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TRAVIS:I'm Dr. Travis Taylor.
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I was invitedto investigate this area
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known as Skinwalker Ranch.
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We've verified
and documented everything
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from UFO sightingsto these columns of light
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above the mesa,and even cattle mutilations.
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TRAVIS:
Let's go up the mountain.
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Look at that.
Microwaves like that
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could be harmful to humans.
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If you want the phenomenon
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to manifest itself,
you go and dig somewhere.
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When you dig, bad stuff happens.
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One day I was digging,
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my scalp separatedfrom my skull.
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If you're gonna be
a part of this,
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I have to unequivocably say
no digging.
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NARRATOR:There is a ranchin northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenterof the strangest
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and most disturbingphenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies
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that have proven harmfulto humans.
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For 20 years,the federal government
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tried to find answersand failed.
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Now a new teamof dedicated scientists,
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researches and expertshas taken over.
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They are determined to solvethe mystery and reveal...
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The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.
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TRAVIS:Hey, Brandon.
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Greetings, team. Uh, I'm gladthat you've patched me in,
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and I'm wondering how the
investigation is progressing.
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So, one of the first things
the guys want to do is...
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they want to dig.
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You know, I‐I'm not sure
I'm comfortable with that.
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There are certain risks
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you just haven'tbeen properly briefed on.
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TRAVIS:
Well, we need
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to be briefed
on that data, then.
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I understand. Erik,
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show them what is in the case.
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Regrettably, I have to goto a meeting, so I'll look
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‐for your update later.Thanks, gentlemen.
‐Will do.
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‐Thank you.
‐Thanks, Brandon.
‐See you later, Brandon.
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(beeping)
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TRAVIS:I came into this saying,
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"Look, guys, we're gonnafollow the scientific method."
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You can't keep data
away from the experiment
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and not show
the rest of the team
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in order for itto be a good experiment.
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So what I am going to show you
may offer an explanation
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for some of what we've been
seeing on the property.
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You'll understand as soon
as I open this up.
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You might recognize it.
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It's a very large
neodymium magnet.
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‐It's like the China syndrome
of magnets.
‐Yes.
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It's capable of exerting
quite a bit of force.
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TRAVIS:
Yeah, I mean,
you can lose a finger
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‐under a magnet like that.
‐Yeah.
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TRAVIS:A neodymium magnet is a magnet
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that's made out of neodymium,iron and boron
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and is a reallypowerful magnet.
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But when Erik opens upthis case,
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and he shows us this magnet,
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I'm looking at this thinking,
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"What does this have to do
with not digging on the ranch?"
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ERIK:
This object gives us a way
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to reproduce some of the effects
that we've seen
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on the property, ongoing.
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How did you reproduce
the effect?
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I can actually show it to you.
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‐Okay.
‐Now, these guys have seen it,
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but if you'd like, we can go in.
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‐Yeah. No, I'd love to see that.
‐I'll do a quick demo.
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‐Yeah, let's do that.
‐Sure.
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ERIK:
So, guys,
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what you see right there,
that's actually a still shot
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from a video that I made
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the first timeI came to this ranch.
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‐TRAVIS: From your phone?‐From the phone.
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ERIK:When I wentto the top of the mesa,
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I was getting artifactlike this.
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It was when we got downto Homestead 2,
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it finally cleared up and I was
able to take a normal picture.
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So, the question I have is,
well, what would it take
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to make that happen?
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‐Right.
‐Can I reproduce that effect?
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Hm‐hmm.
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Before I cameto Skinwalker Ranch,
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I'd heard that in additionto UFO sightings
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and animal mutilations,there were also a lot
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of strangeelectrical phenomena,
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like cell phones and electronics
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that just suddenly
wouldn't work.
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Down here on the countertop,
what I've got
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is a second magnet.
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This fixture lets us do this
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in a little more
controlled fashion.
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‐We're gonna watch the effect...
‐All right.
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‐...show up on this‐this phone.
‐I got it. Let's do it.
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‐All right.
‐(clears throat)
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All right, now, look, you're
gonna go through a position.
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I hold it at the position...
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‐ERIK: Right. Yeah.
‐Oh.
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‐TRAVIS: Uh, that's right.
Right there.
‐SEGALA: There you go.
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‐There it is.
‐ERIK: Right there.
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So I can make it happen.
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‐Very cool, Erik.
‐TRAVIS: I'll tell you what,
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I'm‐a hold the phone, Erik.
You move the magnet.
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ERIK:
And so what I'm seeing is that
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when I go through a certain
point, I'll get the effect.
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Well, that's interesting.
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Now I'm curious to find out
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where Eric is goingwith all this.
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Now, does he think
there's some giant magnet buried
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under the ground that's causing
some of these strange phenomena?
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Is that why he and the otherguys are afraid to dig?
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Pretty interesting, right?
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‐Yeah, every interesting.
‐TRAVIS: It's interesting.
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Not exactly sure
what it all means just yet.
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ERIK:
Yeah.
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And what has given me pause
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is whatever is generating
the malfunction on our devices
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is related to your injury
and to the other
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unpleasant experiences
that people have had
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on this property.
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THOMAS:A couple of years ago,
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I had been warned
not to dig on this ranch,
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which I thought
was absolutely ridiculous.
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So I paid zero attention to i,
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and ended up gettingvery, very sick, hospitalized.
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I had fluid that separatedthe fatty tissue from my skull.
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And to this day, my doctors
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still haven't come upwith an explanation.
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So, I'll tell you, I applaud
that you've looked for something
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that you can do
in a controlled manner
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and reproduce something
that you've seen.
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Now here's the thing,
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I've yet to hear
anything tell me
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that this magnetic field thing
is a reason not to dig.
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So, I think we have not
ruled out the possibility
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that we have something active
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beneath the surface
of this property.
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We have some evidence,
at least, to support the idea
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that there may be a magnetic
field‐generating device
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or devices or something,
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located on or beneath this
property, or perhaps above it.
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So, until we have done
all the noninvasive work,
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I don't think we're ready
to start digging.
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That's more my mind‐set.
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There's no data
that's been on the table
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that tells us
digging is correlated
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to anything that causes events.
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But a lot of the things bad
happen more often when you dig.
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‐Look, we're just trying to do
the best that we can out here.
‐No, I get it.
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And without getting people hurt.
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I‐‐ Hey, I appreciate that.
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I think we're all closer to
the same point than we realize.
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Uh, Erik, if we set out and we
do all of these different tests
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and use those to guide us
as to a point that we could dig,
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would you feel
comfortable with that?
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‐I think that's the approach
that I'm advocating.
‐TRAVIS: Sure.
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I‐I like that. Let's...
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ERIK:
Yeah, I'm confident.
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When we've exhausted
all the options,
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the noninvasive options.
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We've talked about it enough.
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I mean, w‐‐ let's figure out
what we're doing.
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What is our first step? What are
we gonna do, like, tomorrow?
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‐Okay.
‐That's fair enough.
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I think the first thing
that's got to be done,
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just from a safety standpoint,
is we need some experts
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to come in here to do a full
sweep of the ranch for safety.
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Measure radiological and RF and
microwaves on the whole ranch.
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Let's make sure that it's safe
just to be here;
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‐we're not getting
slow cooked or something.
‐Yeah, we can do that.
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You know, we've got people
that can come to the ranch,
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do a full sweep of radio
frequency radiation tomorrow.
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‐That sounds great to me.
What do you guys think?
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‐Well, let's go, let's do it.
‐Yeah.
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Okay.
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TRAVIS: So, how many peopleactually have
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access to the ranch?
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‐Very few.
‐Oh.
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We do our very best
to try to keep
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the integrity of the science
that's going on here.
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So, actually, today,
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they got the team out there
doing the radiation sweep
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‐and the RF sweep.
‐Oh, good. Good.
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Following our discussion in
the command center yesterday,
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we invited two different
companies up to the ranch.
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The first will look fordangerous levels of radiation
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and the secondwill look for microwaves.
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Now, if everything checks out,then we'll be safe
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to conductsome more focused experiments
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and find out where the strange
electromagnetic energy
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on the ranch is coming from.
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THOMAS:We're gonna continueto head across the ranch.
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You can see the old building.
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This is what we call
Homestead 2.
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There are specific places
on the ranch
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where I've even personallywitnessed some shadow figures.
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(whispering voices)
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I've heard voiceson multiple occasions.
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I've had individuals with methat heard the voices, too.
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The interesting thingis I have no idea
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whether it's an actualaudible voice
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or something that's playing outin my head.
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It was as if
someone was standing
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right in front of me,
talking to me,
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telling me to either stopwhat I was doing or to leave.
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Now, is this
all Indian reservation
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part of the ranch here or is
this part of the other property?
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Ute tribe is just right up
on top of this hill right here.
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TRAVIS:
Oh, okay.
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THOMAS:
The fascinating thing is there's
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a lot of Native Americans that,
to this day,
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they tell us that
they look to the east,
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they won't even acknowledge
that the ranch exists.
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That's strange.
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The Utes and the Navajos
actually have
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quite a storied past.
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They originally started offas allies and trading partners
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and then as generationswent on,
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relationships startedto become strained.
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So much so that when theU. S. government sent soldiers
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out to the Southwest
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to protect the white settlersfrom the Navajo tribe,
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the Ute tribe joined forceswith the soldiers.
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And as retribution, the Navajosactually cursed this land
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with evil spiritsknown as skinwalkers,
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which are evil entities
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that can take many differentforms and shapes.
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TRAVIS:So, where's the north border
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on the other side of the mesa,
how far does it go?
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Just to about
that back cliff over there.
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‐TRAVIS: Oh, really?
‐Yeah, just short of it.
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TRAVIS:
Huh.
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It looks different from the...
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BRYANT (over radio):Hey, Thomas. Do you copy?
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Yeah, Bryant. Go ahead.
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Yeah, we're up in the sinkholedoing this radiation sweep.
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You guys should get juststraight over here.
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We found some crazy stuffyou're gonna want to see.
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TRAVIS:While Tom Winterton and Iare taking a tour of the ranch,
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we get this emergency call
and it's from the team
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that's up on the mesa
scanning for harmful levels
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of radiation and microwaves.
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THOMAS:All right,
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we will head straight
over there. You'll see us soon.
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TRAVIS:My first thought was whetheror not the guys were getting
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the kinds of crazy readings
we measured yesterday
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when we were up on the mesa.
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(devices whirring)
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I mean, that's a significantamount of energy right there.
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We found electromagneticradiation
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that could be harmfulto humans.
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Oh! And it's shifted now.
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Now it's coming
from that direction.
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‐And it's all radiation.
‐TRAVIS: Yes. Yeah.
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‐I see them standing up there.‐THOMAS: Oh, you see themup there?
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‐TRAVIS: Yeah.‐THOMAS: We got to walkfrom here on up.
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TRAVIS:Yeah, okay.
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Hey, guys.
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The sinkhole is right over here.
Obviously, Thomas knows.
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These guys picked up stuff
I thought
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you guys would be interested
in seeing yourselves.
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TRAVIS:
Wow. Look at that.
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‐Hey, guys.
‐There's Jim down there.
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‐How far does it go?
‐It goes down.
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SNOWDER:
Quite a ways.
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TRAVIS: We get up there andthere's a hole in the ground.
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It's kind of like a littlecave, and it's big enough
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for three or four people
to get down in.
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This one is interesting
just because
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‐air flows out of it
and things like that.
‐Yeah, you can feel it.
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THOMAS:
We've had a few people
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that have climbed down
in that hole
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and experienced
some pretty extreme
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vertigo and nauseousness.
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The sinkhole is a spot
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that I found one day when I was
hiking up above Homestead 2
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and the thing
that made it remarkable
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the first time I found it was
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there is a cavitythat continues down.
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We've been trying to figure outhow far down there it goes,
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and it was justblasting cold air,
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just like an air conditioner.
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Myself, as well as, uh,
several other individuals that
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I was there to witness
have had experiences
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when we climbed down
inside that hole.
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You know, I kind of shrugged toff as heat stroke at the tim,
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but then, other individualsthat we've taken up there
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since then have experiencedthe same thing.
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BRYANT: Jeff is with Semper,
and he's measuring
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radio wave frequencies
and things like that.
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Travis and Casey
are with Qal‐Tek.
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They're doing
a full radiation sweep.
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‐All right.
‐We're also, while we're
in there, looking for
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V.O.C.s, uh,
and other chemicals.
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Such as?
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Such as nerve agents
or toxic chemicals.
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‐Okay.
‐And we actually got a really
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high hit, uh,
on our V. O. C. levels,
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about 3,600 parts per billion,
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which is a really high
abnormality.
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‐Dangerous level or just high?
‐Dangerous levels, certainly.
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Uh, it was a real quick hit.
It was, it was almost as if
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there was a ventilation
that plumed.
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We got a reading
off of that and then,
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‐um...
‐It disappeared.
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‐It disappeared.
‐Really?
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‐Yep.
‐That‐that's intriguing.
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There are all sorts
of volatile organic compounds
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like, uh, formaldehyde,
uh, benzene,
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but this sinkhole is pretty faraway from anything man‐made,
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so their presence hereis really strange.
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SEGALA:
The V. O. C. level,
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I thought that was significant,
3,700 parts per billion,
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‐that's...
‐It was very concerning.
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TRAVIS:
Well, let me ask you this:
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Did you take the RF meter
down inside?
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I haven't been down
in there yet.
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'Cause it'd be interesting
to see if you're
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getting anything
in there, RF‐wise.
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What if I go down
in there with you?
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You guys think it's safe
to go down in there, right?
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I mean, it wasn't‐‐
it was transient, right?
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We'll keep an air monitor
with you
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so we can make sure
there isn't any
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air displacement,
oxygen displacement.
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All right. Well, let's go
down in there and see.
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Do you want to send in
the O2 sensor first?
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Makes the most safety sense.
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I think that's just‐‐
that's smart.
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I like not dying.
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I'll jump in and make sure
O2 sensors levels are good.
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I like having the air quality
sensor in there first.
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For sure.
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(device whirring)
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All right, we got normal levels
here, so you're good.
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All right, bring it on in.
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I'll take measurements
if you call them up to me.
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Oh, yeah.
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I don't know if anyone brought
a flashlight, you can see.
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You got one?
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Your phone will work. That's
what they're made for, right?
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Oh, wow.
You know, there's no telling
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how far that thing
goes down in there.
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JEFF:
If anything
coming out of there...
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TRAVIS:
Yeah, you're gonna
get it, right?
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JEFF:
Yep, that's right.
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I did see a spike.
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An instantaneous spike at around
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one two, four, zero,
let's call it.
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I'm seeing only
background levels here,
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but when I put the antenna
down by the hole,
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I clearly see
some spikes forming.
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‐I've got some peaks showing.
‐You sure do.
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‐Yeah.
‐So, right at the opening?
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Right at the opening, when I put
the antenna down in there.
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Okay, Erik,
we're on preset number two.
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Let me, let me ask a question
real quick, guys.
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Do any of y'all feel
swimmy‐headed at all?
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SNOWDER:
No, you good?
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ERIK:
You feeling it?
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I don't know.
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Slightly, I felt like I was
not holding my balance well
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for a second there. That's why
I put my hand over on the rock.
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And I'm feeling it now, too.
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‐Any change in the oxygen level?
‐Yeah, that's what
I was wondering.
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‐No, it's consistent.
‐ERIK: Sure.
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TRAVIS:
It's weird, it feels weird.
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Yeah, m‐my knees
are starting to,
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actually kind of starting
to tremble.
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00:16:56,849 --> 00:16:58,139
I'm‐I'm feeling kind of shaky.
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00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:02,653
That's not all right.
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00:17:04,649 --> 00:17:07,359
One of the things
that's the largest of concern
That was weird.
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I mean, I‐I feel like
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I just worked out
and I didn't eat before.
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You know, feels weird.
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BRYANT: Are any of you
other guys feeling anything
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‐bad down there at all?
‐SNOWDER: No.
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I just felt like
I was gonna bonk.
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00:17:22,124 --> 00:17:23,924
Dude, I will tell you
my phone battery just went...
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00:17:23,918 --> 00:17:25,338
(blows raspberry)
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00:17:25,336 --> 00:17:27,876
‐Your battery's dead
on your phone?
‐TRAVIS: Yeah.
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‐Huh.
‐TRAVIS: Your battery's dead,
too, ain't it?
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It shut off.
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TRAVIS:
Clearly, something
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is in that hole that‐that made
me have a weird, you know, like,
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low blood sugar feeling, and I,
uh, I don't know what it was.
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ERIK:We have what we believeto be safe practices here,
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but there are
no guarantees here,
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and no one knows that
better then Tom.
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TRAVIS: You guys got all
the measurements
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that y'all were planning
to take up here, right?
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We got a good surveillance of
the entire ranch at this point.
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We get back down to the truck,
we can dive into our results,
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take a little deeper look
at that,
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and then, uh, we can get
some further analysis
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and try to look
at some deeper details.
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00:18:05,501 --> 00:18:06,751
Let's‐let's go look at that.
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00:18:06,752 --> 00:18:08,592
‐I'm‐I'm good for that.
‐Sounds good to me.
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00:18:08,588 --> 00:18:10,758
Everyone be safe going down.
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TRAVIS:I'm convinced thatwhatever came over me
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while I was down in that cavehad nothing to do
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with oxygen deprivationor toxic gas levels.
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00:18:17,763 --> 00:18:20,683
Our oxygen meter was indicatingthere was plenty of air,
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00:18:20,683 --> 00:18:22,483
but then, all of a sudden,
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the batteries
in our cell phones go dead.
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Boom. Just like that.
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SNOWDER:We've seen some stuffthat we expected to see,
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some stuff that
we didn't expect to see.
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Our concern seems to be around
these underground emissions,
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that's where we're seeing
the most of these phenomenons.
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I want to tell you we're‐we're
still gonna be looking
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‐for more holes to crawl into
and more things...
‐Sure.
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...to dig into and look under
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and‐and‐and it's possible
we'll uncover
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something that's dangerous.
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‐Right?
‐Correct.
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SNOWDER:
In some of the confined spaces,
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those are areas
you might want to be
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aware of when you're
working in those areas,
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but in the open area
and‐and the ranch and so forth,
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00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:58,050
uh, nothing of concern.
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00:18:58,054 --> 00:19:00,224
It's okay to walk around out
here, we're not getting cooked,
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00:19:00,222 --> 00:19:02,182
but we might find
some weird transient things.
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00:19:02,183 --> 00:19:03,983
‐Absolutely.
‐And in that hole,
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‐there's something
that we can't explain yet?
‐Right.
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00:19:05,978 --> 00:19:08,558
So, in summary
on the radiation exposure
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is one of the things
we haven't figured out
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across the entire ranch,
and we don't know this,
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00:19:13,027 --> 00:19:15,487
um, is the exact levels of that.
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00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:17,488
So we brought something
for your guys's team
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that'll kind of watch you guys
on an individual level.
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00:19:20,201 --> 00:19:22,201
This is a dosimeter.
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00:19:22,203 --> 00:19:25,043
This is gonna primarily work
from a radiological perspective.
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If you're getting
above the normal
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background radiation exposure,
we want to know.
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00:19:29,043 --> 00:19:30,713
It's looking for stuff
that you are,
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immediately, your body is in.
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00:19:32,171 --> 00:19:34,091
So anything that's
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really in the window
of harmful to humans,
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00:19:37,009 --> 00:19:38,429
or impactful to humans,
447
00:19:38,427 --> 00:19:40,217
our instrumentation sets
will see.
448
00:19:40,221 --> 00:19:42,931
Okay, guys, so we'll
hand these out to you guys.
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00:19:42,932 --> 00:19:45,022
‐Travis, there's yours.
‐Thank you, man. Thank you.
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‐Erik, here's yours.
‐TRAVIS: These dosimeters
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will work like a canaryin a coal mine.
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They're gonna be very helpfulin alerting us if we run into
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any more sudden bursts
of harmful radiation.
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00:19:55,069 --> 00:19:58,239
We'll lead you out
and escort you off the ranch.
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00:19:58,239 --> 00:20:00,199
Thank you again.
Appreciate all your time.
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00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:02,699
‐We'll pack up our stuff
and we will be ready to roll.
‐Okay, sounds great.
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THOMAS:Well, here we are,your second time on,
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day two and we're already
experiencing more crazy stuff.
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00:20:16,590 --> 00:20:19,050
Crazy, I was not expecting
that at all.
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00:20:19,051 --> 00:20:22,681
I got sick and I felt weird
and‐and lightheaded and dizzy.
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00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,770
The ranch has always
responded, uh, to new visitors.
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00:20:25,766 --> 00:20:27,636
I didn't expect it
to be this quick, though.
463
00:20:27,643 --> 00:20:29,903
I didn't expect to see anything,
so this is amazing.
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00:20:29,895 --> 00:20:31,515
(chuckles)
Doesn't surprise me, though.
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00:20:31,522 --> 00:20:33,732
I mean, you know,
where the sinkhole sits
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is right up above Homestead 2,
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00:20:35,776 --> 00:20:39,736
which has been
the reported site of a lot
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00:20:39,739 --> 00:20:42,909
of this paranormal activity
that Bigelow's team reported.
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00:20:42,908 --> 00:20:44,868
TRAVIS:Oh.
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In 2016,
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I purchased Skinwalker Ranch
from Robert Bigelow.
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00:20:50,416 --> 00:20:54,086
Robert Bigelow is best known asthe billionaire entrepreneur,
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real estate developerand now aerospace entrepreneur.
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Mr. Bigelowalso had an interest
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00:21:00,134 --> 00:21:02,264
in everything from UFOs
476
00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:04,761
to the paranormal.
477
00:21:04,764 --> 00:21:06,774
In the early '90s,
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00:21:06,766 --> 00:21:09,266
Robert Bigelow boughtSkinwalker Ranch.
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00:21:09,268 --> 00:21:11,598
His team conducted
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a very aggressivescientific investigation.
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The Bigelow team ended up
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having all sorts of
strange things happen.
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They started seeingeverything from
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electromagnetic anomalies
485
00:21:24,617 --> 00:21:26,487
centered aroundthe old homesteads,
486
00:21:26,494 --> 00:21:28,624
cattle mutilations...
487
00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:30,791
It involves the full gamut
488
00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:35,040
of unexplained phenomenathat we continue to monitor.
489
00:21:35,044 --> 00:21:37,964
Most of what Mr. Bigelow
and his team
490
00:21:37,963 --> 00:21:40,343
studied and reported
on the ranch
491
00:21:40,341 --> 00:21:44,471
remains either classified
or confidential
492
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:46,140
and is locked away.
493
00:21:50,184 --> 00:21:51,854
You guys got everything?
494
00:21:51,852 --> 00:21:53,152
‐TRAVIS: Yep.
‐All right.
495
00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:54,975
If we don't,
it's a long way back.
496
00:21:54,980 --> 00:21:56,320
‐(laughter)
‐TRAVIS: Later that day,
497
00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:57,895
after we got the "all clear"
498
00:21:57,900 --> 00:21:59,650
that the ranchwas safe to explore...
499
00:21:59,652 --> 00:22:01,492
Dragon, I guess
I'll ride with you.
500
00:22:01,487 --> 00:22:03,987
...Dragon, Jim Segala,Tom Winterton and I
501
00:22:03,989 --> 00:22:05,409
decided to doa good old‐fashioned
502
00:22:05,407 --> 00:22:06,737
stakeout near the mesa.
503
00:22:08,035 --> 00:22:10,155
From what I've observed,the mesa is pretty much
504
00:22:10,162 --> 00:22:12,252
ground zero for mostof the strange activity
505
00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:14,038
that's been happeningon the ranch.
506
00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:17,001
So we're all hoping that,by staying up all night,
507
00:22:17,002 --> 00:22:20,092
we'll be able to seeand record firsthand
508
00:22:20,089 --> 00:22:21,759
the strange lightsand glowing effects
509
00:22:21,757 --> 00:22:23,677
that people have reportedseeing over the years.
510
00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:24,836
This a good as spot as any.
511
00:22:24,844 --> 00:22:26,854
This is perfect‐‐
we see the mesa,
512
00:22:26,846 --> 00:22:29,716
the moon's gonna be giving us
some backlighting.
513
00:22:29,723 --> 00:22:31,683
Let's start grabbing stuff out
and putting it up.
514
00:22:37,231 --> 00:22:38,861
Let's start hooking up
the experiments.
515
00:22:38,858 --> 00:22:40,688
I want the telescope up.
516
00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:43,363
Get the sound system set up.
517
00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:46,372
We have a lot ofdiagnostic equipment.
518
00:22:46,365 --> 00:22:48,075
We can measure
radio and microwaves,
519
00:22:48,075 --> 00:22:49,785
we can measure magnetic field,
520
00:22:49,785 --> 00:22:51,195
we can measure infrared.
521
00:22:51,203 --> 00:22:53,373
We've got a lotof different things
522
00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:54,542
that we're going to use tonigt
523
00:22:54,540 --> 00:22:56,210
and, uh, see whatwe can find out.
524
00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:57,628
Hey, what movie are we watching?
525
00:22:57,626 --> 00:22:59,246
Aliens? Predator? What?
526
00:22:59,253 --> 00:23:01,263
We're gonna hook
the cameras up to it,
527
00:23:01,255 --> 00:23:02,965
so we can look at it
on the big screen.
528
00:23:02,965 --> 00:23:04,295
Cool.
529
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:07,220
THOMAS:So, the 512 acres of the ranch
530
00:23:07,219 --> 00:23:09,719
are under 24‐hour
video surveillance
531
00:23:09,722 --> 00:23:13,852
by dozens of securityand surveillance cameras,
532
00:23:13,851 --> 00:23:17,061
and Erik keeps track of thesearound the clock and is able
533
00:23:17,062 --> 00:23:19,362
to view themfrom the command center.
534
00:23:19,356 --> 00:23:21,276
Hey, Erik. Are you there?
535
00:23:21,275 --> 00:23:22,735
ERIK:Copy, yeah.
536
00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:23,895
Okay, so you can see us, then?
537
00:23:23,903 --> 00:23:26,283
I can see everythingyou're doing.
538
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,160
TRAVIS:Erik Bard makes surethat pretty much
539
00:23:29,158 --> 00:23:31,738
every inch of this ranch iscovered by a camera somewhere.
540
00:23:31,744 --> 00:23:33,754
Although he can pretty much se
541
00:23:33,746 --> 00:23:36,246
everything we're doing tonightfrom the command center,
542
00:23:36,248 --> 00:23:38,788
he won't be able to getthe kind of close‐up images
543
00:23:38,792 --> 00:23:40,632
and information we can get.
544
00:23:40,628 --> 00:23:42,958
And he certainly wouldn't
be able to investigate it
545
00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:44,423
as quickly as we can.
546
00:23:44,423 --> 00:23:47,433
(insects trilling)
547
00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:50,386
TRAVIS:
Let's bring the lights down now.
548
00:23:50,387 --> 00:23:52,887
And let's start looking
at the mesa in the infrared.
549
00:23:54,808 --> 00:23:56,138
That is so cool.
550
00:23:56,143 --> 00:23:58,693
BRYANT:
That is really cool.
551
00:23:58,687 --> 00:24:01,147
TRAVIS:As humans, we're only ableto see light
552
00:24:01,148 --> 00:24:02,608
in a relatively narrow spectrum.
553
00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:03,938
But by using an infrared camera,
554
00:24:03,943 --> 00:24:05,443
we're gonna be able
to see things
555
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,114
that are further out
on that spectrum
556
00:24:07,112 --> 00:24:09,452
that we otherwisemight not be able to see
557
00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,868
with our naked eyes.
558
00:24:11,867 --> 00:24:14,237
‐That's amazing.
‐Isn't that awesome?
559
00:24:14,244 --> 00:24:15,664
‐That's‐that's a good view
right there. Look at that.
‐Wow.
560
00:24:15,663 --> 00:24:16,833
BRYANT:
Yeah, that's really good view.
561
00:24:17,873 --> 00:24:19,293
Hey, Jim's got the laser.
562
00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:20,631
‐There we are.
‐SEGALA: So, I'm gonna go
563
00:24:20,626 --> 00:24:22,126
walk out here with the laser.
564
00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:23,627
TRAVIS:
Yep. Yep.
565
00:24:23,629 --> 00:24:26,259
‐SEGALA: You ready?
‐Yep.
566
00:24:26,256 --> 00:24:29,466
SEGALA:We brought a very large
567
00:24:29,468 --> 00:24:31,798
green laser that allows us to
568
00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:35,314
light up a beamall the way up to the mesa.
569
00:24:35,307 --> 00:24:36,677
You can put the laser spot
right there,
570
00:24:36,684 --> 00:24:38,064
then I'll look
right at the spot.
571
00:24:38,060 --> 00:24:39,310
SEGALA:
I'll come out here
so I don't hurt anybody.
572
00:24:39,311 --> 00:24:41,981
That way, we can focusour infrared cameras
573
00:24:41,981 --> 00:24:44,481
on that spot so we know
exactly where we are.
574
00:24:44,483 --> 00:24:46,823
Perfect. Right there.
575
00:24:46,819 --> 00:24:48,319
THOMAS:
There it is.
576
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,950
TRAVIS: Hold on.
Is that...? There's two.
577
00:24:50,990 --> 00:24:52,370
Look.
578
00:24:52,366 --> 00:24:53,446
Do that again.
579
00:24:54,576 --> 00:24:56,326
THOMAS:
How is it doing that?
580
00:24:58,163 --> 00:24:59,713
SEGALA:When we shined
581
00:24:59,707 --> 00:25:02,327
the laser on the mesa and saw it
582
00:25:02,334 --> 00:25:04,254
in the image of the camera,
583
00:25:04,253 --> 00:25:07,843
we also noticed there wasa smaller image just above it.
584
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,800
TRAVIS:
That is so weird.
585
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,510
‐SEGALA: What the heck is that?
‐TRAVIS: You know what it is,
586
00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:13,850
it's reflecting off
of the surface.
587
00:25:13,846 --> 00:25:15,306
THOMAS:
How is it doing that?
588
00:25:21,478 --> 00:25:23,558
The actual laser spot
that is coming back
589
00:25:23,564 --> 00:25:25,364
and hitting the camera
is the little one.
590
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,569
We need to go up there
and look at it.
591
00:25:28,569 --> 00:25:30,489
Hey, Erik, do you copy?
592
00:25:30,487 --> 00:25:32,107
‐I do.
‐You interested in going
593
00:25:32,114 --> 00:25:33,494
up on the mesa,
594
00:25:33,490 --> 00:25:34,870
while these guys sit back
and monitor it?
595
00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:36,197
You bet.
596
00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:37,541
Well, let's go get Erik
and let's head up there.
597
00:25:40,039 --> 00:25:41,499
BRYANT:
You ready, man?
598
00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:42,538
ERIK:
Yep, let's do it.
599
00:25:42,541 --> 00:25:43,541
BRYANT:
Okay, let's go.
600
00:25:55,471 --> 00:25:58,891
TRAVIS:
Gotta turn my headlamp on.
601
00:25:58,891 --> 00:26:00,141
All right, let's go.
602
00:26:00,142 --> 00:26:03,102
♪ ♪
603
00:26:07,649 --> 00:26:11,239
TRAVIS:
It's like walking on Mars
or something.
604
00:26:11,236 --> 00:26:14,906
The rocks and the soil ofthe Skinwalker Ridge mesa
605
00:26:14,907 --> 00:26:16,447
have an extremely high amount
606
00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:17,950
of some kind ofcrystalline material.
607
00:26:17,951 --> 00:26:19,621
So I'm wondering
608
00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:21,750
if there's a reflectionhappening up on the mesa
609
00:26:21,747 --> 00:26:23,577
that's causing the laser beam
610
00:26:23,582 --> 00:26:26,132
to split into two pointsof light instead of one.
611
00:26:26,126 --> 00:26:31,626
There are these
little white disks everywhere.
612
00:26:31,632 --> 00:26:33,682
I don't know what it is.
613
00:26:33,675 --> 00:26:35,675
You are getting
pretty close to that laser.
614
00:26:35,677 --> 00:26:38,007
You'll have to startmaking a descent.
615
00:26:45,104 --> 00:26:48,444
TRAVIS:
I'm gonna turn
and sit right here.
616
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,820
All right?
617
00:26:49,817 --> 00:26:51,817
And now I am going
to kill this light.
618
00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:57,664
All right.
619
00:26:57,658 --> 00:27:00,198
BRYANT:
Does the laser seem like
it lost intensity?
620
00:27:01,912 --> 00:27:03,622
TRAVIS:
The laser's lost power.
621
00:27:03,622 --> 00:27:06,252
Whoa, where'd that laser go?
622
00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:07,460
TRAVIS:
And it went out.
623
00:27:07,459 --> 00:27:08,499
ERIK:
And it went out, just now.
624
00:27:08,502 --> 00:27:09,922
TRAVIS:
Radio back to them and ask 'em
625
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,300
if they're doing something
to the laser.
626
00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:12,586
Hey, Travis?
627
00:27:12,589 --> 00:27:14,799
TRAVIS:Yeah, go ahead, Jim.
628
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,300
So, we're‐‐
before the light went out,
629
00:27:17,302 --> 00:27:18,472
the laser light went out,
630
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:20,680
you were standing exactly whee
631
00:27:20,681 --> 00:27:24,181
the main glow of the laser was
632
00:27:24,184 --> 00:27:25,524
on the screen.
633
00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:26,979
TRAVIS:Really?
634
00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:29,019
SEGALA:That's correct.
635
00:27:29,022 --> 00:27:30,442
I'll go back up there
636
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,070
‐and see what's going on.
‐Hold on, guys.
637
00:27:46,456 --> 00:27:49,326
THOMAS:I just replaced the batteriesin this laser.
638
00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:51,344
There's no waythat it's the batteries
639
00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:52,706
that are causing itto malfunction.
640
00:27:52,713 --> 00:27:54,553
I tried everything
641
00:27:54,548 --> 00:27:56,218
to get itto come back on again,
642
00:27:56,216 --> 00:27:58,586
but it's just one of
those million things
643
00:27:58,594 --> 00:28:00,354
that happens
at Skinwalker Ranch.
644
00:28:00,345 --> 00:28:02,965
The button's pushed in
and everything.
645
00:28:02,973 --> 00:28:04,683
It‐It's dead.
646
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:06,853
SEGALA:Hey, Travis?
647
00:28:06,852 --> 00:28:08,522
Yeah. Go ahead, Jim.
648
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,310
SEGALA:The laser is dead.
649
00:28:12,357 --> 00:28:14,357
TRAVIS:I think it's crazy
650
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:15,859
that as soon as we got here,
651
00:28:15,861 --> 00:28:17,571
the laser went out.
652
00:28:17,571 --> 00:28:20,031
Hardly the first time something
like that's happened here.
653
00:28:20,032 --> 00:28:22,332
Unfortunately, it's typical.
654
00:28:22,326 --> 00:28:23,366
TRAVIS:
All right, guys.
655
00:28:23,368 --> 00:28:25,198
I think we've seen enough here.
656
00:28:25,203 --> 00:28:27,543
BRYANT:
Let's carefully make our way
back down the ridge.
657
00:28:27,539 --> 00:28:29,369
Carefully.
658
00:28:29,374 --> 00:28:32,384
TRAVIS:The laser experimentwas inconclusive,
659
00:28:32,377 --> 00:28:35,547
but what we did discover
with this experiment
660
00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:37,547
is that the mesa
is highly reflective.
661
00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:40,259
Now, that's interesting,
662
00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:42,100
especially sincewe've seen in the past
663
00:28:42,095 --> 00:28:44,765
the mesa seeming to glow
664
00:28:44,765 --> 00:28:50,055
and there being beams of lightcoming up from the mesa.
665
00:28:50,062 --> 00:28:51,612
There's something to this place,
666
00:28:51,605 --> 00:28:52,765
I just don't know what it is.
667
00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:55,073
Whoa, look at that.
668
00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:56,687
Holy crap.
669
00:28:56,693 --> 00:28:57,903
What is that?
670
00:28:57,903 --> 00:29:01,163
That reflective flickering.
671
00:29:06,828 --> 00:29:08,288
THOMAS:
Hey, guys, we just noticed
672
00:29:08,288 --> 00:29:09,918
on the screen here a second ago.
673
00:29:09,915 --> 00:29:12,415
Do you see the glow?
The flicker?
674
00:29:12,417 --> 00:29:13,837
Up behind there.
675
00:29:13,835 --> 00:29:15,165
TRAVIS:
Yeah.
676
00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:16,710
It's flickering.
677
00:29:16,713 --> 00:29:18,173
Kind of flashing behind it
or something.
678
00:29:18,173 --> 00:29:20,933
What does it look like
on infrared?
679
00:29:22,928 --> 00:29:26,768
TRAVIS:
It looks like the whole top
of the mountain is glowing.
680
00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:28,805
BRYANT:
Yeah, it's almost like
the outline of it.
681
00:29:28,809 --> 00:29:29,939
TRAVIS:
Wow.
682
00:29:29,935 --> 00:29:32,765
I mean,
it's clearly doing something.
683
00:29:32,771 --> 00:29:34,981
It kind of looks like,
uh, the...
684
00:29:34,982 --> 00:29:36,612
(low growling)
685
00:29:36,608 --> 00:29:37,648
Did you hear that?
686
00:29:37,651 --> 00:29:38,861
(low growling)
687
00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:40,490
Yeah.
688
00:29:40,487 --> 00:29:43,157
Like a growl or something.
689
00:29:43,156 --> 00:29:44,156
Yeah.
690
00:29:46,994 --> 00:29:48,914
It was right over there.
691
00:29:48,912 --> 00:29:51,422
Right?
692
00:29:53,625 --> 00:29:56,125
TRAVIS:Being out here in thewilderness, it's not unusual
693
00:29:56,128 --> 00:29:58,338
to hear growlsand strange noises and stuff.
694
00:29:58,338 --> 00:30:00,298
It could befrom a mountain lion
695
00:30:00,298 --> 00:30:03,138
or a coyoteor even a pack of wild dogs.
696
00:30:05,137 --> 00:30:08,467
Look, the top looks less
like a silhouette now
697
00:30:08,473 --> 00:30:10,313
than it did before.
698
00:30:10,308 --> 00:30:11,518
It's‐it's right here, right?
699
00:30:11,518 --> 00:30:13,148
Yeah.
700
00:30:13,145 --> 00:30:14,475
TRAVIS:Till I came to the ranch,
701
00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:16,149
I didn't really believethe stories I'd heard
702
00:30:16,148 --> 00:30:18,728
about strange lightscoming off the mesa.
703
00:30:18,734 --> 00:30:21,744
Now I'm seeing this thing glowat night with my own eyes.
704
00:30:21,737 --> 00:30:23,237
This isn't just a story,
705
00:30:23,238 --> 00:30:26,528
this isn't some special effector a hoax.
706
00:30:26,533 --> 00:30:28,663
This mesa is really glowing.
707
00:30:28,660 --> 00:30:30,410
You know what we should do,
708
00:30:30,412 --> 00:30:31,832
is we should scan
across the mesa
709
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:33,370
and see if we see something else
710
00:30:33,373 --> 00:30:34,883
with the, with the camera.
711
00:30:34,875 --> 00:30:36,835
Well, we better hurry, 'cause
the sun's gonna be up soon.
712
00:30:36,835 --> 00:30:39,085
The sun is coming up soon.
713
00:30:39,087 --> 00:30:40,337
Yeah, all right.
714
00:30:40,338 --> 00:30:43,678
Well, let's do that.
715
00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:47,295
Let's go...
pan to the west first.
716
00:30:47,304 --> 00:30:48,354
BRYANT:
Look at that.
717
00:30:48,346 --> 00:30:49,846
THOMAS:
See how the top of that's...
718
00:30:49,848 --> 00:30:51,848
TRAVIS: Yeah, the top's glowing
like crazy. Look at that.
719
00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:53,350
BRYANT: It's like the whole
top of the ridge
720
00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:54,691
‐is outlined in chalk.
‐Wait, wait, wait, wait.
721
00:30:54,686 --> 00:30:56,686
‐All right.
‐So...
722
00:30:56,688 --> 00:30:58,398
TRAVIS:
Look, it's flashing.
Look, it is flashing
723
00:30:58,398 --> 00:31:00,278
behind that big‐time.
724
00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:03,065
That cloud is pulsing
like crazy.
725
00:31:05,947 --> 00:31:07,367
Look at that.
726
00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:08,735
The interesting thing is
727
00:31:08,742 --> 00:31:12,162
is it almost looks like
it's a lot more defined here
728
00:31:12,162 --> 00:31:14,372
‐than it is with the naked eye.
‐TRAVIS: Yeah. Oh!
729
00:31:14,372 --> 00:31:15,422
Look, look.
730
00:31:15,415 --> 00:31:16,915
Did you see that?
731
00:31:16,917 --> 00:31:19,167
THOMAS:
That's a definite beam. Whoa.
732
00:31:19,169 --> 00:31:20,999
It was like a beam that came
right up from the ground.
733
00:31:21,004 --> 00:31:22,054
THOMAS:
It's gone now.
734
00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:23,377
TRAVIS:
Did you guys see that?
735
00:31:23,381 --> 00:31:25,761
‐Yeah, yeah, yeah.
‐Did you see that?
736
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:27,299
‐Jim, you weren't looking.
‐BRYANT: Look,
there it is again.
737
00:31:27,302 --> 00:31:29,052
THOMAS:
Oh, there it is.
738
00:31:29,054 --> 00:31:30,564
TRAVIS:We're looking back and forthat the infrared camera
739
00:31:30,555 --> 00:31:32,305
and then back and forthat the mesa
740
00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:36,477
to see what's going on and then
we notice out of the ground,
741
00:31:36,478 --> 00:31:38,898
in front of the mesa,
this beam comes up
742
00:31:38,897 --> 00:31:41,227
through the sky
and tracks something.
743
00:31:41,233 --> 00:31:43,153
‐There it is!
‐There it is again.
744
00:31:43,151 --> 00:31:44,611
It is clearly a beam
going across there.
745
00:31:44,611 --> 00:31:46,821
There is something clearly
over the ridge.
746
00:31:46,822 --> 00:31:48,122
BRYANT:
Do you think that's coming
from behind?
747
00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:49,525
THOMAS:
What is that?
748
00:31:52,619 --> 00:31:54,999
‐That time,
did you see it sweep?
‐Well,
749
00:31:54,996 --> 00:31:59,126
and you can't see anything
from looking out of here.
750
00:31:59,126 --> 00:32:00,876
It's only in infrared.
751
00:32:00,877 --> 00:32:02,707
TRAVIS:So, we're out here on the mesa,
752
00:32:02,712 --> 00:32:06,012
investigating the strangelights and the glowing effects
753
00:32:06,007 --> 00:32:07,927
that other people have beenreporting over the years.
754
00:32:07,926 --> 00:32:11,176
What's interesting is thatwe can't see these light beams
755
00:32:11,179 --> 00:32:13,519
when we look at the mesawith our naked eyes.
756
00:32:13,515 --> 00:32:16,385
We can only see themwith the infrared camera.
757
00:32:16,393 --> 00:32:18,903
We should be looking
in that direction
758
00:32:18,895 --> 00:32:21,055
to see what we can come up with.
759
00:32:21,064 --> 00:32:22,774
Right now while
something's happening.
760
00:32:25,861 --> 00:32:27,651
BRYANT:
What are we doing with this?
761
00:32:27,654 --> 00:32:29,414
SEGALA:
What we're attempting to do
762
00:32:29,406 --> 00:32:33,026
is measure electromagnetic
energy or frequencies.
763
00:32:33,034 --> 00:32:36,624
And what this board
will allow us to do
764
00:32:36,621 --> 00:32:40,751
is to isolate to one single
direction or one plane.
765
00:32:40,750 --> 00:32:43,710
TRAVIS:We need to find out ifthe glowing effect we can see
766
00:32:43,712 --> 00:32:46,092
on the infrared monitor isconnected to any kind of RF‐‐
767
00:32:46,089 --> 00:32:48,679
or radio frequency‐‐ radiatio.
768
00:32:48,675 --> 00:32:51,465
This experiment will help usdetermine the direction
769
00:32:51,469 --> 00:32:53,179
of the radiationthat we're detecting now
770
00:32:53,180 --> 00:32:56,060
and maybe help us findthe direction of the source.
771
00:32:56,057 --> 00:33:00,517
All right, so I would say we
hold it up about waist‐high.
772
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,770
Right about‐‐ that's good.
773
00:33:01,771 --> 00:33:03,061
‐Now, Jim, there you go.
‐Here.
774
00:33:03,064 --> 00:33:05,484
All right.
775
00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:07,653
Sweep. There you go, good.
776
00:33:07,652 --> 00:33:09,612
And keep sweeping‐‐
it starts dropping off.
777
00:33:09,613 --> 00:33:11,533
‐Right?
‐(meter whining)
778
00:33:11,531 --> 00:33:13,621
TRAVIS:The TriField metersare little RF radios
779
00:33:13,617 --> 00:33:15,037
with a little antenna
780
00:33:15,035 --> 00:33:17,535
just like your FM and AM radio
in your car
781
00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:19,657
or at home or wherever.
It's a tuner.
782
00:33:19,664 --> 00:33:22,254
Yep, it's dropping, so it's not
coming from that direction.
783
00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:23,420
So, let's go the other way.
784
00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:24,838
Rotate the other way now.
785
00:33:24,836 --> 00:33:26,546
TRAVIS:And this thing is set to listen
786
00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:27,876
to, like,all the channels at once
787
00:33:27,881 --> 00:33:29,221
and just measure the signal.
788
00:33:29,216 --> 00:33:34,046
It's coming from right at
where we saw that flash.
789
00:33:34,054 --> 00:33:36,434
Keep coming around.
790
00:33:36,431 --> 00:33:38,521
All right,
now it's dropped off again.
791
00:33:38,516 --> 00:33:40,846
TRAVIS:The interesting thing is
792
00:33:40,852 --> 00:33:44,312
when we pointed the RF meterin a certain direction
793
00:33:44,314 --> 00:33:45,944
with the reflector behind it,
794
00:33:45,941 --> 00:33:47,281
it maxed out.
795
00:33:47,275 --> 00:33:48,775
That tells us kind of
the direction
796
00:33:48,777 --> 00:33:50,777
the big fields are coming from.
797
00:33:50,779 --> 00:33:52,529
I mean, it's coming
from that direction
798
00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,990
where we saw that beam.
799
00:33:54,991 --> 00:33:56,621
That's pretty significant
right there.
800
00:33:56,618 --> 00:33:58,448
Well, it's at least concerning.
801
00:33:58,453 --> 00:34:00,913
We're measuring nearly ten
milliwatts per meter squared.
802
00:34:00,914 --> 00:34:04,134
TRAVIS:The microwave spikesthat we're reading
803
00:34:04,125 --> 00:34:06,125
are getting on the level of
804
00:34:06,127 --> 00:34:09,457
standing by the microwave
a few feet with the door open,
805
00:34:09,464 --> 00:34:11,094
but it's still working.
806
00:34:11,091 --> 00:34:12,801
That's dangerous levels.
807
00:34:12,801 --> 00:34:15,011
Yeah, what was that beam
that we saw?
808
00:34:15,011 --> 00:34:16,181
TRAVIS:
What was that beam?
809
00:34:16,179 --> 00:34:18,389
There is something here,
810
00:34:18,390 --> 00:34:20,100
on this ranch,
811
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:23,400
that's broadcasting microwaves
and at times,
812
00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:26,355
reached powers that's like
a microwave oven.
813
00:34:26,356 --> 00:34:29,066
And it's not Wi‐Fi, it's not...
814
00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:31,147
‐normal transmission.
‐TRAVIS: It's not cell phones,
815
00:34:31,152 --> 00:34:33,662
it's not‐‐ yeah,
it's‐it's something different.
816
00:34:33,655 --> 00:34:37,155
All of this is real unusual.
817
00:34:37,158 --> 00:34:38,578
That's... To me, it's amazing.
818
00:34:38,576 --> 00:34:39,906
(Thomas exhales)
819
00:34:45,375 --> 00:34:46,915
TRAVIS:
Tom, you all right?
820
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,800
THOMAS:
My head is killing me.
821
00:34:50,797 --> 00:34:52,257
‐BRYANT: Is it?
‐Yeah, right‐right here.
822
00:34:52,257 --> 00:34:53,547
‐BRYANT: In that spot?
‐In the exact same spot,
823
00:34:53,550 --> 00:34:55,470
my head is‐is hurting bad.
824
00:34:55,468 --> 00:34:57,388
SEGALA:
Here, sit down.
825
00:34:57,387 --> 00:35:00,217
THOMAS:
It just‐‐ it just,
it's just right here, like,
826
00:35:00,223 --> 00:35:01,853
it's right‐right here.
827
00:35:01,850 --> 00:35:04,190
BRYANT:
That's not all right.
828
00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:06,095
It's just throbbing.
829
00:35:06,104 --> 00:35:09,274
‐Like, that section right there.
‐Is that‐‐ is that the‐‐
830
00:35:09,274 --> 00:35:10,534
is that the pain?
831
00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:12,065
SEGALA:
That's the exact same spot.
832
00:35:12,068 --> 00:35:13,898
THOMAS:
No, it's not
the same pain I felt,
833
00:35:13,903 --> 00:35:17,123
‐but it's, like, throbbing bad.
‐It's the same spot, though.
834
00:35:17,115 --> 00:35:19,525
Well, let's get you the heck
out of here, man.
835
00:35:19,534 --> 00:35:21,624
I'm serious.
836
00:35:25,081 --> 00:35:26,461
‐Right now.
‐Yep, yep, yep.
837
00:35:28,251 --> 00:35:29,381
BRYANT:
Come on, dude.
838
00:35:29,377 --> 00:35:31,127
‐Let's go.
‐Come on.
839
00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:37,304
THOMAS:
Damn it.
840
00:35:37,302 --> 00:35:39,302
BRYANT:
That's nothing to (bleep) with.
841
00:35:39,304 --> 00:35:41,974
TRAVIS:I'm extremely worriedabout Thomas right now.
842
00:35:41,973 --> 00:35:45,813
I have no idea how seriousthis injury could be.
843
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:48,770
SEGALA:
So, I wonder if anybody else
got affected.
844
00:35:48,772 --> 00:35:50,982
TRAVIS:
I don't know.
845
00:35:50,982 --> 00:35:54,032
They almost lost Thomas once
out here before I got here
846
00:35:54,027 --> 00:35:55,947
and now I get hereand we do an experiment.
847
00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:57,815
I would hate to think thatI did something that put him
848
00:35:57,822 --> 00:35:59,122
in harm's way.
849
00:35:59,115 --> 00:36:00,405
SEGALA:
Uh, this is serious, you know?
850
00:36:00,408 --> 00:36:02,198
TRAVIS:
Yeah.
851
00:36:02,202 --> 00:36:04,252
I was not expecting to get that
right at the end of the night.
852
00:36:04,245 --> 00:36:06,455
SEGALA:
This could be life‐threatening.
853
00:36:06,456 --> 00:36:11,126
TRAVIS:
He should... he should go
to the emergency room, I think.
854
00:36:13,213 --> 00:36:16,303
THOMAS:
Just over a little bit,
like, right‐right there.
855
00:36:16,299 --> 00:36:18,929
‐TRAVIS: Dragon?
Tom? Where are you?
‐BRYANT: Yeah.
856
00:36:18,927 --> 00:36:20,507
He's in here.
857
00:36:20,512 --> 00:36:21,682
THOMAS:
Right there.
858
00:36:24,933 --> 00:36:27,193
THOMAS: Does it seem like
it's swelled up any?
859
00:36:29,062 --> 00:36:30,442
It's a knot?
860
00:36:30,438 --> 00:36:32,898
So, when‐‐ out there,
it was right here,
861
00:36:32,899 --> 00:36:36,699
and now it's just right here.
862
00:36:36,695 --> 00:36:38,605
SEGALA:
Yep, there is,
863
00:36:38,613 --> 00:36:40,823
there is that same fluid
from last time.
864
00:36:40,824 --> 00:36:43,284
Dude, you need to go
get that checked right now.
865
00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:44,374
I'm serious.
866
00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:45,909
Like, right now.
867
00:36:45,912 --> 00:36:47,752
SEGALA:
I think you should
call your wife.
868
00:36:47,747 --> 00:36:49,707
TRAVIS:
He needs to be in the car,
right now,
869
00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:51,458
on the way
to the emergency room.
870
00:36:51,459 --> 00:36:53,959
TRAVIS:We're not playing a game here.
871
00:36:53,962 --> 00:36:56,012
This happened, we saw phenomena
872
00:36:56,005 --> 00:36:57,625
and the same symptoms
are occurring
873
00:36:57,632 --> 00:36:59,722
when it put him
in the hospital for a week,
874
00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:02,928
and there's no reason for usto talk about it any further.
875
00:37:02,929 --> 00:37:05,099
(engine starts)
876
00:37:13,648 --> 00:37:17,238
It's bizarre. I don't know
what to say about it. Bizarre.
877
00:37:17,235 --> 00:37:20,355
Bizarre is not the word.
It's scary.
878
00:37:20,363 --> 00:37:22,913
I think I should probably
call Brandon.
879
00:37:29,789 --> 00:37:33,129
(line ringing)
880
00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:40,220
BRYANT:
Hey, Brandon.
881
00:37:40,216 --> 00:37:42,466
So, I've got Erik here with me.
882
00:37:42,469 --> 00:37:44,429
It's kind of an urgent matter
I wanted to talk to you about
883
00:37:44,429 --> 00:37:45,639
real quick.
884
00:37:45,638 --> 00:37:47,928
So, as you know,
885
00:37:47,932 --> 00:37:49,852
we had the team out last night.
886
00:37:49,851 --> 00:37:52,561
We were finishing up
our last experiment,
887
00:37:52,562 --> 00:37:56,902
and we started picking up
really heavy RF signals
888
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:59,240
and things like that
like we have previously.
889
00:37:59,235 --> 00:38:02,855
And, uh, all of the sudden,
890
00:38:02,864 --> 00:38:05,454
Tom Winterton...
891
00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:07,950
started saying
that he had a headache
892
00:38:07,952 --> 00:38:10,082
and then reached back to the
spot on the back of his head
893
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,999
where he previously
had his serious injury
894
00:38:12,999 --> 00:38:15,129
and said that he was
having pain there again.
895
00:38:16,628 --> 00:38:19,958
I mean, it was apparent that
we really couldn't risk things.
896
00:38:19,964 --> 00:38:23,094
So, Kaleb actually grabbed him
897
00:38:23,092 --> 00:38:26,142
and drove him to the emergency
room to have more testing.
898
00:38:30,350 --> 00:38:32,640
Yeah, dude, it has me
rattled as (bleep).
899
00:38:34,687 --> 00:38:36,227
ERIK:
I think it is.
900
00:38:36,231 --> 00:38:38,271
I want to understand what's
going on but not at the expense
901
00:38:38,274 --> 00:38:39,944
of more episodes like this.
902
00:38:39,943 --> 00:38:42,153
I don't know that we did
anything that would trigger it.
903
00:38:42,153 --> 00:38:44,953
We shined lights on
the damn mesa, we did nothing...
904
00:38:44,948 --> 00:38:46,908
‐Yeah.
‐...that would do it.
905
00:38:46,908 --> 00:38:49,288
That's what kills me, Brandon.
I‐I'm armed to the teeth
906
00:38:49,285 --> 00:38:52,285
and I feel like I might as well
be carrying a flyswatter.
907
00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:57,628
I don't‐‐ I mean, it's‐it's
beyond frustrating to me.
908
00:38:57,627 --> 00:38:59,997
All I know
909
00:39:00,004 --> 00:39:02,014
is that people are getting hurt
and we've got to figure out
910
00:39:02,006 --> 00:39:04,006
why the hell that is happening.
911
00:39:11,641 --> 00:39:13,231
I think that's a good idea.
912
00:39:14,686 --> 00:39:15,806
I will. See you.
913
00:39:17,981 --> 00:39:22,151
BRANDON: What we've learnedat Skinwalker Ranch
914
00:39:22,151 --> 00:39:25,281
is if you don'tapproach the ranch
915
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,030
with a degree of humilityand reverence and care,
916
00:39:30,034 --> 00:39:32,084
bad things happen.
917
00:39:33,288 --> 00:39:35,158
ERIK:Did what happened to Tom happen
918
00:39:35,164 --> 00:39:36,884
as a result of an experiment?
919
00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:40,625
I think the right strategy
920
00:39:40,628 --> 00:39:43,168
is to observe better.
921
00:39:43,172 --> 00:39:47,052
BRYANT:The fact that Thomashas suffered another injury
922
00:39:47,051 --> 00:39:50,011
related to the onethat almost took his life,
923
00:39:50,013 --> 00:39:52,393
it makes me put in question
924
00:39:52,390 --> 00:39:55,060
if any of us
should even be here anymore.
925
00:39:55,059 --> 00:39:58,519
TRAVIS:Before I came hereto Skinwalker Ranch,
926
00:39:58,521 --> 00:40:01,861
I really didn't believethe stories I'd heard.
927
00:40:01,858 --> 00:40:05,738
UFOs, cattle mutilations,
928
00:40:05,737 --> 00:40:07,697
shape‐shifting animals...
929
00:40:07,697 --> 00:40:10,027
It all seemed too bizarre.
930
00:40:10,033 --> 00:40:13,243
But now that I've been hereand seen things firsthand,
931
00:40:13,244 --> 00:40:16,084
I can't shake the feelingthat something very strange
932
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,920
really is happening here.
933
00:40:17,916 --> 00:40:20,586
What's causing it?
934
00:40:20,585 --> 00:40:22,165
Where is it coming from?
935
00:40:22,170 --> 00:40:23,880
I don't know.
936
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,340
But the bigger questionis this: is it dangerous?
937
00:40:28,343 --> 00:40:29,893
It's making me think:
938
00:40:29,886 --> 00:40:33,716
are we putting ourselves
at risk just being here?
939
00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:43,270
BRANDON:I wanted to get out hereas soon as I could.
940
00:40:43,274 --> 00:40:44,404
Lights on the mesa,
941
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,570
Tom's injuries‐‐
these things are real.
942
00:40:46,569 --> 00:40:48,779
BRYANT:Something's causedso much interference
943
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:52,120
that a $35,000 drone couldn'tconnect to its controls.
944
00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:53,406
It means there's a transmitter
here somewhere.
945
00:40:53,409 --> 00:40:54,619
Where is this transmitter?
946
00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:56,449
I get my biggest readings
looking up.
947
00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:57,964
TRAVIS:
It's coming from the sky.
948
00:40:57,956 --> 00:40:59,826
TOM: In the basement,there's a weird room.
949
00:40:59,832 --> 00:41:01,582
What is that?
950
00:41:01,584 --> 00:41:02,844
We need to see
what's really in there.
951
00:41:05,129 --> 00:41:06,839
ERIK:
It could be human remains.
952
00:41:06,839 --> 00:41:09,839
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