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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,194 --> 00:00:09,844 -In September 1978, 2 00:00:09,914 --> 00:00:14,154 one of the contestants on a U.S. TV show called "The Dating Game" 3 00:00:14,221 --> 00:00:17,241 was hiding a deadly secret. 4 00:00:16,681 --> 00:00:20,591 Nobody knew it, but the bachelor in seat number one 5 00:00:20,661 --> 00:00:24,171 was responsible for the death of four women. 6 00:00:24,241 --> 00:00:26,181 -Please welcome Rodney Alcala. 7 00:00:26,254 --> 00:00:27,524 Rod, welcome. 8 00:00:27,594 --> 00:00:29,534 -When I found out he was a serial killer, 9 00:00:29,241 --> 00:00:30,741 it was like, "Bing." 10 00:00:30,814 --> 00:00:34,964 It just all came together like a slap in the face. 11 00:00:35,034 --> 00:00:38,224 -By the time 35-year-old Rodney Alcala 12 00:00:38,294 --> 00:00:41,274 was finally arrested 10 months later, 13 00:00:41,341 --> 00:00:45,171 he had killed another two women and a 12-year-old girl. 14 00:00:47,821 --> 00:00:50,471 Pictures of missing persons found hidden away 15 00:00:50,547 --> 00:00:54,387 pointed towards there being even more victims. 16 00:00:54,467 --> 00:00:56,907 -I think the day he rots away and finally dies 17 00:00:56,721 --> 00:00:58,511 will be a good day for the whole world. 18 00:00:58,587 --> 00:01:00,687 -After two convictions were quashed, 19 00:01:00,767 --> 00:01:02,747 Alcala was given the death sentence 20 00:01:02,827 --> 00:01:06,807 for a third time in 2010. 21 00:01:06,881 --> 00:01:09,991 -I really hope that he's suffering and that, one day, 22 00:01:10,067 --> 00:01:13,147 I get that phone call that he is gone, 23 00:01:13,221 --> 00:01:16,761 and nobody will ever have to hear his name again. 24 00:01:16,834 --> 00:01:19,994 -Rodney Alcala will go down in history 25 00:01:20,061 --> 00:01:22,931 as one of the world's most evil killers. 26 00:01:43,481 --> 00:01:47,671 It was a murder that stunned a community. 27 00:01:47,747 --> 00:01:50,667 When the remains of 12-year-old Robin Samsoe 28 00:01:50,747 --> 00:01:54,757 were found on July the 2nd, 1979, 29 00:01:54,834 --> 00:01:58,764 the schoolgirl had already been missing for 12 days. 30 00:01:58,834 --> 00:02:01,214 The police were certain that the killer 31 00:02:01,287 --> 00:02:05,847 was a 35-year-old photographer named Rodney Alcala. 32 00:02:05,927 --> 00:02:09,667 After his arrest, hundreds of pictures of young women 33 00:02:09,747 --> 00:02:13,227 were found in his possession, but who were they? 34 00:02:13,307 --> 00:02:15,667 It would take 34 years 35 00:02:15,747 --> 00:02:19,147 before Alcala was finally found to be responsible 36 00:02:19,221 --> 00:02:23,301 for the death of at least seven women across two states. 37 00:02:23,374 --> 00:02:26,424 Orange County Deputy D.A. Matt Murphy 38 00:02:26,494 --> 00:02:29,314 was the third prosecutor to take Alcala 39 00:02:29,381 --> 00:02:32,451 to trial for the murder of Robin Samsoe 40 00:02:32,527 --> 00:02:35,327 after the first two death-penalty sentences 41 00:02:35,408 --> 00:02:37,158 were overturned. 42 00:02:37,234 --> 00:02:39,604 -The tough part about that and what nobody thinks about 43 00:02:39,674 --> 00:02:42,074 is there's a victim's family involved in this. 44 00:02:42,141 --> 00:02:45,011 And Robin Samsoe had a mother who loved her, 45 00:02:44,721 --> 00:02:46,221 and she had brothers who loved her. 46 00:02:46,294 --> 00:02:47,884 She had friends who loved her. 47 00:02:47,954 --> 00:02:50,324 And every time the case gets reversed, 48 00:02:50,394 --> 00:02:51,884 you have to drag the family through this, 49 00:02:51,954 --> 00:02:54,114 and they have to go through the process again. 50 00:02:54,188 --> 00:02:55,768 I don't think it's a stretch to say 51 00:02:55,841 --> 00:02:57,231 this ruined the life 52 00:02:57,307 --> 00:03:01,307 of this girl's poor mother. 53 00:03:01,381 --> 00:03:06,031 -At Alcala's third trial in January 2010, 54 00:03:06,108 --> 00:03:09,378 the convicted killer decided to defend himself. 55 00:03:09,381 --> 00:03:11,751 District Attorney Matt spent weeks 56 00:03:11,821 --> 00:03:13,801 sparring with the 67-year-old 57 00:03:13,874 --> 00:03:18,154 and had to treat him with respect in the courtroom. 58 00:03:18,221 --> 00:03:19,711 -After my closing argument, that's when he realized -- 59 00:03:19,787 --> 00:03:22,077 After I pointed at him and called him the devil, 60 00:03:21,721 --> 00:03:24,151 he realized I wasn't his buddy. 61 00:03:24,221 --> 00:03:26,021 I think the day he rots away and finally dies 62 00:03:26,094 --> 00:03:27,684 will be a good day for the whole world. 63 00:03:27,754 --> 00:03:32,274 -This killer's story began over 70 years ago. 64 00:03:32,347 --> 00:03:35,737 Rodney Alcala was born in San Antonio, Texas, 65 00:03:35,814 --> 00:03:40,304 on the 23rd of August, 1943. 66 00:03:39,841 --> 00:03:43,751 -He was, on the surface, a perfectly normal boy -- 67 00:03:43,521 --> 00:03:45,451 didn't kill small animals 68 00:03:45,527 --> 00:03:48,227 or do any of those other horrible things 69 00:03:48,001 --> 00:03:51,111 that serial killers tend to on to do. 70 00:03:51,181 --> 00:03:52,991 But in 1951, when he was 8, 71 00:03:53,067 --> 00:03:55,977 his grandmother, who was ill, 72 00:03:56,054 --> 00:03:59,384 decided that she wanted to go back to die in Mexico. 73 00:03:59,454 --> 00:04:03,144 And so the whole family left Texas 74 00:04:03,214 --> 00:04:05,454 and went to Mexico. 75 00:04:05,527 --> 00:04:08,397 -But while living south of the U.S. border, 76 00:04:08,474 --> 00:04:11,134 Alcala's father left the family home 77 00:04:11,201 --> 00:04:13,821 to start a new life. 78 00:04:13,894 --> 00:04:15,594 -The father abandons the family at that point in time 79 00:04:15,667 --> 00:04:18,377 and then goes back to living in the U.S., 80 00:04:18,454 --> 00:04:21,384 and I think that's quite a significant thing. 81 00:04:21,454 --> 00:04:23,824 I think that Alcala's relationship with his father 82 00:04:23,561 --> 00:04:25,551 was quite an important one to him. 83 00:04:25,621 --> 00:04:27,111 And I think that's something 84 00:04:27,187 --> 00:04:29,307 that stayed with Alcala throughout his life, 85 00:04:29,381 --> 00:04:32,851 and I think it does feed into his offending behavior. 86 00:04:32,921 --> 00:04:35,161 -Age 12, Alcala's mother 87 00:04:35,234 --> 00:04:38,814 moved him and his three siblings to Los Angeles 88 00:04:38,881 --> 00:04:42,041 to start a new life back in the U.S. 89 00:04:42,114 --> 00:04:43,764 -He's popular. He's on the yearbook committee. 90 00:04:43,834 --> 00:04:44,964 He plays the piano. 91 00:04:45,034 --> 00:04:47,314 He runs for the school. 92 00:04:46,921 --> 00:04:48,631 He has girlfriends. 93 00:04:48,707 --> 00:04:51,887 He's, on the surface, an All-American, 94 00:04:51,968 --> 00:04:53,828 or All-Mexican-American boy. 95 00:04:53,901 --> 00:04:56,291 -After graduating from high school, 96 00:04:56,201 --> 00:04:58,931 Alcala joined the Army. 97 00:04:59,007 --> 00:05:01,047 But his time was cut short 98 00:05:00,761 --> 00:05:05,311 after a death in the family had a devastating effect on him. 99 00:05:05,387 --> 00:05:08,947 -Whilst he's in the Army, he has a nervous breakdown, 100 00:05:09,021 --> 00:05:12,301 and this is after his father has died. 101 00:05:12,374 --> 00:05:15,664 And he's given a medical discharge from the Army 102 00:05:15,734 --> 00:05:18,254 because he has this nervous breakdown, 103 00:05:18,327 --> 00:05:21,057 and then he kind of goes off the radar for a while. 104 00:05:21,134 --> 00:05:22,844 So I think this is the period 105 00:05:22,681 --> 00:05:25,671 in which he starts, perhaps, fantasizing. 106 00:05:25,747 --> 00:05:28,977 His offending starts to take shape in his mind, 107 00:05:29,054 --> 00:05:29,914 if not in reality. 108 00:05:29,987 --> 00:05:33,077 -And in September 1968, 109 00:05:33,154 --> 00:05:36,034 Alcala committed a horrific crime. 110 00:05:36,101 --> 00:05:38,171 He lured an 8-year-old girl 111 00:05:38,241 --> 00:05:41,701 into his Hollywood home. 112 00:05:41,774 --> 00:05:44,234 -This is the worst nightmare for any parent. 113 00:05:44,001 --> 00:05:46,601 Rodney Alcala and people like him are the reason 114 00:05:46,674 --> 00:05:49,754 why you can't send your kids walking to school alone. 115 00:05:49,821 --> 00:05:51,731 He kidnaps her. 116 00:05:51,807 --> 00:05:53,387 He rapes her. 117 00:05:53,467 --> 00:05:56,447 A good Samaritan sees her get into his car, 118 00:05:56,521 --> 00:05:57,231 and it doesn't look right. 119 00:05:57,301 --> 00:05:59,701 And he follows the car to the house, 120 00:05:59,774 --> 00:06:02,104 and it doesn't look right. Now, this is 1968, 121 00:06:02,174 --> 00:06:04,234 so it's long before cellphones. 122 00:06:04,307 --> 00:06:07,667 He finds a pay phone, calls it in. 123 00:06:07,747 --> 00:06:09,317 The police get there, knock on the door. 124 00:06:09,394 --> 00:06:11,854 Rodney shows up naked 125 00:06:11,927 --> 00:06:14,087 and says, "Hey. I'll be right with you." 126 00:06:14,161 --> 00:06:16,831 -The 25-year-old Alcala 127 00:06:16,908 --> 00:06:20,168 wasn't planning on getting caught red-handed. 128 00:06:20,247 --> 00:06:22,547 -He runs out the back naked, okay, 129 00:06:22,627 --> 00:06:26,707 and the police officer, who's by himself, looks down, 130 00:06:26,787 --> 00:06:28,117 and it's one of those situations 131 00:06:28,194 --> 00:06:31,414 where it's save this bleeding little girl on the floor 132 00:06:31,487 --> 00:06:33,447 who's unconscious and very close to death -- 133 00:06:33,527 --> 00:06:36,467 She was in a coma for 33 days after this happened -- 134 00:06:36,541 --> 00:06:38,851 So it's save the little girl or catch the bad guy 135 00:06:38,928 --> 00:06:41,058 running out of the back, and he did the right thing. 136 00:06:41,134 --> 00:06:42,924 He saved the little girl. 137 00:06:42,994 --> 00:06:45,524 But that meant Alcala got away. 138 00:06:45,594 --> 00:06:50,354 -It was a horrifically depraved and violent attack on a child 139 00:06:50,421 --> 00:06:53,081 that seemingly came out of nowhere. 140 00:06:53,154 --> 00:06:55,444 -Where was the motive for that? 141 00:06:55,514 --> 00:06:59,154 There was no sexual abuse that we know of in his childhood. 142 00:06:59,227 --> 00:07:02,337 There was no antipathy to women. 143 00:07:02,414 --> 00:07:07,764 It was an unexpected bolt from the blue. 144 00:07:07,834 --> 00:07:12,244 -Alcala decided to run away from his crimes -- 145 00:07:12,314 --> 00:07:16,144 3,000 miles across the U.S. 146 00:07:16,214 --> 00:07:19,094 -He does not hang around. 147 00:07:19,168 --> 00:07:22,418 He decides to leave Los Angeles 148 00:07:22,494 --> 00:07:24,524 and turns up in New York, 149 00:07:24,594 --> 00:07:27,874 where he enlists in the New York Film School 150 00:07:27,941 --> 00:07:31,111 under the name of John Berger. 151 00:07:31,187 --> 00:07:34,637 -This is quite a cunning way of both avoiding detection 152 00:07:34,481 --> 00:07:37,991 and of starting to build up these new personas, 153 00:07:38,068 --> 00:07:39,148 these knew characters, 154 00:07:39,227 --> 00:07:42,587 to present to the people that he comes into contact with. 155 00:07:42,667 --> 00:07:45,047 So he's somebody who can put on and shed identities 156 00:07:45,121 --> 00:07:46,221 just like a snake, 157 00:07:46,294 --> 00:07:48,094 and that's how I describe Alcala. 158 00:07:48,167 --> 00:07:51,847 He's constantly shedding his skin and reinventing himself. 159 00:07:51,927 --> 00:07:55,477 -Under the name John Berger, Rodney Alcala 160 00:07:55,554 --> 00:07:58,824 had begun teaching at a summer camp in New Hampshire. 161 00:07:58,894 --> 00:08:01,734 But by July 1971, 162 00:08:01,801 --> 00:08:03,691 his time was running out. 163 00:08:03,767 --> 00:08:06,637 Three years after the attack on the 8-year-old girl 164 00:08:06,714 --> 00:08:08,044 in his own home, 165 00:08:08,114 --> 00:08:11,044 Alcala was still the prime suspect, 166 00:08:11,114 --> 00:08:16,224 and he was added to the FBI's nationwide 10 most-wanted list. 167 00:08:16,294 --> 00:08:19,834 He was soon spotted by two of his students. 168 00:08:19,907 --> 00:08:21,847 -So two of these girls go to the post office 169 00:08:21,927 --> 00:08:23,477 to mail a letter, 170 00:08:23,554 --> 00:08:25,964 and they see Rodney Alcala's picture 171 00:08:26,034 --> 00:08:29,254 under the name of, you know, Rodney Alcala. 172 00:08:29,321 --> 00:08:30,511 They're like, "Hey. That's Mr. Berger. 173 00:08:30,581 --> 00:08:33,171 He works at the camp." So that's how he got caught. 174 00:08:33,248 --> 00:08:35,038 They extradite him back to California, 175 00:08:35,114 --> 00:08:38,114 and they try him for the kidnapping, 176 00:08:38,187 --> 00:08:41,477 and he received a life sentence. 177 00:08:41,554 --> 00:08:45,524 -But unbelievably, in August 1975, 178 00:08:45,594 --> 00:08:48,134 after serving less than three years, 179 00:08:48,201 --> 00:08:49,831 Alcala was freed 180 00:08:49,907 --> 00:08:52,897 and soon found work as a photographer. 181 00:08:52,974 --> 00:08:56,434 -I have no idea what the parole board was thinking. 182 00:08:56,507 --> 00:08:59,427 They're looking at this guy. He kidnapped, 183 00:08:59,507 --> 00:09:02,027 raped, and almost murdered an 8-year-old little girl 184 00:09:02,107 --> 00:09:03,627 who was a stranger. 185 00:09:03,701 --> 00:09:04,641 Wasn't even somebody that lived in his house. 186 00:09:04,714 --> 00:09:06,754 This was a girl walking down the street. 187 00:09:06,521 --> 00:09:09,901 That is as predatory, pathological, and psychotic 188 00:09:09,974 --> 00:09:12,464 as you can possibly get. 189 00:09:12,534 --> 00:09:14,034 And they released him after 34 months. 190 00:09:14,107 --> 00:09:15,877 He had a life sentence. 191 00:09:15,954 --> 00:09:18,704 They released him after 34 months. 192 00:09:18,774 --> 00:09:21,554 -But his freedom didn't last long. 193 00:09:21,627 --> 00:09:25,617 Just two months later, Alcala was arrested once more, 194 00:09:25,694 --> 00:09:29,264 this time for plying a minor with drugs. 195 00:09:29,334 --> 00:09:32,234 -He leaves state custody in August. 196 00:09:32,307 --> 00:09:35,097 In October, he kidnaps a 13-year-old 197 00:09:35,174 --> 00:09:38,424 and provides her with marijuana. 198 00:09:38,494 --> 00:09:41,034 And he's convicted of breaking his parole 199 00:09:41,101 --> 00:09:42,951 and selling drugs to a minor. 200 00:09:43,021 --> 00:09:44,961 He goes back to jail. 201 00:09:45,034 --> 00:09:47,554 -Again, Alcala's stay in prison 202 00:09:47,627 --> 00:09:50,207 was surprisingly brief. 203 00:09:50,287 --> 00:09:53,147 He was declared reformed by authorities 204 00:09:53,221 --> 00:09:55,551 after 2 1/2 years. 205 00:09:55,621 --> 00:09:58,191 In the summer of 1977, 206 00:09:58,261 --> 00:10:00,691 he was allowed, by his parole officer, 207 00:10:00,761 --> 00:10:02,581 to head back to New York. 208 00:10:04,981 --> 00:10:06,861 -There's a huge lesson here on Rodney Alcala, 209 00:10:06,934 --> 00:10:09,334 because people are starting to do this again. 210 00:10:09,407 --> 00:10:12,117 In California, the pendulum is swinging 211 00:10:11,961 --> 00:10:13,891 back towards early release, 212 00:10:13,967 --> 00:10:16,857 towards therapy for these guys, all that sort of thing. 213 00:10:16,934 --> 00:10:19,194 People like Rodney Alcala, when they get out, 214 00:10:19,261 --> 00:10:21,871 they are going to kill other people. 215 00:10:21,947 --> 00:10:24,157 Sex offenders do not get better, okay? 216 00:10:24,234 --> 00:10:26,934 All the treatment in the world does not fix sex offenders. 217 00:10:27,001 --> 00:10:30,791 So if you release violent sex offenders like Rodney Alcala, 218 00:10:30,861 --> 00:10:32,841 at the very least, they're going to commit additional rapes 219 00:10:32,914 --> 00:10:34,274 or child molestations. 220 00:10:34,347 --> 00:10:37,477 -Alcala's stay in New York was brief. 221 00:10:37,554 --> 00:10:39,874 In September 1977, 222 00:10:39,947 --> 00:10:43,107 he was back in Southern California. 223 00:10:42,881 --> 00:10:46,141 Two years later, 12-year-old Robin Samsoe 224 00:10:46,214 --> 00:10:49,194 would disappear after being approached by a photographer 225 00:10:49,261 --> 00:10:50,991 on Huntington Beach. 226 00:10:53,854 --> 00:10:56,514 By the summer of 1979, 227 00:10:56,587 --> 00:10:59,987 convicted child molester Rodney Alcala 228 00:11:00,068 --> 00:11:01,628 had been in prison twice 229 00:11:01,701 --> 00:11:04,891 and was flitting between two separate lives -- 230 00:11:04,968 --> 00:11:06,668 one in California 231 00:11:06,747 --> 00:11:09,107 and one in New York. 232 00:11:09,181 --> 00:11:11,521 The 35-year-old was unemployed 233 00:11:11,594 --> 00:11:14,844 but remained a keen amateur photographer. 234 00:11:14,914 --> 00:11:18,034 On June the 20th, 1979, 235 00:11:18,107 --> 00:11:20,867 12-year-old Robin Samsoe disappeared 236 00:11:20,947 --> 00:11:23,037 after speaking to a stranger 237 00:11:23,114 --> 00:11:26,574 on Huntington Beach in Orange County, California. 238 00:11:26,647 --> 00:11:28,207 -He approached Robin 239 00:11:28,281 --> 00:11:30,251 and her friend, who was also 12 years old. 240 00:11:30,328 --> 00:11:32,368 They were sunbathing on Huntington Beach 241 00:11:32,447 --> 00:11:35,077 right before Robin's ballet lesson, 242 00:11:35,154 --> 00:11:38,024 and he said, "Hey. I'm in a photography contest. 243 00:11:38,094 --> 00:11:39,744 Will you allow me to take your picture?" 244 00:11:39,814 --> 00:11:41,804 This photographer was a suspect right away, 245 00:11:41,874 --> 00:11:44,034 because 45 minutes later, 246 00:11:44,101 --> 00:11:45,961 Robin disappeared and was never seen again. 247 00:11:46,034 --> 00:11:49,074 -Robin had last been spotted on her bicycle 248 00:11:49,147 --> 00:11:52,187 heading to her ballet class. 249 00:11:51,761 --> 00:11:53,321 The following morning, 250 00:11:53,394 --> 00:11:55,114 police officer Steve Mack 251 00:11:55,187 --> 00:11:58,787 reported for duty. 252 00:11:58,861 --> 00:12:01,311 -I'd only been with the City of Huntington Beach for a year. 253 00:12:00,881 --> 00:12:02,491 We go to briefings in the morning, 254 00:12:02,567 --> 00:12:04,947 and they give us any crimes that have occurred during the evening 255 00:12:05,021 --> 00:12:06,981 that we should be on the lookout for. 256 00:12:07,054 --> 00:12:08,704 And that morning, on the 21st, 257 00:12:08,774 --> 00:12:11,184 they told of us Robin's disappearance 258 00:12:11,254 --> 00:12:12,754 and the description of the bicycle 259 00:12:12,827 --> 00:12:15,747 that she was riding at the time of her disappearance. 260 00:12:15,827 --> 00:12:19,947 -The vanishing of Robin Samsoe rocked Orange County. 261 00:12:20,027 --> 00:12:22,107 -This was an extreme rarity in Huntington Beach. 262 00:12:21,881 --> 00:12:25,791 It was a bedroom community, quite quiet and peaceful. 263 00:12:25,861 --> 00:12:28,121 We get literally hundreds of thousands of people 264 00:12:28,194 --> 00:12:30,994 coming to our beach annually 265 00:12:31,067 --> 00:12:33,767 because of its serenity and beauty. 266 00:12:33,847 --> 00:12:35,677 They put out a press release, 267 00:12:35,521 --> 00:12:39,031 and they talked to one of Robin's friends 268 00:12:39,107 --> 00:12:41,407 that she was with the day before 269 00:12:41,481 --> 00:12:43,481 and obtained a composite of a person 270 00:12:43,554 --> 00:12:46,964 that had been taking photographs of them at the beach. 271 00:12:47,034 --> 00:12:50,424 As patrol officers, we began scouring the alleys 272 00:12:50,494 --> 00:12:53,334 and behind grocery stores and shopping centers 273 00:12:53,407 --> 00:12:55,907 looking to see if the bicycle had been discarded. 274 00:12:55,987 --> 00:12:58,387 For probably the next two weeks, 275 00:12:58,467 --> 00:13:00,467 the alleys and behind shopping centers 276 00:13:00,541 --> 00:13:02,101 were probably some of the safest places, 277 00:13:02,174 --> 00:13:04,854 because even though they'd been checked 278 00:13:04,721 --> 00:13:06,311 at 10:00 in the morning, 279 00:13:06,381 --> 00:13:09,631 somebody was probably driving by at 2:00 in the afternoon. 280 00:13:09,401 --> 00:13:13,071 Everybody wanted to find that bicycle. 281 00:13:13,141 --> 00:13:15,591 -The description of the potential kidnapper 282 00:13:15,667 --> 00:13:19,467 given to a police sketch artist by Robin's friend 283 00:13:19,041 --> 00:13:23,331 looked remarkably similar to a known child molester. 284 00:13:23,407 --> 00:13:24,987 -This was a big deal media-wise 285 00:13:25,067 --> 00:13:27,047 because we had a missing 12-year-old girl. 286 00:13:27,127 --> 00:13:29,887 And Alcala's parole officer 287 00:13:29,961 --> 00:13:32,221 saw the composite on TV, 288 00:13:32,294 --> 00:13:33,524 and he called detectives and said, 289 00:13:33,594 --> 00:13:36,104 "You guys need to check out Rodney Alcala. 290 00:13:36,174 --> 00:13:39,854 It looks like him. It sounds like him. 291 00:13:39,921 --> 00:13:41,631 You got to look at Rodney Alcala." 292 00:13:41,701 --> 00:13:46,491 And like 15 minutes after they received that phone call, 293 00:13:46,568 --> 00:13:49,388 one of the cops is home, turns on the TV 294 00:13:49,467 --> 00:13:52,797 and sees Alcala on "The Dating Game." 295 00:13:52,874 --> 00:13:54,954 -Bachelor number one is a successful photographer. 296 00:13:55,021 --> 00:13:57,091 Please welcome Rodney Alcala. 297 00:13:57,167 --> 00:13:59,237 Rod, welcome. 298 00:13:59,314 --> 00:14:01,634 -And the host introduced the bachelors, 299 00:14:01,707 --> 00:14:05,807 and bachelor number one was Rodney Alcala. 300 00:14:05,887 --> 00:14:08,347 The detective frantically tried to call the police department 301 00:14:08,421 --> 00:14:10,491 and let other detectives know that he was on television 302 00:14:10,401 --> 00:14:14,371 so that they could turn it on and see him. 303 00:14:14,447 --> 00:14:17,197 -Alcala's appearance on the program, 304 00:14:17,274 --> 00:14:19,314 where women pick eligible bachelors 305 00:14:19,387 --> 00:14:21,227 without seeing their faces, 306 00:14:21,307 --> 00:14:25,897 was recorded 10 months earlier in September 1978. 307 00:14:25,974 --> 00:14:28,034 On the show that day with Alcala 308 00:14:28,107 --> 00:14:30,707 was actor Jed Mills. 309 00:14:30,787 --> 00:14:34,467 -The vibes I got from him, while we were doing the show 310 00:14:34,541 --> 00:14:37,161 and backstage and even during the actual filming 311 00:14:37,234 --> 00:14:39,314 were not good vibes. 312 00:14:39,387 --> 00:14:41,087 There was something wrong with this guy. 313 00:14:41,167 --> 00:14:43,957 -Jed had met Alcala backstage 314 00:14:44,034 --> 00:14:46,184 before the recording. 315 00:14:46,254 --> 00:14:48,074 -Didn't talk much. We were guys, 316 00:14:48,147 --> 00:14:50,127 and he was this rather good-looking, 317 00:14:50,201 --> 00:14:51,711 creepy-looking guy, though. 318 00:14:51,781 --> 00:14:55,561 He had the weirdest football haircut. 319 00:14:55,634 --> 00:14:57,684 You know, everything was, like, perfect. 320 00:14:57,754 --> 00:14:59,514 The other guy and I were getting along very nicely, 321 00:14:59,587 --> 00:15:00,797 and we were talking about this and that. 322 00:15:00,874 --> 00:15:05,414 And every now and then, this creepy guy would say something. 323 00:15:05,487 --> 00:15:06,777 Like, he had an attitude, 324 00:15:06,854 --> 00:15:09,154 'cause he knew better than everybody else. 325 00:15:09,227 --> 00:15:10,977 -When the cameras began rolling, 326 00:15:11,054 --> 00:15:14,184 Alcala turned on the charm. 327 00:15:14,254 --> 00:15:15,814 -I'm called "The Banana," 328 00:15:15,887 --> 00:15:18,107 and I look really good. 329 00:15:20,421 --> 00:15:22,861 -Can you be a little more descriptive? 330 00:15:22,934 --> 00:15:24,694 Peel me. 331 00:15:24,767 --> 00:15:28,527 -On "The Dating Game" show, the woman questioner 332 00:15:28,601 --> 00:15:32,871 asks each of the eligible bachelors... 333 00:15:32,947 --> 00:15:35,467 "I'm going to eat you. 334 00:15:35,541 --> 00:15:37,601 What food are you?" 335 00:15:37,674 --> 00:15:39,414 So Alcala, when he gave his answer, says, 336 00:15:39,321 --> 00:15:42,031 "Well, I'm a banana. Unpeel me." 337 00:15:42,107 --> 00:15:43,527 -And I said, "Oh, my God. 338 00:15:43,601 --> 00:15:45,451 This guys is such a creep." 339 00:15:45,521 --> 00:15:48,871 -But it was enough to win him the date. 340 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:51,968 -Well, I like bananas, so I'll take one. 341 00:15:52,048 --> 00:15:53,948 -Number one, bachelor number one. All right. 342 00:15:54,027 --> 00:15:56,507 -On the outside, Alcala appeared 343 00:15:56,587 --> 00:15:59,127 to be a charming, good-looking man. 344 00:15:59,201 --> 00:16:02,791 But deep inside, he was hiding a dark history. 345 00:16:02,861 --> 00:16:04,791 What the viewing public didn't know 346 00:16:04,867 --> 00:16:09,067 was that contestant number one was a serial killer. 347 00:16:09,141 --> 00:16:13,241 By the time he appeared on the show in September 1978, 348 00:16:13,314 --> 00:16:16,644 Alcala had already killed five women. 349 00:16:16,714 --> 00:16:18,864 Over 35 years on, 350 00:16:18,801 --> 00:16:23,271 Jed Mills still feels anger towards his fellow contestant. 351 00:16:23,341 --> 00:16:26,871 -Thinking back on it, it was very scary. 352 00:16:26,941 --> 00:16:30,061 It was spooky, you know, that I was in a room with this guy. 353 00:16:30,134 --> 00:16:32,174 Had I known, I'd have killed him right there 354 00:16:32,241 --> 00:16:34,671 with my bare hands, you know -- 355 00:16:34,741 --> 00:16:37,821 that he's killing women. 356 00:16:37,894 --> 00:16:40,324 Horrible, just horrible. 357 00:16:40,394 --> 00:16:43,834 -Prior to his national TV appearance, 358 00:16:43,901 --> 00:16:48,031 Alcala had already murdered 23-year-old Cornelia Crilley 359 00:16:48,107 --> 00:16:51,667 in June 1971 in New York. 360 00:16:51,747 --> 00:16:54,507 And then in July 1977, 361 00:16:54,587 --> 00:16:56,867 he killed another young woman in the city -- 362 00:16:56,941 --> 00:16:59,901 23-year-old Ellen Hover. 363 00:16:59,974 --> 00:17:02,514 Over the following 12 months, he struck again, 364 00:17:02,587 --> 00:17:05,907 this time in Southern California. 365 00:17:05,987 --> 00:17:07,757 Among his innocent victims, 366 00:17:07,834 --> 00:17:11,114 18-year-old Jill Barcomb, 367 00:17:11,188 --> 00:17:14,988 27-year-old Georgia Wixted, 368 00:17:15,068 --> 00:17:17,798 and 32-year-old Charlotte Lamb. 369 00:17:17,874 --> 00:17:20,494 All were murdered by the 34-year-old 370 00:17:20,561 --> 00:17:24,381 who was now hiding in plain sight. 371 00:17:24,454 --> 00:17:26,314 -Most serial killers or killers in general 372 00:17:26,387 --> 00:17:28,307 want to avoid detection, want to avoid publicity, 373 00:17:28,387 --> 00:17:29,557 want to avoid the spotlight. 374 00:17:29,634 --> 00:17:31,524 And this guy was actually seeking it out, 375 00:17:31,594 --> 00:17:35,394 which is, you know, an indication of his personality. 376 00:17:35,461 --> 00:17:37,571 -He really does love being in the limelight, 377 00:17:37,641 --> 00:17:39,771 so I think he would've really enjoyed a pairing 378 00:17:39,841 --> 00:17:42,351 on that dating show in the 1970s 379 00:17:42,421 --> 00:17:44,331 because he's the center of attention. 380 00:17:44,401 --> 00:17:45,811 He's the one that this woman's picked, 381 00:17:45,881 --> 00:17:48,161 and he really is on top of the world. 382 00:17:48,234 --> 00:17:51,174 -Serial killer Alcala's joy, however, 383 00:17:51,241 --> 00:17:53,091 would be short-lived. 384 00:17:53,167 --> 00:17:55,987 -He's saying all of these awfully cheesy things, 385 00:17:56,067 --> 00:17:57,277 and the audience are laughing along, 386 00:17:57,354 --> 00:17:59,324 but this is a man who's killed. 387 00:17:59,394 --> 00:18:02,254 This is a man who is going to kill again. 388 00:18:02,321 --> 00:18:03,501 And I think that the lady 389 00:18:03,574 --> 00:18:06,154 that was going to have the date with him 390 00:18:06,221 --> 00:18:07,831 was lucky to escape with her life, 391 00:18:07,907 --> 00:18:10,527 because she went and chatted to him backstage 392 00:18:10,601 --> 00:18:12,361 just before they were about to go on the date, 393 00:18:12,434 --> 00:18:13,524 and picked up on the fact 394 00:18:13,594 --> 00:18:15,974 there was something a little bit creepy about him 395 00:18:15,481 --> 00:18:17,821 and decided not to go through with that date. 396 00:18:17,894 --> 00:18:20,314 And I think that's probably the best decision she ever made. 397 00:18:20,381 --> 00:18:22,471 -She did not go out with him, you know, 398 00:18:22,548 --> 00:18:23,998 'cause he was too creepy. 399 00:18:24,074 --> 00:18:25,924 She did not keep the date. 400 00:18:25,994 --> 00:18:27,524 So even though he won, 401 00:18:27,594 --> 00:18:30,934 she refused to go on the date with him. 402 00:18:31,008 --> 00:18:32,348 -So that kind of gives you an indication 403 00:18:32,421 --> 00:18:33,951 of what kind of person you're dealing with 404 00:18:34,021 --> 00:18:37,131 where, on the surface, when she only could hear his voice 405 00:18:36,801 --> 00:18:38,951 and then ultimately see his face, it's okay. 406 00:18:39,021 --> 00:18:40,811 But then when she started interacting with him 407 00:18:40,887 --> 00:18:42,797 on a more human level, she realizes, 408 00:18:42,874 --> 00:18:44,394 "There's something wrong with this guy 409 00:18:44,201 --> 00:18:46,111 that just makes me uncomfortable." 410 00:18:46,181 --> 00:18:47,401 And as a female, she said no. 411 00:18:47,474 --> 00:18:52,134 -Now, whether Alcala took that as a rejection, 412 00:18:52,207 --> 00:18:55,087 which I think is possible, 413 00:18:55,161 --> 00:18:57,941 it was no doubt an accelerant 414 00:18:58,014 --> 00:19:00,794 to his later killings. 415 00:19:00,861 --> 00:19:02,691 If you have this narcissistic character, 416 00:19:02,768 --> 00:19:04,658 and suddenly, someone turns him down, 417 00:19:04,734 --> 00:19:07,534 I think he takes his revenge on women in general, 418 00:19:07,601 --> 00:19:09,401 women as a group. 419 00:19:09,474 --> 00:19:13,134 So anyone becomes fair prey. 420 00:19:13,201 --> 00:19:15,961 You then get a run of killings. 421 00:19:16,034 --> 00:19:20,554 -Eight months after his TV debut, Alcala killed again. 422 00:19:20,627 --> 00:19:23,747 On the 14th of June, 1979, 423 00:19:23,827 --> 00:19:26,677 21-year-old Jill Parenteau was found dead 424 00:19:26,754 --> 00:19:31,084 in her Burbank apartment in Los Angeles county. 425 00:19:31,154 --> 00:19:33,704 And just six days later, Rodney Alcala 426 00:19:33,774 --> 00:19:37,524 abducted 12-year-old Robin Samsoe in Orange County. 427 00:19:37,594 --> 00:19:41,234 Her body was found in the Angeles National Forest 428 00:19:40,801 --> 00:19:44,871 on July the 2nd, 1979. 429 00:19:44,947 --> 00:19:48,547 -Robin's body was discovered 12 days after her disappearance 430 00:19:48,621 --> 00:19:51,631 up in an area called Chantry Flats. 431 00:19:51,701 --> 00:19:56,331 It was her remains. He whole body wasn't found. 432 00:19:56,401 --> 00:19:59,711 Oddly enough, a forest ranger 433 00:19:59,781 --> 00:20:02,191 had seen Alcala, 434 00:20:02,001 --> 00:20:04,611 who we refer to as "The Monster" -- 435 00:20:04,681 --> 00:20:08,201 The family prefers that his name never be used -- 436 00:20:08,274 --> 00:20:12,584 dragging a blonde little girl into the woods. 437 00:20:12,654 --> 00:20:14,874 And then it was 12 days later, 438 00:20:14,947 --> 00:20:18,207 they were doing some fire prevention clean-out 439 00:20:18,287 --> 00:20:22,407 up in the area, and they came across some human bones. 440 00:20:22,481 --> 00:20:24,421 -It was heartbreaking news. 441 00:20:24,494 --> 00:20:27,014 The entire state of California 442 00:20:27,081 --> 00:20:30,801 wanted to see justice for the murder of Robin Samsoe. 443 00:20:30,874 --> 00:20:33,564 The police had a number-one suspect, 444 00:20:33,634 --> 00:20:36,724 but he had a history of absconding. 445 00:20:36,794 --> 00:20:39,624 They needed to find Rodney Alcala, 446 00:20:39,694 --> 00:20:42,504 and they needed to do it fast. 447 00:20:45,981 --> 00:20:48,511 In July 1979, 448 00:20:48,587 --> 00:20:51,537 detectives in Orange County, California, 449 00:20:51,614 --> 00:20:53,074 had begun to investigate 450 00:20:53,147 --> 00:20:56,007 the murder of 12-year-old Robin Samsoe 451 00:20:56,087 --> 00:20:57,787 after her remains had been discovered 452 00:20:57,867 --> 00:21:00,647 in the Angeles National Forest. 453 00:21:00,727 --> 00:21:03,257 Having been seen on national TV 454 00:21:03,334 --> 00:21:05,594 and his face matched to a sketch of a man 455 00:21:05,661 --> 00:21:08,751 seen in the area where Robin had disappeared, 456 00:21:08,821 --> 00:21:12,791 detectives honed in on Rodney Alcala. 457 00:21:12,867 --> 00:21:16,947 The convicted child molester was now their prime suspect, 458 00:21:17,027 --> 00:21:19,047 and they were certain he was culpable 459 00:21:19,127 --> 00:21:22,947 in the murder of the little girl. 460 00:21:23,027 --> 00:21:26,227 -It turns to a homicide investigation immediately, 461 00:21:26,307 --> 00:21:30,647 and the detectives ramp up their investigation and work it hard. 462 00:21:30,721 --> 00:21:33,691 And ultimately, Alcala is arrested 463 00:21:33,761 --> 00:21:36,431 on July 24th. 464 00:21:36,501 --> 00:21:39,511 -Alcala had been found staying with his parents 465 00:21:39,587 --> 00:21:42,347 40 miles north of Huntington Beach 466 00:21:42,427 --> 00:21:44,357 in Monterrey Park. 467 00:21:44,434 --> 00:21:45,694 -As luck would have it, on the day 468 00:21:45,767 --> 00:21:47,837 that Alcala was arrested, 469 00:21:47,914 --> 00:21:50,304 they did a search warrant at his house, 470 00:21:50,374 --> 00:21:52,634 and one of the detectives saw a receipt 471 00:21:52,707 --> 00:21:54,497 for a storage facility 472 00:21:54,574 --> 00:21:57,354 in the Seattle area. 473 00:21:57,427 --> 00:21:59,747 -This discovery would be the first step 474 00:21:59,827 --> 00:22:02,997 in unearthing the secret murderous history 475 00:22:03,074 --> 00:22:05,944 of Rodney Alcala. 476 00:22:06,014 --> 00:22:07,914 -When we got into his storage locker 477 00:22:07,981 --> 00:22:12,151 immediately after he was identified and arrested, 478 00:22:12,221 --> 00:22:15,141 there's thousands of photographs of young women 479 00:22:15,214 --> 00:22:19,014 and young boys and adult women, young girls, 480 00:22:19,081 --> 00:22:22,201 that, to this day, we've been unable to identify many of them. 481 00:22:22,274 --> 00:22:25,814 So being alone in the company of Rodney Alcala, 482 00:22:25,881 --> 00:22:27,511 knowing what he did to Robin Samsoe, 483 00:22:27,587 --> 00:22:29,527 we always suspected that there were more victims. 484 00:22:29,441 --> 00:22:32,421 We just didn't know who they were and couldn't prove it. 485 00:22:32,494 --> 00:22:35,094 -The photos in the storage locker 486 00:22:35,001 --> 00:22:37,851 were not only of young girls. 487 00:22:37,521 --> 00:22:40,611 There were pictures of boys, too. 488 00:22:40,687 --> 00:22:42,977 -So he's targeting prepubescent girls. 489 00:22:43,054 --> 00:22:44,614 He's targeting women. 490 00:22:44,687 --> 00:22:47,357 Sometimes he taking pictures of young boys. 491 00:22:47,434 --> 00:22:48,644 But I think we shouldn't look 492 00:22:48,714 --> 00:22:50,764 at the differences between his victims. 493 00:22:50,834 --> 00:22:52,724 We need to look at what they've all got in common, 494 00:22:52,794 --> 00:22:55,954 And they've all got in common a particular vulnerability, 495 00:22:56,027 --> 00:22:58,117 something that he sees as a weakness, 496 00:22:58,194 --> 00:23:01,734 something that he can prey on. So that's what he's looking for, 497 00:23:01,801 --> 00:23:05,601 and it doesn't really matter to him who he sees that in. 498 00:23:05,674 --> 00:23:09,434 -The photos suggested that all the potential victims 499 00:23:09,501 --> 00:23:12,891 had willingly posed for Alcala. 500 00:23:12,968 --> 00:23:16,828 -Alcala is one of those strange but not uncommon serial killers 501 00:23:16,907 --> 00:23:18,947 who has a high I.Q., 502 00:23:18,521 --> 00:23:22,231 is fairly good-looking by objective standards. 503 00:23:22,307 --> 00:23:24,437 And we've seen this before with people like Ted Bundy 504 00:23:24,514 --> 00:23:27,004 and others, where, you know, they could probably, 505 00:23:27,074 --> 00:23:28,944 you know, attract women themselves 506 00:23:29,014 --> 00:23:32,384 and get into relationships with women in a normal relationship. 507 00:23:32,454 --> 00:23:33,474 But for some reason, 508 00:23:33,541 --> 00:23:36,211 there's something very wrong in their minds, 509 00:23:36,288 --> 00:23:38,528 and that they then get involved with women 510 00:23:38,601 --> 00:23:40,171 and then have that sexual relationship 511 00:23:40,241 --> 00:23:41,711 and then end up killing them. 512 00:23:41,787 --> 00:23:44,987 -In fact, Alcala appears to be a person 513 00:23:45,061 --> 00:23:48,381 who could have achieved many of his sexual desires 514 00:23:48,454 --> 00:23:51,914 without committing a homicide, 515 00:23:51,981 --> 00:23:55,281 and that makes him somewhat mystifying as serial killers go. 516 00:23:55,354 --> 00:23:57,674 -The police did not know it yet, 517 00:23:57,741 --> 00:24:01,001 but Alcala had killed at least seven women 518 00:24:01,074 --> 00:24:03,634 over the previous eight years. 519 00:24:03,707 --> 00:24:07,877 12-year-old Robin Samsoe was his final victim. 520 00:24:07,954 --> 00:24:09,874 Over time, he had perfected 521 00:24:09,941 --> 00:24:13,191 his pernicious pickup technique. 522 00:24:13,268 --> 00:24:17,588 -Essentially, the nature of Alcala's crimes were 523 00:24:17,361 --> 00:24:20,271 that he would present himself to women, 524 00:24:20,347 --> 00:24:23,247 often through an alias, as a photographer. 525 00:24:23,327 --> 00:24:25,477 He would basically convince people 526 00:24:25,554 --> 00:24:27,564 that he was doing a photo shoot, 527 00:24:27,634 --> 00:24:30,254 that they were a desirable part of the photo shoot. 528 00:24:30,327 --> 00:24:32,267 He would bring them to the photo shoot, 529 00:24:32,347 --> 00:24:36,787 and then he would rape, torture, and kill them. 530 00:24:36,861 --> 00:24:40,471 -Alcala is somebody who knows what his victims want to hear. 531 00:24:40,547 --> 00:24:42,527 When he comes across young women, 532 00:24:42,601 --> 00:24:45,991 he knows that he needs to appeal to their better natures 533 00:24:45,761 --> 00:24:48,601 and to compliment them, tell them how pretty they are, 534 00:24:48,674 --> 00:24:51,004 that they could be models, that he's a photographer 535 00:24:51,074 --> 00:24:53,364 who can make all of this happen for them. 536 00:24:53,434 --> 00:24:56,244 And he knows how to sound genuine, 537 00:24:56,314 --> 00:24:58,304 so he's a very accomplished predator. 538 00:24:58,374 --> 00:25:00,194 He sniffs out his prey, 539 00:25:00,261 --> 00:25:01,771 identifies their vulnerabilities, 540 00:25:01,847 --> 00:25:03,547 and moves in for the kill. 541 00:25:03,627 --> 00:25:06,867 -As well as finding photographs of unknown victims 542 00:25:06,941 --> 00:25:08,601 in the storage unit, 543 00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:10,634 detectives also uncovered 544 00:25:10,707 --> 00:25:13,587 a bag of jewelry. 545 00:25:13,661 --> 00:25:16,131 -On the serial killers, especially the rapists, 546 00:25:16,201 --> 00:25:19,211 they'll keep a little keepsake. They'll keep a trophy. 547 00:25:19,281 --> 00:25:20,551 And we had a silk pouch 548 00:25:20,627 --> 00:25:24,487 with all kinds of unidentified jewelry in there, 549 00:25:24,567 --> 00:25:26,197 stuff that we still, to this day, 550 00:25:26,274 --> 00:25:30,154 have no idea where it came from or who the jewelry belonged to. 551 00:25:30,221 --> 00:25:31,951 -They'll look at the trophy that they kept, 552 00:25:32,021 --> 00:25:33,131 in this case, jewelry, 553 00:25:33,001 --> 00:25:36,891 and they can relive that crime 554 00:25:36,961 --> 00:25:39,161 by looking at this piece of jewelry. 555 00:25:39,001 --> 00:25:42,971 The Monster was a sexually sadistic serial killer. 556 00:25:43,048 --> 00:25:46,308 He literally fantasized about these cases 557 00:25:46,381 --> 00:25:47,991 and relived them in his mind 558 00:25:48,067 --> 00:25:50,147 when he would look at these items of jewelry, 559 00:25:50,227 --> 00:25:51,467 these trophies. 560 00:25:51,547 --> 00:25:54,027 -And one particular item 561 00:25:54,107 --> 00:25:58,187 gave investigators their biggest clue yet. 562 00:25:58,261 --> 00:26:00,151 -One of the pairs of earrings in there 563 00:25:59,921 --> 00:26:01,911 were gold-ball earrings 564 00:26:01,987 --> 00:26:04,437 that Robin's mother identified 565 00:26:04,514 --> 00:26:07,034 as the ones Robin was wearing. 566 00:26:07,107 --> 00:26:11,907 -It was evidence that helped convince a jury. 567 00:26:11,987 --> 00:26:15,087 On June the 20th, 1980, 568 00:26:15,168 --> 00:26:17,518 Rodney Alcala was sentenced to death 569 00:26:17,594 --> 00:26:20,494 for the murder of Samsoe. 570 00:26:20,561 --> 00:26:23,731 But his story does not end there. 571 00:26:23,808 --> 00:26:28,668 By 1984, the conviction had been overturned. 572 00:26:28,748 --> 00:26:30,638 -I think for everyone involved in law enforcement, 573 00:26:30,714 --> 00:26:33,754 it's always frustrating when a convicted murdered 574 00:26:33,827 --> 00:26:35,987 has his sentence overturned. 575 00:26:36,061 --> 00:26:37,941 But it was first overturned based on the fact 576 00:26:38,014 --> 00:26:41,314 that improper evidence was introduced at the penalty phase. 577 00:26:41,387 --> 00:26:44,437 While we suspected that Robin had been sexually assaulted, 578 00:26:44,514 --> 00:26:47,254 there was no physical evidence to it at all. 579 00:26:47,327 --> 00:26:50,027 -The Supreme Court ruled that the jury 580 00:26:50,101 --> 00:26:53,841 should not have been informed of Alcala's conviction 581 00:26:53,481 --> 00:26:55,961 for molesting the 8-year-old girl 582 00:26:56,034 --> 00:26:58,394 in 1968. 583 00:26:58,467 --> 00:27:00,317 He remained on remand, 584 00:27:00,394 --> 00:27:04,614 and at a second trial in June 1986, 585 00:27:04,681 --> 00:27:09,241 Alcala was again found guilty of Robin Samsoe's murder 586 00:27:09,314 --> 00:27:13,294 and sentenced to death for a second time. 587 00:27:13,367 --> 00:27:16,577 But, once more, the conviction was quashed 588 00:27:16,654 --> 00:27:19,854 in April 2001. 589 00:27:19,921 --> 00:27:23,011 -The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals felt that the defense 590 00:27:23,087 --> 00:27:26,647 didn't give him adequate protection 591 00:27:26,727 --> 00:27:29,067 and that they should've gone to the crime scene 592 00:27:29,141 --> 00:27:30,651 where the body was discovered, 593 00:27:30,721 --> 00:27:32,801 and, for that reason, it was overturned. 594 00:27:32,874 --> 00:27:36,614 -Once again, Alcala remained on remand 595 00:27:36,687 --> 00:27:39,327 while authorities considered whether to try him 596 00:27:39,334 --> 00:27:43,514 for the murder of Robin Samsoe for a third time. 597 00:27:43,587 --> 00:27:46,907 It was heartbreaking for her family. 598 00:27:46,987 --> 00:27:48,977 -The Samsoe family was devastated 599 00:27:49,054 --> 00:27:50,614 each time it was overturned. 600 00:27:50,321 --> 00:27:52,001 I know this after talking to them. 601 00:27:52,074 --> 00:27:54,734 Through the years, I've become friends with the family. 602 00:27:54,807 --> 00:27:58,427 I know their personal feelings and their frustrations, 603 00:27:58,501 --> 00:28:01,371 and it was devastating to Robin's mother, 604 00:28:01,441 --> 00:28:03,441 as well as her siblings. 605 00:28:03,514 --> 00:28:06,904 -Next in line to prosecute the 58-year-old 606 00:28:06,974 --> 00:28:11,804 was Orange County Deputy D.A. Matt Murphy. 607 00:28:11,874 --> 00:28:16,064 Since Alcala's arrest in July 1979, 608 00:28:16,134 --> 00:28:18,754 technology had made great advances. 609 00:28:18,827 --> 00:28:21,267 And investigators had begun to look 610 00:28:21,348 --> 00:28:24,308 into other possible victims. 611 00:28:24,387 --> 00:28:27,367 -I obtained court orders with the assistance of Matt Murphy 612 00:28:27,441 --> 00:28:29,471 from the District Attorney's Office 613 00:28:29,547 --> 00:28:32,507 to get certain pieces of evidence out of court evidence 614 00:28:32,587 --> 00:28:35,557 to have resubmitted for DNA testing. 615 00:28:35,634 --> 00:28:38,084 In the 1980s, when these trials were taking place, 616 00:28:38,154 --> 00:28:40,654 nobody had ever heard of DNA. 617 00:28:40,727 --> 00:28:43,507 Now there had been advancements which, even since that time, 618 00:28:43,581 --> 00:28:45,731 have been further advanced. 619 00:28:45,808 --> 00:28:48,598 -Revisiting postmortem reports, 620 00:28:48,674 --> 00:28:53,154 investigators found that Alcala was likely to be responsible 621 00:28:53,221 --> 00:28:56,911 for more deaths than just Robin Samsoe's. 622 00:28:56,987 --> 00:28:59,547 -There were four unsolved murders out of L.A. County. 623 00:28:59,621 --> 00:29:02,451 There was Jill Barcomb, who was found on a fire road 624 00:29:02,454 --> 00:29:04,994 up in the mountains about Hollywood. 625 00:29:05,067 --> 00:29:07,437 There was Georgia Wixted, who was a young woman 626 00:29:07,514 --> 00:29:10,234 who'd just moved into her own apartment in Malibu. 627 00:29:10,307 --> 00:29:12,897 There was Charlotte Lamb, who was another woman 628 00:29:12,974 --> 00:29:14,754 who'd moved here from the Midwest. 629 00:29:14,821 --> 00:29:17,111 She was found in a laundry room in an apartment complex 630 00:29:17,187 --> 00:29:19,087 in the city of El Segundo. 631 00:29:19,161 --> 00:29:23,151 And then we have Jill Parenteau, who lived in Burbank. 632 00:29:23,221 --> 00:29:24,451 We had these four murders. 633 00:29:24,528 --> 00:29:28,138 Now, three of them, we had really good DNA, 634 00:29:28,214 --> 00:29:29,794 and one of the things that was consistent 635 00:29:29,861 --> 00:29:32,231 with all of Rodney Alcala's rapes and murders 636 00:29:32,307 --> 00:29:34,907 is that his semen was located 637 00:29:34,981 --> 00:29:37,361 in virtually every inch of the body of these poor women. 638 00:29:37,434 --> 00:29:41,624 So they're -- These were long, ongoing, 639 00:29:41,361 --> 00:29:44,491 torturous murders and rapes. 640 00:29:44,561 --> 00:29:49,791 -Over the years, Alcala had developed a familiar M.O. 641 00:29:49,867 --> 00:29:52,197 -He would kill, very often, by strangulation. 642 00:29:52,274 --> 00:29:55,024 But before ultimately killing somebody, 643 00:29:55,094 --> 00:29:57,884 he would strangle them to the point of near death 644 00:29:57,954 --> 00:30:00,334 and then allow them to be revived. 645 00:30:00,401 --> 00:30:02,041 Strangle them to the point of death, 646 00:30:02,114 --> 00:30:04,234 allow them to be returned to life, 647 00:30:04,301 --> 00:30:06,931 and then finally, at some point, kill them. 648 00:30:07,007 --> 00:30:12,507 This is a man who got his sexual excitement and arousal 649 00:30:12,281 --> 00:30:16,831 from being right there at the precipice of life and death. 650 00:30:16,901 --> 00:30:21,371 He needs to see the fire of terror in the woman's eyes 651 00:30:21,441 --> 00:30:25,431 as he's on the verge of snuffing out her soul 652 00:30:25,501 --> 00:30:27,491 for him to be aroused. 653 00:30:27,567 --> 00:30:30,397 -As Matt Murphy prepared to try Alcala 654 00:30:30,474 --> 00:30:33,354 with the four newly discovered murders, 655 00:30:33,427 --> 00:30:36,867 he was still intent on getting a third guilty verdict 656 00:30:36,947 --> 00:30:40,827 for Robin Samsoe and her family. 657 00:30:40,901 --> 00:30:43,591 -There's no free murders. 658 00:30:43,661 --> 00:30:45,031 If somebody kills 10 people, 659 00:30:45,101 --> 00:30:46,761 and there's an 11th out there that's really hard, 660 00:30:46,834 --> 00:30:48,644 we don't give them a freebie and just go with the 10. 661 00:30:48,714 --> 00:30:51,324 We hold them accountable for every single person they kill. 662 00:30:51,394 --> 00:30:54,864 And it's more work for the prosecution. 663 00:30:54,934 --> 00:30:58,574 It's more work for the police. But to a man and woman, 664 00:30:58,647 --> 00:31:02,087 the police who have worked on this, they understand. 665 00:31:01,761 --> 00:31:03,541 People are happy to do the work 666 00:31:03,614 --> 00:31:06,844 if we can bring justice to the families, so it's -- 667 00:31:06,914 --> 00:31:09,204 Every one that we can get him on, we're going to try him on. 668 00:31:09,274 --> 00:31:11,654 -Rodney Alcala's latest trial 669 00:31:11,721 --> 00:31:15,651 was set for January the 11th, 2010, 670 00:31:15,721 --> 00:31:19,871 but this time, he was ready to employ a new tactic. 671 00:31:19,941 --> 00:31:24,471 The 66-year-old believed there was only one person in the world 672 00:31:24,547 --> 00:31:27,227 who could do a decent job of defending him, 673 00:31:27,301 --> 00:31:30,441 and that man was himself. 674 00:31:30,514 --> 00:31:33,294 He was accused of the murder of four women 675 00:31:33,361 --> 00:31:38,311 and one child, 12-year-old Robin Samsoe. 676 00:31:38,381 --> 00:31:41,681 -Alcala decides to represent himself at trial. 677 00:31:41,754 --> 00:31:43,504 And there's an old saying that says, 678 00:31:43,574 --> 00:31:45,384 "Anyone who chooses to represent themselves 679 00:31:45,321 --> 00:31:48,601 has a fool for a client," and that's very true in this case. 680 00:31:48,674 --> 00:31:50,244 And he's not just a fool. 681 00:31:50,314 --> 00:31:53,254 He's an absolute narcissist, as well. 682 00:31:53,321 --> 00:31:55,941 -He wanted to be up there in the spotlight, 683 00:31:56,014 --> 00:31:57,874 and he wanted to tell his side of the story, 684 00:31:57,947 --> 00:32:01,147 because he thought he was the smartest guy in the room. 685 00:32:01,221 --> 00:32:05,231 -Alcala was up against the formidable prosecution team 686 00:32:05,301 --> 00:32:07,491 of Gina Satriano 687 00:32:07,568 --> 00:32:10,998 and Orange County Deputy D.A. Matt Murphy. 688 00:32:11,074 --> 00:32:15,164 -Matt Murphy is a prosecutorial genius. 689 00:32:15,001 --> 00:32:19,231 He's got the charm and the wit 690 00:32:19,301 --> 00:32:21,631 to draw a jury in 691 00:32:21,707 --> 00:32:24,427 and control them in the palm of his hand. 692 00:32:24,201 --> 00:32:28,131 He knows what to say and when to say it for its maximum effect. 693 00:32:28,201 --> 00:32:30,651 I couldn't have asked for a better prosecutor in this case. 694 00:32:30,721 --> 00:32:33,311 -It's kind of this very surreal process, 695 00:32:33,387 --> 00:32:35,677 but you actually kind of get to know the guy. 696 00:32:35,754 --> 00:32:37,434 You know, it's like you would a lawyer. 697 00:32:37,501 --> 00:32:39,501 You spend hours together. You're sitting next to each other. 698 00:32:39,574 --> 00:32:41,914 You're working out complex evidentiary things 699 00:32:41,981 --> 00:32:43,471 and figuring out what the questionnaires 700 00:32:43,541 --> 00:32:44,581 are going to contain. 701 00:32:44,654 --> 00:32:46,714 And just like you get to know a lawyer, 702 00:32:46,787 --> 00:32:48,137 here was Rodney Alcala. 703 00:32:48,214 --> 00:32:50,674 It was very dark 704 00:32:50,747 --> 00:32:53,367 but also fascinating. 705 00:32:53,448 --> 00:32:55,538 Maybe I'm twisted, but it was interesting. 706 00:32:55,614 --> 00:32:57,724 -Murphy would have to treat Alcala 707 00:32:57,794 --> 00:32:59,714 with the same respect he did 708 00:32:59,281 --> 00:33:03,191 with any other defense attorney he may have come up against. 709 00:33:03,267 --> 00:33:04,997 -As a professional, you've got to deal with him, 710 00:33:05,074 --> 00:33:07,034 and you've got to engage him in conversation, 711 00:33:07,107 --> 00:33:08,127 and you got to talk to him. 712 00:33:08,201 --> 00:33:11,161 And what I saw when I dealt with him 713 00:33:11,234 --> 00:33:14,074 is I could see how every one of these young women 714 00:33:14,147 --> 00:33:16,467 would get in the car, because he was so intelligent. 715 00:33:16,541 --> 00:33:17,671 He was a handsome guy -- 716 00:33:17,747 --> 00:33:21,017 not by the time we got to him, but back then. 717 00:33:21,094 --> 00:33:24,934 You know, all that, you could see how this very intelligent, 718 00:33:25,001 --> 00:33:27,631 very charming, very handsome guy 719 00:33:27,708 --> 00:33:31,148 could lure these women into positions of vulnerability 720 00:33:31,221 --> 00:33:33,091 where he would rape them and murder them. 721 00:33:33,161 --> 00:33:35,501 -During one of their conversations, 722 00:33:35,574 --> 00:33:38,054 Alcala shared his experience 723 00:33:38,127 --> 00:33:40,937 of living on death row. 724 00:33:41,014 --> 00:33:42,964 -He goes, "We have six yards." He goes -- 725 00:33:42,601 --> 00:33:45,251 They have a softy yard, basically. 726 00:33:45,321 --> 00:33:46,991 They call it the wienie yard. 727 00:33:47,068 --> 00:33:48,148 And he goes, "Matt --" He called me Matt -- 728 00:33:48,221 --> 00:33:50,471 "Matt, I'm not violent. 729 00:33:50,547 --> 00:33:52,187 I'm not a violent guy. I'm in the wienie yard. 730 00:33:52,267 --> 00:33:55,337 I'm not with those guys. I'm not violent." 731 00:33:55,281 --> 00:33:58,431 This is a guy who raped and bashed the skull in 732 00:33:58,501 --> 00:34:00,311 of Georgia Wixted. 733 00:34:00,381 --> 00:34:03,051 This is a guy who smashed the face in of Jill Barcomb 734 00:34:03,121 --> 00:34:04,421 with a rock, and he's looking at me like, 735 00:34:04,494 --> 00:34:07,434 "Hey, buddy, I'm not violent. 736 00:34:07,501 --> 00:34:09,291 I'm not on that yard with those guys. 737 00:34:08,961 --> 00:34:12,031 I'm with the respectable guys on death row." 738 00:34:12,107 --> 00:34:13,977 You know, that was just -- 739 00:34:14,054 --> 00:34:16,534 That was a moment I'll also never forget. 740 00:34:16,601 --> 00:34:19,321 -Alcala didn't seem to offer any defense 741 00:34:19,394 --> 00:34:22,434 to the four new murder charges against him, 742 00:34:22,507 --> 00:34:27,367 but he defiantly fought the Robin Samsoe one. 743 00:34:27,441 --> 00:34:33,031 By 2010, Huntington Beach detective Steve Mack had retired 744 00:34:32,601 --> 00:34:35,181 after spending most of his career 745 00:34:34,921 --> 00:34:38,071 fighting for justice for Robin's family. 746 00:34:38,147 --> 00:34:42,867 -I sat with the family through a lot of the trial, 747 00:34:42,941 --> 00:34:45,091 and I would speak to them before we went into court 748 00:34:45,167 --> 00:34:47,107 and afterwards. 749 00:34:47,181 --> 00:34:49,361 And every now and then, I would talk to Matt Murphy 750 00:34:49,201 --> 00:34:51,821 regarding the tactics of the trial. 751 00:34:51,894 --> 00:34:54,554 But since I wasn't actually participating, 752 00:34:54,627 --> 00:34:57,467 I tried to stay out of that aspect of it. 753 00:34:57,547 --> 00:35:02,207 -During the five-week trial at Orange County Superior Court, 754 00:35:02,287 --> 00:35:05,647 Alcala continued to mentally torture 755 00:35:05,721 --> 00:35:07,431 Robin Samsoe's mother. 756 00:35:07,501 --> 00:35:10,561 -This woman has been -- Her credibility is questioned. 757 00:35:10,634 --> 00:35:13,874 And, you know, here, the third time around, 758 00:35:13,941 --> 00:35:16,091 Rodney Alcala is representing himself, 759 00:35:16,161 --> 00:35:20,661 so she's getting cross-examined by the murderer of her daughter, 760 00:35:20,201 --> 00:35:22,071 who's calling her a liar. 761 00:35:22,147 --> 00:35:23,277 I mean, imagine that. 762 00:35:23,354 --> 00:35:26,234 -To watch him cross-examine Robin's mother 763 00:35:26,308 --> 00:35:27,918 and get within feet of her 764 00:35:27,994 --> 00:35:31,714 and ask her personal questions really made me angry 765 00:35:31,521 --> 00:35:33,891 that he should be allowed to be that close. 766 00:35:33,967 --> 00:35:35,277 I think the court should've ruled 767 00:35:35,354 --> 00:35:38,454 that if you want to talk to her, you want to cross-examine her, 768 00:35:38,527 --> 00:35:39,987 that you need to remain in your chair 769 00:35:40,061 --> 00:35:42,201 and sitting at the counsel table. 770 00:35:42,274 --> 00:35:45,994 It got real frustrating for me that he was allowed to do that. 771 00:35:46,067 --> 00:35:47,977 Again, in my mind, 772 00:35:48,054 --> 00:35:52,234 he's reliving that incident 773 00:35:52,301 --> 00:35:55,351 through his questions of Robin's mother. 774 00:35:55,427 --> 00:35:58,067 -This time around, the prosecution were armed 775 00:35:58,147 --> 00:36:01,497 with new evidence in relation to Robin's murder -- 776 00:36:01,574 --> 00:36:05,264 a pair of earrings found in Alcala's storage locker 777 00:36:05,334 --> 00:36:07,944 back in 1979. 778 00:36:08,014 --> 00:36:11,054 The killer had always claimed that they belonged to him, 779 00:36:11,127 --> 00:36:14,877 but DNA testing proved that to be a lie. 780 00:36:14,954 --> 00:36:18,694 They in fact belonged to another of his victims. 781 00:36:18,768 --> 00:36:22,638 -We got 0.06 nanograms of DNA belonging to Charlotte Lamb, 782 00:36:22,714 --> 00:36:25,864 so when we're in that courtroom, it's almost like Charlotte Lamb 783 00:36:25,934 --> 00:36:28,704 is whispering from the grave to our jury, 784 00:36:28,774 --> 00:36:31,144 "Robin's mother was right. 785 00:36:31,214 --> 00:36:32,894 Rodney Alcala keeps earrings." 786 00:36:32,967 --> 00:36:35,847 It was the most powerful evidence you could ever hope. 787 00:36:35,927 --> 00:36:38,157 And just this tiny, little piece of DNA 788 00:36:38,234 --> 00:36:40,924 that sat there for decades 789 00:36:40,994 --> 00:36:44,494 and, you know, technology caught up to it, thank God. 790 00:36:44,568 --> 00:36:49,218 And that was sort of an emotional part of the trial, 791 00:36:49,161 --> 00:36:51,231 when the jury got to realize that Robin's mother, 792 00:36:51,307 --> 00:36:52,757 after all of these years 793 00:36:52,834 --> 00:36:55,224 and after all of these cross-examinations, 794 00:36:55,294 --> 00:36:57,604 was conclusively proven to be right 795 00:36:57,674 --> 00:36:59,754 by the DNA of Charlotte Lamb on another earring 796 00:36:59,821 --> 00:37:01,531 found in the exact same pouch 797 00:37:01,401 --> 00:37:04,461 as the ones that Robin was wearing that day. 798 00:37:04,534 --> 00:37:07,294 -Linking the murder of Charlotte Lamb 799 00:37:07,361 --> 00:37:09,531 to the murder of Robin Samsoe 800 00:37:09,601 --> 00:37:14,271 looked to be the final nail in the coffin for Rodney Alcala. 801 00:37:14,347 --> 00:37:17,527 On February the 25th, 2010, 802 00:37:17,601 --> 00:37:19,531 the jury had reached a verdict 803 00:37:19,601 --> 00:37:24,011 on all five murder charges. 804 00:37:23,681 --> 00:37:26,531 -Three of those cases, we had very strong DNA, 805 00:37:26,607 --> 00:37:29,447 but on Jill Parenteau, it was a tougher case. 806 00:37:29,521 --> 00:37:31,601 But we had a -- Fortunately, we had a great jury, 807 00:37:31,674 --> 00:37:34,114 and we had Francisco Briseno as our judge. 808 00:37:34,188 --> 00:37:35,378 So they did the right thing, 809 00:37:35,454 --> 00:37:37,124 and they convicted on all of the murders -- 810 00:37:37,194 --> 00:37:39,164 on Robin, on Jill Barcomb, 811 00:37:39,234 --> 00:37:43,124 on Georgia Wixted, all of them. 812 00:37:43,194 --> 00:37:46,924 So he was held accountable for every one of those young women. 813 00:37:46,994 --> 00:37:49,804 -On March the 30th, 2010, 814 00:37:49,874 --> 00:37:54,964 Rodney Alcala was sentenced to death for a third time. 815 00:37:55,034 --> 00:37:57,854 The tactic of representing himself in court 816 00:37:57,928 --> 00:37:59,998 had backfired spectacularly. 817 00:38:00,074 --> 00:38:01,784 -This guy just thought, you know, 818 00:38:01,854 --> 00:38:03,154 nothing could touch him, 819 00:38:03,227 --> 00:38:05,377 and he was the smartest guy in the room, 820 00:38:05,454 --> 00:38:08,614 and as long as he could talk, he would get away with it. 821 00:38:08,681 --> 00:38:10,101 Ultimately, he was proven wrong. 822 00:38:10,174 --> 00:38:11,304 -When the verdict came back, 823 00:38:11,374 --> 00:38:13,194 it came back as I expected that it was, 824 00:38:13,261 --> 00:38:14,951 but it's still a feeling of elation 825 00:38:15,021 --> 00:38:17,451 that this guy lost 826 00:38:16,961 --> 00:38:20,711 his third attempt at freedom. 827 00:38:20,781 --> 00:38:23,641 I'm just waiting for the day to get the phone call 828 00:38:23,714 --> 00:38:25,524 that Mother Nature and Father Time 829 00:38:25,594 --> 00:38:27,454 did what the courts would never do 830 00:38:27,527 --> 00:38:29,747 and that he's no longer stealing oxygen 831 00:38:29,821 --> 00:38:31,821 from decent people. 832 00:38:31,894 --> 00:38:34,584 -The following year, 2011, 833 00:38:34,654 --> 00:38:38,694 Alcala was charged with two murders in New York -- 834 00:38:38,768 --> 00:38:42,588 23-year-olds Cornelia Crilley in 1971 835 00:38:42,667 --> 00:38:47,587 and Ellen Hover in 1977. 836 00:38:47,161 --> 00:38:51,331 -Alcala is one of those killers 837 00:38:50,841 --> 00:38:55,041 who believed he was cleverer. 838 00:38:55,114 --> 00:38:57,544 He could hide in plain sight. 839 00:38:57,614 --> 00:38:58,774 "I'm John Berger in New York." 840 00:38:58,847 --> 00:39:01,517 "I'm an ordinary, humble man in Los Angeles. 841 00:39:01,594 --> 00:39:03,394 I couldn't possibly be dangerous." 842 00:39:02,961 --> 00:39:06,311 He is, in some respects, 843 00:39:06,381 --> 00:39:09,151 even more dangerous, 844 00:39:09,221 --> 00:39:12,401 like a perfectly camouflaged snake 845 00:39:12,474 --> 00:39:13,824 that you tread on by accident 846 00:39:13,894 --> 00:39:17,824 because you don't realize it's there. 847 00:39:17,894 --> 00:39:21,594 -To avoid another trial, Alcala pled guilty 848 00:39:21,161 --> 00:39:23,671 to both New York murders, 849 00:39:23,747 --> 00:39:27,167 taking his total number of victims to seven. 850 00:39:27,241 --> 00:39:30,191 In 2010, over 100 pictures 851 00:39:30,261 --> 00:39:33,861 found in Alcala's Seattle storage unit 852 00:39:33,601 --> 00:39:37,271 were released into the public domain by detectives 853 00:39:37,347 --> 00:39:41,167 in a bid to identify potential victims. 854 00:39:40,681 --> 00:39:44,031 As a result, Alcala has since been charged 855 00:39:44,107 --> 00:39:46,347 with killing a 28-year-old woman 856 00:39:46,421 --> 00:39:49,831 in Wyoming in 1977. 857 00:39:49,901 --> 00:39:52,651 Many of the photographs found in the locker 858 00:39:52,721 --> 00:39:55,071 were too graphic to be released, 859 00:39:55,147 --> 00:40:00,147 meaning many of the women remain unaccounted for. 860 00:40:00,227 --> 00:40:04,577 -Alcala may be the most dangerous of all the killers 861 00:40:04,654 --> 00:40:07,604 that have ever been caught 862 00:40:07,674 --> 00:40:09,074 because while he was only charged 863 00:40:09,141 --> 00:40:11,451 with a relatively small number of murders, 864 00:40:11,527 --> 00:40:13,747 the number of pictures he had 865 00:40:13,821 --> 00:40:16,731 means that he may have killed in excess of 100 people. 866 00:40:19,054 --> 00:40:21,724 -Given the volume of the photographs, 867 00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:24,664 you know, we always knew that we had other victims. 868 00:40:24,734 --> 00:40:27,534 We just -- We didn't know who they were. 869 00:40:27,601 --> 00:40:31,171 -Alcala was forced to pay for some of his crimes. 870 00:40:31,247 --> 00:40:33,517 But for the families of the deceased, 871 00:40:33,594 --> 00:40:36,264 the pain of losing a loved one 872 00:40:36,334 --> 00:40:39,684 is a punishment that lasts forever. 873 00:40:39,754 --> 00:40:42,754 -I don't think Robin's family is ever going to be at peace. 874 00:40:42,521 --> 00:40:45,671 They had their 12-year-old sister kidnapped 875 00:40:45,741 --> 00:40:47,371 and brutally murdered 876 00:40:47,447 --> 00:40:49,977 in the mountains of Los Angeles County. 877 00:40:50,054 --> 00:40:51,254 They live with that every day 878 00:40:51,161 --> 00:40:52,791 when they look at her photographs 879 00:40:52,868 --> 00:40:53,948 that they have on their shelves. 880 00:40:54,027 --> 00:40:58,257 It tormented them then, and when people bring it up today, 881 00:40:58,334 --> 00:40:59,714 it's further torment for them, 882 00:40:59,781 --> 00:41:02,591 so I don't think they'll ever be at peace. 883 00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:05,447 They'll certainly be elated the day he dies, 884 00:41:05,521 --> 00:41:07,031 but at peace? 885 00:41:07,107 --> 00:41:09,087 I think they're just dealing with it. 886 00:41:11,447 --> 00:41:14,077 -74-year-old Rodney Alcala 887 00:41:14,154 --> 00:41:16,124 remains on death row 888 00:41:16,194 --> 00:41:19,754 in Corcoran State Prison in California. 889 00:41:19,821 --> 00:41:23,451 He has never admitted to any other murders. 890 00:41:23,527 --> 00:41:26,327 -Well, if I was to describe Alcala 891 00:41:26,401 --> 00:41:28,991 with three words, it would be "me, me, me." 892 00:41:29,067 --> 00:41:31,137 This man is an absolute narcissist. 893 00:41:31,214 --> 00:41:32,924 And he doesn't care about the rights 894 00:41:32,994 --> 00:41:35,234 or the feelings of other people, 895 00:41:35,307 --> 00:41:37,597 and all of his behavior revolves around him. 896 00:41:37,674 --> 00:41:39,384 So he's somebody 897 00:41:39,454 --> 00:41:42,544 who was only going to ever pursue his own desires, 898 00:41:42,614 --> 00:41:43,894 and unfortunately, 899 00:41:43,968 --> 00:41:46,468 this ended up in a lot of people losing their lives. 900 00:41:46,541 --> 00:41:48,391 -For these psychopaths, their main thing -- 901 00:41:48,467 --> 00:41:50,817 They want to control things. They want to be in control. 902 00:41:50,894 --> 00:41:54,444 They want the attention on them. That's kind of what drives them. 903 00:41:54,514 --> 00:41:56,264 He went up. He made his whole pitch, 904 00:41:56,334 --> 00:41:58,394 and they soundly rejected him. 905 00:41:58,467 --> 00:42:00,027 They rejected his defense. 906 00:42:00,107 --> 00:42:02,547 They rejected everything that he stood for 907 00:42:02,621 --> 00:42:07,041 and found that he deserved to die for what he did. 908 00:42:07,114 --> 00:42:10,894 -My feelings towards The Monster. It's rage. 909 00:42:10,967 --> 00:42:14,777 It's anger, and I really hope that he's suffering. 910 00:42:14,854 --> 00:42:17,304 He's in poor physical health. 911 00:42:17,374 --> 00:42:19,864 He's being fed through a feeding tube. 912 00:42:19,934 --> 00:42:22,854 It's reported that he has Alzheimer's. 913 00:42:22,921 --> 00:42:25,311 I hope all of this is true and that, one day, 914 00:42:25,381 --> 00:42:28,711 I get that phone call that he is gone, 915 00:42:28,781 --> 00:42:32,631 and nobody will ever have to hear his name again. 916 00:42:32,707 --> 00:42:35,957 -Rodney Alcala killed at least six women 917 00:42:36,034 --> 00:42:37,834 and a 12-year-old girl. 918 00:42:37,907 --> 00:42:42,757 He was a terrifying predator hiding behind a charming persona 919 00:42:42,834 --> 00:42:44,364 and attacked his victims 920 00:42:44,434 --> 00:42:48,034 for nothing other than his own selfish pleasures. 921 00:42:48,101 --> 00:42:52,271 To this day, we still do not know why he did it. 922 00:42:52,347 --> 00:42:56,247 When he finally dies, Alcala will be remembered 923 00:42:56,321 --> 00:42:59,251 as one of the most dangerous men in America 924 00:42:59,161 --> 00:43:02,531 and one of the world's most evil killers. 73002

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