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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:27,161 --> 00:00:28,696 No, rotate. 2 00:00:34,335 --> 00:00:36,003 You have to rotate it. 3 00:00:40,374 --> 00:00:42,443 Jesus Christ. May I? 4 00:01:03,564 --> 00:01:05,966 Oh, thank you. 5 00:01:17,878 --> 00:01:19,547 That's Linda Tripp. 6 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:38,932 - Morning, Ron. 7 00:01:47,275 --> 00:01:49,943 Hello, Ken, it's Linda Tripp. 8 00:01:50,077 --> 00:01:53,080 Again. It was alarming enough to be asked to write a how-to 9 00:01:53,214 --> 00:01:55,683 manual for my own job, but it has now been nearly 10 00:01:55,783 --> 00:01:58,286 one month since I requested the materials I need to even 11 00:01:58,419 --> 00:01:59,787 attempt to start on this, 12 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:01,422 and-and still I've received nothing. 13 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:13,267 At a minimum, 14 00:02:13,434 --> 00:02:15,203 I will need my correspondence books 15 00:02:15,269 --> 00:02:19,940 and all volumes of the archival histories of JCOC 59 and 60. 16 00:02:23,544 --> 00:02:26,614 If anyone cast the slightest glance at my cubicle, 17 00:02:26,780 --> 00:02:29,450 they would easily find all of these on my desk there. 18 00:02:33,554 --> 00:02:36,056 Lucianne, have you had any occasion to 19 00:02:36,123 --> 00:02:37,625 talk to Linda recently? 20 00:02:37,758 --> 00:02:40,794 I haven't talked to Linda since, uh, uh, the day 21 00:02:40,894 --> 00:02:42,963 she wore the wire to the Ritz-Carlton Hotel. 22 00:02:43,096 --> 00:02:45,065 Judge Starr asked her not to be in touch. 23 00:02:45,132 --> 00:02:47,635 -With anyone? - Right, with anyone. 24 00:02:47,735 --> 00:02:48,969 Are you surprised that only one 25 00:02:49,136 --> 00:02:51,572 out of ten Americans view her favorably? 26 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,641 No, not with how the White Houe 27 00:02:53,741 --> 00:02:55,976 and sundry sympathetic people have 28 00:02:56,076 --> 00:02:58,746 framed the discussion of Linda in such a negative wa. 29 00:02:58,812 --> 00:03:01,249 Do you think it also might be that people don't 30 00:03:01,315 --> 00:03:02,983 like people who tape their friends? 31 00:03:17,498 --> 00:03:18,832 Rotate. 32 00:03:33,781 --> 00:03:35,115 - Hello. - Hi. 33 00:03:35,215 --> 00:03:37,685 This is all that there was. Nothing from your office... 34 00:03:37,818 --> 00:03:39,453 Ugh. 35 00:03:44,458 --> 00:03:46,794 Oh, and I, uh... I checked the machine. 36 00:03:46,894 --> 00:03:48,529 This lady named Jane from The New Yorker, 37 00:03:48,662 --> 00:03:50,631 she left, like, four messages. 38 00:03:50,731 --> 00:03:52,300 - She's writing an article about... - Fabulous. 39 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,868 There's absolutely nothing I can do about that. 40 00:03:54,968 --> 00:03:57,738 Well, you could at least call her back and talk to her. 41 00:03:57,871 --> 00:04:00,908 Allison, my attorney made it very plain. It would be unwise. 42 00:04:01,041 --> 00:04:02,242 I would lose my immunity. 43 00:04:02,376 --> 00:04:04,312 Meanwhile, the Clintons get to turn me 44 00:04:04,412 --> 00:04:07,147 into Joseph Goebbels. 45 00:04:07,214 --> 00:04:09,317 And the whole world believes them. 46 00:04:11,985 --> 00:04:13,654 Mom, just come home already. 47 00:04:16,824 --> 00:04:19,226 - I'm sick of staying with Dad. 48 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:21,762 Can't blame you on that. 49 00:04:22,996 --> 00:04:24,932 - Look, the reporters are gone 50 00:04:25,065 --> 00:04:26,734 from our street and I go by every day. 51 00:04:26,834 --> 00:04:28,436 Well, you shouldn't. 52 00:04:28,569 --> 00:04:29,903 It's not safe. 53 00:04:30,003 --> 00:04:31,939 But there's no one there anymore. 54 00:04:32,072 --> 00:04:34,107 - I mean, come on. Mom? 55 00:04:34,241 --> 00:04:36,510 This? This is not healthy. 56 00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:38,679 You have your grand jury thing, you are under 57 00:04:38,779 --> 00:04:40,914 so much stress and you are just sitting here alone 58 00:04:41,048 --> 00:04:42,950 all day, reading articles about yourself. 59 00:04:45,285 --> 00:04:47,421 It's not just my testimony. 60 00:04:49,122 --> 00:04:51,024 I'm going to make a statement. 61 00:04:51,091 --> 00:04:52,593 What do you mean? 62 00:04:52,726 --> 00:04:56,263 I've decided, once I have my freedom back, 63 00:04:56,430 --> 00:05:00,434 I'm going to give a speech. I'm going to address the nation. 64 00:05:00,568 --> 00:05:02,603 What are you going to say? 65 00:05:03,937 --> 00:05:06,440 I'm simply going to tell my story. 66 00:05:25,292 --> 00:05:27,395 It's not fair. 67 00:05:27,461 --> 00:05:31,331 He didn't get paraded down to the courthouse. 68 00:05:31,465 --> 00:05:33,333 He got to testify at home. 69 00:05:33,467 --> 00:05:34,902 I'm not the president. 70 00:05:36,837 --> 00:05:38,972 Okay, no, really-- how do I look? 71 00:05:39,072 --> 00:05:40,841 I'm going for "not a deranged whore." 72 00:05:42,075 --> 00:05:44,144 Okay, what do you want me to say? 73 00:05:44,311 --> 00:05:47,981 I'm about to be questioned by 23 strangers, 74 00:05:48,081 --> 00:05:49,316 and whoever they are, 75 00:05:49,483 --> 00:05:51,251 I'm sure they already hate me. 76 00:05:51,318 --> 00:05:53,253 PLATO Are you ready? 77 00:05:57,425 --> 00:06:00,661 BILL We committed ourselves to a comprehensive strategy 78 00:06:00,828 --> 00:06:06,166 to lower the crime rate and mae America a safer place to live. 79 00:06:06,266 --> 00:06:09,036 - I gave him that tie. - What? 80 00:06:09,169 --> 00:06:10,838 ...has shown remarkable result. 81 00:06:10,938 --> 00:06:12,105 It's Zegna. 82 00:06:12,172 --> 00:06:13,941 I bought it at the Neiman's in Mazza Gallerie. 83 00:06:14,007 --> 00:06:16,343 Does he know that she is testifying today? 84 00:06:16,477 --> 00:06:17,545 I'm sure. 85 00:06:17,678 --> 00:06:19,346 Do you think he's trying to send her a message? 86 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:20,714 I mean, is that even legal? 87 00:06:20,848 --> 00:06:22,182 - Should I tell someone about that? - Mom. 88 00:06:22,282 --> 00:06:23,551 We should resolve to do better. 89 00:06:23,684 --> 00:06:27,187 It's fine. I'm not going to let it mess me up. 90 00:06:36,864 --> 00:06:41,702 She's here, she's here! She's in that car! 91 00:06:41,835 --> 00:06:43,203 Monica! Hey, Monica! 92 00:06:47,741 --> 00:06:49,710 I can save you, Monica! 93 00:06:51,679 --> 00:06:53,313 You are going to hell! 94 00:06:53,413 --> 00:06:55,483 Monica, how are you feeling? 95 00:06:57,217 --> 00:06:58,986 Monica, are you in love with the president? 96 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:02,055 Feel ready? 97 00:07:02,189 --> 00:07:04,424 I'm just excited to see the inside of a courtroom. 98 00:07:04,558 --> 00:07:06,760 You know, this is the first time Starr's given me anything 99 00:07:06,894 --> 00:07:08,562 to do beyond secretarial work. 100 00:07:08,696 --> 00:07:11,231 He is old-fashioned. 101 00:07:11,364 --> 00:07:13,433 And look, Monica and I are familiar, 102 00:07:13,567 --> 00:07:16,103 but Starr does have a point. 103 00:07:16,236 --> 00:07:18,739 It's better that a woman asks some of these questions. 104 00:07:19,740 --> 00:07:21,742 - She's here. - Okay. 105 00:07:21,875 --> 00:07:23,577 You can bring in the jury. 106 00:07:32,352 --> 00:07:36,624 - Are they already in there? - Yes, they've just been seated. 107 00:07:36,757 --> 00:07:39,026 We'll be right out here, anytime you need. 108 00:07:54,274 --> 00:07:55,943 Good morning. 109 00:07:56,076 --> 00:07:58,111 You can have a seat right there. 110 00:08:10,658 --> 00:08:11,892 Can you raise your right hand? 111 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:13,493 Oh, sure, yes. 112 00:08:15,128 --> 00:08:18,632 Do you, Monica S. Lewinsky, swear to tell the truth, 113 00:08:18,766 --> 00:08:21,301 the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 114 00:08:21,401 --> 00:08:23,070 I do. 115 00:08:27,975 --> 00:08:30,911 Now, uh, Ms. Lewinsky, what we're going to do 116 00:08:30,978 --> 00:08:32,512 is we're going to start off 117 00:08:32,646 --> 00:08:34,682 talking about your relationship with the president. 118 00:08:36,817 --> 00:08:39,152 Do I not get to learn people's names? 119 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,424 Uh, the answer to that is no. 120 00:08:44,491 --> 00:08:46,493 Um, I know it seems kind of... 121 00:08:46,660 --> 00:08:47,995 Kind of awkward. 122 00:08:48,095 --> 00:08:52,532 It's important that the record have no identifications. 123 00:08:52,666 --> 00:08:54,334 Oh, okay. 124 00:08:54,434 --> 00:08:57,437 Now, as we have discussed, our office feels you'll be more 125 00:08:57,504 --> 00:09:00,674 comfortable getting certain questions from Ms. Immergut, 126 00:09:00,774 --> 00:09:03,711 so I'm going to turn it over to her now. 127 00:09:03,844 --> 00:09:06,714 Ms. Lewinsky, 128 00:09:06,847 --> 00:09:08,348 when did you start your relationship 129 00:09:08,481 --> 00:09:11,184 with the president of the United States? 130 00:09:12,352 --> 00:09:14,622 November 15, 1995. 131 00:09:14,688 --> 00:09:17,190 Um, it was during the shutdown 132 00:09:17,290 --> 00:09:18,959 when I was assigned to the West Wing. 133 00:09:19,026 --> 00:09:20,694 Can you tell the grand jury what happened? 134 00:09:22,796 --> 00:09:25,633 Around... uh, around 8:00 in the evening 135 00:09:25,699 --> 00:09:28,969 I was headed into Mr. Stephanopoulos's office. 136 00:09:29,036 --> 00:09:32,305 The president... was in there. 137 00:09:32,405 --> 00:09:37,577 He invited me into the next room and then... 138 00:09:37,711 --> 00:09:38,979 we kissed. 139 00:09:39,046 --> 00:09:42,215 Did anything else happen between you? 140 00:09:45,385 --> 00:09:47,054 Um... 141 00:09:48,055 --> 00:09:53,260 And we were more... physically intimate after that. 142 00:09:53,393 --> 00:09:55,395 And what do you mean by that? 143 00:10:07,908 --> 00:10:09,076 On that occasion, did you 144 00:10:09,209 --> 00:10:10,510 perform oral sex on the president? 145 00:10:10,610 --> 00:10:13,246 God, this is embarrassing. 146 00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:16,016 I assure you we won't be dwelling on this. 147 00:10:19,119 --> 00:10:20,353 Yes, I did. 148 00:10:20,453 --> 00:10:22,923 Jesus. 149 00:10:23,757 --> 00:10:26,760 Was there any other physical intimacy performed? 150 00:10:30,597 --> 00:10:33,133 Everything up to oral sex. 151 00:10:34,434 --> 00:10:36,937 Now, to avoid you having to go into each subsequent 152 00:10:37,104 --> 00:10:39,272 act of physical intimacy, 153 00:10:39,439 --> 00:10:44,945 we'll introduce what we have marked as Exhibit ML-7. 154 00:11:01,061 --> 00:11:02,996 Did you provide all the information listed 155 00:11:03,130 --> 00:11:04,464 on this chart? 156 00:11:09,402 --> 00:11:10,804 Yes, I did. 157 00:11:10,971 --> 00:11:14,141 This details each of your sexual encounters 158 00:11:14,307 --> 00:11:15,242 with President Clinton. 159 00:11:15,308 --> 00:11:17,244 To the best of your knowledge, 160 00:11:17,310 --> 00:11:18,645 is it all accurate? 161 00:11:20,180 --> 00:11:24,317 Yes. I want to hide under this table, but yes. 162 00:11:24,417 --> 00:11:28,655 Ms. Lewinsky, did your relationship with the president 163 00:11:28,822 --> 00:11:33,193 have a... non-sexual component? 164 00:11:34,194 --> 00:11:35,428 - Yes, it did. - Could you describe that 165 00:11:35,495 --> 00:11:36,830 for the grand jury? 166 00:11:36,930 --> 00:11:39,499 Sure, um... 167 00:11:41,701 --> 00:11:44,004 It was more than just... 168 00:11:45,705 --> 00:11:48,175 We enjoyed being with each other. 169 00:11:50,210 --> 00:11:52,445 He'd-- we would tell jokes, 170 00:11:52,545 --> 00:11:54,948 talk about our childhoods, current events. 171 00:11:55,015 --> 00:11:57,684 Sometimes we'd just... 172 00:11:59,619 --> 00:12:01,388 Um, we'd just be affectionate. 173 00:12:01,521 --> 00:12:05,025 He'd push my hair out of my face. 174 00:12:06,693 --> 00:12:08,862 I think back on it and... 175 00:12:08,962 --> 00:12:11,231 he always made me smile when I was with him. 176 00:12:11,364 --> 00:12:13,700 It was a lot of, uh... 177 00:12:17,137 --> 00:12:18,872 He was sunshine. 178 00:12:26,646 --> 00:12:30,483 - We okay for a break? - Uh, yeah, ten minutes? 179 00:12:31,919 --> 00:12:33,753 Ten minutes, everyone. 180 00:12:55,909 --> 00:12:59,446 Moving through your affidavit here, let me ask you a question. 181 00:12:59,579 --> 00:13:01,849 Paragraph eight begins, 182 00:13:01,949 --> 00:13:04,084 "I have never had a sexual relationship 183 00:13:04,217 --> 00:13:06,086 with the president." 184 00:13:06,219 --> 00:13:07,287 Is that true? 185 00:13:09,589 --> 00:13:10,924 - No. - Okay, 186 00:13:11,024 --> 00:13:13,426 so the next logical 187 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:16,263 why were you willing to say something false 188 00:13:16,429 --> 00:13:18,265 under penalty of perjury? 189 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:23,536 Uh, I did not think my... my private relationship 190 00:13:23,603 --> 00:13:25,138 was anyone's business. 191 00:13:28,141 --> 00:13:31,811 No one asked me to lie-- not the president, not anyone. 192 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,449 I made that decision. By myself. 193 00:13:36,549 --> 00:13:40,287 And I wish I hadn't, to put it mildly. 194 00:13:40,453 --> 00:13:42,289 Thank you. 195 00:13:42,389 --> 00:13:45,125 Now, the grand jury has some questions for you. 196 00:13:46,994 --> 00:13:49,496 - Okay. - Did you and the president 197 00:13:49,629 --> 00:13:51,464 ever talk about denying the relationship 198 00:13:51,564 --> 00:13:53,000 if anyone asked about it? 199 00:13:53,133 --> 00:13:56,136 I offered that on-on my own. 200 00:13:56,303 --> 00:13:58,305 I always told him I would deny it. 201 00:13:58,405 --> 00:13:59,839 Why did you keep that stained black dress? 202 00:13:59,973 --> 00:14:01,474 - It's a blue dress. - Blue. - Blue. 203 00:14:01,641 --> 00:14:03,476 Answer the question, please. 204 00:14:03,643 --> 00:14:06,313 Well, I have a lot of clothes, 205 00:14:06,479 --> 00:14:08,982 and so I don't usually dry-clean things 206 00:14:09,149 --> 00:14:10,850 until I'm going to wear them again. 207 00:14:10,984 --> 00:14:12,652 Like, I don't know how you guys are, 208 00:14:12,752 --> 00:14:14,187 but you have clothes to dry-clean 209 00:14:14,321 --> 00:14:16,523 and you kind of keep them in your closet until you 210 00:14:16,656 --> 00:14:19,159 dry-clean them all together when you need them. 211 00:14:19,259 --> 00:14:21,828 And now I feel like I'm talking about 212 00:14:21,995 --> 00:14:24,831 dry-cleaning too much and the process around dry-cleaning. 213 00:14:24,932 --> 00:14:28,668 Anyway, with that dress... 214 00:14:28,768 --> 00:14:30,337 I was going to wear it again 215 00:14:30,503 --> 00:14:32,672 and when I told Linda that, 216 00:14:32,772 --> 00:14:35,008 she told me I looked heavy in it. 217 00:14:36,176 --> 00:14:38,678 Um, so I-I never ended up wearing it again. 218 00:14:38,811 --> 00:14:43,383 Ergo I never cleaned it. Does that answer your question? 219 00:14:44,451 --> 00:14:48,355 Ms. Lewinsky, did your mother ever discourage 220 00:14:48,455 --> 00:14:50,623 your relationship with the president? 221 00:14:51,791 --> 00:14:52,725 Oh, yes. 222 00:14:52,859 --> 00:14:55,628 Well, then, what kept it going? 223 00:14:57,630 --> 00:14:59,366 I fell in love. 224 00:15:00,367 --> 00:15:01,468 I have a question. 225 00:15:01,568 --> 00:15:03,570 You said you felt you were in 226 00:15:03,703 --> 00:15:05,372 a real relationship. 227 00:15:05,505 --> 00:15:06,873 A real connection. 228 00:15:07,007 --> 00:15:09,809 - Yes. - With this married man. 229 00:15:10,910 --> 00:15:12,412 - Yes. - It's been in the papers 230 00:15:12,545 --> 00:15:14,982 you had a relationship before. 231 00:15:15,082 --> 00:15:17,717 Similar to this, a married man. 232 00:15:17,817 --> 00:15:20,753 The way Kate and Andy Bleiler made it seem on TV, 233 00:15:20,887 --> 00:15:23,490 it's-it's not entirely accurate. 234 00:15:23,590 --> 00:15:25,158 I-If that's the part that you're, um... 235 00:15:25,258 --> 00:15:27,260 The only part I know is that 236 00:15:27,394 --> 00:15:29,896 he was a married man and had a family. 237 00:15:30,030 --> 00:15:31,564 Yes. 238 00:15:31,664 --> 00:15:33,933 Like I know about the president. 239 00:15:35,235 --> 00:15:38,738 We're asked to trust your version of events, 240 00:15:38,838 --> 00:15:41,274 but it seems you arrived in D.C. and sought out 241 00:15:41,408 --> 00:15:45,578 a-an affair based on deception and lies. 242 00:15:46,746 --> 00:15:49,116 Did you not believe that this was wrong? 243 00:15:53,353 --> 00:15:55,122 My intention... 244 00:15:56,623 --> 00:15:59,126 ...when I came to Washington was to start over. 245 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,595 I did not want to have another affair 246 00:16:02,729 --> 00:16:04,631 with a married man because it was horrible. 247 00:16:04,764 --> 00:16:07,034 And I don't know why I did it again. 248 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:10,103 I just know that I did it again. 249 00:16:12,272 --> 00:16:14,774 And I know a lot of... a lot of people think that 250 00:16:14,907 --> 00:16:16,976 that's wrong, and so do I. 251 00:16:17,110 --> 00:16:21,948 I know there's a lot of work I need to do on myself. 252 00:16:23,950 --> 00:16:26,119 I just feel I had to ask the question because 253 00:16:26,253 --> 00:16:27,620 a lot of us are confused. 254 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,456 - I'm not. - No need to be rude. 255 00:16:29,589 --> 00:16:31,291 Oh, it's okay. 256 00:16:31,391 --> 00:16:32,792 In a way, I really, I really appreciate 257 00:16:32,925 --> 00:16:34,294 you asking me where I'm coming from, 258 00:16:34,427 --> 00:16:37,130 'cause most people just assume when it comes to me, so... 259 00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:40,633 Um, I really respect your question 260 00:16:40,767 --> 00:16:42,635 and I-I appreciate what you're saying. 261 00:16:43,636 --> 00:16:44,804 Whatever your name is. 262 00:16:44,971 --> 00:16:46,573 Oh, Ms. Lewinsky... 263 00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:49,309 Can you, can you guys call me Monica? 264 00:16:49,409 --> 00:16:51,010 Are-are they allowed to call me Monica? 265 00:16:51,144 --> 00:16:52,479 If you say so. 266 00:16:54,847 --> 00:16:56,149 Sure. 267 00:16:56,249 --> 00:16:59,152 I'm just 25. Please. 268 00:16:59,252 --> 00:17:03,423 But you'll be Ms. Lewinsky whether you're 25 or 28 or... 269 00:17:03,490 --> 00:17:06,493 - Not when I get married. 270 00:17:06,593 --> 00:17:10,663 Monica, do you still love the president? 271 00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:19,672 The day they held me at the Ritz, 272 00:17:19,772 --> 00:17:23,376 they wanted me to turn on him. 273 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:25,512 I said no. 274 00:17:25,612 --> 00:17:28,515 I-I did not want to do anything to let him get hurt. 275 00:17:28,648 --> 00:17:30,517 And then when this all came out, 276 00:17:30,650 --> 00:17:32,685 the-the people that worked for him, 277 00:17:32,819 --> 00:17:34,621 they trashed me. 278 00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:36,223 They claim that they haven't, 279 00:17:36,356 --> 00:17:39,359 but they call me a stalker. They called me a liar. 280 00:17:39,492 --> 00:17:43,463 They say I'm inappropriate. I mean, you all know. 281 00:17:44,897 --> 00:17:47,200 And then he makes this speech. 282 00:17:48,468 --> 00:17:50,703 And he says... 283 00:17:50,837 --> 00:17:53,039 He makes it seem like... 284 00:17:53,140 --> 00:17:55,242 all that he cares about is how unfair all of this 285 00:17:55,375 --> 00:17:57,410 - has been to him. - Mm. 286 00:17:59,045 --> 00:18:02,315 So to-- sorry-- to answer your question, um... 287 00:18:05,252 --> 00:18:07,220 ...it turns out he's not who I thought he was. 288 00:18:07,354 --> 00:18:09,756 Monica, about that day you just mentioned 289 00:18:09,889 --> 00:18:11,724 when you were approached by Mr. Emmick 290 00:18:11,858 --> 00:18:14,661 and the OIC, can you tell us a little bit about that? 291 00:18:14,761 --> 00:18:16,229 Oh, um... 292 00:18:16,363 --> 00:18:19,166 If I could ask, uh, what areas are you 293 00:18:19,266 --> 00:18:20,667 wanting to get into? 294 00:18:20,767 --> 00:18:23,903 Because we're already tight for time and, uh, 295 00:18:24,036 --> 00:18:25,405 well, you know, there were... 296 00:18:25,538 --> 00:18:27,440 many hours of activity. 297 00:18:27,574 --> 00:18:29,409 Just want to know about that day. 298 00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:33,446 Okay, well, how about we table that for now... 299 00:18:33,580 --> 00:18:36,749 - No, I want to hear about that. - We should be able to hear about that day. 300 00:18:36,849 --> 00:18:38,117 Let her talk. Why not? 301 00:18:38,251 --> 00:18:40,587 Let her talk. 302 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,089 All right, go ahead. 303 00:18:44,424 --> 00:18:46,293 So, you were approached in the food court 304 00:18:46,426 --> 00:18:48,595 at Pentagon City by two FBI agents. 305 00:18:48,761 --> 00:18:50,930 Linda Tripp had lied to get you there. Is that right? 306 00:18:51,030 --> 00:18:52,432 Uh, yes. 307 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:55,302 And then they proceeded to take you up to a hotel room. 308 00:18:55,435 --> 00:18:57,270 Why didn't you ask for your lawyer? 309 00:18:58,605 --> 00:18:59,972 I did. 310 00:19:01,608 --> 00:19:04,110 But they told me I was in trouble and that 311 00:19:04,277 --> 00:19:06,946 I wouldn't be able to help myself with my attorney present, 312 00:19:07,046 --> 00:19:08,948 so I just did what they said. 313 00:19:09,115 --> 00:19:12,118 It was the FBI and I was really scared. 314 00:19:12,219 --> 00:19:14,053 What happened when you got up there? 315 00:19:21,127 --> 00:19:24,397 S-Sorry. 316 00:19:25,465 --> 00:19:28,635 Would it be okay-- uh, can you step out? 317 00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:34,140 Karin can take over from here, right? 318 00:19:34,241 --> 00:19:36,343 Karin can take over. 319 00:19:36,476 --> 00:19:37,810 Karin can stay. 320 00:19:53,926 --> 00:19:55,662 Thank you. 321 00:20:04,003 --> 00:20:07,440 They said if I called my lawyer, I wouldn't be offered immunity. 322 00:20:07,507 --> 00:20:09,842 Did you feel threatened by that? 323 00:20:10,777 --> 00:20:13,179 Did they offer you a chance to call another attorney? 324 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,881 They suggested one. 325 00:20:15,014 --> 00:20:16,849 Did you take them up on that? 326 00:20:16,983 --> 00:20:19,018 - No. - Why not? 327 00:20:19,118 --> 00:20:21,888 - Because I didn't trust them. - Hmm. 328 00:20:22,021 --> 00:20:24,457 It sounds as though they were actively discouraging you 329 00:20:24,557 --> 00:20:26,393 from talking to an attorney. 330 00:20:26,526 --> 00:20:28,361 Well, from talking to Frank Carter. 331 00:20:28,461 --> 00:20:31,298 Yes, Frank Carter, my only attorney. 332 00:20:32,965 --> 00:20:34,701 Are we due for a ten-minute break? 333 00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:36,969 No, ma'am. 334 00:20:49,081 --> 00:20:51,984 It lasted about 12 hours in total. 335 00:20:52,051 --> 00:20:54,821 FEMALE JUROR My God. Wow. 336 00:20:54,921 --> 00:20:57,824 And they told me over and over that I was free 337 00:20:57,924 --> 00:20:59,592 to leave, but I didn't. 338 00:21:02,395 --> 00:21:04,431 I didn't understand because they also said 339 00:21:04,564 --> 00:21:07,066 they were prepared to indict me and I could 340 00:21:07,166 --> 00:21:10,102 spend up to 28 years in prison and that they would 341 00:21:10,236 --> 00:21:14,240 prosecute my mother if I didn't help them, you know? So... 342 00:21:14,341 --> 00:21:17,444 I was, uh, confused and, uh... 343 00:21:17,577 --> 00:21:19,078 Were you angry? 344 00:21:22,248 --> 00:21:25,084 Yes, mostly at myself. 345 00:21:25,184 --> 00:21:27,253 For ending up in this situation. 346 00:21:29,956 --> 00:21:32,792 And for putting the president at risk. 347 00:21:32,925 --> 00:21:34,193 And... 348 00:21:36,363 --> 00:21:40,266 And-and for, uh, doing this to my family. 349 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,870 Monica, they set you in a trap. 350 00:21:43,936 --> 00:21:45,872 - Mm-hmm. - It's what they do. 351 00:21:45,938 --> 00:21:47,940 Monica, is there anything else you'd like to add 352 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,275 to your testimony? 353 00:21:49,376 --> 00:21:51,478 We want to give you the fullest opportunity. 354 00:21:52,479 --> 00:21:54,547 Um... 355 00:21:54,614 --> 00:21:57,049 Uh... 356 00:21:58,951 --> 00:22:03,623 I guess I want to say that no one asked me to lie. 357 00:22:03,790 --> 00:22:06,493 And I was never promised a job for my silence. 358 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,462 Mostly I'm sorry. 359 00:22:10,963 --> 00:22:13,299 I'm really sorry for everything that happened. 360 00:22:17,804 --> 00:22:20,306 - And I hate Linda Tripp. 361 00:22:20,407 --> 00:22:22,008 I know that's right. 362 00:22:22,141 --> 00:22:24,310 Forget her. 363 00:22:24,477 --> 00:22:28,147 - What goes around comes around. It does. 364 00:22:37,857 --> 00:22:39,492 I am going to go in and remove some 365 00:22:39,592 --> 00:22:42,161 extra cartilage and bone right here. 366 00:22:42,261 --> 00:22:44,330 Then I'm going to go ahead and pull the skin 367 00:22:44,431 --> 00:22:46,666 off of the issue so I can chisel that bump down. 368 00:22:46,833 --> 00:22:50,002 Then we fracture it so that we can close the roof, 369 00:22:50,102 --> 00:22:52,004 much the same way you would on a house. 370 00:22:52,171 --> 00:22:53,172 Does that make sense? 371 00:22:53,339 --> 00:22:55,007 Um... 372 00:22:55,107 --> 00:22:56,443 Yeah. 373 00:22:56,509 --> 00:22:59,178 Dr. Loeb does wonderful work. 374 00:22:59,345 --> 00:23:01,013 Oh, thanks. Okay, I'm going to go ahead 375 00:23:01,147 --> 00:23:03,349 and step out and do my final prep. 376 00:23:03,483 --> 00:23:05,284 I'll see you in there. 377 00:23:05,351 --> 00:23:07,119 Okay. 378 00:23:10,790 --> 00:23:13,893 - Where's Steve? - Oh, he didn't want to come. 379 00:23:14,026 --> 00:23:17,964 Is he still in a funk about losing his job? 380 00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:19,866 Gosh, yes, he's... 381 00:23:19,999 --> 00:23:23,870 blaming my case and says the airline fired him because of 382 00:23:23,970 --> 00:23:26,038 pressure from Clinton, but, Susie, 383 00:23:26,172 --> 00:23:29,141 he wouldn't work the hours that they wanted him to. 384 00:23:29,208 --> 00:23:30,910 I think that's all that it is. 385 00:23:31,043 --> 00:23:32,479 Well, did you tell him that? 386 00:23:33,980 --> 00:23:36,048 He won't listen to me. 387 00:23:38,818 --> 00:23:41,087 Hey. You nervous? 388 00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:44,090 I'm just glad that people'll stop making fun 389 00:23:44,223 --> 00:23:45,925 of my big ol' awful nose. 390 00:25:31,764 --> 00:25:35,935 I'm told there is a Russian children's verse that says, 391 00:25:36,002 --> 00:25:39,505 "What do we plant when we plant a new wood? 392 00:25:39,606 --> 00:25:43,509 Boats in which waves can safely be withstood." 393 00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:47,013 In both our nations, music education is that 394 00:25:47,113 --> 00:25:49,348 sturdy boat that lifts us up, 395 00:25:49,481 --> 00:25:53,185 that carries our unique cultural treasures into the future. 396 00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:56,789 And now, it is my honor to introduce to you Bill Clinton, 397 00:25:56,889 --> 00:26:00,226 - president of the United States. 398 00:26:13,072 --> 00:26:15,742 Mr. President, Mr. Bowles said you wanted this list... 399 00:26:15,875 --> 00:26:18,077 I know what it is. Thanks. 400 00:26:26,218 --> 00:26:28,554 Betty, would you ask the first lady to come see me? 401 00:26:28,655 --> 00:26:30,222 Right away, sir. 402 00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:55,514 You wanted to see me? 403 00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:58,017 I wanted to say something. 404 00:27:08,795 --> 00:27:12,098 25 years, you're the one opinion I give a shit about. 405 00:27:13,532 --> 00:27:17,269 Most men of our age, they... they find their wives so dull 406 00:27:17,436 --> 00:27:20,372 they cringe when she talks at dinner. 407 00:27:20,439 --> 00:27:22,709 I pity those men. 408 00:27:22,775 --> 00:27:25,111 They don't have what I do. 409 00:27:29,615 --> 00:27:33,119 I gave in to a disgusting impulse. 410 00:27:33,252 --> 00:27:35,888 Because I didn't know how to walk down the hall 411 00:27:35,955 --> 00:27:38,390 and say to my best friend 412 00:27:38,457 --> 00:27:40,727 that this job is lonely 413 00:27:40,793 --> 00:27:42,962 and I'm worn to the bone... 414 00:27:44,163 --> 00:27:46,565 ...and I'm dead inside half the time. 415 00:27:48,467 --> 00:27:50,136 There's been hell raining down on us 416 00:27:50,236 --> 00:27:52,638 from the day we walked into this place. 417 00:27:52,739 --> 00:27:54,974 You know, every move we make-- the right, 418 00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:57,309 the press, they seize, attack and drag us 419 00:27:57,409 --> 00:27:59,979 through the streets over nothing. 420 00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,649 And I know it's stupid, but when Newt shuts down the government, 421 00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:06,152 and Starr has slithered into our lives 422 00:28:06,252 --> 00:28:08,988 to look for malfeasance in every line of every receipt 423 00:28:09,155 --> 00:28:11,157 of every piddly thing we've ever bought, 424 00:28:11,257 --> 00:28:13,826 I thought I had to be strong for us. 425 00:28:13,993 --> 00:28:16,328 And instead, I fucked it all up. 426 00:28:25,838 --> 00:28:28,174 When it first came out, I was so ashamed I wanted to 427 00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:30,276 crawl in a hole and disappear. 428 00:28:33,179 --> 00:28:35,848 I couldn't bear what I'd done to you and Chelsea. 429 00:28:37,616 --> 00:28:40,686 I couldn't face telling you, I just couldn't. 430 00:28:42,855 --> 00:28:45,457 So I made it worse and I lied. 431 00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:58,304 Everything good in my life comes out of us together. 432 00:29:02,241 --> 00:29:04,811 I don't know who I am without you. 433 00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:09,048 I know you said you didn't care why it happened. 434 00:29:09,181 --> 00:29:11,383 But I wanted you to know. 435 00:29:17,323 --> 00:29:18,590 Is that all? 436 00:29:18,724 --> 00:29:20,259 No. 437 00:29:20,392 --> 00:29:21,894 I love you. 438 00:29:22,929 --> 00:29:24,596 That's all. 439 00:29:42,281 --> 00:29:44,450 - Mom? - Busy. 440 00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:45,852 There's all this stuff in here. 441 00:29:45,952 --> 00:29:47,119 I didn't know that you were arrested. 442 00:29:47,253 --> 00:29:48,754 It was a teen prank. 443 00:29:48,888 --> 00:29:50,923 Some boys put things in my purse as a joke. 444 00:29:51,057 --> 00:29:52,624 Okay, but this part about your dad-- 445 00:29:52,758 --> 00:29:54,626 I mean, you don't talk about him my entire life and I have 446 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,429 no idea why until someone writes an article about it. 447 00:30:09,775 --> 00:30:11,610 Oh, my God. 448 00:30:17,483 --> 00:30:19,451 Jesus Christ. 449 00:30:22,454 --> 00:30:24,623 - Unbelievable. - What? 450 00:30:24,790 --> 00:30:26,458 None of this is what I asked for. 451 00:30:26,558 --> 00:30:29,295 They know what I need to do my job and they... 452 00:30:29,428 --> 00:30:32,464 they send me a completely useless pile of paper. 453 00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:35,734 And look at the shape it's in. 454 00:30:43,009 --> 00:30:44,143 This is a message. 455 00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:47,313 Could just be one of the lazier secretaries. 456 00:30:49,648 --> 00:30:50,983 Bring my purse. 457 00:30:58,657 --> 00:31:01,493 - Oh, my God. - Linda, 458 00:31:01,593 --> 00:31:03,195 I didn't know you were coming in. 459 00:31:03,329 --> 00:31:05,097 I need to see Ken. 460 00:31:13,672 --> 00:31:16,175 - Excuse me. - I work here. 461 00:31:16,275 --> 00:31:17,509 Uh... 462 00:31:19,611 --> 00:31:22,514 No, I have to go. Okay, it's just-- Leave us. 463 00:31:22,648 --> 00:31:25,184 Linda, you know you cannot just... 464 00:31:25,284 --> 00:31:26,852 Did you oversee and approve this shipment? 465 00:31:26,986 --> 00:31:28,387 - What? - It's a simple question. 466 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,790 Did you oversee and approve this shipment? 467 00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:34,293 - I can't say that I have any... - Because I asked for the basic materials 468 00:31:34,393 --> 00:31:36,895 I need to do my job and what I got 469 00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:39,631 was random printed email traffic. 470 00:31:39,731 --> 00:31:43,635 Some JCOC participant list thrown violently into a box. 471 00:31:43,735 --> 00:31:46,372 - Linda. - This is chilling. 472 00:31:46,505 --> 00:31:50,076 This is veiled hostility from my colleagues, 473 00:31:50,209 --> 00:31:51,410 simply because I'm a cooperating witness 474 00:31:51,543 --> 00:31:52,979 in a federal investigation. 475 00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:54,813 I'm sure it was just an honest mistake. 476 00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:57,483 - We are past that, Ken. - Listen. 477 00:31:57,549 --> 00:31:59,551 Just write down exactly what you need 478 00:31:59,651 --> 00:32:01,920 - and then we... - What I need 479 00:32:02,054 --> 00:32:05,257 is to come here like normal and do my work. 480 00:32:05,391 --> 00:32:07,593 And I do not doubt that you'll be able to do that soon, 481 00:32:07,726 --> 00:32:08,660 and that things will settle down, 482 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,896 but DOD just opened this investigation 483 00:32:10,997 --> 00:32:12,231 - and until we... - What? 484 00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:14,600 What investigation? 485 00:32:18,604 --> 00:32:20,239 They'll be contacting you. 486 00:32:20,372 --> 00:32:21,740 When you were hired, 487 00:32:21,873 --> 00:32:26,078 you affirmed on your DD 398 that you had never been arrested. 488 00:32:26,212 --> 00:32:27,579 Now, The New Yorker has come out... 489 00:32:27,713 --> 00:32:29,081 It was a teen prank! 490 00:32:29,215 --> 00:32:31,283 - Linda... - On me! 491 00:32:33,285 --> 00:32:34,753 The charges were dropped. 492 00:32:34,886 --> 00:32:38,290 Linda, you cannot lie to the Department of Defense 493 00:32:38,424 --> 00:32:40,126 on a security clearance form. 494 00:32:40,259 --> 00:32:42,528 That is a serious crime. 495 00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:45,097 I see. 496 00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:48,434 I see now. 497 00:32:49,435 --> 00:32:50,602 You see what? 498 00:32:50,736 --> 00:32:53,439 They're really coming after me. 499 00:32:53,539 --> 00:32:55,607 Okay, well... 500 00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:13,292 Good afternoon, ma'am. I'm Special Agent Irons 501 00:33:13,425 --> 00:33:15,127 with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. 502 00:33:15,294 --> 00:33:16,962 This is Special Agent Fallon. 503 00:33:17,063 --> 00:33:19,298 Do you have a moment to speak with us? 504 00:33:23,969 --> 00:33:25,304 Thank you, ma'am. 505 00:33:25,404 --> 00:33:26,805 We're detailed with the Office 506 00:33:26,905 --> 00:33:28,807 of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr. 507 00:33:28,907 --> 00:33:30,809 Perhaps you've seen Judge Starr on the news. 508 00:33:30,909 --> 00:33:33,512 Well, he's finishing up his investigation, 509 00:33:33,645 --> 00:33:35,481 preparing to make a report to Congress. 510 00:33:35,581 --> 00:33:37,483 We're just here following up on some threads. 511 00:33:37,649 --> 00:33:40,186 Ma'am, as you may know, the president and others 512 00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:42,688 are in legal peril because of false affidavits 513 00:33:42,821 --> 00:33:44,490 filed in the Paula Jones lawsuit. 514 00:33:44,656 --> 00:33:46,858 We're just dotting our i's, Ms. Broaddrick. You understand. 515 00:33:46,992 --> 00:33:50,329 Now, here is your Jones affidavit. 516 00:33:50,496 --> 00:33:52,498 You swore this a few months back. 517 00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:54,500 Here, you state that President Bill Clinton 518 00:33:54,666 --> 00:33:57,669 never made any unwanted sexual advances toward you. 519 00:33:57,769 --> 00:34:01,273 Ma'am, were you being truthful when you signed your name 520 00:34:01,340 --> 00:34:03,008 to this statement? 521 00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:18,224 I don't... 522 00:34:18,357 --> 00:34:19,858 I don't get it. 523 00:34:21,193 --> 00:34:23,129 Okay. Thank you. Bye. 524 00:34:24,130 --> 00:34:26,232 How was your audition? 525 00:34:26,365 --> 00:34:28,134 It sucked. 526 00:34:28,234 --> 00:34:32,371 - Who was that? - The lawyers. They said... 527 00:34:33,805 --> 00:34:35,574 ...the judge did a summary judgment. 528 00:34:35,707 --> 00:34:38,210 Mm. What is that? 529 00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:40,312 It's... it's bad. 530 00:34:40,379 --> 00:34:44,216 It means that she threw out the case. 531 00:34:45,317 --> 00:34:46,885 The Supreme Court said you had a case. 532 00:34:47,018 --> 00:34:50,088 But now the judge says I don't, so I... 533 00:34:50,222 --> 00:34:51,823 I guess it's over. 534 00:34:51,923 --> 00:34:55,327 What? What-what do we get? How much money we get? 535 00:34:55,427 --> 00:34:57,763 Well, that's what I'm saying. Um... 536 00:34:57,896 --> 00:35:00,266 It's nothing. We get nothing. 537 00:35:00,399 --> 00:35:01,900 - The fuck?! - I know. 538 00:35:02,033 --> 00:35:04,102 - I know, I need to call Susie. - Oh, yeah, great idea. 539 00:35:04,236 --> 00:35:06,272 Smart. She always makes things better. 540 00:35:06,405 --> 00:35:08,607 - Steve, don't. - No, no, we need to go back 541 00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:09,775 and we need to take Clinton's deal. 542 00:35:09,908 --> 00:35:11,076 I wanted that money. 543 00:35:11,210 --> 00:35:14,913 What? No, no, but you and Susie 544 00:35:15,013 --> 00:35:17,082 told me that I shouldn't take it, so... 545 00:35:17,216 --> 00:35:20,452 I don't wanna hear your fucking voice. 546 00:35:20,586 --> 00:35:22,588 Wait, but that is not fair because I-- gosh, 547 00:35:22,721 --> 00:35:25,591 I only ever started doing this 'cause you wanted me to. 548 00:35:25,691 --> 00:35:28,427 I-I did... I did all this for you. 549 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,129 You sound pretty stupid right now with your face 550 00:35:31,263 --> 00:35:33,432 all broken from a nose job. 551 00:35:33,532 --> 00:35:36,101 Because I got a bad nose, 552 00:35:36,202 --> 00:35:38,304 which I didn't even know I had 553 00:35:38,437 --> 00:35:40,939 until you made me do this and be on TV 554 00:35:41,106 --> 00:35:44,443 and people laughed at me, but... 555 00:35:44,543 --> 00:35:47,112 but I did it, like I always do what you say. 556 00:35:47,246 --> 00:35:48,980 You think I liked moving to California, 557 00:35:49,114 --> 00:35:50,449 where I've never seen so many people 558 00:35:50,549 --> 00:35:52,117 who smile while they hate you 559 00:35:52,251 --> 00:35:53,952 and it makes my skin fucking crawl 560 00:35:54,085 --> 00:35:56,288 and it's sunny all day and it's... 561 00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:58,123 You think it'll be better if we move home, 562 00:35:58,224 --> 00:36:00,792 where everyone knows exactly who you are and what you did? 563 00:36:00,959 --> 00:36:02,628 What do you mean, "what I did"? 564 00:36:06,298 --> 00:36:07,799 What do you mean? 565 00:36:10,135 --> 00:36:13,639 Say it. Say it, Steve. 566 00:36:16,842 --> 00:36:18,644 You think I did it. 567 00:36:18,744 --> 00:36:21,647 You think I went up there and I gave him a blow job. 568 00:36:25,351 --> 00:36:27,819 Yeah, okay, okay. 569 00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:32,491 I can take this from Jay Leno 570 00:36:32,591 --> 00:36:37,028 and people laughing at me at Vons, but... 571 00:36:37,162 --> 00:36:38,997 from you? 572 00:36:39,097 --> 00:36:40,999 You're supposed to believe me! 573 00:36:41,099 --> 00:36:45,170 We are fighting to show people that he did me wrong! 574 00:36:45,337 --> 00:36:47,839 And... 575 00:36:47,939 --> 00:36:49,841 And in reality, all-all this is-- 576 00:36:49,941 --> 00:36:52,344 all the press conferences and all the magazines 577 00:36:52,478 --> 00:36:54,346 and-and the TV shows 578 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,449 and the lawyers and more lawyers and more lawyers-- 579 00:36:57,549 --> 00:37:01,287 it's just me trying to get you to believe me! 580 00:37:01,353 --> 00:37:06,525 Which we both know you never did, so you know what? 581 00:37:06,658 --> 00:37:09,628 If you want to say I'm stupid, well, fuck you! 582 00:37:09,695 --> 00:37:12,298 But most of all, if I'm stupid on one thing, 583 00:37:12,364 --> 00:37:13,865 it was believing that you were any more 584 00:37:13,999 --> 00:37:17,303 than a chickenshit asshole who cared about me at all! 585 00:37:29,481 --> 00:37:32,050 Oh, you think I'm gonna ask you to stay?! 586 00:37:39,558 --> 00:37:41,893 Okay, it's pretty simple. 587 00:37:41,993 --> 00:37:44,262 You listen to all of these tapes. After each one, 588 00:37:44,396 --> 00:37:46,598 you sign the tape, as well as sign 589 00:37:46,732 --> 00:37:47,933 and date those documents, 590 00:37:48,066 --> 00:37:51,236 confirming that the voices are you and Linda Tripp. 591 00:37:51,337 --> 00:37:52,738 I have to listen to all of these? 592 00:37:52,871 --> 00:37:54,573 They're all evidence. 593 00:37:54,673 --> 00:37:56,742 Karin here will sit in with you. 594 00:37:56,842 --> 00:37:58,944 I would, but I gotta get to the courthouse. 595 00:37:59,077 --> 00:38:01,347 What's happening at the courthouse? 596 00:38:05,584 --> 00:38:08,086 Do you, Linda R. Tripp, swear to tell the truth, 597 00:38:08,219 --> 00:38:10,789 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 598 00:38:10,922 --> 00:38:12,290 I do. 599 00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:17,929 You ready? 600 00:38:21,533 --> 00:38:23,935 Hi. Hi. 601 00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:26,438 How are you? 602 00:38:28,106 --> 00:38:31,443 Uh, now, with Mr. Wisenberg's assistance, 603 00:38:31,543 --> 00:38:33,278 I'd like to read to you 604 00:38:33,445 --> 00:38:36,782 what the grand jury has come to know as Tape 11. 605 00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:40,886 You have a, uh, transcript there. 606 00:38:40,952 --> 00:38:42,654 Okay. 607 00:38:44,623 --> 00:38:46,792 "Linda, I got the creep a tie. 608 00:38:46,958 --> 00:38:48,960 It was 20 bucks at Marshalls." 609 00:38:49,127 --> 00:38:50,962 "Oh, good, who makes it?" 610 00:38:51,129 --> 00:38:53,164 "Calvin Klein. It's gorgeous, Linda." 611 00:38:53,298 --> 00:38:55,467 "Yeah, Marshalls generally, 612 00:38:55,601 --> 00:38:57,503 every now and then, you can hit." 613 00:38:57,636 --> 00:39:00,639 "It's really different from all the other ones I've given him. 614 00:39:00,772 --> 00:39:02,641 "I'm putting a note with it. 615 00:39:02,741 --> 00:39:04,075 I wrote such a funny card to him." 616 00:39:04,142 --> 00:39:05,477 Linda Tripp laughs. 617 00:39:05,577 --> 00:39:06,812 I said, "This tie will 618 00:39:06,978 --> 00:39:09,180 "look good with either a taupe or navy suit 619 00:39:09,314 --> 00:39:10,682 "and a white or a light blue shirt. 620 00:39:10,816 --> 00:39:13,419 -That is, if you like it." Mm-hmm. 621 00:39:13,485 --> 00:39:15,020 "And then do you know what I wrote? 622 00:39:15,153 --> 00:39:18,990 "I said, 'And just think, now you can pay homage to me 623 00:39:19,157 --> 00:39:22,260 "if you want by having a work week in which you 624 00:39:22,327 --> 00:39:24,095 wear one of my ties every day.'" 625 00:39:24,162 --> 00:39:25,431 Linda Tripp laughs. 626 00:39:25,497 --> 00:39:27,365 Ms. Lewinsky laughs. 627 00:39:27,499 --> 00:39:29,435 'Cause this is the fifth one, right? 628 00:39:29,501 --> 00:39:31,269 You have to give him one for the weekend days, too. 629 00:39:31,336 --> 00:39:34,673 "That's what I want. That's my fantasy. 630 00:39:34,773 --> 00:39:38,343 To have the creep wear one of my ties every day." 631 00:39:39,344 --> 00:39:43,214 Um, Ms. Tripp, who was the creep? 632 00:39:47,018 --> 00:39:49,455 The president of the United States. 633 00:39:49,521 --> 00:39:53,024 Was this typical of the sort of subject 634 00:39:53,124 --> 00:39:54,860 you and Monica Lewinsky would discuss? 635 00:39:54,993 --> 00:39:57,896 Yes, we almost never talked about anything 636 00:39:58,029 --> 00:40:00,298 aside from the president. 637 00:40:00,365 --> 00:40:02,868 She shared a lot of intimate details with you, did she not? 638 00:40:05,036 --> 00:40:06,304 She did. 639 00:40:06,371 --> 00:40:07,573 MONICA I was upset before, 640 00:40:07,706 --> 00:40:09,541 but not like I am now. 641 00:40:09,641 --> 00:40:11,042 Oh, man. 642 00:40:11,142 --> 00:40:12,978 It's too much for one person. 643 00:40:13,078 --> 00:40:15,481 Oh, it is too much for one person. 644 00:40:15,581 --> 00:40:16,548 Yes, it is. 645 00:40:16,682 --> 00:40:19,250 Moving into November 1997. 646 00:40:19,384 --> 00:40:23,421 Is it fair to say that Ms. Lewinsky was increasingly 647 00:40:23,555 --> 00:40:25,757 distraught on her calls with you? 648 00:40:25,891 --> 00:40:29,595 Yes, she was obsessed with the president's lack of contact. 649 00:40:29,728 --> 00:40:33,431 And what typically would happen when she tried to make contact? 650 00:40:33,565 --> 00:40:36,502 She would call Betty Currie and then call me 651 00:40:36,602 --> 00:40:37,936 to tell me she called Betty. 652 00:40:38,069 --> 00:40:39,404 And then, if Betty hadn't gotten back to her 653 00:40:39,505 --> 00:40:41,507 within an hour, she would get angry 654 00:40:41,607 --> 00:40:44,009 and call Betty again, then call me again. 655 00:40:44,109 --> 00:40:47,445 Crescendoing to some sort of nuclear outburst. 656 00:40:47,579 --> 00:40:49,280 Okay, now I'd like to move... 657 00:40:49,414 --> 00:40:52,017 Sorry, can I ask a question? 658 00:40:55,921 --> 00:40:58,256 Did you want Monica to stop calling you? 659 00:40:58,389 --> 00:41:00,458 Yes. 660 00:41:00,592 --> 00:41:04,462 Her behavior became volatile. Very erratic. 661 00:41:04,596 --> 00:41:08,433 So why did you not just say, "Please stop calling me"? 662 00:41:08,534 --> 00:41:11,269 That's what my kid said. 663 00:41:11,402 --> 00:41:12,270 So why didn't you? 664 00:41:12,437 --> 00:41:15,440 Well, at a, at a certain point, 665 00:41:15,541 --> 00:41:16,875 you can't unring a bell. 666 00:41:16,942 --> 00:41:19,444 You talk like this was a grave situation 667 00:41:19,545 --> 00:41:22,213 and harmful for Monica, right? 668 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,783 - Yes, very. - But earlier 669 00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:26,618 we heard you encouraging her 670 00:41:26,718 --> 00:41:28,887 to buy him a tie for each day of the week. 671 00:41:28,954 --> 00:41:31,557 Well, that... 672 00:41:31,623 --> 00:41:32,958 I was joking. 673 00:41:33,124 --> 00:41:36,227 And when Monica said, "I got the creep a tie. 674 00:41:36,294 --> 00:41:38,630 It was 20 bucks at Marshalls," 675 00:41:38,797 --> 00:41:40,732 you replied, "Oh, good." 676 00:41:40,799 --> 00:41:42,568 Well, I was being... 677 00:41:43,735 --> 00:41:45,336 That was more of a pro-Marshalls. 678 00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:49,407 So, was this a serious situation or was this a joking matter? 679 00:41:49,474 --> 00:41:51,309 That's one moment out of context. 680 00:41:51,476 --> 00:41:53,812 Or were you just trying to keep her talking? 681 00:41:53,912 --> 00:41:56,347 Because by then you were taping. 682 00:41:57,683 --> 00:41:59,150 I prefer to call it documenting. 683 00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:00,318 Why did you tape her? 684 00:42:00,485 --> 00:42:02,187 We'll get to that in just a little bit. 685 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,656 I documented our phone calls because I knew 686 00:42:04,756 --> 00:42:07,025 - I needed evidence. - Evidence for what? 687 00:42:08,493 --> 00:42:10,929 Well, for-- so when I came forward... 688 00:42:10,996 --> 00:42:12,931 - But it was a private matter. - I don't think you comprehend... 689 00:42:12,998 --> 00:42:14,666 It was between Monica and the president. 690 00:42:14,833 --> 00:42:15,834 No one needed to know. 691 00:42:15,934 --> 00:42:18,503 Actually, this was a very young staffer 692 00:42:18,604 --> 00:42:21,006 in a workplace with the most senior official 693 00:42:21,106 --> 00:42:22,841 in that workplace making choices 694 00:42:22,941 --> 00:42:25,677 that were causing her severe distress. 695 00:42:25,844 --> 00:42:28,013 She told me on more than one occasion 696 00:42:28,146 --> 00:42:29,447 she wanted to kill herself. 697 00:42:29,547 --> 00:42:33,351 And still, the president of the United States 698 00:42:33,451 --> 00:42:35,286 used her to meet his needs. 699 00:42:35,353 --> 00:42:39,457 He had total control. His behavior was unconscionable. 700 00:42:42,460 --> 00:42:44,529 It was an abuse of power. 701 00:42:44,663 --> 00:42:46,698 - Mrs. Tripp... - I had to end it. 702 00:42:46,832 --> 00:42:48,466 I had to end it. 703 00:42:53,905 --> 00:42:57,643 Mrs. Tripp, when you chose to... 704 00:42:57,743 --> 00:43:01,046 begin documenting Monica, 705 00:43:01,179 --> 00:43:04,249 you were under enormous stress, correct? 706 00:43:04,382 --> 00:43:06,985 I was terrified. 707 00:43:07,085 --> 00:43:10,488 I knew if I came forward with no evidence, 708 00:43:10,555 --> 00:43:12,090 they would destroy me. 709 00:43:12,223 --> 00:43:15,060 When you say "they," who are you referring to? 710 00:43:15,193 --> 00:43:17,929 Bill Clinton. 711 00:43:18,063 --> 00:43:20,265 And, uh, Hillary Rodham Clinton. 712 00:43:20,398 --> 00:43:22,233 - Oh, man. 713 00:43:24,502 --> 00:43:27,172 The president's lawyer had already made 714 00:43:27,272 --> 00:43:29,607 a defamatory statement about me in Newsweek. 715 00:43:29,741 --> 00:43:31,743 I was sure I was going to be subpoenaed 716 00:43:31,877 --> 00:43:33,278 in the Paula Jones case. 717 00:43:33,411 --> 00:43:35,413 I felt, if I told the truth under oath, 718 00:43:35,513 --> 00:43:37,582 I would lose my job. 719 00:43:37,716 --> 00:43:39,250 Or worse. 720 00:43:39,350 --> 00:43:42,453 You thought if you told the truth in the Paula Jones case... 721 00:43:42,587 --> 00:43:44,089 I was afraid I wouldn't even get the chance. 722 00:43:44,189 --> 00:43:46,958 Are you-- are you saying you thought you would be killed? 723 00:43:47,092 --> 00:43:48,927 Yes. 724 00:43:49,060 --> 00:43:51,296 - Why? - I have what I consider 725 00:43:51,429 --> 00:43:53,098 well-founded fears 726 00:43:53,198 --> 00:43:55,200 of what this administration is capable of. 727 00:43:55,266 --> 00:43:57,035 Can you give an example? 728 00:43:57,102 --> 00:43:59,938 I have, uh, reason to believe 729 00:44:00,071 --> 00:44:02,140 that the Vince Foster tragedy was not 730 00:44:02,273 --> 00:44:05,276 depicted accurately by members of the administration. 731 00:44:05,410 --> 00:44:08,613 Are you-- are you saying he didn't commit suicide? 732 00:44:08,780 --> 00:44:11,282 We will never know. 733 00:44:11,449 --> 00:44:13,451 Mrs. Tripp, do you have information 734 00:44:13,584 --> 00:44:15,653 about the White House and the death of Vince Foster? 735 00:44:15,787 --> 00:44:18,790 I'll just say this. 736 00:44:18,957 --> 00:44:21,793 The day after that tragedy, 737 00:44:21,927 --> 00:44:25,463 the behavior I saw in the West Wing frightened me. 738 00:44:25,630 --> 00:44:28,499 There was a flurry of activity, boxes 739 00:44:28,633 --> 00:44:30,468 and secrecy behind closed doors. 740 00:44:30,601 --> 00:44:33,138 I was concerned, and I was alarmed. 741 00:44:33,271 --> 00:44:35,974 Because people were meeting behind closed doors? 742 00:44:36,074 --> 00:44:40,145 It was far more ominous than that. 743 00:44:43,348 --> 00:44:46,251 I am telling you, under oath today, 744 00:44:46,317 --> 00:44:48,653 that I felt threatened. 745 00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:52,991 And I was angry. And I resented it. 746 00:44:53,158 --> 00:44:55,994 - And still do. I have a question. 747 00:44:56,161 --> 00:44:58,329 Did you ever think about what would happen 748 00:44:58,496 --> 00:45:00,766 to Monica when all this came out? 749 00:45:03,501 --> 00:45:06,337 All right, call me back, you nut. 750 00:45:06,437 --> 00:45:09,674 Ugh. I will, I will. - Bye. 751 00:45:18,616 --> 00:45:19,851 - Done. - Your attorney 752 00:45:19,985 --> 00:45:21,186 has a car waiting for you out back. 753 00:45:21,286 --> 00:45:22,353 If you want, I can... 754 00:45:22,487 --> 00:45:24,389 I know the way. 755 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,530 I thought, uh, if this became public, 756 00:45:32,663 --> 00:45:35,366 Monica would not be in any sort of danger. 757 00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:37,869 But you said you felt dangers, both personal 758 00:45:37,969 --> 00:45:39,871 and professional, could befall you. 759 00:45:39,971 --> 00:45:42,707 What crossed your mind that would befall Monica? 760 00:45:44,242 --> 00:45:46,377 Uh, what-what would befall her? 761 00:45:46,477 --> 00:45:48,713 Did you have any fears for her? 762 00:45:48,847 --> 00:45:50,715 All these details in the publi. 763 00:45:50,849 --> 00:45:53,551 She was... I-I think I said this. 764 00:45:53,684 --> 00:45:55,486 Uh, she was suicidal. 765 00:45:55,553 --> 00:45:57,055 You're not answering her question. 766 00:45:57,155 --> 00:46:02,427 What Monica was going through was extremely unhealthy. 767 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,595 But you didn't think it would bring her harm? 768 00:46:06,097 --> 00:46:08,099 Well, not compared to... 769 00:46:10,768 --> 00:46:12,737 - No. - Why not? 770 00:46:14,572 --> 00:46:15,673 Uh, pardon? 771 00:46:15,773 --> 00:46:18,509 Why would you not think about her? 772 00:46:21,913 --> 00:46:26,117 I was thinking that she was in a tremendously bad situation. 773 00:46:28,086 --> 00:46:31,756 And do you feel now she's better off because of what you did? 774 00:46:31,890 --> 00:46:34,292 Do you feel her life is better now? 775 00:46:43,634 --> 00:46:46,037 - How'd it go? - Ready, Linda? 776 00:46:47,438 --> 00:46:48,940 You sure? 777 00:46:49,107 --> 00:46:51,042 You don't have to do this right now. 778 00:47:07,125 --> 00:47:08,459 We understand 779 00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:11,062 there is some interest in hearing from Ms. Tripp. 780 00:47:11,129 --> 00:47:13,664 She will not be taking any questions today. 781 00:47:13,798 --> 00:47:17,969 She has, however, agreed to make some brief remarks. 782 00:47:21,973 --> 00:47:25,176 Good afternoon. I'm not a public speaker. 783 00:47:25,310 --> 00:47:27,178 I'm going to have to refer to my notes. 784 00:47:27,312 --> 00:47:28,313 Please bear with me. 785 00:47:33,484 --> 00:47:36,654 I understand that there's been a great deal of speculation 786 00:47:36,754 --> 00:47:40,158 about just who I am and how I got here. 787 00:47:40,258 --> 00:47:42,660 Well, the answer is simple. 788 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,997 I'm you. I'm just like you. 789 00:47:47,165 --> 00:47:50,501 I'm an average American who found herself in a situation 790 00:47:50,601 --> 00:47:52,837 not of her own making. 791 00:47:52,938 --> 00:47:55,840 Because I am just like you, I ask you to imagine how you 792 00:47:55,941 --> 00:47:58,676 would feel if someone you thought was a friend 793 00:47:58,776 --> 00:48:00,611 urged you to commit a felony. 794 00:48:02,013 --> 00:48:04,782 Imagine how you would feel if your boss's attorney 795 00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:07,685 called you a liar in front of the whole country. 796 00:48:08,886 --> 00:48:10,388 And imagine if that boss 797 00:48:10,521 --> 00:48:12,958 was the president of the United States. 798 00:48:16,027 --> 00:48:19,797 Imagine how you would feel if your employer demoted you 799 00:48:19,897 --> 00:48:23,568 and cast you aside, for daring to tell the truth. 800 00:48:27,638 --> 00:48:30,808 Imagine how it would feel to see the pain in your children's eyes 801 00:48:30,875 --> 00:48:33,411 when they hear a seemingly endless barrage 802 00:48:33,544 --> 00:48:35,746 of lies about their mother. 803 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,750 A mother who is not going out to defend herself. 804 00:48:45,590 --> 00:48:48,426 I've been vilified for taking the path of truth. 805 00:48:49,594 --> 00:48:51,596 I've been maligned by people who have chosen 806 00:48:51,729 --> 00:48:53,664 not to tell the truth, 807 00:48:53,764 --> 00:48:57,068 and who know they are not telling the truth. 808 00:48:57,202 --> 00:48:59,004 To cast me in the role of the villain, 809 00:48:59,104 --> 00:49:01,772 they have enlisted legions of paid prevaricators. 810 00:49:01,906 --> 00:49:03,774 Not surprisingly, many from the entertainment industry 811 00:49:03,908 --> 00:49:06,777 have chosen to ridicule me as well. 812 00:49:07,945 --> 00:49:10,615 Going so far as to even make fun of my appearance 813 00:49:10,748 --> 00:49:14,285 in a manner so mean and so cruel that I pray none of you 814 00:49:14,419 --> 00:49:15,853 is ever subjected to it. 815 00:49:17,922 --> 00:49:19,624 Despite all of that, 816 00:49:19,757 --> 00:49:22,793 I bear no malice towards anyone in this case. 817 00:49:31,769 --> 00:49:33,604 I believe in our country. 818 00:49:34,939 --> 00:49:38,109 As I said, I am no different than any of you. 819 00:49:38,243 --> 00:49:42,280 I believe you have the right to tell the truth under oath 820 00:49:42,380 --> 00:49:44,949 without fear of retribution or worse. 821 00:49:47,052 --> 00:49:50,455 I hope that when all the facts are revealed, 822 00:49:50,555 --> 00:49:52,123 you'll understand that it is a right 823 00:49:52,290 --> 00:49:54,559 all of us should be fighting for. 824 00:49:57,295 --> 00:49:58,629 Thank you. 825 00:50:00,898 --> 00:50:02,633 Why did you betray Monica Lewinsky? 826 00:50:03,801 --> 00:50:04,835 We're not taking any questions. 827 00:50:04,969 --> 00:50:07,072 Linda, do you regret taping Monica? 828 00:50:07,138 --> 00:50:08,973 Isn't it true you manipulated her? 829 00:50:09,140 --> 00:50:11,576 Did you do all this for a book deal? 830 00:50:22,153 --> 00:50:23,521 The atmosphere feels very different 831 00:50:23,654 --> 00:50:24,822 -among the party now. Look, I've read 832 00:50:24,922 --> 00:50:26,157 the deposition and it's very clear... 833 00:50:26,257 --> 00:50:27,525 Members of President Clinton's 834 00:50:27,658 --> 00:50:28,826 own party are now wavering in their support, 835 00:50:28,926 --> 00:50:29,827 including my guest, 836 00:50:29,994 --> 00:50:31,529 Congressman Jim Moran. 837 00:50:31,662 --> 00:50:33,831 The fact is he lied to the American people. 838 00:50:33,998 --> 00:50:36,334 That is undoubtedly going to 839 00:50:36,501 --> 00:50:38,936 necessitate impeachment proceedings. 840 00:50:53,184 --> 00:50:57,188 Andrew Johnson-- worst leader this country ever had. 841 00:50:57,288 --> 00:51:00,024 Racist to his core, drunk as hell 842 00:51:00,125 --> 00:51:02,527 the day he took over for Lincoln. 843 00:51:03,961 --> 00:51:07,698 1868 Congress finally impeached his ass. 844 00:51:09,033 --> 00:51:11,869 Only president that's happened to, only one. 845 00:51:13,471 --> 00:51:14,872 Till now. 846 00:51:16,641 --> 00:51:18,876 I hate it when you're like this. 847 00:51:19,009 --> 00:51:22,147 We have not lost anything, not yet. 848 00:51:27,218 --> 00:51:28,886 I'll call Jim Moran. 849 00:51:29,987 --> 00:51:31,656 What'll you say? 850 00:51:31,722 --> 00:51:35,993 I will say that if he thinks he is fighting for me, 851 00:51:36,093 --> 00:51:39,063 then he needs to fight on my side. 852 00:51:39,164 --> 00:51:41,432 And the way I see it, 853 00:51:41,566 --> 00:51:44,235 there are forces that have been trying to take my husband 854 00:51:44,369 --> 00:51:47,104 down his whole life and I don't want them to win. 855 00:51:47,238 --> 00:51:48,939 And I won't let them. 856 00:51:50,175 --> 00:51:52,443 And yes, the right's got the votes, 857 00:51:52,577 --> 00:51:54,179 and I'm sure they will do their worst. 858 00:51:54,279 --> 00:51:55,613 But to state the obvious, 859 00:51:55,746 --> 00:51:57,615 you are not Andrew fucking Johnson. 860 00:51:57,748 --> 00:52:01,419 And the last billion times the GOP has tried to destroy us, 861 00:52:01,552 --> 00:52:03,921 we have wiped the floor with them. 862 00:52:04,054 --> 00:52:05,590 Have you seen the polls? 863 00:52:05,690 --> 00:52:07,592 Every step they take towards this 864 00:52:07,725 --> 00:52:11,696 moronic idea, your approval jumps a point. 865 00:52:11,796 --> 00:52:13,464 Nobody's looking at the polls. 866 00:52:13,598 --> 00:52:15,800 My own party isn't looking at the polls. 867 00:52:15,933 --> 00:52:18,603 They just need permission to forgive you. 868 00:52:18,703 --> 00:52:21,439 Which is something that you can't give them. 869 00:52:24,775 --> 00:52:26,277 But I can. 870 00:52:28,946 --> 00:52:31,115 This is all the FBI interviews? 871 00:52:31,216 --> 00:52:32,983 We're waiting on a few more. 872 00:52:33,117 --> 00:52:34,485 We have a problem. 873 00:52:34,619 --> 00:52:36,120 We need to put Monica back under oath. 874 00:52:36,287 --> 00:52:38,789 - Why? - Our perjury charge rests on the president 875 00:52:38,956 --> 00:52:41,125 claiming that technically he didn't have sex with her because 876 00:52:41,226 --> 00:52:42,893 he never touched her with intent to arouse. 877 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,630 He's lying, but here's hours and hours 878 00:52:45,730 --> 00:52:47,632 of Monica's testimony, and she never once 879 00:52:47,765 --> 00:52:49,234 speaks about all the times 880 00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:51,135 that he touched her with intent to arouse. 881 00:52:51,236 --> 00:52:52,970 It was implied on our chart. 882 00:52:53,137 --> 00:52:56,307 That's weak shit. We need her under oath, in detail, 883 00:52:56,441 --> 00:52:58,243 on all the sex, proving him wrong. 884 00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:59,977 Okay, let's bring her back in. 885 00:53:00,077 --> 00:53:03,981 Gosh, who's going to handle asking her about that? 886 00:53:05,316 --> 00:53:08,486 We are on the record. Monica, you're still under oath. 887 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,490 First, I want to start by asking you a general question. 888 00:53:12,657 --> 00:53:14,525 Did your relationship with President Clinton 889 00:53:14,659 --> 00:53:16,261 start with sex and then evolve into 890 00:53:16,327 --> 00:53:17,995 a friendship or the other way around? 891 00:53:19,664 --> 00:53:21,999 It started with a physical attraction 892 00:53:22,099 --> 00:53:24,669 which led to a sexual relationship. 893 00:53:24,769 --> 00:53:26,837 And then the emotional and... 894 00:53:26,937 --> 00:53:29,440 friendship aspects of that relationship developed 895 00:53:29,507 --> 00:53:32,677 after the beginning of the sexual relationship. 896 00:53:33,844 --> 00:53:35,846 Why don't we start with the first incident 897 00:53:36,013 --> 00:53:38,115 November 15, 1995, 898 00:53:38,182 --> 00:53:40,184 which you've already testified some about. 899 00:53:40,285 --> 00:53:42,353 - Okay. - Can you tell me 900 00:53:42,487 --> 00:53:44,121 how the physical intimacy between you two 901 00:53:44,221 --> 00:53:45,456 began that night? 902 00:53:48,459 --> 00:53:49,860 Um... 903 00:53:51,128 --> 00:53:53,964 Well, we were, uh... 904 00:53:54,031 --> 00:53:56,701 in an office alone. 905 00:53:56,801 --> 00:53:58,869 Kissing, you know? 906 00:54:00,371 --> 00:54:03,374 And then what happened after the kissing started? 907 00:54:05,643 --> 00:54:11,882 Um, he started untucking my shirt. 908 00:54:11,982 --> 00:54:13,150 And then what? 909 00:54:16,554 --> 00:54:19,056 I'm sorry. For legal reasons, 910 00:54:19,189 --> 00:54:22,226 I need to get specifically what happened. 911 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,928 Each physical interaction. 912 00:54:25,496 --> 00:54:26,897 Okay. 913 00:54:27,898 --> 00:54:30,234 Um... 914 00:54:30,368 --> 00:54:36,073 So, he took off my sweater and, you know... 915 00:54:36,206 --> 00:54:38,175 Did he touch your breasts? 916 00:54:39,610 --> 00:54:42,513 - Yes. - With your bra on or off? 917 00:54:46,083 --> 00:54:48,419 I... 918 00:54:48,519 --> 00:54:52,790 I-I... I don't remember if I unhooked my bra 919 00:54:52,923 --> 00:54:55,960 or if he, um... 920 00:54:59,096 --> 00:55:01,966 ...lifted my... 921 00:55:02,099 --> 00:55:04,635 bra up over-- This is embarrassing. 922 00:55:04,769 --> 00:55:06,103 I know. 923 00:55:06,203 --> 00:55:07,605 I'm sorry. 924 00:55:13,110 --> 00:55:14,545 But he... 925 00:55:15,780 --> 00:55:18,483 He lifted the bra over your breasts. 926 00:55:18,616 --> 00:55:21,986 Um... sometimes... 927 00:55:25,623 --> 00:55:31,962 ...he would lift my-my breasts out of my bra. God. 928 00:55:32,129 --> 00:55:34,465 Did he touch your breasts with his hands? 929 00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:35,633 Yes. 930 00:55:35,766 --> 00:55:37,635 Did he touch your breasts with his mouth? 931 00:55:38,969 --> 00:55:41,138 - Yes. - Did he touch your genital area? 932 00:55:45,743 --> 00:55:49,146 Uh, I-I know this is... 933 00:55:49,246 --> 00:55:51,649 It's just, um, thinking about other people reading this... 934 00:55:51,749 --> 00:55:54,652 I understand, but I've been instructed 935 00:55:54,819 --> 00:55:56,153 to question you on these details. 936 00:55:56,253 --> 00:55:57,588 - And I have to answer? - Pursuant to the agreement 937 00:55:57,655 --> 00:55:59,590 you have with this office, yes. 938 00:55:59,657 --> 00:56:01,158 Do you understand? 939 00:56:02,493 --> 00:56:04,328 - Yes. - Okay. 940 00:56:05,830 --> 00:56:08,032 Did he touch your genitals on this date? 941 00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:11,168 Yes. 942 00:56:11,268 --> 00:56:13,838 Can you describe exactly how that happened? 943 00:56:16,674 --> 00:56:18,042 He, um... 944 00:56:27,351 --> 00:56:29,454 The president... 945 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,057 uh, got a call, so we moved into a back office. 946 00:56:35,626 --> 00:56:37,462 While he was on the phone... 947 00:56:40,531 --> 00:56:43,968 ...he put his hand, uh, down my pants and he... 948 00:56:44,034 --> 00:56:46,070 stimulated that area. 949 00:56:46,203 --> 00:56:48,372 Directly on your skin or through underwear? 950 00:56:50,975 --> 00:56:54,044 It was, um, touching... 951 00:56:54,144 --> 00:56:57,214 through my underwear at first and then he 952 00:56:57,347 --> 00:56:59,650 placed his hand under my underwear. 953 00:56:59,717 --> 00:57:01,886 And did he bring you to orgasm? 954 00:57:05,723 --> 00:57:07,892 Yes. - Okay. 955 00:57:09,594 --> 00:57:12,597 On this night, did you perform oral sex on the president? 956 00:57:12,730 --> 00:57:14,398 Yes. 957 00:57:16,266 --> 00:57:17,602 Who initiated that? 958 00:57:17,735 --> 00:57:19,403 I did. 959 00:57:20,605 --> 00:57:23,941 Did the president say anything to you during this? 960 00:57:25,576 --> 00:57:26,911 No. 961 00:57:29,747 --> 00:57:31,115 He was on the phone. 962 00:57:34,752 --> 00:57:36,621 Would you like a break? 963 00:57:45,530 --> 00:57:48,365 Moving to March 31, 1996, 964 00:57:48,432 --> 00:57:50,434 did the president stimulate your genitals? 965 00:57:50,535 --> 00:57:51,936 Yes. 966 00:57:54,104 --> 00:57:56,373 Was that through clothing? 967 00:57:58,208 --> 00:57:59,944 Not through clothing. 968 00:58:00,077 --> 00:58:03,380 And he stimulated your genitals with his hands? 969 00:58:03,447 --> 00:58:06,784 Yes. And... 970 00:58:09,386 --> 00:58:10,788 And? 971 00:58:12,957 --> 00:58:15,325 He used, um... 972 00:58:17,294 --> 00:58:19,129 He had a cigar. 973 00:58:22,967 --> 00:58:26,303 I'm sorry, could you speak just a little louder for the tape? 974 00:58:26,403 --> 00:58:27,805 Okay, sorry. 975 00:58:27,905 --> 00:58:28,973 He had a cigar. 976 00:58:29,073 --> 00:58:31,308 Did he insert the cigar into your vagina? 977 00:58:34,745 --> 00:58:36,647 I'm sorry, I'm gonna need you to answer verbally. 978 00:58:36,747 --> 00:58:37,815 Yes. 979 00:58:39,984 --> 00:58:42,152 Whose idea, um...? 980 00:58:43,754 --> 00:58:45,155 How did that...? 981 00:58:46,490 --> 00:58:50,160 Um, we were talking, um, 982 00:58:50,260 --> 00:58:53,664 in the Oval Office... 983 00:58:53,764 --> 00:58:57,334 one day and he was, 984 00:58:57,501 --> 00:59:00,170 uh, he-he was chewing on a... 985 00:59:00,337 --> 00:59:04,842 cigar and he looked at it in a sort of... 986 00:59:07,044 --> 00:59:10,781 ...naughty way and I said, 987 00:59:10,848 --> 00:59:15,686 "We can do that sometime." So we did. 988 00:59:16,787 --> 00:59:19,223 Did you understand it to be arousing? 989 00:59:20,858 --> 00:59:22,893 - Yes. - Then what happened? 990 00:59:33,370 --> 00:59:35,072 Um... 991 00:59:36,306 --> 00:59:40,711 He put it in his mouth. He said it tasted good. 992 00:59:44,214 --> 00:59:46,651 Okay, I have just one last question. 993 00:59:46,751 --> 00:59:48,385 It goes to your motivation. 994 00:59:50,054 --> 00:59:53,223 Do you for any reason want to hurt the president? 995 00:59:55,225 --> 00:59:57,762 No, that's the last thing I want. 996 00:59:57,895 --> 00:59:59,730 All right. 997 00:59:59,864 --> 01:00:03,400 Thank you. You did really well, Monica. 998 01:00:04,935 --> 01:00:07,337 That's all I have. I have to run this in. 999 01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:10,074 Pam can help you see yourself out. 1000 01:00:11,408 --> 01:00:13,577 Is it a boy or a girl? 1001 01:00:16,113 --> 01:00:19,917 Uh... It's a boy. 1002 01:00:20,017 --> 01:00:21,919 Mazel tov. 1003 01:00:23,353 --> 01:00:25,455 For your sake, I hope this is goodbye. 1004 01:00:41,605 --> 01:00:46,110 I want the full report ready for Congress by Labor Day. 1005 01:00:46,243 --> 01:00:48,045 Judge, that's two weeks from now. 1006 01:00:48,112 --> 01:00:49,947 Any closer to the election and it will 1007 01:00:50,114 --> 01:00:52,116 appear like a political hit on the Democrats. 1008 01:00:52,216 --> 01:00:54,618 Brett, please make sure everyone has their drafts in 1009 01:00:54,719 --> 01:00:55,953 by September 4th. 1010 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,323 - Got it. - Our FBI guys just sent this 302. 1011 01:00:59,456 --> 01:01:01,158 It's a new interview with Jane Doe 5. 1012 01:01:01,291 --> 01:01:03,627 Real name Juanita Broaddrick. She's changing her statement. 1013 01:01:03,794 --> 01:01:06,296 - What she's saying? - That Bill Clinton raped her. 1014 01:01:06,463 --> 01:01:09,299 This is that same woman who, back in January, 1015 01:01:09,399 --> 01:01:11,468 signed an affidavit saying nothing ever happened. 1016 01:01:11,635 --> 01:01:12,803 Right. Now she says that was a lie. 1017 01:01:12,970 --> 01:01:15,172 Why is she lying? Was she coerced by the Clintons? 1018 01:01:15,305 --> 01:01:17,975 - No. - Was she offered something? 1019 01:01:18,075 --> 01:01:20,477 No, no quid pro quo. She's saying she lied at first 1020 01:01:20,644 --> 01:01:22,146 because she didn't want to be involved. 1021 01:01:22,246 --> 01:01:24,815 She's had no contact with Clinton people since the '80s. 1022 01:01:24,915 --> 01:01:25,983 Well, if he didn't pressure her, 1023 01:01:26,083 --> 01:01:27,484 then it doesn't go to his criminality. 1024 01:01:27,584 --> 01:01:30,154 Except for the raping. 1025 01:01:30,254 --> 01:01:31,655 H-He raped her. 1026 01:01:31,822 --> 01:01:34,491 We can't be cluttering the report with all 1027 01:01:34,591 --> 01:01:37,161 the various sexual experiences from his past. 1028 01:01:37,327 --> 01:01:39,363 Yeah, there's only so much ink in the world, Sol. 1029 01:01:39,496 --> 01:01:44,668 I just... Judge, read the 302, read what he did. 1030 01:01:47,938 --> 01:01:50,674 Perjury and obstruction of justice. 1031 01:01:50,841 --> 01:01:52,843 Those are our grounds for impeachment, 1032 01:01:53,010 --> 01:01:55,012 not some lady who changes her mind 1033 01:01:55,179 --> 01:01:56,346 about what happened one night. 1034 01:01:56,513 --> 01:01:58,849 But... 1035 01:02:01,285 --> 01:02:04,855 Okay. So, should we not put her in the report at all? 1036 01:02:04,955 --> 01:02:07,024 It can be an appendix if you want. 1037 01:02:07,124 --> 01:02:08,793 Put her in a footnote. 1038 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,695 Okay. 1039 01:04:03,307 --> 01:04:06,143 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH 73087

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