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We've had to cope with radical measures
for two years now.
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They have limited our freedom drastically.
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We've been going
from lockdown to lockdown.
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It's supposedly necessary
to protect public heath...
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against an extremely dangerous virus,
but is this actually true?
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Is coronavirus really as dangerous
as it is made out to be?
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Are the measures really effective?
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Is vaccinating the entire population
wise or are there also risks involved?
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If the measures don't contribute
to public health...
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why are they being taken anyway?
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The side effects are very rare
and it's very effective.
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The Netherlands is going into lockdown.
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The current mass vaccination against
SARS-CoV-2 is a colossal mistake.
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If I disclose what I know,
it will cost me everything.
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I won't be able to continue my research,
I'll get no more grants. I'll be finished.
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I can't look myself in the mirror
if I don't come forward with what I know.
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I can't live with that.
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They say: 'Life is what happens to you
while you're busy making other plans.'
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In my case that's definitely true...
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because a few years ago
I had no plans to go into politics.
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But I was so concerned about the
developments taking place around me...
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that I felt
I had to personally take action.
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The House of Representatives
is the place to be in Dutch politics.
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The last few years, I've seen
that so many lies are being told...
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that great injustice is being done,
and people are being affected deeply.
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They come up to me
with tears in their eyes.
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Fundamental rights are being illegally
curbed, people robbed of their freedom.
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People are losing everything
they worked for.
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They are uncertain about their future.
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That's what motivates me the most
to continue that battle every day again.
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On 1 July 2021,
the then Minister of Health told me...
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that raising doubts about vaccinations
as a way out of the crisis...
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would be a danger to public health.
That's what he literally said.
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While my opinion that a vaccine
would never get us out of the crisis...
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was not only my opinion,
but also that of many professors...
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scientists and other experts.
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People who are much more qualified
than the Minister of Health...
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and are specialised in relevant fields,
like virology or immunology.
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It's a disgrace to call the opinions
prevalent among so many experts...
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a danger to public health.
An apology would therefore be in order.
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In the House of Representatives
I often feel like a voice in the wilderness.
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Because during debates about,
for example, the coronavirus policy...
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it seems like I'm the only one asking
the questions most Dutch people have.
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The other Members of Parliament
ignore these questions.
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All they talk about is the tone
and the form.
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They think certain things
shouldn't be said, or said differently.
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For the first time since WWII
we have a government...
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that is drafting legislation
that creates a state of apartheid.
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One that excludes people from society.
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And it's vital not to give in to tyranny.
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And we won't give in to tyranny.
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If regulations are created that discriminate
against entire population groups...
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I urge the population not to obey.
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Obeying them is a greater crime
than disobeying them.
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The atrocities that were inflicted
on the Jews during WWII...
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were committed by people
that were obedient, not disobedient.
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Thank you. Mr van Meijeren,
as chair I would like to say something.
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You use big words
and compare things to WWII again.
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I must say that I find that inappropriate.
My other colleagues have something...
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What eventually triggered me...
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to expose the truth to the public
about the lies that were being told...
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was when I noticed that opinions
not shared by the government...
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were being censored on a large scale.
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Before every debate about coronavirus
we would receive an extensive letter.
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A 20- to 40-page letter with appendices
referring to kinds of expert reports.
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That's all that most parliamentarians
have to work with.
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It's important to realise that the OMT,
the Outbreak Management Team...
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is part of the RIVM, which falls under
the purview of the Ministry of Health.
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So under no circumstance
is there real impartiality.
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And furthermore,
there are countless experts...
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doctors, virologists,
immunologists, scientists...
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and even Nobel Prize winners,
nationally and internationally...
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that have totally different opinions
based on solid arguments.
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Respected people who know
what they are talking about.
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Those opinions are not allowed to be
heard in the House or in the media.
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Those voices get demonised,
ridiculed and censored.
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In my opinion,
it is of the utmost importance...
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to have a balanced debate
where all the different opinions are heard.
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That's the foundation of a democracy.
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Conflicting opinions are needed
to reveal the truth.
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That's why I've decided to ask questions
based on the input and information...
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that I received
from all those other experts.
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A whole set of parliamentary questions
based on that information.
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To expose the controversies
and show that there are other opinions.
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It frustrates me that these questions
remain unanswered.
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We have appealed to the Ministry
to get those answers...
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but we're being completely ignored.
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The fundamental right to information
becomes meaningless this way.
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Because I can't do my job properly
if I don't get answers to questions.
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My most important job
is monitoring the government.
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The members of government
have to be able to be held accountable.
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And if this does not happen,
it leads to a situation...
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where a small group of people
have a great deal of power...
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but aren't held accountable.
That's a very dangerous combination.
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Last October I asked 60 parliamentary
questions about the coronavirus policy.
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The questions were about
the scientific foundation...
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the experimental nature
of the vaccines...
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and the long-term side effects
that have not been studied.
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But also about
the use of the QR code...
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and the social disruption
and polarisation that it has caused.
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As the Ministry has refused for months
to answer my questions...
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I started my own quest
in which I've spoken to many experts.
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Such as Geert vanden Bossche,
who has a PhD in virology.
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He has done scientific research
for many years for numerous companies...
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into the effects of vaccines.
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I've gained this experience
with real events...
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during the Ebola epidemic
a few years ago in West Africa.
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This felt like a calling to me...
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because this was
such an important phenomenon...
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that required expertise in virology,
immunology and vaccinology.
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When it became clear they wanted
to vaccinate people on a huge scale...
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I immediately started
analysing the situation.
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I tried several times
to discuss this with experts.
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I also talked to
endowed Professor Theo Schetters.
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He has a PhD in medicine and is an expert
on vaccination development.
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What is his opinion on the policy?
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I was surprised and astonished
when in March of last year....
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Minister de Jonge said that vaccinations
were the only way out of the crisis.
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That was strange because with a crisis
I would expect to have a meeting...
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to discuss how to deal with the crisis
and what the various options are.
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That discussion never took place.
And they only looked at vaccines.
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But a sickness comes with being sick.
That means it's too late to vaccinate.
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You would also expect that they
would look at ways to treat patients...
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or to prevent the sickness
after they are infected with coronavirus.
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Carla Peeters has a PhD in immunology.
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She worked for years for the RIVM
battling infectious diseases.
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How does she look at the vaccination
policy and the role of the RIVM?
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It's striking that politics has taken over
the role of medical science.
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That endangers public health.
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If politics takes over their role, then
what is the purpose of medical science?
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That's hard.
It's also reflected in the media.
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The media push certain studies
to the forefront...
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which makes you wonder:
Why are these in the media now?
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That's also striking.
I'm really concerned about that.
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The researchers
have the best intentions...
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but it raises questions about impartiality
and the transparency of matters...
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when you have a different opinion
and are in a position of dependency.
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There are two types of vaccines
being used in the Netherlands.
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The mRNA vaccines
made by Pfizer and Moderna...
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and the vector vaccines
made by AstraZeneca and Janssen.
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Can you tell me
what kind of vaccines they are...
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and how they're different
from the traditional vaccines?
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Traditional vaccines
make use of the protein itself...
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that you want to have
an immune response to.
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There are various ways to do this.
You can grow lots of the virus...
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containing that protein and deactivate it,
so the virus can't multiply.
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You can use that in a vaccine
and inject it to create an antibody response.
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The genetic vaccines
utilise the code for the protein.
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And then your body itself
has to produce that protein.
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And that's an option
that you should question.
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The cell synthesises the protein,
but for how long is the question.
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Which particular cells do this?
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And how long does
a synthesised protein stay in the body?
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This is the biggest problem
that's been insufficiently researched...
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during the various tests
that have taken place.
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It wasn't until after the approval
that we were able to determine...
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which cells in which organs
can synthesise this protein.
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And for how long this is expressed,
as we call it, in the body.
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And in which organs this is possible,
for example.
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And this is problematic
from a purely vaccinological perspective...
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because they actually want to prevent...
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showing the protein for a long period
to the immune system.
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Exposing the immune system
for a long time to a protein is a bad idea.
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To what degree have these vaccines
gone through the tests and trials...
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that apply to the other vaccines in the
government vaccination programme?
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These are different vaccines,
so you would expect other studies.
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The trial runs that have taken place
were much shorter than usual.
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Animal studies were conducted...
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but some of them took place later
or didn't take place at all.
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For example, when I asked where
the S protein goes when injected:
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Does it stay in the arm
or does it go to the organs?
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An experiment Pfizer had to do
at the request of Japan showed...
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that it can end up in the organs.
This wasn't made public.
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The public was told that it stays
in the arm and dissolves rapidly.
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It seems that the spike protein
was an unfortunate choice.
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The spike protein turned out to be
a biotoxin.
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That means when you have
active spike proteins...
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it activate all kinds of
unwanted processes in your own body.
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Especially when the spike protein
is produced in your body...
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it's not inactive,
it's biologically active.
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The possible consequences
are numerous.
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When spike proteins are produced
in large numbers in a cell....
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it's been proven that it interferes with
genetic processes in the cell's nucleus.
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They said that it could interfere
with DNA repair mechanisms.
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That's problematic, as DNA repair
is used to prevent mistakes in your DNA.
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That could cause tumour cells,
for example.
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This is a dangerous possibility
that hasn't been sufficiently researched.
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They've worked
with RNA gene therapy in the past...
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but never on this scale and it has
never been put on the market so fast.
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Pfizer is now being asked questions
by the medical community and scientists.
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It turns out that during the first 90 days
of the trial, people died...
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and suffered more severe side effects
than was made public.
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We're dealing with a new vaccine
that was developed in a short time...
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and released on the market
only conditionally.
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It was also made with a new technology
that could cause great complications.
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Are there any serious side effects
or is it really not that bad?
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With the genetic vaccines especially,
we're seeing a number of side effects...
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that occur at an alarming rate...
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like myocarditis,
an inflammation of the heart muscle.
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But also side effects, like the onset
of thrombosis in various organs.
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This can happen in various organs,
because we can't control...
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in which tissue
these proteins are expressed.
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We can't control
how long these proteins are expressed.
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The location and duration
are unknown factors.
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It's also very unpredictable
in whom these proteins are expressed.
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It's clear that some people
don't have any side effects at all...
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and for some people
they can even have fatal consequences.
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And that we now know with Moderna,
that people under the age of 40...
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have a bigger chance of getting
myocarditis than COVID-19.
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We know that some countries have
stopped using Moderna for that age group.
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But in the Netherlands
nothing has been changed yet.
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They even had campaigns called:
Dancing with Janssen.
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It's fun here. It feels like an event.
A warming-up for the summer festivals.
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There was a case where a young man
died after an mRNA vaccination.
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The autopsy showed
that he had damaged muscle cells...
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without an inflammation infiltrate.
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That indicates
that the muscle cell broke down by itself.
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And not because there had been
an inflammation around it.
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We're getting these kinds of signs
that make you realise:
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It's dangerous and the consequences
are unpredictable.
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And in the real world we're getting
indications that it's not all right.
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Official figures show that 85% of adults
have been fully vaccinated by now.
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The reality is totally different
than what was initially presented to us.
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How do you explain that?
-That already raises questions for me.
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How big is the crisis actually
in terms of the virus?
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If only 98.5% of the population
won't end up in hospital when infected...
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and only 0.3% ends up in intensive care,
you have to wonder...
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whether we even have
an epidemic crisis.
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The average age of people
who die due to coronavirus...
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is almost 80 for men
and 84 for women.
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That's higher than the average
life expectancy in the Netherlands.
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Is there even reason for concern?
-No, there isn't at all, in my opinion.
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I mentioned this in an interview,
and got my wrist slapped...
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that I don't see
the necessity for vaccinations...
235
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because you have to keep focused
on where the problem is.
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The problem lies with people over 60
with a high BMI and the elderly.
237
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Most people are much younger
than sixty.
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The government policy is focused on
vaccinating as many people as possible.
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Including healthy people
and even healthy children.
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What are your thoughts?
-With every medical procedure...
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you have to weigh the costs
against the benefits of the treatment.
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There are no benefits for healthy people
because they are healthy to begin with.
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Then only the costs remain
and that's the risk of side effects.
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That balance quickly moves
in the wrong direction.
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When you look at the age group
from five years old to twenty...
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no one in that group has died
due to coronavirus since the crisis began.
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So for that group
there aren't any benefits at all.
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The opinions in this class are mixed.
Not everyone wants to get a shot.
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NOS Stories investigated this.
250
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They asked a few thousand youngsters
if they wanted to be vaccinated.
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74% answered yes.
13% answered no.
252
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And 13% aren't sure.
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There may only be a one in 50,000
chance of getting myocarditis...
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but since there are no benefits,
that risk is unacceptable.
255
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And people must not underestimate that,
however small the odds may seem.
256
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That's two in every 100,000
and 20 in every million people.
257
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With two million children that means
we're giving myocarditis to 40 children.
258
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Not to mention
the possible residual damage.
259
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We have no idea of its effects
when the children are 50 or 60.
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How will it affect their heart?
261
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Children are born with
a large amount of natural antibodies.
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That's why children are fully protected
against the coronavirus.
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They can get sick,
but only very, very rarely seriously sick.
264
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You could say the children get sick,
even if it's only a little sick...
265
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but let's vaccinate them anyway
because that can do no harm.
266
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It can do harm, because the antibodies
the child will get from the vaccination...
267
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will compete with the innate antibodies.
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So you're going to make children
trade in their innate antibodies...
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that are very effective
and can handle every variant...
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for inferior vaccinal antibodies.
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In other words, we can expect
that when we vaccinate the children...
272
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they won't just lose their protection
against SARS-CoV-2...
273
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but moreover, they will be more prone
to other viral infections.
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I want to use this opportunity
to mention pregnant people.
275
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People are quick to say:
'Don't worry, it's all safe.'
276
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Firstly, we started vaccinating
in the Netherlands on 6 January.
277
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The first vaccinated women have
probably given birth around this time.
278
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We currently have no idea how many
pregnancies have been aborted.
279
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That hasn't been looked into yet.
280
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Compare that to saying to a woman:
'You shouldn't drink a glass of wine.'
281
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But on the other hand,
it's fine to give them a vaccination...
282
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that has unknown side effects
and is only conditionally approved.
283
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I think it's a strange stance to take
regarding pregnant women.
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My advice to pregnant women is:
Take care of yourself.
285
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Take care of your baby.
But don't get vaccinated.
286
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Can I get vaccinated if I'm pregnant?
-Certainly.
287
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Getting vaccinated has no effect
on your pregnancy.
288
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To what extent does vaccinating
healthy people and children...
289
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prevent the virus from spreading?
290
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Tests have been done in which they
compared breakthrough infections...
291
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that's when a vaccinated person
gets coronavirus anyway.
292
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:29,680
They actually adjusted the PCR test
to measure how much virus it contained.
293
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The amount of virus shed
by vaccinated people who got sick...
294
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and by unvaccinated sick people
was the same.
295
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:44,360
That's exactly the reason why
the whole 2G situation was put on ice.
296
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It's useless, because the vaccines
no longer reduce the transmission.
297
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:55,200
The effectiveness of the vaccines
is lower than expected.
298
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,600
That was revealed
in the first scientific studies.
299
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That's partially due to
the breakthrough infections.
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We also know that it's not feasible
to pursue a zero-COVID policy...
301
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because COVID viruses mutate rapidly.
302
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It's an illusion
to think that it can be eradicated.
303
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Didn't they know 18 months ago
that coronaviruses keep mutating?
304
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,760
Yes, that was known.
305
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:30,360
They are well aware that these vaccines
aren't capable...
306
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:37,160
aren't capable at all
of limiting the transmission of the virus.
307
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:45,280
This goes completely against
the initial expectations.
308
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At first, they had expectations...
309
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that the vaccines
would limit the transmission of the virus.
310
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This assumption is totally wrong.
311
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When you choose to be vaccinated,
you protect yourself and each other.
312
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And when we look around,
we see the other reasons to do it.
313
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The vaccines being used were developed
based on the original Wuhan variant.
314
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:25,560
And now they want everyone to get
a booster shot against Omicron.
315
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,600
But the booster injection
is exactly the same as the first two shots.
316
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,760
How useful is it to make people
get a booster shot...
317
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against a new variant,
like the Omicron variant?
318
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,400
First of all, you have to prove
that Omicron is a problem.
319
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What's the deal with the virulence?
320
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:51,160
In most cases,
people get a runny nose and that's it.
321
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:57,960
But then in the Netherlands we get
a press conference where they say:
322
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'We don't know if this will be severe,
but as a precaution...
323
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,640
we're going to enforce
the heaviest lockdown so far.'
324
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As of tomorrow, the Netherlands
is going into lockdown again.
325
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,600
The Netherlands will lock down again.
326
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:24,160
This is inevitable due to the fifth wave
with the Omicron variant.
327
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,600
I think it's a strange strategy.
328
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,560
And I think it's strange
that after two vaccinations...
329
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the antibodies decrease much faster
than after natural immunity...
330
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and that people get new infections.
331
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,240
That means something happens
to the immune system.
332
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,360
Because people aged under forty
that have received two vaccinations...
333
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,840
it turns out that the Omicron variant
appears more frequently.
334
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,440
The so-called breakthrough infection.
I find that striking...
335
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,920
because they're young and healthy
with a good immune system.
336
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,160
How can a new variant
come about in that group?
337
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:21,480
Based on the current scientific facts
booster vaccinations are irresponsible.
338
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,680
Especially for the elderly.
They have received a third booster.
339
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,360
But the fatality rate remains the same
as last year.
340
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,600
That makes me wonder about
the use of these vaccinations.
341
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,640
And we've seen that people
have become more vulnerable.
342
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,360
I'm really concerned about this.
343
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:47,520
We need to stop and evaluate
and discontinue the booster shots.
344
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:54,320
It's strange to develop a vaccine
that stops working after six months...
345
00:31:54,440 --> 00:32:00,160
and then to decide it would be effective
to give people more of the same.
346
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:04,080
I would say:
No, that won't be effective.
347
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:09,760
The more boosters you give, the more
specific the immune response becomes.
348
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:15,480
It becomes even more specific
to the Wuhan strain.
349
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,640
And therefore less effective
against variations of that strain.
350
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,880
By vaccinating the entire population...
351
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:33,200
we're going to take the innate immunity
that healthy people possess...
352
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:41,280
and partially supress it
in exchange for a specific immunity...
353
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:47,320
where there is an increasing resistance
to the vaccinal antibodies.
354
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:53,600
This has disadvantages
for individual and public health.
355
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:59,280
Firstly, the vaccinated people
are less well protected.
356
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:07,000
And considering that innate immunity
is an important part of group immunity...
357
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:12,240
and is able to eradicate the virus,
it will be completely lost to us...
358
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:19,000
if we substitute innate antibodies
with vaccinal antibodies.
359
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,720
That's why it's my recommendation
not to vaccinate...
360
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:31,360
healthy people with an innate immunity
that can be trained.
361
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:37,440
And especially not children,
because their innate antibodies...
362
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,360
will be severely suppressed
by the vaccinal antibodies.
363
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:47,680
Many people wonder:
It was developed so fast, can it be right?
364
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:52,520
We explain to them that it's because
so much effort was put into it.
365
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,120
No corners were cut
and it meets all the safety requirements.
366
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:02,080
And young and healthy people wonder
why they should get a vaccination.
367
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,920
We tell them: You don't take it
just for yourself, but for each other.
368
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,160
That's how we try to eliminate
questions and doubts.
369
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,600
How do you explain
the government's adamant claim...
370
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:22,000
that the vaccination is safe
without offering any nuance in this?
371
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,160
I don't get that.
And I don't understand...
372
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,200
that the information that is known
about VAERS from EudraVigilance...
373
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:36,320
when compared with other vaccines,
we see there are far more side effects...
374
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:41,760
and far more fatalities than for the vaccines
brought to market earlier.
375
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,720
While other vaccines with 53 fatalities
were taken off the market.
376
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,800
I don't understand
why it's being implemented like this.
377
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:57,840
We know that 350 athletes
have had to quit their profession...
378
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,200
have been side-lined temporarily
and a few have even died.
379
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,840
The athletes are exploring
a possible link with the vaccination.
380
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,640
It's exceptionally strange
that immune systems of top athletes...
381
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:20,440
aren't able to deal with inflammations,
like pericarditis and myocarditis.
382
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,320
That means the immune system
can no longer keep the body in balance.
383
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,160
Something is happening.
And that's what concerns me.
384
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,040
The vaccines might be
weakening the immune system.
385
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:39,880
To wonder why that is happening is
pure speculation, because I don't know.
386
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:46,440
Those vaccines contain something
that makes these cases unusual.
387
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:22,720
Since August, Statistics Netherlands
has been reporting excess deaths.
388
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,440
Last week 1,200 more people died
than they had expected.
389
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,600
You might think it's due to coronavirus,
but it's not.
390
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:36,880
Only 350 people died of coronavirus.
391
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:42,400
That leaves almost 900 people
who died of something else.
392
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:47,680
We don't know why, because we're
not getting the data we need to find out.
393
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:55,680
For example, recently Ernst Kuipers
was asked during a House committee:
394
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:01,160
'Have the people that are currently
in the IC units been vaccinated or not?'
395
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,680
Mr Kuipers responded:
'Those figures won't tell you anything.'
396
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:11,560
I can give you the figures per region
or per hospital, but it means nothing.
397
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,240
I would love to get
the figures per hospital.
398
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:21,160
That would require much effort
and in the end it would be useless.
399
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,280
Firstly, I will decide
if the figures are useless to me or not.
400
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:30,920
And with all due respect, I think I can do
more with the figures than Mr Kuipers.
401
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:37,160
I think there should be
more transparency about the data.
402
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:43,600
Look, I'm not asking for myself.
I'm asking this for the Dutch people...
403
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:47,000
who have become sick
due to coronavirus...
404
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:52,880
or are suffering from the negative
side effects caused by the treatment.
405
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:59,040
I think that information is so important
that it shouldn't be waved away with:
406
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,680
'Those figures are no use to you.'
407
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,040
Independent experts with
a different opinion than those...
408
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:13,920
working for the government are
opposed, censored or even silenced.
409
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:19,080
While there are so many valid questions
regarding the coronavirus policy.
410
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,280
Is there even room for
a genuine scientific debate?
411
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:31,000
Since the Dutch coronavirus crisis started
scientific debates have been blocked.
412
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:37,080
I now get criticism from fact checkers
instead of from fellow scientists.
413
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:45,160
Fact checkers are used nowadays
and they lack any scientific knowledge.
414
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,120
We have to deal with them,
while we would prefer to hear...
415
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:54,040
from our colleagues.
Tell me that I'm wrong.
416
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:59,120
Explain the mistake in my reasoning,
but that's not what's happening.
417
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:02,960
I always say:
Don't leave any stone unturned.
418
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:09,760
If I don't understand a question,
I will not rest until I find the answer.
419
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:17,680
With such a complex phenomenon
you can't leave anything unanswered.
420
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,960
I can say with confidence that I'm not afraid
to have a debate with any expert.
421
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:29,720
But I can tell you this, all those experts
are afraid to have a debate with me.
422
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,040
Because they misunderstood
the pandemic.
423
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,920
As a result, the entire vaccination policy
from start to finish...
424
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,120
has been entirely wrong from start to finish.
425
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:44,960
We have gained nothing since its start.
426
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,080
Absolutely nothing.
We've only made the situation worse.
427
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,560
Luckily Omicron is resistant,
but it's very infectious.
428
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,360
With our innate immunity
we can deal with every infectious variant.
429
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,600
We have a chance
to get this under control...
430
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:09,520
if we get rid of the current policy
and change it radically.
431
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,800
This is purely
a reflection of the prevailing panic...
432
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,600
incompetence, ignorance
and the stubbornness.
433
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:24,120
The stupidity of not talking to people
with a different opinion.
434
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:28,160
The arrogance of moving forwards
despite the ignorance.
435
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:32,920
And the stubbornness of not admitting
that they could've made a mistake.
436
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,560
They are in power at the top
and they can't be reached.
437
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:43,560
They dictate what happens
and the people have to accept it.
438
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:51,040
That's stands in complete opposition
to all the known science.
439
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:58,120
I must be honest
and say that I consider this a crime.
440
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:05,880
And this coming from a scientist who
doesn't like to express himself this way.
441
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,720
I've noticed that people are saying:
442
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,720
'If I disclose what I know,
it will cost me my career.
443
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:23,960
I can forget about my research. I won't
get grants. My career will be over.'
444
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,720
That's sad,
but that's the current atmosphere.
445
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:33,520
And then comes the question:
'Why did you decide to come forward?'
446
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,560
I didn't choose to do this.
Last year, I saw to my amazement...
447
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:44,680
that Pfizer's mRNA file was
up for review at the EMA.
448
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,440
And that it was accepted without a hiccup.
449
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:15,880
But I realised that this technology
is not good, this won't work.
450
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:21,440
They were taking such a huge risk
that I couldn't sleep at night.
451
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:26,280
Everyone would deal with it differently.
452
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,920
But I decided to step forward
and disclose what I know.
453
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,960
That had certain consequences.
454
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,760
I had no idea
what those consequences would be.
455
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,200
But your initial question was:
What was your motivation?
456
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:52,200
I just felt that I needed to do this.
And I did. And now we're here.
457
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:08,320
I see that the scientists I speak to are
visibly distraught by what's happening.
458
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:13,840
Even in the workplace in hospitals
differing opinions are ignored.
459
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,360
I had a discussion with Brian de Lange,
an emergency physician.
460
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:23,880
He wrote an urgent letter to parliament
with fellow doctors to ring the alarm.
461
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,840
I asked him about
his view on the policy.
462
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:34,680
Firstly, they're not willing to listen
to differing opinions or analyses.
463
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:41,360
And in the meantime,
various studies have now shown...
464
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:47,640
that certain measures haven't had
the effects that were promised.
465
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,640
Things like mass vaccinations,
vaccinating children...
466
00:43:52,760 --> 00:44:00,560
mandatory face masks and the curfew
have caused demonstrable damage...
467
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:07,160
with only minor or no benefit at all
to public health.
468
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,720
A debate about this is not allowed.
469
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,800
And that's probably the worst thing
of these last two years.
470
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,400
What stood out in your urgent letter
was that you wrote...
471
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:27,400
that measures are being taken that are
ineffectual and not based on science.
472
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,520
Can you expand on that?
473
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,600
When you take measures
as a government...
474
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:39,800
or as the OMT, an advisory body,
you need a thorough substantiation.
475
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:47,600
And when you read the OMT's advice
the scientific basis is very poor.
476
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:53,120
And they never check afterwards
whether the predictions were true or not.
477
00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:56,000
For example, the mandatory face mask.
478
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,840
You can't make a solid case
that wearing a face mask leads to...
479
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,280
significantly fewer hospital admissions,
IC admissions or deaths.
480
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,360
And now there's a debate
regarding the QR codes.
481
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:16,680
It's easy to predict
that such a measure won't prevent...
482
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,640
a person with a QR code
from infecting someone else.
483
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,880
That's why these measures
are ineffective.
484
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,320
The cabinet claims that the hospitals
don't have enough capacity...
485
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,080
and might have to enforce Code Black.
486
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:38,440
It may not be proven beyond a doubt
that the measures are effective...
487
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:44,840
but with half the information
we have to take all the decisions.
488
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:50,400
Last week's predictions were that
we would have 50 to 70 patients a day.
489
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,720
That means I will have to enforce
Code Black in ten days.
490
00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:00,080
It's possible that they had to make
decisions based on limited information.
491
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:06,200
You do need to reassess though.
This was possible in April or May 2020.
492
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,200
That this didn't happen is careless.
493
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:17,440
The advice that the OMT gave
in January 2020...
494
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:24,240
was that they expected coronavirus to have
a fatality rate of 2 or 3 percent or more.
495
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:29,120
This turned out not to be true.
It was much lower than that.
496
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:34,560
They assumed that everyone could
be affected, which wasn't true either.
497
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,680
It was mainly the elderly.
498
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:42,120
That's one of the reasons
that we wrote the urgent letter.
499
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:48,200
We wrote that we wanted to talk
to the Ministry and Minister Kuipers...
500
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,920
but we're being completely ignored.
501
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:57,360
That's baffling and unheard of because
you must be able to exchange thoughts.
502
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,760
Medicine isn't black and white.
503
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:04,320
They're pretending there's one truth,
but that's not the case.
504
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:10,480
You just said that the measures
that have been taken are ineffective.
505
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,320
What should the cabinet do instead?
506
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:20,440
It's important to take away the fear
that was initially created.
507
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,280
This could've been done in late April.
508
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,320
Most people won't get sick.
Jaap van Dissel said this various times.
509
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:35,280
And the expected fatality rate of 2-3%
turned out to be only 0.15%
510
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:41,720
Secondly, which I find incomprehensible
is that they didn't examine...
511
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:48,400
how to prevent people who are sick
from ending up in the hospital.
512
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:54,080
At first, various studies were done
all around the world...
513
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,840
and doctors tried out various drugs.
514
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:04,080
Instead of embracing that idea
it was pushed aside.
515
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:09,000
That it's forbidden and that you can
get fined is inconceivable.
516
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:16,120
Thirdly, why have there been so many
cutbacks in healthcare the last decade?
517
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:18,400
There are fewer hospitals now.
518
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:23,920
There are far fewer IC units, down by 20%.
519
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,560
If this is public knowledge,
you should do everything you can...
520
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,960
to raise the capacity,
but that didn't happen.
521
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:39,360
And we can now conclude
that if we had raised the capacity...
522
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,320
we wouldn't be in lockdowns anymore.
523
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:48,080
And we wouldn't have reacted
so frantically to models...
524
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,680
that have proven to be incorrect
time and time again.
525
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:01,640
When renowned scientists
and physicians can explain so clearly...
526
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,080
that the current policy is not
in the interest of public health...
527
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:11,480
then why do so many people
still go along with the coronavirus narrative?
528
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:18,120
I asked Mattias Desmet, Professor of
Clinical Psychology at Ghent University.
529
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:23,320
He is an expert on the mass formation
phenomenon and totalitarianism.
530
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:30,720
During the first week of the lockdown
in Belgium I published an article called:
531
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,720
'The fear of the virus is
more dangerous than the virus itself.'
532
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:41,280
I felt that I had to speak up now
or forever hold my peace.
533
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,640
I obtained a Master in Statistics
in that period.
534
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:50,680
That trained me to see the issues with
figures, statistics, graphs and models.
535
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:57,000
The first months I studied the statistics,
like the mortality rate of the virus...
536
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,920
the infection and case fatality rate...
537
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:04,720
the mathematical models used
to predict the course of the pandemic.
538
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:12,640
I studied them and in late May 2020
I came to the conclusion...
539
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:19,720
that most of the statistical estimates
regarding the mortality of the virus...
540
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,960
were much too high. They severely
overestimated the danger of the virus.
541
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,800
Then I started to look at it
from a psychological perspective.
542
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:37,440
I wondered how an entire population
could go along with a story...
543
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:45,680
and be oblivious to the fact
that there's reason to doubt the story.
544
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:56,000
In the Netherlands we clearly see
numerous inconsistencies....
545
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:01,000
and figures
that have clearly been manipulated.
546
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,520
How do you explain that such
a large part of the population...
547
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:11,720
keeps having blind faith in information
provided by the government...
548
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,160
and isn't open to other opinions...
549
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:22,040
and not willing to listen
to the voice of reason?
550
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:29,600
It's remarkable that the experts involved
in compiling the figures and models...
551
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:36,000
don't realise themselves
that they're using the figures wrong.
552
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:44,040
That made me come up with my theory
about mass formation in August 2020.
553
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:49,200
Mass formation is a phenomenon
that occurs under specific conditions.
554
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:55,880
A lack of social cohesion in a society
is the most important condition...
555
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,400
for mass formation, which was
the case before the coronavirus crisis.
556
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,520
The alienation and isolation rates
have been rising a few hundred years.
557
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,000
The second condition is
a lack of meaning in life.
558
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:14,800
It's linked to the first. Isolated people
will feel that their life has little meaning.
559
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,160
The third condition is
a lot of free-floating anxiety.
560
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,240
That is fear that's not linked to anything.
561
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,880
When you're afraid of dogs,
you know what you fear.
562
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:31,000
But there's also a fear that is not
connected to a specific representation.
563
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,120
People then look for something
to connect their anxiety to.
564
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:40,640
Free-floating anxiety mainly occurs
when people lack social bonds...
565
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,560
and meaning.
People then feel disrupted.
566
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:49,360
They feel a discomfort that makes them
feel anxious for unknown reasons.
567
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:54,880
The first three conditions are the cause
for much frustration and aggression.
568
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,400
When at that time
a story spreads in mass media...
569
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:03,080
that mentions an object of fear
and a strategy to deal with it...
570
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:08,520
all that free-floating anxiety
connects itself to that object of fear.
571
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,320
You can see how a society permeated
with discontent and anxiety...
572
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,480
has the tendency to connect
that anxiety to that object...
573
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:21,360
and to go along with the strategy
that is handed to them.
574
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,680
And it leads to something else,
the core of the issue.
575
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:29,000
When many people connect their anxiety
to the same object...
576
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:33,360
it creates a new social cohesion
and a new meaning to life.
577
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:38,080
That's the reason why people choose
to go along with the narrative.
578
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,920
Even when it's radically absurd
on certain points.
579
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,520
Mass formation is
as old as history itself.
580
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:51,720
Like the crusades that were
accompanied by mass formation.
581
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:58,560
The St. Bartholomew's Day massacre
in France, and the French Revolution.
582
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:03,320
In the 19th century mass formations
became increasingly larger.
583
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:08,400
They led to a new government form:
totalitarianism.
584
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:14,960
How do you explain
that all corners of society...
585
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:21,160
from science to education
and also the mass media...
586
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:28,000
follow and support this policy?
And the hostile reactions...
587
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:33,440
to everyone who has the audacity
to voice a different opinion?
588
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:39,560
That everyone goes along with it
is the phenomenon of mass formation.
589
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:44,640
In a certain way
the masses have an unlikely appeal.
590
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,840
Canetti describes beautifully in his book
called 'Crowds and Power'...
591
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,160
how even on a physical plane
the masses have a strange appeal.
592
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:59,880
Canetti describes that when
a group of people gather in a city...
593
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:05,000
that group in a strange way
attracts other people.
594
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,000
And how that group becomes a mass.
595
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,880
A phenomenon
that occurs with starlings.
596
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:17,720
In the evening, starlings are drawn
to each other from everywhere...
597
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,640
and start to move in perfect harmony.
598
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:26,760
Mass formation is considered
a similar phenomenon.
599
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,880
It also happens in football stadiums
when a temporary mass forms...
600
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,440
that chants and sings together.
601
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,720
In a strange way everyone is
drawn into that same dynamic.
602
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,800
The individual ceases to exist.
603
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:45,920
The group sense takes over
the individual sense.
604
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:56,800
Mass formation always goes hand
in hand with a remarkable intolerance...
605
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,280
of those that don't join in with the mass...
606
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:06,840
or voice an opinion
that disagrees with the mass.
607
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:18,680
The dissident opinion threatens
to undo the mass formation.
608
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:23,800
People sense that if that voice
isn't silenced and is tolerated...
609
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,640
that they will wake up
from the mass formation...
610
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,440
and will again have to face
the awful situation they were in before.
611
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,920
I can barely find the words for it.
612
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:10,280
It's almost criminal that they are
so adamant about vaccinating people.
613
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:17,480
I find it especially irresponsible
that children are getting vaccinated.
614
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:22,360
Absolutely.
-Children aren't bothered by it all.
615
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:28,080
It's extremely careless
to vaccinate children...
616
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,920
while the long-term effects
are still unknown.
617
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,840
My work in parliament,
my search for truth...
618
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,800
and the accompanying commotion
can be very exhausting.
619
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,240
I'm very glad with the support
I get from my environment.
620
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,560
And in particular from Carola,
my girlfriend.
621
00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:02,480
We first met during
the 2017 campaign elections.
622
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:07,720
And after that we met several times
at various political gatherings.
623
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:14,720
And over the last year we got
to know each other much better.
624
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,920
The situation has changed a lot
since then.
625
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:25,600
Back then I was mainly worried about
mass immigration, climate policy...
626
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,840
the increasing transfer of power
to the European Union.
627
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:37,440
The past year has all been about
the freedom-restricting coronavirus policy.
628
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:43,280
I'm glad that we're
both of the same mind on that topic.
629
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:50,640
And that we have similar views on
what is currently taking place.
630
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:55,240
Gideon is
an enormous source of support for me.
631
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,480
I feel that he really understands me.
632
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,360
And he's also a source of inspiration.
633
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:07,480
I don't know anyone
who is as courageous as he is.
634
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,880
I think that we complement each other.
635
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:17,280
It's great to have a girlfriend
with whom I can discuss everything.
636
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,680
We support each other
through thick and thin.
637
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:27,120
That's a relief. It gives me
the support and strength I need...
638
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,560
to continue with this important work.
639
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,400
The issues we're currently facing
in the Netherlands...
640
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:54,440
are not comparable
with the problems of a few years ago.
641
00:59:54,560 --> 01:00:00,920
I talk to people on the streets
that have tears in their eyes...
642
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:06,800
because they lost everything
that they worked for in a very short time.
643
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:14,880
People who see that their children
got vaccinated without their knowledge.
644
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,760
People who lost their friends.
People who are getting divorced.
645
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:27,240
It's impossible to describe the suffering
that's currently going on in this country.
646
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:34,040
It's of a different magnitude
compared to a few years ago.
647
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:41,280
That makes me feel
a great deal of responsibility...
648
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,760
to stand up for these people.
649
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:50,720
We want the Netherlands to be free
again and have to keep fighting for that.
650
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:58,680
The consequences of the coronavirus
policy were felt throughout our society.
651
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:03,880
How did the coronavirus crisis approach
affect our economy?
652
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:09,600
I discussed the current state of affairs
with business strategist Twan Houben.
653
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:14,920
At the start of the crisis the Netherlands
was in a better economic position...
654
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,400
than many other European countries,
as our national debt was below 60%.
655
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,720
That's a line drawn by the EU.
656
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:27,400
That means that the Dutch government
can spend relatively more money...
657
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,160
than many other European countries.
658
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,200
Here we are again.
659
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:37,640
That means we need another
substantial financial aid package.
660
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,640
We need to keep doing
what is necessary...
661
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,200
to limit the damage for
companies and employees.
662
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:49,240
I wonder if that is wise.
I doubt it. I think it's dangerous...
663
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:55,840
because I expect an economic crisis
in the second half of this year.
664
01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:01,360
If you're still spending a lot of money
while the interest rates are rising.
665
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:06,160
The government can spend so much
because the interest rates are low.
666
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,560
Then you can borrow what you like.
667
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:14,280
If they rise and you've made promises
to spend billions, you'll run into trouble.
668
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,240
I'm afraid that will happen.
And here's my second point:
669
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:24,000
The Dutch national debt is relatively low,
but the debt of the private sector...
670
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:28,880
the debt of citizens and companies
is among the highest in Europe.
671
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,280
Rabobank has charts showing this.
672
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:37,320
In the EU we're at the top of the list
for private debt in relation to the GDP.
673
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,840
That means people will suffer
in the private sector.
674
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:46,360
I also asked Henk van Dalen, economist
and former Rabobank supervisor...
675
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,400
about the state of the Dutch economy
after two years of coronavirus policy.
676
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,600
Much has changed in the past two years.
677
01:02:53,720 --> 01:03:01,600
At the end of 2019,
the world had 250,000 billion euros of debt.
678
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:08,560
By the end of 2021,
that was 300,000 billion.
679
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:14,840
In two years the debt increased
by 50,000 billion.
680
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:19,360
This was during COVID.
That's an increase of 20%.
681
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:23,520
You can look at it this way:
It took us hundreds of years...
682
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:29,480
to accumulate
a debt of 250,000 billion...
683
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:35,240
and in just two years
we added another 50,000 billion.
684
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:40,920
I'll mention the so-called
Lehman Brothers crisis in 2008.
685
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:45,560
The investment bank
Lehman Brothers is for sale...
686
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,360
because they can't get
out of the trouble they're in.
687
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:54,600
At that time, global debt
was about 150,000 to 160,000 billion.
688
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,560
At the time,
we could just barely handle that crash.
689
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:05,240
It took the global economy
four to five years to recover.
690
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:10,960
So when something does happen,
it won't be easy to handle.
691
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,520
Besides that the national debt
has risen significantly...
692
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,560
and entrepreneurs are made
totally dependent on government aid...
693
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,760
the lockdowns have
another direct effect on the economy.
694
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,360
The disruption of supply chains
across the globe...
695
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:32,440
are the cause of the inflation
that's affecting us all at the moment.
696
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:37,400
In general, all the problems
the world is currently dealing with...
697
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:43,920
like coronavirus, inflation, the debt crisis
are the effects of globalisation.
698
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:49,000
Globalisation caused certain shifts
in economies.
699
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:53,280
We've been outsourcing labour
to low-wage countries.
700
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,080
And we've developed knowledge there.
701
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,040
We lost employment opportunities
as a country and in Europe.
702
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:03,000
It seemed to go well,
as prosperity seemed to be rising...
703
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:07,720
due to increased productivity
and the printing of more money.
704
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:11,040
It seemed to go well,
but then coronavirus broke out.
705
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,960
And due to coronavirus, we had lockdowns.
706
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,520
And due to the lockdowns,
factories were shut down.
707
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:22,600
And when the lockdowns end,
the factories have a delivery backlog.
708
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,280
They have to make up for lost time.
709
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,640
That's not always possible
and it takes time.
710
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:33,080
Because it takes time
there's a product shortage in the stores.
711
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,160
And when demand exceeds supply,
prices rise.
712
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:43,560
The current inflation is caused by the
lockdown that disrupted the supply chain...
713
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,800
which led to demand exceeding supply
which in turn caused prices to rise.
714
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:53,120
The global network of flows
of raw materials and products...
715
01:05:53,240 --> 01:06:01,120
was made by small and big companies
with the best intentions in the 1970s.
716
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,640
But we've reached a point
where you have to wonder:
717
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:11,400
Hasn't it all become too complex,
too extensive and too complicated?
718
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:18,040
For example, not so long ago
the Evergreen blocked the Suez Canal.
719
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:24,520
As a consequence, the supply chains
were disrupted for weeks, for months even.
720
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:38,480
That process is becoming
tighter and tighter.
721
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,000
When you look at antibiotics.
722
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:47,040
90 to 95% of all antibiotics are made
in China and India.
723
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:52,800
But consider how important antibiotics
are for all societies.
724
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:57,400
This has led to
a dependency relationship...
725
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:03,520
deliberately created by Western companies
that moved their production over there.
726
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,920
That decision is going to come back
to haunt us someday.
727
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:37,440
It seems many problems are caused
by the globalisation of the last decades.
728
01:07:37,560 --> 01:07:44,360
International organisations, corporate
states and NGOs have gained power.
729
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:49,320
We've lost more of our independence
and become more and more dependent.
730
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:55,160
In my opinion, globalisation is
the cause of all of our current problems.
731
01:07:55,280 --> 01:08:02,960
From the disruption of supply chains
to the global approach to coronavirus.
732
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:07,800
Or things like current inflation
and the ongoing housing crisis.
733
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:13,280
Not just in the Netherlands, but also in
Sydney and New York. It's everywhere.
734
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:17,520
It all has to do with globalisation.
735
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:25,000
The leaders of all those multinationals
decided back then:
736
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,000
We'll produce things more cheaply abroad.
737
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:34,040
And we'll take the jobs and expertise
with us to increase our profit margins.
738
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:40,600
As a consequence,
we've seen an exodus of jobs.
739
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,080
And capital. Many factories
and machines disappeared here.
740
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:51,360
In the end this has led to lower growth
in the eurozone than we would have had.
741
01:08:51,480 --> 01:08:55,400
Studies show
that since the introduction of the euro...
742
01:08:55,520 --> 01:09:00,640
growth is on the zero line
when you take Europe as a whole.
743
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:02,640
That's disappointing.
744
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:08,520
It raises questions about the tenability
of our increasingly globalised society.
745
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,840
Have we reached the end of an era?
746
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:17,320
And how does this relate to the roll out
of coronavirus policies on a global scale?
747
01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:20,920
I asked Bob de Wit,
Professor of Strategic Leadership...
748
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,680
and the author of Society 4.0.
749
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:28,480
We've become an increasingly
globalising industrialised society.
750
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,400
We have tech companies
that are bigger than nations.
751
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:37,800
The number of NGOs has increased
from 400 to 40,000 in the last century.
752
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:42,520
On an international level the situation
has become much more complex.
753
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:47,160
In the international playing field
things are taking place...
754
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:54,160
that create friction in the way
our industrial society has been designed.
755
01:09:54,280 --> 01:10:00,480
International negotiations are failing,
so no decisions are made.
756
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,320
The gap between citizens
and the police is increasing.
757
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:07,360
In the transition to a new age
there is always turmoil.
758
01:10:07,480 --> 01:10:15,320
Since 2017, I've been expecting the start
of a revolution to a new form of society.
759
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:22,920
What will this societal crisis
bring forth?
760
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:27,600
And what is the role of Klaus Schwab,
director of the World Economic Forum...
761
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,000
who advocates a Great Reset?
762
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:36,800
Schwab said that this is the moment
that we need to create a new society.
763
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,680
The pandemic is a reason to say:
764
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:44,960
This is a moment we should embrace
to create a new society.
765
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:17,760
The problem is that his proposal for
a new society is on a global scale...
766
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:24,200
because all the powerful tech parties
and NGOs operate on a global level.
767
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:28,480
The same goes for the UN.
And they're saying: 'Let us do it.
768
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:34,360
We have the funds, the power
and the UN has great ideas for SDGs.
769
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:39,200
Leave it up to us. We'll create
a global government that does right.
770
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:43,280
We'll save the planet
and everything will be all right.'
771
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:23,360
That means creating a top-down society
based on control and management.
772
01:12:23,480 --> 01:12:28,120
I have similar thoughts
that we need a new form of society...
773
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:31,120
but I don't believe in a top-down society.
774
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:35,000
I think a top-down society will
benefit the elite...
775
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,320
and the rest of the people
are controlled by force.
776
01:12:38,440 --> 01:12:43,160
We should create a society
that's in the interest of the citizens...
777
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,720
and involve
as many citizens as possible.
778
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:51,680
And we can use the same technologies
that control people to create freedom.
779
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:58,680
When we look at the current measures,
like the introduction of the QR society...
780
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:04,600
and the increasing pressure
and compulsion to get vaccinated...
781
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:09,880
how do those measures relate to
Klaus Schwab's Great Reset?
782
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:17,120
With a top-down society, it's key
to have control and full information.
783
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,480
A QR code is a way to get information.
784
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:26,800
The basic idea with a top-down society
is that you have to earn your citizenship.
785
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,120
I always use China as an example.
786
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:35,120
Communist societies are designed
to be top-down societies.
787
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:42,160
Where currently 1.3 billion Chinese
have a social credit score.
788
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,920
Everything they do, how they pay,
interact online and in traffic...
789
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:50,280
is all taken into consideration,
and if you do well, you get a high score.
790
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:55,840
Good citizens get passports, driving
licenses, schooling and healthcare.
791
01:13:55,960 --> 01:14:00,320
And if you don't do as the party says
you won't get enough points.
792
01:14:00,440 --> 01:14:04,720
You won't get a passport, a driving
license, schooling or healthcare.
793
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:10,600
In a top-down society you have to earn
your citizenship with good behaviour.
794
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,480
QR codes are comparable to
a social credit score.
795
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:20,440
It's part of a top-down society
that's based on compulsion.
796
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:28,440
There are people who believe in
a top-down society by using technology.
797
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:33,000
They see the need for a new society,
which I agree with.
798
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:38,600
And if one strategy doesn't work
they'll find another way to make it work.
799
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:44,120
The fight will go on and it will shift to
the next topic for people to worry about.
800
01:14:54,080 --> 01:15:01,720
I think we need to realise that we're
living in a unique era in history.
801
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:08,760
Don't focus too much on QR codes.
They're just a means in a larger game.
802
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,200
Focus on that game.
803
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:16,000
And people should accept
that we're in a transition period.
804
01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:19,000
Let's make this a better world.
It's possible.
805
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,360
We have the technology
to make it a better world.
806
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:26,120
The industrial age has brought us
many benefits.
807
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,600
Like wealth, prosperity, cars,
we can go on holidays.
808
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:35,840
These are great things, but it hasn't
really improved us as humans beings.
809
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:41,480
After all, we've become human robots.
We've become human resources.
810
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:46,200
You can also see this as a chance
to build a new society together.
811
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,840
We can work less and can use more
and more technology to do the work.
812
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:55,680
It gives us more time to focus on
the interpersonal aspects of life...
813
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,800
and on questions of meaning.
814
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:02,520
And we can look for ways to bring
us to a higher level as human beings.
815
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:08,240
You're sketching an alternative for
Klaus Schwab's Great Reset.
816
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:12,400
What needs to happen to achieve
your alternative vision?
817
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:16,520
My vision is based on
regional democracy.
818
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:22,720
A direct democracy that uses technology
and developments to reorganise society.
819
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:29,520
You'll see that a clash will take place
between two opposed views of society.
820
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,080
The current rulers won't go voluntarily.
821
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,960
They're the last to see things
and need to be persuaded.
822
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,680
And then we'll get the butterfly effect.
823
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:56,960
It will only take something small
to set it all off.
824
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:01,920
Things will start to escalate
and then the transition will take place.
825
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:13,240
People are working on
a new social and political order.
826
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:17,120
The decision-making power of nations
will disappear.
827
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:21,760
Political and economic decisions
will be taken by a global government.
828
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:27,520
A new global order that's in the interest
of large non-elected key players.
829
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:32,200
Like international organisations,
NGOs and large companies.
830
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,960
But it's in conflict with
the interests of society.
831
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,760
In the long term I'm optimistic...
832
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:44,480
because conflicts between the elite
and citizens have occurred before.
833
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:48,120
It has happened before
and each time it failed.
834
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:52,480
People overestimate
the power of the latest technologies...
835
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:56,280
to take control of a country,
a region or the world...
836
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:00,000
because more and more people
realise what's going on.
837
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:05,520
They see there is an alternative and
slowly they opt for that better alternative.
838
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:12,960
And you'll see that once again the plans
to create a top-down society will fail.
839
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:15,480
It's going to fail.
840
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:20,600
And finally, I spoke to Wassila Hachchi.
A former politician for D66...
841
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:26,760
who, since her departure, can speak
freely about the way politics are done.
842
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,640
What are her thoughts on
the current system crisis?
843
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:36,600
Politics is a world that operates
on the basis of fear.
844
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,880
Just look at
the House of Representatives.
845
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:47,040
That fear is reflected everywhere,
I even saw it within my own party.
846
01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:52,560
You fight within your party for
a higher place on the list of candidates.
847
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:57,240
You also fight against the other parties
to win the elections.
848
01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:03,760
And there's a fight in the power system
to become a state secretary or minister.
849
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:09,240
The whole system is permeated in fear.
That's what drives the politicians.
850
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:17,920
As people, we flourish and
are empowered in an environment of trust.
851
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,880
When we're in an environment
where we help each other.
852
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:29,600
And the powers-that-be should
always realise: You serve the people.
853
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,520
You don't have power over the people.
854
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:37,840
The people decide whether or not
you are worthy of that power.
855
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:45,760
In the end, as human beings
we need a system change.
856
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,160
A new kind of democracy.
857
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:52,240
A system where people feel
that they have more influence.
858
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:57,720
Systems don't change by playing
the game like it's always been played.
859
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,320
You'll have to change the game.
860
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:06,520
I've learned that real changes
only take place...
861
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:10,120
when the population demands it.
862
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:14,640
Power systems aren't eager to change.
863
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:18,480
Moreover, when power
has been structured in a certain way...
864
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:24,240
those in power don't want it to change,
because then they could lose power.
865
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:30,320
Just look in your history books,
real political changes only occur...
866
01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:35,200
after the population has said: 'We've had
enough. Things have to change.'
867
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:41,360
It's very enlightening to talk with
experts that are independent...
868
01:20:41,480 --> 01:20:45,920
about the coronavirus policy.
There's only one possible conclusion:
869
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:51,400
Coronavirus is not dangerous at all.
It's comparable with the common flu.
870
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:57,000
The measures are ineffective
and extremely damaging to society.
871
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:04,440
And vaccinating the entire population
is not only unnecessary, but dangerous.
872
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:09,920
Luckily more people are realising
that the current coronavirus policy...
873
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:15,320
doesn't serve public health,
but that other interests are involved.
874
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:21,480
The interests of a global elite
that wants a global top-down society.
875
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:26,480
We shouldn't be misled by
the so-called relaxation of measures.
876
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:32,680
Especially when measures are
just put on ice for later use.
877
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:36,880
It's not the first time
we've gotten excited about nothing.
878
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,720
If we sit back now and wait, it's not
a matter of if, but rather of when...
879
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,680
we will be robbed again
of our rights and liberties.
880
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:52,440
In the meantime, millions are being
invested in developing the coronavirus app.
881
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:58,600
Globally, far-reaching preparations are
being made for drastic control measures.
882
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,640
An extension of a mandatory QR code
to be able to travel.
883
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,400
And the introduction of digital ID cards.
884
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:10,320
Considering how much power
the governments already have...
885
01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:16,000
we must prevent them at all costs from
getting more means to control our lives.
886
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:20,800
Even now, unwelcome opinions
are dismissed as disinformation...
887
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:23,560
and censored from the debates.
888
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:29,120
Even now, bank accounts of protestors
and political enemies are being frozen.
889
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,920
Even now, unvaccinated people
are losing their jobs.
890
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:36,080
The power of governments
should be limited.
891
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:40,080
That's why we need to continue
our resistance.
892
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,840
Together we must take a stand
against the government.
893
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:48,120
We shouldn't let ourselves
be divided by our differences...
894
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:54,760
because only through mass protests,
civil disobedience and other actions...
895
01:22:54,880 --> 01:23:00,720
will we win our freedom back.
Battle-ready and united.
89039
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