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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,839 --> 00:00:13,297 We all have some heroes, some people that we enjoy. 2 00:00:13,381 --> 00:00:15,214 Some people have great character. 3 00:00:15,297 --> 00:00:17,547 Some people have great compassion. 4 00:00:17,631 --> 00:00:19,839 Some people have great charisma. 5 00:00:19,923 --> 00:00:21,506 Some people... 6 00:00:21,589 --> 00:00:25,089 They have a quality where they're just deeply soulful. 7 00:00:27,422 --> 00:00:32,255 Imagine if there were those traits that you might want for yourself. 8 00:00:34,339 --> 00:00:36,756 ESP NXIVM 9 00:00:36,839 --> 00:00:39,422 is a methodology 10 00:00:39,506 --> 00:00:43,422 that allows people to optimize 11 00:00:43,506 --> 00:00:47,673 their experience and behavior. 12 00:00:54,130 --> 00:00:56,798 # No love can be # 13 00:00:57,839 --> 00:01:00,422 # Safe with me # 14 00:01:01,589 --> 00:01:04,130 # No love can be # 15 00:01:05,547 --> 00:01:07,923 # Safe with me # 16 00:01:09,130 --> 00:01:11,798 # No love can be # 17 00:01:13,172 --> 00:01:15,798 # Safe with me # 18 00:01:16,798 --> 00:01:19,631 # No love can be # 19 00:01:20,714 --> 00:01:23,339 # Safe with me # 20 00:01:43,255 --> 00:01:45,631 All right. So this is, to some degree, 21 00:01:45,714 --> 00:01:47,923 somewhat of a test. 22 00:01:48,005 --> 00:01:50,089 I originally wanted to record this 23 00:01:50,172 --> 00:01:53,839 because I had a very strong suspicion that I would be attacked 24 00:01:53,923 --> 00:01:56,047 when I left the organization. 25 00:01:56,130 --> 00:01:58,172 Attacked could be legally, 26 00:01:58,255 --> 00:02:00,339 it could be private investigators, 27 00:02:00,422 --> 00:02:02,089 it could be bugging, 28 00:02:02,172 --> 00:02:05,923 it could be, you know, uh, destroying my name. 29 00:02:06,005 --> 00:02:10,381 It could be a series of things, and I wanted it to be understood that... 30 00:02:11,547 --> 00:02:13,589 It was... It's never been my intention 31 00:02:13,673 --> 00:02:16,464 to try and destroy this organization. 32 00:02:16,547 --> 00:02:18,714 And some of you that are still in may think that. 33 00:02:18,798 --> 00:02:20,798 It's more, uh, uh... 34 00:02:20,881 --> 00:02:24,798 It's more that I saw what was really going on. 35 00:02:24,881 --> 00:02:26,255 And what was really going on 36 00:02:26,339 --> 00:02:28,589 basically just fucked with my head. 37 00:02:30,714 --> 00:02:33,255 But we never thought it would lead to this. 38 00:02:49,464 --> 00:02:51,756 Okay. 39 00:02:51,839 --> 00:02:54,297 58-year-old Keith Raniere, 40 00:02:54,381 --> 00:02:58,839 the former leader of the upstate New York sex cult NXIVM 41 00:02:58,923 --> 00:03:00,673 was found guilty on all counts. 42 00:03:00,756 --> 00:03:03,714 Guilty of racketeering, guilty of conspiracy, 43 00:03:03,798 --> 00:03:05,756 wire fraud, and sex trafficking. 44 00:03:05,839 --> 00:03:07,631 The first question a lot of people have 45 00:03:07,714 --> 00:03:10,673 when they hear about what he allegedly did to dozens of women 46 00:03:10,756 --> 00:03:14,047 is why didn't these women see what was happening to them? 47 00:03:19,798 --> 00:03:21,839 Mark Vicente! 48 00:03:24,422 --> 00:03:26,130 - Let's start again. - Yeah. 49 00:03:30,756 --> 00:03:32,047 It's not working. Hold on. 50 00:03:32,130 --> 00:03:34,714 - # Everybody's talkin' 'bout... # - No, no, back! 51 00:03:34,798 --> 00:03:37,089 You could do it. You could do it. 52 00:03:37,172 --> 00:03:40,464 I was 27, just turning 28, when I met Mark. 53 00:03:40,547 --> 00:03:42,464 I was living in Vancouver. 54 00:03:45,714 --> 00:03:48,714 This is around the time when I was into setting intentions. 55 00:03:48,798 --> 00:03:51,547 My boyfriend at the time was a filmmaker. 56 00:03:51,631 --> 00:03:53,255 He had made a film that got accepted into 57 00:03:53,339 --> 00:03:56,130 the Spiritual Cinema Circle Festival-at-Sea, 58 00:03:56,214 --> 00:03:57,506 on a cruise. 59 00:03:57,589 --> 00:03:59,964 So I set the intention that I was gonna go on this cruise 60 00:04:00,047 --> 00:04:01,964 and figure out my purpose in life. 61 00:04:02,047 --> 00:04:04,005 My real purpose. 62 00:04:04,089 --> 00:04:06,214 'Cause I was challenged in my relationship, 63 00:04:06,297 --> 00:04:07,923 challenged in my career. 64 00:04:08,005 --> 00:04:10,464 I had this idea that maybe I'd become a famous actor 65 00:04:10,547 --> 00:04:12,839 and use my celebrity to have a voice, 66 00:04:12,923 --> 00:04:14,839 or have impact in the world. 67 00:04:14,923 --> 00:04:16,673 It... That wasn't happening. 68 00:04:17,506 --> 00:04:19,297 Oh, yes. Yes. 69 00:04:19,381 --> 00:04:21,130 That was like beer commercials. 70 00:04:21,214 --> 00:04:22,756 TV shows about vampires. 71 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,589 Blood on my taffeta, Carl. Blood! 72 00:04:25,673 --> 00:04:27,297 Well, you were going to the prom with my best friend. 73 00:04:27,381 --> 00:04:30,506 It's like it wasn't the, 74 00:04:30,589 --> 00:04:32,506 the life that I had imagined. 75 00:04:32,589 --> 00:04:35,714 And then we got on the cruise, and the guest of honor, 76 00:04:35,798 --> 00:04:38,172 and the judge of all the films was gonna be Mark Vicente, 77 00:04:38,255 --> 00:04:40,673 the director of the film "What the Bleep Do We Know!?" 78 00:04:42,673 --> 00:04:44,881 Where do we come from? 79 00:04:44,964 --> 00:04:46,297 What should we do? 80 00:04:46,381 --> 00:04:48,714 And where are we going? 81 00:04:48,798 --> 00:04:50,255 The more you look at quantum physics, 82 00:04:50,339 --> 00:04:52,756 the more mysterious and wondrous it becomes. 83 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,589 There was something really magnificent about science 84 00:04:55,673 --> 00:04:57,798 that I found intoxicating, because 85 00:04:57,881 --> 00:05:00,964 if we understood the world in a better way, 86 00:05:01,047 --> 00:05:03,464 and, and if we understood ourselves in a better way, 87 00:05:03,547 --> 00:05:05,798 we may be able to understand how all of this works. 88 00:05:05,881 --> 00:05:07,756 I mean, "What the Bleep" was one of 89 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,172 the highest-grossing documentaries of all time. 90 00:05:10,255 --> 00:05:12,964 And then that night, I sat across from Mark Vicente. 91 00:05:13,047 --> 00:05:14,964 At first, I didn't know Mark was Mark, 92 00:05:15,047 --> 00:05:17,214 but when I figured out he was the director of "What the Bleep," 93 00:05:17,297 --> 00:05:19,631 I was gushing about his film, 94 00:05:19,714 --> 00:05:21,839 and at that time, I was really sick. 95 00:05:21,923 --> 00:05:23,464 I had a really bad cough. 96 00:05:23,547 --> 00:05:25,798 Like, a really bad, loud cough. 97 00:05:25,881 --> 00:05:28,339 And Mark asked me something like, 98 00:05:28,422 --> 00:05:30,130 "What would you lose..." 99 00:05:30,214 --> 00:05:32,130 This is an ESP-framed question... 100 00:05:32,214 --> 00:05:34,673 "What do you lose if you stop coughing?" 101 00:05:34,756 --> 00:05:38,464 And I had the awareness instantly that I had linked 102 00:05:38,547 --> 00:05:40,964 sickness and attention. 103 00:05:41,047 --> 00:05:44,839 I was trying to get my boyfriend's attention. 104 00:05:44,923 --> 00:05:46,464 I was like, "Oh, my gosh. 105 00:05:46,547 --> 00:05:51,547 My whole life, I've been so sick as a means for attention." 106 00:05:51,631 --> 00:05:54,422 Then, you know, the next day I got better right away, 107 00:05:54,506 --> 00:05:56,631 and all I knew at that point 108 00:05:56,714 --> 00:05:58,673 was that I really liked and respected Mark. 109 00:05:58,756 --> 00:06:02,631 And Mark very casually talked about NXIVM, 110 00:06:02,714 --> 00:06:04,005 and, you know, there's this guy, 111 00:06:04,089 --> 00:06:06,214 he's the smartest man in the world, and... 112 00:06:06,297 --> 00:06:09,839 He's doing this and that, and there's this community, and, you know, 113 00:06:09,923 --> 00:06:11,589 he, he was... He underplayed it. 114 00:06:11,673 --> 00:06:14,547 If anything, I was more interested in working with him, 115 00:06:14,631 --> 00:06:16,881 and doing whatever he was doing. 116 00:06:16,964 --> 00:06:21,339 Keep in mind, I'd just put it out there to the universe, 117 00:06:21,422 --> 00:06:24,130 "What's my purpose?" 118 00:06:24,214 --> 00:06:26,130 Oh, maybe this is my purpose. 119 00:06:29,297 --> 00:06:33,005 All right, guys. Let's settle in. 120 00:06:38,381 --> 00:06:39,923 Is it rolling? 121 00:06:41,923 --> 00:06:43,714 There was always a preamble 122 00:06:43,798 --> 00:06:45,881 that I would always do. 123 00:06:45,964 --> 00:06:48,381 I'm gonna talk about an extraordinary company, 124 00:06:48,464 --> 00:06:50,881 that I began working with a number of years ago 125 00:06:50,964 --> 00:06:54,214 that helped me overcome a great many difficulties 126 00:06:54,297 --> 00:06:58,923 and achieve an even greater level of success than I already had. 127 00:06:59,005 --> 00:07:02,964 And everybody can do with tools that helps them do better, right? 128 00:07:06,881 --> 00:07:10,130 So understand, NXIVM, N-X-I-V-M, 129 00:07:10,214 --> 00:07:13,506 is the umbrella company. 130 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:16,756 ESP was the thing that I got involved in. 131 00:07:16,839 --> 00:07:21,130 ESP stands for Executive Success Programs. 132 00:07:21,214 --> 00:07:25,172 Executive Success Programs, ESP, NXIVM... 133 00:07:25,255 --> 00:07:28,047 is a methodology 134 00:07:28,130 --> 00:07:30,589 for optimizing or enhancing 135 00:07:30,673 --> 00:07:32,756 human experience and behavior. 136 00:07:32,839 --> 00:07:36,547 Executive Success Programs is a human potential program. 137 00:07:36,631 --> 00:07:38,923 We called it Executive Success Programs 138 00:07:39,005 --> 00:07:42,130 not because it's only geared for executives in business, 139 00:07:42,214 --> 00:07:44,756 although it's very good for executives in business. 140 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:48,089 What we want to do is we want to be successful 141 00:07:48,172 --> 00:07:50,381 by executing, by following through, 142 00:07:50,464 --> 00:07:52,631 by being proactive in our lives. 143 00:07:52,714 --> 00:07:55,381 That's what ESP is. 144 00:07:57,047 --> 00:07:59,631 At that time, I was living in a basement suite 145 00:07:59,714 --> 00:08:01,297 where my rent was $400 a month. 146 00:08:01,381 --> 00:08:03,130 So for me to spend thousands of dollars 147 00:08:03,214 --> 00:08:05,631 on my personal growth was obscene. 148 00:08:05,714 --> 00:08:07,089 But I really wanted to change. 149 00:08:07,172 --> 00:08:09,339 And I really wanted to make that... that leap, 150 00:08:09,422 --> 00:08:12,297 so I put it on my credit card and signed up for the next training. 151 00:08:18,005 --> 00:08:20,297 My first five-day, 152 00:08:20,381 --> 00:08:23,798 I was picturing a large, 153 00:08:23,881 --> 00:08:26,130 stadium-type of Tony Robbins forum 154 00:08:26,214 --> 00:08:29,214 with hundreds of people... Rah, rah, rah. 155 00:08:29,297 --> 00:08:34,673 I walk into a, a run-down Holiday Inn. 156 00:08:34,756 --> 00:08:36,589 You guys hearing okay? 157 00:08:37,923 --> 00:08:39,464 Nod if you can hear me. 158 00:08:39,547 --> 00:08:41,172 It's just totally underwhelming. 159 00:08:41,255 --> 00:08:43,089 Everyone's power suits are weird. 160 00:08:43,172 --> 00:08:47,005 And Nancy's first intro video, where she's like, "Hi." 161 00:08:47,089 --> 00:08:49,172 Hello. I'm Nancy Salzman. 162 00:08:49,255 --> 00:08:51,589 Welcome to your first origins class. 163 00:08:51,673 --> 00:08:54,005 Meanwhile, I'm like, staring at her eyebrows. 164 00:08:54,089 --> 00:08:56,464 Did you ever see the carnival game Whack-a-Mole? 165 00:08:56,547 --> 00:08:59,047 There's this little mole, and he pops up, 166 00:08:59,130 --> 00:09:01,756 and he has this, like, little grassy hat on. 167 00:09:01,839 --> 00:09:04,464 Just the whole, like, the whole aesthetic 168 00:09:04,547 --> 00:09:08,547 and the presentation of the material was totally '80s. 169 00:09:08,631 --> 00:09:11,714 So you take the sledgehammer and you knock down this mole, 170 00:09:11,798 --> 00:09:13,714 and you knock down this one, and you knock one down 171 00:09:13,798 --> 00:09:16,881 and another one pops up, and another one pops up, and... and... 172 00:09:16,964 --> 00:09:18,881 Does this sound like your life? 173 00:09:18,964 --> 00:09:21,881 I was like, "What? Where am I?" 174 00:09:21,964 --> 00:09:23,714 And I was sort of like, 175 00:09:23,798 --> 00:09:27,005 you know, "My parents are therapists. What are you gonna teach me?" 176 00:09:41,464 --> 00:09:43,130 All right. So here's rules and rituals. 177 00:09:43,214 --> 00:09:44,881 This is the first class we do. 178 00:09:44,964 --> 00:09:46,381 And they said right from the beginning 179 00:09:46,464 --> 00:09:48,673 that we were gonna be uncomfortable. 180 00:09:48,756 --> 00:09:51,464 That the most growth happens outside your comfort zone. 181 00:10:06,130 --> 00:10:07,506 - Give me your hand. Shake my hand. - Okay. 182 00:10:07,589 --> 00:10:09,255 So, we learn how to shake hands. 183 00:10:09,339 --> 00:10:10,714 We shake like this. 184 00:10:10,798 --> 00:10:12,714 You know, it was just weird. 185 00:10:23,339 --> 00:10:25,881 I didn't like calling Nancy "Prefect" 186 00:10:25,964 --> 00:10:27,673 and Keith "Vanguard." 187 00:10:33,172 --> 00:10:34,297 Vanguard. 188 00:10:46,839 --> 00:10:48,589 And I was like, 189 00:10:48,673 --> 00:10:51,089 "What the fuck?" regarding the sashes. 190 00:11:03,798 --> 00:11:05,255 I called Mark at the end of that day. 191 00:11:05,339 --> 00:11:07,631 And I was like, "What the fuck did you get me involved with?" 192 00:11:07,714 --> 00:11:10,798 I mean, I wasn't on board at first. I'll be honest. 193 00:11:10,881 --> 00:11:12,506 But, look, I can understand. 194 00:11:12,589 --> 00:11:14,673 I'm used to ranking systems, you know. I was in, 195 00:11:14,756 --> 00:11:18,214 I was in boarding schools. I was in the Boy Scouts. 196 00:11:18,297 --> 00:11:21,547 I hated how short the fucking things were. They were stupid. 197 00:11:21,631 --> 00:11:24,839 But you know what? It's a silly piece of silk 198 00:11:24,923 --> 00:11:28,005 that represents an idea. That's all. 199 00:11:28,089 --> 00:11:31,798 But the ranking system is a way to recognize 200 00:11:31,881 --> 00:11:34,923 the value people bring to the world. 201 00:11:35,005 --> 00:11:36,964 And what would make the world better 202 00:11:37,047 --> 00:11:38,756 is if people valued each other. 203 00:11:38,839 --> 00:11:42,255 And give people tribute for what they're capable of and what they do, 204 00:11:42,339 --> 00:11:46,381 and what if this thing you're looking for, this, this dark lining, 205 00:11:46,464 --> 00:11:48,005 what if it's not here? 206 00:11:48,089 --> 00:11:50,339 But what if you feel it inside of yourself? 207 00:11:50,422 --> 00:11:52,756 Let me tell you just a little bit about the reaction 208 00:11:52,839 --> 00:11:54,631 that people have to our program. 209 00:11:54,714 --> 00:11:57,172 Occasionally, we have a person who comes in, 210 00:11:57,255 --> 00:11:58,881 and in the first couple of sessions, 211 00:11:58,964 --> 00:12:02,631 they begin to really see themselves for the first time. 212 00:12:02,714 --> 00:12:05,130 And when they really see themselves, 213 00:12:05,214 --> 00:12:08,047 they don't see what they thought they wanted to see. 214 00:12:08,130 --> 00:12:12,130 And these people want to leave the program right way. 215 00:12:12,214 --> 00:12:14,214 You know, you have skeptics, 216 00:12:14,297 --> 00:12:16,798 and you have cynics, and I define them. 217 00:12:16,881 --> 00:12:18,506 I say a skeptic 218 00:12:18,589 --> 00:12:21,881 is someone who seeks to turn magic into science. 219 00:12:21,964 --> 00:12:24,047 - And I'm one of them. - Mmm. 220 00:12:24,130 --> 00:12:27,339 A cynic is someone who seeks to turn good to bad. 221 00:12:27,422 --> 00:12:30,673 And I kept on saying, "Well, just do another day. What's one more day?" 222 00:12:30,756 --> 00:12:32,255 He said, "Wait till day three. 223 00:12:32,339 --> 00:12:34,214 "Everyone has a huge shift in day three. 224 00:12:34,297 --> 00:12:35,714 Day three's, like, really big." 225 00:12:35,798 --> 00:12:38,214 And it was sort of also, like, "Well, I'm here." 226 00:12:38,297 --> 00:12:39,964 You know? 227 00:12:40,047 --> 00:12:42,089 "Let's just ride it out." 228 00:12:42,172 --> 00:12:46,172 And it was true. On day three is when I had my first big, 229 00:12:46,255 --> 00:12:48,130 like, "Holy shit." 230 00:12:49,422 --> 00:12:51,756 And that was in the self-esteem module. 231 00:12:51,839 --> 00:12:53,547 What is self-esteem? 232 00:12:53,631 --> 00:12:55,464 And how do we measure it? 233 00:12:55,547 --> 00:12:58,631 Are there specific ways of raising one's self-esteem? 234 00:12:58,714 --> 00:13:01,464 Many people talk about self-esteem. 235 00:13:01,547 --> 00:13:04,422 But very few people really know what it is. 236 00:13:04,506 --> 00:13:06,297 Self-esteem was explained in, 237 00:13:06,381 --> 00:13:08,339 the working definition we use in ESP was, 238 00:13:08,422 --> 00:13:11,923 self-esteem is the range of options that you have in a given circumstance. 239 00:13:12,005 --> 00:13:15,255 People with high self-esteem see possibilities. 240 00:13:15,339 --> 00:13:17,464 But most of the time, you can't see those options 241 00:13:17,547 --> 00:13:19,923 because of what they called your limiting beliefs. 242 00:13:20,005 --> 00:13:23,798 All of us have a certain number of these limiting beliefs 243 00:13:23,881 --> 00:13:26,297 which is what we call "disintegrations." 244 00:13:26,381 --> 00:13:29,214 The things that keep you from being all that you can be 245 00:13:29,297 --> 00:13:32,089 and from reaching your full potential as a human being... 246 00:13:32,172 --> 00:13:34,381 The example I remember... I think Mark taught me this... 247 00:13:34,464 --> 00:13:36,089 If someone's a photographer, 248 00:13:36,172 --> 00:13:38,005 and they have a fear of heights, 249 00:13:38,089 --> 00:13:41,839 they're limited to what they can photograph on the ground floor. 250 00:13:41,923 --> 00:13:43,172 That's their potential. 251 00:13:43,255 --> 00:13:45,047 If you unhook their fear of heights, 252 00:13:45,130 --> 00:13:46,964 now they can go on the Eiffel Tower, 253 00:13:47,047 --> 00:13:49,005 and then there's more possibilities. 254 00:13:49,089 --> 00:13:51,089 Now, the average person has probably 255 00:13:51,172 --> 00:13:54,172 between two and 300 of these limiting beliefs. 256 00:13:54,255 --> 00:13:57,297 There wasn't, like, a limiting belief that was unlocked. 257 00:13:57,381 --> 00:13:59,214 It was multiple limiting beliefs. 258 00:13:59,297 --> 00:14:02,005 I can be Sarah who's not controlling. 259 00:14:02,089 --> 00:14:04,339 I can have a great relationship. 260 00:14:04,422 --> 00:14:07,255 I can have the best career. I can have all these things. 261 00:14:07,339 --> 00:14:11,589 It was different beliefs I had around money, my potential. 262 00:14:11,673 --> 00:14:13,422 I didn't have love for myself. 263 00:14:13,506 --> 00:14:15,673 - Hello? - I didn't have belief in myself. 264 00:14:15,756 --> 00:14:18,506 And we talk about getting lost in the movie. 265 00:14:18,589 --> 00:14:21,381 We're kind of lost in the role of our life. 266 00:14:21,464 --> 00:14:25,255 What you have to do is stop believing that that's who you are. 267 00:14:25,339 --> 00:14:27,964 I thought that was just the way that I was. 268 00:14:28,047 --> 00:14:31,339 And then all of a sudden, like, oh, I can systematically 269 00:14:31,422 --> 00:14:33,839 evolve to be the ideal version of myself. 270 00:14:33,923 --> 00:14:35,798 To write my own character, 271 00:14:35,881 --> 00:14:38,756 versus, "Well, that's the way I am." 272 00:14:38,839 --> 00:14:40,381 Like if I ever heard anyone go, 273 00:14:40,464 --> 00:14:42,881 "Well, I'm just not, you know, I'm just not a morning person." 274 00:14:42,964 --> 00:14:45,381 I'm like, "That just a limiting belief." 275 00:14:45,464 --> 00:14:47,255 When you recognize that everyone has limiting beliefs, 276 00:14:47,339 --> 00:14:48,964 you just walk around going, "Oh, that's a limiting belief. 277 00:14:49,047 --> 00:14:51,839 "That's not true. That's bullshit. He could change that. 278 00:14:51,923 --> 00:14:55,130 I could change that for him in 45 minutes if he'd let me." 279 00:14:56,589 --> 00:14:59,547 We believe that you can actually 280 00:14:59,631 --> 00:15:02,089 get rid of all your disintegrations. 281 00:15:02,172 --> 00:15:04,047 Every single time 282 00:15:04,130 --> 00:15:06,839 you integrate a disintegrated belief, 283 00:15:06,923 --> 00:15:08,589 you become more full. 284 00:15:08,673 --> 00:15:10,297 More whole. More rich. 285 00:15:10,381 --> 00:15:13,130 And become what we call unified. 286 00:15:13,214 --> 00:15:16,881 ESP and NXIVM was a tool set to help people get there. 287 00:15:16,964 --> 00:15:18,839 And that's where I feel like I got hooked, 288 00:15:18,923 --> 00:15:21,881 and a lot of people got hooked where ESP looked for, 289 00:15:21,964 --> 00:15:24,255 and for Mark as well, like, he had a... 290 00:15:24,339 --> 00:15:27,381 I should not speak for Mark. I don't know why, why he got hooked. 291 00:15:29,673 --> 00:15:34,130 I think the person that convinced me was Nancy Salzman. 292 00:15:35,964 --> 00:15:37,964 I want you to consider 293 00:15:38,047 --> 00:15:39,839 what sorts of changes 294 00:15:39,923 --> 00:15:42,089 would you really like to make in your life? 295 00:15:42,172 --> 00:15:46,506 If you could have, or do, or be anything, 296 00:15:46,589 --> 00:15:49,172 what would that look like? 297 00:15:50,214 --> 00:15:52,339 What would that feel like? 298 00:15:52,422 --> 00:15:54,839 I'd just released "What the Bleep." 299 00:15:54,923 --> 00:15:56,589 A lot of doors were opening to me. 300 00:15:56,673 --> 00:15:58,089 I could pretty much call, you know, 301 00:15:58,172 --> 00:15:59,631 any production company, any studio, 302 00:15:59,714 --> 00:16:02,130 and they would fuckin' take my call and meet with me. 303 00:16:02,214 --> 00:16:05,089 One day, I get an email 304 00:16:05,172 --> 00:16:08,005 from this woman called Barbara Bouchey. 305 00:16:08,089 --> 00:16:11,005 So, I call. There's two women on the other end: 306 00:16:11,089 --> 00:16:13,005 Barbara Bouchey and Nancy Salzman. 307 00:16:30,172 --> 00:16:31,756 They said, "Can we come meet you?" 308 00:16:31,839 --> 00:16:34,047 And I'm like, "Sure. That sounds great." 309 00:16:34,130 --> 00:16:35,631 The day that they were flying in, 310 00:16:35,714 --> 00:16:37,255 I said to them, "So, what airline?" 311 00:16:37,339 --> 00:16:39,631 They said, "No, no, no. We're at the, the private thing." 312 00:16:39,714 --> 00:16:41,130 And I was like, "Huh." 313 00:16:41,214 --> 00:16:42,964 So I remember them getting off the plane, 314 00:16:43,047 --> 00:16:45,214 and realizing, "Oh, it's like, a Learjet. 315 00:16:45,297 --> 00:16:49,047 Oh. That's, that's nice that they have, you know, you have this jet." 316 00:16:50,756 --> 00:16:53,798 I remember both of them asking me what I wanted. 317 00:16:53,881 --> 00:16:57,464 They said they loved my film. What else did I want to do? 318 00:16:57,547 --> 00:16:58,798 Which of course was, I want to make movies. 319 00:16:58,881 --> 00:17:00,381 I want to change the world, you know, and, 320 00:17:00,464 --> 00:17:02,005 and the impression I got from them is, 321 00:17:02,089 --> 00:17:03,714 "We will help you do all those things. 322 00:17:03,798 --> 00:17:06,255 We have the resources, we have the connections, we have the people." 323 00:17:06,339 --> 00:17:09,798 'Cause they have, like, billionaires in their group. 324 00:17:09,881 --> 00:17:12,464 There's an expression in Afrikaans... 325 00:17:14,381 --> 00:17:17,214 Which basically means, "You landed with your ass in the butter." 326 00:17:17,297 --> 00:17:18,839 And they said to me, you know, 327 00:17:18,923 --> 00:17:20,339 "Just come and take an intensive with us. 328 00:17:20,422 --> 00:17:22,005 Come and see what it is that we do." 329 00:17:22,089 --> 00:17:23,673 And the headquarters is in Albany. 330 00:17:23,756 --> 00:17:26,756 Our curriculum creates perceptual shifts. 331 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:28,839 A perceptual shift is something 332 00:17:28,964 --> 00:17:33,381 that when you have it, nothing is ever the same. 333 00:17:33,464 --> 00:17:35,464 You know, Nancy was in full force. 334 00:17:36,130 --> 00:17:38,422 This woman is like, sharp, 335 00:17:38,506 --> 00:17:39,964 and she's energetic, 336 00:17:40,047 --> 00:17:42,589 and she's warm, and she's connecting. 337 00:17:42,673 --> 00:17:46,214 But the thing that began to grow on me bit by bit 338 00:17:46,297 --> 00:17:48,130 is everybody was so kind. 339 00:17:48,214 --> 00:17:52,589 And it's this weird, like, incredible, idyllic type of society, 340 00:17:52,673 --> 00:17:56,047 where everybody's rooting for everybody. 341 00:17:56,130 --> 00:17:57,923 I went into Nancy's office, and I said, 342 00:17:58,005 --> 00:17:59,798 "You guys have an ulterior motive. 343 00:17:59,881 --> 00:18:01,255 Something's not right here." 344 00:18:01,339 --> 00:18:02,714 And she goes, "What do you mean?" I go, 345 00:18:02,798 --> 00:18:04,881 "Everybody, everybody's too nice, too kind. 346 00:18:04,964 --> 00:18:07,547 So full of shit. Something's not right." 347 00:18:07,631 --> 00:18:09,631 And she goes, "Huh. Really. 348 00:18:09,714 --> 00:18:14,130 "What if it's you that's looking for that problem? 349 00:18:14,214 --> 00:18:16,839 What if it doesn't exist?" 350 00:18:16,923 --> 00:18:19,964 Keith developed a model called "Rational Inquiry," 351 00:18:20,047 --> 00:18:23,047 which is the model that we use in this program. 352 00:18:23,130 --> 00:18:27,381 We refer to rational inquiry as a technology. 353 00:18:27,464 --> 00:18:29,547 It was a process designed to produce 354 00:18:29,631 --> 00:18:32,255 quantifiable results. 355 00:18:32,339 --> 00:18:35,798 And understand how profound this thing is that he's created. 356 00:18:35,881 --> 00:18:37,673 It's filed in the patent office 357 00:18:37,756 --> 00:18:39,422 under artificial intelligence. 358 00:18:39,506 --> 00:18:41,214 This isn't about, like, mystical beliefs, 359 00:18:41,297 --> 00:18:43,422 and howling at the moon, and holding a crystal, 360 00:18:43,506 --> 00:18:45,005 and doing this... This was like, science, 361 00:18:45,089 --> 00:18:48,339 and I was like, "Okay, this is... This is what I want." 362 00:18:48,422 --> 00:18:51,255 There was a particular method that they used 363 00:18:51,339 --> 00:18:52,964 to help people overcome phobias. 364 00:18:53,047 --> 00:18:54,923 An EM. 365 00:18:55,005 --> 00:18:58,339 "Exploration of Meaning" is the unique methodology 366 00:18:58,422 --> 00:19:00,130 that's designed to uncover the fear 367 00:19:00,214 --> 00:19:03,964 behind a specific issue a person was having. 368 00:19:04,047 --> 00:19:07,839 The beliefs that we formed when we were small children 369 00:19:07,923 --> 00:19:09,714 stay with us. 370 00:19:09,798 --> 00:19:11,714 And do you know what that means? 371 00:19:11,798 --> 00:19:14,130 It means that on some levels, 372 00:19:14,214 --> 00:19:16,839 six-, seven-, and eight-year-olds, 373 00:19:16,923 --> 00:19:18,464 are running the world. 374 00:19:18,547 --> 00:19:21,297 Our programs are programs where 375 00:19:21,381 --> 00:19:23,130 we begin to reevaluate 376 00:19:23,214 --> 00:19:26,673 those very early conclusions we came to. 377 00:19:26,756 --> 00:19:29,381 Nancy says, "Who wants to work on something?" 378 00:19:29,464 --> 00:19:32,506 And I go, "Yeah, I have really bad panic attacks on the freeway." 379 00:19:32,589 --> 00:19:35,005 And she's like, "Great. Let's do that one." 380 00:19:35,089 --> 00:19:37,673 So, I go to the front of the class, 381 00:19:37,756 --> 00:19:40,756 and we're sitting opposite of each other in, like, what they call a demo, 382 00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:42,714 an EM demo. 383 00:19:42,798 --> 00:19:45,339 What's the first thought you have? 384 00:19:45,422 --> 00:19:47,172 If you focus on it, 385 00:19:47,255 --> 00:19:49,673 can you bring up an associated memory? 386 00:19:49,756 --> 00:19:52,839 A time in the past when you had that feeling? 387 00:19:52,923 --> 00:19:54,756 What's scary about it? 388 00:19:54,839 --> 00:19:56,964 And she had said, "There comes a certain point 389 00:19:57,047 --> 00:19:59,172 "when we get into a part of your brain 390 00:19:59,255 --> 00:20:00,839 "that is non-logical, 391 00:20:00,923 --> 00:20:02,881 where it's gonna s... It's gonna feel weird." 392 00:20:02,964 --> 00:20:06,673 And that's what it felt like. I didn't even know what language she's speaking. 393 00:20:06,756 --> 00:20:08,464 It sounds like what she's saying 394 00:20:08,547 --> 00:20:10,631 is just this garbled something. 395 00:20:12,964 --> 00:20:15,089 But I just remember suddenly, like, 396 00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:18,756 all the noise starts to quiet down. 397 00:20:22,756 --> 00:20:24,839 And I'm, like, "What? What? What just happened? That's it?" 398 00:20:24,923 --> 00:20:27,381 She goes, "No, no, no. This, that's not it. I mean, this is a science, 399 00:20:27,464 --> 00:20:29,339 "so next time you're in that situation, 400 00:20:29,422 --> 00:20:31,964 you're gonna check the results and you're gonna report to me." 401 00:20:33,047 --> 00:20:35,756 I went back to LA, and I was on a freeway, 402 00:20:35,839 --> 00:20:39,214 and I realized, strangely enough, 403 00:20:39,297 --> 00:20:43,422 that I was sitting in traffic and I was feeling nothing. 404 00:20:43,506 --> 00:20:47,172 And I remember thinking, "Wait, wait, wait." 405 00:20:47,255 --> 00:20:50,422 Like, I remembered that I was supposed to feel panicked. 406 00:20:50,506 --> 00:20:52,923 And I tried to find the panic. I tried to bring it up, 407 00:20:53,005 --> 00:20:55,798 and I couldn't bring it up, and I'm like, "Whoa." 408 00:20:57,339 --> 00:20:59,673 And then I asked her a question, "When's it gonna come back?" 409 00:20:59,756 --> 00:21:02,255 And she said, "What do you mean, 'When's it gonna come back?'" 410 00:21:02,339 --> 00:21:03,839 She says, "It can't come back." 411 00:21:03,923 --> 00:21:06,130 Now, the difference between having an integration 412 00:21:06,214 --> 00:21:10,881 and other processes is when it's gone, it's gone. 413 00:21:10,964 --> 00:21:14,756 With an integration, you can't even remember what it used to be like. 414 00:21:14,839 --> 00:21:20,214 It changes your whole experience of existence forever. 415 00:21:20,297 --> 00:21:23,047 And a lot of these explorations of meanings, 416 00:21:23,130 --> 00:21:25,464 when you had the revelation, whatever it was, 417 00:21:25,547 --> 00:21:28,214 the missing something that you couldn't see, 418 00:21:28,297 --> 00:21:30,047 you felt high. 419 00:21:30,130 --> 00:21:32,047 It's like a peak experience. 420 00:21:32,130 --> 00:21:34,668 So you start to have a bunch of peak experiences, 421 00:21:34,668 --> 00:21:35,838 you're like, "This is the shit." 422 00:21:35,839 --> 00:21:37,923 Like, we're not taking drugs, 423 00:21:38,005 --> 00:21:39,923 we're not, like, blindfolded, 424 00:21:40,005 --> 00:21:41,923 we're not doing sensory deprivation. 425 00:21:42,005 --> 00:21:43,464 We're just having conversations. 426 00:21:43,547 --> 00:21:45,255 This is almost sci-fi. 427 00:21:45,339 --> 00:21:48,255 This is, like, beyond what I thought was possible. 428 00:21:48,339 --> 00:21:51,339 Like, I've arrived at the Federation, 429 00:21:51,422 --> 00:21:53,506 50 years in the future, 430 00:21:53,589 --> 00:21:55,964 and they have hacked the human brain. 431 00:21:56,047 --> 00:21:58,089 And I remember after that first intensive, 432 00:21:58,172 --> 00:22:00,839 I was working on a screenplay which I'd struggled with for a long time. 433 00:22:00,923 --> 00:22:03,130 I wrote it in three and a half weeks. 434 00:22:03,214 --> 00:22:05,089 And it was good. 435 00:22:05,172 --> 00:22:07,130 I was like, "I'm in." 436 00:22:11,297 --> 00:22:13,255 I felt like I was soaring. 437 00:22:14,255 --> 00:22:16,923 It was like almost like a magic. 438 00:22:17,005 --> 00:22:19,214 I felt like I was getting downloaded a, 439 00:22:19,297 --> 00:22:21,130 a book of knowledge 440 00:22:21,214 --> 00:22:23,130 about people, about society, 441 00:22:23,214 --> 00:22:25,839 about the world in general. 442 00:22:25,923 --> 00:22:30,547 I really felt like I had this secret potion of understanding. 443 00:22:30,631 --> 00:22:34,005 I had all this theory about how to change stuff. 444 00:22:34,089 --> 00:22:35,964 Stuff in here, stuff in here. 445 00:22:36,047 --> 00:22:37,589 But I didn't know how to do it. 446 00:22:37,673 --> 00:22:41,839 And for the first time, I saw a way, a tool, to actually do it. 447 00:22:41,923 --> 00:22:44,214 I loved watching people have breakthroughs. 448 00:22:44,297 --> 00:22:48,547 I remember there was one woman who was EMing somebody 449 00:22:48,631 --> 00:22:51,089 on an issue they've had for 25 years, 450 00:22:51,172 --> 00:22:53,673 and have them have a massive integration 451 00:22:53,756 --> 00:22:56,798 and cry, and, um, laugh. 452 00:22:56,881 --> 00:22:58,005 And go, like, "Oh, my God. 453 00:22:58,089 --> 00:22:59,589 "Like, I feel like I could... 454 00:22:59,673 --> 00:23:00,839 "I'm gonna call my dad now. 455 00:23:00,923 --> 00:23:02,547 I haven't talked to him since I was 15." 456 00:23:02,631 --> 00:23:04,589 Or whatever. Like, those moments 457 00:23:04,673 --> 00:23:07,422 were so beautiful, and so inspiring, 458 00:23:07,506 --> 00:23:10,422 and so much more efficient than therapy. 459 00:23:10,506 --> 00:23:12,673 Our main emphasis, our main belief, 460 00:23:12,756 --> 00:23:16,297 is to have people experience more joy in their lives. 461 00:23:16,381 --> 00:23:17,964 And from that, 462 00:23:18,047 --> 00:23:22,339 all sorts of interesting effects appear to happen. 463 00:23:22,422 --> 00:23:26,005 Raniere proposed this map of how everything worked. 464 00:23:26,089 --> 00:23:28,923 It was a unified theory to explain 465 00:23:29,005 --> 00:23:32,172 why people do what they do and how to change that. 466 00:23:32,255 --> 00:23:34,881 If you can work your disintegrations 467 00:23:34,964 --> 00:23:37,964 so that you arrive at this integrated map, you will be integrated. 468 00:23:38,047 --> 00:23:41,255 And what does it mean if you're integrated? You're joyful. 469 00:23:41,339 --> 00:23:44,005 And part of it was like, "This is fuckin' cool. 470 00:23:44,089 --> 00:23:48,339 This is a code to understand myself." 471 00:23:48,422 --> 00:23:51,547 That I'm no longer such a terrible mystery to myself. 472 00:23:51,631 --> 00:23:53,255 And it is kind of a relief of like, 473 00:23:53,339 --> 00:23:55,589 "Well, what if everything is explainable?" 474 00:23:55,673 --> 00:23:58,589 Most of what we say makes sense. 475 00:23:58,673 --> 00:24:01,130 It's not grounded in mysticism at all. 476 00:24:01,214 --> 00:24:04,464 It's not grounded in a lot of things that 477 00:24:04,547 --> 00:24:07,589 maybe are highly effective but are unexplainable. 478 00:24:07,673 --> 00:24:11,172 I think we have quite potent tools, 479 00:24:11,255 --> 00:24:13,255 and I think our tools are unique. 480 00:24:13,339 --> 00:24:14,923 I think they said to me, you know, "At some point, 481 00:24:15,005 --> 00:24:16,631 you're gonna meet Keith." And I go, "When?" 482 00:24:16,714 --> 00:24:18,005 "Oh, we'll see," you know. 483 00:24:18,089 --> 00:24:21,422 And the way they painted, who's this Keith Raniere? 484 00:24:21,506 --> 00:24:22,881 Like, who's this Vanguard guy? 485 00:24:22,964 --> 00:24:24,381 You know, I was told things like... 486 00:24:24,464 --> 00:24:26,255 "The Guinness Book of World Records" said that 487 00:24:26,339 --> 00:24:30,297 he was one of the top scorers on an IQ test ever given. 488 00:24:30,381 --> 00:24:33,255 One of the top three problem solvers in the world. 489 00:24:38,214 --> 00:24:39,964 He went to college at RPI... 490 00:24:40,047 --> 00:24:42,631 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute... when he was 16. 491 00:24:42,714 --> 00:24:44,381 Also, they told me he had triple majors 492 00:24:44,464 --> 00:24:47,047 in mathematics, biology, and computer science. 493 00:24:54,673 --> 00:24:57,714 He was a concert double pianist. 494 00:25:08,089 --> 00:25:10,798 And then finally, they decide I'm ready. 495 00:25:14,047 --> 00:25:16,172 I was staying at Nancy Salzman's house, 496 00:25:16,255 --> 00:25:19,130 and this guy walks in... 497 00:25:20,756 --> 00:25:22,089 Woo! 498 00:25:22,172 --> 00:25:24,964 Who's like, short, and like, bouncy, 499 00:25:25,047 --> 00:25:28,047 and he's like, an odd guy. 500 00:25:28,130 --> 00:25:30,381 There was a part of me that was like, 501 00:25:30,464 --> 00:25:32,381 "This-this is the dude?" 502 00:25:33,005 --> 00:25:34,589 Breakfast. 503 00:25:34,673 --> 00:25:37,369 You can't come to Nancy's house without breakfast. 504 00:25:38,339 --> 00:25:40,964 But you never know where wisdom comes from, you know? 505 00:25:41,047 --> 00:25:42,798 Well, who's to say that this guy, who's just like, 506 00:25:42,881 --> 00:25:44,964 really strange and interesting 507 00:25:45,047 --> 00:25:46,714 might not be in fact, like, 508 00:25:46,798 --> 00:25:48,506 somebody that could actually help the world? 509 00:25:48,589 --> 00:25:50,839 So shall we sit down? 510 00:25:50,923 --> 00:25:53,798 And so, we begin having a conversation. 511 00:25:53,881 --> 00:25:56,798 And that conversation lasts for five hours. 512 00:25:58,714 --> 00:26:00,255 - You all set? - Mm-hmm. 513 00:26:00,339 --> 00:26:02,714 And in that five hours, I'm asking him about 514 00:26:02,798 --> 00:26:05,255 dark matter or quantum mechanics, a whole bunch of things. 515 00:26:05,339 --> 00:26:07,589 And he's telling me stuff that's just blowing my mind. 516 00:26:07,673 --> 00:26:09,631 And I'm saying to him, "I've never heard these ideas before." 517 00:26:09,714 --> 00:26:11,964 He goes, "Well, it's based on a new mathematics that I've developed." 518 00:26:12,047 --> 00:26:14,297 And I said, like, "You've developed a new mathematics?" 519 00:26:14,381 --> 00:26:16,089 He goes, "Y-Yeah." 520 00:26:16,172 --> 00:26:20,839 But he was, like, super, super gentle about all these things, you know? 521 00:26:20,923 --> 00:26:24,339 So, he starts asking me questions about my life. 522 00:27:06,673 --> 00:27:08,130 Hmm. 523 00:27:16,798 --> 00:27:19,172 Why? 524 00:27:22,089 --> 00:27:23,547 Hmm. 525 00:27:28,881 --> 00:27:30,381 Mm-hmm. 526 00:27:32,714 --> 00:27:34,381 And he says to me, 527 00:27:34,464 --> 00:27:39,089 "I think that you feel a deep responsibility for humanity." 528 00:27:39,172 --> 00:27:41,005 He says, "I think because of your upbringing, 529 00:27:41,089 --> 00:27:43,673 "and what you saw in your country... 530 00:27:46,422 --> 00:27:48,839 "you wanna, like, do something that's really gonna help the world, 531 00:27:48,923 --> 00:27:51,172 "and you're scared that you'll do damage. 532 00:27:51,255 --> 00:27:53,255 "Is that why you're scared? 533 00:27:53,339 --> 00:27:55,756 Is that why you're afraid to hit hard?" 534 00:28:00,130 --> 00:28:01,172 Mm-hmm. 535 00:28:39,464 --> 00:28:41,547 It's almost like he's showing me 536 00:28:41,631 --> 00:28:44,172 the movie version of what I could be like. 537 00:28:45,214 --> 00:28:47,631 And at that point, he had me. 538 00:29:23,339 --> 00:29:25,172 I think in the first year, 539 00:29:25,255 --> 00:29:28,589 I thought to myself, "I could see myself being part of this forever." 540 00:29:28,673 --> 00:29:31,798 And he kept on saying, "We will help you 541 00:29:31,881 --> 00:29:35,297 with your dream of using media to change the world." 542 00:29:39,005 --> 00:29:41,255 The one and only Nancy Salzman. 543 00:29:42,923 --> 00:29:45,047 I remember meeting Nancy for the first time, 544 00:29:45,130 --> 00:29:47,214 and it was pretty cool, because, you know, 545 00:29:47,297 --> 00:29:49,422 I'd gone from, like, judging her 546 00:29:49,506 --> 00:29:52,005 to thinking she was a rock star. 547 00:29:52,089 --> 00:29:55,089 Uh, a lot of people who've never seen me teach before 548 00:29:55,172 --> 00:29:56,923 are waiting for the video to go on, 549 00:29:57,005 --> 00:29:59,089 but, like, I'm the video. 550 00:29:59,172 --> 00:30:02,255 It was, like, really like meeting a celebrity. 551 00:30:02,339 --> 00:30:03,881 And then having her know who I was, 552 00:30:03,964 --> 00:30:06,464 and welcoming me into the community was... 553 00:30:06,547 --> 00:30:07,798 I felt very special. 554 00:30:07,881 --> 00:30:09,422 People can come, they can take classes 555 00:30:09,506 --> 00:30:12,130 as much as they want, forever and ever and ever. 556 00:30:12,214 --> 00:30:14,089 They can satiate in our curriculum, 557 00:30:14,172 --> 00:30:17,089 but what Vanguard has wanted us to do for a very long time 558 00:30:17,172 --> 00:30:20,464 is have people working the Stripe Path. 559 00:30:20,547 --> 00:30:23,464 "Stripe Path" is the term we used for the ranking system, 560 00:30:23,547 --> 00:30:24,923 the sashes. 561 00:30:25,005 --> 00:30:27,464 It represented you moving up within the company, 562 00:30:27,547 --> 00:30:29,631 and in order to go up the Stripe Path, 563 00:30:29,714 --> 00:30:31,798 you had to keep taking curriculum, enroll people, 564 00:30:31,881 --> 00:30:35,798 and most importantly, you had to get rid of your disintegrations. 565 00:30:35,881 --> 00:30:40,214 So, part of my journey is to go up the levels and learn. 566 00:30:40,297 --> 00:30:42,005 I started as a yellow... 567 00:30:42,089 --> 00:30:43,673 First stripe, second stripe, third stripe. 568 00:30:43,756 --> 00:30:45,547 In a year, I'd become a proctor, 569 00:30:45,631 --> 00:30:48,255 and eventually, I'm a senior proctor, a green. 570 00:30:48,339 --> 00:30:51,673 Hi, Senior Proctor Vicente! 571 00:30:53,589 --> 00:30:55,839 Hello, Senior Proctor Mark Vicente. 572 00:31:06,547 --> 00:31:10,047 You know, I hated wearing my sash at the beginning. 573 00:31:10,130 --> 00:31:12,005 I hated it. It was like, "What is this piece of fabric? 574 00:31:12,089 --> 00:31:14,506 It doesn't match my outfit. It's uncomfortable." 575 00:31:14,589 --> 00:31:16,089 It didn't mean anything to me. 576 00:31:16,172 --> 00:31:19,172 But by the time I became a coach, 577 00:31:19,255 --> 00:31:20,798 yellow sash, 578 00:31:20,881 --> 00:31:23,297 and went up the Stripe Path and earned my four stripes, 579 00:31:23,381 --> 00:31:25,756 and worked my butt off to get to proctor, 580 00:31:25,839 --> 00:31:28,381 what this meant to me, this little piece of fabric, 581 00:31:28,464 --> 00:31:31,631 it meant my growth, it meant my commitment to myself. 582 00:31:31,714 --> 00:31:34,422 It meant me pushing through adversity, not giving up. 583 00:31:34,506 --> 00:31:36,547 Getting to proctor was the first thing in my life 584 00:31:36,631 --> 00:31:38,798 that I felt like I really earned. 585 00:31:41,297 --> 00:31:44,464 And it wasn't just about my growth. 586 00:31:44,547 --> 00:31:47,589 It was so rewarding to share ESP with people. 587 00:31:47,673 --> 00:31:50,172 Thank you, uh, Senior Proctor Edmondson, 588 00:31:50,255 --> 00:31:53,047 for your support. You're such a humble pillar. 589 00:31:53,130 --> 00:31:54,547 You know, it's because of you 590 00:31:54,631 --> 00:31:57,047 that I'm in this crazy organization. 591 00:31:57,130 --> 00:31:59,547 And lastly, thank you so much to Prefect and Vanguard 592 00:31:59,631 --> 00:32:02,547 for creating this amazing organization. Thank you. 593 00:32:04,589 --> 00:32:07,422 That's why ESP became more important to me than acting. 594 00:32:07,506 --> 00:32:08,839 You ready? 595 00:32:08,923 --> 00:32:11,089 It was very rewarding for me. 596 00:32:11,172 --> 00:32:13,547 I want to welcome you to the rank of coach, 597 00:32:13,631 --> 00:32:15,464 with all the rights, responsibilities, 598 00:32:15,547 --> 00:32:18,881 and privileges that entail. Congratulations. 599 00:32:18,964 --> 00:32:22,297 Aah! 600 00:32:23,464 --> 00:32:25,130 To those of us that were facilitating, 601 00:32:25,214 --> 00:32:27,673 people would say shit like, "You guys are like Jedis," you know. 602 00:32:27,756 --> 00:32:28,964 And there was a part of me that'd be like, 603 00:32:29,047 --> 00:32:30,923 "Yeah, I've always wanted to be a Jedi." 604 00:32:31,005 --> 00:32:33,089 But really, what was cool about it was like, that 605 00:32:33,172 --> 00:32:34,839 people would come in... 606 00:32:34,923 --> 00:32:38,673 So concerned about something in their life. 607 00:32:38,756 --> 00:32:41,255 And we would help them get clarity. 608 00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:46,714 This is so exciting. 609 00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:49,130 And it wasn't so much like, "Oh, I did it." 610 00:32:49,214 --> 00:32:51,047 It's very clear that that's not how it worked. 611 00:32:51,130 --> 00:32:56,130 But I do remember the deep sense of privilege 612 00:32:56,214 --> 00:32:58,255 that I could help people. 613 00:33:10,923 --> 00:33:13,464 I think the first time I met Bonnie 614 00:33:13,547 --> 00:33:15,422 would have been 2000... maybe 7. 615 00:33:15,506 --> 00:33:17,255 I'm not sure of the exact date. 616 00:33:17,339 --> 00:33:20,214 A friend of mine was on "Battlestar Galactica." 617 00:33:20,297 --> 00:33:22,798 Bonnie had been in "Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith" 618 00:33:22,881 --> 00:33:24,130 and "Attack of the Clones." 619 00:33:24,214 --> 00:33:26,130 - This is my girlfriend, Beru. - Hello. 620 00:33:26,214 --> 00:33:29,506 And so they met at a sci-fi convention. 621 00:33:29,589 --> 00:33:32,798 "Oh, my God. You have to meet this girl. She's a singer. 622 00:33:32,881 --> 00:33:35,409 She's a fan of your movie, you're a fan of "Star Wars." 623 00:33:35,433 --> 00:33:37,171 You guys have gotta meet." 624 00:33:37,172 --> 00:33:40,464 So I met her in Hollywood. 625 00:33:40,547 --> 00:33:42,839 And she was, like, you know, record deals, 626 00:33:42,923 --> 00:33:46,381 and, like, pinnacle of her career and the whole thing. 627 00:33:46,464 --> 00:33:48,339 And then, a few years later, 628 00:33:48,422 --> 00:33:51,172 I connected with her again, and I said, 629 00:33:51,255 --> 00:33:54,214 you know, something like, you know, "Let's have tea." 630 00:33:54,297 --> 00:33:57,297 And then I said to her, you know, "I've never heard your music." 631 00:33:57,381 --> 00:33:59,673 So we went up to the place I was staying, 632 00:33:59,756 --> 00:34:02,172 she took a guitar, we made tea, 633 00:34:02,255 --> 00:34:05,506 and she began playing a song. 634 00:34:05,589 --> 00:34:09,673 # I don't want to # 635 00:34:09,756 --> 00:34:12,881 # Show you # 636 00:34:12,964 --> 00:34:18,381 # The sadness in my heart # 637 00:34:18,464 --> 00:34:21,839 And I remember thinking, "Oh, my fucking God." 638 00:34:21,923 --> 00:34:24,464 Like, when you suddenly realize, like, oh, dear. 639 00:34:24,547 --> 00:34:27,464 I'm feeling so many things right now 640 00:34:27,547 --> 00:34:30,839 that I can't... I can't keep them in. 641 00:34:30,923 --> 00:34:33,381 They're just, they're just bubbling, bubbling out of me. 642 00:34:33,464 --> 00:34:35,339 And I remember she said to me at one point, 643 00:34:35,422 --> 00:34:37,172 "I'm thinking of giving up music." 644 00:34:37,255 --> 00:34:38,589 And I said to her, 645 00:34:38,673 --> 00:34:40,964 "Give me five days of your life, 646 00:34:41,047 --> 00:34:44,714 "and then if you decide to give up music, go for it. 647 00:34:44,798 --> 00:34:46,631 Give me five days, though." 648 00:34:47,631 --> 00:34:49,798 And she said yes. 649 00:34:55,255 --> 00:34:57,422 Before I signed up for my first five-day, 650 00:34:57,506 --> 00:34:59,673 I was in a transition. 651 00:35:00,881 --> 00:35:02,339 For me, growing up, 652 00:35:02,422 --> 00:35:04,631 one of the ways that I really expressed myself 653 00:35:04,714 --> 00:35:06,714 was to make music. 654 00:35:06,798 --> 00:35:08,964 I'd been very serious about my music career, 655 00:35:09,047 --> 00:35:10,923 but things were kind of falling apart 656 00:35:11,005 --> 00:35:12,673 with the record label that I was with, 657 00:35:12,756 --> 00:35:15,798 and I was struggling with fear and anxiety, 658 00:35:15,881 --> 00:35:19,255 and just not feeling very happy. 659 00:35:19,339 --> 00:35:22,130 So, I was looking for something to relieve that, 660 00:35:22,214 --> 00:35:26,047 and to give me a deeper understanding of life. 661 00:35:27,172 --> 00:35:29,589 And that's what I met Mark. 662 00:35:29,673 --> 00:35:31,798 I instantly trusted Mark, 663 00:35:31,881 --> 00:35:33,631 and I thought he was a really good person. 664 00:35:33,714 --> 00:35:37,631 Like, it's something that I don't really know how to describe, 665 00:35:37,714 --> 00:35:39,005 but, like, I would look in his eyes 666 00:35:39,089 --> 00:35:41,047 and I just felt like he really cares. 667 00:35:42,631 --> 00:35:44,839 I said, like, "I'm trying to find this feeling," 668 00:35:44,923 --> 00:35:48,673 and I described, like, a peaceful, calm joy. 669 00:35:48,756 --> 00:35:52,089 He totally got it. He was like, "Right. That feeling." 670 00:35:52,172 --> 00:35:53,297 That struck me. 671 00:35:53,381 --> 00:35:54,756 I had never had anyone pinpoint, 672 00:35:54,839 --> 00:35:57,506 like, a feeling like that for me. 673 00:36:00,381 --> 00:36:03,547 I took my five-day in 2010. 674 00:36:03,631 --> 00:36:06,964 I remember some of the questions that the coaches asked, 675 00:36:07,047 --> 00:36:09,130 and some of the ways that they described 676 00:36:09,214 --> 00:36:11,464 how they thought that I felt 677 00:36:11,547 --> 00:36:14,881 were just so spot on. 678 00:36:15,005 --> 00:36:17,923 The whole five-day was set up with these deep questions. 679 00:36:18,005 --> 00:36:20,130 Like, you start right from the beginning. 680 00:36:20,214 --> 00:36:24,005 Things like, "What's the thing you most regret in your life? 681 00:36:24,089 --> 00:36:25,798 Who do you most love in the world?" 682 00:36:25,881 --> 00:36:28,964 Or, "Who do you feel you need to make something right with?" 683 00:36:29,047 --> 00:36:31,673 So you're really going into the deepest feelings 684 00:36:31,756 --> 00:36:34,172 that you've had about anything. 685 00:36:34,255 --> 00:36:37,881 And the coaches encourage you to kind of let down your guard. 686 00:36:37,964 --> 00:36:39,506 They say it in a really nice way, 687 00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:42,589 and they're like teasing you in a way that feels like tough love. 688 00:36:50,130 --> 00:36:51,839 And everyone's doing it, 689 00:36:51,923 --> 00:36:53,506 and you get encouraged if you 690 00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:56,714 show vulnerability, too. 691 00:36:56,798 --> 00:37:00,130 I knew that I wanted to be a coach right away. 692 00:37:33,130 --> 00:37:36,464 Within a week, I had gone to Albany already and met Keith. 693 00:37:36,547 --> 00:37:40,673 I was amazed by the EM tech, and I wanted to do that. 694 00:37:40,756 --> 00:37:43,089 The path to become an EMP 695 00:37:43,172 --> 00:37:45,381 was you had to get on the Stripe Path, 696 00:37:45,464 --> 00:37:47,339 then go out and practice. 697 00:37:47,422 --> 00:37:49,214 And so I, I practiced. 698 00:37:49,756 --> 00:37:50,839 And I loved it. 699 00:37:50,923 --> 00:37:53,130 It was, like, my favorite thing in the world. 700 00:37:53,214 --> 00:37:56,089 I loved it. 701 00:37:56,172 --> 00:38:01,089 I felt like, yeah, the most deeply understood I had ever felt. 702 00:38:01,172 --> 00:38:03,839 I felt like I'd found my people. 703 00:38:05,089 --> 00:38:07,714 And they just felt like such good vibes 704 00:38:07,798 --> 00:38:09,089 compared to 705 00:38:09,172 --> 00:38:11,297 the situations I'd been dealing with 706 00:38:11,381 --> 00:38:12,547 in the music industry. 707 00:38:12,631 --> 00:38:14,297 Here were people who were, like, 708 00:38:14,381 --> 00:38:15,464 really enjoying themselves, 709 00:38:15,547 --> 00:38:18,422 and working on their internal world. 710 00:38:18,506 --> 00:38:21,339 And it felt much more meaningful. 711 00:38:22,547 --> 00:38:24,964 When we start to understand principles, 712 00:38:25,047 --> 00:38:28,297 and in our new global world, 713 00:38:28,381 --> 00:38:31,297 there needs to be the ethical humanitarian 714 00:38:31,381 --> 00:38:34,631 who is more ecological. More visionary. 715 00:38:34,714 --> 00:38:35,839 More compassionate. 716 00:38:35,923 --> 00:38:38,631 And takes others into account. 717 00:38:40,464 --> 00:38:42,130 In the beginning, 718 00:38:42,214 --> 00:38:44,214 I never actually did really resonate 719 00:38:44,297 --> 00:38:46,923 with the word "ethics," or "ethical mission." 720 00:38:47,005 --> 00:38:50,089 But then, there were different classes where you'd actually learn 721 00:38:50,172 --> 00:38:52,631 why bad things were happening in the world. 722 00:38:52,714 --> 00:38:55,631 Like, why there was corruption and unrest. 723 00:38:55,714 --> 00:38:57,631 This is the world. 724 00:38:57,714 --> 00:38:59,756 We have starving people, right? 725 00:38:59,839 --> 00:39:02,297 I'll just put starve. "Strave." 726 00:39:03,172 --> 00:39:04,339 Strave! 727 00:39:04,422 --> 00:39:08,214 And then we have... the whales. 728 00:39:08,297 --> 00:39:11,506 We have abused animals in movies. 729 00:39:13,339 --> 00:39:16,673 We have crime, murder, all that sort of thing. 730 00:39:16,756 --> 00:39:18,923 All of these are effects. 731 00:39:19,005 --> 00:39:21,964 The problem's right here. Let me... 732 00:39:22,923 --> 00:39:24,506 That's the problem. 733 00:39:24,589 --> 00:39:26,089 Blow it up. 734 00:39:30,172 --> 00:39:31,798 Right? 735 00:39:32,756 --> 00:39:34,631 There's no problem with the planet. 736 00:39:34,714 --> 00:39:36,255 It's the stuff we do. 737 00:39:36,339 --> 00:39:38,422 You will be as ethical as possible. 738 00:39:38,506 --> 00:39:42,005 You will be that which you want to see in the world. 739 00:39:42,089 --> 00:39:45,214 If everyone was integrated to some degree, 740 00:39:45,297 --> 00:39:46,673 do you think someone who's integrated 741 00:39:46,756 --> 00:39:48,714 would go and steal from someone else? 742 00:39:48,798 --> 00:39:51,547 The ethical mission that I did resonate with 743 00:39:51,631 --> 00:39:54,547 was this mission of helping people integrate 744 00:39:54,631 --> 00:39:56,214 emotional reactions, 745 00:39:56,297 --> 00:39:58,631 so that they could live the best life. 746 00:40:01,464 --> 00:40:04,339 Marc Elliot comes into ESP, 747 00:40:04,422 --> 00:40:07,255 and Marc Elliot has a pretty severe case of Tourette's. 748 00:40:09,631 --> 00:40:12,214 And in his first intensive, he's ticking like crazy, 749 00:40:12,297 --> 00:40:16,047 and saying all kinds of words on two people, and it's just a mess. 750 00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:18,547 Fuck, fuck, fuck. 751 00:40:18,631 --> 00:40:21,047 I have Tourette's, by the way. Just wanna throw that out there, okay? 752 00:40:21,130 --> 00:40:23,214 Nancy Salzman and Keith Raniere, I believe, 753 00:40:23,297 --> 00:40:25,756 tried to figure out, "What if we could cure this?" 754 00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:29,255 So they begin working with him, documenting his progress. 755 00:40:29,339 --> 00:40:32,339 And we start talking about, "Okay, let's turn this into a film." 756 00:40:32,422 --> 00:40:34,673 Keith Raniere thought it would be a good idea 757 00:40:34,756 --> 00:40:36,881 for us to study other people with Tourette's 758 00:40:36,964 --> 00:40:40,172 to see if we could have an effect in a consistent way. 759 00:40:40,255 --> 00:40:42,005 The participants came to Albany. 760 00:40:42,089 --> 00:40:44,839 We filmed them working with Nancy Salzman and the team. 761 00:40:44,923 --> 00:40:47,923 When I met Isabella, she had Tourette's, 762 00:40:48,005 --> 00:40:51,422 and she had a lot of obsessive compulsive disorder 763 00:40:51,506 --> 00:40:53,339 with the Tourette's. 764 00:40:53,422 --> 00:40:55,047 We don't use any drugs. 765 00:40:55,130 --> 00:40:58,547 The only thing that we use is a talk approach. 766 00:40:58,631 --> 00:41:01,255 I listen to where I think that their beliefs are limited. 767 00:41:01,339 --> 00:41:04,756 And then I look at the stimulus response patterns that they have, 768 00:41:04,839 --> 00:41:07,547 and I systematically disconnect them. 769 00:41:07,631 --> 00:41:11,130 I did some EMs with Nancy, and... 770 00:41:11,214 --> 00:41:12,631 that went well. 771 00:41:12,714 --> 00:41:16,422 Uh, she said I seemed like a real person. 772 00:41:16,506 --> 00:41:20,297 I talked with my dad last night for like 20 minutes, and it was really good. 773 00:41:20,381 --> 00:41:22,506 He called my mom. He said, "It was really great 774 00:41:22,589 --> 00:41:24,464 having such a fluid conversation with her." 775 00:41:24,547 --> 00:41:26,631 As soon as I experienced these tools, 776 00:41:26,714 --> 00:41:29,255 I found that I was able to change something 777 00:41:29,339 --> 00:41:31,798 that most people believe is unchangeable. 778 00:41:31,881 --> 00:41:34,214 And now I live a life without Tourette's. 779 00:41:34,297 --> 00:41:36,631 The difference is staggering. 780 00:41:36,714 --> 00:41:39,714 It's miraculous. You go like, "How the fuck is this possible?" 781 00:41:39,798 --> 00:41:41,589 You know, if you've never seen a saw before, 782 00:41:41,673 --> 00:41:44,714 suddenly the cut piece of log seems like a miracle. 783 00:41:44,798 --> 00:41:46,339 It isn't. It's a tool. 784 00:41:46,422 --> 00:41:48,547 And in some cases, 785 00:41:48,631 --> 00:41:51,673 when conventional solutions don't work, 786 00:41:51,756 --> 00:41:55,506 maybe the unconventional way of thinking does. 787 00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:57,798 Keith had found a cure for Tourette's, 788 00:41:57,881 --> 00:42:00,714 which is a heightened version 789 00:42:00,798 --> 00:42:02,255 of what any of us do in ESP. 790 00:42:02,339 --> 00:42:05,089 You teach yourself that you're in full control 791 00:42:05,172 --> 00:42:06,881 of your emotions at all times. 792 00:42:06,964 --> 00:42:09,673 In full control of your responses at all times. 793 00:42:12,089 --> 00:42:13,881 There was such a hopeful possibility 794 00:42:13,964 --> 00:42:17,047 of what we could do, 'cause if we can cure Tourette's, 795 00:42:17,130 --> 00:42:19,589 that it would give ESP and NXIVM validity, 796 00:42:19,673 --> 00:42:21,923 especially in the scientific world. 797 00:42:22,005 --> 00:42:23,589 That could change everything. 798 00:42:24,297 --> 00:42:26,589 I want to move the world. 799 00:42:26,673 --> 00:42:28,881 I want to change the way it works. 800 00:42:28,964 --> 00:42:32,422 I want to have this revolution work. 801 00:42:34,255 --> 00:42:35,798 The mission was, 802 00:42:35,881 --> 00:42:38,923 how could you get people all over the world 803 00:42:39,005 --> 00:42:42,964 in positions of leadership and power and influence 804 00:42:43,047 --> 00:42:45,881 to take this education, to learn value, 805 00:42:45,964 --> 00:42:48,047 and learn to be humans. 806 00:42:48,130 --> 00:42:51,297 And then change companies and change governments. 807 00:42:51,381 --> 00:42:55,506 We should be building ethicists. 808 00:42:55,589 --> 00:42:58,714 People are gonna elect ethicists to be President. 809 00:42:58,798 --> 00:43:00,756 And he would say, we first have to reach 810 00:43:00,839 --> 00:43:02,798 the people that run the motor of the world, 811 00:43:02,881 --> 00:43:04,506 to use Ayn Rand's term. 812 00:43:04,589 --> 00:43:06,589 We need the people that run the motor. 813 00:43:06,673 --> 00:43:11,881 You know, Mark and I kind of brought Hollywood to ESP, and... 814 00:43:12,005 --> 00:43:16,089 I wasn't famous in that world, but in this case, I was the... 815 00:43:16,172 --> 00:43:19,339 entry point, with Mark, to that world. 816 00:43:21,547 --> 00:43:23,255 Basically, what happened is 817 00:43:23,339 --> 00:43:26,339 Sarah and I had started, like, enrolling all the celebrities. 818 00:43:26,422 --> 00:43:30,255 Richard Branson let us host an intensive on Necker Island. 819 00:43:30,339 --> 00:43:33,172 We had Catherine Oxenberg, the star of the TV show "Dynasty," 820 00:43:33,255 --> 00:43:35,214 take classes with her daughter, India. 821 00:43:35,297 --> 00:43:38,047 I spent most of my time working on strategy. 822 00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:40,005 Sarah said she wanted to talk to, like, 823 00:43:40,089 --> 00:43:41,923 as many people as possible. 824 00:43:42,005 --> 00:43:44,631 Sometimes people can surprise you. 825 00:43:45,923 --> 00:43:47,422 I think it's kind of cool. 826 00:43:47,506 --> 00:43:50,422 I'm Kristin, as you know. Um, I'm excited to work with you guys, 827 00:43:50,506 --> 00:43:53,839 and I don't know what else to say. 828 00:43:54,964 --> 00:43:56,547 Romeo 1, Raptor 312. 829 00:43:56,631 --> 00:43:58,089 I'm back, and I brought a friend. 830 00:43:58,172 --> 00:44:01,255 If I were to describe Keith to someone who'd never met him, 831 00:44:01,339 --> 00:44:03,839 I would probably express 832 00:44:03,923 --> 00:44:06,964 almost how surprised I was how open he is. 833 00:44:07,047 --> 00:44:08,506 I hate this part. 834 00:44:10,089 --> 00:44:13,005 I struggle sometimes, a lot of times, 835 00:44:13,089 --> 00:44:14,631 to really push myself, 836 00:44:14,714 --> 00:44:17,631 and it's that. It's that extra push. 837 00:44:17,714 --> 00:44:19,464 It's that, you know, really 838 00:44:19,547 --> 00:44:22,381 owning what's important to me in my life. 839 00:44:24,005 --> 00:44:25,631 We have many, many people 840 00:44:25,714 --> 00:44:28,589 who have taken great values from our program 841 00:44:28,673 --> 00:44:30,631 and their association with us. 842 00:44:30,714 --> 00:44:33,422 Hello. My name is Emiliano Salinas. 843 00:44:33,506 --> 00:44:35,339 I come from a political family. 844 00:44:35,422 --> 00:44:37,339 My father was President of Mexico 845 00:44:37,422 --> 00:44:39,297 from 1988 to 1994, 846 00:44:39,381 --> 00:44:41,923 a time of tremendous transformation for my country, 847 00:44:42,005 --> 00:44:44,631 which inspired me to pursue a deeper understanding 848 00:44:44,714 --> 00:44:47,172 of human and social transformation. 849 00:44:47,255 --> 00:44:49,255 When I joined NXIVM, I found that 850 00:44:49,339 --> 00:44:52,047 it was already backed by two extremely wealthy women, 851 00:44:52,130 --> 00:44:54,089 Sara Bronfman and Clare Bronfman, 852 00:44:54,172 --> 00:44:56,589 who were the heiresses to the Seagram's empire. 853 00:44:56,673 --> 00:45:00,089 Sara and Clare went out looking for powerful people. 854 00:45:01,589 --> 00:45:03,673 I grew up with resources, 855 00:45:03,756 --> 00:45:05,255 and it was very scary for me to know 856 00:45:05,339 --> 00:45:08,631 how to best use those resources in the world to do good things. 857 00:45:08,714 --> 00:45:12,172 And it was Sara that actually arranged for the Dalai Lama 858 00:45:12,255 --> 00:45:13,547 to come to Albany. 859 00:45:13,631 --> 00:45:16,422 It was a very big deal that the Dalai Lama was coming, 860 00:45:16,506 --> 00:45:18,464 'cause he was endorsing NXIVM. 861 00:45:18,547 --> 00:45:20,756 It is my moral responsibility 862 00:45:20,839 --> 00:45:23,214 to support any movement 863 00:45:23,297 --> 00:45:25,673 who are working for ethics. 864 00:45:25,756 --> 00:45:27,673 That was, I mean, mind-blowing, 865 00:45:27,756 --> 00:45:30,172 the possibility of what could happen with that. 866 00:45:30,964 --> 00:45:32,673 Never found in my life 867 00:45:32,756 --> 00:45:34,839 a place where you can meet amazing individuals 868 00:45:34,923 --> 00:45:37,923 that, like me, are looking to create a better world. 869 00:45:38,005 --> 00:45:40,339 This was something, that, it was in my heart, always, 870 00:45:40,422 --> 00:45:42,047 you know, that, "How do I do better?" 871 00:45:42,130 --> 00:45:44,881 Before, I felt this kind of ongoing stress. 872 00:45:44,964 --> 00:45:48,381 I was constantly working, and I felt like I was just scrambling all the time. 873 00:45:48,464 --> 00:45:50,881 It was Harvard Business School. I thought you couldn't get better than that. 874 00:45:50,964 --> 00:45:53,673 I was never any better than that of my next job. 875 00:45:53,756 --> 00:45:56,005 A lot of people that I know were facing that. 876 00:45:56,089 --> 00:45:57,422 A lot of women, in particular. 877 00:45:57,506 --> 00:45:59,589 What if it doesn't have to be that way? 878 00:45:59,673 --> 00:46:01,923 I felt like I was finding it all. 879 00:46:02,005 --> 00:46:04,047 Meaning... 880 00:46:04,130 --> 00:46:06,756 Community... 881 00:46:06,839 --> 00:46:10,005 Oh, this is the family, this is the group of people 882 00:46:10,089 --> 00:46:11,756 that I've been looking for my whole life 883 00:46:11,839 --> 00:46:13,506 that actually are gonna have impact. 884 00:46:14,422 --> 00:46:15,589 - Hi! - Hey! 885 00:46:15,673 --> 00:46:18,255 This actually helps you, so that you can build love. 886 00:46:18,339 --> 00:46:20,673 And I think that's the most valuable thing. 887 00:46:20,756 --> 00:46:22,464 That, that changes the world. 888 00:46:22,547 --> 00:46:23,964 There's another way to live. 889 00:46:24,047 --> 00:46:25,255 There's another way to relate. 890 00:46:25,339 --> 00:46:27,255 So when you can get tools that allow you to do that, 891 00:46:27,339 --> 00:46:28,964 that's worth everything. 892 00:46:29,047 --> 00:46:30,464 When I first came to ESP, 893 00:46:30,547 --> 00:46:32,881 I had, on the surface, something 894 00:46:32,964 --> 00:46:35,923 that seemed to be, like, the perfect life, or a pretty good life. 895 00:46:36,005 --> 00:46:39,339 Like, superficially, materialistically, I was very successful. 896 00:46:40,464 --> 00:46:42,172 Um... 897 00:46:42,547 --> 00:46:44,172 Allie Mack. 898 00:46:44,255 --> 00:46:46,130 I remember when she did our first training, 899 00:46:46,214 --> 00:46:48,172 and then she hopped on a plane and went right back 900 00:46:48,255 --> 00:46:50,714 after the training with Nancy and Lauren to meet Keith. 901 00:46:50,798 --> 00:46:52,881 I think that was pretty... 902 00:46:52,964 --> 00:46:54,297 exciting for the company. 903 00:46:54,381 --> 00:46:56,339 I mean, she was... She had her own show, 904 00:46:56,422 --> 00:46:59,130 and she had a little following of young women 905 00:46:59,214 --> 00:47:00,464 who looked up to her. 906 00:47:00,547 --> 00:47:01,547 - Hi. - Hey. 907 00:47:01,631 --> 00:47:03,255 - You know me. - You... 908 00:47:03,339 --> 00:47:05,464 You know me. Um, I'm Allison. 909 00:47:05,547 --> 00:47:08,381 I've been an actress since I was four years old, 910 00:47:08,464 --> 00:47:09,881 and I moved here from New York City, 911 00:47:09,964 --> 00:47:12,214 and really, my pursuit in ESP 912 00:47:12,297 --> 00:47:14,214 has been one really about my relationships. 913 00:47:14,297 --> 00:47:17,089 I wanted to be this, like, loving, compassionate woman 914 00:47:17,172 --> 00:47:20,089 that I played on TV, and, like, have all these noble characteristics 915 00:47:20,172 --> 00:47:22,798 that I did really well when I had a script in front of me. 916 00:47:24,506 --> 00:47:27,339 Allison was the life of the party. 917 00:47:27,422 --> 00:47:30,005 We would talk about art and movies, 918 00:47:30,089 --> 00:47:32,839 and creating this community of artists. 919 00:47:32,923 --> 00:47:35,005 And the house that we all moved into, 920 00:47:35,089 --> 00:47:38,297 the townhouse, which was three floors, was, was to be that. 921 00:47:38,381 --> 00:47:40,339 You know, it was, top floor was me and Bonnie, 922 00:47:40,422 --> 00:47:43,047 she was in the middle floor, and in the basement was like, you know, 923 00:47:43,130 --> 00:47:46,297 screening room and the editing rooms, and all... It was great. 924 00:47:48,005 --> 00:47:50,464 I had this dream, as well, of like, 925 00:47:50,547 --> 00:47:52,172 okay, it's great to just have ESP, 926 00:47:52,255 --> 00:47:54,964 but we need different things for different people. 927 00:47:55,047 --> 00:47:56,506 As the years go by, 928 00:47:56,589 --> 00:47:59,005 you know, we have individual companies 929 00:47:59,089 --> 00:48:00,339 that people are starting up. 930 00:48:00,422 --> 00:48:02,214 When you came into the organization, 931 00:48:02,297 --> 00:48:04,547 ESP was generally the gateway. 932 00:48:04,631 --> 00:48:07,756 And then there was this whole, a whole entire civilization. 933 00:48:09,923 --> 00:48:13,631 You know, we have Jness happening for women. 934 00:48:13,714 --> 00:48:17,255 We were probably six or seven years into ESP 935 00:48:17,339 --> 00:48:18,714 when Jness came around. 936 00:48:18,798 --> 00:48:20,923 Keith started talking about the fact that 937 00:48:21,005 --> 00:48:22,881 the women could change the world. 938 00:48:22,964 --> 00:48:25,673 I put on the very first women's only Jness training in 2006. 939 00:48:25,756 --> 00:48:28,381 There was about 40 or 50 women in that training. 940 00:48:28,464 --> 00:48:30,798 And I loved it. I thought, I thought it was beautiful. 941 00:48:30,881 --> 00:48:32,089 I thought it was great. 942 00:48:32,172 --> 00:48:34,964 We have SOP happening for men. 943 00:48:35,047 --> 00:48:38,339 Can you imagine a close-knit team of reliable men 944 00:48:38,422 --> 00:48:41,964 working together to have better lives, and a better world. 945 00:48:42,047 --> 00:48:44,422 You know, if you wanted to work on your body, 946 00:48:44,506 --> 00:48:46,255 on fitness, there was exo/eso. 947 00:48:46,339 --> 00:48:49,464 Exo/eso is what Bonnie started with five other women. 948 00:48:49,547 --> 00:48:51,130 It was like a yoga class. 949 00:48:51,214 --> 00:48:53,923 I felt like that was more closer to my purpose 950 00:48:54,005 --> 00:48:56,255 of, like, a performing arts technique, 951 00:48:56,339 --> 00:48:58,589 and tools to help actors and singers 952 00:48:58,673 --> 00:49:01,547 and all these things, so I was really excited about that. 953 00:49:01,631 --> 00:49:03,089 If you wanted to work on 954 00:49:03,172 --> 00:49:05,506 performance and public speaking, there was The Source. 955 00:49:05,589 --> 00:49:08,047 Hi. I'm Allison Mack and I'm the president of The Source. 956 00:49:08,130 --> 00:49:11,130 Don't worry if you feel like, "I'm not an actor. What am I doing here?" 957 00:49:11,214 --> 00:49:14,422 'Cause this is really a study of compassion, empathy. 958 00:49:14,506 --> 00:49:16,589 Your whole being is gonna change. 959 00:49:16,673 --> 00:49:18,756 We have Rainbow Cultural Garden, 960 00:49:18,839 --> 00:49:20,339 a daycare program for children 961 00:49:20,422 --> 00:49:23,964 where they're taught multiple languages from an early age. 962 00:49:31,547 --> 00:49:33,714 There's just this array of stuff happening, 963 00:49:33,798 --> 00:49:36,547 so it's like an empire. 964 00:49:38,339 --> 00:49:40,464 So when people say, like, "How did you spend 12 years?" 965 00:49:40,547 --> 00:49:43,089 Because there was a lot of shit to work on. 966 00:49:43,172 --> 00:49:45,673 I had a vision and, and Mark and I, 967 00:49:45,756 --> 00:49:47,756 you know, have been talking about this from the beginning, 968 00:49:47,839 --> 00:49:48,714 of creating a center. 969 00:49:48,798 --> 00:49:50,964 That was, that was our dream. 970 00:49:51,047 --> 00:49:53,589 When I come into ESP in 2005, 971 00:49:53,673 --> 00:49:55,881 there's a center in Albany, 972 00:49:55,964 --> 00:49:58,756 there's a center in Saratoga Springs, 973 00:49:58,839 --> 00:50:00,714 and there's the center in Seattle. 974 00:50:00,798 --> 00:50:03,839 And as the years ago by, there's all this growth that happens. 975 00:50:03,923 --> 00:50:06,089 New York City center opens. 976 00:50:06,172 --> 00:50:08,089 Orange County is wanting to have a center. 977 00:50:08,172 --> 00:50:10,589 LA has a center. San Francisco's building a center. 978 00:50:10,673 --> 00:50:12,381 Miami, we're working on having a center. 979 00:50:12,464 --> 00:50:14,798 London, we're working on having a center. 980 00:50:14,881 --> 00:50:17,255 Then we have Mexico City center opens. 981 00:50:17,339 --> 00:50:20,506 Guadalajara opens. Monterrey opens. Leon opens. 982 00:50:20,589 --> 00:50:24,339 And pretty much the entire Mexican ESP community began. 983 00:50:29,422 --> 00:50:31,964 And everybody wants to open the next center. 984 00:50:33,255 --> 00:50:35,673 And then I got asked to be on the executive board. 985 00:50:35,756 --> 00:50:38,798 "Now you can open centers." And I'm like, "This is great!" 986 00:50:38,881 --> 00:50:41,297 I call Sarah up and I say, "We're doing it." 987 00:50:41,381 --> 00:50:42,673 - Oh, my God! - Ready? Ready? 988 00:50:42,756 --> 00:50:44,172 - Yeah. - Here we go. 989 00:50:44,255 --> 00:50:46,464 This could not have been built 990 00:50:46,547 --> 00:50:50,506 had, um, Prefect Nancy Salzman not existed. 991 00:50:50,589 --> 00:50:52,089 And had Vanguard not existed. 992 00:50:52,172 --> 00:50:53,547 So, know that we are... 993 00:50:53,631 --> 00:50:55,547 We are standing on the shoulders of giants. 994 00:50:58,422 --> 00:51:01,381 I just want to say something. This is so cool. 995 00:51:01,464 --> 00:51:04,798 Being here is so much fun for me. 996 00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:08,631 I have nothing but... 997 00:51:08,714 --> 00:51:11,964 the highest esteem for Mark Vicente. 998 00:51:12,047 --> 00:51:13,881 And I know that you know that. 999 00:51:13,964 --> 00:51:15,214 I mean, I hope that you know that. 1000 00:51:15,297 --> 00:51:17,923 He's one of my dearest friends in the entire world. 1001 00:51:18,005 --> 00:51:20,214 And so it's just a real joy for me 1002 00:51:20,297 --> 00:51:22,714 to support you, 1003 00:51:22,798 --> 00:51:25,673 and to support you... 1004 00:51:25,756 --> 00:51:27,547 Proctor Edmondson. 1005 00:51:27,631 --> 00:51:29,255 I have said in the past 1006 00:51:29,339 --> 00:51:31,714 if I had a couple more teams like this, 1007 00:51:31,798 --> 00:51:34,839 I know I could change the entire world. 1008 00:51:34,923 --> 00:51:36,297 I worked for a company 1009 00:51:36,381 --> 00:51:40,214 that had practices that were not traditional. 1010 00:51:40,297 --> 00:51:41,798 But everything made sense 1011 00:51:41,881 --> 00:51:44,047 once you understood the meaning and what the purpose was. 1012 00:51:44,130 --> 00:51:46,756 And that company was teaching ethics, 1013 00:51:46,839 --> 00:51:50,756 and human potential, and professional development. 1014 00:51:50,839 --> 00:51:53,255 - Bonnie and I went to Keith. - Okay, ask me. 1015 00:51:53,339 --> 00:51:56,130 And we basically said, "We're gonna get married." 1016 00:51:56,214 --> 00:51:59,422 And so we're trying to figure out, like, how would we craft our vows? 1017 00:52:01,923 --> 00:52:03,547 This will help. 1018 00:52:15,047 --> 00:52:18,381 I think he actually suggested that he could write the vows. 1019 00:52:37,255 --> 00:52:39,381 Do you understand? 1020 00:52:51,631 --> 00:52:53,881 It was pretty much only NXIVM at the wedding, 1021 00:52:53,964 --> 00:52:56,923 other than, uh, Bonnie's mom. 1022 00:53:03,881 --> 00:53:07,881 We realized later we'd never had a honeymoon. 1023 00:53:23,673 --> 00:53:26,047 It always gets me by surprise. 1024 00:53:31,089 --> 00:53:33,923 I feel like my life with Bonnie was stolen. 1025 00:53:35,130 --> 00:53:38,297 And I wanna have that life. I wanna get it back. 1026 00:53:42,589 --> 00:53:44,172 Bonnie got there first. 1027 00:53:47,798 --> 00:53:49,798 It took me longer. 1028 00:55:55,923 --> 00:55:57,631 Keith used to teach some of us that 1029 00:55:57,714 --> 00:55:59,255 on the path to enlightenment, 1030 00:55:59,339 --> 00:56:01,547 you'd reach this barren wasteland, 1031 00:56:01,631 --> 00:56:04,130 just space of nothing, before you find this... 1032 00:56:04,756 --> 00:56:05,798 ultimate joy. 1033 00:56:07,297 --> 00:56:09,297 I'm having a number of flashbacks. 1034 00:56:10,130 --> 00:56:11,255 That only seem bad to me. 1035 00:56:11,464 --> 00:56:15,130 Transition to the feeling of suffering. 1036 00:56:15,214 --> 00:56:17,422 My body was starting to fall apart. 1037 00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:19,172 Freedom's not gonna happen 1038 00:56:19,255 --> 00:56:20,172 in the monastery. 1039 00:56:20,464 --> 00:56:22,255 Well, it's not in a monastery. 1040 00:56:22,964 --> 00:56:24,089 It is a prison. 1041 00:56:24,964 --> 00:56:25,881 So you're gonna have to do 1042 00:56:25,964 --> 00:56:27,589 that part of your life without me. 1043 00:56:30,964 --> 00:56:31,964 There's no way out. 1044 00:56:32,464 --> 00:56:35,756 It was like, there was a crack in the dam. 82410

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