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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:22,988 --> 00:00:24,622 No, rotate. 2 00:00:30,229 --> 00:00:31,929 You have to rotate it. 3 00:00:36,302 --> 00:00:38,369 Jesus Christ. May I? 4 00:00:59,591 --> 00:01:01,891 Oh, thank you. 5 00:01:13,472 --> 00:01:15,269 That's Linda Tripp. 6 00:01:32,523 --> 00:01:34,757 Morning, Ron. 7 00:01:42,834 --> 00:01:45,632 Hello, Ken, it's Linda Tripp. 8 00:01:45,637 --> 00:01:48,735 Again. It was alarming enough to be asked to write a how-to 9 00:01:48,740 --> 00:01:51,504 manual for my own job, but it has now been nearly 10 00:01:51,509 --> 00:01:54,107 one month since I requested the materials I need to even 11 00:01:54,112 --> 00:01:55,441 attempt to start on this, 12 00:01:55,446 --> 00:01:57,143 and-and still I've received nothing. 13 00:02:07,826 --> 00:02:08,988 At a minimum, 14 00:02:08,993 --> 00:02:10,990 I will need my correspondence books 15 00:02:10,995 --> 00:02:15,731 and all volumes of the archival histories of JCOC 59 and 60. 16 00:02:19,103 --> 00:02:22,068 If anyone cast the slightest glance at my cubicle, 17 00:02:22,073 --> 00:02:25,141 they would easily find all of these on my desk there. 18 00:02:29,213 --> 00:02:31,677 Lucianne, have you had any occasion to 19 00:02:31,682 --> 00:02:33,513 talk to Linda recently? 20 00:02:33,518 --> 00:02:36,749 I haven't talked to Linda since, uh, uh, the day 21 00:02:36,754 --> 00:02:38,618 she wore the wire to the Ritz-Carlton Hotel. 22 00:02:38,623 --> 00:02:40,686 Judge Starr asked her not to be in touch. 23 00:02:40,691 --> 00:02:43,389 - With anyone? - Right, with anyone. 24 00:02:43,394 --> 00:02:44,891 Are you surprised that only one 25 00:02:44,895 --> 00:02:47,226 out of ten Americans view her favorably? 26 00:02:47,231 --> 00:02:49,395 No, not with how the White House 27 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,631 and sundry sympathetic people have 28 00:02:51,636 --> 00:02:54,467 framed the discussion of Linda in such a negative way. 29 00:02:54,472 --> 00:02:56,935 Do you think it also might be that people don't 30 00:02:56,940 --> 00:02:58,740 like people who tape their friends? 31 00:03:12,923 --> 00:03:14,689 Rotate. 32 00:03:29,439 --> 00:03:31,069 - Hello. - Hi. 33 00:03:31,074 --> 00:03:33,638 This is all that there was. Nothing from your office... 34 00:03:33,643 --> 00:03:35,377 Ugh. 35 00:03:40,249 --> 00:03:42,813 Oh, and I, uh... I checked the machine. 36 00:03:42,818 --> 00:03:44,615 This lady named Jane from The New Yorker, 37 00:03:44,620 --> 00:03:46,383 she left, like, four messages. 38 00:03:46,388 --> 00:03:48,319 - She's writing an article about... - Fabulous. 39 00:03:48,324 --> 00:03:50,554 There's absolutely nothing I can do about that. 40 00:03:50,559 --> 00:03:53,490 Well, you could at least call her back and talk to her. 41 00:03:53,495 --> 00:03:56,560 Allison, my attorney made it very plain. It would be unwise. 42 00:03:56,565 --> 00:03:57,895 I would lose my immunity. 43 00:03:57,900 --> 00:04:00,297 Meanwhile, the Clintons get to turn me 44 00:04:00,302 --> 00:04:02,734 into Joseph Goebbels. 45 00:04:02,739 --> 00:04:04,839 And the whole world believes them. 46 00:04:07,576 --> 00:04:09,309 Mom, just come home already. 47 00:04:12,448 --> 00:04:14,782 I'm sick of staying with Dad. 48 00:04:15,785 --> 00:04:17,384 Can't blame you on that. 49 00:04:18,587 --> 00:04:20,618 Look, the reporters are gone 50 00:04:20,623 --> 00:04:22,419 from our street and I go by every day. 51 00:04:22,424 --> 00:04:24,054 Well, you shouldn't. 52 00:04:24,059 --> 00:04:25,556 It's not safe. 53 00:04:25,561 --> 00:04:27,625 But there's no one there anymore. 54 00:04:27,630 --> 00:04:29,893 I mean, come on. Mom? 55 00:04:29,898 --> 00:04:32,062 This? This is not healthy. 56 00:04:32,067 --> 00:04:34,398 You have your grand jury thing, you are under 57 00:04:34,403 --> 00:04:36,800 so much stress and you are just sitting here alone 58 00:04:36,805 --> 00:04:38,772 all day, reading articles about yourself. 59 00:04:40,842 --> 00:04:42,909 It's not just my testimony. 60 00:04:44,747 --> 00:04:46,710 I'm going to make a statement. 61 00:04:46,715 --> 00:04:48,379 What do you mean? 62 00:04:48,384 --> 00:04:52,248 I've decided, once I have my freedom back, 63 00:04:52,253 --> 00:04:55,986 I'm going to give a speech. I'm going to address the nation. 64 00:04:55,991 --> 00:04:58,024 What are you going to say? 65 00:04:59,528 --> 00:05:02,025 I'm simply going to tell my story. 66 00:05:04,269 --> 00:05:08,269 - Synced and corrected by Firefly - - www.addic7ed.com - 67 00:05:20,921 --> 00:05:23,084 It's not fair. 68 00:05:23,089 --> 00:05:27,055 He didn't get paraded down to the courthouse. 69 00:05:27,060 --> 00:05:29,089 He got to testify at home. 70 00:05:29,094 --> 00:05:30,628 I'm not the president. 71 00:05:32,598 --> 00:05:34,729 Okay, no, really... how do I look? 72 00:05:34,734 --> 00:05:36,600 I'm going for "not a deranged whore". 73 00:05:37,803 --> 00:05:39,934 Okay, what do you want me to say? 74 00:05:39,939 --> 00:05:43,738 I'm about to be questioned by 23 strangers, 75 00:05:43,743 --> 00:05:45,072 and whoever they are, 76 00:05:45,077 --> 00:05:46,974 I'm sure they already hate me. 77 00:05:46,979 --> 00:05:48,913 Are you ready? 78 00:05:53,052 --> 00:05:56,483 We committed ourselves to a comprehensive strategy 79 00:05:56,488 --> 00:06:01,856 to lower the crime rate and make America a safer place to live. 80 00:06:01,861 --> 00:06:04,792 - I gave him that tie. - What? 81 00:06:04,797 --> 00:06:06,394 ... has shown remarkable results. 82 00:06:06,399 --> 00:06:07,562 It's Zegna. 83 00:06:07,567 --> 00:06:09,498 I bought it at the Neiman's in Mazza Gallerie. 84 00:06:09,503 --> 00:06:12,065 Does he know that she is testifying today? 85 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:13,267 I'm sure. 86 00:06:13,272 --> 00:06:14,970 Do you think he's trying to send her a message? 87 00:06:14,974 --> 00:06:16,671 I mean, is that even legal? 88 00:06:16,676 --> 00:06:18,105 - Should I tell someone about that? - Mom. 89 00:06:18,109 --> 00:06:19,574 We should resolve to do better. 90 00:06:19,578 --> 00:06:22,845 It's fine. I'm not going to let it mess me up. 91 00:06:32,591 --> 00:06:37,557 She's here, she's here! She's in that car! 92 00:06:37,562 --> 00:06:38,926 - Monica! - Hey, Monica! 93 00:06:43,301 --> 00:06:45,531 I can save you, Monica! 94 00:06:47,238 --> 00:06:49,035 You are going to hell! 95 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,169 Monica, how are you feeling? 96 00:06:52,910 --> 00:06:54,743 Monica, are you in love with the president? 97 00:06:56,046 --> 00:06:57,810 Feel ready? 98 00:06:57,815 --> 00:07:00,145 I'm just excited to see the inside of a courtroom. 99 00:07:00,150 --> 00:07:02,615 You know, this is the first time Starr's given me anything 100 00:07:02,620 --> 00:07:04,216 to do beyond secretarial work. 101 00:07:04,221 --> 00:07:06,951 He is old-fashioned. 102 00:07:06,956 --> 00:07:09,121 And look, Monica and I are familiar, 103 00:07:09,126 --> 00:07:11,889 but Starr does have a point. 104 00:07:11,894 --> 00:07:14,262 It's better that a woman asks some of these questions. 105 00:07:15,265 --> 00:07:17,562 - She's here. - Okay. 106 00:07:17,567 --> 00:07:19,134 You can bring in the jury. 107 00:07:27,977 --> 00:07:32,277 - Are they already in there? - Yes, they've just been seated. 108 00:07:32,282 --> 00:07:34,749 We'll be right out here, anytime you need. 109 00:07:49,931 --> 00:07:51,762 Good morning. 110 00:07:51,767 --> 00:07:53,800 You can have a seat right there. 111 00:08:06,248 --> 00:08:07,678 Can you raise your right hand? 112 00:08:07,683 --> 00:08:09,115 Oh, sure, yes. 113 00:08:10,819 --> 00:08:14,251 Do you, Monica S. Lewinsky, swear to tell the truth, 114 00:08:14,256 --> 00:08:17,220 the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 115 00:08:17,225 --> 00:08:18,758 I do. 116 00:08:23,665 --> 00:08:26,730 Now, uh, Ms. Lewinsky, what we're going to do 117 00:08:26,735 --> 00:08:28,098 is we're going to start off 118 00:08:28,103 --> 00:08:30,303 talking about your relationship with the president. 119 00:08:32,407 --> 00:08:34,841 Do I not get to learn people's names? 120 00:08:35,944 --> 00:08:40,143 Uh, the answer to that is no. 121 00:08:40,148 --> 00:08:42,412 Um, I know it seems kind of... 122 00:08:42,417 --> 00:08:44,047 Kind of awkward. 123 00:08:44,052 --> 00:08:48,251 It's important that the record have no identifications. 124 00:08:48,256 --> 00:08:50,120 Oh, okay. 125 00:08:50,125 --> 00:08:53,156 Now, as we have discussed, our office feels you'll be more 126 00:08:53,161 --> 00:08:55,958 comfortable getting certain questions from Ms. Immergut, 127 00:08:55,963 --> 00:08:59,361 so I'm going to turn it over to her now. 128 00:08:59,366 --> 00:09:02,364 Ms. Lewinsky, can you tell the grand jury: 129 00:09:02,369 --> 00:09:04,066 when did your relationship 130 00:09:04,071 --> 00:09:06,639 with the president of the United States start? 131 00:09:07,975 --> 00:09:10,272 November 15, 1995. 132 00:09:10,277 --> 00:09:12,908 Um, it was during the shutdown 133 00:09:12,913 --> 00:09:14,444 when I was assigned to the West Wing. 134 00:09:14,449 --> 00:09:16,389 Can you tell the grand jury what happened? 135 00:09:18,318 --> 00:09:21,283 Around... uh, around 8:00 in the evening 136 00:09:21,288 --> 00:09:24,754 I was headed into Mr. Stephanopoulos's office. 137 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:28,057 The president... was in there. 138 00:09:28,062 --> 00:09:33,262 He invited me into the next room and then... 139 00:09:33,267 --> 00:09:34,963 we kissed. 140 00:09:34,968 --> 00:09:37,502 Did anything else happen between you? 141 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,774 Um... 142 00:09:43,810 --> 00:09:49,077 And we were more... physically intimate after that. 143 00:09:49,082 --> 00:09:51,082 And what do you mean by that? 144 00:10:03,362 --> 00:10:04,792 On that occasion, did you 145 00:10:04,797 --> 00:10:06,227 perform oral sex on the president? 146 00:10:06,231 --> 00:10:09,329 God, this is embarrassing. 147 00:10:09,334 --> 00:10:11,769 I assure you we won't be dwelling on this. 148 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:16,103 Yes, I did. 149 00:10:16,108 --> 00:10:18,676 Jesus. 150 00:10:19,412 --> 00:10:22,379 Was there any other physical intimacy performed? 151 00:10:26,285 --> 00:10:28,919 Everything up to oral sex. 152 00:10:30,155 --> 00:10:32,853 Now, to avoid you having to go into each subsequent 153 00:10:32,858 --> 00:10:35,122 act of physical intimacy, 154 00:10:35,127 --> 00:10:40,828 we'll introduce what we have marked as Exhibit ML-7. 155 00:10:56,681 --> 00:10:58,746 Did you provide all the information listed 156 00:10:58,751 --> 00:11:00,050 on this chart? 157 00:11:05,090 --> 00:11:06,519 Yes, I did. 158 00:11:06,524 --> 00:11:09,989 This details each of your sexual encounters 159 00:11:09,994 --> 00:11:11,057 with President Clinton. 160 00:11:11,062 --> 00:11:13,025 To the best of your knowledge, 161 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:14,263 is it all accurate? 162 00:11:15,933 --> 00:11:20,066 Yes. I want to hide under this table, but yes. 163 00:11:20,071 --> 00:11:24,403 Ms. Lewinsky, did your relationship with the president 164 00:11:24,408 --> 00:11:28,944 have a... non-sexual component? 165 00:11:29,847 --> 00:11:31,477 - Yes, it did. - Could you describe that 166 00:11:31,482 --> 00:11:32,511 for the grand jury? 167 00:11:32,516 --> 00:11:35,184 Sure, um... 168 00:11:37,355 --> 00:11:39,788 It was more than just... 169 00:11:41,359 --> 00:11:43,925 We enjoyed being with each other. 170 00:11:45,996 --> 00:11:48,260 He'd... we would tell jokes, 171 00:11:48,265 --> 00:11:50,828 talk about our childhoods, current events. 172 00:11:50,833 --> 00:11:53,068 Sometimes we'd just... 173 00:11:55,272 --> 00:11:57,168 Um, we'd just be affectionate. 174 00:11:57,173 --> 00:12:00,775 He'd push my hair out of my face. 175 00:12:02,345 --> 00:12:04,509 I think back on it and... 176 00:12:04,514 --> 00:12:07,045 he always made me smile when I was with him. 177 00:12:07,050 --> 00:12:09,350 It was a lot of, uh... 178 00:12:12,889 --> 00:12:14,455 He was sunshine. 179 00:12:22,298 --> 00:12:26,166 - We okay for a break? - Uh, yeah, ten minutes? 180 00:12:27,536 --> 00:12:29,436 Ten minutes, everyone. 181 00:12:51,612 --> 00:12:55,310 Moving through your affidavit here, let me ask you a question. 182 00:12:55,315 --> 00:12:57,612 Paragraph eight begins, 183 00:12:57,617 --> 00:12:59,981 "I have never had a sexual relationship 184 00:12:59,986 --> 00:13:01,983 with the president". 185 00:13:01,988 --> 00:13:03,121 Is that true? 186 00:13:05,325 --> 00:13:06,621 - No. - Okay, 187 00:13:06,626 --> 00:13:09,290 so the next logical follow-up is: 188 00:13:09,295 --> 00:13:12,193 why were you willing to say something false 189 00:13:12,198 --> 00:13:14,065 under penalty of perjury? 190 00:13:16,436 --> 00:13:19,367 Uh, I did not think my... my private relationship 191 00:13:19,372 --> 00:13:21,005 was anyone's business. 192 00:13:24,010 --> 00:13:27,612 No one asked me to lie... not the president, not anyone. 193 00:13:28,548 --> 00:13:32,280 I made that decision. By myself. 194 00:13:32,285 --> 00:13:36,216 And I wish I hadn't, to put it mildly. 195 00:13:36,221 --> 00:13:38,152 Thank you. 196 00:13:38,157 --> 00:13:40,958 Now, the grand jury has some questions for you. 197 00:13:42,695 --> 00:13:45,192 - Okay. - Did you and the president 198 00:13:45,197 --> 00:13:47,294 ever talk about denying the relationship 199 00:13:47,299 --> 00:13:48,796 if anyone asked about it? 200 00:13:48,801 --> 00:13:52,132 I offered that on-on my own. 201 00:13:52,137 --> 00:13:53,701 I always told him I would deny it. 202 00:13:53,706 --> 00:13:55,637 Why did you keep that stained black dress? 203 00:13:55,641 --> 00:13:57,337 - It's a blue dress. - Blue. - Blue. 204 00:13:57,342 --> 00:13:59,339 Answer the question, please. 205 00:13:59,344 --> 00:14:02,509 Well, I have a lot of clothes, 206 00:14:02,514 --> 00:14:04,945 and so I don't usually dry-clean things 207 00:14:04,950 --> 00:14:06,647 until I'm going to wear them again. 208 00:14:06,652 --> 00:14:08,449 Like, I don't know how you guys are, 209 00:14:08,454 --> 00:14:10,217 but you have clothes to dry-clean 210 00:14:10,222 --> 00:14:12,386 and you kind of keep them in your closet until you 211 00:14:12,391 --> 00:14:14,821 dry-clean them all together when you need them. 212 00:14:14,826 --> 00:14:18,224 And now I feel like I'm talking about 213 00:14:18,229 --> 00:14:20,594 dry-cleaning too much and the process around dry-cleaning. 214 00:14:20,599 --> 00:14:24,465 Anyway, with that dress... 215 00:14:24,470 --> 00:14:26,233 I was going to wear it again 216 00:14:26,238 --> 00:14:28,469 and when I told Linda that, 217 00:14:28,474 --> 00:14:30,540 she told me I looked heavy in it. 218 00:14:31,843 --> 00:14:34,541 Um, so I-I never ended up wearing it again. 219 00:14:34,546 --> 00:14:39,216 Ergo I never cleaned it. Does that answer your question? 220 00:14:40,285 --> 00:14:44,250 Ms. Lewinsky, did your mother ever discourage 221 00:14:44,255 --> 00:14:46,388 your relationship with the president? 222 00:14:47,525 --> 00:14:48,622 Oh, yes. 223 00:14:48,627 --> 00:14:51,127 Well, then, what kept it going? 224 00:14:53,431 --> 00:14:54,964 I fell in love. 225 00:14:56,167 --> 00:14:57,330 I have a question. 226 00:14:57,335 --> 00:14:59,298 You said you felt you were in 227 00:14:59,303 --> 00:15:01,234 a real relationship. 228 00:15:01,239 --> 00:15:02,635 A real connection. 229 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,508 - Yes. - With this married man. 230 00:15:06,644 --> 00:15:08,574 - Yes. - It's been in the papers 231 00:15:08,579 --> 00:15:10,743 you had a relationship before. 232 00:15:10,748 --> 00:15:13,479 Similar to this, a married man. 233 00:15:13,484 --> 00:15:16,882 The way Kate and Andy Bleiler made it seem on TV, 234 00:15:16,887 --> 00:15:19,352 it's-it's not entirely accurate. 235 00:15:19,357 --> 00:15:21,186 I-If that's the part that you're, um... 236 00:15:21,191 --> 00:15:22,989 The only part I know is that 237 00:15:22,994 --> 00:15:25,691 he was a married man and had a family. 238 00:15:25,696 --> 00:15:27,393 Yes. 239 00:15:27,398 --> 00:15:29,665 Like I know about the president. 240 00:15:30,834 --> 00:15:34,533 We're asked to trust your version of events, 241 00:15:34,538 --> 00:15:37,402 but it seems you arrived in D.C. and sought out 242 00:15:37,407 --> 00:15:41,309 a-an affair based on deception and lies. 243 00:15:42,479 --> 00:15:44,712 Did you not believe that this was wrong? 244 00:15:49,186 --> 00:15:50,818 My intention... 245 00:15:52,422 --> 00:15:54,822 ... when I came to Washington was to start over. 246 00:15:56,493 --> 00:15:58,423 I did not want to have another affair 247 00:15:58,428 --> 00:16:00,492 with a married man because it was horrible. 248 00:16:00,497 --> 00:16:03,094 And I don't know why I did it again. 249 00:16:03,099 --> 00:16:05,863 I just know that I did it again. 250 00:16:07,869 --> 00:16:10,568 And I know a lot of... a lot of people think that 251 00:16:10,573 --> 00:16:12,769 that's wrong, and so do I. 252 00:16:12,774 --> 00:16:17,344 I know there's a lot of work I need to do on myself. 253 00:16:19,515 --> 00:16:21,845 I just feel I had to ask the question because 254 00:16:21,850 --> 00:16:23,414 a lot of us are confused. 255 00:16:23,419 --> 00:16:25,216 - I'm not. - No need to be rude. 256 00:16:25,221 --> 00:16:26,950 Oh, it's okay. 257 00:16:26,955 --> 00:16:28,586 In a way, I really, I really appreciate 258 00:16:28,591 --> 00:16:30,022 you asking me where I'm coming from, 259 00:16:30,026 --> 00:16:32,823 'cause most people just assume when it comes to me, so... 260 00:16:32,828 --> 00:16:36,360 Um, I really respect your question 261 00:16:36,365 --> 00:16:38,298 and I-I appreciate what you're saying. 262 00:16:39,401 --> 00:16:40,663 Whatever your name is. 263 00:16:40,668 --> 00:16:42,432 Oh, Ms. Lewinsky... 264 00:16:42,437 --> 00:16:45,235 Can you, can you guys call me Monica? 265 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,936 Are-are they allowed to call me Monica? 266 00:16:46,941 --> 00:16:48,441 If you say so. 267 00:16:50,612 --> 00:16:51,874 Sure. 268 00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:54,877 I'm just 25. Please. 269 00:16:54,882 --> 00:16:58,782 But you'll be Ms. Lewinsky whether you're 25 or 28 or... 270 00:16:58,787 --> 00:17:01,818 Not when I get married. 271 00:17:02,323 --> 00:17:06,325 Monica, do you still love the president? 272 00:17:12,333 --> 00:17:15,464 The day they held me at the Ritz, 273 00:17:15,469 --> 00:17:19,268 they wanted me to turn on him. 274 00:17:19,273 --> 00:17:21,370 I said no. 275 00:17:21,375 --> 00:17:24,406 I-I did not want to do anything to let him get hurt. 276 00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:26,308 And then when this all came out, 277 00:17:26,313 --> 00:17:28,543 the-the people that worked for him, 278 00:17:28,548 --> 00:17:30,479 they trashed me. 279 00:17:30,484 --> 00:17:32,013 They claim that they haven't, 280 00:17:32,018 --> 00:17:35,284 but they call me a stalker. They called me a liar. 281 00:17:35,289 --> 00:17:39,257 They say I'm inappropriate. I mean, you all know. 282 00:17:40,527 --> 00:17:42,794 And then he makes this speech. 283 00:17:44,298 --> 00:17:46,561 And he says... 284 00:17:46,566 --> 00:17:48,796 He makes it seem like... 285 00:17:48,801 --> 00:17:51,198 all that he cares about is how unfair all of this 286 00:17:51,203 --> 00:17:53,270 - has been to him. - Mm. 287 00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:57,941 So to... sorry... to answer your question, um... 288 00:18:00,913 --> 00:18:02,943 ... it turns out he's not who I thought he was. 289 00:18:02,948 --> 00:18:05,779 Monica, about that day you just mentioned 290 00:18:05,784 --> 00:18:07,548 when you were approached by Mr. Emmick 291 00:18:07,553 --> 00:18:10,318 and the OIC, can you tell us a little bit about that? 292 00:18:10,323 --> 00:18:11,352 Oh, um... 293 00:18:11,357 --> 00:18:14,922 If I could ask, uh, what areas are you 294 00:18:14,927 --> 00:18:16,090 wanting to get into? 295 00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:19,694 Because we're already tight for time and, uh, 296 00:18:19,699 --> 00:18:21,295 well, you know, there were... 297 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:23,330 many hours of activity. 298 00:18:23,335 --> 00:18:24,934 Just want to know about that day. 299 00:18:26,371 --> 00:18:29,369 Okay, well, how about we table that for now... 300 00:18:29,374 --> 00:18:30,819 No, I want to hear about that. 301 00:18:30,824 --> 00:18:32,539 We should be able to hear about that day. 302 00:18:32,544 --> 00:18:34,106 Let her talk. Why not? 303 00:18:34,111 --> 00:18:36,443 Let her talk. 304 00:18:36,448 --> 00:18:38,748 All right, go ahead. 305 00:18:40,084 --> 00:18:42,048 So, you were approached in the food court 306 00:18:42,053 --> 00:18:44,317 at Pentagon City by two FBI agents. 307 00:18:44,322 --> 00:18:46,720 Linda Tripp had lied to get you there. Is that right? 308 00:18:46,725 --> 00:18:48,055 Uh, yes. 309 00:18:48,060 --> 00:18:51,090 And then they proceeded to take you up to a hotel room. 310 00:18:51,095 --> 00:18:52,995 Why didn't you ask for your lawyer? 311 00:18:54,399 --> 00:18:55,698 I did. 312 00:18:57,368 --> 00:18:59,865 But they told me I was in trouble and that 313 00:18:59,870 --> 00:19:02,701 I wouldn't be able to help myself with my attorney present, 314 00:19:02,706 --> 00:19:04,737 so I just did what they said. 315 00:19:04,742 --> 00:19:07,840 It was the FBI and I was really scared. 316 00:19:07,845 --> 00:19:09,745 What happened when you got up there? 317 00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:20,021 S-Sorry. 318 00:19:21,091 --> 00:19:24,426 Would it be okay... uh, can you step out? 319 00:19:26,864 --> 00:19:29,895 Karin can take over from here, right? 320 00:19:29,900 --> 00:19:32,096 Karin can take over. 321 00:19:32,101 --> 00:19:33,601 Karin can stay. 322 00:19:49,652 --> 00:19:51,452 Thank you. 323 00:19:59,462 --> 00:20:03,160 They said if I called my lawyer, I wouldn't be offered immunity. 324 00:20:03,165 --> 00:20:05,698 Did you feel threatened by that? 325 00:20:06,601 --> 00:20:08,966 Did they offer you a chance to call another attorney? 326 00:20:08,971 --> 00:20:10,767 They suggested one. 327 00:20:10,772 --> 00:20:12,736 Did you take them up on that? 328 00:20:12,741 --> 00:20:14,838 - No. - Why not? 329 00:20:14,843 --> 00:20:17,774 - Because I didn't trust them. - Hmm. 330 00:20:17,779 --> 00:20:20,711 It sounds as though they were actively discouraging you 331 00:20:20,716 --> 00:20:22,179 from talking to an attorney. 332 00:20:22,184 --> 00:20:24,114 Well, from talking to Frank Carter. 333 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,687 Yes, Frank Carter, my only attorney. 334 00:20:28,757 --> 00:20:30,523 Are we due for a ten-minute break? 335 00:20:31,526 --> 00:20:32,823 No, ma'am. 336 00:20:44,839 --> 00:20:47,803 It lasted about 12 hours in total. 337 00:20:47,808 --> 00:20:50,739 My God. Wow. 338 00:20:50,744 --> 00:20:53,742 And they told me over and over that I was free 339 00:20:53,747 --> 00:20:55,448 to leave, but I didn't. 340 00:20:58,086 --> 00:21:00,216 I didn't understand because they also said 341 00:21:00,221 --> 00:21:02,552 they were prepared to indict me and I could 342 00:21:02,557 --> 00:21:05,921 spend up to 28 years in prison and that they would 343 00:21:05,926 --> 00:21:09,993 prosecute my mother if I didn't help them, you know? So... 344 00:21:09,998 --> 00:21:13,528 I was, uh, confused and, uh... 345 00:21:13,533 --> 00:21:15,099 Were you angry? 346 00:21:17,971 --> 00:21:20,869 Yes, mostly at myself. 347 00:21:20,874 --> 00:21:22,940 For ending up in this situation. 348 00:21:25,712 --> 00:21:28,676 And for putting the president at risk. 349 00:21:28,681 --> 00:21:29,947 And... 350 00:21:32,085 --> 00:21:36,084 And-and for, uh, doing this to my family. 351 00:21:36,089 --> 00:21:39,254 Monica, they set you in a trap. 352 00:21:39,259 --> 00:21:40,956 - Mm-hmm. - It's what they do. 353 00:21:40,961 --> 00:21:43,691 Monica, is there anything else you'd like to add 354 00:21:43,696 --> 00:21:45,060 to your testimony? 355 00:21:45,065 --> 00:21:47,097 We want to give you the fullest opportunity. 356 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,498 Um... 357 00:21:50,503 --> 00:21:52,901 Uh... 358 00:21:54,774 --> 00:21:59,541 I guess I want to say that no one asked me to lie. 359 00:21:59,546 --> 00:22:02,179 And I was never promised a job for my silence. 360 00:22:03,716 --> 00:22:05,082 Mostly I'm sorry. 361 00:22:06,753 --> 00:22:08,986 I'm really sorry for everything that happened. 362 00:22:13,593 --> 00:22:16,090 And I hate Linda Tripp. 363 00:22:16,095 --> 00:22:17,892 I know that's right. 364 00:22:17,897 --> 00:22:20,126 Forget her. 365 00:22:20,131 --> 00:22:23,900 - What goes around comes around. - It does. 366 00:22:32,412 --> 00:22:35,107 I am going to go in and remove some 367 00:22:35,112 --> 00:22:37,822 extra cartilage and bone right here. 368 00:22:37,827 --> 00:22:40,057 Then I'm going to go ahead and pull the skin 369 00:22:40,062 --> 00:22:42,593 off of the issue so I can chisel that bump down. 370 00:22:42,598 --> 00:22:45,830 Then we fracture it so that we can close the roof, 371 00:22:45,835 --> 00:22:47,865 much the same way you would on a house. 372 00:22:47,870 --> 00:22:48,999 Does that make sense? 373 00:22:49,004 --> 00:22:50,802 Um... 374 00:22:50,807 --> 00:22:52,169 Yeah. 375 00:22:52,174 --> 00:22:54,705 Dr. Loeb does wonderful work. 376 00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:56,841 Oh, thanks. Okay, I'm going to go ahead 377 00:22:56,846 --> 00:22:59,109 and step out and do my final prep. 378 00:22:59,114 --> 00:23:01,045 I'll see you in there. 379 00:23:01,050 --> 00:23:02,850 Okay. 380 00:23:06,555 --> 00:23:09,753 - Where's Steve? - Oh, he didn't want to come. 381 00:23:09,758 --> 00:23:13,790 Is he still in a funk about losing his job? 382 00:23:13,795 --> 00:23:15,726 Gosh, yes, he's... 383 00:23:15,731 --> 00:23:19,396 blaming my case and says the airline fired him because of 384 00:23:19,401 --> 00:23:21,866 pressure from Clinton, but, Susie, 385 00:23:21,871 --> 00:23:25,235 he wouldn't work the hours that they wanted him to. 386 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,670 I think that's all that it is. 387 00:23:26,675 --> 00:23:28,141 Well, did you tell him that? 388 00:23:29,711 --> 00:23:31,842 He won't listen to me. 389 00:23:34,582 --> 00:23:36,946 Hey. You nervous? 390 00:23:36,951 --> 00:23:39,949 I'm just glad that people'll stop making fun 391 00:23:39,954 --> 00:23:41,454 of my big ol' awful nose. 392 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,791 I'm told there is a Russian children's verse that says, 393 00:25:31,796 --> 00:25:35,195 "What do we plant when we plant a new wood? 394 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,199 Boats in which waves can safely be withstood". 395 00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:42,869 In both our nations, music education is that 396 00:25:42,874 --> 00:25:45,171 sturdy boat that lifts us up, 397 00:25:45,176 --> 00:25:49,041 that carries our unique cultural treasures into the future. 398 00:25:49,046 --> 00:25:52,812 And now, it is my honor to introduce to you Bill Clinton, 399 00:25:52,817 --> 00:25:56,051 president of the United States. 400 00:26:08,833 --> 00:26:11,630 Mr. President, Mr. Bowles said you wanted this list... 401 00:26:11,635 --> 00:26:14,036 I know what it is. Thanks. 402 00:26:22,278 --> 00:26:24,875 Betty, would you ask the first lady to come see me? 403 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,580 Right away, sir. 404 00:26:49,906 --> 00:26:51,269 You wanted to see me? 405 00:26:51,274 --> 00:26:53,808 I wanted to say something. 406 00:27:04,419 --> 00:27:07,888 25 years, you're the one opinion I give a shit about. 407 00:27:09,191 --> 00:27:13,390 Most men of our age, they... they find their wives so dull 408 00:27:13,395 --> 00:27:16,159 they cringe when she talks at dinner. 409 00:27:16,164 --> 00:27:18,428 I pity those men. 410 00:27:18,433 --> 00:27:20,901 They don't have what I do. 411 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,939 I gave in to a disgusting impulse. 412 00:27:28,944 --> 00:27:31,574 Because I didn't know how to walk down the hall 413 00:27:31,579 --> 00:27:34,176 and say to my best friend 414 00:27:34,181 --> 00:27:36,445 that this job is lonely 415 00:27:36,450 --> 00:27:38,484 and I'm worn to the bone... 416 00:27:39,921 --> 00:27:42,221 ... and I'm dead inside half the time. 417 00:27:43,958 --> 00:27:45,722 There's been hell raining down on us 418 00:27:45,727 --> 00:27:48,390 from the day we walked into this place. 419 00:27:48,395 --> 00:27:50,860 You know, every move we make... the right, 420 00:27:50,865 --> 00:27:53,096 the press, they seize, attack and drag us 421 00:27:53,101 --> 00:27:55,598 through the streets over nothing. 422 00:27:55,603 --> 00:27:59,335 And I know it's stupid, but when Newt shuts down the government, 423 00:27:59,340 --> 00:28:01,938 and Starr has slithered into our lives 424 00:28:01,943 --> 00:28:04,740 to look for malfeasance in every line of every receipt 425 00:28:04,745 --> 00:28:06,942 of every piddly thing we've ever bought, 426 00:28:06,947 --> 00:28:09,511 I thought I had to be strong for us. 427 00:28:09,516 --> 00:28:12,050 And instead, I fucked it all up. 428 00:28:21,461 --> 00:28:23,992 When it first came out, I was so ashamed I wanted to 429 00:28:23,997 --> 00:28:25,997 crawl in a hole and disappear. 430 00:28:28,935 --> 00:28:31,502 I couldn't bear what I'd done to you and Chelsea. 431 00:28:33,306 --> 00:28:36,374 I couldn't face telling you, I just couldn't. 432 00:28:38,510 --> 00:28:41,178 So I made it worse and I lied. 433 00:28:49,889 --> 00:28:54,024 Everything good in my life comes out of us together. 434 00:28:57,963 --> 00:29:00,397 I don't know who I am without you. 435 00:29:01,633 --> 00:29:04,665 I know you said you didn't care why it happened. 436 00:29:04,670 --> 00:29:07,071 But I wanted you to know. 437 00:29:13,044 --> 00:29:14,340 Is that all? 438 00:29:14,345 --> 00:29:16,109 No. 439 00:29:16,114 --> 00:29:17,479 I love you. 440 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:20,316 That's all. 441 00:29:38,036 --> 00:29:40,233 - Mom? - Busy. 442 00:29:40,238 --> 00:29:41,567 There's all this stuff in here. 443 00:29:41,572 --> 00:29:43,003 I didn't know that you were arrested. 444 00:29:43,007 --> 00:29:44,470 It was a teen prank. 445 00:29:44,475 --> 00:29:46,805 Some boys put things in my purse as a joke. 446 00:29:46,810 --> 00:29:48,406 Okay, but this part about your dad... 447 00:29:48,411 --> 00:29:50,476 I mean, you don't talk about him my entire life and I have 448 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,148 no idea why until someone writes an article about it. 449 00:30:05,428 --> 00:30:07,295 Oh, my God. 450 00:30:13,237 --> 00:30:15,203 Jesus Christ. 451 00:30:18,175 --> 00:30:20,237 - Unbelievable. - What? 452 00:30:20,242 --> 00:30:22,240 None of this is what I asked for. 453 00:30:22,245 --> 00:30:24,843 They know what I need to do my job and they... 454 00:30:24,848 --> 00:30:28,182 they send me a completely useless pile of paper. 455 00:30:29,451 --> 00:30:31,418 And look at the shape it's in. 456 00:30:38,694 --> 00:30:40,258 This is a message. 457 00:30:40,263 --> 00:30:43,130 Could just be one of the lazier secretaries. 458 00:30:45,367 --> 00:30:46,633 Bring my purse. 459 00:30:54,376 --> 00:30:57,774 - Oh, my God. - Linda, 460 00:30:57,779 --> 00:30:59,076 I didn't know you were coming in. 461 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,681 I need to see Ken. 462 00:31:09,325 --> 00:31:11,789 - Excuse me. - I work here. 463 00:31:11,794 --> 00:31:13,259 Uh... 464 00:31:15,364 --> 00:31:18,362 No, I have to go. Okay, it's just... Leave us. 465 00:31:18,367 --> 00:31:20,664 Linda, you know you cannot just... 466 00:31:20,669 --> 00:31:22,634 Did you oversee and approve this shipment? 467 00:31:22,638 --> 00:31:24,667 - What? - It's a simple question. 468 00:31:24,672 --> 00:31:27,570 Did you oversee and approve this shipment? 469 00:31:27,575 --> 00:31:30,173 - I can't say that I have any... - Because I asked for the basic materials 470 00:31:30,177 --> 00:31:32,475 I need to do my job and what I got 471 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,445 was random printed email traffic. 472 00:31:35,450 --> 00:31:39,449 Some JCOC participant list thrown violently into a box. 473 00:31:39,454 --> 00:31:42,251 - Linda. - This is chilling. 474 00:31:42,256 --> 00:31:45,822 This is veiled hostility from my colleagues, 475 00:31:45,827 --> 00:31:47,589 simply because I'm a cooperating witness 476 00:31:47,594 --> 00:31:48,725 in a federal investigation. 477 00:31:48,730 --> 00:31:50,593 I'm sure it was just an honest mistake. 478 00:31:50,598 --> 00:31:53,295 - We are past that, Ken. - Listen. 479 00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:55,297 Just write down exactly what you need 480 00:31:55,302 --> 00:31:57,633 - and then we... - What I need 481 00:31:57,638 --> 00:32:00,836 is to come here like normal and do my work. 482 00:32:00,841 --> 00:32:03,005 And I do not doubt that you'll be able to do that soon, 483 00:32:03,010 --> 00:32:04,275 and that things will settle down, 484 00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:06,509 but DOD just opened this investigation 485 00:32:06,514 --> 00:32:07,946 - and until we... - What? 486 00:32:09,182 --> 00:32:10,348 What investigation? 487 00:32:14,354 --> 00:32:16,117 They'll be contacting you. 488 00:32:16,122 --> 00:32:17,453 When you were hired, 489 00:32:17,458 --> 00:32:21,990 you affirmed on your DD 398 that you had never been arrested. 490 00:32:21,995 --> 00:32:23,393 Now, The New Yorker has come out... 491 00:32:23,397 --> 00:32:24,993 It was a teen prank! 492 00:32:24,998 --> 00:32:26,998 - Linda... - On me! 493 00:32:29,102 --> 00:32:30,932 The charges were dropped. 494 00:32:30,937 --> 00:32:34,202 Linda, you cannot lie to the Department of Defense 495 00:32:34,207 --> 00:32:35,836 on a security clearance form. 496 00:32:35,841 --> 00:32:38,275 That is a serious crime. 497 00:32:39,344 --> 00:32:40,778 I see. 498 00:32:42,815 --> 00:32:44,214 I see now. 499 00:32:45,217 --> 00:32:46,447 You see what? 500 00:32:46,452 --> 00:32:49,283 They're really coming after me. 501 00:32:49,288 --> 00:32:51,388 Okay, well... 502 00:33:06,638 --> 00:33:09,135 Good afternoon, ma'am. I'm Special Agent Irons 503 00:33:09,140 --> 00:33:10,837 with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. 504 00:33:10,842 --> 00:33:12,639 This is Special Agent Fallon. 505 00:33:12,644 --> 00:33:15,077 Do you have a moment to speak with us? 506 00:33:19,617 --> 00:33:21,180 Thank you, ma'am. 507 00:33:21,185 --> 00:33:22,782 We're detailed with the Office 508 00:33:22,787 --> 00:33:24,884 of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr. 509 00:33:24,889 --> 00:33:26,786 Perhaps you've seen Judge Starr on the news. 510 00:33:26,791 --> 00:33:29,388 Well, he's finishing up his investigation, 511 00:33:29,393 --> 00:33:31,324 preparing to make a report to Congress. 512 00:33:31,329 --> 00:33:33,359 We're just here following up on some threads. 513 00:33:33,364 --> 00:33:35,928 Ma'am, as you may know, the president and others 514 00:33:35,933 --> 00:33:38,530 are in legal peril because of false affidavits 515 00:33:38,535 --> 00:33:40,433 filed in the Paula Jones lawsuit. 516 00:33:40,438 --> 00:33:43,168 We're just dotting our I's, Ms. Broaddrick. You understand. 517 00:33:43,173 --> 00:33:46,238 Now, here is your Jones affidavit. 518 00:33:46,243 --> 00:33:48,307 You swore this a few months back. 519 00:33:48,312 --> 00:33:50,376 Here, you state that President Bill Clinton 520 00:33:50,381 --> 00:33:53,479 never made any unwanted sexual advances toward you. 521 00:33:53,484 --> 00:33:57,215 Ma'am, were you being truthful when you signed your name 522 00:33:57,220 --> 00:33:58,687 to this statement? 523 00:34:12,512 --> 00:34:13,874 I don't... 524 00:34:13,879 --> 00:34:15,480 I don't get it. 525 00:34:16,749 --> 00:34:18,916 Okay. Thank you. Bye. 526 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,882 How was your audition? 527 00:34:21,887 --> 00:34:23,784 It sucked. 528 00:34:23,789 --> 00:34:28,126 - Who was that? - The lawyers. They said... 529 00:34:29,462 --> 00:34:31,359 ... the judge did a summary judgment. 530 00:34:31,364 --> 00:34:33,828 Mm. What is that? 531 00:34:33,833 --> 00:34:36,230 It's... it's bad. 532 00:34:36,235 --> 00:34:39,737 It means that she threw out the case. 533 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,604 The Supreme Court said you had a case. 534 00:34:42,609 --> 00:34:45,773 But now the judge says I don't, so I... 535 00:34:45,778 --> 00:34:47,574 I guess it's over. 536 00:34:47,579 --> 00:34:51,178 What? What-what do we get? How much money we get? 537 00:34:51,183 --> 00:34:53,547 Well, that's what I'm saying. Um... 538 00:34:53,552 --> 00:34:55,916 It's nothing. We get nothing. 539 00:34:55,921 --> 00:34:57,685 - The fuck?! - I know. 540 00:34:57,690 --> 00:34:59,987 - I know, I need to call Susie. - Oh, yeah, great idea. 541 00:34:59,992 --> 00:35:02,162 Smart. She always makes things better. 542 00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:04,194 - Steve, don't. - No, no, we need to go back 543 00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:05,527 and we need to take Clinton's deal. 544 00:35:05,531 --> 00:35:06,727 I wanted that money. 545 00:35:06,732 --> 00:35:10,864 What? No, no, but you and Susie 546 00:35:10,869 --> 00:35:13,033 told me that I shouldn't take it, so... 547 00:35:13,038 --> 00:35:15,836 I don't wanna hear your fucking voice. 548 00:35:15,841 --> 00:35:18,638 Wait, but that is not fair because I... gosh, 549 00:35:18,643 --> 00:35:21,307 I only ever started doing this 'cause you wanted me to. 550 00:35:21,312 --> 00:35:24,210 I-I did... I did all this for you. 551 00:35:24,215 --> 00:35:27,080 You sound pretty stupid right now with your face 552 00:35:27,085 --> 00:35:29,415 all broken from a nose job. 553 00:35:29,420 --> 00:35:31,951 Because I got a bad nose, 554 00:35:31,956 --> 00:35:34,087 which I didn't even know I had 555 00:35:34,092 --> 00:35:36,690 until you made me do this and be on TV 556 00:35:36,695 --> 00:35:40,226 and people laughed at me, but... 557 00:35:40,231 --> 00:35:42,796 but I did it, like I always do what you say. 558 00:35:42,801 --> 00:35:44,731 You think I liked moving to California, 559 00:35:44,736 --> 00:35:46,232 where I've never seen so many people 560 00:35:46,237 --> 00:35:47,701 who smile while they hate you 561 00:35:47,706 --> 00:35:49,669 and it makes my skin fucking crawl 562 00:35:49,674 --> 00:35:51,971 and it's sunny all day and it's... 563 00:35:51,976 --> 00:35:53,739 You think it'll be better if we move home, 564 00:35:53,744 --> 00:35:56,509 where everyone knows exactly who you are and what you did? 565 00:35:56,514 --> 00:35:58,314 What do you mean, "what I did"? 566 00:36:01,785 --> 00:36:03,385 What do you mean? 567 00:36:05,656 --> 00:36:09,091 Say it. Say it, Steve. 568 00:36:12,496 --> 00:36:14,360 You think I did it. 569 00:36:14,365 --> 00:36:17,299 You think I went up there and I gave him a blow job. 570 00:36:20,904 --> 00:36:23,505 Yeah, okay, okay. 571 00:36:24,775 --> 00:36:28,273 I can take this from Jay Leno 572 00:36:28,278 --> 00:36:32,744 and people laughing at me at Vons, but... 573 00:36:32,749 --> 00:36:34,679 from you? 574 00:36:34,684 --> 00:36:36,681 You're supposed to believe me! 575 00:36:36,686 --> 00:36:40,852 We are fighting to show people that he did me wrong! 576 00:36:40,857 --> 00:36:43,555 And... 577 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,557 And in reality, all-all this is... 578 00:36:45,562 --> 00:36:48,392 all the press conferences and all the magazines 579 00:36:48,397 --> 00:36:50,527 and-and the TV shows 580 00:36:50,532 --> 00:36:53,298 and the lawyers and more lawyers and more lawyers... 581 00:36:53,303 --> 00:36:56,901 it's just me trying to get you to believe me! 582 00:36:56,906 --> 00:37:02,306 Which we both know you never did, so you know what? 583 00:37:02,311 --> 00:37:05,376 If you want to say I'm stupid, well, fuck you! 584 00:37:05,381 --> 00:37:07,912 But most of all, if I'm stupid on one thing, 585 00:37:07,917 --> 00:37:09,780 it was believing that you were any more 586 00:37:09,785 --> 00:37:13,153 than a chickenshit asshole who cared about me at all! 587 00:37:24,967 --> 00:37:27,634 Oh, you think I'm gonna ask you to stay?! 588 00:37:35,110 --> 00:37:37,608 Okay, it's pretty simple. 589 00:37:37,613 --> 00:37:40,276 You listen to all of these tapes. After each one, 590 00:37:40,281 --> 00:37:42,513 you sign the tape, as well as sign 591 00:37:42,518 --> 00:37:43,880 and date those documents, 592 00:37:43,885 --> 00:37:47,083 confirming that the voices are you and Linda Tripp. 593 00:37:47,088 --> 00:37:48,519 I have to listen to all of these? 594 00:37:48,524 --> 00:37:50,354 They're all evidence. 595 00:37:50,359 --> 00:37:52,489 Karin here will sit in with you. 596 00:37:52,494 --> 00:37:54,692 I would, but I gotta get to the courthouse. 597 00:37:54,697 --> 00:37:56,896 What's happening at the courthouse? 598 00:38:01,069 --> 00:38:03,734 Do you, Linda R. Tripp, swear to tell the truth, 599 00:38:03,739 --> 00:38:06,537 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 600 00:38:06,542 --> 00:38:07,874 I do. 601 00:38:12,046 --> 00:38:13,846 You ready? 602 00:38:17,051 --> 00:38:19,585 - Hi. - Hi. 603 00:38:20,855 --> 00:38:21,954 How are you? 604 00:38:23,691 --> 00:38:27,622 Uh, now, with Mr. Wisenberg's assistance, 605 00:38:27,627 --> 00:38:28,958 I'd like to read to you 606 00:38:28,963 --> 00:38:32,598 what the grand jury has come to know as Tape 11. 607 00:38:34,068 --> 00:38:36,632 You have a, uh, transcript there. 608 00:38:36,637 --> 00:38:38,404 Okay. 609 00:38:40,174 --> 00:38:42,571 "Linda, I got the creep a tie. 610 00:38:42,576 --> 00:38:44,706 It was 20 bucks at Marshalls". 611 00:38:44,711 --> 00:38:46,708 "Oh, good, who makes it?" 612 00:38:46,713 --> 00:38:49,477 "Calvin Klein. It's gorgeous, Linda". 613 00:38:49,482 --> 00:38:51,479 "Yeah, Marshalls generally, 614 00:38:51,484 --> 00:38:53,482 every now and then, you can hit". 615 00:38:53,487 --> 00:38:56,185 "It's really different from all the other ones I've given him. 616 00:38:56,189 --> 00:38:57,986 I'm putting a note with it. 617 00:38:57,991 --> 00:38:59,755 I wrote such a funny card to him". 618 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,189 Linda Tripp laughs. 619 00:39:01,194 --> 00:39:02,925 I said, "This tie will 620 00:39:02,929 --> 00:39:04,860 look good with either a taupe or navy suit 621 00:39:04,865 --> 00:39:06,528 and a white or a light blue shirt. 622 00:39:06,533 --> 00:39:08,830 - That is, if you like it". - Mm-hmm. 623 00:39:08,835 --> 00:39:10,766 "And then do you know what I wrote? 624 00:39:10,771 --> 00:39:14,703 I said, 'And just think, now you can pay homage to me 625 00:39:14,708 --> 00:39:18,006 if you want by having a work week in which you 626 00:39:18,011 --> 00:39:19,774 wear one of my ties every day.'" 627 00:39:19,779 --> 00:39:21,042 Linda Tripp laughs. 628 00:39:21,047 --> 00:39:23,144 Ms. Lewinsky laughs. 629 00:39:23,149 --> 00:39:25,047 'Cause this is the fifth one, right? 630 00:39:25,051 --> 00:39:27,415 You have to give him one for the weekend days, too. 631 00:39:27,420 --> 00:39:30,218 "That's what I want. That's my fantasy. 632 00:39:30,223 --> 00:39:33,891 To have the creep wear one of my ties every day". 633 00:39:34,860 --> 00:39:38,893 Um, Ms. Tripp, who was the creep? 634 00:39:42,701 --> 00:39:45,099 The president of the United States. 635 00:39:45,104 --> 00:39:48,436 Was this typical of the sort of subject 636 00:39:48,441 --> 00:39:50,537 you and Monica Lewinsky would discuss? 637 00:39:50,542 --> 00:39:53,673 Yes, we almost never talked about anything 638 00:39:53,678 --> 00:39:55,676 aside from the president. 639 00:39:55,681 --> 00:39:58,581 She shared a lot of intimate details with you, did she not? 640 00:40:00,718 --> 00:40:02,082 She did. 641 00:40:02,087 --> 00:40:03,417 I was upset before, 642 00:40:03,421 --> 00:40:05,152 but not like I am now. 643 00:40:05,157 --> 00:40:06,753 Oh, man. 644 00:40:06,758 --> 00:40:08,721 It's too much for one person. 645 00:40:08,726 --> 00:40:11,124 Oh, it is too much for one person. 646 00:40:11,129 --> 00:40:12,292 Yes, it is. 647 00:40:12,297 --> 00:40:15,362 Moving into November 1997. 648 00:40:15,367 --> 00:40:19,099 Is it fair to say that Ms. Lewinsky was increasingly 649 00:40:19,104 --> 00:40:21,601 distraught on her calls with you? 650 00:40:21,606 --> 00:40:25,271 Yes, she was obsessed with the president's lack of contact. 651 00:40:25,276 --> 00:40:29,341 And what typically would happen when she tried to make contact? 652 00:40:29,346 --> 00:40:32,278 She would call Betty Currie and then call me 653 00:40:32,283 --> 00:40:33,745 to tell me she called Betty. 654 00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:35,282 And then, if Betty hadn't gotten back to her 655 00:40:35,286 --> 00:40:37,183 within an hour, she would get angry 656 00:40:37,188 --> 00:40:39,785 and call Betty again, then call me again. 657 00:40:39,790 --> 00:40:43,155 Crescendoing to some sort of nuclear outburst. 658 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,424 Okay, now I'd like to move... 659 00:40:45,429 --> 00:40:47,929 Sorry, can I ask a question? 660 00:40:51,634 --> 00:40:53,999 Did you want Monica to stop calling you? 661 00:40:54,004 --> 00:40:56,101 Yes. 662 00:40:56,106 --> 00:41:00,105 Her behavior became volatile. Very erratic. 663 00:41:00,110 --> 00:41:04,075 So why did you not just say, "Please stop calling me"? 664 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,578 That's what my kid said. 665 00:41:06,583 --> 00:41:08,213 So why didn't you? 666 00:41:08,218 --> 00:41:11,082 Well, at a, at a certain point, 667 00:41:11,087 --> 00:41:13,150 you can't unring a bell. 668 00:41:13,155 --> 00:41:15,686 You talk like this was a grave situation 669 00:41:15,691 --> 00:41:17,922 and harmful for Monica, right? 670 00:41:17,927 --> 00:41:20,625 - Yes, very. - But earlier 671 00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:22,227 we heard you encouraging her 672 00:41:22,232 --> 00:41:24,661 to buy him a tie for each day of the week. 673 00:41:24,666 --> 00:41:27,197 Well, that... 674 00:41:27,202 --> 00:41:28,865 I was joking. 675 00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:32,535 And when Monica said, "I got the creep a tie. 676 00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:34,304 It was 20 bucks at Marshalls", 677 00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:36,340 you replied, "Oh, good". 678 00:41:36,345 --> 00:41:38,145 Well, I was being... 679 00:41:39,381 --> 00:41:41,211 That was more of a pro-Marshalls. 680 00:41:41,216 --> 00:41:44,915 So, was this a serious situation or was this a joking matter? 681 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,384 That's one moment out of context. 682 00:41:47,389 --> 00:41:49,619 Or were you just trying to keep her talking? 683 00:41:49,624 --> 00:41:52,025 Because by then you were taping. 684 00:41:53,494 --> 00:41:55,090 I prefer to call it documenting. 685 00:41:55,095 --> 00:41:56,194 Why did you tape her? 686 00:41:56,198 --> 00:41:58,027 We'll get to that in just a little bit. 687 00:41:58,032 --> 00:42:00,563 I documented our phone calls because I knew 688 00:42:00,568 --> 00:42:02,734 - I needed evidence. - Evidence for what? 689 00:42:04,072 --> 00:42:06,402 Well, for... so when I came forward... 690 00:42:06,407 --> 00:42:08,705 - But it was a private matter. - I don't think you comprehend... 691 00:42:08,709 --> 00:42:10,307 It was between Monica and the president. 692 00:42:10,311 --> 00:42:11,511 No one needed to know. 693 00:42:11,516 --> 00:42:14,110 Actually, this was a very young staffer 694 00:42:14,115 --> 00:42:16,745 in a workplace with the most senior official 695 00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:18,614 in that workplace making choices 696 00:42:18,619 --> 00:42:21,317 that were causing her severe distress. 697 00:42:21,322 --> 00:42:23,686 She told me on more than one occasion 698 00:42:23,691 --> 00:42:25,154 she wanted to kill herself. 699 00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:29,058 And still, the president of the United States 700 00:42:29,063 --> 00:42:31,193 used her to meet his needs. 701 00:42:31,198 --> 00:42:35,066 He had total control. His behavior was unconscionable. 702 00:42:38,071 --> 00:42:40,235 It was an abuse of power. 703 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:42,370 - Mrs. Tripp... - I had to end it. 704 00:42:42,375 --> 00:42:44,209 I had to end it. 705 00:42:49,649 --> 00:42:53,315 Mrs. Tripp, when you chose to... 706 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,784 begin documenting Monica, 707 00:42:56,789 --> 00:42:59,954 you were under enormous stress, correct? 708 00:42:59,959 --> 00:43:02,757 I was terrified. 709 00:43:02,762 --> 00:43:06,127 I knew if I came forward with no evidence, 710 00:43:06,132 --> 00:43:07,894 they would destroy me. 711 00:43:07,899 --> 00:43:10,831 When you say "they", who are you referring to? 712 00:43:10,836 --> 00:43:13,734 Bill Clinton. 713 00:43:13,739 --> 00:43:16,003 And, uh, Hillary Rodham Clinton. 714 00:43:16,008 --> 00:43:17,874 Oh, man. 715 00:43:20,112 --> 00:43:22,909 The president's lawyer had already made 716 00:43:22,914 --> 00:43:25,279 a defamatory statement about me in Newsweek. 717 00:43:25,284 --> 00:43:27,381 I was sure I was going to be subpoenaed 718 00:43:27,386 --> 00:43:29,016 in the Paula Jones case. 719 00:43:29,021 --> 00:43:31,384 I felt, if I told the truth under oath, 720 00:43:31,389 --> 00:43:33,254 I would lose my job. 721 00:43:33,259 --> 00:43:35,088 Or worse. 722 00:43:35,093 --> 00:43:37,859 You thought if you told the truth in the Paula Jones case... 723 00:43:37,864 --> 00:43:39,992 I was afraid I wouldn't even get the chance. 724 00:43:39,997 --> 00:43:42,762 Are you... are you saying you thought you would be killed? 725 00:43:42,767 --> 00:43:44,730 Yes. 726 00:43:44,735 --> 00:43:47,266 - Why? - I have what I consider 727 00:43:47,271 --> 00:43:48,868 well-founded fears 728 00:43:48,873 --> 00:43:50,970 of what this administration is capable of. 729 00:43:50,975 --> 00:43:52,838 Can you give an example? 730 00:43:52,843 --> 00:43:55,708 I have, uh, reason to believe 731 00:43:55,713 --> 00:43:57,810 that the Vince Foster tragedy was not 732 00:43:57,815 --> 00:44:00,980 depicted accurately by members of the administration. 733 00:44:00,985 --> 00:44:04,484 Are you... are you saying he didn't commit suicide? 734 00:44:04,489 --> 00:44:07,019 We will never know. 735 00:44:07,024 --> 00:44:09,421 Mrs. Tripp, do you have information 736 00:44:09,426 --> 00:44:11,924 about the White House and the death of Vince Foster? 737 00:44:11,929 --> 00:44:14,426 I'll just say this. 738 00:44:14,431 --> 00:44:17,396 The day after that tragedy, 739 00:44:17,401 --> 00:44:21,167 the behavior I saw in the West Wing frightened me. 740 00:44:21,172 --> 00:44:24,203 There was a flurry of activity, boxes 741 00:44:24,208 --> 00:44:26,438 and secrecy behind closed doors. 742 00:44:26,443 --> 00:44:28,908 I was concerned, and I was alarmed. 743 00:44:28,913 --> 00:44:31,744 Because people were meeting behind closed doors? 744 00:44:31,749 --> 00:44:35,915 It was far more ominous than that. 745 00:44:39,123 --> 00:44:42,087 I am telling you, under oath today, 746 00:44:42,092 --> 00:44:44,356 that I felt threatened. 747 00:44:44,361 --> 00:44:48,827 And I was angry. And I resented it. 748 00:44:48,832 --> 00:44:51,830 - And still do. - I have a question. 749 00:44:51,835 --> 00:44:54,199 Did you ever think about what would happen 750 00:44:54,204 --> 00:44:56,367 to Monica when all this came out? 751 00:44:59,042 --> 00:45:02,006 All right, call me back, you nut. 752 00:45:02,011 --> 00:45:05,213 - Ugh. I will, I will. - Bye. 753 00:45:14,190 --> 00:45:15,786 - Done. - Your attorney 754 00:45:15,791 --> 00:45:18,089 has a car waiting for you out back. If you want, I can... 755 00:45:18,094 --> 00:45:20,125 I know the way. 756 00:45:24,466 --> 00:45:28,232 I thought, uh, if this became public, 757 00:45:28,237 --> 00:45:31,001 Monica would not be in any sort of danger. 758 00:45:31,006 --> 00:45:33,570 But you said you felt dangers, both personal 759 00:45:33,575 --> 00:45:35,472 and professional, could befall you. 760 00:45:35,477 --> 00:45:38,311 What crossed your mind that would befall Monica? 761 00:45:39,915 --> 00:45:42,079 Uh, what-what would befall her? 762 00:45:42,084 --> 00:45:44,381 Did you have any fears for her? 763 00:45:44,386 --> 00:45:46,383 All these details in the public. 764 00:45:46,388 --> 00:45:49,253 She was... I-I think I said this. 765 00:45:49,258 --> 00:45:50,988 Uh, she was suicidal. 766 00:45:50,993 --> 00:45:52,923 You're not answering her question. 767 00:45:52,928 --> 00:45:57,861 What Monica was going through was extremely unhealthy. 768 00:45:57,866 --> 00:46:00,232 But you didn't think it would bring her harm? 769 00:46:01,602 --> 00:46:03,836 Well, not compared to... 770 00:46:06,340 --> 00:46:08,274 - No. - Why not? 771 00:46:10,178 --> 00:46:11,440 Uh, pardon? 772 00:46:11,445 --> 00:46:14,210 Why would you not think about her? 773 00:46:17,418 --> 00:46:21,884 I was thinking that she was in a tremendously bad situation. 774 00:46:23,557 --> 00:46:27,389 And do you feel now she's better off because of what you did? 775 00:46:27,394 --> 00:46:29,961 Do you feel her life is better now? 776 00:46:39,272 --> 00:46:41,572 - How'd it go? - Ready, Linda? 777 00:46:43,109 --> 00:46:44,605 You sure? 778 00:46:44,610 --> 00:46:46,577 You don't have to do this right now. 779 00:47:02,728 --> 00:47:04,425 We understand 780 00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:06,626 there is some interest in hearing from Ms. Tripp. 781 00:47:06,631 --> 00:47:09,430 She will not be taking any questions today. 782 00:47:09,435 --> 00:47:13,533 She has, however, agreed to make some brief remarks. 783 00:47:17,542 --> 00:47:21,275 Good afternoon. I'm not a public speaker. 784 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,977 I'm going to have to refer to my notes. 785 00:47:22,982 --> 00:47:24,014 Please bear with me. 786 00:47:29,121 --> 00:47:32,319 I understand that there's been a great deal of speculation 787 00:47:32,324 --> 00:47:35,689 about just who I am and how I got here. 788 00:47:35,694 --> 00:47:38,324 Well, the answer is simple. 789 00:47:38,329 --> 00:47:41,563 I'm you. I'm just like you. 790 00:47:42,666 --> 00:47:46,199 I'm an average American who found herself in a situation 791 00:47:46,204 --> 00:47:48,434 not of her own making. 792 00:47:48,439 --> 00:47:51,837 Because I am just like you, I ask you to imagine how you 793 00:47:51,842 --> 00:47:54,340 would feel if someone you thought was a friend 794 00:47:54,345 --> 00:47:56,178 urged you to commit a felony. 795 00:47:57,515 --> 00:48:00,546 Imagine how you would feel if your boss's attorney 796 00:48:00,551 --> 00:48:03,286 called you a liar in front of the whole country. 797 00:48:04,455 --> 00:48:06,119 And imagine if that boss 798 00:48:06,124 --> 00:48:08,690 was the president of the United States. 799 00:48:11,561 --> 00:48:15,460 Imagine how you would feel if your employer demoted you 800 00:48:15,465 --> 00:48:19,200 and cast you aside, for daring to tell the truth. 801 00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:26,738 Imagine how it would feel to see the pain in your children's eyes 802 00:48:26,743 --> 00:48:29,441 when they hear a seemingly endless barrage 803 00:48:29,446 --> 00:48:31,210 of lies about their mother. 804 00:48:31,215 --> 00:48:35,150 A mother who is not going out to defend herself. 805 00:48:41,258 --> 00:48:44,125 I've been vilified for taking the path of truth. 806 00:48:45,227 --> 00:48:47,325 I've been maligned by people who have chosen 807 00:48:47,330 --> 00:48:49,360 not to tell the truth, 808 00:48:49,365 --> 00:48:52,696 and who know they are not telling the truth. 809 00:48:52,701 --> 00:48:55,131 To cast me in the role of the villain, 810 00:48:55,136 --> 00:48:57,435 they have enlisted legions of paid prevaricators. 811 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,903 Not surprisingly, many from the entertainment industry 812 00:48:59,908 --> 00:49:02,276 have chosen to ridicule me as well. 813 00:49:03,512 --> 00:49:06,277 Going so far as to even make fun of my appearance 814 00:49:06,282 --> 00:49:10,047 in a manner so mean and so cruel that I pray none of you 815 00:49:10,052 --> 00:49:11,418 is ever subjected to it. 816 00:49:13,422 --> 00:49:15,286 Despite all of that, 817 00:49:15,291 --> 00:49:18,359 I bear no malice towards anyone in this case. 818 00:49:27,535 --> 00:49:29,368 I believe in our country. 819 00:49:30,472 --> 00:49:33,704 As I said, I am no different than any of you. 820 00:49:33,709 --> 00:49:37,808 I believe you have the right to tell the truth under oath 821 00:49:37,813 --> 00:49:40,547 without fear of retribution or worse. 822 00:49:42,584 --> 00:49:46,149 I hope that when all the facts are revealed, 823 00:49:46,154 --> 00:49:47,751 you'll understand that it is a right 824 00:49:47,756 --> 00:49:50,189 all of us should be fighting for. 825 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,226 Thank you. 826 00:49:56,463 --> 00:49:58,263 Why did you betray Monica Lewinsky? 827 00:49:59,366 --> 00:50:00,630 We're not taking any questions. 828 00:50:00,635 --> 00:50:02,698 Linda, do you regret taping Monica? 829 00:50:02,703 --> 00:50:04,667 Isn't it true you manipulated her? 830 00:50:04,672 --> 00:50:07,239 Did you do all this for a book deal? 831 00:50:16,512 --> 00:50:18,707 The atmosphere feels very different 832 00:50:18,712 --> 00:50:20,343 - among the party now. - Look, I've read 833 00:50:20,347 --> 00:50:21,843 the deposition and it's very clear... 834 00:50:21,848 --> 00:50:22,913 Members of President Clinton's 835 00:50:22,917 --> 00:50:24,581 own party are now wavering in their support, 836 00:50:24,585 --> 00:50:25,881 including my guest, 837 00:50:25,886 --> 00:50:27,183 Congressman Jim Moran. 838 00:50:27,188 --> 00:50:29,617 The fact is he lied to the American people. 839 00:50:29,622 --> 00:50:31,720 That is undoubtedly going to 840 00:50:31,725 --> 00:50:34,192 necessitate impeachment proceedings. 841 00:50:48,508 --> 00:50:52,607 Andrew Johnson... worst leader this country ever had. 842 00:50:53,212 --> 00:50:56,310 Racist to his core, drunk as hell 843 00:50:56,315 --> 00:50:58,381 the day he took over for Lincoln. 844 00:50:59,551 --> 00:51:03,253 1868 Congress finally impeached his ass. 845 00:51:04,656 --> 00:51:07,524 Only president that's happened to, only one. 846 00:51:08,895 --> 00:51:10,227 Till now. 847 00:51:12,064 --> 00:51:14,328 I hate it when you're like this. 848 00:51:14,333 --> 00:51:17,468 We have not lost anything, not yet. 849 00:51:22,808 --> 00:51:24,341 I'll call Jim Moran. 850 00:51:25,311 --> 00:51:27,141 What'll you say? 851 00:51:27,678 --> 00:51:31,977 I will say that if he thinks he is fighting for me, 852 00:51:31,982 --> 00:51:34,813 then he needs to fight on my side. 853 00:51:34,818 --> 00:51:37,449 And the way I see it, 854 00:51:37,454 --> 00:51:40,085 there are forces that have been trying to take my husband 855 00:51:40,090 --> 00:51:42,988 down his whole life and I don't want them to win. 856 00:51:42,993 --> 00:51:44,793 And I won't let them. 857 00:51:45,996 --> 00:51:48,260 And yes, the right's got the votes, 858 00:51:48,265 --> 00:51:50,028 and I'm sure they will do their worst. 859 00:51:50,033 --> 00:51:51,597 But to state the obvious, 860 00:51:51,602 --> 00:51:53,599 you are not Andrew fucking Johnson. 861 00:51:53,604 --> 00:51:57,269 And the last billion times the GOP has tried to destroy us, 862 00:51:57,274 --> 00:51:59,671 we have wiped the floor with them. 863 00:51:59,676 --> 00:52:01,372 Have you seen the polls? 864 00:52:01,377 --> 00:52:03,508 Every step they take towards this 865 00:52:03,513 --> 00:52:07,212 moronic idea, your approval jumps a point. 866 00:52:07,217 --> 00:52:09,014 Nobody's looking at the polls. 867 00:52:09,419 --> 00:52:11,749 My own party isn't looking at the polls. 868 00:52:11,754 --> 00:52:14,519 They just need permission to forgive you. 869 00:52:14,524 --> 00:52:17,391 Which is something that you can't give them. 870 00:52:20,596 --> 00:52:21,995 But I can. 871 00:52:24,334 --> 00:52:26,531 This is all the FBI interviews? 872 00:52:26,536 --> 00:52:28,500 We're waiting on a few more. 873 00:52:28,505 --> 00:52:30,101 We have a problem. 874 00:52:30,106 --> 00:52:31,936 We need to put Monica back under oath. 875 00:52:31,941 --> 00:52:34,538 - Why? - Our perjury charge rests on the president 876 00:52:34,543 --> 00:52:36,842 claiming that technically he didn't have sex with her because 877 00:52:36,846 --> 00:52:38,775 he never touched her with intent to arouse. 878 00:52:38,780 --> 00:52:41,345 He's lying, but here's hours and hours 879 00:52:41,350 --> 00:52:43,580 of Monica's testimony, and she never once 880 00:52:43,585 --> 00:52:44,848 speaks about all the times 881 00:52:44,853 --> 00:52:46,850 that he touched her with intent to arouse. 882 00:52:46,855 --> 00:52:48,785 It was implied on our chart. 883 00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:52,021 That's weak shit. We need her under oath, in detail, 884 00:52:52,026 --> 00:52:53,990 on all the sex, proving him wrong. 885 00:52:53,995 --> 00:52:55,726 Okay, let's bring her back in. 886 00:52:55,731 --> 00:52:59,366 Gosh, who's going to handle asking her about that? 887 00:53:00,802 --> 00:53:04,203 We are on the record. Monica, you're still under oath. 888 00:53:05,206 --> 00:53:08,471 First, I want to start by asking you a general question. 889 00:53:08,476 --> 00:53:10,406 Did your relationship with President Clinton 890 00:53:10,411 --> 00:53:12,174 start with sex and then evolve into 891 00:53:12,179 --> 00:53:13,912 a friendship or the other way around? 892 00:53:15,449 --> 00:53:17,847 It started with a physical attraction 893 00:53:17,852 --> 00:53:20,583 which led to a sexual relationship. 894 00:53:20,588 --> 00:53:22,718 And then the emotional and... 895 00:53:22,723 --> 00:53:25,220 friendship aspects of that relationship developed 896 00:53:25,225 --> 00:53:28,527 after the beginning of the sexual relationship. 897 00:53:29,563 --> 00:53:31,660 Why don't we start with the first incident 898 00:53:31,665 --> 00:53:33,963 of physical intimacy: November 15, 1995, 899 00:53:33,968 --> 00:53:36,031 which you've already testified some about. 900 00:53:36,036 --> 00:53:38,200 - Okay. - Can you tell me 901 00:53:38,205 --> 00:53:40,102 how the physical intimacy between you two 902 00:53:40,107 --> 00:53:41,271 began that night? 903 00:53:44,210 --> 00:53:45,710 Um... 904 00:53:46,946 --> 00:53:49,844 Well, we were, uh... 905 00:53:49,849 --> 00:53:52,647 in an office alone. 906 00:53:52,652 --> 00:53:54,719 Kissing, you know? 907 00:53:56,088 --> 00:53:59,089 And then what happened after the kissing started? 908 00:54:01,494 --> 00:54:07,029 Um, he started untucking my shirt. 909 00:54:07,734 --> 00:54:08,900 And then what? 910 00:54:12,238 --> 00:54:14,902 I'm sorry. For legal reasons, 911 00:54:14,907 --> 00:54:18,071 I need to get specifically what happened. 912 00:54:18,076 --> 00:54:19,776 Each physical interaction. 913 00:54:21,212 --> 00:54:22,712 Okay. 914 00:54:23,749 --> 00:54:26,079 Um... 915 00:54:26,084 --> 00:54:31,952 So, he took off my sweater and, you know... 916 00:54:31,957 --> 00:54:33,957 Did he touch your breasts? 917 00:54:35,527 --> 00:54:38,227 - Yes. - With your bra on or off? 918 00:54:41,867 --> 00:54:44,197 I... 919 00:54:44,202 --> 00:54:48,734 I-I... I don't remember if I unhooked my bra 920 00:54:48,739 --> 00:54:51,807 or if he, um... 921 00:54:54,879 --> 00:54:57,810 ... lifted my... 922 00:54:57,815 --> 00:55:00,413 bra up over... This is embarrassing. 923 00:55:00,418 --> 00:55:01,814 I know. 924 00:55:01,819 --> 00:55:03,151 I'm sorry. 925 00:55:08,859 --> 00:55:10,225 But he... 926 00:55:11,562 --> 00:55:14,193 He lifted the bra over your breasts. 927 00:55:14,198 --> 00:55:17,733 Um... sometimes... 928 00:55:21,305 --> 00:55:27,772 ... he would lift my-my breasts out of my bra. God. 929 00:55:27,777 --> 00:55:30,241 Did he touch your breasts with his hands? 930 00:55:30,246 --> 00:55:31,376 Yes. 931 00:55:31,381 --> 00:55:33,381 Did he touch your breasts with his mouth? 932 00:55:34,751 --> 00:55:36,951 - Yes. - Did he touch your genital area? 933 00:55:41,625 --> 00:55:44,623 Uh, I-I know this is... 934 00:55:44,628 --> 00:55:47,626 It's just, um, thinking about other people reading this... 935 00:55:47,631 --> 00:55:50,662 I understand, but I've been instructed 936 00:55:50,667 --> 00:55:52,163 to question you on these details. 937 00:55:52,168 --> 00:55:53,865 - And I have to answer? - Pursuant to the agreement 938 00:55:53,869 --> 00:55:55,333 you have with this office, yes. 939 00:55:55,338 --> 00:55:56,870 Do you understand? 940 00:55:58,206 --> 00:56:00,040 - Yes. - Okay. 941 00:56:01,444 --> 00:56:03,644 Did he touch your genitals on this date? 942 00:56:05,848 --> 00:56:06,877 Yes. 943 00:56:06,882 --> 00:56:09,350 Can you describe exactly how that happened? 944 00:56:12,287 --> 00:56:13,854 He, um... 945 00:56:23,098 --> 00:56:25,262 The president... 946 00:56:25,267 --> 00:56:28,902 uh, got a call, so we moved into a back office. 947 00:56:31,305 --> 00:56:33,205 While he was on the phone... 948 00:56:36,243 --> 00:56:39,876 ... he put his hand, uh, down my pants and he... 949 00:56:39,881 --> 00:56:41,978 stimulated that area. 950 00:56:41,983 --> 00:56:44,116 Directly on your skin or through underwear? 951 00:56:46,788 --> 00:56:49,919 It was, um, touching... 952 00:56:49,924 --> 00:56:53,089 through my underwear at first and then he 953 00:56:53,094 --> 00:56:55,357 placed his hand under my underwear. 954 00:56:55,362 --> 00:56:57,663 And did he bring you to orgasm? 955 00:57:01,402 --> 00:57:03,703 - Yes. - Okay. 956 00:57:05,338 --> 00:57:08,403 On this night, did you perform oral sex on the president? 957 00:57:08,408 --> 00:57:10,108 Yes. 958 00:57:12,045 --> 00:57:13,374 Who initiated that? 959 00:57:13,379 --> 00:57:15,146 I did. 960 00:57:16,316 --> 00:57:19,518 Did the president say anything to you during this? 961 00:57:21,254 --> 00:57:22,754 No. 962 00:57:25,391 --> 00:57:26,958 He was on the phone. 963 00:57:30,430 --> 00:57:32,330 Would you like a break? 964 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,005 Moving to March 31, 1996, 965 00:57:44,010 --> 00:57:46,040 did the president stimulate your genitals? 966 00:57:46,045 --> 00:57:47,611 Yes. 967 00:57:49,915 --> 00:57:52,149 Was that through clothing? 968 00:57:54,019 --> 00:57:55,816 Not through clothing. 969 00:57:55,821 --> 00:57:59,186 And he stimulated your genitals with his hands? 970 00:57:59,191 --> 00:58:02,392 Yes. And... 971 00:58:05,097 --> 00:58:06,429 And? 972 00:58:08,734 --> 00:58:11,101 He used, um... 973 00:58:13,071 --> 00:58:14,937 He had a cigar. 974 00:58:18,777 --> 00:58:22,108 I'm sorry, could you speak just a little louder for the tape? 975 00:58:22,113 --> 00:58:23,510 Okay, sorry. 976 00:58:23,515 --> 00:58:24,744 He had a cigar. 977 00:58:24,749 --> 00:58:26,949 Did he insert the cigar into your vagina? 978 00:58:30,321 --> 00:58:32,318 I'm sorry, I'm gonna need you to answer verbally. 979 00:58:32,323 --> 00:58:33,622 Yes. 980 00:58:35,693 --> 00:58:37,826 Whose idea, um... ? 981 00:58:39,330 --> 00:58:40,896 How did that... ? 982 00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:46,031 Um, we were talking, um, 983 00:58:46,036 --> 00:58:49,435 in the Oval Office... 984 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,205 one day and he was, 985 00:58:53,210 --> 00:58:56,008 uh, he-he was chewing on a... 986 00:58:56,013 --> 00:59:00,482 cigar and he looked at it in a sort of... 987 00:59:02,753 --> 00:59:06,384 ... naughty way and I said, 988 00:59:06,389 --> 00:59:10,626 "We can do that sometime". So we did. 989 00:59:12,462 --> 00:59:15,029 Did you understand it to be arousing? 990 00:59:16,499 --> 00:59:18,766 - Yes. - Then what happened? 991 00:59:29,111 --> 00:59:30,911 Um... 992 00:59:31,981 --> 00:59:36,184 He put it in his mouth. He said it tasted good. 993 00:59:40,021 --> 00:59:42,453 Okay, I have just one last question. 994 00:59:42,458 --> 00:59:44,123 It goes to your motivation. 995 00:59:45,861 --> 00:59:49,028 Do you for any reason want to hurt the president? 996 00:59:51,066 --> 00:59:53,564 No, that's the last thing I want. 997 00:59:53,569 --> 00:59:55,532 All right. 998 00:59:55,537 --> 00:59:59,205 Thank you. You did really well, Monica. 999 01:00:00,409 --> 01:00:03,206 That's all I have. I have to run this in. 1000 01:00:03,211 --> 01:00:05,745 Pam can help you see yourself out. 1001 01:00:07,182 --> 01:00:09,249 Is it a boy or a girl? 1002 01:00:11,986 --> 01:00:15,852 Uh... It's a boy. 1003 01:00:15,857 --> 01:00:17,790 Mazel tov. 1004 01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:21,323 For your sake, I hope this is goodbye. 1005 01:00:37,812 --> 01:00:42,077 I want the full report ready for Congress by Labor Day. 1006 01:00:42,082 --> 01:00:44,013 Judge, that's two weeks from now. 1007 01:00:44,018 --> 01:00:45,980 Any closer to the election and it will 1008 01:00:45,985 --> 01:00:48,049 appear like a political hit on the Democrats. 1009 01:00:48,054 --> 01:00:50,452 Brett, please make sure everyone has their drafts in 1010 01:00:50,457 --> 01:00:52,086 by September 4th. 1011 01:00:52,091 --> 01:00:55,123 - Got it. - Our FBI guys just sent this 302. 1012 01:00:55,128 --> 01:00:56,725 It's a new interview with Jane Doe 5. 1013 01:00:56,730 --> 01:00:59,461 Real name Juanita Broaddrick. She's changing her statement. 1014 01:00:59,466 --> 01:01:02,196 - What she's saying? - That Bill Clinton raped her. 1015 01:01:02,201 --> 01:01:05,133 This is that same woman who, back in January, 1016 01:01:05,138 --> 01:01:07,036 signed an affidavit saying nothing ever happened. 1017 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,637 Right. Now she says that was a lie. 1018 01:01:08,642 --> 01:01:11,105 Why is she lying? Was she coerced by the Clintons? 1019 01:01:11,110 --> 01:01:13,475 - No. - Was she offered something? 1020 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,377 No, no quid pro quo. She's saying she lied at first 1021 01:01:16,382 --> 01:01:18,146 because she didn't want to be involved. 1022 01:01:18,151 --> 01:01:20,414 She's had no contact with Clinton people since the '80s. 1023 01:01:20,419 --> 01:01:21,650 Well, if he didn't pressure her, 1024 01:01:21,654 --> 01:01:23,351 then it doesn't go to his criminality. 1025 01:01:23,355 --> 01:01:26,053 Except for the raping. 1026 01:01:26,058 --> 01:01:27,521 H-He raped her. 1027 01:01:27,526 --> 01:01:30,224 We can't be cluttering the report with all 1028 01:01:30,229 --> 01:01:33,026 the various sexual experiences from his past. 1029 01:01:33,031 --> 01:01:35,295 Yeah, there's only so much ink in the world, Sol. 1030 01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:40,403 I just... Judge, read the 302, read what he did. 1031 01:01:43,642 --> 01:01:46,540 Perjury and obstruction of justice. 1032 01:01:46,545 --> 01:01:48,576 Those are our grounds for impeachment, 1033 01:01:48,581 --> 01:01:51,011 not some lady who changes her mind 1034 01:01:51,016 --> 01:01:52,279 about what happened one night. 1035 01:01:52,284 --> 01:01:54,584 But... 1036 01:01:56,788 --> 01:02:00,620 Okay. So, should we not put her in the report at all? 1037 01:02:00,625 --> 01:02:02,956 It can be an appendix if you want. 1038 01:02:02,961 --> 01:02:04,494 Put her in a footnote. 1039 01:02:06,330 --> 01:02:07,463 Okay. 1040 01:03:57,447 --> 01:04:01,947 - Synced and corrected by Firefly - - www.addic7ed.com - 77305

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