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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:15,516 --> 00:00:17,560 [Narrator] When a beloved new england woman is murdered, 2 00:00:17,584 --> 00:00:20,754 a young man decides to go undercover 3 00:00:20,787 --> 00:00:21,817 to snare the killer. 4 00:00:21,855 --> 00:00:23,885 [Audio recording] 5 00:00:26,126 --> 00:00:28,356 [Narrator] But is this an elaborate deception 6 00:00:28,395 --> 00:00:30,425 to throw detectives off his trail? 7 00:00:30,464 --> 00:00:32,404 [Audio recording] 8 00:00:34,234 --> 00:00:37,104 [Narrator] In this dangerous game of cat and mouse, 9 00:00:37,137 --> 00:00:39,607 who is predator, and who is prey? 10 00:00:40,941 --> 00:00:43,081 [Audio recording] 11 00:00:47,414 --> 00:00:50,384 Jim, this is detective sergeant... with the... Case. 12 00:00:50,417 --> 00:00:52,117 [Narrator] Undercover work 13 00:00:52,152 --> 00:00:54,752 is some of the riskiest in law enforcement. 14 00:00:54,788 --> 00:00:56,388 [Detective] ’kay, she’s out of the car. 15 00:00:56,423 --> 00:00:57,903 Okay, good deal, good deal, good deal. 16 00:00:58,458 --> 00:00:59,536 [Narrator] One wrong move... 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,230 [Police sirens] 18 00:01:01,261 --> 00:01:02,561 [Narrator] ...Can cost a life. 19 00:01:02,596 --> 00:01:04,326 [Officer] Police! Don’t move! 20 00:01:05,799 --> 00:01:07,929 [Narrator] In rare situations, 21 00:01:07,968 --> 00:01:11,938 everyday people go undercover in search of the truth. 22 00:01:11,972 --> 00:01:15,112 They’re willing to risk it all. 23 00:01:15,142 --> 00:01:18,952 Even taking down friends and family. 24 00:01:18,979 --> 00:01:20,949 This isn’t the movies, I had to actually do this. 25 00:01:22,316 --> 00:01:23,716 [Narrator] Doing the right thing 26 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:26,090 has never been so dangerous. 27 00:01:38,198 --> 00:01:41,428 Norton is a very small, tight-knit community. 28 00:01:41,468 --> 00:01:44,968 It’s about 30 miles south of Boston. 29 00:01:47,507 --> 00:01:49,937 So, norton’s basically like a bedroom community 30 00:01:49,977 --> 00:01:51,277 to Boston and Providence, 31 00:01:51,311 --> 00:01:53,651 and have about 19,000 people that live in town. 32 00:01:54,715 --> 00:01:56,355 It’s a good school system. 33 00:01:56,383 --> 00:02:00,193 We have, uh, wheaton college, a small college. 34 00:02:00,220 --> 00:02:02,620 It’s a blue collar, uh, working class town, 35 00:02:02,656 --> 00:02:04,616 uh, a lot of middle class families, 36 00:02:04,658 --> 00:02:06,328 a lot of families in general. 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,060 Yeah, it was a fantastic place to grow up. 38 00:02:09,162 --> 00:02:10,802 [Rock music playing] 39 00:02:15,068 --> 00:02:17,168 I was only 19, 20 years old. 40 00:02:17,204 --> 00:02:19,544 I was still trying to figure out what I wanted to do 41 00:02:19,573 --> 00:02:21,843 with my career, my life, everything. 42 00:02:22,909 --> 00:02:24,409 I played the keyboards. 43 00:02:24,444 --> 00:02:27,214 I had some experience through other bands that I was working with, 44 00:02:27,247 --> 00:02:29,847 and had a good amount of live stage experience with that, 45 00:02:29,883 --> 00:02:31,653 so by the time it came to do my own project, 46 00:02:31,685 --> 00:02:34,055 I wanted to have complete creative control. 47 00:02:34,087 --> 00:02:38,457 I started a solo project called "ekm" or "electronic kill machine". 48 00:02:38,492 --> 00:02:41,332 I recorded my first album, which was doing fairly well 49 00:02:41,361 --> 00:02:42,731 and actually starting to sell, 50 00:02:42,763 --> 00:02:45,373 and I decided that I needed to incorporate 51 00:02:45,399 --> 00:02:48,469 more live musicians as to opposed to just myself on stage. 52 00:02:48,502 --> 00:02:50,202 I did hear some of the music, 53 00:02:50,237 --> 00:02:54,367 and it was, like, thrash metal, you might describe it as 54 00:02:54,408 --> 00:02:57,408 or definitely heavy metal, fast-paced, 55 00:02:57,444 --> 00:02:59,814 they didn’t play ballads. 56 00:02:59,846 --> 00:03:01,924 [Jim] I decided to kinda recruit some of my closer friends 57 00:03:01,948 --> 00:03:03,048 that I knew I could trust. 58 00:03:03,917 --> 00:03:05,317 [Narrator] Fresh out of high school, 59 00:03:05,352 --> 00:03:08,892 Jim first turns to his best friend, Jason Weir, 60 00:03:08,922 --> 00:03:12,092 a skilled base player he’s known since childhood. 61 00:03:12,125 --> 00:03:13,369 He quickly said to me, he’s like, 62 00:03:13,393 --> 00:03:14,570 "I wanna try and learn drums," 63 00:03:14,594 --> 00:03:17,364 i’m like, "all right." [Laughs] 64 00:03:17,397 --> 00:03:18,697 "All right, let’s do it, man." 65 00:03:20,701 --> 00:03:22,771 [Laughing] 66 00:03:22,803 --> 00:03:24,903 To my surprise, he was actually quite good, 67 00:03:24,938 --> 00:03:26,738 and he could read music appropriately, 68 00:03:26,773 --> 00:03:28,513 and he could do what I needed him to do, 69 00:03:28,542 --> 00:03:30,262 and so I said, "okay, well, this will work." 70 00:03:31,044 --> 00:03:33,514 [Narrator] The band already has a guitarist, 71 00:03:33,547 --> 00:03:36,517 but Jason suggests they bring in Anthony calabro, 72 00:03:36,550 --> 00:03:38,180 a former classmate. 73 00:03:38,218 --> 00:03:40,518 While Anthony doesn’t play any instruments, 74 00:03:40,554 --> 00:03:42,424 he has a great head for business, 75 00:03:42,456 --> 00:03:44,786 and can set up gigs for the band. 76 00:03:44,825 --> 00:03:46,435 He had no experience managing anything. 77 00:03:46,460 --> 00:03:48,430 I was looking for a guy that could handle more 78 00:03:48,462 --> 00:03:51,102 of the logistics of setting things up. 79 00:03:51,131 --> 00:03:52,901 He seemed more than willing to do that, 80 00:03:52,933 --> 00:03:54,733 so, it kinda worked out. 81 00:03:54,768 --> 00:03:57,198 [Narrator] Next up is Thomas lally, 82 00:03:57,237 --> 00:03:58,807 another former classmate. 83 00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:01,709 [Jim] Tom knew Anthony and Jason, 84 00:04:01,742 --> 00:04:04,212 and he kinda brought both of them into my life 85 00:04:04,244 --> 00:04:06,254 and into our mutual friend circle. 86 00:04:06,279 --> 00:04:09,079 So, he’s like, "okay, well, if there’s any sort of need for security," 87 00:04:09,116 --> 00:04:10,356 which there wasn’t... [Chuckles] 88 00:04:10,984 --> 00:04:12,054 we’d have him involved. 89 00:04:12,085 --> 00:04:13,785 He’d get in line with promoters, 90 00:04:13,820 --> 00:04:15,320 get in line with, uh, club owners, 91 00:04:15,355 --> 00:04:16,615 make sure things were set up. 92 00:04:16,656 --> 00:04:18,416 Typical American teens, you know, 93 00:04:18,458 --> 00:04:21,088 they’re in to playing music, uh, listening to music, 94 00:04:21,128 --> 00:04:22,939 you know, partying and hanging around with friends, 95 00:04:22,963 --> 00:04:23,833 just like, uh... 96 00:04:23,864 --> 00:04:25,164 Who doesn’t like music? 97 00:04:26,166 --> 00:04:28,736 Well, all four Norton boys went to Norton high. 98 00:04:28,769 --> 00:04:31,439 It’s a small town, everybody knows everybody. 99 00:04:31,471 --> 00:04:34,271 Everybody gets along with each other there. 100 00:04:34,307 --> 00:04:38,077 Jason was the one I was the closest with out of all of the three. 101 00:04:38,111 --> 00:04:39,911 Jason is a couple years younger than I am, 102 00:04:39,946 --> 00:04:42,916 and his personality was a little bit more outgoing. 103 00:04:42,949 --> 00:04:45,189 He was a little bit more willing to put himself out there, 104 00:04:45,218 --> 00:04:47,988 but always in a fairly respectful way. 105 00:04:48,021 --> 00:04:50,121 Anthony seemed a little bit more on the drier side. 106 00:04:50,157 --> 00:04:52,657 He was very much right to business. 107 00:04:52,692 --> 00:04:55,802 He was tall, he always had his hair in a ponytail. 108 00:04:55,829 --> 00:04:58,159 He used to wear a black trench coat. 109 00:04:58,198 --> 00:05:00,868 Thomas lally was kind of a big kid at the time, 110 00:05:00,901 --> 00:05:02,071 a kind of bully. 111 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:04,496 [Jim] Tom was a big guy, 112 00:05:04,538 --> 00:05:08,308 however, his looks were more intimidating than he actually was. 113 00:05:08,341 --> 00:05:11,011 Uh, Tom was actually kind of a big softy, 114 00:05:11,044 --> 00:05:13,314 he was a big Teddy bear of a guy, 115 00:05:13,346 --> 00:05:16,546 uh, he’d literally give you the shirt off his back if he could. 116 00:05:16,583 --> 00:05:19,393 [Narrator] Jim and the band are primed for success 117 00:05:19,419 --> 00:05:21,049 with Jason on drums, 118 00:05:21,087 --> 00:05:23,357 Anthony managing the business, 119 00:05:23,390 --> 00:05:24,720 and Tom providing security. 120 00:05:26,092 --> 00:05:29,662 And though their thrash metal music is raw and aggressive, 121 00:05:29,696 --> 00:05:32,866 the kids have no history causing any trouble with the law. 122 00:05:34,034 --> 00:05:35,874 They weren’t known as troublemakers. 123 00:05:38,004 --> 00:05:41,074 [Narrator] Anthony does have trouble at home, though. 124 00:05:41,107 --> 00:05:44,037 After one too many fights with his parents, 125 00:05:44,077 --> 00:05:47,907 his great aunt, Marina calabro, takes him in. 126 00:05:47,948 --> 00:05:50,578 Not only does she cook and clean for him, 127 00:05:50,617 --> 00:05:55,187 but soon enough, Jason and Thomas are also hanging out at the house. 128 00:05:55,222 --> 00:05:58,022 [Keenan] Marina calabro was a lovely woman. 129 00:05:58,058 --> 00:06:01,088 She was well respected by her community and by the neighbors. 130 00:06:01,127 --> 00:06:03,357 She took pride in her property. 131 00:06:03,396 --> 00:06:05,766 Marina calabro’s house was in a nice neighborhood 132 00:06:05,799 --> 00:06:08,769 up on hospital hill section of Quincy. 133 00:06:08,802 --> 00:06:12,912 [Linton] She was unmarried, took care of her younger siblings, 134 00:06:12,939 --> 00:06:15,109 and took care of her mother as her mother grew old 135 00:06:15,141 --> 00:06:16,581 until her mother passed away. 136 00:06:16,610 --> 00:06:18,780 She took in Anthony, 137 00:06:18,812 --> 00:06:20,982 and then his friends moved into the house. 138 00:06:22,048 --> 00:06:25,278 She would cook for them, support the band, 139 00:06:25,318 --> 00:06:27,718 gave them money, and, by all accounts, 140 00:06:27,754 --> 00:06:30,564 she treated Anthony like her son. 141 00:06:30,590 --> 00:06:32,560 [Narrator] With marina’s guiding hand, 142 00:06:32,592 --> 00:06:35,462 Anthony seems to be getting his life back on track. 143 00:06:37,264 --> 00:06:39,474 Then tragedy strikes. 144 00:06:42,736 --> 00:06:44,936 [Phone ringing] 145 00:06:44,971 --> 00:06:47,271 [Dispatch officer] 146 00:06:47,307 --> 00:06:49,237 [Keenan] December 19th, 2001, 147 00:06:49,276 --> 00:06:51,976 the Quincy police received a phone call just before midnight 148 00:06:52,012 --> 00:06:54,952 that a woman had passed away. 149 00:06:54,981 --> 00:06:57,921 Anthony was looking for his great aunt, Marina, 150 00:06:57,951 --> 00:07:00,391 and he called downstairs to see if his grandmother, 151 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:03,590 Anne-Marie, knew where she was. She did not. 152 00:07:03,623 --> 00:07:06,133 He then called his father at his home in Plymouth, 153 00:07:06,159 --> 00:07:08,559 and see if he knew where Marina was, 154 00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:11,065 but he also did not, he suggested that they 155 00:07:11,097 --> 00:07:12,797 check the stairs, and check the hallway. 156 00:07:14,467 --> 00:07:16,237 At that point, he had gone down the stairs 157 00:07:16,269 --> 00:07:17,909 and found her at the bottom of the stairs. 158 00:07:20,507 --> 00:07:23,677 She was cold, so Anthony calabro then called 911. 159 00:07:23,710 --> 00:07:25,240 [Phone ringing] 160 00:07:25,278 --> 00:07:28,108 She was at the bottom of the stairs in like a landing or a platform. 161 00:07:29,316 --> 00:07:31,416 It appeared that she had fallen down the steps 162 00:07:31,451 --> 00:07:33,451 attempting to put out the trash. 163 00:07:33,486 --> 00:07:37,516 There was a trash bag that was located next to her deceased body. 164 00:07:37,557 --> 00:07:40,487 I responded along with members of the state police, 165 00:07:40,527 --> 00:07:43,927 crime scene services unit, and, uh, detective unit 166 00:07:43,964 --> 00:07:46,974 out of the Norfolk county district attorney’s office. 167 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,670 They photographed the scene, they viewed the body, 168 00:07:49,703 --> 00:07:52,513 they wrapped the woman’s hands in plastic 169 00:07:52,539 --> 00:07:54,969 to preserve fingerprints or any kind of evidence 170 00:07:55,008 --> 00:07:56,848 that would be found underneath the fingernails. 171 00:07:58,144 --> 00:08:00,484 They brought her to the chief medical examiner’s office 172 00:08:00,513 --> 00:08:01,513 for an autopsy. 173 00:08:02,482 --> 00:08:04,782 They determined that she had taken a fall, 174 00:08:04,818 --> 00:08:06,862 it was a result of the fall, it was what he determined 175 00:08:06,886 --> 00:08:09,386 was a broken neck that had caused her, uh, death. 176 00:08:11,591 --> 00:08:16,201 It was just a sad, tragic thing for everyone involved. 177 00:08:27,674 --> 00:08:29,418 [Clark] A young kid freshly out of high school 178 00:08:29,442 --> 00:08:33,652 came in on a Sunday evening on October 13th, 2002, 179 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:36,820 where he was greeted by the desk officer. 180 00:08:36,850 --> 00:08:39,850 When he came in, he reported that he had information about a crime. 181 00:08:40,887 --> 00:08:42,587 And I just walked up, banged on the glass, 182 00:08:42,622 --> 00:08:44,762 i’m like, "I guess I have a murder to report." 183 00:08:47,027 --> 00:08:48,504 Well, it’s certainly very unusual, you know, 184 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:50,898 certainly in a bedroom community, it doesn’t really happen. 185 00:08:50,930 --> 00:08:53,100 Especially involving three Norton kids. 186 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,344 The front desk lady, she’s like, 187 00:08:55,368 --> 00:08:57,168 "all right, just fill out this form." 188 00:08:57,203 --> 00:08:58,603 Jim morel was in his late teens, 189 00:08:59,305 --> 00:09:01,105 nice young kid. 190 00:09:01,141 --> 00:09:03,741 [Clark] We get him out of the lobby into a private location 191 00:09:03,777 --> 00:09:05,947 that we can talk to with no interruptions, 192 00:09:05,979 --> 00:09:09,549 so, we have an interview room outside of detectives that we brought him into. 193 00:09:09,582 --> 00:09:11,852 He received information about a murder. 194 00:09:11,885 --> 00:09:14,625 He wasn’t there, he just wanted to get it off, 195 00:09:14,654 --> 00:09:16,924 and do the right thing, and report it. 196 00:09:17,891 --> 00:09:20,061 [Jim] It was a Sunday, and, uh, 197 00:09:20,093 --> 00:09:22,371 Jason and myself decided to go out and just grab some dinner, 198 00:09:22,395 --> 00:09:25,965 and that’s when Jay dropped everything on me, and he says, 199 00:09:25,999 --> 00:09:27,629 "there’s something you gotta know, man, 200 00:09:27,667 --> 00:09:29,967 Marina didn’t exactly die on her own." 201 00:09:37,410 --> 00:09:39,450 [Narrator] When Marina calabro dies, 202 00:09:39,479 --> 00:09:41,949 she leaves all of her money and her home 203 00:09:41,981 --> 00:09:43,981 to two heirs. 204 00:09:44,017 --> 00:09:46,487 [Keenan] Her estate was to be split by her nephew, 205 00:09:46,519 --> 00:09:49,789 David calabro, and his son, Anthony calabro. 206 00:09:49,823 --> 00:09:53,233 They wound up splitting the finances that were in the bank account, 207 00:09:53,259 --> 00:09:55,659 I think that was over $200,000. 208 00:09:55,695 --> 00:09:59,625 And then they split the sale of the home, which was over $500,000. 209 00:09:59,666 --> 00:10:03,396 So it was to be an equal split according to the will between those two. 210 00:10:03,436 --> 00:10:04,866 The word got around 211 00:10:04,904 --> 00:10:09,184 that he had a substantial amount of money due to, you know, the will. 212 00:10:09,209 --> 00:10:12,349 But the thing with Anthony is he always seemed to have cash. 213 00:10:12,378 --> 00:10:13,678 Even when Marina was alive, 214 00:10:13,713 --> 00:10:16,423 like, he had new cars, he always had money for things. 215 00:10:16,449 --> 00:10:20,149 He always had, like, nice clothes. He was very well taken care of. 216 00:10:20,186 --> 00:10:22,665 I don’t think I really noticed right away, any difference in cash. 217 00:10:22,689 --> 00:10:27,429 After anthony’s aunt died, it was kinda weird seein’ him drive a corvette. 218 00:10:27,460 --> 00:10:29,000 Somethin’ flashy, like that. 219 00:10:29,028 --> 00:10:33,168 I mean, it makes sense. His aunt passed away, and he inherited some money. 220 00:10:33,199 --> 00:10:36,669 You know, if I inherited quite a bit a sum of money even when I was a 16-yeard-old kid, 221 00:10:36,703 --> 00:10:39,213 I might have bought a nice corvette, myself. 222 00:10:39,239 --> 00:10:41,369 But he also splurged on his friends. 223 00:10:41,407 --> 00:10:45,337 He bought thousands of dollars of equipment for the band. 224 00:10:45,378 --> 00:10:47,648 He, you know, spent his money freely. 225 00:10:51,918 --> 00:10:54,688 [Narrator] When Jim walks into the police station, 226 00:10:54,721 --> 00:10:57,891 he says his day started ordinarily enough. 227 00:10:57,924 --> 00:11:00,194 Jason and myself went to a restaurant, 228 00:11:00,226 --> 00:11:03,096 and we were just sitting down, ordering our meal. 229 00:11:03,129 --> 00:11:07,029 Kinda just talking about things for the band, and just how we wanted to move forward. 230 00:11:07,066 --> 00:11:10,536 And, um, that’s when Jay dropped everything on me, 231 00:11:10,570 --> 00:11:13,040 he says, "there’s somethin’ you gotta know, man." 232 00:11:13,072 --> 00:11:15,512 Marina didn’t exactly die on her own. 233 00:11:17,944 --> 00:11:20,814 I didn’t really understand exactly what that meant. 234 00:11:20,847 --> 00:11:25,077 But I started thinking, okay, was she on some sorta drugs, what exactly happened? 235 00:11:25,118 --> 00:11:26,418 Because my understanding 236 00:11:26,452 --> 00:11:29,562 was that she fell down the stairs, and that’s how she passed. 237 00:11:29,589 --> 00:11:34,429 Finally, Jay told me the basics of his story of what happened. 238 00:11:34,460 --> 00:11:38,300 [Narrator] Jason reveals that Marina didn’t fall down the stairs. 239 00:11:38,865 --> 00:11:40,805 She was placed there. 240 00:11:40,833 --> 00:11:45,173 Marina had been killed in her kitchen by Tom lally. 241 00:11:45,205 --> 00:11:46,615 [Jim] The first thing that I thought 242 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:48,569 was this has gotta be some kind a joke. 243 00:11:48,608 --> 00:11:50,838 There’s absolutely no way they did somethin’ like this, 244 00:11:50,877 --> 00:11:54,107 and for whatever reason, Jay is messing with me. 245 00:11:54,147 --> 00:11:57,977 I’m thinking, "is this real? Is he screwing with me?" 246 00:11:58,017 --> 00:12:01,917 [Narrator] Jason assures him that not only did he see it happen, 247 00:12:01,955 --> 00:12:06,235 Anthony calabro, marina’s nephew, was also a witness. 248 00:12:07,460 --> 00:12:08,637 [Jim] They kinda felt bad for me, 249 00:12:08,661 --> 00:12:10,461 because it’d be just a messed up situation 250 00:12:10,496 --> 00:12:12,107 just to walk in a room, and see that happening. 251 00:12:12,131 --> 00:12:14,131 And then just not knowing what to do. 252 00:12:14,167 --> 00:12:17,697 I don’t know, honestly, I felt bad, and I was afraid for him. 253 00:12:17,737 --> 00:12:23,537 After thinking for a couple hours, I finally decide I can’t live with this. 254 00:12:23,576 --> 00:12:26,376 If you know somethin’ like that, you got two options. 255 00:12:26,412 --> 00:12:28,324 You can either live with it for the rest of your life, 256 00:12:28,348 --> 00:12:31,218 you can know that secret, and you can take it to your grave. 257 00:12:31,251 --> 00:12:34,821 But that’s gonna do something to you, that’s gonna change you as a core person. 258 00:12:34,854 --> 00:12:38,224 And I know this because I kept that secret for about three hours. 259 00:12:38,258 --> 00:12:41,988 And what it did for me for three hours was it really ate at me. 260 00:12:43,229 --> 00:12:46,699 I went to the police, and that’s when it all began. 261 00:12:46,733 --> 00:12:49,503 [Tatz] James morel walked into the Norton police station, 262 00:12:49,535 --> 00:12:53,865 and said he wanted to report a murder, and the murder was in Quincy, Massachusetts. 263 00:12:56,242 --> 00:12:57,553 [Clark] One of the first things we do 264 00:12:57,577 --> 00:13:00,347 is reach out to Quincy, and say, "hey, did this occur?" 265 00:13:00,380 --> 00:13:06,690 And Quincy did say that Marina did pass away, fell down a set of stairs. 266 00:13:06,719 --> 00:13:09,689 [Keenan] When we first encounter Jim, he looked very nervous. 267 00:13:09,722 --> 00:13:13,262 He was a young kid that had a tall tale, and a big story to tell. 268 00:13:15,561 --> 00:13:17,006 [Jim] I thought I was gonna fill out a paper thing, 269 00:13:17,030 --> 00:13:18,073 and then just go home that night, 270 00:13:18,097 --> 00:13:19,797 and be, like, "okay well, I did my part." 271 00:13:20,433 --> 00:13:21,433 Little did I know. 272 00:13:22,702 --> 00:13:24,502 [Keenan] Morel described the night, 273 00:13:24,537 --> 00:13:27,507 and what Weir had told him, in kinda generalities. 274 00:13:27,540 --> 00:13:32,040 He didn’t have specifics as to how it happened, and when it happened, 275 00:13:32,078 --> 00:13:36,418 or murder weapons, or how the actual homicide took place. 276 00:13:36,449 --> 00:13:41,119 [Narrator] Police find jim’s story to be suspiciously short on details. 277 00:13:41,154 --> 00:13:43,694 [Jim] I’m like, here’s my story, here’s what happened. 278 00:13:43,723 --> 00:13:45,393 I just found out about this. 279 00:13:45,425 --> 00:13:48,365 Go interrogate him, go talk to him, he’ll probably tell you what happened. 280 00:13:48,394 --> 00:13:50,105 But they were tryin’ to get more and more details 281 00:13:50,129 --> 00:13:51,899 out of me that I just did not have. 282 00:13:53,399 --> 00:13:56,239 Normally, when someone comes in to report something like that, 283 00:13:56,269 --> 00:13:58,039 you want to make sure, initially, 284 00:13:58,071 --> 00:14:02,241 that you checked their veracity, make sure that they’re truthful. 285 00:14:02,275 --> 00:14:04,586 Ten months had passed, I don’t know what I was doin’ that day, 286 00:14:04,610 --> 00:14:05,621 I don’t know what was goin’ on. 287 00:14:05,645 --> 00:14:07,785 The conversation was shifting and changing. 288 00:14:07,814 --> 00:14:12,224 And I could feel that, like, "okay, this guy’s kind of interrogating me." 289 00:14:12,251 --> 00:14:14,991 They don’t believe that i’m telling the truth. 290 00:14:15,021 --> 00:14:17,921 This guy thinks that i’m just trying to save my own ass. 291 00:14:17,957 --> 00:14:19,735 [Tatz] Maybe he was gonna to confess to something, 292 00:14:19,759 --> 00:14:22,429 and put the blame on someone else. 293 00:14:22,462 --> 00:14:24,340 [Jim] And that’s when the tone started to kinda changing, 294 00:14:24,364 --> 00:14:26,408 "well, you must have had some sort of involvement in this. 295 00:14:26,432 --> 00:14:28,972 This sorta thing would have never happened without you knowing." 296 00:14:29,001 --> 00:14:32,001 And i’m like, "well, now you’re kinda putting words in my mouth here. 297 00:14:32,038 --> 00:14:34,078 And you don’t know me from a hole in the wall, man." 298 00:14:34,674 --> 00:14:35,951 [Keenan] I think he was a little bit nervous 299 00:14:35,975 --> 00:14:39,475 that we may have thought he had some involvement in the case. 300 00:14:39,512 --> 00:14:42,622 [Jim] Then the detective, he’s like, "I don’t know what it is about sundays, 301 00:14:42,648 --> 00:14:45,118 but for whatever reason, people always confess on sundays." 302 00:14:46,686 --> 00:14:48,616 I told them, "well, you can’t accuse me of this, 303 00:14:48,654 --> 00:14:50,174 like, i’m tryin’ to help you guys out." 304 00:14:52,392 --> 00:14:56,362 [Tatz] Jim was probably thinking that, "what the hell? What did I do? 305 00:14:56,396 --> 00:15:00,166 What did I get myself in?" You know, "now they’re gonna charge me with something? 306 00:15:00,199 --> 00:15:02,969 [Jim] Well, I had to immediately clear my name. 307 00:15:03,002 --> 00:15:06,042 That was my main concern. 308 00:15:06,072 --> 00:15:10,312 Finally, I said, "look, I can literally just wear a wire, go to his house right now. 309 00:15:10,343 --> 00:15:13,483 And you can hear that I just found out about this last night. 310 00:15:13,513 --> 00:15:16,353 I don’t want you to think that I had anything to do with this." 311 00:15:16,382 --> 00:15:18,794 To my surprise, they’re like, "all right, fine, we’ll do that." 312 00:15:18,818 --> 00:15:21,218 And i’m like, "all right." 313 00:15:21,254 --> 00:15:23,864 [Tatz] I think that may have surprised the police. 314 00:15:23,890 --> 00:15:27,190 That someone they’re interviewing on a murder 315 00:15:27,226 --> 00:15:32,026 is gonna volunteer to wear a wire, and get the real killer to confess. 316 00:15:32,064 --> 00:15:33,834 [Keenan] We thought that it was a good idea, 317 00:15:33,866 --> 00:15:38,396 so we wrote a search warrant to do the wire interception, and we went from there. 318 00:15:38,438 --> 00:15:39,508 I was young and stupid. 319 00:15:39,539 --> 00:15:41,809 It was so stupid of me not to get a lawyer. 320 00:15:41,841 --> 00:15:44,581 I’m tryin’ to clear my conscious, now I gotta clear my name. 321 00:15:47,246 --> 00:15:50,446 [Keenan] It took us a couple a days, to get an operation like that up and running. 322 00:15:51,083 --> 00:15:52,893 Getting the equipment altogether, 323 00:15:52,919 --> 00:15:56,919 and then to make sure that morel was good on board with it. 324 00:15:59,025 --> 00:16:02,235 I convinced the police officers that if I wore a wire, 325 00:16:02,261 --> 00:16:05,231 you’d hear first hand that I had just found out about this information, 326 00:16:05,264 --> 00:16:08,304 and I had nothing to do with this murder, and that was my main goal. 327 00:16:10,136 --> 00:16:12,766 They set up this wireless microphone thing. 328 00:16:12,805 --> 00:16:14,865 I remember it was about the size of a deck a cards. 329 00:16:14,907 --> 00:16:17,277 With a thin wire that runs up your shirt, 330 00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:20,210 and right to your sternum, it’s kinda taped down. 331 00:16:20,246 --> 00:16:22,206 That’s when this became very real, 332 00:16:22,248 --> 00:16:25,448 and I realized this isn’t the movies, I have to actually do this. 333 00:16:28,054 --> 00:16:29,894 How do I do this? What am I gonna say? 334 00:16:31,591 --> 00:16:34,861 Am I gonna screw this up completely? What’s gonna happen if he finds out? 335 00:16:34,894 --> 00:16:36,934 Is there gonna be some sort of physical altercation? 336 00:16:46,873 --> 00:16:49,313 [Narrator] Jim morel is stressed. 337 00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:53,852 He’s about to have the most consequential conversation of his life. 338 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,620 And detective Paul Keenan is listening to his every word. 339 00:16:58,651 --> 00:17:01,421 We were in a car behind, and following him with another trooper. 340 00:17:01,454 --> 00:17:02,994 We were recording the information 341 00:17:03,022 --> 00:17:05,522 in a recording device in the backseat of the car. 342 00:17:05,558 --> 00:17:08,388 We were actually listening live time to the conversation. 343 00:17:09,729 --> 00:17:11,699 We had visual on them the entire time, 344 00:17:11,731 --> 00:17:15,671 but we could not communicate with either one of them, especially with Jim morel. 345 00:17:15,701 --> 00:17:16,981 So it was a one way conversation. 346 00:17:18,137 --> 00:17:20,807 There was no safe word, there was no, like, "get out now." 347 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,070 It’s not the movies, you know. 348 00:17:29,649 --> 00:17:32,227 [Jim] Jason picks me up from my house after i’ve already been wired up. 349 00:17:32,251 --> 00:17:34,121 He said he needed to pick up drummer gloves, 350 00:17:34,153 --> 00:17:35,693 and I said, "yeah, sure, let’s go out." 351 00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:38,286 Immediately i’m thinking, 352 00:17:38,324 --> 00:17:39,902 "okay, let’s just get this done, let’s get this over with." 353 00:17:39,926 --> 00:17:43,226 I’m probably sweating profusely, who knows what I look like. 354 00:17:43,262 --> 00:17:45,332 Uh, Jay doesn’t seem to notice. 355 00:17:45,364 --> 00:17:49,874 I remember saying to him, "a couple days ago, you told me something very disturbing." 356 00:18:04,717 --> 00:18:09,587 I still had the idea that maybe this was all still some sort of just sick joke. 357 00:18:09,622 --> 00:18:11,162 Maybe he was just pulling my leg. 358 00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:14,360 You have to understand, this guy was still a very close friend of mine. 359 00:18:14,393 --> 00:18:16,033 I cared deeply for this guy. 360 00:18:27,940 --> 00:18:30,110 [Narrator] Jason starts to give details 361 00:18:30,142 --> 00:18:33,882 on the nefarious plot to kill Marina. 362 00:18:33,913 --> 00:18:39,423 It all begins on the afternoon of December 19th, 2001. 363 00:18:39,452 --> 00:18:44,022 Thomas lally, Anthony calabro, and Jason Weir 364 00:18:44,056 --> 00:18:47,456 are hanging out in marina’s kitchen, as they often do. 365 00:18:47,493 --> 00:18:51,133 But this day is anything but typical. 366 00:18:51,163 --> 00:18:54,503 And for Marina, it will be her last day. 367 00:19:18,257 --> 00:19:21,757 [Narrator] That’s when Anthony, or ant, exits the room. 368 00:19:21,794 --> 00:19:24,434 Leaving Jason to witness what comes next. 369 00:19:46,152 --> 00:19:49,122 Jason talked about the murder and told him that Tom lally 370 00:19:49,155 --> 00:19:51,365 whacked Marina over the head with a frying pan 371 00:19:51,390 --> 00:19:53,260 while they were in the apartment together. 372 00:19:53,292 --> 00:19:55,892 And that Anthony was outside as the lookout. 373 00:19:56,696 --> 00:19:57,826 I did not expect that. 374 00:20:42,441 --> 00:20:44,841 [Linton] I can’t imagine having that conversation. 375 00:20:44,877 --> 00:20:46,947 That takes some... That takes some guts. 376 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,920 [Narrator] Jim now has, on-tape, the story of how 377 00:20:50,950 --> 00:20:56,820 Marina calabro was killed in cold blood by Tom lally. 378 00:20:56,856 --> 00:20:59,286 It was a kind of a hard pill to swallow, um... 379 00:21:00,226 --> 00:21:01,226 Cause... 380 00:21:02,294 --> 00:21:04,764 I didn’t think they’d be capable of something like that. 381 00:21:06,298 --> 00:21:08,028 [Linton] They drove around for quite a bit. 382 00:21:08,067 --> 00:21:11,067 With the police in surveillance, listening in. 383 00:21:12,571 --> 00:21:14,116 [Jim] It’s like, all right, i’m done. I did my part. 384 00:21:14,140 --> 00:21:15,540 And I don’t need to do any more. 385 00:21:15,574 --> 00:21:17,285 All that i’m concerned with at this point is just clearing my name. 386 00:21:17,309 --> 00:21:18,939 That’s all I wanted to do. 387 00:21:18,978 --> 00:21:20,522 So I didn’t want to go above and beyond. 388 00:21:20,546 --> 00:21:22,506 I didn’t want to dig this guy’s grave. 389 00:21:22,548 --> 00:21:26,448 This guy was still a really good friend of mine, you know? 390 00:21:26,485 --> 00:21:29,855 [Keenan] We need a little bit more. We needed the murder weapons. 391 00:21:29,889 --> 00:21:33,789 The murder weapon’s always key, because that ties everything together. 392 00:21:35,561 --> 00:21:37,531 [Jim] We decide to do what we were planning to do, 393 00:21:37,563 --> 00:21:39,733 which was to, uh, get some drummer gloves. 394 00:21:41,734 --> 00:21:44,244 We get to the store, and jay’s going through 395 00:21:44,270 --> 00:21:47,150 and he’s looking at all the different gloves that they offer for drummers. 396 00:21:48,174 --> 00:21:50,414 This guy comes from around a corner, 397 00:21:50,442 --> 00:21:52,112 a man who i’d never seen before. 398 00:21:52,144 --> 00:21:54,484 And as he was walking past me, he just said... 399 00:21:54,513 --> 00:21:55,583 keep him talkin’. 400 00:21:55,614 --> 00:21:57,054 Can we get into it a little bit more? 401 00:21:58,617 --> 00:22:01,317 [Jim] The whole conversation lasted no more than six seconds. 402 00:22:01,353 --> 00:22:04,793 He never looked me in the eye, and walked by as if it had never happened. 403 00:22:07,293 --> 00:22:08,663 I remember being really shocked. 404 00:22:08,694 --> 00:22:11,904 Nobody told me there would be an undercover officer waiting there, 405 00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:13,775 that was gonna come up and try to communicate with me, 406 00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:15,310 while I was wearing a wire in the middle 407 00:22:15,334 --> 00:22:17,604 of this whole thing, and then just disappear. 408 00:22:21,207 --> 00:22:22,467 We get back in the truck. 409 00:22:22,508 --> 00:22:23,838 [Truck starting] 410 00:22:23,876 --> 00:22:26,316 And i’m thinking about what that undercover officer said to me. 411 00:22:28,147 --> 00:22:30,091 I thought to myself, one of two things is gonna happen. 412 00:22:30,115 --> 00:22:33,745 He’s going to believe me, and we’re just gonna talk more about this, 413 00:22:33,786 --> 00:22:35,946 or, he’s gonna figure out what i’m doing immediately. 414 00:22:35,988 --> 00:22:37,558 And it’s gonna... It’s gonna end bad. 415 00:22:39,892 --> 00:22:42,792 Safety for him was one of our key thoughts and considerations, 416 00:22:42,828 --> 00:22:47,198 because when things go bad if... if they go bad quickly sometimes, 417 00:22:47,233 --> 00:22:50,203 and if he was discovered to have had the wire... 418 00:22:50,236 --> 00:22:53,366 We didn’t know him that well, how he would have reacted. 419 00:22:53,405 --> 00:22:55,805 To my surprise, he opens up again. 420 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:24,370 We’re driving and all of a sudden, Jay gets a phone call. 421 00:23:25,204 --> 00:23:26,814 [Phone ringing] 422 00:23:26,839 --> 00:23:29,169 He’s yelling... 423 00:23:29,208 --> 00:23:31,586 [Jim] ...There seems to be some sort of yelling match going back and forth. 424 00:23:31,610 --> 00:23:34,380 I have no idea who it is, what the conversation’s about. 425 00:23:34,413 --> 00:23:40,153 He hangs up and says, "dude, we gotta make a pit stop." 426 00:23:40,185 --> 00:23:44,655 [Narrator] Had someone called to warn Jason that Jim was working with the police? 427 00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:48,460 Maybe someone had seen him and the detective talking at the music store. 428 00:23:49,361 --> 00:23:51,261 I know he at least has a knife on him. 429 00:23:51,297 --> 00:23:53,057 A hundred percent. Always has a knife on him. 430 00:23:54,366 --> 00:23:56,496 Everything really started to sink in, 431 00:23:56,535 --> 00:24:00,365 that I was wearing the wire, that this was incredibly dangerous, 432 00:24:00,406 --> 00:24:03,136 and that I put myself in a very vulnerable position. 433 00:24:11,550 --> 00:24:14,090 [Narrator] After receiving a mysterious phone call, 434 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,719 Jason Weir pulls into an apartment complex in nearby attleboro. 435 00:24:20,693 --> 00:24:22,663 [Keenan] They did go to a third party’s house. 436 00:24:22,695 --> 00:24:26,205 And we did have concerns because we didn’t have a search warrant 437 00:24:26,231 --> 00:24:29,131 to intercept the audio transmissions in that house. 438 00:24:31,036 --> 00:24:34,766 We turned off the audio recordings at that point. 439 00:24:39,712 --> 00:24:43,382 [Narrator] Jim morel has no choice but to follow him inside, 440 00:24:44,116 --> 00:24:45,946 or risk blowing his cover. 441 00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:51,823 Inside, Jason disappears into a bedroom and closes the door. 442 00:24:56,295 --> 00:24:59,735 Had Jason just been tipped off that Jim is wearing a wire? 443 00:25:02,267 --> 00:25:05,537 And even if Jason isn’t onto Jim, 444 00:25:05,571 --> 00:25:09,671 Jim is all alone in a strange apartment, surrounded by strangers. 445 00:25:12,911 --> 00:25:15,511 Seconds tick by like hours. 446 00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:22,490 [Jim] Then, the door opens. 447 00:25:25,624 --> 00:25:28,024 Jay comes out of the room, he’s like, "all right, fine. Fine." 448 00:25:28,694 --> 00:25:29,934 And we leave. 449 00:25:29,962 --> 00:25:31,172 I ask, "like, what was that about?" 450 00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:32,941 And he literally says, "don’t worry about it." 451 00:25:32,965 --> 00:25:34,005 And i’m thinkin’, "fine." 452 00:25:36,769 --> 00:25:38,669 [Keenan] Thankfully, he was returned safe. 453 00:25:38,704 --> 00:25:41,944 They get back into the car, and please keep him talkin’, we need a little bit more. 454 00:25:42,941 --> 00:25:45,611 We also needed to know individually what roles 455 00:25:45,644 --> 00:25:48,784 Anthony calabro, Jason Weir and Thomas lally played in 456 00:25:48,814 --> 00:25:50,154 the homicide of Marina calabro. 457 00:26:13,238 --> 00:26:16,138 I was so disgusted hearing about how marina’s last moments were... 458 00:26:16,675 --> 00:26:17,975 in that way. 459 00:26:18,010 --> 00:26:20,650 When I had heard that, i’m like, "these people are ruthless, 460 00:26:20,679 --> 00:26:22,649 cold-blooded. They’re killers." 461 00:26:58,350 --> 00:27:01,850 The tone shifted. The details started to come in. 462 00:27:01,887 --> 00:27:07,427 And my thought process quickly changed to, "how could you do this, man?" 463 00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:10,899 If you’re there as a last breath of someone escaped their body 464 00:27:10,929 --> 00:27:14,269 while they’re pleading for somebody and you’re just sitting right there, 465 00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:15,910 there’s something incredibly wrong with that, 466 00:27:15,934 --> 00:27:17,874 as just a human being to a human being level. 467 00:27:47,466 --> 00:27:50,236 It went from less of a being in the wrong place at the wrong time 468 00:27:50,269 --> 00:27:53,739 to more of a bragging way of saying how this went down. 469 00:27:53,772 --> 00:27:55,172 And how they got away with it. 470 00:28:04,116 --> 00:28:08,316 I’m so disgusted as to what she had to hear... 471 00:28:08,353 --> 00:28:11,923 in her last moments, that my empathy was gone. 472 00:28:43,522 --> 00:28:44,922 Nah, man ...You. 473 00:28:44,957 --> 00:28:46,987 I’m starting to see the real reason behind this. 474 00:28:47,025 --> 00:28:48,485 You wanted that money. 475 00:28:48,527 --> 00:28:51,927 You’re willing to end somebody else’s life for that. 476 00:28:51,964 --> 00:28:55,674 [Narrator] Not only did the three boys work together to plan the murder, 477 00:28:55,701 --> 00:28:59,541 but they had also researched the best way to clean up the scene. 478 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,980 These kids had watched forensic files, you know, 479 00:29:45,017 --> 00:29:47,787 and... and they could get a fun ways to get away with murder. 480 00:29:53,058 --> 00:29:54,858 They thought they were educating themselves... 481 00:30:09,074 --> 00:30:11,984 They completely disgust me and it just changed everything. 482 00:30:35,267 --> 00:30:38,237 I was literally just so angry and disgusted, that i’m like... 483 00:30:38,270 --> 00:30:40,040 "Let’s just end it all right now." 484 00:30:40,072 --> 00:30:42,342 If we’re gonna do this, let’s just do this the right way. 485 00:31:02,928 --> 00:31:04,428 [Narrator] It’s a stunning confession, 486 00:31:04,463 --> 00:31:06,503 but there’s just one more detail 487 00:31:06,531 --> 00:31:08,431 Jim needs to seal the case. 488 00:31:10,702 --> 00:31:13,472 At that point, I said, "okay, why don’t I just cut to the chase? 489 00:31:13,505 --> 00:31:15,315 Where are the murder weapons?" 490 00:31:29,321 --> 00:31:33,061 [Narrator] Despite the risks, Jim keeps pushing for more. 491 00:31:53,745 --> 00:31:57,545 To my surprise, again, he’s like, "i’ll... I can show you." 492 00:31:57,582 --> 00:31:58,752 Like, all right. Let’s go. 493 00:32:00,552 --> 00:32:03,662 [Narrator] With that, Jason turns off the main road 494 00:32:03,688 --> 00:32:06,018 and heads deep into a wooded area. 495 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:11,230 Once again, Jim is completely alone. 496 00:32:12,697 --> 00:32:14,742 [Keenan] We had no idea where he was gonna take him to show him 497 00:32:14,766 --> 00:32:16,377 where they disposed of the murder weapons. 498 00:32:16,401 --> 00:32:18,471 We had no idea that that place existed, 499 00:32:18,503 --> 00:32:20,373 where are we goin’, why are we going here? 500 00:32:22,174 --> 00:32:24,644 We get very concerned when we started going off-route, 501 00:32:24,676 --> 00:32:26,076 you know, it was gettin’ dark. 502 00:32:26,111 --> 00:32:28,481 It was a desolate area, we didn’t know 503 00:32:28,513 --> 00:32:30,853 what we were gonna find when we got there, 504 00:32:30,882 --> 00:32:32,052 or how it was gonna go down. 505 00:32:32,083 --> 00:32:34,493 How sometimes things just happen very, very quickly 506 00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:36,349 that you have no complete control over. 507 00:32:37,956 --> 00:32:41,026 We stayed back, we kept him as best as we could in sight, 508 00:32:41,059 --> 00:32:44,699 but we had audio on him all the time. 509 00:32:44,729 --> 00:32:48,569 [Narrator] Jim drives into the darkness with a confessed killer. 510 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,700 He has no idea what’s awaiting him at the end of the road. 511 00:33:03,348 --> 00:33:05,978 [Narrator] After driving into a heavily wooded area, 512 00:33:06,017 --> 00:33:08,787 Jason Weir stops the car near a small pond. 513 00:33:10,622 --> 00:33:15,062 It’s there that the final pieces of the puzzle can be found. 514 00:33:15,093 --> 00:33:18,633 My nerves are kind of shot, it’s been a whirlwind of emotions... 515 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:21,598 and he just starts pointing out, 516 00:33:21,633 --> 00:33:23,973 "there’s a pan over there on that side, 517 00:33:24,002 --> 00:33:25,672 uh, there’s tea kettle over there." 518 00:33:25,704 --> 00:33:27,315 He’s pointing to these different locations 519 00:33:27,339 --> 00:33:29,269 as to where these weapons may have been. 520 00:33:35,547 --> 00:33:39,017 [Jim] When he told me, for the final time, uh, it became bragging. 521 00:33:39,050 --> 00:33:41,095 We did get away with this, because we know how to handle this. 522 00:33:41,119 --> 00:33:42,263 We know what we’re doing, you know? 523 00:33:42,287 --> 00:33:43,965 We know how to place a body to make it look like 524 00:33:43,989 --> 00:33:45,933 what it needs to look like, you know? We’re smart guys. 525 00:33:45,957 --> 00:33:48,327 And I thought to myself, like, "why are you telling me this?" 526 00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:14,453 [Jim] We drive out of the woods, and we just get back 527 00:34:14,486 --> 00:34:17,586 on the main road, and he just drives me home. 528 00:34:19,157 --> 00:34:21,457 I didn’t know how to keep conversation going. 529 00:34:21,493 --> 00:34:23,471 I didn’t know what I believed, I don’t know if I made 530 00:34:23,495 --> 00:34:26,335 a huge mistake by going this far with it. 531 00:34:27,532 --> 00:34:29,902 I couldn’t even understand why I went this far with it. 532 00:34:31,336 --> 00:34:33,496 But, he had dropped me back off at home. 533 00:34:35,340 --> 00:34:37,580 And then I just simply walked into my house. 534 00:34:45,216 --> 00:34:47,846 Luckily, everything went exactly how we had hoped 535 00:34:47,886 --> 00:34:49,516 it would go, and even better. 536 00:34:51,122 --> 00:34:52,922 You know, we were able to get, essentially, 537 00:34:52,958 --> 00:34:55,988 a full confession in the murderer’s voice. 538 00:34:56,027 --> 00:35:00,027 And no one got hurt, all the information was gleaned lawfully. 539 00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:02,675 And we were very pleased with how it came out. 540 00:35:02,701 --> 00:35:06,641 It’s surprising that someone so young would be able to pull it off. 541 00:35:07,772 --> 00:35:09,872 [Jim] Well the cops were very, very happy with me. 542 00:35:09,908 --> 00:35:11,252 Uh, and like I said, I was just trying 543 00:35:11,276 --> 00:35:12,520 to clear my name the whole time. 544 00:35:12,544 --> 00:35:14,584 I’m like, "so you guys 100% believe me now, right? 545 00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:16,383 So you’re not investigating me for murder?" 546 00:35:16,414 --> 00:35:19,624 It’s like, "nah, man. Your hands are clean, like, we totally get it." 547 00:35:19,651 --> 00:35:23,451 I think Jim morel showed a lot of character. Showed a lot of strength. 548 00:35:23,488 --> 00:35:26,858 You know, you’re turning your friends in for a murder that they committed. 549 00:35:26,891 --> 00:35:30,431 It’s not the easiest thing in the world to do, I can imagine. 550 00:35:30,462 --> 00:35:31,862 But it’s certainly the right thing, 551 00:35:31,896 --> 00:35:33,376 and the only thing that you should do. 552 00:35:39,738 --> 00:35:43,138 [Narrator] Not only did Jim secure a full confession, 553 00:35:43,174 --> 00:35:48,214 but he was also able to determine the approximate location of the frying pan, 554 00:35:48,246 --> 00:35:51,216 and the teapot used to kill Marina. 555 00:35:51,249 --> 00:35:53,779 Well, the police of course went and found the murder weapon. 556 00:35:56,121 --> 00:35:59,961 We had Jason weir’s statements, we had a pretty good handle on the case, 557 00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:03,631 but... finding the murder weapons was basically key. 558 00:36:03,662 --> 00:36:05,932 We went down at the pond, we get there early, 559 00:36:05,964 --> 00:36:10,304 the state police dive team arrived with a number of professional scuba divers. 560 00:36:10,335 --> 00:36:11,905 They went into the pond. 561 00:36:11,936 --> 00:36:16,066 They spent a good portion of the day doing grid searches and going back and forth 562 00:36:16,107 --> 00:36:18,777 underwater to try and recover the evidence we were looking for. 563 00:36:18,810 --> 00:36:20,850 We couldn’t find it. 564 00:36:20,879 --> 00:36:23,209 They needed to find where these murder weapons were. 565 00:36:24,349 --> 00:36:25,793 [Narrator] Without the murder weapons, 566 00:36:25,817 --> 00:36:29,687 the case rests solely on jason’s recorded statements. 567 00:36:29,721 --> 00:36:31,821 Anthony and Tom could simply say 568 00:36:31,856 --> 00:36:35,626 it was all just some wild story that Jason made up. 569 00:36:35,660 --> 00:36:38,000 We kinda had a very strong suspicion it was there. 570 00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:41,029 It was just frustrating not being able to locate it. 571 00:36:41,066 --> 00:36:42,866 One of the detectives in Norton had said, 572 00:36:42,901 --> 00:36:44,971 "we can drain that pond down a little bit, 573 00:36:45,003 --> 00:36:48,373 maybe make it a little bit easier for your search." 574 00:36:48,406 --> 00:36:53,606 We actually worked with conservation to have the dam let out a little bit, 575 00:36:53,645 --> 00:36:56,155 so we could get further in, in the event they threw 576 00:36:56,181 --> 00:36:58,951 the murder weapons into the pond farther. 577 00:36:58,983 --> 00:37:01,353 The state police dive team was in the water. 578 00:37:01,386 --> 00:37:04,986 We haven’t had much luck, it’s like the second time we’ve been down there. 579 00:37:05,023 --> 00:37:07,863 And, uh, one of our detectives who’s a court prosecutor, 580 00:37:07,892 --> 00:37:11,662 Gary barr, comes down, and I told Gary what we were looking for, 581 00:37:11,696 --> 00:37:13,826 and Gary pointed, "oh, you mean like that?" 582 00:37:18,937 --> 00:37:19,977 And they were right there. 583 00:37:26,878 --> 00:37:29,848 [Jim] After everything was done, a day or so goes by. 584 00:37:29,881 --> 00:37:31,351 Um, they’re still not arrested, 585 00:37:31,382 --> 00:37:33,222 and the police are just essentially 586 00:37:33,251 --> 00:37:35,921 telling me, uh, just to live your normal life. 587 00:37:35,954 --> 00:37:38,364 Keep hanging out with ’em, and at this point, i’m like, "no." 588 00:37:38,389 --> 00:37:40,659 Nope. I’m done. 589 00:37:40,692 --> 00:37:43,662 At some point, Jay is gonna tell people that he told me. 590 00:37:43,695 --> 00:37:46,705 Alright? And i’m not gonna put myself any more in this thing. 591 00:37:46,731 --> 00:37:48,042 I thought, i’m like, "i’m not a cop." 592 00:37:48,066 --> 00:37:50,366 You know? I’m just... I’m just a guy. 593 00:37:50,401 --> 00:37:52,241 You know? This isn’t my job. 594 00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:54,040 So I decide to... To get out of town. 595 00:37:54,072 --> 00:37:55,742 I go to New Hampshire for a while. 596 00:37:55,774 --> 00:37:57,614 Until they finally arrested them. 597 00:37:57,642 --> 00:38:01,012 Once we got that critical piece of evidence, the murder weapons, 598 00:38:01,045 --> 00:38:02,423 at that point that’s when we we went 599 00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:04,277 and got arrest warrants for the three of them. 600 00:38:04,315 --> 00:38:06,045 [Tires screeching] 601 00:38:24,102 --> 00:38:27,942 [Keenan] Anthony calabro was arrested at home by two state troopers. 602 00:38:27,972 --> 00:38:30,512 I was on scene with lally when he was arrested. 603 00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:34,480 We took him out and brought him back to the station. 604 00:38:34,512 --> 00:38:35,882 We attempted to talk with him. 605 00:38:35,914 --> 00:38:37,658 He did talk to us for a brief period of time, 606 00:38:37,682 --> 00:38:40,452 but the story that he told us was completely inconsistent 607 00:38:40,485 --> 00:38:42,595 with what information we had at the time, 608 00:38:42,620 --> 00:38:45,720 so we knew that he wasn’t being truthful with us. 609 00:38:45,757 --> 00:38:47,487 Anthony calabro refused to talk. 610 00:38:47,525 --> 00:38:51,325 As soon as he was arrested, he requested a lawyer and never spoke with us. 611 00:38:51,362 --> 00:38:54,332 Jason did speak to us. He kind of outlined his involvement. 612 00:38:54,365 --> 00:38:57,295 He downplayed his actual involvement in the case. 613 00:38:57,335 --> 00:38:59,165 He basically told us what lally did. 614 00:39:04,209 --> 00:39:05,386 [Jim] Heard on the radio, actually, 615 00:39:05,410 --> 00:39:07,421 that three people had been arrested for this murder. 616 00:39:07,445 --> 00:39:10,005 I’m like, "all right, I guess I could go back home now." 617 00:39:10,048 --> 00:39:13,578 I waited a couple of days, though, still, just for things to kind of clear up. 618 00:39:13,618 --> 00:39:17,758 We never disclosed to Jason Weir that Jim morel had actually worn a wire. 619 00:39:17,789 --> 00:39:20,089 Whether he suspected that or not, I don’t know. 620 00:39:20,124 --> 00:39:23,794 But we never told Jason Weir that Jim morel was wearing the wire, 621 00:39:23,828 --> 00:39:26,598 because we didn’t wanna put Jim morel in harm’s way. 622 00:39:26,631 --> 00:39:28,301 Not only did I not have to testify, 623 00:39:28,333 --> 00:39:33,443 I also never had to come face-to-face with any of them ever again. 624 00:39:33,471 --> 00:39:37,881 They were all arraigned on murder charges in Quincy district court. 625 00:39:37,909 --> 00:39:40,379 Thomas lally is tried first. 626 00:39:40,411 --> 00:39:42,223 [Reporter] Thomas lally from Norton was convicted 627 00:39:42,247 --> 00:39:43,877 of first-degree murder for the killing 628 00:39:43,915 --> 00:39:47,325 of Marina calabro in her Quincy home back in 2011. 629 00:39:49,387 --> 00:39:52,687 A month or two later, Anthony calabro pleads guilty 630 00:39:52,724 --> 00:39:54,664 to second-degree murder. 631 00:39:54,692 --> 00:39:57,732 He admitted to his role in being the lookout, 632 00:39:57,762 --> 00:40:02,072 and being part of a plot to, uh, kill his great-aunt. 633 00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:07,000 Jason Weir ultimately pleaded guilty to being accessory after the fact. 634 00:40:07,038 --> 00:40:09,238 Jason Weir was given a seven-year sentence. 635 00:40:09,274 --> 00:40:12,514 Anthony calabro was also convicted of second-degree murder. 636 00:40:12,543 --> 00:40:14,553 He was given life with parole. 637 00:40:14,579 --> 00:40:16,409 Eligible for parole after 15 years. 638 00:40:16,447 --> 00:40:19,017 Thomas lally was convicted of first-degree murder. 639 00:40:19,050 --> 00:40:21,250 He was given a sentence of life without parole. 640 00:40:25,757 --> 00:40:27,857 It was a sad way for Marina calabro, 641 00:40:27,892 --> 00:40:30,632 who was a loving, caring woman to have her life ended. 642 00:40:31,596 --> 00:40:33,326 I think that justice was served. 643 00:40:33,364 --> 00:40:36,674 I think that the three people that were involved in bringing her life to an end 644 00:40:36,701 --> 00:40:39,501 were held accountable for their actions. 645 00:40:39,537 --> 00:40:41,867 Two out of the three are still in jail now, 646 00:40:41,906 --> 00:40:44,306 and I think that that day justice was served. 647 00:40:45,977 --> 00:40:48,847 [Narrator] Jim knows that his friends now understand 648 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,050 that he was the one who wore the wire, and brought them down. 649 00:40:53,084 --> 00:40:55,724 But despite all the risks, he’s okay 650 00:40:55,753 --> 00:40:58,163 with the consequences of that decision. 651 00:40:58,756 --> 00:41:00,416 When I got home, 652 00:41:00,458 --> 00:41:02,288 I started doubting everything I did. 653 00:41:02,327 --> 00:41:04,827 I had some inner conflicts. 654 00:41:05,964 --> 00:41:08,504 I’ve had 20 years to process everything. 655 00:41:09,734 --> 00:41:11,044 Uh, i’m married, you know? 656 00:41:11,069 --> 00:41:13,469 I’ve gotten, you know, my... 657 00:41:13,504 --> 00:41:14,715 Things are... things are good for me. 658 00:41:14,739 --> 00:41:16,139 I’m doin’... I’m doin’ all right. 659 00:41:16,174 --> 00:41:20,044 Um, so I really have no complaints the way my life has turned out. 660 00:41:20,078 --> 00:41:22,148 And, uh, I probably wouldn’t be who I am today 661 00:41:22,180 --> 00:41:24,780 if it weren’t for those circumstances. 662 00:41:24,816 --> 00:41:27,986 I think he was a brave young man for taking the chance that he took. 663 00:41:28,019 --> 00:41:30,489 I... I think he was an honest guy, you know? 664 00:41:30,521 --> 00:41:31,891 I think he had a conscience. 665 00:41:31,923 --> 00:41:34,493 And he should be proud that he helped bring 666 00:41:34,525 --> 00:41:37,655 three people that murdered an older woman to justice. 667 00:41:38,663 --> 00:41:40,163 I think he’s underplaying it a bit. 668 00:41:40,198 --> 00:41:41,928 What if he just... 669 00:41:41,966 --> 00:41:44,178 never volunteered and just walked out of the police station? 670 00:41:44,202 --> 00:41:45,502 For god’s sakes! 671 00:41:45,536 --> 00:41:46,766 They had nothing! 672 00:41:47,438 --> 00:41:48,768 No evidence. 673 00:41:48,806 --> 00:41:51,706 I don’t know if they would’ve solved it, you know, without him. 674 00:41:57,215 --> 00:41:59,155 [Jim] There is no winner in any of this. 675 00:41:59,183 --> 00:42:02,493 There is no happy ending. Nobody came out on top. 676 00:42:04,122 --> 00:42:07,062 At the end of the day, three people went to jail for a very long time. 677 00:42:07,892 --> 00:42:10,062 One will never get out of jail. 678 00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:16,000 At the end of the day, a woman was murdered for no reason. 59438

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