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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:59,401 --> 00:01:01,170 Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker 2 00:01:01,203 --> 00:01:04,306 were the most famous televangelist couple in America, 3 00:01:04,340 --> 00:01:06,376 and, by far, the most prosperous. 4 00:01:06,409 --> 00:01:08,711 Ken and Barbie of televangelism. 5 00:01:08,743 --> 00:01:10,212 And they seemed honest. 6 00:01:10,246 --> 00:01:13,216 They brought encouragement and hope to lots of people. 7 00:01:13,249 --> 00:01:14,350 He's the president 8 00:01:14,383 --> 00:01:15,852 of a multi-million dollar religious organization 9 00:01:15,885 --> 00:01:17,687 called the Praise The Lord Club. 10 00:01:17,719 --> 00:01:19,855 PTL also operates Heritage Village 11 00:01:19,888 --> 00:01:21,590 in Fort Mill, South Carolina. 12 00:01:21,624 --> 00:01:22,859 ...Christian Disney World 13 00:01:22,891 --> 00:01:25,627 where PTL members can vacation with inspiration. 14 00:01:25,660 --> 00:01:27,397 They are among the best-known figures 15 00:01:27,430 --> 00:01:28,965 in the world of television evangelism. 16 00:01:28,998 --> 00:01:31,267 But tonight they are out of business. 17 00:01:31,299 --> 00:01:32,534 ...following the scandal that led 18 00:01:32,567 --> 00:01:34,469 to founder Jim Bakker's resignation last week. 19 00:01:34,502 --> 00:01:35,704 There's debate about how much 20 00:01:35,737 --> 00:01:37,239 the Bakker scandal will hurt 21 00:01:37,272 --> 00:01:38,440 all the television ministries 22 00:01:38,474 --> 00:01:39,341 and quiet concern... 23 00:01:39,374 --> 00:01:41,543 Modern warfare among the TV preachers. 24 00:01:41,576 --> 00:01:43,579 In this electronic age, the stakes are high 25 00:01:43,612 --> 00:01:44,980 - with millions of followers... - ...and recriminations. 26 00:01:45,013 --> 00:01:45,914 And caught up in the fighting 27 00:01:45,948 --> 00:01:47,849 are their fellow evangelists Jimmy Swaggart, 28 00:01:47,883 --> 00:01:49,452 Oral Roberts, Jerry Falwell. 29 00:01:49,484 --> 00:01:50,787 Now, about what some people around here 30 00:01:50,820 --> 00:01:52,321 are calling "pearly-gate." 31 00:01:52,355 --> 00:01:54,990 Pearly-gate is the story of Jim and Tammy Bakker. 32 00:01:55,023 --> 00:01:56,858 It's remarkably like Watergate, 33 00:01:56,891 --> 00:02:00,429 which tainted the name "politician," 34 00:02:00,463 --> 00:02:05,568 and such an episode is bound to taint the name "preacher." 35 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,737 The Bakkers couldn't even get out of their car. 36 00:02:07,769 --> 00:02:09,304 There were so many people waiting to see them 37 00:02:09,338 --> 00:02:10,172 after three months of seclusion. 38 00:02:10,206 --> 00:02:11,374 ...busloads of tourists, 39 00:02:11,406 --> 00:02:14,010 hoping to get a glimpse of the elusive evangelists, 40 00:02:14,042 --> 00:02:16,645 but they had no better luck than the waiting newspeople. 41 00:02:20,916 --> 00:02:23,987 Okay, I'm gonna start by taking some of this off. 42 00:02:24,019 --> 00:02:25,487 Okay. 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,290 Gonna take your foundation off. 44 00:02:27,322 --> 00:02:28,457 M'kay. 45 00:02:28,490 --> 00:02:31,293 And then we'll start fresh. 46 00:02:31,327 --> 00:02:32,696 Can you take your lips off? 47 00:02:39,601 --> 00:02:41,370 - Okay. - Do you want a little remover? 48 00:02:41,404 --> 00:02:44,974 Oh, no. That's it. 49 00:02:45,006 --> 00:02:47,010 That'll be all. They're permanently lined. 50 00:02:47,042 --> 00:02:48,543 Oh. 51 00:02:48,577 --> 00:02:50,046 And my eyes are permanently lined 52 00:02:50,078 --> 00:02:51,913 and my eyebrows are permanently on, 53 00:02:51,947 --> 00:02:54,751 so there's not a whole lot you can do. 54 00:02:54,784 --> 00:02:56,019 My goodness, 55 00:02:56,052 --> 00:02:58,287 - I... I didn't know. - Mm. 56 00:02:58,321 --> 00:03:00,056 Have you never done pictures without those eyelashes? 57 00:03:00,089 --> 00:03:01,457 Nope, and I never will 58 00:03:01,489 --> 00:03:02,891 because that's my trademark. 59 00:03:02,924 --> 00:03:06,529 And, you know, if I take that away, then it's not me, 60 00:03:06,561 --> 00:03:08,498 and no one's gonna wanna look at me without my trademark. 61 00:03:08,530 --> 00:03:09,798 So, I hold onto that. 62 00:03:09,832 --> 00:03:11,501 Even if we softened 'em up and kept... 63 00:03:11,534 --> 00:03:14,370 No. No, you can do anything you want, 64 00:03:14,403 --> 00:03:17,006 but my eyelashes stay right where they are. 65 00:03:17,038 --> 00:03:18,740 That's really you. 66 00:03:18,774 --> 00:03:20,043 Mm. 67 00:03:20,076 --> 00:03:22,945 Oh, yeah, this is who I am. 68 00:03:38,693 --> 00:03:41,831 I didn't know what the words "glory" or "hallelujah" be 69 00:03:41,863 --> 00:03:43,732 because the devil is all around us! 70 00:03:43,766 --> 00:03:44,867 Oh, yes, he is! 71 00:03:44,900 --> 00:03:47,602 And it's up to you to resist his temptations. Hallelujah! 72 00:03:48,738 --> 00:03:50,473 If you're not saved by Jesus, 73 00:03:50,506 --> 00:03:52,675 you open yourself up to demons 74 00:03:52,708 --> 00:03:56,079 and the devil will make a home in you! 75 00:03:56,112 --> 00:03:57,547 Glory to God! 76 00:03:57,579 --> 00:03:58,880 When God spoke peace to my heart, 77 00:03:58,913 --> 00:04:01,617 I didn't know how to say glory or hallelujah, 78 00:04:01,649 --> 00:04:03,418 but I got saved! 79 00:04:03,452 --> 00:04:05,020 I leapt upon that altar. 80 00:04:05,054 --> 00:04:07,123 Jesus told me He loved me, 81 00:04:07,155 --> 00:04:09,825 and He will love you. 82 00:04:10,793 --> 00:04:13,929 He speaks through her. Say, "Hallelujah!" 83 00:04:13,963 --> 00:04:15,731 Hallelujah! 84 00:04:15,764 --> 00:04:18,668 She is with the Holy Spirit right now! 85 00:04:18,700 --> 00:04:20,636 Feel the spirit! Say, "Glory. 86 00:04:21,137 --> 00:04:22,572 "Glory to God." 87 00:04:22,604 --> 00:04:23,839 Glory to God! 88 00:04:23,873 --> 00:04:26,642 You too, sister! Feel the spirit. 89 00:04:26,675 --> 00:04:28,445 Raise your hands up, folks. 90 00:04:30,546 --> 00:04:32,014 I was here. 91 00:04:32,046 --> 00:04:33,715 Here the whole time. 92 00:04:33,748 --> 00:04:36,151 Little girls go to Hell for lying. 93 00:04:36,185 --> 00:04:37,920 Honest and true. 94 00:04:37,952 --> 00:04:39,522 I wanna be saved. 95 00:04:40,923 --> 00:04:42,425 If you let me come in with you, 96 00:04:42,457 --> 00:04:44,594 God'd love me like He's supposed to. 97 00:04:44,627 --> 00:04:46,529 There's reasons you can't be seen in church, Tam. 98 00:04:46,562 --> 00:04:48,464 Grown-up reasons. 99 00:04:48,497 --> 00:04:50,567 Is it because everyone thinks you're a harlot? 100 00:04:52,534 --> 00:04:53,402 And I come from a time 101 00:04:53,435 --> 00:04:55,104 before Fred made you respectable and stuff. 102 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,940 Only reason they let me back 103 00:04:58,974 --> 00:05:01,411 is 'cause nobody but me can play the piano. 104 00:05:01,444 --> 00:05:03,980 But you remind them I was divorced. 105 00:05:04,012 --> 00:05:06,114 They see you, 106 00:05:06,147 --> 00:05:07,916 all of us is going to be banished. 107 00:05:09,452 --> 00:05:11,487 The souls of all your brothers and sisters 108 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:13,923 burning in Hell because you don't listen 109 00:05:13,955 --> 00:05:15,924 and you can't sit still. 110 00:05:22,731 --> 00:05:24,166 Stop performing. 111 00:05:28,170 --> 00:05:30,473 You're going to Hell, Tammy. 112 00:05:30,505 --> 00:05:33,809 You don't belong here. You don't belong anywhere. 113 00:05:33,842 --> 00:05:35,510 You're ugly. 114 00:05:35,543 --> 00:05:38,514 You've got a demon inside you. 115 00:05:38,546 --> 00:05:40,549 But I don't wanna go to Hell. 116 00:05:41,384 --> 00:05:42,985 If they loved you, 117 00:05:43,017 --> 00:05:44,753 they wouldn't leave you here. 118 00:05:45,553 --> 00:05:46,955 They love me. 119 00:05:46,988 --> 00:05:49,159 They love you not. 120 00:05:52,661 --> 00:05:55,498 Jesus, come into my heart 121 00:05:55,531 --> 00:05:58,201 and forgive me my sins. 122 00:05:58,233 --> 00:06:01,637 I don't know what this is everybody's getting, 123 00:06:01,670 --> 00:06:02,806 but if it's real, 124 00:06:03,305 --> 00:06:05,474 then, please, Jesus, 125 00:06:05,507 --> 00:06:06,909 give that to me. 126 00:06:09,211 --> 00:06:11,180 Amen! 127 00:06:11,212 --> 00:06:14,049 Be strong in the Lord and His mighty power. 128 00:06:14,082 --> 00:06:15,650 Put on the armor of God 129 00:06:15,683 --> 00:06:16,818 so that you can take your stand 130 00:06:16,851 --> 00:06:18,721 against the devil's schemes. 131 00:06:18,753 --> 00:06:21,690 For our struggle isn't against flesh and blood, 132 00:06:21,724 --> 00:06:24,760 but against the powers of this dark world! 133 00:06:24,793 --> 00:06:26,662 Casting down imaginations 134 00:06:26,695 --> 00:06:30,199 on every high thing that exalts itself. 135 00:06:30,231 --> 00:06:32,200 - Do you feel love? - Yes. 136 00:06:32,233 --> 00:06:34,169 You feel it, sister! I know you feel it! 137 00:06:35,271 --> 00:06:37,139 You too, brother? 138 00:06:37,171 --> 00:06:38,740 If you feel the love, 139 00:06:38,774 --> 00:06:40,543 - say, "Hallelujah!" - Hallelujah! 140 00:06:40,575 --> 00:06:43,144 - Say, "Glory to God!" - Glory to God! 141 00:06:43,178 --> 00:06:44,647 Accept the blood! 142 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,215 Feel love forever! 143 00:06:46,248 --> 00:06:47,550 Hallelujah! 144 00:06:47,582 --> 00:06:49,584 Praise the Lord! 145 00:06:49,618 --> 00:06:51,120 Are you ready to accept the love? 146 00:06:51,786 --> 00:06:52,921 Yes. 147 00:07:07,803 --> 00:07:08,937 Tammy Faye! 148 00:07:11,139 --> 00:07:14,310 I'm so sorry. I'm so, so sorry. 149 00:07:16,077 --> 00:07:18,147 No, Tammy! 150 00:07:18,180 --> 00:07:20,149 Tammy, get up. 151 00:07:20,582 --> 00:07:22,752 He is with us! 152 00:07:22,784 --> 00:07:24,686 She's peeing herself! Praise God! 153 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,656 Yes! 154 00:07:26,688 --> 00:07:28,823 - Tammy, I said get up. - Shush now. 155 00:07:28,856 --> 00:07:31,760 This baby is a miracle. Don't you take her from us. 156 00:07:37,632 --> 00:07:38,868 Mr. Bakker? 157 00:07:39,300 --> 00:07:40,969 Yes, sir? 158 00:07:42,904 --> 00:07:43,940 Thank you. 159 00:07:51,380 --> 00:07:53,850 Um, sorry. 160 00:07:56,185 --> 00:07:58,087 I would like to start with a verse. 161 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:03,726 "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper 162 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:07,797 "and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth." 163 00:08:07,829 --> 00:08:09,264 That is John 3, verse 2, 164 00:08:09,298 --> 00:08:12,134 and it's written right here in the good book. 165 00:08:12,166 --> 00:08:14,303 He gave me this verse last night. 166 00:08:14,336 --> 00:08:17,306 God, He came right down and He whispered it in my ear. 167 00:08:17,339 --> 00:08:19,108 He said, "Jim Bakker, 168 00:08:19,140 --> 00:08:22,712 "I intend for you to thrive, 169 00:08:22,745 --> 00:08:25,180 "to live, and to love 170 00:08:25,214 --> 00:08:27,183 "in this life." 171 00:08:27,216 --> 00:08:28,317 He said it to me. 172 00:08:28,349 --> 00:08:30,786 But us Christians, 173 00:08:30,819 --> 00:08:33,889 we've been taught that we're supposed to 174 00:08:33,921 --> 00:08:36,325 expect failure. 175 00:08:37,993 --> 00:08:39,328 When Jesus calls you home, 176 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:40,996 you think you're going to get a bonus 177 00:08:41,030 --> 00:08:43,132 if you make yourself miserable? 178 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,401 You think if you deny yourself indoor plumbing, 179 00:08:46,435 --> 00:08:48,003 or if you don't have shoes 180 00:08:48,036 --> 00:08:49,939 on your feet... 181 00:08:51,073 --> 00:08:52,608 I'm... I'm sorry. 182 00:08:55,411 --> 00:08:56,613 Go ahead. 183 00:08:59,848 --> 00:09:01,317 You know, Heaven, 184 00:09:01,349 --> 00:09:03,385 Heaven is heaven, that is for sure. 185 00:09:03,419 --> 00:09:06,122 But God's hope for us 186 00:09:06,155 --> 00:09:10,092 is that we live and we thrive and we love here 187 00:09:10,124 --> 00:09:11,326 in the promised land. 188 00:09:11,359 --> 00:09:12,994 Here and now. 189 00:09:13,027 --> 00:09:16,965 Here and now, and in this very, very moment. 190 00:09:16,998 --> 00:09:18,233 Hallelujah! 191 00:09:18,267 --> 00:09:20,969 God does not want us to be poor! 192 00:09:21,002 --> 00:09:22,838 Oh, no! 193 00:09:22,871 --> 00:09:26,175 He will gift the faithful with eternal life, 194 00:09:26,208 --> 00:09:29,310 eternal love, and eternal wealth! 195 00:09:29,344 --> 00:09:33,082 Hallelujah! Praise God! Praise Him! 196 00:09:36,050 --> 00:09:37,353 Be right to remember, 197 00:09:37,386 --> 00:09:40,055 "Blessed be the poor," Mr. Bakker. 198 00:09:40,089 --> 00:09:42,224 Doesn't sound very blessed to me. 199 00:09:45,761 --> 00:09:49,331 You two are here to learn the ways of the Lord through scripture, yeah? 200 00:09:49,363 --> 00:09:50,398 Yes, sir. 201 00:09:50,431 --> 00:09:51,466 And to spread the word of God. 202 00:09:51,499 --> 00:09:52,700 Oh, yeah. You know, 203 00:09:52,734 --> 00:09:55,003 I'm gonna sing the word in every tent, in every church. 204 00:09:55,036 --> 00:09:57,906 You know, God told me that that's what He wants for me. 205 00:09:59,842 --> 00:10:01,678 With makeup on your face? 206 00:10:02,612 --> 00:10:04,814 Ahem. Jezebel. 207 00:10:10,252 --> 00:10:12,088 "I do my best to maintain always 208 00:10:12,121 --> 00:10:13,189 "a blameless conscience, 209 00:10:13,222 --> 00:10:15,425 "both before God and before men." 210 00:10:17,459 --> 00:10:19,762 "A man who keeps company with harlots 211 00:10:20,963 --> 00:10:22,363 "wastes his wealth." 212 00:10:22,397 --> 00:10:24,934 Proverbs 29:3. 213 00:10:24,967 --> 00:10:29,171 "Your stature is like that of a palm and your breasts 214 00:10:29,204 --> 00:10:30,506 "like clusters of fruit. 215 00:10:30,539 --> 00:10:32,875 "I will take hold of the palm tree." 216 00:10:32,907 --> 00:10:36,278 "And I will take hold of the fruit." 217 00:10:37,445 --> 00:10:39,147 That's the Song of Solomon. 218 00:10:39,180 --> 00:10:41,216 7:7. 219 00:10:45,052 --> 00:10:48,156 I'm sorry I couldn't drive you someplace nice. 220 00:10:48,190 --> 00:10:50,760 Oh, this is someplace nice, Jim. 221 00:10:51,594 --> 00:10:53,429 Tell me something. Tell me a secret. 222 00:10:53,461 --> 00:10:55,196 Something that no one else knows about. 223 00:10:55,229 --> 00:10:56,264 Oh, I have no secrets. 224 00:10:56,297 --> 00:10:57,767 I'll tell you anything you wanna know. 225 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:58,968 We'll start with everything. 226 00:11:00,902 --> 00:11:02,470 Okay. 227 00:11:02,503 --> 00:11:03,906 I'm the oldest of eight children 228 00:11:03,939 --> 00:11:05,841 and I'm a very practical person. 229 00:11:05,873 --> 00:11:07,343 And what you see is all there is of me. 230 00:11:07,376 --> 00:11:09,111 You know, I don't pretend to be something I'm not 231 00:11:09,143 --> 00:11:10,879 because what you see is all you get. 232 00:11:10,912 --> 00:11:12,514 And I love people. 233 00:11:12,547 --> 00:11:16,017 I have a genuine, genuine love for people. 234 00:11:16,050 --> 00:11:18,286 And I hurt when people hurt, 235 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,522 and probably a little more dramatic than people would like me to be. 236 00:11:20,555 --> 00:11:24,526 But I enjoy that. That's just who I am. 237 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:27,162 I've never met anyone quite like you, Tammy Faye. 238 00:11:29,998 --> 00:11:31,233 Okay. 239 00:11:31,266 --> 00:11:34,504 So, um, do you have any secrets, Jim? 240 00:11:35,469 --> 00:11:38,206 Well, one or two. 241 00:11:39,107 --> 00:11:41,010 Well, tell me. 242 00:11:41,042 --> 00:11:45,180 Well, before God found me, I wanted to be a radio deejay. 243 00:11:46,581 --> 00:11:48,583 - No. - Yes. 244 00:11:48,617 --> 00:11:52,221 I used to love to make people dance. 245 00:11:52,253 --> 00:11:54,156 Have fun. 246 00:11:54,189 --> 00:11:56,392 Little Richard. 247 00:11:56,425 --> 00:11:58,060 And Buddy Holly and... 248 00:11:58,594 --> 00:12:00,162 Oh, and Fats Domino. 249 00:12:02,196 --> 00:12:04,166 What happened? Why didn't you do it, Jim? 250 00:12:04,199 --> 00:12:05,233 Ah. 251 00:12:06,068 --> 00:12:07,870 Never mind that. 252 00:12:07,902 --> 00:12:08,904 Tell me. 253 00:12:10,104 --> 00:12:12,140 Um, I don't think... 254 00:12:14,609 --> 00:12:18,046 Well, all right. I'll tell you, Tammy. Um... 255 00:12:18,079 --> 00:12:20,148 Two years ago, I was on a date 256 00:12:20,181 --> 00:12:21,517 with my girlfriend, Sandy, and... 257 00:12:21,550 --> 00:12:22,918 - Mm. - Oh, no, 258 00:12:22,950 --> 00:12:24,619 with my girlfriend at the time. 259 00:12:24,652 --> 00:12:26,254 - Mm. - But, anyhoo, 260 00:12:26,287 --> 00:12:27,623 I borrowed my daddy's car to take her out, 261 00:12:27,656 --> 00:12:31,926 and there was all this snow on the ground 262 00:12:31,959 --> 00:12:36,397 and Fats was singing Blueberry Hill 263 00:12:36,430 --> 00:12:37,867 so loud 264 00:12:39,401 --> 00:12:41,270 and I... I was having these urges 265 00:12:41,302 --> 00:12:43,538 that only the devil would approve of 266 00:12:43,571 --> 00:12:46,341 and I lost control of the car. 267 00:12:49,645 --> 00:12:52,348 And I ran over a little boy, 268 00:12:52,381 --> 00:12:53,983 little Jimmy Summerfield. 269 00:12:54,849 --> 00:12:57,151 I ruptured Jimmy Summerfield's lung... 270 00:12:57,185 --> 00:12:59,588 ...with my daddy's tire. 271 00:12:59,621 --> 00:13:01,090 I didn't sleep all night. 272 00:13:01,123 --> 00:13:03,892 I was just up worried sick about that boy dying. 273 00:13:03,925 --> 00:13:05,393 So, I... 274 00:13:05,426 --> 00:13:07,363 I made a bargain with God. 275 00:13:07,396 --> 00:13:09,064 I said to Him, 276 00:13:09,097 --> 00:13:11,333 "I will forsake my dream of being a deejay. 277 00:13:11,366 --> 00:13:16,138 "I will stop peddling in rock and roll 278 00:13:16,171 --> 00:13:20,441 "and I'll dedicate my life to Him and Him alone. 279 00:13:20,474 --> 00:13:23,378 "If He sees fit to save that boy's life, 280 00:13:23,411 --> 00:13:26,949 "He will win two souls right then and there." 281 00:13:28,983 --> 00:13:30,652 And what happened to Jimmy Summerfield? 282 00:13:31,652 --> 00:13:32,921 He lived. 283 00:13:32,954 --> 00:13:34,323 - Oh. - Yes. 284 00:13:34,355 --> 00:13:36,357 - Praise be to God. - Yes, praise Him. 285 00:13:39,161 --> 00:13:40,296 So... 286 00:13:42,164 --> 00:13:44,199 You still like me? 287 00:13:44,232 --> 00:13:47,169 Oh, sure, I do, Jim. 288 00:13:47,201 --> 00:13:50,405 Oh, even more now that you were honest with me. 289 00:13:52,674 --> 00:13:54,076 I'll tell ya, I do miss dancing. 290 00:13:57,012 --> 00:14:00,016 * I found my thrill 291 00:14:01,450 --> 00:14:05,186 * On Blueberry Hill 292 00:14:06,287 --> 00:14:09,392 * I found my thrill 293 00:14:11,126 --> 00:14:14,228 * When I found you * 294 00:14:14,262 --> 00:14:15,464 You're so loud. 295 00:14:16,263 --> 00:14:17,365 Dance with me, Jim. 296 00:14:18,132 --> 00:14:19,401 Here? No, I can't. 297 00:14:19,434 --> 00:14:22,004 In front of all these people? Like, no... 298 00:14:22,036 --> 00:14:23,138 Please? 299 00:14:26,742 --> 00:14:30,445 * The moon stood still 300 00:14:30,478 --> 00:14:34,450 * On Blueberry Hill 301 00:14:34,483 --> 00:14:38,286 * And lingered until 302 00:14:39,253 --> 00:14:43,024 * My dreams came true * 303 00:14:51,366 --> 00:14:53,235 Oh, we can't. 304 00:14:53,267 --> 00:14:54,436 I know. 305 00:15:00,408 --> 00:15:02,077 - We can't. - I know. 306 00:15:05,747 --> 00:15:09,185 Oh. Oh, we can't. 307 00:15:11,152 --> 00:15:12,153 I know. 308 00:15:16,458 --> 00:15:17,493 Yeah! 309 00:15:19,527 --> 00:15:21,095 What'd you do? 310 00:15:21,128 --> 00:15:23,599 Hello, Mother. This is Jim Bakker, 311 00:15:23,632 --> 00:15:25,401 my husband. 312 00:15:25,434 --> 00:15:27,603 Hello, Mother. 313 00:15:27,636 --> 00:15:32,174 Oh, it's such a blessing to finally meet you. 314 00:15:39,214 --> 00:15:40,349 No. 315 00:15:40,382 --> 00:15:42,084 No, Mother, we can't go back to school. 316 00:15:42,117 --> 00:15:44,453 They have a rule against students marrying one another. 317 00:15:44,485 --> 00:15:46,354 Did you know they had that rule when you did this? 318 00:15:46,387 --> 00:15:49,425 If I know the two of you, you're just gonna love Jim. 319 00:15:49,458 --> 00:15:50,692 Oh, he's so motivated. 320 00:15:50,724 --> 00:15:52,527 He has so many big ideas. 321 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,396 Did you know? 322 00:16:05,272 --> 00:16:08,509 Well, you can educate yourself right out of a relationship with God. 323 00:16:08,542 --> 00:16:10,445 He has a plan for us. 324 00:16:10,478 --> 00:16:13,748 - God or that Jim boy? - God. 325 00:16:13,781 --> 00:16:15,584 What'd He tell ya to do this time? 326 00:16:15,617 --> 00:16:19,421 Come spring, me and Jim are going to be traveling preachers, 327 00:16:19,454 --> 00:16:21,123 bringing God's love to all people. 328 00:16:21,156 --> 00:16:24,093 Anyone who's hurting or they feel like they've been left out. 329 00:16:24,126 --> 00:16:25,828 Jim will preach and I'll sing. 330 00:16:25,860 --> 00:16:29,297 And we'll be like Oral Roberts and his wife. 331 00:16:29,330 --> 00:16:31,532 Oral Roberts went to college. 332 00:16:31,565 --> 00:16:34,570 He has one named for him. 333 00:16:34,603 --> 00:16:36,637 God said that we're supposed to have a good life. 334 00:16:36,671 --> 00:16:39,208 That way, we can help bring his love to all people. 335 00:16:39,241 --> 00:16:41,710 There's a limit to God's love, Tammy Faye. 336 00:16:42,643 --> 00:16:44,113 No. 337 00:16:44,146 --> 00:16:48,317 No, there's no limit to God's love, Mrs. Grover, 338 00:16:48,349 --> 00:16:51,420 and there's no limit to Tammy Faye and I either. 339 00:16:51,453 --> 00:16:53,122 We're soldiers in Christ. 340 00:16:53,155 --> 00:16:55,791 We've been called to serve in a very real way. 341 00:16:55,824 --> 00:16:57,859 God smiles on a husband and wife. 342 00:16:57,892 --> 00:17:00,461 "As a young man marries a young woman, 343 00:17:00,494 --> 00:17:03,132 "so will your Builder marry you; 344 00:17:03,164 --> 00:17:06,734 "as a bridegroom rejoices in his bride, 345 00:17:06,767 --> 00:17:09,805 "so will your God rejoice in you." 346 00:17:09,837 --> 00:17:12,406 Isaiah 62:5. 347 00:17:14,575 --> 00:17:16,344 It's something we do. 348 00:17:28,690 --> 00:17:31,427 Fred said that we could stay until the weather changes. 349 00:17:32,928 --> 00:17:34,330 Got some bubbles at the swap meet. 350 00:17:39,366 --> 00:17:41,269 I'm sorry, Tam. 351 00:17:42,938 --> 00:17:45,174 I feel like I'm letting you down. 352 00:17:46,307 --> 00:17:49,177 She doesn't like me. 353 00:17:49,210 --> 00:17:51,680 - No, Jim. - No, she doesn't. 354 00:17:52,814 --> 00:17:55,183 Of course she likes you. 355 00:17:58,420 --> 00:17:59,522 Oh. 356 00:18:04,258 --> 00:18:07,662 It makes Tammy sad to see you so sad. 357 00:18:09,264 --> 00:18:10,599 How's there supposed to be bubbles 358 00:18:10,632 --> 00:18:13,302 if there isn't enough water to work up the bubbles? 359 00:18:13,334 --> 00:18:16,337 Oh, I can work up the bubbles, Jim. 360 00:18:16,371 --> 00:18:19,475 All I gotta do is dunk my hand. 361 00:18:21,642 --> 00:18:24,246 And I swirl... 362 00:18:29,551 --> 00:18:31,520 And swirl. 363 00:18:37,392 --> 00:18:38,794 Am I doing that all right? 364 00:18:38,826 --> 00:18:40,661 Uh-huh. 365 00:18:53,275 --> 00:18:55,611 Well, hello there, Tammy Faye. 366 00:18:57,379 --> 00:18:58,947 Hello, Mommy. 367 00:18:58,979 --> 00:19:00,949 What are you doing with those things? 368 00:19:00,981 --> 00:19:03,285 Well, we're gonna use these puppets as part of our sermon 369 00:19:03,317 --> 00:19:04,952 and show the kids how wonderful God is. 370 00:19:04,986 --> 00:19:06,688 And if we can get enough children to come, 371 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,022 they'll bring their mothers and their fathers. 372 00:19:08,055 --> 00:19:10,359 And before you know it, we'll have our own church. 373 00:19:14,863 --> 00:19:17,833 Have you counted your blessings today, Tammy Faye? 374 00:19:17,865 --> 00:19:20,035 No, not yet, Susie. 375 00:19:20,067 --> 00:19:23,738 Time to count your blessings, for they are plentiful. 376 00:19:23,771 --> 00:19:27,375 Okay, well, thank you for my husband. 377 00:19:27,409 --> 00:19:31,513 Oh, you're so welcome, Tammy. 378 00:19:31,546 --> 00:19:35,651 And thank you for Mother's understanding, even if she doesn't understand. 379 00:19:35,683 --> 00:19:38,253 Oh. You're welcome. 380 00:19:39,888 --> 00:19:42,424 And thank you, God, for love. 381 00:19:59,641 --> 00:20:00,676 Hmm. 382 00:20:07,348 --> 00:20:10,318 Jim! Whose car is this? 383 00:20:11,686 --> 00:20:13,355 No. 384 00:20:13,388 --> 00:20:16,391 Get in. Get in. Come on. 385 00:20:16,423 --> 00:20:18,392 Okay. 386 00:20:18,426 --> 00:20:20,429 Roll that window up. I got the heat on. 387 00:20:21,595 --> 00:20:22,963 This fine vehicle 388 00:20:22,997 --> 00:20:25,967 with the leather interior and the chrome on the wheels 389 00:20:25,999 --> 00:20:29,771 is a gift from God for us to do His work. 390 00:20:32,973 --> 00:20:35,609 But how can we afford it, Jim Bakker? 391 00:20:36,844 --> 00:20:38,646 Who is this? 392 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,082 I'm Susie Moppet. 393 00:20:40,114 --> 00:20:43,684 Aren't you cute? Well, do you know about God, Susie? 394 00:20:43,718 --> 00:20:44,686 Oh, I do. 395 00:20:44,719 --> 00:20:48,055 Well, God has cancelled the claim of poverty 396 00:20:48,088 --> 00:20:49,924 and deprivation in our lives 397 00:20:49,958 --> 00:20:52,794 and He has placed all the powers of heaven 398 00:20:52,826 --> 00:20:55,063 and the First Bank of International Falls, 399 00:20:55,095 --> 00:20:57,632 Minnesota, at our disposal. 400 00:20:57,664 --> 00:20:59,667 Oh. 401 00:21:03,671 --> 00:21:07,042 Oh, this is the nicest car I've ever seen, Jim. 402 00:21:07,075 --> 00:21:10,077 "Everything works for good for them that love God." 403 00:21:10,111 --> 00:21:12,113 Everything. 404 00:21:12,146 --> 00:21:15,383 But you have to have faith in Him 405 00:21:15,417 --> 00:21:18,453 and in me and in us, 'cause if you don't, 406 00:21:18,486 --> 00:21:20,088 I don't know what I'm doing here. 407 00:21:20,121 --> 00:21:22,123 - Oh, I do, Jim. - You do? 408 00:21:24,459 --> 00:21:25,693 Does she, Susie? 409 00:21:26,861 --> 00:21:28,563 Oh, she do, Jim! 410 00:21:28,595 --> 00:21:31,833 She really, really do! 411 00:21:41,176 --> 00:21:43,078 You sure... 412 00:21:43,111 --> 00:21:45,814 It's all right here. In Psalm 37:4. 413 00:21:45,846 --> 00:21:47,982 "Take delight in the Lord 414 00:21:48,016 --> 00:21:52,053 "and He will give you your heart's desires." 415 00:21:52,085 --> 00:21:55,790 God starts turning those wheels in your life! 416 00:21:55,824 --> 00:21:57,057 You better believe it! 417 00:21:57,091 --> 00:21:59,828 - Oh, now who is this? - Oh, I'm Susie Moppet. 418 00:21:59,861 --> 00:22:01,563 Well, hello there, Susie Moppet. 419 00:22:01,595 --> 00:22:02,963 Hi! Nice to meet you! 420 00:22:04,565 --> 00:22:06,768 She jumped up. 421 00:22:07,568 --> 00:22:09,703 * Yes, Jesus loves me 422 00:22:09,737 --> 00:22:11,506 * Yes, Jesus loves me 423 00:22:11,538 --> 00:22:13,007 * Yes, Jesus loves me 424 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,911 * The Bible tells me so * 425 00:22:16,944 --> 00:22:19,547 Hitch up your wagon to God. 426 00:22:19,581 --> 00:22:21,483 He's greater than any problem. 427 00:22:21,516 --> 00:22:22,883 Us Christians, we're just stuck in the mud 428 00:22:22,917 --> 00:22:24,886 like that old game. Remember that old kids' game? 429 00:22:24,919 --> 00:22:27,088 God wants us just to run free. 430 00:22:31,558 --> 00:22:33,561 Well, this is a fun song, boys and girls. 431 00:22:33,594 --> 00:22:35,063 So, hit it, Allie. 432 00:22:35,095 --> 00:22:36,464 * Jesus loves me 433 00:22:36,498 --> 00:22:39,468 * This I know For the Bible tells me so 434 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:41,569 * Yes, Jesus loves me 435 00:22:41,603 --> 00:22:44,006 * The Bible tells me so * 436 00:22:47,208 --> 00:22:49,110 You're watching Pat Robertson 437 00:22:49,142 --> 00:22:50,946 on the Christian Broadcasting Network. 438 00:22:50,978 --> 00:22:51,846 Come on. 439 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,216 Season all your grain offerings... 440 00:22:54,248 --> 00:22:55,816 Oh, come on! 441 00:22:55,850 --> 00:22:58,119 - Okay, okay, okay. - ...with salt. 442 00:22:58,151 --> 00:23:01,155 Do not leave the salt of the covenant of your God 443 00:23:01,189 --> 00:23:03,123 out of your grain offerings. 444 00:23:03,157 --> 00:23:04,593 Add salt 445 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,294 to all your offerings. 446 00:23:06,327 --> 00:23:10,065 You know, he's not terribly dynamic for a charismatic. 447 00:23:10,097 --> 00:23:11,832 I know, but people just eat him up. 448 00:23:11,865 --> 00:23:14,502 ...focus on the foundation. 449 00:23:14,536 --> 00:23:15,937 - Tammy, did you see that? - Hmm? 450 00:23:15,969 --> 00:23:18,507 Watch close. Every now and again, 451 00:23:18,539 --> 00:23:20,575 he glances up at the camera. 452 00:23:20,607 --> 00:23:23,677 It is upon Him that you can place your strong... 453 00:23:23,710 --> 00:23:25,012 - See that? - You're right. 454 00:23:25,046 --> 00:23:28,917 He's talking right to you in the comfort of your living room. 455 00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:31,119 Well, if I could have watched a preacher 456 00:23:31,151 --> 00:23:34,523 on TV in my own home telling me about God, 457 00:23:34,555 --> 00:23:36,290 that would've made such a difference. 458 00:23:36,324 --> 00:23:38,893 Mm. Amen. 459 00:23:38,927 --> 00:23:43,231 Especially from someone who preaches as good as you do, Jim. 460 00:23:45,667 --> 00:23:47,269 - You think? - Oh, yeah. 461 00:23:47,302 --> 00:23:49,971 ...blow your home over? 462 00:23:50,004 --> 00:23:51,540 You know, we could do that. 463 00:23:53,074 --> 00:23:56,545 You're so much more handsome than he is. 464 00:23:57,745 --> 00:23:58,914 Keep calling. 465 00:23:58,947 --> 00:24:00,148 Gotta do my homework, baby. 466 00:24:00,180 --> 00:24:01,283 The numbers are on your screen. 467 00:24:01,315 --> 00:24:02,883 Mmm. Stop it. 468 00:24:02,917 --> 00:24:04,853 You're distracting me. 469 00:24:04,885 --> 00:24:07,321 ...voices of angels. I hope you enjoy them, 470 00:24:07,354 --> 00:24:09,324 and we have a variety... 471 00:24:09,356 --> 00:24:12,661 Well, we'll have to call the preacher down in Raleigh 472 00:24:12,693 --> 00:24:14,562 and let him know we got a better gig down here. 473 00:24:14,595 --> 00:24:16,297 Don't make him cross at you, Jim. 474 00:24:16,331 --> 00:24:18,166 We wanna have him want us back. 475 00:24:18,199 --> 00:24:19,801 Hold on. 476 00:24:19,834 --> 00:24:21,169 What? 477 00:24:21,201 --> 00:24:22,270 The car. 478 00:24:23,638 --> 00:24:24,740 I... 479 00:24:26,274 --> 00:24:28,176 I... I parked it here. 480 00:24:28,209 --> 00:24:30,845 Yep, you sure did. Uh-huh. 481 00:24:32,212 --> 00:24:33,614 Well, must've got stolen... 482 00:24:33,648 --> 00:24:34,749 What? 483 00:24:34,782 --> 00:24:36,919 Oh. 484 00:24:37,986 --> 00:24:39,720 Oh, maybe it got towed. 485 00:24:39,754 --> 00:24:42,658 No, I know I made the payments, so... 486 00:24:43,991 --> 00:24:45,726 I think I made the payments. 487 00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:46,694 Oh, Jim. 488 00:24:46,728 --> 00:24:48,330 Maybe they didn't get the payments or maybe... 489 00:24:48,363 --> 00:24:49,597 Oh, no. 490 00:24:49,631 --> 00:24:51,132 I don't think I forgot. 491 00:24:51,164 --> 00:24:52,666 - I think I... - Okay. 492 00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:55,069 - Oh, Tammy, I don't know... - We need to pray. 493 00:24:55,103 --> 00:24:57,171 Oh, did I? Yes, yes, yes. 494 00:24:57,205 --> 00:24:58,640 Oh, Lord, 495 00:24:58,672 --> 00:25:00,608 we are good soldiers. 496 00:25:00,642 --> 00:25:02,177 - We are here for good. - Oh, I'm sorry, Tammy. 497 00:25:02,209 --> 00:25:03,978 - We are here for your good. - I'm so, so, so sorry. 498 00:25:04,011 --> 00:25:05,146 And we ask that you shine your light... 499 00:25:05,180 --> 00:25:06,881 I shouldn't have put so much faith in that bank. 500 00:25:06,913 --> 00:25:08,616 God, I'm so sorry. 501 00:25:08,650 --> 00:25:09,851 Jesus, I'm so sorry. 502 00:25:09,883 --> 00:25:11,353 Tammy, I'm sorry. 503 00:25:11,385 --> 00:25:13,053 I'm sorry. 504 00:25:13,086 --> 00:25:14,690 Jim. 505 00:25:16,857 --> 00:25:18,292 Hey. 506 00:25:18,325 --> 00:25:20,894 Hey, I saw you preach last night. 507 00:25:20,928 --> 00:25:23,965 Those puppets of yours filled me. Deeply. 508 00:25:23,998 --> 00:25:25,266 Oh, thank you. 509 00:25:25,298 --> 00:25:26,634 Thank you. 510 00:25:26,668 --> 00:25:28,402 I'm staying in the room next door. 511 00:25:28,436 --> 00:25:30,805 - Can I help you with that? - No! 512 00:25:30,837 --> 00:25:32,641 Well, that's very kind of you... 513 00:25:33,842 --> 00:25:36,911 ...but we don't rightly know where we're carrying it to. 514 00:25:36,943 --> 00:25:38,747 I work at a local television station 515 00:25:38,779 --> 00:25:40,915 with a minister by the name of Mr. Pat Robertson. 516 00:25:44,986 --> 00:25:46,988 He'd get a kick outta you two. 517 00:25:51,392 --> 00:25:54,996 Yes, honey, and that's $25 a pledge. 518 00:25:55,028 --> 00:25:58,365 CBN. 519 00:25:58,399 --> 00:26:00,334 Can I take your pledge? 520 00:26:01,869 --> 00:26:03,805 Well, I'm trying to focus. 521 00:26:05,405 --> 00:26:07,441 And you're just distracting me. 522 00:26:07,475 --> 00:26:09,911 You make me laugh. I was happy to find... 523 00:26:12,814 --> 00:26:14,882 You're so funny, Graham. 524 00:26:14,915 --> 00:26:16,316 - Jim? - Hey, honey. 525 00:26:16,350 --> 00:26:18,186 Hi, I got a new outfit for the show. 526 00:26:18,219 --> 00:26:20,455 Oh, yes, I love it. 527 00:26:20,488 --> 00:26:22,390 - Jim. - Yeah? 528 00:26:22,422 --> 00:26:23,724 You didn't even look at me. 529 00:26:23,757 --> 00:26:25,226 Oh. 530 00:26:25,258 --> 00:26:26,894 I'm sorry, Tam. 531 00:26:26,928 --> 00:26:27,996 Have I ever told you 532 00:26:28,028 --> 00:26:31,900 that I am the luckiest man on the face of this planet? 533 00:26:31,932 --> 00:26:33,767 Have I ever told you that? 534 00:26:33,801 --> 00:26:35,870 - Not today. - Not today, no? 535 00:26:35,902 --> 00:26:37,104 I'm going to tell you something, too, 536 00:26:37,138 --> 00:26:38,907 but I'm not gonna tell you right now. 537 00:26:38,940 --> 00:26:40,075 You're gonna have to wait. 538 00:26:40,107 --> 00:26:41,976 - No, no, no! - Yeah. 539 00:26:42,776 --> 00:26:44,278 You just have to. 540 00:26:44,312 --> 00:26:46,147 And there he is. 541 00:26:46,180 --> 00:26:47,282 Every time I try and talk to him, 542 00:26:47,315 --> 00:26:49,450 he just keeps making excuses not to see me. 543 00:26:49,484 --> 00:26:53,288 Well, my surprise is gonna make you feel so much better. 544 00:26:53,755 --> 00:26:55,256 I'll be right back. 545 00:26:55,288 --> 00:26:56,423 No, Jim, 546 00:26:56,457 --> 00:26:57,926 - the show's about to start. - Hey, Pat! 547 00:26:57,959 --> 00:26:59,995 - Jim! Hey! - You got a second? 548 00:27:00,961 --> 00:27:03,297 Have you given more thought to our show idea? 549 00:27:03,331 --> 00:27:04,199 All right, let me get you set up. 550 00:27:04,231 --> 00:27:05,899 Don't you already have your hands full 551 00:27:05,932 --> 00:27:07,201 with those puppets? 552 00:27:07,235 --> 00:27:09,738 Biggest earner we got. You stay focused. 553 00:27:09,770 --> 00:27:10,904 Well, yes, of course, 554 00:27:10,938 --> 00:27:13,507 but you shut down CBN at 10 p.m. 555 00:27:13,540 --> 00:27:15,142 Why not do a late-night show? 556 00:27:15,176 --> 00:27:17,045 Just kind of like Johnny Carson for Christians? 557 00:27:17,077 --> 00:27:19,279 No, Christians don't stay up that late. 558 00:27:19,313 --> 00:27:20,180 Oh, I do. 559 00:27:20,213 --> 00:27:22,149 - I don't sleep at all. - What about Tam? 560 00:27:22,182 --> 00:27:24,118 Well, she's gonna miss you at night. 561 00:27:24,151 --> 00:27:26,187 - Tammy loves the idea. - Tammy, we're on. 562 00:27:26,219 --> 00:27:29,257 Okay, we're live in five, four, three. 563 00:27:33,326 --> 00:27:34,996 Oh, hello, everybody! 564 00:27:35,028 --> 00:27:37,832 Hi, Tammy! 565 00:27:37,864 --> 00:27:40,267 Well, Jim is a little bit late today, 566 00:27:40,301 --> 00:27:43,138 so, um, the theme of today's show, 567 00:27:43,171 --> 00:27:44,972 how about we make it all about the importance 568 00:27:45,006 --> 00:27:47,275 of being places on time, hmm? 569 00:27:47,307 --> 00:27:49,344 Oh, no! Oh, no! 570 00:27:49,376 --> 00:27:51,311 - I'm sorry, kids! - There he is. 571 00:27:51,344 --> 00:27:54,815 I'm sorry, Tammy! I'm sorry, everybody. 572 00:27:54,848 --> 00:27:57,184 I was just having a little, fun little chat 573 00:27:57,218 --> 00:27:59,988 with Uncle Pat just behind the barn. 574 00:28:00,020 --> 00:28:02,156 Oh, yeah, and what'd you two fellas get up to without me? 575 00:28:02,190 --> 00:28:05,160 Oh, well, it's actually something all you kids... 576 00:28:05,192 --> 00:28:06,227 - Mm-hmm. - ...are gonna wanna 577 00:28:06,259 --> 00:28:07,895 tell your parents about. 578 00:28:07,929 --> 00:28:12,300 It's a brand-new show just for them 579 00:28:12,333 --> 00:28:15,937 right here on CBN! 580 00:28:15,969 --> 00:28:17,372 Well, amen! 581 00:28:17,404 --> 00:28:20,474 And it's gonna be called The 700 Club. 582 00:28:20,507 --> 00:28:22,276 Now, isn't that happy news? 583 00:28:22,309 --> 00:28:25,245 Hallelujah! Yes! Yes! 584 00:28:25,278 --> 00:28:26,580 - Hi, kids. - Oh. 585 00:28:26,613 --> 00:28:30,084 Hi, Susie Moppet. 586 00:28:30,116 --> 00:28:32,921 Hi, Jim. Today's a happy day. 587 00:28:32,953 --> 00:28:34,488 Isn't it, kids? And you know why, Jim? 588 00:28:34,521 --> 00:28:36,290 Why, Susie? 589 00:28:36,324 --> 00:28:39,360 Well, you're gonna have a new show, kids. 590 00:28:39,392 --> 00:28:41,196 Yes. 591 00:28:41,228 --> 00:28:44,899 And Jim is gonna have 592 00:28:44,931 --> 00:28:46,401 a baby. 593 00:28:47,869 --> 00:28:49,603 Look at Tammy, she's right behind you. 594 00:28:53,207 --> 00:28:55,576 We're gonna have a baby? 595 00:28:55,610 --> 00:28:58,246 Isn't the world just full of blessings, Jim? 596 00:28:58,278 --> 00:29:00,280 Huh? 597 00:29:00,314 --> 00:29:02,182 That's right, folks! 598 00:29:05,419 --> 00:29:07,354 We're gonna have a baby! 599 00:29:07,388 --> 00:29:08,923 Oh-ho-ho! 600 00:29:08,956 --> 00:29:12,026 It's not a drag to be saved. 601 00:29:12,058 --> 00:29:13,961 It's not a boring thing. 602 00:29:13,995 --> 00:29:16,898 That's religion. See, you got 'em mixed up. 603 00:29:16,930 --> 00:29:19,299 Religion is boring and dull, 604 00:29:19,333 --> 00:29:22,570 but Jesus is life. 605 00:29:22,603 --> 00:29:25,340 Now, my next guest is a new friend to The 700 Club, 606 00:29:25,373 --> 00:29:29,477 and I can smell his chicken, yes. 607 00:29:29,509 --> 00:29:34,147 The Colonel, Colonel Sanders in The 700 Club! 608 00:29:41,288 --> 00:29:45,492 Oh, the crowd appreciates you. I think they like you. 609 00:29:45,526 --> 00:29:47,394 I think they're wanting some of that chicken. 610 00:29:47,428 --> 00:29:48,897 I guess the housewives of America 611 00:29:48,930 --> 00:29:50,198 are thanking you for fixing dinner... 612 00:29:53,401 --> 00:29:54,502 Hello. 613 00:29:54,535 --> 00:29:56,170 Oh, hi, Mom. 614 00:29:56,202 --> 00:29:59,473 Do you know what time it is? Why are you calling so late? 615 00:29:59,507 --> 00:30:02,376 Well, Jim says that I need to rest for my pregnancy, 616 00:30:02,410 --> 00:30:06,014 but, oh, you know me. I can't rest, 617 00:30:06,046 --> 00:30:08,216 so thought I'd call my mother to keep me company. 618 00:30:08,248 --> 00:30:10,183 I never got a rest. 619 00:30:10,217 --> 00:30:12,387 Oh, I miss working, though. You know? 620 00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:15,323 It's so lonesome at home all by myself. 621 00:30:15,355 --> 00:30:17,991 Wow! Oh, wow! 622 00:30:18,025 --> 00:30:19,326 And he barely touches me anymore. 623 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,231 And when he does, it's not enthusiastic. 624 00:30:23,264 --> 00:30:26,935 Well, it's up to the wife to make herself desirable for her husband. 625 00:30:26,968 --> 00:30:29,704 I do that. Oh, I do. 626 00:30:29,737 --> 00:30:32,073 He's just really busy. 627 00:30:32,105 --> 00:30:33,641 Really? 628 00:30:33,673 --> 00:30:36,043 So, are you watching Jim's show? 629 00:30:36,076 --> 00:30:38,246 That new talk show of his is on. 630 00:30:38,278 --> 00:30:39,613 Serving God don't feel like 631 00:30:39,646 --> 00:30:41,615 it should be a money-making opportunity. 632 00:30:41,649 --> 00:30:43,450 Yeah. 633 00:30:43,484 --> 00:30:46,054 You know, I wanna do what he's doing. 634 00:30:46,086 --> 00:30:48,655 And I wanna sing and not in a puppet voice. 635 00:30:48,689 --> 00:30:51,426 And I wanna talk about issues that affect people's daily lives. 636 00:30:51,459 --> 00:30:53,161 And there's so much that we don't talk about. 637 00:30:53,193 --> 00:30:54,261 There's so many secrets, 638 00:30:54,295 --> 00:30:58,166 and, you know, everyone says I'm supposed to be tired, 639 00:30:58,199 --> 00:31:00,267 but I just wanna love people. 640 00:31:00,301 --> 00:31:01,669 You got me out of bed 641 00:31:01,701 --> 00:31:03,503 to talk to me about how you're not tired. 642 00:31:03,536 --> 00:31:05,406 Does that make sense to you? 643 00:31:07,475 --> 00:31:09,477 No. 644 00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:12,747 - Sorry. - Night night, Tam. Take care. 645 00:31:12,779 --> 00:31:15,016 Good night, Mom. I love you. 646 00:31:15,048 --> 00:31:16,150 Bye. 647 00:31:16,182 --> 00:31:17,451 Okay, bye-bye. 648 00:31:20,587 --> 00:31:21,588 Who was it? 649 00:31:24,525 --> 00:31:25,626 That was Tam. 650 00:31:25,659 --> 00:31:26,794 How is she? 651 00:31:26,826 --> 00:31:28,695 Well, it seems like she's having some trouble 652 00:31:28,728 --> 00:31:30,364 with the pregnancy. What'd I miss? 653 00:31:30,398 --> 00:31:31,499 ...a second childhood. 654 00:31:31,532 --> 00:31:33,034 I don't know. The sound was off. 655 00:31:33,066 --> 00:31:34,434 You love kids, don't you? 656 00:31:34,468 --> 00:31:36,204 - You love children. - I do. 657 00:31:36,237 --> 00:31:39,673 I have five grandchildren and 14 great-grandchildren. 658 00:31:39,707 --> 00:31:42,677 Wow! 659 00:31:42,709 --> 00:31:44,645 I bet they're spoiled. Do you spoil them? 660 00:31:53,054 --> 00:31:55,055 Oh, dear Lord God. 661 00:31:57,557 --> 00:32:01,228 What doors are you gonna open up for me to walk through? 662 00:32:04,431 --> 00:32:06,566 What can I do for happiness? 663 00:32:09,603 --> 00:32:11,706 Oh, I wanna get back on TV. 664 00:32:14,174 --> 00:32:16,478 I'm going back to work for you. 665 00:32:36,596 --> 00:32:38,098 Well... 666 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,235 What do you think he pays himself? 667 00:32:41,267 --> 00:32:42,269 Oh. 668 00:32:44,838 --> 00:32:46,273 I should have worn the other dress. 669 00:32:46,306 --> 00:32:47,776 You look fine, honey. 670 00:32:49,276 --> 00:32:50,445 Oh. 671 00:32:50,478 --> 00:32:51,546 There he is. 672 00:32:51,578 --> 00:32:53,847 Dede's wearing a mink. That's a real mink! 673 00:32:53,881 --> 00:32:55,283 And it's warm outside. 674 00:32:55,315 --> 00:32:57,718 You know, we... we paid for all this, Tammy. 675 00:32:57,750 --> 00:33:01,622 You and me, from the swimming pool to the hot tub, 676 00:33:01,654 --> 00:33:03,825 and Dede's dead animal. We paid for it. 677 00:33:03,857 --> 00:33:06,793 Well, the fruit isn't dropping our way, that's for sure. 678 00:33:06,826 --> 00:33:09,631 My little stars! 679 00:33:10,097 --> 00:33:11,699 Hello. Hey, Pat! 680 00:33:11,731 --> 00:33:13,100 - What a beautiful place! - How are you? 681 00:33:13,133 --> 00:33:15,202 - Oh, thank you, thank you! - Paradise! 682 00:33:15,236 --> 00:33:18,305 Look at that little baby, too. Positively a chipmunk. 683 00:33:18,338 --> 00:33:19,539 Thanks. 684 00:33:19,573 --> 00:33:20,740 Hey, that's a nice coat. 685 00:33:20,774 --> 00:33:21,843 Oh, thank you, dear. 686 00:33:21,875 --> 00:33:23,243 Must be hot though. 687 00:33:23,276 --> 00:33:24,578 No, not in the least. 688 00:33:24,612 --> 00:33:26,247 Oh. 689 00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:27,614 Hey, Jim, I've been thinking. 690 00:33:27,648 --> 00:33:29,617 Mm-hmm? - Have you given any thought 691 00:33:29,650 --> 00:33:32,286 to taking some time off to be with your family? 692 00:33:32,953 --> 00:33:34,688 These times do not come back. 693 00:33:34,721 --> 00:33:35,756 - No. - Trust me, 694 00:33:35,788 --> 00:33:37,290 they are precious, precious times. 695 00:33:37,324 --> 00:33:38,625 - No, sir. - Mm. 696 00:33:38,659 --> 00:33:42,497 I can do The 700 Club for a time. 697 00:33:42,529 --> 00:33:46,399 We can air reruns of Jim and Tammy for a few weeks. 698 00:33:46,432 --> 00:33:48,635 - Hmm. - A couple of months even. 699 00:33:48,669 --> 00:33:50,371 What do you think? 700 00:33:51,872 --> 00:33:54,542 It's very... It's very kind of you, Uncle Pat. 701 00:33:54,575 --> 00:33:55,942 Thank you. 702 00:33:55,977 --> 00:33:59,714 But, you know, I got that bond going with my audience, you know? 703 00:33:59,747 --> 00:34:00,681 We're on the up-and-up. 704 00:34:00,715 --> 00:34:03,184 I couldn't think of abandoning them right now. 705 00:34:03,217 --> 00:34:05,319 - Well, we'll think about it. - Oh, Pat, Pat, Pat! 706 00:34:05,352 --> 00:34:06,687 - Oh. - He came. 707 00:34:06,719 --> 00:34:08,890 Oh, my goodness! 708 00:34:14,261 --> 00:34:15,429 - Hello! Hello! - Honey. 709 00:34:15,462 --> 00:34:16,597 - I see, I see him. - Go say hi! 710 00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:18,265 I know, I see him. We'll sit down, we'll sit down. 711 00:34:18,299 --> 00:34:19,167 Was your drive in okay? 712 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,768 - Jim, go say hi! - I don't wanna say hi. 713 00:34:20,801 --> 00:34:22,203 I'm fine. We'll say hi later. 714 00:34:22,236 --> 00:34:24,238 You remember Jim and Tammy Faye? 715 00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:26,439 Hey, now, the puppet people! 716 00:34:26,473 --> 00:34:28,676 Oh, my goodness, just... 717 00:34:28,709 --> 00:34:30,511 What a pleasure, Mr. Falwell. 718 00:34:30,544 --> 00:34:32,312 A pleasure and a blessing. 719 00:34:32,346 --> 00:34:35,683 You are truly an inspiration to me. It's an honor. 720 00:34:35,716 --> 00:34:37,384 Nice to meet you, Jerry. I'm Tammy. 721 00:34:37,417 --> 00:34:39,219 Tammy Faye and this is Sissy. 722 00:34:39,252 --> 00:34:40,520 Aren't the three of you 723 00:34:40,553 --> 00:34:41,588 as cute as a button? 724 00:34:41,622 --> 00:34:43,690 - Aw! - Yes, sir! 725 00:34:43,723 --> 00:34:45,192 It's a moral issue... 726 00:34:47,761 --> 00:34:49,663 ...feminist revolution. 727 00:34:55,236 --> 00:34:56,636 You know it was fate. 728 00:34:56,669 --> 00:34:57,704 It was when my youngest 729 00:34:57,738 --> 00:34:59,373 was being baptized, 730 00:34:59,406 --> 00:35:01,241 she was such a little-bitty thing 731 00:35:01,274 --> 00:35:02,843 that we had to put a little milk crate 732 00:35:02,875 --> 00:35:05,379 in the baptismal for her to stand on. 733 00:35:06,346 --> 00:35:08,850 Come on, let's go see Daddy. 734 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,855 Hi! 735 00:35:14,888 --> 00:35:16,658 Could I sit down? 736 00:35:17,790 --> 00:35:19,426 I have the baby, you know. 737 00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:21,295 It's kinda hard to eat and, you know... 738 00:35:21,328 --> 00:35:22,830 Sure. Um, yeah. 739 00:35:22,863 --> 00:35:25,732 Using the fork and the knife at the same time 740 00:35:25,765 --> 00:35:27,267 and, you know, get the food to my mouth. 741 00:35:27,301 --> 00:35:28,436 Well, why don't... 742 00:35:28,468 --> 00:35:29,569 - I think... - And I wanna hear 743 00:35:29,602 --> 00:35:30,937 all this interesting stuff. 744 00:35:30,971 --> 00:35:32,239 - Yeah, but... - Honey... 745 00:35:32,272 --> 00:35:33,373 Well, I'll be right back. 746 00:35:33,406 --> 00:35:34,808 - Tam. - Oh. 747 00:35:36,442 --> 00:35:37,812 She's a firecracker, Jim. 748 00:35:43,450 --> 00:35:44,718 - Jim. - Yes. 749 00:35:44,752 --> 00:35:45,820 Come on. 750 00:35:45,852 --> 00:35:47,521 Okay. 751 00:35:49,390 --> 00:35:50,725 Okay. 752 00:35:51,491 --> 00:35:52,892 Well, very nice. 753 00:35:52,926 --> 00:35:54,529 As you were saying, Jerry? 754 00:35:56,596 --> 00:35:58,765 Let's call me Reverend Falwell. 755 00:35:59,667 --> 00:36:00,668 Of course. 756 00:36:02,402 --> 00:36:04,638 Young people today are raised on television. 757 00:36:04,672 --> 00:36:06,707 It's taught them an immorality. 758 00:36:06,739 --> 00:36:11,745 But now, we are on television. 759 00:36:12,846 --> 00:36:15,016 When I created The 700 Club, 760 00:36:15,049 --> 00:36:18,052 all I needed was 700 people to keep us going. 761 00:36:18,085 --> 00:36:21,956 A year later, we're in six markets and growin'. 762 00:36:21,989 --> 00:36:26,594 Hundreds of thousands of folks are hearin' the word. 763 00:36:26,627 --> 00:36:28,728 Now, God has a voice in this fight. 764 00:36:28,761 --> 00:36:29,930 - Amen. - Mm-hmm. 765 00:36:29,962 --> 00:36:31,932 Mm. Who's He fighting? 766 00:36:32,565 --> 00:36:34,435 The liberal agenda. 767 00:36:34,468 --> 00:36:36,770 The feminist agenda. 768 00:36:36,803 --> 00:36:38,506 Homosexual agenda. 769 00:36:38,538 --> 00:36:41,508 It's time for a reversal of these trends. 770 00:36:41,542 --> 00:36:44,545 The only hope's in saving America. 771 00:36:44,578 --> 00:36:45,713 Get back to the good old days. 772 00:36:45,745 --> 00:36:46,948 Mm. Mm. 773 00:36:47,547 --> 00:36:50,785 Well, I love our country, 774 00:36:50,817 --> 00:36:53,020 but America is for them, too. 775 00:36:53,053 --> 00:36:55,355 Uh... Well... 776 00:36:55,388 --> 00:36:56,423 - Oh, Tam? - Mm? 777 00:36:56,457 --> 00:36:57,757 Will you mind getting me another Coke? 778 00:36:57,790 --> 00:36:58,959 Jim, let your wife speak. 779 00:37:00,493 --> 00:37:03,430 Debate. I think it gets us all back to unity. 780 00:37:03,464 --> 00:37:06,366 Oh, I don't want to debate you, Jerry. I love you. 781 00:37:06,399 --> 00:37:08,435 - I love all of you guys. - Reverend Falwell. 782 00:37:09,402 --> 00:37:10,437 Um... 783 00:37:10,471 --> 00:37:12,406 We love you, too, Tammy Faye. 784 00:37:12,439 --> 00:37:13,774 Yes, we do. 785 00:37:15,042 --> 00:37:16,410 God as my witness, 786 00:37:16,444 --> 00:37:21,114 I made a pledge to continue to expose the sins in this country. 787 00:37:21,147 --> 00:37:25,018 The Bible explicitly forbids homosexuality. 788 00:37:25,051 --> 00:37:26,820 There's no gray area. 789 00:37:27,453 --> 00:37:28,654 Mm. 790 00:37:28,689 --> 00:37:32,058 Well, you know, I don't think of them as homosexuals. 791 00:37:32,091 --> 00:37:34,961 I just think of them as other human beings that I love. 792 00:37:34,995 --> 00:37:38,933 You know, we're all just people made out of the same old dirt. 793 00:37:38,966 --> 00:37:40,968 And God didn't make any junk. 794 00:37:42,136 --> 00:37:43,371 Right, honey? 795 00:37:46,873 --> 00:37:48,007 - Tammy? - Hmm? 796 00:37:49,542 --> 00:37:50,777 - Tam. - Hmm? 797 00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:52,879 You can't... What are you doing? 798 00:37:52,913 --> 00:37:54,382 I'm changing the baby, honey. 799 00:37:54,415 --> 00:37:57,618 You can't talk to him like that. 800 00:37:57,651 --> 00:38:00,888 That's the big boss man. We need him to like us. 801 00:38:00,921 --> 00:38:02,756 - Jim. - No, Tammy. 802 00:38:02,790 --> 00:38:06,026 Look, listen to me. I'm trying to build something here. 803 00:38:06,058 --> 00:38:07,560 I'm not messing around. 804 00:38:07,593 --> 00:38:10,764 God told me He wants me to have what Pat has. 805 00:38:10,797 --> 00:38:14,000 But if you keep acting like that, if you keep talking to Falwell that way, 806 00:38:14,033 --> 00:38:15,502 I'm not gonna ever get there. 807 00:38:15,535 --> 00:38:17,871 Well, God's been talking to me, too, you know, Jim? 808 00:38:17,904 --> 00:38:19,573 And He said that I gotta speak up. 809 00:38:20,741 --> 00:38:22,476 So, here goes. 810 00:38:22,509 --> 00:38:25,045 You can't leave me at home all alone, 811 00:38:25,078 --> 00:38:29,083 feeling unloved, and useless. 812 00:38:29,116 --> 00:38:32,887 And He said that I belong on TV just as much as you do. 813 00:38:32,919 --> 00:38:35,655 And that I should sing and I should be funny. 814 00:38:35,689 --> 00:38:38,591 And I should talk about real things for grown-ups. 815 00:38:38,625 --> 00:38:40,828 Just, you know, just the way you do. 816 00:38:42,863 --> 00:38:44,864 And... 817 00:38:44,897 --> 00:38:48,769 He says I'm not gonna tell people who's going to Hell, Jim. 818 00:38:50,002 --> 00:38:52,439 We're in the business of healing people. 819 00:38:55,107 --> 00:38:56,477 Yes. 820 00:38:58,011 --> 00:39:00,848 Jerry Falwell's a powerful man, Tammy Faye. 821 00:39:03,149 --> 00:39:05,018 Jim Bakker 822 00:39:06,252 --> 00:39:09,556 is a powerful man. 823 00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:11,725 Jim Bakker. 824 00:39:15,228 --> 00:39:18,933 Yes, he is, Tammy Faye Bakker. 825 00:39:20,801 --> 00:39:24,505 I'm so, so sorry. I forgot my own strength... 826 00:39:25,538 --> 00:39:28,007 and my manly duties. 827 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,876 It's okay. 828 00:39:31,078 --> 00:39:33,013 You know, we built CBN in four years 829 00:39:33,046 --> 00:39:35,515 and we could build our own in half that. 830 00:39:36,216 --> 00:39:38,018 Yes, I think we can. 831 00:39:39,652 --> 00:39:41,622 Oh, yeah, we can. 832 00:39:42,723 --> 00:39:45,926 Yes. 833 00:39:45,959 --> 00:39:49,763 Jim Bakker is gonna be a builder for Christ. 834 00:39:50,297 --> 00:39:52,533 Oh, yes, he will. 835 00:39:52,565 --> 00:39:55,669 And Tammy Faye Bakker 836 00:39:55,701 --> 00:40:00,507 is gonna sing her gospel all around the world. 837 00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:02,576 We are gonna spread His word. 838 00:40:03,009 --> 00:40:04,044 Oh, my! 839 00:40:07,814 --> 00:40:09,517 Coming to you from Praise The Lord studios 840 00:40:09,549 --> 00:40:11,017 in Charlotte, North Carolina, 841 00:40:11,051 --> 00:40:14,855 broadcasting live across this great nation. 842 00:40:14,888 --> 00:40:15,922 Praise The Lord television network 843 00:40:15,955 --> 00:40:19,192 presents our five-year anniversary Christmas special, 844 00:40:19,225 --> 00:40:21,794 the Jim and Tammy Show! 845 00:40:21,828 --> 00:40:22,930 * Ooh we're blest 846 00:40:24,330 --> 00:40:27,033 * We are blest 847 00:40:27,067 --> 00:40:29,703 * Yes, we've got shelter, clothing and strength 848 00:40:29,736 --> 00:40:32,806 * We are blest 849 00:40:32,839 --> 00:40:35,042 * We're blest, we're blest, we're blest 850 00:40:35,075 --> 00:40:38,078 * We are blest 851 00:40:38,111 --> 00:40:43,317 * We don't deserve it but yet we are blest 852 00:40:43,350 --> 00:40:46,921 * We don't deserve it but yet we are blest 853 00:40:46,953 --> 00:40:48,589 Hi, everybody! 854 00:40:50,223 --> 00:40:53,326 Nice to see you. Hi! How are you? 855 00:40:53,359 --> 00:40:55,728 Look at all of you! Wow! 856 00:40:55,761 --> 00:40:57,064 My land! 857 00:40:57,096 --> 00:40:59,732 What a beautiful audience! Hi, how are you doing? 858 00:40:59,765 --> 00:41:00,968 God has worked miracles! 859 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,203 I want miracles for all of us! 860 00:41:03,236 --> 00:41:04,939 We've got a marvelous show for you today. 861 00:41:04,971 --> 00:41:06,640 Little Richard is here! 862 00:41:06,672 --> 00:41:08,075 God loves you. 863 00:41:08,107 --> 00:41:09,676 He really does! 864 00:41:09,710 --> 00:41:12,646 They are doing God's work teaching skills to the homeless. 865 00:41:12,678 --> 00:41:14,147 Providing housing for unwed mothers 866 00:41:14,181 --> 00:41:15,716 and handicapped children. 867 00:41:21,855 --> 00:41:24,358 PTL brings the word of God and Jesus Christ 868 00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:25,792 - to the whole world. - That's it. 869 00:41:25,826 --> 00:41:27,061 God bless you, honey. 870 00:41:27,093 --> 00:41:28,161 It's a powerful thing! 871 00:41:34,801 --> 00:41:36,670 Five years ago, the PTL network 872 00:41:36,703 --> 00:41:39,873 was little more than a prayer and a dream. 873 00:41:39,906 --> 00:41:42,276 Today, the nation's fourth largest network. 874 00:41:42,308 --> 00:41:47,747 * We don't deserve it but yet we are blest 875 00:41:47,781 --> 00:41:51,886 * We don't deserve it but yet we are blest * 876 00:41:52,886 --> 00:41:54,321 Yes, people. We truly are blessed 877 00:41:54,353 --> 00:41:56,390 because there is no condemnation for them 878 00:41:56,422 --> 00:41:58,125 which are in Jesus Christ. 879 00:41:58,158 --> 00:42:01,328 Therefore, if God is for us, who could be against us? 880 00:42:01,361 --> 00:42:03,830 Blessed are they that hunger and thirst for His glory, 881 00:42:03,864 --> 00:42:06,033 for they shall be filled. 882 00:42:06,065 --> 00:42:09,069 Blessed are the pure of heart, for they shall see God. 883 00:42:09,102 --> 00:42:13,172 We have gathered us into His kingdom and made us priests of God his Father. 884 00:42:13,205 --> 00:42:17,877 Give unto Him everlasting glory, He rules forever! Amen! 885 00:42:17,910 --> 00:42:19,746 Amen! 886 00:42:19,779 --> 00:42:21,114 Wow! 887 00:42:23,984 --> 00:42:25,386 My land! 888 00:42:29,355 --> 00:42:31,725 Tammy Faye, ladies and gentlemen, 889 00:42:31,757 --> 00:42:33,861 Tammy Faye Bakker! 890 00:42:33,893 --> 00:42:38,232 And it's the happiest time of the year, it's Christmas! 891 00:42:38,265 --> 00:42:41,167 And remember, never forget it. 892 00:42:41,201 --> 00:42:44,371 You know what I'm gonna say. God loves you. 893 00:42:44,404 --> 00:42:46,674 He really, really, really does. 894 00:42:46,707 --> 00:42:48,442 Merry Christmas, everyone! 895 00:42:48,475 --> 00:42:51,210 - Merry Christmas! - Bye-bye, everybody! 896 00:42:51,243 --> 00:42:53,113 I'm Fletcher, Jim's right-hand man. 897 00:42:53,145 --> 00:42:55,716 Jim and Tammy are gonna be so happy to see you. 898 00:42:55,748 --> 00:42:58,451 I can't believe you've never made it down to the studios before. 899 00:42:58,484 --> 00:43:01,387 Well, the Carolinas are a long way from International Falls. 900 00:43:01,421 --> 00:43:03,890 Have you always been involved with the church, Mr. Fletcher? 901 00:43:03,924 --> 00:43:05,459 I've done all sorts of things. 902 00:43:05,491 --> 00:43:07,928 Once, I was even a party clown. 903 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,296 You don't believe me, but it's true. 904 00:43:09,328 --> 00:43:10,997 Come, this way. Show's about to start. 905 00:43:11,031 --> 00:43:12,065 Party clown? 906 00:43:12,098 --> 00:43:13,167 We'll get you set up. 907 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,868 But the penile implant of the inflatable type 908 00:43:15,902 --> 00:43:17,471 is the one that we see here. 909 00:43:17,504 --> 00:43:19,139 Mm-hmm. And this is the newest one? 910 00:43:19,172 --> 00:43:22,209 Well, it is. And when the man wants to become erect, 911 00:43:23,042 --> 00:43:24,477 he simply reaches down 912 00:43:24,511 --> 00:43:28,082 and he squeezes that several times 913 00:43:28,114 --> 00:43:29,415 and the man becomes firm. 914 00:43:29,448 --> 00:43:31,818 I think that's fantastic. 915 00:43:33,018 --> 00:43:35,189 Go ahead, audience, go ahead. 916 00:43:37,424 --> 00:43:39,326 Well, you know something else that's fantastic? 917 00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:41,361 I'm so excited I'm just beside myself. 918 00:43:41,393 --> 00:43:43,863 I would like to introduce you 919 00:43:43,897 --> 00:43:47,067 to my mother and her husband, 920 00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:49,169 Rachel and Fred Grover. 921 00:43:49,201 --> 00:43:51,805 Stand up, everybody, stand up. 922 00:43:51,837 --> 00:43:52,839 Come on. Stand up, 923 00:43:52,872 --> 00:43:54,741 that deserves a big ol' round of applause. 924 00:43:57,009 --> 00:43:58,446 Stand up, Mom. 925 00:44:04,484 --> 00:44:05,953 Thank you. 926 00:44:05,986 --> 00:44:07,821 So, here's the house. 927 00:44:07,853 --> 00:44:10,790 Isn't it beautiful? I just think it's so neat. 928 00:44:10,823 --> 00:44:13,993 Our ministry's building lots of houses on the PTL property. 929 00:44:14,027 --> 00:44:16,764 There's one with pregnant teens and one for kids with needs. 930 00:44:16,797 --> 00:44:18,332 It's all part of our mission to help people. 931 00:44:18,364 --> 00:44:20,299 This is just wonderful, honey. 932 00:44:20,332 --> 00:44:21,868 Yeah, I'm so glad you guys are here. 933 00:44:21,902 --> 00:44:23,403 I got you set up in the guest room 934 00:44:23,435 --> 00:44:26,506 and you can stay there until your new house is ready. 935 00:44:26,540 --> 00:44:29,143 Come on. Let me give you a tour. 936 00:44:29,176 --> 00:44:33,881 This is the relaxation room. 937 00:44:33,913 --> 00:44:36,950 Oh, now that you're here, I'm just gonna bug you any time I want to. 938 00:44:36,982 --> 00:44:39,786 Oh, yeah, I'm gonna wake you up any hour of the night. 939 00:44:39,819 --> 00:44:42,256 I'm just so glad to have you here in the PTL property with me, Mom. 940 00:44:43,924 --> 00:44:46,893 All those people looking at me and clapping. 941 00:44:46,926 --> 00:44:48,062 Oh, no. 942 00:44:48,094 --> 00:44:50,397 I don't appreciate being bamboozled like that. 943 00:44:50,430 --> 00:44:52,299 It's love, Mom. 944 00:44:52,332 --> 00:44:54,034 Oh, yeah, that's God's love. 945 00:44:54,067 --> 00:44:56,904 Every day, I have rapture. 946 00:44:56,937 --> 00:44:58,105 Rapture? 947 00:44:58,138 --> 00:45:01,808 You just spent an hour talking about pumping penises. 948 00:45:03,777 --> 00:45:05,445 Well, these things happen to people 949 00:45:05,477 --> 00:45:08,481 and I'm just being honest about the way that life is. 950 00:45:08,515 --> 00:45:11,484 And I'm providing solutions 951 00:45:11,518 --> 00:45:13,353 to make marriages better. 952 00:45:13,386 --> 00:45:15,221 - Tam, where's the privy? - On the left. 953 00:45:15,254 --> 00:45:16,390 Okay. 954 00:45:16,422 --> 00:45:18,325 Sit down, Mom. 955 00:45:18,357 --> 00:45:20,426 Who paid for this house, Tammy? 956 00:45:20,460 --> 00:45:22,095 Well, the ministry makes lots of houses. 957 00:45:22,127 --> 00:45:23,963 We've got one for unwed mothers. 958 00:45:23,997 --> 00:45:25,364 Wait till you see Kevin's House. 959 00:45:25,397 --> 00:45:28,035 Oh, yeah, that one's for kids with special needs. 960 00:45:28,067 --> 00:45:30,937 And it's named after a sweet little boy named Kevin. 961 00:45:30,971 --> 00:45:32,139 Oh, he's 13 years old 962 00:45:32,172 --> 00:45:35,409 and he is the sweetest, tiniest little thing you ever saw. 963 00:45:35,442 --> 00:45:37,911 His hands are attached to his shoulders 964 00:45:37,944 --> 00:45:39,613 and he has no arms at all. 965 00:45:39,645 --> 00:45:41,015 Bless his little heart. 966 00:45:41,681 --> 00:45:43,417 Let me show you to your room. 967 00:45:46,585 --> 00:45:48,321 Okay, everyone, let's see if I can do this. 968 00:45:48,355 --> 00:45:51,024 So, now, you're gonna go in a circle. 969 00:45:51,056 --> 00:45:54,160 Oh, mine looks a little bit like it had an explosion. 970 00:45:54,194 --> 00:45:55,329 You know what I'm gonna do? 971 00:45:55,361 --> 00:45:58,297 'Cause normally when I use frosting, it's not this thick. 972 00:45:58,330 --> 00:45:59,431 I'm just gonna do that. 973 00:45:59,466 --> 00:46:00,533 I think it's gonna be pretty. 974 00:46:00,567 --> 00:46:02,469 You know, next time, I'm gonna make you guys my fudge. 975 00:46:02,502 --> 00:46:04,538 That's the best. I think I've only made that, 976 00:46:04,571 --> 00:46:07,306 you know, on the show, like, a couple times. Mmm. 977 00:46:07,339 --> 00:46:09,209 I know! I wish we had smell-o-vision, 978 00:46:09,241 --> 00:46:10,276 so you could smell this. 979 00:46:10,310 --> 00:46:12,012 This is really nice. 980 00:46:18,250 --> 00:46:19,419 Oh! 981 00:46:19,451 --> 00:46:21,187 That one. How much time do we have? 982 00:46:21,221 --> 00:46:22,322 10 minutes, Tammy. 983 00:46:22,355 --> 00:46:23,958 Oh, goodness! 984 00:46:25,392 --> 00:46:27,560 Hey, Mom. Did you see the show? 985 00:46:27,593 --> 00:46:29,328 Wasn't that fun? 986 00:46:29,361 --> 00:46:32,331 I'm not sure what's so Christian about decorating a cupcake. 987 00:46:32,364 --> 00:46:34,901 Oh, Mom, you're so funny. 988 00:46:34,935 --> 00:46:36,536 - Have you seen this? - Hmm? 989 00:46:36,569 --> 00:46:37,971 From The Observer. 990 00:46:38,004 --> 00:46:40,007 Picture of you and Jim on the front. 991 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:40,873 Ah. 992 00:46:40,908 --> 00:46:43,576 "PTL's Bakker diverts ministry funds 993 00:46:43,609 --> 00:46:46,479 "for new building project." 994 00:46:46,513 --> 00:46:47,915 What's that about? 995 00:46:49,315 --> 00:46:50,651 Well, you can't believe everything 996 00:46:50,683 --> 00:46:52,585 that you read in the newspapers, Mom. 997 00:46:52,618 --> 00:46:54,353 How's Fred doing? Is he settling in okay? 998 00:46:54,386 --> 00:46:57,924 Smoke and fire idn't just the providence of Hell, girl. 999 00:46:57,957 --> 00:46:59,926 You know when I saw that clipping with my face on it, 1000 00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:02,696 I thought for a second that you were proud of me. 1001 00:47:02,728 --> 00:47:07,100 I'm hearing there are articles like this in the paper every day. 1002 00:47:07,132 --> 00:47:08,634 The secular press hates us 1003 00:47:08,667 --> 00:47:11,604 because we're winning millions of souls for Jesus. 1004 00:47:12,638 --> 00:47:14,240 Oh, Tammy Faye. 1005 00:47:14,274 --> 00:47:16,042 You follow blindly. 1006 00:47:16,076 --> 00:47:18,612 In the end, all you are is blind. 1007 00:47:21,348 --> 00:47:22,983 I don't know how to do it. 1008 00:47:23,015 --> 00:47:25,284 I just need it done. That is your job. 1009 00:47:25,317 --> 00:47:26,319 Yes. 1010 00:47:27,419 --> 00:47:28,521 Yes. 1011 00:47:28,555 --> 00:47:29,556 God bless you. 1012 00:47:42,167 --> 00:47:44,270 You wonder why I don't snuggle you. 1013 00:47:45,705 --> 00:47:50,043 Maybe it's all that goopy stuff on you. 1014 00:47:50,076 --> 00:47:54,348 Well, it's better than spending the night with an alligator. 1015 00:47:55,448 --> 00:47:57,116 Oh. 1016 00:47:57,149 --> 00:47:59,518 That newspaper. 1017 00:47:59,551 --> 00:48:02,288 She saved it like it was a little treasure. 1018 00:48:03,288 --> 00:48:06,625 It made me feel so rotten. 1019 00:48:06,658 --> 00:48:09,430 Well, your mother's never been all that nice to you. 1020 00:48:10,129 --> 00:48:11,765 Yeah. 1021 00:48:11,797 --> 00:48:13,600 Some people just don't change. 1022 00:48:14,801 --> 00:48:17,371 We're not doing anything wrong, though. 1023 00:48:25,578 --> 00:48:27,448 Is that a question? 1024 00:48:28,647 --> 00:48:29,649 No. 1025 00:48:46,698 --> 00:48:48,401 Tammy, sometimes, I fear 1026 00:48:48,435 --> 00:48:51,572 that what God wants of me is beyond my abilities. 1027 00:48:52,504 --> 00:48:54,273 I'm building so much for Him 1028 00:48:54,306 --> 00:48:57,243 in His name and for His people. 1029 00:48:57,843 --> 00:49:00,112 - Yeah. - And... 1030 00:49:00,145 --> 00:49:02,149 And He's giving me more visions every day. 1031 00:49:02,181 --> 00:49:04,384 Giving me more orders all the time. 1032 00:49:04,417 --> 00:49:07,219 And then, every day, these creditors... 1033 00:49:08,821 --> 00:49:12,358 ...and the people who are asking me to save them. 1034 00:49:14,593 --> 00:49:16,395 I'm only one man. 1035 00:49:16,428 --> 00:49:17,663 I'm only one man, Tammy. 1036 00:49:17,696 --> 00:49:19,132 Oh, Jim. 1037 00:49:20,433 --> 00:49:23,203 Well, I only need one man. 1038 00:49:23,236 --> 00:49:24,638 You're enough, honey. 1039 00:49:26,538 --> 00:49:28,241 Okay, come on. Come to bed. 1040 00:49:29,442 --> 00:49:31,578 Honey, it's been two months, 1041 00:49:31,611 --> 00:49:34,580 and we said we were gonna try to have another baby. 1042 00:49:34,614 --> 00:49:36,716 Tammy, I need your help. 1043 00:49:36,748 --> 00:49:39,386 I need you not to get in my way. 1044 00:49:39,419 --> 00:49:42,388 And I need you to not ask more of me than I can give. 1045 00:49:42,422 --> 00:49:43,424 Okay. 1046 00:49:44,823 --> 00:49:47,126 Do you wanna talk some more? 1047 00:49:52,732 --> 00:49:54,835 Can you... 1048 00:49:54,868 --> 00:49:56,402 Can you talk to God? 1049 00:49:58,138 --> 00:50:00,174 I'm so tired and... 1050 00:50:02,674 --> 00:50:03,676 Yes? 1051 00:50:04,877 --> 00:50:06,345 I'll call you right back. 1052 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,748 I'll take it downstairs. 1053 00:50:21,326 --> 00:50:23,129 * Don't give up 1054 00:50:23,163 --> 00:50:25,498 * You're on the brink 1055 00:50:25,531 --> 00:50:29,635 * Of a miracle 1056 00:50:29,669 --> 00:50:31,770 * Don't give up 1057 00:50:31,803 --> 00:50:36,375 * Remember you're not alone 1058 00:50:37,509 --> 00:50:42,314 * People, don't give up You're on the brink 1059 00:50:42,348 --> 00:50:45,752 * Of a miracle 1060 00:50:45,785 --> 00:50:49,890 * Don't give up on the brink 1061 00:50:49,922 --> 00:50:54,261 * Of a miracle 1062 00:50:54,294 --> 00:50:56,363 * Don't give in 1063 00:50:56,395 --> 00:51:00,267 * God is still on the throne 1064 00:51:00,299 --> 00:51:02,635 * He's on His throne 1065 00:51:02,669 --> 00:51:04,804 * Don't give up * 1066 00:51:04,837 --> 00:51:06,773 You nailed it. 1067 00:51:06,806 --> 00:51:08,642 Really? 1068 00:51:08,674 --> 00:51:11,344 This is sublime. This is top drawer. 1069 00:51:12,312 --> 00:51:13,714 You really think so, Gary? 1070 00:51:14,413 --> 00:51:15,582 I know so. 1071 00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:17,484 Your opinion means so much to me. 1072 00:51:17,517 --> 00:51:19,451 I haven't been this excited about working with an artist 1073 00:51:19,484 --> 00:51:20,921 since I produced Monster Mash. 1074 00:51:21,853 --> 00:51:24,857 That's really sweet. 1075 00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:26,892 We could get a Grammy. 1076 00:51:26,926 --> 00:51:28,895 - Really? - Really. 1077 00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:37,236 Tammy, it's time to go. Time for the shoot. 1078 00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:39,406 Come on. We're... 1079 00:51:39,439 --> 00:51:40,739 Can you hear me? Can you hear me? 1080 00:51:40,772 --> 00:51:41,740 - Yeah. - We've been looking for you, 1081 00:51:41,774 --> 00:51:44,477 so, let's go. We're live in 15 minutes. 1082 00:51:44,509 --> 00:51:46,180 Hey, hey, Jim, how are ya? 1083 00:51:46,846 --> 00:51:48,448 Blessed, Gary, blessed. 1084 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,850 I'm sorry, Jim. You know, I got lost in the music. 1085 00:51:50,882 --> 00:51:53,953 Gary here, he just makes it all so awesome. 1086 00:51:53,986 --> 00:51:55,421 Wait till you hear it. 1087 00:51:55,455 --> 00:51:56,489 You're going to love it. 1088 00:51:56,522 --> 00:51:57,991 No, it's her voice, Jim. 1089 00:51:58,024 --> 00:52:01,460 I just turn the knobs here. She sings like an angel. 1090 00:52:02,629 --> 00:52:06,333 Well, I'm never giving you back to Nashville, oh, no! 1091 00:52:06,366 --> 00:52:08,435 It's such a beautiful way to connect, Jim. 1092 00:52:08,468 --> 00:52:10,402 It's God's voice through my voice. 1093 00:52:10,435 --> 00:52:12,404 To the world's ears. 1094 00:52:12,437 --> 00:52:13,673 The things you say, Gary. 1095 00:52:14,774 --> 00:52:16,776 Tammy! You're not camera ready. 1096 00:52:16,808 --> 00:52:18,777 You know everybody's waiting for you and it's a big day. 1097 00:52:18,810 --> 00:52:21,513 We gotta do 400 K today. Can we shake a leg, please? 1098 00:52:21,547 --> 00:52:23,583 Thank you. I'm sorry to drag her away, Gary. 1099 00:52:23,616 --> 00:52:25,919 Okay! 1100 00:52:25,951 --> 00:52:27,319 Shake a leg, please. 1101 00:52:27,352 --> 00:52:28,488 Sure thing, Mister. 1102 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:29,788 Thank you. 1103 00:52:29,821 --> 00:52:31,390 - Jim. - Thank you, Gary. 1104 00:52:32,292 --> 00:52:33,393 - Tam? - Mm? 1105 00:52:39,332 --> 00:52:40,866 Ta-da! I made it! 1106 00:52:41,834 --> 00:52:43,402 30 seconds, everyone! 1107 00:52:44,636 --> 00:52:45,738 Light on one, please! 1108 00:52:49,408 --> 00:52:51,644 Hmm. How's that? 1109 00:52:51,678 --> 00:52:52,712 Yeah. 1110 00:52:56,082 --> 00:52:59,618 And we're live in five, four, 1111 00:52:59,652 --> 00:53:02,489 three, two... 1112 00:53:06,591 --> 00:53:10,896 Tammy and I are undergoing the most vicious attacks 1113 00:53:10,930 --> 00:53:14,567 in the history of this ministry. 1114 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:19,605 By now, perhaps you think that we should be used to these attacks. 1115 00:53:19,638 --> 00:53:21,974 But it's been going on for a long time, Tammy. 1116 00:53:22,007 --> 00:53:23,442 Oh, yeah, that's right, Jim. 1117 00:53:23,475 --> 00:53:26,345 It's been going on a long time. 1118 00:53:26,379 --> 00:53:29,382 We are being persecuted by the secular press 1119 00:53:29,415 --> 00:53:33,786 who simply do not want you to receive the word of God. 1120 00:53:34,419 --> 00:53:36,388 It is a witch hunt. 1121 00:53:36,422 --> 00:53:39,959 And on top of this, we have numerous past due bills... 1122 00:53:39,991 --> 00:53:41,493 that must be paid 1123 00:53:41,527 --> 00:53:43,930 if we want to save the entire network 1124 00:53:43,962 --> 00:53:46,966 and stay on the air delivering the word of God every day. 1125 00:53:46,998 --> 00:53:50,337 So, now is the time for our prayer warriors 1126 00:53:50,370 --> 00:53:53,873 to rise up because we are in a war. 1127 00:53:53,906 --> 00:53:58,344 You know, Tammy and I, we just hate to do this, 1128 00:54:00,046 --> 00:54:02,348 but if every person watching 1129 00:54:02,381 --> 00:54:06,518 could double their pledge right now, 1130 00:54:06,551 --> 00:54:09,922 that way, we can save the word of God. 1131 00:54:09,955 --> 00:54:11,957 I'm talking about salvation. 1132 00:54:11,991 --> 00:54:16,930 Yours, mine, PTL's, the entire world's. 1133 00:54:16,962 --> 00:54:20,466 So, together, if we agree together, 1134 00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:23,370 let's give the devil a black eye. 1135 00:54:24,636 --> 00:54:27,073 Oh, the phones are ringing. Oh. 1136 00:54:27,105 --> 00:54:30,609 Praise Jesus and praise you! 1137 00:54:30,643 --> 00:54:33,113 And God bless you! God bless you! 1138 00:54:33,145 --> 00:54:34,714 Hallelujah! 1139 00:54:34,747 --> 00:54:38,618 And don't forget, remember, God loves you. 1140 00:54:38,651 --> 00:54:41,922 - He really, really does. - He really does. 1141 00:54:45,558 --> 00:54:46,693 Cut! Very good, everyone. 1142 00:54:46,725 --> 00:54:48,428 That was not bad. How was that? 1143 00:54:48,460 --> 00:54:50,997 - How was it? - Uh, that was good, Jim. 1144 00:54:51,029 --> 00:54:53,399 - We need to talk. Now. - Jim, it was great. 1145 00:54:53,433 --> 00:54:55,835 We're still gonna be over budget on that... 1146 00:54:59,071 --> 00:55:02,107 I just want the sleeves a little shorter. 1147 00:55:02,140 --> 00:55:04,042 Everything's about proportion. 1148 00:55:05,777 --> 00:55:08,448 Okay, you ready to see? Close your eyes. 1149 00:55:10,482 --> 00:55:13,419 I love it, Mother. 1150 00:55:13,453 --> 00:55:15,088 Oh, Sissy, you look so beautiful, baby. 1151 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:16,655 Thank you. 1152 00:55:16,689 --> 00:55:18,825 Golly Moses, this thing weighs a ton. 1153 00:55:19,591 --> 00:55:20,692 Oh, goodness. 1154 00:55:20,727 --> 00:55:22,629 Why do you have to do so much shopping, Tam? 1155 00:55:22,661 --> 00:55:25,031 Well, I have to get my exercise somehow. 1156 00:55:25,064 --> 00:55:28,535 And, plus, I don't wanna balloon up with the new baby coming. 1157 00:55:28,567 --> 00:55:30,669 Hey, everyone, come here, come here. 1158 00:55:31,236 --> 00:55:32,337 Now, when she comes out, 1159 00:55:32,370 --> 00:55:35,474 make sure you all tell her how great she looks, okay? 1160 00:55:35,507 --> 00:55:36,942 You know, she hasn't had enough love in her life, 1161 00:55:36,975 --> 00:55:40,113 and it's time that we all change that. 1162 00:55:41,513 --> 00:55:42,515 Go on. 1163 00:55:47,786 --> 00:55:49,656 Good grief. 1164 00:55:49,689 --> 00:55:54,093 You look so good! Come here. You do. 1165 00:55:54,125 --> 00:55:55,562 Right? 1166 00:55:55,594 --> 00:55:56,763 Okay, get up on the pedestal. 1167 00:55:56,796 --> 00:55:57,964 I am not getting up on the pedestal. 1168 00:55:57,997 --> 00:55:59,165 - Come on, Grandma. - Come on. 1169 00:55:59,198 --> 00:56:00,799 - Come on. - Don't push me. 1170 00:56:00,832 --> 00:56:02,067 Oh! 1171 00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:04,536 Isn't it fun? We look like triplets. 1172 00:56:04,569 --> 00:56:06,672 I look like a bear. 1173 00:56:06,705 --> 00:56:08,707 You look like a beautiful bear. 1174 00:56:08,741 --> 00:56:10,944 - Oh. It's too much. - No. 1175 00:56:10,977 --> 00:56:12,978 I already have a coat. 1176 00:56:13,011 --> 00:56:15,781 I don't need it. 1177 00:56:15,814 --> 00:56:18,884 Why are you so unwilling to accept the love that God has for you? 1178 00:56:19,951 --> 00:56:21,654 Can you pay for this? 1179 00:56:21,687 --> 00:56:23,823 The pledges are rolling in, Mom. 1180 00:56:23,855 --> 00:56:26,024 People really like the show 1181 00:56:26,058 --> 00:56:29,930 and they're very happy to accept the love. 1182 00:56:31,730 --> 00:56:33,700 Take the coat, Mom. 1183 00:56:33,732 --> 00:56:35,968 Just take the coat. 1184 00:56:36,002 --> 00:56:37,070 Well... 1185 00:56:37,102 --> 00:56:38,938 Please, for me. 1186 00:56:40,540 --> 00:56:44,878 Well, it is attractive, and it's very, very warm. 1187 00:56:46,078 --> 00:56:47,046 I just feel like a million dollars. 1188 00:56:47,078 --> 00:56:49,114 - It looks great, Jim. - You think? 1189 00:56:49,147 --> 00:56:50,582 Yeah, very subtle. 1190 00:56:50,616 --> 00:56:52,585 I didn't feel a thing. Not a thing. 1191 00:56:52,618 --> 00:56:54,286 And I played golf the next day. 1192 00:56:54,319 --> 00:56:55,555 So, we'll have a girl's night. 1193 00:56:55,587 --> 00:56:56,656 We'll go to Maciano's, get some pasta. 1194 00:56:56,689 --> 00:56:57,723 Yes, yes. 1195 00:56:57,756 --> 00:56:59,525 - I love that place. - Yeah? Oh, wait. 1196 00:56:59,558 --> 00:57:01,995 You know, why don't you go ahead, I'm gonna catch up. 1197 00:57:02,027 --> 00:57:04,196 - I'm gonna go give Jim a kiss. - Okay. 1198 00:57:04,230 --> 00:57:05,232 See ya. 1199 00:57:06,698 --> 00:57:08,667 And that reporter from The Charlotte Observer 1200 00:57:08,701 --> 00:57:10,203 been poking around. 1201 00:57:10,236 --> 00:57:13,038 Calling some of our secretaries, asking for comments. 1202 00:57:13,071 --> 00:57:14,907 I'm gonna put a picture of that guy's butt... 1203 00:57:14,940 --> 00:57:17,944 ...on a punching bag 1204 00:57:17,977 --> 00:57:20,145 and I'm gonna use it for practice. 1205 00:57:21,180 --> 00:57:22,915 We need to talk about the deficit 1206 00:57:22,948 --> 00:57:24,850 we are running on the expansion to studio... 1207 00:57:24,884 --> 00:57:27,887 Phooey! Fletcher, no, you're such a worrywart. 1208 00:57:27,919 --> 00:57:29,988 We're gonna do a telethon next week. 1209 00:57:30,022 --> 00:57:32,025 The partners will not let us down. 1210 00:57:32,058 --> 00:57:33,693 Wanda, my nose is shiny. 1211 00:57:33,725 --> 00:57:34,893 - Mm-mm. - Yes, it is. 1212 00:57:34,926 --> 00:57:36,194 - No. - I'm telling you, Wanda. 1213 00:57:36,227 --> 00:57:38,096 - It's fine. - A little more powder, please. 1214 00:57:38,129 --> 00:57:39,598 Your nose isn't shiny, Jim. 1215 00:57:39,631 --> 00:57:40,700 You're just being fussy. 1216 00:57:40,732 --> 00:57:42,334 - Oh. - Wanda, tell him he's fussy. 1217 00:57:42,368 --> 00:57:43,937 You're fussy, Pastor Jim. 1218 00:57:43,969 --> 00:57:44,837 Oh, how dare you. 1219 00:57:44,870 --> 00:57:46,939 You're wearing as much as Tammy these days. 1220 00:57:48,308 --> 00:57:50,343 Careful, you'll end up looking like a clown. 1221 00:57:52,044 --> 00:57:54,346 - Stop it! You can't talk... - But you know it's true. 1222 00:57:54,379 --> 00:57:55,781 - You know it's true. - Fletcher. 1223 00:57:55,814 --> 00:57:57,616 You got Wanda laughing. 1224 00:57:57,649 --> 00:57:59,184 She's not laughing. What are you laughing at? 1225 00:57:59,218 --> 00:58:00,587 It's not funny. 1226 00:58:00,620 --> 00:58:02,288 It's not funny. 1227 00:58:02,321 --> 00:58:03,957 You guys! 1228 00:58:03,989 --> 00:58:06,125 Oh, I got a new one. 1229 00:58:06,158 --> 00:58:08,294 Penny, cover your ears. 1230 00:58:08,326 --> 00:58:10,095 What did the leper say to the prostitute? 1231 00:58:10,129 --> 00:58:11,764 - Oh, boy. - What? 1232 00:58:11,797 --> 00:58:13,333 "You can keep the tip." 1233 00:58:13,366 --> 00:58:14,734 Oh, shit. 1234 00:58:16,301 --> 00:58:17,736 Jim, you mean jerk! 1235 00:58:17,770 --> 00:58:19,138 You're gonna pay for that. 1236 00:58:19,171 --> 00:58:21,174 I went too far. I went too far. I'm sorry. 1237 00:58:22,207 --> 00:58:24,776 - I got you now. I got you now. - Wanda! Wanda! 1238 00:58:24,810 --> 00:58:25,878 Wanda, come here. 1239 00:58:25,910 --> 00:58:27,145 Come here and powder his nose. 1240 00:58:27,178 --> 00:58:28,381 - No! No! - "Wanda, help. 1241 00:58:28,413 --> 00:58:30,216 "Wanda. Wanda. 1242 00:58:31,183 --> 00:58:32,953 "My nose is shiny." 1243 00:58:33,919 --> 00:58:37,322 Let me powder your nose. Let me powder your nose. 1244 00:58:53,105 --> 00:58:56,242 * Somebody touched me 1245 00:58:56,274 --> 00:58:57,843 * Hallelujah 1246 00:58:57,877 --> 00:59:01,980 * Somebody touched me 1247 00:59:02,013 --> 00:59:06,652 * Oh, I was blind But praise His name 1248 00:59:06,685 --> 00:59:09,154 * I now can see 1249 00:59:10,955 --> 00:59:15,127 * I was in darkness 1250 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:19,364 * When Jesus found me 1251 00:59:19,397 --> 00:59:23,303 * But since He touched me 1252 00:59:25,471 --> 00:59:31,311 * I now am free * 1253 00:59:32,410 --> 00:59:33,712 Wow. 1254 00:59:33,745 --> 00:59:35,681 That was beautiful. That was lovely, Tam. 1255 00:59:35,714 --> 00:59:36,950 Gary. 1256 00:59:38,350 --> 00:59:40,286 Aren't you glad He touched you? 1257 00:59:40,319 --> 00:59:42,087 Truly. Yeah. 1258 00:59:44,457 --> 00:59:45,924 Hmm. 1259 00:59:45,957 --> 00:59:48,093 Well, this is perfect. I love this. 1260 00:59:48,127 --> 00:59:50,163 Well, it's all you, Tam, it's all you. 1261 00:59:50,196 --> 00:59:54,701 Oh, no. No, no. You know I couldn't do this without you. 1262 00:59:54,734 --> 00:59:58,171 You know, your voice makes me feel closer to Him. 1263 00:59:58,971 --> 01:00:00,974 Like He's right here. 1264 01:00:02,808 --> 01:00:03,943 He is. 1265 01:00:05,777 --> 01:00:07,212 Tam... 1266 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,252 when was the last time that you were touched 1267 01:00:15,020 --> 01:00:17,457 in the way that a woman like you should be touched? 1268 01:00:18,757 --> 01:00:21,194 Oh, well... 1269 01:00:22,495 --> 01:00:23,895 I'm eight months pregnant, Gary, 1270 01:00:23,928 --> 01:00:25,364 so back it up from there. 1271 01:00:26,399 --> 01:00:30,370 Does his touch tell you how talented you are? 1272 01:00:33,506 --> 01:00:34,841 Gary. 1273 01:00:34,873 --> 01:00:37,710 Do his eyes tell you how beautiful you are? 1274 01:00:40,980 --> 01:00:43,416 Does he listen to you? 1275 01:00:43,448 --> 01:00:45,451 Does he hear how amazing you are? 1276 01:00:46,484 --> 01:00:47,953 Tammy. 1277 01:00:47,986 --> 01:00:49,855 Yes. 1278 01:00:49,888 --> 01:00:52,791 Can I touch you like that? 1279 01:00:52,825 --> 01:00:57,062 In that way that you should be touched. 1280 01:01:01,399 --> 01:01:02,468 You can kiss me 1281 01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:03,803 - on my neck. - Okay. 1282 01:01:03,835 --> 01:01:05,872 - Don't leave a mark, okay? - Yeah. 1283 01:01:19,051 --> 01:01:20,219 Come here. 1284 01:01:21,219 --> 01:01:23,089 I wanna hold you. 1285 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,430 - Oh, no. Oh, no. - What? 1286 01:01:31,462 --> 01:01:33,298 - Leave them on. - All right. 1287 01:01:34,232 --> 01:01:35,535 Oh, you're so beautiful, Tammy. 1288 01:01:35,567 --> 01:01:37,069 Oh, you're so big. 1289 01:01:37,102 --> 01:01:38,538 Oh, yeah. 1290 01:01:39,605 --> 01:01:41,040 I like this. 1291 01:01:41,073 --> 01:01:42,174 Yeah. 1292 01:01:47,279 --> 01:01:49,415 What? What's wrong? 1293 01:01:49,448 --> 01:01:51,049 My water broke. 1294 01:01:54,620 --> 01:01:55,822 Mm. 1295 01:01:56,989 --> 01:01:58,891 You're so beautiful. 1296 01:02:06,631 --> 01:02:08,267 He's so precious, Jim. 1297 01:02:18,042 --> 01:02:19,546 Congratulations, Jim. 1298 01:02:37,997 --> 01:02:41,000 I understand that Gary drove you here? 1299 01:02:42,567 --> 01:02:46,205 We called the studio, Jim, but you were on the air. 1300 01:02:46,238 --> 01:02:49,375 Tammy was real upset that you weren't here for it. 1301 01:02:49,408 --> 01:02:51,944 No... 1302 01:02:51,977 --> 01:02:56,915 I'm just wonderful, Jim. I'm... I'm so wonderful. 1303 01:02:58,651 --> 01:03:00,219 We announced his birth on air. 1304 01:03:00,252 --> 01:03:02,522 We got a real surge in pledges. 1305 01:03:02,989 --> 01:03:03,956 Praise the Lord. 1306 01:03:03,989 --> 01:03:06,292 We're gonna get that expansion in Studio 3, 1307 01:03:06,325 --> 01:03:08,593 thanks to this little miracle. 1308 01:03:08,627 --> 01:03:11,063 Hmm. Congrats, Jim. 1309 01:03:11,096 --> 01:03:13,099 This is such a day of joy. 1310 01:03:15,968 --> 01:03:17,435 A day of celebration, 1311 01:03:17,469 --> 01:03:22,575 but I just can't help the feeling that something else is going on here. 1312 01:03:24,475 --> 01:03:26,478 That something depraved 1313 01:03:27,578 --> 01:03:28,981 taints this day. 1314 01:03:31,350 --> 01:03:35,621 Depraved is a very big word, Jim. 1315 01:03:35,654 --> 01:03:37,891 But it's a fitting word, isn't it, Tammy? 1316 01:03:42,660 --> 01:03:44,296 Yes, Jim. 1317 01:03:51,971 --> 01:03:56,208 Well, Fletcher's waiting outside 1318 01:03:56,241 --> 01:03:58,643 and he'll get this man back to Nashville, where he belongs. 1319 01:03:58,676 --> 01:04:00,979 - Oh, no. Jim, please, no. - Tammy. 1320 01:04:01,013 --> 01:04:02,648 - Please. - Tammy, I suggest 1321 01:04:02,681 --> 01:04:04,417 you don't talk right now. 1322 01:04:05,817 --> 01:04:07,085 Tammy. 1323 01:04:08,620 --> 01:04:11,190 Tammy, I hope you're not gonna let him do this. 1324 01:04:11,223 --> 01:04:13,259 Tammy? 1325 01:04:13,292 --> 01:04:16,529 I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. 1326 01:04:17,663 --> 01:04:19,165 Sorry. 1327 01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:24,536 I'm so sorry, Jim. 1328 01:04:28,239 --> 01:04:30,008 I'm so sorry. 1329 01:04:39,384 --> 01:04:41,152 Can you take the baby away from her, please? 1330 01:04:41,185 --> 01:04:43,256 Okay. All right. 1331 01:04:47,158 --> 01:04:49,561 Let me get you something to help you sleep, okay, honey? 1332 01:05:16,587 --> 01:05:20,325 Yes. That's exactly what I told you. 1333 01:05:20,359 --> 01:05:23,029 Formal living quarters for some of the staff. 1334 01:05:23,062 --> 01:05:24,096 Wow! 1335 01:05:24,129 --> 01:05:25,397 - Yes. - So ornate. 1336 01:05:25,431 --> 01:05:27,566 Inspired by European architect. 1337 01:05:27,598 --> 01:05:29,701 And over here, 1338 01:05:29,734 --> 01:05:33,305 that's the first Christian water park. 1339 01:05:33,337 --> 01:05:35,073 "We are fishers of men." 1340 01:05:35,107 --> 01:05:37,043 That's the bait. 1341 01:05:37,076 --> 01:05:38,611 That's good. 1342 01:05:38,643 --> 01:05:39,745 I wanted to show you this, too. 1343 01:05:39,777 --> 01:05:42,180 See, over here... Yes. 1344 01:05:42,214 --> 01:05:45,518 This is Old Jerusalem. 1345 01:05:45,551 --> 01:05:48,054 And it's a stunning replica. 1346 01:05:48,087 --> 01:05:49,822 Oh, it looks beautiful, Jim. 1347 01:05:49,855 --> 01:05:51,190 - Yeah. - So detailed. 1348 01:05:53,792 --> 01:05:57,096 You know what they say about details? God is in 'em. 1349 01:05:57,129 --> 01:05:59,698 - Yes. - That's right. 1350 01:05:59,730 --> 01:06:01,232 You know, for as long as I can remember, Roe, 1351 01:06:01,265 --> 01:06:05,570 I've dreamed of a vacation destination for Christian families to come to. 1352 01:06:05,603 --> 01:06:07,707 A place where they can, um... 1353 01:06:08,506 --> 01:06:09,707 Hey, Tam. 1354 01:06:09,741 --> 01:06:10,842 A place where they know 1355 01:06:10,875 --> 01:06:13,078 that their children are gonna be safe, you know? 1356 01:06:13,111 --> 01:06:14,245 Sure. 1357 01:06:14,279 --> 01:06:16,449 We're selling partnerships to fund it. 1358 01:06:16,482 --> 01:06:18,150 And that way, the partners, 1359 01:06:18,183 --> 01:06:20,319 they feel the sense of ownership 1360 01:06:20,352 --> 01:06:25,123 and a pride in this Christian paradise 1361 01:06:25,156 --> 01:06:26,792 that they've built. 1362 01:06:26,825 --> 01:06:33,498 Uh... Um, how many partnerships do you have to sell in order to fund it? 1363 01:06:33,531 --> 01:06:34,633 Hmm. Well... 1364 01:06:39,171 --> 01:06:40,772 a lot. 1365 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:42,741 Yes. 1366 01:06:42,774 --> 01:06:45,277 You know, because the partnerships we've already sold, 1367 01:06:46,712 --> 01:06:49,815 they've had to go to funding other projects. 1368 01:06:50,748 --> 01:06:53,352 - I see. - Yes. 1369 01:06:53,384 --> 01:06:55,254 But I've been praying on it. 1370 01:06:55,286 --> 01:06:57,323 I've been hoping that you could advance PTL 1371 01:06:57,355 --> 01:06:58,723 just a little bit of credit. 1372 01:07:00,192 --> 01:07:04,130 Just to get the bulldozers moving, you know? 1373 01:07:07,765 --> 01:07:08,800 Hi, honey. 1374 01:07:10,435 --> 01:07:12,805 Uh, this is Roe Messner. 1375 01:07:12,837 --> 01:07:14,839 He's the developer of Heritage USA. 1376 01:07:14,872 --> 01:07:16,608 Well, I'm not the developer yet. 1377 01:07:16,642 --> 01:07:18,210 Yeah. 1378 01:07:18,243 --> 01:07:19,245 Hi. 1379 01:07:24,283 --> 01:07:28,821 The doctors have had her on so many loopy things 1380 01:07:28,853 --> 01:07:31,623 since Jamie Charles was born. 1381 01:07:31,656 --> 01:07:34,926 Pills to make her normal. Pills to make her sleep. 1382 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,629 Um, as long as she's feelin' better. 1383 01:07:38,430 --> 01:07:40,565 Yes. Amen. 1384 01:07:41,933 --> 01:07:44,937 I love what you're trying to do here, Jim. 1385 01:07:44,969 --> 01:07:46,705 - Mm. - I do. 1386 01:07:46,738 --> 01:07:48,908 I spent some summers with my wife 1387 01:07:48,940 --> 01:07:50,343 at Knott's Berry Farm. 1388 01:07:51,576 --> 01:07:54,479 Every year the jellies got less and less fresh. 1389 01:07:54,513 --> 01:07:56,649 - Mm. - And I'm convinced 1390 01:07:56,681 --> 01:07:59,951 it's 'cause they started hiring the wrong kinds of people 1391 01:07:59,984 --> 01:08:01,187 to make the preserves. 1392 01:08:02,754 --> 01:08:04,556 I knew you were my man, Roe. 1393 01:08:04,589 --> 01:08:06,725 But, uh... 1394 01:08:07,859 --> 01:08:10,529 I'm not a gambler, Mr. Bakker. 1395 01:08:10,562 --> 01:08:12,931 - Oh, well... - Oh, this isn't gambling, Roe. 1396 01:08:14,332 --> 01:08:15,500 Oh, no, it's faith. 1397 01:08:16,867 --> 01:08:19,571 I have seen him perform miracles. 1398 01:08:20,538 --> 01:08:21,739 Huh. 1399 01:08:21,773 --> 01:08:24,709 I haven't had anyone claim to be a faith healer to my face 1400 01:08:24,742 --> 01:08:28,713 since I was about six years old. 1401 01:08:28,746 --> 01:08:32,283 Well, buildings are miracles. 1402 01:08:32,317 --> 01:08:33,618 Aren't they, Roe? 1403 01:08:33,652 --> 01:08:36,656 Well, it's amazing anything ever gets built, that's for sure. 1404 01:08:37,389 --> 01:08:38,891 Yeah. 1405 01:08:38,924 --> 01:08:41,660 This is beautiful. 1406 01:08:41,693 --> 01:08:44,697 We must take a leap of faith for God. 1407 01:08:44,729 --> 01:08:48,733 Especially when the Devil is makin' us doubt. 1408 01:08:48,767 --> 01:08:50,870 God's on our side, Roe. 1409 01:08:52,504 --> 01:08:54,340 Every time we fall, 1410 01:08:54,973 --> 01:08:58,443 God proves His love again 1411 01:08:58,477 --> 01:09:00,813 and we come back. 1412 01:09:00,845 --> 01:09:06,352 We come back bigger, and stronger, and better. 1413 01:09:12,456 --> 01:09:18,730 "All things work for good to them that love God, 1414 01:09:18,764 --> 01:09:25,438 "to them who are called according to His purpose." 1415 01:09:33,444 --> 01:09:35,982 And I called you, Roe. 1416 01:09:49,461 --> 01:09:51,497 You're welcome. 1417 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,270 You're owed a "thank you"? 1418 01:09:58,569 --> 01:10:01,773 He was nowhere near saying yes until I sat down. 1419 01:10:01,806 --> 01:10:05,010 Oh, yes, to flirt with him. 1420 01:10:09,848 --> 01:10:11,850 Are you gonna divorce me, Jim? 1421 01:10:12,917 --> 01:10:13,919 I don't know. 1422 01:10:16,388 --> 01:10:17,390 I should. 1423 01:10:20,559 --> 01:10:23,062 But God hates divorce. 1424 01:10:23,095 --> 01:10:25,064 It ruined your mother. 1425 01:10:26,063 --> 01:10:27,765 It'll do the same to you. 1426 01:10:27,799 --> 01:10:29,935 You stopped paying attention to me, Jim. 1427 01:10:29,968 --> 01:10:32,938 You broke faith with me, Tammy! 1428 01:10:32,970 --> 01:10:37,843 Gary, he told me that I was beautiful and that I was talented. 1429 01:10:37,876 --> 01:10:39,411 And he wanted me, Jim. 1430 01:10:39,443 --> 01:10:40,411 Don't touch me! 1431 01:10:40,444 --> 01:10:44,415 Gary wanted me, Jim, in ways that you don't. 1432 01:10:44,448 --> 01:10:46,050 Oh, my goodness. 1433 01:10:46,084 --> 01:10:48,354 He was my friend. 1434 01:10:48,386 --> 01:10:50,956 You know, I got a letter this week, Tammy. 1435 01:10:50,988 --> 01:10:52,890 From the President. 1436 01:10:52,924 --> 01:10:55,426 The President of the United States, 1437 01:10:55,460 --> 01:10:57,930 Ronald Reagan himself, wrote me a personal letter 1438 01:10:57,962 --> 01:11:02,800 thanking me for my support in his election! 1439 01:11:02,834 --> 01:11:05,671 I'm an important man, Tammy Faye! 1440 01:11:05,703 --> 01:11:09,541 And people don't treat important men the way that you treated me. 1441 01:11:11,977 --> 01:11:13,479 I'm gonna clear my head, I'm gonna pray. 1442 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:16,915 I'm gonna think about what I want. 1443 01:11:22,854 --> 01:11:24,457 Jim? 1444 01:11:47,045 --> 01:11:50,815 Oh, God. How can I fix this? 1445 01:11:53,952 --> 01:11:55,821 God? 1446 01:11:58,055 --> 01:11:59,491 Where'd you go? 1447 01:12:00,625 --> 01:12:01,993 Where are you? 1448 01:12:03,194 --> 01:12:05,096 Why can't I feel you? 1449 01:12:07,998 --> 01:12:09,501 Where are you? 1450 01:12:11,736 --> 01:12:14,006 Oh... 1451 01:12:17,007 --> 01:12:18,710 Where are you? 1452 01:12:18,742 --> 01:12:20,845 Tammy? Tammy, it's all right. 1453 01:12:20,879 --> 01:12:24,082 - Jim. - I'm here. I'm here. 1454 01:12:24,114 --> 01:12:26,919 It's all right. Shh. It's all right. 1455 01:12:31,889 --> 01:12:32,892 Um... 1456 01:12:33,858 --> 01:12:35,894 Tammy, I, um... 1457 01:12:37,028 --> 01:12:40,632 I prayed on it. And, um... 1458 01:12:41,700 --> 01:12:43,035 What? 1459 01:12:43,068 --> 01:12:45,904 You know, maybe I've been a better builder 1460 01:12:45,937 --> 01:12:47,739 than I've been a husband. 1461 01:12:50,608 --> 01:12:52,544 - Yeah. - Yes. 1462 01:12:52,577 --> 01:12:55,714 But I know for certain 1463 01:12:55,746 --> 01:12:59,784 that you are the only woman on Earth 1464 01:12:59,818 --> 01:13:01,687 who understands me. 1465 01:13:02,220 --> 01:13:05,724 Oh, honey. 1466 01:13:05,756 --> 01:13:07,960 It makes me so happy that you're saying that. 1467 01:13:07,992 --> 01:13:11,062 - Tammy. - Baby. 1468 01:13:11,095 --> 01:13:13,765 I'm sorry. 1469 01:13:14,765 --> 01:13:18,504 Oh... 1470 01:13:19,770 --> 01:13:21,706 You really hurt me. 1471 01:13:22,239 --> 01:13:23,843 I know, Jim. 1472 01:13:25,544 --> 01:13:27,746 And I think you have to apologize. 1473 01:13:27,778 --> 01:13:31,015 I'm sorry. Oh, I am so sorry, Jim. 1474 01:13:31,483 --> 01:13:33,018 To the partners. 1475 01:13:34,152 --> 01:13:37,122 - Mm? - On air. 1476 01:13:39,123 --> 01:13:40,158 Today. 1477 01:13:43,260 --> 01:13:45,663 Oh. 1478 01:13:45,697 --> 01:13:50,935 I learned the best lesson in my whole life 1479 01:13:50,969 --> 01:13:54,172 because of something terrible that I did 1480 01:13:54,205 --> 01:13:56,007 that I cannot take back. 1481 01:13:57,576 --> 01:14:00,245 I learned how much I love my husband, 1482 01:14:00,278 --> 01:14:02,948 how much I care for my husband. 1483 01:14:03,849 --> 01:14:06,218 And I learned a lesson of loneliness 1484 01:14:06,251 --> 01:14:08,721 such as I never experienced in my whole life. 1485 01:14:12,189 --> 01:14:15,192 All of a sudden, I realized 1486 01:14:15,225 --> 01:14:18,263 that there was a lot more to marriage 1487 01:14:18,295 --> 01:14:20,932 than just the sparkles. 1488 01:14:22,634 --> 01:14:25,069 We're with you, Tammy! 1489 01:14:25,103 --> 01:14:27,172 - PTL. - PTL. 1490 01:14:27,205 --> 01:14:30,207 - How can I help you? - Ah. Bless you. 1491 01:14:35,779 --> 01:14:39,050 Because of our satellite, from this moment on, 1492 01:14:39,084 --> 01:14:44,322 the PTL Television Network plans to broadcast 24 hours a day 1493 01:14:44,355 --> 01:14:46,925 till the second coming of Christ. 1494 01:14:46,957 --> 01:14:50,761 * Jesus keeps on takin' me higher and higher 1495 01:14:50,795 --> 01:14:54,199 * Higher and higher Higher and higher 1496 01:14:54,232 --> 01:14:58,002 * Jesus keeps on takin' me higher and higher 1497 01:14:58,036 --> 01:15:01,974 * Higher and higher Higher and higher 1498 01:15:02,006 --> 01:15:03,975 Hi, everybody! 1499 01:15:04,009 --> 01:15:06,944 God has a fixed law of giving. 1500 01:15:06,978 --> 01:15:08,279 * He gives me a shove Yeah 1501 01:15:08,313 --> 01:15:09,547 If you're not giving, 1502 01:15:09,581 --> 01:15:13,618 you cannot expect to have abundancy coming back to you. 1503 01:15:13,652 --> 01:15:15,220 If you aren't giving, 1504 01:15:15,252 --> 01:15:17,656 you're gonna have a harvest of misery! 1505 01:15:17,688 --> 01:15:19,056 You're gonna have 1506 01:15:19,090 --> 01:15:20,292 - a harvest of pain! - PTL. 1507 01:15:20,325 --> 01:15:23,194 You're gonna have a harvest of sickness! 1508 01:15:23,228 --> 01:15:24,630 If you can't go to Jerusalem, 1509 01:15:24,662 --> 01:15:25,531 you could come to Heritage 1510 01:15:25,563 --> 01:15:27,031 and you could go to the Upper Room. 1511 01:15:27,064 --> 01:15:29,667 Exactly what you could see in Jerusalem. 1512 01:15:29,701 --> 01:15:31,636 Except you don't have to get on a plane. 1513 01:15:31,670 --> 01:15:33,071 You know, if everyone watching 1514 01:15:33,104 --> 01:15:35,674 could double their pledge just for one month... 1515 01:15:35,706 --> 01:15:38,643 If you haven't sent your pledge for $15 a month, 1516 01:15:38,676 --> 01:15:42,413 do it now and I want to send you Susie Moppet puppets. 1517 01:15:42,447 --> 01:15:46,084 God becomes your source when you give 1518 01:15:46,117 --> 01:15:48,920 and you sow in his kingdom. 1519 01:15:48,952 --> 01:15:50,121 It works. 1520 01:15:50,154 --> 01:15:52,323 * Higher, higher, higher 1521 01:15:53,323 --> 01:15:54,326 * Whoo 1522 01:15:55,292 --> 01:15:57,228 * Wow 1523 01:15:57,261 --> 01:15:58,362 * Whoo 1524 01:15:58,397 --> 01:16:02,067 The PTL TV network is carrying out a master plan... 1525 01:16:02,099 --> 01:16:03,901 opening centers all across the country 1526 01:16:03,934 --> 01:16:06,671 to provide food, clothing, furniture, and job bank centers. 1527 01:16:06,705 --> 01:16:09,774 * Jesus keeps on leadin' me higher and higher 1528 01:16:14,446 --> 01:16:17,748 * Higher, higher Higher, higher 1529 01:16:17,782 --> 01:16:18,783 Hi, everybody. 1530 01:16:18,817 --> 01:16:22,721 * Higher, higher Higher, higher 1531 01:16:22,754 --> 01:16:25,290 * Higher, higher Whoo 1532 01:16:25,322 --> 01:16:28,259 * Higher, higher, higher Whoo 1533 01:16:28,292 --> 01:16:30,862 * Jesus keeps on leadin' me higher and higher 1534 01:16:30,894 --> 01:16:32,096 I've seen the rich 1535 01:16:32,130 --> 01:16:34,199 and I've seen people with little 1536 01:16:34,232 --> 01:16:36,268 who are more blessed 1537 01:16:36,300 --> 01:16:39,470 than the millionaires that I've known who are worried sick 1538 01:16:39,504 --> 01:16:41,372 'cause the stock market doesn't know what it's doing! 1539 01:16:41,406 --> 01:16:43,041 It's going up, it's going down! 1540 01:16:43,073 --> 01:16:45,943 But people who have sown seed in the word of God, 1541 01:16:45,977 --> 01:16:48,046 their stock is always up! 1542 01:16:48,078 --> 01:16:50,916 * Higher and higher * 1543 01:16:57,121 --> 01:16:58,856 That's why we chose this plot. 1544 01:16:58,889 --> 01:17:00,024 And with the help of your investment, 1545 01:17:00,058 --> 01:17:02,828 we could build a shopping complex around the hotel 1546 01:17:02,861 --> 01:17:04,962 and then we're going to have a trolley. 1547 01:17:04,996 --> 01:17:05,830 Mm. 1548 01:17:05,863 --> 01:17:08,399 It's gonna wrap around the whole place, 1549 01:17:08,433 --> 01:17:12,237 making stops at everywhere there at Heritage Island, the Heritage Grand, 1550 01:17:12,269 --> 01:17:17,776 and then here at what is going to be our coliseum. 1551 01:17:17,809 --> 01:17:19,010 We're gonna have a coliseum. 1552 01:17:19,042 --> 01:17:20,845 - Coliseum. - Yes. 1553 01:17:20,879 --> 01:17:23,314 You planning on sacrificing Christians? 1554 01:17:24,148 --> 01:17:27,118 Oh, no. No. 1555 01:17:27,152 --> 01:17:30,989 Oh, Jerry, no. We rise again in our coliseum. 1556 01:17:31,022 --> 01:17:33,792 This is, uh, gonna be Christian rock concerts. 1557 01:17:33,825 --> 01:17:35,393 Something for the kids. 1558 01:17:35,425 --> 01:17:39,263 I really wish you wouldn't encourage these blasphemers. 1559 01:17:42,399 --> 01:17:46,036 - Isn't it beautiful? - It really is. Mm-hmm. 1560 01:17:46,069 --> 01:17:48,305 The trees, the oxygen is... 1561 01:17:48,339 --> 01:17:50,375 Are you cold? 1562 01:17:50,407 --> 01:17:52,443 Are you... 1563 01:17:52,477 --> 01:17:55,113 Stupid question. Of course you're not cold. 1564 01:17:55,145 --> 01:17:57,950 - Sorry. - Oh, I'm super. 1565 01:18:03,888 --> 01:18:04,956 So, what do you think, Reverend? 1566 01:18:04,988 --> 01:18:07,959 We would be tickled pink to have your support. 1567 01:18:07,992 --> 01:18:08,960 - Jim? - Yes? 1568 01:18:08,992 --> 01:18:11,395 The coalition that we delivered to Reagan, 1569 01:18:11,429 --> 01:18:13,532 Vice President Bush... 1570 01:18:13,564 --> 01:18:16,535 well, he's counting on us doing the same thing for him in '88. 1571 01:18:17,234 --> 01:18:18,237 Um... 1572 01:18:19,537 --> 01:18:22,340 You know that Pat called me 1573 01:18:22,372 --> 01:18:26,178 and he told me that he's thinking about making a bid for President. 1574 01:18:26,211 --> 01:18:28,380 Pat Robertson's a good man. 1575 01:18:28,412 --> 01:18:31,015 But if he runs, he'll peel away vital Republican votes. 1576 01:18:32,282 --> 01:18:34,486 We're in a fight here, Jim. 1577 01:18:34,519 --> 01:18:39,157 This gay cancer is affecting our country, our families. 1578 01:18:39,189 --> 01:18:41,292 Republicans can't win without us. 1579 01:18:42,926 --> 01:18:45,095 You need to understand how powerful we are 1580 01:18:45,129 --> 01:18:47,498 in this fight for our nation's soul. 1581 01:18:48,065 --> 01:18:49,468 Mm. 1582 01:18:49,501 --> 01:18:52,437 We should just stay out of it and keep politics out of the church. 1583 01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:55,473 Too much on the line. 1584 01:18:55,505 --> 01:19:00,845 Democrats are already trying to strip away our churches' tax exempt status. 1585 01:19:02,746 --> 01:19:06,551 Oh, this time, we'll keep the evangelicals in the tent. 1586 01:19:08,452 --> 01:19:10,087 When's lunch? 1587 01:19:10,121 --> 01:19:11,156 Well, hello, everyone, 1588 01:19:11,188 --> 01:19:13,257 it's just so nice to have you here with us. 1589 01:19:13,291 --> 01:19:17,229 We have an experience today that really is touching to me. 1590 01:19:17,261 --> 01:19:19,630 Right here on my right, I have a young man named Steve Pieters, 1591 01:19:19,663 --> 01:19:22,000 and I'd like to introduce you to Steve. 1592 01:19:22,032 --> 01:19:24,568 Steve is a patient of AIDS 1593 01:19:24,602 --> 01:19:28,372 and he's so generously allowed us to talk to him today. 1594 01:19:28,406 --> 01:19:31,443 He is presently taking chemotherapy and is unable to travel. 1595 01:19:31,475 --> 01:19:35,546 So, we have a satellite hookup live from LA. 1596 01:19:35,580 --> 01:19:38,350 - Hello, Steve! - Hi, Tammy. 1597 01:19:38,382 --> 01:19:41,118 We're so glad to see you. 1598 01:19:41,152 --> 01:19:42,953 I'm so happy I could be here. 1599 01:19:42,987 --> 01:19:45,323 Okay, Steve. At what time in your life 1600 01:19:45,355 --> 01:19:47,992 did you feel like you were different? 1601 01:19:48,026 --> 01:19:51,263 Did you feel like maybe you weren't like some of the other guys? 1602 01:19:51,295 --> 01:19:55,666 I realized I was gay when I was about 11 or 12. 1603 01:19:55,700 --> 01:19:59,237 I talked with a pastor in the church where I grew up 1604 01:19:59,269 --> 01:20:01,505 and, um, he was freaked out. 1605 01:20:01,538 --> 01:20:02,407 Mm. 1606 01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:06,477 He told me, "Don't tell anybody." 1607 01:20:06,510 --> 01:20:10,147 Never tell anybody anything about it 1608 01:20:10,180 --> 01:20:11,215 and it will go away, 1609 01:20:12,250 --> 01:20:14,953 but it didn't go away. 1610 01:20:14,986 --> 01:20:15,921 Okay, I have another question. 1611 01:20:15,953 --> 01:20:17,656 So, the satellite is directly above us? 1612 01:20:17,688 --> 01:20:19,690 Yes, it orbits us. 1613 01:20:19,724 --> 01:20:23,495 That's how we're able to reach so many folks just simultaneously. 1614 01:20:23,528 --> 01:20:25,397 Let me ask you, Jerry, what's your viewership 1615 01:20:25,429 --> 01:20:26,764 over at Liberty Broadcasting? 1616 01:20:26,797 --> 01:20:31,135 Oh, well, I'm proud to say that we reach three million viewers a day. 1617 01:20:31,169 --> 01:20:35,340 My goodness. Praise God. That's just wonderful. 1618 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,175 And you? 1619 01:20:38,209 --> 01:20:42,147 Well, we here at PTL, we reach 20 million viewers a day 1620 01:20:42,179 --> 01:20:46,150 in 56 countries just because of that miracle 1621 01:20:46,184 --> 01:20:48,119 up there in the sky. 1622 01:20:48,152 --> 01:20:50,288 Oh, let's see who Tammy's talking to. 1623 01:20:50,321 --> 01:20:51,456 And, Steve, because of this feeling, 1624 01:20:51,488 --> 01:20:52,623 did you try to make friends with girls? 1625 01:20:52,657 --> 01:20:55,427 And did you try to be around girls and everything 1626 01:20:55,460 --> 01:20:56,694 so no one would think anything? 1627 01:20:56,728 --> 01:20:58,697 Oh, sure, I dated girls. 1628 01:20:58,729 --> 01:21:02,134 I tried to "program" myself to be straight 1629 01:21:02,634 --> 01:21:04,502 and it never worked. 1630 01:21:04,535 --> 01:21:06,171 So, what made you feel... 1631 01:21:06,203 --> 01:21:07,404 And what's this, Jim? 1632 01:21:07,438 --> 01:21:09,239 ...like there was no way for you to be straight? 1633 01:21:09,273 --> 01:21:10,976 I don't know. 1634 01:21:11,009 --> 01:21:13,144 - This is not... - It was from meeting 1635 01:21:13,176 --> 01:21:16,747 other gay people who were happy with the way they were 1636 01:21:16,781 --> 01:21:19,751 that made me realize I could be happy with the way I am. 1637 01:21:19,783 --> 01:21:21,987 Now, I find this problematic. 1638 01:21:22,019 --> 01:21:23,687 Yes. Well, you know Tammy, 1639 01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,123 she... she connects in her own way and... 1640 01:21:26,157 --> 01:21:28,526 Okay, Steve. What did you feel 1641 01:21:28,559 --> 01:21:32,430 when you first heard the word AIDS? 1642 01:21:32,462 --> 01:21:34,366 Was it just a word to you, Steve? 1643 01:21:34,398 --> 01:21:38,303 Well, yes. Why would it hurt me? I was a good Christian pastor. 1644 01:21:38,336 --> 01:21:40,238 I... I can't look at this. 1645 01:21:40,270 --> 01:21:41,605 No. 1646 01:21:41,639 --> 01:21:43,675 She must have programmed it last minute or... 1647 01:21:43,707 --> 01:21:45,009 You need to get her under control. 1648 01:21:45,042 --> 01:21:47,478 No, no. Let me help. 1649 01:21:47,511 --> 01:21:50,547 Believe you me, I will be having words with her. 1650 01:21:50,581 --> 01:21:51,616 - She's been acting very... - Jim. 1651 01:21:51,648 --> 01:21:52,683 Yes? 1652 01:21:52,716 --> 01:21:54,251 We have our differences. 1653 01:21:55,653 --> 01:21:58,590 People forget sometimes a pastor needs a pastor. 1654 01:21:58,622 --> 01:22:00,125 As Jesus says in Mark 5... 1655 01:22:00,825 --> 01:22:02,460 Reach out. 1656 01:22:02,492 --> 01:22:03,562 Yes. 1657 01:22:05,295 --> 01:22:06,697 What happened when you told your mom and dad 1658 01:22:06,730 --> 01:22:08,065 that you were feeling this way? 1659 01:22:08,099 --> 01:22:10,802 - Well, my mother cried. - Uh-huh. 1660 01:22:10,835 --> 01:22:13,605 And my father held my hand 1661 01:22:13,638 --> 01:22:17,042 and told me that I was his son, no matter what. 1662 01:22:17,075 --> 01:22:19,277 Ah, thank God. 1663 01:22:19,309 --> 01:22:22,513 You know, thank God for a mom and dad 1664 01:22:22,546 --> 01:22:25,149 who will stand with a young person. 1665 01:22:25,183 --> 01:22:26,551 I think that's so important 1666 01:22:26,585 --> 01:22:29,421 because no matter what happens to a young person in their lives, 1667 01:22:29,453 --> 01:22:32,322 they're still your boy, they're still your girl 1668 01:22:32,355 --> 01:22:33,491 no matter what happens in their life. 1669 01:22:33,523 --> 01:22:35,259 And I think it's very important 1670 01:22:35,292 --> 01:22:38,563 that we as mom and dads love through anything. 1671 01:22:38,595 --> 01:22:40,631 And that's the way with Jesus, you know? 1672 01:22:40,665 --> 01:22:43,068 Jesus loves us through anything. 1673 01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:45,170 Jesus loves me just the way I am. 1674 01:22:45,202 --> 01:22:48,540 Jesus loves the way that I love. 1675 01:22:48,572 --> 01:22:50,808 And have you found it to be true 1676 01:22:50,841 --> 01:22:52,477 that people wanna stay away 1677 01:22:52,510 --> 01:22:55,613 and that they're afraid to be in the same room as you 1678 01:22:55,645 --> 01:22:57,616 and breathe the same air that you breathe? 1679 01:22:58,416 --> 01:22:59,418 Yes, Tammy. 1680 01:23:00,218 --> 01:23:03,287 And how sad is that? 1681 01:23:03,321 --> 01:23:05,590 That we as Christians 1682 01:23:05,622 --> 01:23:09,359 who are supposed to love everyone 1683 01:23:09,393 --> 01:23:12,764 are afraid so badly of an AIDS patient 1684 01:23:13,464 --> 01:23:15,733 that we will not go up to them 1685 01:23:15,765 --> 01:23:18,135 and put our arm around them 1686 01:23:18,169 --> 01:23:20,604 and tell them that we care? 1687 01:23:26,844 --> 01:23:28,880 This is an emotional interview for me. 1688 01:23:28,912 --> 01:23:30,080 I just met Steve 1689 01:23:30,113 --> 01:23:32,750 and it's like meeting him in person for the first time. 1690 01:23:32,782 --> 01:23:34,419 I wanna put my arm around you. 1691 01:23:34,452 --> 01:23:36,354 And I wanna put my arms around you, Tammy Faye. 1692 01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:43,795 - PTL. - PTL. 1693 01:23:45,395 --> 01:23:46,665 That's very good. Yes. 1694 01:23:48,632 --> 01:23:50,300 Every time she calls, she screams, 1695 01:23:50,334 --> 01:23:51,702 "Jim and his buddy had sex on me." 1696 01:23:51,736 --> 01:23:53,270 - Okay. Shh. - "Now, I'm gonna kill myself. 1697 01:23:53,304 --> 01:23:55,607 "Jim Bakker'll have my gosh darn blood on his hands." 1698 01:23:55,639 --> 01:23:56,473 Now... 1699 01:23:56,507 --> 01:23:57,841 Never heard so many curse words. 1700 01:23:57,875 --> 01:23:59,144 Not even from my brother Pete. 1701 01:23:59,176 --> 01:24:00,211 Right. 1702 01:24:00,245 --> 01:24:01,712 - Did a caller upset you, dear? - Tammy... 1703 01:24:01,746 --> 01:24:02,913 Yes. 1704 01:24:02,947 --> 01:24:05,150 Oh, I'm so sorry. You know, when we do shows like this, 1705 01:24:05,183 --> 01:24:08,353 really, we're challenging Christians to open their hearts. 1706 01:24:08,385 --> 01:24:10,654 - And some don't take it that well. - Tammy, I will handle this. 1707 01:24:10,688 --> 01:24:12,257 Oh, no, I have this, Richard. 1708 01:24:12,290 --> 01:24:15,225 It wasn't about the AIDS man. It was about Jim. 1709 01:24:15,259 --> 01:24:17,729 She's called before. We all call her "The Shrieker." 1710 01:24:17,761 --> 01:24:19,898 She says Jim and his buddy had sex on her. 1711 01:24:19,930 --> 01:24:21,598 Tammy, you're needed on stage four. 1712 01:24:21,631 --> 01:24:24,368 Gosh, we've been having these pranks for a long time. 1713 01:24:24,402 --> 01:24:26,738 And some people, they're just hurting so bad 1714 01:24:26,770 --> 01:24:29,340 and we just need to love them. 1715 01:24:29,372 --> 01:24:31,910 Anyway, Jim doesn't have that in him. Believe me. 1716 01:24:33,344 --> 01:24:35,480 I know him better than anyone. 1717 01:24:58,402 --> 01:24:59,871 Join the PTL Club, 1718 01:24:59,903 --> 01:25:02,739 and Tammy wants to send you a copy of her book... 1719 01:25:02,773 --> 01:25:06,644 about how to overcome fear. 1720 01:25:06,676 --> 01:25:09,846 If you haven't sent in your pledge... 1721 01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,283 $15, that is all, $15 a month, 1722 01:25:12,315 --> 01:25:14,952 it'll change your life 1723 01:25:14,986 --> 01:25:17,522 and, uh, we could all use a little bit of that. 1724 01:25:17,554 --> 01:25:19,990 So, Tammy, I think you oughta sing a song for us. 1725 01:25:20,023 --> 01:25:22,794 Oh, I'm back here looking at the boat, Jim. 1726 01:25:22,827 --> 01:25:24,229 Isn't this a magnificent thing? 1727 01:25:24,261 --> 01:25:25,496 Yes. 1728 01:25:25,528 --> 01:25:26,697 Right here in our beach. 1729 01:25:26,730 --> 01:25:29,300 Looks brand new, I bet. 1730 01:25:29,332 --> 01:25:30,468 One of the local boat companies 1731 01:25:30,501 --> 01:25:31,936 - loaned it to us, I bet. - I'm gonna take my shoes off. 1732 01:25:31,969 --> 01:25:34,939 I'm gonna wade in the water. 1733 01:25:34,971 --> 01:25:38,343 I don't think that boat's ever seen water. 1734 01:25:38,376 --> 01:25:40,278 Oh, it's fake. That's... 1735 01:25:41,444 --> 01:25:42,613 That's why. 1736 01:25:44,715 --> 01:25:46,484 "That's why" what, Tam? 1737 01:25:48,685 --> 01:25:50,420 That's why I can't hear Him. 1738 01:25:50,453 --> 01:25:51,488 Oh. 1739 01:25:52,756 --> 01:25:55,227 How can I hear Him when the sky is fake? 1740 01:25:56,327 --> 01:25:57,695 You want to stand up, honey? 1741 01:25:57,728 --> 01:25:59,364 We're trying to do a TV show here, baby. 1742 01:25:59,397 --> 01:26:00,564 You wanna come give me some help? 1743 01:26:01,698 --> 01:26:03,234 No? Well... 1744 01:26:06,836 --> 01:26:09,806 I guess it's a good time as any to work on the tan. 1745 01:26:12,510 --> 01:26:15,513 Well, if Tammy's not going to sing, I guess I am. 1746 01:26:15,545 --> 01:26:16,580 * Oh, we're blest 1747 01:26:16,613 --> 01:26:17,748 * We're blest, we're blest * 1748 01:26:20,550 --> 01:26:22,352 We just got her home. 1749 01:26:22,385 --> 01:26:24,421 She's doing okay, she's fine. 1750 01:26:24,455 --> 01:26:28,593 No, yeah. We'll be taking her to the Betty Ford Center in the morning. 1751 01:26:28,626 --> 01:26:32,864 She just needs to rest. No shows for a while. 1752 01:26:32,897 --> 01:26:35,433 What's happening with the other thing? 1753 01:26:37,001 --> 01:26:40,805 Can I just say I love you so much? 1754 01:26:40,837 --> 01:26:42,873 I love you. 1755 01:26:42,907 --> 01:26:46,944 My friends are gonna be so excited when I tell them that I met you. 1756 01:26:53,951 --> 01:26:55,653 Tammy? 1757 01:26:55,685 --> 01:26:58,489 You had enough drugs in your system to kill a truck driver. 1758 01:26:59,523 --> 01:27:00,491 I did? 1759 01:27:00,523 --> 01:27:02,626 The doctor told us if you'd waited a day longer, 1760 01:27:02,660 --> 01:27:04,562 you would have had brain damage. 1761 01:27:04,595 --> 01:27:06,898 You could have died. 1762 01:27:06,930 --> 01:27:08,799 You can't take all those pills, honey. 1763 01:27:08,832 --> 01:27:09,866 They're addictive. 1764 01:27:09,899 --> 01:27:12,002 I didn't know that. I'll stop. 1765 01:27:12,036 --> 01:27:14,372 The doctors didn't tell me that. 1766 01:27:14,404 --> 01:27:16,407 I'm not a drug addict. 1767 01:27:17,541 --> 01:27:19,411 I'm only addicted to Diet Coke. 1768 01:27:20,443 --> 01:27:22,714 You have to stay right here. 1769 01:27:24,148 --> 01:27:25,684 God doesn't want you yet. 1770 01:27:26,716 --> 01:27:28,752 I have always prayed to Him 1771 01:27:28,786 --> 01:27:32,424 that He would allow you to save the souls that I wasn't able to. 1772 01:27:33,757 --> 01:27:35,460 And He has. 1773 01:27:36,059 --> 01:27:37,062 You do. 1774 01:27:38,496 --> 01:27:41,800 So, you have to stay right here. 1775 01:27:43,666 --> 01:27:44,768 Okay? 1776 01:27:45,836 --> 01:27:47,605 Okay, Mom. 1777 01:28:23,974 --> 01:28:24,976 Tammy. 1778 01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:28,011 Oh. Hi, Jim. 1779 01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,550 The Devil's coming for me, Tammy. 1780 01:28:34,452 --> 01:28:37,488 Can we talk about Satan later? 1781 01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,523 You know, I'm trying to feel like myself again. 1782 01:28:39,556 --> 01:28:41,091 There was a woman... 1783 01:28:44,761 --> 01:28:46,898 Fletcher set it up 1784 01:28:46,930 --> 01:28:52,702 after you did what you did with Gary. 1785 01:28:52,736 --> 01:28:56,507 I did it to prove something to myself, I think. I... I don't know. 1786 01:28:57,507 --> 01:28:59,010 I hated it. 1787 01:29:01,879 --> 01:29:05,015 I ended up just crying in the bathroom. 1788 01:29:11,822 --> 01:29:13,056 I fell... 1789 01:29:14,825 --> 01:29:16,528 a long way. 1790 01:29:18,127 --> 01:29:19,464 I'm so sorry. 1791 01:29:24,201 --> 01:29:26,171 Say something. 1792 01:29:29,806 --> 01:29:31,742 I've been hurting so bad, Jim. 1793 01:29:32,675 --> 01:29:34,044 For years. 1794 01:29:36,514 --> 01:29:39,150 And there's never any release to the pain. 1795 01:29:40,718 --> 01:29:43,488 There's never anything to make it stop hurting. 1796 01:29:44,854 --> 01:29:48,024 And when I get up in the morning, 1797 01:29:48,058 --> 01:29:50,060 I feel like I'm just gonna throw up... 1798 01:29:51,261 --> 01:29:54,064 and throw up, and throw up. 1799 01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:59,837 And I have to self-talk myself, "You can make it, Tammy. 1800 01:29:59,870 --> 01:30:01,738 "You can make it. 1801 01:30:01,772 --> 01:30:03,942 "Don't give up." 1802 01:30:08,612 --> 01:30:10,915 Damn it, Jim! 1803 01:30:12,950 --> 01:30:17,921 I'm so sick from my faith in you! 1804 01:30:20,858 --> 01:30:23,261 Well, I'm sick of you, too. 1805 01:30:25,895 --> 01:30:29,800 You try being married to Tammy Faye. 1806 01:30:29,832 --> 01:30:33,970 All I've been doing is trying to keep our marriage together, 1807 01:30:34,004 --> 01:30:37,274 keep the ministry together, working night and day 1808 01:30:37,308 --> 01:30:40,611 while you're just buying minks 1809 01:30:40,644 --> 01:30:42,947 and drinking soda pop 1810 01:30:42,979 --> 01:30:47,084 and cheating on me with that ape! 1811 01:30:51,220 --> 01:30:53,991 You used to take care of me, Tammy. 1812 01:30:54,023 --> 01:30:55,725 You stopped taking care of me. 1813 01:30:55,759 --> 01:30:58,162 I don't wanna take care of you, Jim. 1814 01:30:58,194 --> 01:31:00,697 I don't wanna be your mother. 1815 01:31:00,730 --> 01:31:03,600 A woman needs a man in a relationship! 1816 01:31:03,634 --> 01:31:05,870 - I am a man! - You're a boy. 1817 01:31:05,903 --> 01:31:07,672 I built all of this. I built you an empire. 1818 01:31:07,705 --> 01:31:09,774 You built you an empire. 1819 01:31:09,806 --> 01:31:12,710 No man could ever give you enough. 1820 01:31:12,742 --> 01:31:15,645 You're a bottomless pit. 1821 01:31:15,679 --> 01:31:18,049 And you keep on asking me for more 1822 01:31:18,081 --> 01:31:23,653 with that whiny, grating Betty Boop voice! 1823 01:31:39,236 --> 01:31:40,939 I thought you liked Betty Boop. 1824 01:31:44,340 --> 01:31:45,776 I'm sorry. 1825 01:31:46,743 --> 01:31:49,013 I'm so sorry, Tammy. 1826 01:31:49,045 --> 01:31:50,314 Me, too, Jim. 1827 01:31:51,215 --> 01:31:52,584 Um... 1828 01:31:55,051 --> 01:32:00,323 There's another thing. The woman... 1829 01:32:00,357 --> 01:32:05,630 I gave her money to stay quiet, but she didn't. 1830 01:32:05,662 --> 01:32:06,496 And, um... 1831 01:32:06,531 --> 01:32:09,033 And the money came from PTL donors. 1832 01:32:09,065 --> 01:32:10,201 Jim. 1833 01:32:10,233 --> 01:32:12,002 And Charles Shepard has the story from The Observer. 1834 01:32:12,036 --> 01:32:13,136 And he's gonna print it tomorrow. 1835 01:32:13,170 --> 01:32:15,373 Oh, my God. 1836 01:32:19,309 --> 01:32:21,980 - I just... I know... - Jim. Oh, my God. 1837 01:32:24,313 --> 01:32:26,084 I destroyed everything. 1838 01:32:27,785 --> 01:32:29,687 Our life's work, Jim. 1839 01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:30,855 I know. 1840 01:32:31,955 --> 01:32:33,291 Tammy. 1841 01:32:34,791 --> 01:32:37,694 Tam, my sweetheart, 1842 01:32:39,095 --> 01:32:42,299 if anyone falls, it's gonna be me. 1843 01:32:42,331 --> 01:32:45,769 You can let me be the man that I was meant to be for you. 1844 01:32:46,970 --> 01:32:49,073 You don't know anything. 1845 01:32:52,276 --> 01:32:53,778 Oh, they're here. 1846 01:32:53,810 --> 01:32:54,944 Who's that? 1847 01:32:54,978 --> 01:32:56,413 It's all right. 1848 01:32:58,014 --> 01:32:59,983 These are the men that are gonna help me fix this. 1849 01:33:00,416 --> 01:33:02,085 Oh, no, Jim. 1850 01:33:02,118 --> 01:33:04,822 - No, no. - Reverend. Thank you so much. 1851 01:33:04,854 --> 01:33:06,456 - Thank you so much for coming. - Jim. 1852 01:33:06,489 --> 01:33:09,126 Oh, it's love that carried me here today. 1853 01:33:09,158 --> 01:33:11,194 - God bless you. - Tammy Faye. 1854 01:33:11,795 --> 01:33:13,029 Jerry. 1855 01:33:13,063 --> 01:33:15,065 Come in, please. Please come in. Welcome. 1856 01:33:15,099 --> 01:33:17,001 Thank you. Thank you for coming, fellas. 1857 01:33:17,033 --> 01:33:18,169 All right. 1858 01:33:18,969 --> 01:33:20,805 Well, here we are. 1859 01:33:20,837 --> 01:33:23,974 We think it's best that we create a distance 1860 01:33:24,006 --> 01:33:26,109 between you and the ministry. 1861 01:33:26,143 --> 01:33:28,112 It'll only be for a couple of weeks. 1862 01:33:28,144 --> 01:33:31,748 Then, gradually, we'll bring you back on the network 1863 01:33:31,782 --> 01:33:33,884 after all this unpleasantness settles down. 1864 01:33:33,916 --> 01:33:37,153 Jerry, you're a Baptist. You know, you're not a charismatic. 1865 01:33:37,187 --> 01:33:39,055 And our audience won't like that. 1866 01:33:39,089 --> 01:33:40,425 - Right, Jim? - Audience? 1867 01:33:41,224 --> 01:33:43,193 I thought they were parishioners. 1868 01:33:43,227 --> 01:33:44,929 They are. 1869 01:33:44,961 --> 01:33:47,163 They're our partners. We call them partners. 1870 01:33:47,197 --> 01:33:48,399 Mm. 1871 01:33:48,431 --> 01:33:50,300 20 million souls a day 1872 01:33:50,334 --> 01:33:53,804 touched by The Word. Thanks to PTL. 1873 01:33:53,836 --> 01:33:55,004 Mm. 1874 01:33:55,037 --> 01:33:56,840 You go back there right away, and... 1875 01:33:58,242 --> 01:33:59,810 Well, bless your hearts. 1876 01:33:59,843 --> 01:34:03,781 Look at the two of you right now, so very pitiful. 1877 01:34:03,813 --> 01:34:06,149 They see you, and they'll change the channel. 1878 01:34:07,885 --> 01:34:09,420 Jim, 1879 01:34:09,452 --> 01:34:11,822 all those souls you won 1880 01:34:13,055 --> 01:34:14,991 for Jesus... 1881 01:34:16,492 --> 01:34:18,828 I'm here for you. 1882 01:34:18,862 --> 01:34:20,998 - Thank you, Reverend. - Mm. 1883 01:34:24,568 --> 01:34:27,071 Just make sure you take care of our partners. 1884 01:34:28,404 --> 01:34:30,373 That is the only thing that matters now. 1885 01:34:40,884 --> 01:34:42,886 You're watching PTL, 1886 01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:44,889 The Inspirational Network. 1887 01:34:47,825 --> 01:34:49,894 Tammy and I are so very glad 1888 01:34:49,926 --> 01:34:54,430 that we've been granted the opportunity to talk with you today, 1889 01:34:54,464 --> 01:34:56,100 and, um... 1890 01:34:56,132 --> 01:34:57,568 Say hello. 1891 01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:59,237 Hello, everybody. 1892 01:34:59,836 --> 01:35:01,037 And... 1893 01:35:01,839 --> 01:35:04,073 we want to say to you 1894 01:35:04,107 --> 01:35:09,212 that we are so very, very sorry. 1895 01:35:09,246 --> 01:35:12,516 And to thank the people who are standing with us all over, 1896 01:35:12,549 --> 01:35:15,352 saying, "Jim, we do forgive you. 1897 01:35:15,385 --> 01:35:19,223 "We forgive Jim and Tammy of all of their sins." 1898 01:35:19,255 --> 01:35:23,226 And we're so thankful that God has forgiven us. 1899 01:35:23,260 --> 01:35:25,896 We don't know what the future holds, 1900 01:35:25,929 --> 01:35:27,931 but I believe, Tammy. 1901 01:35:27,965 --> 01:35:30,201 'Cause the God I know is still God. 1902 01:35:30,233 --> 01:35:33,169 I believe that the sun will shine again. 1903 01:35:33,202 --> 01:35:34,571 Oh, I do, too, Jim. 1904 01:35:34,604 --> 01:35:36,873 Do you wanna sing it? Can you do it? 1905 01:35:36,907 --> 01:35:38,576 - I sure will. - All right. 1906 01:35:38,608 --> 01:35:42,412 All right, Tammy Faye is going to sing a song for us. 1907 01:35:44,014 --> 01:35:45,282 Well, maybe you're hurting, 1908 01:35:45,314 --> 01:35:47,218 and you need this song today, too. 1909 01:35:47,251 --> 01:35:50,888 So I'll sing it for both of us, okay? 1910 01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:56,059 * The sun will shine again 1911 01:35:56,093 --> 01:36:02,366 * Now, if you are facing a mountain so high 1912 01:36:02,398 --> 01:36:09,572 * That just won't move away 1913 01:36:09,605 --> 01:36:13,576 We've heard about your sinful behavior. 1914 01:36:13,609 --> 01:36:18,049 If you tell us what we need to know about Jim Bakker, 1915 01:36:19,049 --> 01:36:21,151 we can protect you. 1916 01:36:21,184 --> 01:36:24,654 * Oh-ho, listen, my brother 1917 01:36:24,688 --> 01:36:27,892 We don't want them destitute. 1918 01:36:27,925 --> 01:36:29,927 They're children of God. 1919 01:36:30,460 --> 01:36:31,929 We want to make sure 1920 01:36:31,961 --> 01:36:35,498 we don't leave them stranded in the desert. 1921 01:36:44,107 --> 01:36:46,377 Write it down, what you make, 1922 01:36:46,410 --> 01:36:48,946 what you need, every little thing. 1923 01:36:48,979 --> 01:36:54,251 While you're in your time of healing, he wants you to be safe and provided for. 1924 01:36:54,283 --> 01:36:56,987 I told him how fragile you are. 1925 01:36:57,019 --> 01:37:00,357 He wants to help. He told me so himself. 1926 01:37:02,192 --> 01:37:04,161 You wanna start us off, honey? 1927 01:37:07,029 --> 01:37:09,132 - What should I write, Jim? - Start with everything. 1928 01:37:09,166 --> 01:37:10,968 Start with what you need for clothes. 1929 01:37:11,001 --> 01:37:12,469 What's your salary, Jim? 1930 01:37:12,501 --> 01:37:15,205 One second. I'll try calling Jerry again. 1931 01:37:15,237 --> 01:37:18,642 He hasn't returned any of my calls. 1932 01:37:18,675 --> 01:37:22,145 * The other side whose storm 1933 01:37:22,179 --> 01:37:26,550 * Is going to end 1934 01:37:26,582 --> 01:37:30,187 * Well, your midnight's almost over * 1935 01:37:30,220 --> 01:37:32,556 "Jim's salary for a lifetime 1936 01:37:32,589 --> 01:37:34,425 "at 300,000 per year. 1937 01:37:34,457 --> 01:37:38,394 "Tammy's salary for a lifetime at 100,000 a year. 1938 01:37:38,428 --> 01:37:40,596 "Secretary for one year. Phone bill. 1939 01:37:40,630 --> 01:37:44,335 "House on the lake. Security. Personal maid." 1940 01:37:47,069 --> 01:37:49,706 I don't see the repentance there. 1941 01:37:51,375 --> 01:37:55,245 I see the greed. I see the self-centeredness. 1942 01:37:55,278 --> 01:37:59,616 I see the avarice that brought them down. 1943 01:37:59,648 --> 01:38:02,585 Jim, I have sat across the table 1944 01:38:02,618 --> 01:38:07,190 from men who have told me about your homosexual advances. 1945 01:38:07,224 --> 01:38:12,129 And since then, I have learned of fiscal irregularities. 1946 01:38:12,162 --> 01:38:14,098 It would be a disservice to God, Jim... 1947 01:38:14,130 --> 01:38:15,432 It's all over. 1948 01:38:15,465 --> 01:38:18,736 ...and to the church at large if I allowed you to come back. 1949 01:38:18,769 --> 01:38:21,105 I've been had. 1950 01:38:21,138 --> 01:38:25,776 How could you have trusted people like that? 1951 01:38:25,809 --> 01:38:31,015 You understand that I can't allow you to stay here. 1952 01:38:31,047 --> 01:38:35,251 Your home, and everything in it, belongs to the ministry. 1953 01:38:36,385 --> 01:38:39,122 Your midnight's almost over. 1954 01:38:39,156 --> 01:38:43,727 And thank God, the sun is going to shine again. 1955 01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:46,130 Praise, praise in the name of the Lord. 1956 01:38:46,162 --> 01:38:48,631 The charges being made against you right now 1957 01:38:48,665 --> 01:38:52,702 are, in effect, that you stole PTL blind. 1958 01:38:52,736 --> 01:38:55,671 While PTL was suffering through months after months 1959 01:38:55,705 --> 01:38:58,341 of $2 million negative balances, 1960 01:38:58,375 --> 01:39:00,210 you were paying yourself bonuses, 1961 01:39:00,242 --> 01:39:01,777 you were paying Tammy Faye bonuses. No. 1962 01:39:01,810 --> 01:39:05,081 I don't know if you ever have a positive balance in a ministry, Jim. 1963 01:39:05,114 --> 01:39:07,151 I've never known anyone to have a positive one. 1964 01:39:07,184 --> 01:39:10,087 We're... We're always playing catch-up. 1965 01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:11,388 Jim Bakker went on trial 1966 01:39:11,420 --> 01:39:13,122 on charges of fraud today. 1967 01:39:13,156 --> 01:39:14,457 The prosecution called Bakker, 1968 01:39:14,491 --> 01:39:15,526 "A man corrupted by love of money and luxury." 1969 01:39:15,559 --> 01:39:16,693 The founder of the now-bankrupt PTL ministry 1970 01:39:16,725 --> 01:39:17,826 swindled followers 1971 01:39:17,861 --> 01:39:20,363 out of millions of dollars to support a lavish lifestyle. 1972 01:39:20,397 --> 01:39:21,564 One couple showed up 1973 01:39:21,598 --> 01:39:22,799 in Jim and Tammy Faye masks. 1974 01:39:22,832 --> 01:39:24,167 ...couple million dollars in PTL cash 1975 01:39:24,201 --> 01:39:25,536 for their personal use. 1976 01:39:25,568 --> 01:39:28,071 How much money did you earn last year? 1977 01:39:28,104 --> 01:39:32,341 Salary, bonuses, and dividends, and royalties... 1978 01:39:32,375 --> 01:39:33,577 No idea? You're starting... 1979 01:39:33,609 --> 01:39:35,278 I don't have the exact figure. 1980 01:39:35,312 --> 01:39:37,281 - Not exactly. - I honestly, honest... 1981 01:39:37,313 --> 01:39:39,816 I do not know how much I make. I never thought about it. 1982 01:39:39,849 --> 01:39:42,553 - She don't. - I really don't. 1983 01:39:42,586 --> 01:39:44,254 To raise desperately needed cash, 1984 01:39:44,287 --> 01:39:46,857 PTL is auctioning off opulent personal items 1985 01:39:46,889 --> 01:39:49,325 deposed Evangelists Jim and Tammy Bakker 1986 01:39:49,358 --> 01:39:50,560 bought with church donations. 1987 01:39:50,594 --> 01:39:52,563 They also brought new charges of moral failure. 1988 01:39:52,595 --> 01:39:54,163 ...having sex with Reverend Jim Bakker. 1989 01:39:54,197 --> 01:39:55,297 Jessica Hahn, 1990 01:39:55,331 --> 01:39:58,801 Bakker personally directed the payment of PTL hush money. 1991 01:39:58,835 --> 01:40:00,636 We grieve for the impact all of this has had 1992 01:40:00,670 --> 01:40:02,806 upon the entire Christian community. 1993 01:40:02,839 --> 01:40:06,609 As for the homosexual advances going back to 1956, 1994 01:40:06,643 --> 01:40:08,879 - you're saying that's a lie. - Yes. Yes. 1995 01:40:08,912 --> 01:40:11,849 Yes, that's... that's... that's true. 1996 01:40:11,881 --> 01:40:13,216 What are you saying? 1997 01:40:13,250 --> 01:40:14,283 That's... That's a lie. 1998 01:40:14,317 --> 01:40:16,819 Yes. Yes. And, you know, 1999 01:40:16,853 --> 01:40:18,788 people need to know 2000 01:40:18,822 --> 01:40:23,861 that God loves homosexuals. 2001 01:40:23,894 --> 01:40:25,629 Preachers have to be awfully pious. 2002 01:40:25,662 --> 01:40:28,332 And when they fall from grace, they fall harder. 2003 01:40:28,364 --> 01:40:29,332 People laugh. 2004 01:40:29,366 --> 01:40:31,468 Tammy, we have a bit of goop on our face. 2005 01:40:31,501 --> 01:40:32,836 You've taken her makeup off. 2006 01:40:34,737 --> 01:40:36,706 I saw his wife. I heard the accusations, 2007 01:40:36,739 --> 01:40:38,675 wife-swapping, homosexuality. 2008 01:40:38,707 --> 01:40:40,643 Have you seen this woman? 2009 01:40:40,676 --> 01:40:43,313 I'd swap her for a can of soup. 2010 01:40:43,345 --> 01:40:45,482 National news, special report. 2011 01:40:45,514 --> 01:40:48,919 Jim Bakker was found guilty on all 24 counts of wire and... 2012 01:40:48,952 --> 01:40:51,321 - Guilty. - Guilty. 2013 01:40:51,354 --> 01:40:54,791 He now faces up to a 120 years in prison 2014 01:40:54,823 --> 01:40:57,161 and $5 million in fines. 2015 01:40:57,193 --> 01:40:58,495 Ted, can I say something? 2016 01:40:58,528 --> 01:40:59,629 Sure. 2017 01:40:59,662 --> 01:41:03,767 I just wanna say, remember, God loves you. 2018 01:41:03,800 --> 01:41:07,337 I wanna say that, too. God loves you. 2019 01:41:07,370 --> 01:41:10,239 - He really does. Bye-bye. - He really, really does. 2020 01:41:10,273 --> 01:41:12,442 All right. Thank you both very much for being with us. 2021 01:41:12,474 --> 01:41:13,509 We're clear. 2022 01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:39,702 It's all right, honey. Don't cry. 2023 01:41:44,541 --> 01:41:45,976 No. 2024 01:41:46,009 --> 01:41:48,812 I didn't do anything. Please. 2025 01:41:51,447 --> 01:41:52,715 I have a song for you. 2026 01:41:53,582 --> 01:41:55,484 * On Christ 2027 01:41:55,518 --> 01:42:00,224 * The solid rock I stand 2028 01:42:00,256 --> 01:42:06,796 * All other ground is sinking sand 2029 01:42:06,830 --> 01:42:13,737 * All other ground is sinking sand * 2030 01:42:22,679 --> 01:42:24,815 God... 2031 01:42:24,848 --> 01:42:28,385 I followed you ever since I was a little girl. 2032 01:42:30,787 --> 01:42:32,623 I loved you. 2033 01:42:34,491 --> 01:42:36,359 I served you. 2034 01:42:38,961 --> 01:42:40,897 And I worked for you. 2035 01:42:44,033 --> 01:42:45,469 God... 2036 01:42:48,438 --> 01:42:50,373 where have you gone? 2037 01:42:51,875 --> 01:42:54,745 It's not over till it's over. 2038 01:43:31,081 --> 01:43:33,016 Hey. Sorry I'm late. 2039 01:43:33,049 --> 01:43:34,850 Oh. 2040 01:43:34,884 --> 01:43:35,984 - Hi. - Hi. 2041 01:43:36,019 --> 01:43:38,355 - Nice to meet ya. I'm Tammy. - Nice to meet you. Stephen. 2042 01:43:38,388 --> 01:43:39,855 All right. You need a water or anything? 2043 01:43:39,889 --> 01:43:41,558 - Oh, no, I'm good. - Okay. 2044 01:43:41,590 --> 01:43:42,892 My new headshot. 2045 01:43:42,925 --> 01:43:45,595 Yeah, all right. Nice. 2046 01:43:46,362 --> 01:43:48,664 All right. So... 2047 01:43:48,697 --> 01:43:50,099 I hear you're here to pitch me something. 2048 01:43:50,132 --> 01:43:53,670 Oh. So I should... I'll... Yeah. 2049 01:43:53,702 --> 01:43:55,671 So, I have two ideas for you, Stephen. 2050 01:43:55,705 --> 01:43:58,908 And then I'd like to hear what you see me doing. 2051 01:43:58,942 --> 01:44:00,609 Okay. 2052 01:44:00,643 --> 01:44:04,081 Okay. Um, the first one is about puppets. 2053 01:44:04,113 --> 01:44:06,582 I mean, it's serious, but it's also funny. 2054 01:44:06,616 --> 01:44:09,853 It's a talk show but with puppets. 2055 01:44:09,885 --> 01:44:11,754 And it's for kids and also for adults. 2056 01:44:11,787 --> 01:44:16,058 And it's a way for people to talk about their problems, 2057 01:44:16,091 --> 01:44:17,693 but with puppets. 2058 01:44:19,595 --> 01:44:20,763 Okay. 2059 01:44:22,465 --> 01:44:24,701 Okay, I have something else for you, Stephen. 2060 01:44:24,733 --> 01:44:27,136 - Oh, okay, another one. - It's for teenagers. 2061 01:44:27,170 --> 01:44:29,973 You know, the biggest problem that they say is, 2062 01:44:30,005 --> 01:44:33,042 "How can we get people to listen to us?" 2063 01:44:33,076 --> 01:44:35,511 And I would really love to give them that chance 2064 01:44:35,545 --> 01:44:37,047 and, you know, go where they go. 2065 01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:39,882 I'd love to go to the piercing parlors with them, 2066 01:44:39,916 --> 01:44:42,753 I'd love to go to the tattoo places with them, and... 2067 01:44:42,786 --> 01:44:44,154 And you would call this show, what? 2068 01:44:44,187 --> 01:44:46,156 - "Tammy's Terrific Teens." - Oh, yeah. 2069 01:44:46,188 --> 01:44:48,591 I thought that would be, you know, a fun title. 2070 01:44:48,625 --> 01:44:50,761 I was just curious. 2071 01:44:50,794 --> 01:44:52,863 Well, what do you see me doing, Stephen? 2072 01:44:52,895 --> 01:44:55,698 I mean, you're the expert. 2073 01:44:55,732 --> 01:44:58,868 Well, have you reached out to any Christian networks or anything? 2074 01:45:01,438 --> 01:45:03,407 Well, they won't have me. 2075 01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:07,477 Okay. Well, what I've learned from doing these shows, 2076 01:45:07,510 --> 01:45:09,913 and I think you've learned as well, is, 2077 01:45:09,946 --> 01:45:10,980 you know, it is dangerous 2078 01:45:11,014 --> 01:45:13,817 to wanna be seen just for the sake of it. You know? 2079 01:45:13,849 --> 01:45:16,051 Well, I do love the camera, but... 2080 01:45:16,085 --> 01:45:17,721 Why? 2081 01:45:17,754 --> 01:45:19,055 Well, because it's a person. 2082 01:45:19,087 --> 01:45:20,823 It's someone to talk to. 2083 01:45:20,857 --> 01:45:24,127 It's... It's God's love through me. 2084 01:45:27,095 --> 01:45:28,531 So what do you think, Stephen? 2085 01:45:28,564 --> 01:45:30,134 You know, would you like to do a show? 2086 01:45:31,568 --> 01:45:33,437 I don't know, Tammy. 2087 01:45:33,470 --> 01:45:36,173 I just don't think it's a good fit for us right now. 2088 01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:37,841 Okay? 2089 01:45:39,843 --> 01:45:43,145 Well, well, I... I... 2090 01:45:43,179 --> 01:45:45,015 - I really appreciate... - Thank you for coming in. 2091 01:45:45,047 --> 01:45:46,817 - Thank you. - Thanks for coming through. 2092 01:45:46,849 --> 01:45:48,919 We'll take care of your parking validation. 2093 01:45:48,952 --> 01:45:50,187 - Thank you. - Okay. 2094 01:45:51,019 --> 01:45:52,621 You have a good one. 2095 01:45:55,892 --> 01:45:57,193 - Bye. - Bye. 2096 01:45:58,560 --> 01:45:59,763 Oops. 2097 01:46:18,848 --> 01:46:20,082 Oh, man. 2098 01:46:21,117 --> 01:46:22,953 What'd she do to her face? 2099 01:46:25,889 --> 01:46:28,892 I told you she lived here. What a freak. 2100 01:46:33,962 --> 01:46:35,931 - Oh, man. - Hi. 2101 01:46:35,965 --> 01:46:37,701 Oh, shit. She's comin' over here. 2102 01:46:37,733 --> 01:46:40,136 - You guys just hangin' out? - Yeah. 2103 01:46:41,571 --> 01:46:45,742 So, you can talk about me. That's all right. 2104 01:46:45,774 --> 01:46:47,510 But, you know, you gotta shake my hand, 2105 01:46:47,544 --> 01:46:49,546 and you gotta say hi first. 2106 01:46:51,179 --> 01:46:52,748 - Hi. - Hi, nice to meet ya. 2107 01:46:52,782 --> 01:46:54,017 I'm Tammy. What's your name? 2108 01:46:54,050 --> 01:46:55,819 - Um, Max. - Hi. 2109 01:46:55,852 --> 01:46:57,120 But, you know, we're not strangers. 2110 01:46:57,153 --> 01:47:00,023 I live right there. We're neighbors. 2111 01:47:00,055 --> 01:47:02,091 Oh! Let me show you guys what I just got. 2112 01:47:02,992 --> 01:47:06,964 Who would like a picture? 2113 01:47:10,132 --> 01:47:12,068 Jolene, I cannot believe that you have eaten 2114 01:47:12,100 --> 01:47:14,270 almost an entire jar of peanut butter. 2115 01:47:14,304 --> 01:47:15,639 Well, I'm sorry, Susanne. 2116 01:47:15,671 --> 01:47:17,607 I happen to be eating for two. 2117 01:47:17,639 --> 01:47:18,807 Don't beg. 2118 01:47:20,076 --> 01:47:21,711 Okay, you're being so good. 2119 01:47:21,743 --> 01:47:23,746 I say, have at it. 2120 01:47:23,779 --> 01:47:24,915 You know, Susanne, since you're having 2121 01:47:24,947 --> 01:47:26,649 so much trouble collecting money for your benefit, 2122 01:47:26,683 --> 01:47:28,118 I might be able to help you out. 2123 01:47:28,151 --> 01:47:30,019 You, how? 2124 01:47:30,053 --> 01:47:31,654 God bless you. You've reached Tammy. 2125 01:47:31,688 --> 01:47:33,123 Leave me a message. 2126 01:47:35,224 --> 01:47:37,627 Hello, Mrs. Bakker. This is Linda Thomas 2127 01:47:37,660 --> 01:47:39,229 from Oral Roberts School of Divinity. 2128 01:47:39,261 --> 01:47:42,565 You probably don't remember but I volunteered at PTL. 2129 01:47:42,599 --> 01:47:44,668 You were always so nice to me. 2130 01:47:44,701 --> 01:47:46,670 Anyway, I'm calling to invite you to sing 2131 01:47:46,702 --> 01:47:48,938 at this year's festival of Praise and Redemption. 2132 01:47:48,971 --> 01:47:51,340 I think you'd be a wonderful addition to our program. 2133 01:47:51,373 --> 01:47:53,676 We'll check back with you to find out if you're interested. 2134 01:47:53,710 --> 01:47:55,045 Thanks very much. 2135 01:48:26,309 --> 01:48:28,011 - Hi. - Hi. 2136 01:48:43,291 --> 01:48:44,827 So, what's new? 2137 01:48:44,861 --> 01:48:46,964 Oh. I don't know. 2138 01:48:49,165 --> 01:48:51,835 I got an invitation from Oral Roberts to sing. 2139 01:48:52,702 --> 01:48:54,137 - Wow. - Yeah. 2140 01:48:54,170 --> 01:48:56,739 That's wonderful. 2141 01:48:56,773 --> 01:48:57,974 - I'm not gonna do it though. - You should. 2142 01:48:58,006 --> 01:48:59,942 No, I haven't been in church for years. 2143 01:48:59,975 --> 01:49:01,044 Well, that's where you belong. 2144 01:49:01,077 --> 01:49:02,779 No, I don't belong with them. 2145 01:49:02,812 --> 01:49:04,346 They're gonna laugh. 2146 01:49:04,380 --> 01:49:05,415 I'm not gonna go. 2147 01:49:05,447 --> 01:49:07,750 It's my fault you feel that way. 2148 01:49:07,783 --> 01:49:09,085 I'm sorry for that. 2149 01:49:10,118 --> 01:49:11,254 All of it. 2150 01:49:13,956 --> 01:49:15,792 I pray for you, Jim. 2151 01:49:15,825 --> 01:49:18,961 And I pray that God will use you again. 2152 01:49:20,362 --> 01:49:21,664 Yes. 2153 01:49:26,035 --> 01:49:28,337 I appreciate you signing the divorce papers, Jim. 2154 01:49:28,371 --> 01:49:29,940 I didn't want to, Tam. 2155 01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:31,707 I know. 2156 01:49:33,475 --> 01:49:36,179 But, you know, we've just been through too much together 2157 01:49:36,211 --> 01:49:39,181 and, you know, there's been too many hurts 2158 01:49:39,215 --> 01:49:41,685 that have happened over the years. 2159 01:49:42,350 --> 01:49:43,920 And that poor girl, Jim. 2160 01:49:43,952 --> 01:49:46,089 I know, I know. I know. 2161 01:49:46,555 --> 01:49:49,358 I'm ashamed of that. 2162 01:49:49,392 --> 01:49:53,028 I've been getting some real me and God time in here 2163 01:49:53,062 --> 01:49:54,730 and everything looks very, very different 2164 01:49:54,764 --> 01:49:56,700 when you're looking at it from the bottom up. 2165 01:49:56,733 --> 01:49:58,034 - Well, yeah. - Yeah. 2166 01:49:58,067 --> 01:49:59,301 And I've just been thinking, 2167 01:50:00,269 --> 01:50:02,939 were we preaching 2168 01:50:02,971 --> 01:50:06,108 that God doesn't love you if you're poor? 2169 01:50:07,343 --> 01:50:09,211 Well, you know that I grew up poor. 2170 01:50:11,113 --> 01:50:13,817 It's not what you have in stuff, 2171 01:50:13,849 --> 01:50:16,085 it's the people that count. 2172 01:50:16,919 --> 01:50:18,787 - Amen. - Amen. 2173 01:50:34,136 --> 01:50:35,404 Tammy. 2174 01:50:37,273 --> 01:50:38,341 Mom? 2175 01:50:43,278 --> 01:50:46,049 "We therefore were buried with him 2176 01:50:46,081 --> 01:50:47,483 "through baptism into death. 2177 01:50:48,483 --> 01:50:49,451 "In order that, 2178 01:50:49,484 --> 01:50:51,955 "just as Christ was raised from the dead 2179 01:50:51,987 --> 01:50:54,423 "through the glory of the Father, 2180 01:50:54,456 --> 01:50:58,127 "we too may walk in newness of life." 2181 01:51:00,129 --> 01:51:02,297 Such a good service. 2182 01:51:02,331 --> 01:51:03,767 Hello, Tom. Thanks for comin'. 2183 01:51:06,068 --> 01:51:08,271 There you are. 2184 01:51:08,304 --> 01:51:10,440 Aren't you gonna come in, have somethin' to eat? 2185 01:51:10,473 --> 01:51:13,542 I don't belong in there with them. 2186 01:51:13,576 --> 01:51:14,978 Yeah. 2187 01:51:16,011 --> 01:51:18,214 One good thing about your mum kicking the bucket is 2188 01:51:18,246 --> 01:51:20,249 I never have to go to church again. 2189 01:51:22,350 --> 01:51:24,321 No, I shouldn't laugh at that. 2190 01:51:26,555 --> 01:51:29,091 - Oh, I did something terrible. - Oh? 2191 01:51:30,292 --> 01:51:32,495 Oh. 2192 01:51:32,528 --> 01:51:35,565 You're forgiven. 2193 01:51:35,598 --> 01:51:38,868 Ooh. Wow, she really was blind, wasn't she? 2194 01:51:38,901 --> 01:51:40,370 Mm-hmm. 2195 01:51:42,037 --> 01:51:43,873 I got somethin' for ya. 2196 01:51:44,540 --> 01:51:46,542 You recognize this? 2197 01:51:49,377 --> 01:51:51,413 I thought Falwell took everything. 2198 01:51:51,447 --> 01:51:53,016 She hid this. 2199 01:51:53,049 --> 01:51:54,951 She stole it. 2200 01:51:54,983 --> 01:51:56,318 Well, she said she'd be damned 2201 01:51:56,352 --> 01:51:58,321 if she was gonna hand over this precious thing 2202 01:51:58,354 --> 01:52:00,056 her daughter worked so hard for 2203 01:52:00,089 --> 01:52:02,259 to the fat Baptist. 2204 01:52:30,252 --> 01:52:32,421 We're opening the house now, Ms. Bakker. 2205 01:52:32,455 --> 01:52:34,491 People are taking their seats. 2206 01:52:39,528 --> 01:52:41,531 Well, hello there, Tammy. 2207 01:52:43,265 --> 01:52:44,466 Hi, there. 2208 01:52:47,370 --> 01:52:48,839 I'm scared. 2209 01:52:56,245 --> 01:53:00,850 Jesus, come in to my heart, and forgive me my sins. 2210 01:53:02,151 --> 01:53:03,353 I know I cared about things 2211 01:53:03,385 --> 01:53:04,520 that I shouldn't have. 2212 01:53:06,354 --> 01:53:08,290 And I know I got lost... 2213 01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:12,528 and I forgot 2214 01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:14,264 who you are to me... 2215 01:53:17,233 --> 01:53:18,935 but that's done now. 2216 01:53:20,635 --> 01:53:22,938 Yeah, I won't go forward 2217 01:53:22,971 --> 01:53:26,209 looking in the rearview mirror of my life. 2218 01:53:27,542 --> 01:53:29,446 On stage in 10 minutes. 2219 01:53:47,529 --> 01:53:48,998 Thank you. 2220 01:53:50,265 --> 01:53:51,667 Here, this is for the piano player. 2221 01:53:51,701 --> 01:53:52,903 Okay. 2222 01:54:09,318 --> 01:54:10,486 Ladies and gentlemen... 2223 01:54:11,554 --> 01:54:15,558 ...please welcome tonight's special guest, 2224 01:54:15,590 --> 01:54:17,292 Tammy Faye. 2225 01:54:25,568 --> 01:54:27,370 Aw. 2226 01:54:27,403 --> 01:54:30,440 Thank you. Thank you so much. 2227 01:54:33,541 --> 01:54:37,012 I am genuinely, I am so happy 2228 01:54:37,045 --> 01:54:39,381 to be back where I once belonged. 2229 01:54:44,053 --> 01:54:48,291 This morning when I was in need of some comfort, 2230 01:54:48,323 --> 01:54:51,160 I turned to my favorite scripture, 2231 01:54:51,193 --> 01:54:52,696 Psalms 91. 2232 01:54:55,797 --> 01:54:58,501 "He that dwelleth in the secret place 2233 01:54:58,533 --> 01:55:00,135 "of the most high 2234 01:55:02,138 --> 01:55:06,408 "shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty." 2235 01:55:06,442 --> 01:55:08,377 And this is my favorite part. 2236 01:55:16,218 --> 01:55:19,122 "He shall cover thee with His feathers 2237 01:55:20,723 --> 01:55:22,524 "and under His wings 2238 01:55:23,658 --> 01:55:26,261 "shalt thou trust." 2239 01:55:29,697 --> 01:55:32,735 Well, I haven't had a concert in almost a decade 2240 01:55:34,403 --> 01:55:36,506 and I am a little nervous. 2241 01:55:38,340 --> 01:55:40,243 But I'll do my best 2242 01:55:40,276 --> 01:55:43,779 to deliver Him to you folks tonight. Okay? 2243 01:55:51,854 --> 01:55:53,556 * Mine eyes 2244 01:55:54,188 --> 01:55:56,692 * Have seen the glory 2245 01:55:58,160 --> 01:56:03,099 * Of the coming of the Lord 2246 01:56:03,131 --> 01:56:07,536 * He is trampling out the vintage 2247 01:56:07,569 --> 01:56:13,108 * Where the grapes of wrath are stored 2248 01:56:13,809 --> 01:56:15,745 * He hath loosed 2249 01:56:16,812 --> 01:56:19,082 * The fateful lightning 2250 01:56:20,582 --> 01:56:25,120 * Of His terrible, swift sword 2251 01:56:27,555 --> 01:56:34,531 * His truth is marching on 2252 01:56:36,631 --> 01:56:43,738 * Glory, glory, hallelujah 2253 01:56:43,772 --> 01:56:50,880 * Glory, glory, hallelujah 2254 01:56:50,912 --> 01:56:57,519 * Glory, glory, hallelujah 2255 01:56:57,553 --> 01:57:04,626 * His truth is marching on 2256 01:57:04,660 --> 01:57:08,464 * I have read His fiery gospel 2257 01:57:08,496 --> 01:57:11,767 * Writ in burnished rows of steel 2258 01:57:11,800 --> 01:57:15,638 * "As ye deal with my condemners 2259 01:57:15,670 --> 01:57:18,607 * "So with you my grace shall deal" 2260 01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:22,511 * Let the Hero, born of woman 2261 01:57:22,545 --> 01:57:25,815 * Crush the serpent with his heel 2262 01:57:25,848 --> 01:57:33,156 * Since God is marching on 2263 01:57:33,188 --> 01:57:35,724 Come on, everybody! Feel his miracle! 2264 01:57:37,292 --> 01:57:44,232 * Glory, glory, hallelujah 2265 01:57:44,265 --> 01:57:50,272 * Glory, glory, hallelujah 2266 01:57:51,506 --> 01:57:57,679 * Glory, glory, hallelujah 2267 01:57:57,712 --> 01:58:04,853 * His truth is marching on 2268 01:58:04,886 --> 01:58:07,389 Oh, how thankful I am 2269 01:58:07,422 --> 01:58:10,526 for the amazing grace of God. 2270 01:58:10,559 --> 01:58:13,262 Because without that beautiful grace, 2271 01:58:13,295 --> 01:58:15,965 I wouldn't even be here today. 2272 01:58:15,997 --> 01:58:18,300 That grace that reached down and said, 2273 01:58:18,334 --> 01:58:21,970 "Tammy Faye, I love you. 2274 01:58:22,004 --> 01:58:25,474 "And I love you just the way you are." 2275 01:58:25,506 --> 01:58:29,344 You know God's grace is sufficient enough for you today, too. 2276 01:58:29,377 --> 01:58:33,882 And He loves you just the way you are! 2277 01:58:33,916 --> 01:58:40,756 * Glory, glory, hallelujah 2278 01:58:40,788 --> 01:58:46,795 * Glory, glory, hallelujah 2279 01:58:48,029 --> 01:58:54,536 * Glory, glory, hallelujah 2280 01:58:54,569 --> 01:59:00,809 * His truth is marching on 2281 01:59:01,577 --> 01:59:05,315 * Our God is 2282 01:59:06,282 --> 01:59:09,919 * Marching 2283 01:59:09,952 --> 01:59:15,425 * On * 2284 01:59:18,394 --> 01:59:22,431 Thank you, Lord, for the United States of America. 2285 01:59:22,464 --> 01:59:23,765 We thank you, Lord, 2286 01:59:23,799 --> 01:59:27,303 that we live in this wonderful country. 2287 01:59:27,336 --> 01:59:31,574 God bless America. Hallelujah. 2288 01:59:32,041 --> 01:59:33,710 Oh, yeah. 2289 02:00:26,795 --> 02:00:30,366 It's not over till it's over. 166020

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