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Hey, where are you, man? 14 00:00:42,643 --> 00:00:44,612 Are you off on the moon somewhere? An Apollo mission? 15 00:00:44,645 --> 00:00:47,115 Hey, listen, I'm really pissed off. 16 00:00:47,148 --> 00:00:49,117 P-I-S-S-E-D. 17 00:00:49,150 --> 00:00:50,784 I got some free time now, you know me. 18 00:00:50,818 --> 00:00:52,019 I have more free time than money. 19 00:00:52,052 --> 00:00:54,188 Try to give me a call back as soon as you can. 20 00:00:54,222 --> 00:00:55,423 Call me back if you can. 21 00:00:55,456 --> 00:00:57,057 So, give me a call back anytime... 22 00:00:57,091 --> 00:01:00,161 It's not gonna be that big a chunk of time in your life. 23 00:01:03,397 --> 00:01:07,501 [Alex Bertulis] Fred Beckey is an enigma. 24 00:01:09,803 --> 00:01:12,740 There'll be Freudian psychologists 25 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:14,508 that will analyze him 26 00:01:14,542 --> 00:01:18,579 long after he's gone to the next world. 27 00:01:18,612 --> 00:01:21,515 [Yvon Chouinard] He's totally obsessive. That's who Fred is. 28 00:01:21,549 --> 00:01:25,819 You know, obsessive behavior can lead to absolute genius. 29 00:01:25,853 --> 00:01:28,489 [Corey Rich] There is so many urban myths and legends 30 00:01:28,522 --> 00:01:33,561 that surround who Fred Beckey really is. 31 00:01:33,594 --> 00:01:36,130 [Steve Marts] He was driven like no man I've ever met, 32 00:01:36,164 --> 00:01:38,031 relentlessly. 33 00:01:38,065 --> 00:01:40,334 [Eric Bjornstad] One track mind most of the time. 34 00:01:40,368 --> 00:01:42,470 If it wasn't on women, it was on climbing. [chuckles] 35 00:01:42,503 --> 00:01:44,438 [Conrad Anker] Fred chose this other lifestyle. 36 00:01:44,472 --> 00:01:46,140 [Barry Blanchard] He created his own culture. 37 00:01:46,174 --> 00:01:47,708 He became a culture of one. 38 00:01:47,741 --> 00:01:49,477 [Allen Huxley] I suppose you could say he's like 39 00:01:49,510 --> 00:01:52,313 the Bob Dylan of mountain climbing. 40 00:01:52,346 --> 00:01:53,614 All these great achievements, 41 00:01:53,647 --> 00:01:55,783 but completely inscrutable, 42 00:01:55,816 --> 00:01:59,187 and no one's really sure if they even like him or not. 43 00:01:59,220 --> 00:02:00,888 [Yvon Chouinard] He's a dirtbag, 44 00:02:00,921 --> 00:02:03,324 and because of that, I don't think he'll get 45 00:02:03,357 --> 00:02:06,460 the recognition that he really deserves. 46 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:11,265 [music playing] 47 00:02:36,089 --> 00:02:39,727 [Fred] I don't even really know what motivates a person to climb. 48 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,330 To me, it's some kind of a combination of adventure 49 00:02:42,363 --> 00:02:44,765 that has a certain amount of risk, 50 00:02:44,798 --> 00:02:46,634 depending on other people. 51 00:02:46,667 --> 00:02:50,571 Almost any climb has some uncertainty. 52 00:02:50,604 --> 00:02:54,141 You never know, there could be a rock fall, an avalanche, 53 00:02:54,174 --> 00:02:55,476 somebody could get hurt. 54 00:02:55,509 --> 00:02:58,979 So there's certain amount of adventure. 55 00:02:59,012 --> 00:03:00,581 I mean, some people may think it's an adventure 56 00:03:00,614 --> 00:03:02,716 to go on a cruise ship to the Mediterranean 57 00:03:02,750 --> 00:03:05,653 and that's great if they wanna do that. 58 00:03:05,686 --> 00:03:10,224 To me, it's no adventure at all unless somebody bombs the ship. 59 00:03:13,427 --> 00:03:16,330 You know, good climbing today. Good climbing. 60 00:03:16,364 --> 00:03:18,599 Yeah, I enjoyed it. Pretty good. 61 00:03:18,632 --> 00:03:21,068 Hope I didn't fuck you guys' movies up. 62 00:03:21,101 --> 00:03:22,703 [Todd Offenbacher] Is there anything more important 63 00:03:22,736 --> 00:03:24,137 to you than climbing? 64 00:03:24,171 --> 00:03:25,439 It's hard to say. It's hard to say. 65 00:03:25,473 --> 00:03:28,242 I like to write and accomplish something. 66 00:03:28,276 --> 00:03:29,777 I should have brought a pencil with an eraser. 67 00:03:29,810 --> 00:03:32,513 That was a fuck-up. I should know better. 68 00:03:32,546 --> 00:03:34,482 [Todd Offenbacher] How is it that you can climb 69 00:03:34,515 --> 00:03:35,416 as well as you do still? 70 00:03:35,449 --> 00:03:37,451 Really, what's the secret? 71 00:03:37,485 --> 00:03:40,821 [Fred] I don't know, I don't think I have any. I don't know. 72 00:03:40,854 --> 00:03:42,189 I don't take vitamins, 73 00:03:42,222 --> 00:03:44,124 and I am not a health food addict. 74 00:03:44,157 --> 00:03:46,226 I just try to keep active. 75 00:03:48,396 --> 00:03:50,631 I was drawn to Beckey in my book The Good Rain 76 00:03:50,664 --> 00:03:54,101 because he's a mythic figure. 77 00:03:56,670 --> 00:03:58,038 There are very few mountains left in the world 78 00:03:58,071 --> 00:04:00,107 that nobody's ever climbed. 79 00:04:00,140 --> 00:04:03,444 And in the climbing world to be credited with a first ascent, 80 00:04:03,477 --> 00:04:05,479 being the first human being to climb a mountain, 81 00:04:05,513 --> 00:04:07,515 is considered quite a big deal. 82 00:04:09,149 --> 00:04:11,151 [Barry Blanchard] It's hard to imagine anyone in North America 83 00:04:11,785 --> 00:04:13,421 starting to do any form of climbing 84 00:04:13,454 --> 00:04:15,689 and soon not hear about Fred Beckey. 85 00:04:15,723 --> 00:04:17,491 [Royal Robbins] His name is everywhere. 86 00:04:17,525 --> 00:04:19,360 This is the guy from Pacific Northwest, 87 00:04:19,393 --> 00:04:21,094 and he climbed all over the United States, 88 00:04:21,128 --> 00:04:22,430 in Europe, in Canada. 89 00:04:22,463 --> 00:04:24,732 He was there before the rest of us were. 90 00:04:24,765 --> 00:04:27,200 [Yvon] Certainly no person in the history of climbing 91 00:04:27,234 --> 00:04:29,403 has ever amassed so many first ascents. 92 00:04:29,437 --> 00:04:33,106 [Conrad] What makes Fred special in my book 93 00:04:33,140 --> 00:04:35,409 is his unending quest 94 00:04:35,443 --> 00:04:39,246 for new routes to do something unexplored. 95 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,615 [Timothy] His contemporaries, say in the 1950s or the 1960s, 96 00:04:41,649 --> 00:04:44,618 those people ended up on the cover of Life magazine. 97 00:04:44,652 --> 00:04:47,621 That to me has been one of the great mysteries: 98 00:04:47,655 --> 00:04:51,124 Why did the best climber of all never go on to the greatness 99 00:04:51,158 --> 00:04:53,226 that they all did? 100 00:04:55,496 --> 00:04:57,731 [birds chirping] 101 00:04:59,467 --> 00:05:02,135 [music playing] 102 00:05:02,169 --> 00:05:03,337 He is the ultimate dirtbag. 103 00:05:03,371 --> 00:05:06,507 He was the first dirtbag I ever knew, 104 00:05:06,540 --> 00:05:09,643 and, you know, we all became dirtbags eventually, 105 00:05:09,677 --> 00:05:11,612 but he was the leader. 106 00:05:16,784 --> 00:05:19,052 [Eric] Because he climbed so much, 107 00:05:19,086 --> 00:05:21,121 he didn't ever work at a job, 108 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:22,322 like nine-to-five, you know, 109 00:05:22,356 --> 00:05:25,258 five days a week, like most people. 110 00:05:26,860 --> 00:05:29,530 [Alex] In the Alps, there was a tradition of dressing up 111 00:05:30,097 --> 00:05:32,533 formally for alpine climbing, 112 00:05:32,566 --> 00:05:36,303 and Fred, he looked like somebody that just came out of 113 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:40,808 a homeless shelter or someplace. 114 00:05:40,841 --> 00:05:42,209 He had his own style, 115 00:05:42,242 --> 00:05:44,712 there's no doubt about that. He was different. 116 00:05:44,745 --> 00:05:47,114 [Ed Cooper] He had a pink Thunderbird, 117 00:05:47,147 --> 00:05:50,250 and we all wondered what kind of vehicle is that 118 00:05:50,283 --> 00:05:52,786 to load climbing gear into. We couldn't understand it. 119 00:05:52,820 --> 00:05:55,322 [Alex] That T-bird did not give him good mileage, 120 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:57,625 but it got a lot of laughs. 121 00:05:57,658 --> 00:06:01,529 And of course, it was the ultimate pick-up car for women. 122 00:06:03,296 --> 00:06:06,099 [Fred] I just bought the car on a whim as of kind of a joke. 123 00:06:06,133 --> 00:06:07,167 It was a good road car, actually, 124 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,702 but a little bit of a gas eater, 125 00:06:08,736 --> 00:06:10,303 and I drove it all over the country. 126 00:06:10,337 --> 00:06:14,174 Must have put a hundred thousand miles on it. 127 00:06:14,207 --> 00:06:15,476 [Barry] We have a whole culture 128 00:06:15,509 --> 00:06:18,278 of dirtbagism and road tripping in North America, 129 00:06:18,311 --> 00:06:20,514 and Fred's the grandfather of it. 130 00:06:20,548 --> 00:06:23,350 He's the grandfather of the road trip. 131 00:06:24,752 --> 00:06:27,154 [Ed Cooper] The legends about him driving 132 00:06:27,187 --> 00:06:30,791 halfway across the Western Continent, you know, 133 00:06:30,824 --> 00:06:32,560 to do a pinnacle in Arizona 134 00:06:32,593 --> 00:06:34,462 and then to do some climbing in British Columbia, 135 00:06:34,495 --> 00:06:36,530 and then go back to Montana for another climb, 136 00:06:36,564 --> 00:06:37,665 those were all true. 137 00:06:37,698 --> 00:06:40,333 That's what he did. 138 00:06:40,367 --> 00:06:43,403 You know, a lot of people, a climbing trip is two weeks, 139 00:06:43,437 --> 00:06:45,205 Fred would start off in spring, 140 00:06:45,238 --> 00:06:48,308 climb through the summer in the mountains 141 00:06:48,341 --> 00:06:49,577 and the high peaks, 142 00:06:49,610 --> 00:06:51,111 Wind Rivers and the places 143 00:06:51,144 --> 00:06:54,014 and then, in the fall, wind up in the desert. 144 00:06:54,047 --> 00:06:57,150 [Steve Gunn] * There's a constant motion 145 00:06:57,184 --> 00:07:02,155 * Makes you feel like the ocean * 146 00:07:02,189 --> 00:07:08,596 * Moving through the seasons and I'm hoping for the best * 147 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:11,164 [Eric] He's just so restless, 148 00:07:11,198 --> 00:07:13,333 always living out of his car. 149 00:07:13,366 --> 00:07:16,537 His second home, for a while, was my basement. 150 00:07:16,570 --> 00:07:19,406 [Barry] Climbing actually doesn't cost that much money, 151 00:07:19,439 --> 00:07:20,708 especially the way Fred plays it, 152 00:07:20,741 --> 00:07:23,076 it doesn't have to be that expensive. 153 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:26,213 Food is really available in North America 154 00:07:26,246 --> 00:07:28,148 if you know where to look for it. [laughs] 155 00:07:29,349 --> 00:07:30,651 [Yvon] You know, he'd go to restaurants, 156 00:07:30,684 --> 00:07:33,286 and he'd pick up 10 packages of ketchup 157 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,556 and sugar and stuff 'em away. 158 00:07:35,589 --> 00:07:39,560 Make up the eggs, put a little McDonald's sugar in here. 159 00:07:39,593 --> 00:07:42,295 -Breakfast sandwich. -Nice. 160 00:07:42,329 --> 00:07:44,131 [Todd] All of us, kind of, look at Fred going, 161 00:07:44,164 --> 00:07:45,599 "God, how can we get a piece of that. 162 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:47,968 How can we get that Fountain of Youth 163 00:07:48,001 --> 00:07:49,570 that lies within Fred Beckey." 164 00:07:49,603 --> 00:07:52,773 I don't really know what it is other than just his spirit 165 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:54,341 and his mindset 166 00:07:54,374 --> 00:07:56,510 because if you watch him eat, 167 00:07:56,544 --> 00:07:57,711 he eats like shit. 168 00:07:57,745 --> 00:07:59,079 He eats tons of fast food. 169 00:07:59,112 --> 00:08:00,581 He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke. 170 00:08:00,614 --> 00:08:03,283 but he'll hang onto a piece of food for weeks, 171 00:08:03,316 --> 00:08:05,352 and pull it out of his backpack and eat it. 172 00:08:05,385 --> 00:08:07,588 I got some cream cheese that I swiped somewhere 173 00:08:07,621 --> 00:08:10,624 and still... it's edible. 174 00:08:10,658 --> 00:08:11,825 I remember driving with him 175 00:08:11,859 --> 00:08:13,794 in the car on a road trip somewhere, 176 00:08:13,827 --> 00:08:16,063 and I took that empty McDonald's coffee cup 177 00:08:16,096 --> 00:08:17,397 and threw it away, 178 00:08:17,430 --> 00:08:19,533 and real quickly Fred started questioning me, 179 00:08:19,567 --> 00:08:22,269 you know, "Have you seen my cup? I had a cup around here." 180 00:08:22,302 --> 00:08:24,237 He proceeded for the next five hours to look for the cup, 181 00:08:24,271 --> 00:08:26,139 talk about the cup, bitch about the cup, 182 00:08:26,173 --> 00:08:30,477 "At McDonald's, you get free refills with an empty coffee cup. 183 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:32,079 he'd been hanging on to the cup for, who knows, 184 00:08:32,112 --> 00:08:34,548 probably most of the summer. 185 00:08:34,582 --> 00:08:37,517 [Yvon] Fred had this sport coat that he bought for 25 cents. 186 00:08:37,551 --> 00:08:39,687 He stuffed pieces of this 187 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,056 Louis L'Amour novel that he was reading, 188 00:08:43,090 --> 00:08:44,424 stuffing it inside the liner-- 189 00:08:44,457 --> 00:08:47,460 made a down jacket out of it, basically. 190 00:08:47,494 --> 00:08:49,763 He bivouacked in that, and then the next morning, 191 00:08:49,797 --> 00:08:54,267 burned the thing to heat up some tea. [laughs] 192 00:08:54,301 --> 00:08:57,437 He is the ultimate, the consummate dirtbag. 193 00:08:57,470 --> 00:09:00,708 You know, living as unobtrusively 194 00:09:00,741 --> 00:09:03,143 on the edge of society, 195 00:09:03,176 --> 00:09:04,712 as is possible for human to do. 196 00:09:04,745 --> 00:09:06,446 And to still have a focus on something. 197 00:09:06,479 --> 00:09:10,117 He was not a druggie or drunk, or anything like that. 198 00:09:10,150 --> 00:09:14,321 He was an addict, but his addiction was climbing. 199 00:09:23,063 --> 00:09:25,298 [announcements on P.A.] 200 00:09:32,105 --> 00:09:34,307 [Todd] Once again Fred Beckey had a mountain 201 00:09:34,341 --> 00:09:36,710 that was unclimbed, scoped out. 202 00:09:36,744 --> 00:09:38,111 Now a lot of people said before the trip, 203 00:09:38,145 --> 00:09:39,613 you know, is he gonna be able to do it? 204 00:09:39,647 --> 00:09:40,848 What happens if Fred Beckey dies? 205 00:09:40,881 --> 00:09:42,349 And I think we all just kinda laughed and said, 206 00:09:42,382 --> 00:09:44,384 [Todd Offenbacher] "Fred's gonna do it with or without us." 207 00:09:44,417 --> 00:09:46,453 -[Fred] Where is this village? -[man] From Kanding. 208 00:09:46,486 --> 00:09:49,156 -It's around two hours... -[Fred] Down here. 209 00:09:52,492 --> 00:09:55,562 Of the unclimbed challenge, I think... 210 00:09:55,595 --> 00:09:58,799 you're looking at Pakistan, China, Greenland. 211 00:09:58,832 --> 00:10:03,370 China alone has just got a wealth of beautiful, 212 00:10:03,403 --> 00:10:07,040 unclimbed peaks in the 5000-, 6000-meter range. 213 00:10:07,074 --> 00:10:10,243 Hardly anybody knows about 'em. 214 00:10:14,147 --> 00:10:16,984 I think it's a thirty years dream. 215 00:10:17,017 --> 00:10:19,319 I cannot believe that Fred would come back now. 216 00:10:19,352 --> 00:10:21,154 He's eighty three years old. 217 00:10:24,357 --> 00:10:26,426 [birds chirping] 218 00:10:26,459 --> 00:10:32,032 -You recording all this? -[Todd laughs] 219 00:10:32,065 --> 00:10:35,068 Do you guys got some first-aid stuff? 220 00:10:35,102 --> 00:10:36,970 I do have a roll of duct tape. 221 00:10:37,004 --> 00:10:41,374 I got lunch food. I got... 222 00:10:41,408 --> 00:10:44,277 a lot of lemon powder. 223 00:10:44,311 --> 00:10:48,181 [Todd laughs] Lemon? All right... 224 00:10:50,684 --> 00:10:52,219 Anyone that's ever taken 225 00:10:52,252 --> 00:10:55,088 an international third world trip into the mountains, 226 00:10:55,122 --> 00:10:58,625 knows how brutal the travel can be. 227 00:10:58,658 --> 00:11:01,061 [horns honking] 228 00:11:01,094 --> 00:11:05,498 Are you excited to get into the mountains, Fred? 229 00:11:05,532 --> 00:11:07,667 If you get too excited, you wet your pants, you know? 230 00:11:07,701 --> 00:11:09,236 [Todd laughs] 231 00:11:17,277 --> 00:11:19,479 [David] How's your head feeling? 232 00:11:19,512 --> 00:11:21,114 It's OK. 233 00:11:22,415 --> 00:11:23,751 My thinking is that, 234 00:11:23,784 --> 00:11:25,886 we don't want to hurry it too much 235 00:11:25,919 --> 00:11:27,487 with the acclimatization. 236 00:11:33,526 --> 00:11:36,496 I think we are in a pretty comfortable spot at his point. 237 00:11:36,529 --> 00:11:38,732 He seems to be doing OK. 238 00:11:38,766 --> 00:11:42,335 And that's the goal, to get him as rested as possible 239 00:11:42,369 --> 00:11:44,671 because it's a big push. 240 00:11:55,715 --> 00:11:59,086 [Reinhold] It's boring to go to the mountains, 241 00:11:59,119 --> 00:12:01,154 from the fifth year of your life, 242 00:12:01,188 --> 00:12:03,056 up to the ninetieth year of your life. 243 00:12:03,090 --> 00:12:04,457 This is boring. 244 00:12:04,491 --> 00:12:06,059 I hope you're filming all this. 245 00:12:06,093 --> 00:12:08,261 [Timothy] Reinhold Messner is largely recognized 246 00:12:08,295 --> 00:12:09,729 as the best mountaineer ever, the guy who climbed 247 00:12:09,763 --> 00:12:11,698 every major peak without oxygen. 248 00:12:11,731 --> 00:12:14,067 And there's this climbing called "Alpine style," 249 00:12:14,101 --> 00:12:16,269 which is climbing quickly and without oxygen. 250 00:12:16,303 --> 00:12:17,737 and for that matter, 251 00:12:17,771 --> 00:12:20,073 without a supplemental expedition at your base. 252 00:12:20,107 --> 00:12:22,042 Beckey was doing that when he was in his teens and twenties, 253 00:12:22,075 --> 00:12:24,211 when everybody else was saying you need a group. 254 00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:27,214 His experiences and his climbs, 255 00:12:27,247 --> 00:12:30,450 I would say his ocean of what he did 256 00:12:30,483 --> 00:12:33,821 and what is in his soul is so big, 257 00:12:33,854 --> 00:12:36,623 that he could give away forever. 258 00:12:36,656 --> 00:12:39,192 Why he is going to China to hike up a mountain? 259 00:12:39,226 --> 00:12:40,727 It's not necessary anymore. 260 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,031 It's much more important, and much more intelligent, 261 00:12:44,064 --> 00:12:49,436 that he uses his last years to do something creative. 262 00:12:49,469 --> 00:12:51,271 [Todd] You think you can make it to the summit, Fred? 263 00:12:51,304 --> 00:12:52,672 On this trip? 264 00:12:52,705 --> 00:12:53,974 [Fred] I don't know, I hope so. 265 00:12:54,007 --> 00:12:56,176 [wind howling] 266 00:13:01,148 --> 00:13:03,250 [Ralph] Get some good sleep last night, Fred? 267 00:13:03,283 --> 00:13:06,053 -No. -[Ralph] No? 268 00:13:06,086 --> 00:13:09,622 At least the weather looks better. 269 00:13:09,656 --> 00:13:11,458 Right now, it stopped snowing. 270 00:13:11,491 --> 00:13:13,827 You can see the mountain, yeah. 271 00:13:13,861 --> 00:13:14,794 We've got a window of opportunity 272 00:13:14,828 --> 00:13:16,196 with the weather, it looks like. 273 00:13:16,229 --> 00:13:17,630 Yeah. 274 00:13:17,664 --> 00:13:19,032 Yeah, I hope it lasts. 275 00:13:19,066 --> 00:13:21,234 You think you want to go up tomorrow? 276 00:13:22,335 --> 00:13:24,804 [sighs] 277 00:13:36,716 --> 00:13:39,486 I haven't decided yet when I want to go up. 278 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:40,988 I'm just not sure I'm really, 279 00:13:41,021 --> 00:13:42,655 if I don't think I can keep up, I'm not gonna. 280 00:13:42,689 --> 00:13:44,424 There's no point to it. 281 00:13:45,859 --> 00:13:49,196 [Todd] Yeah, get some sleep today, get some rest. 282 00:13:50,563 --> 00:13:52,832 Seems like you're feeling better. 283 00:14:15,055 --> 00:14:16,689 -[Fred] Take your time up there. -[Dave O'Leske] All right. 284 00:14:16,723 --> 00:14:17,690 -OK. -OK. 285 00:14:17,724 --> 00:14:19,426 If we need an extra day, take it. 286 00:14:19,459 --> 00:14:23,430 [Todd] OK, Fred, we're gonna try and go early for the Summit. 287 00:14:23,463 --> 00:14:25,465 Just keep plugging away slow. 288 00:14:25,498 --> 00:14:28,068 -It's a hell of a job. -[beep] 289 00:14:28,101 --> 00:14:29,402 [Todd] It was sad that Fred 290 00:14:29,436 --> 00:14:31,304 couldn't get up there and climb with us, 291 00:14:31,338 --> 00:14:33,806 and do what he had done so many times before 292 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,608 in the mountains. 293 00:14:43,150 --> 00:14:49,056 [Helmy Beckey] Fred was born in Germany, 1923. 294 00:14:50,223 --> 00:14:53,260 Our parents came to the USA 295 00:14:53,293 --> 00:14:56,663 with my brother in 1924, 296 00:14:56,696 --> 00:15:01,568 a good 10 years before Adolf Hitler got into power. 297 00:15:01,601 --> 00:15:04,504 As kids, we were together all the time. 298 00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:06,173 That's my mother. 299 00:15:06,206 --> 00:15:08,108 and that's me in the middle, Helmy. 300 00:15:08,141 --> 00:15:09,476 And there's Fred, 301 00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:13,713 known at that time as Wolfgang or Wolf. 302 00:15:13,746 --> 00:15:15,615 The neighborhood kids kidded him around. 303 00:15:15,648 --> 00:15:18,785 they laughed at him because of his name, Wolf. 304 00:15:18,818 --> 00:15:22,189 And then he changed his name to Fred, 305 00:15:22,222 --> 00:15:26,693 because he didn't appreciate being laughed at. 306 00:15:26,726 --> 00:15:28,361 He went into the Boys Scouts, 307 00:15:28,395 --> 00:15:30,530 and they went hiking and climbing. 308 00:15:30,563 --> 00:15:33,300 [Fred] We did some small peaks in the Olympics. 309 00:15:33,333 --> 00:15:35,735 I liked it, I had a good time, I enjoyed it. 310 00:15:35,768 --> 00:15:38,238 I felt it was a lot more fun than doing any team sports 311 00:15:38,271 --> 00:15:39,472 and I kind of appealed to me. 312 00:15:39,506 --> 00:15:41,141 It was kind of fun. 313 00:15:41,174 --> 00:15:45,378 And I think just one thing led to another. 314 00:15:49,016 --> 00:15:51,551 [Wolf] There's a glacial boulder in Seattle, 315 00:15:51,584 --> 00:15:55,022 it has about six or seven climbing routes, 316 00:15:55,055 --> 00:15:58,525 and I started a little climbing class for the older boys. 317 00:15:58,558 --> 00:16:00,127 [music playing] 318 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,495 It was there that Fred and I struck up our friendship. 319 00:16:02,529 --> 00:16:07,234 By 1938, we were beginning to do climbs 320 00:16:07,267 --> 00:16:09,269 in the Cascades. 321 00:16:09,302 --> 00:16:12,572 [Fred] I met some people my own age who were taking the course, 322 00:16:12,605 --> 00:16:15,575 and we went on trips of our own. 323 00:16:31,958 --> 00:16:34,094 [Lowell Skoog] You started to see a new kind of mountaineering 324 00:16:34,127 --> 00:16:35,328 in the Northwest. 325 00:16:35,362 --> 00:16:38,198 Maybe three or four climbers going out on 326 00:16:38,231 --> 00:16:41,101 much more adventurous, remote trips 327 00:16:41,134 --> 00:16:43,370 than their predecessors had done, 328 00:16:43,403 --> 00:16:46,239 and really starting to explore 329 00:16:46,273 --> 00:16:49,109 all throughout the Northwest and in the Cascades, 330 00:16:49,142 --> 00:16:52,312 where Fred really devoted lot of his energy. 331 00:16:56,349 --> 00:16:59,119 [Jim Donini] The only real Alpine mountains, lower 48, 332 00:16:59,152 --> 00:17:00,420 are in the Pacific Northwest. 333 00:17:00,453 --> 00:17:02,822 So they had this playground, like a mini Himalaya, 334 00:17:02,855 --> 00:17:04,291 right in their backyard. 335 00:17:04,324 --> 00:17:06,559 When Fred started way back when, 336 00:17:06,593 --> 00:17:07,760 a lot of those beautiful peaks 337 00:17:07,794 --> 00:17:10,497 never had anybody on their summits. 338 00:17:12,732 --> 00:17:14,601 [Fred] The first... first ascent, 339 00:17:14,634 --> 00:17:16,436 we went to Mt. Despair. 340 00:17:18,071 --> 00:17:19,806 Probably, today's climbers 341 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:24,377 or even the most skilled ones don't have a real deep feeling 342 00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:28,047 of what it's like to try a route that nobody's ever been on. 343 00:17:31,351 --> 00:17:33,320 Fred was talking about his climbing 344 00:17:33,353 --> 00:17:35,122 and talking, talking, talking... 345 00:17:35,155 --> 00:17:39,292 and he dragged me along, you know. [laughs] 346 00:17:39,326 --> 00:17:43,430 1940, here's some pictures of the first ascent 347 00:17:43,463 --> 00:17:46,433 we made of Forbidden Peak. 348 00:17:46,466 --> 00:17:49,802 That was my first-first ascent. 349 00:17:49,836 --> 00:17:51,504 Scary... [laughs] 350 00:17:51,538 --> 00:17:53,406 Frightening. 351 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,807 [Dave] What did your parents think 352 00:17:54,841 --> 00:17:57,710 about you and Fred climbing? 353 00:17:57,744 --> 00:18:00,813 [Helmy] I don't think they knew how... 354 00:18:00,847 --> 00:18:04,050 dangerous things got sometimes, 355 00:18:04,083 --> 00:18:06,153 or how scary it was. 356 00:18:06,186 --> 00:18:08,455 I think they understood that there was some danger out there, 357 00:18:08,488 --> 00:18:10,557 but there wasn't much that they could do about it, 358 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:12,792 except forbid us to go, 359 00:18:12,825 --> 00:18:15,195 and that wouldn't have worked either. 360 00:18:15,228 --> 00:18:17,630 [Fred] Yeah, I probably am pretty independent, yeah. 361 00:18:17,664 --> 00:18:20,467 I don't think many kids 362 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:22,535 17 and 19 would take off for Mount Waddington 363 00:18:22,569 --> 00:18:24,971 when they're still in high school. 364 00:18:25,004 --> 00:18:26,739 Uh-uh. Uh-uh 365 00:18:29,509 --> 00:18:32,044 [Colin] That second ascent of Mt. Waddington 366 00:18:32,078 --> 00:18:33,446 which Fred and Helmy did 367 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,316 when they were 19 and 17 years old, 368 00:18:36,349 --> 00:18:38,618 that's a hard route today. It's probably been climbed 369 00:18:38,651 --> 00:18:42,355 less than 10 times total. 370 00:18:42,389 --> 00:18:46,893 [Nick Clinch] Waddington was a huge challenge for North American mountaineers. 371 00:18:46,926 --> 00:18:48,595 The best Sierra Club climbers went up there and tried it, 372 00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:50,330 and then it was finally done by Fritz Wiessner 373 00:18:50,363 --> 00:18:52,199 who was considered the leading climber 374 00:18:52,232 --> 00:18:53,466 in the United States. 375 00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:54,801 [Barry] It's mind-blowing to think 376 00:18:54,834 --> 00:18:57,370 that these two teenage boys from Seattle 377 00:18:57,404 --> 00:18:59,606 spent a month and a half 378 00:18:59,639 --> 00:19:03,142 in the absolute wilderness of British Columbia. 379 00:19:03,176 --> 00:19:05,077 [Fred] I still can't even remember 380 00:19:05,111 --> 00:19:06,313 how we put that together. 381 00:19:06,346 --> 00:19:08,515 We must have somewhere taken a bus 382 00:19:08,548 --> 00:19:10,417 out to a big grocery store, 383 00:19:10,450 --> 00:19:13,085 and bought all our groceries for six weeks. 384 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,687 That's a lot of groceries. 385 00:19:14,721 --> 00:19:17,023 [music playing] 386 00:19:17,056 --> 00:19:19,759 [Fred] We made a menu up, and then we repeated it. 387 00:19:19,792 --> 00:19:22,094 I had it all figured out, little squares. 388 00:19:22,128 --> 00:19:23,496 packed it up in cloth bags. 389 00:19:23,530 --> 00:19:25,031 So I got a cloth bag, 390 00:19:25,064 --> 00:19:27,600 you know there's everything you need for three days. 391 00:19:31,137 --> 00:19:33,240 We would never have gotten that trip off the ground 392 00:19:33,273 --> 00:19:36,108 if it hadn't been for Don Mundy and his wife. 393 00:19:36,142 --> 00:19:38,645 They set us up with a guy who had a fishing boat 394 00:19:38,678 --> 00:19:41,214 and he took us to the head of Knight Inlet, 395 00:19:41,248 --> 00:19:43,350 dropped us off. Adios. 396 00:19:43,383 --> 00:19:47,554 We spent, maybe, two weeks relaying back and forth loads. 397 00:19:47,587 --> 00:19:49,756 [Conrad] This is ferocious bushwhacking 398 00:19:49,789 --> 00:19:52,392 through coastal temperate forest 399 00:19:52,425 --> 00:19:55,595 with downfall the size of telephone poles. 400 00:19:55,628 --> 00:19:57,530 [Peter Croft] They've actually called Waddington 401 00:19:57,564 --> 00:19:59,232 the mystery mountain 402 00:19:59,266 --> 00:20:03,135 because for a long time it was a blank spot on the map. 403 00:20:03,169 --> 00:20:05,272 If it had gone horribly wrong, 404 00:20:05,305 --> 00:20:06,773 it's hard to say if they'd even ever be found. 405 00:20:06,806 --> 00:20:09,108 [Fred] I once fell into a crevasse. 406 00:20:09,141 --> 00:20:11,077 My brother essentially grabbed me by the collar 407 00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:12,812 and pulled me out. 408 00:20:12,845 --> 00:20:14,547 And that could have been the end of the trip, 409 00:20:14,581 --> 00:20:17,049 the end of more than the trip. 410 00:20:31,398 --> 00:20:34,367 [Helmy] At the very, very top Fred did the leading, you know. 411 00:20:34,401 --> 00:20:37,704 Right in where it's really hairy. 412 00:20:37,737 --> 00:20:40,239 Scared, frightened. 413 00:20:40,273 --> 00:20:43,410 I don't know about Fred. He never mentioned it to me. 414 00:20:43,443 --> 00:20:46,446 I was, "You just look down," you know. 415 00:20:46,479 --> 00:20:48,648 You just don't. 416 00:20:48,681 --> 00:20:52,218 [Fred] Spent the night essentially on the summit, a few feet below. 417 00:20:52,251 --> 00:20:55,355 Must have been shivering, all we had were sweaters. 418 00:20:55,388 --> 00:21:00,660 [Helmy] I had my 17th birthday on top of Waddington. 419 00:21:00,693 --> 00:21:04,397 "Hope we live through the night." 420 00:21:04,431 --> 00:21:07,534 We didn't sleep, we just... 421 00:21:07,567 --> 00:21:09,469 sweated it out, you know? 422 00:21:09,502 --> 00:21:11,604 Coming down was more dangerous than going up 423 00:21:11,638 --> 00:21:14,674 because we were coming down in the late afternoon, 424 00:21:14,707 --> 00:21:17,310 and by then, snow and ice on the ledges had loosened up, 425 00:21:17,344 --> 00:21:18,411 rocks were coming down. 426 00:21:18,445 --> 00:21:21,348 My brother got hit on the knee. 427 00:21:21,381 --> 00:21:24,417 [Helmy] God, that hurt like holy hell, I'll tell you. 428 00:21:24,451 --> 00:21:27,620 Thank God I didn't get hit on the head. 429 00:21:34,461 --> 00:21:36,529 [Barry] This is the second ascent of what was 430 00:21:36,563 --> 00:21:39,265 at that time the hardest Alpine climb in North America, 431 00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:41,701 and two teenage boys walk up, do that, 432 00:21:41,734 --> 00:21:44,136 and the whole world shifts. 433 00:21:44,170 --> 00:21:46,806 It sucks the feet out from under all the men 434 00:21:46,839 --> 00:21:48,908 because men are trying to do this thing. 435 00:21:54,581 --> 00:21:56,749 [Fred] We were a little bit surprised ourselves 436 00:21:56,783 --> 00:21:58,385 that we managed to pull it off. 437 00:21:58,418 --> 00:22:01,087 We got our pictures in the Seattle newspaper, that big. 438 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:02,655 Unless you rob a bank, 439 00:22:02,689 --> 00:22:05,825 it's kinda hard to get your picture in the paper. 440 00:22:05,858 --> 00:22:09,028 [Alex] During the early years, they were inseparable. 441 00:22:09,061 --> 00:22:12,432 It was during the epic Waddington expedition 442 00:22:12,465 --> 00:22:17,169 that Helmy sustained a rock fall on his knee. 443 00:22:17,203 --> 00:22:19,271 and injured it badly. 444 00:22:19,305 --> 00:22:23,643 Ever since then, Fred and Helmy drifted apart. 445 00:22:23,676 --> 00:22:26,413 Helmy ended up going to Europe 446 00:22:26,446 --> 00:22:29,115 and he became a successful opera singer. 447 00:22:29,148 --> 00:22:33,653 But once Helmy stopped climbing with Fred, 448 00:22:33,686 --> 00:22:39,492 Fred no longer took any interest in Helmy's life. 449 00:22:39,526 --> 00:22:43,195 They rarely saw each other. 450 00:22:43,229 --> 00:22:47,066 [Helmy] Our relationship deteriorated 451 00:22:47,099 --> 00:22:49,135 because he continued to climb, 452 00:22:49,168 --> 00:22:52,238 and I did not climb anymore. 453 00:22:54,306 --> 00:22:57,410 Forty-two, the war was on then. 454 00:22:57,444 --> 00:22:58,678 Fred had to go in the army. 455 00:22:58,711 --> 00:23:01,581 He was in the mountain troops. 456 00:23:01,614 --> 00:23:05,117 He was instructing climbers and skiers. 457 00:23:05,151 --> 00:23:07,920 He didn't have to go to Europe and fight. 458 00:23:07,954 --> 00:23:09,221 [Todd] What did you do in the army? 459 00:23:09,255 --> 00:23:10,623 -[Fred] Very little. -[Todd laughs] 460 00:23:10,657 --> 00:23:12,825 I was in the mountain training corps, 461 00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:14,360 taught snowshoeing. 462 00:23:14,393 --> 00:23:16,696 I don't know what there is to teach but... 463 00:23:16,729 --> 00:23:18,731 you know, you spend half the time freezing your butt off. 464 00:23:18,765 --> 00:23:21,768 I spent more time on the railroad than I did anywhere else, 465 00:23:21,801 --> 00:23:23,736 just going from place to place. 466 00:23:33,846 --> 00:23:37,149 [Bob] He was discharged before the division went overseas. 467 00:23:37,183 --> 00:23:39,486 I don't know whether it was a medical or what... 468 00:23:39,519 --> 00:23:41,320 [Dave] He never talked to you about that? 469 00:23:41,353 --> 00:23:43,189 Never talked about it. 470 00:23:43,222 --> 00:23:46,859 [Steve Gunn] * Night climb. Window 471 00:23:46,893 --> 00:23:50,530 * Down the water, ground below * 472 00:23:50,563 --> 00:23:54,366 * Whatchya doing, where you going * 473 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,570 * Where you end up when the morning comes? * 474 00:24:05,812 --> 00:24:09,148 [Fred] I think the next, I'll have to go through my cobwebs in my 475 00:24:09,181 --> 00:24:10,683 little peanut sized brain, 476 00:24:10,717 --> 00:24:13,119 the next biggest thing I did was to get together 477 00:24:13,152 --> 00:24:14,854 with Cliff Schmidtke and Bob Craig, 478 00:24:14,887 --> 00:24:18,124 and went to Kate's Needle and Devil's Thumb. 479 00:24:18,157 --> 00:24:22,394 [Bob] I think Fred had read somewhere in the Sierra Club Journal 480 00:24:22,428 --> 00:24:25,464 about this great mountain. 481 00:24:25,498 --> 00:24:27,567 I certainly didn't know about Devil's Thumb. 482 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,103 But Fred was an encyclopedia of available mountains 483 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:33,272 that hadn't been climbed. 484 00:24:36,075 --> 00:24:37,577 I was just out of the navy. 485 00:24:37,610 --> 00:24:40,312 And Fred called me, "Everything is all set. 486 00:24:40,346 --> 00:24:42,715 we got lots of food up on the glacier. 487 00:24:42,749 --> 00:24:44,784 Come up to Wrangell, Alaska. 488 00:24:44,817 --> 00:24:47,053 And I'll meet you and we'll go up to Stikine River, 489 00:24:47,086 --> 00:24:49,221 and make this climb." 490 00:24:49,255 --> 00:24:52,692 Typical Fred enthusiasm and not very much more detail than that. 491 00:24:52,725 --> 00:24:54,426 [Fred] He and Schmidtke said 492 00:24:54,460 --> 00:24:57,463 they had agreed to come up in about a week the next boat. 493 00:24:58,531 --> 00:25:00,967 Several parties had tried Kate's Needle, 494 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,102 But nobody has tried Devil's Thumb. 495 00:25:03,135 --> 00:25:07,339 Waiting out the weather, we eventually climbed Kate's Needle. 496 00:25:07,373 --> 00:25:09,008 [Bob] We made three attempts 497 00:25:09,041 --> 00:25:11,644 on Devil's Thumb, and had to retreat twice, 498 00:25:11,678 --> 00:25:15,948 and on the third attempt, we got to the summit. 499 00:25:17,249 --> 00:25:20,252 And we were running out of food down at our camp. 500 00:25:20,286 --> 00:25:23,355 We're cooking some of the last remaining food we had, 501 00:25:23,389 --> 00:25:27,059 and Fred handed me this bag, which I thought were beans. 502 00:25:27,093 --> 00:25:30,597 I poured it into the pan, and we melted some snow and 503 00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:32,599 I suddenly looked at him, 504 00:25:32,632 --> 00:25:35,401 I said, "Fred these beans 505 00:25:35,434 --> 00:25:38,137 don't have anything in them except maggots. 506 00:25:38,170 --> 00:25:39,706 Where did this come from?" 507 00:25:39,739 --> 00:25:44,010 He said, "Well, Helmy and I had it on Waddington." [laughs] 508 00:25:44,043 --> 00:25:50,516 So, we ate this stew of beans and maggots. 509 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:53,185 We were pretty hungry at that point. 510 00:25:55,588 --> 00:25:58,290 [music playing] 511 00:26:38,097 --> 00:26:41,701 [Sybil Goman] Fred was lively and addictive, and very outgoing. 512 00:26:41,734 --> 00:26:43,736 There's some sort of magnetism there. 513 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:45,471 [Alex] He burned through women 514 00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:49,308 like a gypsy went through horses. 515 00:26:49,341 --> 00:26:52,111 [Yvon] He has a real soft place 516 00:26:52,144 --> 00:26:54,213 in his heart for tall, dirty blondes. 517 00:26:54,246 --> 00:26:55,782 [Bob] There's a certain kind of girl 518 00:26:55,815 --> 00:26:59,185 that frequented roller skating rinks, 519 00:26:59,218 --> 00:27:01,053 Roller Dames, 520 00:27:01,087 --> 00:27:03,723 Rink Rats. 521 00:27:03,756 --> 00:27:07,393 [Jim] I know guys that wouldn't introduce him to their women 522 00:27:07,426 --> 00:27:10,429 or let him stay in their homes. 523 00:27:10,462 --> 00:27:12,164 [Don] Beware of Beckey: 524 00:27:12,198 --> 00:27:14,200 he'll steal your women, he'll steal your climbs. 525 00:27:15,034 --> 00:27:18,270 -[Dave] Is that true, you think? -[Alice Liska] Oh, yeah. 526 00:27:18,304 --> 00:27:20,472 [Jim] He's had a lot of girlfriends. 527 00:27:20,506 --> 00:27:23,375 And he does it with the same tenacious quality 528 00:27:23,409 --> 00:27:25,444 that he does his climbing. 529 00:27:29,115 --> 00:27:31,751 [Alex] He met this very attractive woman 530 00:27:31,784 --> 00:27:34,253 by the name of Vasiliki, 531 00:27:34,286 --> 00:27:35,755 skiing at Stevens Pass. 532 00:27:35,788 --> 00:27:38,390 And they hit it off. 533 00:27:38,424 --> 00:27:40,159 [Fred] Vasiliki was her name. 534 00:27:40,192 --> 00:27:41,360 She actually called herself Betty. 535 00:27:41,393 --> 00:27:44,296 She came from a Greek background. 536 00:27:46,332 --> 00:27:50,837 [Alex] Fred named a series of rock spires, 537 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:56,709 not only after her, but also after her favorite drinks. 538 00:27:56,743 --> 00:27:58,177 [Vasiliki] It's an honor, I guess. 539 00:27:58,210 --> 00:28:00,146 He put me on the map. What can I say? 540 00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:01,513 That's wonderful. 541 00:28:01,547 --> 00:28:06,385 This has been over 50 years now that people have said, 542 00:28:06,418 --> 00:28:08,721 "Are you the Vasiliki?" "Yes." 543 00:28:08,755 --> 00:28:10,489 "Well, I've climbed you." 544 00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:12,291 And I say, "Oh, OK." 545 00:28:12,324 --> 00:28:15,261 [Timothy] When I asked him about that, his face was startled. 546 00:28:15,294 --> 00:28:17,696 and it was like I caught him in something. 547 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:19,398 He goes, "How do you know about her?" 548 00:28:19,431 --> 00:28:23,135 She was the one, the one great love of his life. 549 00:28:23,169 --> 00:28:24,636 It turns out she marries 550 00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:27,039 one of the most famous people in the Northwest, 551 00:28:27,073 --> 00:28:29,675 Bill Dwyer, a federal judge. 552 00:28:29,708 --> 00:28:32,544 Vasiliki chose the judge instead of the dirtbag climber. 553 00:28:32,578 --> 00:28:35,014 But, I guess you can't blame her. 554 00:28:35,047 --> 00:28:37,449 Maybe it's a good thing that she turned him down 555 00:28:37,483 --> 00:28:39,551 because Fred would have actually gone for it 556 00:28:39,585 --> 00:28:42,088 and not kept climbing cutting-edge routes 557 00:28:42,121 --> 00:28:43,790 for another 50 years. 558 00:28:43,823 --> 00:28:45,792 [Vasiliki] He was a very interesting man to me 559 00:28:45,825 --> 00:28:49,028 not because he was a mountain man, 560 00:28:49,061 --> 00:28:51,397 but because he was so well read 561 00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:54,600 and he used to give me old books of poetry, 562 00:28:54,633 --> 00:28:58,337 he was a different sort of creature. 563 00:28:58,370 --> 00:29:00,472 He moved more than a gypsy, I think. 564 00:29:00,506 --> 00:29:03,742 He was just gone, but he's come back to write. 565 00:29:03,776 --> 00:29:07,513 I liked that sense of freedom to go. 566 00:29:07,546 --> 00:29:09,348 He was not free from his passion, 567 00:29:09,381 --> 00:29:12,084 but he was free from everyday things 568 00:29:12,118 --> 00:29:15,387 that the rest of the people are involved in. 569 00:29:15,421 --> 00:29:20,459 And he just was driven to this way of life. 570 00:29:22,294 --> 00:29:23,762 [Todd] Do you think you'll ever get married? 571 00:29:23,796 --> 00:29:25,164 [Fred] I think I... yeah, sometime I should. 572 00:29:25,197 --> 00:29:26,799 I should try it out. Yeah. 573 00:29:26,833 --> 00:29:29,101 -[Todd] What would be the perfect-- -[Fred] I don't know. 574 00:29:29,135 --> 00:29:32,171 [music playing] 575 00:29:33,873 --> 00:29:35,674 I am the daughter of Scottie, 576 00:29:35,707 --> 00:29:39,245 who was a girlfriend of Fred's for several years. 577 00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:41,647 Probably around '49 to '52. 578 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,784 In 1950, they went on a trip to Europe together. 579 00:29:45,818 --> 00:29:51,223 My mother said she was gonna go skiing and ran off to France. 580 00:29:54,326 --> 00:29:55,461 And then at some point, 581 00:29:55,494 --> 00:29:58,730 Fred came back and my mom stayed on. 582 00:29:58,764 --> 00:30:02,234 When they broke up, my mom and Fred went to the court 583 00:30:02,268 --> 00:30:04,603 to separate their personal items, 584 00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:07,606 So who knows, you know, did they elope? 585 00:30:07,639 --> 00:30:11,543 This is probably the most significant relationship in her life 586 00:30:11,577 --> 00:30:13,512 before she met my dad. 587 00:30:22,388 --> 00:30:26,325 Even years later after my mom was married to my dad, 588 00:30:26,358 --> 00:30:27,559 Fred would call sometimes 589 00:30:27,593 --> 00:30:30,596 and try to get her to run off with him. 590 00:30:39,538 --> 00:30:42,174 [Eric] Yeah, he always had women in his life. 591 00:30:42,208 --> 00:30:45,377 Rarely had the same one for a very long time. 592 00:30:45,411 --> 00:30:48,480 Sybil was one of the exceptions. 593 00:30:48,514 --> 00:30:52,251 [Sybil] He invited me to go on lots of climbs and just hang around basecamp, 594 00:30:52,284 --> 00:30:53,719 which, with Fred, a weeklong trip 595 00:30:53,752 --> 00:30:55,787 would usually morph into three months. 596 00:30:55,821 --> 00:30:58,557 Now some things that people don't know about Fred 597 00:30:58,590 --> 00:31:01,994 is he likes opera, he likes libraries. 598 00:31:02,028 --> 00:31:08,367 Fred did have some tenderness and romanticness in him. 599 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,636 Everybody knows Fred has a strong personality 600 00:31:10,669 --> 00:31:15,274 and consequently we had a lot of fireworks and a lot of sparks. 601 00:31:15,307 --> 00:31:18,610 We just, kind of, drifted apart and back together, and apart. 602 00:31:18,644 --> 00:31:21,480 I think what he wanted was a satisfying playmate. 603 00:31:21,513 --> 00:31:23,282 [Alex] A good number of years, 604 00:31:23,315 --> 00:31:25,051 he was living in my townhouse. 605 00:31:25,084 --> 00:31:28,454 Quite often he would bring lady friends over, 606 00:31:28,487 --> 00:31:32,524 and I could hear Fred talking 607 00:31:32,558 --> 00:31:36,362 about the most personal issues in his life, 608 00:31:36,395 --> 00:31:38,130 which he would never 609 00:31:38,164 --> 00:31:41,667 think of doing with his best friends. 610 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:46,572 Here was this very secretive and reclusive legend 611 00:31:46,605 --> 00:31:49,708 who was opening up his innermost feelings 612 00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:51,210 to these women 613 00:31:51,243 --> 00:31:53,512 that he's only gonna see for a few days, 614 00:31:53,545 --> 00:31:56,415 I wish some of those women would have had tape recorder 615 00:31:56,448 --> 00:31:57,716 and just recorded it 616 00:31:57,749 --> 00:32:00,152 because it would have made interesting reading. 617 00:32:13,465 --> 00:32:15,134 [beep] 618 00:32:29,381 --> 00:32:32,118 You guys go ahead, if you want to. 619 00:32:44,196 --> 00:32:46,365 I gotta get some water. 620 00:32:46,398 --> 00:32:50,036 I don't why you're taking movies, I'm just climbing like shit. 621 00:32:56,308 --> 00:32:59,811 [Ed Cooper] All climbers know about his climbing accomplishments, 622 00:32:59,845 --> 00:33:04,450 and he's probably made more first ascents in North America 623 00:33:04,483 --> 00:33:07,586 than any other climber ever will. 624 00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:09,621 But there's another side to Fred 625 00:33:09,655 --> 00:33:12,258 that I think is very interesting, 626 00:33:12,291 --> 00:33:17,063 and that is that he is a scholar. 627 00:33:17,096 --> 00:33:20,066 He must have spent thousands of hours 628 00:33:20,099 --> 00:33:22,068 in libraries researching, 629 00:33:22,101 --> 00:33:23,769 even a college professor 630 00:33:23,802 --> 00:33:28,774 could hardly get out that amount of work in a lifetime. 631 00:33:28,807 --> 00:33:31,243 [Layton] Well, every time somebody opens up a guidebook 632 00:33:31,277 --> 00:33:33,445 in an area where Beckey's climbed, 633 00:33:33,479 --> 00:33:35,981 they're gonna be following his footsteps, whether they like it or not. 634 00:33:36,815 --> 00:33:38,750 [Ed Viesturs] Beckey's Cascade Alpine Guides, 635 00:33:38,784 --> 00:33:40,219 that was like our Bible. 636 00:33:40,252 --> 00:33:42,521 Every week we'd pick out something, 637 00:33:42,554 --> 00:33:44,390 where we wanted to go, what we wanted to climb, 638 00:33:44,423 --> 00:33:46,158 and we'd have Beckey's book with us 639 00:33:46,192 --> 00:33:47,693 and we'd memorize what he said, 640 00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:49,728 you know, very detailed information 641 00:33:49,761 --> 00:33:51,630 about not only how to get there, 642 00:33:51,663 --> 00:33:54,533 what moves to make, what equipment to bring, 643 00:33:54,566 --> 00:33:58,204 how long it would take, the attention to detail was amazing, 644 00:33:58,237 --> 00:34:00,606 and the fact that he did most of the climbs 645 00:34:00,639 --> 00:34:02,608 that he wrote about is even more amazing. 646 00:34:02,641 --> 00:34:06,044 [Jim] The guy knows more about the mountains of North America 647 00:34:06,078 --> 00:34:07,346 than anyone that's ever lived. 648 00:34:07,379 --> 00:34:09,215 You can't go climbing with Fred Beckey 649 00:34:09,248 --> 00:34:11,683 without Fred having a piece of paper 650 00:34:11,717 --> 00:34:13,252 shoved into his pocket 651 00:34:13,285 --> 00:34:15,187 and some pens taped around his neck 652 00:34:15,221 --> 00:34:16,622 on, like, a piece of string. 653 00:34:16,655 --> 00:34:18,957 Sometimes, the most inopportune times, 654 00:34:18,990 --> 00:34:20,892 you hear him shout, "Hold on a second!" 655 00:34:20,926 --> 00:34:22,694 And you look down and he's in the middle of a pitch, 656 00:34:22,728 --> 00:34:26,265 like, scribbling notes about some obscure section 657 00:34:26,298 --> 00:34:28,534 of, like, an obscure pitch. 658 00:34:28,567 --> 00:34:29,768 [Fred] Kind of a big ledge. 659 00:34:29,801 --> 00:34:33,071 Trees going right. What are these? Mahoganies? 660 00:34:33,105 --> 00:34:35,174 -We got three bolts up there? -[Todd] Yep, three bolts. 661 00:34:35,207 --> 00:34:36,608 [Corey] He's like a mad scientist. 662 00:34:36,642 --> 00:34:38,410 He doesn't know what he's wearing. 663 00:34:38,444 --> 00:34:40,579 He doesn't care if there's stains on his clothes. 664 00:34:40,612 --> 00:34:43,782 Fred has one focus, which is climbing and documenting 665 00:34:43,815 --> 00:34:45,484 climbing through his topos. 666 00:34:45,517 --> 00:34:47,619 [Fred] Went out here, to kind of, like a little ramp. 667 00:34:47,653 --> 00:34:49,221 -Yep. -There's a block and you step. 668 00:34:49,255 --> 00:34:51,157 -Yup. -I still remember that. 669 00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:52,791 -I stuck here and you went up there. -[Todd] Yep. 670 00:34:52,824 --> 00:34:54,593 -OK. -[Todd] Either one is, bomber. 671 00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:56,094 OK. Either one and 155-foot pitch. 672 00:34:56,128 --> 00:34:58,664 [Corey] And he has all of those notes cataloged 673 00:34:58,697 --> 00:35:00,266 in the Fred Beckey way, 674 00:35:00,299 --> 00:35:03,068 shoved into closets and shoe-boxes 675 00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:05,737 and FedEx envelopes in his house. 676 00:35:05,771 --> 00:35:08,307 [Fred] I got about 90 topos at home of different routes. 677 00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:09,941 And I got 'em all glued together 678 00:35:09,975 --> 00:35:12,544 so I can carry 'em around and show 'em to people. 679 00:35:12,578 --> 00:35:16,182 And I got it 'em all organized by state, or area, you know. 680 00:35:16,215 --> 00:35:17,516 Whatever. 681 00:35:17,549 --> 00:35:19,017 [Corey] The amount of data that, you know, 682 00:35:19,050 --> 00:35:21,052 it's almost like Fred Beckey, the super computer. 683 00:35:21,086 --> 00:35:23,422 If there was an encyclopedia of climbing, 684 00:35:23,455 --> 00:35:26,525 it's, really, it's inside of his head. 685 00:35:26,558 --> 00:35:28,427 OK, go up this crack, 686 00:35:28,460 --> 00:35:30,296 about 20 feet, you'll see it. 687 00:35:30,329 --> 00:35:32,931 And cut out to the right. It's very obvious. 688 00:35:32,964 --> 00:35:34,600 You look up there, you'll see a giant horn, 689 00:35:34,633 --> 00:35:37,403 looks like a dog head. You know. 690 00:35:37,436 --> 00:35:41,707 Cut the right, you'll see the gully, you can't miss it. 691 00:35:41,740 --> 00:35:43,509 You'll have fun. 692 00:35:43,542 --> 00:35:46,612 [Dave] So did you ever study writing techniques? Or did you-- 693 00:35:46,645 --> 00:35:48,280 [Fred] No, believe it or not, I never did. 694 00:35:48,314 --> 00:35:51,783 -[Dave] Really? -[Fred] Never took a fucking course. 695 00:35:51,817 --> 00:35:56,288 I think taking a writing course would have just fucked me up totally. 696 00:36:04,563 --> 00:36:07,466 [Timothy] He chained himself to a desk at the Oregon Historical Society 697 00:36:07,499 --> 00:36:09,368 trying to produce this greater book 698 00:36:09,401 --> 00:36:11,069 about the history of the Cascades. 699 00:36:13,339 --> 00:36:14,773 [Fred] I was all over-- 700 00:36:14,806 --> 00:36:17,042 National Archives, you name it. 701 00:36:17,075 --> 00:36:20,212 Practically every research library on the East Coast. 702 00:36:20,246 --> 00:36:22,348 I should've had a girlfriend, hanging around with me 703 00:36:22,381 --> 00:36:24,383 to keep me company doing all of this stuff. 704 00:36:24,416 --> 00:36:27,819 [Fred] Did Range of Glaciers do okay? 705 00:36:27,853 --> 00:36:30,155 [Fred] Not money-wise, not for me. 706 00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:33,225 The money has never been very good. 707 00:36:33,259 --> 00:36:35,361 It should've been. 708 00:36:35,394 --> 00:36:38,163 I blame... I don't know who to blame. 709 00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:39,965 The public, 710 00:36:39,998 --> 00:36:41,199 the Internet 711 00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:43,001 The books that are really selling 712 00:36:43,034 --> 00:36:44,169 are these self-help books. 713 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,504 Dr. Phil... 714 00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:47,273 I am OK, you're OK, 715 00:36:47,306 --> 00:36:50,041 you're not OK, I am OK, you're an idiot. 716 00:36:50,075 --> 00:36:52,478 You know, how to improve yourself. 717 00:36:52,511 --> 00:36:56,014 How to increase your sensibilities, 718 00:36:56,047 --> 00:36:58,484 how to make love, how to make this, 719 00:36:58,517 --> 00:37:00,018 how to do that. 720 00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:04,856 There's whole shelves of 'em in Seattle, I looked at, 721 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:07,459 a whole eight feet high, that wide. 722 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,629 Self-help psychology... 723 00:37:10,662 --> 00:37:12,764 How to improve this... how to improve... 724 00:37:12,798 --> 00:37:14,400 Jesus Christ! 725 00:37:14,433 --> 00:37:17,168 There must be a lot of people that are insecure. 726 00:37:17,202 --> 00:37:19,338 There must be. It's not my kinda thing. 727 00:37:19,371 --> 00:37:20,606 You know, not at all. 728 00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:24,209 But, I mean, I'm not knocking it, great. 729 00:37:24,242 --> 00:37:26,111 Good for Dr. Phil. 730 00:37:26,144 --> 00:37:29,781 He's probably making $10 million a year on that stuff, but... 731 00:37:38,757 --> 00:37:41,293 [Fred] I'm trying to put together a bit of a hybrid, 732 00:37:41,327 --> 00:37:45,564 to kinda, portray the mountain or the route, access, 733 00:37:45,597 --> 00:37:47,899 route description, summary, 734 00:37:47,933 --> 00:37:50,302 picture, map, topo. 735 00:37:50,336 --> 00:37:53,505 All my friends say it will go over. 736 00:37:53,539 --> 00:37:57,242 But they're my friends, so I'm not sure I trust them, you know? 737 00:38:01,413 --> 00:38:05,384 Originally, I had in mind, the name 738 00:38:05,417 --> 00:38:07,085 100 Classic Climbs, 739 00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:09,321 That was the first idea and somewhere 740 00:38:09,355 --> 00:38:11,222 the last couple of years, I went bonkers 741 00:38:11,256 --> 00:38:12,658 and forgot all about the numbers 742 00:38:12,691 --> 00:38:14,560 and just kept writing and writing, 743 00:38:14,593 --> 00:38:19,264 and the last time, I have a list of the climbs, 744 00:38:19,297 --> 00:38:21,032 I counted 137. 745 00:38:21,066 --> 00:38:22,701 Can you believe it? 746 00:38:22,734 --> 00:38:25,170 There was four climbs when we started with him 747 00:38:25,203 --> 00:38:27,038 that he still hadn't been able to do, 748 00:38:27,072 --> 00:38:29,040 but he wanted to put in anyway, 'cause they're such classics. 749 00:38:29,074 --> 00:38:34,713 [Fred] I feel very strongly that I want to have done each of these climbs 750 00:38:34,746 --> 00:38:37,215 or made a good solid attempt on it. 751 00:38:37,248 --> 00:38:39,250 Tentatively, I've included them. 752 00:38:39,284 --> 00:38:42,354 In fact, that's one reason I can't really finish this thing 753 00:38:42,388 --> 00:38:45,824 until the fall, as far as totally finishing it. 754 00:38:45,857 --> 00:38:47,426 Just as an explanation, 755 00:38:47,459 --> 00:38:49,995 and part of this is my idiosyncrasies 756 00:38:50,028 --> 00:38:52,598 involved in it too, I admit that. 757 00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:00,238 [Fred] I'd like to do Assiniboine 758 00:39:00,271 --> 00:39:01,573 It's not a hard climb, but it's interesting, 759 00:39:01,607 --> 00:39:04,543 and kind of a big, high mountain. 760 00:39:04,576 --> 00:39:06,912 [Don] With a character like Beckey, 761 00:39:06,945 --> 00:39:09,147 going back becomes almost a routine, 762 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:10,682 it almost becomes expected. 763 00:39:10,716 --> 00:39:12,317 Well, if I miss it today, 764 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,853 I'll go back tomorrow, or next year, 765 00:39:14,886 --> 00:39:16,354 [beep] 766 00:39:16,388 --> 00:39:19,024 [Fred] I wanted to jump you into going to Assiniboine. 767 00:39:19,057 --> 00:39:21,159 Its dry now. Excellent conditions. 768 00:39:21,192 --> 00:39:22,428 The weather is good. 769 00:39:22,461 --> 00:39:23,662 This is the optimum time to do it. 770 00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:25,597 Let's get going on this. 771 00:39:25,631 --> 00:39:28,233 [Jim] He'd go back, and he'd go back, and he'd go back, 772 00:39:28,266 --> 00:39:31,102 and damn it, eventually he'd get it done. 773 00:39:38,644 --> 00:39:40,646 [beep] 774 00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:43,649 [Fred] We're going up to Mt. Monarch, near Waddington. 775 00:39:43,682 --> 00:39:45,651 Hell of a mountain. Be a great place to do some filming. 776 00:39:45,684 --> 00:39:47,352 [beep] 777 00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:50,021 It's the most important trip of the summer for me. 778 00:39:50,055 --> 00:39:53,358 -I want to be sure it does not fail. -[beep] 779 00:39:53,391 --> 00:39:56,227 I realize this is almost impossible short notice, 780 00:39:56,261 --> 00:39:58,296 but I've done stuff like that before, 781 00:39:58,329 --> 00:40:02,333 Just jump on an airplane, "To hell with it all," and just get out. 782 00:40:05,003 --> 00:40:07,338 [Barry] A lot of mountain climbing and alpinism 783 00:40:07,372 --> 00:40:08,674 is mastering the art of suffering, 784 00:40:08,707 --> 00:40:10,275 and a lot of it is, 785 00:40:10,308 --> 00:40:12,611 torturous, laborious, physical work. 786 00:40:12,644 --> 00:40:15,647 I mean, it's hard and it's uncomfortable, and you're cold, 787 00:40:15,681 --> 00:40:19,451 and you're hungry and you're wet. 788 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,187 For a guy like Fred, 789 00:40:22,220 --> 00:40:24,556 I am sure within his first decade, 790 00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:27,959 realized that he was in love with the process. 791 00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:36,502 [Ed Cooper] Fred really enjoyed the mountains, 792 00:40:36,535 --> 00:40:41,072 more than just, let's say, making a first ascent or something. 793 00:40:41,106 --> 00:40:44,242 He truly loved being out there. 794 00:40:46,578 --> 00:40:50,015 [Don] Fred Beckey is, in my opinion, a poetic genius. 795 00:40:50,048 --> 00:40:52,751 Where the poetry is the beauty and wildness 796 00:40:52,784 --> 00:40:57,823 of unchanging nature and the challenge of the heights. 797 00:40:59,591 --> 00:41:03,161 [Fred] It's hard to describe, for me anyway... 798 00:41:03,194 --> 00:41:05,764 You might call it a sense of awe, a sense of amazement, 799 00:41:05,797 --> 00:41:09,367 a sense of just a different view than you get from the valley. 800 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,270 And it's a very temporal one, obviously 801 00:41:12,303 --> 00:41:16,374 because you're not gonna be there very long. 802 00:41:16,407 --> 00:41:19,044 You know, most city sports, like take football, 803 00:41:19,077 --> 00:41:22,614 you can quit, and if you're pooped out, off you go. 804 00:41:22,648 --> 00:41:24,783 But in climbing, you're in the middle of a wall somewhere, 805 00:41:24,816 --> 00:41:28,386 and the weather's coming in, you got a lot of commitment. 806 00:41:28,419 --> 00:41:32,691 To me, there is endless beauty involved in these things 807 00:41:32,724 --> 00:41:36,995 and depending on the conditions and the weather and times 808 00:41:37,028 --> 00:41:38,697 it's changeable all the time. 809 00:41:40,566 --> 00:41:44,570 I think there is a certain satisfaction that builds up naturally, 810 00:41:44,603 --> 00:41:47,038 it may even compare to winning a ball game. 811 00:41:47,072 --> 00:41:49,340 There's a good feeling about it. 812 00:41:49,374 --> 00:41:51,543 Different than going to work everyday, you don't feel any better 813 00:41:51,577 --> 00:41:54,112 after the end of the day. At least I don't. 814 00:41:56,715 --> 00:41:59,384 [Timothy] One of the things that Beckey is really bad at 815 00:41:59,417 --> 00:42:02,053 and this is to me, a virtue. 816 00:42:02,087 --> 00:42:05,056 He lacks self-promotion. 817 00:42:05,090 --> 00:42:08,459 Other people would have, not only entire lines of gear 818 00:42:08,493 --> 00:42:12,731 with their name on it, he would be a household name. 819 00:42:12,764 --> 00:42:16,635 [Alex] He had opportunities to endorse products 820 00:42:16,668 --> 00:42:20,271 and be on the back page of every climbing magazine, 821 00:42:20,305 --> 00:42:25,110 he never followed that opportunity. 822 00:42:25,143 --> 00:42:30,649 Because that would compromise his real ambition, and that was climbing. 823 00:42:30,682 --> 00:42:33,484 In other words, he was not for sale. 824 00:42:35,386 --> 00:42:37,589 [music playing] 825 00:42:50,468 --> 00:42:54,640 In his prime he was the consummate all-around climber. 826 00:42:54,673 --> 00:43:00,145 He could climb rock as good as anybody, if not, better. 827 00:43:00,178 --> 00:43:03,782 [Steve] I've known a lot of climbers but he was singular 828 00:43:03,815 --> 00:43:07,152 and he had this drive that was like 829 00:43:07,185 --> 00:43:10,622 the whole universe is coming down in a spiral at that point. 830 00:43:10,656 --> 00:43:13,158 And that's Fred. 831 00:43:28,573 --> 00:43:32,277 [vintage narrator] Fred Beckey, climbing leader of the party. At 30, 832 00:43:32,310 --> 00:43:35,246 one of America's foremost mountaineers. 833 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,684 [Conrad] A year after the first ascent of Everest in 1954, 834 00:43:38,717 --> 00:43:40,786 Fred Beckey did the All-Star, 835 00:43:40,819 --> 00:43:44,489 Grand Slam, Super Bowl, World Series, Stanley Cup, 836 00:43:44,522 --> 00:43:48,126 all wrapped into one season in the Alaska Range. 837 00:43:48,159 --> 00:43:49,594 First ascent of Mt. Deborah, 838 00:43:49,627 --> 00:43:52,330 first ascent of northwest buttress of Denali, 839 00:43:52,363 --> 00:43:54,632 pretty challenging routes, seldomly climbed now 840 00:43:54,666 --> 00:43:57,368 and then the first ascent of Mt. Hunter. 841 00:43:57,402 --> 00:43:59,037 [vintage narrator] Seventy miles of pack out 842 00:43:59,070 --> 00:44:01,406 after climbing a mountain, but they're all smiling. 843 00:44:01,439 --> 00:44:04,009 They've nearly won. 844 00:44:04,042 --> 00:44:06,377 Behind them is the summit of the north face of Mt. McKinley. 845 00:44:06,411 --> 00:44:09,647 Twenty thousand feet of Arctic mountain climbed, 846 00:44:09,681 --> 00:44:12,650 a mountain beaten. 847 00:44:12,684 --> 00:44:16,021 [Conrad] Whenever I think about, "Oh, how badass am I right now?" 848 00:44:16,054 --> 00:44:19,390 It's like, "I'm soft, I'm light compared to Fred in '54"" 849 00:44:19,424 --> 00:44:22,227 [Interviewer] If you were to be remembered by a single climb 850 00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:24,362 the most important or most significant climb 851 00:44:24,395 --> 00:44:26,998 that you've done, what would it be? 852 00:44:27,032 --> 00:44:28,666 [Fred] Probably Mount Deborah. 853 00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:31,136 it's the one that scared us the most. 854 00:44:31,169 --> 00:44:34,005 [Henry Meybohm] I had heard about Fred Beckey before 855 00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:37,408 and then I had the chance to climb with Fred Beckey. 856 00:44:37,442 --> 00:44:38,476 Really? 857 00:44:38,509 --> 00:44:39,811 Yeah! 858 00:44:43,114 --> 00:44:46,517 [Henry] When you are in Europe and you climb in the Alps, 859 00:44:46,551 --> 00:44:50,388 whatever you do has been done a few hundred times before. 860 00:44:50,421 --> 00:44:53,658 And when I was in Alaska I heard about 861 00:44:53,691 --> 00:44:56,561 unclimbed mountains. 862 00:44:59,330 --> 00:45:00,966 Huh? Okay, let's try! 863 00:45:00,999 --> 00:45:03,668 [Fred] Heinrich Harrer had heard that we were up there 864 00:45:03,701 --> 00:45:06,371 climbing on McKinley, and we just sort of 865 00:45:06,404 --> 00:45:10,175 met up near Fairbanks, and we just joined forces. 866 00:45:22,353 --> 00:45:24,155 [Layton] First ascents, you never know. 867 00:45:24,189 --> 00:45:25,523 There are all these mysteries and, 868 00:45:25,556 --> 00:45:27,692 you know, what's gonna happen up there? 869 00:45:27,725 --> 00:45:29,627 How difficult is it gonna be? 870 00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:32,030 You know, a lot of unknowns. 871 00:45:44,542 --> 00:45:46,778 [Colin] You don't know exactly what equipment you'll need 872 00:45:46,812 --> 00:45:49,214 you don't know where the difficulties will be, 873 00:45:49,247 --> 00:45:50,581 how hard it will be, 874 00:45:50,615 --> 00:45:52,050 what the descent will be like, 875 00:45:52,083 --> 00:45:57,022 and first ascents are coveted because of that. 876 00:45:57,055 --> 00:45:59,257 [music playing] 877 00:46:27,618 --> 00:46:30,521 [Jim] To do that in 1954 given the state 878 00:46:30,555 --> 00:46:32,490 of the equipment that people had then, 879 00:46:32,523 --> 00:46:35,293 given the methods that you would use to get there 880 00:46:35,326 --> 00:46:37,495 because this is, you know, remote wilderness, 881 00:46:37,528 --> 00:46:40,731 And the body of knowledge then, I mean, that's phenomenal. 882 00:47:26,511 --> 00:47:29,614 [Steve Gunn] * You were lost 883 00:47:29,647 --> 00:47:33,851 * On the road from a different way * 884 00:47:33,885 --> 00:47:37,322 * Pushed too far 885 00:47:37,355 --> 00:47:39,925 * Miles away 886 00:47:39,958 --> 00:47:42,460 [Alex] In 1963, when the American Everest expedition 887 00:47:42,493 --> 00:47:45,463 went to the Himalayas, Fred Beckey 888 00:47:45,496 --> 00:47:49,734 was undoubtedly the foremost climber in America. 889 00:47:49,767 --> 00:47:51,302 [Jim] And Norman, 890 00:47:51,336 --> 00:47:54,005 when he was choosing the Everest group, 891 00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:55,573 deliberately passed over Fred 892 00:47:55,606 --> 00:47:58,776 on the theory that Fred didn't play well with others. 893 00:47:58,809 --> 00:48:03,548 [Norman Dyhrenfurth] In '63 he applied. I said, "Fred... 894 00:48:03,581 --> 00:48:05,083 no." 895 00:48:05,116 --> 00:48:07,618 [Tom Hornbein] It was felt that Fred 896 00:48:07,652 --> 00:48:10,088 was not as much of a team player, 897 00:48:10,121 --> 00:48:12,557 and I sensed that some of that came 898 00:48:12,590 --> 00:48:18,696 from what happened on that Lhotse expedition. 899 00:48:18,729 --> 00:48:23,601 [Norman] In 1955, I finally got the permission for Lhotse, the fourth highest mountain 900 00:48:23,634 --> 00:48:25,503 right next to Everest. 901 00:48:25,536 --> 00:48:27,572 I had... 902 00:48:27,605 --> 00:48:30,041 two Swiss, one doctor, 903 00:48:30,075 --> 00:48:32,177 and I had three Americans 904 00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:34,645 and Fred Beckey was one of them. 905 00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:39,350 I knew his reputation, and I'd read in the American Alpine Journal 906 00:48:39,384 --> 00:48:42,053 and I knew that he was a good climber, yes. 907 00:48:42,087 --> 00:48:44,155 But I also knew that... 908 00:48:44,189 --> 00:48:47,625 he had never been invited on an expedition. 909 00:48:47,658 --> 00:48:50,495 [Ed Viesturs] There's some compromises that you have to accept 910 00:48:50,528 --> 00:48:53,098 when you go on a Himalayan expedition with a big team. 911 00:48:53,131 --> 00:48:56,367 You gotta accept that I might not get a chance to go to the top 912 00:48:56,401 --> 00:48:59,470 I've got to be a team player, I've got to contribute. 913 00:49:01,006 --> 00:49:02,540 He didn't... 914 00:49:02,573 --> 00:49:05,010 hit it off too well with the others, 915 00:49:05,043 --> 00:49:07,045 there were Austrians and Swiss. 916 00:49:07,078 --> 00:49:10,148 The Europeans called him the "prolete," 917 00:49:10,181 --> 00:49:12,417 which means proletarian. [chuckles] 918 00:49:12,450 --> 00:49:15,386 He was a likable guy, he was a good climber. 919 00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:16,721 He meant well... 920 00:49:16,754 --> 00:49:19,224 but he didn't always do the right thing. 921 00:49:19,257 --> 00:49:23,995 And he left our doctor at our high camp. 922 00:49:24,029 --> 00:49:27,132 [Fred] I was in a tent with Bruno Spirig, he was a doctor, 923 00:49:27,165 --> 00:49:28,333 he was a Swiss climber. 924 00:49:28,366 --> 00:49:31,202 We were camped at roughly 23,000 feet. 925 00:49:31,236 --> 00:49:33,704 Wind picked up, it was really a bad storm, 926 00:49:33,738 --> 00:49:36,374 the wind just tore that tent apart. 927 00:49:36,407 --> 00:49:40,078 And Spirig started feeling bad. 928 00:49:40,111 --> 00:49:42,080 Some of the party were camped 929 00:49:42,113 --> 00:49:45,383 I'd say about 1,500 vertical feet below us, 930 00:49:45,416 --> 00:49:46,517 and... 931 00:49:46,551 --> 00:49:50,388 there was a choice, what was I gonna do? 932 00:49:50,421 --> 00:49:53,658 [Norman] He left him alone and came down to Advance Base 933 00:49:53,691 --> 00:49:58,496 and everybody was aghast and said, "Why did you leave him alone?" 934 00:49:58,529 --> 00:50:02,067 He says, "Well" He didn't even have a sleeping bag. 935 00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:04,535 Sure, I could have stayed there, but what could I do for him? 936 00:50:04,569 --> 00:50:06,237 We had no radio communication, 937 00:50:06,271 --> 00:50:08,706 I felt the best thing to do was to go down to get help. 938 00:50:08,739 --> 00:50:10,575 Help might've come up that day 939 00:50:10,608 --> 00:50:13,144 or the next day, but who knows? 940 00:50:13,178 --> 00:50:14,679 I felt it was more urgent, 941 00:50:14,712 --> 00:50:16,914 and the best policy was to go down to get help 942 00:50:16,947 --> 00:50:19,217 and then come back, and I came back up with them. 943 00:50:19,250 --> 00:50:23,154 [Norman] The next morning, I went up with my friend Angobar 944 00:50:23,188 --> 00:50:26,057 and Fred Beckey, and the three of us went up 945 00:50:26,091 --> 00:50:28,359 and we got him down, the doctor. 946 00:50:28,393 --> 00:50:30,461 But ever since they couldn't figure out 947 00:50:30,495 --> 00:50:33,631 why he didn't stay with him or bring him down? 948 00:50:36,234 --> 00:50:39,137 After this thing, things changed. 949 00:50:46,111 --> 00:50:49,480 [Nick Clinch] It's a huge difference between second guessing somebody 950 00:50:49,514 --> 00:50:52,183 and being there 951 00:50:52,217 --> 00:50:54,552 when you have got to make that decision. 952 00:50:54,585 --> 00:50:58,256 You have got to do this, and these are the factors. 953 00:51:24,149 --> 00:51:26,617 [Jim] The first time I heard about Fred was, 954 00:51:26,651 --> 00:51:28,085 I was just a young kid. 955 00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:30,655 He was a little different but, you know, 956 00:51:30,688 --> 00:51:34,225 nature is diverse and so is humanity. 957 00:51:36,060 --> 00:51:40,231 My life was more, I guess you would say, structured. 958 00:51:40,265 --> 00:51:42,133 And I would definitely say 959 00:51:42,167 --> 00:51:45,336 that Fred's life was unstructured. 960 00:51:47,372 --> 00:51:48,773 [Timothy] His contemporaries, they founded companies, 961 00:51:48,806 --> 00:51:50,708 they were like movie stars for a while, 962 00:51:50,741 --> 00:51:52,777 they were glamorous. 963 00:51:52,810 --> 00:51:56,046 They were like the astronauts of mountaineering, 964 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,048 and Beckey was left out. 965 00:51:58,082 --> 00:52:00,951 [Tom] To imagine Fred being the first American to climb Everest 966 00:52:00,985 --> 00:52:05,523 and substituting him for Whittaker 967 00:52:05,556 --> 00:52:07,325 I can't imagine Fred 968 00:52:07,358 --> 00:52:11,229 to be the... the sort of the public persona 969 00:52:11,262 --> 00:52:13,030 of the expedition. 970 00:52:13,063 --> 00:52:17,435 It's a hell of a responsibility and I'm glad it was Jim 971 00:52:17,468 --> 00:52:21,206 who I think could manage it and thrived on it. 972 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,608 [Helmy] Who was Whittaker other than he climbed Everest? 973 00:52:23,641 --> 00:52:27,345 But these are guys that get to talk to the President of the USA, 974 00:52:27,378 --> 00:52:29,647 and are big heroes, you know, 975 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,250 because they're the first Americans to climb Mt. Everest. 976 00:52:32,283 --> 00:52:34,585 [Jim] I was never attracted to any dirtbag style 977 00:52:34,619 --> 00:52:36,787 I wasn't that far out of the box. 978 00:52:36,821 --> 00:52:38,756 My whole life wasn't climbing. 979 00:52:38,789 --> 00:52:42,493 It was Fred's whole life, actually. 980 00:52:42,527 --> 00:52:44,729 I would have liked to have gone... 981 00:52:44,762 --> 00:52:48,065 I'm sure. But, since I wasn't invited, 982 00:52:48,098 --> 00:52:50,401 all right, so you weren't. You know, sorry. 983 00:52:50,435 --> 00:52:52,102 Sorry. 984 00:52:54,739 --> 00:52:56,173 [Timothy] There's these pivot points in life 985 00:52:56,207 --> 00:52:58,042 where you could go one way or the other. 986 00:52:58,075 --> 00:52:59,544 Beckey had about 10 of them, 987 00:52:59,577 --> 00:53:03,314 and at every turn, he stayed in the climber bum, 988 00:53:03,348 --> 00:53:05,716 dirtbag lane, he never turned off. 989 00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:08,152 He never took the exit to respectability, 990 00:53:08,185 --> 00:53:11,055 he never took the exit to an easy life 991 00:53:11,088 --> 00:53:14,492 he never took the exit to branding Fred Beckey. 992 00:53:14,525 --> 00:53:15,626 Would he have liked to? 993 00:53:15,660 --> 00:53:19,196 I mean, the proof is in the life. 994 00:53:19,230 --> 00:53:21,098 [Fred] Can't say I've had any regrets, 995 00:53:21,131 --> 00:53:22,667 at least I haven't thought about it. 996 00:53:22,700 --> 00:53:25,436 I really don't like to dwell back on the background. 997 00:53:25,470 --> 00:53:29,106 You did what you did, forget it. You know, look forward 998 00:53:29,139 --> 00:53:32,643 to something new. 999 00:53:32,677 --> 00:53:35,646 [Conrad] So, he missed out on these big expeditions 1000 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:39,450 and these trips at the time were what professional climbers were doing. 1001 00:53:39,484 --> 00:53:41,552 You were either part of one of these big trips 1002 00:53:41,586 --> 00:53:44,289 or you were out there forging your own path. 1003 00:53:44,322 --> 00:53:48,092 And Fred was forging his own path. 1004 00:53:48,125 --> 00:53:53,398 [Alex] While the Everest expedition spent a whole season climbing one peak 1005 00:53:53,431 --> 00:53:56,501 and only a handful made it to the top, 1006 00:53:56,534 --> 00:54:00,104 Fred spent the same amount of time 1007 00:54:00,137 --> 00:54:05,510 doing dozens of first ascents all over North America. 1008 00:54:05,543 --> 00:54:08,178 [Timothy] You could take, in isolation, 1009 00:54:08,212 --> 00:54:10,315 probably a dozen Beckey peaks. 1010 00:54:10,348 --> 00:54:13,384 Any of those dozen would make a career. 1011 00:54:13,418 --> 00:54:16,621 But then, expand that by a factor of ten, 1012 00:54:16,654 --> 00:54:19,490 and Beckey was just knocking them off one after the other. 1013 00:54:19,524 --> 00:54:22,727 It was like, tell me a place that's unclimbable, 1014 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,630 and I'll be there on Saturday. 1015 00:54:25,663 --> 00:54:28,198 He was astonishing people. 1016 00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:31,436 [Ed Cooper] In those early days, 1017 00:54:31,469 --> 00:54:35,506 Fred seemed to be climbing almost all the time. 1018 00:54:35,540 --> 00:54:38,543 In fact, many of us wondered where he got all the money 1019 00:54:38,576 --> 00:54:42,413 because he never seemed to have a job or work. 1020 00:54:42,447 --> 00:54:47,418 [Don] No one really knew much about how he made his living 1021 00:54:47,452 --> 00:54:48,719 or what he did. 1022 00:54:48,753 --> 00:54:50,254 [Yvon] He had no money, I mean, he was working, 1023 00:54:50,721 --> 00:54:54,525 I think as a paper salesman in those days... 1024 00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:56,461 [Eric] When I first met him, he sold insurance 1025 00:54:56,494 --> 00:54:59,530 and he usually had a company car... 1026 00:54:59,564 --> 00:55:00,598 [Steve] He didn't work at all. 1027 00:55:00,631 --> 00:55:03,100 I don't know quite how he did it. 1028 00:55:05,736 --> 00:55:07,338 Then the big rumor... 1029 00:55:07,372 --> 00:55:10,508 came along, there was this plane crash on Slesse, 1030 00:55:10,541 --> 00:55:14,479 and the rumor was that there was all this gold aboard. 1031 00:55:14,512 --> 00:55:18,649 Fred was trying to get people to go into Slesse with him. 1032 00:55:18,683 --> 00:55:21,386 Some of us began to think, well, you know, 1033 00:55:21,419 --> 00:55:24,389 maybe he actually got in there and got hold of that money. 1034 00:55:24,422 --> 00:55:27,124 And that's why he was able to, you know, 1035 00:55:27,157 --> 00:55:30,628 spend all his time climbing. 1036 00:55:30,661 --> 00:55:35,299 [Alex] He put away money, and we never will find out 1037 00:55:35,332 --> 00:55:38,302 how much, but he put it away in stocks... 1038 00:55:38,335 --> 00:55:40,705 [Fred] How much do I have on the market? 1039 00:55:43,107 --> 00:55:45,610 That's all? 1040 00:55:45,643 --> 00:55:48,546 Well, I can't buy anything with that. 1041 00:55:48,579 --> 00:55:50,515 OK, great, Thanks. 1042 00:55:50,548 --> 00:55:52,983 How about this macaroni and cheese? 1043 00:55:53,017 --> 00:55:56,621 [Dave] What do you say when someone asks you what do you do for a living? 1044 00:55:56,654 --> 00:55:58,322 [Fred] It depends who it is. 1045 00:55:58,355 --> 00:56:00,925 If I don't want to talk to that person, I just tell 'em, "Adios." 1046 00:56:00,958 --> 00:56:03,561 None of their fucking business! 1047 00:56:03,594 --> 00:56:05,696 [Timothy] When I got to know him, he was sort of twitchy 1048 00:56:05,730 --> 00:56:09,634 whenever he was at sea level. He doesn't do well 1049 00:56:09,667 --> 00:56:11,769 when he's not in thin air. 1050 00:56:11,802 --> 00:56:13,538 Yeah, I wish they'd make the law, 1051 00:56:13,571 --> 00:56:16,240 "Car first. Pedestrians, fuck 'em." 1052 00:56:16,273 --> 00:56:20,611 Like China, Bangkok or Europe. 1053 00:56:20,645 --> 00:56:22,680 Here, the fuckin' people walk out across street 1054 00:56:22,713 --> 00:56:24,314 and don't even look! 1055 00:56:24,348 --> 00:56:25,716 [Timothy] It's like he was in prison or something 1056 00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:27,184 when he was in the city. 1057 00:56:27,217 --> 00:56:29,053 The mountains are the only thing 1058 00:56:29,086 --> 00:56:30,821 that made him comfortable. 1059 00:56:33,591 --> 00:56:36,360 -[beep] -[Fred] Hey, this is Beckey. Can you rent a car? 1060 00:56:36,393 --> 00:56:38,328 But we've got to get out of here. 1061 00:56:38,362 --> 00:56:40,130 The weather might come in on Sunday, 1062 00:56:40,164 --> 00:56:41,999 and it'll fuck the whole damn trip up. 1063 00:56:42,032 --> 00:56:44,001 -[beep] -Beckey again! 1064 00:56:44,034 --> 00:56:45,536 I called you over and over. 1065 00:56:45,570 --> 00:56:48,072 The whole trip is not going to work unless we get going. 1066 00:56:48,105 --> 00:56:49,273 [beep] 1067 00:56:49,306 --> 00:56:51,341 Hey, this is a crisis. This is Fred. 1068 00:56:51,375 --> 00:56:55,480 You have got to be here on the 12th, on Saturday! 1069 00:56:55,513 --> 00:56:56,681 That was our agreement! 1070 00:56:56,714 --> 00:56:59,684 You cannot be here as late as Monday! 1071 00:56:59,717 --> 00:57:03,153 We are losing the whole weekend. 1072 00:57:03,187 --> 00:57:05,289 [Rick Ridgeway] He called me up couple weeks ago 1073 00:57:05,322 --> 00:57:07,424 to check in on how the book was coming along, 1074 00:57:07,458 --> 00:57:09,960 and I said, "Well, how are you coming along on the climbs?" 1075 00:57:09,994 --> 00:57:12,262 He said, "Oh, I got weathered off last year, but I'm getting all geared up, 1076 00:57:12,296 --> 00:57:16,467 we'll get it done. We'll get it done before press time." 1077 00:57:16,501 --> 00:57:18,469 [Fred] Don't take movies of me, I look kind of ugly this morning. 1078 00:57:18,503 --> 00:57:20,905 [Jeff Wenger] Ah, you look great. 1079 00:57:20,938 --> 00:57:23,340 -[Jeff] Hey! -[Fred] Anybody want agua? 1080 00:57:23,373 --> 00:57:25,576 -[Jeff] Sure, I'll have a little. -[Fred] Yeah, it's free. 1081 00:57:25,610 --> 00:57:29,346 -[Jeff] How many times have you been up here? -[Fred] Too many. 1082 00:57:29,379 --> 00:57:32,049 Just, things just haven't clicked. 1083 00:57:32,082 --> 00:57:34,585 Sometimes my fault, 1084 00:57:34,619 --> 00:57:36,420 sometimes the weather. 1085 00:57:42,392 --> 00:57:44,194 OK. 1086 00:57:45,530 --> 00:57:49,567 [breathing heavily] 1087 00:57:59,544 --> 00:58:01,378 Good lead. 1088 00:58:04,248 --> 00:58:06,183 I'm not doing very well. 1089 00:58:07,417 --> 00:58:09,119 Shitty. 1090 00:58:09,153 --> 00:58:11,455 [Todd] I do see Fred get really defeated 1091 00:58:11,488 --> 00:58:15,660 by not physically being able to do it, because mentally he still 1092 00:58:15,693 --> 00:58:18,162 thinks of being able to climb this stuff. 1093 00:58:18,195 --> 00:58:21,198 He still wants to climb Lucky Streaks, and believes he can. 1094 00:58:21,231 --> 00:58:24,034 Hope I climb better than this tomorrow. 1095 00:58:24,068 --> 00:58:25,502 Fuck. 1096 00:58:27,605 --> 00:58:30,775 I didn't set any speed records on that, man. 1097 00:58:30,808 --> 00:58:32,242 Kind of fun, though. 1098 00:58:32,276 --> 00:58:34,779 Hope I didn't embarrass you guys too much. 1099 00:58:34,812 --> 00:58:36,346 [Jeff] You did great, man. 1100 00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:38,515 I don't know, I feel a little clumsy. 1101 00:58:42,620 --> 00:58:46,390 [Todd] Very quickly after the defeat and the self doubt 1102 00:58:46,423 --> 00:58:48,325 he's real quick to just turn right back around 1103 00:58:48,358 --> 00:58:54,231 and somehow just erase all that from his brain and start fresh 1104 00:58:54,264 --> 00:58:56,066 that he wants to climb Lucky Streaks again. 1105 00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:58,368 Ah, maybe I'll go back next year, we'll see. 1106 00:58:58,402 --> 00:59:01,606 If I do, I think I'm just gonna go up and climb 1107 00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:04,975 three pitches and just bail out. Fuck it. 1108 00:59:05,009 --> 00:59:07,011 [Jim] One thing about alpine climbing-- 1109 00:59:07,044 --> 00:59:11,081 if you can't handle rejection or failure, 1110 00:59:11,115 --> 00:59:12,516 don't even go there. 1111 00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:13,684 [music playing] 1112 00:59:13,718 --> 00:59:15,620 [Jim] We were in Bishop, California. 1113 00:59:15,653 --> 00:59:17,221 It was a Saturday night, 1114 00:59:17,254 --> 00:59:19,156 and we all went to a country western bar, 1115 00:59:19,189 --> 00:59:20,524 and there were lot of women. 1116 00:59:20,557 --> 00:59:22,126 Fred's there, and there's this table 1117 00:59:22,159 --> 00:59:25,630 with about nine attractive women in their, maybe thirties. 1118 00:59:25,663 --> 00:59:27,965 He'd go over, and he'd tap one on the shoulder, 1119 00:59:27,998 --> 00:59:29,266 and she'd look up at him, 1120 00:59:29,299 --> 00:59:30,768 you know, he's 35 years older and... 1121 00:59:30,801 --> 00:59:33,137 "Hey, uh, hey, would you like to dance?" 1122 00:59:33,170 --> 00:59:35,105 And, "No." 1123 00:59:35,139 --> 00:59:37,574 And then, "Ok." You know, he'd go to the next one, 1124 00:59:38,809 --> 00:59:40,778 "Hey, how about you, would you like to dance?" 1125 00:59:40,811 --> 00:59:42,279 "I don't think so." 1126 00:59:42,312 --> 00:59:43,714 But he went right around the table to, 1127 00:59:43,748 --> 00:59:45,315 about the fifth or sixth one, 1128 00:59:45,349 --> 00:59:47,184 and the most attractive even. 1129 00:59:47,217 --> 00:59:48,452 And she said, "Sure, I'll dance." 1130 00:59:48,485 --> 00:59:50,254 And they went up, and they disappeared, 1131 00:59:50,287 --> 00:59:53,758 and we never saw him again for three days. [chuckles] 1132 00:59:53,791 --> 00:59:55,459 Persistence pays off. 1133 00:59:55,492 --> 00:59:57,027 [Fred] Something like that? 1134 00:59:57,061 --> 00:59:58,262 -Yeah. It's good. -[Annie Musselman] Yeah. 1135 00:59:58,295 --> 00:59:59,329 [camera shutter clicks] 1136 00:59:59,363 --> 01:00:02,099 You want me to smile or grouch or... 1137 01:00:02,132 --> 01:00:05,069 [woman laughing] 1138 01:00:05,102 --> 01:00:07,337 [laughing] You're great. 1139 01:00:07,371 --> 01:00:11,175 -[Fred] You're tall, what are you, 5'8"? 5'9"? 5'8". -[Annie] 5'8", yeah, and a half. 1140 01:00:11,208 --> 01:00:13,510 [Fred] You haven't done any rock climbing at all? 1141 01:00:13,543 --> 01:00:16,280 -[Fred] It's all right. -[Annie] Kinda scary. 1142 01:00:16,313 --> 01:00:18,082 -[Fred] Yeah, sorta. -[Annie] You don't think? 1143 01:00:18,115 --> 01:00:20,050 -[Fred] It is scary. -[Annie] Yeah. 1144 01:00:20,084 --> 01:00:21,518 [Fred] But lots of of other things are scary. 1145 01:00:21,551 --> 01:00:23,620 [Annie] Yeah, that's true. 1146 01:00:25,422 --> 01:00:27,324 [Corey] Fred Beckey in his late 80s 1147 01:00:27,357 --> 01:00:30,327 is more motivated for expeditions 1148 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,597 and has more ideas for what he would like to climb 1149 01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:35,365 than any other climber, 1150 01:00:35,399 --> 01:00:37,501 and it's because he's thinking about this stuff 1151 01:00:37,534 --> 01:00:41,405 24/7 for 80-plus years. 1152 01:00:41,438 --> 01:00:44,574 [Yvon] Still now, he's not staying in motels, 1153 01:00:44,608 --> 01:00:46,677 he's sleeping on the side of the road 1154 01:00:46,711 --> 01:00:48,612 and hasn't changed at all. 1155 01:00:48,645 --> 01:00:51,348 [Fred] OK. 1156 01:00:51,381 --> 01:00:52,750 I guess we're out of here. 1157 01:00:52,783 --> 01:00:56,253 I probably won't get back till July 12, 14th, maybe. 1158 01:00:56,286 --> 01:00:58,622 -[Dave] Mm-hmm. -I'm not sure, you know. 1159 01:01:05,162 --> 01:01:06,596 [Barry] One way you knew you made 1160 01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:09,233 the North American climbing landscape 1161 01:01:09,266 --> 01:01:11,368 was you'd get your first Fred Beckey phone calls... 1162 01:01:11,401 --> 01:01:13,203 [beep] 1163 01:01:13,237 --> 01:01:15,339 [Fred] Fred Beckey, let's get together on a climb. 1164 01:01:15,372 --> 01:01:17,407 Actually I'm taking off, I hope today. 1165 01:01:17,441 --> 01:01:19,609 I'm trying to get something together to go to Canada... 1166 01:01:19,643 --> 01:01:21,078 Yeah, I'm hot to go on this thing 1167 01:01:21,111 --> 01:01:22,346 as soon as we can get mobilized. 1168 01:01:22,379 --> 01:01:24,281 [Don] In a way, you look forward 1169 01:01:24,314 --> 01:01:26,150 to communications with Fred, 1170 01:01:26,183 --> 01:01:28,218 and in a way you looked a little bit with dread 1171 01:01:28,252 --> 01:01:30,420 at the next time he's going to give you a call. 1172 01:01:30,454 --> 01:01:34,391 Right now, I don't know what I'm doing except tomorrow. 1173 01:01:34,424 --> 01:01:36,727 I have no idea. 1174 01:01:36,761 --> 01:01:38,662 Are you in Alaska? 1175 01:01:38,695 --> 01:01:41,065 OK, you just got back? 1176 01:01:41,098 --> 01:01:43,567 I've been trying to get hold of you, as you probably know. 1177 01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,537 [Steve] He was persuasive, yeah. He'd get you the phone. 1178 01:01:47,571 --> 01:01:50,607 He'd analyze the weather-- the "weddah," as he called it. 1179 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,977 [Fred] Called the weather man, it's supposed to be good. 1180 01:01:53,010 --> 01:01:54,478 What do you think of this awful summer weather? 1181 01:01:54,511 --> 01:01:56,046 I was trying to call Canada today 1182 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,482 and I may call some ranger up there like the ice fields 1183 01:01:58,515 --> 01:02:00,951 and get an idea what is really happening. 1184 01:02:00,985 --> 01:02:03,687 [Jack Tackle] How many thousands of people have gotten a call 1185 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,256 in the middle of the night, you know, "What's the weather doing there?" 1186 01:02:06,290 --> 01:02:08,392 "Well, Fred, it's fucking dark out, I don't know. 1187 01:02:08,425 --> 01:02:11,061 [Fred] I think conditions here are pretty darn good right now. 1188 01:02:11,095 --> 01:02:12,362 The weather's excellent. 1189 01:02:12,396 --> 01:02:13,597 Actually got room for another guy. 1190 01:02:13,630 --> 01:02:15,299 Three would be perfect. 1191 01:02:15,332 --> 01:02:16,633 [Alex] He would do his best 1192 01:02:16,666 --> 01:02:19,103 to convince a guy to go climbing. 1193 01:02:19,136 --> 01:02:20,771 [Fred] You're pushing your luck sometimes, 1194 01:02:20,805 --> 01:02:23,640 like you might get high blood pressure by just working too hard. 1195 01:02:23,673 --> 01:02:25,943 [Alex] He'd hound you until you caved in. 1196 01:02:25,976 --> 01:02:28,212 [Erik Harz] He will not rest until you call him back. 1197 01:02:28,245 --> 01:02:29,513 There's no blowing off Fred. 1198 01:02:29,546 --> 01:02:30,848 [Fred] Shit! 1199 01:02:30,881 --> 01:02:32,116 [Erik] Especially if he knows where you live, 1200 01:02:32,149 --> 01:02:34,018 like, you don't know, he could just, 1201 01:02:34,051 --> 01:02:36,353 -like, show up at your house. -[Fred] I'm Fred Beckey, remember me. 1202 01:02:36,386 --> 01:02:38,022 Hey, we're right in front of your house! 1203 01:02:38,055 --> 01:02:40,390 Fucking system, I got to do something about this. 1204 01:02:40,424 --> 01:02:41,691 I'm on your street, 1205 01:02:41,725 --> 01:02:44,261 but I don't know where your place is. Gonna stop by. 1206 01:02:44,294 --> 01:02:46,030 Well, are you the one with the fence? 1207 01:02:46,063 --> 01:02:49,033 [Todd] If you've ever seen Fred's filing system 1208 01:02:49,066 --> 01:02:51,068 it's a series of different cards 1209 01:02:51,101 --> 01:02:53,203 rubber banded together, in different areas. 1210 01:02:53,237 --> 01:02:55,272 Phone numbers scratched out, 1211 01:02:55,305 --> 01:02:56,773 more current phone numbers, addresses, 1212 01:02:56,807 --> 01:02:58,542 what days a person has off. 1213 01:02:58,575 --> 01:03:00,344 I've seen him fill this out on the phone. 1214 01:03:00,377 --> 01:03:01,846 "So, what days are you off again?" 1215 01:03:01,879 --> 01:03:04,014 And, "Oh, Thursdays and Fridays, 1216 01:03:04,048 --> 01:03:05,682 I can climb with this guy." 1217 01:03:05,715 --> 01:03:08,352 He thinks nothing of making that late night phone call. 1218 01:03:08,385 --> 01:03:10,354 He just pulls in and just would throw his sleeping bag 1219 01:03:10,387 --> 01:03:12,522 down in our driveway and crash out. 1220 01:03:12,556 --> 01:03:14,591 I remember having kids walk past 1221 01:03:14,624 --> 01:03:17,061 in the morning going to school. One of the kids said, 1222 01:03:17,094 --> 01:03:19,396 "Why do you make your grandpa sleep in the driveway?" 1223 01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:24,401 [Alex] In the early '60s, 1224 01:03:24,434 --> 01:03:27,504 Shiprock only had one route on it. 1225 01:03:27,537 --> 01:03:29,773 So, any other ascent 1226 01:03:29,806 --> 01:03:34,278 would result in a first ascent, and that was Fred's forte. 1227 01:03:34,311 --> 01:03:38,115 So he tried to recruit Eric Bjornstad and me 1228 01:03:38,148 --> 01:03:39,483 to do the climb with him, 1229 01:03:39,516 --> 01:03:43,553 and Eric agreed to go with them and I didn't. 1230 01:03:46,223 --> 01:03:48,425 [Eric] When we went to Shiprock in the early '60s, 1231 01:03:48,458 --> 01:03:51,128 the lady that I was going with at the time 1232 01:03:51,161 --> 01:03:54,731 had tattoos over about 80% of her body. 1233 01:03:54,764 --> 01:03:56,800 And Fred just hated her. 1234 01:03:58,702 --> 01:04:01,338 [Fred] I really don't even know why he brought her. 1235 01:04:01,371 --> 01:04:03,040 She was not a climber. 1236 01:04:03,073 --> 01:04:05,642 What was she gonna do there all that time? 1237 01:04:05,675 --> 01:04:08,778 You know, I think it was a really bad choice. 1238 01:04:08,812 --> 01:04:12,216 [Eric] I spent 20 days on the Southwest Buttress of Shiprock 1239 01:04:12,249 --> 01:04:14,284 with Fred and this lady, 1240 01:04:14,318 --> 01:04:16,420 and finally had a falling out with Fred. 1241 01:04:16,453 --> 01:04:19,056 [Alex] When Eric decided to quit, 1242 01:04:19,089 --> 01:04:20,390 Fred just couldn't handle it. 1243 01:04:20,424 --> 01:04:22,726 And of course they were out there 1244 01:04:22,759 --> 01:04:24,428 in Fred's Thunderbird. 1245 01:04:24,461 --> 01:04:26,997 Fred wouldn't even take Eric to the bus station, 1246 01:04:27,031 --> 01:04:31,068 so, Eric and his girlfriend had to walk across the desert. 1247 01:04:31,101 --> 01:04:33,270 [Eric] We hiked back out to the highway, 1248 01:04:33,303 --> 01:04:34,471 which was several miles, 1249 01:04:34,504 --> 01:04:37,274 and then hitchhiked back to Seattle, 1250 01:04:37,307 --> 01:04:38,742 and Fred would dog us 1251 01:04:38,775 --> 01:04:42,012 he would follow us in the car staying within view... 1252 01:04:42,046 --> 01:04:43,280 and then as we'd get let off, 1253 01:04:43,313 --> 01:04:46,516 he would drive by slowly. [chuckles] 1254 01:04:46,550 --> 01:04:50,354 And he did that all the way into Oregon. 1255 01:04:50,387 --> 01:04:51,721 He then got on the phone, 1256 01:04:51,755 --> 01:04:54,458 you know, every few hours and would call me 1257 01:04:54,491 --> 01:04:57,127 at my office, and so when the phone would ring, 1258 01:04:57,161 --> 01:04:58,528 the boss would answer the phone 1259 01:04:58,562 --> 01:05:00,397 and it'd be long distance 1260 01:05:00,430 --> 01:05:05,302 and it'd be a long discourse of how great the climb is, 1261 01:05:05,335 --> 01:05:07,337 and how good the conditions are. 1262 01:05:07,371 --> 01:05:08,772 "Oh, yeah, Eric, 1263 01:05:08,805 --> 01:05:10,507 you know, lost interest, you know, 1264 01:05:10,540 --> 01:05:13,110 there was no big problem." Which was all a lie. 1265 01:05:13,143 --> 01:05:15,379 My boss started getting angry with me 1266 01:05:15,412 --> 01:05:17,514 because, you know, I was getting paid by the hour. 1267 01:05:17,547 --> 01:05:20,284 I figured, hey, I've got a raise coming, 1268 01:05:20,317 --> 01:05:22,319 So, I kind of 1269 01:05:22,352 --> 01:05:23,487 asked my boss for the raise, 1270 01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,255 and when he didn't give me the raise, 1271 01:05:25,289 --> 01:05:28,158 it was a good excuse to quit and join Fred. 1272 01:05:28,192 --> 01:05:29,359 [Fred] When Eric and I were there, 1273 01:05:29,393 --> 01:05:31,628 it was too windy, too cold. 1274 01:05:31,661 --> 01:05:34,431 And when Alex came, everything changed. 1275 01:05:34,464 --> 01:05:36,266 It got too warm. 1276 01:05:36,300 --> 01:05:39,269 [Alex] We were within 200 feet of the summit 1277 01:05:39,303 --> 01:05:43,373 when Fred decided that we couldn't go any further 1278 01:05:43,407 --> 01:05:46,610 because we only maybe had a cup of water left 1279 01:05:46,643 --> 01:05:49,213 in our last bottle. 1280 01:05:49,246 --> 01:05:52,416 He was adamant about going down, 1281 01:05:52,449 --> 01:05:54,584 and I was adamant about going up. 1282 01:05:54,618 --> 01:05:59,023 And Fred, I think, almost had a nervous breakdown. 1283 01:05:59,056 --> 01:06:02,359 Eventually I felt exhausted just arguing with him 1284 01:06:02,392 --> 01:06:03,660 and I said, "OK, let's go down, 1285 01:06:03,693 --> 01:06:06,130 but I'm not coming back up again." 1286 01:06:06,163 --> 01:06:07,697 And he said, "That's fine." 1287 01:06:07,731 --> 01:06:11,068 [Fred] Luckily I'd been in touch with Harvey Carter, 1288 01:06:11,101 --> 01:06:12,669 who I'd climbed with before. 1289 01:06:12,702 --> 01:06:15,339 [Eric] Harvey came out and met Fred at Shiprock, 1290 01:06:15,372 --> 01:06:18,208 and within half a day they reached the summit. 1291 01:06:18,242 --> 01:06:19,476 So, the first ascent of the southwest buttress 1292 01:06:19,509 --> 01:06:22,279 was Fred Beckey and Harvey Carter. 1293 01:06:22,312 --> 01:06:24,248 But Alex had spent a whole week on the climb 1294 01:06:24,281 --> 01:06:27,584 and I'd spent 20 days on the climb. 1295 01:06:35,659 --> 01:06:38,362 [Don] We have an important announcement. 1296 01:06:38,395 --> 01:06:41,198 We're standing on the summit of Mt. Seattle. 1297 01:06:52,209 --> 01:06:56,480 [Don] The culture of that time was one of personal pride. 1298 01:06:56,513 --> 01:06:59,283 If you were a climber, you kind of felt 1299 01:06:59,316 --> 01:07:02,286 that you were a little bit special. 1300 01:07:02,319 --> 01:07:04,688 [Eric] It was very appealing to do something 1301 01:07:04,721 --> 01:07:06,590 that few other people could do. 1302 01:07:06,623 --> 01:07:10,394 And back in the 60s it was pretty esoteric, you know. 1303 01:07:10,427 --> 01:07:13,597 Why people climb now I think is totally different. 1304 01:07:13,630 --> 01:07:16,066 [Peter] Some people talk about the sport of mountaineering, 1305 01:07:16,100 --> 01:07:18,502 or the sport of climbing, and for me it's just, 1306 01:07:18,535 --> 01:07:21,571 what sport is so much about is rules. 1307 01:07:21,605 --> 01:07:23,607 You have to follow the rules, 1308 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,576 I think what defines being up in the mountains and climbing, 1309 01:07:26,610 --> 01:07:29,613 is that there is no rules. 1310 01:07:29,646 --> 01:07:33,750 [Ed Cooper] It was a fierce competition in those days. 1311 01:07:33,783 --> 01:07:35,252 We didn't really get along well. 1312 01:07:35,285 --> 01:07:37,387 I had my ideas of what I wanted to do, 1313 01:07:37,421 --> 01:07:40,157 and he had his ideas of what he wanted to do. 1314 01:07:40,190 --> 01:07:42,392 The first ascents were the thing. 1315 01:07:42,426 --> 01:07:44,027 [Fred] Cooper might have been one that... 1316 01:07:44,060 --> 01:07:45,395 he was interested, maybe sometimes interested 1317 01:07:45,429 --> 01:07:47,564 in the same climbs I was, 1318 01:07:47,597 --> 01:07:49,032 and that's fine! 1319 01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:51,301 You know, there was some competition. 1320 01:07:51,335 --> 01:07:54,238 But sometimes I joined him on climbs, too. 1321 01:07:54,271 --> 01:07:57,341 [Ed Cooper] It became a little bit of a game. 1322 01:07:57,374 --> 01:08:00,710 He wouldn't tell his partners where they were going, 1323 01:08:00,744 --> 01:08:03,313 in case the weather turned bad and they never got there, 1324 01:08:03,347 --> 01:08:05,249 then he wouldn't tip 'em off 1325 01:08:05,282 --> 01:08:07,717 about this first ascent that he wants to do. 1326 01:08:11,821 --> 01:08:14,391 [Alex] Fred was only focused on climbing, 1327 01:08:14,424 --> 01:08:18,562 and his partners had to be dedicated the same way. 1328 01:08:18,595 --> 01:08:21,765 And he never felt sorry for you 1329 01:08:21,798 --> 01:08:24,534 if your climbing ended up in a divorce. 1330 01:08:24,568 --> 01:08:27,704 [Dave] He's had to leave a few burning bridges behind, 1331 01:08:27,737 --> 01:08:31,341 in order to live the life that he's wanted to live. 1332 01:08:31,375 --> 01:08:34,378 [Eric] He went through dozens and dozens of climbers. 1333 01:08:34,411 --> 01:08:36,746 He would have falling-outs with them, 1334 01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:38,848 and he was a difficult person to be around, 1335 01:08:38,882 --> 01:08:40,517 but I got along well with him 1336 01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:42,352 because I admired Fred for his climbing ability 1337 01:08:42,386 --> 01:08:44,621 and just overlooked the other faults 1338 01:08:44,654 --> 01:08:46,290 that he might have had. 1339 01:08:46,323 --> 01:08:49,493 [Nick] Now, climbers are a pretty single-minded bunch. 1340 01:08:49,526 --> 01:08:52,529 But he's more single-minded than the single-minded bunch. 1341 01:08:52,562 --> 01:08:55,532 People thought I was a fanatic, they thought my friends were fanatics, 1342 01:08:55,565 --> 01:08:58,502 and that's nothing, nothing compared to Fred! 1343 01:08:58,535 --> 01:09:02,005 [Ed] He would kind of talk almost constantly. 1344 01:09:02,038 --> 01:09:04,441 [Yvon] Fred will wear you down. [chuckles] 1345 01:09:04,474 --> 01:09:07,644 He'll repeat the same thing over and over again, 1346 01:09:07,677 --> 01:09:10,180 and that can drive you nuts. 1347 01:09:10,214 --> 01:09:12,349 [Alex] There were three subjects that he would talk about. 1348 01:09:12,382 --> 01:09:17,086 Of course, the first one is mountains. The other, of course, weather. 1349 01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,423 And the other subject was women-- 1350 01:09:19,456 --> 01:09:22,426 women he'd dated, women that he wanted to date. 1351 01:09:22,459 --> 01:09:24,994 Women he should have dated. 1352 01:09:25,028 --> 01:09:28,031 Those were the three subjects that you were stuck with 1353 01:09:28,064 --> 01:09:31,335 when you were in a tent with Fred. 1354 01:09:31,368 --> 01:09:33,203 [Dave] You think people considered you 1355 01:09:33,237 --> 01:09:35,205 sort of a renegade climber? 1356 01:09:35,239 --> 01:09:37,507 They probably think I'm pretty independent. 1357 01:09:39,209 --> 01:09:41,611 That's all right, I don't care what they think. 1358 01:09:41,645 --> 01:09:43,380 I could care less. 1359 01:09:46,416 --> 01:09:49,118 [Timothy] There was a school of thought that he was unsafe, 1360 01:09:49,152 --> 01:09:53,423 that what comes with being a spectacular pioneer 1361 01:09:53,457 --> 01:09:55,392 is recklessness. 1362 01:09:55,425 --> 01:09:57,661 People died climbing with him. 1363 01:09:57,694 --> 01:10:01,197 [Dave] Have you lost a lot of friends in the mountains? 1364 01:10:01,231 --> 01:10:06,703 [Fred] A few, yeah. Dick Berge on Mt. Baring. 1365 01:10:06,736 --> 01:10:08,338 That was a bad one. 1366 01:10:08,372 --> 01:10:12,476 And we lost Charles Shiverick in an accident 1367 01:10:12,509 --> 01:10:15,745 on Mt. Serra in the Mt. Waddington area... 1368 01:10:15,779 --> 01:10:18,181 or Waddington Range. 1369 01:10:18,214 --> 01:10:19,416 Very unfortunate. 1370 01:10:19,449 --> 01:10:22,085 I feel very, very, very bad about it. 1371 01:10:22,118 --> 01:10:25,755 Many climbers have lost some of their best friends climbing. 1372 01:10:25,789 --> 01:10:28,325 it's not for everybody. 1373 01:10:28,358 --> 01:10:30,193 It definitely is not. 1374 01:10:30,226 --> 01:10:32,095 [Timothy] There is an element of luck 1375 01:10:32,128 --> 01:10:35,465 involved in these risky sports. 1376 01:10:35,499 --> 01:10:37,534 They never pinned the blame specifically on him 1377 01:10:37,567 --> 01:10:39,068 for these deaths. 1378 01:10:39,102 --> 01:10:41,371 It was more like, he lived and they didn't. 1379 01:10:41,405 --> 01:10:43,440 They took the fatal wrong step. 1380 01:10:43,473 --> 01:10:46,242 But, there was enough there for the gossips 1381 01:10:46,276 --> 01:10:49,613 that he developed a bad reputation. 1382 01:10:50,780 --> 01:10:52,782 [Fred] If risk appealed to me, 1383 01:10:52,816 --> 01:10:59,155 I'd go out in the jungle and you know, hang around the lions. 1384 01:10:59,188 --> 01:11:01,057 [Ed Cooper] He was, to my knowledge, 1385 01:11:01,090 --> 01:11:04,694 never injured seriously in an accident. 1386 01:11:04,728 --> 01:11:06,330 That's quite a feat 1387 01:11:06,363 --> 01:11:09,065 with all the climbing that he has done. 1388 01:11:09,098 --> 01:11:10,867 [Layton] You were guaranteed 1389 01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:12,001 going back in the mountains with Fred, 1390 01:11:12,035 --> 01:11:13,670 you weren't gonna get lost at least. 1391 01:11:13,703 --> 01:11:16,272 He knew exactly where he was all the time. 1392 01:11:16,306 --> 01:11:18,675 He'd spent enough years in the mountains to know 1393 01:11:18,708 --> 01:11:22,011 that if you were gonna continue doing this sort of thing and survive, 1394 01:11:22,045 --> 01:11:24,247 well, you gotta be careful. 1395 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,116 [Yvon] The reason I'm alive today is probably because of Fred 1396 01:11:27,150 --> 01:11:30,520 and the things I learned alpine climbing with him. 1397 01:11:30,554 --> 01:11:34,524 There were probably 250 serious climbers in America. 1398 01:11:34,558 --> 01:11:36,726 I didn't know who Fred was when I first met him, 1399 01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,162 but then I started realizing that 1400 01:11:39,195 --> 01:11:41,731 he's one of the few guys 1401 01:11:41,765 --> 01:11:46,102 that actually searched out hard alpine climbs. 1402 01:11:49,138 --> 01:11:52,075 [vintage narrator] Beautiful Mt. Edith Cavell in Canada. 1403 01:11:52,108 --> 01:11:53,443 Many have wanted to scale 1404 01:11:53,477 --> 01:11:55,412 the North Face of this mountain, 1405 01:11:55,445 --> 01:11:59,649 but no one has ever dared it before. 1406 01:11:59,683 --> 01:12:03,152 [Yvon] When we tried to sign out with the park warden, 1407 01:12:03,186 --> 01:12:05,722 he wouldn't sign us out, he said, "It's suicide." 1408 01:12:05,755 --> 01:12:08,257 And so we said, "OK, we're gonna go do it anyway." 1409 01:12:09,626 --> 01:12:13,630 [vintage narrator] 7:00 a.m., the men set out, 1410 01:12:13,663 --> 01:12:16,099 to risk their lives, 1411 01:12:16,132 --> 01:12:18,167 and there it is. 1412 01:12:20,570 --> 01:12:25,308 Are they worried? You doggone right, they are! 1413 01:12:25,341 --> 01:12:28,745 But the goal is greater than fear. 1414 01:12:28,778 --> 01:12:32,315 [Barry] It's an interesting combination where you have Yvon, 1415 01:12:32,348 --> 01:12:34,317 the young Yosemite specialist, 1416 01:12:34,350 --> 01:12:36,620 apprentice to the master mountain climber. 1417 01:12:36,653 --> 01:12:40,490 [vintage narrator] Not many of us can endure such a prolonged struggle. 1418 01:12:40,524 --> 01:12:44,961 But Yvon and Fred and Dan keep their goal in mind. 1419 01:12:44,994 --> 01:12:48,131 [Fred] We knew we could climb the peak as far as the difficulty goes. 1420 01:12:48,164 --> 01:12:52,569 The danger is rock fall and possible avalanches. 1421 01:12:52,602 --> 01:12:55,304 We had a bad lightning storm that pretty much frightened us. 1422 01:12:55,338 --> 01:12:59,208 So, that night we bivouacked 500 feet below the summit. 1423 01:13:09,118 --> 01:13:12,155 [vintage narrator] Suddenly, the struggle is over. 1424 01:13:12,188 --> 01:13:14,257 And they become the first men in history 1425 01:13:14,290 --> 01:13:16,960 to climb the dangerous North Face 1426 01:13:16,993 --> 01:13:19,629 of the summit of Mt. Edith Cavell. 1427 01:13:19,663 --> 01:13:21,565 There'll be time to congratulate themselves later, 1428 01:13:21,598 --> 01:13:24,000 when they return to the everyday world 1429 01:13:24,033 --> 01:13:25,669 where congratulations matter. 1430 01:13:25,702 --> 01:13:27,370 [Yvon] We got back down, 1431 01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:29,673 and there was a note on our car from the warden that said, 1432 01:13:29,706 --> 01:13:31,608 "Good work, boys." 1433 01:13:35,512 --> 01:13:37,280 [Fred] After we climbed Edith Cavell, 1434 01:13:37,313 --> 01:13:39,215 Chouinard and I went to the Bugaboos 1435 01:13:39,248 --> 01:13:41,618 and that's when we had our eyes set 1436 01:13:41,651 --> 01:13:42,986 on the South Tower of Howser. 1437 01:13:43,019 --> 01:13:44,521 That's the ultimate in climbing, 1438 01:13:44,554 --> 01:13:47,724 is to do a first descent on a beautiful line. 1439 01:13:54,430 --> 01:13:56,165 [Conrad] Fred's a climber's climber. 1440 01:13:56,199 --> 01:14:00,036 He chose to do good routes that were challenging, 1441 01:14:00,069 --> 01:14:02,038 that were aesthetically beautiful. 1442 01:14:02,071 --> 01:14:07,010 [Jim] He has an artist's eye for the lines. 1443 01:14:07,043 --> 01:14:09,546 [Corey] What Fred has given back to climbing 1444 01:14:09,579 --> 01:14:11,447 is thousands of routes. 1445 01:14:11,481 --> 01:14:13,316 [Jim] There's probably no human being on the planet 1446 01:14:13,349 --> 01:14:15,384 that has more routes named after him. 1447 01:14:15,418 --> 01:14:18,221 The Beckey this, the Beckey that, the Beckey Direct, 1448 01:14:18,254 --> 01:14:19,589 the Beckey... [laughs] 1449 01:14:19,623 --> 01:14:23,292 [Steve Gunn] * Hey mister shadow wreck 1450 01:14:25,962 --> 01:14:29,265 * Cruel and dusted mind 1451 01:14:29,298 --> 01:14:31,568 [Jim] He was a very good researcher, 1452 01:14:31,601 --> 01:14:33,202 which gave rise whether or not 1453 01:14:33,236 --> 01:14:35,539 this mythological notebook actually exists. 1454 01:14:35,572 --> 01:14:39,108 [Todd] You've always heard about this black book that Fred Beckey has. 1455 01:14:39,142 --> 01:14:41,077 [Dave] Of all the unclimbed peaks 1456 01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:42,612 that he still wanted to do. 1457 01:14:42,646 --> 01:14:44,614 [Peter] It's become legendary in American climbing. 1458 01:14:44,648 --> 01:14:48,451 People whisper that somebody found the black book. 1459 01:14:48,484 --> 01:14:49,553 [Todd] The black book... 1460 01:14:49,586 --> 01:14:50,754 [Fred] There's no black book. 1461 01:14:50,787 --> 01:14:53,222 That was in the haul bag until Tehipite Dome. 1462 01:14:53,256 --> 01:14:54,223 No. 1463 01:14:54,257 --> 01:14:55,725 I don't know of any black book. 1464 01:14:55,759 --> 01:14:57,426 I would never have put a black book... 1465 01:14:57,460 --> 01:15:00,229 Why would I put a black book in a haul bag? 1466 01:15:00,263 --> 01:15:02,431 I mean, it doesn't make sense. People make up stories. 1467 01:15:02,465 --> 01:15:04,133 I've never had a black book. 1468 01:15:04,167 --> 01:15:06,135 [Alex] He didn't need a black book. 1469 01:15:06,169 --> 01:15:10,607 He remembered every mountain that he ever saw pictures of, 1470 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,109 or climbed, 1471 01:15:13,142 --> 01:15:15,745 or from the summit looking over to the next range. 1472 01:15:15,779 --> 01:15:17,446 He knew what he wanted to climb, 1473 01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:21,184 and he remembered those details. 1474 01:15:25,288 --> 01:15:26,723 [beep] 1475 01:15:26,756 --> 01:15:29,292 [Fred] Hey, listen. I'm planning on heading down 1476 01:15:29,325 --> 01:15:31,227 for Russell and Whitney in a few days. 1477 01:15:31,260 --> 01:15:34,497 But we wanted one more climber, we need somebody, 1478 01:15:34,530 --> 01:15:36,432 but so far we've had no luck. 1479 01:15:36,465 --> 01:15:38,401 I've called about 35 people, 1480 01:15:38,434 --> 01:15:40,604 this is the only way I can do it this year. 1481 01:15:40,637 --> 01:15:42,572 It's the only way. 1482 01:15:54,517 --> 01:15:56,319 [Yvon] The fact that he still has these high standards 1483 01:15:56,352 --> 01:15:58,487 of routes that he wants to do, 1484 01:15:58,521 --> 01:16:02,258 and he's really, we all know he's really not capable of doing 'em. 1485 01:16:02,291 --> 01:16:07,363 I don't think it's ego, I think he's just an idealist. 1486 01:16:12,035 --> 01:16:13,637 Fred loves the mountains. 1487 01:16:13,670 --> 01:16:16,139 And he still wants that lifestyle 1488 01:16:16,172 --> 01:16:18,074 of having his car full of gear, 1489 01:16:18,107 --> 01:16:19,676 just in case. 1490 01:16:22,646 --> 01:16:24,147 He's a climber. 1491 01:16:24,180 --> 01:16:28,251 He's not gonna give up till his last breath. 1492 01:16:28,284 --> 01:16:32,021 [Jim] You know, you damn well wouldn't want your kid, 1493 01:16:32,055 --> 01:16:33,156 to grow up to be Fred Beckey 1494 01:16:33,189 --> 01:16:35,725 because of this exclusive focus, 1495 01:16:35,759 --> 01:16:39,562 this unnatural focus. 1496 01:16:39,595 --> 01:16:41,497 [Timothy] Other people have moved on. 1497 01:16:41,530 --> 01:16:43,532 They had normal lives, they had families, 1498 01:16:43,566 --> 01:16:46,502 they had wives, they have grandkids now. 1499 01:16:46,535 --> 01:16:49,438 They have their place in history. Fred never did. 1500 01:16:49,472 --> 01:16:52,709 In some cases, he may be a sad lonely man 1501 01:16:52,742 --> 01:16:54,177 who doesn't have anything. 1502 01:16:54,210 --> 01:16:56,445 But I think he also appreciates the fact 1503 01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,515 that he can still do what most of us can't. 1504 01:17:05,121 --> 01:17:08,257 [Dave] There's almost this morbid 1505 01:17:08,291 --> 01:17:11,961 fear of being the one who's with Fred when he goes. 1506 01:17:11,995 --> 01:17:13,863 Am I gonna be the one who's known 1507 01:17:13,897 --> 01:17:15,598 as the guy who killed Fred Beckey? 1508 01:17:15,631 --> 01:17:19,102 -[Dave] I can grab your pack, Fred. -[Fred] Ah, that's OK, buddy. 1509 01:17:19,135 --> 01:17:20,569 I feel guilty. 1510 01:17:20,603 --> 01:17:22,672 [Dave] Hey, Fred! 1511 01:17:22,706 --> 01:17:25,975 -[Fred] I got a guilt trip. -[Dave] No, the main thing is that you get up high. 1512 01:17:26,009 --> 01:17:29,378 -It doesn't matter how you get there. -Yeah, it does. 1513 01:17:38,187 --> 01:17:40,223 [Yvon] When I see him, I think, "Gosh, 1514 01:17:40,256 --> 01:17:43,492 he's so much smaller than I remember." 1515 01:17:43,526 --> 01:17:47,163 I remember him being so much taller and straight. 1516 01:17:47,196 --> 01:17:50,599 Now he's getting... you know... 1517 01:17:50,633 --> 01:17:53,169 Like all of us, he's getting there. 1518 01:18:03,212 --> 01:18:04,647 [Dave] What do you think? 1519 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:07,116 [Fred] I don't know, man. 1520 01:18:07,150 --> 01:18:09,385 Don't take movies of me, shit. 1521 01:18:11,154 --> 01:18:13,056 I used to just run up here. 1522 01:18:13,089 --> 01:18:15,091 Maybe not run but... 1523 01:18:23,232 --> 01:18:25,969 You better save your battery. 1524 01:18:26,002 --> 01:18:28,704 I'm aware that you're trying to make a movie, 1525 01:18:28,738 --> 01:18:31,440 you want to get some climbing footage? 1526 01:18:31,474 --> 01:18:34,210 You want to get a movie about climbing, not backpacking. 1527 01:18:34,243 --> 01:18:37,080 Me walking uphill, crossing creeks. 1528 01:18:37,113 --> 01:18:40,183 I mean, OK, but how much of that is valuable? 1529 01:18:40,216 --> 01:18:41,684 I don't know. 1530 01:18:51,027 --> 01:18:53,496 [Dave] How you feeling, Fred? 1531 01:18:53,529 --> 01:18:55,431 I don't know. 1532 01:18:55,464 --> 01:18:58,367 I just... 1533 01:18:58,401 --> 01:19:00,669 Let me lay on my ass here for a minute. 1534 01:19:00,703 --> 01:19:02,505 Fucking lungs. 1535 01:19:02,538 --> 01:19:04,107 I mean, fuck, 1536 01:19:04,140 --> 01:19:07,443 I can't believe it's taken three days to get here. 1537 01:19:07,476 --> 01:19:11,514 I don't think I can cut the climb, I got no fuckin' energy. 1538 01:19:13,016 --> 01:19:15,351 We're goin' so fuckin' slow, I'm embarrassed. 1539 01:19:15,384 --> 01:19:18,487 It's ridiculous. 1540 01:19:18,521 --> 01:19:21,190 I don't know what the fuck is wrong. 1541 01:19:24,227 --> 01:19:27,163 Yeah, maybe we just ought to might bail. I don't know. 1542 01:19:27,196 --> 01:19:30,066 I just don't know how I'm gonna feel. 1543 01:19:35,338 --> 01:19:40,243 I hate to do it. It pisses me off. 1544 01:19:42,211 --> 01:19:45,348 -[Dave] Should we get going? -Yeah. 1545 01:19:45,381 --> 01:19:48,084 It's probably the smartest move. 1546 01:19:48,117 --> 01:19:49,953 I never deliberate this much. 1547 01:19:49,986 --> 01:19:52,588 Either I'm gonna do something or I don't do it. 1548 01:20:06,535 --> 01:20:09,205 [Steve] Well, I think today, Fred, with his age, 1549 01:20:09,238 --> 01:20:11,107 that he keeps going, and he's kind of living 1550 01:20:11,140 --> 01:20:15,511 on memories and living on a dream, 1551 01:20:15,544 --> 01:20:17,213 that he can still do it. 1552 01:20:17,246 --> 01:20:19,415 I say more power to him. 1553 01:20:19,448 --> 01:20:23,252 You know, if he does fall off a steep trail or something, 1554 01:20:23,286 --> 01:20:26,189 I don't think he'd have it any other way. 1555 01:20:36,232 --> 01:20:39,435 It's hard to tell, was he just driven 1556 01:20:39,468 --> 01:20:42,605 because through what he did would become immortal in a way? 1557 01:20:42,638 --> 01:20:44,173 Which it will. 1558 01:20:52,648 --> 01:20:59,622 [people chattering] 1559 01:20:59,655 --> 01:21:01,690 Come on, be more like Beckey. 1560 01:21:09,165 --> 01:21:10,599 -Take care. Yeah. -[man] Good to meet you. 1561 01:21:10,633 --> 01:21:12,568 -Don't lose the books. -I won't, don't worry! 1562 01:21:12,601 --> 01:21:14,437 In recent years, 1563 01:21:14,470 --> 01:21:16,739 there have been a number of people who have recognized him 1564 01:21:16,772 --> 01:21:20,176 for what he is, the last of a dying breed 1565 01:21:20,209 --> 01:21:23,112 of wilderness explorers. 1566 01:21:31,487 --> 01:21:33,456 [cheering & applause] 1567 01:21:40,629 --> 01:21:42,198 [people laughing] 1568 01:21:56,679 --> 01:22:01,150 I was perfectly OK, until about three years ago. 1569 01:22:01,184 --> 01:22:05,188 Up in the Canadian Rockies, I started feeling funny. 1570 01:22:05,221 --> 01:22:07,690 Don't know what it is. 1571 01:22:07,723 --> 01:22:09,458 I'm probably lucky to be alive. 1572 01:22:09,492 --> 01:22:13,262 And I've got a whole rack of medicines 1573 01:22:13,296 --> 01:22:18,101 that the doctor wishes I would take, but I don't do it. 1574 01:22:18,134 --> 01:22:22,238 Everything from A to Z, which probably- vitamins, vitamin C, 1575 01:22:22,271 --> 01:22:25,341 which would probably help. I probably should do it. 1576 01:22:25,374 --> 01:22:27,176 You want any candy? 1577 01:22:29,545 --> 01:22:32,048 Definitely get some donuts, I like donuts. 1578 01:22:32,081 --> 01:22:33,282 Trying to gain some weight. 1579 01:22:33,316 --> 01:22:35,351 The best donuts are the Canadian ones, 1580 01:22:35,384 --> 01:22:36,986 but they don't have 'em here. 1581 01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:39,055 Favorite kind of donuts are jelly donuts, 1582 01:22:39,088 --> 01:22:43,292 some kind of raspberry or jelly or something, 1583 01:22:43,326 --> 01:22:46,629 or those donuts that have cream puff inside of 'em. 1584 01:22:46,662 --> 01:22:49,298 They're pretty good. 1585 01:22:49,332 --> 01:22:52,068 We're here in Canyonlands National Park, 1586 01:22:52,101 --> 01:22:55,404 near the sight of Moses. 1587 01:22:55,438 --> 01:23:00,609 This is the first time I've been back since 1972. 1588 01:23:00,643 --> 01:23:03,979 I welcome the chance to climb in a different environment 1589 01:23:04,013 --> 01:23:07,083 and the Utah desert is about as different, 1590 01:23:07,116 --> 01:23:08,284 from my background. 1591 01:23:08,317 --> 01:23:10,153 I thought it was very beautiful. 1592 01:23:10,186 --> 01:23:11,720 And unusual, I- 1593 01:23:11,754 --> 01:23:15,258 it took me a while to get used to the rock. 1594 01:23:24,767 --> 01:23:27,170 I used to come out here for climbing practice. 1595 01:23:27,203 --> 01:23:31,507 I think I was one of the earliest people to climb on the rock. 1596 01:23:34,677 --> 01:23:36,545 [Conrad] Fred is sort of alone here in the States, 1597 01:23:36,579 --> 01:23:40,349 and who's his family? Who's his support network? 1598 01:23:40,383 --> 01:23:43,552 You need to have community to stay healthy. 1599 01:23:43,586 --> 01:23:46,089 Fred's family is the climbing community. 1600 01:23:46,122 --> 01:23:47,256 [beep] 1601 01:23:47,290 --> 01:23:50,025 Right now, I have a driving problem-- 1602 01:23:50,059 --> 01:23:52,561 the drivers license people don't think I'm a good driver. 1603 01:23:52,595 --> 01:23:55,564 Maybe I'm not, but I think I am but whatever. 1604 01:23:55,598 --> 01:23:57,533 It's difficult because 1605 01:23:57,566 --> 01:24:00,103 I'd like to get somebody to go skiing with this weekend, 1606 01:24:00,136 --> 01:24:01,437 and I'm not even sure who I have. 1607 01:24:01,470 --> 01:24:04,273 I may not be able to find anyone. 1608 01:24:04,307 --> 01:24:07,643 Are we going ski touring tomorrow on Blewett Pass... 1609 01:24:07,676 --> 01:24:11,747 Can you please call me back? I hope this works out. 1610 01:24:11,780 --> 01:24:14,016 But do call me, I'm waiting 1611 01:24:14,049 --> 01:24:16,719 and would like to hear from you. Bye Bye 1612 01:24:23,392 --> 01:24:26,462 You wanna go down by the beach? 1613 01:24:26,495 --> 01:24:30,133 My brother was two and a half years younger than I was. 1614 01:24:30,166 --> 01:24:33,369 He did everything I did. One time, 1615 01:24:33,402 --> 01:24:36,105 my brother and I found a couple of logs, 1616 01:24:36,139 --> 01:24:38,006 and we nailed boards together 1617 01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,609 and we made kind of a makeshift raft, 1618 01:24:40,643 --> 01:24:43,512 and then went and paddled across over to Vashon Island. 1619 01:24:43,546 --> 01:24:48,484 [Helmy] We went a hell of a long ways out. 1620 01:24:48,517 --> 01:24:53,956 freighters and ocean liners would come along. 1621 01:24:53,989 --> 01:24:55,291 [Fred] One ship did come by. 1622 01:24:55,324 --> 01:24:58,594 This ship created waves and wakes. 1623 01:24:58,627 --> 01:25:03,166 I was worried that it might shake the raft apart. 1624 01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:05,968 It's about three miles over to Vashon Island. 1625 01:25:06,001 --> 01:25:07,403 We stayed on the island maybe a night. 1626 01:25:07,436 --> 01:25:10,005 We abandoned the raft over there. 1627 01:25:10,038 --> 01:25:11,307 We took the ferry boat back. 1628 01:25:11,340 --> 01:25:14,343 I think maybe we were pushing the limits. 1629 01:25:14,377 --> 01:25:17,079 I think we were pushing our luck. 1630 01:25:17,112 --> 01:25:20,616 I sure wouldn't dream of doing it today. 1631 01:25:20,649 --> 01:25:22,017 [Helmy] I don't talk to Fred, you know, 1632 01:25:22,050 --> 01:25:25,053 'cause he's always too hard to reach. 1633 01:25:25,087 --> 01:25:26,955 [Dave] Have you talked to Helmy? 1634 01:25:26,989 --> 01:25:28,191 [Fred] I made a trip there, 1635 01:25:28,224 --> 01:25:30,058 we had some communication problems. 1636 01:25:30,092 --> 01:25:33,095 He's having a tough time hearing. 1637 01:25:33,128 --> 01:25:35,498 [Helmy] He came to visit, you know, over here, 1638 01:25:35,531 --> 01:25:36,965 but not to see me, 1639 01:25:36,999 --> 01:25:39,302 but to go into the Dolomites. 1640 01:25:41,036 --> 01:25:42,738 He changed his lifestyle. 1641 01:25:42,771 --> 01:25:45,641 He's just totally interested and immersed in music, 1642 01:25:45,674 --> 01:25:51,247 which is OK, but I think he overdoes it. 1643 01:25:53,349 --> 01:25:56,485 [Helmy] I'm proud of him. He's a real hero. 1644 01:25:56,519 --> 01:25:58,721 And he's the most modest 1645 01:25:58,754 --> 01:26:02,157 damn person in the world, you know? 1646 01:26:02,191 --> 01:26:03,659 There must be a lot of people 1647 01:26:03,692 --> 01:26:06,895 that are just plain resentful or jealous... 1648 01:26:06,929 --> 01:26:09,398 'cause Fred is different, you know? 1649 01:26:09,432 --> 01:26:11,133 [Fred] Wanna pick up a duck? 1650 01:26:11,166 --> 01:26:13,502 [Dave laughs] 1651 01:26:13,536 --> 01:26:18,341 They either hate the guy or fear him, or love him. 1652 01:26:21,109 --> 01:26:23,246 [Fred] I don't know if I'm contributing. 1653 01:26:23,279 --> 01:26:25,113 I'm not sure I am. 1654 01:26:25,147 --> 01:26:27,283 I hope I'm contributing a little bit 1655 01:26:27,316 --> 01:26:29,318 to mountaineering education, 1656 01:26:29,352 --> 01:26:32,255 people's knowledge of the mountains. 1657 01:26:33,689 --> 01:26:35,057 I think the dirtbag thing, 1658 01:26:35,090 --> 01:26:37,159 I don't know where it really started. 1659 01:26:37,192 --> 01:26:39,562 I don't feel that I've been a dirtbag. 1660 01:26:39,595 --> 01:26:43,131 I've always had a car. 1661 01:26:43,165 --> 01:26:45,133 And I've always had a purpose. 1662 01:26:45,167 --> 01:26:47,202 The first ascents I've done, 1663 01:26:47,236 --> 01:26:49,438 going to Kate's Needle and Devil's Thumb, 1664 01:26:49,472 --> 01:26:52,708 Mount Hunter, Mount Deborah in Alaska. The Waddington trip 1665 01:26:52,741 --> 01:26:56,111 I don't think you could call that dirtbagging. 1666 01:26:59,782 --> 01:27:02,951 [Dave] So, do you feel like you did everything you wanted to do? 1667 01:27:02,985 --> 01:27:04,353 [Fred] Never, no. 1668 01:27:04,387 --> 01:27:07,122 I just scratched the surface. 1669 01:27:07,155 --> 01:27:10,626 Obviously, with climbing, it's endless. 1670 01:27:10,659 --> 01:27:12,361 You know, you can make a hit list 1671 01:27:12,395 --> 01:27:15,331 of things that you want to climb or places to visit. 1672 01:27:15,364 --> 01:27:17,966 I'd love to go to Majorca, the islands in Greece, 1673 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:19,335 I haven't even been to Thailand. 1674 01:27:19,368 --> 01:27:21,270 And even in North America, 1675 01:27:21,304 --> 01:27:23,739 there are mountains in Colorado, Wyoming, 1676 01:27:23,772 --> 01:27:27,310 Montana that I haven't even climbed, Mexico, 1677 01:27:27,343 --> 01:27:30,379 all of South America, I've never done anything there. 1678 01:27:30,413 --> 01:27:31,614 You can't do all these things. 1679 01:27:31,647 --> 01:27:33,316 But I don't regret having done it, 1680 01:27:33,349 --> 01:27:35,684 it may be better to look forward to it, 1681 01:27:35,718 --> 01:27:38,387 maybe I'll get there sometime. 1682 01:27:38,421 --> 01:27:41,290 I'd like to unwind and get younger, 1683 01:27:41,324 --> 01:27:43,892 but I guess nobody's figured that out yet. 1684 01:27:43,926 --> 01:27:47,496 [Dave] You have any single one thing you value most in life, 1685 01:27:47,530 --> 01:27:50,165 -[Dave] that you value the very most? -[Fred] Stay alive. 1686 01:27:50,198 --> 01:27:52,067 [Todd laughs] 1687 01:27:54,770 --> 01:27:57,072 That's important. 1688 01:28:03,612 --> 01:28:06,582 [Timothy] When we study individuals who break the mold, 1689 01:28:06,615 --> 01:28:10,319 we should not just study artists and scientists 1690 01:28:10,353 --> 01:28:12,988 and authors and architects. 1691 01:28:13,021 --> 01:28:16,058 We should include Fred Beckey among them. 1692 01:28:16,091 --> 01:28:17,660 Beckey was trained classically, 1693 01:28:17,693 --> 01:28:20,529 but then he just smashed the model. 1694 01:28:20,563 --> 01:28:24,066 Sometimes it just calls for a single-minded bastard. 1695 01:28:26,068 --> 01:28:29,572 [Alex] So many of us grow up and are stuck in dead end jobs 1696 01:28:29,605 --> 01:28:31,273 and can't get out of 'em. 1697 01:28:31,306 --> 01:28:35,210 You see this person who has pursued his passion 1698 01:28:35,243 --> 01:28:36,745 and has pursued it passionately. 1699 01:28:36,779 --> 01:28:38,747 And we all know instinctively, 1700 01:28:38,781 --> 01:28:40,383 that's what I should have done 1701 01:28:40,416 --> 01:28:43,051 from the time I was 18 years old. 1702 01:28:44,687 --> 01:28:48,591 [Fred] You know, I could say to heck with it and go play golf. 1703 01:28:48,624 --> 01:28:50,158 Take up cards. 1704 01:28:50,192 --> 01:28:52,194 Sit around the picnic table. 1705 01:28:52,227 --> 01:28:55,698 It's a lot more fun, a lot easier. 1706 01:28:55,731 --> 01:28:58,467 But I guess I have a certain amount of motivation 1707 01:28:58,501 --> 01:29:00,736 or drive to go out and do these things. 1708 01:29:00,769 --> 01:29:03,038 Why, I can't explain it. 1709 01:29:03,071 --> 01:29:05,574 I'd rather do something than do nothing. 1710 01:29:05,608 --> 01:29:06,975 Put it that way. 1711 01:29:07,009 --> 01:29:09,712 -[wind blowing] -[panting] 1712 01:29:12,214 --> 01:29:14,249 [Jeff screams] Come on, Fred, get up there! 1713 01:29:16,184 --> 01:29:17,653 -[Dave] Yeah, do it! -Yes! 1714 01:29:17,686 --> 01:29:21,289 Yeah! Woo! Yeah, buddy! 1715 01:29:22,290 --> 01:29:24,192 Nice, Fred! 1716 01:29:27,229 --> 01:29:29,197 [Fred] Lots of fun. 1717 01:29:29,231 --> 01:29:31,467 [Vasiliki] What I believe about most people 1718 01:29:31,500 --> 01:29:34,903 is as they get older, they don't necessarily get any wiser. 1719 01:29:34,937 --> 01:29:36,405 In fact, rarely. 1720 01:29:36,439 --> 01:29:39,408 They just become more so what they've always been. 1721 01:29:39,442 --> 01:29:43,078 And I think, probably, with Fred, it's the same thing. 1722 01:29:43,111 --> 01:29:45,380 He is... 1723 01:29:45,414 --> 01:29:47,149 ...etched in stone. 1724 01:30:03,499 --> 01:30:06,101 [music playing] 1725 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,943 [Steve Gunn] * There's a constant motion 1726 01:30:47,976 --> 01:30:52,981 * Makes you feel like the ocean * 1727 01:30:53,015 --> 01:30:56,885 * Hey there nature driver man 1728 01:30:56,919 --> 01:31:00,288 * You are a welcome guest 1729 01:31:01,690 --> 01:31:05,093 * Man with that wicked eye 1730 01:31:05,127 --> 01:31:08,631 * Will lead you to your rest 1731 01:31:09,632 --> 01:31:12,400 * Moving through the seasons 1732 01:31:12,434 --> 01:31:16,772 * And I'm hoping for the best 1733 01:31:16,805 --> 01:31:19,407 I remember once climbing at Cal Dome with Fred Beckey, 1734 01:31:19,441 --> 01:31:23,478 and there was this swarm of bees up ahead on the trail. 1735 01:31:23,512 --> 01:31:25,013 So we all shouted to Fred, 1736 01:31:25,047 --> 01:31:27,215 "Hey, Fred, you know, there's bees up there!" 1737 01:31:27,249 --> 01:31:30,919 You know, Fred couldn't hear shit, "What?" 1738 01:31:30,953 --> 01:31:32,821 And he walked right through the bees, 1739 01:31:32,855 --> 01:31:34,422 and, you know, one or two must have stung him, 1740 01:31:34,456 --> 01:31:36,592 and he kind of just like slapped himself 1741 01:31:36,625 --> 01:31:38,493 and grunted and just kept on walking. 1742 01:31:38,527 --> 01:31:40,462 And all the other guys were like, 1743 01:31:40,495 --> 01:31:42,731 "Fuck that, we're not gonna walk through the bees." 1744 01:31:42,765 --> 01:31:44,299 So, they start, like, 1745 01:31:44,332 --> 01:31:46,334 bushwhacking to cut the switchback, 1746 01:31:46,368 --> 01:31:49,404 and I sort of in my own mind, I thought, 1747 01:31:49,437 --> 01:31:51,640 "Man, if Fred Beckey's like eighty-something years old. 1748 01:31:51,674 --> 01:31:53,375 If that guy can walk through the bees, 1749 01:31:53,408 --> 01:31:54,743 I'm gonna walk through the fuckin' bees. 1750 01:31:54,777 --> 01:31:57,746 Like, I'm pretty tough, it's no big deal." 1751 01:31:57,780 --> 01:32:00,048 So, I start marching up through the bees, 1752 01:32:00,082 --> 01:32:02,918 and a bee went right up my shorts 1753 01:32:02,951 --> 01:32:05,153 and just got me right in the scrotum. 1754 01:32:05,187 --> 01:32:07,122 and I just couldn't... 1755 01:32:07,155 --> 01:32:10,258 There was nothing you could do. I mean, it's a natural reaction. 1756 01:32:10,292 --> 01:32:12,695 I ripped my shorts off and I'm trying to kill the bee, 1757 01:32:12,728 --> 01:32:15,564 and all the guys are like laughing hysterically, 1758 01:32:15,598 --> 01:32:17,132 like, they just think it's the funniest thing. 1759 01:32:17,165 --> 01:32:18,634 And it really hurt. 1760 01:32:18,667 --> 01:32:22,037 And Fred's completely oblivious. 1761 01:32:22,070 --> 01:32:24,506 We get to the base of the crag about 20 minutes later, 1762 01:32:24,539 --> 01:32:28,410 and I say to Fred, "Did you get stung by any bees?" 1763 01:32:28,443 --> 01:32:29,745 "What?" 1764 01:32:29,778 --> 01:32:31,880 "Bees, like, did any bees sting you?" 1765 01:32:31,914 --> 01:32:33,616 "I dunno. Maybe, maybe." 1766 01:32:33,649 --> 01:32:35,751 And looked at his hand and there was, like, a stinger 1767 01:32:35,784 --> 01:32:38,020 still in his hand, and I just thought, 1768 01:32:38,053 --> 01:32:40,155 "Goddamn, like, this guy, 1769 01:32:40,188 --> 01:32:41,690 he is so passionate 1770 01:32:41,724 --> 01:32:43,525 and so freakin' tough. 1771 01:32:43,558 --> 01:32:46,228 And that other stuff, like pain, 1772 01:32:46,261 --> 01:32:48,463 doesn't affect him, apparently." 1773 01:32:48,496 --> 01:32:52,067 [Steve Gunn] * Highway is fully stacked, * 1774 01:32:52,267 --> 01:32:55,070 * think we'll turn around. 1775 01:32:56,071 --> 01:32:59,942 * Go down another road 1776 01:32:59,975 --> 01:33:03,478 * and through a different town. * 1777 01:33:04,980 --> 01:33:08,050 * Feel the direction like 1778 01:33:08,550 --> 01:33:12,120 * a rock upon the moon. 1779 01:33:13,121 --> 01:33:16,258 * Come on the overpass 1780 01:33:16,291 --> 01:33:19,995 * and hope to get there soon. 1781 01:33:21,196 --> 01:33:24,032 * Hope to get there soon. 1782 01:33:24,066 --> 01:33:25,668 When he said, "I really wanna climb 1783 01:33:25,701 --> 01:33:27,569 the East Buttress on Whitney." 1784 01:33:27,602 --> 01:33:29,104 I was like, "Well, why not? 1785 01:33:29,137 --> 01:33:30,673 The guy's a legend, let's go have a good time." 1786 01:33:30,706 --> 01:33:32,607 And as we're going down there, he's like, 1787 01:33:32,641 --> 01:33:34,476 "I think I've got it this time, I can climb, 1788 01:33:34,509 --> 01:33:37,279 it's just, I have trouble sleeping at altitude." 1789 01:33:37,312 --> 01:33:39,414 And being a problem solver, I'm already thinking, 1790 01:33:39,447 --> 01:33:43,085 "well, how can I help this guy achieve his dreams?" 1791 01:33:43,118 --> 01:33:45,120 And so, the first day we hike up, 1792 01:33:45,153 --> 01:33:47,122 and we get to camp that night and it's cold, 1793 01:33:47,155 --> 01:33:49,992 and he pulls out this inappropriately light sleeping bag, 1794 01:33:50,025 --> 01:33:51,626 with a tiny little Therm-a-Rest. 1795 01:33:51,660 --> 01:33:53,095 Like, the guy's not gonna sleep. 1796 01:33:53,128 --> 01:33:54,697 I couldn't sleep in that thing. 1797 01:33:54,730 --> 01:33:57,365 Every so often, if people have trouble sleeping at altitude, 1798 01:33:57,399 --> 01:33:59,301 you know, a little sleeping pill kind of helps. 1799 01:33:59,334 --> 01:34:01,870 So, I grind up a little bit of this 1800 01:34:01,904 --> 01:34:03,571 sleeping tablet into his tea, and he drinks it, 1801 01:34:03,605 --> 01:34:05,373 and I don't tell him anything about it. 1802 01:34:05,407 --> 01:34:07,342 We wake up the next morning, and he's like, 1803 01:34:07,375 --> 01:34:12,114 "Dave, I feel great, I'm ready to charge!" 1804 01:34:13,448 --> 01:34:16,151 So that night, there was no appropriate time 1805 01:34:16,184 --> 01:34:17,753 to slip him the mickey. 1806 01:34:17,786 --> 01:34:19,421 So, I said, "Fred, I've got a confession, 1807 01:34:19,454 --> 01:34:21,656 I put a little sleeping pill in your tea last night, 1808 01:34:21,690 --> 01:34:23,959 and that's probably why you slept well, 1809 01:34:23,992 --> 01:34:25,560 we should do it." And he's like, "What!" 1810 01:34:25,593 --> 01:34:28,363 He was just convinced that, that's not the thing to do. 1811 01:34:28,396 --> 01:34:31,266 So, he didn't sleep a wink, woke up miserable, 1812 01:34:31,299 --> 01:34:35,070 and we didn't get a chance to climb Mt. Whitney that trip. 1813 01:34:35,103 --> 01:34:36,504 Dave Nettle had given me a great tip, 1814 01:34:36,538 --> 01:34:38,707 Just sneak a little bit of, like, a sleeping pill 1815 01:34:38,741 --> 01:34:40,375 into Fred's drink, 1816 01:34:40,408 --> 01:34:42,044 Sure enough, gave it to Fred and watched him get drowsy 1817 01:34:42,077 --> 01:34:43,678 and then, you know, got him into his sleeping bag 1818 01:34:43,712 --> 01:34:48,516 and, it sounds like I'm drug- like we drugged the guy, but 1819 01:34:48,550 --> 01:34:50,285 um... well, we kinda did. 1820 01:34:50,318 --> 01:34:53,722 But the point is, he jumped up that morning, he was refreshed, 1821 01:34:53,756 --> 01:34:56,524 he slept well, put his pack on, hiked up to the base 1822 01:34:56,558 --> 01:34:58,460 and climbed the East Face of Mt. Whitney. 1823 01:34:58,493 --> 01:35:00,963 [Steve Gunn] * There's a constant motion 1824 01:35:00,996 --> 01:35:05,567 * Makes you feel like the ocean * 1825 01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:09,805 * Hey there nature driver man 1826 01:35:09,838 --> 01:35:13,141 * You are a welcome guest 145207

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