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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:52,351 --> 00:00:56,351 www.titlovi.com 2 00:00:59,351 --> 00:01:04,106 Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker were the most famous televangelist couple in America, 3 00:01:04,273 --> 00:01:08,611 and, by far, the most prosperous. �Ken and Barbie of televangelism. 4 00:01:08,778 --> 00:01:12,990 And they seemed honest. �They brought encouragement and hope to lots of people. 5 00:01:13,157 --> 00:01:15,826 He's the president of a multi-million dollar religious organization 6 00:01:15,951 --> 00:01:19,830 called the Praise The Lord Club. �PTL also operates Heritage Village 7 00:01:19,955 --> 00:01:22,833 in Fort Mill, South Carolina. �Christian Disney World 8 00:01:22,958 --> 00:01:25,503 where PTL members can vacation with inspiration. 9 00:01:25,669 --> 00:01:28,964 They are among the best-known figures in the world of television evangelism. 10 00:01:29,089 --> 00:01:32,426 But tonight they are out of business. �Following the scandal that led 11 00:01:32,551 --> 00:01:34,345 to founder Jim Bakker's resignation last week. 12 00:01:34,470 --> 00:01:37,014 There's debate about how much the Bakker scandal will hurt 13 00:01:37,181 --> 00:01:39,350 all the television ministries and quiet concern... 14 00:01:39,517 --> 00:01:43,479 Modern warfare among the TV preachers. �In this electronic age, the stakes are high 15 00:01:43,604 --> 00:01:44,980 with millions of followers... - and recriminations. 16 00:01:45,105 --> 00:01:47,817 And caught up in the fighting are their fellow evangelists Jimmy Swaggart, 17 00:01:47,942 --> 00:01:50,736 Oral Roberts, Jerry Falwell. �Now, about what some people around here 18 00:01:50,861 --> 00:01:54,949 are calling "pearly-gate." �Pearly-gate is the story of Jim and Tammy Bakker. 19 00:01:55,115 --> 00:02:00,246 It's remarkably like Watergate, which tainted the name "politician", 20 00:02:00,412 --> 00:02:05,459 and such an episode is bound to taint the name "preacher." 21 00:02:05,584 --> 00:02:07,670 The Bakkers couldn't even get out of their car. 22 00:02:07,795 --> 00:02:10,214 There were so many people waiting to see them after three months of seclusion. 23 00:02:10,339 --> 00:02:13,968 Busloads of tourists, hoping to get a glimpse of the elusive evangelists, 24 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:16,637 but they had no better luck than the waiting newspeople. 25 00:02:20,975 --> 00:02:25,354 Okay, I'm gonna start by taking some of this off. �Okay. 26 00:02:25,479 --> 00:02:30,440 Gonna take your foundation off. �M'kay. �And then we'll start fresh. 27 00:02:31,235 --> 00:02:33,235 Can you take your lips off? 28 00:02:39,535 --> 00:02:44,290 Okay. -Do you want a little remover? �Oh, no. That's it. 29 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:50,004 That'll be all. They're permanently lined. �Oh. �And my eyes are permanently lined 30 00:02:50,129 --> 00:02:54,633 and my eyebrows are permanently on, so there's not a whole lot you can do. 31 00:02:54,758 --> 00:02:58,053 My goodness, I... I didn't know. -Mm. 32 00:02:58,178 --> 00:03:01,265 Have you never done pictures without those eyelashes? �Nope, and I never will 33 00:03:01,390 --> 00:03:02,808 because that's my trademark. 34 00:03:02,933 --> 00:03:06,270 And, you know, if I take that away, then it's not me, 35 00:03:06,478 --> 00:03:08,314 and no one's gonna wanna look at me without my trademark. 36 00:03:08,439 --> 00:03:11,317 So, I hold onto that. �Even if we softened 'em up and kept... 37 00:03:11,442 --> 00:03:16,906 No. No, you can do anything you want, but my eyelashes stay right where they are. 38 00:03:17,072 --> 00:03:22,620 That's really you. �Mm. �Oh, yeah, this is who I am. 39 00:03:38,677 --> 00:03:41,722 I didn't know what the words "glory" or "hallelujah" be 40 00:03:41,889 --> 00:03:44,892 because the devil is all around us! �Oh, yes, he is! 41 00:03:45,017 --> 00:03:47,519 And it's up to you to resist his temptations. Hallelujah! 42 00:03:48,729 --> 00:03:52,524 If you're not saved by Jesus, you open yourself up to demons 43 00:03:52,691 --> 00:03:57,154 and the devil will make a home in you! �Glory to God! 44 00:03:57,279 --> 00:04:01,450 When God spoke peace to my heart, I didn't know how to say glory or hallelujah, 45 00:04:01,617 --> 00:04:07,120 but I got saved! �I leapt upon that altar. �Jesus told me He loved me, 46 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:09,792 and He will love you. 47 00:04:11,001 --> 00:04:15,631 He speaks through her. Say, "Hallelujah!" �Hallelujah! 48 00:04:15,756 --> 00:04:20,676 She is with the Holy Spirit right now! �Feel the spirit! Say, "Glory. 49 00:04:21,220 --> 00:04:26,475 "Glory to God." �Glory to God! �You too, sister! Feel the spirit. 50 00:04:26,642 --> 00:04:28,642 Raise your hands up, folks. 51 00:04:30,479 --> 00:04:35,901 I was here. �Here the whole time. �Little girls go to Hell for lying. 52 00:04:36,276 --> 00:04:39,987 Honest and true. �I wanna be saved. 53 00:04:40,948 --> 00:04:44,410 If you let me come in with you, God'd love me like He's supposed to. 54 00:04:44,576 --> 00:04:48,289 There's reasons you can't be seen in church, Tam. �Grown-up reasons. 55 00:04:48,414 --> 00:04:50,499 Is it because everyone thinks you're a harlot? 56 00:04:52,459 --> 00:04:55,544 And I come from a time before Fred made you respectable and stuff. 57 00:04:57,339 --> 00:05:01,135 Only reason they let me back is 'cause nobody but me can play the piano. 58 00:05:01,343 --> 00:05:06,056 But you remind them I was divorced. �They see you, 59 00:05:06,223 --> 00:05:08,223 all of us is going to be banished. 60 00:05:09,351 --> 00:05:13,856 The souls of all your brothers and sisters burning in Hell because you don't listen 61 00:05:13,981 --> 00:05:15,981 and you can't sit still. 62 00:05:22,698 --> 00:05:24,698 Stop performing. 63 00:05:28,245 --> 00:05:33,667 You're going to Hell, Tammy. �You don't belong here. You don't belong anywhere. 64 00:05:33,834 --> 00:05:37,461 You're ugly. �You've got a demon inside you. 65 00:05:38,464 --> 00:05:40,466 But I don't wanna go to Hell. 66 00:05:41,508 --> 00:05:46,889 If they loved you, they wouldn't leave you here. �They love me. 67 00:05:47,014 --> 00:05:49,224 They love you not. 68 00:05:52,603 --> 00:05:57,439 Jesus, come into my heart and forgive me my sins. 69 00:05:58,317 --> 00:06:03,280 I don't know what this is everybody's getting, but if it's real, 70 00:06:03,405 --> 00:06:06,909 then, please, Jesus, give that to me. 71 00:06:09,286 --> 00:06:15,501 Amen! �Be strong in the Lord and His mighty power. �Put on the armor of God 72 00:06:15,626 --> 00:06:18,587 so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. 73 00:06:18,712 --> 00:06:21,507 For our struggle isn't against flesh and blood, 74 00:06:21,673 --> 00:06:26,512 but against the powers of this dark world! �Casting down imaginations 75 00:06:26,637 --> 00:06:32,184 on every high thing that exalts itself. �Do you feel love? -Yes. 76 00:06:32,309 --> 00:06:34,309 You feel it, sister! I know you feel it! 77 00:06:35,354 --> 00:06:40,359 You too, brother? �If you feel the love, say, "Hallelujah!" -Hallelujah! 78 00:06:40,484 --> 00:06:46,198 Say, "Glory to God!" -Glory to God! �Accept the blood! �Feel love forever! 79 00:06:46,323 --> 00:06:51,535 Hallelujah! �Praise the Lord! �Are you ready to accept the love? 80 00:06:51,745 --> 00:06:53,745 Yes. 81 00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:09,761 Tammy Faye! 82 00:07:11,181 --> 00:07:14,351 I'm so sorry. I'm so, so sorry. 83 00:07:16,103 --> 00:07:22,609 No, Tammy! �Tammy, get up. �He is with us! 84 00:07:22,734 --> 00:07:28,613 She's peeing herself! Praise God! �Yes! �Tammy, I said get up. -Shush now. 85 00:07:28,824 --> 00:07:31,702 This baby is a miracle. Don't you take her from us. 86 00:07:37,541 --> 00:07:41,376 Mr. Bakker? �Yes, sir? 87 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,880 Thank you. 88 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:53,807 Um, sorry. 89 00:07:56,226 --> 00:07:58,020 I would like to start with a verse. 90 00:07:58,145 --> 00:08:03,525 "Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper 91 00:08:03,692 --> 00:08:09,239 "and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth." �That is John 3, verse 2, 92 00:08:09,364 --> 00:08:14,244 and it's written right here in the good book. �He gave me this verse last night. 93 00:08:14,411 --> 00:08:19,041 God, He came right down and He whispered it in my ear. �He said, "Jim Bakker, 94 00:08:19,166 --> 00:08:25,088 "I intend for you to thrive, "to live, and to love 95 00:08:25,255 --> 00:08:30,425 "in this life." �He said it to me. �But us Christians, 96 00:08:30,761 --> 00:08:36,391 we've been taught that we're supposed to expect failure. 97 00:08:37,976 --> 00:08:40,896 When Jesus calls you home, you think you're going to get a bonus 98 00:08:41,021 --> 00:08:43,106 if you make yourself miserable? 99 00:08:44,274 --> 00:08:47,861 You think if you deny yourself indoor plumbing, or if you don't have shoes 100 00:08:47,986 --> 00:08:49,986 on your feet... 101 00:08:51,031 --> 00:08:53,031 I'm... I'm sorry. 102 00:08:55,744 --> 00:08:57,744 Go ahead. 103 00:08:59,790 --> 00:09:06,004 You know, Heaven, Heaven is heaven, that is for sure. �But God's hope for us 104 00:09:06,171 --> 00:09:12,886 is that we live and we thrive and we love here in the promised land. �Here and now. 105 00:09:13,011 --> 00:09:18,183 Here and now, and in this very, very moment. �Hallelujah! 106 00:09:18,308 --> 00:09:22,688 God does not want us to be poor! �Oh, no! 107 00:09:22,813 --> 00:09:29,236 He will gift the faithful with eternal life, eternal love, and eternal wealth! 108 00:09:29,403 --> 00:09:33,073 Hallelujah! Praise God! Praise Him! 109 00:09:36,034 --> 00:09:39,913 Be right to remember, "Blessed be the poor", Mr. Bakker. 110 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,207 Doesn't sound very blessed to me. 111 00:09:45,669 --> 00:09:50,382 You two are here to learn the ways of the Lord through scripture, yeah? �Yes, sir. 112 00:09:50,507 --> 00:09:52,551 And to spread the word of God. �Oh, yeah. You know, 113 00:09:52,676 --> 00:09:54,845 I'm gonna sing the word in every tent, in every church. 114 00:09:55,012 --> 00:09:57,848 You know, God told me that that's what He wants for me. 115 00:09:59,766 --> 00:10:01,766 With makeup on your face? 116 00:10:02,811 --> 00:10:04,813 Ahem. Jezebel. 117 00:10:10,277 --> 00:10:13,113 "I do my best to maintain always "a blameless conscience, 118 00:10:13,238 --> 00:10:15,490 "both before God and before men." 119 00:10:17,534 --> 00:10:19,661 "A man who keeps company with harlots 120 00:10:20,912 --> 00:10:24,750 "wastes his wealth." �Proverbs 29:3. 121 00:10:24,916 --> 00:10:30,505 "Your stature is like that of a palm and your breasts "like clusters of fruit. 122 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:36,303 "I will take hold of the palm tree." "And I will take hold of the fruit." 123 00:10:37,512 --> 00:10:39,056 That's the Song of Solomon. 124 00:10:39,181 --> 00:10:41,224 7:7. 125 00:10:45,020 --> 00:10:50,650 I'm sorry I couldn't drive you someplace nice. �Oh, this is someplace nice, Jim. 126 00:10:51,693 --> 00:10:55,113 Tell me something. Tell me a secret. �Something that no one else knows about. 127 00:10:55,238 --> 00:10:57,574 Oh, I have no secrets. �I'll tell you anything you wanna know. 128 00:10:57,699 --> 00:10:59,699 We'll start with everything. 129 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:05,666 Okay. �I'm the oldest of eight children and I'm a very practical person. 130 00:11:05,791 --> 00:11:07,292 And what you see is all there is of me. 131 00:11:07,417 --> 00:11:09,002 You know, I don't pretend to be something I'm not 132 00:11:09,127 --> 00:11:12,506 because what you see is all you get. �And I love people. 133 00:11:12,631 --> 00:11:18,178 I have a genuine, genuine love for people. �And I hurt when people hurt, 134 00:11:18,345 --> 00:11:20,514 and probably a little more dramatic than people would like me to be. 135 00:11:20,639 --> 00:11:23,475 But I enjoy that. That's just who I am. 136 00:11:24,643 --> 00:11:27,104 I've never met anyone quite like you, Tammy Faye. 137 00:11:29,940 --> 00:11:34,569 Okay. �So, um, do you have any secrets, Jim? 138 00:11:35,529 --> 00:11:38,198 Well, one or two. 139 00:11:39,074 --> 00:11:45,122 Well, tell me. �Well, before God found me, I wanted to be a radio deejay. 140 00:11:46,665 --> 00:11:52,087 No. -Yes. �I used to love to make people dance. 141 00:11:52,254 --> 00:11:58,466 Have fun. �Little Richard. �And Buddy Holly and... 142 00:11:58,677 --> 00:12:00,677 Oh, and Fats Domino. 143 00:12:02,180 --> 00:12:07,686 What happened? Why didn't you do it, Jim? �Ah. �Never mind that. 144 00:12:07,811 --> 00:12:12,107 Tell me. �Um, I don't think... 145 00:12:14,693 --> 00:12:20,032 Well, all right. I'll tell you, Tammy. Um... �Two years ago, I was on a date 146 00:12:20,157 --> 00:12:24,619 with my girlfriend, Sandy, and... �Mm. -Oh, no, with my girlfriend at the time. 147 00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:27,622 Mm. -But, anyhoo, I borrowed my daddy's car to take her out, 148 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:31,251 and there was all this snow on the ground 149 00:12:31,877 --> 00:12:38,465 and Fats was singing Blueberry Hill so loud 150 00:12:39,426 --> 00:12:43,472 and I... I was having these urges that only the devil would approve of 151 00:12:43,638 --> 00:12:46,349 and I lost control of the car. 152 00:12:49,728 --> 00:12:54,397 And I ran over a little boy, little Jimmy Summerfield. 153 00:12:54,983 --> 00:12:59,529 I ruptured Jimmy Summerfield's lung... with my daddy's tire. 154 00:12:59,696 --> 00:13:03,700 I didn't sleep all night. �I was just up worried sick about that boy dying. 155 00:13:03,825 --> 00:13:08,914 So, I... �I made a bargain with God. �I said to Him, 156 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:11,208 "I will forsake my dream of being a deejay. 157 00:13:11,374 --> 00:13:15,962 "I will stop peddling in rock and roll 158 00:13:16,129 --> 00:13:20,342 "and I'll dedicate my life to Him and Him alone. 159 00:13:20,509 --> 00:13:23,261 "If He sees fit to save that boy's life, 160 00:13:23,428 --> 00:13:26,848 "He will win two souls right then and there." 161 00:13:28,892 --> 00:13:30,892 And what happened to Jimmy Summerfield? 162 00:13:31,728 --> 00:13:36,356 He lived. �Oh. -Yes. �Praise be to God. -Yes, praise Him. 163 00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:41,110 So... 164 00:13:42,113 --> 00:13:46,785 You still like me? �Oh, sure, I do, Jim. 165 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,413 Oh, even more now that you were honest with me. 166 00:13:52,749 --> 00:13:54,749 I'll tell ya, I do miss dancing. 167 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,923 I found my thrill 168 00:14:01,466 --> 00:14:05,095 On Blueberry Hill 169 00:14:06,263 --> 00:14:09,391 I found my thrill 170 00:14:11,059 --> 00:14:17,941 When I found you �You're so loud. �Dance with me, Jim. 171 00:14:18,066 --> 00:14:23,945 Here? No, I can't. �In front of all these people? Like, no... �Please? 172 00:14:26,825 --> 00:14:30,328 The moon stood still 173 00:14:30,495 --> 00:14:34,249 On Blueberry Hill 174 00:14:34,499 --> 00:14:38,253 And lingered until 175 00:14:39,212 --> 00:14:42,924 My dreams came true 176 00:14:51,349 --> 00:14:55,226 Oh, we can't. �I know. 177 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,400 We can't. -I know. 178 00:15:05,822 --> 00:15:09,117 Oh. Oh, we can't. 179 00:15:11,161 --> 00:15:13,161 I know. 180 00:15:16,458 --> 00:15:18,458 Yeah! 181 00:15:19,544 --> 00:15:25,300 What'd you do? �Hello, Mother. This is Jim Bakker, my husband. 182 00:15:25,425 --> 00:15:32,098 Hello, Mother. �Oh, it's such a blessing to finally meet you. 183 00:15:39,314 --> 00:15:41,900 No. �No, Mother, we can't go back to school. 184 00:15:42,025 --> 00:15:44,319 They have a rule against students marrying one another. 185 00:15:44,486 --> 00:15:46,238 Did you know they had that rule when you did this? 186 00:15:46,363 --> 00:15:50,659 If I know the two of you, you're just gonna love Jim. �Oh, he's so motivated. 187 00:15:50,784 --> 00:15:54,577 He has so many big ideas. �Did you know? 188 00:16:05,215 --> 00:16:08,385 Well, you can educate yourself right out of a relationship with God. 189 00:16:08,551 --> 00:16:13,014 He has a plan for us. �God or that Jim boy? -God. 190 00:16:13,848 --> 00:16:15,517 What'd He tell ya to do this time? 191 00:16:15,642 --> 00:16:19,270 Come spring, me and Jim are going to be traveling preachers, 192 00:16:19,437 --> 00:16:20,939 bringing God's love to all people. 193 00:16:21,064 --> 00:16:23,858 Anyone who's hurting or they feel like they've been left out. 194 00:16:24,025 --> 00:16:28,530 Jim will preach and I'll sing. �And we'll be like Oral Roberts and his wife. 195 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:34,452 Oral Roberts went to college. �He has one named for him. 196 00:16:34,619 --> 00:16:36,580 God said that we're supposed to have a good life. 197 00:16:36,705 --> 00:16:38,998 That way, we can help bring his love to all people. 198 00:16:39,165 --> 00:16:41,751 There's a limit to God's love, Tammy Faye. 199 00:16:42,752 --> 00:16:48,091 No. �No, there's no limit to God's love, Mrs. Grover, 200 00:16:48,299 --> 00:16:52,929 and there's no limit to Tammy Faye and I either. �We're soldiers in Christ. 201 00:16:53,054 --> 00:16:57,851 We've been called to serve in a very real way. �God smiles on a husband and wife. 202 00:16:57,976 --> 00:17:02,897 "As a young man marries a young woman, "so will your Builder marry you; 203 00:17:03,064 --> 00:17:09,738 "as a bridegroom rejoices in his bride, "so will your God rejoice in you." 204 00:17:09,904 --> 00:17:11,904 Isaiah 62:5. 205 00:17:14,576 --> 00:17:16,576 It's something we do. 206 00:17:28,715 --> 00:17:31,384 Fred said that we could stay until the weather changes. 207 00:17:33,011 --> 00:17:35,011 Got some bubbles at the swap meet. 208 00:17:39,309 --> 00:17:41,309 I'm sorry, Tam. 209 00:17:43,021 --> 00:17:45,064 I feel like I'm letting you down. 210 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:51,696 She doesn't like me. �No, Jim. -No, she doesn't. 211 00:17:52,864 --> 00:17:55,033 Of course she likes you. 212 00:17:58,369 --> 00:18:00,369 Oh. 213 00:18:04,167 --> 00:18:07,629 It makes Tammy sad to see you so sad. 214 00:18:09,172 --> 00:18:10,507 How's there supposed to be bubbles 215 00:18:10,632 --> 00:18:13,092 if there isn't enough water to work up the bubbles? 216 00:18:13,259 --> 00:18:19,432 Oh, I can work up the bubbles, Jim. �All I gotta do is dunk my hand. 217 00:18:21,643 --> 00:18:24,145 And I swirl... 218 00:18:29,526 --> 00:18:31,526 And swirl. 219 00:18:37,325 --> 00:18:40,868 Am I doing that all right? �Uh-huh. 220 00:18:53,174 --> 00:18:55,593 Well, hello there, Tammy Faye. 221 00:18:57,303 --> 00:19:00,932 Hello, Mommy. �What are you doing with those things? 222 00:19:01,057 --> 00:19:03,101 Well, we're gonna use these puppets as part of our sermon 223 00:19:03,226 --> 00:19:04,936 and show the kids how wonderful God is. 224 00:19:05,061 --> 00:19:06,604 And if we can get enough children to come, 225 00:19:06,729 --> 00:19:08,022 they'll bring their mothers and their fathers. 226 00:19:08,147 --> 00:19:10,275 And before you know it, we'll have our own church. 227 00:19:14,904 --> 00:19:19,907 Have you counted your blessings today, Tammy Faye? �No, not yet, Susie. 228 00:19:20,159 --> 00:19:23,204 Time to count your blessings, for they are plentiful. 229 00:19:23,788 --> 00:19:30,753 Okay, well, thank you for my husband. �Oh, you're so welcome, Tammy. 230 00:19:31,504 --> 00:19:35,008 And thank you for Mother's understanding, even if she doesn't understand. 231 00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:38,136 Oh. You're welcome. 232 00:19:39,929 --> 00:19:42,348 And thank you, God, for love. 233 00:19:59,616 --> 00:20:01,616 Hmm. 234 00:20:07,248 --> 00:20:10,209 Jim! Whose car is this? 235 00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:18,218 No. �Get in. Get in. Come on. �Okay. 236 00:20:18,343 --> 00:20:20,345 Roll that window up. I got the heat on. 237 00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:25,892 This fine vehicle with the leather interior and the chrome on the wheels 238 00:20:26,059 --> 00:20:29,771 is a gift from God for us to do His work. 239 00:20:33,024 --> 00:20:35,526 But how can we afford it, Jim Bakker? 240 00:20:36,861 --> 00:20:40,073 Who is this? �I'm Susie Moppet. 241 00:20:40,198 --> 00:20:44,661 Aren't you cute? Well, do you know about God, Susie? �Oh, I do. 242 00:20:44,786 --> 00:20:49,874 Well, God has cancelled the claim of poverty and deprivation in our lives 243 00:20:49,999 --> 00:20:52,669 and He has placed all the powers of heaven 244 00:20:52,835 --> 00:20:59,634 and the First Bank of International Falls, Minnesota, at our disposal. �Oh. 245 00:21:03,638 --> 00:21:06,933 Oh, this is the nicest car I've ever seen, Jim. 246 00:21:07,141 --> 00:21:12,105 "Everything works for good for them that love God." �Everything. 247 00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:18,236 But you have to have faith in Him and in me and in us, 'cause if you don't, 248 00:21:18,403 --> 00:21:22,198 I don't know what I'm doing here. �Oh, I do, Jim. -You do? 249 00:21:24,367 --> 00:21:31,207 Does she, Susie? �Oh, she do, Jim! �She really, really do! 250 00:21:41,259 --> 00:21:47,890 You sure... �It's all right here. In Psalm 37:4. "Take delight in the Lord 251 00:21:48,057 --> 00:21:51,978 "and He will give you your heart's desires." 252 00:21:52,145 --> 00:21:57,025 God starts turning those wheels in your life! �You better believe it! 253 00:21:57,150 --> 00:22:01,404 Oh, now who is this? -Oh, I'm Susie Moppet. �Well, hello there, Susie Moppet. 254 00:22:01,529 --> 00:22:03,529 Hi! Nice to meet you! 255 00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:06,743 She jumped up. 256 00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:12,957 Yes, Jesus loves me �Yes, Jesus loves me �Yes, Jesus loves me 257 00:22:13,082 --> 00:22:19,297 The Bible tells me so �Hitch up your wagon to God. 258 00:22:19,505 --> 00:22:22,800 He's greater than any problem. �Us Christians, we're just stuck in the mud 259 00:22:22,925 --> 00:22:24,802 like that old game. Remember that old kids' game? 260 00:22:24,927 --> 00:22:27,096 God wants us just to run free. 261 00:22:31,476 --> 00:22:36,272 Well, this is a fun song, boys and girls. �So, hit it, Allie. �Jesus loves me 262 00:22:36,397 --> 00:22:41,400 This I know For the Bible tells me so �Yes, Jesus loves me 263 00:22:41,527 --> 00:22:44,030 The Bible tells me so 264 00:22:47,283 --> 00:22:51,955 You're watching Pat Robertson on the Christian Broadcasting Network. �Come on. 265 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:58,044 Season all your grain offerings... �Oh, come on! �Okay, okay, okay. - with salt. 266 00:22:58,211 --> 00:23:03,091 Do not leave the salt of the covenant of your God out of your grain offerings. 267 00:23:03,216 --> 00:23:06,427 Add salt to all your offerings. 268 00:23:06,552 --> 00:23:09,972 You know, he's not terribly dynamic for a charismatic. 269 00:23:10,139 --> 00:23:14,227 I know, but people just eat him up. �Focus on the foundation. 270 00:23:14,435 --> 00:23:18,272 Tammy, did you see that? -Hmm? �Watch close. Every now and again, 271 00:23:18,439 --> 00:23:23,486 he glances up at the camera. �It is upon Him that you can place your strong... 272 00:23:23,653 --> 00:23:25,071 See that? -You're right. 273 00:23:25,196 --> 00:23:28,783 He's talking right to you in the comfort of your living room. 274 00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:34,288 Well, if I could have watched a preacher on TV in my own home telling me about God, 275 00:23:34,455 --> 00:23:38,415 that would've made such a difference. �Mm. Amen. 276 00:23:38,918 --> 00:23:42,630 Especially from someone who preaches as good as you do, Jim. 277 00:23:45,591 --> 00:23:52,012 You think? -Oh, yeah. �Blow your home over? �You know, we could do that. 278 00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:56,435 You're so much more handsome than he is. 279 00:23:57,687 --> 00:24:01,274 Keep calling. �Gotta do my homework, baby. �The numbers are on your screen. 280 00:24:01,399 --> 00:24:07,321 Mm. Stop it. �You're distracting me. �Voices of angels. I hope you enjoy them, 281 00:24:07,446 --> 00:24:12,451 and we have a variety... �Well, we'll have to call the preacher down in Raleigh 282 00:24:12,618 --> 00:24:16,289 and let him know we got a better gig down here. �Don't make him cross at you, Jim. 283 00:24:16,414 --> 00:24:23,252 We wanna have him want us back. �Hold on. �What? �The car. 284 00:24:23,546 --> 00:24:25,546 I... 285 00:24:26,340 --> 00:24:30,803 I... I parked it here. �Yep, you sure did. Uh-huh. 286 00:24:32,263 --> 00:24:36,893 Well, must've got stolen... �What? �Oh. 287 00:24:37,977 --> 00:24:42,565 Oh, maybe it got towed. �No, I know I made the payments, so... 288 00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:46,652 I think I made the payments. �Oh, Jim. 289 00:24:46,777 --> 00:24:51,074 Maybe they didn't get the payments or maybe... �Oh, no. �I don't think I forgot. 290 00:24:51,199 --> 00:24:54,952 I think I... -Okay. �Oh, Tammy, I don't know... -We need to pray. 291 00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:00,416 Oh, did I? Yes, yes, yes. �Oh, Lord, we are good soldiers. 292 00:25:00,541 --> 00:25:02,126 We are here for good. -Oh, I'm sorry, Tammy. 293 00:25:02,251 --> 00:25:03,878 We are here for your good. -I'm so, so, so sorry. 294 00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:05,171 And we ask that you shine your light... 295 00:25:05,296 --> 00:25:08,424 I shouldn't have put so much faith in that bank. �God, I'm so sorry. 296 00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:15,095 Jesus, I'm so sorry. �Tammy, I'm sorry. �I'm sorry. �Jim. 297 00:25:16,849 --> 00:25:23,814 Hey. �Hey, I saw you preach last night. �Those puppets of yours filled me. Deeply. 298 00:25:23,981 --> 00:25:28,402 Oh, thank you. �Thank you. �I'm staying in the room next door. 299 00:25:28,527 --> 00:25:32,780 Can I help you with that? -No! �Well, that's very kind of you... 300 00:25:33,658 --> 00:25:36,077 but we don't rightly know where we're carrying it to. 301 00:25:36,911 --> 00:25:38,579 I work at a local television station 302 00:25:38,704 --> 00:25:40,873 with a minister by the name of Mr. Pat Robertson. 303 00:25:44,961 --> 00:25:46,961 He'd get a kick outta you two. 304 00:25:51,467 --> 00:25:54,887 Yes, honey, and that's $25 a pledge. 305 00:25:55,012 --> 00:25:58,349 CBN. 306 00:25:58,474 --> 00:26:00,474 Can I take your pledge? 307 00:26:01,811 --> 00:26:03,811 Well, I'm trying to focus. 308 00:26:05,481 --> 00:26:09,860 And you're just distracting me. �You make me laugh. I was happy to find... 309 00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:16,284 You're so funny, Graham. �Jim? -Hey, honey. 310 00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:22,373 Hi, I got a new outfit for the show. �Oh, yes, I love it. �Jim. -Yeah? 311 00:26:22,498 --> 00:26:28,004 You didn't even look at me. �Oh. �I'm sorry, Tam. �Have I ever told you 312 00:26:28,129 --> 00:26:33,593 that I am the luckiest man on the face of this planet? �Have I ever told you that? 313 00:26:33,718 --> 00:26:37,013 Not today. -Not today, no? �I'm going to tell you something, too, 314 00:26:37,138 --> 00:26:39,974 but I'm not gonna tell you right now. �You're gonna have to wait. 315 00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:46,063 No, no, no! -Yeah. �You just have to. �And there he is. 316 00:26:46,188 --> 00:26:49,400 Every time I try and talk to him, he just keeps making excuses not to see me. 317 00:26:49,567 --> 00:26:55,198 Well, my surprise is gonna make you feel so much better. �I'll be right back. 318 00:26:55,323 --> 00:26:59,952 No, Jim, the show's about to start. -Hey, Pat! �Jim! Hey! -You got a second? 319 00:27:01,162 --> 00:27:04,332 Have you given more thought to our show idea? �All right, let me get you set up. 320 00:27:04,457 --> 00:27:07,126 Don't you already have your hands full with those puppets? 321 00:27:07,251 --> 00:27:10,755 Biggest earner we got. You stay focused. �Well, yes, of course, 322 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,051 but you shut down CBN at 10 p. m. �Why not do a late-night show? 323 00:27:15,176 --> 00:27:16,928 Just kind of like Johnny Carson for Christians? 324 00:27:17,053 --> 00:27:20,306 No, Christians don't stay up that late. �Oh, I do. 325 00:27:20,431 --> 00:27:24,018 I don't sleep at all. -What about Tam? �Well, she's gonna miss you at night. 326 00:27:24,143 --> 00:27:29,231 Tammy loves the idea. -Tammy, we're on. �Okay, we're live in five, four, three. 327 00:27:33,361 --> 00:27:40,159 Oh, hello, everybody! �Hi, Tammy! �Well, Jim is a little bit late today, 328 00:27:40,326 --> 00:27:44,830 so, um, the theme of today's show, how about we make it all about the importance 329 00:27:44,955 --> 00:27:51,254 of being places on time, hmm? �Oh, no! Oh, no! �I'm sorry, kids! -There he is. 330 00:27:51,379 --> 00:27:57,051 I'm sorry, Tammy! I'm sorry, everybody. �I was just having a little, fun little chat 331 00:27:57,218 --> 00:27:59,804 with Uncle Pat just behind the barn. 332 00:27:59,970 --> 00:28:02,056 Oh, yeah, and what'd you two fellas get up to without me? 333 00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:06,143 Oh, well, it's actually something all you kids... �Mm-hmm. - are gonna wanna 334 00:28:06,268 --> 00:28:12,191 tell your parents about. �It's a brand-new show just for them 335 00:28:12,358 --> 00:28:17,321 right here on CBN! �Well, amen! 336 00:28:17,446 --> 00:28:22,201 And it's gonna be called The 700 Club. �Now, isn't that happy news? 337 00:28:22,326 --> 00:28:26,580 Hallelujah! Yes! Yes! �Hi, kids. -Oh. 338 00:28:26,705 --> 00:28:32,711 Hi, Susie Moppet. �Hi, Jim. Today's a happy day. 339 00:28:32,878 --> 00:28:36,215 Isn't it, kids? And you know why, Jim? �Why, Susie? 340 00:28:36,340 --> 00:28:41,095 Well, you're gonna have a new show, kids. �Yes. 341 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:46,849 And Jim is gonna have a baby. 342 00:28:47,768 --> 00:28:49,768 Look at Tammy, she's right behind you. 343 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:58,154 We're gonna have a baby? �Isn't the world just full of blessings, Jim? 344 00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:02,322 Huh? �That's right, folks! 345 00:29:05,453 --> 00:29:11,834 We're gonna have a baby! �Oh-ho-ho! �It's not a drag to be saved. 346 00:29:12,001 --> 00:29:16,672 It's not a boring thing. �That's religion. See, you got 'em mixed up. 347 00:29:16,839 --> 00:29:22,511 Religion is boring and dull, but Jesus is life. 348 00:29:22,678 --> 00:29:25,222 Now, my next guest is a new friend to The 700 Club, 349 00:29:25,389 --> 00:29:29,351 and I can smell his chicken, yes. 350 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,064 The Colonel, Colonel Sanders in The 700 Club! 351 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,409 Oh, the crowd appreciates you. I think they like you. 352 00:29:45,576 --> 00:29:47,328 I think they're wanting some of that chicken. 353 00:29:47,453 --> 00:29:50,829 I guess the housewives of America are thanking you for fixing dinner... 354 00:29:53,417 --> 00:29:59,340 Hello. �Oh, hi, Mom. �Do you know what time it is? Why are you calling so late? 355 00:29:59,548 --> 00:30:02,259 Well, Jim says that I need to rest for my pregnancy, 356 00:30:02,426 --> 00:30:05,804 but, oh, you know me. I can't rest, 357 00:30:05,971 --> 00:30:10,059 so thought I'd call my mother to keep me company. �I never got a rest. 358 00:30:10,184 --> 00:30:15,189 Oh, I miss working, though. You know? �It's so lonesome at home all by myself. 359 00:30:15,356 --> 00:30:19,235 Wow! Oh, wow! �And he barely touches me anymore. 360 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,779 And when he does, it's not enthusiastic. 361 00:30:23,239 --> 00:30:26,700 Well, it's up to the wife to make herself desirable for her husband. 362 00:30:26,867 --> 00:30:33,624 I do that. Oh, I do. �He's just really busy. �Really? 363 00:30:33,749 --> 00:30:38,087 So, are you watching Jim's show? �That new talk show of his is on. 364 00:30:38,254 --> 00:30:43,384 Serving God don't feel like it should be a money-making opportunity. �Yeah. 365 00:30:43,509 --> 00:30:48,597 You know, I wanna do what he's doing. �And I wanna sing and not in a puppet voice. 366 00:30:48,764 --> 00:30:51,308 And I wanna talk about issues that affect people's daily lives. 367 00:30:51,475 --> 00:30:54,228 And there's so much that we don't talk about. �There's so many secrets, 368 00:30:54,353 --> 00:31:00,148 and, you know, everyone says I'm supposed to be tired, but I just wanna love people. 369 00:31:00,276 --> 00:31:03,446 You got me out of bed to talk to me about how you're not tired. 370 00:31:03,571 --> 00:31:05,571 Does that make sense to you? 371 00:31:07,491 --> 00:31:12,705 No. �Sorry. -Night night, Tam. Take care. 372 00:31:12,871 --> 00:31:18,125 Good night, Mom. I love you. �Bye. �Okay, bye-bye. 373 00:31:20,629 --> 00:31:22,629 Who was it? 374 00:31:24,550 --> 00:31:28,679 That was Tam. �How is she? �Well, it seems like she's having some trouble 375 00:31:28,804 --> 00:31:31,432 with the pregnancy. What'd I miss? �A second childhood. 376 00:31:31,557 --> 00:31:34,351 I don't know. The sound was off. �You love kids, don't you? 377 00:31:34,476 --> 00:31:39,607 You love children. -I do. �I have five grandchildren and 14 great-grandchildren. 378 00:31:39,773 --> 00:31:41,775 Wow! 379 00:31:42,776 --> 00:31:44,776 I bet they're spoiled. Do you spoil them? 380 00:31:52,953 --> 00:31:54,955 Oh, dear Lord God. 381 00:31:57,583 --> 00:32:01,170 What doors are you gonna open up for me to walk through? 382 00:32:04,423 --> 00:32:06,550 What can I do for happiness? 383 00:32:09,637 --> 00:32:11,764 Oh, I wanna get back on TV. 384 00:32:14,099 --> 00:32:16,477 I'm going back to work for you. 385 00:32:36,622 --> 00:32:38,622 Well... 386 00:32:39,375 --> 00:32:43,210 What do you think he pays himself? �Oh. 387 00:32:44,922 --> 00:32:48,256 I should have worn the other dress. �You look fine, honey. 388 00:32:49,218 --> 00:32:53,806 Oh. �There he is. �Dede's wearing a mink. That's a real mink! 389 00:32:53,972 --> 00:32:57,685 And it's warm outside. �You know, we... we paid for all this, Tammy. 390 00:32:57,810 --> 00:33:01,021 You and me, from the swimming pool to the hot tub, 391 00:33:01,689 --> 00:33:03,774 and Dede's dead animal. We paid for it. 392 00:33:03,941 --> 00:33:09,655 Well, the fruit isn't dropping our way, that's for sure. �My little stars! 393 00:33:10,239 --> 00:33:12,908 Hello. Hey, Pat! �What a beautiful place! -How are you? 394 00:33:13,033 --> 00:33:15,033 Oh, thank you, thank you! -Paradise! 395 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,456 Look at that little baby, too. Positively a chipmunk. �Thanks. 396 00:33:19,581 --> 00:33:23,085 Hey, that's a nice coat. �Oh, thank you, dear. �Must be hot though. 397 00:33:23,210 --> 00:33:27,548 No, not in the least. �Oh. �Hey, Jim, I've been thinking. 398 00:33:27,673 --> 00:33:29,550 Mm-hmm? -Have you given any thought 399 00:33:29,675 --> 00:33:32,219 to taking some time off to be with your family? 400 00:33:33,053 --> 00:33:37,141 These times do not come back. �No. -Trust me, they are precious, precious times. 401 00:33:37,266 --> 00:33:41,854 No, sir. -Mm. �I can do The 700 Club for a time. 402 00:33:42,521 --> 00:33:48,527 We can air reruns of Jim and Tammy for a few weeks. �Hmm. -A couple of months even. 403 00:33:48,694 --> 00:33:50,694 What do you think? 404 00:33:51,947 --> 00:33:55,743 It's very... It's very kind of you, Uncle Pat. �Thank you. 405 00:33:55,868 --> 00:33:59,663 But, you know, I got that bond going with my audience, you know? 406 00:33:59,788 --> 00:34:02,958 We're on the up-and-up. �I couldn't think of abandoning them right now. 407 00:34:03,125 --> 00:34:08,922 Well, we'll think about it. -Oh, Pat, Pat, Pat! �Oh. -He came. �Oh, my goodness! 408 00:34:14,178 --> 00:34:16,680 Hello! Hello! -Honey. �I see, I see him. -Go say hi! 409 00:34:16,805 --> 00:34:19,183 I know, I see him. We'll sit down, we'll sit down. �Was your drive in okay? 410 00:34:19,308 --> 00:34:22,019 Jim, go say hi! -I don't wanna say hi. �I'm fine. We'll say hi later. 411 00:34:22,144 --> 00:34:26,315 You remember Jim and Tammy Faye? �Hey, now, the puppet people! 412 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:32,154 Oh, my goodness, just... �What a pleasure, Mr. Falwell. �A pleasure and a blessing. 413 00:34:32,279 --> 00:34:35,574 You are truly an inspiration to me. It's an honor. 414 00:34:35,741 --> 00:34:39,036 Nice to meet you, Jerry. I'm Tammy. �Tammy Faye and this is Sissy. 415 00:34:39,161 --> 00:34:43,622 Aren't the three of you as cute as a button? �Aw! -Yes, sir! 416 00:34:43,749 --> 00:34:45,749 It's a moral issue... 417 00:34:47,795 --> 00:34:49,795 feminist revolution. 418 00:34:55,093 --> 00:34:59,139 You know it was fate. �It was when my youngest was being baptized, 419 00:34:59,306 --> 00:35:02,768 she was such a little-bitty thing that we had to put a little milk crate 420 00:35:02,893 --> 00:35:05,270 in the baptismal for her to stand on. 421 00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:08,857 Come on, let's go see Daddy. 422 00:35:13,445 --> 00:35:16,905 Hi! �Could I sit down? 423 00:35:17,783 --> 00:35:21,078 I have the baby, you know. �It's kinda hard to eat and, you know... 424 00:35:21,203 --> 00:35:25,582 Sure. Um, yeah. �Using the fork and the knife at the same time 425 00:35:25,749 --> 00:35:28,252 and, you know, get the food to my mouth. �Well, why don't... 426 00:35:28,377 --> 00:35:32,005 I think... -And I wanna hear all this interesting stuff. �Yeah, but... -Honey... 427 00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:35,298 Well, I'll be right back. �Tam. -Oh. 428 00:35:36,343 --> 00:35:38,343 She's a firecracker, Jim. 429 00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:47,853 Jim. -Yes. �Come on. �Okay. 430 00:35:49,273 --> 00:35:54,943 Okay. �Well, very nice. �As you were saying, Jerry? 431 00:35:56,530 --> 00:35:58,740 Let's call me Reverend Falwell. 432 00:35:59,616 --> 00:36:04,454 Of course. �Young people today are raised on television. 433 00:36:04,621 --> 00:36:11,420 It's taught them an immorality. �But now, we are on television. 434 00:36:12,838 --> 00:36:18,010 When I created The 700 Club, all I needed was 700 people to keep us going. 435 00:36:18,135 --> 00:36:21,847 A year later, we're in six markets and growin'. 436 00:36:22,014 --> 00:36:26,393 Hundreds of thousands of folks are hearin' the word. 437 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,980 Now, God has a voice in this fight. �Amen. -Mm-hmm. �Mm. Who's He fighting? 438 00:36:32,733 --> 00:36:38,322 The liberal agenda. �The feminist agenda. �Homosexual agenda. 439 00:36:38,447 --> 00:36:44,286 It's time for a reversal of these trends. �The only hope's in saving America. 440 00:36:44,494 --> 00:36:50,125 Get back to the good old days. �Mm. Mm. �Well, I love our country, 441 00:36:50,792 --> 00:36:56,215 but America is for them, too. �Uh... Well... �Oh, Tam? -Mm? 442 00:36:56,340 --> 00:36:59,758 Will you mind getting me another Coke? �Jim, let your wife speak. 443 00:37:00,385 --> 00:37:03,180 Debate. I think it gets us all back to unity. 444 00:37:03,347 --> 00:37:06,099 Oh, I don't want to debate you, Jerry. I love you. 445 00:37:06,266 --> 00:37:08,310 I love all of you guys. -Reverend Falwell. 446 00:37:09,269 --> 00:37:14,314 Um... �We love you, too, Tammy Faye. �Yes, we do. 447 00:37:15,067 --> 00:37:16,193 God as my witness, 448 00:37:16,318 --> 00:37:20,572 I made a pledge to continue to expose the sins in this country. 449 00:37:21,198 --> 00:37:27,077 The Bible explicitly forbids homosexuality. �There's no gray area. 450 00:37:27,329 --> 00:37:32,000 Mm. �Well, you know, I don't think of them as homosexuals. 451 00:37:32,125 --> 00:37:34,586 I just think of them as other human beings that I love. 452 00:37:35,003 --> 00:37:38,799 You know, we're all just people made out of the same old dirt. 453 00:37:38,966 --> 00:37:40,968 And God didn't make any junk. 454 00:37:42,177 --> 00:37:44,177 Right, honey? 455 00:37:46,848 --> 00:37:52,771 Tammy? -Hmm? �Tam. -Hmm? �You can't... What are you doing? 456 00:37:52,896 --> 00:37:56,608 I'm changing the baby, honey. �You can't talk to him like that. 457 00:37:57,567 --> 00:38:02,614 That's the big boss man. We need him to like us. �Jim. -No, Tammy. 458 00:38:02,739 --> 00:38:07,369 Look, listen to me. I'm trying to build something here. �I'm not messing around. 459 00:38:07,494 --> 00:38:10,580 God told me He wants me to have what Pat has. 460 00:38:10,747 --> 00:38:13,917 But if you keep acting like that, if you keep talking to Falwell that way, 461 00:38:14,042 --> 00:38:17,713 I'm not gonna ever get there. �Well, God's been talking to me, too, you know, Jim? 462 00:38:17,879 --> 00:38:19,879 And He said that I gotta speak up. 463 00:38:20,674 --> 00:38:24,970 So, here goes. �You can't leave me at home all alone, 464 00:38:25,095 --> 00:38:27,681 feeling unloved, and useless. 465 00:38:29,141 --> 00:38:32,728 And He said that I belong on TV just as much as you do. 466 00:38:32,894 --> 00:38:35,480 And that I should sing and I should be funny. 467 00:38:35,605 --> 00:38:38,358 And I should talk about real things for grown-ups. 468 00:38:38,525 --> 00:38:40,777 Just, you know, just the way you do. 469 00:38:42,821 --> 00:38:48,702 And... �He says I'm not gonna tell people who's going to Hell, Jim. 470 00:38:49,995 --> 00:38:52,289 We're in the business of healing people. 471 00:38:55,125 --> 00:38:57,125 Yes. 472 00:38:58,003 --> 00:39:00,797 Jerry Falwell's a powerful man, Tammy Faye. 473 00:39:03,175 --> 00:39:05,175 Jim Bakker 474 00:39:06,303 --> 00:39:11,641 is a powerful man. �Jim Bakker. 475 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:18,857 Yes, he is, Tammy Faye Bakker. 476 00:39:20,734 --> 00:39:24,362 I'm so, so sorry. I forgot my own strength... 477 00:39:25,405 --> 00:39:30,033 and my manly duties. �It's okay. 478 00:39:31,078 --> 00:39:35,373 You know, we built CBN in four years and we could build our own in half that. 479 00:39:36,249 --> 00:39:38,249 Yes, I think we can. 480 00:39:39,544 --> 00:39:41,544 Oh, yeah, we can. 481 00:39:42,631 --> 00:39:45,133 Yes. 482 00:39:45,926 --> 00:39:52,307 Jim Bakker is gonna be a builder for Christ. �Oh, yes, he will. 483 00:39:52,432 --> 00:39:55,435 And Tammy Faye Bakker 484 00:39:55,602 --> 00:40:02,442 is gonna sing her gospel all around the world. �We are gonna spread His word. 485 00:40:02,984 --> 00:40:04,984 Oh, my! 486 00:40:07,531 --> 00:40:10,909 Coming to you from Praise The Lord studios in Charlotte, North Carolina, 487 00:40:11,034 --> 00:40:14,037 broadcasting live across this great nation. 488 00:40:14,830 --> 00:40:15,956 Praise The Lord television network 489 00:40:16,081 --> 00:40:19,126 presents our five-year anniversary Christmas special... 490 00:40:19,251 --> 00:40:23,711 the Jim and Tammy Show! �Ooh we're blest 491 00:40:24,381 --> 00:40:29,469 We are blest �Yes, we've got shelter clothing and strength 492 00:40:29,636 --> 00:40:34,891 We are blest �We're blest, we're blest, we're blest 493 00:40:35,058 --> 00:40:37,936 We are blest 494 00:40:38,103 --> 00:40:43,233 We don't deserve it but yet we are blest 495 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:48,903 We don't deserve it but yet we are blest �Hi, everybody! 496 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:56,955 Nice to see you. Hi! How are you? �Look at all of you! Wow! �My land! 497 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,541 What a beautiful audience! Hi, how are you doing? 498 00:40:59,666 --> 00:41:03,086 God has worked miracles! I want miracles for all of us! 499 00:41:03,253 --> 00:41:07,966 We've got a marvelous show for you today. Little Richard is here! �God loves you. 500 00:41:08,091 --> 00:41:12,345 He really does! �They are doing God's work teaching skills to the homeless. 501 00:41:12,554 --> 00:41:16,181 Providing housing for unwed mothers and handicapped children. 502 00:41:21,771 --> 00:41:25,609 PTL brings the word of God and Jesus Christ to the whole world. -That's it. 503 00:41:25,734 --> 00:41:28,153 God bless you, honey. -It's a powerful thing! 504 00:41:34,701 --> 00:41:39,623 Five years ago, the PTL network was little more than a prayer and a dream. 505 00:41:39,831 --> 00:41:42,167 Today, the nation's fourth largest network. 506 00:41:42,334 --> 00:41:47,088 We don't deserve it but yet we are blest 507 00:41:47,672 --> 00:41:51,801 We don't deserve it but yet we are blest 508 00:41:52,802 --> 00:41:56,348 Yes, people. We truly are blessed because there is no condemnation for them 509 00:41:56,473 --> 00:42:01,228 which are in Jesus Christ. �Therefore, if God is for us, who could be against us? 510 00:42:01,394 --> 00:42:05,857 Blessed are they that hunger and thirst for His glory, for they shall be filled. 511 00:42:06,024 --> 00:42:08,902 Blessed are the pure of heart, for they shall see God. 512 00:42:09,069 --> 00:42:13,031 We have gathered us into His kingdom and made us priests of God his Father. 513 00:42:13,198 --> 00:42:19,538 Give unto Him everlasting glory, He rules forever! Amen! �Amen! 514 00:42:19,663 --> 00:42:21,663 Wow! 515 00:42:23,917 --> 00:42:25,917 My land! 516 00:42:29,381 --> 00:42:33,633 Tammy Faye, ladies and gentlemen, Tammy Faye Bakker! 517 00:42:33,802 --> 00:42:37,472 And it's the happiest time of the year, it's Christmas! 518 00:42:38,265 --> 00:42:44,271 And remember, never forget it. �You know what I'm gonna say. God loves you. 519 00:42:44,437 --> 00:42:48,400 He really, really, really does. �Merry Christmas, everyone! 520 00:42:48,525 --> 00:42:52,988 Merry Christmas! -Bye-bye, everybody! �I'm Fletcher, Jim's right-hand man. 521 00:42:53,113 --> 00:42:55,448 Jim and Tammy are gonna be so happy to see you. 522 00:42:55,615 --> 00:42:58,410 I can't believe you've never made it down to the studios before. 523 00:42:58,535 --> 00:43:01,329 Well, the Carolinas are a long way from International Falls. 524 00:43:01,454 --> 00:43:03,707 Have you always been involved with the church, Mr. Fletcher? 525 00:43:03,832 --> 00:43:07,711 I've done all sorts of things. �Once, I was even a party clown. 526 00:43:07,877 --> 00:43:10,839 You don't believe me, but it's true. �Come, this way. Show's about to start. 527 00:43:10,964 --> 00:43:15,677 Party clown? �We'll get you set up. �But the penile implant of the inflatable type 528 00:43:15,802 --> 00:43:19,014 is the one that we see here. �Mm-hmm. And this is the newest one? 529 00:43:19,139 --> 00:43:22,183 Well, it is. And when the man wants to become erect, 530 00:43:22,976 --> 00:43:27,897 he simply reaches down and he squeezes that several times 531 00:43:28,064 --> 00:43:31,484 and the man becomes firm. �I think that's fantastic. 532 00:43:32,944 --> 00:43:35,155 Go ahead, audience, go ahead. 533 00:43:37,449 --> 00:43:39,242 Well, you know something else that's fantastic? 534 00:43:39,367 --> 00:43:43,621 I'm so excited I'm just beside myself. �I would like to introduce you 535 00:43:43,788 --> 00:43:49,042 to my mother and her husband, Rachel and Fred Grover. 536 00:43:49,169 --> 00:43:52,672 Stand up, everybody, stand up. �Come on. Stand up, 537 00:43:52,797 --> 00:43:54,797 that deserves a big ol' round of applause. 538 00:43:56,926 --> 00:43:58,926 Stand up, Mom. 539 00:44:04,517 --> 00:44:10,565 Thank you. �So, here's the house. �Isn't it beautiful? I just think it's so neat. 540 00:44:10,690 --> 00:44:13,777 Our ministry's building lots of houses on the PTL property. 541 00:44:13,943 --> 00:44:16,488 There's one with pregnant teens and one for kids with needs. 542 00:44:16,654 --> 00:44:20,200 It's all part of our mission to help people. �This is just wonderful, honey. 543 00:44:20,325 --> 00:44:23,328 Yeah, I'm so glad you guys are here. �I got you set up in the guest room 544 00:44:23,453 --> 00:44:26,122 and you can stay there until your new house is ready. 545 00:44:26,581 --> 00:44:32,754 Come on. Let me give you a tour. �This is the relaxation room. 546 00:44:33,797 --> 00:44:36,716 Oh, now that you're here, I'm just gonna bug you any time I want to. 547 00:44:36,883 --> 00:44:39,511 Oh, yeah, I'm gonna wake you up any hour of the night. 548 00:44:39,677 --> 00:44:42,317 I'm just so glad to have you here in the PTL property with me, Mom. 549 00:44:43,890 --> 00:44:47,978 All those people looking at me and clapping. �Oh, no. 550 00:44:48,103 --> 00:44:52,190 I don't appreciate being bamboozled like that. �It's love, Mom. 551 00:44:52,315 --> 00:44:57,862 Oh, yeah, that's God's love. �Every day, I have rapture. �Rapture? 552 00:44:57,987 --> 00:45:01,616 You just spent an hour talking about pumping penises. 553 00:45:03,868 --> 00:45:05,370 Well, these things happen to people 554 00:45:05,495 --> 00:45:11,376 and I'm just being honest about the way that life is. �And I'm providing solutions 555 00:45:11,543 --> 00:45:16,298 to make marriages better. �Tam, where's the privy? -On the left. �Okay. 556 00:45:16,423 --> 00:45:20,341 Sit down, Mom. �Who paid for this house, Tammy? 557 00:45:20,468 --> 00:45:23,763 Well, the ministry makes lots of houses. �We've got one for unwed mothers. 558 00:45:23,888 --> 00:45:25,265 Wait till you see Kevin's House. 559 00:45:25,390 --> 00:45:27,809 Oh, yeah, that one's for kids with special needs. 560 00:45:27,976 --> 00:45:31,938 And it's named after a sweet little boy named Kevin. �Oh, he's 13 years old 561 00:45:32,063 --> 00:45:35,275 and he is the sweetest, tiniest little thing you ever saw. 562 00:45:35,442 --> 00:45:39,571 His hands are attached to his shoulders and he has no arms at all. 563 00:45:39,696 --> 00:45:43,739 Bless his little heart. �Let me show you to your room. 564 00:45:46,619 --> 00:45:48,204 Okay, everyone, let's see if I can do this. 565 00:45:48,329 --> 00:45:50,832 So, now, you're gonna go in a circle. 566 00:45:50,957 --> 00:45:55,378 Oh, mine looks a little bit like it had an explosion. �You know what I'm gonna do? 567 00:45:55,503 --> 00:45:59,257 'Cause normally when I use frosting, it's not this thick. �I'm just gonna do that. 568 00:45:59,382 --> 00:46:00,675 I think it's gonna be pretty. 569 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,385 You know, next time, I'm gonna make you guys my fudge. 570 00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:04,471 That's the best. I think I've only made that, 571 00:46:04,596 --> 00:46:07,182 you know, on the show, like, a couple times. Mm. 572 00:46:07,307 --> 00:46:10,143 I know! I wish we had smell-o-vision, so you could smell this. 573 00:46:10,268 --> 00:46:12,268 This is really nice. 574 00:46:18,193 --> 00:46:24,322 Oh! �That one. How much time do we have? 10 minutes, Tammy. �Oh, goodness! 575 00:46:25,366 --> 00:46:29,204 Hey, Mom. Did you see the show? �Wasn't that fun? 576 00:46:29,329 --> 00:46:32,165 I'm not sure what's so Christian about decorating a cupcake. 577 00:46:32,332 --> 00:46:37,754 Oh, Mom, you're so funny. �Have you seen this? -Hmm? �From The Observer. 578 00:46:37,879 --> 00:46:43,468 Picture of you and Jim on the front. �Ah. "PTL's Bakker diverts ministry funds 579 00:46:43,635 --> 00:46:48,513 "for new building project." �What's that about? 580 00:46:49,265 --> 00:46:52,519 Well, you can't believe everything that you read in the newspapers, Mom. 581 00:46:52,644 --> 00:46:54,229 How's Fred doing? Is he settling in okay? 582 00:46:54,354 --> 00:46:57,649 Smoke and fire idn't just the providence of Hell, girl. 583 00:46:57,815 --> 00:46:59,692 You know when I saw that clipping with my face on it, 584 00:46:59,817 --> 00:47:01,817 I thought for a second that you were proud of me. 585 00:47:02,779 --> 00:47:06,366 I'm hearing there are articles like this in the paper every day. 586 00:47:07,033 --> 00:47:11,621 The secular press hates us because we're winning millions of souls for Jesus. 587 00:47:12,664 --> 00:47:18,628 Oh, Tammy Faye. �You follow blindly. �In the end, all you are is blind. 588 00:47:21,297 --> 00:47:27,260 I don't know how to do it. �I just need it done. That is your job. �Yes. 589 00:47:27,387 --> 00:47:30,555 Yes. �God bless you. 590 00:47:42,068 --> 00:47:44,195 You wonder why I don't snuggle you. 591 00:47:45,738 --> 00:47:48,908 Maybe it's all that goopy stuff on you. 592 00:47:49,951 --> 00:47:54,289 Well, it's better than spending the night with an alligator. 593 00:47:55,415 --> 00:48:02,213 Oh. �That newspaper. �She saved it like it was a little treasure. 594 00:48:03,214 --> 00:48:05,508 It made me feel so rotten. 595 00:48:06,676 --> 00:48:11,723 Well, your mother's never been all that nice to you. �Yeah. 596 00:48:11,848 --> 00:48:13,848 Some people just don't change. 597 00:48:14,851 --> 00:48:17,312 We're not doing anything wrong, though. 598 00:48:25,570 --> 00:48:27,570 Is that a question? 599 00:48:28,656 --> 00:48:30,656 No. 600 00:48:46,716 --> 00:48:51,554 Tammy, sometimes, I fear that what God wants of me is beyond my abilities. 601 00:48:52,472 --> 00:48:57,143 I'm building so much for Him in His name and for His people. 602 00:48:57,894 --> 00:49:01,940 Yeah. -And... �And He's giving me more visions every day. 603 00:49:02,065 --> 00:49:07,070 Giving me more orders all the time. �And then, every day, these creditors... 604 00:49:08,863 --> 00:49:12,241 and the people who are asking me to save them. 605 00:49:14,577 --> 00:49:19,705 I'm only one man. �I'm only one man, Tammy. �Oh, Jim. 606 00:49:20,375 --> 00:49:25,127 Well, I only need one man. �You're enough, honey. 607 00:49:26,506 --> 00:49:28,506 Okay, come on. Come to bed. 608 00:49:29,384 --> 00:49:34,430 Honey, it's been two months, and we said we were gonna try to have another baby. 609 00:49:34,597 --> 00:49:39,185 Tammy, I need your help. �I need you not to get in my way. 610 00:49:39,352 --> 00:49:44,355 And I need you to not ask more of me than I can give. �Okay. 611 00:49:44,857 --> 00:49:46,857 Do you wanna talk some more? 612 00:49:52,740 --> 00:49:56,909 Can you... �Can you talk to God? 613 00:49:57,995 --> 00:50:00,039 I'm so tired and... 614 00:50:02,667 --> 00:50:06,919 Yes? �I'll call you right back. 615 00:50:07,672 --> 00:50:09,672 I'll take it downstairs. 616 00:50:21,227 --> 00:50:25,314 Don't give up �You're on the brink 617 00:50:25,481 --> 00:50:31,654 Of a miracle �Don't give up 618 00:50:31,821 --> 00:50:36,200 Remember you're not alone 619 00:50:37,702 --> 00:50:42,081 People, don't give up You're on the brink 620 00:50:42,248 --> 00:50:45,626 Of a miracle 621 00:50:45,793 --> 00:50:49,797 Don't give up on the brink 622 00:50:49,964 --> 00:50:56,177 Of a miracle �Don't give in 623 00:50:56,304 --> 00:51:02,226 God is still on the throne �He's on His throne 624 00:51:02,643 --> 00:51:08,524 Don't give up �You nailed it. �Really? 625 00:51:08,649 --> 00:51:11,235 This is sublime. This is top drawer. 626 00:51:12,195 --> 00:51:17,325 You really think so, Gary? �I know so. �Your opinion means so much to me. 627 00:51:17,450 --> 00:51:19,285 I haven't been this excited about working with an artist 628 00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:24,373 since I produced Monster Mash. �That's really sweet. 629 00:51:24,916 --> 00:51:28,959 We could get a Grammy. �Really? -Really. 630 00:51:34,967 --> 00:51:39,136 Tammy, it's time to go. Time for the shoot. �Come on. We're... 631 00:51:39,347 --> 00:51:41,766 Can you hear me? Can you hear me? �Yeah. -We've been looking for you, 632 00:51:41,891 --> 00:51:46,435 so, let's go. We're live in 15 minutes. �Hey, hey, Jim, how are ya? 633 00:51:46,854 --> 00:51:50,733 Blessed, Gary, blessed. �I'm sorry, Jim. You know, I got lost in the music. 634 00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:55,238 Gary here, he just makes it all so awesome. �Wait till you hear it. 635 00:51:55,363 --> 00:51:57,949 You're going to love it. �No, it's her voice, Jim. 636 00:51:58,074 --> 00:52:01,327 I just turn the knobs here. She sings like an angel. 637 00:52:02,537 --> 00:52:05,331 Well, I'm never giving you back to Nashville, oh, no! 638 00:52:06,249 --> 00:52:10,211 It's such a beautiful way to connect, Jim. �It's God's voice through my voice. 639 00:52:10,336 --> 00:52:16,676 To the world's ears. �The things you say, Gary. �Tammy! You're not camera ready. 640 00:52:16,801 --> 00:52:18,678 You know everybody's waiting for you and it's a big day. 641 00:52:18,803 --> 00:52:21,305 We gotta do 400 K today. Can we shake a leg, please? 642 00:52:21,472 --> 00:52:27,103 Thank you. I'm sorry to drag her away, Gary. �Okay! �Shake a leg, please. 643 00:52:27,228 --> 00:52:34,149 Sure thing, Mister. �Thank you. �Jim. -Thank you, Gary. �Tam? -Mm? 644 00:52:39,198 --> 00:52:43,826 Ta-da! I made it! 30 seconds, everyone! 645 00:52:44,579 --> 00:52:46,579 Light on one, please! 646 00:52:49,250 --> 00:52:53,627 Hmm. How's that? �Yeah. 647 00:52:56,132 --> 00:53:02,388 And we're live in five, four, three, two... 648 00:53:06,517 --> 00:53:10,771 Tammy and I are undergoing the most vicious attacks 649 00:53:10,938 --> 00:53:13,232 in the history of this ministry. 650 00:53:14,525 --> 00:53:18,613 By now, perhaps you think that we should be used to these attacks. 651 00:53:19,572 --> 00:53:23,242 But it's been going on for a long time, Tammy. �Oh, yeah, that's right, Jim. 652 00:53:23,367 --> 00:53:25,369 It's been going on a long time. 653 00:53:26,245 --> 00:53:29,123 We are being persecuted by the secular press 654 00:53:29,290 --> 00:53:33,753 who simply do not want you to receive the word of God. 655 00:53:34,545 --> 00:53:39,884 It is a witch hunt. �And on top of this, we have numerous past due bills... 656 00:53:40,009 --> 00:53:43,846 that must be paid if we want to save the entire network 657 00:53:43,971 --> 00:53:46,849 and stay on the air delivering the word of God every day. 658 00:53:47,016 --> 00:53:50,061 So, now is the time for our prayer warriors 659 00:53:50,227 --> 00:53:53,105 to rise up because we are in a war. 660 00:53:53,898 --> 00:53:58,194 You know, Tammy and I, we just hate to do this, 661 00:54:00,071 --> 00:54:05,576 but if every person watching could double their pledge right now, 662 00:54:06,452 --> 00:54:11,874 that way, we can save the word of God. �I'm talking about salvation. 663 00:54:11,999 --> 00:54:16,796 Yours, mine, PTL's, the entire world's. 664 00:54:16,963 --> 00:54:23,177 So, together, if we agree together, let's give the devil a black eye. 665 00:54:24,553 --> 00:54:30,393 Oh, the phones are ringing. Oh. �Praise Jesus and praise you! 666 00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:34,564 And God bless you! God bless you! �Hallelujah! 667 00:54:34,689 --> 00:54:38,025 And don't forget, remember, God loves you. 668 00:54:38,567 --> 00:54:41,904 He really, really does. -He really does. 669 00:54:45,449 --> 00:54:48,202 Cut! Very good, everyone. �That was not bad. How was that? 670 00:54:48,327 --> 00:54:53,124 How was it? -Uh, that was good, Jim. �We need to talk. Now. -Jim, it was great. 671 00:54:53,290 --> 00:54:55,751 We're still gonna be over budget on that... 672 00:54:59,088 --> 00:55:04,174 I just want the sleeves a little shorter. �Everything's about proportion. 673 00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:08,305 Okay, you ready to see? Close your eyes. 674 00:55:10,349 --> 00:55:16,480 I love it, Mother. �Oh, Sissy, you look so beautiful, baby. �Thank you. 675 00:55:16,605 --> 00:55:20,484 Golly Moses, this thing weighs a ton. �Oh, goodness. 676 00:55:20,609 --> 00:55:22,445 Why do you have to do so much shopping, Tam? 677 00:55:22,570 --> 00:55:24,905 Well, I have to get my exercise somehow. 678 00:55:25,072 --> 00:55:28,284 And, plus, I don't wanna balloon up with the new baby coming. 679 00:55:28,451 --> 00:55:32,330 Hey, everyone, come here, come here. �Now, when she comes out, 680 00:55:32,455 --> 00:55:35,207 make sure you all tell her how great she looks, okay? 681 00:55:35,374 --> 00:55:36,834 You know, she hasn't had enough love in her life, 682 00:55:36,959 --> 00:55:40,087 and it's time that we all change that. 683 00:55:41,422 --> 00:55:43,422 Go on. 684 00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:53,976 Good grief. �You look so good! Come here. You do. 685 00:55:54,143 --> 00:55:57,855 Right? �Okay, get up on the pedestal. �I am not getting up on the pedestal. 686 00:55:57,980 --> 00:56:01,984 Come on, Grandma. -Come on. �Come on. -Don't push me. �Oh! 687 00:56:02,109 --> 00:56:06,447 Isn't it fun? We look like triplets. �I look like a bear. 688 00:56:06,614 --> 00:56:12,951 You look like a beautiful bear. �Oh. It's too much. -No. �I already have a coat. 689 00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:15,079 I don't need it. 690 00:56:15,831 --> 00:56:18,918 Why are you so unwilling to accept the love that God has for you? 691 00:56:20,002 --> 00:56:23,714 Can you pay for this? �The pledges are rolling in, Mom. 692 00:56:23,881 --> 00:56:29,970 People really like the show and they're very happy to accept the love. 693 00:56:31,722 --> 00:56:37,019 Take the coat, Mom. �Just take the coat. �Well... 694 00:56:37,144 --> 00:56:39,144 Please, for me. 695 00:56:40,481 --> 00:56:44,902 Well, it is attractive, and it's very, very warm. 696 00:56:46,153 --> 00:56:49,115 I just feel like a million dollars. �It looks great, Jim. -You think? 697 00:56:49,240 --> 00:56:52,451 Yeah, very subtle. �I didn't feel a thing. Not a thing. 698 00:56:52,576 --> 00:56:55,413 And I played golf the next day. �So, we'll have a girl's night. 699 00:56:55,538 --> 00:56:57,623 We'll go to Maciano's, get some pasta. �Yes, yes. 700 00:56:57,748 --> 00:56:59,375 I love that place. -Yeah? Oh, wait. 701 00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:02,002 You know, why don't you go ahead, I'm gonna catch up. 702 00:57:02,211 --> 00:57:06,338 I'm gonna go give Jim a kiss. -Okay. �See ya. 703 00:57:06,674 --> 00:57:10,219 And that reporter from The Charlotte Observer been poking around. 704 00:57:10,344 --> 00:57:13,014 Calling some of our secretaries, asking for comments. 705 00:57:13,139 --> 00:57:17,852 I'm gonna put a picture of that guy's butt... on a punching bag 706 00:57:18,018 --> 00:57:20,187 and I'm gonna use it for practice. 707 00:57:21,355 --> 00:57:24,775 We need to talk about the deficit we are running on the expansion to studio... 708 00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:27,778 Phooey! Fletcher, no, you're such a worrywart. 709 00:57:27,945 --> 00:57:31,991 We're gonna do a telethon next week. �The partners will not let us down. 710 00:57:32,116 --> 00:57:36,203 Wanda, my nose is shiny. �Mm-mm. -Yes, it is. �No. -I'm telling you, Wanda. 711 00:57:36,328 --> 00:57:39,457 It's fine. -A little more powder, please. �Your nose isn't shiny, Jim. 712 00:57:39,582 --> 00:57:43,878 You're just being fussy. �Oh. -Wanda, tell him he's fussy. �You're fussy, Pastor Jim. 713 00:57:44,003 --> 00:57:47,129 Oh, how dare you. �You're wearing as much as Tammy these days. 714 00:57:48,507 --> 00:57:50,507 Careful, you'll end up looking like a clown. 715 00:57:52,094 --> 00:57:55,681 Stop it! You can't talk... -But you know it's true. �You know it's true. -Fletcher. 716 00:57:55,806 --> 00:57:59,185 You got Wanda laughing. �She's not laughing. What are you laughing at? 717 00:57:59,310 --> 00:58:06,066 It's not funny. �You guys! �Oh, I got a new one. 718 00:58:06,233 --> 00:58:10,071 Penny, cover your ears. �What did the leper say to the prostitute? 719 00:58:10,196 --> 00:58:15,490 Oh, boy. -What? "You can keep the tip." �Oh, shit. 720 00:58:16,410 --> 00:58:19,079 Jim, you mean jerk! You're gonna pay for that. 721 00:58:19,246 --> 00:58:21,246 I went too far. I went too far. I'm sorry. 722 00:58:22,458 --> 00:58:25,795 I got you now. I got you now. -Wanda! Wanda! �Wanda, come here. 723 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,547 Come here and powder his nose. �No! No! -"Wanda, help. "Wanda. Wanda. 724 00:58:31,258 --> 00:58:33,258 "My nose is shiny." 725 00:58:34,178 --> 00:58:37,389 Let me powder your nose. Let me powder your nose. 726 00:58:53,155 --> 00:58:57,743 Somebody touched me �Hallelujah 727 00:58:57,868 --> 00:59:01,538 Somebody touched me 728 00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:06,460 Oh, I was blind But praise His name 729 00:59:06,627 --> 00:59:09,171 I now can see 730 00:59:10,965 --> 00:59:15,052 I was in darkness 731 00:59:15,219 --> 00:59:19,348 When Jesus found me 732 00:59:19,515 --> 00:59:23,394 But since He touched me 733 00:59:25,604 --> 00:59:31,402 I now am free 734 00:59:32,528 --> 00:59:37,656 Wow. �That was beautiful. That was lovely, Tam. �Gary. 735 00:59:38,450 --> 00:59:42,411 Aren't you glad He touched you? �Truly. Yeah. 736 00:59:44,581 --> 00:59:50,129 Hmm. �Well, this is perfect. I love this. �Well, it's all you, Tam, it's all you. 737 00:59:50,254 --> 00:59:54,508 Oh, no. No, no. You know I couldn't do this without you. 738 00:59:54,675 --> 00:59:58,220 You know, your voice makes me feel closer to Him. 739 00:59:58,971 --> 01:00:00,973 Like He's right here. 740 01:00:02,766 --> 01:00:04,766 He is. 741 01:00:05,936 --> 01:00:07,936 Tam... 742 01:00:09,106 --> 01:00:13,319 when was the last time that you were touched 743 01:00:15,029 --> 01:00:17,573 in the way that a woman like you should be touched? 744 01:00:18,699 --> 01:00:21,243 Oh, well... 745 01:00:22,619 --> 01:00:25,912 I'm eight months pregnant, Gary, so back it up from there. 746 01:00:26,749 --> 01:00:30,461 Does his touch tell you how talented you are? 747 01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:37,634 Gary. �Do his eyes tell you how beautiful you are? 748 01:00:40,971 --> 01:00:45,559 Does he listen to you? �Does he hear how amazing you are? 749 01:00:46,602 --> 01:00:51,899 Tammy. �Yes. �Can I touch you like that? 750 01:00:52,775 --> 01:00:57,071 In that way that you should be touched. 751 01:01:01,492 --> 01:01:05,829 You can kiss me on my neck. -Okay. �Don't leave a mark, okay? -Yeah. 752 01:01:19,051 --> 01:01:23,261 Come here. �I wanna hold you. 753 01:01:28,936 --> 01:01:33,563 Oh, no. Oh, no. -What? �Leave them on. -All right. 754 01:01:34,274 --> 01:01:40,948 Oh, you're so beautiful, Tammy. �Oh, you're so big. �Oh, yeah. �I like this. 755 01:01:41,073 --> 01:01:43,073 Yeah. 756 01:01:47,329 --> 01:01:51,540 What? What's wrong? �My water broke. 757 01:01:54,753 --> 01:01:58,964 Mm. �You're so beautiful. 758 01:02:06,765 --> 01:02:08,765 He's so precious, Jim. 759 01:02:18,026 --> 01:02:20,026 Congratulations, Jim. 760 01:02:37,963 --> 01:02:40,966 I understand that Gary drove you here? 761 01:02:42,676 --> 01:02:45,304 We called the studio, Jim, but you were on the air. 762 01:02:46,263 --> 01:02:51,475 Tammy was real upset that you weren't here for it. �No... 763 01:02:51,935 --> 01:02:56,857 I'm just wonderful, Jim. I'm... I'm so wonderful. 764 01:02:58,775 --> 01:03:04,239 We announced his birth on air. We got a real surge in pledges. �Praise the Lord. 765 01:03:04,364 --> 01:03:08,366 We're gonna get that expansion in Studio 3, thanks to this little miracle. 766 01:03:08,744 --> 01:03:13,081 Hmm. Congrats, Jim. �This is such a day of joy. 767 01:03:15,918 --> 01:03:17,586 A day of celebration, 768 01:03:17,711 --> 01:03:22,633 but I just can't help the feeling that something else is going on here. 769 01:03:24,551 --> 01:03:26,553 That something depraved 770 01:03:27,679 --> 01:03:29,679 taints this day. 771 01:03:31,391 --> 01:03:34,978 Depraved is a very big word, Jim. 772 01:03:35,771 --> 01:03:37,814 But it's a fitting word, isn't it, Tammy? 773 01:03:42,778 --> 01:03:44,778 Yes, Jim. 774 01:03:51,912 --> 01:03:55,415 Well, Fletcher's waiting outside 775 01:03:56,250 --> 01:03:58,669 and he'll get this man back to Nashville, where he belongs. 776 01:03:58,794 --> 01:04:02,673 Oh, no. Jim, please, no. -Tammy. �Please. -Tammy, I suggest 777 01:04:02,798 --> 01:04:04,798 you don't talk right now. 778 01:04:05,968 --> 01:04:07,968 Tammy. 779 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:13,267 Tammy, I hope you're not gonna let him do this. �Tammy? 780 01:04:13,392 --> 01:04:16,603 I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. 781 01:04:17,771 --> 01:04:19,771 Sorry. 782 01:04:22,067 --> 01:04:24,067 I'm so sorry, Jim. 783 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,240 I'm so sorry. 784 01:04:39,418 --> 01:04:43,255 Can you take the baby away from her, please? �Okay. All right. 785 01:04:47,134 --> 01:04:49,636 Let me get you something to help you sleep, okay, honey? 786 01:05:16,663 --> 01:05:20,125 Yes. That's exactly what I told you. 787 01:05:20,459 --> 01:05:25,339 Formal living quarters for some of the staff. �Wow! �Yes. -So ornate. 788 01:05:25,464 --> 01:05:29,676 Inspired by European architect. �And over here, 789 01:05:29,843 --> 01:05:34,932 that's the first Christian water park. "We are fishers of men." 790 01:05:35,057 --> 01:05:39,770 That's the bait. �That's good. �I wanted to show you this, too. 791 01:05:39,895 --> 01:05:45,400 See, over here... Yes. �This is Old Jerusalem. 792 01:05:45,609 --> 01:05:51,988 And it's a stunning replica. �Oh, it looks beautiful, Jim. �Yeah. -So detailed. 793 01:05:53,909 --> 01:05:59,164 You know what they say about details? God is in 'em. �Yes. -That's right. 794 01:05:59,831 --> 01:06:01,625 You know, for as long as I can remember, Roe, 795 01:06:01,750 --> 01:06:05,504 I've dreamed of a vacation destination for Christian families to come to. 796 01:06:05,671 --> 01:06:07,798 A place where they can, um... 797 01:06:08,548 --> 01:06:10,968 Hey, Tam. �A place where they know 798 01:06:11,093 --> 01:06:14,137 that their children are gonna be safe, you know? �Sure. 799 01:06:14,262 --> 01:06:18,016 We're selling partnerships to fund it. �And that way, the partners, 800 01:06:18,141 --> 01:06:24,564 they feel the sense of ownership and a pride in this Christian paradise 801 01:06:25,107 --> 01:06:26,817 that they've built. 802 01:06:26,942 --> 01:06:33,448 Uh... Um, how many partnerships do you have to sell in order to fund it? 803 01:06:33,573 --> 01:06:35,573 Hmm. Well... 804 01:06:39,121 --> 01:06:45,252 a lot. �Yes. �You know, because the partnerships we've already sold, 805 01:06:46,795 --> 01:06:49,923 they've had to go to funding other projects. 806 01:06:50,841 --> 01:06:55,137 I see. -Yes. �But I've been praying on it. 807 01:06:55,262 --> 01:06:59,347 I've been hoping that you could advance PTL just a little bit of credit. 808 01:07:00,142 --> 01:07:04,062 Just to get the bulldozers moving, you know? 809 01:07:07,858 --> 01:07:12,779 Hi, honey. �Uh, this is Roe Messner. 810 01:07:12,946 --> 01:07:18,076 He's the developer of Heritage USA. �Well, I'm not the developer yet. �Yeah. 811 01:07:18,201 --> 01:07:20,201 Hi. 812 01:07:24,249 --> 01:07:28,545 The doctors have had her on so many loopy things 813 01:07:28,962 --> 01:07:34,926 since Jamie Charles was born. �Pills to make her normal. Pills to make her sleep. 814 01:07:35,093 --> 01:07:37,093 Um, as long as she's feelin' better. 815 01:07:38,430 --> 01:07:40,599 Yes. Amen. 816 01:07:41,975 --> 01:07:46,688 I love what you're trying to do here, Jim. �Mm. -I do. 817 01:07:46,813 --> 01:07:51,065 I spent some summers with my wife at Knott's Berry Farm. 818 01:07:51,610 --> 01:07:56,573 Every year the jellies got less and less fresh. �Mm. -And I'm convinced 819 01:07:56,740 --> 01:08:02,118 it's 'cause they started hiring the wrong kinds of people to make the preserves. 820 01:08:02,829 --> 01:08:06,792 I knew you were my man, Roe. �But, uh... 821 01:08:07,959 --> 01:08:13,048 I'm not a gambler, Mr. Bakker. �Oh, well... -Oh, this isn't gambling, Roe. 822 01:08:14,299 --> 01:08:19,596 Oh, no, it's faith. �I have seen him perform miracles. 823 01:08:20,555 --> 01:08:24,643 Huh. �I haven't had anyone claim to be a faith healer to my face 824 01:08:24,810 --> 01:08:28,689 since I was about six years old. 825 01:08:28,814 --> 01:08:33,318 Well, buildings are miracles. �Aren't they, Roe? 826 01:08:33,443 --> 01:08:38,907 Well, it's amazing anything ever gets built, that's for sure. �Yeah. 827 01:08:39,032 --> 01:08:44,621 This is beautiful. �We must take a leap of faith for God. 828 01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:50,961 Especially when the Devil is makin' us doubt. �God's on our side, Roe. 829 01:08:52,504 --> 01:08:57,551 Every time we fall, God proves His love again 830 01:08:58,468 --> 01:09:00,804 and we come back. 831 01:09:00,929 --> 01:09:06,309 We come back bigger, and stronger, and better. 832 01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:17,612 "All things work for good to them that love God, 833 01:09:18,822 --> 01:09:25,412 "to them who are called according to His purpose." 834 01:09:33,420 --> 01:09:36,089 And I called you, Roe. 835 01:09:49,436 --> 01:09:51,479 You're welcome. 836 01:09:55,108 --> 01:09:57,193 You're owed a "thank you"? 837 01:09:58,570 --> 01:10:05,118 He was nowhere near saying yes until I sat down. �Oh, yes, to flirt with him. 838 01:10:09,915 --> 01:10:11,917 Are you gonna divorce me, Jim? 839 01:10:13,001 --> 01:10:15,001 I don't know. 840 01:10:16,338 --> 01:10:18,338 I should. 841 01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:25,219 But God hates divorce. �It ruined your mother. 842 01:10:26,181 --> 01:10:29,935 It'll do the same to you. �You stopped paying attention to me, Jim. 843 01:10:30,060 --> 01:10:32,896 You broke faith with me, Tammy! 844 01:10:33,063 --> 01:10:37,818 Gary, he told me that I was beautiful and that I was talented. 845 01:10:37,943 --> 01:10:40,487 And he wanted me, Jim. �Don't touch me! 846 01:10:40,612 --> 01:10:46,076 Gary wanted me, Jim, in ways that you don't. �Oh, my goodness. 847 01:10:46,201 --> 01:10:50,914 He was my friend. �You know, I got a letter this week, Tammy. 848 01:10:51,081 --> 01:10:55,251 From the President. �The President of the United States, 849 01:10:55,418 --> 01:10:57,879 Ronald Reagan himself, wrote me a personal letter 850 01:10:58,046 --> 01:11:02,008 thanking me for my support in his election! 851 01:11:02,884 --> 01:11:05,553 I'm an important man, Tammy Faye! 852 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,516 And people don't treat important men the way that you treated me. 853 01:11:12,060 --> 01:11:14,060 I'm gonna clear my head, I'm gonna pray. 854 01:11:15,438 --> 01:11:17,438 I'm gonna think about what I want. 855 01:11:22,904 --> 01:11:24,904 Jim? 856 01:11:47,095 --> 01:11:50,807 Oh, God. How can I fix this? 857 01:11:53,977 --> 01:11:55,977 God? 858 01:11:58,106 --> 01:12:02,567 Where'd you go? �Where are you? 859 01:12:03,278 --> 01:12:05,278 Why can't I feel you? 860 01:12:08,033 --> 01:12:10,033 Where are you? 861 01:12:11,703 --> 01:12:14,039 Oh... 862 01:12:17,042 --> 01:12:23,923 Where are you? �Tammy? Tammy, it's all right. �Jim. -I'm here. I'm here. 863 01:12:24,174 --> 01:12:26,926 It's all right. Shh. It's all right. 864 01:12:31,890 --> 01:12:35,894 Um... �Tammy, I, um... 865 01:12:37,062 --> 01:12:40,565 I prayed on it. And, um... 866 01:12:41,649 --> 01:12:47,945 What? �You know, maybe I've been a better builder than I've been a husband. 867 01:12:50,533 --> 01:12:54,954 Yeah. -Yes. �But I know for certain 868 01:12:55,705 --> 01:13:01,793 that you are the only woman on Earth who understands me. 869 01:13:02,295 --> 01:13:07,801 Oh, honey. �It makes me so happy that you're saying that. 870 01:13:08,009 --> 01:13:13,723 Tammy. -Baby. �I'm sorry. 871 01:13:14,724 --> 01:13:18,394 Oh... 872 01:13:19,729 --> 01:13:24,315 You really hurt me. �I know, Jim. 873 01:13:25,443 --> 01:13:31,032 And I think you have to apologize. �I'm sorry. Oh, I am so sorry, Jim. 874 01:13:31,616 --> 01:13:37,163 To the partners. �Mm? -On air. 875 01:13:39,165 --> 01:13:41,165 Today. 876 01:13:43,336 --> 01:13:45,336 Oh. 877 01:13:45,630 --> 01:13:50,802 I learned the best lesson in my whole life 878 01:13:50,969 --> 01:13:56,264 because of something terrible that I did that I cannot take back. 879 01:13:57,475 --> 01:14:02,897 I learned how much I love my husband, how much I care for my husband. 880 01:14:04,065 --> 01:14:08,653 And I learned a lesson of loneliness such as I never experienced in my whole life. 881 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:18,246 All of a sudden, I realized that there was a lot more to marriage 882 01:14:18,371 --> 01:14:20,665 than just the sparkles. 883 01:14:22,542 --> 01:14:24,627 We're with you, Tammy! 884 01:14:25,128 --> 01:14:27,128 PTL. -PTL. 885 01:14:27,255 --> 01:14:30,216 How can I help you? -Ah. Bless you. 886 01:14:35,722 --> 01:14:38,933 Because of our satellite, from this moment on, 887 01:14:39,100 --> 01:14:44,272 the PTL Television Network plans to broadcast 24 hours a day 888 01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:50,570 till the second coming of Christ. �Jesus keeps on takin' me higher and higher 889 01:14:50,737 --> 01:14:53,740 Higher and higher Higher and higher 890 01:14:54,282 --> 01:14:57,869 Jesus keeps on takin' me higher and higher 891 01:14:58,036 --> 01:15:03,875 Higher and higher Higher and higher �Hi, everybody! 892 01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:09,506 God has a fixed law of giving. �He gives me a shove Yeah �If you're not giving, 893 01:15:09,631 --> 01:15:15,178 you cannot expect to have abundancy coming back to you. �If you aren't giving, 894 01:15:15,303 --> 01:15:18,973 you're gonna have a harvest of misery! �You're gonna have 895 01:15:19,098 --> 01:15:23,102 a harvest of pain! -PTL. �You're gonna have a harvest of sickness! 896 01:15:23,269 --> 01:15:24,437 If you can't go to Jerusalem, 897 01:15:24,562 --> 01:15:26,940 you could come to Heritage and you could go to the Upper Room. 898 01:15:27,065 --> 01:15:31,444 Exactly what you could see in Jerusalem. �Except you don't have to get on a plane. 899 01:15:31,569 --> 01:15:35,448 You know, if everyone watching could double their pledge just for one month... 900 01:15:35,615 --> 01:15:38,409 If you haven't sent your pledge for $15 a month, 901 01:15:38,576 --> 01:15:42,372 do it now and I want to send you Susie Moppet puppets. 902 01:15:42,538 --> 01:15:48,753 God becomes your source when you give and you sow in his kingdom. 903 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,382 It works. �Higher, higher, higher 904 01:15:53,383 --> 01:15:58,304 Whoo �Wow �Whoo 905 01:15:58,429 --> 01:16:01,933 The PTL TV network is carrying out a master plan... 906 01:16:02,100 --> 01:16:03,768 opening centers all across the country 907 01:16:03,893 --> 01:16:06,479 to provide food, clothing, furniture, and job bank centers. 908 01:16:06,604 --> 01:16:09,649 Jesus keeps on leadin' me higher and higher 909 01:16:14,529 --> 01:16:18,867 Higher, higher Higher, higher �Hi, everybody. 910 01:16:18,992 --> 01:16:25,206 Higher, higher Higher, higher �Higher, higher Whoo 911 01:16:25,373 --> 01:16:30,712 Higher, higher, higher Whoo �Jesus keeps on leadin' me higher and higher 912 01:16:30,837 --> 01:16:36,217 I've seen the rich and I've seen people with little who are more blessed 913 01:16:36,342 --> 01:16:39,470 than the millionaires that I've known who are worried sick 914 01:16:39,595 --> 01:16:41,347 'cause the stock market doesn't know what it's doing! 915 01:16:41,472 --> 01:16:42,932 It's going up, it's going down! 916 01:16:43,057 --> 01:16:47,935 But people who have sown seed in the word of God, their stock is always up! 917 01:16:48,062 --> 01:16:50,815 Higher and higher 918 01:16:57,113 --> 01:16:59,949 That's why we chose this plot. �And with the help of your investment, 919 01:17:00,074 --> 01:17:02,618 we could build a shopping complex around the hotel 920 01:17:02,785 --> 01:17:05,914 and then we're going to have a trolley. �Mm. 921 01:17:06,039 --> 01:17:08,333 It's gonna wrap around the whole place, 922 01:17:08,499 --> 01:17:12,170 making stops at everywhere there at Heritage Island, the Heritage Grand, 923 01:17:12,295 --> 01:17:18,885 and then here at what is going to be our coliseum. �We're gonna have a coliseum. 924 01:17:19,010 --> 01:17:23,348 Coliseum. -Yes. �You planning on sacrificing Christians? 925 01:17:24,140 --> 01:17:30,813 Oh, no. No. �Oh, Jerry, no. We rise again in our coliseum. 926 01:17:30,980 --> 01:17:35,360 This is, uh, gonna be Christian rock concerts. �Something for the kids. 927 01:17:35,485 --> 01:17:39,280 I really wish you wouldn't encourage these blasphemers. 928 01:17:42,450 --> 01:17:45,286 Isn't it beautiful? -It really is. Mm-hmm. 929 01:17:46,037 --> 01:17:52,418 The trees, the oxygen is... �Are you cold? �Are you... 930 01:17:52,543 --> 01:17:57,882 Stupid question. Of course you're not cold. �Sorry. -Oh, I'm super. 931 01:18:03,805 --> 01:18:07,767 So, what do you think, Reverend? �We would be tickled pink to have your support. 932 01:18:07,934 --> 01:18:11,312 Jim? -Yes? �The coalition that we delivered to Reagan, 933 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,481 Vice President Bush... 934 01:18:13,648 --> 01:18:19,235 well, he's counting on us doing the same thing for him in '88. �Um... 935 01:18:19,612 --> 01:18:22,240 You know that Pat called me 936 01:18:22,407 --> 01:18:26,035 and he told me that he's thinking about making a bid for President. 937 01:18:26,202 --> 01:18:28,287 Pat Robertson's a good man. 938 01:18:28,454 --> 01:18:30,957 But if he runs, he'll peel away vital Republican votes. 939 01:18:32,291 --> 01:18:34,291 We're in a fight here, Jim. 940 01:18:34,585 --> 01:18:38,798 This gay cancer is affecting our country, our families. 941 01:18:39,173 --> 01:18:41,300 Republicans can't win without us. 942 01:18:42,844 --> 01:18:49,517 You need to understand how powerful we are in this fight for our nation's soul. �Mm. 943 01:18:49,642 --> 01:18:52,395 We should just stay out of it and keep politics out of the church. 944 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,520 Too much on the line. 945 01:18:55,565 --> 01:19:00,736 Democrats are already trying to strip away our churches' tax exempt status. 946 01:19:02,905 --> 01:19:06,617 Oh, this time, we'll keep the evangelicals in the tent. 947 01:19:08,494 --> 01:19:13,166 When's lunch? �Well, hello, everyone, it's just so nice to have you here with us. 948 01:19:13,291 --> 01:19:17,128 We have an experience today that really is touching to me. 949 01:19:17,253 --> 01:19:19,630 Right here on my right, I have a young man named Steve Pieters, 950 01:19:19,755 --> 01:19:24,552 and I'd like to introduce you to Steve. �Steve is a patient of AIDS 951 01:19:24,677 --> 01:19:28,222 and he's so generously allowed us to talk to him today. 952 01:19:28,431 --> 01:19:31,392 He is presently taking chemotherapy and is unable to travel. 953 01:19:31,517 --> 01:19:38,274 So, we have a satellite hookup live from LA. �Hello, Steve! -Hi, Tammy. 954 01:19:38,399 --> 01:19:42,779 We're so glad to see you. �I'm so happy I could be here. 955 01:19:42,904 --> 01:19:47,825 Okay, Steve. At what time in your life did you feel like you were different? 956 01:19:47,950 --> 01:19:51,120 Did you feel like maybe you weren't like some of the other guys? 957 01:19:51,287 --> 01:19:54,749 I realized I was gay when I was about 11 or 12. 958 01:19:55,791 --> 01:20:01,464 I talked with a pastor in the church where I grew up and, um, he was freaked out. 959 01:20:01,589 --> 01:20:06,385 Mm. �He told me, "Don't tell anybody." 960 01:20:06,552 --> 01:20:12,100 Never tell anybody anything about it and it will go away, 961 01:20:12,225 --> 01:20:15,895 but it didn't go away. �Okay, I have another question. 962 01:20:16,020 --> 01:20:19,690 So, the satellite is directly above us? �Yes, it orbits us. 963 01:20:19,815 --> 01:20:23,402 That's how we're able to reach so many folks just simultaneously. 964 01:20:23,569 --> 01:20:26,989 Let me ask you, Jerry, what's your viewership over at Liberty Broadcasting? 965 01:20:27,114 --> 01:20:30,993 Oh, well, I'm proud to say that we reach three million viewers a day. 966 01:20:31,118 --> 01:20:35,331 My goodness. Praise God. That's just wonderful. 967 01:20:36,707 --> 01:20:41,504 And you? �Well, we here at PTL, we reach 20 million viewers a day 968 01:20:42,129 --> 01:20:47,969 in 56 countries just because of that miracle up there in the sky. 969 01:20:48,094 --> 01:20:51,389 Oh, let's see who Tammy's talking to. �And, Steve, because of this feeling, 970 01:20:51,514 --> 01:20:52,598 did you try to make friends with girls? 971 01:20:52,723 --> 01:20:56,686 And did you try to be around girls and everything so no one would think anything? 972 01:20:56,811 --> 01:21:02,066 Oh, sure, I dated girls. �I tried to "program" myself to be straight 973 01:21:02,692 --> 01:21:07,530 and it never worked. �So, what made you feel... �And what's this, Jim? 974 01:21:07,655 --> 01:21:10,783 Like there was no way for you to be straight? �I don't know. 975 01:21:10,908 --> 01:21:12,994 This is not... -It was from meeting 976 01:21:13,119 --> 01:21:16,706 other gay people who were happy with the way they were 977 01:21:16,872 --> 01:21:19,709 that made me realize I could be happy with the way I am. 978 01:21:19,875 --> 01:21:23,671 Now, I find this problematic. �Yes. Well, you know Tammy, 979 01:21:23,796 --> 01:21:28,426 she... she connects in her own way and... �Okay, Steve. What did you feel 980 01:21:28,593 --> 01:21:34,265 when you first heard the word AIDS? �Was it just a word to you, Steve? 981 01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:38,144 Well, yes. Why would it hurt me? I was a good Christian pastor. 982 01:21:38,311 --> 01:21:43,649 I... I can't look at this. �No. �She must have programmed it last minute or... 983 01:21:43,774 --> 01:21:46,942 You need to get her under control. �No, no. Let me help. 984 01:21:47,528 --> 01:21:51,574 Believe you me, I will be having words with her. �She's been acting very... -Jim. 985 01:21:51,699 --> 01:21:54,783 Yes? �We have our differences. 986 01:21:55,703 --> 01:22:00,664 People forget sometimes a pastor needs a pastor. �As Jesus says in Mark 5... 987 01:22:00,916 --> 01:22:04,501 Reach out. �Yes. 988 01:22:05,254 --> 01:22:07,882 What happened when you told your mom and dad that you were feeling this way? 989 01:22:08,007 --> 01:22:13,512 Well, my mother cried. -Uh-huh. �And my father held my hand 990 01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:19,060 and told me that I was his son, no matter what. �Ah, thank God. 991 01:22:19,268 --> 01:22:24,940 You know, thank God for a mom and dad who will stand with a young person. 992 01:22:25,107 --> 01:22:26,317 I think that's so important 993 01:22:26,442 --> 01:22:29,320 because no matter what happens to a young person in their lives, 994 01:22:29,445 --> 01:22:32,156 they're still your boy, they're still your girl 995 01:22:32,323 --> 01:22:35,117 no matter what happens in their life. �And I think it's very important 996 01:22:35,242 --> 01:22:38,454 that we as mom and dads love through anything. 997 01:22:38,621 --> 01:22:42,833 And that's the way with Jesus, you know? �Jesus loves us through anything. 998 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,797 Jesus loves me just the way I am. �Jesus loves the way that I love. 999 01:22:48,589 --> 01:22:52,385 And have you found it to be true that people wanna stay away 1000 01:22:52,510 --> 01:22:55,471 and that they're afraid to be in the same room as you 1001 01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:57,680 and breathe the same air that you breathe? 1002 01:22:58,516 --> 01:23:05,270 Yes, Tammy. �And how sad is that? �That we as Christians 1003 01:23:05,648 --> 01:23:08,567 who are supposed to love everyone 1004 01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,822 are afraid so badly of an AIDS patient 1005 01:23:13,698 --> 01:23:17,910 that we will not go up to them and put our arm around them 1006 01:23:18,077 --> 01:23:20,621 and tell them that we care? 1007 01:23:26,919 --> 01:23:30,006 This is an emotional interview for me. �I just met Steve 1008 01:23:30,131 --> 01:23:32,675 and it's like meeting him in person for the first time. 1009 01:23:32,842 --> 01:23:36,427 I wanna put my arm around you. �And I wanna put my arms around you, Tammy Faye. 1010 01:23:42,059 --> 01:23:44,059 PTL. -PTL. 1011 01:23:45,354 --> 01:23:47,354 That's very good. Yes. 1012 01:23:48,649 --> 01:23:51,652 Every time she calls, she screams, "Jim and his buddy had sex on me." 1013 01:23:51,777 --> 01:23:53,112 Okay. Shh. -"Now, I'm gonna kill myself. 1014 01:23:53,237 --> 01:23:56,616 "Jim Bakker'll have my gosh darn blood on his hands." �Now... 1015 01:23:56,741 --> 01:24:00,036 Never heard so many curse words. �Not even from my brother Pete. �Right. 1016 01:24:00,161 --> 01:24:02,747 Did a caller upset you, dear? -Tammy... �Yes. 1017 01:24:02,872 --> 01:24:04,957 Oh, I'm so sorry. You know, when we do shows like this, 1018 01:24:05,082 --> 01:24:08,169 really, we're challenging Christians to open their hearts. 1019 01:24:08,335 --> 01:24:10,588 And some don't take it that well. -Tammy, I will handle this. 1020 01:24:10,713 --> 01:24:14,633 Oh, no, I have this, Richard. �It wasn't about the AIDS man. It was about Jim. 1021 01:24:15,176 --> 01:24:17,678 She's called before. We all call her "The Shrieker." 1022 01:24:17,803 --> 01:24:21,515 She says Jim and his buddy had sex on her. �Tammy, you're needed on stage four. 1023 01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,226 Gosh, we've been having these pranks for a long time. 1024 01:24:24,351 --> 01:24:29,148 And some people, they're just hurting so bad and we just need to love them. 1025 01:24:29,315 --> 01:24:31,984 Anyway, Jim doesn't have that in him. Believe me. 1026 01:24:33,277 --> 01:24:35,446 I know him better than anyone. 1027 01:24:58,344 --> 01:25:02,264 Join the PTL Club, and Tammy wants to send you a copy of her book... 1028 01:25:02,807 --> 01:25:09,396 about how to overcome fear. �If you haven't sent in your pledge... 1029 01:25:09,939 --> 01:25:14,233 $15, that is all, $15 a month, it'll change your life 1030 01:25:15,069 --> 01:25:17,071 and, uh, we could all use a little bit of that. 1031 01:25:17,530 --> 01:25:19,949 So, Tammy, I think you oughta sing a song for us. 1032 01:25:20,115 --> 01:25:24,036 Oh, I'm back here looking at the boat, Jim. �Isn't this a magnificent thing? 1033 01:25:24,161 --> 01:25:28,747 Yes. �Right here in our beach. �Looks brand new, I bet. 1034 01:25:29,250 --> 01:25:30,209 One of the local boat companies 1035 01:25:30,334 --> 01:25:34,044 loaned it to us, I bet. -I'm gonna take my shoes off. �I'm gonna wade in the water. 1036 01:25:35,047 --> 01:25:40,300 I don't think that boat's ever seen water. �Oh, it's fake. That's... 1037 01:25:41,387 --> 01:25:43,387 That's why. 1038 01:25:44,723 --> 01:25:46,723 "That's why" what, Tam? 1039 01:25:48,686 --> 01:25:55,109 That's why I can't hear Him. �Oh. �How can I hear Him when the sky is fake? 1040 01:25:56,235 --> 01:25:59,196 You want to stand up, honey? �We're trying to do a TV show here, baby. 1041 01:25:59,321 --> 01:26:03,699 You wanna come give me some help? �No? Well... 1042 01:26:06,871 --> 01:26:09,790 I guess it's a good time as any to work on the tan. 1043 01:26:12,459 --> 01:26:16,464 Well, if Tammy's not going to sing, I guess I am. �Oh, we're blest 1044 01:26:16,589 --> 01:26:18,589 We're blest, we're blest 1045 01:26:20,509 --> 01:26:24,263 We just got her home. �She's doing okay, she's fine. 1046 01:26:24,388 --> 01:26:28,434 No, yeah. We'll be taking her to the Betty Ford Center in the morning. 1047 01:26:28,601 --> 01:26:32,438 She just needs to rest. No shows for a while. 1048 01:26:32,938 --> 01:26:35,357 What's happening with the other thing? 1049 01:26:37,067 --> 01:26:42,823 Can I just say I love you so much? �I love you. 1050 01:26:42,948 --> 01:26:46,994 My friends are gonna be so excited when I tell them that I met you. 1051 01:26:54,001 --> 01:26:58,422 Tammy? �You had enough drugs in your system to kill a truck driver. 1052 01:26:59,465 --> 01:27:02,510 I did? �The doctor told us if you'd waited a day longer, 1053 01:27:02,635 --> 01:27:06,553 you would have had brain damage. �You could have died. 1054 01:27:06,972 --> 01:27:09,809 You can't take all those pills, honey. �They're addictive. 1055 01:27:09,934 --> 01:27:14,146 I didn't know that. I'll stop. �The doctors didn't tell me that. 1056 01:27:14,313 --> 01:27:16,315 I'm not a drug addict. 1057 01:27:17,483 --> 01:27:19,483 I'm only addicted to Diet Coke. 1058 01:27:20,361 --> 01:27:22,696 You have to stay right here. 1059 01:27:24,239 --> 01:27:28,661 God doesn't want you yet. �I have always prayed to Him 1060 01:27:28,786 --> 01:27:32,331 that He would allow you to save the souls that I wasn't able to. 1061 01:27:33,749 --> 01:27:38,126 And He has. �You do. 1062 01:27:38,420 --> 01:27:41,799 So, you have to stay right here. 1063 01:27:43,634 --> 01:27:47,844 Okay? �Okay, Mom. 1064 01:28:24,258 --> 01:28:28,053 Tammy. �Oh. Hi, Jim. 1065 01:28:30,639 --> 01:28:33,475 The Devil's coming for me, Tammy. 1066 01:28:34,351 --> 01:28:39,356 Can we talk about Satan later? �You know, I'm trying to feel like myself again. 1067 01:28:39,481 --> 01:28:41,481 There was a woman... 1068 01:28:44,737 --> 01:28:46,737 Fletcher set it up 1069 01:28:46,947 --> 01:28:51,994 after you did what you did with Gary. 1070 01:28:52,703 --> 01:28:56,415 I did it to prove something to myself, I think. I... I don't know. 1071 01:28:57,416 --> 01:28:59,416 I hated it. 1072 01:29:01,879 --> 01:29:05,049 I ended up just crying in the bathroom. 1073 01:29:11,847 --> 01:29:13,847 I fell... 1074 01:29:14,850 --> 01:29:16,850 a long way. 1075 01:29:18,228 --> 01:29:20,228 I'm so sorry. 1076 01:29:24,318 --> 01:29:26,318 Say something. 1077 01:29:29,823 --> 01:29:31,823 I've been hurting so bad, Jim. 1078 01:29:32,659 --> 01:29:34,659 For years. 1079 01:29:36,455 --> 01:29:39,249 And there's never any release to the pain. 1080 01:29:40,751 --> 01:29:43,420 There's never anything to make it stop hurting. 1081 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,174 And when I get up in the morning, 1082 01:29:48,133 --> 01:29:50,135 I feel like I'm just gonna throw up... 1083 01:29:51,386 --> 01:29:54,139 and throw up, and throw up. 1084 01:29:56,058 --> 01:30:01,647 And I have to self-talk myself, "You can make it, Tammy. "You can make it. 1085 01:30:01,772 --> 01:30:03,982 "Don't give up." 1086 01:30:08,570 --> 01:30:10,948 Damn it, Jim! 1087 01:30:12,991 --> 01:30:17,955 I'm so sick from my faith in you! 1088 01:30:20,874 --> 01:30:23,377 Well, I'm sick of you, too. 1089 01:30:25,921 --> 01:30:29,675 You try being married to Tammy Faye. 1090 01:30:29,842 --> 01:30:33,887 All I've been doing is trying to keep our marriage together, 1091 01:30:34,054 --> 01:30:40,435 keep the ministry together, working night and day while you're just buying minks 1092 01:30:40,602 --> 01:30:47,151 and drinking soda pop and cheating on me with that ape! 1093 01:30:51,321 --> 01:30:55,617 You used to take care of me, Tammy. �You stopped taking care of me. 1094 01:30:55,742 --> 01:31:00,287 I don't wanna take care of you, Jim. �I don't wanna be your mother. 1095 01:31:00,706 --> 01:31:05,752 A woman needs a man in a relationship! �I am a man! -You're a boy. 1096 01:31:05,919 --> 01:31:09,671 I built all of this. I built you an empire. �You built you an empire. 1097 01:31:09,798 --> 01:31:15,012 No man could ever give you enough. �You're a bottomless pit. 1098 01:31:15,637 --> 01:31:17,973 And you keep on asking me for more 1099 01:31:18,140 --> 01:31:23,228 with that whiny, grating Betty Boop voice! 1100 01:31:39,328 --> 01:31:41,328 I thought you liked Betty Boop. 1101 01:31:44,458 --> 01:31:51,087 I'm sorry. �I'm so sorry, Tammy. �Me, too, Jim. 1102 01:31:51,298 --> 01:31:53,298 Um... 1103 01:31:55,093 --> 01:31:59,765 There's another thing. The woman... 1104 01:32:00,474 --> 01:32:06,563 I gave her money to stay quiet, but she didn't. �And, um... 1105 01:32:06,688 --> 01:32:10,067 And the money came from PTL donors. �Jim. 1106 01:32:10,192 --> 01:32:11,860 And Charles Shepard has the story from The Observer. 1107 01:32:11,985 --> 01:32:15,405 And he's gonna print it tomorrow. �Oh, my God. 1108 01:32:19,409 --> 01:32:21,995 I just... I know... -Jim. Oh, my God. 1109 01:32:24,414 --> 01:32:26,414 I destroyed everything. 1110 01:32:27,751 --> 01:32:33,964 Our life's work, Jim. �I know. �Tammy. 1111 01:32:34,758 --> 01:32:37,636 Tam, my sweetheart, 1112 01:32:39,137 --> 01:32:41,473 if anyone falls, it's gonna be me. 1113 01:32:42,432 --> 01:32:45,727 You can let me be the man that I was meant to be for you. 1114 01:32:46,979 --> 01:32:49,106 You don't know anything. 1115 01:32:52,359 --> 01:32:56,987 Oh, they're here. �Who's that? �It's all right. 1116 01:32:58,031 --> 01:33:02,035 These are the men that are gonna help me fix this. �Oh, no, Jim. 1117 01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:06,498 No, no. -Reverend. Thank you so much. �Thank you so much for coming. -Jim. 1118 01:33:06,623 --> 01:33:12,963 Oh, it's love that carried me here today. �God bless you. -Tammy Faye. �Jerry. 1119 01:33:13,088 --> 01:33:16,925 Come in, please. Please come in. Welcome. �Thank you. Thank you for coming, fellas. 1120 01:33:17,050 --> 01:33:23,891 All right. �Well, here we are. �We think it's best that we create a distance 1121 01:33:24,016 --> 01:33:28,061 between you and the ministry. �It'll only be for a couple of weeks. 1122 01:33:28,186 --> 01:33:31,023 Then, gradually, we'll bring you back on the network 1123 01:33:31,732 --> 01:33:33,734 after all this unpleasantness settles down. 1124 01:33:33,900 --> 01:33:37,070 Jerry, you're a Baptist. You know, you're not a charismatic. 1125 01:33:37,237 --> 01:33:41,114 And our audience won't like that. �Right, Jim? -Audience? 1126 01:33:41,533 --> 01:33:44,828 I thought they were parishioners. �They are. 1127 01:33:44,953 --> 01:33:50,292 They're our partners. We call them partners. �Mm. 20 million souls a day 1128 01:33:50,417 --> 01:33:57,047 touched by The Word. Thanks to PTL. �Mm. �You go back there right away, and... 1129 01:33:58,300 --> 01:34:02,637 Well, bless your hearts. �Look at the two of you right now, so very pitiful. 1130 01:34:03,764 --> 01:34:06,183 They see you, and they'll change the channel. 1131 01:34:08,018 --> 01:34:11,772 Jim, all those souls you won 1132 01:34:13,065 --> 01:34:15,065 for Jesus... 1133 01:34:16,610 --> 01:34:20,989 I'm here for you. �Thank you, Reverend. -Mm. 1134 01:34:24,701 --> 01:34:27,079 Just make sure you take care of our partners. 1135 01:34:28,497 --> 01:34:30,497 That is the only thing that matters now. 1136 01:34:40,842 --> 01:34:44,886 You're watching PTL, The Inspirational Network. 1137 01:34:47,766 --> 01:34:49,766 Tammy and I are so very glad 1138 01:34:49,893 --> 01:34:56,024 that we've been granted the opportunity to talk with you today, and, um... 1139 01:34:56,149 --> 01:35:01,655 Say hello. �Hello, everybody. �And... 1140 01:35:01,780 --> 01:35:03,949 we want to say to you 1141 01:35:04,116 --> 01:35:09,121 that we are so very, very sorry. 1142 01:35:09,287 --> 01:35:12,499 And to thank the people who are standing with us all over, 1143 01:35:12,666 --> 01:35:15,293 saying, "Jim, we do forgive you. 1144 01:35:15,460 --> 01:35:19,131 "We forgive Jim and Tammy of all of their sins." 1145 01:35:19,297 --> 01:35:23,135 And we're so thankful that God has forgiven us. 1146 01:35:23,301 --> 01:35:27,764 We don't know what the future holds, but I believe, Tammy. 1147 01:35:27,931 --> 01:35:33,061 'Cause the God I know is still God. �I believe that the sun will shine again. 1148 01:35:33,228 --> 01:35:38,608 Oh, I do, too, Jim. �Do you wanna sing it? Can you do it? �I sure will. -All right. 1149 01:35:38,733 --> 01:35:42,070 All right, Tammy Faye is going to sing a song for us. 1150 01:35:43,989 --> 01:35:47,117 Well, maybe you're hurting, and you need this song today, too. 1151 01:35:47,284 --> 01:35:50,704 So I'll sing it for both of us, okay? 1152 01:35:50,871 --> 01:35:55,292 The sun will shine again 1153 01:35:56,084 --> 01:36:02,299 Now, if you are facing a mountain so high 1154 01:36:02,466 --> 01:36:08,555 That just won't move away 1155 01:36:09,723 --> 01:36:13,268 We've heard about your sinful behavior. 1156 01:36:13,727 --> 01:36:18,023 If you tell us what we need to know about Jim Bakker, 1157 01:36:19,024 --> 01:36:24,654 we can protect you. �Oh-ho, listen, my brother 1158 01:36:24,821 --> 01:36:31,787 We don't want them destitute. �They're children of God. �We want to make sure 1159 01:36:31,912 --> 01:36:35,582 we don't leave them stranded in the desert. 1160 01:36:44,090 --> 01:36:48,762 Write it down, what you make, what you need, every little thing. 1161 01:36:48,929 --> 01:36:54,142 While you're in your time of healing, he wants you to be safe and provided for. 1162 01:36:54,309 --> 01:37:00,357 I told him how fragile you are. �He wants to help. He told me so himself. 1163 01:37:02,192 --> 01:37:04,192 You wanna start us off, honey? 1164 01:37:06,988 --> 01:37:09,028 What should I write, Jim? -Start with everything. 1165 01:37:09,157 --> 01:37:12,452 Start with what you need for clothes. �What's your salary, Jim? 1166 01:37:12,577 --> 01:37:18,458 One second. I'll try calling Jerry again. �He hasn't returned any of my calls. 1167 01:37:18,792 --> 01:37:25,590 The other side whose storm �Is going to end 1168 01:37:26,675 --> 01:37:32,556 Well, your midnight's almost over "Jim's salary for a lifetime 1169 01:37:32,681 --> 01:37:38,311 "at 300.000 per year. "Tammy's salary for a lifetime at 100.000 a year. 1170 01:37:38,478 --> 01:37:40,564 "Secretary for one year. Phone bill. 1171 01:37:40,730 --> 01:37:44,317 "House on the lake. Security. Personal maid." 1172 01:37:47,028 --> 01:37:49,823 I don't see the repentance there. 1173 01:37:51,408 --> 01:37:55,120 I see the greed. I see the self-centeredness. 1174 01:37:55,287 --> 01:37:59,207 I see the avarice that brought them down. 1175 01:37:59,749 --> 01:38:02,544 Jim, I have sat across the table 1176 01:38:02,711 --> 01:38:06,298 from men who have told me about your homosexual advances. 1177 01:38:07,215 --> 01:38:11,970 And since then, I have learned of fiscal irregularities. 1178 01:38:12,137 --> 01:38:15,515 It would be a disservice to God, Jim... �It's all over. 1179 01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:20,937 And to the church at large if I allowed you to come back. �I've been had. 1180 01:38:21,104 --> 01:38:25,150 How could you have trusted people like that? 1181 01:38:25,942 --> 01:38:29,863 You understand that I can't allow you to stay here. 1182 01:38:30,989 --> 01:38:35,243 Your home, and everything in it, belongs to the ministry. 1183 01:38:36,411 --> 01:38:38,955 Your midnight's almost over. 1184 01:38:39,122 --> 01:38:43,668 And thank God, the sun is going to shine again. 1185 01:38:43,877 --> 01:38:45,962 Praise, praise in the name of the Lord. 1186 01:38:46,129 --> 01:38:48,590 The charges being made against you right now 1187 01:38:48,757 --> 01:38:52,677 are, in effect, that you stole PTL blind. 1188 01:38:52,844 --> 01:38:55,639 While PTL was suffering through months after months 1189 01:38:55,805 --> 01:39:00,101 of $2 million negative balances, you were paying yourself bonuses, 1190 01:39:00,226 --> 01:39:01,853 you were paying Tammy Faye bonuses. -No. 1191 01:39:01,978 --> 01:39:04,898 I don't know if you ever have a positive balance in a ministry, Jim. 1192 01:39:05,065 --> 01:39:07,025 I've never known anyone to have a positive one. 1193 01:39:07,150 --> 01:39:11,321 We're... We're always playing catch-up. �Jim Bakker went on trial 1194 01:39:11,446 --> 01:39:14,407 on charges of fraud today. �The prosecution called Bakker, 1195 01:39:14,532 --> 01:39:15,534 "A man corrupted by love of money and luxury." 1196 01:39:15,659 --> 01:39:17,869 The founder of the now-bankrupt PTL ministry swindled followers 1197 01:39:17,994 --> 01:39:21,540 out of millions of dollars to support a lavish lifestyle. �One couple showed up 1198 01:39:21,665 --> 01:39:24,042 in Jim and Tammy Faye masks. �Couple million dollars in PTL cash 1199 01:39:24,167 --> 01:39:27,921 for their personal use. �How much money did you earn last year? 1200 01:39:28,046 --> 01:39:33,552 Salary, bonuses, and dividends, and royalties... �No idea? You're starting... 1201 01:39:33,677 --> 01:39:37,180 I don't have the exact figure. �Not exactly. -I honestly, honest... 1202 01:39:37,305 --> 01:39:39,808 I do not know how much I make. I never thought about it. 1203 01:39:39,974 --> 01:39:44,145 She don't. -I really don't. �To raise desperately needed cash, 1204 01:39:44,270 --> 01:39:46,856 PTL is auctioning off opulent personal items 1205 01:39:47,023 --> 01:39:50,527 deposed Evangelists Jim and Tammy Bakker bought with church donations. 1206 01:39:50,652 --> 01:39:52,529 They also brought new charges of moral failure. 1207 01:39:52,654 --> 01:39:55,115 Having sex with Reverend Jim Bakker. �Jessica Hahn, 1208 01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:58,785 Bakker personally directed the payment of PTL hush money. 1209 01:39:58,952 --> 01:40:02,745 We grieve for the impact all of this has had upon the entire Christian community. 1210 01:40:02,956 --> 01:40:06,501 As for the homosexual advances going back to 1956, 1211 01:40:06,710 --> 01:40:11,881 you're saying that's a lie. -Yes. Yes. �Yes, that's... that's... that's true. 1212 01:40:12,006 --> 01:40:16,803 What are you saying? �That's... That's a lie. �Yes. Yes. And, you know, 1213 01:40:16,970 --> 01:40:23,601 people need to know that God loves homosexuals. 1214 01:40:24,018 --> 01:40:25,604 Preachers have to be awfully pious. 1215 01:40:25,729 --> 01:40:29,399 And when they fall from grace, they fall harder. �People laugh. 1216 01:40:29,524 --> 01:40:33,526 Tammy, we have a bit of goop on our face. �You've taken her makeup off. 1217 01:40:34,821 --> 01:40:38,658 I saw his wife. I heard the accusations, wife-swapping, homosexuality. 1218 01:40:38,783 --> 01:40:43,163 Have you seen this woman? �I'd swap her for a can of soup. 1219 01:40:43,329 --> 01:40:45,331 National news, special report. 1220 01:40:45,540 --> 01:40:51,171 Jim Bakker was found guilty on all 24 counts of wire and... �Guilty. -Guilty. 1221 01:40:51,337 --> 01:40:56,968 He now faces up to a 120 years in prison and $5 million in fines. 1222 01:40:57,135 --> 01:41:03,725 Ted, can I say something? �Sure. �I just wanna say, remember, God loves you. 1223 01:41:03,892 --> 01:41:07,187 I wanna say that, too. God loves you. 1224 01:41:07,353 --> 01:41:10,064 He really does. Bye-bye. -He really, really does. 1225 01:41:10,231 --> 01:41:14,484 All right. Thank you both very much for being with us. �We're clear. 1226 01:41:37,634 --> 01:41:39,761 It's all right, honey. Don't cry. 1227 01:41:44,557 --> 01:41:48,603 No. �I didn't do anything. Please. 1228 01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:55,402 I have a song for you. �On Christ 1229 01:41:55,527 --> 01:42:00,031 The solid rock I stand 1230 01:42:00,198 --> 01:42:06,746 All other ground is sinking sand 1231 01:42:06,913 --> 01:42:13,127 All other ground is sinking sand 1232 01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:28,351 God... �I followed you ever since I was a little girl. 1233 01:42:30,854 --> 01:42:32,854 I loved you. 1234 01:42:34,482 --> 01:42:36,482 I served you. 1235 01:42:39,070 --> 01:42:41,070 And I worked for you. 1236 01:42:44,158 --> 01:42:46,158 God... 1237 01:42:48,413 --> 01:42:50,413 where have you gone? 1238 01:42:51,958 --> 01:42:54,752 It's not over till it's over. 1239 01:43:31,205 --> 01:43:35,919 Hey. Sorry I'm late. �Oh. �Hi. -Hi. 1240 01:43:36,044 --> 01:43:38,213 Nice to meet ya. I'm Tammy. -Nice to meet you. Stephen. 1241 01:43:38,338 --> 01:43:41,466 All right. You need a water or anything? �Oh, no, I'm good. -Okay. 1242 01:43:41,591 --> 01:43:48,304 My new headshot. �Yeah, all right. Nice. �All right. So... 1243 01:43:48,723 --> 01:43:52,810 I hear you're here to pitch me something. �Oh. So I should... I'll... Yeah. 1244 01:43:53,728 --> 01:43:55,605 So, I have two ideas for you, Stephen. 1245 01:43:55,730 --> 01:44:00,527 And then I'd like to hear what you see me doing. �Okay. 1246 01:44:00,652 --> 01:44:04,072 Okay. Um, the first one is about puppets. 1247 01:44:04,238 --> 01:44:09,828 I mean, it's serious, but it's also funny. �It's a talk show but with puppets. 1248 01:44:09,953 --> 01:44:11,704 And it's for kids and also for adults. 1249 01:44:11,829 --> 01:44:18,209 And it's a way for people to talk about their problems, but with puppets. 1250 01:44:19,587 --> 01:44:21,587 Okay. 1251 01:44:22,423 --> 01:44:24,509 Okay, I have something else for you, Stephen. 1252 01:44:24,759 --> 01:44:27,136 Oh, okay, another one. -It's for teenagers. 1253 01:44:27,303 --> 01:44:29,931 You know, the biggest problem that they say is, 1254 01:44:30,098 --> 01:44:33,017 "How can we get people to listen to us?" 1255 01:44:33,184 --> 01:44:37,063 And I would really love to give them that chance and, you know, go where they go. 1256 01:44:37,188 --> 01:44:39,816 I'd love to go to the piercing parlors with them, 1257 01:44:39,983 --> 01:44:42,652 I'd love to go to the tattoo places with them, and... 1258 01:44:42,819 --> 01:44:46,197 And you would call this show, what? "Tammy's Terrific Teens." -Oh, yeah. 1259 01:44:46,322 --> 01:44:50,616 I thought that would be, you know, a fun title. �I was just curious. 1260 01:44:50,827 --> 01:44:54,956 Well, what do you see me doing, Stephen? �I mean, you're the expert. 1261 01:44:55,748 --> 01:44:58,918 Well, have you reached out to any Christian networks or anything? 1262 01:45:01,379 --> 01:45:07,301 Well, they won't have me. �Okay. Well, what I've learned from doing these shows, 1263 01:45:07,468 --> 01:45:11,014 and I think you've learned as well, is, you know, it is dangerous 1264 01:45:11,139 --> 01:45:13,725 to wanna be seen just for the sake of it. You know? 1265 01:45:13,891 --> 01:45:19,063 Well, I do love the camera, but... �Why? �Well, because it's a person. 1266 01:45:19,188 --> 01:45:24,235 It's someone to talk to. �It's... It's God's love through me. 1267 01:45:27,196 --> 01:45:30,531 So what do you think, Stephen? �You know, would you like to do a show? 1268 01:45:31,534 --> 01:45:36,289 I don't know, Tammy. �I just don't think it's a good fit for us right now. 1269 01:45:36,873 --> 01:45:38,873 Okay? 1270 01:45:39,876 --> 01:45:42,211 Well, well, I... I... 1271 01:45:43,296 --> 01:45:45,006 I really appreciate... -Thank you for coming in. 1272 01:45:45,131 --> 01:45:46,758 Thank you. -Thanks for coming through. 1273 01:45:46,883 --> 01:45:50,970 We'll take care of your parking validation. �Thank you. -Okay. 1274 01:45:51,095 --> 01:45:53,095 You have a good one. 1275 01:45:55,933 --> 01:46:00,519 Bye. -Bye. �Oops. 1276 01:46:18,873 --> 01:46:23,209 Oh, man. �What'd she do to her face? 1277 01:46:25,922 --> 01:46:28,883 I told you she lived here. What a freak. 1278 01:46:34,013 --> 01:46:40,228 Oh, man. -Hi. �Oh, shit. She's comin' over here. �You guys just hangin' out? -Yeah. 1279 01:46:41,521 --> 01:46:45,608 So, you can talk about me. That's all right. 1280 01:46:45,775 --> 01:46:49,487 But, you know, you gotta shake my hand, and you gotta say hi first. 1281 01:46:51,239 --> 01:46:55,702 Hi. -Hi, nice to meet ya. �I'm Tammy. What's your name? �Um, Max. -Hi. 1282 01:46:55,827 --> 01:46:59,205 But, you know, we're not strangers. �I live right there. We're neighbors. 1283 01:47:00,123 --> 01:47:02,166 Oh! Let me show you guys what I just got. 1284 01:47:03,042 --> 01:47:07,004 Who would like a picture? 1285 01:47:10,299 --> 01:47:12,051 Jolene, I cannot believe that you have eaten 1286 01:47:12,176 --> 01:47:15,513 almost an entire jar of peanut butter. �Well, I'm sorry, Susanne. 1287 01:47:15,638 --> 01:47:21,602 I happen to be eating for two. �Don't beg. �Okay, you're being so good. 1288 01:47:21,727 --> 01:47:25,064 I say, have at it. �You know, Susanne, since you're having 1289 01:47:25,189 --> 01:47:28,109 so much trouble collecting money for your benefit, I might be able to help you out. 1290 01:47:28,234 --> 01:47:33,654 You, how? �God bless you. You've reached Tammy. �Leave me a message. 1291 01:47:35,324 --> 01:47:39,245 Hello, Mrs. Bakker. This is Linda Thomas from Oral Roberts School of Divinity. 1292 01:47:39,370 --> 01:47:42,373 You probably don't remember but I volunteered at PTL. 1293 01:47:42,540 --> 01:47:46,544 You were always so nice to me. �Anyway, I'm calling to invite you to sing 1294 01:47:46,669 --> 01:47:48,838 at this year's festival of Praise and Redemption. 1295 01:47:49,005 --> 01:47:51,340 I think you'd be a wonderful addition to our program. 1296 01:47:51,507 --> 01:47:55,676 We'll check back with you to find out if you're interested. �Thanks very much. 1297 01:48:26,417 --> 01:48:28,417 Hi. -Hi. 1298 01:48:43,392 --> 01:48:46,979 So, what's new? �Oh. I don't know. 1299 01:48:49,232 --> 01:48:51,817 I got an invitation from Oral Roberts to sing. 1300 01:48:52,652 --> 01:48:57,907 Wow. -Yeah. �That's wonderful. �I'm not gonna do it though. -You should. 1301 01:48:58,032 --> 01:49:00,993 No, I haven't been in church for years. �Well, that's where you belong. 1302 01:49:01,118 --> 01:49:05,456 No, I don't belong with them. �They're gonna laugh. �I'm not gonna go. 1303 01:49:05,581 --> 01:49:12,169 It's my fault you feel that way. �I'm sorry for that. �All of it. 1304 01:49:13,965 --> 01:49:18,970 I pray for you, Jim. �And I pray that God will use you again. 1305 01:49:20,471 --> 01:49:22,471 Yes. 1306 01:49:26,060 --> 01:49:30,439 I appreciate you signing the divorce papers, Jim. �I didn't want to, Tam. 1307 01:49:30,564 --> 01:49:32,564 I know. 1308 01:49:33,609 --> 01:49:36,112 But, you know, we've just been through too much together 1309 01:49:36,279 --> 01:49:41,617 and, you know, there's been too many hurts that have happened over the years. 1310 01:49:42,451 --> 01:49:48,791 And that poor girl, Jim. �I know, I know. I know. �I'm ashamed of that. 1311 01:49:49,500 --> 01:49:52,920 I've been getting some real me and God time in here 1312 01:49:53,087 --> 01:49:54,589 and everything looks very, very different 1313 01:49:54,714 --> 01:49:57,967 when you're looking at it from the bottom up. �Well, yeah. -Yeah. 1314 01:49:58,092 --> 01:50:02,344 And I've just been thinking, were we preaching 1315 01:50:02,972 --> 01:50:06,142 that God doesn't love you if you're poor? 1316 01:50:07,435 --> 01:50:09,435 Well, you know that I grew up poor. 1317 01:50:11,147 --> 01:50:16,110 It's not what you have in stuff, it's the people that count. 1318 01:50:16,902 --> 01:50:18,902 Amen. -Amen. 1319 01:50:34,128 --> 01:50:36,128 Tammy. 1320 01:50:37,298 --> 01:50:39,298 Mom? 1321 01:50:43,304 --> 01:50:48,057 "We therefore were buried with him "through baptism into death. 1322 01:50:48,559 --> 01:50:51,812 "In order that, "just as Christ was raised from the dead 1323 01:50:51,937 --> 01:50:58,110 "through the glory of the Father, "we too may walk in newness of life." 1324 01:51:00,112 --> 01:51:04,365 Such a good service. �Hello, Tom. Thanks for comin'. 1325 01:51:06,035 --> 01:51:10,373 There you are. �Aren't you gonna come in, have somethin' to eat? 1326 01:51:10,539 --> 01:51:15,667 I don't belong in there with them. �Yeah. 1327 01:51:16,212 --> 01:51:18,130 One good thing about your mum kicking the bucket is 1328 01:51:18,255 --> 01:51:20,255 I never have to go to church again. 1329 01:51:22,385 --> 01:51:24,385 No, I shouldn't laugh at that. 1330 01:51:26,639 --> 01:51:29,058 Oh, I did something terrible. -Oh? 1331 01:51:30,309 --> 01:51:34,897 Oh. �You're forgiven. 1332 01:51:35,689 --> 01:51:40,818 Ooh. Wow, she really was blind, wasn't she? �Mm-hmm. 1333 01:51:41,987 --> 01:51:46,617 I got somethin' for ya. �You recognize this? 1334 01:51:49,412 --> 01:51:54,792 I thought Falwell took everything. �She hid this. �She stole it. 1335 01:51:54,917 --> 01:51:58,254 Well, she said she'd be damned if she was gonna hand over this precious thing 1336 01:51:58,379 --> 01:52:02,258 her daughter worked so hard for to the fat Baptist. 1337 01:52:30,244 --> 01:52:34,540 We're opening the house now, Ms. Bakker. �People are taking their seats. 1338 01:52:39,587 --> 01:52:41,587 Well, hello there, Tammy. 1339 01:52:43,257 --> 01:52:45,257 Hi, there. 1340 01:52:47,386 --> 01:52:49,386 I'm scared. 1341 01:52:56,228 --> 01:53:00,733 Jesus, come in to my heart, and forgive me my sins. 1342 01:53:02,109 --> 01:53:04,570 I know I cared about things that I shouldn't have. 1343 01:53:06,363 --> 01:53:08,363 And I know I got lost... 1344 01:53:10,868 --> 01:53:14,246 and I forgot who you are to me... 1345 01:53:17,208 --> 01:53:19,208 but that's done now. 1346 01:53:20,711 --> 01:53:26,175 Yeah, I won't go forward looking in the rearview mirror of my life. 1347 01:53:27,593 --> 01:53:29,593 On stage in 10 minutes. 1348 01:53:47,571 --> 01:53:53,784 Thank you. �Here, this is for the piano player. �Okay. 1349 01:54:09,301 --> 01:54:15,474 Ladies and gentlemen... please welcome tonight's special guest, 1350 01:54:15,641 --> 01:54:17,641 Tammy Faye. 1351 01:54:25,609 --> 01:54:30,447 Aw. �Thank you. Thank you so much. 1352 01:54:33,576 --> 01:54:39,373 I am genuinely, I am so happy to be back where I once belonged. 1353 01:54:43,961 --> 01:54:48,132 This morning when I was in need of some comfort, 1354 01:54:48,299 --> 01:54:53,135 I turned to my favorite scripture, Psalms 91. 1355 01:54:55,889 --> 01:55:00,559 "He that dwelleth in the secret place "of the most high 1356 01:55:02,062 --> 01:55:08,442 "shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty." �And this is my favorite part. 1357 01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:19,038 "He shall cover thee with His feathers 1358 01:55:20,789 --> 01:55:22,789 "and under His wings 1359 01:55:23,709 --> 01:55:26,211 "shalt thou trust." 1360 01:55:29,757 --> 01:55:32,801 Well, I haven't had a concert in almost a decade 1361 01:55:34,386 --> 01:55:36,513 and I am a little nervous. 1362 01:55:38,307 --> 01:55:43,854 But I'll do my best to deliver Him to you folks tonight. Okay? 1363 01:55:51,945 --> 01:55:56,742 Mine eyes �Have seen the glory 1364 01:55:58,077 --> 01:56:01,997 Of the coming of the Lord 1365 01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:06,669 He is trampling out the vintage 1366 01:56:07,586 --> 01:56:13,008 Where the grapes of wrath are stored 1367 01:56:13,884 --> 01:56:15,884 He hath loosed 1368 01:56:16,887 --> 01:56:18,972 The fateful lightning 1369 01:56:20,599 --> 01:56:25,020 Of His terrible, swift sword 1370 01:56:27,564 --> 01:56:34,530 His truth is marching on 1371 01:56:36,657 --> 01:56:43,622 Glory, glory, hallelujah 1372 01:56:43,831 --> 01:56:50,796 Glory, glory, hallelujah 1373 01:56:51,004 --> 01:56:57,386 Glory, glory, hallelujah 1374 01:56:57,553 --> 01:57:04,518 His truth is marching on 1375 01:57:04,685 --> 01:57:08,313 I have read His fiery gospel 1376 01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:11,692 Writ in burnished rows of steel 1377 01:57:11,859 --> 01:57:18,490 "As ye deal with my condemners "So with you my grace shall deal" 1378 01:57:18,657 --> 01:57:22,369 Let the Hero, born of woman 1379 01:57:22,536 --> 01:57:25,748 Crush the serpent with his heel 1380 01:57:25,914 --> 01:57:32,713 Since God is marching on 1381 01:57:33,088 --> 01:57:35,758 Come on, everybody! Feel his miracle! 1382 01:57:37,217 --> 01:57:44,016 Glory, glory, hallelujah 1383 01:57:44,183 --> 01:57:50,189 Glory, glory, hallelujah 1384 01:57:51,482 --> 01:57:57,529 Glory, glory, hallelujah 1385 01:57:57,738 --> 01:58:04,536 His truth is marching on 1386 01:58:04,953 --> 01:58:09,958 Oh, how thankful I am for the amazing grace of God. 1387 01:58:10,542 --> 01:58:15,297 Because without that beautiful grace, I wouldn't even be here today. 1388 01:58:16,089 --> 01:58:21,929 That grace that reached down and said, "Tammy Faye, I love you. 1389 01:58:22,095 --> 01:58:25,015 "And I love you just the way you are." 1390 01:58:25,474 --> 01:58:29,144 You know God's grace is sufficient enough for you today, too. 1391 01:58:29,311 --> 01:58:33,816 And He loves you just the way you are! 1392 01:58:33,982 --> 01:58:40,614 Glory, glory, hallelujah 1393 01:58:40,823 --> 01:58:46,829 Glory, glory, hallelujah 1394 01:58:48,121 --> 01:58:54,378 Glory, glory, hallelujah 1395 01:58:54,545 --> 01:59:00,843 His truth is marching on 1396 01:59:01,552 --> 01:59:05,222 Our God is 1397 01:59:06,181 --> 01:59:09,852 Marching 1398 01:59:10,018 --> 01:59:15,357 On 1399 01:59:18,318 --> 01:59:23,699 Thank you, Lord, for the United States of America. �We thank you, Lord, 1400 01:59:23,824 --> 01:59:27,077 that we live in this wonderful country. 1401 01:59:27,244 --> 01:59:34,124 God bless America. Hallelujah. �Oh, yeah. 1402 02:00:26,803 --> 02:00:30,265 It's not over till it's over. 1403 02:00:33,265 --> 02:00:37,265 Preuzeto sa www.titlovi.com 128663

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