All language subtitles for Rolling Stone Life And Death Of Brian Jones (2019)en

- Why were the Stones so out there?

That really focused on
this guy Brian Jones.

- You think of the
Rolling Stones in the mid-60's

and you think of Brian Jones.

You don't think of Mick Jagger,

you certainly don't
think of Keith Richards.

Brian Jones is the
perfect British rock star.

He's the first English rock star

with perhaps the best
look there's ever been

of any British rock star.

- He was the one
who was introducing them

to these Moroccan sounds, to world music,

he was the one who was
the friend of John Lennon,

the friend of Jimi Hendrix.

- Although there
were five individuals

you sort of knew that he was the governor.

- He was a major
player in the 1960's

in charting new regions
which had been thought

otherwise impossible for young white men

to even think about.

Musically,

fashion wise,

attitude wise.

He was a trailblazer.

Hedonism, excess,

he embodied all of those in his 27 years.

- Brian's peripatetic
wanderings around London,

a hunted man, obviously called
for a sense of relocation

and his advisors came
up with Cotchford Farm

down in East Sussex in the
little village of Hartfield.

So he found a great sense
of peace and identity

at Cotchford Farm.

With the village of Hartfield

and the locals here adopted him.

They're very protective

and so for the short
while that he was here

during 68 and into 69 he
found a sense of community

which didn't exist in London.

- Brian has found his dream home,

previously owned by AA Milne,
the author of Winnie the Pooh,

and it has a swimming pool
which is ideal for him.

He kind of seems to be
largely, as far as I know,

off drugs at that point
although he's drinking a lot.

- He was indulged in by the doctors

who went on prescribing
right till when he died.

When people say oh, he
wasn't taking drugs anymore.

He wasn't smoking hash and taking cocaine

or taking anything else of that type

but he was taking a whole bunch
of dreadful type of things.

And he was drinking heavily!

That's why his health so badly declined

in the following year.

Brian was very much a broken man

and was never functioning
at the same level of genius

that he had before because he was relying

on these prescription pills.

The doctors overprescribed constantly

which is why little by little

this problem developed
in the group, I think,

where because everybody was
preoccupied with their own thing

but Brian was the absent one.

As time went by, he came to,

he knew I was seeing a
lot of Mick and Keith

and he would ask me, what
are the Stones doing?

He would use these words,
what are the Stones doing,

what are they up to and so forth

as if he wasn't part of it anymore.

- Well Brian by the time rock n' roll

had become marginalized as
far as the group was concerned

simply because they couldn't rely on him,

they wouldn't know whether
he was gonna turn up

to the recording sessions
or turn up too late

or turn up in a condition in
which he couldn't contribute.

- Cotchford Farm needed some renovations

and from all available
reports of the builders

they were on a jolly as we say over here

and they weren't gonna get much done.

This existed for a period of time

before even Brian decided
that enough was enough.

The building work was shoddy

and they were generally taking over,

in particular the main
builder Frank Thorogood

even moved into the property.

- Frank Thorogood was
brought into the movie

by Tom Keylock so the pair
of 'em were in cohorts

at some level or another.

- Tom Keylock was a minder.

He was one of those people
that occupy positions,

roadie, chauffer, tour
manager, stroke minder.

- Tom Keylock was much older
than the Rolling Stones.

He had connections with all
tiers of officialdom police

and also the underworld as well.

So he was a shady character, world wise.

- Frank and Tom Keylock were

really living the life in Brian's house.

- Brian was not around.

He was always in the country

and he wasn't going to,

I think a lot of times
he just didn't go even

to the recording sessions and so on.

- Yeah, I saw Brian in the studio,

he's sitting in the corner.

- He had no discipline whatsoever.

And I think that was his undoing

because they thought
if we can't rely on him

we'll get on without him.

And that's what eventually happened.

- He was a difficult guy to love, Brian.

I can imagine Brian really getting up

in Mick and Keith's nose in the end

because of his demands

and his moaning and
dissatisfaction with his lot.

- But the idea that Brian was pushed out

I think is ridiculous.

Brian created a situation
where they had to push him out

otherwise he could've
brought the band down.

- He was talking
about leaving anyway

so I wasn't surprised.

I didn't really feel
particularly bad about it

because he was potentially brilliant

and a very, very intelligent person

but he just seemed to be
set on destroying himself.

- Cheltenham, people
sort of said at the time

or people have said since that
it was a sort of stayed place

but it never was.

There was plenty to do and
there was the typical rock scene

that there'd been with the
Teddy Boys and rock n' roll

and the sort of coffee shop era.

There were plenty of coffee
shops and little cafes

and plenty going on.

- Brian came from a very well to do

middle class family

and he proved to be
something of a character.

- I think the significant clue to Brian

is in his early childhood
which is when he's four

and his two year old sister dies.

His parents soon have another daughter

but the mother who'd been heartbroken

at the loss of the first child

transfers all her love and affection

onto this new daughter,

withdrawing it, it seems, from Brian.

And Brian at that point
starts to develop asthma.

- Also, he told me things
about his sister Pamela

who had died and when he was
a naughty boy, as it were,

his father or mother would threaten him

with the same result.

- He wasn't interested in going to college

although he went to a very good college

called Dean Close in Cheltenham.

- He could've gone to university,

he was very bright, Brian.

Had a very high Mensa intelligence rating

but he also had the
emotional rating of a child.

And that was his problem.

- His parents wanted him
to be a classical musician

so when he discovers
jazz at the age of 14,

starts playing saxophone.

- Cannonball Adderley was
Brian's real favorite.

- Which became an
absolute religion with him.

He played the piano quite nicely,

he'd had quite legitimate
lessons from a very good teacher

but all the time his
fanaticism for jazz music

was coming to the fore

it was a great disappointment to us

and source of considerable anxiety

when he became so wrapped
up in his love of jazz music

that in spite of everything
we could do or say

he went off and did it.

- I used to learn piano and clarinet.

I used to play clarinet.

Thank you.

And I lost interest in the clarinet

because I became very
involved in musical studies

and I lost a lot of interest

because I think I was getting in a rut,

I was getting too involved.

- His parents threw him
out one Christmas time

and a little before Christmas

Left a suitcase on the doorstep.

That was the first thing he
told me about his parents.

- He wasn't
interested in settling down

to do any work.

He didn't mind working, he got some jobs.

He had a job which I mentioned
earlier in Gloucestershire

and he had no parents to help him.

- He didn't want to settle down.

He just wanted to party, party, party

and make love to as many
girls as he possibly could.

He was a naughty boy, he really was.

When he told me about Valerie

he also told me about an earlier one.

At the time he was going out
with Pat and she was pregnant.

- By the time Brian was 19

he had three illegitimate children.

How do you cope with that?

His reputation wasn't very good.

I was surprised by it because
I'd never been friends

with somebody who suddenly
was persona non grata.

Being beaten up by an
umbrella in the street

and such a thing.

- We were both interested
in jazz and blues

but blues came on much
stronger after that.

To start with it was jazz.

He was getting into the blues

because he heard the old stuff

like Lead Belly and I had a
record with Elmore James on it

which is something that really grabbed him

the first time he heard it.

- And I started to play the guitar

and it gave me a new feel musically

and I became interested in jazz

and rhythm and blues eventually.

- Elmore Jones.

- Gradually worked around to playing

with the Rolling Stones, shut up.

- One of the people we used to go and see

in the early days was Alexis Korner.

He was often called the
father of rhythm and blues

in England at that time.

- After the
performance in Cheltenham,

Brian came up to me together
with a friend of his.

I gave him my address and
phone number and everything

and he used to appear
and sleep on our floor

and come around the odd clubs
if I was playing anywhere.

- He was really in the
forefront of British blues

and he also played with
a guy called Cyril Davies

who had Cyril Davies All-Stars

and these were real
pioneers of British blues

and it was when Alexis
Korner starts a club

in Ealing in West London in April 1962.

- Brian sat in, he played
with Alexis at the Ealing Club

on several occasions.

- He's billed himself as Elmo Lewis

who has learned to play slide guitar.

He's found a piece of metal

that he can put on his finger

and he can therefore emulate the sounds

of Elmore James and others.

- Alexis talked to Brian

and right from the beginning he thought

he was a very accomplished guitarist.

He was very influential on Brian

because he became a
father figure, I thought,

and he started to make real
plans then for going to London.

- Well from my point of view

the group started with Brian, really

in that he was the first one I met.

- There would not have
been a Rolling Stones

without Brian Jones.

Brian Jones was the
man who caused the band

to come into effect.

He was the one who placed
an advert in Jazz News

looking for other members
who were interested

in a blues band.

The first person I think to respond to it

was Ian Stewart, the keyboard player,

who was particularly close friend of mine.

- Mick, Keith and myself
went down to the Ealing Club

and I think it may be the second
or third week we went there

we saw Brian Jones play
on stage with Paul Jones,

I think it was.

I think he played either with Paul Jones

or Long John Bal-dree or both

and we were just knocked
out with his playing.

The thing with Brian is he
played amazing slide guitar

and we heard people like
Elmore James on record

and here was a guy actually doing it

for real, for live, in
Ealing which was amazing

and so we went and talked to him

and Brian invited Mick to
go and sing with his band

at which point he asked
me if I could play bass

which I'd never done.

That was it really, the
Rolling Stones were born.

People always seem to
ask about Edith Grove,

which was absolutely where
Mick, Keith and Brian lived

and I remember going
there and going oh my God,

do people really live like this.

- Oh my God, what a place that was.

That was a hellhole on Earth.

- Before hippie squats
it was a hippie squat.

- I think squat is too good a word.

- It was summer of 1962, I guess,

and we were having a good time.

We'd go there every week, rehearse,

have a lot of laughs.

One thing which I think people don't know

so much about Brian,

he actually had a
brilliant sense of humor.

I don't know, he used to
pull the most ridiculous,

gruesome faces.

At that point we had
become the Rolling Stones.

At that point all the gigs were
coming through Brian really.

Our very first gig was the Marquee club

which was pretty terrifying
because at that point

it was like one of the most
prestigious clubs in London.

- I'd been to a gig at the Flamingo

and there were about,

probably more people on the stage

than there were in the audience.

- He was a rat bastard
'cause he knew I had money

from the Army and he used to make me go

to the nearest wimpy
bar and he'd say to me,

you stay here, you can't come in with us.

Give us some money so we can have the food

but you stay out here

in this really unbelievably cold winter

'cause he had a cold streak

and Brian desperately wanted a new guitar.

We went around the guitar shops

and eventually I bought
him a Harmony Stratocaster.

- I think there was always
a bone of contention

between Brian and Mick and Keith

as to who's band it
was, who was the leader,

because Brian because of
starting his other band

sort of thought well, it was his band,

whereas really what it
was a kind of amalgam

of Brian Jones, Brian's band

and with Mick, Keith and myself

from what we had called Little
Boy Blue and the Blue Boys.

I, after a while of doing this,

decided that I didn't
want to play bass anymore,

I wanted to play guitar and so I left.

- Brian is kind of
running the gig initially

and the management team
who came to see them

play in Richmond and signed them up

is this young hustler
called Andrew Loog Oldham

and Eric Easton who was
much more a traditional

English showbiz kind of guy.

- He was working with the
Beatles on their publicity

and he was looking for
something more of his own,

something he could move on
from just being a publicist.

- I think the reason Andrew
didn't want him in the band

was because he didn't feel that his look

was quite right to the image.

- He initially saw that the
route for the Stones to take

was a similar kind of
route the Beatles took

where Brian had Epstein
knocked off the rough edges

and promoted them as a more acceptable,

good, clean living lads
and all around entertainers

and Andrew started in
that direction with them.

They had suits that he bought for them

which they swiftly lost or
mislaid, didn't wear 'em.

- And I realized,

'cause I didn't realize
when I first met them

that it was Brian's group

and everything revolved around him.

He was a top class musician, Brian,

really a great player.

The whole group was good but you just knew

that he was the leader somehow or another.

He even got paid more
money than anybody else,

unbeknownst to the other Stones

and I remember when they found
out they weren't pleased.

- During the tour in 1963, the end of 1963

when they're supporting
the Everly Brothers,

it emerges during that time

that he's getting this
additional five pounds a week

to everyone else and
Keith Richards later said

when we found that out,

that was the beginning
of the end for Brian.

- I think it would've been Mick

rang me and said that they
were doing some recordings

and could I go along and
do a number with them

and then Andrew obviously was there

and in fact Phil Spector
was also in the studio

at the same time 'cause
Andrew was a great fan

of Phil Spector's.

On that record that I did with them

you can hear the influence,

that big sort of wall of sound.

- I thought he was really
important in the studio.

He wasn't a producer in the
technical sense, I don't believe

but he was a producer
in an emotional sense.

- We used to laugh and talk about

can you imagine Mick
doing this when he's 40.

It was unheard of and
we used to talk about

what are we gonna do
when all this was over

'cause we were all convinced
this was gonna last

one or two years and we'd
have to get a proper job.

We just had no idea it was gonna last

or had no idea it was gonna
rock the world like it did.

- I didn't really see too much of Brian

until myself and the Pretty Things

which by then we were doing pretty well.

We got a house in Belgravia

which is a very posh part of
London which we were renting

and the guy who had the flat downstairs

was letting Brian who wasn't
very fond of paying rent,

he was staying in the basement

so then we basically saw a
lot more of one another again.

- We were both gigging

so we got home about an hour before

and we're all getting stoned

and that happened to be the day

that Five by Five EP came out

so we put it on, we're listening
to it, completely stoned,

having a laugh like you do

and Brian came in and he saw us

sitting around the record player

and laughing with this record on.

So he came rushing back with a ukulele

and smashed it over
Viv's head, good friends.

So Viv is sitting there
wearing this ukulele like,

I wasn't wearing this before.

And Brian was convinced
we were taking the piss

out of the record and when
went away a week later

he got all our singles and
he melted them with a lighter

and stuck them on the wall of the bathroom

and wrote in shaving
foam, you fucking cunts,

you fucking wankers
because he really thought,

and we hadn't, we were
really enjoying the record.

That's paranoia for you.

- Brian was maybe less
of a happy character

than when I used to know him, I must say,

even though the Stones were by that time

very, very successful.

- No one in the British public

really knows about the tensions
that have begun to appear

with in this band but Brian is seen

as the personification
of the Rolling Stones.

- I think the most important thing to us

is when we go on stage

is that we succeed in
communicating to an audience

and the only way we can
do this is to produce

an exciting atmosphere
therefore if the kids scream

we love it, we react to their reaction.

- Bill was the only one

who was coming to the house and stayed.

Very often, you know, sleep there

and I knew that Bill was
really, he really liked Brian.

But the others I knew, I knew I could feel

that there was a sort of
bad feeling about him.

But Brian was really a nice boy.

He was crying almost every night.

He was telling me about the
film he wanted to do with me

and he was telling me
how vulgar were the songs

of Keith and Mick.

Oh yeah, he was really
pissed off with them already

because he thought that
it was not the music

that he really loved and that
the old group was his group

and suddenly he was feeling that the group

was escaping from him.

- He still felt he was leader of the group

for the couple years after it started

and he used to be a bit
bitter under the surface

that Mick was the leader
of the group, not him,

and the fact that they were recording

all Mick and Keith's songs.

Brian was incapable of writing music

and so I'm not really sure
what else he wanted them to do.

- Keith and Mick realized it early on

and Andrew realized early on
that the money was to be made

both working and composing
and doing your own songs.

A matter of necessity would change

the direction of the band.

- No, we're sort of developing

in lots of different
directions musically, I think.

- Brian's big complaint to me was he got

a bigger mailbag as Mick
and he wanted to sing a song

and I said fuck off, Mick's

sing a song, you can't,
he probably could sing.

I said why are you rocking the boat?

Get on with it.

He said, "Yeah but you know,

"I got as many a fans as Mick."

So that was his big beef.

- By the time of the third American tour

Brian is starting to get into
what we see as his demise.

He's very into uppers,
he's also drinking a lot,

Brian also drank a lot

and later you would see
this puffiness on his face.

- Satisfaction changed
everything not only in terms

of the commercial success of the band,

the broadness of the audience,
the success in America,

all of those things but it also changed

the dynamic of the band
because Mick and Keith

were suddenly established
as the songwriters.

Suddenly the band was going to be doing

their original material and that changed

the dynamic of the band.

- Once that was established,

the focus or the tension in the band

changed to the lead singer
and the lead guitarist

who were writing the songs.

Brian got sidelined

and Brian couldn't take
that kind of thing.

It was a massive blow to his self esteem.

- That's why he started to drink more,

take more pills every day

and there was always nice people to bring

huge quantities of pills for Brian.

- He was unequipped for
fame, he was fragile

and he was quite comfortable
while he was emulating

the inspiration or aspects of these heroes

like Muddy Waters or
Bo Diddley or whoever.

He was comfortable in his own world.

Soon as they try to move him out of that

and get him to write his own
songs he was uncomfortable.

- Pop songwriting was not something

that he could easily knock off

and Brian was extremely instrumental,

fundamentally instrumental
in making every one

of those hit songs immortal
by his contributions.

- Yes, I think he was highly thought of.

He was clearly extremely
adept as a musician.

He was able to play almost any instrument.

- Things like Under My Thumb
where he played marimba

and then he played sitar of
course on Paint It Black.

He could pick up an instrument
whether it be an oboe

or Mellotron and he could
change the aspect of the song

so that it became a hit.

He made hit records.

- Acid is an extraordinary tool to explore

magical dimensions that
exist within oneself.

When Brian felt comfortable
and saw the wealth

and the benefit of these things,

being ultrasensitive as an individual,

he would easily fall prey to undue fears.

- Brian was definitely
the most experimental

in terms of drug use
at that point in time.

He was a tortured soul.

He was out of balance.

He had psychological issues.

Looking back, I think probably he was

an undiagnosed bipolar,
unmedicated bipolar.

We were all too young
and too inexperienced

to know how to deal with that.

I mean, yes, he was a cracked person,

- Anita was an extraordinary personality,

was so vibrant and so intelligent

and so inspiring and so
avant guard in her sexuality

and everything else that obviously Brian

would be hopelessly in love with her

and remain hopelessly in love with her

despite all the other girls.

- She scared me a bit, I found her scary.

I think she was very intelligent

but she got into some weird areas.

- When she came and joined Brian

at a break in the tour in Miami

they certainly did a lot of acid

over a couple days that she stayed

and I think everybody knew that.

I don't recall anybody else doing acid

at that particular moment in time.

- Keith Richards was with
this girl called Linda Keith

who left him and he was
very cut up about it

so he took refuge with Brian and Anita.

- Kind of reignited Brian and Keith,

the friendship that
they had when the lived

together in Fuller but there's
a lot of drugs going on.

- They always blame Anita
for everything that happened

but it's totally unfair because Brian

was not by any stretch of the
imagination a faithful guy.

- Brian was a very touching character.

You could not help being intrigued by him.

There was something very
vulnerable about him,

very sensitive, he had an
incredible insight into people

an almost devilish insight.

Now that was the mean side of him

that if he saw through people

and then used what he felt
was their weakness somehow

to torture them.

- He invited me around to his apartment

with his girlfriend,
we had dinner together

and I sold him a German
uniform he bought from me

'cause I was so military
at the time as well.

- And he had this need
to challenge people,

challenge the public by
showing up in a Nazi uniform

which you could do that maybe in London

but in Munich it was not funny.

- Towards the end of that summer,

Brian and Anita go to Morocco

where Brian and Anita have a huge row

and Brian tries to punch
her, maybe does punch her

but certainly punches the
wall and breaks his hand.

- He did break his
wrist one time in Africa

and from then on he just
didn't wanna play guitar.

He played soprano sax on a Beatles B-side.

- One day on the set,
Anita came to see me.

Brian had left and she
said Brian is asking

whether he could do the
music for the movie.

I was speechless.

You don't turn down the offer of a Stone

to do your music in 1967.

Allen Klein just had taken over
the management of the Stones

and Brian said you got to
come with me to see him

and he was as scared of
him, I think, as I was

and convince him that he let me do this.

And a couple of months
later during which time

he was supposed to compose the music

he was in very bad shape.

He was not always in the
state that he could work

or focus or concentrate

or even show up before one at night or so.

He asked for a lot of musicians,

a wonderful pianist,
Nicky Hopkins, to come in.

Keith Richards fortunately showed up

who saved the recording session.

- Jimmy Page plays on that for example

and the soundtrack never came out as an LP

but it's sensational, in fact.

- I was in the recording studio
when it became vividly clear

that the band were going in
a direction without Andrew.

They were recording Satanic,
the tension was really

increasingly unpleasant,
particularly Mick and Keith

were coming to the
sessions later and later.

- In 67 when I stayed with him

we started working on stuff together

which was very avant guard

because he was always ahead of the curve

and he wanted to do some proto rap things

with my using words that
I was coming up with

and saying oh can we use this
but not on a separate project,

on a Rolling Stones project,

so he was convinced that
this would somehow fit.

- Sergeant Norman Pilcher
was an opportunist career cop

based in the London drug
squadron in the 1960's.

He made a name for
himself during the decade

for busting high profile pop stars.

- Sergeant Pilcher was
known as the groupie cop.

He busted John Lennon and Yoko Ono,

George Harrison and it's
always very dubious.

- Pilcher's first strike
on the music industry

occurred in 1966 where
he went for Donovan.

This dovetailed with the
News of the World article

Pop Stars and Drugs, so it
was obvious from that point

that the press were working
hand in hand with the police.

Brian Jones, he had the
misfortune to meet two reporters

undercover from News of the World

and who managed to talk him into revealing

all sorts of detail about his drug use.

When Brian would continually
reference his leader

of the Rolling Stones status

they scurried back to their offices

to say we've got Mick Jagger
talking about drug use.

This in turn went into the second feature

of Pop Stars and Drugs
saying that Mick Jagger

had been in a club in London
talking about his drug use.

When this was disseminated

at the Rolling Stones organization

Mick Jagger who was in Italy at the time

slapped liable suit on
the News of the World.

So the News of the
World were in a quandary

and the only way they could
embarrass the liable suit

was to find Mick Jagger
in possession of drugs.

Now, within the next few days

a furious amount of activity went on

to penetrate the Rolling
Stones organization,

penetrate Mick and Keith's movements

and as luck would have it for them

that a party was being
held at Redlands in Sussex

which was gonna be attended

by Mick Jagger and Keith Richards.

- The Redlands bust, which is February 67,

Brian isn't there.

In fact, he's not there
because he's been working

on the soundtrack of A Degree of Murder

and he and Anita are
supposed to go down there.

- The party took place
and the News of the World

tipped off the local police

who mounted a raid on the property.

They found a few roaches,

they found in a coat of Mick Jagger's

four amphetamine pills
which would have been

legally acquired in Italy.

More damning for one of their party,

Robert Fraser they found
20 plus heroin tablets

in his jacket pocket.

But as far as News of
the World was concerned

it meant they'd embarrassed
the liable suit.

- They decide to go to Morocco

and then they drive down to through France

and on the first day Brian is
sitting in the back of the car

just rolling immense joints

and eventually he basically collapses,

he kind of has an asthmatic attack

and they leave him in hospital

and they continue on their way.

He's gonna join them when
he gets out of hospital.

- Anita didn't callously
abandon Brian for Keith.

This affair started but she
was torn between two lovers

and she wrote, what people don't know

is that she wrote every day to Brian

and Brian every day to her.

Indeed, Brian made me
read Anita's letters.

In this case he pushed the wrong buttons

and got the wrong effects

and he could've, when he
got more physical with her

to put it mildly there was a problem,

what would they do and they decided

that to avoid a worse problem

the best thing to do was to leave.

- They split to Tangiers

and they leave Brian with the bill.

There was kind of a lot of
nastiness towards Brian.

- The problem is that Brian felt abandoned

and being paranoid he felt,

oh, they've left me behind sort of thing.

He was devastated by being left behind

but after the fact he told me

that he was himself to blame.

- During the sessions
when we recorded in London

everything was more or less
fine with Anita and Brian

even though she was very
upset that he didn't

make more of this opportunity

and the fact that Keith
stepped in to help out

and to get the thing done
should've been a hint

but I was unaware of it.

Two months later the film premiered

at the Cannes Film Festival.

Anita showed up with Brian, of course,

and we were on the red carpet and all that

and it was a great event
but Keith was there as well.

- Brian was determined to get Anita back.

These arrangements were made
and much to Brian's relief

I went with him to
Cannes with the intention

of seeing whether we could
engineer a reconciliation

between Brian and Anita.

It was a very joyous night
and it was full of affection

and good times but it became
very clear to all of us

that she would not go back to Brian.

I told Brian, look, the best thing to do

is let's fly in Suki.

I thought she'd be a good substitute

and indeed she was for a
while a very good substitute

and she took it but she wasn't Anita.

She had the looks but she
didn't have the character,

she didn't have this amazing Anita vibe.

- What I firmly
believe was the turning point

in Brian's life was when
he lost the only girl

he ever really loved.

I think this was a very
severe blow to him.

He changed suddenly and alarmingly

from a bright, enthusiastic young man

to a quiet and morose and
inward-looking young man.

- Very interestingly on
the day Mick and Keith

were formally charged
with possession of drugs

following the Redlands raid,

Pilcher's squad mounted
a raid on Brian's flat

in South Kensington on Courtfield Road

where Brian was present.

- We arrived fairly late in the evening

and went to bed at Courtfield Road

and in the morning the phone
was ringing off the hook

and they were all calling
us because everybody

seems to have been tipped
off that we would be busted.

And they all said, have you been busted

and we said what are you talking about?

We talked to Robert Fraser who said

let me send Mohammad, my servant,

to clean up Courtfield Road.

And there was likelihood that
drugs were secluded somewhere

and with a team of Pilcher's
squad raiding the place

they would probably find drugs

but also which has later come to light

it probably didn't matter
'cause Pilcher's squad

would probably bring
their own just in case.

- When I went to the door to open the door

for whom I took to be Mohammad

there was this rush of people that again,

I took to be reporters.

I tried to close the door but
they were faster than I was

and they knocked me backwards
and then they rushed forward

and steadied me before I hit the wall

and said, "So sorry, sir,
but here we have a warrant

"to search these premises for drugs."

- The raid took place under
the glare of the press corps

who were camped out outside the flat.

- They marched straight over
to where Brian had his bed

on the floor, they flipped his mattress

and very conveniently a kind
of cheap-o leather wallet

came out and this cop with
a big smile on his face

looked at it and it
was full of this grass.

Then they found this empty vial

and this cop said to us,

"Ooh, I would like to know
what's been in there."

And we said, "What?"

I remember Brian, it was
like this stupid act, what!

And he looked and he said, "Cocaine."

And we went, "Oh no!"

You know, like this, and
he went yeah, but you know,

what could be, I'm not
gonna charge you for that,

am I, he said, what could be in there?

One thousandth, those are the exact words,

I'll never forget them,
one thousandth of a grain?

We were taken down to
Chelsea police station

and it was a media frenzy.

There were hundreds of reporters

and suddenly someone from the office came

and posted bail for both of us

and so we were told
that we were free to go

until the next day when
we had to go to court

but meanwhile Brian was caving in slowly

because his defense
said you better not see

any of the other Rolling Stones,

don't hang out with Stash too much.

You gotta stay away because if
they bust you again together

it could make your case worse

so Brian got a bit isolated and then

I was absolutely astounded
and both Brian and I

looked at each other in horror
because that's when we heard

the police lie and call
us naive if you will

but we never expected Scotland Yard,

we thought we can lie

but they're not allowed to lie.

But they did because
their account of the bust

and what we said and so
on was so completely wrong

and inaccurate that we
were absolutely horrified

and so again we were remanded
to be tried by jury later on

and during that time after
our second court appearance

that's when Brian started to fall apart.

Brian was somebody that
everybody looked up to.

When he was on top of his
game nobody could beat him

and certainly nobody
disrespected him in those days.

Everybody deferred to him,
in the studio and everything.

His word was king.

He only lost that edge
when after we were busted

and he was unfortunately
introduced to Mandrax

and he took like a doctor order
to these prescription pills

and started to overindulge in them

and then he became absolutely useless.

- Brian again being of
a rather weak nature

would succumb to almost any temptation.

He could resist anything but temptation.

- I remember seeing him at
Olympic being propped up

in the booth and basically
given the instrument

and he did play and he managed to play

but he was almost falling over.

So yes, it was very
difficult and it was tragic.

- Earlier Jones admitted
that he'd allowed his flat

in Courtfield Road in West Kensington

to be used for drug taking.

The prosecution said a
total of 35 and a quarter

grains of cannabis,

that's enough to make about
seven to 10 cigarettes

were found in his flat.

Jones is said to have told
police, "Yes, it is hash.

"I do smoke it, but not cocaine, man.

"That's not my scene."

- None of us spoke like that.

They just made it up to
make it sound plausible.

So the whole thing was
completely trumped up.

- Jones in evidence said he
had taken drugs in the past

to a slight extent but
he'd now decided to have

absolutely nothing to do with them.

He was never really dependent on them

but was only an occasional smoker.

- He didn't listen to me, sadly.

I went to the gallery, he did
the stupidest move of his life

which would prove fatal to him.

He pled guilty.

- When sentence was passed, Jones winced

and a number of teenage
girls in the public gallery

stood up and burst into tears.

Passing sentence, Mr.
Reginald Seton, the chairman,

told Jones you occupy a position

by which you have a
large following of youth

and therefore it behooves
you to set an example.

- So I think it's likely
that given the evidence

was conclusive on Brian
that he had no other option

than to declare himself guilty.

- He totally let down the side

and it was a huge tactical miss,

a heartbreaking, huge tactical mistake.

And a tragic mistake
because he was sentenced

to jail time and there
was this manifestation

and yes, he did spend the
night, then they released,

had this nervous breakdown
almost and so on and so forth

but it escalated where in October of 67

he had about a year and a half
to live, not quite two years.

- His drug taking was obvious.

He was a victim and
easy prey for the police

and the establishment so
they were picking on him.

Mick and Keith were much
stronger, they were resilient,

they were able to cope
with it much better.

They were able to even
exploit it in a positive way

if that's possible but Brian
was just going downhill.

- It was a plot to get
rid of the Rolling Stones

once and for all and Brian
was seen as the anchor

or the person who was the
best musician and so on

and decapitating the Rolling Stones,

you already had Mick and Keith,

those guys were going to jail.

If you jailed Brian that
was the end of the band

and it was finished,

there would be no Rolling Stones anymore

and this terrible influence

that the Rolling Stones
would have on the youth

was this menace, was being averted

by this fucking
bowler-hatted establishment.

- It's interesting because
where Mick and Keith

in the Redlands raid were under advice

to swear not guilty of the charges,

Brian was advised to plead guilty.

The circumstances of the Redlands raid

were the evidence was flimsy.

Brian's was perhaps more damning.

- Brian just wasn't
equipped to cope with that

and there was nobody to help.

We didn't know how to support him

and he was a manipulative person

and he was a person who would
push you to the very limits.

- When I seen Brian just
a few months earlier,

in January he came in the studio

when I was working as a tape op

for All Along the
Watchtower, Jimi Hendrix,

and he came down hanging
out with his girlfriend.

And he seemed really sharp and on the case

and he didn't look overweight or anything,

he looked pretty healthy

and then to see him three
or four months later

where he'd kind of put on a lot of weight,

he was very puffy, that thing
you get when you drink a lot

or you're taking drink and pills.

It was something had been going on.

He wasn't like unconscious,

people have said so many
things about this guy.

He could still function but
he obviously wasn't well.

No one really bothered to talk to him,

he was put in a booth.

He's in the same room as everyone

but they had screens all around him

because he mainly was playing acoustic.

He got treated pretty bad by that point

but I think one of the highlights

or the magic that you
were talking about earlier

was the No Expectations and the solo

that Brian played on that.

If you think of the kind
of state he was in in a way

or perhaps they're not
getting as much from him

as other members of the
band, let's put it that way,

I disagree when people
have said that his mic

wasn't even plugged in,

that's just another kind
of let's get at Brian.

If it was good it would've been used.

If it wasn't it could be
replaced, we had eight tracks.

But that night when he
played the solo on that

it was just stunning.

- We could call it
persecution if you like,

we could call it some personal misconduct

and the consequences thereof.

However you approach it

and however it's
acceptable to other people.

- After that bust at Courtfield
Road he was on the run.

He was paranoid, he
couldn't feel safe anywhere.

He'd moved within Chelsea

and yet then a second raid occurred.

To me, this is far more obvious
that the drugs were planted

because the marijuana that was found

was secreted in a ball of wool

and what Brian Jones would
be doing with a ball of wool,

certainly not knitting.

- Thankfully for him he met
a fairly receptive magistrate

and offered him a
lifeline but this lifeline

was also dependent on
heavy psychological reports

and if one actually sees
them you could see the state

of Jones' shattered vizard at this point,

he was absolutely broken.

- Brian Jones had various
trips out to Morocco.

He was enchanted with
the sights and the sounds

and the aromas and when
he first heard these

Pan Pipe players of
Joujouka from the tribes

of the inter-lands of Morocco

introduced to him by the artist,

the left field artist Brion Gysin,

and to him it validated
a lot of the sounds

that were in his head and he
became enchanted with them.

- A significant point about this is that

Brian was like the first person really

as a British popular music
to examine world music.

- I think he was relieved
to have left the Stones.

He was very determined
to, I think they call it,

turn over the page, yes, he was.

Which is one of the reasons
he bought the house,

I think, in the country,

to be away from the nightlife
and everything rock n' roll.

I think it's rock n'
roll, it wasn't the blues,

it's the rock n' roll life.

- He got over that and
was really planning ahead.

He was wanting to form a new band

and he was very excited
because of all the musicians

that he'd heard in Morocco

and it was what we now
would call world music.

Brian actually asked me
if I would sing with them.

- I think he was happy there.

Sometimes he was lonely
but it was his decision

to live in the country and be alone.

He had many friends, people
that would come and see him

but very often the
wrong people in my book.

- When Brian left the Stones
his finances were reevaluated

and even though he was
in for a large payment

and a large retainer there
was no real ready cash.

He didn't write songs,
he was not going to tour

so he was only getting
mechanical royalties

which, this was in 1969,

so if we think of the
rest of the Rolling Stones

who were fairly broke at that point

and soon would have to go into exile,

Brian's finances were going
to be even more challenged.

So it really all came to a head.

- The night of Brian's
death I was in the studio

with the Rolling Stones round
the corner here at Olympic

and around about 12 o'clock,
might've been a bit later,

Tom Keylock came into the Olympic Studios

and gathered Mick and a couple
of the other Stones around

and outside the control
room where I was sitting

with Marianne, finally Marianne went out,

was called out there
and went into a huddle

and I think Tom put his arm around her

and she came back in, she was in tears

and she told me that Brian had drowned

in his swimming pool that night

and they thought that
he got into difficulties

because of his asthma.

- July 3rd, 1969, I was
in the Stones office,

the news had come
through of Brian's death.

Everybody was genuinely shocked and upset

from the musicians to all
the people, of course.

- And I only knew that he died

because the police called
me the following morning

because they'd gone through his phone

and I was the last person
he called, so they said.

- The response to Brian's death was

it was an accident waiting to happen.

- We were stunned when he died

and stunned that he was drowned

because he was a strong swimmer.

- The combination of prescription pills,

downers and the like and alcohol

damaged his liver and his heart

and it was very depressing, all that.

- I was disappointed that
the verdict was what it was

and basically gave the
newspapers the ability to say

it was drugs and alcohol

but the only drugs he had that I could see

were prescription drugs.

- And the amount of alcohol
in his body was minor.

In my day when I was 27, 28,

I'd have to drink a hell of a lot

to do anything as stupid

as be unconscious in a swimming pool.

So none of it added up.

- I thought it was all a bit odd

and I questioned Mick
a little bit about it

and I said, well what happens now,

what are you gonna do.

And he said, "It goes on, it goes on."

I said, "What goes on?"

He said, "Everything."

And everything did go on.

Of course they got Mick Taylor involved

and did the Hyde Park concert.

- Peace, peace, he is not dead,

he does not sleep,

he has awakened from the dreams of life.

- When Mick read that
appalling Shelley poem,

it was stamped on some dead butterflies

and that was supposedly that.

- Invulnerable nothings.

We decay like corpses.

- I was extremely upset when Brian died

and the streets of Cheltenham
were absolutely packed.

And I mean packed.

- We weren't welcome at the funeral

because they didn't want
that kind of press attention,

especially since it was strongly
suspected when Brian died,

we all thought that it
was an OD of some sort.

- I just felt very
sorry, very sad for him.

Of course, it wasn't until years later

that people started
making conspiracy theories

about his death.

- Can't dismiss what the coroner

actually came up with that night.

Although again, we have to also remember

that Frank Thorogood, the main builder,

the character who was
in the pool with Brian

was actually taken away that night,

he was actually arrested.

I could look at it in one sense

and say hay, the builders are sacked,

he's dead a few hours later

which could easily lead you to believe

that there was some revenge.

- And he rang me the
evening sadly that he died

and he seemed to me absolutely fine

but we'd been several times before,

I can't remember, the boys
remember more than I do,

and they were explicitly
told do not touch.

And I think it was an
inhaler but I could be wrong,

his medicine, it was called his medicine.

It was always by the
side of the pool in case

and I was asked if there
had been a party going on.

As far as I know there
was no party going on.

Yes, there were people in the background

and people at the house,
throughout the house

but it wasn't a party, I would've heard.

- But I think that there was
definitely partying happening

and definitely cars leaving

and the builders getting out of there

but it would've been an impromptu
party at Brian's expense

rather than a Brian Jones
party that he had held himself.

I suspect it would be
another example of those guys

exploiting him.

- I found out later snippets
from various people.

The builder who was involved
in this, Frank Thorogood,

who was in the pool with
Brian at some stage.

- He's had a lot of building work done

but it's not been that very satisfactory.

He fires the builders.

The builders hang around, however.

And there's a party that night.

- The Nicholas Fitzgerald book

was dismissed by everybody at the time

but I think that probably got right.

I think what Nicholas did,

he turned up to go and see Brian,

one of those guys that
Brian had befriended again

probably thought he was
a good friend of Brian's

but probably wouldn't
have lasted very long.

Turn up with the maid,

went, came down the lane to see Brian,

saw through the trees that
there was all this activity

going on in the pool, not liking it,

someone pops up, almost
certainly Tom Keylock,

and threatens him.

People claim they saw a lot of horseplay

going on in the swimming pool

'cause of course the
official cause of death

is death by drowning.

- Brian was provoking him in some way

with a little bit of banter
if you wanna call it that

and the banter got a bit nasty

and there was a bit of
horseplay in the pool.

And Thorogood left him in a state

either after a ducking
or a push or whatever

and walked away and left him

not really knowing or caring
what condition he was in.

- Brian died during some kind of party

in an accident that went wrong,

I would say that's pretty
much kind of what happened

but if there were other
witnesses to his death

I think one of them would've
come forward by now.

- The relationship with the builder

was a horrible, awful relationship.

It was a sick relationship,
that's quite clear.

And the builder was sick fucker

and Brian was a sick fucker

but I don't think that guy murdered him.

I think the guy might've
contributed to his death,

certainly, they might've
been fooling around

but I don't think that he murdered Brian.

- This nasty incident led
to Brian not being murdered

but being, the technicality
is manslaughter.

- The first officer on the scene

was a young PC Albert Evans

and he spoke to about
20 people in the garden.

He put it all in his notebook,

they all near enough said the same thing.

There had been a fight
between Frank Thorogood

and Brian Jones that led to
the death of Brian Jones.

When Bob Marshall, the CID
officer who led the investigation

turned up about four hours later.

The first person he
spoke to was Albert Evans

and he led him away from Cotchford Farm,

walked him out the lane and
he said what have you heard,

what do you think?

And young PC Evans said
everyone's saying the same thing,

there's been a fight between
Frank Thorogood and Brian Jones

which has led to the death of Brian Jones.

At that point, Marshall put
his arm around PC Evans,

said that'll be the last we hear of that

and led him back to the house.

And from that point onwards
the real police investigation

into the death of Brian Jones ended

and what they found as a result of that

was a constructed story.

We know from the two drug
squad officers who arrived

at the scene at Cotchford Farm

about one o'clock in the morning

that Frank Thorogood
wasn't at Cotchford Farm

at that poin, he'd been
taken down to the hospital

and he'd been taken down to the hospital

because of treatment that
was required to his hand.

I can only assume from what
scene has been described

at Cotchford Farm that Frank
would've injured his hand

in that fight with Brian.

- The builders had been
fired that same day

and they were very upset with Brian,

they believed that they
had money owed to them.

- Anna Wohlin was probably
the youngest person there

in the garden on the night
of Brian Jones' death.

She was undoubtedly, she says it herself,

she was high, she'd been taking drugs

and she freaked out when Brian Jones died.

She was still like that days later

and she was angry about it as well.

She was confused, she was
starting to speak out about it.

Everybody who turned up at Cotchford Farm

would hear Anna saying he didn't die

through drink and drugs.

It was a fight that had led to the death

so the decision was taken to remove Anna

from Cotchford Farm and
bring her up to London

to stay with Bill Wyman
and his girlfriend Astrid.

Up here in London, Anna carried
on talking about the truth,

she kept on saying that Brian
Jones had died in a fight

and people needed to know this

and she arranged through a friend to speak

to the Times newspaper
and to tell them the truth

and at that point she was
sharing all of this with Astrid

and within hours she'd been put in a car

and she'd been driven across
London to Allen Klein's house.

She had to stay in the
UK because of the inquest

that took place four
days after Brian's death

but she was driven from the inquest

by Rolling Stones management,
taken to Heathrow,

thrown on a plane and
told never to come back.

- When we found Anna she
said one of the reasons

she did not come forward was
that she was scared of Tom

and that she had been
warned after the inquest.

- I would've been much more frightened

to have been threatened by Tom
Keylock than by Allen Klein.

Keylock was a funny guy.

- Janet also was having an
affair with Tom at the time

and it seemed that the reason
she was also frightened

of talking about the whole thing

and she almost got into hiding
was because of Tom Keylock.

Tom held the key to this thing

and he openly said that he believed

that his colleague at the time

who is of course deceased when
we were looking into this,

Frank, had murdered Brian.

- So Keylock, that worked for Keith,

was down there at the farm,
he had gotten down there

and the various tidbits
that I gleaned and learned

over the next couple of days
have always disturbed me

since those days,

one of which was that he
was burning stuff there,

so none of us could really
understand what that was.

What was he burning?

What he was burning, because
none of it ever showed up,

was a lot of receipts
that were to do, I think,

with the building work.

The building work that had
been going on at the farm

was very expensive and there
was a whole bunch of people

living on Brian's tab.

- My conclusion in the
end was that he was being

royally exploited by Tom Keylock primarily

who even in his death was exploiting him.

He had taken his Rolls Royce,
he had taken his clothes,

he had taken his possessions,

he somehow managed to
inveigle a lot of money

out of the Rolling Stones and
again nobody quite knows why.

- Tom Keylock was having
an affair with this girl

who announced that she was pregnant

so Tom Keylock, instead of being,

officially he was somewhere else

but actually he was at Cotchford
when this thing happened.

When Brian died he called Frank,

Frank Keylock, his brother,

who was very high up in the CID

and he got the whole thing supposedly

on behalf of the Stones,

they kind of manipulated this thing,

that's where people get really confused

but Keylock was acting on his own

without any mandate from anybody else

to cover his own ass about his own affair.

- Frank Keylock probably
would've helped his brother

back in return but he
wouldn't have been able

to offer as much support, as much help,

as the chief constable who'd
supersede the police officers

who were across the details
of Brian's death within hours

and they were endorsing the
police activity on the ground

that was covering up the death.

I've heard that the fighting
was going on in the gardens

rather than in the pool
itself earlier in the day

and it's interesting, there's
a trough in the garden

and that trough contained water

that would've been fresh water.

It could easily have been the case

that Brian had actually died
outside of the swimming pool

and that trough of fresh
water played a part in it.

- I ran a fan club for Brian
Jones when I was a teenager,

bit of a teenage obsession.

I went to the house, went to
Cotchford Farm, met the owner

and I became friends with Mary Hallett

who was Mrs. Hallett, who was Brian's maid

and her husband Les Hallett.

Then she passed away and
I'd still go to the house

from time to time and the
last time I saw Les Hallett

it was just hello, how are you

and then as I was leaving the area,

leaving the property of Cotchford
and going down the drive

he was running after my car saying

they drowned him in the trough,

they drowned him in the
trough and I didn't know,

what's a trough, right?

So I guess it's a barrel of some sort

but he said they drowned him the trough

and they threw him in the pool.

- That was the water that
was inside his lungs,

it wasn't chlorinated water,

there were no chemicals inside the lungs.

I've had the medical reports analyzed

by senior pathologists and they have said

that the stress on the
tissues around the heart show

that Brian Jones would've been
aware he was being murdered.

Apparently the body
responded a certain way

and they can tell it,
those experts can tell

through the tissue damage
what level of stress

the body was under.

- You can look at a contract

that's written about in many books

where Brian was due to
be paid a block of money,

100,000 pounds as a one off payment

for his departure from the Rolling Stones

that happened four weeks before he died.

He was then due to get
20,000 pounds a year

every year that the band stayed together.

So you're talking about
an awful lot of money.

Now when you look at Brian Jones' will

you can see that he died basically

without much money at all

so that money that Allen
Klein was due to pay him,

about 100,000 pounds one
off, the 20,000 pounds a year

didn't come.

- Allen Klein, you can't
involve Allen Klein in this,

Allen Klein had much more
important things to deal with

with the Beatles and so on.

- Allen Klein's making
millions of dollars anyway,

100,000 pounds to Allen Klein
is neither here nor there

when you think that he's
personally responsible

for the revenue of the Beatles
and the Rolling Stones.

He was a heavy man, no question about that

but he was a Jewish accountant.

Jewish accountants count the money,

they don't have people killed.

The idea that Allen Klein
had somebody killed,

frankly, I think it's an
insult to the man's memory.

He was a tough son of a bitch

but I don't think he was that hard.

- He was always tardy
in coughing up the money

that was their own money

because he was always
playing around with it

and it might've indirectly
caused Brian his life,

this thing that the money wasn't arriving,

that conveniently it was delayed.

- Allen Klein decided to send
his own person down there

and investigate look
into Brian Jones' death.

A report was put together, Sam Cutler,

one of the Stones' tour managers said

that a report was put together

that went back to Maddox Street,

the Rolling Stones' head office.

- He was highly suspicious of the builder.

- Months after Brian Jones' death

the Stones flew to America on what became

their most lucrative tour
of all time at that point.

If the Rolling Stones
had had to stay in the UK

because of the death into Brian Jones'

police investigations, et cetera,

it would've just been an investigation

that would get bigger
and bigger and bigger

so Allen Klein had a real investment

in making sure that tour
went ahead as planned.

- And this was something
right which makes me annoyed

'cause sometimes people say oh,

Mick and Keith had
something to do with it.

- The band, that's ridiculous,

Brian Jones was worth a lot
more to people alive than dead.

- After Brian's death, Joan
Fitzsimmons was really,

violently attacked.

Her body was found
effectively left for dead

on the side of the beach, she was blinded,

her skull was fractured
and she had teeth missing.

Shed been really badly beaten up

and if you wind things
back earlier on to that day

Frank Thorogood had
been at the family home,

he'd been banging on the door,

he'd been demanding to
know where Joan was.

He was saying she knows too
much about the Rolling Stones,

she knows too much about Brian's death

and within hours Joan was attacked.

We now know that Joan Fitzsimmons

was definitely at Brian's
house on the night he died.

She drove his girlfriend or
his ex-girlfriend Sue Potier

away from the house about
30 minutes before Brian died

and then days later Joan was in the pubs

in and around Chichester

saying it's not true what's in the papers

about Brian Jones, the
drink and drugs headlines,

they're not true, he was
attacked, there was fighting,

he was attacked and he died.

Frank Thorogood obviously
got wind of that,

he heard of that, brought
himself back down to Sussex

and within hours Joan was attacked

and her body was found left for dead.

There was a newspaper report locally

down in Chichester that
led to national newspapers

reporting that said there
was a woman in a coma

in hospital in Southampton
which is where she was taken to

that they said, everyone
said there were connections

to Brian Jones' death.

This woman in the coma
was linked to the death.

The police then shut that down

and said there were no links at all

but the police files
that have now come out

show that the police knew
the attack on Brian Jones,

the death of Brian Jones
instantly led within days

to the attack on Joan Fitzsimmons

and that the same people,
the same names were involved.

If you look at the pictures
of the before and after

you could see the level of
the violence that took place

at Cotchford Farm that night,

it was the same people involved.

It was the same police
force that then came in

to look at it.

They knew they had a dead
man in the swimming pool.

They knew they had a body left for dead

on the side of the beach

and they knew the same person was named

time and time again by witnesses,

yet they did nothing to try
and bring that man to justice.

They did everything to create headlines

that said drink and drugs are bad.

If you look back at the
social and political times

in 68, 69, to work out why did the police

or why did the home office
or why did the government

want to spin the death of Brian Jones,

you have to look at the
growth of the counterculture,

the growth of drugs for the
first time as a social problem

and you have to look
at what the home office

were advising the government,

they were basically saying
get rid of the pop stars

and you get rid of the drug problem.

If you then look at the
busts that were carried out

on Brian, on Mick in
particular, on Brian especially,

all of those drug busts, 90%
of them involved the police

actually trying to plant drugs
inside the Stones properties.

The politics at the time was to say

we've got to destroy these bands,

we've got to destroy this
counterculture that's emerging

and people like Brian
Jones represented it more

than anybody else.

Again, if you go back to
the Stones in 67, 68, 69,

Mick and Keith were not
quite as rebellious as Brian,

they certainly weren't as connected

to drink and drugs as Brian.

They didn't look as
counterculture as Brian.

He was the one,

he was the DNA of the
band's rebellious nature

and when he died he became a poster boy.

The government could
literally hold him up and say

this is what happens to
you kids if you take drugs

and it was a total, total misuse

of actually what had happened.

The man had been killed but
rather than get to the truth

they would rather spin out a lie

to suit their own political agenda

about what was going wrong
in their minds with society

and the emerging
counterculture at the time

'cause the truth is
Brian Jones was killed.

The truth is Brian Jones
didn't die of drink and drugs.

- They wanted to make an
example of him, didn't they?

They wanted to show the kids,

oh, if you behave like this
this is what's gonna happen.

Look what happened to him,

don't do drugs, don't enjoy yourself,

keep your nose clean, go and work hard.

- It piled up and all due to the fact

that the establishment wanting to do away

with the Rolling Stones.

It's very, very tragic.

That's how Brian Jones was
killed, not by any conspiracy.

- And this all came
together and I said my God,

he didn't just die, he was murdered

and the Sussex police completely bungled,

completely bungled the investigation.

All they did was just put
this in a nice little package,

then they sealed it up and
they put it in the ground

because that's the
message that they wanted

to get across to people.

They wanted to take
down the Rolling Stones,

they wanted to take down Brian Jones.

Drink and drugs, died in his pool,

nice, neat, that's it.

- I think the police in 2010
just continued the cover up

that was originally put in place in 1969.

That investigation in 1969
could've easily resulted

in the truth coming out,
they had all the evidence.

It was a very deliberate
decision at a senior level

to make sure that the
truth didn't come out.

There has never been a reason given

for why it was a 75 year rule
put onto the Brian Jones files

but what is absolutely
clear is that when you look

at the Brian Jones police investigation

that it was was a cover up

and the you look at the
Joan Fitzsimmons attack

that happened two weeks later.

If they didn't have that 75 year rule

put on that file it would be very clear

that there had been that double cover up.

It's wrong that a man's
death could be ignored

and the truth be hidden
so the establishment

could play politics with drug culture

on the back of that man's
death, that's wrong.

- Keith Richards once said about him

that he was a hard man to like.

I didn't find that.

I actually found him very easy to like.

I think he was a hard man to like

if you had to live with him,

if you had to work with him

or if you had to be with
him for long periods of time

because he had very little in
the way of moral sensibility,

he was amoral and unreliable.

- I find him a very nice,
charming, charming guy

and somewhat of an original in that band.

- I just thought he was wonderful.

Softly spoken and quite shy in a way.

- He was a very friendly,
normal guy really

and I was just impressed as
I've always been with him,

just how many instruments
the guy could play.

Much maligned I think after that people

only want to read about sex and drugs

and how many women he had,

how many children, if
he got five children,

I have no idea

and does anyone talk about the music?

I have no idea.

- He was a musical genius.

The Rolling Stones would not
have existed without him.

I think they should give
him the kind of respect

that he really deserves.

And also, the other thing about Brian is

that Brian's lifestyle,

his very evident aura of hedonism

was probably the first example
of any British rock star

living the rock n' roll lifestyle

and maybe it's also that's
a salutary warning as well.