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No-one is above the law.
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Guilty of sex trafficking...
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After six days of deliberation...
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On count one, we found her guilty.
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Ghislaine Maxwell
has been found guilty
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for her involvement
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in Jeffrey Epstein's
sex trafficking ring.
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Count three, we found her guilty.
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Count four, we found her guilty.
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Maxwell is guilty of one
of the worst crimes imaginable.
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Count five, we found her guilty.
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And count six,
we also found her guilty.
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Did Ms Maxwell instruct you
to pick up the young girls?
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It was the trial
that exposed the secret lives
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of the rich, the famous
and the powerful.
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Epstein's former pilot
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said that Bill Clinton,
Donald Trump,
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the actor Kevin Spacey
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and Prince Andrew, the Duke of York,
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flew aboard
the so-called Lolita Express.
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The verdict confirmed Maxwell
as a predator
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who cynically befriended young girls
to be abused
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by Jeffrey Epstein.
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She was going out
and hunting for the girls
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and sort of bringing them in.
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Ghislaine was essentially
the pimp or the madam.
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As Maxwell faces
up to 65 years in jail,
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I'll be examining
the details of the case.
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Ghislaine's famous little black book
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really makes
for fascinating reading.
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But the one
that really catches your attention,
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"Duke of York,
Buckingham Palace, London."
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I'm gonna give it a go.
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'I'm afraid I've not been quick
enough to get to the phone
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'before it went off
to take your message.'
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How did the privileged daughter
of newspaper tycoon
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Robert Maxwell...
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Happy New Year.
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..at home in high society
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and royal palaces...
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Ghislaine had it all.
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..become a paedophile's accomplice?
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She was the mistress of the house.
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Ghislaine said to me, make sure
you give Jeffrey what he wants,
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because Jeffrey
always gets what he wants.
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What exactly was her relationship
with Prince Andrew?
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One of my colleagues remembers her
entering and exiting
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the Palace four times in one day.
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I'll hear from those
closest to the story...
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The second I left the courtroom,
I lost it,
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I couldn't contain my tears.
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Ghost in this whole affair
is Jeffrey Epstein.
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It's just wrong.
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..most importantly, the survivors.
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This is what happens
in those situations.
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You're not gonna kick and scream
and fight and yell
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when you're on an island.
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Their stories lead me to reflect
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on why I'm so personally affected
by this case.
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This has brought up
something that happened to me
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when I was 12.
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For Prince Andrew,
more isolated every day,
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the nightmare may just be beginning.
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Prince Andrew has been sensationally
stripped of his military titles
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and royal patronages by the Queen.
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I was trafficked to Prince Andrew.
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Opening statements today in
the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell,
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the former girlfriend and friend
of Jeffrey Epstein.
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The British socialite
called to face charges
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that she helped procure
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and traffic under-aged girls
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as sex partners for her close friend
and former lover,
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the deceased billionaire,
sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
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..here in New York
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due to begin, we expect,
those opening statements.
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Ghislaine Maxwell's family name
and notoriety
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brings the world and its media
to a New York courtroom.
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This is a sordid tale
of vast wealth and vast privilege
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and an abuse of power
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with young, vulnerable women
as the victims.
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Maxwell was among
Epstein's closest associates
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and helped him exploit girls,
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who were as young as 14 years old.
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The alleged sex assaults happened
at Epstein's New York mansion,
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his New Mexico ranch,
his house in Palm Beach
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and Maxwell's home in London.
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Some of the women who suffered
at the hands of Maxwell and Epstein
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have come to court
to show solidarity
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with those giving evidence.
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It just takes you back to a time
in your life
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that was very confusing to me.
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It feels good that Ghislaine
is finally being held accountable.
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I wish it was Jeffrey, too.
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But she was part of it all.
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She was part of why his whole...
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you know, scheme worked.
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Inside the courtroom,
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Ghislaine Maxwell faces six counts
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of sex trafficking and conspiracy.
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It was an insane experience.
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Felt very surreal.
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I still feel like it's just a dream.
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It's crazy to have been a part
of such an historical trial.
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I had one of the best vantage points
from the jury booth.
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I could see all the prosecution.
I could see all of the defence.
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And Ghislaine was all the way over
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to the left side of the table,
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and it was like we would almost
lock eyes with each other.
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Four of Maxwell's many accusers
will be called to testify.
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Only one will do so
under her real name,
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Annie Farmer.
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Annie Farmer.
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So, she was the one that,
from the get-go,
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we were all able to jump on board
and believe as credible.
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The court is closed to cameras,
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but Annie's testimony
closely mirrors
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what she said when she spoke bravely
in this TV interview.
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When I first met Ghislaine,
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she was very charming.
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She was...
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witty and quick and
instantly engaging in conversation.
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I remember, I had, you know,
brought some homework with me
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that I needed to work on and so...
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I think I was actually doing a paper
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about some British writers,
and so I remember
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talking to Ghislaine about that.
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I felt quickly comfortable with her,
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and, as a young woman,
I looked up to her
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as maybe an older-sister type.
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Annie Farmer testifies
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that Maxwell tried to abuse her
when she was just 16,
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as she explained
in the same candid interview.
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I laid on the table,
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and I was very aware
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that the door was open,
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and I could be seen
getting a massage.
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And then, at some point,
she just takes the sheet down,
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so she, you know,
exposed my breasts.
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And I feel uncomfortable,
I feel like
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Epstein can probably
see me right now.
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And she touches me around my chest,
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but blurring the boundaries
of normal or not normal.
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This was
such a scary situation for me.
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So I just needed to like...
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just to manage that,
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and to go on
as if everything was normal.
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What was a little difficult for us
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to really shape our minds around
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was that there wasn't
significant sexual abuse.
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And the thing is,
it didn't have to happen.
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The intent had to be there.
And the intent was there.
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And we all agreed
that the intent was there.
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Another survivor,
known only as "Jane",
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but reportedly now a US soap star,
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details years of sexual abuse
at the hands of the couple.
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The woman who gave evidence as Jane
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is now 41 years old.
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But she was speaking
about the events of her life
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when she was 14,
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when she was first befriended
by Jeffrey Epstein
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and Ghislaine Maxwell.
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She went on to recount
multiple times
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that she was involved in sex acts,
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including both of the couple
and other people.
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She had just recently
lost her father,
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so they weren't in
a very good financial situation.
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So things were hard for them.
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And...
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Jeffrey and Ghislaine
used those sorts of situations
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to prey on their victims.
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And that leads into
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how they entice them
in order to keep them coming back.
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They pay them.
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They paid Jane
every time she was there.
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Can you describe
the grooming process
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and how Ghislaine was central to it?
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All of the women were recruited
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by a young female.
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They were not recruited directly
by Jeffrey Epstein.
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And we know now,
according to a lot of the victims,
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that Ghislaine
was right there in the middle.
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It was really a pyramid scheme
with Jeffrey Epstein at the top,
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then Ghislaine, and then
all of these younger girls
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who were recruiters.
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Ghislaine was essentially
the pimp or the madam,
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who brought girls and young women
to Jeffrey Epstein,
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who could then
sexually assault them.
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And, in addition,
many times she, herself,
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was involved
in the sexual assaults directly.
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You know, most young women
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may think twice about going off
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with an older man
who you don't know.
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But if it's a woman,
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you're going to be more trusting.
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And Ghislaine
took advantage of that.
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Ghislaine got me to the point
where I trusted her so much
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to where I then walked myself
to a predator's home.
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You know, where I was
at some point going to be abused.
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She seemed
like somebody they could trust.
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She could be funny. She seemed
to have a good time in life.
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And really, what she did, according
to all of these young women,
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she normalised
Jeffrey Epstein's behaviour.
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She really set the tone
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that enabled him
to be the predator that he was.
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I thought that she was
a really good person.
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You know,
she has this beautiful home.
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She's with the President.
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She has a butler. She has a driver.
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I mean, that was
a really solid impression on me
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that this woman is a good person.
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She comes
from a socialite background.
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She probably had
very highly developed
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and charming social skills.
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And women trusted her.
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People trusted her.
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Maxwell was born
into wealth and privilege,
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every inch
the billionaire's daughter.
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She fits in totally
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with the sort of posh,
socialite lifestyle
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of London, you know.
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Her friends are from Eton.
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Her friends are
from posh girls' schools.
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I mean, I think,
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the idea of being
at her father's table,
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why wouldn't you like sitting down
with presidents and kings?
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Irresistible.
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Ghislaine Maxwell has said
that she met Jeffrey Epstein
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in 1991.
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Jeffrey Epstein
was a very wealthy man.
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He started as a lowly
floor trader and assistant
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at Bear Stearns.
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He wasn't making any money,
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but somehow he was very good
with the rich and powerful men.
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He's an interesting character.
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We always used to call him J Gatsby.
The mysterious Great Gatsby.
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He came from a very poor background,
working-class background.
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He was a school teacher.
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And we still to this day don't know
how he made so much money.
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But he made a great deal of it.
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And so the two of them together
combining forces
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meant that he had access
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to the social world
that he very much wanted.
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And she got to live
this lavish lifestyle.
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In the '90s,
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Maxwell and Epstein
were the toast of New York
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and its celebrity party scene.
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They kept their contacts
in a little black book.
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If you were on the social scene
in the '90s
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and you were not
in that address book,
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then you didn't exist.
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I, erm, I think
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in the little black book
with my name misspelt.
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We were pretty good friends.
And I'd often go to parties
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and see her typically talking
to someone interesting or famous.
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Maxwell and Epstein
would also hold parties and dinners
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in his extravagantly furnished
mansion
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just off Manhattan's Fifth Avenue.
258
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When you ring the doorbell,
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the door opens
and there are immaculately coifed
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20-year-old girls.
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There would be copious
champagne and caviar,
262
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and Ghislaine would be busily
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making sure
everybody was comfortable,
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had drinks and entertaining.
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She was the mistress of the house.
266
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Jeffrey was really the front man,
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and Ghislaine was the accomplice.
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You know, it was kind of like
a Batman and Robin,
269
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and they were a double act.
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I don't think Jeffrey could have
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done any of it without Ghislaine.
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And Ghislaine was crucial
to getting those girls,
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was she, do you think,
to those dinners?
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I think he just kind of sat back
275
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and sort of waited for her
to sort of go fishing
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and go find however many girls
were needed, you know..
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to entertain his friends.
278
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I think
I was pretty much used as bait,
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you know, looking back at it.
280
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You know,
I was really young and naive,
281
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and, you know, she's entertaining
282
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these, you know, big businessmen.
283
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Erm, so...
284
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Yeah, I didn't realise it,
of course, at the time,
285
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but looking back,
anyone that was like my age,
286
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or a model.
287
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There was one evening
that Jeffrey called me a few times.
288
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He was like hounding me to meet,
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go meet with her, and...
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What was his name?
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She was with a rock star.
292
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What was his name?
I can't even remember his name now.
293
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With the big lips,
294
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kind of weird guy
with the stringy hair.
295
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What was his name? Mick Jagger.
296
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Jeffrey was really upset with me
because I didn't go.
297
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There is no suggestion
that Mick Jagger was involved in
298
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or aware of this request.
299
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Looking back at those parties,
300
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just a very, very odd air about it.
301
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Epstein wasn't having fun.
Didn't want to have fun.
302
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Was just collecting,
collecting something.
303
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It wasn't entirely clear what.
304
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So, yeah, it was pretty weird.
305
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I look back now and I wonder...
306
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did I miss any signals?
307
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Should I have known anything?
Could I have known anything?
308
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Obviously, you can't choose
whose address book you're in.
309
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And there's no suggestion
310
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that any of the people who were
in the book or attended parties
311
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were aware or involved
in Maxwell and Epstein's crimes.
312
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The names and numbers in here
are vast.
313
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It's not exactly
a "little" black book by any means.
314
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The one
that really catches your attention
315
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is the one up here.
316
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And this is for the Duke of York.
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Duke of York,
Buckingham Palace, London.
318
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His address, it says here,
319
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and then there are numbers
for Sunninghill,
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Wood Farm, his equerry, Balmoral.
321
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There's what looks like a mobile
phone number on here for him.
322
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I'm gonna give it a go.
323
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'I'm afraid I've not been
quick enough to get to the phone
324
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'before it went off
to take your message.
325
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'If you do have a message,
326
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'please leave it, and I'll get back
to you soon as I can.'
327
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'When you finish recording,
328
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'please hang up or press
the hash key for more options.'
329
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Hello.
I think this might be Prince Andrew.
330
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This is Ranvir Singh from ITV.
331
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And we found your number
on the little black book,
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and we'd like
to have a chat with you.
333
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If you could get back to us.
Thank you.
334
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I mean, that sounded
like Prince Andrew's voice.
335
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Prince Andrew's voice
on a voicemail?
336
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Explosive testimony
337
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at the Ghislaine Maxwell
sex trafficking trial.
338
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Jeffrey Epstein's personal pilot
says,
339
00:17:05,981 --> 00:17:08,981
under oath,
he flew former presidents,
340
00:17:08,981 --> 00:17:10,981
Hollywood stars and a prince
341
00:17:10,981 --> 00:17:13,981
on the convicted sex offender's
private jet.
342
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Larry Visoski,
the pilot of Epstein's
343
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private Boeing 727,
344
00:17:19,981 --> 00:17:23,501
has been called to give evidence
by the prosecution.
345
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Nicknamed the Lolita Express
346
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because of the number of young women
that were transported on it...
347
00:17:30,981 --> 00:17:33,981
Visoski also testified
Epstein introduced him
348
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to a young woman
as they once boarded,
349
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since identified as "Jane".
350
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They want to prove that one of
Epstein's victims was on the plane,
351
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and crucially, that Maxwell had
a role in transporting her
352
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to be sexually abused.
353
00:17:47,981 --> 00:17:49,981
Larry Visoski did say
that he met her
354
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on the private jet.
355
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And he said that Jeffrey Epstein
introduced him to her.
356
00:17:54,981 --> 00:17:57,981
So he definitely placed her
on the plane.
357
00:17:58,981 --> 00:18:01,981
David Rodgers,
another Epstein pilot,
358
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kept meticulous
personal flight logs,
359
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showing Maxwell and Epstein
360
00:18:06,981 --> 00:18:09,981
travelled on
hundreds of flights together.
361
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These pictures released
by the prosecution
362
00:18:13,341 --> 00:18:14,981
show Maxwell on the plane,
363
00:18:14,981 --> 00:18:18,981
massaging Epstein's feet
against her breasts.
364
00:18:20,981 --> 00:18:23,981
Sarah Ransome,
another Epstein survivor
365
00:18:23,981 --> 00:18:24,981
attending the trial,
366
00:18:24,981 --> 00:18:29,981
bravely gave an interview in 2019
detailing his disturbing behaviour.
367
00:18:31,981 --> 00:18:33,981
He started having full, erotic sex
368
00:18:33,981 --> 00:18:36,981
in front of the entire plane.
369
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I thought that I was the mad one
370
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because everyone else
found it completely normal.
371
00:18:44,981 --> 00:18:48,981
The logs make uncomfortable reading
for many A-listers.
372
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In particular,
President Bill Clinton,
373
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who flew on the plane
at least nine times.
374
00:18:55,981 --> 00:18:59,981
In 2010, Maxwell was a guest
at Chelsea Clinton's wedding.
375
00:18:59,981 --> 00:19:02,981
Clinton was definitely
very close to Jeffrey.
376
00:19:02,981 --> 00:19:04,981
I don't know
if you saw the paintings
377
00:19:04,981 --> 00:19:07,021
that were
in Jeffrey Epstein's house?
378
00:19:07,021 --> 00:19:10,981
One of them being a portrait
of Bill Clinton
379
00:19:10,981 --> 00:19:14,981
wearing the dress
that Monica Lewinsky wore
380
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when they had the affair.
381
00:19:17,981 --> 00:19:19,981
So, yeah, he was super close
to Jeffrey Epstein.
382
00:19:19,981 --> 00:19:23,981
They were like brothers,
you know, and...
383
00:19:23,981 --> 00:19:25,981
he was close to Ghislaine as well.
384
00:19:26,981 --> 00:19:28,981
In court, the pilots testified
385
00:19:28,981 --> 00:19:33,181
that they saw no sexual activity
on Epstein's planes.
386
00:19:33,181 --> 00:19:35,981
However, David Rodgers
has previously said
387
00:19:35,981 --> 00:19:38,981
that he saw a member
of the Royal Family on board.
388
00:19:38,981 --> 00:19:40,821
These are the flight logs
389
00:19:40,821 --> 00:19:42,981
that show that Prince Andrew
was on board
390
00:19:42,981 --> 00:19:44,661
at least three times.
391
00:19:44,661 --> 00:19:47,981
And, for example,
if you look at page 62,
392
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it shows here, 9th February 1999,
393
00:19:51,981 --> 00:19:54,981
you go across and you can see
JE, Jeffrey Epstein,
394
00:19:54,981 --> 00:19:57,341
GM, Ghislaine Maxwell,
395
00:19:57,341 --> 00:19:59,021
and in full words, Prince Andrew,
396
00:19:59,021 --> 00:20:01,181
plus his personal
protection officer.
397
00:20:01,181 --> 00:20:03,981
There is no suggestion
that Prince Andrew,
398
00:20:03,981 --> 00:20:07,981
Bill Clinton, or any passengers,
were aware of or involved
399
00:20:07,981 --> 00:20:09,981
in any of Maxwell
or Epstein's crimes.
400
00:20:09,981 --> 00:20:13,981
Bill Clinton denies
being close to Epstein.
401
00:20:13,981 --> 00:20:15,981
I want to get to the bottom
402
00:20:15,981 --> 00:20:19,981
of how well Prince Andrew and
Ghislaine Maxwell know each other,
403
00:20:19,981 --> 00:20:23,981
and how he became embroiled
in the scandal.
404
00:20:23,981 --> 00:20:25,981
They were good friends.
405
00:20:25,981 --> 00:20:28,981
I don't know how often
she may have got to see him
406
00:20:28,981 --> 00:20:30,981
at Buckingham Palace.
407
00:20:30,981 --> 00:20:33,661
I met him a few times in London.
408
00:20:33,661 --> 00:20:36,501
She didn't take
any shit from anyone,
409
00:20:36,501 --> 00:20:38,981
prince, pauper,
it made no difference.
410
00:20:38,981 --> 00:20:40,181
That was the way we were brought up.
411
00:20:40,181 --> 00:20:42,981
So I think that Prince Andrew
412
00:20:42,981 --> 00:20:44,981
would have found that
rather refreshing.
413
00:20:46,981 --> 00:20:49,981
Maxwell was a student
at Balliol College, Oxford,
414
00:20:49,981 --> 00:20:52,981
alongside Boris Johnson.
415
00:20:52,981 --> 00:20:56,981
It was in that social circle
that she met Prince Andrew.
416
00:20:56,981 --> 00:20:57,981
He really was a dashing prince.
417
00:20:57,981 --> 00:21:00,981
He was serving in the military.
418
00:21:00,981 --> 00:21:02,981
"Randy Andy", as he was known.
419
00:21:02,981 --> 00:21:03,981
No, thank you.
420
00:21:05,981 --> 00:21:09,981
When Andrew married Sarah Ferguson,
he put his bachelor days behind him.
421
00:21:12,981 --> 00:21:16,981
But by 1991,
the marriage had hit the rocks.
422
00:21:18,981 --> 00:21:23,981
In the same year, Maxwell's life
was also turned upside down.
423
00:21:23,981 --> 00:21:25,981
Good evening.
The publisher Mr Robert Maxwell,
424
00:21:25,981 --> 00:21:28,981
owner of the Daily Mirror,
died today off the Canary Islands.
425
00:21:28,981 --> 00:21:31,981
His body has been recovered
from the scene.
426
00:21:34,981 --> 00:21:36,981
Then it all started to tumble down,
427
00:21:36,981 --> 00:21:40,021
you know, that he'd stolen
400 million or 500 million
428
00:21:40,021 --> 00:21:41,981
of pension funds.
429
00:21:41,981 --> 00:21:46,181
It was very unseemly,
and it looked like he was a crook.
430
00:21:46,181 --> 00:21:49,981
This had to have
a big effect on Ghislaine.
431
00:21:53,021 --> 00:21:56,981
With Robert Maxwell dead,
the spotlight turned on the family
432
00:21:56,981 --> 00:22:00,981
as the police investigated fraud
at the Mirror Group.
433
00:22:00,981 --> 00:22:02,981
The early-morning arrest
of Kevin Maxwell...
434
00:22:10,981 --> 00:22:12,981
The shock of discovering
435
00:22:12,981 --> 00:22:14,981
that what they thought they had,
they didn't have.
436
00:22:14,981 --> 00:22:17,981
That what they thought
their father owned,
437
00:22:17,981 --> 00:22:19,981
he really didn't possibly own.
438
00:22:19,981 --> 00:22:22,021
That the money wasn't there
439
00:22:22,021 --> 00:22:24,981
in the way that they thought
the money was there.
440
00:22:24,981 --> 00:22:26,981
That there would be court cases,
441
00:22:26,981 --> 00:22:28,981
possible prison,
442
00:22:28,981 --> 00:22:30,341
all these things coming
443
00:22:30,341 --> 00:22:33,981
after the death
would have been quite horrendous.
444
00:22:35,981 --> 00:22:37,821
Eventually,
both Kevin and Ian Maxwell
445
00:22:37,821 --> 00:22:39,981
were acquitted of all charges.
446
00:22:39,981 --> 00:22:43,981
What Ghislaine had,
even if she had no money,
447
00:22:43,981 --> 00:22:46,021
or an income of substance...
448
00:22:47,981 --> 00:22:49,981
..she had contacts,
449
00:22:49,981 --> 00:22:52,981
but essentially, she was broke.
450
00:22:54,341 --> 00:22:58,981
Then, in 1999, according to
the Duke of York himself,
451
00:22:58,981 --> 00:23:02,981
Ghislaine Maxwell
introduced him to Epstein.
452
00:23:02,981 --> 00:23:05,981
And in July that year,
Epstein and Maxwell
453
00:23:05,981 --> 00:23:08,981
visited the Prince
at the Queen's Scottish family home,
454
00:23:08,981 --> 00:23:10,981
Balmoral.
455
00:23:10,981 --> 00:23:13,981
The pair are seen relaxing
in the Queen's own log cabin
456
00:23:13,981 --> 00:23:14,981
on the estate.
457
00:23:14,981 --> 00:23:17,981
In that moment,
I think it just really
458
00:23:17,981 --> 00:23:18,981
called into question
459
00:23:18,981 --> 00:23:22,981
the access that Epstein and Maxwell
had to Prince Andrew,
460
00:23:22,981 --> 00:23:25,981
and just really gave you
an incredible insight
461
00:23:25,981 --> 00:23:28,981
into the relationship
that those three people had.
462
00:23:31,981 --> 00:23:34,981
That relationship
also saw the Duke of York
463
00:23:34,981 --> 00:23:36,981
making trips across the Atlantic.
464
00:23:38,981 --> 00:23:40,981
Ghislaine invited me for dinner,
465
00:23:40,981 --> 00:23:44,341
saying,
"I'm throwing a dinner party
466
00:23:44,341 --> 00:23:47,981
"at Jeffrey's house
for my friend Prince Andrew."
467
00:23:47,981 --> 00:23:48,981
That was the way she described it.
468
00:23:48,981 --> 00:23:53,981
And she described Andrew
as being her friend, not Jeffrey's.
469
00:23:53,981 --> 00:23:55,981
I got the sense that Prince Andrew
470
00:23:55,981 --> 00:23:58,981
and Ghislaine had probably
been boyfriend and girlfriend
471
00:23:58,981 --> 00:23:59,981
in the past.
472
00:23:59,981 --> 00:24:02,981
They had an easy warmth
around each other.
473
00:24:02,981 --> 00:24:07,181
What do you think that Ghislaine
and Jeffrey Epstein wanted
474
00:24:07,181 --> 00:24:10,181
from having Prince Andrew
at these dinners?
475
00:24:10,181 --> 00:24:13,981
Prince Andrew was a son
of the Queen of England.
476
00:24:13,981 --> 00:24:15,981
Americans love that.
477
00:24:15,981 --> 00:24:19,821
You know, Jeffrey loved that,
Bill Clinton loved that.
478
00:24:19,821 --> 00:24:23,341
You said that powerful men
came to these dinners,
479
00:24:23,341 --> 00:24:26,501
and if women were there, would
Prince Andrew have enjoyed that?
480
00:24:26,501 --> 00:24:27,981
Right, I mean, that... Yeah.
481
00:24:27,981 --> 00:24:32,981
I mean, at the end of the day, he's
only a man and he's male, right?
482
00:24:32,981 --> 00:24:36,981
So... I mean, I don't think
anyone can expect him
483
00:24:36,981 --> 00:24:40,021
to just be a monk in a monastery
when he's newly single.
484
00:24:40,021 --> 00:24:43,981
I mean, what is he supposed to do?
485
00:24:47,981 --> 00:24:50,981
I'm going to meet an insider,
Paul Page.
486
00:24:50,981 --> 00:24:52,981
He's a former
royal protection officer.
487
00:24:52,981 --> 00:24:56,981
He worked here at Buckingham Palace
for six years.
488
00:24:57,981 --> 00:25:02,021
My job was to provide 24-hour-a-day
armed security for the Queen
489
00:25:02,021 --> 00:25:04,981
and other members of the
Royal Family at Buckingham Palace.
490
00:25:04,981 --> 00:25:07,981
Paul Page was later jailed
for his involvement
491
00:25:07,981 --> 00:25:10,821
in a multi-million pound
property scam.
492
00:25:10,821 --> 00:25:14,981
I first met Ghislaine Maxwell,
erm... I think it was 2001.
493
00:25:14,981 --> 00:25:18,821
From the way she was allowed to
enter and exit the palace at will,
494
00:25:18,821 --> 00:25:20,981
we realised... suspected
495
00:25:20,981 --> 00:25:24,661
that she may have had an intimate
relationship with Prince Andrew.
496
00:25:25,981 --> 00:25:28,981
A colleague of mine remembered her
coming in four times in one day
497
00:25:28,981 --> 00:25:30,181
from the morning till the evening.
498
00:25:30,181 --> 00:25:31,981
She kept coming in and out,
in and out.
499
00:25:33,021 --> 00:25:35,981
Back then, Paul Page had access
500
00:25:35,981 --> 00:25:38,981
to Prince Andrew's
private apartments.
501
00:25:38,981 --> 00:25:42,341
He had about 50 or 60 stuffed toys
positioned on the bed,
502
00:25:42,341 --> 00:25:46,501
and, basically, there was a card
503
00:25:46,501 --> 00:25:48,981
the inspector showed us in a draw.
504
00:25:48,981 --> 00:25:54,021
And it's a picture of these bears
all in situ on the bed.
505
00:25:54,021 --> 00:25:56,981
And the reason
for the laminated picture
506
00:25:56,981 --> 00:26:00,821
was that if those bears
weren't put back in the right order
507
00:26:00,821 --> 00:26:03,821
by the maids, he would shout and
scream and become verbally abusive.
508
00:26:09,981 --> 00:26:13,661
But it's another address around
the corner from Buckingham Palace
509
00:26:13,661 --> 00:26:15,981
that lies at the heart
of the allegations
510
00:26:15,981 --> 00:26:19,821
that Prince Andrew
is currently facing.
511
00:26:19,821 --> 00:26:22,981
In 2019, Virginia Giuffre revealed
512
00:26:22,981 --> 00:26:24,981
that she was recruited by Maxwell
513
00:26:24,981 --> 00:26:27,981
and instructed to have sex
with the Prince
514
00:26:27,981 --> 00:26:32,021
when she was just 17
in this candid interview.
515
00:26:32,021 --> 00:26:36,981
He got up, and he said thanks
and walked out and...
516
00:26:36,981 --> 00:26:42,021
I sat there in bed just horrified
and ashamed and felt dirty,
517
00:26:42,021 --> 00:26:44,981
and I had to get up
and go have a shower and...
518
00:26:44,981 --> 00:26:46,181
And, you know, the next day,
519
00:26:46,181 --> 00:26:48,981
Ghislaine tells me
I did a really good job.
520
00:26:48,981 --> 00:26:50,341
You know, she pats me on the back
and said,
521
00:26:50,341 --> 00:26:51,981
"You made him really happy."
522
00:26:57,981 --> 00:26:59,981
The Prince says
this didn't happen
523
00:26:59,981 --> 00:27:02,981
and can't recall ever meeting
Virginia Giuffre.
524
00:27:03,981 --> 00:27:07,981
But there's the small matter
of this now infamous picture
525
00:27:07,981 --> 00:27:09,341
of him and her
526
00:27:09,341 --> 00:27:11,981
that, it is claimed,
was taken that night
527
00:27:11,981 --> 00:27:14,981
with Maxwell looking on.
528
00:27:14,981 --> 00:27:16,981
The Prince was asked
about the photograph
529
00:27:16,981 --> 00:27:20,981
in this revealing
and now notorious interview.
530
00:27:20,981 --> 00:27:22,981
You've seen the photo.
I've seen the photograph.
531
00:27:22,981 --> 00:27:25,981
How do you explain that?
I can't.
532
00:27:26,981 --> 00:27:28,981
Because I don't... I have no...
533
00:27:28,981 --> 00:27:32,981
Again, I have absolutely no memory
of that photograph ever being taken.
534
00:27:32,981 --> 00:27:35,981
Do you recognise yourself
in the photo...? Oh, yeah.
535
00:27:35,981 --> 00:27:37,981
It's pretty difficult
not to recognise yourself.
536
00:27:37,981 --> 00:27:40,981
Your friend suggested
that the photo is fake.
537
00:27:42,981 --> 00:27:44,661
I think it's a...
538
00:27:44,661 --> 00:27:46,981
From the investigations
that we've done,
539
00:27:46,981 --> 00:27:52,341
you can't prove whether or not
that photograph is faked or not
540
00:27:52,341 --> 00:27:55,981
because it is a photograph
of a photograph of a photograph.
541
00:27:55,981 --> 00:27:58,981
So it's very difficult
to be able to, erm...
542
00:27:58,981 --> 00:28:00,981
to prove it, but...
543
00:28:00,981 --> 00:28:03,661
I don't remember that photograph
ever being taken.
544
00:28:04,981 --> 00:28:06,981
Thank you.
545
00:28:07,981 --> 00:28:11,981
We've come to Kinnerton Street
in Belgravia.
546
00:28:11,981 --> 00:28:13,981
It's where Ghislaine Maxwell lived,
547
00:28:13,981 --> 00:28:16,981
and where that very famous
photograph you'll recognise
548
00:28:16,981 --> 00:28:19,981
of Prince Andrew with his arm
around Virginia was taken.
549
00:28:20,981 --> 00:28:23,981
The photograph would have been
taken just up there
550
00:28:23,981 --> 00:28:25,981
by that staircase,
with Ghislaine looking on,
551
00:28:25,981 --> 00:28:28,981
Prince Andrew and Virginia
in the foreground, of course,
552
00:28:28,981 --> 00:28:31,981
and Epstein was behind the camera.
553
00:28:33,981 --> 00:28:37,981
After the trial, one of the
survivors, Carolyn Andriano,
554
00:28:37,981 --> 00:28:40,981
waived her anonymity,
and said Virginia Giuffre
555
00:28:40,981 --> 00:28:43,981
sent her a text
whilst she was in London,
556
00:28:43,981 --> 00:28:47,981
claiming she had slept
with Prince Andrew.
557
00:28:47,981 --> 00:28:50,341
Although it's disputed
whether her account
558
00:28:50,341 --> 00:28:53,981
corroborates
Virginia Giuffre's claim.
559
00:29:04,661 --> 00:29:07,981
4,000 miles away in the Caribbean,
there is more evidence
560
00:29:07,981 --> 00:29:11,981
that Virginia
and the Prince crossed paths
561
00:29:11,981 --> 00:29:15,981
on Epstein's private island,
Little St James,
562
00:29:15,981 --> 00:29:19,341
nicknamed Orgy Island by locals.
563
00:29:19,341 --> 00:29:22,981
It was just a beautiful island,
a beautiful home.
564
00:29:22,981 --> 00:29:24,981
There was, like, a trampoline
in the water
565
00:29:24,981 --> 00:29:26,981
that we jumped and played on.
566
00:29:26,981 --> 00:29:30,181
And we went to the pool
and hung out there.
567
00:29:30,181 --> 00:29:32,981
There were some other younger women
there, too.
568
00:29:34,341 --> 00:29:37,981
The flight logs of Epstein's pilot,
David Rodgers,
569
00:29:37,981 --> 00:29:40,981
show that Prince Andrew
visited the island.
570
00:29:41,981 --> 00:29:45,981
And Virginia Giuffre alleges
in her civil claim
571
00:29:45,981 --> 00:29:51,021
that, in 2001, Prince Andrew
sexually abused her there.
572
00:29:52,981 --> 00:29:54,981
There were a lot of...
573
00:29:54,981 --> 00:30:00,981
younger girls with us,
and it was, erm...
574
00:30:01,981 --> 00:30:04,981
..it was very shocking.
575
00:30:04,981 --> 00:30:06,981
I believe there were eight.
576
00:30:08,181 --> 00:30:11,981
Prince Andrew's lawyers
question her reliability
577
00:30:11,981 --> 00:30:16,981
and point to inconsistencies
in her various accounts.
578
00:30:16,981 --> 00:30:19,981
They refute all her accusations.
579
00:30:19,981 --> 00:30:22,821
I was trafficked to Prince Andrew.
580
00:30:22,821 --> 00:30:25,981
It was Ghislaine organising
all of this for me.
581
00:30:25,981 --> 00:30:28,981
She loved being able to tell
everybody what to do, where to go.
582
00:30:28,981 --> 00:30:31,181
"OK, I'm sending you to the island
for the weekend
583
00:30:31,181 --> 00:30:33,981
"to take care of so-and-so."
584
00:30:34,981 --> 00:30:38,981
I expected it from a man,
but I didn't expect it from a woman.
585
00:30:40,021 --> 00:30:41,981
And, erm...
586
00:30:42,981 --> 00:30:46,181
Yeah...
I think that's what hurts the most.
587
00:30:53,341 --> 00:30:57,981
Lisa Phillips was 21 when she first
went to Little St James.
588
00:30:57,981 --> 00:31:01,981
We got on the boat,
we went over to the island.
589
00:31:03,981 --> 00:31:06,981
We went to the quarters
where we were to sleep.
590
00:31:06,981 --> 00:31:09,021
A woman came to the door
591
00:31:09,021 --> 00:31:11,501
and said that
Jeffrey was waiting for his massage.
592
00:31:13,981 --> 00:31:16,661
She made it seem like
it was something normal,
593
00:31:16,661 --> 00:31:17,981
it was no big deal.
594
00:31:17,981 --> 00:31:20,981
Once we were in the room
doing the massage
595
00:31:20,981 --> 00:31:23,981
is where things took a turn,
and it...
596
00:31:23,981 --> 00:31:28,981
It wasn't, erm... normal any more.
597
00:31:28,981 --> 00:31:30,981
Many people talk
about just freezing,
598
00:31:30,981 --> 00:31:31,981
and I understand that.
599
00:31:34,021 --> 00:31:36,341
No, I went along with it.
600
00:31:41,981 --> 00:31:43,981
That's the truth.
601
00:31:43,981 --> 00:31:45,981
That's just what happens
in those situations.
602
00:31:45,981 --> 00:31:46,981
Yeah.
603
00:31:46,981 --> 00:31:49,981
You're not gonna kick and scream
and fight and yell
604
00:31:49,981 --> 00:31:51,981
when you're on an island.
605
00:31:51,981 --> 00:31:53,981
Yeah. So...
606
00:32:03,981 --> 00:32:09,821
Speaking to Lisa Phillips
has brought up something
607
00:32:09,821 --> 00:32:12,661
that happened to me when I was 12,
it happened once.
608
00:32:12,661 --> 00:32:13,981
And that person is dead now,
609
00:32:13,981 --> 00:32:16,981
and so I have an understanding
610
00:32:16,981 --> 00:32:22,981
of what it's like in the moment.
611
00:32:22,981 --> 00:32:25,981
And...
612
00:32:25,981 --> 00:32:29,821
why you would never want
to speak of it again.
613
00:32:29,821 --> 00:32:31,981
What I faced was different
614
00:32:31,981 --> 00:32:34,821
from what Epstein and Maxwell's
survivors went through,
615
00:32:34,821 --> 00:32:38,021
but it's still something
that will stay with me.
616
00:32:38,021 --> 00:32:42,181
As she was going through,
just describing what happened to her
617
00:32:42,181 --> 00:32:46,501
in that room with Epstein, you know,
618
00:32:46,501 --> 00:32:50,821
I'm back in the room
that I was in when I was 12.
619
00:33:04,981 --> 00:33:06,981
Excuse me. Step away.
620
00:33:06,981 --> 00:33:11,981
Did Miss Maxwell instruct
you to pick up young girls?
621
00:33:11,981 --> 00:33:14,981
At the
Ghislaine Maxwell trial in New York,
622
00:33:14,981 --> 00:33:18,341
Juan Alessi, the butler at Epstein's
luxury six-bedroom house
623
00:33:18,341 --> 00:33:22,181
in Palm Beach, Florida,
is called to give evidence.
624
00:33:25,981 --> 00:33:28,981
Juan Alessi claimed in his testimony
625
00:33:28,981 --> 00:33:31,981
that Ghislaine Maxwell did entice
underage girls
626
00:33:31,981 --> 00:33:33,981
to the house
to massage Jeffrey Epstein.
627
00:33:33,981 --> 00:33:36,981
Allegations that really
go to the heart of this trial,
628
00:33:36,981 --> 00:33:39,981
and allegations that
Ghislaine Maxwell herself denies.
629
00:33:40,981 --> 00:33:44,981
Alessi says that he drove Maxwell
around Palm Beach
630
00:33:44,981 --> 00:33:48,981
whilst she was looking
to recruit young women for Epstein.
631
00:33:48,981 --> 00:33:52,021
One of those was Virginia Giuffre.
632
00:33:52,021 --> 00:33:53,981
Like, her entire day was, like,
633
00:33:53,981 --> 00:33:57,341
running around in the car
with the butler,
634
00:33:57,341 --> 00:34:03,021
trying to go find other little girls
to bring into his home for abuse.
635
00:34:03,021 --> 00:34:06,981
So, in my perspective, she...
636
00:34:06,981 --> 00:34:09,981
she's the real monster here.
637
00:34:10,981 --> 00:34:15,981
In the trial, the prosecution
needs to demolish the idea
638
00:34:15,981 --> 00:34:17,981
that Maxwell was herself a victim.
639
00:34:17,981 --> 00:34:23,981
Juan Alessi pointed
to how she was actually number two
640
00:34:23,981 --> 00:34:27,981
in this whole scheme,
and she not only worked for Epstein,
641
00:34:27,981 --> 00:34:30,981
she was the lady of the house.
642
00:34:30,981 --> 00:34:32,981
I mean, he worked there for years,
643
00:34:32,981 --> 00:34:35,981
so he had lots of information
to share with us.
644
00:34:35,981 --> 00:34:40,981
Alessi describes
a 58-page household manual,
645
00:34:40,981 --> 00:34:43,981
which was issued by Maxwell.
646
00:34:43,981 --> 00:34:45,981
It's a strict code of conduct
for the staff
647
00:34:45,981 --> 00:34:47,981
at the Palm Beach house,
and I think gives us a glimpse
648
00:34:47,981 --> 00:34:49,981
into what daily life was like.
649
00:34:49,981 --> 00:34:53,981
For example, "What to say
after entering the room."
650
00:34:53,981 --> 00:34:57,981
"Greet Mr Epstein, Miss Maxwell
and/or their guests, 'Good morning.'
651
00:34:57,981 --> 00:34:59,981
"You do not expound on the weather.
652
00:34:59,981 --> 00:35:03,981
"You have no idea
how they're feeling."
653
00:35:03,981 --> 00:35:07,981
And most sinister, ironically
under the title Grooming...
654
00:35:07,981 --> 00:35:12,981
"Remember that you see nothing,
hear nothing,
655
00:35:12,981 --> 00:35:14,981
"say nothing."
656
00:35:22,981 --> 00:35:26,981
In 2005, police raided
Epstein's Palm Beach mansion
657
00:35:26,981 --> 00:35:28,981
after receiving complaints
658
00:35:28,981 --> 00:35:31,981
that underage girls
were being sexually abused.
659
00:35:34,981 --> 00:35:36,981
The officers were searching
for evidence
660
00:35:36,981 --> 00:35:38,981
to corroborate their stories.
661
00:35:40,981 --> 00:35:44,021
Investigative journalist
Stephen Wright has also looked into
662
00:35:44,021 --> 00:35:47,981
what was going on there
in the early 2000s.
663
00:35:47,981 --> 00:35:50,981
We went to the home of Juan Alessi,
664
00:35:50,981 --> 00:35:54,981
former butler
at Epstein's Palm Beach home.
665
00:35:54,981 --> 00:35:57,181
I was there about an hour with him
666
00:35:57,181 --> 00:36:01,981
talking about Epstein,
667
00:36:01,981 --> 00:36:06,501
talking about the type
of young women who used to visit.
668
00:36:06,501 --> 00:36:09,981
The naked pool parties,
669
00:36:09,981 --> 00:36:14,181
the pictures of scantily clad
and naked girls on the wall.
670
00:36:15,981 --> 00:36:16,981
The massages.
671
00:36:16,981 --> 00:36:20,981
The image that Alessi painted
was of a place of...
672
00:36:21,981 --> 00:36:26,981
..you know, almost debauchery,
in a way, but not in an illegal way.
673
00:36:29,981 --> 00:36:35,501
He spoke about Prince Andrew
visiting while he was there,
674
00:36:35,501 --> 00:36:38,981
and he spoke about
675
00:36:38,981 --> 00:36:42,981
a number of young women and...
676
00:36:43,981 --> 00:36:46,981
..they were topless
in the swimming pool.
677
00:36:46,981 --> 00:36:48,981
And that's how it was there.
678
00:36:48,981 --> 00:36:51,981
And I... asked him...
679
00:36:51,981 --> 00:36:55,981
because we knew then that Epstein
liked massages from young women,
680
00:36:55,981 --> 00:36:58,981
a number of the women who visited
this home were masseurs.
681
00:37:00,181 --> 00:37:02,981
I said, "Did Andrew have massages?"
682
00:37:02,981 --> 00:37:05,341
And he said, "Yes."
683
00:37:05,341 --> 00:37:06,981
But, again, I have to state,
684
00:37:06,981 --> 00:37:10,981
he didn't suggest any
of the masseurs were underage.
685
00:37:12,981 --> 00:37:13,981
There is no evidence
686
00:37:13,981 --> 00:37:16,981
that Prince Andrew had
any sexualised massages.
687
00:37:16,981 --> 00:37:19,981
I would say that Andrew was...
688
00:37:19,981 --> 00:37:22,981
put himself in a dangerous situation
689
00:37:22,981 --> 00:37:26,821
in terms of the company
he was keeping and that lifestyle.
690
00:37:27,981 --> 00:37:33,981
It didn't seem right for a senior
royal to be at that location.
691
00:37:33,981 --> 00:37:37,981
At the trial, it's established
that around that time,
692
00:37:37,981 --> 00:37:39,981
at the Palm Beach mansion,
693
00:37:39,981 --> 00:37:43,981
Maxwell was involved in paying
14-year-old Carolyn Andriano
694
00:37:43,981 --> 00:37:47,981
to give sexualised massages
to Epstein.
695
00:37:49,981 --> 00:37:51,981
We heard today from Carolyn,
696
00:37:51,981 --> 00:37:53,981
the woman who says she was 14
697
00:37:53,981 --> 00:37:55,981
when she was taken
to the Epstein home.
698
00:37:55,981 --> 00:37:57,821
And when she was taken to the house,
699
00:37:57,821 --> 00:37:59,981
she knew that she was going
to be asked to do massage for money.
700
00:37:59,981 --> 00:38:02,981
She said she didn't expect
to have to take her clothes off.
701
00:38:02,981 --> 00:38:05,981
But, in the hundreds
of other times that she visited,
702
00:38:05,981 --> 00:38:07,981
she felt more comfortable and did.
703
00:38:07,981 --> 00:38:09,981
She went on to say
that on another occasion
704
00:38:09,981 --> 00:38:12,661
that Ghislaine Maxwell
had touched her body
705
00:38:12,661 --> 00:38:14,981
when she was naked
in the massage room.
706
00:38:14,981 --> 00:38:18,981
Carolyn, her testimony
was the most gripping.
707
00:38:18,981 --> 00:38:21,021
I felt the most compassion for her
708
00:38:21,021 --> 00:38:26,981
because she literally had one
of the hardest life stories.
709
00:38:26,981 --> 00:38:30,981
Regardless of her being arrested,
710
00:38:30,981 --> 00:38:34,981
or her habitually doing drugs
and addicted to pain pills,
711
00:38:34,981 --> 00:38:39,821
what matters is did you tell truth,
did this happen to you?
712
00:38:39,821 --> 00:38:43,981
And... she told the truth
every step of the way.
713
00:38:43,981 --> 00:38:47,981
The charges relating to Carolyn
are the most serious,
714
00:38:47,981 --> 00:38:48,981
and for this alone,
715
00:38:48,981 --> 00:38:52,021
Maxwell could be facing
more than 40 years behind bars.
716
00:38:53,981 --> 00:38:56,981
Jeffrey Epstein went to jail
just before ten this morning.
717
00:38:56,981 --> 00:38:58,981
He pleaded guilty in open court.
718
00:38:58,981 --> 00:39:00,981
He agreed to serve a total
of 18 months
719
00:39:00,981 --> 00:39:02,981
in a Palm Beach detention facility.
720
00:39:02,981 --> 00:39:07,181
But when Epstein was convicted
in 2008 for a lesser charge,
721
00:39:07,181 --> 00:39:09,981
he received a much lighter sentence.
722
00:39:09,981 --> 00:39:13,981
And by August 2010,
he was a free man.
723
00:39:13,981 --> 00:39:15,981
Just four months later,
724
00:39:15,981 --> 00:39:17,981
British journalist
Annette Witheridge was alerted
725
00:39:17,981 --> 00:39:20,981
to a potential scoop in New York.
726
00:39:20,981 --> 00:39:23,981
I got a phone call
from the News Of The World saying,
727
00:39:23,981 --> 00:39:25,981
"Oh, apparently Prince Andrew's
in town.
728
00:39:25,981 --> 00:39:26,981
"Anyway you can find him?"
729
00:39:26,981 --> 00:39:31,981
So, I thought, where could he be?
Jeffrey Epstein.
730
00:39:33,981 --> 00:39:36,021
As I got nearer
to Jeffrey Epstein's place,
731
00:39:36,021 --> 00:39:39,021
there were various gentlemen
in suits outside
732
00:39:39,021 --> 00:39:41,981
talking into their cufflinks
with English accents.
733
00:39:41,981 --> 00:39:43,981
And I thought that's it,
these are Andrew's people.
734
00:39:43,981 --> 00:39:46,341
The royal protection squad.
735
00:39:46,341 --> 00:39:47,981
It seemed to be
that every 20 minutes,
736
00:39:47,981 --> 00:39:50,181
there was a girl or two
going into Jeffrey Epstein's house
737
00:39:50,181 --> 00:39:51,341
or coming out.
738
00:39:51,341 --> 00:39:53,981
And there were a lot of them.
739
00:39:53,981 --> 00:39:56,981
I really couldn't believe
that Prince Andrew
740
00:39:56,981 --> 00:40:00,981
was inside that place with all these
young girls coming and going.
741
00:40:00,981 --> 00:40:03,981
He knew that Jeffrey Epstein
was a convicted paedophile
742
00:40:03,981 --> 00:40:04,981
who'd been to jail.
743
00:40:04,981 --> 00:40:06,981
The door opened...
744
00:40:06,981 --> 00:40:10,821
Andrew was greyer
than I imagined him to be,
745
00:40:10,821 --> 00:40:13,981
and Epstein is very white grey.
746
00:40:14,981 --> 00:40:16,981
The photographer jumped out
of the car
747
00:40:16,981 --> 00:40:18,981
and followed them into Central Park.
748
00:40:20,981 --> 00:40:22,021
You could just see the headline.
749
00:40:22,021 --> 00:40:23,981
You know,
The Prince And The Pervert.
750
00:40:23,981 --> 00:40:26,981
It is a, "What are you doing,
Prince Andrew?"
751
00:40:28,981 --> 00:40:34,981
A really astonishing lack
of judgement on the part of somebody
752
00:40:34,981 --> 00:40:38,501
who is a representative
of a proud nation.
753
00:40:38,501 --> 00:40:41,341
It's astonishing
that a member of the Royal Family
754
00:40:41,341 --> 00:40:44,981
could make an error of judgement
so profound.
755
00:40:44,981 --> 00:40:48,981
The Prince says he never saw
any young girls,
756
00:40:48,981 --> 00:40:52,981
and tried to explain his reasons
for staying at Epstein's townhouse
757
00:40:52,981 --> 00:40:56,341
in this interview which contains
some frank admissions.
758
00:40:57,981 --> 00:41:01,021
You were staying at the house
Yes.
759
00:41:01,021 --> 00:41:04,501
It was a convenient place to say.
There is...
760
00:41:04,501 --> 00:41:07,981
I mean, I've gone through this
in my mind so many times.
761
00:41:09,341 --> 00:41:11,981
At the end of the day, erm...
762
00:41:11,981 --> 00:41:15,981
with the benefit of all the
hindsight that one could have,
763
00:41:15,981 --> 00:41:19,981
it was definitely
the wrong thing to do.
764
00:41:19,981 --> 00:41:23,021
But at the time,
I felt it was the honourable
765
00:41:23,021 --> 00:41:24,981
and right thing to do.
766
00:41:24,981 --> 00:41:29,181
And I-I admit fully that my...
767
00:41:29,181 --> 00:41:33,981
judgement was probably
coloured by my, erm...
768
00:41:35,821 --> 00:41:39,021
..tendency to be too honourable,
but that's just the way it is.
769
00:41:50,981 --> 00:41:52,981
Count two, not guilty.
770
00:41:52,981 --> 00:41:56,981
Counts one, three, four, five, six
were guilty. Count two - not guilty.
771
00:41:56,981 --> 00:41:58,981
We have breaking news.
The jury says it's reached a verdict
772
00:41:58,981 --> 00:42:01,181
in the sex trafficking trial
of Ghislaine Maxwell,
773
00:42:01,181 --> 00:42:03,981
Jeffrey Epstein's former girlfriend
and associate.
774
00:42:03,981 --> 00:42:05,981
She has been found guilty
775
00:42:05,981 --> 00:42:10,821
of five of the six
sex trafficking charges against her.
776
00:42:10,821 --> 00:42:11,981
..look down at her feet.
777
00:42:11,981 --> 00:42:14,981
Once the judge had read
that final count,
778
00:42:14,981 --> 00:42:18,981
a microphone was passed around
to each juror.
779
00:42:20,981 --> 00:42:22,981
It was emotional. There were tears.
780
00:42:22,981 --> 00:42:25,981
There... Because this is somebody's
life on the line,
781
00:42:25,981 --> 00:42:30,821
and the prosecution had to prove
beyond a reasonable doubt
782
00:42:30,821 --> 00:42:32,981
that Ghislaine Maxwell was guilty
of these crimes,
783
00:42:32,981 --> 00:42:36,981
and... we all felt comfortable.
784
00:42:36,981 --> 00:42:38,981
But the emotional toll
that it took on all of us
785
00:42:38,981 --> 00:42:42,981
after spending a week
combing through all of the evidence,
786
00:42:42,981 --> 00:42:46,501
all of the testimony again, was...
787
00:42:47,981 --> 00:42:48,981
It was brutal.
788
00:42:48,981 --> 00:42:51,981
What was it like going back
into the courtroom,
789
00:42:51,981 --> 00:42:53,981
and Ghislaine's there,
awaiting your verdict?
790
00:42:53,981 --> 00:42:55,981
I was looking at her the entire time
791
00:42:55,981 --> 00:42:58,981
because I felt like I wanted to see
what her reaction would be.
792
00:42:58,981 --> 00:43:01,981
And she...
793
00:43:01,981 --> 00:43:05,501
She looked forward,
and wasn't really looking around,
794
00:43:05,501 --> 00:43:08,981
and there was no emotion.
795
00:43:08,981 --> 00:43:11,981
It was just like she was a stone.
796
00:43:12,981 --> 00:43:15,981
Maxwell will be sentenced in June.
797
00:43:15,981 --> 00:43:18,981
But her lawyers say
they'll appeal the verdict.
798
00:43:21,981 --> 00:43:24,981
Damn it. Damn. I'm just damn angry.
799
00:43:24,981 --> 00:43:28,981
And I don't see how anyone,
800
00:43:28,981 --> 00:43:32,981
anyone looking at this
cannot feel that way.
801
00:43:32,981 --> 00:43:34,981
It's just wrong.
802
00:43:35,981 --> 00:43:37,981
I have devoted a lot of my time,
803
00:43:37,981 --> 00:43:42,981
as have my brother and sisters,
to helping Ghislaine.
804
00:43:42,981 --> 00:43:44,981
We believe her, we love her.
805
00:43:46,981 --> 00:43:48,981
And we hope that she will get
the justice
806
00:43:48,981 --> 00:43:50,341
that she definitely deserves.
807
00:43:55,341 --> 00:43:58,981
In an extraordinary twist,
since the verdict,
808
00:43:58,981 --> 00:44:01,981
Scotty David and at least
one other juror have revealed
809
00:44:01,981 --> 00:44:04,981
they disclosed they were
sexually abused as children
810
00:44:04,981 --> 00:44:06,981
during the jury deliberations.
811
00:44:06,981 --> 00:44:11,981
Maxwell's lawyers believe that
this may be grounds for a retrial.
812
00:44:15,981 --> 00:44:19,981
But for the survivors,
justice has been done.
813
00:44:20,981 --> 00:44:24,981
I don't feel at all
that she deserves freedom.
814
00:44:24,981 --> 00:44:29,821
I believe that she deserves to be
in a jail cell
815
00:44:29,821 --> 00:44:31,341
for a very long time.
816
00:44:32,981 --> 00:44:34,981
I don't think people realise
817
00:44:34,981 --> 00:44:38,981
how much it really does ruin
a young person's life.
818
00:44:38,981 --> 00:44:42,981
And it carries
through your life as an adult.
819
00:44:42,981 --> 00:44:44,981
Even becoming a mother,
you know,
820
00:44:44,981 --> 00:44:49,021
you're constantly thinking
and confused about what happened.
821
00:44:49,021 --> 00:44:50,981
Why did it happen?
822
00:44:50,981 --> 00:44:56,981
Because she was a woman,
she normalised abuse.
823
00:44:56,981 --> 00:45:02,981
She participated,
she tortured me and others.
824
00:45:02,981 --> 00:45:05,981
And she's worse than Jeffrey.
825
00:45:05,981 --> 00:45:08,021
She broke the sisterhood.
826
00:45:08,021 --> 00:45:09,981
She broke that bond.
827
00:45:09,981 --> 00:45:13,981
She was supposed to be
a protector and nurturer,
828
00:45:13,981 --> 00:45:15,501
and she failed us.
829
00:45:15,501 --> 00:45:19,981
And she'll have to live with that
for the rest of her life.
830
00:45:26,981 --> 00:45:28,981
Prince Andrew, the Queen's son,
831
00:45:28,981 --> 00:45:31,981
does now face a civil court case
in the United States
832
00:45:31,981 --> 00:45:36,981
on those sexual abuse allegations
made by Virginia Giuffre.
833
00:45:38,341 --> 00:45:42,981
I really hope that the authorities
continue to put the pressure on him.
834
00:45:42,981 --> 00:45:44,981
He needs to be held accountable.
835
00:45:44,981 --> 00:45:46,981
We need to show the world
836
00:45:46,981 --> 00:45:50,981
that the rich and the mighty
can fall, too, you know?
837
00:45:50,981 --> 00:45:52,981
I think that
there needs to be a new change.
838
00:45:52,981 --> 00:45:56,981
The downfall of a duke,
stripped of every military title
839
00:45:56,981 --> 00:46:00,981
given by his mother
and no longer known as HRH.
840
00:46:00,981 --> 00:46:03,661
The Queen casts out
her favourite son.
841
00:46:06,981 --> 00:46:09,981
The Queen has been forced
to take action,
842
00:46:09,981 --> 00:46:12,981
and the Prince will now
be facing his court battle
843
00:46:12,981 --> 00:46:13,981
as a private citizen.
844
00:46:13,981 --> 00:46:16,981
Virginia Giuffre is of huge
concern to the Queen
845
00:46:16,981 --> 00:46:18,981
and the rest of the Royal Family.
846
00:46:18,981 --> 00:46:22,981
Certainly, senior royals
have been absolutely at a loss
847
00:46:22,981 --> 00:46:27,501
about this situation that
Prince Andrew has not got a hold on.
848
00:46:27,501 --> 00:46:30,981
He's had more then two years
to face up to these allegations,
849
00:46:30,981 --> 00:46:33,821
and his lawyers,
first and foremost,
850
00:46:33,821 --> 00:46:35,981
thought that they didn't need
to explain themselves,
851
00:46:35,981 --> 00:46:39,021
they didn't need to really give this
any further oxygen.
852
00:46:39,021 --> 00:46:42,981
Well, that has proved
an absolutely catastrophic decision.
853
00:46:45,981 --> 00:46:49,341
We invited Prince Andrew
to respond to all the claims,
854
00:46:49,341 --> 00:46:51,981
but he declined to comment.
855
00:46:51,981 --> 00:46:54,981
At the heart of this story
is Jeffrey Epstein,
856
00:46:54,981 --> 00:46:58,981
a powerful man
who indulged his criminal fantasies
857
00:46:58,981 --> 00:47:01,981
with no thought
for the damage it caused.
858
00:47:01,981 --> 00:47:06,981
And the cold immorality of the woman
who helped make that happen.
859
00:47:06,981 --> 00:47:12,981
Anyone they came into contact with
has put their reputation at risk.
860
00:47:12,981 --> 00:47:15,981
And some have a long way to fall.
861
00:47:15,981 --> 00:47:17,981
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