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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,074 --> 00:00:04,714 (suspenseful tense music) 2 00:00:12,796 --> 00:00:15,196 (slow music) 3 00:00:20,397 --> 00:00:22,017 (car engine purring) 4 00:00:22,117 --> 00:00:24,978 - We were all born in Gary. 5 00:00:25,078 --> 00:00:29,539 I haven't really been here since I was eight years old. 6 00:00:29,639 --> 00:00:32,639 (gentle slow music) 7 00:00:42,201 --> 00:00:44,461 - It's just something that needs to be done. 8 00:00:44,561 --> 00:00:45,901 It's never... 9 00:00:46,001 --> 00:00:50,502 You've had someone write this unauthorised biography 10 00:00:50,602 --> 00:00:51,982 or someone else do something. 11 00:00:52,082 --> 00:00:54,663 Or they'll do a movie and it's candy cut. 12 00:00:54,763 --> 00:00:57,223 Oh look, I've never seen this. 13 00:00:57,323 --> 00:00:59,324 Turn the camera around, Ben. 14 00:01:00,804 --> 00:01:02,804 There's a mural of my brothers. 15 00:01:03,884 --> 00:01:05,425 Oh, I love that! 16 00:01:05,525 --> 00:01:08,005 (tense music) 17 00:01:13,766 --> 00:01:16,767 (slow gentle music) 18 00:01:27,928 --> 00:01:30,409 (Janet weeps) 19 00:01:32,049 --> 00:01:34,050 That's so sweet. 20 00:01:35,970 --> 00:01:37,970 They're all looking upward. 21 00:01:40,251 --> 00:01:40,991 Except for Mike. 22 00:01:41,091 --> 00:01:42,031 He's looking straight out. 23 00:01:42,131 --> 00:01:44,231 See? 24 00:01:44,331 --> 00:01:47,372 Always so nosy. (giggles) 25 00:01:48,172 --> 00:01:48,912 (crowd cheering) 26 00:01:49,012 --> 00:01:49,892 - [Presenter 1] Michael, Marlon, Jermaine, 27 00:01:49,972 --> 00:01:53,793 Tito and Jackie, the mighty, mighty Jackson 5. 28 00:01:53,893 --> 00:01:56,153 (dramatic music) 29 00:01:56,253 --> 00:01:57,393 - [Presenter 2] When the Jackson 5 came out 30 00:01:57,493 --> 00:01:58,834 with their first hit single, 31 00:01:58,934 --> 00:02:00,354 they had a baby sister at home. 32 00:02:00,454 --> 00:02:03,435 - [Presenter 3] The youngest, in a talented family of nine. 33 00:02:03,535 --> 00:02:04,295 - [Michael] Ladies and gentlemen, 34 00:02:04,375 --> 00:02:06,115 I'd like to introduce Janet Jackson. 35 00:02:06,215 --> 00:02:10,216 (suspenseful ceremonious music) 36 00:02:11,296 --> 00:02:15,617 - [Janet] This is a story about control, my control, 37 00:02:17,817 --> 00:02:19,557 control of what I say, 38 00:02:19,657 --> 00:02:24,658 control of what I do and this time, I'm gonna do it my way. 39 00:02:26,058 --> 00:02:27,679 (dramatic bang) 40 00:02:27,779 --> 00:02:29,399 ♪ And now I know what I've got to take ♪ 41 00:02:29,499 --> 00:02:30,239 - [Presenter 4] As one 42 00:02:30,339 --> 00:02:32,119 of the world's most gifted superstars. 43 00:02:32,219 --> 00:02:34,960 - [Presenter 5] She is a platinum selling singer. 44 00:02:35,060 --> 00:02:38,200 - [Presenter 4] The queen of pop, soul, country, everything. 45 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:42,101 - [Presenter 5] The legendary queen of black girl magic, 46 00:02:43,501 --> 00:02:45,502 Miss Janet Jackson. 47 00:02:45,942 --> 00:02:48,162 (crowd cheering) 48 00:02:48,262 --> 00:02:50,883 (audience clapping) 49 00:02:50,983 --> 00:02:53,743 (dramatic music) 50 00:02:56,183 --> 00:02:58,444 (audience clapping) 51 00:02:58,544 --> 00:02:59,604 - We're the Jacksons. 52 00:02:59,704 --> 00:03:01,044 I'm Michael Jackson. 53 00:03:01,144 --> 00:03:02,205 - Hi, I am Jackie Jackson 54 00:03:02,305 --> 00:03:04,565 and I'm the senior member of the family. 55 00:03:04,665 --> 00:03:05,645 - Hi, I'm Marlon. 56 00:03:05,745 --> 00:03:07,125 - Hi, I'm Rebbie. 57 00:03:07,225 --> 00:03:08,366 - And I'm LaToya. 58 00:03:08,466 --> 00:03:09,606 - And I'm Randy Jackson. 59 00:03:09,706 --> 00:03:10,466 (audience cheers and whoops) 60 00:03:10,546 --> 00:03:12,446 - This is our little sister, Janet Jackson. 61 00:03:12,546 --> 00:03:14,967 (audience claps) (audience cheers) 62 00:03:15,067 --> 00:03:16,207 - That's right! 63 00:03:16,307 --> 00:03:20,488 I'm Janet Jackson and nothing goes until I say go. 64 00:03:20,588 --> 00:03:23,208 (laughing) (audience applauds and cheers) 65 00:03:23,308 --> 00:03:25,048 Okay, (finger snaps) go. 66 00:03:25,148 --> 00:03:27,449 (audience cheers) (audience clapping) 67 00:03:27,549 --> 00:03:30,409 - It's a girl, three boys, a girl, three boys, a girl. 68 00:03:30,509 --> 00:03:32,170 That's the, that's, that's how it goes. 69 00:03:32,270 --> 00:03:37,450 So, it's Rebbie, Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, 70 00:03:37,550 --> 00:03:42,371 Rebbie, Marlon, Michael, Randy and myself. 71 00:03:42,471 --> 00:03:44,472 Toya, Marlon, Michael, Randy and myself. 72 00:03:45,432 --> 00:03:48,612 That's the pattern, that's how I get it right. 73 00:03:48,712 --> 00:03:51,453 (soulful music) 74 00:03:51,553 --> 00:03:54,413 ♪ 2300 Jackson Street ♪ 75 00:03:54,513 --> 00:03:55,294 - A lot of people think 76 00:03:55,394 --> 00:03:58,234 that they named this street after us, 77 00:03:59,234 --> 00:04:01,235 but it was always Jackson Street. 78 00:04:02,835 --> 00:04:04,015 ♪ 2300 Jackson Street ♪ - I used to play 79 00:04:04,115 --> 00:04:06,115 on this street, 80 00:04:06,595 --> 00:04:08,176 it brings back so many memories. 81 00:04:08,276 --> 00:04:09,216 (audience clapping) 82 00:04:09,316 --> 00:04:13,297 - I kind of think of you as the sap in our family tree. 83 00:04:13,397 --> 00:04:15,677 (all laughing) 84 00:04:16,997 --> 00:04:18,137 - We were probably as close 85 00:04:18,237 --> 00:04:20,098 as any brother and sister could be. 86 00:04:20,198 --> 00:04:21,578 We talk about everything. 87 00:04:21,678 --> 00:04:24,859 - Are you saying that you don't think I'm very smart? 88 00:04:24,959 --> 00:04:26,099 We fight. 89 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:27,499 She hits like a man. 90 00:04:27,599 --> 00:04:30,359 (crowd laughing) 91 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,500 - Like cats and dogs, we'd fight. 92 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,941 'Cause he would always tease me, but we were close. 93 00:04:37,041 --> 00:04:38,861 Randy, myself and Mike. 94 00:04:38,961 --> 00:04:42,081 We were like "The Three Amigos", "The Three Stooges". 95 00:04:43,162 --> 00:04:44,582 (bright music) 96 00:04:44,682 --> 00:04:46,462 - [Randy] Put on that jacket, I'm freezing. 97 00:04:46,562 --> 00:04:47,422 - I am. 98 00:04:47,522 --> 00:04:48,383 - I didn't bring my jacket. 99 00:04:48,483 --> 00:04:50,143 - Why would, why wouldn't you do that? 100 00:04:50,243 --> 00:04:51,263 - It's inside. 101 00:04:51,363 --> 00:04:52,103 - Oh. 102 00:04:52,203 --> 00:04:52,943 - Come on. 103 00:04:53,043 --> 00:04:55,184 Come on, let's go. 104 00:04:55,284 --> 00:04:56,024 This is it. 105 00:04:56,124 --> 00:04:58,584 - What a sweet house! 106 00:04:58,684 --> 00:05:01,085 - All 670 square feet. 107 00:05:02,005 --> 00:05:03,145 For nine kids... 108 00:05:03,245 --> 00:05:03,985 - It's charming. 109 00:05:04,085 --> 00:05:06,846 - And, and two parents. 110 00:05:07,726 --> 00:05:09,966 When we were little this house seemed so big. 111 00:05:10,886 --> 00:05:14,907 This is where we grew up, played, fought, made music. 112 00:05:15,007 --> 00:05:16,547 This is where it started. 113 00:05:16,647 --> 00:05:21,648 (slow music) (kids shouting) 114 00:05:23,168 --> 00:05:25,629 (upbeat music) 115 00:05:25,729 --> 00:05:26,749 - [Janet] Mother, are you cold? 116 00:05:26,849 --> 00:05:27,589 - Uh-huh. 117 00:05:27,689 --> 00:05:29,269 - [Janet] Just put it around you. 118 00:05:29,369 --> 00:05:30,110 There. 119 00:05:30,210 --> 00:05:31,390 (upbeat music) 120 00:05:31,490 --> 00:05:34,910 Mother, what was it like living in that home, 121 00:05:35,010 --> 00:05:36,831 with nine children? 122 00:05:36,931 --> 00:05:40,151 - Life in the house in Indiana wasn't easy, 123 00:05:40,251 --> 00:05:42,752 because it was only two bedrooms, 124 00:05:42,852 --> 00:05:44,792 a living room and a kitchen. 125 00:05:44,892 --> 00:05:47,473 And the kitchen was very, very tiny 126 00:05:47,573 --> 00:05:52,573 and we had to all try to eat at the table. (laughs) 127 00:05:53,494 --> 00:05:54,794 - [Janet] I really don't remember much 128 00:05:54,894 --> 00:05:57,054 because I was two, three years old. 129 00:05:58,174 --> 00:06:00,595 - She was the cutest baby. 130 00:06:00,695 --> 00:06:04,475 To have a little sister, that was really special. 131 00:06:04,575 --> 00:06:06,756 One thing I have to say about little Janet, 132 00:06:06,856 --> 00:06:10,336 she's always been her own lady, even then, you know? 133 00:06:11,857 --> 00:06:12,597 - Let's go inside, come on. 134 00:06:12,697 --> 00:06:13,637 - [Janet] Yeah, yeah. 135 00:06:13,737 --> 00:06:14,877 - [Randy] Yeah. 136 00:06:14,977 --> 00:06:17,678 - [Janet] I can't get over how small this place is. 137 00:06:17,778 --> 00:06:19,518 - It is small. 138 00:06:19,618 --> 00:06:21,598 Do you remember where you used to sleep in this house? 139 00:06:21,698 --> 00:06:22,439 - No. 140 00:06:22,539 --> 00:06:23,279 - Okay, let me tell you. 141 00:06:23,379 --> 00:06:26,519 There used to be a riviera sofa here. 142 00:06:26,619 --> 00:06:29,680 And you, LaToya and Rebbie would sleep right here. 143 00:06:29,780 --> 00:06:30,520 - In the living room? 144 00:06:30,620 --> 00:06:31,360 - [Randy] Yeah. 145 00:06:31,460 --> 00:06:33,160 - You're kidding. - Yeah, right here. 146 00:06:33,260 --> 00:06:35,481 - I was 16 when Janet was born. 147 00:06:35,581 --> 00:06:39,441 I was so happy when I found out my mom had a girl. 148 00:06:39,541 --> 00:06:42,402 I love my brothers, but all those big-headed boys, 149 00:06:42,502 --> 00:06:45,482 at least another girl came along. (giggles) 150 00:06:45,582 --> 00:06:48,083 - This is where mom and Joseph slept. 151 00:06:48,183 --> 00:06:50,323 This is their room. 152 00:06:50,423 --> 00:06:51,804 - This was their room. 153 00:06:51,904 --> 00:06:56,284 - This is where our parents slept, in this room. 154 00:06:56,384 --> 00:06:59,945 This is the one bathroom that we all shared. 155 00:07:00,945 --> 00:07:02,285 This little bathroom. 156 00:07:02,385 --> 00:07:03,445 - So what would happen? 157 00:07:03,545 --> 00:07:05,486 - Well, what would happen was- 158 00:07:05,586 --> 00:07:07,086 - Because everybody had to go to school. 159 00:07:07,186 --> 00:07:08,806 - Yeah, we'd take turns using the bathroom 160 00:07:08,906 --> 00:07:10,967 and LaToya would always take too long 161 00:07:11,067 --> 00:07:12,967 and she still does that, okay? 162 00:07:13,067 --> 00:07:14,887 - You've got a lot of nerve, Randy. 163 00:07:14,987 --> 00:07:15,728 (Randy laughs) 164 00:07:15,828 --> 00:07:16,588 - This is your brothers' room. 165 00:07:16,668 --> 00:07:17,468 This is our room, the brothers. 166 00:07:17,548 --> 00:07:19,568 - Oh my gosh, six boys. 167 00:07:19,668 --> 00:07:22,049 - [Randy] And this wall, there was a three tier- 168 00:07:22,149 --> 00:07:23,609 - Bunk beds. - Bunk beds here. 169 00:07:23,709 --> 00:07:25,289 Jackie slept on the bottom. 170 00:07:25,389 --> 00:07:29,050 Marlon, myself and Michael slept in the middle. 171 00:07:29,150 --> 00:07:30,970 And Jermaine and Tito slept at the top. 172 00:07:31,070 --> 00:07:33,291 - The three of you slept in one bunk bed? 173 00:07:33,391 --> 00:07:36,811 - Yeah, one bed and Marlon and Michael used to pee on me. 174 00:07:36,911 --> 00:07:39,572 And, so, I was stuck in here. (laughs) 175 00:07:39,672 --> 00:07:41,672 This is a side window, where 176 00:07:43,352 --> 00:07:47,013 Michael had a little candy store and I was his helper. 177 00:07:47,113 --> 00:07:48,813 And Marlon used to steal our candy. 178 00:07:48,913 --> 00:07:49,653 Right here. 179 00:07:49,753 --> 00:07:50,673 - People would come up to the window? 180 00:07:50,754 --> 00:07:52,214 - Yeah, and we would sell candy out of the... 181 00:07:52,314 --> 00:07:56,695 We were making money 'cause, we'd buy the candy 182 00:07:56,795 --> 00:07:58,215 and try to sell it and Marlon would steal it. (laughs) 183 00:07:58,315 --> 00:08:01,015 So, this window right here. 184 00:08:01,115 --> 00:08:03,656 (Randy and Janet laugh) 185 00:08:03,756 --> 00:08:05,776 There's nothing like memories, 186 00:08:05,876 --> 00:08:07,876 nothing like memories. 187 00:08:08,717 --> 00:08:12,297 - We knew we weren't rich, but we didn't think we were poor. 188 00:08:12,397 --> 00:08:16,058 We'd seen poor people, that don't even have a bite to eat. 189 00:08:16,158 --> 00:08:18,538 But we didn't know that we were only a few plates 190 00:08:18,638 --> 00:08:20,639 from that as well. 191 00:08:21,079 --> 00:08:22,379 (somber music) 192 00:08:22,479 --> 00:08:24,479 - [Janet] My mother worked at Sears, 193 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,100 and my father worked in the steel mill. 194 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,780 He was a hard worker, 195 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,501 and he did whatever it took to feed his children. 196 00:08:35,601 --> 00:08:37,301 He didn't want his kids on the street, 197 00:08:37,401 --> 00:08:39,782 he didn't want his kids doing drugs. 198 00:08:39,882 --> 00:08:41,382 He wanted a better life for us. 199 00:08:41,482 --> 00:08:44,503 (gentle music) 200 00:08:44,603 --> 00:08:45,943 - [Randy] Gary was a tough town. 201 00:08:46,043 --> 00:08:49,423 For a long time, it had the highest murders per capita, 202 00:08:49,523 --> 00:08:51,524 in any city in America. 203 00:08:51,964 --> 00:08:53,944 - [Joe] You had a lot of gangs there, you know, 204 00:08:54,044 --> 00:08:55,385 and I had to make sure 205 00:08:55,485 --> 00:08:58,205 that they didn't get into any type of trouble. 206 00:09:00,205 --> 00:09:04,866 - Underneath your father's bed, he had a guitar. 207 00:09:04,966 --> 00:09:06,866 When your father would go to work, 208 00:09:06,966 --> 00:09:09,187 Tito would sneak in and play his guitar. 209 00:09:09,287 --> 00:09:10,147 - That's what I heard. 210 00:09:10,247 --> 00:09:11,007 (audience cheering and whistling) 211 00:09:11,087 --> 00:09:12,027 - I'm Tito. 212 00:09:12,127 --> 00:09:14,788 That's spelled T-I-T-O. 213 00:09:14,888 --> 00:09:15,668 The initial stands 214 00:09:15,768 --> 00:09:18,628 for the Totally, Incredibly, Talented One. 215 00:09:18,728 --> 00:09:20,069 (audience claps and cheers) (guitar thrumming) 216 00:09:20,169 --> 00:09:21,189 - Come on, man! - Come on! 217 00:09:21,289 --> 00:09:23,569 - One day he broke a string, popped a string. 218 00:09:24,689 --> 00:09:25,830 When your father came home, 219 00:09:25,930 --> 00:09:28,910 he asked Ma, he says, "Who broke my string?" 220 00:09:29,010 --> 00:09:31,671 And she says, "Well before you get upset at Tito, 221 00:09:31,771 --> 00:09:33,111 you should hear him play." 222 00:09:33,211 --> 00:09:34,991 She said, "He's better than you." 223 00:09:35,091 --> 00:09:35,831 - That's what she told him? 224 00:09:35,931 --> 00:09:36,672 - Mm-hmm. 225 00:09:36,772 --> 00:09:38,352 - So, I'm playing and crying, 226 00:09:38,452 --> 00:09:39,752 and then that's when he looked at my mom 227 00:09:39,852 --> 00:09:42,913 and says, "He's really trying to play this thing." 228 00:09:43,013 --> 00:09:45,393 - She says, "And the other ones have been singing 229 00:09:45,493 --> 00:09:46,233 and making harmonies." 230 00:09:46,333 --> 00:09:48,554 She goes, "There is something going on here." 231 00:09:48,654 --> 00:09:51,894 (gentle wistful music) 232 00:09:54,294 --> 00:09:55,955 - [Janet] My mother saw the talent, 233 00:09:56,055 --> 00:09:59,555 but it was my father that was smart enough to say, 234 00:09:59,655 --> 00:10:02,196 they've got to show this to the world. 235 00:10:02,296 --> 00:10:04,376 He saw that as our way out. 236 00:10:06,817 --> 00:10:07,957 - I was always upset 237 00:10:08,057 --> 00:10:11,998 because Joe didn't want to add onto the house 238 00:10:12,098 --> 00:10:13,998 because he'd spent all the money 239 00:10:14,098 --> 00:10:17,198 on instruments for the boys. (laughs) 240 00:10:17,298 --> 00:10:18,839 - We would be rehearsing, 241 00:10:18,939 --> 00:10:21,599 and the neighbours would be telling us to be quiet. 242 00:10:21,699 --> 00:10:23,439 "Making all that noise over there, 243 00:10:23,539 --> 00:10:25,540 you ain't going nowhere." 244 00:10:26,460 --> 00:10:27,320 We'd say, "Just wait and see. 245 00:10:27,420 --> 00:10:28,480 You'll see." 246 00:10:28,580 --> 00:10:29,380 (sirens wailing) (crowd chanting) 247 00:10:29,460 --> 00:10:30,681 - [Crowd] We are the people! 248 00:10:30,781 --> 00:10:32,481 We are united! 249 00:10:32,581 --> 00:10:35,101 We are a nation, that's how we win! 250 00:10:35,942 --> 00:10:37,962 We want freedom! 251 00:10:38,062 --> 00:10:39,202 - [Reverend Al Sharpton] In the late '60s, 252 00:10:39,302 --> 00:10:41,963 America was dealing with racial strife. 253 00:10:42,063 --> 00:10:43,023 (sirens wailing) (fighters grunting) 254 00:10:43,103 --> 00:10:46,083 There was a lot of social confrontation 255 00:10:46,183 --> 00:10:50,284 and blacks and whites lived different lives. 256 00:10:50,384 --> 00:10:51,964 - But I want you to know tonight, 257 00:10:52,064 --> 00:10:54,325 that we, as a people, 258 00:10:54,425 --> 00:10:56,125 will get to the promised land. 259 00:10:56,225 --> 00:10:59,966 ♪ Oh dear lord, I heard it through the grapevine ♪ 260 00:11:00,066 --> 00:11:02,566 - And the whole world was changing. 261 00:11:02,666 --> 00:11:07,607 The culture and the politics became intertwined. 262 00:11:07,707 --> 00:11:08,647 ♪ Heard through the grapevine ♪ 263 00:11:08,747 --> 00:11:10,567 ♪ Honey, honey, yeah ♪ 264 00:11:10,667 --> 00:11:12,368 - We were dancing and listening 265 00:11:12,468 --> 00:11:14,328 to the same music for the first time. 266 00:11:14,428 --> 00:11:16,889 ♪ My baby, ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ 267 00:11:16,989 --> 00:11:21,769 And in that setting of blacks beginning to get control, 268 00:11:21,869 --> 00:11:26,410 Joe Jackson, who was this hard-nosed, stern guy, 269 00:11:26,510 --> 00:11:28,911 he was pushing his boys. 270 00:11:30,391 --> 00:11:32,131 - He saw the light. 271 00:11:32,231 --> 00:11:34,231 One thing led to another. 272 00:11:34,672 --> 00:11:36,612 - And we wound up in Motown. - ♪ You could have told ♪ 273 00:11:36,712 --> 00:11:39,232 ♪ Me yourself ♪ 274 00:11:41,753 --> 00:11:42,853 - [Michael] Motown was interested 275 00:11:42,953 --> 00:11:45,173 in seeing us audition for them 276 00:11:45,273 --> 00:11:47,614 so we went to Berry Gordy's in Detroit. 277 00:11:47,714 --> 00:11:50,654 (dramatic thundering) 278 00:11:50,754 --> 00:11:51,774 - [Producer] All right, here we go. 279 00:11:51,874 --> 00:11:54,355 (indistinct singing) 280 00:11:55,235 --> 00:11:58,096 ♪ I know ♪ 281 00:11:58,196 --> 00:12:03,196 ♪ And bring it back you (indistinct) ♪ 282 00:12:04,397 --> 00:12:07,237 - We auditioned and they loved it. 283 00:12:09,557 --> 00:12:12,298 - The first thing Berry said to us was, 284 00:12:12,398 --> 00:12:15,659 "I'm gonna take your first three songs", he said, 285 00:12:15,759 --> 00:12:17,499 "and I'll make them number one." 286 00:12:17,599 --> 00:12:19,419 (crowd cheering) 287 00:12:19,519 --> 00:12:20,779 - [Announcer] This is the hurricane season, 288 00:12:20,879 --> 00:12:21,780 we have one moving in now. 289 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,140 - [Presenter 6] Five of the nine children 290 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,060 of a former plane operator in Gary, Indiana. 291 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,581 - [Presenter 7] It's the same nerve The Beatles touched, 292 00:12:27,681 --> 00:12:29,941 only this time it's a group of black teenagers. 293 00:12:30,041 --> 00:12:31,341 - [Presenter 8] The mighty, mighty. 294 00:12:31,441 --> 00:12:33,101 - The Jackson 5. - The Jackson 5. 295 00:12:33,201 --> 00:12:33,942 - [Presenter 9] The Jackson 5. 296 00:12:34,042 --> 00:12:35,462 - [Presenter 10] The Jackson 5. 297 00:12:35,562 --> 00:12:39,383 (applause thundering) (crowd cheers) 298 00:12:39,483 --> 00:12:41,223 ♪ Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba ♪ 299 00:12:41,323 --> 00:12:44,143 ♪ Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba ♪ 300 00:12:44,243 --> 00:12:46,264 ♪ You went to school to learn girl ♪ 301 00:12:46,364 --> 00:12:48,104 ♪ Things you never, never knew before ♪ 302 00:12:48,204 --> 00:12:50,905 ♪ Like "I" before "E" except after "C" ♪ 303 00:12:51,005 --> 00:12:52,465 ♪ And why 2 plus 2 makes 4 ♪ 304 00:12:52,565 --> 00:12:53,425 ♪ Now, now, now ♪ 305 00:12:53,525 --> 00:12:54,265 ♪ I'm gonna teach you ♪ 306 00:12:54,365 --> 00:12:55,665 - [Janet] Mother, where did those costumes come from? 307 00:12:55,765 --> 00:12:58,906 - Oh, I made those uniforms for them. 308 00:12:59,006 --> 00:13:00,666 - [Janet] You stitched each and every one? 309 00:13:00,766 --> 00:13:02,506 - Yes. (laughs) 310 00:13:02,606 --> 00:13:05,147 It wasn't hard for me because the boys 311 00:13:05,247 --> 00:13:08,327 was doing something with them that they enjoyed. 312 00:13:09,328 --> 00:13:10,788 ♪ A,B,C ♪ 313 00:13:10,888 --> 00:13:11,628 ♪ It's easy as ♪ 314 00:13:11,728 --> 00:13:12,468 ♪ 1,2,3 ♪ 315 00:13:12,568 --> 00:13:13,788 ♪ As simple as ♪ 316 00:13:13,888 --> 00:13:14,629 ♪ Do re mi ♪ 317 00:13:14,729 --> 00:13:15,469 ♪ A,B,C ♪ 318 00:13:15,569 --> 00:13:17,709 ♪ That's how easy love can be ♪ 319 00:13:17,809 --> 00:13:22,810 (audience clapping) (audience cheering) 320 00:13:24,370 --> 00:13:27,151 (plane whooshing) 321 00:13:27,251 --> 00:13:29,711 (crowd screaming) 322 00:13:29,811 --> 00:13:34,552 - They literally had captured the heart of young America. 323 00:13:34,652 --> 00:13:37,032 Black and white, and all the stops in between. 324 00:13:37,132 --> 00:13:39,513 - [Anchor] Every single and every album 325 00:13:39,613 --> 00:13:40,913 the Jackson 5 has put out 326 00:13:41,013 --> 00:13:43,273 has sold more than a million copies, 327 00:13:43,373 --> 00:13:44,914 and they're the only American group 328 00:13:45,014 --> 00:13:47,334 to have four consecutive number one records. 329 00:13:48,734 --> 00:13:51,835 - When they popped, it resonated with everybody 330 00:13:51,935 --> 00:13:54,075 that I was growing up with in the hood. 331 00:13:54,175 --> 00:13:55,996 We saw ourselves in them. 332 00:13:56,096 --> 00:13:58,476 They were the American dream. 333 00:13:58,576 --> 00:14:01,777 - There was no one like them, they were unicorns. 334 00:14:03,737 --> 00:14:07,077 - My dad knew his boys were gonna do something great. 335 00:14:07,177 --> 00:14:09,838 He took that chance, and he went for it. 336 00:14:09,938 --> 00:14:10,918 - Do you mind if I ask you 337 00:14:11,018 --> 00:14:11,758 how much money you've made? 338 00:14:11,858 --> 00:14:13,479 - No, I don't wanna say right now. 339 00:14:13,579 --> 00:14:15,239 - But you've sold a lot of records? 340 00:14:15,339 --> 00:14:17,339 - A lot of records. - Yeah. 341 00:14:17,939 --> 00:14:21,360 - It would never have happened if it wasn't for my father. 342 00:14:21,460 --> 00:14:23,560 It would have never happened. 343 00:14:23,660 --> 00:14:25,561 There's no way it would have happened. 344 00:14:25,661 --> 00:14:27,721 (gentle music) 345 00:14:27,821 --> 00:14:32,362 - My father was a good-hearted guy, he really protected us. 346 00:14:32,462 --> 00:14:34,702 He went through a lot. 347 00:14:35,582 --> 00:14:37,803 And especially back then, 348 00:14:37,903 --> 00:14:39,483 the racism, the fighting, 349 00:14:39,583 --> 00:14:42,744 people seeing your children as money making machines. 350 00:14:44,024 --> 00:14:46,024 That's me. 351 00:14:46,464 --> 00:14:48,464 Oh, I was young. 352 00:14:49,145 --> 00:14:51,045 - You don't look like that anymore. (laughs) 353 00:14:51,145 --> 00:14:53,285 I'm just joking. 354 00:14:53,385 --> 00:14:55,366 - Brothers. 355 00:14:55,466 --> 00:14:57,926 If that didn't happen, 356 00:14:58,026 --> 00:15:00,006 we wouldn't have had the success 357 00:15:00,106 --> 00:15:02,107 as a family that we've had. 358 00:15:03,947 --> 00:15:06,568 My brothers and sisters would always tell me 359 00:15:06,668 --> 00:15:08,668 why my father was so strict. 360 00:15:11,828 --> 00:15:13,929 He was very tough. 361 00:15:14,029 --> 00:15:16,589 He told us what he wanted us to do, and you did it. 362 00:15:18,790 --> 00:15:23,370 - I decided to deal with the boys as much as I possibly can, 363 00:15:23,470 --> 00:15:26,371 as far as rehearsing them and getting them prepared 364 00:15:26,471 --> 00:15:28,171 to be in show business. 365 00:15:28,271 --> 00:15:29,411 - Do they resent it? 366 00:15:29,511 --> 00:15:30,212 - Yes. 367 00:15:30,312 --> 00:15:31,052 - [Presenter 11] They do? 368 00:15:31,152 --> 00:15:32,372 - Yes. 369 00:15:32,472 --> 00:15:35,152 (dramatic bang) 370 00:15:36,074 --> 00:15:39,215 (dogs barking) 371 00:15:39,315 --> 00:15:41,995 - Your father was really, really tough. 372 00:15:42,875 --> 00:15:45,256 We couldn't understand why somebody could be so mean 373 00:15:45,356 --> 00:15:46,816 and so strict, it was crazy. 374 00:15:46,916 --> 00:15:48,816 We didn't understand his vision, 375 00:15:48,916 --> 00:15:51,897 to keep us out of the gangs, 376 00:15:51,997 --> 00:15:54,257 out of trouble and to get us out of here. 377 00:15:54,357 --> 00:15:56,138 (gentle music) 378 00:15:56,238 --> 00:15:57,298 All of my friends growing up, 379 00:15:57,398 --> 00:15:59,418 they're either dead or in jail, a lot of them. 380 00:15:59,518 --> 00:16:02,319 And he didn't want that for us. 381 00:16:03,599 --> 00:16:05,759 'Cause it didn't have to be this way, 382 00:16:06,719 --> 00:16:08,720 it could've been different, you know. 383 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,821 - Growing up, I feel like I didn't really experience 384 00:16:12,921 --> 00:16:15,061 my father the way I wanted to. 385 00:16:15,161 --> 00:16:18,061 The way I saw other kids experiencing their father. 386 00:16:18,161 --> 00:16:20,822 (crowd cheers) 387 00:16:20,922 --> 00:16:22,062 - [Crowd] We love you. 388 00:16:22,162 --> 00:16:24,162 Love you. 389 00:16:24,763 --> 00:16:25,463 - Hi sweetheart. 390 00:16:25,563 --> 00:16:26,303 - She's loving you. 391 00:16:26,403 --> 00:16:27,543 - Here, hi five! 392 00:16:27,643 --> 00:16:30,504 - You're looking good girl, looking good. 393 00:16:30,604 --> 00:16:32,844 - [Woman] We all love you. 394 00:16:33,724 --> 00:16:34,464 - [Janet] Love you, too. 395 00:16:34,564 --> 00:16:37,205 (gentle music) 396 00:16:39,165 --> 00:16:44,266 I remember stories about my mother allowing 397 00:16:44,366 --> 00:16:47,366 my brothers and sisters to play outside. 398 00:16:48,407 --> 00:16:50,947 And then they'd see my father's car coming down the street 399 00:16:51,047 --> 00:16:55,468 and then run into the house and pick up the instruments 400 00:16:55,567 --> 00:16:58,347 and start playing like they were rehearsing all along. 401 00:16:58,448 --> 00:17:01,729 "Joseph's coming, Joseph's coming!" (laughs) 402 00:17:03,609 --> 00:17:07,270 - [Interviewer] Mr. Jackson, I understand you maintain 403 00:17:07,370 --> 00:17:08,630 a certain discipline 404 00:17:08,730 --> 00:17:11,310 within the group and all its activities. 405 00:17:11,410 --> 00:17:14,311 I wonder if you would describe for us 406 00:17:14,411 --> 00:17:16,231 what rules they are to follow? 407 00:17:16,331 --> 00:17:17,992 - We have a few. 408 00:17:18,092 --> 00:17:20,352 We have to have a few because that's the only time 409 00:17:20,452 --> 00:17:22,452 you can hone a group together. 410 00:17:23,132 --> 00:17:28,133 Via rules and they must be followed to the fullest extent. 411 00:17:28,733 --> 00:17:30,794 Keep them under control, 412 00:17:30,894 --> 00:17:32,894 there's no way you can go wrong. 413 00:17:34,214 --> 00:17:37,515 (gentle music) 414 00:17:37,615 --> 00:17:38,755 - It was because of my father 415 00:17:38,855 --> 00:17:40,855 that I've had the career that I've had. 416 00:17:41,816 --> 00:17:43,396 It was tough at times, 417 00:17:43,496 --> 00:17:46,396 there was nothing easy about it, period. 418 00:17:46,496 --> 00:17:49,637 But when you see where we came from 419 00:17:49,737 --> 00:17:51,737 and see where we are now, 420 00:17:52,777 --> 00:17:54,778 we owe so much to my father. 421 00:17:55,778 --> 00:17:57,118 - Mr. Joseph Jackson. 422 00:17:57,218 --> 00:17:59,919 (crowd cheering) 423 00:18:00,019 --> 00:18:01,319 Did you ever have any visions 424 00:18:01,419 --> 00:18:05,180 that your kids would be this successful? 425 00:18:06,740 --> 00:18:08,760 - I had a vision it would happen, 426 00:18:08,860 --> 00:18:12,401 but you know, it took a lot of rehearsals 427 00:18:12,501 --> 00:18:16,362 and a lot of pushing forward for them to get this far. 428 00:18:16,462 --> 00:18:18,522 And it really was a big push, 429 00:18:18,622 --> 00:18:21,642 a hard struggle, but it paid off. 430 00:18:21,742 --> 00:18:23,743 ("ABC") 431 00:18:25,783 --> 00:18:27,363 - I would like to find out the difference 432 00:18:27,463 --> 00:18:30,524 between Gary, Indiana and living in Los Angeles. 433 00:18:30,624 --> 00:18:31,644 You've moved here now? 434 00:18:31,744 --> 00:18:35,305 - Yes, well it's pretty sunny out here. 435 00:18:36,465 --> 00:18:40,486 - First time seeing palm trees, summer in the wintertime. 436 00:18:40,586 --> 00:18:43,206 I couldn't believe Christmas had no snow. 437 00:18:43,306 --> 00:18:45,406 - They left the two-bedroom house we lived in 438 00:18:45,506 --> 00:18:48,047 and they moved to a whole different lifestyle 439 00:18:48,147 --> 00:18:49,767 and they could afford and do things 440 00:18:49,867 --> 00:18:51,888 that they weren't doing before. 441 00:18:51,988 --> 00:18:53,608 - [Janet] We lived in Encino. 442 00:18:53,708 --> 00:18:55,688 We had about three acres, 443 00:18:55,788 --> 00:18:59,609 an Olympic-sized swimming pool, a badminton court. 444 00:18:59,709 --> 00:19:01,369 ♪ I want you back ♪ 445 00:19:01,469 --> 00:19:04,050 (upbeat music) 446 00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:05,770 - 4, 3, 2, 1. 447 00:19:05,870 --> 00:19:08,250 - We used to have parties all the time. 448 00:19:08,350 --> 00:19:10,411 All the entertainers would be there, 449 00:19:10,511 --> 00:19:13,171 Bing Crosby, Sammy Davis Jr. 450 00:19:13,271 --> 00:19:15,252 You would see Marvin Gaye and Diana Ross, 451 00:19:15,352 --> 00:19:17,252 you know, a lot of the Motown people. 452 00:19:17,352 --> 00:19:21,093 Then you'd see other entertainers and film stars. 453 00:19:21,193 --> 00:19:24,013 And I remember one of the parties that we had, 454 00:19:24,113 --> 00:19:27,934 Bowie came, and I guess to get away from everyone, 455 00:19:28,034 --> 00:19:30,314 he was looking for a little room. 456 00:19:31,194 --> 00:19:33,575 - Michael and I are sitting in one of the other rooms, 457 00:19:33,675 --> 00:19:35,695 away from the party, so Bowie walks in 458 00:19:35,795 --> 00:19:41,796 and he offered us some of what he was doing to get high. 459 00:19:43,676 --> 00:19:46,137 We just looked at each other, we're like, "No." 460 00:19:46,237 --> 00:19:47,097 We didn't know what it was, 461 00:19:47,197 --> 00:19:48,217 we were just like, "No, no thank you." 462 00:19:48,317 --> 00:19:50,578 (laughs) 463 00:19:50,678 --> 00:19:51,698 - [Crew] A speeding. 464 00:19:51,798 --> 00:19:53,258 Interview take one. 465 00:19:53,358 --> 00:19:55,618 - I'm Wende Watt and I grew up in Encino, 466 00:19:55,718 --> 00:19:57,619 next door to the Jackson family. 467 00:19:57,719 --> 00:19:59,139 Encino is a suburb of L.A., 468 00:19:59,239 --> 00:20:01,459 a lot of people moved out there to not be in the city. 469 00:20:01,559 --> 00:20:05,180 It was kind of an affluent, definitely white neighbourhood. 470 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,660 I remember the day they moved in, 471 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,020 they popped over the fence 472 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:10,241 and we just remember the big Afros. 473 00:20:12,761 --> 00:20:15,942 I think the Jacksons were the first black family to move in, 474 00:20:16,042 --> 00:20:19,502 so it was a little controversial at that time. 475 00:20:19,602 --> 00:20:22,203 (gentle music) 476 00:20:23,483 --> 00:20:24,203 - A lot of the people didn't want us, 477 00:20:24,283 --> 00:20:26,424 so they had this petition going around, 478 00:20:26,524 --> 00:20:29,664 so that we wouldn't be in the neighbourhood. 479 00:20:29,764 --> 00:20:31,664 I remember walking down the street 480 00:20:31,764 --> 00:20:33,585 and being called the N word, 481 00:20:33,685 --> 00:20:36,165 someone driving by, yelling it out. 482 00:20:37,045 --> 00:20:39,786 Being told to go back home to your country, 483 00:20:39,886 --> 00:20:42,746 and feeling it at school, with some of the teachers 484 00:20:42,846 --> 00:20:44,307 and some of the kids. 485 00:20:44,407 --> 00:20:45,587 Touching your hair, 486 00:20:45,687 --> 00:20:48,347 'cause your hair was different from theirs. 487 00:20:48,447 --> 00:20:51,548 Or your skin, rubbing it. 488 00:20:51,648 --> 00:20:51,888 (swishing) 489 00:20:52,848 --> 00:20:53,908 It's like, "Does that come off?" 490 00:20:54,008 --> 00:20:55,949 "No, does yours?" 491 00:20:56,049 --> 00:20:58,389 (laughs) 492 00:20:58,489 --> 00:20:59,589 I didn't have a lot of friends. 493 00:20:59,689 --> 00:21:01,270 I had a couple, 494 00:21:01,370 --> 00:21:03,730 but my closest were my brothers and sisters. 495 00:21:05,570 --> 00:21:09,271 - We'll do "Stand", "My Cherie Amour", 496 00:21:09,371 --> 00:21:11,891 "I Want You Back" then "Yesterday". 497 00:21:12,851 --> 00:21:14,512 Okay, let's go, from the top. 498 00:21:14,612 --> 00:21:15,832 (upbeat music) 499 00:21:15,932 --> 00:21:19,353 ♪ La, la, la, la, na, na, na, na, na ♪ 500 00:21:19,453 --> 00:21:21,033 - [Janet] We had a studio at home, 501 00:21:21,133 --> 00:21:21,913 and I would go in there 502 00:21:22,013 --> 00:21:24,774 and just watch my brothers rehearse all the time. 503 00:21:27,694 --> 00:21:30,154 ♪ Sing, sing, sing it again ♪ 504 00:21:30,254 --> 00:21:31,155 - [Janet] Everything I could, 505 00:21:31,255 --> 00:21:33,115 I tried to be in the middle of it with my brothers and, 506 00:21:33,215 --> 00:21:36,716 they always had fun and I loved being around them. 507 00:21:36,816 --> 00:21:38,676 ♪ Just, just one more time ♪ 508 00:21:38,776 --> 00:21:41,196 - [Janet] So, when they had to work and travel, 509 00:21:41,296 --> 00:21:43,397 I missed them. 510 00:21:45,417 --> 00:21:50,278 - I just felt...yeah. 511 00:21:50,378 --> 00:21:52,958 Where do, where do I fit in? 512 00:21:53,058 --> 00:21:54,439 (gentle music) 513 00:21:54,539 --> 00:21:57,379 (plane whooshing) 514 00:21:58,819 --> 00:22:01,580 - Hey, how are you doing, Marlon? 515 00:22:03,340 --> 00:22:04,440 - [Tito] There was always something to do 516 00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:06,161 once we had made it. 517 00:22:06,261 --> 00:22:07,721 Whether there was a recording session, 518 00:22:07,821 --> 00:22:11,401 or picture sessions or rehearsals, or on tour. 519 00:22:11,501 --> 00:22:13,002 - [Boy] Okay. 520 00:22:13,102 --> 00:22:15,102 - [Tito] My father kept us busy. 521 00:22:16,102 --> 00:22:19,343 If we got a weekend to play, that was a big thing. 522 00:22:27,024 --> 00:22:28,884 - You just do it. 523 00:22:28,984 --> 00:22:30,985 You know, you do what you're told. 524 00:22:32,225 --> 00:22:34,225 You know, you do it. 525 00:22:35,025 --> 00:22:36,166 (audience clapping) 526 00:22:36,266 --> 00:22:37,446 - [Presenter 12] I wanted to ask you, 527 00:22:37,546 --> 00:22:40,806 do you have to ever take any of them over your knee? 528 00:22:40,906 --> 00:22:42,967 Or use any other methods of disciplining 529 00:22:43,067 --> 00:22:45,487 this lively group you've got here? 530 00:22:45,587 --> 00:22:48,488 - I have a way you know like when Randy don't do right, 531 00:22:48,588 --> 00:22:50,568 we make him take out all the garbage or something. 532 00:22:50,668 --> 00:22:51,768 (laughing) 533 00:22:51,868 --> 00:22:53,689 - No that's fair. 534 00:22:53,789 --> 00:22:55,009 Yeah, but what about Michael, if... 535 00:22:55,109 --> 00:22:57,249 Michael always does right? 536 00:22:57,349 --> 00:22:58,089 Is he always... 537 00:22:58,189 --> 00:22:58,930 - No, not all the time. 538 00:22:59,030 --> 00:22:59,770 You know Michael, 539 00:22:59,870 --> 00:23:02,690 he likes sleep and you know he's the lead singer. 540 00:23:02,790 --> 00:23:05,931 The way we discipline Michael is sort of like, 541 00:23:06,031 --> 00:23:10,051 we cut down on his allowance a little bit. - Yeah. 542 00:23:10,151 --> 00:23:12,132 - Yeah, we don't give him as much money to spend. 543 00:23:12,232 --> 00:23:13,812 (laughing) 544 00:23:13,912 --> 00:23:15,344 (dramatic gonging) 545 00:23:15,354 --> 00:23:20,355 ("When I Think Of You") (upbeat music) 546 00:23:25,956 --> 00:23:26,696 - Wow! 547 00:23:26,796 --> 00:23:28,396 So different. 548 00:23:28,995 --> 00:23:30,696 It brings back memories. 549 00:23:30,797 --> 00:23:35,557 Mike, Randy and myself, we'd go to Circus Circus. 550 00:23:36,798 --> 00:23:38,098 That was it. 551 00:23:38,197 --> 00:23:41,157 They'd have a trapeze artist in the middle of the floor 552 00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:45,438 or we'd walk in there and go to our favourite games. 553 00:23:46,799 --> 00:23:48,300 But I loved it. 554 00:23:48,399 --> 00:23:50,940 This is where I started when I was seven. 555 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,040 My first time on any stage was here. 556 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,701 We would perform two, three weeks at a time 557 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,981 doing double shows, two shows a night, 558 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:04,432 one at eight and one at, I think, 10:30. 559 00:24:04,442 --> 00:24:07,342 And there were nights where I had to take a nap, 560 00:24:07,443 --> 00:24:08,423 which I hated. 561 00:24:08,522 --> 00:24:10,522 That's a lot for a seven-year-old. 562 00:24:12,283 --> 00:24:14,904 - It's a long way from Gary, Indiana to the big time. 563 00:24:15,003 --> 00:24:15,864 During those early days, 564 00:24:15,964 --> 00:24:19,065 they were earning maybe on a good week $300 a week. 565 00:24:19,165 --> 00:24:20,544 Today, are you ready for this? 566 00:24:20,645 --> 00:24:23,224 They're earning as much as $100,000 a week. 567 00:24:23,325 --> 00:24:25,546 - That's my father again. 568 00:24:25,646 --> 00:24:27,786 He saw an opportunity to get his other kids 569 00:24:27,886 --> 00:24:30,666 through the door you know, and he took advantage of it. 570 00:24:30,767 --> 00:24:33,226 If he hadn't done that, we might not have Janet Jackson. 571 00:24:33,327 --> 00:24:34,627 (audience clapping) 572 00:24:34,726 --> 00:24:37,308 - Right now, I'd like to introduce my youngest sister, 573 00:24:37,407 --> 00:24:38,788 she's been in the act ever since 574 00:24:38,887 --> 00:24:41,348 we started our Las Vegas performance. 575 00:24:41,448 --> 00:24:44,229 Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to introduce Janet Jackson. 576 00:24:44,329 --> 00:24:46,628 - Yeah! - Come on out, Janet. 577 00:24:46,729 --> 00:24:49,790 - I don't ever remember being asked. 578 00:24:49,889 --> 00:24:54,031 I just remember being put into it. 579 00:24:54,130 --> 00:24:55,151 (audience clapping) 580 00:24:55,251 --> 00:24:57,931 - Did you know you were gonna be in the act? 581 00:24:59,051 --> 00:25:04,232 - They said that they were doing a show, a nightclub act. 582 00:25:04,331 --> 00:25:06,153 - And they picked you because you were around the house? 583 00:25:06,252 --> 00:25:06,993 - Yeah. 584 00:25:07,092 --> 00:25:08,633 - Maybe you're gonna get your own group someday huh? 585 00:25:08,733 --> 00:25:10,433 Cut these guys out? 586 00:25:10,532 --> 00:25:11,233 - Yeah. 587 00:25:11,334 --> 00:25:12,394 (audience laughs) 588 00:25:12,493 --> 00:25:14,873 - Are you ready to sing your big number with Randy? 589 00:25:14,973 --> 00:25:15,674 - Yes. 590 00:25:15,773 --> 00:25:16,675 - Oh, I can't wait. 591 00:25:16,774 --> 00:25:18,474 Here's Janet and Randy. 592 00:25:18,575 --> 00:25:21,754 Or Randy and Janet! (audience clapping) 593 00:25:21,855 --> 00:25:22,596 (upbeat music) 594 00:25:22,695 --> 00:25:25,116 - [Janet] Thank you. 595 00:25:25,215 --> 00:25:26,636 ♪ And the beat goes on ♪ 596 00:25:26,735 --> 00:25:27,715 ♪ And the beat goes on ♪ 597 00:25:27,816 --> 00:25:29,637 ♪ And the beat goes on ♪ 598 00:25:29,736 --> 00:25:32,357 ♪ And the beat goes on ♪ 599 00:25:32,456 --> 00:25:36,038 ♪ Just keep finding the rhythm through the rain ♪ 600 00:25:36,137 --> 00:25:40,438 - I remember my first night, oh my God, I was nervous. 601 00:25:40,539 --> 00:25:41,299 I remember Randy telling me, 602 00:25:41,378 --> 00:25:43,118 "After the first show you'll be fine." 603 00:25:43,219 --> 00:25:44,839 - Take it away, Janet! 604 00:25:44,938 --> 00:25:49,940 ♪ Charleston was once the rage, da, da, da ♪ 605 00:25:51,460 --> 00:25:55,941 ♪ History has turned the page, da, da, aah ♪ 606 00:25:57,661 --> 00:25:59,882 - [Janet] I grew up on musicals. 607 00:25:59,982 --> 00:26:01,882 That was it for me. 608 00:26:01,982 --> 00:26:05,683 Watching musicals where literally dance 609 00:26:05,782 --> 00:26:08,022 and music came together on the screen. 610 00:26:09,062 --> 00:26:10,404 ♪ And the beat goes on ♪ 611 00:26:10,503 --> 00:26:11,763 ♪ And the beat goes on ♪ 612 00:26:11,864 --> 00:26:13,483 ♪ And the beat goes on ♪ 613 00:26:13,584 --> 00:26:14,924 ♪ And the beat goes on ♪ 614 00:26:15,023 --> 00:26:16,805 ♪ And the beat goes on ♪ 615 00:26:16,905 --> 00:26:18,244 ♪ And the beat goes on ♪ 616 00:26:18,345 --> 00:26:21,646 ♪ And the beat goes on ♪ 617 00:26:21,745 --> 00:26:22,846 Hey! 618 00:26:22,945 --> 00:26:24,406 (audience claps) 619 00:26:24,505 --> 00:26:27,767 (upbeat music) 620 00:26:27,867 --> 00:26:30,087 (singers vocalising) 621 00:26:30,186 --> 00:26:31,767 - I've been thinking. 622 00:26:31,867 --> 00:26:33,288 - Wow, a TV first! 623 00:26:33,387 --> 00:26:34,608 (audience laughs) 624 00:26:34,707 --> 00:26:36,288 After the first show I was fine, 625 00:26:36,387 --> 00:26:38,387 I was never nervous again. 626 00:26:39,348 --> 00:26:41,329 Hey Tito, there's two girls backstage 627 00:26:41,428 --> 00:26:42,529 who wanna talk to you. 628 00:26:42,628 --> 00:26:43,368 - [Tito] Hey! 629 00:26:43,469 --> 00:26:44,248 What did I tell ya'll? 630 00:26:44,348 --> 00:26:45,050 - Yeah, they want you 631 00:26:45,149 --> 00:26:47,530 to introduce them to, Michael. 632 00:26:47,629 --> 00:26:49,970 (audience laughs) 633 00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:52,691 None of us had a normal childhood. 634 00:26:52,791 --> 00:26:55,411 My friends, they went to gymnastics class 635 00:26:55,511 --> 00:26:57,851 or were part of the Girl Scouts or Brownies 636 00:26:57,952 --> 00:26:59,091 and I wanted to do those things. 637 00:26:59,192 --> 00:27:01,452 - Hi there, big fella. 638 00:27:01,551 --> 00:27:03,812 My name is Mae West. 639 00:27:03,913 --> 00:27:05,332 But, yet, we had to go to work. 640 00:27:05,433 --> 00:27:07,453 (dramatic music) 641 00:27:07,552 --> 00:27:08,493 ♪ Hey ♪ 642 00:27:08,594 --> 00:27:11,374 (audience claps) 643 00:27:11,473 --> 00:27:13,934 - We always got a standing ovation. 644 00:27:14,033 --> 00:27:15,815 At one point I thought oh, we must be good! 645 00:27:15,915 --> 00:27:19,534 It never went to my head I thought oh we must be good. 646 00:27:19,635 --> 00:27:23,056 Then I started thinking, it dawned upon me oh we're babies. 647 00:27:23,156 --> 00:27:24,975 That's why they're doing this for us, 648 00:27:25,076 --> 00:27:28,057 they're really being supportive, because remember, 649 00:27:28,156 --> 00:27:31,416 we were the only kids performing here, in Vegas. 650 00:27:31,517 --> 00:27:34,018 There weren't other kids performing here, 651 00:27:34,118 --> 00:27:36,278 and it wasn't really family-oriented. 652 00:27:39,239 --> 00:27:42,138 In between our show Mike, Randy and myself, 653 00:27:42,239 --> 00:27:44,240 we'd be looking for trouble. 654 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,940 (gentle music) 655 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,901 We'd go where the lighting guys and the lighting rig was. 656 00:27:50,001 --> 00:27:52,781 And we'd watch the women in the huge feathers 657 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,341 and all the rhinestone glittery outfits, 658 00:27:55,442 --> 00:27:57,442 and they were completely topless. 659 00:27:59,601 --> 00:28:01,603 But that was my life. 660 00:28:02,562 --> 00:28:03,983 Not long after that, 661 00:28:04,082 --> 00:28:07,864 I remember being told that there was a television show, 662 00:28:07,964 --> 00:28:10,904 which I was familiar with, "Good Times", 663 00:28:11,003 --> 00:28:14,024 and there was a role for a little girl. 664 00:28:14,125 --> 00:28:16,125 My father wanted me to audition. 665 00:28:17,484 --> 00:28:21,106 - Tell me about Janet Jackson and "Good Times". 666 00:28:21,205 --> 00:28:23,106 - Oh, my character's Penny. 667 00:28:23,205 --> 00:28:24,666 I'm gonna be on "Good Times" soon. 668 00:28:24,765 --> 00:28:25,507 - [Host] I know. 669 00:28:25,607 --> 00:28:26,347 Are you excited about it? 670 00:28:26,446 --> 00:28:27,827 - Yes, it's a lot of fun. 671 00:28:27,926 --> 00:28:28,946 ♪ Good times ♪ 672 00:28:29,047 --> 00:28:30,627 ♪ Any time you need a payment ♪ 673 00:28:30,728 --> 00:28:31,788 ♪ Good time ♪ 674 00:28:31,887 --> 00:28:32,988 - Hi. 675 00:28:33,088 --> 00:28:34,108 - Is he here? (audience applauds) 676 00:28:34,207 --> 00:28:35,187 - Is who here? 677 00:28:35,288 --> 00:28:39,829 - I don't know his name but he's tall, skinny and beautiful. 678 00:28:39,928 --> 00:28:42,990 - Hold on now, tall and skinny we got, but beautiful... 679 00:28:43,089 --> 00:28:44,310 (audience laughs) 680 00:28:44,409 --> 00:28:48,550 - I auditioned Janet for a role in "Good Times". 681 00:28:48,651 --> 00:28:51,431 To meet her is to know instantly, 682 00:28:51,531 --> 00:28:54,070 that there's a presence in the room. 683 00:28:54,171 --> 00:28:56,972 The talent was abundant and clear. 684 00:28:57,972 --> 00:29:00,031 - You disobeyed me, didn't you? 685 00:29:00,132 --> 00:29:01,233 - Yes, mama. 686 00:29:01,332 --> 00:29:02,713 (somber music) 687 00:29:02,812 --> 00:29:06,634 - Janet played Penny, who was an abused kid. 688 00:29:06,733 --> 00:29:07,834 - Please mama, I promise, 689 00:29:07,934 --> 00:29:11,313 I won't be a bad girl anymore, please. 690 00:29:11,414 --> 00:29:12,355 I won't be a bad girl anymore. 691 00:29:12,454 --> 00:29:16,195 - That required a serious performer. 692 00:29:16,294 --> 00:29:17,034 - Oh no! 693 00:29:17,135 --> 00:29:17,876 My God Penny what... 694 00:29:17,975 --> 00:29:19,276 - [Audience] Aw! 695 00:29:19,376 --> 00:29:22,195 - Penny I know that you like to pretend, 696 00:29:22,296 --> 00:29:25,377 but I want you to tell me the truth, okay? Who burned you? 697 00:29:26,696 --> 00:29:27,436 Honey, who beat you up? 698 00:29:27,537 --> 00:29:29,518 Who did those terrible things to you? 699 00:29:29,618 --> 00:29:34,618 - She could play that troubled young woman. 700 00:29:34,937 --> 00:29:36,358 (somber music) 701 00:29:36,459 --> 00:29:38,459 Who did this? 702 00:29:40,259 --> 00:29:42,500 - My parents disciplined all of us. 703 00:29:43,419 --> 00:29:47,000 And that's how we as a people we raised our kids, 704 00:29:47,099 --> 00:29:50,201 but you turn around and you give them love to show this is, 705 00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:52,300 I love you I'm here for you. 706 00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,462 Discipline without love is tyranny 707 00:29:56,622 --> 00:29:58,622 and tyrants they were not. 708 00:29:59,223 --> 00:30:01,842 They just loved us and wanted us to be the best 709 00:30:01,943 --> 00:30:03,943 that we could possibly be. 710 00:30:04,423 --> 00:30:06,424 Obviously, it worked. 711 00:30:08,664 --> 00:30:10,604 We had a studio at home. 712 00:30:10,704 --> 00:30:12,645 Any time of day or night, you'd run in the studio 713 00:30:12,744 --> 00:30:14,744 and you'd lay an idea down. 714 00:30:15,625 --> 00:30:17,526 And that's what I did one day for this song 715 00:30:17,626 --> 00:30:20,526 that I had in my head. 716 00:30:20,626 --> 00:30:22,827 (humming) 717 00:30:25,706 --> 00:30:28,407 It went like that, something like that. 718 00:30:28,508 --> 00:30:32,687 Like an idiot, I left the reel on the machine. 719 00:30:32,788 --> 00:30:35,408 And I came home from school, and sure enough, 720 00:30:35,509 --> 00:30:37,688 my father, Randy and Mike were there. 721 00:30:37,789 --> 00:30:38,928 And they were listening to it 722 00:30:39,029 --> 00:30:42,829 and that's when my father said to me, "I want you to sing." 723 00:30:47,390 --> 00:30:49,570 And I said, "No, no, no, no." 724 00:30:49,671 --> 00:30:52,311 I wanted to go to college and study business law. 725 00:30:53,192 --> 00:30:56,311 He said that's not gonna happen, basically, in a nutshell. 726 00:30:57,432 --> 00:31:01,572 What parent doesn't want you to go to college? (laughs) 727 00:31:01,673 --> 00:31:04,134 But he said, "No, you're gonna sing." 728 00:31:04,233 --> 00:31:07,233 (suspenseful music) 729 00:31:08,194 --> 00:31:08,934 Not long after that, 730 00:31:09,033 --> 00:31:12,855 I had a meeting at A&M and signed my recording contract. 731 00:31:12,954 --> 00:31:15,556 (somber music) 732 00:31:19,156 --> 00:31:23,736 I would have liked to have experienced staying at a dorm, 733 00:31:23,837 --> 00:31:25,537 being around other kids. 734 00:31:25,637 --> 00:31:27,978 But I was very, very naive. 735 00:31:28,078 --> 00:31:30,078 Very, very shy. 736 00:31:30,397 --> 00:31:32,397 Not worldly at all. 737 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:38,698 - I used to work for Mr. Jackson, at his production office, 738 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,879 when he managed the brothers, as well as Janet. 739 00:31:44,599 --> 00:31:47,380 The brothers had fired Mr. Jackson, 740 00:31:47,481 --> 00:31:49,820 so I think he figured, okay, 741 00:31:49,921 --> 00:31:52,662 I can make Janet the bigger star. 742 00:31:52,762 --> 00:31:56,782 Mr. Jackson was able to then turn all his energy into Janet. 743 00:31:56,883 --> 00:31:58,782 He would always say, 744 00:31:58,883 --> 00:32:00,863 "Janet's gonna be the biggest superstar. 745 00:32:00,963 --> 00:32:02,704 You only have to show Janet once, 746 00:32:02,803 --> 00:32:04,063 she's gonna be big as Michael 747 00:32:04,164 --> 00:32:06,164 or even bigger than Michael." 748 00:32:07,563 --> 00:32:09,185 - My father was in charge of my life, 749 00:32:09,284 --> 00:32:11,305 my career and he was my manager. 750 00:32:11,405 --> 00:32:12,865 (upbeat music) 751 00:32:16,326 --> 00:32:17,286 - [Janet] It was really about their albums, 752 00:32:17,366 --> 00:32:19,666 the kind of music that they wanted me to make. 753 00:32:19,765 --> 00:32:23,067 ♪ You don't stand another chance ♪ 754 00:32:23,166 --> 00:32:25,747 - I didn't write any of the material, 755 00:32:25,847 --> 00:32:27,707 it was just a matter of going to the studio, 756 00:32:27,808 --> 00:32:30,647 doing what they wanted you to do and then you leave. 757 00:32:34,089 --> 00:32:36,469 I didn't want my last name to be on the album. 758 00:32:36,569 --> 00:32:38,990 I just wanted to go by my first name. 759 00:32:39,089 --> 00:32:40,669 I wanted them to accept me for me, 760 00:32:40,770 --> 00:32:42,909 to be interested in this for me, 761 00:32:43,010 --> 00:32:44,630 not because I was the brother or sister of... 762 00:32:44,731 --> 00:32:49,191 But that's everything that this industry takes advantage of, 763 00:32:49,291 --> 00:32:52,331 and they wanna play on that, and I didn't want that. 764 00:32:53,172 --> 00:32:55,232 ♪ Dream Street ♪ 765 00:32:55,331 --> 00:32:57,433 ♪ Dream street ♪ 766 00:32:57,532 --> 00:32:58,512 ♪ Will it all come true ♪ 767 00:32:58,613 --> 00:33:01,874 ♪ Will it all just fade away ♪ 768 00:33:01,973 --> 00:33:03,434 ♪ Dream street ♪ 769 00:33:03,533 --> 00:33:05,553 ♪ Dream street ♪ 770 00:33:05,654 --> 00:33:07,635 ♪ Well, it's hard to find ♪ (audience claps and cheers) 771 00:33:07,734 --> 00:33:11,675 - Did you have any idea, when you were a little girl 772 00:33:11,774 --> 00:33:14,235 that you would turn out to be as pretty as you are? 773 00:33:14,336 --> 00:33:17,475 (audience claps) (cheering) 774 00:33:17,576 --> 00:33:18,356 How old are you? 775 00:33:18,455 --> 00:33:19,317 - 18. 776 00:33:19,416 --> 00:33:20,956 - Now that you're getting on in years, 777 00:33:21,057 --> 00:33:22,137 are you going to continue your education? 778 00:33:22,216 --> 00:33:25,278 - Yes, I wanna go to college, I wanna go to Pepperdine. 779 00:33:25,377 --> 00:33:26,118 - [Presenter 13] Really? 780 00:33:26,217 --> 00:33:26,917 - Yeah. 781 00:33:27,018 --> 00:33:28,758 - This mind boggles me, you're not gonna do this 782 00:33:28,858 --> 00:33:29,598 the rest of your life? 783 00:33:29,697 --> 00:33:33,118 - I'd have to try to do both at the same time. 784 00:33:33,219 --> 00:33:33,959 - Really? 785 00:33:34,059 --> 00:33:35,319 - Mm-hmm. 786 00:33:35,418 --> 00:33:37,280 At the time, I didn't understand 787 00:33:37,379 --> 00:33:40,079 the vision my father had for me. 788 00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:42,180 To be a musician. 789 00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:44,320 - I think we still have a little bit of work to do, 790 00:33:44,421 --> 00:33:46,041 it's a little bit too orange in here. 791 00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:46,880 - Yeah. 792 00:33:46,981 --> 00:33:49,601 Even the cover of the album, he chose, 793 00:33:49,701 --> 00:33:52,142 and I didn't want that as the cover of the album. 794 00:33:54,221 --> 00:33:55,922 So, it was a lot of that. 795 00:33:56,022 --> 00:33:58,343 (somber music) 796 00:33:59,542 --> 00:34:00,643 They weren't the success 797 00:34:00,743 --> 00:34:02,444 that I think everyone wanted them to be, 798 00:34:02,543 --> 00:34:04,723 this massive success. 799 00:34:04,824 --> 00:34:06,944 They didn't sell millions of copies. 800 00:34:08,024 --> 00:34:10,025 - Are you disappointed? 801 00:34:10,505 --> 00:34:12,506 - Am I disappointed? 802 00:34:13,466 --> 00:34:14,726 I guess you could say in a way, 803 00:34:14,825 --> 00:34:18,807 but I'm very pleased with what it has been done. 804 00:34:18,907 --> 00:34:20,287 I think I have to start doing things 805 00:34:20,387 --> 00:34:25,307 on my own moving up, and being independent. 806 00:34:27,468 --> 00:34:28,188 - [Interviewer] It seems like 807 00:34:28,267 --> 00:34:30,089 you're on the verge of considering a lot of new things. 808 00:34:30,189 --> 00:34:32,849 - Yeah, I am on the verge of considering 809 00:34:32,949 --> 00:34:35,769 a lot of new things. 810 00:34:35,870 --> 00:34:38,070 I wanted to be able to stand on my own feet. 811 00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:42,450 And at that time, I felt that there was no other way 812 00:34:42,551 --> 00:34:44,671 I would be able to kind of get my own life, 813 00:34:47,031 --> 00:34:48,171 unless I got married. 814 00:34:48,272 --> 00:34:51,272 (suspenseful music) 815 00:34:55,574 --> 00:34:58,554 - Okay now, let's talk about the type of lady that you like. 816 00:34:58,653 --> 00:35:02,153 - I like a lady that has a soft heart 817 00:35:02,255 --> 00:35:05,635 and is willing to understand anything no matter what 818 00:35:05,735 --> 00:35:06,715 and stay with me always. 819 00:35:06,815 --> 00:35:08,075 - Are you gonna put a lot of pressure on her 820 00:35:08,175 --> 00:35:09,155 to be understanding? 821 00:35:09,257 --> 00:35:12,916 - No, it has to be inside of her or else she has to go, 822 00:35:13,016 --> 00:35:14,276 because that's the way I am. 823 00:35:14,376 --> 00:35:16,478 (upbeat disco music) 824 00:35:16,577 --> 00:35:18,077 ♪ When it feels like ♪ 825 00:35:18,177 --> 00:35:20,316 ♪ The world is on your shoulders ♪ 826 00:35:20,418 --> 00:35:24,117 - James DeBarge and I, we were friends at a very young age. 827 00:35:24,219 --> 00:35:26,959 He was from a musical family like mine. 828 00:35:27,059 --> 00:35:28,479 ♪ Step out into the street ♪ 829 00:35:28,579 --> 00:35:29,758 ♪ Where all of the action ♪ 830 00:35:29,860 --> 00:35:32,680 - When I first met Janet, it was at Soul Train. 831 00:35:32,780 --> 00:35:35,081 ♪ To the beat of the rhythm of the night ♪ 832 00:35:35,180 --> 00:35:36,880 ♪ Dance until the morning light ♪ 833 00:35:36,979 --> 00:35:37,999 - It was our debut, 834 00:35:38,101 --> 00:35:39,760 and she was there with her brother, Jermaine 835 00:35:39,862 --> 00:35:41,441 and her sister, LaToya. 836 00:35:41,541 --> 00:35:43,541 Of course, I thought she was cute. 837 00:35:44,421 --> 00:35:49,421 She gave me a look that was a shy, innocent look 838 00:35:49,782 --> 00:35:52,643 and even I was just as shy as she was. 839 00:35:52,742 --> 00:35:55,844 It probably didn't help the relationship move any faster. 840 00:35:55,943 --> 00:35:57,364 (laughing) 841 00:35:57,463 --> 00:35:59,463 - We used to talk on the phone as kids. 842 00:36:00,584 --> 00:36:02,124 Way before. 843 00:36:02,226 --> 00:36:06,124 Because his brother was very much so attracted 844 00:36:06,226 --> 00:36:08,206 to my sister Toya, 845 00:36:08,306 --> 00:36:13,306 so that's how I wound up getting to know James. 846 00:36:15,066 --> 00:36:17,708 - With her, I think once she feels safe with someone, 847 00:36:19,387 --> 00:36:22,409 which was me at the time, she would share some things. 848 00:36:22,508 --> 00:36:24,787 But that took us getting to know each other 849 00:36:26,028 --> 00:36:30,528 and her being able to trust me. (laughs) 850 00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:33,010 I don't know why anyone would trust me. (laughs) 851 00:36:33,110 --> 00:36:34,729 No. 852 00:36:34,831 --> 00:36:38,331 ♪ Without a song, the day would never end ♪ 853 00:36:38,431 --> 00:36:41,092 ♪ Without a song, a man ♪ 854 00:36:41,191 --> 00:36:44,112 (crowd chattering) 855 00:36:47,231 --> 00:36:50,074 - [Janet] I'd started dating him when I was 16. 856 00:36:51,034 --> 00:36:53,432 He was a sweet guy, he was a nice guy. 857 00:36:54,472 --> 00:36:56,735 - It wasn't easy for us to see each other being 858 00:36:56,834 --> 00:37:00,454 that she was very well protected, you know, by her mom and dad. 859 00:37:00,554 --> 00:37:03,335 You know, and who is this guy? What is he into? 860 00:37:03,434 --> 00:37:04,695 You know, does he have good intentions? 861 00:37:04,795 --> 00:37:06,795 Does he really love you? 862 00:37:07,796 --> 00:37:09,536 We would sneak and see each other, 863 00:37:09,635 --> 00:37:12,376 I just had to be with her all the time. 864 00:37:12,476 --> 00:37:16,017 I think we were just so both in love with each other, 865 00:37:16,117 --> 00:37:18,818 that we began to block everyone else out. 866 00:37:18,918 --> 00:37:21,858 (soft romantic music) 867 00:37:21,958 --> 00:37:24,117 - James and I decided to get married. 868 00:37:24,959 --> 00:37:27,258 My sister Toya said, "If that's what you want to do, 869 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,338 then you should do it." 870 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,380 So, I did. 871 00:37:31,479 --> 00:37:33,479 In secret. 872 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,780 - When I met James, 873 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,621 I think Janet and James were married, nobody knew. 874 00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:39,901 Did Janet tell you about that part? 875 00:37:40,001 --> 00:37:41,700 - [Producer] What was the reaction like 876 00:37:41,802 --> 00:37:43,222 from your mum and dad? 877 00:37:43,322 --> 00:37:44,023 What was their reaction? 878 00:37:44,122 --> 00:37:46,063 - They was shocked. 879 00:37:46,162 --> 00:37:49,543 I vaguely remember, "What?! Did you know Janet got married?!" 880 00:37:49,643 --> 00:37:51,643 Yes. 881 00:37:52,324 --> 00:37:54,584 - I know what young love feels like, you know? 882 00:37:54,684 --> 00:37:55,624 And that whole thing, 883 00:37:55,724 --> 00:37:57,704 so it didn't bother me at all 884 00:37:57,804 --> 00:38:02,805 until you know, I started learning things that wasn't cool. 885 00:38:04,445 --> 00:38:06,345 (gentle music) 886 00:38:06,447 --> 00:38:11,345 - I remember going to Michigan, to Grand Rapids. 887 00:38:11,447 --> 00:38:16,447 And his uncle, he was a pastor and he married us. 888 00:38:17,969 --> 00:38:21,068 I even remember putting a ring on my finger 889 00:38:21,168 --> 00:38:23,168 and putting it on the wrong finger. 890 00:38:26,409 --> 00:38:29,309 When we got married and we came back to the hotel, he said, 891 00:38:29,411 --> 00:38:31,411 "Okay, I'll be right back." 892 00:38:32,530 --> 00:38:34,510 And I'm sitting in the hotel room, 893 00:38:34,610 --> 00:38:39,612 in Grand Rapids, Michigan by myself, just 18. 894 00:38:40,092 --> 00:38:43,691 And for three hours, he never came back. 895 00:38:45,612 --> 00:38:47,514 I don't know, maybe it's this person in me 896 00:38:47,613 --> 00:38:49,313 that wants to help people? 897 00:38:49,412 --> 00:38:51,793 Subconsciously, when it comes to relationships, 898 00:38:51,893 --> 00:38:55,213 somehow, I'm attracted to people that use drugs. 899 00:38:57,693 --> 00:38:59,956 (upbeat music) 900 00:39:00,055 --> 00:39:01,115 ♪ Fame ♪ 901 00:39:01,215 --> 00:39:04,717 ♪ I'm gonna live forever ♪ 902 00:39:04,816 --> 00:39:07,237 ♪ I'm gonna learn how to fly ♪ 903 00:39:07,336 --> 00:39:08,036 ♪ High ♪ 904 00:39:08,135 --> 00:39:09,996 - My father wanted me to join "Fame". 905 00:39:10,095 --> 00:39:11,757 Why does everyone in this school treat me 906 00:39:11,856 --> 00:39:13,157 like I'm invisible? 907 00:39:13,257 --> 00:39:15,438 I mean what does it take around here to get noticed? 908 00:39:15,537 --> 00:39:17,798 I didn't wanna be on "Fame", I didn't want to do the show. 909 00:39:17,898 --> 00:39:20,077 The kids were great, but I just didn't, 910 00:39:20,179 --> 00:39:21,518 I didn't wanna do that. 911 00:39:21,617 --> 00:39:23,619 I did it for my father. 912 00:39:24,059 --> 00:39:25,159 - Okay people. 913 00:39:25,258 --> 00:39:28,039 - Janet was, when I first met her, 914 00:39:28,141 --> 00:39:31,760 she was very young, and she was so sassy. 915 00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:33,601 - Did I get the part or anything? 916 00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:36,121 - Ah sweetheart, that was lovely. 917 00:39:36,220 --> 00:39:37,401 - Yeah. - Thank you very much. 918 00:39:37,501 --> 00:39:38,401 - Fine, thank you. 919 00:39:38,501 --> 00:39:39,561 - Would you like to hear something else? 920 00:39:39,661 --> 00:39:41,282 I've got a couple of other songs I could.. 921 00:39:41,382 --> 00:39:44,282 - Miss Hewitt, do we have to get the hook? 922 00:39:44,382 --> 00:39:46,242 - All you had to do was say so. 923 00:39:46,344 --> 00:39:48,483 - She came into "Fame" and it was evident 924 00:39:48,583 --> 00:39:51,523 that she had something that was very special, 925 00:39:51,623 --> 00:39:53,565 but Janet was very quiet. 926 00:39:53,664 --> 00:39:57,965 She was not blossoming as she could. 927 00:39:58,065 --> 00:39:59,525 - Honey, you can't let 928 00:39:59,624 --> 00:40:02,405 what one person says about you get you down. 929 00:40:02,505 --> 00:40:05,325 - Miss Grant, I don't know if I can. 930 00:40:05,427 --> 00:40:07,927 (bell rings) 931 00:40:08,026 --> 00:40:10,927 There were a lot of times I was late for work. 932 00:40:11,027 --> 00:40:13,967 I didn't care, 'cause what was more important 933 00:40:14,066 --> 00:40:16,068 than my work was James. 934 00:40:17,228 --> 00:40:19,228 - Are you okay, Cleo? 935 00:40:19,588 --> 00:40:21,489 - Yeah, I mean why shouldn't I be okay? 936 00:40:21,588 --> 00:40:24,349 School is out, summer's in, everything is fine, right? 937 00:40:25,429 --> 00:40:28,090 I would wait for James sometimes to pick me up, 938 00:40:28,190 --> 00:40:30,190 and I mean wait. 939 00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:32,710 Two and a half hours late. 940 00:40:33,552 --> 00:40:37,831 I eventually learned that he was into drugs. 941 00:40:40,833 --> 00:40:43,132 - [Reporter] The story of the DeBarge family has developed 942 00:40:43,231 --> 00:40:44,853 into an American tragedy. 943 00:40:44,952 --> 00:40:46,253 Three of the DeBarge brothers 944 00:40:46,353 --> 00:40:48,653 have been convicted on drug charges. 945 00:40:48,753 --> 00:40:52,735 But no one in the family proved as tragic as James. 946 00:40:52,834 --> 00:40:54,255 (somber music) 947 00:40:54,354 --> 00:40:55,094 - There were a lot of nights 948 00:40:55,193 --> 00:40:58,854 that I would go searching the streets, looking for him. 949 00:40:58,956 --> 00:41:02,275 Three o'clock in the morning, four o'clock in the morning. 950 00:41:03,155 --> 00:41:05,796 I remember times when we would... 951 00:41:06,677 --> 00:41:09,978 I would find the pills and I would take them 952 00:41:10,077 --> 00:41:11,537 and try to flush them down the toilet, 953 00:41:11,637 --> 00:41:13,376 and we would be rolling around on the floor, 954 00:41:13,478 --> 00:41:15,378 fighting for them. 955 00:41:15,478 --> 00:41:17,639 I mean, it's not a life for anyone. 956 00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:21,400 (dramatic music) 957 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,999 (somber music) 958 00:41:27,601 --> 00:41:29,900 You know I'd sit, and I'd say, "Were you stupid? 959 00:41:29,999 --> 00:41:30,740 Were you dumb?" 960 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:31,661 But it wasn't that. 961 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,382 I cared so much for him. 962 00:41:35,481 --> 00:41:38,063 And I saw the good in him as well 963 00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:41,822 and I just wanted that to take precedence, 964 00:41:41,921 --> 00:41:43,943 as opposed to this ugliness 965 00:41:44,043 --> 00:41:46,043 'cause I knew that he needed help. 966 00:41:49,324 --> 00:41:51,565 But I wasn't the help that he needed. 967 00:41:56,124 --> 00:41:59,985 I remember eventually deciding to get a divorce, 968 00:42:00,085 --> 00:42:04,226 or an annulment I should say, because it only lasted a year. 969 00:42:04,325 --> 00:42:07,787 And one day, he wanted me to drive him 970 00:42:07,887 --> 00:42:12,847 to his brother's house, and that's when I told him. 971 00:42:13,728 --> 00:42:16,588 And he was so mad and so frustrated, 972 00:42:16,688 --> 00:42:19,508 and when he got out of the car, I locked the doors. 973 00:42:19,610 --> 00:42:22,588 And I remember driving back home 974 00:42:22,690 --> 00:42:23,469 to my parents' house. 975 00:42:23,568 --> 00:42:24,831 I was just done. 976 00:42:24,930 --> 00:42:27,371 I was... (exhales) 977 00:42:28,729 --> 00:42:31,291 (somber music) 978 00:42:32,931 --> 00:42:35,671 I was just incredibly innocent. 979 00:42:35,771 --> 00:42:39,892 That's the thing, it's that innocence. 980 00:42:43,094 --> 00:42:47,213 And it's just to me hurtful for someone to see that 981 00:42:49,094 --> 00:42:51,094 and just try to take advantage of it 982 00:42:52,213 --> 00:42:55,536 and knowing that you don't know any better and lie to you, and... 983 00:43:20,179 --> 00:43:20,920 (tense music) 984 00:43:21,019 --> 00:43:21,999 - The stunning report 985 00:43:22,099 --> 00:43:24,601 about one of America's hottest pop stars. 986 00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:28,320 Does Janet Jackson have a secret daughter? 987 00:43:28,420 --> 00:43:30,240 - [Female Reporter] The father, her first husband, 988 00:43:30,342 --> 00:43:31,882 singer James DeBarge. 989 00:43:31,981 --> 00:43:33,561 - [Male Reporter] Janet's alleged daughter 990 00:43:33,661 --> 00:43:36,202 was raised by her older sister, Rebbie Jackson. 991 00:43:36,302 --> 00:43:38,762 She was supposedly placed in foster care. 992 00:43:38,862 --> 00:43:41,242 - Janet has never said a word about whether 993 00:43:41,344 --> 00:43:43,583 or not she had a secret baby. 994 00:43:44,943 --> 00:43:47,704 [Producer] So, the rumours about you having James' baby, 995 00:43:48,943 --> 00:43:50,204 are they true? 996 00:43:50,304 --> 00:43:53,286 (suspenseful music) 997 00:43:53,385 --> 00:43:54,206 (Janet scoffs) 998 00:43:54,305 --> 00:43:57,065 (dramatic music) 68695

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