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thank you very much mr. president ladies
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and gentlemen good evening
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assalamualaikum lovely to see you all
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here tonight we are having a very
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entertaining night are we not with some
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very interesting things being said from
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the other side of the house tonight let
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me begin by saying as a Muslim as a
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representative of Islam I would consider
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myself an ambassador for Islam a
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believer in Islam a follower of Islam
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and its prophet so in that capacity let
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me begin by apologizing to anne-marie
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for the Bali bombings I apologize for
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the role of my religion and me and my
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people for the killing of theo van gogh
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for 7/7 yes that was all of us
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that was Islam that was Muslims that was
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the Quran I mean astonishing astonishing
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claims to make in the very first speech
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not on a day like today where the
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conservative Prime Minister of the
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United Kingdom is having to come out and
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point out that these kind of views are
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anathema and I believe you're trying to
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stand for the Labor Party to become an
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MP in Brighton if you do and you make
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these comments I'm guessing you'll have
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the wit withdrawn from you but then
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again you Kipps on the rise they'll take
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you the BNP they might have something to
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say about your views away
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away by the way thanks by the way by the
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way sort of factual points as we heard a
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lot about the second speaker about
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backward we Muslims all are on a factual
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point you said that Islam was born in
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Saudi Arabia Islam was born in 610 ad
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Saudi Arabia was born in 1932 ad so you
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were only 1300 of 22 years off not bad
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not bad start they're talking of maths
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by the way a man named hour is me with
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one of the greatest mathematicians of
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all time a Muslim worked in the Golden
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Age of Islam
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he's the guy who came up with not just
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algebra but algorithms without
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algorithms you wouldn't have laptops
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without laptops Daniel Johnson tonight
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wouldn't been able to print out his
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speech in which he came to berate as
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Muslims for holding back the advance and
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intellectual achievements of the West
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which all happened without any
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contribution from anyone else other than
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the judeo-christian people of Europe in
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fact Daniel David levering the author of
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the Pulitzer prize-winning historian and
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author of the golden crucible pointer
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that there would be no Renaissance there
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would be no Reformation in Europe
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without the role played by even a sinner
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and even though Roche than some of the
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great Muslim theologians philosopher
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scientist in bringing peace to Europe
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as for this being our University I will
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leave that to the imagination as to who
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is our and who is there I studied here
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to an astonishing astonishing set of
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speeches so far making this case tonight
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a mixture of just cherry-picked quotes
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facts and figures self-serving
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selectively a farrago of distortions
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misrepresentations misinterpretations
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miss quotations Daniel talked about my
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article in the New Statesman which got
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me a lot of flack where I talked about
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the anti-semitism that is prevalent in
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some parts of the Muslim community which
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indeed it is of course I didn't say in
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that piece that it was caused by the
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religion of Islam in fact modern
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anti-semitism in the Middle East was
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imported from finish the sentence
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Christian Judeo Christian Europe where I
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believe some certain bad things happen
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to the Jewish people in fact Tom
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Friedman Jewish American columnist in
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New York Times told me in this very
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chamber last week that he believed had
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Muslims been running Europe in the 1940s
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six million extra Jews would still be
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alive today so I'm not going to take
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lessons in anti-semitism from someone
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who's here to defend the judeo-christian
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values of a continent of murder of six
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million Jews moving swiftly on moving
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swiftly on yes
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absolutely well I'm about to read a
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point no no no I'm about to make the
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point you're right I agree with you
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I agree with you I agree with you 110%
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that is my point I don't think Europe is
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evil or bad I'm a very proud European I
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don't want to judge Europe on the basis
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but if we're going to play this gutter
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game where we pull out the barley
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bombing and we pull out examples of
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anti-semitism this lymangood then of
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course I'm going to come back and say
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well hold on I mean look let's be very
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clear
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Daniel here was a last minute
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replacement for Douglas Murray who had
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to pull out and Douglas and I have a
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well-documented differences but to be
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fair to Douglas has to be fair to
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anne-marie and to Peter atheists
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atheists see all religions as evil
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violent threatening what the problem I
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have with Daniel speech is that Daniel
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comes here to wrap this robust defense
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of Christianity forgetting that his
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fellow Christians people who said they
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were acting in the name of Jesus gave us
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the Crusades the Spanish Inquisition the
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anti-jewish pogroms European colonialism
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in Africa and Asia the Lord's Resistance
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Army in Uganda not to mention countless
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arson and bomb attacks on abortion
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clinics in the United States of America
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to this very day I would like a little
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bit of humility from Daniel first before
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he begins lecturing other communities
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and other faiths on violent terror and
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intolerance but no thank you
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but I would say this to address the
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gentleman's very valid point here I'm
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not going to play that game I don't
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actually believe that Christianity is a
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religion of violence and hate because of
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what the LRA does in Uganda or what what
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Crusaders did to Jews and Muslims in
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Jerusalem and they took back the city in
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the 12th or 13th whatever century it was
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I believe that Christianity like Islam
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like pretty much every mainstream
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religion is based on love and compassion
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and faith I do follow a religion in
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which hundred and thirteen out of 114
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chapters of the Quran begins by
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introducing the God of Islam as a God of
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mercy and compassion I would not have it
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any other way
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I don't follow a religion which
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introduces my God to me as a God of War
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as some kind of Greek god of Wrath as a
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God of hate and injustice not at all as
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Adam pointed out you go through the
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Quran and you see the mercy and the love
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and the justice and yes you have verses
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that refer to warfare and violence of
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course it does this is non emotion about
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pacifism and I'm not here to argue that
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Islam is a pacifistic faith it is not
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Islam allows military action violence in
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certain limited contexts and yet a
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minority of Muslims do take it out of
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that context but is it religious we
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talked about Willich Daniel and
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anne-marie have suggested that it's
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definitely religion that's behind all of
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this well actually what I find so
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amusing tonight is we're having a debate
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about Islam and the opposition tonight
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have come forward we have a graduate in
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law or graduate in modern history a
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graduate in chemistry and you know I
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admire all of their intellects and their
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abilities but we don't have anyone who
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is actually an expert on Islam a scholar
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of Islam a historian of Islam a speaker
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of Arabic even a terrorism expert or a
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security expert or a pollster let alone
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to talk about what Muslims believe or
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think instead we have people coming here
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putting forward these views putting
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forward these sweeping opinions listen
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to Professor Robert Pape of the
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University of Chicago one of America's
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leading terrorism experts who unlike our
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esteemed opposition tonight studied
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every single case of suicide terrorism
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between 1980 and 2005 315 cases in total
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and he concluded and I quote there is
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little connection between suicide
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terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism or
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any of the world's religions rather what
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nearly all suicide terrorist attacks
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have in common is a specific
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a killer and strategic goal to compel
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modern democracies to withdraw military
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forces from territory that the
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terrorists considered to be their
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homeland and the irony is when we talk
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about terrorism the irony is that the
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opposition and the Muslim terrorists the
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al-qaida types actually have one thing
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in common because they both believe that
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Islam is a warlike violent religion they
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both agree on that they have everything
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in common
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Osama bin Laden would be nodding along
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to everything is earth to know from the
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opposition that he agrees with them the
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problem is the problem is that
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mainstream Muslims don't the majority of
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Muslims around the world don't in fact a
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gentle Nick I started quoting all sorts
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of polls Gallup carried out the biggest
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poll of Muslims around all of 35,000
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fifty thousand Muslims in 35 countries
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93% of Muslims rejected 9/11 and suicide
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attacks one of the 7% who didn't they
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all when pulled and focus groups cited
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political reasons for their support for
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violence not religious reasons and asked
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for Islamic scholars and what they say
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well Daniel talks about our University
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of Oxford we'll go down to Oxford Center
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for Islamic studies get hold of a man
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named Sheikh Afifi Alec ET who is a
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massively well credentialed and
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well-respected Islamic scholar who has
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studied across the world who in the days
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after 77 published the fact were
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denouncing terrorism in the name of
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Islam calling for the protection of all
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non-combatants at all times and
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describing suicide bombings as an
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innovation with no basis in Islamic law
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go and listen to shake the adult ivory
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one of Pakistan's most famous Islamic
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scholars who published a 600 page fatwa
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condemning the killing of all innocence
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and all suicide bombings unconditionally
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without any ifs or buts there's nothing
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new here this is mainstream Islam
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mainstream scholarship we just said this
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for years you don't go out and kill
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people willy-nilly in the high street or
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anywhere else on a bus or a mall based
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on verses of the Quran that you
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cherry-pick without any context any
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understanding any interpretation or any
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commentary please
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well it's I didn't say it doesn't happen
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at all I never said it didn't happen I
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don't blame his son yes it's a very good
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point and a lot of us a lot of us are
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campaigning against that and we're
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campaigning against it in the name of
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Islam we're campaigning against in the
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name of various interpretations of Islam
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and Marie comes and scares us with her
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talk of Sharia law I would like to see
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the book of Sharia law it doesn't exist
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people argue over what Sharia law is and
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you empower the extremists by saying
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there is only one version you empower
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them all I don't believe you took any
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interruptions Amory so I think you
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should stay there for a moment here's
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here's what we're dealing with say that
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we're dealing with we are dealing I took
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your point I take your point here we are
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dealing with a 1400 year old global
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religion followed by 1.6 billion people
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in every corner of the world a quarter
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of humanity of all backgrounds cultures
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ethnicities and yet the opposition
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tonight wants to generalize stereotype
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smear in order to desperately win this
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debate and here's my question if we're
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going to generalize and smear if okay
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people say yesterday's bombers and we've
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got to be careful there's a trial going
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on where yesterday's attacker sorry
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motivated by is our big debate I don't
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believe they were let's say they were
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let's say Faisal Shahzad the Time Square
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bomber was motivated by Islam let's
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assume for sake of argument that Richard
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Reid the shoe bomber was in Israel if
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Islam is responsible for these killers
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if Islam is what is motivating these
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people and Islam is therefore not a
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religion of peace of religion war then
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ask yourself this question why aren't
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the rest of us doing it why is it such a
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tiny minority of Muslims are
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interpreting their religion in the way
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that the opposition claim they are let's
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assume there are 16,000 suicide bombers
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in the world there aren't let's assume
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there are for the sake of argument
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that's 0.001 percent of the Muslim
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population globally what about the other
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99.99% of Muslims who the opposition
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tonight either ignore or smear the
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reality is that the rest of us aren't
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blowing ourselves up tonight the reality
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is that the opposition came here tonight
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not worried about the fact that me and
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Adam might pull open our jacket to blow
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ourselves up today because we're
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followers of a warlike warrior religion
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which wants to take over Europe and
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Daniels University the issue is this
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the opposition can tell us tonight and
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Peter Atkins is here one of our great
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atheist intellectuals can tell us
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tonight
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can they can answer this question
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tonight well I doubt the vast majority
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of Muslims around the world behave as
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violently and aggressively as a tiny
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minority of politically motivated
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extremists then they might as well give
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up and stop pretending they have
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anything relevant to say about Islam or
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Muslims as a whole ladies in German let
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me just say this to you think about what
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the opposite of this motion is if you
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vote no tonight think about what you're
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saying the opposite emotion is that
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Islam is not a religion of peace it's a
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religion of war of violence of terror of
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aggression that the people who follow
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Islam me my wife my retired parents my
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six-year-old child that 1.8 million of
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your fellow British residents and
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citizens at 1.6 billion people across
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the world your fellow human beings are
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all followers promoters believers in a
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religion of violence do you really think
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that do you really believe that to be
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the case they say that in the Oxford
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Union the most famous debate within 1933
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when Adolf Hitler looked out for the
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result of the king and country motion
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where they voted against fighting for
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king and country and Hitler was
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listening out for the result well
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tonight 80 years on there are two groups
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of people around the world who I would
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argue awaiting for the result of
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tonight's vote there are the millions of
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peaceful non-violent law-abiding Muslims
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both in the UK Europe Asia Africa and
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Beyond who see Islam as the source of
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their identity as a source of spiritual
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fulfillment of hope of Solace and there
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are the phones the haters the bigots out
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there who want to push the clash of
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civilizations who want to divide all of
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us into them and us and ours and their
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ladies in London I urge you all not to
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fuel the arguments of the phobes and
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bigots don't legitimate their divisions
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don't legitimize their hate trust those
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Muslims who you know who you've met
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through you here who don't believe in
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violence who do want you to hear the
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peaceful message of the Quran as they
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believe it to be taught to the majority
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of Muslims the Islam of peace and
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compassion and mercy the Islam of the
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Quran not of al-qaeda ladies and
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gentlemen I beg to propose this motion
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without I urge you to vote YES tonight
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thank you very much
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