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ARCHIVE: A matter of seconds now
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and they'll be on stage,
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and just listen to that audience.
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Ladies and gentlemen, will you
please welcome,
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The Rolling Stones!
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RONNIE: I was lured...
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..just into the atmosphere.
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And that was it, it changed my life.
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MUSIC: (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
by The Rolling Stones
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NARRATOR: The Rolling Stones
exploded into the '60s,
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transforming everything
they touched...
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# I can't get no satisfaction... #
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..including a teenage boy
called Ronnie Wood.
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RONNIE: I was so taken aback with
the movement and the music,
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which is so infectious,
and the girls were incredible.
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He watched them become the greatest
rock and roll band in the world.
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I was standing before my future!
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Yeah, I was standing
before what I wanted to do.
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"This looks like a good job."
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You know, it's the greatest job
you could possibly have.
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And I thought,
"One day I'll be in that band."
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This is a story about destiny,
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about how one moment set Ronnie Wood
on a path
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that would change not only HIS life,
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but those of the band
that started it all.
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KEITH RICHARDS: Ronnie has always,
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or so he tells me,
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knew that he was going to
be in The Rolling Stones!
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CHUCKLES
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MICK JAGGER: And on guitar,
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Ronnie Wood!
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Right from the get go, right
from...
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"Ladies and gentlemen,"
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you know, "the greatest rock and
roll band in the world,
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"The Rolling Stones!" Boom!
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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
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Deep in leafy Richmond,
on a bend in the River Thames,
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stands a house that is the centre of
the London rock scene.
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It's called The Wick, and it belongs
to Mr Ronnie Wood,
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lead guitarist of The Faces.
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KEITH: We were all well aware of
Ronnie Wood.
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MICK: He lived in a very nice
house in Richmond
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with a beautiful view.
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The penny went further
in those days.
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I went in and I saw these beautiful
fireplaces and beautiful oval rooms,
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and I went beyond my means
to get it, of course.
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I sort of... I didn't have the money
for it at all,
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and I just bluffed my way in
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and suddenly I got The Wick.
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You know, he's
never been one
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to look at the
financial side.
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Ronnie's Ronnie, he's care-free.
Proper old bohemian, he is.
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CHUCKLES
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He's a really
original guitar player.
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Mick and Keith were big
fans of The Faces.
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In fact, I remember taking Mick
to see The Faces play...
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..can't remember if it was
The Rainbow on the North Circular.
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I remember him wanging on in the car
on the way back
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about how marvellous they were.
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Ronnie and I were very tight
in the early '70s.
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We did a couple of albums
with Ronnie,
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living at his house free of charge.
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Very nice. Thanks, Ron.
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Keith had moved in after
his own house Redlands burned down,
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only confirming The Wick
as THE place to be.
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And everyone that came round would
be in the snooker room with me.
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That's where the conversation was.
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That's where plans were made.
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That's where jokes were told.
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That's where stories were told.
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ROD: It was like one big pub that
anybody could go to at any time.
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It did get a little out of hand
sometimes, you know,
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there's just too many people
staying overnight,
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sleeping on the floor.
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But some great music was made
in that studio.
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One of the first things Ronnie does
when he buys The Wick
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is to turn the basement into a
recording studio.
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ARCHIVE: Is the sound recording?
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Yeah. Eh!
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When I was making my first album,
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there were so many musicians
coming and going.
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Paul would just come down
and stay or something.
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Linda! And suddenly George is there.
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And Gregg Allman coming
out of the shadows.
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You're like "ah!"
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You name it. There's Keith Moon and
Ringo on the drums,
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and there would be Jim Capaldi
there,
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all these different drummers,
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all queuing up, all just waiting
for a chance to play
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on the next song.
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So, like, all this gathering
of different musicians,
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and it was a real buzz in the air.
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Even Mick likes to drop by,
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usually finding Ronnie
in the studio.
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He's making
some sort of solo record.
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And I used to go in there
and play guitar and do demos.
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He'd always have a song, Mick.
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We started playing around...
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# If I should stick my pen
in my heart... #
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You know, we're writing
the verses and stuff
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but I was writing
I Can Feel The Fire.
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And I said, "Will you sing
on this with me, Mick?"
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You know, "I've already got
the track."
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He's going, "Yeah, come on."
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# I can feel the fire,
burning and burning. #
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Anyway, so we had that going,
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and in between songs
we'd work on this other song,
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It's Only Rock 'N' Roll.
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Once he built
the studio,
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I gave him a drum kit.
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I think it's the
worst thing I ever did.
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ARCHIVE: Will we go for a take?
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Here we go.
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We'd worn out Andy Newmark,
the drummer.
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He'd gone to sleep upstairs
and we wanted to cut the track.
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So I said,
"I know, Kenney Jones will do it."
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So I rang up Kenney.
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He always called up when
I'd got one foot in the bed.
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You know, "Mick's here, David,
blah, blah, blah."
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And he said, "I'll be right there."
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And, of course,
I've had a drink.
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So I got really carefully
avoiding all the police.
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So, about an hour later, he arrives.
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So we were playing away.
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By this time, it's about three
in the morning.
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And we're working on this song,
just jamming away.
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So it was Willie Weeks on bass,
Kenney on drums,
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and then David Bowie saying,
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"It's only rock 'n' roll..."
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You know, singing the background
vocals.
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# If I could win ya,
if I could sing ya
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# A love song so divine
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# Would it be enough
for your cheating heart
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# If I broke down and cried? #
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It's just a demo,
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but when Mick tries to re-record
It's Only Rock 'N' Roll
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with The Stones, they can't recreate
the magic of The Wick,
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so the band decide to keep
the original tracks.
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Mick had taken it over to
Island Studios
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and was starting to mix it.
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ARCHIVE: How loud are you on it?
Here we go.
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And he said, "I've got
Keith down to put his parts on."
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And Keith said,
"Yes, I've taken the precaution
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"of wiping all your guitar parts,"
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and I said,
"Oh, thanks a lot, Keith."
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I said, "But you missed one.
You've left my 12 string on there."
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And he went... "Argh."
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# I know it's only rock 'n' roll
but I like it
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# I know it's only rock 'n' roll
but I like it, like it... #
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It's Ronnie's first appearance
on a Stones recording,
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but he quickly realises he isn't
about to get
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a Jagger-Wood writing credit.
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Mick said, "I'll tell you what,
you keep I Can Feel the Fire,"
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which, you know, skyrocketed to
oblivion, in Keith's words,
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"and I'll keep
It's Only Rock 'N' Roll."
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You know? And I went "O...K..."
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The single eventually reaches
the Top 10 in the UK,
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but Ronnie has his eyes
on a bigger prize.
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I still have my sights on The Stones
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and stepping stones
towards The Stones.
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But in the meantime,
there's plenty of fun to be had
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out on the road with The Faces.
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Music: Stay With Me
by The Faces
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We were a party band
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cos we were all drinking.
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So we were always
in a bloody good mood
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all the time -
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sometimes
too much of a good mood.
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The Faces had caught the tailwind
of that first British Invasion,
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and they're on a world tour,
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to a rapturous reception.
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The crowd had never seen anything
like this,
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especially me and Woody coming
in with our crushed velvet trousers,
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big crosses, bouffant hair
and a little bit of make-up.
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"What is all this?!"
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You know, the hairstyles
of The Faces alone just slayed me.
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I couldn't separate the look
and the vibe from how raw
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and sexy their music was.
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They turned me on.
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The whole audience
were full of colour.
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It was like a party.
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It's like you're one of the audience
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while you're playing to 'em.
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# In the morning
don't say you love me... #
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There was people sitting up
on the stage with us,
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and we never used to think
anything of it.
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Well, I fell in the audience
on the last American tour,
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seemed to go down all right.
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Mind you, I've always had a few
before I go on.
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Number one is
learn how to laugh at yourself.
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Because if you don't know how to do
that, you are in shtook, mate.
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It was all about fun in The Faces
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cos we so enjoyed each other's
company and each other's playing.
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On one of the early tours
of The Faces,
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we all got given Super 8 cameras.
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We used to film each other
all the time.
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You know, we were like putting
on a show, really, to each other.
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# I guess you're a mean old Jezebel
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# Let's go upstairs
and read my tarot cards... #
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Hey, baby! Yeah!
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# Stay with me
Stay with me... #
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ARCHIVE: The Faces, Rod Stewart,
lead singer in his Marcos.
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Ron Wood, lead guitar,
with their ladies.
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I thought if I save up, buy myself
a sports car,
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I'll be able to get
a nice girlfriend,
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and then it will all be over,
cos it won't last long.
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We didn't know where music
or rock and roll was going to go.
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MICK: And I still think that you
guys who have got a little bit more
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to do should go first,
but we're all in a band.
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The Rolling Stones also face
an uncertain future.
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Off the road for well over a year,
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and strung-out on drugs,
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a fog hangs over the band.
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ARCHIVE: What do you see as the
future now?
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I don't know, really.
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I have no idea.
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I don't know what to do
until we come to it, really.
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I just... I can't even think about
what I'm doing tomorrow.
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And I know I've got to go to London.
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But that's the extent of my being
able to look into the future.
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MUSIC: Angie
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# Angie
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# Angie
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# When will those clouds
all disappear? #
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By now, Ronnie is firmly part
of The Stones' social scene,
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and fate provides him with a
ringside seat
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for a defining moment
in the band's history.
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I was sitting on this sofa
in the middle.
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Mick Jagger was here
and Mick Taylor was here.
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# You can't say we're satisfied... #
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25-year-old guitar virtuoso
Mick Taylor
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had replaced founding
member Brian Jones in 1969.
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I'll never forget it.
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You know, we were all having a chat
and a drink and then at one point,
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Taylor leans over to Jagger
and says,
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"I'm leaving the band.
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"I'm leaving right now."
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To outsiders, it seemed
like a strange moment to quit.
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The band have just had one of the
greatest runs in rock history,
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releasing Let It Bleed,
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Sticky Fingers and
Exile On Main St.
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But behind the scenes, Mick Taylor
is struggling with heroin addiction
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and life as a Rolling Stone
is starting to wear thin.
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Personally, do you find
that The Stones give
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all the musical outlets
you'd like to have?
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Oh, no. No.
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There's lots
of other things
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I'd like to do,
with other people,
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and I will do
when I get the opportunity.
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It is frustrating
on an individual level,
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but I think it is for everybody
who's a part of a group, you know.
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After years of relentless
touring and recording,
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cracks are starting to appear.
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The Stones are now tax exiles,
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and on top of that, they're banned
from touring in Japan,
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Australia and North America.
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In France, there's even a warrant
out for Keith's arrest.
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TRANSLATED FROM FRENCH:
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# Angie
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# Angie
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# Ain't it time we said goodbye? #
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We were all still roaming around the
world trying to find
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which bit that we liked.
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We were strictly really exiles
for real now,
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you know, and everybody...
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So it was very difficult
to communicate with each other.
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# Angie... #
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Oh, God. I think everyone was taking
far too many drugs then.
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The band should be going into
fucking rehab, like, for a year.
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All of them, including me.
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# Angie
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# They can't say we never tried. #
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But, you know...
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You take the rough with the smooth.
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Back at the party,
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the impact of Mick Taylor quitting
hits home.
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And Mick said,
"I think he was serious,"
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and I said, "I think he was, too."
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And he said,
"What am I going to do?"
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And I said, "I don't know, Mick,
what do you reckon?"
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And he said, "Would YOU join?"
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And I went, "I thought
you'd never ask," you know!
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It was so funny.
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He said, "But you're already
in a band, aren't you?"
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It was a big choice for Ronnie
cos Ronnie was in several bands.
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Ronnie's been in quite a few bands.
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I said, "Well, I don't want to split
The Faces up,"
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I said, "but, look,
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"if you get desperate, call me up."
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The day before we started
Black And Blue,
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Mick Taylor decided
to leave the band.
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So we all met at Heathrow
to go to Germany
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to make the record, to start the
record.
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While we was there, they auditioned
all kinds of guitar players.
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They actually drove me nuts.
I'd have to, you know...
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I'd be sitting there and waiting to
get on with it
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and they'd be auditioning some
bloody guitar player from Timbuktu.
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I don't know.
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The music press lights up with
speculation
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over who might become
the next Rolling Stone.
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Un probleme?
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Jeff Beck was checked in there
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and Steve Marriott
was a contender as well.
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They said, "Who could be
in The Stones?"
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And I know I was...
There was six of us.
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Ry Cooder was one.
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Mick, who played
with David Bowie, was put up.
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Me. I was at least recognised
as being maybe someone
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who could be in that band.
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Well, for a while there
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I was hoping the
phone would ring
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and it would
be The Stones.
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I think all of us
guitar players did.
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Waddy Wachtel did,
for sure.
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One man down, the band decide
to use the auditions
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to fill in the missing parts
on the album.
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First of all, we try people out.
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A long process. I want to talk about
all these other people.
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They're mad. We had a proper,
organised kind of try to find people
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and they appear on the album.
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With a huge American tour on the
horizon,
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and the auditions a bust,
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Mick decides to call in a favour.
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I was on my deathbed in LA.
I was really ill.
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I couldn't move. And the phone rings
and it's Mick and he says,
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"Morning. I'm desperate.
I need you."
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You know, like, and I was going
"All right!"
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Ronnie lands in Munich and heads
straight to Musicland Studios.
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The foyer is still packed
with other guitarists.
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They said, OK, you're in the
studio at 2:00, you know, whatever.
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So I just walked in and I said,
"Hey, guys, I've got this song."
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MUSIC: Hey Negrita
by The Rolling Stones
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I said "it goes like this...
Ba-de-de-de..."
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And Charlie said,
"He's only been here five minutes
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"and he's bossing us around."
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Everybody starts to join in, right?
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MICK: I had a very good rapport
with Ronnie,
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you know, when I was just jamming
with him.
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Mick started shouting "woo!"
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Singing,
and he put some words to it.
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# Shake lady, way down south... #
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And I'm thinking,
"Man, this is the guy."
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I've already been working with him,
we're already, you know, simpatico.
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# Hey Negrita, hey now... #
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Woo!
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Well, I mean, we'd all played
together a lot before,
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we knew each other. So that made it
quite easy, in a way,
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to make that choice.
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After months of trying out
different guitarists,
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Ronnie fits right in.
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I mean, there's not a lot of him,
just fit him in anywhere!
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It is London, you know,
and we'd kind of all known...
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I knew him probably better
because I'd been recording with him,
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which made the thing even
more, like, obvious.
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Eventually released
on Black And Blue,
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the writing credit of Hey Negrita
goes to Jagger/Richards, as usual.
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But this time it also says,
"Inspired by Ron Wood."
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Somebody else was going
to be flying in.
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And I said, "Well, cancel them.
What's the point?" you know?
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And they said,
"Yeah, there's no point.
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"Looks like we found what
we're looking for." You know?
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And that is that.
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Ronnie's fate is finally sealed.
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In a moment of peril,
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they didn't really want
a preening virtuoso in the band.
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Eric said, "I could have had that
job." You know?
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I said, "Eric, but you've got to
live with them."
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Tune up, room session.
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Slate one, take three.
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Ow.
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Always used to do that.
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MUSIC: Start Me Up
by The Rolling Stones
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I knew what I had to do.
You know? Even then.
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I knew somebody had to kick them
up the arse, you know?
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And sure enough.
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Ron's my great mate.
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He's a funny fucker.
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# If you start me up
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# If you start me up, I'll never
stop... #
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I've got to go on stage in a
minute.
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If I don't get it up,
they'll never know it's me.
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I mean, Ronnie is one of
the greatest
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naturally funny
people alive.
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And, you know, don't take
anyone too seriously.
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Don't take anything
too seriously.
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Ronnie's kind of
a mischief maker.
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You can just tell.
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Yeah. You know you're
going to have a good time
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when Ronnie walks in the room.
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He just had that
right kind
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of London atmosphere
about him.
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He was the perfect fit
for The Stones, Ronnie Wood.
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He was a very different player
to Mick Taylor,
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who was this rather...
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A brilliant,
sort of meticulous blues player.
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And Ronnie was more of a good time
English band, you know,
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rock on, you know?
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It's the energy
you bring
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that makes
the difference.
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Anybody can play
it like the record.
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But when you go on stage
and you bring it
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and the band goes... "Yeah!"
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..because of what you brought,
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that's what Ronnie did.
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MUSIC: Brown Sugar (live)
The Rolling Stones
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Ronnie is announced as the new
guitarist at a press event
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in Manhattan, the launch
of The Rolling Stones'
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Tour Of The Americas.
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But unseen by the gathered
journalists,
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the band set up their equipment on
the back of a flatbed truck outside.
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They're about to take
the Stones circus
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to the streets of New York City.
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ARCHIVE: It was hard to believe,
but there they were,
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right smack in the middle
of Lower Fifth Avenue.
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You're suddenly out on the streets
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and you're playing fucking
live music!
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It was crazy.
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We had all the press gathered in the
restaurant,
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and they thought The Stones
were going in,
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so we just drove by
playing Brown Sugar
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and they're all there,
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running out of the restaurant
with their pads.
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# Brown Sugar
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# How come it tastes so good? #
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It's more of a fun thing, I thought.
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Not so dangerous.
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The feeling was that you were having
a good time.
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It was a bit of a lark
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and I think it was very much the
Ronnie thing.
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You know, every time you change
a member of the band,
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it's going to take...it's going
to take on another characteristic.
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And Ronnie was certainly
a sense of fun.
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He was more of a showman
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and I think more of a humourist.
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And that really helped.
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Well, you know, he came from The
Faces, where he used to jump about.
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Just very funny, because
that's what he's like.
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And so '75, what he brought
was a whole new sense of purpose.
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We felt a coherence as a band again.
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I think if you had five
Mick and Keiths,
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it could have
been overload.
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You know, you needed
that yin and yang.
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And so, for me, that's the magic
of a band, is the chemistry.
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Finally back in their groove,
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The Stones set out on a monster
46-show trek
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across the United States.
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It was crazy. We'd have Annie
Leibovitz following us everywhere,
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and there'd be journalists
and groupies and madness going on.
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All these different cultures.
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It's just a gathering of people.
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So many different personalities.
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Ronnie had spent years touring
the US with The Faces,
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but the sheer scale of a Stones tour
is something to behold.
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The first time I'd met a band
with any kind of organisation.
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We would get newsletters,
we'd know what we were doing,
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when we were doing it and we'd know
what we were going to be playing.
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All the keys of the songs...
And all this was foreign to me
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from The Faces, because I think
we might have just
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written down a few
songs before, like, "let's do this",
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just before we went on stage.
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"Oh, all right, then." You know,
"We'll have a go at that."
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And it was famous,
The Faces are going...
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"What's next, Ron?"
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With me going,
"What are we doing next, Ron?"
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It was so funny to go from that
to the organisation of The Stones.
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The whirlwind, the hurricane,
the tornado,
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all the highs of being there and the
highs of the dope and the drink.
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My feet never really touched
the ground for many years.
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Ooh!
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God loves you! Woo!
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You know, it was like, "I'm home."
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You know, I had that feeling
of coming home
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when I joined the band,
you know?
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All I knew when I first met Ronnie
is he could be my brother.
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He found his little brother.
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Scene one, act one.
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LAUGHS
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Now, make a cup of tea, Mother.
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Ronnie is well suited to the role
of little brother in The Stones,
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growing up the youngest of three
boys in Yiewsley,
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a working class suburb
of West London.
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Oh, dear family.
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They were so broad minded, really.
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Art, my eldest brother,
and Ted, the middle bro.
486
00:26:55,860 --> 00:26:59,460
They were both artists,
both musicians,
487
00:26:59,460 --> 00:27:00,940
both very encouraging.
488
00:27:00,940 --> 00:27:02,860
Very proud of little Ronnie.
489
00:27:07,660 --> 00:27:11,140
My headmaster used to call me
the artist.
490
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:15,340
And Mum, she used to love that.
491
00:27:17,620 --> 00:27:20,180
He's a wonderful
spirit, Ronnie.
492
00:27:20,180 --> 00:27:21,820
When he sees something
493
00:27:21,820 --> 00:27:24,980
and he wants to capture
that moment, for him.
494
00:27:28,340 --> 00:27:32,580
And he puts it down very beautifully
and describes it in his artwork.
495
00:27:36,140 --> 00:27:37,620
I love painting.
496
00:27:39,220 --> 00:27:42,580
I love combining that with music
and the other way around.
497
00:27:42,580 --> 00:27:46,380
And it's...that's what keeps
my cycle going.
498
00:27:46,380 --> 00:27:48,180
It's fabulous, you know?
499
00:27:48,180 --> 00:27:51,020
And never a dull moment, you know,
in my life.
500
00:27:55,660 --> 00:27:58,940
My family were so supportive.
501
00:27:58,940 --> 00:28:01,260
My dad, when I had long hair,
he'd say,
502
00:28:01,260 --> 00:28:05,180
"You want to look like that kid,
go right ahead."
503
00:28:05,180 --> 00:28:08,780
And I said, "Are you sure, Dad?
504
00:28:08,780 --> 00:28:12,020
"People don't know if I'm a boy or
a girl!"
505
00:28:12,020 --> 00:28:14,100
And he said, you know, you're you.
506
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:20,380
Ronnie's family had a strong
identity all their own.
507
00:28:22,220 --> 00:28:24,580
My mum was born on the boat
called the Orient.
508
00:28:24,580 --> 00:28:27,300
My dad was born on the Antelope.
509
00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:33,180
My parents and all of my family
going back to 1700s,
510
00:28:33,180 --> 00:28:35,100
they're all on the water,
511
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:38,620
they're on the longboats
and the barges.
512
00:28:38,620 --> 00:28:41,820
Water gypsies, really.
513
00:28:41,820 --> 00:28:43,540
My mum told me,
514
00:28:43,540 --> 00:28:47,020
Grandad Wood,
he had one family up north
515
00:28:47,020 --> 00:28:48,860
and one in Paddington.
516
00:28:48,860 --> 00:28:51,060
She said, "Dirty old sod."
517
00:28:56,940 --> 00:28:58,460
I'm a nomad.
518
00:28:58,460 --> 00:29:00,140
We live out of suitcases.
519
00:29:00,140 --> 00:29:01,460
That's what we do.
520
00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:05,700
Dad always used to tell me
all the different routes
521
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:07,420
that he would take.
522
00:29:07,420 --> 00:29:10,060
If I was out of line, he'd
always say,
523
00:29:10,060 --> 00:29:12,660
"Where do you think you are,
on your father's yacht?"
524
00:29:15,580 --> 00:29:20,460
It's definitely a flow there that
comes with the nomadic lifestyle
525
00:29:20,460 --> 00:29:26,060
of mooring up somewhere, you know,
and having vague memories as a kid
526
00:29:26,060 --> 00:29:32,220
of sweet milk, the condensed milk
down in the cabin with my dad
527
00:29:32,220 --> 00:29:35,020
on his...on his buggy.
528
00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:42,380
It was the end of a legacy, really.
529
00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:44,020
You know, my brothers and me
530
00:29:44,020 --> 00:29:46,580
being the first to be born
on dry land.
531
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:53,460
My parents had this way about them
of connecting and adapting that...
532
00:29:54,580 --> 00:29:57,140
..I'm sure I've inherited, you know.
533
00:30:02,020 --> 00:30:04,540
KEITH: In this band, it works on two
guitars, you know?
534
00:30:04,540 --> 00:30:06,740
And it's very important who
they are.
535
00:30:06,740 --> 00:30:07,860
CHUCKLES
536
00:30:07,860 --> 00:30:10,100
That is the basis of the band,
537
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:12,700
how these two guitars work together.
538
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:17,300
In Ronnie, The Stones finally find
a guitarist perfectly suited
539
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:19,340
to life on the road
540
00:30:19,340 --> 00:30:21,380
AND playing with Keith.
541
00:30:22,820 --> 00:30:25,540
And Ronnie had to
learn every Stones song.
542
00:30:25,540 --> 00:30:27,300
So we know that.
543
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:29,820
But how do you fit in?
544
00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:36,460
What part of you has to be
exactly like the record?
545
00:30:36,460 --> 00:30:38,500
TAPE DECK CLICKS
546
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:40,980
MUSIC PLAYS
547
00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:43,940
Keith would run me through a few
things of what he could remember
548
00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:45,860
of the arrangements and stuff.
549
00:30:47,820 --> 00:30:50,100
Because Ronnie had been boarding
our plane,
550
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:52,100
he knew it better than I did.
551
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:53,340
And I would correct him.
552
00:30:53,340 --> 00:30:55,500
I'd say, "No, that song fades
out on the album.
553
00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:57,940
"You haven't got an ending.
We're going to have to find one."
554
00:30:57,940 --> 00:30:59,500
He's like, "Oh, yeah, you're right."
555
00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:01,860
He said, "Just because I wrote them
556
00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:04,420
"doesn't necessarily mean
I know them."
557
00:31:04,420 --> 00:31:07,100
# I've been so sad since you've been
gone. #
558
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:09,500
Ronnie is dropped in
at the deep end.
559
00:31:10,660 --> 00:31:12,740
It's just navigation.
560
00:31:12,740 --> 00:31:17,060
The ancient mariners used
to use the stars.
561
00:31:17,060 --> 00:31:19,940
We used the upcoming break.
562
00:31:25,420 --> 00:31:28,700
Or you know, everyone knows
they've gotta...stop.
563
00:31:32,420 --> 00:31:34,340
Or look a fool.
564
00:31:38,860 --> 00:31:42,660
Navigating a live show is
all about reading the signs
565
00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:45,300
and the odd bit of verbal
communication.
566
00:31:48,940 --> 00:31:50,500
"I love you."
567
00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:56,820
Or "what the hell do you think
you're doing?"
568
00:31:56,820 --> 00:31:58,500
"What the hell was that?"
569
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:04,260
"What is he doing?!"
570
00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:07,420
"What are YOU doing?!"
571
00:32:07,420 --> 00:32:09,220
You know, like, what?
572
00:32:09,220 --> 00:32:10,820
Oh, it was so funny.
573
00:32:19,340 --> 00:32:23,700
THEY PLAY:
Hey Hey by Big Bill Broonzy
574
00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:28,300
And Ronnie's other assignment
was to be Keith's buddy.
575
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:30,300
Buddy he could play with,
576
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:32,940
because that's where the ideas come
from, you know,
577
00:32:32,940 --> 00:32:34,660
with acoustic guitars.
578
00:32:38,660 --> 00:32:41,460
And there'd be beautiful girls
and Keith and I would forget
579
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:44,380
that they were there because we'd be
playing and playing and there'd
580
00:32:44,380 --> 00:32:46,940
be these beautiful girls looking
at their watches, going...
581
00:32:46,940 --> 00:32:49,140
And yawning, "Oh, fuck, I've been
here three days
582
00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:51,020
"and he ain't even said hello."
You know?
583
00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:53,940
"I'll be right there. I've just got
to do this." You know?
584
00:32:53,940 --> 00:32:58,220
I think the music was so powerful
that it just overrode everything.
585
00:33:00,260 --> 00:33:04,220
It's an obsession that started
at a young age.
586
00:33:04,220 --> 00:33:07,300
When I was in short pants,
the household
587
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:09,420
was always throbbing.
588
00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:12,020
Everyone was a performer.
589
00:33:12,020 --> 00:33:14,740
When they played, they used to
include me,
590
00:33:14,740 --> 00:33:19,140
whether it was on the comb and paper
or kazoo or...
591
00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:21,460
My first instrument was
the washboard.
592
00:33:21,460 --> 00:33:23,340
# I don't care what Mama don't allow
593
00:33:23,340 --> 00:33:25,540
# Gonna play that music any old how
594
00:33:25,540 --> 00:33:29,420
# Mama don't allow no washboard
played in here, ba-ba-ba. #
595
00:33:29,420 --> 00:33:31,380
Then you take off into a solo.
596
00:33:35,660 --> 00:33:38,220
You had to do a 12-bar solo
on your own.
597
00:33:38,220 --> 00:33:40,740
And it was like, "Oh, my God,"
you know?
598
00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:42,340
It was like, the camera's on me.
599
00:33:42,340 --> 00:33:44,460
Then I'd try my luck on
the comb and paper
600
00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:46,180
and I'd try and play the trumpet.
601
00:33:48,780 --> 00:33:50,620
He's a good drummer as well,
actually.
602
00:33:50,620 --> 00:33:52,020
Maniac type.
603
00:33:52,020 --> 00:33:53,940
I mean, he's had to go at
everything, actually.
604
00:33:53,940 --> 00:33:56,260
Suddenly he turns up with a cornet.
605
00:33:56,260 --> 00:33:58,340
Then he was going to be
a saxophone player.
606
00:33:58,340 --> 00:34:01,260
Put up with him walking about,
honking all over the place.
607
00:34:03,860 --> 00:34:06,860
Ronnie Wood is one of
the most inspired,
608
00:34:06,860 --> 00:34:09,540
brilliant musicians I've ever
encountered.
609
00:34:09,540 --> 00:34:12,660
You know, you can put any instrument
in his hands.
610
00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:18,900
I love the fact that Ronnie
is the catalyst.
611
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:21,020
You know, he's the guy that can
bring it all together
612
00:34:21,020 --> 00:34:23,700
and he's the guy that can sit
down and figure it out
613
00:34:23,700 --> 00:34:25,380
and make it work.
614
00:34:25,380 --> 00:34:27,180
My ego has to stand aside.
615
00:34:27,180 --> 00:34:29,020
I'm too busy concentrating,
you know?
616
00:34:29,020 --> 00:34:31,580
I'm too busy learning
and going, like,
617
00:34:31,580 --> 00:34:34,740
"OK, this needs a pedal steel
guitar.
618
00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:36,420
"I'll learn how to play it."
619
00:34:40,060 --> 00:34:42,940
For Ronnie, I think joining
an existing band
620
00:34:42,940 --> 00:34:44,340
like The Rolling Stones
621
00:34:44,340 --> 00:34:49,020
was something of an artistically
Faustian bargain that he made,
622
00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:52,540
which is you get to be a part
of the greatest band ever,
623
00:34:52,540 --> 00:34:54,420
and that's exhilarating,
624
00:34:54,420 --> 00:34:58,500
but you also aren't going to be
allowed to do all the things
625
00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:01,820
that you're capable of for the sake
of fitting into this band.
626
00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:06,500
# It's over there
627
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:08,180
# Over there... #
628
00:35:08,180 --> 00:35:11,660
What's that?
Cha-cha and off.
629
00:35:11,660 --> 00:35:14,660
Keith, rub your face against mine.
I forgot to put make-up on.
630
00:35:14,660 --> 00:35:16,380
Hi, Peter. Yeah, sure.
631
00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:19,660
Yeah, I think Keith had a
friendship with Ronnie,
632
00:35:19,660 --> 00:35:24,740
more so than he had with Mick
or with Brian.
633
00:35:24,740 --> 00:35:27,860
Of course, there's a lot of drugs
involved at the time.
634
00:35:29,140 --> 00:35:32,820
Anyone going to go with Keith was
always going to be a problem.
635
00:35:32,820 --> 00:35:34,580
It's true, Ronnie. Look.
636
00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:39,580
And back on the American tour,
637
00:35:39,580 --> 00:35:42,780
the Keith and Ronnie double act
is about to put on a show
638
00:35:42,780 --> 00:35:45,060
for the residents of Fordyce,
Arkansas.
639
00:35:49,780 --> 00:35:51,780
Tell us what happened.
640
00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:54,900
Er, if I could, I would,
but I just don't believe it.
641
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:58,300
Jay, let me borrow...
I'll buy that hat from you.
642
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:02,900
The police observed a car swerving
on the road,
643
00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:06,900
and police stopped him as a result.
644
00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:10,820
We stopped in a roadside cafe,
645
00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:13,940
and Keith and I were in
the bathroom,
646
00:36:13,940 --> 00:36:16,100
high and stuff for a couple
of hours.
647
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:18,220
And people had reported that these
two guys
648
00:36:18,220 --> 00:36:19,660
still haven't come out, you know?
649
00:36:19,660 --> 00:36:23,340
In those little hick towns,
it caused a big stir.
650
00:36:27,180 --> 00:36:29,420
When the police came in,
651
00:36:29,420 --> 00:36:32,380
we were juggling different
kinds of dope
652
00:36:32,380 --> 00:36:34,260
and different kinds of smoke,
653
00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:38,020
doing sleight of hand and,
"Oh, look over there! Bump."
654
00:36:38,020 --> 00:36:41,060
EMG is "everything must go".
655
00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:43,020
That's when you're coming up
to a border.
656
00:36:43,020 --> 00:36:45,260
There's smoke everywhere. And
then open a window
657
00:36:45,260 --> 00:36:47,020
and chuck the rest of the stash out.
658
00:36:47,020 --> 00:36:48,700
It's a rule, you know?
659
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:53,780
Toss it all.
EMG, everything must go.
660
00:36:53,780 --> 00:36:56,020
Police have been very good
to us here
661
00:36:56,020 --> 00:36:59,980
and treated the group with respect
and been very courteous to us.
662
00:36:59,980 --> 00:37:02,820
They were not placed in a jail cell.
663
00:37:02,820 --> 00:37:05,860
They were just detained in
the office for a short period
664
00:37:05,860 --> 00:37:07,780
of time while the vehicle
was searched.
665
00:37:07,780 --> 00:37:10,860
I got rid of all the stuff out of
the window, you know?
666
00:37:10,860 --> 00:37:13,540
So, by the time we got there,
they said,
667
00:37:13,540 --> 00:37:15,020
"Right, we're looking in there!"
668
00:37:15,020 --> 00:37:18,100
"You won't find anything," because,
you know, it had all gone.
669
00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:21,780
Then we were in the courtroom.
The whole town came out.
670
00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:23,780
We took over the courtroom.
671
00:37:23,780 --> 00:37:26,420
Keith and I got up
on the judge's thing.
672
00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:27,980
Oh, we had the gavel.
673
00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:32,020
We were swapping, doing autographs,
and swapping hats
674
00:37:32,020 --> 00:37:34,020
with people and stuff.
675
00:37:42,180 --> 00:37:44,780
All the shit that we take for
granted when we we're touring
676
00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:46,620
and all that red carpet shit,
and hotels
677
00:37:46,620 --> 00:37:47,860
and this, that and the other,
678
00:37:47,860 --> 00:37:49,020
when those guys did it,
679
00:37:49,020 --> 00:37:51,220
the only people that liked them
were the fans.
680
00:37:51,220 --> 00:37:55,260
Nobody catered to rock bands on
the road back then, you know?
681
00:37:55,260 --> 00:37:57,540
Nobody wanted them around.
They were dirty.
682
00:37:57,540 --> 00:37:59,260
They did drugs.
683
00:37:59,260 --> 00:38:04,420
Public enemy number one in the
United States is drug abuse.
684
00:38:05,860 --> 00:38:08,260
You know, they went totally against
the grain
685
00:38:08,260 --> 00:38:09,540
back in those days.
686
00:38:09,540 --> 00:38:11,660
You know, they were the fucking
real deal.
687
00:38:14,580 --> 00:38:17,740
The drug-fuelled misadventures
of the '75 tour
688
00:38:17,740 --> 00:38:20,140
only sealed the bond
between Keith and Ronnie.
689
00:38:22,780 --> 00:38:24,820
CHEERING
690
00:38:26,180 --> 00:38:29,940
I started this, The Rolling Stones,
with Brian Jones,
691
00:38:29,940 --> 00:38:31,780
a certain kind of guitar player.
692
00:38:31,780 --> 00:38:34,220
And we developed a sort
of sound there.
693
00:38:34,220 --> 00:38:36,260
Then came Mick Taylor.
694
00:38:36,260 --> 00:38:38,660
Totally different guitar player.
695
00:38:38,660 --> 00:38:41,340
We had to separate the rhythm
from the lead.
696
00:38:41,340 --> 00:38:45,340
And then I started to work with
Ronnie and I am thinking,
697
00:38:45,340 --> 00:38:47,420
"Man, this is the guy."
698
00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:52,380
You know, when you think about
Ronnie and his ability
699
00:38:52,380 --> 00:38:57,220
to intertwine with what it is
that Keith does,
700
00:38:57,220 --> 00:38:59,460
I think that that's a great gift.
701
00:39:01,020 --> 00:39:04,420
If God himself created the perfect
foil for Keith,
702
00:39:04,420 --> 00:39:07,100
it had to have been Ronnie Wood.
703
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:11,180
# I don't need no beast
of burden... #
704
00:39:11,180 --> 00:39:14,020
Ronnie's ability to play both rhythm
and lead
705
00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:16,860
creates endless possibilities
for Keith,
706
00:39:16,860 --> 00:39:19,900
and their friendship becomes part
of their sound.
707
00:39:22,020 --> 00:39:24,220
You know, you still think of Ronnie
as the new guy,
708
00:39:24,220 --> 00:39:28,060
and I'm sure that's just the
way it is with the band.
709
00:39:28,060 --> 00:39:31,140
But when Ronnie came into it,
I think he pushed Keith
710
00:39:31,140 --> 00:39:32,620
back out into the front again.
711
00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:36,100
I think he inspired Keith
to start playing again.
712
00:39:40,780 --> 00:39:42,340
They play very well together.
713
00:39:42,340 --> 00:39:45,020
Keith loves Ronnie playing
because he could...
714
00:39:45,020 --> 00:39:46,860
It's like interchanging.
715
00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:51,100
I don't know. I don't listen
to either of them!
716
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:56,100
GUITAR RIFF
717
00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:03,620
We are the axeman and we cometh.
718
00:40:07,140 --> 00:40:10,180
That relationship is really special.
719
00:40:10,180 --> 00:40:16,020
It's really special because they are
actually feeding off each other.
720
00:40:16,020 --> 00:40:19,780
It's kind of a call and a response.
721
00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:22,660
Keith calls, Ronnie responds.
722
00:40:22,660 --> 00:40:24,980
Ronnie calls, Keith responds.
723
00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:28,020
When you hear them, I'm not sure
which guitarist
724
00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:29,700
I'm hearing at any given time.
725
00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:31,820
It's all chords hitting
guitar rhythms,
726
00:40:31,820 --> 00:40:33,060
guitar riffs,
727
00:40:33,060 --> 00:40:37,020
and good old Ronnie probably
played a lot of the stuff
728
00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:38,820
that Keith gets credit for.
729
00:40:38,820 --> 00:40:42,580
They become one person
with four arms.
730
00:40:42,580 --> 00:40:45,940
They are weaving this guitar web.
731
00:40:47,180 --> 00:40:51,740
The ancient art of weaving is
a matter of give and take.
732
00:40:51,740 --> 00:40:55,180
It's the space between
what you play.
733
00:40:55,180 --> 00:40:57,540
It's the meaning of what you play.
734
00:40:57,540 --> 00:41:00,140
And no overindulgence.
735
00:41:00,140 --> 00:41:04,700
And when you get two basket cases
working with each other,
736
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:07,140
you have an early form of weaving.
737
00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:13,820
I love watching Ronnie
and Keith weave.
738
00:41:13,820 --> 00:41:16,220
It's so interesting to me the way
that they rehearse.
739
00:41:16,220 --> 00:41:18,100
It's not like they're looking
at charts.
740
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:20,020
They're not chart guys.
741
00:41:20,020 --> 00:41:21,700
That is not what they do.
742
00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:25,340
They are feeling, breathing,
743
00:41:25,340 --> 00:41:29,420
living through the fingers guys.
744
00:41:29,420 --> 00:41:33,740
And so they're free enough
to not care about making
745
00:41:33,740 --> 00:41:38,100
what would be considered a mistake
with normal human beings.
746
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:41,340
GUITAR RIFF
747
00:41:54,580 --> 00:41:58,420
We have a knack of, if one goes
this way,
748
00:41:58,420 --> 00:42:00,020
the other one is sliding this way.
749
00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:03,820
It's like, if a solo comes up
on a certain number,
750
00:42:03,820 --> 00:42:06,540
we don't even look at each other.
751
00:42:06,540 --> 00:42:08,700
If I want to take the solo,
I'll take it, right?
752
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:10,340
And if he wants to take it,
he'll take it.
753
00:42:10,340 --> 00:42:13,020
Really? You leave it as loose
as that? Oh, yeah.
754
00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:16,260
Are there ever any nights
when neither of you take it?
755
00:42:16,260 --> 00:42:18,260
Yeah, that's when he's knocked
me out
756
00:42:18,260 --> 00:42:19,700
or I've knocked him out.
757
00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:26,260
The beauty of The Stones is
that you never know.
758
00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:29,020
They're always walking a tightrope.
759
00:42:29,020 --> 00:42:31,260
Expect the unexpected.
760
00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:38,620
But that highwire act isn't
just down to natural chemistry.
761
00:42:45,140 --> 00:42:47,020
When the drugs worked,
you had a line
762
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:48,980
of really good pharmaceutical,
763
00:42:48,980 --> 00:42:51,780
you had a great song coming out
of it, you know?
764
00:42:51,780 --> 00:42:53,900
Or a great painting.
765
00:42:55,460 --> 00:42:58,340
A lot of it was the ritual -
the rolling of the joint,
766
00:42:58,340 --> 00:42:59,940
the filling of the pipe.
767
00:42:59,940 --> 00:43:03,300
And then that would be set
against the ritual
768
00:43:03,300 --> 00:43:06,180
of the way the music was structured.
769
00:43:06,180 --> 00:43:11,460
That gave you
the feeling of invincibility,
770
00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:13,620
that you could tackle anything.
771
00:43:17,380 --> 00:43:20,340
But off stage, some start
to refer to Ronnie
772
00:43:20,340 --> 00:43:22,260
as the Sorcerer's Apprentice.
773
00:43:24,420 --> 00:43:27,660
I think Sorcerer's Apprentice
is quite a compliment.
774
00:43:27,660 --> 00:43:29,780
Er, because I was in a way...
775
00:43:29,780 --> 00:43:33,180
I was being broken in
to really dangerous ground.
776
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:36,540
People really were dying,
you know,
777
00:43:36,540 --> 00:43:38,980
to try and keep up with Keith's
drug intake.
778
00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:44,300
We used to party heavy.
779
00:43:44,300 --> 00:43:48,860
There was a whole series of decades
where we were all really high.
780
00:43:50,020 --> 00:43:54,340
Even in our most spaced-out days,
there was like a little switch.
781
00:43:54,340 --> 00:43:57,540
We'd go, "OK, I've got to go
on stage now."
782
00:43:57,540 --> 00:43:59,940
Like, "I've got to get it together."
783
00:43:59,940 --> 00:44:03,460
I think that's what saved
my life a lot,
784
00:44:03,460 --> 00:44:05,940
and all of our lives during the
heavy using years,
785
00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:10,260
was the actual focus
of having to get it together,
786
00:44:10,260 --> 00:44:13,980
to be in front of an audience
and give them what they wanted.
787
00:44:13,980 --> 00:44:16,260
Obviously the downside...
788
00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:18,380
It depends what drugs
you're talking about.
789
00:44:18,380 --> 00:44:20,780
It depends how they react on you.
790
00:44:20,780 --> 00:44:23,700
The hard stuff - it ain't called
the hard stuff for nothing.
791
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:27,220
And you better be hard enough
to deal with it, that's all.
792
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:33,100
In 1978, Keith narrowly escapes
a heavy prison sentence
793
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:37,620
in Canada for heroin possession
and decides to clean up.
794
00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:40,420
But just as he's turning away
from hard drugs,
795
00:44:40,420 --> 00:44:42,660
Ronnie sinks further into addiction.
796
00:44:45,740 --> 00:44:47,380
In the crazy days,
797
00:44:47,380 --> 00:44:52,100
it got out of hand when it was
the base pipe.
798
00:44:53,540 --> 00:44:56,620
Freebasing crack cocaine became
a dangerous obsession
799
00:44:56,620 --> 00:44:59,860
in the LA music scene
in the late 1970s.
800
00:44:59,860 --> 00:45:02,380
I used to quite innocently think
it was the best thing going.
801
00:45:02,380 --> 00:45:03,900
I used to take it to parties
and go,
802
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:06,300
"Everybody, you've got to try this!"
803
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:10,660
But within a few years,
freebasing becomes an epidemic.
804
00:45:10,660 --> 00:45:12,180
Crack cocaine.
805
00:45:12,180 --> 00:45:14,140
It's as innocent looking as candy,
806
00:45:14,140 --> 00:45:16,500
but it's turning our cities
into battle zones.
807
00:45:18,580 --> 00:45:22,100
It got to the point where it wasn't
funny any more, you know?
808
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:25,500
It was just that getting high
with that pipe was frightening.
809
00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:27,020
Do anything for it.
810
00:45:28,020 --> 00:45:32,020
When it came to freebasing,
I was like, "This is nuts!"
811
00:45:32,020 --> 00:45:34,500
You know? It had to stop.
812
00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:41,900
Easier said than done.
813
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:44,820
By the summer of 1981,
The Stones are preparing
814
00:45:44,820 --> 00:45:47,300
for another huge tour
of the United States.
815
00:45:48,460 --> 00:45:50,300
There's only one problem -
816
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:52,420
finding an insurance company
that will cover
817
00:45:52,420 --> 00:45:55,460
an increasingly out-of-control
Ronnie.
818
00:45:55,460 --> 00:46:00,100
Faced with the very real prospect
of his sideman being left behind,
819
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:02,540
Keith makes an offer.
820
00:46:02,540 --> 00:46:05,060
There were some problems
with Ronnie.
821
00:46:06,580 --> 00:46:09,060
"I'll cover it."
822
00:46:06,580 --> 00:46:09,060
KEITH LAUGHS
823
00:46:09,060 --> 00:46:11,740
Because to me, Ronnie's out of
Rolling Stones.
824
00:46:11,740 --> 00:46:15,380
I need that man like, you know,
I need breathing.
825
00:46:19,620 --> 00:46:21,660
The '81 tour starts well,
826
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:24,420
but ten days in,
Keith gets news that Ronnie
827
00:46:24,420 --> 00:46:27,140
is freebasing crack
in his hotel room.
828
00:46:27,140 --> 00:46:29,380
Ronnie was on the other side
of the hotel
829
00:46:29,380 --> 00:46:33,740
and somebody had come up, I think,
"He's doing the stuff up there."
830
00:46:33,740 --> 00:46:35,940
You know? He'd promised me
he wouldn't
831
00:46:35,940 --> 00:46:38,940
because I'd been guaranteeing
that he wouldn't, da-da-da.
832
00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:41,700
So he was sort of letting me down
a little bit.
833
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:43,420
I was just up there getting high,
you know?
834
00:46:43,420 --> 00:46:44,660
In the way he didn't like it.
835
00:46:44,660 --> 00:46:46,380
He didn't agree with the pipe.
836
00:46:48,940 --> 00:46:52,820
# The whip comes down, yeah. #
837
00:46:52,820 --> 00:46:56,220
And he thought I had another woman,
because he's terribly moral.
838
00:46:57,740 --> 00:47:02,020
I flew into a rage...
839
00:46:57,740 --> 00:47:02,020
KEITH LAUGHS
840
00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:05,380
..and zoomed through the hotel.
841
00:47:05,380 --> 00:47:08,380
There's a whole posse of people
going around the corridors
842
00:47:08,380 --> 00:47:10,100
searching for me.
843
00:47:12,460 --> 00:47:16,580
So I get to Ronnie's room
and knock on the door.
844
00:47:16,580 --> 00:47:18,420
I finally came out.
845
00:47:18,420 --> 00:47:20,620
I smell the stuff coming out.
846
00:47:20,620 --> 00:47:22,060
"You cu..."
847
00:47:24,340 --> 00:47:26,060
So I gave him some back.
848
00:47:29,940 --> 00:47:31,900
We all fall into Ronnie's room.
849
00:47:31,900 --> 00:47:33,540
He tries to land one on me.
850
00:47:33,540 --> 00:47:35,260
The couch goes over.
851
00:47:35,260 --> 00:47:37,500
Bam, Ronnie's about to fall out
the window,
852
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:40,860
so I grab him and
then everything stops.
853
00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:44,020
And then laughter,
and that was that.
854
00:47:44,020 --> 00:47:47,300
Yeah, that was the one bundle.
855
00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:50,620
We laughed it off, and I went
into the next room
856
00:47:50,620 --> 00:47:53,940
and there's Mick and Charlie
on the floor.
857
00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:56,100
They're playing some game
on the floor.
858
00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:58,740
And I went, "Look at me,
I'm covered in blood!"
859
00:47:58,740 --> 00:48:01,220
And they just sort of went,
you know, like,
860
00:48:01,220 --> 00:48:03,100
"OK, right, your move."
861
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:08,140
And that's brothers.
They are brothers.
862
00:48:08,140 --> 00:48:11,460
Like it or not,
that is your brother.
863
00:48:11,460 --> 00:48:14,220
Keith can talk shit about Ronnie,
864
00:48:14,220 --> 00:48:15,700
but you can't.
865
00:48:15,700 --> 00:48:17,460
"No, I'LL do that."
866
00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:20,260
"That's my place."
Nobody's place but his.
867
00:48:29,020 --> 00:48:32,020
Ronnie eventually manages
to quit smoking crack,
868
00:48:32,020 --> 00:48:37,500
but his drug taking and drinking
will go on for another 30 years.
869
00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:40,260
The pot calling the kettle black
is one thing,
870
00:48:40,260 --> 00:48:43,820
but sometimes I thought he was
a little reckless with it.
871
00:48:45,220 --> 00:48:49,220
Mick and Keith stuck up for
Ronnie through a lot.
872
00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:51,660
You know, when Ronnie was drinking.
873
00:48:51,660 --> 00:48:54,340
Like we all were, but Ronnie
was more.
874
00:48:54,340 --> 00:48:56,260
Everything's more with Ronnie.
875
00:48:56,260 --> 00:48:59,740
Mick said, "Do you think you might
need a little help?
876
00:48:59,740 --> 00:49:01,180
"Do you think you would do that?"
877
00:49:01,180 --> 00:49:03,620
And I said,
"Sure, I'll give it a go."
878
00:49:03,620 --> 00:49:06,820
He said, "When do you want
to do it?"
879
00:49:06,820 --> 00:49:08,540
And I said, "Oh, a couple of weeks."
880
00:49:08,540 --> 00:49:10,300
He said, "What about tomorrow?"
You know?
881
00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:13,540
And I said, "OK, I like
a challenge. Let's start."
882
00:49:13,540 --> 00:49:16,180
That was my first rehab.
883
00:49:19,420 --> 00:49:23,620
He had so many goes at kicking
whatever it was. Drinking.
884
00:49:23,620 --> 00:49:26,260
I mean, he must have had
so many counsellors.
885
00:49:26,260 --> 00:49:28,860
Being Ronnie, of course, "Come in!"
886
00:49:28,860 --> 00:49:31,020
And you'd meet this bloke
you'd never met.
887
00:49:31,020 --> 00:49:33,780
And then there'd be another one
three months later.
888
00:49:33,780 --> 00:49:37,460
"Come in!" And you'd all have
to say hello.
889
00:49:37,460 --> 00:49:39,060
After doing it for so many years,
890
00:49:39,060 --> 00:49:41,540
your body thinks it needs it,
you know?
891
00:49:41,540 --> 00:49:44,020
Well, your body is saying,
"Give me some,
892
00:49:44,020 --> 00:49:45,900
"but I can't handle it any more."
893
00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:51,420
It was the beginning of me
seeing the light.
894
00:49:53,380 --> 00:49:56,660
You know, he really wanted
to be a sober person,
895
00:49:56,660 --> 00:49:58,300
but it was very difficult to do,
896
00:49:58,300 --> 00:50:01,340
and it is difficult to do if you've
been doing it all your life.
897
00:50:01,340 --> 00:50:04,060
GUITAR RIFF
898
00:50:10,620 --> 00:50:14,340
It's very difficult. You go through
a dry period and you go,
899
00:50:14,340 --> 00:50:18,540
"I've done it! I've cleaned up!
So now I can have just one!"
900
00:50:18,540 --> 00:50:21,980
And that's the big mistake,
cos you can't have just one.
901
00:50:23,940 --> 00:50:27,420
But in 2010,
Ronnie finally gets clean,
902
00:50:27,420 --> 00:50:28,900
aged 63.
903
00:50:31,580 --> 00:50:34,540
I did it with the help of people -
with the Fellowship, they call it.
904
00:50:34,540 --> 00:50:35,940
It's a wonderful thing.
905
00:50:35,940 --> 00:50:38,180
I did 90 meetings in 90 days,
906
00:50:38,180 --> 00:50:41,020
and I did 90 meetings
in 90 days again.
907
00:50:41,020 --> 00:50:42,740
I loved every minute of it.
908
00:50:43,740 --> 00:50:46,500
I've never come down from
the serenity
909
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:48,860
that I got from that since.
910
00:50:48,860 --> 00:50:50,620
I don't think I ever will.
911
00:50:50,620 --> 00:50:52,300
I mean, it's a good feeling.
912
00:50:55,140 --> 00:50:59,380
And now Keith Richards is going
to sing for you Little T&A!
913
00:51:06,180 --> 00:51:09,540
# She's my little rock 'n' roll
914
00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:12,060
# Oh
915
00:51:12,060 --> 00:51:15,700
# Oh, she's my little
rock 'n' roll...
916
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:18,780
But in the aftermath of Ronnie's
fight with Keith,
917
00:51:18,780 --> 00:51:22,020
it's the other relationship at the
heart of The Rolling Stones
918
00:51:22,020 --> 00:51:23,660
that's in need of rehab.
919
00:51:25,380 --> 00:51:27,940
Keith, tell me a little bit about
your relationship with Mick.
920
00:51:27,940 --> 00:51:30,460
Er... You're celebrating the 20th
anniversary of the band.
921
00:51:30,460 --> 00:51:35,180
Yeah, I've known him since
he was about four or five.
922
00:51:35,180 --> 00:51:37,420
When we first went to school.
923
00:51:37,420 --> 00:51:38,940
The most recent information is
924
00:51:38,940 --> 00:51:42,500
the pair of them last night,
in his room, fantastic.
925
00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:45,420
I left them alone. I thought,
"If you can get on
926
00:51:45,420 --> 00:51:48,140
"this well, knowing each other
from four,
927
00:51:48,140 --> 00:51:49,740
"and now you're both 80!
928
00:51:49,740 --> 00:51:52,500
"I mean, that's an amazing thing!"
929
00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:56,020
No, they get on great.
Oh, you are a wit.
930
00:51:57,140 --> 00:51:59,420
# She's my little rock 'n' roll... #
931
00:51:59,420 --> 00:52:02,020
Ronnie's a great mediator
between the two.
932
00:52:02,020 --> 00:52:06,340
He notices frictions and things
and likes to heal the wounds.
933
00:52:06,340 --> 00:52:08,700
You know? Ronnie's always been
emotionally sensitive.
934
00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:11,220
You know? Ronnie doesn't like
confrontation, I don't think.
935
00:52:11,220 --> 00:52:12,420
Don't like aggro.
936
00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:15,700
There's all kinds of girlfriend,
management rumours,
937
00:52:15,700 --> 00:52:17,580
people putting the spoke in,
saying,
938
00:52:17,580 --> 00:52:19,860
"He said this about you, you know?"
939
00:52:19,860 --> 00:52:22,540
You know? We have to let
all that ride.
940
00:52:22,540 --> 00:52:25,900
You know? You can't be affected
by all that.
941
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:29,180
# She's my little rock 'n' roll. #
942
00:52:29,180 --> 00:52:31,020
Bill, come in a little bit.
943
00:52:31,020 --> 00:52:33,900
The band had been together
for 60 years.
944
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:36,180
But there were moments
when The Stones came
945
00:52:36,180 --> 00:52:38,060
very close to breaking up.
946
00:52:40,860 --> 00:52:42,660
Yeah, there have been a couple
of spots
947
00:52:42,660 --> 00:52:44,700
where it was quite possible.
948
00:52:44,700 --> 00:52:50,580
There was a possibility, I suppose,
around the time Ronnie joined,
949
00:52:50,580 --> 00:52:52,140
when Mick Taylor had left.
950
00:52:52,140 --> 00:52:56,220
And there was a possibility
in the '80s
951
00:52:56,220 --> 00:52:58,820
when Mick wanted to do solo work.
952
00:52:58,820 --> 00:53:02,100
Thanks, Mother. Love you.
953
00:52:58,820 --> 00:53:02,100
KEITH LAUGHS
954
00:53:06,940 --> 00:53:10,740
Mick releases his first solo album,
She's The Boss,
955
00:53:10,740 --> 00:53:13,220
in February, 1985.
956
00:53:13,220 --> 00:53:15,580
A few weeks later, The Stones go
into the studio
957
00:53:15,580 --> 00:53:18,820
to start sessions for the album
that would become Dirty Work.
958
00:53:18,820 --> 00:53:21,060
Yeah, remember tempo. Because
it's the second only one
959
00:53:21,060 --> 00:53:22,580
on the album that's slow.
960
00:53:24,500 --> 00:53:26,420
Hold it down. No, let's take
it easy.
961
00:53:26,420 --> 00:53:27,740
We ain't trying to cut a track.
962
00:53:27,740 --> 00:53:30,340
All we're trying to do is keep
an idea on tap.
963
00:53:31,540 --> 00:53:35,980
This time, even Ronnie isn't able
to lighten the mood.
964
00:53:35,980 --> 00:53:39,020
When I got there, it was bad.
965
00:53:39,020 --> 00:53:41,020
It was bad.
966
00:53:41,020 --> 00:53:43,780
Stop passing the buck.
967
00:53:43,780 --> 00:53:46,900
Speed it up right away
and you fuck the notes up.
968
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:49,460
Do you have the desire to go
back on tour for a while?
969
00:53:49,460 --> 00:53:51,820
I love to go on the road,
but right now, I think,
970
00:53:51,820 --> 00:53:53,460
to be perfectly honest,
971
00:53:53,460 --> 00:53:56,180
after a year in the studio
with The Rolling Stones,
972
00:53:56,180 --> 00:53:59,420
I could do with a little time
away from them. Right.
973
00:53:59,420 --> 00:54:01,700
I mean, you know, I think it's
a little bit...
974
00:54:01,700 --> 00:54:04,020
The relationships are a little
bit fragile and, I think,
975
00:54:04,020 --> 00:54:07,700
to go on the road, that would show
on stage. OK.
976
00:54:07,700 --> 00:54:09,540
I've heard them have arguments.
977
00:54:09,540 --> 00:54:13,580
I could hear the screaming
through the door.
978
00:54:13,580 --> 00:54:17,260
Yeah, it was the hatred from Keith
that was really severe.
979
00:54:17,260 --> 00:54:18,740
Didn't want his name mentioned,
980
00:54:18,740 --> 00:54:21,100
didn't want to ever see him again,
and blah blah blah.
981
00:54:21,100 --> 00:54:24,780
And...it was just bad vibes.
982
00:54:24,780 --> 00:54:30,780
And the pair of them were not
going to make up this time.
983
00:54:32,180 --> 00:54:35,700
The Stones are off the road
indefinitely.
984
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:38,460
Those around the band wonder if
this might finally
985
00:54:38,460 --> 00:54:40,980
be the end of it all.
986
00:54:40,980 --> 00:54:44,380
We've read a great deal about your
relationship with Mick recently,
987
00:54:44,380 --> 00:54:47,420
that you want to go on tour and Mick
doesn't want to go on tour,
988
00:54:47,420 --> 00:54:49,580
and that's the cause of tension.
Is that the case?
989
00:54:49,580 --> 00:54:51,020
Yeah, but I mean...
990
00:54:51,020 --> 00:54:55,020
I mean, you don't do a gig like this
without having fights occasionally.
991
00:54:55,020 --> 00:54:57,780
This one just happened to pop out
into public, you know?
992
00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:04,140
It's another moment of destiny
for Ronnie.
993
00:55:06,740 --> 00:55:09,020
You know, I've got to keep
this institution going,
994
00:55:09,020 --> 00:55:11,500
so, you know, I've got to act now.
995
00:55:11,500 --> 00:55:13,460
So I rang up Mick and I'd said,
996
00:55:13,460 --> 00:55:16,780
"If I got Keith in 15 minutes,
would you talk to him?"
997
00:55:16,780 --> 00:55:20,340
And he said, "Yeah, I would."
You know?
998
00:55:20,340 --> 00:55:23,900
So I prepared the ground
and I said OK.
999
00:55:23,900 --> 00:55:25,660
Before I know it, I'm calling Mick,
1000
00:55:25,660 --> 00:55:28,740
saying surely we've got to do
something, man, you know?
1001
00:55:28,740 --> 00:55:31,620
And suddenly it all falls back
into place again.
1002
00:55:31,620 --> 00:55:35,340
And it's almost as if you're...
1003
00:55:35,340 --> 00:55:38,860
I hate this with saying all about...
1004
00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:41,820
..authority and everything,
1005
00:55:41,820 --> 00:55:44,700
but it's as if
some higher authority...
1006
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:47,860
"Uh-uh, Keith. Go on."
1007
00:55:47,860 --> 00:55:51,820
That was a higher power moving
there, you know?
1008
00:55:51,820 --> 00:55:53,820
Ladies and gentlemen,
1009
00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:56,620
will you please welcome
The Rolling Stones!
1010
00:55:56,620 --> 00:55:58,900
CHEERING
1011
00:56:02,300 --> 00:56:06,020
After a deep, cold winter,
spring will come.
1012
00:56:09,340 --> 00:56:12,220
I think they love him for that,
you know?
1013
00:56:12,220 --> 00:56:14,500
They probably hated him
at times, too,
1014
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:16,900
because they want to be mad
at each other.
1015
00:56:16,900 --> 00:56:20,020
And then Ronnie comes in and makes
them laugh about something
1016
00:56:20,020 --> 00:56:22,020
and it's like, "Get out of here,
Ronnie!"
1017
00:56:22,020 --> 00:56:24,780
# Childhood living... #
1018
00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:28,020
I've got to keep this thing going -
in motion, you know?
1019
00:56:28,020 --> 00:56:29,500
Whatever it takes.
1020
00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:31,740
# ..is easy to do... #
1021
00:56:31,740 --> 00:56:36,260
Over 60 years, Ronnie Wood has never
let that spark die.
1022
00:56:36,260 --> 00:56:39,740
From first sight of The Stones
as a teenager
1023
00:56:39,740 --> 00:56:42,380
to still touring with them
into his 70s.
1024
00:56:46,860 --> 00:56:49,740
Did Ronnie save The Stones?
1025
00:56:49,740 --> 00:56:52,220
Course he did.
1026
00:56:49,740 --> 00:56:52,220
KENNEY LAUGHS
1027
00:56:52,220 --> 00:56:55,220
No matter what's going on,
he'll say, "You know,
1028
00:56:55,220 --> 00:56:58,780
"we'll be all right. We'll get
through that. It'll be fine."
1029
00:56:58,780 --> 00:57:00,980
And I really would go so far
as to say
1030
00:57:00,980 --> 00:57:04,260
no Ronnie, no Rolling Stones.
Not now.
1031
00:57:04,260 --> 00:57:05,660
He's amazing.
1032
00:57:05,660 --> 00:57:07,260
He is the glue that binds them.
1033
00:57:08,660 --> 00:57:10,460
# Yeah
1034
00:57:10,460 --> 00:57:14,060
# Cos the wild horses
1035
00:57:16,020 --> 00:57:19,500
# Couldn't drag me away
1036
00:57:22,020 --> 00:57:25,060
# Cos the wild horses
1037
00:57:27,540 --> 00:57:30,820
# Couldn't drag me away... #
1038
00:57:30,820 --> 00:57:32,500
Ronnie's the MSG.
1039
00:57:32,500 --> 00:57:35,380
He's the sticky stuff that's
keeping it all together.
1040
00:57:35,380 --> 00:57:37,060
# I watched you suffer
1041
00:57:39,220 --> 00:57:42,340
# A dull, aching pain... #
1042
00:57:42,340 --> 00:57:45,020
There was a tough glue
with two horses
1043
00:57:45,020 --> 00:57:47,700
trying to pull it apart.
That's what it reminds me of.
1044
00:57:49,340 --> 00:57:52,940
There's a bond, anyway. There's
a bond that can't be broken.
1045
00:57:52,940 --> 00:57:55,540
Araldite? Araldite!
1046
00:57:55,540 --> 00:57:58,060
LAUGHTER
1047
00:57:59,540 --> 00:58:02,700
# Cos the wild, wild horses
1048
00:58:05,020 --> 00:58:08,020
# We'll ride them some day
1049
00:58:11,220 --> 00:58:14,020
# Wild horses
1050
00:58:16,180 --> 00:58:19,300
# Couldn't drag me away
1051
00:58:22,620 --> 00:58:26,060
# Wild, wild horses
1052
00:58:27,740 --> 00:58:31,060
# We'll ride them someday
1053
00:58:31,060 --> 00:58:33,180
# Yeah! #
1054
00:58:33,180 --> 00:58:36,500
CHEERING
1055
00:58:40,420 --> 00:58:42,060
Thank you!
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