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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,983 --> 00:00:18,945 ♪ 2 00:00:22,515 --> 00:00:27,520 ♪ 3 00:00:31,003 --> 00:00:35,748 ♪ 4 00:00:39,534 --> 00:00:40,797 - People talk about queerness 5 00:00:40,841 --> 00:00:44,322 as if it's something new, right? 6 00:00:44,366 --> 00:00:48,066 But we've always been here. 7 00:00:48,110 --> 00:00:52,810 And because of society seeing our community as other, 8 00:00:55,771 --> 00:01:00,254 it's been a very complex search, I guess, 9 00:01:00,298 --> 00:01:03,649 looking for myself within media. 10 00:01:03,693 --> 00:01:06,871 You know, I've always seen bits and pieces of myself, 11 00:01:06,914 --> 00:01:11,528 but I don't think I've ever seen myself complete or whole. 12 00:01:11,571 --> 00:01:13,661 But then... 13 00:01:13,705 --> 00:01:17,143 Oh, my God! 14 00:01:17,186 --> 00:01:20,277 I can't, I can't, bb. 15 00:01:20,321 --> 00:01:23,019 Black trans power. 16 00:01:23,063 --> 00:01:25,501 Black trans power, bb. 17 00:01:28,156 --> 00:01:30,463 It's huge! 18 00:01:34,555 --> 00:01:36,687 Queer folks are often looked over 19 00:01:36,731 --> 00:01:38,473 and not even given a chance. 20 00:01:41,388 --> 00:01:44,958 So seeing these beautiful representations of queerness 21 00:01:45,002 --> 00:01:46,786 that portray what you're either feeling 22 00:01:46,830 --> 00:01:49,354 or what you want to experience 23 00:01:49,397 --> 00:01:53,141 give some kind of hope that you can just be yourself. 24 00:01:53,185 --> 00:01:56,276 [ Laughs ] 25 00:01:56,319 --> 00:01:59,671 But going back into our history, 26 00:01:59,714 --> 00:02:02,631 queerness was so criminalized, 27 00:02:02,675 --> 00:02:04,720 we had to keep a low profile 28 00:02:04,764 --> 00:02:09,509 and use coded language to express ourselves safely. 29 00:02:11,075 --> 00:02:14,209 And we've seen it within art and advertising, 30 00:02:14,252 --> 00:02:18,431 like in the imagery of this gay artist, JC Leyendecker, 31 00:02:18,475 --> 00:02:21,740 who was working in the early 1900s. 32 00:02:23,873 --> 00:02:26,571 He was able to thread in queerness 33 00:02:26,615 --> 00:02:29,532 in an era when it's not accepted. 34 00:02:32,622 --> 00:02:36,801 But he was kinda erased from history. 35 00:02:36,844 --> 00:02:41,546 ♪ 36 00:02:43,678 --> 00:02:48,945 ♪ 37 00:02:51,078 --> 00:02:56,040 ♪ 38 00:02:58,173 --> 00:03:00,829 [ Page turning, pencil scratching ] 39 00:03:09,534 --> 00:03:14,061 - December 3rd, 1950. 40 00:03:14,105 --> 00:03:16,498 I've spent the day thumbing through old paintings 41 00:03:16,542 --> 00:03:18,153 in the studio, 42 00:03:18,197 --> 00:03:21,592 many of them from decades ago. 43 00:03:21,635 --> 00:03:24,683 The canvases take me back to a time less encumbered 44 00:03:24,726 --> 00:03:27,076 by what might have been, 45 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,472 the beginning of it all. 46 00:03:30,515 --> 00:03:32,605 I still remember leaving Chicago, 47 00:03:32,648 --> 00:03:34,694 boarding an ocean liner headed for Europe. 48 00:03:34,737 --> 00:03:39,221 [ Bell clanging ] I was 19 years old. 49 00:03:39,264 --> 00:03:43,705 I'd saved every penny to achieve my dream, 50 00:03:43,748 --> 00:03:46,925 to study art in Paris. 51 00:03:46,969 --> 00:03:50,713 ♪ 52 00:03:50,756 --> 00:03:55,239 - Paris was the art center of the world, 53 00:03:55,282 --> 00:03:59,636 and Leyendecker studied at the Académie Julian, which was 54 00:04:01,333 --> 00:04:03,902 more encouraging of the free spirit to come out. 55 00:04:06,426 --> 00:04:09,778 And he actually got to study and become friendly with 56 00:04:09,822 --> 00:04:13,086 the famous French poster artists -- 57 00:04:13,129 --> 00:04:15,045 Chéret... 58 00:04:15,089 --> 00:04:16,873 Toulouse-Lautrec... 59 00:04:16,917 --> 00:04:21,357 and Mucha, who became JC's mentor. 60 00:04:24,142 --> 00:04:28,931 This was Art Nouveau, which was less formal, 61 00:04:29,801 --> 00:04:32,804 and all this advertising art 62 00:04:32,848 --> 00:04:37,592 was plastered all over the Paris streets. 63 00:04:38,593 --> 00:04:43,077 And JC was entranced. 64 00:04:43,121 --> 00:04:45,384 He realized that you could do something 65 00:04:45,427 --> 00:04:48,344 that you felt good about as an artist, 66 00:04:48,388 --> 00:04:53,089 but you were also delivering a message to an audience. 67 00:04:55,178 --> 00:04:58,355 So he went to the center of publishing, 68 00:04:58,399 --> 00:05:00,097 which was New York. 69 00:05:00,141 --> 00:05:05,147 ♪ 70 00:05:06,017 --> 00:05:09,194 - When he arrives in New York, 71 00:05:09,238 --> 00:05:12,982 this is right after the Oscar Wilde trial, 72 00:05:13,025 --> 00:05:17,334 when Wilde is locked up for being gay. 73 00:05:17,377 --> 00:05:20,338 So Leyendecker is coming at a moment 74 00:05:20,381 --> 00:05:24,865 when there's such concern about degeneracy in the arts. 75 00:05:26,432 --> 00:05:28,782 And wanting to be a commercial artist, 76 00:05:28,826 --> 00:05:30,785 Leyendecker had to keep 77 00:05:30,829 --> 00:05:35,137 his sexuality under wraps, of course. 78 00:05:35,181 --> 00:05:38,707 - And in 1899, 79 00:05:38,751 --> 00:05:43,234 Leyendecker did his first cover for "The Saturday Evening Post," 80 00:05:44,845 --> 00:05:46,890 and at the time, "The Saturday Evening Post" 81 00:05:46,934 --> 00:05:51,678 was the most popular weekly magazine across America. 82 00:05:53,289 --> 00:05:58,077 And its cover told the whole story in one image. 83 00:05:58,121 --> 00:06:02,474 So for Leyendecker, this was a moment of arrival. 84 00:06:05,825 --> 00:06:09,003 Leyendecker was a master 85 00:06:09,047 --> 00:06:12,920 at painting the male figure. 86 00:06:12,964 --> 00:06:16,838 He found candlelight was exaggerating the light 87 00:06:16,882 --> 00:06:18,927 and the shadow, 88 00:06:18,971 --> 00:06:22,932 so if he would put a little oil on the muscles of his models, 89 00:06:22,976 --> 00:06:26,894 he could then capture an exquisite male form. 90 00:06:26,937 --> 00:06:30,854 ♪ 91 00:06:30,898 --> 00:06:35,642 He would always have the most gorgeous men model for him. 92 00:06:36,948 --> 00:06:40,823 And some of them became famous actors, 93 00:06:40,866 --> 00:06:44,652 such as John Barrymore... 94 00:06:44,696 --> 00:06:47,308 - I fell in love last night. 95 00:06:47,352 --> 00:06:49,833 - ...Brian Donlevy... 96 00:06:49,876 --> 00:06:52,924 - I know. Its tough. 97 00:06:52,967 --> 00:06:55,709 - ..and Fredric March... 98 00:06:55,752 --> 00:06:58,278 - Man is not truly one, 99 00:06:58,321 --> 00:07:00,671 but truly two. 100 00:07:00,715 --> 00:07:04,371 - But then... 101 00:07:04,414 --> 00:07:08,767 - It was late 1903 when a particularly striking young man 102 00:07:08,811 --> 00:07:11,989 appeared at my door. 103 00:07:12,033 --> 00:07:15,036 He said his name was Charles A. Beach 104 00:07:15,079 --> 00:07:16,864 and that he wanted to be a model. 105 00:07:21,957 --> 00:07:24,569 - Leyendecker was enthralled 106 00:07:24,612 --> 00:07:27,485 with Beach's tall, beautiful body 107 00:07:27,528 --> 00:07:32,273 and his perfect nose, perfect eyes, perfect mouth. 108 00:07:33,361 --> 00:07:37,323 He loved painting Charles Beach. 109 00:07:38,585 --> 00:07:41,153 - I was hired by Arrow shirts 110 00:07:41,196 --> 00:07:44,287 to design an advertisement for their new collars 111 00:07:44,331 --> 00:07:48,378 that would feature a man in Arrow clothes. 112 00:07:48,422 --> 00:07:50,077 I pitched their advertising director 113 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,036 to make it something more -- 114 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,215 not simply a man, but the perfect man, 115 00:07:57,259 --> 00:08:01,132 brought to life in an advertisement. 116 00:08:01,176 --> 00:08:04,658 - He gave him different hair coloring many times, 117 00:08:04,702 --> 00:08:07,967 but the Arrow collar man was always Charles Beach. 118 00:08:11,231 --> 00:08:15,671 And Arrow shirts sold like crazy, 119 00:08:15,715 --> 00:08:20,373 putting almost every other shirt maker out of business. 120 00:08:22,418 --> 00:08:24,812 Before that point, the male fashion plate 121 00:08:24,855 --> 00:08:27,598 was incredibly rigid, 122 00:08:27,642 --> 00:08:32,691 just like cut-out dolls, essentially. 123 00:08:32,735 --> 00:08:36,043 But Leyendecker's clothed figures are always nude, 124 00:08:36,086 --> 00:08:38,088 in a way, 125 00:08:38,132 --> 00:08:42,876 because there's always a body underneath that suit. 126 00:08:44,617 --> 00:08:48,361 And that is something that we may take for granted today. 127 00:08:49,884 --> 00:08:51,757 You know, you sell through the body. 128 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,414 ♪ 129 00:08:56,457 --> 00:08:58,852 But Leyendecker was one of the first, 130 00:08:58,895 --> 00:09:02,029 if not the first, to do that. 131 00:09:05,425 --> 00:09:10,212 - The Arrow collar man became the first male sex symbol. 132 00:09:11,823 --> 00:09:16,089 I mean, even my age, I still find a well-dressed man sexy. 133 00:09:19,093 --> 00:09:23,010 - There was something about the way Leyendecker captured men 134 00:09:23,053 --> 00:09:25,926 that straight women would find appealing 135 00:09:25,970 --> 00:09:27,928 and a straight man would look at and say, 136 00:09:27,972 --> 00:09:31,020 "I want to look like him," or, "I want to be like him." 137 00:09:31,063 --> 00:09:35,067 But a gay man would say, "Mmm! [Laughs] 138 00:09:35,111 --> 00:09:39,333 There's someone I think I might want to put on the wall." 139 00:09:39,377 --> 00:09:43,773 - It was an innovation. 140 00:09:43,817 --> 00:09:48,039 And as Charles Beach posed more and more for Leyendecker, 141 00:09:50,085 --> 00:09:52,479 they fell in love. 142 00:09:56,745 --> 00:09:59,356 - When I first came out, I always had a hard time 143 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,359 because, you know, I find trans women 144 00:10:01,403 --> 00:10:03,187 to be the most beautiful women, right? 145 00:10:03,231 --> 00:10:04,971 We're powerful and we walk down the street, 146 00:10:05,015 --> 00:10:06,712 and I'm like, "Oh, my God, yes!" 147 00:10:06,756 --> 00:10:08,019 You know, I want to be real loud, but I'm like, 148 00:10:08,063 --> 00:10:09,934 "You know, you have to be subtle, you know? 149 00:10:09,977 --> 00:10:12,458 Maybe the girl doesn't want everybody to know her tea." 150 00:10:12,502 --> 00:10:15,593 So I give little hand gestures and little winks, 151 00:10:15,636 --> 00:10:18,552 just to acknowledge that, you know, I recognize you. 152 00:10:18,596 --> 00:10:22,122 And this kind of coding is what JC Leyendecker does 153 00:10:22,166 --> 00:10:25,169 in a lot of his images. 154 00:10:25,212 --> 00:10:29,957 - He builds a kind of homoerotic intimacy and physical connection 155 00:10:31,524 --> 00:10:34,005 in places where you may not even notice it. 156 00:10:37,966 --> 00:10:42,667 Like, he's very interested in putting male athletes 157 00:10:42,711 --> 00:10:44,887 in various states of undress 158 00:10:44,930 --> 00:10:48,674 in relationship to clothed men. 159 00:10:48,718 --> 00:10:51,024 - Or when he was given a commission -- 160 00:10:51,068 --> 00:10:54,159 "We have a new collar coming out for Arrow shirts. 161 00:10:54,203 --> 00:10:55,813 You run with it" -- 162 00:10:55,856 --> 00:10:59,165 he comes up with a gorgeous depiction of sexual tension. 163 00:10:59,209 --> 00:11:02,255 - This man who's holding the golf clubs -- 164 00:11:02,299 --> 00:11:05,259 he's got an interesting grip on that bag -- 165 00:11:05,303 --> 00:11:08,175 the way it's splayed between his legs, 166 00:11:08,219 --> 00:11:11,440 the way it covers the crotch, the direction of it, 167 00:11:11,484 --> 00:11:13,529 and there's another man that's looking 168 00:11:13,573 --> 00:11:15,618 really past the woman in between them 169 00:11:15,662 --> 00:11:19,667 at looking at him. 170 00:11:19,710 --> 00:11:23,672 - This was coded advertising with a double message 171 00:11:23,715 --> 00:11:26,196 that's supposed to, you know, portray one thing, 172 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,677 but it really means another. 173 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:33,291 And for people who aren't familiar with queer culture, 174 00:11:33,335 --> 00:11:35,947 that would go right over their heads. 175 00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:37,949 - As subtle as he was, 176 00:11:37,992 --> 00:11:41,431 he was still showing us male relationships, 177 00:11:41,474 --> 00:11:44,652 this intimacy between men. 178 00:11:44,696 --> 00:11:49,571 - So Leyendecker -- through his seductive surfaces, 179 00:11:49,615 --> 00:11:53,836 he is able to lend anything a kind of homoeroticism. 180 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,407 ♪ 181 00:11:58,451 --> 00:12:02,412 - For many years, I owned a particular advertisement 182 00:12:02,456 --> 00:12:07,288 painted by JC Leyendecker for an Ivory soap bar. 183 00:12:07,331 --> 00:12:11,030 It looked absolutely magnificent on the wall, 184 00:12:11,074 --> 00:12:13,860 and I walked by it all the time. 185 00:12:13,904 --> 00:12:18,517 So one day, Whoopi Goldberg, who was a friend of mine, 186 00:12:18,561 --> 00:12:20,433 came over, and she said, 187 00:12:20,477 --> 00:12:22,696 "Judy, did you see that painting?" 188 00:12:22,740 --> 00:12:26,048 And I said, "Yes, I've had it for 10 years." 189 00:12:26,092 --> 00:12:28,834 So I looked at it just like I've always looked at it, 190 00:12:28,877 --> 00:12:32,142 and I said, "I don't see. Is there something the matter?" 191 00:12:32,186 --> 00:12:35,842 And she finally points 192 00:12:35,885 --> 00:12:38,933 to the shadow of an erection. 193 00:12:42,502 --> 00:12:45,245 And now that's the only thing I see. 194 00:12:45,288 --> 00:12:48,987 - It's kind of hard to imagine [laughs] that he didn't -- 195 00:12:49,031 --> 00:12:51,339 that he didn't know what he was doing when he did that. 196 00:12:51,382 --> 00:12:53,297 [ Clears throat ] 197 00:12:56,561 --> 00:12:58,782 I was partner and founder of an agency 198 00:12:58,825 --> 00:13:03,308 that specialized in LGBT marketing in the early '90s. 199 00:13:04,571 --> 00:13:06,094 And we learned that the lesbian community 200 00:13:06,138 --> 00:13:08,923 had been a big fan of Subaru for years. 201 00:13:08,967 --> 00:13:10,709 It was kind of like a little secret. 202 00:13:12,537 --> 00:13:15,540 It became a game of figuring out, 203 00:13:15,583 --> 00:13:18,892 how do we signal the consumer that this ad is meant for them 204 00:13:18,935 --> 00:13:20,981 using just language? 205 00:13:21,024 --> 00:13:24,202 And one of the first campaigns that most successfully did that 206 00:13:24,246 --> 00:13:28,991 had vanity plates designed to speak to the consumer. 207 00:13:30,775 --> 00:13:33,387 And at the time, Lucy Lawless was in "Xena: Warrior Princess." 208 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:36,782 And for some reason, the lesbians adored Xena. 209 00:13:36,826 --> 00:13:38,697 So that was one of the plates. 210 00:13:40,046 --> 00:13:42,267 And so I'm standing at a corner in San Francisco, 211 00:13:42,311 --> 00:13:46,837 and a bus pulls up, and it had one of these ads on the side. 212 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,624 And straight people just looked at it as if it was nothing, 213 00:13:50,668 --> 00:13:53,584 but a gay couple looked at it and they kind of pointed at 214 00:13:53,627 --> 00:13:56,936 the "XENA LVR" plate, and they start laughing. 215 00:13:56,979 --> 00:13:58,851 And I thought, "Job done." 216 00:13:58,894 --> 00:14:00,897 They connected all the dots, and they got, 217 00:14:00,941 --> 00:14:03,422 "That's for me. That's the message for me." 218 00:14:03,465 --> 00:14:06,207 And I now realize that the solutions 219 00:14:06,250 --> 00:14:08,819 that we came up with for Subaru -- 220 00:14:08,863 --> 00:14:12,170 they're not that different than what JC Leyendecker did 221 00:14:12,214 --> 00:14:14,391 back in the 1920s. 222 00:14:16,872 --> 00:14:20,616 - In JC Leyendecker's imagery of Charles Beach, 223 00:14:20,659 --> 00:14:24,968 you see a definite strong love for him, you know? 224 00:14:25,011 --> 00:14:27,798 And I think when you are trying to get 225 00:14:27,841 --> 00:14:31,062 authentic emotion within art, 226 00:14:31,105 --> 00:14:33,065 the relationship between artists, 227 00:14:33,108 --> 00:14:36,416 like painter and subject, is so important. 228 00:14:38,114 --> 00:14:39,942 - Leyendecker and Charles Beach 229 00:14:39,986 --> 00:14:43,076 were in a committed relationship. 230 00:14:43,119 --> 00:14:47,516 And Leyendecker recognized that they complemented each other. 231 00:14:50,868 --> 00:14:54,437 JC was more interested in just painting, 232 00:14:54,481 --> 00:14:59,617 while Charles was the business personality. 233 00:14:59,661 --> 00:15:04,406 So eventually, Charles became his manager. 234 00:15:05,842 --> 00:15:07,365 They were making, in today's dollars, 235 00:15:07,409 --> 00:15:10,282 millions of dollars. 236 00:15:10,325 --> 00:15:12,980 And they moved into a beautiful mansion. 237 00:15:13,024 --> 00:15:17,116 ♪ 238 00:15:17,159 --> 00:15:19,510 They had acres of land 239 00:15:19,553 --> 00:15:21,860 so they could be out in the garden 240 00:15:21,903 --> 00:15:25,517 or inside, modeling and painting. 241 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,652 ♪ 242 00:15:29,696 --> 00:15:32,655 They had spectacular parties. 243 00:15:32,699 --> 00:15:35,964 It was like "The Great Gatsby." 244 00:15:36,007 --> 00:15:40,359 F. Scott Fitzgerald and other famous friends would come 245 00:15:40,403 --> 00:15:44,582 who were very open and interested in art. 246 00:15:46,236 --> 00:15:50,110 - The '20s was a moment of great progress and visibility 247 00:15:50,154 --> 00:15:52,504 for queer folks. 248 00:15:52,548 --> 00:15:56,944 - And New York at that time was arguably the place to be 249 00:15:56,988 --> 00:15:59,120 if you're gay. 250 00:15:59,164 --> 00:16:03,909 - You have these nightclubs that were melting pots of New York, 251 00:16:05,214 --> 00:16:07,261 where people of different identities, 252 00:16:07,304 --> 00:16:09,045 like gender variant people, 253 00:16:09,089 --> 00:16:12,528 what we consider to be drag queens nowadays, 254 00:16:12,572 --> 00:16:16,967 could have community at and be free. 255 00:16:17,011 --> 00:16:20,058 - And this is Leyendecker and Beach's life. 256 00:16:20,102 --> 00:16:22,365 ♪ 257 00:16:22,408 --> 00:16:24,585 - In the Roaring Twenties, 258 00:16:24,628 --> 00:16:29,416 American illustrators were like celebrities today. 259 00:16:29,460 --> 00:16:32,072 And Leyendecker was a household name. 260 00:16:35,380 --> 00:16:40,125 And it's because of the iconic American imagery he created, 261 00:16:41,953 --> 00:16:46,219 like his holiday covers for "The Saturday Evening Post." 262 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,834 - Leyendecker provided the imagery for American traditions, 263 00:16:51,878 --> 00:16:56,623 around which those holidays then start to be organized -- 264 00:16:57,972 --> 00:16:59,756 fireworks as a part of the 4th of July, 265 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,326 flowers on Mother's Day. 266 00:17:03,369 --> 00:17:07,548 - And he came up with the rotund, jolly Santa Claus 267 00:17:07,591 --> 00:17:09,594 that you see all around today. 268 00:17:12,728 --> 00:17:17,211 So advertisers demanded JC Leyendecker. 269 00:17:17,255 --> 00:17:22,000 He captured that essence of "The Great Gatsby" era 270 00:17:23,523 --> 00:17:25,438 when you were carefree and gay and uninhibited. 271 00:17:25,481 --> 00:17:30,487 ♪ 272 00:17:32,838 --> 00:17:33,969 - The richest country in the world 273 00:17:34,013 --> 00:17:37,147 began a bitter journey downhill. 274 00:17:37,191 --> 00:17:39,672 The stock market buckled and crashed, 275 00:17:39,715 --> 00:17:43,720 and the nation's economy plummeted into the Depression. 276 00:17:43,764 --> 00:17:46,985 - In the '30s, during the Depression, 277 00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:49,422 it's as if it's a back-to-basics, 278 00:17:49,466 --> 00:17:53,906 back-to-morality kind of moment in the U.S. 279 00:17:53,950 --> 00:17:56,735 And there was this clamping down 280 00:17:56,779 --> 00:18:00,827 on anything deemed excessive or non-normative. 281 00:18:00,871 --> 00:18:04,265 - These laws are put in place to police people, 282 00:18:04,309 --> 00:18:08,488 to police how people dress, to police who they love. 283 00:18:08,531 --> 00:18:13,015 - So JC and Charles hid their relationship from the public 284 00:18:14,451 --> 00:18:17,454 because society wasn't open 285 00:18:17,498 --> 00:18:19,719 and society wasn't accepting. 286 00:18:19,762 --> 00:18:21,634 [ Indistinct talking ] 287 00:18:25,421 --> 00:18:29,120 - At a banquet for the New Rochelle Art Association, 288 00:18:29,164 --> 00:18:33,778 I met a young illustrator named Norman Rockwell. 289 00:18:33,822 --> 00:18:36,651 It seemed he was looking for something of a mentor. 290 00:18:38,741 --> 00:18:42,353 Rockwell took a studio next to mine in the city. 291 00:18:42,396 --> 00:18:46,445 He'd often knock on my door and ask my advice on a painting. 292 00:18:46,488 --> 00:18:51,233 - It was Rockwell's aspiration to become like Leyendecker. 293 00:18:52,713 --> 00:18:55,542 He even wanted to know Leyendecker's secret 294 00:18:55,585 --> 00:18:58,067 of how he painted. 295 00:18:58,111 --> 00:19:00,548 And Rockwell confesses in his book, 296 00:19:00,591 --> 00:19:04,379 "I tried and I failed." 297 00:19:04,422 --> 00:19:08,557 - Rockwell said again and again he wanted to please people, 298 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,953 like the audience of "The Saturday Evening Post" -- 299 00:19:11,996 --> 00:19:16,132 those middle-class, straight Americans. 300 00:19:16,175 --> 00:19:19,744 And Leyendecker didn't do any of that. 301 00:19:19,788 --> 00:19:21,965 [ Cheers and applause ] 302 00:19:22,008 --> 00:19:26,621 - While Leyendecker shrunk from the public eye, 303 00:19:26,665 --> 00:19:31,105 Rockwell sought it. 304 00:19:31,149 --> 00:19:35,937 And it drove him to become even more popular than Leyendecker. 305 00:19:39,898 --> 00:19:41,857 - By the end of the Depression, 306 00:19:41,901 --> 00:19:45,252 I'd lost many of most of my notable commissions, 307 00:19:45,295 --> 00:19:48,778 among them Arrow collar and Kuppenheimer clothing. 308 00:19:50,824 --> 00:19:54,219 Then in 1942, I received word from 309 00:19:54,263 --> 00:19:57,005 "The Saturday Evening Post"'s new editor, 310 00:19:57,048 --> 00:19:59,748 informing me that my next cover illustration 311 00:19:59,791 --> 00:20:01,793 was to be my last. 312 00:20:01,837 --> 00:20:06,451 I'd created over 300 covers for the magazine over 40 years. 313 00:20:08,279 --> 00:20:11,021 Charles was beside himself with anger, 314 00:20:11,064 --> 00:20:13,764 ranting "If it weren't for JC Leyendecker, 315 00:20:13,807 --> 00:20:15,156 there would be no 'Post'!" 316 00:20:17,724 --> 00:20:20,467 [ Pencil scratching ] 317 00:20:22,861 --> 00:20:25,647 - I've looked everywhere to try to find the answer 318 00:20:25,690 --> 00:20:29,042 to why he was fired from the "Post." 319 00:20:29,085 --> 00:20:31,828 We don't really know why. 320 00:20:31,872 --> 00:20:36,920 Maybe it is because of his seclusion, his sexuality, 321 00:20:37,792 --> 00:20:40,446 but whatever the case, 322 00:20:40,490 --> 00:20:45,191 this is the moment when Leyendecker falls out of favor. 323 00:20:48,499 --> 00:20:53,200 And in the '50s, another one of these backlash periods happens. 324 00:20:54,593 --> 00:20:57,858 And the repressive, incredibly homophobic atmosphere 325 00:20:57,902 --> 00:21:02,908 of McCarthyism starts to take over American culture. 326 00:21:04,300 --> 00:21:08,304 - And so by the end of Leyendecker's career, 327 00:21:08,348 --> 00:21:12,962 he and Beach became more reclusive. 328 00:21:13,006 --> 00:21:15,226 They kind of fell out of fashion. 329 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:22,713 - The house at Mount Tom Road began to feel rather lonely. 330 00:21:22,756 --> 00:21:24,715 We were forced to release all of our staff 331 00:21:24,758 --> 00:21:27,588 when the money dried up. 332 00:21:27,632 --> 00:21:31,854 So now it's just Charles and I, left to wander the gardens 333 00:21:33,594 --> 00:21:35,119 and drink alone in the great halls 334 00:21:35,162 --> 00:21:39,297 that once played host to so many wonderful people 335 00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:41,300 not so long ago. 336 00:21:43,693 --> 00:21:48,351 - Leyendecker lived with Charles Beach for 50 years, 337 00:21:50,049 --> 00:21:53,488 and then in 1951, JC was out one day, relaxing. 338 00:21:58,536 --> 00:22:02,280 He had a cocktail in his hand and it fell out, 339 00:22:02,324 --> 00:22:05,981 and he yelled for Charles, and Charles came out, 340 00:22:06,024 --> 00:22:10,333 and he died of a heart attack in Charles' arms. 341 00:22:10,376 --> 00:22:15,382 ♪ 342 00:22:18,865 --> 00:22:20,388 - Special to "The New York Times," 343 00:22:20,432 --> 00:22:23,000 August 13th -- 344 00:22:23,043 --> 00:22:27,222 "'Model' inherits $30,000. 345 00:22:27,266 --> 00:22:32,011 Joseph C. Leyendecker left half of his $60,400 estate 346 00:22:33,099 --> 00:22:34,317 to a friend who had posed for 347 00:22:34,361 --> 00:22:37,800 the original Arrow collar portraits. 348 00:22:37,843 --> 00:22:40,194 The friend is Charles A. Beach, 349 00:22:40,237 --> 00:22:43,807 who had been associated with Mr. Leyendecker for 49 years 350 00:22:43,850 --> 00:22:48,594 as his secretary and aid." 351 00:22:50,032 --> 00:22:51,990 The way it's covered in the press, 352 00:22:52,034 --> 00:22:54,862 it's coded just like the art is, 353 00:22:54,906 --> 00:22:59,433 through all of these terms that circle around 354 00:22:59,477 --> 00:23:02,220 the reality of their intimacy. 355 00:23:02,263 --> 00:23:05,440 He's an aid. He's a secretary. 356 00:23:05,484 --> 00:23:10,272 I mean, Beach is his lifetime partner, 357 00:23:10,316 --> 00:23:15,061 and there's real pain and trauma there. 358 00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:19,369 - In JC's will, he had expressed 359 00:23:19,413 --> 00:23:24,419 that he wanted Beach to destroy everything -- 360 00:23:25,115 --> 00:23:28,032 all of his mementos, 361 00:23:28,076 --> 00:23:32,819 anything relating to their relationship, 362 00:23:33,734 --> 00:23:35,998 and his paintings. 363 00:23:38,174 --> 00:23:42,918 - If you feel that you have to obliterate traces of your life 364 00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:47,141 so that you won't be judged 365 00:23:47,185 --> 00:23:51,928 or your art won't be judged according to your life, 366 00:23:53,540 --> 00:23:55,411 I would imagine he didn't have high hopes 367 00:23:55,455 --> 00:23:58,327 for where queerness could live 368 00:23:58,371 --> 00:24:01,027 within mainstream culture in the U.S. 369 00:24:03,377 --> 00:24:05,075 - The more that we stay firm in our identities 370 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,297 and what we stand for and what we believe, 371 00:24:09,340 --> 00:24:12,953 the more I think people will see us for us. 372 00:24:12,997 --> 00:24:16,435 - And with the power of advertising specifically 373 00:24:16,479 --> 00:24:21,311 to embed ideas in people's minds, 374 00:24:21,354 --> 00:24:25,142 one clear way to do that is to shout it out 375 00:24:25,185 --> 00:24:28,058 visually, powerfully. 376 00:24:28,101 --> 00:24:31,801 ♪ 377 00:24:31,845 --> 00:24:36,067 But, you know, we tend to think linearly about social progress. 378 00:24:37,808 --> 00:24:42,030 But it does not move in a linear fashion. 379 00:24:42,074 --> 00:24:44,903 It's cyclical. 380 00:24:44,947 --> 00:24:49,431 - As queer people, every move we make is politicized -- 381 00:24:50,519 --> 00:24:52,216 me stepping outside every day, 382 00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:55,176 me being able to love who I want to love. 383 00:24:55,219 --> 00:24:59,877 And it just further tells us that we need to keep fighting. 384 00:25:01,183 --> 00:25:04,796 - Because there's always a risk of forgetting history 385 00:25:04,839 --> 00:25:07,974 and entering another one of these backlash periods 386 00:25:08,017 --> 00:25:10,324 against queer people, 387 00:25:10,368 --> 00:25:12,152 just like with Leyendecker. 388 00:25:12,196 --> 00:25:15,200 ♪ 389 00:25:15,243 --> 00:25:18,159 His sexuality is fundamental 390 00:25:18,203 --> 00:25:23,252 to his removal from the historical record today. 391 00:25:24,906 --> 00:25:28,737 - And although he was the primary image maker of his day, 392 00:25:30,217 --> 00:25:34,657 by the time he died, he was almost forgotten. 393 00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:39,706 ♪ 394 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,842 ♪ 395 00:25:45,887 --> 00:25:48,238 But 10 years after his death, 396 00:25:48,281 --> 00:25:53,548 an artist rented Leyendecker's studio. 397 00:25:54,767 --> 00:25:57,248 She allowed kids to play in there, 398 00:25:57,291 --> 00:26:01,731 and they climbed a ladder, they went through a hatch, 399 00:26:01,775 --> 00:26:03,646 and they found a chest full 400 00:26:03,690 --> 00:26:06,868 of undiscovered Leyendecker artifacts, 401 00:26:06,911 --> 00:26:10,045 like sketches and paintings 402 00:26:10,088 --> 00:26:12,266 that were not destroyed. 403 00:26:12,309 --> 00:26:17,315 ♪ 404 00:26:22,015 --> 00:26:27,021 ♪ 405 00:26:31,766 --> 00:26:36,772 ♪ 406 00:26:41,734 --> 00:26:46,218 ♪ 407 00:26:51,572 --> 00:26:56,273 ♪ 408 00:27:01,235 --> 00:27:06,241 ♪ 409 00:27:10,942 --> 00:27:15,948 ♪ 410 00:27:20,954 --> 00:27:25,698 ♪ 411 00:27:30,747 --> 00:27:35,753 ♪ 412 00:27:40,498 --> 00:27:45,504 ♪ 413 00:27:50,204 --> 00:27:55,210 ♪ 414 00:27:59,868 --> 00:28:04,874 ♪ 415 00:28:09,923 --> 00:28:14,668 ♪ 416 00:28:19,674 --> 00:28:24,375 ♪ 417 00:28:29,337 --> 00:28:34,343 ♪ 418 00:28:39,044 --> 00:28:44,050 ♪ 419 00:29:03,812 --> 00:29:08,818 ♪ 420 00:29:11,081 --> 00:29:16,087 ♪ 421 00:29:21,615 --> 00:29:26,229 ♪ 30075

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