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Previously, on
"The Rookie"...
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That's Aaron Thorsen.
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Rich kid.
TikTok famous
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before he got arrested for
murdering his roommate in Paris.
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I was locked in a cell
for 541 days.
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The person who murdered Patrick,
he's still out there,
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and no one is looking for him
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because they still think
that I did it.
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I don't want to be a part of
this reality TV show.
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Sweetie, it's only
gonna help you.
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I'm Morris Mackey.
I'm the reality TV producer here.
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I just want to say,
this has been so fascinating.
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I love true crime,
and to be in a documentary,
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it's just...
It's a dream come true.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
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*THE ROOKIE*
Season 04 Episode 16
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Episode Title: "Real Crime"
Aired on: March 13, 2022.
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Do I just...?
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You're back.
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Another crazy story...
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- How could I stay away?
- Thank you.
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- You good to go?
- Um, yeah.
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Where should I, uh...
Where should I start?
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Why don't you, uh, tell me
about Aaron Thorsen?
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Well, Aaron came
to the F.T.O. program
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with the deck stacked
against him.
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He had to sue the LAPD
even to get into the Academy.
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I mean, you have to respect
just how hard he fought
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just to be here.
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Uh, but what happened in Paris
never left him,
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no matter how hard he tried
to move on.
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People would argue that doing
a reality show
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is the opposite
of moving on.
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Well, those people
haven't experienced
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what it's like
to be infamous.
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I mean, Aaron was desperate to
reset the way the world saw him.
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And it all blew up
in his face.
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Yeah.
Yeah, it really did.
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I can't believe this
is happening to me again.
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It's nice
to see you again.
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Mm-hmm.
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And congratulations
on the baby.
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Thank you.
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Did being pregnant
make what you went through
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- with Aaron more stressful?
- Not here to talk about me.
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Fair enough. Uh,
let's talk about
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the reality show.
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Okay.
It was his mom's idea.
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It was a way to rebrand
his image.
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And what did you think
of the title?
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No comment.
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Seriously, though.
You have to have
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- had an opinion...
- Listen, you're not gonna get me
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to say that dumb-ass title,
so let's just move on.
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Yeah, so back there
is my parents' room
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and the family room.
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Um... Oh, right here,
this is my favorite photo.
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I was 6.
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And you might recognize
my dad.
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He was part of a '90s rap duo,
Flex n' Flow.
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That's them right here.
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♪ Party's never stoppin'
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♪ Who the boys
that make the noise? ♪
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♪ Flex n' Flow, yo,
Flex n' Flow ♪
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Yeah, man, when I was a kid,
I used to love
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riding my tricycle up and down
this hallway.
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Until he knocked over my Music
Industry Achievement Award
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and broke it.
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Aaron tried to put it back
together with Play-Doh,
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thinking we wouldn't notice.
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But that's my son, always trying
to get away with something.
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Not anymore.
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I mean, now he's...
very responsible.
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Over here, we got
my childhood bedroom.
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What the hell?
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Hey, I never had
this picture of Patrick.
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Did you put this here?
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We just thought it'd be
a nice surprise.
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Man, Morris, what the hell
did I tell you, man,
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about faking stuff like this?
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Relax.
Uh, not a big deal.
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We just wanted to do it
for a take.
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Yeah, man,
that's not cool.
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You know what?
You're right.
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My bad.
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We'll... We'll do it again,
but without the photo.
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Okay.
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Yeah, okay.
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Got that?
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Morris was white-hot
from doing
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several award-winning
documentaries in a row.
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The king of those
"30 Under 30" lists.
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He had a real gift
for earning people's trust,
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convincing them
that he was on their side,
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that they have a say
on the final cut.
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Then... surprise...
They didn't.
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Hey.
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Sorry. I, uh, totally forgot
this was happening today.
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We just started.
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Uh, don't forget to tell him
about the, uh,
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forensics expert.
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I know.
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And the, uh...
The French prosecutor.
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I sent you that interview,
right?
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He was biased against Aaron
from the jump.
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I'm a decade older,
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but Aaron and I
had similar upbringings...
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Rich parents,
private schools.
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I'm just lucky social media
didn't exist.
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Look, if I was
in Aaron's generation,
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I would have just as much
embarrassing footage as he did.
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Of what?
You studying tort reform at 15?
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I got into trouble.
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Uh-huh.
Okay.
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The point is, when you grow up
in this world,
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you don't hear "no" a lot,
which can make you a real ass...
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Can make you
a very selfish person.
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♪ Another day
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Ooh-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo!
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Yo, they only got,
like, five pairs of these
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in the whole world,
and I got a pair.
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You don't have a pair,
but I do.
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What's up, what's up?!
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Hey, yo, what up,
everybody?
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It's your boy, AT!
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My guy Patty P right here.
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We got a pool party tonight.
Everybody come through.
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Got the matching,
you know?
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Got the matching.
And the shoes.
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Hey.
Have fun.
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- You know what it is.
- Hey! Whoa!
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You know the vibes.
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You know the vibes!
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$30,000 a bottle,
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and he didn't drink a sip.
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That boy lost his mind.
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I had to get him out
of his comfort zone.
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I mean, I-I thought, you know,
a semester abroad
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would've helped him mature,
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so I sent him to Paris.
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I was on scholarship.
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University of Michigan.
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Go Wolverines.
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I don't know why I said that.
Can I please start over?
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You're doing fine.
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Uh, when did you first meet
Aaron and Patrick?
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The program held a mixer
when we first arrived.
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It was mostly just a bunch of
awkward college students
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butchering French,
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but Aaron and Patrick were from
this whole other world.
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First impressions?
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I mean, honestly, they seemed
like entitled douchebags.
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But then I got to know them.
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You know,
it was like another planet...
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Planet Rich.
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Patrick was the funniest.
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All that stuff you saw
on Instagram,
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no, that's not who they were.
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Yeah, I mean, we went from
the Two Musketeers to Four,
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you know, just like that.
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Me, Patrick,
Rowan, and Everest,
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we were, uh, inseparable.
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And uh...
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Man, that feels like
so long ago.
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Are you nervous about
the reunion?
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A little.
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Or a lot.
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Yeah, I mean, um, I haven't seen
them since the trial.
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And they all went home,
graduated from college,
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got jobs, and...
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I went to prison.
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Do they believe
in your innocence?
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Yeah, 100%.
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They've both said that.
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You know, there can be
a big difference
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between what people say
and what they believe.
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Sorry. Let's...
Hold on.
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Let me reset that.
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Sorry.
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Ro, Ro,
good to see you, man!
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Yeah, you too, man.
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- Yeah.
- You look so different.
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Yeah, I'm a little older.
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No, it's not that.
I don't know.
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You're like
a different guy.
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Something like that.
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- I think I'm gonna cry.
- Hey.
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No, no, no crying.
You're gonna mess up my makeup.
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Oh!
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Oh, I'm sorry
I didn't come sooner.
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No, d... don't worry about it,
really.
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I'm just...
glad to see you guys.
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Alright, so let's,
uh, get inside.
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I got food, drinks...
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cameras, and, uh...
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I'm sorry.
This is so weird.
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Hey, it's fine. We're just happy
to see you, bro.
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- Yeah, me too.
- Yeah.
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Yeah. Alright.
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Guys, I got to swap out
my battery.
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Give me a second?
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Okay.
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What the hell?
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Holy...
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Morris Mackey's throat
had been cut.
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By the time
his body was found,
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he'd been dead approximately
four hours.
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And who were
your initial suspects?
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Everyone who stepped foot
in the house that day.
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Including Aaron.
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Everyone.
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- Good morning.
- Good morning.
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It's nice to see you again.
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Nice to see you!
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I heard you were happy
with how
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the last documentary
came out.
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Oh, my God.
It was so good, and... and...
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And I got so many compliments.
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Oh, that's great.
How about you?
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Didn't see it.
Can we get started?
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Uh, yeah.
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So, tell me what happened when
you arrived at the scene.
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We were
the first responders.
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Whoa.
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Okay.
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It was a... frenetic day.
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So many people... so...
So many personalities.
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But when you're talking
a star-studded crime scene
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with a witness list comprised
mostly of influencers,
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I guess that's
no surprise.
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Alright, look,
even with all those cameras
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and phones rolling in the house,
none of them caught anything
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even remotely helpful
to our investigation.
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Yeah. Luck?
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It just wasn't in our cards
that day.
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What?
Why are you so happy?
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I am being colorful.
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They will use more
of our coverage
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if we give them evocative
sound bites.
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I'm right, right?
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Can we get back
to the murder?
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I followed protocols.
You know, I... I called it in,
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cleared the house,
did everything right.
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- Mm-hmm.
- You believe me, right?
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O-Of course.
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I mean, but we have to
follow protocol, too.
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It's gonna be okay.
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I can't believe this
is happening to me again.
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I know.
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A-Are you okay?
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I think I'm having, like,
a panic attack.
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Oh, okay.
Uh, just sit down,
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and I'm gonna grab you
some water, okay?
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I'll be right back.
255
00:09:41,799 --> 00:09:43,412
Show's over.
Time to go.
256
00:09:43,497 --> 00:09:46,155
What? Uh, no, no, no.
No, it's not.
257
00:09:46,261 --> 00:09:48,491
This is my house,
my production.
258
00:09:48,576 --> 00:09:49,270
The show goes on.
259
00:09:49,354 --> 00:09:50,446
Connor, keep filming.
260
00:09:50,530 --> 00:09:51,698
Yeah, that's not
how this works.
261
00:09:51,782 --> 00:09:52,788
This is
my crime scene.
262
00:09:52,873 --> 00:09:54,962
Shut it off now.
263
00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,291
Shut it off!
264
00:09:58,711 --> 00:10:00,088
There was nothing
we could do.
265
00:10:00,173 --> 00:10:01,021
Well, thanks for coming out.
266
00:10:01,105 --> 00:10:02,327
Yeah.
267
00:10:02,411 --> 00:10:04,677
Our paramedic crew was
short-staffed,
268
00:10:04,761 --> 00:10:08,072
and since we're all EMT-trained,
I was subbing in.
269
00:10:08,156 --> 00:10:09,116
Oh, I don't understand.
270
00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,335
Why were you called in
at all?
271
00:10:10,419 --> 00:10:11,989
He was clearly dead,
right?
272
00:10:12,073 --> 00:10:14,383
You have no idea how many people
I see look that way
273
00:10:14,467 --> 00:10:15,993
and then spring back to life.
274
00:10:16,077 --> 00:10:17,603
Oh. Interesting.
275
00:10:17,687 --> 00:10:18,909
And what did you think
at the time?
276
00:10:18,993 --> 00:10:20,476
Did it seem to you
like Aaron did it?
277
00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:23,217
Of course not. He would never do
anything like that.
278
00:10:23,301 --> 00:10:25,394
Really? And you're confident
saying that...
279
00:10:25,478 --> 00:10:27,776
Considering
your ex-husband?
280
00:10:28,378 --> 00:10:30,985
Wow. Okay.
281
00:10:31,385 --> 00:10:32,911
Ah, clearly,
you come prepared.
282
00:10:32,996 --> 00:10:37,830
Yeah, um, I...
I married a sociopath once.
283
00:10:37,973 --> 00:10:41,071
So maybe I'm not
the best judge of character.
284
00:10:41,156 --> 00:10:42,791
It's not about being
a good judge of character.
285
00:10:42,875 --> 00:10:44,103
We judge by the facts.
286
00:10:44,188 --> 00:10:45,501
And what did the facts say?
287
00:10:45,585 --> 00:10:47,459
At first?
288
00:10:47,597 --> 00:10:48,816
Not much.
289
00:10:50,843 --> 00:10:52,543
How long you been here
filming today?
290
00:10:52,635 --> 00:10:54,157
About three
or four hours.
291
00:10:54,242 --> 00:10:55,423
After rehearsal
this morning,
292
00:10:55,508 --> 00:10:56,816
they had Everest and me
in the kitchen,
293
00:10:56,900 --> 00:10:58,339
getting our hair
and makeup done
294
00:10:58,423 --> 00:10:59,819
while they filmed
other stuff.
295
00:10:59,903 --> 00:11:01,299
So you were in the kitchen
the whole time?
296
00:11:01,383 --> 00:11:05,042
Uh, well, I did sneak off
to crafty once or...
297
00:11:05,126 --> 00:11:06,522
four times.
I heard they had ice cream,
298
00:11:06,606 --> 00:11:07,784
and I've been dieting
like crazy
299
00:11:07,868 --> 00:11:09,046
'cause I was gonna be
on television,
300
00:11:09,130 --> 00:11:10,569
and I heard the camera
adds like 10 pounds.
301
00:11:10,653 --> 00:11:12,136
Is that true?
302
00:11:12,220 --> 00:11:13,790
So when was the last time
you saw Morris?
303
00:11:13,874 --> 00:11:15,618
Honestly, I ain't seen him
all day.
304
00:11:15,702 --> 00:11:16,923
I was dealing with work stuff
305
00:11:17,007 --> 00:11:18,708
right up
until we started filming.
306
00:11:18,792 --> 00:11:20,753
And where were you
when Morris's body was found?
307
00:11:20,837 --> 00:11:22,331
In my office.
308
00:11:22,503 --> 00:11:23,886
And how would
you characterize
309
00:11:23,971 --> 00:11:26,150
Aaron's relationship
with Morris?
310
00:11:28,906 --> 00:11:30,939
It's important
you tell the truth.
311
00:11:32,673 --> 00:11:35,270
They didn't always agree about
the direction of the show.
312
00:11:35,370 --> 00:11:37,690
But my son,
he would never hurt anyone.
313
00:11:44,340 --> 00:11:47,085
Hey, do we really have
to do this in here?
314
00:11:47,319 --> 00:11:48,923
Yes, we do, son.
315
00:11:50,415 --> 00:11:53,455
Per government code 3300
and per Lybarger,
316
00:11:53,587 --> 00:11:56,283
I am required to advise
that you do nothave
317
00:11:56,368 --> 00:11:57,659
the right
to remain silent.
318
00:11:57,744 --> 00:12:00,212
Anything you say can
and will be used against you.
319
00:12:00,297 --> 00:12:03,186
Refusal to fully
and completely answer
320
00:12:03,271 --> 00:12:05,885
all of Detective Lopez's
questions
321
00:12:06,078 --> 00:12:08,969
will result
in immediate termination.
322
00:12:09,407 --> 00:12:11,173
Do you understand?
323
00:12:12,264 --> 00:12:13,268
Yes, sir.
324
00:12:13,353 --> 00:12:14,836
And I'm here
to protect you
325
00:12:14,921 --> 00:12:16,578
as your union representative.
326
00:12:16,718 --> 00:12:18,418
This is your choice.
327
00:12:18,503 --> 00:12:19,993
But like
Sergeant Grey said,
328
00:12:20,157 --> 00:12:22,453
if you choose not to cooperate,
you will lose your job.
329
00:12:22,538 --> 00:12:24,099
Of course I'll cooperate.
330
00:12:25,986 --> 00:12:27,274
Good man.
331
00:12:28,956 --> 00:12:30,135
Alright.
332
00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:31,682
I'll leave you to it.
333
00:12:35,291 --> 00:12:36,654
I didn't kill Morris.
334
00:12:40,766 --> 00:12:44,721
When I saw him lying there,
like Patrick...
335
00:12:44,815 --> 00:12:46,123
I understand.
336
00:12:46,208 --> 00:12:47,866
But it was common knowledge
that you and Morris
337
00:12:47,950 --> 00:12:49,635
weren't on
the best of terms.
338
00:12:49,798 --> 00:12:52,118
Who are you with? TMZ?
339
00:12:52,327 --> 00:12:53,767
You still feeding
340
00:12:53,851 --> 00:12:54,807
- off my grief, you vultures?!
- Come on, guys.
341
00:12:54,892 --> 00:12:56,051
- Morris, what are you doing, man?
- Get 'em out of here, man!
342
00:12:56,135 --> 00:12:57,392
- Get out of here now!
- Go!
343
00:12:57,477 --> 00:12:59,862
Yeah, what he did
to Patrick's dad
344
00:12:59,947 --> 00:13:03,377
was callous and exploitative,
345
00:13:03,461 --> 00:13:05,205
but I wouldn't kill him
for it.
346
00:13:05,289 --> 00:13:06,541
Yeah, that was bad.
347
00:13:06,626 --> 00:13:10,206
Aaron pulled over Patrick's dad
in a routine car stop.
348
00:13:10,291 --> 00:13:12,690
It was a total random reunion,
349
00:13:12,775 --> 00:13:16,129
but Morris and his cameraman
were there filming,
350
00:13:16,213 --> 00:13:18,479
and that just made
everything worse.
351
00:13:18,563 --> 00:13:21,874
Dexter Hayes, he was a...
A grieving father, you know?
352
00:13:21,958 --> 00:13:25,835
And he... he took a swing
at Officer Thorsen,
353
00:13:25,919 --> 00:13:26,966
so we had to book him,
354
00:13:27,050 --> 00:13:29,807
but we let him go
as soon as we could.
355
00:13:29,892 --> 00:13:32,291
And, you know, I thought
that would be the end of it.
356
00:13:32,376 --> 00:13:33,863
But you suspected
that Patrick's dad
357
00:13:33,947 --> 00:13:35,674
- could have killed Morris?
- We did.
358
00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:37,994
He was furious
about "Every Rose Has A..."
359
00:13:38,896 --> 00:13:40,752
About the reality show.
360
00:13:41,026 --> 00:13:44,260
And after years of the press
feeding off of his grief,
361
00:13:44,548 --> 00:13:47,380
yeah, it was believable
that he could've snapped.
362
00:13:47,464 --> 00:13:49,513
This is absurd.
You do know that?
363
00:13:49,598 --> 00:13:51,004
Alright, sir,
can you tell me where you were
364
00:13:51,088 --> 00:13:52,122
yesterday afternoon?
365
00:13:52,206 --> 00:13:54,690
I was in the office,
morning to midnight.
366
00:13:54,774 --> 00:13:56,692
Ask any one
of my employees.
367
00:13:56,776 --> 00:13:58,432
I didn't do this.
368
00:13:58,516 --> 00:14:00,088
Any idea who did?
369
00:14:00,322 --> 00:14:03,328
I can tell you that
whoever killed that man,
370
00:14:03,413 --> 00:14:05,893
his last name is Thorsen.
371
00:14:06,554 --> 00:14:09,299
I blame myself for ever letting
them into Patrick's life.
372
00:14:09,384 --> 00:14:10,649
They're a sick family.
373
00:14:10,734 --> 00:14:13,087
And Aaron is not
the only killer among them.
374
00:14:13,176 --> 00:14:14,399
What did he mean by that?
375
00:14:14,483 --> 00:14:15,619
You know
what he meant by that.
376
00:14:15,703 --> 00:14:18,012
And we knew
from the reality show
377
00:14:18,097 --> 00:14:20,538
that Morris gave
Aaron's father a clear motive.
378
00:14:20,623 --> 00:14:23,338
And that's what I was thinking
for the opening theme.
379
00:14:23,423 --> 00:14:24,440
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
380
00:14:24,525 --> 00:14:26,260
- I like it.
- You do?
381
00:14:26,345 --> 00:14:28,244
Almost as much
as I like you.
382
00:14:28,329 --> 00:14:29,620
Mm.
383
00:14:29,766 --> 00:14:31,641
You're so sweet.
384
00:14:31,811 --> 00:14:33,206
Oh.
385
00:14:33,290 --> 00:14:34,338
Hey!
386
00:14:34,422 --> 00:14:36,470
You hooking up
with my wife, man?!
387
00:14:36,554 --> 00:14:37,733
Linc,
it's not what you think.
388
00:14:37,817 --> 00:14:39,943
Boy, you better get
the hell up out of here!
389
00:14:43,039 --> 00:14:44,466
What the hell was that?!
390
00:14:44,566 --> 00:14:46,785
Are you seriously doing this
to me again?!
391
00:14:46,869 --> 00:14:48,168
In my own house!
392
00:14:48,253 --> 00:14:49,779
There's footage
of Lincoln catching
393
00:14:49,863 --> 00:14:51,572
Morris and Yvonne
in an intimate moment.
394
00:14:51,656 --> 00:14:53,749
That had to factor
into your investigation.
395
00:14:53,918 --> 00:14:56,055
Jealousy is
a primal motive.
396
00:14:56,139 --> 00:14:57,693
And some believe
that Lincoln had killed
397
00:14:57,777 --> 00:14:59,114
for jealousy
once before.
398
00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:01,278
He was a suspect in
a 20-year-old murder, wasn't he?
399
00:15:01,362 --> 00:15:02,418
Yes, he was.
400
00:15:06,676 --> 00:15:07,934
What can
you tell me about your father's
401
00:15:08,018 --> 00:15:09,511
hip-hop duo, Flex n' Flow?
402
00:15:09,596 --> 00:15:11,130
I mean, I was, like, a baby,
you know,
403
00:15:11,215 --> 00:15:12,293
when they were
at their height.
404
00:15:12,377 --> 00:15:15,943
And, uh, that was the year
"Make Da Noise" went platinum.
405
00:15:16,028 --> 00:15:17,107
Flex n' Flow
had one of the most
406
00:15:17,191 --> 00:15:18,512
iconic singles
of the late '90s.
407
00:15:18,596 --> 00:15:19,904
Oh, my God.
"Make Da Noise"?
408
00:15:19,988 --> 00:15:22,994
That's like one
of my go-to karaoke jams.
409
00:15:23,078 --> 00:15:24,685
♪ My crib,
it's all a-poppin' ♪
410
00:15:24,769 --> 00:15:25,841
♪ The party's
never stoppin' ♪
411
00:15:25,925 --> 00:15:26,990
♪ Who da boyz that
make da noise? ♪
412
00:15:27,074 --> 00:15:28,832
♪ Flex 'n Flow, yo,
Flex n' Flow ♪
413
00:15:28,980 --> 00:15:30,270
Can I be interviewed
alone?
414
00:15:32,261 --> 00:15:33,527
Yeah, we comin' for you.
415
00:15:33,611 --> 00:15:34,571
♪ My crib,
it's all a-poppin' ♪
416
00:15:34,655 --> 00:15:35,920
♪ This party's
never stoppin' ♪
417
00:15:36,004 --> 00:15:37,095
♪ We're the boyz
who make da noise ♪
418
00:15:37,179 --> 00:15:38,445
♪ Flex n' Flow, yo,
Flex n' Flow ♪
419
00:15:38,529 --> 00:15:39,881
♪ My crib,
it's all a-poppin' ♪
420
00:15:39,965 --> 00:15:41,317
♪ This party's
never stoppin' ♪
421
00:15:41,401 --> 00:15:42,492
♪ We're the boyz
who make da noise ♪
422
00:15:42,576 --> 00:15:43,667
♪ Flex n' Flow, yo,
Flex n' Flow ♪
423
00:15:43,751 --> 00:15:44,799
♪ Flex n' Flow
424
00:15:53,983 --> 00:15:56,032
Oh, yes, that's me.
425
00:15:56,242 --> 00:15:58,639
I was a Flow Girl.
426
00:15:58,723 --> 00:16:00,467
Wait. What?
427
00:16:00,551 --> 00:16:03,339
There was a scout who saw me
cheering in high school,
428
00:16:03,423 --> 00:16:05,036
and he asked me to audition.
429
00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,208
At first, I thought he was
just trying to get in my pants.
430
00:16:07,292 --> 00:16:12,652
But it turned out to be legit,
and it was for Flex n' Flow.
431
00:16:12,737 --> 00:16:14,698
I was the biggest fan.
432
00:16:14,782 --> 00:16:16,004
What are you
wearing, by the way?
433
00:16:16,088 --> 00:16:19,355
Oh, I teach capoeira
on Thursdays and Sundays.
434
00:16:19,439 --> 00:16:20,530
Oh.
435
00:16:20,614 --> 00:16:22,129
Did you ever see
Flex n' Flow argue
436
00:16:22,214 --> 00:16:23,349
while you were working
with them?
437
00:16:23,433 --> 00:16:25,883
Mm, I mean... well, sure,
438
00:16:25,967 --> 00:16:27,488
but nothing serious.
439
00:16:27,573 --> 00:16:29,762
They were like brothers,
and brothers fight.
440
00:16:29,847 --> 00:16:31,115
What do you say to the people
who are convinced
441
00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:32,988
that your husband
killed his late partner?
442
00:16:33,121 --> 00:16:36,083
Oh, honey, this alleged "feud"
between Linc and Calvin
443
00:16:36,168 --> 00:16:38,809
has gotten blown way out
of proportion over the years.
444
00:16:38,893 --> 00:16:40,683
But what about the night
of Calvin's murder?
445
00:16:40,768 --> 00:16:42,860
The infamous pre-release party
for "2 Hype Homies"?
446
00:16:42,945 --> 00:16:45,516
Did the party
get a little wild? Sure.
447
00:16:45,608 --> 00:16:47,743
Did the police come
and break it up? Mm-hmm.
448
00:16:47,846 --> 00:16:50,548
And did Linc and Calvin argue?
You bet.
449
00:16:50,633 --> 00:16:52,594
But they were just
passionate people.
450
00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:55,750
And nobody
ever threatened nobody.
451
00:16:55,886 --> 00:16:58,566
Yeah, they, uh...
They threatened each other.
452
00:16:59,045 --> 00:17:00,136
I was there.
453
00:17:00,221 --> 00:17:01,791
I was a rookie officer then.
454
00:17:01,952 --> 00:17:04,653
And my T.O. and I had got
a 415 call
455
00:17:04,792 --> 00:17:07,189
for an out-of-control party.
456
00:17:07,313 --> 00:17:11,102
It was a record release event
for Flex n' Flow.
457
00:17:11,186 --> 00:17:13,627
But anyway,
as we were breaking things up,
458
00:17:13,711 --> 00:17:15,977
I saw Flex n' Flow
in each other's faces.
459
00:17:16,061 --> 00:17:17,631
Could you hear
what they were fighting about?
460
00:17:17,715 --> 00:17:21,105
No. Um, as I approached,
their limousine was pulling up.
461
00:17:21,190 --> 00:17:22,723
But Flex... um...
462
00:17:22,807 --> 00:17:25,339
Um, I'm sorry, Lincoln...
Was still very hot.
463
00:17:25,461 --> 00:17:29,932
He refused to get into the limo
with Flow, and, um...
464
00:17:30,036 --> 00:17:32,354
Yeah, he said
that he'd rather walk
465
00:17:32,439 --> 00:17:34,821
than to deal
with Flow's nonsense.
466
00:17:34,906 --> 00:17:36,084
Um...
467
00:17:36,168 --> 00:17:37,370
It was a good thing, too.
468
00:17:37,455 --> 00:17:40,348
A devastating loss
for the music industry today,
469
00:17:40,433 --> 00:17:44,353
as Calvin Yard, one half
of the popular duo Flex n' Flow,
470
00:17:44,437 --> 00:17:46,703
was gunned down in Los Angeles
last night
471
00:17:46,787 --> 00:17:49,034
after leaving
his record launch party.
472
00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,293
It couldn't have been
more than five minutes later
473
00:17:51,378 --> 00:17:53,526
that we got
a shots-fired call.
474
00:17:53,611 --> 00:17:57,966
As Flow's limo was making
the turn on La Cienega,
475
00:17:58,051 --> 00:18:01,361
a car pulled alongside it
and unloaded 20 rounds
476
00:18:01,446 --> 00:18:02,842
at the rear of the vehicle.
477
00:18:04,364 --> 00:18:07,190
Um, Flow was shot
seven times.
478
00:18:08,112 --> 00:18:10,335
Yeah.
479
00:18:10,654 --> 00:18:12,790
That was my first homicide.
480
00:18:12,913 --> 00:18:14,534
I'll never forget it.
481
00:18:14,643 --> 00:18:16,182
It changes you.
482
00:18:16,267 --> 00:18:19,823
I did not have anything to do
with Calvin's death.
483
00:18:20,573 --> 00:18:22,394
But at the time of
his murder, all the talk was...
484
00:18:22,478 --> 00:18:23,574
That was garbage, man.
485
00:18:23,682 --> 00:18:24,754
All garbage.
486
00:18:24,854 --> 00:18:26,168
I loved Calvin
like a brother.
487
00:18:26,253 --> 00:18:27,409
You know, this...
488
00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,276
This is
straight-up exploitive.
489
00:18:29,361 --> 00:18:32,237
Calvin's murder was solved
decades ago, and you know it.
490
00:18:32,398 --> 00:18:35,752
A man named Gary Brown
was convicted of Flow's murder.
491
00:18:35,923 --> 00:18:38,320
It turns out Flow
was sleeping with Gary's wife.
492
00:18:38,404 --> 00:18:41,802
So as far as the LAPD
was concerned, case closed.
493
00:18:41,932 --> 00:18:44,418
Yeah, but the aura of guilt
haunted Lincoln's reputation
494
00:18:44,503 --> 00:18:45,956
like a dark shroud.
495
00:18:46,412 --> 00:18:47,459
I'm sorry.
496
00:18:47,544 --> 00:18:49,120
That was really good.
497
00:18:50,081 --> 00:18:51,557
Thanks.
498
00:18:51,809 --> 00:18:53,640
And with Lincoln alibi'd out,
you know,
499
00:18:53,724 --> 00:18:55,729
the investigation
focused on Yvonne.
500
00:18:55,814 --> 00:18:58,207
Mrs. Thorsen, how long
had you been having an affair
501
00:18:58,292 --> 00:18:59,097
with Morris Mackey?
502
00:18:59,182 --> 00:19:00,342
Please.
503
00:19:00,426 --> 00:19:01,996
I was not sleeping
with him.
504
00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,563
But the footage... from
"Every Rose Has A Thorsen"...
505
00:19:04,647 --> 00:19:06,667
We saw it. That was for the show.
506
00:19:07,151 --> 00:19:08,852
What, are you saying
you staged it?
507
00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,180
It's a reality show.
Of course we staged it.
508
00:19:12,264 --> 00:19:14,225
I can prove it.
I have the rest of the footage.
509
00:19:14,309 --> 00:19:16,300
Boy, you better get
the hell up out of here!
510
00:19:19,113 --> 00:19:20,666
What the hell was that?!
511
00:19:20,751 --> 00:19:23,017
Are you seriously doing this
to me again?!
512
00:19:23,101 --> 00:19:24,018
In my own house!
513
00:19:24,102 --> 00:19:26,368
You got some nerve!
514
00:19:26,452 --> 00:19:28,196
L-Let's talk about all the women
you slept with
515
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,980
when you were F-Flex?
516
00:19:30,064 --> 00:19:31,276
Cut!
517
00:19:31,980 --> 00:19:33,983
Cut, cut, cut, cut.
518
00:19:34,068 --> 00:19:37,335
Linc, buddy,
you're going off-script.
519
00:19:37,419 --> 00:19:38,606
"I can't believe
you're seriously
520
00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:39,816
doing this to me again"?
521
00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:41,426
That's not the line.
522
00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:42,863
Yeah, man,
I was improv'ing a little.
523
00:19:42,947 --> 00:19:44,734
Yeah, maybe not do that,
okay?
524
00:19:44,818 --> 00:19:46,466
It's a lot more powerful
if this is the first time
525
00:19:46,550 --> 00:19:47,781
Yvonne has stepped out
on you.
526
00:19:47,865 --> 00:19:49,604
Okay.
So, Morris, how did I do?
527
00:19:49,867 --> 00:19:51,436
It was a bit big.
528
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,351
Yeah, maybe, uh,
dial it back a hair.
529
00:19:53,435 --> 00:19:54,570
Let's go again.
530
00:19:54,839 --> 00:19:56,180
Back to one.
531
00:19:56,264 --> 00:19:57,442
Go.
532
00:19:57,526 --> 00:19:58,746
We're making a show,
people.
533
00:20:00,291 --> 00:20:03,099
None of that was in the footage
you turned over to us.
534
00:20:03,184 --> 00:20:04,754
Oops. My bad.
535
00:20:04,838 --> 00:20:07,061
We want everything...
Now...
536
00:20:07,145 --> 00:20:09,063
Or you'll be arrested
for obstruction.
537
00:20:09,362 --> 00:20:11,543
Ooh, that was good.
538
00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:13,545
Do you think I can get
a copy of that?
539
00:20:13,629 --> 00:20:15,547
That will play really well
in the show.
540
00:20:15,631 --> 00:20:17,245
Mrs. Thorsen,
this is serious.
541
00:20:17,329 --> 00:20:19,191
Morris Mackey was murdered
in your house.
542
00:20:19,276 --> 00:20:20,639
Your son
is still a suspect.
543
00:20:20,723 --> 00:20:22,685
Just like the police
to only focus
544
00:20:22,769 --> 00:20:24,818
on what's
in front of their nose.
545
00:20:24,902 --> 00:20:27,472
Morris Mackey didn't just appear
out of thin air
546
00:20:27,556 --> 00:20:28,952
when he started working
for me.
547
00:20:29,036 --> 00:20:31,605
Honey,
the man had enemies.
548
00:20:31,690 --> 00:20:36,699
Crowd chanting "We are Q!
We are Q!"...
549
00:20:36,783 --> 00:20:38,179
They're the crazy ones!
550
00:20:38,263 --> 00:20:39,702
We're the sane ones!
551
00:20:39,786 --> 00:20:41,988
You're the cult!
You're sheep!
552
00:20:42,073 --> 00:20:43,967
Prior to working
with the Thorsen family,
553
00:20:44,051 --> 00:20:47,492
Morris had been hired by a bunch
of QAnon conspiracy theorists.
554
00:20:47,576 --> 00:20:49,629
Apparently, they didn't like
the negative publicity
555
00:20:49,714 --> 00:20:50,757
they were getting,
556
00:20:50,841 --> 00:20:52,612
and they wanted
to show their side.
557
00:20:52,697 --> 00:20:54,020
Try to control
the narrative.
558
00:20:54,105 --> 00:20:55,222
- Mm.
- So what happened?
559
00:20:55,306 --> 00:20:57,180
Morris was allowed
into the inner sanctum.
560
00:20:57,325 --> 00:20:59,983
Conducted dozens of interviews
with founders and followers.
561
00:21:00,067 --> 00:21:02,029
But he didn't make
a propaganda film,
562
00:21:02,113 --> 00:21:03,198
he told the truth.
563
00:21:03,283 --> 00:21:04,533
We're in a war.
564
00:21:04,617 --> 00:21:06,535
Every one of us is prepared
to start killing
565
00:21:06,620 --> 00:21:07,512
for our freedom.
566
00:21:07,596 --> 00:21:08,573
Morris may have won
an Emmy,
567
00:21:08,658 --> 00:21:10,449
but he also pissed off
a lot of unhinged
568
00:21:10,534 --> 00:21:12,082
and hyper-violent people.
569
00:21:12,166 --> 00:21:13,692
The storm is coming.
570
00:21:13,776 --> 00:21:15,229
There will be retribution.
571
00:21:16,315 --> 00:21:17,824
I've heard
rumors that you have insight into
572
00:21:17,908 --> 00:21:19,581
the QAnon angle on this case.
573
00:21:19,666 --> 00:21:22,308
Have you ever tried to put
toothpaste back in the tube?
574
00:21:22,393 --> 00:21:24,777
Look, I know
it's an expression,
575
00:21:24,862 --> 00:21:27,065
but have you actually tried
to do it?
576
00:21:27,463 --> 00:21:28,753
I have.
577
00:21:28,971 --> 00:21:30,590
It's basically impossible.
578
00:21:30,675 --> 00:21:32,466
And what do you think Q
is trying to tell people
579
00:21:32,550 --> 00:21:35,026
with his Q-Drops,
these cryptic messages?
580
00:21:35,111 --> 00:21:36,667
I really wasn't trying
to say anything.
581
00:21:36,752 --> 00:21:39,628
I was just typing, and maybe
I got a little carried away.
582
00:21:39,713 --> 00:21:41,565
Wait.
What did you say?
583
00:21:42,595 --> 00:21:46,307
Well, I guess now is as good
a time as any to reveal it.
584
00:21:48,566 --> 00:21:50,089
I'm Q.
585
00:21:50,174 --> 00:21:51,570
Smitty is Q?
586
00:21:51,655 --> 00:21:52,572
I'm sorry. What?
587
00:21:52,657 --> 00:21:54,183
- Lord, give me strength.
- What?
588
00:21:54,267 --> 00:21:56,751
A lot of writers
use pseudonyms.
589
00:21:56,835 --> 00:21:59,292
Q is my first initial,
so...
590
00:21:59,377 --> 00:22:01,409
Hey, is my name down there?
591
00:22:02,570 --> 00:22:03,870
But it was an accident?
592
00:22:03,955 --> 00:22:06,378
He... He didn't start it
on purpose?
593
00:22:06,463 --> 00:22:07,511
That's what he said.
594
00:22:07,595 --> 00:22:08,991
Yeah,
sounds like Smitty.
595
00:22:09,076 --> 00:22:11,124
I was trying to start
the fan-fiction club
596
00:22:11,209 --> 00:22:13,737
for "This Is Us,"
and things just got out of hand.
597
00:22:13,939 --> 00:22:15,465
What the hell
does "This is Us" fanfic
598
00:22:15,549 --> 00:22:16,682
have to do with a cult?
599
00:22:16,767 --> 00:22:19,947
I mistakenly mixed cough syrup
with diet pills
600
00:22:20,032 --> 00:22:22,603
when I was writing
this satanic, alien story line
601
00:22:22,687 --> 00:22:24,518
for Jack and Rebecca.
602
00:22:24,647 --> 00:22:27,349
I woke up the next morning
and read it...
603
00:22:27,434 --> 00:22:28,699
None of it made sense.
604
00:22:28,844 --> 00:22:31,066
But, overnight,
I'd gotten so many followers,
605
00:22:31,151 --> 00:22:32,373
I just went with it.
606
00:22:32,458 --> 00:22:35,128
You can't put the toothpaste
back in the tube.
607
00:22:36,387 --> 00:22:40,206
Morris had received threats from
hundreds of QAnon followers,
608
00:22:40,291 --> 00:22:42,688
but when we started
investigating them,
609
00:22:42,837 --> 00:22:44,737
one immediately stood out.
610
00:22:44,854 --> 00:22:46,104
Tell me
about Connor Hart.
611
00:22:46,188 --> 00:22:47,584
What about him
got your attention?
612
00:22:47,668 --> 00:22:50,282
Well, he was working as a
cameraman on the reality show,
613
00:22:50,366 --> 00:22:52,331
so... that.
614
00:22:53,548 --> 00:22:55,432
Connor,
thanks for coming down.
615
00:22:55,517 --> 00:22:57,378
I'm not in trouble, am I?
616
00:22:57,463 --> 00:23:00,151
No. We just need to clear
a few things up.
617
00:23:00,390 --> 00:23:02,699
I told you
everything I know.
618
00:23:02,837 --> 00:23:05,887
I was getting a battery,
and he was just lying there.
619
00:23:06,175 --> 00:23:07,614
I'm not sure
if you're aware,
620
00:23:07,699 --> 00:23:10,139
but it's common to run
background checks on witnesses.
621
00:23:10,224 --> 00:23:12,026
And when we looked into you,
we discovered
622
00:23:12,111 --> 00:23:13,289
that you're a member
of QAnon.
623
00:23:13,381 --> 00:23:14,667
No, no, no, I...
624
00:23:14,752 --> 00:23:16,839
I may have gone
to a political rally or two,
625
00:23:16,924 --> 00:23:18,233
but I'm really
not into that.
626
00:23:18,438 --> 00:23:19,878
I swear.
627
00:23:20,014 --> 00:23:21,332
We're in a war.
628
00:23:21,416 --> 00:23:24,534
Every one of us is prepared to
start killing for our freedom.
629
00:23:24,619 --> 00:23:26,102
The storm is coming.
630
00:23:26,272 --> 00:23:27,624
There will be retribution.
631
00:23:33,024 --> 00:23:35,552
So, clearly,
you are a follower of Q.
632
00:23:35,637 --> 00:23:36,941
Why would you work
for Morris?
633
00:23:37,065 --> 00:23:38,432
Honestly?
634
00:23:38,566 --> 00:23:40,027
I realized
Morris was the best thing
635
00:23:40,112 --> 00:23:41,676
that could have happened
to the movement.
636
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,986
That makes no sense.
637
00:23:43,071 --> 00:23:44,534
But it does.
638
00:23:44,619 --> 00:23:47,600
Morris's documentary exposed
who was a true believer.
639
00:23:47,685 --> 00:23:49,237
And who wasn't.
640
00:23:49,842 --> 00:23:51,651
He never admitted it,
641
00:23:52,074 --> 00:23:54,370
but I think Morris
was working for Q.
642
00:23:55,023 --> 00:23:56,811
That's why I followed him
to the next gig.
643
00:23:56,896 --> 00:23:59,307
Do you still consider yourself
a believer of Q?
644
00:23:59,392 --> 00:24:01,511
Well, some stuff
didn't come true.
645
00:24:02,267 --> 00:24:04,316
The London bombing,
the Pope's arrest,
646
00:24:04,401 --> 00:24:05,710
Zuckerberg still has a job.
647
00:24:05,795 --> 00:24:07,452
January 20th
came and went,
648
00:24:07,643 --> 00:24:09,691
March 4th came and went.
649
00:24:09,877 --> 00:24:12,378
I'm starting to think Kennedy
is still dead.
650
00:24:12,483 --> 00:24:13,530
Both of them.
651
00:24:13,685 --> 00:24:14,784
Mm.
652
00:24:14,869 --> 00:24:17,788
So you don't believe
in Q anymore?
653
00:24:17,939 --> 00:24:19,596
Oh, I believe every word.
654
00:24:19,711 --> 00:24:21,150
Connor was, um...
655
00:24:21,235 --> 00:24:23,022
Deranged?
656
00:24:23,152 --> 00:24:25,506
Let's say...
reality-challenged,
657
00:24:25,591 --> 00:24:27,291
which doesn't make him
a killer.
658
00:24:27,413 --> 00:24:30,332
No. And the fact that he had
a camera on his shoulder
659
00:24:30,417 --> 00:24:31,893
for the entire
murder window
660
00:24:31,978 --> 00:24:34,191
means that he couldn't
have killed Morris,
661
00:24:34,276 --> 00:24:36,214
so we were back
to square one.
662
00:24:36,298 --> 00:24:38,042
When the QAnon lead
didn't pan out,
663
00:24:38,126 --> 00:24:39,870
how did you pick up
the pieces of the case?
664
00:24:39,954 --> 00:24:42,534
We rolled up our sleeves
and put in the hours.
665
00:24:42,619 --> 00:24:44,183
We took on
the painstaking process
666
00:24:44,268 --> 00:24:46,877
of reviewing
every piece of video Morris shot
667
00:24:46,961 --> 00:24:48,357
in the weeks
before he died,
668
00:24:48,441 --> 00:24:52,089
including the footage
Yvonne "forgot" to give us.
669
00:24:52,174 --> 00:24:54,612
Until I found something
that changed everything.
670
00:24:56,798 --> 00:24:58,042
Lopez!
671
00:24:58,861 --> 00:25:00,343
Come look at this!
672
00:25:00,433 --> 00:25:02,345
So I immediately informed
Detective Lopez
673
00:25:02,431 --> 00:25:03,938
of what I discovered.
Look what I just found.
674
00:25:04,022 --> 00:25:05,374
Wow.
675
00:25:05,458 --> 00:25:06,375
What?
676
00:25:06,459 --> 00:25:08,246
Look.
677
00:25:08,423 --> 00:25:10,077
Okay.
678
00:25:15,483 --> 00:25:18,097
I thought I knew everything
about Patrick's murder.
679
00:25:18,321 --> 00:25:19,814
I had done my homework.
680
00:25:20,214 --> 00:25:24,564
But the truth was hiding right
in front of me all this time.
681
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:27,912
I know
who killed Patrick Hayes.
682
00:25:27,997 --> 00:25:29,620
And I can prove it. I...
683
00:25:31,821 --> 00:25:33,267
Uh, someone's here.
684
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:35,604
More to follow.
685
00:25:35,743 --> 00:25:37,231
That video
was recorded
686
00:25:37,316 --> 00:25:39,338
minutes before
Morris was murdered.
687
00:25:41,384 --> 00:25:42,720
I mean, Morris
claiming that he knew
688
00:25:42,804 --> 00:25:44,800
who the killer was
must've been energizing for you.
689
00:25:44,884 --> 00:25:46,457
Finally. A break
in your roommate's murder...
690
00:25:46,541 --> 00:25:49,088
No, he...
He wasn't my roommate.
691
00:25:49,252 --> 00:25:51,424
And I... I hate when people
call him that...
692
00:25:51,588 --> 00:25:53,292
You know, like we found
each other
693
00:25:53,377 --> 00:25:55,471
on some French Craigslist
or something like that.
694
00:25:55,556 --> 00:25:56,831
Patrick was my best friend,
695
00:25:56,916 --> 00:25:58,285
from the time
that we were little kids.
696
00:25:58,369 --> 00:25:59,909
I mean, I was at his house
so often,
697
00:25:59,994 --> 00:26:01,738
his dad bought us
two of everything,
698
00:26:01,822 --> 00:26:03,044
you know, like siblings.
699
00:26:03,128 --> 00:26:04,642
Yeah,
Patrick was my brother.
700
00:26:04,727 --> 00:26:06,260
How did it feel to hear
that Morris thought
701
00:26:06,344 --> 00:26:07,884
he'd discovered
who killed Patrick?
702
00:26:07,969 --> 00:26:12,237
I mean, there had been
so many theories over the years.
703
00:26:12,337 --> 00:26:14,916
And so many people think
that they had it figured out.
704
00:26:15,001 --> 00:26:18,486
I... I just never really
got my hopes up about it.
705
00:26:18,641 --> 00:26:20,342
This was different, though.
I mean, he made a break
706
00:26:20,426 --> 00:26:22,003
in the case
and died minutes later.
707
00:26:22,088 --> 00:26:23,384
You have to see
the connection.
708
00:26:23,469 --> 00:26:27,781
Well, uh, in the words
of Detective Harper...
709
00:26:28,054 --> 00:26:31,103
We look for facts,
not stories.
710
00:26:31,188 --> 00:26:32,802
Yeah, sure, but, I mean,
the timing...
711
00:26:32,887 --> 00:26:34,979
I mean, these murders
had to be related.
712
00:26:35,064 --> 00:26:37,461
Whoever killed Patrick
also killed Morris.
713
00:26:37,546 --> 00:26:38,993
Is it possible
Morris found out
714
00:26:39,077 --> 00:26:40,471
that Aaron was the killer
all along?
715
00:26:40,555 --> 00:26:42,256
Not a chance.
The Paris police
716
00:26:42,341 --> 00:26:45,595
never had a shred of evidence
against Aaron.
717
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,293
They fumbled
the entire case.
718
00:26:47,378 --> 00:26:48,601
Right off the bat,
the paparazzi
719
00:26:48,685 --> 00:26:50,385
completely contaminated
the crime scene.
720
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:52,388
Speaking French...
721
00:27:07,524 --> 00:27:09,573
But Aaron's DNA
was all over the murder weapon.
722
00:27:09,657 --> 00:27:11,278
You mean the knife
the killer pulled
723
00:27:11,363 --> 00:27:13,940
from the kitchen block
on Aaron and Patrick's counter?
724
00:27:14,025 --> 00:27:16,434
What... What do you want to bet
that if we went to your house,
725
00:27:16,518 --> 00:27:18,786
we'd find your DNA
all over your stuff, too?
726
00:27:18,871 --> 00:27:20,597
I mean...
727
00:27:20,824 --> 00:27:22,176
Was that too mean?
728
00:27:22,261 --> 00:27:24,629
No, that actually
felt good.
729
00:27:24,818 --> 00:27:26,300
It was a dumb question.
730
00:27:26,385 --> 00:27:28,128
From the beginning,
the French police's case
731
00:27:28,213 --> 00:27:29,543
against Aaron
seemed flawed...
732
00:27:29,628 --> 00:27:31,546
Oh, yeah.
Their case was a mess...
733
00:27:31,682 --> 00:27:33,933
And their forensics
were compromised.
734
00:27:34,018 --> 00:27:36,668
I mean, the theory
that Aaron killed Patrick
735
00:27:36,753 --> 00:27:38,967
because he didn't do his share
of the chores never made sense.
736
00:27:39,051 --> 00:27:40,863
For one thing,
they had a housekeeper.
737
00:27:40,948 --> 00:27:42,432
For another,
Aaron is not a psychopath,
738
00:27:42,516 --> 00:27:44,465
which you would have to be
to stab your roommate
739
00:27:44,550 --> 00:27:46,183
for leaving dirty dishes
in the sink.
740
00:27:46,268 --> 00:27:49,894
I mean, I've come close to
stabbing him over dirty dishes,
741
00:27:49,979 --> 00:27:52,463
but that's different...
We're married.
742
00:27:52,548 --> 00:27:53,621
Mm.
743
00:27:53,706 --> 00:27:54,683
What do you say
to the theory
744
00:27:54,768 --> 00:27:57,090
that Aaron had a falling out
with his roommate?
745
00:27:57,175 --> 00:27:59,894
Aaron and Patrick
were out partying that night.
746
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,653
Does that sound like
a broken friendship
747
00:28:01,738 --> 00:28:02,754
careening towards murder?
748
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:05,302
By his own admission, Aaron was
taking prescription drugs.
749
00:28:05,387 --> 00:28:08,175
Yeah. For a football injury
he got in high school.
750
00:28:08,284 --> 00:28:11,421
They impair your ability
to operate heavy machinery,
751
00:28:11,506 --> 00:28:14,386
not... not turn you
into a hardened killer.
752
00:28:15,782 --> 00:28:17,472
Aaron passed out early.
753
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:19,199
Woke up in the middle
of the night.
754
00:28:19,284 --> 00:28:22,840
Went to pee
and found Patrick's body.
755
00:28:31,385 --> 00:28:34,831
The French police took one look
at a young Black man,
756
00:28:34,916 --> 00:28:36,355
and decided he was the killer.
757
00:28:36,496 --> 00:28:38,871
I mean, they didn't even pursue
any other suspects.
758
00:28:38,956 --> 00:28:40,885
Bonjour, I appreciate you
speaking with me.
759
00:28:40,970 --> 00:28:43,043
Your accent
is terrible.
760
00:28:43,128 --> 00:28:44,438
Um, Detective,
you've been accused
761
00:28:44,522 --> 00:28:46,788
of leading an incredibly biased
investigation...
762
00:28:46,965 --> 00:28:48,738
Mais non.
763
00:28:48,823 --> 00:28:50,218
We followed the facts.
764
00:28:50,303 --> 00:28:52,299
Mm. And the fact
that Patrick picked up
765
00:28:52,384 --> 00:28:53,780
a woman at the club
that night?
766
00:28:53,864 --> 00:28:55,042
Collette Lavinge?
767
00:28:55,126 --> 00:28:57,402
She was seen leaving
the apartment
768
00:28:57,487 --> 00:28:58,883
before the time of death.
769
00:28:58,968 --> 00:29:00,233
Understand?
770
00:29:00,318 --> 00:29:02,454
What about her jealous,
controlling boyfriend?
771
00:29:02,610 --> 00:29:04,027
Did you interview him?
772
00:29:05,752 --> 00:29:08,323
- No. We did not.
- Mm.
773
00:29:08,477 --> 00:29:10,020
But the thing that
ultimately got you released
774
00:29:10,104 --> 00:29:12,718
from prison was the
identification of this man.
775
00:29:12,803 --> 00:29:14,408
Yeah.
Collette's boyfriend, Julien.
776
00:29:14,492 --> 00:29:16,488
Handsome. French.
777
00:29:16,573 --> 00:29:18,629
And, you know,
let's just say it...
778
00:29:18,714 --> 00:29:20,240
He's super white.
You know?
779
00:29:20,346 --> 00:29:21,873
Uh, what is...
780
00:29:21,958 --> 00:29:24,267
What is "Finance Bro"
in French?
781
00:29:24,352 --> 00:29:26,371
Shouldn't you know that?
You spent years in France.
782
00:29:26,507 --> 00:29:28,910
Yeah, but I didn't...
I didn't retain it.
783
00:29:29,082 --> 00:29:32,131
It was actually a group
of Internet sleuths
784
00:29:32,255 --> 00:29:33,550
who found
Collette's boyfriend.
785
00:29:33,635 --> 00:29:37,215
They spent countless hours
investigating Aaron's case.
786
00:29:37,398 --> 00:29:38,910
They also pointed
the finger at dozens
787
00:29:38,995 --> 00:29:40,608
of innocent people,
ruining their lives.
788
00:29:40,693 --> 00:29:43,230
Yes. Some members of the group
took it a little too far.
789
00:29:43,454 --> 00:29:46,340
We've been looking at the
Internet sleuths, actually.
790
00:29:46,425 --> 00:29:50,496
Any chance you post under
the title "truecrimejunkie"?
791
00:29:51,285 --> 00:29:52,285
I...
792
00:29:53,597 --> 00:29:56,246
That... That...
That doesn't s...
793
00:29:56,398 --> 00:29:58,664
I might have logged on once...
Once or twice, yeah.
794
00:29:58,786 --> 00:30:00,443
Seriously?
795
00:30:00,528 --> 00:30:02,360
I mean, can you not see
how people would take that
796
00:30:02,444 --> 00:30:03,840
as a clear sign of bias?
797
00:30:03,925 --> 00:30:07,758
I categorically deny any
preferential treatment, okay?
798
00:30:07,843 --> 00:30:09,377
How can you say
that with a straight face,
799
00:30:09,461 --> 00:30:10,944
when it was revealed that Julien
was the son
800
00:30:11,028 --> 00:30:12,371
of the French
Finance Minister?
801
00:30:12,456 --> 00:30:14,121
Are you telling me you didn't
get a phone call asking you...
802
00:30:14,988 --> 00:30:15,992
Merci beaucoup.
803
00:30:16,076 --> 00:30:17,298
C'est terminé.
804
00:30:17,382 --> 00:30:18,621
Merci.
805
00:30:18,713 --> 00:30:20,587
Oh, come on. Don't do that.
Come back.
806
00:30:20,672 --> 00:30:22,200
So, it must've been
so frustrating to learn
807
00:30:22,284 --> 00:30:24,071
that the French police
knew his identity
808
00:30:24,156 --> 00:30:26,644
before your first trial
and didn't say anything.
809
00:30:26,729 --> 00:30:28,254
I mean, yeah.
The... The good news
810
00:30:28,339 --> 00:30:31,562
was that the fact
that they ignored Julien...
811
00:30:31,685 --> 00:30:33,629
Uh, it got me my retrial.
812
00:30:33,714 --> 00:30:38,666
But the bad news was the
unidentified DNA on the knife...
813
00:30:38,751 --> 00:30:39,973
It... it didn't belong
to Julien.
814
00:30:40,057 --> 00:30:42,193
So he...
You know, he had an alibi.
815
00:30:42,278 --> 00:30:43,673
As horrible
as the experience was,
816
00:30:43,758 --> 00:30:45,634
is there anything that you
actually miss from that time?
817
00:30:45,718 --> 00:30:47,157
I miss?
818
00:30:47,242 --> 00:30:48,116
God, no.
819
00:30:48,271 --> 00:30:49,613
W...
820
00:30:50,267 --> 00:30:51,750
Well, Carlos.
821
00:30:51,865 --> 00:30:52,825
Carlos?
822
00:30:52,941 --> 00:30:53,771
Yeah.
823
00:30:53,949 --> 00:30:56,085
Uh, Carlos the Jackal.
824
00:30:56,170 --> 00:30:57,621
He... He was my cellmate.
825
00:30:57,706 --> 00:31:00,407
And, uh, man, pbht,
he has some stories.
826
00:31:00,633 --> 00:31:02,690
So you're saying the Jackal
got you through
827
00:31:02,775 --> 00:31:04,176
your year and a half
of incarceration?
828
00:31:04,260 --> 00:31:05,394
No.
829
00:31:05,577 --> 00:31:06,494
My mom did.
830
00:31:06,648 --> 00:31:08,011
Yeah, I don't...
831
00:31:08,096 --> 00:31:10,201
I don't think I would have got
through it without her.
832
00:31:10,285 --> 00:31:11,605
Um...
833
00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:15,349
She actually leased an apartment
in Paris
834
00:31:15,434 --> 00:31:16,830
until I was released.
835
00:31:16,915 --> 00:31:19,137
And, uh, she visited me
every week.
836
00:31:19,222 --> 00:31:21,011
And I'll tell you what.
If they would have let her,
837
00:31:21,095 --> 00:31:22,100
she would have been over there
every day.
838
00:31:22,184 --> 00:31:23,933
Of course I moved to Paris.
839
00:31:24,057 --> 00:31:25,230
I'm his mother.
840
00:31:25,315 --> 00:31:27,799
I would have served the prison
time for him if I could.
841
00:31:27,884 --> 00:31:28,975
You're a close family.
842
00:31:29,060 --> 00:31:29,977
We are.
843
00:31:30,062 --> 00:31:31,501
We've been tested.
844
00:31:31,586 --> 00:31:33,243
Were you close
with Patrick?
845
00:31:33,334 --> 00:31:34,425
Yes.
846
00:31:34,510 --> 00:31:35,732
I adored him.
847
00:31:35,817 --> 00:31:37,343
He was a wonderful boy.
848
00:31:37,428 --> 00:31:38,562
According
to your friends,
849
00:31:38,647 --> 00:31:39,685
you thought Patrick
was a troublemaker,
850
00:31:39,769 --> 00:31:40,885
and a bad influence
on Aaron.
851
00:31:40,969 --> 00:31:43,191
Anyone who said that
was lying.
852
00:31:43,276 --> 00:31:46,769
Yvonne... were you in Paris
the day Patrick was murdered?
853
00:31:47,583 --> 00:31:50,372
Of course not.
I was here in LA.
854
00:31:50,659 --> 00:31:51,924
How do you explain
this footage,
855
00:31:52,009 --> 00:31:53,884
taken the day
of Patrick's murder?
856
00:32:01,947 --> 00:32:03,299
Oh, hell, no.
857
00:32:03,404 --> 00:32:04,708
This interview is over.
858
00:32:04,793 --> 00:32:06,668
- Yvonne.
- No. No.
859
00:32:06,752 --> 00:32:08,518
We did not okay
this question.
860
00:32:08,603 --> 00:32:10,347
Who do you think you are?
861
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,362
Fired!
862
00:32:11,447 --> 00:32:12,716
I actually don't work
for you.
863
00:32:12,801 --> 00:32:14,518
You need to kiss my ass.
864
00:32:15,097 --> 00:32:16,707
Did you know
that your mother was in Paris
865
00:32:16,791 --> 00:32:18,245
the day that
Patrick was killed?
866
00:32:18,620 --> 00:32:19,714
What?
867
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,949
No, she was...
She was home in LA.
868
00:32:23,034 --> 00:32:24,636
Mm. We have footage
of her shopping
869
00:32:24,721 --> 00:32:26,652
on the Champs-Elysées
the night of the murder.
870
00:32:26,737 --> 00:32:28,946
Okay, well, that...
That's impossible.
871
00:32:29,031 --> 00:32:30,518
Isn't this her?
872
00:32:40,270 --> 00:32:41,753
Okay.
873
00:32:42,646 --> 00:32:44,621
Officer Thorsen,
come back.
874
00:32:44,706 --> 00:32:46,940
Come on.
Let's finish this interview.
875
00:32:47,159 --> 00:32:48,482
Hey, there he is.
876
00:32:48,566 --> 00:32:50,418
- You lied to me.
- Jimmy, get down.
877
00:32:50,503 --> 00:32:51,621
You lied to everyone.
878
00:32:51,706 --> 00:32:53,515
I didn't want all
my private business out there
879
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:55,066
for all the world
to see.
880
00:32:55,151 --> 00:32:56,894
Mom, you are literally
producing
881
00:32:56,979 --> 00:32:58,308
a reality show
about our lives.
882
00:32:58,393 --> 00:32:59,564
That's different.
883
00:32:59,648 --> 00:33:02,269
I was on trial for murder,
fighting for my life.
884
00:33:02,354 --> 00:33:03,277
Exactly.
885
00:33:03,362 --> 00:33:05,761
The fact that I was even
in Paris on that night...
886
00:33:05,846 --> 00:33:07,035
How does that help you?
887
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,247
And what was
your reaction
888
00:33:08,331 --> 00:33:09,341
to the revelation
that Aaron's mother
889
00:33:09,425 --> 00:33:10,919
was in Paris at the time
of the murder?
890
00:33:11,003 --> 00:33:12,660
Like, bombshell.
Game changer.
891
00:33:12,745 --> 00:33:14,840
I mean, none of this stuff came
out at the time of the trial.
892
00:33:14,924 --> 00:33:15,979
This is...
893
00:33:16,064 --> 00:33:18,332
It's so exciting,
what it means for the case...
894
00:33:18,417 --> 00:33:20,455
Not for Aaron.
His mom lied to him.
895
00:33:20,835 --> 00:33:23,359
Y-Yes, that...
Well, that is true.
896
00:33:25,979 --> 00:33:27,479
Thanks for coming back in.
897
00:33:27,619 --> 00:33:28,809
We just need
to clear something up
898
00:33:28,893 --> 00:33:30,169
about the night Patrick
was killed.
899
00:33:30,253 --> 00:33:33,058
Patrick? I thought this was
about Morris's murder.
900
00:33:33,143 --> 00:33:34,686
Oh, it's about both.
901
00:33:34,831 --> 00:33:38,168
See, you felt Patrick
was a bad influence on your son.
902
00:33:38,252 --> 00:33:40,605
So you flew Aaron to Paris
to separate them.
903
00:33:40,690 --> 00:33:42,868
Only Patrick
followed Aaron there,
904
00:33:42,952 --> 00:33:45,044
so you took matters
into your own hands.
905
00:33:45,128 --> 00:33:47,351
You flew to Paris,
you killed Patrick.
906
00:33:47,435 --> 00:33:49,266
But somehow Morris
found out,
907
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:51,877
so to keep
your deadly secret,
908
00:33:52,061 --> 00:33:53,454
you killed him too.
909
00:33:54,877 --> 00:33:58,339
Yeah,
that's a fun theory...
910
00:33:58,490 --> 00:34:00,886
A good story...
But you're wrong.
911
00:34:01,073 --> 00:34:02,627
Then explain
why you went to Paris
912
00:34:02,711 --> 00:34:04,586
and why you kept it
a secret.
913
00:34:04,670 --> 00:34:07,893
Because I was
with Jean-Pierre Darby.
914
00:34:08,034 --> 00:34:09,329
Who?
The footballer?
915
00:34:09,413 --> 00:34:12,724
Yes, we met a month before,
at a fashion show in Milan.
916
00:34:12,808 --> 00:34:14,151
I'm... I'm sorry.
917
00:34:14,260 --> 00:34:16,598
You went to Paris for an
international bootie call?
918
00:34:16,682 --> 00:34:17,686
Yes.
919
00:34:17,770 --> 00:34:19,582
And we were in bed
all night.
920
00:34:19,667 --> 00:34:20,689
Ask him.
921
00:34:20,773 --> 00:34:23,198
Hell, ask the neighbors.
922
00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:25,582
They were determined
to convict you.
923
00:34:25,667 --> 00:34:27,730
Had it come out
that I was in town,
924
00:34:27,815 --> 00:34:29,207
they would've used it
against you,
925
00:34:29,292 --> 00:34:31,878
said that we were conspiring
to kill Patrick.
926
00:34:31,987 --> 00:34:35,167
Coming clean would've only hurt
your case, made it worse.
927
00:34:35,276 --> 00:34:37,315
Yeah, you know what?
I forgot how good you are at that.
928
00:34:37,399 --> 00:34:38,480
At what?
929
00:34:38,565 --> 00:34:40,317
At justifying yourself.
930
00:34:40,401 --> 00:34:43,386
You lied in a murder trial,
you cheated on your husband,
931
00:34:43,471 --> 00:34:45,409
and now you're the hero,
right?
932
00:34:45,493 --> 00:34:46,802
Yeah. Sure, Mom.
933
00:34:46,986 --> 00:34:48,206
We'll go with that.
934
00:34:53,370 --> 00:34:54,852
You accused Aaron's
mother of the murder.
935
00:34:54,936 --> 00:34:56,768
With almost no evidence
to back it up.
936
00:34:56,852 --> 00:34:58,207
I... I did.
937
00:34:58,292 --> 00:35:01,338
And, uh, in my defense,
938
00:35:01,422 --> 00:35:03,471
I'd been scrubbing
reality show footage
939
00:35:03,555 --> 00:35:05,342
for over 200 hours
at that point.
940
00:35:05,426 --> 00:35:06,952
So who broke the case?
941
00:35:07,036 --> 00:35:08,566
Oh, that was
Detective Lopez.
942
00:35:08,651 --> 00:35:10,521
My wife is a badass.
943
00:35:10,605 --> 00:35:12,254
We knew the murders
were connected.
944
00:35:12,339 --> 00:35:13,980
And we knew that
Patrick's murder in Paris
945
00:35:14,065 --> 00:35:15,543
was never
properly investigated.
946
00:35:15,628 --> 00:35:17,572
So I dug
back into that case.
947
00:35:17,656 --> 00:35:19,925
Right now I'm just trying
to build a timeline,
948
00:35:20,010 --> 00:35:22,315
getting to know more
about Patrick's life.
949
00:35:22,399 --> 00:35:24,492
What did the four of you do
that last month?
950
00:35:24,576 --> 00:35:26,121
No detail is too small.
951
00:35:26,206 --> 00:35:27,886
Um...
952
00:35:28,221 --> 00:35:30,346
Let's ask my brain.
953
00:35:30,669 --> 00:35:32,956
I can tell you one thing
that we definitely didn't do.
954
00:35:33,096 --> 00:35:34,153
Go to class.
955
00:35:34,237 --> 00:35:36,387
I mean, Aaron's parents
let him borrow their private jet
956
00:35:36,471 --> 00:35:39,628
anytime he wanted,
so we went all around Europe.
957
00:35:40,081 --> 00:35:41,170
I mean, Italy.
958
00:35:41,255 --> 00:35:42,255
Greece.
959
00:35:42,347 --> 00:35:43,090
French Riviera.
960
00:35:44,219 --> 00:35:44,962
Can I see?
961
00:35:45,046 --> 00:35:46,398
Yeah.
962
00:35:46,482 --> 00:35:48,095
I thought...
Screw school,
963
00:35:48,179 --> 00:35:50,183
when am I ever gonna get to
visit planet rich again, right?
964
00:35:50,267 --> 00:35:52,667
So, Santorini
for the weekend?
965
00:35:52,842 --> 00:35:53,933
Yes, please.
966
00:35:54,018 --> 00:35:55,979
These photos of you guys
on the tarmac,
967
00:35:56,221 --> 00:35:57,737
you always have
so much luggage.
968
00:35:57,822 --> 00:35:59,044
I know.
969
00:35:59,129 --> 00:36:01,525
Rowan always acted like
it was the Oregon Trail.
970
00:36:01,610 --> 00:36:03,137
Why?
Every time I've seen him,
971
00:36:03,222 --> 00:36:05,009
he was wearing a golf tee
and jeans.
972
00:36:05,094 --> 00:36:06,446
Not exactly
a clotheshorse.
973
00:36:06,531 --> 00:36:08,487
Oh, uh...
974
00:36:08,949 --> 00:36:10,084
True.
975
00:36:10,169 --> 00:36:11,695
I wonder
what was in there.
976
00:36:11,780 --> 00:36:13,872
Did you ever see Rowan
with drugs back then?
977
00:36:13,957 --> 00:36:15,469
I mean... yeah.
978
00:36:15,554 --> 00:36:17,255
He was always kind of
"the life of the party,"
979
00:36:17,339 --> 00:36:18,343
if you know what I mean.
980
00:36:18,427 --> 00:36:19,940
- Why?
- Before Paris,
981
00:36:20,025 --> 00:36:22,542
Rowan's family in Iowa
was in financial trouble.
982
00:36:22,627 --> 00:36:23,847
He almost dropped
out of school.
983
00:36:23,931 --> 00:36:26,567
Now he lives in Brentwood
and drives a Porsche.
984
00:36:26,652 --> 00:36:27,776
I guess?
985
00:36:27,861 --> 00:36:30,476
I... I see
you're very excited,
986
00:36:30,561 --> 00:36:33,189
and I love that...
I... I'm not really following.
987
00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:34,278
I...
988
00:36:35,346 --> 00:36:36,714
Hey, Nolan.
989
00:36:36,822 --> 00:36:38,043
Where's Rowan?
990
00:36:38,341 --> 00:36:39,780
Uh, he just left.
991
00:36:39,865 --> 00:36:41,090
Why? I thought
you were done with him?
992
00:36:41,174 --> 00:36:43,956
I was... until I realized
he's the one who killed Patrick.
993
00:36:44,924 --> 00:36:46,846
Alright. Here we go.
Here we go.
994
00:36:46,969 --> 00:36:48,509
Nice, nice.
995
00:36:48,923 --> 00:36:50,014
Bro, it's been crazy.
996
00:36:50,099 --> 00:36:51,426
I've added like
half a million followers
997
00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:52,681
from all the publicity.
998
00:36:52,766 --> 00:36:55,206
What? You think, uh...
You think, uh, Aaron did it?
999
00:36:55,492 --> 00:36:56,648
Pbht. Of course he did.
1000
00:36:56,733 --> 00:36:58,172
The guy's a total psycho.
1001
00:36:58,256 --> 00:37:00,009
Okay, watch this...
1002
00:37:03,580 --> 00:37:05,353
Aw. Fudge.
1003
00:37:05,437 --> 00:37:06,354
Hold on,
I'm gonna do it again...
1004
00:37:06,438 --> 00:37:07,838
Okay, okay.
1005
00:37:07,993 --> 00:37:10,056
- Rowan.
- What the hell?
1006
00:37:10,141 --> 00:37:11,493
We got a warrant
for your arrest.
1007
00:37:11,578 --> 00:37:12,451
What?
1008
00:37:12,536 --> 00:37:14,280
For what?
1009
00:37:14,365 --> 00:37:17,060
For the murders of
Patrick Hayes and Morris Mackey.
1010
00:37:17,145 --> 00:37:18,401
Oh, snap.
1011
00:37:18,486 --> 00:37:19,588
That's crazy.
1012
00:37:19,673 --> 00:37:20,674
And wrong.
1013
00:37:20,759 --> 00:37:22,720
I didn't...
Why would you even think that?
1014
00:37:22,805 --> 00:37:24,376
Because Patrick found out
you were smuggling drugs
1015
00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:26,813
in Aaron's private jet, and
threatened to tell the police.
1016
00:37:26,898 --> 00:37:29,077
Somehow Morris found out
that you killed Patrick
1017
00:37:29,162 --> 00:37:31,385
to protect your secret,
so you killed him too.
1018
00:37:31,470 --> 00:37:32,648
Come on.
That's... I mean...
1019
00:37:32,733 --> 00:37:33,737
That's so... so wrong...
1020
00:37:33,822 --> 00:37:35,261
- Hey! Rowan!
- Rowan!
1021
00:37:37,556 --> 00:37:38,778
- Okay.
- Bro, wait.
1022
00:37:42,083 --> 00:37:43,693
- Oh.
- Oh, snap.
1023
00:37:47,452 --> 00:37:49,022
You okay?
1024
00:37:49,107 --> 00:37:50,590
Alright, you're fine.
1025
00:37:50,675 --> 00:37:52,114
Stand up.
1026
00:37:52,273 --> 00:37:53,800
Put it down.
You're under arrest.
1027
00:37:54,033 --> 00:37:56,607
Rowan always had
these crazy plans.
1028
00:37:56,692 --> 00:37:58,741
You know,
"Let's go to Morocco,"
1029
00:37:58,826 --> 00:38:01,701
or, "Dude, I heard about
this sick party in Ibiza..."
1030
00:38:01,786 --> 00:38:06,037
And I... I...
I never thought about it,
1031
00:38:06,209 --> 00:38:09,912
but he was the one who decided
where we were flying to always.
1032
00:38:10,067 --> 00:38:12,333
And, you know,
now, looking back at it,
1033
00:38:12,425 --> 00:38:16,185
with "cop eyes," I mean,
it is so obvious
1034
00:38:16,406 --> 00:38:18,193
that Rowan
was up to something.
1035
00:38:19,424 --> 00:38:20,730
I just could never see it.
1036
00:38:22,507 --> 00:38:24,857
I mean,
Patrick did, though.
1037
00:38:26,006 --> 00:38:29,530
But, like, why... why...
Why didn't he tell me, you know?
1038
00:38:29,615 --> 00:38:32,008
We talked about everything...
You know, why wouldn't he...
1039
00:38:32,093 --> 00:38:33,573
Why wouldn't he tell me
about this?
1040
00:38:35,523 --> 00:38:37,039
You know, if he had...
1041
00:38:40,123 --> 00:38:41,693
Everything...
1042
00:38:41,855 --> 00:38:43,512
Everything
would've been so different.
1043
00:38:51,375 --> 00:38:52,515
Aaron.
1044
00:38:58,210 --> 00:39:00,128
Is it true?
1045
00:39:00,213 --> 00:39:02,148
Yes, sir.
1046
00:39:02,765 --> 00:39:05,437
Rowan Clauson confessed
to murdering Patrick.
1047
00:39:08,806 --> 00:39:10,578
I'm so sorry
I didn't believe you.
1048
00:39:12,974 --> 00:39:14,664
Can you ever forgive me?
1049
00:39:17,088 --> 00:39:18,263
Of course.
1050
00:39:20,330 --> 00:39:23,162
♪ Say you'll be there for me
1051
00:39:23,402 --> 00:39:26,756
After all this time, the case
of who killed Patrick Hayes
1052
00:39:26,841 --> 00:39:28,411
was finally solved.
1053
00:39:28,496 --> 00:39:30,457
But the question
that lingers is...
1054
00:39:30,542 --> 00:39:33,797
Is whether the emotional wounds
will heal...
1055
00:39:33,882 --> 00:39:36,759
- ♪ When I need you
- Feels gross, right?
1056
00:39:36,851 --> 00:39:39,077
- ♪ I need you
- Yeah.
1057
00:39:40,295 --> 00:39:41,921
♪ Say you'll be there
1058
00:39:42,006 --> 00:39:44,601
- Two people were dead.
- ♪ ...for an answer that I...
1059
00:39:44,702 --> 00:39:47,233
Even after you catch the guy,
it's still just...
1060
00:39:47,318 --> 00:39:48,514
- ♪ Look down and see
- awefull.
1061
00:39:48,598 --> 00:39:51,872
- ♪ The body I can barely breathe in ♪
- I'm just glad the truth finally came out.
1062
00:39:52,058 --> 00:39:55,977
Aaron's innocence is now proven
without a doubt.
1063
00:39:56,254 --> 00:39:58,825
He deserves to move on
with the rest of his life.
1064
00:39:58,910 --> 00:40:01,125
And we'll be here
to help him do that.
1065
00:40:01,395 --> 00:40:02,835
And now that it's over,
1066
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,359
what's your view
of Aaron Thorsen?
1067
00:40:04,457 --> 00:40:05,711
Ah.
1068
00:40:05,796 --> 00:40:09,667
I will admit, it took a minute
for Aaron to win me over.
1069
00:40:09,752 --> 00:40:12,461
But once he did,
I knew he'd be a good cop.
1070
00:40:12,546 --> 00:40:14,375
- ♪ I need your help
- Alright, I'm done.
1071
00:40:14,460 --> 00:40:15,758
Uh, wait.
1072
00:40:15,843 --> 00:40:19,508
This is not gonna air before
his training is done, right?
1073
00:40:19,633 --> 00:40:21,725
'Cause I gotta...
I gotta keep him hungry.
1074
00:40:21,810 --> 00:40:25,121
I never once stopped
believing in my boy.
1075
00:40:25,206 --> 00:40:27,385
Has he forgiven you
for the lie?
1076
00:40:27,470 --> 00:40:28,930
He will.
1077
00:40:29,018 --> 00:40:31,414
There's nothing our family
can't get through.
1078
00:40:31,499 --> 00:40:33,256
It looks like Aaron
will finally be able
1079
00:40:33,341 --> 00:40:34,445
to put all this behind him.
1080
00:40:34,530 --> 00:40:36,753
That's... That's not really
how it works.
1081
00:40:36,915 --> 00:40:40,269
I mean, as someone
who has had friends killed,
1082
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,670
you never really
get closure.
1083
00:40:42,755 --> 00:40:46,336
All you can hope for
is that the memories of them...
1084
00:40:46,421 --> 00:40:49,296
The... the good times
you had together...
1085
00:40:49,381 --> 00:40:51,453
Are what you see
when you think of them.
1086
00:40:51,538 --> 00:40:53,580
How does it feel,
having the truth come out
1087
00:40:53,665 --> 00:40:54,800
after all these years?
1088
00:40:54,884 --> 00:40:56,584
♪ ...when I need you to
1089
00:40:56,668 --> 00:40:58,717
I-I... I don't know.
1090
00:40:58,801 --> 00:41:00,305
It's...
It's still sinking in.
1091
00:41:00,390 --> 00:41:02,327
This is obviously gonna make
compelling episodes
1092
00:41:02,412 --> 00:41:03,111
of your reality show.
1093
00:41:03,196 --> 00:41:04,594
Oh, no. That...
1094
00:41:04,795 --> 00:41:07,725
"Every Rose Has A Thorsen"
is not moving forward.
1095
00:41:07,810 --> 00:41:10,118
I mean, it was...
It was a mistake to do
1096
00:41:10,203 --> 00:41:11,656
in the first place, yeah.
1097
00:41:11,741 --> 00:41:13,820
I mean, the only reason
why I did agree to it
1098
00:41:13,936 --> 00:41:16,133
was to rehabilitate
my image.
1099
00:41:16,228 --> 00:41:21,236
Um, but ironically it ended up
doing something even better...
1100
00:41:21,321 --> 00:41:23,531
Which was uncover the truth.
1101
00:41:23,694 --> 00:41:25,219
So what
are you gonna do now?
1102
00:41:25,304 --> 00:41:28,195
♪ You reach out and say
what I need to hear ♪
1103
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,969
♪ Might be dark right now ♪
1104
00:41:31,053 --> 00:41:34,013
- ♪ But the light is near ♪
- Live.
1105
00:41:34,097 --> 00:41:36,250
- ♪ And I know that you...
- For myself.
1106
00:41:36,335 --> 00:41:39,234
♪ ...will always be here
Mm-hmm.
1107
00:41:39,318 --> 00:41:40,518
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