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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,533 --> 00:00:06,466 And may contain mature subject matter. 2 00:00:06,467 --> 00:00:10,433 Viewer discretion is advised. 3 00:00:10,567 --> 00:00:11,133 - Tonight on "the mproof is out there.". 4 00:00:11,266 --> 00:00:12,333 (Slow music) 5 00:00:12,467 --> 00:00:14,700 Do ufo's have a thing for wildfires? 6 00:00:14,834 --> 00:00:17,233 - Ufo's enjoy frequenting sites 7 00:00:17,367 --> 00:00:20,166 of great devastation, forest fires included. 8 00:00:20,300 --> 00:00:22,367 - [Tony] How is the statue weeping? 9 00:00:22,500 --> 00:00:24,533 - This seems to be an authentic case 10 00:00:24,667 --> 00:00:27,200 of a miraculous weeping statue. 11 00:00:27,333 --> 00:00:30,600 - [Tony] And how do you explain this other worldly image? 12 00:00:30,734 --> 00:00:33,000 - It was just an eerie feeling I had looking at it. 13 00:00:33,133 --> 00:00:36,867 (Suspenseful dramatic music) 14 00:00:38,967 --> 00:00:41,033 - [Tony] Around the globe are videos. 15 00:00:41,166 --> 00:00:42,500 - [Female] What the heck is this? 16 00:00:42,633 --> 00:00:45,333 - [Tony] Photos and sounds that defy explanation. 17 00:00:45,467 --> 00:00:46,767 (Deep droning tone) 18 00:00:49,367 --> 00:00:51,767 - [Man] Is it some kind of unidentified object? 19 00:00:51,900 --> 00:00:54,433 - [Man] Plane that was literally frozen in the air? 20 00:00:54,567 --> 00:00:55,700 - [Tony] What are they? 21 00:00:55,834 --> 00:00:57,900 - [Man] Some sort of bizarre mutation. 22 00:00:58,033 --> 00:01:00,834 - Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. 23 00:01:02,967 --> 00:01:04,800 - I'm Tony Harris and as a journalist 24 00:01:04,934 --> 00:01:06,400 for more than 30 years, 25 00:01:06,533 --> 00:01:09,233 I've followed the facts where they take me. 26 00:01:09,367 --> 00:01:11,533 Now I'm bringing that spirit of investigation 27 00:01:11,667 --> 00:01:14,233 to the world's strangest sounds and images. 28 00:01:14,367 --> 00:01:15,433 (Animal shriek) 29 00:01:15,567 --> 00:01:18,100 We'll analyze each one with top experts. 30 00:01:18,233 --> 00:01:21,200 - It's a credible case, it's a credible video. 31 00:01:21,333 --> 00:01:23,967 - [Tony] And pass a verdict on what it is. 32 00:01:24,100 --> 00:01:26,033 - This video was clearly faked. 33 00:01:26,166 --> 00:01:28,166 - The proof starts now. 34 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:31,600 (Dramatic upbeat music) 35 00:01:36,100 --> 00:01:37,976 Hi everybody and welcome to "the proof is out there." 36 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,867 Let's solve some mysteries. 37 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,300 When local news choppers cover a breaking story 38 00:01:42,433 --> 00:01:44,400 you never know what's going to happen next. 39 00:01:44,533 --> 00:01:45,700 And in our first video, 40 00:01:45,834 --> 00:01:48,166 what the chopper caught purely by chance 41 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:49,734 became a story of its own. 42 00:01:51,500 --> 00:01:53,209 - [Pilot] Hey, we're gonna come over and take a look at it. 43 00:01:53,233 --> 00:01:54,667 - [Reporter] Copy that. 44 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,810 - [Pilot] All right, this is a rapidly becoming very ugly. 45 00:01:56,834 --> 00:01:57,967 - [Reporter] Yeah, it is. 46 00:01:58,100 --> 00:01:59,667 - [Pilot] Yeah, this isn't looking good. 47 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,033 (Suspenseful music) 48 00:02:01,166 --> 00:02:02,446 - [Tony] In the past five years, 49 00:02:02,567 --> 00:02:04,133 millions of acres of California 50 00:02:04,266 --> 00:02:06,433 have been consumed by wildfires. 51 00:02:06,567 --> 00:02:09,100 And in 2018 with the massive woolsey fire 52 00:02:09,233 --> 00:02:11,900 menacing northern los Angeles county itself. 53 00:02:12,033 --> 00:02:13,700 Local news choppers took to the air 54 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:16,266 to cover every smoky second. 55 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,600 - [Reporter] And then that provides a great deal of fuel 56 00:02:18,700 --> 00:02:20,100 for these fires. 57 00:02:20,233 --> 00:02:22,400 - [Tony] But when some viewers saw this footage 58 00:02:22,533 --> 00:02:24,300 they forgot all about the flames. 59 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,867 - So the helicopter captures this massive cloud of smoke 60 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,400 billowing up from the forest. 61 00:02:30,533 --> 00:02:33,233 And then all over a sudden out of the cloud 62 00:02:33,367 --> 00:02:35,600 comes this odd little shape. 63 00:02:37,033 --> 00:02:41,000 It's narrow, almost looks like a flat saucer on its side 64 00:02:41,133 --> 00:02:42,500 or a cigar shape. 65 00:02:42,633 --> 00:02:45,433 - [Tony] Journalist mj banias covers the unexplained. 66 00:02:45,567 --> 00:02:48,800 And he says the cigar shaped ufo is a classic type 67 00:02:48,934 --> 00:02:51,934 right up there with orbs, tic-tacs and triangles 68 00:02:52,066 --> 00:02:55,500 - cigar shaped ufo's haven't been seen for decades, 69 00:02:55,633 --> 00:02:56,934 if not centuries. 70 00:02:57,066 --> 00:02:59,300 And we have lots of recordings of them. 71 00:02:59,433 --> 00:03:01,800 We have lots of witness testimony of them. 72 00:03:01,934 --> 00:03:03,467 We have lots of photographs of them. 73 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,734 So for the ufo community seeing a cigar shaped ufo, 74 00:03:07,867 --> 00:03:09,667 it was pretty compelling. 75 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,700 - [Tony] The video caught fire online 76 00:03:11,834 --> 00:03:14,800 was a ufo somehow drawn to the flames? 77 00:03:14,934 --> 00:03:19,333 - There's a belief that ufo's use clouds as cover 78 00:03:19,467 --> 00:03:20,967 and they hide behind them. 79 00:03:21,100 --> 00:03:23,533 I've heard stories that ufo's can actually shape-shift 80 00:03:23,667 --> 00:03:25,333 and look like clouds. 81 00:03:25,467 --> 00:03:28,700 I've also heard that ufo's enjoy frequenting sites 82 00:03:28,834 --> 00:03:31,567 of great devastation, forest fires included. 83 00:03:35,367 --> 00:03:36,633 - Here's an interesting fact, 84 00:03:36,767 --> 00:03:39,166 more than 80% of us forest fires are started 85 00:03:39,300 --> 00:03:42,100 by human activity, from cigarettes to arson. 86 00:03:42,233 --> 00:03:43,533 Could it be that ufo's 87 00:03:43,667 --> 00:03:46,133 are somehow drawn to these large fires? 88 00:03:46,266 --> 00:03:48,500 Let's break down the video with our experts. 89 00:03:48,633 --> 00:03:51,900 (Gentle upbeat music) 90 00:03:52,033 --> 00:03:54,300 First off we know the video was real. 91 00:03:54,433 --> 00:03:57,000 It was broadcast live by a news chopper. 92 00:03:57,133 --> 00:03:59,533 And you can see from the independent motion of the object 93 00:03:59,667 --> 00:04:01,633 that it's not just a smudge on the lens. 94 00:04:01,767 --> 00:04:03,867 So could it have been an object from outer space 95 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,867 entering the earth's atmosphere? 96 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,133 We asked the video expert, Marc d'Antonio, 97 00:04:08,266 --> 00:04:09,333 a trained astronomer. 98 00:04:09,467 --> 00:04:10,934 - And sometimes meteors will come in. 99 00:04:11,066 --> 00:04:13,867 And sometimes they hit the atmosphere at such a low angle 100 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:15,633 that they can't crack 101 00:04:15,767 --> 00:04:17,600 and they just go skipping off the earth. 102 00:04:17,734 --> 00:04:19,734 And as they do that, they start to burn up. 103 00:04:19,867 --> 00:04:22,633 - [Tony] But the California ufo wasn't burning up 104 00:04:22,767 --> 00:04:24,000 and science writer Mick west 105 00:04:24,133 --> 00:04:26,467 who's lived through plenty of wildfires 106 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,300 says it couldn't be a plane. 107 00:04:28,433 --> 00:04:30,714 - It didn't seem to have any of the features of the plane. 108 00:04:30,834 --> 00:04:35,433 It had no visible wings and it seemed to be moving 109 00:04:35,567 --> 00:04:38,934 either too slow or to be too big to be a plane. 110 00:04:39,066 --> 00:04:40,600 - [Tony] Set on solving this puzzle 111 00:04:40,734 --> 00:04:42,700 west starts by determining precisely 112 00:04:42,834 --> 00:04:44,800 where the news chopper was. 113 00:04:44,934 --> 00:04:46,533 - I looked up all the helicopters 114 00:04:46,667 --> 00:04:49,400 in the flight radar of 24 tracking service 115 00:04:49,533 --> 00:04:52,000 and tried to figure out where they all were at that time. 116 00:04:52,133 --> 00:04:54,300 Then I went into Google earth 117 00:04:54,433 --> 00:04:57,600 and I positioned the camera where these helicopters were 118 00:04:57,734 --> 00:04:59,000 at around that time. 119 00:04:59,133 --> 00:05:01,333 - [Tony] Using some satellite images of the fire 120 00:05:01,467 --> 00:05:03,667 west is able to line up that image 121 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,900 with the chopper's exact camera angle. 122 00:05:06,033 --> 00:05:07,967 - So I could tell that the chopper is over here 123 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:09,433 we're looking over here. 124 00:05:09,567 --> 00:05:11,500 - [Tony] Then the Eureka moment. 125 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:14,367 - And you can see here we're looking down. 126 00:05:14,500 --> 00:05:16,367 So it's all ocean. 127 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:17,633 - [Tony] That's right. 128 00:05:17,767 --> 00:05:20,400 The sky is really the pacific ocean 129 00:05:20,533 --> 00:05:22,467 and the cigar shaped ufo? 130 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,433 - What if it was a boat that's actually out on the ocean? 131 00:05:26,567 --> 00:05:28,600 - [Tony] West checks the local shipping lanes 132 00:05:28,734 --> 00:05:29,867 and sure enough. 133 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,367 - 50 miles off the coast is the route 134 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:34,166 that all the container ships take, 135 00:05:34,300 --> 00:05:35,834 when they're going north and south 136 00:05:35,967 --> 00:05:37,767 off the coast of California. 137 00:05:37,900 --> 00:05:40,266 So what we were looking at was a container ship. 138 00:05:45,266 --> 00:05:48,734 - The moral of the story check your assumptions. 139 00:05:48,867 --> 00:05:51,867 That blue sky might turn out to be the blue ocean 140 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,734 and our verdict that ufo turned out to be 141 00:05:54,867 --> 00:05:58,600 an unidentified floating object, a container ship. 142 00:05:59,767 --> 00:06:02,433 Coming up don't believe in miracles? 143 00:06:02,567 --> 00:06:05,467 We'll wait until you see this weeping statue. 144 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,300 - That makes this even weirder. 145 00:06:08,433 --> 00:06:10,433 - When "the proof is out there" continues. 146 00:06:10,567 --> 00:06:12,433 (Dramatic music) 147 00:06:16,667 --> 00:06:18,600 (Dramatic upbeat music) 148 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:23,967 - Christianity is full of miraculous tales. 149 00:06:24,100 --> 00:06:26,700 Yet the catholic church has a very rigorous process 150 00:06:26,834 --> 00:06:30,100 for determining if something is truly an act of god. 151 00:06:30,233 --> 00:06:32,066 One case currently under consideration is 152 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,533 from the most unassuming of places, 153 00:06:34,667 --> 00:06:37,834 a small congregation close to the us Mexican border. 154 00:06:40,133 --> 00:06:43,333 Hobbs new Mexico parishioners were attending mass 155 00:06:43,467 --> 00:06:46,166 at our lady of Guadalupe catholic church. 156 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:47,633 Toward the end of the service 157 00:06:47,767 --> 00:06:49,800 people start to notice something strange happening 158 00:06:49,934 --> 00:06:52,000 with the statue of the virgin Mary. 159 00:06:52,133 --> 00:06:53,734 The worshipers get out their cell phones 160 00:06:53,867 --> 00:06:55,700 and start recording. 161 00:06:55,834 --> 00:06:58,800 (Suspenseful music) 162 00:07:01,967 --> 00:07:06,233 From the video it appears the statue is crying actual tears, 163 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,266 take a closer look at the cheek. 164 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,920 Many of those who see the video believe 165 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,867 this is a supernatural event. 166 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,176 And this is not the first time 167 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,900 something like this has happened. 168 00:07:16,033 --> 00:07:18,000 Religious scholar Diana pasulka says 169 00:07:18,133 --> 00:07:20,200 this tradition goes back for centuries. 170 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,600 - Mary is the mother of god and she's sad. 171 00:07:25,734 --> 00:07:29,066 And sometimes she cries tears of oil 172 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,934 and sometimes she cried tears of blood. 173 00:07:32,066 --> 00:07:35,000 These are relics basically thought to have divine power. 174 00:07:37,333 --> 00:07:39,100 - But how do we know this isn't some hoax 175 00:07:39,233 --> 00:07:41,100 meant to deceive the faithful? 176 00:07:41,233 --> 00:07:44,500 It's time to ask the experts is this proof or not. 177 00:07:45,967 --> 00:07:48,934 (Soft music) 178 00:07:49,066 --> 00:07:50,500 We start with trained engineer 179 00:07:50,633 --> 00:07:53,200 and catholic miracle researcher, Michael O'Neill. 180 00:07:53,333 --> 00:07:55,033 - Many people gathered to witness this 181 00:07:55,166 --> 00:07:57,266 on three different occasions of the statue 182 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,567 of the virgin Mary weeping real tears. 183 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,166 - [Tony] First question, did someone stage this? 184 00:08:04,300 --> 00:08:05,834 - We looked for internal duct work 185 00:08:05,967 --> 00:08:08,934 has something been installed inside the statue 186 00:08:09,066 --> 00:08:11,533 or outside the statue that would place tears 187 00:08:11,667 --> 00:08:13,800 on the eyes in a mechanical way. 188 00:08:13,934 --> 00:08:15,400 And that was ruled out. 189 00:08:15,533 --> 00:08:16,600 We also have to consider 190 00:08:16,734 --> 00:08:19,200 somebody sneaking in at off hours 191 00:08:19,333 --> 00:08:21,066 and putting droplets in the eyes and then 192 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,467 alerting everyone saying, 193 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,667 "see, we're looking at a weeping statue." 194 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,500 But we know that from the reports 195 00:08:26,633 --> 00:08:29,033 that people were gathered around the statue 196 00:08:29,166 --> 00:08:31,800 and saw the statue begin to weep tears. 197 00:08:31,934 --> 00:08:34,500 So the tears began to form on their own 198 00:08:34,633 --> 00:08:36,033 with witnesses around. 199 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:38,433 - [Tony] So O'Neill investigates 200 00:08:38,567 --> 00:08:41,266 if perhaps the tears were caused by a leaky pipe. 201 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,166 - There is no leaky pipe, either below or above 202 00:08:44,300 --> 00:08:45,867 or inside or around the statue. 203 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,300 It's completely a standalone statue. 204 00:08:48,433 --> 00:08:51,734 - [Tony] Finally, could the tears be caused by condensation? 205 00:08:51,867 --> 00:08:54,800 O'Neill visits the foundry that made the bronze statue. 206 00:08:54,934 --> 00:08:57,967 - This was the singular case of all the many statues 207 00:08:58,100 --> 00:09:01,066 that they had created that exhibited this phenomena. 208 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:02,276 And we look at these statues 209 00:09:02,300 --> 00:09:04,133 they're made of a bronze alloy. 210 00:09:04,266 --> 00:09:07,367 And so as such, they cannot retain water. 211 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:09,567 - [Tony] Physicist Dr. Hakeem oluseyi 212 00:09:09,700 --> 00:09:12,100 also weighs the condensation theory. 213 00:09:12,233 --> 00:09:13,734 - What's special about the eyes 214 00:09:13,867 --> 00:09:16,166 that make that the location where it occurs, 215 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:18,033 and nowhere else on the statue, 216 00:09:18,166 --> 00:09:20,700 it wasn't sweating, it was crying. 217 00:09:20,834 --> 00:09:23,900 So what is it about the statue 218 00:09:24,033 --> 00:09:27,233 and the location of the eyes that would make it 219 00:09:27,367 --> 00:09:29,600 cry but not do anything else. 220 00:09:29,734 --> 00:09:31,814 - [Tony] And it's even more strange when you consider 221 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:33,633 what the tears were made of. 222 00:09:33,767 --> 00:09:35,633 - You would expect the liquid to be water 223 00:09:35,767 --> 00:09:37,100 but the liquid has been tested 224 00:09:37,233 --> 00:09:39,734 and it turns out it's not water, it's olive oil. 225 00:09:39,867 --> 00:09:42,967 So that makes this even weirder. 226 00:09:44,433 --> 00:09:47,333 - [Tony] So if it's not a hoax, a leak or condensation 227 00:09:47,467 --> 00:09:48,467 then what is it? 228 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:51,166 - This seems to be an authentic case 229 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:53,300 of a miraculous weeping statue. 230 00:09:53,433 --> 00:09:54,934 We may not know why it's happening 231 00:09:55,066 --> 00:09:57,066 but we know that it is happening. 232 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,567 (Soft music) 233 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,040 - The catholic church is yet to verify this incident 234 00:10:03,166 --> 00:10:06,734 as a miracle, but so far there's no earthly explanation 235 00:10:06,867 --> 00:10:08,767 for the weeping Mary of new Mexico. 236 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:11,600 And that olive oil is what does it for us 237 00:10:11,734 --> 00:10:14,100 our verdict, an unexplained phenomenon. 238 00:10:14,233 --> 00:10:17,033 And if you want to call it a miracle, you go right ahead. 239 00:10:18,367 --> 00:10:20,300 Coming up a mysterious image, 240 00:10:20,433 --> 00:10:22,600 captured on a camera in the woods, 241 00:10:22,734 --> 00:10:23,734 has the experts asking. 242 00:10:23,867 --> 00:10:25,400 - Well is that an alien? 243 00:10:25,533 --> 00:10:28,700 (Dramatic upbeat music) 244 00:10:33,700 --> 00:10:35,100 (Upbeat music) 245 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:39,900 - Our next story takes us 246 00:10:40,033 --> 00:10:42,667 to big sky country in western Montana. 247 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,900 A state with a reputation for unexplained phenomenon. 248 00:10:46,033 --> 00:10:47,600 And this bizarre image is proof 249 00:10:47,734 --> 00:10:49,800 that if you're ever there at night, 250 00:10:49,934 --> 00:10:51,300 it's best to bring a camera. 251 00:10:53,633 --> 00:10:57,133 Deer lodge Montana, October, 2018 252 00:10:57,266 --> 00:10:59,166 Don bromley is working a ranch equipped 253 00:10:59,300 --> 00:11:02,400 with more than 100 motion control trail cams 254 00:11:02,533 --> 00:11:05,233 to spot predators and catch potential trespassers. 255 00:11:06,533 --> 00:11:08,700 One morning, Don checks the cameras 256 00:11:08,834 --> 00:11:11,367 and realizes they'd caught a trespasser 257 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:13,000 unlike any he'd ever seen. 258 00:11:17,033 --> 00:11:19,066 - It was one of those, just an eerie feeling. 259 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,300 I have looking at it. 260 00:11:20,433 --> 00:11:23,500 It had the two legs, but it didn't look right. 261 00:11:23,633 --> 00:11:27,266 You could see the head was too big and a little off 262 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,367 you really made you guess and question what it was 263 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:32,066 - [Tony] Now take a closer look, 264 00:11:33,033 --> 00:11:34,567 especially that bulbous head. 265 00:11:34,700 --> 00:11:36,767 Does that look human to you? 266 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:39,433 Don doubted, the camera was miles away 267 00:11:39,567 --> 00:11:41,867 from any sort of road or trail. 268 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,000 So he went back to conduct a photo experiment. 269 00:11:45,133 --> 00:11:48,233 I found the exact spot where that being was and where I was 270 00:11:48,367 --> 00:11:50,533 and put them side by side. 271 00:11:52,033 --> 00:11:54,353 And I'm glad I did it because that one really hits it home. 272 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,000 It really shows what a person should look like. 273 00:11:57,133 --> 00:11:59,934 And then there's no explanation for the other one. 274 00:12:00,133 --> 00:12:02,700 - [Tony] So what are we looking at here, a bigfoot? 275 00:12:04,166 --> 00:12:07,500 - Montana has a rich history of cryptids in general, 276 00:12:07,633 --> 00:12:09,667 sasquatch has being number one on the list 277 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,133 because it is excellent habitat, they are there. 278 00:12:13,266 --> 00:12:17,500 - [Tony] Montana was also a hotspot for ufo activity. 279 00:12:17,633 --> 00:12:19,867 - There's cattle mutilations, horse mutilations. 280 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,333 There's just a lot of activity 281 00:12:22,467 --> 00:12:25,300 that is unexplained to this day. 282 00:12:25,433 --> 00:12:28,834 - [Tony] In fact in 1950 Montana was where it's believed 283 00:12:28,967 --> 00:12:32,133 a man named Nick Marianna's made ufo history. 284 00:12:34,166 --> 00:12:37,400 - He sees these two shiny objects moving through the sky. 285 00:12:38,834 --> 00:12:43,734 He gets the 16 millimeter camera and films this. 286 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,633 As far as we know, this is the first ufo captured on film. 287 00:12:52,700 --> 00:12:56,066 - So to Don's camera capture something equally momentous 288 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,333 a bigfoot, an extra terrestrial or something entirely new. 289 00:13:00,467 --> 00:13:02,533 We sent Don's photo to our experts, 290 00:13:02,667 --> 00:13:05,000 starting with our trustee forensic image analyst, 291 00:13:05,133 --> 00:13:06,200 Michael primo. 292 00:13:06,333 --> 00:13:09,266 (Suspenseful music) 293 00:13:10,533 --> 00:13:12,433 The first question is whether or not 294 00:13:12,567 --> 00:13:14,600 Don altered this picture. 295 00:13:14,734 --> 00:13:16,934 - We performed essentially an X-ray of the image 296 00:13:17,066 --> 00:13:19,900 that provides any kind of distinction between something 297 00:13:20,033 --> 00:13:23,900 that's been copied and pasted onto a picture. 298 00:13:24,033 --> 00:13:26,100 But I didn't detect any alerts 299 00:13:26,233 --> 00:13:29,600 from my image authentication software to notify me that 300 00:13:29,734 --> 00:13:32,800 there were any kind of inconsistencies with the image. 301 00:13:32,934 --> 00:13:34,500 This is a camera originally. 302 00:13:34,633 --> 00:13:37,200 - Okay we know it's not a fake photograph. 303 00:13:37,333 --> 00:13:39,967 So then could it be the famous bigfoot? 304 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:42,633 We take the photo to anthropologist Kathy strain. 305 00:13:43,834 --> 00:13:45,266 - Obviously it's not an animal. 306 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,667 So this is something that's walking upright 307 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:48,800 it's clearly bipedal. 308 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:50,266 It's not on all fours. 309 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,767 And there's not a whole lot of cryptids that are bipedal. 310 00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:56,700 Bigfoot walks on two legs. 311 00:13:56,834 --> 00:13:58,576 - [Tony] But that may be where the similarities 312 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,567 to bigfoot end. 313 00:14:00,700 --> 00:14:02,700 - Doesn't seem to be heavy set. 314 00:14:02,834 --> 00:14:06,233 Wide shouldered, is clearly not hair covered. 315 00:14:06,367 --> 00:14:09,667 It doesn't appear to be that much difference 316 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,300 in size than Don himself. 317 00:14:11,433 --> 00:14:15,700 And so it doesn't make any sense for that to be a bigfoot. 318 00:14:15,834 --> 00:14:17,114 - [Tony] So if it's not a bigfoot 319 00:14:17,233 --> 00:14:20,166 could it be something else inhuman? 320 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:23,100 - Your initial thought is well is that an alien? 321 00:14:23,233 --> 00:14:24,433 Is that what we're looking at? 322 00:14:24,533 --> 00:14:26,333 But if you look at it more closely 323 00:14:26,467 --> 00:14:31,066 you can see that to me anyway that he's wearing a hoodie 324 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,633 and that's why his head looks so funny shaped. 325 00:14:33,767 --> 00:14:38,000 And he's not wearing a backpack but is clearly a trespasser 326 00:14:38,133 --> 00:14:41,200 to me going through the property. 327 00:14:41,333 --> 00:14:45,233 I use game cameras a lot because we put them out 328 00:14:45,367 --> 00:14:47,700 at archeological sites to catch looters. 329 00:14:47,834 --> 00:14:50,367 And based on that it has all the elements 330 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:53,266 of just an overexposed photo. 331 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,734 And it's a malfunction I think of the camera. 332 00:14:55,867 --> 00:14:58,400 Like this is an overexposed mountain lion. 333 00:14:58,533 --> 00:14:59,633 You can tell it's a cat 334 00:14:59,767 --> 00:15:01,567 but you're not gonna get much else out of that 335 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,734 because it's so over flashed that you can't get any details. 336 00:15:05,867 --> 00:15:09,667 In this other photo because it looks like a human 337 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,834 I'm gonna conclude that it's a human. 338 00:15:11,967 --> 00:15:14,934 (Suspenseful music) 339 00:15:16,133 --> 00:15:17,900 - So we can say that the photo is authentic 340 00:15:18,033 --> 00:15:21,533 despite the suspicious blurring around the distorted head. 341 00:15:21,667 --> 00:15:22,800 See that right there. 342 00:15:22,934 --> 00:15:26,033 But Kathy strains cat picture convinces me 343 00:15:26,166 --> 00:15:29,300 for now at least our verdict is blurred human. 344 00:15:29,433 --> 00:15:30,967 One note though, Don says none 345 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:33,633 of his other cameras recorded any trespassers. 346 00:15:33,767 --> 00:15:36,033 So that bit of the mystery is still lingering. 347 00:15:37,433 --> 00:15:40,400 Coming up she says this popular app connected her thoughts 348 00:15:40,533 --> 00:15:42,200 to the material world. 349 00:15:42,333 --> 00:15:44,433 - Where did you come from? 350 00:15:44,567 --> 00:15:46,467 I think anything's possible. 351 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:47,967 - [Tony] But what will you think 352 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:49,660 when "the proof is out there" continues? 353 00:15:49,734 --> 00:15:52,734 (Dramatic music) 354 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,967 (Dramatic upbeat music) 355 00:15:59,100 --> 00:16:01,066 - Could there be a link between our minds 356 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,467 and the material world around us? 357 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,100 Can just thinking about something, make it come true? 358 00:16:06,233 --> 00:16:09,133 We found some people who believe that's now possible. 359 00:16:09,266 --> 00:16:11,233 Thanks to an app on your phone. 360 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,600 It's may, 2020. 361 00:16:14,734 --> 00:16:17,166 And when Alexa walkovitz learned her mother's dog, 362 00:16:17,300 --> 00:16:18,867 lala was lost. 363 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,533 She and her friend Anna did something 364 00:16:20,667 --> 00:16:22,934 you might find hard to believe. 365 00:16:23,066 --> 00:16:24,876 - We look at our home used to pick the settings 366 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:28,066 and we just think really, really long and hard about lala. 367 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,867 Let's visualize in our mind us finding her. 368 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:31,800 - [Tony] What? 369 00:16:31,934 --> 00:16:33,133 Well believe it or not. 370 00:16:33,266 --> 00:16:36,100 It's all about an app called randonautica. 371 00:16:37,233 --> 00:16:39,333 Alexa and her friends set an intention 372 00:16:39,467 --> 00:16:41,200 and thought of her mother's dog, 373 00:16:41,333 --> 00:16:43,867 the randonautica app which claims to direct people 374 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,667 to a real world encounter with those intentions, 375 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,300 then displayed random GPS coordinates 376 00:16:49,433 --> 00:16:51,500 near her home in the mojave desert. 377 00:16:51,633 --> 00:16:53,073 - From walking home, walking forward. 378 00:16:53,133 --> 00:16:56,767 And Anna turns to me and kind of like says, "what's that?" 379 00:16:58,867 --> 00:17:00,133 There was a little animal. 380 00:17:00,266 --> 00:17:02,333 Where did you come from? 381 00:17:02,467 --> 00:17:04,066 And I realized it was a dog. 382 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,333 I didn't even see it. 383 00:17:06,467 --> 00:17:08,567 - [Tony] Take another look out of nowhere, 384 00:17:08,700 --> 00:17:10,567 this dog appears in the desert. 385 00:17:12,500 --> 00:17:14,767 Now it turned out this dog wasn't her mother's 386 00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:16,934 it had escaped from a nearby property. 387 00:17:17,066 --> 00:17:19,333 And although Alexa never found lala 388 00:17:19,467 --> 00:17:23,300 she is convinced the app taps into the power of the mind. 389 00:17:23,433 --> 00:17:25,200 - It's kind of a healing adventure, 390 00:17:25,333 --> 00:17:28,433 because maybe that was my dog speaking through that dog 391 00:17:28,567 --> 00:17:32,200 and was trying to say to you, listen, it's okay. 392 00:17:32,333 --> 00:17:34,834 Here I am to come for you for a moment. 393 00:17:34,967 --> 00:17:37,567 - Experiences like Alexis made randonautica, 394 00:17:37,700 --> 00:17:39,400 the craze of 2020. 395 00:17:39,533 --> 00:17:43,100 In just three months the app drew over 15 million downloads 396 00:17:43,233 --> 00:17:45,533 with thousands of posts on social media 397 00:17:45,667 --> 00:17:48,266 of people declaring their intentions. 398 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,767 - [Woman] The intention for my randoneer journey is purple. 399 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:53,867 - [Tony] Heading to random locations. 400 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,333 - Is that our purple house? 401 00:17:57,066 --> 00:18:00,333 - And finding their wishes at least partially fulfilled. 402 00:18:00,467 --> 00:18:03,000 (Dramatic upbeat music) 403 00:18:03,133 --> 00:18:04,233 - Like thinking of purple 404 00:18:04,367 --> 00:18:07,000 and then having the app lead to this backyard. 405 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,734 - It's kind of blowing my mind right now. 406 00:18:10,867 --> 00:18:12,767 - So does the world of the mind connect 407 00:18:12,900 --> 00:18:14,233 with the physical world? 408 00:18:14,367 --> 00:18:18,066 Can randonautica really manifest our intentions. 409 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,567 We asked our friendly physicist 410 00:18:19,700 --> 00:18:21,900 to come up with an experiment to test it. 411 00:18:22,033 --> 00:18:24,967 (Tense music) 412 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:28,100 Dr. Hakeem oluseyi and Dr. Michio kaku 413 00:18:28,233 --> 00:18:29,667 give us our guidelines. 414 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,166 - In order to test this idea to see if it works. 415 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:33,667 We have to do a lot of tests 416 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,000 to remove the statistical uncertainties. 417 00:18:36,133 --> 00:18:38,200 And you have to keep very careful records 418 00:18:38,333 --> 00:18:41,033 of when you're right and when you're wrong. 419 00:18:41,166 --> 00:18:42,200 (Suspenseful music) 420 00:18:42,333 --> 00:18:43,433 - [Woman] There it is. 421 00:18:43,567 --> 00:18:45,200 - Second when it comes to our goal 422 00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:48,800 make it specific and not metaphorical. 423 00:18:48,934 --> 00:18:53,767 - My intention was adventure and cool stuff. 424 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:56,367 And this is so cool. 425 00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:58,867 No, that's something that looks pretty. 426 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,700 - [Woman] Wow. 427 00:18:59,834 --> 00:19:01,233 - No cash, 428 00:19:01,367 --> 00:19:05,633 that to me would be a very convincing experiment. 429 00:19:06,867 --> 00:19:08,267 - [Tony] So that's just what we did. 430 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,567 Asking our test subject to declare cash as her intention. 431 00:19:12,700 --> 00:19:15,600 - A hundred dollars, a hundred dollars. 432 00:19:15,734 --> 00:19:19,200 - [Tony] The app generates random GPS coordinates. 433 00:19:19,333 --> 00:19:20,900 Now let's see where we're going. 434 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,967 - Part of a hairbrush. 435 00:19:25,100 --> 00:19:27,767 - [Tony] So far, no cash. 436 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:28,934 (Suspenseful music) 437 00:19:29,066 --> 00:19:32,333 - All right my intention $100, 438 00:19:32,467 --> 00:19:34,867 $100. 439 00:19:40,734 --> 00:19:44,400 I found a weird buckle thing. 440 00:19:44,533 --> 00:19:47,100 - [Tony] Our subject keeps repeating the experiment. 441 00:19:48,133 --> 00:19:50,633 - My intention, $100. 442 00:19:50,767 --> 00:19:54,867 - Then at one location no dollar bills but. 443 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:01,700 - I've found batteries. 444 00:20:02,934 --> 00:20:04,867 So we didn't find any money at this location 445 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,600 but there is a bank really close to here. 446 00:20:06,667 --> 00:20:07,500 So you never know. 447 00:20:07,633 --> 00:20:09,000 Maybe that's what drew me here. 448 00:20:09,133 --> 00:20:10,834 - [Tony] Like many randonautica stories 449 00:20:10,967 --> 00:20:13,934 the exact intention didn't manifest, 450 00:20:14,066 --> 00:20:15,834 but something kind of related. 451 00:20:15,967 --> 00:20:17,567 So what's happening here. 452 00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:19,233 Kaku believes the explanation 453 00:20:19,367 --> 00:20:21,800 is something called the synchronicity effect. 454 00:20:21,934 --> 00:20:23,567 A phenomenon where people interpret 455 00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:26,967 two coincidentally events as intertwined. 456 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:28,500 - [Woman] Wow. 457 00:20:28,633 --> 00:20:31,834 - Synchronicity for example is you're thinking about Joe 458 00:20:31,967 --> 00:20:34,133 and Joe calls you on the telephone 459 00:20:34,266 --> 00:20:37,400 and you say to yourself, aha I knew it, I'm psychic. 460 00:20:38,567 --> 00:20:40,900 - It's kind of blowing my mind right now. 461 00:20:41,033 --> 00:20:42,233 - [Tony] But kaku explains 462 00:20:42,367 --> 00:20:44,800 while everyone remembers the occasional hits. 463 00:20:44,934 --> 00:20:46,867 - Most of the time they're misses. 464 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,367 You forget about them. 465 00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:50,900 But think of all the times when you thought about Jane 466 00:20:51,033 --> 00:20:53,333 and Harry and they didn't call you. 467 00:20:53,467 --> 00:20:56,400 (Suspenseful music) 468 00:20:57,700 --> 00:21:00,367 - Our verdict, most likely coincidence. 469 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:02,767 Which comes from people making very general wishes 470 00:21:02,900 --> 00:21:04,667 like something that will make me happy. 471 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:05,967 But there is a lot. 472 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:07,620 We still don't know about this universe 473 00:21:07,734 --> 00:21:09,000 but that's what we think. 474 00:21:09,133 --> 00:21:10,533 What do you think? 475 00:21:10,667 --> 00:21:11,300 Please reach out to us with 476 00:21:11,433 --> 00:21:12,900 your comments and suggestions. 477 00:21:13,033 --> 00:21:14,233 I'm Tony Harris and that's 478 00:21:14,367 --> 00:21:15,800 our show for tonight. 479 00:21:15,934 --> 00:21:17,066 Thanks for watching. 480 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,800 And by all means, keep those cameras rolling. 481 00:21:19,934 --> 00:21:23,066 (Gentle upbeat music) 37407

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