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I listen to Fleetwood Mac everyday
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because artists like that
unlock the doors of perception.
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They connect you to a creative soul.
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In terms of being able to do music
across a multiplicity of genres,
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they're kind of incomparable.
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For me, it's the marriage
of those tones,
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both of the voices
but of the instruments.
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And what I love about Fleetwood Mac
is that no song
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is really a show-off song
for anyone.
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Everyone kind of gets their moment.
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They're the perfect example of
letting go
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and just, just
letting your thing flow.
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Where it leads, if you let it flow,
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is these songs that came out of
these different marriages.
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Well, Fleetwood Mac were invented
by Peter Green,
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who was a blues guitarist
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and part of the British
blues guitar explosion of the time.
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A kind of Clapton-y, Yardbirds
thing was going on around there,
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and he started Fleetwood Mac
and it's very much his baby.
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Peter Green recruited Mick Fleetwood
on drums and John McVie on bass,
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and they were the name -
Fleetwood Mac.
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They were huge.
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At one point they were selling
more than the Beatles
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and the Rolling Stones combined,
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and had a really big
hard-core blues following.
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Albatross changed that slightly
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in that they became
slightly more mainstream.
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But in doing that, it lost them
a lot of those hard-core blues fans,
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but it gained them
a lot of new fans.
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INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC: Albatross
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It sounds incredible,
even all these years later.
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It's just got that
classic Americana...
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..kind of dream pop,
dream-like vibe.
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But it also wouldn't feel out
of place on kind of...
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almost like a '90s chill-out album
as well.
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To have established a blues fan base
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and to then present them with this,
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I can't imagine it was well-received
by all of their fans.
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It certainly would
confound expectations.
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Certainly, I think, a lot of people
would be surprised
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if they heard
the entire back catalogue.
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I used to listen to a lot of kind of
rock and roll and punk music,
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and there's a Fleetwood Mac song,
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I think it's called Somebody's Going
to Get Their Head Kicked in Tonight.
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That's certainly the kind of,
the chorus of the main line.
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Somebody's going to
get their head kicked in tonight.
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And I just...
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I don't think
when I first heard that song
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I realised it was Fleetwood Mac
that sang it.
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Then when I realised it was
and it was the same people
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that sing, like, Everywhere,
I was just like,
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"What? That doesn't make sense."
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So, yeah, there's
lots of surprising gems
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in the Fleetwood Mac back catalogue.
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We're now going to do our
latest single, called Oh Well.
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I can't help
about the shape I'm in
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I can't sing, I ain't pretty
and my legs are thin
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But don't ask me
what I think of you
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I might not give the answer
that you want me to...
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Guitars are
the coolest...instrument.
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Look at those guys!
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Look at them, they're having fun.
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They don't care that you're there.
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The way he's playing, the way his
fingers are, and they look so cool.
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Now, when I talked to God
I knew he'd understand
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He said, stick by me
and I'll be your guiding hand
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But don't ask me
what I think of you
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I might not give the answer
that you want me to.
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It was very, erm, intense kind of
12-bar, it has to be 12-bar.
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The anorak crowd, the sort of
hard-core blues guys were like,
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"Oh, you're a sell-out."
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And with "Oh Well" as well,
they're already losing fans,
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haemorrhaging hard-core blues fans.
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and then they lose
their main songwriter.
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So they don't just lose their crowd,
they lose their main guy.
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Apparently, two band members,
Peter Green being one of them,
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had a bad acid trip in Germany,
this is the folklore of it.
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And after that, Peter Green
did not feel right.
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So at this point, obviously, Peter
Green just needs a really good rest.
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So Peter leaves
and you still have Mick and John,
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Fleetwood and Mac,
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who obviously want to continue
as a band.
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And so you have this kind of
almost barren period
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where they're not making music,
they're constantly searching
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and trying out new members.
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Then in comes Christine,
John's wife,
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who comes in on merit
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because she's an incredibly
accomplished songwriter,
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great keyboard player.
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Which led to this craziest luck
ever with Mick Fleetwood going
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into a studio in Los Angeles
to check out the studio,
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and the producer, like, puts on
a reel to show him what he can do,
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"This is what I last...
This is my latest thing."
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Apparently, Mick Fleetwood
heard a record by a duo called
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Buckingham Nicks,
so he asked them out for dinner.
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He invited Lindsey Buckingham,
the guitarist,
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to join Fleetwood Mac
and Lindsey Buckingham said,
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"Well, actually, I'm going out with
Stevie Nicks,"
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who is the other partner in
the duo, "We come as a package.
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"We don't go anywhere
without each other."
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So, unbeknownst to Mick Fleetwood,
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suddenly he's got Stevie Nicks
in the band.
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And probably this was a sort of,
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"Is she going to work? Is this going
to work? What are we going to do?"
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But actually, suddenly,
the magic happens.
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Have mercy, baby
on a poor girl like me
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You know, I'm falling, falling
Falling at your feet
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I'm tingling right through
my head to my toes
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So help me, help me, help me
make the feeling go
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Cos when the loving starts
and the lights go down
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And there's not
another living soul around
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You woo me until the sun comes up
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And you say that you love me
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Have pity, baby
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Just when I thought it was over
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You got me running, running,
running for cover
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I'm begging you
for a little sympathy
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And if you use me again
it'll be the end of me
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Cos when the loving starts
and the lights go down
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There's not another little...
Oh, look at that!
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You woo me
until the sun comes up...
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And they're so different voices,
as well.
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You know, Christine and Stevie's
voices are worlds apart.
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But together...
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..it's so special.
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So much of the success of
the songwriting has come from
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Stevie and Christine. Their talent
as performers and musicians,
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you know, no arguments there.
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But in terms of what went on,
in terms of the songwriting,
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I don't think they get the credit
that they're due for how much
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of the success of Fleetwood Mac
is due to them.
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Baby, baby, hope you're
gonna stay away
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Cos I'm getting weaker, weaker,
weaker every day
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I guess I'm not as strong
as I used to be
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And if you use me again
it'll be the end of me
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Cos when the loving starts
and the lights go down
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And there's not another
living soul around
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You woo me until the sun comes up
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And you say that you love me
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Yes, when the loving starts
and the lights go down
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There's not another
living soul around
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You woo me until the sun comes up
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And you say that you love me
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Say that you love me
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Say that you love me.
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Rhiannon is written by Stevie Nicks,
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and I really think
it's a phenomenal song.
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It only reached 46 in the UK charts,
I believe,
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which is a shockingly low
chart position.
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In the Rolling Stone magazine vote
of the 500 top songs,
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it comes in at 488, which I think
is a very respectful place
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when you think of how many songs
there are in the world.
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But what I like about this song,
Stevie Nicks always introduces it
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as being about a Welsh witch.
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This is a song about a Welsh witch.
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Rhiannon rings like a bell
through the night
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And wouldn't you love to love her?
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She rules her life
like a bird in flight
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And who will be her lover?
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All your life
you've never seen a woman
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Taken by the wind
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Would you stay
if she promised you heaven?
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Will you ever win?
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She is like a cat in the dark
and then she is the darkness
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She rules her life
like a fine skylark
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And when the sky is starless
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Once in a million years
a lady like her rises
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Rhiannon...
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At the time, she was very much into
Welsh mythology
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and was starting to learn about
the goddess of horses,
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which is very prominent
in Welsh folklore.
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But it's the way she's written it.
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She writes in
a stream of consciousness,
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which really only
Stevie Nicks could do.
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She doesn't finish her phrases,
so she writes words that fit
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the musical phrase
more than they fit the sense,
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but it works
because that's how she writes.
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It's ingrained,
it's part of her DNA,
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she's not faking it.
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She's discovered what works
for her voice.
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She rings like a bell
through the night
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And wouldn't you love to love her?
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She rules her life
like a bird in flight
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And who will be her lover?
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Once in a million years
a lady like her rises
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Rhiannon, you cry when she's gone
and your life knows no answer
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And your life knows no answer.
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Stevie Nicks was the only member
of the band
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who didn't play an instrument,
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so she wrote in a different way
to everybody else.
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But she has this stage presence.
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She's 5'1" and she has that thing
of suddenly she's the focal point.
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I don't think they predicted
the success she would have,
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just as being an icon,
just as being herself.
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Yes, you can't mistake her
for anybody else.
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Taken by, taken by the sky
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Taken by, taken by the sky
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Taken by, taken by the sky
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No, ohh.
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so ahead of its time.
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Creating those sounds without
a pick - he was a finger player -
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but also strums.
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It's just mind-blowing.
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John's like, you know, he just
stands in the background there
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and does his thing brilliantly
and is so intrinsically important
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to the sound of that band.
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John and Mick, you know, those
two are the... They're the roots
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of Fleetwood Mac,
they're the foundations, really,
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and the quiet foundations.
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Just get on with
what they're doing.
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The notion of something beautiful
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coming out of something
so horrendous is Rumours.
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This was a band who,
the success of the Mac was growing,
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they were a hugely popular band.
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But as they were becoming
more and more successful,
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the band were imploding, really.
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You know, relationships
were breaking down.
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Rumours is really a break-up album
between Buckingham and Nicks
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and also John and Christine,
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and Mick Fleetwood was breaking up
with his wife in England.
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Almost every song
is about someone in the band.
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And they are playing on, and
singing on, songs about each other,
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bringing lyrics in at the
last minute because they know
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the person in the room
will know it's about them,
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and obviously it's complete chaos
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and yet those tensions
are the things that make it.
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And some of those songs
are quite mellifluous
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and they're quite soothing and then
you realise what they're about -
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they're about a band
hating each other.
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And then to just air that
about each other, it's...
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It's a lot of tolerance on each side
to allow it, you know,
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and not throw around tools
and just walk out.
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Loving you isn't
the right thing to do
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How can I ever change things
that I feel?
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If I could, baby
I'd give you my world
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How can I
when you won't take it from me?
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You can go your own way
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Go your own way
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You can call it
another lonely day.
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Stevie Nicks is looking daggers
at Lindsey Buckingham because
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she wanted a line removed -
"packing up, shacking up" -
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which is Lindsey Buckingham
responding to the shock
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of Stevie Nicks leaving him.
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Packing up, shacking up
is all you wanna do
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If I could, baby
I'd give you my world
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Open up
Everything's waiting for you
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You can go your own way
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Go your own way
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You can call it another lonely day
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You can go your own way
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Go your own way
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You can go your own way
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Go your own way
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You can call it another lonely day
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Another lonely day
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You can go your own way
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Go your own way
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You can call it another...
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It's a really brilliantly
arranged song.
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Backing vocals, for me,
are one of the most magical parts
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of making a record and Fleetwood Mac
are an absolute flag in the sand
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for how to do backing vocals and
how to sing together as a group.
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And the song's got such
a beautiful example of those.
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You can call it another lonely day
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Oh, yeah, oh, yeah
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You can call it
another lonely day.
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Fleetwood Mac have found their way
into my songs.
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There's one particular song, Dreams,
which was...
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A friend of mine had put on
a mix tape and the tape got stuck
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in the tape player in my first car.
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It was the first song
on the first side,
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so when it went round,
when it clicked both sides,
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it came back to that again.
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And I must have heard that song
hundreds and hundreds of times.
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I went from loving this song
to absolutely hating it,
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like really getting on my nerves,
to loving it again.
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That's never happened before.
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It's always - you love it,
then you hate it,
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then it's, "I'm never going to
hear that again."
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"Thunder only happens
when it's raining,
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"raining, raining, raining," and
it's probably somehow eked out
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Why Does It Always Rain On Me?
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Maybe. Who knows?!
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Now there you go again, you say
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You want your freedom
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Well, who am I to keep you down?
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It's only right that you should
play the way you feel it
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But listen carefully to the sound
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Of your loneliness
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Like a heartbeat drives you mad
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In the stillness of remembering
what you had
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And what you lost
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And what you had
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Ooh, what you lost
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Thunder only happens
when it's raining
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Players only love you
when they're playing
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Say women they will come
and they go
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When the rain washes you clean
you'll know.
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Dreams is a really fascinating song
to me because I don't
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really understand why
I love it so much.
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Because it's a groove.
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It really comes down to the
testament of Stevie Nicks' voice.
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And someone else doing it,
it could've been really dull.
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Well, here I go again
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I see crystal visions
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I keep my visions to myself
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It's only me who wants to wrap
around your dreams and
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Have you any dreams
you'd like to sell?
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Great songs come from below
the neck, they come from your gut,
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where all these memories and
emotional memories are trapped,
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and this is where
your emotional life is.
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It's not up here, it's down here.
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And if you're going through
really harsh emotional stuff,
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it's very easy to go down.
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Them going through
these crazy relationships
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in the making of that record
is exactly what makes that record.
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Thunder only happens
when it's raining
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Players only love you
when they're playing
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Say women they will come
and they will go, oh, oh
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When the rain washes you clean
you'll know
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Ohh
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Thunder only happens
when it's raining
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Players only love you
when they're playing
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Well
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Women they will come
and they will go
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When the rain washes you clean
you'll know.
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So you've got these kind of
call and response songs going on
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between Stevie and Lindsey,
and then on the other side
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with John and Christine, Christine's
off doing her, you know,
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I guess therapy
of getting it all out through song.
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And she comes back with
this brilliantly, kind of bouncy,
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breezy song about, you know,
tomorrow's just another day.
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It's amazing to think that
these songs came out of that.
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00:27:26,380 --> 00:27:28,580
The thing for me is like,
is she saying it to herself
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or is she saying it to John?
336
00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:33,100
You know, "Don't stop thinking
about tomorrow,"
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to herself or to John?
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00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:37,580
Or to the entire band?
Let's be fair!
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00:27:46,980 --> 00:27:50,380
If you wake up
and don't want to smile
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If it takes just a little while
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Open your eyes and look at the day
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00:27:57,740 --> 00:28:01,740
You'll see things
in a different way
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00:28:01,740 --> 00:28:05,780
Don't stop thinking
about tomorrow
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00:28:05,780 --> 00:28:09,500
Don't stop, it'll soon be here
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00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:13,020
It'll be better than before
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00:28:13,020 --> 00:28:16,900
Yesterday's gone, yesterday's gone
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00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:28,460
Why not think about the times
to come?
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00:28:28,460 --> 00:28:32,220
And not about the things
that you've done
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00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:36,180
If your life was bad to you
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00:28:36,180 --> 00:28:39,860
Just think what tomorrow will do
351
00:28:39,860 --> 00:28:43,380
Don't stop thinking about tomorrow
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00:28:43,380 --> 00:28:47,740
Don't stop, it'll soon be here
353
00:28:47,740 --> 00:28:50,940
It'll be better than before
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Yesterday's gone,
yesterday's gone.
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Lyrically, it's just a masterclass
in really saying
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00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:05,940
exactly what you're talking about,
you're not being that veiled.
357
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:09,420
But you're saying sometimes
quite cliched things
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in a way that speaks of
something new, that speaks of
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00:29:13,540 --> 00:29:16,580
something rawer than just
a regular cliche.
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00:29:17,580 --> 00:29:21,620
All I want is to see you smile
361
00:29:21,620 --> 00:29:24,940
If it takes just a little while
362
00:29:24,940 --> 00:29:28,900
I know you don't believe
that it's true
363
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:32,340
I never meant any harm to you
364
00:29:32,340 --> 00:29:35,980
Don't stop thinking about tomorrow
365
00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:37,660
Don't stop
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00:29:37,660 --> 00:29:39,900
It'll soon be here
367
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:43,580
It'll be better than before
368
00:29:43,580 --> 00:29:47,340
Yesterday's gone, yesterday's gone
369
00:29:47,340 --> 00:29:51,060
Don't stop thinking about tomorrow
370
00:29:51,060 --> 00:29:54,980
Don't stop, it'll soon be here
371
00:29:54,980 --> 00:29:58,500
It'll be better than before
372
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:02,500
Yesterday's gone, yesterday's gone
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00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:05,060
Ooh
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00:30:05,060 --> 00:30:08,780
Don't you look back.
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00:30:10,780 --> 00:30:15,500
Before I knew what The Chain was
as a song, that bass riff I knew
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00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:19,460
from watching Formula 1,
or my dad watching Formula 1.
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00:30:19,460 --> 00:30:23,780
And then it was only years later
discovering that it was part of
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00:30:23,780 --> 00:30:27,260
this epic kind of almost opera,
from Rumours, The Chain.
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00:30:27,260 --> 00:30:30,940
It's my favourite Fleetwood Mac song
because it's so...
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When you hear it for the first time,
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00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:34,940
it takes you here, there
and everywhere,
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00:30:34,940 --> 00:30:37,300
it's so unexpected
as to where it goes.
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00:30:37,300 --> 00:30:41,500
For me, I think it's one of
the best songs ever made.
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Listen to the wind blow
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00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:53,820
Watch the sun rise
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00:30:58,780 --> 00:31:01,220
Running in the shadows
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00:31:01,220 --> 00:31:05,420
Damn your love, damn your lies
388
00:31:08,460 --> 00:31:11,460
And if you don't love me now
389
00:31:11,460 --> 00:31:14,500
You will never love me again
390
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:17,780
I can still hear you saying
391
00:31:17,780 --> 00:31:20,220
You would never break the chain
392
00:31:20,220 --> 00:31:21,660
Never break the chain
393
00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:23,260
And if you don't love me now
394
00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:24,700
If you don't love me now
395
00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:26,980
You will never love me again
396
00:31:26,980 --> 00:31:30,260
I can still hear you saying
397
00:31:30,260 --> 00:31:32,740
You would never break the chain
398
00:31:32,740 --> 00:31:34,820
Never break the chain
399
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:51,100
Listen to the wind blow
400
00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:54,740
Down comes the night
401
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:03,380
Running in the shadows
402
00:32:03,380 --> 00:32:08,260
Damn your love, damn your lies
403
00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:15,620
Break the silence
404
00:32:15,620 --> 00:32:18,580
Damn the dark, damn the light
405
00:32:18,580 --> 00:32:20,340
Light, the light
406
00:32:22,780 --> 00:32:25,340
And if you don't love me now...
407
00:32:25,340 --> 00:32:29,500
It's just the most haunting sound,
and the choice of the key
408
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:33,460
and the choice of the words of being
"silent in the night
409
00:32:33,460 --> 00:32:38,100
"as the sun comes up" and saying,
"If you don't love me now,
410
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:40,780
"you'll never love me again,"
it's...
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00:32:40,780 --> 00:32:42,900
just utterly heartbreaking.
412
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:45,740
Look at the way Stevie Nicks
is looking at him.
413
00:32:45,740 --> 00:32:47,380
Never break the chain.
414
00:32:47,380 --> 00:32:50,420
Oh, it's just so cruel
the way she's looking at him.
415
00:32:50,420 --> 00:32:53,420
I mean, one could say you could see
the pain in their eyes,
416
00:32:53,420 --> 00:32:55,660
even on this reunion.
417
00:32:55,660 --> 00:33:00,580
It's as if they're solving
their relationship problems
418
00:33:00,580 --> 00:33:02,140
in front of an audience.
419
00:33:05,660 --> 00:33:07,980
This is another thing
that I love about this band.
420
00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:12,940
This is about six different songs,
that didn't work as whole songs,
421
00:33:13,780 --> 00:33:16,900
that they just cut up
and spliced together.
422
00:33:47,740 --> 00:33:50,380
I always used to be going round,
kind of going...
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00:33:50,380 --> 00:33:52,740
SHE IMITATES 'THE CHAIN' RIFF
424
00:33:52,740 --> 00:33:54,980
..when I was little
and I didn't know what the song was.
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00:33:54,980 --> 00:33:57,620
And then when I came to get to know
the album when I was much older,
426
00:33:57,620 --> 00:34:00,340
I was like, "No way!"
427
00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:02,780
Chain
428
00:34:02,780 --> 00:34:04,780
Keep us together
429
00:34:06,580 --> 00:34:08,780
Chain
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00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:10,620
Keep us together
431
00:34:10,620 --> 00:34:12,660
Running in the shadow
432
00:34:12,660 --> 00:34:14,820
Chain
433
00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:17,140
Keep us together
434
00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:20,780
Chain
435
00:34:20,780 --> 00:34:23,260
Keep us together
436
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:27,100
Chain
437
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:29,260
Keep us together.
439
00:34:32,340 --> 00:34:35,460
Rumours sold 45 million copies -
how do you follow that up?
440
00:34:35,460 --> 00:34:38,340
Especially how do you follow that up
when the band has just
441
00:34:38,340 --> 00:34:41,700
gone through what it's gone through
to make that record
442
00:34:41,700 --> 00:34:44,780
and then the success that it has?
443
00:34:44,780 --> 00:34:47,420
I mean, they could've quite easily
just walked away
444
00:34:47,420 --> 00:34:49,300
and broke up as a band,
but they didn't.
445
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:53,940
For me, what happened after Rumours
is possibly more interesting,
446
00:34:53,940 --> 00:34:56,940
as a creative writer, because
they went against the grain
447
00:34:56,940 --> 00:35:01,980
and they did Tusk,
which is critically acclaimed
448
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:04,660
but not a huge commercial success.
449
00:35:04,660 --> 00:35:07,380
So when Tusk came out,
I can remember the industry
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00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:10,780
almost glorifying in pulling
them apart and saying,
451
00:35:10,780 --> 00:35:13,820
"Oh, doesn't work,
it's the end of them."
452
00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:16,900
But like all great legendary bands,
in retrospect,
453
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:19,460
the audience catches up with
their work.
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00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:22,180
Tusk is interesting because
they're really being pulled
455
00:35:22,180 --> 00:35:24,940
in different directions and some
of it does sound like punk rock.
456
00:35:24,940 --> 00:35:27,380
Again, it's a band literally
being pulled apart
457
00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:30,180
because they really can't stand
each other at that point.
458
00:35:30,180 --> 00:35:32,700
But also,
they don't know where...
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00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:34,420
musically, where they're going.
460
00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:37,580
Mick Fleetwood, the drummer,
is managing them at this point.
461
00:35:37,580 --> 00:35:39,660
So they are allowed to do
what the hell they like
462
00:35:39,660 --> 00:35:42,500
and they're spending
extraordinary amounts of money,
463
00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:45,300
not just on studio time,
but on poodles and things.
464
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:47,020
You hear stories of them painting...
465
00:35:47,020 --> 00:35:48,820
"Paint the whole place pink!"
466
00:35:48,820 --> 00:35:50,940
You know, "Let's bring in
a grand piano."
467
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:54,460
It's just a ridiculous amount
of expense and excess.
468
00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:59,380
Why don't you ask him
if he's going to stay?
469
00:35:59,380 --> 00:36:04,380
Why don't you ask him
if he's going away?
470
00:36:15,620 --> 00:36:20,500
Why don't you tell me
what's going on?
471
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:25,500
Why don't you tell me
who's on the phone?
472
00:36:30,420 --> 00:36:33,340
I don't know where the idea
came from, for Mick.
473
00:36:33,340 --> 00:36:35,140
He just loves a lot of drums.
474
00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:39,780
So he had the University College
of California, I think it was,
475
00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:44,020
their marching band, not only play
on the end of the track,
476
00:36:44,020 --> 00:36:47,180
but for the video they were
in the LA Dodgers' stadium,
477
00:36:47,180 --> 00:36:49,380
Stevie was twirling her baton.
478
00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:51,900
You might notice a cardboard
cut-out of John,
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00:36:51,900 --> 00:36:54,260
that's because Stevie and him
had a fall-out
480
00:36:54,260 --> 00:36:56,220
so he didn't want to come that day.
481
00:36:56,220 --> 00:36:58,060
I just love the bombasticness of it.
482
00:36:58,060 --> 00:37:00,900
Kind of, "I tell you what we're
going to do, we're going to fill
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00:37:00,900 --> 00:37:04,340
"the LA Dodgers' stadium with
a marching band and shoot a video.
484
00:37:04,340 --> 00:37:05,980
"That's what we're going to do!"
485
00:37:05,980 --> 00:37:09,540
And they could, because they were
the biggest band in the world
486
00:37:09,540 --> 00:37:12,860
at that time, in terms of
how many records they were selling
487
00:37:12,860 --> 00:37:14,860
and how many hits they'd had
off that record.
488
00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:17,940
So I think they were almost
testing everyone as well
489
00:37:17,940 --> 00:37:20,980
and just seeing what
they could get away with.
490
00:37:20,980 --> 00:37:23,260
Tusk!
491
00:37:23,260 --> 00:37:25,020
Just say that you love me
492
00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:26,860
Hiyee
493
00:37:34,180 --> 00:37:36,260
Don't say that you...
494
00:37:46,980 --> 00:37:48,700
Tusk.
495
00:38:11,380 --> 00:38:15,100
I know that the album Tusk certainly
took some of the millions of fans
496
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:18,260
that they had acquired
through the success of Rumours
497
00:38:18,260 --> 00:38:20,340
by surprise
because it's very different.
498
00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:23,500
To me, though,
this immediately sounds cooler
499
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:25,060
than anything on Rumours.
500
00:38:25,060 --> 00:38:29,180
And while it might not have had
the same initial level of, like,
501
00:38:29,180 --> 00:38:33,660
just staggering success,
I think with the passage of time,
502
00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:36,940
it's kind of maybe borne out
as being cooler.
503
00:38:43,340 --> 00:38:45,660
Wait a minute, baby
504
00:38:46,900 --> 00:38:50,420
Stay with me awhile
505
00:38:50,420 --> 00:38:53,020
Said you'd give me light
506
00:38:53,020 --> 00:38:57,300
But you never told me
about the fire
507
00:39:19,380 --> 00:39:22,420
Drowning
508
00:39:22,420 --> 00:39:24,620
In the sea of love
509
00:39:25,940 --> 00:39:28,980
Where everyone
510
00:39:28,980 --> 00:39:31,180
Would love to drown
511
00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:36,460
But now it's gone
512
00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:40,220
It doesn't matter any more
513
00:39:40,220 --> 00:39:44,260
When you build your house
514
00:39:44,260 --> 00:39:46,020
Call me
515
00:40:01,220 --> 00:40:04,260
And he was just like
516
00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:07,940
A great dark wing
517
00:40:07,940 --> 00:40:11,860
Within the wings of a storm
518
00:40:14,860 --> 00:40:19,220
Well, I think I had met my match
519
00:40:22,580 --> 00:40:25,820
He was singing
520
00:40:29,740 --> 00:40:33,860
And undoing
521
00:40:33,860 --> 00:40:36,740
Ooh
522
00:40:36,740 --> 00:40:39,860
Undoing
523
00:40:41,060 --> 00:40:44,420
Aa-aa-aa-ah
524
00:40:44,420 --> 00:40:49,540
Laces
525
00:40:50,180 --> 00:40:55,220
Undoing the laces
526
00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:05,420
In the sea of love
527
00:41:05,420 --> 00:41:07,780
Every one of us
528
00:41:07,780 --> 00:41:12,420
Would just love to drown
529
00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:15,580
But now it's gone
530
00:41:15,580 --> 00:41:19,060
It doesn't matter what for
531
00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:22,700
But if you build your house
532
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:24,860
Then call me.
533
00:41:26,580 --> 00:41:31,620
It's another really good example
of Stevie's writing credentials.
534
00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:35,660
She's just a style, you know,
she's Stevie Nicks,
535
00:41:35,660 --> 00:41:38,580
she's this image icon, beautiful.
536
00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:41,180
But she evolved,
she took on different looks,
537
00:41:41,180 --> 00:41:44,900
she took on different personas.
538
00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:49,900
And I think, for me, you got a sense
of how she was feeling personally,
539
00:41:50,780 --> 00:41:53,780
through what she wore
and how she held herself on stage.
540
00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:58,660
And it all comes down to you
541
00:41:58,660 --> 00:42:01,540
Well, you know that it does, well
542
00:42:01,540 --> 00:42:03,660
Lightning strikes
543
00:42:03,660 --> 00:42:08,500
Maybe once, maybe twice
544
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:13,620
Oh, and it lights up the night
545
00:42:14,020 --> 00:42:17,660
And you see your gypsy.
546
00:42:17,660 --> 00:42:19,460
Oh, her voice, man.
547
00:42:19,460 --> 00:42:21,580
It's such an '80s video.
548
00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:25,060
You see your gypsy.
549
00:42:25,060 --> 00:42:27,340
Look how cool they look.
550
00:42:27,340 --> 00:42:32,180
It was in the era of
big music videos, MTV.
551
00:42:33,580 --> 00:42:36,740
To the gypsy
552
00:42:36,740 --> 00:42:40,260
That remains
553
00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:44,060
Her face says freedom
554
00:42:44,060 --> 00:42:47,020
With a little fear
555
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:51,060
I have no fear
556
00:42:51,060 --> 00:42:54,660
I have only love
557
00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:58,460
And if I was a child
558
00:42:58,460 --> 00:43:01,900
And the child was enough
559
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:05,540
Enough for me to love
560
00:43:05,540 --> 00:43:10,380
Enough to love.
561
00:43:10,380 --> 00:43:12,780
This is the Fleetwood Mac
of my childhood.
562
00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:19,220
And one of the things that's
so phenomenal and so interesting
563
00:43:19,220 --> 00:43:24,220
about Fleetwood Mac is, if you look
at their kind of biggest hits,
564
00:43:24,620 --> 00:43:27,540
most of them have been written
by the two women in the band.
565
00:43:27,540 --> 00:43:30,660
So to have these two really strong
female songwriters
566
00:43:30,660 --> 00:43:33,980
is really unusual. We have so many
great female vocalists,
567
00:43:33,980 --> 00:43:38,260
but it's not so typical that
they're also writing the material.
568
00:43:38,260 --> 00:43:41,700
You see your gypsy
569
00:43:43,460 --> 00:43:45,900
Ooh
570
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:49,660
Ohhh
571
00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:56,900
Lightning strikes
572
00:43:56,900 --> 00:44:00,060
Maybe once, maybe twice
573
00:44:00,060 --> 00:44:02,340
And all it comes down to you
574
00:44:02,340 --> 00:44:03,900
Ooh
575
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:06,700
Ohhh
576
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:09,260
And it all comes down to you
577
00:44:09,260 --> 00:44:11,300
Lightning strikes.
578
00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:13,900
The thing I love about Landslide,
that I love about all of
579
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:16,620
Stevie's songs,
is that they're so personal.
580
00:44:16,620 --> 00:44:20,020
She wrote this before
she'd signed to Fleetwood Mac.
581
00:44:20,020 --> 00:44:24,540
She was 27 years old, she'd spent
a lot of time working as
582
00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:27,380
a waitress and a cleaner,
desperate for the break,
583
00:44:27,380 --> 00:44:30,340
and it just wasn't coming. I
think her dad even said to her,
584
00:44:30,340 --> 00:44:34,500
"Give it another six months and
then, you know, get a proper job,"
585
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:36,460
type thing, or we'll put you
through college.
586
00:44:36,460 --> 00:44:40,420
And three months into that
six months, Fleetwood Mac happens
587
00:44:40,420 --> 00:44:43,700
and this is one of the songs
that she then takes to them.
588
00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:47,580
I took my love and I took it down
589
00:44:50,900 --> 00:44:54,300
I climbed a mountain
and I turned around
590
00:44:55,860 --> 00:45:00,860
And I saw my reflection
in the snow-covered hills
591
00:45:02,780 --> 00:45:07,340
Till the landslide brought me down
592
00:45:08,620 --> 00:45:13,620
Oh, mirror in the sky
What is love?
593
00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:20,340
Can the child within my heart
rise above?
594
00:45:22,060 --> 00:45:27,100
Can I sail through
the changing ocean tides?
595
00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:33,380
Can I handle the seasons
of my life?
596
00:45:37,060 --> 00:45:38,620
Mm-mm
597
00:45:38,620 --> 00:45:41,460
I don't know
598
00:45:41,460 --> 00:45:45,260
Mm-mm
599
00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:53,620
Well, I've been 'fraid of changing
600
00:45:53,780 --> 00:45:58,860
Cos I built my life around you
601
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:05,300
But time makes you bolder
602
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:08,500
Children get older
603
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:13,580
And I'm getting older, too
604
00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:16,220
So...
605
00:46:17,460 --> 00:46:19,820
I've had the great pleasure
of meeting Stevie Nicks
606
00:46:19,820 --> 00:46:21,940
and she's an extraordinary person.
607
00:46:21,940 --> 00:46:24,980
Extremely down-to-earth.
608
00:46:24,980 --> 00:46:28,540
And I said to her, "How do you
manage being Stevie Nicks?"
609
00:46:28,540 --> 00:46:32,060
And she says... GRUFFLY: "Well,
I decide if I'm Stevie Nicks or not.
610
00:46:32,060 --> 00:46:34,100
"If I walk down a corridor,
611
00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:37,820
"I'm looking at the floor,
no-one even sees me.
612
00:46:37,820 --> 00:46:41,700
"If I walk down the corridor as
Stevie Nicks, everybody sees me!"
613
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:46,180
..I've been afraid of changing
614
00:46:46,180 --> 00:46:48,500
Cos I
615
00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:53,180
I built my life around you
616
00:46:54,940 --> 00:46:58,180
But time makes you bolder
617
00:46:58,180 --> 00:47:01,780
Children get older
618
00:47:01,780 --> 00:47:06,620
And I'm getting older too
619
00:47:08,420 --> 00:47:13,540
I'm getting older too
620
00:47:14,140 --> 00:47:17,740
So take this love
621
00:47:17,740 --> 00:47:20,140
Take it down
622
00:47:21,460 --> 00:47:26,460
Oh, if you climb a mountain
and you turn around
623
00:47:28,020 --> 00:47:33,060
If you see my reflection
in the snow-covered hills
624
00:47:35,220 --> 00:47:40,260
Well, the landslide
will bring it down, down
625
00:47:41,060 --> 00:47:45,180
And if you see my reflection
626
00:47:45,180 --> 00:47:50,260
In the snow-covered
627
00:47:54,660 --> 00:47:57,580
Hills
628
00:47:59,820 --> 00:48:01,780
Well, maybe
629
00:48:03,540 --> 00:48:08,180
The landslide will bring it down
630
00:48:08,180 --> 00:48:13,180
Well, well, the landslide
will bring it down.
632
00:48:25,220 --> 00:48:27,500
Tango In The Night
is one of those ones
633
00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:30,100
where it's an extremely
commercial album.
634
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:33,060
There's so many hits, hits, hits
on that record.
635
00:48:33,060 --> 00:48:36,260
Apparently it was Lindsey
Buckingham, it was his demos first
636
00:48:36,260 --> 00:48:39,780
and then he took it to the band and
the band kind of reconvened again.
637
00:48:39,780 --> 00:48:41,700
But they can pull it out the bag.
638
00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:44,180
They know what a good record
sounds like.
639
00:48:44,180 --> 00:48:46,660
They're very happy to spend
a long time in the studio,
640
00:48:46,660 --> 00:48:48,020
getting it to that point.
641
00:48:48,020 --> 00:48:49,940
It still doesn't sound like
they've made up.
642
00:48:49,940 --> 00:48:52,660
They're still slightly at war.
Tango In The Night kind of
643
00:48:52,660 --> 00:48:55,340
came out again through
a real dark period for the band.
644
00:48:55,340 --> 00:48:58,100
You know, there was a lot of
dependency on drugs and things
645
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:00,700
within some of the band members,
646
00:49:00,700 --> 00:49:02,900
they were having a really
hard time with that.
647
00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:07,180
And there is a kind of darker feel
to this, I think.
648
00:49:07,180 --> 00:49:10,780
Even those kind of galloping drums
649
00:49:10,780 --> 00:49:13,060
that you get through
some of the songs.
650
00:49:13,060 --> 00:49:16,380
There's a real kind of urgency
to it, I think.
651
00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:19,100
If I could turn the page
652
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:22,220
In time then I'd rearrange
653
00:49:22,220 --> 00:49:24,100
Just a day or two
654
00:49:25,740 --> 00:49:30,740
Close my, close my, close my eyes
655
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:35,140
But I couldn't find a way
656
00:49:35,140 --> 00:49:37,740
So I'll settle for one day
657
00:49:37,740 --> 00:49:39,740
To believe in you
658
00:49:40,780 --> 00:49:45,140
Tell me, tell me, tell me lies
659
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:50,060
Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies
660
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:54,180
Tell me lies
Tell me, tell me lies
661
00:49:54,180 --> 00:49:57,220
Oh, no, no, you can't disguise
662
00:49:58,740 --> 00:50:02,060
No, you can't disguise
663
00:50:02,060 --> 00:50:05,060
Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies
664
00:50:09,580 --> 00:50:13,340
Although I'm not making plans
665
00:50:13,340 --> 00:50:17,940
I hope that you understand
There's a reason why
666
00:50:20,180 --> 00:50:23,860
Close your, close your,
close your eyes
667
00:50:25,740 --> 00:50:28,700
No more broken hearts
668
00:50:29,820 --> 00:50:33,660
We're better off apart
Let's give it a try
669
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,940
Tell me, tell me, tell me lies
670
00:50:40,660 --> 00:50:43,540
Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies
671
00:50:45,380 --> 00:50:47,900
Tell me lies
Tell me, tell me lies
672
00:50:47,900 --> 00:50:51,060
Oh, no, no, you can't disguise
673
00:50:52,940 --> 00:50:55,740
You can't disguise
No, you can't disguise.
674
00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:58,300
There's that big sound
and there's still the use of
675
00:50:58,300 --> 00:51:02,940
the West Coast-style harmonies,
you know, that musicality,
676
00:51:02,940 --> 00:51:05,940
and all sorts of elements
which make it more interesting
677
00:51:05,940 --> 00:51:09,500
than it first seems.
It's very well-crafted.
678
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:11,020
That's the Christine McVie thing,
679
00:51:11,020 --> 00:51:12,700
she's really good at
writing pop songs,
680
00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:15,300
so the stuff she writes has
that real pop element to it,
681
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:18,500
then you have Stevie Nicks
being a little gothy sort of
682
00:51:18,500 --> 00:51:21,260
Kate Bush-esque in the corner,
and you have Lindsey Buckingham
683
00:51:21,260 --> 00:51:23,620
doing his rock stuff,
and somehow it all works.
684
00:51:23,620 --> 00:51:26,220
So they can each take a credit
for a song and yet the songs can
685
00:51:26,220 --> 00:51:29,420
sit together on an album really well
and it doesn't seem, you know, like
686
00:51:29,420 --> 00:51:32,900
they're from completely different
places, and that's quite a talent.
687
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:38,260
But I couldn't find a way
688
00:51:38,260 --> 00:51:41,420
So I'll settle for one day
689
00:51:41,420 --> 00:51:43,260
To believe in you
690
00:51:44,620 --> 00:51:48,740
Tell me, tell me, tell me lies
691
00:51:49,780 --> 00:51:52,300
Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies
692
00:51:54,260 --> 00:51:57,420
Tell me lies
Tell me, tell me lies
693
00:51:57,420 --> 00:51:59,020
Oh, no, no, you can't disguise
694
00:52:01,940 --> 00:52:05,060
You can't disguise
No, you can't disguise
695
00:52:05,060 --> 00:52:08,140
Tell me lies
Tell me sweet little lies
696
00:52:09,220 --> 00:52:12,820
Tell me lies
Tell me, tell me lies
697
00:52:12,820 --> 00:52:16,180
Oh, no, no, you can't disguise
698
00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:20,380
You can't disguise
No, you can't disguise...
699
00:52:20,380 --> 00:52:23,380
The first time I remember hearing
Fleetwood Mac was Big Love.
700
00:52:23,380 --> 00:52:27,300
I think it could have been on...
701
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:29,660
And it wasn't hearing it,
it was the video.
702
00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:34,340
I remember seeing the video
somewhere and the sound of it
703
00:52:34,340 --> 00:52:37,260
was very distinct.
704
00:52:37,260 --> 00:52:41,180
I had no idea who they were,
this was like a new band to me,
705
00:52:41,180 --> 00:52:44,900
but they looked older,
so that was interesting.
706
00:52:46,420 --> 00:52:49,860
Looking out for love
707
00:52:49,860 --> 00:52:52,300
In the night so still
708
00:52:53,980 --> 00:52:58,820
Oh, I'll build you a kingdom
709
00:52:58,820 --> 00:53:01,820
In that house on the hill
710
00:53:01,820 --> 00:53:05,300
Lookin' out for love
711
00:53:09,380 --> 00:53:13,020
Big, big love
712
00:53:13,020 --> 00:53:16,980
Oh, oh, oh, oh
713
00:53:16,980 --> 00:53:20,420
You said that you love me
714
00:53:20,420 --> 00:53:23,980
And that you always will
715
00:53:25,220 --> 00:53:28,900
Oh, you begged me to keep you
716
00:53:28,900 --> 00:53:32,180
In that house on the hill
717
00:53:32,180 --> 00:53:36,180
Lookin' out for love
718
00:53:40,460 --> 00:53:44,740
Big, big love
719
00:53:44,740 --> 00:53:47,380
Oh, oh, oh, oh...
720
00:53:47,380 --> 00:53:51,060
The sonics. It was all about
the sonics of it, the sound of it,
721
00:53:51,060 --> 00:53:53,260
and the vocals were
really, really great.
722
00:53:53,260 --> 00:53:55,940
The voices. His voice especially.
723
00:53:55,940 --> 00:53:58,860
I wake up
724
00:53:58,860 --> 00:54:02,300
Alone with it all
725
00:54:03,620 --> 00:54:06,060
I wake up
726
00:54:06,060 --> 00:54:09,900
But only to fall...
727
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:15,820
The interesting thing about
Big Love is you can hear echoes of
728
00:54:15,820 --> 00:54:20,900
all the little bits of their past
in that one song.
729
00:54:21,020 --> 00:54:23,220
There's this little trail-off,
730
00:54:23,220 --> 00:54:28,220
this little bluesy trail-off
that echoes Oh Well.
731
00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:31,100
This bit.
732
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:34,060
Da-dah, da-dah
Biddle-diddle-diddle-diddle.
733
00:54:34,060 --> 00:54:37,340
That biddle-diddle-diddle-durh
at the end is the echo,
734
00:54:37,340 --> 00:54:39,860
and it's like a book-end.
735
00:54:44,180 --> 00:54:46,900
Oh, oh, oh
736
00:54:46,900 --> 00:54:50,620
Oh, ah
Ah, ah...
737
00:54:51,780 --> 00:54:56,820
I always assumed that the grunts
was Stevie or Christine,
738
00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:02,260
but it wasn't, it was Lindsey
pitching his voice up.
739
00:55:02,260 --> 00:55:06,300
Huh, ah
Huh, ah...
740
00:55:06,300 --> 00:55:10,300
Which is just slightly bonkers.
741
00:55:10,300 --> 00:55:13,980
Uh, ah
Uh, ah
742
00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:16,980
Uh, ah
Uh, ah.
743
00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:19,900
They've left, they've broken up,
they've got back together.
744
00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:21,660
Whether it's for Bill Clinton
745
00:55:21,660 --> 00:55:24,260
or, you know, an anniversary tour
or whatever.
746
00:55:24,260 --> 00:55:27,900
In my world, everybody stays
747
00:55:27,900 --> 00:55:32,060
Nobody wishes for
words they couldn't say
748
00:55:32,060 --> 00:55:35,740
Bless my soul
Let the night unfurl
749
00:55:35,740 --> 00:55:40,260
Dancing, spinning, dreaming
Singing in my world...
750
00:55:40,260 --> 00:55:42,580
And now Lindsey Buckingham's left,
751
00:55:42,580 --> 00:55:46,620
I'd really like to believe that
Mick Fleetwood is in LA just now
752
00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:49,340
just kind of like going to gigs
and checking to see
753
00:55:49,340 --> 00:55:51,820
if there's any new players
that he thinks,
754
00:55:51,820 --> 00:55:54,220
"Here's a good songwriter
I could use."
755
00:55:54,220 --> 00:55:56,180
The door's not closed,
I don't think.
756
00:55:56,180 --> 00:55:58,580
There's not really been much said
about it
757
00:55:58,580 --> 00:56:01,580
but, you know, they've got
some new members in, but...
758
00:56:01,580 --> 00:56:03,700
I don't really care.
I'm watching Stevie.
759
00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:08,340
But you need some rest
My darling, it's best
760
00:56:08,340 --> 00:56:12,540
But we've already passed it
I cried
761
00:56:13,940 --> 00:56:17,740
Ooh-eeh
Listen to me
762
00:56:17,740 --> 00:56:21,300
My secret love secretly
763
00:56:23,340 --> 00:56:25,780
Died...
764
00:56:25,780 --> 00:56:29,380
This band, Fleetwood Mac,
they've survived so much.
765
00:56:29,380 --> 00:56:32,500
50 years, that's unbelievable.
766
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:36,180
And I think it's nearly over
100 million records they've sold.
767
00:56:36,180 --> 00:56:39,340
Half of that, nearly,
through one record.
768
00:56:39,340 --> 00:56:42,460
That's amazing.
That's a great achievement
769
00:56:42,460 --> 00:56:46,180
for a band who are still out there
touring, and their music,
770
00:56:46,180 --> 00:56:49,780
more importantly, over everything,
still resonates.
771
00:56:49,780 --> 00:56:54,780
They spawn a million bands,
trying to be as good as that.
772
00:56:55,100 --> 00:57:00,100
Trying to... Trying to achieve
that foothold that's their own,
773
00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:06,460
and that's an amazing gift
to give the human race.
774
00:57:06,460 --> 00:57:10,540
Can you hear me calling
Out your name
775
00:57:10,540 --> 00:57:14,180
You know that I'm falling
and I don't know what to say
776
00:57:14,180 --> 00:57:18,220
I'll speak a little louder
I'll even shout
777
00:57:18,220 --> 00:57:21,940
You know that I'm proud
and I can't get the words out
778
00:57:21,940 --> 00:57:26,620
Oh, I
779
00:57:26,620 --> 00:57:30,820
I want to be with you everywhere
780
00:57:30,820 --> 00:57:34,940
Oh, I
781
00:57:34,940 --> 00:57:38,180
I want to be with you everywhere
782
00:57:38,180 --> 00:57:41,540
Be with you everywhere
783
00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:50,140
Something's happening
Happening to me
784
00:57:50,140 --> 00:57:53,700
My friends say
I'm acting peculiarly
785
00:57:55,100 --> 00:57:58,140
Come along, baby
We better make a start
786
00:57:58,140 --> 00:58:02,700
You better make it soon
before you break my heart
787
00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:07,380
Oh, I
788
00:58:07,380 --> 00:58:10,460
I want to be with you everywhere
789
00:58:10,460 --> 00:58:15,020
Oh, I
790
00:58:15,020 --> 00:58:17,620
I want to be with you everywhere
791
00:58:17,620 --> 00:58:21,540
Be with you everywhere
792
00:58:21,540 --> 00:58:33,540
Oh, oh, oh, ah
793
00:58:33,540 --> 00:58:36,580
Oh, oh, ah...
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