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[Narrator] When a beloved
new england woman is murdered,
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a young man decides
to go undercover
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to snare the killer.
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[Audio recording]
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[Narrator] But is this
an elaborate deception
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to throw detectives
off his trail?
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[Audio recording]
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[Narrator] In this dangerous
game of cat and mouse,
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who is predator,
and who is prey?
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[Audio recording]
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Jim, this is detective
sergeant... with the... Case.
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[Narrator] Undercover work
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is some of the riskiest
in law enforcement.
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[Detective] ’kay,
she’s out of the car.
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Okay, good deal,
good deal, good deal.
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[Narrator] One wrong move...
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[Police sirens]
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[Narrator] ...Can cost a life.
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[Officer] Police! Don’t move!
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[Narrator] In rare situations,
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everyday people go
undercover in search of the truth.
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They’re willing to risk it all.
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Even taking down
friends and family.
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This isn’t the movies, I
had to actually do this.
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[Narrator] Doing the right thing
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has never been so dangerous.
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Norton is a very small,
tight-knit community.
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It’s about 30 miles
south of Boston.
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So, norton’s basically
like a bedroom community
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to Boston and Providence,
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and have about 19,000
people that live in town.
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It’s a good school system.
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We have, uh, wheaton
college, a small college.
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It’s a blue collar, uh,
working class town,
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uh, a lot of middle
class families,
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a lot of families in general.
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Yeah, it was a fantastic
place to grow up.
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[Rock music playing]
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I was only 19, 20 years old.
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I was still trying to figure
out what I wanted to do
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with my career,
my life, everything.
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I played the keyboards.
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I had some experience through
other bands that I was working with,
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and had a good amount of
live stage experience with that,
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so by the time it came
to do my own project,
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I wanted to have
complete creative control.
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I started a solo project called
"ekm" or "electronic kill machine".
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I recorded my first album,
which was doing fairly well
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and actually starting to sell,
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and I decided that I
needed to incorporate
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more live musicians as to
opposed to just myself on stage.
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I did hear some of the music,
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and it was, like, thrash
metal, you might describe it as
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or definitely heavy
metal, fast-paced,
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they didn’t play ballads.
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[Jim] I decided to kinda
recruit some of my closer friends
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that I knew I could trust.
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[Narrator] Fresh
out of high school,
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Jim first turns to his
best friend, Jason Weir,
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a skilled base player he’s
known since childhood.
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He quickly said
to me, he’s like,
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"I wanna try and learn drums,"
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i’m like, "all right." [Laughs]
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"All right, let’s do it, man."
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[Laughing]
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To my surprise, he
was actually quite good,
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and he could read
music appropriately,
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and he could do what
I needed him to do,
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and so I said, "okay,
well, this will work."
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[Narrator] The band
already has a guitarist,
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but Jason suggests they
bring in Anthony calabro,
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a former classmate.
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While Anthony doesn’t
play any instruments,
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he has a great
head for business,
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and can set up
gigs for the band.
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He had no experience
managing anything.
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I was looking for a guy
that could handle more
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of the logistics of
setting things up.
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He seemed more
than willing to do that,
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so, it kinda worked out.
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[Narrator] Next
up is Thomas lally,
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another former classmate.
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[Jim] Tom knew
Anthony and Jason,
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and he kinda brought
both of them into my life
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and into our
mutual friend circle.
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So, he’s like, "okay, well, if
there’s any sort of need for security,"
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which there wasn’t... [Chuckles]
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we’d have him involved.
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He’d get in line with promoters,
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get in line with,
uh, club owners,
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make sure things were set up.
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Typical American
teens, you know,
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they’re in to playing
music, uh, listening to music,
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you know, partying and
hanging around with friends,
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just like, uh...
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Who doesn’t like music?
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Well, all four Norton
boys went to Norton high.
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It’s a small town,
everybody knows everybody.
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Everybody gets along
with each other there.
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Jason was the one I was the
closest with out of all of the three.
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Jason is a couple
years younger than I am,
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and his personality was
a little bit more outgoing.
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He was a little bit more
willing to put himself out there,
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but always in a
fairly respectful way.
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Anthony seemed a little
bit more on the drier side.
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He was very much
right to business.
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He was tall, he always
had his hair in a ponytail.
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He used to wear
a black trench coat.
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Thomas lally was kind
of a big kid at the time,
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a kind of bully.
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[Jim] Tom was a big guy,
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however, his looks were more
intimidating than he actually was.
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Uh, Tom was actually
kind of a big softy,
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he was a big
Teddy bear of a guy,
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uh, he’d literally give you the
shirt off his back if he could.
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[Narrator] Jim and the
band are primed for success
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with Jason on drums,
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Anthony managing the business,
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and Tom providing security.
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And though their thrash metal
music is raw and aggressive,
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the kids have no history
causing any trouble with the law.
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They weren’t known
as troublemakers.
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[Narrator] Anthony does
have trouble at home, though.
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After one too many
fights with his parents,
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his great aunt, Marina
calabro, takes him in.
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Not only does she
cook and clean for him,
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but soon enough, Jason and Thomas
are also hanging out at the house.
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[Keenan] Marina calabro
was a lovely woman.
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She was well respected by her
community and by the neighbors.
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She took pride in her property.
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Marina calabro’s house
was in a nice neighborhood
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up on hospital hill
section of Quincy.
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[Linton] She was unmarried,
took care of her younger siblings,
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and took care of her mother
as her mother grew old
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until her mother passed away.
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She took in Anthony,
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and then his friends
moved into the house.
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She would cook for
them, support the band,
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gave them money,
and, by all accounts,
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she treated
Anthony like her son.
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[Narrator] With
marina’s guiding hand,
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Anthony seems to be
getting his life back on track.
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Then tragedy strikes.
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[Phone ringing]
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[Dispatch officer]
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[Keenan] December 19th, 2001,
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the Quincy police received a
phone call just before midnight
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that a woman had passed away.
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Anthony was looking
for his great aunt, Marina,
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and he called downstairs
to see if his grandmother,
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Anne-Marie, knew where
she was. She did not.
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He then called his father
at his home in Plymouth,
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and see if he knew
where Marina was,
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but he also did not,
he suggested that they
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check the stairs, and
check the hallway.
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At that point, he had
gone down the stairs
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and found her at the
bottom of the stairs.
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She was cold, so Anthony
calabro then called 911.
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[Phone ringing]
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She was at the bottom of the
stairs in like a landing or a platform.
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It appeared that she
had fallen down the steps
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attempting to put out the trash.
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There was a trash bag that was
located next to her deceased body.
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I responded along with
members of the state police,
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crime scene services
unit, and, uh, detective unit
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out of the Norfolk county
district attorney’s office.
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They photographed the
scene, they viewed the body,
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they wrapped the
woman’s hands in plastic
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to preserve fingerprints
or any kind of evidence
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that would be found
underneath the fingernails.
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They brought her to the
chief medical examiner’s office
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for an autopsy.
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They determined that
she had taken a fall,
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it was a result of the fall,
it was what he determined
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was a broken neck that
had caused her, uh, death.
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It was just a sad, tragic
thing for everyone involved.
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[Clark] A young kid
freshly out of high school
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came in on a Sunday
evening on October 13th, 2002,
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where he was greeted
by the desk officer.
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When he came in, he reported
that he had information about a crime.
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And I just walked up,
banged on the glass,
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i’m like, "I guess I
have a murder to report."
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Well, it’s certainly
very unusual, you know,
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certainly in a bedroom
community, it doesn’t really happen.
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Especially involving
three Norton kids.
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The front desk lady, she’s like,
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"all right, just
fill out this form."
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Jim morel was in his late teens,
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nice young kid.
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[Clark] We get him out of
the lobby into a private location
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that we can talk to
with no interruptions,
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so, we have an interview room outside
of detectives that we brought him into.
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He received information
about a murder.
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He wasn’t there, he
just wanted to get it off,
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and do the right
thing, and report it.
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[Jim] It was a Sunday, and, uh,
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Jason and myself decided to
go out and just grab some dinner,
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and that’s when Jay dropped
everything on me, and he says,
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"there’s something
you gotta know, man,
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Marina didn’t exactly
die on her own."
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[Narrator] When
Marina calabro dies,
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she leaves all of her
money and her home
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to two heirs.
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[Keenan] Her estate was
to be split by her nephew,
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David calabro, and his
son, Anthony calabro.
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They wound up splitting the
finances that were in the bank account,
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I think that was over $200,000.
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And then they split the sale of the
home, which was over $500,000.
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So it was to be an equal split
according to the will between those two.
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The word got around
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that he had a substantial amount
of money due to, you know, the will.
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But the thing with Anthony is
he always seemed to have cash.
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Even when Marina was alive,
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like, he had new cars, he
always had money for things.
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He always had, like, nice clothes.
He was very well taken care of.
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I don’t think I really noticed
right away, any difference in cash.
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After anthony’s aunt died, it was
kinda weird seein’ him drive a corvette.
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Somethin’ flashy, like that.
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I mean, it makes sense. His aunt passed
away, and he inherited some money.
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You know, if I inherited quite a bit a sum
of money even when I was a 16-yeard-old kid,
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I might have bought
a nice corvette, myself.
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But he also splurged
on his friends.
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He bought thousands of
dollars of equipment for the band.
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He, you know, spent
his money freely.
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[Narrator] When Jim
walks into the police station,
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he says his day started
ordinarily enough.
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Jason and myself
went to a restaurant,
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and we were just sitting
down, ordering our meal.
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Kinda just talking about things for the
band, and just how we wanted to move forward.
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And, um, that’s when Jay
dropped everything on me,
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he says, "there’s somethin’
you gotta know, man."
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Marina didn’t exactly
die on her own.
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I didn’t really understand
exactly what that meant.
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But I started thinking, okay, was she on
some sorta drugs, what exactly happened?
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Because my understanding
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was that she fell down the
stairs, and that’s how she passed.
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Finally, Jay told me the basics
of his story of what happened.
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[Narrator] Jason reveals that
Marina didn’t fall down the stairs.
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She was placed there.
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Marina had been killed
in her kitchen by Tom lally.
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[Jim] The first
thing that I thought
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was this has gotta
be some kind a joke.
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There’s absolutely no way
they did somethin’ like this,
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and for whatever reason,
Jay is messing with me.
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I’m thinking, "is this real?
Is he screwing with me?"
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[Narrator] Jason assures him
that not only did he see it happen,
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Anthony calabro, marina’s
nephew, was also a witness.
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[Jim] They kinda
felt bad for me,
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because it’d be just
a messed up situation
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just to walk in a room,
and see that happening.
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And then just not
knowing what to do.
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I don’t know, honestly, I felt
bad, and I was afraid for him.
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After thinking for a couple hours,
I finally decide I can’t live with this.
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If you know somethin’ like
that, you got two options.
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You can either live with
it for the rest of your life,
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you can know that secret, and
you can take it to your grave.
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But that’s gonna do something to you,
that’s gonna change you as a core person.
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And I know this because I kept
that secret for about three hours.
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And what it did for me for three
hours was it really ate at me.
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I went to the police, and
that’s when it all began.
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[Tatz] James morel walked
into the Norton police station,
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and said he wanted to report a murder, and
the murder was in Quincy, Massachusetts.
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[Clark] One of the
first things we do
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is reach out to Quincy, and
say, "hey, did this occur?"
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And Quincy did say that Marina did
pass away, fell down a set of stairs.
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[Keenan] When we first encounter
Jim, he looked very nervous.
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He was a young kid that had
a tall tale, and a big story to tell.
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[Jim] I thought I was
gonna fill out a paper thing,
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and then just go
home that night,
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and be, like, "okay
well, I did my part."
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Little did I know.
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[Keenan] Morel
described the night,
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and what Weir had told
him, in kinda generalities.
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He didn’t have specifics as to how
it happened, and when it happened,
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or murder weapons, or how
the actual homicide took place.
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[Narrator] Police find jim’s story
to be suspiciously short on details.
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[Jim] I’m like, here’s my
story, here’s what happened.
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I just found out about this.
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Go interrogate him, go talk to him,
he’ll probably tell you what happened.
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But they were tryin’ to
get more and more details
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out of me that I
just did not have.
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Normally, when someone comes
in to report something like that,
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you want to make
sure, initially,
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that you checked their veracity,
make sure that they’re truthful.
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Ten months had passed, I don’t
know what I was doin’ that day,
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I don’t know what was goin’ on.
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The conversation was
shifting and changing.
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And I could feel that, like, "okay,
this guy’s kind of interrogating me."
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They don’t believe
that i’m telling the truth.
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This guy thinks that i’m just
trying to save my own ass.
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[Tatz] Maybe he was gonna
to confess to something,
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and put the blame
on someone else.
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[Jim] And that’s when the
tone started to kinda changing,
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"well, you must have had
some sort of involvement in this.
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This sorta thing would have never
happened without you knowing."
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And i’m like, "well, now you’re
kinda putting words in my mouth here.
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And you don’t know me
from a hole in the wall, man."
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[Keenan] I think he
was a little bit nervous
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that we may have thought he
had some involvement in the case.
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[Jim] Then the detective, he’s like, "I
don’t know what it is about sundays,
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but for whatever reason, people
always confess on sundays."
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I told them, "well, you
can’t accuse me of this,
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like, i’m tryin’ to
help you guys out."
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[Tatz] Jim was probably thinking
that, "what the hell? What did I do?
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What did I get myself in?" You know, "now
they’re gonna charge me with something?
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[Jim] Well, I had to
immediately clear my name.
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That was my main concern.
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Finally, I said, "look, I can literally
just wear a wire, go to his house right now.
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And you can hear that I just
found out about this last night.
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I don’t want you to think that
I had anything to do with this."
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To my surprise, they’re like,
"all right, fine, we’ll do that."
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And i’m like, "all right."
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[Tatz] I think that may
have surprised the police.
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That someone they’re
interviewing on a murder
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is gonna volunteer to wear a wire,
and get the real killer to confess.
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[Keenan] We thought
that it was a good idea,
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so we wrote a search warrant to do the
wire interception, and we went from there.
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I was young and stupid.
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It was so stupid of
me not to get a lawyer.
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I’m tryin’ to clear my conscious,
now I gotta clear my name.
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[Keenan] It took us a couple a days, to
get an operation like that up and running.
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Getting the
equipment altogether,
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and then to make sure that
morel was good on board with it.
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I convinced the police
officers that if I wore a wire,
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you’d hear first hand that I had
just found out about this information,
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and I had nothing to do with this
murder, and that was my main goal.
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They set up this
wireless microphone thing.
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I remember it was about
the size of a deck a cards.
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With a thin wire that
runs up your shirt,
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and right to your sternum,
it’s kinda taped down.
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That’s when this
became very real,
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and I realized this isn’t the
movies, I have to actually do this.
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How do I do this?
What am I gonna say?
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Am I gonna screw this up completely?
What’s gonna happen if he finds out?
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Is there gonna be some
sort of physical altercation?
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[Narrator] Jim
morel is stressed.
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He’s about to have the most
consequential conversation of his life.
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And detective Paul Keenan
is listening to his every word.
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We were in a car behind, and
following him with another trooper.
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We were recording
the information
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in a recording device in
the backseat of the car.
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We were actually listening
live time to the conversation.
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We had visual on
them the entire time,
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but we could not communicate with either
one of them, especially with Jim morel.
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So it was a one
way conversation.
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There was no safe word,
there was no, like, "get out now."
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It’s not the movies, you know.
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[Jim] Jason picks me up from my
house after i’ve already been wired up.
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He said he needed to
pick up drummer gloves,
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and I said, "yeah,
sure, let’s go out."
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Immediately i’m thinking,
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"okay, let’s just get this
done, let’s get this over with."
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I’m probably sweating profusely,
who knows what I look like.
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Uh, Jay doesn’t seem to notice.
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I remember saying to him, "a couple days
ago, you told me something very disturbing."
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I still had the idea that maybe this
was all still some sort of just sick joke.
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Maybe he was
just pulling my leg.
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You have to understand, this guy
was still a very close friend of mine.
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I cared deeply for this guy.
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[Narrator] Jason
starts to give details
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on the nefarious
plot to kill Marina.
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It all begins on the afternoon
of December 19th, 2001.
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Thomas lally, Anthony
calabro, and Jason Weir
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are hanging out in marina’s
kitchen, as they often do.
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But this day is
anything but typical.
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And for Marina, it
will be her last day.
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[Narrator] That’s when
Anthony, or ant, exits the room.
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Leaving Jason to
witness what comes next.
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Jason talked about the murder
and told him that Tom lally
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whacked Marina over
the head with a frying pan
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while they were in
the apartment together.
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And that Anthony was
outside as the lookout.
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I did not expect that.
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[Linton] I can’t imagine
having that conversation.
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That takes some...
That takes some guts.
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[Narrator] Jim now has,
on-tape, the story of how
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Marina calabro was killed
in cold blood by Tom lally.
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It was a kind of a hard
pill to swallow, um...
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Cause...
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I didn’t think they’d be
capable of something like that.
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[Linton] They drove
around for quite a bit.
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With the police in
surveillance, listening in.
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[Jim] It’s like, all right,
i’m done. I did my part.
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And I don’t need to do any more.
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All that i’m concerned with at
this point is just clearing my name.
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That’s all I wanted to do.
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So I didn’t want to
go above and beyond.
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I didn’t want to dig
this guy’s grave.
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This guy was still a really
good friend of mine, you know?
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[Keenan] We need a little bit more.
We needed the murder weapons.
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The murder weapon’s always key,
because that ties everything together.
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[Jim] We decide to do
what we were planning to do,
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which was to, uh, get
some drummer gloves.
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We get to the store,
and jay’s going through
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and he’s looking at all the different
gloves that they offer for drummers.
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This guy comes
from around a corner,
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a man who i’d never seen before.
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And as he was walking
past me, he just said...
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keep him talkin’.
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Can we get into
it a little bit more?
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[Jim] The whole conversation
lasted no more than six seconds.
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He never looked me in the eye, and
walked by as if it had never happened.
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I remember being really shocked.
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Nobody told me there would be
an undercover officer waiting there,
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that was gonna come up and
try to communicate with me,
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while I was wearing
a wire in the middle
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of this whole thing,
and then just disappear.
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We get back in the truck.
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[Truck starting]
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And i’m thinking about what
that undercover officer said to me.
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I thought to myself, one of
two things is gonna happen.
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He’s going to believe me, and
we’re just gonna talk more about this,
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or, he’s gonna figure out
what i’m doing immediately.
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And it’s gonna...
It’s gonna end bad.
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Safety for him was one of our
key thoughts and considerations,
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because when things go bad if...
if they go bad quickly sometimes,
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and if he was discovered
to have had the wire...
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We didn’t know him that well,
how he would have reacted.
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To my surprise,
he opens up again.
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We’re driving and all of a
sudden, Jay gets a phone call.
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[Phone ringing]
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He’s yelling...
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[Jim] ...There seems to be some sort
of yelling match going back and forth.
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I have no idea who it is,
what the conversation’s about.
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He hangs up and says,
"dude, we gotta make a pit stop."
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[Narrator] Had someone called to warn
Jason that Jim was working with the police?
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Maybe someone had seen him and
the detective talking at the music store.
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I know he at least
has a knife on him.
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A hundred percent.
Always has a knife on him.
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Everything really
started to sink in,
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that I was wearing the wire,
that this was incredibly dangerous,
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and that I put myself in a
very vulnerable position.
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[Narrator] After receiving
a mysterious phone call,
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Jason Weir pulls into an apartment
complex in nearby attleboro.
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[Keenan] They did go
to a third party’s house.
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And we did have concerns because
we didn’t have a search warrant
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to intercept the audio
transmissions in that house.
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We turned off the audio
recordings at that point.
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[Narrator] Jim morel has no
choice but to follow him inside,
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or risk blowing his cover.
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Inside, Jason disappears into
a bedroom and closes the door.
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Had Jason just been tipped
off that Jim is wearing a wire?
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00:25:02,267 --> 00:25:05,537
And even if Jason
isn’t onto Jim,
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Jim is all alone in a strange
apartment, surrounded by strangers.
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Seconds tick by like hours.
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[Jim] Then, the door opens.
447
00:25:25,624 --> 00:25:28,024
Jay comes out of the room,
he’s like, "all right, fine. Fine."
448
00:25:28,694 --> 00:25:29,934
And we leave.
449
00:25:29,962 --> 00:25:31,172
I ask, "like, what
was that about?"
450
00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:32,941
And he literally says,
"don’t worry about it."
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And i’m thinkin’, "fine."
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[Keenan] Thankfully,
he was returned safe.
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They get back into the car, and please keep
him talkin’, we need a little bit more.
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00:25:42,941 --> 00:25:45,611
We also needed to know
individually what roles
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00:25:45,644 --> 00:25:48,784
Anthony calabro, Jason Weir
and Thomas lally played in
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the homicide of Marina calabro.
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00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:16,138
I was so disgusted hearing about
how marina’s last moments were...
458
00:26:16,675 --> 00:26:17,975
in that way.
459
00:26:18,010 --> 00:26:20,650
When I had heard that, i’m
like, "these people are ruthless,
460
00:26:20,679 --> 00:26:22,649
cold-blooded. They’re killers."
461
00:26:58,350 --> 00:27:01,850
The tone shifted. The
details started to come in.
462
00:27:01,887 --> 00:27:07,427
And my thought process quickly
changed to, "how could you do this, man?"
463
00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:10,899
If you’re there as a last breath
of someone escaped their body
464
00:27:10,929 --> 00:27:14,269
while they’re pleading for somebody
and you’re just sitting right there,
465
00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:15,910
there’s something
incredibly wrong with that,
466
00:27:15,934 --> 00:27:17,874
as just a human being
to a human being level.
467
00:27:47,466 --> 00:27:50,236
It went from less of a being in
the wrong place at the wrong time
468
00:27:50,269 --> 00:27:53,739
to more of a bragging way
of saying how this went down.
469
00:27:53,772 --> 00:27:55,172
And how they got away with it.
470
00:28:04,116 --> 00:28:08,316
I’m so disgusted as to
what she had to hear...
471
00:28:08,353 --> 00:28:11,923
in her last moments, that
my empathy was gone.
472
00:28:43,522 --> 00:28:44,922
Nah, man ...You.
473
00:28:44,957 --> 00:28:46,987
I’m starting to see the
real reason behind this.
474
00:28:47,025 --> 00:28:48,485
You wanted that money.
475
00:28:48,527 --> 00:28:51,927
You’re willing to end
somebody else’s life for that.
476
00:28:51,964 --> 00:28:55,674
[Narrator] Not only did the three
boys work together to plan the murder,
477
00:28:55,701 --> 00:28:59,541
but they had also researched
the best way to clean up the scene.
478
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,980
These kids had watched
forensic files, you know,
479
00:29:45,017 --> 00:29:47,787
and... and they could get a fun
ways to get away with murder.
480
00:29:53,058 --> 00:29:54,858
They thought they were
educating themselves...
481
00:30:09,074 --> 00:30:11,984
They completely disgust me
and it just changed everything.
482
00:30:35,267 --> 00:30:38,237
I was literally just so angry
and disgusted, that i’m like...
483
00:30:38,270 --> 00:30:40,040
"Let’s just end
it all right now."
484
00:30:40,072 --> 00:30:42,342
If we’re gonna do this, let’s
just do this the right way.
485
00:31:02,928 --> 00:31:04,428
[Narrator] It’s a
stunning confession,
486
00:31:04,463 --> 00:31:06,503
but there’s just one more detail
487
00:31:06,531 --> 00:31:08,431
Jim needs to seal the case.
488
00:31:10,702 --> 00:31:13,472
At that point, I said, "okay,
why don’t I just cut to the chase?
489
00:31:13,505 --> 00:31:15,315
Where are the murder weapons?"
490
00:31:29,321 --> 00:31:33,061
[Narrator] Despite the risks,
Jim keeps pushing for more.
491
00:31:53,745 --> 00:31:57,545
To my surprise, again, he’s
like, "i’ll... I can show you."
492
00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:58,752
Like, all right. Let’s go.
493
00:32:00,552 --> 00:32:03,662
[Narrator] With that, Jason
turns off the main road
494
00:32:03,688 --> 00:32:06,018
and heads deep
into a wooded area.
495
00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:11,230
Once again, Jim
is completely alone.
496
00:32:12,697 --> 00:32:14,742
[Keenan] We had no idea where
he was gonna take him to show him
497
00:32:14,766 --> 00:32:16,377
where they disposed
of the murder weapons.
498
00:32:16,401 --> 00:32:18,471
We had no idea that
that place existed,
499
00:32:18,503 --> 00:32:20,373
where are we goin’,
why are we going here?
500
00:32:22,174 --> 00:32:24,644
We get very concerned when
we started going off-route,
501
00:32:24,676 --> 00:32:26,076
you know, it was gettin’ dark.
502
00:32:26,111 --> 00:32:28,481
It was a desolate
area, we didn’t know
503
00:32:28,513 --> 00:32:30,853
what we were gonna
find when we got there,
504
00:32:30,882 --> 00:32:32,052
or how it was gonna go down.
505
00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:34,493
How sometimes things just
happen very, very quickly
506
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:36,349
that you have no
complete control over.
507
00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:41,026
We stayed back, we kept him
as best as we could in sight,
508
00:32:41,059 --> 00:32:44,699
but we had audio
on him all the time.
509
00:32:44,729 --> 00:32:48,569
[Narrator] Jim drives into the
darkness with a confessed killer.
510
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,700
He has no idea what’s awaiting
him at the end of the road.
511
00:33:03,348 --> 00:33:05,978
[Narrator] After driving
into a heavily wooded area,
512
00:33:06,017 --> 00:33:08,787
Jason Weir stops the
car near a small pond.
513
00:33:10,622 --> 00:33:15,062
It’s there that the final pieces
of the puzzle can be found.
514
00:33:15,093 --> 00:33:18,633
My nerves are kind of shot, it’s
been a whirlwind of emotions...
515
00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:21,598
and he just starts pointing out,
516
00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:23,973
"there’s a pan over
there on that side,
517
00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:25,672
uh, there’s tea
kettle over there."
518
00:33:25,704 --> 00:33:27,315
He’s pointing to these
different locations
519
00:33:27,339 --> 00:33:29,269
as to where these
weapons may have been.
520
00:33:35,547 --> 00:33:39,017
[Jim] When he told me, for the
final time, uh, it became bragging.
521
00:33:39,050 --> 00:33:41,095
We did get away with this,
because we know how to handle this.
522
00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:42,263
We know what we’re
doing, you know?
523
00:33:42,287 --> 00:33:43,965
We know how to place a
body to make it look like
524
00:33:43,989 --> 00:33:45,933
what it needs to look like,
you know? We’re smart guys.
525
00:33:45,957 --> 00:33:48,327
And I thought to myself, like,
"why are you telling me this?"
526
00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:14,453
[Jim] We drive out of the
woods, and we just get back
527
00:34:14,486 --> 00:34:17,586
on the main road, and
he just drives me home.
528
00:34:19,157 --> 00:34:21,457
I didn’t know how to
keep conversation going.
529
00:34:21,493 --> 00:34:23,471
I didn’t know what I
believed, I don’t know if I made
530
00:34:23,495 --> 00:34:26,335
a huge mistake by
going this far with it.
531
00:34:27,532 --> 00:34:29,902
I couldn’t even understand
why I went this far with it.
532
00:34:31,336 --> 00:34:33,496
But, he had dropped
me back off at home.
533
00:34:35,340 --> 00:34:37,580
And then I just simply
walked into my house.
534
00:34:45,216 --> 00:34:47,846
Luckily, everything went
exactly how we had hoped
535
00:34:47,886 --> 00:34:49,516
it would go, and even better.
536
00:34:51,122 --> 00:34:52,922
You know, we were
able to get, essentially,
537
00:34:52,958 --> 00:34:55,988
a full confession in
the murderer’s voice.
538
00:34:56,027 --> 00:35:00,027
And no one got hurt, all the
information was gleaned lawfully.
539
00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:02,675
And we were very pleased
with how it came out.
540
00:35:02,701 --> 00:35:06,641
It’s surprising that someone so
young would be able to pull it off.
541
00:35:07,772 --> 00:35:09,872
[Jim] Well the cops were
very, very happy with me.
542
00:35:09,908 --> 00:35:11,252
Uh, and like I said,
I was just trying
543
00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:12,520
to clear my name the whole time.
544
00:35:12,544 --> 00:35:14,584
I’m like, "so you guys
100% believe me now, right?
545
00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:16,383
So you’re not investigating
me for murder?"
546
00:35:16,414 --> 00:35:19,624
It’s like, "nah, man. Your hands
are clean, like, we totally get it."
547
00:35:19,651 --> 00:35:23,451
I think Jim morel showed a lot of
character. Showed a lot of strength.
548
00:35:23,488 --> 00:35:26,858
You know, you’re turning your friends
in for a murder that they committed.
549
00:35:26,891 --> 00:35:30,431
It’s not the easiest thing in
the world to do, I can imagine.
550
00:35:30,462 --> 00:35:31,862
But it’s certainly
the right thing,
551
00:35:31,896 --> 00:35:33,376
and the only thing
that you should do.
552
00:35:39,738 --> 00:35:43,138
[Narrator] Not only did
Jim secure a full confession,
553
00:35:43,174 --> 00:35:48,214
but he was also able to determine the
approximate location of the frying pan,
554
00:35:48,246 --> 00:35:51,216
and the teapot
used to kill Marina.
555
00:35:51,249 --> 00:35:53,779
Well, the police of course went
and found the murder weapon.
556
00:35:56,121 --> 00:35:59,961
We had Jason weir’s statements, we
had a pretty good handle on the case,
557
00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:03,631
but... finding the murder
weapons was basically key.
558
00:36:03,662 --> 00:36:05,932
We went down at the
pond, we get there early,
559
00:36:05,964 --> 00:36:10,304
the state police dive team arrived with
a number of professional scuba divers.
560
00:36:10,335 --> 00:36:11,905
They went into the pond.
561
00:36:11,936 --> 00:36:16,066
They spent a good portion of the day doing
grid searches and going back and forth
562
00:36:16,107 --> 00:36:18,777
underwater to try and recover
the evidence we were looking for.
563
00:36:18,810 --> 00:36:20,850
We couldn’t find it.
564
00:36:20,879 --> 00:36:23,209
They needed to find where
these murder weapons were.
565
00:36:24,349 --> 00:36:25,793
[Narrator] Without
the murder weapons,
566
00:36:25,817 --> 00:36:29,687
the case rests solely on
jason’s recorded statements.
567
00:36:29,721 --> 00:36:31,821
Anthony and Tom could simply say
568
00:36:31,856 --> 00:36:35,626
it was all just some wild
story that Jason made up.
569
00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:38,000
We kinda had a very
strong suspicion it was there.
570
00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:41,029
It was just frustrating
not being able to locate it.
571
00:36:41,066 --> 00:36:42,866
One of the detectives
in Norton had said,
572
00:36:42,901 --> 00:36:44,971
"we can drain that
pond down a little bit,
573
00:36:45,003 --> 00:36:48,373
maybe make it a little
bit easier for your search."
574
00:36:48,406 --> 00:36:53,606
We actually worked with conservation
to have the dam let out a little bit,
575
00:36:53,645 --> 00:36:56,155
so we could get further
in, in the event they threw
576
00:36:56,181 --> 00:36:58,951
the murder weapons
into the pond farther.
577
00:36:58,983 --> 00:37:01,353
The state police dive
team was in the water.
578
00:37:01,386 --> 00:37:04,986
We haven’t had much luck, it’s like
the second time we’ve been down there.
579
00:37:05,023 --> 00:37:07,863
And, uh, one of our detectives
who’s a court prosecutor,
580
00:37:07,892 --> 00:37:11,662
Gary barr, comes down, and I
told Gary what we were looking for,
581
00:37:11,696 --> 00:37:13,826
and Gary pointed, "oh,
you mean like that?"
582
00:37:18,937 --> 00:37:19,977
And they were right there.
583
00:37:26,878 --> 00:37:29,848
[Jim] After everything was
done, a day or so goes by.
584
00:37:29,881 --> 00:37:31,351
Um, they’re still not arrested,
585
00:37:31,382 --> 00:37:33,222
and the police
are just essentially
586
00:37:33,251 --> 00:37:35,921
telling me, uh, just
to live your normal life.
587
00:37:35,954 --> 00:37:38,364
Keep hanging out with ’em,
and at this point, i’m like, "no."
588
00:37:38,389 --> 00:37:40,659
Nope. I’m done.
589
00:37:40,692 --> 00:37:43,662
At some point, Jay is gonna
tell people that he told me.
590
00:37:43,695 --> 00:37:46,705
Alright? And i’m not gonna
put myself any more in this thing.
591
00:37:46,731 --> 00:37:48,042
I thought, i’m like,
"i’m not a cop."
592
00:37:48,066 --> 00:37:50,366
You know? I’m
just... I’m just a guy.
593
00:37:50,401 --> 00:37:52,241
You know? This isn’t my job.
594
00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:54,040
So I decide to...
To get out of town.
595
00:37:54,072 --> 00:37:55,742
I go to New
Hampshire for a while.
596
00:37:55,774 --> 00:37:57,614
Until they finally
arrested them.
597
00:37:57,642 --> 00:38:01,012
Once we got that critical piece
of evidence, the murder weapons,
598
00:38:01,045 --> 00:38:02,423
at that point that’s
when we we went
599
00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:04,277
and got arrest warrants
for the three of them.
600
00:38:04,315 --> 00:38:06,045
[Tires screeching]
601
00:38:24,102 --> 00:38:27,942
[Keenan] Anthony calabro was
arrested at home by two state troopers.
602
00:38:27,972 --> 00:38:30,512
I was on scene with lally
when he was arrested.
603
00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:34,480
We took him out and
brought him back to the station.
604
00:38:34,512 --> 00:38:35,882
We attempted to talk with him.
605
00:38:35,914 --> 00:38:37,658
He did talk to us for
a brief period of time,
606
00:38:37,682 --> 00:38:40,452
but the story that he told us
was completely inconsistent
607
00:38:40,485 --> 00:38:42,595
with what information
we had at the time,
608
00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:45,720
so we knew that he
wasn’t being truthful with us.
609
00:38:45,757 --> 00:38:47,487
Anthony calabro refused to talk.
610
00:38:47,525 --> 00:38:51,325
As soon as he was arrested, he
requested a lawyer and never spoke with us.
611
00:38:51,362 --> 00:38:54,332
Jason did speak to us. He
kind of outlined his involvement.
612
00:38:54,365 --> 00:38:57,295
He downplayed his actual
involvement in the case.
613
00:38:57,335 --> 00:38:59,165
He basically told
us what lally did.
614
00:39:04,209 --> 00:39:05,386
[Jim] Heard on
the radio, actually,
615
00:39:05,410 --> 00:39:07,421
that three people had been
arrested for this murder.
616
00:39:07,445 --> 00:39:10,005
I’m like, "all right, I guess I
could go back home now."
617
00:39:10,048 --> 00:39:13,578
I waited a couple of days, though,
still, just for things to kind of clear up.
618
00:39:13,618 --> 00:39:17,758
We never disclosed to Jason Weir
that Jim morel had actually worn a wire.
619
00:39:17,789 --> 00:39:20,089
Whether he suspected
that or not, I don’t know.
620
00:39:20,124 --> 00:39:23,794
But we never told Jason Weir
that Jim morel was wearing the wire,
621
00:39:23,828 --> 00:39:26,598
because we didn’t wanna
put Jim morel in harm’s way.
622
00:39:26,631 --> 00:39:28,301
Not only did I
not have to testify,
623
00:39:28,333 --> 00:39:33,443
I also never had to come face-to-face
with any of them ever again.
624
00:39:33,471 --> 00:39:37,881
They were all arraigned on murder
charges in Quincy district court.
625
00:39:37,909 --> 00:39:40,379
Thomas lally is tried first.
626
00:39:40,411 --> 00:39:42,223
[Reporter] Thomas lally
from Norton was convicted
627
00:39:42,247 --> 00:39:43,877
of first-degree
murder for the killing
628
00:39:43,915 --> 00:39:47,325
of Marina calabro in her
Quincy home back in 2011.
629
00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:52,687
A month or two later,
Anthony calabro pleads guilty
630
00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:54,664
to second-degree murder.
631
00:39:54,692 --> 00:39:57,732
He admitted to his
role in being the lookout,
632
00:39:57,762 --> 00:40:02,072
and being part of a plot
to, uh, kill his great-aunt.
633
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:07,000
Jason Weir ultimately pleaded
guilty to being accessory after the fact.
634
00:40:07,038 --> 00:40:09,238
Jason Weir was given
a seven-year sentence.
635
00:40:09,274 --> 00:40:12,514
Anthony calabro was also
convicted of second-degree murder.
636
00:40:12,543 --> 00:40:14,553
He was given life with parole.
637
00:40:14,579 --> 00:40:16,409
Eligible for parole
after 15 years.
638
00:40:16,447 --> 00:40:19,017
Thomas lally was convicted
of first-degree murder.
639
00:40:19,050 --> 00:40:21,250
He was given a sentence
of life without parole.
640
00:40:25,757 --> 00:40:27,857
It was a sad way
for Marina calabro,
641
00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:30,632
who was a loving, caring
woman to have her life ended.
642
00:40:31,596 --> 00:40:33,326
I think that justice was served.
643
00:40:33,364 --> 00:40:36,674
I think that the three people that were
involved in bringing her life to an end
644
00:40:36,701 --> 00:40:39,501
were held accountable
for their actions.
645
00:40:39,537 --> 00:40:41,867
Two out of the three
are still in jail now,
646
00:40:41,906 --> 00:40:44,306
and I think that that
day justice was served.
647
00:40:45,977 --> 00:40:48,847
[Narrator] Jim knows that
his friends now understand
648
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,050
that he was the one who wore
the wire, and brought them down.
649
00:40:53,084 --> 00:40:55,724
But despite all
the risks, he’s okay
650
00:40:55,753 --> 00:40:58,163
with the consequences
of that decision.
651
00:40:58,756 --> 00:41:00,416
When I got home,
652
00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:02,288
I started doubting
everything I did.
653
00:41:02,327 --> 00:41:04,827
I had some inner conflicts.
654
00:41:05,964 --> 00:41:08,504
I’ve had 20 years to
process everything.
655
00:41:09,734 --> 00:41:11,044
Uh, i’m married, you know?
656
00:41:11,069 --> 00:41:13,469
I’ve gotten, you know, my...
657
00:41:13,504 --> 00:41:14,715
Things are... things
are good for me.
658
00:41:14,739 --> 00:41:16,139
I’m doin’... I’m
doin’ all right.
659
00:41:16,174 --> 00:41:20,044
Um, so I really have no complaints
the way my life has turned out.
660
00:41:20,078 --> 00:41:22,148
And, uh, I probably
wouldn’t be who I am today
661
00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:24,780
if it weren’t for
those circumstances.
662
00:41:24,816 --> 00:41:27,986
I think he was a brave young man
for taking the chance that he took.
663
00:41:28,019 --> 00:41:30,489
I... I think he was an
honest guy, you know?
664
00:41:30,521 --> 00:41:31,891
I think he had a conscience.
665
00:41:31,923 --> 00:41:34,493
And he should be proud
that he helped bring
666
00:41:34,525 --> 00:41:37,655
three people that murdered
an older woman to justice.
667
00:41:38,663 --> 00:41:40,163
I think he’s
underplaying it a bit.
668
00:41:40,198 --> 00:41:41,928
What if he just...
669
00:41:41,966 --> 00:41:44,178
never volunteered and just
walked out of the police station?
670
00:41:44,202 --> 00:41:45,502
For god’s sakes!
671
00:41:45,536 --> 00:41:46,766
They had nothing!
672
00:41:47,438 --> 00:41:48,768
No evidence.
673
00:41:48,806 --> 00:41:51,706
I don’t know if they would’ve
solved it, you know, without him.
674
00:41:57,215 --> 00:41:59,155
[Jim] There is no
winner in any of this.
675
00:41:59,183 --> 00:42:02,493
There is no happy ending.
Nobody came out on top.
676
00:42:04,122 --> 00:42:07,062
At the end of the day, three people
went to jail for a very long time.
677
00:42:07,892 --> 00:42:10,062
One will never get out of jail.
678
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:16,000
At the end of the day, a woman
was murdered for no reason.
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