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I'm the reality TV producer here. 12 00:00:23,157 --> 00:00:25,358 I just want to say, this has been so fascinating. 13 00:00:25,443 --> 00:00:28,058 I love true crime, and to be in a documentary, 14 00:00:28,142 --> 00:00:29,624 it's just... It's a dream come true. 15 00:00:29,708 --> 00:00:31,086 Thank you. Thank you. 16 00:00:31,171 --> 00:00:32,109 *THE ROOKIE* Season 04 Episode 16 17 00:00:32,194 --> 00:00:33,481 Episode Title: "Real Crime" Aired on: March 13, 2022. 18 00:00:33,566 --> 00:00:35,093 Do I just...? 19 00:00:36,170 --> 00:00:37,257 You're back. 20 00:00:37,953 --> 00:00:39,126 Another crazy story... 21 00:00:39,210 --> 00:00:40,890 - How could I stay away? - Thank you. 22 00:00:41,834 --> 00:00:43,507 - You good to go? - Um, yeah. 23 00:00:43,592 --> 00:00:44,988 Where should I, uh... Where should I start? 24 00:00:45,072 --> 00:00:47,381 Why don't you, uh, tell me about Aaron Thorsen? 25 00:00:47,465 --> 00:00:50,305 Well, Aaron came to the F.T.O. program 26 00:00:50,390 --> 00:00:51,921 with the deck stacked against him. 27 00:00:52,006 --> 00:00:55,070 He had to sue the LAPD even to get into the Academy. 28 00:00:55,155 --> 00:00:57,415 I mean, you have to respect just how hard he fought 29 00:00:57,500 --> 00:00:58,898 just to be here. 30 00:00:59,019 --> 00:01:02,914 Uh, but what happened in Paris never left him, 31 00:01:02,999 --> 00:01:05,004 no matter how hard he tried to move on. 32 00:01:05,089 --> 00:01:06,809 People would argue that doing a reality show 33 00:01:06,907 --> 00:01:08,912 is the opposite of moving on. 34 00:01:08,997 --> 00:01:10,741 Well, those people haven't experienced 35 00:01:10,826 --> 00:01:12,524 what it's like to be infamous. 36 00:01:12,624 --> 00:01:16,022 I mean, Aaron was desperate to reset the way the world saw him. 37 00:01:16,146 --> 00:01:17,484 And it all blew up in his face. 38 00:01:17,569 --> 00:01:20,010 Yeah. Yeah, it really did. 39 00:01:30,530 --> 00:01:32,610 I can't believe this is happening to me again. 40 00:01:32,774 --> 00:01:33,996 It's nice to see you again. 41 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,125 Mm-hmm. 42 00:01:35,210 --> 00:01:37,281 And congratulations on the baby. 43 00:01:37,366 --> 00:01:38,445 Thank you. 44 00:01:38,530 --> 00:01:40,274 Did being pregnant make what you went through 45 00:01:40,358 --> 00:01:42,658 - with Aaron more stressful? - Not here to talk about me. 46 00:01:42,869 --> 00:01:44,437 Fair enough. Uh, let's talk about 47 00:01:44,522 --> 00:01:45,711 the reality show. 48 00:01:45,796 --> 00:01:47,733 Okay. It was his mom's idea. 49 00:01:47,926 --> 00:01:50,366 It was a way to rebrand his image. 50 00:01:50,653 --> 00:01:52,179 And what did you think of the title? 51 00:01:53,153 --> 00:01:54,375 No comment. 52 00:01:54,514 --> 00:01:55,910 Seriously, though. You have to have 53 00:01:55,995 --> 00:01:57,795 - had an opinion... - Listen, you're not gonna get me 54 00:01:57,879 --> 00:02:00,627 to say that dumb-ass title, so let's just move on. 55 00:02:27,261 --> 00:02:29,396 Yeah, so back there is my parents' room 56 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:30,593 and the family room. 57 00:02:30,678 --> 00:02:34,424 Um... Oh, right here, this is my favorite photo. 58 00:02:34,509 --> 00:02:35,948 I was 6. 59 00:02:36,070 --> 00:02:37,688 And you might recognize my dad. 60 00:02:37,773 --> 00:02:40,587 He was part of a '90s rap duo, Flex n' Flow. 61 00:02:40,678 --> 00:02:42,063 That's them right here. 62 00:02:42,148 --> 00:02:43,149 ♪ Party's never stoppin' 63 00:02:43,233 --> 00:02:43,984 ♪ Who the boys that make the noise? ♪ 64 00:02:44,069 --> 00:02:45,141 ♪ Flex n' Flow, yo, Flex n' Flow ♪ 65 00:02:45,225 --> 00:02:46,848 Yeah, man, when I was a kid, I used to love 66 00:02:46,932 --> 00:02:49,148 riding my tricycle up and down this hallway. 67 00:02:49,233 --> 00:02:51,993 Until he knocked over my Music Industry Achievement Award 68 00:02:52,078 --> 00:02:53,015 and broke it. 69 00:02:53,100 --> 00:02:55,204 Aaron tried to put it back together with Play-Doh, 70 00:02:55,289 --> 00:02:57,039 thinking we wouldn't notice. 71 00:02:57,124 --> 00:03:00,649 But that's my son, always trying to get away with something. 72 00:03:02,017 --> 00:03:03,560 Not anymore. 73 00:03:03,645 --> 00:03:06,564 I mean, now he's... very responsible. 74 00:03:08,258 --> 00:03:10,523 Over here, we got my childhood bedroom. 75 00:03:12,871 --> 00:03:15,355 What the hell? 76 00:03:15,557 --> 00:03:18,168 Hey, I never had this picture of Patrick. 77 00:03:18,311 --> 00:03:19,576 Did you put this here? 78 00:03:19,661 --> 00:03:21,546 We just thought it'd be a nice surprise. 79 00:03:21,732 --> 00:03:23,251 Man, Morris, what the hell did I tell you, man, 80 00:03:23,335 --> 00:03:24,582 about faking stuff like this? 81 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,694 Relax. Uh, not a big deal. 82 00:03:26,798 --> 00:03:28,673 We just wanted to do it for a take. 83 00:03:28,757 --> 00:03:29,587 Yeah, man, that's not cool. 84 00:03:29,671 --> 00:03:30,631 You know what? You're right. 85 00:03:30,715 --> 00:03:31,778 My bad. 86 00:03:31,936 --> 00:03:34,555 We'll... We'll do it again, but without the photo. 87 00:03:34,788 --> 00:03:36,010 Okay. 88 00:03:36,188 --> 00:03:37,848 Yeah, okay. 89 00:03:40,981 --> 00:03:42,379 Got that? 90 00:03:42,858 --> 00:03:44,819 Morris was white-hot from doing 91 00:03:44,903 --> 00:03:46,865 several award-winning documentaries in a row. 92 00:03:46,949 --> 00:03:49,094 The king of those "30 Under 30" lists. 93 00:03:49,179 --> 00:03:51,043 He had a real gift for earning people's trust, 94 00:03:51,127 --> 00:03:53,157 convincing them that he was on their side, 95 00:03:53,242 --> 00:03:55,656 that they have a say on the final cut. 96 00:03:55,740 --> 00:03:57,615 Then... surprise... They didn't. 97 00:04:00,539 --> 00:04:01,935 Hey. 98 00:04:02,082 --> 00:04:04,696 Sorry. I, uh, totally forgot this was happening today. 99 00:04:04,842 --> 00:04:05,977 We just started. 100 00:04:06,062 --> 00:04:07,642 Uh, don't forget to tell him about the, uh, 101 00:04:07,726 --> 00:04:08,719 forensics expert. 102 00:04:08,804 --> 00:04:09,756 I know. 103 00:04:09,841 --> 00:04:11,498 And the, uh... The French prosecutor. 104 00:04:11,582 --> 00:04:12,761 I sent you that interview, right? 105 00:04:12,845 --> 00:04:14,485 He was biased against Aaron from the jump. 106 00:04:15,929 --> 00:04:17,934 I'm a decade older, 107 00:04:18,019 --> 00:04:19,850 but Aaron and I had similar upbringings... 108 00:04:19,935 --> 00:04:21,853 Rich parents, private schools. 109 00:04:21,938 --> 00:04:24,247 I'm just lucky social media didn't exist. 110 00:04:24,332 --> 00:04:25,859 Look, if I was in Aaron's generation, 111 00:04:25,944 --> 00:04:28,124 I would have just as much embarrassing footage as he did. 112 00:04:28,208 --> 00:04:31,127 Of what? You studying tort reform at 15? 113 00:04:31,385 --> 00:04:33,039 I got into trouble. 114 00:04:33,249 --> 00:04:34,645 Uh-huh. Okay. 115 00:04:34,730 --> 00:04:36,844 The point is, when you grow up in this world, 116 00:04:36,929 --> 00:04:39,001 you don't hear "no" a lot, which can make you a real ass... 117 00:04:39,085 --> 00:04:40,741 Can make you a very selfish person. 118 00:04:40,928 --> 00:04:42,180 ♪ Another day 119 00:04:42,265 --> 00:04:43,878 Ooh-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo! 120 00:04:43,962 --> 00:04:45,532 Yo, they only got, like, five pairs of these 121 00:04:45,616 --> 00:04:47,317 in the whole world, and I got a pair. 122 00:04:47,401 --> 00:04:48,696 You don't have a pair, but I do. 123 00:04:48,781 --> 00:04:50,581 What's up, what's up?! 124 00:04:50,665 --> 00:04:51,594 Hey, yo, what up, everybody? 125 00:04:51,679 --> 00:04:52,875 It's your boy, AT! 126 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,415 My guy Patty P right here. 127 00:04:54,500 --> 00:04:57,390 We got a pool party tonight. Everybody come through. 128 00:04:57,475 --> 00:04:59,002 Got the matching, you know? 129 00:04:59,087 --> 00:05:00,439 Got the matching. And the shoes. 130 00:05:00,524 --> 00:05:02,287 Hey. Have fun. 131 00:05:02,372 --> 00:05:03,750 - You know what it is. - Hey! Whoa! 132 00:05:03,835 --> 00:05:05,420 You know the vibes. 133 00:05:05,692 --> 00:05:06,805 You know the vibes! 134 00:05:11,567 --> 00:05:14,012 $30,000 a bottle, 135 00:05:14,109 --> 00:05:15,438 and he didn't drink a sip. 136 00:05:15,523 --> 00:05:17,695 That boy lost his mind. 137 00:05:17,779 --> 00:05:19,392 I had to get him out of his comfort zone. 138 00:05:19,476 --> 00:05:22,040 I mean, I-I thought, you know, a semester abroad 139 00:05:22,125 --> 00:05:23,344 would've helped him mature, 140 00:05:23,429 --> 00:05:25,529 so I sent him to Paris. 141 00:05:31,676 --> 00:05:33,380 I was on scholarship. 142 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:34,827 University of Michigan. 143 00:05:34,926 --> 00:05:36,540 Go Wolverines. 144 00:05:36,624 --> 00:05:38,455 I don't know why I said that. Can I please start over? 145 00:05:38,539 --> 00:05:40,570 You're doing fine. 146 00:05:40,847 --> 00:05:42,728 Uh, when did you first meet Aaron and Patrick? 147 00:05:42,813 --> 00:05:45,200 The program held a mixer when we first arrived. 148 00:05:45,285 --> 00:05:47,618 It was mostly just a bunch of awkward college students 149 00:05:47,703 --> 00:05:48,828 butchering French, 150 00:05:48,913 --> 00:05:51,641 but Aaron and Patrick were from this whole other world. 151 00:05:51,726 --> 00:05:53,648 First impressions? 152 00:05:53,902 --> 00:05:57,781 I mean, honestly, they seemed like entitled douchebags. 153 00:05:58,025 --> 00:05:59,290 But then I got to know them. 154 00:05:59,375 --> 00:06:00,906 You know, it was like another planet... 155 00:06:00,991 --> 00:06:02,546 Planet Rich. 156 00:06:02,631 --> 00:06:03,780 Patrick was the funniest. 157 00:06:03,865 --> 00:06:05,803 All that stuff you saw on Instagram, 158 00:06:05,995 --> 00:06:07,062 no, that's not who they were. 159 00:06:07,146 --> 00:06:09,688 Yeah, I mean, we went from the Two Musketeers to Four, 160 00:06:09,773 --> 00:06:10,879 you know, just like that. 161 00:06:10,964 --> 00:06:13,046 Me, Patrick, Rowan, and Everest, 162 00:06:13,156 --> 00:06:15,897 we were, uh, inseparable. 163 00:06:16,736 --> 00:06:18,499 And uh... 164 00:06:19,110 --> 00:06:21,202 Man, that feels like so long ago. 165 00:06:21,287 --> 00:06:22,455 Are you nervous about the reunion? 166 00:06:22,539 --> 00:06:23,674 A little. 167 00:06:23,758 --> 00:06:25,671 Or a lot. 168 00:06:25,975 --> 00:06:29,284 Yeah, I mean, um, I haven't seen them since the trial. 169 00:06:29,460 --> 00:06:32,578 And they all went home, graduated from college, 170 00:06:32,663 --> 00:06:34,404 got jobs, and... 171 00:06:34,551 --> 00:06:35,734 I went to prison. 172 00:06:35,819 --> 00:06:37,042 Do they believe in your innocence? 173 00:06:37,126 --> 00:06:38,870 Yeah, 100%. 174 00:06:38,955 --> 00:06:40,003 They've both said that. 175 00:06:40,128 --> 00:06:41,430 You know, there can be a big difference 176 00:06:41,514 --> 00:06:44,084 between what people say and what they believe. 177 00:06:47,248 --> 00:06:48,248 Sorry. Let's... Hold on. 178 00:06:48,870 --> 00:06:51,092 Let me reset that. 179 00:06:51,176 --> 00:06:57,531 Sorry. 180 00:07:00,881 --> 00:07:03,103 Ro, Ro, good to see you, man! 181 00:07:03,188 --> 00:07:04,105 Yeah, you too, man. 182 00:07:04,189 --> 00:07:05,368 - Yeah. - You look so different. 183 00:07:05,452 --> 00:07:06,891 Yeah, I'm a little older. 184 00:07:06,975 --> 00:07:08,980 No, it's not that. I don't know. 185 00:07:09,064 --> 00:07:10,373 You're like a different guy. 186 00:07:10,457 --> 00:07:12,232 Something like that. 187 00:07:12,317 --> 00:07:13,595 - I think I'm gonna cry. - Hey. 188 00:07:13,702 --> 00:07:15,367 No, no, no crying. You're gonna mess up my makeup. 189 00:07:15,451 --> 00:07:16,451 Oh! 190 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:18,294 Oh, I'm sorry I didn't come sooner. 191 00:07:18,378 --> 00:07:19,808 No, d... don't worry about it, really. 192 00:07:19,892 --> 00:07:22,095 I'm just... glad to see you guys. 193 00:07:22,180 --> 00:07:24,264 Alright, so let's, uh, get inside. 194 00:07:24,349 --> 00:07:25,986 I got food, drinks... 195 00:07:26,130 --> 00:07:28,341 cameras, and, uh... 196 00:07:28,597 --> 00:07:30,599 I'm sorry. This is so weird. 197 00:07:30,689 --> 00:07:32,969 Hey, it's fine. We're just happy to see you, bro. 198 00:07:33,134 --> 00:07:34,479 - Yeah, me too. - Yeah. 199 00:07:34,564 --> 00:07:35,908 Yeah. Alright. 200 00:07:35,993 --> 00:07:37,308 Guys, I got to swap out my battery. 201 00:07:37,392 --> 00:07:38,661 Give me a second? 202 00:07:38,847 --> 00:07:40,457 Okay. 203 00:07:47,962 --> 00:07:49,220 What the hell? 204 00:07:58,935 --> 00:08:00,418 Holy... 205 00:08:00,556 --> 00:08:02,338 Morris Mackey's throat had been cut. 206 00:08:02,422 --> 00:08:03,730 By the time his body was found, 207 00:08:03,814 --> 00:08:05,776 he'd been dead approximately four hours. 208 00:08:05,860 --> 00:08:07,487 And who were your initial suspects? 209 00:08:07,571 --> 00:08:09,418 Everyone who stepped foot in the house that day. 210 00:08:09,502 --> 00:08:10,417 Including Aaron. 211 00:08:10,502 --> 00:08:11,588 Everyone. 212 00:08:11,673 --> 00:08:14,088 - Good morning. - Good morning. 213 00:08:14,299 --> 00:08:15,417 It's nice to see you again. 214 00:08:15,502 --> 00:08:16,961 Nice to see you! 215 00:08:17,045 --> 00:08:18,191 I heard you were happy with how 216 00:08:18,275 --> 00:08:19,221 the last documentary came out. 217 00:08:19,306 --> 00:08:21,835 Oh, my God. It was so good, and... and... 218 00:08:21,919 --> 00:08:24,403 And I got so many compliments. 219 00:08:24,487 --> 00:08:27,103 Oh, that's great. How about you? 220 00:08:27,394 --> 00:08:29,269 Didn't see it. Can we get started? 221 00:08:29,377 --> 00:08:30,650 Uh, yeah. 222 00:08:30,735 --> 00:08:33,064 So, tell me what happened when you arrived at the scene. 223 00:08:33,149 --> 00:08:34,628 We were the first responders. 224 00:08:41,635 --> 00:08:42,769 Whoa. 225 00:08:42,853 --> 00:08:43,770 Okay. 226 00:08:43,854 --> 00:08:45,990 It was a... frenetic day. 227 00:08:46,074 --> 00:08:50,386 So many people... so... So many personalities. 228 00:08:50,470 --> 00:08:52,823 But when you're talking a star-studded crime scene 229 00:08:52,907 --> 00:08:56,217 with a witness list comprised mostly of influencers, 230 00:08:56,301 --> 00:08:57,786 I guess that's no surprise. 231 00:08:57,879 --> 00:08:59,319 Alright, look, even with all those cameras 232 00:08:59,403 --> 00:09:01,803 and phones rolling in the house, none of them caught anything 233 00:09:02,003 --> 00:09:03,616 even remotely helpful to our investigation. 234 00:09:03,700 --> 00:09:05,139 Yeah. Luck? 235 00:09:05,223 --> 00:09:08,240 It just wasn't in our cards that day. 236 00:09:08,989 --> 00:09:10,499 What? Why are you so happy? 237 00:09:10,584 --> 00:09:12,482 I am being colorful. 238 00:09:12,567 --> 00:09:13,858 They will use more of our coverage 239 00:09:13,942 --> 00:09:15,295 if we give them evocative sound bites. 240 00:09:15,379 --> 00:09:16,688 I'm right, right? 241 00:09:16,773 --> 00:09:18,381 Can we get back to the murder? 242 00:09:18,602 --> 00:09:20,824 I followed protocols. You know, I... I called it in, 243 00:09:20,909 --> 00:09:22,566 cleared the house, did everything right. 244 00:09:22,659 --> 00:09:24,272 - Mm-hmm. - You believe me, right? 245 00:09:24,357 --> 00:09:25,535 O-Of course. 246 00:09:25,635 --> 00:09:27,475 I mean, but we have to follow protocol, too. 247 00:09:27,560 --> 00:09:28,842 It's gonna be okay. 248 00:09:28,927 --> 00:09:30,671 I can't believe this is happening to me again. 249 00:09:30,755 --> 00:09:31,646 I know. 250 00:09:33,208 --> 00:09:35,092 A-Are you okay? 251 00:09:36,036 --> 00:09:37,585 I think I'm having, like, a panic attack. 252 00:09:37,669 --> 00:09:39,435 Oh, okay. Uh, just sit down, 253 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:40,451 and I'm gonna grab you some water, okay? 254 00:09:40,536 --> 00:09:41,714 I'll be right back. 255 00:09:41,799 --> 00:09:43,412 Show's over. Time to go. 256 00:09:43,497 --> 00:09:46,155 What? Uh, no, no, no. No, it's not. 257 00:09:46,261 --> 00:09:48,491 This is my house, my production. 258 00:09:48,576 --> 00:09:49,270 The show goes on. 259 00:09:49,354 --> 00:09:50,446 Connor, keep filming. 260 00:09:50,530 --> 00:09:51,698 Yeah, that's not how this works. 261 00:09:51,782 --> 00:09:52,788 This is my crime scene. 262 00:09:52,873 --> 00:09:54,962 Shut it off now. 263 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,291 Shut it off! 264 00:09:58,711 --> 00:10:00,088 There was nothing we could do. 265 00:10:00,173 --> 00:10:01,021 Well, thanks for coming out. 266 00:10:01,105 --> 00:10:02,327 Yeah. 267 00:10:02,411 --> 00:10:04,677 Our paramedic crew was short-staffed, 268 00:10:04,761 --> 00:10:08,072 and since we're all EMT-trained, I was subbing in. 269 00:10:08,156 --> 00:10:09,116 Oh, I don't understand. 270 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,335 Why were you called in at all? 271 00:10:10,419 --> 00:10:11,989 He was clearly dead, right? 272 00:10:12,073 --> 00:10:14,383 You have no idea how many people I see look that way 273 00:10:14,467 --> 00:10:15,993 and then spring back to life. 274 00:10:16,077 --> 00:10:17,603 Oh. Interesting. 275 00:10:17,687 --> 00:10:18,909 And what did you think at the time? 276 00:10:18,993 --> 00:10:20,476 Did it seem to you like Aaron did it? 277 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:23,217 Of course not. He would never do anything like that. 278 00:10:23,301 --> 00:10:25,394 Really? And you're confident saying that... 279 00:10:25,478 --> 00:10:27,776 Considering your ex-husband? 280 00:10:28,378 --> 00:10:30,985 Wow. Okay. 281 00:10:31,385 --> 00:10:32,911 Ah, clearly, you come prepared. 282 00:10:32,996 --> 00:10:37,830 Yeah, um, I... I married a sociopath once. 283 00:10:37,973 --> 00:10:41,071 So maybe I'm not the best judge of character. 284 00:10:41,156 --> 00:10:42,791 It's not about being a good judge of character. 285 00:10:42,875 --> 00:10:44,103 We judge by the facts. 286 00:10:44,188 --> 00:10:45,501 And what did the facts say? 287 00:10:45,585 --> 00:10:47,459 At first? 288 00:10:47,597 --> 00:10:48,816 Not much. 289 00:10:50,843 --> 00:10:52,543 How long you been here filming today? 290 00:10:52,635 --> 00:10:54,157 About three or four hours. 291 00:10:54,242 --> 00:10:55,423 After rehearsal this morning, 292 00:10:55,508 --> 00:10:56,816 they had Everest and me in the kitchen, 293 00:10:56,900 --> 00:10:58,339 getting our hair and makeup done 294 00:10:58,423 --> 00:10:59,819 while they filmed other stuff. 295 00:10:59,903 --> 00:11:01,299 So you were in the kitchen the whole time? 296 00:11:01,383 --> 00:11:05,042 Uh, well, I did sneak off to crafty once or... 297 00:11:05,126 --> 00:11:06,522 four times. I heard they had ice cream, 298 00:11:06,606 --> 00:11:07,784 and I've been dieting like crazy 299 00:11:07,868 --> 00:11:09,046 'cause I was gonna be on television, 300 00:11:09,130 --> 00:11:10,569 and I heard the camera adds like 10 pounds. 301 00:11:10,653 --> 00:11:12,136 Is that true? 302 00:11:12,220 --> 00:11:13,790 So when was the last time you saw Morris? 303 00:11:13,874 --> 00:11:15,618 Honestly, I ain't seen him all day. 304 00:11:15,702 --> 00:11:16,923 I was dealing with work stuff 305 00:11:17,007 --> 00:11:18,708 right up until we started filming. 306 00:11:18,792 --> 00:11:20,753 And where were you when Morris's body was found? 307 00:11:20,837 --> 00:11:22,331 In my office. 308 00:11:22,503 --> 00:11:23,886 And how would you characterize 309 00:11:23,971 --> 00:11:26,150 Aaron's relationship with Morris? 310 00:11:28,906 --> 00:11:30,939 It's important you tell the truth. 311 00:11:32,673 --> 00:11:35,270 They didn't always agree about the direction of the show. 312 00:11:35,370 --> 00:11:37,690 But my son, he would never hurt anyone. 313 00:11:44,340 --> 00:11:47,085 Hey, do we really have to do this in here? 314 00:11:47,319 --> 00:11:48,923 Yes, we do, son. 315 00:11:50,415 --> 00:11:53,455 Per government code 3300 and per Lybarger, 316 00:11:53,587 --> 00:11:56,283 I am required to advise that you do nothave 317 00:11:56,368 --> 00:11:57,659 the right to remain silent. 318 00:11:57,744 --> 00:12:00,212 Anything you say can and will be used against you. 319 00:12:00,297 --> 00:12:03,186 Refusal to fully and completely answer 320 00:12:03,271 --> 00:12:05,885 all of Detective Lopez's questions 321 00:12:06,078 --> 00:12:08,969 will result in immediate termination. 322 00:12:09,407 --> 00:12:11,173 Do you understand? 323 00:12:12,264 --> 00:12:13,268 Yes, sir. 324 00:12:13,353 --> 00:12:14,836 And I'm here to protect you 325 00:12:14,921 --> 00:12:16,578 as your union representative. 326 00:12:16,718 --> 00:12:18,418 This is your choice. 327 00:12:18,503 --> 00:12:19,993 But like Sergeant Grey said, 328 00:12:20,157 --> 00:12:22,453 if you choose not to cooperate, you will lose your job. 329 00:12:22,538 --> 00:12:24,099 Of course I'll cooperate. 330 00:12:25,986 --> 00:12:27,274 Good man. 331 00:12:28,956 --> 00:12:30,135 Alright. 332 00:12:30,220 --> 00:12:31,682 I'll leave you to it. 333 00:12:35,291 --> 00:12:36,654 I didn't kill Morris. 334 00:12:40,766 --> 00:12:44,721 When I saw him lying there, like Patrick... 335 00:12:44,815 --> 00:12:46,123 I understand. 336 00:12:46,208 --> 00:12:47,866 But it was common knowledge that you and Morris 337 00:12:47,950 --> 00:12:49,635 weren't on the best of terms. 338 00:12:49,798 --> 00:12:52,118 Who are you with? TMZ? 339 00:12:52,327 --> 00:12:53,767 You still feeding 340 00:12:53,851 --> 00:12:54,807 - off my grief, you vultures?! - Come on, guys. 341 00:12:54,892 --> 00:12:56,051 - Morris, what are you doing, man? - Get 'em out of here, man! 342 00:12:56,135 --> 00:12:57,392 - Get out of here now! - Go! 343 00:12:57,477 --> 00:12:59,862 Yeah, what he did to Patrick's dad 344 00:12:59,947 --> 00:13:03,377 was callous and exploitative, 345 00:13:03,461 --> 00:13:05,205 but I wouldn't kill him for it. 346 00:13:05,289 --> 00:13:06,541 Yeah, that was bad. 347 00:13:06,626 --> 00:13:10,206 Aaron pulled over Patrick's dad in a routine car stop. 348 00:13:10,291 --> 00:13:12,690 It was a total random reunion, 349 00:13:12,775 --> 00:13:16,129 but Morris and his cameraman were there filming, 350 00:13:16,213 --> 00:13:18,479 and that just made everything worse. 351 00:13:18,563 --> 00:13:21,874 Dexter Hayes, he was a... A grieving father, you know? 352 00:13:21,958 --> 00:13:25,835 And he... he took a swing at Officer Thorsen, 353 00:13:25,919 --> 00:13:26,966 so we had to book him, 354 00:13:27,050 --> 00:13:29,807 but we let him go as soon as we could. 355 00:13:29,892 --> 00:13:32,291 And, you know, I thought that would be the end of it. 356 00:13:32,376 --> 00:13:33,863 But you suspected that Patrick's dad 357 00:13:33,947 --> 00:13:35,674 - could have killed Morris? - We did. 358 00:13:35,759 --> 00:13:37,994 He was furious about "Every Rose Has A..." 359 00:13:38,896 --> 00:13:40,752 About the reality show. 360 00:13:41,026 --> 00:13:44,260 And after years of the press feeding off of his grief, 361 00:13:44,548 --> 00:13:47,380 yeah, it was believable that he could've snapped. 362 00:13:47,464 --> 00:13:49,513 This is absurd. You do know that? 363 00:13:49,598 --> 00:13:51,004 Alright, sir, can you tell me where you were 364 00:13:51,088 --> 00:13:52,122 yesterday afternoon? 365 00:13:52,206 --> 00:13:54,690 I was in the office, morning to midnight. 366 00:13:54,774 --> 00:13:56,692 Ask any one of my employees. 367 00:13:56,776 --> 00:13:58,432 I didn't do this. 368 00:13:58,516 --> 00:14:00,088 Any idea who did? 369 00:14:00,322 --> 00:14:03,328 I can tell you that whoever killed that man, 370 00:14:03,413 --> 00:14:05,893 his last name is Thorsen. 371 00:14:06,554 --> 00:14:09,299 I blame myself for ever letting them into Patrick's life. 372 00:14:09,384 --> 00:14:10,649 They're a sick family. 373 00:14:10,734 --> 00:14:13,087 And Aaron is not the only killer among them. 374 00:14:13,176 --> 00:14:14,399 What did he mean by that? 375 00:14:14,483 --> 00:14:15,619 You know what he meant by that. 376 00:14:15,703 --> 00:14:18,012 And we knew from the reality show 377 00:14:18,097 --> 00:14:20,538 that Morris gave Aaron's father a clear motive. 378 00:14:20,623 --> 00:14:23,338 And that's what I was thinking for the opening theme. 379 00:14:23,423 --> 00:14:24,440 - Yeah? - Yeah. 380 00:14:24,525 --> 00:14:26,260 - I like it. - You do? 381 00:14:26,345 --> 00:14:28,244 Almost as much as I like you. 382 00:14:28,329 --> 00:14:29,620 Mm. 383 00:14:29,766 --> 00:14:31,641 You're so sweet. 384 00:14:31,811 --> 00:14:33,206 Oh. 385 00:14:33,290 --> 00:14:34,338 Hey! 386 00:14:34,422 --> 00:14:36,470 You hooking up with my wife, man?! 387 00:14:36,554 --> 00:14:37,733 Linc, it's not what you think. 388 00:14:37,817 --> 00:14:39,943 Boy, you better get the hell up out of here! 389 00:14:43,039 --> 00:14:44,466 What the hell was that?! 390 00:14:44,566 --> 00:14:46,785 Are you seriously doing this to me again?! 391 00:14:46,869 --> 00:14:48,168 In my own house! 392 00:14:48,253 --> 00:14:49,779 There's footage of Lincoln catching 393 00:14:49,863 --> 00:14:51,572 Morris and Yvonne in an intimate moment. 394 00:14:51,656 --> 00:14:53,749 That had to factor into your investigation. 395 00:14:53,918 --> 00:14:56,055 Jealousy is a primal motive. 396 00:14:56,139 --> 00:14:57,693 And some believe that Lincoln had killed 397 00:14:57,777 --> 00:14:59,114 for jealousy once before. 398 00:14:59,199 --> 00:15:01,278 He was a suspect in a 20-year-old murder, wasn't he? 399 00:15:01,362 --> 00:15:02,418 Yes, he was. 400 00:15:06,676 --> 00:15:07,934 What can you tell me about your father's 401 00:15:08,018 --> 00:15:09,511 hip-hop duo, Flex n' Flow? 402 00:15:09,596 --> 00:15:11,130 I mean, I was, like, a baby, you know, 403 00:15:11,215 --> 00:15:12,293 when they were at their height. 404 00:15:12,377 --> 00:15:15,943 And, uh, that was the year "Make Da Noise" went platinum. 405 00:15:16,028 --> 00:15:17,107 Flex n' Flow had one of the most 406 00:15:17,191 --> 00:15:18,512 iconic singles of the late '90s. 407 00:15:18,596 --> 00:15:19,904 Oh, my God. "Make Da Noise"? 408 00:15:19,988 --> 00:15:22,994 That's like one of my go-to karaoke jams. 409 00:15:23,078 --> 00:15:24,685 ♪ My crib, it's all a-poppin' ♪ 410 00:15:24,769 --> 00:15:25,841 ♪ The party's never stoppin' ♪ 411 00:15:25,925 --> 00:15:26,990 ♪ Who da boyz that make da noise? ♪ 412 00:15:27,074 --> 00:15:28,832 ♪ Flex 'n Flow, yo, Flex n' Flow ♪ 413 00:15:28,980 --> 00:15:30,270 Can I be interviewed alone? 414 00:15:32,261 --> 00:15:33,527 Yeah, we comin' for you. 415 00:15:33,611 --> 00:15:34,571 ♪ My crib, it's all a-poppin' ♪ 416 00:15:34,655 --> 00:15:35,920 ♪ This party's never stoppin' ♪ 417 00:15:36,004 --> 00:15:37,095 ♪ We're the boyz who make da noise ♪ 418 00:15:37,179 --> 00:15:38,445 ♪ Flex n' Flow, yo, Flex n' Flow ♪ 419 00:15:38,529 --> 00:15:39,881 ♪ My crib, it's all a-poppin' ♪ 420 00:15:39,965 --> 00:15:41,317 ♪ This party's never stoppin' ♪ 421 00:15:41,401 --> 00:15:42,492 ♪ We're the boyz who make da noise ♪ 422 00:15:42,576 --> 00:15:43,667 ♪ Flex n' Flow, yo, Flex n' Flow ♪ 423 00:15:43,751 --> 00:15:44,799 ♪ Flex n' Flow 424 00:15:53,983 --> 00:15:56,032 Oh, yes, that's me. 425 00:15:56,242 --> 00:15:58,639 I was a Flow Girl. 426 00:15:58,723 --> 00:16:00,467 Wait. What? 427 00:16:00,551 --> 00:16:03,339 There was a scout who saw me cheering in high school, 428 00:16:03,423 --> 00:16:05,036 and he asked me to audition. 429 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,208 At first, I thought he was just trying to get in my pants. 430 00:16:07,292 --> 00:16:12,652 But it turned out to be legit, and it was for Flex n' Flow. 431 00:16:12,737 --> 00:16:14,698 I was the biggest fan. 432 00:16:14,782 --> 00:16:16,004 What are you wearing, by the way? 433 00:16:16,088 --> 00:16:19,355 Oh, I teach capoeira on Thursdays and Sundays. 434 00:16:19,439 --> 00:16:20,530 Oh. 435 00:16:20,614 --> 00:16:22,129 Did you ever see Flex n' Flow argue 436 00:16:22,214 --> 00:16:23,349 while you were working with them? 437 00:16:23,433 --> 00:16:25,883 Mm, I mean... well, sure, 438 00:16:25,967 --> 00:16:27,488 but nothing serious. 439 00:16:27,573 --> 00:16:29,762 They were like brothers, and brothers fight. 440 00:16:29,847 --> 00:16:31,115 What do you say to the people who are convinced 441 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:32,988 that your husband killed his late partner? 442 00:16:33,121 --> 00:16:36,083 Oh, honey, this alleged "feud" between Linc and Calvin 443 00:16:36,168 --> 00:16:38,809 has gotten blown way out of proportion over the years. 444 00:16:38,893 --> 00:16:40,683 But what about the night of Calvin's murder? 445 00:16:40,768 --> 00:16:42,860 The infamous pre-release party for "2 Hype Homies"? 446 00:16:42,945 --> 00:16:45,516 Did the party get a little wild? Sure. 447 00:16:45,608 --> 00:16:47,743 Did the police come and break it up? Mm-hmm. 448 00:16:47,846 --> 00:16:50,548 And did Linc and Calvin argue? You bet. 449 00:16:50,633 --> 00:16:52,594 But they were just passionate people. 450 00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:55,750 And nobody ever threatened nobody. 451 00:16:55,886 --> 00:16:58,566 Yeah, they, uh... They threatened each other. 452 00:16:59,045 --> 00:17:00,136 I was there. 453 00:17:00,221 --> 00:17:01,791 I was a rookie officer then. 454 00:17:01,952 --> 00:17:04,653 And my T.O. and I had got a 415 call 455 00:17:04,792 --> 00:17:07,189 for an out-of-control party. 456 00:17:07,313 --> 00:17:11,102 It was a record release event for Flex n' Flow. 457 00:17:11,186 --> 00:17:13,627 But anyway, as we were breaking things up, 458 00:17:13,711 --> 00:17:15,977 I saw Flex n' Flow in each other's faces. 459 00:17:16,061 --> 00:17:17,631 Could you hear what they were fighting about? 460 00:17:17,715 --> 00:17:21,105 No. Um, as I approached, their limousine was pulling up. 461 00:17:21,190 --> 00:17:22,723 But Flex... um... 462 00:17:22,807 --> 00:17:25,339 Um, I'm sorry, Lincoln... Was still very hot. 463 00:17:25,461 --> 00:17:29,932 He refused to get into the limo with Flow, and, um... 464 00:17:30,036 --> 00:17:32,354 Yeah, he said that he'd rather walk 465 00:17:32,439 --> 00:17:34,821 than to deal with Flow's nonsense. 466 00:17:34,906 --> 00:17:36,084 Um... 467 00:17:36,168 --> 00:17:37,370 It was a good thing, too. 468 00:17:37,455 --> 00:17:40,348 A devastating loss for the music industry today, 469 00:17:40,433 --> 00:17:44,353 as Calvin Yard, one half of the popular duo Flex n' Flow, 470 00:17:44,437 --> 00:17:46,703 was gunned down in Los Angeles last night 471 00:17:46,787 --> 00:17:49,034 after leaving his record launch party. 472 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,293 It couldn't have been more than five minutes later 473 00:17:51,378 --> 00:17:53,526 that we got a shots-fired call. 474 00:17:53,611 --> 00:17:57,966 As Flow's limo was making the turn on La Cienega, 475 00:17:58,051 --> 00:18:01,361 a car pulled alongside it and unloaded 20 rounds 476 00:18:01,446 --> 00:18:02,842 at the rear of the vehicle. 477 00:18:04,364 --> 00:18:07,190 Um, Flow was shot seven times. 478 00:18:08,112 --> 00:18:10,335 Yeah. 479 00:18:10,654 --> 00:18:12,790 That was my first homicide. 480 00:18:12,913 --> 00:18:14,534 I'll never forget it. 481 00:18:14,643 --> 00:18:16,182 It changes you. 482 00:18:16,267 --> 00:18:19,823 I did not have anything to do with Calvin's death. 483 00:18:20,573 --> 00:18:22,394 But at the time of his murder, all the talk was... 484 00:18:22,478 --> 00:18:23,574 That was garbage, man. 485 00:18:23,682 --> 00:18:24,754 All garbage. 486 00:18:24,854 --> 00:18:26,168 I loved Calvin like a brother. 487 00:18:26,253 --> 00:18:27,409 You know, this... 488 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,276 This is straight-up exploitive. 489 00:18:29,361 --> 00:18:32,237 Calvin's murder was solved decades ago, and you know it. 490 00:18:32,398 --> 00:18:35,752 A man named Gary Brown was convicted of Flow's murder. 491 00:18:35,923 --> 00:18:38,320 It turns out Flow was sleeping with Gary's wife. 492 00:18:38,404 --> 00:18:41,802 So as far as the LAPD was concerned, case closed. 493 00:18:41,932 --> 00:18:44,418 Yeah, but the aura of guilt haunted Lincoln's reputation 494 00:18:44,503 --> 00:18:45,956 like a dark shroud. 495 00:18:46,412 --> 00:18:47,459 I'm sorry. 496 00:18:47,544 --> 00:18:49,120 That was really good. 497 00:18:50,081 --> 00:18:51,557 Thanks. 498 00:18:51,809 --> 00:18:53,640 And with Lincoln alibi'd out, you know, 499 00:18:53,724 --> 00:18:55,729 the investigation focused on Yvonne. 500 00:18:55,814 --> 00:18:58,207 Mrs. Thorsen, how long had you been having an affair 501 00:18:58,292 --> 00:18:59,097 with Morris Mackey? 502 00:18:59,182 --> 00:19:00,342 Please. 503 00:19:00,426 --> 00:19:01,996 I was not sleeping with him. 504 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,563 But the footage... from "Every Rose Has A Thorsen"... 505 00:19:04,647 --> 00:19:06,667 We saw it. That was for the show. 506 00:19:07,151 --> 00:19:08,852 What, are you saying you staged it? 507 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,180 It's a reality show. Of course we staged it. 508 00:19:12,264 --> 00:19:14,225 I can prove it. I have the rest of the footage. 509 00:19:14,309 --> 00:19:16,300 Boy, you better get the hell up out of here! 510 00:19:19,113 --> 00:19:20,666 What the hell was that?! 511 00:19:20,751 --> 00:19:23,017 Are you seriously doing this to me again?! 512 00:19:23,101 --> 00:19:24,018 In my own house! 513 00:19:24,102 --> 00:19:26,368 You got some nerve! 514 00:19:26,452 --> 00:19:28,196 L-Let's talk about all the women you slept with 515 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,980 when you were F-Flex? 516 00:19:30,064 --> 00:19:31,276 Cut! 517 00:19:31,980 --> 00:19:33,983 Cut, cut, cut, cut. 518 00:19:34,068 --> 00:19:37,335 Linc, buddy, you're going off-script. 519 00:19:37,419 --> 00:19:38,606 "I can't believe you're seriously 520 00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:39,816 doing this to me again"? 521 00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:41,426 That's not the line. 522 00:19:41,510 --> 00:19:42,863 Yeah, man, I was improv'ing a little. 523 00:19:42,947 --> 00:19:44,734 Yeah, maybe not do that, okay? 524 00:19:44,818 --> 00:19:46,466 It's a lot more powerful if this is the first time 525 00:19:46,550 --> 00:19:47,781 Yvonne has stepped out on you. 526 00:19:47,865 --> 00:19:49,604 Okay. So, Morris, how did I do? 527 00:19:49,867 --> 00:19:51,436 It was a bit big. 528 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,351 Yeah, maybe, uh, dial it back a hair. 529 00:19:53,435 --> 00:19:54,570 Let's go again. 530 00:19:54,839 --> 00:19:56,180 Back to one. 531 00:19:56,264 --> 00:19:57,442 Go. 532 00:19:57,526 --> 00:19:58,746 We're making a show, people. 533 00:20:00,291 --> 00:20:03,099 None of that was in the footage you turned over to us. 534 00:20:03,184 --> 00:20:04,754 Oops. My bad. 535 00:20:04,838 --> 00:20:07,061 We want everything... Now... 536 00:20:07,145 --> 00:20:09,063 Or you'll be arrested for obstruction. 537 00:20:09,362 --> 00:20:11,543 Ooh, that was good. 538 00:20:11,627 --> 00:20:13,545 Do you think I can get a copy of that? 539 00:20:13,629 --> 00:20:15,547 That will play really well in the show. 540 00:20:15,631 --> 00:20:17,245 Mrs. Thorsen, this is serious. 541 00:20:17,329 --> 00:20:19,191 Morris Mackey was murdered in your house. 542 00:20:19,276 --> 00:20:20,639 Your son is still a suspect. 543 00:20:20,723 --> 00:20:22,685 Just like the police to only focus 544 00:20:22,769 --> 00:20:24,818 on what's in front of their nose. 545 00:20:24,902 --> 00:20:27,472 Morris Mackey didn't just appear out of thin air 546 00:20:27,556 --> 00:20:28,952 when he started working for me. 547 00:20:29,036 --> 00:20:31,605 Honey, the man had enemies. 548 00:20:31,690 --> 00:20:36,699 Crowd chanting "We are Q! We are Q!"... 549 00:20:36,783 --> 00:20:38,179 They're the crazy ones! 550 00:20:38,263 --> 00:20:39,702 We're the sane ones! 551 00:20:39,786 --> 00:20:41,988 You're the cult! You're sheep! 552 00:20:42,073 --> 00:20:43,967 Prior to working with the Thorsen family, 553 00:20:44,051 --> 00:20:47,492 Morris had been hired by a bunch of QAnon conspiracy theorists. 554 00:20:47,576 --> 00:20:49,629 Apparently, they didn't like the negative publicity 555 00:20:49,714 --> 00:20:50,757 they were getting, 556 00:20:50,841 --> 00:20:52,612 and they wanted to show their side. 557 00:20:52,697 --> 00:20:54,020 Try to control the narrative. 558 00:20:54,105 --> 00:20:55,222 - Mm. - So what happened? 559 00:20:55,306 --> 00:20:57,180 Morris was allowed into the inner sanctum. 560 00:20:57,325 --> 00:20:59,983 Conducted dozens of interviews with founders and followers. 561 00:21:00,067 --> 00:21:02,029 But he didn't make a propaganda film, 562 00:21:02,113 --> 00:21:03,198 he told the truth. 563 00:21:03,283 --> 00:21:04,533 We're in a war. 564 00:21:04,617 --> 00:21:06,535 Every one of us is prepared to start killing 565 00:21:06,620 --> 00:21:07,512 for our freedom. 566 00:21:07,596 --> 00:21:08,573 Morris may have won an Emmy, 567 00:21:08,658 --> 00:21:10,449 but he also pissed off a lot of unhinged 568 00:21:10,534 --> 00:21:12,082 and hyper-violent people. 569 00:21:12,166 --> 00:21:13,692 The storm is coming. 570 00:21:13,776 --> 00:21:15,229 There will be retribution. 571 00:21:16,315 --> 00:21:17,824 I've heard rumors that you have insight into 572 00:21:17,908 --> 00:21:19,581 the QAnon angle on this case. 573 00:21:19,666 --> 00:21:22,308 Have you ever tried to put toothpaste back in the tube? 574 00:21:22,393 --> 00:21:24,777 Look, I know it's an expression, 575 00:21:24,862 --> 00:21:27,065 but have you actually tried to do it? 576 00:21:27,463 --> 00:21:28,753 I have. 577 00:21:28,971 --> 00:21:30,590 It's basically impossible. 578 00:21:30,675 --> 00:21:32,466 And what do you think Q is trying to tell people 579 00:21:32,550 --> 00:21:35,026 with his Q-Drops, these cryptic messages? 580 00:21:35,111 --> 00:21:36,667 I really wasn't trying to say anything. 581 00:21:36,752 --> 00:21:39,628 I was just typing, and maybe I got a little carried away. 582 00:21:39,713 --> 00:21:41,565 Wait. What did you say? 583 00:21:42,595 --> 00:21:46,307 Well, I guess now is as good a time as any to reveal it. 584 00:21:48,566 --> 00:21:50,089 I'm Q. 585 00:21:50,174 --> 00:21:51,570 Smitty is Q? 586 00:21:51,655 --> 00:21:52,572 I'm sorry. What? 587 00:21:52,657 --> 00:21:54,183 - Lord, give me strength. - What? 588 00:21:54,267 --> 00:21:56,751 A lot of writers use pseudonyms. 589 00:21:56,835 --> 00:21:59,292 Q is my first initial, so... 590 00:21:59,377 --> 00:22:01,409 Hey, is my name down there? 591 00:22:02,570 --> 00:22:03,870 But it was an accident? 592 00:22:03,955 --> 00:22:06,378 He... He didn't start it on purpose? 593 00:22:06,463 --> 00:22:07,511 That's what he said. 594 00:22:07,595 --> 00:22:08,991 Yeah, sounds like Smitty. 595 00:22:09,076 --> 00:22:11,124 I was trying to start the fan-fiction club 596 00:22:11,209 --> 00:22:13,737 for "This Is Us," and things just got out of hand. 597 00:22:13,939 --> 00:22:15,465 What the hell does "This is Us" fanfic 598 00:22:15,549 --> 00:22:16,682 have to do with a cult? 599 00:22:16,767 --> 00:22:19,947 I mistakenly mixed cough syrup with diet pills 600 00:22:20,032 --> 00:22:22,603 when I was writing this satanic, alien story line 601 00:22:22,687 --> 00:22:24,518 for Jack and Rebecca. 602 00:22:24,647 --> 00:22:27,349 I woke up the next morning and read it... 603 00:22:27,434 --> 00:22:28,699 None of it made sense. 604 00:22:28,844 --> 00:22:31,066 But, overnight, I'd gotten so many followers, 605 00:22:31,151 --> 00:22:32,373 I just went with it. 606 00:22:32,458 --> 00:22:35,128 You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. 607 00:22:36,387 --> 00:22:40,206 Morris had received threats from hundreds of QAnon followers, 608 00:22:40,291 --> 00:22:42,688 but when we started investigating them, 609 00:22:42,837 --> 00:22:44,737 one immediately stood out. 610 00:22:44,854 --> 00:22:46,104 Tell me about Connor Hart. 611 00:22:46,188 --> 00:22:47,584 What about him got your attention? 612 00:22:47,668 --> 00:22:50,282 Well, he was working as a cameraman on the reality show, 613 00:22:50,366 --> 00:22:52,331 so... that. 614 00:22:53,548 --> 00:22:55,432 Connor, thanks for coming down. 615 00:22:55,517 --> 00:22:57,378 I'm not in trouble, am I? 616 00:22:57,463 --> 00:23:00,151 No. We just need to clear a few things up. 617 00:23:00,390 --> 00:23:02,699 I told you everything I know. 618 00:23:02,837 --> 00:23:05,887 I was getting a battery, and he was just lying there. 619 00:23:06,175 --> 00:23:07,614 I'm not sure if you're aware, 620 00:23:07,699 --> 00:23:10,139 but it's common to run background checks on witnesses. 621 00:23:10,224 --> 00:23:12,026 And when we looked into you, we discovered 622 00:23:12,111 --> 00:23:13,289 that you're a member of QAnon. 623 00:23:13,381 --> 00:23:14,667 No, no, no, I... 624 00:23:14,752 --> 00:23:16,839 I may have gone to a political rally or two, 625 00:23:16,924 --> 00:23:18,233 but I'm really not into that. 626 00:23:18,438 --> 00:23:19,878 I swear. 627 00:23:20,014 --> 00:23:21,332 We're in a war. 628 00:23:21,416 --> 00:23:24,534 Every one of us is prepared to start killing for our freedom. 629 00:23:24,619 --> 00:23:26,102 The storm is coming. 630 00:23:26,272 --> 00:23:27,624 There will be retribution. 631 00:23:33,024 --> 00:23:35,552 So, clearly, you are a follower of Q. 632 00:23:35,637 --> 00:23:36,941 Why would you work for Morris? 633 00:23:37,065 --> 00:23:38,432 Honestly? 634 00:23:38,566 --> 00:23:40,027 I realized Morris was the best thing 635 00:23:40,112 --> 00:23:41,676 that could have happened to the movement. 636 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:42,986 That makes no sense. 637 00:23:43,071 --> 00:23:44,534 But it does. 638 00:23:44,619 --> 00:23:47,600 Morris's documentary exposed who was a true believer. 639 00:23:47,685 --> 00:23:49,237 And who wasn't. 640 00:23:49,842 --> 00:23:51,651 He never admitted it, 641 00:23:52,074 --> 00:23:54,370 but I think Morris was working for Q. 642 00:23:55,023 --> 00:23:56,811 That's why I followed him to the next gig. 643 00:23:56,896 --> 00:23:59,307 Do you still consider yourself a believer of Q? 644 00:23:59,392 --> 00:24:01,511 Well, some stuff didn't come true. 645 00:24:02,267 --> 00:24:04,316 The London bombing, the Pope's arrest, 646 00:24:04,401 --> 00:24:05,710 Zuckerberg still has a job. 647 00:24:05,795 --> 00:24:07,452 January 20th came and went, 648 00:24:07,643 --> 00:24:09,691 March 4th came and went. 649 00:24:09,877 --> 00:24:12,378 I'm starting to think Kennedy is still dead. 650 00:24:12,483 --> 00:24:13,530 Both of them. 651 00:24:13,685 --> 00:24:14,784 Mm. 652 00:24:14,869 --> 00:24:17,788 So you don't believe in Q anymore? 653 00:24:17,939 --> 00:24:19,596 Oh, I believe every word. 654 00:24:19,711 --> 00:24:21,150 Connor was, um... 655 00:24:21,235 --> 00:24:23,022 Deranged? 656 00:24:23,152 --> 00:24:25,506 Let's say... reality-challenged, 657 00:24:25,591 --> 00:24:27,291 which doesn't make him a killer. 658 00:24:27,413 --> 00:24:30,332 No. And the fact that he had a camera on his shoulder 659 00:24:30,417 --> 00:24:31,893 for the entire murder window 660 00:24:31,978 --> 00:24:34,191 means that he couldn't have killed Morris, 661 00:24:34,276 --> 00:24:36,214 so we were back to square one. 662 00:24:36,298 --> 00:24:38,042 When the QAnon lead didn't pan out, 663 00:24:38,126 --> 00:24:39,870 how did you pick up the pieces of the case? 664 00:24:39,954 --> 00:24:42,534 We rolled up our sleeves and put in the hours. 665 00:24:42,619 --> 00:24:44,183 We took on the painstaking process 666 00:24:44,268 --> 00:24:46,877 of reviewing every piece of video Morris shot 667 00:24:46,961 --> 00:24:48,357 in the weeks before he died, 668 00:24:48,441 --> 00:24:52,089 including the footage Yvonne "forgot" to give us. 669 00:24:52,174 --> 00:24:54,612 Until I found something that changed everything. 670 00:24:56,798 --> 00:24:58,042 Lopez! 671 00:24:58,861 --> 00:25:00,343 Come look at this! 672 00:25:00,433 --> 00:25:02,345 So I immediately informed Detective Lopez 673 00:25:02,431 --> 00:25:03,938 of what I discovered. Look what I just found. 674 00:25:04,022 --> 00:25:05,374 Wow. 675 00:25:05,458 --> 00:25:06,375 What? 676 00:25:06,459 --> 00:25:08,246 Look. 677 00:25:08,423 --> 00:25:10,077 Okay. 678 00:25:15,483 --> 00:25:18,097 I thought I knew everything about Patrick's murder. 679 00:25:18,321 --> 00:25:19,814 I had done my homework. 680 00:25:20,214 --> 00:25:24,564 But the truth was hiding right in front of me all this time. 681 00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:27,912 I know who killed Patrick Hayes. 682 00:25:27,997 --> 00:25:29,620 And I can prove it. I... 683 00:25:31,821 --> 00:25:33,267 Uh, someone's here. 684 00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:35,604 More to follow. 685 00:25:35,743 --> 00:25:37,231 That video was recorded 686 00:25:37,316 --> 00:25:39,338 minutes before Morris was murdered. 687 00:25:41,384 --> 00:25:42,720 I mean, Morris claiming that he knew 688 00:25:42,804 --> 00:25:44,800 who the killer was must've been energizing for you. 689 00:25:44,884 --> 00:25:46,457 Finally. A break in your roommate's murder... 690 00:25:46,541 --> 00:25:49,088 No, he... He wasn't my roommate. 691 00:25:49,252 --> 00:25:51,424 And I... I hate when people call him that... 692 00:25:51,588 --> 00:25:53,292 You know, like we found each other 693 00:25:53,377 --> 00:25:55,471 on some French Craigslist or something like that. 694 00:25:55,556 --> 00:25:56,831 Patrick was my best friend, 695 00:25:56,916 --> 00:25:58,285 from the time that we were little kids. 696 00:25:58,369 --> 00:25:59,909 I mean, I was at his house so often, 697 00:25:59,994 --> 00:26:01,738 his dad bought us two of everything, 698 00:26:01,822 --> 00:26:03,044 you know, like siblings. 699 00:26:03,128 --> 00:26:04,642 Yeah, Patrick was my brother. 700 00:26:04,727 --> 00:26:06,260 How did it feel to hear that Morris thought 701 00:26:06,344 --> 00:26:07,884 he'd discovered who killed Patrick? 702 00:26:07,969 --> 00:26:12,237 I mean, there had been so many theories over the years. 703 00:26:12,337 --> 00:26:14,916 And so many people think that they had it figured out. 704 00:26:15,001 --> 00:26:18,486 I... I just never really got my hopes up about it. 705 00:26:18,641 --> 00:26:20,342 This was different, though. I mean, he made a break 706 00:26:20,426 --> 00:26:22,003 in the case and died minutes later. 707 00:26:22,088 --> 00:26:23,384 You have to see the connection. 708 00:26:23,469 --> 00:26:27,781 Well, uh, in the words of Detective Harper... 709 00:26:28,054 --> 00:26:31,103 We look for facts, not stories. 710 00:26:31,188 --> 00:26:32,802 Yeah, sure, but, I mean, the timing... 711 00:26:32,887 --> 00:26:34,979 I mean, these murders had to be related. 712 00:26:35,064 --> 00:26:37,461 Whoever killed Patrick also killed Morris. 713 00:26:37,546 --> 00:26:38,993 Is it possible Morris found out 714 00:26:39,077 --> 00:26:40,471 that Aaron was the killer all along? 715 00:26:40,555 --> 00:26:42,256 Not a chance. The Paris police 716 00:26:42,341 --> 00:26:45,595 never had a shred of evidence against Aaron. 717 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,293 They fumbled the entire case. 718 00:26:47,378 --> 00:26:48,601 Right off the bat, the paparazzi 719 00:26:48,685 --> 00:26:50,385 completely contaminated the crime scene. 720 00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:52,388 Speaking French... 721 00:27:07,524 --> 00:27:09,573 But Aaron's DNA was all over the murder weapon. 722 00:27:09,657 --> 00:27:11,278 You mean the knife the killer pulled 723 00:27:11,363 --> 00:27:13,940 from the kitchen block on Aaron and Patrick's counter? 724 00:27:14,025 --> 00:27:16,434 What... What do you want to bet that if we went to your house, 725 00:27:16,518 --> 00:27:18,786 we'd find your DNA all over your stuff, too? 726 00:27:18,871 --> 00:27:20,597 I mean... 727 00:27:20,824 --> 00:27:22,176 Was that too mean? 728 00:27:22,261 --> 00:27:24,629 No, that actually felt good. 729 00:27:24,818 --> 00:27:26,300 It was a dumb question. 730 00:27:26,385 --> 00:27:28,128 From the beginning, the French police's case 731 00:27:28,213 --> 00:27:29,543 against Aaron seemed flawed... 732 00:27:29,628 --> 00:27:31,546 Oh, yeah. Their case was a mess... 733 00:27:31,682 --> 00:27:33,933 And their forensics were compromised. 734 00:27:34,018 --> 00:27:36,668 I mean, the theory that Aaron killed Patrick 735 00:27:36,753 --> 00:27:38,967 because he didn't do his share of the chores never made sense. 736 00:27:39,051 --> 00:27:40,863 For one thing, they had a housekeeper. 737 00:27:40,948 --> 00:27:42,432 For another, Aaron is not a psychopath, 738 00:27:42,516 --> 00:27:44,465 which you would have to be to stab your roommate 739 00:27:44,550 --> 00:27:46,183 for leaving dirty dishes in the sink. 740 00:27:46,268 --> 00:27:49,894 I mean, I've come close to stabbing him over dirty dishes, 741 00:27:49,979 --> 00:27:52,463 but that's different... We're married. 742 00:27:52,548 --> 00:27:53,621 Mm. 743 00:27:53,706 --> 00:27:54,683 What do you say to the theory 744 00:27:54,768 --> 00:27:57,090 that Aaron had a falling out with his roommate? 745 00:27:57,175 --> 00:27:59,894 Aaron and Patrick were out partying that night. 746 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,653 Does that sound like a broken friendship 747 00:28:01,738 --> 00:28:02,754 careening towards murder? 748 00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:05,302 By his own admission, Aaron was taking prescription drugs. 749 00:28:05,387 --> 00:28:08,175 Yeah. For a football injury he got in high school. 750 00:28:08,284 --> 00:28:11,421 They impair your ability to operate heavy machinery, 751 00:28:11,506 --> 00:28:14,386 not... not turn you into a hardened killer. 752 00:28:15,782 --> 00:28:17,472 Aaron passed out early. 753 00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:19,199 Woke up in the middle of the night. 754 00:28:19,284 --> 00:28:22,840 Went to pee and found Patrick's body. 755 00:28:31,385 --> 00:28:34,831 The French police took one look at a young Black man, 756 00:28:34,916 --> 00:28:36,355 and decided he was the killer. 757 00:28:36,496 --> 00:28:38,871 I mean, they didn't even pursue any other suspects. 758 00:28:38,956 --> 00:28:40,885 Bonjour, I appreciate you speaking with me. 759 00:28:40,970 --> 00:28:43,043 Your accent is terrible. 760 00:28:43,128 --> 00:28:44,438 Um, Detective, you've been accused 761 00:28:44,522 --> 00:28:46,788 of leading an incredibly biased investigation... 762 00:28:46,965 --> 00:28:48,738 Mais non. 763 00:28:48,823 --> 00:28:50,218 We followed the facts. 764 00:28:50,303 --> 00:28:52,299 Mm. And the fact that Patrick picked up 765 00:28:52,384 --> 00:28:53,780 a woman at the club that night? 766 00:28:53,864 --> 00:28:55,042 Collette Lavinge? 767 00:28:55,126 --> 00:28:57,402 She was seen leaving the apartment 768 00:28:57,487 --> 00:28:58,883 before the time of death. 769 00:28:58,968 --> 00:29:00,233 Understand? 770 00:29:00,318 --> 00:29:02,454 What about her jealous, controlling boyfriend? 771 00:29:02,610 --> 00:29:04,027 Did you interview him? 772 00:29:05,752 --> 00:29:08,323 - No. We did not. - Mm. 773 00:29:08,477 --> 00:29:10,020 But the thing that ultimately got you released 774 00:29:10,104 --> 00:29:12,718 from prison was the identification of this man. 775 00:29:12,803 --> 00:29:14,408 Yeah. Collette's boyfriend, Julien. 776 00:29:14,492 --> 00:29:16,488 Handsome. French. 777 00:29:16,573 --> 00:29:18,629 And, you know, let's just say it... 778 00:29:18,714 --> 00:29:20,240 He's super white. You know? 779 00:29:20,346 --> 00:29:21,873 Uh, what is... 780 00:29:21,958 --> 00:29:24,267 What is "Finance Bro" in French? 781 00:29:24,352 --> 00:29:26,371 Shouldn't you know that? You spent years in France. 782 00:29:26,507 --> 00:29:28,910 Yeah, but I didn't... I didn't retain it. 783 00:29:29,082 --> 00:29:32,131 It was actually a group of Internet sleuths 784 00:29:32,255 --> 00:29:33,550 who found Collette's boyfriend. 785 00:29:33,635 --> 00:29:37,215 They spent countless hours investigating Aaron's case. 786 00:29:37,398 --> 00:29:38,910 They also pointed the finger at dozens 787 00:29:38,995 --> 00:29:40,608 of innocent people, ruining their lives. 788 00:29:40,693 --> 00:29:43,230 Yes. Some members of the group took it a little too far. 789 00:29:43,454 --> 00:29:46,340 We've been looking at the Internet sleuths, actually. 790 00:29:46,425 --> 00:29:50,496 Any chance you post under the title "truecrimejunkie"? 791 00:29:51,285 --> 00:29:52,285 I... 792 00:29:53,597 --> 00:29:56,246 That... That... That doesn't s... 793 00:29:56,398 --> 00:29:58,664 I might have logged on once... Once or twice, yeah. 794 00:29:58,786 --> 00:30:00,443 Seriously? 795 00:30:00,528 --> 00:30:02,360 I mean, can you not see how people would take that 796 00:30:02,444 --> 00:30:03,840 as a clear sign of bias? 797 00:30:03,925 --> 00:30:07,758 I categorically deny any preferential treatment, okay? 798 00:30:07,843 --> 00:30:09,377 How can you say that with a straight face, 799 00:30:09,461 --> 00:30:10,944 when it was revealed that Julien was the son 800 00:30:11,028 --> 00:30:12,371 of the French Finance Minister? 801 00:30:12,456 --> 00:30:14,121 Are you telling me you didn't get a phone call asking you... 802 00:30:14,988 --> 00:30:15,992 Merci beaucoup. 803 00:30:16,076 --> 00:30:17,298 C'est terminé. 804 00:30:17,382 --> 00:30:18,621 Merci. 805 00:30:18,713 --> 00:30:20,587 Oh, come on. Don't do that. Come back. 806 00:30:20,672 --> 00:30:22,200 So, it must've been so frustrating to learn 807 00:30:22,284 --> 00:30:24,071 that the French police knew his identity 808 00:30:24,156 --> 00:30:26,644 before your first trial and didn't say anything. 809 00:30:26,729 --> 00:30:28,254 I mean, yeah. The... The good news 810 00:30:28,339 --> 00:30:31,562 was that the fact that they ignored Julien... 811 00:30:31,685 --> 00:30:33,629 Uh, it got me my retrial. 812 00:30:33,714 --> 00:30:38,666 But the bad news was the unidentified DNA on the knife... 813 00:30:38,751 --> 00:30:39,973 It... it didn't belong to Julien. 814 00:30:40,057 --> 00:30:42,193 So he... You know, he had an alibi. 815 00:30:42,278 --> 00:30:43,673 As horrible as the experience was, 816 00:30:43,758 --> 00:30:45,634 is there anything that you actually miss from that time? 817 00:30:45,718 --> 00:30:47,157 I miss? 818 00:30:47,242 --> 00:30:48,116 God, no. 819 00:30:48,271 --> 00:30:49,613 W... 820 00:30:50,267 --> 00:30:51,750 Well, Carlos. 821 00:30:51,865 --> 00:30:52,825 Carlos? 822 00:30:52,941 --> 00:30:53,771 Yeah. 823 00:30:53,949 --> 00:30:56,085 Uh, Carlos the Jackal. 824 00:30:56,170 --> 00:30:57,621 He... He was my cellmate. 825 00:30:57,706 --> 00:31:00,407 And, uh, man, pbht, he has some stories. 826 00:31:00,633 --> 00:31:02,690 So you're saying the Jackal got you through 827 00:31:02,775 --> 00:31:04,176 your year and a half of incarceration? 828 00:31:04,260 --> 00:31:05,394 No. 829 00:31:05,577 --> 00:31:06,494 My mom did. 830 00:31:06,648 --> 00:31:08,011 Yeah, I don't... 831 00:31:08,096 --> 00:31:10,201 I don't think I would have got through it without her. 832 00:31:10,285 --> 00:31:11,605 Um... 833 00:31:11,690 --> 00:31:15,349 She actually leased an apartment in Paris 834 00:31:15,434 --> 00:31:16,830 until I was released. 835 00:31:16,915 --> 00:31:19,137 And, uh, she visited me every week. 836 00:31:19,222 --> 00:31:21,011 And I'll tell you what. If they would have let her, 837 00:31:21,095 --> 00:31:22,100 she would have been over there every day. 838 00:31:22,184 --> 00:31:23,933 Of course I moved to Paris. 839 00:31:24,057 --> 00:31:25,230 I'm his mother. 840 00:31:25,315 --> 00:31:27,799 I would have served the prison time for him if I could. 841 00:31:27,884 --> 00:31:28,975 You're a close family. 842 00:31:29,060 --> 00:31:29,977 We are. 843 00:31:30,062 --> 00:31:31,501 We've been tested. 844 00:31:31,586 --> 00:31:33,243 Were you close with Patrick? 845 00:31:33,334 --> 00:31:34,425 Yes. 846 00:31:34,510 --> 00:31:35,732 I adored him. 847 00:31:35,817 --> 00:31:37,343 He was a wonderful boy. 848 00:31:37,428 --> 00:31:38,562 According to your friends, 849 00:31:38,647 --> 00:31:39,685 you thought Patrick was a troublemaker, 850 00:31:39,769 --> 00:31:40,885 and a bad influence on Aaron. 851 00:31:40,969 --> 00:31:43,191 Anyone who said that was lying. 852 00:31:43,276 --> 00:31:46,769 Yvonne... were you in Paris the day Patrick was murdered? 853 00:31:47,583 --> 00:31:50,372 Of course not. I was here in LA. 854 00:31:50,659 --> 00:31:51,924 How do you explain this footage, 855 00:31:52,009 --> 00:31:53,884 taken the day of Patrick's murder? 856 00:32:01,947 --> 00:32:03,299 Oh, hell, no. 857 00:32:03,404 --> 00:32:04,708 This interview is over. 858 00:32:04,793 --> 00:32:06,668 - Yvonne. - No. No. 859 00:32:06,752 --> 00:32:08,518 We did not okay this question. 860 00:32:08,603 --> 00:32:10,347 Who do you think you are? 861 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,362 Fired! 862 00:32:11,447 --> 00:32:12,716 I actually don't work for you. 863 00:32:12,801 --> 00:32:14,518 You need to kiss my ass. 864 00:32:15,097 --> 00:32:16,707 Did you know that your mother was in Paris 865 00:32:16,791 --> 00:32:18,245 the day that Patrick was killed? 866 00:32:18,620 --> 00:32:19,714 What? 867 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,949 No, she was... She was home in LA. 868 00:32:23,034 --> 00:32:24,636 Mm. We have footage of her shopping 869 00:32:24,721 --> 00:32:26,652 on the Champs-Elysées the night of the murder. 870 00:32:26,737 --> 00:32:28,946 Okay, well, that... That's impossible. 871 00:32:29,031 --> 00:32:30,518 Isn't this her? 872 00:32:40,270 --> 00:32:41,753 Okay. 873 00:32:42,646 --> 00:32:44,621 Officer Thorsen, come back. 874 00:32:44,706 --> 00:32:46,940 Come on. Let's finish this interview. 875 00:32:47,159 --> 00:32:48,482 Hey, there he is. 876 00:32:48,566 --> 00:32:50,418 - You lied to me. - Jimmy, get down. 877 00:32:50,503 --> 00:32:51,621 You lied to everyone. 878 00:32:51,706 --> 00:32:53,515 I didn't want all my private business out there 879 00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:55,066 for all the world to see. 880 00:32:55,151 --> 00:32:56,894 Mom, you are literally producing 881 00:32:56,979 --> 00:32:58,308 a reality show about our lives. 882 00:32:58,393 --> 00:32:59,564 That's different. 883 00:32:59,648 --> 00:33:02,269 I was on trial for murder, fighting for my life. 884 00:33:02,354 --> 00:33:03,277 Exactly. 885 00:33:03,362 --> 00:33:05,761 The fact that I was even in Paris on that night... 886 00:33:05,846 --> 00:33:07,035 How does that help you? 887 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,247 And what was your reaction 888 00:33:08,331 --> 00:33:09,341 to the revelation that Aaron's mother 889 00:33:09,425 --> 00:33:10,919 was in Paris at the time of the murder? 890 00:33:11,003 --> 00:33:12,660 Like, bombshell. Game changer. 891 00:33:12,745 --> 00:33:14,840 I mean, none of this stuff came out at the time of the trial. 892 00:33:14,924 --> 00:33:15,979 This is... 893 00:33:16,064 --> 00:33:18,332 It's so exciting, what it means for the case... 894 00:33:18,417 --> 00:33:20,455 Not for Aaron. His mom lied to him. 895 00:33:20,835 --> 00:33:23,359 Y-Yes, that... Well, that is true. 896 00:33:25,979 --> 00:33:27,479 Thanks for coming back in. 897 00:33:27,619 --> 00:33:28,809 We just need to clear something up 898 00:33:28,893 --> 00:33:30,169 about the night Patrick was killed. 899 00:33:30,253 --> 00:33:33,058 Patrick? I thought this was about Morris's murder. 900 00:33:33,143 --> 00:33:34,686 Oh, it's about both. 901 00:33:34,831 --> 00:33:38,168 See, you felt Patrick was a bad influence on your son. 902 00:33:38,252 --> 00:33:40,605 So you flew Aaron to Paris to separate them. 903 00:33:40,690 --> 00:33:42,868 Only Patrick followed Aaron there, 904 00:33:42,952 --> 00:33:45,044 so you took matters into your own hands. 905 00:33:45,128 --> 00:33:47,351 You flew to Paris, you killed Patrick. 906 00:33:47,435 --> 00:33:49,266 But somehow Morris found out, 907 00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:51,877 so to keep your deadly secret, 908 00:33:52,061 --> 00:33:53,454 you killed him too. 909 00:33:54,877 --> 00:33:58,339 Yeah, that's a fun theory... 910 00:33:58,490 --> 00:34:00,886 A good story... But you're wrong. 911 00:34:01,073 --> 00:34:02,627 Then explain why you went to Paris 912 00:34:02,711 --> 00:34:04,586 and why you kept it a secret. 913 00:34:04,670 --> 00:34:07,893 Because I was with Jean-Pierre Darby. 914 00:34:08,034 --> 00:34:09,329 Who? The footballer? 915 00:34:09,413 --> 00:34:12,724 Yes, we met a month before, at a fashion show in Milan. 916 00:34:12,808 --> 00:34:14,151 I'm... I'm sorry. 917 00:34:14,260 --> 00:34:16,598 You went to Paris for an international bootie call? 918 00:34:16,682 --> 00:34:17,686 Yes. 919 00:34:17,770 --> 00:34:19,582 And we were in bed all night. 920 00:34:19,667 --> 00:34:20,689 Ask him. 921 00:34:20,773 --> 00:34:23,198 Hell, ask the neighbors. 922 00:34:23,340 --> 00:34:25,582 They were determined to convict you. 923 00:34:25,667 --> 00:34:27,730 Had it come out that I was in town, 924 00:34:27,815 --> 00:34:29,207 they would've used it against you, 925 00:34:29,292 --> 00:34:31,878 said that we were conspiring to kill Patrick. 926 00:34:31,987 --> 00:34:35,167 Coming clean would've only hurt your case, made it worse. 927 00:34:35,276 --> 00:34:37,315 Yeah, you know what? I forgot how good you are at that. 928 00:34:37,399 --> 00:34:38,480 At what? 929 00:34:38,565 --> 00:34:40,317 At justifying yourself. 930 00:34:40,401 --> 00:34:43,386 You lied in a murder trial, you cheated on your husband, 931 00:34:43,471 --> 00:34:45,409 and now you're the hero, right? 932 00:34:45,493 --> 00:34:46,802 Yeah. Sure, Mom. 933 00:34:46,986 --> 00:34:48,206 We'll go with that. 934 00:34:53,370 --> 00:34:54,852 You accused Aaron's mother of the murder. 935 00:34:54,936 --> 00:34:56,768 With almost no evidence to back it up. 936 00:34:56,852 --> 00:34:58,207 I... I did. 937 00:34:58,292 --> 00:35:01,338 And, uh, in my defense, 938 00:35:01,422 --> 00:35:03,471 I'd been scrubbing reality show footage 939 00:35:03,555 --> 00:35:05,342 for over 200 hours at that point. 940 00:35:05,426 --> 00:35:06,952 So who broke the case? 941 00:35:07,036 --> 00:35:08,566 Oh, that was Detective Lopez. 942 00:35:08,651 --> 00:35:10,521 My wife is a badass. 943 00:35:10,605 --> 00:35:12,254 We knew the murders were connected. 944 00:35:12,339 --> 00:35:13,980 And we knew that Patrick's murder in Paris 945 00:35:14,065 --> 00:35:15,543 was never properly investigated. 946 00:35:15,628 --> 00:35:17,572 So I dug back into that case. 947 00:35:17,656 --> 00:35:19,925 Right now I'm just trying to build a timeline, 948 00:35:20,010 --> 00:35:22,315 getting to know more about Patrick's life. 949 00:35:22,399 --> 00:35:24,492 What did the four of you do that last month? 950 00:35:24,576 --> 00:35:26,121 No detail is too small. 951 00:35:26,206 --> 00:35:27,886 Um... 952 00:35:28,221 --> 00:35:30,346 Let's ask my brain. 953 00:35:30,669 --> 00:35:32,956 I can tell you one thing that we definitely didn't do. 954 00:35:33,096 --> 00:35:34,153 Go to class. 955 00:35:34,237 --> 00:35:36,387 I mean, Aaron's parents let him borrow their private jet 956 00:35:36,471 --> 00:35:39,628 anytime he wanted, so we went all around Europe. 957 00:35:40,081 --> 00:35:41,170 I mean, Italy. 958 00:35:41,255 --> 00:35:42,255 Greece. 959 00:35:42,347 --> 00:35:43,090 French Riviera. 960 00:35:44,219 --> 00:35:44,962 Can I see? 961 00:35:45,046 --> 00:35:46,398 Yeah. 962 00:35:46,482 --> 00:35:48,095 I thought... Screw school, 963 00:35:48,179 --> 00:35:50,183 when am I ever gonna get to visit planet rich again, right? 964 00:35:50,267 --> 00:35:52,667 So, Santorini for the weekend? 965 00:35:52,842 --> 00:35:53,933 Yes, please. 966 00:35:54,018 --> 00:35:55,979 These photos of you guys on the tarmac, 967 00:35:56,221 --> 00:35:57,737 you always have so much luggage. 968 00:35:57,822 --> 00:35:59,044 I know. 969 00:35:59,129 --> 00:36:01,525 Rowan always acted like it was the Oregon Trail. 970 00:36:01,610 --> 00:36:03,137 Why? Every time I've seen him, 971 00:36:03,222 --> 00:36:05,009 he was wearing a golf tee and jeans. 972 00:36:05,094 --> 00:36:06,446 Not exactly a clotheshorse. 973 00:36:06,531 --> 00:36:08,487 Oh, uh... 974 00:36:08,949 --> 00:36:10,084 True. 975 00:36:10,169 --> 00:36:11,695 I wonder what was in there. 976 00:36:11,780 --> 00:36:13,872 Did you ever see Rowan with drugs back then? 977 00:36:13,957 --> 00:36:15,469 I mean... yeah. 978 00:36:15,554 --> 00:36:17,255 He was always kind of "the life of the party," 979 00:36:17,339 --> 00:36:18,343 if you know what I mean. 980 00:36:18,427 --> 00:36:19,940 - Why? - Before Paris, 981 00:36:20,025 --> 00:36:22,542 Rowan's family in Iowa was in financial trouble. 982 00:36:22,627 --> 00:36:23,847 He almost dropped out of school. 983 00:36:23,931 --> 00:36:26,567 Now he lives in Brentwood and drives a Porsche. 984 00:36:26,652 --> 00:36:27,776 I guess? 985 00:36:27,861 --> 00:36:30,476 I... I see you're very excited, 986 00:36:30,561 --> 00:36:33,189 and I love that... I... I'm not really following. 987 00:36:33,274 --> 00:36:34,278 I... 988 00:36:35,346 --> 00:36:36,714 Hey, Nolan. 989 00:36:36,822 --> 00:36:38,043 Where's Rowan? 990 00:36:38,341 --> 00:36:39,780 Uh, he just left. 991 00:36:39,865 --> 00:36:41,090 Why? I thought you were done with him? 992 00:36:41,174 --> 00:36:43,956 I was... until I realized he's the one who killed Patrick. 993 00:36:44,924 --> 00:36:46,846 Alright. Here we go. Here we go. 994 00:36:46,969 --> 00:36:48,509 Nice, nice. 995 00:36:48,923 --> 00:36:50,014 Bro, it's been crazy. 996 00:36:50,099 --> 00:36:51,426 I've added like half a million followers 997 00:36:51,510 --> 00:36:52,681 from all the publicity. 998 00:36:52,766 --> 00:36:55,206 What? You think, uh... You think, uh, Aaron did it? 999 00:36:55,492 --> 00:36:56,648 Pbht. Of course he did. 1000 00:36:56,733 --> 00:36:58,172 The guy's a total psycho. 1001 00:36:58,256 --> 00:37:00,009 Okay, watch this... 1002 00:37:03,580 --> 00:37:05,353 Aw. Fudge. 1003 00:37:05,437 --> 00:37:06,354 Hold on, I'm gonna do it again... 1004 00:37:06,438 --> 00:37:07,838 Okay, okay. 1005 00:37:07,993 --> 00:37:10,056 - Rowan. - What the hell? 1006 00:37:10,141 --> 00:37:11,493 We got a warrant for your arrest. 1007 00:37:11,578 --> 00:37:12,451 What? 1008 00:37:12,536 --> 00:37:14,280 For what? 1009 00:37:14,365 --> 00:37:17,060 For the murders of Patrick Hayes and Morris Mackey. 1010 00:37:17,145 --> 00:37:18,401 Oh, snap. 1011 00:37:18,486 --> 00:37:19,588 That's crazy. 1012 00:37:19,673 --> 00:37:20,674 And wrong. 1013 00:37:20,759 --> 00:37:22,720 I didn't... Why would you even think that? 1014 00:37:22,805 --> 00:37:24,376 Because Patrick found out you were smuggling drugs 1015 00:37:24,460 --> 00:37:26,813 in Aaron's private jet, and threatened to tell the police. 1016 00:37:26,898 --> 00:37:29,077 Somehow Morris found out that you killed Patrick 1017 00:37:29,162 --> 00:37:31,385 to protect your secret, so you killed him too. 1018 00:37:31,470 --> 00:37:32,648 Come on. That's... I mean... 1019 00:37:32,733 --> 00:37:33,737 That's so... so wrong... 1020 00:37:33,822 --> 00:37:35,261 - Hey! Rowan! - Rowan! 1021 00:37:37,556 --> 00:37:38,778 - Okay. - Bro, wait. 1022 00:37:42,083 --> 00:37:43,693 - Oh. - Oh, snap. 1023 00:37:47,452 --> 00:37:49,022 You okay? 1024 00:37:49,107 --> 00:37:50,590 Alright, you're fine. 1025 00:37:50,675 --> 00:37:52,114 Stand up. 1026 00:37:52,273 --> 00:37:53,800 Put it down. You're under arrest. 1027 00:37:54,033 --> 00:37:56,607 Rowan always had these crazy plans. 1028 00:37:56,692 --> 00:37:58,741 You know, "Let's go to Morocco," 1029 00:37:58,826 --> 00:38:01,701 or, "Dude, I heard about this sick party in Ibiza..." 1030 00:38:01,786 --> 00:38:06,037 And I... I... I never thought about it, 1031 00:38:06,209 --> 00:38:09,912 but he was the one who decided where we were flying to always. 1032 00:38:10,067 --> 00:38:12,333 And, you know, now, looking back at it, 1033 00:38:12,425 --> 00:38:16,185 with "cop eyes," I mean, it is so obvious 1034 00:38:16,406 --> 00:38:18,193 that Rowan was up to something. 1035 00:38:19,424 --> 00:38:20,730 I just could never see it. 1036 00:38:22,507 --> 00:38:24,857 I mean, Patrick did, though. 1037 00:38:26,006 --> 00:38:29,530 But, like, why... why... Why didn't he tell me, you know? 1038 00:38:29,615 --> 00:38:32,008 We talked about everything... You know, why wouldn't he... 1039 00:38:32,093 --> 00:38:33,573 Why wouldn't he tell me about this? 1040 00:38:35,523 --> 00:38:37,039 You know, if he had... 1041 00:38:40,123 --> 00:38:41,693 Everything... 1042 00:38:41,855 --> 00:38:43,512 Everything would've been so different. 1043 00:38:51,375 --> 00:38:52,515 Aaron. 1044 00:38:58,210 --> 00:39:00,128 Is it true? 1045 00:39:00,213 --> 00:39:02,148 Yes, sir. 1046 00:39:02,765 --> 00:39:05,437 Rowan Clauson confessed to murdering Patrick. 1047 00:39:08,806 --> 00:39:10,578 I'm so sorry I didn't believe you. 1048 00:39:12,974 --> 00:39:14,664 Can you ever forgive me? 1049 00:39:17,088 --> 00:39:18,263 Of course. 1050 00:39:20,330 --> 00:39:23,162 ♪ Say you'll be there for me 1051 00:39:23,402 --> 00:39:26,756 After all this time, the case of who killed Patrick Hayes 1052 00:39:26,841 --> 00:39:28,411 was finally solved. 1053 00:39:28,496 --> 00:39:30,457 But the question that lingers is... 1054 00:39:30,542 --> 00:39:33,797 Is whether the emotional wounds will heal... 1055 00:39:33,882 --> 00:39:36,759 - ♪ When I need you - Feels gross, right? 1056 00:39:36,851 --> 00:39:39,077 - ♪ I need you - Yeah. 1057 00:39:40,295 --> 00:39:41,921 ♪ Say you'll be there 1058 00:39:42,006 --> 00:39:44,601 - Two people were dead. - ♪ ...for an answer that I... 1059 00:39:44,702 --> 00:39:47,233 Even after you catch the guy, it's still just... 1060 00:39:47,318 --> 00:39:48,514 - ♪ Look down and see - awefull. 1061 00:39:48,598 --> 00:39:51,872 - ♪ The body I can barely breathe in ♪ - I'm just glad the truth finally came out. 1062 00:39:52,058 --> 00:39:55,977 Aaron's innocence is now proven without a doubt. 1063 00:39:56,254 --> 00:39:58,825 He deserves to move on with the rest of his life. 1064 00:39:58,910 --> 00:40:01,125 And we'll be here to help him do that. 1065 00:40:01,395 --> 00:40:02,835 And now that it's over, 1066 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,359 what's your view of Aaron Thorsen? 1067 00:40:04,457 --> 00:40:05,711 Ah. 1068 00:40:05,796 --> 00:40:09,667 I will admit, it took a minute for Aaron to win me over. 1069 00:40:09,752 --> 00:40:12,461 But once he did, I knew he'd be a good cop. 1070 00:40:12,546 --> 00:40:14,375 - ♪ I need your help - Alright, I'm done. 1071 00:40:14,460 --> 00:40:15,758 Uh, wait. 1072 00:40:15,843 --> 00:40:19,508 This is not gonna air before his training is done, right? 1073 00:40:19,633 --> 00:40:21,725 'Cause I gotta... I gotta keep him hungry. 1074 00:40:21,810 --> 00:40:25,121 I never once stopped believing in my boy. 1075 00:40:25,206 --> 00:40:27,385 Has he forgiven you for the lie? 1076 00:40:27,470 --> 00:40:28,930 He will. 1077 00:40:29,018 --> 00:40:31,414 There's nothing our family can't get through. 1078 00:40:31,499 --> 00:40:33,256 It looks like Aaron will finally be able 1079 00:40:33,341 --> 00:40:34,445 to put all this behind him. 1080 00:40:34,530 --> 00:40:36,753 That's... That's not really how it works. 1081 00:40:36,915 --> 00:40:40,269 I mean, as someone who has had friends killed, 1082 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,670 you never really get closure. 1083 00:40:42,755 --> 00:40:46,336 All you can hope for is that the memories of them... 1084 00:40:46,421 --> 00:40:49,296 The... the good times you had together... 1085 00:40:49,381 --> 00:40:51,453 Are what you see when you think of them. 1086 00:40:51,538 --> 00:40:53,580 How does it feel, having the truth come out 1087 00:40:53,665 --> 00:40:54,800 after all these years? 1088 00:40:54,884 --> 00:40:56,584 ♪ ...when I need you to 1089 00:40:56,668 --> 00:40:58,717 I-I... I don't know. 1090 00:40:58,801 --> 00:41:00,305 It's... It's still sinking in. 1091 00:41:00,390 --> 00:41:02,327 This is obviously gonna make compelling episodes 1092 00:41:02,412 --> 00:41:03,111 of your reality show. 1093 00:41:03,196 --> 00:41:04,594 Oh, no. That... 1094 00:41:04,795 --> 00:41:07,725 "Every Rose Has A Thorsen" is not moving forward. 1095 00:41:07,810 --> 00:41:10,118 I mean, it was... It was a mistake to do 1096 00:41:10,203 --> 00:41:11,656 in the first place, yeah. 1097 00:41:11,741 --> 00:41:13,820 I mean, the only reason why I did agree to it 1098 00:41:13,936 --> 00:41:16,133 was to rehabilitate my image. 1099 00:41:16,228 --> 00:41:21,236 Um, but ironically it ended up doing something even better... 1100 00:41:21,321 --> 00:41:23,531 Which was uncover the truth. 1101 00:41:23,694 --> 00:41:25,219 So what are you gonna do now? 1102 00:41:25,304 --> 00:41:28,195 ♪ You reach out and say what I need to hear ♪ 1103 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,969 ♪ Might be dark right now ♪ 1104 00:41:31,053 --> 00:41:34,013 - ♪ But the light is near ♪ - Live. 1105 00:41:34,097 --> 00:41:36,250 - ♪ And I know that you... - For myself. 1106 00:41:36,335 --> 00:41:39,234 ♪ ...will always be here Mm-hmm. 1107 00:41:39,318 --> 00:41:40,518 Subtitles Synchronized by srjanapala 80953

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