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OK, this is Keith, take one.
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MUSIC: Can't You Hear Me Knocking
by The Rolling Stones
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Every guy I've ever met in my life
wants to be Keith Richards.
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He is the epitome of a rock
guitarist.
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The original, the one and only.
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It's Keith Richards.
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Keith Richards has led a life
wreathed in legend.
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His attitude and legacy underpin
the whole idea of the Guitar Hero.
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What troubled mind would around
wondering
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what other people's perceptions are?
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I have enough dealing with my own.
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I can only imagine what delusions
other people labour under.
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More than just a musician,
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he's a defiant hedonist and a poster
boy for sheer survival.
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Rock and roll has to have an element
of danger
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and an element of unpredictability.
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And when you look at Keith Richards,
he embodies every element
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that you want in your rock and roll
star.
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Keith is all about living your life
with no-one telling you how to be.
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It's following who you are
fearlessly.
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It's really the skin of the teeth.
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First off, that it happens to you,
then you've got to survive it,
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because you don't know what you're
in for when you start this thing.
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I still don't. So many surprises.
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I could kid myself that I was
obviously born to play rock and roll
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and be an enormous star.
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No, I dreamt of that,
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that doesn't, that's not the same
thing as knowing, is it?
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Do we call that destiny?
What do we call it?
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I call it love.
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There isn't another guitar
player like Keith Richards.
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There's nobody who comes
anywhere close to him.
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It was that sound of
the guitar
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and the sound of that
guitar
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was the creation, I would say,
of the Rolling Stones.
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He is definitely the
archetypal
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bad boy rock
guitarist personified,
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and he's the model
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that all of us rebellious rock
guitar players followed from.
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Keith Richards wrote the
dictionary version
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of what rock and
roll was.
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A songwriter, a guitar
slinger, a travelling troubadour.
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He's such an encyclopaedia.
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You need any advice?
Just go to Keith,
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no matter what state he's in,
he'll...
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Boom, go straight to the heart of
something.
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"Oh, OK, that's the answer.
Keith has the answer."
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Keith is somethin' else.
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He's emotionally
very present.
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As present as you
can be
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when you're really in the
business of fantasy.
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Say you were a rock and
roll fan as a teenager,
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you had five kids and you
had to go to work
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at the assembly line for the Ford
Motor Company.
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Well, if you go to a Stones show
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and Keith is standing there looking
badass,
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you're visiting the part of you
that you feel is missing.
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After 60 years, the Stones are
still Rolling,
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playing sell-out shows in all
four corners of the globe.
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But at the musical heart of every
gig is one key character.
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I think everyone creates a character
for themselves to a certain extent.
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I don't know whether Keith's created
a character of himself
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which is real or not real.
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Keith's got a reputation as a
hell-raiser,
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so I think he was very worried,
at one point,
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if he was no longer going to be a
hell-raiser,
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he's not that character any more,
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who are you, then?
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I don't think he cares about
that any more.
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I don't blame him.
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Are you comfortable doing
interviews like this?
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I mean, you've been doing
them for a long time.
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Is it something you relish?
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It depends on the interviewer,
old boy.
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I don't mind. You know, it's...
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I mean, I must say, now and
again, it's a grind,
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you know, answering the same
questions.
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At the same time, that's
a challenge, because you think,
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"Can I come up with another answer
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"that means the same thing
in different words?" You know?
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So you slip and slide, you know.
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WAITS: If you have a persona, it is
like a ventriloquist act.
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It's sitting on your lap,
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but it's not you.
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I guess you could call it convenient
at times,
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but there are also other
times when it's very inconvenient.
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We are all hand in glove
in this dastardly scheme
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to sell our products. Um...
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But I consider it as part of the
gig.
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So, uh...there we go.
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Story so far.
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Why are you coming to see the show?
Who are you going to see?
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Keith Richards.
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I like his hair.
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Just his hair? I just like him.
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Life in the spotlight hasn't
always been easy for Keith.
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JAGGER: He's terribly shy.
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I mean, as I knew him
when he was a child
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and growing up to be a teenager,
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I know what he's really, really
like.
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No-one else knows him from that
period except for me, I think.
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You can see from the interviews.
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He's introverted, naturally.
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It's...
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..hard to define shyness.
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I don't know, when it comes
to shyness,
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I don't really know where to...to
put it.
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I mean, I sometimes I think I use
it as a weapon
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and say, "Oh, he's shy," you know?
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And I guess, in a way, you get shy
of things,
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crowds and stuff because,
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I mean, I can't go to a movie,
to a cinema any more.
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Sometimes, when I have...
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..I've never felt, like, more sort
of embarrassed in my life,
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somebody going, "It's Keith
Richards! It's Keith Richards!"
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I've ruined the whole movie
for everybody, right?
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I mean... And then I go,
"Excuse me," tripping over people.
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"I'll leave now."
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And, you know, I get shy in
that situation, you know?
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And that just comes
with fame and all of that crap,
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which loads, throws another load
of stuff at you.
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JAGGER: If you're an extrovert in
show business,
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I think you're in a good place.
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If you're an introvert in show
business,
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it will cause you, probably,
some anguish
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or discomfort, perhaps, or anxiety.
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Most people that are
in bands, guitar players,
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maybe they're a little
introverted,
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they're a bit awkward,
they can't talk to girls.
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Even Jimi Hendrix would just be
at the back of the class, mumbling,
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but give him a guitar
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and the world lights up.
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TURNER: Keith didn't care,
in the beginning,
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about clothes or about his
image.
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He was just concerned
with the sound.
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This was his way of performing.
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He was back there making the sound.
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Keith is born in 1943,
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18 miles east of London in Dartford,
Kent.
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I understand that you two,
of all the five fellows,
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you two have been
friends longest, is that right?
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You've known each other,
went to school together? Yes.
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Little lads. When we were little
boys.
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Little bitty boys. And you
were raised around London, right?
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Yes.
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Is it in London itself, or...
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No, just outside, about 20
miles. In the suburbs.
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The suburbs of London.
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What's, what's the, uh, suburb
called?
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Dartford. Dartford?
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You're right on the edge
of the country,
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so you've got, you know,
commuters, heavy industry
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and you've got countryside.
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Very beautiful, still very
beautiful.
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The Dickensian sort of marshes
that go to the Thames Estuary,
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described in Great Expectations
so fully.
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Dartford? Is that on the planet
Krypton? You know? Um...
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You were growing up in the residue
of a huge world war,
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but you didn't know anything
about it.
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It was just the way things were.
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Bombsite here, you know?
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"No, you can't have that.
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"We don't have any ration tickets
left."
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I mean, it wasn't unusual.
You didn't feel hard done by it.
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It was just the way it was.
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The exam called the 11 Plus looms
large,
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sorting British kids into the
different educational paths
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which will determine their future.
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I remember the 11 Plus.
I didn't take it.
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I went down with some kind of flu
at the time, or whatever it was.
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And so I didn't actually get to take
it, which, I was immense...
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I think I had a psychosomatic
disease, as I just...
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Exams are the thing that'll
kill me, you know?
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I mean, it's... Jesus.
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You either became a professional,
basically, of whatever, you know...
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Or, you know, you dug the ditches
and you do, you know,
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what working men do.
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And, of course, being kids
at that age, you don't realise
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that you're being streamed...
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..to one aspect of society
and, you know,
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you're being dumped,
or you're being elevated.
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You have no idea, right?
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Anyway, I took the middle
route and got expelled.
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Which I...
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..I recommend heartily to any
red-blooded English schoolboy.
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As far as I was concerned at the
time,
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they'd heaped humiliation on me
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and I weren't going to take
it any more, you know?
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You break it with one form
of authority
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and maybe after that, you start to
question...
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..other forms of authority, you
know?
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There was always something
about being told what to do,
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especially without any reason.
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If Rebel Keith is born of a healthy
disregard for authority,
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it's his grandfather, Gus Dupree,
an amateur jazz musician,
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who fosters an early
enthusiasm for music.
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ARCHIVE: He was the father of seven
daughters.
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Well, as far as I'm concerned,
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I seem to have been the only
boy he didn't have.
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So, in fact, for me, he was
more like a dad or a friend
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than a grandfather.
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He'd take me into music shops,
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but we'd always go in round the
back.
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We never went in the front door.
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And there was always a little deal
about, you know, some guitar strings
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or some violin strings.
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But then I would be in the back
of these music stores
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for like hours,
watching people make guitars,
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violins, repairing things.
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It was like magical stuff going on.
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He always had his violin
and instruments ready.
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He never, ever once pushed me
or tried to interest me.
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He would just play music,
you know?
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All kinds, you know, jazz,
classical.
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And then we'd just live our life
around the music.
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Until one day, he noticed
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that I was looking at the
guitar on top of the piano.
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And, uh... "Since you keep
looking at that,"
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he said, "you want to have a go?"
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And that's how... Boom, gave it to
me.
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He said, "I'll show you a few chords
here and you're on your own."
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And that was it.
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Can we just talk
about your first guitar?
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I think we've got it here.
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I'd love to see you handle it.
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So would I! That's all you need to
do. OK.
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What the...
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Careful here. Oh, that's it.
Oh, man.
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Yeah. The mice were at it then,
the mice have been at it now.
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This...
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..I believe it is the one
that my grandfather gave me.
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But I'm not sure about that.
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I don't know, but...
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Definitely my grandfather.
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Wow, you see?
Lovely piece of wood.
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MUSIC: Maybelline
by Chuck Berry
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# Oh, Maybelline
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# Why can't you be true?
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# Oh, Maybelline... #
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As Keith starts out on his musical
journey,
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his attention is grabbed by an
irresistible new sound.
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Rock and roll.
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# I was motivating over the hill
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# I saw Maybelline in a Coupe de
Ville
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# Cadillac rollin' on over the road
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# Nothin' outrunning my V8 Ford... #
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I was getting an urge for some
country music and some blues.
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I was starting to get interested.
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Very little that you could get
in England at the time.
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I think when rock and roll came
along,
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it sort of fused the whole thing
together for me, you know?
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Ha! You know, "Where have you been?"
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At that age, it was devastating.
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# Done got cloudy and started to
rain
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# Tooted my horn for the passing
lane
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# Rainwater blowing all under my
hood... #
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That's it. That's where you want
to go. That's...
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"Book me a room!"
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It was an exciting time
to be a musician at that age.
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Yeah, it was great. Ha-ha!
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It was so completely
different
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from anything we'd ever
heard.
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And it had an excitement and
a positivity about it, I suppose.
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Rock and roll started
whenever it was, '58.
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It was Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly
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and all that lot that turned our
heads.
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That introduced us more into folk,
I suppose, and then into blues
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and the blues artists of the day.
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It was like collecting rare stamps,
finding good blues records.
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JAGGER: The hits were released by
major record companies.
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So, if it was a hit R&B track,
or if it made the Hot 100,
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these were easy to get.
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Major labels released these
records.
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To buy the whole album of Muddy
Waters was much more difficult,
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and you had to go to a jazz shop
in Charing Cross Road
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and pay a lot of money for it.
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And we used to order them
from America a bit cheaper
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and there was a sort of little
network of people
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that had record collections.
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And so you would go to their houses
and they would play you music
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and you would hear songs perhaps
you'd never heard before.
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ARCHIVE: I was going to Sidcup Art
School. Right.
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And Mick, at that time, was going
to the London School of Economics.
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But I just get off at Sidcup, you
know?
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Meanwhile, I'm sitting in the
carriage and suddenly he walks in.
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"There's Mick," who I hadn't seen
in years, you know. "Wow, man.
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"What's that under your arm?"
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HE CHUCKLES
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And he pulls out the
Best Of Muddy Waters
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and Rockin' At The Hops by
Chuck Berry.
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And these are American pressings,
you know, and you can't get
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these records in England at the
time.
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Basically, that was the hook-up for
the Stones and for Mick and I,
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was just that we had this
same interest in music.
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BLUES HARMONICA PLAYING
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To know that these guys
were dedicated enough
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to send their money
off into the oblivion,
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in the hopes that something
would come back,
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and then they were, like, obsessed
and live off of that record.
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I just think it's just phenomenal.
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What was it about a
cricket-playing, football-playing
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bunch of characters, who drank
tea at four o'clock,
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who loved this music?
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Music from other cultures
has a romantic flair
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and is kind of exotic.
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So for the Rolling Stones,
being teenagers in England,
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getting their hands on
authentic American Blues records,
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authentic American folk records,
country records.
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It carried with it this whole
romantic gravitas.
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JAGGER: The thing about the blues
is it felt like it was coming
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from some other place.
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And it's much more raucous,
it's much more heartfelt,
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it's much more vivacious.
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It's not being filtered
through all these things.
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That's what kind of made us jealous
in England,
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was like, "Man, these cats
have got, you know,
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"they've got a long stretch on us."
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And, you know, we had a lot
of catching up to do.
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It was just a fascinating journey.
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And these presumptuous 18-year-old
white kids,
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who say, "We're going to be the best
blues band in London."
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Robert Plant said it to
me best.
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He said, "You know, Brian,
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"these white boys got a hold
of American black music
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"and gave it fist."
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The Rolling Stones!
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WILD CHEERING
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# Said the joint was rocking
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# Going round and round
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# Yeah, reelin' and a-rockin'
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# What a crazy sound
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# But they never stopped
rockin'... #
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I saw that whole
thing go down, man,
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with the white blues.
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The English were ahead of it.
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They spread it.
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There was something
really different about it.
338
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There was like this
undulating rhythm happening
339
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and it was sexually charged.
340
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# Goin' round and round
341
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# Yeah, reelin' and a rockin'
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# What a crazy sound
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# And they never stopped rockin'
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# Till the moon went down. #
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18, you know, playing your blues.
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And within a matter of months, women
are trying to tear your clothes off
347
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and they're jumping off of
balconies.
348
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LAUGHING: This is not quite what I
had in mind.
349
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It was mayhem.
350
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They were really good.
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My God, as a band,
they were really good.
352
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They had this charisma.
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They were so cool and really didn't
give a fuck.
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That was their attitude on stage.
355
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# What a crazy sound
356
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# And they never stopped rockin'
357
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# Till the moon went down
358
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# I said the joint was rockin'
359
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# Goin' round and round
360
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# Yeah, reelin' and a rockin'
361
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# What a crazy sound
362
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# And they never stopped rockin'
363
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# Till the moon went down... #
364
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The Stones
represented a danger,
365
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a teenage danger that we
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hadn't really experienced before.
367
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They were definitely different
than, say, the Beatles.
368
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The Beatles were there
to entertain you.
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These guys came for your daughters.
HE LAUGHS
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The Rolling Stones connect
with a post-war generation
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eager for new music.
372
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But the key to their success
373
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is a reverence for a blues
sound steeped in history.
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We did it through researching,
375
00:21:47,820 --> 00:21:51,060
getting really soaked up in the
blues, you know.
376
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We wanted to find out...
377
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..where the funkiest, swampiest
damn stuff came from, you know.
378
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MUSIC: Hobo Blues
by John Lee Hooker
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Keith Richards' choice of listening
music
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is a great musicology course for
anybody.
381
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He had a sort of evangelical drive
to expose people to the blues.
382
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# When I first thought to hoboin'
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# Hoboin'
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# I took a freight train to be my
friend... #
385
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We would have a lot of
386
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listening sessions in
Keith's room
387
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with just all this great
black music.
388
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And I think the Rolling Stones
actually tapping into that.
389
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# You know I hobo'd, hobo'd,
hobo'd... #
390
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And expressing it in their way
391
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is the evolution of the music,
as it should be.
392
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# Oh, yeah. #
393
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I think the whole wave
of music
394
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that came out of England
in the mid 1960s
395
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was a reflection of the best of
what we had cooked up over here
396
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over the last 50 years.
397
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They embraced it in the most
beautiful way.
398
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They honoured that music.
399
00:23:16,620 --> 00:23:19,460
# I left home that morning
400
00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:25,140
# My mother followed me down
to that... #
401
00:23:25,140 --> 00:23:28,740
Being in America, to find out
that what we'd heard in England
402
00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:31,220
was only the tip of an iceberg
403
00:23:31,220 --> 00:23:34,540
and that you could burrow
far deeper,
404
00:23:34,540 --> 00:23:37,500
and that for every guy that you knew
about,
405
00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:40,740
there were ten others,
easily as good.
406
00:23:42,500 --> 00:23:47,060
Music and the beat and the sounds
came from the motherland.
407
00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:52,780
The black experience that is
soulful, that has a cry,
408
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that has a deep understanding,
that touches hearts,
409
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that communicates deeply.
410
00:24:03,140 --> 00:24:07,260
The Rolling Stones took
it and ran and made it their own.
411
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:11,740
# Next time I start to hoboin'
412
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# I'm going to have my baby
by my side
413
00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:20,140
# And then I know my night
414
00:24:20,140 --> 00:24:21,980
# It won't be so lonely... #
415
00:24:21,980 --> 00:24:24,940
We were just a bunch of guys
that loved our music,
416
00:24:24,940 --> 00:24:26,660
were obsessed with our music,
417
00:24:26,660 --> 00:24:30,580
but in our English fantasy
of America in the '50s,
418
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it just sort of pulled you and
called you.
419
00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:41,020
It was the place to be if you wanted
to be a musician.
420
00:24:42,380 --> 00:24:45,620
TV: Now, oh, something for the
youngsters.
421
00:24:45,620 --> 00:24:49,380
Five singing boys from England
who've sold a lot of albums.
422
00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:51,660
They're called The Rolling Stones.
423
00:24:51,660 --> 00:24:53,860
I've been rolled while I was
stoned myself.
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LAUGHTER
425
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So I don't know what they're singing
about, but, uh...
426
00:24:58,980 --> 00:25:00,220
..here they are.
427
00:24:58,980 --> 00:25:00,220
APPLAUSE
428
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# I don't want you to
429
00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:10,220
# Be no slave
430
00:25:10,220 --> 00:25:12,220
# I don't want you to
431
00:25:12,220 --> 00:25:14,180
# Work all day
432
00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:16,180
# I don't want you
433
00:25:16,180 --> 00:25:17,700
# To be true
434
00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:22,020
# I just wanna make love to you
435
00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:23,860
# Love to you, baby
436
00:25:23,860 --> 00:25:26,060
# Sweet love to you, baby
437
00:25:26,060 --> 00:25:27,340
# Love to you
438
00:25:27,340 --> 00:25:31,180
# I can tell by the way that you
twist and walk
439
00:25:31,180 --> 00:25:35,260
# I can see by the way that you baby
talk... #
440
00:25:35,260 --> 00:25:38,820
The Rolling Stones sang our music
back to us.
441
00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:40,780
But they were singing with us.
442
00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:43,540
You know, I never felt
that they were singing to us.
443
00:25:43,540 --> 00:25:46,660
I felt like they wanted
to be one of us.
444
00:25:46,660 --> 00:25:47,740
I welcomed them.
445
00:25:47,740 --> 00:25:49,660
I think we all welcomed them.
446
00:25:51,660 --> 00:25:55,220
# I don't want you to be true
447
00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:59,460
# I just wanna make love to you,
baby
448
00:25:59,460 --> 00:26:01,420
# Love to you, baby
449
00:26:01,420 --> 00:26:03,500
# Sweet love to you, baby
450
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:05,460
# Love to you, baby
451
00:26:05,460 --> 00:26:07,140
# Love to you
452
00:26:07,140 --> 00:26:08,940
# I
453
00:26:08,940 --> 00:26:11,020
# Wanna make love
454
00:26:11,020 --> 00:26:12,500
# To you. #
455
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I was really excited
456
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that somebody felt and
loved this music
457
00:26:28,820 --> 00:26:34,020
as much as I did and would
dedicate their lives to playing it
458
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and exposing people to it.
459
00:26:38,380 --> 00:26:41,860
Some people thought they might
have been appropriating,
460
00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:43,580
or this, that and the other thing.
461
00:26:43,580 --> 00:26:45,460
Well, um, 'scuse me,
462
00:26:45,460 --> 00:26:47,100
it's right here in your backyard,
463
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,300
and I don't see you doing anything
about it.
464
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ARCHIVE: Cos it's been said that
the Rolling Stones
465
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gave black music back to the
Americans.
466
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How do you feel these black
musicians feel about The Stones?
467
00:27:01,180 --> 00:27:04,420
I mean, I know people like
Muddy Waters, etc...
468
00:27:04,420 --> 00:27:07,060
..are really grateful, you know,
for...
469
00:27:07,060 --> 00:27:09,500
I mean, really, I mean, we did
very little.
470
00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:12,540
I mean, all we said was that
we dug Muddy Waters, you know?
471
00:27:12,540 --> 00:27:17,100
I mean, which happened to have a lot
of an effect for him, you know?
472
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:19,100
In his own life. It means more bread
for him,
473
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:21,380
because he got on to the white
college circuit
474
00:27:21,380 --> 00:27:23,620
and things, which wouldn't
have happened, things like that.
475
00:27:23,620 --> 00:27:25,540
But we weren't the only ones
to do it.
476
00:27:25,540 --> 00:27:28,220
I mean, every English band
in the '60s that went to America,
477
00:27:28,220 --> 00:27:29,660
you know, was...
478
00:27:29,660 --> 00:27:30,980
Came there and said,
479
00:27:30,980 --> 00:27:32,300
"Well, you know, we've got our
480
00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:33,780
"music from black records."
481
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:40,500
This is way beyond our dreams
482
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:43,540
of being the biggest R&B
band in London.
483
00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:47,100
Muddy Waters has suddenly
got a hit record again.
484
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,940
John Lee Hooker is on the charts,
485
00:27:48,940 --> 00:27:51,500
Slim Harpo and all of these people
486
00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:55,580
that were totally unknown two years
before.
487
00:27:55,580 --> 00:27:57,580
And we felt very proud of the...
488
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I mean, Jesus, what a mantle
we carry.
489
00:28:00,020 --> 00:28:01,940
I still get a nice warm glow
490
00:28:01,940 --> 00:28:05,580
out of turning everybody back
on to their own stuff.
491
00:28:05,580 --> 00:28:08,780
To find yourself on the bill
with Muddy Waters...
492
00:28:10,220 --> 00:28:12,420
Whoa. Victory is ours.
493
00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:13,900
You know, it's cool.
494
00:28:16,940 --> 00:28:20,420
A reworking of music that was
already American
495
00:28:20,420 --> 00:28:24,380
helps the Stones storm the States
and the world.
496
00:28:25,460 --> 00:28:27,380
In just a matter of months,
497
00:28:27,380 --> 00:28:32,820
their sound and image are number one
on both sides of the Atlantic.
498
00:28:39,620 --> 00:28:42,340
We felt it was a gift coming
to America.
499
00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:47,500
I mean, suddenly to be transplanted
from, er...
500
00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:49,140
..some wannabe...
501
00:28:50,860 --> 00:28:54,020
It was endlessly fascinating,
America.
502
00:28:55,180 --> 00:28:56,380
After Dartford.
503
00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:02,660
We grew into it.
And music grew into us and...
504
00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:07,580
..America changed rapidly in '64,
'65.
505
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:13,380
White America, when we first
came here,
506
00:29:13,380 --> 00:29:16,460
was incredibly old-fashioned to us.
507
00:29:16,460 --> 00:29:18,860
Our idea of America was modernity.
508
00:29:18,860 --> 00:29:22,660
And once you got out there
in the sticks. Whoa!
509
00:29:22,660 --> 00:29:25,940
You realise the incredible gap
there.
510
00:29:30,820 --> 00:29:32,140
America was the Holy Grail.
511
00:29:32,140 --> 00:29:33,540
It really, really was.
512
00:29:33,540 --> 00:29:35,900
And it was to do with
not just
513
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:38,380
wanting to be big in America.
514
00:29:38,380 --> 00:29:41,140
It was more that their fame
and notoriety
515
00:29:41,140 --> 00:29:42,580
had given them an opportunity.
516
00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:46,340
It was like a laminate,
a pass into American culture.
517
00:29:46,340 --> 00:29:48,380
And I think that was the thing
with Keith.
518
00:29:48,380 --> 00:29:51,940
He saw the Stones as this amazing
laminate
519
00:29:51,940 --> 00:29:57,020
into the fabric of what made
American music what it was.
520
00:30:00,020 --> 00:30:01,500
I think it's the call,
521
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:05,460
but the Americans were still playing
folk songs and folk music.
522
00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:06,940
Basically through country music,
523
00:30:06,940 --> 00:30:09,780
which always sounds like schmaltz to
a lot of people, I know,
524
00:30:09,780 --> 00:30:12,740
but there's a lot of truth in
country music.
525
00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:16,340
MUSIC: Wild Horses
by The Rolling Stones
526
00:30:17,780 --> 00:30:19,460
I actually think that
The Rolling Stones
527
00:30:19,460 --> 00:30:21,340
are some of the
first proponents
528
00:30:21,340 --> 00:30:23,500
of what's now
called Americana music.
529
00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:27,940
It's ironic, but you listen
to something like Wild Horses.
530
00:30:27,940 --> 00:30:33,140
That's a pretty eclectic blend
of authentic American music styles
531
00:30:33,140 --> 00:30:35,340
that no-one had really touched
on before.
532
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:38,180
They've written some of
533
00:30:38,180 --> 00:30:39,860
the quintessential
country songs,
534
00:30:39,860 --> 00:30:41,300
as far as I'm concerned.
535
00:30:43,060 --> 00:30:46,620
# Childhood living... #
536
00:30:50,340 --> 00:30:53,340
They're so much more than an R&B
band,
537
00:30:53,340 --> 00:30:58,820
and they're also extremely
brilliant pop song craftsmen.
538
00:30:59,940 --> 00:31:03,940
I think they took Jimmy Reed and
Muddy Waters
539
00:31:03,940 --> 00:31:06,980
and George Jones
and Merle Haggard
540
00:31:06,980 --> 00:31:11,180
and brought it back to us with pop
hooks.
541
00:31:12,140 --> 00:31:14,740
I don't know that there is a band
that can write better hooks
542
00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:15,980
than The Rolling Stones.
543
00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:19,700
I love that the Stones
can do that,
544
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:24,620
that they can take stuff
from their influencers
545
00:31:24,620 --> 00:31:26,260
and do it their way.
546
00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:31,420
They translate it and do it their
way.
547
00:31:31,420 --> 00:31:34,820
That's another wonderful thing
they've taught me,
548
00:31:34,820 --> 00:31:37,420
is how to put a song together.
549
00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:44,740
# Wild horses
550
00:31:46,980 --> 00:31:51,300
# Couldn't drag me away
551
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:58,700
# Wild, wild horses
552
00:31:59,820 --> 00:32:04,180
# Couldn't drag me away... #
553
00:32:04,180 --> 00:32:06,220
One of the things people don't talk
about,
554
00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:07,780
or I don't hear
talked about,
555
00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:10,220
is what a great songwriter
Keith Richards is.
556
00:32:10,220 --> 00:32:15,020
And I think it's because
he's so known as a guitarist
557
00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:19,060
and also because he's so known
to be dissolute, or whatever,
558
00:32:19,060 --> 00:32:22,740
that beautiful thing is that he is,
you know, that people,
559
00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:26,860
I don't think, have really
recognised the extraordinary
560
00:32:26,860 --> 00:32:30,340
contribution that he's made
through his songwriting.
561
00:32:34,660 --> 00:32:37,180
I really remember a
particular,
562
00:32:37,180 --> 00:32:39,460
period as a really
little guy
563
00:32:39,460 --> 00:32:43,780
from Beggar's Banquet, Let It
Bleed, Sticky Fingers,
564
00:32:43,780 --> 00:32:45,540
Exile on Main Street.
565
00:32:45,540 --> 00:32:49,460
That was the period when the Stones
was the background music of my life.
566
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:55,180
It just kind of adds another
thread between this tapestry
567
00:32:55,180 --> 00:33:02,060
of this marvellous backlog of
material that the Stones have.
568
00:33:02,060 --> 00:33:03,540
It's like...
569
00:33:03,540 --> 00:33:07,780
..whoa! You know,
what a legacy and...
570
00:33:07,780 --> 00:33:11,260
..lucky dip. Take a song, you know?
571
00:33:11,260 --> 00:33:12,460
Pick it out.
572
00:33:19,420 --> 00:33:23,700
It soon becomes clear, writing,
as well as performing smash hits,
573
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:25,180
is the name of the game
574
00:33:25,180 --> 00:33:28,460
if they want to be a new kind
of musical superstar.
575
00:33:30,020 --> 00:33:32,100
We were working the clubs in London
576
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:34,620
and the Beatles just came out
and had a hit -
577
00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:36,380
Love Me Do.
578
00:33:36,380 --> 00:33:38,660
And we said, "Oh,
man, what a great record."
579
00:33:38,660 --> 00:33:40,700
The Beatles suddenly explode.
580
00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:43,260
And there's, there you are going...
581
00:33:43,260 --> 00:33:45,900
"Oh. Yeah, but we're a blues band."
582
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:47,980
The Beatles changed this whole
thing.
583
00:33:47,980 --> 00:33:54,020
Our job was to be like the premier
rhythm and blues band in London,
584
00:33:54,020 --> 00:33:55,300
and we managed that.
585
00:33:56,580 --> 00:34:02,700
But we had no idea of
progressing beyond that stage.
586
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:05,900
Keith, he'd play The Beatles
all the time.
587
00:34:05,900 --> 00:34:07,900
It'd drive me absolutely batty.
588
00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:10,380
And why he was playing The Beatles
589
00:34:10,380 --> 00:34:12,540
wasn't because he didn't want
to listen to anything else.
590
00:34:12,540 --> 00:34:14,740
Keith wanted to write these pop
songs,
591
00:34:14,740 --> 00:34:16,780
cos we're undeniably
the blues band,
592
00:34:16,780 --> 00:34:18,660
but we...
593
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:22,580
..knew we had to be a pop band.
594
00:34:22,580 --> 00:34:25,420
We were just envious, too,
man, you know?
595
00:34:25,420 --> 00:34:28,540
I mean, they're doing what we want,
you know, they got it.
596
00:34:28,540 --> 00:34:30,620
You know? They can make records.
597
00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:35,660
The Holy Grail was to make records,
to be able to get into a studio.
598
00:34:35,660 --> 00:34:36,900
It was like diamonds!
599
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:39,100
You know, you'd think it was a gold
mine,
600
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:41,300
which in a way it was, you know
what I mean?
601
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:45,140
But you'd think you were invading
Fort Knox,
602
00:34:45,140 --> 00:34:46,380
just to make a record.
603
00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:49,660
Without The Beatles, The Stones
would never have been there.
604
00:34:49,660 --> 00:34:51,620
The reason The Stones existed,
605
00:34:51,620 --> 00:34:56,460
or got, made records,
was because the record industry
606
00:34:56,460 --> 00:35:00,980
couldn't afford to lose another
Beatles.
607
00:35:03,940 --> 00:35:06,540
We'd never have got in a recording
studio without them.
608
00:35:07,620 --> 00:35:09,340
We would've sold,
and I probably did,
609
00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:12,660
sell my soul just to be on
tape, just to get on record,
610
00:35:12,660 --> 00:35:15,340
just to learn how records are made.
611
00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:22,420
Recording is, still is, to me,
the most mysterious art.
612
00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:29,860
I think he could live in a studio.
613
00:35:32,340 --> 00:35:33,620
He just loves music.
614
00:35:34,860 --> 00:35:37,100
Music is always part of his life.
Music is always on.
615
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:38,740
Music is always the backdrop
of his life.
616
00:35:38,740 --> 00:35:41,940
And the guitar is always there,
the piano is always there.
617
00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:45,100
Always has it right handy
whenever he wants it.
618
00:35:46,340 --> 00:35:48,420
But he loves the process.
619
00:35:48,420 --> 00:35:50,260
I think he loves the process
more than anything.
620
00:35:50,260 --> 00:35:53,580
He loves developing a song.
He likes to write in a studio.
621
00:35:56,740 --> 00:35:59,140
It's a kid's dream come true.
622
00:35:59,140 --> 00:36:05,220
I mean, you're constantly living
those moments of, like,
623
00:36:05,220 --> 00:36:09,260
"I've got a guitar strapped up, in a
studio to...
624
00:36:09,260 --> 00:36:11,860
"and we're cutting."
You know, and...
625
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,380
..it's a surreal sensation in a
way.
626
00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:19,220
Keith would come to the studio
627
00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:20,660
and he'd have maybe
half an idea,
628
00:36:20,660 --> 00:36:22,420
and he'd sit and play
it and play it
629
00:36:22,420 --> 00:36:24,140
and play it and play
it on his own.
630
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:26,260
And then, when he got it almost
into shape,
631
00:36:26,260 --> 00:36:28,980
Bill and Charlie would sit with him
and they'd play along with him
632
00:36:28,980 --> 00:36:31,620
to help him develop the riff
into a song.
633
00:36:33,180 --> 00:36:39,300
The Stones have a
great craft of songwriting,
634
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:42,900
and that is how to present it.
635
00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:47,940
How to record it so that it knocks
your socks off and you go, "Whoa!"
636
00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:51,540
What they've done is epic.
637
00:36:51,540 --> 00:36:56,620
The way they were able to weave
these disparate elements together.
638
00:36:56,620 --> 00:36:58,100
It's a magic trick.
639
00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:00,620
What you do is the job
of a minstrel.
640
00:37:00,620 --> 00:37:04,780
You know, songs evolve,
music evolves.
641
00:37:04,780 --> 00:37:07,300
Keith was not the purist
of the band.
642
00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:08,660
A blues purist.
643
00:37:09,620 --> 00:37:11,660
Keith liked to write pop songs.
644
00:37:11,660 --> 00:37:13,620
He wrote lots and lots of pop songs.
645
00:37:13,620 --> 00:37:17,460
Ruby Tuesday, As Tears Go By.
646
00:37:17,460 --> 00:37:19,900
He also wrote Angie.
647
00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:22,540
I mean, these are not blues
songs as we know them.
648
00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:26,940
These are pop songs that emanate,
really, from Keith, originally.
649
00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:31,620
Keith's talent drives the band's
success,
650
00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:33,300
but he's a reluctant star...
651
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:34,700
Just to tell you...
652
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:39,300
..struggling to handle the adoration
and fame that engulfs the band.
653
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:42,460
I'd have been quite happy
654
00:37:42,460 --> 00:37:44,860
to make all these records
totally anonymously.
655
00:37:44,860 --> 00:37:46,900
HE LAUGHS
656
00:37:44,860 --> 00:37:46,900
But then, of course,
657
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:48,860
I mean, that's not possible.
658
00:37:48,860 --> 00:37:51,780
I mean, hey, you've got to get out
there and put yourself out.
659
00:37:51,780 --> 00:37:54,500
And I learnt how to do that and I
quite enjoyed it.
660
00:37:55,860 --> 00:37:59,780
But I guess my refuge was heroin,
661
00:37:59,780 --> 00:38:03,500
was drugs, and there I stayed
as long as I could.
662
00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:06,780
Keith Richards on guitar.
663
00:38:09,940 --> 00:38:13,340
# She drew out all her money at
the Southern Trust
664
00:38:13,340 --> 00:38:16,260
# And put her little boy aboard a
Greyhound bus
665
00:38:16,260 --> 00:38:19,380
# Leaving Louisiana for the Golden
West... #
666
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:21,140
As his star rises,
667
00:38:21,140 --> 00:38:23,620
keeping up with Keith in the 1970s
668
00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:25,260
becomes a deadly game.
669
00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:28,220
And his addiction to heroin
670
00:38:28,220 --> 00:38:31,180
ultimately threatens the future of
the band.
671
00:38:34,780 --> 00:38:36,340
I mean, the thing is,
most people
672
00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:37,620
are kind of shy
and awkward
673
00:38:37,620 --> 00:38:38,980
and they wouldn't have got
674
00:38:38,980 --> 00:38:40,700
on a stage if they weren't loaded.
675
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:45,060
So it works in your favour
in the initial years,
676
00:38:45,060 --> 00:38:47,940
but when it starts working
against you and you get addicted
677
00:38:47,940 --> 00:38:51,020
to the drugs, cos they're
addictive, then you have a problem.
678
00:39:25,220 --> 00:39:29,180
MUSIC ECHOES AND DISTORTS
679
00:39:36,060 --> 00:39:38,700
Everybody's got a
different metabolism,
680
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:43,780
a different way of dealing with
that amount of adoration.
681
00:39:43,780 --> 00:39:46,820
I just felt that as long as I kept
myself to myself,
682
00:39:46,820 --> 00:39:49,340
that, er, you know, there was no
reason for them
683
00:39:49,340 --> 00:39:52,140
to make any big fuss about it.
684
00:39:53,140 --> 00:39:55,300
Keith's transformation confirms
him
685
00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:58,020
as an international icon of
rebellion.
686
00:39:58,020 --> 00:40:00,780
And a target for the authorities.
687
00:40:01,740 --> 00:40:04,220
Late in the winter of '77,
688
00:40:04,220 --> 00:40:05,900
Richards is in Toronto...
689
00:40:08,220 --> 00:40:10,980
..where the Rolling Stones
are set to perform.
690
00:40:18,580 --> 00:40:22,780
We went to Toronto
to do this concert.
691
00:40:22,780 --> 00:40:24,420
I remember...
692
00:40:24,420 --> 00:40:30,020
when the police
were walking up the staircase...
693
00:40:30,020 --> 00:40:32,300
..and wondering
what that was all about.
694
00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:37,860
The day before, Keith's girlfriend,
Anita Pallenberg,
695
00:40:37,860 --> 00:40:39,700
arrives at Toronto Airport
696
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:42,460
and as the Canadian Police
search her belongings,
697
00:40:42,460 --> 00:40:45,380
they find her in possession
of hashish.
698
00:40:45,380 --> 00:40:47,020
An investigation begins
699
00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:51,420
that leads the police
all the way to Keith's hotel room.
700
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:55,100
Of course, he was found with drugs
701
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:57,180
and heroin and
all that kind of stuff
702
00:40:57,180 --> 00:40:59,780
because he had a habit at the time
703
00:40:59,780 --> 00:41:04,260
and the history of The
Rolling Stones changed on a dime.
704
00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:06,820
TV: The Rolling Stones is one of
the most famous rock groups
705
00:41:06,820 --> 00:41:08,100
in the world.
706
00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:10,980
A week ago, lead guitarist
Keith Richards was charged
707
00:41:10,980 --> 00:41:13,860
with possession of heroin
for the purpose of trafficking.
708
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:18,060
It was actually terrifying
because he realised
709
00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:21,500
he was up for, you know,
it could be 20 years of prison.
710
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:24,540
I think the reason I was taking it
711
00:41:24,540 --> 00:41:27,500
was how to deal with
fame and pressure
712
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:29,940
and it's one way to run away.
713
00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:32,260
I wouldn't recommend it
to anybody
714
00:41:32,260 --> 00:41:35,060
but there again it's
a personal choice, I don't know,
715
00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:36,420
and it's a rough old world
716
00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:38,780
and sometimes you need something
to blank it out.
717
00:41:40,140 --> 00:41:42,180
And it probably ain't worth
the ride.
718
00:41:49,020 --> 00:41:52,300
It was the realisation in Canada
719
00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:55,660
that I was actually
jeopardising the band.
720
00:41:57,420 --> 00:41:59,340
And if they were going
to put me away,
721
00:41:59,340 --> 00:42:01,380
I mean, it was bye-bye,
you know.
722
00:42:01,380 --> 00:42:04,540
If I get out of this and don't
have to cold turkey in jail,
723
00:42:04,540 --> 00:42:06,460
I'm going to go and clean up.
724
00:42:07,540 --> 00:42:11,220
He just made a commitment,
"I'm going to get this together,"
725
00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:15,580
because, at that point,
it was music or drugs -
726
00:42:15,580 --> 00:42:19,660
and music was far more important
than drugs.
727
00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:22,460
How do you think this conviction is
going to affect you and your music
728
00:42:22,460 --> 00:42:23,940
and The Rolling Stones?
729
00:42:23,940 --> 00:42:26,380
I don't know. I just want to get on
with it now that it's over,
730
00:42:26,380 --> 00:42:29,020
you know, just get on with
what I'm supposed to be doing
731
00:42:29,020 --> 00:42:31,140
instead of worrying about this,
you know.
732
00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:32,900
Do you think it will have
any effect, then?
733
00:42:32,900 --> 00:42:35,780
I don't know.
Might get a song out of it.
734
00:42:35,780 --> 00:42:37,300
STADIUM CHEER
735
00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:40,660
MC: Ladies and gentlemen...
The Rolling Stones!
736
00:42:40,660 --> 00:42:42,380
UPROAR FROM CROWD
737
00:42:50,820 --> 00:42:53,780
It's not drugs, fashion
or lifestyle choices
738
00:42:53,780 --> 00:42:56,260
that will define Keith's story.
739
00:42:56,260 --> 00:42:58,500
It's his talent...
740
00:42:59,820 --> 00:43:02,420
..that marks him out as
one of the most important
741
00:43:02,420 --> 00:43:05,140
and influential artists of our age.
742
00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:14,380
Keith is all about feel
and instinct.
743
00:43:14,380 --> 00:43:17,700
If he's writing a song,
he may have two chords
744
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:21,420
and he's perfectly happy to sit
there and play those two chords
745
00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:23,860
for two hours.
746
00:43:23,860 --> 00:43:27,340
And he's just waiting for
the next part of the song to come
747
00:43:27,340 --> 00:43:29,020
but he's not going to force it.
748
00:43:29,020 --> 00:43:33,700
He's going to just keep playing
this mantra until something appears.
749
00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:35,540
And it always does.
750
00:43:37,540 --> 00:43:40,980
I really do like a striking intro
to records,
751
00:43:40,980 --> 00:43:43,340
especially a rock and roll record,
you know,
752
00:43:43,340 --> 00:43:45,900
and I'm talking about
that particular format.
753
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:47,580
But if an intro can grab you,
754
00:43:47,580 --> 00:43:50,740
you're going to be in
for at least a few more minutes.
755
00:43:50,740 --> 00:43:54,100
And if the riff behind that intro
grabs you, then,
756
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:55,900
then, you've pretty much got 'em.
757
00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:57,180
MACHINE CLICKS
758
00:43:58,420 --> 00:44:00,900
INTRODUCTION TO GIMME SHELTER
759
00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:02,900
If you listen to
The Rolling Stones' records,
760
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:06,180
Keith wrote some
unbelievable intros.
761
00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:13,940
MUSIC: Gimme Shelter
by The Rolling Stones
762
00:44:13,940 --> 00:44:17,980
Every guitar player in the world
went, "Wow!"
763
00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:19,860
And, you know, "How did he do that?"
764
00:44:19,860 --> 00:44:21,940
Well, he took off one string.
765
00:44:21,940 --> 00:44:23,340
There's five strings.
766
00:44:23,340 --> 00:44:25,940
I take the bottom string goes off,
767
00:44:25,940 --> 00:44:30,380
and then, you tune the rest
of the strings to the chord of G.
768
00:44:30,380 --> 00:44:32,260
That tuning of his,
there's
769
00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:34,540
something menacing
about that.
770
00:44:34,540 --> 00:44:38,820
Just to weave that
in the centre of the groove.
771
00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:42,620
That is a brilliant guitar sound.
772
00:44:42,620 --> 00:44:46,220
It says so much with so little.
773
00:44:46,220 --> 00:44:47,820
Holy smoke!
774
00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:52,020
There's something about
the intonation of the notes,
775
00:44:52,020 --> 00:44:55,180
the separation and the point
that I would say is almost mystical
776
00:44:55,180 --> 00:44:57,740
that when hitting it the right way
in the right moment,
777
00:44:57,740 --> 00:45:00,100
you know - cheap ride to heaven.
778
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:03,500
# My very life today
779
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:07,540
# If I don't get some shelter
780
00:45:07,540 --> 00:45:11,460
# Ooh, yeah, I'm gonna fade away
781
00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:13,060
# War, children... #
782
00:45:13,060 --> 00:45:16,460
Silence is your canvas,
for a musician,
783
00:45:16,460 --> 00:45:18,940
and it's how much
you fill in the canvas
784
00:45:18,940 --> 00:45:21,620
and how much light you let through.
785
00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:26,300
It's something you really don't
know, it's almost intuitive.
786
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:29,140
You do it by feel,
really, on instinct.
787
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:38,220
# Ooh, see the fire is sweepin'... #
788
00:45:38,220 --> 00:45:40,220
There is a Keith Richards' sound
789
00:45:40,220 --> 00:45:43,020
and a Keith Richards'
approach to the guitar
790
00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:45,460
that just is unlike
anything that
791
00:45:45,460 --> 00:45:47,900
I've ever heard from anyone else.
792
00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:50,580
There's a certain type of way that
he plays in the middle of the neck
793
00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:53,140
and a certain hammering, slashing.
794
00:45:53,140 --> 00:45:55,780
# War, children
795
00:45:55,780 --> 00:45:57,180
# It's a just a shot away... #
796
00:45:57,180 --> 00:46:01,780
I just love riffs. I just love
a great...connection of notes
797
00:46:01,780 --> 00:46:06,660
that can repeat themselves over
and over without being monotonous,
798
00:46:06,660 --> 00:46:09,980
without being boring,
and that's what a good riff is.
799
00:46:09,980 --> 00:46:12,980
It's the same old thing
but it keeps changing.
800
00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:18,980
People will still be
trying
801
00:46:18,980 --> 00:46:20,500
to play what he plays
802
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:22,540
50 years from now.
803
00:46:22,540 --> 00:46:24,980
There won't be another.
804
00:46:24,980 --> 00:46:28,740
GUITAR SOLO
805
00:46:33,340 --> 00:46:36,780
It's tough to characterise
Keith Richards' guitar playing.
806
00:46:36,780 --> 00:46:44,740
I believe it's a really organic
extension of who he is, of his soul.
807
00:46:44,740 --> 00:46:48,820
It's no different than speaking,
it's no different than walking.
808
00:46:48,820 --> 00:46:53,100
It's just a musical manifestation
of who he is
809
00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:55,940
and not all musicians are like that.
810
00:46:57,460 --> 00:47:02,260
Keith's always known
what he wants on the guitar.
811
00:47:02,260 --> 00:47:06,340
The way he plays is
he establishes the sound first -
812
00:47:06,340 --> 00:47:08,980
with Pierre, his guitar tech -
813
00:47:08,980 --> 00:47:13,980
and various ways of achieving
the desired effect.
814
00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:19,020
This is where he picks.
815
00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:21,300
It's so worn out that some
of the dots have come out.
816
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:22,900
He's lost a tooth here.
817
00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:24,260
HE CHUCKLES
818
00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:26,980
This actually looks scalloped,
but it's not,
819
00:47:26,980 --> 00:47:28,380
it's just for how worn out it is.
820
00:47:28,380 --> 00:47:30,500
He's actually wearing out
the fingerboard here,
821
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:34,740
and that's typical of where
he strums - up in this region.
822
00:47:34,740 --> 00:47:36,860
It's great when you see
the person
823
00:47:36,860 --> 00:47:39,060
that you listened to so
824
00:47:36,860 --> 00:47:39,060
many years ago
825
00:47:39,060 --> 00:47:41,900
still having a relationship
with their instrument.
826
00:47:43,140 --> 00:47:44,860
You've got five strings.
827
00:47:44,860 --> 00:47:47,900
There's only three notes
because there's two doubles,
828
00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:50,980
two sets of Ds,
two sets of Gs, and a B.
829
00:47:50,980 --> 00:47:54,860
So, the way it rings,
the way certain things ring,
830
00:47:54,860 --> 00:47:57,700
you don't hear that
on a normal guitar.
831
00:47:57,700 --> 00:47:59,980
It's definitely
not about filling it up.
832
00:48:01,220 --> 00:48:04,300
If you're still thinking about
what you can add
833
00:48:04,300 --> 00:48:06,700
instead of what you need
to take away,
834
00:48:06,700 --> 00:48:09,620
you're still at
the beginning stages.
835
00:48:09,620 --> 00:48:14,900
I didn't want to be a guitar player.
I wanted to make...noise
836
00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:18,700
and if it took using a guitar
to do it, I'd do it.
837
00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:22,820
I became a pretty good one
in...in some respects.
838
00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:26,180
I suppose, really, I'm saying
that I use the guitar really
839
00:48:26,180 --> 00:48:28,540
as a percussion instrument.
840
00:48:28,540 --> 00:48:30,380
It's a rhythm thing for me.
841
00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:33,380
Erm...I do love, you know,
playing solos,
842
00:48:33,380 --> 00:48:37,540
but I've always said to myself
that solos come and go,
843
00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:39,900
a riff lasts forever.
844
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:41,820
HE LAUGHS
845
00:48:41,820 --> 00:48:44,020
You know, it sort of rounds it off.
846
00:48:44,020 --> 00:48:46,100
It doesn't sound wrong
if it doesn't rhyme.
847
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:48,140
Play us a quick one.
848
00:48:48,140 --> 00:48:49,380
Really?
849
00:48:49,380 --> 00:48:53,300
KEITH STRUMS GUITAR
850
00:48:53,300 --> 00:49:00,540
MICK VOCALISES WITH GUITAR
851
00:49:01,780 --> 00:49:04,900
Mick and I in those days
used to sit around with guitars
852
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:07,100
and we'd write, that's what we did.
853
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:10,540
# I know you find it hard
854
00:49:10,540 --> 00:49:12,700
# To reason with me
855
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:15,620
# Ba-ba, ba-ba-ba
856
00:49:15,620 --> 00:49:18,620
# But this time it's different, oh
857
00:49:18,620 --> 00:49:20,460
# Ba-ba-ba
858
00:49:20,460 --> 00:49:23,460
# Darling, you'll see
859
00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:27,700
# You got to tell me
you're coming back to me... #
860
00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:31,900
Writing songs and making records,
it's like a jigsaw puzzle.
861
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:33,860
There's always that thing of
862
00:49:33,860 --> 00:49:36,820
not quite knowing
what's going to come up next.
863
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:44,060
When it all locks into position,
it is quite an incredible sensation
864
00:49:44,060 --> 00:49:50,020
and everybody that's involved
in doing that when it's happening
865
00:49:50,020 --> 00:49:54,900
knows that for a moment you're
in a special place, a special time
866
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:57,500
and, you know, you feel...
867
00:49:57,500 --> 00:50:00,700
actually where you feel very
privileged to actually be there.
868
00:50:03,940 --> 00:50:06,980
Every great song is born
of conversation.
869
00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:13,500
It really takes the two of them to
create that synergy and that energy.
870
00:50:14,980 --> 00:50:17,300
I mean, they're the perfect
yin and yang.
871
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:21,220
Mick is the guy that brings it.
Keith is the guy that holds it down.
872
00:50:22,580 --> 00:50:25,700
That rhythm is undeniable.
873
00:50:28,420 --> 00:50:30,900
I mean, he's the guy that
took Chuck Berry
874
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:33,460
and took Johnnie Johnson's
whole thing
875
00:50:33,460 --> 00:50:36,060
and brought it to a rock guitar
and an open tuning.
876
00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:41,220
You can write great songs
with people
877
00:50:41,220 --> 00:50:45,980
but when there is a dynamic there
that's bigger than the two of you,
878
00:50:45,980 --> 00:50:48,100
that's where the great stuff lives.
879
00:50:50,260 --> 00:50:52,780
It's the kind of a band
880
00:50:52,780 --> 00:50:56,620
that was built on "we",
not "me".
881
00:50:56,620 --> 00:51:03,140
It took the chemistry of
all of them to make it work.
882
00:51:04,220 --> 00:51:09,060
You can't say, "Oh, if I wrote
Angie, it's like, listen to this."
883
00:51:09,060 --> 00:51:12,260
And Keith's like, "That's a load of
shit, I want to write blues."
884
00:51:12,260 --> 00:51:14,140
No, it's the other way around.
885
00:51:14,140 --> 00:51:17,060
It's Keith saying,
"Listen to this melody."
886
00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:20,540
And I'm going... I could say,
887
00:51:20,540 --> 00:51:23,900
"That's not the blues.
That's...that's like...
888
00:51:23,900 --> 00:51:26,460
"that's bordering saccharine
ballads, you know."
889
00:51:26,460 --> 00:51:29,580
But I didn't say that, of course,
it's a very beautiful song.
890
00:51:29,580 --> 00:51:31,140
So, what I'm trying to say is
891
00:51:31,140 --> 00:51:33,660
that The Rolling Stones
are many, many things.
892
00:51:33,660 --> 00:51:36,660
And one of the good things
about The Rolling Stones is that
893
00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:39,020
they embrace a lot of
kinds of music.
894
00:51:39,020 --> 00:51:42,140
Yes, they're a blues band.
Yes, they're a rock band.
895
00:51:42,140 --> 00:51:44,100
Yes, they did things
like Paint It Black.
896
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:46,620
Yes, they did like classic rock.
897
00:51:46,620 --> 00:51:48,340
Yes, they did dance songs.
898
00:51:48,340 --> 00:51:50,420
You have to push innovation a bit
sometimes
899
00:51:50,420 --> 00:51:53,500
because people get older, they
just want to stick in one thing.
900
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:59,980
I think with Mick and
Keith over the years,
901
00:51:59,980 --> 00:52:01,740
they have an acceptance,
you know,
902
00:52:01,740 --> 00:52:03,300
a total respect for each other
903
00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:05,860
in terms of what they both
bring to the band.
904
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:09,980
And I think it's valid, actually,
to think that
905
00:52:09,980 --> 00:52:13,620
Mick has always been
the one driving them forward.
906
00:52:13,620 --> 00:52:16,540
It's always been Keith
that's been aware of
907
00:52:16,540 --> 00:52:18,500
the credibility of
the music they're making
908
00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:22,540
to make sure
it continues to be rooted.
909
00:52:24,220 --> 00:52:27,540
Keith had said, "Listen,
we are still this blues band,
910
00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:32,340
"irrespective of the pyrotechnics
and 200,000 people in the audience.
911
00:52:32,340 --> 00:52:37,380
"We're still that band that played
The Marquee in 1962 to 100 people."
912
00:52:38,860 --> 00:52:40,660
That is Keith looking back
913
00:52:40,660 --> 00:52:44,260
and holding on to
that rare musical depth
914
00:52:44,260 --> 00:52:46,100
and Mick propelling the band
915
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:48,660
into whatever the future
may bring for them.
916
00:52:50,780 --> 00:52:53,780
CROWD SINGING
917
00:52:55,020 --> 00:52:58,940
If it comes out of The Rolling
Stones, it's The Rolling Stones.
918
00:52:58,940 --> 00:53:01,660
Now and again, Mick and I
have come up with a song...
919
00:53:01,660 --> 00:53:03,020
HE LAUGHS
920
00:53:03,020 --> 00:53:05,140
..looked at each other and gone,
921
00:53:05,140 --> 00:53:08,620
"No, not The Stones, no, no!"
922
00:53:08,620 --> 00:53:12,020
# Please allow me
to introduce myself
923
00:53:12,020 --> 00:53:14,020
# I'm a man of wealth and taste... #
924
00:53:14,020 --> 00:53:16,140
There are few
songwriting partnerships
925
00:53:16,140 --> 00:53:18,740
to match Jagger and Richards.
926
00:53:18,740 --> 00:53:21,660
And despite their fair share
of disagreements,
927
00:53:21,660 --> 00:53:26,340
their relationship has endured
against all the odds.
928
00:53:26,340 --> 00:53:29,740
# And I was 'round when Jesus Christ
929
00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:33,340
# Had his moment of
doubt and pain... #
930
00:53:35,060 --> 00:53:41,740
You had this image of those two guys
being the first real example
931
00:53:41,740 --> 00:53:45,940
of a lead singer/lead guitar
player relationship.
932
00:53:45,940 --> 00:53:48,460
# Pleased to meet you
933
00:53:48,460 --> 00:53:51,500
# Hope you guess my name
934
00:53:53,860 --> 00:53:59,980
# But what's confusing you
Is just the nature of my game
935
00:54:03,860 --> 00:54:06,540
# Stuck around St Petersburg... #
936
00:54:06,540 --> 00:54:08,180
Mick wants to be the
leader.
937
00:54:08,180 --> 00:54:09,860
He's the leader of
the pack.
938
00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:13,860
Keith doesn't give a fuck
about being a leader
939
00:54:13,860 --> 00:54:15,700
but he thinks he really is.
940
00:54:17,020 --> 00:54:18,940
They're completely different.
941
00:54:18,940 --> 00:54:20,500
Mick wants to try new
things.
942
00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:24,420
He is very much a part of
whatever's going on.
943
00:54:24,420 --> 00:54:27,180
Keith is technophobic.
944
00:54:27,180 --> 00:54:32,180
That is one of the things that
still makes the edge between them.
945
00:54:32,180 --> 00:54:34,500
We all have separate lives,
separate identities,
946
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:37,340
and musically, they're yin and yang.
947
00:54:39,220 --> 00:54:41,260
They're joined at the hip.
948
00:54:41,260 --> 00:54:42,500
Has there been times when
the
949
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:43,900
disagreements have flared
up?
950
00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:45,220
Of course there has.
951
00:54:45,220 --> 00:54:48,260
But I think you take a deep breath,
you look at each other and say,
952
00:54:48,260 --> 00:54:50,620
"Wait a minute. Last time I checked,
953
00:54:50,620 --> 00:54:53,500
"the whole is greater
than the sum of its parts."
954
00:54:58,980 --> 00:55:00,860
Even at times when Mick and Keith
955
00:55:00,860 --> 00:55:03,620
weren't at their best
relationship-wise,
956
00:55:03,620 --> 00:55:06,580
I would dare you
to get between them.
957
00:55:06,580 --> 00:55:10,060
There's a bond there
that can't be broken.
958
00:55:10,060 --> 00:55:13,220
To do it for this long, Mick and I
both look at each other...
959
00:55:13,220 --> 00:55:14,620
HE CHUCKLES
960
00:55:14,620 --> 00:55:17,700
We must be doing something right!
I don't know what it is.
961
00:55:19,180 --> 00:55:24,500
The idea of turning people on
for 60 years is like, whoa!
962
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:26,140
HE LAUGHS
963
00:55:26,140 --> 00:55:28,580
But the thing is relentless.
964
00:55:28,580 --> 00:55:31,780
It's like being a juggernaut.
965
00:55:31,780 --> 00:55:33,860
# Guess my name... #
966
00:55:38,820 --> 00:55:43,060
You see them walk to the stage
as older guys,
967
00:55:43,060 --> 00:55:44,540
and they climb the stairs,
968
00:55:44,540 --> 00:55:46,740
and each stair,
969
00:55:46,740 --> 00:55:49,540
another piece of energy comes up.
970
00:55:51,260 --> 00:55:52,580
And then, they go out.
971
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:55,380
It's like a shot of lightning.
972
00:55:55,380 --> 00:55:57,860
# Just call me Lucifer... #
973
00:55:57,860 --> 00:55:59,580
It's like going to
Never Never Land.
974
00:55:59,580 --> 00:56:02,820
# I'm in need of some restraint
975
00:56:02,820 --> 00:56:05,380
# So if you meet me
976
00:56:05,380 --> 00:56:07,300
# Have some courtesy
977
00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:10,940
# Sympathy and some taste... #
978
00:56:12,220 --> 00:56:14,140
The music comes first.
979
00:56:14,140 --> 00:56:17,380
Writing, recording,
performing music -
980
00:56:17,380 --> 00:56:19,900
that's where they're at.
981
00:56:19,900 --> 00:56:25,140
When they finally step off the stage
for the last time,
982
00:56:25,140 --> 00:56:30,020
we will all know that we shall never
see anything like that ever again.
983
00:56:30,020 --> 00:56:32,340
# Yes...
984
00:56:32,340 --> 00:56:37,580
# What's confusing you
Is just the nature of my game
985
00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:40,140
# Yes... #
986
00:56:41,660 --> 00:56:43,180
CROWD NOISE
987
00:56:43,180 --> 00:56:44,740
Come on!
988
00:56:44,740 --> 00:56:46,020
Yeah!
989
00:56:46,020 --> 00:56:48,940
MUSIC CONTINUES, CROWD CHEERING
990
00:57:05,460 --> 00:57:08,620
I mean, God knows what I'd have been
like if I didn't do this -
991
00:57:08,620 --> 00:57:10,140
my wildest nightmare.
992
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:15,180
Really, all you wanted to do
was play music,
993
00:57:15,180 --> 00:57:18,940
trying to get it better,
trying to get the band tighter.
994
00:57:18,940 --> 00:57:21,620
MUSIC ENDS, CROWD ROARS
995
00:57:26,860 --> 00:57:29,060
Not many people get
a chance to do this
996
00:57:29,060 --> 00:57:32,300
with thousands of people,
you know, as a job.
997
00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:34,420
CROWD CHEERS
998
00:57:35,860 --> 00:57:40,660
CROWD CHANTS: Ole, ole, ole, ole!
999
00:57:44,860 --> 00:57:47,860
You know, when you're exchanging
that much appreciation
1000
00:57:47,860 --> 00:57:52,340
to each other,
it is profoundly touching.
1001
00:57:55,980 --> 00:57:58,180
Music is a resilient thing.
1002
00:57:58,180 --> 00:58:00,100
And sometimes I think,
1003
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:03,260
God, is it the only thing we've got
that we can trust?
1004
00:58:03,260 --> 00:58:04,500
HE CHUCKLES
1005
00:58:06,140 --> 00:58:10,060
CROWD CONTINUES TO ROAR, WHISTLING
1006
00:58:13,020 --> 00:58:16,820
I gave up many years ago
trying to analyse this bunch
1007
00:58:16,820 --> 00:58:19,220
and why it works and how it works.
1008
00:58:22,220 --> 00:58:25,780
I've found the best remedy is
to put them all together in a room
1009
00:58:25,780 --> 00:58:29,020
and say, "It goes like this -
one, two, three, four,"
1010
00:58:29,020 --> 00:58:31,180
and all the problems go away.
1011
00:58:31,180 --> 00:58:34,180
CROWD CONTINUES CHEERING
80199
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