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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,734 --> 00:00:12,034 -Shortly before midnight on July the 22nd, 1991, 2 00:00:11,841 --> 00:00:14,751 two Milwaukee police officers were flagged down 3 00:00:14,827 --> 00:00:18,537 in their patrol car by a man with a pair of handcuffs 4 00:00:18,614 --> 00:00:20,594 dangling from one wrist. 5 00:00:20,667 --> 00:00:24,507 The police had no idea that this bizarre encounter 6 00:00:24,581 --> 00:00:26,001 would lead to the arrest 7 00:00:26,074 --> 00:00:30,514 of one of the most prolific serial killers in U.S. history. 8 00:00:30,587 --> 00:00:33,667 -That night people were afraid. 9 00:00:33,441 --> 00:00:35,531 People were whispering under their breaths, 10 00:00:35,601 --> 00:00:36,921 you know, it was the devil. 11 00:00:36,994 --> 00:00:38,404 It's the devil. 12 00:00:38,474 --> 00:00:41,394 -The man had escaped from a small one-bedroom apartment 13 00:00:41,467 --> 00:00:43,377 on North 25th Street. 14 00:00:43,454 --> 00:00:45,824 When the officers went to investigate, 15 00:00:45,894 --> 00:00:48,484 they found themselves in a living nightmare. 16 00:00:48,554 --> 00:00:50,764 -They saw the body parts and then one of the officers 17 00:00:50,834 --> 00:00:52,454 said he heard a scream. 18 00:00:52,527 --> 00:00:53,387 Then he realized later he was the one who screamed 19 00:00:53,467 --> 00:00:54,807 when he saw the body. 20 00:00:54,481 --> 00:00:58,371 -Without detection, 31-year-old Jeffrey Dahmer 21 00:00:58,441 --> 00:01:03,251 had killed 17 young men across a 13-year period. 22 00:01:03,248 --> 00:01:06,468 -He hasn't got the same level of repulsion and shock 23 00:01:06,541 --> 00:01:10,371 at dead bodies or mutilated bodies that most of us have. 24 00:01:10,441 --> 00:01:12,871 It was just another aspect of his life. 25 00:01:12,947 --> 00:01:16,407 -Jeffrey Dahmer had etched his name in history 26 00:01:16,281 --> 00:01:19,721 as one of the world's most evil killers. 27 00:01:39,674 --> 00:01:43,714 The name Jeffrey Dahmer has become synonymous with evil. 28 00:01:43,781 --> 00:01:49,931 Between 1978 and 1991 he killed 17 young men and boys 29 00:01:50,001 --> 00:01:53,131 by drugging them before strangling them to death. 30 00:01:53,201 --> 00:01:56,111 As the revelations of the murders came to light, 31 00:01:56,181 --> 00:01:59,751 it was the behavior of Dahmer once he'd killed his victims 32 00:01:59,561 --> 00:02:02,061 that really stunned the world 33 00:02:02,134 --> 00:02:06,034 with stories of necrophilia and cannibalism. 34 00:02:06,107 --> 00:02:09,157 The first journalist to arrive at the crime scene 35 00:02:09,234 --> 00:02:10,354 was Anne E. Schwartz. 36 00:02:10,427 --> 00:02:12,937 -It wasn't a gory crime scene. 37 00:02:13,014 --> 00:02:14,574 It was really quite antiseptic. 38 00:02:14,647 --> 00:02:17,997 It was a very simple one-bedroom with a kitchen 39 00:02:18,074 --> 00:02:19,714 and a living room. 40 00:02:19,781 --> 00:02:23,561 And it looked like a regular single guy lived there. 41 00:02:23,634 --> 00:02:27,034 You know some dishes in the sink, but by and large, 42 00:02:27,107 --> 00:02:29,487 this was not some chamber of horrors 43 00:02:29,568 --> 00:02:31,468 like people will describe it. 44 00:02:31,541 --> 00:02:33,711 Certainly, not at first look. 45 00:02:33,781 --> 00:02:37,631 Once detectives and officers started searching further, 46 00:02:37,701 --> 00:02:39,931 that's when they found out the actual horror 47 00:02:40,001 --> 00:02:42,651 was in that apartment. 48 00:02:42,727 --> 00:02:46,157 -The story of this macabre killer begins 30 years 49 00:02:46,234 --> 00:02:48,634 before his arrest. 50 00:02:48,707 --> 00:02:52,067 Jeffrey Dahmer was born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin 51 00:02:52,147 --> 00:02:55,227 on May the 21st, 1960. 52 00:02:55,307 --> 00:03:00,927 The family moved to Iowa before settling in Ohio in 1966. 53 00:03:01,001 --> 00:03:05,511 -He lived with these parents who were constantly, 54 00:03:05,581 --> 00:03:08,731 constantly as he put it "at each other's throats." 55 00:03:08,801 --> 00:03:12,041 You know, his mother appeared to have been 56 00:03:12,114 --> 00:03:16,004 this raging bundle of neurotic behavior. 57 00:03:15,841 --> 00:03:19,431 Parents were constantly fighting and screaming. 58 00:03:19,507 --> 00:03:22,887 You know, Dahmer himself evidently throughout much 59 00:03:22,968 --> 00:03:24,418 of his early life 60 00:03:24,494 --> 00:03:26,964 was completely, completely ignored by both of them. 61 00:03:27,034 --> 00:03:33,894 They were so caught up in their own psychological turmoil. 62 00:03:33,961 --> 00:03:37,021 -Jeffrey Dahmer never really made close social links 63 00:03:37,094 --> 00:03:38,674 with any of his peers. 64 00:03:38,741 --> 00:03:40,111 He was a little bit odd. 65 00:03:40,187 --> 00:03:43,777 And if you speak to his school friends at the time, 66 00:03:43,854 --> 00:03:47,074 he didn't seem to have a lot of empathy for other children. 67 00:03:47,147 --> 00:03:49,597 So when children would fall over in the playground 68 00:03:49,674 --> 00:03:51,174 or get hurt or cry, 69 00:03:51,247 --> 00:03:53,107 he didn't appear to be affected by that 70 00:03:53,181 --> 00:03:55,151 and would sometimes laugh at them. 71 00:03:55,221 --> 00:04:00,731 So something wasn't quite right with a young Jeffrey Dahmer. 72 00:04:00,807 --> 00:04:04,227 -Feeling ostracized by his family and classmates, 73 00:04:04,307 --> 00:04:07,747 Dahmer spends a lot of time playing alone in the woods 74 00:04:07,821 --> 00:04:09,911 surrounding his Ohio home. 75 00:04:09,987 --> 00:04:12,397 -Well, he had a really morbid curiosity with death 76 00:04:12,474 --> 00:04:13,954 from quite a young age. 77 00:04:14,027 --> 00:04:17,667 And this started with a fairly innocent insect collection, 78 00:04:17,747 --> 00:04:20,617 and he would keep the bodies of insects inside jars 79 00:04:20,694 --> 00:04:22,294 full of chemicals. 80 00:04:22,361 --> 00:04:23,851 This soon progressed. 81 00:04:23,921 --> 00:04:26,001 He would go fishing, and he was interested 82 00:04:26,074 --> 00:04:28,234 in what the fish looked like on the inside, 83 00:04:28,307 --> 00:04:32,037 so he would chop up the fish to have a look at this. 84 00:04:32,114 --> 00:04:34,924 -Dahmer took his fish and cut it open. 85 00:04:34,994 --> 00:04:39,554 Was fascinated with the inside of the fish, 86 00:04:39,621 --> 00:04:41,931 and one of his little friends asked him, 87 00:04:42,001 --> 00:04:43,551 "Jeffrey, why do you... 88 00:04:43,621 --> 00:04:45,591 what are you doing?" 89 00:04:45,667 --> 00:04:47,887 And he said, "Just look at it." 90 00:04:47,961 --> 00:04:51,581 -You know, and this escalates to the point 91 00:04:51,654 --> 00:04:54,914 that he's apparently killing stray dogs 92 00:04:54,721 --> 00:04:57,381 and decapitating them. 93 00:04:57,454 --> 00:04:59,004 -One of the young boys in the neighborhood 94 00:04:59,074 --> 00:05:02,514 was walking in the woods behind Dahmer's house 95 00:05:02,588 --> 00:05:04,218 when Dahmer was a teenager, 96 00:05:04,294 --> 00:05:06,854 and he came across the body of a dead dog, 97 00:05:06,921 --> 00:05:10,071 and it was mutilated, and it was nailed to a tree. 98 00:05:10,147 --> 00:05:15,237 -So, there's some early interest in animal anatomy 99 00:05:15,314 --> 00:05:20,364 that blossoms into this very, very dark obsession, 100 00:05:20,434 --> 00:05:26,224 and then somehow becomes tangled up with his own sexuality. 101 00:05:26,294 --> 00:05:30,114 -Dahmer continued to struggle to fit in at high school 102 00:05:30,181 --> 00:05:33,061 and turned to alcohol from a young age. 103 00:05:33,134 --> 00:05:35,624 -Well, Dahmer started drinking when he was at school, 104 00:05:35,694 --> 00:05:37,404 and one of his former classmates remembered 105 00:05:37,474 --> 00:05:39,324 that he used to come in with a cup 106 00:05:39,394 --> 00:05:41,234 and he didn't have tea or coffee in this cup. 107 00:05:41,301 --> 00:05:43,391 He had scotch whiskey in it. 108 00:05:43,467 --> 00:05:47,577 So this was quite a disturbing behavior for a teenager. 109 00:05:47,654 --> 00:05:51,234 -There's a thought that in hindsight you ask 110 00:05:51,307 --> 00:05:53,407 why more people didn't try to intervene. 111 00:05:53,487 --> 00:05:56,097 You've got a kid coming drunk to school. 112 00:05:56,174 --> 00:05:57,614 But back in the '70s 113 00:05:57,481 --> 00:06:00,871 when Dahmer's coming to school intoxicated, 114 00:06:00,941 --> 00:06:03,551 nobody thinks, "Gee, we better make sure we take care of this 115 00:06:03,627 --> 00:06:08,637 because what if he turns out to be a serial killer?" 116 00:06:08,714 --> 00:06:14,074 -In the summer of 1978 Dahmer's parents finally divorced. 117 00:06:14,147 --> 00:06:16,167 -The breakdown of Jeffrey Dahmer's parent's marriage 118 00:06:16,247 --> 00:06:17,717 was quite a tough time for him. 119 00:06:17,561 --> 00:06:20,171 His parents were at each other's throats. 120 00:06:20,247 --> 00:06:22,487 It was not an amicable divorce at all. 121 00:06:22,561 --> 00:06:25,601 And each of them was forcing him to side with them, 122 00:06:25,674 --> 00:06:28,984 so he felt very much torn between his parents. 123 00:06:29,054 --> 00:06:32,204 So this was a real source of conflict for him. 124 00:06:32,274 --> 00:06:35,154 And I think at this time children often, 125 00:06:34,921 --> 00:06:38,151 who have these experiences, will retreat into themselves. 126 00:06:38,221 --> 00:06:40,001 They will preoccupy themselves with things 127 00:06:40,074 --> 00:06:41,594 that they're interested in 128 00:06:41,661 --> 00:06:44,351 and will lose themselves in their own fantasy world. 129 00:06:44,421 --> 00:06:46,671 And I think that's very much what happened with Dahmer. 130 00:06:46,741 --> 00:06:49,551 -Having just recently graduated from high school, 131 00:06:49,627 --> 00:06:52,347 Dahmer soon had no one around him at all. 132 00:06:52,427 --> 00:06:55,717 -Well, in 1978 Jeffrey Dahmer was 18. 133 00:06:55,794 --> 00:06:58,714 His mother had gone away with his younger brother, 134 00:06:58,481 --> 00:07:00,911 and his father was living in a hotel. 135 00:07:00,988 --> 00:07:03,348 So he's alone, and he's ruminating, 136 00:07:03,421 --> 00:07:05,591 and he's fantasizing, 137 00:07:05,668 --> 00:07:08,528 and things are going to take a turn for the worse 138 00:07:08,608 --> 00:07:11,148 quite soon after this. 139 00:07:11,221 --> 00:07:15,551 -On June the 18th, 1978, Dahmer's fantasy world 140 00:07:15,621 --> 00:07:18,481 collided with the real one when he pulled over to pick 141 00:07:18,554 --> 00:07:22,824 a 19-year-old hitchhiker called Steven Hicks. 142 00:07:22,894 --> 00:07:25,354 -Dahmer picked him up and invited him back 143 00:07:25,427 --> 00:07:26,837 to his house to have some drinks, 144 00:07:26,914 --> 00:07:29,554 and I guess maybe smoke some dope. 145 00:07:29,621 --> 00:07:32,821 -They were in the basement of his parents' home. 146 00:07:32,894 --> 00:07:34,354 They had had sex. 147 00:07:34,421 --> 00:07:37,831 And then Steven Hicks wanted to leave, 148 00:07:37,907 --> 00:07:42,857 and that was when Dahmer just wanted so badly to have company. 149 00:07:42,934 --> 00:07:45,694 Sounds like such a textbook psychological thing. 150 00:07:45,767 --> 00:07:48,957 You know, abandonment syndrome, but this was at the heart 151 00:07:49,034 --> 00:07:52,044 of what made him so needy for company. 152 00:07:52,114 --> 00:07:54,584 -And then when the guy said he wanted to leave, 153 00:07:54,521 --> 00:07:57,751 Dahmer clubbed him on the back of the head with a barbell 154 00:07:57,827 --> 00:07:59,827 and then strangled him. 155 00:07:59,907 --> 00:08:05,057 Then, ultimately, disposed of the body, removed all the flesh, 156 00:08:05,134 --> 00:08:08,124 and eventually dissolved it in acid 157 00:08:08,194 --> 00:08:11,924 and pulverized the bones with a sledgehammer. 158 00:08:11,994 --> 00:08:14,654 -This is a really, really brutal crime. 159 00:08:14,727 --> 00:08:16,887 And he disposes of the body parts 160 00:08:16,761 --> 00:08:18,341 in the woods behind his house, 161 00:08:18,414 --> 00:08:20,634 and that's already symbolic place for Jeffrey Dahmer 162 00:08:20,707 --> 00:08:24,027 'cause this is a place where he's dismembered animals before, 163 00:08:24,107 --> 00:08:27,937 where he's displayed mutilated dogs on tree trunks. 164 00:08:28,014 --> 00:08:30,834 So we're seeing that this place is special to him. 165 00:08:30,907 --> 00:08:34,527 -Dahmer had experienced taking the life of another human 166 00:08:34,601 --> 00:08:36,411 for the first time. 167 00:08:39,994 --> 00:08:41,314 -I think that the first murder 168 00:08:41,381 --> 00:08:43,891 is a real milestone for Jeffrey Dahmer. 169 00:08:43,961 --> 00:08:46,641 So he knows now that he's capable of this. 170 00:08:46,714 --> 00:08:49,314 He knows that he's capable of taking someone else's life, 171 00:08:49,387 --> 00:08:51,987 so it's not just a fantasy anymore. 172 00:08:52,067 --> 00:08:53,597 It's now a reality. 173 00:08:53,674 --> 00:08:55,914 He's gone from harming animals to harming people. 174 00:08:55,987 --> 00:08:57,837 And he's not gonna stop. 175 00:08:57,914 --> 00:09:01,694 -He's not desperate, but he becomes accustomed to it. 176 00:09:01,761 --> 00:09:05,741 He becomes ready to kill again, and just kill and kill 177 00:09:05,814 --> 00:09:09,134 and kill and kill until he gets caught. 178 00:09:09,207 --> 00:09:13,587 -But it wasn't until 13 years later in August 1991 179 00:09:13,667 --> 00:09:16,977 that Dahmer was finally apprehended after one 180 00:09:17,054 --> 00:09:20,914 of his potential victims escaped from his Milwaukee apartment. 181 00:09:20,987 --> 00:09:23,967 Once in custody Dahmer confessed to killing 182 00:09:24,041 --> 00:09:27,151 17 young men and boys. 183 00:09:27,227 --> 00:09:30,647 The man whose job it was to prosecute the relentless killer 184 00:09:30,727 --> 00:09:34,207 was Milwaukee District Attorney, Mike McCann. 185 00:09:34,287 --> 00:09:36,017 -The word evil doesn't come up very often. 186 00:09:36,094 --> 00:09:37,694 It just doesn't. Guilty. Not guilty. 187 00:09:37,767 --> 00:09:38,917 Did he do it? Didn't he do it? 188 00:09:38,994 --> 00:09:40,454 Culpability, yes. 189 00:09:40,521 --> 00:09:43,511 But not often evil because evil is almost a moral issue. 190 00:09:43,587 --> 00:09:45,057 That word came up with Dahmer. 191 00:09:45,134 --> 00:09:46,984 You couldn't help see what he did. 192 00:09:47,054 --> 00:09:49,604 Innocent people, strangers, 193 00:09:49,674 --> 00:09:51,314 to take for a couple of hours of sex 194 00:09:51,387 --> 00:09:53,867 to take a human being's life. 195 00:09:53,941 --> 00:09:54,931 That's so evil. 196 00:09:55,001 --> 00:09:56,601 So evil. 197 00:09:56,674 --> 00:09:59,854 -Dahmer's case made headlines across the world 198 00:09:59,521 --> 00:10:02,991 after the details of his grizzly confession were leaked. 199 00:10:03,061 --> 00:10:04,391 -A New York Times reporter 200 00:10:04,467 --> 00:10:06,837 compromised the integrity of a worker at our building 201 00:10:06,914 --> 00:10:08,494 and got a copy of the confession. 202 00:10:08,561 --> 00:10:10,841 It was a detailed 38-page confession. 203 00:10:10,914 --> 00:10:13,504 So the details of the gory things he had done, 204 00:10:13,574 --> 00:10:16,154 again, captured people's interest. 205 00:10:16,221 --> 00:10:20,391 So that's how it rapidly became a matter of intense interest. 206 00:10:20,461 --> 00:10:22,491 -The confession outlined the life 207 00:10:22,561 --> 00:10:25,041 of a deranged serial killer. 208 00:10:25,114 --> 00:10:30,264 After murdering Steven Hicks and desecrating his body in 1978, 209 00:10:30,334 --> 00:10:33,564 Dahmer didn't kill again for 9 years. 210 00:10:33,634 --> 00:10:36,614 After dropping out of Ohio State University 211 00:10:36,681 --> 00:10:38,801 after just one semester, 212 00:10:38,874 --> 00:10:41,494 he was spending most of his days drinking 213 00:10:41,568 --> 00:10:45,648 until his father urged him to enlist in the U.S. Army. 214 00:10:45,727 --> 00:10:48,847 -The alcohol continued as a theme when he joined the army, 215 00:10:48,927 --> 00:10:51,507 and he moved to Germany. 216 00:10:51,581 --> 00:10:53,791 One of his former colleagues remembers him 217 00:10:53,867 --> 00:10:56,577 just sitting in his room drinking gin all day long, 218 00:10:56,654 --> 00:10:58,834 not even leaving his room to eat. 219 00:10:58,901 --> 00:11:02,691 So there was a real dependency on alcohol. 220 00:11:02,761 --> 00:11:06,141 -In 1981, 21-year-old Dahmer 221 00:11:06,214 --> 00:11:09,064 was discharged from the army after his drinking 222 00:11:09,134 --> 00:11:12,074 rendered him incapable of serving. 223 00:11:12,141 --> 00:11:15,791 After spending a month sleeping rough on the beaches of Florida, 224 00:11:15,867 --> 00:11:18,197 he returned to Ohio. 225 00:11:18,274 --> 00:11:20,904 But his father had had enough and shipped him off 226 00:11:20,841 --> 00:11:24,891 to start a new life in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 227 00:11:24,961 --> 00:11:26,341 -He was sent to live with his grandmother, 228 00:11:26,414 --> 00:11:28,904 who is the one adult apparently he had, 229 00:11:28,841 --> 00:11:32,761 you know, something approaching a normal affection for. 230 00:11:32,834 --> 00:11:37,274 It was there he really embarked on this career of horror. 231 00:11:37,347 --> 00:11:41,627 -By 1986 Dahmer had been arrested a couple of times 232 00:11:41,707 --> 00:11:43,907 for exposing himself in public, 233 00:11:43,987 --> 00:11:46,867 once in front of a group of children. 234 00:11:46,947 --> 00:11:50,067 The hopeless alcoholic had managed to find work 235 00:11:50,147 --> 00:11:53,207 at a local chocolate factory in Milwaukee 236 00:11:53,281 --> 00:11:56,791 and was frequenting gay bars and bathhouses. 237 00:11:56,867 --> 00:12:00,167 -I think being homosexual affected Dahmer in two ways. 238 00:12:00,247 --> 00:12:02,817 Firstly, it was a source of shame for him 239 00:12:02,894 --> 00:12:05,624 because it was quite a stigmatized social identity 240 00:12:05,361 --> 00:12:06,661 at the time. 241 00:12:06,734 --> 00:12:09,654 But also it enabled him an opportunity 242 00:12:09,727 --> 00:12:12,277 when it came to his killing behavior. 243 00:12:12,354 --> 00:12:14,774 So being homosexual at this time, 244 00:12:14,681 --> 00:12:16,431 it was something that happened in the shadows. 245 00:12:16,501 --> 00:12:18,051 It was something that happened underground, 246 00:12:18,127 --> 00:12:21,867 and this was the ideal place for someone like him to go hunting. 247 00:12:21,947 --> 00:12:24,317 -It was this exposure to the gay scene 248 00:12:24,394 --> 00:12:28,834 that seemed to reawaken the dark sexual urges inside of him. 249 00:12:28,907 --> 00:12:32,807 And by September 1987, over 9 years since 250 00:12:32,888 --> 00:12:34,728 the murder of Steven Hick, 251 00:12:34,241 --> 00:12:37,871 Jeffrey Dahmer was ready to kill again. 252 00:12:37,941 --> 00:12:41,951 -His idea was to drug people and keep them with him 253 00:12:42,021 --> 00:12:44,361 so that they wouldn't answer back to him, 254 00:12:44,434 --> 00:12:46,644 they wouldn't argue with him, they wouldn't fight him. 255 00:12:46,714 --> 00:12:47,994 They would stay with him. 256 00:12:48,067 --> 00:12:48,747 That's what he wanted. 257 00:12:48,827 --> 00:12:50,877 He wanted companionship. 258 00:12:50,954 --> 00:12:54,954 So, he would go to the bars on Milwaukee's near south side, 259 00:12:55,027 --> 00:12:57,827 and he would have conversations with people in these bars. 260 00:12:57,901 --> 00:12:59,981 And when he was talking to these people, 261 00:13:00,054 --> 00:13:03,434 these perspective victims, he would say, 262 00:13:03,507 --> 00:13:05,667 "So what was it like when you came out? 263 00:13:05,741 --> 00:13:07,631 How is your family about it?" 264 00:13:07,707 --> 00:13:10,747 So if your response was, "Oh, my family has been great. 265 00:13:10,827 --> 00:13:11,987 They're so supportive. 266 00:13:12,061 --> 00:13:14,351 I'm very close to my parents." 267 00:13:14,421 --> 00:13:16,391 That person wasn't gonna be a victim. 268 00:13:16,467 --> 00:13:18,777 But if the person answered, 269 00:13:18,854 --> 00:13:21,134 "My parents aren't speaking to me anymore. 270 00:13:21,207 --> 00:13:22,907 I'm estranged from my family. 271 00:13:22,981 --> 00:13:25,281 I'm kind of on my own now." 272 00:13:25,354 --> 00:13:28,074 That was the perfect victim for Jeffrey Dahmer 273 00:13:28,147 --> 00:13:32,587 because he wanted to choose people who wouldn't be missed. 274 00:13:32,667 --> 00:13:38,677 -Between September 1987 and March 1988, Dahmer killed 3 men. 275 00:13:38,754 --> 00:13:41,504 The youngest a 14-year-old boy 276 00:13:41,574 --> 00:13:43,754 who he paid to pose for nude photographs 277 00:13:43,827 --> 00:13:47,567 before drugging and strangling him to death. 278 00:13:47,641 --> 00:13:49,831 He would dissolve the bodies in acid. 279 00:13:49,907 --> 00:13:52,727 -He cleverly developed a program to destroy the bodies, 280 00:13:52,801 --> 00:13:54,491 get rid of the bodies, left no evidence. 281 00:13:54,561 --> 00:13:57,061 This was a very clever killer. 282 00:13:57,134 --> 00:13:58,974 Very clever killer. 283 00:13:58,968 --> 00:14:01,828 -Dahmer would dissolve his victims, 284 00:14:01,907 --> 00:14:04,757 presumably to make it easier to dispose of them. 285 00:14:04,834 --> 00:14:08,514 Dissolving tissue in chemicals can certainly interfere 286 00:14:08,581 --> 00:14:10,681 with identifying it as human tissue. 287 00:14:10,754 --> 00:14:12,484 It'll interfere with DNA. 288 00:14:12,554 --> 00:14:15,434 You're really left predominately with skeletal remains 289 00:14:15,507 --> 00:14:20,197 to try and identify features such as age, sex, race. 290 00:14:20,274 --> 00:14:22,444 -Dahmer murdered two of the victims 291 00:14:22,514 --> 00:14:25,014 at his grandmother's house where he was living. 292 00:14:25,087 --> 00:14:26,557 -His grandmother became aware 293 00:14:26,634 --> 00:14:30,424 that he was bringing these young guys back to her house. 294 00:14:30,494 --> 00:14:33,414 I mean, she thought for gay sex. 295 00:14:33,487 --> 00:14:37,017 Obviously, she had no inkling of the atrocities 296 00:14:37,094 --> 00:14:39,254 he was committing on their bodies, 297 00:14:39,327 --> 00:14:42,377 although she was complaining also about a foul odor 298 00:14:42,454 --> 00:14:43,394 that she noticed. 299 00:14:43,467 --> 00:14:47,787 -On September the 25th, 1988, Dahmer moved into 300 00:14:47,867 --> 00:14:51,857 his own apartment on North 25th Street in Milwaukee 301 00:14:51,861 --> 00:14:55,371 and didn't wait long before attacking again. 302 00:14:55,448 --> 00:14:57,878 The very next day, September the 26th, 303 00:14:57,954 --> 00:15:01,254 he enticed a 13-year-old boy back to his home 304 00:15:01,321 --> 00:15:02,831 and drugged him. 305 00:15:02,907 --> 00:15:06,777 -One of the methods that Dahmer used to subdue his victims 306 00:15:06,854 --> 00:15:08,734 was to use benzodiazepine. 307 00:15:08,801 --> 00:15:11,711 It's the same family of drugs as Valium. 308 00:15:11,781 --> 00:15:13,301 He put them in drinks. 309 00:15:13,374 --> 00:15:16,384 That would make you woozy, sleepy, 310 00:15:16,454 --> 00:15:18,914 and then eventually go unconscious. 311 00:15:18,987 --> 00:15:21,117 -Dahmer sexually assaulted the boy, 312 00:15:21,194 --> 00:15:25,494 but somehow, possibly due to Dahmer passing out drunk, 313 00:15:25,561 --> 00:15:29,781 the 13-year-old escaped and went to the police. 314 00:15:29,854 --> 00:15:34,384 In January 1989, he was convicted of sexual assault, 315 00:15:34,454 --> 00:15:37,144 but the sentencing was delayed until May, 316 00:15:37,214 --> 00:15:40,164 during which time an unrelenting Dahmer, 317 00:15:40,234 --> 00:15:45,834 unbeknownst to the authorities, managed to claim a fifth victim. 318 00:15:45,901 --> 00:15:48,921 The 29-year-old served 10 months in prison, 319 00:15:48,994 --> 00:15:52,094 but when he was released in March 1990, 320 00:15:52,161 --> 00:15:55,591 he picked up right where he left off. 321 00:15:55,667 --> 00:15:59,337 -So, Jeffrey Dahmer really did ramp up his offending. 322 00:15:59,414 --> 00:16:02,124 The scale and the nature of his behavior 323 00:16:02,194 --> 00:16:04,914 became all the more grotesque. 324 00:16:04,981 --> 00:16:07,941 So he wasn't just killing people, dismembering them, 325 00:16:08,014 --> 00:16:10,714 and then disposing of their bodies, 326 00:16:10,781 --> 00:16:13,381 he started to do some really bizarre things. 327 00:16:13,454 --> 00:16:16,674 -He was in the process of constructing 328 00:16:16,747 --> 00:16:23,467 some hideously diabolical shrine in his bedroom 329 00:16:23,547 --> 00:16:27,367 out of the skulls and skeletons of some of his victims. 330 00:16:27,447 --> 00:16:32,587 It's almost as though some bizarre archaic thing 331 00:16:32,667 --> 00:16:38,687 had broken through and he was performing or creating 332 00:16:38,761 --> 00:16:45,721 some sort of ancient human sacrificial temple 333 00:16:45,794 --> 00:16:49,404 in this little Milwaukee apartment. 334 00:16:49,474 --> 00:16:53,714 -In 1990, Dahmer killed another four young men. 335 00:16:53,787 --> 00:16:57,357 His M.O. was becoming more and more polished. 336 00:16:57,434 --> 00:17:00,264 -He would offer his victims money to go back 337 00:17:00,334 --> 00:17:01,944 to his apartment with him 338 00:17:02,014 --> 00:17:05,214 to take pictures, nude photographs of them. 339 00:17:05,081 --> 00:17:08,481 And then perhaps to have sex. 340 00:17:08,554 --> 00:17:12,744 Every single one of his victims went with him willingly. 341 00:17:12,814 --> 00:17:14,044 He would offer them a drink, 342 00:17:14,114 --> 00:17:17,454 and once he found out what they wanted to drink, 343 00:17:17,321 --> 00:17:21,191 he kept a lot of things on hand, different kinds of alcohol, 344 00:17:21,267 --> 00:17:23,787 and that's when he would put a drug in it 345 00:17:23,867 --> 00:17:25,397 that would put them to sleep 346 00:17:25,474 --> 00:17:27,794 or that would relax them so that they would pass out. 347 00:17:27,861 --> 00:17:29,471 -They would pass out. 348 00:17:29,547 --> 00:17:31,147 He would then have sex with them while they were passed out. 349 00:17:31,227 --> 00:17:32,587 Do with them as he wished, 350 00:17:32,667 --> 00:17:34,577 but of course, they couldn't do to him. 351 00:17:34,654 --> 00:17:36,274 Then as they approached recovery, coming out of it, 352 00:17:36,347 --> 00:17:37,937 he would strangle them to death. 353 00:17:38,014 --> 00:17:41,864 -It seemed as though Dahmer got a thrill, not from the murder 354 00:17:41,801 --> 00:17:44,371 but from the dead bodies of his victims. 355 00:17:44,448 --> 00:17:46,748 -Dahmer liked necrophilia. 356 00:17:46,821 --> 00:17:48,861 He liked sex with unconscious people. 357 00:17:48,601 --> 00:17:52,451 He wasn't a slasher in the sense that he took delight in killing. 358 00:17:52,521 --> 00:17:54,791 His purpose was sex with these people, 359 00:17:54,561 --> 00:17:55,901 company with these people. 360 00:17:55,974 --> 00:17:57,534 That's hard to believe. 361 00:17:57,401 --> 00:18:02,311 -He would commit necrophiliac sex acts on the corpses, 362 00:18:02,381 --> 00:18:05,311 dismember the corpses, dissolve parts of the bodies 363 00:18:05,081 --> 00:18:07,191 in these vats of acid he had, 364 00:18:07,267 --> 00:18:09,507 keep certain organs in his refrigerator, 365 00:18:09,587 --> 00:18:13,467 some of which he would actually cannibalize. 366 00:18:13,541 --> 00:18:16,231 -Dahmer said that the cannibalism that he engaged in 367 00:18:16,307 --> 00:18:19,787 was born out of a curiosity. 368 00:18:19,867 --> 00:18:23,537 He wanted to find out, first of all, what that would be like. 369 00:18:23,614 --> 00:18:26,904 He also said that there was an element of wanting 370 00:18:26,974 --> 00:18:29,594 to make these people a part of him 371 00:18:29,661 --> 00:18:31,871 so they would be with him forever. 372 00:18:31,941 --> 00:18:35,821 -Dahmer, from the beginning, is driven 373 00:18:35,761 --> 00:18:39,631 by this terror of being alone. 374 00:18:39,441 --> 00:18:42,371 He killed his first victim, Steven Hicks when Hicks 375 00:18:42,441 --> 00:18:45,291 said he had to go and Dahmer didn't want to be alone. 376 00:18:45,367 --> 00:18:48,907 There's some desire, which is part of normal sexuality. 377 00:18:48,987 --> 00:18:50,787 You know you love somebody... 378 00:18:50,861 --> 00:18:53,551 Somebody will say, "I love you so much I want to eat you up." 379 00:18:53,627 --> 00:18:57,717 With normal people, that's, obviously, metaphorical. 380 00:18:57,794 --> 00:19:02,414 But it does express some desire to be so close to the person 381 00:19:02,487 --> 00:19:04,037 that you want to incorporate them into, 382 00:19:04,114 --> 00:19:06,294 you want to merge with them. 383 00:19:06,367 --> 00:19:08,107 With somebody like Dahmer that becomes 384 00:19:08,187 --> 00:19:10,627 this very literal horror. 385 00:19:10,701 --> 00:19:13,811 -And the horror only became worse when Dahmer 386 00:19:13,888 --> 00:19:18,108 began experimenting with his semi-conscious victims. 387 00:19:18,181 --> 00:19:20,281 -He would drill holes in their skulls 388 00:19:20,354 --> 00:19:23,154 and put muriatic acid inside to see 389 00:19:23,221 --> 00:19:27,181 if he could get them to a zombie state 390 00:19:27,254 --> 00:19:31,724 so that he could keep them alive and subservient to him. 391 00:19:31,794 --> 00:19:35,514 -It's essentially an amateur version 392 00:19:35,321 --> 00:19:38,951 of attempting to perform a lobectomy or a lobotomy, 393 00:19:39,021 --> 00:19:40,601 but it would be an incredibly unpleasant 394 00:19:40,674 --> 00:19:43,324 and damaging thing to do to someone's brain. 395 00:19:43,394 --> 00:19:47,274 If you affect the frontal lobes, you will affect personality, 396 00:19:47,341 --> 00:19:49,631 potentially make somebody docile. 397 00:19:49,707 --> 00:19:53,037 If he's less accurate, you could essentially cause a stroke 398 00:19:53,114 --> 00:19:55,854 that could cause paralysis, speech problems. 399 00:19:55,928 --> 00:19:59,048 It really very much depends on which part of the brain 400 00:19:58,921 --> 00:20:01,091 is actually damaged. 401 00:20:00,761 --> 00:20:02,361 -But, of course, that didn't work, 402 00:20:02,434 --> 00:20:06,194 and his victims died one after another. 403 00:20:06,261 --> 00:20:12,391 Hearing about that is the stuff of horror movies, 404 00:20:12,461 --> 00:20:15,581 and the fact that it was happening in a city 405 00:20:15,654 --> 00:20:20,514 where we were known for manufacturing and beer 406 00:20:20,587 --> 00:20:24,347 and a very good Midwestern work ethic, 407 00:20:24,421 --> 00:20:29,301 tight families, this isn't the kind of thing that happens here. 408 00:20:29,374 --> 00:20:33,714 -In May 1991, 31-year-old Jeffrey Dahmer 409 00:20:33,781 --> 00:20:35,951 was in his killing prime. 410 00:20:36,021 --> 00:20:39,731 He'd already murdered 11 men and had begun collecting 411 00:20:39,807 --> 00:20:41,997 bones and skulls from his victims 412 00:20:42,074 --> 00:20:45,124 and cannibalizing their organs. 413 00:20:45,194 --> 00:20:49,314 What would've been a nightmare for most was a fantasy for him, 414 00:20:49,381 --> 00:20:51,641 and he carefully went about his killings 415 00:20:51,714 --> 00:20:56,514 under the radar of the police and the people of Milwaukee. 416 00:20:56,581 --> 00:20:59,291 -Jeffrey Dahmer had a job in a local chocolate factory. 417 00:20:59,367 --> 00:21:01,027 And I think for him it enabled him 418 00:21:01,107 --> 00:21:03,867 to maintain a façade of normality. 419 00:21:03,941 --> 00:21:05,291 He was just an average Joe, 420 00:21:05,367 --> 00:21:08,227 a regular guy who went to work every day. 421 00:21:08,041 --> 00:21:11,651 -I think he killed so many people without being caught 422 00:21:11,727 --> 00:21:14,327 because of the fact that he looked like everyone else. 423 00:21:14,407 --> 00:21:17,567 He did what successful serial killers do. 424 00:21:17,481 --> 00:21:18,561 He blended. 425 00:21:18,634 --> 00:21:21,034 They blend in with society. 426 00:21:21,101 --> 00:21:22,611 Now he was a Caucasian male 427 00:21:22,687 --> 00:21:26,817 living in a predominantly African-American neighborhood, 428 00:21:26,894 --> 00:21:30,094 but he didn't talk to anybody, bother anybody. 429 00:21:30,161 --> 00:21:33,371 He was barely someone people noticed. 430 00:21:33,241 --> 00:21:35,481 Barely noticed. 431 00:21:35,554 --> 00:21:40,764 He also was targeting people who he found out 432 00:21:40,834 --> 00:21:42,494 might not be missed. 433 00:21:42,567 --> 00:21:44,847 -For most people, if they were to commit 434 00:21:44,921 --> 00:21:46,771 the type of acts that Jeffrey Dahmer did, 435 00:21:46,841 --> 00:21:49,311 they would no way be able to function normally, 436 00:21:49,381 --> 00:21:51,961 but Jeffrey Dahmer was not most people. 437 00:21:52,034 --> 00:21:56,074 He hasn't got the same level of repulsion and shock 438 00:21:56,147 --> 00:21:59,667 at dead bodies or mutilated bodies that most of us have. 439 00:21:59,747 --> 00:22:02,027 It was just another aspect of his life. 440 00:22:02,107 --> 00:22:05,377 -It was not known that we had a serial slayer loose in our city. 441 00:22:05,454 --> 00:22:07,354 We did not know because he was so cleverly 442 00:22:07,421 --> 00:22:08,681 disposing of the bodies. 443 00:22:08,754 --> 00:22:11,384 The families were reporting the sons were missing, 444 00:22:11,454 --> 00:22:12,794 but the police were not finding bodies. 445 00:22:12,867 --> 00:22:15,577 And not infrequently young men something happens in their life, 446 00:22:15,654 --> 00:22:17,354 they just up and leave town. 447 00:22:17,427 --> 00:22:19,537 It happens enough that the police don't get worried. 448 00:22:19,614 --> 00:22:21,914 If it's a woman, they'll immediately commit resources 449 00:22:21,981 --> 00:22:24,161 to investigate, but a young man they don't. 450 00:22:24,234 --> 00:22:27,714 -But on May the 26th, 1991, 451 00:22:27,787 --> 00:22:30,947 Dahmer came agonizingly close to capture 452 00:22:31,027 --> 00:22:34,827 after an encounter with a 14-year-old boy. 453 00:22:34,908 --> 00:22:38,248 -Dahmer had taken Konerak Sinthasomphone, 454 00:22:38,321 --> 00:22:40,651 a young Asian male who he found attractive. 455 00:22:40,727 --> 00:22:42,097 He met him in the mall. 456 00:22:42,174 --> 00:22:45,414 Offered him money to go back to his apartment. 457 00:22:45,481 --> 00:22:49,681 He went, and he began to work the ritual. 458 00:22:49,754 --> 00:22:53,634 Dahmer would drug him, and then he began 459 00:22:53,707 --> 00:22:57,487 the process of this crude lobotomy, 460 00:22:57,561 --> 00:23:00,641 and he had drilled a hole in this young man's head. 461 00:23:00,714 --> 00:23:03,674 He took a break. He ran out to get more beer. 462 00:23:03,741 --> 00:23:07,441 While he was gone, Konerak ran out of the apartment. 463 00:23:07,514 --> 00:23:10,474 He was naked. He was completely dazed. 464 00:23:10,541 --> 00:23:12,391 And he's running up the alley 465 00:23:12,468 --> 00:23:13,948 next to Dahmer's apartment building. 466 00:23:14,027 --> 00:23:19,157 A woman in another apartment building saw him running up 467 00:23:19,234 --> 00:23:21,534 the alley and said, 468 00:23:21,601 --> 00:23:23,011 "There's a boy running up the alley. 469 00:23:23,087 --> 00:23:24,797 Something's going on." 470 00:23:24,874 --> 00:23:27,094 And then these women call the police. 471 00:23:27,161 --> 00:23:28,791 -And then Dahmer appeared. 472 00:23:28,867 --> 00:23:32,747 Again, this is another remarkable characteristic 473 00:23:32,821 --> 00:23:36,941 of these psychopaths was that they have an ability 474 00:23:37,014 --> 00:23:41,734 to maintain a kind of coolness 475 00:23:41,801 --> 00:23:46,961 under the most extraordinarily high-pressured circumstances. 476 00:23:47,034 --> 00:23:48,404 -So he walked up to the officers. 477 00:23:48,474 --> 00:23:50,944 "Good evening, officers." He's very polite. 478 00:23:51,014 --> 00:23:52,474 He's sober. 479 00:23:52,547 --> 00:23:55,267 And he said, "This is my boyfriend. 480 00:23:55,347 --> 00:23:57,227 He came to stay with me. 481 00:23:57,307 --> 00:23:58,307 We had a little bit too much to drink, 482 00:23:58,381 --> 00:24:00,911 and he ran out of the house." 483 00:24:00,721 --> 00:24:04,941 Said, "How old is he?" Dahmer said, "He's 19." 484 00:24:05,014 --> 00:24:09,474 And the officers said, "Okay, well, just to make sure 485 00:24:09,547 --> 00:24:12,707 let's all walk back up to the apartment together." 486 00:24:12,781 --> 00:24:14,281 -The cops went in and looked around. 487 00:24:14,354 --> 00:24:15,554 They even peeked into the bedroom 488 00:24:15,627 --> 00:24:17,117 where there was a decomposing corpse 489 00:24:17,194 --> 00:24:19,384 of one of Dahmer's previous victims, 490 00:24:19,454 --> 00:24:21,664 but they took such a cursory look at it 491 00:24:21,734 --> 00:24:24,084 that they didn't even notice it. 492 00:24:24,154 --> 00:24:26,874 -Assuming the couple were having a lover's tiff, 493 00:24:26,941 --> 00:24:28,401 the two police officers 494 00:24:28,474 --> 00:24:30,344 left Konarek alone with Dahmer 495 00:24:30,414 --> 00:24:32,354 in the apartment building. 496 00:24:32,421 --> 00:24:34,411 And in the early hours of the morning, 497 00:24:34,481 --> 00:24:37,051 he murdered the 14-year-old boy. 498 00:24:37,121 --> 00:24:40,381 An opportunity to catch the killer had been missed. 499 00:24:40,454 --> 00:24:42,034 -I think that really speaks volumes 500 00:24:42,107 --> 00:24:44,037 about the attitudes of the police 501 00:24:44,114 --> 00:24:46,564 at the time in terms of ethnic minorities, 502 00:24:46,634 --> 00:24:49,914 in terms of young people, in terms of the gay community. 503 00:24:49,981 --> 00:24:51,791 And that was another victim 504 00:24:51,861 --> 00:24:55,041 that could potentially have been saved. 505 00:24:55,114 --> 00:24:59,094 So there's this terrible thing going on behind closed doors, 506 00:24:59,161 --> 00:25:00,281 and people just aren't seeing it. 507 00:25:00,121 --> 00:25:02,071 People aren't wanting to see it. 508 00:25:02,147 --> 00:25:05,157 Even the police are not joining up the dots 509 00:25:05,234 --> 00:25:06,944 and finding out what's really going on, 510 00:25:07,014 --> 00:25:11,054 so this is allowed to just bubble away and get worse. 511 00:25:11,047 --> 00:25:15,357 -After evading capture, Dahmer was free to continue. 512 00:25:15,434 --> 00:25:17,924 -There was two sides really to Dahmer's pleasure 513 00:25:17,994 --> 00:25:19,864 that he got from killing his victims. 514 00:25:19,934 --> 00:25:22,624 So he was a sadist who enjoys the pain 515 00:25:22,694 --> 00:25:24,614 and suffering of other people. 516 00:25:24,687 --> 00:25:28,357 And with sadist that thrill ends when the victim dies. 517 00:25:28,434 --> 00:25:30,794 But Dahmer was also something of a necrophiliac 518 00:25:30,867 --> 00:25:34,377 who as interested in having corpses around 519 00:25:34,454 --> 00:25:36,474 and doing things with those corpses. 520 00:25:36,541 --> 00:25:38,871 And that means that the thrill starts with death. 521 00:25:38,941 --> 00:25:42,091 So he has this continuous fulfillment going on. 522 00:25:42,168 --> 00:25:44,188 And he's always fully in control, 523 00:25:43,761 --> 00:25:46,691 and I think that's what's really at the root of Jeffrey Dahmer. 524 00:25:46,761 --> 00:25:49,191 It's power, and it's control, and it's the feeling 525 00:25:49,267 --> 00:25:51,897 that he has all this knowledge about what he's done 526 00:25:51,841 --> 00:25:55,251 and nobody else quite knows what he's up to. 527 00:25:55,321 --> 00:26:01,451 -By July 1991, Dahmer's desire to kill had become insatiable. 528 00:26:01,521 --> 00:26:04,911 In just 16 days, he murdered four more men 529 00:26:04,721 --> 00:26:09,051 bringing his total number of victims to 17. 530 00:26:09,127 --> 00:26:12,697 But Dahmer's reign of terror was about to come to an end. 531 00:26:12,701 --> 00:26:17,231 On July the 22nd, he met a man called Tracy Edwards. 532 00:26:17,307 --> 00:26:20,707 -While they were together in the apartment, 533 00:26:20,787 --> 00:26:23,377 Dahmer threw a handcuff on him. 534 00:26:23,454 --> 00:26:26,214 This was now the beginning of his ritual. 535 00:26:26,287 --> 00:26:28,497 Dahmer had taken photographs of his victims 536 00:26:28,574 --> 00:26:30,194 in various stages of dismemberment. 537 00:26:30,267 --> 00:26:31,627 Polaroids. 538 00:26:31,707 --> 00:26:34,737 And those were sitting on the dresser inside the bedroom. 539 00:26:34,814 --> 00:26:38,134 They weren't sitting out in the main living room, 540 00:26:38,201 --> 00:26:39,561 but there was some speculation 541 00:26:39,634 --> 00:26:42,514 that Tracy Edwards had perhaps seen that. 542 00:26:42,581 --> 00:26:46,791 And he ran out of the apartment in his underwear. 543 00:26:46,867 --> 00:26:48,517 Ran down the street. 544 00:26:48,594 --> 00:26:51,234 And when he saw the police car, 545 00:26:51,307 --> 00:26:53,407 Tracy Edwards has said his intention 546 00:26:53,488 --> 00:26:55,078 was just to get the handcuff off. 547 00:26:55,154 --> 00:26:56,514 That's all he wanted. 548 00:26:56,587 --> 00:26:57,617 He stopped these cops to say, 549 00:26:57,694 --> 00:26:59,594 "Hey, can you just get this off of me?" 550 00:26:59,661 --> 00:27:03,231 So he stopped, and the officers start talking to him 551 00:27:03,307 --> 00:27:04,787 about what he saw. 552 00:27:04,867 --> 00:27:07,957 And then they said, "Well, we should probably check this out. 553 00:27:08,034 --> 00:27:10,944 Let's all go back to the apartment." 554 00:27:11,014 --> 00:27:13,944 Dahmer answered, and the minute he saw 555 00:27:14,014 --> 00:27:16,404 that it was the police he tried to shut the door on them. 556 00:27:16,474 --> 00:27:18,434 The police pushed the door open a bit. 557 00:27:18,507 --> 00:27:20,267 They started struggling with him, 558 00:27:20,341 --> 00:27:24,781 and then finally he just gave in. 559 00:27:24,854 --> 00:27:28,544 And that was when Dahmer was officially finished. 560 00:27:28,614 --> 00:27:32,614 He was finished killing, and he knew that he was finished. 561 00:27:32,688 --> 00:27:35,458 -The police officers immediately arrested Dahmer 562 00:27:35,534 --> 00:27:38,044 after finding the remains of some of his victims 563 00:27:38,114 --> 00:27:39,714 in his apartment. 564 00:27:39,787 --> 00:27:41,587 -They saw the body parts and then one of the officers 565 00:27:41,667 --> 00:27:43,087 said he heard a scream. 566 00:27:43,161 --> 00:27:44,211 Then he realized later he was the one who screamed 567 00:27:44,287 --> 00:27:45,627 when he saw the body, 568 00:27:45,707 --> 00:27:47,977 so they knew they were dealing with a very serious offense. 569 00:27:48,054 --> 00:27:49,654 Dahmer did not resist. 570 00:27:49,521 --> 00:27:51,631 A little slight resistance, but Dahmer was taken into custody, 571 00:27:51,707 --> 00:27:53,477 and the investigation was initiated. 572 00:27:53,554 --> 00:27:56,494 -What followed was an incredible media circus 573 00:27:56,561 --> 00:27:59,361 on Dahmer's doorstep as unbelievable stories 574 00:27:59,434 --> 00:28:01,514 about what was being uncovered inside 575 00:28:01,587 --> 00:28:04,077 his apartment were revealed. 576 00:28:04,154 --> 00:28:09,394 -It was so fantastical that you think people are making it up 577 00:28:09,161 --> 00:28:11,371 when they're telling you the details. 578 00:28:11,441 --> 00:28:14,501 But as it turned out, they weren't making it up. 579 00:28:14,574 --> 00:28:16,764 All of the atrocities that we heard about 580 00:28:16,834 --> 00:28:19,234 that had happened in that apartment really did happen. 581 00:28:19,307 --> 00:28:21,937 -The medical examiner who was called to the scene 582 00:28:21,881 --> 00:28:23,281 didn't know what was happening. 583 00:28:23,121 --> 00:28:24,571 It was so strange. There was a freezer there. 584 00:28:24,648 --> 00:28:26,028 Body parts in the freezer. 585 00:28:25,841 --> 00:28:28,061 Called in a Hazmat crew. 586 00:28:28,134 --> 00:28:30,564 Well, our television stations cover the police radio. 587 00:28:30,634 --> 00:28:32,954 When they hear that, they dispatch crews there. 588 00:28:33,021 --> 00:28:34,491 And the first day it was local television. 589 00:28:34,568 --> 00:28:36,658 Second day, national television. 590 00:28:36,734 --> 00:28:38,574 By the third day, it was international television. 591 00:28:38,647 --> 00:28:43,347 -They were able to show video of these items 592 00:28:43,427 --> 00:28:46,077 coming out of the front door of this apartment building. 593 00:28:46,154 --> 00:28:48,164 That's not usual at a crime scene. 594 00:28:48,234 --> 00:28:50,854 We saw a large blue barrel in which we know 595 00:28:50,927 --> 00:28:54,127 that Jeffrey Dahmer was trying to dissolve body parts. 596 00:28:54,207 --> 00:28:57,907 It had a refrigerator that was holding skulls 597 00:28:57,987 --> 00:29:01,087 and also it was holding body parts. 598 00:29:01,161 --> 00:29:03,431 So these are coming down the stairs, 599 00:29:03,507 --> 00:29:07,197 and people were just incredulous to watch it. 600 00:29:07,274 --> 00:29:10,724 When I wrote the story for the Milwaukee Journal that morning, 601 00:29:10,794 --> 00:29:15,494 and it was released in the paper about 8:00, 602 00:29:15,561 --> 00:29:17,491 I think, in the morning. 603 00:29:17,561 --> 00:29:19,331 Normally, we were an afternoon paper, 604 00:29:19,401 --> 00:29:20,501 but we went out early with it 605 00:29:20,574 --> 00:29:23,074 because it was such an incredible story. 606 00:29:23,147 --> 00:29:26,407 -But no one quite knew the enormity of the crimes 607 00:29:26,487 --> 00:29:28,837 until Dahmer confessed to detectives 608 00:29:28,681 --> 00:29:30,271 at the local police station. 609 00:29:30,347 --> 00:29:32,987 -When I've spoken to the detectives 610 00:29:33,061 --> 00:29:35,471 that were working this case, 611 00:29:35,541 --> 00:29:39,271 they have said this was not a great whodunit. 612 00:29:39,347 --> 00:29:41,547 This would've been a whodunit if Jeffrey Dahmer 613 00:29:41,627 --> 00:29:44,247 hadn't confessed to everything. 614 00:29:44,321 --> 00:29:45,371 -When Dahmer was arrested there were already 615 00:29:45,447 --> 00:29:47,837 a number of bodies in his quarters. 616 00:29:47,914 --> 00:29:49,774 He gave full confessions to the police 617 00:29:49,841 --> 00:29:54,121 detailing his involvement in 16 separate slayings. 618 00:29:54,194 --> 00:29:56,834 Most of the time he did not know the name of the victims. 619 00:29:56,907 --> 00:29:59,697 -When Dahmer remembered a crime 620 00:29:59,774 --> 00:30:02,814 that he might not have shared with the detectives, 621 00:30:02,887 --> 00:30:04,207 he would have the jail call them 622 00:30:04,281 --> 00:30:05,591 whether it was the middle of the night 623 00:30:05,667 --> 00:30:08,127 or the middle of the day and say, 624 00:30:08,207 --> 00:30:10,887 "I remembered something else. Please, come over." 625 00:30:10,968 --> 00:30:12,628 Dahmer had said he wanted to make sure 626 00:30:12,707 --> 00:30:14,857 that he didn't forget anything 627 00:30:14,934 --> 00:30:17,224 because he wanted those families to have closure. 628 00:30:17,294 --> 00:30:20,054 I'm not sure about that. 629 00:30:20,127 --> 00:30:22,607 That may be giving Jeffrey Dahmer more credit 630 00:30:22,687 --> 00:30:25,287 than he is deserved, 631 00:30:25,361 --> 00:30:29,271 but he did claim to want to try and remember 632 00:30:29,348 --> 00:30:32,708 so that all of those families would have closure. 633 00:30:32,781 --> 00:30:34,631 -One of the interesting things about Dahmer 634 00:30:34,701 --> 00:30:38,401 that does differentiate him from other killers of his breed 635 00:30:38,474 --> 00:30:41,144 is that he did seem to be capable 636 00:30:41,214 --> 00:30:43,174 of a certain degree of remorse, 637 00:30:43,241 --> 00:30:47,501 and certainly recognized the extent of his depravity. 638 00:30:47,441 --> 00:30:50,131 -Although he confessed to killing 16 people 639 00:30:50,207 --> 00:30:52,247 in the state of Wisconsin, 640 00:30:52,321 --> 00:30:55,261 Dahmer was first charged with four counts of murder 641 00:30:55,334 --> 00:30:58,614 on the 25th of July, 1991, 642 00:30:58,687 --> 00:31:02,057 and a further 11 counts were added in August. 643 00:31:02,134 --> 00:31:05,294 The following month, investigators in Ohio 644 00:31:05,361 --> 00:31:08,871 found teeth and bone fragments belonging to Steven Hicks 645 00:31:08,947 --> 00:31:11,457 in the woods near Dahmer's family home. 646 00:31:11,534 --> 00:31:15,784 A preliminary hearing was set for January 1992. 647 00:31:15,854 --> 00:31:18,574 His legal team were going to argue that the killings 648 00:31:18,648 --> 00:31:20,648 were the work of a madman. 649 00:31:20,721 --> 00:31:22,131 -The issue wasn't going to be did he do it or not. 650 00:31:22,207 --> 00:31:25,037 The issue was going to be was he sane or insane when he did it. 651 00:31:25,114 --> 00:31:27,474 And his hope was that at least in even one of the cases 652 00:31:27,541 --> 00:31:29,801 he could induce the jury to believe that he was insane. 653 00:31:29,874 --> 00:31:31,484 Under those circumstances, 654 00:31:31,321 --> 00:31:33,061 he would be sentenced not to a prison 655 00:31:33,134 --> 00:31:34,754 but to a mental health facility. 656 00:31:34,821 --> 00:31:37,801 People would say to me, "Mike, this guy killed 16 people. 657 00:31:37,874 --> 00:31:41,074 He was drinking their blood, eating parts of their body. 658 00:31:41,147 --> 00:31:42,787 He must've been crazy." 659 00:31:42,868 --> 00:31:44,718 It sounds like he's crazy to say that, 660 00:31:44,794 --> 00:31:46,724 but that's not what the insanity rule is. 661 00:31:46,794 --> 00:31:48,784 -The city wanted justice. 662 00:31:48,854 --> 00:31:51,634 They wanted to see the man the press were calling 663 00:31:51,701 --> 00:31:54,971 The Milwaukee Cannibal locked away in prison 664 00:31:54,841 --> 00:31:58,221 for the horrific crimes he had committed. 665 00:31:58,161 --> 00:32:00,811 The trial of Jeffrey Dahmer 666 00:32:00,481 --> 00:32:02,441 would be one of the biggest in the history 667 00:32:02,514 --> 00:32:06,964 of not just Wisconsin but the entire U.S.A. 668 00:32:07,034 --> 00:32:10,714 -My reaction to it then was the same reaction 669 00:32:10,321 --> 00:32:12,281 I think that everybody who lived in 670 00:32:12,354 --> 00:32:16,574 Milwaukee had when they heard about the case. 671 00:32:16,648 --> 00:32:17,818 No, it can't be. 672 00:32:17,894 --> 00:32:19,164 This is Milwaukee. 673 00:32:19,234 --> 00:32:20,794 Those kinds of things don't happen here. 674 00:32:20,867 --> 00:32:22,377 This is the Midwest. 675 00:32:22,454 --> 00:32:26,574 This is a very nice place. 676 00:32:26,648 --> 00:32:29,888 -The trial of Jeffrey Dahmer began on 677 00:32:29,601 --> 00:32:31,991 the 30th of January, 1992. 678 00:32:32,061 --> 00:32:34,091 Anne had a front row seat. 679 00:32:34,167 --> 00:32:37,367 -The courtroom was an odd spectacle 680 00:32:37,448 --> 00:32:38,998 because Court TV 681 00:32:39,074 --> 00:32:43,354 was still new in the game back then. 682 00:32:43,427 --> 00:32:48,737 And the idea that you would come to court 683 00:32:48,814 --> 00:32:52,524 and you'd be on television was still kind of new to people. 684 00:32:52,594 --> 00:32:56,534 It was the kind of media attention to a trial 685 00:32:56,607 --> 00:33:01,547 that Milwaukee hadn't seen in a very, very long time if ever. 686 00:33:01,621 --> 00:33:04,491 I can remember so clearly the first time Jeffrey Dahmer's 687 00:33:04,567 --> 00:33:08,257 initial appearance in court when he walked in. 688 00:33:08,334 --> 00:33:10,834 I think the real fear that people had 689 00:33:10,907 --> 00:33:13,117 when they first saw Jeffrey Dahmer 690 00:33:13,194 --> 00:33:15,314 was that he looked like everybody else. 691 00:33:15,387 --> 00:33:19,067 He was a good-looking young man, 692 00:33:19,147 --> 00:33:23,127 and he is not the person that you would look at and say, 693 00:33:23,208 --> 00:33:24,598 "Stay away from that guy." 694 00:33:24,674 --> 00:33:28,774 -It would be up to Milwaukee D.A., Mike McCann, 695 00:33:28,847 --> 00:33:33,617 to prove that Dahmer was sane and responsible for his actions. 696 00:33:33,694 --> 00:33:34,834 -Guilty wasn't going to be an issue, 697 00:33:34,907 --> 00:33:37,057 but we wanted the jury to know enough about the facts 698 00:33:37,134 --> 00:33:38,834 and so did the defense to say, 699 00:33:38,901 --> 00:33:40,691 "All right, what really happened here?" How atrocious was it? 700 00:33:40,761 --> 00:33:43,151 How planned was it? How was he behaving? 701 00:33:43,221 --> 00:33:46,201 What skills were involved? He couldn't control himself. 702 00:33:46,274 --> 00:33:49,194 -It was a lot to take in 703 00:33:49,267 --> 00:33:52,307 because the testimony was so graphic. 704 00:33:52,381 --> 00:33:54,971 We all knew Mike McCann. 705 00:33:55,047 --> 00:33:58,127 He was a religious man. 706 00:33:58,207 --> 00:34:00,827 And we've seen him in court. 707 00:34:00,901 --> 00:34:03,691 He was this good attorney. 708 00:34:03,768 --> 00:34:05,708 But the kinds of things that he was reciting 709 00:34:05,787 --> 00:34:08,107 out of the criminal complaint 710 00:34:08,188 --> 00:34:10,778 and the confession were unheard of. 711 00:34:10,854 --> 00:34:13,214 These things were unheard of. 712 00:34:13,281 --> 00:34:16,341 And they happened right here in our city. 713 00:34:16,414 --> 00:34:17,604 -He did it quietly. 714 00:34:17,674 --> 00:34:18,914 He concealed the bodies. 715 00:34:18,981 --> 00:34:21,061 Cleverly concealed. Destroyed the bodies. 716 00:34:21,134 --> 00:34:22,954 Planned it well. Laid in the equipment. 717 00:34:23,027 --> 00:34:24,557 Got the drugs that he used. 718 00:34:24,401 --> 00:34:26,491 No one that he worked with thought he was insane. 719 00:34:26,567 --> 00:34:28,987 The way he conducted himself was in a way 720 00:34:29,067 --> 00:34:31,617 that it seemed that he was sane, 721 00:34:31,694 --> 00:34:33,794 and that's what we wanted to get across to the jury. 722 00:34:33,601 --> 00:34:35,101 -Mike employs the help 723 00:34:35,174 --> 00:34:38,654 of psychiatry expert Dr. Phillip Resnick. 724 00:34:38,721 --> 00:34:41,001 -The more bizarre the crimes, 725 00:34:41,074 --> 00:34:44,654 such as involving cannibalism, the more the lay public 726 00:34:44,721 --> 00:34:48,201 wants to think that guy had to be out of his mind. 727 00:34:48,274 --> 00:34:51,834 But in looking at it from the actual strict definition 728 00:34:51,901 --> 00:34:55,971 of insanity, generally, the diseases 729 00:34:56,041 --> 00:34:58,561 of paraphilias like necrophilia 730 00:34:58,634 --> 00:35:02,004 where someone has trouble controlling themselves 731 00:35:01,841 --> 00:35:05,151 are not viewed for the most part 732 00:35:05,227 --> 00:35:08,347 as diseases which qualify for insanity 733 00:35:08,427 --> 00:35:11,927 because of the social implications. 734 00:35:11,601 --> 00:35:15,061 One of the points that I made as a consultant is 735 00:35:15,134 --> 00:35:17,534 even if you have necrophilia, 736 00:35:17,607 --> 00:35:21,647 and even if you have trouble controlling your impulse, 737 00:35:21,721 --> 00:35:26,421 the majority of necrophiliacs will select a setting 738 00:35:26,494 --> 00:35:29,564 where they can accomplish this without homicide. 739 00:35:29,634 --> 00:35:33,904 So some become assistants in morgues 740 00:35:33,841 --> 00:35:37,451 or assistants in pathology labs 741 00:35:37,527 --> 00:35:39,987 where they may have access to dead victims. 742 00:35:40,061 --> 00:35:44,971 Others will actually dissenter bodies after they're buried 743 00:35:45,041 --> 00:35:48,211 so that one does not have to actually kill 744 00:35:48,281 --> 00:35:52,311 to exercise the necrophiliac impulse, 745 00:35:52,381 --> 00:35:53,841 and that's one of the reasons I felt 746 00:35:53,914 --> 00:35:55,764 that he didn't qualify for insanity. 747 00:35:55,834 --> 00:35:58,464 -The trial was essentially a debate 748 00:35:58,534 --> 00:36:00,564 between specialtist psychiatrists 749 00:36:00,634 --> 00:36:03,094 about the mental state of Dahmer 750 00:36:03,168 --> 00:36:06,948 who sat watching the whole thing play out over two weeks. 751 00:36:07,021 --> 00:36:09,051 -Dahmer was very calm in court. 752 00:36:09,127 --> 00:36:11,707 When you talk are you assessing a person by what you see? 753 00:36:11,781 --> 00:36:14,801 No one studying him would believe he was insane. 754 00:36:14,874 --> 00:36:16,744 He was watching what was going on. 755 00:36:16,814 --> 00:36:19,394 He wasn't reacting in any negative way. 756 00:36:19,461 --> 00:36:23,681 He conducted himself in a very rational way, a very proper way. 757 00:36:23,754 --> 00:36:26,624 -This was a case to tell the world 758 00:36:26,694 --> 00:36:29,094 that I did what I did not for reasons of hate. 759 00:36:29,161 --> 00:36:30,931 I hated no one. 760 00:36:31,008 --> 00:36:34,178 I knew I was sick or evil or both. 761 00:36:34,254 --> 00:36:35,904 Now I believe I was sick. 762 00:36:35,441 --> 00:36:38,751 -On February 15th, the jury had reached a verdict 763 00:36:38,821 --> 00:36:40,711 on Dahmer's sanity. 764 00:36:40,781 --> 00:36:43,541 -Someone like Dahmer comes along who has never been 765 00:36:43,614 --> 00:36:47,834 in a psychiatric hospital and alleges insanity. 766 00:36:47,907 --> 00:36:50,717 Juries are gonna be skeptical of it. 767 00:36:50,794 --> 00:36:54,874 And then when it's all in the form of a sexual drive 768 00:36:54,947 --> 00:36:57,947 rather than a traditional psychosis 769 00:36:57,761 --> 00:37:00,651 where someone's out of touch with reality, 770 00:37:00,728 --> 00:37:03,488 and he's taken careful steps to cover his tracks, 771 00:37:03,561 --> 00:37:06,181 it's very difficult to succeed with insanity 772 00:37:06,254 --> 00:37:08,514 with that type of case. 773 00:37:08,581 --> 00:37:11,631 -Jeffrey Dahmer was ruled to be sane by the jury. 774 00:37:11,707 --> 00:37:15,547 On February 17, 1992, Judge Lawrence Gram 775 00:37:15,627 --> 00:37:17,787 sentenced him to life imprisonment 776 00:37:17,867 --> 00:37:20,317 for each of the 15 counts against him. 777 00:37:20,394 --> 00:37:22,954 -When the verdict was announced in court, 778 00:37:23,021 --> 00:37:27,591 there was a great shout from the gallery, 779 00:37:27,661 --> 00:37:28,951 especially from the victims' families. 780 00:37:28,761 --> 00:37:30,351 They cried. 781 00:37:30,427 --> 00:37:33,787 -I was pleased in the sense, happy, not exuberant, 782 00:37:33,868 --> 00:37:36,178 but happy that this danger was removed from our community, 783 00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:37,684 that the jury had not been hoodwinked, 784 00:37:37,754 --> 00:37:40,374 that the jury realized this chap was not insane. 785 00:37:40,441 --> 00:37:43,811 -The state of Wisconsin does not have the death penalty, 786 00:37:43,887 --> 00:37:48,307 but Dahmer would have to serve a minimum of 936 years. 787 00:37:48,381 --> 00:37:50,871 He was immediately sent to the Columbia Correctional 788 00:37:50,947 --> 00:37:53,387 Institute in Portage. 789 00:37:53,461 --> 00:37:57,751 Three months later, on the 1st of May, 1992 in Ohio, 790 00:37:57,361 --> 00:38:02,431 Dahmer was also found guilty of murdering Steven Hicks in 1978 791 00:38:02,501 --> 00:38:05,331 and given yet another life sentence. 792 00:38:05,407 --> 00:38:09,627 -Dahmer always said that he was compelled to kill. 793 00:38:09,707 --> 00:38:10,987 That they were urges. 794 00:38:11,061 --> 00:38:14,031 He said, "I had urges that I could not control." 795 00:38:14,107 --> 00:38:19,087 He also said that even though he was in prison, 796 00:38:19,167 --> 00:38:23,007 he was relieved that the killing was done. 797 00:38:23,087 --> 00:38:24,787 He still had the urges. 798 00:38:24,867 --> 00:38:27,457 They didn't go away. 799 00:38:27,534 --> 00:38:30,554 He was just in a place where he couldn't act on them. 800 00:38:30,621 --> 00:38:32,871 -Locked away for the rest of his life, 801 00:38:32,947 --> 00:38:35,637 Dahmer found comfort in the Bible. 802 00:38:35,281 --> 00:38:39,851 And by 1994, he decided to get baptized. 803 00:38:39,561 --> 00:38:43,411 The prison called on local minister Roy Ratcliff. 804 00:38:43,487 --> 00:38:45,217 -So I was quite surprised to be escorted 805 00:38:45,294 --> 00:38:48,164 to a little room and left alone, 806 00:38:48,234 --> 00:38:51,914 and then Jeff come to the room, and he closes the door. 807 00:38:51,721 --> 00:38:54,221 And then there's he and I sitting together 808 00:38:54,294 --> 00:38:56,964 across the table, and I'm thinking for a moment, 809 00:38:57,034 --> 00:38:59,964 "Wow, I'm in a room with a man who has killed several people." 810 00:39:00,034 --> 00:39:02,584 So, yeah that was a little bit disconcerting, 811 00:39:02,321 --> 00:39:04,831 but I was there for a purpose and for a reason, 812 00:39:04,907 --> 00:39:06,777 so I wanted to find out what was going on 813 00:39:06,854 --> 00:39:08,154 and to see what I could do to help. 814 00:39:08,227 --> 00:39:11,167 So my fears were set aside primarily 815 00:39:11,241 --> 00:39:13,891 because of my focus on what I was trying to do. 816 00:39:13,761 --> 00:39:15,191 Jeff was a normal guy. 817 00:39:15,261 --> 00:39:17,991 Courteous, very respectful to me. 818 00:39:18,067 --> 00:39:20,747 When we shook hands, I noticed his hands were really small. 819 00:39:20,821 --> 00:39:22,331 Looking at his hands and thinking, 820 00:39:22,408 --> 00:39:24,658 "Wow, these are the hands that strangled people. 821 00:39:24,734 --> 00:39:25,914 These are the hands that murder people. 822 00:39:25,981 --> 00:39:28,151 These are the hands that dismembered people." 823 00:39:28,227 --> 00:39:30,797 -On May the 10th, 1994, 824 00:39:30,874 --> 00:39:33,974 the same day that notorious serial killer 825 00:39:34,048 --> 00:39:36,638 John Wayne Gacy was executed, 826 00:39:36,641 --> 00:39:40,671 Jeffrey Dahmer was baptized in a prison bathtub. 827 00:39:40,747 --> 00:39:42,447 -Then the door opens, and I walk into the room, 828 00:39:42,527 --> 00:39:44,417 and Jeff had already crawled into the tub. 829 00:39:44,494 --> 00:39:46,304 And the only thing that was above the water 830 00:39:46,374 --> 00:39:47,774 was just simply his head. 831 00:39:47,847 --> 00:39:49,977 And so said, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son, 832 00:39:50,054 --> 00:39:52,084 and the Holy Spirit for the forgiveness of your sins," 833 00:39:52,154 --> 00:39:53,834 and pushed his head down under. 834 00:39:53,907 --> 00:39:56,057 And then when he came back up I said something I often say 835 00:39:56,134 --> 00:39:57,354 to people when I baptize them. 836 00:39:57,427 --> 00:40:00,027 I said, "Welcome to the family of God." 837 00:40:00,108 --> 00:40:01,308 He said, "Well, thank you very much." 838 00:40:01,381 --> 00:40:04,181 -But just six months after his baptism, 839 00:40:04,254 --> 00:40:07,434 on November the 28th, 1994, 840 00:40:07,507 --> 00:40:11,347 Dahmer and another convicted murderer, Jesse Anderson, 841 00:40:11,427 --> 00:40:15,267 were attacked and killed by a fellow inmate. 842 00:40:15,347 --> 00:40:18,197 -Christopher Scarver took a barbell, 843 00:40:18,274 --> 00:40:20,804 went into the bathroom, 844 00:40:20,874 --> 00:40:24,244 and beat both Jeffrey Dahmer and Jesse Anderson to death. 845 00:40:23,881 --> 00:40:26,411 There were a number of people 846 00:40:26,481 --> 00:40:29,421 who felt that Jeffrey Dahmer got exactly what he deserved. 847 00:40:29,494 --> 00:40:31,534 When I called his mother, she said, 848 00:40:31,608 --> 00:40:33,088 "Well, now everybody got what they want. 849 00:40:33,167 --> 00:40:35,787 The monster is dead." 850 00:40:35,861 --> 00:40:37,311 And then she said, "And he was my son. 851 00:40:37,387 --> 00:40:40,177 He was my boy." 852 00:40:40,254 --> 00:40:43,084 -It was a terrible, terrible death in that sense there. 853 00:40:43,154 --> 00:40:44,484 But for some people, it was a relief. 854 00:40:44,554 --> 00:40:45,924 They were glad because all they could think 855 00:40:45,761 --> 00:40:47,271 about are the crimes he committed. 856 00:40:47,341 --> 00:40:48,951 They're not thinking about where I'm thinking about 857 00:40:49,021 --> 00:40:52,271 is here's a person who is trying to serve God as best as he can 858 00:40:52,347 --> 00:40:54,947 and now his life has been taken from him. 859 00:40:55,021 --> 00:40:58,191 -I mean, some people see some sort of poetic symmetry 860 00:40:58,267 --> 00:41:01,897 in the fact that Dahmer's first murder 861 00:41:01,974 --> 00:41:04,654 was the one in which he bludgeoned 862 00:41:04,728 --> 00:41:05,858 the teenage hitchhiker, Steven Hicks, 863 00:41:05,934 --> 00:41:08,554 to death with a barbell, 864 00:41:08,621 --> 00:41:13,101 and that he himself died in a very, very similar way. 865 00:41:13,174 --> 00:41:15,944 -The apartment on North 25th Street 866 00:41:16,014 --> 00:41:19,504 that housed Dahmer's macabre collection of victims' remains, 867 00:41:19,574 --> 00:41:22,334 and where 12 young men lost their lives, 868 00:41:22,401 --> 00:41:26,421 was demolished in November 1992. 869 00:41:26,161 --> 00:41:30,671 But Dahmer's twisted legacy has been impossible to wipe out. 870 00:41:30,741 --> 00:41:34,221 He has become one of the most infamous serial killers 871 00:41:34,294 --> 00:41:35,944 in the world. 872 00:41:36,014 --> 00:41:37,894 -I think of Dahmer as sort of like the flip side 873 00:41:37,967 --> 00:41:40,227 of somebody like Mozart. 874 00:41:40,307 --> 00:41:43,587 How do you account for somebody creating that kind of music? 875 00:41:43,667 --> 00:41:46,347 Ultimately, how do you account for somebody 876 00:41:46,427 --> 00:41:49,367 who is luring young men to his apartment 877 00:41:49,447 --> 00:41:50,867 and drilling holes in their skull 878 00:41:50,947 --> 00:41:53,897 and injecting brains with muriatic acid 879 00:41:53,974 --> 00:41:55,364 to turn them into zombies? 880 00:41:55,434 --> 00:41:58,484 There's something there ultimately inexplicable. 881 00:41:58,321 --> 00:42:02,041 -Jeffrey Dahmer committed some of the most evil acts 882 00:42:02,114 --> 00:42:05,994 that I have ever written about or heard about 883 00:42:06,061 --> 00:42:09,711 or seen on a television show because they were real. 884 00:42:09,781 --> 00:42:14,181 I don't know if he was sane or insane 885 00:42:14,121 --> 00:42:17,071 because that's not my training to figure that out, 886 00:42:17,147 --> 00:42:19,757 but I can absolutely say 887 00:42:19,834 --> 00:42:26,074 that he did some of the most evil acts known to man. 888 00:42:26,147 --> 00:42:28,747 -Dahmer's crimes would not feel out of place 889 00:42:28,821 --> 00:42:30,851 in a perverse horror movie. 890 00:42:30,854 --> 00:42:33,044 He was a man who killed to satisfy 891 00:42:33,114 --> 00:42:35,594 his unhealthy sexual perversions. 892 00:42:35,667 --> 00:42:38,907 Keeping parts of his victims' skeletons and trophies 893 00:42:38,981 --> 00:42:41,021 and eating their organs. 894 00:42:41,094 --> 00:42:44,864 Jeffrey Dahmer truly is the stuff of nightmares, 895 00:42:44,934 --> 00:42:50,694 and unquestionably one of the world's most evil killers. 72885

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