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No, rotate.
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You have to rotate it.
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Jesus Christ. May I?
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Oh, thank you.
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That's Linda Tripp.
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Morning, Ron.
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Hello, Ken, it's Linda Tripp.
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Again. It was alarming enough
to be asked to write a how-to
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manual for my own job,
but it has now been nearly
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one month since I requested
the materials I need to even
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attempt to start on this,
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and-and still I've received nothing.
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At a minimum,
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I will need my correspondence books
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and all volumes of the archival
histories of JCOC 59 and 60.
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If anyone cast the slightest
glance at my cubicle,
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they would easily find
all of these on my desk there.
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Lucianne,
have you had any occasion to
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talk to Linda recently?
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I haven't talked to Linda
since, uh, uh, the day
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she wore the wire
to the Ritz-Carlton Hotel.
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Judge Starr asked her
not to be in touch.
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- With anyone?
- Right, with anyone.
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Are you surprised that only one
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out of ten Americans view her favorably?
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No, not with how the White House
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and sundry sympathetic people have
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framed the discussion
of Linda in such a negative way.
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Do you think it also
might be that people don't
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like people who tape their friends?
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Rotate.
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- Hello.
- Hi.
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This is all that there was.
Nothing from your office...
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Ugh.
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Oh, and I, uh... I checked the machine.
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This lady named Jane
from The New Yorker,
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she left, like, four messages.
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- She's writing an article about...
- Fabulous.
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There's absolutely nothing
I can do about that.
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Well, you could at least
call her back and talk to her.
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Allison, my attorney made it
very plain. It would be unwise.
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I would lose my immunity.
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Meanwhile, the Clintons get to turn me
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into Joseph Goebbels.
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And the whole world believes them.
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Mom, just come home already.
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I'm sick of staying with Dad.
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Can't blame you on that.
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Look, the reporters are gone
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from our street and I go by every day.
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Well, you shouldn't.
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It's not safe.
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But there's no one there anymore.
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I mean, come on. Mom?
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This? This is not healthy.
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You have your grand jury thing,
you are under
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so much stress and you are
just sitting here alone
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all day, reading articles
about yourself.
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It's not just my testimony.
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I'm going to make a statement.
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What do you mean?
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I've decided, once I
have my freedom back,
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I'm going to give a speech.
I'm going to address the nation.
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What are you going to say?
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I'm simply going to tell my story.
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It's not fair.
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He didn't get paraded
down to the courthouse.
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He got to testify at home.
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I'm not the president.
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Okay, no, really... how do I look?
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I'm going for "not a deranged whore".
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Okay, what do you want me to say?
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I'm about to be questioned
by 23 strangers,
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and whoever they are,
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I'm sure they already hate me.
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Are you ready?
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We committed ourselves
to a comprehensive strategy
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to lower the crime rate and make
America a safer place to live.
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- I gave him that tie.
- What?
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... has shown remarkable results.
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It's Zegna.
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I bought it at the Neiman's
in Mazza Gallerie.
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Does he know that she
is testifying today?
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I'm sure.
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Do you think he's trying
to send her a message?
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I mean, is that even legal?
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- Should I tell someone about that?
- Mom.
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We should resolve to do better.
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It's fine. I'm not going
to let it mess me up.
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She's here,
she's here! She's in that car!
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- Monica!
- Hey, Monica!
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I can save you, Monica!
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You are going to hell!
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Monica, how are you feeling?
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Monica, are you in love
with the president?
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Feel ready?
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I'm just excited to see
the inside of a courtroom.
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You know, this is the first time
Starr's given me anything
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to do beyond secretarial work.
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He is old-fashioned.
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And look, Monica and I are familiar,
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but Starr does have a point.
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It's better that a woman asks
some of these questions.
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- She's here.
- Okay.
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You can bring in the jury.
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- Are they already in there?
- Yes, they've just been seated.
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We'll be right out here,
anytime you need.
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Good morning.
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You can have a seat right there.
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Can you raise your right hand?
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Oh, sure, yes.
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Do you, Monica S. Lewinsky,
swear to tell the truth,
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the whole truth and nothing but
the truth, so help you God?
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I do.
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Now, uh, Ms. Lewinsky,
what we're going to do
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is we're going to start off
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talking about your relationship
with the president.
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Do I not get to learn people's names?
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Uh, the answer to that is no.
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Um, I know it seems kind of...
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Kind of awkward.
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It's important that the record
have no identifications.
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Oh, okay.
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Now, as we have discussed,
our office feels you'll be more
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comfortable getting certain
questions from Ms. Immergut,
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so I'm going to turn it over to her now.
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Ms. Lewinsky,
can you tell the grand jury:
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when did your relationship
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with the president of the
United States start?
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November 15, 1995.
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Um, it was during the shutdown
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when I was assigned to the West Wing.
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Can you tell the grand jury
what happened?
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Around... uh, around 8:00 in the evening
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I was headed into
Mr. Stephanopoulos's office.
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The president... was in there.
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He invited me into
the next room and then...
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we kissed.
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Did anything else
happen between you?
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Um...
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And we were more...
physically intimate after that.
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And what do you mean by that?
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On that occasion, did you
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perform oral sex on the president?
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God, this is embarrassing.
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I assure you
we won't be dwelling on this.
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Yes, I did.
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Jesus.
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Was there any other
physical intimacy performed?
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Everything up to oral sex.
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Now, to avoid you having
to go into each subsequent
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act of physical intimacy,
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we'll introduce what we
have marked as Exhibit ML-7.
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Did you provide
all the information listed
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on this chart?
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Yes, I did.
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This details each of
your sexual encounters
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with President Clinton.
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To the best of your knowledge,
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is it all accurate?
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Yes. I want to hide
under this table, but yes.
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Ms. Lewinsky, did your
relationship with the president
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have a... non-sexual component?
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- Yes, it did.
- Could you describe that
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for the grand jury?
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Sure, um...
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It was more than just...
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We enjoyed being with each other.
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He'd... we would tell jokes,
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talk about our childhoods,
current events.
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Sometimes we'd just...
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Um, we'd just be affectionate.
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He'd push my hair out of my face.
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I think back on it and...
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he always made me smile
when I was with him.
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It was a lot of, uh...
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He was sunshine.
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- We okay for a break?
- Uh, yeah, ten minutes?
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Ten minutes, everyone.
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Moving through your affidavit
here, let me ask you a question.
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Paragraph eight begins,
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"I have never had a sexual relationship
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with the president".
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Is that true?
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- No.
- Okay,
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so the next logical follow-up is:
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why were you willing to
say something false
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under penalty of perjury?
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Uh, I did not think my...
my private relationship
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was anyone's business.
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No one asked me to lie...
not the president, not anyone.
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I made that decision. By myself.
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And I wish I hadn't, to put it mildly.
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Thank you.
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Now, the grand jury has
some questions for you.
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- Okay.
- Did you and the president
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ever talk about denying the relationship
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if anyone asked about it?
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I offered that on-on my own.
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I always told him I would deny it.
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Why did you keep
that stained black dress?
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- It's a blue dress. - Blue.
- Blue.
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Answer the question, please.
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Well, I have a lot of clothes,
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and so I don't usually dry-clean things
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until I'm going to wear them again.
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Like, I don't know how you guys are,
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but you have clothes to dry-clean
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and you kind of keep them
in your closet until you
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dry-clean them all together
when you need them.
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And now I feel like I'm talking about
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dry-cleaning too much and
the process around dry-cleaning.
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Anyway, with that dress...
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I was going to wear it again
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and when I told Linda that,
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she told me I looked heavy in it.
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Um, so I-I never
ended up wearing it again.
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Ergo I never cleaned it.
Does that answer your question?
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Ms. Lewinsky, did your mother
ever discourage
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your relationship with the president?
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Oh, yes.
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Well, then, what kept it going?
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I fell in love.
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I have a question.
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You said you felt you were in
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a real relationship.
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A real connection.
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- Yes.
- With this married man.
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- Yes.
- It's been in the papers
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you had a relationship before.
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Similar to this, a married man.
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The way Kate and Andy Bleiler
made it seem on TV,
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it's-it's not entirely accurate.
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I-If that's the part that you're, um...
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The only part I know is that
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he was a married man and had a family.
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Yes.
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Like I know about the president.
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We're asked to trust
your version of events,
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but it seems you arrived
in D.C. and sought out
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a-an affair based on deception and lies.
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Did you not believe that this was wrong?
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My intention...
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... when I came to Washington
was to start over.
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I did not want to have another affair
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with a married man
because it was horrible.
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And I don't know why I did it again.
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I just know that I did it again.
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And I know a lot of...
a lot of people think that
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that's wrong, and so do I.
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I know there's a lot of work
I need to do on myself.
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I just feel I had to ask
the question because
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a lot of us are confused.
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- I'm not.
- No need to be rude.
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Oh, it's okay.
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In a way, I really, I really appreciate
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you asking me where I'm coming from,
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'cause most people just assume
when it comes to me, so...
260
00:16:32,828 --> 00:16:36,360
Um, I really respect your question
261
00:16:36,365 --> 00:16:38,298
and I-I appreciate what you're saying.
262
00:16:39,401 --> 00:16:40,663
Whatever your name is.
263
00:16:40,668 --> 00:16:42,432
Oh, Ms. Lewinsky...
264
00:16:42,437 --> 00:16:45,235
Can you, can you guys call me Monica?
265
00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,936
Are-are they allowed to call me Monica?
266
00:16:46,941 --> 00:16:48,441
If you say so.
267
00:16:50,612 --> 00:16:51,874
Sure.
268
00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:54,877
I'm just 25. Please.
269
00:16:54,882 --> 00:16:58,782
But you'll be Ms. Lewinsky
whether you're 25 or 28 or...
270
00:16:58,787 --> 00:17:01,818
Not when I get married.
271
00:17:02,323 --> 00:17:06,325
Monica, do you still love the president?
272
00:17:12,333 --> 00:17:15,464
The day they held me at the Ritz,
273
00:17:15,469 --> 00:17:19,268
they wanted me to turn on him.
274
00:17:19,273 --> 00:17:21,370
I said no.
275
00:17:21,375 --> 00:17:24,406
I-I did not want to do anything
to let him get hurt.
276
00:17:24,411 --> 00:17:26,308
And then when this all came out,
277
00:17:26,313 --> 00:17:28,543
the-the people that worked for him,
278
00:17:28,548 --> 00:17:30,479
they trashed me.
279
00:17:30,484 --> 00:17:32,013
They claim that they haven't,
280
00:17:32,018 --> 00:17:35,284
but they call me a stalker.
They called me a liar.
281
00:17:35,289 --> 00:17:39,257
They say I'm inappropriate.
I mean, you all know.
282
00:17:40,527 --> 00:17:42,794
And then he makes this speech.
283
00:17:44,298 --> 00:17:46,561
And he says...
284
00:17:46,566 --> 00:17:48,796
He makes it seem like...
285
00:17:48,801 --> 00:17:51,198
all that he cares about is
how unfair all of this
286
00:17:51,203 --> 00:17:53,270
- has been to him.
- Mm.
287
00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:57,941
So to... sorry...
to answer your question, um...
288
00:18:00,913 --> 00:18:02,943
... it turns out he's not
who I thought he was.
289
00:18:02,948 --> 00:18:05,779
Monica, about that day
you just mentioned
290
00:18:05,784 --> 00:18:07,548
when you were approached by Mr. Emmick
291
00:18:07,553 --> 00:18:10,318
and the OIC, can you tell us
a little bit about that?
292
00:18:10,323 --> 00:18:11,352
Oh, um...
293
00:18:11,357 --> 00:18:14,922
If I could ask, uh, what areas are you
294
00:18:14,927 --> 00:18:16,090
wanting to get into?
295
00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:19,694
Because we're already
tight for time and, uh,
296
00:18:19,699 --> 00:18:21,295
well, you know, there were...
297
00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:23,330
many hours of activity.
298
00:18:23,335 --> 00:18:24,934
Just want to know about that day.
299
00:18:26,371 --> 00:18:29,369
Okay, well, how about we
table that for now...
300
00:18:29,374 --> 00:18:30,819
No, I want to hear about that.
301
00:18:30,824 --> 00:18:32,539
We should be able
to hear about that day.
302
00:18:32,544 --> 00:18:34,106
Let her talk. Why not?
303
00:18:34,111 --> 00:18:36,443
Let her talk.
304
00:18:36,448 --> 00:18:38,748
All right, go ahead.
305
00:18:40,084 --> 00:18:42,048
So, you were approached
in the food court
306
00:18:42,053 --> 00:18:44,317
at Pentagon City by two FBI agents.
307
00:18:44,322 --> 00:18:46,720
Linda Tripp had lied
to get you there. Is that right?
308
00:18:46,725 --> 00:18:48,055
Uh, yes.
309
00:18:48,060 --> 00:18:51,090
And then they proceeded
to take you up to a hotel room.
310
00:18:51,095 --> 00:18:52,995
Why didn't you ask for your lawyer?
311
00:18:54,399 --> 00:18:55,698
I did.
312
00:18:57,368 --> 00:18:59,865
But they told me
I was in trouble and that
313
00:18:59,870 --> 00:19:02,701
I wouldn't be able to help
myself with my attorney present,
314
00:19:02,706 --> 00:19:04,737
so I just did what they said.
315
00:19:04,742 --> 00:19:07,840
It was the FBI and I was really scared.
316
00:19:07,845 --> 00:19:09,745
What happened when you got up there?
317
00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:20,021
S-Sorry.
318
00:19:21,091 --> 00:19:24,426
Would it be okay...
uh, can you step out?
319
00:19:26,864 --> 00:19:29,895
Karin can take over from here, right?
320
00:19:29,900 --> 00:19:32,096
Karin can take over.
321
00:19:32,101 --> 00:19:33,601
Karin can stay.
322
00:19:49,652 --> 00:19:51,452
Thank you.
323
00:19:59,462 --> 00:20:03,160
They said if I called my lawyer,
I wouldn't be offered immunity.
324
00:20:03,165 --> 00:20:05,698
Did you feel threatened by that?
325
00:20:06,601 --> 00:20:08,966
Did they offer you a chance
to call another attorney?
326
00:20:08,971 --> 00:20:10,767
They suggested one.
327
00:20:10,772 --> 00:20:12,736
Did you take them up on that?
328
00:20:12,741 --> 00:20:14,838
- No.
- Why not?
329
00:20:14,843 --> 00:20:17,774
- Because I didn't trust them.
- Hmm.
330
00:20:17,779 --> 00:20:20,711
It sounds as though they
were actively discouraging you
331
00:20:20,716 --> 00:20:22,179
from talking to an attorney.
332
00:20:22,184 --> 00:20:24,114
Well, from talking to Frank Carter.
333
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,687
Yes, Frank Carter, my only attorney.
334
00:20:28,757 --> 00:20:30,523
Are we due for a ten-minute break?
335
00:20:31,526 --> 00:20:32,823
No, ma'am.
336
00:20:44,839 --> 00:20:47,803
It lasted about 12 hours in total.
337
00:20:47,808 --> 00:20:50,739
My God. Wow.
338
00:20:50,744 --> 00:20:53,742
And they told me over
and over that I was free
339
00:20:53,747 --> 00:20:55,448
to leave, but I didn't.
340
00:20:58,086 --> 00:21:00,216
I didn't understand
because they also said
341
00:21:00,221 --> 00:21:02,552
they were prepared
to indict me and I could
342
00:21:02,557 --> 00:21:05,921
spend up to 28 years in prison
and that they would
343
00:21:05,926 --> 00:21:09,993
prosecute my mother if I didn't
help them, you know? So...
344
00:21:09,998 --> 00:21:13,528
I was, uh, confused and, uh...
345
00:21:13,533 --> 00:21:15,099
Were you angry?
346
00:21:17,971 --> 00:21:20,869
Yes, mostly at myself.
347
00:21:20,874 --> 00:21:22,940
For ending up in this situation.
348
00:21:25,712 --> 00:21:28,676
And for putting the president at risk.
349
00:21:28,681 --> 00:21:29,947
And...
350
00:21:32,085 --> 00:21:36,084
And-and for, uh,
doing this to my family.
351
00:21:36,089 --> 00:21:39,254
Monica, they set you in a trap.
352
00:21:39,259 --> 00:21:40,956
- Mm-hmm.
- It's what they do.
353
00:21:40,961 --> 00:21:43,691
Monica, is there anything else
you'd like to add
354
00:21:43,696 --> 00:21:45,060
to your testimony?
355
00:21:45,065 --> 00:21:47,097
We want to give you
the fullest opportunity.
356
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,498
Um...
357
00:21:50,503 --> 00:21:52,901
Uh...
358
00:21:54,774 --> 00:21:59,541
I guess I want to say
that no one asked me to lie.
359
00:21:59,546 --> 00:22:02,179
And I was never promised
a job for my silence.
360
00:22:03,716 --> 00:22:05,082
Mostly I'm sorry.
361
00:22:06,753 --> 00:22:08,986
I'm really sorry for
everything that happened.
362
00:22:13,593 --> 00:22:16,090
And I hate Linda Tripp.
363
00:22:16,095 --> 00:22:17,892
I know that's right.
364
00:22:17,897 --> 00:22:20,126
Forget her.
365
00:22:20,131 --> 00:22:23,900
- What goes around comes around.
- It does.
366
00:22:32,412 --> 00:22:35,107
I am going to go in and remove some
367
00:22:35,112 --> 00:22:37,822
extra cartilage and bone right here.
368
00:22:37,827 --> 00:22:40,057
Then I'm going to go ahead
and pull the skin
369
00:22:40,062 --> 00:22:42,593
off of the issue so I can
chisel that bump down.
370
00:22:42,598 --> 00:22:45,830
Then we fracture it
so that we can close the roof,
371
00:22:45,835 --> 00:22:47,865
much the same way you would on a house.
372
00:22:47,870 --> 00:22:48,999
Does that make sense?
373
00:22:49,004 --> 00:22:50,802
Um...
374
00:22:50,807 --> 00:22:52,169
Yeah.
375
00:22:52,174 --> 00:22:54,705
Dr. Loeb does wonderful work.
376
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:56,841
Oh, thanks. Okay, I'm going to go ahead
377
00:22:56,846 --> 00:22:59,109
and step out and do my final prep.
378
00:22:59,114 --> 00:23:01,045
I'll see you in there.
379
00:23:01,050 --> 00:23:02,850
Okay.
380
00:23:06,555 --> 00:23:09,753
- Where's Steve?
- Oh, he didn't want to come.
381
00:23:09,758 --> 00:23:13,790
Is he still in a funk
about losing his job?
382
00:23:13,795 --> 00:23:15,726
Gosh, yes, he's...
383
00:23:15,731 --> 00:23:19,396
blaming my case and says
the airline fired him because of
384
00:23:19,401 --> 00:23:21,866
pressure from Clinton, but, Susie,
385
00:23:21,871 --> 00:23:25,235
he wouldn't work the hours
that they wanted him to.
386
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,670
I think that's all that it is.
387
00:23:26,675 --> 00:23:28,141
Well, did you tell him that?
388
00:23:29,711 --> 00:23:31,842
He won't listen to me.
389
00:23:34,582 --> 00:23:36,946
Hey. You nervous?
390
00:23:36,951 --> 00:23:39,949
I'm just glad that
people'll stop making fun
391
00:23:39,954 --> 00:23:41,454
of my big ol' awful nose.
392
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,791
I'm told there is a Russian
children's verse that says,
393
00:25:31,796 --> 00:25:35,195
"What do we plant
when we plant a new wood?
394
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:39,199
Boats in which waves
can safely be withstood".
395
00:25:39,204 --> 00:25:42,869
In both our nations,
music education is that
396
00:25:42,874 --> 00:25:45,171
sturdy boat that lifts us up,
397
00:25:45,176 --> 00:25:49,041
that carries our unique cultural
treasures into the future.
398
00:25:49,046 --> 00:25:52,812
And now, it is my honor to
introduce to you Bill Clinton,
399
00:25:52,817 --> 00:25:56,051
president of the United States.
400
00:26:08,833 --> 00:26:11,630
Mr. President, Mr. Bowles
said you wanted this list...
401
00:26:11,635 --> 00:26:14,036
I know what it is. Thanks.
402
00:26:22,278 --> 00:26:24,875
Betty, would you ask
the first lady to come see me?
403
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,580
Right away, sir.
404
00:26:49,906 --> 00:26:51,269
You wanted to see me?
405
00:26:51,274 --> 00:26:53,808
I wanted to say something.
406
00:27:04,419 --> 00:27:07,888
25 years, you're the one
opinion I give a shit about.
407
00:27:09,191 --> 00:27:13,390
Most men of our age, they...
they find their wives so dull
408
00:27:13,395 --> 00:27:16,159
they cringe when she talks at dinner.
409
00:27:16,164 --> 00:27:18,428
I pity those men.
410
00:27:18,433 --> 00:27:20,901
They don't have what I do.
411
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,939
I gave in to a disgusting impulse.
412
00:27:28,944 --> 00:27:31,574
Because I didn't know
how to walk down the hall
413
00:27:31,579 --> 00:27:34,176
and say to my best friend
414
00:27:34,181 --> 00:27:36,445
that this job is lonely
415
00:27:36,450 --> 00:27:38,484
and I'm worn to the bone...
416
00:27:39,921 --> 00:27:42,221
... and I'm dead inside half the time.
417
00:27:43,958 --> 00:27:45,722
There's been hell raining down on us
418
00:27:45,727 --> 00:27:48,390
from the day we walked into this place.
419
00:27:48,395 --> 00:27:50,860
You know, every move
we make... the right,
420
00:27:50,865 --> 00:27:53,096
the press, they seize,
attack and drag us
421
00:27:53,101 --> 00:27:55,598
through the streets over nothing.
422
00:27:55,603 --> 00:27:59,335
And I know it's stupid, but when
Newt shuts down the government,
423
00:27:59,340 --> 00:28:01,938
and Starr has slithered into our lives
424
00:28:01,943 --> 00:28:04,740
to look for malfeasance
in every line of every receipt
425
00:28:04,745 --> 00:28:06,942
of every piddly thing we've ever bought,
426
00:28:06,947 --> 00:28:09,511
I thought I had to be strong for us.
427
00:28:09,516 --> 00:28:12,050
And instead, I fucked it all up.
428
00:28:21,461 --> 00:28:23,992
When it first came out,
I was so ashamed I wanted to
429
00:28:23,997 --> 00:28:25,997
crawl in a hole and disappear.
430
00:28:28,935 --> 00:28:31,502
I couldn't bear what I'd done
to you and Chelsea.
431
00:28:33,306 --> 00:28:36,374
I couldn't face telling you,
I just couldn't.
432
00:28:38,510 --> 00:28:41,178
So I made it worse and I lied.
433
00:28:49,889 --> 00:28:54,024
Everything good in my life
comes out of us together.
434
00:28:57,963 --> 00:29:00,397
I don't know who I am without you.
435
00:29:01,633 --> 00:29:04,665
I know you said you
didn't care why it happened.
436
00:29:04,670 --> 00:29:07,071
But I wanted you to know.
437
00:29:13,044 --> 00:29:14,340
Is that all?
438
00:29:14,345 --> 00:29:16,109
No.
439
00:29:16,114 --> 00:29:17,479
I love you.
440
00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:20,316
That's all.
441
00:29:38,036 --> 00:29:40,233
- Mom?
- Busy.
442
00:29:40,238 --> 00:29:41,567
There's all this stuff in here.
443
00:29:41,572 --> 00:29:43,003
I didn't know that you were arrested.
444
00:29:43,007 --> 00:29:44,470
It was a teen prank.
445
00:29:44,475 --> 00:29:46,805
Some boys put things in
my purse as a joke.
446
00:29:46,810 --> 00:29:48,406
Okay, but this part about your dad...
447
00:29:48,411 --> 00:29:50,476
I mean, you don't talk about him
my entire life and I have
448
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,148
no idea why until someone
writes an article about it.
449
00:30:05,428 --> 00:30:07,295
Oh, my God.
450
00:30:13,237 --> 00:30:15,203
Jesus Christ.
451
00:30:18,175 --> 00:30:20,237
- Unbelievable.
- What?
452
00:30:20,242 --> 00:30:22,240
None of this is what I asked for.
453
00:30:22,245 --> 00:30:24,843
They know what I need
to do my job and they...
454
00:30:24,848 --> 00:30:28,182
they send me a completely
useless pile of paper.
455
00:30:29,451 --> 00:30:31,418
And look at the shape it's in.
456
00:30:38,694 --> 00:30:40,258
This is a message.
457
00:30:40,263 --> 00:30:43,130
Could just be one
of the lazier secretaries.
458
00:30:45,367 --> 00:30:46,633
Bring my purse.
459
00:30:54,376 --> 00:30:57,774
- Oh, my God.
- Linda,
460
00:30:57,779 --> 00:30:59,076
I didn't know you were coming in.
461
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,681
I need to see Ken.
462
00:31:09,325 --> 00:31:11,789
- Excuse me.
- I work here.
463
00:31:11,794 --> 00:31:13,259
Uh...
464
00:31:15,364 --> 00:31:18,362
No, I have to go.
Okay, it's just... Leave us.
465
00:31:18,367 --> 00:31:20,664
Linda, you know you cannot just...
466
00:31:20,669 --> 00:31:22,634
Did you oversee and
approve this shipment?
467
00:31:22,638 --> 00:31:24,667
- What?
- It's a simple question.
468
00:31:24,672 --> 00:31:27,570
Did you oversee
and approve this shipment?
469
00:31:27,575 --> 00:31:30,173
- I can't say that I have any...
- Because I asked for the basic materials
470
00:31:30,177 --> 00:31:32,475
I need to do my job and what I got
471
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,445
was random printed email traffic.
472
00:31:35,450 --> 00:31:39,449
Some JCOC participant list
thrown violently into a box.
473
00:31:39,454 --> 00:31:42,251
- Linda.
- This is chilling.
474
00:31:42,256 --> 00:31:45,822
This is veiled hostility
from my colleagues,
475
00:31:45,827 --> 00:31:47,589
simply because I'm a cooperating witness
476
00:31:47,594 --> 00:31:48,725
in a federal investigation.
477
00:31:48,730 --> 00:31:50,593
I'm sure it was just an honest mistake.
478
00:31:50,598 --> 00:31:53,295
- We are past that, Ken.
- Listen.
479
00:31:53,300 --> 00:31:55,297
Just write down exactly what you need
480
00:31:55,302 --> 00:31:57,633
- and then we...
- What I need
481
00:31:57,638 --> 00:32:00,836
is to come here like normal
and do my work.
482
00:32:00,841 --> 00:32:03,005
And I do not doubt that
you'll be able to do that soon,
483
00:32:03,010 --> 00:32:04,275
and that things will settle down,
484
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:06,509
but DOD just opened this investigation
485
00:32:06,514 --> 00:32:07,946
- and until we...
- What?
486
00:32:09,182 --> 00:32:10,348
What investigation?
487
00:32:14,354 --> 00:32:16,117
They'll be contacting you.
488
00:32:16,122 --> 00:32:17,453
When you were hired,
489
00:32:17,458 --> 00:32:21,990
you affirmed on your DD 398 that
you had never been arrested.
490
00:32:21,995 --> 00:32:23,393
Now, The New Yorker has come out...
491
00:32:23,397 --> 00:32:24,993
It was a teen prank!
492
00:32:24,998 --> 00:32:26,998
- Linda...
- On me!
493
00:32:29,102 --> 00:32:30,932
The charges were dropped.
494
00:32:30,937 --> 00:32:34,202
Linda, you cannot lie
to the Department of Defense
495
00:32:34,207 --> 00:32:35,836
on a security clearance form.
496
00:32:35,841 --> 00:32:38,275
That is a serious crime.
497
00:32:39,344 --> 00:32:40,778
I see.
498
00:32:42,815 --> 00:32:44,214
I see now.
499
00:32:45,217 --> 00:32:46,447
You see what?
500
00:32:46,452 --> 00:32:49,283
They're really coming after me.
501
00:32:49,288 --> 00:32:51,388
Okay, well...
502
00:33:06,638 --> 00:33:09,135
Good afternoon, ma'am.
I'm Special Agent Irons
503
00:33:09,140 --> 00:33:10,837
with the Federal Bureau
of Investigation.
504
00:33:10,842 --> 00:33:12,639
This is Special Agent Fallon.
505
00:33:12,644 --> 00:33:15,077
Do you have
a moment to speak with us?
506
00:33:19,617 --> 00:33:21,180
Thank you, ma'am.
507
00:33:21,185 --> 00:33:22,782
We're detailed with the Office
508
00:33:22,787 --> 00:33:24,884
of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr.
509
00:33:24,889 --> 00:33:26,786
Perhaps you've seen
Judge Starr on the news.
510
00:33:26,791 --> 00:33:29,388
Well, he's finishing up
his investigation,
511
00:33:29,393 --> 00:33:31,324
preparing to make a report to Congress.
512
00:33:31,329 --> 00:33:33,359
We're just here following up
on some threads.
513
00:33:33,364 --> 00:33:35,928
Ma'am, as you may know,
the president and others
514
00:33:35,933 --> 00:33:38,530
are in legal peril because
of false affidavits
515
00:33:38,535 --> 00:33:40,433
filed in the Paula Jones lawsuit.
516
00:33:40,438 --> 00:33:43,168
We're just dotting our I's,
Ms. Broaddrick. You understand.
517
00:33:43,173 --> 00:33:46,238
Now, here is
your Jones affidavit.
518
00:33:46,243 --> 00:33:48,307
You swore this a few months back.
519
00:33:48,312 --> 00:33:50,376
Here, you state that
President Bill Clinton
520
00:33:50,381 --> 00:33:53,479
never made any unwanted
sexual advances toward you.
521
00:33:53,484 --> 00:33:57,215
Ma'am, were you being truthful
when you signed your name
522
00:33:57,220 --> 00:33:58,687
to this statement?
523
00:34:12,512 --> 00:34:13,874
I don't...
524
00:34:13,879 --> 00:34:15,480
I don't get it.
525
00:34:16,749 --> 00:34:18,916
Okay. Thank you. Bye.
526
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,882
How was your audition?
527
00:34:21,887 --> 00:34:23,784
It sucked.
528
00:34:23,789 --> 00:34:28,126
- Who was that?
- The lawyers. They said...
529
00:34:29,462 --> 00:34:31,359
... the judge did a summary judgment.
530
00:34:31,364 --> 00:34:33,828
Mm. What is that?
531
00:34:33,833 --> 00:34:36,230
It's... it's bad.
532
00:34:36,235 --> 00:34:39,737
It means that she threw out the case.
533
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,604
The Supreme Court said you had a case.
534
00:34:42,609 --> 00:34:45,773
But now the judge says I don't, so I...
535
00:34:45,778 --> 00:34:47,574
I guess it's over.
536
00:34:47,579 --> 00:34:51,178
What? What-what do we get?
How much money we get?
537
00:34:51,183 --> 00:34:53,547
Well, that's what I'm saying. Um...
538
00:34:53,552 --> 00:34:55,916
It's nothing. We get nothing.
539
00:34:55,921 --> 00:34:57,685
- The fuck?!
- I know.
540
00:34:57,690 --> 00:34:59,987
- I know, I need to call Susie.
- Oh, yeah, great idea.
541
00:34:59,992 --> 00:35:02,162
Smart. She always makes things better.
542
00:35:02,167 --> 00:35:04,194
- Steve, don't.
- No, no, we need to go back
543
00:35:04,199 --> 00:35:05,527
and we need to take Clinton's deal.
544
00:35:05,531 --> 00:35:06,727
I wanted that money.
545
00:35:06,732 --> 00:35:10,864
What? No, no, but you and Susie
546
00:35:10,869 --> 00:35:13,033
told me that I shouldn't take it, so...
547
00:35:13,038 --> 00:35:15,836
I don't wanna hear your fucking voice.
548
00:35:15,841 --> 00:35:18,638
Wait, but that is not fair
because I... gosh,
549
00:35:18,643 --> 00:35:21,307
I only ever started doing this
'cause you wanted me to.
550
00:35:21,312 --> 00:35:24,210
I-I did... I did all this for you.
551
00:35:24,215 --> 00:35:27,080
You sound pretty stupid
right now with your face
552
00:35:27,085 --> 00:35:29,415
all broken from a nose job.
553
00:35:29,420 --> 00:35:31,951
Because I got a bad nose,
554
00:35:31,956 --> 00:35:34,087
which I didn't even know I had
555
00:35:34,092 --> 00:35:36,690
until you made me do this and be on TV
556
00:35:36,695 --> 00:35:40,226
and people laughed at me, but...
557
00:35:40,231 --> 00:35:42,796
but I did it, like I always
do what you say.
558
00:35:42,801 --> 00:35:44,731
You think I liked moving to California,
559
00:35:44,736 --> 00:35:46,232
where I've never seen so many people
560
00:35:46,237 --> 00:35:47,701
who smile while they hate you
561
00:35:47,706 --> 00:35:49,669
and it makes my skin fucking crawl
562
00:35:49,674 --> 00:35:51,971
and it's sunny all day and it's...
563
00:35:51,976 --> 00:35:53,739
You think it'll be better
if we move home,
564
00:35:53,744 --> 00:35:56,509
where everyone knows exactly
who you are and what you did?
565
00:35:56,514 --> 00:35:58,314
What do you mean, "what I did"?
566
00:36:01,785 --> 00:36:03,385
What do you mean?
567
00:36:05,656 --> 00:36:09,091
Say it. Say it, Steve.
568
00:36:12,496 --> 00:36:14,360
You think I did it.
569
00:36:14,365 --> 00:36:17,299
You think I went up there
and I gave him a blow job.
570
00:36:20,904 --> 00:36:23,505
Yeah, okay, okay.
571
00:36:24,775 --> 00:36:28,273
I can take this from Jay Leno
572
00:36:28,278 --> 00:36:32,744
and people laughing at me
at Vons, but...
573
00:36:32,749 --> 00:36:34,679
from you?
574
00:36:34,684 --> 00:36:36,681
You're supposed to believe me!
575
00:36:36,686 --> 00:36:40,852
We are fighting to show people
that he did me wrong!
576
00:36:40,857 --> 00:36:43,555
And...
577
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,557
And in reality, all-all this is...
578
00:36:45,562 --> 00:36:48,392
all the press conferences
and all the magazines
579
00:36:48,397 --> 00:36:50,527
and-and the TV shows
580
00:36:50,532 --> 00:36:53,298
and the lawyers and more lawyers
and more lawyers...
581
00:36:53,303 --> 00:36:56,901
it's just me trying to get you
to believe me!
582
00:36:56,906 --> 00:37:02,306
Which we both know you
never did, so you know what?
583
00:37:02,311 --> 00:37:05,376
If you want to say I'm stupid,
well, fuck you!
584
00:37:05,381 --> 00:37:07,912
But most of all,
if I'm stupid on one thing,
585
00:37:07,917 --> 00:37:09,780
it was believing that you were any more
586
00:37:09,785 --> 00:37:13,153
than a chickenshit asshole
who cared about me at all!
587
00:37:24,967 --> 00:37:27,634
Oh, you think
I'm gonna ask you to stay?!
588
00:37:35,110 --> 00:37:37,608
Okay, it's pretty simple.
589
00:37:37,613 --> 00:37:40,276
You listen to all of
these tapes. After each one,
590
00:37:40,281 --> 00:37:42,513
you sign the tape, as well as sign
591
00:37:42,518 --> 00:37:43,880
and date those documents,
592
00:37:43,885 --> 00:37:47,083
confirming that the voices
are you and Linda Tripp.
593
00:37:47,088 --> 00:37:48,519
I have to listen to all of these?
594
00:37:48,524 --> 00:37:50,354
They're all evidence.
595
00:37:50,359 --> 00:37:52,489
Karin here will sit in with you.
596
00:37:52,494 --> 00:37:54,692
I would, but I gotta get
to the courthouse.
597
00:37:54,697 --> 00:37:56,896
What's happening at the courthouse?
598
00:38:01,069 --> 00:38:03,734
Do you, Linda R. Tripp,
swear to tell the truth,
599
00:38:03,739 --> 00:38:06,537
the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth, so help you God?
600
00:38:06,542 --> 00:38:07,874
I do.
601
00:38:12,046 --> 00:38:13,846
You ready?
602
00:38:17,051 --> 00:38:19,585
- Hi.
- Hi.
603
00:38:20,855 --> 00:38:21,954
How are you?
604
00:38:23,691 --> 00:38:27,622
Uh, now, with
Mr. Wisenberg's assistance,
605
00:38:27,627 --> 00:38:28,958
I'd like to read to you
606
00:38:28,963 --> 00:38:32,598
what the grand jury has
come to know as Tape 11.
607
00:38:34,068 --> 00:38:36,632
You have a, uh, transcript there.
608
00:38:36,637 --> 00:38:38,404
Okay.
609
00:38:40,174 --> 00:38:42,571
"Linda, I got the creep a tie.
610
00:38:42,576 --> 00:38:44,706
It was 20 bucks at Marshalls".
611
00:38:44,711 --> 00:38:46,708
"Oh, good, who makes it?"
612
00:38:46,713 --> 00:38:49,477
"Calvin Klein. It's gorgeous, Linda".
613
00:38:49,482 --> 00:38:51,479
"Yeah, Marshalls generally,
614
00:38:51,484 --> 00:38:53,482
every now and then, you can hit".
615
00:38:53,487 --> 00:38:56,185
"It's really different from
all the other ones I've given him.
616
00:38:56,189 --> 00:38:57,986
I'm putting a note with it.
617
00:38:57,991 --> 00:38:59,755
I wrote such a funny card to him".
618
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,189
Linda Tripp laughs.
619
00:39:01,194 --> 00:39:02,925
I said, "This tie will
620
00:39:02,929 --> 00:39:04,860
look good with either
a taupe or navy suit
621
00:39:04,865 --> 00:39:06,528
and a white or a light blue shirt.
622
00:39:06,533 --> 00:39:08,830
- That is, if you like it".
- Mm-hmm.
623
00:39:08,835 --> 00:39:10,766
"And then do you know what I wrote?
624
00:39:10,771 --> 00:39:14,703
I said, 'And just think,
now you can pay homage to me
625
00:39:14,708 --> 00:39:18,006
if you want by having
a work week in which you
626
00:39:18,011 --> 00:39:19,774
wear one of my ties every day.'"
627
00:39:19,779 --> 00:39:21,042
Linda Tripp laughs.
628
00:39:21,047 --> 00:39:23,144
Ms. Lewinsky laughs.
629
00:39:23,149 --> 00:39:25,047
'Cause this is the fifth one, right?
630
00:39:25,051 --> 00:39:27,415
You have to give him one
for the weekend days, too.
631
00:39:27,420 --> 00:39:30,218
"That's what I want. That's my fantasy.
632
00:39:30,223 --> 00:39:33,891
To have the creep wear
one of my ties every day".
633
00:39:34,860 --> 00:39:38,893
Um, Ms. Tripp, who was the creep?
634
00:39:42,701 --> 00:39:45,099
The president of the United States.
635
00:39:45,104 --> 00:39:48,436
Was this typical
of the sort of subject
636
00:39:48,441 --> 00:39:50,537
you and Monica Lewinsky would discuss?
637
00:39:50,542 --> 00:39:53,673
Yes, we almost never
talked about anything
638
00:39:53,678 --> 00:39:55,676
aside from the president.
639
00:39:55,681 --> 00:39:58,581
She shared a lot of intimate
details with you, did she not?
640
00:40:00,718 --> 00:40:02,082
She did.
641
00:40:02,087 --> 00:40:03,417
I was upset before,
642
00:40:03,421 --> 00:40:05,152
but not like I am now.
643
00:40:05,157 --> 00:40:06,753
Oh, man.
644
00:40:06,758 --> 00:40:08,721
It's too much for one person.
645
00:40:08,726 --> 00:40:11,124
Oh, it is too
much for one person.
646
00:40:11,129 --> 00:40:12,292
Yes, it is.
647
00:40:12,297 --> 00:40:15,362
Moving into November 1997.
648
00:40:15,367 --> 00:40:19,099
Is it fair to say that
Ms. Lewinsky was increasingly
649
00:40:19,104 --> 00:40:21,601
distraught on her calls with you?
650
00:40:21,606 --> 00:40:25,271
Yes, she was obsessed with
the president's lack of contact.
651
00:40:25,276 --> 00:40:29,341
And what typically would happen
when she tried to make contact?
652
00:40:29,346 --> 00:40:32,278
She would call Betty Currie
and then call me
653
00:40:32,283 --> 00:40:33,745
to tell me she called Betty.
654
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:35,282
And then, if Betty hadn't
gotten back to her
655
00:40:35,286 --> 00:40:37,183
within an hour, she would get angry
656
00:40:37,188 --> 00:40:39,785
and call Betty again,
then call me again.
657
00:40:39,790 --> 00:40:43,155
Crescendoing to some sort
of nuclear outburst.
658
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,424
Okay, now I'd like to move...
659
00:40:45,429 --> 00:40:47,929
Sorry, can I ask a question?
660
00:40:51,634 --> 00:40:53,999
Did you want Monica to stop calling you?
661
00:40:54,004 --> 00:40:56,101
Yes.
662
00:40:56,106 --> 00:41:00,105
Her behavior became volatile.
Very erratic.
663
00:41:00,110 --> 00:41:04,075
So why did you not just say,
"Please stop calling me"?
664
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,578
That's what my kid said.
665
00:41:06,583 --> 00:41:08,213
So why didn't you?
666
00:41:08,218 --> 00:41:11,082
Well, at a, at a certain point,
667
00:41:11,087 --> 00:41:13,150
you can't unring a bell.
668
00:41:13,155 --> 00:41:15,686
You talk like this was a grave situation
669
00:41:15,691 --> 00:41:17,922
and harmful for Monica, right?
670
00:41:17,927 --> 00:41:20,625
- Yes, very.
- But earlier
671
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:22,227
we heard you encouraging her
672
00:41:22,232 --> 00:41:24,661
to buy him a tie for each day
of the week.
673
00:41:24,666 --> 00:41:27,197
Well, that...
674
00:41:27,202 --> 00:41:28,865
I was joking.
675
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:32,535
And when Monica said,
"I got the creep a tie.
676
00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:34,304
It was 20 bucks at Marshalls",
677
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:36,340
you replied, "Oh, good".
678
00:41:36,345 --> 00:41:38,145
Well, I was being...
679
00:41:39,381 --> 00:41:41,211
That was more of a pro-Marshalls.
680
00:41:41,216 --> 00:41:44,915
So, was this a serious situation
or was this a joking matter?
681
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,384
That's one moment out of context.
682
00:41:47,389 --> 00:41:49,619
Or were you just trying
to keep her talking?
683
00:41:49,624 --> 00:41:52,025
Because by then you were taping.
684
00:41:53,494 --> 00:41:55,090
I prefer to call it documenting.
685
00:41:55,095 --> 00:41:56,194
Why did you tape her?
686
00:41:56,198 --> 00:41:58,027
We'll get to that in just a little bit.
687
00:41:58,032 --> 00:42:00,563
I documented our phone calls
because I knew
688
00:42:00,568 --> 00:42:02,734
- I needed evidence.
- Evidence for what?
689
00:42:04,072 --> 00:42:06,402
Well, for... so when I came forward...
690
00:42:06,407 --> 00:42:08,705
- But it was a private matter.
- I don't think you comprehend...
691
00:42:08,709 --> 00:42:10,307
It was between Monica and the president.
692
00:42:10,311 --> 00:42:11,511
No one needed to know.
693
00:42:11,516 --> 00:42:14,110
Actually, this was a very young staffer
694
00:42:14,115 --> 00:42:16,745
in a workplace with
the most senior official
695
00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:18,614
in that workplace making choices
696
00:42:18,619 --> 00:42:21,317
that were causing her severe distress.
697
00:42:21,322 --> 00:42:23,686
She told me on more than one occasion
698
00:42:23,691 --> 00:42:25,154
she wanted to kill herself.
699
00:42:25,159 --> 00:42:29,058
And still, the president
of the United States
700
00:42:29,063 --> 00:42:31,193
used her to meet his needs.
701
00:42:31,198 --> 00:42:35,066
He had total control.
His behavior was unconscionable.
702
00:42:38,071 --> 00:42:40,235
It was an abuse of power.
703
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:42,370
- Mrs. Tripp...
- I had to end it.
704
00:42:42,375 --> 00:42:44,209
I had to end it.
705
00:42:49,649 --> 00:42:53,315
Mrs. Tripp, when you chose to...
706
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,784
begin documenting Monica,
707
00:42:56,789 --> 00:42:59,954
you were under enormous stress, correct?
708
00:42:59,959 --> 00:43:02,757
I was terrified.
709
00:43:02,762 --> 00:43:06,127
I knew if I came forward
with no evidence,
710
00:43:06,132 --> 00:43:07,894
they would destroy me.
711
00:43:07,899 --> 00:43:10,831
When you say "they",
who are you referring to?
712
00:43:10,836 --> 00:43:13,734
Bill Clinton.
713
00:43:13,739 --> 00:43:16,003
And, uh, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
714
00:43:16,008 --> 00:43:17,874
Oh, man.
715
00:43:20,112 --> 00:43:22,909
The president's lawyer had already made
716
00:43:22,914 --> 00:43:25,279
a defamatory statement
about me in Newsweek.
717
00:43:25,284 --> 00:43:27,381
I was sure I was going to be subpoenaed
718
00:43:27,386 --> 00:43:29,016
in the Paula Jones case.
719
00:43:29,021 --> 00:43:31,384
I felt, if I told the truth under oath,
720
00:43:31,389 --> 00:43:33,254
I would lose my job.
721
00:43:33,259 --> 00:43:35,088
Or worse.
722
00:43:35,093 --> 00:43:37,859
You thought if you told the
truth in the Paula Jones case...
723
00:43:37,864 --> 00:43:39,992
I was afraid I wouldn't even
get the chance.
724
00:43:39,997 --> 00:43:42,762
Are you... are you saying you
thought you would be killed?
725
00:43:42,767 --> 00:43:44,730
Yes.
726
00:43:44,735 --> 00:43:47,266
- Why?
- I have what I consider
727
00:43:47,271 --> 00:43:48,868
well-founded fears
728
00:43:48,873 --> 00:43:50,970
of what this administration
is capable of.
729
00:43:50,975 --> 00:43:52,838
Can you give an example?
730
00:43:52,843 --> 00:43:55,708
I have, uh, reason to believe
731
00:43:55,713 --> 00:43:57,810
that the Vince Foster tragedy was not
732
00:43:57,815 --> 00:44:00,980
depicted accurately by
members of the administration.
733
00:44:00,985 --> 00:44:04,484
Are you... are you saying
he didn't commit suicide?
734
00:44:04,489 --> 00:44:07,019
We will never know.
735
00:44:07,024 --> 00:44:09,421
Mrs. Tripp, do you have information
736
00:44:09,426 --> 00:44:11,924
about the White House
and the death of Vince Foster?
737
00:44:11,929 --> 00:44:14,426
I'll just say this.
738
00:44:14,431 --> 00:44:17,396
The day after that tragedy,
739
00:44:17,401 --> 00:44:21,167
the behavior I saw in
the West Wing frightened me.
740
00:44:21,172 --> 00:44:24,203
There was a flurry of activity, boxes
741
00:44:24,208 --> 00:44:26,438
and secrecy behind closed doors.
742
00:44:26,443 --> 00:44:28,908
I was concerned, and I was alarmed.
743
00:44:28,913 --> 00:44:31,744
Because people were
meeting behind closed doors?
744
00:44:31,749 --> 00:44:35,915
It was far more
ominous than that.
745
00:44:39,123 --> 00:44:42,087
I am telling you, under oath today,
746
00:44:42,092 --> 00:44:44,356
that I felt threatened.
747
00:44:44,361 --> 00:44:48,827
And I was angry. And I resented it.
748
00:44:48,832 --> 00:44:51,830
- And still do.
- I have a question.
749
00:44:51,835 --> 00:44:54,199
Did you ever think
about what would happen
750
00:44:54,204 --> 00:44:56,367
to Monica when all this came out?
751
00:44:59,042 --> 00:45:02,006
All right, call me back, you nut.
752
00:45:02,011 --> 00:45:05,213
- Ugh. I will, I will.
- Bye.
753
00:45:14,190 --> 00:45:15,786
- Done.
- Your attorney
754
00:45:15,791 --> 00:45:18,089
has a car waiting for you out back.
If you want, I can...
755
00:45:18,094 --> 00:45:20,125
I know the way.
756
00:45:24,466 --> 00:45:28,232
I thought, uh, if this became public,
757
00:45:28,237 --> 00:45:31,001
Monica would not be
in any sort of danger.
758
00:45:31,006 --> 00:45:33,570
But you said you felt dangers,
both personal
759
00:45:33,575 --> 00:45:35,472
and professional, could befall you.
760
00:45:35,477 --> 00:45:38,311
What crossed your mind
that would befall Monica?
761
00:45:39,915 --> 00:45:42,079
Uh, what-what would befall her?
762
00:45:42,084 --> 00:45:44,381
Did you have any fears for her?
763
00:45:44,386 --> 00:45:46,383
All these details in the public.
764
00:45:46,388 --> 00:45:49,253
She was... I-I think I said this.
765
00:45:49,258 --> 00:45:50,988
Uh, she was suicidal.
766
00:45:50,993 --> 00:45:52,923
You're not
answering her question.
767
00:45:52,928 --> 00:45:57,861
What Monica was going through
was extremely unhealthy.
768
00:45:57,866 --> 00:46:00,232
But you didn't think
it would bring her harm?
769
00:46:01,602 --> 00:46:03,836
Well, not compared to...
770
00:46:06,340 --> 00:46:08,274
- No.
- Why not?
771
00:46:10,178 --> 00:46:11,440
Uh, pardon?
772
00:46:11,445 --> 00:46:14,210
Why would you not think about her?
773
00:46:17,418 --> 00:46:21,884
I was thinking that she was
in a tremendously bad situation.
774
00:46:23,557 --> 00:46:27,389
And do you feel now she's better
off because of what you did?
775
00:46:27,394 --> 00:46:29,961
Do you feel her life is better now?
776
00:46:39,272 --> 00:46:41,572
- How'd it go?
- Ready, Linda?
777
00:46:43,109 --> 00:46:44,605
You sure?
778
00:46:44,610 --> 00:46:46,577
You don't have to do this right now.
779
00:47:02,728 --> 00:47:04,425
We understand
780
00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:06,626
there is some interest
in hearing from Ms. Tripp.
781
00:47:06,631 --> 00:47:09,430
She will not be taking
any questions today.
782
00:47:09,435 --> 00:47:13,533
She has, however, agreed
to make some brief remarks.
783
00:47:17,542 --> 00:47:21,275
Good afternoon.
I'm not a public speaker.
784
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,977
I'm going to have to refer to my notes.
785
00:47:22,982 --> 00:47:24,014
Please bear with me.
786
00:47:29,121 --> 00:47:32,319
I understand that there's
been a great deal of speculation
787
00:47:32,324 --> 00:47:35,689
about just who I am and how I got here.
788
00:47:35,694 --> 00:47:38,324
Well, the answer is simple.
789
00:47:38,329 --> 00:47:41,563
I'm you. I'm just like you.
790
00:47:42,666 --> 00:47:46,199
I'm an average American
who found herself in a situation
791
00:47:46,204 --> 00:47:48,434
not of her own making.
792
00:47:48,439 --> 00:47:51,837
Because I am just like you,
I ask you to imagine how you
793
00:47:51,842 --> 00:47:54,340
would feel if someone
you thought was a friend
794
00:47:54,345 --> 00:47:56,178
urged you to commit a felony.
795
00:47:57,515 --> 00:48:00,546
Imagine how you would feel
if your boss's attorney
796
00:48:00,551 --> 00:48:03,286
called you a liar in front
of the whole country.
797
00:48:04,455 --> 00:48:06,119
And imagine if that boss
798
00:48:06,124 --> 00:48:08,690
was the president of the United States.
799
00:48:11,561 --> 00:48:15,460
Imagine how you would feel
if your employer demoted you
800
00:48:15,465 --> 00:48:19,200
and cast you aside,
for daring to tell the truth.
801
00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:26,738
Imagine how it would feel to see
the pain in your children's eyes
802
00:48:26,743 --> 00:48:29,441
when they hear
a seemingly endless barrage
803
00:48:29,446 --> 00:48:31,210
of lies about their mother.
804
00:48:31,215 --> 00:48:35,150
A mother who is not
going out to defend herself.
805
00:48:41,258 --> 00:48:44,125
I've been vilified for
taking the path of truth.
806
00:48:45,227 --> 00:48:47,325
I've been maligned
by people who have chosen
807
00:48:47,330 --> 00:48:49,360
not to tell the truth,
808
00:48:49,365 --> 00:48:52,696
and who know they
are not telling the truth.
809
00:48:52,701 --> 00:48:55,131
To cast me in the role of the villain,
810
00:48:55,136 --> 00:48:57,435
they have enlisted
legions of paid prevaricators.
811
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,903
Not surprisingly, many
from the entertainment industry
812
00:48:59,908 --> 00:49:02,276
have chosen to ridicule me as well.
813
00:49:03,512 --> 00:49:06,277
Going so far as to even
make fun of my appearance
814
00:49:06,282 --> 00:49:10,047
in a manner so mean and so cruel
that I pray none of you
815
00:49:10,052 --> 00:49:11,418
is ever subjected to it.
816
00:49:13,422 --> 00:49:15,286
Despite all of that,
817
00:49:15,291 --> 00:49:18,359
I bear no malice towards
anyone in this case.
818
00:49:27,535 --> 00:49:29,368
I believe in our country.
819
00:49:30,472 --> 00:49:33,704
As I said, I am no different
than any of you.
820
00:49:33,709 --> 00:49:37,808
I believe you have the right
to tell the truth under oath
821
00:49:37,813 --> 00:49:40,547
without fear of retribution or worse.
822
00:49:42,584 --> 00:49:46,149
I hope that when all
the facts are revealed,
823
00:49:46,154 --> 00:49:47,751
you'll understand that it is a right
824
00:49:47,756 --> 00:49:50,189
all of us should be fighting for.
825
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,226
Thank you.
826
00:49:56,463 --> 00:49:58,263
Why did you betray Monica Lewinsky?
827
00:49:59,366 --> 00:50:00,630
We're not taking any questions.
828
00:50:00,635 --> 00:50:02,698
Linda, do you regret taping Monica?
829
00:50:02,703 --> 00:50:04,667
Isn't it true
you manipulated her?
830
00:50:04,672 --> 00:50:07,239
Did you do
all this for a book deal?
831
00:50:16,512 --> 00:50:18,707
The atmosphere
feels very different
832
00:50:18,712 --> 00:50:20,343
- among the party now.
- Look, I've read
833
00:50:20,347 --> 00:50:21,843
the deposition and it's very clear...
834
00:50:21,848 --> 00:50:22,913
Members
of President Clinton's
835
00:50:22,917 --> 00:50:24,581
own party are now wavering
in their support,
836
00:50:24,585 --> 00:50:25,881
including my guest,
837
00:50:25,886 --> 00:50:27,183
Congressman Jim Moran.
838
00:50:27,188 --> 00:50:29,617
The fact is he lied
to the American people.
839
00:50:29,622 --> 00:50:31,720
That is undoubtedly going to
840
00:50:31,725 --> 00:50:34,192
necessitate impeachment proceedings.
841
00:50:48,508 --> 00:50:52,607
Andrew Johnson... worst leader
this country ever had.
842
00:50:53,212 --> 00:50:56,310
Racist to his core, drunk as hell
843
00:50:56,315 --> 00:50:58,381
the day he took over for Lincoln.
844
00:50:59,551 --> 00:51:03,253
1868 Congress finally impeached his ass.
845
00:51:04,656 --> 00:51:07,524
Only president
that's happened to, only one.
846
00:51:08,895 --> 00:51:10,227
Till now.
847
00:51:12,064 --> 00:51:14,328
I hate it when you're like this.
848
00:51:14,333 --> 00:51:17,468
We have not lost anything, not yet.
849
00:51:22,808 --> 00:51:24,341
I'll call Jim Moran.
850
00:51:25,311 --> 00:51:27,141
What'll you say?
851
00:51:27,678 --> 00:51:31,977
I will say that if he thinks
he is fighting for me,
852
00:51:31,982 --> 00:51:34,813
then he needs to fight on my side.
853
00:51:34,818 --> 00:51:37,449
And the way I see it,
854
00:51:37,454 --> 00:51:40,085
there are forces that have
been trying to take my husband
855
00:51:40,090 --> 00:51:42,988
down his whole life
and I don't want them to win.
856
00:51:42,993 --> 00:51:44,793
And I won't let them.
857
00:51:45,996 --> 00:51:48,260
And yes, the right's got the votes,
858
00:51:48,265 --> 00:51:50,028
and I'm sure they will do their worst.
859
00:51:50,033 --> 00:51:51,597
But to state the obvious,
860
00:51:51,602 --> 00:51:53,599
you are not Andrew fucking Johnson.
861
00:51:53,604 --> 00:51:57,269
And the last billion times
the GOP has tried to destroy us,
862
00:51:57,274 --> 00:51:59,671
we have wiped the floor with them.
863
00:51:59,676 --> 00:52:01,372
Have you seen the polls?
864
00:52:01,377 --> 00:52:03,508
Every step they take towards this
865
00:52:03,513 --> 00:52:07,212
moronic idea,
your approval jumps a point.
866
00:52:07,217 --> 00:52:09,014
Nobody's looking at the polls.
867
00:52:09,419 --> 00:52:11,749
My own party isn't looking at the polls.
868
00:52:11,754 --> 00:52:14,519
They just need
permission to forgive you.
869
00:52:14,524 --> 00:52:17,391
Which is something
that you can't give them.
870
00:52:20,596 --> 00:52:21,995
But I can.
871
00:52:24,334 --> 00:52:26,531
This is all the FBI interviews?
872
00:52:26,536 --> 00:52:28,500
We're waiting on a few more.
873
00:52:28,505 --> 00:52:30,101
We have a problem.
874
00:52:30,106 --> 00:52:31,936
We need to put Monica back under oath.
875
00:52:31,941 --> 00:52:34,538
- Why?
- Our perjury charge rests on the president
876
00:52:34,543 --> 00:52:36,842
claiming that technically he
didn't have sex with her because
877
00:52:36,846 --> 00:52:38,775
he never touched her
with intent to arouse.
878
00:52:38,780 --> 00:52:41,345
He's lying, but here's hours and hours
879
00:52:41,350 --> 00:52:43,580
of Monica's testimony,
and she never once
880
00:52:43,585 --> 00:52:44,848
speaks about all the times
881
00:52:44,853 --> 00:52:46,850
that he touched her
with intent to arouse.
882
00:52:46,855 --> 00:52:48,785
It was implied on our chart.
883
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:52,021
That's weak shit. We need her
under oath, in detail,
884
00:52:52,026 --> 00:52:53,990
on all the sex, proving him wrong.
885
00:52:53,995 --> 00:52:55,726
Okay, let's bring her back in.
886
00:52:55,731 --> 00:52:59,366
Gosh, who's going to
handle asking her about that?
887
00:53:00,802 --> 00:53:04,203
We are on the record.
Monica, you're still under oath.
888
00:53:05,206 --> 00:53:08,471
First, I want to start by
asking you a general question.
889
00:53:08,476 --> 00:53:10,406
Did your relationship
with President Clinton
890
00:53:10,411 --> 00:53:12,174
start with sex and then evolve into
891
00:53:12,179 --> 00:53:13,912
a friendship or the other way around?
892
00:53:15,449 --> 00:53:17,847
It started with a physical attraction
893
00:53:17,852 --> 00:53:20,583
which led to a sexual relationship.
894
00:53:20,588 --> 00:53:22,718
And then the emotional and...
895
00:53:22,723 --> 00:53:25,220
friendship aspects of
that relationship developed
896
00:53:25,225 --> 00:53:28,527
after the beginning of
the sexual relationship.
897
00:53:29,563 --> 00:53:31,660
Why don't we start
with the first incident
898
00:53:31,665 --> 00:53:33,963
of physical intimacy: November 15, 1995,
899
00:53:33,968 --> 00:53:36,031
which you've already
testified some about.
900
00:53:36,036 --> 00:53:38,200
- Okay.
- Can you tell me
901
00:53:38,205 --> 00:53:40,102
how the physical intimacy
between you two
902
00:53:40,107 --> 00:53:41,271
began that night?
903
00:53:44,210 --> 00:53:45,710
Um...
904
00:53:46,946 --> 00:53:49,844
Well, we were, uh...
905
00:53:49,849 --> 00:53:52,647
in an office alone.
906
00:53:52,652 --> 00:53:54,719
Kissing, you know?
907
00:53:56,088 --> 00:53:59,089
And then what happened
after the kissing started?
908
00:54:01,494 --> 00:54:07,029
Um, he started untucking my shirt.
909
00:54:07,734 --> 00:54:08,900
And then what?
910
00:54:12,238 --> 00:54:14,902
I'm sorry. For legal reasons,
911
00:54:14,907 --> 00:54:18,071
I need to get specifically
what happened.
912
00:54:18,076 --> 00:54:19,776
Each physical interaction.
913
00:54:21,212 --> 00:54:22,712
Okay.
914
00:54:23,749 --> 00:54:26,079
Um...
915
00:54:26,084 --> 00:54:31,952
So, he took off my sweater
and, you know...
916
00:54:31,957 --> 00:54:33,957
Did he touch your breasts?
917
00:54:35,527 --> 00:54:38,227
- Yes.
- With your bra on or off?
918
00:54:41,867 --> 00:54:44,197
I...
919
00:54:44,202 --> 00:54:48,734
I-I... I don't remember
if I unhooked my bra
920
00:54:48,739 --> 00:54:51,807
or if he, um...
921
00:54:54,879 --> 00:54:57,810
... lifted my...
922
00:54:57,815 --> 00:55:00,413
bra up over... This is embarrassing.
923
00:55:00,418 --> 00:55:01,814
I know.
924
00:55:01,819 --> 00:55:03,151
I'm sorry.
925
00:55:08,859 --> 00:55:10,225
But he...
926
00:55:11,562 --> 00:55:14,193
He lifted the bra over your breasts.
927
00:55:14,198 --> 00:55:17,733
Um... sometimes...
928
00:55:21,305 --> 00:55:27,772
... he would lift my-my breasts
out of my bra. God.
929
00:55:27,777 --> 00:55:30,241
Did he touch your breasts
with his hands?
930
00:55:30,246 --> 00:55:31,376
Yes.
931
00:55:31,381 --> 00:55:33,381
Did he touch your breasts
with his mouth?
932
00:55:34,751 --> 00:55:36,951
- Yes.
- Did he touch your genital area?
933
00:55:41,625 --> 00:55:44,623
Uh, I-I know this is...
934
00:55:44,628 --> 00:55:47,626
It's just, um, thinking about
other people reading this...
935
00:55:47,631 --> 00:55:50,662
I understand, but I've been instructed
936
00:55:50,667 --> 00:55:52,163
to question you on these details.
937
00:55:52,168 --> 00:55:53,865
- And I have to answer?
- Pursuant to the agreement
938
00:55:53,869 --> 00:55:55,333
you have with this office, yes.
939
00:55:55,338 --> 00:55:56,870
Do you understand?
940
00:55:58,206 --> 00:56:00,040
- Yes.
- Okay.
941
00:56:01,444 --> 00:56:03,644
Did he touch your genitals on this date?
942
00:56:05,848 --> 00:56:06,877
Yes.
943
00:56:06,882 --> 00:56:09,350
Can you describe exactly
how that happened?
944
00:56:12,287 --> 00:56:13,854
He, um...
945
00:56:23,098 --> 00:56:25,262
The president...
946
00:56:25,267 --> 00:56:28,902
uh, got a call, so we moved
into a back office.
947
00:56:31,305 --> 00:56:33,205
While he was on the phone...
948
00:56:36,243 --> 00:56:39,876
... he put his hand, uh,
down my pants and he...
949
00:56:39,881 --> 00:56:41,978
stimulated that area.
950
00:56:41,983 --> 00:56:44,116
Directly on your skin
or through underwear?
951
00:56:46,788 --> 00:56:49,919
It was, um, touching...
952
00:56:49,924 --> 00:56:53,089
through my underwear
at first and then he
953
00:56:53,094 --> 00:56:55,357
placed his hand under my underwear.
954
00:56:55,362 --> 00:56:57,663
And did he bring you to orgasm?
955
00:57:01,402 --> 00:57:03,703
- Yes.
- Okay.
956
00:57:05,338 --> 00:57:08,403
On this night, did you perform
oral sex on the president?
957
00:57:08,408 --> 00:57:10,108
Yes.
958
00:57:12,045 --> 00:57:13,374
Who initiated that?
959
00:57:13,379 --> 00:57:15,146
I did.
960
00:57:16,316 --> 00:57:19,518
Did the president say
anything to you during this?
961
00:57:21,254 --> 00:57:22,754
No.
962
00:57:25,391 --> 00:57:26,958
He was on the phone.
963
00:57:30,430 --> 00:57:32,330
Would you like a break?
964
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,005
Moving to March 31, 1996,
965
00:57:44,010 --> 00:57:46,040
did the president
stimulate your genitals?
966
00:57:46,045 --> 00:57:47,611
Yes.
967
00:57:49,915 --> 00:57:52,149
Was that through clothing?
968
00:57:54,019 --> 00:57:55,816
Not through clothing.
969
00:57:55,821 --> 00:57:59,186
And he stimulated your
genitals with his hands?
970
00:57:59,191 --> 00:58:02,392
Yes. And...
971
00:58:05,097 --> 00:58:06,429
And?
972
00:58:08,734 --> 00:58:11,101
He used, um...
973
00:58:13,071 --> 00:58:14,937
He had a cigar.
974
00:58:18,777 --> 00:58:22,108
I'm sorry, could you speak just
a little louder for the tape?
975
00:58:22,113 --> 00:58:23,510
Okay, sorry.
976
00:58:23,515 --> 00:58:24,744
He had a cigar.
977
00:58:24,749 --> 00:58:26,949
Did he insert the cigar
into your vagina?
978
00:58:30,321 --> 00:58:32,318
I'm sorry, I'm gonna need you
to answer verbally.
979
00:58:32,323 --> 00:58:33,622
Yes.
980
00:58:35,693 --> 00:58:37,826
Whose idea, um... ?
981
00:58:39,330 --> 00:58:40,896
How did that... ?
982
00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:46,031
Um, we were talking, um,
983
00:58:46,036 --> 00:58:49,435
in the Oval Office...
984
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,205
one day and he was,
985
00:58:53,210 --> 00:58:56,008
uh, he-he was chewing on a...
986
00:58:56,013 --> 00:59:00,482
cigar and he looked at it
in a sort of...
987
00:59:02,753 --> 00:59:06,384
... naughty way and I said,
988
00:59:06,389 --> 00:59:10,626
"We can do that sometime". So we did.
989
00:59:12,462 --> 00:59:15,029
Did you understand it to be arousing?
990
00:59:16,499 --> 00:59:18,766
- Yes.
- Then what happened?
991
00:59:29,111 --> 00:59:30,911
Um...
992
00:59:31,981 --> 00:59:36,184
He put it in his mouth.
He said it tasted good.
993
00:59:40,021 --> 00:59:42,453
Okay, I have just one last question.
994
00:59:42,458 --> 00:59:44,123
It goes to your motivation.
995
00:59:45,861 --> 00:59:49,028
Do you for any reason
want to hurt the president?
996
00:59:51,066 --> 00:59:53,564
No, that's the last thing I want.
997
00:59:53,569 --> 00:59:55,532
All right.
998
00:59:55,537 --> 00:59:59,205
Thank you. You did really well, Monica.
999
01:00:00,409 --> 01:00:03,206
That's all I have.
I have to run this in.
1000
01:00:03,211 --> 01:00:05,745
Pam can help you see yourself out.
1001
01:00:07,182 --> 01:00:09,249
Is it a boy or a girl?
1002
01:00:11,986 --> 01:00:15,852
Uh... It's a boy.
1003
01:00:15,857 --> 01:00:17,790
Mazel tov.
1004
01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:21,323
For your sake, I hope this is goodbye.
1005
01:00:37,812 --> 01:00:42,077
I want the full report ready
for Congress by Labor Day.
1006
01:00:42,082 --> 01:00:44,013
Judge, that's two weeks from now.
1007
01:00:44,018 --> 01:00:45,980
Any closer to the election and it will
1008
01:00:45,985 --> 01:00:48,049
appear like a political hit
on the Democrats.
1009
01:00:48,054 --> 01:00:50,452
Brett, please make sure
everyone has their drafts in
1010
01:00:50,457 --> 01:00:52,086
by September 4th.
1011
01:00:52,091 --> 01:00:55,123
- Got it.
- Our FBI guys just sent this 302.
1012
01:00:55,128 --> 01:00:56,725
It's a new interview with Jane Doe 5.
1013
01:00:56,730 --> 01:00:59,461
Real name Juanita Broaddrick.
She's changing her statement.
1014
01:00:59,466 --> 01:01:02,196
- What she's saying?
- That Bill Clinton raped her.
1015
01:01:02,201 --> 01:01:05,133
This is that same woman who,
back in January,
1016
01:01:05,138 --> 01:01:07,036
signed an affidavit saying
nothing ever happened.
1017
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,637
Right. Now she says that was a lie.
1018
01:01:08,642 --> 01:01:11,105
Why is she lying?
Was she coerced by the Clintons?
1019
01:01:11,110 --> 01:01:13,475
- No.
- Was she offered something?
1020
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,377
No, no quid pro quo.
She's saying she lied at first
1021
01:01:16,382 --> 01:01:18,146
because she didn't want to be involved.
1022
01:01:18,151 --> 01:01:20,414
She's had no contact with
Clinton people since the '80s.
1023
01:01:20,419 --> 01:01:21,650
Well, if he didn't pressure her,
1024
01:01:21,654 --> 01:01:23,351
then it doesn't go to his criminality.
1025
01:01:23,355 --> 01:01:26,053
Except for the raping.
1026
01:01:26,058 --> 01:01:27,521
H-He raped her.
1027
01:01:27,526 --> 01:01:30,224
We can't be cluttering
the report with all
1028
01:01:30,229 --> 01:01:33,026
the various sexual experiences
from his past.
1029
01:01:33,031 --> 01:01:35,295
Yeah, there's only so much
ink in the world, Sol.
1030
01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:40,403
I just... Judge, read the 302,
read what he did.
1031
01:01:43,642 --> 01:01:46,540
Perjury and obstruction of justice.
1032
01:01:46,545 --> 01:01:48,576
Those are our grounds for impeachment,
1033
01:01:48,581 --> 01:01:51,011
not some lady who changes her mind
1034
01:01:51,016 --> 01:01:52,279
about what happened one night.
1035
01:01:52,284 --> 01:01:54,584
But...
1036
01:01:56,788 --> 01:02:00,620
Okay. So, should we not
put her in the report at all?
1037
01:02:00,625 --> 01:02:02,956
It can be an appendix if you want.
1038
01:02:02,961 --> 01:02:04,494
Put her in a footnote.
1039
01:02:06,330 --> 01:02:07,463
Okay.
1040
01:03:57,447 --> 01:04:01,947
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