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In the criminal justice system,
sexually based offenses
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are considered
especially heinous.
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In New York City,
the dedicated detectives
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who investigate
these vicious felonies
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are members of an elite squad
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known as
the special victims unit.
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These are their stories.
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Grace, you got this.
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Now go out there and
let them have it!
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Yes?
Breathe, boo-boo.
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[Breathing deeply]
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Glasses, please.
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Thank you very much.
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[Cheers and applause]
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Hi, honey.
What's your name?
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Grace.
Grace belsey.
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I'm from
west orange, New Jersey.
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She got this on her own.
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We're just so proud of her.
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No matter what happens.
Right, honey?
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She's going all the way.
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Those judges, they don't
know what they're in for.
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Dad...
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My mom was
actually diagnosed with
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non-hodgkins lymphoma last
year...
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- Another sick mom.
- Didn't see that coming.
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My audition on American diva?
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It is all thanks to my
mom and dad...
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Yes.
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God, and my coach,
Jackie Walker.
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I discovered grace
at an open call.
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She's got all the tools
to win this thing.
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It's up to her now.
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I'll take her as
far as she can go.
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Okay, Gracie.
You seem a little nervous.
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You okay?
It's okay.
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I remember my first time.
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What are you singing
tonight, honey?
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- Um, "for once in my life".
- And you're how old?
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14.
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Okay.
You ready?
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Okay.
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♪ For once in my life
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♪ I have someone who needs me
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♪ someone
I've needed so long ♪
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I can't hear her right now.
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♪ For once I'm afraid
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♪ I can go where life
leads me ♪
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Give her a chance.
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♪ This is how I know
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♪ I'll be strong
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♪ for once I can touch
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♪ what my heart
used to dream of ♪
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Uhhuh.
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You know what I was thinking?
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We should throw
a housewarming party.
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Brian, don't say that.
You love parties.
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♪ You would make my
dreams come true ♪
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♪ oh
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♪ once in my life
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♪ I won't let sorrow hurt me
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♪ not like it's
hurt me before ♪
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♪ for once I have something
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♪ I know won't desert me
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♪ I'm not alone anymore
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♪ for once I can say
this is mine ♪
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♪ you can't take it
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♪ as long as I know
I have love ♪
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♪ I can make it
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♪ for once in my life
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♪ I have someone
who needs me ♪
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♪ yeah
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daddy, how do I
get on American diva?
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Well, same way you get
to carnegie hall:
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Practice.
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What?
You're weird, daddy.
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♪ For once in my life
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♪ I won't let sorrow hurt me ♪
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♪ not like it's
hurt me before ♪
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♪ for once I have something ♪
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♪ I know won't desert me
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♪ I'm not alone anymore
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♪ for once I can say
this is mine ♪
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♪ you can't take it
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♪ as long as I know
I have love ♪
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♪ I can make it
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♪ for once in my life
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♪ I have someone
who needs me ♪
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Don't sit so close
to the TV, Cooper.
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♪ Yeah
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where's Jonah?
He's missing the best part.
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Jonah, come watch the show.
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♪ Yeah
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♪ who needs me
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yes! Yes!
[Cheers and applause]
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That was fantastic.
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Your voice?
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Liquid velvet.
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[Cheers and applause]
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Gracie, after tonight,
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your life will never
be the same.
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Where does that
voice even come from?
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My voice coach.
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[Cheers and applause]
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Look!
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It's your music
teacher, Mr. Jackie.
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Isn't that exciting?
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No.
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Jonah, your music
teacher is on TV.
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- I don't like Mr. Jackie.
- Of course you do.
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He makes me play doctor.
I don't like him.
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[Theme music]
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♪
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Law & order: SVU
15x07- Dissonant Voices
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- sync and corrections by Zac -
- www.Addic7ed.Com -
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Mr. Jackie is a bad man.
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Why is he a bad man, sweetie?
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He follows me
into the bathroom.
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- When does he do that?
- When I have to go.
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Just the two of you?
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- Does he close the door?
- Uhhuh.
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That's Jonah Allen.
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Four years old?
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And change.
His mother called SVU.
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Sometimes he wants
to play doctor.
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I don't like that.
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Jonah, do you like to draw?
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You do?
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'Cause look what
I have right here.
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So Jonah saw his music
teacher, Jackie Walker,
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on TV and flipped out.
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What's his music
teacher doing on TV?
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He's a vocal coach
on American diva.
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Yeah, anyway,
he kept his day job:
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Pre-k music teacher
at the Margaret Fuller school.
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The 50,000 dollar a year
prep school off park Avenue.
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- That's it.
- Terrific.
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So who brought him here?
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His mother and his sister,
and his parents may be
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wealthy, but they also
separated just three months ago.
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And the four-year-old
suddenly comes forward.
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Could be he wants attention,
could be a divorce maneuver.
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Get the father down here, too.
Mmhmm.
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I'm sorry.
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It's just...
I'm kind of in shock.
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Well, you notice any changes
in Jonah's behavior recently?
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Yes, actually.
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He spends Wednesday
nights at his father's,
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and he said he
wet the bed there.
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He hasn't done
that in two years.
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I don't know what my
wife is telling you,
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but it's a lie!
Shut up, Steven!
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Don't you talk to me like that!
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- Whoa, whoa, take it easy!
- Mr. Allen, step back.
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Listen, we're going
through a divorce.
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I don't know what she's accusing
me of, but it's a lie.
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She's not accusing
you of anything.
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Baby, this is just
about the money.
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- Then stop!
- That is all he thinks about!
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Calm down.
This is all about your son.
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My wife is lying.
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She's already reported me to
the IRS, made a false report...
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I said calm down.
Let's go.
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I swear, if Steven tries
to blame me for this...
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Why would he do that?
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He wanted public school.
I wanted Margaret Fuller.
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This is all my fault.
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No, honey.
Honey, why would you say that?
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When Jonah told me,
I should have told our mom.
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When Jonah told you what?
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He said that Mr. Jackie
followed him into the
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bathroom,
and... touched him.
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Oh, okay.
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When did Jonah tell you that?
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A couple of weeks ago.
But, I mean, Jonah, he's four.
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He makes things up.
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What other things
he has made up?
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Sometimes he says he
has another family in
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California, or that he can
see through doors, you know.
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So you thought
he made this up, too.
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It's just Jackie.
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I mean, I've known
him since I was four.
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I didn't want to believe
that he would...
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Oh, God, I think I'm
going to be sick.
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That's really good.
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So what is this?
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That's a magic egg.
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Mr. Jackie tickles
me with it.
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Can you tell me
where he tickles you?
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I say stop, but he doesn't.
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Okay, and, Jonah, can you
tell me again where you play
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this doctor game?
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In the special bathroom.
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What makes it special?
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There's bluebirds and flowers.
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Consistent, specific details.
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Seems credible.
So we believe Jonah?
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Jonah was adamant that
Jackie did something,
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you know, "wrong."
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Did you guys get anything
from the parents?
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Parents hate each other,
but I don't see either one
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of them coaching
the kid to lie.
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The sister, Brooke, she's 15.
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She told me Jonah disclosed
to her two weeks ago,
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and she also said that
he does make things up.
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- Any history with this guy?
- No.
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Jackie's clean.
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He's not in the registry,
no record,
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not even any legal issues.
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What did the doctor say?
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She said there were
no signs of STDs,
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and sexual abuse
is inconclusive.
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Jonah said that Jackie used
a magic egg to tickle him.
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He didn't say anything
about penetration.
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What do you mean magic egg?
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He drew that purple oval.
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He said that Walker keeps it
with the rhythm instruments.
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It's enough for probable cause.
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I'll get a warrant.
Call CSU...
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CSU?
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Come on, do we have
to make a show out of this?
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Amanda, you worrying
about that school?
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No, Jackie Walker.
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He's an openly gay male
teacher, he's a celebrity.
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He gets accused of pedophilia?
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I mean, the charges may go
away, but the stain won't.
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I'm touched by your concern.
We'll keep it in mind.
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You're SVU detectives?
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I need to know what
this is all about.
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We have a warrant.
Just let us do our job.
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This is the other
bathroom on Jonah's floor.
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Bluebirds and flowers.
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- And that's your music room?
- Mm-hm.
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Your son has a great
voice, but for now,
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what we do in class
should be fun.
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I saw a video on YouTube.
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The girl was three,
singing opera.
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Jackie Walker?
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Excuse me, I'm with a parent.
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Allison, could you
give us a minute?
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Well, that's rude.
What is this about?
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Where do you keep
your rhythm instruments?
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- In the bin on that shelf.
- You mean this one here?
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Yeah, that's my
clap-and-play box.
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What's that?
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I don't know.
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Part of your
clap-and-play lesson?
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I don't know what that is.
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[Device rattling]
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Does anybody
else teach in here?
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There are students and faculty
in and out of here all day.
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After school
"music together" classes.
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Did my producer
put you up to this?
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Am I being punk'd?
This is no joke.
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We have some questions
we need to ask you.
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About that?
That's not mine.
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You don't want to do this here.
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He's 4 years old. This is horrible!
I would never harm a child.
259
00:12:46,436 --> 00:12:48,169
So you're saying he lied to us?
260
00:12:48,204 --> 00:12:52,310
I don't know what to think.
He does tell stories.
261
00:12:52,345 --> 00:12:54,448
You should hear the songs
he makes up in class.
262
00:12:54,449 --> 00:12:57,351
But the story he told us
about the purple eggs
263
00:12:57,385 --> 00:12:58,618
turned out to be true.
264
00:12:58,653 --> 00:13:01,288
Those egg-shakers
are not mine.
265
00:13:01,322 --> 00:13:03,974
Well, first of all,
they're not egg-shakers.
266
00:13:04,008 --> 00:13:06,143
They're sex toys, and he
said that you used them
267
00:13:06,177 --> 00:13:07,894
to tickle him.
268
00:13:07,929 --> 00:13:09,880
I did not.
I've never even seen them.
269
00:13:09,914 --> 00:13:11,815
Did you ever do anything
with Jonah that he might
270
00:13:11,849 --> 00:13:13,517
have misinterpreted?
271
00:13:13,551 --> 00:13:15,102
Like what?
272
00:13:15,136 --> 00:13:16,770
Adjust his zipper?
Touch him somewhere?
273
00:13:16,804 --> 00:13:18,772
Stop.
I am not a child molester.
274
00:13:18,806 --> 00:13:20,273
It's okay.
275
00:13:20,308 --> 00:13:22,109
Have you ever been
alone with Jonah,
276
00:13:22,143 --> 00:13:25,278
maybe in a private
bathroom at school?
277
00:13:25,313 --> 00:13:26,897
No.
278
00:13:26,931 --> 00:13:29,900
Never.
279
00:13:29,934 --> 00:13:32,903
You think I'd put myself
alone with a boy
280
00:13:32,937 --> 00:13:34,604
in a private bathroom?
281
00:13:34,622 --> 00:13:37,391
Maybe he got sick.
Maybe he fell.
282
00:13:37,425 --> 00:13:38,775
You know, you go
into the bathroom,
283
00:13:38,793 --> 00:13:39,993
you play doctor...
284
00:13:40,044 --> 00:13:41,962
Stop.
Stop.
285
00:13:41,996 --> 00:13:46,333
All I do is teach kids music.
286
00:13:46,384 --> 00:13:49,586
We clap, they sing,
we have a great time together.
287
00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:51,287
Okay.
288
00:13:51,305 --> 00:13:56,259
So let me ask you a question.
You're on this TV show,
289
00:13:56,293 --> 00:14:00,514
you have this big, thriving
career coaching singers.
290
00:14:00,565 --> 00:14:04,851
Why are you still
teaching preschoolers?
291
00:14:04,902 --> 00:14:07,954
Because I actually
care about the job I do.
292
00:14:07,989 --> 00:14:10,323
Kids need music in their lives.
293
00:14:10,358 --> 00:14:11,975
The early years are important.
294
00:14:11,993 --> 00:14:14,661
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, they are.
295
00:14:14,695 --> 00:14:16,479
Do you have children
of your own?
296
00:14:16,497 --> 00:14:18,615
No.
297
00:14:18,649 --> 00:14:21,802
Someday, if I meet
the right man.
298
00:14:21,836 --> 00:14:24,004
Okay.
Yeah, but you know kids.
299
00:14:24,038 --> 00:14:26,540
I mean, at this age, they
jump all over you, right?
300
00:14:26,591 --> 00:14:28,458
They touch you in
the strangest places,
301
00:14:28,492 --> 00:14:29,960
they like to wrestle,
get tickled...
302
00:14:29,994 --> 00:14:32,129
Okay, that's enough.
You know what?
303
00:14:32,163 --> 00:14:36,783
You two aren't paying
attention to me,
304
00:14:36,818 --> 00:14:40,604
so I'm going to need my lawyer.
305
00:14:42,140 --> 00:14:44,558
Jackie said
the magic word... lawyer.
306
00:14:44,609 --> 00:14:46,026
No surprise.
307
00:14:46,060 --> 00:14:47,644
Maybe he's innocent.
308
00:14:47,678 --> 00:14:49,512
I mean, you guys were
going at him pretty hard.
309
00:14:49,530 --> 00:14:51,898
You're the one who found the
eggs where Jonah said they were.
310
00:14:51,949 --> 00:14:53,817
Look, he was being
defensive, making excuses.
311
00:14:53,851 --> 00:14:55,035
He's lying about something.
312
00:14:55,069 --> 00:14:56,403
Okay, where are
we on forensics?
313
00:14:56,454 --> 00:14:58,038
I will put in another call.
314
00:14:58,072 --> 00:14:59,739
Pedigree.
So he's been a music teacher
315
00:14:59,791 --> 00:15:00,907
at Margaret Fuller how long?
316
00:15:00,958 --> 00:15:02,492
12 years.
317
00:15:02,527 --> 00:15:04,694
I mean, the guy's worked
on Broadway, and off...
318
00:15:04,712 --> 00:15:07,530
Mostly off...
A vocal coach.
319
00:15:07,548 --> 00:15:08,865
The usual freelance mix.
320
00:15:08,883 --> 00:15:11,201
And no other accusations?
Sudden departures?
321
00:15:11,219 --> 00:15:13,203
Exactly the opposite.
322
00:15:13,221 --> 00:15:16,423
The guy was popular even before
he got this American diva gig.
323
00:15:16,474 --> 00:15:18,925
That's going to change.
Everyone loved elmo, too.
324
00:15:18,976 --> 00:15:21,645
All off the word
of one four-year-old.
325
00:15:21,679 --> 00:15:24,431
And the sex toys.
Look, he's grooming Jonah.
326
00:15:24,482 --> 00:15:27,434
He may well be,
but rollins is right.
327
00:15:27,485 --> 00:15:29,236
Hard to bring a case like
this on the testimony
328
00:15:29,270 --> 00:15:30,487
of a boy that young.
329
00:15:30,521 --> 00:15:32,739
He was consistent,
and not by rote.
330
00:15:32,773 --> 00:15:34,574
He's also got
an active imagination.
331
00:15:34,609 --> 00:15:38,662
At that age, the line between
reality and fantasy does blur.
332
00:15:38,696 --> 00:15:40,063
And that's the problem.
333
00:15:40,081 --> 00:15:42,565
I believe Jonah, but no judge
will find him swearable.
334
00:15:44,702 --> 00:15:46,670
What do you want
from us, counselor?
335
00:15:46,704 --> 00:15:48,171
More.
336
00:15:48,206 --> 00:15:49,873
He was grooming Jonah
with these sex toys.
337
00:15:49,907 --> 00:15:52,042
There have to be other kids.
338
00:15:52,076 --> 00:15:54,878
I'll call the principal,
put some fear into him.
339
00:15:59,467 --> 00:16:02,385
Your principal told us
that you didn't want to go
340
00:16:02,420 --> 00:16:06,706
to music class
last week, Cooper.
341
00:16:06,741 --> 00:16:09,009
Uhhuh.
342
00:16:09,043 --> 00:16:11,611
I told the nurse my tummy hurt.
343
00:16:11,646 --> 00:16:13,396
Did your tummy hurt?
344
00:16:13,430 --> 00:16:15,065
No.
345
00:16:15,099 --> 00:16:19,152
Then why didn't you
want to go to music class?
346
00:16:19,203 --> 00:16:22,289
You can tell me.
347
00:16:22,323 --> 00:16:25,959
Because Mr. Jackie
does bad things.
348
00:16:25,993 --> 00:16:29,713
What does Mr. Jackie do?
349
00:16:29,747 --> 00:16:33,996
He came into the bathroom
at school when I was all alone.
350
00:16:35,987 --> 00:16:40,891
And what did that
bathroom look like?
351
00:16:40,925 --> 00:16:43,143
There's a window above the tub.
352
00:16:43,177 --> 00:16:45,645
The glass has birds
and pink flowers.
353
00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,931
The tub?
354
00:16:47,965 --> 00:16:53,636
- There's a bathtub?
- I mean the sink.
355
00:16:53,654 --> 00:16:55,305
Oh.
356
00:16:55,323 --> 00:16:57,908
That's where he plays the game.
357
00:16:57,942 --> 00:17:00,310
Tell me about the game.
358
00:17:00,328 --> 00:17:01,912
I can't.
359
00:17:01,946 --> 00:17:06,166
He said it was our secret,
so nobody could know.
360
00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,336
Your secret?
Okay.
361
00:17:09,370 --> 00:17:12,505
Can you tell me?
362
00:17:12,540 --> 00:17:15,625
He has extra-special
purple magic eggs.
363
00:17:15,659 --> 00:17:18,795
He tickles me with them.
364
00:17:20,715 --> 00:17:23,833
Mmhmm.
365
00:17:23,851 --> 00:17:26,886
Can you show me where?
366
00:17:32,393 --> 00:17:35,228
No, Gail, I don't know yet.
The principal called.
367
00:17:35,279 --> 00:17:37,347
Something happened
to Cooper at school.
368
00:17:37,365 --> 00:17:39,950
No. No, hang on.
369
00:17:39,984 --> 00:17:41,651
Yeah... hello?
No, no, I'm on with Gail.
370
00:17:41,685 --> 00:17:43,703
Okay, Mrs. burns, can you
hang up the phone, please?
371
00:17:43,738 --> 00:17:45,155
Okay.
Call Jennifer.
372
00:17:45,189 --> 00:17:46,539
Wyatt is in
Mr. Jackie's class, too.
373
00:17:46,574 --> 00:17:47,857
Please.
Please, please.
374
00:17:47,875 --> 00:17:49,125
Okay.
375
00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,794
What happened to my little boy?
376
00:17:50,828 --> 00:17:52,362
We're trying to
figure that out.
377
00:17:52,380 --> 00:17:54,497
Last week, he skipped class.
378
00:17:54,531 --> 00:17:55,882
He said he was feeling sick.
379
00:17:55,916 --> 00:17:57,500
I thought maybe it
was something he ate.
380
00:17:57,534 --> 00:17:59,469
Is there anything else
that you can think of that
381
00:17:59,503 --> 00:18:03,006
happened at school that may
seem out of the ordinary?
382
00:18:06,060 --> 00:18:07,844
Oh, my God.
383
00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:12,065
A month ago, Cooper came
home without his underwear.
384
00:18:15,186 --> 00:18:17,270
He told me he had an accident.
385
00:18:20,157 --> 00:18:21,775
The second complainant,
Cooper burns,
386
00:18:21,826 --> 00:18:23,743
was also four years old.
387
00:18:23,778 --> 00:18:25,362
The two boys'
stories are similar?
388
00:18:25,396 --> 00:18:27,414
Well, both of them
described the purple magic eggs,
389
00:18:27,448 --> 00:18:29,082
both of them said it happened
in the bathroom at school.
390
00:18:29,116 --> 00:18:31,034
But their descriptions
of the bathroom were different.
391
00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:34,037
Cooper described
a window and a bathtub.
392
00:18:34,071 --> 00:18:36,006
I mean, there's no tub
in the school bathroom.
393
00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,124
Right, but I would be more
concerned if the language
394
00:18:38,175 --> 00:18:39,376
was exactly the same.
395
00:18:39,410 --> 00:18:40,627
Exactly.
396
00:18:40,678 --> 00:18:42,796
Thanks, Fin.
397
00:18:42,847 --> 00:18:46,549
Uh, I didn't want to
see this coming.
398
00:18:46,583 --> 00:18:49,686
Jonah's saliva was
recovered on the sex toys,
399
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,255
along with fecal bacteria.
400
00:18:52,273 --> 00:18:54,524
So he wasn't just
tickling these boys.
401
00:18:54,558 --> 00:18:57,027
And there's
a second unknown sample.
402
00:18:57,061 --> 00:18:59,863
So it could be Cooper,
so let's have them run that.
403
00:18:59,897 --> 00:19:02,098
How about Jackie?
Prints? DNA?
404
00:19:02,116 --> 00:19:06,102
No, and a lot of people
have access to that room.
405
00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:09,406
Those kids told us
that he used eggs,
406
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,658
they told us where
he kept them,
407
00:19:11,709 --> 00:19:13,209
and now you have the DNA.
408
00:19:13,244 --> 00:19:16,830
But you wanted more, counselor.
What are we waiting for?
409
00:19:24,175 --> 00:19:26,809
We have Jonah
and Cooper's DNA
410
00:19:26,810 --> 00:19:29,332
on the sex toys that we
found in your classroom.
411
00:19:29,333 --> 00:19:30,634
What? DNA?
412
00:19:30,668 --> 00:19:31,935
What the hell are
you talking about?
413
00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:33,837
- Jackie, please.
- Please what?
414
00:19:33,855 --> 00:19:35,939
You're here to help me and
you're sitting on your ass!
415
00:19:35,974 --> 00:19:37,340
I'm doing my job.
They've made their allegations.
416
00:19:37,358 --> 00:19:39,277
- We take it from here.
- Jackie, one more chance.
417
00:19:39,311 --> 00:19:40,645
Now you told us you were
never in a bathroom
418
00:19:40,679 --> 00:19:42,146
- with any of the boys.
- That's right.
419
00:19:42,180 --> 00:19:43,814
The problem is we're
hearing otherwise.
420
00:19:43,848 --> 00:19:45,516
- What?
- Two other moms came forward.
421
00:19:45,534 --> 00:19:49,153
Their kids saw you go into
the bathroom with Cooper.
422
00:19:49,187 --> 00:19:52,907
Now do you want to
tell us what happened?
423
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:57,912
All right, um...
424
00:19:57,963 --> 00:19:59,497
Cooper burns is
one of my students.
425
00:19:59,531 --> 00:20:01,415
Uhhuh.
426
00:20:01,466 --> 00:20:03,801
He fell into the toilet.
427
00:20:03,835 --> 00:20:06,721
- Oh, my God.
- I'm telling the truth.
428
00:20:06,755 --> 00:20:08,422
Why'd you lie before?
429
00:20:08,473 --> 00:20:10,091
What was I going to do?
430
00:20:10,142 --> 00:20:12,543
Admit to being alone in a
bathroom with a little boy
431
00:20:12,561 --> 00:20:14,595
when you were accusing me
of being a child molester?
432
00:20:14,646 --> 00:20:16,514
Would have been better
than lying, Jackie.
433
00:20:16,548 --> 00:20:18,048
Why'd you tell
Cooper it was a secret.
434
00:20:18,066 --> 00:20:19,383
I mean, if nothing happened...
435
00:20:19,401 --> 00:20:21,569
He was embarrassed.
He was crying.
436
00:20:21,603 --> 00:20:25,740
I didn't hurt that boy.
437
00:20:25,774 --> 00:20:30,278
I was helping him.
438
00:20:30,329 --> 00:20:31,895
I was saving him
from the shame.
439
00:20:31,913 --> 00:20:33,364
Whose shame, Jackie?
His or yours?
440
00:20:33,398 --> 00:20:34,782
He went home
without any underwear.
441
00:20:34,833 --> 00:20:36,584
They were soaking wet!
442
00:20:36,618 --> 00:20:39,036
And you never thought to tell
his mother what happened, huh?
443
00:20:39,070 --> 00:20:41,071
- Send an email?
- Okay, okay.
444
00:20:41,089 --> 00:20:45,092
I should have, but she didn't
do the pickup that day,
445
00:20:45,127 --> 00:20:46,377
and I had to go.
446
00:20:46,411 --> 00:20:47,595
We were taping the show.
447
00:20:47,629 --> 00:20:49,046
So that's three excuses.
448
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,434
Which one do you think
we should go with?
449
00:20:53,468 --> 00:20:57,921
I didn't do anything to
either one of those boys.
450
00:20:57,939 --> 00:20:59,140
You have to believe me!
451
00:20:59,191 --> 00:21:00,558
No, we don't.
452
00:21:00,592 --> 00:21:02,259
Tell your client
what's coming down,
453
00:21:02,277 --> 00:21:04,312
what happens to guys who let
this go to a public trial.
454
00:21:04,363 --> 00:21:05,896
Wait.
No, no, no, no!
455
00:21:05,930 --> 00:21:08,115
You had your chance, pal.
456
00:21:08,150 --> 00:21:09,784
I feel terrible for those boys,
457
00:21:09,818 --> 00:21:12,203
and I thought I knew him,
but I guess I didn't.
458
00:21:12,237 --> 00:21:15,323
- What's going on?
- A feeding frenzy started.
459
00:21:15,374 --> 00:21:18,376
All of us at American diva
are deeply troubled by these
460
00:21:18,410 --> 00:21:21,912
allegations, and are
taking them very seriously.
461
00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:23,964
While the investigation
is ongoing,
462
00:21:23,999 --> 00:21:27,835
Jackie Walker has agreed to
take a leave of absence
463
00:21:27,869 --> 00:21:30,604
so he can focus on his defense.
464
00:21:30,639 --> 00:21:33,341
Thank you.
No questions at this time.
465
00:21:33,392 --> 00:21:36,794
Isn't that the guy who got
his wife's sister pregnant?
466
00:21:36,812 --> 00:21:39,013
He didn't molest kids.
467
00:21:39,047 --> 00:21:41,399
Are we sure Jackie did?
468
00:21:41,433 --> 00:21:43,684
Why, just because
he's charming?
469
00:21:43,735 --> 00:21:45,353
Look, we've seen this
before, all right?
470
00:21:45,404 --> 00:21:49,473
We have the DNA, Liv and I
were in the box with him.
471
00:21:49,491 --> 00:21:52,026
Yeah, all I'm saying...
472
00:21:52,077 --> 00:21:54,545
We all know that Liv is
working through some things,
473
00:21:54,579 --> 00:21:59,200
and her judgment...
474
00:21:59,251 --> 00:22:02,753
I just think that she's
pushing this one too hard.
475
00:22:02,788 --> 00:22:05,423
I'm going to side
with my partner here.
476
00:22:05,457 --> 00:22:06,741
Of course you are.
477
00:22:11,980 --> 00:22:14,548
Jackie Walker, you are
charged with two counts of
478
00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:17,802
aggravated sexual abuse of
a minor in the first degree.
479
00:22:17,836 --> 00:22:20,221
Plea?
Not guilty, your honor.
480
00:22:20,255 --> 00:22:23,474
This rush to judgment against
my client has been appalling.
481
00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,593
To be covered in
trial, counselor.
482
00:22:25,627 --> 00:22:28,479
Your honor, Mr. Walker
has access to resources,
483
00:22:28,513 --> 00:22:30,564
both monetary and logistical.
484
00:22:30,615 --> 00:22:33,317
He has ties to
the community, no record,
485
00:22:33,351 --> 00:22:35,686
and a reputation
he wants to defend.
486
00:22:35,704 --> 00:22:36,987
We may be past
that, your honor.
487
00:22:37,021 --> 00:22:38,789
Agreed.
488
00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:40,908
Given the nature of these
charges and the defendant's
489
00:22:40,959 --> 00:22:44,528
resources, bail is
set at one million.
490
00:22:44,546 --> 00:22:47,465
[Gavel knocks]
491
00:22:47,499 --> 00:22:51,368
[Shutters clicking]
492
00:22:51,386 --> 00:22:56,006
Jackie?
Jackie?
493
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,508
Did you hear any of that?
494
00:22:57,542 --> 00:22:59,977
Yeah.
I don't have that.
495
00:23:00,011 --> 00:23:01,545
Is there someone you can call?
496
00:23:01,563 --> 00:23:03,347
A friend?
Family?
497
00:23:03,381 --> 00:23:06,049
My own brother won't
return my phone calls.
498
00:23:06,067 --> 00:23:09,069
I don't have anybody.
499
00:23:13,224 --> 00:23:15,776
He can't make bail, seriously?
500
00:23:15,827 --> 00:23:17,528
He was only on
that show for a year.
501
00:23:17,562 --> 00:23:18,946
Before that, he was
a music teacher.
502
00:23:18,997 --> 00:23:20,781
This is a classic
predator move.
503
00:23:20,832 --> 00:23:22,299
He wants everyone to
feel sorry for him.
504
00:23:22,334 --> 00:23:24,084
Nothing's his fault.
505
00:23:32,225 --> 00:23:34,625
Hi. Thank you so much
for taking me early.
506
00:23:34,626 --> 00:23:36,293
No problem.
507
00:23:36,327 --> 00:23:39,284
Things have been
so crazy at work.
508
00:23:39,319 --> 00:23:41,956
- Just happy you're here.
- Thank you.
509
00:23:45,009 --> 00:23:46,890
So how are you?
510
00:23:46,925 --> 00:23:49,561
I wish people
would stop asking me that.
511
00:23:51,859 --> 00:23:53,810
Sorry, I'm just...
512
00:23:53,844 --> 00:23:56,062
You say things
have been crazy at work.
513
00:23:56,113 --> 00:23:58,148
This case
that I've been working on...
514
00:23:58,182 --> 00:23:59,733
With those young boys?
515
00:23:59,784 --> 00:24:01,034
Yeah.
516
00:24:01,068 --> 00:24:03,686
I saw your name in the paper.
517
00:24:03,704 --> 00:24:06,389
You know, sometimes I...
518
00:24:06,424 --> 00:24:07,974
[Chuckles]
519
00:24:08,008 --> 00:24:10,026
I feel like I'm playing
whac-a-mole, you know?
520
00:24:10,060 --> 00:24:11,861
You just knock one down,
and then three pop up,
521
00:24:11,879 --> 00:24:14,497
and it's just over and over
and over and, you know,
522
00:24:14,531 --> 00:24:17,383
but then I think...
523
00:24:17,418 --> 00:24:20,620
Even if I save one...
524
00:24:20,654 --> 00:24:23,256
Is that how you
think of yourself,
525
00:24:23,307 --> 00:24:26,075
as a savior?
526
00:24:28,312 --> 00:24:30,330
Someone has to protect them.
527
00:24:30,364 --> 00:24:32,548
Yes, but does it
always have to be you?
528
00:24:32,566 --> 00:24:35,819
- It's my job.
- You ever wondered why?
529
00:24:39,323 --> 00:24:40,857
Just say what you're thinking.
530
00:24:40,891 --> 00:24:42,759
You've spent
so much of your life
531
00:24:42,793 --> 00:24:44,194
taking care of others,
532
00:24:44,228 --> 00:24:47,197
yet this last week,
I found myself thinking,
533
00:24:47,231 --> 00:24:50,884
all these sessions, you've
never mentioned your parents.
534
00:24:50,918 --> 00:24:52,735
Hmm.
535
00:24:52,770 --> 00:24:55,088
I couldn't help but wonder...
536
00:24:57,424 --> 00:24:59,659
When you were a little girl,
537
00:24:59,693 --> 00:25:01,878
did someone take care of you?
538
00:25:10,321 --> 00:25:13,072
So whose idea was it?
539
00:25:13,123 --> 00:25:15,325
It was his idea.
540
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,962
Okay, and when you
played this game,
541
00:25:18,996 --> 00:25:20,964
how did it make you feel?
542
00:25:22,366 --> 00:25:24,918
It felt uncomfortable.
543
00:25:24,952 --> 00:25:26,820
Uncomfortable.
544
00:25:26,854 --> 00:25:29,005
Okay.
545
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:33,309
Mr. Jackie is a bad man.
546
00:25:33,344 --> 00:25:35,812
Mr. Jackie
played the game with me.
547
00:25:35,846 --> 00:25:37,981
Can you tell me about the game?
548
00:25:38,015 --> 00:25:41,184
It was inappropriate.
549
00:25:41,218 --> 00:25:42,719
Why is he a bad man, Emma?
550
00:25:42,753 --> 00:25:45,805
'Cause he is.
Even my mom says he is.
551
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,473
She does?
552
00:25:47,525 --> 00:25:50,527
Yeah, so I think
he's a bad man too.
553
00:25:50,561 --> 00:25:52,445
Another one.
554
00:25:52,479 --> 00:25:53,980
How many allegations is that?
555
00:25:54,014 --> 00:25:55,215
Nine, and counting.
556
00:25:55,249 --> 00:25:56,783
Two more moms just called.
557
00:25:56,817 --> 00:25:58,034
Boys and girls?
558
00:25:58,068 --> 00:25:59,285
It's not unheard of.
559
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,204
In England, Jimmy Savile...
560
00:26:01,238 --> 00:26:03,072
I know.
I know, I know.
561
00:26:03,107 --> 00:26:05,308
Hundreds of boys and girls
with a wide range of ages...
562
00:26:05,342 --> 00:26:06,910
Tell me that's not
what we're looking at.
563
00:26:06,944 --> 00:26:08,578
So far, no.
564
00:26:08,612 --> 00:26:10,964
All of the victims
are preschoolers
565
00:26:10,998 --> 00:26:12,131
at Margaret Fuller.
566
00:26:12,166 --> 00:26:15,552
They all claim
that Jackie Walker tickled them.
567
00:26:15,586 --> 00:26:16,803
All current?
568
00:26:16,837 --> 00:26:18,087
Yeah.
569
00:26:18,121 --> 00:26:19,589
So all too young to testify?
570
00:26:19,623 --> 00:26:21,474
There are a couple
of older siblings.
571
00:26:21,508 --> 00:26:23,593
- How old?
- Six, seven.
572
00:26:23,627 --> 00:26:25,395
Still not swearable
to most judges.
573
00:26:25,429 --> 00:26:27,597
So we've got no testimony.
574
00:26:27,631 --> 00:26:31,601
His prints
aren't on this egg thing.
575
00:26:31,635 --> 00:26:33,403
We still don't have a case.
576
00:26:33,437 --> 00:26:34,888
Have any of the older students
come forward?
577
00:26:34,922 --> 00:26:37,290
- No, not one.
- But that's not unusual.
578
00:26:37,324 --> 00:26:39,492
I mean, the Savile assaults
went unreported for decades.
579
00:26:39,526 --> 00:26:41,778
I mean, these parents
have seen the headlines.
580
00:26:41,812 --> 00:26:43,446
They don't want their kids
caught up in it.
581
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,499
The first boy, Jonah,
has an older sister, Brooke.
582
00:26:46,533 --> 00:26:48,284
She's 15.
583
00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:51,087
She studied with Jackie Walker
when she was four.
584
00:26:51,121 --> 00:26:52,455
Did anyone talk to this girl?
585
00:26:52,489 --> 00:26:54,173
I did, yeah.
586
00:26:54,208 --> 00:26:56,259
She was beating herself up
for not protecting Jonah.
587
00:26:56,293 --> 00:26:59,161
She said she felt
like it was her fault.
588
00:26:59,179 --> 00:27:01,514
Maybe she was feeling guilty.
589
00:27:04,368 --> 00:27:07,336
Jackie was my teacher
in pre-k.
590
00:27:07,354 --> 00:27:09,272
I took private lessons
with him for ten years.
591
00:27:09,306 --> 00:27:10,506
Took?
592
00:27:10,524 --> 00:27:12,525
When did you stop?
593
00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:14,677
A couple months ago.
594
00:27:14,695 --> 00:27:16,813
Any reason?
595
00:27:16,847 --> 00:27:19,165
Just lost interest.
596
00:27:19,199 --> 00:27:20,850
Music is like a job.
597
00:27:20,868 --> 00:27:22,201
I wanted to be a normal kid.
598
00:27:22,236 --> 00:27:24,520
Doesn't look like you
lost interest.
599
00:27:24,538 --> 00:27:27,540
You know, Brooke, if, uh...
600
00:27:27,574 --> 00:27:29,492
If Jackie did anything,
601
00:27:29,526 --> 00:27:33,029
you know, that made you
feel uncomfortable...
602
00:27:33,047 --> 00:27:35,031
Well, you know music teachers.
603
00:27:35,049 --> 00:27:38,501
Like, everything
is like sex to them.
604
00:27:38,535 --> 00:27:40,386
Jackie and I
would work on a piece,
605
00:27:40,421 --> 00:27:43,873
and Jackie would say to imagine
I was kissing a boy.
606
00:27:43,891 --> 00:27:45,224
Did he ever touch you?
607
00:27:45,259 --> 00:27:46,476
Me?
No, no.
608
00:27:46,510 --> 00:27:48,061
Jackie touches little kids.
609
00:27:48,095 --> 00:27:49,762
Guy's a total creep.
610
00:27:49,813 --> 00:27:53,232
Yeah, but, Brooke,
when you studied with Jackie,
611
00:27:53,267 --> 00:27:55,568
you were a little kid.
612
00:27:56,820 --> 00:27:59,722
Brooke?
613
00:27:59,757 --> 00:28:04,911
Hey, did Jackie ever touch you?
614
00:28:11,335 --> 00:28:12,769
It's okay.
615
00:28:12,803 --> 00:28:15,304
No.
No, it's not.
616
00:28:15,339 --> 00:28:16,756
If I would have
told my parents,
617
00:28:16,807 --> 00:28:18,424
none of this
would have happened to Jonah.
618
00:28:18,475 --> 00:28:20,309
I just...
619
00:28:20,344 --> 00:28:23,896
Jackie, I promised him
it was our little secret.
620
00:28:26,350 --> 00:28:30,036
Brooke, you know
what Jackie did was wrong,
621
00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:33,656
and you don't have
to hide it anymore.
622
00:28:33,691 --> 00:28:36,576
It's okay.
623
00:28:36,610 --> 00:28:40,913
He started out tickling me.
624
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,301
He made it all seem so normal,
625
00:28:45,335 --> 00:28:48,204
like this is what students
and teachers did.
626
00:28:48,238 --> 00:28:50,506
I didn't know it was wrong.
627
00:28:50,541 --> 00:28:53,176
Hehe touched you.
628
00:28:53,210 --> 00:28:56,329
Anything else?
629
00:28:56,363 --> 00:28:59,465
Uh...
630
00:28:59,516 --> 00:29:05,221
He had these eggs.
631
00:29:05,255 --> 00:29:08,858
Toys... they vibrated.
632
00:29:10,927 --> 00:29:13,563
I thought
they were instruments.
633
00:29:13,597 --> 00:29:17,784
He had me, uh,
put them inside me,
634
00:29:17,818 --> 00:29:22,205
and he'd watch
and touch himself.
635
00:29:22,239 --> 00:29:26,108
How old were you when...
When it started?
636
00:29:27,544 --> 00:29:30,663
Four, just like Jonah.
637
00:29:30,714 --> 00:29:32,632
Did you tell your mom or dad?
638
00:29:32,666 --> 00:29:34,667
No, okay, and you can't
tell them, please.
639
00:29:34,718 --> 00:29:36,385
They'll be so mad.
640
00:29:36,420 --> 00:29:38,254
Well, honey, they're
going to have to find out.
641
00:29:38,288 --> 00:29:39,555
Not now, okay?
642
00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:41,140
You cannot do this,
please, please!
643
00:29:41,175 --> 00:29:44,343
Okay, so you didn't tell
your mom and dad.
644
00:29:44,394 --> 00:29:47,180
Did you tell anyone?
645
00:29:47,231 --> 00:29:48,414
[Knock at door]
646
00:29:48,449 --> 00:29:50,316
Rachel, open the door.
647
00:29:50,350 --> 00:29:51,984
Sorry, mom.
I couldn't hear you.
648
00:29:52,019 --> 00:29:54,070
The water was running.
649
00:29:54,104 --> 00:29:55,738
Honey, do you have a second?
650
00:29:55,773 --> 00:29:59,275
Olivia and Amanda
would like to talk to us.
651
00:29:59,309 --> 00:30:01,410
Um, not really.
652
00:30:01,445 --> 00:30:03,112
I haven't checked
Cooper's teeth yet,
653
00:30:03,146 --> 00:30:04,781
and then I need to read him
his story.
654
00:30:04,815 --> 00:30:07,700
How about I go ahead
and take care of that?
655
00:30:07,751 --> 00:30:10,503
That way the three of you
can talk, okay?
656
00:30:10,537 --> 00:30:12,538
Is that all right
with you, Cooper?
657
00:30:12,589 --> 00:30:14,040
Can we go in another room?
658
00:30:14,091 --> 00:30:15,625
Um, why?
I don't...
659
00:30:15,659 --> 00:30:17,927
Rachel, it's important.
660
00:30:17,961 --> 00:30:20,263
- Just take a second.
- Help you brush?
661
00:30:20,297 --> 00:30:21,964
That's it, nice work.
662
00:30:21,998 --> 00:30:23,850
Getting all the way
in the back... that's good.
663
00:30:23,884 --> 00:30:25,885
Huh.
664
00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:39,899
What a pretty window.
665
00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:43,236
Those pink flowers,
you like those?
666
00:30:43,287 --> 00:30:45,688
- Uh-huh.
- Oh, me too.
667
00:30:47,691 --> 00:30:51,627
Cooper, has Mr. Jackie
ever been to your house,
668
00:30:51,662 --> 00:30:56,048
maybe given you a bath here?
669
00:30:56,083 --> 00:30:57,500
Uhuh.
Never.
670
00:30:57,534 --> 00:31:00,753
He's only at school.
671
00:31:00,804 --> 00:31:04,206
Can you tell me
who does give you your baths?
672
00:31:09,012 --> 00:31:10,813
Basically, they were vibrators.
673
00:31:10,848 --> 00:31:12,098
Rachel...
674
00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:13,983
I'm sorry, mom.
675
00:31:14,017 --> 00:31:16,018
I've seen them in some
of the other mom's bedrooms.
676
00:31:17,771 --> 00:31:19,472
He used them on me.
677
00:31:19,506 --> 00:31:21,824
He said we were playing doctor.
678
00:31:21,859 --> 00:31:24,694
I'm sorry to interrupt.
679
00:31:24,728 --> 00:31:25,945
Rollins, what are you doing?
680
00:31:25,996 --> 00:31:27,163
Can I talk to you?
681
00:31:27,197 --> 00:31:28,447
Yeah, now's not a good time.
682
00:31:28,498 --> 00:31:29,832
I understand that.
683
00:31:29,867 --> 00:31:31,767
Could you excuse us
for just a moment?
684
00:31:31,802 --> 00:31:34,236
I just need to chat
with my partner.
685
00:31:34,254 --> 00:31:35,621
I'm sorry, Rachel.
686
00:31:35,672 --> 00:31:37,924
Sweetie, it's okay.
687
00:31:37,958 --> 00:31:40,426
Wow, Amanda, you were right.
688
00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:43,412
That window is pretty,
689
00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:48,634
with the pink flowers
and the blue birds.
690
00:31:48,685 --> 00:31:50,419
Blue's my favorite color.
691
00:31:50,437 --> 00:31:53,105
Cooper also told me that he
sometimes takes his baths
692
00:31:53,140 --> 00:31:54,924
here with Jonah.
693
00:31:54,942 --> 00:31:56,442
By yourself?
694
00:31:56,476 --> 00:31:59,929
Wow, you two are big boys.
695
00:31:59,947 --> 00:32:03,149
No, with mommy and Rachel.
696
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,700
Oh.
697
00:32:04,735 --> 00:32:06,769
Or sometimes Brooke.
698
00:32:06,787 --> 00:32:07,987
Jonah's sister?
699
00:32:08,038 --> 00:32:09,272
Uhhuh.
700
00:32:09,306 --> 00:32:13,459
And Mr. Jackie
was never here.
701
00:32:13,493 --> 00:32:15,294
No.
702
00:32:15,329 --> 00:32:19,382
He came into the bathroom
at school
703
00:32:19,416 --> 00:32:22,051
when I was all alone,
704
00:32:22,085 --> 00:32:25,554
only he said it was our secret
705
00:32:25,589 --> 00:32:27,306
so nobody could know.
706
00:32:27,341 --> 00:32:29,508
Your secret?
707
00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:32,511
About the eggs?
708
00:32:32,546 --> 00:32:35,348
He has extra special
purple magic eggs.
709
00:32:35,399 --> 00:32:36,983
He tickles me with them.
710
00:32:39,069 --> 00:32:40,353
Cooper, you know the difference
711
00:32:40,404 --> 00:32:43,739
between the truth and a lie?
712
00:32:43,774 --> 00:32:45,157
Mmhmm.
713
00:32:45,192 --> 00:32:47,243
A lie is when something
is not real.
714
00:32:47,277 --> 00:32:48,494
That's exactly right.
715
00:32:48,528 --> 00:32:54,176
So can you tell us more
about where you played doctor?
716
00:32:55,535 --> 00:32:57,036
The school bathroom.
717
00:32:57,087 --> 00:32:59,488
There's flowers and birds.
718
00:32:59,506 --> 00:33:01,874
You also said
that there was a bathtub
719
00:33:01,925 --> 00:33:03,325
and a window.
720
00:33:03,343 --> 00:33:05,044
Mm...
721
00:33:05,078 --> 00:33:07,763
Hey, Cooper, you've got
a really good memory.
722
00:33:07,798 --> 00:33:09,765
Thank you.
723
00:33:11,435 --> 00:33:13,619
Is it hard to remember
this story
724
00:33:13,654 --> 00:33:15,688
and the way it was told to you?
725
00:33:20,277 --> 00:33:21,477
Very hard.
726
00:33:21,511 --> 00:33:24,480
Sometimes I forget things.
Then I remember.
727
00:33:24,514 --> 00:33:26,916
You remember.
728
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:31,787
So someone told you
to tell this story.
729
00:33:35,075 --> 00:33:37,026
Yes.
730
00:33:37,044 --> 00:33:38,344
Yes.
731
00:33:38,378 --> 00:33:40,796
Can you tell us
who that was, Cooper?
732
00:33:43,166 --> 00:33:44,700
It was Brooke.
733
00:33:44,718 --> 00:33:49,055
She said I was a big boy
and she knew I could remember.
734
00:33:57,574 --> 00:33:59,297
Cooper was coached to lie by Brooke?
735
00:33:59,298 --> 00:34:01,700
And it's most likely
that Jonah was, too.
736
00:34:02,451 --> 00:34:04,486
Cooper mixed up the details.
737
00:34:04,537 --> 00:34:06,488
He conflated his home bathroom
with that of the school's.
738
00:34:06,539 --> 00:34:07,989
What about the other
eight complainants?
739
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,657
Brooke and Rac
coached them, too?
740
00:34:09,709 --> 00:34:11,176
No, we're not saying that,
but you know these mothers.
741
00:34:11,210 --> 00:34:13,078
They text with each other 24/7.
742
00:34:13,112 --> 00:34:14,612
I mean, a kid gets lice,
everybody knows who it is
743
00:34:14,630 --> 00:34:16,097
within half an hour.
744
00:34:16,132 --> 00:34:17,799
But we're not talking
about lice here.
745
00:34:17,833 --> 00:34:19,884
I know that, but people
get themselves all worked up
746
00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:21,753
and it ends up taking
on a life of its own.
747
00:34:21,787 --> 00:34:24,389
Extraordinary popular delusions
and the madness of crowds?
748
00:34:24,423 --> 00:34:25,957
Yeah, it could be.
749
00:34:25,975 --> 00:34:28,309
Okay, say the mothers just
whipped up the hysteria.
750
00:34:28,344 --> 00:34:31,363
Brooke and Rachel are
the ones who framed Jackie.
751
00:34:31,398 --> 00:34:32,268
Why?
752
00:34:32,303 --> 00:34:33,965
Brooke and Rachel
disclosed to me last night
753
00:34:33,983 --> 00:34:36,184
that they were both molested
by Jackie when they were four.
754
00:34:36,235 --> 00:34:37,519
So instead of coming forward,
755
00:34:37,570 --> 00:34:41,022
they coached their
younger brothers?
756
00:34:41,073 --> 00:34:42,607
Do you believe them?
757
00:34:42,641 --> 00:34:45,977
Right now...
758
00:34:45,995 --> 00:34:48,496
I don't know what to believe.
759
00:34:48,531 --> 00:34:50,248
Jackie's still at Rikers?
760
00:34:50,282 --> 00:34:53,284
- Yeah.
- Go ask him.
761
00:34:56,438 --> 00:35:00,171
What, they're accusing me now?
I never touched them.
762
00:35:00,206 --> 00:35:01,592
But you did coach them up
until a couple months ago.
763
00:35:01,610 --> 00:35:02,977
Why did they leave you?
764
00:35:03,028 --> 00:35:06,597
They didn't leave me.
I dropped them.
765
00:35:06,615 --> 00:35:10,317
The season was starting and
I had to choose who I was
766
00:35:10,369 --> 00:35:12,453
going to coach
for American diva.
767
00:35:12,487 --> 00:35:15,456
I went with grace.
768
00:35:15,490 --> 00:35:17,491
To make it, you have
to be really special,
769
00:35:17,542 --> 00:35:20,294
and those girls
just really aren't.
770
00:35:20,328 --> 00:35:21,779
Did you tell them that?
771
00:35:21,797 --> 00:35:25,032
Yeah, did them a big favor.
772
00:35:25,067 --> 00:35:27,301
Saved them from ten years
of waiting for a break
773
00:35:27,335 --> 00:35:29,620
that would never come.
774
00:35:29,638 --> 00:35:33,808
And I'm betting they
didn't take that really well.
775
00:35:47,105 --> 00:35:50,107
Oh, my God.
776
00:35:53,945 --> 00:35:57,281
[Sighs]
777
00:35:57,315 --> 00:35:58,982
Brooke and Rachel set him up.
778
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,918
They coached their
brothers to lie.
779
00:36:00,952 --> 00:36:03,587
I mean, that's hardball,
even for teenagers.
780
00:36:03,622 --> 00:36:05,790
Yeah, but Brooke's seen
her mother play hardball
781
00:36:05,824 --> 00:36:07,324
in the divorce.
782
00:36:07,342 --> 00:36:09,176
I mean, kids, you think
they're not paying attention.
783
00:36:09,211 --> 00:36:12,763
They don't miss anything.
784
00:36:12,798 --> 00:36:14,598
Cooper said that he was
molested in a bathroom with
785
00:36:14,633 --> 00:36:17,384
a stained glass
window above the tub,
786
00:36:17,419 --> 00:36:20,438
just like the bathroom
in his bedroom.
787
00:36:20,472 --> 00:36:22,389
So?
788
00:36:22,441 --> 00:36:24,341
Maybe Mr. Jackie gave
him a lesson there.
789
00:36:24,359 --> 00:36:30,281
No, Jackie was never there.
790
00:36:30,315 --> 00:36:32,349
What are you suggesting?
791
00:36:32,367 --> 00:36:36,036
That I molested my
friend's brother?
792
00:36:36,071 --> 00:36:40,775
We're not sure
what all you've done.
793
00:36:40,809 --> 00:36:43,961
He had, like, a power over us.
794
00:36:43,995 --> 00:36:45,729
We'd do anything he said.
795
00:36:45,764 --> 00:36:48,799
Yeah, but then you suddenly
stopped studying with him?
796
00:36:48,834 --> 00:36:50,251
Yeah, we quit.
797
00:36:50,285 --> 00:36:53,687
Or he dropped you
before the audition.
798
00:36:53,722 --> 00:36:55,172
No.
799
00:36:55,206 --> 00:36:56,474
No, I didn't want to
study with him anymore.
800
00:36:56,508 --> 00:36:57,875
He's a pervert.
801
00:36:57,909 --> 00:36:59,376
He touches me and
Brooke all the time.
802
00:36:59,411 --> 00:37:01,128
He touches you?
803
00:37:01,163 --> 00:37:04,047
Because pedophiles
don't usually touch,
804
00:37:04,065 --> 00:37:09,553
they're not interested
in, teenage girls.
805
00:37:09,571 --> 00:37:13,557
We do know that Cooper
said it was very hard to
806
00:37:13,575 --> 00:37:15,693
remember the story
that you told him.
807
00:37:15,727 --> 00:37:17,244
What?
808
00:37:17,279 --> 00:37:18,913
He's four years old.
You can't believe him.
809
00:37:18,947 --> 00:37:23,117
You wanted us to
believe him about Jackie.
810
00:37:23,151 --> 00:37:25,736
Don't let them
talk to me like this.
811
00:37:25,754 --> 00:37:29,106
Rachel, what are they saying?
812
00:37:29,140 --> 00:37:30,925
I didn't do any of this.
813
00:37:30,959 --> 00:37:32,793
So what's going to happen
when we look at your cell phone,
814
00:37:32,844 --> 00:37:34,428
your computer, all your texts,
815
00:37:34,462 --> 00:37:35,679
your search history?
816
00:37:35,714 --> 00:37:36,931
I was just doing research.
817
00:37:36,965 --> 00:37:38,299
You find those
magic eggs online?
818
00:37:38,350 --> 00:37:39,600
You use your
family credit card?
819
00:37:39,634 --> 00:37:41,302
No, no, this wasn't my idea!
820
00:37:41,353 --> 00:37:43,137
Rachel, it's over.
You need to stop lying now.
821
00:37:43,188 --> 00:37:44,522
I'm not lying!
It wasn't my idea!
822
00:37:44,556 --> 00:37:45,773
It's not your idea, Rachel?
823
00:37:45,807 --> 00:37:47,641
Well, then whose idea was it?
824
00:37:51,396 --> 00:37:54,682
Rachel, tell them.
825
00:37:59,538 --> 00:38:03,774
Brooke.
826
00:38:03,792 --> 00:38:08,111
After Jackie dumped
us, she was really mad.
827
00:38:08,129 --> 00:38:12,049
She made the whole thing up,
told me and Cooper what to say.
828
00:38:16,254 --> 00:38:18,722
After all my family
has been through?
829
00:38:18,757 --> 00:38:20,224
We will sue the city!
830
00:38:20,258 --> 00:38:21,508
With false charges?
831
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,093
Just like you
threatened your husband?
832
00:38:23,127 --> 00:38:24,762
Oh, how dare you?
833
00:38:24,796 --> 00:38:26,347
Why would my daughter do this?
834
00:38:26,398 --> 00:38:28,766
Because Jackie dropped
her as a student.
835
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,802
He told you you weren't good
enough for American diva.
836
00:38:31,820 --> 00:38:33,404
He dropped me.
So what?
837
00:38:33,438 --> 00:38:35,472
Okay, I know how good I am,
I know I'm going to be a star,
838
00:38:35,490 --> 00:38:37,575
and my whole life, everybody's
been telling me that.
839
00:38:39,611 --> 00:38:41,278
Okay, it's just
a matter of time.
840
00:38:41,312 --> 00:38:43,146
They've been telling
you that your whole life?
841
00:38:43,164 --> 00:38:45,282
So it must have really sucked
when you found out
842
00:38:45,316 --> 00:38:47,251
everybody was lying to you.
843
00:38:47,285 --> 00:38:51,121
That's not true!
844
00:38:51,155 --> 00:38:52,990
Okay, and I didn't
do this to Jackie,
845
00:38:53,008 --> 00:38:55,509
Jackie did this to me.
846
00:38:59,014 --> 00:39:00,514
Mom, don't let them
get away with this!
847
00:39:00,548 --> 00:39:04,268
I won't, I won't.
Let's go.
848
00:39:04,302 --> 00:39:06,971
- Ms. Allen?
- Yes, what?
849
00:39:07,005 --> 00:39:09,456
You must be really proud
of your daughter.
850
00:39:17,515 --> 00:39:19,633
Upon further investigation,
we have found the charges
851
00:39:19,668 --> 00:39:22,286
against Mr. Walker
to be baseless.
852
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,989
We are asking for all
charges to be dismissed,
853
00:39:25,023 --> 00:39:29,126
and for him to be
released immediately.
854
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,796
We would also like to extend
our sincere apologies
855
00:39:32,831 --> 00:39:35,532
to Mr. Walker and his family.
856
00:39:45,376 --> 00:39:49,013
I know you don't want to
hear any more apologies.
857
00:39:49,047 --> 00:39:50,264
I'm sorry.
858
00:39:50,315 --> 00:39:51,849
You're sorry?
859
00:39:51,883 --> 00:39:54,234
Is that supposed
to make it right?
860
00:39:54,269 --> 00:39:56,520
- I can't imagine...
- No, you can't.
861
00:39:56,554 --> 00:39:59,773
Mr. Walker, if you want us
to talk with the school...
862
00:39:59,824 --> 00:40:03,777
Haven't you done enough?
You all dragged me into this.
863
00:40:03,812 --> 00:40:06,363
I told you from the
beginning that I had nothing
864
00:40:06,397 --> 00:40:10,250
to do with it,
that I was innocent...
865
00:40:10,285 --> 00:40:14,038
And you didn't believe me.
866
00:40:14,072 --> 00:40:16,707
You wouldn't even
listen to my side!
867
00:40:16,741 --> 00:40:18,926
We will work hard
to clear your name.
868
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,844
Clear my name?
My name is ruined.
869
00:40:20,879 --> 00:40:22,680
It was front page news
when you charged me!
870
00:40:22,714 --> 00:40:25,049
You see any cameras
out there today?
871
00:40:25,083 --> 00:40:28,886
I'll never teach again.
My life is over.
872
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,471
Mr. Walker...
873
00:40:30,522 --> 00:40:33,273
And those two girls,
874
00:40:33,308 --> 00:40:35,609
when do they get charged?
875
00:40:35,643 --> 00:40:38,812
The D.A. Has agreed
to let them take a plea.
876
00:40:38,863 --> 00:40:41,365
For misdemeanor obstruction,
they'll do one year's probation.
877
00:40:41,399 --> 00:40:43,867
- Probation?
- Are you kidding me?
878
00:40:43,902 --> 00:40:45,402
We can't take this to trial.
879
00:40:45,436 --> 00:40:47,154
The girls won't testify
against each other.
880
00:40:47,205 --> 00:40:49,656
The only way to make a case
is to put two four-year-old
881
00:40:49,708 --> 00:40:51,959
boys on the stand to testify
against their sisters.
882
00:40:51,993 --> 00:40:55,746
Those boys are damaged
enough as it is.
883
00:40:55,780 --> 00:40:57,114
They're damaged?
884
00:41:00,385 --> 00:41:02,336
Heh. I see.
885
00:41:02,387 --> 00:41:04,191
- Mr. Walker, there...
- No!
886
00:41:06,457 --> 00:41:09,176
Get away from me.
887
00:41:09,227 --> 00:41:12,229
Just get away.
888
00:41:14,465 --> 00:41:18,652
I keep going
over it in my head.
889
00:41:18,686 --> 00:41:20,687
Those kids did
not sound coached.
890
00:41:20,739 --> 00:41:24,858
We had the DNA.
We were just doing our job.
891
00:41:24,909 --> 00:41:27,327
People lie, people make
mistakes, people get hurt.
892
00:41:27,362 --> 00:41:29,113
This comes with the territory.
893
00:41:29,147 --> 00:41:33,500
No, you guys can keep telling
yourselves whatever you want.
894
00:41:33,535 --> 00:41:36,537
This didn't have to happen.
895
00:41:43,919 --> 00:41:47,983
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