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Man, you know, who says
you need to buy a guitar?
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It's like a piece of sculpture.
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Wonderful span of wood varnish.
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The whole aroma of it.
Like a woman, you know?
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You can caress it like a woman.
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Every element,
the wood, the finish,
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and all the different aspects
are there in the sound.
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Electric conveys,
like, amplification, energy.
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It's all part
and parcel of who I am,
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is playing the electric
guitar and bonding with it.
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It's gonna be very interesting.
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It's gonna be very interesting
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because both are really, really
strong character guitarists.
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Both White Stripes and Zeppelin
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were able to do something that
was their own, was unique,
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and had never been done before.
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When the three of us get
together, what's gonna happen?
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Probably a fistfight.
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There's a lot of
soul in this guitar.
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When Jack plays it,
it just goes wild.
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This is Edge's main...
His main enchilada.
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This is the brain
of the system.
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It's going to be interesting to
see him layering his effects.
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He's known to be
a sort of sonic architect.
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I plan to trick
both of these guys.
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That's basically
what I'm gonna do.
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Trick them into teaching
me all their tricks.
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We're going there
to have a chat.
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But it just so happens
that the instruments
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are sort of there
as well, so who knows?
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What's this, Edge?
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It's a little...
It's a form of yoga.
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It's, uh...
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It actually was
devised in Wales.
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It's called Daboke.
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Are you... What's the
BlackBerry to do with it?
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It's just a little
adaptation I've made
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just to make
better use of time.
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Does Sting do this?
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He doesn't do Daboke, he does
some other kind of yoga.
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I'm very interested
in what hardware can do
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to an electric guitar sound.
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I love effects units.
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They've always
pushed music forward.
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When he pushes a button...
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Let's say that button addresses
that unit, you know?
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This button
addresses that unit.
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And it's very rarely
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that he will use the same sound
ever again in 20, 23 songs.
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The guitars are set per song
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with their output levels.
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They're dedicated for that song
and that guitar level is...
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He sets his effects to receive
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that guitar level
in a particular way.
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I drive everyone crazy.
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I drive myself totally crazy,
trying to get the sound
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that I can hear in my head
to come out of the speakers.
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It's my voice,
that is my voice,
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what's coming out
of the speaker.
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That'd be wicked.
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Take out the TC.
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Technology is a big destroyer
of emotion and truth.
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Opportunity doesn't do
anything for creativity.
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Yeah, it makes it easier,
and you can get home sooner,
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but it doesn't make you
a more creative person.
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♪ And I don't worry
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♪ Because I'm sitting
on top of the world!
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That's the disease you have to
fight in any creative field.
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Ease of use.
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♪ Worked all the summer
Worked all the fall
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♪ And I had to take
Christmas in my overalls
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♪ 'Cause now she's gone
And I don't worry
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All right, sing it.
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♪ Because I'm sitting
on top of the world!
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Yeah, that's it.
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By the time I'm getting
into teenage years,
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like, late '80s
and things like that,
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I don't remember that many
rock 'n' roll bands
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being around
that were that popular.
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Things were changing
so much in music.
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The technology was
taking over so much.
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Technology was heavily
distracting everybody.
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I mean, people
started spending weeks
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trying to get
the perfect snare drum
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and gated reverb sound.
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♪ Because I'm sittin'
on top of the world! ♪
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That's right.
That's right.
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So processed, it wasn't
real at all anymore.
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Just go up top.
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If you really want to get
girls to pay attention
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kick that chair out like...
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♪ Yeah, she's gone
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♪ And I don't worry
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♪ Because I'm sittin'
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♪ On top of the world ♪
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Because of the amplification
and the tactile quality of it,
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you can hear the very, sort of,
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characteristics of each player.
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People have just tried to stretch the
limits, come up with new techniques.
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There's always something new that other
people are bringing to the table
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that is to be reckoned
with very seriously.
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Dynamics,
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light and shade,
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whisper to the thunder,
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sort of invite you in,
sort of intoxicating.
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Well, the thing
that fascinates me about it,
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and always has about the six strings,
no one has ever approached...
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They all play in
a different way and,
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you know, their personality
comes through.
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During my time as a
songwriter and performer,
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I've kind of watched and felt that
I was seeing the end of the guitar
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as a kind of focus
for popular music.
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And yet every time I think
it's kind of counted out,
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it flares up somewhere else.
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I keep guitars that are, you know...
The neck's a little bit bent,
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and it's a little
bit out of tune,
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and I want to
work and battle it
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and conquer it
and make it express
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whatever attitude
I have at that moment.
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I want it to be a struggle.
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I have no idea
what these are, but...
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My early demos
were real sketches.
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They weren't fully fleshed out.
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That's interesting.
That ended up...
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It's the music that tells us the
direction the song should go.
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As writers,
we start with the feeling
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and everything
follows from that.
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These guitar parts ended up
in the final version,
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so this could be
discovering, you know,
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those particular voicings of
the chords and what have you.
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Four, five, six.
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Four, five, six.
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Bono's actually
calling out the timing.
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That's funny.
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Four, five, six.
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'Cause the first section's in
a different time signature,
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so it was a little bit of a head
trip to go between the two.
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One, two, three,
four, five, six. One...
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But you can count
it in different ways.
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...six. One, two,
three, four, five, six.
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One, two, three,
four, five, six.
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One, two, three,
four, five, six.
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Or you can go, one, two,
three, one, two, three.
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It's like a waltz beat.
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One, two, three,
one, two, three,
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one, two, three,
one, two, three.
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When you start to
treat the sound,
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you start to invoke locations.
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As I'm working, I'm often
thinking about, "Where is this?"
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Where is this location?
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Wow, there was a whole science block
there when I was living here.
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That's amazing.
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We played on a kind of
flat area over there with,
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I wouldn't say
a paying audience...
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We all got up here.
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Larry was back here obviously
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and I think I was on this side.
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You were there?
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Yeah, I was this side, yeah.
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Actually, and have
been ever since.
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This was where we
used to rehearse.
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Now, this is really the very,
very beginning for us, you know.
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So, this was Mr. McKenzie's room,
and he was very nice to us.
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So, rehearsal was 10 minutes of
clearing away desks and chairs,
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and then an hour of
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seeing if we could
get anything together.
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None of us could play
at this point, really.
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For a while, we would come and we
would try and go through songs,
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and it was really bad.
Like, really, really bad.
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♪ I will walk in the wild wind
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♪ I love to stare
I love to watch myself grow
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♪ Someday, maybe tomorrow
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♪ New direction, hello
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♪ Well, I know, know, know
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♪ Well, I know, know, know
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♪ I know, know, know ♪
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The thrill was just being able to
do it even if you did it badly.
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Hello.
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We're always worried
about being satisfied.
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When you become satisfied, it's
sort of like you just die.
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My name is Jack White, and this is my
big sister, Meg White, on the drums.
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Thank you for letting us into your home.
We really appreciate it.
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♪ Well, hey,
little apple blossom
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♪ What seems to be the problem?
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What can I do with three strings
on a guitar instead of six?
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♪ They don't
really care for you
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It takes me
three steps to get over
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to play the organ in the middle of this song.
Put it four steps away,
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then I'll have to run faster and I'll
push myself harder to get to it.
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♪ Yes, and I will come
and rescue you ♪
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♪ One, two, three, four
Take the elevator
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♪ At the Hotel Yorba I'll
be glad to see you later
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♪ All they got
inside is vacancy
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♪ Yes, ma'am ♪
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Meg and I don't even talk about
what the first song's gonna be.
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We just go out and play.
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Think of something fast, hurry
up and think of something,
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because these guys want a show.
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People know
when something's fake
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and they know when something's
rehashed and rehearsed.
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They know when you're telling
the same joke between songs
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that you told in
Poughkeepsie last night.
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They can smell it.
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♪ Well, it's one, two, three,
four Take the elevator
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♪ At the Hotel Yorba I'll
be glad to see you later
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♪ All they got
inside is vacancy
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♪ Yes, ma'am
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I play really old guitars,
plastic guitars.
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♪ It might sound silly
Yeah, for me to think...
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If you want it easy you
buy a brand-new Les Paul
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or a brand-new
Stratocaster.
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♪ Let's get married In a big
cathedral by a priest... ♪
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And this is my main
guitar that I played live
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for my 10 years
in the White Stripes.
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It's a hollow piece of plastic.
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And you got this at Montgomery
Ward's department store.
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Sears sold Silvertones and
Montgomery Ward sold Airlines.
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I want to show you, Jack, what the...
If you just take this and...
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Yeah, that's it.
Pick a fight with it.
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That's what you gotta do. Pick a
fight with it and win the fight.
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He's learning.
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I'd like to introduce
Led Zeppelin to you.
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On bass guitar, John Paul Jones.
This is John Paul Jones.
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On drums, John Bonham.
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Lead guitar, Jimmy Page.
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And myself, Robert Plant.
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We were so comfortable
playing with each other
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that we could take it
in any direction.
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The four members of the band had
taken on this sort of fifth element.
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Passion, honesty
and competence.
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Absolute musical heaven.
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♪ How many more times
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♪ Treat me the way
that you wanna do?
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♪ How many more times
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♪ Treat me the way
that you wanna do? ♪
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Wow.
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Boy, oh, boy, this brings
back some memories.
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Yeah, this is... Well, come
straight into the entrance hall
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and this is the hall
where the drums were set up
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and where Levee Breaks
was recorded.
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We had been recording
in this room here.
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Bonzo had ordered
a new drum kit.
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His tech, you know, his road
manager, had set it up in the hall.
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And when Bonzo came out, he
started playing it in this thing,
245
00:23:42,937 --> 00:23:44,772
and it was this huge expanse.
246
00:23:46,770 --> 00:23:49,700
You're getting the drums
reflecting off of the walls,
247
00:23:49,701 --> 00:23:52,535
you know, this wonderful
ambience to the drums.
248
00:23:55,404 --> 00:23:57,704
Yeah, you can hear the
reflective surfaces.
249
00:23:58,703 --> 00:24:02,535
You know, it's really
live and ambient.
250
00:24:02,536 --> 00:24:05,837
We had a recording truck
parked on the outside here.
251
00:24:05,838 --> 00:24:09,235
And you'd be running the
wires from their cables
252
00:24:09,236 --> 00:24:11,935
with the mic leads, running
them into the house.
253
00:24:11,936 --> 00:24:15,271
The mics were put up here
over the banisters here.
254
00:24:18,268 --> 00:24:21,469
In those days, the drummer
would be in a little booth
255
00:24:21,470 --> 00:24:26,304
so the drums were just
totally, you know, crushed.
256
00:24:27,303 --> 00:24:29,101
This was quite radical.
257
00:24:29,102 --> 00:24:31,669
After this you heard of
other, you know, drummers
258
00:24:32,668 --> 00:24:36,734
and bands looking for lift
shafts and things to record in,
259
00:24:36,735 --> 00:24:37,815
to get the height, you see.
260
00:24:49,436 --> 00:24:53,734
We'd done three albums that
were recorded in the studio.
261
00:24:53,735 --> 00:24:56,458
And this was another approach.
262
00:25:19,435 --> 00:25:22,601
♪ The Queen of Light
took her bow
263
00:25:22,602 --> 00:25:25,103
♪ And then she turned to go
264
00:25:27,101 --> 00:25:30,133
As a kid, what was
going on in the music
265
00:25:30,134 --> 00:25:34,603
was as important to me as what was
going on vocally and lyrically,
266
00:25:34,604 --> 00:25:36,236
and it always was.
267
00:25:37,235 --> 00:25:38,934
♪ Sing to the morning light
268
00:25:38,935 --> 00:25:41,866
♪ The Dark Lord rides
in force tonight
269
00:25:41,867 --> 00:25:45,699
♪ And time will tell us all ♪
270
00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:48,470
Just word of mouth
and grapevines.
271
00:25:50,468 --> 00:25:52,103
Isolation.
272
00:25:54,101 --> 00:25:58,099
We moved house and the guitar
was there, left behind.
273
00:25:58,100 --> 00:25:59,833
It was one of these, sort of,
274
00:25:59,834 --> 00:26:03,565
weird interventions of the
guitar into our family.
275
00:26:03,566 --> 00:26:06,936
It was just like a sort of
ornament left behind at the house.
276
00:26:12,267 --> 00:26:15,166
♪ Gamblin' man, man, man,
Gamblin' man
277
00:26:15,167 --> 00:26:17,866
♪ I'm a gamblin' man, man,
man I'm a gamblin' man
278
00:26:17,867 --> 00:26:20,537
♪ I'm a gamblin' man
279
00:26:23,534 --> 00:26:28,133
For anyone who could play
guitars, they all played skiffle.
280
00:26:28,134 --> 00:26:32,303
That was the sort of community
project at the time.
281
00:26:34,301 --> 00:26:37,669
Played on massive guitars
and washboards.
282
00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:40,969
Local cuisine.
283
00:26:43,966 --> 00:26:48,466
Very, very English.
Pre-rock this is.
284
00:26:48,467 --> 00:26:51,467
♪ I'm a gamblin' man, man,
man I'm a gamblin' man ♪
285
00:26:51,468 --> 00:26:54,165
We all weaned on that music.
286
00:26:54,166 --> 00:26:57,800
It was like a sort of rock 'n'
roll breastfeeding of it.
287
00:26:57,801 --> 00:27:01,799
I went to school one day
after hearing this stuff
288
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,764
and seeing Lonnie Donegan
on the television.
289
00:27:03,765 --> 00:27:04,963
This guy actually had a guitar
290
00:27:05,533 --> 00:27:07,099
and he was playing
Rock Island Line.
291
00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:08,599
It was like, "Wow."
292
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,264
And I said, "I've got
one of those at home."
293
00:27:10,265 --> 00:27:12,731
And he said, "Bring it along and
I'll show you how to tune it."
294
00:27:12,732 --> 00:27:15,664
Well, that was more accessible
to be able to start to play.
295
00:27:15,665 --> 00:27:17,564
Right, you could put a band
together pretty easily.
296
00:27:17,565 --> 00:27:20,098
I mean, you could get to know one
chord and just strum it all day
297
00:27:20,099 --> 00:27:22,365
and be having
a great time, you know.
298
00:27:22,366 --> 00:27:24,501
♪ Well, Mama don't allow
no skiffle down in here
299
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:27,065
♪ Oh, no, she don't
300
00:27:27,066 --> 00:27:31,032
♪ Mama don't allow
no skiffle down in here
301
00:27:31,033 --> 00:27:33,330
♪ Well, we don't care
what Mama don't allow
302
00:27:33,331 --> 00:27:34,769
♪ Gonna play that
skiffle any old how
303
00:27:35,533 --> 00:27:38,429
♪ Mama don't allow
no skiffle down in here
304
00:27:38,430 --> 00:27:42,200
We were a little local band
and we were playing around
305
00:27:42,201 --> 00:27:45,398
school dances, and not
even the slightest,
306
00:27:45,399 --> 00:27:49,396
mildest consideration that
that would go into something.
307
00:27:49,397 --> 00:27:52,230
There wasn't this driving thing,
that the minute you hit your teens,
308
00:27:52,231 --> 00:27:53,602
you gotta be famous.
309
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,399
What are your two
names? Yours is?
310
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,196
- James Page and...
- David Houston.
311
00:27:59,197 --> 00:28:00,666
And you're just learning
to play the guitar?
312
00:28:00,667 --> 00:28:02,698
- Yes, from a teacher.
- From a teacher.
313
00:28:02,699 --> 00:28:04,332
Do you play anything
except skiffle?
314
00:28:04,333 --> 00:28:06,197
Yes, Spanish and dance.
315
00:28:06,198 --> 00:28:08,131
Do you? What are you gonna
do when you leave school?
316
00:28:08,132 --> 00:28:09,330
Take up skiffle?
317
00:28:09,331 --> 00:28:12,276
No, I want to do,
well, biological research.
318
00:28:23,265 --> 00:28:26,837
Dublin in the mid-'70s was really
economically very challenged.
319
00:28:31,832 --> 00:28:33,670
The economy was in the toilet.
320
00:28:38,665 --> 00:28:41,509
We just didn't believe
that anything could change.
321
00:28:53,497 --> 00:28:55,164
There has to be more than this.
322
00:28:55,165 --> 00:29:00,001
This is not the only thing
that is on offer here.
323
00:29:41,530 --> 00:29:43,230
You want to figure out how
you want to play guitar,
324
00:29:43,231 --> 00:29:45,061
what your niche will be.
325
00:29:45,062 --> 00:29:47,365
You just start digging deeper.
326
00:29:48,364 --> 00:29:51,462
When you're digging deeper
into rock 'n' roll,
327
00:29:51,463 --> 00:29:54,129
well, you're on a freight train
headed straight for the blues.
328
00:29:54,130 --> 00:29:59,161
♪ Well, then, come to your
house and he won't stay long
329
00:29:59,162 --> 00:30:02,365
♪ You look in the bed,
you'll find your mother gone
330
00:30:03,364 --> 00:30:09,527
♪ Death don't have
no mercy in this land ♪
331
00:30:09,528 --> 00:30:13,664
1930s, really scary
version of the blues.
332
00:30:15,662 --> 00:30:17,563
If you go back and listen
to some of these songs,
333
00:30:17,564 --> 00:30:23,061
I mean, you can't really believe
that they were even recorded to wax.
334
00:30:23,062 --> 00:30:25,563
Robert Johnson.
Dark Was the Night.
335
00:30:25,564 --> 00:30:27,794
Blind Willie Johnson.
336
00:30:27,795 --> 00:30:30,894
"I asked her for water,
she gave me gasoline."
337
00:30:30,895 --> 00:30:33,331
Minor key,
anti the establishment.
338
00:30:36,328 --> 00:30:39,161
Questioning themselves.
339
00:30:39,162 --> 00:30:40,465
Painful.
340
00:30:43,462 --> 00:30:47,860
There's a tension in that
music that you can feel.
341
00:30:47,861 --> 00:30:50,861
It just feels like there's
this place where, you know,
342
00:30:50,862 --> 00:30:54,905
my soul rests and those
guys were expressing it.
343
00:31:05,894 --> 00:31:08,460
In the Bible,
God cursed the ground,
344
00:31:08,461 --> 00:31:12,229
so that the man will always be...
Will have to work hard.
345
00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:15,226
Whether you're a farmer,
or a carpenter,
346
00:31:15,227 --> 00:31:18,127
or a guitar player,
or whatever it is,
347
00:31:18,128 --> 00:31:20,804
you have to fight
these man-made materials.
348
00:31:29,795 --> 00:31:32,093
Fifteen-minute
guitar solos,
349
00:31:32,094 --> 00:31:35,960
15-minute organ solos
or the drum solos.
350
00:31:35,961 --> 00:31:39,095
There was a huge element
of self-indulgence.
351
00:31:39,096 --> 00:31:44,263
Professional rock musicians who
looked down upon their fans.
352
00:31:45,262 --> 00:31:49,727
Those old colors were dead,
and we wanted none of it.
353
00:31:49,728 --> 00:31:54,193
♪ The bigger the cushion,
the sweeter the pushin'
354
00:31:54,194 --> 00:31:56,127
♪ That's what I said... ♪
355
00:31:56,128 --> 00:31:59,692
Spinal Tap, that's a
movie that I watched.
356
00:31:59,693 --> 00:32:03,331
I didn't laugh, I wept. It
was so close to the truth.
357
00:32:06,328 --> 00:32:09,338
Music really was
searching at that moment.
358
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,993
I'd listen to anything with a guitar
on it when I was a kid, you know...
359
00:33:19,994 --> 00:33:21,125
Yeah.
360
00:33:21,126 --> 00:33:23,025
...that was
being played,
361
00:33:23,026 --> 00:33:25,257
and all those different
approaches and the echoes,
362
00:33:25,258 --> 00:33:28,323
but the first time I heard
the Rumble, it was like...
363
00:33:28,324 --> 00:33:30,991
That was something that had so
much profound attitude to it.
364
00:33:30,992 --> 00:33:32,193
Yeah, it really does.
365
00:33:32,194 --> 00:33:33,529
It really does.
366
00:33:36,526 --> 00:33:42,224
Now he's starting to increase
a vibrato on his amplifier.
367
00:33:42,225 --> 00:33:43,924
You hear...
368
00:33:43,925 --> 00:33:45,451
And it gets more intense.
369
00:34:11,424 --> 00:34:15,324
Most of my day was spent
going through these records,
370
00:34:15,325 --> 00:34:17,924
listening to sounds,
371
00:34:17,925 --> 00:34:20,158
or playing guitar
with the sounds.
372
00:34:24,158 --> 00:34:26,226
I was pulled in
through those speakers.
373
00:34:28,224 --> 00:34:30,126
This wonderful guitar playing.
374
00:34:32,124 --> 00:34:34,957
Got to get to grips with that.
375
00:34:34,958 --> 00:34:36,993
Just two people, bass.
376
00:34:38,991 --> 00:34:41,598
Go home and see
if you can play it.
377
00:34:48,591 --> 00:34:51,724
All these old friends that I
used to visit on a daily,
378
00:34:51,725 --> 00:34:55,794
almost hourly,
almost a per-minute basis.
379
00:34:57,792 --> 00:35:01,223
Okay. Might get loud
for a second.
380
00:35:14,324 --> 00:35:19,031
As kids, we were so experimental
with whatever was around.
381
00:35:26,024 --> 00:35:28,024
Taking stuff apart,
382
00:35:29,023 --> 00:35:32,992
we were always tinkering,
always messing around.
383
00:35:33,991 --> 00:35:38,360
We built a guitar when my
brother was 16. I was 14.
384
00:35:41,357 --> 00:35:45,625
Literally hand-wound the
magnets to make the pickups.
385
00:35:48,622 --> 00:35:50,561
Every little component.
386
00:35:55,556 --> 00:35:59,492
Got wood from Barry
O'Connell's parents' place.
387
00:36:01,490 --> 00:36:05,423
Hand-carved the neck,
hand-carved the body,
388
00:36:05,424 --> 00:36:08,122
sawed the grooves,
put the fret wire in,
389
00:36:08,123 --> 00:36:11,798
every aspect,
and put it together.
390
00:36:19,790 --> 00:36:23,120
I mean, it wasn't the best
guitar that's ever been made,
391
00:36:23,121 --> 00:36:24,302
but it functioned.
392
00:36:37,289 --> 00:36:40,254
Never wanted
to play guitar, ever.
393
00:36:40,255 --> 00:36:42,524
Everyone plays guitar.
394
00:36:43,523 --> 00:36:45,197
What's the point?
395
00:36:53,189 --> 00:36:56,720
I'm the youngest of 10 kids, and
there was just stuff around.
396
00:36:56,721 --> 00:36:58,428
A microscope, a power tool.
397
00:37:04,422 --> 00:37:06,587
When you're in
a family of 10 kids,
398
00:37:06,588 --> 00:37:09,087
I mean, it's just a given. You're
gonna be sharing all day long.
399
00:37:09,088 --> 00:37:12,019
Hand-me-down clothes,
hand-me-down toys.
400
00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:15,253
Different interests, and everyone's
in and out all the time.
401
00:37:15,254 --> 00:37:16,521
Some people
are walking to work,
402
00:37:16,522 --> 00:37:18,087
some people are taking the bus.
403
00:37:18,088 --> 00:37:20,486
Competition, fighting for food.
404
00:37:20,487 --> 00:37:23,957
You push each other over. You
muscle your way into situations.
405
00:37:25,955 --> 00:37:29,520
My brothers, a bunch of
them were musicians,
406
00:37:29,521 --> 00:37:31,329
bass, keyboards, played guitar.
407
00:37:39,321 --> 00:37:43,418
I got really into drumming,
playing along with the records.
408
00:37:43,419 --> 00:37:45,657
Those rhythms
got into me early.
409
00:37:48,654 --> 00:37:53,621
100% only caring
about music and rhythm.
410
00:37:53,622 --> 00:37:57,620
I had a bedroom that was about
seven by seven feet, really small.
411
00:37:57,621 --> 00:37:59,923
There was so much
junk I had collected.
412
00:38:01,921 --> 00:38:05,053
I had two drum sets in there,
413
00:38:05,054 --> 00:38:08,555
a guitar amplifier and a
reel-to-reel and no bed.
414
00:38:08,556 --> 00:38:11,053
I took the bed out.
415
00:38:11,054 --> 00:38:14,105
I slept on a piece of foam
on an angle by the door.
416
00:38:31,088 --> 00:38:33,652
The thing that we started
out with is a clear idea
417
00:38:33,653 --> 00:38:36,486
of what we did not
want to sound like.
418
00:38:36,487 --> 00:38:41,325
Time to bop with the best in rock and
pop on this week's Top of the Pops!
419
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:51,554
Top of the Pops was this
longstanding pop TV show.
420
00:38:52,553 --> 00:38:54,885
Most of it was pretty anemic.
421
00:38:59,588 --> 00:39:04,387
If one out of the 10 items on the
show was cool, you were lucky.
422
00:39:08,652 --> 00:39:12,151
That was the only live music
that we could get to see.
423
00:39:12,152 --> 00:39:14,450
Making their debut on this
week's Top of the Pops,
424
00:39:14,451 --> 00:39:17,253
here's The Jam and
an effervescent new 45.
425
00:39:17,254 --> 00:39:19,120
One, two, three, four!
426
00:39:23,586 --> 00:39:28,218
♪ Anything that you wanna do
Anyplace that you wanna go
427
00:39:28,219 --> 00:39:33,318
♪ Don't need permission for
everything that you want ♪
428
00:39:33,319 --> 00:39:37,983
It was like somebody just lit
the touch paper on this bomb.
429
00:39:37,984 --> 00:39:42,587
So unexpected. I'd never
seen anything like it.
430
00:39:43,586 --> 00:39:45,986
And a hope for a new beginning.
431
00:39:52,586 --> 00:39:53,784
It was like a switch went on.
432
00:39:57,751 --> 00:40:00,983
If we believed fully
in what we were about,
433
00:40:00,984 --> 00:40:05,489
that actually was far more important
than how well you could play.
434
00:40:10,484 --> 00:40:12,150
Our limitations as musicians
435
00:40:12,151 --> 00:40:13,829
were ultimately
not gonna be a problem.
436
00:40:15,718 --> 00:40:17,792
I was like,
"I can do that."
437
00:40:24,785 --> 00:40:26,918
Total commitment,
438
00:40:26,919 --> 00:40:28,982
getting across
what you wanted to say
439
00:40:28,983 --> 00:40:31,316
in as straightforward a way
as possible.
440
00:40:31,317 --> 00:40:34,248
I started inventing chords
to get that sound,
441
00:40:34,249 --> 00:40:35,783
that kind of ringing sound.
442
00:40:35,784 --> 00:40:37,419
Most people play E like this.
443
00:40:39,151 --> 00:40:44,384
Full of a sort of
rich, complex tone,
444
00:40:44,385 --> 00:40:49,650
which is a combination of all the
major elements of the chord.
445
00:40:49,651 --> 00:40:52,914
I always wanted to simplify
it and make it more pure,
446
00:40:52,915 --> 00:40:55,815
and so I found ways
of playing those chords
447
00:40:55,816 --> 00:40:58,085
where I'd eliminate
certain notes.
448
00:41:00,251 --> 00:41:04,183
So there's a more clear sound.
449
00:41:04,184 --> 00:41:08,617
You probably hear it more...
As opposed to...
450
00:41:14,316 --> 00:41:17,652
Really paring it down
to the absolute bare minimum.
451
00:41:18,651 --> 00:41:21,314
When it's so simple, you
can turn it up really loud
452
00:41:21,315 --> 00:41:23,559
and it's got more aggression.
453
00:41:46,316 --> 00:41:47,982
Is it right to the C?
454
00:41:47,983 --> 00:41:49,550
No, actually,
what I meant is...
455
00:41:49,551 --> 00:41:51,050
It can't be.
456
00:41:51,051 --> 00:41:52,432
Yeah.
457
00:42:06,417 --> 00:42:09,300
And then up to the hook.
458
00:42:26,283 --> 00:42:28,249
- Right.
- Are you sure about that C?
459
00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:29,947
- Okay.
- That sounds good, doesn't it?
460
00:42:29,948 --> 00:42:31,849
Sounds great, guys.
Roaring, yeah.
461
00:42:31,850 --> 00:42:33,282
Punk-rock nihilism.
462
00:42:33,283 --> 00:42:35,214
There's a bit of the
punk rock in this man.
463
00:42:35,215 --> 00:42:37,121
I think there's some
punk left in there.
464
00:42:42,116 --> 00:42:43,779
♪ Ya-hee! Icky thump
Who'da thunk?
465
00:42:43,780 --> 00:42:45,616
♪ Sitting drunk
on a wagon to Mexico
466
00:42:46,615 --> 00:42:48,879
♪ Ah, well, what a chump
Well, my head got a bump
467
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,200
♪ When I hit it on the radio ♪
468
00:42:50,549 --> 00:42:53,216
Distortion, anger,
469
00:42:54,215 --> 00:42:56,747
the punk ideal.
470
00:42:56,748 --> 00:42:58,380
Guys or someone
maybe who got picked on,
471
00:42:58,381 --> 00:43:00,380
like a lot of us did,
in high school.
472
00:43:00,381 --> 00:43:04,089
This is our chance to, you
know, push you down now.
473
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:16,980
Southwest Detroit,
a tough town.
474
00:43:16,981 --> 00:43:19,787
It puts up with
a lot and keeps going.
475
00:43:24,781 --> 00:43:29,449
There was very few white
families left in the '80s.
476
00:43:30,448 --> 00:43:32,045
My family
had a stiff upper lip.
477
00:43:32,046 --> 00:43:35,985
Well, we're not leaving. We're not
running away like everybody else.
478
00:43:38,982 --> 00:43:42,978
I lived in an all-Mexican neighborhood.
Mexican Town, it's called.
479
00:43:42,979 --> 00:43:45,280
It was uncool to play guitar.
480
00:43:45,281 --> 00:43:46,945
To play an instrument was
481
00:43:46,946 --> 00:43:50,745
the most embarrassing thing
you could probably make up.
482
00:43:50,746 --> 00:43:54,347
But hip hop and house music, that's
what everyone wanted to hear.
483
00:43:54,348 --> 00:43:58,646
DJs and rappers.
484
00:43:58,647 --> 00:44:02,580
It was very uncool to
actually play an instrument.
485
00:44:02,581 --> 00:44:05,584
There was no record store,
no guitar shop.
486
00:44:08,581 --> 00:44:11,181
Nobody liked rock 'n' roll
or blues music.
487
00:44:16,013 --> 00:44:19,316
♪ Oh, shucks, hush your mouth
488
00:44:20,315 --> 00:44:23,246
♪ Baby, you knockin' me out
489
00:44:23,247 --> 00:44:27,546
♪ I said, "Shucks,
hush your mouth"
490
00:44:27,547 --> 00:44:31,312
♪ Oh, baby,
you're knockin' me out ♪
491
00:44:31,313 --> 00:44:33,345
By the time I'm 15,
492
00:44:33,346 --> 00:44:35,624
I'm playing more and I'm pretty
reasonably accomplished.
493
00:44:38,713 --> 00:44:42,519
Pop music was rubbish, so we
weren't gonna be playing that.
494
00:44:48,513 --> 00:44:53,378
Playing blues music,
music of the Chess catalog,
495
00:44:53,379 --> 00:44:55,082
not going with the flow.
496
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:00,578
Planning winter gigs,
coming out hot,
497
00:45:00,579 --> 00:45:02,178
getting in the back of the van.
498
00:45:02,179 --> 00:45:05,312
There's not proper heating
in the van.
499
00:45:05,313 --> 00:45:08,413
I thought, "This is
getting really tiresome."
500
00:45:09,412 --> 00:45:11,490
Sleeping on the equipment
in the back of the van,
501
00:45:12,413 --> 00:45:15,777
driving to the next gig.
502
00:45:15,778 --> 00:45:21,945
Getting ill,
heavy bouts of influenza.
503
00:45:21,946 --> 00:45:25,378
I just thought, it's like beating
your head against a wall here.
504
00:45:25,379 --> 00:45:27,578
And I figured that it was...
505
00:45:27,579 --> 00:45:31,719
Best thing to do at that
point was actually retire.
506
00:45:37,713 --> 00:45:40,912
So I went to art college.
507
00:45:40,913 --> 00:45:44,745
Just as much
as I wanted to play guitar,
508
00:45:44,746 --> 00:45:46,414
I also wanted to be an artist.
509
00:45:49,411 --> 00:45:51,780
It had always
been something in me.
510
00:45:53,778 --> 00:45:58,611
I wanted to know the techniques
of oil painting, life drawing,
511
00:45:58,612 --> 00:46:01,614
graphic design, sculpture
512
00:46:03,612 --> 00:46:05,979
and the techniques
used by the old masters.
513
00:46:19,044 --> 00:46:22,180
You know, I apprenticed out to a
lot of people when I was younger.
514
00:46:24,178 --> 00:46:27,982
I was an apprentice in an upholstery
shop when I was a teenager.
515
00:46:30,979 --> 00:46:33,176
Brian Muldoon was the master
of the upholstery shop
516
00:46:33,177 --> 00:46:35,943
and he was the one teaching
me, and he played drums.
517
00:46:35,944 --> 00:46:38,609
Well, I guess
I'll play guitar then.
518
00:46:38,610 --> 00:46:40,543
So when we were
done with our workday
519
00:46:40,544 --> 00:46:44,815
we'd move the couches over, and
set up and play in the shop.
520
00:46:48,811 --> 00:46:51,942
Surf and rockabilly, Dick Dale,
521
00:46:51,943 --> 00:46:53,877
and trying to
absorb everything.
522
00:46:54,876 --> 00:46:56,109
He'd pick me up from school.
523
00:46:56,110 --> 00:46:57,841
I'd start tearing down
the furniture,
524
00:46:57,842 --> 00:47:00,943
ripping off fabric and cotton
off of old chairs,
525
00:47:00,944 --> 00:47:04,777
gluing fabric to foam
on weird curves,
526
00:47:04,778 --> 00:47:06,841
tearing off
all of the old fabric.
527
00:47:06,842 --> 00:47:09,160
You can imagine all the stuff
that's inside of a couch.
528
00:47:09,344 --> 00:47:12,947
M&M'S, cereal,
and babies' toys.
529
00:47:16,943 --> 00:47:19,075
Oh, here's how
you sew a welt cord,
530
00:47:19,076 --> 00:47:22,609
or here's how you sew a fly
strip on the back of a decking.
531
00:47:22,610 --> 00:47:24,741
He exposed me to punk music.
532
00:47:24,742 --> 00:47:26,277
The Velvet Underground,
The Cramps.
533
00:47:27,276 --> 00:47:32,576
Really took me under his wing to be an
employee and to play music together.
534
00:47:32,577 --> 00:47:36,374
And then I started writing songs.
We kind of became a band.
535
00:47:36,375 --> 00:47:39,279
We got to put out a record and
we called it The Upholsterers.
536
00:47:41,277 --> 00:47:44,543
So, this song is
Froggy Went a-Courting,
537
00:47:44,544 --> 00:47:46,109
you know, the folk song,
Froggy Went a-Courting.
538
00:47:46,110 --> 00:47:47,242
Mmm-hmm.
539
00:47:48,743 --> 00:47:51,714
But I'd never heard it
like this before though.
540
00:47:54,711 --> 00:47:57,041
I was really into the
drummer first off, I...
541
00:47:57,042 --> 00:47:58,942
♪ Frog went a-courtin'
and he did ride, uh-huh
542
00:47:58,943 --> 00:48:01,176
Oh, yeah.
543
00:48:01,177 --> 00:48:04,475
♪ Frog went a-courtin'
and he did ride, uh-huh
544
00:48:04,476 --> 00:48:05,975
And this right here,
it blew my mind here.
545
00:48:05,976 --> 00:48:08,007
♪ Frog went a-courtin'
and he did ride
546
00:48:08,008 --> 00:48:10,914
♪ With a sword and a pistol
by his side, uh-huh ♪
547
00:48:14,910 --> 00:48:18,041
♪ Well, I caught a crazy lover
548
00:48:18,042 --> 00:48:21,008
♪ Love her, yes, I do ♪
549
00:48:21,009 --> 00:48:25,274
The Flat Duo Jets, two-piece
band from North Carolina.
550
00:48:25,275 --> 00:48:28,381
Guitar, drums and vocals,
just like me and Meg.
551
00:48:33,376 --> 00:48:36,310
I went and saw him play
and I was blown away.
552
00:48:38,308 --> 00:48:40,807
There was nothing on stage.
There was nothing there.
553
00:48:40,808 --> 00:48:44,653
He was using a little 10-watt
amp and Silvertone guitar.
554
00:48:54,642 --> 00:48:57,882
Headed in, what I would have thought
at the time, backwards direction.
555
00:49:04,875 --> 00:49:08,612
I had to reassess what
backwards meant in my mind.
556
00:49:12,608 --> 00:49:15,942
That opened up a whole new
inspiration for me about the guitar.
557
00:49:24,275 --> 00:49:26,717
I started to leave the
drums alone a little bit.
558
00:49:35,708 --> 00:49:38,273
The first guitar I ever bought.
559
00:49:38,274 --> 00:49:40,706
This was, you know,
brand-new when I bought it.
560
00:49:40,707 --> 00:49:42,273
It's just been
with me ever since.
561
00:49:42,274 --> 00:49:46,106
And when we recorded our first
album with Steve Lillywhite,
562
00:49:46,107 --> 00:49:49,272
we were in the studio in Dublin
and we did the backing tracks.
563
00:49:49,273 --> 00:49:51,606
And he said, "You know,
let's do some overdubs
564
00:49:51,607 --> 00:49:53,604
- "with a different guitar."
- Mmm-hmm.
565
00:49:53,607 --> 00:49:55,873
I said, "What do you mean?
566
00:49:55,874 --> 00:49:57,540
"We only have one guitar.
567
00:49:57,541 --> 00:50:01,507
"This is the only guitar
we own in the band."
568
00:50:16,608 --> 00:50:20,778
I was 17, I think,
the summer of '78.
569
00:50:23,775 --> 00:50:27,873
And my family actually
were in New York.
570
00:50:27,874 --> 00:50:29,971
It was like
walking into a movie for me.
571
00:50:29,972 --> 00:50:33,038
I mean, I remember, not only did they
speak like they did in the movies,
572
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:35,107
but the cars looked like
they did in the movies.
573
00:50:36,106 --> 00:50:37,870
That's actually
how people spoke.
574
00:50:37,871 --> 00:50:39,849
That's actually what
the place looked like.
575
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,803
It's a burden when you
have a truck or a van,
576
00:50:50,804 --> 00:50:53,570
because everybody you know wants you to
move their stuff for them, you know.
577
00:50:53,571 --> 00:50:55,838
So every time
you get a phone call,
578
00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:59,611
you're like, "Yeah, I'll come help
you move your stove or your safe."
579
00:51:05,605 --> 00:51:09,571
I helped my brother
move a refrigerator.
580
00:51:09,572 --> 00:51:14,074
Him and his wife started managing a St.
Vincent de Paul store.
581
00:51:15,073 --> 00:51:19,739
It's like a Salvation Army
kind of store in Detroit.
582
00:51:19,740 --> 00:51:22,612
So I helped him move
a refrigerator there.
583
00:51:28,606 --> 00:51:32,606
The sunburst.
Tobacco sunburst.
584
00:51:32,607 --> 00:51:36,405
My first electric.
Just tremendous.
585
00:51:36,406 --> 00:51:38,770
Just couldn't believe it
when I actually got it home,
586
00:51:38,771 --> 00:51:40,908
and there it was in the house.
587
00:51:42,906 --> 00:51:44,443
Fantastic.
588
00:51:48,438 --> 00:51:51,741
This was the one. This was
the one that I was after.
589
00:51:53,739 --> 00:51:57,971
I went around
to the stores on the street
590
00:51:57,972 --> 00:52:01,508
and found Stuyvesant Guitars.
591
00:52:04,505 --> 00:52:06,242
Guitars everywhere,
people everywhere.
592
00:52:10,238 --> 00:52:13,074
This instrument was just
there, calling out to me.
593
00:52:16,071 --> 00:52:17,543
This Explorer.
594
00:52:22,538 --> 00:52:26,071
I was really starting
to go on my way then.
595
00:52:26,072 --> 00:52:29,304
My technique
started to improve.
596
00:52:29,305 --> 00:52:32,136
It became
like a total addiction,
597
00:52:32,137 --> 00:52:36,238
to the point where actually I was
now starting to take it to school.
598
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,804
And I'd be practicing
during the recess breaks.
599
00:52:40,805 --> 00:52:44,170
And then it got to the point where
the guitar was confiscated.
600
00:52:44,171 --> 00:52:48,169
They thought it was going to be
counterculture or something.
601
00:52:48,170 --> 00:52:50,173
It wasn't doing
any harm to anybody.
602
00:52:52,171 --> 00:52:55,903
Not then, it wasn't.
603
00:52:55,904 --> 00:52:59,168
So, when I helped him move
the refrigerator, he said,
604
00:52:59,169 --> 00:53:01,335
"Well, how about taking
this guitar for payment?
605
00:53:01,336 --> 00:53:03,568
"Thanks for helping us,"
you know.
606
00:53:03,569 --> 00:53:06,140
And I loved it so much
I couldn't believe it.
607
00:53:09,137 --> 00:53:12,817
I was like, "Whoa, man,
that was worth it."
608
00:53:25,803 --> 00:53:29,401
I plugged it into an amp in
the room and just could tell.
609
00:53:29,402 --> 00:53:32,070
This was the kind of guitar
that had possibilities.
610
00:53:32,071 --> 00:53:34,937
There were songs
in this guitar.
611
00:53:35,936 --> 00:53:40,272
Twenty minutes in this store just
defined the sound of the band.
612
00:53:41,271 --> 00:53:43,069
This better work out.
613
00:53:43,070 --> 00:53:45,170
♪ You gotta go, go, go, go
614
00:53:45,171 --> 00:53:48,169
♪ Goodbye, glad to see
you go, go, go, go
615
00:53:48,170 --> 00:53:51,234
♪ Goodbye, glad to see
you go, go, go, go
616
00:53:51,235 --> 00:53:53,090
♪ Goodbye, goodbye ♪
617
00:54:22,070 --> 00:54:25,935
♪ Find yourself a girl,
and settle down
618
00:54:25,936 --> 00:54:29,735
♪ Live a simple life
in a quiet town
619
00:54:29,736 --> 00:54:31,368
♪ Steady, as she goes
620
00:54:31,369 --> 00:54:35,234
I had ideas about modifying or
kind of designing my own guitar.
621
00:54:35,235 --> 00:54:37,800
I liked the body shape
of this one.
622
00:54:37,801 --> 00:54:40,973
I was trying to customize one of these
Gretsch guitars for The Raconteurs.
623
00:54:44,969 --> 00:54:48,568
♪ Your friends have shown a
kink in the single life ♪
624
00:54:48,569 --> 00:54:51,232
When people take a guitar that's
known for a certain sound
625
00:54:51,233 --> 00:54:53,670
and throw it into
a whole different context,
626
00:54:55,668 --> 00:54:57,695
something interesting happens.
627
00:55:23,668 --> 00:55:27,200
Knowing that there was a
threshold, to volume,
628
00:55:27,201 --> 00:55:29,040
I wanted to get
more sustain out of things.
629
00:55:30,801 --> 00:55:34,466
I bumped into this chap,
Roger Mayer,
630
00:55:34,467 --> 00:55:38,136
and all he told people was
he worked at the Admiralty.
631
00:55:39,134 --> 00:55:41,737
Did I have any ideas?
632
00:56:06,533 --> 00:56:09,932
I had this record
at home of a guitar
633
00:56:09,933 --> 00:56:11,798
that had a lot
of sustain on it.
634
00:56:11,799 --> 00:56:14,101
And I got him to come around
and have a listen to it.
635
00:56:14,102 --> 00:56:16,465
I said,
"Can you get that?"
636
00:56:16,466 --> 00:56:20,436
And he went away and came back
with this phenomenal thing.
637
00:56:23,433 --> 00:56:25,768
A distortion pedal
which overloads the signal,
638
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:35,403
overdrive the sound and
make it sound pretty rude.
639
00:57:05,932 --> 00:57:07,433
This is what
I'm actually playing.
640
00:57:15,099 --> 00:57:19,131
That's it. The rest is the foot
pedal, the effects, the whole thing.
641
00:57:19,132 --> 00:57:20,998
You know, so if you're on
an acoustic, trying to say,
642
00:57:20,999 --> 00:57:23,265
"Here's my new riff. It's a
really cool riff. Listen."
643
00:57:33,799 --> 00:57:35,799
Oh, my Lord.
644
00:57:37,465 --> 00:57:38,364
Wow.
645
00:57:39,833 --> 00:57:44,598
That's impressive.
That's great.
646
00:57:44,599 --> 00:57:48,599
It was a single cutaway, and
I had this brilliant luthier
647
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,464
in Seattle, Randy Parsons.
648
00:57:50,465 --> 00:57:52,862
And he made it
a double cutaway for me.
649
00:57:52,863 --> 00:57:55,830
And then I said, "Well,
listen, I have an idea.
650
00:57:55,831 --> 00:57:57,391
"Can you just... Can
you put a silver...
651
00:57:57,631 --> 00:58:00,830
"A Green Bullet harmonica
mic on the guitar,
652
00:58:00,831 --> 00:58:03,498
"so I can just take it out,
and right there?"
653
00:58:28,531 --> 00:58:32,398
I got this echo unit and I
brought it back to rehearsal,
654
00:58:32,399 --> 00:58:35,097
and just got
totally into playing,
655
00:58:35,098 --> 00:58:37,167
but listening to
the return echo
656
00:58:40,164 --> 00:58:43,497
filling in notes
that I'm not playing,
657
00:58:43,498 --> 00:58:45,868
like two guitar players
rather than one.
658
00:58:50,863 --> 00:58:56,330
The exact same thing, but it's
just a little bit off to one side.
659
00:58:56,331 --> 00:59:00,497
I could see ways to use it
that had never been used.
660
00:59:00,498 --> 00:59:02,831
Suddenly everything changed.
661
00:59:10,597 --> 00:59:12,429
So, Jimmy, what...
662
00:59:12,430 --> 00:59:14,996
You know, those early songs that
you played on in the studio,
663
00:59:14,997 --> 00:59:16,629
- what did you actually play on?
- Yeah.
664
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:18,462
I mean,
that I would have heard,
665
00:59:18,463 --> 00:59:20,795
like, there's all
these legends about...
666
00:59:20,796 --> 00:59:22,496
Well, sometimes you
could hear what I did,
667
00:59:22,497 --> 00:59:24,796
and other times, you
couldn't hear what I did.
668
00:59:24,797 --> 00:59:26,996
But, I mean,
I was on Goldfinger.
669
00:59:26,997 --> 00:59:28,496
That was fantastic.
670
00:59:28,497 --> 00:59:30,731
Yeah. She did one take and
collapsed at the end of it.
671
00:59:32,263 --> 00:59:35,129
But, you know, it was huge, huge big
orchestra in the EMI number one,
672
00:59:35,130 --> 00:59:36,961
which was a massive,
great studio, you know.
673
00:59:36,962 --> 00:59:39,164
They did a lot of
film stuff in there.
674
00:59:39,165 --> 00:59:41,130
And, like, The Kinks stuff?
675
00:59:41,131 --> 00:59:42,431
I did some Kinks stuff.
676
00:59:42,432 --> 00:59:44,230
- Really?
- Yeah. I didn't...
677
00:59:44,231 --> 00:59:46,428
I mean, you know, it all got out of hand,
you know, about what I had done
678
00:59:46,429 --> 00:59:47,761
and what I hadn't done.
679
00:59:47,762 --> 00:59:49,520
Really, it became, like,
the stuff of legend.
680
00:59:49,562 --> 00:59:52,429
You know, before you knew what
it was, you'd done everything.
681
01:00:01,230 --> 01:00:05,261
I was filling in,
in an interval band
682
01:00:05,262 --> 01:00:07,794
at a club called
The Marquee Club,
683
01:00:07,795 --> 01:00:09,669
playing on Thursday evening.
684
01:00:14,664 --> 01:00:19,336
And somebody asked me, said, "Would
you like to play on the record?"
685
01:00:26,329 --> 01:00:32,161
The record just bubbled in on
the lower end of the Top 20.
686
01:00:32,162 --> 01:00:35,595
Then it moved so quickly.
687
01:00:35,596 --> 01:00:39,834
The invitations to do more records
were so frequent after that.
688
01:00:44,829 --> 01:00:49,766
An apprenticeship, going
into recording studios.
689
01:00:53,762 --> 01:00:56,161
"Can you put
a riff to this?"
690
01:00:56,162 --> 01:00:58,794
A song with all its
parts, the verses,
691
01:00:58,795 --> 01:01:00,928
the choruses,
the middle eights.
692
01:01:00,929 --> 01:01:05,027
Feel free to add
light detail on it.
693
01:01:05,028 --> 01:01:08,969
The musical notation, you needed
to be right on top of it.
694
01:01:14,962 --> 01:01:17,627
I could put on all
these different hats.
695
01:01:17,628 --> 01:01:21,744
Film music or a jingle. "Well
done, Jimmy, that's great."
696
01:01:36,728 --> 01:01:43,160
♪ Don't you mind people
grinnin' in your face
697
01:01:43,161 --> 01:01:48,826
♪ Don't mind people
grinnin' in your face
698
01:01:48,827 --> 01:01:52,994
♪ You just bear this in mind
699
01:01:52,995 --> 01:01:56,459
♪ A true friend is hard to find
700
01:01:56,460 --> 01:02:01,561
♪ Don't you mind people
grinnin' in your face
701
01:02:01,562 --> 01:02:06,294
By the time I was about 18,
somebody played me Son House.
702
01:02:07,293 --> 01:02:08,459
That was it for me.
703
01:02:08,460 --> 01:02:10,394
♪ Yes, don't care
how you trying to live
704
01:02:11,393 --> 01:02:14,760
♪ They'll talk about you still
705
01:02:14,761 --> 01:02:18,292
This spoke to me
in 1,000 different ways.
706
01:02:18,293 --> 01:02:22,225
I didn't know that
you could do that.
707
01:02:22,226 --> 01:02:24,225
Just singing and clapping.
708
01:02:24,226 --> 01:02:26,793
And it meant everything. It meant
everything about rock 'n' roll,
709
01:02:26,794 --> 01:02:31,125
everything about expression
and creativity and art.
710
01:02:31,126 --> 01:02:34,695
One man against
the world in one song.
711
01:02:36,693 --> 01:02:39,892
♪ Just bear, ooh, this in mind
712
01:02:39,893 --> 01:02:43,226
♪ A true friend is hard to find
713
01:02:43,227 --> 01:02:48,860
♪ Don't you mind people
grinnin' in your face ♪
714
01:02:55,060 --> 01:02:58,626
That's my favorite song.
Still is.
715
01:02:58,627 --> 01:03:00,859
It became my favorite song
the first time I heard it
716
01:03:00,860 --> 01:03:02,726
and it still is.
717
01:03:02,727 --> 01:03:04,364
I heard
everything disappearing.
718
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,238
It didn't matter that
he was clapping off time.
719
01:03:10,325 --> 01:03:15,459
It didn't matter that there was
no instruments being played.
720
01:03:15,460 --> 01:03:19,193
All that mattered was the
attitude of the song.
721
01:03:29,659 --> 01:03:32,197
Jumping off into the unknown.
722
01:03:36,193 --> 01:03:38,657
Hope and have faith
that the next chord
723
01:03:38,658 --> 01:03:40,695
or the next few notes
will come to you.
724
01:03:44,691 --> 01:03:47,123
On occasions, you get nothing
725
01:03:47,124 --> 01:03:50,190
and you come out feeling
like a complete idiot
726
01:03:50,191 --> 01:03:51,925
and that you
don't know anything,
727
01:03:51,926 --> 01:03:56,099
and you can't play guitar
and you can't write songs.
728
01:04:14,224 --> 01:04:16,989
There's this little house
on the coast
729
01:04:16,990 --> 01:04:19,932
of an area outside Dublin,
called Howth.
730
01:04:26,925 --> 01:04:30,155
We decided that this is
where we would rehearse,
731
01:04:30,156 --> 01:04:32,332
leading up to the recording
of the War album.
732
01:04:42,925 --> 01:04:44,755
There have been
bombs here before,
733
01:04:44,756 --> 01:04:46,315
but nothing of the scale
of yesterday's.
734
01:04:47,223 --> 01:04:50,388
And as the full implications of
the number of dead and injured
735
01:04:50,389 --> 01:04:52,427
and the destruction to
property became apparent,
736
01:04:53,224 --> 01:04:54,703
it's also clear
that the South now
737
01:04:55,258 --> 01:04:58,061
has a serious security
problem of its own.
738
01:05:02,057 --> 01:05:04,926
Bombs going off
on a weekly basis.
739
01:05:06,924 --> 01:05:10,056
So many lives destroyed.
740
01:05:10,057 --> 01:05:13,493
Perverted, distorted idea
of freedom.
741
01:05:17,489 --> 01:05:19,570
No life was sacred.
742
01:05:33,556 --> 01:05:37,589
The crunch came. This one day
I went into this session.
743
01:05:37,590 --> 01:05:40,992
I saw this big ream of paper
in front of me.
744
01:05:43,989 --> 01:05:46,460
I started to get
very uncomfortable.
745
01:05:49,457 --> 01:05:52,728
There was no run-through. They
counted you in, and off you went.
746
01:05:57,723 --> 01:05:59,959
It literally was Muzak.
747
01:06:01,957 --> 01:06:03,788
I'm not actually
creating anything.
748
01:06:03,789 --> 01:06:07,221
I'm interpreting whatever it
is that's written down now.
749
01:06:07,222 --> 01:06:09,194
And I'm even
doing Muzak sessions.
750
01:06:14,189 --> 01:06:15,658
Tearing my hair out.
751
01:06:18,655 --> 01:06:20,300
And I've got to get out of it.
752
01:06:31,289 --> 01:06:35,655
And I thought about it
for a long time, for days.
753
01:06:35,656 --> 01:06:37,889
There's this whole new world that's
just opened up in front of me
754
01:06:37,890 --> 01:06:41,887
and I have to figure out,
"How do I get there?
755
01:06:41,888 --> 01:06:44,700
"Am I not allowed
to get there?"
756
01:06:55,688 --> 01:06:59,689
Bono put it to me, he said, "You
know, Edge, I think maybe if you
757
01:06:59,690 --> 01:07:03,029
"would do a bit of time
on your own."
758
01:07:10,022 --> 01:07:12,691
I remember feeling,
"Well, can I write?
759
01:07:15,688 --> 01:07:19,193
"You know, am I a writer,
or am I just a guitarist?"
760
01:07:24,188 --> 01:07:28,186
This is it.
This is the day of departure.
761
01:07:28,187 --> 01:07:32,069
I wanted to get out there, and I had
a lot that I really wanted to do.
762
01:07:48,753 --> 01:07:53,193
The minute that I was in The Yardbirds,
that bow was out immediately.
763
01:07:58,188 --> 01:08:01,952
I shed this coat off of me, and
then I wanted to try everything
764
01:08:01,953 --> 01:08:04,485
that was breaking rules. I wanted
to do things that sped up.
765
01:08:04,486 --> 01:08:07,604
I wanted to do things that were like
playing a bow and hurting people's ears.
766
01:08:14,453 --> 01:08:18,420
I started to look for
ways to get away with it
767
01:08:18,421 --> 01:08:22,285
and not be some sort
of white-boy blues band.
768
01:08:22,286 --> 01:08:24,291
And we went and played
open-mic night.
769
01:08:27,288 --> 01:08:29,006
We were kind of in
our own little world.
770
01:08:31,587 --> 01:08:33,156
Meg didn't really
want to do it.
771
01:08:35,154 --> 01:08:36,786
I was pushing her.
772
01:08:36,787 --> 01:08:38,650
If I put her behind the drums,
773
01:08:38,651 --> 01:08:41,485
then, you know, maybe something
interesting will happen.
774
01:08:41,486 --> 01:08:45,688
She just played like a little
caveman and a little child.
775
01:08:46,687 --> 01:08:50,286
We started to form
everything around Meg.
776
01:08:50,287 --> 01:08:53,153
We saw a bag of
peppermint candies.
777
01:08:53,154 --> 01:08:54,987
I said, "Well, that should
be on your bass drum.
778
01:08:54,988 --> 01:08:58,486
"We should paint that
on your bass drum."
779
01:08:58,487 --> 01:09:01,687
By this time,
I had found a red guitar.
780
01:09:03,685 --> 01:09:07,419
This red guitar and
the peppermint candy
781
01:09:07,420 --> 01:09:10,752
dictated the aesthetic
of the band.
782
01:09:10,753 --> 01:09:12,918
♪ What am I supposed to think?
783
01:09:12,919 --> 01:09:14,785
♪ Drop a nickel in the sink ♪
784
01:09:14,786 --> 01:09:18,718
White Stripes became the big
way to get away with it.
785
01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:23,051
By having a brother-and-sister
band that was, you know...
786
01:09:23,052 --> 01:09:25,418
Red, white and black
was the complete aesthetic.
787
01:09:25,419 --> 01:09:27,083
And it was childish, and
we're presenting ourselves
788
01:09:27,084 --> 01:09:29,350
in a real childish manner,
almost like cartoon characters.
789
01:09:29,351 --> 01:09:31,417
And a lot of distractions
to keep people away
790
01:09:31,418 --> 01:09:33,218
from what was really going on,
791
01:09:33,219 --> 01:09:36,683
which was, we were just really
trying to play this, you know.
792
01:09:36,684 --> 01:09:37,921
You know, still are, so...
793
01:10:03,053 --> 01:10:05,316
♪ Dead leaves
and the dirty ground
794
01:10:05,317 --> 01:10:06,888
♪ When I know you're not around
795
01:10:08,886 --> 01:10:11,316
♪ Shiny tops and soda pops
796
01:10:11,317 --> 01:10:14,217
♪ When I hear
your lips make a sound
797
01:10:14,218 --> 01:10:15,919
♪ When I hear
your lips make a sound
798
01:10:17,917 --> 01:10:20,383
♪ Thirty notes in the mailbox
799
01:10:20,384 --> 01:10:21,920
♪ Will tell you
that I'm coming home
800
01:10:23,918 --> 01:10:26,252
♪ Well, I think
I'm gonna stick around
801
01:10:26,253 --> 01:10:29,051
♪ For a while
so you're not alone
802
01:10:29,052 --> 01:10:30,931
♪ For a while
so you're not alone
803
01:10:44,917 --> 01:10:46,849
I would just go to D with
it sort of in a blues way,
804
01:10:46,850 --> 01:10:49,481
and I was just
singing a Son House lyric.
805
01:10:49,482 --> 01:10:51,988
♪ Didn't feel so bad
till the sun went down
806
01:10:54,985 --> 01:10:57,652
And then we go to D, then...
807
01:10:58,651 --> 01:11:03,585
♪ Didn't have no one
to wrap my arms around
808
01:11:04,584 --> 01:11:06,453
♪ Wrap my arms around ♪
809
01:11:09,450 --> 01:11:11,999
Floating around
blues structures.
810
01:11:26,984 --> 01:11:29,251
Did the press understand
what you were doing?
811
01:11:29,252 --> 01:11:31,249
No, I don't think they did.
812
01:11:31,250 --> 01:11:33,916
I didn't think they had a
clue what we were doing,
813
01:11:33,917 --> 01:11:39,493
as each album changed in its
sort of concept and variety.
814
01:11:48,484 --> 01:11:49,818
The reviews were terrible.
815
01:11:50,817 --> 01:11:54,648
They didn't understand
what we were doing.
816
01:11:54,649 --> 01:11:58,818
They gave the fourth album
a one-paragraph review.
817
01:11:59,817 --> 01:12:02,281
Now, there's a lot
of material on that.
818
01:12:02,282 --> 01:12:06,217
Black Dog, there's Levee Breaks,
there's Stairway to Heaven.
819
01:12:07,216 --> 01:12:08,237
One paragraph.
820
01:12:28,217 --> 01:12:32,214
They didn't have a clue
what was going on.
821
01:12:32,215 --> 01:12:35,188
I just didn't even bother to
read music papers after that.
822
01:12:41,181 --> 01:12:44,448
This car bomb has gone off.
823
01:12:44,449 --> 01:12:48,055
This bar has been raked
with machine gun fire.
824
01:12:55,048 --> 01:12:58,692
Total disregard for human life.
825
01:13:08,681 --> 01:13:10,788
We're not buying into this.
826
01:13:16,782 --> 01:13:19,125
I just remember
being in a rage.
827
01:13:28,116 --> 01:13:32,117
When you go past
a managed forest,
828
01:13:34,115 --> 01:13:36,956
you see a mass of tree trunks.
829
01:13:44,948 --> 01:13:47,446
Then, at a certain point,
you look again,
830
01:13:47,447 --> 01:13:50,084
and you realize they're
all in perfect rows.
831
01:13:53,081 --> 01:13:54,352
Clarity.
832
01:13:58,348 --> 01:14:00,351
Clarity of vision.
833
01:14:03,348 --> 01:14:08,517
What you've been looking at from the
wrong angle and not seeing at all.
834
01:14:10,514 --> 01:14:11,682
You labor.
835
01:14:12,681 --> 01:14:16,112
You sweat to see
836
01:14:16,113 --> 01:14:19,916
what you couldn't have seen
from that other perspective.
837
01:14:22,913 --> 01:14:26,279
I just remember just scrambling
to try and put it down
838
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,458
before that moment
passes and fades.
839
01:14:39,448 --> 01:14:43,946
And picking up the guitar and
that's what I came out with.
840
01:14:49,648 --> 01:14:54,180
♪ Broken bottles
under children's feet
841
01:14:55,179 --> 01:15:00,578
♪ Bodies strewn
across a dead-end street
842
01:15:00,579 --> 01:15:04,081
♪ I won't heed the battle call
843
01:15:06,079 --> 01:15:10,581
♪ Puts my back up, puts my
back up against the wall
844
01:15:11,580 --> 01:15:16,146
♪ Sunday, bloody Sunday
845
01:15:17,145 --> 01:15:22,744
♪ Sunday, bloody Sunday
846
01:15:22,745 --> 01:15:27,245
♪ Sunday, bloody Sunday
847
01:15:33,078 --> 01:15:37,144
♪ How long? How long
must we sing this song?
848
01:15:37,145 --> 01:15:42,411
♪ How long?
How long?
849
01:15:42,412 --> 01:15:47,010
♪ 'Cause tonight,
we can be as one
850
01:15:47,011 --> 01:15:49,080
♪ Tonight
851
01:15:51,078 --> 01:15:55,245
♪ Tonight, tonight
852
01:15:55,246 --> 01:16:00,179
♪ Tonight, tonight ♪
853
01:16:33,145 --> 01:16:37,976
You know, I come in here and
sometimes it's just not a great day,
854
01:16:37,977 --> 01:16:42,583
but there's always gonna be
something if you just keep going.
855
01:16:47,577 --> 01:16:51,244
If you don't have a struggle already
inside of you or around you,
856
01:16:51,245 --> 01:16:54,276
you have to make one up.
857
01:16:54,277 --> 01:16:57,246
These little things
during the day.
858
01:16:58,245 --> 01:17:00,144
Extreme feelings.
859
01:17:00,145 --> 01:17:02,077
Something that made you angry
or something that made you
860
01:17:02,078 --> 01:17:03,705
upset or jealous.
861
01:17:32,676 --> 01:17:38,112
♪ Spider got eight legs
and I got two
862
01:17:40,110 --> 01:17:43,008
♪ This guitar got six strings
863
01:17:43,009 --> 01:17:46,180
♪ But what about you?
Yeah, what do you got?
864
01:17:50,176 --> 01:17:52,610
♪ What did you get
for free? ♪
865
01:17:54,608 --> 01:17:57,810
You wrote the essence of Stairway
to Heaven before you got here.
866
01:17:57,811 --> 01:17:59,842
- Yes, I had...
- What is your process
867
01:17:59,843 --> 01:18:01,677
when you write a song?
868
01:18:04,111 --> 01:18:05,549
I can't tell you
what the process is.
869
01:18:06,408 --> 01:18:10,208
It changes from
one thing to another,
870
01:18:10,209 --> 01:18:12,575
but it usually
comes just from...
871
01:18:12,576 --> 01:18:14,708
For anybody who's writing or,
872
01:18:14,709 --> 01:18:17,942
you know, whether they're writing
written word or music or whatever,
873
01:18:17,943 --> 01:18:21,709
it just comes from the
creative spark, really.
874
01:18:21,710 --> 01:18:23,140
It's all very spontaneous,
875
01:18:23,141 --> 01:18:26,545
but, you see, the whole reason
for being here was for that.
876
01:18:40,676 --> 01:18:44,874
The double neck came as
a result of Stairway.
877
01:18:44,875 --> 01:18:46,906
Stairway was done
on the acoustic,
878
01:18:46,907 --> 01:18:51,440
with all these electric guitar
string parts on it that build it up.
879
01:18:51,441 --> 01:18:53,676
I thought to myself, "How am I
going to do this on stage?"
880
01:18:53,677 --> 01:18:59,042
So, it became a necessity relative
to the song, if you like.
881
01:18:59,043 --> 01:19:02,274
'Cause then you could
do the six-string part,
882
01:19:02,275 --> 01:19:05,506
the acoustic part, electric, of
course, but the solo on this,
883
01:19:05,507 --> 01:19:08,274
- and do the rest of it on the 12.
- Right. Yeah.
884
01:19:08,275 --> 01:19:11,975
♪ There's a lady who's sure
885
01:19:12,974 --> 01:19:15,907
♪ All that glitters is gold
886
01:19:15,908 --> 01:19:21,241
♪ And she's buying
a stairway to heaven
887
01:19:21,242 --> 01:19:25,808
Being a studio musician,
you certainly don't speed up.
888
01:19:25,809 --> 01:19:28,673
One of the things that I really
wanted to do straightaway was
889
01:19:28,674 --> 01:19:30,580
crescendo and speed.
890
01:19:35,575 --> 01:19:38,351
♪ And it makes me wonder
891
01:19:47,341 --> 01:19:50,039
I liked this idea of movement.
892
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,639
♪ If there's a bustle
in your hedgerow
893
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,072
♪ Don't be alarmed now
894
01:19:56,073 --> 01:19:59,908
♪ It's just a spring clean
for the May Queen ♪
895
01:19:59,909 --> 01:20:02,572
Pulse, push.
896
01:20:02,573 --> 01:20:05,809
Rise and fall in its
intensity, in its power.
897
01:20:07,807 --> 01:20:09,939
Light and shade.
898
01:20:09,940 --> 01:20:12,593
Wouldn't I want to
be employing that?
899
01:20:31,573 --> 01:20:34,238
That was something that was
gonna keep increasing,
900
01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:37,708
building, accelerating, from
the beginning to the very end,
901
01:20:38,707 --> 01:20:40,604
like an orgasm.
902
01:21:44,539 --> 01:21:48,606
Every night that we went
on stage, it was living.
903
01:21:49,605 --> 01:21:51,809
Totally living at every point.
904
01:21:54,806 --> 01:21:57,037
The spark had become the flame
905
01:21:57,038 --> 01:21:58,757
and the flame was
burning really bright.
906
01:22:23,338 --> 01:22:24,857
♪ What do you got
that I ain't got?
907
01:22:26,338 --> 01:22:28,538
♪ That's what I wanna know
908
01:22:29,537 --> 01:22:32,436
♪ Can I get a piece of it?
909
01:22:32,437 --> 01:22:35,874
♪ A piece before you go?
Well, give it up, girl
910
01:22:38,871 --> 01:22:41,878
♪ Yeah, shove it
right down my throat
911
01:22:47,872 --> 01:22:51,038
♪ Before I leave I got one
last thing to say to you
912
01:22:52,037 --> 01:22:53,795
♪ Have you seen my coat? ♪
913
01:23:18,770 --> 01:23:21,301
That's it.
914
01:23:21,302 --> 01:23:24,602
♪ Spent my days
with a woman unkind
915
01:23:24,603 --> 01:23:29,775
♪ Smoked my stuff
and drank all my wine
916
01:23:33,771 --> 01:23:36,803
♪ Made up my mind
to make a new start
917
01:23:36,804 --> 01:23:41,241
♪ Going to California with
an aching in my heart ♪
918
01:23:46,236 --> 01:23:48,569
There's a total concentration
919
01:23:48,570 --> 01:23:52,141
on music and creativity
and writing.
920
01:23:58,135 --> 01:24:00,770
Pushing the boundaries.
921
01:24:01,769 --> 01:24:04,004
Looking over the horizon.
922
01:24:06,002 --> 01:24:10,368
Musicians that were absolutely
on top of their game.
923
01:27:08,767 --> 01:27:10,566
Great!
924
01:27:10,567 --> 01:27:11,767
Nice.
925
01:27:16,098 --> 01:27:18,199
Nice. That's it.
926
01:27:29,898 --> 01:27:31,935
You're supposed to
join the family.
927
01:27:33,933 --> 01:27:36,698
You're supposed to
become part of it.
928
01:27:36,699 --> 01:27:39,212
That family of storytellers.
929
01:27:52,199 --> 01:27:57,430
When it goes down into that break bit.
It's, yeah... It's G. Yeah.
930
01:27:57,431 --> 01:28:00,263
- D, C, C, G.
- Okay. Yeah.
931
01:28:00,264 --> 01:28:01,632
G, B minor?
932
01:28:01,832 --> 01:28:03,230
G, D, C, it's the...
933
01:28:03,231 --> 01:28:04,596
Oh, right here.
I see. Yeah, okay.
934
01:28:04,597 --> 01:28:06,164
The biggest thrill
is creating something
935
01:28:06,165 --> 01:28:09,997
that has the power
to really connect with people.
936
01:28:09,998 --> 01:28:12,731
That's why I took up the
guitar in the first place.
937
01:28:12,732 --> 01:28:16,099
What's the note here for the vocal?
For me, if I do it lower.
938
01:28:17,098 --> 01:28:19,163
♪ Take a load off, Annie
939
01:28:19,164 --> 01:28:20,297
Oh, that.
940
01:28:20,298 --> 01:28:21,761
♪ Take a load off, Annie ♪
941
01:28:21,762 --> 01:28:22,798
I can do the high, but...
942
01:28:25,498 --> 01:28:27,997
Afraid I can't hit it.
943
01:28:27,998 --> 01:28:29,628
I can't sing.
I'm hopeless. Yeah.
944
01:28:29,629 --> 01:28:31,530
Really high ones, isn't it?
945
01:28:31,531 --> 01:28:35,430
Whether I took it on, or it
took me on, I don't know.
946
01:28:35,431 --> 01:28:37,630
The jury's out on that.
947
01:28:37,631 --> 01:28:40,430
But I don't care.
948
01:28:40,431 --> 01:28:43,104
I just really, really
enjoyed it. That's it.
949
01:28:49,098 --> 01:28:51,496
I just noticed,
I've been playing
950
01:28:51,497 --> 01:28:53,431
the wrong second chord
in the verse.
951
01:28:53,432 --> 01:28:54,564
Have you?
952
01:28:54,565 --> 01:28:56,399
It's a B minor, actually,
not an E minor.
953
01:28:58,397 --> 01:28:59,497
Oh, shit.
954
01:28:59,498 --> 01:29:00,930
Yeah, that's better.
955
01:29:00,931 --> 01:29:03,630
For me,
it was a much bigger world.
956
01:29:03,631 --> 01:29:07,579
I had a voracious appetite
for everything. All of it.
957
01:29:22,563 --> 01:29:24,827
Music keeps
progressing and moving on
958
01:29:24,828 --> 01:29:27,128
and people come up with
new ideas and new tricks
959
01:29:27,129 --> 01:29:30,964
and new ways to tell the same
story in a different way.
960
01:29:30,965 --> 01:29:36,169
♪ I'm bringing back ghosts
that are no longer there
961
01:29:41,164 --> 01:29:44,331
♪ I'm getting hard on myself
962
01:29:45,330 --> 01:29:47,229
♪ Sitting in my easy chair
963
01:29:47,230 --> 01:29:49,462
We're all doing the same thing,
964
01:29:49,463 --> 01:29:51,894
attempting to share something
with another human being.
965
01:29:51,895 --> 01:29:53,732
♪ Well, there's three people
in the mirror
966
01:29:54,731 --> 01:29:58,834
♪ And I'm wondering which
one of them I should choose
967
01:30:02,829 --> 01:30:05,363
♪ Well, I can't keep
from laughing
968
01:30:05,364 --> 01:30:09,669
♪ Spitting out these 300 miles
per hour outpour blues ♪
969
01:30:16,661 --> 01:30:21,229
In essence, we are
effectively the same band.
970
01:30:21,230 --> 01:30:24,062
We're a little bit
more complex.
971
01:30:24,063 --> 01:30:27,394
But we're really still the band
972
01:30:27,395 --> 01:30:29,862
that's crowded into
the small little rooms,
973
01:30:30,861 --> 01:30:32,627
trying to play with each other
974
01:30:32,628 --> 01:30:36,326
and find those clues that
will take us somewhere new.
975
01:30:36,327 --> 01:30:38,664
Now, exactly where this
note was I have no memory.
976
01:30:39,663 --> 01:30:41,495
But this is where it was put.
977
01:30:47,529 --> 01:30:51,293
I loved this whole idea of, you
know, getting a band together.
978
01:30:51,294 --> 01:30:53,693
So I was definitely
gonna do something.
979
01:30:53,694 --> 01:30:57,527
But if Larry had not put the message up,
I would have been in some other band.
980
01:30:57,528 --> 01:30:59,961
I don't know. It
wouldn't have been U2.
981
01:30:59,962 --> 01:31:04,129
God knows who it would have been.
And if, you know, would I
982
01:31:05,128 --> 01:31:06,632
be doing what I am now?
Probably not.
983
01:31:11,627 --> 01:31:14,397
I mean, I could
be doing anything.
984
01:31:16,395 --> 01:31:19,780
I'd be, I don't know, working in
a bank somewhere or something.
985
01:31:38,761 --> 01:31:41,461
The day
when you pick up a guitar
986
01:31:41,462 --> 01:31:44,428
and there's nothing
coming through whatsoever.
987
01:31:44,429 --> 01:31:47,529
There's no new pieces,
no new ideas.
988
01:31:49,527 --> 01:31:53,628
And that's the sort of gift
that any creative person has.
989
01:31:53,629 --> 01:31:58,526
There's always that point that
that might happen to you.
990
01:31:58,527 --> 01:32:02,726
Or you're too old to be
able to pick the guitar up.
991
01:32:02,727 --> 01:32:07,498
And we're just trying to keep that
day far, far away and out of sight.
992
01:32:24,994 --> 01:32:27,493
♪ I pulled into Nazareth
993
01:32:27,494 --> 01:32:30,260
♪ Was feelin'
about half past dead
994
01:32:31,259 --> 01:32:33,627
♪ I just need someplace
995
01:32:33,628 --> 01:32:37,458
♪ Where I can lay my head
996
01:32:37,459 --> 01:32:39,692
♪ "Hey, mister, can you tell me
997
01:32:39,693 --> 01:32:43,693
♪ "Where a man
might find a bed?"
998
01:32:43,694 --> 01:32:46,426
♪ He just grinned
and shook my hand
999
01:32:46,427 --> 01:32:47,827
♪ "No!" was all he said
1000
01:32:49,825 --> 01:32:51,961
♪ Take a load off, Annie
1001
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,860
♪ Take a load for free
1002
01:32:55,859 --> 01:32:58,592
♪ Take a load off, Annie
1003
01:32:58,593 --> 01:33:00,292
♪ And
1004
01:33:00,293 --> 01:33:04,363
♪ And you put
the load right on me
1005
01:33:06,361 --> 01:33:10,390
This one's called Claudette. After
the actress Claudette Colbert.
1006
01:33:10,391 --> 01:33:12,257
My tattoo artist
did all this for me.
1007
01:33:12,258 --> 01:33:14,591
He's really good at
doing this on people,
1008
01:33:14,592 --> 01:33:16,071
so we figured he'd
be doing it with...
1009
01:33:16,526 --> 01:33:17,857
I bought him
a wood burning tool,
1010
01:33:17,858 --> 01:33:19,924
so he could burn her
face on the side of it.
1011
01:33:19,925 --> 01:33:22,426
I made the pick guard,
so it looks like a brunette.
1012
01:33:22,427 --> 01:33:26,560
♪ When I saw old Carmen and the
Devil walking side by side
1013
01:33:28,558 --> 01:33:33,427
♪ I said, "Hey, Carmen, come
on and let's go downtown"
1014
01:33:34,426 --> 01:33:36,692
♪ She said, "I gotta go now
1015
01:33:36,693 --> 01:33:39,693
♪ "Well, my friend, she
can stick around for you"
1016
01:33:39,694 --> 01:33:42,759
♪ Yeah, well,
take a load off, Annie
1017
01:33:43,758 --> 01:33:45,958
♪ Take a load for free
1018
01:33:45,959 --> 01:33:48,360
And you come out and bring your
amp out here all the time?
1019
01:33:48,361 --> 01:33:50,424
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
1020
01:33:50,425 --> 01:33:55,727
It's my thing. You know, I like to get
out here in the elements and rock out.
1021
01:33:56,726 --> 01:33:58,691
Yeah, with the islands.
1022
01:33:58,692 --> 01:34:01,391
The islands I always
find very inspiring
1023
01:34:01,392 --> 01:34:04,138
for those long echo,
delayed sounds.
1024
01:34:18,123 --> 01:34:20,157
It's an actual theremin.
1025
01:34:30,726 --> 01:34:32,823
It hasn't got six strings,
but it's a lot of fun.
1026
01:34:34,125 --> 01:34:36,225
♪ Take a load for free
1027
01:34:37,224 --> 01:34:40,756
♪ Take a load off, Annie
1028
01:34:40,757 --> 01:34:45,236
♪ And, well, yeah you put
the load right on me
1029
01:34:57,224 --> 01:35:02,089
♪ Go down, Miss Moses,
there's nothing you can say
1030
01:35:02,090 --> 01:35:04,521
I notice you have a
picture of the Fab Four.
1031
01:35:04,522 --> 01:35:07,391
It's actually not so much
reverence for The Beatles.
1032
01:35:08,390 --> 01:35:11,989
It's a kind of haircut
reference for the crew.
1033
01:35:11,990 --> 01:35:13,492
♪ "What about young
Anna Lee?"
1034
01:35:15,490 --> 01:35:17,689
♪ He said, "Do me a favor, son
1035
01:35:17,690 --> 01:35:21,822
♪ "Won't you stay and
keep Anna Lee company?"
1036
01:35:21,823 --> 01:35:23,891
♪ Take a load off, Annie
1037
01:35:24,890 --> 01:35:26,958
♪ Take a load for free
1038
01:35:28,956 --> 01:35:32,856
We almost had an accident
with a suit and a cell phone.
1039
01:35:34,889 --> 01:35:37,867
He was probably right in the middle of
saying the words "totally organic."
1040
01:35:47,857 --> 01:35:50,222
♪ Crazy Chester followed me
1041
01:35:50,223 --> 01:35:53,555
♪ And he caught me in the fog
1042
01:35:53,556 --> 01:35:55,387
Look at that. Somebody's
put the lyrics
1043
01:35:55,388 --> 01:35:56,991
to Glad to See You Go
on their locker.
1044
01:35:58,124 --> 01:36:00,654
What a coincidence. Okay.
1045
01:36:00,655 --> 01:36:02,521
We used to play this song.
1046
01:36:02,522 --> 01:36:06,055
♪ "You know I'm a peaceful man"
1047
01:36:06,055 --> 01:36:08,421
♪ He said, "That's okay, boy
1048
01:36:08,422 --> 01:36:12,055
♪ "Won't you feed my
dog, now, when you can?"
1049
01:36:12,056 --> 01:36:14,224
♪ Take a load off, Annie
1050
01:36:15,223 --> 01:36:17,190
♪ Take a load for free
1051
01:36:18,189 --> 01:36:20,855
♪ Take a load off, Annie
1052
01:36:20,856 --> 01:36:22,455
♪ And
1053
01:36:22,456 --> 01:36:26,034
♪ And you put
the load right on me
1054
01:36:38,022 --> 01:36:40,123
♪ Take a load off, Annie
1055
01:36:41,122 --> 01:36:43,124
♪ Take a load for free
1056
01:36:44,123 --> 01:36:46,620
♪ Take a load off, Annie
1057
01:36:46,621 --> 01:36:47,820
♪ And
1058
01:36:47,821 --> 01:36:51,967
♪ And you put the load
right on me
1059
01:37:03,955 --> 01:37:05,956
♪ Take a load off, Annie
1060
01:37:06,955 --> 01:37:08,922
♪ Take a load for free
1061
01:37:09,921 --> 01:37:12,454
♪ Take a load off, Annie
1062
01:37:12,455 --> 01:37:13,587
♪ And
1063
01:37:13,588 --> 01:37:17,587
♪ And you put the load
right on me
1064
01:37:17,588 --> 01:37:19,523
♪ Take a load off, Annie
1065
01:37:20,522 --> 01:37:22,588
♪ Take a load for free
1066
01:37:23,587 --> 01:37:25,290
♪ Take a load off, Annie
1067
01:37:26,289 --> 01:37:27,787
♪ And
1068
01:37:27,788 --> 01:37:31,207
♪ And you put the load
right on me ♪
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