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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,478 --> 00:00:01,648 ♪ 2 00:00:01,697 --> 00:00:03,217 The first time I saw him, he had this 3 00:00:03,264 --> 00:00:06,184 magnetic charisma that you could feel across the gym. 4 00:00:06,223 --> 00:00:07,493 And, you just thought, hey, man, 5 00:00:07,529 --> 00:00:08,919 that this guy's a star. 6 00:00:08,965 --> 00:00:10,965 And I'll do whatever it takes! 7 00:00:11,011 --> 00:00:14,491 To look adversity in the face and spit in its eye. 8 00:00:14,536 --> 00:00:17,056 The wrestling world could never have imagined that 9 00:00:17,104 --> 00:00:20,064 an undersized football player from Cincinnati would 10 00:00:20,107 --> 00:00:24,587 revolutionize the business, ushering in a whole new era. 11 00:00:24,633 --> 00:00:25,983 Shut the hell up! 12 00:00:26,026 --> 00:00:27,766 Brian knew what the deal was. 13 00:00:27,810 --> 00:00:29,250 That they're gonna screw him over, 14 00:00:29,290 --> 00:00:30,810 they're gonna screw anybody over. 15 00:00:30,856 --> 00:00:35,076 And how he could make that play for his own advantage. 16 00:00:35,122 --> 00:00:38,562 In an industry that depends on the illusion of reality, 17 00:00:38,603 --> 00:00:42,433 no one did more to blur the lines than Brian Pillman, 18 00:00:42,477 --> 00:00:44,777 who shattered wrestling's 4th wall. 19 00:00:44,827 --> 00:00:46,997 He was going against the "script". 20 00:00:47,047 --> 00:00:48,307 This has never been done before. 21 00:00:48,352 --> 00:00:50,142 What the fuck are you doing? Easy! 22 00:00:50,180 --> 00:00:52,920 Pillman's over-the-top antics exposed the inner 23 00:00:52,965 --> 00:00:56,095 workings of the business, leveraging trade secrets to 24 00:00:56,143 --> 00:00:58,283 make the deal of a lifetime. 25 00:00:58,319 --> 00:01:02,019 That Loose Cannon gimmick, he just took it so far. 26 00:01:02,062 --> 00:01:03,592 Don't go in there! [screams] 27 00:01:03,628 --> 00:01:06,278 A lot of people thought, "Oh, man, it was too extreme." 28 00:01:06,327 --> 00:01:08,017 You didn't know where Brian started and 29 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:10,108 his wrestling persona ended. 30 00:01:10,157 --> 00:01:11,637 Get him the hell out'a here. 31 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,860 He had a lot of troublesome relationships with women. 32 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:17,160 My mom had had enough and that kind of 33 00:01:17,207 --> 00:01:18,987 pushed her over the edge a little bit. 34 00:01:19,035 --> 00:01:20,465 He's being driven crazy at home, 35 00:01:20,515 --> 00:01:22,035 he's supposed to be crazy at work. 36 00:01:22,082 --> 00:01:23,872 And in between... 37 00:01:23,909 --> 00:01:26,129 he's probably really going crazy. 38 00:01:26,173 --> 00:01:28,703 On track to become a wrestling superstar at the 39 00:01:28,740 --> 00:01:31,870 price of his own sanity, his rise to the top 40 00:01:31,917 --> 00:01:35,567 was tragically cut short. 41 00:01:35,617 --> 00:01:38,357 I'm watching the pre-show for the Pay Per View. 42 00:01:38,402 --> 00:01:39,662 Ladies and gentlemen, we have some tragic 43 00:01:39,708 --> 00:01:41,878 news to report... Brian Pilman. 44 00:01:41,927 --> 00:01:44,667 I just screamed. 45 00:01:44,713 --> 00:01:47,413 He had a persona that he wanted to perpetuate, 46 00:01:47,455 --> 00:01:49,235 even if it killed him. 47 00:01:49,283 --> 00:01:52,023 ♪ 48 00:01:55,637 --> 00:02:03,557 ♪ 49 00:02:03,601 --> 00:02:07,041 Man, this is the gold chain that Brian Pillman got for me 50 00:02:07,083 --> 00:02:09,263 way back in the day, and I'll never forget, 51 00:02:09,303 --> 00:02:11,223 we were riding down the road one day and he goes, 52 00:02:11,261 --> 00:02:13,611 "Kid, we gotta have gold chains." 53 00:02:13,655 --> 00:02:15,175 He goes, "That'll look great." 54 00:02:15,222 --> 00:02:18,402 And all these years later, I don't have a lot of things, 55 00:02:18,442 --> 00:02:19,972 you know, from my old wrestling days, 56 00:02:20,009 --> 00:02:22,789 but this chain is something that I'll always have it. 57 00:02:22,838 --> 00:02:26,538 It's very sentimental to me, and it was a big part of the 58 00:02:26,581 --> 00:02:30,721 makeup and the gimmick of the Hollywood Blonds. 59 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:32,149 I'm Steve Austin. 60 00:02:32,195 --> 00:02:34,715 A friend of Brian's from way back in our WCW days, 61 00:02:34,763 --> 00:02:36,333 and we were tag team partners. 62 00:02:36,373 --> 00:02:38,113 Turned out to be really good friends and a 63 00:02:38,158 --> 00:02:39,458 pretty damn good tag team. 64 00:02:39,507 --> 00:02:43,077 The Hollywood Blonds! 65 00:02:43,119 --> 00:02:44,469 Brian didn't phone nothing in. 66 00:02:44,512 --> 00:02:46,732 He wanted to go out there and perform. 67 00:02:46,775 --> 00:02:48,775 [cheering] 68 00:02:48,820 --> 00:02:50,820 A guy that was never supposed to be big enough 69 00:02:50,866 --> 00:02:54,826 or bad enough or strong enough to do anything... 70 00:02:54,870 --> 00:02:56,220 He blew everybody away with 71 00:02:56,263 --> 00:02:58,873 his tenacity and his will to win. 72 00:02:58,917 --> 00:03:00,437 [cheering] 73 00:03:00,484 --> 00:03:03,364 He was a good-looking guy, great physique, high-flyer. 74 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,490 Could do everything. 75 00:03:04,532 --> 00:03:06,062 Oh, man! 76 00:03:06,098 --> 00:03:07,618 Brian was very athletic. 77 00:03:07,665 --> 00:03:10,355 It really seemed like he was willing to try anything, 78 00:03:10,407 --> 00:03:12,977 and you could tell that he really wanted 79 00:03:13,018 --> 00:03:15,498 to be a pro wrestling star. 80 00:03:15,543 --> 00:03:16,943 I'm Jim Ross and, 81 00:03:16,979 --> 00:03:19,419 when I was in WCW in the mid 80s, 82 00:03:19,460 --> 00:03:22,380 Brian was a guy that we had very high hopes for and 83 00:03:22,419 --> 00:03:23,939 really wanted to sign. 84 00:03:23,986 --> 00:03:26,506 ...'cause after we're done pounding you into submission, 85 00:03:26,554 --> 00:03:28,384 the only thing that's gonna be prescribed 86 00:03:28,425 --> 00:03:33,255 for you guys afterwards is a liquid diet of embalming fluid! 87 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:35,080 Brian, from the time he first got in the ring, 88 00:03:35,127 --> 00:03:36,867 you could tell he was a performer. 89 00:03:36,912 --> 00:03:39,522 He was an exhibitionist. He wanted you to notice him. 90 00:03:39,567 --> 00:03:42,477 He had the personality for wrestling. 91 00:03:42,526 --> 00:03:43,876 I'm Jim Cornette. 92 00:03:43,919 --> 00:03:45,009 I've been involved in professional wrestling for 93 00:03:45,050 --> 00:03:47,270 over 40 years as a manager, promoter, 94 00:03:47,314 --> 00:03:50,274 announcer, matchmaker, and I was good friends... 95 00:03:50,317 --> 00:03:53,837 In the 80s and 90s, with Brian Pillman. 96 00:03:53,885 --> 00:03:56,055 He wasn't trying to just be the move guy. 97 00:03:56,105 --> 00:03:57,445 He wasn't just trying to be the guy with 98 00:03:57,498 --> 00:03:59,058 the nice mullet and the abs. 99 00:03:59,108 --> 00:04:00,588 Like, he was trying to be everything. 100 00:04:00,631 --> 00:04:03,111 He was trying to hit this business on all fronts and 101 00:04:03,155 --> 00:04:05,455 fire on all cylinders, and he was trying to be the 102 00:04:05,506 --> 00:04:08,726 biggest star that the business had ever seen. 103 00:04:08,770 --> 00:04:13,380 My name is Brian Pillman Jr. I am only son of the 104 00:04:13,427 --> 00:04:16,387 late, great Brian Pillman, otherwise known as 105 00:04:16,430 --> 00:04:17,560 the Loose Cannon. 106 00:04:17,605 --> 00:04:19,865 [horn & cheering] 107 00:04:19,911 --> 00:04:22,001 Brian was a natural promo. 108 00:04:22,044 --> 00:04:24,184 When they stuck a mic in front of him, 109 00:04:24,220 --> 00:04:27,010 he would just go off in that raspy voice. 110 00:04:27,049 --> 00:04:30,229 You're not running this interview, I am! 111 00:04:30,270 --> 00:04:33,620 'Cause I'm Brian fucking Pillman! 112 00:04:33,664 --> 00:04:37,674 [cheering & applause] 113 00:04:40,454 --> 00:04:44,554 Growing up, Brian had multiple polyps on his vocal cords, 114 00:04:44,588 --> 00:04:46,758 and it was closing up his air passage. 115 00:04:46,808 --> 00:04:49,848 They'd scrape 'em off and then, after so long, 116 00:04:49,898 --> 00:04:51,508 they'd grow right back again. 117 00:04:51,552 --> 00:04:53,952 And that's why his voice was so raspy, 118 00:04:53,989 --> 00:04:58,169 because his vocal cords had been scraped so many times. 119 00:04:58,210 --> 00:05:02,130 I'm Linda, Brian's older sister. 120 00:05:02,171 --> 00:05:04,131 You know, he had over 40 surgeries. 121 00:05:04,173 --> 00:05:06,743 I don't know the exact number. 122 00:05:06,784 --> 00:05:09,184 When my mother came in from work one day, 123 00:05:09,221 --> 00:05:11,921 she could hear breathing as soon as she came in the house, 124 00:05:11,963 --> 00:05:14,923 and it was closing up his air passage. 125 00:05:14,966 --> 00:05:17,266 And she called the doctor. 126 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:19,837 She had to hold the receiver up 127 00:05:19,884 --> 00:05:22,154 so he could hear him breathing. 128 00:05:22,191 --> 00:05:26,541 And that's when he decided he needed emergency tracheotomy. 129 00:05:26,587 --> 00:05:29,807 ♪ [sirens] 130 00:05:29,851 --> 00:05:31,981 [clanging] 131 00:05:32,027 --> 00:05:33,677 He told my mother to have the ambulance 132 00:05:33,724 --> 00:05:36,814 bring them to his house. 133 00:05:36,858 --> 00:05:41,118 'Cause his house was closer than the hospital. 134 00:05:41,166 --> 00:05:44,386 And he put a tracheotomy in Brian on his 135 00:05:44,431 --> 00:05:47,351 dining room table, in the middle of the night. 136 00:05:47,390 --> 00:05:50,130 ♪ 137 00:05:50,175 --> 00:05:52,825 But, it never stopped him from doing anything. 138 00:05:52,874 --> 00:05:55,624 He was always outside playing and running and, 139 00:05:55,659 --> 00:05:58,229 he wasn't allowed to talk for like two or three weeks 140 00:05:58,270 --> 00:06:01,540 after those surgeries and he didn't talk. 141 00:06:01,578 --> 00:06:05,318 As a result of that, I think he overcompensated later on 142 00:06:05,365 --> 00:06:08,585 by wanting to always talk, wanting to be an entertainer. 143 00:06:08,629 --> 00:06:12,419 It formed him as the guy that was gonna overcome, 144 00:06:12,459 --> 00:06:15,289 over achieve, knock down the obstacles, 145 00:06:15,331 --> 00:06:16,511 whatever the case may be. 146 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:18,420 The son of a bitch was fearless. 147 00:06:18,465 --> 00:06:20,025 I mean, he was... [laughs] 148 00:06:20,075 --> 00:06:22,725 He was a tough, tough nut. 149 00:06:22,773 --> 00:06:23,823 My name is Kim Wood. 150 00:06:23,861 --> 00:06:25,431 I was the Paul Brown Strength Coach 151 00:06:25,472 --> 00:06:26,732 for the Cincinnati Bengals. 152 00:06:26,777 --> 00:06:30,217 And, Pillman had a chance to try out with us. 153 00:06:30,259 --> 00:06:32,999 My instruction was to kill him... 154 00:06:33,044 --> 00:06:35,134 and not literally kill him, but damn close. 155 00:06:35,177 --> 00:06:38,617 But, he tried his ass off. 156 00:06:38,659 --> 00:06:40,309 You know, he always said, it's not about the, 157 00:06:40,356 --> 00:06:42,006 the size of the dog in the fight. 158 00:06:42,053 --> 00:06:43,973 It's about the size of the fight in the dog. 159 00:06:44,012 --> 00:06:45,752 He had a reputation in Cincinnati, 160 00:06:45,796 --> 00:06:48,446 being a street fighter. 161 00:06:48,495 --> 00:06:53,105 I heard that he was at some bar that had an upper floor, 162 00:06:53,151 --> 00:06:56,421 like a balcony or whatever you want to call it. 163 00:06:56,459 --> 00:06:58,199 And, he was up there and some girl 164 00:06:58,243 --> 00:07:00,593 threw a drink in his face. 165 00:07:00,637 --> 00:07:05,637 And, her boyfriend came after Brian. 166 00:07:05,686 --> 00:07:07,596 Before it was over, the guy was hanging-- 167 00:07:07,644 --> 00:07:10,214 Brian had him hanging by his ankles over the, 168 00:07:10,255 --> 00:07:14,605 the railing. Over the first floor. 169 00:07:14,651 --> 00:07:18,001 And Brian was banned from that bar. 170 00:07:18,046 --> 00:07:20,566 After a brief stint in the NFL, 171 00:07:20,614 --> 00:07:22,494 Brian heads to Calgary to play in the 172 00:07:22,529 --> 00:07:24,229 Canadian Football League. 173 00:07:24,269 --> 00:07:27,399 Soon after, Brian suffers an ankle injury, 174 00:07:27,447 --> 00:07:30,097 cutting his career short, which leaves him 175 00:07:30,145 --> 00:07:32,575 searching for what to do next. 176 00:07:32,626 --> 00:07:34,366 One thing I knew about Brian was, 177 00:07:34,410 --> 00:07:36,850 is that he wasn't gonna be a high school teacher. 178 00:07:36,891 --> 00:07:38,721 He wasn't gonna sell insurance. 179 00:07:38,762 --> 00:07:40,762 There was a lof of things he wasn't gonna do. 180 00:07:40,808 --> 00:07:42,678 He could use his toughness 181 00:07:42,723 --> 00:07:46,383 and his physicality to make money. 182 00:07:46,422 --> 00:07:47,952 A couple years ago when I was with the Bengals, 183 00:07:47,989 --> 00:07:50,029 Kim Wood, the strength coach, 184 00:07:50,078 --> 00:07:51,468 he had talked to me about getting into 185 00:07:51,514 --> 00:07:52,954 professional wrestling. 186 00:07:52,994 --> 00:07:55,004 He thought I had all the tools needed to be successful. 187 00:07:55,039 --> 00:07:56,999 And it turns out, Calgary happened to be the 188 00:07:57,041 --> 00:08:00,131 premiere training ground for wrestlers in the world. 189 00:08:00,175 --> 00:08:02,785 And I said, "Hey, while you're up there, 190 00:08:02,830 --> 00:08:06,010 go check out this... this Hart bunch." 191 00:08:06,050 --> 00:08:08,920 The Hart's are the first family of Canadian wrestling... 192 00:08:08,966 --> 00:08:11,266 ...with patriarch Stu Hart at the helm. 193 00:08:11,316 --> 00:08:13,536 In addition to his children that would go on to be 194 00:08:13,580 --> 00:08:16,800 wrestling icons, the family also discovered and 195 00:08:16,844 --> 00:08:20,544 trained several other future superstars. 196 00:08:20,587 --> 00:08:22,757 They take him into the Hart dungeon and they teach him 197 00:08:22,806 --> 00:08:25,236 how to wrestle in one of the most prestigious ways 198 00:08:25,287 --> 00:08:26,897 to break into the business that there is. 199 00:08:32,163 --> 00:08:34,303 Well, from what I hear, if you can't hear screaming 200 00:08:34,339 --> 00:08:36,859 coming out of it, something's not going right. 201 00:08:36,907 --> 00:08:40,817 Stu, the old man, would put people in submission holds 202 00:08:40,868 --> 00:08:42,868 and then not let them out of the thing for, 203 00:08:42,913 --> 00:08:44,573 you know, 3 or 4 hours. 204 00:08:44,611 --> 00:08:45,831 If you could survive that, 205 00:08:45,873 --> 00:08:47,573 you could survive almost anything. 206 00:08:47,614 --> 00:08:49,314 So, you get that great foundation... 207 00:08:49,354 --> 00:08:51,314 all, right off the bat from Stu. 208 00:08:51,356 --> 00:08:55,576 It was an easy bridge to cross from football to wrestling. 209 00:08:55,622 --> 00:08:58,362 Brian gets his start in Stampede Wrestling, 210 00:08:58,407 --> 00:09:01,107 and although it's a small territory in western Canada, 211 00:09:01,149 --> 00:09:03,409 its influence on the industry is felt 212 00:09:03,455 --> 00:09:05,325 around the wrestling world. 213 00:09:05,370 --> 00:09:07,720 In the 80s, there were millions of wrestling fans, 214 00:09:07,764 --> 00:09:11,684 but there was a small subset called "smart fans" that 215 00:09:11,725 --> 00:09:14,335 knew the inside inner workings of wrestling. 216 00:09:14,379 --> 00:09:17,029 The insiders all knew the name Brian Pillman pretty quick. 217 00:09:17,078 --> 00:09:18,298 I'm Dave Metzler. 218 00:09:18,340 --> 00:09:19,690 Editor of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter. 219 00:09:19,733 --> 00:09:21,003 It's an insider publication. 220 00:09:21,038 --> 00:09:23,868 It's covered pro wrestling since 1982. 221 00:09:23,911 --> 00:09:26,351 For a long time, it was like really the only... 222 00:09:26,391 --> 00:09:28,921 you know, what I would call true source of pro wrestling 223 00:09:28,959 --> 00:09:30,529 information that was out there. 224 00:09:30,570 --> 00:09:32,350 The sheets were kind of a thing back in the day, 225 00:09:32,397 --> 00:09:33,957 you didn't really want to get caught with 'em. 226 00:09:34,008 --> 00:09:36,618 You know, it's kind of like secret documents. 227 00:09:36,663 --> 00:09:38,883 And then, kind of got out and damn near 228 00:09:38,926 --> 00:09:40,446 all the boys are reading it. 229 00:09:40,492 --> 00:09:42,452 And with Brian, he had started wrestling 230 00:09:42,494 --> 00:09:43,894 when he called me the first time. 231 00:09:43,931 --> 00:09:46,671 And, he wanted to send me tapes and wanted me 232 00:09:46,716 --> 00:09:48,196 to send tapes, so we traded tapes. 233 00:09:48,239 --> 00:09:49,809 As far as student of the game, I mean, 234 00:09:49,850 --> 00:09:52,640 top, top level, more than almost anyone 235 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:53,849 that I'd ever dealt with. 236 00:09:53,897 --> 00:09:57,247 Meltzer was a good gauge for talent. 237 00:09:57,292 --> 00:10:00,952 So, that tipped me off that Meltzer kept 238 00:10:00,991 --> 00:10:02,911 writing good things about Brian. 239 00:10:02,950 --> 00:10:06,210 Brian wound up in WCW by me getting a hold of it. 240 00:10:06,257 --> 00:10:07,647 Alright, Brian, best of luck on that... 241 00:10:07,694 --> 00:10:10,094 Upon arriving in WCW... 242 00:10:10,131 --> 00:10:12,181 Brian Pillman! 243 00:10:12,220 --> 00:10:14,610 Top star and matchmaker, Ric Flair, 244 00:10:14,657 --> 00:10:16,267 sees something in Brian... 245 00:10:16,311 --> 00:10:19,271 And looks to feature him on television in a main event spot. 246 00:10:19,314 --> 00:10:20,664 And we put that match together, 247 00:10:20,707 --> 00:10:22,797 and it was one of the highest rated Saturday night 248 00:10:22,839 --> 00:10:25,359 television programs on TBS at that point in 249 00:10:25,407 --> 00:10:27,057 the previous several years. 250 00:10:27,104 --> 00:10:29,674 And, the crowd popped for him. 251 00:10:29,716 --> 00:10:33,106 Crowd's chanting: "Go, Brian, go!" 252 00:10:33,154 --> 00:10:35,334 Ric Flair was the kind of guy that wanted to go in the 253 00:10:35,373 --> 00:10:37,513 ring with somebody like Brian and go 30 or 254 00:10:37,549 --> 00:10:39,329 45 minutes and tear the house down. 255 00:10:39,377 --> 00:10:41,337 And then he wanted to go to the bar with Brian or 256 00:10:41,379 --> 00:10:43,509 somebody like Brian, for 5 or 6 hours and 257 00:10:43,555 --> 00:10:45,035 tear the house down there. 258 00:10:45,079 --> 00:10:46,299 That's the way he lived. 259 00:10:46,341 --> 00:10:49,691 He lived a cartoon life, a fantasy life of... 260 00:10:49,736 --> 00:10:51,476 of limos and... 261 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,390 long black socks and alligator shoes and... 262 00:10:54,436 --> 00:10:55,996 you know, and babes. 263 00:10:56,046 --> 00:10:59,826 I think Brian liked aspects of the lifestyle a lot. 264 00:10:59,876 --> 00:11:01,786 You know, he wanted to be like Ric Flair. 265 00:11:01,835 --> 00:11:03,575 Brian Pillman was a lady's man. 266 00:11:03,619 --> 00:11:05,839 I mean, he's a gorgeous guy, he's on television, 267 00:11:05,882 --> 00:11:07,672 he's a professional athlete. 268 00:11:07,710 --> 00:11:11,110 So, yeah, a lot of the women were attracted to Brian. 269 00:11:11,148 --> 00:11:14,668 Rochelle was a woman that Brian met a club, 270 00:11:14,717 --> 00:11:16,457 downtown Cincinnati. 271 00:11:16,501 --> 00:11:17,851 You know, they were happy and... 272 00:11:17,894 --> 00:11:19,294 we all loved her. 273 00:11:19,330 --> 00:11:21,770 She went and lived with him in Calgary for a while, 274 00:11:21,811 --> 00:11:24,211 before he got the contract down in Atlanta, 275 00:11:24,248 --> 00:11:27,468 and that's when Brittany was born in Atlanta. 276 00:11:27,512 --> 00:11:29,042 My name is Brittany Pillman. 277 00:11:29,079 --> 00:11:31,209 I'm the daughter of Brian Pillman. 278 00:11:31,255 --> 00:11:33,425 I was a daddy's girl. 279 00:11:33,475 --> 00:11:36,645 You know, everyone sees him as this wrestler and always 280 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:39,306 on the road and, you know, wrestling was his life, 281 00:11:39,350 --> 00:11:42,570 but outside of wrestling, his children were his life. 282 00:11:42,614 --> 00:11:45,664 My dad thought I was his firstborn child. 283 00:11:45,705 --> 00:11:48,745 When I was a year old, he found out that he had 284 00:11:48,795 --> 00:11:51,055 another daughter out there that was 2 years old. 285 00:11:51,101 --> 00:11:52,411 ♪ 286 00:11:52,450 --> 00:11:55,320 I'm Danielle Pillman. I go by Dani. 287 00:11:55,366 --> 00:11:58,066 And, Brian Pillman is my father, 288 00:11:58,108 --> 00:12:01,368 and I am the oldest of his kids. 289 00:12:01,416 --> 00:12:05,766 My dad met my mom at the waterfront in Cincinnati, 290 00:12:05,812 --> 00:12:07,342 like, some bar. 291 00:12:07,378 --> 00:12:11,338 And, I mean, it was like a, a very brief love affair. 292 00:12:11,382 --> 00:12:15,602 But, she did end up becoming pregnant, 293 00:12:15,647 --> 00:12:18,777 but my dad had Rochelle as his girlfriend at the time. 294 00:12:18,825 --> 00:12:21,955 So, yeah, that's kind of why she didn't want to 295 00:12:22,002 --> 00:12:24,662 disclose that to my father immediately, 296 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:28,010 but at a certain point, she felt like, you know, 297 00:12:28,051 --> 00:12:29,311 I needed my dad. 298 00:12:29,357 --> 00:12:31,097 And, the second that I came into the picture, 299 00:12:31,141 --> 00:12:34,801 he was there for me 100% and wanted me to be 300 00:12:34,841 --> 00:12:36,411 in every part of his life. 301 00:12:36,451 --> 00:12:38,411 And I think that's something to be said about him is that 302 00:12:38,453 --> 00:12:40,723 he really did care about his kids. 303 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,590 You know, my dad living that lifestyle and all these 304 00:12:43,632 --> 00:12:45,682 different women and, you know, 305 00:12:45,721 --> 00:12:48,331 he had obviously cheated on my mom many times. 306 00:12:48,376 --> 00:12:49,806 I'm sure that was hard on her, 307 00:12:49,856 --> 00:12:53,286 but she stayed with him, you know. 308 00:12:53,337 --> 00:12:55,037 She had a lot of issues. 309 00:12:55,078 --> 00:12:58,168 She suffered with major depression. 310 00:12:58,212 --> 00:13:01,302 There was a time my mom and dad were living in Atlanta 311 00:13:01,345 --> 00:13:04,345 and my dad was at a show. 312 00:13:04,392 --> 00:13:08,572 [Linda] The groundskeeper broke into the place and 313 00:13:08,613 --> 00:13:12,663 attacked her with an ice pick. 314 00:13:12,704 --> 00:13:15,104 [Brittany] And, she was stabbed several times. 315 00:13:17,971 --> 00:13:21,501 Rob her, whatever, I don't know. 316 00:13:21,539 --> 00:13:24,889 Stabbed her in the face, stabbed her in the cheek. 317 00:13:24,934 --> 00:13:28,464 ♪ 318 00:13:28,503 --> 00:13:30,243 So, that'll mess you up. 319 00:13:30,287 --> 00:13:34,287 ♪ 320 00:13:38,208 --> 00:13:40,988 Brian Pillman's good looks and athletic ability 321 00:13:41,037 --> 00:13:44,127 allow him a spot on the card as a generic hero, 322 00:13:44,171 --> 00:13:46,961 but he's not content to stay in one place for long, 323 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,220 nor do what he's told. 324 00:13:49,263 --> 00:13:52,093 He was reasonably successful, but you know, 325 00:13:52,135 --> 00:13:53,265 he wanted to be a main eventer, 326 00:13:53,310 --> 00:13:54,570 and he wasn't a main eventer yet. 327 00:13:54,616 --> 00:13:57,836 He was, he was a good mid-level guy. 328 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,450 You know, Brian's first couple years in WCW were tough. 329 00:14:02,493 --> 00:14:05,323 I'm Eric Bischoff, former president of WCW. 330 00:14:05,366 --> 00:14:09,066 And, once upon a time, Brian Pillman's boss. 331 00:14:09,109 --> 00:14:12,369 Brian was relatively new on the scene his first 332 00:14:12,416 --> 00:14:16,116 couple years in WCW, so he had to earn his respect. 333 00:14:16,159 --> 00:14:18,899 What probably made that even tougher was the 334 00:14:18,945 --> 00:14:22,425 amount of management transitions that took place. 335 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:24,730 Constant changeover in management led to 336 00:14:24,776 --> 00:14:27,516 stop and start pushes in Brian's career. 337 00:14:27,562 --> 00:14:29,522 As soon as he started to gain ground and 338 00:14:29,564 --> 00:14:32,394 earn respect, new matchmakers would arrive, 339 00:14:32,436 --> 00:14:34,786 pushing Brian back down to the bottom. 340 00:14:34,830 --> 00:14:38,440 But finally, they put Brian together with Steve Austin. 341 00:14:38,486 --> 00:14:41,096 He's ready to back you up 100%. 342 00:14:41,141 --> 00:14:42,971 Alright, Stunning Steve Austin. 343 00:14:43,012 --> 00:14:44,622 And I wasn't thrilled at all. 344 00:14:44,666 --> 00:14:49,016 [cheering] 345 00:14:49,062 --> 00:14:50,632 When people hear the name Steve Austin, 346 00:14:50,672 --> 00:14:52,942 they think he was always the biggest star in wrestling. 347 00:14:52,979 --> 00:14:56,719 At the time, in 1993, he was still finding his way and 348 00:14:56,765 --> 00:14:59,065 hadn't got a main event spot yet. 349 00:14:59,115 --> 00:15:01,505 And, this is about when I eventually started getting 350 00:15:01,552 --> 00:15:03,952 a run as the United States Champion. 351 00:15:03,990 --> 00:15:05,860 So, I was really looking forward to that. 352 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:08,555 I walked into the building and here's Brian coming up 353 00:15:08,603 --> 00:15:11,003 behind me, and I knew Brian, but we weren't hanging out. 354 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,610 He goes, "Hey, kid, we need to come up with a finish." 355 00:15:13,651 --> 00:15:15,651 And I said, "What the 'F' are you talking about?" 356 00:15:15,697 --> 00:15:17,387 He goes, "We're a tag team now." 357 00:15:17,438 --> 00:15:19,878 And I was really not, not happy. 358 00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:21,399 I had nothing against Brian. 359 00:15:21,442 --> 00:15:24,752 But it's like, I was, I was a singles wrestler. 360 00:15:24,793 --> 00:15:28,063 I enjoyed working with another guy in the ring and 361 00:15:28,101 --> 00:15:30,101 only having to depend on myself. 362 00:15:30,146 --> 00:15:32,236 And they didn't have no name planned for us, 363 00:15:32,279 --> 00:15:33,579 no this, no that. 364 00:15:33,628 --> 00:15:35,458 It was two singles guys and they were gonna 365 00:15:35,499 --> 00:15:38,149 throw us together as an interim tag team, 366 00:15:38,198 --> 00:15:41,418 basically to get other people over because they didn't 367 00:15:41,462 --> 00:15:43,382 have plans for Brian and they didn't have plans 368 00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:44,940 for Steve Austin. 369 00:15:44,987 --> 00:15:48,467 So, we were gonna try to make the most of the situation. 370 00:15:48,512 --> 00:15:50,382 Any time that you start working together and 371 00:15:50,427 --> 00:15:53,167 traveling with someone, you become closer. 372 00:15:53,213 --> 00:15:55,173 And, normally I'd be at the wheel, 373 00:15:55,215 --> 00:15:58,165 Brian would be riding shotgun reading dictionaries, 374 00:15:58,218 --> 00:16:00,308 I mean, because he was already trying to 375 00:16:00,350 --> 00:16:03,010 increase his vocabulary for promos. 376 00:16:03,049 --> 00:16:05,829 And began the pilgrimage out to Florida! 377 00:16:05,877 --> 00:16:08,487 Cut through the bureaucratic red tape and 378 00:16:08,532 --> 00:16:10,452 get that title shot! 379 00:16:10,491 --> 00:16:13,361 So, as it goes, we're going down the road and he goes, 380 00:16:13,407 --> 00:16:15,797 "Hey, kid. Every tag team has to have a name. 381 00:16:15,844 --> 00:16:17,984 So, what about the Hollywood Blonds?" 382 00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:19,330 He goes, "It's been done before, 383 00:16:19,369 --> 00:16:21,809 but it's been awhile so, let's do that." 384 00:16:21,850 --> 00:16:23,030 And I was thinking to myself, 385 00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:25,419 well, I ain't come up with a better one. 386 00:16:25,462 --> 00:16:28,602 And so, like, I was cool with being the Hollywood Blonds. 387 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:30,949 - Guess what-- - The Hollywood Blonds! 388 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:34,340 The vests, the trunks, everything was Brian's idea, 389 00:16:34,384 --> 00:16:36,174 and we were two cocky, brash, 390 00:16:36,212 --> 00:16:38,692 arrogant guys that we started rolling the 391 00:16:38,736 --> 00:16:40,776 camera footage and stuff like that and you know, 392 00:16:40,825 --> 00:16:43,995 Brian had that shit eating grin or that laugh, you know, 393 00:16:44,046 --> 00:16:45,606 when you're getting heat on a babyface. 394 00:16:45,656 --> 00:16:47,436 And Brian and I developed this bond 395 00:16:47,484 --> 00:16:49,104 and this chemistry. 396 00:16:49,138 --> 00:16:52,448 I loved tag team wrestling once I figured it out. 397 00:16:52,489 --> 00:16:54,709 I hate to say it this way 'cause it sounds really corny, 398 00:16:54,752 --> 00:16:56,192 but they were made for each other... 399 00:16:56,232 --> 00:16:58,892 because they complemented each other so well. 400 00:16:58,930 --> 00:17:01,980 They worked hard to make each other look good. 401 00:17:02,021 --> 00:17:04,371 The Hollywood Blonds also gave Brian a chance to 402 00:17:04,414 --> 00:17:07,034 open up as a heel, as a bad guy. 403 00:17:07,069 --> 00:17:08,589 People nowadays are like, "Oh, I loved 404 00:17:08,636 --> 00:17:10,766 the Hollywood Blonds," but if you go back then, 405 00:17:10,812 --> 00:17:12,472 they were getting boo'd out the building. 406 00:17:12,509 --> 00:17:13,819 Pillman, you suck! 407 00:17:13,858 --> 00:17:16,208 And you loved to hate 'em. 408 00:17:16,252 --> 00:17:19,392 I think it was more natural for Brian to be a heel because, 409 00:17:19,429 --> 00:17:22,389 you know, he wasn't a guy that wanted to shake hands, 410 00:17:22,432 --> 00:17:24,002 and kiss babies, and smile. 411 00:17:24,043 --> 00:17:26,263 He wanted to be a smartass, he wanted to be obnoxious, 412 00:17:26,306 --> 00:17:27,786 he wanted to show off. 413 00:17:27,829 --> 00:17:30,399 You're all a bunch of losers! 414 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:31,960 He was getting better at what he does, 415 00:17:32,007 --> 00:17:33,487 getting global exposure. 416 00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:35,970 Partying, having fun. 417 00:17:36,011 --> 00:17:39,281 Brian's fast and loose lifestyle doesn't mix well 418 00:17:39,319 --> 00:17:41,579 with his turbulent situation at home, 419 00:17:41,625 --> 00:17:44,235 and he pursues yet another woman who enters 420 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,330 his already complicated life. 421 00:17:46,369 --> 00:17:49,369 I think Melanie was working in Atlanta. 422 00:17:49,416 --> 00:17:51,366 She was a "showgirl". 423 00:17:51,418 --> 00:17:54,288 He saw her picture in a Penthouse or something and 424 00:17:54,334 --> 00:17:55,944 says, "I'm gonna marry that girl," and 425 00:17:55,987 --> 00:17:58,637 somewhere along the line, he met her... 426 00:17:58,686 --> 00:18:00,856 My dad was sleeping with Melanie behind my 427 00:18:00,905 --> 00:18:03,945 mother's back 'cause he was always in Atlanta. 428 00:18:03,995 --> 00:18:07,645 Melanie would call the house and, that's basically, 429 00:18:07,695 --> 00:18:10,825 I think how Rochelle found out about it, you know. 430 00:18:10,872 --> 00:18:12,872 She was hurt 'cause, you know, 431 00:18:12,917 --> 00:18:16,357 they had a nice home, the family was happy. 432 00:18:16,399 --> 00:18:19,189 But then he had this other life in Atlanta. 433 00:18:19,228 --> 00:18:23,008 And then Melanie became pregnant.... 434 00:18:23,058 --> 00:18:28,408 and, that's how we have Brian Junior. 435 00:18:28,455 --> 00:18:31,015 After another unexpected pregnancy outside of 436 00:18:31,066 --> 00:18:34,496 their relationship, Brian and Rochelle split up. 437 00:18:34,548 --> 00:18:36,588 Shortly after, Brian purposes to 438 00:18:36,637 --> 00:18:39,287 his new girlfriend, Melanie. 439 00:18:39,335 --> 00:18:42,155 We went to Vegas and he put on like a frickin' 440 00:18:42,208 --> 00:18:46,778 St. Patrick's Day white tux with a big 'ol ugly green bowtie. 441 00:18:46,821 --> 00:18:49,871 [laughing] I had a white dress, mind you, 442 00:18:49,911 --> 00:18:52,261 the stripper in a white dress. [laughing] 443 00:18:52,305 --> 00:18:55,695 And I had a big 'ol green corsage on, 444 00:18:55,743 --> 00:18:57,443 and I loved it, every second of it. 445 00:18:57,484 --> 00:19:00,844 I wouldn't trade it for the world. 446 00:19:00,878 --> 00:19:02,838 Ah, my name is Melanie Pillman. 447 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,490 I'm the widow of Brian Pillman. 448 00:19:05,535 --> 00:19:08,145 In private, like, he's, he's just more laid back and 449 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:11,150 sensible acting, but he's one of the most 450 00:19:11,193 --> 00:19:13,063 intelligent men I've ever met in my life. 451 00:19:13,108 --> 00:19:17,198 So well read and he just excelled at so many things. 452 00:19:17,243 --> 00:19:19,163 He was... he was my soul mate, 453 00:19:19,201 --> 00:19:22,511 I mean, I couldn't have picked a better guy to love... 454 00:19:22,552 --> 00:19:24,342 love, than him. 455 00:19:24,380 --> 00:19:28,950 His first years with her, I thought he was very happy. 456 00:19:28,993 --> 00:19:31,783 It'd be a big thing, his Christmas card 'cause 457 00:19:31,822 --> 00:19:35,132 it would be him and the wife, and all these little kids. 458 00:19:35,174 --> 00:19:37,484 'Cause I had my two kids, you know. 459 00:19:37,524 --> 00:19:40,404 He would show up with like three or four little kids. 460 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,010 They all had different mothers. 461 00:19:42,050 --> 00:19:44,660 They'd be climbing on him, he'd be carrying a couple and, 462 00:19:44,705 --> 00:19:46,835 one had his legs around his neck and 463 00:19:46,881 --> 00:19:48,401 one is on his shoulder and... 464 00:19:48,448 --> 00:19:49,968 he loved those kids. 465 00:19:50,014 --> 00:19:51,974 He was counted on, he was depended on to, 466 00:19:52,016 --> 00:19:53,446 to provide. 467 00:19:53,496 --> 00:19:55,926 That responsibility is what pushes you to keep going 468 00:19:55,977 --> 00:19:58,327 to work. You have to provide for your family. 469 00:19:58,371 --> 00:20:00,501 Stunning Steve and Flyin' Brian. 470 00:20:00,547 --> 00:20:03,197 And, finally, they made the decision to give the 471 00:20:03,245 --> 00:20:05,675 Hollywood Blonds a big main event match. 472 00:20:05,726 --> 00:20:07,986 It was gonna be on a Clash of Champions and Ric Flair 473 00:20:08,032 --> 00:20:10,252 was returning, he was gonna be involved. 474 00:20:10,296 --> 00:20:13,466 And, the rating came in and it wasn't very good, 475 00:20:13,516 --> 00:20:15,166 and they couldn't blame Flair because 476 00:20:15,214 --> 00:20:17,654 he was a big star so, they put the heat on 477 00:20:17,694 --> 00:20:19,094 Brian Pillman and Steve Austin. 478 00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:21,520 "Well, the Hollywood Blonds didn't draw a rating." 479 00:20:21,568 --> 00:20:24,268 And that kind of doomed them there as being featured 480 00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:26,440 in a more prominent capacity going forward. 481 00:20:26,486 --> 00:20:28,306 It felt like betrayal. 482 00:20:28,357 --> 00:20:30,787 I wish someone would finally tell me why the company 483 00:20:30,838 --> 00:20:33,008 decided to break us up 'cause we started getting 484 00:20:33,057 --> 00:20:37,187 over as a viable tag team that could hold, 485 00:20:37,236 --> 00:20:39,406 you know, world championship belts. 486 00:20:39,455 --> 00:20:40,625 We did. 487 00:20:40,674 --> 00:20:43,204 We make chicken shit into chicken salad, 488 00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:46,162 and now you want to split us out with no real 489 00:20:46,201 --> 00:20:48,251 clear direction for either one of us. 490 00:20:48,290 --> 00:20:50,770 So, breaking us up broke my heart. 491 00:20:50,814 --> 00:20:53,254 I don't know of any other talents that have been 492 00:20:53,295 --> 00:20:55,115 buried because they drew a bad rating. 493 00:20:55,166 --> 00:20:57,726 At the time, TBS was drawing a lot of bad ratings, 494 00:20:57,778 --> 00:21:00,078 but I think there was probably somebody that just thought, 495 00:21:00,128 --> 00:21:01,608 "I don't want to use these guys," and 496 00:21:01,651 --> 00:21:03,091 they used that as an excuse. 497 00:21:03,131 --> 00:21:06,271 How that was handled, I look back on it today and 498 00:21:06,308 --> 00:21:08,138 still shake my head that... 499 00:21:08,179 --> 00:21:10,749 we could 'a done better. 500 00:21:10,791 --> 00:21:14,011 I would say the period from 1990 to 1993, 501 00:21:14,055 --> 00:21:17,535 it was very frustrating for Brian. 502 00:21:17,580 --> 00:21:20,710 Also, there was some knowledge early on that 503 00:21:20,757 --> 00:21:23,717 his home life was not as happy as it could be. 504 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,890 I felt like my dad allowed Melanie to run the show. 505 00:21:26,937 --> 00:21:29,287 Melanie treated my mom very poorly. 506 00:21:29,331 --> 00:21:31,941 I feel like she was very jealous of my mother. 507 00:21:31,986 --> 00:21:34,856 Melanie didn't like him talking to her. 508 00:21:34,902 --> 00:21:37,692 She didn't like me and my mother talking to Rochelle. 509 00:21:37,731 --> 00:21:40,521 You know, she just, she made it hard to like her 'cause 510 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,300 she just caused trouble. 511 00:21:42,344 --> 00:21:44,614 And then, Rochelle took off and 512 00:21:44,651 --> 00:21:47,131 didn't tell anybody where she was. 513 00:21:47,175 --> 00:21:50,045 Rochelle is scheduled to see Brittany for a visit, 514 00:21:50,091 --> 00:21:51,481 but she never shows. 515 00:21:51,527 --> 00:21:53,567 No one is able to get a hold of her, 516 00:21:53,616 --> 00:21:56,316 resulting in a missing persons report. 517 00:21:56,358 --> 00:22:00,098 Several days later, when Rochelle finally surfaces, 518 00:22:00,144 --> 00:22:02,634 Brian and Melanie take decisive action. 519 00:22:02,669 --> 00:22:05,799 And Brian said - and I agreed with him, 520 00:22:05,846 --> 00:22:09,496 and I shouldn't have, "We should just file for custody." 521 00:22:09,545 --> 00:22:11,545 And, that changed everything. 522 00:22:11,591 --> 00:22:13,241 ♪ 523 00:22:18,467 --> 00:22:21,557 Following the tag team break up with Steve Austin, 524 00:22:21,601 --> 00:22:24,341 Brian's career has stalled, and the cracks in his 525 00:22:24,386 --> 00:22:28,906 family life start to break open, consuming those around him. 526 00:22:28,956 --> 00:22:31,736 The custody battle started because 527 00:22:31,785 --> 00:22:34,085 Melanie didn't want Rochelle around. 528 00:22:34,135 --> 00:22:37,305 Basically, Brian had more money and could keep the 529 00:22:37,356 --> 00:22:40,576 attorneys paid 'cause the attorneys only work 530 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:41,930 when you pay 'em. 531 00:22:41,969 --> 00:22:45,019 And, Rochelle just didn't have any more money. 532 00:22:45,059 --> 00:22:47,499 I was, you know, delivering stuff to the lawyer. 533 00:22:47,540 --> 00:22:50,630 I was bombarding her with these stupid things about 534 00:22:50,673 --> 00:22:54,593 returning past child support that she blew in-- 535 00:22:54,634 --> 00:22:58,864 You know, just little minutiae that was making me feel 536 00:22:58,899 --> 00:23:01,419 like a better person, but in reality, 537 00:23:01,467 --> 00:23:02,857 I wasn't the better person. 538 00:23:02,903 --> 00:23:04,383 Nobody should try to take kids away from a mother. 539 00:23:04,426 --> 00:23:05,726 I should have never done that. 540 00:23:05,775 --> 00:23:07,685 In a million years, I would never do it again. 541 00:23:07,734 --> 00:23:10,744 It just devastated Rochelle. 542 00:23:10,780 --> 00:23:15,310 ♪ 543 00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:18,610 I was outside riding my bicycle one day. 544 00:23:18,658 --> 00:23:21,228 This was at a time when she wasn't allowed to see me, 545 00:23:21,269 --> 00:23:24,749 and she came pulling up and I just went running to her 546 00:23:24,794 --> 00:23:26,454 and I was so happy to see her. 547 00:23:26,492 --> 00:23:29,762 Rochelle was hugging her... 548 00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:32,589 and they thought she was taking her. 549 00:23:32,628 --> 00:23:34,798 Here comes my dad and it was just like this 550 00:23:34,848 --> 00:23:39,068 huge argument, him pulling her away from me. 551 00:23:39,113 --> 00:23:44,163 Melanie filed kidnapping charges against Rochelle. 552 00:23:44,205 --> 00:23:46,985 And so, my dad had got full custody of me, 553 00:23:47,034 --> 00:23:49,784 and in my mom's mind, she was just like, 554 00:23:49,819 --> 00:23:51,469 I'm gonna lose my daughter and I'm never gonna 555 00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:53,517 see her again, and so... 556 00:23:53,562 --> 00:23:56,612 my mom called my dad's house and she wanted to 557 00:23:56,652 --> 00:23:58,872 talk to my dad, but he was out of town. 558 00:23:58,915 --> 00:24:01,085 Melanie had answered and Melanie told her, 559 00:24:01,135 --> 00:24:03,435 she said, "Even your own mother thinks I would be a 560 00:24:03,485 --> 00:24:06,095 better mother for your daughter than you'll ever be." 561 00:24:06,140 --> 00:24:09,880 ♪ 562 00:24:09,926 --> 00:24:13,016 And my mom called my grandma... 563 00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:15,410 She called her mother and told her mother 564 00:24:15,454 --> 00:24:17,544 what she was gonna do... 565 00:24:17,586 --> 00:24:20,676 ♪ 566 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,250 And then she shot herself. 567 00:24:24,288 --> 00:24:28,858 ♪ 568 00:24:28,902 --> 00:24:31,382 I got the call to go to the hospital 'cause 569 00:24:31,426 --> 00:24:35,466 she was being airlifted in, I was the closest. 570 00:24:35,517 --> 00:24:38,517 And I was the one at the hospital that they told, 571 00:24:38,564 --> 00:24:41,394 and then I had to tell everybody... 572 00:24:41,436 --> 00:24:45,396 that she was gone. She died on the helicopter. 573 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:51,450 So, I had to call her mother and tell her mother. 574 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:55,360 Oh, it was very hard. To tell some-- 575 00:24:55,406 --> 00:24:58,796 to tell somebody's mother that their child was dead. 576 00:24:58,845 --> 00:25:01,885 ♪ 577 00:25:01,935 --> 00:25:04,105 It just destroyed Brian because 578 00:25:04,154 --> 00:25:06,724 he felt so responsible. I mean, he was just so upset. 579 00:25:06,766 --> 00:25:08,546 He cried, and he cried, and he said, 580 00:25:08,594 --> 00:25:10,734 "Do you think it was all that pressure we put on her? 581 00:25:10,770 --> 00:25:12,120 I think it was, Mel." 582 00:25:12,162 --> 00:25:14,902 I'd be like, "Yeah, it probably was." 583 00:25:14,948 --> 00:25:16,338 So, Brian, he wanted to pay for 584 00:25:16,384 --> 00:25:20,694 her whole funeral and everything. 585 00:25:20,736 --> 00:25:25,606 And, at the funeral, he held it together... 586 00:25:25,654 --> 00:25:28,354 until they closed the casket. 587 00:25:28,396 --> 00:25:30,216 And, he lost it. 588 00:25:30,267 --> 00:25:32,747 He was hugging me and sobbing. 589 00:25:32,792 --> 00:25:36,322 And, in fact, at one point, I kind of looked at him 590 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:40,630 'cause I thought he, I thought he was gonna pass out. 591 00:25:40,669 --> 00:25:45,069 He was devastated... He was devastated. 592 00:25:45,108 --> 00:25:47,758 ♪ 593 00:25:47,807 --> 00:25:49,457 I felt... 594 00:25:49,504 --> 00:25:52,204 so guilty for that, for years. 595 00:25:52,246 --> 00:25:55,596 And, I think I drove her-- Maybe not just me, 596 00:25:55,641 --> 00:26:00,691 but I think incidents drove her to shoot herself. 597 00:26:00,733 --> 00:26:02,693 Rethinking it, I would, I wouldn't have done it 598 00:26:02,735 --> 00:26:03,945 the same way. 599 00:26:03,997 --> 00:26:05,647 Nobody should have to fight for their kid. 600 00:26:05,694 --> 00:26:07,224 I mean, it wasn't like she was abusing her. 601 00:26:07,261 --> 00:26:10,351 So, I don't really know what my problem was back then. 602 00:26:10,394 --> 00:26:13,014 It was, it was devastating, 603 00:26:13,049 --> 00:26:15,569 and I know it was for Brittany. 604 00:26:15,617 --> 00:26:19,487 I have a lot of anger built up towards my dad in a sense 605 00:26:19,534 --> 00:26:22,974 because I do wish that he would have, you know, 606 00:26:23,016 --> 00:26:25,236 allowed my mom to at least see me because 607 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:26,979 maybe she would still be here today. 608 00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:28,370 I don't, you know, I don't know. 609 00:26:28,412 --> 00:26:31,242 She had a lot of issues, but Melanie was 610 00:26:31,285 --> 00:26:32,975 the overall call. She's, 611 00:26:33,026 --> 00:26:36,506 she's an evil person and she's always been that way. 612 00:26:36,551 --> 00:26:39,381 Melanie should have never said those words to my mom. 613 00:26:39,423 --> 00:26:42,123 She's just, she's literally the devil and they say, 614 00:26:42,165 --> 00:26:44,115 you know, you reap what you sow... 615 00:26:44,167 --> 00:26:47,867 and now, she's living a life that she should have already 616 00:26:47,910 --> 00:26:50,040 been dead years ago because of all the drugs that 617 00:26:50,086 --> 00:26:52,786 she's done, but I feel like she's gonna live to be 618 00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:56,088 100 years old and absolutely miserable for all the pain and 619 00:26:56,136 --> 00:26:58,176 suffering that she has caused me, 620 00:26:58,225 --> 00:27:00,045 and my brother, and you know, 621 00:27:00,096 --> 00:27:02,226 my Aunt Linda. 622 00:27:02,272 --> 00:27:04,452 ♪ 623 00:27:04,492 --> 00:27:07,672 And I-- And Brittany's the one that, you know... 624 00:27:07,713 --> 00:27:08,933 I don't know how to make it up to her. 625 00:27:08,975 --> 00:27:10,315 I just, there's nothing I... 626 00:27:10,367 --> 00:27:11,977 I don't really know how to make it up to her. 627 00:27:12,021 --> 00:27:13,891 I wish I could. 628 00:27:13,936 --> 00:27:15,496 ♪ 629 00:27:15,546 --> 00:27:18,676 The guilt of Rochelle's death weighs heavily on Brian, 630 00:27:18,724 --> 00:27:21,344 and he dives even deeper into his career. 631 00:27:21,378 --> 00:27:24,688 With his contract renewal with the WCW looming, 632 00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:27,340 Brian is determined to renegotiate 633 00:27:27,384 --> 00:27:28,914 for even more money. 634 00:27:28,951 --> 00:27:31,351 When we talk business, it's like, "I have five kids, 635 00:27:31,388 --> 00:27:33,038 I don't know how many more years I can do this 636 00:27:33,086 --> 00:27:34,296 because my body's falling apart. 637 00:27:34,348 --> 00:27:36,958 I have to make big money now... 638 00:27:37,003 --> 00:27:38,663 because I've got five kids!" 639 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:41,010 This was his shot. 640 00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:43,620 He talks with Bischoff that was evidently doing the 641 00:27:43,662 --> 00:27:47,232 contracts there, and Bischoff says to him, 642 00:27:47,274 --> 00:27:50,064 "Expect about what you're getting now." 643 00:27:50,103 --> 00:27:52,413 He was pretty happy that I got him back to 225, 644 00:27:52,453 --> 00:27:54,503 but I think he wanted four, is the number that 645 00:27:54,542 --> 00:27:56,632 he was really wanting. I couldn't give it to him. 646 00:27:56,675 --> 00:27:58,755 I couldn't justify it at the time that he wanted it. 647 00:27:58,807 --> 00:28:01,897 He came to me and he says, "What do I do?" 648 00:28:01,941 --> 00:28:05,161 And what I told him was this... 649 00:28:05,205 --> 00:28:07,075 It's a question of value. 650 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:10,080 And when everybody's using everybody else, 651 00:28:10,123 --> 00:28:13,693 what can you do that other people can't do? 652 00:28:13,735 --> 00:28:16,995 What can you do that gains notoriety? 653 00:28:17,043 --> 00:28:19,003 This thing runs on attention. 654 00:28:19,045 --> 00:28:22,825 It runs on very superficial things. 655 00:28:22,875 --> 00:28:24,215 We gotta create attention. 656 00:28:24,267 --> 00:28:27,307 How can we do that in the position you're in? 657 00:28:27,357 --> 00:28:29,577 With his pulse on the wrestling landscape, 658 00:28:29,620 --> 00:28:32,750 Brian knew that he had to find a way to up the ante 659 00:28:32,798 --> 00:28:36,368 in order to shock even the most hardcore of fans. 660 00:28:36,410 --> 00:28:40,150 Brian knew if he could make people legitimately believe 661 00:28:40,196 --> 00:28:42,496 that he was a loose cannon, that he was nuts, 662 00:28:42,546 --> 00:28:44,196 he was off his rocker, he was capable of 663 00:28:44,244 --> 00:28:46,944 doing anything or saying anything at any time, 664 00:28:46,986 --> 00:28:48,466 that he could be one of the hottest guys 665 00:28:48,509 --> 00:28:49,859 in the wrestling industry. 666 00:28:49,902 --> 00:28:53,342 It was a pure money deal. What do we really want? 667 00:28:53,383 --> 00:28:56,263 Bischoff to offer you a hell of a lot more money, 668 00:28:56,299 --> 00:29:00,779 and we want Vince McMahon to see that you are of value 669 00:29:00,826 --> 00:29:04,346 and offer you more. And then you flip a coin. 670 00:29:04,394 --> 00:29:06,094 If he could play one side against the other 671 00:29:06,135 --> 00:29:08,485 in the middle of the burgeoning wrestling war, 672 00:29:08,529 --> 00:29:10,309 then he would come out much better, 673 00:29:10,357 --> 00:29:12,047 six figures per year better. 674 00:29:12,098 --> 00:29:14,538 And that's what he set about to do. 675 00:29:14,578 --> 00:29:17,408 ♪ 676 00:29:21,237 --> 00:29:23,457 Brian Pillman's plan was simple: 677 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,720 More attention means more money. 678 00:29:25,764 --> 00:29:30,034 As the WWF and WCW are engaged in a ratings battle, 679 00:29:30,072 --> 00:29:33,162 Brian exploits this to his advantage by playing them 680 00:29:33,206 --> 00:29:36,636 off each other, while driving up his own value. 681 00:29:36,687 --> 00:29:39,337 Brian came up with the Loose Cannon idea and 682 00:29:39,386 --> 00:29:44,736 started slowly integrating it into his television appearances. 683 00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:47,443 Bobby Heenan was the colour commentator. 684 00:29:47,481 --> 00:29:50,271 Bobby had had a broken neck, and he'd had surgery, 685 00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:51,920 and he was very protective of his neck and, 686 00:29:51,964 --> 00:29:54,144 Brian goes around behind Bobby and starts 687 00:29:54,183 --> 00:29:55,753 grabbing him by the shoulders and everything 688 00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:58,014 and on live television. Bobby says... 689 00:29:58,057 --> 00:30:00,187 What the fuck are you doing? Easy! 690 00:30:00,233 --> 00:30:01,803 And then Brian knew he got it. 691 00:30:01,843 --> 00:30:03,323 He got gold out of it, right, 692 00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:05,146 because now everybody's gonna be talking about 693 00:30:05,194 --> 00:30:08,854 the F-bomb that got dropped on Turner Broadcast. 694 00:30:08,894 --> 00:30:10,944 Bobby thought Brian was nuts. 695 00:30:10,983 --> 00:30:13,163 I think the Brain has left. 696 00:30:13,202 --> 00:30:16,252 It seemed real, to the point where people were confused 697 00:30:16,292 --> 00:30:18,862 whether it was real or not. 698 00:30:18,904 --> 00:30:20,254 One of the guys he was involved with was 699 00:30:20,296 --> 00:30:23,906 Kevin Sullivan who was the booker, the matchmaker. 700 00:30:23,952 --> 00:30:24,872 Oh, my goodness! 701 00:30:24,910 --> 00:30:26,170 They got a fight going on here! 702 00:30:26,215 --> 00:30:27,735 You know, they're just beating the hell out of 703 00:30:27,782 --> 00:30:30,612 each other and when Brian Pillman was ready to quit, 704 00:30:30,654 --> 00:30:32,614 when it was time for him to leave, he was like... 705 00:30:32,656 --> 00:30:36,176 I respect you, booker man. 706 00:30:36,225 --> 00:30:38,615 "I respect you, booker man." 707 00:30:38,662 --> 00:30:41,362 The mere fact that he was acknowledging on national 708 00:30:41,404 --> 00:30:44,764 television that Kevin Sullivan was a head writer 709 00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:46,709 of a wrestling show was something that had 710 00:30:46,757 --> 00:30:48,537 never been done before. 711 00:30:48,585 --> 00:30:51,145 Those that knew, knew. And those that didn't know, 712 00:30:51,197 --> 00:30:54,237 would need to find out what a booker man meant. 713 00:30:54,287 --> 00:30:57,677 It was a big thing because those guys are sensitive 714 00:30:57,725 --> 00:30:59,545 about exposing the business. 715 00:30:59,596 --> 00:31:01,286 When you're acting out a story line, 716 00:31:01,337 --> 00:31:02,767 it's considered a work. 717 00:31:02,817 --> 00:31:04,857 And, a lot of the boys backstage weren't really 718 00:31:04,906 --> 00:31:08,516 sure this was real or if this was a work. 719 00:31:08,562 --> 00:31:10,652 The wrestling locker rooms had never been 720 00:31:10,694 --> 00:31:12,354 invaded that way before. 721 00:31:12,392 --> 00:31:15,662 Because he knew if the other wrestlers believed it was real, 722 00:31:15,699 --> 00:31:18,219 then they would tell the newsletter editors. 723 00:31:18,267 --> 00:31:19,877 "Wow, that guy's really nuts." 724 00:31:19,921 --> 00:31:21,491 And the word would travel. 725 00:31:21,531 --> 00:31:22,971 I thought, this is going down bad. 726 00:31:23,011 --> 00:31:24,841 Brian's getting fired. 727 00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:26,583 And I'm out of contact with him anyway, 728 00:31:26,623 --> 00:31:28,503 so I think he's completely lost his mind, you know, 729 00:31:28,538 --> 00:31:29,928 he's not even talking to me anymore. 730 00:31:29,975 --> 00:31:33,665 The "smart fans" were starting to figure out that 731 00:31:33,717 --> 00:31:36,237 wrestling is manipulated, it's choreographed, 732 00:31:36,285 --> 00:31:38,805 it's pre-determined, but that guy's nuts and 733 00:31:38,853 --> 00:31:41,383 he's real, and he won't do what they tell him. 734 00:31:41,421 --> 00:31:44,551 And that sells tickets because you had no idea 735 00:31:44,598 --> 00:31:47,208 what or whether it was supposed to happen or not. 736 00:31:47,253 --> 00:31:52,213 He was convincing people that he was insane. 737 00:31:52,258 --> 00:31:55,568 Not only were the fans ready to be fooled, 738 00:31:55,609 --> 00:31:58,959 but all the wrestlers were, the management people were, 739 00:31:59,004 --> 00:32:01,014 there was a whole bunch of people that you could 740 00:32:01,049 --> 00:32:02,489 play like a violin. 741 00:32:02,529 --> 00:32:03,829 - Brian, I'd like to know-- - Nervous? 742 00:32:03,878 --> 00:32:05,578 No, I'm not nervous. I'm not nervous at all. 743 00:32:05,619 --> 00:32:07,189 You should be. 744 00:32:07,229 --> 00:32:11,019 I don't think anybody for sure at any given moment knew... 745 00:32:11,059 --> 00:32:14,579 if or not they were really being worked by Brian. 746 00:32:14,628 --> 00:32:16,668 But then he ended up working Bischoff. 747 00:32:16,717 --> 00:32:20,157 I said, "Get him to give you some kind of release." 748 00:32:20,199 --> 00:32:23,509 From his contract. "From your contract." 749 00:32:23,550 --> 00:32:26,550 Brian says to Eric Bischoff, "If you fire me, 750 00:32:26,596 --> 00:32:29,206 and then I bust out on TV the week afterwards and 751 00:32:29,251 --> 00:32:32,211 people will know this has just gone out of control." 752 00:32:32,254 --> 00:32:34,004 "The people in the office, the book keepers, 753 00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:36,389 whatever, if they see that I'm still under contract, 754 00:32:36,432 --> 00:32:37,872 they're gonna tell Dave. 755 00:32:37,912 --> 00:32:39,912 And then everyone's gonna know that it's all a work. 756 00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:41,698 So, you have to really fire me." 757 00:32:41,742 --> 00:32:44,142 "If you give me this legitimate termination letter, 758 00:32:44,179 --> 00:32:45,959 then I can show it to everybody and I can say, 759 00:32:46,007 --> 00:32:48,527 'Look at what the guy did! Can you believe this? 760 00:32:48,575 --> 00:32:51,005 Can you believe he fired me?'" 761 00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:54,276 He did! He gave him a release. 762 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,240 So, he was then free to negotiate with Vince McMahon 763 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,150 and the WWF against Eric Bischoff and WCW so 764 00:33:02,197 --> 00:33:05,287 he could get a better deal, all because Bischoff thought 765 00:33:05,331 --> 00:33:08,861 he was working with Brian to create this "illusion" and 766 00:33:08,899 --> 00:33:10,769 Brian was actually working Bischoff 767 00:33:10,814 --> 00:33:12,904 to create his own illusion. 768 00:33:12,947 --> 00:33:15,167 ♪ 769 00:33:15,210 --> 00:33:16,390 Dude, I mean... 770 00:33:16,429 --> 00:33:17,779 how do you do that? 771 00:33:17,821 --> 00:33:21,831 How-- I don't know anybody else that ever did that. 772 00:33:21,869 --> 00:33:23,609 Yeah, stroke of genius. 773 00:33:23,653 --> 00:33:25,183 I mean, it was a legitimate termination, 774 00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:27,660 but it was a legitimate termination... 775 00:33:27,701 --> 00:33:29,361 with a wink and a nod. 776 00:33:29,398 --> 00:33:31,788 I said, "Brian, go to WWF. 777 00:33:31,835 --> 00:33:33,185 I can't give you what you want. 778 00:33:33,228 --> 00:33:35,838 Get yourself over there so that when you come back, 779 00:33:35,883 --> 00:33:38,153 and I promise you, I will bring you back, 780 00:33:38,190 --> 00:33:40,580 it'll give me the ability to pay you more 'cause 781 00:33:40,627 --> 00:33:43,367 you've raised your own value." 782 00:33:43,412 --> 00:33:45,412 In his world, it's his stunt. 783 00:33:45,458 --> 00:33:48,898 He is flattered that he's the guy that's pulling the 784 00:33:48,939 --> 00:33:52,469 great stunt, even though he was the power to begin with! 785 00:33:52,508 --> 00:33:55,948 For anyone to suggest... 786 00:33:55,990 --> 00:33:58,470 that the Loose Cannon character was designed to 787 00:33:58,514 --> 00:34:02,524 manipulate me into giving Brian Pillman more money, 788 00:34:02,562 --> 00:34:05,612 when in fact, Brian Pillman and I discussed how to make 789 00:34:05,652 --> 00:34:08,872 this character work even better so that at some point 790 00:34:08,916 --> 00:34:12,696 I could give him the money, it kind of flies in the face 791 00:34:12,746 --> 00:34:15,096 of the rumours and the innuendo. 792 00:34:15,140 --> 00:34:17,190 Oh, man, that's the greatest thing you can do. 793 00:34:17,229 --> 00:34:19,709 If you can fuck somebody over and have them think 794 00:34:19,753 --> 00:34:22,153 that it's a great idea, that's... 795 00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:24,370 you know, ha, I mean, that's the trick of 796 00:34:24,410 --> 00:34:26,020 breaking up with a woman, you know, 797 00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:28,114 make her think that it's her idea. 798 00:34:28,153 --> 00:34:30,943 ♪ 799 00:34:34,637 --> 00:34:37,207 As a free agent, Brian takes charge of 800 00:34:37,249 --> 00:34:39,289 his own appearances and publicity. 801 00:34:39,338 --> 00:34:42,648 His insider knowledge, mastery of manipulation, 802 00:34:42,689 --> 00:34:46,039 and disregard for exposing the industry solidifies 803 00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:48,524 his position as the ultimate ring master. 804 00:34:48,564 --> 00:34:51,484 In the wrestling war layout at the time, 805 00:34:51,524 --> 00:34:54,964 the fans knew one thing: if you are really working 806 00:34:55,005 --> 00:34:58,835 for one promotion, you can't appear for any of the others. 807 00:34:58,879 --> 00:35:02,669 Tonight will be one of the most extreme hours of 808 00:35:02,709 --> 00:35:05,359 wrestling with-- and wait a minute... 809 00:35:05,407 --> 00:35:07,407 One of the things with trying to prove it was real 810 00:35:07,453 --> 00:35:09,803 is that WCW hated ECW so, 811 00:35:09,846 --> 00:35:12,366 Brian must be on the outs with WCW. 812 00:35:12,414 --> 00:35:14,764 [cheering] 813 00:35:14,808 --> 00:35:18,898 Renegade promotion ECW is gaining traction for pushing 814 00:35:18,942 --> 00:35:21,822 the boundaries of wrestling, and is the perfect stage for 815 00:35:21,858 --> 00:35:24,508 the Loose Cannon's unpredictable antics. 816 00:35:24,557 --> 00:35:27,037 He could curse, he could say off-colour things. 817 00:35:27,081 --> 00:35:31,391 Eric Bischoff is each and every one 818 00:35:31,433 --> 00:35:33,703 of these motherfucking... 819 00:35:33,740 --> 00:35:37,090 smart marks rolled up into one 820 00:35:37,135 --> 00:35:39,435 giant piece of shit! 821 00:35:39,485 --> 00:35:42,965 I thought Brian was losing his mind, 822 00:35:43,010 --> 00:35:45,270 as opposed to being, you know, brilliant. 823 00:35:45,317 --> 00:35:48,227 I loved it. I was just nothing but entertained by it. 824 00:35:48,276 --> 00:35:50,056 [cheering] 825 00:35:50,104 --> 00:35:53,024 Damn near whipped it out and was gonna piss in the ring... 826 00:35:53,063 --> 00:35:55,683 that's a pretty strong statement. 827 00:35:55,718 --> 00:35:57,808 And, pardon my language, I was like, man, 828 00:35:57,851 --> 00:35:59,421 this motherfucker's out there. 829 00:35:59,461 --> 00:36:01,161 You know, and I mean that in a good way. 830 00:36:01,202 --> 00:36:02,552 Get him the hell out of here. 831 00:36:02,595 --> 00:36:04,855 This stuff was working on both levels. 832 00:36:04,901 --> 00:36:07,471 The fans who weren't inside, they just thought that 833 00:36:07,513 --> 00:36:10,913 he was crazy and he was doing wild over-the-top things, 834 00:36:10,951 --> 00:36:14,041 but for the fans who did know the inside terminology 835 00:36:14,084 --> 00:36:16,834 or were with the secrets, they were like, 836 00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:19,310 they can't be allowing him to do that. 837 00:36:19,351 --> 00:36:20,961 Oh! 838 00:36:21,004 --> 00:36:22,754 When he would have a television appearance, 839 00:36:22,789 --> 00:36:25,439 it would be arranged so that it didn't look like 840 00:36:25,487 --> 00:36:27,007 he was supposed to be there. 841 00:36:27,054 --> 00:36:29,364 Or, he was doing something he wasn't supposed to be doing. 842 00:36:29,404 --> 00:36:32,064 One time, he even to protest the matches that he'd 843 00:36:32,102 --> 00:36:34,932 been given, he wrestled a giant pencil because 844 00:36:34,975 --> 00:36:36,755 pencil in inside wrestling knowledge was 845 00:36:36,803 --> 00:36:38,463 another name for the booker. 846 00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:40,810 I always end up fighting with the pencil. 847 00:36:40,850 --> 00:36:42,460 And then he's showing up and doing 848 00:36:42,504 --> 00:36:44,164 these funny little vignettes. 849 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,382 He's got one, he's cooking, 850 00:36:45,420 --> 00:36:47,990 and flames are going out of the frying pan. 851 00:36:48,031 --> 00:36:50,901 And they hired a woman with a baby, 852 00:36:50,947 --> 00:36:52,857 and then the guy comes to punch Pillman, 853 00:36:52,906 --> 00:36:54,906 and he grabs the baby and holds the baby up 854 00:36:54,951 --> 00:36:56,481 in front of him. 855 00:36:56,518 --> 00:36:58,088 You scum! You piece of-- 856 00:36:58,128 --> 00:37:01,128 And I never once called Brian and said, 857 00:37:01,175 --> 00:37:04,085 "Hey, dude, are you working? Are you shooting?" 858 00:37:04,134 --> 00:37:06,274 You know, because I didn't want to know. 859 00:37:06,311 --> 00:37:09,011 But I thought what he was doing was damn sure brilliant. 860 00:37:09,052 --> 00:37:11,492 Some people think my dad was crazy and then, 861 00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:12,883 you know, other people are like, 862 00:37:12,926 --> 00:37:15,146 you know, "Your dad was," you know, "not crazy. 863 00:37:15,189 --> 00:37:16,539 That was just a gimmick." 864 00:37:16,582 --> 00:37:18,932 And a lot of people say he kind of fell into that, 865 00:37:18,975 --> 00:37:21,755 like, they couldn't, they couldn't decipher if it was-- 866 00:37:21,804 --> 00:37:23,634 is this Brian Pillman now? 867 00:37:23,676 --> 00:37:26,106 Or, you know, like, is he still in character? 868 00:37:26,156 --> 00:37:27,716 Or is this just how he is? 869 00:37:27,767 --> 00:37:31,207 It's all just their perception of reality. 870 00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:33,989 It was just like this, this blur between, 871 00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:36,124 like, what is actually going on? 872 00:37:36,166 --> 00:37:37,556 Like, you don't even know anymore, 873 00:37:37,603 --> 00:37:39,433 but that was, like, the magic of it. 874 00:37:39,474 --> 00:37:42,564 There was a lot of Andy Kaufman in, in Brian. 875 00:37:42,608 --> 00:37:44,518 The Loose Cannon became Brian, 876 00:37:44,566 --> 00:37:46,866 that was who he was. 877 00:37:46,916 --> 00:37:48,476 Brian was a renegade. 878 00:37:48,527 --> 00:37:50,357 Brian was a little bit of an outlaw. 879 00:37:50,398 --> 00:37:52,918 Again, remember, when you're not the biggest dog 880 00:37:52,966 --> 00:37:56,616 of the litter, and you got that gravelly voice... 881 00:37:56,665 --> 00:37:59,355 you've had 30, plus, throat operations 882 00:37:59,407 --> 00:38:02,277 when you're a small child, you get an attitude. 883 00:38:02,323 --> 00:38:04,503 I said this many times, the greatest wrestlers 884 00:38:04,543 --> 00:38:08,293 I've ever worked with are essentially natural, 885 00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:11,719 organic extensions of their own personality. 886 00:38:11,767 --> 00:38:14,337 And the Loose Cannon was just that. 887 00:38:14,379 --> 00:38:17,119 I think the message that Brian showing up at ECW 888 00:38:17,164 --> 00:38:18,604 sent to the other two companies is, 889 00:38:18,644 --> 00:38:20,994 he was a free agent, that he was a gun slinger and 890 00:38:21,037 --> 00:38:22,337 he'd go to the highest bidder. 891 00:38:22,387 --> 00:38:23,647 Vince is watching. 892 00:38:23,692 --> 00:38:25,132 It's the hottest thing in wrestling. 893 00:38:25,172 --> 00:38:26,742 The only one that really knew what was going on 894 00:38:26,782 --> 00:38:29,612 was Dave Meltzer. I said, "Hey, we have to tell Meltzer." 895 00:38:29,655 --> 00:38:32,135 I value his friendship more than I value-- 896 00:38:32,179 --> 00:38:33,919 you know, any of this shit. 897 00:38:33,963 --> 00:38:35,403 Something happened and I called up Kim, 898 00:38:35,443 --> 00:38:37,883 and I go, "Oh, god, Brian's... Brian's in trouble." 899 00:38:37,924 --> 00:38:40,014 He just goes, you know, like, "Brian... 900 00:38:40,056 --> 00:38:41,576 you know, Brian's doing this. 901 00:38:41,623 --> 00:38:43,633 He's, he's come up with a character, 902 00:38:43,669 --> 00:38:45,629 and he's-- you gotta work everybody." 903 00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:47,371 And Brian goes, "What do I do with Dave?" 904 00:38:47,412 --> 00:38:49,762 And he goes, "You don't talk to Dave because 905 00:38:49,805 --> 00:38:51,235 if you tell him, 906 00:38:51,285 --> 00:38:54,375 then he's gonna have to say it because that's his role. 907 00:38:54,419 --> 00:38:56,379 And, I don't want you lying to him." 908 00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:59,121 So, literally, like, he didn't talk to me for 909 00:38:59,162 --> 00:39:01,472 a couple months there. Oh, yeah, without a doubt, 910 00:39:01,513 --> 00:39:03,953 he wanted to fool me with the character. 911 00:39:03,993 --> 00:39:06,433 And he did for a while. 912 00:39:06,474 --> 00:39:08,744 And again, who are the real marks? 913 00:39:08,781 --> 00:39:12,961 Who are the ultimate marks? Bischoff, and then we got Vince. 914 00:39:13,002 --> 00:39:15,922 Vince McMahon was then as he is now the 915 00:39:15,962 --> 00:39:19,752 undisputed leader, ruler, manipulator, organizer, 916 00:39:19,792 --> 00:39:22,362 and owner of World Wrestling Entertainment. 917 00:39:24,927 --> 00:39:26,407 - Vince? - Yeah, you. 918 00:39:26,451 --> 00:39:28,321 Yeah, what do you-- You know what you do with a whore? 919 00:39:28,366 --> 00:39:31,366 You fuck 'em. 920 00:39:31,412 --> 00:39:33,022 That's, that's what I thought of Vince, 921 00:39:33,066 --> 00:39:36,976 that's how I think of Vince. 922 00:39:37,026 --> 00:39:39,806 As Brian becomes the talk of the wrestling world, 923 00:39:39,855 --> 00:39:43,075 it's time for the final step of his master plan: 924 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:45,689 track down and secure the attention 925 00:39:45,731 --> 00:39:47,911 of wrestling's biggest power player. 926 00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:50,300 ♪ 927 00:39:54,522 --> 00:39:57,312 In perhaps his boldest stunt yet, 928 00:39:57,351 --> 00:39:59,881 Brian Pillman plots to get the attention of 929 00:39:59,919 --> 00:40:03,399 Vince McMahon at an insider industry tradeshow in 930 00:40:03,444 --> 00:40:06,584 Las Vegas, the last place anyone would expect 931 00:40:06,621 --> 00:40:08,801 to see the Loose Cannon. 932 00:40:08,841 --> 00:40:11,151 Okay, so I'm in Vegas. 933 00:40:11,191 --> 00:40:14,281 I was in there and I was leaving and, 934 00:40:14,324 --> 00:40:16,894 Brian's coming and Brian's in full gimmick at this point. 935 00:40:16,936 --> 00:40:19,546 And then, I see him, "Hey, Dave." Whatever. 936 00:40:19,591 --> 00:40:22,071 I'm leaving, he goes, "Can I get your credential?" 937 00:40:22,115 --> 00:40:23,725 And I go, "Yeah, here. Here's my credential." 938 00:40:23,769 --> 00:40:26,859 And he went in and makes a beeline for 939 00:40:26,902 --> 00:40:29,472 Jim Ross and Vince McMahon. 940 00:40:29,514 --> 00:40:32,604 He had an idea to be the most outrageous, 941 00:40:32,647 --> 00:40:35,077 outlandish, over-the-top character that 942 00:40:35,128 --> 00:40:37,518 Vince McMahon had ever met. 943 00:40:37,565 --> 00:40:40,085 He's gonna try to get Vince McMahon's attention. 944 00:40:40,133 --> 00:40:41,533 Doing his whole Brian Pillman, 945 00:40:41,569 --> 00:40:44,089 "Hey, Vince, ah-dah-dah, hey, let's take a picture!" 946 00:40:44,137 --> 00:40:47,307 "Vince McMahon! Motherfucker! God almighty!" 947 00:40:47,357 --> 00:40:48,837 "It's the greatest thing in the world 948 00:40:48,881 --> 00:40:51,271 I got a chance to meet ya! Can I get the arm around..." 949 00:40:51,318 --> 00:40:53,058 Somebody takes a picture. 950 00:40:53,102 --> 00:40:54,932 And Vince is like, "Who is this guy?" 951 00:40:54,974 --> 00:40:56,414 He made an impression. 952 00:40:56,454 --> 00:40:58,414 You didn't know whether he was a homicidal maniac or 953 00:40:58,456 --> 00:41:00,806 just a guy that was having fun. 954 00:41:00,849 --> 00:41:02,979 McMahon thought, "We can't hire this guy, JR. 955 00:41:03,025 --> 00:41:05,025 We can't hire this guy, JR. He's crazy." 956 00:41:05,071 --> 00:41:08,121 I said, "He's crazy like a fox." "What do you mean?" 957 00:41:08,161 --> 00:41:09,821 "Well, he told me what he was gonna do." 958 00:41:09,858 --> 00:41:13,078 "He did?" "Yeah, he's creative. 959 00:41:13,122 --> 00:41:15,212 He's bold. He's kind of like you are, Vince. 960 00:41:15,255 --> 00:41:16,735 He'll take a chance." 961 00:41:16,778 --> 00:41:18,868 Brian's balls at that point and that day, 962 00:41:18,911 --> 00:41:20,611 would probably fit in a wheelbarrow. 963 00:41:20,652 --> 00:41:22,742 And dude, you work Vince McMahon, you know, 964 00:41:22,784 --> 00:41:25,534 especially back in the day, pretty good rib. 965 00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:27,310 And got his attention, too. 966 00:41:27,354 --> 00:41:29,574 It was, it was pretty frickin' genius, 967 00:41:29,617 --> 00:41:31,397 what he was doing. 968 00:41:31,445 --> 00:41:33,875 But, but, he wanted to stay in WCW 'cause 969 00:41:33,926 --> 00:41:35,836 WWF didn't offer guaranteed money. 970 00:41:35,884 --> 00:41:38,894 And also, Vince was always pushing the bigger guys so, 971 00:41:38,931 --> 00:41:41,411 Brian always felt that WCW was his company and 972 00:41:41,455 --> 00:41:43,195 the company he would do the best in anyway. 973 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,329 People go, like, "Oh, "he did this manipulation 974 00:41:45,372 --> 00:41:46,852 of his contract to go to WWF." 975 00:41:46,895 --> 00:41:49,505 No, he did the manipulation of his contract to be able 976 00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:52,250 to negotiate with WWF to raise his money with WCW. 977 00:41:52,292 --> 00:41:55,472 Brian's bold plan is a success as he is in 978 00:41:55,513 --> 00:41:58,563 negotiations for major contracts with both 979 00:41:58,603 --> 00:42:01,133 WCW and WWF. 980 00:42:01,170 --> 00:42:04,430 All he has to do is choose the right path. 981 00:42:07,742 --> 00:42:09,312 No, it's money! 982 00:42:09,352 --> 00:42:10,882 That's the bottom fucking line! 983 00:42:10,919 --> 00:42:12,399 It's money! 984 00:42:12,442 --> 00:42:14,582 And these people are in fantasy land. 985 00:42:14,619 --> 00:42:17,269 And it's money. 986 00:42:17,317 --> 00:42:19,187 The only problem is... 987 00:42:19,232 --> 00:42:23,282 like the Hebrew saying, 988 00:42:23,323 --> 00:42:27,413 "Man plans and God laughs". 989 00:42:27,457 --> 00:42:29,717 We're talking and it's always about, you know, 990 00:42:29,764 --> 00:42:31,074 "I gotta save money, I gotta save money," 991 00:42:31,113 --> 00:42:33,293 and then he buys an $80,000 Humvee. 992 00:42:33,333 --> 00:42:35,643 I couldn't fathom the idea of, 993 00:42:35,683 --> 00:42:38,603 I've got 5 kids, I've gotta make money now, 994 00:42:38,643 --> 00:42:41,123 I've gotta save money, and then buying a Humvee. 995 00:42:41,167 --> 00:42:42,687 [sighs] God. 996 00:42:42,734 --> 00:42:45,824 He would drive that wherever Brian wanted to drive that. 997 00:42:45,867 --> 00:42:48,037 He didn't want to sit at the stop light, 998 00:42:48,087 --> 00:42:50,657 he drove down a gully and up the other side 999 00:42:50,698 --> 00:42:52,048 in that Hummer. 1000 00:42:52,091 --> 00:42:54,701 He didn't, you know, follow the rules. 1001 00:42:54,746 --> 00:42:57,576 I was actually in Miami, modeling, 1002 00:42:57,618 --> 00:43:00,448 but I called to check on the kids and, 1003 00:43:00,490 --> 00:43:01,880 the neighbour across the street, 1004 00:43:01,927 --> 00:43:03,617 I called her 'cause I didn't get an answer, 1005 00:43:03,668 --> 00:43:08,318 and she said, "My God, I just passed the Hummer and 1006 00:43:08,368 --> 00:43:10,888 little Brian's car seat's out in the middle of the yard 1007 00:43:10,936 --> 00:43:13,326 and big Brian's being flown to the hospital." 1008 00:43:13,373 --> 00:43:23,253 ♪ 1009 00:43:23,296 --> 00:43:25,386 I remember he flippedit, rolled it. 1010 00:43:25,428 --> 00:43:26,818 It was severe. 1011 00:43:26,865 --> 00:43:29,075 The wreck happened during the negotiations. 1012 00:43:29,128 --> 00:43:30,558 They're getting damaged goods. 1013 00:43:30,608 --> 00:43:32,958 It was truly the deal of, you can get on the 1014 00:43:33,001 --> 00:43:35,531 tiger's back, but how do you get off? 1015 00:43:35,569 --> 00:43:37,009 Fate figured that out. 1016 00:43:37,049 --> 00:43:39,229 There'd been a lot of wrestler deaths, 1017 00:43:39,268 --> 00:43:41,968 but not of a guy who was actually on the way to 1018 00:43:42,010 --> 00:43:43,530 the show at that moment. 1019 00:43:43,577 --> 00:43:45,407 It's like if Brian could just see the future and 1020 00:43:45,448 --> 00:43:46,798 what happened, Brian would have just, 1021 00:43:46,841 --> 00:43:50,191 "Fuck, oh my god. No drugs, no nothing." 1022 00:43:50,236 --> 00:43:51,716 I know it would have scared him straight. 1023 00:43:51,759 --> 00:43:54,369 It's crazy how you go from having a silver platter 1024 00:43:54,414 --> 00:43:56,294 growing up to not even knowing 1025 00:43:56,329 --> 00:43:58,419 when your next meal is going to be. 1026 00:43:58,469 --> 00:44:03,019 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 81864

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