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Previously on "The Rookie"...
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That's Aaron Thorsen.
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Rich kid.
TikTok famous
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before he got arrested for
murdering his roommate in Paris.
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I was locked in a cell for 541 days.
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The person who murdered Patrick,
he's still out there,
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and no one is looking for him
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because they still think that I did it.
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I don't want to be a part of
this reality TV show.
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Sweetie, it's only gonna help you.
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I'm Morris Mackey. I'm
the reality TV producer here.
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I just want to say,
this has been so fascinating.
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I love true crime,
and to be in a documentary,
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it's just...
it's a dream come true.
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Thank you.
Thank you.
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Do I just...?
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You're back.
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Another crazy story,
how could I stay away?
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Thank you.
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- You good to go?
- Um, yeah.
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Where should I, uh...
Where should I start?
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Why don't you, uh, tell me
about Aaron Thorsen?
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Well, Aaron came to the F.T.O. program
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with the deck stacked against him.
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He had to sue the LAPD
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even to get into the Academy.
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I mean, you have to respect
just how hard he fought
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just to be here.
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Uh...
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But what happened in Paris,
never left him,
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no matter how hard he tried to move on.
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People would argue that doing
a reality show
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is the opposite of moving on.
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Well, those people haven't experienced
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what it's like to be infamous.
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I mean, Aaron was,
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desperate to reset the
way the world saw him.
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And it all blew up in his face.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it really did.
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I can't believe this
is happening to me again.
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It's nice to see you again.
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Mm-hmm.
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And congratulations, on the baby.
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Thank you.
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Did being pregnant make
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what you went through
with Aaron more stressful?
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Not here to talk about me.
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Fair enough.
Uh, let's talk about
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the reality show.
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Okay.
It was his mom's idea.
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It was a way to rebrand his image.
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And what did you think of the title?
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No comment.
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Seriously, though.
You have to have had an opinion...
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Listen, you're not gonna get me
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to say that dumbass title,
so let's just move on.
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Yeah, so back there is my parents' room
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and the family room.
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Um... Oh,
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right here, this is my favorite photo.
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I was 6.
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And you might recognize my dad.
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He was part of a '90s rap duo,
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Flex n' Flow.
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That's them right here.
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♪ Party's never stoppin' ♪
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♪ Who the boys that make the noise? ♪
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- ♪ Flex n' Flow, yo, Flex n' Flow ♪
- Yeah, man,
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when I was a kid, I used to love
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riding my tricycle up and down
this hallway.
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Until he knocked over my Music
Industry Achievement Award
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and broke it.
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Aaron tried to put it back
together with Play-Doh,
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thinking we wouldn't notice.
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But that's my son,
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always trying to get
away with something.
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Not anymore.
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I mean, now he's...
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Very responsible.
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Over here, we got my childhood bedroom.
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What the hell?
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Hey, I never had
this picture of Patrick.
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Did you put this here?
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We just thought it'd be
a nice surprise.
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Man, Morris, what the hell
did I tell you, man,
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about faking stuff like this?
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Relax.
Uh, not a big deal.
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We just wanted to do it for a take.
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- Yeah, man, that's not cool.
- You know what? You're right.
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My bad.
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We'll, we'll do it again,
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but without the photo.
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Okay.
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Yeah, okay.
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Got that?
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Morris was white-hot from doing
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several award-winning
documentaries in a row.
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The king of those "30 Under 30" lists.
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He had a real gift
for earning people's trust,
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convincing them,
that he was on their side,
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that, they have a say on the final cut.
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Then, surprise!
They didn't.
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Hey.
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Sorry, I, uh, totally forgot
this was happening today.
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We just started.
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Uh, don't forget to tell him
about the, uh,
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- forensics expert.
- I know.
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And the, uh, the French prosecutor.
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I sent you that interview, right?
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He was biased against Aaron
from the jump.
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I'm a decade older,
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but Aaron and I
had similar upbringings...
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rich parents, private schools.
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I'm just lucky social media
didn't exist.
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Look, if I was in Aaron's generation,
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I would have just as much
embarrassing footage as he did.
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Of what?
You studying tort reform at 15?
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I got into trouble.
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- Uh-huh.
- Okay.
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The point is,
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when you grow up in this world,
you don't hear "no" a lot,
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which can make you a real ass...
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Can make you a very selfish person.
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♪ Another day ♪
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Ooh-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo!
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Yo, they only got, like, five pairs
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of these in the whole world,
and I got a pair.
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You don't have a pair, but I do.
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What's up, what's up?!
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Hey, yo, what up,
everybody? It's your boy, AT!
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My guy Patty P right here.
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We got a pool party tonight.
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Everybody come through.
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Got the matching, you know?
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- Got the matching.
- And the shoes.
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Hey.
Have fun.
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- You know what it is.
- Hey! Whoa!
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You know the vibes.
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You know the vibes!
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$30,000 a bottle,
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and he didn't drink a sip.
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That boy lost his mind.
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I had to get him out
of his comfort zone.
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I mean, I-I thought, you know,
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a semester abroad,
would've helped him mature,
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so, I sent him to Paris.
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I was on scholarship.
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University of Michigan.
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Go Wolverines.
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I don't know why I said that.
Can I please start over?
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You're doing fine.
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Uh, when did you first meet
Aaron and Patrick?
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The program held a mixer,
when we first arrived.
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It was mostly just a bunch of
awkward college students,
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butchering French, but,
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Aaron and Patrick were from
this whole other world.
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First impressions?
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I mean, honestly, they seemed
like entitled douchebags.
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But then I got to know them.
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You know, it was like another planet...
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Planet Rich.
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Patrick was the funniest.
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All that stuff you saw on Instagram,
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no, that's not who they were.
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Yeah, I mean, we went from the
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Two Musketeers to Four, you know,
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just like that.
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Me, Patrick, Rowan, and Everest,
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we were, uh...
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Inseparable.
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And uh...
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Man, that feels like so long ago.
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Are you nervous about the reunion?
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A little.
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Or, a lot.
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Yeah, I mean, um,
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I haven't seen them since the trial.
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And they all went home,
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graduated from college,
got jobs, and...
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I went to prison.
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Do they believe in your innocence?
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Yeah, 100%.
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They've both said that.
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You know,
there can be a big difference,
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between what people say,
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and what they believe.
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Sorry. Let's...
Hold on.
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Let me reset that.
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Sorry.
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Ro, Ro,
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- good to see you, man!
- Yeah, you too, man.
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Yeah.
You look so different.
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Yeah, I'm a little older.
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No, it's not that.
I don't know.
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You're like a different guy.
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Something like that.
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- I think I'm gonna cry.
- Hey.
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No, no, no crying.
You're gonna mess up my makeup.
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Oh!
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Oh, I'm sorry I didn't come sooner.
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No, d... don't worry about it, really.
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I'm just, glad to see you guys.
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Alright, so let's, uh, get inside.
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I got food, drinks...
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cameras, and, uh...
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I'm sorry.
This is...
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- So weird.
- Hey, it's fine.
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We're just happy to see you, bro.
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- Yeah, me too.
- Yeah.
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Yeah. Alright.
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Guys, I got to swap out
my battery.
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Give me a second?
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Okay.
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What the hell?
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Holy...
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Morris Mackey's throat had been cut.
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By the time his body was found,
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he'd been dead approximately
four hours.
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And who were
your initial suspects?
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Everyone who stepped foot
in the house that day.
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- Including Aaron.
- Everyone.
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- Good morning.
- Good morning.
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It's nice to see you again.
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Nice to see you!
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I heard you were
happy with how the last
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- documentary came out.
- Oh, my God.
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It was so good, and, and...
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And I got so many compliments.
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Oh, that's great.
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How about you?
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Didn't see it.
Can we get started?
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Uh, yeah.
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So, tell me what happened when
you arrived at the scene.
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We were the first responders.
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Whoa.
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Okay.
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It was a, frenetic day.
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So many people, so...
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So many personalities.
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But, when you're talking
a star-studded crime scene
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with a witness list comprised
mostly of influencers,
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I guess that's no surprise.
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Alright, look,
even with all those cameras
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and phones rolling in the house,
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none of them caught anything
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even remotely helpful
to our investigation.
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Yeah. Luck?
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It just wasn't in our cards that day.
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- What?
- Why are you so happy?
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I am being colorful.
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They will use more of our coverage
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if we give them evocative sound bites.
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I'm right, right?
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Can we get back to the murder?
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I followed protocols.
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You know, I-I called it in,
cleared the house,
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- did everything right.
- Mm-hmm.
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- You believe me, right?
- O-Of course.
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I mean, but we have to
follow protocol, too.
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It's gonna be okay.
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I can't believe this
is happening to me again.
263
00:09:35,927 --> 00:09:37,054
I know.
264
00:09:38,512 --> 00:09:39,932
A-Are you okay?
265
00:09:41,008 --> 00:09:42,744
I think I'm having, like,
a panic attack.
266
00:09:42,792 --> 00:09:44,398
Oh, okay.
Uh, just sit down,
267
00:09:44,446 --> 00:09:45,766
and I'm gonna grab you
some water, okay?
268
00:09:45,814 --> 00:09:46,960
I'll be right back.
269
00:09:47,009 --> 00:09:48,489
Show's over.
Time to go.
270
00:09:48,537 --> 00:09:51,231
What? Uh, no, no, no.
No, it's not.
271
00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:53,276
This is my house, my production.
272
00:09:53,324 --> 00:09:54,353
The show goes on.
273
00:09:54,402 --> 00:09:55,530
Connor, keep filming.
274
00:09:55,579 --> 00:09:56,659
Yeah, that's not how this works.
275
00:09:56,707 --> 00:09:57,773
This is my crime scene.
276
00:09:57,822 --> 00:09:59,538
Shut it off now.
277
00:10:00,350 --> 00:10:01,650
Shut it off!
278
00:10:03,683 --> 00:10:05,001
There was nothing we could do.
279
00:10:05,083 --> 00:10:06,210
Well, thanks for coming out.
280
00:10:06,259 --> 00:10:07,334
Yeah.
281
00:10:07,382 --> 00:10:09,684
Our paramedic crew was short-staffed,
282
00:10:09,732 --> 00:10:11,894
and since we're all EMT-trained,
283
00:10:11,942 --> 00:10:13,079
I was subbing in.
284
00:10:13,127 --> 00:10:14,407
Oh, I don't understand.
285
00:10:14,455 --> 00:10:15,476
Why were you called in at all?
286
00:10:15,525 --> 00:10:16,996
He was clearly dead, right?
287
00:10:17,044 --> 00:10:19,390
You have no idea how many people
I see look that way
288
00:10:19,438 --> 00:10:21,000
and then spring back to life.
289
00:10:21,048 --> 00:10:22,610
Oh.
Interesting.
290
00:10:22,658 --> 00:10:23,916
And what did you think at the time?
291
00:10:23,964 --> 00:10:25,580
Did it seem to you like Aaron did it?
292
00:10:25,629 --> 00:10:26,681
Of course not.
293
00:10:26,729 --> 00:10:28,224
He would never do anything like that.
294
00:10:28,338 --> 00:10:30,521
Really? And you're confident
saying that...
295
00:10:30,570 --> 00:10:32,678
considering your ex-husband?
296
00:10:33,549 --> 00:10:34,776
Wow.
297
00:10:35,044 --> 00:10:36,372
Okay.
298
00:10:36,542 --> 00:10:38,104
Ah, clearly, you come prepared.
299
00:10:38,152 --> 00:10:40,207
Yeah, um, I...
300
00:10:40,255 --> 00:10:42,915
I married a sociopath, once.
301
00:10:43,070 --> 00:10:46,212
So, maybe I'm not
the best judge of character.
302
00:10:46,261 --> 00:10:47,821
It's not about being
a good judge of character.
303
00:10:47,869 --> 00:10:49,196
We judge by the facts.
304
00:10:49,245 --> 00:10:50,670
And what did the facts say?
305
00:10:50,764 --> 00:10:52,282
At first?
306
00:10:52,772 --> 00:10:54,186
Not much.
307
00:10:55,952 --> 00:10:57,558
How long you been here filming today?
308
00:10:57,606 --> 00:10:59,255
About three or four hours.
309
00:10:59,303 --> 00:11:00,431
After rehearsal this morning,
310
00:11:00,479 --> 00:11:01,823
they had Everest and me in the kitchen,
311
00:11:01,871 --> 00:11:03,346
getting our hair and makeup done
312
00:11:03,394 --> 00:11:04,826
while they filmed other stuff.
313
00:11:04,874 --> 00:11:06,434
So you were in the kitchen
the whole time?
314
00:11:06,482 --> 00:11:09,942
Uh, well, I did sneak off
to crafty once or...
315
00:11:10,097 --> 00:11:11,529
four times.
I heard they had ice cream,
316
00:11:11,577 --> 00:11:12,791
and I've been dieting like crazy
317
00:11:12,839 --> 00:11:14,039
'cause I was gonna be on television,
318
00:11:14,088 --> 00:11:15,169
and I heard the camera adds like,
319
00:11:15,217 --> 00:11:16,681
10 pounds.
Is that true?
320
00:11:16,730 --> 00:11:18,336
So when was the last time
you saw Morris?
321
00:11:18,782 --> 00:11:20,562
Honestly, I ain't seen him all day.
322
00:11:20,665 --> 00:11:22,004
I was dealing with work stuff
323
00:11:22,061 --> 00:11:23,715
right up until we started filming.
324
00:11:23,763 --> 00:11:25,760
And where were you
when Morris's body was found?
325
00:11:25,808 --> 00:11:27,475
In my office.
326
00:11:27,694 --> 00:11:28,894
And how would you characterize
327
00:11:28,942 --> 00:11:31,007
Aaron's relationship with Morris?
328
00:11:34,164 --> 00:11:36,221
It's important you tell the truth.
329
00:11:37,819 --> 00:11:40,340
They didn't always agree about
the direction of the show.
330
00:11:40,388 --> 00:11:42,621
But my son, he would never hurt anyone.
331
00:11:49,484 --> 00:11:51,414
Hey, do we really have
to do this in here?
332
00:11:52,313 --> 00:11:53,995
Yes, we do, son.
333
00:11:55,558 --> 00:11:58,469
Per government code 3300
and per Lybarger,
334
00:11:58,518 --> 00:12:00,407
I am required to advise,
335
00:12:00,455 --> 00:12:02,667
that you do not have
the right to remain silent.
336
00:12:02,715 --> 00:12:05,365
Anything you say can
and will be used against you.
337
00:12:05,413 --> 00:12:08,334
Refusal to fully,
and completely, answer
338
00:12:08,382 --> 00:12:10,799
all of Detective Lopez's questions,
339
00:12:10,848 --> 00:12:13,805
will result in immediate termination.
340
00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:16,197
Do you understand?
341
00:12:17,374 --> 00:12:18,424
Yes, sir.
342
00:12:18,472 --> 00:12:19,901
And I'm here to protect you,
343
00:12:19,949 --> 00:12:21,642
as your union representative.
344
00:12:21,858 --> 00:12:23,426
This is your choice.
345
00:12:23,474 --> 00:12:25,182
But like Sergeant Grey said,
346
00:12:25,324 --> 00:12:26,561
if you choose not to cooperate,
347
00:12:26,609 --> 00:12:27,682
you will lose your job.
348
00:12:27,731 --> 00:12:29,344
Of course I'll cooperate.
349
00:12:31,231 --> 00:12:32,412
Good man.
350
00:12:34,311 --> 00:12:35,526
Alright.
351
00:12:35,574 --> 00:12:36,954
I'll leave you to it.
352
00:12:40,636 --> 00:12:41,999
I didn't kill Morris.
353
00:12:45,791 --> 00:12:47,543
When I saw him,
354
00:12:47,856 --> 00:12:49,925
lying there, like Patrick...
355
00:12:49,974 --> 00:12:51,193
I understand.
356
00:12:51,241 --> 00:12:52,934
But it was common knowledge
that you and Morris
357
00:12:52,982 --> 00:12:54,841
weren't on the best of terms.
358
00:12:54,946 --> 00:12:56,325
Who are you with?
359
00:12:56,373 --> 00:12:57,423
TMZ?
360
00:12:57,554 --> 00:12:58,604
You still feeding off my grief,
361
00:12:58,652 --> 00:12:59,732
- you vultures?!
- Come on, guys.
362
00:12:59,781 --> 00:13:01,116
- Morris, what are you doing, man?
- Get 'em out of here, man!
363
00:13:01,164 --> 00:13:02,553
- Go!
- Get out of here now!
364
00:13:02,601 --> 00:13:05,837
Yeah, what he did to Patrick's dad was,
365
00:13:06,035 --> 00:13:08,967
callous, and exploitative, but,
366
00:13:09,015 --> 00:13:10,212
I wouldn't kill him for it.
367
00:13:10,260 --> 00:13:11,512
Yeah, that was bad.
368
00:13:11,561 --> 00:13:13,793
Aaron pulled over Patrick's dad
369
00:13:13,841 --> 00:13:15,291
in a routine car stop.
370
00:13:15,340 --> 00:13:18,401
It was a total random reunion, but...
371
00:13:18,628 --> 00:13:20,434
Morris and his cameraman,
372
00:13:20,482 --> 00:13:21,964
were there filming, and that just,
373
00:13:22,012 --> 00:13:23,486
made everything worse.
374
00:13:23,534 --> 00:13:26,504
Dexter Hayes,
he was a-a grieving, father.
375
00:13:26,552 --> 00:13:27,932
You know?
And he...
376
00:13:28,293 --> 00:13:31,096
He took a swing at Officer Thorsen,
377
00:13:31,145 --> 00:13:33,266
so we had to book him,
but we let him go,
378
00:13:33,314 --> 00:13:34,909
as soon as we could.
379
00:13:35,124 --> 00:13:37,413
And, you know, I thought
that would be the end of it.
380
00:13:37,461 --> 00:13:39,181
But you suspected that
Patrick's dad
381
00:13:39,229 --> 00:13:40,695
- could have killed Morris?
- We did.
382
00:13:40,763 --> 00:13:42,967
He was furious
about "Every Rose Has A..."
383
00:13:44,054 --> 00:13:45,738
About the reality show.
384
00:13:46,209 --> 00:13:49,480
And after years of the press
feeding off of his grief,
385
00:13:49,715 --> 00:13:52,286
yeah, it was believable
that he could've snapped.
386
00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,685
This is absurd.
You do know that?
387
00:13:54,827 --> 00:13:56,467
Alright, sir, can you tell me
where you were,
388
00:13:56,515 --> 00:13:57,628
yesterday afternoon?
389
00:13:57,676 --> 00:13:59,697
I was in the office,
morning to midnight.
390
00:13:59,745 --> 00:14:01,699
Ask any one of my employees.
391
00:14:01,915 --> 00:14:03,439
I didn't do this.
392
00:14:03,487 --> 00:14:05,234
Any idea who did?
393
00:14:05,489 --> 00:14:08,232
I can tell you that,
whoever killed that man,
394
00:14:08,579 --> 00:14:10,736
his last name is Thorsen.
395
00:14:11,713 --> 00:14:14,494
I blame myself for ever letting
them into Patrick's life.
396
00:14:14,542 --> 00:14:15,843
They're a sick family.
397
00:14:15,891 --> 00:14:18,280
And Aaron is not
the only killer among them.
398
00:14:18,328 --> 00:14:19,608
What did he mean by that?
399
00:14:19,656 --> 00:14:20,745
You know what he meant by that.
400
00:14:20,794 --> 00:14:21,901
And we knew,
401
00:14:21,949 --> 00:14:23,198
from the reality show,
402
00:14:23,246 --> 00:14:25,723
that Morris gave Aaron's
father a clear motive.
403
00:14:25,771 --> 00:14:28,377
And that's what I was thinking
for the opening theme.
404
00:14:28,425 --> 00:14:29,693
- Yeah?
- Yeah.
405
00:14:29,742 --> 00:14:31,361
- I like it.
- You do?
406
00:14:31,814 --> 00:14:33,376
Almost as much as I like you.
407
00:14:33,505 --> 00:14:34,775
Mm.
408
00:14:34,823 --> 00:14:36,734
You're so sweet.
409
00:14:36,782 --> 00:14:38,111
Oh.
410
00:14:38,261 --> 00:14:39,345
Hey!
411
00:14:39,393 --> 00:14:41,106
You hooking up with my wife, man?!
412
00:14:41,525 --> 00:14:42,740
Linc, it's not what you think.
413
00:14:42,788 --> 00:14:45,037
Boy, you better get
the hell up out of here!
414
00:14:48,010 --> 00:14:49,660
What the hell was that?!
415
00:14:49,708 --> 00:14:51,937
Are you seriously
doing this to me again?!
416
00:14:51,986 --> 00:14:53,235
In my own house!
417
00:14:53,290 --> 00:14:54,651
There's footage of Lincoln,
418
00:14:54,699 --> 00:14:56,579
catching Morris and Yvonne,
in an intimate moment.
419
00:14:56,627 --> 00:14:58,756
That had to factor
into your investigation.
420
00:14:58,883 --> 00:15:01,062
Jealousy is a primal motive.
421
00:15:01,110 --> 00:15:02,470
And some believe
that Lincoln had killed
422
00:15:02,518 --> 00:15:03,978
for jealousy once before.
423
00:15:04,172 --> 00:15:06,285
He was a suspect in
a 20-year-old murder, wasn't he?
424
00:15:06,442 --> 00:15:07,585
Yes, he was.
425
00:15:12,602 --> 00:15:13,762
What can you tell me,
426
00:15:13,810 --> 00:15:15,858
about your father's hip-hop duo,
Flex n' Flow?
427
00:15:15,907 --> 00:15:17,483
I mean, I was, like, a baby, you know,
428
00:15:17,532 --> 00:15:18,618
when they were at their height.
429
00:15:18,667 --> 00:15:19,800
And, uh,
430
00:15:19,848 --> 00:15:22,213
that was the year
"Make Da Noise" went platinum.
431
00:15:22,262 --> 00:15:23,484
Flex n' Flow
had one of the most
432
00:15:23,532 --> 00:15:24,782
iconic singles of the late '90s.
433
00:15:24,830 --> 00:15:26,287
Oh, my God.
"Make Da Noise"?
434
00:15:26,336 --> 00:15:29,264
That's like one
of my go-to karaoke jams.
435
00:15:29,312 --> 00:15:30,831
♪ My crib, it's all a-poppin' ♪
436
00:15:30,879 --> 00:15:32,006
♪ The party's never stoppin' ♪
437
00:15:32,054 --> 00:15:33,181
♪ Who da boyz that make da noise? ♪
438
00:15:33,229 --> 00:15:34,922
♪ Flex 'n Flow, yo, Flex n' Flow ♪
439
00:15:35,405 --> 00:15:36,639
Can I be interviewed alone?
440
00:15:38,495 --> 00:15:39,797
♪ Yeah, we comin' for you. ♪
441
00:15:39,845 --> 00:15:40,841
♪ My crib, it's all a-poppin' ♪
442
00:15:40,889 --> 00:15:42,190
♪ This party's never stoppin' ♪
443
00:15:42,238 --> 00:15:43,365
♪ We're the boyz who make da noise ♪
444
00:15:43,413 --> 00:15:44,715
♪ Flex n' Flow, yo, Flex n' Flow ♪
445
00:15:44,763 --> 00:15:46,151
♪ My crib, it's all a-poppin' ♪
446
00:15:46,199 --> 00:15:47,587
♪ This party's never stoppin' ♪
447
00:15:47,635 --> 00:15:48,762
♪ We're the boyz who make da noise ♪
448
00:15:48,810 --> 00:15:49,937
♪ Flex n' Flow, yo, Flex n' Flow ♪
449
00:15:49,985 --> 00:15:51,069
♪ Flex n' Flow ♪
450
00:16:00,343 --> 00:16:02,571
Oh, yes, that's me.
451
00:16:02,698 --> 00:16:04,909
I was a Flow Girl.
452
00:16:04,957 --> 00:16:06,737
Wait. What?
453
00:16:06,785 --> 00:16:09,609
There was a scout who saw me
cheering in high school,
454
00:16:09,657 --> 00:16:11,306
and he asked me to audition.
455
00:16:11,354 --> 00:16:13,545
At first, I thought he was
just trying to get in my pants.
456
00:16:13,594 --> 00:16:16,249
But it turned out to be legit,
457
00:16:16,297 --> 00:16:19,046
and it was for Flex n' Flow.
458
00:16:19,095 --> 00:16:20,968
I was the biggest fan.
459
00:16:21,016 --> 00:16:22,577
What are you
wearing, by the way?
460
00:16:22,625 --> 00:16:24,191
Oh, I teach capoeira
461
00:16:24,239 --> 00:16:26,800
- on Thursdays and Sundays.
- Oh.
462
00:16:26,848 --> 00:16:28,541
Did you ever see Flex n' Flow argue,
463
00:16:28,589 --> 00:16:29,709
while you were working with them?
464
00:16:29,757 --> 00:16:32,153
Mm, I mean, well, sure,
465
00:16:32,201 --> 00:16:33,907
but nothing serious.
466
00:16:33,956 --> 00:16:36,090
They were like brothers,
and brothers fight.
467
00:16:36,139 --> 00:16:37,660
What do you say to the people
who are convinced
468
00:16:37,708 --> 00:16:39,335
that your husband
killed his late partner?
469
00:16:39,384 --> 00:16:42,207
Oh, honey, this alleged "feud"
between Linc and Calvin
470
00:16:42,255 --> 00:16:45,194
has gotten blown way out
of proportion over the years.
471
00:16:45,243 --> 00:16:46,907
But what about the night
of Calvin's murder?
472
00:16:46,956 --> 00:16:49,358
The infamous pre-release party
for "2 Hype Homies"?
473
00:16:49,407 --> 00:16:51,869
Did the party
get a little wild? Sure.
474
00:16:51,917 --> 00:16:54,088
Did the police come
and break it up? Mm-hmm.
475
00:16:54,136 --> 00:16:56,874
And did Linc and Calvin argue?
You bet.
476
00:16:56,922 --> 00:16:58,919
But they were just passionate people.
477
00:16:58,967 --> 00:17:02,053
And nobody ever threatened nobody.
478
00:17:02,230 --> 00:17:05,031
Yeah, they, uh,
they threatened each other.
479
00:17:05,381 --> 00:17:06,508
I was there.
480
00:17:06,588 --> 00:17:08,194
I was a rookie officer then.
481
00:17:08,281 --> 00:17:11,157
And my T.O. and I had got a 415 call,
482
00:17:11,206 --> 00:17:13,499
for an out-of-control party.
483
00:17:13,547 --> 00:17:17,372
It was a record release event,
for Flex n' Flow.
484
00:17:17,420 --> 00:17:19,694
But anyway,
as we were breaking things up,
485
00:17:19,743 --> 00:17:22,247
I saw Flex n' Flow
in each other's faces.
486
00:17:22,295 --> 00:17:24,295
Could you hear
what they were fighting about?
487
00:17:24,343 --> 00:17:27,261
No. Um, as I approached,
their limousine was pulling up.
488
00:17:27,363 --> 00:17:28,816
But Flex, um...
489
00:17:28,865 --> 00:17:30,083
Um, I'm sorry, Lincoln...
490
00:17:30,131 --> 00:17:31,542
was still very hot.
491
00:17:31,591 --> 00:17:34,761
He refused to get
into the limo with Flow,
492
00:17:34,809 --> 00:17:36,244
and, um...
493
00:17:36,396 --> 00:17:38,643
Yeah, he said that he'd rather walk
494
00:17:38,753 --> 00:17:41,092
than to deal with Flow's nonsense.
495
00:17:41,140 --> 00:17:42,354
Um...
496
00:17:42,590 --> 00:17:43,972
It was a good thing, too.
497
00:17:44,066 --> 00:17:46,619
A devastating loss
for the music industry today,
498
00:17:46,667 --> 00:17:47,890
as Calvin Yard,
499
00:17:47,938 --> 00:17:50,623
one half of the popular
duo Flex n' Flow,
500
00:17:50,671 --> 00:17:52,973
was gunned down in
Los Angeles last night
501
00:17:53,021 --> 00:17:55,497
after leaving his record launch party.
502
00:17:55,545 --> 00:17:57,641
It couldn't have been
more than five minutes later,
503
00:17:57,689 --> 00:17:59,793
that we got a, shots-fired call.
504
00:17:59,870 --> 00:18:04,376
As Flow's limo was making
the turn on La Cienega,
505
00:18:04,424 --> 00:18:07,676
a car pulled alongside it
and unloaded 20 rounds
506
00:18:07,725 --> 00:18:09,157
at the rear of the vehicle.
507
00:18:10,734 --> 00:18:13,761
Flow was shot, seven times.
508
00:18:14,738 --> 00:18:16,169
Yeah.
509
00:18:17,045 --> 00:18:18,980
That was my first homicide.
510
00:18:19,265 --> 00:18:20,740
I'll never forget it.
511
00:18:20,869 --> 00:18:22,486
It changes you.
512
00:18:22,593 --> 00:18:26,086
I did not have anything to do
with Calvin's death.
513
00:18:26,801 --> 00:18:28,241
But
at the time of his murder,
514
00:18:28,289 --> 00:18:29,837
- all the talk was...
- That was garbage, man.
515
00:18:29,886 --> 00:18:31,057
All garbage.
516
00:18:31,106 --> 00:18:32,430
I loved Calvin like a brother.
517
00:18:32,479 --> 00:18:33,851
You know, this...
518
00:18:34,068 --> 00:18:35,586
This is straight-up exploitive.
519
00:18:35,635 --> 00:18:36,918
Calvin's murder was solved,
520
00:18:36,966 --> 00:18:38,547
decades ago, and you know it.
521
00:18:38,633 --> 00:18:42,023
A man named Gary Brown
was convicted of Flow's murder.
522
00:18:42,157 --> 00:18:44,590
It turns out Flow
was sleeping with Gary's wife.
523
00:18:44,638 --> 00:18:46,990
So as far as the LAPD was concerned,
524
00:18:47,038 --> 00:18:48,223
case closed.
525
00:18:48,272 --> 00:18:49,688
Yeah, but the aura of guilt haunted
526
00:18:49,736 --> 00:18:51,871
Lincoln's reputation
like a dark shroud.
527
00:18:52,646 --> 00:18:53,832
I'm sorry.
528
00:18:53,881 --> 00:18:55,640
That was really good.
529
00:18:56,411 --> 00:18:57,830
Thanks.
530
00:18:58,043 --> 00:19:00,002
And with Lincoln alibi'd out, you know,
531
00:19:00,051 --> 00:19:02,019
the investigation focused on Yvonne.
532
00:19:02,068 --> 00:19:03,442
Mrs. Thorsen, how long,
533
00:19:03,490 --> 00:19:05,175
had you been having an
affair with Morris Mackey?
534
00:19:05,224 --> 00:19:06,612
Please.
535
00:19:06,660 --> 00:19:08,266
I was not sleeping with him.
536
00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:09,378
But the footage...
537
00:19:09,426 --> 00:19:11,397
From "Every Rose Has
A Thorsen", we saw it.
538
00:19:11,445 --> 00:19:13,135
That was for the show.
539
00:19:13,449 --> 00:19:15,186
What, are you saying you staged it?
540
00:19:15,278 --> 00:19:18,450
It's a reality show.
Of course we staged it.
541
00:19:18,498 --> 00:19:20,495
I can prove it.
I have the rest of the footage.
542
00:19:20,543 --> 00:19:22,715
Boy, you better get
the hell up out of here!
543
00:19:25,505 --> 00:19:26,937
What the hell was that?!
544
00:19:27,036 --> 00:19:29,287
Are you seriously doing this
to me again?!
545
00:19:29,335 --> 00:19:30,556
In my own house!
546
00:19:30,605 --> 00:19:32,638
You got some nerve!
547
00:19:32,686 --> 00:19:34,580
L-Let's talk about all the women
you slept with
548
00:19:34,629 --> 00:19:36,250
when you were F-Flex?
549
00:19:36,298 --> 00:19:37,738
Cut!
550
00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:40,254
Cut, cut, cut, cut.
551
00:19:40,302 --> 00:19:41,838
Linc, buddy,
552
00:19:41,886 --> 00:19:43,605
you're going off-script.
553
00:19:43,653 --> 00:19:46,635
"I can't believe you're seriously
doing this to me again"?
554
00:19:46,684 --> 00:19:47,696
That's not the line.
555
00:19:47,744 --> 00:19:49,133
Yeah, man,
I was improv'ing a little.
556
00:19:49,181 --> 00:19:51,004
Yeah, maybe not do that, okay?
557
00:19:51,052 --> 00:19:52,658
It's a lot more powerful
if this is the first time
558
00:19:52,706 --> 00:19:54,051
Yvonne has stepped out on you.
559
00:19:54,099 --> 00:19:56,053
Okay.
So, Morris, how did I do?
560
00:19:56,251 --> 00:19:57,611
It was a bit big.
561
00:19:57,754 --> 00:19:59,621
Yeah, maybe, uh, dial it back a hair.
562
00:19:59,762 --> 00:20:00,933
Let's go again.
563
00:20:00,990 --> 00:20:02,450
Back to one.
564
00:20:02,498 --> 00:20:03,712
Go.
565
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,064
We're making a show, people.
566
00:20:06,594 --> 00:20:08,114
None of that was in the footage,
567
00:20:08,162 --> 00:20:09,434
you turned over to us.
568
00:20:09,531 --> 00:20:11,137
Oops. My bad.
569
00:20:11,186 --> 00:20:13,331
We want everything...
now...
570
00:20:13,379 --> 00:20:15,333
or you'll be arrested for obstruction.
571
00:20:15,585 --> 00:20:17,813
Ooh, that was good.
572
00:20:17,861 --> 00:20:19,815
Do you think I can get a copy of that?
573
00:20:19,863 --> 00:20:21,817
That will play really well in the show.
574
00:20:21,865 --> 00:20:23,515
Mrs. Thorsen, this is serious.
575
00:20:23,563 --> 00:20:25,343
Morris Mackey was
murdered in your house.
576
00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:26,909
Your son is still a suspect.
577
00:20:26,957 --> 00:20:28,955
Just like the police to only focus
578
00:20:29,003 --> 00:20:31,088
on what's in front of their nose.
579
00:20:31,136 --> 00:20:33,742
Morris Mackey didn't
just appear out of thin air
580
00:20:33,790 --> 00:20:35,222
when he started working for me.
581
00:20:35,270 --> 00:20:37,790
Honey, the man had enemies.
582
00:20:43,017 --> 00:20:44,449
They're the crazy ones!
583
00:20:44,497 --> 00:20:45,972
We're the sane ones!
584
00:20:46,020 --> 00:20:48,280
You're the cult!
You're sheep!
585
00:20:48,329 --> 00:20:50,237
Prior to working
with the Thorsen family,
586
00:20:50,285 --> 00:20:53,535
Morris had been hired by a bunch
of QAnon conspiracy theorists.
587
00:20:53,704 --> 00:20:55,048
Apparently, they didn't like
588
00:20:55,096 --> 00:20:57,027
the negative publicity
they were getting,
589
00:20:57,075 --> 00:20:58,920
and they wanted to show their side.
590
00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:00,291
Try to control the narrative.
591
00:21:00,339 --> 00:21:01,620
- Mm.
- So what happened?
592
00:21:01,668 --> 00:21:03,359
Morris was allowed
into the inner sanctum.
593
00:21:03,473 --> 00:21:05,017
Conducted dozens of interviews,
594
00:21:05,065 --> 00:21:07,121
with founders and followers, but...
595
00:21:07,169 --> 00:21:08,382
He didn't make a propaganda film,
596
00:21:08,431 --> 00:21:09,604
he told the truth.
597
00:21:09,652 --> 00:21:10,866
We're in a war.
598
00:21:10,914 --> 00:21:12,251
Every one of us is prepared
599
00:21:12,299 --> 00:21:13,665
to start killing, for our freedom.
600
00:21:13,714 --> 00:21:14,861
Morris may have won an Emmy,
601
00:21:14,910 --> 00:21:16,843
but he also pissed off
a lot of unhinged
602
00:21:16,892 --> 00:21:18,352
and hyper-violent people.
603
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,962
The storm is coming.
604
00:21:20,010 --> 00:21:21,771
There will be retribution.
605
00:21:24,072 --> 00:21:25,873
I've heard
rumors that you have insight
606
00:21:25,921 --> 00:21:27,333
into the QAnon angle on this case.
607
00:21:27,439 --> 00:21:30,451
Have you ever tried to put
toothpaste back in the tube?
608
00:21:30,499 --> 00:21:32,540
Look, I know it's an expression,
609
00:21:32,588 --> 00:21:35,021
but have you actually tried to do it?
610
00:21:35,328 --> 00:21:36,588
I have.
611
00:21:36,736 --> 00:21:38,416
It's basically impossible.
612
00:21:38,464 --> 00:21:40,157
And what do you think Q
is trying to tell people
613
00:21:40,205 --> 00:21:42,783
with his Q-Drops,
these cryptic messages?
614
00:21:42,844 --> 00:21:44,363
I really wasn't trying to say anything.
615
00:21:44,412 --> 00:21:47,454
I was just typing, and maybe
I got a little carried away.
616
00:21:47,621 --> 00:21:49,380
Wait.
What did you say?
617
00:21:50,476 --> 00:21:52,915
Well,
I guess now is as good a time as any,
618
00:21:52,963 --> 00:21:54,431
to reveal it.
619
00:21:56,517 --> 00:21:57,913
I'm Q.
620
00:21:57,961 --> 00:21:59,263
Smitty is Q?
621
00:21:59,312 --> 00:22:00,343
I'm sorry. What?
622
00:22:00,392 --> 00:22:01,999
- Lord, give me strength.
- What?
623
00:22:02,048 --> 00:22:04,442
A lot of writers use pseudonyms.
624
00:22:04,564 --> 00:22:07,140
Q is my first initial,
so...
625
00:22:07,328 --> 00:22:09,257
Hey, is my name down there?
626
00:22:10,747 --> 00:22:12,408
But it was an accident?
He...
627
00:22:12,456 --> 00:22:14,191
He didn't start it on purpose?
628
00:22:14,239 --> 00:22:15,399
That's what he said.
629
00:22:15,447 --> 00:22:16,802
Yeah, sounds like Smitty.
630
00:22:16,850 --> 00:22:18,934
I was trying to start
the fan-fiction club
631
00:22:18,982 --> 00:22:21,546
for "This Is Us,"
and things just got out of hand.
632
00:22:21,594 --> 00:22:23,314
What the hell
does "This is Us" fanfic
633
00:22:23,362 --> 00:22:24,505
have to do with a cult?
634
00:22:24,553 --> 00:22:27,639
I mistakenly mixed cough syrup
with diet pills
635
00:22:27,687 --> 00:22:30,514
when I was writing
this satanic, alien story line
636
00:22:30,563 --> 00:22:32,426
for Jack and Rebecca.
637
00:22:32,474 --> 00:22:34,847
I woke up the next morning
and read it...
638
00:22:35,260 --> 00:22:36,561
None of it made sense.
639
00:22:36,609 --> 00:22:38,867
But, overnight,
I'd gotten so many followers,
640
00:22:38,915 --> 00:22:40,173
I just went with it.
641
00:22:40,221 --> 00:22:43,037
You can't put the toothpaste
back in the tube.
642
00:22:44,269 --> 00:22:46,271
Morris had received threats,
643
00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:48,645
from hundreds of QAnon followers, but,
644
00:22:48,885 --> 00:22:50,501
when we started investigating them,
645
00:22:50,550 --> 00:22:52,591
one immediately stood out.
646
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,001
Tell
me about Connor Hart.
647
00:22:54,055 --> 00:22:55,384
What about him got your attention?
648
00:22:55,433 --> 00:22:58,831
Well, he was working as a
cameraman on the reality show, so...
649
00:22:58,879 --> 00:23:00,237
That.
650
00:23:01,416 --> 00:23:03,378
Connor,
thanks for coming down.
651
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,329
I'm not in trouble, am I?
652
00:23:05,377 --> 00:23:07,856
No. We just need to clear
a few things up.
653
00:23:08,342 --> 00:23:10,222
I told you everything I know.
654
00:23:10,719 --> 00:23:12,322
I was getting a battery, and,
655
00:23:12,370 --> 00:23:13,805
he was just lying there.
656
00:23:13,994 --> 00:23:15,347
I'm not sure if you're aware,
657
00:23:15,396 --> 00:23:18,034
but it's common to run
background checks on witnesses.
658
00:23:18,104 --> 00:23:19,784
And when we looked into you,
we discovered,
659
00:23:19,832 --> 00:23:21,065
that you're a member of QAnon.
660
00:23:21,114 --> 00:23:22,422
No, no, no, I...
661
00:23:22,542 --> 00:23:24,652
I may have gone
to a political rally or two,
662
00:23:24,700 --> 00:23:26,045
but I'm really not into that.
663
00:23:26,486 --> 00:23:27,786
I swear.
664
00:23:27,947 --> 00:23:29,440
We're in a war.
665
00:23:29,488 --> 00:23:32,312
Every one of us is prepared to
start killing for our freedom.
666
00:23:32,442 --> 00:23:33,879
The storm is coming.
667
00:23:34,060 --> 00:23:35,448
There will be retribution.
668
00:23:40,890 --> 00:23:43,454
So, clearly, you are a follower of Q.
669
00:23:43,502 --> 00:23:44,672
Why would you work for Morris?
670
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,131
Honestly?
671
00:23:46,330 --> 00:23:47,718
I realized, Morris was the best thing
672
00:23:47,767 --> 00:23:49,189
that could have
happened to the movement.
673
00:23:49,508 --> 00:23:50,678
That makes no sense.
674
00:23:50,864 --> 00:23:52,279
But it does.
675
00:23:52,554 --> 00:23:55,292
Morris's documentary exposed
who was a true believer.
676
00:23:55,556 --> 00:23:57,130
And who wasn't.
677
00:23:57,844 --> 00:23:59,501
He never admitted it,
678
00:23:59,909 --> 00:24:02,270
but, I think Morris was working for Q.
679
00:24:02,999 --> 00:24:04,737
That's why I followed
him to the next gig.
680
00:24:04,871 --> 00:24:07,275
Do you still consider yourself
a believer of Q?
681
00:24:07,382 --> 00:24:09,415
Well, some stuff didn't come true.
682
00:24:10,180 --> 00:24:12,265
The London bombing, the Pope's arrest,
683
00:24:12,313 --> 00:24:13,658
Zuckerberg still has a job.
684
00:24:13,706 --> 00:24:15,399
January 20th came and went,
685
00:24:15,634 --> 00:24:17,339
March 4th came and went.
686
00:24:17,579 --> 00:24:19,947
I'm starting to think
Kennedy is still dead.
687
00:24:20,365 --> 00:24:21,448
Both of them.
688
00:24:21,496 --> 00:24:22,627
Mm.
689
00:24:22,676 --> 00:24:25,631
So you don't believe in Q anymore?
690
00:24:25,805 --> 00:24:27,498
Oh, I believe every word.
691
00:24:27,631 --> 00:24:29,021
Connor was, um...
692
00:24:29,069 --> 00:24:30,533
Deranged?
693
00:24:30,940 --> 00:24:32,416
Let's say...
694
00:24:32,464 --> 00:24:35,065
Reality-challenged,
which doesn't make him a killer.
695
00:24:35,114 --> 00:24:36,182
No.
696
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:37,899
And the fact that he had
a camera on his shoulder,
697
00:24:37,947 --> 00:24:39,771
for the entire murder window,
698
00:24:39,819 --> 00:24:42,728
means that he couldn't
have killed Morris, so...
699
00:24:42,776 --> 00:24:43,905
We were back to square one.
700
00:24:43,953 --> 00:24:45,733
When the QAnon lead
didn't pan out,
701
00:24:45,781 --> 00:24:47,561
how did you pick up
the pieces of the case?
702
00:24:47,609 --> 00:24:50,303
We rolled up our sleeves
and put in the hours.
703
00:24:50,351 --> 00:24:52,062
We took on the painstaking process,
704
00:24:52,111 --> 00:24:54,568
of reviewing every
piece of video Morris shot,
705
00:24:54,616 --> 00:24:57,100
in the weeks before he died, including,
706
00:24:57,148 --> 00:24:59,637
the footage Yvonne "forgot" to give us.
707
00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:01,880
Until I found something
that changed everything.
708
00:25:04,627 --> 00:25:06,075
Lopez!
709
00:25:06,554 --> 00:25:08,072
Come look at this!
710
00:25:08,191 --> 00:25:09,841
So I immediately informed
Detective Lopez
711
00:25:09,890 --> 00:25:10,961
of what I discovered.
712
00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:12,805
- Look what I just found.
- Wow.
713
00:25:12,924 --> 00:25:14,007
What?
714
00:25:14,114 --> 00:25:15,427
Look.
715
00:25:16,328 --> 00:25:17,982
Okay.
716
00:25:23,341 --> 00:25:25,855
I thought I knew everything
about Patrick's murder.
717
00:25:26,039 --> 00:25:27,593
I had done my homework.
718
00:25:28,346 --> 00:25:30,688
But the truth,
was hiding right in front of me,
719
00:25:30,736 --> 00:25:32,108
all this time.
720
00:25:32,785 --> 00:25:33,908
I know,
721
00:25:33,956 --> 00:25:35,606
who killed Patrick Hayes.
722
00:25:35,831 --> 00:25:37,305
And I can prove it. I...
723
00:25:39,922 --> 00:25:41,455
Uh, someone's here.
724
00:25:42,288 --> 00:25:43,458
More to follow.
725
00:25:43,578 --> 00:25:45,158
That video was recorded
726
00:25:45,206 --> 00:25:47,208
minutes before Morris was murdered.
727
00:25:50,050 --> 00:25:51,330
I mean, Morris claiming
728
00:25:51,378 --> 00:25:52,476
that he knew who the killer was,
729
00:25:52,525 --> 00:25:53,822
must've been energizing for you.
730
00:25:53,871 --> 00:25:55,502
Finally a break
in your roommate's murder...
731
00:25:55,551 --> 00:25:56,666
No, he...
732
00:25:56,714 --> 00:25:58,102
He wasn't my roommate.
733
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,633
And I, I hate when people
call him that...
734
00:26:00,682 --> 00:26:01,760
you know, like we,
735
00:26:01,808 --> 00:26:03,518
found each other on
some French Craigslist,
736
00:26:03,567 --> 00:26:04,656
or something like that.
737
00:26:04,705 --> 00:26:05,900
Patrick was my best friend,
738
00:26:05,948 --> 00:26:07,380
from the time that we were little kids.
739
00:26:07,428 --> 00:26:08,789
I mean, I was at his house so often,
740
00:26:08,838 --> 00:26:10,529
his dad bought us two of everything,
741
00:26:10,578 --> 00:26:11,836
you know, like siblings.
742
00:26:11,885 --> 00:26:13,467
Yeah, Patrick was my brother.
743
00:26:13,608 --> 00:26:15,008
How did it feel to hear
that Morris thought
744
00:26:15,056 --> 00:26:16,697
he'd discovered who killed Patrick?
745
00:26:16,814 --> 00:26:17,987
I mean...
746
00:26:18,088 --> 00:26:21,219
There had been so many
theories over the years.
747
00:26:21,268 --> 00:26:24,510
And so many people think
that they had it figured out, I...
748
00:26:24,642 --> 00:26:27,452
I just, never really
got my hopes up about it.
749
00:26:27,501 --> 00:26:28,838
This was different, though. I mean,
750
00:26:28,886 --> 00:26:30,891
he made a break in the case,
and died minutes later.
751
00:26:30,940 --> 00:26:32,274
You have to see the connection.
752
00:26:32,323 --> 00:26:34,078
Well, uh...
753
00:26:34,322 --> 00:26:36,671
In the words of Detective Harper...
754
00:26:37,023 --> 00:26:38,705
We look for facts,
755
00:26:38,753 --> 00:26:40,108
not stories.
756
00:26:40,156 --> 00:26:41,806
Yeah, sure, but, I mean, the timing...
757
00:26:41,854 --> 00:26:43,982
I mean, these murders
had to be related.
758
00:26:44,030 --> 00:26:46,463
Whoever killed Patrick
also killed Morris.
759
00:26:46,511 --> 00:26:48,111
Is it possible,
Morris found out,
760
00:26:48,159 --> 00:26:49,466
that Aaron was the killer all along?
761
00:26:49,514 --> 00:26:50,564
Not a chance.
762
00:26:50,612 --> 00:26:51,924
The Paris police never had
763
00:26:51,972 --> 00:26:54,514
a shred of evidence, against Aaron.
764
00:26:54,562 --> 00:26:56,334
They fumbled the entire case.
765
00:26:56,383 --> 00:26:57,641
Right off the bat, the paparazzi
766
00:26:57,690 --> 00:26:59,301
completely contaminated
the crime scene.
767
00:27:16,541 --> 00:27:18,582
But Aaron's DNA
was all over the murder weapon.
768
00:27:18,673 --> 00:27:21,131
You mean the knife the killer
pulled from the kitchen block,
769
00:27:21,179 --> 00:27:23,167
on Aaron and Patrick's counter?
What...
770
00:27:23,215 --> 00:27:25,240
What do you want to bet,
that if we went to your house,
771
00:27:25,288 --> 00:27:26,471
we'd find your DNA,
772
00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:28,253
all over your stuff too?
I mean...
773
00:27:29,854 --> 00:27:31,969
- Was that too mean?
- No...
774
00:27:32,201 --> 00:27:33,676
That actually felt good.
775
00:27:33,767 --> 00:27:35,172
It was a dumb question.
776
00:27:35,221 --> 00:27:36,258
From the beginning,
777
00:27:36,307 --> 00:27:37,753
the French police's case against Aaron
778
00:27:37,801 --> 00:27:39,307
- seemed flawed...
- Oh, yeah.
779
00:27:39,409 --> 00:27:41,522
Their case was a mess, and,
780
00:27:41,570 --> 00:27:43,084
their forensics were compromised.
781
00:27:43,132 --> 00:27:44,703
I mean, the theory that Aaron
782
00:27:44,751 --> 00:27:46,268
killed Patrick because he didn't do
783
00:27:46,316 --> 00:27:47,921
his share of the chores,
never made sense.
784
00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:49,724
For one thing, they had a housekeeper.
785
00:27:49,805 --> 00:27:51,440
For another,
Aaron is not a psychopath,
786
00:27:51,489 --> 00:27:53,415
which you would have to be,
to stab your roommate,
787
00:27:53,464 --> 00:27:55,238
for leaving dirty dishes in the sink.
788
00:27:55,370 --> 00:27:57,791
I mean,
I've come close to stabbing him,
789
00:27:57,839 --> 00:27:59,806
over dirty dishes, but...
790
00:28:00,135 --> 00:28:01,451
That's different, we're married.
791
00:28:01,499 --> 00:28:02,603
Mm.
792
00:28:02,652 --> 00:28:04,092
What
do you say to the theory,
793
00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:06,064
that Aaron had a falling out,
with his roommate?
794
00:28:06,112 --> 00:28:08,806
Aaron and Patrick,
were out partying that night.
795
00:28:08,854 --> 00:28:10,503
Does that sound like
a broken friendship
796
00:28:10,551 --> 00:28:11,722
careening towards murder?
797
00:28:11,771 --> 00:28:12,712
By his own admission,
798
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,333
Aaron was taking prescription drugs.
799
00:28:14,381 --> 00:28:17,205
Yeah, for a football injury
he got in high school.
800
00:28:17,253 --> 00:28:18,780
They impair your ability
801
00:28:18,828 --> 00:28:21,364
to operate heavy machinery, not-not...
802
00:28:21,579 --> 00:28:23,211
Turn you into a hardened killer.
803
00:28:24,778 --> 00:28:26,519
Aaron passed out early.
804
00:28:26,872 --> 00:28:28,226
Woke up in the middle of the night.
805
00:28:28,275 --> 00:28:29,988
Went to pee, and,
806
00:28:30,458 --> 00:28:31,989
found Patrick's body.
807
00:28:40,737 --> 00:28:43,789
The French police took one
look at a young Black man,
808
00:28:43,838 --> 00:28:45,495
and decided he was the killer.
809
00:28:45,543 --> 00:28:47,975
I mean, they didn't even pursue
any other suspects.
810
00:28:48,023 --> 00:28:49,851
Bonjour, I appreciate you
speaking with me.
811
00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:51,812
Your accent is terrible.
812
00:28:52,114 --> 00:28:53,994
Um, Detective,
you've been accused of leading,
813
00:28:54,042 --> 00:28:55,978
an incredibly biased investigation...
814
00:28:56,049 --> 00:28:57,767
Mais non.
815
00:28:57,835 --> 00:28:59,135
We followed the facts.
816
00:28:59,218 --> 00:29:00,939
Mm, and the fact that Patrick
817
00:29:00,987 --> 00:29:02,605
picked up a woman
at the club that night?
818
00:29:02,654 --> 00:29:03,774
Collette Lavinge?
819
00:29:03,892 --> 00:29:06,420
She was seen leaving, the apartment,
820
00:29:06,476 --> 00:29:07,908
before the time of death.
821
00:29:07,956 --> 00:29:09,127
Understand?
822
00:29:09,176 --> 00:29:11,624
What about her jealous,
controlling boyfriend?
823
00:29:11,673 --> 00:29:13,346
Did you interview him?
824
00:29:14,884 --> 00:29:17,491
- No. We did not.
- Mm.
825
00:29:17,540 --> 00:29:20,021
But the thing that
ultimately got you released from prison,
826
00:29:20,069 --> 00:29:21,518
was the identification of this man.
827
00:29:21,796 --> 00:29:23,434
Yeah.
Collette's boyfriend, Julien.
828
00:29:23,483 --> 00:29:24,587
Handsome.
829
00:29:24,635 --> 00:29:25,752
French.
830
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,130
And, you know,
831
00:29:27,178 --> 00:29:28,670
let's just say it, he's super white.
832
00:29:28,718 --> 00:29:30,908
You know?
Uh, what is...
833
00:29:30,986 --> 00:29:33,107
What is "Finance Bro", in French?
834
00:29:33,249 --> 00:29:35,427
Shouldn't you know that?
You spent years in France.
835
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,785
Yeah, but I didn't...
836
00:29:36,833 --> 00:29:37,895
I didn't retain it.
837
00:29:38,071 --> 00:29:39,619
It was actually,
838
00:29:39,667 --> 00:29:41,228
a group of Internet sleuths,
839
00:29:41,276 --> 00:29:42,813
who found Collette's boyfriend.
840
00:29:42,861 --> 00:29:44,967
They spent countless hours,
841
00:29:45,015 --> 00:29:46,292
investigating Aaron's case.
842
00:29:46,341 --> 00:29:47,905
They also pointed the finger at dozens
843
00:29:47,953 --> 00:29:49,602
of innocent people,
ruining their lives.
844
00:29:49,650 --> 00:29:52,265
Yes. Some members of the group
took it a little too far.
845
00:29:52,580 --> 00:29:53,780
We've been looking at
846
00:29:53,828 --> 00:29:55,098
the Internet sleuths, actually.
847
00:29:55,308 --> 00:29:57,957
Any chance you post under the title
848
00:29:58,114 --> 00:29:59,534
"truecrimejunkie"?
849
00:30:00,271 --> 00:30:01,578
I...
850
00:30:02,564 --> 00:30:03,736
That-That...
851
00:30:03,784 --> 00:30:05,314
That doesn't s...
852
00:30:05,392 --> 00:30:07,049
I might have logged on once...
853
00:30:07,097 --> 00:30:09,167
- Once or twice, yeah.
- Seriously?
854
00:30:09,583 --> 00:30:10,874
I mean, can you not see,
855
00:30:10,922 --> 00:30:12,930
how people would take that
as a clear sign of bias?
856
00:30:12,978 --> 00:30:14,353
I categorically deny,
857
00:30:14,401 --> 00:30:16,692
any preferential treatment, okay?
858
00:30:16,775 --> 00:30:18,321
How can
you say that with a straight face,
859
00:30:18,369 --> 00:30:19,373
when it was revealed that Julien,
860
00:30:19,421 --> 00:30:21,329
was the son of the
French Finance Minister?
861
00:30:21,377 --> 00:30:22,457
Are you telling me you didn't get
862
00:30:22,505 --> 00:30:24,106
a phone call asking you...
863
00:30:24,154 --> 00:30:25,010
Merci beaucoup.
864
00:30:25,092 --> 00:30:26,350
C'est terminé.
865
00:30:26,408 --> 00:30:27,466
Merci.
866
00:30:27,514 --> 00:30:29,484
Oh, come on, don't do that.
Come back.
867
00:30:29,533 --> 00:30:30,877
So,
it must've been so frustrating,
868
00:30:30,925 --> 00:30:32,259
to learn that the French police
869
00:30:32,307 --> 00:30:34,370
knew his identity,
before your first trial, and,
870
00:30:34,418 --> 00:30:35,692
didn't say anything.
871
00:30:35,740 --> 00:30:38,145
I mean, yeah.
The-the good news was that,
872
00:30:38,193 --> 00:30:40,569
the fact that they ignored Julien...
873
00:30:40,618 --> 00:30:42,699
Uh, it got me my retrial.
874
00:30:42,747 --> 00:30:45,273
But, the bad news was,
875
00:30:45,321 --> 00:30:47,728
the unidentified DNA on the knife,
it...
876
00:30:47,776 --> 00:30:49,663
It didn't belong to Julien, so he...
877
00:30:49,711 --> 00:30:51,136
You know, he had an alibi.
878
00:30:51,185 --> 00:30:52,648
As horrible as the experience was,
879
00:30:52,697 --> 00:30:54,150
is there anything
that you actually miss,
880
00:30:54,198 --> 00:30:55,722
- from that time?
- I miss?
881
00:30:56,064 --> 00:30:57,306
God, no.
882
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,685
W...
883
00:30:59,198 --> 00:31:00,578
Well, Carlos.
884
00:31:00,963 --> 00:31:02,851
- Carlos?
- Yeah.
885
00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:05,036
Uh, Carlos the Jackal.
886
00:31:05,092 --> 00:31:06,481
He-he, was my cellmate.
887
00:31:06,661 --> 00:31:08,271
And, uh, man, pbht,
888
00:31:08,319 --> 00:31:09,593
he has some stories.
889
00:31:09,642 --> 00:31:11,052
So you're saying the Jackal,
890
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:13,239
got you through your year
and a half of incarceration?
891
00:31:13,288 --> 00:31:14,458
No.
892
00:31:14,513 --> 00:31:15,563
My mom did.
893
00:31:15,611 --> 00:31:16,982
Yeah, I don't...
894
00:31:17,122 --> 00:31:19,119
I don't think I would have got
through it, without her.
895
00:31:19,221 --> 00:31:20,566
Um...
896
00:31:20,654 --> 00:31:24,349
She actually leased
an apartment in Paris,
897
00:31:24,397 --> 00:31:25,829
until I was released.
898
00:31:25,877 --> 00:31:28,010
And, uh, she visited me every week.
899
00:31:28,059 --> 00:31:30,007
And I'll tell you what.
If they would have let her,
900
00:31:30,055 --> 00:31:31,415
she would have been
over there every day.
901
00:31:31,463 --> 00:31:32,882
Of course I moved to Paris.
902
00:31:32,931 --> 00:31:34,185
I'm his mother.
903
00:31:34,233 --> 00:31:36,970
I would have served the prison
time for him, if I could.
904
00:31:37,049 --> 00:31:39,064
- You're a close family.
- We are.
905
00:31:39,135 --> 00:31:40,452
We've been tested.
906
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:42,193
Were you close with Patrick?
907
00:31:42,509 --> 00:31:43,636
Yes.
908
00:31:43,685 --> 00:31:44,843
I adored him.
909
00:31:44,892 --> 00:31:46,284
He was a wonderful boy.
910
00:31:46,333 --> 00:31:47,383
According to your friends,
911
00:31:47,432 --> 00:31:48,793
you thought Patrick was a troublemaker,
912
00:31:48,841 --> 00:31:49,899
and a bad influence on Aaron.
913
00:31:49,948 --> 00:31:52,072
Anyone who said that, was lying.
914
00:31:52,197 --> 00:31:53,370
Yvonne...
915
00:31:53,418 --> 00:31:55,860
Were you in Paris,
the day Patrick was murdered?
916
00:31:56,646 --> 00:31:59,132
Of course not.
I was here in LA.
917
00:31:59,706 --> 00:32:01,007
How do you explain this footage,
918
00:32:01,056 --> 00:32:02,994
taken the day of Patrick's murder?
919
00:32:10,922 --> 00:32:12,410
Oh, hell, no.
920
00:32:12,459 --> 00:32:13,666
This interview is over.
921
00:32:13,744 --> 00:32:15,400
- Yvonne.
- No. No.
922
00:32:15,448 --> 00:32:17,572
We did not okay this question.
923
00:32:17,660 --> 00:32:19,186
Who do you think you are?
924
00:32:19,493 --> 00:32:21,712
- Fired!
- I actually don't work for you.
925
00:32:21,825 --> 00:32:24,080
You need to kiss my ass.
926
00:32:25,299 --> 00:32:27,179
Did you know
that your mother was in Paris,
927
00:32:27,227 --> 00:32:28,806
the day that Patrick was killed?
928
00:32:29,027 --> 00:32:30,368
What?
929
00:32:30,556 --> 00:32:31,795
No, she was...
930
00:32:31,953 --> 00:32:33,166
She was home in LA.
931
00:32:33,301 --> 00:32:34,654
Mm, we have footage of her,
932
00:32:34,702 --> 00:32:35,994
shopping on the Champs-Elysées,
933
00:32:36,042 --> 00:32:38,003
- the night of the murder.
- Okay, well, that...
934
00:32:38,051 --> 00:32:39,337
That's impossible.
935
00:32:39,486 --> 00:32:40,926
Isn't this her?
936
00:32:50,508 --> 00:32:51,833
Okay.
937
00:32:53,312 --> 00:32:55,005
Officer Thorsen, come back.
938
00:32:55,242 --> 00:32:57,215
Come on.
Let's finish this interview.
939
00:32:57,446 --> 00:32:59,290
Hey, there he is.
940
00:32:59,449 --> 00:33:00,809
- You lied to me.
- Jimmy, get down.
941
00:33:00,858 --> 00:33:02,144
You lied to everyone.
942
00:33:02,224 --> 00:33:04,224
I didn't want all my
private business out there,
943
00:33:04,273 --> 00:33:05,334
for all the world to see.
944
00:33:05,383 --> 00:33:06,886
Mom, you are literally producing
945
00:33:06,934 --> 00:33:08,554
a reality show about our lives.
946
00:33:08,603 --> 00:33:09,929
That's different.
947
00:33:10,024 --> 00:33:11,469
I was on trial for murder,
948
00:33:11,517 --> 00:33:13,407
- fighting for my life.
- Exactly.
949
00:33:13,475 --> 00:33:16,013
The fact that I was even in Paris,
on that night...
950
00:33:16,062 --> 00:33:17,193
how does that help you?
951
00:33:17,242 --> 00:33:18,266
And what was
your reaction,
952
00:33:18,314 --> 00:33:19,594
to the revelation that Aaron's mother
953
00:33:19,642 --> 00:33:21,045
was in Paris at the time of the murder?
954
00:33:21,094 --> 00:33:22,156
Like, bombshell.
955
00:33:22,205 --> 00:33:23,226
Game changer.
I mean,
956
00:33:23,274 --> 00:33:25,252
none of this stuff came
out at the time of the trial.
957
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:26,601
This is...
958
00:33:26,649 --> 00:33:28,603
It's so exciting,
what it means for the case...
959
00:33:28,651 --> 00:33:30,547
Not for Aaron.
His mom lied to him.
960
00:33:30,946 --> 00:33:32,297
Y-Yes, that...
961
00:33:32,345 --> 00:33:34,027
Well, that is true.
962
00:33:36,355 --> 00:33:37,656
Thanks for coming back in.
963
00:33:37,789 --> 00:33:39,188
We just need to clear something up,
964
00:33:39,236 --> 00:33:40,441
about the night Patrick was killed.
965
00:33:40,489 --> 00:33:41,531
Patrick?
966
00:33:41,579 --> 00:33:43,366
I thought this was
about Morris's murder.
967
00:33:43,415 --> 00:33:44,887
Oh, it's about both.
968
00:33:45,099 --> 00:33:48,467
See, you felt Patrick
was a bad influence on your son.
969
00:33:48,628 --> 00:33:50,883
So you flew Aaron to Paris,
to separate them.
970
00:33:50,992 --> 00:33:53,086
Only Patrick, followed Aaron there,
971
00:33:53,241 --> 00:33:55,369
so, you took matters
into your own hands.
972
00:33:55,472 --> 00:33:56,753
You flew to Paris,
973
00:33:56,811 --> 00:33:57,863
you killed Patrick.
974
00:33:57,912 --> 00:33:59,779
But somehow, Morris found out,
975
00:33:59,937 --> 00:34:02,112
so, to keep your deadly secret,
976
00:34:02,337 --> 00:34:03,919
you killed him too.
977
00:34:05,253 --> 00:34:08,664
Yeah, that's a fun theory...
978
00:34:08,866 --> 00:34:11,194
A good story, but you're wrong.
979
00:34:11,346 --> 00:34:13,039
Then explain why you went to Paris,
980
00:34:13,087 --> 00:34:14,852
and, why you kept it a secret.
981
00:34:14,928 --> 00:34:18,328
Because, I was with Jean-Pierre Darby.
982
00:34:18,377 --> 00:34:19,741
- Who?
- The footballer?
983
00:34:19,789 --> 00:34:21,275
Yes, we met a month before,
984
00:34:21,323 --> 00:34:22,988
at a fashion show in Milan.
985
00:34:23,090 --> 00:34:24,144
I'm...
986
00:34:24,192 --> 00:34:25,473
I'm sorry, you went to Paris,
987
00:34:25,521 --> 00:34:27,088
for an international bootie call?
988
00:34:27,137 --> 00:34:28,190
Yes.
989
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,868
And we were in bed all night.
990
00:34:29,917 --> 00:34:31,101
Ask him.
991
00:34:31,254 --> 00:34:33,160
Hell, ask the neighbors.
992
00:34:33,526 --> 00:34:34,855
They were determined,
993
00:34:34,904 --> 00:34:35,970
to convict you.
994
00:34:36,019 --> 00:34:37,803
Had it come out, that I was in town,
995
00:34:37,851 --> 00:34:39,370
they would've used it against you,
996
00:34:39,418 --> 00:34:42,155
said that we were conspiring,
to kill Patrick.
997
00:34:42,322 --> 00:34:44,168
Coming clean would've
only hurt your case,
998
00:34:44,216 --> 00:34:45,415
made it worse.
999
00:34:45,464 --> 00:34:47,629
Yeah, you know what? I forgot
how good you are at that.
1000
00:34:47,707 --> 00:34:48,770
At what?
1001
00:34:48,819 --> 00:34:50,272
At justifying yourself.
1002
00:34:50,659 --> 00:34:52,168
You lied in a murder trial,
1003
00:34:52,216 --> 00:34:53,697
you cheated on your husband,
1004
00:34:53,746 --> 00:34:55,255
and now you're the hero, right?
1005
00:34:55,869 --> 00:34:57,214
Yeah.
Sure, Mom.
1006
00:34:57,293 --> 00:34:58,730
We'll go with that.
1007
00:35:03,746 --> 00:35:05,626
You accused
Aaron's mother of the murder.
1008
00:35:05,674 --> 00:35:06,989
With almost no evidence to back it up.
1009
00:35:07,228 --> 00:35:08,442
I, I did.
1010
00:35:08,490 --> 00:35:10,399
And, uh...
1011
00:35:10,590 --> 00:35:11,750
In my defense,
1012
00:35:11,798 --> 00:35:13,883
I'd been scrubbing
reality show footage,
1013
00:35:13,931 --> 00:35:15,871
for over 200 hours at that point.
1014
00:35:15,974 --> 00:35:17,364
So who broke the case?
1015
00:35:17,450 --> 00:35:18,882
Oh, that was Detective Lopez.
1016
00:35:18,980 --> 00:35:20,933
My wife is a badass.
1017
00:35:20,981 --> 00:35:22,500
We knew the murders were connected.
1018
00:35:22,548 --> 00:35:24,197
And we knew that
Patrick's murder in Paris
1019
00:35:24,245 --> 00:35:26,324
was never properly investigated, so...
1020
00:35:26,372 --> 00:35:27,984
I dug back into that case.
1021
00:35:28,032 --> 00:35:30,116
Right now I'm just
trying to build a timeline,
1022
00:35:30,164 --> 00:35:32,727
getting to know more
about Patrick's life.
1023
00:35:32,775 --> 00:35:34,808
What did the four of
you do that last month?
1024
00:35:34,952 --> 00:35:36,209
No detail is too small.
1025
00:35:36,475 --> 00:35:38,118
Um...
1026
00:35:38,346 --> 00:35:40,090
Let's ask my brain.
1027
00:35:41,188 --> 00:35:43,365
I can tell you one thing
that we definitely didn't do.
1028
00:35:43,414 --> 00:35:44,565
Go to class.
1029
00:35:44,613 --> 00:35:45,909
I mean, Aaron's parents let him borrow
1030
00:35:45,957 --> 00:35:47,555
their private jet anytime he wanted,
1031
00:35:47,603 --> 00:35:49,000
so we went all around Europe.
1032
00:35:49,055 --> 00:35:51,206
I mean, Italy.
1033
00:35:51,534 --> 00:35:52,612
Greece.
1034
00:35:52,661 --> 00:35:54,377
French Riviera.
1035
00:35:54,535 --> 00:35:56,399
- Can I see?
- Yeah.
1036
00:35:56,597 --> 00:35:58,018
I thought, screw school,
1037
00:35:58,067 --> 00:35:59,126
when am I ever gonna get to visit
1038
00:35:59,175 --> 00:36:00,922
planet rich again, right?
So...
1039
00:36:00,970 --> 00:36:02,848
Santorini for the weekend?
1040
00:36:03,110 --> 00:36:04,237
Yes, please.
1041
00:36:04,285 --> 00:36:05,978
These photos of you guys on the tarmac,
1042
00:36:06,026 --> 00:36:07,893
you always have so much luggage.
1043
00:36:07,942 --> 00:36:08,953
I know.
1044
00:36:09,002 --> 00:36:11,666
Rowan always acted like
it was the Oregon Trail.
1045
00:36:11,784 --> 00:36:13,290
Why?
Every time I've seen him,
1046
00:36:13,338 --> 00:36:15,161
he was wearing a golf tee and jeans.
1047
00:36:15,209 --> 00:36:16,597
Not exactly a clotheshorse.
1048
00:36:16,832 --> 00:36:18,430
Oh, uh...
1049
00:36:19,126 --> 00:36:20,297
True.
1050
00:36:20,345 --> 00:36:21,561
I wonder what was in there.
1051
00:36:21,814 --> 00:36:23,942
Did you ever see Rowan
with drugs back then?
1052
00:36:24,131 --> 00:36:25,217
I mean...
1053
00:36:25,265 --> 00:36:26,487
Yeah, he was always kind of
1054
00:36:26,535 --> 00:36:27,626
"the life of the party,"
1055
00:36:27,675 --> 00:36:29,183
if you know what I mean.
Why?
1056
00:36:29,231 --> 00:36:30,251
Before Paris,
1057
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:32,613
Rowan's family in Iowa,
was in financial trouble.
1058
00:36:32,661 --> 00:36:33,910
He almost dropped out of school.
1059
00:36:33,959 --> 00:36:36,435
Now, he lives in Brentwood,
and drives a Porsche.
1060
00:36:36,578 --> 00:36:38,018
I guess?
1061
00:36:38,406 --> 00:36:39,706
I...
1062
00:36:39,754 --> 00:36:42,195
I see you're very excited,
and I love that, I...
1063
00:36:42,408 --> 00:36:43,493
I'm not really following.
1064
00:36:43,542 --> 00:36:44,592
I...
1065
00:36:45,753 --> 00:36:47,063
Hey, Nolan.
1066
00:36:47,196 --> 00:36:48,453
Where's Rowan?
1067
00:36:48,557 --> 00:36:50,079
Uh, he just left.
1068
00:36:50,128 --> 00:36:52,047
- Why? I thought you were done with him?
- I was...
1069
00:36:52,095 --> 00:36:54,293
Until I realized,
he's the one who killed Patrick.
1070
00:36:56,199 --> 00:36:58,152
Alright. Here we go.
1071
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,076
- Here we go.
- Nice, nice.
1072
00:37:00,124 --> 00:37:01,251
Bro, it's been crazy.
1073
00:37:01,299 --> 00:37:02,659
I've added like
half a million followers
1074
00:37:02,707 --> 00:37:03,949
from all the publicity.
1075
00:37:03,998 --> 00:37:05,167
What? You think, uh...
1076
00:37:05,215 --> 00:37:06,583
You think, uh, Aaron did it?
1077
00:37:06,695 --> 00:37:07,884
Pbht. Of course he did.
1078
00:37:07,933 --> 00:37:09,408
The guy's a total psycho.
1079
00:37:09,457 --> 00:37:10,834
Okay, watch this...
1080
00:37:14,834 --> 00:37:16,319
Aw. Fudge.
1081
00:37:16,378 --> 00:37:17,459
Hold on,
I'm gonna do it again...
1082
00:37:17,507 --> 00:37:18,880
Okay, okay.
1083
00:37:19,357 --> 00:37:21,179
- Rowan.
- What the hell?
1084
00:37:21,465 --> 00:37:22,924
We got a warrant for your arrest.
1085
00:37:22,973 --> 00:37:24,024
What?
1086
00:37:24,073 --> 00:37:25,553
For what?
1087
00:37:25,714 --> 00:37:27,212
For the murders
of Patrick Hayes,
1088
00:37:27,267 --> 00:37:28,432
and Morris Mackey.
1089
00:37:28,481 --> 00:37:30,758
- Oh, snap.
- That's crazy.
1090
00:37:30,806 --> 00:37:32,731
And wrong.
I didn't...
1091
00:37:32,934 --> 00:37:34,066
Why would you even think that?
1092
00:37:34,114 --> 00:37:35,834
Because Patrick found out
you were smuggling drugs
1093
00:37:35,882 --> 00:37:38,157
in Aaron's private jet, and
threatened to tell the police.
1094
00:37:38,293 --> 00:37:40,420
Somehow Morris found out
that you killed Patrick
1095
00:37:40,468 --> 00:37:41,481
to protect your secret,
1096
00:37:41,529 --> 00:37:42,727
so you killed him too.
1097
00:37:42,775 --> 00:37:43,989
- Come on.
- That's, I mean.
1098
00:37:44,037 --> 00:37:45,077
That's so-so wrong...
1099
00:37:45,125 --> 00:37:46,600
- Hey! Rowan!
- Rowan!
1100
00:37:48,563 --> 00:37:49,821
- Okay.
- Bro, wait.
1101
00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:55,612
- Oh.
- Oh, snap.
1102
00:37:58,919 --> 00:38:00,153
You okay?
1103
00:38:00,488 --> 00:38:02,007
Alright, you're fine.
1104
00:38:02,102 --> 00:38:03,362
Stand up.
1105
00:38:03,578 --> 00:38:05,141
- Put it down.
- You're under arrest.
1106
00:38:05,189 --> 00:38:07,926
Rowan always had these crazy plans.
1107
00:38:07,974 --> 00:38:09,057
You know...
1108
00:38:09,106 --> 00:38:10,563
"Let's go to Morocco," or,
1109
00:38:10,611 --> 00:38:14,163
"Dude, I heard about this
sick party in Ibiza...", and...
1110
00:38:14,704 --> 00:38:15,754
I-I...
1111
00:38:15,802 --> 00:38:17,448
I never thought about it,
1112
00:38:17,521 --> 00:38:18,696
but, he was the one,
1113
00:38:18,744 --> 00:38:21,260
who decided where we were flying to,
always.
1114
00:38:21,379 --> 00:38:22,778
And, you know, now,
1115
00:38:22,826 --> 00:38:25,268
looking back at it,
with "cop eyes," I mean...
1116
00:38:25,724 --> 00:38:27,475
It is so obvious...
1117
00:38:27,701 --> 00:38:29,878
That Rowan was up to something.
1118
00:38:30,431 --> 00:38:32,193
I just could never see it.
1119
00:38:33,608 --> 00:38:34,757
I mean,
1120
00:38:34,805 --> 00:38:36,336
Patrick did, though.
1121
00:38:37,692 --> 00:38:39,251
But, like, why, why...
1122
00:38:39,299 --> 00:38:40,872
Why didn't he tell me, you know?
1123
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,247
We talked about everything...
1124
00:38:42,296 --> 00:38:43,337
You know, why wouldn't he...
1125
00:38:43,386 --> 00:38:44,866
Why wouldn't he tell me about this?
1126
00:38:46,882 --> 00:38:48,497
You know, if he had...
1127
00:38:51,622 --> 00:38:52,971
Everything...
1128
00:38:53,130 --> 00:38:54,712
Everything would've been so different.
1129
00:39:02,898 --> 00:39:04,278
Aaron.
1130
00:39:09,733 --> 00:39:11,176
Is it true?
1131
00:39:11,603 --> 00:39:12,991
Yes, sir.
1132
00:39:14,171 --> 00:39:17,032
Rowan Clauson confessed
to murdering Patrick.
1133
00:39:20,220 --> 00:39:21,924
I'm so sorry I didn't believe you.
1134
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,028
Can you ever forgive me?
1135
00:39:28,627 --> 00:39:30,123
Of course.
1136
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,134
After all this time,
1137
00:39:36,182 --> 00:39:38,190
the case of who killed Patrick Hayes,
1138
00:39:38,238 --> 00:39:39,844
was finally solved.
1139
00:39:39,966 --> 00:39:41,889
But the question that lingers is...
1140
00:39:41,937 --> 00:39:45,110
Is whether the emotional
wounds will heal...
1141
00:39:46,290 --> 00:39:48,129
Feels gross, right?
1142
00:39:48,177 --> 00:39:50,892
Yeah.
1143
00:39:53,313 --> 00:39:54,728
Two people were dead.
1144
00:39:55,956 --> 00:39:58,501
Even after you catch the guy,
it's still just...
1145
00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:59,758
Awful.
1146
00:39:59,806 --> 00:40:01,790
I'm just glad
1147
00:40:01,838 --> 00:40:03,259
the truth finally came out.
1148
00:40:03,307 --> 00:40:06,845
Aaron's innocence,
is now proven without a doubt.
1149
00:40:07,441 --> 00:40:10,048
He deserves to move on
with the rest of his life.
1150
00:40:10,202 --> 00:40:12,433
And we'll be here to help him do that.
1151
00:40:12,707 --> 00:40:14,183
And now that it's over,
1152
00:40:14,231 --> 00:40:15,852
what's your view of Aaron Thorsen?
1153
00:40:15,938 --> 00:40:17,160
Ah.
1154
00:40:17,209 --> 00:40:18,516
I will admit,
1155
00:40:18,564 --> 00:40:21,394
it took a minute,
for Aaron to win me over, but...
1156
00:40:21,727 --> 00:40:23,454
Once he did, I knew he'd be a good cop.
1157
00:40:23,617 --> 00:40:25,672
Alright, I'm done.
1158
00:40:25,804 --> 00:40:27,099
Uh, wait.
1159
00:40:27,148 --> 00:40:28,852
This is not gonna air,
1160
00:40:29,035 --> 00:40:30,708
before his training is done, right?
1161
00:40:30,757 --> 00:40:31,765
'Cause I gotta...
1162
00:40:31,813 --> 00:40:33,087
I gotta keep him hungry.
1163
00:40:33,165 --> 00:40:35,947
I never once stopped
believing in my boy.
1164
00:40:36,383 --> 00:40:38,598
Has he forgiven you,
for the lie?
1165
00:40:38,903 --> 00:40:40,383
He will.
1166
00:40:40,431 --> 00:40:42,650
There's nothing our family
can't get through.
1167
00:40:42,911 --> 00:40:44,300
It looks like Aaron
will finally be able
1168
00:40:44,348 --> 00:40:45,692
to put all this behind him.
1169
00:40:45,740 --> 00:40:47,999
That's, that's not really how it works.
1170
00:40:48,129 --> 00:40:50,136
I mean, as someone who has,
1171
00:40:50,563 --> 00:40:52,688
had friends killed, you never really,
1172
00:40:52,736 --> 00:40:53,831
get closure.
1173
00:40:53,976 --> 00:40:55,893
All you can hope for is that,
1174
00:40:56,344 --> 00:40:57,647
the memories of them...
1175
00:40:57,696 --> 00:40:59,560
The, the, good times,
1176
00:40:59,608 --> 00:41:01,883
you had together, are what you see,
1177
00:41:01,931 --> 00:41:02,883
when you think of them.
1178
00:41:02,931 --> 00:41:04,040
How does it feel,
1179
00:41:04,088 --> 00:41:05,843
having the truth come
out after all these years?
1180
00:41:07,873 --> 00:41:08,923
I-I...
1181
00:41:08,971 --> 00:41:09,993
I don't know.
It's...
1182
00:41:10,041 --> 00:41:11,451
It's still sinking in.
1183
00:41:11,557 --> 00:41:13,293
This is obviously gonna make
compelling episodes
1184
00:41:13,342 --> 00:41:14,405
of your reality show.
1185
00:41:14,454 --> 00:41:15,751
Oh, no.
That...
1186
00:41:16,284 --> 00:41:17,746
"Every Rose Has A Thorsen"
1187
00:41:17,794 --> 00:41:19,904
is not moving forward,
I mean, it was...
1188
00:41:19,952 --> 00:41:22,792
it was a mistake to do
in the first place, yeah.
1189
00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:23,991
I mean, the only reason
1190
00:41:24,039 --> 00:41:25,729
why I did agree to it, was to,
1191
00:41:25,777 --> 00:41:27,430
rehabilitate my image.
1192
00:41:27,604 --> 00:41:30,464
Um, but ironically, it...
1193
00:41:30,677 --> 00:41:32,389
Ended up doing something even better...
1194
00:41:32,570 --> 00:41:34,995
Which was, uncover the truth.
1195
00:41:35,312 --> 00:41:37,175
So what are you gonna do now?
1196
00:41:43,846 --> 00:41:44,896
Live.
1197
00:41:44,944 --> 00:41:47,345
For myself.
1198
00:41:47,394 --> 00:41:49,874
And for Patrick.
1199
00:41:49,923 --> 00:41:51,059
Mm-hmm.
1200
00:41:51,122 --> 00:41:53,587
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