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A day in the life would be...
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It would be very lonely.
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Thoughts were very powerful,
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they would kind of control
everything I could do from...
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It was more than just the food,
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it was who you spoke to,
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it was whether
you walked somewhere
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or whether you got the bus.
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♪
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I would wake up
thinking about food
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and thinking about my body.
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I would look at myself
in the mirror
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and be insanely critical
over how I looked.
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I was so horrible to myself
every single day.
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♪
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And here in the UK,
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I just couldn't see someone
organically loving their body,
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and I was a bit disappointed.
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♪
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What started out as, you know,
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let's just take
better care of ourselves
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really, really quickly
turned into something
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horribly destructive.
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♪
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♪
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♪
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Two more.
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Ah!
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♪
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Every waking moment of my life
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was simply thought around food...
When I was gonna eat,
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how much of it
I was going to eat,
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when I was going to exercise,
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how hard I was going
to exercise.
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That was just the running
conversation in my...
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It was almost like
there was someone else,
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like a demon living in my head
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just being horrible to me 24/7.
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Come on.
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Push!
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I bought into
a pro bodybuilder's diet
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and training plan,
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and I was probably training
seven days a week.
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I reckon I was eating 1,500,
1,600 calories a day
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spread out over seven meals,
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so every meal was like
the portion size
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for a rabbit or a small child.
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I then add some MyProtein
maple syrup flavor drops,
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'cause these make everything
taste super duper nice.
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My gym sessions tended
to consist of two sessions a day
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over six or seven days a week.
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Each session,
I probably had to do
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an hour and a half
of cardio every morning,
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and then an hour
to an hour and a half
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of weights every day.
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I started to lose my mind,
quite literally.
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♪
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I remember standing in front
of chillers in supermarkets
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for what felt like forever
in utter panic.
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"What am I going to eat?
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How many calories
has that got in it?
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How many grams of fat?"
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Just absolute panic.
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And the more malnourished I was,
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the more that panic
was unmanageable.
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Genuinely, it was like
my head was on fire,
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like the whole time.
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Imagine a fire alarm
going off constantly.
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And you know, like, the beeps
that are right in your ear
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and you can hear the ringing
and it's really...
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It's obnoxious
and it's just constant
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and you can't
really think straight?
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♪
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One extreme was this religious
calorie-tracking obsession
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behind what I was doing
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to the point then of overwhelm,
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where I'd think,
"Oh, stuff this,
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I can't do it anymore,"
and then I would binge eat.
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And so on my binges,
I would probably consume
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somewhere between 10,000
and 15,000 calories
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in one sitting,
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and I would always
look forward to that.
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It's celebrated, almost,
in today's day and age
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as a cheat meal.
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Now, my cheat meal,
I would order in
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an extra large Domino's pizza.
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I would eat all of that
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alongside four slices
of garlic bread,
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four cookies, one or two tubs
of Häagen-Dazs
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or Ben and Jerry's ice cream,
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and then one or two bars
of family sized chocolate,
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you know?
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♪
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I had reached
way beyond my goal weight.
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I was underweight,
and I was really small.
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I just... I remember flying home
from my friend's house,
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I'd been to see her
in Newcastle,
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and I bought an entire packet,
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like a family sized
packet of biscuits,
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and I tipped them all
into my hand luggage
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so that I could secretly
eat them on the way home,
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because I knew
that when I went home,
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I would have to get back on it.
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You know, I'd have
to start it again.
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So this was my last supper,
they call it.
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"Oh, well, I've eaten
three biscuits now.
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Last supper, I'll eat everything
in the entire house,
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and then
I'll start again tomorrow,
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I'll get back on it,
I'll be good again tomorrow."
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♪
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You can imagine how horrific
I would feel after doing that,
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but I was punishing
and purging myself
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because I thought, well,
I've broken my diet rules,
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so I might as well
keep breaking them
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and then
I'll start again Monday.
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And that's the cycle
that I found myself in.
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Then it got a little bit darker,
so I would overeat,
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and then try
and make myself sick.
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♪
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And those "last supper" moments
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were becoming more
and more uncontrollable.
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And I remember
standing in the queue
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having landed back home
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and having destroyed
all the evidence
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of everything I've eaten
and just bursting into tears
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and thinking, "There is
something horribly wrong.
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This isn't okay."
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And initially, I was so confused
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because I felt like
I had everything
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that I thought I wanted,
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and I couldn't understand
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why I couldn't
control myself enough
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to keep this gift
that I had gifted myself,
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you know, this end result
that was meant to be utopia.
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♪
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I looked stereotypically perfect
in terms of society's terms,
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you know, what we perceive
to be a perfect body,
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I guess I had obtained it.
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♪
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I developed an eating disorder
in my teens,
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when I was about
15 years old at school.
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It kind of began
as just casual dieting,
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eating a little bit less.
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I lost a little bit of weight,
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and then it became
more and more extreme,
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to the point
where I was diagnosed
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with anorexia nervosa.
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Certain foods
I felt I shouldn't eat
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'cause I wanted to lose weight
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or other people were
kind of demonizing them.
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So at school, we had a canteen,
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and at break time,
everyone would buy a snack.
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And some people would just
have an apple or have nothing,
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and slowly I became more aware
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of foods that were
kind of weight loss foods
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and foods that weren't.
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♪
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Growing up, I definitely
turned to food as an escape.
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So my mom and dad divorced
when I was eight.
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It was very, very, very messy,
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and food was an outlet for me.
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I was taught
the good and bad of food
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but as a child
I never quite saw food as that,
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I just saw it as like...
Almost like a friend
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that I could turn to
and it would make me happy.
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And when I was about 10,
I believe it was,
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my dad took me to a dietician,
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and I just remember
it just being
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a very, very serious
conversation
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of like my weight
and the size I was.
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♪
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As I developed
more and more into the illness,
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it did become about weight,
and it was a very rigid control
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of the number on the scales,
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and that became the focus.
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And my view of exercise
also changed.
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I used to just love
being an outdoors person,
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and then over the years
at school,
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it became more of a routine
that I must do,
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another way of controlling,
kind of, my behavior.
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♪
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So my dad has always been
very fitness conscious.
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He's very into
the good and bad food idea.
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It would simply be
like my dad would monitor,
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so if we'd gone out
the night before,
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we'd had some food,
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like it would be a mixture
of burger and chips one night
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and then maybe something
like a pasta dish the next.
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Like whereas my mom,
it would be what we wanted.
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So we had a bit
of a free-for-all.
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♪
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And I kept getting
progressively more unwell,
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and so eventually,
I was admitted
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to an inpatient unit.
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I've been in twice,
once when I was at school,
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so I missed
my final year of school,
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and I received treatment
for quite a long time,
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about nine months,
but I was still mentally
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in a very bad place.
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And so unfortunately,
I relapsed,
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and this time quite badly.
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I got to a very, very low BMI,
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and a very poor physical
and mental state
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and was admitted
to hospital again.
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And I think that's when I felt
like I hit rock bottom.
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I... I didn't leave the unit
for a very long time.
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♪
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Oh, man.
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Long nails are the enemy
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of progress
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when it comes
to doing eyelashes.
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But I have to be cute.
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My biological mom was
really verbally abusive
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towards me and my body,
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and I think that's when
I started hating who I was.
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She'd always say to me
that my face was beautiful
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and I was really pretty,
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but it was just a shame
that my body didn't match.
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And hearing that
when you're seven, eight, nine,
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10, 11, 12, 16, 18,
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your mom's voice becomes
your inner voice.
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That's just life, that's...
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You're the product
of your environment.
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♪
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There we go, there's the fringe.
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This is who I recognize.
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Oh.
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I'm so used to having lashes,
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but I'm au naturale today.
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Come on.
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When I was a child,
I was molested
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by a biological...
Not foster family...
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Biological family member.
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That was never dealt with,
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and I was just told
that it was my fault.
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When I was 13,
I got raped again,
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but I couldn't talk
to anyone about it.
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I didn't really understand
what sex was,
242
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let alone rape.
243
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I couldn't even
fight valiantly, you know?
244
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When people go into battle,
245
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even if they know
they're gonna die,
246
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they still just,
"Ahhh! For Sparta!"
247
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Or whatever,
but I didn't have that at all.
248
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I felt like everyone
had some kind of armor
249
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or weaponry on,
250
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and I was just
a young girl there
251
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in rag clothes, like sackcloth,
252
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and I just got shot, killed,
assaulted, murdered,
253
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and I didn't have any control
or any choice over it.
254
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And because I didn't fight,
because I couldn't fight,
255
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I hated myself for it,
256
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and I detached myself
from my body
257
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for a very, very,
very long time.
258
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I binge-ate and over...
259
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I just never heard
260
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about being intuitive
with my own body,
261
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and I didn't
really like my body,
262
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so the prospect of
having to listen to it
263
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or be in it
in order to respond to it
264
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in a way that was
beneficial to me
265
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was wildly alien.
266
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And being a disabled person
267
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just made that
an awful lot harder.
268
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Being in the medical system
269
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and actually not always being
physically capable of eating
270
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and getting my nutrition orally.
271
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♪
272
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- That's all right.
- Yeah, probably fine.
273
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No, I didn't notice immediately.
274
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And I think she...
Hannah had slimmed down,
275
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but actually I remember
thinking she looked...
276
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I mean, she was still...
She wasn't skinny,
277
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but she'd definitely
slimmed down,
278
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and she was always
quite a keen cyclist.
279
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And I remember we went cycling
280
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just before it all
sort of got really bad,
281
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and I just remember thinking
that she looked lovely,
282
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and I didn't think
for one minute
283
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that it was the problem it was.
284
00:14:10,213 --> 00:14:14,578
And I started to realize
that she was losing more weight,
285
00:14:14,613 --> 00:14:15,746
and then I got worried.
286
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And then I think the school
asked us to talk to them.
287
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♪
288
00:14:20,454 --> 00:14:22,134
Certainly, when Hannah
was an adolescent,
289
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the therapy was based on
the parents taking control
290
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and actually having a meal plan
291
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and making them stick
to the meal plan
292
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so they ate everything
on the table,
293
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and we could be there
at two in the morning
294
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trying to get a yogurt in,
295
00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:39,174
and that caused a huge conflict.
296
00:14:39,209 --> 00:14:43,343
Ultimately, when the disorder's
so much about control,
297
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if someone's trying
to force you to do something,
298
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they're taking everything
out of your control.
299
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And I think the times
when you tried to force me
300
00:14:51,254 --> 00:14:53,287
were the times
when the eating disorder
301
00:14:53,322 --> 00:14:56,356
fought back harder than ever.
302
00:14:56,391 --> 00:14:59,964
So it's meant to be
early intervention...
303
00:14:59,999 --> 00:15:02,428
Eating disorders
are not about food.
304
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They're never about food.
305
00:15:03,970 --> 00:15:05,343
When something goes wrong
with eating,
306
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then we know that
there's something
307
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really fundamental going wrong.
308
00:15:08,502 --> 00:15:11,602
And that's why treatments
for eating disorders
309
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are long and complex
and intense.
310
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There's a kind of wish sometimes
311
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for it to be about the food
312
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because that would
just be much easier.
313
00:15:22,549 --> 00:15:25,957
- And she said Sydenham Hill.
- Yeah.
314
00:15:32,724 --> 00:15:36,033
I've never, ever,
ever spoken to my dad,
315
00:15:36,068 --> 00:15:38,365
but I know, growing up, my dad...
316
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I believe it was protecting me
from being fat,
317
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because, in that day and age,
318
00:15:44,439 --> 00:15:46,637
and I mean, it's still here now,
319
00:15:46,672 --> 00:15:49,112
but being fat was bad,
320
00:15:49,147 --> 00:15:51,114
and I think he thought
me being bigger
321
00:15:51,149 --> 00:15:54,150
would limit my chances
of having a good life
322
00:15:54,185 --> 00:15:57,285
and succeeding and doing well.
323
00:16:05,361 --> 00:16:07,042
I actually ended up
with an eating disorder,
324
00:16:07,066 --> 00:16:09,759
which lasted
for about six years,
325
00:16:09,794 --> 00:16:13,037
so I suffered terribly
from binge-eating disorder,
326
00:16:13,072 --> 00:16:15,402
and that was closely linked
with body dysmorphia,
327
00:16:15,437 --> 00:16:19,571
so I had in my mind that
I needed to look a certain way.
328
00:16:19,606 --> 00:16:21,111
I was kind of placing
my happiness
329
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in something external,
330
00:16:22,675 --> 00:16:25,478
and it just led to very extreme
food style behaviors,
331
00:16:25,513 --> 00:16:28,679
so having come
from a good relationship
332
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with food growing up,
333
00:16:30,386 --> 00:16:34,091
it soon went south
very, very quickly.
334
00:16:37,690 --> 00:16:42,528
Think of bigorexia
like reverse anorexia.
335
00:16:42,563 --> 00:16:45,564
Instead of people
who really want to be thin
336
00:16:45,599 --> 00:16:48,666
and desperately want
to lose weight,
337
00:16:48,701 --> 00:16:51,636
you have predominantly young men
338
00:16:51,671 --> 00:16:54,045
who want to be more muscular,
339
00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,180
and the sort of diet
and training
340
00:16:57,215 --> 00:16:59,215
that they involve
themselves with
341
00:16:59,250 --> 00:17:01,415
are geared toward
becoming more muscular.
342
00:17:04,585 --> 00:17:07,586
Muscle dysmorphia is
not dangerous, per se,
343
00:17:07,621 --> 00:17:10,424
but it is debilitating,
and that's different.
344
00:17:10,459 --> 00:17:12,756
People who have
really high levels of anxiety
345
00:17:12,791 --> 00:17:14,230
are debilitated by it.
346
00:17:14,265 --> 00:17:15,759
Like, it can ruin their life.
347
00:17:15,794 --> 00:17:19,301
And we see a similar thing
with muscle dysmorphia.
348
00:17:22,570 --> 00:17:23,734
Are you an idiot?
349
00:17:23,769 --> 00:17:26,308
What is this?
350
00:17:26,343 --> 00:17:29,278
You'd better do
your dancing again.
351
00:17:29,313 --> 00:17:33,546
I think it is celebrating
a disordered behavior
352
00:17:33,581 --> 00:17:35,647
in relationship with food,
353
00:17:35,682 --> 00:17:39,090
and it's an attempt
to legitimize that behavior
354
00:17:39,125 --> 00:17:41,389
by giving it another name.
355
00:17:41,424 --> 00:17:46,097
But I think if we take
the cheat meal concept out of it
356
00:17:46,132 --> 00:17:47,376
and we look at it
for what it is,
357
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,564
I think it's fairly obvious
that it's a disordered behavior
358
00:17:51,599 --> 00:17:53,434
to engage with with food.
359
00:18:04,348 --> 00:18:08,581
I didn't treat my body
with any amount of love,
360
00:18:08,616 --> 00:18:10,385
I was so detached from it.
361
00:18:10,420 --> 00:18:14,818
Be it the small things,
like... sounds silly,
362
00:18:14,853 --> 00:18:16,787
but as a Black woman,
just cleaning my skin.
363
00:18:16,822 --> 00:18:17,887
I hated it.
364
00:18:17,922 --> 00:18:18,922
I hated the skin.
365
00:18:18,957 --> 00:18:23,761
I hated the skin
that didn't do anything for me.
366
00:18:23,796 --> 00:18:29,833
Or eating unhealthily,
367
00:18:29,868 --> 00:18:32,341
not necessarily binge-eating,
368
00:18:32,376 --> 00:18:33,650
but not eating
throughout the whole day
369
00:18:33,674 --> 00:18:35,608
and then eating
at 11 o'clock at night.
370
00:18:35,643 --> 00:18:37,148
Worst thing you can do,
371
00:18:37,183 --> 00:18:39,513
it's so bad
for your digestive system.
372
00:18:39,548 --> 00:18:43,253
Sexually, no boundaries,
no walls,
373
00:18:43,288 --> 00:18:45,321
no "Hey, stop here,
374
00:18:45,356 --> 00:18:47,422
I actually don't really want
this to happen."
375
00:18:47,457 --> 00:18:49,820
I didn't really care,
so if it does then it does,
376
00:18:49,855 --> 00:18:51,228
if it doesn't, it doesn't.
377
00:18:51,263 --> 00:18:54,693
I... I place no value
on this body,
378
00:18:54,728 --> 00:18:57,201
so do with it what you like.
379
00:18:57,236 --> 00:19:00,534
And it's dangerous.
380
00:19:00,569 --> 00:19:03,273
It's very, very, very reckless.
381
00:19:03,308 --> 00:19:05,770
So I hate what's been done
to this body,
382
00:19:05,805 --> 00:19:08,476
but there's nowhere else
to direct it,
383
00:19:08,511 --> 00:19:09,752
so I'll do
what everyone else does
384
00:19:09,776 --> 00:19:12,282
and direct it at my body, too.
385
00:19:17,718 --> 00:19:24,459
♪
386
00:19:24,494 --> 00:19:27,231
It affected things massively.
387
00:19:27,266 --> 00:19:29,200
You know, I was causing
so much upset
388
00:19:29,235 --> 00:19:30,663
and distress to my mom and dad,
389
00:19:30,698 --> 00:19:34,568
because they were just seeing
like a boy who was in pain,
390
00:19:34,603 --> 00:19:35,877
and that's the only way
I can describe it.
391
00:19:35,901 --> 00:19:37,703
I was in a lot of pain.
392
00:19:40,675 --> 00:19:43,346
I was with a girlfriend
at the time
393
00:19:43,381 --> 00:19:47,350
and caused her a lot of angst
and upset along the way.
394
00:19:47,385 --> 00:19:49,847
♪
395
00:19:49,882 --> 00:19:50,714
People would be like,
396
00:19:50,750 --> 00:19:52,586
"Do you fancy meeting
for a coffee?"
397
00:19:52,621 --> 00:19:55,688
And I'd break out
into a cold sweat.
398
00:19:55,723 --> 00:19:57,723
Family would be like,
"Oh, let's have
399
00:19:57,758 --> 00:19:59,362
a Christmas dinner together,"
400
00:19:59,397 --> 00:20:02,530
and I'd be absolutely terrified.
401
00:20:02,565 --> 00:20:03,993
Like, what are
they gonna make me?
402
00:20:04,028 --> 00:20:06,501
Am I going to be able
to eat anything?
403
00:20:06,536 --> 00:20:08,371
Oh, it was just...
404
00:20:08,406 --> 00:20:12,672
♪
405
00:20:12,707 --> 00:20:14,245
I became a secret eater,
406
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,677
because my mom often
shamed me quite openly
407
00:20:17,712 --> 00:20:19,547
when it came to food.
408
00:20:19,582 --> 00:20:22,550
There would be a comment
about the amount of rice
409
00:20:22,585 --> 00:20:23,784
that I've eaten,
410
00:20:23,820 --> 00:20:26,686
or the fact that there's not
enough salad on the plate,
411
00:20:26,721 --> 00:20:29,590
and it's just like, "Okay.
412
00:20:29,625 --> 00:20:31,262
I will eat air."
413
00:20:32,892 --> 00:20:35,332
Put some sauce on it.
414
00:20:35,367 --> 00:20:36,433
Mm, tasty.
415
00:20:36,468 --> 00:20:38,038
So people might say,
"Yeah, I didn't really see...
416
00:20:38,062 --> 00:20:39,567
Jo didn't really eat that much.
417
00:20:39,602 --> 00:20:40,777
I haven't really seen
Mojo eat."
418
00:20:40,801 --> 00:20:41,700
Yeah, because I don't
want you to,
419
00:20:41,736 --> 00:20:43,868
because in my brain,
I have to eat in silence
420
00:20:43,903 --> 00:20:45,375
or in secret.
421
00:20:45,410 --> 00:20:47,707
When everyone goes to bed
in my mom's house,
422
00:20:47,742 --> 00:20:49,841
I'd try and like...
I'd go in the kitchen,
423
00:20:49,876 --> 00:20:53,614
I'm so good at sneaking around.
424
00:20:53,649 --> 00:20:56,485
Two o'clock at night
would be when I have my dinner.
425
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,915
I'll have a fake dinner at eight
426
00:20:57,950 --> 00:20:59,532
so that everyone
can see that I'm eating
427
00:20:59,556 --> 00:21:01,358
and not ask me any problems,
428
00:21:01,393 --> 00:21:05,659
but I was so afraid to eat,
I'd just do it in secret.
429
00:21:08,532 --> 00:21:16,532
♪
430
00:21:18,542 --> 00:21:19,739
I didn't want to get better,
431
00:21:19,774 --> 00:21:21,312
so I was fighting the system
432
00:21:21,347 --> 00:21:23,875
when I was receiving
outpatient treatment.
433
00:21:23,910 --> 00:21:25,943
And although
the outpatient treatment
434
00:21:25,978 --> 00:21:29,749
was trying to do its best,
it just didn't...
435
00:21:29,784 --> 00:21:33,654
It didn't get to the crux
of what was really going on.
436
00:21:33,689 --> 00:21:37,427
♪
437
00:21:37,462 --> 00:21:44,764
It has been the hardest thing
ever to deal with,
438
00:21:44,799 --> 00:21:48,097
not just for me,
but for everybody, for Hannah.
439
00:21:48,132 --> 00:21:49,934
And I try to put myself
in her shoes
440
00:21:49,969 --> 00:21:54,444
and think, you know,
when we're struggling,
441
00:21:54,479 --> 00:21:57,612
how does it feel for her
in her head?
442
00:21:57,647 --> 00:21:59,350
And you can never
really do that,
443
00:21:59,385 --> 00:22:02,551
but you can empathize
444
00:22:02,586 --> 00:22:04,553
when you couldn't understand.
445
00:22:04,588 --> 00:22:12,588
♪
446
00:22:21,572 --> 00:22:23,638
I was so under-rested,
unrecovered,
447
00:22:23,673 --> 00:22:25,376
my stress levels
were through the roof,
448
00:22:25,411 --> 00:22:27,807
and it just perpetuated
the binge cycle,
449
00:22:27,842 --> 00:22:28,953
because I would get
to the end of the week,
450
00:22:28,977 --> 00:22:30,854
my body would be like,
"What the hell are you doing?
451
00:22:30,878 --> 00:22:32,416
Put some fuel in!"
452
00:22:32,451 --> 00:22:33,978
And so, for me,
that fuel would be
453
00:22:34,013 --> 00:22:37,652
my big Domino blowout binges.
454
00:22:37,687 --> 00:22:39,951
I had in my mind that,
"I'll just keep going,
455
00:22:39,986 --> 00:22:42,558
'cause once I get through
this bit of unhappiness,
456
00:22:42,593 --> 00:22:44,087
then I'll be happy."
457
00:22:44,122 --> 00:22:46,430
And guess what? I never did.
458
00:22:46,465 --> 00:22:50,159
♪
459
00:22:50,194 --> 00:22:52,964
In the long run,
dieting may actually be
460
00:22:52,999 --> 00:22:55,835
doing the opposite effect
of what it's intended to.
461
00:22:55,870 --> 00:22:57,573
You know,
if you have a beach ball
462
00:22:57,608 --> 00:22:59,905
that's floating
on the surface of the water,
463
00:22:59,940 --> 00:23:02,578
and you go to push it under,
what's gonna happen?
464
00:23:02,613 --> 00:23:04,492
You're gonna be able to
push it down a certain amount,
465
00:23:04,516 --> 00:23:06,142
and then it's gonna
bounce back up.
466
00:23:06,177 --> 00:23:07,715
And each time you do it,
467
00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:09,717
it's gonna fly back up
in the air.
468
00:23:09,752 --> 00:23:12,423
And that's exactly what happens
469
00:23:12,458 --> 00:23:14,755
with our metabolism
when we diet.
470
00:23:14,790 --> 00:23:16,856
We double our efforts
every single time
471
00:23:16,891 --> 00:23:19,023
that the diet fails us.
472
00:23:21,467 --> 00:23:24,633
♪
473
00:23:24,668 --> 00:23:28,032
Diets are really popular
simply because society tells us
474
00:23:28,067 --> 00:23:29,836
that we need to look
a certain way,
475
00:23:29,871 --> 00:23:32,476
that we need to behave
a certain way,
476
00:23:32,511 --> 00:23:35,611
and because that pressure
from society is on all of us,
477
00:23:35,646 --> 00:23:37,679
that naturally
makes diets very popular,
478
00:23:37,714 --> 00:23:39,648
because we see
someone who's thin
479
00:23:39,683 --> 00:23:41,716
and think they're a good person.
480
00:23:41,751 --> 00:23:44,180
Obviously, therefore,
people want to be thin
481
00:23:44,215 --> 00:23:45,720
and will go on diets.
482
00:23:45,755 --> 00:23:47,920
So no, just because
dieting is popular
483
00:23:47,955 --> 00:23:50,527
doesn't mean that
it's risk-free either.
484
00:23:50,562 --> 00:23:55,125
♪
485
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,667
I was quite unaware
of what I was doing.
486
00:23:58,702 --> 00:24:02,671
♪
487
00:24:02,706 --> 00:24:04,068
I had a lot going on at home.
488
00:24:04,103 --> 00:24:06,873
My dad, a couple of years
beforehand,
489
00:24:06,908 --> 00:24:08,941
had been diagnosed
with throat cancer
490
00:24:08,976 --> 00:24:10,547
and had been going
through treatment,
491
00:24:10,582 --> 00:24:12,945
and that had been
really challenging as a family.
492
00:24:12,980 --> 00:24:17,015
I was... I had braces at the time,
493
00:24:17,050 --> 00:24:18,885
I still have ginger hair,
but at the time,
494
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,117
I was very conscious of it.
495
00:24:20,152 --> 00:24:21,558
I was teased
quite a lot at school
496
00:24:21,593 --> 00:24:23,098
for kind of being
a little bit overweight,
497
00:24:23,122 --> 00:24:25,859
so I think my control
over my food
498
00:24:25,894 --> 00:24:28,565
became the thing
I could control in my life.
499
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,666
♪
500
00:24:32,934 --> 00:24:40,775
♪
501
00:24:40,810 --> 00:24:45,813
So for me, I was controlling
something else in my life,
502
00:24:45,848 --> 00:24:46,979
which was food and training,
503
00:24:47,014 --> 00:24:48,684
because I wasn't
actually in control
504
00:24:48,719 --> 00:24:51,214
of some emotional things
that I wasn't dealing with.
505
00:24:51,249 --> 00:24:53,051
I was a very poor communicator,
506
00:24:53,086 --> 00:24:54,888
didn't like confrontation,
507
00:24:54,923 --> 00:24:58,254
and I think the initial feelings
508
00:24:58,289 --> 00:25:01,631
stemmed from me
not feeling okay about myself.
509
00:25:01,666 --> 00:25:04,898
I was made to feel
like I wasn't good enough
510
00:25:04,933 --> 00:25:06,999
by certain people
growing up in my life
511
00:25:07,034 --> 00:25:08,902
that made me feel like that,
512
00:25:08,937 --> 00:25:11,641
and that's where
I then took the control of,
513
00:25:11,676 --> 00:25:14,644
"when I look like this,
then I'll be happy."
514
00:25:14,679 --> 00:25:22,113
♪
515
00:25:22,148 --> 00:25:26,249
♪ Small clan,
we're just a small clan ♪
516
00:25:26,284 --> 00:25:29,692
♪ We don't touch
the small clans ♪
517
00:25:29,727 --> 00:25:32,090
♪ Swindle the small clans ♪
518
00:25:32,125 --> 00:25:35,192
♪ We don't run
the small clans ♪
519
00:25:35,227 --> 00:25:37,931
♪ We're just a small clan ♪
520
00:25:37,966 --> 00:25:39,746
I've always been bullied
because of my weight
521
00:25:39,770 --> 00:25:41,066
and because of my height.
522
00:25:41,101 --> 00:25:42,573
So I've always been the biggest,
523
00:25:42,608 --> 00:25:44,608
I've always been the tallest,
524
00:25:44,643 --> 00:25:46,236
all the way throughout school.
525
00:25:46,271 --> 00:25:49,272
They were always picking on me
just because I was different.
526
00:25:49,307 --> 00:25:52,880
I went into, like,
a stage of being emo,
527
00:25:52,915 --> 00:25:55,212
so it was... you know,
colored hair,
528
00:25:55,247 --> 00:25:57,313
black hair, big swoop in front,
529
00:25:57,348 --> 00:26:00,349
listening to rock music.
530
00:26:00,384 --> 00:26:02,758
I don't know whether
it was my defense barrier
531
00:26:02,793 --> 00:26:07,257
of not really digesting it,
so to speak,
532
00:26:07,292 --> 00:26:09,292
and just letting them carry on.
533
00:26:11,230 --> 00:26:19,230
♪
534
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,110
That's me
at, like, junior school.
535
00:26:25,145 --> 00:26:27,618
That's Sports Day.
536
00:26:27,653 --> 00:26:31,281
My not favorite day of the year,
you can imagine.
537
00:26:34,858 --> 00:26:37,122
By the time I left
secondary school,
538
00:26:37,157 --> 00:26:39,729
I very much was a fat person.
539
00:26:39,764 --> 00:26:43,865
I was very obviously
different to my peers,
540
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:46,362
but I guess
that feeling of otherness,
541
00:26:46,397 --> 00:26:50,399
that sense of just feeling
different to other people
542
00:26:50,434 --> 00:26:54,271
I think sometimes, in naivety,
543
00:26:54,306 --> 00:26:57,010
it's easy to just
attribute that to your body,
544
00:26:57,045 --> 00:26:58,275
"Oh, well, I was fat.
545
00:26:58,310 --> 00:27:00,112
I was always different
because I was fat,
546
00:27:00,147 --> 00:27:02,015
I was always other
because I was fat,"
547
00:27:02,050 --> 00:27:05,788
and actually
I just felt different.
548
00:27:05,823 --> 00:27:10,760
And I had just met
my then partner, now wife,
549
00:27:10,795 --> 00:27:15,193
and I think I just...
I wanted to transform.
550
00:27:15,228 --> 00:27:18,867
I wanted to be
entirely different
551
00:27:18,902 --> 00:27:21,903
to who I'd been previously.
552
00:27:21,938 --> 00:27:25,335
Can I have a kiss?
553
00:27:25,370 --> 00:27:26,974
Yeah, that'll be nice.
554
00:27:27,009 --> 00:27:30,373
I got my lipstick
on your chin, I'm sorry.
555
00:27:30,408 --> 00:27:35,147
Quite often, eating disorders
and eating issues
556
00:27:35,182 --> 00:27:37,787
provide a kind of
framework of routine
557
00:27:37,822 --> 00:27:40,889
or certainty for us
to hang our anxieties on.
558
00:27:40,924 --> 00:27:44,926
Instead of addressing
what's happening in our lives,
559
00:27:44,961 --> 00:27:48,325
in our worlds, we try
to then go for a quick fix,
560
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:49,504
which is, "Well,
if I can fix my body,
561
00:27:49,528 --> 00:27:52,901
then maybe that will trigger
all of these other things
562
00:27:52,936 --> 00:27:54,375
to improve in the rest
of my life,"
563
00:27:54,399 --> 00:27:57,136
but it never
really happens that way.
564
00:27:57,171 --> 00:28:05,171
♪
565
00:28:07,181 --> 00:28:09,445
I always told everyone
I was fine, you know?
566
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,446
People would say,
"How are you doing?"
567
00:28:10,481 --> 00:28:11,380
"Oh, I'm fine."
568
00:28:11,416 --> 00:28:14,890
It was an immediate
sort of bat-off remark.
569
00:28:14,925 --> 00:28:17,420
I started to ask myself
a lot more questions
570
00:28:17,455 --> 00:28:19,994
and to really reflect
on what I was doing,
571
00:28:20,029 --> 00:28:21,996
because ultimately
what I was doing
572
00:28:22,031 --> 00:28:23,998
was making me very unhappy.
573
00:28:24,033 --> 00:28:30,939
♪
574
00:28:30,974 --> 00:28:32,842
I went through
a really dark depression
575
00:28:32,877 --> 00:28:35,911
and stopped eating,
which to me was a huge sign
576
00:28:35,946 --> 00:28:39,849
that my emotions had changed
as a comfort eater.
577
00:28:39,884 --> 00:28:43,347
But the fact that
I didn't eat at all,
578
00:28:43,382 --> 00:28:47,384
secret or in public, like,
that's when I said,
579
00:28:47,419 --> 00:28:49,518
"Okay, there's clearly
an issue with me
580
00:28:49,553 --> 00:28:51,289
and my eating habits
and my food,"
581
00:28:51,324 --> 00:28:52,928
but I didn't feel
like my partner
582
00:28:52,963 --> 00:28:55,458
was supportive of that at all.
583
00:28:55,493 --> 00:29:00,232
I feel like my experience of it
was keep me fat,
584
00:29:00,267 --> 00:29:02,399
keep me depressed, keep me down,
585
00:29:02,434 --> 00:29:04,368
and I would never
have stepped on her toes.
586
00:29:04,403 --> 00:29:08,306
That was how I felt
in that relationship.
587
00:29:08,341 --> 00:29:10,847
However, I did go to carnival,
588
00:29:10,882 --> 00:29:15,478
I did Notting Hill Carnival
2016 and '17.
589
00:29:18,021 --> 00:29:19,416
For me, that was a safe space.
590
00:29:19,451 --> 00:29:20,923
I mean, it's out in public,
591
00:29:20,958 --> 00:29:23,156
but it was a safe space
to explore my body
592
00:29:23,191 --> 00:29:24,960
and be free in it
because of the culture,
593
00:29:24,995 --> 00:29:26,456
because of the environment.
594
00:29:26,491 --> 00:29:28,139
It's the only place
where you can be naked
595
00:29:28,163 --> 00:29:29,029
one day of the year
596
00:29:29,064 --> 00:29:31,164
and have no one
say a thing about it.
597
00:29:31,199 --> 00:29:31,998
So the first year,
598
00:29:32,033 --> 00:29:33,342
I was actually
really disappointed
599
00:29:33,366 --> 00:29:35,234
that I wore so much clothes.
600
00:29:35,269 --> 00:29:39,810
I had a black leotard on
and very thin black tights.
601
00:29:39,845 --> 00:29:41,911
I still feel ashamed
that I wore that much.
602
00:29:41,946 --> 00:29:43,187
I think it was
way too much clothing,
603
00:29:43,211 --> 00:29:45,079
I was too covered up.
604
00:29:45,114 --> 00:29:51,217
♪
605
00:29:51,252 --> 00:29:53,351
Okay, guys, what is going on?
606
00:29:53,386 --> 00:29:55,056
Don't be angry, girl,
it's carnival!
607
00:29:55,091 --> 00:29:56,091
What's going on?
608
00:29:56,125 --> 00:29:57,960
Don't be angry, okay?
609
00:29:57,995 --> 00:29:59,896
Listen!
610
00:30:11,041 --> 00:30:13,041
I wasn't born in Britain.
611
00:30:13,076 --> 00:30:17,474
I lived in the Caribbean
from birth to about 17,
612
00:30:17,509 --> 00:30:21,577
and where I'm from,
the thicker you are,
613
00:30:21,612 --> 00:30:23,513
the more celebrated you are.
614
00:30:23,548 --> 00:30:26,989
Men don't have a problem
with your size.
615
00:30:27,024 --> 00:30:32,522
♪
616
00:30:32,557 --> 00:30:35,129
It was very difficult
to transition
617
00:30:35,164 --> 00:30:39,265
from the love I had for myself
as a 17-year-old
618
00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:40,530
coming to the UK.
619
00:30:40,565 --> 00:30:42,873
It was a bit shocking for me
620
00:30:42,908 --> 00:30:46,404
to see that women here
that I met,
621
00:30:46,439 --> 00:30:49,979
most of them, instead of
complimenting themself,
622
00:30:50,014 --> 00:30:53,312
they would always
really talk negatively
623
00:30:53,347 --> 00:30:56,216
about their bodies
and dress in a way
624
00:30:56,251 --> 00:30:59,384
that really cover up their body,
625
00:30:59,419 --> 00:31:01,518
and they don't want
to show their curves,
626
00:31:01,553 --> 00:31:05,588
and they don't want to show
their bodies at all.
627
00:31:05,623 --> 00:31:10,098
♪
628
00:31:10,133 --> 00:31:13,068
Everybody feels
a little bit uncomfortable
629
00:31:13,103 --> 00:31:15,004
with how they look,
630
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:18,172
but with bigger women,
631
00:31:18,207 --> 00:31:21,241
we're not allowed to feel bad.
632
00:31:21,276 --> 00:31:23,573
We first must feel ashamed,
633
00:31:23,608 --> 00:31:26,411
and every feeling
that we feel about our bodies
634
00:31:26,446 --> 00:31:28,017
grows out of that.
635
00:31:28,052 --> 00:31:30,316
They are setting the tone
636
00:31:30,351 --> 00:31:33,121
for our relationships
with our bodies,
637
00:31:33,156 --> 00:31:35,684
and that alone is unhealthy,
638
00:31:35,719 --> 00:31:37,653
but what else can we do
but be caught up
639
00:31:37,688 --> 00:31:39,160
in the opinion of others
640
00:31:39,195 --> 00:31:43,296
when there are
so many negative opinions?
641
00:31:49,139 --> 00:31:51,073
Like with the trolling I get.
642
00:31:51,108 --> 00:31:54,538
It's like, "How dare you
go travel the world
643
00:31:54,573 --> 00:31:56,177
and be in these amazing places?
644
00:31:56,212 --> 00:31:57,618
Like, how dare you go
and enjoy yourself?
645
00:31:57,642 --> 00:32:01,017
How dare you be in a job
and be more successful than me?
646
00:32:01,052 --> 00:32:03,382
How dare you do
these videos for the BBC?"
647
00:32:09,555 --> 00:32:11,060
How dare you be fat
648
00:32:11,095 --> 00:32:13,689
and be succeeding
in doing these things?
649
00:32:18,465 --> 00:32:20,608
Like, believe me, I have had
to work three times as hard
650
00:32:20,632 --> 00:32:22,500
to work in the fashion industry
651
00:32:22,535 --> 00:32:26,339
and put myself in very,
very uncomfortable situations.
652
00:32:26,374 --> 00:32:28,308
Like, I haven't got it easy.
653
00:32:37,550 --> 00:32:40,551
Hello, kitten!
654
00:32:40,586 --> 00:32:43,092
What's really hard
to get across to people
655
00:32:43,127 --> 00:32:47,459
is that for 10 years,
I lived in a fat body
656
00:32:47,494 --> 00:32:49,197
and I was a wheelchair user,
657
00:32:49,232 --> 00:32:53,432
and it's the microaggressions
that you don't even realize
658
00:32:53,467 --> 00:32:55,566
that are taking place
around you.
659
00:32:55,601 --> 00:32:58,569
It's things like
not being able to access seating
660
00:32:58,604 --> 00:32:59,737
when you're in clinic,
661
00:32:59,772 --> 00:33:02,540
because the seats are so small
you can't sit on them.
662
00:33:02,575 --> 00:33:04,608
It's the really,
really little things
663
00:33:04,643 --> 00:33:07,413
like, "Oh, we haven't got gowns
that are gonna fit you.
664
00:33:07,448 --> 00:33:10,284
We'll get you three and just,
you know, put them around you,"
665
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:12,682
or, "You'll have
to wear men's pajamas,
666
00:33:12,717 --> 00:33:15,619
because we haven't got anything
big enough for you otherwise."
667
00:33:15,654 --> 00:33:18,358
It's those little things,
and they add up.
668
00:33:18,393 --> 00:33:20,723
That's how
microaggressions work.
669
00:33:20,758 --> 00:33:23,396
Just that drip constantly
that you're not good enough,
670
00:33:23,431 --> 00:33:24,694
that your body is irrelevant,
671
00:33:24,729 --> 00:33:26,366
that you're harming yourself.
672
00:33:26,401 --> 00:33:29,270
That, you know,
this is your fault.
673
00:33:29,305 --> 00:33:33,208
♪
674
00:33:33,243 --> 00:33:35,342
Probably the most
traumatic experience
675
00:33:35,377 --> 00:33:37,641
was the time that
I was in intensive care.
676
00:33:37,676 --> 00:33:41,315
I was in respiratory arrest,
so my lungs had failed,
677
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:43,482
I wasn't able
to breathe for myself.
678
00:33:43,517 --> 00:33:45,352
I was in heart failure.
679
00:33:45,387 --> 00:33:48,487
I had sepsis, which is
an infection of your blood,
680
00:33:48,522 --> 00:33:51,292
and I remember
the nurse looking at me
681
00:33:51,327 --> 00:33:53,822
and saying, "You're doing this
to yourself."
682
00:33:53,857 --> 00:33:56,594
She started talking at me,
683
00:33:56,629 --> 00:33:59,069
because obviously,
I couldn't respond to her,
684
00:33:59,104 --> 00:34:02,567
about how I really needed
to do something about my weight
685
00:34:02,602 --> 00:34:04,272
and that if I wasn't so fat
686
00:34:04,307 --> 00:34:07,473
then my lungs wouldn't
have struggled so much.
687
00:34:07,508 --> 00:34:10,740
♪
688
00:34:10,775 --> 00:34:12,610
We have research
that actually shows
689
00:34:12,645 --> 00:34:15,679
that weight is not necessarily
690
00:34:15,714 --> 00:34:18,253
an accurate indicator of health,
691
00:34:18,288 --> 00:34:20,189
and we can't actually
tell anything
692
00:34:20,224 --> 00:34:24,688
about somebody's health
based on what they look like.
693
00:34:24,723 --> 00:34:28,461
It's really upsetting to go
to the doctor, for example,
694
00:34:28,496 --> 00:34:30,793
with a general head cold,
let's say,
695
00:34:30,828 --> 00:34:34,500
and leave after
being bombarded for 10 minutes
696
00:34:34,535 --> 00:34:35,875
about how they need
to lose weight
697
00:34:35,899 --> 00:34:37,800
and how they need
to go on a diet,
698
00:34:37,835 --> 00:34:40,605
and, you know,
it's extremely stressful,
699
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,838
and that's what's known
as weight stigma.
700
00:34:42,873 --> 00:34:47,117
♪
701
00:34:47,152 --> 00:34:51,187
The stigma that's attached
to weight, my weight,
702
00:34:51,222 --> 00:34:54,619
is so real, it feels unreal.
703
00:34:54,654 --> 00:35:00,559
I can't be... I'm not allowed
to be sexy because I'm fat.
704
00:35:00,594 --> 00:35:01,493
Even though I'm fat
and you want me
705
00:35:01,529 --> 00:35:02,803
to go to the gym,
when I go to the gym,
706
00:35:02,827 --> 00:35:03,827
you look at me weird.
707
00:35:03,861 --> 00:35:05,828
That's crazy.
708
00:35:05,863 --> 00:35:09,139
I can't be happy and fat
at the same time.
709
00:35:09,174 --> 00:35:11,768
I should wear curtains
all the time,
710
00:35:11,803 --> 00:35:12,869
I should cover myself up.
711
00:35:12,904 --> 00:35:16,707
That's kind of the stigma
that I feel every day.
712
00:35:16,742 --> 00:35:18,841
I need to pee, I'm desperate,
713
00:35:18,876 --> 00:35:21,646
so I might go into a McDonald's.
714
00:35:21,681 --> 00:35:24,451
But I would rather hold my pee
715
00:35:24,486 --> 00:35:27,256
and cause myself internal pain
716
00:35:27,291 --> 00:35:29,456
than face some kind of ridicule
in McDonald's
717
00:35:29,491 --> 00:35:30,657
just 'cause I need to pee.
718
00:35:30,692 --> 00:35:34,197
I'm not here to eat a Big Mac,
burgers, chicken wings,
719
00:35:34,232 --> 00:35:35,506
Filet-O-Fish,
I don't want any of that.
720
00:35:35,530 --> 00:35:37,244
I just want to pee,
but I get really scared
721
00:35:37,268 --> 00:35:40,302
to go inside,
and it's so damaging.
722
00:35:45,738 --> 00:35:48,310
Individuals who experience
weight stigma
723
00:35:48,345 --> 00:35:51,412
and have higher rates of
internalized weight stigma,
724
00:35:51,447 --> 00:35:54,745
they experience more anxiety
and depression,
725
00:35:54,780 --> 00:35:57,880
disordered eating,
body dissatisfaction.
726
00:35:57,915 --> 00:36:01,323
And it's such a problem that
the World Health Organization
727
00:36:01,358 --> 00:36:04,326
has called it
a serious health concern.
728
00:36:08,332 --> 00:36:10,596
Shoreditch High Street Station.
729
00:36:13,304 --> 00:36:16,404
I would argue that
diet culture wouldn't exist
730
00:36:16,439 --> 00:36:17,537
without fat phobia.
731
00:36:17,572 --> 00:36:20,342
If we weren't fearful
of being fat,
732
00:36:20,377 --> 00:36:22,707
the diet industry doesn't
have a leg to stand on.
733
00:36:22,742 --> 00:36:24,280
Why would you want
to lose weight
734
00:36:24,315 --> 00:36:25,545
if there wasn't a problem
735
00:36:25,580 --> 00:36:27,217
with being fat
in the first place?
736
00:36:27,252 --> 00:36:28,911
Or it wouldn't be as profitable
737
00:36:28,946 --> 00:36:31,221
if we didn't subscribe
to that idea
738
00:36:31,256 --> 00:36:32,948
that being fat is bad
739
00:36:32,983 --> 00:36:34,851
and if we had
that fear around it,
740
00:36:34,886 --> 00:36:37,920
and I think it's important
to say that
741
00:36:37,955 --> 00:36:40,989
the diet industry is fueled
by that fear,
742
00:36:41,024 --> 00:36:42,628
and yet it doesn't work.
743
00:36:42,663 --> 00:36:45,268
We know diets
don't work long-term.
744
00:36:48,702 --> 00:36:50,372
I had a really genuine,
745
00:36:50,407 --> 00:36:51,736
"No, no, no, I don't ever want
746
00:36:51,771 --> 00:36:55,003
to have to experience that
ever again,"
747
00:36:55,038 --> 00:36:56,642
and it was a fuel,
748
00:36:56,677 --> 00:36:59,645
it was a fuel
to want to stay small
749
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,287
and keep the privilege
that I was suddenly granted.
750
00:37:04,322 --> 00:37:06,487
I could move around in medicine
751
00:37:06,522 --> 00:37:08,984
without being questioned
in the same way.
752
00:37:09,019 --> 00:37:17,019
♪
753
00:37:17,896 --> 00:37:20,501
What I would say is
it took a very long time
754
00:37:20,536 --> 00:37:22,701
for the GP to take it seriously.
755
00:37:22,736 --> 00:37:25,605
It took the best part of nine,
756
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,277
10 months, something like that,
757
00:37:27,312 --> 00:37:29,378
but I remember
shouting at the GP
758
00:37:29,413 --> 00:37:31,490
saying, you know, "You've just
got to do something."
759
00:37:31,514 --> 00:37:34,042
And she said, "Your daughter
needs to come in on her own."
760
00:37:34,077 --> 00:37:35,176
Well, I thought, come on...
761
00:37:35,212 --> 00:37:36,825
- And that's the problem.
- Completely illogical.
762
00:37:36,849 --> 00:37:37,960
She can't come in on her own.
763
00:37:37,984 --> 00:37:40,752
That's the problem
with the way the system works
764
00:37:40,787 --> 00:37:43,557
is that I may have lost weight,
765
00:37:43,592 --> 00:37:45,988
but I wasn't at a critical BMI
766
00:37:46,023 --> 00:37:50,960
for the GP to take it
seriously enough.
767
00:37:50,995 --> 00:37:56,372
We've had BMI become
the dominant indicator
768
00:37:56,407 --> 00:37:59,067
through which
someone's health is assessed.
769
00:37:59,102 --> 00:38:01,674
BMI was originally designed
as a tool
770
00:38:01,709 --> 00:38:05,579
to broadly be applied
at the population level.
771
00:38:05,614 --> 00:38:08,615
It was never intended
that it would be used
772
00:38:08,650 --> 00:38:11,750
to diagnose an individual.
773
00:38:12,918 --> 00:38:15,358
It really did...
774
00:38:15,393 --> 00:38:17,525
So the longer it took
to get treatment,
775
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,428
the worse
the eating disorder got
776
00:38:19,463 --> 00:38:21,826
and the further
down the slope I fell,
777
00:38:21,861 --> 00:38:24,059
and I think... I obviously
didn't see it at the time.
778
00:38:24,094 --> 00:38:26,699
At the time, I was quite happy
to not go to the GP
779
00:38:26,734 --> 00:38:28,965
and didn't want any help.
780
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:37,000
♪
781
00:38:37,778 --> 00:38:41,978
♪ All I want is nothing more ♪
782
00:38:42,013 --> 00:38:45,113
♪
783
00:38:45,148 --> 00:38:49,392
♪ To see you knocking
on my door ♪
784
00:38:49,427 --> 00:38:57,427
♪
785
00:38:58,161 --> 00:39:01,899
But when I came from Berlin,
786
00:39:01,934 --> 00:39:03,868
one of the main differences is
787
00:39:03,903 --> 00:39:06,508
there's fast food everywhere,
788
00:39:06,543 --> 00:39:09,643
much more emphasized
than it is in Berlin,
789
00:39:09,678 --> 00:39:12,140
lots of little places,
pizza places.
790
00:39:12,175 --> 00:39:14,450
That's one thing
we don't have in Germany,
791
00:39:14,485 --> 00:39:18,113
or not a lot,
is the traditional pizza,
792
00:39:18,148 --> 00:39:22,425
the thick one that gets you
addicted really quickly.
793
00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:25,461
And also, there's
a couple of restaurants
794
00:39:25,496 --> 00:39:29,531
that are basically takeout only,
which is interesting.
795
00:39:29,566 --> 00:39:30,994
So what I think it is
796
00:39:31,029 --> 00:39:33,634
is that people enjoy
having the food
797
00:39:33,669 --> 00:39:35,163
in the comfort
of their own home,
798
00:39:35,198 --> 00:39:38,936
but they don't want to cook.
799
00:39:38,971 --> 00:39:42,478
But it is certainly something
that struck me as odd.
800
00:39:47,683 --> 00:39:50,453
Here in the UK,
I work in the night shift,
801
00:39:50,488 --> 00:39:53,423
so I come home
around 6:30 in the morning
802
00:39:53,458 --> 00:39:55,656
and I will have had lunch
at midnight,
803
00:39:55,691 --> 00:39:57,493
so usually I'm very hungry,
804
00:39:57,528 --> 00:39:59,088
but I'm also very tired.
805
00:39:59,123 --> 00:40:00,925
So when I have a big meal,
806
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,861
which other people
consider breakfast
807
00:40:02,896 --> 00:40:05,061
for me is dinner,
808
00:40:05,096 --> 00:40:08,801
that will then be
right before I go to bed.
809
00:40:08,836 --> 00:40:13,069
From what I've read
and what we think,
810
00:40:13,104 --> 00:40:14,906
that then goes
straight onto your hips
811
00:40:14,941 --> 00:40:17,645
and is very, very unhealthy.
812
00:40:25,182 --> 00:40:26,081
I have people being like,
813
00:40:26,117 --> 00:40:28,183
"Oh, you need
to stop eating junk food,"
814
00:40:28,218 --> 00:40:31,120
and it was like
a couple of remarks
815
00:40:31,155 --> 00:40:33,056
on videos I've made prior.
816
00:40:38,129 --> 00:40:40,635
Like, you're not paying for me.
817
00:40:40,670 --> 00:40:42,802
Like, if you're taking me out
and you're paying
818
00:40:42,837 --> 00:40:44,133
and I'm ordering a bit too much
819
00:40:44,168 --> 00:40:45,244
and the bill's
getting a bit much,
820
00:40:45,268 --> 00:40:46,367
yeah, say something,
821
00:40:46,403 --> 00:40:51,844
but if it's my hard-earned cash
that I'm spending,
822
00:40:51,879 --> 00:40:53,153
it's got nothing to do with you.
823
00:40:53,177 --> 00:40:56,882
I mean, it's got nothing
to do with you anyway.
824
00:40:56,917 --> 00:41:00,083
When I see an overweight person
825
00:41:00,118 --> 00:41:02,151
eating cake or a burger
826
00:41:02,186 --> 00:41:04,725
or something
considered unhealthy,
827
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,794
immediately
the judgmental part kicks in.
828
00:41:07,829 --> 00:41:09,664
You say, "Oh, they shouldn't
be eating this."
829
00:41:09,699 --> 00:41:11,633
Or, you know,
"Oh, where this is going,
830
00:41:11,668 --> 00:41:13,899
it's going to be
in good company."
831
00:41:13,934 --> 00:41:15,802
But then you also think,
832
00:41:15,837 --> 00:41:17,672
"Is this one burger,
is this one cake
833
00:41:17,707 --> 00:41:18,937
going to make a difference?"
834
00:41:18,972 --> 00:41:21,038
Where they are now,
where they're going,
835
00:41:21,073 --> 00:41:24,107
had they maybe had
a diet behind them,
836
00:41:24,142 --> 00:41:26,142
now they're rewarding themself
with this.
837
00:41:26,177 --> 00:41:33,919
♪
838
00:41:33,954 --> 00:41:35,855
I remember being
in a coffee shop once,
839
00:41:35,890 --> 00:41:38,154
and it was the first time I knew
840
00:41:38,189 --> 00:41:41,058
that I was receiving
thin privilege.
841
00:41:41,093 --> 00:41:44,127
And I was nowhere near
as small as I am now,
842
00:41:44,162 --> 00:41:48,538
but I was just heading into
that really restrictive phase,
843
00:41:48,573 --> 00:41:50,738
and the man behind the till
844
00:41:50,773 --> 00:41:52,971
said, "Do you want any cakes
with your coffee?"
845
00:41:53,006 --> 00:41:55,776
And I was like, "Oh, no,
I don't think we do, thank you."
846
00:41:55,811 --> 00:41:57,646
And he just said,
"You'd be amazed
847
00:41:57,681 --> 00:42:00,946
how many people have
these really sugary drinks
848
00:42:00,981 --> 00:42:03,586
and then massive slices
of cake,"
849
00:42:03,621 --> 00:42:06,655
and I was like, "Oh, um, yeah,
850
00:42:06,690 --> 00:42:08,723
I mean, I guess
if they want cake..."
851
00:42:08,758 --> 00:42:10,626
"Oh, yeah, but you should see
these people.
852
00:42:10,661 --> 00:42:12,232
I mean, I'm not talking
about people like you,
853
00:42:12,256 --> 00:42:14,795
you obviously
look after yourself,
854
00:42:14,830 --> 00:42:16,291
but you should see these..."
855
00:42:16,326 --> 00:42:18,326
And I just thought,
"Oh, my goodness,
856
00:42:18,361 --> 00:42:21,736
probably less
than six months previous,
857
00:42:21,771 --> 00:42:25,707
he would've had me down
as one of those people."
858
00:42:25,742 --> 00:42:28,270
Regardless of whether
I'd eaten the cake or not,
859
00:42:28,305 --> 00:42:31,581
he would've been making
those judgments about me.
860
00:42:34,113 --> 00:42:37,015
Thin privilege is something
I've enjoyed for a long time.
861
00:42:37,050 --> 00:42:40,150
Being tall and slim
gives me immediate authority,
862
00:42:40,185 --> 00:42:43,725
because people have
to physically look up to me,
863
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,861
which lessens the effect
that I need to explain myself.
864
00:42:47,896 --> 00:42:49,896
People don't question what I do.
865
00:42:49,931 --> 00:42:54,329
People trust me,
for some reason.
866
00:42:54,364 --> 00:42:57,134
And people immediately
assume authority
867
00:42:57,169 --> 00:42:58,068
coming from me,
868
00:42:58,104 --> 00:42:59,972
because I literally
speak down to them.
869
00:43:00,007 --> 00:43:02,337
Not because of the way I speak,
870
00:43:02,372 --> 00:43:04,944
just because they're a head
smaller than me.
871
00:43:07,751 --> 00:43:10,114
The thing that I find
really frustrating now
872
00:43:10,149 --> 00:43:12,248
is that people say to me
all the time,
873
00:43:12,283 --> 00:43:14,019
"You look really well."
874
00:43:14,054 --> 00:43:16,351
When I've got my clothes on,
I look like a nondisabled,
875
00:43:16,386 --> 00:43:18,991
cisgendered white woman
who is thin,
876
00:43:19,026 --> 00:43:20,993
and I receive
a lot of privilege,
877
00:43:21,028 --> 00:43:22,896
but actually my body
is very different
878
00:43:22,931 --> 00:43:24,733
to a lot of people's,
and I'm like,
879
00:43:24,768 --> 00:43:27,296
you should physically
have to live in my body,
880
00:43:27,331 --> 00:43:31,036
because I feel ill all the time,
881
00:43:31,071 --> 00:43:33,104
and my blood results
are terrible,
882
00:43:33,139 --> 00:43:34,809
and I'm horribly anemic,
883
00:43:34,844 --> 00:43:37,779
and there's absolutely nothing
I can do about any of it.
884
00:43:37,814 --> 00:43:41,277
And you think I look well
because I've put some makeup on
885
00:43:41,312 --> 00:43:43,147
and because I'm thin?
886
00:43:48,957 --> 00:43:50,121
It's become something
887
00:43:50,156 --> 00:43:52,189
that has become
a bit of an identity.
888
00:43:52,224 --> 00:43:54,961
And so our weight
has become our identity,
889
00:43:54,996 --> 00:43:56,897
and so we're less good
of a person
890
00:43:56,932 --> 00:43:58,360
if we're not thin.
891
00:43:58,395 --> 00:44:00,835
We deserve less,
we have less self-esteem.
892
00:44:00,870 --> 00:44:02,397
All these things
are well-documented
893
00:44:02,432 --> 00:44:05,268
as to the thought processes
that occur
894
00:44:05,303 --> 00:44:08,238
because of this thin ideal.
895
00:44:10,781 --> 00:44:13,914
The next train to arrive
at Platform 2
896
00:44:13,949 --> 00:44:18,688
in two minutes will be
service to all stations...
897
00:44:18,723 --> 00:44:22,890
And again, I'm like,
I'm so scared to go into KFC,
898
00:44:22,925 --> 00:44:24,727
because in my head,
they must be thinking,
899
00:44:24,762 --> 00:44:27,158
"Oh, fatty's here again.
900
00:44:27,193 --> 00:44:29,226
All the chicken wings
are gone, lads."
901
00:44:29,261 --> 00:44:31,360
That's what I feel.
902
00:44:31,395 --> 00:44:34,099
I am now believing
that my body is ugly
903
00:44:34,134 --> 00:44:35,837
and abusing it with food,
904
00:44:35,872 --> 00:44:40,204
so that's where health
should be spoken about.
905
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,105
Not, "Oh, you're fat,
906
00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:43,372
you're gonna die
of a heart attack."
907
00:44:43,407 --> 00:44:48,080
How did we get here?
908
00:44:48,115 --> 00:44:49,851
I think a lot of people
think that
909
00:44:49,886 --> 00:44:51,820
anti-fat bias
just has to do with thinking
910
00:44:51,855 --> 00:44:53,965
that fat people aren't pretty
or something like that.
911
00:44:53,989 --> 00:44:54,821
And sure, I mean,
912
00:44:54,857 --> 00:44:56,891
the attractiveness standard
is real,
913
00:44:56,926 --> 00:45:01,126
but anti-fat bias extends
to so many sectors of life:
914
00:45:01,161 --> 00:45:03,865
education, college admissions,
915
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:06,461
the amount of scholarship funds
that students are given.
916
00:45:06,496 --> 00:45:09,871
In the justice system,
there's research that shows
917
00:45:09,906 --> 00:45:12,434
that jurors are far more likely
to convict somebody
918
00:45:12,469 --> 00:45:15,910
who is of a larger body
than a thin person,
919
00:45:15,945 --> 00:45:18,407
and they're also subject
to harsher sentences
920
00:45:18,442 --> 00:45:20,211
and longer prison times,
921
00:45:20,246 --> 00:45:23,214
which is really wild
when you think about it.
922
00:45:23,249 --> 00:45:24,853
It's much more than just,
923
00:45:24,888 --> 00:45:26,789
"I don't like the way
that person looks."
924
00:45:26,824 --> 00:45:29,759
It really affects
all areas of life.
925
00:45:50,540 --> 00:45:53,145
Growing up, I...
926
00:45:53,180 --> 00:45:55,378
It was always made
very clear to me
927
00:45:55,413 --> 00:45:57,787
that I stood out,
928
00:45:57,822 --> 00:46:01,153
and my weight could
potentially be a problem
929
00:46:01,188 --> 00:46:03,155
getting a boyfriend.
930
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:06,323
My mom made it very clear
that being overweight,
931
00:46:06,358 --> 00:46:09,194
I was never gonna
get a boyfriend.
932
00:46:09,229 --> 00:46:11,361
I've been crushing on guys
for a long time,
933
00:46:11,396 --> 00:46:13,132
and I never experienced, like,
934
00:46:13,167 --> 00:46:16,399
my boyfriends that I had
in Dominican.
935
00:46:16,434 --> 00:46:17,807
Weight what?
936
00:46:17,842 --> 00:46:19,534
Weight wasn't an issue.
937
00:46:22,110 --> 00:46:27,982
♪
938
00:46:28,017 --> 00:46:31,953
But here... oh, my God,
939
00:46:31,988 --> 00:46:33,482
they do come into
the relationship
940
00:46:33,517 --> 00:46:36,089
like, "Yeah, I love all of you,"
941
00:46:36,124 --> 00:46:39,092
and I'm like, "Yeah,
and that's how it should be,"
942
00:46:39,127 --> 00:46:41,930
but some people genuinely
they can't help it,
943
00:46:41,965 --> 00:46:43,426
that's just their personality.
944
00:46:43,461 --> 00:46:45,065
They've been conditioned
by society,
945
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:47,969
and they do have subaggressions,
946
00:46:48,004 --> 00:46:51,467
you know, towards fat bodies
and have fat phobia
947
00:46:51,502 --> 00:46:54,602
without actually saying
that they have fat phobia.
948
00:46:54,637 --> 00:46:58,177
And if you get into
a little argument,
949
00:46:58,212 --> 00:47:01,576
guess what, if the argument
probably is about your car,
950
00:47:01,611 --> 00:47:04,315
guess what, it might
come into your weight.
951
00:47:04,350 --> 00:47:06,020
Why? Tell me why.
952
00:47:06,055 --> 00:47:07,055
Tell me why.
953
00:47:09,652 --> 00:47:15,491
I think dating in 2019,
954
00:47:15,526 --> 00:47:17,097
it's shit for everyone.
955
00:47:17,132 --> 00:47:19,033
Like, I'm not even gonna
put it on my weight,
956
00:47:19,068 --> 00:47:20,870
'cause the thing is,
it's not that I don't
957
00:47:20,905 --> 00:47:23,631
get a lot of attention, I do...
958
00:47:23,666 --> 00:47:25,204
I mean, I live in London
959
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,305
where nobody speaks
to one another,
960
00:47:27,340 --> 00:47:29,406
so it's all on the internet.
961
00:47:29,441 --> 00:47:33,080
And the thing is,
you do get guys who are there,
962
00:47:33,115 --> 00:47:36,182
and they wouldn't want
to take you out,
963
00:47:36,217 --> 00:47:39,383
but they wanna come over
for Netflix and chill,
964
00:47:39,418 --> 00:47:42,485
and always come to mine,
and just like,
965
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,553
I watch too many
true crime documentaries
966
00:47:44,588 --> 00:47:47,391
to know that
this is not gonna happen.
967
00:47:54,939 --> 00:47:57,566
We fetishize
this whole snap-back thing
968
00:47:57,601 --> 00:47:59,337
after having a kid,
969
00:47:59,372 --> 00:48:02,571
but most women don't,
and it really, really bugs me.
970
00:48:02,606 --> 00:48:05,607
Again, it's another thing
that I've sort of attached
971
00:48:05,642 --> 00:48:07,048
to having a child.
972
00:48:07,083 --> 00:48:08,214
I'm scared to have a child,
973
00:48:08,249 --> 00:48:11,052
because I'm scared that...
974
00:48:11,087 --> 00:48:12,559
There's not...
I don't know exactly what
975
00:48:12,583 --> 00:48:14,616
I'm gonna snap back to!
976
00:48:14,651 --> 00:48:17,025
Nothing snaps that much anyway,
977
00:48:17,060 --> 00:48:20,292
so how, if I have a child...
978
00:48:20,327 --> 00:48:22,063
Will I still be pretty?
979
00:48:22,098 --> 00:48:25,330
Will I be ugly? I don't know!
980
00:48:29,666 --> 00:48:32,238
I think every time
I look in the mirror,
981
00:48:32,273 --> 00:48:33,679
I'm glad someone else
puts more effort
982
00:48:33,703 --> 00:48:35,373
into looking good than I do.
983
00:48:35,408 --> 00:48:36,485
Coming from
the male perspective,
984
00:48:36,509 --> 00:48:40,213
we consider women to be
the more beautiful gender.
985
00:48:40,248 --> 00:48:42,215
So we appreciate that.
986
00:48:42,250 --> 00:48:45,053
But I would never force a woman
987
00:48:45,088 --> 00:48:48,320
to dress a certain way,
to eat a certain way
988
00:48:48,355 --> 00:48:51,455
to make her look different.
989
00:48:51,490 --> 00:48:55,360
It is something that is
ingrained into our culture
990
00:48:55,395 --> 00:48:58,396
is that women need to look good.
991
00:48:58,431 --> 00:49:02,136
They need to wear makeup,
they need to do their hair.
992
00:49:04,569 --> 00:49:06,041
Do they need to do that?
993
00:49:06,076 --> 00:49:08,208
No, they do not need to do that.
994
00:49:08,243 --> 00:49:11,310
But it is much appreciated.
995
00:49:11,345 --> 00:49:12,652
The woman out there
that's been rated
996
00:49:12,676 --> 00:49:14,412
the ugliest person in the world,
997
00:49:14,447 --> 00:49:18,416
who the fuck told the people
doing the judging and assessing
998
00:49:18,451 --> 00:49:20,451
that they were beautiful
in the first place?
999
00:49:20,486 --> 00:49:22,453
Media!
1000
00:49:22,488 --> 00:49:25,489
That's why we...
We need to defriend
1001
00:49:25,524 --> 00:49:29,592
some of these Caucasian
British men.
1002
00:49:29,627 --> 00:49:31,462
British, to be exact,
1003
00:49:31,497 --> 00:49:35,103
because they started
all the problems.
1004
00:49:40,473 --> 00:49:42,605
Diet culture does
disproportionately affect women
1005
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,377
more than men,
and there is an element
1006
00:49:45,412 --> 00:49:49,183
to diet culture coming
from a patriarchal society
1007
00:49:49,218 --> 00:49:52,219
where women are told
what they should look like.
1008
00:49:52,254 --> 00:49:54,782
And a lot of the time,
that has been from men.
1009
00:49:54,817 --> 00:49:56,619
And so I think
it's very appropriate
1010
00:49:56,654 --> 00:49:59,787
that feminism in general
touches on diet culture
1011
00:49:59,822 --> 00:50:02,229
and definitely has a role
to play in combating it.
1012
00:50:02,264 --> 00:50:04,462
♪
1013
00:50:04,497 --> 00:50:07,498
Evidence shows
that we can go back 30 years
1014
00:50:07,533 --> 00:50:10,699
and women experiencing
body image concern
1015
00:50:10,734 --> 00:50:12,239
is quite common,
1016
00:50:12,274 --> 00:50:13,548
so much so that in the research,
1017
00:50:13,572 --> 00:50:15,110
we talk about it as normative
1018
00:50:15,145 --> 00:50:17,673
and we say
"normative discontent,"
1019
00:50:17,708 --> 00:50:21,545
but I think just because
something is normal or common,
1020
00:50:21,580 --> 00:50:22,746
it doesn't mean it's okay.
1021
00:50:22,781 --> 00:50:26,088
It doesn't mean it's benign
and without consequence.
1022
00:50:26,123 --> 00:50:29,223
And we live in a society
where beauty standards
1023
00:50:29,258 --> 00:50:30,818
are so narrow,
and for most people,
1024
00:50:30,853 --> 00:50:32,622
completely unattainable.
1025
00:50:32,657 --> 00:50:35,757
♪
1026
00:50:35,792 --> 00:50:38,133
Isn't it interesting, though,
how it's always women
1027
00:50:38,168 --> 00:50:40,399
talking about feeling bloated
and not men?
1028
00:50:40,434 --> 00:50:42,467
My top tips
to reduce bloating...
1029
00:50:42,502 --> 00:50:46,603
To help reduce bloating
and reduce your belly bloating,
1030
00:50:46,638 --> 00:50:49,144
it almost immediately
causes bloating...
1031
00:50:49,179 --> 00:50:51,311
Seven tips on how to debloat.
1032
00:50:51,346 --> 00:50:53,214
Bloat's still there!
1033
00:50:53,249 --> 00:50:55,843
- It's poking out.
- Adding our flat tummy teas...
1034
00:50:55,878 --> 00:50:57,581
Hasta la vista, bloating!
1035
00:50:57,616 --> 00:50:58,747
Good luck.
1036
00:50:58,782 --> 00:51:00,815
Men have a different way
of seeing it.
1037
00:51:00,850 --> 00:51:03,455
If men are bloated,
they make fun of it.
1038
00:51:03,490 --> 00:51:05,787
It becomes a party game
for them.
1039
00:51:05,822 --> 00:51:08,526
Whereas, when women are bloated,
they feel embarrassed.
1040
00:51:08,561 --> 00:51:10,462
But, since I cannot think
like a woman,
1041
00:51:10,497 --> 00:51:12,761
that's a very difficult
question to answer.
1042
00:51:12,796 --> 00:51:15,203
Everything that is
marketed towards women
1043
00:51:15,238 --> 00:51:16,435
which is anti-bloating,
1044
00:51:16,470 --> 00:51:17,733
it's really just telling women
1045
00:51:17,768 --> 00:51:19,174
that they should be eating less,
1046
00:51:19,209 --> 00:51:20,252
that they need to be hungry,
1047
00:51:20,276 --> 00:51:22,342
that they need to be starving
1048
00:51:22,377 --> 00:51:25,114
in order to embody
this aesthetic ideal.
1049
00:51:25,149 --> 00:51:26,313
♪
1050
00:51:26,348 --> 00:51:28,282
From a marketing perspective,
1051
00:51:28,317 --> 00:51:30,779
of course they go
with what works,
1052
00:51:30,814 --> 00:51:34,123
what has worked in the past,
what is still working.
1053
00:51:34,158 --> 00:51:35,421
So if you have that market
1054
00:51:35,456 --> 00:51:37,654
and you tap that market
and it works,
1055
00:51:37,689 --> 00:51:39,293
why should you stop?
1056
00:51:39,328 --> 00:51:44,628
♪
1057
00:51:44,663 --> 00:51:48,500
Where does this idea come from
that it's a male conspiracy,
1058
00:51:48,535 --> 00:51:53,208
that it's a male idea
to keep women in their place,
1059
00:51:53,243 --> 00:51:55,573
have them take up less space?
1060
00:51:55,608 --> 00:51:58,510
♪
1061
00:51:58,545 --> 00:51:59,808
Like, really genuinely,
1062
00:51:59,843 --> 00:52:02,415
I think it started
with capitalism.
1063
00:52:02,450 --> 00:52:03,746
I think people recognized
1064
00:52:03,781 --> 00:52:05,649
that there was a way
to make money
1065
00:52:05,684 --> 00:52:07,354
out of people
who didn't feel great
1066
00:52:07,389 --> 00:52:08,817
about themselves.
1067
00:52:08,852 --> 00:52:11,655
It started with
middle class white men
1068
00:52:11,690 --> 00:52:14,625
who recognized that
there was a market
1069
00:52:14,660 --> 00:52:18,365
and a profoundly successful one,
1070
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,797
the diet industry
makes billions every year
1071
00:52:21,832 --> 00:52:25,603
on women feeling insignificant
1072
00:52:25,638 --> 00:52:27,242
and like they need
to do something
1073
00:52:27,277 --> 00:52:29,574
in order to make themselves
better.
1074
00:52:29,609 --> 00:52:32,676
♪
1075
00:52:32,711 --> 00:52:37,450
It's easy to blame
some unknown entity
1076
00:52:37,485 --> 00:52:40,387
and put the face
of a white man on it.
1077
00:52:40,422 --> 00:52:42,653
Everyone loves targeting us.
1078
00:52:42,688 --> 00:52:46,657
But there is
no actual proof of that.
1079
00:52:46,692 --> 00:52:50,694
There is no board of white men
sitting on top of the world
1080
00:52:50,729 --> 00:52:53,433
saying, "Oh, we need
to have these things."
1081
00:52:53,468 --> 00:52:56,436
I'm certainly not a part of it,
and I'm not aware of it,
1082
00:52:56,471 --> 00:52:58,834
so I don't know if that is true.
1083
00:52:58,869 --> 00:53:01,573
The issue is that
it runs deeper than that,
1084
00:53:01,608 --> 00:53:03,740
and it's not just something
about specific words,
1085
00:53:03,775 --> 00:53:05,478
it's actions as well.
1086
00:53:05,513 --> 00:53:08,943
And so, when you have a society
that values women's looks
1087
00:53:08,978 --> 00:53:10,681
based on a certain ideal,
1088
00:53:10,716 --> 00:53:13,750
men then start
valuing those looks as well,
1089
00:53:13,785 --> 00:53:18,425
and so women who look that way
get more attention from men.
1090
00:53:18,460 --> 00:53:21,791
I'm not here to say
that it's current men's fault
1091
00:53:21,826 --> 00:53:24,464
that that's going on,
but I think that as men,
1092
00:53:24,499 --> 00:53:27,632
we need to recognize
where it's come from.
1093
00:53:27,667 --> 00:53:32,274
And I don't think
that we have to disregard it
1094
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:33,704
to kind of protect ourselves,
1095
00:53:33,739 --> 00:53:36,839
and I do see a lot of men,
unfortunately, using the phrase,
1096
00:53:36,874 --> 00:53:37,973
"Well, it's not me,
1097
00:53:38,009 --> 00:53:40,513
so therefore why do I need
to be worried about that?"
1098
00:53:40,548 --> 00:53:42,845
Or, "It's not all men,"
and that's...
1099
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,451
I don't think that's helpful.
1100
00:53:49,425 --> 00:53:51,260
I remember that situation
1101
00:53:51,295 --> 00:53:53,526
where, in that
particular relationship,
1102
00:53:53,561 --> 00:53:55,660
they were now concerned
about my health
1103
00:53:55,695 --> 00:53:57,596
after we were dating
for a while,
1104
00:53:57,631 --> 00:54:01,369
because they did something
that I didn't like.
1105
00:54:01,404 --> 00:54:05,274
And one time we were driving
from seeing their stepfather,
1106
00:54:05,309 --> 00:54:06,968
parked outside my house,
1107
00:54:07,003 --> 00:54:10,279
and they commented
on the meal that I had
1108
00:54:10,314 --> 00:54:13,282
throughout the days
like they were supervising me.
1109
00:54:13,317 --> 00:54:15,042
They were my weight watchers.
1110
00:54:18,883 --> 00:54:21,917
And they said,
"Oh, this you had,
1111
00:54:21,952 --> 00:54:24,425
the plantain da-da-da
that you had.
1112
00:54:24,460 --> 00:54:25,526
It was quite sweet,
1113
00:54:25,561 --> 00:54:28,462
and I think you should
really think about what you eat
1114
00:54:28,497 --> 00:54:30,607
because you know, I'm just
concerned about your health."
1115
00:54:30,631 --> 00:54:32,796
I'm like, "You're concerned
about my health?
1116
00:54:32,831 --> 00:54:33,896
Get lost."
1117
00:54:33,931 --> 00:54:36,503
And then I realized
that, obviously,
1118
00:54:36,538 --> 00:54:39,704
someone who's always
concerned about my health
1119
00:54:39,739 --> 00:54:42,443
is not really concerned
about my health.
1120
00:54:42,478 --> 00:54:48,350
♪
1121
00:54:48,385 --> 00:54:50,880
If you had to ask
the general public,
1122
00:54:50,915 --> 00:54:55,489
um, "obesity" or "anorexia,"
1123
00:54:55,524 --> 00:54:58,492
guarantee that most of them
would choose anorexia,
1124
00:54:58,527 --> 00:55:01,330
majority, which is sad.
1125
00:55:01,365 --> 00:55:04,025
It's very heartbreaking
because that is how...
1126
00:55:04,060 --> 00:55:06,533
That's how heavy,
ha, excuse the pun,
1127
00:55:06,568 --> 00:55:09,668
um, the stigma is.
1128
00:55:09,703 --> 00:55:12,066
That is how heavy...
1129
00:55:12,101 --> 00:55:14,409
I make myself laugh.
1130
00:55:14,444 --> 00:55:16,477
That's how... that's
how intense the stigma is,
1131
00:55:16,512 --> 00:55:19,876
and that is a shame
because it should be 50/50,
1132
00:55:19,911 --> 00:55:22,747
because to some degree
both are unhealthy,
1133
00:55:22,782 --> 00:55:24,452
both have health risks.
1134
00:55:28,392 --> 00:55:32,724
I think diet culture
is so present in our society,
1135
00:55:32,759 --> 00:55:34,495
though, that it's hard
to realize,
1136
00:55:34,530 --> 00:55:37,564
like, the fact
that we have calorie labels
1137
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:39,467
on every single snack bar.
1138
00:55:39,502 --> 00:55:42,503
That in a way is... it's kind of
hindering to diet culture
1139
00:55:42,538 --> 00:55:44,142
because it's telling you
you can have this snack
1140
00:55:44,166 --> 00:55:45,671
because it's
a low-calorie snack,
1141
00:55:45,706 --> 00:55:49,444
or the fact that shops
are selling clothes size
1142
00:55:49,479 --> 00:55:51,006
that are all really quite small
1143
00:55:51,041 --> 00:55:52,843
and don't really cater
for larger bodies.
1144
00:55:52,878 --> 00:55:56,715
That, again, I feel, is
kind of part of diet culture.
1145
00:55:56,750 --> 00:55:57,925
It's something
that, as a society,
1146
00:55:57,949 --> 00:55:59,025
we really need to think about
1147
00:55:59,049 --> 00:56:00,215
because if we're not careful,
1148
00:56:00,250 --> 00:56:04,393
we are just going to end up
promoting disordered eating
1149
00:56:04,428 --> 00:56:06,054
or body dissatisfaction
1150
00:56:06,089 --> 00:56:08,562
because people are gonna feel
more and more unhappy
1151
00:56:08,597 --> 00:56:11,961
if society is making them
feel that way.
1152
00:56:11,996 --> 00:56:19,996
♪
1153
00:56:26,846 --> 00:56:29,176
As soon as I saw the mannequin,
1154
00:56:29,211 --> 00:56:32,179
I just thought
it was like a breakthrough.
1155
00:56:32,214 --> 00:56:35,523
Maybe I was a bit naive
in thinking
1156
00:56:35,558 --> 00:56:38,955
if a brand like Nike,
with the reputation
1157
00:56:38,990 --> 00:56:41,760
and the name they have globally,
1158
00:56:41,795 --> 00:56:45,698
if they invested
and put in a bigger model
1159
00:56:45,733 --> 00:56:49,504
that actually looks like
a fat body,
1160
00:56:49,539 --> 00:56:51,968
to sort of be proud and say,
1161
00:56:52,003 --> 00:56:55,103
"We do plus-size
athletic wear."
1162
00:56:55,138 --> 00:56:58,513
But a small part of me
was like, "Right,
1163
00:56:58,548 --> 00:57:00,174
let's just wait, let's just wait
1164
00:57:00,209 --> 00:57:03,914
because someone is gonna have
something to say about this."
1165
00:57:03,949 --> 00:57:06,213
- Nike slammed for...
- Obese mannequins...
1166
00:57:06,248 --> 00:57:08,182
- are selling women...
- a dangerous lie.
1167
00:57:08,217 --> 00:57:10,987
- Weighty issue.
- Nike snapped.
1168
00:57:11,022 --> 00:57:13,924
- Normalizing obesity...
- with plus-size mannequins...
1169
00:57:13,959 --> 00:57:15,090
in their London store.
1170
00:57:15,125 --> 00:57:16,795
The new mannequin is obese.
1171
00:57:16,830 --> 00:57:18,731
And she is not
readying herself...
1172
00:57:18,766 --> 00:57:20,733
for a run
in her shiny Nike gear.
1173
00:57:20,768 --> 00:57:22,801
She cannot run,
she is more likely...
1174
00:57:22,836 --> 00:57:25,199
prediabetic and on her way
to a hip replacement.
1175
00:57:25,234 --> 00:57:27,003
What terrible cynicism
is this...
1176
00:57:27,038 --> 00:57:29,577
on the part of Nike.
1177
00:57:29,612 --> 00:57:33,240
Everyone's just like,
"Well, I work hard to stay thin,
1178
00:57:33,275 --> 00:57:37,244
and I go to the gym,
and I have self-control,"
1179
00:57:37,279 --> 00:57:40,148
and it's just like,
1180
00:57:40,183 --> 00:57:43,217
one, what makes you think
I don't have self-control,
1181
00:57:43,252 --> 00:57:46,891
and I don't go to the gym,
and I don't work out?
1182
00:57:46,926 --> 00:57:49,597
You think that I sit on my ass
and I eat what I want,
1183
00:57:49,632 --> 00:57:50,664
I don't go to the gym,
1184
00:57:50,699 --> 00:57:52,259
and I don't work as hard as you
1185
00:57:52,294 --> 00:57:55,867
because my body
apparently told you that.
1186
00:58:00,203 --> 00:58:03,908
♪
1187
00:58:03,943 --> 00:58:06,240
The most common theme
in the fitness industry,
1188
00:58:06,275 --> 00:58:10,178
in general, is weight loss.
1189
00:58:10,213 --> 00:58:12,752
We're obsessed by it,
it's literally the only thing
1190
00:58:12,787 --> 00:58:14,116
that people work on.
1191
00:58:14,151 --> 00:58:17,526
So many guys
who hypermasculize themselves
1192
00:58:17,561 --> 00:58:20,694
and all these girls
hypersexualize themselves.
1193
00:58:20,729 --> 00:58:23,796
Everything is about
how we look seemingly
1194
00:58:23,831 --> 00:58:24,697
in today's day and age.
1195
00:58:24,732 --> 00:58:28,295
We've lose the art
of how we feel.
1196
00:58:28,330 --> 00:58:30,836
That seems so far removed
in today's day and age,
1197
00:58:30,871 --> 00:58:32,673
which is a really sad thing.
1198
00:58:32,708 --> 00:58:35,170
♪
1199
00:58:35,205 --> 00:58:38,679
I go to the gym
and I exercise and I enjoy it,
1200
00:58:38,714 --> 00:58:42,045
you know, and I still have
a fat body.
1201
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:48,282
And until we achieve
this goal of thinness,
1202
00:58:48,317 --> 00:58:50,317
we're not gonna be
treated with respect,
1203
00:58:50,352 --> 00:58:51,923
and we're not gonna be
treated human,
1204
00:58:51,958 --> 00:58:53,892
and we're not gonna be
treated nicely,
1205
00:58:53,927 --> 00:58:55,223
and we're gonna be shamed,
1206
00:58:55,258 --> 00:58:56,807
and we're gonna be told
we're gonna die
1207
00:58:56,831 --> 00:58:58,160
unless we lose weight.
1208
00:58:58,195 --> 00:59:00,866
But you can't put
a fat mannequin.
1209
00:59:00,901 --> 00:59:05,706
You can't simply show
a fat body and promote that
1210
00:59:05,741 --> 00:59:09,039
because then you're promoting
staying fat, and it...
1211
00:59:09,074 --> 00:59:13,813
It is literally
the wildest conversation
1212
00:59:13,848 --> 00:59:17,652
I've ever, ever had
and read up on,
1213
00:59:17,687 --> 00:59:21,249
'cause it was just
the most hypocritical thing.
1214
00:59:21,284 --> 00:59:24,659
♪
1215
00:59:24,694 --> 00:59:25,935
We need to start
asking ourselves
1216
00:59:25,959 --> 00:59:27,103
some really important questions.
1217
00:59:27,127 --> 00:59:30,962
And, so, how do we view people
who are larger in size?
1218
00:59:30,997 --> 00:59:33,030
What are our beliefs
around their lifestyle?
1219
00:59:33,065 --> 00:59:35,164
For example,
what are our beliefs
1220
00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:39,366
about how they are as people
and their character?
1221
00:59:39,401 --> 00:59:41,742
I think, at the moment,
it's still
1222
00:59:41,777 --> 00:59:43,304
a topic of contention for people
1223
00:59:43,339 --> 00:59:45,273
that they're unwilling
to talk about
1224
00:59:45,308 --> 00:59:46,945
because they're afraid
1225
00:59:46,980 --> 00:59:48,353
that when they start
talking about it,
1226
00:59:48,377 --> 00:59:49,959
it's gonna challenge
some of the ideals
1227
00:59:49,983 --> 00:59:51,246
and the beliefs that they have.
1228
00:59:51,281 --> 00:59:52,951
And we don't like our ideals
1229
00:59:52,986 --> 00:59:54,293
and our beliefs
being challenged.
1230
00:59:54,317 --> 00:59:56,185
It's not something we like.
1231
00:59:56,220 --> 00:59:57,824
It's hard.
1232
00:59:57,859 --> 00:59:59,694
It goes back to
that willingness to be wrong.
1233
00:59:59,729 --> 01:00:01,663
We don't like being wrong.
1234
01:00:01,698 --> 01:00:03,962
And that's okay, that's
kind of normal psychology.
1235
01:00:03,997 --> 01:00:06,767
We like to be right about stuff.
1236
01:00:06,802 --> 01:00:14,802
♪
1237
01:00:16,438 --> 01:00:18,680
Please, can I get the cupcake
with the strawberry,
1238
01:00:18,715 --> 01:00:21,342
- the strawberry one?
- Yes.
1239
01:00:21,377 --> 01:00:24,950
I'm able to analyze
my relationship with food
1240
01:00:24,985 --> 01:00:26,853
and say, "Oh, okay,
well, it's okay
1241
01:00:26,888 --> 01:00:29,691
if you want to eat this,
but why are you eating?
1242
01:00:29,726 --> 01:00:30,967
Why are you being
so excessive?"
1243
01:00:30,991 --> 01:00:32,694
I caught myself.
1244
01:00:32,729 --> 01:00:34,674
I think I'd been stressing
about something on the train.
1245
01:00:34,698 --> 01:00:37,391
I called my friend to speak
to her about the stress,
1246
01:00:37,426 --> 01:00:38,733
and I went to Tesco
1247
01:00:38,768 --> 01:00:40,427
and all I wanted to buy
was snacks.
1248
01:00:40,462 --> 01:00:44,200
So I said, "Oh, okay, so this
is where we just sort of...
1249
01:00:44,235 --> 01:00:46,741
Hmm, what's
really happening here?
1250
01:00:46,776 --> 01:00:50,008
Why do you associate food
with comfort?"
1251
01:00:50,043 --> 01:00:52,010
And that's simply
just because of all the neglect
1252
01:00:52,045 --> 01:00:53,748
I experienced in my childhood.
1253
01:00:53,783 --> 01:00:55,783
So, therefore, Mr. NHS,
1254
01:00:55,818 --> 01:00:58,049
you don't need to talk
to fat people about being fat.
1255
01:00:58,084 --> 01:00:59,380
You need to talk to people
1256
01:00:59,415 --> 01:01:01,250
about their childhood
and their trauma.
1257
01:01:01,285 --> 01:01:05,254
That is the health
that you should focus on.
1258
01:01:13,495 --> 01:01:14,736
♪
1259
01:01:14,771 --> 01:01:16,705
I feel pressure to go to the gym
1260
01:01:16,740 --> 01:01:19,807
just to bulk up, to eat cleaner,
1261
01:01:19,842 --> 01:01:25,175
to shun those evil carbs
and get more protein in.
1262
01:01:25,210 --> 01:01:28,079
It's something... it's being
repeated so often,
1263
01:01:28,114 --> 01:01:30,180
it becomes part of your way
of thinking,
1264
01:01:30,215 --> 01:01:31,895
and you really need
to invest some energy
1265
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,184
to get out of this.
1266
01:01:38,388 --> 01:01:39,761
Someone will come to me and say,
1267
01:01:39,796 --> 01:01:41,356
"Oh, I want to look like this,"
1268
01:01:41,391 --> 01:01:43,798
and they'll show me a picture
of a guy in a magazine
1269
01:01:43,833 --> 01:01:45,503
or someone that they've seen
on Instagram,
1270
01:01:45,527 --> 01:01:47,835
and I'll say,
"Why? Why is that?"
1271
01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:50,079
Because that's a big thing,
it's a very powerful question
1272
01:01:50,103 --> 01:01:52,367
to ask a client is the "why."
1273
01:01:52,402 --> 01:01:55,073
Now, for a lot of people
it is just an external source
1274
01:01:55,108 --> 01:01:57,141
of, "Oh, I just want
to look like that."
1275
01:01:57,176 --> 01:01:59,088
Well, then you've really got
to do some more digging
1276
01:01:59,112 --> 01:02:01,849
to find out why that is,
and nine times out of ten,
1277
01:02:01,884 --> 01:02:04,819
it'll be because they have
suffered self-esteem issues
1278
01:02:04,854 --> 01:02:06,513
or body image issues
1279
01:02:06,548 --> 01:02:09,120
or they've grown up
feeling insecure
1280
01:02:09,155 --> 01:02:10,418
compared to X, Y, and Z.
1281
01:02:10,453 --> 01:02:11,793
So, suddenly, they're the things
1282
01:02:11,828 --> 01:02:12,727
you've got to be working on.
1283
01:02:12,763 --> 01:02:14,136
You've got to be
helping them up here.
1284
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,424
No diet will ever fix
that problem.
1285
01:02:21,101 --> 01:02:23,398
Basically, everyone strives
to be in the shape
1286
01:02:23,433 --> 01:02:26,368
of the stage bodybuilder,
which is unrealistic.
1287
01:02:26,403 --> 01:02:28,007
Not even bodybuilders
are in that shape
1288
01:02:28,042 --> 01:02:29,305
all of the time.
1289
01:02:29,340 --> 01:02:32,814
But this is what
we strive to have.
1290
01:02:35,181 --> 01:02:36,279
Make some noise!
1291
01:02:39,449 --> 01:02:41,152
Being a pro bodybuilder
is tough,
1292
01:02:41,187 --> 01:02:44,188
you know, it's not easy.
1293
01:02:44,223 --> 01:02:46,355
Now, that's it, flex it.
1294
01:02:48,898 --> 01:02:51,932
How much chicken fillet
do you eat in a day?
1295
01:02:51,967 --> 01:02:53,560
Uh, about 1.5 kilos.
1296
01:02:53,595 --> 01:02:55,870
- 1.5 kilos?
- Yeah.
1297
01:02:55,905 --> 01:02:59,973
Not having another gram more
of almonds,
1298
01:03:00,008 --> 01:03:03,141
not having another half
a bowl of oatmeal
1299
01:03:03,176 --> 01:03:05,539
when you're hungry, you know?
1300
01:03:05,574 --> 01:03:08,014
Not doing it, and not doing it,
1301
01:03:08,049 --> 01:03:10,918
not doing it
for a period of time.
1302
01:03:10,953 --> 01:03:15,450
We're talking about 10,
11, 12, 13 weeks.
1303
01:03:15,485 --> 01:03:18,090
♪
1304
01:03:18,125 --> 01:03:19,223
Nobody thought about bod...
1305
01:03:19,258 --> 01:03:20,895
They wouldn't even talk to us.
1306
01:03:20,930 --> 01:03:22,292
But after Pumping Iron,
1307
01:03:22,327 --> 01:03:24,998
it really changed
the face of bodybuilding.
1308
01:03:25,033 --> 01:03:27,869
All the world was pumping iron.
1309
01:03:27,904 --> 01:03:30,168
It was great to say
pumping iron.
1310
01:03:30,203 --> 01:03:35,140
I mean, gyms were popping up
all over the United States.
1311
01:03:35,175 --> 01:03:36,944
♪
1312
01:03:36,979 --> 01:03:39,474
We're looking at physique sports
1313
01:03:39,509 --> 01:03:42,477
that, once upon a time,
were confined to
1314
01:03:42,512 --> 01:03:46,481
a fairly small subset of people
that were interested in it.
1315
01:03:46,516 --> 01:03:50,287
And we've seen
this mainstreaming of practices
1316
01:03:50,322 --> 01:03:53,323
involving very restrictive
meal plans,
1317
01:03:53,358 --> 01:03:55,930
counting calories
and macronutrients,
1318
01:03:55,965 --> 01:03:57,899
but more particularly,
1319
01:03:57,934 --> 01:04:00,363
it's the emphasis on looking
1320
01:04:00,398 --> 01:04:03,069
the way that bodybuilders
might look on stage
1321
01:04:03,104 --> 01:04:05,203
at a very low level of body fat.
1322
01:04:05,238 --> 01:04:06,941
For both men and women,
1323
01:04:06,976 --> 01:04:09,075
that has become a cultural norm,
1324
01:04:09,110 --> 01:04:12,474
that has become something
that people portray
1325
01:04:12,509 --> 01:04:15,048
through their social media
every day,
1326
01:04:15,083 --> 01:04:19,019
and it fails to,
1327
01:04:19,054 --> 01:04:21,516
I think, represent
that most people
1328
01:04:21,551 --> 01:04:23,386
get into that type of condition
1329
01:04:23,421 --> 01:04:25,619
once or twice a year for a show.
1330
01:04:25,654 --> 01:04:28,996
What they tend to do, then,
is have two to three days
1331
01:04:29,031 --> 01:04:31,493
of photo shoots
and then simply drip-feed
1332
01:04:31,528 --> 01:04:33,330
those photographs out
onto social media
1333
01:04:33,365 --> 01:04:34,936
for the next year.
1334
01:04:34,971 --> 01:04:36,608
That gives the impression
to ordinary people
1335
01:04:36,632 --> 01:04:39,171
that this particular person
looks like this
1336
01:04:39,206 --> 01:04:42,141
day in and day out.
1337
01:04:42,176 --> 01:04:44,979
♪
1338
01:04:45,014 --> 01:04:46,585
There are a lot of people
in the fitness industry
1339
01:04:46,609 --> 01:04:50,479
who are abusing steroids,
which will give you
1340
01:04:50,514 --> 01:04:53,251
unsustainable results
unless you participate
1341
01:04:53,286 --> 01:04:55,220
in taking them yourself.
1342
01:04:55,255 --> 01:04:57,354
So many people promote something
1343
01:04:57,389 --> 01:04:59,059
that your average Joe and Jane
1344
01:04:59,094 --> 01:05:01,160
will never ever
be able to obtain,
1345
01:05:01,195 --> 01:05:04,064
and that's my biggest problem.
1346
01:05:04,099 --> 01:05:11,500
♪
1347
01:05:11,535 --> 01:05:15,108
I don't think people
always truly appreciate
1348
01:05:15,143 --> 01:05:17,143
the psychological restrictions
1349
01:05:17,178 --> 01:05:19,574
that a lot of us
still place on our lives,
1350
01:05:19,609 --> 01:05:21,543
things like,
"Oh, I must go for a run
1351
01:05:21,578 --> 01:05:23,578
because I've eaten this today,"
1352
01:05:23,613 --> 01:05:25,613
or, "Oh, I've had this
for breakfast,
1353
01:05:25,648 --> 01:05:28,154
so I'm not gonna have this
with my dinner," or...
1354
01:05:28,189 --> 01:05:32,961
There's still a lot of
residual internalized dialogue
1355
01:05:32,996 --> 01:05:35,458
that we've lived with
our entire lives,
1356
01:05:35,493 --> 01:05:37,229
that we heard our mom say,
1357
01:05:37,264 --> 01:05:39,429
that we heard
our grandparents say,
1358
01:05:39,464 --> 01:05:41,431
that our friends
still talk about,
1359
01:05:41,466 --> 01:05:44,236
that's happening in the office
when we're at work.
1360
01:05:44,271 --> 01:05:46,634
So those kinds of
mental restrictions,
1361
01:05:46,669 --> 01:05:51,540
they're an awful lot harder
to get away from.
1362
01:05:51,575 --> 01:05:54,081
♪
1363
01:05:54,116 --> 01:05:57,612
I was really forced to face
what was going on,
1364
01:05:57,647 --> 01:05:58,613
and I think
that's when I realized
1365
01:05:58,648 --> 01:05:59,988
something had to change
1366
01:06:00,023 --> 01:06:02,122
because I couldn't
do this again.
1367
01:06:02,157 --> 01:06:03,354
I'd been in hospital twice,
1368
01:06:03,389 --> 01:06:07,622
and it's a very intense
environment.
1369
01:06:07,657 --> 01:06:09,756
♪
1370
01:06:09,791 --> 01:06:14,068
The start of my recovery journey
1371
01:06:14,103 --> 01:06:16,697
was recognizing
that what I was doing
1372
01:06:16,732 --> 01:06:20,074
wasn't serving me
and was making me so unhappy.
1373
01:06:20,109 --> 01:06:22,769
So, to be in your early twenties
1374
01:06:22,804 --> 01:06:25,178
and to be in a position
where you're considering
1375
01:06:25,213 --> 01:06:26,674
taking your own life
1376
01:06:26,709 --> 01:06:28,511
is a powerful enough reason
to think,
1377
01:06:28,546 --> 01:06:30,348
"Hmm, something
is not quite right.
1378
01:06:30,383 --> 01:06:31,745
I need to do
something about it."
1379
01:06:31,780 --> 01:06:33,747
So that's when I went
and sought help.
1380
01:06:33,782 --> 01:06:35,650
Things like
cognitive behavioral therapy
1381
01:06:35,685 --> 01:06:37,322
worked wonders for me.
1382
01:06:37,357 --> 01:06:41,491
I came across
the power of the mind.
1383
01:06:41,526 --> 01:06:43,394
And, so, going forward now
in my coaching,
1384
01:06:43,429 --> 01:06:47,794
that's how I help people,
because there is no quick fix,
1385
01:06:47,829 --> 01:06:52,502
and there is certainly
no one-fix solution for people.
1386
01:06:52,537 --> 01:06:55,307
♪
1387
01:06:55,342 --> 01:06:57,639
I posted a picture on Instagram.
1388
01:06:57,674 --> 01:07:01,412
I'd been using my account
to document my dieting,
1389
01:07:01,447 --> 01:07:04,316
and when I posted the picture
about bingeing,
1390
01:07:04,351 --> 01:07:06,120
one of my local friends said,
1391
01:07:06,155 --> 01:07:08,815
"Oh, I've been following
this woman
1392
01:07:08,850 --> 01:07:11,158
who talks about anti-diet.
1393
01:07:11,193 --> 01:07:12,588
Maybe you should
check her out."
1394
01:07:12,623 --> 01:07:14,194
And that was it.
1395
01:07:14,229 --> 01:07:16,196
And very quickly, I realized
1396
01:07:16,231 --> 01:07:20,662
that actually my radical
disability rights politics
1397
01:07:20,697 --> 01:07:22,631
are essentially the same thing.
1398
01:07:22,666 --> 01:07:28,175
They translate so easily
into anti-beauty standards
1399
01:07:28,210 --> 01:07:30,606
and anti-diet that I almost felt
1400
01:07:30,641 --> 01:07:33,180
that I can't... a bit embarrassed
1401
01:07:33,215 --> 01:07:34,742
that I'd never sort of
cottoned on
1402
01:07:34,777 --> 01:07:36,579
that it was essentially
the same thing
1403
01:07:36,614 --> 01:07:39,285
and, yet, I was so extreme
1404
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,122
in my radical
disability politics
1405
01:07:41,157 --> 01:07:43,817
but so extremely involved
in diet culture.
1406
01:07:43,852 --> 01:07:47,425
It was almost laughable.
1407
01:07:50,133 --> 01:07:52,166
When my relationship
with my body
1408
01:07:52,201 --> 01:07:54,102
was picking up momentum,
1409
01:07:54,137 --> 01:07:56,731
I started to see
what health meant.
1410
01:07:56,766 --> 01:07:58,568
And this diet culture thing,
I was like,
1411
01:07:58,603 --> 01:08:00,801
"Oh, the two
are actually separate,
1412
01:08:00,836 --> 01:08:02,385
but they've just been
married together
1413
01:08:02,409 --> 01:08:03,804
by people that don't get it.
1414
01:08:03,839 --> 01:08:06,246
Oh, so I really
have to be on this...
1415
01:08:06,281 --> 01:08:08,479
Explore this by myself?
1416
01:08:08,514 --> 01:08:10,745
Huh. Okay, okay, okay, okay.
1417
01:08:10,780 --> 01:08:13,583
So everyone's calling me 'fat'
and calling me 'ugly, '
1418
01:08:13,618 --> 01:08:15,882
but my body is still
faithful to me.
1419
01:08:15,917 --> 01:08:17,620
I've been raped,
it's been beaten,
1420
01:08:17,655 --> 01:08:19,292
I've been spat on,
I've been abused,
1421
01:08:19,327 --> 01:08:22,229
but my body hasn't failed me.
1422
01:08:22,264 --> 01:08:23,659
Ah."
1423
01:08:23,694 --> 01:08:25,331
Mm.
1424
01:08:25,366 --> 01:08:29,698
Really, it's... there's
never a problem inside.
1425
01:08:29,733 --> 01:08:30,765
As far as I'm aware,
1426
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,701
the problem is always external,
1427
01:08:32,736 --> 01:08:34,571
it's always society.
1428
01:08:34,606 --> 01:08:37,706
And that's the same
in terms of all intersection.
1429
01:08:37,741 --> 01:08:42,282
So racism and transphobia,
fatphobia, ableism,
1430
01:08:42,317 --> 01:08:44,185
the problem is always
the outside.
1431
01:08:44,220 --> 01:08:45,912
It's never the person.
1432
01:08:45,947 --> 01:08:47,518
♪
1433
01:08:47,553 --> 01:08:50,587
So, for me, to take a leap
into an industry
1434
01:08:50,622 --> 01:08:54,261
that was notoriously known
for not accepting fat bodies
1435
01:08:54,296 --> 01:08:55,768
and didn't want to be
associated with them
1436
01:08:55,792 --> 01:08:59,827
in any way or form...
1437
01:08:59,862 --> 01:09:01,796
it was, yeah, it was sort of
1438
01:09:01,831 --> 01:09:05,305
proving my parents wrong,
but I'm proving society wrong,
1439
01:09:05,340 --> 01:09:09,276
that, actually, I could work
within that industry.
1440
01:09:09,311 --> 01:09:10,871
♪
1441
01:09:10,906 --> 01:09:15,183
We need to put those efforts
into looking outwards
1442
01:09:15,218 --> 01:09:16,943
and altering the things
that we see
1443
01:09:16,978 --> 01:09:19,187
that are problematic in society
1444
01:09:19,222 --> 01:09:21,354
rather than trying to fix
something in ourselves
1445
01:09:21,389 --> 01:09:23,257
that isn't even broken.
1446
01:09:23,292 --> 01:09:26,953
You are worthy, you are worthy
of better than this.
1447
01:09:26,988 --> 01:09:34,988
♪
1448
01:09:36,866 --> 01:09:39,471
Oh, hello, London.
1449
01:09:39,506 --> 01:09:41,737
Anyone over there
with a pair of binoculars?
1450
01:09:41,772 --> 01:09:46,676
I'm fat, yes,
but I'm not inactive.
1451
01:09:46,711 --> 01:09:50,548
I love to run around
and be silly and joke and laugh,
1452
01:09:50,583 --> 01:09:53,221
and I love to dance!
1453
01:09:53,256 --> 01:09:56,455
Don't... say it to my face...
1454
01:09:56,490 --> 01:10:00,261
Why am I insecure because of
your, your, and your opinions?
1455
01:10:00,296 --> 01:10:01,328
I can't do that.
1456
01:10:01,363 --> 01:10:04,793
♪
1457
01:10:04,828 --> 01:10:07,466
I love soca music,
Caribbean music.
1458
01:10:07,501 --> 01:10:10,436
The bigger the bum, the better.
1459
01:10:10,471 --> 01:10:12,735
Like, I'm not bashing anybody
with small bums,
1460
01:10:12,770 --> 01:10:15,342
but if you, like,
you have a small bum,
1461
01:10:15,377 --> 01:10:18,411
it's a little bit difficult,
you know, to dance.
1462
01:10:18,446 --> 01:10:21,315
Everybody's accepted
in the Caribbean.
1463
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:23,251
Like body size, nobody's bashed.
1464
01:10:23,286 --> 01:10:25,616
You'd probably be bashed
maybe on your personality
1465
01:10:25,651 --> 01:10:28,685
before someone will talk
about your size.
1466
01:10:36,728 --> 01:10:39,399
I eventually decided
to face up to the fear
1467
01:10:39,434 --> 01:10:40,928
of eating a croissant.
1468
01:10:40,963 --> 01:10:42,930
So it was about
seven or eight years
1469
01:10:42,965 --> 01:10:44,800
since I'd eaten a croissant,
1470
01:10:44,835 --> 01:10:46,604
and it was something
I thought about a lot,
1471
01:10:46,639 --> 01:10:48,540
like I'd see people eat them
and I'd think,
1472
01:10:48,575 --> 01:10:50,454
"Oh, I really want one of them,
but, oh, I can't one.
1473
01:10:50,478 --> 01:10:51,972
They're something
I just don't eat."
1474
01:10:52,007 --> 01:10:55,448
And, then, eventually, I did,
and when I did eat it,
1475
01:10:55,483 --> 01:10:57,747
I have to admit
that it was tough.
1476
01:10:57,782 --> 01:10:59,045
It wasn't just, "Oh, I ate it,"
1477
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:00,717
and I thought, "That was easy."
1478
01:11:00,752 --> 01:11:02,521
It was actually still
quite challenging
1479
01:11:02,556 --> 01:11:05,392
because it was a fear food,
1480
01:11:05,427 --> 01:11:08,593
and it brought up feelings
of guilt and anxiety and shame
1481
01:11:08,628 --> 01:11:10,001
because I thought
I'd let myself down
1482
01:11:10,025 --> 01:11:13,697
by having something
I'd said was off-limits.
1483
01:11:13,732 --> 01:11:19,703
♪
1484
01:11:19,738 --> 01:11:21,903
It makes people anxious often
1485
01:11:21,938 --> 01:11:24,708
to think about the shame
and the guilt
1486
01:11:24,743 --> 01:11:26,644
that's underneath dieting.
1487
01:11:26,679 --> 01:11:28,580
And, so, when we think
about letting go
1488
01:11:28,615 --> 01:11:32,320
of our food roles, we're also,
on an unconscious level,
1489
01:11:32,355 --> 01:11:35,488
letting go
of our sense of control.
1490
01:11:35,523 --> 01:11:37,721
And, you know, diet culture
tells us, of course,
1491
01:11:37,756 --> 01:11:41,054
we can and we should be able
to control our bodies.
1492
01:11:41,089 --> 01:11:48,831
♪
1493
01:11:48,866 --> 01:11:51,702
Even when she went
to university,
1494
01:11:51,737 --> 01:11:53,836
she wasn't well, really,
1495
01:11:53,871 --> 01:11:57,004
but she just showed
enormous courage.
1496
01:11:57,039 --> 01:11:59,677
And we didn't want her to go,
1497
01:11:59,712 --> 01:12:03,450
but I could sort of see
that she was starting
1498
01:12:03,485 --> 01:12:07,421
to take the control back herself
1499
01:12:07,456 --> 01:12:08,917
and to deal with it.
1500
01:12:08,952 --> 01:12:13,086
And just learning to step back
and let her do that
1501
01:12:13,121 --> 01:12:15,660
was... was what we did.
1502
01:12:15,695 --> 01:12:17,893
I think it's 'cause...
1503
01:12:17,928 --> 01:12:22,667
I don't know when,
but at some point I realized,
1504
01:12:22,702 --> 01:12:25,769
I realized I wanted to live
and not just survive.
1505
01:12:25,804 --> 01:12:29,740
I'd been just surviving
for so long
1506
01:12:29,775 --> 01:12:32,512
but feeling so awful
1507
01:12:32,547 --> 01:12:34,019
that I actually wanted
to get to a place
1508
01:12:34,043 --> 01:12:35,746
where I was living
and enjoying things
1509
01:12:35,781 --> 01:12:38,452
rather than going
through the motions
1510
01:12:38,487 --> 01:12:41,422
day in and day out.
1511
01:12:41,457 --> 01:12:49,457
♪
1512
01:12:49,597 --> 01:12:53,995
When it comes to diets...
And what's the new one, keto?
1513
01:12:54,030 --> 01:12:56,129
Keto, I think that's the new one
1514
01:12:56,164 --> 01:12:57,900
and people are going crazy
over that.
1515
01:12:57,935 --> 01:12:59,649
I thought I was
gonna jump on it, Googled it,
1516
01:12:59,673 --> 01:13:02,135
I said, "No, that's way
too much effort to me."
1517
01:13:02,170 --> 01:13:04,148
Why can't we just have
a healthy, balanced lifestyle?
1518
01:13:04,172 --> 01:13:06,579
We can't have a healthy,
balanced lifestyle
1519
01:13:06,614 --> 01:13:08,812
because... well, we can,
but it's very difficult
1520
01:13:08,847 --> 01:13:10,649
and it's going to be
very difficult
1521
01:13:10,684 --> 01:13:12,453
because of money.
1522
01:13:12,488 --> 01:13:15,016
Money makes everything
a problem for somebody.
1523
01:13:15,051 --> 01:13:17,458
The rich eat well,
the poor eat shit.
1524
01:13:17,493 --> 01:13:20,593
And as someone who considers
myself as working class...
1525
01:13:20,628 --> 01:13:23,123
I've not yet really reached
celebrity status.
1526
01:13:23,158 --> 01:13:25,532
When I get there,
things might change,
1527
01:13:25,567 --> 01:13:28,436
but until then,
I am definitely living
1528
01:13:28,471 --> 01:13:32,539
below the breadline
and, um, it's hard.
1529
01:13:32,574 --> 01:13:35,971
I feel that I am this way
because of lots of factors,
1530
01:13:36,006 --> 01:13:37,841
but one of the main things
1531
01:13:37,876 --> 01:13:40,173
is that all we ever had
enough money to eat
1532
01:13:40,208 --> 01:13:43,517
was what we could afford
which is Iceland food,
1533
01:13:43,552 --> 01:13:45,486
cheap and cheerful, ASDA,
1534
01:13:45,521 --> 01:13:47,818
microwave meals
because everyone's parents,
1535
01:13:47,853 --> 01:13:50,216
family, guardians, whatever,
are working so hard
1536
01:13:50,251 --> 01:13:53,725
to put money on the table
that they can't cook us
1537
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:58,059
venison and, uh, shrimp
for dinner.
1538
01:13:58,094 --> 01:14:02,767
♪
1539
01:14:02,802 --> 01:14:04,571
From day one, when we go
1540
01:14:04,606 --> 01:14:08,476
into our nutrition
and public health degrees,
1541
01:14:08,511 --> 01:14:12,040
we are taught
that socioeconomic disparities
1542
01:14:12,075 --> 01:14:14,548
drive health inequality,
1543
01:14:14,583 --> 01:14:17,177
and it's like a given,
it's a fact,
1544
01:14:17,212 --> 01:14:20,246
and then it never gets
touched on ever again
1545
01:14:20,281 --> 01:14:22,853
and we barely talk about it.
1546
01:14:22,888 --> 01:14:30,888
♪
1547
01:14:49,618 --> 01:14:53,719
We have quite a strong body
of research now that shows
1548
01:14:53,754 --> 01:14:57,855
that the primary determinants
of all of these conditions
1549
01:14:57,890 --> 01:14:59,923
is socioeconomic status,
1550
01:14:59,958 --> 01:15:04,290
and it goes simply beyond
baseline income level,
1551
01:15:04,325 --> 01:15:07,634
but, actually, is more
pronounced in societies
1552
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:10,197
where the wealth gap
between the very rich
1553
01:15:10,232 --> 01:15:14,707
and poorest in society
is the largest.
1554
01:15:14,742 --> 01:15:17,237
And that's why
for health statistics,
1555
01:15:17,272 --> 01:15:19,206
the countries
with the leading issues
1556
01:15:19,241 --> 01:15:21,043
in chronic lifestyle disease
1557
01:15:21,078 --> 01:15:24,211
are the UK, the United States,
and Australia
1558
01:15:24,246 --> 01:15:28,116
because they typically have
the biggest wealth disparity.
1559
01:15:28,151 --> 01:15:29,623
♪
1560
01:15:29,658 --> 01:15:32,758
And so the big rhetoric
either from government
1561
01:15:32,793 --> 01:15:36,762
or from food industry
is that, you know,
1562
01:15:36,797 --> 01:15:40,062
everyone just needs
to eat better.
1563
01:15:40,097 --> 01:15:43,197
But then we look at
the urban environments
1564
01:15:43,232 --> 01:15:45,034
and food deserts, and we see
1565
01:15:45,069 --> 01:15:48,268
that, actually,
all of the fast food chains
1566
01:15:48,303 --> 01:15:50,105
and the quick convenience foods,
1567
01:15:50,140 --> 01:15:52,712
which are kind of lower
in minerals and nutrients
1568
01:15:52,747 --> 01:15:55,275
than kind of whole foods,
1569
01:15:55,310 --> 01:15:57,948
are disproportionately in areas
1570
01:15:57,983 --> 01:16:01,347
of low economic advantage.
1571
01:16:01,382 --> 01:16:03,283
When you add other barriers in,
1572
01:16:03,318 --> 01:16:07,320
like increasing consumption
of energy away from the home,
1573
01:16:07,355 --> 01:16:09,828
lack of food preparation skills,
1574
01:16:09,863 --> 01:16:14,602
time is a huge barrier
for low socioeconomic families
1575
01:16:14,637 --> 01:16:18,100
because, often, there could be
single-parent households,
1576
01:16:18,135 --> 01:16:21,609
two jobs, and we have
1577
01:16:21,644 --> 01:16:24,040
all of these social
and economic barriers
1578
01:16:24,075 --> 01:16:25,712
that we're not talking about,
1579
01:16:25,747 --> 01:16:28,308
and unless we start
talking about those issues,
1580
01:16:28,343 --> 01:16:30,178
we're not going to make
progress.
1581
01:16:37,891 --> 01:16:41,992
Be it jerk chicken
and rice and peas,
1582
01:16:42,027 --> 01:16:43,928
or an Iceland microwave tin
1583
01:16:43,963 --> 01:16:46,799
which was something Mom had
to "psh, psh, psh" together,
1584
01:16:46,834 --> 01:16:49,703
as you're eating that,
you're drooling
1585
01:16:49,738 --> 01:16:51,639
over McDonald's
and Burger King adverts
1586
01:16:51,674 --> 01:16:53,135
and KFC adverts
1587
01:16:53,170 --> 01:16:56,842
and, um, "buy this"
and "just on offer today,
1588
01:16:56,877 --> 01:16:59,746
Birds Eye Chicken Dippers."
1589
01:16:59,781 --> 01:17:03,376
"Get two for 12 pound
Iceland today."
1590
01:17:03,411 --> 01:17:05,818
You want us to be healthy.
1591
01:17:05,853 --> 01:17:09,954
Where's the whole foods
advertisements on TV at 7:00?
1592
01:17:09,989 --> 01:17:12,660
I've not seen any of those.
1593
01:17:12,695 --> 01:17:13,594
You want us to be healthy.
1594
01:17:13,630 --> 01:17:16,389
Why isn't everything
just organic then?
1595
01:17:16,424 --> 01:17:17,995
You... you know?
1596
01:17:18,030 --> 01:17:22,197
Not only is that
evidentially unsustainable,
1597
01:17:22,232 --> 01:17:25,332
I think it's morally
unsustainable now
1598
01:17:25,367 --> 01:17:28,236
to put personal responsibility
on people
1599
01:17:28,271 --> 01:17:30,678
without modifying
the environment in their favor
1600
01:17:30,713 --> 01:17:34,407
that allows them to take
any personal responsibility.
1601
01:17:34,442 --> 01:17:37,916
If we're really serious
about reversing
1602
01:17:37,951 --> 01:17:41,117
or reducing the burden
of chronic lifestyle disease,
1603
01:17:41,152 --> 01:17:43,955
we need to start viewing this
as a political issue,
1604
01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:45,099
and we need to start viewing it
1605
01:17:45,123 --> 01:17:47,761
as the socioeconomic issue
that it is,
1606
01:17:47,796 --> 01:17:51,864
and we need to start looking
1607
01:17:51,899 --> 01:17:54,163
at that very high level
for solutions
1608
01:17:54,198 --> 01:17:56,935
because it's really
the only place
1609
01:17:56,970 --> 01:18:01,104
where hard answers are going
to come to hard questions.
1610
01:18:01,139 --> 01:18:03,975
And the real question
within that is,
1611
01:18:04,010 --> 01:18:08,144
do we have political parties
that are brave enough
1612
01:18:08,179 --> 01:18:11,180
to take that step?
1613
01:18:11,215 --> 01:18:13,281
And that's a question
that I would not be
1614
01:18:13,316 --> 01:18:15,283
particularly confident on
1615
01:18:15,318 --> 01:18:18,990
in certainly the countries
that have embraced
1616
01:18:19,025 --> 01:18:22,290
the neoliberal economic model.
1617
01:18:22,325 --> 01:18:26,393
♪
1618
01:18:26,428 --> 01:18:30,100
What strikes me is the lack
of urgency about this,
1619
01:18:30,135 --> 01:18:32,201
that assimilation
and eradication.
1620
01:18:32,236 --> 01:18:33,840
This is what we're talking about
1621
01:18:33,875 --> 01:18:36,106
when we talk about...
When people are suggesting
1622
01:18:36,141 --> 01:18:38,009
weight correction
as the way forward.
1623
01:18:38,044 --> 01:18:40,407
Health at Every Size
is a concept
1624
01:18:40,442 --> 01:18:43,916
that was coined by Linda Bacon
and Lucy Aphramor,
1625
01:18:43,951 --> 01:18:45,412
and the best way to describe it
1626
01:18:45,447 --> 01:18:48,382
is that it's
a social justice movement
1627
01:18:48,417 --> 01:18:51,891
that's designed to creating
and delivering
1628
01:18:51,926 --> 01:18:55,829
inclusive and accessible care
for everybody.
1629
01:18:55,864 --> 01:18:59,459
So, I focus on body respect
and health gain,
1630
01:18:59,494 --> 01:19:01,868
where health gain
resides in justice.
1631
01:19:01,903 --> 01:19:04,805
If we want health,
we need a fair society,
1632
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,334
we need to talk about trauma,
1633
01:19:06,369 --> 01:19:08,435
we need to be
compassion-centered.
1634
01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:11,141
And so how that translates
to working
1635
01:19:11,176 --> 01:19:14,045
as a Health at Every Size
practitioner, for example,
1636
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:16,784
is I position my clients
as the experts
1637
01:19:16,819 --> 01:19:19,050
because they're the ones
that know what feels right
1638
01:19:19,085 --> 01:19:21,316
in their body,
they're the ones that know
1639
01:19:21,351 --> 01:19:25,188
what fits with their lives
in terms of healthcare.
1640
01:19:25,223 --> 01:19:27,927
But at the same time,
I'm also teaching them
1641
01:19:27,962 --> 01:19:30,996
that critical awareness
by bringing in research
1642
01:19:31,031 --> 01:19:32,998
and helping them
to really unpack
1643
01:19:33,033 --> 01:19:36,100
those internalized messages
from diet culture.
1644
01:19:36,135 --> 01:19:37,563
Vicious cycle.
1645
01:19:37,598 --> 01:19:40,566
Hundred percent vicious cycle.
1646
01:19:40,601 --> 01:19:43,437
I'm actually
really quite inspired
1647
01:19:43,472 --> 01:19:45,472
by the idea of intuitive eating.
1648
01:19:45,507 --> 01:19:49,949
I think it's something that
you have to be very careful
1649
01:19:49,984 --> 01:19:53,414
to kind of embark on
because it's very easy to say,
1650
01:19:53,449 --> 01:19:55,086
"Well, I'll eat intuitively,"
1651
01:19:55,121 --> 01:19:57,550
but if you're still ruled
by assorted eating thoughts,
1652
01:19:57,585 --> 01:20:00,322
you may just not eat enough
or you may completely cut back
1653
01:20:00,357 --> 01:20:02,269
because you'll think
your body is saying one thing
1654
01:20:02,293 --> 01:20:03,457
when, really, your thoughts
1655
01:20:03,492 --> 01:20:05,525
have control over you, actually.
1656
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:06,571
The thoughts
are saying something
1657
01:20:06,595 --> 01:20:09,364
and it's not your hunger
you're listening to.
1658
01:20:11,071 --> 01:20:14,039
So, intuitive eating
is a framework
1659
01:20:14,074 --> 01:20:17,944
that is designed to get you
to reconnect with your body,
1660
01:20:17,979 --> 01:20:19,946
and it was developed
by Evelyn Tribole
1661
01:20:19,981 --> 01:20:22,982
and Elyse Resch
in the mid-1990s.
1662
01:20:23,017 --> 01:20:25,182
And the reason why
it's so important right now
1663
01:20:25,217 --> 01:20:27,954
is because it's
a really radical concept
1664
01:20:27,989 --> 01:20:31,122
and a really radical framework
in diet culture,
1665
01:20:31,157 --> 01:20:33,927
where we're constantly
being bombarded with messages
1666
01:20:33,962 --> 01:20:36,193
about what to eat
and how to eat.
1667
01:20:36,228 --> 01:20:39,361
Intuitively eating teaches us
how to strip those back
1668
01:20:39,396 --> 01:20:42,870
and how to regain trust
in our bodies.
1669
01:20:48,339 --> 01:20:52,143
Jubilee Line, the next train
to Wembley Park
1670
01:20:52,178 --> 01:20:57,115
will depart from Platform 14
in one minute.
1671
01:20:57,150 --> 01:20:59,282
I'm just a secret...
I'm a secret eater
1672
01:20:59,317 --> 01:21:03,022
because I was so ashamed
to do it in public.
1673
01:21:03,057 --> 01:21:04,551
I reached a level of confidence
1674
01:21:04,586 --> 01:21:05,992
where I didn't really mind,
1675
01:21:06,027 --> 01:21:07,653
but it seems to have
disappeared again
1676
01:21:07,688 --> 01:21:09,358
and, now, even if I am
really hungry
1677
01:21:09,393 --> 01:21:11,624
and I do just want some chips
from McDonald's,
1678
01:21:11,659 --> 01:21:14,066
I just... I can't, I won't do it.
1679
01:21:14,101 --> 01:21:16,530
I don't want to do it,
I feel bad,
1680
01:21:16,565 --> 01:21:20,633
even though everyone
has chips from, um,
1681
01:21:20,668 --> 01:21:22,206
has chips from McDonald's.
1682
01:21:27,246 --> 01:21:28,674
People always ask,
1683
01:21:28,709 --> 01:21:32,018
"Well, if I improve
my relationship with food,"
1684
01:21:32,053 --> 01:21:33,448
and one of those things
to do that
1685
01:21:33,483 --> 01:21:36,088
is giving yourself
unconditional permission
1686
01:21:36,123 --> 01:21:37,056
to eat all foods,
1687
01:21:37,091 --> 01:21:39,355
where nothing
is officially off the table,
1688
01:21:39,390 --> 01:21:41,324
they go, "well,
I'm just gonna put weight on.
1689
01:21:41,359 --> 01:21:43,029
I'm just gonna keep
gaining weight.
1690
01:21:43,064 --> 01:21:45,427
I did that once, I tried
to give myself permission
1691
01:21:45,462 --> 01:21:47,528
and I just gained weight."
1692
01:21:47,563 --> 01:21:49,101
The difficulty is that
1693
01:21:49,136 --> 01:21:51,136
if you're giving yourself
permission,
1694
01:21:51,171 --> 01:21:54,139
but you still have an end goal
of weight loss,
1695
01:21:54,174 --> 01:21:57,604
then you don't really have
unconditional permission.
1696
01:21:57,639 --> 01:21:59,353
Everything that you do
is still conditional
1697
01:21:59,377 --> 01:22:00,981
on not gaining weight,
1698
01:22:01,016 --> 01:22:03,412
and it brings fear
back into the equation
1699
01:22:03,447 --> 01:22:05,480
because we're afraid
of gaining weight.
1700
01:22:05,515 --> 01:22:08,582
And when we're afraid,
we then restrict
1701
01:22:08,617 --> 01:22:11,453
because restriction
comes from fear.
1702
01:22:20,596 --> 01:22:23,663
We're diverse individuals,
we're complex creatures,
1703
01:22:23,698 --> 01:22:27,337
so we need a wide range
of things to help us cope.
1704
01:22:27,372 --> 01:22:30,637
However, some of the foods
that we use to cope
1705
01:22:30,672 --> 01:22:34,212
with our emotions
are vilified in diet culture.
1706
01:22:34,247 --> 01:22:35,983
I mean, when we're feeling sad
or upset,
1707
01:22:36,018 --> 01:22:39,085
we're not gonna go
for a plate of kale.
1708
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,581
We want to go
for a piece of cake,
1709
01:22:40,616 --> 01:22:42,451
or we want to go for some pasta,
1710
01:22:42,486 --> 01:22:45,388
or we want to go for something
that, generally speaking,
1711
01:22:45,423 --> 01:22:47,225
gets vilified by diet culture
1712
01:22:47,260 --> 01:22:49,722
because it has sugar
or carbohydrates.
1713
01:22:49,757 --> 01:22:51,625
And there's so much
fearmongering
1714
01:22:51,660 --> 01:22:53,759
around those kind of foods,
1715
01:22:53,794 --> 01:22:56,564
that when we then
go to reach for them,
1716
01:22:56,599 --> 01:23:01,008
when we're feeling emotional,
we experience shame and guilt.
1717
01:23:03,078 --> 01:23:04,044
♪
1718
01:23:04,079 --> 01:23:07,608
Also, food is deeply emotional
all by itself.
1719
01:23:07,643 --> 01:23:09,313
You know,
our first relationships
1720
01:23:09,348 --> 01:23:11,777
are mediated through food.
1721
01:23:11,812 --> 01:23:13,779
And so that means
that, quite often,
1722
01:23:13,814 --> 01:23:16,485
food can help us to process
1723
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,752
or go back
to certain comfortable,
1724
01:23:19,787 --> 01:23:22,029
more pleasant points in time.
1725
01:23:22,064 --> 01:23:23,789
So that's not a cause
for condemnation.
1726
01:23:23,824 --> 01:23:26,264
That should be quite
a strong cause for compassion
1727
01:23:26,299 --> 01:23:30,565
and either seeking
or offering support to someone.
1728
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:37,209
♪
1729
01:23:37,244 --> 01:23:39,640
I think also realizing
1730
01:23:39,675 --> 01:23:43,116
that the experts
might be able to help,
1731
01:23:43,151 --> 01:23:46,185
'cause I lost faith in them
along the way.
1732
01:23:46,220 --> 01:23:47,813
And I think Hannah's had support
1733
01:23:47,848 --> 01:23:51,289
from one particularly
good person in recent years
1734
01:23:51,324 --> 01:23:53,159
who was actually
a family therapist
1735
01:23:53,194 --> 01:23:56,393
who I also did some work with.
1736
01:23:56,428 --> 01:23:59,132
Do you remember, we used to do
all these albums?
1737
01:23:59,167 --> 01:24:03,202
I think she always saw me
as a person,
1738
01:24:03,237 --> 01:24:06,568
not as an illness, and I think
sometimes along the way
1739
01:24:06,603 --> 01:24:09,802
professionals would only see you
as an illness,
1740
01:24:09,837 --> 01:24:12,310
and especially as I got older
1741
01:24:12,345 --> 01:24:14,477
and I was no longer a teenager.
1742
01:24:14,512 --> 01:24:17,381
When I was... I was an adult
or I am an adult,
1743
01:24:17,416 --> 01:24:20,615
it was really hard when
you get treated like a child
1744
01:24:20,650 --> 01:24:23,387
because I could acknowledge
that I was unwell,
1745
01:24:23,422 --> 01:24:27,490
but actually I was still me.
1746
01:24:27,525 --> 01:24:28,788
Your hair.
1747
01:24:28,823 --> 01:24:30,691
Then, we went to Istanbul
afterwards.
1748
01:24:30,726 --> 01:24:33,628
I think that's what we did.
1749
01:24:33,663 --> 01:24:36,862
I wonder if had things
been addressed earlier on
1750
01:24:36,897 --> 01:24:40,338
in the right way,
then the outcome may have been
1751
01:24:40,373 --> 01:24:43,407
quite drastically different
and it wouldn't have taken
1752
01:24:43,442 --> 01:24:45,739
two years of my life
in an inpatient unit
1753
01:24:45,774 --> 01:24:50,249
and a lot, a lot
of challenges, yeah.
1754
01:24:50,284 --> 01:24:52,251
Yeah, I do question that,
and in fact,
1755
01:24:52,286 --> 01:24:53,527
you sort of beat yourself up
slightly and think,
1756
01:24:53,551 --> 01:24:55,155
"Why didn't I spot it earlier,"
1757
01:24:55,190 --> 01:24:56,200
and all this sort of stuff.
1758
01:24:56,224 --> 01:24:58,455
And, um,
1759
01:24:58,490 --> 01:24:59,863
you kind of have to learn
to live with that
1760
01:24:59,887 --> 01:25:02,129
because you did what you did.
1761
01:25:02,164 --> 01:25:03,164
Okay, great.
1762
01:25:06,630 --> 01:25:09,664
So, tonight,
I'm gonna cook that cake.
1763
01:25:09,699 --> 01:25:10,775
No, actually, I think
I'm gonna do the cookies,
1764
01:25:10,799 --> 01:25:13,305
I'm gonna do the chocolate chip.
1765
01:25:13,340 --> 01:25:21,340
♪
1766
01:25:24,285 --> 01:25:30,289
♪
1767
01:25:30,324 --> 01:25:33,886
So, yesterday, I was invited
down to Sunday Morning Live
1768
01:25:33,921 --> 01:25:36,922
with the BBC to talk about
body positive yoga.
1769
01:25:36,957 --> 01:25:39,628
I'm with a group of women
who refuse to let the opinions
1770
01:25:39,663 --> 01:25:42,334
of others shame them into
worrying about their health.
1771
01:25:42,369 --> 01:25:44,666
And that was wonderful,
we had the yoga class,
1772
01:25:44,701 --> 01:25:46,569
a few stretches,
sun salutations,
1773
01:25:46,604 --> 01:25:48,384
all that good stuff,
breathe, breathe, breathe.
1774
01:25:48,408 --> 01:25:51,244
Now, most people might say,
"What's more important,
1775
01:25:51,279 --> 01:25:53,312
body confidence
or good health?"
1776
01:25:53,347 --> 01:25:54,544
What would you say to that?
1777
01:25:54,579 --> 01:25:56,645
I think the two
have to coincide.
1778
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,318
You have to be... in order
to be confident,
1779
01:25:59,353 --> 01:26:00,517
you need to be healthy.
1780
01:26:00,552 --> 01:26:02,354
In order to be healthy,
you have to have
1781
01:26:02,389 --> 01:26:04,752
some level of confidence
to go and pursue that.
1782
01:26:04,787 --> 01:26:09,757
So, then, they interviewed
a white guy
1783
01:26:09,792 --> 01:26:13,233
about the age of 40,
maybe even hitting 50.
1784
01:26:13,268 --> 01:26:15,928
Now, one man who knows more
about losing weight
1785
01:26:15,963 --> 01:26:17,303
is Chris Zaremba.
1786
01:26:17,338 --> 01:26:18,931
Now, Chris, lovely to meet you.
1787
01:26:18,966 --> 01:26:22,242
At one point, you weighed
18 stone, is that right?
1788
01:26:22,277 --> 01:26:24,640
That's right, when I was 50,
I was 18 stone.
1789
01:26:24,675 --> 01:26:26,455
Right, and we've got
some before and after photos
1790
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:27,578
that we can have a look at.
1791
01:26:27,614 --> 01:26:29,942
It's pretty amazing
how much weight you've lost.
1792
01:26:29,977 --> 01:26:31,746
He started to speak
on his journey
1793
01:26:31,781 --> 01:26:35,321
of losing weight himself,
um, once being 18 stone,
1794
01:26:35,356 --> 01:26:38,225
which they said like it was,
like,
1795
01:26:38,260 --> 01:26:39,886
"Oh, you used to be a murderer.
1796
01:26:39,921 --> 01:26:41,492
Oh, you used to be 18 stone."
1797
01:26:41,527 --> 01:26:43,560
It was the exact same tone.
1798
01:26:43,595 --> 01:26:46,893
And I'm like, "Bitch,
last time I checked the scale,
1799
01:26:46,928 --> 01:26:51,568
I think I was hitting 20,
so what you trying to say?"
1800
01:26:51,603 --> 01:26:54,736
Being 18 stone,
I was technically obese.
1801
01:26:54,771 --> 01:26:56,276
I had very high blood pressure,
1802
01:26:56,311 --> 01:26:58,377
I had high levels
of lousy cholesterol,
1803
01:26:58,412 --> 01:27:01,875
the LDL cholesterol,
and I was borderline diabetic.
1804
01:27:01,910 --> 01:27:03,745
- Oh, goodness.
- And the GP told me
1805
01:27:03,780 --> 01:27:04,922
that if I didn't change my ways
1806
01:27:04,946 --> 01:27:06,385
and got a little more
into fitness
1807
01:27:06,420 --> 01:27:07,815
and a little away from fatness,
1808
01:27:07,850 --> 01:27:10,455
then it's possible I might
not see my 60th birthday.
1809
01:27:10,490 --> 01:27:12,358
Then he went on to speak
about weight loss
1810
01:27:12,393 --> 01:27:13,821
which he then corrected
and said,
1811
01:27:13,856 --> 01:27:15,493
"Well, actually, fat loss.
1812
01:27:15,528 --> 01:27:17,297
It was losing the fat
that I had to do."
1813
01:27:17,332 --> 01:27:19,629
And, again,
I'm there stretching,
1814
01:27:19,664 --> 01:27:22,764
downward facing dog
or whatever, thinking,
1815
01:27:22,799 --> 01:27:24,964
"If I could just get up
and punch this fool
1816
01:27:24,999 --> 01:27:26,570
in the face, I would."
1817
01:27:26,605 --> 01:27:27,912
But of course, again,
it's the BBC
1818
01:27:27,936 --> 01:27:29,738
and I don't want
to embarrass myself,
1819
01:27:29,773 --> 01:27:31,036
so I had to hold it down.
1820
01:27:31,071 --> 01:27:33,005
But then when I spoke
to the women afterwards,
1821
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,909
it turns out that we all felt
the exact same way,
1822
01:27:35,944 --> 01:27:37,878
we all felt just as disappointed
1823
01:27:37,913 --> 01:27:42,322
in that moment as we all did,
but what can we do?
1824
01:27:42,357 --> 01:27:43,884
We're filming at 8:00 a.m.
1825
01:27:43,919 --> 01:27:46,491
for something to be broadcast
at 11:00.
1826
01:27:46,526 --> 01:27:48,460
What exactly are we gonna do?
1827
01:27:48,495 --> 01:27:51,364
So it's kind of like,
how can we go against this?
1828
01:27:51,399 --> 01:27:54,400
And then I sort of realized,
1829
01:27:54,435 --> 01:27:57,403
"I don't know if we can."
1830
01:27:57,438 --> 01:27:58,800
Here we go.
1831
01:28:01,442 --> 01:28:08,480
♪
1832
01:28:08,515 --> 01:28:10,317
This is The Real Catwalk,
1833
01:28:10,352 --> 01:28:13,749
and you're here to witness
true journeys of self-love,
1834
01:28:13,784 --> 01:28:16,983
the love for others,
acceptance, compassion
1835
01:28:17,018 --> 01:28:18,886
of whoever we are
1836
01:28:18,921 --> 01:28:22,626
in all of our bodies, shapes,
colors, sizes, abilities,
1837
01:28:22,661 --> 01:28:24,463
lived differences,
mental health,
1838
01:28:24,498 --> 01:28:25,761
we're celebrating all of it.
1839
01:28:25,796 --> 01:28:27,092
So, support them.
1840
01:28:27,127 --> 01:28:29,600
Give your applause,
scream, do whatever.
1841
01:28:29,635 --> 01:28:30,799
They'll do a little dance.
1842
01:28:30,834 --> 01:28:32,801
Our positions are here.
1843
01:28:32,836 --> 01:28:34,440
Enjoy the show.
1844
01:28:36,477 --> 01:28:44,477
♪
1845
01:28:47,521 --> 01:28:48,916
Ready?
1846
01:28:48,951 --> 01:28:50,555
Go.
1847
01:28:52,988 --> 01:29:00,988
♪
1848
01:29:23,788 --> 01:29:26,987
We're here for The Real Catwalk
in Trafalgar Square.
1849
01:29:27,022 --> 01:29:29,528
It's all about body positivity.
1850
01:29:29,563 --> 01:29:31,596
It doesn't matter who you are,
what shape you are,
1851
01:29:31,631 --> 01:29:33,796
what size you are,
what disability
1852
01:29:33,831 --> 01:29:37,129
or ability you have,
you are beautiful,
1853
01:29:37,164 --> 01:29:40,803
and I just think
it needs to be out there more.
1854
01:29:43,445 --> 01:29:44,972
♪
1855
01:29:45,007 --> 01:29:47,139
There's just...
1856
01:29:47,174 --> 01:29:49,812
Do you know how many bodies
look like mine?
1857
01:29:49,847 --> 01:29:51,517
I'm really...
1858
01:29:51,552 --> 01:29:54,080
You know, I mean, I am unique,
but not really,
1859
01:29:54,115 --> 01:29:56,819
because there's many women
who are apple-shaped,
1860
01:29:56,854 --> 01:29:58,656
pear-shaped, hourglass-shaped,
1861
01:29:58,691 --> 01:30:02,693
but there's just rolls
and jiggly bits everywhere.
1862
01:30:05,698 --> 01:30:08,061
The Real Catwalk is a flash mob
1863
01:30:08,096 --> 01:30:11,966
guerilla-style fashion show
in the middle of the public
1864
01:30:12,001 --> 01:30:13,836
and where people come
to celebrate themselves
1865
01:30:13,871 --> 01:30:16,938
and each other
in our differences.
1866
01:30:16,973 --> 01:30:18,742
♪
1867
01:30:18,777 --> 01:30:20,106
So it's amazing just to see
1868
01:30:20,141 --> 01:30:23,978
so many different varieties
of body types,
1869
01:30:24,013 --> 01:30:27,047
whether you've got an illness,
a disability,
1870
01:30:27,082 --> 01:30:30,017
whether you're
apparently "not perfect"
1871
01:30:30,052 --> 01:30:31,788
like the media shows.
1872
01:30:31,823 --> 01:30:34,219
It's just amazing to see
everybody happy with themselves
1873
01:30:34,254 --> 01:30:36,991
and supporting each other
as well.
1874
01:30:37,026 --> 01:30:40,192
When I heard there was
a bikini underwear shoot
1875
01:30:40,227 --> 01:30:43,228
in Trafalgar Square,
what better way is there
1876
01:30:43,263 --> 01:30:45,472
to get my point across
1877
01:30:45,507 --> 01:30:47,540
that all these beautiful people,
1878
01:30:47,575 --> 01:30:50,972
every body is different,
and yet they're all gorgeous.
1879
01:30:51,007 --> 01:30:53,106
It doesn't matter your color,
your shape,
1880
01:30:53,141 --> 01:30:55,009
the shape of your body,
your size.
1881
01:30:55,044 --> 01:30:56,978
It doesn't matter
if you have birthmarks,
1882
01:30:57,013 --> 01:30:58,617
if you have scars or not.
1883
01:30:58,652 --> 01:31:01,983
It doesn't matter,
you know, who you are.
1884
01:31:02,018 --> 01:31:05,690
♪
1885
01:31:05,725 --> 01:31:07,263
With me being in a wheelchair
just to prove...
1886
01:31:07,287 --> 01:31:09,694
To show people
that it doesn't matter
1887
01:31:09,729 --> 01:31:11,630
how you look or what difference
1888
01:31:11,665 --> 01:31:12,697
you think you are.
1889
01:31:12,732 --> 01:31:15,260
We're all people.
1890
01:31:15,295 --> 01:31:22,608
♪
1891
01:31:22,643 --> 01:31:25,611
To get everyone out,
everyone set out
1892
01:31:25,646 --> 01:31:28,009
to show off their stuff,
strut their stuff,
1893
01:31:28,044 --> 01:31:30,715
get out there, be loud, be bold.
1894
01:31:30,750 --> 01:31:35,115
♪
1895
01:31:35,150 --> 01:31:37,183
Take your time.
1896
01:31:37,218 --> 01:31:40,560
♪
1897
01:31:40,595 --> 01:31:44,762
Everyone making judgments,
so the best thing you can do
1898
01:31:44,797 --> 01:31:46,665
is deal with it, get over it,
1899
01:31:46,700 --> 01:31:48,260
and break that boundary anyway.
1900
01:31:48,295 --> 01:31:51,065
These days, I wear crop tops
and I don't feel no way.
1901
01:31:51,100 --> 01:31:52,308
When people look at me
on the train,
1902
01:31:52,332 --> 01:31:53,672
I don't get offended.
1903
01:31:53,707 --> 01:31:55,201
To me, it's like, "Look more."
1904
01:31:59,845 --> 01:32:02,076
I'd rather just... I'd just do
a catwalk for everyone,
1905
01:32:02,111 --> 01:32:03,781
"Look at me, look at me."
1906
01:32:03,816 --> 01:32:05,750
I walk with my head held high.
1907
01:32:05,785 --> 01:32:08,247
And if my thighs, my arms,
my back fat is hanging out,
1908
01:32:08,282 --> 01:32:10,051
I don't give a fuck.
1909
01:32:10,086 --> 01:32:13,758
Well, I do, so I try to...
I might just tuck it back in.
1910
01:32:13,793 --> 01:32:16,189
But apart from that,
I couldn't care less
1911
01:32:16,224 --> 01:32:20,699
because you need to see me
and you need to see more of me
1912
01:32:20,734 --> 01:32:21,909
and, preferably, you need to see
1913
01:32:21,933 --> 01:32:23,328
as much of me as possible
1914
01:32:23,363 --> 01:32:25,902
so that you recognize
and acknowledge
1915
01:32:25,937 --> 01:32:27,211
every other woman on this planet
1916
01:32:27,235 --> 01:32:29,037
that looks like me.
1917
01:32:31,679 --> 01:32:38,618
♪
1918
01:32:38,653 --> 01:32:40,983
The anti-diet movement
is getting a lot of traction,
1919
01:32:41,018 --> 01:32:44,723
it's growing, especially
in London and the UK.
1920
01:32:44,758 --> 01:32:49,123
♪
1921
01:33:05,977 --> 01:33:10,078
The Anti Diet Riot Club
is a community and platform
1922
01:33:10,113 --> 01:33:11,190
that tries to bring
people together
1923
01:33:11,214 --> 01:33:15,017
who have experienced
diet cycling, bad body image.
1924
01:33:15,052 --> 01:33:16,381
Maybe they have been in recovery
1925
01:33:16,416 --> 01:33:17,954
for eating disorders
1926
01:33:17,989 --> 01:33:19,791
or they experienced fat shaming.
1927
01:33:19,826 --> 01:33:21,826
And we create a space
for them to come together
1928
01:33:21,861 --> 01:33:24,125
and we learn from each other,
educate each other,
1929
01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:25,640
and inspire each other
to fight back
1930
01:33:25,667 --> 01:33:27,865
against diet culture.
1931
01:33:27,900 --> 01:33:30,263
Five, six, seven, go.
1932
01:33:30,298 --> 01:33:33,266
One, two, three, four...
1933
01:33:33,301 --> 01:33:37,743
♪
1934
01:33:37,778 --> 01:33:39,712
Over the course of a year,
1935
01:33:39,747 --> 01:33:42,209
what you've eaten
over two weeks of Christmas
1936
01:33:42,244 --> 01:33:44,046
really doesn't matter.
1937
01:33:44,081 --> 01:33:46,686
How many of you heard maybe
body positive community today?
1938
01:33:46,721 --> 01:33:48,050
Raise your hand.
1939
01:33:48,085 --> 01:33:49,865
Right, you've heard that
over and over again,
1940
01:33:49,889 --> 01:33:51,350
but how do we create community
1941
01:33:51,385 --> 01:33:53,825
if we don't ever talk
to each other?
1942
01:33:53,860 --> 01:33:56,355
It's not for other people
to make opinions
1943
01:33:56,390 --> 01:33:57,895
on your body.
1944
01:33:57,930 --> 01:33:59,864
You know, if you want
to touch yourself,
1945
01:33:59,899 --> 01:34:00,899
touch yourself.
1946
01:34:00,933 --> 01:34:03,065
Go do it, explore yourself.
1947
01:34:03,100 --> 01:34:05,298
Don't wait for a man to come up
1948
01:34:05,333 --> 01:34:07,674
and give you an orgasm.
1949
01:34:07,709 --> 01:34:09,841
Give yourself an orgasm first.
1950
01:34:09,876 --> 01:34:12,778
And years and years and years
of waiting
1951
01:34:12,813 --> 01:34:15,110
to be the right size,
waiting to be thin,
1952
01:34:15,145 --> 01:34:16,716
and then my life could begin,
1953
01:34:16,751 --> 01:34:18,355
then I could do
all these fabulous things,
1954
01:34:18,379 --> 01:34:21,754
then I could do all the things
I've ever dreamt of.
1955
01:34:21,789 --> 01:34:23,426
And I remember getting
into my thirties,
1956
01:34:23,450 --> 01:34:26,253
and I was like,
"God, is this it?
1957
01:34:26,288 --> 01:34:28,156
Have I got to keep waiting?
1958
01:34:28,191 --> 01:34:30,191
Because it's boring!"
1959
01:34:30,226 --> 01:34:33,359
So if you heard the phrase,
which was the entire room,
1960
01:34:33,394 --> 01:34:36,395
"act like a lady,"
what did that mean
1961
01:34:36,430 --> 01:34:41,202
when someone said that
or maybe you said it?
1962
01:34:41,237 --> 01:34:42,720
What did it mean
when someone said it?
1963
01:34:42,744 --> 01:34:43,974
Yes.
1964
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,439
- Be quiet.
- Be quiet, good.
1965
01:34:47,474 --> 01:34:49,111
What else? Yeah, shout out.
1966
01:34:49,146 --> 01:34:51,476
- Inhibit yourself.
- Inhibit yourself, good.
1967
01:34:51,511 --> 01:34:53,181
- Sit nicely.
- Sit nicely.
1968
01:34:53,216 --> 01:34:55,018
Can you show me
what "sit nicely" looks like?
1969
01:34:57,022 --> 01:34:58,088
Yes.
1970
01:34:58,123 --> 01:35:01,321
And how would you describe
the body size of someone
1971
01:35:01,356 --> 01:35:02,487
that is a lady?
1972
01:35:02,522 --> 01:35:04,159
Small!
1973
01:35:04,194 --> 01:35:05,930
Skinny, small, thin.
1974
01:35:05,965 --> 01:35:08,801
- Slight.
- Slight. Is that British?
1975
01:35:11,069 --> 01:35:12,134
Slight.
1976
01:35:12,169 --> 01:35:14,741
So where does it come from?
1977
01:35:14,776 --> 01:35:16,105
Patriarchy. Where else?
1978
01:35:16,140 --> 01:35:18,140
- Colonialism.
- Okay, I'm coming back to that.
1979
01:35:18,175 --> 01:35:20,241
Yeah, white supremacy.
1980
01:35:20,276 --> 01:35:21,814
Y'all are too smart. What?
1981
01:35:21,849 --> 01:35:23,816
Toxic masculinity.
1982
01:35:23,851 --> 01:35:27,182
Toxic masculinity, good, yeah,
what else?
1983
01:35:27,217 --> 01:35:29,316
White supremacy,
capitalism, yeah.
1984
01:35:29,351 --> 01:35:31,230
People telling us things
that we all need to hear
1985
01:35:31,254 --> 01:35:32,265
and start talking about...
1986
01:35:32,289 --> 01:35:34,222
I feel like it's being
stretched right now,
1987
01:35:34,257 --> 01:35:38,325
because anybody is using
the term "body positivity"
1988
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:41,933
to describe how they look
nowadays,
1989
01:35:41,968 --> 01:35:43,396
and it's not fair for the women
1990
01:35:43,431 --> 01:35:45,805
who are still being marginalized
1991
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,500
because we're still fighting
to be seen
1992
01:35:48,535 --> 01:35:49,908
in mainstream media.
1993
01:35:52,341 --> 01:36:00,341
♪
1994
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:07,156
Body positivity
is a political movement
1995
01:36:07,191 --> 01:36:10,423
that tries to celebrate people
with marginalized bodies
1996
01:36:10,458 --> 01:36:12,799
and gives them the space
to express themselves
1997
01:36:12,834 --> 01:36:15,494
and to feel beautiful
and to have their voice heard.
1998
01:36:15,529 --> 01:36:20,169
So, for fat and people
of color and disabled folks,
1999
01:36:20,204 --> 01:36:23,403
that's a really important
origin of body positivity,
2000
01:36:23,438 --> 01:36:25,350
and it's kind of become
a little bit watered down
2001
01:36:25,374 --> 01:36:27,209
in the way that brands
talk about themselves
2002
01:36:27,244 --> 01:36:28,914
as being body positive,
when they still
2003
01:36:28,949 --> 01:36:30,949
only really celebrate
or represent
2004
01:36:30,984 --> 01:36:33,985
quite restrictive type of body.
2005
01:36:45,493 --> 01:36:46,525
One, two, three.
2006
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:49,297
Yeah!
2007
01:36:49,332 --> 01:36:51,970
In many ways, diet culture
is rebranding itself
2008
01:36:52,005 --> 01:36:54,599
and it's trying to appear
like it is for women,
2009
01:36:54,634 --> 01:36:56,271
such as Weight Watchers becoming
2010
01:36:56,306 --> 01:36:57,844
a new wellness initiative
2011
01:36:57,879 --> 01:37:01,243
or Special K
trying to bolster women
2012
01:37:01,278 --> 01:37:03,146
to energize them with food,
2013
01:37:03,181 --> 01:37:05,951
and it's that sneaky side of it,
2014
01:37:05,986 --> 01:37:08,217
where people think
that they are rebelling
2015
01:37:08,252 --> 01:37:10,087
against diet culture
all the while
2016
01:37:10,122 --> 01:37:13,860
reinforcing that their value
is based on the way they look.
2017
01:37:13,895 --> 01:37:16,456
Businesses can do a lot
to reduce
2018
01:37:16,491 --> 01:37:18,524
some of the toxicity
that they're putting out
2019
01:37:18,559 --> 01:37:20,999
because, obviously,
they have huge influence
2020
01:37:21,034 --> 01:37:23,837
in how people view themselves.
2021
01:37:27,139 --> 01:37:28,435
I miss you guys so much!
2022
01:37:28,470 --> 01:37:31,009
Um, if you want to make
a change in your life,
2023
01:37:31,044 --> 01:37:35,409
you have to be determined
to make that change.
2024
01:37:35,444 --> 01:37:38,082
You can't wait for, like,
New Year's to come around
2025
01:37:38,117 --> 01:37:39,250
because it doesn't work.
2026
01:37:39,285 --> 01:37:42,449
If you want to make a change,
you just got to make it.
2027
01:37:42,484 --> 01:37:45,287
Like a cake!
2028
01:37:45,322 --> 01:37:48,092
Like a cake, like a bloody cake!
2029
01:37:48,127 --> 01:37:49,236
What are you gonna do about it,
2030
01:37:49,260 --> 01:37:50,930
You know what I mean?
2031
01:37:52,461 --> 01:37:55,066
To be body positive
is to be inclusive
2032
01:37:55,101 --> 01:37:57,431
of every... every single body
2033
01:37:57,466 --> 01:38:00,236
because we all struggle
with insecurities. Why?
2034
01:38:00,271 --> 01:38:02,073
Because we're all governed
and controlled
2035
01:38:02,108 --> 01:38:04,570
and taught what to like
by the media,
2036
01:38:04,605 --> 01:38:06,242
which is not our friend.
2037
01:38:06,277 --> 01:38:08,244
Through social media,
we are changing things
2038
01:38:08,279 --> 01:38:11,313
and making it
so much more powerful.
2039
01:38:11,348 --> 01:38:12,413
♪
2040
01:38:12,448 --> 01:38:15,086
Another here!
2041
01:38:15,121 --> 01:38:16,560
I think the whole
non-diet movement
2042
01:38:16,584 --> 01:38:18,188
is really, really growing.
2043
01:38:18,223 --> 01:38:20,025
I think it's going to grow
in popularity
2044
01:38:20,060 --> 01:38:21,653
over the next couple of years.
2045
01:38:21,688 --> 01:38:24,931
I do think there will be
a backlash to that
2046
01:38:24,966 --> 01:38:26,229
by the diet industry
2047
01:38:26,264 --> 01:38:28,099
because it's such
a huge industry
2048
01:38:28,134 --> 01:38:32,565
and because people are still
very attached to this idea
2049
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,337
that being thin is better,
2050
01:38:35,372 --> 01:38:37,108
and there's gonna be a backlash
2051
01:38:37,143 --> 01:38:38,615
in the sense that people
will be so reluctant
2052
01:38:38,639 --> 01:38:41,541
to let that go that
they will double down on that.
2053
01:38:51,322 --> 01:38:53,553
Personally, dream life
2054
01:38:53,588 --> 01:38:57,095
is that bodies
are completely irrelevant,
2055
01:38:57,130 --> 01:38:59,999
that we can just acknowledge
that we all have this thing
2056
01:39:00,034 --> 01:39:05,466
that we're somehow blind to it,
that we just...
2057
01:39:05,501 --> 01:39:07,699
I mean, who we are as people
is all that's relevant.
2058
01:39:07,734 --> 01:39:09,536
That's how it feels to me
2059
01:39:09,571 --> 01:39:12,506
is that who I am as a person
and my actions
2060
01:39:12,541 --> 01:39:14,607
and my authenticity,
2061
01:39:14,642 --> 01:39:17,049
that's what's valuable about me.
2062
01:39:17,084 --> 01:39:20,382
My body is entirely irrelevant.
2063
01:39:30,196 --> 01:39:32,427
Hi!
2064
01:39:32,462 --> 01:39:36,134
- Oh, it's so good to meet you.
- So good to meet you too.
2065
01:39:36,169 --> 01:39:38,268
- Are you excited today?
- I'm so excited.
2066
01:39:38,303 --> 01:39:40,072
I can't wait to get shooting.
2067
01:39:40,107 --> 01:39:43,537
Oh, I'm feeling exposed.
2068
01:39:43,572 --> 01:39:45,242
Nice to meet you
completely naked.
2069
01:39:45,277 --> 01:39:47,475
Yes, you too, great, great body.
2070
01:39:47,510 --> 01:39:49,279
Thanks, babe, and to you.
2071
01:39:49,314 --> 01:39:51,479
Girl, thank you.
2072
01:39:51,514 --> 01:39:53,184
I've been working out, you know,
2073
01:39:53,219 --> 01:39:56,682
eating a couple less muffins.
2074
01:39:56,717 --> 01:39:58,684
It's really important
to think about things
2075
01:39:58,719 --> 01:40:01,654
like race, class, social status
2076
01:40:01,689 --> 01:40:03,128
when we're thinking about bodies
2077
01:40:03,163 --> 01:40:04,096
and understanding bodies
2078
01:40:04,131 --> 01:40:06,428
because we can't get away
from the fact
2079
01:40:06,463 --> 01:40:08,067
that bodies are political,
2080
01:40:08,102 --> 01:40:11,433
how we view bodies in society
are political,
2081
01:40:11,468 --> 01:40:13,699
are socially informed.
2082
01:40:16,209 --> 01:40:21,080
I'm already a bottle deep,
just to be clear.
2083
01:40:21,115 --> 01:40:23,577
I'm only having so much fun
exploring my body
2084
01:40:23,612 --> 01:40:25,810
because I'm doing it
on my own terms.
2085
01:40:25,845 --> 01:40:27,713
I can't listen to my mom
anymore.
2086
01:40:27,748 --> 01:40:29,363
I don't speak to her,
but I can't listen
2087
01:40:29,387 --> 01:40:32,157
to that voice
that is the voice of my mother.
2088
01:40:32,192 --> 01:40:34,291
I can't listen to friends
and other people
2089
01:40:34,326 --> 01:40:36,590
because they have had
different experiences.
2090
01:40:36,625 --> 01:40:40,792
The only person
who I can listen to is me.
2091
01:40:48,835 --> 01:40:54,080
♪
2092
01:40:54,115 --> 01:40:55,708
I have... I'll have weeks
2093
01:40:55,743 --> 01:40:59,415
where I just eat takeout
2094
01:40:59,450 --> 01:41:02,352
and I'm just... I've just got
a hectic week
2095
01:41:02,387 --> 01:41:04,849
and I've just got to grab
something quick.
2096
01:41:04,884 --> 01:41:08,622
But, like, you know, like
we're all "burning calories,"
2097
01:41:08,657 --> 01:41:13,627
like food is fuel,
and if you're moving,
2098
01:41:13,662 --> 01:41:15,563
whatever you're doing,
2099
01:41:15,598 --> 01:41:18,467
you need that fuel
to keep you going.
2100
01:41:18,502 --> 01:41:20,832
Just eat, like...
2101
01:41:20,867 --> 01:41:23,538
♪
2102
01:41:23,573 --> 01:41:25,573
If I feel good, I eat.
2103
01:41:25,608 --> 01:41:28,576
If I don't feel good, I eat.
2104
01:41:28,611 --> 01:41:31,546
Like, it varies, sometimes
I have a very balanced diet,
2105
01:41:31,581 --> 01:41:34,252
sometimes I don't
like everybody else.
2106
01:41:34,287 --> 01:41:39,224
So it all depends on my mood,
how I'm feeling,
2107
01:41:39,259 --> 01:41:40,753
if I'm going hard in the gym,
2108
01:41:40,788 --> 01:41:42,887
if I'm not going hard
in the gym.
2109
01:41:42,922 --> 01:41:46,792
I think in terms
of like emotions I will eat,
2110
01:41:46,827 --> 01:41:50,301
but I do always try
to make a conscious effort
2111
01:41:50,336 --> 01:41:53,898
to mind what I eat,
but I do like a cake.
2112
01:41:53,933 --> 01:41:54,866
I do like cake.
2113
01:41:54,901 --> 01:41:56,505
It's my favorite thing.
2114
01:41:59,411 --> 01:42:02,412
We can find our baseline
or a set point weight
2115
01:42:02,447 --> 01:42:03,908
which, by the way, fluctuates.
2116
01:42:03,943 --> 01:42:07,186
It's not actually a number,
it's a range.
2117
01:42:07,221 --> 01:42:08,847
And we can find that
by re-engaging
2118
01:42:08,882 --> 01:42:12,323
with our body signals,
and there's no way of knowing
2119
01:42:12,358 --> 01:42:15,755
what your set point weight
is until you're there.
2120
01:42:19,365 --> 01:42:21,365
Oi! Oi!
2121
01:42:23,798 --> 01:42:27,272
♪
2122
01:42:27,307 --> 01:42:29,472
One thing I love to measure
as success in my clients
2123
01:42:29,507 --> 01:42:32,178
is how do they feel
mentally and physically?
2124
01:42:32,213 --> 01:42:33,542
What are
their energy levels like
2125
01:42:33,577 --> 01:42:34,774
on a day-to-day basis?
2126
01:42:34,809 --> 01:42:36,611
How well are they sleeping?
2127
01:42:36,646 --> 01:42:39,251
How's their relationship
to their family?
2128
01:42:39,286 --> 01:42:41,616
How's their relationship
with food?
2129
01:42:41,651 --> 01:42:44,817
Those, to me, seem far more
powerful indicators
2130
01:42:44,852 --> 01:42:48,227
of what health is
than ever just being,
2131
01:42:48,262 --> 01:42:50,757
"Oh, look how lean I am,"
or, "Look how, you know,
2132
01:42:50,792 --> 01:42:51,758
you can see my six-pack,
2133
01:42:51,793 --> 01:42:53,364
or, "Look how big my arms are."
2134
01:42:53,399 --> 01:42:55,366
Those things are all
very superficial.
2135
01:42:55,401 --> 01:42:57,500
- In the morning.
- Are you?
2136
01:42:57,535 --> 01:42:58,435
Woo-hoo-hoo!
2137
01:42:58,470 --> 01:43:03,671
♪
2138
01:43:03,706 --> 01:43:06,905
So I would say now my diet
is incredibly varied.
2139
01:43:06,940 --> 01:43:08,940
I have no food rules.
2140
01:43:08,975 --> 01:43:11,448
There are no good foods,
there are no bad foods,
2141
01:43:11,483 --> 01:43:15,287
there are no foods
I can or cannot eat.
2142
01:43:15,322 --> 01:43:18,224
That has been
utterly liberating for me.
2143
01:43:18,259 --> 01:43:20,589
And based on how I feel now,
2144
01:43:20,624 --> 01:43:22,987
that's how I educate my clients
2145
01:43:23,022 --> 01:43:25,660
and educate my followers
on social media platforms
2146
01:43:25,695 --> 01:43:29,433
to apply those same principles.
2147
01:43:29,468 --> 01:43:31,732
Okay.
2148
01:43:35,441 --> 01:43:40,543
♪
2149
01:43:40,578 --> 01:43:43,546
So, some people,
they'll come into treatment
2150
01:43:43,581 --> 01:43:48,386
and they will say,
"Maybe, maybe, you know,
2151
01:43:48,421 --> 01:43:49,882
I just didn't try hard enough,
2152
01:43:49,917 --> 01:43:53,017
and actually, if I put
everything I know together
2153
01:43:53,052 --> 01:43:55,426
and do it one more time,
then it will just be easier,"
2154
01:43:55,461 --> 01:43:58,693
but that, again,
is part of that fear
2155
01:43:58,728 --> 01:44:03,302
of giving up this promise
that we clung to for so long
2156
01:44:03,337 --> 01:44:05,029
about a quick fix
or an easier way out
2157
01:44:05,064 --> 01:44:08,439
than going into the deep,
2158
01:44:08,474 --> 01:44:11,508
messy, painful, emotional stuff.
2159
01:44:11,543 --> 01:44:14,038
And, sometimes, you know,
sometimes people just need
2160
01:44:14,073 --> 01:44:16,414
to be disappointed, you know,
2161
01:44:16,449 --> 01:44:18,449
they need to try
that one last diet
2162
01:44:18,484 --> 01:44:20,011
and see that
it still hasn't worked
2163
01:44:20,046 --> 01:44:22,288
and it still doesn't
change anything
2164
01:44:22,323 --> 01:44:25,390
for them to come back and say,
"Okay, I'm done.
2165
01:44:25,425 --> 01:44:27,018
I'm divorcing diets,
2166
01:44:27,053 --> 01:44:28,657
and I'm ready to start
my new life
2167
01:44:28,692 --> 01:44:31,495
and my new relationship
with myself."
2168
01:44:31,530 --> 01:44:36,027
♪
2169
01:44:36,062 --> 01:44:37,534
I think it's also
really important
2170
01:44:37,569 --> 01:44:39,635
to keep your own
family dynamics going,
2171
01:44:39,670 --> 01:44:43,804
because it's very damaging
to family relationships.
2172
01:44:43,839 --> 01:44:49,073
And I've taken up every course
in town
2173
01:44:49,108 --> 01:44:51,779
and I learned a lot.
2174
01:44:51,814 --> 01:44:54,815
Sometimes you have to learn
the hard way.
2175
01:44:54,850 --> 01:44:58,555
But it's been
a very long journey.
2176
01:44:58,590 --> 01:45:01,393
♪
2177
01:45:01,428 --> 01:45:05,991
But... but now it does feel
so much better, and...
2178
01:45:06,026 --> 01:45:07,894
♪
2179
01:45:07,929 --> 01:45:11,733
I'm incredibly proud of...
2180
01:45:11,768 --> 01:45:15,869
of what Hannah does every day.
2181
01:45:15,904 --> 01:45:20,940
And I kind of know that she'll
get there on her own now.
2182
01:45:20,975 --> 01:45:28,975
♪
2183
01:45:34,153 --> 01:45:36,527
♪
2184
01:45:36,562 --> 01:45:40,025
For me, more than anti-diet,
more than anything else,
2185
01:45:40,060 --> 01:45:44,832
the key to finding
some sense of healing
2186
01:45:44,867 --> 01:45:46,669
has been through compassion,
2187
01:45:46,704 --> 01:45:49,771
non-judgmental compassion
and kindness.
2188
01:45:49,806 --> 01:45:52,675
I mean it's pretty incredible
the extremes
2189
01:45:52,710 --> 01:45:55,711
that my body's been through
and, yet, here it is,
2190
01:45:55,746 --> 01:45:57,647
I'm still surviving.
2191
01:45:57,682 --> 01:46:00,078
So, you know,
I just have to take
2192
01:46:00,113 --> 01:46:01,783
what I can be grateful for,
2193
01:46:01,818 --> 01:46:03,785
acknowledge the days
that are really difficult
2194
01:46:03,820 --> 01:46:06,656
and just, you know,
keep moving on.
2195
01:46:06,691 --> 01:46:09,989
♪
2196
01:46:10,024 --> 01:46:11,661
I think that the fact
that my family
2197
01:46:11,696 --> 01:46:15,126
never gave up hope
that things could be different
2198
01:46:15,161 --> 01:46:17,029
is the reason why I'm here today
2199
01:46:17,064 --> 01:46:21,935
because had they not,
had they not believed in me,
2200
01:46:21,970 --> 01:46:24,069
I wouldn't... I didn't
believe in myself,
2201
01:46:24,104 --> 01:46:25,873
so I needed my family,
2202
01:46:25,908 --> 01:46:28,810
and I had some
really great friends as well
2203
01:46:28,845 --> 01:46:31,483
who always told me
that things could be different
2204
01:46:31,518 --> 01:46:34,013
and that it didn't
have to be that way,
2205
01:46:34,048 --> 01:46:36,422
and I think because of that...
2206
01:46:36,457 --> 01:46:37,687
♪
2207
01:46:37,722 --> 01:46:39,117
I am here now.
2208
01:46:39,152 --> 01:46:43,594
♪
2209
01:46:43,629 --> 01:46:46,465
I started to realize
that even though
2210
01:46:46,500 --> 01:46:48,632
I have been through a lot
and the trauma is deep,
2211
01:46:48,667 --> 01:46:49,897
I don't like pity parties.
2212
01:46:49,932 --> 01:46:51,096
Then, I tried to see, well,
2213
01:46:51,131 --> 01:46:52,867
everyone's been through
some stuff.
2214
01:46:52,902 --> 01:46:54,506
Everyone's got trauma,
2215
01:46:54,541 --> 01:46:56,541
everyone's family lives
haven't been perfect,
2216
01:46:56,576 --> 01:46:58,180
everyone struggles
with their eating habits,
2217
01:46:58,204 --> 01:46:59,940
everyone struggles
with their insecurities
2218
01:46:59,975 --> 01:47:01,711
and their appearance, okay.
2219
01:47:01,746 --> 01:47:04,813
So if I'm getting this healing
2220
01:47:04,848 --> 01:47:07,486
and I feel like I've been
at the bottom of the heap,
2221
01:47:07,521 --> 01:47:10,181
there's no way that everyone
can't get it themselves
2222
01:47:10,216 --> 01:47:13,525
because we have all been
underestimated
2223
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,528
in some way, shape, or form.
2224
01:47:16,563 --> 01:47:18,156
And to be underestimated
2225
01:47:18,191 --> 01:47:20,598
is one of the greatest
vantage points,
2226
01:47:20,633 --> 01:47:22,534
because no one
is looking at you,
2227
01:47:22,569 --> 01:47:26,098
so you take your time,
you observe, and like me,
2228
01:47:26,133 --> 01:47:29,541
you ride in
on a chariot of fire.
2229
01:47:29,576 --> 01:47:31,708
If I can put this body out there
2230
01:47:31,743 --> 01:47:35,206
that has been violated publicly
and in private,
2231
01:47:35,241 --> 01:47:38,011
that I have violated myself
sometimes
2232
01:47:38,046 --> 01:47:40,519
and my self-harm
and the issues that I have,
2233
01:47:40,554 --> 01:47:43,621
if this can reach
any amount of love,
2234
01:47:43,656 --> 01:47:46,624
if this can get on stage
at Glastonbury...
2235
01:47:51,763 --> 01:47:53,499
♪
2236
01:47:53,534 --> 01:47:57,030
If I can, then, yeah,
I will wave this flag,
2237
01:47:57,065 --> 01:47:59,736
scream on the top
of rooftops and shout
2238
01:47:59,771 --> 01:48:01,870
and be that champion
for everyone else,
2239
01:48:01,905 --> 01:48:05,742
because I can't keep
this happiness to myself.
2240
01:48:05,777 --> 01:48:08,613
Nah, that'd be too selfish.
2241
01:48:08,648 --> 01:48:10,648
You get a bag! You get a bag!
2242
01:48:10,683 --> 01:48:13,046
You get... you know,
everyone gets a piece of it.
2243
01:48:15,688 --> 01:48:18,051
♪
2244
01:48:18,086 --> 01:48:20,658
So I'm hoping
that we get to a point
2245
01:48:20,693 --> 01:48:24,123
where this topic
is talked about so frequently
2246
01:48:24,158 --> 01:48:27,258
that it becomes normal
to talk about it and it's okay
2247
01:48:27,293 --> 01:48:30,096
and it becomes normal to say,
"Yeah, I have a problem
2248
01:48:30,131 --> 01:48:32,032
with my relationship with food.
2249
01:48:32,067 --> 01:48:34,606
I would like it to improve."
2250
01:48:34,641 --> 01:48:35,641
♪
2251
01:48:35,675 --> 01:48:37,642
It becomes normal to say,
2252
01:48:37,677 --> 01:48:40,040
"Yeah, I'm afraid of being fat,
2253
01:48:40,075 --> 01:48:42,207
and I'd like to work out
whether that fear
2254
01:48:42,242 --> 01:48:45,012
is coming from a real place."
2255
01:48:45,047 --> 01:48:46,717
We don't all need
to change overnight,
2256
01:48:46,752 --> 01:48:49,247
but we need to be willing
to talk about it.
2257
01:48:49,282 --> 01:48:57,282
♪
2258
01:49:19,719 --> 01:49:22,115
Unsubscribe from...
2259
01:49:22,150 --> 01:49:23,952
From the thin ideal.
2260
01:49:23,987 --> 01:49:26,757
Other people's expectations
of you.
2261
01:49:26,792 --> 01:49:29,925
Unsubscribe from social media.
2262
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:31,157
♪
2263
01:49:31,192 --> 01:49:32,796
From women's magazines.
2264
01:49:32,831 --> 01:49:34,325
Food guilt.
2265
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:37,801
Unsubscribe from...
2266
01:49:37,836 --> 01:49:42,069
From the idea
that fat equals unhealthy.
2267
01:49:42,104 --> 01:49:44,236
Conformity.
2268
01:49:44,271 --> 01:49:47,811
Unsubscribe from...
2269
01:49:47,846 --> 01:49:49,142
♪
2270
01:49:49,177 --> 01:49:51,716
Hang on, I'm gonna think
about that for a second.
2271
01:49:51,751 --> 01:49:53,652
Unsubscribe from accounts
on social media
2272
01:49:53,687 --> 01:49:55,984
that you make you feel bad
about yourself.
2273
01:49:56,019 --> 01:49:57,348
Punishing your body.
2274
01:49:57,383 --> 01:50:00,989
Society's standard of beauty.
2275
01:50:01,024 --> 01:50:04,663
From white supremacy
and fatphobia.
2276
01:50:04,698 --> 01:50:06,929
Unsubscribe from the voice
in your head
2277
01:50:06,964 --> 01:50:10,933
that wasn't yours
in the first place.
2278
01:50:10,968 --> 01:50:15,168
How about just unsubscribe
from self-loathing?
2279
01:50:15,203 --> 01:50:17,973
Instagram accounts
that don't back up claims
2280
01:50:18,008 --> 01:50:20,943
with evidence
like the Medical Medium,
2281
01:50:20,978 --> 01:50:23,407
anything that promotes
celery juice,
2282
01:50:23,442 --> 01:50:26,685
and anything that makes you
feel bad in your person
2283
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:29,919
or body or health status.
2284
01:50:29,954 --> 01:50:34,121
Being pressured by diet culture.
2285
01:50:34,156 --> 01:50:42,156
♪
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