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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 00:05.806 --> 00:11.043 My name is melanie myers, and the early '70s, 00:11.145 --> 00:13.212 I lived in a duplex in west hollywood, 00:13.314 --> 00:16.515 and paige young was the girl 00:16.617 --> 00:19.785 that lived behind me in the carriage house. 00:19.887 --> 00:21.854 She was literally the girl next door. 00:21.956 --> 00:26.558 Paige was an artist and a-- and a pretty good one. 00:26.660 --> 00:30.629 She had her own artistic vision. 00:30.731 --> 00:33.866 She was also a "playboy" centerfold. 00:33.968 --> 00:36.935 And I remember the day she said to me 00:37.038 --> 00:39.605 that she was thinking about leaving, 00:39.707 --> 00:42.241 and I thought she meant she was leaving los angeles. 00:42.343 --> 00:45.944 But she was actually saying to me 00:46.047 --> 00:48.280 that she was going to kill herself. 00:50.584 --> 00:54.319 I found her lying on the american flag. 00:54.422 --> 00:57.423 I found her...Dead. 00:57.525 --> 01:02.728 She shot herself in the head. 01:02.830 --> 01:05.497 And there was a-a large wall. 01:05.599 --> 01:09.034 And on this wall 01:09.136 --> 01:12.004 were all these different pictures and clippings 01:12.106 --> 01:14.873 out of newspapers, 01:14.975 --> 01:18.243 and at the top of this mural of hers 01:18.345 --> 01:20.979 was "hugh hefner is the devil." 01:21.082 --> 01:25.017 в™Єв™Єв™Є 01:25.119 --> 01:26.652 so I walked back to my house, 01:26.754 --> 01:29.388 and I-I remember sitting on the bed, 01:29.490 --> 01:32.191 and I called the police. 01:32.293 --> 01:36.161 In two days, everything was cleaned out and gone. 01:36.263 --> 01:38.130 It was like it never happened. 01:38.232 --> 01:42.367 How does a "playboy" centerfold kill herself 01:42.470 --> 01:45.604 with a message "hugh hefner is the devil," 01:45.706 --> 01:49.274 and it doesn't hit any of the media outlets? 01:49.376 --> 01:52.644 This whole thing had to do with killing herself 01:52.746 --> 01:57.516 to leave a message behind for other women like her, 01:57.618 --> 02:03.122 and the message was to be careful 02:03.224 --> 02:06.925 and that these men were damaging, 02:07.027 --> 02:11.697 that they were predatory. 02:11.799 --> 02:13.799 [motor revving] 02:13.901 --> 02:15.467 my name is hugh hefner. 02:15.569 --> 02:17.436 I'm editor-publisher of "playboy" magazine. 02:17.538 --> 02:20.439 When hugh hefner was just 27, he fashioned himself 02:20.541 --> 02:23.075 and "playboy" as the face of sexual liberation. 02:23.177 --> 02:26.745 Playboy is one of the most famous brand names in the world. 02:26.847 --> 02:29.181 I would like to be remembered as somebody who played some 02:29.283 --> 02:33.986 positive part in changing the social-sexual values of my time. 02:34.088 --> 02:38.857 I believe that hef pulled one over on the whole world. 02:38.959 --> 02:40.626 The fantasy of playboy that he created 02:40.728 --> 02:44.229 did not allow for the consent of the women. 02:44.331 --> 02:46.932 When it came to hefner's buddies, 02:47.034 --> 02:49.067 you had to keep those secrets quiet. 02:49.170 --> 02:51.136 -What have you got for free? -[laughs] 02:51.238 --> 02:53.238 when you get someone that powerful, 02:53.340 --> 02:55.073 anything could happen. Anything. 02:55.176 --> 02:56.675 The people who were really there-- 02:56.777 --> 02:58.410 they're the ones who know the real truth. 02:58.512 --> 02:59.878 I want to be a voice 02:59.980 --> 03:03.081 for the women who had suffered the most at his hands. 03:03.184 --> 03:06.518 в™Єв™Єв™Є 03:09.490 --> 03:12.624 в™Єв™Єв™Є 03:20.601 --> 03:25.504 I worked for hugh hefner in the--the holmby hills mansion. 03:25.606 --> 03:29.107 I was one of his, uh, personal valets. 03:29.210 --> 03:33.111 Throughout history, butlers have always been invisible. 03:33.214 --> 03:36.381 We got to witness it. 03:36.483 --> 03:41.153 We butlers and valets-- we couldn't participate. 03:41.255 --> 03:42.621 в™Єв™Єв™Є 03:42.723 --> 03:45.857 thank you, darling. 03:45.960 --> 03:48.794 I was a hostess at the major parties 03:48.896 --> 03:51.363 at the playboy mansion west. 03:51.465 --> 03:54.600 Part of the job was to meet people at the door 03:54.702 --> 03:56.835 and guide them through the party. 03:56.937 --> 03:58.637 The sense I got was 03:58.739 --> 04:01.373 the young girls didn't have a clue. 04:01.475 --> 04:04.176 At that age, they don't know better. 04:04.278 --> 04:07.512 I think for girls from small towns, 04:07.615 --> 04:10.582 it was like, "oh, my god, I'm gonna be a star." 04:10.684 --> 04:12.684 I don't think they thought much about 04:12.786 --> 04:15.520 what would happen when they got there. 04:16.657 --> 04:22.394 Mr. Hefner always wanted to be a famous film producer. 04:22.496 --> 04:23.862 That's why he came to hollywood. 04:23.964 --> 04:27.032 I think that movies had a tremendous impact 04:27.134 --> 04:28.967 on my dreams, fantasies when I was a kid. 04:29.069 --> 04:30.535 [yells] 04:30.638 --> 04:33.005 the one time hef tried to be a producer on a film, 04:33.107 --> 04:34.940 it was roman polanski's "macbeth," 04:35.042 --> 04:37.676 and he got his shirt handed to him. 04:37.778 --> 04:40.879 Lost a lot of money and-- and did very poorly. 04:40.981 --> 04:42.381 It's a terrible film. 04:42.483 --> 04:44.950 [laughing] it's a bad adaptation of "macbeth." 04:45.052 --> 04:47.719 but clearly, hef didn't make another movie, you know, 04:47.821 --> 04:49.488 or playboy didn't attempt to make another movie. 04:49.590 --> 04:53.358 Hef has accomplished so much in his lifetime, 04:53.460 --> 04:55.794 I don't think the average person could understand 04:55.896 --> 04:58.363 how obsessed with fame he still was, 04:58.465 --> 05:01.099 like, how important it was to have celebrities at his parties 05:01.201 --> 05:03.335 and how important it was to him to stay relevant. 05:03.437 --> 05:08.740 They always thought he was just a cheap imitation, a wannabe. 05:08.842 --> 05:10.809 -Like the oscars. -[laughter] 05:10.911 --> 05:13.078 they thought that he'd tried too hard 05:13.180 --> 05:17.082 to be accepted in hollywood, that he didn't have any talents. 05:17.184 --> 05:20.452 It was known into hollywood that if you knew hef, 05:20.554 --> 05:23.221 you could come up there to the mansion, 05:23.324 --> 05:26.458 and you could have sex. You could trade the girls, 05:26.560 --> 05:29.861 trade sex, because hefner wanted 05:29.963 --> 05:31.330 that contact with hollywood. 05:31.432 --> 05:34.533 He wanted to use it to his advantage. 05:34.635 --> 05:38.470 Hefner expanded the casting bedroom 05:38.572 --> 05:40.839 to the casting mansion. 05:40.941 --> 05:43.408 Reporter: Half of hollywood seems to come to hefner's place 05:43.510 --> 05:44.876 at one time or another. 05:44.978 --> 05:47.179 A lot of people would come here like warren beatty 05:47.281 --> 05:49.047 and jack nicholson and bill cosby. 05:49.149 --> 05:51.149 If they go out with the p-- with the public, 05:51.251 --> 05:54.419 it's hard for them to relax and--and just enjoy themselves, 05:54.521 --> 05:57.489 uh, because the, uh, people are very excited about seeing them, 05:57.591 --> 05:58.824 whereas when they come up here, and nobody bothers them. 05:58.926 --> 06:00.892 They can do whatever they want. 06:00.994 --> 06:03.495 Movie night, he had every celebrity 06:03.597 --> 06:06.264 from robin williams to chevy chase. 06:06.367 --> 06:10.769 Hef did things that would elevate him in hollywood. 06:10.871 --> 06:12.804 All these, uh, celebrities would come, 06:12.906 --> 06:16.108 and here's arnold before he was arnold. 06:16.210 --> 06:20.712 There's wilt, and there's jimmy caan and cosby. 06:20.814 --> 06:23.949 They were like in a candy store up there--these men. 06:24.051 --> 06:26.651 Mary o'connor was a pimp in charge. 06:26.754 --> 06:29.988 She would call up my office and say, "we're having a party. 06:30.090 --> 06:31.256 Send the bunnies up." 06:31.358 --> 06:33.325 mary o'connor would call, I think, 06:33.427 --> 06:34.826 every girl in the mansion and say, 06:34.928 --> 06:36.928 "you're expected to be at the movies tonight." 06:37.030 --> 06:39.965 you must be there to be seen. 06:40.067 --> 06:41.767 в™Єв™Єв™Є 06:41.869 --> 06:43.869 when you become a playmate, 06:43.971 --> 06:46.104 you go to the mansion and you politic 06:46.206 --> 06:47.906 to be playmate of the year. 06:48.008 --> 06:49.307 I mean, literally, that's how-- 06:49.410 --> 06:50.976 what I was told by marilyn grabowski, 06:51.078 --> 06:53.178 the editor of "playboy" at the time. 06:53.280 --> 06:55.847 It's Sunday night. Let's do movie night. 06:55.949 --> 06:58.250 That's how it was laid out. 06:58.352 --> 07:00.819 We would turn the living room into a theater. 07:00.921 --> 07:02.454 So, we had one couch in the front, 07:02.556 --> 07:04.556 another couch behind the front couch, 07:04.658 --> 07:05.991 and then the rest would be seats. 07:06.093 --> 07:08.427 Girls were very, very, very insecure 07:08.529 --> 07:10.796 because there was a hierarchy there. 07:10.898 --> 07:12.564 It was like a pyramid, 07:12.666 --> 07:15.367 mostly based on how beautiful you were. 07:15.469 --> 07:19.070 At movie night, I got to sit in the last row in the back. 07:19.173 --> 07:20.906 [laughs] 07:21.008 --> 07:26.978 hefner would sit on the couch in the center right up in front. 07:27.080 --> 07:28.914 His girlfriends are on either side 07:29.016 --> 07:30.982 or a couple on either side, 07:31.084 --> 07:35.053 and then the director friends, the celebrity friends. 07:35.155 --> 07:38.089 So vips were up in front. 07:38.192 --> 07:42.227 Girls were encouraged to talk and engage with vips. 07:42.329 --> 07:44.763 That was the whole point of being up there. 07:44.865 --> 07:47.666 Hef admired celebrities so much. 07:47.768 --> 07:50.635 He was--he was enamored by them, 07:50.737 --> 07:53.171 and to have them in his life and then him being the-- 07:53.273 --> 07:56.374 in the long run, the controller, he got off on that. 07:56.477 --> 07:59.010 He--that made him feel like mr. Big. 07:59.112 --> 08:02.848 You could see by the place the butler would lead you to-- 08:02.950 --> 08:06.785 to be seated that there was, you know, there was a structure. 08:06.887 --> 08:12.057 It was like, um, you're assigned a seat at a wedding. 08:12.159 --> 08:14.159 It's all arranged by the secretaries. 08:14.261 --> 08:17.195 They would organize the seating. 08:17.297 --> 08:20.765 I was put with tony curtis a lot, 08:20.868 --> 08:23.735 and he really had a drinking problem, 08:23.837 --> 08:25.470 and it was very public. 08:25.572 --> 08:29.307 So I dreaded, you know, when he started drinking 08:29.409 --> 08:32.544 because I didn't know what-- what he might expect. 08:32.646 --> 08:36.281 I unfortunately sat next to bill cosby. 08:36.383 --> 08:38.583 I didn't know who bill cosby was 08:38.685 --> 08:42.921 until he put his hand down my knickers. 08:43.023 --> 08:44.322 I was kind of surprised. 08:44.424 --> 08:47.259 It's not the sort of thing you would do in England. 08:47.361 --> 08:50.161 There's the grotto. 08:50.264 --> 08:53.098 For the specials, they made-- they heightened the-- 08:53.200 --> 08:55.800 the decadence. There was a lot of decadence. 08:55.903 --> 08:57.602 в™Єв™Єв™Є 08:57.704 --> 08:59.871 they were a constant flow of pretty faces 08:59.973 --> 09:04.442 that circulated throughout the mansion for movie night, 09:04.545 --> 09:06.778 because they were just being used. 09:06.880 --> 09:08.947 They liquored 'em up, gave 'em drugs, 09:09.049 --> 09:10.549 and they ended up in the jacuzzi, 09:10.651 --> 09:11.983 and it was a free-for-all. 09:12.085 --> 09:13.785 Maybe they knew what they were getting into, 09:13.887 --> 09:16.621 but they didn't know what they were really getting into. 09:18.225 --> 09:21.092 I worked at a men's clothing store in beverly hills, 09:21.194 --> 09:24.162 and somebody came by and asked me if I wanted to go 09:24.264 --> 09:27.999 to the playboy mansion, and I gave them my number, 09:28.101 --> 09:32.671 and that night, paige was ready to go, and I wasn't. 09:32.773 --> 09:34.005 So she went ahead of me, 09:34.107 --> 09:37.008 and when I showed up at the playboy mansion, 09:37.110 --> 09:39.144 hefner was at the end of the table, 09:39.246 --> 09:41.046 and paige was on one side of him. 09:41.148 --> 09:42.547 в™Єв™Єв™Є 09:42.649 --> 09:47.218 paige was very invested in the whole playboy lifestyle. 09:47.321 --> 09:49.955 What they were preaching was the girl next door, 09:50.057 --> 09:56.261 but free sex, and paige was their poster girl. 09:56.363 --> 09:57.862 She was not only beautiful, 09:57.965 --> 10:00.298 but she seemed very wild and free. 10:00.400 --> 10:05.437 The time I went up there, paige ended up in the grotto. 10:05.539 --> 10:09.174 And I do think that's where her thinking started to go wrong. 10:09.276 --> 10:12.877 She really didn't get the whole hollywood thing at all. 10:12.980 --> 10:16.748 You have to be careful who you're sleeping with. 10:16.850 --> 10:23.254 What I think happened to her is somebody broke her. 10:23.357 --> 10:28.893 Somebody did something to her that she found unacceptable, 10:28.996 --> 10:33.398 and she didn't know how to go on from there. 10:36.303 --> 10:39.704 в™Єв™Єв™Є 10:41.975 --> 10:45.977 when I was a teenager in the '70s, 10:46.079 --> 10:50.448 the female standards of beauty were the playboy playmates. 10:50.550 --> 10:53.852 They were thought of as perfect. 10:53.954 --> 10:55.253 -[camera shutter clicks] -nice. 10:55.355 --> 10:56.755 They were a 10. 10:56.857 --> 10:58.657 The hair and the makeup is beautiful today. 10:58.759 --> 11:03.428 I-I was definitely not a 10, and I was told that, too, so... 11:03.530 --> 11:07.732 I thought their lives would be so smooth and easy 11:07.834 --> 11:11.302 compared to mine. 11:11.405 --> 11:14.039 When I found out that wasn't the case, 11:14.141 --> 11:17.909 I was really shocked, and it's sort of a fascination 11:18.011 --> 11:21.179 that I've kept over the decades. 11:21.281 --> 11:24.849 I'm always interested in when things appear one way, 11:24.951 --> 11:27.085 but they're really very different. 11:27.187 --> 11:29.521 в™Єв™Єв™Є 11:29.623 --> 11:30.955 in December of 2014, 11:31.058 --> 11:33.091 there was an article in the "daily mail" 11:33.193 --> 11:36.828 about paige young, a former playboy playmate, 11:36.930 --> 11:41.466 who had killed herself in 1974. 11:41.568 --> 11:43.735 That was common knowledge. 11:43.837 --> 11:51.409 But this article had a lot of new information about her death. 11:51.511 --> 11:55.213 I was surprised to read about the scene 11:55.315 --> 12:00.218 where there's a whole mural of hugh hefner. 12:00.320 --> 12:02.854 I thought it was a big deal, 12:02.956 --> 12:04.556 and it made me wonder, what did he do? 12:04.658 --> 12:11.496 What happened that caused her to focus on hugh hefner so much? 12:11.598 --> 12:16.568 In the suicide note, it has listed men that she felt 12:16.670 --> 12:19.904 she'd been abused by, including hugh hefner 12:20.006 --> 12:25.510 and the director john huston, who was a major cultural icon. 12:25.612 --> 12:31.716 In the early '70s, when they were filming "chinatown," 12:31.818 --> 12:35.286 the cast and crew would hang out a lot at the playboy mansion. 12:35.388 --> 12:38.823 So there is a chance huston spent time at the mansion 12:38.925 --> 12:40.425 during the filming. 12:40.527 --> 12:44.295 Paige told me that member 12:44.397 --> 12:49.334 of his playboy mansion entourage or whatever it was, 12:49.436 --> 12:53.538 had filmed her having sex. 12:53.640 --> 12:59.077 Paige was so over the top upset about that tape. 12:59.179 --> 13:01.780 This was the end of the world for her. 13:01.882 --> 13:08.086 She didn't seem that shy, you know, about sex, 13:08.188 --> 13:12.757 and it made me wonder, what was on that tape? 13:12.859 --> 13:14.259 What I actually keep thinking is 13:14.361 --> 13:18.596 there's more on that than just sex. 13:18.698 --> 13:20.965 Hef--he had tapes on everybody. 13:21.067 --> 13:23.234 The first time I looked up at the two screens he had 13:23.336 --> 13:25.804 for the tv in the bedroom, 13:25.906 --> 13:28.773 and I realized that was me, and I'm like, 13:28.875 --> 13:30.742 "whoa, what are you doing?" 13:30.844 --> 13:34.412 and when we started bringing other people into the bedroom, 13:34.514 --> 13:38.416 some girls had the same reaction like, "whoa," 13:38.518 --> 13:40.218 and he would-- he would do the... 13:40.320 --> 13:42.654 "oh, well, I can turn it off. 13:42.756 --> 13:46.491 If it's not okay, I'll turn it off." 13:46.593 --> 13:49.093 and they go, "oh, no. Yeah, would you turn it off?" 13:49.196 --> 13:51.262 and he would... 13:52.265 --> 13:55.400 And then he would say, "now we can just see it. 13:55.502 --> 13:57.202 That's all it--you know, we're just seeing it. 13:57.304 --> 13:59.137 We're not recording." 13:59.239 --> 14:03.141 and maybe a week later, a couple days later, 14:03.243 --> 14:06.044 all of a sudden, there's the tape. 14:06.146 --> 14:07.979 He told you that you weren't recording this. 14:08.081 --> 14:10.548 He goes, "you think I really stopped it?" 14:10.650 --> 14:15.720 so he did it anyway, and he had tapes on everybody. 14:15.822 --> 14:20.124 Hefner taped everything in his bedroom, 14:20.227 --> 14:24.462 and many men and stars and athletes 14:24.564 --> 14:28.099 came into the bedroom and had sex with these girls. 14:28.201 --> 14:32.036 Most of the time, hefner never participated. 14:32.138 --> 14:33.738 He just watched. 14:33.840 --> 14:36.140 He was a voyeur. 14:36.243 --> 14:37.809 He would stage them. 14:37.911 --> 14:41.112 He thought of himself as a film director. 14:41.214 --> 14:43.715 He didn't want to be on the tapes. 14:43.817 --> 14:47.252 He wanted these girls and the stars. 14:47.354 --> 14:49.854 But many of the girls were devastated 14:49.956 --> 14:52.423 after what they were expected to do, 14:52.525 --> 14:54.425 what they were forced to do. 14:54.527 --> 14:57.962 Well, can you imagine after he had all these tapes 14:58.064 --> 15:02.267 of you having sex with different girls, 15:02.369 --> 15:06.137 what power you had over these men? 15:06.239 --> 15:09.240 These are some, uh, notes I took 15:09.342 --> 15:14.545 around the time I worked for playboy, and, um, 15:14.648 --> 15:16.814 the first one-- 15:16.917 --> 15:18.449 the tony curtis incident 15:18.551 --> 15:22.520 about tapes and lawyers storming the mansion. 15:22.622 --> 15:25.056 Tony was a regular at the mansion, 15:25.158 --> 15:28.760 and he went with several playmates. 15:28.862 --> 15:32.497 Tony was upset and maybe didn't realize 15:32.599 --> 15:38.803 that hef was filming... The--the orgy. 15:38.905 --> 15:40.238 So his attorneys-- 15:40.340 --> 15:44.575 they were very upset that tony had been filmed. 15:44.678 --> 15:46.177 They wanted them. 15:46.279 --> 15:51.916 Hefner kept these tapes in a tape library. 15:52.018 --> 15:56.454 The librarian's office was down the hall from the bedroom. 15:56.556 --> 16:02.527 That was off-limits to anybody except hef and mary o'connor. 16:02.629 --> 16:05.363 If you were caught going near it 16:05.465 --> 16:09.801 or talking to the librarian, you would be terminated. 16:09.903 --> 16:14.672 People around the world read "playboy" magazine. 16:14.774 --> 16:19.344 Imagine this was nirvana for men, 16:19.446 --> 16:22.246 that you could have sex with all these women, 16:22.349 --> 16:24.816 and you weren't gonna have to pay for it. 16:24.918 --> 16:28.219 We didn't know about the emotional expense 16:28.321 --> 16:31.356 that these women would suffer, 16:31.458 --> 16:34.459 and that was a tragedy. 16:36.763 --> 16:38.296 в™Єв™Єв™Є 16:38.398 --> 16:42.667 I have a degree in journalism, but I used it very little. 16:42.769 --> 16:45.737 But I still have that instinct. 16:45.839 --> 16:50.241 So then December 2014, that story about paige young came out 16:50.343 --> 16:52.677 in the "daily mail." 16:52.779 --> 16:56.080 they got a tip on--on paige that she was someone who had 16:56.182 --> 17:01.452 been witnessed as being involved with bill cosby. 17:01.554 --> 17:07.358 I knew from the article that a definite connection 17:07.460 --> 17:14.465 wasn't made between paige's suicide and bill cosby. 17:14.567 --> 17:16.000 в™Єв™Єв™Є 17:16.102 --> 17:20.605 so I was trying to find out where she met bill cosby, 17:20.707 --> 17:26.444 and I found richard sample, a fellow artist 17:26.546 --> 17:30.148 who saw her several times at the playboy club. 17:30.250 --> 17:35.386 He said that paige had told him that bill cosby 17:35.488 --> 17:38.056 was always trying to put the make on her 17:38.158 --> 17:42.727 and that she had no interest in him whatsoever. 17:42.829 --> 17:44.862 Then he said that one time 17:44.964 --> 17:46.931 that he picked her up from the playboy club, 17:47.033 --> 17:52.437 he saw bill cosby acting angry towards her, 17:52.539 --> 17:56.774 that she had rebuffed yet another one of his attempts 17:56.876 --> 17:59.077 to get with her. 17:59.179 --> 18:02.947 Breaking news tonight. He is known as america's dad, 18:03.049 --> 18:05.716 but comedian bill cosby now the target 18:05.819 --> 18:09.053 of an lapd police investigation 18:09.155 --> 18:13.291 for sex molestation of a then-teen girl. 18:13.393 --> 18:14.425 в™Єв™Єв™Є 18:14.527 --> 18:16.727 when the whole cosby story broke, 18:16.830 --> 18:21.532 I was like, oh, man, none of that was a surprise. 18:21.634 --> 18:26.003 You know, I was there. I saw--I know what he did. 18:26.106 --> 18:29.107 Everybody that worked at the mansion knew 18:29.209 --> 18:33.678 that he was basically... A predator. 18:33.780 --> 18:38.950 I was a member of hugh hefner's executive protection team 18:39.052 --> 18:42.520 during 1980 and 1981. 18:42.622 --> 18:44.455 When you're the primary bodyguard 18:44.557 --> 18:46.424 for somebody like hef, 18:46.526 --> 18:50.495 you're not only expected to protect them from physical harm, 18:50.597 --> 18:53.664 you're also expected to protect them from anything 18:53.766 --> 18:56.601 that would tarnish their reputation. 18:56.703 --> 19:01.772 But at the mansion, it was the wild west back then. 19:01.875 --> 19:05.109 There was rampant sexual exploitation. 19:05.211 --> 19:09.981 Bill cosby was up there three to four times a week. 19:10.083 --> 19:13.417 He wasn't there to eat lunch. 19:13.520 --> 19:16.921 So a number of the allegations against bill cosby 19:17.023 --> 19:20.625 have involved stories that took place at the playboy mansion. 19:20.727 --> 19:24.862 He and hugh hefner were very close friends. 19:24.964 --> 19:28.399 I heard many stories about bill cosby 19:28.501 --> 19:32.770 from the '60s all the way up to 2008. 19:32.872 --> 19:38.142 In 1974, bill cosby had carte blanche to the mansion, 19:38.244 --> 19:41.045 and he drove up there in a limousine, 19:41.147 --> 19:44.782 and he had this young girl, 15-year-old girl, judith huth. 19:44.884 --> 19:47.285 He brought her up to the mansion. She had cocktails. 19:47.387 --> 19:48.619 He drugged her. 19:48.721 --> 19:53.391 She was sexually assaulted at 15 years old. 19:54.694 --> 20:00.097 в™Єв™Єв™Є 20:00.200 --> 20:03.467 [cheers and applause, playful shouting] 20:03.570 --> 20:07.138 cosby was up there a lot. He stayed there a lot. Um... 20:07.240 --> 20:10.541 He would come and stay for a couple days at a time. 20:10.643 --> 20:12.977 It's just down the hall, room two. 20:13.079 --> 20:15.079 You know, he's funny. He was a funny man, 20:15.181 --> 20:16.881 but he was an arrogant man. 20:16.983 --> 20:21.419 I didn't know what was going on. Did hef know? 20:21.521 --> 20:24.956 I think he did. How could anything be slipped 20:25.058 --> 20:27.692 under anyone's nose in that house? 20:27.794 --> 20:31.395 Cameras were everywhere. He had to have known. 20:31.497 --> 20:33.364 в™Єв™Єв™Є 20:33.466 --> 20:37.501 but cosby was his go-to celebrity at the jazz festival, 20:37.604 --> 20:40.137 at the tennis tournament. 20:40.240 --> 20:41.906 [laughter] 20:42.008 --> 20:44.775 [cheers and applause] 20:44.877 --> 20:46.811 it was cosby, this-- the funny man that-- 20:46.913 --> 20:49.046 that they did these things for hef, 20:49.148 --> 20:55.186 and because of that, he was allowing the women to be used. 20:55.288 --> 21:01.092 I know that bill cosby knew better. 21:01.194 --> 21:03.761 I don't believe bill cosby cared. 21:03.863 --> 21:06.664 I knew him before I did "playboy." 21:06.766 --> 21:10.835 someone had taken my headshot and given it to bill cosby, 21:10.937 --> 21:13.604 and I fly off and I meet him, and I end up 21:13.706 --> 21:17.975 in this underage--what I thought was a relationship. 21:18.077 --> 21:19.410 And I'm a minor. 21:19.512 --> 21:22.613 So this "relationship" goes on 21:22.715 --> 21:24.749 for maybe a year and a half or so. 21:24.851 --> 21:26.884 I'm not even 16. 21:26.986 --> 21:29.720 I may have turned 16, but I don't even drive yet. 21:29.822 --> 21:32.490 I'm a baby. 21:32.592 --> 21:35.526 And I have no one to turn to over this. 21:35.628 --> 21:37.194 So how this all ends is 21:37.297 --> 21:40.898 I end up in a drug and alcohol facility in 1982, 21:41.000 --> 21:42.633 and I remember cosby calling me on the payphone 21:42.735 --> 21:44.435 and him saying to me, 21:44.537 --> 21:48.939 "you know, you're not much fun when you're not drunk." 21:49.042 --> 21:51.876 treatment saved me. 21:51.978 --> 21:54.645 в™Єв™Єв™Є 21:54.747 --> 21:59.417 in 2008, bill cosby brought this young woman, chloe goins, 21:59.519 --> 22:01.419 up to the mansion to go to a party. 22:01.521 --> 22:06.724 She alleges that he gave her a drink, and she was drugged 22:06.826 --> 22:09.126 and was very, very woozy, could hardly stand up. 22:09.228 --> 22:12.363 So hefner himself told everybody, 22:12.465 --> 22:15.433 "put her to bed," and the next thing you know, 22:15.535 --> 22:18.502 she was assaulted by bill cosby. 22:18.604 --> 22:22.907 We have a sisterhood of victims of bill cosby, 22:23.009 --> 22:26.310 and he did some terrible things to these girls. 22:26.412 --> 22:30.114 I got off easy compared to some of these girls. 22:31.884 --> 22:34.018 в™Єв™Єв™Є 22:34.120 --> 22:35.820 this is an article from the "daily mail" 22:35.922 --> 22:39.056 about my friend paige young 22:39.158 --> 22:43.260 and her relationship with, uh, bill cosby. 22:43.363 --> 22:44.562 Let me read you just a little bit 22:44.664 --> 22:46.497 about what they wrote about paige. 22:46.599 --> 22:50.735 "paige was into her drugs, and bill wanted to get her some. 22:50.837 --> 22:53.304 She was along on the trip like his pet dog. 22:53.406 --> 22:55.339 She was a very subdued person." 22:55.441 --> 23:00.378 well, when I knew her, paige was into clean living. 23:00.480 --> 23:06.016 I think more likely is that bill drugged her. 23:06.119 --> 23:07.518 A direct connection has not been made 23:07.620 --> 23:10.788 between bill cosby and paige young's suicide. 23:10.890 --> 23:15.059 I did find a man who was friends with paige 23:15.161 --> 23:16.494 during that same time, 23:16.596 --> 23:18.629 and one of the times they spent together, 23:18.731 --> 23:22.366 paige said, "bill cosby raped me." 23:22.468 --> 23:26.537 and I asked, "did she say that he had drugged her as well?" 23:26.639 --> 23:28.639 and she implied it by saying, 23:28.741 --> 23:33.344 "well, I came to and realized I had been raped." 23:33.446 --> 23:37.047 we still don't know why paige killed herself. 23:37.150 --> 23:40.451 But it seems like this is one piece of the puzzle. 23:40.553 --> 23:45.756 I knew bill in '72 when I worked as a bunny. 23:45.858 --> 23:49.660 It wasn't until the situation in '79 in chicago 23:49.762 --> 23:54.098 that he drugged and raped me. 23:56.536 --> 23:58.235 [sighs] 23:58.337 --> 24:00.971 voilГ ! Here we are. Wow. 24:01.073 --> 24:03.407 This is a picture of bill cosby 24:03.509 --> 24:05.976 the day before he drugged and raped me, 24:06.078 --> 24:09.747 and this is the original card that he sent me 24:09.849 --> 24:12.116 the following day after he raped me 24:12.218 --> 24:14.685 when he sent me a 4-foot ficus tree, and it says, 24:14.787 --> 24:17.421 "stay healthy mentally. Stay in charge of yourself. 24:17.523 --> 24:19.523 Bill cosby." 24:19.625 --> 24:21.992 how crazy was that? 24:24.163 --> 24:25.663 It--it's a reminder. 24:25.765 --> 24:29.033 It's a reminder of how far I've come from that. 24:29.135 --> 24:30.367 So I keep it. 24:30.470 --> 24:34.071 I knew bill cosby for six years. 24:34.173 --> 24:37.174 He was a friend. Nothing more but a friend 24:37.276 --> 24:40.211 that I would see on the playboy circuit. 24:40.313 --> 24:43.614 Nine months or so after I had gotten to chicago 24:43.716 --> 24:44.715 as the bunny mother, 24:44.817 --> 24:48.285 uh, bill cosby was doing an interview 24:48.387 --> 24:50.521 in the playmate lunchroom. 24:50.623 --> 24:52.957 Later that day, he called me, and he said, 24:53.059 --> 24:55.226 "listen, you want to go out to dinner tomorrow night?" 24:55.328 --> 24:57.194 I said, "sure." 24:57.296 --> 24:59.263 he says, "well, meet me at the whitehall hotel, 24:59.365 --> 25:01.532 and we'll go out to dinner." I said, "sure." 25:01.634 --> 25:04.134 I didn't think anything of it 'cause I knew this person. 25:04.237 --> 25:08.005 So the next night, I met him at 7:00, 25:08.107 --> 25:09.440 and he was in the penthouse. 25:09.542 --> 25:11.075 So he said to me, "well, come on up, 25:11.177 --> 25:13.978 and we'll have a drink before we go to dinner." 25:14.080 --> 25:18.482 I went upstairs, and he says, "what would you like to drink?" 25:18.584 --> 25:21.752 so I said, "I'll take a grand marnier." 25:21.854 --> 25:23.988 and he gave me the glass. I took two sips, 25:24.090 --> 25:25.589 and that's the last thing I remember 25:25.691 --> 25:28.526 until 4:00 the next morning. 25:28.628 --> 25:31.428 And I woke up in bed naked, 25:31.531 --> 25:34.331 and I looked to my left, and there he was naked, 25:34.433 --> 25:38.669 sleeping next to me, and I was in a panic. 25:38.771 --> 25:41.906 And I slivered out of the bed 25:42.008 --> 25:45.342 to try to collect my clothes that were all over the floor, 25:45.444 --> 25:50.180 and I had blood coming down my leg 'cause he sodomized me. 25:50.283 --> 25:53.083 And blood was dripping on the floor. 25:53.185 --> 25:57.087 And, um... [voice breaking] I put my clothes on, 25:57.189 --> 25:58.556 but there was a lot of blood. 25:58.658 --> 26:03.093 в™Єв™Єв™Є 26:03.195 --> 26:05.029 it was a lot of blood. 26:05.131 --> 26:08.732 I dripped it all the way out in the lobby in the hotel. 26:08.834 --> 26:12.903 [sobbing] 26:13.005 --> 26:14.738 [sniffles] 26:16.475 --> 26:20.210 and I went home in the shower, and I just screamed. 26:20.313 --> 26:22.446 I was in the shower for a good hour. 26:22.548 --> 26:25.849 в™Єв™Єв™Є 26:25.952 --> 26:27.618 and I knew I had to go to work 26:27.720 --> 26:31.488 because I had nobody to cover me, and I went to work. 26:31.591 --> 26:34.592 And about 11:00 in the morning, he calls my office. 26:34.694 --> 26:36.894 How he got that private line, I don't know. 26:36.996 --> 26:38.495 It was a private line. [sniffles] 26:38.598 --> 26:41.365 and he says, "why did you leave?" 26:41.467 --> 26:43.767 and I was like, "are you kidding me?" 26:43.869 --> 26:46.503 "why did you leave?" 26:46.606 --> 26:48.439 and I said, "listen, I can't talk to you now. 26:48.541 --> 26:51.709 I'm getting the girls on the floor. I'm doing my work." 26:51.811 --> 26:58.515 I hung up the phone, and I was in complete, total shock. 26:58.618 --> 27:04.788 That next day I called my boss, and I told her that he raped me 27:04.890 --> 27:08.993 and he drugged me, and her reply was, 27:09.095 --> 27:12.029 "that's hefner's best friend. 27:12.131 --> 27:17.034 I suggest you shut your mouth if you want to keep your job." 27:17.136 --> 27:18.802 and for days on end, 27:18.904 --> 27:22.406 cosby continued to call and ask me out, 27:22.508 --> 27:24.041 and I refused to go out with him. 27:24.143 --> 27:27.277 I couldn't go to hefner because there were a lot 27:27.380 --> 27:31.448 of very strange things happening up at the mansion. 27:31.550 --> 27:33.717 How am I gonna go to him? 27:33.819 --> 27:35.486 Who's gonna listen to me? 27:35.588 --> 27:38.389 I knew nothing would have changed. 27:38.491 --> 27:40.491 I knew he wouldn't have been held accountable. 27:40.593 --> 27:43.227 It was bill cosby. 27:43.329 --> 27:46.263 He was gonna buy nbc studios. 27:46.365 --> 27:49.700 Who's gonna listen to me? How do I prove it? 27:49.802 --> 27:52.102 I had no avenue to go down. 27:52.204 --> 27:56.940 There were other celebrities and vips 27:57.043 --> 27:59.176 that were at the, uh, l.A. Mansion 27:59.278 --> 28:01.445 that would definitely drug 28:01.547 --> 28:04.415 and sexually assault young women. 28:04.517 --> 28:06.984 Roman polanski, of course, who we know 28:07.086 --> 28:10.054 to be someone who fled the country 28:10.156 --> 28:12.956 after raping a very young girl, allegedly, right, 28:13.059 --> 28:14.224 is somebody who's a fixture 28:14.326 --> 28:16.026 at the playboy mansion at one point. 28:16.128 --> 28:19.563 So what kind of people we choose to surround ourselves with 28:19.665 --> 28:21.799 says something about who we are. 28:27.106 --> 28:29.606 My name's charlotte lewis, 28:29.709 --> 28:35.913 and I did the cover of "playboy" in 1994, June. 28:36.015 --> 28:37.514 I suddenly found out how close 28:37.616 --> 28:41.552 roman polanski and hugh hefner really were, 28:41.654 --> 28:44.955 and I did find that a bit disturbing. 28:45.057 --> 28:51.428 In 1977, polanski was convicted of rape of a minor, 28:51.530 --> 28:54.298 and the minor was 13 years old. 28:54.400 --> 28:57.367 The girl was two weeks short of 14. 28:57.470 --> 29:02.406 But if you have seen her, uh, sitting here next to me, 29:02.508 --> 29:05.976 you wouldn't be particularly shocked by it. 29:06.078 --> 29:08.212 As a matter of fact, you would find it completely normal. 29:08.314 --> 29:10.114 But I'd be particularly concerned to find out 29:10.216 --> 29:12.449 how old she was, and you actually did know. 29:12.551 --> 29:14.084 -You actually did know. -Yeah, I knew. I knew. 29:14.186 --> 29:15.652 I knew she was 14 because she was talking 29:15.755 --> 29:17.254 about her birthday before that. 29:17.356 --> 29:19.990 Then I met him five, five and a half years later, 29:20.092 --> 29:22.559 six years later. 29:22.661 --> 29:27.898 I was, uh, raped by roman polanski when I was 16. 29:28.000 --> 29:30.000 It took a long time for me to realize 29:30.102 --> 29:33.737 that what had happened to me wasn't my fault, 29:33.839 --> 29:36.640 because I always thought it was my fault. 29:36.742 --> 29:38.308 You don't realize at the time when something's-- 29:38.410 --> 29:40.177 when you're very young, 29:40.279 --> 29:44.314 that what's happened is-- is illegal or--or wrong. 29:44.416 --> 29:46.016 You know it's wrong 'cause it doesn't feel right. 29:46.118 --> 29:51.188 There are some men that obviously, of a generation, 29:51.290 --> 29:56.827 yes, feel that there is some...Entitlement 29:56.929 --> 30:01.498 and that women are just the sex, you know, objects. 30:01.600 --> 30:03.600 It's about the control, really, isn't it? 30:03.702 --> 30:06.837 It's amazing there is still some kind of protection 30:06.939 --> 30:08.972 for these--these boys, these men, 30:09.074 --> 30:14.411 these--these debauched human beings, you know? 30:14.513 --> 30:17.981 I would be up at the game house with hef a lot, 30:18.083 --> 30:20.918 and the conversations could get very heavy, 30:21.020 --> 30:24.288 and--and roman polanski was one of the stories, 30:24.390 --> 30:26.557 and I would listen to them talk. 30:26.659 --> 30:30.761 It was, "gah, he got caught!" 30:30.863 --> 30:33.096 you know, or "the schmo-- he got caught," 30:33.199 --> 30:35.632 like it was okay to be with a young girl. 30:35.734 --> 30:37.367 Just don't get caught. 30:37.469 --> 30:42.206 They were just relieved that they hadn't gotten caught, 30:42.308 --> 30:44.308 but I don't believe it stopped with that. 30:44.410 --> 30:47.244 в™Єв™Єв™Є 30:47.346 --> 30:50.447 the idea of underage sex 30:50.549 --> 30:52.282 was not really taken very, very seriously. 30:52.384 --> 30:56.420 And indeed, hefner's interest in young girls 30:56.522 --> 30:59.389 had been evident throughout his adult life, 30:59.491 --> 31:03.060 epitomized by the fact that, um, he seduced one of the girls 31:03.162 --> 31:06.663 that had been at his daughter's 16th birthday party. 31:06.765 --> 31:11.134 10 of her school friends were invited, 31:11.237 --> 31:12.936 and a few days after that, 31:13.038 --> 31:15.239 one of the girls who'd been at the party 31:15.341 --> 31:18.375 called hefner and said she would like to meet him. 31:18.477 --> 31:21.011 She did come and see him, and the inevitable happened. 31:21.113 --> 31:22.779 в™Єв™Єв™Є 31:22.882 --> 31:27.284 why has it taken till today for it to be believed 31:27.386 --> 31:30.888 that oh, my god, you know, these things do happen to girls? 31:30.990 --> 31:35.058 Yeah, 50-year-old men do rape girls. 31:35.160 --> 31:38.128 What we're dealing with is a very powerful team 31:38.230 --> 31:42.933 of close friends who stick together, 31:43.035 --> 31:46.036 men defending their guy. 31:46.138 --> 31:50.674 Hold each individual man responsible, 31:50.776 --> 31:52.876 because what predator is not going to go 31:52.978 --> 31:55.045 to the playboy mansion? 31:55.147 --> 31:58.282 It's locked. It's secure. 31:58.384 --> 32:00.417 All the cookies are in the jar, 32:00.519 --> 32:03.020 and it's okay. No one judges. 32:03.122 --> 32:06.390 Jim brown, the football player, 32:06.492 --> 32:09.760 is a known fixture at the playboy mansion, 32:09.862 --> 32:11.595 and there have been a number of stories, um, 32:11.697 --> 32:13.530 corroborated by women 32:13.632 --> 32:15.766 who claimed that they were sexually assaulted 32:15.868 --> 32:19.469 by jim brown at the playboy mansion. 32:19.571 --> 32:21.872 I was at the mansion all the time. 32:21.974 --> 32:23.674 [chuckles] it was a ball. 32:23.776 --> 32:27.711 There were new girls coming in from all over the country, 32:27.813 --> 32:31.882 and, uh, anything was okay between consenting partners. 32:31.984 --> 32:34.785 [chuckles] 32:34.887 --> 32:38.989 jim brown did come up and have sex at the mansion, 32:39.091 --> 32:42.225 and he always abused different playmates. 32:42.328 --> 32:44.061 в™Єв™Єв™Є 32:44.163 --> 32:48.065 I observed it. Many people witnessed it. 32:48.167 --> 32:54.171 Hef did tell me that jim brown brutalized women, yeah. 32:54.273 --> 32:56.506 But why would he keep letting him come up? 32:56.608 --> 33:00.010 You know, what's with that? Because he was a celebrity? 33:00.112 --> 33:03.113 The first time I saw the abuse with jim brown 33:03.215 --> 33:04.681 was in the grand hall, they called it. 33:04.783 --> 33:06.149 There--there was a very big party. 33:06.251 --> 33:09.286 I think it was the new year's party. 33:09.388 --> 33:11.655 All: 3...2...! 33:11.757 --> 33:14.725 There was one girl. I don't remember her name, 33:14.827 --> 33:16.493 but she was the black girl 33:16.595 --> 33:18.595 that I remember being at the mansion, 33:18.697 --> 33:22.966 and jim brown turned her upside down and held her by her heels-- 33:23.068 --> 33:25.869 this was right in front of me-- and shook her violently-- 33:25.971 --> 33:30.540 violently until her bosom fell out of her bra, 33:30.642 --> 33:33.677 and then flipped her back up, and she's hanging out. 33:33.779 --> 33:37.014 I could see it on her face, and I thought, oh, my god. 33:39.051 --> 33:43.920 And then there was the time when he was in the grotto. 33:44.023 --> 33:46.857 In the shower room, there was an apparatus 33:46.959 --> 33:49.793 that all the men would go in and use. 33:49.895 --> 33:54.297 Hefner had this chair in the back house that 33:54.400 --> 33:56.700 was very odd-shaped, 33:56.802 --> 33:58.335 and looking at it, thinking, what is this? 33:58.437 --> 34:00.270 And he says, "well, that's the sex chair." 34:00.372 --> 34:04.808 it was this chair with a dildo attached to it. 34:04.910 --> 34:09.146 That night, I was in the garden, and I heard the screaming, 34:09.248 --> 34:11.748 and stefan was there, too. 34:11.850 --> 34:17.087 We peeked in there, and we saw jim just going bananas, 34:17.189 --> 34:20.624 bananas, violently on this girl. 34:20.726 --> 34:23.260 She was one of the african american women 34:23.362 --> 34:27.898 who came up to the mansion, and he put her on the sex chair. 34:28.000 --> 34:34.738 I could see him assaulting this woman and beating her. 34:34.840 --> 34:39.042 She was screaming in pain, begging him to stop. 34:39.144 --> 34:41.111 I just--I was shocked. 34:42.848 --> 34:46.116 When he was finished, I had to help her, 34:46.218 --> 34:48.952 and I took her to the front of the mansion 34:49.054 --> 34:56.827 and had one of hefner's drivers take her to the hospital. 34:56.929 --> 35:00.197 I never saw her again there. 35:00.299 --> 35:01.798 в™Єв™Єв™Є 35:01.900 --> 35:05.869 after that, hefner allowed jim back on the property 35:05.971 --> 35:10.073 where he would brutalize these girls. 35:10.175 --> 35:12.342 He cracked ribs, he dislocated jaws, 35:12.444 --> 35:15.078 but nobody was gonna come forward, 35:15.180 --> 35:21.685 because nobody wanted hefner to come after you, or jim brown. 35:21.787 --> 35:26.556 It bothered me. What was I gonna do about it? 35:26.658 --> 35:28.492 Get fired? 35:28.594 --> 35:33.964 I had no power. I was an employee. 35:34.066 --> 35:37.033 I don't know the rules for movie stars 35:37.136 --> 35:39.769 and hefner at the mansion. 35:39.872 --> 35:42.939 It seemed that this was natural, 35:43.041 --> 35:47.711 that this is what they expected hefner to allow them to do. 35:47.813 --> 35:50.580 Jim brown, like bill cosby, 35:50.682 --> 35:55.152 is not the only man with a history of accusations 35:55.254 --> 35:57.754 of predatory behavior that spent time at the playboy mansion. 35:57.856 --> 36:03.693 Systemic racism makes matters of rape 36:03.795 --> 36:05.128 infinitely more complicated. 36:05.230 --> 36:08.732 We know that there are a lot of white men 36:08.834 --> 36:10.634 that were going to the playboy mansion 36:10.736 --> 36:12.269 that are predators, 36:12.371 --> 36:16.940 but it's easier to hold black male predators accountable 36:17.042 --> 36:19.209 for a lot of reasons. 36:19.311 --> 36:23.246 It's easier to say "hey, look, this black guy is a rapist." 36:23.348 --> 36:25.482 we're comfortable with that. 36:25.584 --> 36:28.718 Black men do not typically have 36:28.820 --> 36:32.455 the unspoken racial solidarity in society 36:32.558 --> 36:34.357 of white men around them 36:34.459 --> 36:37.794 in deference of people of other races and of women. 36:37.896 --> 36:40.530 [cheers and applause] 36:40.632 --> 36:45.235 but hugh hefner-- what's his role in this? 36:45.337 --> 36:48.305 They were predators. They were power predators. 36:48.407 --> 36:51.675 But who set this ballroom up? 36:51.777 --> 36:53.610 He had the drugs. He had the liquor. 36:53.712 --> 36:57.814 He had the women. He had everything at his disposal. 36:57.916 --> 37:01.051 в™Єв™Єв™Є 37:01.153 --> 37:05.889 out a little bit more about paige, 37:05.991 --> 37:09.292 it was like solving the mystery of a person. 37:09.394 --> 37:14.798 In my interview with richard, paige's boyfriend, 37:14.900 --> 37:18.969 richard said hefner ruined a lot of good women. 37:19.071 --> 37:21.805 After that, I've read a few excerpts 37:21.907 --> 37:25.609 from what the scene was like there during that era, 37:25.711 --> 37:29.312 and it wasn't a very pretty picture. 37:29.414 --> 37:33.450 A woman they call "bunny b.J." 37:33.552 --> 37:36.052 she was a bunny at the century city club, 37:36.154 --> 37:39.823 and she hung out on that scene in, like, '73, '74, 37:39.925 --> 37:41.524 same era as paige, 37:41.627 --> 37:46.096 and she just wrote about her experience at the mansion. 37:46.198 --> 37:50.800 "I began to realize, as far as playboy was concerned, 37:50.902 --> 37:53.003 I was completely expendable. 37:53.105 --> 37:56.573 No one cared what kind of a person I was, 37:56.675 --> 37:58.508 what thoughts I had. 37:58.610 --> 38:00.176 I could have been a doll. 38:00.279 --> 38:02.412 I tried suicide a couple of times. 38:02.514 --> 38:06.116 To me, there was no purpose to the kind of life I was leading. 38:06.218 --> 38:08.418 'playboy' magazine should have a warning on it 38:08.520 --> 38:11.254 like cigarette advertising. 38:11.356 --> 38:15.458 'this philosophy can be hazardous to your health.'" 38:15.560 --> 38:17.127 в™Єв™Єв™Є 38:17.229 --> 38:19.696 the suicide rate for playmates is significantly higher 38:19.798 --> 38:22.666 than the rate for american women. 38:22.768 --> 38:27.637 And so I think it's worth asking what is it about playboy that 38:27.739 --> 38:31.775 leads so many women that have graced its pages to tragedy? 38:31.877 --> 38:34.678 в™Єв™Єв™Є 38:34.780 --> 38:37.814 after the drugging and rape of bill cosby, 38:37.916 --> 38:40.216 I didn't know how to process it. 38:40.319 --> 38:44.754 I was never offered therapy. So I started cutting myself-- 38:44.856 --> 38:50.126 cutting my arms, cutting my legs. 38:50.228 --> 38:52.495 It's a weird thing that happens when you cut yourself. 38:52.597 --> 38:54.130 It's kind of like a release, 38:54.232 --> 39:01.371 and it got so bad that I have several failed suicide attempts. 39:01.473 --> 39:04.374 And the last one, I ended up in 39:04.476 --> 39:08.278 hackensack university hospital for 17 days. 39:08.380 --> 39:09.779 They didn't think I was gonna make it. 39:09.881 --> 39:11.348 I didn't think I was gonna make it. 39:11.450 --> 39:14.484 в™Єв™Єв™Є 39:14.586 --> 39:17.987 the playboy years were some pretty tough years. 39:18.090 --> 39:21.458 I didn't feel of value. 39:21.560 --> 39:25.962 So I can see how girls that have lived that life 39:26.064 --> 39:29.299 have taken their own life. 39:29.401 --> 39:34.938 I so wish that I had been there to talk to them. 39:35.040 --> 39:39.008 I would have told them, "stay. 39:39.111 --> 39:41.277 Just stay." 39:41.380 --> 39:42.445 в™Єв™Єв™Є 39:42.547 --> 39:44.347 paige wanted to get her message out 39:44.449 --> 39:47.751 that these men were predatory, 39:47.853 --> 39:49.619 and she thought the only way that anybody 39:49.721 --> 39:53.223 was going to pay attention to her was if she killed herself. 39:53.325 --> 39:55.492 The message got squashed. 39:55.594 --> 40:00.330 It was so sad that paige went to all this trouble 40:00.432 --> 40:04.701 to leave a message, and no one cared. 40:04.803 --> 40:07.804 This film that you're doing right now, this is going to be 40:07.906 --> 40:12.308 when paige finally gets her side of the story, 40:12.411 --> 40:15.044 where she gets to speak for herself. 41:02.127 --> 41:04.594 There are so many men in hef's inner circle 41:04.696 --> 41:07.831 who were part of this underground system, 41:07.933 --> 41:09.499 the shadow mansions. 41:09.601 --> 41:11.534 These men who were out there recruiting, 41:11.636 --> 41:14.137 they would put ads out-- "want to be a playmate?" 41:14.239 --> 41:17.173 the competition is so stiff to be a playmate. 41:17.275 --> 41:19.943 So that handful makes it. 41:20.045 --> 41:22.045 The rest slip through the cracks. 41:22.147 --> 41:25.915 I would see these girls who are clearly drugged 41:26.017 --> 41:27.517 and not coherent. 41:27.619 --> 41:30.587 They would be, you know, injecting them with something. 41:30.689 --> 41:32.388 Oh, I think hef knew 41:32.491 --> 41:34.157 definitely what was going on at the parties. 41:34.259 --> 41:37.560 Many women came forward finally, 41:37.662 --> 41:41.197 and why these girls were so scared is really coming out.52106

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