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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,883 --> 00:00:18,593 [Narrator] An Arizona woman raises eyebrows 2 00:00:18,619 --> 00:00:22,519 by flirting with a cop sent to investigate her for murder. 3 00:00:25,759 --> 00:00:27,529 [Laughs] 4 00:00:27,561 --> 00:00:30,231 [Narrator] But things take a turn for the weird, 5 00:00:30,264 --> 00:00:32,074 when he starts flirting back. 6 00:00:34,735 --> 00:00:37,705 [Narrator] And offers to help her cover up her crime. 7 00:00:42,643 --> 00:00:45,053 [Narrator] Just whose side is this cop on? 8 00:00:47,381 --> 00:00:50,621 Seemed like detective Hopkins might be, like, crossing the line. 9 00:00:50,651 --> 00:00:53,491 [Narrator] And will he help a killer strike again? 10 00:00:59,826 --> 00:01:03,296 [Policeman 1] Detective sergeant korowski, working for another case. 11 00:01:03,330 --> 00:01:07,570 [Narrator] Undercover work is some of the riskiest in law enforcement. 12 00:01:07,601 --> 00:01:10,941 [Policeman 2] Okay, she’s out of the car. Okay, good deal, good deal, good deal. 13 00:01:10,971 --> 00:01:12,141 [Narrator] One wrong move... 14 00:01:12,172 --> 00:01:13,642 [Siren blaring] 15 00:01:13,674 --> 00:01:15,044 [Narrator] ...Can cost a life. 16 00:01:15,075 --> 00:01:17,005 [Policeman] Police, don’t move! 17 00:01:18,412 --> 00:01:20,382 [Narrator] In rare situations, 18 00:01:20,414 --> 00:01:24,784 everyday people go undercover in search of the truth. 19 00:01:24,818 --> 00:01:27,618 They’re willing to risk it all, 20 00:01:27,654 --> 00:01:31,424 even taking down friends and family. 21 00:01:31,458 --> 00:01:34,788 This isn’t the movies. I had to actually do this. 22 00:01:34,828 --> 00:01:38,698 [Narrator] Doing the right thing has never been so dangerous. 23 00:01:52,012 --> 00:01:54,852 [Diane] Bothell is a rather large suburban city 24 00:01:54,881 --> 00:01:57,121 and it’s split between king county 25 00:01:57,150 --> 00:01:58,490 and snohomish county. 26 00:01:59,686 --> 00:02:02,286 King county is Seattle-based. 27 00:02:02,322 --> 00:02:06,792 Snohomish county kicks in, oh, maybe 15 minutes up the freeway. 28 00:02:08,228 --> 00:02:10,358 [Kim] It’s a much smaller town. 29 00:02:10,397 --> 00:02:14,667 Not quite a farm town, but definitely a smaller town than something like Seattle. 30 00:02:16,169 --> 00:02:17,599 [Diane] Lots of suburbs, 31 00:02:17,638 --> 00:02:20,168 but then when you get to the north and the east, 32 00:02:20,207 --> 00:02:22,477 there’s farmland and crops 33 00:02:22,509 --> 00:02:24,379 and they hit the mountains. 34 00:02:24,411 --> 00:02:26,151 It’s a rather lovely place, really. 35 00:02:27,414 --> 00:02:29,184 You get the best of both worlds. 36 00:02:31,051 --> 00:02:32,851 [Narrator] In the late 1990s, 37 00:02:32,886 --> 00:02:36,316 life in bothell is changing fast, 38 00:02:36,356 --> 00:02:38,486 the old logging mills and farms 39 00:02:38,525 --> 00:02:41,855 being replaced by high-tech and computer companies. 40 00:02:43,864 --> 00:02:47,704 [Bess] In the ’90s, it would have been home to some people doing fairly well, 41 00:02:47,734 --> 00:02:52,544 because of its proximity to redmond and the tech hubs of Microsoft and all of that. 42 00:02:52,572 --> 00:02:55,612 Although, there also would have been some more blue-collar folks as well. 43 00:02:57,277 --> 00:03:00,847 [Narrator] Bothell’s one claim to fame is the town’s Christmas tree. 44 00:03:02,349 --> 00:03:04,079 At 110 feet, 45 00:03:04,117 --> 00:03:09,017 life magazine proclaims it to be the tallest living Christmas tree in the country. 46 00:03:10,357 --> 00:03:11,868 [Carol] It’s right in downtown bothell. 47 00:03:11,892 --> 00:03:13,169 I used to look at that and think, 48 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:15,271 "how did they get up there and put the lights up in there?" 49 00:03:15,295 --> 00:03:19,895 But they decorated it every year and it was something to always see. 50 00:03:19,933 --> 00:03:23,103 You know, it’s a part of the history. 51 00:03:23,136 --> 00:03:26,066 Bothell still felt like this, you know, quaint community. 52 00:03:27,708 --> 00:03:31,438 [Diane] We don’t get a lot of dramatic crime out here in the burbs. 53 00:03:31,478 --> 00:03:34,008 We don’t get a lot of dramatic murders. 54 00:03:34,047 --> 00:03:39,087 It’s an unusual thing, it’s a startling thing when some big crime happens. 55 00:03:39,119 --> 00:03:42,789 We hadn’t had a homicide since I couldn’t remember 56 00:03:42,823 --> 00:03:47,533 and I had been living in the community since 1979. 57 00:03:47,561 --> 00:03:52,701 [Narrator] But that all changes on the morning of February 5th, 1997, 58 00:03:52,733 --> 00:03:56,903 when local cellular phone engineer, Steve ver woert, is late for work. 59 00:03:57,771 --> 00:04:00,411 [Bess] It’s his 44th birthday 60 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,980 and he does not show up to work at uscellular, 61 00:04:03,009 --> 00:04:05,449 which is suspicious to his fellow co-workers 62 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:07,849 because he’s usually a pretty dependable guy. 63 00:04:09,249 --> 00:04:11,879 [Kim] Steve’s administrative assistant, Deborah Warren, 64 00:04:11,918 --> 00:04:16,718 noticed that he hadn’t come in on Wednesday morning like he usually does. 65 00:04:16,757 --> 00:04:20,257 So, when it got to be noon time and he still hadn’t arrived, 66 00:04:20,293 --> 00:04:22,903 the administrative assistant began to wonder what was going on 67 00:04:22,929 --> 00:04:25,099 and whether he was okay. 68 00:04:25,132 --> 00:04:28,842 She decided to stop by the trailer park where Steve was living at the time. 69 00:04:30,504 --> 00:04:33,544 And when she walked up to the door of the trailer, 70 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:38,015 she noticed what she thought looked like blood on the door. 71 00:04:41,148 --> 00:04:43,448 She immediately went back to her car, 72 00:04:43,483 --> 00:04:46,523 called her office first and then called 911. 73 00:04:48,221 --> 00:04:51,091 [Narrator] That’s when the police arrive and within moments, 74 00:04:51,124 --> 00:04:54,894 they find Steve, covered in blood, on the floor of his trailer. 75 00:04:56,396 --> 00:04:58,156 [Mike] You could see Steve laying there. 76 00:04:58,198 --> 00:05:03,098 There was a large amount of blood that had pooled around his body. 77 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:06,866 And then, when they checked to see if he may still be alive, 78 00:05:06,907 --> 00:05:08,977 they checked for a pulse, they didn’t get a pulse. 79 00:05:10,010 --> 00:05:11,580 There appeared to be a struggle. 80 00:05:12,412 --> 00:05:14,352 Some things were knocked over. 81 00:05:14,381 --> 00:05:17,821 It looked as though he had some defensive wounds 82 00:05:17,851 --> 00:05:20,351 and upon closer examination of his body, 83 00:05:20,387 --> 00:05:22,057 it looked like he had some injuries 84 00:05:22,088 --> 00:05:24,958 that were consistent of stabbing towards his neck. 85 00:05:24,991 --> 00:05:28,491 And then, on his neck itself, there was a severe laceration. 86 00:05:29,696 --> 00:05:34,066 It appeared as if the killer came in or killers came in 87 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:37,040 and there was a struggle, he was killed. 88 00:05:37,070 --> 00:05:39,740 Nothing else was taken or missing from the residence. 89 00:05:41,608 --> 00:05:43,038 His wallet was out on the carpet, 90 00:05:43,076 --> 00:05:45,236 with his credit cards all fanned out, 91 00:05:45,712 --> 00:05:48,412 which is unusual. 92 00:05:48,448 --> 00:05:51,178 [Narrator] Police find no fingerprints at the scene 93 00:05:51,218 --> 00:05:53,548 and send whatever evidence they can collect, 94 00:05:53,587 --> 00:05:55,717 back to the lab for testing. 95 00:05:55,755 --> 00:05:59,055 Nothing else in the residence looked to be disturbed. 96 00:05:59,092 --> 00:06:02,862 So, it looks initially that 97 00:06:02,896 --> 00:06:05,496 whoever... was focused on Steven 98 00:06:05,532 --> 00:06:07,932 and not so much on anything else in the house. 99 00:06:09,069 --> 00:06:11,099 The door wasn’t locked. 100 00:06:11,137 --> 00:06:13,267 There was no signs of forced entry. 101 00:06:14,808 --> 00:06:18,038 Because it’s possible that it’s somebody he knew, 102 00:06:18,078 --> 00:06:22,278 my assignment was to do victimology on Steve 103 00:06:22,315 --> 00:06:27,585 and to start interviewing friends, co-workers and family as well, 104 00:06:27,621 --> 00:06:32,231 and everything we can gather, all information what we know about Steve. 105 00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:35,430 When the investigators start asking around, 106 00:06:35,462 --> 00:06:37,902 they discover that Steve is really well liked. 107 00:06:37,931 --> 00:06:40,071 He’s known as a sweet, smart guy. 108 00:06:40,100 --> 00:06:43,100 He does not have obvious enemies. 109 00:06:43,136 --> 00:06:45,906 He came from a very church-going family in Iowa. 110 00:06:45,939 --> 00:06:48,709 Religion seems to have been important for them. 111 00:06:48,742 --> 00:06:51,912 Some people said he gave away a lot of money to church-going groups 112 00:06:51,945 --> 00:06:54,115 and he was, by all accounts, pretty smart. 113 00:06:54,147 --> 00:06:56,147 He was actually hired to come up here to bothell 114 00:06:56,182 --> 00:07:02,292 to establish a new cellular telephone technology system for uscellular. 115 00:07:02,322 --> 00:07:04,292 [Narrator] Although Steve lives in bothell, 116 00:07:04,324 --> 00:07:07,094 most of his family is down in Arizona, 117 00:07:07,127 --> 00:07:11,797 including his parents, two ex-wives and son from his first marriage. 118 00:07:12,599 --> 00:07:15,769 Steven ver woert was a divorcee. 119 00:07:15,802 --> 00:07:17,302 He’d been married a couple times. 120 00:07:17,337 --> 00:07:20,267 He had a young child, about 12-years-old. 121 00:07:20,307 --> 00:07:26,677 He was working up here, while his family and his son were down in Arizona. 122 00:07:26,713 --> 00:07:28,583 Steve had been here, in the area, 123 00:07:28,615 --> 00:07:30,055 probably four or five years. 124 00:07:31,051 --> 00:07:34,451 He was very social, cared a lot about people 125 00:07:34,487 --> 00:07:37,757 and he was very drawn to helping others, 126 00:07:37,791 --> 00:07:41,631 and, in particular, he liked to help his co-workers as well, 127 00:07:41,661 --> 00:07:45,771 but he liked to go out and he liked to have fun, 128 00:07:45,799 --> 00:07:49,269 and part of that having fun is he liked to frequent taverns and bars. 129 00:07:49,302 --> 00:07:53,272 He loved to sing karaoke and liked to drink. 130 00:07:53,306 --> 00:07:54,736 This was a real whodunit. 131 00:07:56,743 --> 00:08:00,313 [Carol] It doesn’t fit in with a friendly, safe community 132 00:08:00,347 --> 00:08:02,617 and the first thing you want to know is are we safe, 133 00:08:02,649 --> 00:08:06,149 which I remember thinking, "is this guy coming back for us?" 134 00:08:08,521 --> 00:08:09,861 I was very scared. 135 00:08:11,591 --> 00:08:16,531 I first heard about this murder of Steve ver woert right after it happened. 136 00:08:16,563 --> 00:08:19,673 There weren’t very many murders in snohomish county during this time. 137 00:08:21,267 --> 00:08:23,797 His trailer did show some signs of struggle, 138 00:08:23,837 --> 00:08:27,167 but there was no signs of forced entry. 139 00:08:27,207 --> 00:08:31,007 We were thinking it was likely that either someone entered without his permission 140 00:08:31,044 --> 00:08:32,514 because he left his door unlocked, 141 00:08:34,247 --> 00:08:38,047 or, more likely, someone he had let in or known 142 00:08:38,084 --> 00:08:41,354 came into his trailer with his permission and ended up murdering him. 143 00:08:43,223 --> 00:08:45,693 [Narrator] Despite the horrific struggle, 144 00:08:45,725 --> 00:08:52,225 there is no physical evidence to indicate who the killer or killers might be. 145 00:08:52,265 --> 00:08:55,095 [Stemler] We’re always looking to get our hands on the murder weapon 146 00:08:55,135 --> 00:08:57,405 for whatever evidence that can provide. 147 00:08:57,437 --> 00:08:59,767 The weapon was never recovered in this case 148 00:08:59,806 --> 00:09:03,506 and detectives spent a great deal of time looking for it, 149 00:09:03,543 --> 00:09:05,413 but it was just never recovered. 150 00:09:05,445 --> 00:09:09,425 There’s no obvious DNA evidence or fingerprints 151 00:09:09,449 --> 00:09:11,079 tying anyone to the crime. 152 00:09:12,052 --> 00:09:15,252 Here we had a body of Steven ver woert, 153 00:09:15,288 --> 00:09:18,458 who had been left there and we had no idea who had done it. 154 00:09:21,394 --> 00:09:24,034 [Narrator] With no suspects and no motive, 155 00:09:24,064 --> 00:09:26,634 police in bothell expand their investigation 156 00:09:26,666 --> 00:09:28,966 to where Steve had previously lived, 157 00:09:29,769 --> 00:09:31,969 mesa, Arizona. 158 00:09:32,005 --> 00:09:35,145 That’s when detective ed Hopkins enters the picture. 159 00:09:36,109 --> 00:09:38,309 Ed Hopkins was 33 at the time, 160 00:09:38,344 --> 00:09:40,884 working for the bothell police department 161 00:09:40,914 --> 00:09:45,824 and he was apparently ruggedly handsome, looking like Erik estrada, 162 00:09:45,852 --> 00:09:47,522 and he was apparently charming. 163 00:09:48,988 --> 00:09:51,158 [Stemler] Detective Hopkins went to Arizona 164 00:09:51,191 --> 00:09:54,731 and he was assigned to work with a detective in mesa, Arizona, 165 00:09:54,761 --> 00:09:56,931 by the name of Tom denning. 166 00:09:56,963 --> 00:09:59,333 [Bess] Ed Hopkins goes to Arizona 167 00:09:59,365 --> 00:10:03,095 to start asking more questions and interviewing steve’s family. 168 00:10:03,136 --> 00:10:06,666 And they’re all sitting around in a room, 169 00:10:06,706 --> 00:10:09,006 trying to think about who might want Steve dead 170 00:10:09,042 --> 00:10:11,342 or who would benefit from his death? 171 00:10:11,377 --> 00:10:15,077 And that’s when, I believe, it was steve’s brother who says, 172 00:10:15,115 --> 00:10:18,455 "I think we might be overlooking the obvious here. 173 00:10:18,485 --> 00:10:21,725 What about his ex-wife, Marty?" 174 00:10:30,797 --> 00:10:33,367 [Narrator] Steven ver woert had divorced Marty Malone 175 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:35,669 a few years prior to his murder. 176 00:10:35,702 --> 00:10:38,002 But the couple remained on friendly terms 177 00:10:38,037 --> 00:10:40,507 and still stayed in touch with one another. 178 00:10:40,540 --> 00:10:42,380 [Stemler] Even after the divorce, 179 00:10:42,408 --> 00:10:45,708 Marty had told detectives that Steve had just come to visit her 180 00:10:45,745 --> 00:10:48,245 the Christmas and Thanksgiving beforehand. 181 00:10:48,281 --> 00:10:50,281 So, they were still having contact, still meeting. 182 00:10:52,752 --> 00:10:56,492 Marty Malone was a middle-aged female who had been married a couple of times. 183 00:10:59,826 --> 00:11:04,196 [Stemler] When ed Hopkins and Tom denning went to Marty malone’s house, 184 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:07,300 they knock on the door. Eventually, Marty comes to the door... 185 00:11:09,769 --> 00:11:11,869 [Stemler] ...And she indicates, 186 00:11:11,905 --> 00:11:15,275 "oh, you’re from bothell pd. I only know one person, 187 00:11:15,308 --> 00:11:18,238 my ex-husband, Steve ver woert." 188 00:11:53,012 --> 00:11:54,952 She invited them in. 189 00:11:54,981 --> 00:11:57,251 They talked to her about what had happened, 190 00:11:57,283 --> 00:11:59,493 that he had been murdered. 191 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:02,089 She didn’t ask any questions, show any emotion. 192 00:12:02,121 --> 00:12:04,261 She said, "it hadn’t sunk in yet." 193 00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:07,490 [Narrator] Marty’s lack of emotions is odd, 194 00:12:07,527 --> 00:12:10,857 but what she does next is even more unusual. 195 00:12:10,897 --> 00:12:13,667 [Stemler] Then she started looking for paperwork, like his will 196 00:12:13,700 --> 00:12:16,440 and, in fact, the will that she showed to the detectives, 197 00:12:16,469 --> 00:12:21,009 left everything to her, except for three single, one-dollar gifts, 198 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,710 one to his son and two other people. 199 00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:28,053 [Narrator] Hearing about the will immediately gets the detective’s attention. 200 00:12:28,081 --> 00:12:33,021 They also question why Marty has her ex-husband’s will at her fingertips? 201 00:12:33,052 --> 00:12:35,452 After some initial conversation at her house, 202 00:12:35,488 --> 00:12:36,718 the detectives asked Marty 203 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:38,486 to come to the police department 204 00:12:38,524 --> 00:12:39,564 later that night. 205 00:12:39,592 --> 00:12:41,392 Marty said she was going to have a drink 206 00:12:41,427 --> 00:12:44,527 and detective denning told her, "it’s probably a bad idea to have a drink 207 00:12:44,564 --> 00:12:46,574 right before you drive to the police department." 208 00:12:46,599 --> 00:12:49,339 So, she said she would jump in the shower and meet them shortly. 209 00:12:50,837 --> 00:12:54,337 Marty described her relationship with Steve as very good. 210 00:12:54,374 --> 00:12:55,884 She had just spoken to him 211 00:12:55,908 --> 00:12:57,878 a couple days before the murder. 212 00:12:57,910 --> 00:12:59,580 Was he seeing anybody at the time? 213 00:12:59,612 --> 00:13:01,912 - That you are aware of? - Um... 214 00:13:03,683 --> 00:13:08,523 He was going with a gal named Kathy for a while, but that didn’t work out. 215 00:13:08,554 --> 00:13:11,064 And I don’t mean going with, I think they went to dinner twice. 216 00:13:11,090 --> 00:13:12,390 I mean it wasn’t a... 217 00:13:12,892 --> 00:13:14,062 Um... 218 00:13:14,093 --> 00:13:17,433 Jennifer. He and Jennifer pal around a lot together. 219 00:13:18,865 --> 00:13:21,005 Uh, he took Jennifer all over Seattle, 220 00:13:21,034 --> 00:13:22,604 looking for an apartment. 221 00:13:22,635 --> 00:13:24,995 One thing guaranteed, 222 00:13:25,038 --> 00:13:26,608 for sure, 223 00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:30,209 he always had at least $400 cash on him. 224 00:13:31,377 --> 00:13:33,507 - Okay. - Always. 225 00:13:33,546 --> 00:13:35,446 [Detective] Did he say anything, um, 226 00:13:35,481 --> 00:13:36,481 recently 227 00:13:37,750 --> 00:13:40,390 about, um... 228 00:13:40,420 --> 00:13:41,920 Making friends with anybody, 229 00:13:41,954 --> 00:13:44,024 um, helping out a transient? 230 00:13:44,057 --> 00:13:47,187 Uh, any, I understand he’s a pretty caring guy. 231 00:13:47,226 --> 00:13:50,126 I understand he would go to great lengths and do anything for anybody. 232 00:13:50,163 --> 00:13:52,673 He’s one of the few that still picks up hitchhikers. 233 00:13:53,333 --> 00:13:54,703 [Detective] Okay. 234 00:13:54,734 --> 00:13:56,304 [Narrator] Marty says when they met, 235 00:13:56,336 --> 00:13:59,536 she and Steven fell for each other immediately. 236 00:13:59,572 --> 00:14:00,572 Within... 237 00:14:02,008 --> 00:14:04,108 Three weeks, he was living with me. 238 00:14:04,143 --> 00:14:07,483 - Okay. - It was happy. 239 00:14:07,513 --> 00:14:09,983 [Bess] They met at a karaoke night in 1992. 240 00:14:10,016 --> 00:14:11,646 It seemed like they had a lot in common. 241 00:14:11,684 --> 00:14:13,454 They both liked the same music, 242 00:14:13,486 --> 00:14:16,316 they were both from Iowa and had moved to Arizona. 243 00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:19,087 They do end up getting married 244 00:14:19,125 --> 00:14:21,395 and I think it’s June of 1993, 245 00:14:21,427 --> 00:14:23,797 but it was actually a sham wedding, 246 00:14:23,830 --> 00:14:27,770 because steve’s divorce was not final yet 247 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,240 and in the end, he actually did not even have his signature 248 00:14:31,270 --> 00:14:32,640 on the marriage license. 249 00:14:32,672 --> 00:14:34,172 He was intending to sign it, 250 00:14:34,207 --> 00:14:35,837 from... from what we know, 251 00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:38,435 but he never did actually sign it. 252 00:14:38,478 --> 00:14:39,978 The wedding was never legally valid. 253 00:14:41,047 --> 00:14:42,507 Things quickly soured. 254 00:14:42,548 --> 00:14:46,688 I don’t think there was really a long period of bliss in this marriage. 255 00:14:46,719 --> 00:14:51,589 There seems to have been, um, tension, especially around steve’s son, Brett. 256 00:14:51,624 --> 00:14:53,035 He really loved spending time with his kid 257 00:14:53,059 --> 00:14:55,929 and she was very jealous of that time and attention. 258 00:14:55,962 --> 00:14:59,372 One of the comments that Marty had talked about with the detectives 259 00:14:59,399 --> 00:15:01,969 was that steve’s parents kind of interfered 260 00:15:02,001 --> 00:15:04,441 because they didn’t like her very well 261 00:15:04,470 --> 00:15:05,770 and, in fact, it turns out 262 00:15:05,805 --> 00:15:09,885 a lot of steve’s friends didn’t really like her very well at all. 263 00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:14,209 [Bess] His family and even some of his friends don’t really approve of Marty, 264 00:15:14,247 --> 00:15:15,677 because of her boisterousness 265 00:15:15,715 --> 00:15:19,295 and she kind of talked like a sailor. She’s sort of dominating. 266 00:15:19,318 --> 00:15:20,998 She didn’t make a great impression on them. 267 00:15:21,254 --> 00:15:24,164 And it became very tumultuous. 268 00:15:24,190 --> 00:15:27,890 Then they did get divorced about a year after that. 269 00:15:27,927 --> 00:15:29,697 She described being pretty friendly with him, 270 00:15:29,729 --> 00:15:31,729 even though they were divorced. 271 00:15:31,764 --> 00:15:35,704 [Narrator] When the detectives ask Marty where she was when Steven was killed, 272 00:15:35,735 --> 00:15:38,475 she tells them she was in Las Vegas. 273 00:15:38,504 --> 00:15:41,344 However, when the detective asked about credit card receipts, 274 00:15:41,374 --> 00:15:45,384 she had said that she used a friend’s credit card for this trip 275 00:15:45,411 --> 00:15:47,651 and that she had stopped for gas. 276 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,320 They were trying to find out where she stayed in Las Vegas. 277 00:15:50,349 --> 00:15:52,349 She said she had picked up a couple of guys 278 00:15:52,385 --> 00:15:53,925 and entertained them for the evening, 279 00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:57,093 so she didn’t have to pay for a room. 280 00:15:57,123 --> 00:15:59,435 During the whole time that they’re interviewing her and questioning her, 281 00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:02,489 they’re trying to establish some kind of physical link 282 00:16:02,528 --> 00:16:04,598 between her and the crime scene. 283 00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:07,930 They ideally want DNA evidence that would link her to the crime. 284 00:16:09,202 --> 00:16:12,712 [Narrator] So, the detectives take Marty to lunch. 285 00:16:12,738 --> 00:16:15,668 [Bess] There’s this long lunch in scottsdale. 286 00:16:15,708 --> 00:16:17,508 Every time she goes to the bathroom, 287 00:16:17,543 --> 00:16:20,253 they are taking her cigarette butts out of the ash tray, 288 00:16:20,279 --> 00:16:22,549 because they’re hoping to get DNA evidence from that, 289 00:16:22,582 --> 00:16:24,752 that would link her to steve’s trailer. 290 00:16:26,652 --> 00:16:28,452 But they’re not successful. 291 00:16:28,488 --> 00:16:33,188 They’re not able to link her back to the crime scene in any physical way. 292 00:16:33,226 --> 00:16:36,256 [Narrator] Still, Marty does little to convince the detectives 293 00:16:36,295 --> 00:16:39,495 that she is not involved in her ex-husband’s death. 294 00:16:40,733 --> 00:16:43,573 Marty brought up that she still had life insurance. 295 00:16:43,603 --> 00:16:44,943 She was the beneficiary 296 00:16:44,971 --> 00:16:49,741 of steve’s life insurance policy for $150,000. 297 00:16:49,775 --> 00:16:52,945 [Narrator] Police know that marty’s story is barely holding up 298 00:16:52,979 --> 00:16:56,049 and deserves more investigation. 299 00:16:56,082 --> 00:16:59,922 But ed Hopkins has another equally bizarre observation. 300 00:16:59,952 --> 00:17:02,622 He’s sure that Marty is flirting with him. 301 00:17:03,689 --> 00:17:05,659 [Stemler] The conversation 302 00:17:05,691 --> 00:17:09,631 was very flirtatious on marty’s part towards ed Hopkins. 303 00:17:12,164 --> 00:17:15,074 [Narrator] Detective Hopkins returns to bothell 304 00:17:15,101 --> 00:17:18,301 and Marty continues to contact him there. 305 00:17:18,337 --> 00:17:19,937 [Bess] She calls him 306 00:17:19,972 --> 00:17:23,142 and starts volunteering extra information about the case. 307 00:17:23,175 --> 00:17:28,075 She is acting almost like she is a member of the investigation team, 308 00:17:28,114 --> 00:17:31,324 rather than a potential suspect 309 00:17:31,350 --> 00:17:35,920 and she is in constant communication with Hopkins 310 00:17:35,955 --> 00:17:38,565 who is very aware of the fact that she’s attracted to him. 311 00:17:40,226 --> 00:17:42,456 [Narrator] So, ed returns to mesa 312 00:17:42,495 --> 00:17:44,035 and to Marty. 313 00:17:44,063 --> 00:17:46,173 [Kim] Marty drives a Nissan pathfinder 314 00:17:46,198 --> 00:17:48,798 and she coincidentally had had it in for service 315 00:17:48,834 --> 00:17:50,644 shortly before Steve was murdered. 316 00:17:50,670 --> 00:17:52,500 What detectives later would find out 317 00:17:52,538 --> 00:17:56,138 is that her vehicle had excess mileage on it, 318 00:17:56,175 --> 00:18:00,045 because she had taken it in for another service about a month later, 319 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:01,649 after the murder had taken place 320 00:18:01,681 --> 00:18:04,321 and they could see the difference in mileage. 321 00:18:04,350 --> 00:18:08,290 Now, she claimed that she had taken a road trip to Las Vegas or something, 322 00:18:08,321 --> 00:18:12,091 but there just wasn’t, you know, anything to say that that was accurate. 323 00:18:13,159 --> 00:18:15,689 Didn’t add up. There was 3,100 miles 324 00:18:15,728 --> 00:18:17,698 difference in a very short period of time 325 00:18:17,730 --> 00:18:19,800 and that’s consistent with driving up to bothell, 326 00:18:19,832 --> 00:18:23,502 not consistent with driving to Las Vegas and back. 327 00:18:23,536 --> 00:18:26,806 Detectives were starting to gather all these little pieces together. 328 00:18:26,839 --> 00:18:29,069 Inconsistent statements by Marty, 329 00:18:29,108 --> 00:18:30,878 the mileage on the vehicle, 330 00:18:30,910 --> 00:18:33,480 other discrepancies in what Marty was telling them, 331 00:18:33,512 --> 00:18:37,382 but none of that added up to enough for to make an arrest, 332 00:18:37,416 --> 00:18:40,316 or even to pursue search warrants for other things. 333 00:18:40,353 --> 00:18:44,723 They needed something solid and tangible that they could work with. 334 00:18:44,757 --> 00:18:48,057 [Kim] Detective denning in mesa, has his suspicions about Marty 335 00:18:48,094 --> 00:18:49,934 and he decides to put her under surveillance. 336 00:18:51,130 --> 00:18:53,230 And he’s recording all of her conversations, 337 00:18:53,265 --> 00:18:55,195 including the ones that she is having 338 00:18:55,234 --> 00:18:57,774 with detective Hopkins from bothell. 339 00:19:02,808 --> 00:19:04,453 [Bess] They were listening to her phone calls, 340 00:19:04,477 --> 00:19:06,037 they were getting her on audio, 341 00:19:06,078 --> 00:19:07,608 they were getting her on video. 342 00:19:13,285 --> 00:19:15,045 [Narrator] And Marty isn’t the only one 343 00:19:15,087 --> 00:19:16,987 who looks like she has something to hide. 344 00:19:28,801 --> 00:19:31,901 [Narrator] Just what is ed Hopkins up to? 345 00:19:36,275 --> 00:19:37,352 [Policeman talking over radio] 346 00:19:37,376 --> 00:19:39,236 [Narrator] Police in mesa, Arizona, 347 00:19:39,278 --> 00:19:42,178 have put Marty Malone under surveillance, 348 00:19:42,214 --> 00:19:45,454 but it’s detective ed Hopkins who is raising eyebrows. 349 00:19:55,528 --> 00:19:59,258 He starts saying that he is unhappy with his life 350 00:19:59,298 --> 00:20:01,198 in the bothell police department, 351 00:20:01,233 --> 00:20:04,903 wants to leave rainy Seattle, move to Arizona. 352 00:20:16,415 --> 00:20:19,445 Ed is telling her he needs a change from bothell police department. 353 00:20:19,485 --> 00:20:22,595 He likes it in Arizona. He wants to move down there 354 00:20:22,621 --> 00:20:24,691 and so, he’s willing to do that, 355 00:20:24,724 --> 00:20:29,064 and is asking about ways to make that happen. 356 00:20:29,095 --> 00:20:31,305 She starts saying she can maybe get him a job 357 00:20:31,330 --> 00:20:33,270 with some of her connections 358 00:20:33,299 --> 00:20:36,029 and a friendship develops between the two of them. 359 00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:39,338 Although, she probably wanted more than just a friendship. 360 00:20:53,419 --> 00:20:58,189 [Narrator] Ed even starts bad-mouthing his new Arizona partner, Tom denning. 361 00:21:13,139 --> 00:21:14,569 The last thing you want to see 362 00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:18,737 is your partner getting close to a suspect in a murder investigation. 363 00:21:18,778 --> 00:21:22,948 [Narrator] Just how much did people know about the real ed Hopkins? 364 00:21:22,982 --> 00:21:24,782 I’ve known ed for a long time. 365 00:21:24,817 --> 00:21:25,917 He’s very social, 366 00:21:25,951 --> 00:21:28,091 he could connect with you right away 367 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:31,360 and he can strike up a conversation with anybody. 368 00:21:31,390 --> 00:21:35,460 There wasn’t anything in ed’s past that would have raised suspicions, 369 00:21:35,494 --> 00:21:38,634 so it was very strange to watch him growing closer to Marty. 370 00:21:40,499 --> 00:21:42,799 [Stemler] As prosecutors, we’re always concerned 371 00:21:42,835 --> 00:21:46,105 about the way investigations are conducted. 372 00:21:46,138 --> 00:21:49,778 So, it’s prohibited for detectives to have sexual relationships 373 00:21:49,809 --> 00:21:52,639 with informants or things like that. 374 00:21:52,678 --> 00:21:55,148 [Narrator] Especially, when their flirtatious conversations 375 00:21:55,181 --> 00:21:57,151 turn to details about the case. 376 00:22:11,664 --> 00:22:15,304 As they’re growing closer, she starts asking him about what’s going on in the case 377 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:19,074 and he starts giving her updates, which is a real no-no. 378 00:22:27,379 --> 00:22:30,019 [Narrator] That’s when ed drops a bombshell on Marty, 379 00:22:30,049 --> 00:22:34,249 that he already knows she’s guilty of killing Steve. 380 00:22:38,090 --> 00:22:40,590 [Narrator] Why hasn’t ed turned her in already? 381 00:22:40,626 --> 00:22:42,026 Just what is he after? 382 00:22:48,267 --> 00:22:49,227 [Narrator] Bothell, Washington 383 00:22:49,268 --> 00:22:51,238 police detective, ed Hopkins, 384 00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:53,170 has been investigating Marty Malone 385 00:22:53,205 --> 00:22:56,735 for the death of her ex-husband, Steven ver woert. 386 00:22:56,775 --> 00:22:59,175 Since his arrival in mesa, Arizona, 387 00:22:59,211 --> 00:23:03,421 he seems to be more interested in helping Marty to get away with murder. 388 00:23:07,953 --> 00:23:11,523 Between February 20th and the 23rd or so, 389 00:23:11,557 --> 00:23:14,557 ed and Marty are having a lot of different conversations. 390 00:23:14,593 --> 00:23:15,963 During the time period, 391 00:23:15,995 --> 00:23:18,965 detective denning, consistent with what they do in Arizona, 392 00:23:18,998 --> 00:23:21,128 recorded all these conversations. 393 00:23:30,342 --> 00:23:33,152 [Narrator] Just who is ed being loyal to, 394 00:23:33,178 --> 00:23:35,308 the case or the killer? 395 00:23:45,090 --> 00:23:48,190 Seemed like detective Hopkins might be, like, crossing the line? 396 00:24:09,315 --> 00:24:12,685 Obviously, in hearing all of this, detective denning wanted to learn more 397 00:24:12,718 --> 00:24:15,618 and wanted to figure out what was really going on between them. 398 00:24:15,654 --> 00:24:19,394 [Narrator] That’s when Marty starts talking about the missing murder weapon. 399 00:24:45,384 --> 00:24:50,324 [Narrator] Detective Hopkins offers to help make marty’s legal problems go away, 400 00:24:50,356 --> 00:24:51,686 for a cut of the action. 401 00:25:31,296 --> 00:25:36,696 Ed is letting her know that he’s willing to leave bothell police department, 402 00:25:36,735 --> 00:25:40,365 that he’s willing to take steps to come down here, 403 00:25:40,406 --> 00:25:42,406 but he wants to be taken care of financially, 404 00:25:42,441 --> 00:25:44,111 he wants the money, 405 00:25:44,143 --> 00:25:48,613 that it’ll work out between them if the money is all taken care of. 406 00:26:13,572 --> 00:26:15,316 The first thing that detective Hopkins wanted 407 00:26:15,340 --> 00:26:16,940 was a Harley-Davidson motorcycle. 408 00:26:29,988 --> 00:26:31,558 She agreed to that, no problem. 409 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:34,930 He was done up in bothell, he wanted to move to Arizona, 410 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,500 he wanted to ride off on a Harley with her. 411 00:26:37,529 --> 00:26:39,859 They just needed to get a few things figured out first. 412 00:26:56,682 --> 00:26:58,582 It’s a convincing argument. 413 00:26:58,617 --> 00:27:00,287 [Narrator] So, Marty finally relents 414 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:03,619 and tells ed what really happened that night. 415 00:27:03,655 --> 00:27:08,225 And it started with a man she met in an Arizona bar named John Curtis. 416 00:27:21,073 --> 00:27:22,013 [Stemler] They’re in a bar. 417 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,880 There’s a sign on the wall that says, 418 00:27:23,909 --> 00:27:27,149 "some people are alive only because it’s against the law to kill them." 419 00:27:29,248 --> 00:27:34,718 That started the conversation between Marty and John about killing Steve ver woert. 420 00:27:34,753 --> 00:27:37,363 Marty ends up convincing 421 00:27:37,389 --> 00:27:40,059 Jonathan Curtis to commit the murder. 422 00:27:42,261 --> 00:27:44,901 Initially, it was supposed to take place 423 00:27:44,930 --> 00:27:48,330 in Arizona while Steve was there at Christmas time 424 00:27:48,367 --> 00:27:50,737 and there was some wacky plan, 425 00:27:50,769 --> 00:27:53,381 where John was going to run him off the road or something like that, 426 00:27:53,405 --> 00:27:55,035 that didn’t work out. 427 00:27:55,073 --> 00:27:56,543 So then, they changed the plan 428 00:27:56,575 --> 00:27:59,685 and decided to drive up to bothell to kill Steve. 429 00:28:01,547 --> 00:28:07,347 Marty and John drove up in marty’s vehicle from Arizona to bothell. 430 00:28:07,386 --> 00:28:10,486 They had driven to bothell, she and Curtis. 431 00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:13,532 And when they arrived, Steve was still at work, 432 00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:16,189 so they went to a bar, the big foot tavern, 433 00:28:16,228 --> 00:28:17,698 and gambled for a while, 434 00:28:17,729 --> 00:28:20,299 and then, waited for Steve to come home. 435 00:28:21,133 --> 00:28:22,933 Marty stayed in the car, 436 00:28:22,968 --> 00:28:27,438 while Jonathan Curtis hiked over to the rv park and carried out the killing. 437 00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:53,600 [Stemler] Then, John had walked back. 438 00:28:53,632 --> 00:28:55,932 Marty’s in the vehicle, waiting for him. 439 00:28:55,968 --> 00:28:59,138 John gets in. He’s very sweaty, smelly. 440 00:28:59,905 --> 00:29:01,645 Marty asks about the smell. 441 00:29:01,673 --> 00:29:03,413 John says, "haven’t you ever been on a barn? 442 00:29:03,442 --> 00:29:04,542 That’s the smell of blood." 443 00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:06,276 And then, they go from there. 444 00:29:16,622 --> 00:29:18,962 They disposed of jonathan’s bloody clothing, 445 00:29:18,991 --> 00:29:23,231 about 250 miles away in Washington state. 446 00:29:23,262 --> 00:29:24,606 [Stemler] They threw them in some dumpster, 447 00:29:24,630 --> 00:29:27,570 at some fast food place on the way back. 448 00:29:27,599 --> 00:29:30,939 [Narrator] Marty tells Curtis, she will pay him $25,000, 449 00:29:30,969 --> 00:29:34,239 once she gets ver woert’s life insurance payout. 450 00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:38,213 But in the meantime, she tells ed that Curtis is getting impatient. 451 00:29:57,329 --> 00:30:00,299 [Narrator] All of which leads them to one big loose end. 452 00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:13,321 [Stemler] John is just a loose end that could get her into trouble 453 00:30:13,345 --> 00:30:14,885 and she decided she liked ed 454 00:30:14,913 --> 00:30:18,153 and wanted ed Hopkins to take care of that problem for her. 455 00:30:33,065 --> 00:30:35,305 [Kim] We know that Steve had a couple 456 00:30:35,334 --> 00:30:37,044 of life insurance policies on him 457 00:30:37,069 --> 00:30:39,139 that Marty was hoping to cash in on. 458 00:30:39,171 --> 00:30:45,041 And so, she was going to use part of that money to pay Jonathan for killing him. 459 00:30:45,077 --> 00:30:49,007 Now that she was talking with the detective, she said, "you know what? 460 00:30:49,047 --> 00:30:53,517 Let’s get rid of Jonathan. Tell you what? Forget about the $25,000 for Jonathan. 461 00:30:53,552 --> 00:30:55,552 I want to give that to you, detective Hopkins. 462 00:30:55,587 --> 00:31:00,557 And not only that $25,000, but an additional $50,000, 463 00:31:00,592 --> 00:31:02,262 if you’ll get rid of Jonathan." 464 00:31:24,649 --> 00:31:26,319 [Narrator] Ed Hopkins and Marty Malone 465 00:31:26,351 --> 00:31:28,491 are forming an uneasy alliance. 466 00:31:38,363 --> 00:31:42,333 [Narrator] But police in mesa are listening to every last detail. 467 00:31:44,035 --> 00:31:47,005 [Bess] After they come up with a plan to kill Curtis, 468 00:31:47,038 --> 00:31:49,608 ed says, "I have a surprise for you. 469 00:31:49,641 --> 00:31:53,341 I’ve got flowers for you in the trunk of the car." 470 00:31:53,378 --> 00:31:54,678 And she’s all excited. 471 00:32:09,761 --> 00:32:12,761 [Bess] And then, all the cops surround the car with their guns drawn. 472 00:32:15,233 --> 00:32:17,303 The detectives in the other vehicle 473 00:32:17,335 --> 00:32:21,405 were listening in to this conversation as it was developing. 474 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,710 They knew that they had the information that they needed 475 00:32:24,743 --> 00:32:27,583 in order to make an arrest for the murder of Steve ver woert. 476 00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:32,724 I think this was a total surprise to Marty, this arrest. 477 00:32:32,751 --> 00:32:36,991 I think she believed that she and ed Hopkins were going to have this great life together, 478 00:32:37,022 --> 00:32:39,322 with money that she had been looking forward to getting, 479 00:32:39,357 --> 00:32:43,187 and then, the world came crashing down on her. 480 00:32:43,228 --> 00:32:46,858 [Narrator] That’s because there’s one fatal flaw with marty’s plan. 481 00:32:46,898 --> 00:32:50,498 Detective ed Hopkins has been working with detective denning 482 00:32:50,535 --> 00:32:53,565 to investigate Marty this entire time. 483 00:32:53,605 --> 00:32:56,815 He’s wearing a wire to capture her confession on tape. 484 00:32:57,876 --> 00:33:00,236 In this particular case, I was the lucky guy, right? 485 00:33:00,278 --> 00:33:02,578 I got to have the fun part, so to speak. 486 00:33:02,614 --> 00:33:04,884 My name is Edward Hopkins. 487 00:33:04,916 --> 00:33:06,416 I’m a retired police detective 488 00:33:06,451 --> 00:33:09,751 from the bothell police department in Washington state. 489 00:33:09,788 --> 00:33:13,588 I had an opportunity to investigate Marty Malone. 490 00:33:13,625 --> 00:33:16,735 [Narrator] And it all starts on a hunch. 491 00:33:16,761 --> 00:33:19,231 When detective denning and I went to marty’s house, 492 00:33:19,264 --> 00:33:20,874 the way she acted, 493 00:33:20,899 --> 00:33:22,469 that was something in my mind 494 00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:26,471 that there was more to her than we originally suspected. 495 00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,315 We both noticed it. 496 00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:31,280 She was overtly friendly from the very beginning. 497 00:33:31,309 --> 00:33:33,439 She hugged us at the mesa police department, 498 00:33:33,478 --> 00:33:36,308 she’s hugging me at this restaurant. 499 00:33:36,348 --> 00:33:40,278 A family member or a friend of a person who’s been killed, 500 00:33:40,318 --> 00:33:41,748 you’ve delivered this news to them 501 00:33:41,786 --> 00:33:45,386 and it’s not unusual for them to give you a hug or you to hug them, 502 00:33:45,423 --> 00:33:49,663 in sort of a compassionate way of showing your concern for them. 503 00:33:49,694 --> 00:33:53,004 But that was not the type of hug that Marty was giving. 504 00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:55,631 She was overtly friendly 505 00:33:56,835 --> 00:33:58,975 and, I thought, somewhat flirtatious. 506 00:34:04,109 --> 00:34:06,509 Detective Hopkins realized quickly 507 00:34:06,545 --> 00:34:10,185 that Marty had a romantic interest in him. 508 00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:13,083 [Ed] She wants to win me over 509 00:34:13,118 --> 00:34:14,618 to get my cooperation 510 00:34:14,653 --> 00:34:15,623 in getting the death certificate, 511 00:34:15,654 --> 00:34:18,324 help her further complete her plan. 512 00:34:18,356 --> 00:34:20,256 Just something about that told me that 513 00:34:20,292 --> 00:34:23,862 I could try to use an investigative ruse. 514 00:34:23,895 --> 00:34:25,325 It’s very unorthodox. 515 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,599 [Ed] I contacted my supervisors 516 00:34:30,635 --> 00:34:32,665 and sort of laid out the strategy 517 00:34:32,704 --> 00:34:37,514 that i’m going to portray myself as being unhappy as a police officer, 518 00:34:37,542 --> 00:34:39,142 and i’m going to 519 00:34:40,412 --> 00:34:42,852 suggest that I might want to move to Arizona. 520 00:34:42,881 --> 00:34:45,321 Supervisors are good with it, the prosecutor is good with it, 521 00:34:45,350 --> 00:34:48,990 everybody is on board with that general framework. 522 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:52,560 The rest is to be determined as we move along. 523 00:34:52,591 --> 00:34:54,402 [Bess] She thought that she was playing the police 524 00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:57,026 and, in fact, they were playing her the whole time. 525 00:34:59,564 --> 00:35:02,134 [Ed] No way to know at the outset if it was going to work. 526 00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:04,997 It was all just improvisation. 527 00:35:05,036 --> 00:35:09,036 It was all a make it up as you go kind of situation. 528 00:35:09,074 --> 00:35:11,218 You’re trying to make sure you get all the information you can, 529 00:35:11,242 --> 00:35:13,612 but there comes a point where you have to stop, right? 530 00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:16,076 So, the arrest signal was that 531 00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:18,724 I was going to tell her I had flowers for her in the car. 532 00:35:19,684 --> 00:35:22,054 I had... "I got something for you." 533 00:35:22,087 --> 00:35:24,657 And she said, "what?" I said, "flowers." 534 00:35:24,689 --> 00:35:27,789 And she said, "oh, ed, I love flowers!" 535 00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:33,197 At this point, she was 100 percent believing me. 536 00:35:33,231 --> 00:35:37,971 The arrest team runs up and she’s yelling, "ed! Ed!" 537 00:35:38,903 --> 00:35:40,403 She’s calling my name, 538 00:35:40,438 --> 00:35:45,208 as if she thinks that i’m going to somehow intervene or rescue her. 539 00:35:45,243 --> 00:35:48,713 And I don’t think she, at that point, had figured it out. 540 00:35:48,747 --> 00:35:51,277 I walked over to her and I said, 541 00:35:51,316 --> 00:35:54,716 "yeah, I can’t help you. You’re under arrest for murder. 542 00:35:54,753 --> 00:35:58,923 I took an oath to uphold the law and you are, you’re a suspect here. 543 00:35:58,957 --> 00:35:59,957 You’re going to jail." 544 00:36:00,492 --> 00:36:01,762 And, um, 545 00:36:01,793 --> 00:36:03,093 then I walked away from her. 546 00:36:07,399 --> 00:36:10,269 After they arrested Marty Malone in the car, 547 00:36:10,301 --> 00:36:12,741 when she confessed her involvement in the murder, 548 00:36:12,771 --> 00:36:15,071 they took her to the mesa police department 549 00:36:15,106 --> 00:36:16,236 and interviewed her there. 550 00:36:20,512 --> 00:36:22,312 [Tom] Let’s back up a couple steps, okay? 551 00:36:22,347 --> 00:36:23,807 Because I know that right now, 552 00:36:23,848 --> 00:36:25,493 I know this doesn’t happen to you every day. 553 00:36:25,517 --> 00:36:26,727 - Yeah. - [Tom] And I know that your head is probably 554 00:36:26,751 --> 00:36:28,262 spinning in a lot of different directions. 555 00:36:28,286 --> 00:36:30,464 - Well, no, but I know what’s... - [Tom] I know you know... 556 00:36:30,488 --> 00:36:32,118 I know why i’d be wrong, for god’s sake. 557 00:36:32,157 --> 00:36:33,287 [Tom] Why don’t we back up. 558 00:36:33,324 --> 00:36:34,969 - You were contacted, let’s start with that. - Mmm-hmm. 559 00:36:34,993 --> 00:36:37,663 - [Tom] Let’s start with... - Let’s start with a cigarette. 560 00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:38,896 I don’t think we can. 561 00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:40,400 Just keep going. 562 00:36:40,432 --> 00:36:42,472 Ed, you’ve talked to me how many times? 563 00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:44,070 We’ve talked outside before 564 00:36:44,102 --> 00:36:46,942 - and I mean, I am not stupid. - [Ed] Okay, I understand. 565 00:36:46,971 --> 00:36:50,741 - Let’s get the meat and potatoes out first... - all right. Okay. 566 00:36:50,775 --> 00:36:52,305 - [Ed] Tell you what? - And then? 567 00:36:52,343 --> 00:36:56,683 [Ed] We’ll take a break, we’ll go down, we’ll have a smoke break outside, 568 00:36:56,715 --> 00:36:57,958 - where... - That’s where it’s legal. 569 00:36:57,982 --> 00:37:00,452 - [Ed] And then, we come back up and... - now. 570 00:37:00,485 --> 00:37:01,855 [Ed] Clear this all up. 571 00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:05,156 Regardless, here’s another question. Regardless of what I tell you, 572 00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:07,990 i’m still going to be booked and all that here, tonight? 573 00:37:08,026 --> 00:37:11,626 [Narrator] Marty tries to downplay her involvement in the killing. 574 00:37:11,663 --> 00:37:13,863 I’m not going to say anything other than the truth, 575 00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:15,698 but i’ll tell you this, 576 00:37:16,401 --> 00:37:19,841 I do not feel responsible 577 00:37:19,871 --> 00:37:20,971 for his death. 578 00:37:21,005 --> 00:37:22,605 So, i’m telling you the truth. 579 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,851 - [Ed] Let’s stop. - Hold on, okay? 580 00:37:23,875 --> 00:37:26,315 - I’m just frustrated... - Hold on, hold on. 581 00:37:26,344 --> 00:37:28,554 [Ed] Marty, let’s stop here, okay. 582 00:37:29,047 --> 00:37:30,647 What... 583 00:37:30,682 --> 00:37:34,452 I can see the pattern that you’re going in right now, okay? 584 00:37:34,486 --> 00:37:38,516 And I know you’re scared and I know you’re nervous and I know you’re upset. 585 00:37:38,556 --> 00:37:41,326 Okay? But now is a very crucial moment. 586 00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:44,999 Now it’s a crucial time to say, "hey, I made a mistake 587 00:37:45,029 --> 00:37:47,829 and here’s what happened, 588 00:37:47,866 --> 00:37:51,166 and here’s the way it happened." And lay it out for us. 589 00:37:51,202 --> 00:37:52,802 When Marty Malone revealed 590 00:37:52,837 --> 00:37:56,137 that Jonathan Curtis was the person who committed the murder, 591 00:37:56,174 --> 00:37:59,584 obviously, detectives were very anxious to take him into custody. 592 00:37:59,611 --> 00:38:01,351 John was arrested at his house, 593 00:38:01,379 --> 00:38:02,379 a short time later. 594 00:38:07,085 --> 00:38:09,595 John Curtis worked in construction. 595 00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:13,191 He claimed to be a former police officer. 596 00:38:13,224 --> 00:38:17,264 But it turned out that a lot of what Jonathan Curtis had told Marty Malone 597 00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:18,295 was not true. 598 00:38:19,798 --> 00:38:21,368 Initially, both, 599 00:38:21,399 --> 00:38:23,029 Marty Malone and Jonathan Curtis 600 00:38:23,067 --> 00:38:25,567 were charged with aggravated first-degree murder. 601 00:38:25,603 --> 00:38:27,173 That’s the only crime in Washington 602 00:38:27,205 --> 00:38:29,275 that has the potential of the death penalty. 603 00:38:29,307 --> 00:38:31,607 Marty blamed Jonathan Curtis, 604 00:38:31,643 --> 00:38:35,213 Jonathan Curtis said Marty committed the murder and he didn’t know about it. 605 00:38:35,246 --> 00:38:37,546 So, they were pointing the finger at each other. 606 00:38:39,384 --> 00:38:42,194 We took some steps to try to corroborate 607 00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:44,860 the truth of what one was saying versus the other 608 00:38:44,889 --> 00:38:47,729 and we believed that marty’s statements were accurate, 609 00:38:47,759 --> 00:38:51,259 and that john’s were not about how the murder was committed. 610 00:38:51,296 --> 00:38:56,066 Ultimately, we worked with Marty malone’s attorney and 611 00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:58,870 she had to agree to do interviews and provide more information, 612 00:38:58,903 --> 00:39:03,043 before we ultimately agreed to reduce her charge and allow her to plead guilty 613 00:39:03,074 --> 00:39:06,414 to something other than aggravated first-degree murder. 614 00:39:06,444 --> 00:39:10,614 [Narrator] But the questions surrounding Marty Malone do not end there. 615 00:39:10,648 --> 00:39:13,048 [Kim] Marty has an interesting past. 616 00:39:13,084 --> 00:39:17,664 In addition to Steve, she had two other ex-husbands who died 617 00:39:17,689 --> 00:39:19,989 under somewhat mysterious circumstances 618 00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:23,664 and were quickly cremated so autopsies couldn’t be done. 619 00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:25,265 [Stemler] The most recent husband, 620 00:39:25,296 --> 00:39:29,596 before she met Steve, was only 43 years old when he died of a heart attack. 621 00:39:29,634 --> 00:39:32,904 She was the sole beneficiary of his estate 622 00:39:32,937 --> 00:39:35,467 and she spent that money very freely, 623 00:39:35,506 --> 00:39:39,836 including giving it out to friends at the bars around scottsdale. 624 00:39:39,878 --> 00:39:42,308 Ultimately, we were never able to prove 625 00:39:42,347 --> 00:39:45,617 whether she had any involvement in their deaths. 626 00:39:45,650 --> 00:39:49,520 [Narrator] John Curtis, meanwhile, comes up with a plan of his own. 627 00:39:49,554 --> 00:39:51,294 [Kim] While he’s in jail, 628 00:39:51,322 --> 00:39:55,332 John decides, he’s going to try to hire a fellow inmate to kill Marty, 629 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,430 so that he can get out of it. 630 00:39:57,462 --> 00:39:59,432 [Stemler] Instead, what that individual does, 631 00:39:59,464 --> 00:40:02,834 is he takes that information and provides it to the detectives 632 00:40:02,867 --> 00:40:05,837 and tries to work out a deal for himself. 633 00:40:05,870 --> 00:40:08,670 Marty Malone did testify at John curtis’s trial. 634 00:40:09,474 --> 00:40:11,984 The jury found that John Curtis 635 00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:15,550 was guilty of aggravated first-degree murder for killing Steve ver woert 636 00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:18,880 and he ended up with life imprisonment without possibility of parole. 637 00:40:18,917 --> 00:40:23,687 [Narrator] Marty Malone ultimately pleads guilty to first degree murder. 638 00:40:23,721 --> 00:40:26,221 The judge followed the prosecutor’s recommendation 639 00:40:26,257 --> 00:40:28,327 and imposed 23 years in prison. 640 00:40:37,936 --> 00:40:40,466 [Ed] It’s kind of a strange emotion because 641 00:40:40,505 --> 00:40:42,675 you’re thrilled that this is working 642 00:40:42,707 --> 00:40:44,807 and you want to feel joy about that, 643 00:40:44,842 --> 00:40:48,982 but you really can’t, right? You might be able to high-five like, "we got her." 644 00:40:49,013 --> 00:40:50,653 But you can’t really feel happy, 645 00:40:50,682 --> 00:40:54,122 because the whole reason we’re there is because somebody was killed. 646 00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:58,317 And I had met with 647 00:40:58,356 --> 00:41:01,056 steve’s parents, his brother and sister-in-law, 648 00:41:01,092 --> 00:41:03,432 his first wife, his son, 649 00:41:04,262 --> 00:41:05,262 his friends, 650 00:41:05,863 --> 00:41:08,773 I felt connected to them. 651 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,000 I remember walking down the sidewalk and talking to his son, 652 00:41:12,036 --> 00:41:14,406 trying to kind of explain, you know, 653 00:41:14,439 --> 00:41:17,039 what I could explain to a child. 654 00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:21,415 You can’t experience that and not feel that, right? You just can’t. 655 00:41:23,381 --> 00:41:27,121 I’m grateful to have been able to work this case 656 00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:29,421 and... and see it through, 657 00:41:29,454 --> 00:41:33,524 um, but i’m extremely appreciative of all the people 658 00:41:33,558 --> 00:41:35,388 that I got to work with. 659 00:41:35,426 --> 00:41:38,026 It’s an important thing to have that, 660 00:41:38,062 --> 00:41:39,562 that teamwork that we had. 661 00:41:41,733 --> 00:41:45,443 It was a tremendous relief to know that they were from out of state, 662 00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:49,910 that it was not local folks involved in such a heinous crime, 663 00:41:51,242 --> 00:41:53,112 that they can trust their neighbors. 664 00:41:54,912 --> 00:41:58,252 [Mike] As a person who lived in the town, I was very happy. 665 00:41:58,282 --> 00:42:03,052 You know, I take it personal when something like this happens in my town. 666 00:42:03,087 --> 00:42:04,887 I raised my children there, 667 00:42:04,922 --> 00:42:06,322 I grew up there 668 00:42:06,357 --> 00:42:08,487 and so, when we caught Marty Malone 669 00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:11,326 and we got her arrested and she’s in jail, 670 00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:13,802 that was a real good feeling 671 00:42:13,831 --> 00:42:16,171 to know that justice was served. 57956

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