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Well, Dick, people already
think feminism is a dirty word,
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so I say if you can't beat 'em,
join 'em.
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Too glib?
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Too glib.
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Well, Dick, I've always found
the best truths are naked ones.
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That is good.
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Doug, where have you been?
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Who's Doug?
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Maggie! Tell me everything.
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- If you elope, I will kill you.
- I'm so glad you made it.
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Well, I only had to tell a
little fib to get out of work.
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We're on deadline as always.
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But there was no way
I was gonna miss you
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on Dick friggin' Cavett!
- I know!
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Can you believe how crazy...
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I mean, this has all
happened so fast.
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You are famous.
And this is just the beginning.
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You know, they put me
up at the Plaza.
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My room has three phones,
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this entryway chandelier,
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and its own echo.
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I always knew you would
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come back to New York
in triumph.
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Your magazine is...
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I do not how you pull it off.
- Well, you know me.
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I've always found the best
truths are naked ones.
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That is good!
You should say that.
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It's good, right?
I'm using that.
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And Betsy?
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Senior editor? Since when?
- That is a story.
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So Guinevere was in Staden...
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Miss Prigger,
you're needed in makeup.
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Miss Prigger,
you're needed in makeup.
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Stop it.
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She's a summer.
Don't put her in a plum.
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Thank you.
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So you got that California glow.
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Ever been to New York?
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What is progress
if not the expansion
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of freedom and opportunity?
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That's all the Vietnamese want.
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Who's the US government
to try and stop them?
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Joselyn,
can you come here a sec?
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After you do the dishes, can...
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Oof, five eggs?
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What's her name?
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Who was the blonde
with the funny walk
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who was here before her?
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- Patty.
- Yeah, Patty.
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She used to get way more eggs
out of those birds.
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Sorry.
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I'm just getting the hang of it.
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Yeah, well,
the chickens can tell.
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This is Sven. He's new.
He'll be taking Roger's room.
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Why? What happened to Roger?
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Pigs busted his head in
at our Wall Street action.
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Parents had to fly in from
Aspen just to take him home.
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God, that's awful.
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I don't wanna cause any problems
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but, my understanding
was that rooms here
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were assigned based on seniority,
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and I'm still on that moldy
mattress in the pantry.
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Yeah, but Sven's from Europe,
so-
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Guys, there's no way
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we're walking these things
to Washington Square.
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Make them too big, they're not
gonna fit in the van.
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Those milk jugs get any bigger,
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they're not gonna fit
in the van either.
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Sit down.
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One more.
Billy, please one more.
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Please.
- All right. One more.
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Then I gotta hit the road.
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Drive any drunker,
ain't no autograph
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getting me out of that trouble.
- Right.
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That's "fitty" for each titty,
little lady.
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Keep drinking,
I might be able to get my baby
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out of public school.
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I'm just admiring
a fine pair of breasts
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and she's gotta mention her kid?
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Talk about a boner bomb.
- Yeah.
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Still, I'd tax that. Hard.
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See, that's a flavor
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that we don't currently have
at the magazine.
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I'm seeing the perfect storm
between man and moment, Billy.
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I don't know, Doug.
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On the one hand,
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showing my hog,
that's pure Billy Brunson.
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Classic GOAT.
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On the other,
I don't like the idea
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of fairies beating off to me.
- Well, this magazine is not
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for the homosexual community.
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It's for women.
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- Yeah?
- A lot of them.
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I just got out of
a meeting with Seagram's.
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I wasn't gonna say this,
but I got Detroit
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on lines three, four,
and five, okay?
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And if you're thinking
about what comes next
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for Billy Brunson
after football,
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this launches that.
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Why y'all gotta do
all that women's lib crap?
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Down in 'Bama,
we grow 'em blonde and quiet.
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So take back the mic.
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I mean, how many times
you been on the cover
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of "Sports Illustrated"?
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Six?
- Seven.
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Maybe it's time to make
some new news, Billy.
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You want that ex-wife of yours
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to be unable to escape
your face.
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Ol' Warren Beatty
dumped her quick
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after I whopped his ass.
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I'm gonna tell you,
I don't hate women, Doug.
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I know that, Billy.
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It's one of the things
I admire most about you.
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But I might punch out
the occasional movie star
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if he plows my ex.
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I framed the restraining order.
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Now, why don't we publish it
in the magazine?
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I could pose like Clyde
from Bonnie and Clyde.
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That'd be a nice ol' dig.
- Give you a Tommy gun
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to hold onto.
- Tommy gun?
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Brother, with what I'm packing,
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you ain't gonna need
no other gun.
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This cheese
is starting to bubble.
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Get in here.
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Picasso's got nothing
on my bread cubes.
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Shot break!
Everyone grab some tequi-qui.
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"Minx" is prime time, baby.
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Yes!
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That's the good stuff.
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Now, Miss Tina, I know you got
fondue forks somewhere.
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- Pantry.
- Ah.
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Grass break!
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Okay, before you get
too excited,
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there will be no acid break...
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- This evening.
- What are these?
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Nothing. My dad sent them.
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Well, first of all,
your dad's dead.
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Secondly, why are you hiding
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ghost dad's flowers
in the pantry?
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Did I miss grass break?
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- Bookstore Bill?
- It's nobody.
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Can't a girl
buy herself some roses?
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Come on. You have to tell us.
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Is it your second cousin Derek?
- He's my nephew.
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- You said he was cute.
- He's 12.
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My God.
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Doug?
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Again?
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I'm telling you, man.
I'm on the goddamn list.
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I'm the publisher
of the magazine.
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- What magazine?
- "Minx"!
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My lady editor is on the show.
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And I... and I am
the reason she's here!
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Renetti, not on the list.
I can't let you up.
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- Then call somebody, please.
- It's two minutes to air.
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There's no one to call.
You are out of luck.
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I'm sorry.
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Right there. Joyce Prigger.
Her plus two.
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I'm that little scribble.
I'm the second scribble.
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It's Doug Renetti.
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That is small.
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Yeah, go ahead. You're in.
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"The Dick Cavett Show."
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On tonight's program,
from "Minx" magazine,
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Editor Joyce Prigger.
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Most of you are aware by now
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of the Women's Liberation Movement.
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A lot of women in this
country feel that,
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well, society isn't exactly
fair in its treatment of them.
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They're tired of being
pushed around
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and they want things to change.
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I'd like to bring
out someone who has
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a somewhat unique
point of view on all this.
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She's the editor
of "Minx" magazine,
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which, if you haven't
figured by now,
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is not about semiaquatic,
carnivorous mammals.
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I'd show you more,
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but they'd cancel my show
if I did.
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The magazine has taken
the publishing world by storm,
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selling out its second issue
in a matter of days.
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But is it feminist?
Is it pornography?
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Can it be both?
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Let's find out.
Please welcome Joyce Prigger.
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- Welcome.
- Hello. Thank you.
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It seems like
you've got some fans.
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Well, women can be loud
when they use their voices.
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- It's not so scary, is it?
- I'm afraid of everything.
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I'm what'd you call
an equal opportunity wimp.
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Don t sell yourself short, Dick.
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With our photographer,
even you could be a "Minx" man.
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I don't think
the world is ready for that.
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What do you say?
You wanna take a peek
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behind Dick Cavett's curtains?
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Okay, okay.
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Who's interviewing who here?
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Are you gunning
for my job, lady?
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A female talk show host?
I think it's about time.
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If I can do it, anyone can.
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So how did you
get into all this?
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You've got this
straight-laced background.
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Went to a fancy college.
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I mean, as a little girl,
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is this where you imagined
you'd be?
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Well, Dick,
in my childhood fantasy,
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I was on "Ed Sullivan,"
not here.
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And then Sven
throws me this look like,
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"Oops, sorry but not sorry."
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A hundred bucks
this Sven character
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- tries to sleep with you.
- He already did.
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Maybe I'd like life
on the commune.
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You wouldn't last a single day.
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You smell nice.
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You bought my shampoo for me.
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I mean, you're here enough.
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So you went all the way
down to Bigelow to get it?
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Yeah... sent Francine.
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Poor Francine.
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You know,
I really think this piece
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is gonna cause a seismic shift.
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Nobody's writing about
gender dynamics
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within the anti-war movement.
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These are good liberals
who are just awful to women.
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I think it's gonna make
a lot of people uncomfortable.
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Not as uncomfortable
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as that ratty pantry mattress,
I hope.
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Listen, I am more than
willing to suffer
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for a good story.
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My guess is you probably
make it.
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Probably?
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Indubitably.
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And so I say
to this councilwoman,
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"If you're gonna plaster
my face all over the place
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"on signs with devil horns,
then at least
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use a picture from
my good side, you know?"
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It's this one.
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And all that negativity,
that didn't get to you?
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A lot of people would
just curl up and hide.
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- Points. Points.
- Yeah, excuse me.
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- Excuse me. Sorry.
- Sorry. Sorry.
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- Excuse me.
- Didn't see you.
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Excuse me.
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You've got this arm our
that protects you from critics.
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That'll do it.
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Secondly, I would say,
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if it bothers you, don't buy it.
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- Hello.
- I'm sorry.
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I thought this...
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Wait a second. I recognize you.
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You're Simone de B... no.
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That French name
I can't pronounce.
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That's not you? Germaine Greer?
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Closer.
She's Australian and a friend.
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Victoria Hartnett.
254
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"Suffering Suffragettes." Yeah.
255
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Joyce had me read it.
256
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- I gotta say, not bad.
- Why, thank you.
257
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Nothing quite damns
like faint praise.
258
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Doug Renetti.
259
00:10:38,721 --> 00:10:40,222
Publisher of "Minx."
260
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The wretched pornographer.
- I prefer "vile."
261
00:10:42,475 --> 00:10:44,036
Well, I have to give you
credit, Mr. Renetti.
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I don't know a lot of men
who'd stand back here
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and let her
be the one out there.
264
00:10:47,605 --> 00:10:49,333
Well, I'm a good businessman
265
00:10:49,357 --> 00:10:51,460
and she's good for business.
266
00:10:51,484 --> 00:10:52,836
She's come a long way, that one.
267
00:10:52,860 --> 00:10:54,820
And from where did she travel?
268
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I don't wanna say from nowhere,
269
00:10:56,155 --> 00:10:57,435
but that technically wouldn't be
270
00:10:57,490 --> 00:10:58,550
the wrong address with her.
271
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And then came you. Do tell.
272
00:11:01,327 --> 00:11:03,722
And maybe, just maybe,
they will find the strength
273
00:11:03,746 --> 00:11:05,539
in other parts
of their life as well.
274
00:11:05,623 --> 00:11:08,060
Or they'll just
blush and giggle.
275
00:11:08,084 --> 00:11:09,603
We'll be right back.
276
00:11:09,627 --> 00:11:11,045
So far, so good.
277
00:11:12,922 --> 00:11:14,733
So are you guys going
open and official?
278
00:11:14,757 --> 00:11:16,842
Secret office romance?
What's the play this time?
279
00:11:16,926 --> 00:11:19,488
What about Calvin?
He had that sexy insurance job.
280
00:11:19,512 --> 00:11:20,864
Snooze, Richie.
281
00:11:20,888 --> 00:11:22,783
Tina deserves more
than life insurance.
282
00:11:22,807 --> 00:11:24,326
She deserves adventure.
283
00:11:24,350 --> 00:11:26,852
So then date a pirate
or Evel Knievel.
284
00:11:26,936 --> 00:11:28,580
Doug's kind of both.
285
00:11:28,604 --> 00:11:31,083
I guess I like a cheap thrill.
286
00:11:31,107 --> 00:11:34,795
I get it, but it really does
feel different this time.
287
00:11:34,819 --> 00:11:37,446
So he's dealt
with his childhood trauma?
288
00:11:37,530 --> 00:11:38,864
His two ex-wives?
289
00:11:38,948 --> 00:11:40,282
Tina, I just wanna
see you happy.
290
00:11:40,366 --> 00:11:42,535
Good, because I am.
291
00:11:44,537 --> 00:11:46,098
You're a natural.
292
00:11:46,122 --> 00:11:48,874
I wasn't joking before.
You play your cards right,
293
00:11:48,958 --> 00:11:50,602
you're going to have options.
294
00:11:50,626 --> 00:11:52,253
That's good for now. Thanks.
295
00:11:56,757 --> 00:11:58,259
I turned in my draft
this morning.
296
00:11:59,677 --> 00:12:03,013
I pulled an all-nighter
polishing.
297
00:12:03,097 --> 00:12:04,533
God, I am sweating.
298
00:12:04,557 --> 00:12:06,660
I'm also cold, you know,
and nauseated.
299
00:12:06,684 --> 00:12:08,185
I'm seeing spots as well.
300
00:12:08,269 --> 00:12:09,788
I should not have had
that second cup of tea.
301
00:12:09,812 --> 00:12:12,356
Here. Eat something.
I'm sure it's great.
302
00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,544
You are a better writer
that 95% of these meatballs.
303
00:12:15,568 --> 00:12:16,962
You know,
it's only a matter of time
304
00:12:16,986 --> 00:12:18,362
before George
gives you a byline.
305
00:12:18,446 --> 00:12:20,364
You are so beyond a researcher.
306
00:12:20,448 --> 00:12:23,552
- We both are.
- Thank you.
307
00:12:23,576 --> 00:12:25,095
It's just...
308
00:12:25,119 --> 00:12:27,222
It's so hard to tell
what he's thinking, you know?
309
00:12:27,246 --> 00:12:29,433
He was profoundly encouraging
when I told him that
310
00:12:29,457 --> 00:12:30,934
I wanted to do it,
but then when I turned it in...
311
00:12:30,958 --> 00:12:32,644
He did that noncommittal
George thing
312
00:12:32,668 --> 00:12:34,795
where he gets really quiet
and his eyes narrow
313
00:12:34,879 --> 00:12:36,398
and you can't tell
if he's thinking about
314
00:12:36,422 --> 00:12:37,506
you or his lunch?
- Yes.
315
00:12:37,590 --> 00:12:39,091
Men are so good at that.
316
00:12:39,175 --> 00:12:41,236
All I want in life
is for people to look at me,
317
00:12:41,260 --> 00:12:42,803
have no idea what I'm thinking,
318
00:12:42,887 --> 00:12:44,990
and then be really worried.
319
00:12:45,014 --> 00:12:46,533
Yeah. I think that's right.
320
00:12:46,557 --> 00:12:48,225
Just crop in on her
a little bit.
321
00:12:48,309 --> 00:12:50,352
And make sure
that we can see her face.
322
00:12:51,353 --> 00:12:52,873
.
323
00:12:52,897 --> 00:12:54,857
Who doesn't love
a good office fling?
324
00:12:58,194 --> 00:13:01,131
In five, four,
325
00:13:01,155 --> 00:13:04,176
three, two...
326
00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,552
Welcome back.
327
00:13:05,576 --> 00:13:07,679
We're talking about
feminism and pornography,
328
00:13:07,703 --> 00:13:09,121
and we're having a good time.
329
00:13:09,205 --> 00:13:10,474
We're having a good time, right?
330
00:13:10,498 --> 00:13:11,558
A great time, Dick.
331
00:13:11,582 --> 00:13:12,791
So glad to hear it.
332
00:13:12,875 --> 00:13:14,853
I wanna expand the conversation.
333
00:13:14,877 --> 00:13:16,128
Bring out another guest.
334
00:13:16,212 --> 00:13:18,982
She's probably America's
foremost voice
335
00:13:19,006 --> 00:13:20,317
on women's issues.
336
00:13:20,341 --> 00:13:22,277
An author. An advocate.
337
00:13:22,301 --> 00:13:23,862
She's been a guest here
a number of times
338
00:13:23,886 --> 00:13:26,490
and just, well,
a really smart lady.
339
00:13:26,514 --> 00:13:28,200
Please welcome,
Victoria Hartnett.
340
00:13:28,224 --> 00:13:30,351
My God.
341
00:13:32,895 --> 00:13:35,856
My God. This is such an honor.
342
00:13:35,940 --> 00:13:37,709
Really this is...
343
00:13:37,733 --> 00:13:39,294
Well, will you look at this?
344
00:13:39,318 --> 00:13:42,154
I didn't even know academics
could have groupies.
345
00:13:42,238 --> 00:13:44,990
I've only spent
my entire senior year
346
00:13:45,074 --> 00:13:46,992
reading and rereading
347
00:13:47,076 --> 00:13:48,470
"The Whore of Babylon
Revisited."
348
00:13:48,494 --> 00:13:49,763
That work is just...
349
00:13:49,787 --> 00:13:51,455
It's seminal.
- Thank you.
350
00:13:51,539 --> 00:13:53,707
It cost me my first marriage,
so I'm glad someone
351
00:13:53,791 --> 00:13:55,251
got something
positive out of it.
352
00:13:56,752 --> 00:13:58,772
I brought Victoria on
because, you know,
353
00:13:58,796 --> 00:14:01,423
we like to have
a variety of viewpoints.
354
00:14:01,507 --> 00:14:03,425
Makes for more interesting conversation.
355
00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:07,429
And, well, let me just ask,
what do you think of "Minx"?
356
00:14:07,513 --> 00:14:10,075
Well, first of all,
let me say I admire
357
00:14:10,099 --> 00:14:13,143
any woman who pushes
society's expectations
358
00:14:13,227 --> 00:14:16,039
of what they can and cannot
do or be,
359
00:14:16,063 --> 00:14:17,374
so brava.
- Thank you.
360
00:14:17,398 --> 00:14:19,441
But I think a magazine
like "Minx"
361
00:14:19,525 --> 00:14:23,505
is harmful to the cause,
maybe even a little insidious.
362
00:14:23,529 --> 00:14:26,031
We have a serious agenda
for women
363
00:14:26,115 --> 00:14:28,677
in this nation, on this planet.
- Absolutely.
364
00:14:28,701 --> 00:14:30,744
Then why are we blathering about
365
00:14:30,828 --> 00:14:33,122
penises and pornographers?
366
00:14:34,123 --> 00:14:37,269
- - I...
- I write about critical issues.
367
00:14:37,293 --> 00:14:39,813
Yes, you do, superficially.
368
00:14:39,837 --> 00:14:43,048
But even that is drowned
in a sea of salaciousness.
369
00:14:43,132 --> 00:14:45,068
Salaciousness?
370
00:14:45,092 --> 00:14:47,279
There are a few
naked pictures, sure,
371
00:14:47,303 --> 00:14:50,180
but there are pages and pages
of serious content.
372
00:14:50,264 --> 00:14:51,640
Listen, my dear,
373
00:14:51,724 --> 00:14:53,118
I'm sure your heart
is in the right place
374
00:14:53,142 --> 00:14:54,953
and I wouldn't call you a victim
375
00:14:54,977 --> 00:14:57,771
but, in a sense,
you have been used.
376
00:14:59,732 --> 00:15:01,483
This might be why they say
you don't wanna
377
00:15:01,567 --> 00:15:03,545
meet your heroes.
- Not helpful, Dick.
378
00:15:03,569 --> 00:15:05,654
Your content is cover
379
00:15:05,738 --> 00:15:07,489
for a very clever businessman
380
00:15:07,573 --> 00:15:11,720
to expand into an enormous
untapped market for pornography
381
00:15:11,744 --> 00:15:15,956
to sell cigarettes and alcohol
and automobiles to women.
382
00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,560
And to add insult to injury,
383
00:15:18,584 --> 00:15:20,437
you've been hired as editor
384
00:15:20,461 --> 00:15:23,607
but only been given
the illusion of control.
385
00:15:23,631 --> 00:15:25,799
I don't know what... no. Okay, no.
386
00:15:25,883 --> 00:15:28,093
I mean, look,
the magazine is mine.
387
00:15:28,177 --> 00:15:29,321
Your publisher might
388
00:15:29,345 --> 00:15:30,989
have a different opinion
on that.
389
00:15:31,013 --> 00:15:33,515
Well, this conversation
has certainly gotten spicier.
390
00:15:33,599 --> 00:15:35,160
We're gonna take a quick break
391
00:15:35,184 --> 00:15:37,770
and see if we can't
sort this all out.
392
00:15:41,732 --> 00:15:43,126
- What is going on here, Doug?
- I don't know.
393
00:15:43,150 --> 00:15:44,461
I don't know what
she's talking about.
394
00:15:44,485 --> 00:15:45,837
But just stay in it. Stay calm.
395
00:15:45,861 --> 00:15:47,047
Don't take the bait
and counter punch.
396
00:15:47,071 --> 00:15:48,405
But I'm not some pugilist.
397
00:15:48,489 --> 00:15:49,883
This is my life here. My work.
And she's...
398
00:15:49,907 --> 00:15:51,533
Miss Prigger.
We need you for some
399
00:15:51,617 --> 00:15:52,761
touch-ups real quick.
- No, I'm fine. I don't...
400
00:15:52,785 --> 00:15:54,137
Just a small sweat issue.
401
00:15:54,161 --> 00:15:55,472
You know, the camera adds
a bit of a glimmer
402
00:15:55,496 --> 00:15:56,830
when the lights get hot.
403
00:15:56,914 --> 00:15:58,183
Stay in the fight.
Stay in the fight.
404
00:15:58,207 --> 00:15:59,643
- Mr. Renetti?
- Yeah.
405
00:15:59,667 --> 00:16:01,061
Can our producer
talk to you for a second?
406
00:16:01,085 --> 00:16:02,544
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Welcome back.
407
00:16:02,628 --> 00:16:04,189
We've been having
a spirited conversation
408
00:16:04,213 --> 00:16:05,357
about naked men.
409
00:16:05,381 --> 00:16:07,651
Boy, this is a weird job sometimes.
410
00:16:07,675 --> 00:16:09,903
Is a magazine full of them
a feminist act
411
00:16:09,927 --> 00:16:12,739
or just a nasty ploy
to distract the ladies,
412
00:16:12,763 --> 00:16:15,015
get them to stop asking
for raises and stuff?
413
00:16:15,099 --> 00:16:17,869
Reductive, Dick,
but not inaccurate.
414
00:16:17,893 --> 00:16:19,204
The male publisher of "Minx"
415
00:16:19,228 --> 00:16:21,206
has come up a few times
in conversation.
416
00:16:21,230 --> 00:16:23,565
He's here tonight.
I wanna have him out
417
00:16:23,649 --> 00:16:25,043
and see what he has to say.
418
00:16:25,067 --> 00:16:27,069
Please welcome
Douglas J. Renetti.
419
00:16:28,946 --> 00:16:31,198
What an honor.
420
00:16:32,950 --> 00:16:34,451
Someone's got some pep
in his step.
421
00:16:34,535 --> 00:16:35,929
Well, I'm excited to be here.
I love New York.
422
00:16:35,953 --> 00:16:37,764
The energy, the dirt, all of it.
423
00:16:37,788 --> 00:16:39,099
Have you been to Times Square?
424
00:16:39,123 --> 00:16:40,392
A man in your profession
might need to,
425
00:16:40,416 --> 00:16:42,167
I wanna say "peep"
the competition.
426
00:16:42,251 --> 00:16:44,062
Very funny.
No, I come here on business.
427
00:16:44,086 --> 00:16:45,772
Meeting with advertisers,
that sort of thing.
428
00:16:45,796 --> 00:16:47,816
And have you always been
in adult entertainment?
429
00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,300
No, I started with a few
penny savers, coupon clippers.
430
00:16:50,384 --> 00:16:52,761
And I saw an opportunity,
so I got a small loan
431
00:16:52,845 --> 00:16:54,906
and I busted my butt,
title by title.
432
00:16:54,930 --> 00:16:57,409
You're looking at
the American dream, Dick,
433
00:16:57,433 --> 00:16:59,351
in the flesh.
434
00:16:59,435 --> 00:17:00,829
I couldn't have
said it better myself.
435
00:17:00,853 --> 00:17:02,247
Kind of wish I did.
436
00:17:02,271 --> 00:17:03,915
Now, you've been following
our conversation.
437
00:17:03,939 --> 00:17:07,192
Just who's in control
of your magazine, you, Joyce?
438
00:17:07,276 --> 00:17:09,087
Well, we share
a dynamic partnership.
439
00:17:09,111 --> 00:17:10,922
I think Joyce would
say the same thing.
440
00:17:10,946 --> 00:17:13,782
At Bottom Dollar, we share an
"all hands on deck" philosophy.
441
00:17:13,866 --> 00:17:15,385
Right?
- Yup.
442
00:17:15,409 --> 00:17:17,137
But the buck has gotta
stop somewhere.
443
00:17:17,161 --> 00:17:19,264
Doug would never overstep
into editorial, no.
444
00:17:19,288 --> 00:17:21,790
He has suggestions,
like all publishers,
445
00:17:21,874 --> 00:17:23,810
but "Minx" is under
my direction.
446
00:17:23,834 --> 00:17:27,272
Mr. Renetti was actually
regaling me backstage
447
00:17:27,296 --> 00:17:30,340
with plans for a future issue
for your magazine.
448
00:17:30,424 --> 00:17:31,675
Stop it now.
449
00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:34,052
We were just gabbing
pro to pro. You know it.
450
00:17:34,136 --> 00:17:35,697
Don't play humble now,
Mr. Renetti.
451
00:17:35,721 --> 00:17:37,222
You were very, very proud.
452
00:17:37,306 --> 00:17:39,106
You were beaming, even,
about your next cover.
453
00:17:39,141 --> 00:17:40,410
No. We have not settled
454
00:17:40,434 --> 00:17:41,745
on the cover
for our next issue, no.
455
00:17:41,769 --> 00:17:42,954
That's correct. No, we haven't.
456
00:17:42,978 --> 00:17:44,247
We are in the early stages,
457
00:17:44,271 --> 00:17:45,522
just talking to people.
458
00:17:45,606 --> 00:17:46,982
Well, we love process here.
459
00:17:47,066 --> 00:17:49,651
Love to see how
the sausage gets made.
460
00:17:49,735 --> 00:17:51,236
I'm sorry. I couldn't help it.
461
00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:52,464
I'm just a...
- That was good. That was good.
462
00:17:52,488 --> 00:17:53,965
Comic at heart, people.
463
00:17:53,989 --> 00:17:56,241
But we also happen to
have quite a few readers
464
00:17:56,325 --> 00:17:57,719
in the audience...
People who might be
465
00:17:57,743 --> 00:17:59,103
interested in what you have
on tap.
466
00:18:00,746 --> 00:18:03,248
Unless you don't like
free advertising, Mr. Renetti.
467
00:18:03,332 --> 00:18:05,018
You know I love
free advertising.
468
00:18:05,042 --> 00:18:06,543
And thank you
to all the readers.
469
00:18:06,627 --> 00:18:08,188
There's nothing to...
To share right now.
470
00:18:08,212 --> 00:18:10,255
Perhaps we could let
the cat out of the bag
471
00:18:10,339 --> 00:18:11,840
a little bit.
- There's no cat.
472
00:18:11,924 --> 00:18:13,026
Considering...
There might be a cat.
473
00:18:13,050 --> 00:18:14,611
There might be a big cat.
474
00:18:14,635 --> 00:18:16,446
I can get you a drumroll.
Do you wanna a drumroll?
475
00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:17,864
- No.
- Yeah.
476
00:18:17,888 --> 00:18:19,282
- No. We don't need a drumroll.
- Bobby, hit it!
477
00:18:19,306 --> 00:18:20,992
Doug, you don't need a drumroll.
478
00:18:21,016 --> 00:18:22,744
- I don't need a drumroll.
- He doesn't need a drumroll
479
00:18:22,768 --> 00:18:24,287
'cause there's nothing
to reveal.
480
00:18:24,311 --> 00:18:26,164
Ladies and gentlemen!
481
00:18:26,188 --> 00:18:28,625
In the next "Minx"
and on the cover,
482
00:18:28,649 --> 00:18:30,984
posing in all
his God-given glory
483
00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:33,737
will be America's favourite quarterback,
484
00:18:33,821 --> 00:18:35,757
Billy Brunson, "The GOAT"!
485
00:18:35,781 --> 00:18:37,509
We got Billy Brunson!
486
00:18:37,533 --> 00:18:39,052
We got him.
487
00:18:39,076 --> 00:18:40,762
This is exciting.
488
00:18:40,786 --> 00:18:43,223
And you heard it here first.
- There's... there's other...
489
00:18:43,247 --> 00:18:46,291
Like I always say,
the best truths are naked ones.
490
00:18:54,383 --> 00:18:56,069
They grow up so fast.
491
00:18:56,093 --> 00:18:57,719
It's no big deal.
492
00:18:57,803 --> 00:19:00,323
Mr. McKnight, youngest writer
ever to land a cover.
493
00:19:00,347 --> 00:19:02,200
Someone has indubitably made it.
494
00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:03,493
Let me see that. Let me see.
495
00:19:03,517 --> 00:19:04,893
Pass it around. Pass it around.
496
00:19:04,977 --> 00:19:07,187
Sweetie, it's not all bad news.
497
00:19:07,271 --> 00:19:08,623
You were obviously
on the right track.
498
00:19:08,647 --> 00:19:11,209
They used your idea. Sort of.
499
00:19:11,233 --> 00:19:14,611
A thoughtful, original article
500
00:19:14,695 --> 00:19:16,214
about misogyny in the movement
501
00:19:16,238 --> 00:19:18,740
has been transmogrified
into this
502
00:19:18,824 --> 00:19:20,969
pat profile of cavalier elites
503
00:19:20,993 --> 00:19:23,495
written by some cavalier elite
504
00:19:23,579 --> 00:19:24,746
who wasn't even there,
505
00:19:24,830 --> 00:19:26,164
who didn't have to get the eggs!
506
00:19:26,248 --> 00:19:28,643
The hen house
does sound terrifying.
507
00:19:28,667 --> 00:19:31,855
This magazine is not interested
in those details.
508
00:19:31,879 --> 00:19:33,565
But you survive here,
509
00:19:33,589 --> 00:19:36,067
it just might get you
to someplace that is.
510
00:19:36,091 --> 00:19:38,820
He didn't even give me
any feedback.
511
00:19:38,844 --> 00:19:41,638
You know, he just...
He just took it
512
00:19:41,722 --> 00:19:44,766
and he just made it
into something else.
513
00:19:44,850 --> 00:19:46,602
God, I'm such an idiot.
514
00:19:49,563 --> 00:19:50,772
I'm gonna talk to him.
515
00:19:50,856 --> 00:19:52,190
Joyce.
516
00:19:56,194 --> 00:19:57,821
A little something
for the road ahead.
517
00:19:57,905 --> 00:20:01,301
You shouldn't have.
518
00:20:01,325 --> 00:20:02,951
I sent Francine.
519
00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:07,974
Before you say anything,
520
00:20:07,998 --> 00:20:10,018
I was backed into a corner.
- Yeah, right.
521
00:20:10,042 --> 00:20:13,396
The whole thing was staged.
Great television, Doug.
522
00:20:13,420 --> 00:20:16,316
When did they tell you about
Victoria Hartnett, back in LA?
523
00:20:16,340 --> 00:20:17,567
What are you talking about?
524
00:20:17,591 --> 00:20:18,967
I didn't know anything about it.
525
00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:20,385
Okay. And then the Billy bomb.
526
00:20:20,469 --> 00:20:21,988
Completely spontaneous.
- Yes, it was.
527
00:20:22,012 --> 00:20:24,389
You got the lights, you got
people staring, the band.
528
00:20:24,473 --> 00:20:25,974
He's got an orchestra, Joyce.
529
00:20:26,058 --> 00:20:27,577
What I'm gonna do,
say no to a drumroll?
530
00:20:27,601 --> 00:20:28,977
No one's ever done that ever.
531
00:20:29,061 --> 00:20:30,812
Doug Renetti, a leaf on a stream
532
00:20:30,896 --> 00:20:32,415
being merrily carried along.
533
00:20:32,439 --> 00:20:34,816
"Wherever will it take me next?"
534
00:20:34,900 --> 00:20:36,401
I screwed up, okay?
535
00:20:36,485 --> 00:20:38,338
But I swear I didn't know
anything about the other guest.
536
00:20:38,362 --> 00:20:39,988
- Please. And Billy?
- Fine.
537
00:20:40,072 --> 00:20:41,990
I took a flyer with
an old PR contact
538
00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:43,635
and I got a meeting with Billy,
okay?
539
00:20:43,659 --> 00:20:45,994
But I did not think
that Billy was gonna show.
540
00:20:46,078 --> 00:20:48,431
And I definitely didn't think
he was gonna say yes.
541
00:20:48,455 --> 00:20:51,250
And that's the truth.
542
00:20:52,334 --> 00:20:55,146
It was wrong of me to do any
of this without consulting you.
543
00:20:55,170 --> 00:20:58,256
It was wrong of you
to do any of this, period!
544
00:20:58,340 --> 00:21:00,592
You know, men like you,
you're an eclipse.
545
00:21:00,676 --> 00:21:02,844
You don't mean to do it
but you can't help
546
00:21:02,928 --> 00:21:06,264
- but just block out the sun!
- So you're the sun now?
547
00:21:06,348 --> 00:21:07,784
You're the giver of life?
548
00:21:07,808 --> 00:21:09,911
Joyce, let me explain
something to you.
549
00:21:09,935 --> 00:21:12,270
We are on an incredible
hot streak.
550
00:21:12,354 --> 00:21:14,040
Out third issue is gonna have
551
00:21:14,064 --> 00:21:16,167
the 11th highest circulation
of any magazine.
552
00:21:16,191 --> 00:21:17,752
- Yes, thanks to whom?
- Let me finish!
553
00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:19,212
Thanks to my work.
Thanks to my work.
554
00:21:19,236 --> 00:21:20,463
Three issues!
555
00:21:20,487 --> 00:21:23,448
We are changing the game, Joyce.
556
00:21:23,532 --> 00:21:26,868
And I'm not gonna apologize
to you or to anybody
557
00:21:26,952 --> 00:21:29,681
for playing it like
a goddamn all-star.
558
00:21:29,705 --> 00:21:33,476
And if you don't like my sports
analogy, tough
559
00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:35,353
It's my ball.
560
00:21:35,377 --> 00:21:38,630
My rules. You get it?
561
00:21:40,590 --> 00:21:42,634
Yeah.
562
00:21:45,929 --> 00:21:48,408
This is everything you'll need
for issue three of "Minx,"
563
00:21:48,432 --> 00:21:49,993
save for the centerfold,
564
00:21:50,017 --> 00:21:52,245
which you have
already taken care of.
565
00:21:52,269 --> 00:21:56,666
I believe that fulfills
the terms of our agreement.
566
00:21:56,690 --> 00:21:58,483
Stop it.
You're not leaving like this.
567
00:21:58,567 --> 00:22:00,378
You care too much.
- I thought I had done enough
568
00:22:00,402 --> 00:22:02,422
to earn your respect,
but I will not allow
569
00:22:02,446 --> 00:22:04,781
people to treat me this way.
Not any more.
570
00:22:04,865 --> 00:22:06,825
Listen, J...
571
00:22:22,299 --> 00:22:24,384
- I got it. I'll do the rest.
- Okay.
572
00:22:24,468 --> 00:22:25,927
- You sure?
- Yeah.
573
00:22:27,846 --> 00:22:29,431
- Love you.
- You too.
574
00:22:34,770 --> 00:22:38,774
- It'll be fine, right?
- Sure.
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