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[Narrator] An Arizona
woman raises eyebrows
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by flirting with a cop sent
to investigate her for murder.
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[Laughs]
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[Narrator] But things
take a turn for the weird,
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when he starts flirting back.
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[Narrator] And offers to
help her cover up her crime.
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[Narrator] Just whose
side is this cop on?
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Seemed like detective Hopkins
might be, like, crossing the line.
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[Narrator] And will he
help a killer strike again?
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[Policeman 1] Detective sergeant
korowski, working for another case.
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[Narrator] Undercover work is some
of the riskiest in law enforcement.
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[Policeman 2] Okay, she’s out of the
car. Okay, good deal, good deal, good deal.
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[Narrator] One wrong move...
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[Siren blaring]
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[Narrator] ...Can cost a life.
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[Policeman] Police, don’t move!
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[Narrator] In rare situations,
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everyday people go
undercover in search of the truth.
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They’re willing to risk it all,
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even taking down
friends and family.
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This isn’t the movies. I
had to actually do this.
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[Narrator] Doing the right thing
has never been so dangerous.
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[Diane] Bothell is a
rather large suburban city
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and it’s split
between king county
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and snohomish county.
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King county is Seattle-based.
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Snohomish county kicks in, oh,
maybe 15 minutes up the freeway.
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[Kim] It’s a much smaller town.
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Not quite a farm town, but definitely a
smaller town than something like Seattle.
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[Diane] Lots of suburbs,
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but then when you get
to the north and the east,
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there’s farmland and crops
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and they hit the mountains.
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It’s a rather
lovely place, really.
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You get the best of both worlds.
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[Narrator] In the late 1990s,
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life in bothell is
changing fast,
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the old logging mills and farms
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being replaced by high-tech
and computer companies.
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[Bess] In the ’90s, it would have been
home to some people doing fairly well,
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because of its proximity to redmond and
the tech hubs of Microsoft and all of that.
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Although, there also would have
been some more blue-collar folks as well.
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[Narrator] Bothell’s one claim to
fame is the town’s Christmas tree.
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At 110 feet,
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life magazine proclaims it to be the tallest
living Christmas tree in the country.
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[Carol] It’s right in
downtown bothell.
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I used to look
at that and think,
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"how did they get up there
and put the lights up in there?"
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But they decorated it every year
and it was something to always see.
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You know, it’s a
part of the history.
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Bothell still felt like this,
you know, quaint community.
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[Diane] We don’t get a lot of
dramatic crime out here in the burbs.
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We don’t get a lot
of dramatic murders.
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It’s an unusual thing, it’s a startling
thing when some big crime happens.
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We hadn’t had a homicide
since I couldn’t remember
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and I had been living in
the community since 1979.
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[Narrator] But that all changes on
the morning of February 5th, 1997,
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when local cellular phone engineer,
Steve ver woert, is late for work.
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[Bess] It’s his 44th birthday
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and he does not show
up to work at uscellular,
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which is suspicious
to his fellow co-workers
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because he’s usually a
pretty dependable guy.
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[Kim] Steve’s administrative
assistant, Deborah Warren,
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noticed that he hadn’t come in on
Wednesday morning like he usually does.
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So, when it got to be noon
time and he still hadn’t arrived,
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the administrative assistant
began to wonder what was going on
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and whether he was okay.
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She decided to stop by the trailer
park where Steve was living at the time.
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And when she walked
up to the door of the trailer,
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she noticed what she thought
looked like blood on the door.
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She immediately
went back to her car,
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called her office first
and then called 911.
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[Narrator] That’s when the
police arrive and within moments,
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they find Steve, covered in
blood, on the floor of his trailer.
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[Mike] You could
see Steve laying there.
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There was a large amount of blood
that had pooled around his body.
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And then, when they checked
to see if he may still be alive,
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they checked for a pulse,
they didn’t get a pulse.
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There appeared to be a struggle.
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Some things were knocked over.
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It looked as though he
had some defensive wounds
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and upon closer
examination of his body,
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it looked like he
had some injuries
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that were consistent of
stabbing towards his neck.
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And then, on his neck itself,
there was a severe laceration.
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It appeared as if the killer
came in or killers came in
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and there was a
struggle, he was killed.
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Nothing else was taken or
missing from the residence.
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His wallet was
out on the carpet,
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with his credit
cards all fanned out,
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which is unusual.
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[Narrator] Police find no
fingerprints at the scene
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and send whatever
evidence they can collect,
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back to the lab for testing.
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Nothing else in the residence
looked to be disturbed.
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So, it looks initially that
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whoever... was focused on Steven
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and not so much on
anything else in the house.
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The door wasn’t locked.
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There was no
signs of forced entry.
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Because it’s possible
that it’s somebody he knew,
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my assignment was to
do victimology on Steve
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and to start interviewing friends,
co-workers and family as well,
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and everything we can gather, all
information what we know about Steve.
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When the investigators
start asking around,
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they discover that
Steve is really well liked.
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He’s known as a
sweet, smart guy.
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He does not have
obvious enemies.
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He came from a very
church-going family in Iowa.
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Religion seems to have
been important for them.
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Some people said he gave away a
lot of money to church-going groups
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and he was, by all
accounts, pretty smart.
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He was actually hired to
come up here to bothell
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to establish a new cellular telephone
technology system for uscellular.
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[Narrator] Although
Steve lives in bothell,
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most of his family
is down in Arizona,
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including his parents, two ex-wives
and son from his first marriage.
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Steven ver woert was a divorcee.
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He’d been married
a couple times.
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He had a young child,
about 12-years-old.
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He was working up here, while his
family and his son were down in Arizona.
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Steve had been
here, in the area,
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probably four or five years.
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He was very social,
cared a lot about people
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and he was very
drawn to helping others,
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and, in particular, he liked
to help his co-workers as well,
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but he liked to go out
and he liked to have fun,
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and part of that having fun is he
liked to frequent taverns and bars.
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He loved to sing
karaoke and liked to drink.
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This was a real whodunit.
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[Carol] It doesn’t fit in with
a friendly, safe community
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and the first thing you
want to know is are we safe,
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which I remember thinking,
"is this guy coming back for us?"
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I was very scared.
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I first heard about this murder of
Steve ver woert right after it happened.
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There weren’t very many murders
in snohomish county during this time.
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His trailer did show
some signs of struggle,
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but there was no
signs of forced entry.
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We were thinking it was likely that either
someone entered without his permission
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because he left
his door unlocked,
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or, more likely, someone
he had let in or known
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came into his trailer with his
permission and ended up murdering him.
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[Narrator] Despite
the horrific struggle,
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there is no physical evidence to indicate
who the killer or killers might be.
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[Stemler] We’re always looking to
get our hands on the murder weapon
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for whatever evidence
that can provide.
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The weapon was never
recovered in this case
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and detectives spent a
great deal of time looking for it,
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but it was just never recovered.
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There’s no obvious DNA
evidence or fingerprints
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tying anyone to the crime.
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Here we had a body
of Steven ver woert,
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who had been left there and
we had no idea who had done it.
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[Narrator] With no
suspects and no motive,
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police in bothell
expand their investigation
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to where Steve
had previously lived,
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mesa, Arizona.
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That’s when detective ed
Hopkins enters the picture.
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Ed Hopkins was 33 at the time,
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working for the bothell
police department
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and he was apparently ruggedly
handsome, looking like Erik estrada,
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and he was apparently charming.
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[Stemler] Detective
Hopkins went to Arizona
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and he was assigned to work
with a detective in mesa, Arizona,
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by the name of Tom denning.
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[Bess] Ed Hopkins
goes to Arizona
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to start asking more questions
and interviewing steve’s family.
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And they’re all sitting
around in a room,
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trying to think about who
might want Steve dead
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or who would benefit
from his death?
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And that’s when, I believe, it
was steve’s brother who says,
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"I think we might be
overlooking the obvious here.
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What about his ex-wife, Marty?"
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[Narrator] Steven ver woert
had divorced Marty Malone
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a few years prior to his murder.
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But the couple remained
on friendly terms
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and still stayed in
touch with one another.
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[Stemler] Even
after the divorce,
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Marty had told detectives that
Steve had just come to visit her
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the Christmas and
Thanksgiving beforehand.
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So, they were still having
contact, still meeting.
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Marty Malone was a middle-aged female
who had been married a couple of times.
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[Stemler] When ed Hopkins and Tom
denning went to Marty malone’s house,
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they knock on the door.
Eventually, Marty comes to the door...
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[Stemler] ...And she indicates,
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"oh, you’re from bothell
pd. I only know one person,
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my ex-husband, Steve ver woert."
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She invited them in.
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They talked to her about
what had happened,
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that he had been murdered.
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She didn’t ask any
questions, show any emotion.
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She said, "it
hadn’t sunk in yet."
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[Narrator] Marty’s
lack of emotions is odd,
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but what she does next
is even more unusual.
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[Stemler] Then she started
looking for paperwork, like his will
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and, in fact, the will that
she showed to the detectives,
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left everything to her, except
for three single, one-dollar gifts,
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one to his son and
two other people.
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[Narrator] Hearing about the will
immediately gets the detective’s attention.
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They also question why Marty has
her ex-husband’s will at her fingertips?
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After some initial
conversation at her house,
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the detectives asked Marty
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to come to the police department
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later that night.
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Marty said she was
going to have a drink
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and detective denning told her, "it’s
probably a bad idea to have a drink
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right before you drive
to the police department."
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So, she said she would jump in
the shower and meet them shortly.
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Marty described her relationship
with Steve as very good.
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She had just spoken to him
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a couple days before the murder.
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Was he seeing
anybody at the time?
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- That you are aware of?
- Um...
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He was going with a gal named Kathy
for a while, but that didn’t work out.
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And I don’t mean going with, I
think they went to dinner twice.
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I mean it wasn’t a...
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Um...
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Jennifer. He and Jennifer
pal around a lot together.
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Uh, he took Jennifer
all over Seattle,
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looking for an apartment.
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One thing guaranteed,
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for sure,
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he always had at
least $400 cash on him.
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- Okay.
- Always.
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[Detective] Did he
say anything, um,
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recently
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about, um...
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Making friends with anybody,
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um, helping out a transient?
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Uh, any, I understand
he’s a pretty caring guy.
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I understand he would go to great
lengths and do anything for anybody.
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He’s one of the few that
still picks up hitchhikers.
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[Detective] Okay.
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[Narrator] Marty
says when they met,
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she and Steven fell for
each other immediately.
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Within...
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Three weeks, he
was living with me.
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- Okay.
- It was happy.
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[Bess] They met at a
karaoke night in 1992.
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It seemed like they
had a lot in common.
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They both liked the same music,
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they were both from Iowa
and had moved to Arizona.
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They do end up getting married
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and I think it’s June of 1993,
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but it was actually
a sham wedding,
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because steve’s
divorce was not final yet
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and in the end, he actually
did not even have his signature
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on the marriage license.
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He was intending to sign it,
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from... from what we know,
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but he never did
actually sign it.
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The wedding was
never legally valid.
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Things quickly soured.
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I don’t think there was really a
long period of bliss in this marriage.
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There seems to have been, um, tension,
especially around steve’s son, Brett.
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He really loved
spending time with his kid
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and she was very jealous
of that time and attention.
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One of the comments that Marty
had talked about with the detectives
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was that steve’s
parents kind of interfered
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because they didn’t
like her very well
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and, in fact, it turns out
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a lot of steve’s friends didn’t
really like her very well at all.
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[Bess] His family and even some of
his friends don’t really approve of Marty,
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because of her boisterousness
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and she kind of talked like a
sailor. She’s sort of dominating.
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She didn’t make a great
impression on them.
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And it became very tumultuous.
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Then they did get divorced
about a year after that.
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She described being
pretty friendly with him,
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even though they were divorced.
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[Narrator] When the detectives ask Marty
where she was when Steven was killed,
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she tells them she
was in Las Vegas.
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However, when the detective
asked about credit card receipts,
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she had said that she used a
friend’s credit card for this trip
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and that she had
stopped for gas.
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They were trying to find out
where she stayed in Las Vegas.
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She said she had
picked up a couple of guys
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and entertained
them for the evening,
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so she didn’t have
to pay for a room.
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During the whole time that they’re
interviewing her and questioning her,
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they’re trying to establish
some kind of physical link
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between her and the crime scene.
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They ideally want DNA evidence
that would link her to the crime.
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[Narrator] So, the
detectives take Marty to lunch.
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[Bess] There’s this
long lunch in scottsdale.
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Every time she
goes to the bathroom,
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they are taking her cigarette
butts out of the ash tray,
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because they’re hoping to
get DNA evidence from that,
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that would link her
to steve’s trailer.
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But they’re not successful.
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They’re not able to link her back to
the crime scene in any physical way.
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[Narrator] Still, Marty does
little to convince the detectives
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that she is not involved
in her ex-husband’s death.
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Marty brought up that
she still had life insurance.
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She was the beneficiary
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of steve’s life insurance
policy for $150,000.
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[Narrator] Police know that
marty’s story is barely holding up
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and deserves more investigation.
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But ed Hopkins has another
equally bizarre observation.
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He’s sure that Marty
is flirting with him.
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[Stemler] The conversation
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was very flirtatious on marty’s
part towards ed Hopkins.
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[Narrator] Detective
Hopkins returns to bothell
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and Marty continues
to contact him there.
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[Bess] She calls him
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and starts volunteering extra
information about the case.
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She is acting almost like she is a
member of the investigation team,
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rather than a potential suspect
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and she is in constant
communication with Hopkins
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who is very aware of the
fact that she’s attracted to him.
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[Narrator] So, ed
returns to mesa
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and to Marty.
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[Kim] Marty drives
a Nissan pathfinder
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and she coincidentally
had had it in for service
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shortly before
Steve was murdered.
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What detectives
later would find out
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is that her vehicle had
excess mileage on it,
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because she had taken it in for
another service about a month later,
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after the murder had taken place
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and they could see the
difference in mileage.
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Now, she claimed that she had taken
a road trip to Las Vegas or something,
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but there just wasn’t, you know,
anything to say that that was accurate.
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Didn’t add up. There
was 3,100 miles
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difference in a very
short period of time
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and that’s consistent
with driving up to bothell,
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not consistent with driving
to Las Vegas and back.
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Detectives were starting to
gather all these little pieces together.
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Inconsistent
statements by Marty,
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the mileage on the vehicle,
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other discrepancies in
what Marty was telling them,
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but none of that added up to
enough for to make an arrest,
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or even to pursue search
warrants for other things.
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They needed something solid and
tangible that they could work with.
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[Kim] Detective denning in mesa,
has his suspicions about Marty
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and he decides to put
her under surveillance.
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And he’s recording
all of her conversations,
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including the ones
that she is having
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with detective
Hopkins from bothell.
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[Bess] They were
listening to her phone calls,
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they were getting her on audio,
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they were getting her on video.
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[Narrator] And Marty
isn’t the only one
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who looks like she
has something to hide.
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[Narrator] Just what
is ed Hopkins up to?
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[Policeman talking over radio]
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[Narrator] Police
in mesa, Arizona,
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have put Marty Malone
under surveillance,
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but it’s detective ed Hopkins
who is raising eyebrows.
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He starts saying that
he is unhappy with his life
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in the bothell
police department,
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wants to leave rainy
Seattle, move to Arizona.
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Ed is telling her he needs a change
from bothell police department.
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He likes it in Arizona. He
wants to move down there
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and so, he’s willing to do that,
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and is asking about
ways to make that happen.
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She starts saying she
can maybe get him a job
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with some of her connections
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and a friendship develops
between the two of them.
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Although, she probably wanted
more than just a friendship.
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[Narrator] Ed even starts bad-mouthing
his new Arizona partner, Tom denning.
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The last thing you want to see
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is your partner getting close to a
suspect in a murder investigation.
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[Narrator] Just how much did people
know about the real ed Hopkins?
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I’ve known ed for a long time.
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He’s very social,
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he could connect
with you right away
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and he can strike up a
conversation with anybody.
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There wasn’t anything in ed’s past
that would have raised suspicions,
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so it was very strange to watch
him growing closer to Marty.
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[Stemler] As prosecutors,
we’re always concerned
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about the way
investigations are conducted.
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So, it’s prohibited for detectives
to have sexual relationships
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with informants
or things like that.
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[Narrator] Especially, when
their flirtatious conversations
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turn to details about the case.
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As they’re growing closer, she starts
asking him about what’s going on in the case
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and he starts giving her
updates, which is a real no-no.
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[Narrator] That’s when ed
drops a bombshell on Marty,
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that he already knows
she’s guilty of killing Steve.
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[Narrator] Why hasn’t
ed turned her in already?
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Just what is he after?
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[Narrator] Bothell, Washington
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police detective, ed Hopkins,
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has been investigating
Marty Malone
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for the death of her
ex-husband, Steven ver woert.
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Since his arrival
in mesa, Arizona,
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he seems to be more interested in
helping Marty to get away with murder.
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Between February
20th and the 23rd or so,
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ed and Marty are having a
lot of different conversations.
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During the time period,
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detective denning, consistent
with what they do in Arizona,
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recorded all these
conversations.
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[Narrator] Just who
is ed being loyal to,
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the case or the killer?
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Seemed like detective Hopkins
might be, like, crossing the line?
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Obviously, in hearing all of this,
detective denning wanted to learn more
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and wanted to figure out what
was really going on between them.
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[Narrator] That’s when Marty starts
talking about the missing murder weapon.
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[Narrator] Detective Hopkins offers to
help make marty’s legal problems go away,
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for a cut of the action.
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Ed is letting her know that he’s willing
to leave bothell police department,
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that he’s willing to take
steps to come down here,
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but he wants to be
taken care of financially,
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he wants the money,
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that it’ll work out between them
if the money is all taken care of.
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The first thing that
detective Hopkins wanted
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was a Harley-Davidson
motorcycle.
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She agreed to that, no problem.
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He was done up in bothell,
he wanted to move to Arizona,
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he wanted to ride off
on a Harley with her.
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They just needed to get a
few things figured out first.
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It’s a convincing argument.
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[Narrator] So,
Marty finally relents
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and tells ed what really
happened that night.
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And it started with a man she met
in an Arizona bar named John Curtis.
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[Stemler] They’re in a bar.
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There’s a sign on
the wall that says,
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"some people are alive only because
it’s against the law to kill them."
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That started the conversation between Marty
and John about killing Steve ver woert.
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Marty ends up convincing
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Jonathan Curtis to
commit the murder.
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Initially, it was
supposed to take place
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in Arizona while Steve
was there at Christmas time
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and there was some wacky plan,
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where John was going to run him
off the road or something like that,
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that didn’t work out.
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So then, they changed the plan
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and decided to drive
up to bothell to kill Steve.
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Marty and John drove up in marty’s
vehicle from Arizona to bothell.
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They had driven to
bothell, she and Curtis.
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And when they arrived,
Steve was still at work,
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so they went to a
bar, the big foot tavern,
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and gambled for a while,
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and then, waited for
Steve to come home.
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Marty stayed in the car,
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while Jonathan Curtis hiked over to
the rv park and carried out the killing.
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[Stemler] Then, John
had walked back.
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Marty’s in the
vehicle, waiting for him.
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John gets in. He’s
very sweaty, smelly.
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Marty asks about the smell.
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John says, "haven’t
you ever been on a barn?
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That’s the smell of blood."
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And then, they go from there.
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They disposed of
jonathan’s bloody clothing,
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about 250 miles away
in Washington state.
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[Stemler] They threw
them in some dumpster,
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at some fast food
place on the way back.
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[Narrator] Marty tells Curtis,
she will pay him $25,000,
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once she gets ver woert’s
life insurance payout.
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But in the meantime, she tells
ed that Curtis is getting impatient.
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[Narrator] All of which leads
them to one big loose end.
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[Stemler] John is just a loose
end that could get her into trouble
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and she decided she liked ed
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and wanted ed Hopkins to
take care of that problem for her.
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[Kim] We know that
Steve had a couple
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of life insurance
policies on him
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that Marty was
hoping to cash in on.
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And so, she was going to use part of
that money to pay Jonathan for killing him.
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Now that she was talking with the
detective, she said, "you know what?
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Let’s get rid of Jonathan. Tell you what?
Forget about the $25,000 for Jonathan.
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I want to give that to
you, detective Hopkins.
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And not only that $25,000,
but an additional $50,000,
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if you’ll get rid of Jonathan."
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[Narrator] Ed Hopkins
and Marty Malone
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are forming an uneasy alliance.
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[Narrator] But police in mesa
are listening to every last detail.
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00:31:44,035 --> 00:31:47,005
[Bess] After they come
up with a plan to kill Curtis,
468
00:31:47,038 --> 00:31:49,608
ed says, "I have
a surprise for you.
469
00:31:49,641 --> 00:31:53,341
I’ve got flowers for you
in the trunk of the car."
470
00:31:53,378 --> 00:31:54,678
And she’s all excited.
471
00:32:09,761 --> 00:32:12,761
[Bess] And then, all the cops
surround the car with their guns drawn.
472
00:32:15,233 --> 00:32:17,303
The detectives in
the other vehicle
473
00:32:17,335 --> 00:32:21,405
were listening in to this
conversation as it was developing.
474
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,710
They knew that they had the
information that they needed
475
00:32:24,743 --> 00:32:27,583
in order to make an arrest for
the murder of Steve ver woert.
476
00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:32,724
I think this was a total
surprise to Marty, this arrest.
477
00:32:32,751 --> 00:32:36,991
I think she believed that she and ed Hopkins
were going to have this great life together,
478
00:32:37,022 --> 00:32:39,322
with money that she had
been looking forward to getting,
479
00:32:39,357 --> 00:32:43,187
and then, the world came
crashing down on her.
480
00:32:43,228 --> 00:32:46,858
[Narrator] That’s because there’s
one fatal flaw with marty’s plan.
481
00:32:46,898 --> 00:32:50,498
Detective ed Hopkins has been
working with detective denning
482
00:32:50,535 --> 00:32:53,565
to investigate Marty
this entire time.
483
00:32:53,605 --> 00:32:56,815
He’s wearing a wire to
capture her confession on tape.
484
00:32:57,876 --> 00:33:00,236
In this particular case, I
was the lucky guy, right?
485
00:33:00,278 --> 00:33:02,578
I got to have the
fun part, so to speak.
486
00:33:02,614 --> 00:33:04,884
My name is Edward Hopkins.
487
00:33:04,916 --> 00:33:06,416
I’m a retired police detective
488
00:33:06,451 --> 00:33:09,751
from the bothell police
department in Washington state.
489
00:33:09,788 --> 00:33:13,588
I had an opportunity to
investigate Marty Malone.
490
00:33:13,625 --> 00:33:16,735
[Narrator] And it all
starts on a hunch.
491
00:33:16,761 --> 00:33:19,231
When detective denning
and I went to marty’s house,
492
00:33:19,264 --> 00:33:20,874
the way she acted,
493
00:33:20,899 --> 00:33:22,469
that was something in my mind
494
00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:26,471
that there was more to her
than we originally suspected.
495
00:33:26,505 --> 00:33:28,315
We both noticed it.
496
00:33:28,340 --> 00:33:31,280
She was overtly friendly
from the very beginning.
497
00:33:31,309 --> 00:33:33,439
She hugged us at the
mesa police department,
498
00:33:33,478 --> 00:33:36,308
she’s hugging me
at this restaurant.
499
00:33:36,348 --> 00:33:40,278
A family member or a friend
of a person who’s been killed,
500
00:33:40,318 --> 00:33:41,748
you’ve delivered
this news to them
501
00:33:41,786 --> 00:33:45,386
and it’s not unusual for them to
give you a hug or you to hug them,
502
00:33:45,423 --> 00:33:49,663
in sort of a compassionate way
of showing your concern for them.
503
00:33:49,694 --> 00:33:53,004
But that was not the type
of hug that Marty was giving.
504
00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:55,631
She was overtly friendly
505
00:33:56,835 --> 00:33:58,975
and, I thought,
somewhat flirtatious.
506
00:34:04,109 --> 00:34:06,509
Detective Hopkins
realized quickly
507
00:34:06,545 --> 00:34:10,185
that Marty had a
romantic interest in him.
508
00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:13,083
[Ed] She wants to win me over
509
00:34:13,118 --> 00:34:14,618
to get my cooperation
510
00:34:14,653 --> 00:34:15,623
in getting the
death certificate,
511
00:34:15,654 --> 00:34:18,324
help her further
complete her plan.
512
00:34:18,356 --> 00:34:20,256
Just something
about that told me that
513
00:34:20,292 --> 00:34:23,862
I could try to use
an investigative ruse.
514
00:34:23,895 --> 00:34:25,325
It’s very unorthodox.
515
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,599
[Ed] I contacted my supervisors
516
00:34:30,635 --> 00:34:32,665
and sort of laid
out the strategy
517
00:34:32,704 --> 00:34:37,514
that i’m going to portray myself as
being unhappy as a police officer,
518
00:34:37,542 --> 00:34:39,142
and i’m going to
519
00:34:40,412 --> 00:34:42,852
suggest that I might
want to move to Arizona.
520
00:34:42,881 --> 00:34:45,321
Supervisors are good with it,
the prosecutor is good with it,
521
00:34:45,350 --> 00:34:48,990
everybody is on board
with that general framework.
522
00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:52,560
The rest is to be determined
as we move along.
523
00:34:52,591 --> 00:34:54,402
[Bess] She thought that
she was playing the police
524
00:34:54,426 --> 00:34:57,026
and, in fact, they were
playing her the whole time.
525
00:34:59,564 --> 00:35:02,134
[Ed] No way to know at the
outset if it was going to work.
526
00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:04,997
It was all just improvisation.
527
00:35:05,036 --> 00:35:09,036
It was all a make it up
as you go kind of situation.
528
00:35:09,074 --> 00:35:11,218
You’re trying to make sure you
get all the information you can,
529
00:35:11,242 --> 00:35:13,612
but there comes a point
where you have to stop, right?
530
00:35:14,346 --> 00:35:16,076
So, the arrest signal was that
531
00:35:16,114 --> 00:35:18,724
I was going to tell her I
had flowers for her in the car.
532
00:35:19,684 --> 00:35:22,054
I had... "I got
something for you."
533
00:35:22,087 --> 00:35:24,657
And she said, "what?"
I said, "flowers."
534
00:35:24,689 --> 00:35:27,789
And she said, "oh,
ed, I love flowers!"
535
00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:33,197
At this point, she was
100 percent believing me.
536
00:35:33,231 --> 00:35:37,971
The arrest team runs up
and she’s yelling, "ed! Ed!"
537
00:35:38,903 --> 00:35:40,403
She’s calling my name,
538
00:35:40,438 --> 00:35:45,208
as if she thinks that i’m going to
somehow intervene or rescue her.
539
00:35:45,243 --> 00:35:48,713
And I don’t think she, at
that point, had figured it out.
540
00:35:48,747 --> 00:35:51,277
I walked over to her and I said,
541
00:35:51,316 --> 00:35:54,716
"yeah, I can’t help you.
You’re under arrest for murder.
542
00:35:54,753 --> 00:35:58,923
I took an oath to uphold the law
and you are, you’re a suspect here.
543
00:35:58,957 --> 00:35:59,957
You’re going to jail."
544
00:36:00,492 --> 00:36:01,762
And, um,
545
00:36:01,793 --> 00:36:03,093
then I walked away from her.
546
00:36:07,399 --> 00:36:10,269
After they arrested
Marty Malone in the car,
547
00:36:10,301 --> 00:36:12,741
when she confessed her
involvement in the murder,
548
00:36:12,771 --> 00:36:15,071
they took her to the
mesa police department
549
00:36:15,106 --> 00:36:16,236
and interviewed her there.
550
00:36:20,512 --> 00:36:22,312
[Tom] Let’s back up
a couple steps, okay?
551
00:36:22,347 --> 00:36:23,807
Because I know that right now,
552
00:36:23,848 --> 00:36:25,493
I know this doesn’t
happen to you every day.
553
00:36:25,517 --> 00:36:26,727
- Yeah.
- [Tom] And I know that your head is probably
554
00:36:26,751 --> 00:36:28,262
spinning in a lot of
different directions.
555
00:36:28,286 --> 00:36:30,464
- Well, no, but I know what’s...
- [Tom] I know you know...
556
00:36:30,488 --> 00:36:32,118
I know why i’d be
wrong, for god’s sake.
557
00:36:32,157 --> 00:36:33,287
[Tom] Why don’t we back up.
558
00:36:33,324 --> 00:36:34,969
- You were contacted, let’s start with that.
- Mmm-hmm.
559
00:36:34,993 --> 00:36:37,663
- [Tom] Let’s start with...
- Let’s start with a cigarette.
560
00:36:37,696 --> 00:36:38,896
I don’t think we can.
561
00:36:38,930 --> 00:36:40,400
Just keep going.
562
00:36:40,432 --> 00:36:42,472
Ed, you’ve talked to
me how many times?
563
00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:44,070
We’ve talked outside before
564
00:36:44,102 --> 00:36:46,942
- and I mean, I am not stupid.
- [Ed] Okay, I understand.
565
00:36:46,971 --> 00:36:50,741
- Let’s get the meat and potatoes out first...
- all right. Okay.
566
00:36:50,775 --> 00:36:52,305
- [Ed] Tell you what?
- And then?
567
00:36:52,343 --> 00:36:56,683
[Ed] We’ll take a break, we’ll go
down, we’ll have a smoke break outside,
568
00:36:56,715 --> 00:36:57,958
- where...
- That’s where it’s legal.
569
00:36:57,982 --> 00:37:00,452
- [Ed] And then, we come back up and...
- now.
570
00:37:00,485 --> 00:37:01,855
[Ed] Clear this all up.
571
00:37:01,886 --> 00:37:05,156
Regardless, here’s another
question. Regardless of what I tell you,
572
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:07,990
i’m still going to be booked
and all that here, tonight?
573
00:37:08,026 --> 00:37:11,626
[Narrator] Marty tries to downplay
her involvement in the killing.
574
00:37:11,663 --> 00:37:13,863
I’m not going to say
anything other than the truth,
575
00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:15,698
but i’ll tell you this,
576
00:37:16,401 --> 00:37:19,841
I do not feel responsible
577
00:37:19,871 --> 00:37:20,971
for his death.
578
00:37:21,005 --> 00:37:22,605
So, i’m telling you the truth.
579
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,851
- [Ed] Let’s stop.
- Hold on, okay?
580
00:37:23,875 --> 00:37:26,315
- I’m just frustrated...
- Hold on, hold on.
581
00:37:26,344 --> 00:37:28,554
[Ed] Marty, let’s
stop here, okay.
582
00:37:29,047 --> 00:37:30,647
What...
583
00:37:30,682 --> 00:37:34,452
I can see the pattern that
you’re going in right now, okay?
584
00:37:34,486 --> 00:37:38,516
And I know you’re scared and I know
you’re nervous and I know you’re upset.
585
00:37:38,556 --> 00:37:41,326
Okay? But now is a
very crucial moment.
586
00:37:41,359 --> 00:37:44,999
Now it’s a crucial time to
say, "hey, I made a mistake
587
00:37:45,029 --> 00:37:47,829
and here’s what happened,
588
00:37:47,866 --> 00:37:51,166
and here’s the way it
happened." And lay it out for us.
589
00:37:51,202 --> 00:37:52,802
When Marty Malone revealed
590
00:37:52,837 --> 00:37:56,137
that Jonathan Curtis was the
person who committed the murder,
591
00:37:56,174 --> 00:37:59,584
obviously, detectives were very
anxious to take him into custody.
592
00:37:59,611 --> 00:38:01,351
John was arrested at his house,
593
00:38:01,379 --> 00:38:02,379
a short time later.
594
00:38:07,085 --> 00:38:09,595
John Curtis worked
in construction.
595
00:38:09,621 --> 00:38:13,191
He claimed to be a
former police officer.
596
00:38:13,224 --> 00:38:17,264
But it turned out that a lot of what
Jonathan Curtis had told Marty Malone
597
00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:18,295
was not true.
598
00:38:19,798 --> 00:38:21,368
Initially, both,
599
00:38:21,399 --> 00:38:23,029
Marty Malone and Jonathan Curtis
600
00:38:23,067 --> 00:38:25,567
were charged with
aggravated first-degree murder.
601
00:38:25,603 --> 00:38:27,173
That’s the only
crime in Washington
602
00:38:27,205 --> 00:38:29,275
that has the potential
of the death penalty.
603
00:38:29,307 --> 00:38:31,607
Marty blamed Jonathan Curtis,
604
00:38:31,643 --> 00:38:35,213
Jonathan Curtis said Marty committed
the murder and he didn’t know about it.
605
00:38:35,246 --> 00:38:37,546
So, they were pointing
the finger at each other.
606
00:38:39,384 --> 00:38:42,194
We took some steps
to try to corroborate
607
00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:44,860
the truth of what one was
saying versus the other
608
00:38:44,889 --> 00:38:47,729
and we believed that marty’s
statements were accurate,
609
00:38:47,759 --> 00:38:51,259
and that john’s were not about
how the murder was committed.
610
00:38:51,296 --> 00:38:56,066
Ultimately, we worked with
Marty malone’s attorney and
611
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:58,870
she had to agree to do interviews
and provide more information,
612
00:38:58,903 --> 00:39:03,043
before we ultimately agreed to reduce
her charge and allow her to plead guilty
613
00:39:03,074 --> 00:39:06,414
to something other than
aggravated first-degree murder.
614
00:39:06,444 --> 00:39:10,614
[Narrator] But the questions surrounding
Marty Malone do not end there.
615
00:39:10,648 --> 00:39:13,048
[Kim] Marty has
an interesting past.
616
00:39:13,084 --> 00:39:17,664
In addition to Steve, she had
two other ex-husbands who died
617
00:39:17,689 --> 00:39:19,989
under somewhat
mysterious circumstances
618
00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:23,664
and were quickly cremated
so autopsies couldn’t be done.
619
00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:25,265
[Stemler] The most
recent husband,
620
00:39:25,296 --> 00:39:29,596
before she met Steve, was only 43
years old when he died of a heart attack.
621
00:39:29,634 --> 00:39:32,904
She was the sole
beneficiary of his estate
622
00:39:32,937 --> 00:39:35,467
and she spent that
money very freely,
623
00:39:35,506 --> 00:39:39,836
including giving it out to friends
at the bars around scottsdale.
624
00:39:39,878 --> 00:39:42,308
Ultimately, we were
never able to prove
625
00:39:42,347 --> 00:39:45,617
whether she had any
involvement in their deaths.
626
00:39:45,650 --> 00:39:49,520
[Narrator] John Curtis, meanwhile,
comes up with a plan of his own.
627
00:39:49,554 --> 00:39:51,294
[Kim] While he’s in jail,
628
00:39:51,322 --> 00:39:55,332
John decides, he’s going to try
to hire a fellow inmate to kill Marty,
629
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,430
so that he can get out of it.
630
00:39:57,462 --> 00:39:59,432
[Stemler] Instead, what
that individual does,
631
00:39:59,464 --> 00:40:02,834
is he takes that information
and provides it to the detectives
632
00:40:02,867 --> 00:40:05,837
and tries to work
out a deal for himself.
633
00:40:05,870 --> 00:40:08,670
Marty Malone did testify
at John curtis’s trial.
634
00:40:09,474 --> 00:40:11,984
The jury found that John Curtis
635
00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:15,550
was guilty of aggravated first-degree
murder for killing Steve ver woert
636
00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:18,880
and he ended up with life
imprisonment without possibility of parole.
637
00:40:18,917 --> 00:40:23,687
[Narrator] Marty Malone ultimately
pleads guilty to first degree murder.
638
00:40:23,721 --> 00:40:26,221
The judge followed the
prosecutor’s recommendation
639
00:40:26,257 --> 00:40:28,327
and imposed 23 years in prison.
640
00:40:37,936 --> 00:40:40,466
[Ed] It’s kind of a
strange emotion because
641
00:40:40,505 --> 00:40:42,675
you’re thrilled
that this is working
642
00:40:42,707 --> 00:40:44,807
and you want to
feel joy about that,
643
00:40:44,842 --> 00:40:48,982
but you really can’t, right? You might
be able to high-five like, "we got her."
644
00:40:49,013 --> 00:40:50,653
But you can’t really feel happy,
645
00:40:50,682 --> 00:40:54,122
because the whole reason we’re
there is because somebody was killed.
646
00:40:56,587 --> 00:40:58,317
And I had met with
647
00:40:58,356 --> 00:41:01,056
steve’s parents, his
brother and sister-in-law,
648
00:41:01,092 --> 00:41:03,432
his first wife, his son,
649
00:41:04,262 --> 00:41:05,262
his friends,
650
00:41:05,863 --> 00:41:08,773
I felt connected to them.
651
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,000
I remember walking down the
sidewalk and talking to his son,
652
00:41:12,036 --> 00:41:14,406
trying to kind of
explain, you know,
653
00:41:14,439 --> 00:41:17,039
what I could explain to a child.
654
00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:21,415
You can’t experience that and
not feel that, right? You just can’t.
655
00:41:23,381 --> 00:41:27,121
I’m grateful to have been
able to work this case
656
00:41:27,151 --> 00:41:29,421
and... and see it through,
657
00:41:29,454 --> 00:41:33,524
um, but i’m extremely
appreciative of all the people
658
00:41:33,558 --> 00:41:35,388
that I got to work with.
659
00:41:35,426 --> 00:41:38,026
It’s an important
thing to have that,
660
00:41:38,062 --> 00:41:39,562
that teamwork that we had.
661
00:41:41,733 --> 00:41:45,443
It was a tremendous relief to know
that they were from out of state,
662
00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:49,910
that it was not local folks
involved in such a heinous crime,
663
00:41:51,242 --> 00:41:53,112
that they can trust
their neighbors.
664
00:41:54,912 --> 00:41:58,252
[Mike] As a person who lived
in the town, I was very happy.
665
00:41:58,282 --> 00:42:03,052
You know, I take it personal when
something like this happens in my town.
666
00:42:03,087 --> 00:42:04,887
I raised my children there,
667
00:42:04,922 --> 00:42:06,322
I grew up there
668
00:42:06,357 --> 00:42:08,487
and so, when we
caught Marty Malone
669
00:42:08,526 --> 00:42:11,326
and we got her
arrested and she’s in jail,
670
00:42:11,362 --> 00:42:13,802
that was a real good feeling
671
00:42:13,831 --> 00:42:16,171
to know that justice was served.
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