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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,020 --> 00:00:03,180 OK, this is Keith, take one. 2 00:00:03,180 --> 00:00:05,980 MUSIC: Can't You Hear Me Knocking by The Rolling Stones 3 00:00:11,700 --> 00:00:15,940 Every guy I've ever met in my life wants to be Keith Richards. 4 00:00:15,940 --> 00:00:19,540 He is the epitome of a rock guitarist. 5 00:00:19,540 --> 00:00:22,660 The original, the one and only. 6 00:00:22,660 --> 00:00:23,980 It's Keith Richards. 7 00:00:27,180 --> 00:00:30,380 Keith Richards has led a life wreathed in legend. 8 00:00:31,940 --> 00:00:36,900 His attitude and legacy underpin the whole idea of the Guitar Hero. 9 00:00:38,340 --> 00:00:40,300 What troubled mind would around wondering 10 00:00:40,300 --> 00:00:42,700 what other people's perceptions are? 11 00:00:42,700 --> 00:00:44,860 I have enough dealing with my own. 12 00:00:46,220 --> 00:00:50,460 I can only imagine what delusions other people labour under. 13 00:00:52,540 --> 00:00:54,500 More than just a musician, 14 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:58,820 he's a defiant hedonist and a poster boy for sheer survival. 15 00:01:00,300 --> 00:01:02,940 Rock and roll has to have an element of danger 16 00:01:02,940 --> 00:01:05,460 and an element of unpredictability. 17 00:01:05,460 --> 00:01:09,500 And when you look at Keith Richards, he embodies every element 18 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:11,860 that you want in your rock and roll star. 19 00:01:13,340 --> 00:01:17,420 Keith is all about living your life with no-one telling you how to be. 20 00:01:19,340 --> 00:01:22,500 It's following who you are fearlessly. 21 00:01:23,820 --> 00:01:26,500 It's really the skin of the teeth. 22 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:29,580 First off, that it happens to you, then you've got to survive it, 23 00:01:29,580 --> 00:01:32,500 because you don't know what you're in for when you start this thing. 24 00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:35,140 I still don't. So many surprises. 25 00:01:47,060 --> 00:01:51,420 I could kid myself that I was obviously born to play rock and roll 26 00:01:51,420 --> 00:01:54,220 and be an enormous star. 27 00:01:54,220 --> 00:01:56,140 No, I dreamt of that, 28 00:01:56,140 --> 00:01:59,500 that doesn't, that's not the same thing as knowing, is it? 29 00:01:59,500 --> 00:02:02,780 Do we call that destiny? What do we call it? 30 00:02:02,780 --> 00:02:04,060 I call it love. 31 00:02:09,460 --> 00:02:11,620 There isn't another guitar player like Keith Richards. 32 00:02:11,620 --> 00:02:14,140 There's nobody who comes anywhere close to him. 33 00:02:16,180 --> 00:02:18,580 It was that sound of the guitar 34 00:02:18,580 --> 00:02:20,780 and the sound of that guitar 35 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:25,140 was the creation, I would say, of the Rolling Stones. 36 00:02:26,460 --> 00:02:28,860 He is definitely the archetypal 37 00:02:28,860 --> 00:02:32,380 bad boy rock guitarist personified, 38 00:02:32,380 --> 00:02:33,700 and he's the model 39 00:02:33,700 --> 00:02:38,340 that all of us rebellious rock guitar players followed from. 40 00:02:39,900 --> 00:02:43,340 Keith Richards wrote the dictionary version 41 00:02:43,340 --> 00:02:45,020 of what rock and roll was. 42 00:02:45,020 --> 00:02:49,180 A songwriter, a guitar slinger, a travelling troubadour. 43 00:02:50,140 --> 00:02:52,220 He's such an encyclopaedia. 44 00:02:52,220 --> 00:02:54,380 You need any advice? Just go to Keith, 45 00:02:54,380 --> 00:02:56,020 no matter what state he's in, he'll... 46 00:02:56,020 --> 00:02:58,340 Boom, go straight to the heart of something. 47 00:02:58,340 --> 00:03:01,140 "Oh, OK, that's the answer. Keith has the answer." 48 00:03:02,780 --> 00:03:04,900 Keith is somethin' else. 49 00:03:04,900 --> 00:03:07,460 He's emotionally very present. 50 00:03:07,460 --> 00:03:08,980 As present as you can be 51 00:03:08,980 --> 00:03:11,900 when you're really in the business of fantasy. 52 00:03:13,060 --> 00:03:16,060 Say you were a rock and roll fan as a teenager, 53 00:03:16,060 --> 00:03:18,860 you had five kids and you had to go to work 54 00:03:18,860 --> 00:03:21,980 at the assembly line for the Ford Motor Company. 55 00:03:21,980 --> 00:03:23,660 Well, if you go to a Stones show 56 00:03:23,660 --> 00:03:26,900 and Keith is standing there looking badass, 57 00:03:26,900 --> 00:03:30,500 you're visiting the part of you that you feel is missing. 58 00:03:33,420 --> 00:03:36,780 After 60 years, the Stones are still Rolling, 59 00:03:36,780 --> 00:03:41,460 playing sell-out shows in all four corners of the globe. 60 00:03:41,460 --> 00:03:46,060 But at the musical heart of every gig is one key character. 61 00:03:52,140 --> 00:03:55,580 I think everyone creates a character for themselves to a certain extent. 62 00:03:55,580 --> 00:03:58,540 I don't know whether Keith's created a character of himself 63 00:03:58,540 --> 00:04:01,300 which is real or not real. 64 00:04:01,300 --> 00:04:03,900 Keith's got a reputation as a hell-raiser, 65 00:04:03,900 --> 00:04:06,980 so I think he was very worried, at one point, 66 00:04:06,980 --> 00:04:09,860 if he was no longer going to be a hell-raiser, 67 00:04:09,860 --> 00:04:11,980 he's not that character any more, 68 00:04:11,980 --> 00:04:13,980 who are you, then? 69 00:04:13,980 --> 00:04:16,140 I don't think he cares about that any more. 70 00:04:16,140 --> 00:04:17,180 I don't blame him. 71 00:04:18,420 --> 00:04:20,260 Are you comfortable doing interviews like this? 72 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:22,180 I mean, you've been doing them for a long time. 73 00:04:22,180 --> 00:04:23,580 Is it something you relish? 74 00:04:23,580 --> 00:04:26,300 It depends on the interviewer, old boy. 75 00:04:26,300 --> 00:04:27,820 I don't mind. You know, it's... 76 00:04:27,820 --> 00:04:31,620 I mean, I must say, now and again, it's a grind, 77 00:04:31,620 --> 00:04:33,980 you know, answering the same questions. 78 00:04:33,980 --> 00:04:37,260 At the same time, that's a challenge, because you think, 79 00:04:37,260 --> 00:04:40,020 "Can I come up with another answer 80 00:04:40,020 --> 00:04:42,900 "that means the same thing in different words?" You know? 81 00:04:42,900 --> 00:04:45,340 So you slip and slide, you know. 82 00:04:47,020 --> 00:04:51,340 WAITS: If you have a persona, it is like a ventriloquist act. 83 00:04:51,340 --> 00:04:52,940 It's sitting on your lap, 84 00:04:52,940 --> 00:04:54,060 but it's not you. 85 00:04:55,620 --> 00:04:58,460 I guess you could call it convenient at times, 86 00:04:58,460 --> 00:05:01,940 but there are also other times when it's very inconvenient. 87 00:05:04,420 --> 00:05:07,980 We are all hand in glove in this dastardly scheme 88 00:05:07,980 --> 00:05:10,420 to sell our products. Um... 89 00:05:10,420 --> 00:05:14,860 But I consider it as part of the gig. 90 00:05:14,860 --> 00:05:17,180 So, uh...there we go. 91 00:05:17,180 --> 00:05:18,340 Story so far. 92 00:05:19,260 --> 00:05:21,620 Why are you coming to see the show? Who are you going to see? 93 00:05:21,620 --> 00:05:22,700 Keith Richards. 94 00:05:22,700 --> 00:05:24,340 I like his hair. 95 00:05:24,340 --> 00:05:26,540 Just his hair? I just like him. 96 00:05:30,540 --> 00:05:34,060 Life in the spotlight hasn't always been easy for Keith. 97 00:05:39,620 --> 00:05:40,860 JAGGER: He's terribly shy. 98 00:05:41,980 --> 00:05:44,220 I mean, as I knew him when he was a child 99 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:45,700 and growing up to be a teenager, 100 00:05:45,700 --> 00:05:47,460 I know what he's really, really like. 101 00:05:47,460 --> 00:05:50,340 No-one else knows him from that period except for me, I think. 102 00:05:55,340 --> 00:05:57,180 You can see from the interviews. 103 00:05:57,180 --> 00:05:59,740 He's introverted, naturally. 104 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:08,940 It's... 105 00:06:08,940 --> 00:06:11,380 ..hard to define shyness. 106 00:06:11,380 --> 00:06:13,300 I don't know, when it comes to shyness, 107 00:06:13,300 --> 00:06:15,460 I don't really know where to...to put it. 108 00:06:15,460 --> 00:06:18,900 I mean, I sometimes I think I use it as a weapon 109 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:20,980 and say, "Oh, he's shy," you know? 110 00:06:20,980 --> 00:06:23,980 And I guess, in a way, you get shy of things, 111 00:06:23,980 --> 00:06:25,740 crowds and stuff because, 112 00:06:25,740 --> 00:06:30,180 I mean, I can't go to a movie, to a cinema any more. 113 00:06:30,180 --> 00:06:31,780 Sometimes, when I have... 114 00:06:34,260 --> 00:06:36,740 ..I've never felt, like, more sort of embarrassed in my life, 115 00:06:36,740 --> 00:06:39,020 somebody going, "It's Keith Richards! It's Keith Richards!" 116 00:06:39,020 --> 00:06:42,460 I've ruined the whole movie for everybody, right? 117 00:06:42,460 --> 00:06:46,340 I mean... And then I go, "Excuse me," tripping over people. 118 00:06:46,340 --> 00:06:47,700 "I'll leave now." 119 00:06:47,700 --> 00:06:51,580 And, you know, I get shy in that situation, you know? 120 00:06:51,580 --> 00:06:54,340 And that just comes with fame and all of that crap, 121 00:06:54,340 --> 00:06:57,500 which loads, throws another load of stuff at you. 122 00:06:59,220 --> 00:07:01,620 JAGGER: If you're an extrovert in show business, 123 00:07:01,620 --> 00:07:03,020 I think you're in a good place. 124 00:07:04,220 --> 00:07:05,780 If you're an introvert in show business, 125 00:07:05,780 --> 00:07:09,020 it will cause you, probably, some anguish 126 00:07:09,020 --> 00:07:12,860 or discomfort, perhaps, or anxiety. 127 00:07:18,060 --> 00:07:21,260 Most people that are in bands, guitar players, 128 00:07:21,260 --> 00:07:23,300 maybe they're a little introverted, 129 00:07:23,300 --> 00:07:25,860 they're a bit awkward, they can't talk to girls. 130 00:07:26,900 --> 00:07:30,580 Even Jimi Hendrix would just be at the back of the class, mumbling, 131 00:07:30,580 --> 00:07:32,380 but give him a guitar 132 00:07:32,380 --> 00:07:34,300 and the world lights up. 133 00:07:36,780 --> 00:07:38,780 TURNER: Keith didn't care, in the beginning, 134 00:07:38,780 --> 00:07:41,700 about clothes or about his image. 135 00:07:42,780 --> 00:07:45,940 He was just concerned with the sound. 136 00:07:48,020 --> 00:07:50,980 This was his way of performing. 137 00:07:51,940 --> 00:07:54,300 He was back there making the sound. 138 00:07:57,900 --> 00:08:00,500 Keith is born in 1943, 139 00:08:00,500 --> 00:08:04,140 18 miles east of London in Dartford, Kent. 140 00:08:05,540 --> 00:08:07,700 I understand that you two, of all the five fellows, 141 00:08:07,700 --> 00:08:09,700 you two have been friends longest, is that right? 142 00:08:09,700 --> 00:08:11,740 You've known each other, went to school together? Yes. 143 00:08:11,740 --> 00:08:13,740 Little lads. When we were little boys. 144 00:08:13,740 --> 00:08:16,780 Little bitty boys. And you were raised around London, right? 145 00:08:16,780 --> 00:08:17,820 Yes. 146 00:08:17,820 --> 00:08:19,380 Is it in London itself, or... 147 00:08:19,380 --> 00:08:21,180 No, just outside, about 20 miles. In the suburbs. 148 00:08:21,180 --> 00:08:22,700 The suburbs of London. 149 00:08:22,700 --> 00:08:24,780 What's, what's the, uh, suburb called? 150 00:08:24,780 --> 00:08:26,380 Dartford. Dartford? 151 00:08:26,380 --> 00:08:28,140 You're right on the edge of the country, 152 00:08:28,140 --> 00:08:31,460 so you've got, you know, commuters, heavy industry 153 00:08:31,460 --> 00:08:33,940 and you've got countryside. 154 00:08:33,940 --> 00:08:35,860 Very beautiful, still very beautiful. 155 00:08:36,980 --> 00:08:42,860 The Dickensian sort of marshes that go to the Thames Estuary, 156 00:08:42,860 --> 00:08:46,220 described in Great Expectations so fully. 157 00:08:47,260 --> 00:08:51,660 Dartford? Is that on the planet Krypton? You know? Um... 158 00:08:54,380 --> 00:08:58,460 You were growing up in the residue of a huge world war, 159 00:08:58,460 --> 00:09:00,620 but you didn't know anything about it. 160 00:09:00,620 --> 00:09:02,020 It was just the way things were. 161 00:09:03,380 --> 00:09:05,540 Bombsite here, you know? 162 00:09:05,540 --> 00:09:06,780 "No, you can't have that. 163 00:09:06,780 --> 00:09:09,740 "We don't have any ration tickets left." 164 00:09:09,740 --> 00:09:12,700 I mean, it wasn't unusual. You didn't feel hard done by it. 165 00:09:12,700 --> 00:09:14,260 It was just the way it was. 166 00:09:16,420 --> 00:09:20,620 The exam called the 11 Plus looms large, 167 00:09:20,620 --> 00:09:24,620 sorting British kids into the different educational paths 168 00:09:24,620 --> 00:09:26,820 which will determine their future. 169 00:09:29,300 --> 00:09:31,700 I remember the 11 Plus. I didn't take it. 170 00:09:31,700 --> 00:09:36,100 I went down with some kind of flu at the time, or whatever it was. 171 00:09:36,100 --> 00:09:39,940 And so I didn't actually get to take it, which, I was immense... 172 00:09:39,940 --> 00:09:42,780 I think I had a psychosomatic disease, as I just... 173 00:09:42,780 --> 00:09:45,020 Exams are the thing that'll kill me, you know? 174 00:09:45,020 --> 00:09:46,820 I mean, it's... Jesus. 175 00:09:46,820 --> 00:09:51,500 You either became a professional, basically, of whatever, you know... 176 00:09:52,780 --> 00:09:56,980 Or, you know, you dug the ditches and you do, you know, 177 00:09:56,980 --> 00:09:58,180 what working men do. 178 00:09:58,180 --> 00:10:00,620 And, of course, being kids at that age, you don't realise 179 00:10:00,620 --> 00:10:03,620 that you're being streamed... 180 00:10:03,620 --> 00:10:07,540 ..to one aspect of society and, you know, 181 00:10:07,540 --> 00:10:10,460 you're being dumped, or you're being elevated. 182 00:10:10,460 --> 00:10:11,980 You have no idea, right? 183 00:10:11,980 --> 00:10:14,340 Anyway, I took the middle route and got expelled. 184 00:10:14,340 --> 00:10:16,260 Which I... 185 00:10:16,260 --> 00:10:20,780 ..I recommend heartily to any red-blooded English schoolboy. 186 00:10:20,780 --> 00:10:22,660 As far as I was concerned at the time, 187 00:10:22,660 --> 00:10:24,220 they'd heaped humiliation on me 188 00:10:24,220 --> 00:10:26,580 and I weren't going to take it any more, you know? 189 00:10:26,580 --> 00:10:30,340 You break it with one form of authority 190 00:10:30,340 --> 00:10:33,940 and maybe after that, you start to question... 191 00:10:35,300 --> 00:10:37,580 ..other forms of authority, you know? 192 00:10:37,580 --> 00:10:41,860 There was always something about being told what to do, 193 00:10:41,860 --> 00:10:44,260 especially without any reason. 194 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:51,020 If Rebel Keith is born of a healthy disregard for authority, 195 00:10:51,020 --> 00:10:55,700 it's his grandfather, Gus Dupree, an amateur jazz musician, 196 00:10:55,700 --> 00:10:59,220 who fosters an early enthusiasm for music. 197 00:11:02,540 --> 00:11:05,620 ARCHIVE: He was the father of seven daughters. 198 00:11:05,620 --> 00:11:07,660 Well, as far as I'm concerned, 199 00:11:07,660 --> 00:11:12,580 I seem to have been the only boy he didn't have. 200 00:11:12,580 --> 00:11:15,940 So, in fact, for me, he was more like a dad or a friend 201 00:11:15,940 --> 00:11:17,300 than a grandfather. 202 00:11:19,620 --> 00:11:21,580 He'd take me into music shops, 203 00:11:21,580 --> 00:11:23,580 but we'd always go in round the back. 204 00:11:23,580 --> 00:11:25,580 We never went in the front door. 205 00:11:25,580 --> 00:11:29,980 And there was always a little deal about, you know, some guitar strings 206 00:11:29,980 --> 00:11:32,180 or some violin strings. 207 00:11:32,180 --> 00:11:34,980 But then I would be in the back of these music stores 208 00:11:34,980 --> 00:11:38,460 for like hours, watching people make guitars, 209 00:11:38,460 --> 00:11:41,940 violins, repairing things. 210 00:11:41,940 --> 00:11:45,540 It was like magical stuff going on. 211 00:11:51,860 --> 00:11:55,540 He always had his violin and instruments ready. 212 00:11:56,500 --> 00:12:02,780 He never, ever once pushed me or tried to interest me. 213 00:12:02,780 --> 00:12:04,420 He would just play music, you know? 214 00:12:04,420 --> 00:12:06,660 All kinds, you know, jazz, classical. 215 00:12:06,660 --> 00:12:09,060 And then we'd just live our life around the music. 216 00:12:09,060 --> 00:12:11,340 Until one day, he noticed 217 00:12:11,340 --> 00:12:14,140 that I was looking at the guitar on top of the piano. 218 00:12:14,140 --> 00:12:16,420 And, uh... "Since you keep looking at that," 219 00:12:16,420 --> 00:12:18,060 he said, "you want to have a go?" 220 00:12:18,060 --> 00:12:20,260 And that's how... Boom, gave it to me. 221 00:12:20,260 --> 00:12:24,500 He said, "I'll show you a few chords here and you're on your own." 222 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:25,660 And that was it. 223 00:12:27,020 --> 00:12:28,660 Can we just talk about your first guitar? 224 00:12:28,660 --> 00:12:30,140 I think we've got it here. 225 00:12:30,140 --> 00:12:31,740 I'd love to see you handle it. 226 00:12:31,740 --> 00:12:34,580 So would I! That's all you need to do. OK. 227 00:12:34,580 --> 00:12:36,100 What the... 228 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:45,860 Careful here. Oh, that's it. Oh, man. 229 00:12:47,220 --> 00:12:50,620 Yeah. The mice were at it then, the mice have been at it now. 230 00:12:53,220 --> 00:12:54,380 This... 231 00:12:58,620 --> 00:13:03,180 ..I believe it is the one that my grandfather gave me. 232 00:13:04,740 --> 00:13:07,220 But I'm not sure about that. 233 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:08,820 I don't know, but... 234 00:13:16,460 --> 00:13:18,380 Definitely my grandfather. 235 00:13:21,260 --> 00:13:23,420 Wow, you see? Lovely piece of wood. 236 00:13:24,460 --> 00:13:26,700 MUSIC: Maybelline by Chuck Berry 237 00:13:28,460 --> 00:13:30,340 # Oh, Maybelline 238 00:13:30,340 --> 00:13:32,220 # Why can't you be true? 239 00:13:32,220 --> 00:13:33,500 # Oh, Maybelline... # 240 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:36,020 As Keith starts out on his musical journey, 241 00:13:36,020 --> 00:13:40,020 his attention is grabbed by an irresistible new sound. 242 00:13:40,020 --> 00:13:41,340 Rock and roll. 243 00:13:41,340 --> 00:13:43,140 # I was motivating over the hill 244 00:13:43,140 --> 00:13:45,260 # I saw Maybelline in a Coupe de Ville 245 00:13:45,260 --> 00:13:47,260 # Cadillac rollin' on over the road 246 00:13:47,260 --> 00:13:49,100 # Nothin' outrunning my V8 Ford... # 247 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:53,620 I was getting an urge for some country music and some blues. 248 00:13:53,620 --> 00:13:55,100 I was starting to get interested. 249 00:13:55,100 --> 00:13:57,620 Very little that you could get in England at the time. 250 00:13:57,620 --> 00:13:59,580 I think when rock and roll came along, 251 00:13:59,580 --> 00:14:02,940 it sort of fused the whole thing together for me, you know? 252 00:14:02,940 --> 00:14:05,380 Ha! You know, "Where have you been?" 253 00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:08,820 At that age, it was devastating. 254 00:14:08,820 --> 00:14:10,860 # Done got cloudy and started to rain 255 00:14:10,860 --> 00:14:12,860 # Tooted my horn for the passing lane 256 00:14:12,860 --> 00:14:14,740 # Rainwater blowing all under my hood... # 257 00:14:14,740 --> 00:14:17,940 That's it. That's where you want to go. That's... 258 00:14:17,940 --> 00:14:19,220 "Book me a room!" 259 00:14:20,740 --> 00:14:24,420 It was an exciting time to be a musician at that age. 260 00:14:24,420 --> 00:14:26,460 Yeah, it was great. Ha-ha! 261 00:14:51,060 --> 00:14:52,660 It was so completely different 262 00:14:52,660 --> 00:14:54,260 from anything we'd ever heard. 263 00:14:55,300 --> 00:14:59,900 And it had an excitement and a positivity about it, I suppose. 264 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:02,660 Rock and roll started whenever it was, '58. 265 00:15:02,660 --> 00:15:05,100 It was Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly 266 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:07,100 and all that lot that turned our heads. 267 00:15:08,420 --> 00:15:11,900 That introduced us more into folk, I suppose, and then into blues 268 00:15:11,900 --> 00:15:14,420 and the blues artists of the day. 269 00:15:14,420 --> 00:15:18,940 It was like collecting rare stamps, finding good blues records. 270 00:15:24,660 --> 00:15:26,820 JAGGER: The hits were released by major record companies. 271 00:15:26,820 --> 00:15:31,180 So, if it was a hit R&B track, or if it made the Hot 100, 272 00:15:31,180 --> 00:15:32,460 these were easy to get. 273 00:15:32,460 --> 00:15:35,180 Major labels released these records. 274 00:15:35,180 --> 00:15:39,300 To buy the whole album of Muddy Waters was much more difficult, 275 00:15:39,300 --> 00:15:42,100 and you had to go to a jazz shop in Charing Cross Road 276 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:43,740 and pay a lot of money for it. 277 00:15:43,740 --> 00:15:46,780 And we used to order them from America a bit cheaper 278 00:15:46,780 --> 00:15:48,780 and there was a sort of little network of people 279 00:15:48,780 --> 00:15:50,180 that had record collections. 280 00:15:50,180 --> 00:15:52,900 And so you would go to their houses and they would play you music 281 00:15:52,900 --> 00:15:55,260 and you would hear songs perhaps you'd never heard before. 282 00:15:59,900 --> 00:16:02,460 ARCHIVE: I was going to Sidcup Art School. Right. 283 00:16:02,460 --> 00:16:07,140 And Mick, at that time, was going to the London School of Economics. 284 00:16:07,140 --> 00:16:09,020 But I just get off at Sidcup, you know? 285 00:16:09,020 --> 00:16:12,700 Meanwhile, I'm sitting in the carriage and suddenly he walks in. 286 00:16:12,700 --> 00:16:16,340 "There's Mick," who I hadn't seen in years, you know. "Wow, man. 287 00:16:16,340 --> 00:16:19,100 "What's that under your arm?" 288 00:16:16,340 --> 00:16:19,100 HE CHUCKLES 289 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:22,220 And he pulls out the Best Of Muddy Waters 290 00:16:22,220 --> 00:16:25,140 and Rockin' At The Hops by Chuck Berry. 291 00:16:26,140 --> 00:16:29,700 And these are American pressings, you know, and you can't get 292 00:16:29,700 --> 00:16:31,300 these records in England at the time. 293 00:16:32,980 --> 00:16:36,220 Basically, that was the hook-up for the Stones and for Mick and I, 294 00:16:36,220 --> 00:16:41,140 was just that we had this same interest in music. 295 00:16:58,220 --> 00:17:01,700 BLUES HARMONICA PLAYING 296 00:17:09,540 --> 00:17:12,060 To know that these guys were dedicated enough 297 00:17:12,060 --> 00:17:15,300 to send their money off into the oblivion, 298 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:18,060 in the hopes that something would come back, 299 00:17:18,060 --> 00:17:22,300 and then they were, like, obsessed and live off of that record. 300 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:24,540 I just think it's just phenomenal. 301 00:17:26,100 --> 00:17:29,020 What was it about a cricket-playing, football-playing 302 00:17:29,020 --> 00:17:32,220 bunch of characters, who drank tea at four o'clock, 303 00:17:32,220 --> 00:17:34,100 who loved this music? 304 00:17:36,500 --> 00:17:40,740 Music from other cultures has a romantic flair 305 00:17:40,740 --> 00:17:43,300 and is kind of exotic. 306 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:48,060 So for the Rolling Stones, being teenagers in England, 307 00:17:48,060 --> 00:17:53,340 getting their hands on authentic American Blues records, 308 00:17:53,340 --> 00:17:56,700 authentic American folk records, country records. 309 00:17:56,700 --> 00:18:01,060 It carried with it this whole romantic gravitas. 310 00:18:03,860 --> 00:18:07,380 JAGGER: The thing about the blues is it felt like it was coming 311 00:18:07,380 --> 00:18:08,900 from some other place. 312 00:18:10,060 --> 00:18:14,100 And it's much more raucous, it's much more heartfelt, 313 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:16,700 it's much more vivacious. 314 00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:20,180 It's not being filtered through all these things. 315 00:18:20,180 --> 00:18:22,500 That's what kind of made us jealous in England, 316 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:25,540 was like, "Man, these cats have got, you know, 317 00:18:25,540 --> 00:18:27,700 "they've got a long stretch on us." 318 00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:30,100 And, you know, we had a lot of catching up to do. 319 00:18:32,180 --> 00:18:34,500 It was just a fascinating journey. 320 00:18:34,500 --> 00:18:38,500 And these presumptuous 18-year-old white kids, 321 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:41,460 who say, "We're going to be the best blues band in London." 322 00:18:43,220 --> 00:18:46,100 Robert Plant said it to me best. 323 00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:47,660 He said, "You know, Brian, 324 00:18:47,660 --> 00:18:51,460 "these white boys got a hold of American black music 325 00:18:51,460 --> 00:18:52,980 "and gave it fist." 326 00:18:52,980 --> 00:18:54,220 The Rolling Stones! 327 00:18:54,220 --> 00:18:56,820 WILD CHEERING 328 00:18:56,820 --> 00:18:59,300 # Said the joint was rocking 329 00:18:59,300 --> 00:19:01,860 # Going round and round 330 00:19:01,860 --> 00:19:04,420 # Yeah, reelin' and a-rockin' 331 00:19:04,420 --> 00:19:06,780 # What a crazy sound 332 00:19:06,780 --> 00:19:08,780 # But they never stopped rockin'... # 333 00:19:08,780 --> 00:19:11,180 I saw that whole thing go down, man, 334 00:19:11,180 --> 00:19:13,420 with the white blues. 335 00:19:13,420 --> 00:19:14,940 The English were ahead of it. 336 00:19:14,940 --> 00:19:15,980 They spread it. 337 00:19:18,460 --> 00:19:20,500 There was something really different about it. 338 00:19:21,980 --> 00:19:26,060 There was like this undulating rhythm happening 339 00:19:26,060 --> 00:19:28,260 and it was sexually charged. 340 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:32,140 # Goin' round and round 341 00:19:32,140 --> 00:19:34,180 # Yeah, reelin' and a rockin' 342 00:19:34,180 --> 00:19:36,820 # What a crazy sound 343 00:19:36,820 --> 00:19:39,580 # And they never stopped rockin' 344 00:19:39,580 --> 00:19:42,100 # Till the moon went down. # 345 00:19:43,340 --> 00:19:46,340 18, you know, playing your blues. 346 00:19:46,340 --> 00:19:49,900 And within a matter of months, women are trying to tear your clothes off 347 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:52,620 and they're jumping off of balconies. 348 00:19:52,620 --> 00:19:55,620 LAUGHING: This is not quite what I had in mind. 349 00:19:55,620 --> 00:19:56,900 It was mayhem. 350 00:20:10,420 --> 00:20:12,980 They were really good. 351 00:20:12,980 --> 00:20:18,580 My God, as a band, they were really good. 352 00:20:20,980 --> 00:20:23,340 They had this charisma. 353 00:20:23,340 --> 00:20:28,740 They were so cool and really didn't give a fuck. 354 00:20:28,740 --> 00:20:30,940 That was their attitude on stage. 355 00:20:30,940 --> 00:20:33,460 # What a crazy sound 356 00:20:33,460 --> 00:20:37,060 # And they never stopped rockin' 357 00:20:37,060 --> 00:20:39,540 # Till the moon went down 358 00:20:39,540 --> 00:20:41,820 # I said the joint was rockin' 359 00:20:41,820 --> 00:20:44,060 # Goin' round and round 360 00:20:44,060 --> 00:20:46,180 # Yeah, reelin' and a rockin' 361 00:20:46,180 --> 00:20:48,700 # What a crazy sound 362 00:20:48,700 --> 00:20:51,460 # And they never stopped rockin' 363 00:20:51,460 --> 00:20:53,860 # Till the moon went down... # 364 00:20:55,980 --> 00:21:00,140 The Stones represented a danger, 365 00:21:00,140 --> 00:21:02,020 a teenage danger that we 366 00:21:02,020 --> 00:21:04,820 hadn't really experienced before. 367 00:21:15,940 --> 00:21:19,940 They were definitely different than, say, the Beatles. 368 00:21:21,340 --> 00:21:23,220 The Beatles were there to entertain you. 369 00:21:24,460 --> 00:21:28,060 These guys came for your daughters. HE LAUGHS 370 00:21:32,020 --> 00:21:35,420 The Rolling Stones connect with a post-war generation 371 00:21:35,420 --> 00:21:38,180 eager for new music. 372 00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:40,060 But the key to their success 373 00:21:40,060 --> 00:21:43,540 is a reverence for a blues sound steeped in history. 374 00:21:46,220 --> 00:21:47,820 We did it through researching, 375 00:21:47,820 --> 00:21:51,060 getting really soaked up in the blues, you know. 376 00:21:51,060 --> 00:21:52,340 We wanted to find out... 377 00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:58,460 ..where the funkiest, swampiest damn stuff came from, you know. 378 00:21:58,460 --> 00:22:00,660 MUSIC: Hobo Blues by John Lee Hooker 379 00:22:00,660 --> 00:22:03,780 Keith Richards' choice of listening music 380 00:22:03,780 --> 00:22:06,820 is a great musicology course for anybody. 381 00:22:09,180 --> 00:22:14,300 He had a sort of evangelical drive to expose people to the blues. 382 00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:18,140 # When I first thought to hoboin' 383 00:22:18,140 --> 00:22:19,660 # Hoboin' 384 00:22:22,220 --> 00:22:26,540 # I took a freight train to be my friend... # 385 00:22:27,780 --> 00:22:29,020 We would have a lot of 386 00:22:29,020 --> 00:22:31,220 listening sessions in Keith's room 387 00:22:31,220 --> 00:22:34,060 with just all this great black music. 388 00:22:34,060 --> 00:22:38,220 And I think the Rolling Stones actually tapping into that. 389 00:22:39,660 --> 00:22:41,420 # You know I hobo'd, hobo'd, hobo'd... # 390 00:22:41,420 --> 00:22:44,540 And expressing it in their way 391 00:22:44,540 --> 00:22:49,180 is the evolution of the music, as it should be. 392 00:22:49,180 --> 00:22:50,540 # Oh, yeah. # 393 00:22:51,540 --> 00:22:53,700 I think the whole wave of music 394 00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:58,140 that came out of England in the mid 1960s 395 00:22:58,140 --> 00:23:04,900 was a reflection of the best of what we had cooked up over here 396 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:06,780 over the last 50 years. 397 00:23:11,860 --> 00:23:14,900 They embraced it in the most beautiful way. 398 00:23:14,900 --> 00:23:16,620 They honoured that music. 399 00:23:16,620 --> 00:23:19,460 # I left home that morning 400 00:23:22,460 --> 00:23:25,140 # My mother followed me down to that... # 401 00:23:25,140 --> 00:23:28,740 Being in America, to find out that what we'd heard in England 402 00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:31,220 was only the tip of an iceberg 403 00:23:31,220 --> 00:23:34,540 and that you could burrow far deeper, 404 00:23:34,540 --> 00:23:37,500 and that for every guy that you knew about, 405 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:40,740 there were ten others, easily as good. 406 00:23:42,500 --> 00:23:47,060 Music and the beat and the sounds came from the motherland. 407 00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:52,780 The black experience that is soulful, that has a cry, 408 00:23:52,780 --> 00:23:57,740 that has a deep understanding, that touches hearts, 409 00:23:57,740 --> 00:24:00,180 that communicates deeply. 410 00:24:03,140 --> 00:24:07,260 The Rolling Stones took it and ran and made it their own. 411 00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:11,740 # Next time I start to hoboin' 412 00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:16,620 # I'm going to have my baby by my side 413 00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:20,140 # And then I know my night 414 00:24:20,140 --> 00:24:21,980 # It won't be so lonely... # 415 00:24:21,980 --> 00:24:24,940 We were just a bunch of guys that loved our music, 416 00:24:24,940 --> 00:24:26,660 were obsessed with our music, 417 00:24:26,660 --> 00:24:30,580 but in our English fantasy of America in the '50s, 418 00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:33,380 it just sort of pulled you and called you. 419 00:24:38,180 --> 00:24:41,020 It was the place to be if you wanted to be a musician. 420 00:24:42,380 --> 00:24:45,620 TV: Now, oh, something for the youngsters. 421 00:24:45,620 --> 00:24:49,380 Five singing boys from England who've sold a lot of albums. 422 00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:51,660 They're called The Rolling Stones. 423 00:24:51,660 --> 00:24:53,860 I've been rolled while I was stoned myself. 424 00:24:53,860 --> 00:24:55,580 LAUGHTER 425 00:24:55,580 --> 00:24:58,980 So I don't know what they're singing about, but, uh... 426 00:24:58,980 --> 00:25:00,220 ..here they are. 427 00:24:58,980 --> 00:25:00,220 APPLAUSE 428 00:25:06,180 --> 00:25:08,300 # I don't want you to 429 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:10,220 # Be no slave 430 00:25:10,220 --> 00:25:12,220 # I don't want you to 431 00:25:12,220 --> 00:25:14,180 # Work all day 432 00:25:14,180 --> 00:25:16,180 # I don't want you 433 00:25:16,180 --> 00:25:17,700 # To be true 434 00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:22,020 # I just wanna make love to you 435 00:25:22,020 --> 00:25:23,860 # Love to you, baby 436 00:25:23,860 --> 00:25:26,060 # Sweet love to you, baby 437 00:25:26,060 --> 00:25:27,340 # Love to you 438 00:25:27,340 --> 00:25:31,180 # I can tell by the way that you twist and walk 439 00:25:31,180 --> 00:25:35,260 # I can see by the way that you baby talk... # 440 00:25:35,260 --> 00:25:38,820 The Rolling Stones sang our music back to us. 441 00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:40,780 But they were singing with us. 442 00:25:40,780 --> 00:25:43,540 You know, I never felt that they were singing to us. 443 00:25:43,540 --> 00:25:46,660 I felt like they wanted to be one of us. 444 00:25:46,660 --> 00:25:47,740 I welcomed them. 445 00:25:47,740 --> 00:25:49,660 I think we all welcomed them. 446 00:25:51,660 --> 00:25:55,220 # I don't want you to be true 447 00:25:55,220 --> 00:25:59,460 # I just wanna make love to you, baby 448 00:25:59,460 --> 00:26:01,420 # Love to you, baby 449 00:26:01,420 --> 00:26:03,500 # Sweet love to you, baby 450 00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:05,460 # Love to you, baby 451 00:26:05,460 --> 00:26:07,140 # Love to you 452 00:26:07,140 --> 00:26:08,940 # I 453 00:26:08,940 --> 00:26:11,020 # Wanna make love 454 00:26:11,020 --> 00:26:12,500 # To you. # 455 00:26:24,260 --> 00:26:25,940 I was really excited 456 00:26:25,940 --> 00:26:28,820 that somebody felt and loved this music 457 00:26:28,820 --> 00:26:34,020 as much as I did and would dedicate their lives to playing it 458 00:26:34,020 --> 00:26:35,820 and exposing people to it. 459 00:26:38,380 --> 00:26:41,860 Some people thought they might have been appropriating, 460 00:26:41,860 --> 00:26:43,580 or this, that and the other thing. 461 00:26:43,580 --> 00:26:45,460 Well, um, 'scuse me, 462 00:26:45,460 --> 00:26:47,100 it's right here in your backyard, 463 00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,300 and I don't see you doing anything about it. 464 00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:55,060 ARCHIVE: Cos it's been said that the Rolling Stones 465 00:26:55,060 --> 00:26:57,500 gave black music back to the Americans. 466 00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:01,180 How do you feel these black musicians feel about The Stones? 467 00:27:01,180 --> 00:27:04,420 I mean, I know people like Muddy Waters, etc... 468 00:27:04,420 --> 00:27:07,060 ..are really grateful, you know, for... 469 00:27:07,060 --> 00:27:09,500 I mean, really, I mean, we did very little. 470 00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:12,540 I mean, all we said was that we dug Muddy Waters, you know? 471 00:27:12,540 --> 00:27:17,100 I mean, which happened to have a lot of an effect for him, you know? 472 00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:19,100 In his own life. It means more bread for him, 473 00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:21,380 because he got on to the white college circuit 474 00:27:21,380 --> 00:27:23,620 and things, which wouldn't have happened, things like that. 475 00:27:23,620 --> 00:27:25,540 But we weren't the only ones to do it. 476 00:27:25,540 --> 00:27:28,220 I mean, every English band in the '60s that went to America, 477 00:27:28,220 --> 00:27:29,660 you know, was... 478 00:27:29,660 --> 00:27:30,980 Came there and said, 479 00:27:30,980 --> 00:27:32,300 "Well, you know, we've got our 480 00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:33,780 "music from black records." 481 00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:40,500 This is way beyond our dreams 482 00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:43,540 of being the biggest R&B band in London. 483 00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:47,100 Muddy Waters has suddenly got a hit record again. 484 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,940 John Lee Hooker is on the charts, 485 00:27:48,940 --> 00:27:51,500 Slim Harpo and all of these people 486 00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:55,580 that were totally unknown two years before. 487 00:27:55,580 --> 00:27:57,580 And we felt very proud of the... 488 00:27:57,580 --> 00:28:00,020 I mean, Jesus, what a mantle we carry. 489 00:28:00,020 --> 00:28:01,940 I still get a nice warm glow 490 00:28:01,940 --> 00:28:05,580 out of turning everybody back on to their own stuff. 491 00:28:05,580 --> 00:28:08,780 To find yourself on the bill with Muddy Waters... 492 00:28:10,220 --> 00:28:12,420 Whoa. Victory is ours. 493 00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:13,900 You know, it's cool. 494 00:28:16,940 --> 00:28:20,420 A reworking of music that was already American 495 00:28:20,420 --> 00:28:24,380 helps the Stones storm the States and the world. 496 00:28:25,460 --> 00:28:27,380 In just a matter of months, 497 00:28:27,380 --> 00:28:32,820 their sound and image are number one on both sides of the Atlantic. 498 00:28:39,620 --> 00:28:42,340 We felt it was a gift coming to America. 499 00:28:43,740 --> 00:28:47,500 I mean, suddenly to be transplanted from, er... 500 00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:49,140 ..some wannabe... 501 00:28:50,860 --> 00:28:54,020 It was endlessly fascinating, America. 502 00:28:55,180 --> 00:28:56,380 After Dartford. 503 00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:02,660 We grew into it. And music grew into us and... 504 00:29:03,580 --> 00:29:07,580 ..America changed rapidly in '64, '65. 505 00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:13,380 White America, when we first came here, 506 00:29:13,380 --> 00:29:16,460 was incredibly old-fashioned to us. 507 00:29:16,460 --> 00:29:18,860 Our idea of America was modernity. 508 00:29:18,860 --> 00:29:22,660 And once you got out there in the sticks. Whoa! 509 00:29:22,660 --> 00:29:25,940 You realise the incredible gap there. 510 00:29:30,820 --> 00:29:32,140 America was the Holy Grail. 511 00:29:32,140 --> 00:29:33,540 It really, really was. 512 00:29:33,540 --> 00:29:35,900 And it was to do with not just 513 00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:38,380 wanting to be big in America. 514 00:29:38,380 --> 00:29:41,140 It was more that their fame and notoriety 515 00:29:41,140 --> 00:29:42,580 had given them an opportunity. 516 00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:46,340 It was like a laminate, a pass into American culture. 517 00:29:46,340 --> 00:29:48,380 And I think that was the thing with Keith. 518 00:29:48,380 --> 00:29:51,940 He saw the Stones as this amazing laminate 519 00:29:51,940 --> 00:29:57,020 into the fabric of what made American music what it was. 520 00:30:00,020 --> 00:30:01,500 I think it's the call, 521 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:05,460 but the Americans were still playing folk songs and folk music. 522 00:30:05,460 --> 00:30:06,940 Basically through country music, 523 00:30:06,940 --> 00:30:09,780 which always sounds like schmaltz to a lot of people, I know, 524 00:30:09,780 --> 00:30:12,740 but there's a lot of truth in country music. 525 00:30:13,980 --> 00:30:16,340 MUSIC: Wild Horses by The Rolling Stones 526 00:30:17,780 --> 00:30:19,460 I actually think that The Rolling Stones 527 00:30:19,460 --> 00:30:21,340 are some of the first proponents 528 00:30:21,340 --> 00:30:23,500 of what's now called Americana music. 529 00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:27,940 It's ironic, but you listen to something like Wild Horses. 530 00:30:27,940 --> 00:30:33,140 That's a pretty eclectic blend of authentic American music styles 531 00:30:33,140 --> 00:30:35,340 that no-one had really touched on before. 532 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:38,180 They've written some of 533 00:30:38,180 --> 00:30:39,860 the quintessential country songs, 534 00:30:39,860 --> 00:30:41,300 as far as I'm concerned. 535 00:30:43,060 --> 00:30:46,620 # Childhood living... # 536 00:30:50,340 --> 00:30:53,340 They're so much more than an R&B band, 537 00:30:53,340 --> 00:30:58,820 and they're also extremely brilliant pop song craftsmen. 538 00:30:59,940 --> 00:31:03,940 I think they took Jimmy Reed and Muddy Waters 539 00:31:03,940 --> 00:31:06,980 and George Jones and Merle Haggard 540 00:31:06,980 --> 00:31:11,180 and brought it back to us with pop hooks. 541 00:31:12,140 --> 00:31:14,740 I don't know that there is a band that can write better hooks 542 00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:15,980 than The Rolling Stones. 543 00:31:17,180 --> 00:31:19,700 I love that the Stones can do that, 544 00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:24,620 that they can take stuff from their influencers 545 00:31:24,620 --> 00:31:26,260 and do it their way. 546 00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:31,420 They translate it and do it their way. 547 00:31:31,420 --> 00:31:34,820 That's another wonderful thing they've taught me, 548 00:31:34,820 --> 00:31:37,420 is how to put a song together. 549 00:31:40,980 --> 00:31:44,740 # Wild horses 550 00:31:46,980 --> 00:31:51,300 # Couldn't drag me away 551 00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:58,700 # Wild, wild horses 552 00:31:59,820 --> 00:32:04,180 # Couldn't drag me away... # 553 00:32:04,180 --> 00:32:06,220 One of the things people don't talk about, 554 00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:07,780 or I don't hear talked about, 555 00:32:07,780 --> 00:32:10,220 is what a great songwriter Keith Richards is. 556 00:32:10,220 --> 00:32:15,020 And I think it's because he's so known as a guitarist 557 00:32:15,020 --> 00:32:19,060 and also because he's so known to be dissolute, or whatever, 558 00:32:19,060 --> 00:32:22,740 that beautiful thing is that he is, you know, that people, 559 00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:26,860 I don't think, have really recognised the extraordinary 560 00:32:26,860 --> 00:32:30,340 contribution that he's made through his songwriting. 561 00:32:34,660 --> 00:32:37,180 I really remember a particular, 562 00:32:37,180 --> 00:32:39,460 period as a really little guy 563 00:32:39,460 --> 00:32:43,780 from Beggar's Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, 564 00:32:43,780 --> 00:32:45,540 Exile on Main Street. 565 00:32:45,540 --> 00:32:49,460 That was the period when the Stones was the background music of my life. 566 00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:55,180 It just kind of adds another thread between this tapestry 567 00:32:55,180 --> 00:33:02,060 of this marvellous backlog of material that the Stones have. 568 00:33:02,060 --> 00:33:03,540 It's like... 569 00:33:03,540 --> 00:33:07,780 ..whoa! You know, what a legacy and... 570 00:33:07,780 --> 00:33:11,260 ..lucky dip. Take a song, you know? 571 00:33:11,260 --> 00:33:12,460 Pick it out. 572 00:33:19,420 --> 00:33:23,700 It soon becomes clear, writing, as well as performing smash hits, 573 00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:25,180 is the name of the game 574 00:33:25,180 --> 00:33:28,460 if they want to be a new kind of musical superstar. 575 00:33:30,020 --> 00:33:32,100 We were working the clubs in London 576 00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:34,620 and the Beatles just came out and had a hit - 577 00:33:34,620 --> 00:33:36,380 Love Me Do. 578 00:33:36,380 --> 00:33:38,660 And we said, "Oh, man, what a great record." 579 00:33:38,660 --> 00:33:40,700 The Beatles suddenly explode. 580 00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:43,260 And there's, there you are going... 581 00:33:43,260 --> 00:33:45,900 "Oh. Yeah, but we're a blues band." 582 00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:47,980 The Beatles changed this whole thing. 583 00:33:47,980 --> 00:33:54,020 Our job was to be like the premier rhythm and blues band in London, 584 00:33:54,020 --> 00:33:55,300 and we managed that. 585 00:33:56,580 --> 00:34:02,700 But we had no idea of progressing beyond that stage. 586 00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:05,900 Keith, he'd play The Beatles all the time. 587 00:34:05,900 --> 00:34:07,900 It'd drive me absolutely batty. 588 00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:10,380 And why he was playing The Beatles 589 00:34:10,380 --> 00:34:12,540 wasn't because he didn't want to listen to anything else. 590 00:34:12,540 --> 00:34:14,740 Keith wanted to write these pop songs, 591 00:34:14,740 --> 00:34:16,780 cos we're undeniably the blues band, 592 00:34:16,780 --> 00:34:18,660 but we... 593 00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:22,580 ..knew we had to be a pop band. 594 00:34:22,580 --> 00:34:25,420 We were just envious, too, man, you know? 595 00:34:25,420 --> 00:34:28,540 I mean, they're doing what we want, you know, they got it. 596 00:34:28,540 --> 00:34:30,620 You know? They can make records. 597 00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:35,660 The Holy Grail was to make records, to be able to get into a studio. 598 00:34:35,660 --> 00:34:36,900 It was like diamonds! 599 00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:39,100 You know, you'd think it was a gold mine, 600 00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:41,300 which in a way it was, you know what I mean? 601 00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:45,140 But you'd think you were invading Fort Knox, 602 00:34:45,140 --> 00:34:46,380 just to make a record. 603 00:34:46,380 --> 00:34:49,660 Without The Beatles, The Stones would never have been there. 604 00:34:49,660 --> 00:34:51,620 The reason The Stones existed, 605 00:34:51,620 --> 00:34:56,460 or got, made records, was because the record industry 606 00:34:56,460 --> 00:35:00,980 couldn't afford to lose another Beatles. 607 00:35:03,940 --> 00:35:06,540 We'd never have got in a recording studio without them. 608 00:35:07,620 --> 00:35:09,340 We would've sold, and I probably did, 609 00:35:09,340 --> 00:35:12,660 sell my soul just to be on tape, just to get on record, 610 00:35:12,660 --> 00:35:15,340 just to learn how records are made. 611 00:35:17,980 --> 00:35:22,420 Recording is, still is, to me, the most mysterious art. 612 00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:29,860 I think he could live in a studio. 613 00:35:32,340 --> 00:35:33,620 He just loves music. 614 00:35:34,860 --> 00:35:37,100 Music is always part of his life. Music is always on. 615 00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:38,740 Music is always the backdrop of his life. 616 00:35:38,740 --> 00:35:41,940 And the guitar is always there, the piano is always there. 617 00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:45,100 Always has it right handy whenever he wants it. 618 00:35:46,340 --> 00:35:48,420 But he loves the process. 619 00:35:48,420 --> 00:35:50,260 I think he loves the process more than anything. 620 00:35:50,260 --> 00:35:53,580 He loves developing a song. He likes to write in a studio. 621 00:35:56,740 --> 00:35:59,140 It's a kid's dream come true. 622 00:35:59,140 --> 00:36:05,220 I mean, you're constantly living those moments of, like, 623 00:36:05,220 --> 00:36:09,260 "I've got a guitar strapped up, in a studio to... 624 00:36:09,260 --> 00:36:11,860 "and we're cutting." You know, and... 625 00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,380 ..it's a surreal sensation in a way. 626 00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:19,220 Keith would come to the studio 627 00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:20,660 and he'd have maybe half an idea, 628 00:36:20,660 --> 00:36:22,420 and he'd sit and play it and play it 629 00:36:22,420 --> 00:36:24,140 and play it and play it on his own. 630 00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:26,260 And then, when he got it almost into shape, 631 00:36:26,260 --> 00:36:28,980 Bill and Charlie would sit with him and they'd play along with him 632 00:36:28,980 --> 00:36:31,620 to help him develop the riff into a song. 633 00:36:33,180 --> 00:36:39,300 The Stones have a great craft of songwriting, 634 00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:42,900 and that is how to present it. 635 00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:47,940 How to record it so that it knocks your socks off and you go, "Whoa!" 636 00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:51,540 What they've done is epic. 637 00:36:51,540 --> 00:36:56,620 The way they were able to weave these disparate elements together. 638 00:36:56,620 --> 00:36:58,100 It's a magic trick. 639 00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:00,620 What you do is the job of a minstrel. 640 00:37:00,620 --> 00:37:04,780 You know, songs evolve, music evolves. 641 00:37:04,780 --> 00:37:07,300 Keith was not the purist of the band. 642 00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:08,660 A blues purist. 643 00:37:09,620 --> 00:37:11,660 Keith liked to write pop songs. 644 00:37:11,660 --> 00:37:13,620 He wrote lots and lots of pop songs. 645 00:37:13,620 --> 00:37:17,460 Ruby Tuesday, As Tears Go By. 646 00:37:17,460 --> 00:37:19,900 He also wrote Angie. 647 00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:22,540 I mean, these are not blues songs as we know them. 648 00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:26,940 These are pop songs that emanate, really, from Keith, originally. 649 00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:31,620 Keith's talent drives the band's success, 650 00:37:31,620 --> 00:37:33,300 but he's a reluctant star... 651 00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:34,700 Just to tell you... 652 00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:39,300 ..struggling to handle the adoration and fame that engulfs the band. 653 00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:42,460 I'd have been quite happy 654 00:37:42,460 --> 00:37:44,860 to make all these records totally anonymously. 655 00:37:44,860 --> 00:37:46,900 HE LAUGHS 656 00:37:44,860 --> 00:37:46,900 But then, of course, 657 00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:48,860 I mean, that's not possible. 658 00:37:48,860 --> 00:37:51,780 I mean, hey, you've got to get out there and put yourself out. 659 00:37:51,780 --> 00:37:54,500 And I learnt how to do that and I quite enjoyed it. 660 00:37:55,860 --> 00:37:59,780 But I guess my refuge was heroin, 661 00:37:59,780 --> 00:38:03,500 was drugs, and there I stayed as long as I could. 662 00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:06,780 Keith Richards on guitar. 663 00:38:09,940 --> 00:38:13,340 # She drew out all her money at the Southern Trust 664 00:38:13,340 --> 00:38:16,260 # And put her little boy aboard a Greyhound bus 665 00:38:16,260 --> 00:38:19,380 # Leaving Louisiana for the Golden West... # 666 00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:21,140 As his star rises, 667 00:38:21,140 --> 00:38:23,620 keeping up with Keith in the 1970s 668 00:38:23,620 --> 00:38:25,260 becomes a deadly game. 669 00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:28,220 And his addiction to heroin 670 00:38:28,220 --> 00:38:31,180 ultimately threatens the future of the band. 671 00:38:34,780 --> 00:38:36,340 I mean, the thing is, most people 672 00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:37,620 are kind of shy and awkward 673 00:38:37,620 --> 00:38:38,980 and they wouldn't have got 674 00:38:38,980 --> 00:38:40,700 on a stage if they weren't loaded. 675 00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:45,060 So it works in your favour in the initial years, 676 00:38:45,060 --> 00:38:47,940 but when it starts working against you and you get addicted 677 00:38:47,940 --> 00:38:51,020 to the drugs, cos they're addictive, then you have a problem. 678 00:39:25,220 --> 00:39:29,180 MUSIC ECHOES AND DISTORTS 679 00:39:36,060 --> 00:39:38,700 Everybody's got a different metabolism, 680 00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:43,780 a different way of dealing with that amount of adoration. 681 00:39:43,780 --> 00:39:46,820 I just felt that as long as I kept myself to myself, 682 00:39:46,820 --> 00:39:49,340 that, er, you know, there was no reason for them 683 00:39:49,340 --> 00:39:52,140 to make any big fuss about it. 684 00:39:53,140 --> 00:39:55,300 Keith's transformation confirms him 685 00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:58,020 as an international icon of rebellion. 686 00:39:58,020 --> 00:40:00,780 And a target for the authorities. 687 00:40:01,740 --> 00:40:04,220 Late in the winter of '77, 688 00:40:04,220 --> 00:40:05,900 Richards is in Toronto... 689 00:40:08,220 --> 00:40:10,980 ..where the Rolling Stones are set to perform. 690 00:40:18,580 --> 00:40:22,780 We went to Toronto to do this concert. 691 00:40:22,780 --> 00:40:24,420 I remember... 692 00:40:24,420 --> 00:40:30,020 when the police were walking up the staircase... 693 00:40:30,020 --> 00:40:32,300 ..and wondering what that was all about. 694 00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:37,860 The day before, Keith's girlfriend, Anita Pallenberg, 695 00:40:37,860 --> 00:40:39,700 arrives at Toronto Airport 696 00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:42,460 and as the Canadian Police search her belongings, 697 00:40:42,460 --> 00:40:45,380 they find her in possession of hashish. 698 00:40:45,380 --> 00:40:47,020 An investigation begins 699 00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:51,420 that leads the police all the way to Keith's hotel room. 700 00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:55,100 Of course, he was found with drugs 701 00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:57,180 and heroin and all that kind of stuff 702 00:40:57,180 --> 00:40:59,780 because he had a habit at the time 703 00:40:59,780 --> 00:41:04,260 and the history of The Rolling Stones changed on a dime. 704 00:41:04,260 --> 00:41:06,820 TV: The Rolling Stones is one of the most famous rock groups 705 00:41:06,820 --> 00:41:08,100 in the world. 706 00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:10,980 A week ago, lead guitarist Keith Richards was charged 707 00:41:10,980 --> 00:41:13,860 with possession of heroin for the purpose of trafficking. 708 00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:18,060 It was actually terrifying because he realised 709 00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:21,500 he was up for, you know, it could be 20 years of prison. 710 00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:24,540 I think the reason I was taking it 711 00:41:24,540 --> 00:41:27,500 was how to deal with fame and pressure 712 00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:29,940 and it's one way to run away. 713 00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:32,260 I wouldn't recommend it to anybody 714 00:41:32,260 --> 00:41:35,060 but there again it's a personal choice, I don't know, 715 00:41:35,060 --> 00:41:36,420 and it's a rough old world 716 00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:38,780 and sometimes you need something to blank it out. 717 00:41:40,140 --> 00:41:42,180 And it probably ain't worth the ride. 718 00:41:49,020 --> 00:41:52,300 It was the realisation in Canada 719 00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:55,660 that I was actually jeopardising the band. 720 00:41:57,420 --> 00:41:59,340 And if they were going to put me away, 721 00:41:59,340 --> 00:42:01,380 I mean, it was bye-bye, you know. 722 00:42:01,380 --> 00:42:04,540 If I get out of this and don't have to cold turkey in jail, 723 00:42:04,540 --> 00:42:06,460 I'm going to go and clean up. 724 00:42:07,540 --> 00:42:11,220 He just made a commitment, "I'm going to get this together," 725 00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:15,580 because, at that point, it was music or drugs - 726 00:42:15,580 --> 00:42:19,660 and music was far more important than drugs. 727 00:42:19,660 --> 00:42:22,460 How do you think this conviction is going to affect you and your music 728 00:42:22,460 --> 00:42:23,940 and The Rolling Stones? 729 00:42:23,940 --> 00:42:26,380 I don't know. I just want to get on with it now that it's over, 730 00:42:26,380 --> 00:42:29,020 you know, just get on with what I'm supposed to be doing 731 00:42:29,020 --> 00:42:31,140 instead of worrying about this, you know. 732 00:42:31,140 --> 00:42:32,900 Do you think it will have any effect, then? 733 00:42:32,900 --> 00:42:35,780 I don't know. Might get a song out of it. 734 00:42:35,780 --> 00:42:37,300 STADIUM CHEER 735 00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:40,660 MC: Ladies and gentlemen... The Rolling Stones! 736 00:42:40,660 --> 00:42:42,380 UPROAR FROM CROWD 737 00:42:50,820 --> 00:42:53,780 It's not drugs, fashion or lifestyle choices 738 00:42:53,780 --> 00:42:56,260 that will define Keith's story. 739 00:42:56,260 --> 00:42:58,500 It's his talent... 740 00:42:59,820 --> 00:43:02,420 ..that marks him out as one of the most important 741 00:43:02,420 --> 00:43:05,140 and influential artists of our age. 742 00:43:09,620 --> 00:43:14,380 Keith is all about feel and instinct. 743 00:43:14,380 --> 00:43:17,700 If he's writing a song, he may have two chords 744 00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:21,420 and he's perfectly happy to sit there and play those two chords 745 00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:23,860 for two hours. 746 00:43:23,860 --> 00:43:27,340 And he's just waiting for the next part of the song to come 747 00:43:27,340 --> 00:43:29,020 but he's not going to force it. 748 00:43:29,020 --> 00:43:33,700 He's going to just keep playing this mantra until something appears. 749 00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:35,540 And it always does. 750 00:43:37,540 --> 00:43:40,980 I really do like a striking intro to records, 751 00:43:40,980 --> 00:43:43,340 especially a rock and roll record, you know, 752 00:43:43,340 --> 00:43:45,900 and I'm talking about that particular format. 753 00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:47,580 But if an intro can grab you, 754 00:43:47,580 --> 00:43:50,740 you're going to be in for at least a few more minutes. 755 00:43:50,740 --> 00:43:54,100 And if the riff behind that intro grabs you, then, 756 00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:55,900 then, you've pretty much got 'em. 757 00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:57,180 MACHINE CLICKS 758 00:43:58,420 --> 00:44:00,900 INTRODUCTION TO GIMME SHELTER 759 00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:02,900 If you listen to The Rolling Stones' records, 760 00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:06,180 Keith wrote some unbelievable intros. 761 00:44:06,180 --> 00:44:13,940 MUSIC: Gimme Shelter by The Rolling Stones 762 00:44:13,940 --> 00:44:17,980 Every guitar player in the world went, "Wow!" 763 00:44:17,980 --> 00:44:19,860 And, you know, "How did he do that?" 764 00:44:19,860 --> 00:44:21,940 Well, he took off one string. 765 00:44:21,940 --> 00:44:23,340 There's five strings. 766 00:44:23,340 --> 00:44:25,940 I take the bottom string goes off, 767 00:44:25,940 --> 00:44:30,380 and then, you tune the rest of the strings to the chord of G. 768 00:44:30,380 --> 00:44:32,260 That tuning of his, there's 769 00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:34,540 something menacing about that. 770 00:44:34,540 --> 00:44:38,820 Just to weave that in the centre of the groove. 771 00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:42,620 That is a brilliant guitar sound. 772 00:44:42,620 --> 00:44:46,220 It says so much with so little. 773 00:44:46,220 --> 00:44:47,820 Holy smoke! 774 00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:52,020 There's something about the intonation of the notes, 775 00:44:52,020 --> 00:44:55,180 the separation and the point that I would say is almost mystical 776 00:44:55,180 --> 00:44:57,740 that when hitting it the right way in the right moment, 777 00:44:57,740 --> 00:45:00,100 you know - cheap ride to heaven. 778 00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:03,500 # My very life today 779 00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:07,540 # If I don't get some shelter 780 00:45:07,540 --> 00:45:11,460 # Ooh, yeah, I'm gonna fade away 781 00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:13,060 # War, children... # 782 00:45:13,060 --> 00:45:16,460 Silence is your canvas, for a musician, 783 00:45:16,460 --> 00:45:18,940 and it's how much you fill in the canvas 784 00:45:18,940 --> 00:45:21,620 and how much light you let through. 785 00:45:21,620 --> 00:45:26,300 It's something you really don't know, it's almost intuitive. 786 00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:29,140 You do it by feel, really, on instinct. 787 00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:38,220 # Ooh, see the fire is sweepin'... # 788 00:45:38,220 --> 00:45:40,220 There is a Keith Richards' sound 789 00:45:40,220 --> 00:45:43,020 and a Keith Richards' approach to the guitar 790 00:45:43,020 --> 00:45:45,460 that just is unlike anything that 791 00:45:45,460 --> 00:45:47,900 I've ever heard from anyone else. 792 00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:50,580 There's a certain type of way that he plays in the middle of the neck 793 00:45:50,580 --> 00:45:53,140 and a certain hammering, slashing. 794 00:45:53,140 --> 00:45:55,780 # War, children 795 00:45:55,780 --> 00:45:57,180 # It's a just a shot away... # 796 00:45:57,180 --> 00:46:01,780 I just love riffs. I just love a great...connection of notes 797 00:46:01,780 --> 00:46:06,660 that can repeat themselves over and over without being monotonous, 798 00:46:06,660 --> 00:46:09,980 without being boring, and that's what a good riff is. 799 00:46:09,980 --> 00:46:12,980 It's the same old thing but it keeps changing. 800 00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:18,980 People will still be trying 801 00:46:18,980 --> 00:46:20,500 to play what he plays 802 00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:22,540 50 years from now. 803 00:46:22,540 --> 00:46:24,980 There won't be another. 804 00:46:24,980 --> 00:46:28,740 GUITAR SOLO 805 00:46:33,340 --> 00:46:36,780 It's tough to characterise Keith Richards' guitar playing. 806 00:46:36,780 --> 00:46:44,740 I believe it's a really organic extension of who he is, of his soul. 807 00:46:44,740 --> 00:46:48,820 It's no different than speaking, it's no different than walking. 808 00:46:48,820 --> 00:46:53,100 It's just a musical manifestation of who he is 809 00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:55,940 and not all musicians are like that. 810 00:46:57,460 --> 00:47:02,260 Keith's always known what he wants on the guitar. 811 00:47:02,260 --> 00:47:06,340 The way he plays is he establishes the sound first - 812 00:47:06,340 --> 00:47:08,980 with Pierre, his guitar tech - 813 00:47:08,980 --> 00:47:13,980 and various ways of achieving the desired effect. 814 00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:19,020 This is where he picks. 815 00:47:19,020 --> 00:47:21,300 It's so worn out that some of the dots have come out. 816 00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:22,900 He's lost a tooth here. 817 00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:24,260 HE CHUCKLES 818 00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:26,980 This actually looks scalloped, but it's not, 819 00:47:26,980 --> 00:47:28,380 it's just for how worn out it is. 820 00:47:28,380 --> 00:47:30,500 He's actually wearing out the fingerboard here, 821 00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:34,740 and that's typical of where he strums - up in this region. 822 00:47:34,740 --> 00:47:36,860 It's great when you see the person 823 00:47:36,860 --> 00:47:39,060 that you listened to so 824 00:47:36,860 --> 00:47:39,060 many years ago 825 00:47:39,060 --> 00:47:41,900 still having a relationship with their instrument. 826 00:47:43,140 --> 00:47:44,860 You've got five strings. 827 00:47:44,860 --> 00:47:47,900 There's only three notes because there's two doubles, 828 00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:50,980 two sets of Ds, two sets of Gs, and a B. 829 00:47:50,980 --> 00:47:54,860 So, the way it rings, the way certain things ring, 830 00:47:54,860 --> 00:47:57,700 you don't hear that on a normal guitar. 831 00:47:57,700 --> 00:47:59,980 It's definitely not about filling it up. 832 00:48:01,220 --> 00:48:04,300 If you're still thinking about what you can add 833 00:48:04,300 --> 00:48:06,700 instead of what you need to take away, 834 00:48:06,700 --> 00:48:09,620 you're still at the beginning stages. 835 00:48:09,620 --> 00:48:14,900 I didn't want to be a guitar player. I wanted to make...noise 836 00:48:14,900 --> 00:48:18,700 and if it took using a guitar to do it, I'd do it. 837 00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:22,820 I became a pretty good one in...in some respects. 838 00:48:22,820 --> 00:48:26,180 I suppose, really, I'm saying that I use the guitar really 839 00:48:26,180 --> 00:48:28,540 as a percussion instrument. 840 00:48:28,540 --> 00:48:30,380 It's a rhythm thing for me. 841 00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:33,380 Erm...I do love, you know, playing solos, 842 00:48:33,380 --> 00:48:37,540 but I've always said to myself that solos come and go, 843 00:48:37,540 --> 00:48:39,900 a riff lasts forever. 844 00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:41,820 HE LAUGHS 845 00:48:41,820 --> 00:48:44,020 You know, it sort of rounds it off. 846 00:48:44,020 --> 00:48:46,100 It doesn't sound wrong if it doesn't rhyme. 847 00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:48,140 Play us a quick one. 848 00:48:48,140 --> 00:48:49,380 Really? 849 00:48:49,380 --> 00:48:53,300 KEITH STRUMS GUITAR 850 00:48:53,300 --> 00:49:00,540 MICK VOCALISES WITH GUITAR 851 00:49:01,780 --> 00:49:04,900 Mick and I in those days used to sit around with guitars 852 00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:07,100 and we'd write, that's what we did. 853 00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:10,540 # I know you find it hard 854 00:49:10,540 --> 00:49:12,700 # To reason with me 855 00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:15,620 # Ba-ba, ba-ba-ba 856 00:49:15,620 --> 00:49:18,620 # But this time it's different, oh 857 00:49:18,620 --> 00:49:20,460 # Ba-ba-ba 858 00:49:20,460 --> 00:49:23,460 # Darling, you'll see 859 00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:27,700 # You got to tell me you're coming back to me... # 860 00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:31,900 Writing songs and making records, it's like a jigsaw puzzle. 861 00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:33,860 There's always that thing of 862 00:49:33,860 --> 00:49:36,820 not quite knowing what's going to come up next. 863 00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:44,060 When it all locks into position, it is quite an incredible sensation 864 00:49:44,060 --> 00:49:50,020 and everybody that's involved in doing that when it's happening 865 00:49:50,020 --> 00:49:54,900 knows that for a moment you're in a special place, a special time 866 00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:57,500 and, you know, you feel... 867 00:49:57,500 --> 00:50:00,700 actually where you feel very privileged to actually be there. 868 00:50:03,940 --> 00:50:06,980 Every great song is born of conversation. 869 00:50:08,620 --> 00:50:13,500 It really takes the two of them to create that synergy and that energy. 870 00:50:14,980 --> 00:50:17,300 I mean, they're the perfect yin and yang. 871 00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:21,220 Mick is the guy that brings it. Keith is the guy that holds it down. 872 00:50:22,580 --> 00:50:25,700 That rhythm is undeniable. 873 00:50:28,420 --> 00:50:30,900 I mean, he's the guy that took Chuck Berry 874 00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:33,460 and took Johnnie Johnson's whole thing 875 00:50:33,460 --> 00:50:36,060 and brought it to a rock guitar and an open tuning. 876 00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:41,220 You can write great songs with people 877 00:50:41,220 --> 00:50:45,980 but when there is a dynamic there that's bigger than the two of you, 878 00:50:45,980 --> 00:50:48,100 that's where the great stuff lives. 879 00:50:50,260 --> 00:50:52,780 It's the kind of a band 880 00:50:52,780 --> 00:50:56,620 that was built on "we", not "me". 881 00:50:56,620 --> 00:51:03,140 It took the chemistry of all of them to make it work. 882 00:51:04,220 --> 00:51:09,060 You can't say, "Oh, if I wrote Angie, it's like, listen to this." 883 00:51:09,060 --> 00:51:12,260 And Keith's like, "That's a load of shit, I want to write blues." 884 00:51:12,260 --> 00:51:14,140 No, it's the other way around. 885 00:51:14,140 --> 00:51:17,060 It's Keith saying, "Listen to this melody." 886 00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:20,540 And I'm going... I could say, 887 00:51:20,540 --> 00:51:23,900 "That's not the blues. That's...that's like... 888 00:51:23,900 --> 00:51:26,460 "that's bordering saccharine ballads, you know." 889 00:51:26,460 --> 00:51:29,580 But I didn't say that, of course, it's a very beautiful song. 890 00:51:29,580 --> 00:51:31,140 So, what I'm trying to say is 891 00:51:31,140 --> 00:51:33,660 that The Rolling Stones are many, many things. 892 00:51:33,660 --> 00:51:36,660 And one of the good things about The Rolling Stones is that 893 00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:39,020 they embrace a lot of kinds of music. 894 00:51:39,020 --> 00:51:42,140 Yes, they're a blues band. Yes, they're a rock band. 895 00:51:42,140 --> 00:51:44,100 Yes, they did things like Paint It Black. 896 00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:46,620 Yes, they did like classic rock. 897 00:51:46,620 --> 00:51:48,340 Yes, they did dance songs. 898 00:51:48,340 --> 00:51:50,420 You have to push innovation a bit sometimes 899 00:51:50,420 --> 00:51:53,500 because people get older, they just want to stick in one thing. 900 00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:59,980 I think with Mick and Keith over the years, 901 00:51:59,980 --> 00:52:01,740 they have an acceptance, you know, 902 00:52:01,740 --> 00:52:03,300 a total respect for each other 903 00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:05,860 in terms of what they both bring to the band. 904 00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:09,980 And I think it's valid, actually, to think that 905 00:52:09,980 --> 00:52:13,620 Mick has always been the one driving them forward. 906 00:52:13,620 --> 00:52:16,540 It's always been Keith that's been aware of 907 00:52:16,540 --> 00:52:18,500 the credibility of the music they're making 908 00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:22,540 to make sure it continues to be rooted. 909 00:52:24,220 --> 00:52:27,540 Keith had said, "Listen, we are still this blues band, 910 00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:32,340 "irrespective of the pyrotechnics and 200,000 people in the audience. 911 00:52:32,340 --> 00:52:37,380 "We're still that band that played The Marquee in 1962 to 100 people." 912 00:52:38,860 --> 00:52:40,660 That is Keith looking back 913 00:52:40,660 --> 00:52:44,260 and holding on to that rare musical depth 914 00:52:44,260 --> 00:52:46,100 and Mick propelling the band 915 00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:48,660 into whatever the future may bring for them. 916 00:52:50,780 --> 00:52:53,780 CROWD SINGING 917 00:52:55,020 --> 00:52:58,940 If it comes out of The Rolling Stones, it's The Rolling Stones. 918 00:52:58,940 --> 00:53:01,660 Now and again, Mick and I have come up with a song... 919 00:53:01,660 --> 00:53:03,020 HE LAUGHS 920 00:53:03,020 --> 00:53:05,140 ..looked at each other and gone, 921 00:53:05,140 --> 00:53:08,620 "No, not The Stones, no, no!" 922 00:53:08,620 --> 00:53:12,020 # Please allow me to introduce myself 923 00:53:12,020 --> 00:53:14,020 # I'm a man of wealth and taste... # 924 00:53:14,020 --> 00:53:16,140 There are few songwriting partnerships 925 00:53:16,140 --> 00:53:18,740 to match Jagger and Richards. 926 00:53:18,740 --> 00:53:21,660 And despite their fair share of disagreements, 927 00:53:21,660 --> 00:53:26,340 their relationship has endured against all the odds. 928 00:53:26,340 --> 00:53:29,740 # And I was 'round when Jesus Christ 929 00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:33,340 # Had his moment of doubt and pain... # 930 00:53:35,060 --> 00:53:41,740 You had this image of those two guys being the first real example 931 00:53:41,740 --> 00:53:45,940 of a lead singer/lead guitar player relationship. 932 00:53:45,940 --> 00:53:48,460 # Pleased to meet you 933 00:53:48,460 --> 00:53:51,500 # Hope you guess my name 934 00:53:53,860 --> 00:53:59,980 # But what's confusing you Is just the nature of my game 935 00:54:03,860 --> 00:54:06,540 # Stuck around St Petersburg... # 936 00:54:06,540 --> 00:54:08,180 Mick wants to be the leader. 937 00:54:08,180 --> 00:54:09,860 He's the leader of the pack. 938 00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:13,860 Keith doesn't give a fuck about being a leader 939 00:54:13,860 --> 00:54:15,700 but he thinks he really is. 940 00:54:17,020 --> 00:54:18,940 They're completely different. 941 00:54:18,940 --> 00:54:20,500 Mick wants to try new things. 942 00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:24,420 He is very much a part of whatever's going on. 943 00:54:24,420 --> 00:54:27,180 Keith is technophobic. 944 00:54:27,180 --> 00:54:32,180 That is one of the things that still makes the edge between them. 945 00:54:32,180 --> 00:54:34,500 We all have separate lives, separate identities, 946 00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:37,340 and musically, they're yin and yang. 947 00:54:39,220 --> 00:54:41,260 They're joined at the hip. 948 00:54:41,260 --> 00:54:42,500 Has there been times when the 949 00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:43,900 disagreements have flared up? 950 00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:45,220 Of course there has. 951 00:54:45,220 --> 00:54:48,260 But I think you take a deep breath, you look at each other and say, 952 00:54:48,260 --> 00:54:50,620 "Wait a minute. Last time I checked, 953 00:54:50,620 --> 00:54:53,500 "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts." 954 00:54:58,980 --> 00:55:00,860 Even at times when Mick and Keith 955 00:55:00,860 --> 00:55:03,620 weren't at their best relationship-wise, 956 00:55:03,620 --> 00:55:06,580 I would dare you to get between them. 957 00:55:06,580 --> 00:55:10,060 There's a bond there that can't be broken. 958 00:55:10,060 --> 00:55:13,220 To do it for this long, Mick and I both look at each other... 959 00:55:13,220 --> 00:55:14,620 HE CHUCKLES 960 00:55:14,620 --> 00:55:17,700 We must be doing something right! I don't know what it is. 961 00:55:19,180 --> 00:55:24,500 The idea of turning people on for 60 years is like, whoa! 962 00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:26,140 HE LAUGHS 963 00:55:26,140 --> 00:55:28,580 But the thing is relentless. 964 00:55:28,580 --> 00:55:31,780 It's like being a juggernaut. 965 00:55:31,780 --> 00:55:33,860 # Guess my name... # 966 00:55:38,820 --> 00:55:43,060 You see them walk to the stage as older guys, 967 00:55:43,060 --> 00:55:44,540 and they climb the stairs, 968 00:55:44,540 --> 00:55:46,740 and each stair, 969 00:55:46,740 --> 00:55:49,540 another piece of energy comes up. 970 00:55:51,260 --> 00:55:52,580 And then, they go out. 971 00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:55,380 It's like a shot of lightning. 972 00:55:55,380 --> 00:55:57,860 # Just call me Lucifer... # 973 00:55:57,860 --> 00:55:59,580 It's like going to Never Never Land. 974 00:55:59,580 --> 00:56:02,820 # I'm in need of some restraint 975 00:56:02,820 --> 00:56:05,380 # So if you meet me 976 00:56:05,380 --> 00:56:07,300 # Have some courtesy 977 00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:10,940 # Sympathy and some taste... # 978 00:56:12,220 --> 00:56:14,140 The music comes first. 979 00:56:14,140 --> 00:56:17,380 Writing, recording, performing music - 980 00:56:17,380 --> 00:56:19,900 that's where they're at. 981 00:56:19,900 --> 00:56:25,140 When they finally step off the stage for the last time, 982 00:56:25,140 --> 00:56:30,020 we will all know that we shall never see anything like that ever again. 983 00:56:30,020 --> 00:56:32,340 # Yes... 984 00:56:32,340 --> 00:56:37,580 # What's confusing you Is just the nature of my game 985 00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:40,140 # Yes... # 986 00:56:41,660 --> 00:56:43,180 CROWD NOISE 987 00:56:43,180 --> 00:56:44,740 Come on! 988 00:56:44,740 --> 00:56:46,020 Yeah! 989 00:56:46,020 --> 00:56:48,940 MUSIC CONTINUES, CROWD CHEERING 990 00:57:05,460 --> 00:57:08,620 I mean, God knows what I'd have been like if I didn't do this - 991 00:57:08,620 --> 00:57:10,140 my wildest nightmare. 992 00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:15,180 Really, all you wanted to do was play music, 993 00:57:15,180 --> 00:57:18,940 trying to get it better, trying to get the band tighter. 994 00:57:18,940 --> 00:57:21,620 MUSIC ENDS, CROWD ROARS 995 00:57:26,860 --> 00:57:29,060 Not many people get a chance to do this 996 00:57:29,060 --> 00:57:32,300 with thousands of people, you know, as a job. 997 00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:34,420 CROWD CHEERS 998 00:57:35,860 --> 00:57:40,660 CROWD CHANTS: Ole, ole, ole, ole! 999 00:57:44,860 --> 00:57:47,860 You know, when you're exchanging that much appreciation 1000 00:57:47,860 --> 00:57:52,340 to each other, it is profoundly touching. 1001 00:57:55,980 --> 00:57:58,180 Music is a resilient thing. 1002 00:57:58,180 --> 00:58:00,100 And sometimes I think, 1003 00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:03,260 God, is it the only thing we've got that we can trust? 1004 00:58:03,260 --> 00:58:04,500 HE CHUCKLES 1005 00:58:06,140 --> 00:58:10,060 CROWD CONTINUES TO ROAR, WHISTLING 1006 00:58:13,020 --> 00:58:16,820 I gave up many years ago trying to analyse this bunch 1007 00:58:16,820 --> 00:58:19,220 and why it works and how it works. 1008 00:58:22,220 --> 00:58:25,780 I've found the best remedy is to put them all together in a room 1009 00:58:25,780 --> 00:58:29,020 and say, "It goes like this - one, two, three, four," 1010 00:58:29,020 --> 00:58:31,180 and all the problems go away. 1011 00:58:31,180 --> 00:58:34,180 CROWD CONTINUES CHEERING 80199

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