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NARRATOR:
Next on "Alien Highway"...
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Sedona is a mecca
for paranormal activity.
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Somebody in
the higher echelons
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of our government
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understands
what's going on here.
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[ Camera shutter clicks ]
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I saw this bright light.
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Over 10,000 people
saw these phenomena.
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Military guys just come up
out of nowhere.
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CHUCK: Do you believe that
the federal government
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may be hiding
what's going on?
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Oh, sure.
Yes.
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What was that?
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CHUCK: That's a helicopter.
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Yeah, right there.
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Holy [bleep]
Where'd it go?
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They know we're here.
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♪♪
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CHUCK: There's something
happening across our land.
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It's carving a terrifying path.
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Right there.
-Whoa! Whoa!
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CHUCK: Lawmen don't want
to talk about it...
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I have no idea how you
would explain that.
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...and the government denies
it's even happening.
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REPORTER:
The White House has dismissed
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a full UFO investigation.
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Those who speak up
face ridicule or even worse.
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REPORTER #2: An El Paso County
sheriff's deputy
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fired from his job.
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They took my badge,
but they can't take my voice.
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I'm determined to
uncover what's happening.
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Look at that thing!
Do you see that?
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I saw it that night.
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I listen to people
who are afraid to speak out.
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Nobody is
gonna believe me.
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I find evidence
that's hiding in plain sight.
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This is it right here.
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Together with my son
Dan Zukowski...
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It's absolutely
moving right now.
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CHUCK: ....and investigator
Heather Taddy...
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We never
really get this close.
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...I'm here to find the truth...
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DAN: I see it!
[ Yells indistinctly ]
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CHUCK: ...along America's
Alien Highway.
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♪♪
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NARRATOR:
Arizona is home
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to the striking landscape
of the Grand Canyon
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as well as 20
Indian reservations.
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It's also no stranger
to UFO encounters.
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HEATHER: What's that?
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Every year, over 300 sightings
are reported statewide.
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REPORTER #3: Something bizarre
happened in the skies
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over Phoenix last night,
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and so far,
no one can explain it.
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NARRATOR:
That's over 6,000 encounters
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in the past 20 years.
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Phoenix ranks as the
number-one city for UFO reports,
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raising the question --
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What makes Arizona
such a hot spot for UFOs,
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and what is the purpose
of their frequent visits?
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♪♪
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CHUCK:
So you guys have heard
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of the 1997 March 13th
Phoenix light incident?
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Yeah, it was
a pretty big deal.
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Well, we have another sighting
in the same area.
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What type of sighting?
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It was a high-altitude
commercial-pilot sighting.
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Oh.
Oh.
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Sweet, so he's a pilot.
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He's been a commercial pilot
for a while now,
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but I believe he's got some
military flying experience also.
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Oh, okay.He's been trained
to observe.
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He's a credible witness
at this point.
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Now we get an opportunity
to find out
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from a pilot's point of view
about UFO sightings.
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If they have sightings,
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they generally
don't come forward.
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They're afraid
of being ridiculed,
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or they're afraid
of some type of backlash.
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I mean, he's putting
his job at risk,
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his reputation.
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♪♪
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Blen Green,
nice to meet you.
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-Nice to meet you, too.
-What did you see?
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BLENUS: It was February
the 24th of last year.
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We were going
from San Diego to DFW.
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It was the middle
of the afternoon,
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bright, beautiful day.
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We were, I think,
35,000 or 37,000 feet.
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There was a general aviation
jet in front of us,
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and we heard this jet
in front of us ask
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Albuquerque Center,
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"Hey, you know, what plane
just flew over the top of us?"
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And Albuquerque Center said,
"We have nothing on radar."
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So then Albuquerque
Center asked me.
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Maybe a minute later, you know,
I saw this...
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the best way to describe
it is a bright light.
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I mean, I've been flying jets
since 1987.
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I've never seen anything
like it, ever.
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When you're at 35,000 feet,
generally,
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you're above most of the clouds.
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So I mean, there's sunshine,
you know?
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I mean, it's bright, and for
something to be that bright,
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in the middle of the day,
it's pretty phenomenal.
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So it wasn't some reflection
on it, then?
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It was actually emitting
its own light?
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Yes.
Yeah.
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-Not a flare, not a star.
-No.
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Do flares even operate
at that altitude for...
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From another airplane?
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Yeah, but a flare is gonna
burn out pretty quickly.
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Yeah.
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What about
a high-altitude drone?
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No, a drone is not gonna be
as big as another airliner,
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and it's not gonna be
emitting that light either.
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Most pilots are afraid to talk
about what they've seen,
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let alone go public.
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Most pilots are probably
just reluctant
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to say something
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just because of the stigma
attached to it.
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I feel okay talking about it
because it's documented.
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Four other pilots saw it
in two different aircrafts.
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I would just like to know
what we saw.
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Nobody ever came in, you know,
in an official capacity
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from the government or FAA
or anything.
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Nobody ever came
and asked me what I saw.
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Well, would you think it would
be a national security thing
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if there was something
flying up there?
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You would think, right?
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DAN:
I think it's pretty odd
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that you
have this credible captain
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reporting to the
air-traffic controller
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that they now have seen
the same object
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that another pilot has seen,
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and then they're just, like,
nonchalant about it.
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"Oh, okay, cool."
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And then they just
keep flying.
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Like, I don't understand that.
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Did that experience
change your views on UFOs?
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In the past, if somebody
said they saw a UFO,
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I might, you know, go,
"Right, whatever."
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Mm-hmm.
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But now
I wouldn't discount it.
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I actually know a couple
of people in Colorado
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that saw the same thing
that you saw,
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but they saw it
from the ground.
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It was the same day?It was the same day.
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If it's okay with you,
I'd like to Skype them
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real quick,
have you talk with them.
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Yeah, sure.
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It's okay?
Yeah.
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I'm Blen, Blenus Green.
How are you?
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I'm Pat Staffieri,
and this Maria.
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I am Maria Staffieri.
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Nice to meet you.
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Go ahead and describe
your sighting.
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Well, we were up
on Interstate 10,
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and we were heading
in a westerly direction.
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It was just a bright light,
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and it was about 7 miles
when we first saw it,
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and we kept heading west,
and it never moved.
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It can't be an airplane.
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There's no blinking lights,
and it was a large light.
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And it just hovered there.
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There were people standing
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on the side of the roads,
looking up.
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Really?
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It was approximately 2:00
to 3:00 when we saw it.
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I think
it was late afternoon.
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Okay.
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And it was just
like you said.
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It was just this bright light,
and it was weird
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because it was bright
all the way around it.
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So normally, you know,
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if the sun
is hitting something,
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the reflection of the sun
is gonna be brighter
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than the backside.
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Well, this thing,
the backside
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was just as bright
as the front side.
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All the way around,
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it was just one
constant brightness.
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That's exactly correct.
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That's exactly what we saw.
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Yes.
-Yeah.
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CHUCK: What I really liked
about Captain Blenus' report
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was not only do
we have a pilot
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that saw something
30,000 feet up,
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but now we have two eyewitnesses
that saw it from ground level.
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That really validates
this UFO sighting.
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Wow, that's a lot of information
to download right there.
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Four pilots saw it.
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And not only that,
but...
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and then two more people
from the ground saw it.
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Well, that light
had to be bright.
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So it was bright enough
that the people
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from the ground
could see it, too.
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And let's not forget
where we are.
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This is Phoenix.
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This is
a really hot area.
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Heather, I think what
we need to do
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is do a little research
on the Phoenix lights...
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Yeah.
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...and see it it correlates
with what the pilot saw.
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What are you
thinking, Dan?
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I want to get with the tower,
and I want to figure out
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where exactly those planes
were at,
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get their coordinates,
their exact altitude,
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exact time of day.
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Maybe between what you get
and what we get,
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we can kind of figure out
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where these things
are coming from.
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I bet there's more up
there than we think.
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Well, that's what we're here
to find out.
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We've got a lot of work
ahead of us,
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so let's go do it.
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NARRATOR: One of the witnesses
to the 1997 Phoenix Lights
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is Dr. Lynne Kitei.
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Her documentary on the event
is screening at a local theater,
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and she's agreed
to meet with the team.
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♪♪
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CHUCK: Dr. Lynne, I want to
learn what really happened
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with the Phoenix Lights.
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March 13th, what was
so impactful
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was that thousands of people
were purposely outside,
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looking up...
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They were oval-shaped,
like an egg on its side.
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The light did not extend
outside the edge.
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It was self-contained,
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and I thought,
"Wow, an actual craft."
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It was just the most
awesome sight I ever saw.
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I thought, "Geez, I've got
to get a picture of this
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or no one
is gonna believe it."
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I started clicking away.
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[ Camera shutter clicking ]
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♪♪
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And immediately noticed
an eerie silence.
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It actually felt that
something was watching me.
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We've seen
special-operations people
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show up
armed to the teeth.
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Hey, guys.
I've got a helicopter coming in.
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I just saw something
over there.
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REPORTER #4:
There are currently
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hundreds of eyewitnesses
coming forward
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in an event now known
as the Phoenix Lights.
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It was just the most
awesome sight I ever saw.
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I thought, "Geez, I've got
to get a picture of this
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or no one
is gonna believe it."
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I started clicking away.
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[ Camera shutter clicking ]
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♪♪
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And immediately noticed
an eerie silence.
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It actually felt that something
was watching me.
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It was unnerving.
I started to shake.
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I thought, "What is this,
a mother ship or a fleet?"
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I mean, it was massive.
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There were jets sent out
to intercept
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one of these
mile-wide craft.
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As they approached,
the lights started to dim
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as they got
a little closer.
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The entire thing blinked out
and disappeared.
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When the Phoenix Lights
happened,
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what did the local
authorities say?
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After the mass sighting,
there was no investigation.
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But we're talking over
10,000 people,
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at least that's estimated,
that saw these phenomena.
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And a month later, I get a call
from one of the PR heads
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from the Air National Guard,
and she goes, "Oh, Dr. Lynne,
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I think we know what those
lights were back in March."
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You know, she says to me
that the Air National Guard
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was in town setting off flares
in Operation "Snowbird,"
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which I later found out
meant diversion
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or tactical maneuvers
in military terms,
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which, hey, they may have
been sending off flares,
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but there's not one witness
that has described
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any of the flare
characteristics.
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CHUCK: It seems like
it's a cover-up.
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Exactly.
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In May,
former Councilwoman
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Vice Mayor Frances Barwood
asked,
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"Why isn't there
an investigation?"
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She was plastered
by the media,
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and there was so much ridicule
and snickering.
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CHUCK: When real people are
actually seeing these things,
285
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experiencing these things,
286
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why does the media
make fun of this?
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Some people can't deal
with this topic.
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HEATHER: Yes.
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Some people
don't want to.
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And that was one of the
big reasons I came forward,
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not only to set
the record straight,
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get the data out there,
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let people know
they're not crazy.
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It's important to share
and not let it fester
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when you have
an experience like this.
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You've lived in the area
for a long time.
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Have you heard of any other
sightings like this before?
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Oh, yes.
299
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What's really interesting
is there are Navajo Rangers,
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law enforcement.
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They have come forward
to acknowledge
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that they are happening,
and they need to be studied.
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It'd be great
if we could interview
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one of the Navajo contacts
that she has.
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Oh, absolutely.
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♪♪
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NARRATOR:
While Chuck and Heather
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conclude their interview
with Dr. Lynne,
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Dan gathers information from
the Albuquerque Control Tower.
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My name is Dan Zukowski.
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I have some questions
about how you guys operate
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when it comes
to your flight patterns.
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If I wanted to actually
get information
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pertaining to a certain day,
is that possible?
315
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Okay.
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Took some digging,
but I was able to obtain
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Captain Blenus' flight pattern
for the day.
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I'm hoping that's gonna
help us determine
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where that craft
was coming from.
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NARRATOR: Meanwhile, Chuck
reaches out
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to Dr. Lynne's contact,
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a retired Navajo Ranger
who has been investigating
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UFO sightings
for over 10 years.
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Navajo Rangers protect
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and patrol
tribal historical sights
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in the Southwestern
United States.
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I appreciate the opportunity
to talk to you.
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I couldn't wait
for this interview
329
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because I was pretty excited
to talk with a Navajo Ranger.
330
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I had heard at least
some of them
331
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were talking about
having UFO sightings.
332
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Have you personally
seen anything?
333
00:14:28,862 --> 00:14:30,452
Many, many times.
334
00:14:32,379 --> 00:14:34,309
I've seen orbs.
335
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I was followed by one.
336
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The orb that
was following me
337
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was about the size
of a basketball
338
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at about 2:00
in the morning.
339
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It followed me right down
the middle of the highway
340
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for about 35 miles.
341
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It continued to parallel
my course,
342
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and then it just faded out
and disappeared.
343
00:14:51,931 --> 00:14:53,481
Wow.
344
00:14:53,482 --> 00:14:55,932
In my work, you rely
on your sixth sense,
345
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and all the flags
went up during that time,
346
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and I got this feeling
347
00:15:01,724 --> 00:15:05,074
that it didn't mean me
any good.
348
00:15:05,068 --> 00:15:07,338
Were you hesitant to talk
about your sightings
349
00:15:07,344 --> 00:15:09,724
while you were active
law enforcement?
350
00:15:09,724 --> 00:15:12,414
Back in 2000,
during that time,
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the police department
352
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didn't want to handle
those cases,
353
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and they ridiculed the people
that reported them.
354
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My director
instructed us
355
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that we will
take these cases.
356
00:15:23,379 --> 00:15:25,379
We will take them seriously
and investigate them
357
00:15:25,379 --> 00:15:27,139
the best of our ability.
358
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For 11 years, we investigated
these type of cases.
359
00:15:30,241 --> 00:15:32,831
Have you ever had anybody
from the federal government
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try to intervene
in your investigations?
361
00:15:35,724 --> 00:15:38,314
We have a long history
of distrust
362
00:15:38,310 --> 00:15:39,930
of the U.S. government.
363
00:15:39,931 --> 00:15:42,591
We've seen special-operations
people show up
364
00:15:42,586 --> 00:15:44,586
after some of
our investigations.
365
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We've seen flights
of black helicopters
366
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flying over the area.
367
00:15:49,689 --> 00:15:53,139
We had a black Cadillac
Escalade show up.
368
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Guy comes out.
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He's armed to the teeth,
wearing battle dress uniform.
370
00:15:57,551 --> 00:15:59,211
Then he opens up the back.
371
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He takes out what looks
like an ice chest,
372
00:16:01,655 --> 00:16:03,965
opens the ice chest,
and smoke came out of it.
373
00:16:03,965 --> 00:16:05,825
So I'm thinking dry ice.
374
00:16:05,827 --> 00:16:07,757
He picks up something
off the ground,
375
00:16:07,758 --> 00:16:12,208
puts it inside
and then drives off.
376
00:16:12,206 --> 00:16:15,856
You believe that the federal
government may be hiding
377
00:16:15,862 --> 00:16:19,002
what's going on, you know,
at least in your area?
378
00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,480
Oh, sure.
Yes.
379
00:16:21,482 --> 00:16:23,482
Why is Arizona
so active?
380
00:16:23,482 --> 00:16:26,832
I think that there's
some kind of vortex
381
00:16:26,827 --> 00:16:28,687
that's in Sedona
382
00:16:28,689 --> 00:16:31,069
where we have
a lot of sightings.
383
00:16:31,068 --> 00:16:33,968
Things seem to pop in.
384
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CHUCK: The vortex is a really
interesting theory.
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We had these lights as large
as an airplane appearing
386
00:16:38,551 --> 00:16:40,791
and disappearing
right over them,
387
00:16:40,793 --> 00:16:43,143
so that's one explanation
why something so big
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can just vanish instantly.
389
00:16:45,413 --> 00:16:47,933
♪♪
390
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NARRATOR:
After gathering data
391
00:16:49,586 --> 00:16:51,586
from the Albuquerque
Control Tower,
392
00:16:51,586 --> 00:16:55,756
Dan reunites with the team
to share his findings.
393
00:16:55,758 --> 00:16:58,068
DAN: So I made contact
with Albuquerque Center,
394
00:16:58,068 --> 00:17:00,858
and I was able to get
some information from them.
395
00:17:00,862 --> 00:17:05,412
Based off of what Captain Blenus
had seen and where he'd seen it,
396
00:17:05,413 --> 00:17:06,903
it looks like
it's coming from Sedona.
397
00:17:06,896 --> 00:17:09,066
CHUCK: That's exactly
where the Rangers
398
00:17:09,068 --> 00:17:10,378
had their sightings.
399
00:17:10,379 --> 00:17:14,069
It looks like Sedona
is where we need to go.
400
00:17:14,068 --> 00:17:16,168
Did you just see the flash
over there?
401
00:17:16,172 --> 00:17:17,762
It just disappeared.
402
00:17:17,758 --> 00:17:19,758
CHUCK: [Bleep]
I got a helicopter coming in.
403
00:17:26,965 --> 00:17:29,165
♪♪
404
00:17:29,172 --> 00:17:31,032
NARRATOR: After interviewing
405
00:17:31,034 --> 00:17:33,344
multiple UFO witnesses
in Phoenix,
406
00:17:33,344 --> 00:17:36,904
Chuck has pinpointed Sedona
as a possible epicenter
407
00:17:36,896 --> 00:17:39,896
of these mysterious sightings.
408
00:17:39,896 --> 00:17:42,966
The presence of vortexes
in Sedona could explain
409
00:17:42,965 --> 00:17:45,895
why this is such
a hot spot for UFOs.
410
00:17:45,896 --> 00:17:48,716
♪♪
411
00:17:48,724 --> 00:17:51,974
Physicist Pete Sanders
has been investigating
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00:17:51,965 --> 00:17:54,275
the phenomenon for decades.
413
00:17:56,275 --> 00:17:58,715
The vortex is an enhanced
energy site
414
00:17:58,724 --> 00:18:02,694
that makes it easier
to dimensions beyond.
415
00:18:02,689 --> 00:18:05,069
Is there any instrument,
like an EMF meter,
416
00:18:05,068 --> 00:18:07,858
that can detect
a vortex?
417
00:18:07,862 --> 00:18:10,102
We can't use
current technology
418
00:18:10,103 --> 00:18:11,693
to measure the vortexes
419
00:18:11,689 --> 00:18:14,279
because the energy flows
are probably
420
00:18:14,275 --> 00:18:16,305
in the dimensions
beyond...
421
00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:19,520
that superstrings physics
says now everybody exists in.
422
00:18:19,517 --> 00:18:21,377
Superstrings physics
basically says,
423
00:18:21,379 --> 00:18:24,279
everything exists in 10
or more dimensions.
424
00:18:24,275 --> 00:18:27,515
So vortex, you can tap
dimensions beyond
425
00:18:27,517 --> 00:18:31,067
and maybe even connect
with extradimensional beings.
426
00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:32,718
Hmm.
427
00:18:32,724 --> 00:18:35,074
I think a lot of people seem
to think of a vortex
428
00:18:35,068 --> 00:18:36,618
as sort of tornado.
429
00:18:36,620 --> 00:18:38,380
Is that accurate?
430
00:18:38,379 --> 00:18:43,339
It's not measurable
like a wind tornado,
431
00:18:43,344 --> 00:18:45,314
but there's a lot of things
432
00:18:45,310 --> 00:18:48,280
that aren't as physically
tangible as wind,
433
00:18:48,275 --> 00:18:51,065
like electromagnetic
radio-wave signals
434
00:18:51,068 --> 00:18:53,788
or, you know,
pulses from the stars.
435
00:18:53,793 --> 00:18:57,243
They were existing even
before we could measure them,
436
00:18:57,241 --> 00:19:00,931
so, too, these energy flows
and these deeper dimensions
437
00:19:00,931 --> 00:19:06,001
are not currently measurable
with our current technology.
438
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,590
Aliens, then,
could be using vortexes.
439
00:19:09,586 --> 00:19:11,446
Correct.
440
00:19:11,448 --> 00:19:14,278
There's something coming in
and out of this area
441
00:19:14,275 --> 00:19:16,615
and traveling
across Arizona.
442
00:19:16,620 --> 00:19:19,210
The Phoenix Lights probably
came over this area, too,
443
00:19:19,206 --> 00:19:21,336
back in 1997.
444
00:19:21,344 --> 00:19:23,554
They might be using it
to help communicate
445
00:19:23,551 --> 00:19:27,031
by the veil
being pierced a little bit.
446
00:19:27,034 --> 00:19:30,174
NARRATOR: While vortexes cannot
be seen or measured,
447
00:19:30,172 --> 00:19:32,072
witnesses repeatedly link them
448
00:19:32,068 --> 00:19:34,898
to the presence
of UFOs in Sedona.
449
00:19:34,896 --> 00:19:37,446
Native Americans have been
documenting encounters
450
00:19:37,448 --> 00:19:40,658
with extraterrestrials
for thousands of years,
451
00:19:40,655 --> 00:19:43,475
reporting mysterious
celestial beings
452
00:19:43,482 --> 00:19:46,522
that are able to manifest
as spheres of light.
453
00:19:46,517 --> 00:19:48,717
Could it be that these craft
are back,
454
00:19:48,724 --> 00:19:52,724
trying to communicate
with modern society?
455
00:19:52,724 --> 00:19:55,764
The team will now be meeting
with a Sedona local
456
00:19:55,758 --> 00:19:59,238
who's been documenting sightings
for the last decade.
457
00:19:59,241 --> 00:20:00,901
So the first thing
is Bear Mountain,
458
00:20:00,896 --> 00:20:02,136
right in front of us.
459
00:20:02,137 --> 00:20:03,547
All of the Sedona locals
will tell you
460
00:20:03,551 --> 00:20:06,241
that's a well-known
UFO hot spot.
461
00:20:06,241 --> 00:20:08,211
And if you go behind
Bear Mountain,
462
00:20:08,206 --> 00:20:11,546
that road is gonna
dead-end to Bradshaw Ranch.
463
00:20:11,551 --> 00:20:13,001
DAN: And what's
at Bradshaw Ranch?
464
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,550
Something happen there?
465
00:20:14,551 --> 00:20:18,071
So I have seen all kinds
of things at Bradshaw Ranch,
466
00:20:18,068 --> 00:20:20,658
from UFOs
to black helicopters
467
00:20:20,655 --> 00:20:24,545
going in and out of there,
weird encounters.
468
00:20:24,551 --> 00:20:26,451
A lot of people
will tell you,
469
00:20:26,448 --> 00:20:29,588
they could just be hiking
anywhere around Bear Mountain,
470
00:20:29,586 --> 00:20:32,786
and all of a sudden,
military guys in full gear
471
00:20:32,793 --> 00:20:35,663
and automatic weapons
just come up out of nowhere,
472
00:20:35,655 --> 00:20:37,305
tell them to turn around
and leave
473
00:20:37,310 --> 00:20:39,970
and then just
kind of disappear.
474
00:20:39,965 --> 00:20:42,205
What it sounds like, there's
a lot of stuff going on here,
475
00:20:42,206 --> 00:20:45,066
so it would make sense
that there is military here.
476
00:20:45,068 --> 00:20:46,858
HEATHER:
The people that have been
confronting these hikers,
477
00:20:46,862 --> 00:20:50,282
do you think they're connected
to the government?
478
00:20:50,275 --> 00:20:51,965
Some type of government,
probably not the ones
479
00:20:51,965 --> 00:20:53,755
that we think of
as government.
480
00:20:53,758 --> 00:20:58,068
The lights and the craft you see
are in this area right here?
481
00:20:58,068 --> 00:21:00,658
Yeah, Bear Mountain a lot,
Secret Mountain Wilderness,
482
00:21:00,655 --> 00:21:02,515
a little bit on
Wilson Mountain.
483
00:21:02,517 --> 00:21:06,377
So we see a lot of ships
go in and out.
484
00:21:06,379 --> 00:21:08,449
I've got pictures of everything
that I've seen out here,
485
00:21:08,448 --> 00:21:10,478
so I will share them
with you.
486
00:21:10,482 --> 00:21:13,032
♪♪
487
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ANITA:
So here is a little flyby.
488
00:21:15,896 --> 00:21:18,236
-Huh.
-That's interesting.
489
00:21:18,241 --> 00:21:20,001
Right over there,
Bear Mountain.
490
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,450
So right over there,
Bear Mountain.
491
00:21:21,448 --> 00:21:23,928
Right here is the ships
coming out of Bear.
492
00:21:23,931 --> 00:21:25,551
CHUCK:
Now that looks like...
493
00:21:25,551 --> 00:21:27,481
They almost look like
just floating light bulbs.
494
00:21:27,482 --> 00:21:30,692
-Yeah.
-Yeah, that's weird.
495
00:21:30,689 --> 00:21:33,029
That looks bright, okay.
That's what I want to see.
496
00:21:33,034 --> 00:21:34,174
-Whoa.
-Yeah, that's the stuff.
497
00:21:34,172 --> 00:21:35,522
DAN: That's what
I'm talking about.
498
00:21:35,517 --> 00:21:37,167
If there's one spot
on that mountain
499
00:21:37,172 --> 00:21:39,142
where there's a lot of activity,
where is it at?
500
00:21:39,137 --> 00:21:40,717
There are several
hot spots,
501
00:21:40,724 --> 00:21:42,974
but I'd need infrared laser
to point them out.
502
00:21:42,965 --> 00:21:44,205
CHUCK:
Yeah, we can mark that.
503
00:21:44,206 --> 00:21:45,786
But it won't work
during the day.
504
00:21:45,793 --> 00:21:48,663
Okay, let's set up
for a night watch.
505
00:21:48,655 --> 00:21:50,165
So are we gonna see
anything tonight?
506
00:21:50,172 --> 00:21:52,002
If the sky clears up,
absolutely.
507
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,210
If I flash
the laser at them,
508
00:21:54,206 --> 00:21:56,336
and they flash back,
that's communication.
509
00:21:56,344 --> 00:21:57,904
-That would be interesting.
-Yeah, oh, yeah.
510
00:21:57,896 --> 00:21:58,756
-Yeah.
-Yeah, we want that.
511
00:21:58,758 --> 00:22:00,068
Yeah.
512
00:22:00,068 --> 00:22:01,448
We know that there's something
going on in the area
513
00:22:01,448 --> 00:22:04,028
based on all
the military presence, but why?
514
00:22:04,034 --> 00:22:05,794
What are they monitoring?
515
00:22:07,724 --> 00:22:09,004
CHUCK: Alright, Anita.
516
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,690
What's the game plan
for tonight?
517
00:22:10,689 --> 00:22:13,619
Well, we can all put
our superpowers together
518
00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:14,900
and get the sky
to clear.
519
00:22:14,896 --> 00:22:16,476
That would be awesome.
520
00:22:18,379 --> 00:22:20,589
So this down here,
this is Bear Mountain.
521
00:22:20,586 --> 00:22:22,066
A lot of the contact
that I have made
522
00:22:22,068 --> 00:22:24,308
has been that area
right there.
523
00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:26,380
To the left of there,
there are no roads,
524
00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:27,619
and there are no houses,
525
00:22:27,620 --> 00:22:30,340
so it's really dark
in that area.
526
00:22:30,344 --> 00:22:31,664
A lot of times,
we'll see slow movement.
527
00:22:31,655 --> 00:22:33,445
Like, all of a sudden,
there will be a light
528
00:22:33,448 --> 00:22:35,998
on top of Bear,
and it will just slowly move.
529
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,520
Sometimes it'll disappear,
530
00:22:37,517 --> 00:22:39,617
and sometimes
it'll flash back.
531
00:22:39,620 --> 00:22:44,070
♪♪
532
00:22:44,068 --> 00:22:45,998
Well, we do have a lot
of cloud cover,
533
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,140
which is unfortunate
for us right now,
534
00:22:48,137 --> 00:22:49,757
but behind me,
I'm starting to see
535
00:22:49,758 --> 00:22:52,618
a couple of stars peek out.Oh, yeah?
536
00:22:52,620 --> 00:22:54,410
HEATHER: I can see one star
in front of us.
537
00:22:54,413 --> 00:22:57,763
Yeah, so I think the clouds
are gonna start to move.
538
00:22:57,758 --> 00:22:59,168
ANITA:
But here's an airplane.
539
00:22:59,172 --> 00:23:00,932
So you can see planes
have blinking lights,
540
00:23:00,931 --> 00:23:02,551
consistent
blinking lights.
541
00:23:02,551 --> 00:23:05,071
So we're not gonna be
mistaking anything for a plane.
542
00:23:05,068 --> 00:23:14,968
♪♪
543
00:23:14,965 --> 00:23:16,335
HEATHER: Was someone shining
a light over there?
544
00:23:16,344 --> 00:23:17,934
-No.
-No.
545
00:23:17,931 --> 00:23:19,381
I just saw...
546
00:23:19,379 --> 00:23:21,139
It almost looked like
a white light appeared,
547
00:23:21,137 --> 00:23:22,717
and then it went away
super quick.
548
00:23:22,724 --> 00:23:24,414
CHUCK: Where?
549
00:23:24,413 --> 00:23:25,793
Are you looking at it
through the night vision?
550
00:23:25,793 --> 00:23:28,863
No, I was looking
with my naked eye.
551
00:23:28,862 --> 00:23:31,172
Did it...Were you guys
shining a light over there?
552
00:23:31,172 --> 00:23:33,622
-No.
-That was weird.
553
00:23:33,620 --> 00:23:36,520
♪♪
554
00:23:36,517 --> 00:23:39,307
ANITA: Hey, guys, come over
here. I see that light source.
555
00:23:39,310 --> 00:23:40,860
Right here, right here, guys.
556
00:23:40,862 --> 00:23:42,172
We're in the middle of a
mountain range right there.
557
00:23:42,172 --> 00:23:44,722
That wasn't in the sky.
558
00:23:44,724 --> 00:23:45,904
Yeah, there.
Right there.
559
00:23:45,896 --> 00:23:47,306
-Okay, yeah.
-There!
560
00:23:47,310 --> 00:23:48,690
DAN: Okay, yep.
I just saw that [bleep] too.
561
00:23:48,689 --> 00:23:49,969
It's exactly what I saw!
562
00:23:49,965 --> 00:23:51,585
Yep.
563
00:23:51,586 --> 00:23:53,446
ANITA: Right...
Oh, it disappeared.
564
00:23:53,448 --> 00:23:55,548
Did you guys get that on film?
565
00:23:55,551 --> 00:23:56,761
-Yeah, I got it.
-It just disappeared.
566
00:23:56,758 --> 00:23:58,378
DAN: That was [bleep]
weird, no.
567
00:23:58,379 --> 00:24:00,549
No, that was weird.
568
00:24:00,551 --> 00:24:01,971
CHUCK:
Where did that light go?
569
00:24:01,965 --> 00:24:03,515
HEATHER: It looked like
570
00:24:03,517 --> 00:24:05,967
a light from over there
was shining,
571
00:24:05,965 --> 00:24:07,335
almost like a car light,
572
00:24:07,344 --> 00:24:09,174
but there's no cars over there.
-Hmm.
573
00:24:09,172 --> 00:24:14,522
♪♪
574
00:24:14,517 --> 00:24:16,827
CHUCK: What's that light?
Oh, that's...
575
00:24:16,827 --> 00:24:18,447
That's a helicopter.
576
00:24:18,448 --> 00:24:20,758
Hey, guys, I've got a helicopter
coming in.
577
00:24:20,758 --> 00:24:23,788
What's a helicopter
doing here now?
578
00:24:23,793 --> 00:24:25,283
ANITA: There's no reason
for a helicopter
579
00:24:25,275 --> 00:24:26,545
to be out at nighttime
580
00:24:26,551 --> 00:24:28,211
unless it's search
and rescue.
581
00:24:28,206 --> 00:24:29,516
And if it were that,
582
00:24:29,517 --> 00:24:30,717
he'd have a light
down on the mountains.
583
00:24:30,724 --> 00:24:32,144
It's moving pretty quick.
584
00:24:32,137 --> 00:24:33,547
That sounds military.
585
00:24:40,448 --> 00:24:42,658
CHUCK: Hey, guys, I've got
a helicopter coming in...
586
00:24:42,655 --> 00:24:44,235
-Who's got...
-To the left.
587
00:24:44,241 --> 00:24:46,281
CHUCK:
It's right behind Dan.
588
00:24:46,275 --> 00:24:48,785
What's a helicopter
doing here now?
589
00:24:48,793 --> 00:24:50,313
ANITA: There's no reason
for a helicopter
590
00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:51,590
to be out at nighttime.
591
00:24:51,586 --> 00:24:53,066
Here, you want to look
at this, Dan?
592
00:24:53,068 --> 00:24:55,238
Maybe you might be able to I.D.
it better than me.
593
00:24:57,310 --> 00:25:00,210
DAN: Hmm.
It's not a Black Hawk.
594
00:25:00,206 --> 00:25:02,236
So it looks like
a military helicopter,
595
00:25:02,241 --> 00:25:04,791
but I don't see
any markings on it.
596
00:25:04,793 --> 00:25:06,523
That's kind of suspicious.
597
00:25:06,517 --> 00:25:09,897
Where he goes...
598
00:25:09,896 --> 00:25:11,966
NARRATOR: While conducting
a night watch
599
00:25:11,965 --> 00:25:13,375
in the Sedona mountains,
600
00:25:13,379 --> 00:25:17,479
the team witnesses
an unidentified light in the sky
601
00:25:17,482 --> 00:25:22,282
followed by the appearance
of a mysterious helicopter.
602
00:25:22,275 --> 00:25:24,515
CHUCK: There's a lot of things
we saw tonight,
603
00:25:24,517 --> 00:25:28,657
and there were a couple of
things that I couldn't identify.
604
00:25:28,655 --> 00:25:31,785
We all three saw something,
that one.
605
00:25:31,793 --> 00:25:33,593
I mean, once again, it was a...
-Yeah, that was weird.
606
00:25:33,586 --> 00:25:35,756
It was a flash of light.
-Right.
607
00:25:35,758 --> 00:25:37,378
But you know what?
608
00:25:37,379 --> 00:25:40,859
What I saw tonight tells me
that this is the right area.
609
00:25:40,862 --> 00:25:42,452
It really is.
610
00:25:42,448 --> 00:25:45,478
We need to do some more research
to find out what houses
611
00:25:45,482 --> 00:25:49,002
are over there, what power
sources are over there,
612
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,760
if you can, in fact,
drive a vehicle up in that area.
613
00:25:51,758 --> 00:25:55,718
I want to get close to the area
where we saw the lights
614
00:25:55,724 --> 00:25:58,454
and get a perspective
from over there.
615
00:25:58,448 --> 00:25:59,618
Yeah.
616
00:25:59,620 --> 00:26:01,720
Get on the ground
and do some groundwork.
617
00:26:01,724 --> 00:26:05,004
We need to figure out
what's back there.
618
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,140
Yeah, absolutely.
619
00:26:06,137 --> 00:26:12,717
♪♪
620
00:26:12,724 --> 00:26:14,974
NARRATOR:
Following an eventful night
621
00:26:14,965 --> 00:26:17,925
of unexplained activity
in the Sedona mountains,
622
00:26:17,931 --> 00:26:19,761
the team meets with a local
623
00:26:19,758 --> 00:26:23,588
whose extensive knowledge on the
history of the Bradshaw Ranch
624
00:26:23,586 --> 00:26:27,376
might prove a connection
to the area's UFO activity.
625
00:26:28,931 --> 00:26:31,381
So what can you tell us
about the Bradshaw Ranch?
626
00:26:31,379 --> 00:26:33,519
Well, I have cowboyed not far
from there
627
00:26:33,517 --> 00:26:35,407
for a couple of years,
to the west of there,
628
00:26:35,413 --> 00:26:37,313
and I'm a professional
guide in the area.
629
00:26:37,310 --> 00:26:38,830
The Bradshaw Ranch
630
00:26:38,827 --> 00:26:42,337
was once privately owned
by Bob Bradshaw,
631
00:26:42,344 --> 00:26:46,214
and he operated out there,
cattle for years.
632
00:26:46,206 --> 00:26:48,586
The Forest Service started
trying to push him off
633
00:26:48,586 --> 00:26:49,516
using environmental law
634
00:26:49,517 --> 00:26:50,547
and trying to get
ahold of that ranch,
635
00:26:50,551 --> 00:26:52,311
and no one really
understood why.
636
00:26:52,310 --> 00:26:54,210
Eventually, the Forest Service
pushed him and pushed him,
637
00:26:54,206 --> 00:26:55,686
and they ended up
selling out,
638
00:26:55,689 --> 00:26:57,449
and now
it's under lock and key.
639
00:26:57,448 --> 00:27:01,238
No one goes out there,
and no one goes in there.
640
00:27:01,241 --> 00:27:03,141
Now mid-to-late '90s,
641
00:27:03,137 --> 00:27:06,137
there was a rash of people
coming in contact
642
00:27:06,137 --> 00:27:08,787
with what would
be described as soldiers.
643
00:27:08,793 --> 00:27:10,763
Private security?
644
00:27:10,758 --> 00:27:12,448
Possibly, yeah.
645
00:27:12,448 --> 00:27:14,068
Why would
the U.S. Forest Service
646
00:27:14,068 --> 00:27:15,408
need that type
of security?
647
00:27:15,413 --> 00:27:17,383
I don't know.
That's a good question.
648
00:27:17,379 --> 00:27:19,279
Have you heard reports
of government vehicles
649
00:27:19,275 --> 00:27:21,445
going in and out
of that area?
650
00:27:21,448 --> 00:27:23,338
There's military
vehicles, tanks,
651
00:27:23,344 --> 00:27:25,724
Bradleys that were
unloaded off a train
652
00:27:25,724 --> 00:27:27,764
that disappeared up into
the wall of Pine Mountain Range.
653
00:27:27,758 --> 00:27:30,968
The gentleman I interviewed
was a prospector in Kingman,
654
00:27:30,965 --> 00:27:32,475
and when he went
to look at the area,
655
00:27:32,482 --> 00:27:34,142
he saw this train
parked with,
656
00:27:34,137 --> 00:27:36,377
like, 90 cars on it,
he said, just full of tanks
657
00:27:36,379 --> 00:27:38,309
and military Hummers
and Bradleys and whatnot.
658
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:40,410
And when he came back
two hours later,
659
00:27:40,413 --> 00:27:43,213
the cars were there,
but all the equipment was gone.
660
00:27:43,206 --> 00:27:44,206
And I followed
the tracks.
661
00:27:44,206 --> 00:27:45,546
It went up a wash,
662
00:27:45,551 --> 00:27:46,931
right up into the wall
of Pine Mountain Range.
663
00:27:46,931 --> 00:27:48,101
There's no history
of them
664
00:27:48,103 --> 00:27:49,383
doing military maneuvers
in that area?
665
00:27:49,379 --> 00:27:50,859
Nope.
And he went home,
666
00:27:50,862 --> 00:27:52,762
and he looked on his map
of where he could prospect,
667
00:27:52,758 --> 00:27:54,168
and that whole area
had been blacked out.
668
00:27:54,172 --> 00:27:55,592
It was now
government property.
669
00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:58,066
90 vehicles is, like,
a brigade combat team.
670
00:27:58,068 --> 00:27:59,448
It was an orchestrated
operation.
671
00:27:59,448 --> 00:28:01,828
So something
is drawing the UFOs
672
00:28:01,827 --> 00:28:04,897
either to this area
or there's a base there.
673
00:28:04,896 --> 00:28:07,586
So there's rumors of tunnels
under the entire area.
674
00:28:07,586 --> 00:28:09,586
Sedona has been known
since the '50s
675
00:28:09,586 --> 00:28:13,136
as being a mecca
for paranormal activity.
676
00:28:13,137 --> 00:28:15,307
Whatever is going on
at the Bradshaw Ranch,
677
00:28:15,310 --> 00:28:18,170
somebody up in the higher
echelons of our government
678
00:28:18,172 --> 00:28:19,762
understands
what's going on here.
679
00:28:19,758 --> 00:28:24,688
♪♪
680
00:28:24,689 --> 00:28:26,689
We've interviewed
a lot of witnesses,
681
00:28:26,689 --> 00:28:30,309
a lot of people who've
seen sightings in this area.
682
00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:32,380
We've heard about
underground bases,
683
00:28:32,379 --> 00:28:35,099
military presence,
vortexes.
684
00:28:35,103 --> 00:28:37,693
We actually saw lights
in the sky.
685
00:28:37,689 --> 00:28:41,209
Everything we've heard,
everything we've seen
686
00:28:41,206 --> 00:28:43,166
is pointing towards
Bear Mountain
687
00:28:43,172 --> 00:28:46,342
where
the Bradshaw Ranch is.
688
00:28:46,344 --> 00:28:49,174
That's where
I want to go.
689
00:28:49,172 --> 00:28:50,522
We know
that there's been
690
00:28:50,517 --> 00:28:51,787
a strong
military presence there.
691
00:28:51,793 --> 00:28:53,173
There's also rumors
692
00:28:53,172 --> 00:28:55,762
that there's an interdimensional
window there
693
00:28:55,758 --> 00:28:57,338
that all this activity
passes through.
694
00:28:57,344 --> 00:28:59,764
So it seems like
a pretty active place.
695
00:28:59,758 --> 00:29:01,098
I wonder what it is
696
00:29:01,103 --> 00:29:03,143
about Bradshaw Ranch
and Bear Mountain
697
00:29:03,137 --> 00:29:04,717
that draws
all this activity.
698
00:29:04,724 --> 00:29:06,454
Like, what is it
about that area?
699
00:29:06,448 --> 00:29:09,308
Well, if Bear Mountain is
the stem of the activity
700
00:29:09,310 --> 00:29:11,170
since it's near
Bradshaw Ranch,
701
00:29:11,172 --> 00:29:14,212
I think I need to get up there
and check out the mountain.
702
00:29:14,206 --> 00:29:17,826
♪♪
703
00:29:17,827 --> 00:29:20,827
It's super slippery right here,
so be careful.
704
00:29:20,827 --> 00:29:22,757
[Bleep]
705
00:29:22,758 --> 00:29:25,618
I'm sorry, guys.
I just saw something over there.
706
00:29:25,620 --> 00:29:27,340
HEATHER: What'd you see?
707
00:29:27,344 --> 00:29:31,594
It looked like a dark shadow
flying through the trees.
708
00:29:36,896 --> 00:29:39,066
♪♪
709
00:29:39,068 --> 00:29:42,378
NARRATOR: After meeting
with multiple UFO witnesses,
710
00:29:42,379 --> 00:29:44,829
the team has learned of
a strong military presence
711
00:29:44,827 --> 00:29:48,617
in Sedona centered
around two locations --
712
00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:52,590
Bear Mountain
and Bradshaw Ranch.
713
00:29:52,586 --> 00:29:54,206
DAN: There's
military-type people
714
00:29:54,206 --> 00:29:55,446
up in
that mountain range.
715
00:29:55,448 --> 00:29:57,168
There's stuff going on
up there.
716
00:29:57,172 --> 00:29:59,172
That's where
we need to to be.
717
00:29:59,172 --> 00:30:00,452
You want to go up
that mountain?
718
00:30:00,448 --> 00:30:02,208
Oh, yeah.
719
00:30:02,206 --> 00:30:04,446
I need to take a couple
of cameramen and do a recon,
720
00:30:04,448 --> 00:30:05,688
try to find
some of these tunnels
721
00:30:05,689 --> 00:30:07,069
that we've been
hearing about,
722
00:30:07,068 --> 00:30:08,968
anything that doesn't
look man-made.
723
00:30:08,965 --> 00:30:10,375
While you're doing that,
724
00:30:10,379 --> 00:30:12,309
there's another witness
that we want to talk to.
725
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:14,100
She's over
by Bradshaw Ranch.
726
00:30:14,103 --> 00:30:16,693
I think we should interview her
and then kind of scout
727
00:30:16,689 --> 00:30:19,139
that whole area out to see
if we can find anything.
728
00:30:19,137 --> 00:30:21,167
That's a good plan.
Let's do it.
729
00:30:21,172 --> 00:30:23,072
Alright.
Let's do it.
730
00:30:23,068 --> 00:30:25,168
NARRATOR:
The Bradshaw Ranch is located
731
00:30:25,172 --> 00:30:28,412
4.2 miles north
of Bear Mountain.
732
00:30:28,413 --> 00:30:33,663
♪♪
733
00:30:33,655 --> 00:30:36,275
There were some claims
about a military base
734
00:30:36,275 --> 00:30:39,305
or some sort of base
inside the mountain,
735
00:30:39,310 --> 00:30:42,930
so I've only got a couple hours
of light left
736
00:30:42,931 --> 00:30:45,831
so get as high up
there as we can.
737
00:30:45,827 --> 00:30:47,377
See if there's any openings.
738
00:30:47,379 --> 00:30:49,449
NARRATOR: In an effort to
explain the strange lights
739
00:30:49,448 --> 00:30:51,448
the team saw in the mountains,
740
00:30:51,448 --> 00:30:55,308
Dan will scale the peak
in search of any structures,
741
00:30:55,310 --> 00:30:57,480
lights or hidden tunnels.
742
00:30:57,482 --> 00:30:59,932
There's one thing
I can already see --
743
00:30:59,931 --> 00:31:01,171
There's no houses up here.
744
00:31:01,172 --> 00:31:03,692
There's no street lights,
no cars.
745
00:31:03,689 --> 00:31:05,139
Think we're making our own path
right now,
746
00:31:05,137 --> 00:31:08,277
so we've got to get moving.
747
00:31:09,413 --> 00:31:11,793
Dan,
what's your status?
748
00:31:11,793 --> 00:31:16,663
We're about 200 yards or so
from the base of the mountain.
749
00:31:16,655 --> 00:31:19,135
Alright.
How far are you going up?
750
00:31:19,137 --> 00:31:20,787
I want to get to the top.
751
00:31:20,793 --> 00:31:21,973
Alright.
Be careful.
752
00:31:21,965 --> 00:31:23,965
Check back
in the next 15.
753
00:31:23,965 --> 00:31:26,335
Copy.
754
00:31:26,344 --> 00:31:27,794
HEATHER: You want to go
down this way?
755
00:31:27,793 --> 00:31:29,243
Yeah, we're about what,
5 minutes out?
756
00:31:29,241 --> 00:31:30,831
Yeah,
we're pretty close.
757
00:31:30,827 --> 00:31:36,477
♪♪
758
00:31:36,482 --> 00:31:38,862
It's super slippery around here,
so be careful.
759
00:31:38,862 --> 00:31:42,032
♪♪
760
00:31:42,034 --> 00:31:43,454
[Bleep]
761
00:31:43,448 --> 00:31:47,618
Almost hand in cactus.
762
00:31:47,620 --> 00:31:54,070
♪♪
763
00:31:54,068 --> 00:31:55,968
This might be
a stopping point for us.
764
00:31:55,965 --> 00:31:59,715
♪♪
765
00:31:59,724 --> 00:32:02,104
Dad, this is Dan.
766
00:32:02,103 --> 00:32:03,863
Hey, what's up, Dan?
767
00:32:03,862 --> 00:32:05,312
I'm at a stopping point here.
768
00:32:05,310 --> 00:32:08,520
I'm about, I don't know,
769
00:32:08,517 --> 00:32:10,657
15 feet from the top,
but I can't get to it.
770
00:32:10,655 --> 00:32:12,275
There's just cliffs.
771
00:32:12,275 --> 00:32:14,475
Do you see anything
unusual up there?
772
00:32:14,482 --> 00:32:18,002
Yeah, so we've got a couple
of little cave things up here.
773
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,480
I mean, they could be something.
774
00:32:20,482 --> 00:32:22,142
A cave?
775
00:32:22,137 --> 00:32:24,137
Can you get to it?
776
00:32:24,137 --> 00:32:25,337
Nah, I can't get it
from here.
777
00:32:25,344 --> 00:32:26,664
It's too far away.
778
00:32:26,655 --> 00:32:28,715
It's on the ridge
right across from me,
779
00:32:28,724 --> 00:32:30,524
but I can't get to it.
780
00:32:30,517 --> 00:32:33,067
Alright.
Copy that.
781
00:32:33,068 --> 00:32:34,858
There's nothing man-made
up here.
782
00:32:34,862 --> 00:32:37,932
There's no houses,
no electricity, no lights.
783
00:32:37,931 --> 00:32:39,621
There are some caves, though.
784
00:32:39,620 --> 00:32:41,280
I think we have a mystery
on our hands.
785
00:32:41,275 --> 00:32:43,095
I can't explain
what we saw last night.
786
00:32:43,103 --> 00:32:46,723
♪♪
787
00:32:46,724 --> 00:32:48,034
CHUCK: Hey, Dan.
788
00:32:48,034 --> 00:32:49,694
If things get interesting
at the Bradshaw Ranch,
789
00:32:49,689 --> 00:32:51,239
we may be a little late,
790
00:32:51,241 --> 00:32:54,211
so let's just meet back
at the truck.
791
00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:57,026
Copy.
We did our recon up here.
792
00:32:57,034 --> 00:32:58,524
We're heading down now.
793
00:32:58,517 --> 00:33:00,027
Copy that.
794
00:33:00,034 --> 00:33:03,764
♪♪
795
00:33:03,758 --> 00:33:06,378
NARRATOR: Chuck and Heather
meet with another Sedona local
796
00:33:06,379 --> 00:33:11,479
who is very familiar with
the mysterious Bradshaw Ranch.
797
00:33:11,482 --> 00:33:13,762
LINA: Northern Arizona
University leased the land.
798
00:33:13,758 --> 00:33:16,378
Oh, it's interesting that
there's security cameras...
799
00:33:16,379 --> 00:33:17,619
Oh, yeah.
...up there.
800
00:33:17,620 --> 00:33:19,070
I can see them.
Yep.
801
00:33:19,068 --> 00:33:22,138
That's probably to keep
everybody off the property.
802
00:33:23,379 --> 00:33:26,449
And the speculation that
this whole idea
803
00:33:26,448 --> 00:33:28,308
of the university
being here
804
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:31,030
is another cover-up for what
may actually be happening
805
00:33:31,034 --> 00:33:35,694
or still investigating
by the government or other.
806
00:33:35,689 --> 00:33:39,239
In 2003, the Bradshaw Ranch
was purchased
807
00:33:39,241 --> 00:33:42,521
by the government
from Bob Bradshaw.
808
00:33:42,517 --> 00:33:45,477
It became famous for its
unexplained phenomena
809
00:33:45,482 --> 00:33:48,622
and recurring UFO sightings,
810
00:33:48,620 --> 00:33:52,170
and now it's rumored to be
under government surveillance.
811
00:33:53,413 --> 00:33:55,343
Have you talked to anybody
from the university
812
00:33:55,344 --> 00:33:57,214
that's actually
been here?
813
00:33:57,206 --> 00:33:58,686
No, I have not.
814
00:33:58,689 --> 00:34:02,069
I'm just wondering
if that's a cover-up
815
00:34:02,068 --> 00:34:03,448
or there
actually is people
816
00:34:03,448 --> 00:34:05,378
from the university
working that area.
817
00:34:05,379 --> 00:34:07,619
Well, based on
what you see out here,
818
00:34:07,620 --> 00:34:09,100
something is happening,
819
00:34:09,103 --> 00:34:12,343
but we don't know for certain
that people are here 24-7.
820
00:34:12,344 --> 00:34:13,864
There have been
any odd occurrences
821
00:34:13,862 --> 00:34:15,522
that you've heard of?Yes.
822
00:34:15,517 --> 00:34:17,927
When I first moved to Sedona,
the first story that I heard
823
00:34:17,931 --> 00:34:22,451
about Bradshaw was of
a Forestry Service ranger.
824
00:34:22,448 --> 00:34:24,858
He knows this land
inside--
825
00:34:24,862 --> 00:34:26,692
He knew it
inside out.
826
00:34:26,689 --> 00:34:29,099
There's no reason for him
to disappear,
827
00:34:29,103 --> 00:34:30,793
but that's, in fact,
what happened.
828
00:34:30,793 --> 00:34:33,143
He came out here, probably
to check on something,
829
00:34:33,137 --> 00:34:36,657
and never returned.
830
00:34:36,655 --> 00:34:38,335
And they never found him.They never found him.
831
00:34:38,344 --> 00:34:39,904
What about
military presence?
832
00:34:39,896 --> 00:34:42,476
Have people seen any type
of military presence here?
833
00:34:42,482 --> 00:34:43,592
Yes.
834
00:34:43,586 --> 00:34:44,896
When I was with my boyfriend
at the time,
835
00:34:44,896 --> 00:34:46,206
we just did
a roundabout thing,
836
00:34:46,206 --> 00:34:47,656
and we didn't even go
through the front.
837
00:34:47,655 --> 00:34:50,825
We went through the back
and got on to the property,
838
00:34:50,827 --> 00:34:53,787
and we were accosted
by, like, three or four,
839
00:34:53,793 --> 00:34:57,553
I can't remember exactly,
military...
840
00:34:57,551 --> 00:34:59,451
I don't really know for sure
if they were military
841
00:34:59,448 --> 00:35:01,688
because they actually
had white on.
842
00:35:01,689 --> 00:35:03,549
White?
Yeah.
843
00:35:03,551 --> 00:35:05,721
Did they order you off,
or did they tell you to go?
844
00:35:05,724 --> 00:35:08,284
They asked us what we were
doing there, basically,
845
00:35:08,275 --> 00:35:09,685
and, you know, hiking.
846
00:35:09,689 --> 00:35:10,899
And they told us,
847
00:35:10,896 --> 00:35:12,856
"No, you need to turn around
and head back."
848
00:35:12,862 --> 00:35:14,762
They didn't say why?Nope, wouldn't tell us.
849
00:35:14,758 --> 00:35:16,098
No reason at all.
You didn't ask?
850
00:35:16,103 --> 00:35:17,243
No, they had the big...
851
00:35:17,241 --> 00:35:18,931
ARs?
Like an AR-15 or...?
852
00:35:18,931 --> 00:35:20,311
I'm not familiar
with the names of them,
853
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:22,660
but I know that
it was just big gun.
854
00:35:22,655 --> 00:35:24,475
I mean, why would they be
out here with guns?
855
00:35:24,482 --> 00:35:25,902
I know.
856
00:35:25,896 --> 00:35:27,206
I couldn't tell you.
857
00:35:27,206 --> 00:35:30,136
What puzzles me is,
why here?
858
00:35:30,137 --> 00:35:31,407
Why this ranch?
859
00:35:31,413 --> 00:35:33,213
Why the security cameras?
860
00:35:33,206 --> 00:35:35,066
Why is this closed off?
861
00:35:35,068 --> 00:35:36,378
You're amongst a lot of us
862
00:35:36,379 --> 00:35:38,379
that would like to have
that answer.
863
00:35:38,379 --> 00:35:40,759
So who are they monitoring
by the camera?
864
00:35:40,758 --> 00:35:44,308
Us or something
inside the ranch?
865
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:45,690
I think it's both.
866
00:35:47,482 --> 00:35:48,622
LINA: What was that?
The windmill?
867
00:35:48,620 --> 00:35:51,140
But the windmill
is over here.
868
00:35:51,137 --> 00:35:52,997
I thought the windmill
was over there.
869
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,830
Sounds like a fence
being opened or something.
870
00:35:54,827 --> 00:35:58,167
It sure sounded like
something metallic moving.
871
00:35:58,172 --> 00:36:00,792
♪♪
872
00:36:00,793 --> 00:36:03,623
I'm sorry, guys.
I just saw something over there.
873
00:36:03,620 --> 00:36:05,240
What'd you see?
874
00:36:05,241 --> 00:36:08,071
It looked like
a dark shadow
875
00:36:08,068 --> 00:36:10,718
flying through the trees
and then down.
876
00:36:17,931 --> 00:36:20,721
♪♪
877
00:36:20,724 --> 00:36:22,214
LINA: What was that?
878
00:36:22,206 --> 00:36:24,996
I'm sorry, guys.
I just saw something over there.
879
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,410
HEATHER: What'd you see?
880
00:36:26,413 --> 00:36:29,243
It looked like
a dark shadow
881
00:36:29,241 --> 00:36:32,761
flying through the trees
and then down.
882
00:36:32,758 --> 00:36:34,378
And you saw it just
right through there?
883
00:36:34,379 --> 00:36:36,969
Just right between these
two trees in the back
884
00:36:36,965 --> 00:36:39,585
towards the mountain
with the snow on it.
885
00:36:39,586 --> 00:36:42,166
♪♪
886
00:36:42,172 --> 00:36:44,172
Oh, my gosh.
887
00:36:44,172 --> 00:36:46,072
Lina, where is
the entrance to the ranch?
888
00:36:46,068 --> 00:36:47,208
Like, is there a gate
or something?
889
00:36:47,206 --> 00:36:48,476
Yes, it's actually
890
00:36:48,482 --> 00:36:50,862
just to the right
of where we came in.
891
00:36:50,862 --> 00:36:52,662
I want to go see where
that sound came from.
892
00:36:52,655 --> 00:36:54,095
I'm really curious.
893
00:36:54,103 --> 00:37:03,523
♪♪
894
00:37:03,517 --> 00:37:05,827
Can we get through this way?
895
00:37:05,827 --> 00:37:07,477
Oh, there's a fence.
896
00:37:07,482 --> 00:37:13,242
♪♪
897
00:37:13,241 --> 00:37:15,241
I just want to rattle
this real quick
898
00:37:15,241 --> 00:37:20,141
and see if that could've
been the sound.
899
00:37:20,137 --> 00:37:21,897
I don't know.
900
00:37:21,896 --> 00:37:25,476
I can't re-create that sound,
and I want to know what it was.
901
00:37:25,482 --> 00:37:27,552
I want to know
what that sound was.
902
00:37:27,551 --> 00:37:29,691
It could've been something
inside, too.
903
00:37:29,689 --> 00:37:33,029
♪♪
904
00:37:33,034 --> 00:37:34,624
That's weird.
905
00:37:34,620 --> 00:37:37,860
It looks like there's
a camera facing the ground.
906
00:37:37,862 --> 00:37:39,592
I don't understand why
they would have a camera
907
00:37:39,586 --> 00:37:41,166
facing the ground.
908
00:37:43,379 --> 00:37:45,379
That's kind of weird.
909
00:37:45,379 --> 00:37:48,309
Let me see what's this way.
910
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:51,450
Oh, yeah,
there's another fence.
911
00:37:51,448 --> 00:37:52,928
I don't see any cameras here.
912
00:37:52,931 --> 00:37:56,551
I see a sign that says,
"Closed to public use."
913
00:37:56,551 --> 00:37:57,971
This gate is locked,
914
00:37:57,965 --> 00:38:00,785
but I think this could be where
the sound is coming from.
915
00:38:00,793 --> 00:38:04,623
♪♪
916
00:38:04,620 --> 00:38:07,690
I really think that sound was
someone going through this gate,
917
00:38:07,689 --> 00:38:09,929
but we didn't see
anybody pass by here.
918
00:38:09,931 --> 00:38:13,521
It's like somebody opened
the gate and just disappeared.
919
00:38:13,517 --> 00:38:14,827
Yeah, it's really...
920
00:38:14,827 --> 00:38:16,377
It's really odd because
no one else is down here.
921
00:38:16,379 --> 00:38:19,029
Our whole crew was up there.
922
00:38:19,034 --> 00:38:22,524
♪♪
923
00:38:22,517 --> 00:38:24,207
We're back.
924
00:38:24,206 --> 00:38:26,516
Were you able to find out
what made the noise?
925
00:38:26,517 --> 00:38:29,547
I found the one fence here,
so I rattled it a little bit.
926
00:38:29,551 --> 00:38:32,241
I think the sound we heard
was someone opening the gate,
927
00:38:32,241 --> 00:38:34,861
and that's the entrance
into the ranch.
928
00:38:34,862 --> 00:38:40,072
I noticed they had a camera
pointing to the ground.
929
00:38:40,068 --> 00:38:42,338
CHUCK: It really feels like
whatever is going on out here,
930
00:38:42,344 --> 00:38:44,524
the government wants
to keep it as a secret.
931
00:38:44,517 --> 00:38:45,997
One thing I can't understand
is why that camera
932
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,550
is facing the ground.
933
00:38:47,551 --> 00:38:49,831
Why aren't they facing, like,
the entrance, you know,
934
00:38:49,827 --> 00:38:51,277
to look for violators?
935
00:38:51,275 --> 00:38:53,235
No, they're pointed
in another direction.
936
00:38:53,241 --> 00:38:54,791
Doesn't makes sense.
937
00:38:57,551 --> 00:39:01,071
HEATHER: Do you guys see that
light above the mountain there?
938
00:39:01,068 --> 00:39:04,998
That could be...a star
that just popped up.
939
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,240
Pretty bright.
940
00:39:06,241 --> 00:39:08,721
LINA: Yeah, it is.
941
00:39:08,724 --> 00:39:10,074
Wait, did you see...
Wait, the light is gone.
942
00:39:10,068 --> 00:39:11,408
Yeah, that light is gone.
943
00:39:11,413 --> 00:39:12,833
Holy [bleep]
944
00:39:12,827 --> 00:39:14,447
Where'd it go?
945
00:39:14,448 --> 00:39:16,758
It's gone.
I was watching it.
946
00:39:16,758 --> 00:39:18,548
I looked down for one second,
and I looked back up,
947
00:39:18,551 --> 00:39:19,931
and it was gone.
948
00:39:19,931 --> 00:39:21,411
Oh, my gosh.
949
00:39:21,413 --> 00:39:23,033
They know we're here.
950
00:39:23,034 --> 00:39:30,144
♪♪
951
00:39:30,137 --> 00:39:32,407
That was some good activity
to end the night.
952
00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:33,933
I want to know
what that light was.
953
00:39:33,931 --> 00:39:36,971
That's a good question.
954
00:39:36,965 --> 00:39:39,235
NARRATOR: After a night
of unexplained noises
955
00:39:39,241 --> 00:39:41,031
and strange lights
in the sky
956
00:39:41,034 --> 00:39:45,344
over Bradshaw Ranch, Chuck and
Heather rendezvous with Dan.
957
00:39:45,344 --> 00:39:47,794
CHUCK: What did you see up
in the mountain?
958
00:39:47,793 --> 00:39:49,103
DAN: Found some caves.
959
00:39:49,103 --> 00:39:51,343
I saw one big opening
that was probably
960
00:39:51,344 --> 00:39:52,904
about 2 or 3 miles away
from where I was.
961
00:39:52,896 --> 00:39:54,096
I couldn't get to it.
962
00:39:54,103 --> 00:39:55,413
It looked pretty big.
963
00:39:55,413 --> 00:39:58,663
It looked like you can fly
an airplane into it.
964
00:39:58,655 --> 00:40:00,335
Did you see anything
that could've explained --
965
00:40:00,344 --> 00:40:02,004
You know,
we did that sky watch,
966
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,340
and we saw that light right
over where you went up today.
967
00:40:04,344 --> 00:40:05,904
Yeah,
there was no lights.
968
00:40:05,896 --> 00:40:07,066
There was no houses.
969
00:40:07,068 --> 00:40:08,828
There was no electricity
anywhere
970
00:40:08,827 --> 00:40:11,657
running into that whole area,
so those lights that we saw,
971
00:40:11,655 --> 00:40:14,445
I don't know
where they came from.
972
00:40:14,448 --> 00:40:16,278
Well, at the ranch, we saw
something we couldn't explain.
973
00:40:16,275 --> 00:40:17,965
We saw a light.
974
00:40:17,965 --> 00:40:19,375
It lingered there so bright,
975
00:40:19,379 --> 00:40:21,279
brighter than anything,
and it just disappeared.
976
00:40:21,275 --> 00:40:22,615
What do you mean
disappeared?
977
00:40:22,620 --> 00:40:24,720
It disappeared.It just went out.
978
00:40:24,724 --> 00:40:26,864
Alright.
Look at this.
979
00:40:26,862 --> 00:40:29,932
See it move?
980
00:40:29,931 --> 00:40:31,341
It's gone.
-Oh, my God.
981
00:40:31,344 --> 00:40:33,344
-When was that?
-It just disappeared.
982
00:40:33,344 --> 00:40:35,934
That is what we call
a UFO there, guys.
983
00:40:35,931 --> 00:40:37,451
This type of activity
984
00:40:37,448 --> 00:40:40,278
is exactly what people
have been seeing
985
00:40:40,275 --> 00:40:43,755
at the Bradshaw Ranch.
986
00:40:43,758 --> 00:40:46,278
The Native Americans
have been talking
987
00:40:46,275 --> 00:40:49,785
about this type of phenomena
for centuries,
988
00:40:49,793 --> 00:40:51,483
so it's nothing new.
989
00:40:51,482 --> 00:40:53,932
We just happen to be at the
right place at the right time
990
00:40:53,931 --> 00:40:56,551
and captured it on film.
991
00:40:56,551 --> 00:40:58,791
Do you guys think that
this light is somehow related
992
00:40:58,793 --> 00:41:00,413
to the vortexes in the area?
993
00:41:00,413 --> 00:41:03,793
There are a lot of UFO sightings
in this area,
994
00:41:03,793 --> 00:41:06,283
and I think vortexes
are a big part of it.
995
00:41:06,275 --> 00:41:08,235
They're using the vortexes
for something.
996
00:41:08,241 --> 00:41:10,031
To me, this is why there's all
the military presence
997
00:41:10,034 --> 00:41:11,974
in the area,
stuff like this.
998
00:41:11,965 --> 00:41:13,275
It could be.
999
00:41:13,275 --> 00:41:14,655
I mean, we talked to a lot
of witnesses
1000
00:41:14,655 --> 00:41:17,445
that have seen
strange vehicles,
1001
00:41:17,448 --> 00:41:21,068
strange planes
being around this area,
1002
00:41:21,068 --> 00:41:22,828
like, as if
they're watching over it.
1003
00:41:22,827 --> 00:41:24,337
I think this is one
of the things
1004
00:41:24,344 --> 00:41:27,174
that does trigger
military presence in the area.
1005
00:41:27,172 --> 00:41:28,792
I mean, I believe that,
you know,
1006
00:41:28,793 --> 00:41:31,383
if the military is there,
they're monitoring it.
1007
00:41:31,379 --> 00:41:34,029
This is stuff that's been
going on for a long time.
1008
00:41:34,034 --> 00:41:36,144
It's consistent,
1009
00:41:36,137 --> 00:41:38,407
and we captured
part of it on camera.
1010
00:41:38,413 --> 00:41:39,833
Good job, guys.
1011
00:41:39,827 --> 00:41:41,407
Yeah, there was a lot of stuff
on this one.We did really good.
1012
00:41:41,413 --> 00:41:42,933
This was a really
good investigation,
1013
00:41:42,931 --> 00:41:45,411
and I believe this is one
1014
00:41:45,413 --> 00:41:46,793
we're gonna have to
come back to.
1015
00:41:46,793 --> 00:41:48,793
Yeah.
1016
00:41:48,793 --> 00:41:52,453
NARRATOR: Does the amount
of UFO activity in Sedona
1017
00:41:52,448 --> 00:41:55,338
indicate that the city
might be a gateway
1018
00:41:55,344 --> 00:41:58,104
for interdimensional
alien craft?
1019
00:41:58,103 --> 00:42:00,933
And if so, will there
come a time
1020
00:42:00,931 --> 00:42:02,551
when Earth becomes more
1021
00:42:02,551 --> 00:42:06,141
than just an intergalactic truck
stop on their travels
1022
00:42:06,137 --> 00:42:10,137
and instead,
a final destination?
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