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Did you die in this house?
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Who are you?
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Man, that thing is going off.
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Is this place a portal to hell?
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That's bones.
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Serious?
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He believes that you're demonic.
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So we're in Denver, Colorado,
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and we are going to be investigating
the king of haunted houses,
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the Croke-Patterson mansion.
Yup.
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This place has a really long history
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of very strange
and kind of dark occurrences
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connected to the families
that own this property.
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Yeah, it kind of seems like
every family that's lived there
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has had some crazy misfortune
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to the point where, I mean,
everybody is dying,
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they're losing all their money.
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And a lot of people attribute this
to either weird energy in the house
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or even a haunting.
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So, you know, what's with this place?
Is there a portal?
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Is it just plain haunted?
What's the deal?
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So I guess more to be revealed.
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Let's do it.
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So Croke-Patterson.
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This location has never
been investigated for TV.
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Yeah.
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I want to know who gave it the
name 'The King of Haunted Houses',
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and what transpired for them
to designate it that title.
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We go into a lot of these places
and people are like,
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"This person died, that person died,
then this happened."
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And when you start digging into it,
there's no basis for it at all.
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What's interesting
about this property
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is a lot of these rumours
are actually backed up
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with fact and news articles,
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and people who actually
did live and die here.
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So going through
the property records
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gives us a really good timeline.
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The Croke family built it in 1890.
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And within six months
of having it built,
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the market crashed.
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Three years later, in 1893,
the Patterson family moves in.
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So that's why we have the name
Croke-Patterson.
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A year later, their daughter died.
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After that,
the wife becomes ill and she dies.
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And then Patterson has a heart
attack and dies in the house.
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Wow.
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After that,
we do see a family there,
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Dr Sudan and his family.
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They take over, and then the wife
commits suicide in 1950.
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Just seems like every family
that moves in
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gets cursed by this place
or by something.
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And that's the thing, too,
because we are talking
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about a time period,
late 1800s, early 1900s,
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spiritualism was huge.
Yeah.
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And seances were done for fun.
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They were like the thing to do
on a Saturday night.
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And then that brings
up the question,
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did they bring something in
or stir something up?
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Does that have anything to do
with the energy on the property,
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the building?
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Did somebody open up a portal?
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Or is it just strange string
of weird occurrences that happened?
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Yeah.
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Ooh.
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What the... This is it?
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Wow.
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What the ***?
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Wow.
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Wow.
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Should we disembark
and go meet Chris?
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Let's go meet Chris.
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So we're gonna meet
with the owner, Chris,
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and do a bit of a baseline
walk through.
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This place does seem like
it has some kind of curse
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associated with it.
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It's like the world's
worst luck ever.
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I mean, like,
what family has lived here
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and owned this place
and been like,
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come out the other side better?
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Hi.
Hi.
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Welcome to the Patterson Inn.
Thank you, you're Chris?
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I'm Chris, nice to meet you.
I'm Katrina.
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Hey, how's it going? I'm Jack.
Hi, nice to meet you.
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Let me help you with your bags.
Oh, yeah. thank you.
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So this is a stunning building.
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Thank you.
I have to say, it's gorgeous.
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How did you come about owning?
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Nine years ago, I flew out to Denver
to look at this abandoned building.
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I stood right here, and I looked
at the house, and I said,
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"I want to turn you
into a bed and breakfast."
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And my first paranormal experience
was a ghost up there in this tower.
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And she said, like she was
standing next to me,
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"Get off the *** grass."
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Were you stood on the grass?
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Yeah, the path wasn't here yet,
it was still like a little hill
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and I looked down,
my foot was on the grass.
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But, that was my very first
experience.
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How many paranormal experiences
have you had in this place?
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Personally, I've had two.
OK.
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So the house either picks you
or it runs you.
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And so far, so good.
Interesting.
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OK, well, let's go on the tour.
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This room is original,
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we'll talk about it more
when we go upstairs.
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I'll show you some of the paintings,
then some of the stories.
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Do people say they see
something on the stairs?
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I've heard that before.
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When we first walked in,
I got drawn to the stairs.
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When I looked at the landing,
I kind of saw something
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like a figure that looked distorted.
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A few months ago,
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I had a friend and his girlfriend
stay here at the hotel,
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and they went up the stairs
that night.
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And when they were at breakfast
the next morning,
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I asked them how did they sleep,
was everything OK?
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And they both looked at each other,
and he goes, "Well, I'm pretty sure
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"somebody followed us
up the stairs last night."
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And they were the only ones
in the house.
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And she looked at him, and she goes,
"I thought that, too."
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They didn't want to talk about it
until the next morning.
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I'm not surprised that people
feel like somebody is there.
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What my experience was,
I don't know, I can't really say,
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but it definitely got my attention.
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I don't know who it is
and I'm hoping you find out.
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This mirror has been here
since the beginning.
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What I love about it is that
it's had a view of everyone
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who's passed through
this house for 127 years.
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Hm.
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This is just the gateway
to this extraordinary house
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and its legacy and its history.
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Has anybody ever said that they
see anything come out of it?
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I have not heard that.
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I had...
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Hm.
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I haven't heard that
in the two years I've been here,
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other than this just awkward feeling
when people stand in front of it.
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So, we're gonna start here.
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This is Da Vinci.
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It keeps popping off.
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I don't know
what the deal is, but...
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This is a fairly active room.
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One particular guest
told me a story.
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She wore her headphones
because her husband snored.
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And she said that
she was very conscious
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of a person trying
to whisper in her ear.
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And because she was wearing
the headphones,
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she actually said they were
blowing in her ear,
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like someone's trying
to get your attention.
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Hm, interesting.
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There's a great picture
here on the fireplace
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that shows the Patterson family,
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their first Christmas
here in the house...
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Wow.
..in 1893.
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You'll see the curtain, that's
how you know which room we're in.
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This is as it was, three,
when the Pattersons lived here.
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Wow.
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Was that the EMF?
Yeah, it's the Mel on it.
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The Mel metre was acting up.
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It definitely was anomalous,
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and there were a couple spaces
that when it was in,
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it was just getting triggered a lot.
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I think we are inadvertently
digging into these deaths.
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Are they actually the spirits
of the residents of this place?
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Is it something we don't know about?
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Was there something sinister
going on here? I don't know.
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So I have a personal
experience in this room.
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OK.
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It was a little over a year ago.
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Sitting down here,
I had a bartender working that day,
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and I told him
my long term plan for the house,
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and there was a flash of light.
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And both the bartender
and I jump out of the chairs
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we go looking for the light,
it was a ball.
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Bright orb right here inside
the doorway, the door was open.
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And we looked everywhere,
we looked in the hallway.
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I was actually sitting right here,
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so I saw the light right there
in that mirror.
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So you saw it,
the reflection on it, wow.
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So I saw it through the mirror,
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and the bartender
was looking right at it.
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That's interesting, hm.
How long ago was this, Chris?
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It was October of 2018.
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Alright, where do we go from here?
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Let's go.
We're gonna go upstairs.
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Hm, that's weird.
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This is the staircase, of course,
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where I told you my friend
recently felt
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like someone walked up behind them.
Yeah.
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And so you'll be here overnight,
see what your experience is.
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Yeah, I'm not surprised about that.
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You can feel it
when you go up the steps.
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Anything, though, historically
that we know about the second floor
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as far as deaths?
Yes, there was.
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Mrs Patterson passes away
likely in this room.
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She died in this house in 1904.
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One of their daughters died
here in the house.
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I do believe that
she is still in her home.
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Senator Patterson,
this was his bedroom,
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and likely passed in that room.
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Of a heart attack, right?
Right.
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Want to go upstairs?
Yeah.
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You ready for this?
Yeah, I'm ready.
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You know, it's kind of hard
on a paranormal level
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because, you know,
this is an old property,
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a lot of different people
have lived through these walls.
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So I think there's a lot
of different history to go through.
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Come on, it's a long little hallway.
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Can we confirm
some of these things
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and does it have anything
to do with the haunting?
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This is the window
that I was yelled at from.
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OK.
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There's a story that workers were
renovating the house to turn it,
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I believe, into apartments,
and they kept complaining
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that tools were going missing.
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So the owner put two
Dobermans in the house
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to try to thwart
whatever was going on.
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They figured it was squatters
or vagrants.
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The very next morning,
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the two dogs are found
supposedly dead from fright,
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laying side-by-side,
paw-to-paw,
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on the steps of that staircase
right outside this window.
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The rumour is, the way it's told
as Denver folklore,
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is that the spirits of the house
scared the dogs to death
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and then removed them
from the house through this window.
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I feel sick in here.
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Is there anything else?
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I do I feel sick in here.
After you.
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OK, do other people say that?
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Again, general sense of unease...
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Yeah.
..is common.
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I feel nauseous.
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When we were in the tower room,
I started to get very nauseous.
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I don't know if that was paranormal
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or if it's something
to do with the structure.
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Right now, I can't make
any claims on what it was,
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but I think it's just something
for us to really pay attention to
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as we move through
our investigation.
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I want to take you to one
of my favourite rooms now.
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So welcome, this is Prague.
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When I brought my new GM on,
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he stayed in this room
for two weeks, and everyday,
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he said he felt like someone
was watching him or staring at him.
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This is an active room,
equal to Da Vinci,
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which is the other most
talked about active room.
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Do you think
there's anything negative here?
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It has that history.
Mm-hm.
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I'd like a little more clarity.
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I've had my own experiences,
I've heard the guests' experiences,
249
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I'm really curious
to see what you have.
250
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Chris knows he's had experiences,
he knows other people have had them.
251
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But he wants to know,
252
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"Is what I'm thinking
about these experiences correct?"
253
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And if we can get any evidence
to back up those claims,
254
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then it might give him
some more clarification.
255
00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,800
Chris did give us a couple
of the previous owners
256
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contact information, so...
Yeah.
257
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I wanna reach out to them
to kinda hear about their experience.
258
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Perfect, alright, well,
I guess let's grab our gear,
259
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settle in, you know, I'll see you
after we feel out the whole place.
260
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For sure, alright.
261
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I'm gonna go back
through the property records
262
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and call some previous owners.
263
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Get an idea of what they experienced
when they were here.
264
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Hello?
265
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Hi, is this Dr Douglas Ikeler?
266
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This is.
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Hi, my name's Jack, I'm conducting
a paranormal investigation
268
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of the Croke-Partterson mansion.
269
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Sure.
270
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I saw that you used to own
this home on the property records,
271
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is that correct?
That's correct.
272
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In 1998 and then moved out 2008,
so I lived there for ten years.
273
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Did you ever experience
anything kind of strange
274
00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,280
while you were at the house?
275
00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,760
Yes, I enjoyed living there,
but a lot of bad things happened
276
00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,920
while I was living there
and I even saw a ghost.
277
00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,200
I was coming up
the main staircase
278
00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,600
and as I get to the landing
of the second floor,
279
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a ghost just went
right in front of me.
280
00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,080
Just a flash of light,
it happened so quickly.
281
00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,200
I was just left stunned.
282
00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,800
Wow, that's pretty terrifying.
283
00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,160
Yeah, and the first night
I was there,
284
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and I was brushing my teeth,
285
00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,280
and I was all alone
in the whole house by myself,
286
00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,880
and the shower curtain
actually just sprang off
287
00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,080
and came flying towards me.
288
00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:12,960
I was definitely shocked and...
289
00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,800
Yeah, I don't know
if I would've stuck around
290
00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,480
for too much longer after that.
291
00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:17,840
Yeah.
292
00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,840
Did you live here
with a lot large family?
293
00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,440
One of my ex-wives
lived there with me to start too,
294
00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,360
she didn't move in right away,
295
00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,240
but we got married
after I had bought the castle
296
00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,200
and she never liked it at all.
297
00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,480
We were actually married
a very short time,
298
00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,120
she just didn't like it
and I did like it.
299
00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:44,040
About a year, I got married again
and she had a few experiences there.
300
00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,520
So, she thought she saw a ghost.
301
00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,760
She just never felt
comfortable there.
302
00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,400
She only lived there
for about six months
303
00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,560
until we separated and divorced.
304
00:14:55,640 --> 00:15:00,080
Do you believe living in this house
may have had an effect
305
00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,720
on your divorces?
306
00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,480
Yes.
307
00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,560
The divorces happened very quickly.
308
00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,400
I mean, my life's
always been really good,
309
00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,720
but the mansion comes
with a, sort of, bad luck...
310
00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,040
..aura about it.
311
00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,680
Interesting.
Yeah.
312
00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,600
Well, listen,
thank you so much for your time
313
00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,560
and I really appreciate you
opening up about your time here.
314
00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,320
Sure.
315
00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,560
So it's day two here
at Croke-Patterson.
316
00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,600
We're meeting with Jordan and Ann.
317
00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,400
Ann?
Yes.
318
00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,440
Hi, Katrina.
And Jordan?
319
00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,040
Jordan.
Hey, nice to meet you.
320
00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:45,840
They wrote a book
about the haunted history
321
00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:47,720
of the Croke-Patterson house.
322
00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,640
And we're going
to kind of pick their brains
323
00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,720
and find out about their experience,
324
00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,760
the things they uncovered
with the research.
325
00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,680
I hope to get some insight
from people
326
00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,480
who've spent a huge amount of time
investigating this location.
327
00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,800
So you guys researched this,
the book comes out,
328
00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,000
and you also did
a paranormal investigation.
329
00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,760
What were some of the biggest
"Ah-hah," moments you guys had
330
00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,840
when you were looking into this?
331
00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,040
Well, the first series
of things that happened,
332
00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,560
a fabulous psychic met me here.
333
00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,120
She walked in,
334
00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,480
immediately saw a woman on the
stairs right here on the landing.
335
00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,640
And she came right here
and stopped and turned around,
336
00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:29,880
and looked at the mirror
and then looked up.
337
00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,880
Said there was a vortex,
and she said,
338
00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,000
"This is where it all starts,
this is the heart of the house."
339
00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,560
And then the woman on the stairs
340
00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,840
led us up into the bathroom
on the second floor,
341
00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,840
and she took two steps
in the bathroom
342
00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,040
and just doubled over.
343
00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,640
And she said, "This is death,
and this is suicide, this is death."
344
00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,880
I started to feel
like I couldn't breathe.
345
00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,720
I look at her, and she said,
346
00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,920
"Don't panic,
just take deep breaths.
347
00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,920
"There's a woman that died here,
she committed suicide
348
00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:03,840
"and it was some sort of gas
349
00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,720
"and you're feeling
the effects of that, it will pass."
350
00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,520
Did you guys ever come across
any evidence, any documentation?
351
00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,200
Jordan did.
352
00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,480
A gentleman named Archer Sudan
owned the house.
353
00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,200
And we found a death certificate
for his first wife.
354
00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,560
Tulleen Sudan killed
herself in the house.
355
00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,240
Interesting.
356
00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,760
And it says cyanogas,
she killed herself.
357
00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,360
So essentially,
water and rat poison.
358
00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,000
So, Dr Sudan
did a lot of travelling.
359
00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,640
She was a nurse
but didn't practice.
360
00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,080
Is it your belief that
there is something negative here?
361
00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,560
Mm-hm, yeah.
362
00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,280
What is the negative thing?
363
00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:41,240
The negative energy for me
is probably here
364
00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,040
at the base of the stairs.
365
00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:45,240
It's all kind of,
contained here, I feel.
366
00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,760
But I don't know what it is.
367
00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,160
Like, I couldn't tell you
if it's a person or thing.
368
00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,440
Whoa, what was that?
369
00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,720
Someone was watching us.
370
00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,360
Did you just see something?
371
00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,320
I thought out of my periphery,
I saw, like,
372
00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,840
it just looked like someone
with their arm on the on the rail
373
00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,920
just looking down.
374
00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,200
It's interesting because
it's when we were talking
375
00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,800
about the negative thing
and you were saying whatever it is,
376
00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,520
is in this area.
It's right here, yeah.
377
00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,240
It's always right here.
378
00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,960
People have experienced
what Jack has experienced before.
379
00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,200
Oh, yeah, I mean, they always say,
"Who's upstairs? Who's looking down?
380
00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,240
OK.
Alright.
381
00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,160
Have fun.
Will do.
382
00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,720
I'm really pleased with meeting
with Jordan and Ann
383
00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,400
and talking with them.
384
00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,080
It was really, really interesting.
385
00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,360
Number one, they seemed
completely credible to me.
386
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,600
They seemed like
their biggest mission
387
00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,960
was to tell the story
of this house
388
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,680
and not just exploit
rumours or legend.
389
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,600
They really wanted
to get to the bottom
390
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,280
of why people are having
these experiences here.
391
00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,080
Jack and I are gonna set
up for the night investigation.
392
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,000
And Jack has a great idea
of kind of feeling out the space,
393
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,640
see what we get,
394
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,360
and then we're going to call in
our friend, Cindy Kaza.
395
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,320
She is a psychic medium.
396
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,400
Where can this go?
397
00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:17,600
The hope with bringing in Cindy
is that if we have some questions,
398
00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,720
Cindy can help us
fill in those holes.
399
00:19:21,120 --> 00:19:22,600
Great.
400
00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,560
Alright, so the light
panels are all set.
401
00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:27,200
OK.
402
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,400
Kill the lights.
403
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:45,320
OK, so camera one,
we have the heart of the house.
404
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,760
The kind of, entryway.
405
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,840
Camera two, we have
the second floor stairway landing,
406
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,040
like where I thought
I saw someone looking over at me.
407
00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:57,240
Three is in the tower,
like the turret,
408
00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,080
where the dogs allegedly
threw themselves out the window.
409
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,720
Camera five
is the third floor hallway.
410
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,600
Room six is the basement.
411
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,800
This used to be the smoking room
of Senator Patterson.
412
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,560
So our mission is to figure out
who it is that's here,
413
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,400
if we know who they are, is there
a history of them being here?
414
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,680
Is there a portal here
bringing spirits in?
415
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,360
You know, a lot of people
say there's a vortex or a portal
416
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,960
in the heart of the building.
417
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,240
There could be one.
418
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,840
Hey, Katrina.
Hey.
419
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,400
How you doing?
What's going on?
420
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,480
I thought a good strategy would be
maybe do like a big call out
421
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,920
being like, "Hey, we're here,
we're just documenting.
422
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,200
"We're not trying to,
you know, get rid of you.
423
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,800
"This is your home."
424
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,880
And yeah,
we'll kind of go from there.
425
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,040
I like it.
Let's do this.
426
00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:48,160
Grab that gear.
427
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,040
So there's a couple
hot spots here in house.
428
00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,080
Jack's gonna start
in the Da Vinci room,
429
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,840
I'm going to start
in the Prague room,
430
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,600
and see what kind of results
we get from that.
431
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,440
There are people that claim
a very strong male presence
432
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,920
in the Prague room,
and they feel watched.
433
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,640
I'm gonna leave this right here.
434
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:24,440
Alright, if anyone's in this room,
any spirits, any entities,
435
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,360
make the light change on this device.
436
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,520
Just get close to it,
and you see if you touch it...
437
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,440
..it'll change, so do that.
438
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,360
So I'll probably just start
off with a voice session here.
439
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,480
See if anything talks through.
440
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,160
Maybe it can give me some answers
441
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,120
as to the questions
surrounding this room
442
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,160
or at least lead me
to where I need to go.
443
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,440
So I'm gonna talk to whoever
is in this room, specifically.
444
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,480
Chris, who owns the building now,
445
00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,400
he'd really like to know
who you are.
446
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,720
Can you tell me
who the man is in this room?
447
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,280
This is a communication device,
you talk to me through this.
448
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,680
That's a temperature change.
449
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,720
That's very odd.
450
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,080
Alright, the REM pod
just began to get triggered
451
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,600
from temperature.
452
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,440
It is a drafty house,
but I'm just...
453
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,000
I'm not feeling
like a draft come through here.
454
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,720
I shut the curtain,
and I reset the temperature gauge.
455
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,720
So if it still plummets,
something to watch out for.
456
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,440
Whose bedroom am I in?
457
00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,440
Is it Mr Patterson?
458
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,200
Is it Patterson
that comes to this room?
459
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,200
Mr Patterson?
460
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,560
Yes.
461
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,560
OK.
462
00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:22,960
Senator Patterson,
why do you come to this room?
463
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,880
Do you like
to be on the third floor?
464
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,840
HI, are you still with us?
465
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,800
I'm talking to maybe, Patterson?
466
00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:45,040
Seems like very random things
coming through right now.
467
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,040
OK, so you've seen
the temperature shift.
468
00:23:49,120 --> 00:23:51,280
Can you do it when I ask you to?
469
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,800
I'm going to ask you a question,
470
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,680
and make that beep
like you've been doing.
471
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,840
Did you die in this house?
472
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,760
Are you a male?
473
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,480
Are you female?
474
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,240
I mean, that thing's going off.
475
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,920
Did you used to live here?
476
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,600
I don't know what to make of it,
477
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,800
but it did seem like
there was some intelligent
478
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,040
kind of responses coming through.
479
00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:32,920
I'd ask a question,
and then it would seem...
480
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,560
..like now.
481
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,520
Who are you?
482
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,640
Was that Tulleen?
483
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,640
Katherine?
484
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,240
Yeah, I think maybe I want
to go out into the hallway,
485
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,640
bring the REM pod there,
486
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,960
and we'll see what
we pick up in the hallway.
487
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,320
Alright, heart of the house.
488
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,480
Got my REM pod sat right here.
489
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,680
Make that REM pod light up,
we're in the heart of the house.
490
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,200
Everyone said
this is where it all happens.
491
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,560
The thought is
when you relax your gaze,
492
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,080
and you kind of
just like sink into your focus,
493
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,200
people believe that entities
or messages or visions
494
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,760
can come through to you.
495
00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,600
You just hear that?
496
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,520
Is that someone ***
walking in the basement?
497
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,720
Did you just *** hear that?
498
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:19,120
Katrina, I'm hearing positive
footsteps in the basement right now.
499
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,280
You're hearing footsteps
in the basement?
500
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:25,520
Yeah, I mean, that was clear as day.
501
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,520
Alright, I'm coming to you.
502
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,880
That was *** loud and scary.
503
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,440
Clear as day., I just heard...
504
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,080
Did it sound like on the staircase?
505
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,280
It sounded like
it was in the parlour.
506
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,320
Do we want to go down
to the basement?
507
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,160
I think we should go
to the basement.
508
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,200
If you're hearing footsteps,
let's do it.
509
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,840
You know, hearing those footsteps
get me fired up a little bit.
510
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,200
I don't know what to make of it,
but it's creepy here.
511
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,520
It feels weird down here.
Yeah.
512
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,840
Ooh, yeah.
Ooh, ooh, yeah.
513
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,320
Mm-hm.
514
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,840
Yeah, it's a little tingly, huh?
515
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,680
Yeah, just a bit.
516
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,000
Is Patterson in here?
Senator Patterson?
517
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,480
Oh, I just got the chills,
big time, big time.
518
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,520
Hm, I do not like it down here!
519
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,280
No?
No.
520
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,600
Who was walking around down here?
521
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,160
Could you walk around
for us some more,
522
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,280
make some more footsteps
that we can hear?
523
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,440
I thought I heard "Sudan"
come through, by the way.
524
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,080
Yeah, I heard that.
525
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,880
It's really clear.
526
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,760
Tulleen?
527
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,680
Tulleen, are you down here with us?
528
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,000
Nurse.
529
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,760
Tulleen Sudan, she was a nurse.
530
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,960
Yeah, that would have been Tulleen.
531
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,000
Who's down here with us right now?
532
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,400
Can you bang on something?
Knock a wall?
533
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,520
Tulleen?
534
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,720
"Yes, ma'am."
535
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,440
Where do we go
to talk to you better?
536
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,480
"This house."
537
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,480
Do you mean anywhere in the house?
538
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,360
I heard "The bathroom."
539
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,240
The bathroom?
Yeah, "The bathroom."
540
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,840
Which bathroom?
541
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,600
I wonder if they're talking
about the Royale bathroom.
542
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,800
If we keep getting things
connected to Tulleen.
543
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,760
And that's where
that one psychic really felt
544
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,800
that that suicide happened.
545
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,800
She took two steps in the bathroom
and just doubled over.
546
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,920
And she said,
"There's a woman that died here.
547
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,080
"She committed suicide
and it was some sort of gas.
548
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,640
"And you're feeling the effects
of that, it will pass."
549
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,440
Maybe we should check that out.
550
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,560
You know, either confirm it
or rule it out.
551
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,560
Yeah.
'Cause something's weird happening.
552
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,800
They're claiming
that's where she killed herself.
553
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,160
there's proof she did
die here from suicide.
554
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,320
Since we've started
ghost box sessions,
555
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,440
we keep having things
that seem to be connected
556
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,080
to Tulleen come through.
557
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,560
I mean, if we're taking a look
collectively at everything
558
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,560
we've had so far,
it would make sense.
559
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,880
So it's either her
or somebody talking about her.
560
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,920
It's cold in here.
561
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,600
Yeah.
562
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,200
Is Tulleen Sudan here?
563
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,440
Poison?
564
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,760
Whoa, I heard that.
565
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,760
Is anyone here with us right now?
566
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:52,680
Can you tell us why?
567
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,320
What do you want us to know?
568
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,960
"She died here."
Yeah, I heard that.
569
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,720
That's what it just said?
570
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,880
Yeah. "She died here."
I heard that.
571
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,800
Archer Sudan owned the house,
and his first wife, Tulleen Sudan,
572
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,800
killed herself in the house.
573
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,200
And it says cyanogas.
She killed herself.
574
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,000
What drove her to kill herself?
575
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:22,880
Is there a dark energy here?
576
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,840
It's weird, it seemed
like it died down here.
577
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,000
Yeah.
Feels different.
578
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,520
Yeah.
579
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,720
I mean, whatever is coming
through on the geo port,
580
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,760
we're getting really
intelligent responses,
581
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,240
so I'm hoping to maybe get some
clarity to what's going on.
582
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,560
Do you want me to run out
and get Cindy?
583
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,440
OK, yeah, that sounds good.
584
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440
So right now, our friend
and psychic medium,
585
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,320
Cindy Kaza, has arrived.
586
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,520
You ready to roll?
Yep.
587
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,560
We're going to see
if she can validate
588
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,280
our experiences
that we've had so far.
589
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,240
We still have some holes,
we still have some questions,
590
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,960
and I feel like she's kind of,
I'm looking at her right now
591
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,360
as our glue
to put our puzzle together.
592
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,880
We just want to set you loose.
593
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,480
Ooh, alright.
And just...
594
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,560
..let you kind of
take the lead almost.
595
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,480
I want to go upstairs.
OK.
596
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,720
Yeah.
597
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,840
There's just a lot in this house.
598
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,080
The house itself feels possessed,
for lack of a better term.
599
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,480
There's definitely a portal here.
600
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,080
That's for damn sure.
601
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,720
Do you know where it is?
602
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,640
It feels like
the whole house is a portal.
603
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,640
Where do you want to go from here?
604
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,440
Uhm...
605
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,280
I'm gonna just lead,
I'm just gonna go this way.
606
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,320
OK, uhm...
607
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,200
Has anybody seen a woman
that walks across this hallway?
608
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,920
'Cause she's here.
609
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,280
Do people say they see
something on the stairs?
610
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,160
I've heard that before.
611
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Out of my periphery, I saw, like,
612
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,480
it just looked like someone
with their arm on the rail
613
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,200
just looking down,
someone was watching us.
614
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,600
She likes to sit on the couch
and just walk back and forth.
615
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,080
I can just feel her here.
616
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,360
She's just very connected
to this space.
617
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,960
OK.
618
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,760
The man, there's a man
619
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,480
who died of a heart attack
620
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,040
in this house.
621
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,760
'Cause as I walk in here,
622
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,120
I see the man dropping dead
of a massive heart attack,
623
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,680
just falling to the floor.
624
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,040
Bam.
625
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,320
Senator Patterson
likely passed in that room.
626
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,760
Of a heart attack, right?
Right.
627
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,480
He died so fast that I feel like
he didn't even realise that he died.
628
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,960
So he's kind of wandering around,
like, not really sure
629
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,360
how he got to the other side
because it was so fast.
630
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,360
And he hangs out in this house,
he's very active in his house.
631
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,200
And is he a good spirit?
632
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,120
He's fine,
like, he's not a problem.
633
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,840
He's actually quite charming.
634
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,400
Alright.
635
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,440
What is this? A watchtower?
636
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,480
Can I ask you
a very specific question...
637
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,480
Yes.
..in this room?
638
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,080
There are rumours that these dogs
jumped out of this tower room
639
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,040
to commit suicide.
640
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,360
Are you picking up anything
relating to why
641
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,040
or what caused that?
642
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,120
You know, I honestly
have to tell you,
643
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,160
I don't think that
that was paranormal.
644
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:01,080
So you feel like it was,
like, a human person?
645
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,040
Yeah, I feel like it
has to do with a human
646
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,320
or something scared them,
and that's what it was.
647
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,920
I don't think it's a ghost
or an entity that did that.
648
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,240
OK.
649
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,840
Was there a woman who isolated
herself for months on end?
650
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,920
Can you hone in a little bit more?
651
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,840
The man who had the heart attack,
that's her husband.
652
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,360
So his wife, Katherine.
653
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,720
That's who it is, she's here.
654
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,000
She's the lady of the house.
655
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,720
The lady of the house.
656
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,160
She's got unfinished business
with some things
657
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:39,280
that happened in her life
when she lived in this house.
658
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,040
So that's why she's here?
That's why I feel she's here.
659
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,080
Has anybody seen her
staring out the window?
660
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,640
Yeah.
661
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:49,000
In my first paranormal experience
was a ghost up there in this tower.
662
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,800
People can see her
starring at the window,
663
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,640
but it's not that
she's trapped in that space.
664
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:58,840
She just comes
for a looksy-loo.
665
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,000
Yeah, because she wants people
to acknowledge her presence
666
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,840
because he didn't do that
as much as you should have.
667
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,800
Mm.
Right.
668
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,920
Alright, let's go to the cellar.
669
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,160
I don't like it down here.
670
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,920
So we have some very specific
questions for you.
671
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,800
You've touched on some tragedy,
some sadness in the space.
672
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,760
There is documentation
of a woman committing suicide
673
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,120
in 1950.
674
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,160
I feel like
that's the woman upstairs.
675
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:37,000
This is the staircase, of course.
676
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,960
Felt like someone walked
up behind them.
677
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,840
Yeah, I'm not surprised about that.
678
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,520
You can feel it
when you go up the steps.
679
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,400
She likes to walk back and forth.
680
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,480
Are you sure she killed herself?
681
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,480
Because I really don't feel suicide.
682
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,400
Can I give you a name?
See if it taps in?
683
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,680
Tulleen.
Tulleen?
684
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,720
Cindy was using a technique
called automatic writing.
685
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,760
It's almost like just verbalise
what you are hearing.
686
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,000
You just write it and,
you know, she kind of says
687
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,400
she has no control over her hand
and whatever comes out comes out.
688
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,920
OK, that's interesting,
so here's the thing.
689
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,520
I just heard, "I did do it,
but he helped me."
690
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,960
So there's somebody
who helped her do it.
691
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,400
There's got to be somebody who
either got her something to do it
692
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,360
or knew she was going to do it.
693
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,040
Can you ask her who?
694
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,160
"He got the..."
Well, I'm writing medicine.
695
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:33,080
That's what I'm hearing,
"Medicine,"
696
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,800
But it obviously wasn't medicine.
697
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,360
So there's a man who worked here
who helped her do it.
698
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,760
So she did do it,
but she had help.
699
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,400
OK.
700
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,800
Her husband was a doctor
and she was a nurse.
701
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,520
No!
702
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,000
He had a part in her death,
there's more to the story.
703
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,480
Would the owners of the house
be targeted in a way
704
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,600
of having bad luck or tragedy?
705
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,720
A lot of times it becomes
a psychological thing
706
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,880
where people believe that
they're living in a cursed place
707
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,560
or a possessed place,
708
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,840
and then that's creating
all of the bad luck
709
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,480
that happens in their lives.
710
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,600
But I do feel there's something
in the walls of this house
711
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:20,080
that could potentially create
some negative circumstances
712
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,240
for the people that live here.
713
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,240
I feel this place
has always been a portal.
714
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,240
You definitely helped us
fill some holes in.
715
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:34,960
Yeah, good.
716
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,080
I think Cindy's reading validates
a lot of the history that we know,
717
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,120
but also more clarity of what
spirits are believed to be here.
718
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,360
And I think we have a lot
to take to Chris.
719
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,640
How was your evening?
720
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,800
My evening was good,
how was your evening?
721
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,040
Eventful, lots of things happened.
722
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,560
Have you guys ever heard
walking in the basement
723
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,560
or around the basement
when you've been up here?
724
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,840
Well, upstairs hearing downstairs,
I have no experience there.
725
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,800
I'm gonna play you something.
726
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,960
I was right here in front
of the mirror.
727
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,400
Did you hear it?
I did.
728
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,200
Is that explainable?
729
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,920
Uh, no, but I've heard that
the basement's really active,
730
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,240
but actually
hearing footsteps that's...
731
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,400
Yeah, it sound like someone
with like fancy shoes.
732
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,360
just walking.
733
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,920
We met with Ann and Jordan.
Have you met with them before?
734
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,560
I have not.
You have not?
735
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,600
OK, so they did a hell of a lot
of research on this place.
736
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,400
They actually wrote a book about it.
737
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,600
They were able to confirm
one suicide in the house
738
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,120
that would have been
in the upstairs bathroom
739
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,200
on the second floor
in a Royale room, Tulleen Sudan.
740
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:59,600
So they had a copy
of her death certificate.
741
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:06,800
We do know she committed suicide,
she was 48 when she did it.
742
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,240
She did it by mixing
a couple chemicals together
743
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,080
and inhaling the gas.
744
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,280
One of the pieces
of equipment we used,
745
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,960
they're called ghost boxes
or voice boxes.
746
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,560
Surprisingly, we kept getting
those name Sudan come through.
747
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,640
I thought I heard "Sudan"
come through, by the way.
748
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:27,400
Yeah, I heard it.
Yeah, I heard that.
749
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,960
It was really clear.
750
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,440
We did bring in Cindy Kaza,
who's a psychic medium,
751
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,640
and she was hitting on things
that were fascinating.
752
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:37,680
I don't feel she killed herself
753
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,480
or something else
that it was reported incorrectly,
754
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,680
or things were covered up.
755
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,800
She kept saying,
"There's more to the story,
756
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,640
"this woman did not commit suicide."
757
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:49,680
And we were like,
"Well, what do you mean by that?"
758
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,560
And she's like,
"She keeps talking about
759
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,200
"the medicine, the medicine."
Somebody gave her the medicine.
760
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,480
And then she either knowingly
took it to commit suicide
761
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,600
or she did not know
what she was doing.
762
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,120
But she very much felt
that there was more to that story,
763
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,200
and that's part of the reason
why you would experience
764
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,360
Tulleen here in this house.
765
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,600
And she feels like that's the woman
that people would see on the stairs.
766
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,040
OK, that person likely
walking up behind people.
767
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,280
Mm-hm, she very much
feels like it's her.
768
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,120
She likes to walk back and forth.
769
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,840
The other thing, she does not
believe the dog incident
770
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,680
was paranormal at all.
771
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,720
No, she just believes
that they were, like,
772
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,640
scared out of here by someone
who was, like,
773
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:26,640
chasing them and scaring them.
774
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:28,480
You know, I honestly
have to tell you,
775
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,480
I don't think
that that was paranormal.
776
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,480
Yeah, so you feel like it
was like a human person?
777
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,440
Yeah, I feel like it
has to do with a human.
778
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,600
She said the interesting
thing about this place
779
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,400
is that it is kind of like
a beacon or a portal
780
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,200
or whatever you want to call it,
781
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,600
that spirits from all
over are drawn to it.
782
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,120
It's almost like, you know,
the moth to the flame.
783
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,440
They're drawn in,
and they don't necessarily know why.
784
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,560
So it's just pulling and pulling
and pulling and pulling.
785
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,880
I was hoping
for Katherine or Thomas.
786
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,240
Well, so actually I did get
Thomas to come through
787
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,920
when I was in the Prague room.
788
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,720
When Cindy started
to dive in on that,
789
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,760
she also felt like both
of them were here.
790
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,680
She immediately picked
up on Katherine,
791
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,680
who she very strongly
believes is here.
792
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,240
And she believes that's who
you saw on your first day here.
793
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,080
And that Katherine
is kind of the woman of the house.
794
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,880
You know?
I believe that myself.
795
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,640
We asked about the bad luck.
796
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:21,160
Because it does seem like there's
a chain of bad luck here.
797
00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:23,560
She thought it was more
psychological on,
798
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,720
you know, the owners' part.
799
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,240
So meaning you come into this house
that's already charged,
800
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,000
maybe you have some bad luck,
maybe that gets into your head.
801
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,240
The next owner comes,
already has that in their head.
802
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,720
And, you know,
then it's cyclical like that.
803
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,640
So where you have
this paranormal activity,
804
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:40,960
but then you'll also have
the psychological element,
805
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,040
and they're kind of feeding
into each other.
806
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,760
But I'm happy to hear that
the Pattersons are still here.
807
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,240
This is their house,
and it gives me a great privilege
808
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,320
to know that I'm the caretaker
today for this legacy
809
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,600
that's 120-plus years.
810
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,120
And I hope it's still here
for 120 more.
811
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,040
I hope they have the thrill
of walking these halls
812
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,960
for as long as possible.
813
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:02,720
I think that's great,
814
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,360
sounds like you were just
the right owner to come in.
815
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,560
I believe this hotel
is haunted by numerous spirits.
816
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,960
Some of them made themselves
known to us
817
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,000
through our investigation
last night.
818
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,080
I think that there is a lot
of evidence to back that up.
819
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:25,440
This is a straight up haunted hotel.
820
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:27,920
Croke-Patterson?
821
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,640
Definitely haunted.
822
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:31,160
I would absolutely say that.
823
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:33,480
You know, something that was
coming up the whole time
824
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,480
seemed to be portals.
It did.
825
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,320
By all accounts,
a lot of people believe
826
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:38,920
that this place has one.
827
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,720
We've had so many experiences
that line up
828
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,640
with other people's experiences.
829
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:44,920
So what's to say a portal
isn't true?
830
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,640
Absolutely, well, there you have it,
Croke-Patterson.
831
00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:49,320
I think this place is a portal.
832
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,320
We don't throw that title
around very often,
833
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,400
but I think there could be
something here.
65729
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