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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:04:19,958 --> 00:04:24,000 The endlessly fertile black earth. 2 00:04:24,041 --> 00:04:27,333 For centuries, Ukraine'’s blessing. 3 00:04:27,375 --> 00:04:31,083 But also its curse. 4 00:04:35,250 --> 00:04:38,708 From East to West, the invaders came. 5 00:04:38,750 --> 00:04:41,625 First, the Mongols, 6 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,500 then the Poles. 7 00:04:50,041 --> 00:04:52,458 Then the Turks. 8 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:55,958 Then the Russians. 9 00:05:01,583 --> 00:05:04,583 Hungry for grain, hungry for bread, 10 00:05:04,625 --> 00:05:09,500 the invaders conquered the land and reaped its harvest. 11 00:05:10,750 --> 00:05:16,125 Empire after empire stained the earth with blood and ash. 12 00:05:24,458 --> 00:05:27,208 It's not an accident that the Ukrainian national anthem 13 00:05:27,250 --> 00:05:30,416 the first line is "“Ukraine has not yet died."” 14 00:05:32,416 --> 00:05:35,583 Your country is living on the edge, 15 00:05:35,625 --> 00:05:37,916 if that's how you celebrate your existence. 16 00:05:37,958 --> 00:05:40,208 We're still here! We're not dead quite yet! 17 00:05:40,250 --> 00:05:41,875 I remember, 18 00:05:41,916 --> 00:05:45,125 my grandmother was from central Russian-ruled Ukraine. 19 00:05:45,375 --> 00:05:48,666 My grandfather was from western Polish-ruled Ukraine. 20 00:05:48,708 --> 00:05:51,000 She was Orthodox, he was Catholic. 21 00:05:51,041 --> 00:05:53,708 and one of the most intense debates, 22 00:05:53,750 --> 00:05:57,583 which raged almost daily around their kitchen table was: 23 00:05:57,625 --> 00:06:00,125 "“Who repressed us more?"” 24 00:06:01,541 --> 00:06:04,541 In 1932 and 1933, 25 00:06:04,583 --> 00:06:08,333 Stalin starved to death millions of Ukrainian farmers 26 00:06:08,375 --> 00:06:11,958 to crush the country'’s dream of independence. 27 00:06:16,291 --> 00:06:19,458 Millions more were killed during World War II 28 00:06:19,500 --> 00:06:22,500 in the Nazi-Soviet battles over Ukraine. 29 00:06:23,083 --> 00:06:24,375 Just like Stalin, 30 00:06:24,416 --> 00:06:25,958 Hitler thought Ukraine was a kind of breadbasket 31 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:27,875 that he needed for an empire. 32 00:06:32,125 --> 00:06:34,041 The Soviet Union starts when Russia and Ukraine 33 00:06:34,083 --> 00:06:34,833 are brought together, 34 00:06:34,875 --> 00:06:35,875 and the Soviet Union ends 35 00:06:35,916 --> 00:06:38,875 when Russia and Ukraine come apart. 36 00:08:04,125 --> 00:08:06,041 Newly independent Ukraine 37 00:08:06,083 --> 00:08:11,458 was a country still ruled by its communist era bosses. 38 00:08:11,833 --> 00:08:14,125 They didn't call themselves communists anymore, 39 00:08:14,166 --> 00:08:17,666 but they were still in charge. 40 00:10:19,750 --> 00:10:27,458 The Orange Revolution was very brave and very promising. 41 00:10:28,333 --> 00:10:31,458 What happened next is incredibly disillusioning 42 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:33,208 and very sad. 43 00:10:33,250 --> 00:10:36,208 The government they want comes to power 44 00:10:36,250 --> 00:10:41,708 and it does so badly at actually running the country 45 00:10:41,750 --> 00:10:43,208 that Yanukovych, 46 00:10:43,250 --> 00:10:47,125 who had failed to become president fraudulently, 47 00:10:47,166 --> 00:10:50,750 is then elected as President of Ukraine. 48 00:11:05,791 --> 00:11:07,750 A last minute about turning Ukraine 49 00:11:07,791 --> 00:11:10,000 has seen the government suspend a trade pact with 50 00:11:10,041 --> 00:11:13,833 the European Union just a week before it was set to be signed. 51 00:11:13,875 --> 00:11:15,833 The government has now issued an order 52 00:11:15,875 --> 00:11:18,083 calling off parliamentary votes on the deal 53 00:11:18,125 --> 00:11:20,750 saying it will renew active dialogue with Russia. 54 00:11:20,791 --> 00:11:22,666 Ukrainian President Victor Yanukovych 55 00:11:22,708 --> 00:11:24,291 refused to sign the deal 56 00:11:24,333 --> 00:11:26,541 despite last-ditch efforts by European leaders 57 00:11:26,583 --> 00:11:28,583 to persuade him overnight. 58 00:11:28,625 --> 00:11:31,041 That'’s prompted anger. 59 00:13:45,041 --> 00:13:46,750 I live not far away from here. 60 00:13:46,791 --> 00:13:50,250 So, I was able actually to come to Maidan three times a day. 61 00:13:50,291 --> 00:13:51,416 Sometimes two times a day. 62 00:13:51,458 --> 00:13:54,166 Sometimes stay some hours in the night. 63 00:13:54,208 --> 00:13:56,833 I liked especially the fact that students 64 00:13:56,875 --> 00:13:59,541 wanted to have a nonpolitical protest. 65 00:13:59,583 --> 00:14:01,500 Then I became very optimistic 66 00:14:01,541 --> 00:14:06,250 thinking it's much easier to put a small country in order 67 00:14:06,291 --> 00:14:08,625 than a huge country in order. 68 00:15:56,625 --> 00:15:58,708 Those who tried to save themselves 69 00:15:58,750 --> 00:16:02,083 were caught, thrown to the ground and beaten with sticks. 70 00:16:03,625 --> 00:16:08,000 Some of the protesters escaped towards St. Michael'’s Square. 71 00:16:10,208 --> 00:16:13,708 A monk invited them to take refuge in the monastery. 72 00:16:13,750 --> 00:16:17,041 They barricaded the door from within. 73 00:16:24,333 --> 00:16:26,791 The young people taking refuge in the monastery say 74 00:16:26,833 --> 00:16:28,958 they do not intend to go home. 75 00:16:29,958 --> 00:16:34,958 After this morning, they'’re no longer afraid of anything. 76 00:17:57,791 --> 00:18:02,541 They felt physically dutied 77 00:18:02,583 --> 00:18:05,250 living in Yanukovych's Ukraine. 78 00:18:05,291 --> 00:18:08,208 You couldn't live an honorable life. 79 00:18:08,250 --> 00:18:11,625 Paying bribes, accepting bribes. 80 00:18:11,666 --> 00:18:13,666 You had to be corrupt. 81 00:18:13,708 --> 00:18:16,125 Especially for this younger generation. 82 00:18:16,166 --> 00:18:17,625 People who came at the age 83 00:18:17,666 --> 00:18:19,250 after the Soviet Union had collapsed. 84 00:18:19,291 --> 00:18:20,916 People who knew the West, 85 00:18:20,958 --> 00:18:23,333 they knew you didn't have to live like that. 86 00:18:23,375 --> 00:18:27,541 And a lot of this was: "“I will not live this way. 87 00:18:27,583 --> 00:18:29,958 I refuse to live this way."” 88 00:20:35,041 --> 00:20:39,000 When you have a revolution, whether peaceful or violent, 89 00:20:39,041 --> 00:20:40,541 you have of course 90 00:20:40,583 --> 00:20:43,500 destruction of so called peaceful rhythm of life, 91 00:20:43,541 --> 00:20:45,666 because you don't know what to expect next. 92 00:20:45,708 --> 00:20:48,083 You don't know how the protest will finish, 93 00:20:48,125 --> 00:20:50,750 and you don't know whether it is dangerous or not 94 00:20:50,791 --> 00:20:52,250 to be next to the protest. 95 00:27:52,041 --> 00:27:54,416 Tetyana Chornovol told police her car was stopped 96 00:27:54,458 --> 00:27:57,166 by a gang of men near Kyiv just after midnight. 97 00:27:57,208 --> 00:27:58,666 She was dragged from the vehicle, 98 00:27:58,708 --> 00:28:00,208 assaulted and left in a ditch. 99 00:28:00,250 --> 00:28:03,083 She suffered a broken nose, concussion and numerous bruises. 100 00:28:03,125 --> 00:28:04,583 The reporter had just published an article 101 00:28:04,625 --> 00:28:08,000 on the personal wealth of Ukraine'’s interior minister. 102 00:29:00,875 --> 00:29:02,791 Ukrainian members of parliament on Thursday 103 00:29:02,833 --> 00:29:04,333 voted for a draft law 104 00:29:04,375 --> 00:29:06,125 that threatens fundamental freedoms 105 00:29:06,166 --> 00:29:08,083 including the right to assembly. 106 00:29:08,125 --> 00:29:11,291 Opposition members tried to block the vote but failed. 107 00:32:01,333 --> 00:32:03,583 The main two things which shocked me 108 00:32:03,625 --> 00:32:07,250 that at some point, people lost sense of humor on Maidan. 109 00:32:07,291 --> 00:32:11,833 And almost next day they lost fear of death. 110 00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:24,666 This is still something which puzzles me 111 00:32:24,708 --> 00:32:28,791 because I cannot decipher the psychological instruments 112 00:32:29,416 --> 00:32:32,458 which force people to forget about security, safety, 113 00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:34,041 about their personal life, 114 00:32:34,083 --> 00:32:38,375 personal obligations to their families and to the closed ones, 115 00:32:38,416 --> 00:32:43,291 and how they become ready to die for their country 116 00:32:43,333 --> 00:32:45,791 which was always corrupt. 117 00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:31,291 The BBC can'’t independently verify this footage 118 00:37:31,333 --> 00:37:33,791 but video has emerged which appears to show 119 00:37:33,833 --> 00:37:35,958 president Yanukovych's entourage 120 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,958 fleeing from his luxurious mansion outside Kyiv... 121 00:38:15,041 --> 00:38:18,208 This afternoon crowds of curious Ukrainians 122 00:38:18,250 --> 00:38:20,875 streamed into Yanukovych'’s sprawling compound. 123 00:38:20,916 --> 00:38:22,666 It'’s a huge estate. I mean, 124 00:38:22,708 --> 00:38:25,500 they say it'’s half the size of Monaco, 125 00:38:25,541 --> 00:38:28,208 costs millions of Euros in making. 126 00:38:28,250 --> 00:38:30,416 A lot of protesters are very unhappy 127 00:38:30,458 --> 00:38:32,458 that Yanukovych had such a place to live 128 00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:34,791 given that living standards in this country are so low 129 00:38:34,833 --> 00:38:38,166 that average monthly salary is around 300 Euros. 130 00:38:38,208 --> 00:38:40,666 What was the level of Yanukovych'’s corruption? 131 00:38:40,708 --> 00:38:43,583 it'’s hard to compare in hard numbers how Yanukovych 132 00:38:43,625 --> 00:38:45,208 ranks to his predecessors, 133 00:38:45,250 --> 00:38:48,916 but Yanukovych seems to have been in a class by himself. 134 00:38:48,958 --> 00:38:50,833 I've seen one account that suggests 135 00:38:50,875 --> 00:38:54,500 in four years he stole perhaps ten billion dollars. 136 00:39:52,875 --> 00:39:55,083 There was never anything quite like the Maidan. 137 00:39:55,125 --> 00:39:56,833 There was never a revolutionary movement 138 00:39:56,875 --> 00:39:59,833 on behalf of unified Europe before. 139 00:39:59,875 --> 00:40:03,250 People never died in the name of a united Europe. 140 00:40:03,291 --> 00:40:05,541 Before that never happened. 141 00:40:05,583 --> 00:40:09,000 There's never been a movement this far East in Europe 142 00:40:09,041 --> 00:40:12,208 which was chiefly about the rule of law. 143 00:40:31,916 --> 00:40:35,333 America is officially calling a "“Russian invasion of Ukraine."” 144 00:40:35,375 --> 00:40:37,958 "“This is a Russian invasion."” The US says. 145 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,166 There is no doubt these are Russian forces 146 00:40:40,208 --> 00:40:43,291 roaming the roads here in Ukraine'’s Crimea. 147 00:40:47,208 --> 00:40:50,750 There was an opportunity that I think Putin saw 148 00:40:50,791 --> 00:40:52,541 given what was going on in Kyiv, 149 00:40:52,583 --> 00:40:56,041 to basically return Crimea to Russian control. 150 00:41:02,041 --> 00:41:04,791 A few days after Yanukovych fled Kyiv, 151 00:41:04,833 --> 00:41:06,833 we saw the appearance of what the Ukrainians called 152 00:41:06,875 --> 00:41:08,958 "“little green men." 153 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,708 Combat soldiers who, when you watch them on television, 154 00:41:12,750 --> 00:41:15,041 by the way they handled their weapons, 155 00:41:15,083 --> 00:41:17,625 they were clearly professional soldiers. 156 00:41:17,666 --> 00:41:19,708 Very well-trained professional soldiers. 157 00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:23,208 They were in Russian combat uniform, but no insignia. 158 00:41:58,625 --> 00:42:02,791 The military invasion of Russia to Ukrainian Crimea 159 00:42:02,833 --> 00:42:04,583 was absolutely predictable. 160 00:42:04,625 --> 00:42:08,291 Putin started to think about the annexation of Crimea 161 00:42:08,333 --> 00:42:11,375 immediately after the war with Georgia in 2008. 162 00:42:11,416 --> 00:42:14,666 And Vladimir Putin knew for sure the West 163 00:42:14,708 --> 00:42:18,458 would not be intervening in the military sense 164 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:21,458 to this situation in Crimea in Ukraine. 165 00:42:24,083 --> 00:42:26,583 What you've seen in terms of Russian action 166 00:42:26,625 --> 00:42:27,583 is really egregious. 167 00:42:27,625 --> 00:42:28,916 It's a land grab. 168 00:42:28,958 --> 00:42:30,833 You can't find any other instance 169 00:42:30,875 --> 00:42:34,416 where a European state has used military force 170 00:42:34,458 --> 00:42:37,458 basically to change borders and take territory 171 00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:39,208 from another country. 172 00:43:23,666 --> 00:43:26,833 For Vladimir Putin annexation of Crimea 173 00:43:26,875 --> 00:43:29,375 was to give more energy to this myth 174 00:43:29,416 --> 00:43:33,291 that Ukraine and Russia are the same nation. 175 00:43:33,333 --> 00:43:35,708 And he thought it would be only beginning, 176 00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:37,958 because he planned annex not only Crimea. 177 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,125 He really thinks that Ukraine doesn't exist. 178 00:43:42,750 --> 00:43:47,208 Having so effortlessly gobbled up Crimea, 179 00:43:47,250 --> 00:43:49,958 it'’s very easy to see 180 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,583 that Putin at that point was encouraged to keep going. 181 00:43:52,625 --> 00:43:57,375 There's a Russian saying: "“the eating increases the appetite."” 182 00:43:57,416 --> 00:44:00,000 And I think it applies very much to Putin. 183 00:44:02,541 --> 00:44:04,916 Reuters has reported eyewitness accounts 184 00:44:04,958 --> 00:44:08,250 of the appearance of Russian army troops without insignia 185 00:44:08,291 --> 00:44:09,416 in East Ukraine. 186 00:44:09,458 --> 00:44:11,250 After a firefight near the Russian border 187 00:44:11,291 --> 00:44:13,500 of the Ukrainian city of Kramatorsk, 188 00:44:13,541 --> 00:44:17,458 pro-Russian militants seized the police headquarters. 189 00:45:09,791 --> 00:45:11,791 This is Horlivka. They'’re storming the building. 190 00:45:11,833 --> 00:45:13,333 Throwing rocks through windows. 191 00:45:13,375 --> 00:45:16,458 And the police inside are throwing out smoke grenades 192 00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:18,875 and stun grenades. 193 00:45:20,791 --> 00:45:24,583 When I was watching the Russian invasion of Eastern Ukraine, 194 00:45:24,625 --> 00:45:26,666 for me it was deja vu. 195 00:45:26,708 --> 00:45:29,458 Not long before I had finished writing a book about 196 00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:34,166 the Stalinization, Sovietization of Eastern Europe in 1945. 197 00:45:34,208 --> 00:45:36,833 The methods were exactly the same. 198 00:45:36,875 --> 00:45:39,250 It was what Russians call 'maskirovka'. 199 00:45:39,291 --> 00:45:41,083 Pretend they'’re not really Russians. 200 00:45:41,125 --> 00:45:43,500 Create fake political parties. 201 00:45:43,541 --> 00:45:45,250 Create fake slogans. 202 00:45:45,291 --> 00:45:46,666 Recruit local criminals 203 00:45:46,708 --> 00:45:49,250 to undermine what existing power there is. 204 00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:54,375 This is what the pro-Russian revolution in Eastern Ukraine 205 00:45:54,416 --> 00:45:56,041 looks like from the inside. 206 00:45:58,166 --> 00:46:00,666 The idea was to create the semblance 207 00:46:00,708 --> 00:46:01,958 of a separatist movement. 208 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,958 Persuade a few people to join it. 209 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,583 Persuade the outside world that that'’s what it was. 210 00:46:06,625 --> 00:46:10,666 All under the guise of it being de facto Russian invasion. 211 00:46:10,708 --> 00:46:13,958 Of course now it'’s more than clear that's what it was. 212 00:51:42,375 --> 00:51:46,166 {\an8}Ukraine'’s army has launched an aggressive military operation 213 00:51:46,208 --> 00:51:48,458 {\an8}as the government tries to regain control of several... 214 00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:50,333 {\an8}Ukrainian army setting up their positions on the road 215 00:51:50,375 --> 00:51:52,666 {\an8}into Slovyansk, checking vehicles... 216 00:51:52,708 --> 00:51:55,375 I think Putin'’s original goal was to divide Ukraine. 217 00:51:55,416 --> 00:52:00,000 What he didn'’t expect was pushback from the Ukrainians. 218 00:52:00,041 --> 00:52:02,166 After Crimea was so easily conquered, 219 00:52:02,208 --> 00:52:05,458 he expected to walk into Odessa and other cities 220 00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:07,500 and have exactly the same reaction. 221 00:52:07,541 --> 00:52:10,083 And I think what he has never understood, and this has always 222 00:52:10,125 --> 00:52:12,125 been hard for Russians to understand, is that 223 00:52:12,166 --> 00:52:14,833 there is such a thing as a Ukrainian national identity. 224 00:52:15,458 --> 00:52:17,875 {\an8}There are reports that the Ukrainian army 225 00:52:17,916 --> 00:52:19,666 {\an8}moved forward this morning. 226 00:52:19,708 --> 00:52:21,750 {\an8}But we've heard from reporters 227 00:52:21,791 --> 00:52:24,750 {\an8}that Russian groups had reestablished positions. 228 00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:45,541 Ukraine has become a testing ground for the Russian military. 229 00:52:46,041 --> 00:52:51,416 But with one very significant modern circumstance, 230 00:52:51,458 --> 00:52:53,083 additional condition. 231 00:52:53,125 --> 00:52:56,375 And that'’s the Propaganda War. 232 00:52:56,625 --> 00:53:01,333 When I look at what Russian propaganda is spreading, 233 00:53:01,375 --> 00:53:03,916 I wonder at the power of Photoshop. 234 00:53:03,958 --> 00:53:09,291 How Photoshop can be very easily used to distort the picture. 235 00:53:09,916 --> 00:53:15,916 The massive lies spread by the Russian propaganda, 236 00:53:15,958 --> 00:53:19,458 even before the war started, 237 00:53:19,875 --> 00:53:22,750 were a key factor in 238 00:53:22,791 --> 00:53:25,291 destabilizing situation in Ukraine. 239 00:53:27,375 --> 00:53:29,666 {\an8}During the three months of armed clashes 240 00:53:29,708 --> 00:53:31,083 {\an8}in the Donbas region, 241 00:53:31,125 --> 00:53:33,458 {\an8}the Kyiv authorities have not been able to quell 242 00:53:33,500 --> 00:53:35,791 {\an8}the uprising of the People'’s militia. 243 00:53:35,833 --> 00:53:38,750 {\an8}Inept command, thousands of dead soldiers 244 00:53:38,791 --> 00:53:40,833 {\an8}and a critical shortage of funding 245 00:53:40,875 --> 00:53:44,291 {\an8}does not give the Kyiv regime any hope for winning. 246 00:53:44,333 --> 00:53:46,750 {\an8}Why do Americans need this war? 247 00:53:46,791 --> 00:53:51,041 All wars have a propaganda and disinformation element. 248 00:53:51,083 --> 00:53:53,500 This one is nothing new. 249 00:53:53,541 --> 00:53:56,333 What we've seen, over the last two years, 250 00:53:56,375 --> 00:53:59,666 is a massive propaganda campaign 251 00:53:59,708 --> 00:54:03,500 and a very-very successful disinformation campaign. 252 00:54:03,541 --> 00:54:07,208 {\an8}...Russia does not only protect its national interests, 253 00:54:07,250 --> 00:54:12,541 {\an8}but seeks to prevent the outbreak of World War Three. 254 00:54:21,625 --> 00:54:24,291 The Russians understand western media 255 00:54:24,333 --> 00:54:28,041 far better than the western media understands itself, 256 00:54:28,083 --> 00:54:32,958 and they play to the western media's short attention span. 257 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,041 If you keep track, you'll see actors and actresses 258 00:54:37,083 --> 00:54:40,625 playing different roles in different places. 259 00:54:40,666 --> 00:54:43,000 They just move from one place to another. 260 00:55:02,541 --> 00:55:05,083 If you keep track, you know what'’s going on. 261 00:55:05,125 --> 00:55:11,041 But in the flood of events, what happens is the Russians do that, 262 00:55:11,083 --> 00:55:13,208 and then they do something else. 263 00:55:13,250 --> 00:55:15,750 And each is treated as a separate story 264 00:55:15,791 --> 00:55:18,833 or ignored as part of the noise. 265 00:55:18,875 --> 00:55:20,875 As long as the Russian government can always 266 00:55:20,916 --> 00:55:23,041 have its message out there, 267 00:55:23,083 --> 00:55:24,375 it will get it covered. 268 00:55:24,416 --> 00:55:26,250 As outrageous as it may be. 269 00:55:26,291 --> 00:55:28,708 Statements that are just simply untrue. 270 00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:25,708 A Malaysian airliner with 295 people on board 271 00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:27,708 crashes in Eastern Ukraine. 272 00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:29,375 We'’ll be live across the world 273 00:57:29,416 --> 00:57:31,583 assessing the impact of this disaster... 274 00:57:46,125 --> 00:57:48,208 ...bound for Cuala Lumpur, 275 00:57:48,250 --> 00:57:50,375 roughly three hours later Ukrainian 276 00:57:50,416 --> 00:57:53,500 air traffic controllers lost contact with the plane. 277 00:57:53,541 --> 00:57:55,250 Kremlin-backed forces boasted online 278 00:57:55,291 --> 00:57:58,208 of shooting down a Ukrainian military transport plane, 279 00:57:58,250 --> 00:58:00,333 before hastily removing the posts 280 00:58:00,375 --> 00:58:03,500 after realizing minutes later they had mistakenly shot down 281 00:58:03,541 --> 00:58:05,208 the international passenger flight. 282 00:58:05,250 --> 00:58:07,666 The passengers onboard that plane were from all over Europe, 283 00:58:07,708 --> 00:58:09,125 Asia, even Australia. 284 00:58:09,166 --> 00:58:14,208 But most of them on board, 154 of the 295 onboard, 285 00:58:14,250 --> 00:58:15,625 were Dutch. 286 00:58:15,666 --> 00:58:18,791 Also, disturbing reports that as many as 80 children 287 00:58:18,833 --> 00:58:20,291 could have been onboard. 288 00:58:20,333 --> 00:58:25,000 Another disturbing layer to this already horrific story. 289 00:58:42,541 --> 00:58:45,583 There were truly horrific pictures of people 290 00:58:45,625 --> 00:58:47,583 from Donetsk and Luhansk 291 00:58:47,625 --> 00:58:51,791 raiding the wreckage from this downed plane. 292 00:58:54,916 --> 00:58:58,750 Had this gone on for very long, 293 00:58:58,791 --> 00:59:02,291 it would have become obvious to everyone I think, 294 00:59:02,333 --> 00:59:05,250 if nothing else had occured, 295 00:59:05,291 --> 00:59:07,250 that the Russian government bore 296 00:59:07,291 --> 00:59:09,916 ultimate responsibility for this. 297 00:59:09,958 --> 00:59:12,208 But it didn't happen that way. 298 00:59:37,708 --> 00:59:40,250 When the Malaysian airplane went down over Ukraine, 299 00:59:40,291 --> 00:59:41,625 that was something they didn't plan, 300 00:59:41,666 --> 00:59:42,875 they didn't mean for that to happen. 301 00:59:42,916 --> 00:59:45,666 And so they just threw up a lot of messages. 302 00:59:45,708 --> 00:59:48,875 The Americans did it, the CIA did it, 303 00:59:48,916 --> 00:59:51,625 it was the same Malaysian plane that went down over the Pacific. 304 00:59:51,666 --> 00:59:54,416 The CIA dredged it up, filled it with corpses. 305 00:59:54,458 --> 00:59:56,000 They have these ideas, 306 00:59:56,041 --> 00:59:59,625 and the point of those ideas is not that anybody believes them, 307 00:59:59,666 --> 01:00:02,083 but that a real tragedy involving real human beings 308 01:00:02,125 --> 01:00:04,166 becomes just a media event. 309 01:00:12,625 --> 01:00:13,958 Returning to the Netherlands 310 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,000 where their tragic journey began, 311 01:00:16,041 --> 01:00:20,166 the first of the victims of Flight MH17. 312 01:00:20,208 --> 01:00:23,750 40 bodies, all of them yet to be identified, 313 01:00:23,791 --> 01:00:25,416 carried out of the cargo planes, 314 01:00:25,458 --> 01:00:28,458 with the dignity and respect they deserve. 315 01:00:33,208 --> 01:00:38,208 It took the shooting down of a Western airplane, 316 01:00:38,250 --> 01:00:44,291 it took the deaths of Europeans and Australians 317 01:00:44,333 --> 01:00:49,500 to really wake the West up to what Putin was. 318 01:00:49,541 --> 01:00:53,666 And to the lawlessness that he represented. 319 01:00:53,708 --> 01:00:56,833 And to the fact that that was really dangerous 320 01:00:56,875 --> 01:00:58,833 not just for Ukrainians, 321 01:00:59,125 --> 01:01:02,375 but for everybody else. 322 01:01:20,708 --> 01:01:26,000 We ask our partners not to lift sanctions 323 01:01:26,041 --> 01:01:32,958 until Ukraine takes over the control of its entire territory 324 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,958 starting with the East of Ukraine and ending with Crimea. 325 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:43,125 Crimea was, is, and will be a part of Ukraine. 326 01:01:45,833 --> 01:01:53,583 Mister Putin, you will never win the fight against the nation, 327 01:01:54,083 --> 01:01:57,625 united Ukrainian nation. 328 01:16:51,166 --> 01:16:53,208 Despite the war, despite everything, 329 01:16:53,250 --> 01:16:55,666 the main problem in Ukraine is rule of law. 330 01:16:55,708 --> 01:16:57,833 And if that problem could be solved, 331 01:16:57,875 --> 01:17:00,166 then not only would all the other problems in Ukraine 332 01:17:00,208 --> 01:17:02,875 fall into proportion, resolve themselves, 333 01:17:02,916 --> 01:17:04,958 but also that would be the best possible result 334 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,000 for the rest of Eastern Europe or for that matter, just Europe. 335 01:17:08,041 --> 01:17:11,208 Because getting over the hump from corruption to rule of law 336 01:17:11,250 --> 01:17:15,625 is a lot harder than having a revolt or a revolution. 337 01:22:12,833 --> 01:22:16,166 Ukraine faces a very difficult future. 338 01:22:18,083 --> 01:22:20,041 They have these two big challenges. 339 01:22:20,083 --> 01:22:24,250 One is that they've got to restructure their economy, 340 01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:26,375 to put on the decentralization. 341 01:22:26,416 --> 01:22:27,958 There's a lot of things they need to do 342 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,375 to make Ukraine a state that functions better 343 01:22:31,416 --> 01:22:34,250 in terms of meeting the requirements of the population. 344 01:22:34,291 --> 01:22:36,041 And they have to do it while they are engaged 345 01:22:36,083 --> 01:22:37,375 in this military conflict 346 01:22:37,416 --> 01:22:39,875 with the separatists and the Russians in the east. 347 01:27:25,833 --> 01:27:28,958 Ukrainian society is united more than before. 348 01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,250 And it was consolidated by Maidan events. 349 01:27:31,291 --> 01:27:33,375 They are together. And it doesn'’t matter whether they are 350 01:27:33,416 --> 01:27:36,500 Jews, Greeks, Bulgarians, Hungarians. 351 01:27:36,541 --> 01:27:38,583 The only way forward for Ukraine, 352 01:27:38,625 --> 01:27:40,333 and the only way to move towards Europe, 353 01:27:40,375 --> 01:27:42,250 is to build a political nation. 354 01:27:42,291 --> 01:27:47,083 Where everybody feels equal and everybody feels Ukrainian 355 01:27:47,125 --> 01:27:50,000 as in England, everyone feels British, 356 01:27:50,041 --> 01:27:52,125 whether they are Indian, Pakistanis, 357 01:27:52,166 --> 01:27:55,916 ex-Polish, Russian, or English, or Scottish. 358 01:28:03,250 --> 01:28:06,083 Ukraine'’s become a piece of a bigger struggle 359 01:28:06,125 --> 01:28:08,333 which I think is really going to be about the future 360 01:28:08,375 --> 01:28:09,875 of European democracy. 361 01:28:09,916 --> 01:28:14,166 Can European democracy even survive, into the 21st Century? 362 01:28:14,208 --> 01:28:18,458 Ukraine is really the first step in a Russian 363 01:28:18,500 --> 01:28:21,458 attempt and effort to undermine and destroy the West. 364 01:28:21,500 --> 01:28:24,333 And this is said openly in Russia. 365 01:28:24,375 --> 01:28:25,875 You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist 366 01:28:25,916 --> 01:28:26,916 to think that. 367 01:28:36,583 --> 01:28:39,541 Ukraine is an illustration and a demonstration 368 01:28:39,583 --> 01:28:41,875 of Russia's national goals. 369 01:28:43,041 --> 01:28:49,083 Precisely for the reasons that Putin fears and opposes 370 01:28:49,125 --> 01:28:54,250 the rise of a democratic, prosperous rule of law Ukraine, 371 01:28:54,291 --> 01:28:58,875 we should be doing everything we can to encourage it. 372 01:28:59,708 --> 01:29:05,750 I am convinced that the path to democracy in Russia 373 01:29:05,791 --> 01:29:07,250 goes through Ukraine. 29095

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