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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
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>> John: WELCOME, WELCOME,
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WELCOME TO "LAST WEEK TONIGHT."
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I'M JOHN OLIVER.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING
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US.
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IT'S BEEN ANOTHER BUSY WEEK.
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BORIS JOHNSON NARROWLY SURVIVED
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A NO-CONFIDENCE VOTE, THE U.S.
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POSTAL SERVICE UNVEILED A NANCY
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REAGAN STAMP IN AN APPARENT
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ATTEMPT TO CANCEL OUT PRIDE
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MONTH, AND THE HOUSE COMMITTEE
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INVESTIGATING JANUARY 6TH HELD
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ITS FIRST PRIME-TIME HEARING,
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PROMPTING A CRISIS FOR
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CONSERVATIVE MEDIA.
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FOX NEWS OPTED NOT TO AIR IT AT
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ALL, AND OAN WENT ONE BETTER,
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AIRING A TRIBUTE TO TRUMP
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INSTEAD, FEATURING THIS
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EXQUISITE TRANSITION TO
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COMMERCIALS.
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>> YOU HAVE INSPIRED COUNTLESS
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MILLIONS AND SHOWN OUR NATION
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WHAT IT TRULY MEANS TO MAKE
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AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
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FOR ONE AMERICA NEWS, I'M
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PEARSON SHARP.
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>> GENERIC VIAGRA DELIVERED
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WITHIN 48 HOURS IN DISCREET
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PACKAGING ON APPROVAL.
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NO ONE WILL KNOW BUT YOU.
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OH, AND YOUR MAILBOX.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> John: PERFECT.
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ABSOLUTELY NO NOTES.
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WITH THE SOLE EXCEPTION OF,
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MAYBE SPARE A THOUGHT FOR THE
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MAILBOX THERE.
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IT JUST GOT GIVEN A RAGING FLAG
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BONER BY DISCREETLY PACKAGED
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PILLS, AND NOW IT JUST NEEDS TO
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SIT THERE FRUSTRATED AND HOPE
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FOR A PIGEON TO LAND JUST RIGHT.
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[LAUGHTER]
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BUT WE'RE GOING TO START BY
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CHECKING IN ON THE
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MIDTERM ELECTIONS AGAIN.
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THIS TIME, IN ARIZONA, CURRENTLY
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REPRESENTED BY TWO DEMOCRATS IN
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THE SENATE.
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KYRSTEN SINEMA, THE ONLY
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SENATOR WHO SEEMS TO BUY ALL HER
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CLOTHES EXCLUSIVELY FROM
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GIRLBOSS PYRAMID SCHEMES.
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[LAUGHTER]
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AND MARK KELLY, WHO'S UP FOR
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REELECTION.
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REPUBLICANS THINK THEY HAVE A
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REAL CHANCE OF UNSEATING HIM,
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WHICH HAS LED TO A COMPETITIVE
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PRIMARY.
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THE BEST-KNOWN CONTENDER IS
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PROBABLY MARK BRNOVICH,
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ARIZONA'S CURRENT AG, WHOSE
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WHOLE VIBE CAN PROBABLY BEST BE
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SUMMED UP BY THIS VIDEO HE
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RELEASED TO CELEBRATE THE END OF
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THE STATE'S BAN ON NUNCHUCKS,
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WHICH PROVED SO POPULAR, HE
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LATER RELEASED THIS SEQUEL:
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>> PEOPLE, YOU WANT MORE
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CHUCKS?
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> John: I KNOW THAT'S
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RIDICULOUS, BUT I'M PERSONALLY
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ENJOYING DANNY McBRIDE'S NEWEST
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CHARACTER AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE
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WHERE HE GOES WITH IT.
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BUT BURNOVICH FACES RESISTANCE
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FROM DIE-HARD TRUMP SUPPORTERS,
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WHO FEEL HE DIDN'T DO ENOUGH TO
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TRY AND OVERTURN THE 2020
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ELECTION.
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WHICH HAS OPENED UP SPACE FOR
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CANDIDATES LIKE JIM LAMON,
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A RETIRED ENERGY EXECUTIVE WHO
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HAS MADE WAVES WITH THIS TV
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SPOT:
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>> THE GOOD PEOPLE OF ARIZONA
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HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOU.
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IT'S TIME FOR A SHOWDOWN.
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I'M JIM LAMON AND I APPROVE THIS
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MESSAGE.
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>> John: WELL, YOU SHOULDN'T
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HAVE APPROVED IT, JIM, BECAUSE
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YOUR AD IS TERRIBLE.
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"SHIFTY KELLY" IS SUPPOSED TO BE
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MARK KELLY, WHO'S MARRIED TO
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GABBY GIFFORDS, WHO SURVIVED
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BEING SHOT IN THE HEAD IN 2011.
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SO SHOOTING AT HER HUSBAND IS,
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AT BEST, INSENSITIVE.
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IT'S FRANKLY AMAZING A GROWN MAN
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DRESSED IN A SHERIFF COSTUME
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THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS
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DISCONTINUED BY PARTY CITY IS
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SOMEHOW JUST THE SECOND MOST
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DISTASTEFUL PART OF THAT AD.
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BUT SURPRISINGLY, TRUMP DIDN'T
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ENDORSE LAMON, EITHER.
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INSTEAD, HE'S ENDORSED
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BLAKE MASTERS.
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AND IF YOU THINK HIS NAME ALONE
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MAKES HIM SOUND LIKE A THIRD
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TIER BOND VILLAIN WAIT UNTIL YOU
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HEAR ABOUT HIS EVERYTHING
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ELSE.
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BECAUSE MASTERS IS A PETER
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THIEL-BACKED, SELF-DESCRIBED
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"CONSERVATIVE NATIONALIST."
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AND SINCE TRUMP'S ENDORSEMENT,
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THINGS HAVE STARTED TO SURFACE
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ABOUT HIM, LIKE THIS AUDIO, FROM
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A PODCAST THAT HE APPEARED ON
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BACK IN APRIL.
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>> WE DO HAVE A GUN VIOLENCE IN
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THIS COUNTRY AND IT'S GANG
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VIOLENCE.
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RIGHT?
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IT'S GANGS, IT'S PEOPLE IN
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CHICAGO, ST. LOUIS, SHOOTING
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EACH OTHER.
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VERY OFTEN, YOU KNOW, BLACK
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PEOPLE, FRANKLY.
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>> John: OKAY, BLAMING BLACK
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PEOPLE FOR GUN VIOLENCE IN
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AMERICA IS JUST OUTRAGEOUSLY,
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UNCREATIVELY RACIST.
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BUT ALSO UNSURPRISING FROM
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SOMEONE WHO -- AND THIS IS
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TRUE -- WAS CALLED AN
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"IMMIGRATION PATRIOT" BY THE
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WHITE NATIONALIST WEBSITE
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V-DARE, WHICH PRAISED HIM,
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SAYING HE "CHECKS ALL THE RIGHT
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BOXES."
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AND "HE'S AN IMMIGRATION PATRIOT
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WHO CHECKS ALL THE WHITE
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SUPREMACIST BOXES" JUST ISN'T
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WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT A
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MAN RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
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YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO HEAR IT
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IN A "SEX AND THE CITY"
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VOICEOVER.
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THAT NIGHT, CHARLOTTE MET
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BLAKE, WHO WAS AN IMMIGRATION
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PATRIOT WHO CHECKED ALL THE
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BOXES, AND I COULDN'T HELP BUT
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WONDER: WERE WE ALL JUST
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SEARCHING FOR OUR WHITE KNIGHT?
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[LAUGHTER]
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MASTERS ALSO EMBRACES A NATIONAL
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ABORTION BAN, HAS QUESTIONED
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WHETHER JANUARY 6TH WAS SET UP
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BY THE FBI.
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AND THEN THERE'S THIS INTERVIEW,
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IN WHICH HE CHOOSES THE EXACT
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WRONG ANSWER TO THE SOFTBALL
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QUESTION, "WHO'S A SUBVERSIVE
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THINKER WHO'S UNDERRATED?"
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>> SUBVERSIVE THINKER THAT'S
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UNDERRATED?
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>> YEAH.
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>> I'LL PROBABLY GET IN TROUBLE
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FOR SAYING THIS.
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I MEAN, I'D SAY, HOW ABOUT,
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LIKE, THEODORE KACZYNSKI?
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>> GOOD!
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GOOD ONE, ACTUALLY, YEAH.
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>> UH, PROBABLY NOT GREAT TO BE
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TALKING ABOUT THE UNABOMBER
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WHILE CAMPAIGNING.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> John: YEAH, PROBABLY NOT!
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ALSO, I'M SORRY, "THEODORE
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KACZYNSKI?"
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WHAT ARE YOU, HIS MOM WHEN HE'S
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IN TROUBLE?
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THEODORE JOHN KACZYNSKI, HAVE
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YOU BEEN SENDING MAIL BOMBS TO
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AIRLINES AND UNIVERSITIES AROUND
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THE COUNTRY FROM A REMOTE CABIN
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IN THE MONTANA WILDERNESS?
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YOU ARE SO GROUNDED, MISTER!
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NAUGHTY THEODORE!
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[LAUGHTER]
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NOW, MASTERS INSISTS HE DOESN'T
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ENDORSE THE "BOMB" ASPECT OF THE
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UNABOMBER, WHICH WAS A PRETTY
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KEY PART OF HIS WHOLE DEAL.
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[LAUGHTER]
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BUT UNSURPRISINGLY, JIM LAMON
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HAS NOW PRODUCED AN ATTACK AD
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FEATURING THAT AND MANY OTHER
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TERRIBLE THINGS MASTERS HAS
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SAID, AND HIS PUSHBACK TO THAT
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WAS FULL OF EVEN MORE RED FLAGS.
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>> LOOK, AS MY COMPETITORS
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SELF-DESTRUCT, I'M SURE THESE
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ATTACKS ARE ONLY GOING TO
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INCREASE.
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RIGHT, THEY'LL INTERVIEW MY
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CLASSMATES FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL.
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THEY'LL PORE OVER WHATEVER I MAY
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HAVE WRITTEN AS A TEENAGER, TRY
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TO TWIST IT ALL OUT OF
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PROPORTION.
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BUT I'M NOT GOING TO GET SUCKED
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INTO THAT KIND OF PETTY, DIRTY
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POLITICS.
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>> John: HOLY SHIT.
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"THEY'LL PORE OVER WHAT I MAY
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HAVE WRITTEN AS A TEENAGER" IS
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JUST NOT A NORMAL THING TO WORRY
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ABOUT.
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[LAUGHTER]
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IT'S LIKE SAYING, "MY PETTY
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OPPONENTS WILL GO FROM DOG POUND
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TO DOG POUND, ASKING THE STAFF
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WHAT I MAY HAVE DONE WITH ALL
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THOSE STRAY DOGS.
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CLASSIC PETTY, DIRTY POLITICS."
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EXCEPT, NO, IT ISN'T, BLAKE!
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IT'S WEIRD, SPECIFIC POLITICS
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THAT WE NOW NEED TO KNOW A LOT
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MORE ABOUT.
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LOOK, THIS PRIMARY IS VERY MUCH
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UP IN THE AIR.
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AND WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'LL
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GO TO NUNCHUCKS McGEE,
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THE WORLD'S MOST PATHETIC
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COWBOY, OR A GUY WHO LIKED THE
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UNABOMBER'S EARLIER, FUNNIER
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STUFF.
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[LAUGHTER]
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WHAT WE DO KNOW, THOUGH, IS
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THINGS ARE GOING TO INTENSIFY IN
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ARIZONA OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF
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MONTHS, THAT THESE RESULTS COULD
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WELL SHIFT THE BALANCE OF POWER
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IN THE SENATE, AND THAT,
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CRUCIALLY, SOMEONE PROBABLY
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NEEDS TO INTERVIEW BLAKE MASTERS
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MIDDLE SCHOOL CLASSMATES AS SOON
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AS POSSIBLE.
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[LAUGHTER]
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AND NOW, THIS.
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>> Announcer: AND NOW, SEAN
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HANNITY'S FAVORITE JOKE.
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>> TO COIN A PHRASE, WAS A TOTAL
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SCHIFF SHOW IF YOU KNOW WHAT I
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MEAN.
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>> WE CALL IT THE 2022 ADAM
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SCHIFF SHOW.
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>> CAPITOL HILL HAS DESCENDED
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INTO A ADAM SCHIFF SHOW.
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>> ADAM SCHIFF SHOW.
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>> THIS LATEST SCHIFF SHOW.
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>> A MOSCOW DOESN'T GIVE A ADAM
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SCHIFF ABOUT SANCTIONS.
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>> SPEAKING OF THEIR ADAM SCHIFF
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HOLE.
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>> BOMBED THE LIVING SCHIFF OUT
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OF ISIS.
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>> OF THAT IS TOTAL BULL-SCHIFF.
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>> TOTAL B.S., OR TOTAL B
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SCHIFF, ADAM SCHIFF.
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GUESS WHAT, SPOTIFY IS IN DEEP
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TROUBLE, OR ADAM SCHIFF, AS
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I CALL IT.
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[LAUGHTER]
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>> John: MOVING ON.
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OUR MAIN STORY TONIGHT CONCERNS
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THE INTERNET, A WORLD-CHANGING
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RESOURCE THAT WAS INITIALLY SOLD
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TO US LIKE THIS:
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>> WE INSTALLED THE INTERNET ON
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OUR COMPUTER JUST A SHORT TIME
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AGO AND I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO
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GET THE KIDS OFF IT EVER SINCE.
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>> NOT ONLY DO THEY PLAY THE
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TYPICAL COMPUTER GAMES THAT ALL
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THE KIDS ENJOY, BUT THEIR
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CURIOSITY FOR LEARNING HAS
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SKYROCKETED.
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PETER IS CONSTANTLY QUOTING
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SPORTS STATISTICS, AND HE CAN
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TELL YOU THE BEST SURFING SPOTS
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AROUND THE GLOBE.
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>> NOT TO MENTION THE
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IMPROVEMENT IN PETER'S GRADES.
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AND DASHA'S, TOO.
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>> John: OKAY, FIRST, PETER WAS
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NOT CHECKING SURFING SPOTS OR
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SPORTS STATISTICS.
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PETER WAS MASTURBATING.
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[LAUGHTER]
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THAT IS WHAT PETER WAS DOING.
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BUT SPARE A THOUGHT FOR DASHA
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THERE, WHO JUST GETS "ALSO GOOD
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GRADES."
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YOU DESERVE BETTER, DASHA.
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I HOPE YOU GREW UP TO BE AN
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EARLY INVESTOR IN CELLPHONES,
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MADE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND
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NEVER SPOKE TO YOUR WEIRD FAMILY
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EVER AGAIN.
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SPECIFICALLY, WE'RE GOING TO
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TALK ABOUT THE FACT OUR
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EXPERIENCES ON THE INTERNET ARE
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NOW DOMINATED BY A VERY SMALL
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HANDFUL OF COMPANIES, WHO ARE
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GETTING PRETTY USED TO THROWING
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THEIR WEIGHT AROUND.
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IN 2020, THE HOUSE JUDICIARY
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SUBCOMMITTEE ON ANTITRUST
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RELEASED A MASSIVE
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450-PAGE REPORT DETAILING
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ANTICOMPETITIVE CONDUCT BY
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APPLE, AMAZON, FACEBOOK, AND
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ALPHABET -- THAT'S THE PARENT
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COMPANY OF GOOGLE.
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AND THE FINDINGS COULDN'T HAVE
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BEEN CLEARER: EACH PLATFORM
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SERVES AS A GATEKEEPER OVER A
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KEY CHANNEL OF DISTRIBUTION,
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ALLOWING THESE GIANTS TO PICK
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WINNERS AND LOSERS THROUGHOUT
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OUR ECONOMY.
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AND I KNOW, FOR SOME, THAT'S
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PART OF THE APPEAL.
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>> APPLE'S THE EMPIRE OF THE
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SMARTPHONE WITH ALL ITS
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ATTENDANT SERVICES.
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FACEBOOK IS THE REPOSITORY OF
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YOUR IDENTITY.
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AMAZON'S THE ONLINE WORLD
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BACKED BY CLOUD INFRASTRUCTURE.
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AND ALPHABET IS ALL THINGS
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SEARCH.
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NOW, THESE COMPANIES HAVE ALL
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CREATED INCREDIBLE PRODUCTS THAT
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WE CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT.
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THEY ARE GARGANTUAN BUSINESSES
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THAT ARE, FOR THE MOST PART,
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LOVED AND RESPECTED BY THE MOST
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IMPORTANT PEOPLE, THEIR
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CUSTOMERS.
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ARE THEY MONOPOLISTS?
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I HONESTLY DON'T CARE!
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I DON'T!
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WAKE ME UP WHEN SOMEONE ELSE CAN
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DO IT BETTER!
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>> John: OKAY, THERE ARE A FEW
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PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
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FIRST, IN ORDER TO BE WOKEN UP,
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AT SOME POINT YOU DO NEED TO GO
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TO SLEEP, SOMETHING I FEEL LIKE
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JIM CRAMER -- A MAN WHO
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CONSTANTLY EXUDES BIG "RUNNING
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LATE TO MY CHILD'S THING"
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ENERGY -- HASN'T DONE IN THE
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LAST DECADE.
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BUT SECOND, A BIG THING THESE
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COMPANIES ARE ACCUSED OF DOING
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IS SUPPRESSING THEIR COMPETITION
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SO COMPLETELY THAT WE'D NEVER
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ACTUALLY KNOW IF SOMEONE ELSE
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COULD DO IT BETTER, BECAUSE
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THEY'LL NEVER GET A FAIR CHANCE
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TO TRY.
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THAT IS THE PROBLEM HERE.
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IT'S NOT THAT TECH COMPANIES ARE
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INHERENTLY BAD BECAUSE THEY ARE
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BIG -- IT'S THAT THEY'RE
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ENGAGING IN ANTICOMPETITIVE
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BEHAVIOR.
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AND HERE'S WHERE, UNUSUALLY, I
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MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE SOME GOOD
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NEWS.
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BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO BILLS
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BEFORE CONGRESS RIGHT NOW WITH
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BIPARTISAN SUPPORT THAT COULD
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CURTAIL AT LEAST SOME OF BIG
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TECH'S EXCESSES.
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BUT FOR REASONS WE'LL GET INTO
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LATER, IF THEY DON'T PASS IN THE
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NEXT MONTH OR SO, THEY'RE NOT
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LIKELY TO PASS AT ALL.
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SO, TONIGHT, LET'S TALK ABOUT
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TECH MONOPOLIES, THE HIDDEN HARM
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THEY CAN DO, AND HOW BEST TO
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ADDRESS THAT.
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AND LET'S START WITH A TINY BIT
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OF HISTORY.
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BECAUSE IN THE PAST, THE U.S.
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HAS ACTUALLY TAKEN STRONG ACTION
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TO BREAK UP HARMFUL MONOPOLIES.
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IN THE EARLY 20TH CENTURY, WE
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BROKE UP STANDARD OIL.
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AND AS RECENTLY AS 40 YEARS
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AGO, THE GOVERNMENT TOOK ACTION
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AGAINST, WHO ELSE, BUT AT&T, OUR
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BUSINESS DADDY WHO LEFT FOR
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CIGARETTES AND NEVER CAME HOME.
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[LAUGHTER]
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THEY WERE ACTUALLY THE LARGEST
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FIRM ON THE PLANET, BACK THEN,
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AND BROADLY WELL-RESPECTED AND
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CONSIDERED GOOD.
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WHICH IS TO SAY, COMPLETELY
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UNRECOGNIZABLE FROM THE AT&T OF
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TODAY.
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BUT CRUCIALLY, THAT POPULARITY
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MAY WELL HAVE BEEN BECAUSE
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PEOPLE HAD NO ALTERNATIVES.
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YOU HAD TO RENT YOUR PHONE FROM
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AT&T, AND THEY WERE IN CHARGE OF
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BOTH LOCAL AND LONG-DISTANCE
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SERVICES, WHICH, AS WE NOW KNOW,
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WERE WILDLY OVERPRICED.
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AND WHEN MCI -- A MUCH SMALLER
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COMPANY -- TRIED TO OFFER
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LONG-DISTANCE PHONE SERVICE AT A
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LOWER RATE, AT&T WAS NOT HAVING
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IT.
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>> MCI, WHICH CHARGES UP TO 50%
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LESS THAN BELL, ARGUED THAT AT&T
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TRIED TO PUT IT OUT OF BUSINESS
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BY REFUSING TO PROVIDE EQUIPMENT
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NEEDED FOR LONG-DISTANCE
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TRANSMISSION.
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A KEY EXHIBIT: AT&T'S OWN NOTES
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OF A 1972 FLORIDA MEETING BY
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COMPANY EXECUTIVES IN WHICH ONE
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SAID, "LET'S CHOKE THEM OFF
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BEFORE THEY GET STARTED."
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>> John: NOW, OBVIOUSLY: FUCK
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AT&T NOW AND FOREVER.
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BUT IS THAT WHAT THAT SAID?
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THE ONLY BITS OF SQUIGGLE I CAN
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DECODE THERE ARE THE WORDS,
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"DANGEROUS TO SAMANTHAS,"
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A DOLLAR SIGN, SOMETHING THAT
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WEIRDLY MIGHT BE COVID, AND
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THEN SOMETHING THAT'S
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DEFINITELY, NO QUESTION,
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CAPITAL-B "BALLS."
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[LAUGHTER]
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THE DOJ THEN ACTUALLY FILED AN
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ANTITRUST LAWSUIT, WHICH AT&T
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FOUGHT VIGOROUSLY FOR A DECADE.
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AND WHEN, IN 1984, IT WAS
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FORMALLY BROKEN UP BY THE
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GOVERNMENT, AT&T'S CHAIRMAN
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WARNED THE PUBLIC THAT WE'D COME
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TO REGRET WHAT HAD JUST
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HAPPENED.
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>> OH, I'VE HAD THE CONVICTION
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AND TAKEN THE POSITION IN MORE
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THAN ONE FORUM THAT THE COUNTRY
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IN THE LONG RUN WILL BE SORRY.
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I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO
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BELIEVE -- DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE
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THAT THINGS WILL WORK AS WELL IN
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THE FUTURE AS THEY HAVE IN
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THE PAST.
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>> John: YEAH, BUT HE WAS WRONG.
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THINGS ACTUALLY WORKED BETTER.
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BECAUSE IT TURNS OUT, ENDING A
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MONOPOLY IS ALMOST ALWAYS A GOOD
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THING, WHETHER IT'S AT&T OR
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STANDARD OIL, OR LITERALLY ANY
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GAME OF MONOPOLY.
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WE DIDN'T KNOW IT AT THE TIME,
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BUT AT&T'S DOMINANCE WAS
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SERIOUSLY HOLDING BACK
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INNOVATION.
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BUT AS SOON AS IT WASN'T
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CONTROLLING THE PHONE LINES AND
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WHAT YOU COULD ATTACH TO ITS
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NETWORK, MANY NEW PRODUCTS
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STARTED PROLIFERATING, FROM THE
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ANSWERING MACHINE TO THE MODEM.
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THE BREAKUP OF AT&T WAS ACTUALLY
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A KEY STEP IN PRODUCING THE
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INTERNET REVOLUTION, GIVING US
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THE WEB AS WE NOW KNOW IT, AND
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PETER THE ABILITY TO LOOK UP
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SPORTS STATS, SURFING SPOTS,
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AND WHAT WE ALL KNOW HE WAS
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REALLY DOING THERE.
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[LAUGHTER]
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THE POINT IS, WHEN HARMFUL
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MONOPOLIES END, INNOVATION
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FLOURISHES.
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AND I WANT YOU TO BEAR THAT IN
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MIND AS WE TALK ABOUT THE
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MONOPOLIES OF TODAY: TECH
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COMPANIES.
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AND TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS
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ON JUST ONE WAY THEY USE THEIR
519
00:13:37,950 --> 00:13:39,618
MONOPOLY POWER, SOMETHING CALLED
520
00:13:39,685 --> 00:13:40,753
"SELF-PREFERENCING."
521
00:13:40,819 --> 00:13:41,487
IT'S WHERE COMPANIES UNFAIRLY
522
00:13:41,554 --> 00:13:42,855
FAVOR THEIR OWN PRODUCTS ON
523
00:13:42,922 --> 00:13:44,190
THEIR OWN PLATFORMS, WHICH HAVE
524
00:13:44,256 --> 00:13:44,924
BECOME SO BIG MOST OF US HAVE NO
525
00:13:44,990 --> 00:13:46,392
CHOICE BUT TO USE THEM.
526
00:13:46,458 --> 00:13:47,860
THIS IS A PARTICULARLY BIG
527
00:13:47,927 --> 00:13:48,928
PROBLEM WITH THESE THREE
528
00:13:48,994 --> 00:13:49,995
COMPANIES, AND WE'RE GOING TO
529
00:13:50,062 --> 00:13:52,031
START WITH APPLE.
530
00:13:52,097 --> 00:13:53,232
SPECIFICALLY, ITS APP STORE,
531
00:13:53,299 --> 00:13:54,166
WHICH IS BASICALLY THE ONLY
532
00:13:54,233 --> 00:13:54,967
PLACE TO DOWNLOAD SOFTWARE FOR
533
00:13:55,034 --> 00:13:56,669
YOUR iPHONE.
534
00:13:56,735 --> 00:13:58,938
WHICH IS ALREADY A LITTLE WEIRD
535
00:13:59,004 --> 00:14:00,372
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, RIGHT?
536
00:14:00,439 --> 00:14:01,407
YOU CAN DOWNLOAD ANY SOFTWARE
537
00:14:01,473 --> 00:14:02,741
YOU LIKE TO YOUR DESKTOP
538
00:14:02,808 --> 00:14:04,276
COMPUTER, BUT IF YOU HAVE AN
539
00:14:04,343 --> 00:14:06,011
iPHONE, APPLE HAS SET IT UP SO
540
00:14:06,078 --> 00:14:06,946
THAT ITS APP STORE IS THE ONLY
541
00:14:07,012 --> 00:14:09,281
GAME IN TOWN.
542
00:14:09,348 --> 00:14:11,951
AND APPLE'S BEEN ACCUSED OF
543
00:14:12,017 --> 00:14:12,585
UNFAIRLY PUSHING ITS OWN APPS TO
544
00:14:12,651 --> 00:14:13,519
THE TOP OF SEARCH RESULTS.
545
00:14:13,586 --> 00:14:15,087
THE COMPANY DENIES DOING THIS,
546
00:14:15,154 --> 00:14:16,655
BUT "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL"
547
00:14:16,722 --> 00:14:18,023
FOUND APPLE APPS THAT GENERATE
548
00:14:18,090 --> 00:14:19,124
REVENUE THROUGH SUBSCRIPTIONS OR
549
00:14:19,191 --> 00:14:20,993
SALES, LIKE MUSIC OR BOOKS,
550
00:14:21,060 --> 00:14:23,195
SHOWED UP FIRST IN 95% OF
551
00:14:23,262 --> 00:14:25,931
SEARCHES RELATED TO THOSE APPS.
552
00:14:25,998 --> 00:14:28,033
BUT REGARDLESS, PERHAPS MORE
553
00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:29,735
IMPORTANT IS THE STRANGLEHOLD
554
00:14:29,802 --> 00:14:31,036
APPLE HAS ON DEVELOPERS WHO WANT
555
00:14:31,103 --> 00:14:31,737
TO GET THEIR APPS ONTO YOUR
556
00:14:31,804 --> 00:14:33,405
PHONE.
557
00:14:33,472 --> 00:14:35,341
BECAUSE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO USE
558
00:14:35,407 --> 00:14:37,142
APPLE'S PAYMENT PROCESSOR, WHICH
559
00:14:37,209 --> 00:14:38,010
TAKES A HUGE PIECE OF EVERY
560
00:14:38,077 --> 00:14:39,745
DOLLAR THAT CUSTOMERS SPEND ON
561
00:14:39,812 --> 00:14:41,413
THOSE APPS AND ANY DIGITAL
562
00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,616
PURCHASES WITHIN THEM.
563
00:14:43,682 --> 00:14:45,918
>> APPLE TAKES A 30% COMMISSION
564
00:14:45,985 --> 00:14:46,652
ON SALES OF APPS AND IN-APP
565
00:14:46,719 --> 00:14:48,754
PURCHASES.
566
00:14:48,821 --> 00:14:51,590
SO, IF AN APP COSTS $4.99
567
00:14:51,657 --> 00:14:54,593
UPFRONT, APPLE COLLECTS $1.50.
568
00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:55,294
SAME GOES FOR IF YOU USE AN
569
00:14:55,361 --> 00:14:57,263
APP TO BUY DIGITAL GOODS, LIKE
570
00:14:57,329 --> 00:14:58,297
VIRTUAL WEAPONS, OR SIGN UP FOR
571
00:14:58,364 --> 00:14:58,864
A SUBSCRIPTION TO A MONTHLY
572
00:14:58,931 --> 00:14:59,965
SERVICE.
573
00:15:00,032 --> 00:15:01,233
>> John: IT'S TRUE.
574
00:15:01,300 --> 00:15:02,134
AND THAT WAS PRETTY SHOCKING TO
575
00:15:02,201 --> 00:15:03,535
ME.
576
00:15:03,602 --> 00:15:04,903
IT MEANS EVERY TIME SOMEONE
577
00:15:04,970 --> 00:15:06,505
SPENT MONEY ON THE JEREMY RENNER
578
00:15:06,572 --> 00:15:09,141
APP, SOMETHING REAL PEOPLE
579
00:15:09,208 --> 00:15:10,309
ACTUALLY DID, TO BOOST THEIR
580
00:15:10,376 --> 00:15:12,044
POSTS ABOUT HIM SO THEY COULD
581
00:15:12,111 --> 00:15:13,279
#BeSeen BY JEREMY RENNER --
582
00:15:13,345 --> 00:15:16,382
AGAIN, SOMETHING HUMANS
583
00:15:16,448 --> 00:15:16,949
WANTED -- IN AMOUNTS RANGING
584
00:15:17,016 --> 00:15:18,817
FROM $1.99 TO NEARLY 100 ACTUAL
585
00:15:18,884 --> 00:15:23,722
DOLLARS, APPLE GOT A CUT.
586
00:15:23,789 --> 00:15:24,757
AND THAT IS BLOOD MONEY RIGHT
587
00:15:24,823 --> 00:15:26,558
THERE.
588
00:15:26,625 --> 00:15:30,029
[LAUGHTER]
589
00:15:30,095 --> 00:15:31,030
APPLE MAKES LITERALLY BILLIONS
590
00:15:31,096 --> 00:15:32,298
EVERY YEAR, JUST ON COMMISSIONS
591
00:15:32,364 --> 00:15:33,132
ON APP STORE PURCHASES.
592
00:15:33,198 --> 00:15:34,099
AND SOME APP DEVELOPERS HAVE
593
00:15:34,166 --> 00:15:35,234
TRIED TO FIND WAYS AROUND THIS.
594
00:15:35,301 --> 00:15:36,402
TINDER, FOR INSTANCE, CHARGES A
595
00:15:36,468 --> 00:15:37,002
HIGHER PRICE IF YOU SUBSCRIBE
596
00:15:37,069 --> 00:15:37,770
THROUGH THE APP THAN IF YOU DO
597
00:15:37,836 --> 00:15:38,904
IT ON THEIR WEBSITE.
598
00:15:38,971 --> 00:15:40,072
AND IF YOU OPEN NETFLIX ON YOUR
599
00:15:40,139 --> 00:15:41,040
iPHONE AND DON'T HAVE AN
600
00:15:41,106 --> 00:15:42,107
ACCOUNT, YOU GET A MESSAGE
601
00:15:42,174 --> 00:15:42,775
READING, "TRYING TO JOIN
602
00:15:42,841 --> 00:15:43,575
NETFLIX?
603
00:15:43,642 --> 00:15:44,910
YOU CAN'T SIGN UP FOR NETFLIX IN
604
00:15:44,977 --> 00:15:45,544
THE APP.
605
00:15:45,611 --> 00:15:47,079
WE KNOW IT'S A HASSLE.
606
00:15:47,146 --> 00:15:48,180
AFTER YOU'RE A MEMBER, YOU CAN
607
00:15:48,247 --> 00:15:50,015
START WATCHING IN THE APP."
608
00:15:50,082 --> 00:15:52,518
AND YOU CAN SEE WHY NETFLIX
609
00:15:52,584 --> 00:15:52,851
WOULD DO THAT.
610
00:15:52,918 --> 00:15:53,619
IT DOESN'T WANT TO LOSE A
611
00:15:53,686 --> 00:15:54,920
THIRD OF ITS SUBSCRIPTION
612
00:15:54,987 --> 00:15:56,188
REVENUE TO APPLE.
613
00:15:56,255 --> 00:15:57,489
IT NEEDS THAT MONEY TO PROMOTE
614
00:15:57,556 --> 00:15:59,291
ITS NETFLIX PRIDE MONTH
615
00:15:59,358 --> 00:16:05,597
COLLECTION!
616
00:16:05,664 --> 00:16:10,202
WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY GREAT --
617
00:16:10,269 --> 00:16:10,869
SIMPLY SCROLL BY THE DOZEN
618
00:16:10,936 --> 00:16:11,870
STANDUP SPECIALS
619
00:16:11,937 --> 00:16:13,238
MOCKING THE TRANS COMMUNITY AND
620
00:16:13,305 --> 00:16:14,273
IT'S RIGHT THERE!
621
00:16:14,340 --> 00:16:15,174
SHINE WITH PRIDE, GUYS!
622
00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:16,208
AND WHILE APPLE WILL SAY IT'S
623
00:16:16,275 --> 00:16:17,176
LOWERED ITS COMMISSIONS FOR
624
00:16:17,242 --> 00:16:18,210
CERTAIN SMALL APP DEVELOPERS,
625
00:16:18,277 --> 00:16:19,378
AND NOW EVEN ALLOWS SOME APPS TO
626
00:16:19,445 --> 00:16:20,946
LINK TO AN EXTERNAL WEBSITE AND
627
00:16:21,013 --> 00:16:24,083
BYPASS COMMISSIONS, A KEY REASON
628
00:16:24,149 --> 00:16:25,884
THAT HAPPENED IS THAT THEY WERE
629
00:16:25,951 --> 00:16:27,486
PUT UNDER EXTREME PRESSURE, FROM
630
00:16:27,553 --> 00:16:28,187
LAWSUITS AND FROM REGULATORS
631
00:16:28,253 --> 00:16:29,355
OVERSEAS.
632
00:16:29,421 --> 00:16:30,956
AND IF YOU ARE THINKING,
633
00:16:31,023 --> 00:16:31,523
APPLE'S NOT THE ONLY GAME IN
634
00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:32,725
TOWN, WHAT ABOUT GOOGLE'S APP
635
00:16:32,791 --> 00:16:34,026
STORE?
636
00:16:34,093 --> 00:16:34,993
THEY CHARGE SIMILARLY HIGH
637
00:16:35,060 --> 00:16:36,362
COMMISSIONS TO DEVELOPERS.
638
00:16:36,428 --> 00:16:37,196
AND THE FACT IS, OVER 99% OF
639
00:16:37,262 --> 00:16:38,130
SMARTPHONES ARE PART OF EITHER
640
00:16:38,197 --> 00:16:39,798
GOOGLE'S OR APPLE'S APP
641
00:16:39,865 --> 00:16:43,602
ECOSYSTEM.
642
00:16:43,669 --> 00:16:44,436
LET'S ACTUALLY TALK A BIT ABOUT
643
00:16:44,503 --> 00:16:46,271
GOOGLE NOW.
644
00:16:46,338 --> 00:16:46,805
BECAUSE THEIR APP STORE IS
645
00:16:46,872 --> 00:16:47,373
CLEARLY ONLY A SMALL PART OF
646
00:16:47,439 --> 00:16:49,174
THEIR STORY.
647
00:16:49,241 --> 00:16:50,609
AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW, THEY
648
00:16:50,676 --> 00:16:51,543
ABSOLUTELY DOMINATE ONLINE
649
00:16:51,610 --> 00:16:52,544
SEARCHES.
650
00:16:52,611 --> 00:16:53,779
>> LAST YEAR, GOOGLE
651
00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:54,847
CONDUCTED 90% OF THE WORLD'S
652
00:16:54,913 --> 00:16:55,748
INTERNET SEARCHES.
653
00:16:55,814 --> 00:16:57,483
WHEN BILLIONS OF PEOPLE ASKED
654
00:16:57,549 --> 00:17:00,352
TRILLIONS OF QUESTIONS, IT WAS
655
00:17:00,419 --> 00:17:00,853
GOOGLE THAT PROVIDED THE
656
00:17:00,919 --> 00:17:02,888
ANSWERS, USING COMPUTER
657
00:17:02,955 --> 00:17:04,957
ALGORITHMS KNOWN ONLY TO GOOGLE.
658
00:17:05,023 --> 00:17:06,525
>> THEY HAVE THIS PHRASE THEY
659
00:17:06,592 --> 00:17:07,493
USE, "COMPETITION IS JUST A
660
00:17:07,559 --> 00:17:09,828
CLICK AWAY."
661
00:17:09,895 --> 00:17:13,031
THEY HAVE NO COMPETITION.
662
00:17:13,098 --> 00:17:14,233
BING, THEIR COMPETITION, HAS 2%
663
00:17:14,299 --> 00:17:16,201
OF THE MARKET.
664
00:17:16,268 --> 00:17:21,407
THEY HAVE 90%.
665
00:17:21,473 --> 00:17:23,342
>> John: EXACTLY, PEOPLE USE
666
00:17:23,409 --> 00:17:24,510
GOOGLE TO THE EXTENT "GOOGLING"
667
00:17:24,576 --> 00:17:25,277
SOMETHING IS NOW A VERB.
668
00:17:25,344 --> 00:17:26,345
YOU CAN'T SAY THAT FOR ANY OTHER
669
00:17:26,412 --> 00:17:27,513
SEARCH ENGINE.
670
00:17:27,579 --> 00:17:29,014
NO ONE HAS EVER SAID "I'M GOING
671
00:17:29,081 --> 00:17:30,916
TO BING IT," EXCEPT FOR MAYBE
672
00:17:30,983 --> 00:17:31,950
BING CROSBY ANNOUNCING HE'S
673
00:17:32,017 --> 00:17:34,720
ABOUT TO MASTURBATE.
674
00:17:34,787 --> 00:17:35,587
[LAUGHTER]
675
00:17:35,654 --> 00:17:37,256
BUT THAT'S IT!
676
00:17:37,322 --> 00:17:38,524
AND GOOGLE HAS EXPLOITED THEIR
677
00:17:38,590 --> 00:17:39,491
MARKET DOMINANCE IN SUBTLE WAYS,
678
00:17:39,558 --> 00:17:41,927
HAVING TO DO WITH THE SEARCH
679
00:17:41,994 --> 00:17:42,628
RESULTS THAT IT SHOWS YOU.
680
00:17:42,694 --> 00:17:43,262
BECAUSE IT USED TO BE, WHEN YOU
681
00:17:43,328 --> 00:17:44,129
GOOGLED SOMETHING, YOU GOT
682
00:17:44,196 --> 00:17:45,330
A PAGE THAT LOOKED LIKE THIS:
683
00:17:45,397 --> 00:17:46,298
A SERIES OF BLUE LINKS TO
684
00:17:46,365 --> 00:17:47,466
VARIOUS PAGES ACROSS THE
685
00:17:47,533 --> 00:17:48,534
INTERNET THAT GOOGLE'S ALGORITHM
686
00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,168
HAD DETERMINED TO BE THE MOST
687
00:17:49,234 --> 00:17:50,235
RELEVANT.
688
00:17:50,302 --> 00:17:51,470
AND THAT WAS THE COMPANY'S GOAL
689
00:17:51,537 --> 00:17:52,237
AT THE TIME.
690
00:17:52,304 --> 00:17:53,806
AS ITS CO-FOUNDER LARRY PAGE
691
00:17:53,872 --> 00:17:56,175
SAID IN 2004, "MOST PORTALS SHOW
692
00:17:56,241 --> 00:17:57,042
THEIR OWN CONTENT ABOVE CONTENT
693
00:17:57,109 --> 00:17:58,310
ELSEWHERE ON THE WEB.
694
00:17:58,377 --> 00:17:59,344
WE FEEL THAT'S A CONFLICT OF
695
00:17:59,411 --> 00:18:00,712
INTEREST.
696
00:18:00,779 --> 00:18:02,481
WE WANT TO GET YOU OUT OF
697
00:18:02,548 --> 00:18:04,283
GOOGLE AND TO THE RIGHT PLACE AS
698
00:18:04,349 --> 00:18:06,518
FAST AS POSSIBLE."
699
00:18:06,585 --> 00:18:07,786
BUT WHEN YOU SEARCH FOR
700
00:18:07,853 --> 00:18:10,022
SOMETHING TODAY, YOU GET A LOT
701
00:18:10,088 --> 00:18:10,622
OF GOOGLE CONTENT BEFORE
702
00:18:10,689 --> 00:18:16,195
ANYTHING ELSE APPEARS.
703
00:18:16,261 --> 00:18:18,130
IN FACT, "THE MARKUP" FOUND
704
00:18:18,197 --> 00:18:20,466
GOOGLE DEVOTES 41% OF THE FIRST
705
00:18:20,532 --> 00:18:23,101
PAGE OF SEARCH RESULTS ON MOBILE
706
00:18:23,168 --> 00:18:25,337
DEVICES TO ITS OWN PROPERTIES
707
00:18:25,404 --> 00:18:28,507
AND WHAT IT CALLS "DIRECT
708
00:18:28,574 --> 00:18:29,942
ANSWERS" MEANING A USER WOULD
709
00:18:30,008 --> 00:18:32,010
HAVE TO SCROLL NEARLY HALFWAY
710
00:18:32,077 --> 00:18:36,782
DOWN THE PAGE BEFORE REACHING
711
00:18:36,849 --> 00:18:37,416
THE FIRST ORGANIC RESULT IN THAT
712
00:18:37,483 --> 00:18:38,617
SEARCH.
713
00:18:38,684 --> 00:18:40,352
NOW, GOOGLE DISPUTES THEIR
714
00:18:40,419 --> 00:18:40,919
METHODOLOGY, BUT THINK ABOUT
715
00:18:40,986 --> 00:18:42,020
WHAT IT IS LIKE WHEN YOU SEARCH
716
00:18:42,087 --> 00:18:42,955
FOR SOMETHING.
717
00:18:43,021 --> 00:18:43,655
LET'S SAY YOU WANT TO LOOK UP
718
00:18:43,722 --> 00:18:44,590
DOLPHINS.
719
00:18:44,656 --> 00:18:46,225
SO YOU GOOGLE "DOLPHIN ANIMAL",
720
00:18:46,291 --> 00:18:46,825
AND YOU GET THIS, A BUNCH OF
721
00:18:46,892 --> 00:18:47,526
PICTURES OF DOLPHINS ON GOOGLE
722
00:18:47,593 --> 00:18:48,560
IMAGES.
723
00:18:48,627 --> 00:18:49,461
A BUNCH OF BUTTONS UP TOP LIKE
724
00:18:49,528 --> 00:18:50,629
"SOUNDS" THAT MOSTLY LEAD YOU
725
00:18:50,696 --> 00:18:51,964
TO VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE -- ALSO
726
00:18:52,030 --> 00:18:53,565
OWNED BY GOOGLE, BY THE WAY --
727
00:18:53,632 --> 00:18:55,067
A SECTION ON THE RIGHT SIDE
728
00:18:55,133 --> 00:18:55,801
THAT'S MOSTLY LINKS TO RELATED
729
00:18:55,868 --> 00:18:56,802
GOOGLE SEARCHES, LIKE "ORCA" OR
730
00:18:56,869 --> 00:18:57,736
"AMAZON RIVER DOLPHIN" AND
731
00:18:57,803 --> 00:18:58,637
A BOX OF DIRECT ANSWERS TO
732
00:18:58,704 --> 00:18:59,805
QUESTIONS PEOPLE HAVE ASKED
733
00:18:59,872 --> 00:19:00,706
ABOUT DOLPHINS, LIKE
734
00:19:00,772 --> 00:19:01,607
"WHAT ARE FIVE INTERESTING FACTS
735
00:19:01,673 --> 00:19:02,708
ABOUT DOLPHINS?" OR
736
00:19:02,774 --> 00:19:04,109
"IS DOLPHIN A FRIENDLY ANIMAL?"
737
00:19:04,176 --> 00:19:04,877
OR "CAN A DOLPHIN LOVE YOU?"
738
00:19:04,943 --> 00:19:06,044
AND WHILE YOU'VE NEVER EVEN
739
00:19:06,111 --> 00:19:07,012
THOUGHT OF THAT AS POSSIBILITY,
740
00:19:07,079 --> 00:19:08,413
SUDDENLY, YOU'RE CURIOUS.
741
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:09,147
SO YOU CLICK ON IT, AND IT SAYS
742
00:19:09,214 --> 00:19:10,415
"DOLPHINS HAVE ALSO SHOWN LOVING
743
00:19:10,482 --> 00:19:11,583
EMOTIONS TOWARDS HUMANS."
744
00:19:11,650 --> 00:19:12,618
AND YOUR HEART KIND OF FLUTTERS
745
00:19:12,684 --> 00:19:13,418
FOR A MOMENT, WHO KNEW THAT
746
00:19:13,485 --> 00:19:14,620
THERE WAS ROOM IN A DOLPHIN'S
747
00:19:14,686 --> 00:19:17,022
HEART FOR LOVE?
748
00:19:17,089 --> 00:19:17,623
MAYBE THERE IS ROOM IN ONE FOR
749
00:19:17,689 --> 00:19:19,258
YOU?
750
00:19:19,324 --> 00:19:20,425
THEN YOU SEE MORE QUESTIONS LIKE
751
00:19:20,492 --> 00:19:21,026
"DO DOLPHINS PROTECT HUMANS?"
752
00:19:21,093 --> 00:19:22,094
WHICH THEY MUST, RIGHT?
753
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:22,728
AFTER ALL, WE JUST LEARNED THEY
754
00:19:22,794 --> 00:19:25,397
CAN LOVE US.
755
00:19:25,464 --> 00:19:26,098
BUT THE ANSWER IS "THERE JUST
756
00:19:26,164 --> 00:19:27,699
ISN'T ANY RELIABLE EVIDENCE THAT
757
00:19:27,766 --> 00:19:28,767
IT'S TRUE."
758
00:19:28,834 --> 00:19:29,735
AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
759
00:19:29,801 --> 00:19:30,402
THEY'RE WILLING TO LOVE, BUT NOT
760
00:19:30,469 --> 00:19:31,570
PROTECT US?
761
00:19:31,637 --> 00:19:32,404
THEY'RE JUST GOING TO THROW OUR
762
00:19:32,471 --> 00:19:35,974
LOVE AWAY?
763
00:19:36,041 --> 00:19:36,942
AND AS THE FEELING OF
764
00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:41,380
BETRAYAL CREEPS IN, YOU SEE THAT
765
00:19:41,446 --> 00:19:42,514
OTHERS HAVE SEARCHED "ARE
766
00:19:42,581 --> 00:19:43,315
DOLPHINS EVIL?"
767
00:19:43,382 --> 00:19:44,850
AND THE ANSWER IS, "DOLPHINS
768
00:19:44,917 --> 00:19:45,684
HAVE A HUGE CAPACITY FOR EVIL."
769
00:19:45,751 --> 00:19:47,486
WHICH, OF COURSE THEY DO.
770
00:19:47,553 --> 00:19:47,986
THEY'RE MONSTERS WITH NO
771
00:19:48,053 --> 00:19:48,620
UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU MIGHT'VE
772
00:19:48,687 --> 00:19:49,288
OPENED UP TO THEM, FOR THE FIRST
773
00:19:49,354 --> 00:19:49,922
TIME IN A LONG TIME, AND THEY'D
774
00:19:49,988 --> 00:19:51,056
ABANDON YOU LIKE YOU'RE NOTHING?
775
00:19:51,123 --> 00:19:51,857
AND THEN YOU SEE "WHAT DO
776
00:19:51,924 --> 00:19:52,691
DOLPHINS THINK OF HUMANS?"
777
00:19:52,758 --> 00:19:53,725
AND YOU CAN BARELY EVEN BREATHE
778
00:19:53,792 --> 00:19:54,660
AS YOU OPEN THIS ONE, BUT YOU
779
00:19:54,726 --> 00:19:55,260
KNOW THE TRUTH BEFORE IT EVEN
780
00:19:55,327 --> 00:19:56,194
APPEARS: "DOLPHINS ARE
781
00:19:56,261 --> 00:19:57,362
ESSENTIALLY BRIBED WITH FISH TO
782
00:19:57,429 --> 00:19:59,631
INTERACT WITH HUMANS."
783
00:19:59,698 --> 00:20:00,799
AND EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE HURT, AT
784
00:20:00,866 --> 00:20:01,433
LEAST YOU CAN ACCEPT THAT IT'S
785
00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:02,267
NOT ACTUALLY YOU, IT WAS NEVER
786
00:20:02,334 --> 00:20:04,469
YOU, IT WAS THE FUCKING DOLPHIN!
787
00:20:04,536 --> 00:20:05,837
[LAUGHTER]
788
00:20:05,904 --> 00:20:07,472
AND THE POINT IS, THROUGHOUT
789
00:20:07,539 --> 00:20:08,206
THAT WHOLE EMOTIONAL
790
00:20:08,273 --> 00:20:09,975
ROLLERCOASTER, YOU NEVER EVEN
791
00:20:10,042 --> 00:20:12,044
LEFT GOOGLE!
792
00:20:12,110 --> 00:20:13,011
IN FACT, ONE ANALYSIS FOUND THAT
793
00:20:13,078 --> 00:20:14,212
TWO-THIRDS OF SEARCHES ON GOOGLE
794
00:20:14,279 --> 00:20:15,080
ENDED WITHOUT EVER CLICKING TO
795
00:20:15,147 --> 00:20:18,817
ANOTHER WEB PROPERTY.
796
00:20:18,884 --> 00:20:19,851
AND THE THING IS, INFORMATION
797
00:20:19,918 --> 00:20:22,321
THAT GOOGLE FEEDS YOU IN
798
00:20:22,387 --> 00:20:23,088
SEARCHES LIKE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN
799
00:20:23,155 --> 00:20:24,122
COPIED FROM OTHER SOURCES,
800
00:20:24,189 --> 00:20:24,790
SOMETIMES WITHOUT THEIR
801
00:20:24,856 --> 00:20:25,624
KNOWLEDGE OR CONSENT.
802
00:20:25,691 --> 00:20:26,725
AND IF YOU'RE THINKING, WELL,
803
00:20:26,792 --> 00:20:29,027
IT'S FREE INFORMATION, WHY DOES
804
00:20:29,094 --> 00:20:29,928
IT MATTER IF I READ IT ON GOOGLE
805
00:20:29,995 --> 00:20:30,529
OR ON THE SITE THEY TOOK IT
806
00:20:30,596 --> 00:20:31,430
FROM?
807
00:20:31,496 --> 00:20:32,497
SITE TRAFFIC IS ONE OF THE MAJOR
808
00:20:32,564 --> 00:20:34,066
TOOLS THAT MANY WEBSITES,
809
00:20:34,132 --> 00:20:35,801
ESPECIALLY FREE ONES, USE TO
810
00:20:35,867 --> 00:20:37,369
SELL AD SPACE, SO TAKING AWAY
811
00:20:37,436 --> 00:20:38,570
VISITORS TO THEIR SITE IS
812
00:20:38,637 --> 00:20:39,838
ESSENTIALLY TAKING MONEY OUT OF
813
00:20:39,905 --> 00:20:41,673
THEIR POCKET.
814
00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:43,408
AND WHEN YELP EXPLICITLY REFUSED
815
00:20:43,475 --> 00:20:45,277
TO HAVE THEIR DATA SCRAPED,
816
00:20:45,344 --> 00:20:46,578
GOOGLE TOLD THEM THE ONLY WAY TO
817
00:20:46,645 --> 00:20:48,547
HAVE THEIR SITE'S CONTENT
818
00:20:48,614 --> 00:20:49,414
REMOVED WAS FOR IT TO BE REMOVED
819
00:20:49,481 --> 00:20:50,549
FROM GOOGLE'S GENERAL RESULTS
820
00:20:50,616 --> 00:20:52,050
ENTIRELY.
821
00:20:52,117 --> 00:20:54,720
AND AS THE CEO OF YELP EXPLAINS,
822
00:20:54,786 --> 00:20:55,787
THAT IS BASICALLY A DEATH
823
00:20:55,854 --> 00:20:56,955
SENTENCE.
824
00:20:57,022 --> 00:20:57,656
>> HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT FIRST
825
00:20:57,723 --> 00:20:59,157
PAGE?
826
00:20:59,224 --> 00:20:59,825
>> IT'S NOT EVEN JUST THE FIRST
827
00:20:59,891 --> 00:21:00,759
PAGE.
828
00:21:00,826 --> 00:21:03,128
IT'S THE FIRST FEW LINKS ON THE
829
00:21:03,195 --> 00:21:06,264
PAGE IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF
830
00:21:06,331 --> 00:21:07,132
WHERE USER ATTENTION GOES, AND
831
00:21:07,199 --> 00:21:08,700
WHERE THE TRAFFIC FLOWS.
832
00:21:08,767 --> 00:21:10,135
>> SO, IF YOU'RE NOT AT THE
833
00:21:10,202 --> 00:21:10,902
TOP OF THE PAGE, OR AT THE
834
00:21:10,969 --> 00:21:12,871
BOTTOM OF THE FIRST PAGE, OR ON
835
00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:13,772
THE SECOND PAGE, THAT'S GOING TO
836
00:21:13,839 --> 00:21:15,273
AFFECT YOUR BUSINESS?
837
00:21:15,340 --> 00:21:16,008
>> YEAH, IF YOU'RE ON THE SECOND
838
00:21:16,074 --> 00:21:16,875
PAGE, FORGET IT, YOU'RE NOT A
839
00:21:16,942 --> 00:21:20,112
REAL BUSINESS.
840
00:21:20,178 --> 00:21:21,146
>> John: EXACTLY.
841
00:21:21,213 --> 00:21:22,948
AND PUTTING THE MERITS OF YELP
842
00:21:23,015 --> 00:21:24,082
ASIDE, GOOGLE'S ALGORITHM
843
00:21:24,149 --> 00:21:24,916
SHOULDN'T DETERMINE WHETHER OR
844
00:21:24,983 --> 00:21:26,284
NOT SOMEONE'S BUSINESS IS REAL.
845
00:21:26,351 --> 00:21:27,819
FRANKLY, THAT DISTINCTION SHOULD
846
00:21:27,886 --> 00:21:28,754
ONLY BE WITHHELD IF SOMEONE'S
847
00:21:28,820 --> 00:21:30,022
BUSINESS INCLUDES THE WORDS
848
00:21:30,088 --> 00:21:31,156
"INSTAGRAM INFLUENCER."
849
00:21:31,223 --> 00:21:32,958
BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A JOB,
850
00:21:33,025 --> 00:21:34,393
YOU'RE NOT A BUSINESS, YOU'RE
851
00:21:34,459 --> 00:21:35,193
JUST ATTRACTIVE, INDEPENDENTLY
852
00:21:35,260 --> 00:21:36,928
WEALTHY, AND IT'S SUNNY OUTSIDE.
853
00:21:36,995 --> 00:21:37,529
THAT IS ALL THAT IS HAPPENING
854
00:21:37,596 --> 00:21:39,831
THERE.
855
00:21:39,898 --> 00:21:41,466
[LAUGHTER]
856
00:21:41,533 --> 00:21:42,834
AND BEFORE JIM CRAMER SAYS "WHO
857
00:21:42,901 --> 00:21:43,468
CARES, BUILD A BETTER PRODUCT
858
00:21:43,535 --> 00:21:45,003
AND YOU'LL LAND ON THE FRONT
859
00:21:45,070 --> 00:21:49,508
PAGE," THE TOP RESULTS
860
00:21:49,574 --> 00:21:50,142
GOOGLE FEEDS YOU MAY NOT
861
00:21:50,208 --> 00:21:51,543
BE THE BEST ONES.
862
00:21:51,610 --> 00:21:53,278
TAKE GOOGLE FLIGHTS.
863
00:21:53,345 --> 00:21:54,513
IT USED TO BE, IF YOU GOOGLED
864
00:21:54,579 --> 00:21:55,347
"NYC TO BOISE," YOUR TOP RESULTS
865
00:21:55,414 --> 00:21:56,314
WOULD BE LINKS TO SITES LIKE
866
00:21:56,381 --> 00:21:57,215
THESE.
867
00:21:57,282 --> 00:21:58,583
BUT NOW, YOU'LL ALMOST ALWAYS
868
00:21:58,650 --> 00:22:00,552
GET THIS GOOGLE FLIGHTS WIDGET
869
00:22:00,619 --> 00:22:01,553
AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE, ALREADY
870
00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:02,621
SET UP SO THAT YOU CAN CAN STAY
871
00:22:02,688 --> 00:22:04,356
ON GOOGLE AND FIND A FLIGHT
872
00:22:04,423 --> 00:22:06,358
WITHOUT CLICKING ANYWHERE ELSE.
873
00:22:06,425 --> 00:22:08,060
AND WHILE YOU, PERSONALLY, MIGHT
874
00:22:08,126 --> 00:22:08,694
SCROLL DOWN PAST THAT, MANY
875
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,796
DON'T.
876
00:22:10,862 --> 00:22:12,631
AND THE INDUSTRY HAS FELT THIS.
877
00:22:12,698 --> 00:22:13,565
AS ONE TRAVEL ANALYST WROTE,
878
00:22:13,632 --> 00:22:15,067
"THE FACT THAT GOOGLE IS
879
00:22:15,133 --> 00:22:16,568
LEVERAGING ITS DOMINANCE AS A
880
00:22:16,635 --> 00:22:18,070
SEARCH ENGINE INTO TAKING MARKET
881
00:22:18,136 --> 00:22:18,837
SHARE AWAY FROM TRAVEL
882
00:22:18,904 --> 00:22:20,172
COMPETITORS IS NO LONGER EVEN
883
00:22:20,238 --> 00:22:22,641
DEBATABLE."
884
00:22:22,708 --> 00:22:23,642
AND GOOGLE MIGHT SAY THAT IT'S
885
00:22:23,709 --> 00:22:24,376
AT THE TOP BECAUSE IT'S THE
886
00:22:24,443 --> 00:22:28,447
BEST.
887
00:22:28,513 --> 00:22:30,015
BUT "THE MARKUP" FOUND GOOGLE
888
00:22:30,082 --> 00:22:31,650
FLIGHTS DID NOT ALWAYS DISPLAY
889
00:22:31,717 --> 00:22:32,651
THE CHEAPEST FARES, OR ALL
890
00:22:32,718 --> 00:22:33,652
AVAILABLE FLIGHTS.
891
00:22:33,719 --> 00:22:34,619
THOUGH I GUESS THAT EXPLAINS WHY
892
00:22:34,686 --> 00:22:36,088
GOOGLE FLIGHTS' BANNER IMAGE IS
893
00:22:36,154 --> 00:22:36,722
A WOMAN AND A CHILD HIKING
894
00:22:36,788 --> 00:22:38,790
SOMEWHERE WHILE POINTING AT AN
895
00:22:38,857 --> 00:22:40,425
AIRPLANE THAT THEY ARE NOT ON,
896
00:22:40,492 --> 00:22:41,326
SEEMINGLY SAYING, "WHAT THE
897
00:22:41,393 --> 00:22:42,227
FUCK?
898
00:22:42,294 --> 00:22:44,830
THERE ARE FLIGHTS HERE?
899
00:22:44,896 --> 00:22:45,831
[LAUGHTER]
900
00:22:45,897 --> 00:22:46,631
GOOGLE TOLD US OUR BEST OPTION
901
00:22:46,698 --> 00:22:49,668
WAS TO WALK TO DENVER!"
902
00:22:49,735 --> 00:22:51,803
NOW, GOOGLE, LIKE APPLE, WILL
903
00:22:51,870 --> 00:22:53,939
QUIBBLE WITH A LOT OF WHAT I'VE
904
00:22:54,005 --> 00:22:54,206
JUST SAID.
905
00:22:54,272 --> 00:22:55,440
THEY'LL TELL YOU THEY SEND
906
00:22:55,507 --> 00:22:56,808
BILLIONS OF CLICKS OUTSIDE OF
907
00:22:56,875 --> 00:22:58,410
GOOGLE EVERY DAY, AND THAT THEY
908
00:22:58,477 --> 00:22:59,411
DON'T PREFERENCE GOOGLE FLIGHTS
909
00:22:59,478 --> 00:23:01,680
IN SEARCHES, WHICH...
910
00:23:01,747 --> 00:23:04,082
OKAY!
911
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:05,751
OKAY, GOOGLE!
912
00:23:05,817 --> 00:23:10,088
THEY'LL ALSO TELL YOU
913
00:23:10,155 --> 00:23:12,023
YELP AND OTHER COMPANIES CAN NOW
914
00:23:12,090 --> 00:23:12,758
SELECT WHICH OF THEIR
915
00:23:12,824 --> 00:23:13,592
INFORMATION GETS SCRAPED, THOUGH
916
00:23:13,658 --> 00:23:14,826
THAT ONLY HAPPENED UNDER SERIOUS
917
00:23:14,893 --> 00:23:16,161
PRESSURE FROM THE FTC.
918
00:23:16,228 --> 00:23:17,262
AND IF YOU'RE NOTICING A THEME
919
00:23:17,329 --> 00:23:18,497
HERE THAT THESE COMPANIES ONLY
920
00:23:18,563 --> 00:23:19,364
DO THE RIGHT THING WHEN THEY'RE
921
00:23:19,431 --> 00:23:19,931
PUSHED UP AGAINST THE WALL,
922
00:23:19,998 --> 00:23:22,667
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT THE POINT.
923
00:23:22,734 --> 00:23:24,469
BUT ARGUABLY THE COMPANY MOST
924
00:23:24,536 --> 00:23:25,103
GUILTY OF SELF-PREFERENCING IS
925
00:23:25,170 --> 00:23:26,304
AMAZON, FOUNDED, OF COURSE, BY
926
00:23:26,371 --> 00:23:28,140
A MAN RICH ENOUGH TO BUY
927
00:23:28,206 --> 00:23:29,541
ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING, INCLUDING,
928
00:23:29,608 --> 00:23:30,075
SEEMINGLY, THE RIGHTS TO
929
00:23:30,142 --> 00:23:33,445
PITBULL'S IDENTITY.
930
00:23:33,512 --> 00:23:34,112
[LAUGHTER]
931
00:23:34,179 --> 00:23:36,615
AMAZON REPORTEDLY CONTROLS
932
00:23:36,681 --> 00:23:37,783
65% TO 70% OF ALL U.S. ONLINE
933
00:23:37,849 --> 00:23:40,118
MARKETPLACE SALES.
934
00:23:40,185 --> 00:23:41,620
IT HOSTS ABOUT 2.3 MILLION
935
00:23:41,686 --> 00:23:45,257
ACTIVE THIRD-PARTY SELLERS FROM
936
00:23:45,323 --> 00:23:47,125
ALL AROUND THE WORLD, AND TO
937
00:23:47,192 --> 00:23:53,331
THOSE SELLERS, LIKE THIS MAN,
938
00:23:53,398 --> 00:23:55,634
WHO SOLD SPORTING GOODS, IT'S
939
00:23:55,700 --> 00:23:56,902
CLOSE TO THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN.
940
00:23:56,968 --> 00:23:58,270
>> YOU'VE GOT TO BE ON AMAZON.
941
00:23:58,336 --> 00:23:59,471
YOU HAVE TO BE THERE, BECAUSE
942
00:23:59,538 --> 00:24:00,806
THAT'S WHERE EVERYONE IS.
943
00:24:00,872 --> 00:24:08,547
100 MILLION PRIME SUBSCRIBERS.
944
00:24:08,613 --> 00:24:11,817
>> THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE
945
00:24:11,883 --> 00:24:12,117
ARE OPTIONS.
946
00:24:12,184 --> 00:24:14,786
THERE IS WALMART, THERE IS ALLIE
947
00:24:14,853 --> 00:24:14,986
BABA.
948
00:24:15,053 --> 00:24:16,721
>> I'VE HEARD THAT RESPONSE FROM
949
00:24:16,788 --> 00:24:20,659
AMAZON EXECUTIVES BEFORE.
950
00:24:20,725 --> 00:24:23,328
AND WE DID THAT.
951
00:24:23,395 --> 00:24:24,496
>> WE LISTED ALL
952
00:24:24,563 --> 00:24:25,096
OF OUR PRODUCTS ON EVERY OTHER
953
00:24:25,163 --> 00:24:25,997
ONLINE MARKETPLACE.
954
00:24:26,064 --> 00:24:26,998
ALL OF THE OTHERS THAT WERE
955
00:24:27,065 --> 00:24:27,866
NON-AMAZON, COMBINED, DID ABOUT
956
00:24:27,933 --> 00:24:28,767
10% OF WHAT WE WERE DOING ON
957
00:24:28,834 --> 00:24:31,469
AMAZON.
958
00:24:31,536 --> 00:24:33,405
>> John: EXACTLY, AMAZON IS
959
00:24:33,471 --> 00:24:34,506
ESSENTIALLY THE ONLY PLACE TO
960
00:24:34,573 --> 00:24:35,373
SELL ANYTHING ON THE INTERNET,
961
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:36,007
UNLESS, THAT IS, YOU'RE LOOKING
962
00:24:36,074 --> 00:24:36,875
TO OFFLOAD SOME HUMAN TEETH.
963
00:24:36,942 --> 00:24:37,442
THEN IT'S CRAIGSLIST ALL THE
964
00:24:37,509 --> 00:24:39,611
WAY, BABY!
965
00:24:39,678 --> 00:24:40,612
[LAUGHTER]
966
00:24:40,679 --> 00:24:42,147
AND FOR A THIRD-PARTY SELLER,
967
00:24:42,214 --> 00:24:42,781
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THE
968
00:24:42,848 --> 00:24:43,381
WORLD IS SOMETHING CALLED THE
969
00:24:43,448 --> 00:24:44,716
"BUY BOX."
970
00:24:44,783 --> 00:24:46,017
IT'S THAT LITTLE BOX THAT SHOWS
971
00:24:46,084 --> 00:24:46,818
UP ON ANY AMAZON PRODUCT PAGE,
972
00:24:46,885 --> 00:24:47,819
WHERE YOU CAN INSTANTLY CLICK TO
973
00:24:47,886 --> 00:24:48,820
BUY.
974
00:24:48,887 --> 00:24:49,788
SO WHEN WE SEARCHED FOR DURACELL
975
00:24:49,855 --> 00:24:51,790
AAA BATTERIES, WE GOT
976
00:24:51,857 --> 00:24:53,091
THIS PAGE, AND HERE'S THE BUY
977
00:24:53,158 --> 00:24:54,025
BOX, RIGHT HERE, WHERE WITH ONE
978
00:24:54,092 --> 00:24:54,659
CLICK, WE COULD BUY A PACK FOR
979
00:24:54,726 --> 00:24:56,528
$14.
980
00:24:56,595 --> 00:24:57,696
AND YOU MIGHT ASSUME THAT'S THE
981
00:24:57,762 --> 00:24:59,464
BEST DEAL, BUT IF YOU CLICK
982
00:24:59,531 --> 00:25:00,732
ON THIS LITTLE BOX BELOW, YOU
983
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:01,733
CAN SEE MULTIPLE OTHER SELLERS
984
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,568
WHO ARE OFFERING THE SAME
985
00:25:03,635 --> 00:25:06,905
PRODUCT, MANY AT A LOWER PRICE.
986
00:25:06,972 --> 00:25:07,772
THE PROBLEM IS, MOST PEOPLE
987
00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:09,541
AREN'T GOING TO SEE THAT,
988
00:25:09,608 --> 00:25:11,042
BECAUSE AN ESTIMATED 80% OF
989
00:25:11,109 --> 00:25:12,644
AMAZON SALES GO THROUGH THAT
990
00:25:12,711 --> 00:25:13,812
FIRST BUY BOX, AND IT'S EVEN
991
00:25:13,879 --> 00:25:15,780
MORE FOR MOBILE PURCHASES.
992
00:25:15,847 --> 00:25:19,985
BECAUSE IF WE'VE LEARNED
993
00:25:20,051 --> 00:25:22,787
ANYTHING SO FAR TONIGHT IT'S
994
00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:24,022
THAT NOBODY EVER, EVER WANTS TO
995
00:25:24,089 --> 00:25:25,457
SCROLL DOWN.
996
00:25:25,523 --> 00:25:26,725
SO OUT OF ALL THOSE SELLERS,
997
00:25:26,791 --> 00:25:27,492
ONLY ONE OF THEM GETS TO BE IN
998
00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:28,093
THAT BOX.
999
00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:28,827
AND NOBODY EXCEPT AMAZON KNOWS
1000
00:25:28,894 --> 00:25:30,061
HOW ITS ALGORITHM PICKS THE
1001
00:25:30,128 --> 00:25:33,899
WINNER.
1002
00:25:33,965 --> 00:25:36,134
BUT IT SURE SEEMS TO
1003
00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:36,768
CONSISTENTLY FAVOR AMAZON, WITH
1004
00:25:36,835 --> 00:25:37,402
ONE ANALYSIS FINDING THE COMPANY
1005
00:25:37,469 --> 00:25:38,470
CHOSE ITSELF FOR THE BUY BOX FOR
1006
00:25:38,536 --> 00:25:39,371
ABOUT 40% OF PRODUCTS, WHILE THE
1007
00:25:39,437 --> 00:25:40,672
NEXT HIGHEST SELLER GOT IT IN
1008
00:25:40,739 --> 00:25:41,940
JUST HALF OF ONE PERCENT OF
1009
00:25:42,007 --> 00:25:47,345
POPULAR PRODUCTS.
1010
00:25:47,412 --> 00:25:48,446
AND EVEN WHEN THE BUY BOX DID
1011
00:25:48,513 --> 00:25:53,051
GO TO A THIRD-PARTY SELLER,
1012
00:25:53,118 --> 00:25:54,152
NINE OUT OF TEN TIMES, IT WENT
1013
00:25:54,219 --> 00:25:55,353
TO THOSE THAT USED AMAZON'S
1014
00:25:55,420 --> 00:25:56,021
SHIPPING SERVICE, FULFILLED BY
1015
00:25:56,087 --> 00:25:58,623
AMAZON.
1016
00:25:58,690 --> 00:25:59,524
BASICALLY, IT IS AMAZON'S
1017
00:25:59,591 --> 00:26:00,859
PLAYGROUND, THEY MAKE THE RULES,
1018
00:26:00,926 --> 00:26:01,526
AND THEY DO SEEM TO WIN A LOT OF
1019
00:26:01,593 --> 00:26:02,460
THE TIME.
1020
00:26:02,527 --> 00:26:03,495
AND AS THIS EXPERT POINTS OUT,
1021
00:26:03,561 --> 00:26:04,362
IF THEY'RE COMPETING WITH YOU,
1022
00:26:04,429 --> 00:26:04,996
YOU'RE BASICALLY DEAD.
1023
00:26:05,063 --> 00:26:06,131
>> THIRD-PARTY SELLERS HAVE TOLD
1024
00:26:06,197 --> 00:26:07,132
ME THAT ONCE THEY SEE THAT
1025
00:26:07,198 --> 00:26:08,867
AMAZON IS SELLING THE SAME GOOD
1026
00:26:08,934 --> 00:26:09,668
THAT THEY'RE SELLING, THEY
1027
00:26:09,734 --> 00:26:11,770
LIQUIDATE THEIR INVENTORY.
1028
00:26:11,836 --> 00:26:12,704
THEY KNOW IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO
1029
00:26:12,771 --> 00:26:13,438
COMPETE AGAINST AMAZON ON
1030
00:26:13,505 --> 00:26:15,106
AMAZON'S OWN PLATFORM.
1031
00:26:15,173 --> 00:26:17,475
>> John: OF COURSE.
1032
00:26:17,542 --> 00:26:18,643
THINK ABOUT IT, OF COURSE IT IS.
1033
00:26:18,710 --> 00:26:19,277
YOU DON'T STAND A CHANCE.
1034
00:26:19,344 --> 00:26:20,545
AMAZON IS TO RETAILERS WHAT
1035
00:26:20,612 --> 00:26:23,381
DOLPHINS ARE TO THE HUMAN HEART.
1036
00:26:23,448 --> 00:26:24,249
[LAUGHTER]
1037
00:26:24,316 --> 00:26:27,018
IF THEY TAKE AN INTEREST IN YOU,
1038
00:26:27,085 --> 00:26:27,585
YOU ARE GOING TO WIND UP
1039
00:26:27,652 --> 00:26:28,586
DEVASTATED.
1040
00:26:28,653 --> 00:26:31,156
FUCK YOU, FLIPPER!
1041
00:26:31,222 --> 00:26:32,157
[LAUGHTER]
1042
00:26:32,223 --> 00:26:34,125
AND THE THING IS, AMAZON ISN'T
1043
00:26:34,192 --> 00:26:34,826
JUST A MARKETPLACE OR INDEED A
1044
00:26:34,893 --> 00:26:36,194
SHIPPING COMPANY, IT ALSO
1045
00:26:36,261 --> 00:26:36,895
STARTED COMING UP WITH ITS OWN
1046
00:26:36,962 --> 00:26:37,862
PRODUCTS NOW.
1047
00:26:37,929 --> 00:26:39,731
BECAUSE IT CURRENTLY HAS
1048
00:26:39,798 --> 00:26:45,804
APPROXIMATELY 158,000
1049
00:26:45,870 --> 00:26:47,038
PRIVATE LABEL PRODUCTS ACROSS 45
1050
00:26:47,105 --> 00:26:48,139
IN-HOUSE BRANDS.
1051
00:26:48,206 --> 00:26:50,308
AND IT'S BEEN ACCUSED OF
1052
00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:51,376
PREFERENCING THEM OVER ITS
1053
00:26:51,443 --> 00:26:52,677
COMPETITORS -- OR EVEN WORSE,
1054
00:26:52,744 --> 00:26:53,211
MAKING CLEAR KNOCKOFFS OF
1055
00:26:53,278 --> 00:26:54,245
PRODUCTS THAT'VE BEEN
1056
00:26:54,312 --> 00:26:54,846
SUCCESSFULLY SOLD ON ITS
1057
00:26:54,913 --> 00:26:55,513
WEBSITE.
1058
00:26:55,580 --> 00:26:56,648
TAKE A SMALL COMPANY CALLED
1059
00:26:56,715 --> 00:26:58,016
PEAK DESIGN.
1060
00:26:58,083 --> 00:26:59,150
IT MADE THIS CAMERA BAG, AND
1061
00:26:59,217 --> 00:27:00,218
WHEN IT NOTICED A SUSPICIOUSLY
1062
00:27:00,285 --> 00:27:01,252
SIMILAR BAG BEING SOLD BY
1063
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:04,422
AMAZON, IT MADE THIS PRETTY
1064
00:27:04,489 --> 00:27:05,090
DECENT, SNARKY VIDEO IN
1065
00:27:05,156 --> 00:27:07,092
RESPONSE.
1066
00:27:07,158 --> 00:27:07,892
>> THIS IS THE EVERYDAY SLING BY
1067
00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:09,527
PEAK DESIGN.
1068
00:27:09,594 --> 00:27:10,562
AND THIS IS THE EVERYDAY SLING
1069
00:27:10,628 --> 00:27:12,297
BY AMAZON BASICS.
1070
00:27:12,364 --> 00:27:13,631
IT LOOKS SUSPICIOUSLY LIKE
1071
00:27:13,698 --> 00:27:15,533
THE PEAK DESIGN EVERYDAY SLING,
1072
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,835
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR
1073
00:27:16,901 --> 00:27:18,570
ALL THOSE NEEDLESS BELLS AND
1074
00:27:18,636 --> 00:27:19,838
WHISTLES, LIKE YEARS OF RESEARCH
1075
00:27:19,904 --> 00:27:21,306
AND DEVELOPMENT, RECYCLED
1076
00:27:21,373 --> 00:27:23,842
BLUESIGN-APPROVED MATERIALS, A
1077
00:27:23,908 --> 00:27:25,643
LIFETIME WARRANTY, FAIRLY PAID
1078
00:27:25,710 --> 00:27:27,145
FACTORY WORKERS, AND TOTAL
1079
00:27:27,212 --> 00:27:28,913
CARBON NEUTRALITY.
1080
00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:31,116
INSTEAD, YOU JUST GET A BAG
1081
00:27:31,182 --> 00:27:32,317
DESIGNED BY THE CRACK TEAM AT
1082
00:27:32,384 --> 00:27:34,886
THE AMAZON BASICS DEPARTMENT.
1083
00:27:34,953 --> 00:27:37,122
[LAUGHTER]
1084
00:27:37,188 --> 00:27:39,858
>> John: YEAH, IT SURE SEEMS
1085
00:27:39,924 --> 00:27:40,458
AMAZON IS PUTTING OUT A CHEAP
1086
00:27:40,525 --> 00:27:41,092
COPY WITH ESSENTIALLY THE SAME
1087
00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:42,293
NAME AND DESIGN.
1088
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:43,561
AND IT'S PRETTY WEIRD THAT ONE
1089
00:27:43,628 --> 00:27:44,863
OF THE BIGGEST COMPANIES IN THE
1090
00:27:44,929 --> 00:27:46,598
WORLD SEEMS TO BE USING THE SAME
1091
00:27:46,664 --> 00:27:48,299
STRATEGY AS KNOCKOFF DVDs
1092
00:27:48,366 --> 00:27:50,135
DESIGNED TO CONFUSE PARENTS.
1093
00:27:50,201 --> 00:27:51,703
"HEY KIDS, WE GOT YOU THE MOVIES
1094
00:27:51,770 --> 00:27:54,105
YOU ASKED FOR: RATATOUILLE,
1095
00:27:54,172 --> 00:27:55,140
TRANSMORPHERS, AND CHOP KICK
1096
00:27:55,206 --> 00:27:58,476
PANDA!
1097
00:27:58,543 --> 00:28:02,080
WHY ARE YOU CRYING?
1098
00:28:02,147 --> 00:28:04,382
IT'S WHAT YOU WANTED"
1099
00:28:04,449 --> 00:28:05,250
AND AMAZON HAS A HUGE ADVANTAGE
1100
00:28:05,316 --> 00:28:05,984
OVER ITS COMPETITORS, BECAUSE IT
1101
00:28:06,051 --> 00:28:07,218
RUNS THE MARKETPLACE, AND HAS
1102
00:28:07,285 --> 00:28:07,819
ACCESS TO ALL THE INDEPENDENT
1103
00:28:07,886 --> 00:28:09,054
SELLER DATA -- LIKE,
1104
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:09,821
HYPOTHETICALLY, WHAT BAG IS
1105
00:28:09,888 --> 00:28:11,356
PROVING POPULAR.
1106
00:28:11,423 --> 00:28:12,824
AND LOOK, AMAZON DENIES THAT
1107
00:28:12,891 --> 00:28:13,925
THEY PREFERENCE THEMSELVES,
1108
00:28:13,992 --> 00:28:15,593
THEIR OWN PRODUCTS, OR SELLERS
1109
00:28:15,660 --> 00:28:16,961
THAT PAY FOR THEIR LOGISTICS
1110
00:28:17,028 --> 00:28:20,165
SERVICES.
1111
00:28:20,231 --> 00:28:20,765
AND THEY ALSO DENY RIPPING OFF
1112
00:28:20,832 --> 00:28:25,904
PRODUCTS BASED ON INTERNAL DATA,
1113
00:28:25,970 --> 00:28:27,205
THOUGH WHEN JEFF BEZOS WAS ASKED
1114
00:28:27,272 --> 00:28:28,039
ABOUT THAT DIRECTLY, HIS ANSWER
1115
00:28:28,106 --> 00:28:30,075
WASN'T GREAT.
1116
00:28:30,141 --> 00:28:31,142
>> LET ME ASK YOU, MR. BEZOS,
1117
00:28:31,209 --> 00:28:32,243
DOES AMAZON EVER ACCESS AND USE
1118
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:33,211
THIRD-PARTY SELLER DATA WHEN
1119
00:28:33,278 --> 00:28:34,345
MAKING BUSINESS DECISIONS?
1120
00:28:34,412 --> 00:28:35,380
AND JUST A "YES" OR "NO" WILL
1121
00:28:35,447 --> 00:28:36,381
SUFFICE, SIR.
1122
00:28:36,448 --> 00:28:37,048
>> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION
1123
00:28:37,115 --> 00:28:38,416
"YES" OR "NO."
1124
00:28:38,483 --> 00:28:40,652
WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS WE HAVE A
1125
00:28:40,718 --> 00:28:41,820
POLICY AGAINST USING
1126
00:28:41,886 --> 00:28:43,388
SELLER-SPECIFIC DATA TO AID OUR
1127
00:28:43,455 --> 00:28:46,057
PRIVATE LABEL BUSINESS.
1128
00:28:46,124 --> 00:28:46,891
BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE YOU THAT
1129
00:28:46,958 --> 00:28:47,992
THAT POLICY HAS NEVER BEEN
1130
00:28:48,059 --> 00:28:49,928
VIOLATED.
1131
00:28:49,994 --> 00:28:52,864
>> John: NOT GREAT, JEFF!
1132
00:28:52,931 --> 00:28:53,698
"WE HAVE A POLICY BUT I CAN'T
1133
00:28:53,765 --> 00:28:54,732
GUARANTEE YOU IT HASN'T BEEN
1134
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:56,601
VIOLATED" HAS GOTTA BE ONE OF
1135
00:28:56,668 --> 00:28:57,302
THE MOST INCRIMINATING WAYS TO
1136
00:28:57,368 --> 00:29:04,943
ANSWER A QUESTION.
1137
00:29:05,009 --> 00:29:05,877
IT'S RIGHT UP THERE WITH
1138
00:29:05,944 --> 00:29:09,681
ANSWERING "DID YOU BREAK THE
1139
00:29:09,747 --> 00:29:11,249
LAW?" WITH "WHICH LAW?"
1140
00:29:11,316 --> 00:29:12,450
LOOK, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR HERE:
1141
00:29:12,517 --> 00:29:13,051
SELF-PREFERENCING STIFLES
1142
00:29:13,118 --> 00:29:13,985
COMPETITION, HURTS SMALL
1143
00:29:14,052 --> 00:29:14,886
BUSINESS AND OFTEN RESULTS IN
1144
00:29:14,953 --> 00:29:16,621
SERVING CONSUMERS AN INFERIOR
1145
00:29:16,688 --> 00:29:17,322
PRODUCT.
1146
00:29:17,388 --> 00:29:18,490
SO WHAT CAN WE DO?
1147
00:29:18,556 --> 00:29:19,424
WELL, THAT BRINGS ME TO THE GOOD
1148
00:29:19,491 --> 00:29:20,692
NEWS I MENTIONED EARLIER.
1149
00:29:20,758 --> 00:29:21,759
BECAUSE THESE TWO BILLS ARE
1150
00:29:21,826 --> 00:29:22,927
CURRENTLY BEFORE CONGRESS, AND
1151
00:29:22,994 --> 00:29:23,461
WOULD ADDRESS SOME OF THE
1152
00:29:23,528 --> 00:29:24,796
PROBLEMS YOU'VE SEEN TONIGHT.
1153
00:29:24,863 --> 00:29:25,430
AMONG OTHER THINGS, THEY'D STOP
1154
00:29:25,497 --> 00:29:27,098
MASSIVE COMPANIES THAT OPERATE
1155
00:29:27,165 --> 00:29:28,900
APP STORES, LIKE APPLE AND
1156
00:29:28,967 --> 00:29:30,301
GOOGLE, FROM REQUIRING
1157
00:29:30,368 --> 00:29:31,536
DEVELOPERS TO USE THE COMPANY'S
1158
00:29:31,603 --> 00:29:32,137
OWN IN-APP PAYMENT PROCESSOR,
1159
00:29:32,203 --> 00:29:33,037
AND THEY'D BAN ADVANTAGING A
1160
00:29:33,104 --> 00:29:34,105
PLATFORM'S OWN PRODUCTS,
1161
00:29:34,172 --> 00:29:35,306
SERVICES, OR LINES OF BUSINESS
1162
00:29:35,373 --> 00:29:36,474
OVER THOSE OF A RIVAL.
1163
00:29:36,541 --> 00:29:37,308
AND UNSURPRISINGLY, TECH
1164
00:29:37,375 --> 00:29:38,977
COMPANIES ARE FIGHTING THESE
1165
00:29:39,043 --> 00:29:41,112
BILLS HARD, MAKING THE SAME
1166
00:29:41,179 --> 00:29:42,680
ARGUMENTS THAT AT&T MADE 40
1167
00:29:42,747 --> 00:29:44,415
YEARS AGO -- THAT IF YOU TAMPER
1168
00:29:44,482 --> 00:29:45,750
WITH THEM, THINGS WON'T WORK AS
1169
00:29:45,817 --> 00:29:46,351
WELL IN THE FUTURE AS THEY DID
1170
00:29:46,417 --> 00:29:47,819
IN THE PAST.
1171
00:29:47,886 --> 00:29:49,120
ALTHOUGH THIS TIME, THEY ALSO
1172
00:29:49,187 --> 00:29:50,155
HAVE TRADE GROUPS RUNNING
1173
00:29:50,221 --> 00:29:52,724
RIDICULOUS ADS LIKE THIS:
1174
00:29:52,790 --> 00:29:54,092
>> WASHINGTON IS FULL OF
1175
00:29:54,159 --> 00:29:57,529
PROBLEMS, NOT SOLUTIONS.
1176
00:29:57,595 --> 00:29:59,964
EVERY TIME THEY GET INVOLVED IN
1177
00:30:00,031 --> 00:30:00,865
A NEW AREA OF OUR LIVES, THEY
1178
00:30:00,932 --> 00:30:02,600
JUST SEEM TO MAKE THINGS WORSE.
1179
00:30:02,667 --> 00:30:03,968
AND NOW, POLITICIANS ARE
1180
00:30:04,035 --> 00:30:05,603
BOASTING ABOUT A PLAN TO CONTROL
1181
00:30:05,670 --> 00:30:10,241
MY DEVICES AND HOW I USE THEM?
1182
00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:11,409
[LAUGHTER]
1183
00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:12,744
THEIR SILLY IDEAS COULD RUIN
1184
00:30:12,810 --> 00:30:13,645
SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT I RELY
1185
00:30:13,711 --> 00:30:14,913
ON.
1186
00:30:14,979 --> 00:30:16,147
IF I NEED DIRECTIONS, I SIMPLY
1187
00:30:16,214 --> 00:30:17,182
CLICK ONE BUTTON AND IT GETS ME
1188
00:30:17,248 --> 00:30:18,650
STRAIGHT TO WHERE I NEED TO GO.
1189
00:30:18,716 --> 00:30:20,351
IN THEIR SEARCH FOR POPULARITY
1190
00:30:20,418 --> 00:30:21,753
AND POWER, D.C. DOESN'T CARE
1191
00:30:21,819 --> 00:30:22,387
WHETHER THEY MESS UP WHAT I NEED
1192
00:30:22,453 --> 00:30:25,723
FROM THE INTERNET.
1193
00:30:25,790 --> 00:30:27,592
MY MESSAGE TO WASHINGTON: FOCUS
1194
00:30:27,659 --> 00:30:28,159
ON FIXING AMERICA'S REAL
1195
00:30:28,226 --> 00:30:32,330
PROBLEMS.
1196
00:30:32,397 --> 00:30:36,734
AND LEAVE MY PHONE ALONE.
1197
00:30:36,801 --> 00:30:37,669
[LAUGHTER]
1198
00:30:37,735 --> 00:30:38,636
>> John: WHAT IS GOING ON WITH
1199
00:30:38,703 --> 00:30:39,671
THAT UNSETTLING MAN?
1200
00:30:39,737 --> 00:30:40,638
"FOCUS ON AMERICA'S REAL
1201
00:30:40,705 --> 00:30:42,740
PROBLEMS, LIKE ME, AND WHATEVER
1202
00:30:42,807 --> 00:30:43,341
MY DEAL IS, BECAUSE WHAT IS
1203
00:30:43,408 --> 00:30:47,111
GOING ON WITH ME?
1204
00:30:47,178 --> 00:30:51,749
WHAT'S THAT THING IN MY TRUCK?
1205
00:30:51,816 --> 00:30:52,517
IS IT A TRASHCAN TAPED TO A
1206
00:30:52,584 --> 00:30:53,484
DESK?
1207
00:30:53,551 --> 00:30:54,352
A JABBA THE HUTT BARGE TAPED TO
1208
00:30:54,419 --> 00:30:55,320
A CHIMNEY?
1209
00:30:55,386 --> 00:30:56,354
ALSO, WHAT DID I JUST DO TO IT,
1210
00:30:56,421 --> 00:30:56,721
AND WHY?
1211
00:30:56,788 --> 00:30:58,289
MY BROADER POINT SEEMS TO BE I'D
1212
00:30:58,356 --> 00:30:58,856
LIKE GOVERNMENT TO PAY LESS
1213
00:30:58,923 --> 00:30:59,958
ATTENTION TO WHATEVER WEIRD SHIT
1214
00:31:00,024 --> 00:31:00,592
THAT I'M DEFINITELY UP TO.
1215
00:31:00,658 --> 00:31:01,226
BASICALLY, TO LEAVE MY PHONE AND
1216
00:31:01,292 --> 00:31:02,360
WHATEVER OBVIOUSLY INCRIMINATING
1217
00:31:02,427 --> 00:31:03,861
SHIT IS ON THERE ALONE, OR I
1218
00:31:03,928 --> 00:31:04,262
WILL LUNGE AT YOU.
1219
00:31:04,329 --> 00:31:04,829
I WILL LUNGE RIGHT AT YOU,
1220
00:31:04,896 --> 00:31:07,098
WASHINGTON!
1221
00:31:07,165 --> 00:31:08,066
[LAUGHTER]
1222
00:31:08,132 --> 00:31:09,734
THESE COMPANIES HAVE PUSHED SOME
1223
00:31:09,801 --> 00:31:11,135
WILD ARGUMENTS, FROM CLAIMING
1224
00:31:11,202 --> 00:31:12,070
THE BILLS WILL HELP CHINA, TO
1225
00:31:12,136 --> 00:31:12,637
SAYING THEY'LL SOMEHOW HURT
1226
00:31:12,704 --> 00:31:13,972
PEOPLE OF COLOR.
1227
00:31:14,038 --> 00:31:17,008
AND WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO
1228
00:31:17,075 --> 00:31:18,676
THROUGH EVERY BULLSHIT BOOGEYMAN
1229
00:31:18,743 --> 00:31:19,444
THEY'VE COME UP WITH, BUT NONE
1230
00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:20,078
OF THEM REALLY STAND UP, AND
1231
00:31:20,144 --> 00:31:21,312
SOME HAVE FALLEN APART
1232
00:31:21,379 --> 00:31:22,714
SPECTACULARLY.
1233
00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:30,655
APPLE, FOR INSTANCE, CLAIMS THEY
1234
00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:31,756
HAVE TO CONTROL THE APPS YOU
1235
00:31:31,823 --> 00:31:32,890
CAN DOWNLOAD, OTHERWISE IT
1236
00:31:32,957 --> 00:31:33,891
WOULD EXPOSE USERS TO SERIOUS
1237
00:31:33,958 --> 00:31:34,759
SECURITY RISKS.
1238
00:31:34,826 --> 00:31:38,496
IGNORING THE FACT THAT THESE
1239
00:31:38,563 --> 00:31:39,831
BILLS HAVE EXPLICIT CARVEOUTS
1240
00:31:39,897 --> 00:31:43,234
FOR THAT, IF APPLE COULD PROVE
1241
00:31:43,301 --> 00:31:44,369
THOSE RISKS GENUINELY EXIST.
1242
00:31:44,435 --> 00:31:45,737
AS FOR AMAZON AND GOOGLE,
1243
00:31:45,803 --> 00:31:46,738
THEY'VE BEEN ARGUING SMALL
1244
00:31:46,804 --> 00:31:47,572
BUSINESSES WOULD BE HARMED BY
1245
00:31:47,639 --> 00:31:48,873
THESE BILLS, FUNDING LOBBYING
1246
00:31:48,940 --> 00:31:49,641
GROUPS LIKE THIS ONE, THE
1247
00:31:49,707 --> 00:31:50,308
CONNECTED COMMERCE COUNCIL,
1248
00:31:50,375 --> 00:31:51,843
WHICH SUPPOSEDLY REPRESENTS
1249
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:52,910
5,000 SMALL BUSINESSES WHO
1250
00:31:52,977 --> 00:31:54,812
ALL OPPOSE ANTITRUST REGULATION.
1251
00:31:54,879 --> 00:31:55,446
BUT WHEN POLITICO REACHED OUT TO
1252
00:31:55,513 --> 00:31:56,914
ITS MEMBERS, NEARLY ALL OF THE
1253
00:31:56,981 --> 00:31:58,383
BUSINESSES IT CONTACTED SAID
1254
00:31:58,449 --> 00:31:59,250
THEY'D NEVER HEARD OF THE
1255
00:31:59,317 --> 00:32:01,552
CONNECTED COMMERCE COUNCIL.
1256
00:32:01,619 --> 00:32:02,854
[LAUGHTER]
1257
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,689
AND I DO GET WHY AMAZON, IN
1258
00:32:04,756 --> 00:32:09,060
PARTICULAR, WOULDN'T HAVE FILLED
1259
00:32:09,127 --> 00:32:11,229
THEM IN ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WHEN
1260
00:32:11,296 --> 00:32:13,498
IT DIRECTLY ASKED ITS
1261
00:32:13,564 --> 00:32:16,134
THIRD-PARTY SELLERS TO OPPOSE
1262
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,802
THESE BILLS, ONE OF THEM WROTE
1263
00:32:17,869 --> 00:32:20,138
BACK, "ANY INFORMED SELLER IS
1264
00:32:20,204 --> 00:32:21,973
GOING TO SUPPORT MASSIVE ACTION
1265
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,176
TAKEN AGAINST AMAZON IN THE
1266
00:32:25,243 --> 00:32:25,576
ANTITRUST ARENA.
1267
00:32:25,643 --> 00:32:26,344
WE ARE NOT MORONS AND KNOW
1268
00:32:26,411 --> 00:32:27,779
HOW TO READ AND THINK FOR
1269
00:32:27,845 --> 00:32:29,447
FOR OURSELVES."
1270
00:32:29,514 --> 00:32:30,315
WHICH IS BASICALLY A POLITE WAY
1271
00:32:30,381 --> 00:32:31,616
OF SAYING, "FUCK YOU AND
1272
00:32:31,683 --> 00:32:32,417
THE SPACESHIP YOU RODE IN ON."
1273
00:32:32,483 --> 00:32:33,284
THE TRUTH IS, THESE BILLS ARE
1274
00:32:33,351 --> 00:32:34,652
NARROW -- ARGUABLY, TOO NARROW.
1275
00:32:34,719 --> 00:32:35,353
BUT THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY
1276
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:36,821
HAVE BROAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.
1277
00:32:36,888 --> 00:32:43,695
BOTH BERNIE SANDERS AND JOSH
1278
00:32:43,761 --> 00:32:44,996
HAWLEY WANT TO PASS THESE BILLS.
1279
00:32:45,063 --> 00:32:46,731
THAT'S BASICALLY THE ONLY THING
1280
00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:47,699
THEY HAVE IN COMMON.
1281
00:32:47,765 --> 00:32:48,766
APART FROM THE FACT BOTH THEIR
1282
00:32:48,833 --> 00:32:49,334
SMILES ARE EXCLUSIVELY UPPER
1283
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,469
TEETH, NO LIP.
1284
00:32:51,536 --> 00:32:52,136
SO WHY HAVEN'T THE BILLS MOVED
1285
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FORWARD?
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WELL, SOME BELIEVE IT DOESN'T
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HELP THAT AT LEAST 17 MEMBERS OF
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CONGRESS CURRENTLY HAVE CHILDREN
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WHO WORK OR HAVE RECENTLY WORKED
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FOR FOUR OF THE BIGGEST TECH
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COMPANIES, INCLUDING, CRUCIALLY,
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CHUCK SCHUMER'S DAUGHTERS, ONE
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OF WHOM WORKS AS A MARKETING
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MANAGER AT META, AND ONE OF WHOM
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IS A LITERAL REGISTERED LOBBYIST
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FOR AMAZON.
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AND THE REASON THAT IS
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INTERESTING IS BECAUSE
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CHUCK SCHUMER IS THE PERSON WHO
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NEEDS TO CALL THESE BILLS TO A
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VOTE.
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AND WHILE HE HAS CERTAINLY SAID
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HE'LL DO THAT, HE HASN'T DONE IT
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YET, AND IF HE DOESN'T DO IT
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BEFORE CONGRESS LEAVES FOR ITS
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AUGUST RECESS, THE BILLS ARE
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PROBABLY DEAD, BECAUSE IN THE
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FALL, EVERYONE'S GOING TO HAVE
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MOVED ON TO FOCUSING ON THE
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MIDTERM ELECTIONS, WHERE AS WELL
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ALL KNOW, THE DEMOCRATS WILL BE
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ABSOLUTELY ANNIHILATED.
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SO WE HAVE A VERY SMALL WINDOW,
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RIGHT NOW, TO ACTUALLY DO
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SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.
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AND IF ANY PART OF YOU IS
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THINKING, WHO CARES?
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THINGS BASICALLY WORK FINE FOR
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ME RIGHT NOW.
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IT'S WORTH REMEMBERING, PEOPLE
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THOUGHT THINGS WORKED FINE WITH
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AT&T BEFORE THEY WERE BROKEN UP,
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BECAUSE THEY LITERALLY DIDN'T
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KNOW WHAT THEY WERE MISSING.
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THE PROBLEM WITH LETTING A FEW
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COMPANIES CONTROL WHOLE SECTORS
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OF THE ECONOMY IS THAT IT LIMITS
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WHAT'S POSSIBLE FOR STARTUPS BY,
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IF I MAY QUOTE AT&T'S
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INCOHERENT MEMO, "CHOKING THEM
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BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN GET
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STARTED."
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AN INNOVATIVE APP, OR WEBSITE,
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OR PRODUCT, MIGHT NEVER GET OFF
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THE GROUND, BECAUSE IT COULD BE
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SURCHARGED TO DEATH, BURIED IN
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SEARCH RESULTS, OR RIPPED OFF
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COMPLETELY.
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THESE BILLS WOULD CRACK THE DOOR
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BACK OPEN FOR INNOVATION, AND
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NUDGE THE INTERNET BACK TOWARD
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WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FROM
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THE START: A REVOLUTIONARY TOOL
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THAT EXPANDS GLOBAL ACCESS TO
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INFORMATION, AND THE ABSOLUTE
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BEST PLACE TO RESEARCH SURFING
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SPOTS.
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GET YOURS, PETER.
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GET YOURS.
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[LAUGHTER]
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THAT'S OUR SHOW.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.
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SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.
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GOOD NIGHT!
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