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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,861 --> 00:00:14,489 IHWA ATM NEW PRODUCT MODEL NAME: WIAQ8521 2 00:00:15,406 --> 00:00:18,618 The biggest strength of the 2022 model of the automatic teller machine 3 00:00:18,701 --> 00:00:21,662 developed by Ihwa ATM is… 4 00:00:23,081 --> 00:00:24,832 Before I reveal this, 5 00:00:24,916 --> 00:00:30,880 I've prepared some news that could be a bit upsetting for you to see. 6 00:00:30,963 --> 00:00:32,256 All right, now. 7 00:00:33,466 --> 00:00:34,717 This may sting a bit. 8 00:00:36,761 --> 00:00:38,429 You've all seen this article, right? 9 00:00:38,513 --> 00:00:42,016 "A bold bank clerk embezzles a billion won in cash by rigging an ATM." 10 00:00:42,100 --> 00:00:43,684 "Continuous insider embezzlement." 11 00:00:43,768 --> 00:00:45,228 "The discovery of a bank clerk responsible for embezzlement 12 00:00:45,311 --> 00:00:47,146 leads to other banks' hasty inspection." 13 00:00:48,106 --> 00:00:51,150 A total of 42 ATM-related embezzlement cases this year alone. 14 00:00:51,234 --> 00:00:53,820 And the damages go way over ten billion. 15 00:00:53,903 --> 00:00:57,907 The press always says there was negligence in the management and supervision 16 00:00:57,990 --> 00:01:00,159 by the bank and that the system of inspection is the problem. 17 00:01:00,910 --> 00:01:02,703 But you know how this is. 18 00:01:02,787 --> 00:01:06,958 If someone is determined to deceive, how could you not fall for it? 19 00:01:07,041 --> 00:01:11,337 It's impossible to know what goes on in someone's head. 20 00:01:11,421 --> 00:01:13,339 This concern of yours 21 00:01:14,006 --> 00:01:16,592 will be solved by Ihwa ATM. 22 00:01:16,676 --> 00:01:19,804 This is the inside of an ATM, which all bank clerks would know about. 23 00:01:19,887 --> 00:01:23,891 This here is the cassette, where cash is loaded in. 24 00:01:23,975 --> 00:01:26,727 If the employee in charge puts 50 million won in the cassette 25 00:01:26,811 --> 00:01:29,897 but records in the system that he put in 100 million, would we know? 26 00:01:30,481 --> 00:01:32,024 No, we wouldn't. 27 00:01:32,108 --> 00:01:33,818 We'd be fooled without even knowing. 28 00:01:34,569 --> 00:01:37,238 So Ihwa ATM thought, 29 00:01:38,156 --> 00:01:40,074 "Let's create a new cassette." 30 00:01:40,575 --> 00:01:42,994 "Let's make an honest cassette 31 00:01:43,077 --> 00:01:45,913 where lies and tricks won't work." 32 00:01:48,958 --> 00:01:51,586 A bill's weight is always the same. 33 00:01:51,669 --> 00:01:54,881 Unless it's torn or severely damaged, it's similar in weight. 34 00:01:55,506 --> 00:01:58,259 We at Ihwa ATM focused on that. 35 00:01:58,342 --> 00:01:59,427 The employee in charge 36 00:01:59,510 --> 00:02:03,139 not only has to record the amount of the bills that he loads in the system 37 00:02:03,222 --> 00:02:05,892 but also has to enter it here as well. 38 00:02:05,975 --> 00:02:10,104 If the employee in charge enters into the system to load 300 bills… 39 00:02:14,233 --> 00:02:16,027 but only puts in 299, 40 00:02:16,819 --> 00:02:18,321 you see the red light come on? 41 00:02:18,404 --> 00:02:21,782 Also, the cassette door doesn't lock 42 00:02:22,450 --> 00:02:23,910 because this honest cassette 43 00:02:23,993 --> 00:02:26,913 calculates the weight of the bills on its own. 44 00:02:26,996 --> 00:02:31,000 Its accuracy doesn't even allow an error of a single bill. 45 00:02:31,792 --> 00:02:33,669 Isn't this the thing from before? 46 00:02:35,463 --> 00:02:37,423 Is that the strength you mentioned? 47 00:02:37,506 --> 00:02:38,507 Yes, it is. 48 00:02:38,591 --> 00:02:41,677 It is our new product using Ihwa's technology. 49 00:02:41,761 --> 00:02:43,387 Geumgang uses this too. 50 00:02:44,597 --> 00:02:45,514 What? 51 00:02:45,598 --> 00:02:47,808 Leaders' products had it as well. 52 00:02:47,892 --> 00:02:50,436 You know the model that was recalled last year, right? 53 00:02:51,270 --> 00:02:53,856 Their cassettes had this too. 54 00:02:54,941 --> 00:02:58,152 But this technology is ours. 55 00:02:58,236 --> 00:03:01,447 We developed it two years ago and applied for model utility rights too. 56 00:03:01,531 --> 00:03:02,823 Model utility rights? 57 00:03:02,907 --> 00:03:05,034 Oh, like a patent? 58 00:03:05,117 --> 00:03:06,160 That's right. 59 00:03:06,244 --> 00:03:09,830 This isn't technology that can be patented, 60 00:03:09,914 --> 00:03:12,208 but we worked very hard into designing this. 61 00:03:12,291 --> 00:03:14,544 The technology is enough to get model utility rights. 62 00:03:14,627 --> 00:03:16,921 Maybe the technology was leaked then. 63 00:03:17,004 --> 00:03:19,131 You should look into that, Director. 64 00:03:19,215 --> 00:03:22,593 Whether or not another company stole what Ihwa developed. 65 00:03:22,677 --> 00:03:24,011 Well… 66 00:03:24,679 --> 00:03:25,930 Right, yes. 67 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,015 I will check. 68 00:03:28,099 --> 00:03:30,810 To be honest, what matters to the bank is the cost. 69 00:03:31,352 --> 00:03:32,853 Copied or not, 70 00:03:32,937 --> 00:03:36,482 the same technology is also used in Geumgang's ATMs, and they're cheaper. 71 00:03:36,566 --> 00:03:39,485 Then we have no other option but to sign a contract with them. 72 00:03:39,569 --> 00:03:40,528 I see. 73 00:03:40,611 --> 00:03:42,321 We're really not interested in 74 00:03:42,405 --> 00:03:44,532 who originally came up with this technology. 75 00:03:49,078 --> 00:03:52,999 CASE 5 WILD CARD VS TACTICIAN 76 00:03:57,878 --> 00:03:58,921 Hello. 77 00:03:59,005 --> 00:04:00,172 -Hello. -Hello. 78 00:04:03,217 --> 00:04:04,510 Young-woo, did you eat? 79 00:04:05,052 --> 00:04:07,013 Su-yeon, I did. 80 00:04:09,223 --> 00:04:11,225 Did Attorney Kwon tell you? 81 00:04:11,309 --> 00:04:12,310 What? 82 00:04:13,436 --> 00:04:15,187 He didn't tell you yet? 83 00:04:15,271 --> 00:04:16,731 I knew this would happen. 84 00:04:19,775 --> 00:04:21,277 The ATM company case. 85 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,696 You've been assigned to it with Attorney Kwon. 86 00:04:24,905 --> 00:04:25,740 What? 87 00:04:25,823 --> 00:04:28,576 Attorney Jung was about to call and tell you himself, 88 00:04:28,659 --> 00:04:31,787 but Attorney Kwon stopped him and said he would tell you. 89 00:04:32,538 --> 00:04:35,458 I had my suspicions but he really didn't tell you. 90 00:04:41,339 --> 00:04:43,716 My friend who went to Hana University law school 91 00:04:43,799 --> 00:04:47,053 told me Attorney Kwon's nickname. Guess what it was. 92 00:04:48,137 --> 00:04:50,681 -I don't know. -Tactician Kwon Min-woo. 93 00:04:52,266 --> 00:04:53,809 "Tactician Kwon Min-woo"? 94 00:04:53,893 --> 00:04:55,061 Watch out. 95 00:04:55,144 --> 00:04:58,147 It seems like Min-woo's tactics have already begun. 96 00:04:59,148 --> 00:05:00,816 -You think so? -Of course. 97 00:05:00,900 --> 00:05:04,153 Why wouldn't he have told you that you were assigned a case together? 98 00:05:06,697 --> 00:05:07,656 Right. 99 00:05:13,162 --> 00:05:14,080 Come in. 100 00:05:19,293 --> 00:05:20,336 Attorney Kwon. 101 00:05:21,837 --> 00:05:24,590 Why didn't you tell me we were assigned a case together? 102 00:05:24,673 --> 00:05:25,883 I didn't tell you? 103 00:05:25,966 --> 00:05:27,385 No, you didn't tell me. 104 00:05:28,719 --> 00:05:30,554 I'm sorry. It must've slipped my mind. 105 00:05:32,014 --> 00:05:36,477 So there's a lot to look at in terms of the structure of ATMs. 106 00:05:39,438 --> 00:05:42,191 But this is a piece of cake for you, right? 107 00:05:42,274 --> 00:05:43,859 Since you're a genius. 108 00:05:46,112 --> 00:05:47,071 Here. 109 00:05:48,781 --> 00:05:50,282 Right. Did I tell you? 110 00:05:50,366 --> 00:05:52,701 -We're meeting with the client today. -What? 111 00:05:53,411 --> 00:05:54,412 At 2 p.m. 112 00:05:55,037 --> 00:05:56,622 Gosh, it slipped my mind again. 113 00:06:13,180 --> 00:06:15,808 -Did you take a look at the materials? -Well… 114 00:06:15,891 --> 00:06:18,978 Yes. It was a bit difficult because there was a lot of unfamiliar jargon. 115 00:06:19,061 --> 00:06:21,856 -But I managed to go over all of it once. -Okay, let's go in. 116 00:06:24,275 --> 00:06:25,860 -Good afternoon. -Good afternoon. 117 00:06:25,943 --> 00:06:28,320 I'm Attorney Jung Myeong-seok, and I'll be handling your case. 118 00:06:28,404 --> 00:06:30,072 Hello, I'm Woo Young-woo. 119 00:06:30,156 --> 00:06:31,282 Whether it's read straight or flipped, it's-- 120 00:06:31,365 --> 00:06:33,409 She's Woo Young-woo, and I'm Kwon Min-woo. 121 00:06:33,492 --> 00:06:35,953 -Kayak, deed, rotator, noon, racecar. -Right. 122 00:06:36,036 --> 00:06:38,205 I'm Hwang Du-yong, the one who called. 123 00:06:38,289 --> 00:06:40,583 -Nice to meet you. Please, have a seat. -Okay. 124 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:42,710 Before we start, 125 00:06:43,711 --> 00:06:45,713 I brought some mulberry juice. 126 00:06:45,796 --> 00:06:49,341 They're made with farm-fresh mulberries from Yanggu. 127 00:06:49,425 --> 00:06:53,304 It's been a while since I heard of Yanggu. I did my military training in Yanggu. 128 00:06:53,387 --> 00:06:55,556 Really? I also did mine in Yanggu. 129 00:06:55,639 --> 00:06:57,516 Were you at the Baekdusan unit? 130 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:58,434 Baekdusan. 131 00:06:59,852 --> 00:07:00,853 Salute! 132 00:07:01,395 --> 00:07:02,480 Salute. 133 00:07:02,563 --> 00:07:05,483 You must've shoveled a lot of snow. 134 00:07:05,566 --> 00:07:06,776 Guns and knives may rust, 135 00:07:06,859 --> 00:07:08,360 -but the shovel still shines. -But the shovel still shines. 136 00:07:10,321 --> 00:07:12,615 So, where did you serve? 137 00:07:12,698 --> 00:07:15,075 Yes, I was at the Chilseong unit. 138 00:07:16,494 --> 00:07:18,871 United we can! 139 00:07:18,954 --> 00:07:21,791 A top name! You're from one of the famous infantries. 140 00:07:21,874 --> 00:07:24,168 I'm from the Seventh Infantry, where they say only people 141 00:07:24,251 --> 00:07:25,669 who committed the seven sins in their past lives can get in. 142 00:07:25,753 --> 00:07:29,381 Gosh, the Seventh Infantry. I wonder where he served. 143 00:07:30,132 --> 00:07:32,009 You look like you served in the marines. 144 00:07:32,593 --> 00:07:33,719 No. 145 00:07:35,721 --> 00:07:38,015 Well, it's nice to meet everyone. 146 00:07:38,098 --> 00:07:40,434 We should be drinking to this. 147 00:07:40,518 --> 00:07:42,770 Why don't we make a toast with the mulberry juice? 148 00:07:42,853 --> 00:07:44,396 -Should we? -Yes, that sounds good. 149 00:07:47,399 --> 00:07:48,734 I look forward to working with you. 150 00:07:48,818 --> 00:07:50,986 -Same here. -I will do my best! 151 00:07:59,203 --> 00:08:01,539 -It's good, right? -Yes. 152 00:08:02,289 --> 00:08:05,292 Now then, your request 153 00:08:05,876 --> 00:08:09,755 is that you wish to file for a sales ban injunction against Geumgang ATM? 154 00:08:09,839 --> 00:08:13,843 Yes, Ihwa ATM and Geumgang ATM 155 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,221 are Hanbada Law Firm and Taesan Law Firm of the ATM industry. 156 00:08:17,304 --> 00:08:19,807 Neck and neck, destined to be rivals? 157 00:08:19,890 --> 00:08:23,227 Yes, it's so close that you can't really pick one. 158 00:08:23,310 --> 00:08:24,436 Ocean or mountain? 159 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,980 Jjajangmyeon or jjamppong? 160 00:08:26,063 --> 00:08:27,273 To pour the sauce or dip in the sauce? 161 00:08:27,356 --> 00:08:29,024 Blue whales or humpback whales? 162 00:08:29,108 --> 00:08:30,276 What? 163 00:08:32,653 --> 00:08:36,907 Anyway, it's like that for Ihwa and Geumgang. 164 00:08:36,991 --> 00:08:39,994 And there was Leaders ATM, a new player in the industry, 165 00:08:40,077 --> 00:08:42,705 but they went out of business last year. 166 00:08:42,788 --> 00:08:44,415 It's always fun to hear these kinds of stories. 167 00:08:44,498 --> 00:08:45,332 Yes. 168 00:08:45,416 --> 00:08:49,920 Gosh, I hope the Geumgang people learn a lesson this time. 169 00:08:50,004 --> 00:08:53,173 They shouldn't be sneaking around, 170 00:08:53,257 --> 00:08:57,595 taking the technology that we worked really hard to develop. 171 00:08:57,678 --> 00:09:00,806 They've done this a few times already. Including this cassette. 172 00:09:00,890 --> 00:09:02,933 You must be so upset. 173 00:09:03,601 --> 00:09:04,810 What's a cassette? 174 00:09:05,644 --> 00:09:07,438 Oh, well… 175 00:09:11,233 --> 00:09:12,359 The cassette is… 176 00:09:12,443 --> 00:09:13,611 I can explain what it is. 177 00:09:13,694 --> 00:09:16,780 It's the container where cash is put with a handle on the front. 178 00:09:16,864 --> 00:09:19,366 I did a little homework before we came here to meet you. 179 00:09:20,576 --> 00:09:22,620 Attorney Kwon. 180 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,663 Attorney Kwon Min-woo. 181 00:09:32,004 --> 00:09:34,798 Anyway, the cassette was developed by us 182 00:09:34,882 --> 00:09:36,884 and we applied for its model utility rights. 183 00:09:36,967 --> 00:09:41,096 So you've applied for it, but it hasn't been registered yet? 184 00:09:41,180 --> 00:09:45,100 No, there were a lot of procedures to go through even after the application. 185 00:09:45,184 --> 00:09:47,937 There wasn't much material on the application for the rights. 186 00:09:48,020 --> 00:09:49,438 Could you perhaps give us more? 187 00:09:49,521 --> 00:09:52,316 Of course. I'll send you everything I have. 188 00:09:52,399 --> 00:09:55,444 Then please send them to the number on my business card. 189 00:09:55,527 --> 00:09:56,820 Yes, I will. 190 00:09:57,696 --> 00:10:03,535 I came in today thinking it was going to be a brief introduction. 191 00:10:03,619 --> 00:10:04,912 Would it be okay if we end things here for now? 192 00:10:04,995 --> 00:10:06,330 Yes, of course. 193 00:10:06,413 --> 00:10:07,748 All right. 194 00:10:08,791 --> 00:10:10,751 I look forward to working with you. 195 00:10:10,834 --> 00:10:12,711 Thank you for the juice. 196 00:10:12,795 --> 00:10:13,963 It was nice to meet you. 197 00:10:14,755 --> 00:10:15,798 Take care. 198 00:10:15,881 --> 00:10:17,257 -Yes, thank you. -Sure. 199 00:10:19,301 --> 00:10:20,844 As I mentioned before, 200 00:10:20,928 --> 00:10:25,516 this case will be led by the two of you, Attorney Woo and Attorney Kwon. 201 00:10:25,599 --> 00:10:27,226 I'll just be mentoring on the side. 202 00:10:27,309 --> 00:10:28,560 -Got it. -Got it. 203 00:10:28,644 --> 00:10:30,604 I know there are a lot of unfamiliar terms 204 00:10:30,688 --> 00:10:32,815 but review the materials thoroughly. 205 00:10:32,898 --> 00:10:35,359 The model utility rights for the cassette is key to this case. 206 00:10:35,442 --> 00:10:37,611 Shouldn't you be aware of what a cassette is? 207 00:10:38,946 --> 00:10:40,114 Well… 208 00:10:41,949 --> 00:10:44,827 -Yes, I should. -Make sure this doesn't happen again. 209 00:10:46,704 --> 00:10:47,955 -All right. -Right. 210 00:10:50,165 --> 00:10:51,166 Here you go. 211 00:10:52,209 --> 00:10:53,711 -I'll get going. -Okay. 212 00:11:01,719 --> 00:11:04,638 I had a hard time because I didn't get to see the case materials beforehand. 213 00:11:04,722 --> 00:11:07,224 Please share them with me without forgetting next time. 214 00:11:07,307 --> 00:11:09,184 Well, no. 215 00:11:10,686 --> 00:11:11,562 What? 216 00:11:11,645 --> 00:11:14,481 Why should I share materials with my competition? 217 00:11:15,232 --> 00:11:19,403 It's not just Hanbada and Taesan, Ihwa and Geumgang that are competing. 218 00:11:19,486 --> 00:11:20,446 We're competing too. 219 00:11:21,071 --> 00:11:23,240 You and I are both here on a one-year contract. 220 00:11:23,323 --> 00:11:25,743 And we need good performance reviews to get our contracts renewed. 221 00:11:25,826 --> 00:11:30,205 Every single action, every single case. They'll all be evaluated. 222 00:11:31,290 --> 00:11:34,960 But I guess you're not really interested in getting your contract renewed, right? 223 00:11:36,462 --> 00:11:38,547 If you were, you wouldn't have been absent without notice like that. 224 00:11:39,256 --> 00:11:40,257 That's… 225 00:11:42,384 --> 00:11:44,678 I'm interested in getting my contract renewed too. 226 00:11:46,847 --> 00:11:48,682 Then we're competitors. 227 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,435 Though it seems as if I'm winning again. 228 00:11:52,019 --> 00:11:52,853 What? 229 00:11:55,147 --> 00:11:56,315 Over there. 230 00:11:57,649 --> 00:12:01,361 It seems like you won't be receiving the next batch of materials either. 231 00:12:18,253 --> 00:12:19,379 Obligor's counselor. 232 00:12:19,463 --> 00:12:21,465 You submitted additional material today. 233 00:12:22,132 --> 00:12:23,217 Yes, Your Honor. 234 00:12:23,842 --> 00:12:25,844 They are materials to substantiate that Ihwa ATM's application 235 00:12:25,928 --> 00:12:28,347 for model utility rights itself is false in action. 236 00:12:29,264 --> 00:12:30,933 Could you please look at the screen? 237 00:12:33,644 --> 00:12:34,686 EVIDENCE TO SUBSTANTIATE IHWA ATM'S CLAIMS AS FALSE 238 00:12:34,770 --> 00:12:36,188 In October 2020, 239 00:12:36,271 --> 00:12:41,109 Ihwa ATM applied for model utility rights for a security device for the cassettes 240 00:12:41,193 --> 00:12:42,903 in automatic teller machines. 241 00:12:42,986 --> 00:12:44,321 But this technology 242 00:12:44,988 --> 00:12:46,240 was plagiarized. 243 00:12:47,074 --> 00:12:49,201 In the United States, an exhibition called 244 00:12:49,284 --> 00:12:52,788 the Chicago International Engineering Fair is held every April. 245 00:12:52,871 --> 00:12:55,332 A lot of technology regarding ATMs are introduced there. 246 00:12:55,415 --> 00:12:58,377 So it's also well-known among ATM companies in Korea. 247 00:12:58,961 --> 00:12:59,878 Your Honor. 248 00:13:00,379 --> 00:13:02,923 Please compare the two designs shown on the screen. 249 00:13:03,590 --> 00:13:07,928 One was presented by an American company at the exhibition back in 2019. 250 00:13:08,011 --> 00:13:09,471 And the other is the one 251 00:13:09,555 --> 00:13:13,308 that Ihwa ATM is arguing to have developed on their own in 2020. 252 00:13:15,060 --> 00:13:18,939 The American company made this technology public as open-source technology. 253 00:13:19,439 --> 00:13:23,527 They did it so that anyone can freely use and modify it without any restrictions. 254 00:13:23,610 --> 00:13:25,654 However, Ihwa ATM 255 00:13:25,737 --> 00:13:29,283 took this technology and pretended that they developed it themselves, 256 00:13:29,366 --> 00:13:32,870 and applied for its model utility rights so that other companies can't use it. 257 00:13:32,953 --> 00:13:36,707 Well, they did not take the American company's design as is. 258 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,044 The two designs look similar, but there is a clear difference. 259 00:13:41,128 --> 00:13:44,840 The security device on Ihwa ATM's cassette has a much more segmented sensor 260 00:13:44,923 --> 00:13:47,926 for measuring the weight of the bills than the American company's. 261 00:13:48,010 --> 00:13:50,345 They didn't copy the technology made public as is, 262 00:13:50,429 --> 00:13:52,681 but they developed it by adding new technology. 263 00:13:52,764 --> 00:13:55,225 So the grounds to apply for model utility rights may… 264 00:13:55,893 --> 00:13:57,436 not be enough. 265 00:14:00,147 --> 00:14:01,565 But we do have grounds. 266 00:14:02,858 --> 00:14:04,484 Gosh, Attorney. 267 00:14:04,568 --> 00:14:07,154 That level of segmentation is common. 268 00:14:07,654 --> 00:14:11,158 Unlike the United States, Korean bills vary in size, 269 00:14:11,241 --> 00:14:13,619 whether it's ten thousand won, or fifty thousand won. 270 00:14:13,702 --> 00:14:15,245 That's why segmentation is done. 271 00:14:15,871 --> 00:14:19,082 If they applied for the model utility rights because of that, 272 00:14:19,166 --> 00:14:21,126 they really have no conscience! 273 00:14:21,210 --> 00:14:23,879 The key technology was developed by the American company! 274 00:14:23,962 --> 00:14:25,547 What do you mean by no conscience? 275 00:14:30,594 --> 00:14:32,846 No one in our company, including myself, 276 00:14:32,930 --> 00:14:35,515 has ever attended the exhibition in Chicago. 277 00:14:35,599 --> 00:14:38,769 This is the first time I'm finding out about something like that. 278 00:14:39,853 --> 00:14:44,191 Geumgang ATM first made their cassette security device in 2021. 279 00:14:44,274 --> 00:14:48,612 Meanwhile, Ihwa ATM already applied for model utility rights back in 2020. 280 00:14:48,695 --> 00:14:49,780 The obligor claims 281 00:14:49,863 --> 00:14:53,367 they used the open-source technology of the American company, but in truth, 282 00:14:53,450 --> 00:14:55,327 didn't they copy Ihwa's technology? 283 00:14:55,410 --> 00:14:59,206 Listen. If you're going to argue when it was produced, 284 00:14:59,289 --> 00:15:00,874 Leaders is the original. 285 00:15:01,416 --> 00:15:05,295 Leaders ATM made theirs as soon as the exhibition was over. 286 00:15:05,379 --> 00:15:07,047 All the way back in 2019! 287 00:15:07,881 --> 00:15:11,760 If you look at Leaders' product, it looks exactly like Ihwa's! 288 00:15:12,469 --> 00:15:13,387 Is that so? 289 00:15:13,929 --> 00:15:16,932 Can you substantiate what you just stated? 290 00:15:17,641 --> 00:15:18,809 Your Honor, 291 00:15:18,892 --> 00:15:21,478 we also attempted to find evidence, 292 00:15:21,561 --> 00:15:24,481 but unfortunately, Leaders ATM went out of business last year. 293 00:15:25,107 --> 00:15:28,318 They went out of business after their products were recalled due to a defect, 294 00:15:28,402 --> 00:15:30,445 so there aren't any Leaders products left in the market. 295 00:15:35,409 --> 00:15:39,288 It's difficult to make a ruling on whether this technology 296 00:15:39,955 --> 00:15:44,167 was solely developed by Ihwa ATM or if it's a slight variation of technology 297 00:15:44,835 --> 00:15:48,046 that was already released based on these materials alone. 298 00:15:48,130 --> 00:15:51,925 Since the KIPO's evaluation result for the model utility rights hasn't come out, 299 00:15:52,009 --> 00:15:53,218 it's even more difficult. 300 00:15:53,885 --> 00:15:56,263 Is there any other material to present? 301 00:15:56,346 --> 00:15:58,056 Your Honor. 302 00:15:58,140 --> 00:16:00,142 In order to substantiate the novelty 303 00:16:00,225 --> 00:16:01,935 of the model utility rights application by Ihwa ATM, 304 00:16:02,019 --> 00:16:04,646 we also need some time to put together the materials. 305 00:16:05,314 --> 00:16:06,189 Yes, I agree. 306 00:16:06,898 --> 00:16:09,109 Then we'll set the date for the next questioning. 307 00:16:09,192 --> 00:16:10,319 The court is adjourned. 308 00:16:10,902 --> 00:16:12,321 All rise. 309 00:16:30,756 --> 00:16:32,382 -Good work. -Of course. 310 00:16:32,466 --> 00:16:34,676 Is Geumgang ATM's claim true? 311 00:16:35,260 --> 00:16:36,094 What? 312 00:16:42,684 --> 00:16:44,478 I'm going to go answer this call. 313 00:16:44,561 --> 00:16:45,479 Okay. 314 00:16:48,231 --> 00:16:50,442 I have other plans, so I'm going to head out. 315 00:16:50,525 --> 00:16:52,486 -Wrap things up here. -All right. 316 00:16:53,111 --> 00:16:55,155 I'm headed out as well. I have a lot to do. 317 00:16:55,238 --> 00:16:56,239 What? 318 00:16:58,116 --> 00:17:00,994 Shouldn't we check the facts with the client? 319 00:17:01,078 --> 00:17:03,955 We can only check the facts if he tells us the truth. 320 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:09,336 So do you think Mr. Hwang Du-yong is lying? 321 00:17:09,419 --> 00:17:10,504 I'm not sure. 322 00:17:10,587 --> 00:17:12,714 It could be that Geumgang is committing fraud. 323 00:17:12,798 --> 00:17:14,716 Isn't everyone in business like that? 324 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,761 The direction of the defense depends on whether or not Ihwa ATM 325 00:17:17,844 --> 00:17:21,515 developed the technology themselves. We have to find out what the facts are. 326 00:17:22,432 --> 00:17:24,601 Then you go find out. 327 00:17:25,227 --> 00:17:26,895 I'll do my own thing. 328 00:17:26,978 --> 00:17:32,150 But don't interrogate the client about what the facts are. 329 00:17:32,234 --> 00:17:33,360 You'll get me fired too. 330 00:17:33,944 --> 00:17:34,778 What? 331 00:17:36,405 --> 00:17:38,615 You know that we're being employed by the client, right? 332 00:17:38,698 --> 00:17:39,699 The customer is king. 333 00:17:39,783 --> 00:17:43,703 Come to think of it, you never handle cases quietly. 334 00:17:43,787 --> 00:17:44,663 Right. 335 00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:47,124 That time you were taken off a case 336 00:17:47,207 --> 00:17:49,835 because you upset the Chairman of Sangjeong Pharmaceutical. 337 00:17:49,918 --> 00:17:51,920 It's not like you're Wild Card Woo Young-woo. 338 00:17:52,963 --> 00:17:54,381 Wild… 339 00:17:55,090 --> 00:17:56,716 "Wild Card Woo Young-woo"? 340 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:57,717 Yes. 341 00:17:58,260 --> 00:17:59,261 You… 342 00:17:59,344 --> 00:18:01,138 You Tactician Kwon Min-woo! 343 00:18:05,809 --> 00:18:08,770 What? 344 00:18:08,854 --> 00:18:09,980 "Tactician"? 345 00:18:16,820 --> 00:18:18,363 Have you no conscience? 346 00:18:18,947 --> 00:18:21,491 I'm saying we never went there! 347 00:18:21,575 --> 00:18:22,993 Stop with the lying! 348 00:18:23,785 --> 00:18:27,956 What ATM company in Korea has never gone to the Chicago exhibition? 349 00:18:28,039 --> 00:18:30,709 Every time new technology was presented in Chicago, everyone copied it! 350 00:18:30,792 --> 00:18:33,170 That may be true for Geumgang, but not Ihwa! 351 00:18:33,253 --> 00:18:35,755 The employees on our Development Team all came together 352 00:18:35,839 --> 00:18:37,924 and toiled for years to make it. 353 00:18:38,008 --> 00:18:39,926 Is it not enough that you stole this technology? 354 00:18:40,010 --> 00:18:41,887 Why are you trying to swipe other people's efforts too? 355 00:18:41,970 --> 00:18:43,805 Effort? What effort? 356 00:18:43,889 --> 00:18:45,265 -An effort to come up with a dirty trick -Look. 357 00:18:45,348 --> 00:18:47,350 -to ruin other companies? -Can you tell who's lying? 358 00:18:47,434 --> 00:18:50,812 Why do you keep speaking disrespectfully to me, old man? 359 00:18:50,896 --> 00:18:53,523 -You can't speak like that to people! -What? 360 00:18:53,607 --> 00:18:55,108 "Old man"? 361 00:18:55,192 --> 00:18:58,487 That's the nicest thing I could call you. Should I say what I'm thinking? 362 00:18:58,570 --> 00:19:00,489 -Go ahead! -You can't, can you? 363 00:19:00,989 --> 00:19:02,491 So why bother asking? 364 00:19:02,574 --> 00:19:06,244 -You can't even tell who's lying. -Do you think you can keep insisting? 365 00:19:06,328 --> 00:19:10,707 Let me tell you this. We don't do anything that's this lousy like you. 366 00:19:10,790 --> 00:19:11,875 "Lousy"? 367 00:19:11,958 --> 00:19:14,586 We came all this way by working hard, 368 00:19:14,669 --> 00:19:17,464 and we're claiming the rights that should be rightfully ours. 369 00:19:17,547 --> 00:19:21,968 So Geumgang should stop trying to get a free ride on other people's hard work. 370 00:19:24,971 --> 00:19:27,390 Cham, cham, cham. 371 00:19:34,564 --> 00:19:35,774 Cham, cham, cham! 372 00:19:35,857 --> 00:19:36,858 Gosh. 373 00:19:38,693 --> 00:19:40,278 Cham, cham, cham! 374 00:19:42,531 --> 00:19:43,532 Cham, cham, cham! 375 00:19:45,450 --> 00:19:48,537 Hey! How come you're so good at this? You should enter a competition! 376 00:19:48,620 --> 00:19:50,789 But is there really a connection between being good at this game 377 00:19:50,872 --> 00:19:53,833 and differentiating between true and false? 378 00:19:54,417 --> 00:19:55,252 Hey. 379 00:19:55,752 --> 00:19:57,379 Are you doubting my method? 380 00:19:58,004 --> 00:19:59,172 What do those books say? 381 00:19:59,714 --> 00:20:01,216 THE DEFINITIVE BOOK OF BODY LANGUAGE DIGGING UP LIES 382 00:20:01,299 --> 00:20:02,133 Well… 383 00:20:02,717 --> 00:20:06,721 If a person is lying, their body releases a chemical called catecholamine. 384 00:20:06,805 --> 00:20:08,598 And it causes the tissues inside the nose to swell up. 385 00:20:08,682 --> 00:20:11,142 Pinocchio was actually a fairy tale based on facts. 386 00:20:11,226 --> 00:20:13,436 And if a person lies, their blood pressure rises 387 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,023 and it stimulates the nerve tissue at the tip of the nose, making it feel itchy. 388 00:20:18,733 --> 00:20:21,069 Hearing that makes my nose really itchy right now. 389 00:20:22,612 --> 00:20:24,781 Was this just now true or false? 390 00:20:27,409 --> 00:20:29,369 -What? -Hey. 391 00:20:29,452 --> 00:20:32,581 What kind of person's nose grows bigger and becomes itchy just because they lied? 392 00:20:32,664 --> 00:20:34,165 I've never seen anyone like that. 393 00:20:35,375 --> 00:20:38,795 Hey, you don't need any of this. Just remember Cham Cham Cham. 394 00:20:39,754 --> 00:20:42,674 Look straight into the other person's eyes. 395 00:20:43,383 --> 00:20:46,219 Looking straight into the other person's eyes 396 00:20:46,303 --> 00:20:49,264 is the most difficult thing in the world for someone with autism. 397 00:20:50,265 --> 00:20:51,766 That's right. 398 00:20:52,350 --> 00:20:56,187 Then look between their eyebrows. The area of truth. 399 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,487 Then you'll get a feeling. 400 00:21:05,113 --> 00:21:11,244 If what they're saying is true, you'll get the feeling of it being true. 401 00:21:11,328 --> 00:21:16,499 If they're lying, you'll get the feeling of it being a lie. 402 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:19,919 Got it? 403 00:21:21,838 --> 00:21:23,548 -Yes. -Now! 404 00:21:23,632 --> 00:21:26,885 I'll guess first. Say anything that comes to mind. 405 00:21:30,639 --> 00:21:32,974 I don't want to lose against Attorney Kwon Min-woo. 406 00:21:33,058 --> 00:21:34,059 Kwon Min-woo? 407 00:21:34,726 --> 00:21:36,978 -The good-looking guy? -What? 408 00:21:37,687 --> 00:21:39,856 No, not Lee Jun-ho. Kwon Min-woo. 409 00:21:39,939 --> 00:21:43,151 Yes, not Lee Jun-ho. Kwon Min-woo. The good-looking guy. 410 00:21:45,904 --> 00:21:47,405 What about Min-woo? 411 00:21:47,489 --> 00:21:51,284 Well, I'm working on this case with him. 412 00:21:53,953 --> 00:21:55,288 Attorney Kwon… 413 00:21:55,372 --> 00:21:56,998 Attorney Kwon? 414 00:21:59,542 --> 00:22:00,502 is a jerk. 415 00:22:02,670 --> 00:22:03,505 That's true. 416 00:22:04,964 --> 00:22:07,217 You really want to beat Min-woo right now. 417 00:22:07,801 --> 00:22:08,968 Yes, I do. 418 00:22:09,886 --> 00:22:11,763 Okay, it's your turn now. 419 00:22:12,931 --> 00:22:15,016 Focus, in the spirit of Cham Cham Cham. 420 00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:17,310 "Focus, in the spirit of Cham Cham Cham." 421 00:22:17,394 --> 00:22:18,520 Yes, are you ready? 422 00:22:18,603 --> 00:22:19,604 Yes. 423 00:22:23,024 --> 00:22:24,150 Lee Jun-ho 424 00:22:24,943 --> 00:22:26,027 likes… 425 00:22:28,905 --> 00:22:29,739 Woo Young-woo. 426 00:22:33,451 --> 00:22:35,245 What is that? 427 00:22:35,328 --> 00:22:38,081 You're supposed to guess. I know the answer. 428 00:22:38,164 --> 00:22:39,958 How would you know that? 429 00:22:41,793 --> 00:22:44,754 Did you guys go to Nakjo Village or not? 430 00:22:45,964 --> 00:22:47,090 Nakjo Village? 431 00:22:48,007 --> 00:22:49,259 We did. 432 00:22:49,926 --> 00:22:51,094 Now. 433 00:22:51,177 --> 00:22:53,555 Lee Jun-ho likes 434 00:22:54,973 --> 00:22:55,807 Woo Young-woo. 435 00:22:57,392 --> 00:22:58,393 True… 436 00:23:00,019 --> 00:23:01,020 or false? 437 00:23:20,165 --> 00:23:22,125 -Give me one second. -Okay. 438 00:23:26,171 --> 00:23:27,422 Yes, Attorney Jang. 439 00:23:28,673 --> 00:23:31,301 No. I was just playing basketball. 440 00:23:33,970 --> 00:23:35,096 Attorney Woo? 441 00:23:35,847 --> 00:23:36,973 Yes. I know. 442 00:23:37,682 --> 00:23:39,517 We're on this case together. 443 00:23:39,601 --> 00:23:43,813 You know Attorney Woo has a disability, I mean, a handicap. 444 00:23:44,397 --> 00:23:47,650 Yes, so there's no choice but for me to shoulder certain things. 445 00:23:47,734 --> 00:23:49,194 No, it's no trouble. 446 00:23:49,944 --> 00:23:52,447 There are people who make time to go do volunteer work. 447 00:23:52,530 --> 00:23:55,533 This is the least I could do. Isn't it? 448 00:23:57,035 --> 00:23:58,912 Yes. All right. 449 00:23:58,995 --> 00:24:00,580 Let's get dinner together soon. 450 00:24:01,289 --> 00:24:02,999 Okay, goodbye. Salute. 451 00:24:09,589 --> 00:24:10,798 Hey, let's go. 452 00:24:10,882 --> 00:24:12,759 Hey, is it my turn? Your turn? 453 00:24:14,093 --> 00:24:15,678 Okay, you first? 454 00:24:15,762 --> 00:24:17,096 Okay. 455 00:24:21,184 --> 00:24:22,393 Jeez. 456 00:24:41,287 --> 00:24:42,622 What's wrong with you? 457 00:24:42,705 --> 00:24:43,998 Hey! 458 00:24:44,082 --> 00:24:46,209 Come on, let's play fair. 459 00:24:46,292 --> 00:24:48,086 What? Play fair? 460 00:24:50,338 --> 00:24:51,839 You play fair yourself. 461 00:24:54,092 --> 00:24:56,761 Gosh, what is he mad about? He was winning. 462 00:24:56,844 --> 00:24:57,845 It hurts. 463 00:24:58,555 --> 00:25:00,807 -Here's your food. -Thank you. 464 00:25:00,890 --> 00:25:02,392 -Of course, enjoy. -Excuse me, 465 00:25:02,475 --> 00:25:03,977 I still haven't gotten the cheese gimbap. 466 00:25:04,060 --> 00:25:06,354 Coming right up. Just a moment, please. 467 00:25:08,606 --> 00:25:09,691 Welcome. 468 00:25:11,651 --> 00:25:15,780 What kind of gimbap costs 3,500 and 4,000 won? 469 00:25:15,863 --> 00:25:17,323 It's so expensive! 470 00:25:17,407 --> 00:25:20,535 That's how the prices are these days. The cost of ingredients has gone up. 471 00:25:20,618 --> 00:25:21,953 That doesn't matter. 472 00:25:22,036 --> 00:25:24,080 Gimbap is still gimbap. 473 00:25:24,163 --> 00:25:25,540 Goodness, it's so expensive! 474 00:25:27,250 --> 00:25:29,669 -Hurry and clear this table for me. -Right. 475 00:25:29,752 --> 00:25:31,337 -Thank you for the food. -Goodbye. 476 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,771 Did you just think that woman is a rude customer? 477 00:25:51,983 --> 00:25:53,860 -What? -What did she say? 478 00:25:54,986 --> 00:25:58,448 Excuse me. Did you just say I'm a rude customer? 479 00:25:59,532 --> 00:26:01,993 Answer me. Then I'll guess if it's true-- 480 00:26:02,076 --> 00:26:04,287 I said the gimbap is expensive because it is! 481 00:26:04,370 --> 00:26:05,413 How dare you call me a rude customer! 482 00:26:05,496 --> 00:26:07,040 You ruined my morning. 483 00:26:07,123 --> 00:26:09,417 Gosh, I'm sorry. 484 00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:11,419 Who is she? Is she your daughter? 485 00:26:11,502 --> 00:26:13,921 Did you just use your daughter to talk bad about a customer? 486 00:26:14,005 --> 00:26:15,757 Gosh. 487 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,675 She's not my daughter. 488 00:26:21,429 --> 00:26:23,556 You should leave now, Ma'am. 489 00:26:25,183 --> 00:26:26,351 Okay? 490 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,561 What? 491 00:26:38,404 --> 00:26:39,530 Yes, sir. 492 00:26:41,658 --> 00:26:42,909 Goodbye. 493 00:26:49,624 --> 00:26:52,710 There used to be someone on my team who was a former detective. 494 00:26:52,794 --> 00:26:54,253 And he would always say, 495 00:26:54,837 --> 00:26:59,467 "The most honest part of the human body are the legs and then the hands." 496 00:26:59,550 --> 00:27:01,761 The legs and then 497 00:27:02,553 --> 00:27:04,055 -the hands? -Yes. 498 00:27:04,138 --> 00:27:05,723 Apparently, the further things are from the head, 499 00:27:05,807 --> 00:27:07,433 the more difficult it is to control completely. 500 00:27:07,517 --> 00:27:09,686 You can fake a facial expression, 501 00:27:09,769 --> 00:27:13,272 but it's hard to control shaky legs or sweaty palms. 502 00:27:14,148 --> 00:27:15,191 And what else? 503 00:27:15,692 --> 00:27:18,528 If someone is sitting down like they're ready to bolt out of the room 504 00:27:19,278 --> 00:27:23,533 or has their arms stuck to their body like this as if they're tied to the chair. 505 00:27:23,616 --> 00:27:28,037 Or if they keep stroking their thighs with their hands. 506 00:27:28,121 --> 00:27:30,915 He said those things could be signs of lying. 507 00:27:32,125 --> 00:27:34,961 Geu-ra-mi told me to look between the eyebrows. 508 00:27:35,044 --> 00:27:39,090 The former detective said the legs and hands are the most important. 509 00:27:39,173 --> 00:27:41,718 Ultimately, do I have to look at the entire body? 510 00:27:41,801 --> 00:27:43,302 This is quite difficult. 511 00:27:43,386 --> 00:27:45,430 Why don't you just have a casual conversation? 512 00:27:45,513 --> 00:27:46,931 Trust your instincts. 513 00:27:47,932 --> 00:27:49,684 My instincts suck. 514 00:27:50,351 --> 00:27:54,689 People with autism are easily fooled and are not able to lie. 515 00:27:54,772 --> 00:27:58,151 If there was a competition to be fooled, 516 00:27:58,234 --> 00:27:59,777 a person with autism would win. 517 00:28:00,403 --> 00:28:01,362 Why is that? 518 00:28:02,447 --> 00:28:04,991 Is it because people with autism are innocent? 519 00:28:05,575 --> 00:28:06,576 Well… 520 00:28:07,744 --> 00:28:09,203 It's more like 521 00:28:09,829 --> 00:28:13,374 people live in a world that is made up of me and you 522 00:28:13,458 --> 00:28:17,837 but people with autism are more used to living in a world made up of only me. 523 00:28:18,796 --> 00:28:22,008 People can think differently from me 524 00:28:23,426 --> 00:28:26,262 or have different intentions and trick me. 525 00:28:26,345 --> 00:28:29,515 I understand this with my head, but I keep forgetting. 526 00:28:29,599 --> 00:28:33,936 I have to make a conscious effort at all times to not be fooled by lies. 527 00:28:41,611 --> 00:28:43,279 These stories help. 528 00:28:45,615 --> 00:28:46,908 They do? 529 00:28:46,991 --> 00:28:47,867 Yes. 530 00:28:48,618 --> 00:28:51,621 They help me understand you. 531 00:29:05,718 --> 00:29:07,470 We're here to meet Director Hwang Du-yong of the Sales Team. 532 00:29:07,553 --> 00:29:09,180 Yes. Go this way. 533 00:29:09,263 --> 00:29:10,807 -Thank you. -Sure. 534 00:29:22,110 --> 00:29:23,402 Attorney Woo. 535 00:29:23,486 --> 00:29:24,737 Should we practice? 536 00:29:25,279 --> 00:29:27,824 From now on, I'm Director Hwang Du-yong. 537 00:29:28,491 --> 00:29:31,744 If you ask me a question, I'll answer. 538 00:29:31,828 --> 00:29:33,996 Then you guess if it's true or not. 539 00:29:41,546 --> 00:29:44,507 Okay, I'll try. In the spirit of Cham Cham Cham. 540 00:29:45,091 --> 00:29:46,467 Cham Cham Cham? 541 00:29:53,641 --> 00:29:54,684 Lee Jun-ho 542 00:29:55,476 --> 00:29:56,936 likes Woo Young-woo. 543 00:29:57,562 --> 00:29:58,521 Is this true? 544 00:30:15,204 --> 00:30:16,247 That… 545 00:30:24,463 --> 00:30:27,008 is too hard of a question 546 00:30:27,633 --> 00:30:29,510 for Director Hwang Du-yong to answer. 547 00:30:30,845 --> 00:30:31,888 Right. 548 00:30:32,722 --> 00:30:33,764 Yes. 549 00:30:34,849 --> 00:30:36,434 It was a practice question. 550 00:30:47,028 --> 00:30:48,112 Excuse me. 551 00:30:49,614 --> 00:30:51,908 -Are you from Leaders? -Yes. 552 00:30:51,991 --> 00:30:53,367 Thank you for coming. 553 00:30:53,451 --> 00:30:55,453 I'm Kwon Min-woo, the person who called you. 554 00:30:55,536 --> 00:30:57,663 -Nice to meet you. -Please have a seat. 555 00:30:58,497 --> 00:31:00,499 How did you get my number? 556 00:31:00,583 --> 00:31:04,503 I asked around and was finally able to get a hold of your number. 557 00:31:04,587 --> 00:31:05,463 Right. 558 00:31:05,546 --> 00:31:08,507 It was very difficult to get a hold of any numbers. 559 00:31:09,508 --> 00:31:11,469 Could you tell me why you wanted to see me? 560 00:31:11,552 --> 00:31:14,222 Yes. You know what a cassette security device is, right? 561 00:31:15,932 --> 00:31:17,350 Yes. I do. 562 00:31:18,142 --> 00:31:20,061 That must be Ihwa's? 563 00:31:20,144 --> 00:31:23,856 Yes. And I'm aware that Leaders had made a similar cassette. 564 00:31:25,066 --> 00:31:29,362 More like the same. 565 00:31:29,445 --> 00:31:30,905 It's the same cassette. 566 00:31:30,988 --> 00:31:33,032 Was that made with the open-source technology 567 00:31:33,115 --> 00:31:34,617 from the 2019 Chicago exhibition? 568 00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:35,534 Yes. 569 00:31:37,578 --> 00:31:41,582 We really worked hard back then to be number one in the industry. 570 00:31:42,166 --> 00:31:44,335 The Chicago exhibition was held in April, 571 00:31:44,418 --> 00:31:47,964 and we were already trying to manufacture the product in October of that year. 572 00:31:48,047 --> 00:31:50,299 We shouldn't have overdone it like that. 573 00:31:50,383 --> 00:31:51,467 I regret it. 574 00:31:52,343 --> 00:31:53,219 Why is that? 575 00:31:53,302 --> 00:31:54,845 We pushed ourselves too hard. 576 00:31:54,929 --> 00:31:57,473 We stayed up every night to keep the factory running, 577 00:31:57,556 --> 00:31:59,934 but we made a mistake on an important part. 578 00:32:00,017 --> 00:32:02,770 There was an error with the bill recognition. 579 00:32:02,853 --> 00:32:04,230 Because of that, 580 00:32:04,313 --> 00:32:08,567 the new product that we worked so hard to prepare was all refunded, and eventually, 581 00:32:09,568 --> 00:32:10,861 the company went under. 582 00:32:12,071 --> 00:32:15,366 So are there no Leaders products left in the market at all? 583 00:32:15,449 --> 00:32:17,785 Well, they were all disposed of. 584 00:32:18,452 --> 00:32:21,289 Now, they don't exist in the world. 585 00:32:22,999 --> 00:32:25,334 For some reason, that makes me sad. 586 00:32:26,377 --> 00:32:28,170 We really worked hard to make it. 587 00:32:37,096 --> 00:32:38,848 Director Hwang's office is this way. 588 00:32:38,931 --> 00:32:40,433 Right. Thank you. 589 00:32:40,516 --> 00:32:42,268 Between the eyebrows, legs, and hands. 590 00:32:42,852 --> 00:32:44,603 Between the eyebrows, legs, and hands. 591 00:32:45,313 --> 00:32:47,064 Between the eyebrows, legs, and hands. 592 00:32:53,904 --> 00:32:55,948 -Your guests are here. -Right. 593 00:33:06,459 --> 00:33:07,793 Between the eyebrows, 594 00:33:08,627 --> 00:33:09,503 leg, 595 00:33:10,171 --> 00:33:11,005 and hand… 596 00:33:11,797 --> 00:33:12,798 They're injured. 597 00:33:12,882 --> 00:33:14,258 I was in a car accident. 598 00:33:15,259 --> 00:33:17,386 It seems like you're injured quite badly. 599 00:33:17,470 --> 00:33:18,929 Are you sure you should be working like this? 600 00:33:19,555 --> 00:33:20,681 Yes, I'm fine. 601 00:33:21,307 --> 00:33:24,769 Attorney Woo and an employee from Hanbada came all this way. 602 00:33:24,852 --> 00:33:26,729 How could I stay in bed at the hospital? 603 00:33:26,812 --> 00:33:29,774 Between the eyebrows, leg, and hand… 604 00:33:29,857 --> 00:33:32,401 Things must be hard for you because you got hurt. 605 00:33:32,485 --> 00:33:33,736 Yes, well. 606 00:33:34,487 --> 00:33:36,989 You said you had questions about product development? 607 00:33:37,573 --> 00:33:38,616 As you can see, I'm injured, 608 00:33:38,699 --> 00:33:40,659 and since I'm on the sales team, I don't really know much. 609 00:33:40,743 --> 00:33:42,870 Let me take you to meet the person in charge. 610 00:33:43,788 --> 00:33:45,039 Follow me. 611 00:33:50,002 --> 00:33:51,170 Manager Bae. 612 00:33:53,631 --> 00:33:56,675 This is Manager Bae Seong-cheol of our Research and Development lab. 613 00:33:57,259 --> 00:33:59,428 He was the driving force behind the new product. 614 00:33:59,512 --> 00:34:01,639 I wouldn't say the driving force. 615 00:34:02,348 --> 00:34:04,934 This is an attorney and an employee from Hanbada. 616 00:34:05,559 --> 00:34:06,560 Hello. 617 00:34:07,103 --> 00:34:09,563 They're here to hear about the development of the new product. 618 00:34:10,272 --> 00:34:12,483 -Please have a seat. -Okay. 619 00:34:26,997 --> 00:34:30,042 When did you come up with the cassette security device? 620 00:34:30,126 --> 00:34:31,085 What? 621 00:34:32,128 --> 00:34:33,170 When? 622 00:34:35,297 --> 00:34:36,799 End of 2019? 623 00:34:37,383 --> 00:34:38,884 Early 2020? Around then. 624 00:34:38,968 --> 00:34:41,846 -Please tell us exactly when it was. -End of 2019. 625 00:34:42,930 --> 00:34:44,348 It was the end of 2019. 626 00:34:46,517 --> 00:34:48,686 Was there an incident that made you come up with this? 627 00:34:50,729 --> 00:34:52,064 Incident? 628 00:34:53,357 --> 00:34:55,693 Obviously, we are aware 629 00:34:55,776 --> 00:34:58,487 Ihwa ATM didn't just take the American team's technology, 630 00:34:58,571 --> 00:35:00,030 but that you developed it yourselves. 631 00:35:00,114 --> 00:35:02,032 But there are others who are suspicious. 632 00:35:02,616 --> 00:35:06,829 If the occasion or its process is more specific, it has more credibility. 633 00:35:06,912 --> 00:35:08,747 Which is why the attorney must've asked. 634 00:35:08,831 --> 00:35:09,832 Right. 635 00:35:11,459 --> 00:35:12,960 An incident? 636 00:35:13,043 --> 00:35:14,170 Incident… 637 00:35:15,671 --> 00:35:16,714 Seong-cheol. 638 00:35:17,339 --> 00:35:19,842 What is it? Are you shy? 639 00:35:20,801 --> 00:35:24,305 Speak properly. Why do you keep mumbling? 640 00:35:24,388 --> 00:35:25,473 Incident? 641 00:35:26,807 --> 00:35:29,768 He's not usually like this. 642 00:35:29,852 --> 00:35:33,063 Do you know what he used to do before he started working here? 643 00:35:34,064 --> 00:35:35,232 Theater. 644 00:35:35,316 --> 00:35:36,692 He was an actor. 645 00:35:36,775 --> 00:35:38,611 -A theater actor? -Yes! 646 00:35:38,694 --> 00:35:40,821 That's amazing. 647 00:35:40,905 --> 00:35:43,574 It was just for a short time in the past. 648 00:35:43,657 --> 00:35:44,783 Just minor roles. 649 00:35:45,493 --> 00:35:46,744 Mr. Bae Seong-cheol. 650 00:35:47,620 --> 00:35:52,124 Did you attend the Chicago International Engineering Fair back in 2019? 651 00:36:06,013 --> 00:36:08,849 Gosh, you're acting like a prosecutor. 652 00:36:08,933 --> 00:36:11,644 Since you're asking like you're interrogating us, 653 00:36:11,727 --> 00:36:14,230 it feels like we've become the suspects. 654 00:36:14,313 --> 00:36:16,982 You're on our side, right? 655 00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:24,740 It's Attorney Kwon. 656 00:36:24,823 --> 00:36:26,951 I'll take it here since it's probably about the case. 657 00:36:27,034 --> 00:36:29,036 ATTORNEY KWON MIN-WOO 658 00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:30,621 Hi, salute. 659 00:36:30,704 --> 00:36:31,872 Communication secured! 660 00:36:31,956 --> 00:36:35,417 Hello, Director. I just met with the man whose number you gave me. 661 00:36:35,501 --> 00:36:37,419 The one who worked at Leaders ATM. 662 00:36:37,503 --> 00:36:38,796 You did? 663 00:36:38,879 --> 00:36:43,342 Yes, and he confirmed that their products were all refunded and disposed of. 664 00:36:43,425 --> 00:36:46,220 It can't be found in the market. 665 00:36:46,303 --> 00:36:48,597 So I don't think you have to worry about it. 666 00:36:48,681 --> 00:36:50,975 No matter how much Geumgang wants to nitpick, 667 00:36:51,058 --> 00:36:53,769 there's nothing they can bring as evidence. 668 00:36:53,852 --> 00:36:56,897 Gosh, Attorney Kwon. 669 00:36:57,439 --> 00:36:58,607 You're the best. 670 00:36:58,691 --> 00:37:00,734 I will contact you again later. 671 00:37:00,818 --> 00:37:04,071 -Sure. Goodbye. -Yes, Director. Goodbye. Salute. 672 00:37:04,154 --> 00:37:05,406 Salute. 673 00:37:06,949 --> 00:37:08,701 That's good news. 674 00:37:08,784 --> 00:37:10,661 Yes, it's good. 675 00:37:11,161 --> 00:37:13,455 So should we end this interrogation? 676 00:37:13,539 --> 00:37:16,750 Attorney Kwon said not to worry. 677 00:37:17,835 --> 00:37:21,046 It's good that Geumgang ATM won't have any evidence to submit. 678 00:37:21,130 --> 00:37:25,009 However, we still have to substantiate that our claim is the truth. 679 00:37:25,926 --> 00:37:29,013 If Mr. Bae gives a testimony on the development process himself, 680 00:37:29,597 --> 00:37:31,265 I'm sure it will have a positive effect. 681 00:37:31,348 --> 00:37:32,182 What? 682 00:37:32,975 --> 00:37:35,644 Me? You want me to be a witness? 683 00:37:35,728 --> 00:37:40,441 But was this idea approved by all the other attorneys as well? 684 00:37:42,026 --> 00:37:44,278 I should call Attorney Kwon, and… 685 00:37:44,361 --> 00:37:48,407 This case is an injunction hearing, so the jargon is a little different. 686 00:37:48,490 --> 00:37:50,326 Obligee, instead of the plaintiff. 687 00:37:50,409 --> 00:37:52,036 Obligor, instead of the defendant. 688 00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:54,204 Reference witness, instead of the witness. 689 00:37:54,288 --> 00:37:55,623 And the reference witness… 690 00:38:00,336 --> 00:38:02,171 doesn't swear in. 691 00:38:03,505 --> 00:38:05,549 In other words, even if you commit perjury, 692 00:38:05,633 --> 00:38:07,593 you won't be punished for it. 693 00:38:13,349 --> 00:38:17,061 It'll look like you're lying if you stroke your thighs. 694 00:38:17,686 --> 00:38:20,648 Studies have shown that the jury doesn't like it 695 00:38:20,731 --> 00:38:23,108 when the witness' hands are hidden under the stand. 696 00:38:23,192 --> 00:38:25,361 There isn't a jury in an injunction case, 697 00:38:25,444 --> 00:38:28,030 but the judge wouldn't trust a reference witness 698 00:38:28,113 --> 00:38:29,615 who hides their hands either. 699 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,082 Most importantly, don't rub the tip of your nose. 700 00:38:39,083 --> 00:38:42,211 You'll look like Pinocchio whose catecholamine was released. 701 00:38:42,294 --> 00:38:44,338 Goodness, Attorney Woo, 702 00:38:44,963 --> 00:38:46,715 you're really coaching him. 703 00:38:47,383 --> 00:38:49,593 Manager Bae, write this down or something. 704 00:38:51,762 --> 00:38:53,639 Since you were a theater actor, 705 00:38:55,516 --> 00:38:56,892 I'll expect… 706 00:38:58,185 --> 00:38:59,353 you to be good at this. 707 00:38:59,436 --> 00:39:00,396 Right. 708 00:39:01,563 --> 00:39:02,398 Yes. 709 00:39:13,784 --> 00:39:16,537 We request the questioning of the reference witness, Mr. Bae Seong-cheol, 710 00:39:16,620 --> 00:39:19,623 the manager of the Research and Development Team at Ihwa ATM. 711 00:39:20,207 --> 00:39:21,875 Yes, I'll allow it. 712 00:39:22,751 --> 00:39:24,294 Reference witness, step forward. 713 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,067 Obligee's counselor, you may ask questions first. 714 00:39:59,329 --> 00:40:00,456 Sir. 715 00:40:01,039 --> 00:40:02,499 Please introduce yourself. 716 00:40:03,917 --> 00:40:06,003 My name is Bae Seong-cheol. 717 00:40:06,086 --> 00:40:08,839 I'm the manager at Ihwa ATM's Research and Development Team. 718 00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:17,723 The key technology of the 2022 model 719 00:40:17,806 --> 00:40:19,933 of automatic teller machines that Ihwa ATM made 720 00:40:20,017 --> 00:40:22,311 is the cassette with the security device. 721 00:40:22,394 --> 00:40:23,270 Correct? 722 00:40:23,353 --> 00:40:24,396 Yes. 723 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:28,484 I developed it with my own two hands. 724 00:40:28,567 --> 00:40:30,527 When did you first develop it? 725 00:40:30,611 --> 00:40:32,654 It was the winter of 2019. 726 00:40:32,738 --> 00:40:35,741 It was an extremely cold day in November. 727 00:40:36,533 --> 00:40:40,037 Was there a particular incident that motivated you to develop it? 728 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,208 That winter, there were many cases of ATMs being rigged for embezzlement. 729 00:40:44,291 --> 00:40:46,293 So then, we got orders from the higher-ups. 730 00:40:46,376 --> 00:40:48,086 "Create a new cassette." 731 00:40:48,754 --> 00:40:54,301 "Create an honest cassette on which lies and tricks won't work." 732 00:40:55,010 --> 00:40:57,387 Could you explain the development process? 733 00:41:04,853 --> 00:41:08,524 The blood and tears of the people in Ihwa's Research and Development Team. 734 00:41:11,527 --> 00:41:13,779 Is there an explanation more accurate than this? 735 00:41:16,114 --> 00:41:17,533 Until the day we applied for model utility rights 736 00:41:17,616 --> 00:41:20,661 for the cassette security device in October of 2020, 737 00:41:20,744 --> 00:41:24,039 we continued challenging ourselves, tirelessly. 738 00:41:26,041 --> 00:41:27,835 Are you putting on some kind of play? 739 00:41:27,918 --> 00:41:29,837 We obviously know that you took someone else's technology. 740 00:41:31,380 --> 00:41:34,424 Obligor, you will have enough opportunity to speak. 741 00:41:34,508 --> 00:41:35,926 Do not interrupt during the questioning. 742 00:41:37,469 --> 00:41:40,639 I'm going to be straightforward and ask you. 743 00:41:40,722 --> 00:41:42,808 Did you attend the Chicago International Engineering Fair 744 00:41:42,891 --> 00:41:45,477 that was held in the United States in 2019? 745 00:41:53,610 --> 00:41:54,862 Sir? 746 00:42:27,811 --> 00:42:28,812 Your Honor. 747 00:42:29,438 --> 00:42:30,397 Sir? 748 00:42:37,863 --> 00:42:39,239 Ihwa ATM 749 00:42:40,365 --> 00:42:42,242 is a very small company. 750 00:42:44,286 --> 00:42:47,164 There are only five people in the Research and Development Team. 751 00:42:47,247 --> 00:42:48,832 Those five people 752 00:42:48,916 --> 00:42:53,211 put their heads and hearts together and researched and developed for days. 753 00:42:53,795 --> 00:42:56,340 It's such a waste of our efforts 754 00:42:57,257 --> 00:43:00,427 for us to be framed for taking someone else's technology. 755 00:43:01,261 --> 00:43:03,180 People all think similarly, 756 00:43:03,263 --> 00:43:05,641 so similar products may be released around similar times. 757 00:43:05,724 --> 00:43:06,558 However, 758 00:43:09,811 --> 00:43:12,189 to lie about copying another's technology? 759 00:43:13,649 --> 00:43:17,527 We're not the kind of company to lie about having developed something ourselves. 760 00:43:19,237 --> 00:43:21,740 Neither Director Hwang, who is sitting over there, nor I 761 00:43:22,574 --> 00:43:24,868 would ever do such a thing. 762 00:43:32,793 --> 00:43:34,002 Your Honor. 763 00:43:34,086 --> 00:43:38,548 It still takes days and nights of working to take and use someone else's technology. 764 00:43:38,632 --> 00:43:40,133 It's always like that! 765 00:43:40,217 --> 00:43:41,843 As I said before, 766 00:43:41,927 --> 00:43:44,262 we're in the middle of questioning the reference witness, so… 767 00:43:44,346 --> 00:43:46,890 This is a show, not a questioning! 768 00:43:48,392 --> 00:43:51,353 I'm going through every junk shop in the country 769 00:43:51,436 --> 00:43:54,272 to find evidence that will reveal their outrageous lie. 770 00:43:54,982 --> 00:43:58,318 If only I can find one of the cassettes made by Leaders… 771 00:43:58,402 --> 00:44:00,487 So did you find it? 772 00:44:05,575 --> 00:44:07,119 Did you find the evidence? 773 00:44:09,037 --> 00:44:12,958 -I'm looking all over the country-- -Then talk after you find it. 774 00:44:13,041 --> 00:44:14,251 For now, sit down. 775 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,086 Sit down. 776 00:44:19,881 --> 00:44:21,133 Obligee's counselor. 777 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,260 Do you have any more questions? 778 00:44:28,890 --> 00:44:30,267 No. 779 00:44:30,350 --> 00:44:31,268 That is all. 780 00:44:38,191 --> 00:44:40,902 Obligor's counselor, you may now begin cross-examination. 781 00:44:43,947 --> 00:44:45,782 Nice work. It's looking good for us. 782 00:44:46,491 --> 00:44:47,325 Thank you. 783 00:44:47,409 --> 00:44:50,203 I prepared a lot for the reference witness's interrogation, 784 00:44:50,287 --> 00:44:51,830 so I'm glad it worked. 785 00:44:51,913 --> 00:44:54,458 Obligor's counselor, begin your questioning. 786 00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:56,501 Yes, Your Honor. 787 00:45:06,928 --> 00:45:09,639 Did you hear that an injunction was decided? 788 00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:12,309 Oh, yes. 789 00:45:12,392 --> 00:45:15,645 The people at Geumgang must not have a clue as to how to deal with this 790 00:45:15,729 --> 00:45:18,607 since production and sales have all been banned. 791 00:45:19,107 --> 00:45:20,150 Anyway, this is all 792 00:45:20,901 --> 00:45:23,028 thanks to the attorneys at Hanbada. 793 00:45:24,112 --> 00:45:25,155 Thank you! 794 00:45:26,782 --> 00:45:29,201 This is a gift from Ihwa ATM. Take a look. 795 00:45:33,830 --> 00:45:35,665 A painting that brings in wealth! 796 00:45:35,749 --> 00:45:37,584 In other words, a sunflower. 797 00:45:37,667 --> 00:45:41,546 Make more and more money, the same way a sunflower grows taller and taller! 798 00:45:43,173 --> 00:45:44,925 Yes, thank you. 799 00:45:46,551 --> 00:45:48,053 Where should we hang this up? 800 00:45:48,762 --> 00:45:50,472 Right here is perfect. 801 00:45:51,264 --> 00:45:53,141 You don't need this here. You have it memorized, right? 802 00:45:53,225 --> 00:45:54,684 ATTORNEY'S CODE OF ETHICS 803 00:45:54,768 --> 00:45:55,769 All right. 804 00:45:57,896 --> 00:45:58,897 Here. 805 00:46:04,736 --> 00:46:05,737 That's nice! 806 00:46:06,321 --> 00:46:07,155 Right? 807 00:46:07,906 --> 00:46:10,617 Take in all this energy 808 00:46:11,284 --> 00:46:12,410 and get rich! 809 00:46:13,578 --> 00:46:14,621 Okay. 810 00:46:17,874 --> 00:46:19,209 I'll get going then. 811 00:46:23,338 --> 00:46:25,006 I've brought your mail. 812 00:46:25,090 --> 00:46:26,007 Okay. 813 00:46:31,930 --> 00:46:35,183 FROM CEO OF GEUMGANG ATM OH JIN-JONG 814 00:47:00,125 --> 00:47:01,418 ATTORNEY JUNG MYEONG-SEOK 815 00:47:12,345 --> 00:47:13,179 Come in. 816 00:47:17,642 --> 00:47:20,145 Attorney Kwon, did you get the letter? 817 00:47:21,187 --> 00:47:22,230 What letter? 818 00:47:24,232 --> 00:47:25,525 FROM CEO OF GEUMGANG ATM OH JIN-JONG 819 00:47:30,363 --> 00:47:32,115 "Please read this, Attorney Woo." 820 00:47:32,949 --> 00:47:36,411 This is a misunderstanding. You don't need to be concerned about it. Once we… 821 00:47:36,494 --> 00:47:37,913 Please read this, Attorney Woo. 822 00:47:37,996 --> 00:47:39,331 No, that will never happen. 823 00:47:39,414 --> 00:47:41,374 As I repeatedly said before, 824 00:47:41,458 --> 00:47:43,793 that technology was developed by an American company 825 00:47:43,877 --> 00:47:45,795 and was made public at the exhibition. 826 00:47:46,630 --> 00:47:50,133 Both Geumgang and Ihwa took it to make products. 827 00:47:52,510 --> 00:47:53,553 Sir. 828 00:47:53,637 --> 00:47:56,723 News of the sales ban injunction spread too quickly. 829 00:47:56,806 --> 00:48:00,060 So it seems like some of the investors are about to barge in here. 830 00:48:00,143 --> 00:48:02,646 Why don't you lay low for a while? 831 00:48:04,022 --> 00:48:06,441 Then Ihwa ATM submitted for model utility rights 832 00:48:06,524 --> 00:48:09,819 because they wanted to monopolize it. Why are you disregarding the truth? 833 00:48:11,029 --> 00:48:14,491 If the ban on production and sales is prolonged with this injunction, 834 00:48:14,574 --> 00:48:18,161 Geumgang, which is smaller than Ihwa, will be out of business soon. 835 00:48:21,039 --> 00:48:22,040 Sir! 836 00:48:22,123 --> 00:48:23,833 Sir, you should go now. 837 00:48:23,917 --> 00:48:26,002 -Open the door! -Get out here right now! 838 00:48:26,086 --> 00:48:27,504 Don't hide! Get out here! 839 00:48:29,547 --> 00:48:30,548 Sir. 840 00:48:30,632 --> 00:48:31,758 -Open up! -Come out! 841 00:48:31,841 --> 00:48:33,760 -Come out of there! -Let's talk! 842 00:48:33,843 --> 00:48:35,345 -Come out! -Get out here! 843 00:48:35,428 --> 00:48:36,554 Sir! 844 00:48:36,638 --> 00:48:40,934 Do you want to be a competent attorney who only wins in court? 845 00:48:41,643 --> 00:48:45,480 Or do you want to be an honorable attorney who reveals the truth? 846 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,274 Right. 847 00:48:50,068 --> 00:48:51,736 Why didn't he send one to me? 848 00:48:52,737 --> 00:48:54,030 Did I have no presence? 849 00:48:54,739 --> 00:48:57,575 If this letter is true, 850 00:48:58,159 --> 00:48:59,911 shouldn't we do something about it? 851 00:48:59,995 --> 00:49:01,121 Like what? 852 00:49:02,747 --> 00:49:04,499 We pleaded the client's position well 853 00:49:04,582 --> 00:49:07,460 and got them the injunction they wanted. What more should we do? 854 00:49:07,544 --> 00:49:09,629 If this letter is true-- 855 00:49:09,713 --> 00:49:11,214 Attorney Woo. 856 00:49:11,297 --> 00:49:14,217 When are you going to stop talking about whether something is true or false? 857 00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:17,637 Didn't you visit Ihwa's headquarters yourself to figure that out? 858 00:49:17,721 --> 00:49:21,641 What if we show this letter to the people at Ihwa ATM and persuade them 859 00:49:21,725 --> 00:49:24,227 to apply for revocation of the injunction? 860 00:49:24,310 --> 00:49:25,353 What? 861 00:49:26,312 --> 00:49:27,564 For what reason? 862 00:49:28,273 --> 00:49:30,734 Because the contents of this letter might be true. 863 00:49:30,817 --> 00:49:32,360 Do you have any evidence that it is? 864 00:49:34,988 --> 00:49:36,072 I mean, 865 00:49:37,699 --> 00:49:41,536 if you can't trust the client, you shouldn't have taken on the case. 866 00:49:41,619 --> 00:49:45,665 Are you saying we should turn things around because of this letter? 867 00:49:45,749 --> 00:49:47,125 Does this make sense to you? 868 00:49:48,084 --> 00:49:50,336 You really are Wild Card Woo Young-woo. 869 00:49:50,420 --> 00:49:52,213 Why do you always think of ways to mess things up? 870 00:49:53,423 --> 00:49:55,842 Don't call me Wild Card Woo Young-woo! 871 00:49:55,925 --> 00:49:58,303 Do you like it if I call you Tactician Kwon Min-woo? 872 00:49:59,471 --> 00:50:01,014 I think the tactician 873 00:50:01,931 --> 00:50:03,266 is you, Attorney Woo. 874 00:50:04,017 --> 00:50:04,851 What? 875 00:50:04,934 --> 00:50:06,853 You coached the reference witness for the questioning, right? 876 00:50:08,980 --> 00:50:11,316 I thought I was watching an American TV show. 877 00:50:11,858 --> 00:50:14,069 He came really prepared. 878 00:50:14,569 --> 00:50:17,238 The questions, the responses, 879 00:50:17,322 --> 00:50:19,866 and it seemed like there was also a script. 880 00:50:21,618 --> 00:50:24,162 Be honest, Attorney Woo. 881 00:50:24,245 --> 00:50:26,623 Did you think the reference witness was speaking the truth? 882 00:50:29,042 --> 00:50:30,043 You didn't, right? 883 00:50:30,752 --> 00:50:32,337 Didn't you help him sound like he was speaking the truth 884 00:50:32,420 --> 00:50:34,172 because you thought he wasn't? 885 00:50:34,255 --> 00:50:36,549 That's exactly what using tactics is. 886 00:50:37,509 --> 00:50:39,969 Whether you thought it was true or not, 887 00:50:40,678 --> 00:50:42,764 if you decided to trust him, stick to it. 888 00:50:42,847 --> 00:50:46,434 You owe that to the client 889 00:50:46,976 --> 00:50:48,228 as an attorney. 890 00:51:05,578 --> 00:51:06,996 Can I have the paperwork I asked for earlier? 891 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,498 -Okay. -Thank you. 892 00:51:08,581 --> 00:51:09,707 Hey, Attorney Woo. 893 00:51:11,376 --> 00:51:13,962 I saw that you called me earlier. What was it about? 894 00:51:14,838 --> 00:51:15,672 Right. 895 00:51:20,385 --> 00:51:23,346 I had something I wanted to ask you earlier. 896 00:51:24,222 --> 00:51:25,306 You did? 897 00:51:27,142 --> 00:51:28,601 Now, I don't. 898 00:51:29,269 --> 00:51:31,062 What? All right then. 899 00:52:37,337 --> 00:52:40,632 This is unexpected. Woo Young-woo eating in the cafeteria? 900 00:52:40,715 --> 00:52:43,134 Today's dinner menu is gimbap. 901 00:52:44,886 --> 00:52:47,180 I should tell you whenever they serving gimbap from now on then. 902 00:52:51,309 --> 00:52:53,478 It seemed like you told Attorney Kwon. 903 00:52:54,145 --> 00:52:56,397 -What? -Tactician Kwon Min-woo. 904 00:52:57,523 --> 00:52:58,358 Right. 905 00:52:58,441 --> 00:53:01,236 That's because he kept calling me Wild Card Woo Young-woo. 906 00:53:01,319 --> 00:53:04,739 You're on a nickname basis now after working on one case together? 907 00:53:04,822 --> 00:53:07,242 Wild Card Woo Young-woo is not my nickname. 908 00:53:08,034 --> 00:53:09,535 Make me one. 909 00:53:12,705 --> 00:53:14,666 How about "Babyface Choi Su-yeon"? 910 00:53:16,459 --> 00:53:17,585 Or… 911 00:53:18,711 --> 00:53:20,338 "Most Beautiful Choi Su-yeon"? 912 00:53:20,421 --> 00:53:21,422 No. 913 00:53:22,674 --> 00:53:24,300 -No? -No. 914 00:53:24,384 --> 00:53:25,635 Those aren't you. 915 00:53:25,718 --> 00:53:26,803 Then what am I? 916 00:53:28,721 --> 00:53:29,681 You're… 917 00:53:30,390 --> 00:53:31,432 I'm? 918 00:53:32,809 --> 00:53:34,560 like the spring sunshine. 919 00:53:36,521 --> 00:53:37,355 What? 920 00:53:37,438 --> 00:53:40,441 I've thought so ever since we were in law school. 921 00:53:40,525 --> 00:53:43,569 You told me where the lecture hall was, when class was canceled, 922 00:53:43,653 --> 00:53:45,280 and when the test material changed. 923 00:53:45,363 --> 00:53:49,534 You tried to stop the other students from making fun of me or bullying me. 924 00:53:50,618 --> 00:53:52,912 Even now, you open my water bottles for me 925 00:53:52,996 --> 00:53:56,708 and tell me that you'll let me know when they serve gimbap again. 926 00:53:56,791 --> 00:54:02,755 You're a bright, warm, kind, and sweet person. 927 00:54:04,132 --> 00:54:06,467 You're Spring Sunshine Su-yeon. 928 00:54:23,443 --> 00:54:24,444 Attorney Woo. 929 00:54:26,029 --> 00:54:28,781 You know how Geumgang ATM filed an appeal for the injunction? 930 00:54:29,532 --> 00:54:30,366 Yes. 931 00:54:30,450 --> 00:54:32,618 And now they're saying that there should be an on-site verification. 932 00:54:33,328 --> 00:54:35,872 The CEO of Geumgang was going on about going through junk shops 933 00:54:35,955 --> 00:54:37,957 all over the country to find evidence. 934 00:54:38,666 --> 00:54:40,168 It seems as though he finally found something. 935 00:54:41,169 --> 00:54:42,628 On-site verification? 936 00:54:42,712 --> 00:54:45,882 Yes. They want us at a bank in Mangu-dong, Jungnang-gu. 937 00:54:46,674 --> 00:54:47,633 Enjoy your meal. 938 00:54:48,384 --> 00:54:49,344 Thanks. 939 00:54:59,145 --> 00:55:04,817 We will now start the on-site verification of Case Number 2022, Injunction Case 1547, 940 00:55:04,901 --> 00:55:08,946 based on the procedures of the appeal filed for the preliminary injunction 941 00:55:09,030 --> 00:55:10,740 against infringement of intellectual property rights. 942 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,242 Obligor's counselor. 943 00:55:13,785 --> 00:55:15,620 You applied for on-site verification. 944 00:55:15,703 --> 00:55:18,081 Could you show us the object of verification? 945 00:55:18,164 --> 00:55:19,207 Yes, Your Honor. 946 00:55:20,375 --> 00:55:23,503 This is the automatic teller machine made by Leaders ATM. 947 00:55:23,586 --> 00:55:25,588 Most of the same models have been disposed of, 948 00:55:25,671 --> 00:55:28,758 but this one machine was left here in the Mangu-dong branch. 949 00:55:28,841 --> 00:55:31,594 Could you open it and show us the cassette? 950 00:55:40,269 --> 00:55:41,396 This is the cassette. 951 00:55:46,275 --> 00:55:49,612 This is the cassette that Ihwa ATM claims to have developed on their own. 952 00:55:50,196 --> 00:55:52,198 Please compare the two cassettes. 953 00:55:52,782 --> 00:55:55,451 The difference between these cassettes and typical cassettes 954 00:55:55,535 --> 00:55:57,412 is the number plate on the front 955 00:55:57,495 --> 00:56:00,581 and the weight measuring sensor for the bills at the bottom on the inside. 956 00:56:06,671 --> 00:56:09,882 The two cassettes are not only similar on the outside. 957 00:56:12,260 --> 00:56:14,262 Please look at the cassette designs of the two companies. 958 00:56:14,971 --> 00:56:17,014 The interior layout is also similar. 959 00:56:19,725 --> 00:56:24,272 Ihwa ATM applied for model utility rights in October of 2020. 960 00:56:24,355 --> 00:56:27,358 So when did Leaders ATM make this product? 961 00:56:28,276 --> 00:56:31,612 Could you please check the delivery date that is marked on the inside? 962 00:56:35,116 --> 00:56:40,663 The delivery date is October 23rd, 2019. 963 00:56:41,706 --> 00:56:42,874 Yes. 964 00:56:42,957 --> 00:56:47,003 This product was manufactured a year before Ihwa ATM. 965 00:56:47,587 --> 00:56:51,132 Novelty is the most important factor for the application of model utility rights. 966 00:56:51,215 --> 00:56:53,384 It can't be the same as prior technology. 967 00:56:54,051 --> 00:56:57,722 This is a matter stated in Article 29 of the Patent Act. 968 00:56:58,306 --> 00:56:59,307 Therefore, Ihwa ATM 969 00:56:59,390 --> 00:57:02,393 is not qualified to acquire model utility rights for this technology. 970 00:57:02,477 --> 00:57:04,979 Thus, we request the revocation of the injunction prohibiting 971 00:57:05,062 --> 00:57:07,398 production and sales that have been issued to Geumgang ATM. 972 00:57:26,209 --> 00:57:27,418 -Thank you. -Thank you. 973 00:57:29,337 --> 00:57:30,296 Take care. 974 00:57:35,635 --> 00:57:36,969 Good work. 975 00:57:45,561 --> 00:57:48,481 The injunction is likely to be revoked. 976 00:57:49,148 --> 00:57:50,817 It seems so. 977 00:57:50,900 --> 00:57:53,027 And the possibility of the model utility rights 978 00:57:53,110 --> 00:57:55,988 not passing the evaluation seems high as well. 979 00:57:57,281 --> 00:57:58,407 I guess so. 980 00:58:01,202 --> 00:58:02,370 Are you all right? 981 00:58:02,453 --> 00:58:03,621 Yes, I'm fine. 982 00:58:03,704 --> 00:58:05,206 While the injunction was issued, 983 00:58:05,289 --> 00:58:07,792 I completed most of the supply contracts with the banks. 984 00:58:07,875 --> 00:58:09,919 Even if it's revoked, it won't affect us much. 985 00:58:10,753 --> 00:58:11,671 I see. 986 00:58:12,672 --> 00:58:14,799 Was this your plan the whole time? 987 00:58:17,051 --> 00:58:19,262 What you said about developing the technology on your own… 988 00:58:19,345 --> 00:58:21,848 I'm glad you're fine. 989 00:58:21,931 --> 00:58:23,766 We're just a little worried because technically, 990 00:58:23,850 --> 00:58:25,226 Geumgang won the trial. 991 00:58:25,309 --> 00:58:28,396 Winning this battle doesn't matter. They lost the war. 992 00:58:29,397 --> 00:58:33,442 The CEO of Geumgang probably already knows that we won all the contracts. 993 00:58:33,526 --> 00:58:35,945 He's just mad, so he's dragging it out until the end. 994 00:58:36,737 --> 00:58:39,407 This one should hurt quite a bit. 995 00:58:40,116 --> 00:58:43,786 Gosh, I wonder if Geumgang will be following down the path Leaders took? 996 00:58:44,495 --> 00:58:49,000 Anyway, this is all thanks to you. You all did such an amazing job. 997 00:58:49,083 --> 00:58:51,043 We really appreciate it. 998 00:58:54,755 --> 00:58:55,965 I'll get going then. 999 00:59:52,355 --> 00:59:53,397 Attorney Woo? 1000 00:59:55,942 --> 00:59:57,276 So, ultimately, 1001 00:59:58,486 --> 01:00:01,822 I helped Ihwa ATM take advantage of the law. 1002 01:00:02,782 --> 01:00:04,116 Excuse me? 1003 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,078 Applying for model utility rights, and filing for the injunction 1004 01:00:07,620 --> 01:00:10,665 were all lies to monopolize the contracts. 1005 01:00:11,248 --> 01:00:14,293 And instead of stopping them, I helped. 1006 01:00:18,798 --> 01:00:20,174 And what's worse is… 1007 01:00:23,636 --> 01:00:26,305 I think I already knew that. 1008 01:00:34,981 --> 01:00:37,775 When we visited Ihwa ATM, 1009 01:00:37,858 --> 01:00:42,488 did you think Director Hwang and Manager Bae were speaking the truth? 1010 01:00:44,323 --> 01:00:45,366 Well… 1011 01:00:45,950 --> 01:00:47,994 -I… -There's no way you did. 1012 01:00:49,161 --> 01:00:52,373 Try to remember what Mr. Bae was like at the time. 1013 01:00:53,249 --> 01:00:56,252 Sitting down with his legs looking like they're ready to bolt out of the room, 1014 01:00:56,335 --> 01:00:58,963 his arms stuck to his body as if he was tied to the chair, 1015 01:00:59,672 --> 01:01:02,299 repeatedly stroking his thighs with his hands, 1016 01:01:02,383 --> 01:01:04,343 and even rubbing the tip of his nose. 1017 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,847 He was a lie in and of itself. 1018 01:01:10,516 --> 01:01:11,642 Right. 1019 01:01:12,393 --> 01:01:13,644 In the end, 1020 01:01:15,187 --> 01:01:18,607 I fooled myself, pretending not to know the truth 1021 01:01:20,526 --> 01:01:22,403 when I did. 1022 01:01:24,447 --> 01:01:26,032 Because I wanted to win. 1023 01:01:29,410 --> 01:01:30,411 Right. 1024 01:01:37,293 --> 01:01:38,753 I'm ashamed. 1025 01:02:14,663 --> 01:02:21,545 ATTORNEY WOO YOUNG-WOO 1026 01:03:11,011 --> 01:03:12,721 PLEASE READ THIS, ATTORNEY WOO 1027 01:03:12,805 --> 01:03:17,226 WHY ARE YOU DISREGARDING THE TRUTH? 1028 01:03:21,063 --> 01:03:23,858 DO YOU WANT TO BE A COMPETENT ATTORNEY WHO ONLY WINS IN COURT? 1029 01:03:23,941 --> 01:03:27,069 OR DO YOU WANT TO BE AN HONORABLE ATTORNEY WHO REVEALS THE TRUTH? 1030 01:03:39,073 --> 01:03:41,158 TAESAN LAW FIRM ATTORNEY TAE SU-MI 1031 01:03:43,535 --> 01:03:44,745 Come in. 1032 01:03:49,083 --> 01:03:50,084 Right. 1033 01:03:58,675 --> 01:04:01,011 Candidate Tae Su-mi, it's nice to finally meet you. 1034 01:04:01,095 --> 01:04:03,389 I'm Administrator Kim Yeong-il 1035 01:04:03,472 --> 01:04:04,723 from the Office of the Secretary at the Blue House. 1036 01:04:05,391 --> 01:04:06,350 I'm Tae Su-mi. 1037 01:04:06,934 --> 01:04:08,185 Have a seat. 1038 01:04:10,145 --> 01:04:13,440 Congratulations on becoming a candidate for the Minister of Justice. 1039 01:04:14,274 --> 01:04:16,110 I'm just a candidate. 1040 01:04:16,652 --> 01:04:19,405 I'm worried I have such a high mountain climb. 1041 01:04:20,114 --> 01:04:23,158 You're here today to retrieve the paperwork, right? 1042 01:04:26,286 --> 01:04:28,956 PRELIMINARY QUESTIONNAIRE FOR HIGH-RANKING PUBLIC OFFICIAL CANDIDATES 1043 01:04:29,456 --> 01:04:32,334 I was writing the self-verification statement, 1044 01:04:32,418 --> 01:04:33,502 and I was nervous. 1045 01:04:35,337 --> 01:04:38,340 I take pride in having lived an incomparably decent life, 1046 01:04:39,174 --> 01:04:41,677 but the idea of someone verifying it made me nervous. 1047 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,763 We've never had the former CEO of the country's greatest law firm 1048 01:04:44,847 --> 01:04:47,266 as a candidate for Minister of Justice before. 1049 01:04:48,267 --> 01:04:49,852 Seeing as how this is an unconventional selection, 1050 01:04:49,935 --> 01:04:52,020 we are planning on doing an extra thorough verification 1051 01:04:52,104 --> 01:04:53,689 before writing up the report. 1052 01:04:54,398 --> 01:04:55,315 In the end, 1053 01:04:55,983 --> 01:04:58,485 the goal is to safely make it through the confirmation hearing. 1054 01:04:59,111 --> 01:05:01,238 Of course. I look forward to working with you. 1055 01:05:05,451 --> 01:05:08,162 There's one thing I have to ask you. 1056 01:05:08,912 --> 01:05:09,913 Go ahead. 1057 01:05:09,997 --> 01:05:13,250 We can't ignore public opinion during the candidate verification. 1058 01:05:13,333 --> 01:05:14,668 Public opinion? 1059 01:05:15,294 --> 01:05:17,004 Are you talking about my reputation? 1060 01:05:17,087 --> 01:05:17,963 Yes. 1061 01:05:19,214 --> 01:05:21,216 It seems as though there's a rumor 1062 01:05:21,967 --> 01:05:24,344 among your university colleagues. 1063 01:05:25,429 --> 01:05:26,972 Is that so? What is it? 1064 01:05:27,055 --> 01:05:29,016 That you, Candidate Tae, 1065 01:05:30,767 --> 01:05:32,895 have a child out of wedlock. 1066 01:05:32,978 --> 01:05:34,104 Are you aware of this? 1067 01:05:39,234 --> 01:05:41,236 I thought it was going to be something else. 1068 01:05:42,279 --> 01:05:44,823 Isn't that such petty gossip to worry about? 1069 01:05:46,450 --> 01:05:48,035 It is petty gossip. 1070 01:05:48,952 --> 01:05:50,329 But you know as much as I do 1071 01:05:50,954 --> 01:05:54,291 that it's always the little things that ruin public officials. 1072 01:05:58,045 --> 01:05:59,713 It really is preposterous. 1073 01:06:00,506 --> 01:06:02,716 Why does that kind of rumor keep circulating? 1074 01:06:03,383 --> 01:06:04,384 Perhaps, 1075 01:06:05,260 --> 01:06:08,680 there's someone who resembles me out there somewhere. 1076 01:06:10,349 --> 01:06:12,976 So I can trust that you don't have 1077 01:06:14,186 --> 01:06:15,687 any illegitimate children? 1078 01:06:16,271 --> 01:06:17,314 Of course. 1079 01:06:35,749 --> 01:06:39,795 Cool down Attorney Choi so that she doesn't treat this case emotionally. 1080 01:06:42,506 --> 01:06:45,175 Did you run away so that you could raise her until she reached an age 1081 01:06:45,259 --> 01:06:47,219 -where she could remember her mother? -Yes. 1082 01:06:48,929 --> 01:06:52,391 -Ms. Gye Hyang-sim must get probation! -That was passionate. 1083 01:06:52,474 --> 01:06:55,185 Are you going to trial because you don't want to yield? 1084 01:06:55,269 --> 01:06:56,395 They're such a good-looking match. 1085 01:06:56,478 --> 01:06:58,939 Don't you think Jun-ho likes Attorney Choi? 1086 01:06:59,022 --> 01:07:02,109 If I were a whale, would my mom not have abandoned me? 1087 01:07:02,818 --> 01:07:07,823 Subtitle translation by: Hyun-soo Cho 79544

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