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Damn it.
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Fuck!
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Fuck!
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I'm willing to struggle
through the learning process,
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even change my approach
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just to figure out how to do it.
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I never want to back down
from a challenge.
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If you're convinced
that you're going to fail,
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that will come to fruition.
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I was willing to get hurt
along the way,
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but I didn't visualize myself
getting hurt along the way.
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I always approached it like,
"This is going to work."
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"I'm going
to figure this out."
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My mom used to like
to tell the story
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that when she would
play tennis with me,
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I would purposely just try
to hit her with the balls.
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She scolded me at one point.
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She's like,
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"I think you're trying
to hit me, Tony.
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"I'm not going to play with you
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if you're just trying
to hurt me."
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I don't know
what my disorder was,
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but I was definitely difficult.
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I was determined to have my way
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to the point of being
very combative.
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My mom would say that I was...
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She just said
I was very determined.
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I was really young,
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but I remember my mom was
so frustrated with me
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'cause I just wouldn't do
what she said.
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I wanted to do something,
I wanted to do something else,
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I... and she finally just said,
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"If you don't
stop being difficult,
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I'm going to flush myself
down the toilet."
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I didn't believe it,
I didn't care, I didn't quit,
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and she went in the bathroom
and flushed the toilet and hid.
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She watched me lean over,
the toilet is swirling, going,
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"My mommy!"
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- I think she is
in the beauty parlor.
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- Oh, really?
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Hi.
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- I'm gonna pull her out
whenever she's done.
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- Okay.
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- All right, thank you.
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- Thank you.
Bye-bye.
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- Hi, Mom.
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Hi, Mom, it's Tony.
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How are you?
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How have you been?
You look good.
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I leave for Montreal next week
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for another one
of those skate contests.
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Keegan is turning 18
in a couple weeks...
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Which is a frightening prospect.
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And then once Calvin is out,
we only have Kady.
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It's gonna be crazy.
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But I guess by that time,
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the older kids will move
back in.
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Isn't that what they do?
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Maybe not.
Your kids didn't.
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'Cause you taught us
to be independent.
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It was always a big deal
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that my mom was 43
when she had me.
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People would say,
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"Oh, she's much older,"
you know?
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And, "There are lots of risks
involved."
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- Tony and I are 20 years apart.
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I was a junior in college
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when my mom told me
she was pregnant.
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- I was a senior in high school.
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All of Tony's siblings,
including me, we're older.
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- I'm 12 1/2 years older
than Tony,
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so when he was young,
especially,
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our relationship
was almost as much...
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paternal as fraternal.
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- I was basically an only child,
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and my parents were old enough
to be my grandparents.
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- He was stuck at home
with my mom and dad
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at a time when their marriage
wasn't so great.
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- My dad wasn't working a lot.
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He had been retired
from the Navy
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and kind of finding his way.
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- My brother was a surfer.
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He drove him, you know,
dawn patrol to get the waves.
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My sister was a singer.
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He was hauling
all their band gear.
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He was the coach
of our baseball team.
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The first time I ever
went to bat in Little League,
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I was probably
about eight or nine.
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I knew I was gonna hit it.
I was gonna get a home run.
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Failure was not an option.
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I didn't even consider what
would happen if I struck out.
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And then I remember striking out
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and thinking
the world had ended.
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I always felt a little misplaced
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in all of those sports.
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I couldn't do
the physical things
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that most of my peers could do
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because they were bigger
and they were stronger,
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and so I was always
just feeling uncomfortable
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and kind of disappointed
in myself.
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- People would say,
"Oh, you have adult children,
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and you have...
And you have Tony?"
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She goes, "Yeah,
he's our little mistake."
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- I really do think
that that played a role
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in his, um... his psyche.
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That she would have had
an abortion if she could have
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in some ways, I think,
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maybe made him want
to prove himself.
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- Bye, Mom. I love you.
We'll see you soon, okay?
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- Thanks for the visit.
Enjoy your lunch.
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Do you see me now?
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My mom was always careful
with her words,
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always positive.
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And then, I think, one day,
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I was just pushing her buttons,
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and she's like, "You know,
you're just full of it.
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You're just full of it, Tony.
Full of it."
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I'm like, "What?"
She goes, "You're full of...
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"shit.
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You're full of shit."
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And I was like...
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- Tony was a bit of a dick
when he was little.
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Stubborn as fuck.
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He and my dad
would bicker like crazy.
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I got along with Tony way better
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when it was just the two of us.
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So I would often go off...
We'd go off,
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go to the beach or go someplace.
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- And I remember
he and his friend were skating
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in the alleyway,
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and there was
another skateboard,
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this older one
that was just sitting there,
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and I said,
"Well, can I try that one?"
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I just was going down the alley,
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yelling back, "How do I turn?
How do I turn?"
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And then I eventually
ran into the fence.
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It wasn't like the skies parted
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and there was
some great revelation.
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It was more like,
"Oh, this is hard."
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- You know, that skateboard has
gone on to be kind of a thing.
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It's now... we...
It's in the Smithsonian.
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- Freedom.
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I'm moving fast,
but I'm in control
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and I'm flowing.
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I could just
cruise the landscape.
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Going down hills.
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Terrible ramps in our driveway.
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Everything about it spoke to me.
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- He just needed focus,
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and so when he started
focusing and skateboarding,
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he changed.
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- He just calmed down.
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He just walked through the world
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with a lot more kind of
maturity and generosity.
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- The main skate park
in San Diego was called Oasis.
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It was just under
a freeway overpass.
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And we would see it,
and it was like,
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"Oh, there's Oasis."
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Older kids going way faster
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than I had ever seen
anyone on a skateboard.
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And it just looked
scary as hell.
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There were these five craters,
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and I was going
down the crater and up
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and then down the crater and up,
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and I thought
that was super cool.
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And this big kid came flying up,
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and he jumped
over the middle crater,
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and I was like,
"How did that just happen?"
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I just couldn't believe
what I saw,
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and I said, "Oh, this is it.
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I'm doing this.
This is my life."
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I quit playing baseball
and basketball.
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- I remember once
when I was home from college,
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my mom asked me
to go pick him up
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at the Oasis skate park
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because dinner was almost ready.
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So I was just gonna run
down there and grab him,
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but he was in the process
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of learning
frontside rock and rolls.
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And he was getting close,
and so of course,
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you know, the closer you get,
the more you slam, and...
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But he was young enough
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where he was actually crying,
I think, over this.
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And I'm like,
"Tony, come on, we got to go."
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And he's like,
"I'm gonna make"...
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Just, I wasn't even there,
you know?
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And then finally, he made one
clean and rolled away.
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And it was like
everything kind of lifted.
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And he didn't, like, run over
and give me a high five.
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It was like...
"Okay."
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And I've seen that
in him a bunch
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when he's learning something.
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He'll get really pissed off,
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and then as soon as he makes it,
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he's back to being his nice,
normal Tony Hawk self.
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- I knew of Stacy's name
because of the Dogtown crew.
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And so I knew
more of his reputation
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than his skating.
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- Stacy had been there.
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You know, he'd blazed the trail.
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He had been a pro.
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He knew what that was all about.
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- He was just
this iconic figure.
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He formed the Bones Brigade.
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- He just seemed like
this sort of...
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I wouldn't say father figure,
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but definitely a figurehead
of skateboarding.
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- I was a fixture at every one
of these contests.
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I was at every pro contest.
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I was at every amateur contest.
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Tony did not display
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any physical talent.
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You could watch Tony
as a 13-year-old kid
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and go, "Dime a dozen,"
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because he was so weak
and so skinny
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that he skated as if he was
being operated by a puppeteer.
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He was just this kind of,
like, guy like this.
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But the one thing
that he did have is,
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you could see in this
little weakling of a kid
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this intense determination.
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You could see in there,
there was a mind going,
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"Do this! Do this!"
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- One time,
I was at the skate park,
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and the Bones Brigade showed up.
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And you just knew it
immediately.
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Like, there was a hush
in the skate park.
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Everyone on the team
were considered
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some of the best skaters.
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And Stacy was walking in
with these guys,
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and they all had these, like,
cool-colored helmets
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and their Bones Brigade shirts.
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And I was just like,
"This is the future."
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- I remember Stacy was
at the park, and I'm like,
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"Hey, is there any way I can
get on your guys' thing?"
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Like, "Hey, man,
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"I think you should just
stick with G&S.
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You'd be better on them, man."
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He probably had the vision
of the Brigade right then.
239
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And maybe he was like,
"It's not gonna work, dog."
240
00:16:41,709 --> 00:16:44,712
- Stacy was gonna get
his own little phenoms
241
00:16:44,795 --> 00:16:46,547
and younger guys
and build it up.
242
00:16:46,630 --> 00:16:48,549
So I was like, "Wow,
I can get on the team."
243
00:16:53,595 --> 00:16:54,805
- You know, Stacy Peralta
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00:16:54,888 --> 00:16:58,934
was a cool kind of, like, mentor
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for me at 12 years old
riding for Bones Brigade.
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There came a point
where I was like,
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"I want to turn pro."
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00:17:05,065 --> 00:17:07,609
Stacy was like,
"No, you're not ready."
249
00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:09,570
- I lost Christian Hosoi.
250
00:17:09,653 --> 00:17:12,030
His dad didn't think I was
moving his career along
251
00:17:12,114 --> 00:17:14,575
fast enough, so I had a vacancy.
252
00:17:14,658 --> 00:17:16,994
And I had been watching Tony.
253
00:17:17,077 --> 00:17:20,497
- He kind of summoned me
to Marina del Rey.
254
00:17:20,581 --> 00:17:22,875
My brother offered
to drive me up there.
255
00:17:22,958 --> 00:17:25,627
We got up there, he handed me
this experimental
256
00:17:25,711 --> 00:17:28,297
Steve Caballero
model skateboard,
257
00:17:28,380 --> 00:17:31,341
and I just started skating,
and I jumped the channel.
258
00:17:31,425 --> 00:17:34,178
And that was no small feat
to jump the Marina channel.
259
00:17:34,261 --> 00:17:35,471
That thing was big.
260
00:17:35,554 --> 00:17:36,972
And basically, he said,
261
00:17:37,055 --> 00:17:38,533
"If you want to be
on the Bones Brigade,
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we'd love to have you."
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00:17:40,350 --> 00:17:42,519
- He realized
this kid's got grit.
264
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He doesn't give up.
265
00:17:43,896 --> 00:17:46,899
He's also really skilled.
266
00:17:46,982 --> 00:17:48,901
He's also gonna get bigger
and get stronger.
267
00:18:05,375 --> 00:18:08,003
- When I was officially
on the team of Powell,
268
00:18:08,086 --> 00:18:10,881
that was way scarier
than anything else,
269
00:18:10,964 --> 00:18:13,634
where it was suddenly like
I was on this next level
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00:18:13,717 --> 00:18:18,138
of team, of ability, of belief,
271
00:18:18,222 --> 00:18:22,267
and I had so much more to prove.
272
00:18:22,351 --> 00:18:24,520
- The first time I saw Tony,
I was like,
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00:18:24,603 --> 00:18:26,313
"Look at this little kid."
274
00:18:26,396 --> 00:18:30,526
He was probably, I don't know,
60 pounds wet, maybe.
275
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- We were in a hot tub.
276
00:18:31,902 --> 00:18:35,531
We were hazing him like
he's the new guy on the team.
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I said, "Hey, dude,
if you want to... you know,
278
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"if you want to be
part of the crew,
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you're gonna have
to give me your gum."
280
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And I stuck it
in between my toes.
281
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And then I gave it back to him.
282
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I go, "You're gonna have
to chew this gum
283
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if you want to be
part of the crew."
284
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And he did.
285
00:18:48,919 --> 00:18:50,003
- Now with Tony Hawk.
286
00:18:50,087 --> 00:18:51,439
Tony just finished
that first round.
287
00:18:51,463 --> 00:18:53,441
Do you think you're gonna make
the next cut to eight?
288
00:18:53,465 --> 00:18:55,342
- Uh, I think I have
a pretty good chance,
289
00:18:55,425 --> 00:18:57,177
because I stayed on my board,
290
00:18:57,261 --> 00:18:59,263
and that's pretty tough
to do in a competition.
291
00:18:59,346 --> 00:19:02,140
- Who do you think your
competition's gonna be today?
292
00:19:02,224 --> 00:19:04,768
- Uh, probably...
I'm gonna have a tough time
293
00:19:04,852 --> 00:19:06,770
beating pretty much anyone
who entered.
294
00:19:06,854 --> 00:19:10,858
Mainly Lance Mountain,
Mike McGill, Stevie Caballero.
295
00:19:17,281 --> 00:19:20,367
- He was a nightmare.
Total nightmare.
296
00:19:20,450 --> 00:19:22,202
Complete, total nightmare.
297
00:19:22,286 --> 00:19:24,913
I remember when I first
picked him up on the team,
298
00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:26,832
we were at
the Upland skateboard park,
299
00:19:26,915 --> 00:19:28,434
and I said, "Well,
I'm gonna take you home."
300
00:19:28,458 --> 00:19:30,878
And he goes, "No, I want
to go to Chuck E. Cheese."
301
00:19:30,961 --> 00:19:31,962
And I go, "What's that?"
302
00:19:32,045 --> 00:19:33,922
He goes, "I want to go
to Chuck E. Cheese."
303
00:19:34,006 --> 00:19:35,149
And I go, "Yeah, what is it?"
304
00:19:35,173 --> 00:19:36,901
He goes, "It's a pizza place
where you can play games."
305
00:19:36,925 --> 00:19:38,552
I go, "I'm not going there."
306
00:19:43,891 --> 00:19:45,100
It was a Chuck E. Cheese.
307
00:19:45,183 --> 00:19:46,727
I know what he's talking about.
308
00:19:52,816 --> 00:19:55,569
There was a...
I'm a creature of habit,
309
00:19:55,652 --> 00:19:57,571
and so when we would
go skate Upland,
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00:19:57,654 --> 00:19:58,923
there were only
a few restaurants
311
00:19:58,947 --> 00:20:02,951
that I would allow myself
to go to.
312
00:20:03,035 --> 00:20:04,995
And Lamppost Pizza
was one of them.
313
00:20:05,078 --> 00:20:07,414
Like, a mild version
of Chuck E. Cheese.
314
00:20:07,497 --> 00:20:10,459
It was lots of games
and counter service.
315
00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:13,962
And they weren't known
for their cuisine.
316
00:20:14,046 --> 00:20:15,714
- He got me to take him there.
317
00:20:15,797 --> 00:20:17,507
It was the worst nightmare
of my life,
318
00:20:17,591 --> 00:20:19,134
but I'm sitting there going,
319
00:20:19,217 --> 00:20:21,720
"This 13-year-old brat
just got me to do something
320
00:20:21,803 --> 00:20:23,347
"I was firmly against doing.
321
00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:25,140
He's got some power."
322
00:20:25,223 --> 00:20:27,643
Just the décor and the sounds
323
00:20:27,726 --> 00:20:30,604
and all the awful food.
324
00:20:30,687 --> 00:20:33,523
And I remember just thinking,
"I'm never doing this again.
325
00:20:33,607 --> 00:20:36,360
I'm never coming back
to this place again."
326
00:20:36,443 --> 00:20:37,778
- Stacy had the worst job.
327
00:20:37,861 --> 00:20:39,696
I mean, he was...
328
00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:41,406
He curated this awesome team,
329
00:20:41,490 --> 00:20:43,075
but we were all kids
in our own right,
330
00:20:43,158 --> 00:20:45,619
and we're all
with our own issues
331
00:20:45,702 --> 00:20:49,331
and looking for validation,
looking for support.
332
00:20:49,414 --> 00:20:53,377
And suddenly, he had to be
this surrogate dad.
333
00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:55,337
- I think the first time
I saw Tony skate
334
00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:58,131
was at Kona Skatepark.
335
00:20:58,215 --> 00:21:00,717
I had just gotten on the team,
336
00:21:00,801 --> 00:21:03,428
and they all came from out west.
337
00:21:03,512 --> 00:21:05,222
And I remember meeting him,
338
00:21:05,305 --> 00:21:06,848
and I was so...
339
00:21:06,932 --> 00:21:09,351
I tripped out
because of how skinny he was.
340
00:21:09,434 --> 00:21:11,478
It was as though he had
a hard time
341
00:21:11,561 --> 00:21:13,146
getting up the wall.
342
00:21:13,230 --> 00:21:16,900
But the control he had
was insane.
343
00:21:17,734 --> 00:21:21,446
Immediately, you got a sense
that he's entirely different.
344
00:21:22,948 --> 00:21:25,826
- Rodney Mullen, like,
he and I were on
345
00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:29,162
complete parallel trajectories
with our skating.
346
00:21:29,246 --> 00:21:32,791
Rodney was the absolute best
freestyler in the world,
347
00:21:32,874 --> 00:21:37,379
a precision level
like no other athlete
348
00:21:37,462 --> 00:21:41,049
or performer you've ever seen.
349
00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:44,386
- Because we skated
completely different,
350
00:21:44,469 --> 00:21:47,806
that made it easier for me
to relate to him, in a sense.
351
00:21:47,889 --> 00:21:50,225
I never had to compete
against Tony.
352
00:21:54,646 --> 00:21:57,190
Stacy would ship me down,
and I would stay with Tony,
353
00:21:57,274 --> 00:21:59,693
practice for the week
at Del Mar.
354
00:21:59,776 --> 00:22:04,197
That's when a real sense
of connection, for me,
355
00:22:04,281 --> 00:22:06,575
I had with Tony
more than any other skater.
356
00:22:09,953 --> 00:22:11,538
- No one understood us.
357
00:22:13,123 --> 00:22:14,750
But we understood each other.
358
00:22:24,885 --> 00:22:28,305
- I think watching Tony learn
and fall
359
00:22:28,388 --> 00:22:31,224
is more interesting
than watching him land tricks,
360
00:22:31,308 --> 00:22:34,144
because you can see
how fast he rifles
361
00:22:34,227 --> 00:22:36,730
to something called
the calculus of variations,
362
00:22:36,813 --> 00:22:38,732
of how he corrects himself
363
00:22:38,815 --> 00:22:41,568
and gets to the right spot fast.
364
00:22:41,651 --> 00:22:45,614
That, to this day,
is unparalleled.
365
00:22:45,697 --> 00:22:49,743
- Tony was able to figure out
how to overcome
366
00:22:49,826 --> 00:22:51,745
all of the things he didn't have
367
00:22:51,828 --> 00:22:53,747
in order to get what he wanted.
368
00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:55,248
For instance,
369
00:22:55,332 --> 00:22:57,417
when skateboarders
originally did aerials,
370
00:22:57,501 --> 00:22:59,086
they'd go up
the side of the pool,
371
00:22:59,169 --> 00:23:00,712
and they'd pull the board off
372
00:23:00,796 --> 00:23:02,798
and kind of do
a leap into the air.
373
00:23:02,881 --> 00:23:04,132
Tony couldn't do that.
374
00:23:04,216 --> 00:23:06,843
He didn't have
the strength to leap.
375
00:23:06,927 --> 00:23:10,055
Most guys touch the board,
grab it, leap into the air.
376
00:23:10,138 --> 00:23:13,767
Tony figures out,
"I'll ollie into my aerials."
377
00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:16,812
He doesn't touch the board
until he's in the air.
378
00:23:16,895 --> 00:23:18,313
You never break your speed.
379
00:23:18,396 --> 00:23:20,107
It's one bang.
380
00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:22,484
Well, we discover
it's much more efficient
381
00:23:22,567 --> 00:23:23,944
to do it that way.
382
00:23:25,028 --> 00:23:26,613
- When I figured that out,
383
00:23:26,696 --> 00:23:29,282
that changed everything for me.
384
00:23:29,366 --> 00:23:31,409
I started doing varials
and finger flips
385
00:23:31,493 --> 00:23:32,828
way up in the air.
386
00:23:32,911 --> 00:23:34,663
- But of course,
when he first did it,
387
00:23:34,746 --> 00:23:35,973
people thought he was cheating.
388
00:23:35,997 --> 00:23:37,207
"That's cheating."
389
00:23:37,290 --> 00:23:39,167
It's a technique.
How can you be cheating?
390
00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:41,461
"It's cheating."
They thought it was cheating.
391
00:23:41,545 --> 00:23:44,673
You know, and at that time,
skateboarding was dominated
392
00:23:44,756 --> 00:23:47,384
by balls-out pool riders,
393
00:23:47,467 --> 00:23:49,344
Duane Peters, people like that
394
00:23:49,427 --> 00:23:52,514
that really had power and flair.
395
00:23:52,597 --> 00:23:53,890
And here comes Tony Hawk
396
00:23:53,974 --> 00:23:56,101
with all these
weird little flip tricks.
397
00:23:56,184 --> 00:23:59,479
Those guys are looking at him
and going, "What is this?"
398
00:23:59,563 --> 00:24:01,481
- A lot of that shit, dude,
I mean,
399
00:24:01,565 --> 00:24:04,025
I still can't understand it
when I look at it.
400
00:24:04,109 --> 00:24:08,321
It's like fuckin'
flippy doo-da-day bullshit.
401
00:24:08,405 --> 00:24:11,283
Go fucking play
with your sister's baton, bro.
402
00:24:13,994 --> 00:24:15,162
- Want me to do it again?
403
00:24:15,245 --> 00:24:16,705
- Yeah, go ahead.
404
00:24:16,788 --> 00:24:17,998
Okay.
405
00:24:18,081 --> 00:24:19,441
What do you think
of skateboarding?
406
00:24:19,499 --> 00:24:21,293
- What do I think of it?
407
00:24:21,376 --> 00:24:22,770
Well, I've supported it
pretty strong
408
00:24:22,794 --> 00:24:24,504
for a lot of years.
409
00:24:30,969 --> 00:24:33,889
- Confusion.
- Confusion?
410
00:24:33,972 --> 00:24:35,223
- My dad wanted to make sure
411
00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:36,766
that there was organization
in place,
412
00:24:36,850 --> 00:24:39,895
that if Tony was gonna
be this committed to it,
413
00:24:39,978 --> 00:24:43,023
you know, he could actually
get some recognition for it.
414
00:24:43,106 --> 00:24:45,775
- My dad helped to form the NSA,
415
00:24:45,859 --> 00:24:48,820
which became
the sanctioning body
416
00:24:48,904 --> 00:24:50,572
for all the main events.
417
00:24:50,655 --> 00:24:53,033
- The NSA was the National
Skateboard Association.
418
00:24:53,116 --> 00:24:55,410
And people used to say,
"No skating allowed."
419
00:24:55,493 --> 00:24:58,538
And especially Mr. Hawk being
the guy who was, you know,
420
00:24:58,622 --> 00:25:00,207
yelling at people
to get off the ramp.
421
00:25:00,290 --> 00:25:02,417
- Do not come down to the ramp.
422
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:04,211
Please, get off the ramp.
423
00:25:07,005 --> 00:25:08,465
- He loved yelling at kids.
424
00:25:08,548 --> 00:25:09,925
You know,
"Get behind the barrier!"
425
00:25:10,008 --> 00:25:11,760
He loved doing that.
426
00:25:11,843 --> 00:25:14,971
- He just... he always had
this grimace about him.
427
00:25:15,055 --> 00:25:15,972
Super serious.
428
00:25:16,056 --> 00:25:20,018
Never saw him smile
or laugh about anything.
429
00:25:20,101 --> 00:25:23,104
Just always walking around
kind of like a...
430
00:25:23,188 --> 00:25:24,790
I don't think he drank,
but he seemed like
431
00:25:24,814 --> 00:25:27,108
just a pissed-off alcoholic,
basically.
432
00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:28,902
- He was a bull in a china shop.
433
00:25:28,985 --> 00:25:32,405
He had no finesse whatsoever.
434
00:25:32,489 --> 00:25:35,408
But he actually had
a really, really good heart.
435
00:25:35,492 --> 00:25:37,827
I mean, he came at a time
in skateboarding
436
00:25:37,911 --> 00:25:39,913
where skateboarding
really needed a guy
437
00:25:39,996 --> 00:25:43,083
like Frank Hawk to say,
"Look at this circus carnival.
438
00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:44,918
We got to focus this
a little bit."
439
00:25:45,001 --> 00:25:46,461
- And this is giving
in those spots,
440
00:25:46,544 --> 00:25:48,231
and they're riding it
and going "uh, uh, uh."
441
00:25:48,255 --> 00:25:49,506
- And he did a remarkable job,
442
00:25:49,589 --> 00:25:50,858
and he didn't get
anything for it
443
00:25:50,882 --> 00:25:52,634
except crap from people.
444
00:25:52,717 --> 00:25:55,887
- He carried around, like,
a little ledger a lot
445
00:25:55,971 --> 00:25:57,597
and was always looking harsh
at people.
446
00:25:59,015 --> 00:26:02,310
- I remember going,
"Fuck you," to his old man.
447
00:26:02,394 --> 00:26:03,853
Like, "Get the fuck out of here,
448
00:26:03,937 --> 00:26:06,064
"and take these
fucking grubby kids with...
449
00:26:06,147 --> 00:26:07,732
Get a fucking job."
450
00:26:07,816 --> 00:26:10,193
I'd go across the fence.
451
00:26:10,277 --> 00:26:12,779
"Get a fucking job."
You know.
452
00:26:12,862 --> 00:26:14,698
"Now he wants to bring
his Army shit
453
00:26:14,781 --> 00:26:16,574
to the National
Skateboarding Associ"...
454
00:26:16,658 --> 00:26:18,451
You know, blah, blah.
455
00:26:18,535 --> 00:26:21,997
- He just came off
as gruff and militant,
456
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,082
and they were like,
"Fuck that dude.
457
00:26:24,165 --> 00:26:25,165
That's your dad?"
458
00:26:25,208 --> 00:26:28,169
Like, and that would be
reflected on me.
459
00:26:33,425 --> 00:26:36,511
- Right... now.
460
00:26:38,638 --> 00:26:41,683
- One of the first times
I ever got to skate with pros,
461
00:26:41,766 --> 00:26:45,937
I remember seeing Steve Olson
and Duane Peters,
462
00:26:46,021 --> 00:26:47,981
and, of course,
I knew both of them.
463
00:26:48,064 --> 00:26:49,316
They're heroes.
464
00:26:49,399 --> 00:26:50,984
So I went over to kind of skate
465
00:26:51,067 --> 00:26:53,194
near the area they were skating
466
00:26:53,278 --> 00:26:56,406
and kept sort of
inching my way closer to them.
467
00:26:56,489 --> 00:26:59,492
- They were in a bowl,
and we were riding up.
468
00:26:59,576 --> 00:27:04,456
We'd either chase them out
or go to the next one.
469
00:27:04,539 --> 00:27:07,375
- I wanted to be near them.
470
00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:10,045
I wanted to be
skating with them.
471
00:27:10,128 --> 00:27:11,546
- "Fuck this."
472
00:27:11,629 --> 00:27:14,215
I mean, these geeky kids.
473
00:27:14,299 --> 00:27:15,508
"Hey, we want to follow you."
474
00:27:15,592 --> 00:27:17,552
- And they were laughing
about something,
475
00:27:17,635 --> 00:27:18,887
some inside joke.
476
00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:21,222
And I kind of snickered.
"Yeah, yeah," you know?
477
00:27:21,306 --> 00:27:23,058
Like, "Yeah, yeah,"
like I'm in on the joke.
478
00:27:23,141 --> 00:27:27,020
Duane turned towards me,
spit on my grip tape,
479
00:27:27,103 --> 00:27:29,397
and was like,
"This is punk rock, kid."
480
00:27:29,481 --> 00:27:32,859
- I don't remember spitting
on Hawk, but he does.
481
00:27:32,942 --> 00:27:34,527
I did this shit a lot,
482
00:27:34,611 --> 00:27:38,156
especially to guys
that are coming in to...
483
00:27:38,239 --> 00:27:39,657
Wanting to be pro.
484
00:27:39,741 --> 00:27:41,576
They're coming in
to take our spots.
485
00:27:41,659 --> 00:27:42,702
Fuck you.
486
00:27:52,003 --> 00:27:55,423
- It just reminded me
that I don't belong
487
00:27:55,507 --> 00:27:57,175
and this is a mistake
488
00:27:57,258 --> 00:28:01,596
and I can't even fit
into the skateboard world.
489
00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:02,931
That was heavy for me.
490
00:28:06,893 --> 00:28:08,603
- He took a lot of shit.
491
00:28:08,686 --> 00:28:12,232
He got a lot... people fired
a lot of arrows at him.
492
00:28:12,315 --> 00:28:15,068
He never really let on
how much that hurt, I think,
493
00:28:15,151 --> 00:28:17,028
at the time in the skate world.
494
00:28:17,112 --> 00:28:20,156
And he never showed...
495
00:28:22,325 --> 00:28:24,160
Kind of that resentful side
496
00:28:24,244 --> 00:28:26,204
that I'm sure
he must've been feeling.
497
00:28:26,287 --> 00:28:27,973
He just put his head down
and said, "Fuck it.
498
00:28:27,997 --> 00:28:29,749
"I'm gonna skate
as hard as I can,
499
00:28:29,833 --> 00:28:32,168
"I'm gonna get as good as I can,
500
00:28:32,252 --> 00:28:35,296
"and I'm gonna show
these assholes that, you know,
501
00:28:35,380 --> 00:28:36,798
I'm the best skater
out there."
502
00:28:42,137 --> 00:28:44,305
- Leading up to this
Whittier contest,
503
00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:47,559
November of 1982,
504
00:28:47,642 --> 00:28:51,521
I had just done really well
at the pro versus am event.
505
00:28:51,604 --> 00:28:53,481
All my peers were pro.
506
00:28:53,565 --> 00:28:55,608
And it was like,
"You're next."
507
00:28:55,692 --> 00:28:57,777
At the competition,
508
00:28:57,861 --> 00:28:59,737
we're filling out
the entry forms.
509
00:28:59,821 --> 00:29:01,656
It says "pro or amateur" box.
510
00:29:01,739 --> 00:29:03,992
Like, that determines
which category you're in.
511
00:29:04,075 --> 00:29:07,996
And I remember feeling Stacy
looking over my shoulder.
512
00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:11,291
I just checked pro.
513
00:29:11,374 --> 00:29:13,918
Then I looked up at him,
and I go, "Is that okay?"
514
00:29:14,002 --> 00:29:15,842
And he's like, "If that's
what you want to do."
515
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,505
And then I was pro.
516
00:29:17,589 --> 00:29:19,007
- That was it.
- That was it.
517
00:29:20,467 --> 00:29:23,178
There's no...
There's no champagne.
518
00:29:25,847 --> 00:29:30,268
I suddenly felt,
"This is super scary."
519
00:29:30,351 --> 00:29:32,937
Duane Peters is skating.
520
00:29:33,021 --> 00:29:36,441
My first thought was,
"Don't put me against Duane."
521
00:29:36,524 --> 00:29:39,360
- I went against him
on his first contest.
522
00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:41,488
- First head-to-head event
as a pro,
523
00:29:41,571 --> 00:29:43,114
I'm going against Duane Peters.
524
00:29:43,198 --> 00:29:46,326
- This is gonna be easy.
I'm taking this fucker.
525
00:29:46,409 --> 00:29:48,053
- Duane Peters.
These guys go head-on-head.
526
00:29:48,077 --> 00:29:49,162
It's who does better.
527
00:30:00,423 --> 00:30:01,423
- Go!
528
00:30:25,365 --> 00:30:28,868
- I can't see how difficult
these tricks are.
529
00:30:28,952 --> 00:30:31,871
They just look
fucking lame to me.
530
00:30:31,955 --> 00:30:34,874
- I knew for sure he did not
want me to beat him.
531
00:30:34,958 --> 00:30:37,126
My thought was, "Stay on target.
532
00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:39,087
Make your run."
533
00:30:52,183 --> 00:30:54,602
- Tony's dad's all excited.
534
00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:56,604
They're all
by the judging thing.
535
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:04,612
- Tony Hawk beats out
Duane Peters at 86.66.
536
00:31:05,822 --> 00:31:06,739
- I heard the scores,
537
00:31:06,823 --> 00:31:08,700
and it took a second
for it to register.
538
00:31:08,783 --> 00:31:10,910
And I was thinking,
"I beat Duane?
539
00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:12,245
"I beat Duane.
540
00:31:12,328 --> 00:31:14,581
I beat Duane!"
541
00:31:14,664 --> 00:31:18,293
- I was an old guy
on his way out.
542
00:31:18,376 --> 00:31:20,169
New crew coming in.
543
00:31:22,338 --> 00:31:26,801
That hurt, and... 'cause I was...
544
00:31:26,884 --> 00:31:28,469
All of a sudden,
it mattered to me.
545
00:31:28,553 --> 00:31:30,471
- Was that your last contest?
- Yeah.
546
00:31:30,555 --> 00:31:32,265
Pretty much everybody's, yeah.
547
00:31:36,311 --> 00:31:37,478
- Hi, I'm Bob Burbanks,
548
00:31:37,562 --> 00:31:39,439
and welcome to "Weekend Today."
549
00:31:39,522 --> 00:31:41,691
We're gonna take an exciting
look at skateboarding.
550
00:31:41,774 --> 00:31:44,777
This is a skateboard.
- That's not a skateboard.
551
00:31:44,861 --> 00:31:46,141
- Some neighborhood
daredevils...
552
00:31:46,195 --> 00:31:47,673
- We're gonna do
a little adjusting here.
553
00:31:47,697 --> 00:31:49,449
- Right here
on "Weekend Today."
554
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:58,124
- Now, this is a skateboard.
555
00:32:11,137 --> 00:32:14,349
- Stacy took a chance
putting out money
556
00:32:14,432 --> 00:32:16,768
to make a video
of skateboarding.
557
00:32:17,935 --> 00:32:20,021
- We originally made
the Bones Brigade videos
558
00:32:20,104 --> 00:32:22,940
thinking that skateboard shops
would play them.
559
00:32:23,024 --> 00:32:24,317
And then, we didn't realize,
560
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,069
but the release of the first one
561
00:32:26,152 --> 00:32:29,947
coincided with 70%
of Americans buying VCRs.
562
00:32:31,658 --> 00:32:32,867
- I think a lot of people,
563
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:34,535
that's where they first saw me.
564
00:32:38,289 --> 00:32:40,083
- And it also coincided
565
00:32:40,166 --> 00:32:43,211
when Tony started to get strong.
566
00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:45,588
- That was when Tony
first kind of came in
567
00:32:45,672 --> 00:32:47,090
as this wunderkind.
568
00:32:47,173 --> 00:32:49,717
So when the first
Bones Brigade video came out,
569
00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:52,970
which was the first
action sports video ever made,
570
00:32:53,054 --> 00:32:54,931
Tony was on the cover.
571
00:32:55,014 --> 00:32:56,891
- It was so fun to see it.
572
00:32:56,974 --> 00:32:58,559
It was so fun to see everyone
573
00:32:58,643 --> 00:33:01,229
separately but together
in the same video.
574
00:33:01,312 --> 00:33:03,481
And Lance was the thread
that brought it all in.
575
00:33:03,564 --> 00:33:06,859
And when I saw my part,
I thought it was super cool.
576
00:33:06,943 --> 00:33:09,028
I just couldn't believe
that he had managed
577
00:33:09,112 --> 00:33:11,239
to make it all work together.
578
00:33:11,322 --> 00:33:13,616
And he's putting things
in slo-mo.
579
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:15,493
I mean, it just felt like...
580
00:33:15,576 --> 00:33:17,161
Like it was my birthday party.
581
00:33:26,963 --> 00:33:30,925
- Caballero and Tony were
always in the top five,
582
00:33:31,008 --> 00:33:32,927
and I was kind of
fading a bit, you know?
583
00:33:33,010 --> 00:33:35,388
And I was just finding it
harder and harder
584
00:33:35,471 --> 00:33:37,098
to get up into that top ten.
585
00:33:37,181 --> 00:33:39,225
And I'm like, "Oh, I guess
this is it for me.
586
00:33:39,308 --> 00:33:41,519
I need something,
you know, that's"...
587
00:33:41,602 --> 00:33:43,604
So I started going
to some of these camps,
588
00:33:43,688 --> 00:33:45,565
you know, helping to teach.
589
00:33:45,648 --> 00:33:49,527
And at one Swedish camp,
I, you know, made this trick
590
00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:53,239
called the McTwist,
which is a 540.
591
00:33:53,322 --> 00:33:56,117
People would ask me,
"What is that, Mike?"
592
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,620
- Mike McGill came
to a Del Mar contest,
593
00:33:59,704 --> 00:34:02,749
and there was all this buzz
that he had a new trick.
594
00:34:02,832 --> 00:34:06,461
And people were purposely
not telling me what it was,
595
00:34:06,544 --> 00:34:09,380
because they thought somehow
I was gonna learn it.
596
00:34:09,464 --> 00:34:13,342
Mike shows up,
and first day of practice,
597
00:34:13,426 --> 00:34:14,510
he does a McTwist.
598
00:34:16,721 --> 00:34:19,474
Full 1 1/2 somersault
in the air,
599
00:34:19,557 --> 00:34:22,268
coming down forward,
going backside direction,
600
00:34:22,351 --> 00:34:25,605
which means you're totally
blind to your landing zone.
601
00:34:25,688 --> 00:34:28,399
And it was just like,
"What happened?
602
00:34:28,483 --> 00:34:31,778
Were you training
with gymnasts?"
603
00:34:31,861 --> 00:34:33,279
I knew then and there
604
00:34:33,362 --> 00:34:35,281
that I was gonna have
to learn it.
605
00:34:35,364 --> 00:34:38,409
- There's a few tricks that
have been chased for years.
606
00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:40,661
And it was one that everyone
knew could be possible,
607
00:34:40,745 --> 00:34:42,288
but no one knew how to do it
608
00:34:42,371 --> 00:34:45,082
or try it or even have
the guts to try it right.
609
00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:47,210
And it took McGill to do it,
which was,
610
00:34:47,293 --> 00:34:48,753
you got to do it 6 foot out.
611
00:34:48,836 --> 00:34:50,004
You can't do it low.
612
00:34:50,087 --> 00:34:52,381
Everyone was trying it low
to figure it out.
613
00:34:52,465 --> 00:34:55,510
And you had to have the actual
wherewithal to, like,
614
00:34:55,593 --> 00:34:58,221
"Oh, I've got to launch
into the sky
615
00:34:58,304 --> 00:34:59,931
and see what happens."
616
00:35:00,014 --> 00:35:01,557
- That kind of spiraled me
617
00:35:01,641 --> 00:35:05,770
and put me in the top five
every contest.
618
00:35:05,853 --> 00:35:07,230
- You developed the McTwist.
619
00:35:07,313 --> 00:35:08,874
Are you gonna be able to
pull that off here in this...
620
00:35:08,898 --> 00:35:10,608
- Uh, hopefully.
621
00:35:10,691 --> 00:35:12,610
- When I did try it,
622
00:35:12,693 --> 00:35:15,279
I realized how much harder it is
623
00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:16,781
than I thought it would be.
624
00:35:16,864 --> 00:35:18,991
I didn't come close.
625
00:35:19,075 --> 00:35:20,827
I couldn't see my landing zone.
626
00:35:20,910 --> 00:35:23,663
I don't even know if I had
a good hold on my board.
627
00:35:23,746 --> 00:35:25,832
- I can imagine how hard
you slam on that trick,
628
00:35:25,915 --> 00:35:27,267
'cause you're just
spinning freely,
629
00:35:27,291 --> 00:35:29,585
and if you overturn,
it's done, dude.
630
00:35:32,755 --> 00:35:36,217
- I was hyper-focused,
obsessed with the trick.
631
00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:38,386
I had to figure it out.
632
00:35:38,469 --> 00:35:40,513
I remember being in school
633
00:35:40,596 --> 00:35:43,432
and just knowing
the bell's gonna ring
634
00:35:43,516 --> 00:35:44,785
and I'm going
straight to the park
635
00:35:44,809 --> 00:35:45,893
and trying McTwists.
636
00:35:45,977 --> 00:35:48,646
That was the only thing
I was focused on.
637
00:35:48,729 --> 00:35:51,607
I started getting the spin
more consistent.
638
00:35:51,691 --> 00:35:53,860
I started seeing
the landing zone,
639
00:35:53,943 --> 00:35:55,528
and then it was
pretty obvious, like,
640
00:35:55,611 --> 00:35:57,238
well, there's only
one more stage,
641
00:35:57,321 --> 00:36:00,324
and that's just that you got
to suck it up and land.
642
00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:01,909
- How hard was that trick
to learn?
643
00:36:01,993 --> 00:36:02,993
- Simple.
644
00:36:03,035 --> 00:36:04,620
- Simple?
- Mm-hmm.
645
00:36:04,704 --> 00:36:07,039
It's not technique.
It's balls.
646
00:36:07,123 --> 00:36:08,392
And I have no problem
spinning it,
647
00:36:08,416 --> 00:36:10,501
but do I want to set it down?
648
00:36:10,585 --> 00:36:13,379
That's all just guts.
649
00:36:31,856 --> 00:36:34,066
- The 540 was the trick
650
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:35,568
that you needed
to win competitions,
651
00:36:35,651 --> 00:36:37,194
and once you learned that trick,
652
00:36:37,278 --> 00:36:38,654
you were in top three.
653
00:36:38,738 --> 00:36:40,698
- Did you attempt them?
654
00:36:40,781 --> 00:36:42,408
- I thought about doing them.
655
00:36:42,491 --> 00:36:46,245
And then I did some low stuff
like Tony used to do.
656
00:36:46,329 --> 00:36:47,514
And I just started trying to...
657
00:36:47,538 --> 00:36:48,998
And it was just like, "No way."
658
00:36:49,081 --> 00:36:51,542
So I couldn't do it.
I just backed out.
659
00:36:51,626 --> 00:36:53,628
I was like,
"It's not gonna work.
660
00:36:53,711 --> 00:36:56,255
- Neil Blender, are you gonna
make the finals tomorrow?
661
00:36:56,339 --> 00:36:57,339
- No.
662
00:36:57,381 --> 00:36:59,717
They just called them out.
Didn't even make it.
663
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,011
Should've seen me,
falling all over the bowl.
664
00:37:02,094 --> 00:37:03,971
- There was contests
I couldn't skate at all,
665
00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:06,599
and I'd just do, "Oh,
I'll do an axis ollie 540."
666
00:37:06,682 --> 00:37:08,559
Made the cut. Whew.
667
00:37:08,643 --> 00:37:11,145
Money, done.
Paid.
668
00:37:11,228 --> 00:37:12,813
Buy diapers.
Done deal.
669
00:37:12,897 --> 00:37:14,231
- And it just became
670
00:37:14,315 --> 00:37:16,108
this proving ground,
where it was just like,
671
00:37:16,192 --> 00:37:18,361
"Are you doing a McTwist
or not?"
672
00:37:18,444 --> 00:37:20,947
'Cause this is where
we're all going towards.
673
00:37:40,424 --> 00:37:41,842
- Okay, next skater up,
674
00:37:41,926 --> 00:37:43,678
Christian Hosoi.
675
00:37:45,930 --> 00:37:47,848
- Christian was a showman.
676
00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:49,892
He could show up
with his shirt off,
677
00:37:49,976 --> 00:37:51,686
dangling out of his back pocket,
678
00:37:51,769 --> 00:37:53,437
and the crowd was with him.
679
00:37:55,940 --> 00:37:57,942
It was all style and air
with Christian,
680
00:37:58,025 --> 00:38:00,319
and it was all technical
and tricks with me,
681
00:38:00,403 --> 00:38:02,655
and people had to choose.
682
00:38:02,738 --> 00:38:04,448
- There was a contest
at Del Mar.
683
00:38:04,532 --> 00:38:09,370
The fans were like, you know,
"Hosoi, Hosoi, Hosoi!"
684
00:38:09,453 --> 00:38:10,830
- Next up, Tony Hawk,
685
00:38:10,913 --> 00:38:12,557
riding for Powell-Peralta
and Tracker Trucks.
686
00:38:12,581 --> 00:38:13,874
Tony, whenever you're ready.
687
00:38:15,501 --> 00:38:19,547
- Whenever I would go,
they would just be booing.
688
00:38:19,630 --> 00:38:21,590
- You know, at his home park
at Del Mar,
689
00:38:21,674 --> 00:38:25,219
I thought, you know,
the crowd was pretty rough.
690
00:38:25,302 --> 00:38:28,264
Christian! Christian!
Christian!
691
00:38:28,347 --> 00:38:30,766
Christian! Christian!
Christian!
692
00:38:30,850 --> 00:38:34,353
Christian! Christian!
Christian! Christian!
693
00:38:34,437 --> 00:38:36,188
- These guys are just
getting mad at him,
694
00:38:36,272 --> 00:38:38,107
because they're
seeing him do tricks.
695
00:38:38,190 --> 00:38:39,734
Like, they want to see
some older shit,
696
00:38:39,817 --> 00:38:41,217
a long lip slide
or something, like,
697
00:38:41,277 --> 00:38:42,903
and it's just not gonna happen.
698
00:38:42,987 --> 00:38:47,033
They were pissed, throwing
beer cans and whatever else.
699
00:38:47,116 --> 00:38:49,535
- I fell on one of the runs
near the end.
700
00:38:49,618 --> 00:38:52,329
And I fell near this beer can.
701
00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:54,331
Like, I almost slid into it.
702
00:38:54,415 --> 00:38:57,585
And I was just like, "Really?"
703
00:38:57,668 --> 00:39:00,129
And so I grabbed it,
and I went to throw it
704
00:39:00,212 --> 00:39:01,857
back at them,
and I was just like, "Am I...
705
00:39:01,881 --> 00:39:04,425
"I can't...
I can't play this game.
706
00:39:04,508 --> 00:39:06,635
"I'm gonna lose no matter what.
707
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,846
"I'm never gonna be seen
by these guys
708
00:39:08,929 --> 00:39:10,598
"as legitimate or cool.
709
00:39:10,681 --> 00:39:13,768
And I just gotta suck it up
and do my own thing."
710
00:39:15,144 --> 00:39:17,438
- 96.666.
711
00:39:17,521 --> 00:39:20,691
- I don't think
that people understand
712
00:39:20,775 --> 00:39:22,401
that when you're skateboarding,
713
00:39:22,485 --> 00:39:25,446
it becomes an expression
of who you are, your identity.
714
00:39:25,529 --> 00:39:28,616
How you are embraced as a person
715
00:39:28,699 --> 00:39:31,577
is who you are.
716
00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:36,082
That stuff is all on the line
during those contests.
717
00:39:36,165 --> 00:39:38,417
- All that noise,
I was just like,
718
00:39:38,501 --> 00:39:39,644
"All right, I'm just gonna...
719
00:39:39,668 --> 00:39:41,003
Head down,
I'm gonna do the work."
720
00:39:41,087 --> 00:39:42,171
- And he came in,
721
00:39:42,254 --> 00:39:45,424
and he just took it out on 'em.
722
00:39:46,592 --> 00:39:49,136
He was just focused.
723
00:40:55,286 --> 00:40:57,371
- 93.000.
724
00:40:57,454 --> 00:40:58,664
Tony Hawk is the winner!
725
00:41:07,923 --> 00:41:10,384
- When I finally started
to have some success
726
00:41:10,467 --> 00:41:11,886
in competition,
727
00:41:11,969 --> 00:41:14,889
I was getting blasted
in the magazines.
728
00:41:14,972 --> 00:41:16,852
"Thrasher" would write
that there was favoritism
729
00:41:16,891 --> 00:41:17,808
in the competitions
730
00:41:17,892 --> 00:41:19,202
'cause my dad
was helping running it
731
00:41:19,226 --> 00:41:21,395
and the finals were
always at Del Mar
732
00:41:21,478 --> 00:41:22,396
and that's my local park,
733
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,440
and so the whole thing was
just made for me.
734
00:41:24,523 --> 00:41:26,692
He's daddy's boy.
735
00:41:26,775 --> 00:41:29,111
- It was very easy
for all the skaters to think
736
00:41:29,195 --> 00:41:31,489
that somehow Frank Hawk's
pulling the strings.
737
00:41:31,572 --> 00:41:34,241
Really easy to do that.
He couldn't.
738
00:41:34,325 --> 00:41:36,744
You know, all he did
was organize this thing.
739
00:41:36,827 --> 00:41:38,621
- Even I did it at some point,
you know?
740
00:41:38,704 --> 00:41:41,540
I was like, "Wait a minute.
Your son's in the last heat.
741
00:41:41,624 --> 00:41:42,767
How come
I'm in the first heat?"
742
00:41:42,791 --> 00:41:45,085
- It was just hard.
It was hard being an outcast.
743
00:41:45,169 --> 00:41:48,088
It was hard being a skater
744
00:41:48,172 --> 00:41:50,591
whose style no one appreciated.
745
00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:54,261
And then my dad just added
to that formula,
746
00:41:54,345 --> 00:41:56,185
and it was just, like...
I was just ostracized.
747
00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:09,068
I just felt that his presence
was too intrusive
748
00:42:09,151 --> 00:42:13,239
and was affecting me
and my relationships so much
749
00:42:13,322 --> 00:42:17,868
that there was no escape
from it unless he backed off.
750
00:42:19,328 --> 00:42:20,955
Finally I just told him,
you know,
751
00:42:21,038 --> 00:42:22,998
"I don't like it
when you're at the events.
752
00:42:23,082 --> 00:42:25,584
It's way harder for me."
753
00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:26,794
He didn't take it well.
754
00:42:26,877 --> 00:42:28,212
He wasn't... it wasn't...
755
00:42:28,295 --> 00:42:29,797
There was not gonna be
a compromise.
756
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,966
His answer was basically,
757
00:42:32,049 --> 00:42:33,592
"Well, then I just won't...
I won't go.
758
00:42:33,676 --> 00:42:34,819
"I just won't do these events.
759
00:42:34,843 --> 00:42:36,196
You just want me
not to be in there at all?"
760
00:42:36,220 --> 00:42:39,014
And I'm like, "Well..."
761
00:42:39,098 --> 00:42:42,142
Things got icy between us,
and at the next event,
762
00:42:42,226 --> 00:42:45,062
he purposely tried
to keep his distance.
763
00:42:45,145 --> 00:42:47,106
And I guess that's the best
I could hope for
764
00:42:47,189 --> 00:42:49,275
without him quitting altogether.
765
00:42:49,358 --> 00:42:51,026
- Now, you're the father
of Tony Hawk.
766
00:42:51,110 --> 00:42:52,462
How does it feel
when you see your son
767
00:42:52,486 --> 00:42:53,696
go in there and compete?
768
00:42:53,779 --> 00:42:55,281
- Oh, I'm thrilled to death.
769
00:42:55,364 --> 00:42:57,950
I have to kind of force myself
to keep subdued
770
00:42:58,033 --> 00:43:00,494
so I don't let people think
I'm giving him an advantage
771
00:43:00,577 --> 00:43:01,745
in a contest or something.
772
00:43:01,829 --> 00:43:04,748
So when we get to a contest,
we're strangers to each other.
773
00:43:04,832 --> 00:43:06,667
But I'm very proud of him.
774
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,756
- I think I was 15 or 16.
775
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,800
My mom moved to Arizona
776
00:43:14,883 --> 00:43:18,679
to pursue her doctorate
in business education.
777
00:43:18,762 --> 00:43:20,723
And so she was gone.
778
00:43:22,057 --> 00:43:24,810
It definitely changed
the dynamic in the household.
779
00:43:26,020 --> 00:43:28,856
One day, he came in
and he just said,
780
00:43:28,939 --> 00:43:30,583
"Hey, Tony, I think
I'm having chest pains.
781
00:43:30,607 --> 00:43:32,901
"I think... you know,
I don't know,
782
00:43:32,985 --> 00:43:35,904
"but it feels like
something's wrong.
783
00:43:35,988 --> 00:43:38,699
I think we need
to call an ambulance."
784
00:43:38,782 --> 00:43:41,994
And I kind of freaked out,
'cause I thought,
785
00:43:42,077 --> 00:43:44,663
"I'm here alone with my dad."
786
00:43:44,747 --> 00:43:48,167
We never had any conversations
787
00:43:48,250 --> 00:43:50,919
that were deep or loving.
788
00:43:51,003 --> 00:43:52,880
And so I told him,
I just... you know,
789
00:43:52,963 --> 00:43:54,631
"I want you to know
that I'm thankful
790
00:43:54,715 --> 00:43:58,052
for everything you did for me,
and I love you."
791
00:43:58,135 --> 00:44:02,389
And he said, "I know you do."
792
00:44:05,517 --> 00:44:08,062
The hardest part
about that whole scenario
793
00:44:08,145 --> 00:44:10,397
was taking him to the hospital
794
00:44:10,481 --> 00:44:13,817
and then coming home.
795
00:44:13,901 --> 00:44:16,528
And I was truly alone.
796
00:44:18,072 --> 00:44:20,699
And I was... and my mom was gone.
797
00:44:20,783 --> 00:44:24,078
And then I just didn't
really know what to do.
798
00:44:26,955 --> 00:44:32,294
- What ultimately happened is...
Was a bypass.
799
00:44:32,378 --> 00:44:36,006
My dad changed his habits a bit.
800
00:44:36,090 --> 00:44:37,290
You know, he was walking more.
801
00:44:37,341 --> 00:44:39,385
He was... changed his diet
a little bit.
802
00:44:39,468 --> 00:44:42,054
But then he just gradually
got back
803
00:44:42,137 --> 00:44:45,974
to the same kind of old Frank.
804
00:44:46,058 --> 00:44:47,476
- Did you all try to talk to him
805
00:44:47,559 --> 00:44:49,770
and get him to be healthier
and...
806
00:44:49,853 --> 00:44:52,356
- No. I didn't.
807
00:44:52,439 --> 00:44:53,690
No.
808
00:44:56,985 --> 00:45:00,948
- Tony's training ground was
the Del Mar skateboard park.
809
00:45:01,031 --> 00:45:02,449
The pool was a vertical pool,
810
00:45:02,533 --> 00:45:04,910
but the left wall
wasn't quite so vertical.
811
00:45:04,993 --> 00:45:07,871
It was almost like
a beautiful transition,
812
00:45:07,955 --> 00:45:10,207
so it was a perfect place
to learn tricks.
813
00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:12,167
And that seemed to be the place
814
00:45:12,251 --> 00:45:15,129
Tony did all of his
most difficult tricks.
815
00:45:15,212 --> 00:45:17,172
- That's where I skated my best.
816
00:45:17,256 --> 00:45:18,674
I had it dialed.
I had it wired.
817
00:45:18,757 --> 00:45:20,259
And when I would go
to other parks,
818
00:45:20,342 --> 00:45:21,510
I was out of place.
819
00:45:21,593 --> 00:45:22,803
I didn't have confidence.
820
00:45:22,886 --> 00:45:25,305
I didn't know how to use
the transitions.
821
00:45:39,570 --> 00:45:43,991
- Most of his adversaries
skated Upland,
822
00:45:44,074 --> 00:45:47,619
a really, really deep,
big, giant pool.
823
00:45:47,703 --> 00:45:48,996
- Upland was considered
824
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:50,581
the gnarliest pool at the time.
825
00:45:50,664 --> 00:45:52,583
Like, if you did well
in an Upland contest,
826
00:45:52,666 --> 00:45:54,418
you got the respect
of the skate industry
827
00:45:54,501 --> 00:45:56,170
and the hard-core skaters.
828
00:45:56,253 --> 00:45:58,130
- That's a really
challenging pool,
829
00:45:58,213 --> 00:45:59,590
'cause it's a square pool
830
00:45:59,673 --> 00:46:02,050
and a round pool
and a radical hip.
831
00:46:02,134 --> 00:46:04,386
It's a really,
really tricky place.
832
00:46:08,307 --> 00:46:09,516
- It's just scary.
833
00:46:14,313 --> 00:46:16,648
If you're gonna ride Upland,
you got to go for it.
834
00:46:16,732 --> 00:46:19,359
You can't just phone it in.
You can't cruise it.
835
00:46:19,443 --> 00:46:21,361
You gotta put yourself at risk.
836
00:46:29,036 --> 00:46:31,747
- Tony knew this contest
was coming up,
837
00:46:31,830 --> 00:46:34,166
and it was a huge contest.
838
00:46:34,249 --> 00:46:36,710
- I made it my mission
to get used to the pool,
839
00:46:36,793 --> 00:46:38,545
and I drove up there
every weekend.
840
00:46:38,629 --> 00:46:40,881
It was the first time
I truly worked
841
00:46:40,964 --> 00:46:43,050
at getting used
to different terrain
842
00:46:43,133 --> 00:46:44,676
to prove myself beyond
843
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,720
being this one-trick pony
at Del Mar.
844
00:46:51,892 --> 00:46:53,572
- Tony, you're the big winner
from Del Mar.
845
00:46:53,602 --> 00:46:54,954
Do you think
you'll be able to do it?
846
00:46:54,978 --> 00:46:55,978
- I don't know.
847
00:46:56,021 --> 00:46:57,540
I'm having a pretty tough time
in this pool.
848
00:46:57,564 --> 00:46:59,358
- What makes this one
different from Del Mar?
849
00:46:59,441 --> 00:47:00,710
- Well, it's got
a lot more vert,
850
00:47:00,734 --> 00:47:02,569
and it's a lot rougher
851
00:47:02,653 --> 00:47:05,030
and big coping,
so it's harder to ride.
852
00:47:05,113 --> 00:47:06,031
- Big coping.
853
00:47:06,114 --> 00:47:07,866
Who's your toughest competition?
854
00:47:07,950 --> 00:47:09,576
- Shoot.
855
00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:11,537
I'd stay Stevie,
Lance, Christian.
856
00:47:11,620 --> 00:47:13,705
Psh, all those guys.
857
00:47:13,789 --> 00:47:14,974
- Well, good luck
on your competition.
858
00:47:14,998 --> 00:47:15,999
- Thanks.
859
00:47:17,251 --> 00:47:18,451
- Let's hear it for Tony Hawk!
860
00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:31,265
- I had a run that was
sort of my safety run,
861
00:47:31,348 --> 00:47:33,809
where it was good, but didn't
have all the tricks.
862
00:47:33,892 --> 00:47:37,729
- The score is up.
81.81.00.
863
00:47:37,813 --> 00:47:39,690
- Who's the person
to beat this time?
864
00:47:39,773 --> 00:47:42,985
- Uh, A lot of people.
Chris Miller.
865
00:47:43,068 --> 00:47:45,237
- Chris Miller
was the local favorite,
866
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,239
the best skater in that pool.
867
00:47:50,325 --> 00:47:52,202
He hung up
and knocked himself out.
868
00:47:58,667 --> 00:48:01,336
- Score is up.
80.00.
869
00:48:05,882 --> 00:48:08,302
- 81.0 for Stevie Caballero.
870
00:48:10,596 --> 00:48:12,639
- And we have Lance Mountain
on the way.
871
00:48:12,723 --> 00:48:14,975
Score's 83.33.
872
00:48:15,058 --> 00:48:17,686
Let's hear it.
Lance Mountain. 83.33.
873
00:48:26,570 --> 00:48:30,282
- On my second run, I landed
super low on a McTwist
874
00:48:30,365 --> 00:48:32,951
and then ended up
kind of screwing up my speed.
875
00:48:33,035 --> 00:48:35,621
- Score 81.66.
876
00:48:35,704 --> 00:48:37,789
That wraps up the second round.
877
00:48:37,873 --> 00:48:40,167
- Came down to the last runs.
878
00:48:40,250 --> 00:48:42,002
And then on my fourth run,
879
00:48:42,085 --> 00:48:43,879
I did exactly
what I came there to do.
880
00:48:43,962 --> 00:48:45,213
- This is Tony Hawk,
881
00:48:45,297 --> 00:48:46,673
going down for round number two.
882
00:48:46,757 --> 00:48:48,717
Let's hear it.
Tony Hawk!
883
00:49:00,437 --> 00:49:03,023
- The combinations
that he did were amazing.
884
00:49:03,106 --> 00:49:04,316
Amazing.
885
00:49:06,777 --> 00:49:08,337
- Skating the hardest parts
of the pool,
886
00:49:08,362 --> 00:49:10,113
sliding around the corners.
887
00:49:22,084 --> 00:49:26,546
I felt so at ease and confident
888
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:29,049
that I was singing in my run
889
00:49:29,132 --> 00:49:31,259
the song that was playing
over the loudspeaker.
890
00:49:31,343 --> 00:49:33,095
"She Goes to Finos," Toy Dolls.
891
00:49:56,118 --> 00:49:58,036
- It was like Luke Skywalker
892
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,541
going in to take out
Darth Vader at the Death Star.
893
00:50:02,624 --> 00:50:05,043
- Incredible.
894
00:50:05,127 --> 00:50:09,131
Score 85.66.
85.66.
895
00:50:11,341 --> 00:50:14,803
- He won a contest
that nobody in skateboarding
896
00:50:14,886 --> 00:50:18,682
ever expected him to win,
ever, under any circumstances.
897
00:50:18,765 --> 00:50:21,059
- And that's when
a lot of people shut up
898
00:50:21,143 --> 00:50:22,144
about my style,
899
00:50:22,227 --> 00:50:25,605
about me only being good
at Del Mar.
900
00:50:25,689 --> 00:50:27,524
- To me, that's maybe
the biggest,
901
00:50:27,607 --> 00:50:29,526
most important win of his life.
902
00:50:29,609 --> 00:50:32,279
Once you can win there,
you can win anywhere.
903
00:50:34,156 --> 00:50:37,409
That was the beginning
of his launch
904
00:50:37,492 --> 00:50:38,702
to become Tony Hawk.
905
00:50:51,715 --> 00:50:54,217
- He grew taller than all of us.
906
00:50:54,301 --> 00:50:58,513
His tricks got bigger,
and his airs got higher.
907
00:51:06,563 --> 00:51:08,607
- Do you have a favorite skater?
908
00:51:08,690 --> 00:51:10,650
- Tony Hawk.
- Tony Hawk?
909
00:51:10,734 --> 00:51:12,778
- Tony Hawk.
- Oh, very good.
910
00:51:16,114 --> 00:51:19,075
- Tony was obviously
gonna be a threat.
911
00:51:19,159 --> 00:51:20,285
People saw that.
912
00:51:20,368 --> 00:51:22,287
Even if it took five years
to get there.
913
00:51:27,876 --> 00:51:29,336
- All of a sudden, he started
914
00:51:29,419 --> 00:51:31,171
just winning all these contests.
915
00:51:31,254 --> 00:51:33,381
Now he's got these tricks.
Now he's got this trick.
916
00:51:33,465 --> 00:51:35,675
He has every trick
going on and more.
917
00:51:35,759 --> 00:51:37,844
- Hawk!
Tony Hawk!
918
00:51:42,849 --> 00:51:45,227
- He was coming up
with a fantastic run,
919
00:51:45,310 --> 00:51:47,395
and then all of a sudden,
he'd one-up himself.
920
00:51:51,066 --> 00:51:52,818
- At every contest,
there'd be, like,
921
00:51:52,901 --> 00:51:54,486
three new tricks.
922
00:51:54,569 --> 00:51:57,697
He's spinning, he's varialing,
he's doing finger flips.
923
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:06,706
- Here I am, I'm just trying
to go higher, farther, faster,
924
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:09,543
'cause I have to keep up
with Tony.
925
00:52:21,429 --> 00:52:25,016
- Taking home $2,000
is Tony Hawk!
926
00:52:44,619 --> 00:52:46,079
- Tony's the youngest
skateboarder
927
00:52:46,162 --> 00:52:47,163
on the Bones Brigade.
928
00:52:47,247 --> 00:52:51,167
So suddenly,
he's beating his idols...
929
00:52:51,251 --> 00:52:54,045
Caballero, McGill, Lance.
930
00:52:54,129 --> 00:52:57,215
They used to kill him.
Now he's above 'em.
931
00:53:07,017 --> 00:53:09,978
- First place goes to Tony Hawk!
932
00:53:10,061 --> 00:53:12,022
3,000 bucks!
933
00:53:16,318 --> 00:53:17,652
- What's it gonna take to win?
934
00:53:17,736 --> 00:53:19,171
You're gonna have to beat
Tony Hawk, you know.
935
00:53:19,195 --> 00:53:21,531
He's number one right now.
936
00:53:41,551 --> 00:53:43,887
- He would go basically win...
937
00:53:43,970 --> 00:53:45,156
I don't know
what the record was,
938
00:53:45,180 --> 00:53:46,348
but pretty much everything.
939
00:53:46,431 --> 00:53:47,974
And everybody'd be stoked.
940
00:53:48,058 --> 00:53:49,476
And maybe he would be lit up
941
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:53,647
for long enough to take
the team photos or whatever.
942
00:53:53,730 --> 00:53:55,970
But then you could immediately
see the wheels turning of,
943
00:53:56,024 --> 00:53:59,277
"Yeah,
but I should have done this."
944
00:53:59,361 --> 00:54:01,112
And he would go
right back to it.
945
00:54:03,198 --> 00:54:06,117
- I was singularly focused
on skating
946
00:54:06,201 --> 00:54:08,119
and doing well at the events
947
00:54:08,203 --> 00:54:11,081
because that was
the only road to success.
948
00:54:11,164 --> 00:54:15,669
It probably affected
my emotional connections
949
00:54:15,752 --> 00:54:18,338
because I couldn't think
of anything else.
950
00:54:18,421 --> 00:54:21,216
I was obligated to go
to all the competitions,
951
00:54:21,299 --> 00:54:23,009
nonstop on the road.
952
00:54:23,093 --> 00:54:25,887
I had a formula
where I'd create a routine,
953
00:54:25,971 --> 00:54:28,011
I had these backup tricks
that I was gonna do later,
954
00:54:28,056 --> 00:54:29,416
and then I just started
doing that,
955
00:54:29,474 --> 00:54:31,851
and it was like
I was just a machine.
956
00:54:31,935 --> 00:54:33,353
- You feeling
any excess pressure
957
00:54:33,436 --> 00:54:34,729
now that you're in first place,
958
00:54:34,813 --> 00:54:36,731
or do you think
that's the better place to be?
959
00:54:36,815 --> 00:54:37,899
- Oh, I don't know.
960
00:54:37,983 --> 00:54:41,528
I mean, I guess I feel really
happy that I did that run
961
00:54:41,611 --> 00:54:43,488
and I'm in first with it,
but I don't know.
962
00:54:43,571 --> 00:54:45,490
I'm just gonna do my best,
and if I do my best
963
00:54:45,573 --> 00:54:48,326
and I don't even win,
that's okay with me.
964
00:54:48,410 --> 00:54:52,414
It got to the point where
it was somewhat repetitive
965
00:54:52,497 --> 00:54:56,543
and just methodical
966
00:54:56,626 --> 00:54:58,920
and robotic,
967
00:54:59,004 --> 00:55:00,922
where I came in and it was like,
968
00:55:01,006 --> 00:55:02,132
"I'm gonna have to do this.
969
00:55:02,215 --> 00:55:04,050
"I'm gonna have to go
this much further,
970
00:55:04,134 --> 00:55:05,319
"because now they're judging me
971
00:55:05,343 --> 00:55:06,886
"on what they saw me do
last time.
972
00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:08,722
So I gotta take it
one step further."
973
00:55:08,805 --> 00:55:11,891
And I became a machine.
974
00:55:11,975 --> 00:55:15,562
And it really did
suck the fun out of it.
975
00:55:15,645 --> 00:55:17,522
Other skaters
would tell me, like,
976
00:55:17,605 --> 00:55:18,940
while we're practicing,
977
00:55:19,024 --> 00:55:20,734
"Man, I just want
to get second."
978
00:55:20,817 --> 00:55:24,571
And I just took it
as I didn't have any peers.
979
00:55:25,572 --> 00:55:27,157
It was just isolating.
It was a bummer.
980
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:28,366
I can't explain it.
981
00:55:28,450 --> 00:55:30,785
You know, the whole thing,
it's lonely at the top... it is.
982
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,463
- I think it's a quote
from Nietzsche's "Zarathustra."
983
00:55:41,546 --> 00:55:42,982
"You make it up
to the top of a mountain,
984
00:55:43,006 --> 00:55:44,632
and what's left for me
but lightning?"
985
00:55:50,180 --> 00:55:54,100
- With all of the things
that were coming to him,
986
00:55:54,184 --> 00:55:55,769
his father being at contests
987
00:55:55,852 --> 00:55:57,687
and the commotion
that his father causes
988
00:55:57,771 --> 00:55:59,481
with all the other
skateboarders,
989
00:55:59,564 --> 00:56:01,483
people blaming Tony for winning
990
00:56:01,566 --> 00:56:03,234
because his father's
setting it up,
991
00:56:03,318 --> 00:56:05,236
people calling him
a clown skater
992
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,571
because of the tricks he does,
993
00:56:06,654 --> 00:56:08,507
people saying, "You don't
deserve to be doing this.
994
00:56:08,531 --> 00:56:10,575
Christian should be winning,"
995
00:56:10,658 --> 00:56:14,746
and at the same time,
achieving his dream.
996
00:56:14,829 --> 00:56:16,998
He achieved his dream.
997
00:56:17,082 --> 00:56:18,442
And he got up there
and he realized
998
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:20,710
how lonely it is.
999
00:56:20,794 --> 00:56:23,588
- I felt like I was
losing myself,
1000
00:56:23,671 --> 00:56:25,673
losing my passion.
1001
00:56:25,757 --> 00:56:31,304
None of the money or fame
or success was worth that.
1002
00:56:31,387 --> 00:56:32,514
- Skating very well today.
1003
00:56:32,597 --> 00:56:36,309
- Um, not as well as I want to.
1004
00:56:36,392 --> 00:56:38,853
- The heat bothering you?
- Not so much that.
1005
00:56:38,937 --> 00:56:42,065
I'm just not really feeling
like skating right now.
1006
00:56:42,148 --> 00:56:43,149
- He just decided
1007
00:56:43,233 --> 00:56:45,443
that he didn't want
to compete anymore.
1008
00:56:45,527 --> 00:56:47,612
- I told my brother
how I was feeling.
1009
00:56:47,695 --> 00:56:48,780
He was really the only one
1010
00:56:48,863 --> 00:56:51,116
I felt like I could confide in.
1011
00:56:51,199 --> 00:56:53,785
He said,
"You gotta tell Stacy."
1012
00:56:53,868 --> 00:56:57,372
- Tony was seriously
in a catatonic state
1013
00:56:57,455 --> 00:56:59,207
when he arrived at my house.
1014
00:56:59,290 --> 00:57:01,417
He sat there
just looking at me like...
1015
00:57:03,294 --> 00:57:07,549
- You didn't tell Stacy that
you're gonna quit anything.
1016
00:57:07,632 --> 00:57:09,551
Who would do that?
1017
00:57:09,634 --> 00:57:11,678
- Steve proceeded to tell me
1018
00:57:11,761 --> 00:57:15,515
that it had all just become
too much for Tony.
1019
00:57:15,598 --> 00:57:20,228
He wasn't enjoying being
a professional skateboarder.
1020
00:57:22,730 --> 00:57:25,191
I think that's as close
as he's ever gotten,
1021
00:57:25,275 --> 00:57:26,985
that I've seen,
1022
00:57:27,068 --> 00:57:29,612
to dealing with the pain
that's inside of him.
1023
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:40,999
- Driving home, there was
a sense of hopelessness.
1024
00:57:41,082 --> 00:57:44,961
And I didn't really know
what was gonna happen next.
1025
00:57:45,044 --> 00:57:47,297
Stacy told me that Rodney Mullen
1026
00:57:47,380 --> 00:57:49,132
had the same conversation
with him
1027
00:57:49,215 --> 00:57:51,593
about a year prior
to me telling him that.
1028
00:57:51,676 --> 00:57:53,386
And Rodney
had stopped competing.
1029
00:57:53,469 --> 00:57:55,013
I called Rodney,
1030
00:57:55,096 --> 00:57:59,017
and Rodney unloaded everything.
1031
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:00,268
He just said, "You know,
1032
00:58:00,351 --> 00:58:04,189
"I've come to appreciate
the skating more.
1033
00:58:04,272 --> 00:58:06,232
"I'm willing to take
more chances
1034
00:58:06,316 --> 00:58:10,945
and risk not winning,
and that has liberated me."
1035
00:58:11,029 --> 00:58:15,325
And he said,
"Maybe that would help you."
1036
00:58:41,392 --> 00:58:44,020
When I eventually
stopped competing,
1037
00:58:44,103 --> 00:58:47,065
I was like, "Oh, I have
all this freedom now."
1038
00:58:49,651 --> 00:58:52,528
"I'm not beholden
to earning points
1039
00:58:52,612 --> 00:58:54,489
and staying on all the time."
1040
00:58:57,033 --> 00:58:59,452
I had
a totally different approach
1041
00:58:59,535 --> 00:59:02,121
to what I was doing.
1042
00:59:02,205 --> 00:59:05,458
Started getting
much more creative.
1043
00:59:09,837 --> 00:59:11,965
Detachment.
Freedom.
1044
00:59:12,048 --> 00:59:14,801
You can breathe.
1045
00:59:14,884 --> 00:59:17,637
We skate with our hearts.
1046
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:22,433
And... it has its own feelings.
1047
00:59:43,663 --> 00:59:45,164
- Both Tony and Rodney
1048
00:59:45,248 --> 00:59:49,669
talk about the difficulties
of competition.
1049
00:59:49,752 --> 00:59:53,339
But both of those guys
loved competing.
1050
00:59:53,423 --> 00:59:56,009
They were both killers.
1051
00:59:56,092 --> 00:59:58,678
Not just competitors, killers.
1052
00:59:58,761 --> 01:00:00,054
They're not out to beat you.
1053
01:00:00,138 --> 01:00:02,348
They're out to make you afraid
to ever come to them
1054
01:00:02,432 --> 01:00:03,808
and compete with them again.
1055
01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:09,647
Tony may have had
a hard time with it,
1056
01:00:09,731 --> 01:00:12,608
but once he walked away
from competition,
1057
01:00:12,692 --> 01:00:14,068
he couldn't live without it.
1058
01:00:14,152 --> 01:00:16,154
He had to get back in.
1059
01:00:22,243 --> 01:00:24,245
- Eventually found my way
back to it
1060
01:00:24,329 --> 01:00:26,831
with a different attitude,
and I could still make it fun,
1061
01:00:26,914 --> 01:00:28,225
and I could still do it
for a living,
1062
01:00:28,249 --> 01:00:30,376
and that was it.
1063
01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:31,753
That was the turning point.
1064
01:00:42,096 --> 01:00:43,723
- One time
when I lived with Tony,
1065
01:00:43,806 --> 01:00:45,126
it was garbage day,
and I came up,
1066
01:00:45,183 --> 01:00:46,285
and he'd cleaned out the garage.
1067
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:48,019
And he was dragging
this trash can
1068
01:00:48,102 --> 01:00:50,897
down the driveway,
1069
01:00:50,980 --> 01:00:52,207
and there was all these trophies
1070
01:00:52,231 --> 01:00:53,441
poking out of the top.
1071
01:00:53,524 --> 01:00:55,360
Like, he did not care.
1072
01:00:55,443 --> 01:00:57,362
He lost his bag
of X Games medals.
1073
01:00:57,445 --> 01:00:59,864
I mean, he's never, ever cared.
1074
01:00:59,947 --> 01:01:00,947
I've never seen him,
1075
01:01:00,990 --> 01:01:03,034
since I've known him
for 30 years,
1076
01:01:03,117 --> 01:01:04,369
to put any of the trophies up.
1077
01:01:04,452 --> 01:01:06,871
Other people will, but he's
never had a trophy room.
1078
01:01:06,954 --> 01:01:10,375
"That's just a symbol
of one point in time.
1079
01:01:10,458 --> 01:01:12,460
I can't get attached to that."
1080
01:01:31,687 --> 01:01:34,524
- Video was a whole new avenue.
1081
01:01:34,607 --> 01:01:36,567
It's not about competition.
1082
01:01:36,651 --> 01:01:39,737
That eventually outshined
all the contests.
1083
01:01:43,658 --> 01:01:45,576
- Kids are now seeing
how to do it.
1084
01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:47,161
When they'd look at a magazine,
1085
01:01:47,245 --> 01:01:49,098
they'd see a maneuver,
but they didn't understand
1086
01:01:49,122 --> 01:01:50,581
how a kid got from here to there
1087
01:01:50,665 --> 01:01:51,833
or there to here.
1088
01:01:51,916 --> 01:01:54,293
But when they saw the video,
they saw the whole thing.
1089
01:01:54,377 --> 01:01:56,129
So it completely revolutionized
1090
01:01:56,212 --> 01:01:58,172
how kids consumed skateboarding.
1091
01:01:58,256 --> 01:02:00,341
And it really helped
the sport grow.
1092
01:02:05,763 --> 01:02:08,558
- I was 12 years old
when I first got
1093
01:02:08,641 --> 01:02:10,351
a skateboard
and got into skateboarding.
1094
01:02:10,435 --> 01:02:12,645
And it was the boom
of the Bones Brigade,
1095
01:02:12,728 --> 01:02:13,968
and everybody had a skateboard.
1096
01:02:14,021 --> 01:02:16,482
And immediately was attracted
1097
01:02:16,566 --> 01:02:20,153
to the fun of skateboarding
through Lance Mountain
1098
01:02:20,236 --> 01:02:23,614
and the tricks in skateboarding
through Tony Hawk.
1099
01:02:27,869 --> 01:02:29,620
- Oh, those videos
got passed around.
1100
01:02:29,704 --> 01:02:31,956
I mean, people tell me
that they would rent it
1101
01:02:32,039 --> 01:02:33,666
from the shop,
give it to their friend.
1102
01:02:33,749 --> 01:02:36,002
It would break.
They'd tape it back together.
1103
01:02:36,085 --> 01:02:37,628
- That was
the greatest thing ever.
1104
01:02:37,712 --> 01:02:41,215
Like, I just would watch it
over and over and over.
1105
01:02:41,299 --> 01:02:43,342
Like, "There's gonna be
another one?
1106
01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:45,845
What are they gonna do?
How funny is Lance gonna be?"
1107
01:02:45,928 --> 01:02:48,222
Like, you know, "What are
the new tricks like?"
1108
01:02:48,306 --> 01:02:50,475
Stacy was onto something, man.
1109
01:02:50,558 --> 01:02:52,894
Like, there's still
nothing cooler
1110
01:02:52,977 --> 01:02:54,562
than Bones Brigade videos.
1111
01:03:24,217 --> 01:03:25,657
- Animal Chin.
Have you heard of 'em?
1112
01:03:25,718 --> 01:03:27,303
- If you look too hard
for Animal Chin,
1113
01:03:27,386 --> 01:03:28,763
you're never gonna find 'em.
1114
01:03:33,392 --> 01:03:35,144
- Heard about this ramp.
1115
01:03:35,228 --> 01:03:37,271
It's in this field
between two junkyards.
1116
01:03:42,485 --> 01:03:44,570
- You know, Stacy would have
me, Mike,
1117
01:03:44,654 --> 01:03:46,864
and Lance do our parts,
1118
01:03:46,948 --> 01:03:49,700
and then it was Tony's turn.
1119
01:03:55,122 --> 01:03:56,499
- What the hell was that?
1120
01:03:59,377 --> 01:04:03,089
- Oh!
- Insane.
1121
01:04:03,172 --> 01:04:04,590
- I'm like, "Man, this guy's got
1122
01:04:04,674 --> 01:04:06,926
a bag of tricks
that doesn't stop."
1123
01:04:13,641 --> 01:04:16,060
540s were hard enough grabbing,
1124
01:04:16,143 --> 01:04:19,730
but to do it
without grabbing your board...
1125
01:04:19,814 --> 01:04:23,484
- People thought it was
an impossible trick to do.
1126
01:04:23,568 --> 01:04:25,486
When people saw it,
they were like,
1127
01:04:25,570 --> 01:04:27,113
"That's not real."
1128
01:04:40,293 --> 01:04:43,462
- Tony's becoming a superstar
in skateboarding,
1129
01:04:43,546 --> 01:04:47,300
and as a result, we sold
more of his board models
1130
01:04:47,383 --> 01:04:48,968
pretty much every month
1131
01:04:49,051 --> 01:04:50,845
more than anybody else
on the team.
1132
01:04:50,928 --> 01:04:54,473
We could've sold even probably
more than we sold of Tony's.
1133
01:04:54,557 --> 01:04:55,757
- You just didn't make enough.
1134
01:04:55,808 --> 01:04:57,518
- We couldn't make enough.
1135
01:04:57,602 --> 01:04:59,812
- By the time that I was 17,
1136
01:04:59,895 --> 01:05:02,481
I was making
at least six figures
1137
01:05:02,565 --> 01:05:03,774
just from skateboards.
1138
01:05:03,858 --> 01:05:05,109
You get very jaded
1139
01:05:05,192 --> 01:05:06,587
when that kind of money
is coming in.
1140
01:05:06,611 --> 01:05:10,239
And also, I'm not trying
to be responsible with it.
1141
01:05:10,323 --> 01:05:12,450
I'm not saving for the future,
1142
01:05:12,533 --> 01:05:14,452
nor am I saving for taxes.
1143
01:05:14,535 --> 01:05:17,246
And so my dad was the one
1144
01:05:17,330 --> 01:05:18,956
who really guided me
through that
1145
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,335
and was the one
who convinced me to buy a house
1146
01:05:22,418 --> 01:05:24,837
when I was still in high school.
1147
01:05:41,062 --> 01:05:43,814
- Tony and his dad built
all these beautiful ramps.
1148
01:05:43,898 --> 01:05:45,816
I mean,
they were just unbelievable.
1149
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:47,777
His dad was so dedicated.
1150
01:05:47,860 --> 01:05:50,488
- The winningest vertical
skateboard rider in history
1151
01:05:50,571 --> 01:05:52,156
now making
a very comfortable living
1152
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:53,616
as a pro athlete.
1153
01:05:53,699 --> 01:05:56,911
- In this house, they live,
breathe, sleep, talk,
1154
01:05:56,994 --> 01:05:59,163
and eat skateboarding.
1155
01:05:59,246 --> 01:06:01,832
And what you're about to see
are the rewards for a guy
1156
01:06:01,916 --> 01:06:04,001
who's become top of his sport.
1157
01:06:06,003 --> 01:06:08,047
- On Sunday,
I'm signing autographs.
1158
01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:10,716
I am flying home
with an oversized check,
1159
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,385
says $10,000.
1160
01:06:12,468 --> 01:06:15,221
I had to put it up
in the first-class closet.
1161
01:06:15,304 --> 01:06:16,823
And then I go home,
and I gotta wake up
1162
01:06:16,847 --> 01:06:20,559
at 7:00 a.m. next day
and get to school.
1163
01:06:31,278 --> 01:06:34,865
- When we started
traveling around the world,
1164
01:06:34,949 --> 01:06:36,867
we started noticing
there was a lot of people
1165
01:06:36,951 --> 01:06:38,035
showing up to our demos,
1166
01:06:38,119 --> 01:06:40,413
and we were getting
a lot of attention.
1167
01:06:42,123 --> 01:06:45,543
- We're on the road,
and we're in our teens.
1168
01:06:45,626 --> 01:06:48,921
New city every night,
trying to meet girls.
1169
01:06:56,804 --> 01:07:01,809
- When it got big, it was
rock star time and girl time.
1170
01:07:01,892 --> 01:07:04,353
Look at the people
who didn't have ponytails.
1171
01:07:04,437 --> 01:07:06,480
I didn't have a ponytail.
They all did.
1172
01:07:06,564 --> 01:07:08,566
That was a pure sign
that you're stoked,
1173
01:07:08,649 --> 01:07:09,900
that you're a rock star,
1174
01:07:09,984 --> 01:07:11,444
and you're gonna get some girls.
1175
01:07:27,710 --> 01:07:29,879
- It seemed like money
was just raining down,
1176
01:07:29,962 --> 01:07:31,881
and some of the guys
got carried away.
1177
01:07:31,964 --> 01:07:34,800
They were spending crazy.
1178
01:07:34,884 --> 01:07:38,095
At one point,
Powell sent us credit cards.
1179
01:07:38,179 --> 01:07:40,514
We had no idea
how credit cards worked,
1180
01:07:40,598 --> 01:07:42,516
so we just thought
that we could spend money
1181
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,269
and that we wouldn't
get the bill.
1182
01:07:45,352 --> 01:07:47,813
We were buying cameras,
video games.
1183
01:07:47,897 --> 01:07:51,108
I think I bought
a pinball machine.
1184
01:07:51,192 --> 01:07:53,944
I'd be in Japan,
I would just buy boom boxes,
1185
01:07:54,028 --> 01:07:58,157
headphones, and at one point,
I bought a tanning bed.
1186
01:08:03,370 --> 01:08:07,416
- From '87 to '89,
1187
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:09,502
it was salad days.
1188
01:08:09,585 --> 01:08:12,004
It was the heyday.
It was crazy.
1189
01:08:12,087 --> 01:08:17,676
1989, I went on tour
in the U.S. for a month.
1190
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:21,180
Every demo was
thousands of people.
1191
01:08:21,263 --> 01:08:23,682
And then we go to Europe
for six weeks.
1192
01:08:23,766 --> 01:08:25,100
Every crowd was huge.
1193
01:08:25,184 --> 01:08:27,394
We did a demo at Tivoli Gardens.
1194
01:08:27,478 --> 01:08:29,605
The entire amusement park
stopped what they were doing
1195
01:08:29,688 --> 01:08:31,732
to watch us skate.
1196
01:08:31,816 --> 01:08:34,902
And then we'd go to Australia,
in Sydney.
1197
01:08:34,985 --> 01:08:37,404
Vert ramp right
in the middle of the city.
1198
01:08:37,488 --> 01:08:39,949
People were lining the rooftops
1199
01:08:40,032 --> 01:08:42,159
because there was no more room
to watch us.
1200
01:08:43,744 --> 01:08:45,121
- He was really doing well.
1201
01:08:45,204 --> 01:08:47,873
And I was really happy for him.
1202
01:08:47,957 --> 01:08:51,252
And it gave my parents
such bragging rights
1203
01:08:51,335 --> 01:08:52,461
that they couldn't...
1204
01:08:52,545 --> 01:08:55,256
They would stop total strangers
at the airport and say,
1205
01:08:55,339 --> 01:08:58,551
"My son is Tony Hawk.
That's no lie."
1206
01:08:58,634 --> 01:09:01,428
- So life with the alien
is good, huh?
1207
01:09:01,512 --> 01:09:03,389
- So far.
So far, so good.
1208
01:09:03,472 --> 01:09:06,058
- Well, we all wish you
many luck and happiness, and...
1209
01:09:06,141 --> 01:09:09,103
- I was 22. Cindy was 24.
1210
01:09:09,186 --> 01:09:10,896
We were living together.
1211
01:09:10,980 --> 01:09:14,859
We decided the next stage
would be to get married.
1212
01:09:14,942 --> 01:09:17,027
Suddenly, I'm married,
1213
01:09:17,111 --> 01:09:19,864
I have a kid on the way,
I have two mortgages,
1214
01:09:19,947 --> 01:09:22,825
and I was just thrust
into adulthood.
1215
01:09:22,908 --> 01:09:25,411
And little did I know
1216
01:09:25,494 --> 01:09:29,206
that that income
wasn't gonna last.
1217
01:09:29,290 --> 01:09:32,585
- Skateboarding is cyclical.
It's a cyclical business.
1218
01:09:32,668 --> 01:09:37,256
It was big from '73 to '79.
1219
01:09:37,339 --> 01:09:41,510
And then from 1980 to '84,
it dipped way down,
1220
01:09:41,594 --> 01:09:43,429
almost disappeared.
1221
01:09:43,512 --> 01:09:45,472
'85, it starts to climb again,
1222
01:09:45,556 --> 01:09:48,350
and it goes all the way up
until 1990,
1223
01:09:48,434 --> 01:09:51,270
and then it dips again,
and it dips radically.
1224
01:09:51,353 --> 01:09:53,230
And when it did,
1225
01:09:53,314 --> 01:09:56,108
a lot of companies
went out of business.
1226
01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:58,336
- I remember Stacy telling me,
"It's getting really hard
1227
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,405
to justify any expenses that
we usually put out there."
1228
01:10:01,488 --> 01:10:03,616
And I said,
"Well, what does that mean?"
1229
01:10:03,699 --> 01:10:06,410
And he said, "Well, I think
you'll be the last to feel it,
1230
01:10:06,493 --> 01:10:08,913
but it's coming."
1231
01:10:27,556 --> 01:10:29,475
Skate magazines were going away.
1232
01:10:29,558 --> 01:10:32,519
Skate brands
were barely surviving.
1233
01:10:34,563 --> 01:10:36,190
The skate parks closing down
1234
01:10:36,273 --> 01:10:38,067
was the last nail in the coffin.
1235
01:10:41,946 --> 01:10:44,239
- The early '90s were
the dark years.
1236
01:10:44,323 --> 01:10:46,992
It was tough.
1237
01:10:47,076 --> 01:10:48,786
Vertical skateboarding was dead.
1238
01:10:51,038 --> 01:10:53,374
- I remember
some of the last contests,
1239
01:10:53,457 --> 01:10:54,625
and then all of a sudden,
1240
01:10:54,708 --> 01:10:56,794
there just was no more contests.
1241
01:10:59,213 --> 01:11:01,382
It was like a rude awakening
for all of us.
1242
01:11:05,094 --> 01:11:07,346
- '91 was sort of the end
1243
01:11:07,429 --> 01:11:09,682
of the Bones Brigade era
as I knew it.
1244
01:11:09,765 --> 01:11:11,558
We went to go talk to Stacy,
1245
01:11:11,642 --> 01:11:14,061
and he said,
"You guys, I already left."
1246
01:11:14,144 --> 01:11:16,480
- There was kind of
this distance thing
1247
01:11:16,563 --> 01:11:18,732
between all of us
during those years.
1248
01:11:18,816 --> 01:11:20,859
We weren't all together
with Stacy,
1249
01:11:20,943 --> 01:11:22,611
and we weren't going
to contests,
1250
01:11:22,695 --> 01:11:24,822
and we weren't...
There was nothing.
1251
01:11:24,905 --> 01:11:27,908
All of us were thinking,
you know, "Is this it?
1252
01:11:27,992 --> 01:11:29,868
What we love to do
is just nothing?"
1253
01:11:29,952 --> 01:11:32,663
You know, we just came
from touring around the world.
1254
01:11:32,746 --> 01:11:35,332
We went to George Harrison's
house, for Pete's sake.
1255
01:11:35,416 --> 01:11:39,920
That was an intensely tough time
1256
01:11:40,004 --> 01:11:42,715
for most of us.
1257
01:11:42,798 --> 01:11:44,883
- I started Birdhouse in '92.
1258
01:11:44,967 --> 01:11:46,719
I had high hopes
that it was going
1259
01:11:46,802 --> 01:11:48,721
to at least be profitable
within a year or so,
1260
01:11:48,804 --> 01:11:50,097
and it just wasn't.
1261
01:11:51,140 --> 01:11:52,683
And we were scraping by,
1262
01:11:52,766 --> 01:11:55,853
and there was...
There was not a bright future.
1263
01:11:55,936 --> 01:11:58,647
Riley, point to Mommy.
1264
01:11:58,731 --> 01:12:01,525
- Mommy.
- Yeah.
1265
01:12:01,608 --> 01:12:04,153
Where's Daddy?
1266
01:12:04,236 --> 01:12:06,196
- Cindy was becoming
the breadwinner
1267
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:07,406
being a manicurist.
1268
01:12:08,949 --> 01:12:11,952
Our relationship
was rocky at best.
1269
01:12:12,036 --> 01:12:14,121
People she works with,
it's just like,
1270
01:12:14,204 --> 01:12:16,165
"He's still trying
to skateboard?
1271
01:12:16,248 --> 01:12:18,083
"Are you fucking serious?
1272
01:12:18,167 --> 01:12:19,752
Like, grow up. Get a job."
1273
01:12:21,211 --> 01:12:24,214
I started taking every odd job
I could.
1274
01:12:24,298 --> 01:12:28,761
I bought a video editing
system on consignment.
1275
01:12:28,844 --> 01:12:29,928
I couldn't even afford it.
1276
01:12:30,012 --> 01:12:33,098
I borrowed $5,000
from my parents to buy it.
1277
01:12:33,182 --> 01:12:35,642
- He's chugging this OJ.
1278
01:12:35,726 --> 01:12:37,186
When I moved in with Tony,
1279
01:12:37,269 --> 01:12:39,772
we were both super, super broke.
1280
01:12:39,855 --> 01:12:42,357
But I think we were like,
"We'll just keep, you know,
1281
01:12:42,441 --> 01:12:45,444
"adjusting our lifestyle
lower and lower
1282
01:12:45,527 --> 01:12:47,404
until we get
to that crisis point."
1283
01:12:47,488 --> 01:12:50,074
- We had a water bill
at the time
1284
01:12:50,157 --> 01:12:53,452
that I had to go
down to the city
1285
01:12:53,535 --> 01:12:55,454
and ask to make payments on.
1286
01:12:55,537 --> 01:12:59,083
And they allowed me
to pay it off over six months.
1287
01:12:59,166 --> 01:13:02,169
I would look around
and it'd be like...
1288
01:13:02,252 --> 01:13:03,587
you know, there's a pool
1289
01:13:03,670 --> 01:13:07,257
and there's a propane tank
that I got to pay to fill,
1290
01:13:07,341 --> 01:13:08,634
and then there's this huge ramp
1291
01:13:08,717 --> 01:13:10,302
that was starting to fall apart
1292
01:13:10,385 --> 01:13:12,346
that I couldn't afford to fix.
1293
01:13:12,429 --> 01:13:14,181
And that's when reality sunk in.
1294
01:13:17,643 --> 01:13:19,353
I sold the house.
1295
01:13:19,436 --> 01:13:22,773
I had to tear down
this monstrous ramp.
1296
01:13:22,856 --> 01:13:25,901
Pulling out screws,
pulling off plies,
1297
01:13:25,984 --> 01:13:30,280
cutting chunks out of it
and kicking them over the side.
1298
01:13:30,364 --> 01:13:31,907
And to what end?
1299
01:13:34,868 --> 01:13:38,080
You're just dismantling
your career until it's gone.
1300
01:13:44,670 --> 01:13:47,047
- How did you handle stress
back then?
1301
01:13:48,757 --> 01:13:50,134
- I don't even...
1302
01:13:50,217 --> 01:13:51,677
How did I handle stress
back then?
1303
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,887
I think that I would go skate.
1304
01:13:56,348 --> 01:13:57,724
I mean, that was it.
1305
01:13:57,808 --> 01:14:00,185
That's been my...
1306
01:14:00,269 --> 01:14:02,229
That's been my escape, always.
1307
01:14:02,312 --> 01:14:05,190
But it was meager.
1308
01:14:05,274 --> 01:14:07,025
And it wasn't
what it used to be.
1309
01:14:07,109 --> 01:14:08,944
So it was like,
1310
01:14:09,027 --> 01:14:10,380
"Why are you spending
all your energy?
1311
01:14:10,404 --> 01:14:11,964
Why are you killing yourself
out there?"
1312
01:14:29,548 --> 01:14:31,383
- I hired him to help me
with a little video
1313
01:14:31,466 --> 01:14:34,094
for the shop or something
that I was trying to do.
1314
01:14:34,178 --> 01:14:36,430
He was, you know,
scrambling around,
1315
01:14:36,513 --> 01:14:39,725
but he still
pushed himself skating.
1316
01:14:45,314 --> 01:14:50,360
- I never considered
quitting skating as an option.
1317
01:14:50,444 --> 01:14:51,924
I was always gonna
find time to skate.
1318
01:14:57,326 --> 01:14:58,577
- Yeah!
1319
01:15:06,668 --> 01:15:09,421
I don't think I could estimate
how many 540s I've done.
1320
01:15:09,505 --> 01:15:10,923
It's just...
1321
01:15:11,006 --> 01:15:12,633
- Like, over...
1322
01:15:12,716 --> 01:15:16,511
- 10,000.
For sure. I...
1323
01:15:16,595 --> 01:15:19,765
Let's just say, for instance,
300 in a summer.
1324
01:15:22,392 --> 01:15:24,478
- 400, 500 a year. Yeah.
1325
01:15:24,561 --> 01:15:28,190
I mean, I was... like,
thousands, tens of thousands.
1326
01:15:28,273 --> 01:15:30,033
When people say you put in
your 10,000 hours,
1327
01:15:30,067 --> 01:15:31,735
I put in my 10,000 McTwists.
1328
01:16:08,188 --> 01:16:10,732
I first thought
about the possibility of 900s
1329
01:16:10,816 --> 01:16:13,485
after learning 720s in 1985.
1330
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:16,960
I didn't actually have
the nerve to try it
1331
01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:20,158
until 1987
at a skate camp in France.
1332
01:16:22,202 --> 01:16:24,788
I ended up trying it
a few times.
1333
01:16:24,871 --> 01:16:28,000
I didn't understand
where I was in the air
1334
01:16:28,083 --> 01:16:32,004
and ended up landing
on my back twice.
1335
01:16:32,087 --> 01:16:35,966
I wasn't ready to commit
to that spin.
1336
01:16:36,049 --> 01:16:37,676
- We had a lot of other skaters
1337
01:16:37,759 --> 01:16:38,969
chasing the 900,
1338
01:16:39,052 --> 01:16:41,388
and just because it had been
going on for so long,
1339
01:16:41,471 --> 01:16:42,514
which no other trick had,
1340
01:16:42,597 --> 01:16:45,726
it kind of got some, like,
holy grail aspect to it
1341
01:16:45,809 --> 01:16:48,020
that I've never seen
any other trick
1342
01:16:48,103 --> 01:16:49,896
treated like that
with the skate community.
1343
01:16:54,776 --> 01:16:59,489
It became a trick that
a lot of people are trying.
1344
01:16:59,573 --> 01:17:01,241
Everyone kept getting
a little close.
1345
01:17:01,325 --> 01:17:02,326
Like, they could spin,
1346
01:17:02,409 --> 01:17:03,886
but then they'd land
and keep whipping out.
1347
01:17:03,910 --> 01:17:06,038
There was always...
You would be close enough
1348
01:17:06,121 --> 01:17:07,205
to kind of taste it,
1349
01:17:07,289 --> 01:17:08,999
but there'd be one...
Something missing
1350
01:17:09,082 --> 01:17:12,544
that would make it totally
almost impossible to land.
1351
01:17:16,131 --> 01:17:19,551
- There were a couple times
in my pursuit of doing a 900
1352
01:17:19,634 --> 01:17:23,055
that I really was done with it.
1353
01:17:23,138 --> 01:17:26,224
The first time I tried
to really make one,
1354
01:17:26,308 --> 01:17:28,727
I was leaning forward too far,
and I broke my rib
1355
01:17:28,810 --> 01:17:31,730
when I... like, I just fell
into the flat bottom.
1356
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:36,860
That was at a time
when I wasn't really making
1357
01:17:36,943 --> 01:17:39,071
a good living skating.
1358
01:17:39,154 --> 01:17:41,531
I'll never forget that day,
because I was trying it...
1359
01:17:41,615 --> 01:17:44,910
My son Riley,
he was in kindergarten.
1360
01:17:44,993 --> 01:17:47,371
I was late to pick him up
to kindergarten
1361
01:17:47,454 --> 01:17:49,581
'cause I was stuck trying
this trick on the ramp.
1362
01:17:49,664 --> 01:17:51,666
I broke my rib trying it,
1363
01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:53,627
but I still had to get there
to pick him up.
1364
01:17:55,420 --> 01:17:57,714
It was a moment in life
where it was like,
1365
01:17:57,798 --> 01:17:59,800
"What am I doing?"
1366
01:18:06,932 --> 01:18:08,725
"I just can't do it."
1367
01:18:17,567 --> 01:18:20,237
- They'd been trying it
for so long, right?
1368
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,740
I think it was almost 12 years.
1369
01:18:23,824 --> 01:18:26,076
- You ever not committed
to a landing on a trick
1370
01:18:26,159 --> 01:18:27,494
before in your life?
1371
01:18:29,413 --> 01:18:32,040
- That's a good question.
1372
01:18:32,124 --> 01:18:36,628
I had never gotten so close
to a trick and given up on it.
1373
01:18:36,711 --> 01:18:38,130
Never.
1374
01:18:38,213 --> 01:18:40,298
Someone's got to do this.
1375
01:18:40,382 --> 01:18:42,509
Someone's got to break
through this boundary.
1376
01:19:49,201 --> 01:19:50,911
- When he's going after a trick,
1377
01:19:50,994 --> 01:19:52,662
you can watch him
get closer and closer,
1378
01:19:52,746 --> 01:19:54,998
'cause he's making little
adjustments in his head.
1379
01:20:12,599 --> 01:20:14,267
- When he knows
he's getting close,
1380
01:20:14,351 --> 01:20:17,270
he does not give up on a trick
unless his body breaks.
1381
01:20:17,354 --> 01:20:20,148
He'll just throw himself
and slam, slam, slam, slam.
1382
01:20:26,321 --> 01:20:28,865
- The 900
was a little different,
1383
01:20:28,949 --> 01:20:31,701
'cause that really trashes
your body super quick.
1384
01:20:44,506 --> 01:20:45,757
- I still don't get it, man.
1385
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,969
I don't know how Tony can keep
spinning it and keep his mind.
1386
01:20:49,052 --> 01:20:52,847
Like, it's got to make you
fuckin' freak out.
1387
01:20:52,931 --> 01:20:56,601
Like, a 720.
And then the 900? Like, how?
1388
01:20:56,685 --> 01:21:00,146
It's too hard.
It's just too much spinning.
1389
01:21:00,230 --> 01:21:04,150
- He tried to do it
in a bullring in Tijuana.
1390
01:21:04,234 --> 01:21:06,736
And he had another attempt
1391
01:21:06,820 --> 01:21:09,698
where I thought
it was gonna kill him.
1392
01:21:09,781 --> 01:21:12,367
His pursuit of that
was personal,
1393
01:21:12,450 --> 01:21:14,369
but it was also at a time
when skateboarding
1394
01:21:14,452 --> 01:21:18,081
was just kind of coming back up
into being popular again.
1395
01:21:18,164 --> 01:21:19,916
- Well, the X Games gave him
1396
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,502
the biggest platform
he's ever had.
1397
01:21:22,586 --> 01:21:24,796
- I heard ESPN was
gonna do an event
1398
01:21:24,879 --> 01:21:26,131
and include skateboarding.
1399
01:21:26,214 --> 01:21:29,175
I was like, "Skateboarding
is gonna be on ESPN.
1400
01:21:29,259 --> 01:21:30,760
That means something."
1401
01:21:30,844 --> 01:21:32,971
I was hyped, 'cause I had
never quit skating vert.
1402
01:21:33,054 --> 01:21:36,224
- The technical difficulty
is just immense,
1403
01:21:36,308 --> 01:21:37,809
and this guy pulls it off
1404
01:21:37,893 --> 01:21:39,978
as if he's going
for a walk through the park.
1405
01:21:40,061 --> 01:21:42,272
- I was there
for the first X Games.
1406
01:21:42,355 --> 01:21:43,791
I was there
for "The Tony Hawk Show,"
1407
01:21:43,815 --> 01:21:46,568
as all the other skaters
called it.
1408
01:21:46,651 --> 01:21:49,321
He won the vert contest.
He won the street contest.
1409
01:21:49,404 --> 01:21:50,530
- Tony Hawk.
1410
01:21:50,614 --> 01:21:52,115
- After the first X Games,
1411
01:21:52,198 --> 01:21:54,659
there was a little bit
more interest.
1412
01:21:54,743 --> 01:21:56,661
It raised the bar a little bit.
1413
01:21:58,997 --> 01:22:01,124
And then when the second
X Games came around,
1414
01:22:01,207 --> 01:22:03,335
that's when you could tell
something was happening.
1415
01:22:03,418 --> 01:22:05,170
- Riley Hawk.
1416
01:22:05,253 --> 01:22:08,006
His father has
locked up the gold medal.
1417
01:22:13,637 --> 01:22:15,680
- He is going huge.
1418
01:22:17,766 --> 01:22:22,187
Gymnastics has its Nadia,
but skateboarding has Hawk.
1419
01:22:22,270 --> 01:22:24,689
- Nobody else skates
like Tony Hawk.
1420
01:22:24,773 --> 01:22:26,107
- He is a hero.
1421
01:22:26,191 --> 01:22:27,776
- Tony Hawk,
the best skateboarder
1422
01:22:27,859 --> 01:22:29,402
the sport has ever seen.
- Tony Hawk.
1423
01:22:29,486 --> 01:22:32,280
That is the best
skateboarder in the world.
1424
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,164
- Hi, Dad.
1425
01:22:41,247 --> 01:22:43,166
I know that we don't get
to talk too much
1426
01:22:43,249 --> 01:22:44,393
about what you do around here,
1427
01:22:44,417 --> 01:22:46,544
but I just want you to know
that I appreciate it,
1428
01:22:46,628 --> 01:22:51,466
and... that we just thought
that we'd make a video
1429
01:22:51,549 --> 01:22:54,678
saying thanks
for all the great stuff.
1430
01:22:56,346 --> 01:23:00,767
My siblings and my mom and I
had steeled ourself,
1431
01:23:00,850 --> 01:23:03,603
ready for him to have
a heart attack at any minute,
1432
01:23:03,687 --> 01:23:05,814
because he just didn't
take care of himself.
1433
01:23:05,897 --> 01:23:07,816
And it was like,
that's what's gonna happen.
1434
01:23:07,899 --> 01:23:12,654
And we all almost were all
waiting for that to happen.
1435
01:23:12,737 --> 01:23:14,406
So we all had prepared
ourselves for that,
1436
01:23:14,489 --> 01:23:17,033
and then one day,
1437
01:23:17,117 --> 01:23:19,869
he finds out he has lung cancer.
1438
01:23:19,953 --> 01:23:22,706
He was in his final stages,
1439
01:23:22,789 --> 01:23:26,209
super rail thin, stuck in bed.
1440
01:23:26,292 --> 01:23:28,253
I went on this tour in Europe,
1441
01:23:28,336 --> 01:23:31,297
and I just felt weird
about being there,
1442
01:23:31,381 --> 01:23:34,426
'cause I knew
that he was degrading rapidly,
1443
01:23:34,509 --> 01:23:36,469
so I came home early
from the tour.
1444
01:23:36,553 --> 01:23:39,139
And he said,
"You have to do your thing.
1445
01:23:39,222 --> 01:23:41,349
You can't just sit here
and watch me die."
1446
01:23:41,433 --> 01:23:44,894
For the most part,
sent me to Woodward.
1447
01:23:44,978 --> 01:23:47,605
I heard a call
over the intercom.
1448
01:23:47,689 --> 01:23:50,567
"Tony Hawk, will you please
pick up the phone?"
1449
01:23:51,609 --> 01:23:53,403
When my mom called me
at Woodward,
1450
01:23:53,486 --> 01:23:55,405
she just broke down crying
and just said,
1451
01:23:55,488 --> 01:23:57,991
"He loved you so much."
1452
01:23:58,074 --> 01:23:59,325
And that was the first time
1453
01:23:59,409 --> 01:24:02,579
she really got emotional
about my dad.
1454
01:24:42,035 --> 01:24:43,620
- It's a very unique sport.
1455
01:24:43,703 --> 01:24:45,330
It's the only sport
in the world I know
1456
01:24:45,413 --> 01:24:47,624
where competitors...
I've watched 'em in the middle
1457
01:24:47,707 --> 01:24:50,043
of heavy competition
encouraging each other.
1458
01:24:52,587 --> 01:24:54,798
And earnestly
encouraging each other.
1459
01:24:54,881 --> 01:24:57,175
Not many competitions do that.
1460
01:24:57,258 --> 01:24:58,968
- So you think
it's a good sport?
1461
01:24:59,052 --> 01:25:01,012
- Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Definitely.
1462
01:25:01,095 --> 01:25:03,181
And I'd like to see it
continue as a sport.
1463
01:25:06,267 --> 01:25:07,560
- I can guarantee you
1464
01:25:07,644 --> 01:25:09,813
that every single one
of those skateboarders today
1465
01:25:09,896 --> 01:25:11,356
would look back on him fondly.
1466
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,191
Guarantee it.
1467
01:25:13,274 --> 01:25:14,859
I guarantee it.
1468
01:25:16,361 --> 01:25:17,862
- His dad was like
a second dad to me.
1469
01:25:17,946 --> 01:25:21,324
Like, he was just
an amazing person.
1470
01:25:21,407 --> 01:25:24,702
- I could only imagine,
you know, my family
1471
01:25:24,786 --> 01:25:26,704
doing what his family
did for him, you know?
1472
01:25:26,788 --> 01:25:28,790
Like, I would dream about that.
1473
01:25:28,873 --> 01:25:30,416
Like, "Wow, what would
that be like?
1474
01:25:30,500 --> 01:25:32,252
Nah, my dad
would never do that."
1475
01:25:36,965 --> 01:25:41,177
- Tony had me do something
right when his dad died,
1476
01:25:41,261 --> 01:25:44,055
and I was talking shit
at that thing.
1477
01:25:44,138 --> 01:25:49,227
I think I said something
real stupid in an interview.
1478
01:25:49,310 --> 01:25:52,647
"Glad he's gone,"
or something fucked up.
1479
01:25:52,730 --> 01:25:55,733
X Games, he's up there riding.
1480
01:25:55,817 --> 01:25:58,361
My son just died ten days ago.
1481
01:25:58,444 --> 01:25:59,696
He's got me.
1482
01:25:59,779 --> 01:26:01,656
So I get up there and I'm like...
1483
01:26:01,739 --> 01:26:03,741
And the first thing I said was,
1484
01:26:03,825 --> 01:26:05,326
"Got me now, motherfucker.
1485
01:26:05,410 --> 01:26:06,828
What are you gonna say?"
1486
01:26:06,911 --> 01:26:11,749
And then he goes, "Duane,
I'm super sorry about Chess."
1487
01:26:11,833 --> 01:26:14,210
I fucking... I mean...
1488
01:26:17,213 --> 01:26:18,756
And he goes,
"You got a minute?"
1489
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,633
'Cause cameras are on this guy
1490
01:26:20,717 --> 01:26:22,802
every-fucking-where he goes.
1491
01:26:22,886 --> 01:26:26,097
So it's like,
we go down to some, like, area
1492
01:26:26,180 --> 01:26:28,975
and fucking away from...
And just total
1493
01:26:29,058 --> 01:26:32,979
personal fucking cool...
Like, what the fuck?
1494
01:26:33,062 --> 01:26:35,607
What a cool... I didn't...
You know,
1495
01:26:35,690 --> 01:26:37,066
I didn't expect that.
1496
01:26:37,150 --> 01:26:38,568
That was nice.
1497
01:26:38,651 --> 01:26:40,570
And I was really blown away.
1498
01:26:40,653 --> 01:26:42,864
Like, my kid
fucking looked up to him,
1499
01:26:42,947 --> 01:26:45,825
and I let him know that.
1500
01:26:45,909 --> 01:26:48,995
You know?
"He looked up to you, man."
1501
01:26:51,164 --> 01:26:53,708
So I look at things
1502
01:26:53,791 --> 01:26:56,294
totally fucking different,
you know?
1503
01:26:56,377 --> 01:26:58,755
And...
1504
01:26:58,838 --> 01:27:02,508
you know...
1505
01:27:02,592 --> 01:27:06,512
when his... his dad died
1506
01:27:06,596 --> 01:27:08,723
and I said that in the...
1507
01:27:11,893 --> 01:27:14,270
'Cause it was just me and him.
1508
01:27:14,354 --> 01:27:16,898
And, you know,
that's how life works.
1509
01:27:16,981 --> 01:27:19,025
It's a fucking weird game.
1510
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,446
And all that
baton twirling shit,
1511
01:27:23,529 --> 01:27:26,324
he fucking stepped it up
for all of us.
1512
01:27:26,407 --> 01:27:27,575
All that fucking shit...
1513
01:27:27,659 --> 01:27:30,620
You know how much time it takes
to learn tricks like that?
1514
01:27:33,164 --> 01:27:34,832
- Okay, everybody.
1515
01:27:34,916 --> 01:27:37,335
We want to hear everybody
in the house right now.
1516
01:27:37,418 --> 01:27:38,670
Boys, girls,
1517
01:27:38,753 --> 01:27:40,463
ladies, and gentlemen,
1518
01:27:40,546 --> 01:27:41,673
wrapping up
1519
01:27:41,756 --> 01:27:42,674
our Best Tricks contest.
1520
01:27:42,757 --> 01:27:43,675
But don't forget,
1521
01:27:43,758 --> 01:27:45,134
you're gonna pick the winner.
1522
01:27:45,218 --> 01:27:47,512
Right now,
Tony's got a shot at it.
1523
01:27:47,595 --> 01:27:49,973
Can he do it?
Let's see it.
1524
01:27:52,809 --> 01:27:54,477
- Yeah.
1525
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:58,314
900, try not to... look at him
focused out here.
1526
01:27:58,398 --> 01:28:01,526
- We love you, crowd!
We love you!
1527
01:28:01,609 --> 01:28:03,611
- Yeah.
Keep it up. Keep it up.
1528
01:28:03,695 --> 01:28:06,364
900! 900!
1529
01:28:06,447 --> 01:28:08,116
This could be it.
1530
01:28:08,199 --> 01:28:09,450
Oh!
1531
01:28:09,534 --> 01:28:12,203
- Oh, the closest one!
1532
01:28:12,286 --> 01:28:14,539
- There was always
one or two really small things
1533
01:28:14,622 --> 01:28:17,041
that made the 9
almost impossible to land.
1534
01:28:17,125 --> 01:28:19,711
And I think one
of those things clicked there,
1535
01:28:19,794 --> 01:28:22,422
and he went,
"I'm... I actually felt better
1536
01:28:22,505 --> 01:28:24,048
"than I've ever felt
spinning that 9,
1537
01:28:24,132 --> 01:28:26,009
so I'm not gonna stop."
1538
01:28:26,092 --> 01:28:27,969
- You guys, you guys
want to see one more?
1539
01:28:28,052 --> 01:28:29,721
Tony Hawk coming close.
1540
01:28:29,804 --> 01:28:30,888
- Here we go, folks.
1541
01:28:30,972 --> 01:28:33,057
- History in the making.
1542
01:28:33,141 --> 01:28:35,351
Who wouldn't want
to be right here?
1543
01:28:35,435 --> 01:28:36,978
Making history.
1544
01:28:37,061 --> 01:28:40,064
Never, ever been done before
on the skateboard.
1545
01:28:40,148 --> 01:28:42,191
He's coming close.
1546
01:28:42,275 --> 01:28:44,318
Yeah, here we go.
900!
1547
01:28:44,402 --> 01:28:46,404
900!
1548
01:28:49,282 --> 01:28:52,869
Oh-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho!
1549
01:28:52,952 --> 01:28:56,080
- Oh, baby!
1550
01:28:56,164 --> 01:28:57,665
All right, stomp your feet!
1551
01:29:33,201 --> 01:29:35,620
- You saw him going inward
more and more and more
1552
01:29:35,703 --> 01:29:38,122
each and every time,
and you knew... or I knew,
1553
01:29:38,206 --> 01:29:42,001
watching, like,
he really isn't gonna stop.
1554
01:29:42,085 --> 01:29:44,170
And I had been there
when he'd only stopped before
1555
01:29:44,253 --> 01:29:46,297
'cause he broke a rib.
1556
01:29:46,380 --> 01:29:49,634
- He just said, "I'm either
gonna make this trick,
1557
01:29:49,717 --> 01:29:52,303
"or someone's gonna
take me off in a stretcher.
1558
01:29:52,386 --> 01:29:53,763
That's how it's gonna go."
1559
01:30:00,728 --> 01:30:03,648
Tony! Tony! Tony!
1560
01:30:27,380 --> 01:30:30,883
Tony! Tony! Tony! Tony!
1561
01:30:33,594 --> 01:30:35,274
- It was almost as if his mind
was going...
1562
01:30:38,724 --> 01:30:40,685
You know, squishing down
further and further.
1563
01:30:40,768 --> 01:30:43,229
And you can just see...
1564
01:30:43,312 --> 01:30:46,107
how much intensity
it took from him.
1565
01:30:48,276 --> 01:30:50,987
- 9! 9! 9! 9!
1566
01:30:51,070 --> 01:30:53,364
9! 9!
1567
01:30:53,447 --> 01:30:55,867
There it is!
1568
01:31:02,957 --> 01:31:04,375
- This is important to this guy.
1569
01:31:04,458 --> 01:31:06,669
He's focused.
He is prepped.
1570
01:31:06,752 --> 01:31:08,254
This is history in the making.
1571
01:31:14,510 --> 01:31:16,679
9! 9!
Tony Hawk!
1572
01:31:16,762 --> 01:31:20,516
Tony Hawk!
Tony! Tony! Tony!
1573
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,518
900!
1574
01:31:22,602 --> 01:31:25,897
900!
1575
01:31:25,980 --> 01:31:29,442
Oh!
So close.
1576
01:31:29,525 --> 01:31:32,945
The closest I've ever
seen anyone before.
1577
01:31:34,614 --> 01:31:40,036
Ooh, what is going on in 1999
in vertical skateboard history?
1578
01:31:40,119 --> 01:31:42,747
- We got Andy.
1579
01:31:42,830 --> 01:31:44,707
- All this energy.
These guys are going on.
1580
01:31:50,713 --> 01:31:52,465
Everybody picture it.
Here we go.
1581
01:32:01,224 --> 01:32:04,435
- Yeah!
- Oh!
1582
01:32:04,518 --> 01:32:06,687
Are you kidding me?
1583
01:32:06,771 --> 01:32:09,607
Yeah!
Look at this!
1584
01:32:09,690 --> 01:32:12,985
Tony Hawk, everybody!
1585
01:32:13,069 --> 01:32:14,737
Yeah!
Look at this!
1586
01:32:53,276 --> 01:32:55,027
- I've never seen Tony
1587
01:32:55,111 --> 01:32:58,614
explosively emotional like that.
1588
01:32:58,698 --> 01:33:01,450
Says a lot about that sense
1589
01:33:01,534 --> 01:33:04,120
of what he found out
about himself
1590
01:33:04,203 --> 01:33:06,205
by making himself do that trick.
1591
01:33:07,373 --> 01:33:10,501
- It had nothing to do
with the physical motions
1592
01:33:10,585 --> 01:33:11,502
of that trick.
1593
01:33:11,585 --> 01:33:13,546
It was all here.
1594
01:33:17,216 --> 01:33:19,844
- It's just a trick.
1595
01:33:19,927 --> 01:33:22,888
But to me, the ones that make
the most difference
1596
01:33:22,972 --> 01:33:25,516
in who I am as a man,
1597
01:33:25,599 --> 01:33:28,060
as a person...
1598
01:33:28,144 --> 01:33:29,812
is when you've redlined it
so much
1599
01:33:29,895 --> 01:33:32,148
that you did something
that you didn't know
1600
01:33:32,231 --> 01:33:34,150
if you had it in you to do it.
1601
01:33:34,233 --> 01:33:37,403
That's a different
kind of proving ground.
1602
01:33:38,988 --> 01:33:41,198
That shifts something
within you.
1603
01:33:46,996 --> 01:33:51,250
- I could feel
the thrill that I got
1604
01:33:51,334 --> 01:33:53,544
from anything I've done
through him.
1605
01:33:53,627 --> 01:33:55,212
It was huge.
1606
01:33:55,296 --> 01:33:59,884
Like, I was so excited
to see him do that.
1607
01:33:59,967 --> 01:34:02,970
So excited and happy for him.
1608
01:34:03,054 --> 01:34:05,222
You know, I just knew
what was going on.
1609
01:34:05,306 --> 01:34:09,060
Like, I've never reached that,
1610
01:34:09,143 --> 01:34:10,770
because I'll never do a 900.
1611
01:34:10,853 --> 01:34:12,271
But I've reached it
in other things.
1612
01:34:12,355 --> 01:34:15,191
And just the feel of that
and the win of that
1613
01:34:15,274 --> 01:34:17,693
and the... it's just rad.
1614
01:34:17,777 --> 01:34:18,861
It's huge.
1615
01:34:18,944 --> 01:34:21,405
It's so... it's killer.
It's so good.
1616
01:34:23,616 --> 01:34:26,327
- Sean Mortimer called me up,
like, two minutes
1617
01:34:26,410 --> 01:34:28,662
after he landed it
from the ramp and said,
1618
01:34:28,746 --> 01:34:31,040
"Your brother just landed a 9!
1619
01:34:31,123 --> 01:34:34,043
It's like a war ended!"
1620
01:34:37,213 --> 01:34:38,881
The thing I love about the 900
1621
01:34:38,964 --> 01:34:41,675
that doesn't get talked about
much was that...
1622
01:34:41,759 --> 01:34:44,220
that moment is kind of
in sports history,
1623
01:34:44,303 --> 01:34:46,263
which really was a moment
in sports history,
1624
01:34:46,347 --> 01:34:48,474
could only have happened
in skateboarding,
1625
01:34:48,557 --> 01:34:51,894
because any other sport,
1626
01:34:51,977 --> 01:34:54,105
the clock ran out.
1627
01:34:54,188 --> 01:34:55,439
It was done.
1628
01:34:55,523 --> 01:34:56,899
Like, that wouldn't
have happened
1629
01:34:56,982 --> 01:34:58,702
if they'd had skateboarding
in the Olympics,
1630
01:34:58,734 --> 01:35:00,294
'cause you know,
once the clock ran out,
1631
01:35:00,361 --> 01:35:03,239
they would have run up
and chained up the ramp
1632
01:35:03,322 --> 01:35:05,491
and said, "Okay, we're done."
But the...
1633
01:35:05,574 --> 01:35:08,077
- The irony is, if your dad
was running the...
1634
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:09,370
- Oh, my God.
1635
01:35:09,453 --> 01:35:10,680
You know,
that just occurred to me.
1636
01:35:10,704 --> 01:35:12,057
If my dad had been
running the show,
1637
01:35:12,081 --> 01:35:13,916
it wouldn't have happened.
1638
01:35:13,999 --> 01:35:16,961
Fuck.
That just occurred to me.
1639
01:35:19,088 --> 01:35:22,466
- I wish my dad had been able
to see the recognition
1640
01:35:22,550 --> 01:35:24,260
and the appreciation
that skateboarding got
1641
01:35:24,343 --> 01:35:26,470
after '99, 2000.
1642
01:35:26,554 --> 01:35:28,639
Even in his wildest dreams,
1643
01:35:28,722 --> 01:35:31,642
he thought that skateboard
contests would be bigger,
1644
01:35:31,725 --> 01:35:34,353
but he would have never imagined
1645
01:35:34,437 --> 01:35:36,605
that it blew up the way it did.
1646
01:35:38,107 --> 01:35:40,317
- Las Vegas,
put your hands together
1647
01:35:40,401 --> 01:35:43,320
for the Boom Boom HuckJam!
1648
01:35:57,877 --> 01:36:00,546
- Whoo-hoo!
1649
01:36:09,472 --> 01:36:12,266
- Suddenly,
we were rock stars again,
1650
01:36:12,349 --> 01:36:15,186
but on a completely
different level.
1651
01:36:16,437 --> 01:36:21,066
Performing in arenas,
selling out night after night.
1652
01:36:21,150 --> 01:36:22,711
We had a setup
that filled an arena floor.
1653
01:36:22,735 --> 01:36:24,820
We were way bigger
than a rock tour.
1654
01:36:24,904 --> 01:36:26,489
We filled the entire arena floor
1655
01:36:26,572 --> 01:36:29,283
with ramps and lights,
pyrotechnics.
1656
01:36:32,286 --> 01:36:34,038
- It was high-pressure
skateboarding.
1657
01:36:34,121 --> 01:36:35,956
It was like,
you have to make this trick,
1658
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:37,625
or a motorcycle
could land on you.
1659
01:36:41,128 --> 01:36:43,589
- I can remember watching
the Boom Boom HuckJam,
1660
01:36:43,672 --> 01:36:47,593
and other ladies my age were...
Just couldn't watch.
1661
01:36:47,676 --> 01:36:49,011
Their hands were
over their face,
1662
01:36:49,094 --> 01:36:51,096
and they were just terrified.
1663
01:36:56,852 --> 01:36:58,229
- Every night was a new city.
1664
01:36:58,312 --> 01:37:01,565
They would put a piece of tape
on the deck of the ramp.
1665
01:37:01,649 --> 01:37:03,049
When they handed you
the microphone,
1666
01:37:03,108 --> 01:37:04,652
you could glance down
at that tape
1667
01:37:04,735 --> 01:37:06,529
so you didn't go...
1668
01:37:06,612 --> 01:37:09,156
"Thank you, Philadelphia,"
and you're really in Chicago.
1669
01:37:10,950 --> 01:37:12,150
- Living in the lap of luxury.
1670
01:37:12,201 --> 01:37:15,079
Like, people were providing
for us at every turn.
1671
01:37:17,289 --> 01:37:20,292
Flying in and out of the tour
on Tony's private jet,
1672
01:37:20,376 --> 01:37:22,253
staying in these great hotels.
1673
01:37:24,004 --> 01:37:26,173
- It's all younger dudes,
mostly single.
1674
01:37:26,257 --> 01:37:29,093
And it was just like,
the world is yours.
1675
01:37:29,176 --> 01:37:30,970
You guys are, you know,
Led Zeppelin tonight.
1676
01:37:35,349 --> 01:37:37,494
- "Come on, Tony, let's go!
We got this club downtown."
1677
01:37:37,518 --> 01:37:40,062
Like, the tour manager
would call ahead and be like,
1678
01:37:40,145 --> 01:37:43,399
"Hey, we got Tony Hawk coming.
Make sure the door's open."
1679
01:37:51,323 --> 01:37:53,117
- There's a part of that
where it's like,
1680
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:56,245
"Okay, so now what?
So now you're a rock star?
1681
01:37:56,328 --> 01:37:59,290
So now you have
all this excess?"
1682
01:38:04,795 --> 01:38:07,798
- You know, Activision came
to him to do the video game,
1683
01:38:07,881 --> 01:38:09,258
and it was the best company,
1684
01:38:09,341 --> 01:38:10,634
and they had the best developer,
1685
01:38:10,718 --> 01:38:13,137
and, you know, he was hands-on.
1686
01:38:18,100 --> 01:38:20,311
- They developed this game
that he never thought
1687
01:38:20,394 --> 01:38:24,064
was gonna be particularly
popular amongst everybody.
1688
01:38:24,148 --> 01:38:26,609
He thought skaters
would like it.
1689
01:38:26,692 --> 01:38:28,611
- When the fourth game
was released,
1690
01:38:28,694 --> 01:38:30,863
the first three were still
in the top ten of sales.
1691
01:38:30,946 --> 01:38:33,490
And Activision called
a meeting with me.
1692
01:38:33,574 --> 01:38:35,492
I went and met one of the guys
I worked with.
1693
01:38:35,576 --> 01:38:37,494
I met him for lunch,
and he said...
1694
01:38:37,578 --> 01:38:39,055
He explained to me
what was happening.
1695
01:38:39,079 --> 01:38:40,682
He's like, "Well,
this is in the top sales,
1696
01:38:40,706 --> 01:38:41,790
and now it's a best hit."
1697
01:38:41,874 --> 01:38:42,791
I go, "What does that mean?"
1698
01:38:42,875 --> 01:38:44,168
He goes,
"This is what it means,"
1699
01:38:44,251 --> 01:38:47,504
and he hands me a check
for $4.5 million.
1700
01:38:47,588 --> 01:38:50,674
And I was like, "Oh, my God."
1701
01:38:50,758 --> 01:38:52,343
And then two years later,
1702
01:38:52,426 --> 01:38:54,553
they gave me an advance
of $20 million.
1703
01:38:54,637 --> 01:38:57,765
- Tony was getting recognized
everywhere.
1704
01:38:57,848 --> 01:39:00,184
He was the face
of skateboarding.
1705
01:39:00,267 --> 01:39:02,895
- I never got into
skateboarding to be famous.
1706
01:39:02,978 --> 01:39:04,855
I never thought I'd be famous.
1707
01:39:04,938 --> 01:39:06,899
And then I was famous,
and I was like,
1708
01:39:06,982 --> 01:39:08,817
"Well, I'm famous now.
1709
01:39:08,901 --> 01:39:12,154
I guess I'm supposed to do
all this stuff."
1710
01:39:12,237 --> 01:39:15,407
But it's the worst drug.
1711
01:39:15,491 --> 01:39:16,533
It's the worst drug.
1712
01:39:16,617 --> 01:39:17,618
- You got to let him go.
1713
01:39:17,701 --> 01:39:18,911
Come on, let him go through.
1714
01:39:18,994 --> 01:39:20,263
- And it's so easy to fall into.
1715
01:39:20,287 --> 01:39:21,997
It's crazy.
1716
01:39:22,081 --> 01:39:23,666
There was infidelity,
1717
01:39:23,749 --> 01:39:27,419
lying to myself
about justification,
1718
01:39:27,503 --> 01:39:29,380
you know, not being honest
with others,
1719
01:39:29,463 --> 01:39:31,423
not being honest with myself.
1720
01:39:31,507 --> 01:39:33,133
A lot of other things
1721
01:39:33,217 --> 01:39:34,897
that should have taken
priority in my life,
1722
01:39:34,927 --> 01:39:37,930
especially my kids,
fell by the wayside.
1723
01:39:38,013 --> 01:39:40,516
I had issues
with intimacy already,
1724
01:39:40,599 --> 01:39:44,144
and then I'm in
this crazy scenario.
1725
01:39:44,228 --> 01:39:45,521
I didn't like myself.
1726
01:39:45,604 --> 01:39:48,023
I didn't like
the choices I was making.
1727
01:39:48,107 --> 01:39:51,360
And that started to spiral
worse and worse.
1728
01:39:51,443 --> 01:39:52,653
I'm gonna distract over here.
1729
01:39:52,736 --> 01:39:54,029
I'm gonna anesthetize with this.
1730
01:39:54,113 --> 01:39:56,573
And it was just like,
"What's wrong with you?
1731
01:39:56,657 --> 01:39:58,534
Why can't you just be content?"
1732
01:40:02,037 --> 01:40:03,956
People aren't even happy
at home to see me.
1733
01:40:04,039 --> 01:40:06,542
Everyone's happy
to see me out on the road.
1734
01:40:06,625 --> 01:40:09,378
They welcome me.
1735
01:40:09,461 --> 01:40:10,480
"New York Times"
wants to talk to me.
1736
01:40:10,504 --> 01:40:11,422
I gotta go do that.
1737
01:40:11,505 --> 01:40:13,924
I gotta fly here
for this charity event,
1738
01:40:14,007 --> 01:40:15,259
'cause they invited me.
1739
01:40:15,342 --> 01:40:16,778
There's a movie premiere.
They want me.
1740
01:40:16,802 --> 01:40:18,095
I gotta be on the red carpet.
1741
01:40:18,178 --> 01:40:19,596
Well, of course I gotta go to...
1742
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:23,767
I gotta go to Monaco
for the "Sports Awards"...
1743
01:40:23,851 --> 01:40:25,936
that I'm not even nominated for.
1744
01:40:26,019 --> 01:40:31,066
And then I'd be there
and at some point back alone
1745
01:40:31,150 --> 01:40:34,695
and just thinking,
"Why aren't you just home?"
1746
01:40:40,826 --> 01:40:43,787
- The whole concept of, like,
yeah, people asking me, like,
1747
01:40:43,871 --> 01:40:46,248
"What's it like
to have your dad be Tony Hawk?"
1748
01:40:46,331 --> 01:40:47,600
It's like,
it's the only thing I know,
1749
01:40:47,624 --> 01:40:49,918
so I don't know
what it's not like.
1750
01:40:51,754 --> 01:40:54,798
- Riley was with me through
all of my relationships
1751
01:40:54,882 --> 01:40:58,510
and challenges and turmoil.
1752
01:40:58,594 --> 01:41:00,763
Riley had a rough upbringing
1753
01:41:00,846 --> 01:41:04,433
with a lot
of different co-parents
1754
01:41:04,516 --> 01:41:06,477
and half siblings.
1755
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:08,979
And he just went along with it,
1756
01:41:09,062 --> 01:41:11,440
'cause he didn't... obviously,
he didn't have a choice.
1757
01:41:11,523 --> 01:41:13,275
- It definitely was tricky
being the oldest
1758
01:41:13,358 --> 01:41:15,486
of two families
1759
01:41:15,569 --> 01:41:17,154
and two separate sets
of siblings,
1760
01:41:17,237 --> 01:41:18,906
because you're just kind of,
like...
1761
01:41:18,989 --> 01:41:21,867
I was the only one doing this.
1762
01:41:23,368 --> 01:41:25,078
- We were on tour once,
1763
01:41:25,162 --> 01:41:27,790
and I should have really
just enjoyed that aspect.
1764
01:41:27,873 --> 01:41:29,958
Like,
"Oh, Riley's here on tour."
1765
01:41:30,042 --> 01:41:31,352
And I remember him
looking at me like,
1766
01:41:31,376 --> 01:41:34,713
"Are you gonna go out
again tonight?"
1767
01:41:34,797 --> 01:41:36,381
And I was thinking, like,
"Aw, well,
1768
01:41:36,465 --> 01:41:38,105
you're just gonna fall asleep.
It's okay."
1769
01:41:38,133 --> 01:41:39,527
Like, "Someone will be
in the room with you.
1770
01:41:39,551 --> 01:41:40,844
It'll be all right."
1771
01:41:40,928 --> 01:41:43,180
And, like, I think back
to those times, like,
1772
01:41:43,263 --> 01:41:45,057
"You should have
taken that as a sign."
1773
01:41:47,476 --> 01:41:50,354
My other kids,
they only saw one relationship
1774
01:41:50,437 --> 01:41:51,688
or two relationships.
1775
01:41:51,772 --> 01:41:53,982
And they're like,
"Oh, this is your pattern.
1776
01:41:54,066 --> 01:41:55,901
This is what you do."
1777
01:41:55,984 --> 01:41:57,861
I didn't know how to live
in my own skin.
1778
01:41:57,945 --> 01:42:01,698
I didn't know how to...
How to like myself.
1779
01:42:01,782 --> 01:42:04,743
And I didn't know how to...
1780
01:42:04,827 --> 01:42:08,539
be a husband or a father
1781
01:42:08,622 --> 01:42:10,874
that I would be proud of.
1782
01:42:16,672 --> 01:42:18,006
Chef has arrived.
1783
01:42:22,636 --> 01:42:26,515
So scary that you cut
towards your fingers.
1784
01:42:26,598 --> 01:42:28,016
- No.
1785
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:31,645
- It's scary to me
as the adult figure
1786
01:42:31,728 --> 01:42:32,956
and the one that's supposed
to be responsible
1787
01:42:32,980 --> 01:42:34,022
for your safety.
1788
01:42:34,106 --> 01:42:36,191
That frightens me.
- This frightens you?
1789
01:42:36,275 --> 01:42:37,526
- Yes.
1790
01:42:41,780 --> 01:42:43,365
- No, but come down here.
1791
01:42:43,448 --> 01:42:45,659
- Are you guys pretending
like you guys cook?
1792
01:42:45,742 --> 01:42:48,704
- Oh!
- He took the trash out, too.
1793
01:42:48,787 --> 01:42:51,206
And he went
to the grocery store.
1794
01:42:51,290 --> 01:42:52,875
- I am a hunter and gatherer.
1795
01:42:52,958 --> 01:42:55,794
I hunt and gather income
by riding a skateboard.
1796
01:42:57,838 --> 01:42:58,881
- When I met Tony,
1797
01:42:58,964 --> 01:43:00,924
there was just something
very comfortable
1798
01:43:01,008 --> 01:43:02,467
about being around him.
1799
01:43:02,551 --> 01:43:04,177
Like, kind of like
when you meet somebody
1800
01:43:04,261 --> 01:43:08,140
that you feel like you've known
kind of feeling.
1801
01:43:08,223 --> 01:43:10,475
You're just the worst.
He's the worst.
1802
01:43:10,559 --> 01:43:12,199
- Oh, my God, he just...
- He's the worst.
1803
01:43:12,227 --> 01:43:14,187
He's the worst.
1804
01:43:14,271 --> 01:43:16,732
- When Cathy and I found
1805
01:43:16,815 --> 01:43:19,318
that there could be
this chance of romance,
1806
01:43:19,401 --> 01:43:24,156
I knew deep down
I had not figured out my life.
1807
01:43:24,239 --> 01:43:26,241
Like, I had not figured out
how to function
1808
01:43:26,325 --> 01:43:28,118
in a committed relationship,
1809
01:43:28,201 --> 01:43:30,454
and I carried all this baggage.
1810
01:43:30,537 --> 01:43:34,124
And I didn't think
she knew the depths of it.
1811
01:43:34,207 --> 01:43:36,877
- He didn't know how to...
1812
01:43:38,378 --> 01:43:41,214
Express his real, true feelings.
1813
01:43:42,549 --> 01:43:46,553
There's just some holes there
that he filled
1814
01:43:46,637 --> 01:43:48,138
with skateboarding.
1815
01:43:48,221 --> 01:43:50,515
And skateboarding fed so much
1816
01:43:50,599 --> 01:43:53,060
of what he was lacking
1817
01:43:53,143 --> 01:43:54,811
that I don't know
if he developed
1818
01:43:54,895 --> 01:43:57,147
how to get those things
other ways.
1819
01:43:57,230 --> 01:44:00,734
Even the relationship with his
parents was around skating.
1820
01:44:00,817 --> 01:44:04,613
Everything was around skating.
1821
01:44:04,696 --> 01:44:06,549
- I had to go make a change.
Like, I just knew it.
1822
01:44:06,573 --> 01:44:08,659
I knew I wasn't capable
of doing it myself.
1823
01:44:10,786 --> 01:44:12,245
Checked into a place.
1824
01:44:12,329 --> 01:44:14,915
And... it was hard.
1825
01:44:14,998 --> 01:44:16,250
It was super hard.
1826
01:44:18,168 --> 01:44:19,962
And where do you even start?
1827
01:44:22,089 --> 01:44:23,840
There's a skate park downtown.
1828
01:44:23,924 --> 01:44:28,053
I was at that skate park
at 7:00 a.m. every single day.
1829
01:44:28,929 --> 01:44:31,181
I made a special request
to be able to do that.
1830
01:44:32,599 --> 01:44:35,268
There was ice on the ground.
1831
01:44:35,352 --> 01:44:38,146
There was snow
covering the coping sometimes.
1832
01:44:38,230 --> 01:44:40,816
I would go out there
in snow gloves
1833
01:44:40,899 --> 01:44:43,694
and session for at least
an hour by myself.
1834
01:44:47,906 --> 01:44:50,659
What I realized is that I've had
1835
01:44:50,742 --> 01:44:55,080
the most intense discipline
in my life with skating.
1836
01:44:55,163 --> 01:44:59,418
If I can... if I can focus
that discipline on my life...
1837
01:45:01,128 --> 01:45:03,714
I must have it in there.
I must be able to do that.
1838
01:45:03,797 --> 01:45:06,383
- He said,
"I know I can do this,
1839
01:45:06,466 --> 01:45:08,427
"because these are
the qualities I have.
1840
01:45:08,510 --> 01:45:12,097
"I am determined,
I'm disciplined,
1841
01:45:12,180 --> 01:45:14,891
and I know I can make
all these changes in myself."
1842
01:45:14,975 --> 01:45:18,061
Because he has the example
of doing it in skating.
1843
01:45:18,145 --> 01:45:20,188
- I knew that
1844
01:45:20,272 --> 01:45:24,234
I was going to do
everything necessary
1845
01:45:24,317 --> 01:45:27,529
and stick with it
and lean into it
1846
01:45:27,612 --> 01:45:30,532
and wrote this ugly list
of things I wasn't proud of,
1847
01:45:30,615 --> 01:45:32,701
and...
1848
01:45:32,784 --> 01:45:34,161
that probably was the moment
1849
01:45:34,244 --> 01:45:38,707
where I was most in shock
and just was like,
1850
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:40,709
"This is the end of that."
1851
01:45:42,252 --> 01:45:45,756
I released this baggage,
1852
01:45:45,839 --> 01:45:49,760
and I felt like
I finally have a foundation
1853
01:45:49,843 --> 01:45:54,431
to fill up
with a positive way of living.
1854
01:45:54,514 --> 01:45:58,727
Me coming to terms with it was
balling up this list
1855
01:45:58,810 --> 01:46:00,020
and throwing it in the fire.
1856
01:46:03,899 --> 01:46:06,234
- Do you need any help?
- Yes.
1857
01:46:07,736 --> 01:46:09,071
Can you help me get youth?
1858
01:46:09,154 --> 01:46:10,739
- No.
- Why not?
1859
01:46:10,822 --> 01:46:12,240
You have so much of it.
1860
01:46:12,324 --> 01:46:14,910
- He's probably
at the point in his life
1861
01:46:14,993 --> 01:46:18,121
where he's probably
happiest with himself
1862
01:46:18,205 --> 01:46:19,581
and happiest
in his relationship.
1863
01:46:19,664 --> 01:46:21,684
And I think, ultimately,
that has the biggest effect
1864
01:46:21,708 --> 01:46:23,460
on your relationship
to your children.
1865
01:46:23,543 --> 01:46:27,005
And so I'm happy that he was
able to get to that point.
1866
01:46:27,089 --> 01:46:30,008
And now he has Kady that he can,
1867
01:46:30,092 --> 01:46:32,135
you know, be that parent to.
1868
01:46:32,219 --> 01:46:35,013
And I think he's the best form
of himself now.
1869
01:46:36,181 --> 01:46:37,349
- Can you stand up?
1870
01:46:39,059 --> 01:46:40,143
- Oh, my God.
1871
01:46:41,728 --> 01:46:43,563
- Oh, you did it!
1872
01:46:43,647 --> 01:46:45,287
That's the first time
I've seen you do it.
1873
01:46:49,319 --> 01:46:51,279
- Rodney Mullen
goes to his warehouse
1874
01:46:51,363 --> 01:46:52,864
and skates every night.
1875
01:46:52,948 --> 01:46:55,700
Lance is still waking up
every day and skating.
1876
01:46:55,784 --> 01:46:58,120
Steve Caballero's
still considering himself
1877
01:46:58,203 --> 01:46:59,496
a pro skater.
1878
01:46:59,579 --> 01:47:01,456
Mike McGill still skates,
and obviously,
1879
01:47:01,540 --> 01:47:05,210
Tony is skating all the time
at the highest level.
1880
01:47:05,293 --> 01:47:07,504
- There's a difference,
though, in some of those guys.
1881
01:47:07,587 --> 01:47:08,922
Rodney Mullen...
1882
01:47:10,590 --> 01:47:12,342
Skateboarding for him, I think,
1883
01:47:12,425 --> 01:47:15,804
is really an art form
that he just has to practice
1884
01:47:15,887 --> 01:47:18,723
like a Buddhist monk meditates.
1885
01:47:18,807 --> 01:47:20,225
Caballero has his artwork.
1886
01:47:20,308 --> 01:47:22,561
Mike McGill...
I think that Mike has a real
1887
01:47:22,644 --> 01:47:24,396
healthy relationship
with his skateboarding.
1888
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:26,898
I think he realizes
his better days are behind him.
1889
01:47:26,982 --> 01:47:28,066
He's fine with that.
1890
01:47:28,150 --> 01:47:31,695
I think Lance still feels
1891
01:47:31,778 --> 01:47:33,947
he's got to prove himself
in backyard pools.
1892
01:47:34,030 --> 01:47:37,492
So Lance and Tony...
1893
01:47:37,576 --> 01:47:38,910
They're in a different place.
1894
01:47:40,203 --> 01:47:42,873
- We're gonna go over
to Bob Burnquist's house,
1895
01:47:42,956 --> 01:47:44,708
compound, ramp.
1896
01:47:44,791 --> 01:47:46,710
I'd like to do a 360
over the gap.
1897
01:47:46,793 --> 01:47:48,253
And then if I make that,
1898
01:47:48,336 --> 01:47:49,814
I gotta do something
on the quarter pipe.
1899
01:47:49,838 --> 01:47:51,965
But I'll cross that bridge
when I get to it.
1900
01:47:53,466 --> 01:47:55,218
Here we are at Bob's.
1901
01:47:55,302 --> 01:47:56,779
- This looks a little crazy.
- There it is.
1902
01:47:56,803 --> 01:47:58,003
- It's a little crazy-looking.
1903
01:48:25,749 --> 01:48:26,917
- Whoo!
1904
01:48:28,501 --> 01:48:30,253
- I've seen him
get way more hurt
1905
01:48:30,337 --> 01:48:32,380
and try way more
gnarly things now
1906
01:48:32,464 --> 01:48:34,966
than he ever did
back when he was a kid.
1907
01:48:37,385 --> 01:48:38,720
- Yeah!
1908
01:48:38,803 --> 01:48:40,347
- Tony!
1909
01:48:55,695 --> 01:48:57,895
- I was there when he tried
the loop for the first time.
1910
01:49:04,996 --> 01:49:07,290
And I actually,
at one point, said,
1911
01:49:07,374 --> 01:49:10,168
"Can you just, like,
make him stop, please?
1912
01:49:10,252 --> 01:49:12,337
Can we stop this?"
But he didn't.
1913
01:49:28,395 --> 01:49:29,479
- Yeah!
1914
01:49:31,106 --> 01:49:33,650
- One of the reasons
he's accomplished so much
1915
01:49:33,733 --> 01:49:36,486
is, he doesn't think
about the bad things.
1916
01:49:36,569 --> 01:49:38,154
He doesn't let that get to him.
1917
01:49:42,117 --> 01:49:44,494
- Yeah!
- Yeah!
1918
01:49:46,204 --> 01:49:48,915
- Tony is competing
against Tony.
1919
01:49:48,999 --> 01:49:51,334
He's always been
competing against Tony.
1920
01:49:51,418 --> 01:49:54,504
- Three, two, one, go!
1921
01:49:57,924 --> 01:50:01,386
- Tony does not tire
of getting hurt,
1922
01:50:01,469 --> 01:50:03,680
he does not tire of repetition,
1923
01:50:03,763 --> 01:50:06,016
and he does not tire
of just doing the same thing
1924
01:50:06,099 --> 01:50:08,018
and attempting it over and over.
1925
01:50:18,987 --> 01:50:20,822
- You know, one thing for sure
about Tony
1926
01:50:20,905 --> 01:50:23,074
is that he can take a slam.
1927
01:50:23,158 --> 01:50:25,660
It's rare to find people who
1928
01:50:25,744 --> 01:50:28,872
like to get back up
and try it again.
1929
01:50:36,504 --> 01:50:39,382
- The reason he's been hurt
more than most people
1930
01:50:39,466 --> 01:50:41,092
is because he's attempting
1931
01:50:41,176 --> 01:50:43,887
so many more things
that they would never attempt.
1932
01:50:48,475 --> 01:50:50,894
- Holy shit.
1933
01:50:50,977 --> 01:50:52,896
- He's going to take some hits.
1934
01:50:59,110 --> 01:51:01,237
- One time,
I saw Tony fall at Del Mar,
1935
01:51:01,321 --> 01:51:05,200
and I guess his knee was
locking up and getting stuck.
1936
01:51:05,283 --> 01:51:06,201
I'm looking at it,
1937
01:51:06,284 --> 01:51:07,303
and he's like,
"Yeah, my knee's stuck."
1938
01:51:07,327 --> 01:51:09,079
And he's like,
"Pull it! Pull it! Pull it!"
1939
01:51:09,162 --> 01:51:11,039
I think it was his dad
or something like that
1940
01:51:11,122 --> 01:51:12,332
pulling on it.
1941
01:51:12,415 --> 01:51:15,085
And boom! And then he's like,
"Oh, all right."
1942
01:51:15,168 --> 01:51:18,088
He gets back up
and goes to skate again.
1943
01:51:18,171 --> 01:51:21,424
I'm like, "If my knee
got stuck, I'd be like,
1944
01:51:21,508 --> 01:51:23,093
'I need to go to a doctor.'"
1945
01:51:23,176 --> 01:51:25,595
And he's like, "No, I'm good."
1946
01:51:25,678 --> 01:51:26,763
- Broke my elbow.
1947
01:51:26,846 --> 01:51:29,891
Knocked my teeth out
at least five times.
1948
01:51:29,974 --> 01:51:32,769
Didn't dislocate my shoulder,
but it went out and in.
1949
01:51:32,852 --> 01:51:36,064
Rolled my ankles so far
that they should have broken,
1950
01:51:36,147 --> 01:51:39,234
and maybe I would have
benefited more if they had,
1951
01:51:39,317 --> 01:51:41,111
'cause now they're just
kind of loose.
1952
01:51:41,194 --> 01:51:43,905
I've had dozens of concussions
1953
01:51:43,988 --> 01:51:46,950
but only a few
that were really bad,
1954
01:51:47,033 --> 01:51:49,244
where I woke up somewhere else.
1955
01:51:49,327 --> 01:51:51,579
- His body's pretty messed up.
1956
01:51:51,663 --> 01:51:53,682
You know, if you watch him
turn and stuff like that,
1957
01:51:53,706 --> 01:51:55,500
he's got a lot of stiffness.
1958
01:51:55,583 --> 01:51:57,502
- I know what he has,
which a lot of us get,
1959
01:51:57,585 --> 01:52:00,296
is, we get whiplash
from taking slams.
1960
01:52:00,380 --> 01:52:02,173
And he has it really bad.
1961
01:52:02,257 --> 01:52:03,697
- I'm that guy
that people ask, like,
1962
01:52:03,758 --> 01:52:05,027
"Something wrong
with your neck?"
1963
01:52:05,051 --> 01:52:08,054
I'm like, "Yes.
40 years of whiplash."
1964
01:52:10,807 --> 01:52:12,684
- Whoa!
- Shit!
1965
01:52:14,102 --> 01:52:16,062
That's not good.
1966
01:52:16,146 --> 01:52:17,564
- Medic!
- Hey, medic! Quick!
1967
01:52:17,647 --> 01:52:19,941
- Medic! Medic!
1968
01:52:20,024 --> 01:52:21,985
- Can you hear me, Tony?
1969
01:52:22,068 --> 01:52:23,903
Can you hear me?
1970
01:52:25,029 --> 01:52:26,156
You all right?
1971
01:52:26,239 --> 01:52:27,866
- It hurts, man.
- I know, man.
1972
01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:30,326
You okay?
- Yeah.
1973
01:52:30,410 --> 01:52:32,054
- All right. I don't want...
- Cut the pads off.
1974
01:52:32,078 --> 01:52:33,514
- Minimal movement, okay?
- What is this?
1975
01:52:33,538 --> 01:52:35,874
- Minimal movement.
- Okay.
1976
01:52:35,957 --> 01:52:38,084
- Hold that on your head
right there.
1977
01:52:38,168 --> 01:52:40,670
- Fractured my skull,
broke my thumb,
1978
01:52:40,753 --> 01:52:42,380
broke my pelvis.
1979
01:52:42,464 --> 01:52:44,841
I sat in bed
for about six weeks.
1980
01:52:44,924 --> 01:52:46,843
And I thought,
"Maybe this is it."
1981
01:52:46,926 --> 01:52:49,429
Everyone kept asking me,
"How long can you skate?"
1982
01:52:49,512 --> 01:52:51,848
Maybe this is the answer.
This is how long I can skate.
1983
01:52:51,931 --> 01:52:54,142
I can skate till I'm 35,
when I break my pelvis.
1984
01:52:54,225 --> 01:52:57,103
- When I got knocked out in
Australia about five years ago
1985
01:52:57,187 --> 01:52:59,105
or something,
I was asking everybody, like,
1986
01:52:59,189 --> 01:53:01,149
"How long does this
fuzziness last, you know?"
1987
01:53:01,232 --> 01:53:03,377
I'm like, "Tony, you've been
knocked out a bunch of times.
1988
01:53:03,401 --> 01:53:04,486
How long does it"...
1989
01:53:04,569 --> 01:53:05,713
He's like,
"I don't know, Mike."
1990
01:53:05,737 --> 01:53:07,655
I'm like, "How many times
you been knocked out?"
1991
01:53:07,739 --> 01:53:09,115
You know,
he couldn't even recall
1992
01:53:09,199 --> 01:53:10,639
how many times
he's been knocked out.
1993
01:53:11,784 --> 01:53:14,746
- Can you imagine
watching your dad
1994
01:53:14,829 --> 01:53:17,790
tumble down a ramp at 56?
1995
01:53:17,874 --> 01:53:19,209
No.
1996
01:53:19,292 --> 01:53:20,919
- Like, we're grandparents.
1997
01:53:21,002 --> 01:53:24,547
We're grandparents
falling out of the sky.
1998
01:53:24,631 --> 01:53:26,049
- Why still push yourself
1999
01:53:26,132 --> 01:53:28,510
when there's no reward
of board sales
2000
01:53:28,593 --> 01:53:32,222
or contest winnings
or anything like that?
2001
01:53:32,305 --> 01:53:33,431
- That is the question.
2002
01:53:33,515 --> 01:53:35,058
That is the question,
why we do that.
2003
01:53:35,141 --> 01:53:37,936
I don't know.
It's just in us.
2004
01:53:38,019 --> 01:53:39,395
- Why do you think Tony does it?
2005
01:53:39,479 --> 01:53:41,189
Why do you think
he pushes himself so hard?
2006
01:53:42,607 --> 01:53:44,859
- I think it's to impress
all of us, you know?
2007
01:53:44,943 --> 01:53:47,904
I think it's... I honestly do,
2008
01:53:47,987 --> 01:53:49,989
because, you know,
most of the world
2009
01:53:50,073 --> 01:53:53,701
that's gonna see this film
doesn't know a Madonna
2010
01:53:53,785 --> 01:53:56,204
from a McTwist
from a Caballerial.
2011
01:53:56,287 --> 01:53:57,914
But his peers do.
2012
01:53:57,997 --> 01:53:59,874
And we are blown away
2013
01:53:59,958 --> 01:54:02,168
every time
we see something like this.
2014
01:54:02,252 --> 01:54:05,922
And it inspires us to go on
and do something different,
2015
01:54:06,005 --> 01:54:08,675
because that's what
skateboarding is all about.
2016
01:54:14,347 --> 01:54:18,142
- We had the 30-year reunion
of the "Animal Chin" video.
2017
01:54:18,226 --> 01:54:21,980
To commemorate that,
Tony had a replica
2018
01:54:22,063 --> 01:54:25,108
of the infamous Chin ramp built.
2019
01:54:25,191 --> 01:54:27,902
Caballero, McGill,
Lance, Tony, myself,
2020
01:54:27,986 --> 01:54:29,529
Tommy Guerrero, Rodney Mullen,
2021
01:54:29,612 --> 01:54:31,155
and a whole bunch
of other people
2022
01:54:31,239 --> 01:54:32,782
were there to celebrate.
2023
01:54:32,865 --> 01:54:35,451
So we got to watch them
skate it again.
2024
01:54:35,535 --> 01:54:38,413
And they reproduced
all the famous tricks
2025
01:54:38,496 --> 01:54:40,039
that they did at the time.
2026
01:54:44,586 --> 01:54:47,130
- 30 years later, these guys
are doing their famous,
2027
01:54:47,213 --> 01:54:48,798
you know, four-invert shot.
2028
01:54:48,881 --> 01:54:50,174
- Can we just try?
- Eee!
2029
01:54:51,718 --> 01:54:52,844
- This is it!
2030
01:54:52,927 --> 01:54:56,681
- One. Two. Three.
2031
01:55:05,523 --> 01:55:07,150
- Yoo-hoo!
2032
01:55:07,233 --> 01:55:11,446
- Lock it up.
- Oh-ho-ho-ho-ho-ho!
2033
01:55:11,529 --> 01:55:14,532
- That's amazing.
That's totally amazing.
2034
01:55:22,915 --> 01:55:25,168
- Yeah, Steve!
Nice!
2035
01:55:25,251 --> 01:55:28,338
- Whenever Caballero or McGill
did something
2036
01:55:28,421 --> 01:55:29,964
that was a little bit too edgy,
2037
01:55:30,048 --> 01:55:31,716
you could see them
stop midair and,
2038
01:55:31,799 --> 01:55:33,843
"That's it. Stop."
2039
01:55:33,926 --> 01:55:35,720
Every time they'd do something
2040
01:55:35,803 --> 01:55:38,848
and it was a touch off
of what they were out,
2041
01:55:38,931 --> 01:55:41,351
they'd throw the board
and slide... knee slide.
2042
01:55:41,434 --> 01:55:42,745
You could tell there was
no messing around.
2043
01:55:42,769 --> 01:55:44,009
These guys aren't getting hurt.
2044
01:55:45,730 --> 01:55:47,207
- As the temperature
started increasing
2045
01:55:47,231 --> 01:55:48,500
and these guys
started pushing each other,
2046
01:55:48,524 --> 01:55:52,695
Tony, like always, he started
going harder and harder.
2047
01:56:00,036 --> 01:56:01,496
- Yeah!
- Oh!
2048
01:56:01,579 --> 01:56:02,705
- Oh!
2049
01:56:09,337 --> 01:56:10,755
- Just chill out.
Just chill.
2050
01:56:10,838 --> 01:56:13,174
Just chill. Just chill.
Just chill out.
2051
01:56:13,257 --> 01:56:14,842
- Tony, just chill.
Tony, just chill.
2052
01:56:14,926 --> 01:56:16,844
Just chill. Lay there.
Stay there.
2053
01:56:16,928 --> 01:56:19,681
- Just kick back.
Kick back. Kick back.
2054
01:56:19,764 --> 01:56:22,934
Here.
- Hey.
2055
01:56:23,017 --> 01:56:24,519
- There you go.
2056
01:56:35,613 --> 01:56:37,073
- What is your name?
2057
01:56:40,827 --> 01:56:43,538
Wait, wait, wait.
What's your name?
2058
01:56:43,621 --> 01:56:44,956
- Tony Hawk.
2059
01:56:49,001 --> 01:56:51,087
- All of us just gasped.
It's like, "Oh, my God."
2060
01:56:51,170 --> 01:56:54,090
He's down there, laying there,
dead still.
2061
01:57:17,822 --> 01:57:20,241
He got himself up off the ramp
after about five minutes,
2062
01:57:20,324 --> 01:57:22,344
and then he went and sat down
at the bottom of the ramp,
2063
01:57:22,368 --> 01:57:24,370
and he just sat there.
2064
01:57:24,454 --> 01:57:26,581
- There's some water right here.
2065
01:57:26,664 --> 01:57:31,252
- His hair was, like,
Einstein-y, pitch-white skin,
2066
01:57:31,335 --> 01:57:33,004
and he looked 70 years old.
2067
01:57:33,087 --> 01:57:35,173
It was shocking.
It was really scary.
2068
01:57:35,256 --> 01:57:38,760
And I sat there going, "Man,
you can't do this at this age.
2069
01:57:38,843 --> 01:57:43,306
You can't put yourself in that
kind of danger at this age,"
2070
01:57:43,389 --> 01:57:45,349
especially with the career
he's had.
2071
01:57:45,433 --> 01:57:47,810
And it really,
really troubled me.
2072
01:57:47,894 --> 01:57:49,654
And I went and had
a really long conversation
2073
01:57:49,729 --> 01:57:50,938
with Sean Mortimer afterwards,
2074
01:57:51,022 --> 01:57:52,940
saying, "Look, somebody's
gotta talk to Tony.
2075
01:57:53,024 --> 01:57:54,358
He can't let this happen."
2076
01:57:54,442 --> 01:57:55,735
I talked to Steve Hawk.
2077
01:57:55,818 --> 01:57:57,320
I called Steve Hawk
on the phone.
2078
01:57:57,403 --> 01:57:59,655
And I'm going,
"Steve, Tony's gotta be told
2079
01:57:59,739 --> 01:58:01,449
he can't do this."
2080
01:58:01,532 --> 01:58:02,784
But I couldn't get any takers.
2081
01:58:02,867 --> 01:58:04,619
I couldn't get anybody
to, like...
2082
01:58:04,702 --> 01:58:06,078
Guys, you've got to...
2083
01:58:06,162 --> 01:58:07,681
There's got to be
an intervention here.
2084
01:58:07,705 --> 01:58:09,874
I mean, come on!
2085
01:58:09,957 --> 01:58:12,335
That's not a bad concussion.
2086
01:58:12,418 --> 01:58:15,421
That's a disaster, you know?
2087
01:58:23,596 --> 01:58:26,015
- I don't know
what I think about it.
2088
01:58:26,098 --> 01:58:28,559
I think it's no one's place
to say that to him.
2089
01:58:30,603 --> 01:58:32,605
- Okay.
So what do you mean?
2090
01:58:34,232 --> 01:58:35,441
- I don't know.
2091
01:58:37,819 --> 01:58:38,986
He doesn't unders...
2092
01:58:40,279 --> 01:58:42,156
He doesn't even understand
2093
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:44,283
that we're gonna probably
die skateboarding
2094
01:58:44,367 --> 01:58:45,493
and kill ourselves.
2095
01:58:45,576 --> 01:58:48,204
It's something you can't change.
2096
01:58:50,748 --> 01:58:51,874
I can't sleep.
2097
01:58:53,167 --> 01:58:56,212
I can't sleep on my shoulders.
It's terrible.
2098
01:58:56,295 --> 01:58:57,505
It's horrible.
2099
01:58:57,588 --> 01:59:00,675
You're actually destroying
yourself on what you love.
2100
01:59:00,758 --> 01:59:04,554
But it's not... it's too late,
first of all,
2101
01:59:04,637 --> 01:59:06,514
to be concerned about, like,
2102
01:59:06,597 --> 01:59:07,997
"Oh, it's time for us
to slow down."
2103
01:59:08,057 --> 01:59:09,409
Like, I don't know.
I don't know to...
2104
01:59:09,433 --> 01:59:11,727
I don't know
how to react to that.
2105
01:59:11,811 --> 01:59:13,896
He's right, but I don't know
how to react to it.
2106
01:59:17,441 --> 01:59:19,527
- I worry a lot that he's...
2107
01:59:19,610 --> 01:59:21,445
That he will really
hurt himself.
2108
01:59:21,529 --> 01:59:22,631
Some of the stuff he's done,
2109
01:59:22,655 --> 01:59:25,032
if something went wrong,
he could have died for sure.
2110
01:59:25,116 --> 01:59:27,368
And that scares
the fuck out of me.
2111
01:59:27,451 --> 01:59:31,205
- The abuse their bodies
are taking is pretty absurd.
2112
01:59:31,289 --> 01:59:32,832
Like, Tony is just...
2113
01:59:32,915 --> 01:59:35,918
Tony and Lance might be
the most battered dudes,
2114
01:59:36,002 --> 01:59:37,086
like, of all of them.
2115
01:59:37,169 --> 01:59:39,046
Tony especially, man, he's...
2116
01:59:39,130 --> 01:59:40,256
You've seen his fingers.
2117
01:59:40,339 --> 01:59:41,924
They're all fucking
out of socket.
2118
01:59:42,008 --> 01:59:43,759
And just...
His shins are all fucked up.
2119
01:59:43,843 --> 01:59:46,137
He tried the full pipe,
2120
01:59:46,220 --> 01:59:50,057
and... but he gets
so fucking slammed.
2121
01:59:50,141 --> 01:59:51,434
But he continues.
2122
01:59:53,436 --> 01:59:54,645
- Yeah, it's foolish.
2123
01:59:54,729 --> 01:59:57,398
It's foolish
what we've done to ourselves.
2124
01:59:57,481 --> 02:00:00,735
Tony... a lot of us.
It's foolish.
2125
02:00:00,818 --> 02:00:02,695
We're gonna live
in absolute pain.
2126
02:00:04,822 --> 02:00:07,658
I've had so many concussions.
I know I have.
2127
02:00:09,452 --> 02:00:11,078
You know.
2128
02:00:11,162 --> 02:00:12,848
I know I have what those
football players have,
2129
02:00:12,872 --> 02:00:14,975
and I'm probably gonna have
a brain tumor like my dad.
2130
02:00:14,999 --> 02:00:16,167
I'm sure of it.
2131
02:00:16,250 --> 02:00:17,418
And it's because...
2132
02:00:19,879 --> 02:00:24,300
We were stupid skateboarding
and we got injured.
2133
02:00:24,383 --> 02:00:26,594
It is what it is.
2134
02:00:26,677 --> 02:00:30,473
He is going to probably get
another gnarly concussion.
2135
02:00:30,556 --> 02:00:32,350
He's probably gonna
break another bone.
2136
02:00:32,433 --> 02:00:33,833
He's probably gonna
get to the point
2137
02:00:33,893 --> 02:00:37,188
where his body
will not let him do it.
2138
02:00:37,271 --> 02:00:39,106
And that's the way
we're gonna go.
2139
02:00:39,190 --> 02:00:41,025
Stupid?
Yes.
2140
02:00:41,108 --> 02:00:45,196
- Maybe it's, like, not smart.
I don't know.
2141
02:00:45,279 --> 02:00:49,158
But we forget about, you know,
the pain and the suffering
2142
02:00:49,241 --> 02:00:52,119
that we go through
to get to that next level.
2143
02:00:52,203 --> 02:00:53,963
And I think it's those people
that are afraid
2144
02:00:53,996 --> 02:00:56,666
to go through that,
2145
02:00:56,749 --> 02:00:58,459
you know,
that pain and suffering,
2146
02:00:58,542 --> 02:01:01,337
that never amount to anything
2147
02:01:01,420 --> 02:01:05,508
than just a normal, safe life,
you know?
2148
02:01:05,591 --> 02:01:10,513
We don't live
in those parameters, you know.
2149
02:01:10,596 --> 02:01:14,016
- There's consequences
to everything we do.
2150
02:01:14,100 --> 02:01:17,979
But when you tap... tiptoe
around the consequences...
2151
02:01:20,398 --> 02:01:21,816
Tony was having consequen...
2152
02:01:21,899 --> 02:01:23,526
He would never have
reached what he did
2153
02:01:23,609 --> 02:01:26,654
if he listened to those
consequences things back then.
2154
02:01:29,615 --> 02:01:32,535
"You're too small.
You can't get to the top.
2155
02:01:32,618 --> 02:01:34,286
"You do it weird.
We don't like you.
2156
02:01:34,370 --> 02:01:36,580
Here's a beer can in the"...
What?
2157
02:01:36,664 --> 02:01:37,832
We all would have stopped
2158
02:01:37,915 --> 02:01:40,042
if we'd listened
to anybody telling us, like,
2159
02:01:40,126 --> 02:01:42,336
"You know, there's gonna be
a cost to this."
2160
02:01:46,465 --> 02:01:49,135
And some are gonna pay more.
2161
02:01:49,218 --> 02:01:53,389
- This is the luxury
of having spent my life
2162
02:01:53,472 --> 02:01:55,516
doing what I love.
2163
02:01:55,599 --> 02:01:57,351
The cost of that...
2164
02:02:00,146 --> 02:02:01,689
It sucks.
2165
02:02:04,275 --> 02:02:06,027
I'm not blind.
2166
02:02:07,445 --> 02:02:10,823
I'm not numb to the pain.
2167
02:02:10,906 --> 02:02:12,533
I would argue
I'm more conscious of it
2168
02:02:12,616 --> 02:02:14,368
than anybody else.
2169
02:02:14,452 --> 02:02:17,830
But I'm also more conscious
of what that gives me.
2170
02:02:20,958 --> 02:02:24,253
And when I'm done with this...
2171
02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:30,259
That will be what it is,
and I'll find a way.
2172
02:02:30,342 --> 02:02:33,763
But there's something
inside of me propelling
2173
02:02:33,846 --> 02:02:38,559
that I'm not going to give up
until the wheels fall off.
2174
02:02:38,642 --> 02:02:41,604
That's what I'm made of.
2175
02:02:41,687 --> 02:02:45,399
And I wish... I see all
the arguments against it.
2176
02:02:45,483 --> 02:02:49,320
But I wish I could relate
the intangibles to you.
2177
02:02:51,405 --> 02:02:55,242
My guess is that
we're all built the same.
2178
02:02:55,326 --> 02:02:58,329
None of us are
completely stupid.
2179
02:02:58,412 --> 02:03:00,790
A little deranged,
I think a strong argument.
2180
02:03:00,873 --> 02:03:03,084
I do.
2181
02:03:03,167 --> 02:03:05,836
But ultimately,
2182
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:09,090
we also know what we have.
2183
02:03:09,173 --> 02:03:11,842
And to go and lay down
in that sense of it...
2184
02:03:15,346 --> 02:03:19,350
That's like embracing
what we've done with our lives.
2185
02:03:19,433 --> 02:03:20,851
You know?
2186
02:04:03,269 --> 02:04:06,480
- I found this thing
that I've loved
2187
02:04:06,564 --> 02:04:08,816
more than anything else
that I've tried
2188
02:04:08,899 --> 02:04:10,359
or done in my life.
2189
02:04:12,945 --> 02:04:16,448
I found my purpose
and my salvation.
2190
02:04:18,075 --> 02:04:22,997
And in some ways,
I found my emotional highs.
2191
02:04:25,916 --> 02:04:29,336
I'm still trying
to push my limits.
2192
02:04:32,131 --> 02:04:35,968
I don't know how long
this will last.
2193
02:04:36,051 --> 02:04:38,762
But I'm not gonna quit.
2194
02:08:51,831 --> 02:08:53,831
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