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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,639 --> 00:00:15,870 thank you very much mr. president ladies 2 00:00:15,870 --> 00:00:16,619 and gentlemen good evening 3 00:00:16,619 --> 00:00:18,480 assalamualaikum lovely to see you all 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:20,340 here tonight we are having a very 5 00:00:20,340 --> 00:00:22,230 entertaining night are we not with some 6 00:00:22,230 --> 00:00:25,050 very interesting things being said from 7 00:00:25,050 --> 00:00:28,949 the other side of the house tonight let 8 00:00:28,949 --> 00:00:32,040 me begin by saying as a Muslim as a 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:33,989 representative of Islam I would consider 10 00:00:33,989 --> 00:00:36,510 myself an ambassador for Islam a 11 00:00:36,510 --> 00:00:39,120 believer in Islam a follower of Islam 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,780 and its prophet so in that capacity let 13 00:00:42,780 --> 00:00:44,550 me begin by apologizing to anne-marie 14 00:00:44,550 --> 00:00:47,160 for the Bali bombings I apologize for 15 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:49,680 the role of my religion and me and my 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,590 people for the killing of theo van gogh 17 00:00:52,590 --> 00:00:55,530 for 7/7 yes that was all of us 18 00:00:55,530 --> 00:00:58,170 that was Islam that was Muslims that was 19 00:00:58,170 --> 00:01:01,350 the Quran I mean astonishing astonishing 20 00:01:01,350 --> 00:01:04,769 claims to make in the very first speech 21 00:01:04,769 --> 00:01:06,869 not on a day like today where the 22 00:01:06,869 --> 00:01:08,250 conservative Prime Minister of the 23 00:01:08,250 --> 00:01:09,689 United Kingdom is having to come out and 24 00:01:09,689 --> 00:01:11,640 point out that these kind of views are 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,409 anathema and I believe you're trying to 26 00:01:13,409 --> 00:01:14,490 stand for the Labor Party to become an 27 00:01:14,490 --> 00:01:17,460 MP in Brighton if you do and you make 28 00:01:17,460 --> 00:01:19,860 these comments I'm guessing you'll have 29 00:01:19,860 --> 00:01:21,450 the wit withdrawn from you but then 30 00:01:21,450 --> 00:01:23,280 again you Kipps on the rise they'll take 31 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,770 you the BNP they might have something to 32 00:01:25,770 --> 00:01:31,250 say about your views away 33 00:01:31,250 --> 00:01:33,440 away by the way thanks by the way by the 34 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,210 way sort of factual points as we heard a 35 00:01:35,210 --> 00:01:36,230 lot about the second speaker about 36 00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:38,540 backward we Muslims all are on a factual 37 00:01:38,540 --> 00:01:40,190 point you said that Islam was born in 38 00:01:40,190 --> 00:01:42,740 Saudi Arabia Islam was born in 610 ad 39 00:01:42,740 --> 00:01:46,220 Saudi Arabia was born in 1932 ad so you 40 00:01:46,220 --> 00:01:49,670 were only 1300 of 22 years off not bad 41 00:01:49,670 --> 00:01:52,250 not bad start they're talking of maths 42 00:01:52,250 --> 00:01:55,760 by the way a man named hour is me with 43 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:56,960 one of the greatest mathematicians of 44 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,700 all time a Muslim worked in the Golden 45 00:01:58,700 --> 00:01:59,450 Age of Islam 46 00:01:59,450 --> 00:02:01,430 he's the guy who came up with not just 47 00:02:01,430 --> 00:02:03,259 algebra but algorithms without 48 00:02:03,259 --> 00:02:04,640 algorithms you wouldn't have laptops 49 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,130 without laptops Daniel Johnson tonight 50 00:02:07,130 --> 00:02:08,209 wouldn't been able to print out his 51 00:02:08,209 --> 00:02:09,949 speech in which he came to berate as 52 00:02:09,949 --> 00:02:11,630 Muslims for holding back the advance and 53 00:02:11,630 --> 00:02:13,250 intellectual achievements of the West 54 00:02:13,250 --> 00:02:14,930 which all happened without any 55 00:02:14,930 --> 00:02:16,459 contribution from anyone else other than 56 00:02:16,459 --> 00:02:18,530 the judeo-christian people of Europe in 57 00:02:18,530 --> 00:02:21,140 fact Daniel David levering the author of 58 00:02:21,140 --> 00:02:22,850 the Pulitzer prize-winning historian and 59 00:02:22,850 --> 00:02:24,140 author of the golden crucible pointer 60 00:02:24,140 --> 00:02:25,970 that there would be no Renaissance there 61 00:02:25,970 --> 00:02:27,110 would be no Reformation in Europe 62 00:02:27,110 --> 00:02:29,330 without the role played by even a sinner 63 00:02:29,330 --> 00:02:30,680 and even though Roche than some of the 64 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,510 great Muslim theologians philosopher 65 00:02:32,510 --> 00:02:37,870 scientist in bringing peace to Europe 66 00:02:39,210 --> 00:02:43,030 as for this being our University I will 67 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:44,650 leave that to the imagination as to who 68 00:02:44,650 --> 00:02:46,930 is our and who is there I studied here 69 00:02:46,930 --> 00:02:50,740 to an astonishing astonishing set of 70 00:02:50,740 --> 00:02:53,140 speeches so far making this case tonight 71 00:02:53,140 --> 00:02:58,480 a mixture of just cherry-picked quotes 72 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,430 facts and figures self-serving 73 00:03:00,430 --> 00:03:03,600 selectively a farrago of distortions 74 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,460 misrepresentations misinterpretations 75 00:03:06,460 --> 00:03:09,880 miss quotations Daniel talked about my 76 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:11,260 article in the New Statesman which got 77 00:03:11,260 --> 00:03:12,430 me a lot of flack where I talked about 78 00:03:12,430 --> 00:03:14,920 the anti-semitism that is prevalent in 79 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:16,270 some parts of the Muslim community which 80 00:03:16,270 --> 00:03:18,730 indeed it is of course I didn't say in 81 00:03:18,730 --> 00:03:20,230 that piece that it was caused by the 82 00:03:20,230 --> 00:03:22,390 religion of Islam in fact modern 83 00:03:22,390 --> 00:03:24,250 anti-semitism in the Middle East was 84 00:03:24,250 --> 00:03:26,610 imported from finish the sentence 85 00:03:26,610 --> 00:03:29,320 Christian Judeo Christian Europe where I 86 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,020 believe some certain bad things happen 87 00:03:32,020 --> 00:03:33,520 to the Jewish people in fact Tom 88 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:34,990 Friedman Jewish American columnist in 89 00:03:34,990 --> 00:03:36,220 New York Times told me in this very 90 00:03:36,220 --> 00:03:37,990 chamber last week that he believed had 91 00:03:37,990 --> 00:03:40,030 Muslims been running Europe in the 1940s 92 00:03:40,030 --> 00:03:42,010 six million extra Jews would still be 93 00:03:42,010 --> 00:03:43,360 alive today so I'm not going to take 94 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,610 lessons in anti-semitism from someone 95 00:03:45,610 --> 00:03:47,019 who's here to defend the judeo-christian 96 00:03:47,019 --> 00:03:48,640 values of a continent of murder of six 97 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,500 million Jews moving swiftly on moving 98 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:56,670 swiftly on yes 99 00:03:56,670 --> 00:03:58,360 absolutely well I'm about to read a 100 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,560 point no no no I'm about to make the 101 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,520 point you're right I agree with you 102 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,180 I agree with you I agree with you 110% 103 00:04:05,180 --> 00:04:07,520 that is my point I don't think Europe is 104 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,530 evil or bad I'm a very proud European I 105 00:04:09,530 --> 00:04:11,240 don't want to judge Europe on the basis 106 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,590 but if we're going to play this gutter 107 00:04:12,590 --> 00:04:14,300 game where we pull out the barley 108 00:04:14,300 --> 00:04:16,070 bombing and we pull out examples of 109 00:04:16,070 --> 00:04:17,450 anti-semitism this lymangood then of 110 00:04:17,450 --> 00:04:18,589 course I'm going to come back and say 111 00:04:18,589 --> 00:04:20,209 well hold on I mean look let's be very 112 00:04:20,209 --> 00:04:20,660 clear 113 00:04:20,660 --> 00:04:21,738 Daniel here was a last minute 114 00:04:21,738 --> 00:04:23,210 replacement for Douglas Murray who had 115 00:04:23,210 --> 00:04:25,010 to pull out and Douglas and I have a 116 00:04:25,010 --> 00:04:26,660 well-documented differences but to be 117 00:04:26,660 --> 00:04:28,250 fair to Douglas has to be fair to 118 00:04:28,250 --> 00:04:30,400 anne-marie and to Peter atheists 119 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,990 atheists see all religions as evil 120 00:04:32,990 --> 00:04:35,480 violent threatening what the problem I 121 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,640 have with Daniel speech is that Daniel 122 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,800 comes here to wrap this robust defense 123 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,980 of Christianity forgetting that his 124 00:04:42,980 --> 00:04:44,570 fellow Christians people who said they 125 00:04:44,570 --> 00:04:46,280 were acting in the name of Jesus gave us 126 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:48,710 the Crusades the Spanish Inquisition the 127 00:04:48,710 --> 00:04:51,050 anti-jewish pogroms European colonialism 128 00:04:51,050 --> 00:04:52,820 in Africa and Asia the Lord's Resistance 129 00:04:52,820 --> 00:04:55,490 Army in Uganda not to mention countless 130 00:04:55,490 --> 00:04:57,260 arson and bomb attacks on abortion 131 00:04:57,260 --> 00:04:59,450 clinics in the United States of America 132 00:04:59,450 --> 00:05:01,340 to this very day I would like a little 133 00:05:01,340 --> 00:05:03,110 bit of humility from Daniel first before 134 00:05:03,110 --> 00:05:04,730 he begins lecturing other communities 135 00:05:04,730 --> 00:05:06,770 and other faiths on violent terror and 136 00:05:06,770 --> 00:05:11,650 intolerance but no thank you 137 00:05:13,750 --> 00:05:16,400 but I would say this to address the 138 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,840 gentleman's very valid point here I'm 139 00:05:17,840 --> 00:05:19,639 not going to play that game I don't 140 00:05:19,639 --> 00:05:21,650 actually believe that Christianity is a 141 00:05:21,650 --> 00:05:23,570 religion of violence and hate because of 142 00:05:23,570 --> 00:05:26,690 what the LRA does in Uganda or what what 143 00:05:26,690 --> 00:05:29,120 Crusaders did to Jews and Muslims in 144 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:30,410 Jerusalem and they took back the city in 145 00:05:30,410 --> 00:05:32,150 the 12th or 13th whatever century it was 146 00:05:32,150 --> 00:05:34,370 I believe that Christianity like Islam 147 00:05:34,370 --> 00:05:35,840 like pretty much every mainstream 148 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:38,090 religion is based on love and compassion 149 00:05:38,090 --> 00:05:40,310 and faith I do follow a religion in 150 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:42,350 which hundred and thirteen out of 114 151 00:05:42,350 --> 00:05:44,000 chapters of the Quran begins by 152 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,919 introducing the God of Islam as a God of 153 00:05:45,919 --> 00:05:48,349 mercy and compassion I would not have it 154 00:05:48,349 --> 00:05:49,130 any other way 155 00:05:49,130 --> 00:05:50,750 I don't follow a religion which 156 00:05:50,750 --> 00:05:53,030 introduces my God to me as a God of War 157 00:05:53,030 --> 00:05:56,030 as some kind of Greek god of Wrath as a 158 00:05:56,030 --> 00:05:58,910 God of hate and injustice not at all as 159 00:05:58,910 --> 00:06:00,590 Adam pointed out you go through the 160 00:06:00,590 --> 00:06:02,210 Quran and you see the mercy and the love 161 00:06:02,210 --> 00:06:04,190 and the justice and yes you have verses 162 00:06:04,190 --> 00:06:06,560 that refer to warfare and violence of 163 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,240 course it does this is non emotion about 164 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,580 pacifism and I'm not here to argue that 165 00:06:10,580 --> 00:06:12,610 Islam is a pacifistic faith it is not 166 00:06:12,610 --> 00:06:15,979 Islam allows military action violence in 167 00:06:15,979 --> 00:06:18,169 certain limited contexts and yet a 168 00:06:18,169 --> 00:06:20,690 minority of Muslims do take it out of 169 00:06:20,690 --> 00:06:23,150 that context but is it religious we 170 00:06:23,150 --> 00:06:25,070 talked about Willich Daniel and 171 00:06:25,070 --> 00:06:26,599 anne-marie have suggested that it's 172 00:06:26,599 --> 00:06:28,699 definitely religion that's behind all of 173 00:06:28,699 --> 00:06:32,630 this well actually what I find so 174 00:06:32,630 --> 00:06:34,760 amusing tonight is we're having a debate 175 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,740 about Islam and the opposition tonight 176 00:06:36,740 --> 00:06:38,570 have come forward we have a graduate in 177 00:06:38,570 --> 00:06:40,099 law or graduate in modern history a 178 00:06:40,099 --> 00:06:42,560 graduate in chemistry and you know I 179 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,419 admire all of their intellects and their 180 00:06:44,419 --> 00:06:45,949 abilities but we don't have anyone who 181 00:06:45,949 --> 00:06:48,080 is actually an expert on Islam a scholar 182 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,539 of Islam a historian of Islam a speaker 183 00:06:50,539 --> 00:06:52,430 of Arabic even a terrorism expert or a 184 00:06:52,430 --> 00:06:54,680 security expert or a pollster let alone 185 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,150 to talk about what Muslims believe or 186 00:06:56,150 --> 00:06:58,610 think instead we have people coming here 187 00:06:58,610 --> 00:07:00,259 putting forward these views putting 188 00:07:00,259 --> 00:07:02,300 forward these sweeping opinions listen 189 00:07:02,300 --> 00:07:03,650 to Professor Robert Pape of the 190 00:07:03,650 --> 00:07:05,060 University of Chicago one of America's 191 00:07:05,060 --> 00:07:06,919 leading terrorism experts who unlike our 192 00:07:06,919 --> 00:07:08,840 esteemed opposition tonight studied 193 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:10,550 every single case of suicide terrorism 194 00:07:10,550 --> 00:07:14,659 between 1980 and 2005 315 cases in total 195 00:07:14,659 --> 00:07:17,330 and he concluded and I quote there is 196 00:07:17,330 --> 00:07:19,130 little connection between suicide 197 00:07:19,130 --> 00:07:20,719 terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism or 198 00:07:20,719 --> 00:07:22,639 any of the world's religions rather what 199 00:07:22,639 --> 00:07:24,289 nearly all suicide terrorist attacks 200 00:07:24,289 --> 00:07:26,060 have in common is a specific 201 00:07:26,060 --> 00:07:28,160 a killer and strategic goal to compel 202 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,840 modern democracies to withdraw military 203 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,370 forces from territory that the 204 00:07:31,370 --> 00:07:32,990 terrorists considered to be their 205 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:35,870 homeland and the irony is when we talk 206 00:07:35,870 --> 00:07:38,630 about terrorism the irony is that the 207 00:07:38,630 --> 00:07:40,910 opposition and the Muslim terrorists the 208 00:07:40,910 --> 00:07:43,190 al-qaida types actually have one thing 209 00:07:43,190 --> 00:07:45,320 in common because they both believe that 210 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,050 Islam is a warlike violent religion they 211 00:07:48,050 --> 00:07:49,910 both agree on that they have everything 212 00:07:49,910 --> 00:07:50,540 in common 213 00:07:50,540 --> 00:07:52,100 Osama bin Laden would be nodding along 214 00:07:52,100 --> 00:07:53,210 to everything is earth to know from the 215 00:07:53,210 --> 00:07:56,780 opposition that he agrees with them the 216 00:07:56,780 --> 00:07:59,990 problem is the problem is that 217 00:07:59,990 --> 00:08:02,930 mainstream Muslims don't the majority of 218 00:08:02,930 --> 00:08:05,570 Muslims around the world don't in fact a 219 00:08:05,570 --> 00:08:07,190 gentle Nick I started quoting all sorts 220 00:08:07,190 --> 00:08:08,750 of polls Gallup carried out the biggest 221 00:08:08,750 --> 00:08:10,790 poll of Muslims around all of 35,000 222 00:08:10,790 --> 00:08:13,270 fifty thousand Muslims in 35 countries 223 00:08:13,270 --> 00:08:17,300 93% of Muslims rejected 9/11 and suicide 224 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:20,180 attacks one of the 7% who didn't they 225 00:08:20,180 --> 00:08:22,639 all when pulled and focus groups cited 226 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:24,500 political reasons for their support for 227 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:26,510 violence not religious reasons and asked 228 00:08:26,510 --> 00:08:28,100 for Islamic scholars and what they say 229 00:08:28,100 --> 00:08:30,770 well Daniel talks about our University 230 00:08:30,770 --> 00:08:32,659 of Oxford we'll go down to Oxford Center 231 00:08:32,659 --> 00:08:34,370 for Islamic studies get hold of a man 232 00:08:34,370 --> 00:08:36,679 named Sheikh Afifi Alec ET who is a 233 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,179 massively well credentialed and 234 00:08:38,179 --> 00:08:39,890 well-respected Islamic scholar who has 235 00:08:39,890 --> 00:08:41,240 studied across the world who in the days 236 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,370 after 77 published the fact were 237 00:08:43,370 --> 00:08:45,080 denouncing terrorism in the name of 238 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,580 Islam calling for the protection of all 239 00:08:46,580 --> 00:08:48,320 non-combatants at all times and 240 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,240 describing suicide bombings as an 241 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,190 innovation with no basis in Islamic law 242 00:08:52,190 --> 00:08:54,350 go and listen to shake the adult ivory 243 00:08:54,350 --> 00:08:56,270 one of Pakistan's most famous Islamic 244 00:08:56,270 --> 00:08:58,700 scholars who published a 600 page fatwa 245 00:08:58,700 --> 00:09:00,589 condemning the killing of all innocence 246 00:09:00,589 --> 00:09:02,330 and all suicide bombings unconditionally 247 00:09:02,330 --> 00:09:05,180 without any ifs or buts there's nothing 248 00:09:05,180 --> 00:09:07,220 new here this is mainstream Islam 249 00:09:07,220 --> 00:09:09,230 mainstream scholarship we just said this 250 00:09:09,230 --> 00:09:10,790 for years you don't go out and kill 251 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:13,010 people willy-nilly in the high street or 252 00:09:13,010 --> 00:09:15,800 anywhere else on a bus or a mall based 253 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,630 on verses of the Quran that you 254 00:09:17,630 --> 00:09:19,550 cherry-pick without any context any 255 00:09:19,550 --> 00:09:22,060 understanding any interpretation or any 256 00:09:22,060 --> 00:09:26,860 commentary please 257 00:09:28,250 --> 00:09:32,820 well it's I didn't say it doesn't happen 258 00:09:32,820 --> 00:09:34,260 at all I never said it didn't happen I 259 00:09:34,260 --> 00:09:36,089 don't blame his son yes it's a very good 260 00:09:36,089 --> 00:09:38,190 point and a lot of us a lot of us are 261 00:09:38,190 --> 00:09:39,450 campaigning against that and we're 262 00:09:39,450 --> 00:09:40,709 campaigning against it in the name of 263 00:09:40,709 --> 00:09:42,480 Islam we're campaigning against in the 264 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:43,980 name of various interpretations of Islam 265 00:09:43,980 --> 00:09:45,870 and Marie comes and scares us with her 266 00:09:45,870 --> 00:09:47,579 talk of Sharia law I would like to see 267 00:09:47,579 --> 00:09:49,230 the book of Sharia law it doesn't exist 268 00:09:49,230 --> 00:09:51,630 people argue over what Sharia law is and 269 00:09:51,630 --> 00:09:55,709 you empower the extremists by saying 270 00:09:55,709 --> 00:09:57,630 there is only one version you empower 271 00:09:57,630 --> 00:09:58,920 them all I don't believe you took any 272 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,510 interruptions Amory so I think you 273 00:10:00,510 --> 00:10:02,540 should stay there for a moment here's 274 00:10:02,540 --> 00:10:05,339 here's what we're dealing with say that 275 00:10:05,339 --> 00:10:07,529 we're dealing with we are dealing I took 276 00:10:07,529 --> 00:10:09,000 your point I take your point here we are 277 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,519 dealing with a 1400 year old global 278 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:13,740 religion followed by 1.6 billion people 279 00:10:13,740 --> 00:10:15,300 in every corner of the world a quarter 280 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:17,130 of humanity of all backgrounds cultures 281 00:10:17,130 --> 00:10:18,660 ethnicities and yet the opposition 282 00:10:18,660 --> 00:10:20,970 tonight wants to generalize stereotype 283 00:10:20,970 --> 00:10:24,600 smear in order to desperately win this 284 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,060 debate and here's my question if we're 285 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:29,550 going to generalize and smear if okay 286 00:10:29,550 --> 00:10:31,620 people say yesterday's bombers and we've 287 00:10:31,620 --> 00:10:32,640 got to be careful there's a trial going 288 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,440 on where yesterday's attacker sorry 289 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,600 motivated by is our big debate I don't 290 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,500 believe they were let's say they were 291 00:10:37,500 --> 00:10:39,779 let's say Faisal Shahzad the Time Square 292 00:10:39,779 --> 00:10:41,370 bomber was motivated by Islam let's 293 00:10:41,370 --> 00:10:43,529 assume for sake of argument that Richard 294 00:10:43,529 --> 00:10:45,149 Reid the shoe bomber was in Israel if 295 00:10:45,149 --> 00:10:46,949 Islam is responsible for these killers 296 00:10:46,949 --> 00:10:48,149 if Islam is what is motivating these 297 00:10:48,149 --> 00:10:49,560 people and Islam is therefore not a 298 00:10:49,560 --> 00:10:50,880 religion of peace of religion war then 299 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,680 ask yourself this question why aren't 300 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:55,320 the rest of us doing it why is it such a 301 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,540 tiny minority of Muslims are 302 00:10:57,540 --> 00:10:59,250 interpreting their religion in the way 303 00:10:59,250 --> 00:11:01,079 that the opposition claim they are let's 304 00:11:01,079 --> 00:11:03,029 assume there are 16,000 suicide bombers 305 00:11:03,029 --> 00:11:04,410 in the world there aren't let's assume 306 00:11:04,410 --> 00:11:05,459 there are for the sake of argument 307 00:11:05,459 --> 00:11:08,790 that's 0.001 percent of the Muslim 308 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:10,940 population globally what about the other 309 00:11:10,940 --> 00:11:13,140 99.99% of Muslims who the opposition 310 00:11:13,140 --> 00:11:15,630 tonight either ignore or smear the 311 00:11:15,630 --> 00:11:17,310 reality is that the rest of us aren't 312 00:11:17,310 --> 00:11:18,930 blowing ourselves up tonight the reality 313 00:11:18,930 --> 00:11:20,040 is that the opposition came here tonight 314 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,480 not worried about the fact that me and 315 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,220 Adam might pull open our jacket to blow 316 00:11:23,220 --> 00:11:24,269 ourselves up today because we're 317 00:11:24,269 --> 00:11:26,130 followers of a warlike warrior religion 318 00:11:26,130 --> 00:11:27,779 which wants to take over Europe and 319 00:11:27,779 --> 00:11:30,700 Daniels University the issue is this 320 00:11:30,700 --> 00:11:38,080 the opposition can tell us tonight and 321 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,430 Peter Atkins is here one of our great 322 00:11:39,430 --> 00:11:40,690 atheist intellectuals can tell us 323 00:11:40,690 --> 00:11:40,990 tonight 324 00:11:40,990 --> 00:11:42,160 can they can answer this question 325 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:43,990 tonight well I doubt the vast majority 326 00:11:43,990 --> 00:11:45,550 of Muslims around the world behave as 327 00:11:45,550 --> 00:11:47,020 violently and aggressively as a tiny 328 00:11:47,020 --> 00:11:48,490 minority of politically motivated 329 00:11:48,490 --> 00:11:50,290 extremists then they might as well give 330 00:11:50,290 --> 00:11:51,400 up and stop pretending they have 331 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:52,960 anything relevant to say about Islam or 332 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,360 Muslims as a whole ladies in German let 333 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,710 me just say this to you think about what 334 00:11:56,710 --> 00:11:58,390 the opposite of this motion is if you 335 00:11:58,390 --> 00:11:59,620 vote no tonight think about what you're 336 00:11:59,620 --> 00:12:00,760 saying the opposite emotion is that 337 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:01,960 Islam is not a religion of peace it's a 338 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,850 religion of war of violence of terror of 339 00:12:03,850 --> 00:12:05,380 aggression that the people who follow 340 00:12:05,380 --> 00:12:07,570 Islam me my wife my retired parents my 341 00:12:07,570 --> 00:12:09,790 six-year-old child that 1.8 million of 342 00:12:09,790 --> 00:12:11,050 your fellow British residents and 343 00:12:11,050 --> 00:12:12,940 citizens at 1.6 billion people across 344 00:12:12,940 --> 00:12:14,620 the world your fellow human beings are 345 00:12:14,620 --> 00:12:18,460 all followers promoters believers in a 346 00:12:18,460 --> 00:12:20,080 religion of violence do you really think 347 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,550 that do you really believe that to be 348 00:12:21,550 --> 00:12:23,320 the case they say that in the Oxford 349 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,450 Union the most famous debate within 1933 350 00:12:25,450 --> 00:12:27,010 when Adolf Hitler looked out for the 351 00:12:27,010 --> 00:12:28,900 result of the king and country motion 352 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:30,550 where they voted against fighting for 353 00:12:30,550 --> 00:12:31,960 king and country and Hitler was 354 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,040 listening out for the result well 355 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,590 tonight 80 years on there are two groups 356 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:36,790 of people around the world who I would 357 00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:37,900 argue awaiting for the result of 358 00:12:37,900 --> 00:12:39,430 tonight's vote there are the millions of 359 00:12:39,430 --> 00:12:41,530 peaceful non-violent law-abiding Muslims 360 00:12:41,530 --> 00:12:44,110 both in the UK Europe Asia Africa and 361 00:12:44,110 --> 00:12:45,970 Beyond who see Islam as the source of 362 00:12:45,970 --> 00:12:47,620 their identity as a source of spiritual 363 00:12:47,620 --> 00:12:50,110 fulfillment of hope of Solace and there 364 00:12:50,110 --> 00:12:52,270 are the phones the haters the bigots out 365 00:12:52,270 --> 00:12:56,260 there who want to push the clash of 366 00:12:56,260 --> 00:12:58,060 civilizations who want to divide all of 367 00:12:58,060 --> 00:13:00,310 us into them and us and ours and their 368 00:13:00,310 --> 00:13:03,070 ladies in London I urge you all not to 369 00:13:03,070 --> 00:13:05,470 fuel the arguments of the phobes and 370 00:13:05,470 --> 00:13:07,270 bigots don't legitimate their divisions 371 00:13:07,270 --> 00:13:10,060 don't legitimize their hate trust those 372 00:13:10,060 --> 00:13:11,800 Muslims who you know who you've met 373 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,630 through you here who don't believe in 374 00:13:13,630 --> 00:13:16,000 violence who do want you to hear the 375 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,920 peaceful message of the Quran as they 376 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,720 believe it to be taught to the majority 377 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,370 of Muslims the Islam of peace and 378 00:13:21,370 --> 00:13:23,140 compassion and mercy the Islam of the 379 00:13:23,140 --> 00:13:25,120 Quran not of al-qaeda ladies and 380 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,920 gentlemen I beg to propose this motion 381 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,630 without I urge you to vote YES tonight 382 00:13:28,630 --> 00:13:31,440 thank you very much 27622

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