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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:23,179 --> 00:00:24,714 No, rotate. 2 00:00:30,353 --> 00:00:32,021 You have to rotate it. 3 00:00:36,392 --> 00:00:38,461 Jesus Christ. May I? 4 00:00:59,582 --> 00:01:01,984 Thank you. 5 00:01:13,896 --> 00:01:15,565 That's Linda Tripp. 6 00:01:32,948 --> 00:01:34,950 Morning, Ron. 7 00:01:43,293 --> 00:01:45,961 Hello, Ken, it's Linda Tripp. 8 00:01:46,095 --> 00:01:49,098 Again. It was alarming enough to be asked to write a how-to 9 00:01:49,232 --> 00:01:51,701 manual for my own job, but it has now been nearly 10 00:01:51,801 --> 00:01:54,304 one month since I requested the materials I need to even 11 00:01:54,437 --> 00:01:55,805 attempt to start on this, 12 00:01:55,938 --> 00:01:57,440 and-and still I've received nothing. 13 00:02:08,318 --> 00:02:09,285 At a minimum, 14 00:02:09,452 --> 00:02:11,221 I will need my correspondence books 15 00:02:11,287 --> 00:02:15,958 and all volumes of the archival histories of JCOC 59 and 60. 16 00:02:19,562 --> 00:02:22,632 If anyone cast the slightest glance at my cubicle, 17 00:02:22,798 --> 00:02:25,468 they would easily find all of these on my desk there. 18 00:02:29,572 --> 00:02:32,074 Lucianne, have you had any occasion to 19 00:02:32,141 --> 00:02:33,643 talk to Linda recently? 20 00:02:33,776 --> 00:02:36,812 I haven't talked to Linda since, the day 21 00:02:36,912 --> 00:02:38,981 she wore the wire to the Ritz-Carlton Hotel. 22 00:02:39,114 --> 00:02:41,083 Judge Starr asked her not to be in touch. 23 00:02:41,150 --> 00:02:43,653 - With anyone? - Right, with anyone. 24 00:02:43,753 --> 00:02:44,987 Are you surprised that only one 25 00:02:45,154 --> 00:02:47,590 out of ten Americans view her favorably? 26 00:02:47,657 --> 00:02:49,659 No, not with how the White House 27 00:02:49,759 --> 00:02:51,994 and sundry sympathetic people have 28 00:02:52,094 --> 00:02:54,764 framed the discussion of Linda in such a negative way. 29 00:02:54,830 --> 00:02:57,267 Do you think it also might be that people don't 30 00:02:57,333 --> 00:02:59,001 like people who tape their friends? 31 00:03:13,516 --> 00:03:14,850 Rotate. 32 00:03:29,799 --> 00:03:31,133 - Hello. - Hi. 33 00:03:31,233 --> 00:03:33,703 This is all that there was. Nothing from your office... 34 00:03:40,476 --> 00:03:42,812 And I... I checked the machine. 35 00:03:42,912 --> 00:03:44,547 This lady named Jane from The New Yorker, 36 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,649 she left, like, four messages. 37 00:03:46,749 --> 00:03:48,318 - She's writing an article about... - Fabulous. 38 00:03:48,418 --> 00:03:50,886 There's absolutely nothing I can do about that. 39 00:03:50,986 --> 00:03:53,756 Well, you could at least call her back and talk to her. 40 00:03:53,889 --> 00:03:56,926 Allison, my attorney made it very plain. It would be unwise. 41 00:03:57,059 --> 00:03:58,260 I would lose my immunity. 42 00:03:58,394 --> 00:04:00,330 Meanwhile, the Clintons get to turn me 43 00:04:00,430 --> 00:04:03,165 into Joseph Goebbels. 44 00:04:03,232 --> 00:04:05,335 And the whole world believes them. 45 00:04:08,003 --> 00:04:09,672 Mom, just come home already. 46 00:04:12,842 --> 00:04:15,244 I'm sick of staying with Dad. 47 00:04:16,278 --> 00:04:17,780 Can't blame you on that. 48 00:04:19,014 --> 00:04:20,950 Look, the reporters are gone 49 00:04:21,083 --> 00:04:22,752 from our street and I go by every day. 50 00:04:22,852 --> 00:04:24,454 Well, you shouldn't. 51 00:04:24,587 --> 00:04:25,921 It's not safe. 52 00:04:26,021 --> 00:04:27,957 But there's no one there anymore. 53 00:04:28,090 --> 00:04:30,125 I mean, come on. Mom? 54 00:04:30,259 --> 00:04:32,528 This? This is not healthy. 55 00:04:32,628 --> 00:04:34,697 You have your grand jury thing, you are under 56 00:04:34,797 --> 00:04:36,932 so much stress and you are just sitting here alone 57 00:04:37,066 --> 00:04:38,968 all day, reading articles about yourself. 58 00:04:41,303 --> 00:04:43,439 It's not just my testimony. 59 00:04:45,140 --> 00:04:47,042 I'm going to make a statement. 60 00:04:47,109 --> 00:04:48,611 What do you mean? 61 00:04:48,744 --> 00:04:52,281 I've decided, once I have my freedom back, 62 00:04:52,448 --> 00:04:56,452 I'm going to give a speech. I'm going to address the nation. 63 00:04:56,586 --> 00:04:58,621 What are you going to say? 64 00:04:59,955 --> 00:05:02,458 I'm simply going to tell my story. 65 00:05:21,310 --> 00:05:23,413 It's not fair. 66 00:05:23,479 --> 00:05:27,349 He didn't get paraded down to the courthouse. 67 00:05:27,483 --> 00:05:29,351 He got to testify at home. 68 00:05:29,485 --> 00:05:30,920 I'm not the president. 69 00:05:32,855 --> 00:05:34,990 Okay, no, really... how do I look? 70 00:05:35,090 --> 00:05:36,859 I'm going for "not a deranged whore." 71 00:05:38,093 --> 00:05:40,162 Okay, what do you want me to say? 72 00:05:40,329 --> 00:05:43,999 I'm about to be questioned by 23 strangers, 73 00:05:44,099 --> 00:05:45,334 and whoever they are, 74 00:05:45,501 --> 00:05:47,269 I'm sure they already hate me. 75 00:05:47,336 --> 00:05:49,271 Are you ready? 76 00:05:53,443 --> 00:05:56,679 We committed ourselves to a comprehensive strategy 77 00:05:56,846 --> 00:06:02,184 to lower the crime rate and make America a safer place to live. 78 00:06:02,284 --> 00:06:05,054 - I gave him that tie. - What? 79 00:06:05,187 --> 00:06:06,856 has shown remarkable result. 80 00:06:06,956 --> 00:06:08,123 It's Zegna. 81 00:06:08,190 --> 00:06:09,959 I bought it at the Neiman's in Mazza Gallerie. 82 00:06:10,025 --> 00:06:12,361 Does he know that she is testifying today? 83 00:06:12,495 --> 00:06:13,563 I'm sure. 84 00:06:13,696 --> 00:06:15,364 Do you think he's trying to send her a message? 85 00:06:15,498 --> 00:06:16,732 I mean, is that even legal? 86 00:06:16,866 --> 00:06:18,200 - Should I tell someone about that? - Mom. 87 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:19,569 We should resolve to do better. 88 00:06:19,702 --> 00:06:23,205 It's fine. I'm not going to let it mess me up. 89 00:06:32,882 --> 00:06:37,720 She's here, she's here! She's in that car! 90 00:06:37,853 --> 00:06:39,221 - Monica! - Hey, Monica! 91 00:06:43,759 --> 00:06:45,728 I can save you, Monica! 92 00:06:47,697 --> 00:06:49,331 You are going to hell! 93 00:06:49,431 --> 00:06:51,501 Monica, how are you feeling? 94 00:06:53,235 --> 00:06:55,004 Monica, are you in love with the president? 95 00:06:56,438 --> 00:06:58,073 Feel ready? 96 00:06:58,207 --> 00:07:00,442 I'm just excited to see the inside of a courtroom. 97 00:07:00,576 --> 00:07:02,778 You know, this is the first time Starr's given me anything 98 00:07:02,912 --> 00:07:04,580 to do beyond secretarial work. 99 00:07:04,714 --> 00:07:07,249 He is old-fashioned. 100 00:07:07,382 --> 00:07:09,451 And look, Monica and I are familiar, 101 00:07:09,585 --> 00:07:12,121 but Starr does have a point. 102 00:07:12,254 --> 00:07:14,757 It's better that a woman asks some of these questions. 103 00:07:15,758 --> 00:07:17,760 - She's here. - Okay. 104 00:07:17,893 --> 00:07:19,595 You can bring in the jury. 105 00:07:28,370 --> 00:07:32,642 - Are they already in there? - Yes, they've just been seated. 106 00:07:32,775 --> 00:07:35,044 We'll be right out here, anytime you need. 107 00:07:50,292 --> 00:07:51,961 Good morning. 108 00:07:52,094 --> 00:07:54,129 You can have a seat right there. 109 00:08:06,676 --> 00:08:07,910 Can you raise your right hand? 110 00:08:07,977 --> 00:08:09,511 Sure, yes. 111 00:08:11,146 --> 00:08:14,650 Do you, Monica S. Lewinsky, swear to tell the truth, 112 00:08:14,784 --> 00:08:17,319 the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 113 00:08:17,419 --> 00:08:19,088 I do. 114 00:08:23,993 --> 00:08:26,929 Now, Ms. Lewinsky, what we're going to do 115 00:08:26,996 --> 00:08:28,530 is we're going to start off 116 00:08:28,664 --> 00:08:30,700 talking about your relationship with the president. 117 00:08:32,835 --> 00:08:35,170 Do I not get to learn people's names? 118 00:08:36,338 --> 00:08:40,442 The answer to that is no. 119 00:08:40,509 --> 00:08:42,511 Um, I know it seems kind of... 120 00:08:42,678 --> 00:08:44,013 Kind of awkward. 121 00:08:44,113 --> 00:08:48,550 It's important that the record have no identifications. 122 00:08:48,684 --> 00:08:50,352 Okay. 123 00:08:50,452 --> 00:08:53,455 Now, as we have discussed, our office feels you'll be more 124 00:08:53,522 --> 00:08:56,692 comfortable getting certain questions from Ms. Immergut, 125 00:08:56,792 --> 00:08:59,729 so I'm going to turn it over to her now. 126 00:08:59,862 --> 00:09:02,732 Ms. Lewinsky, can you tell the grand jury: 127 00:09:02,865 --> 00:09:04,366 when did you start your relationship 128 00:09:04,499 --> 00:09:07,202 with the president of the United States? 129 00:09:08,370 --> 00:09:10,640 November 15, 1995. 130 00:09:10,706 --> 00:09:13,208 Um, it was during the shutdown 131 00:09:13,308 --> 00:09:14,977 when I was assigned to the West Wing. 132 00:09:15,044 --> 00:09:16,712 Can you tell the grand jury what happened? 133 00:09:18,814 --> 00:09:21,651 Around... around 8:00 in the evening 134 00:09:21,717 --> 00:09:24,987 I was headed into Mr. Stephanopoulos's office. 135 00:09:25,054 --> 00:09:28,323 The president... was in there. 136 00:09:28,423 --> 00:09:33,595 He invited me into the next room and then... 137 00:09:33,729 --> 00:09:34,997 we kissed. 138 00:09:35,064 --> 00:09:38,233 Did anything else happen between you? 139 00:09:41,403 --> 00:09:43,072 Um... 140 00:09:44,073 --> 00:09:49,278 And we were more... physically intimate after that. 141 00:09:49,411 --> 00:09:51,413 And what do you mean by that? 142 00:10:03,926 --> 00:10:05,094 On that occasion, did you 143 00:10:05,227 --> 00:10:06,528 perform oral sex on the president? 144 00:10:06,628 --> 00:10:09,264 God, this is embarrassing. 145 00:10:09,398 --> 00:10:12,034 I assure you we won't be dwelling on this. 146 00:10:15,137 --> 00:10:16,371 Yes, I did. 147 00:10:16,471 --> 00:10:18,941 Jesus. 148 00:10:19,775 --> 00:10:22,778 Was there any other physical intimacy performed? 149 00:10:26,615 --> 00:10:29,151 Everything up to oral sex. 150 00:10:30,452 --> 00:10:32,955 Now, to avoid you having to go into each subsequent 151 00:10:33,122 --> 00:10:35,290 act of physical intimacy, 152 00:10:35,457 --> 00:10:40,963 we'll introduce what we have marked as Exhibit ML-7. 153 00:10:57,079 --> 00:10:59,014 Did you provide all the information listed 154 00:10:59,148 --> 00:11:00,482 on this chart? 155 00:11:05,420 --> 00:11:06,822 Yes, I did. 156 00:11:06,989 --> 00:11:10,159 This details each of your sexual encounters 157 00:11:10,325 --> 00:11:11,260 with President Clinton. 158 00:11:11,326 --> 00:11:13,262 To the best of your knowledge, 159 00:11:13,328 --> 00:11:14,663 is it all accurate? 160 00:11:16,198 --> 00:11:20,335 Yes. I want to hide under this table, but yes. 161 00:11:20,435 --> 00:11:24,673 Ms. Lewinsky, did your relationship with the president 162 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,211 have a... non-sexual component? 163 00:11:30,212 --> 00:11:31,446 - Yes, it did. - Could you describe that 164 00:11:31,513 --> 00:11:32,848 for the grand jury? 165 00:11:32,948 --> 00:11:35,517 Sure, um... 166 00:11:37,719 --> 00:11:40,022 It was more than just... 167 00:11:41,723 --> 00:11:44,193 We enjoyed being with each other. 168 00:11:46,228 --> 00:11:48,463 He'd... we would tell jokes, 169 00:11:48,563 --> 00:11:50,966 talk about our childhoods, current events. 170 00:11:51,033 --> 00:11:53,702 Sometimes we'd just... 171 00:11:55,637 --> 00:11:57,406 Um, we'd just be affectionate. 172 00:11:57,539 --> 00:12:01,043 He'd push my hair out of my face. 173 00:12:02,711 --> 00:12:04,880 I think back on it and... 174 00:12:04,980 --> 00:12:07,249 he always made me smile when I was with him. 175 00:12:07,382 --> 00:12:09,718 It was a lot of... 176 00:12:13,155 --> 00:12:14,890 He was sunshine. 177 00:12:22,664 --> 00:12:26,501 - We okay for a break? - Yeah, ten minutes? 178 00:12:27,937 --> 00:12:29,771 Ten minutes, everyone. 179 00:12:51,927 --> 00:12:55,464 Moving through your affidavit here, let me ask you a question. 180 00:12:55,597 --> 00:12:57,867 Paragraph eight begins, 181 00:12:57,967 --> 00:13:00,102 "I have never had a sexual relationship 182 00:13:00,235 --> 00:13:02,104 with the president." 183 00:13:02,237 --> 00:13:03,305 Is that true? 184 00:13:05,607 --> 00:13:06,942 - No. - Okay, 185 00:13:07,042 --> 00:13:09,444 so the next logical follow-up is: 186 00:13:09,578 --> 00:13:12,281 why were you willing to say something false 187 00:13:12,447 --> 00:13:14,283 under penalty of perjury? 188 00:13:16,718 --> 00:13:19,554 I did not think my... my private relationship 189 00:13:19,621 --> 00:13:21,156 was anyone's business. 190 00:13:24,159 --> 00:13:27,829 No one asked me to lie... not the president, not anyone. 191 00:13:28,898 --> 00:13:32,467 I made that decision. By myself. 192 00:13:32,567 --> 00:13:36,305 And I wish I hadn't, to put it mildly. 193 00:13:36,471 --> 00:13:38,307 Thank you. 194 00:13:38,407 --> 00:13:41,143 Now, the grand jury has some questions for you. 195 00:13:43,012 --> 00:13:45,514 - Okay. - Did you and the president 196 00:13:45,647 --> 00:13:47,482 ever talk about denying the relationship 197 00:13:47,582 --> 00:13:49,018 if anyone asked about it? 198 00:13:49,151 --> 00:13:52,154 I offered that on-on my own. 199 00:13:52,321 --> 00:13:54,323 I always told him I would deny it. 200 00:13:54,423 --> 00:13:55,857 Why did you keep that stained black dress? 201 00:13:55,991 --> 00:13:57,492 - It's a blue dress. - Blue. - Blue. 202 00:13:57,659 --> 00:13:59,494 Answer the question, please. 203 00:13:59,661 --> 00:14:02,331 Well, I have a lot of clothes, 204 00:14:02,497 --> 00:14:05,000 and so I don't usually dry-clean things 205 00:14:05,167 --> 00:14:06,868 until I'm going to wear them again. 206 00:14:07,002 --> 00:14:08,670 Like, I don't know how you guys are, 207 00:14:08,770 --> 00:14:10,205 but you have clothes to dry-clean 208 00:14:10,339 --> 00:14:12,541 and you kind of keep them in your closet until you 209 00:14:12,674 --> 00:14:15,177 dry-clean them all together when you need them. 210 00:14:15,277 --> 00:14:17,846 And now I feel like I'm talking about 211 00:14:18,013 --> 00:14:20,849 dry-cleaning too much and the process around dry-cleaning. 212 00:14:20,950 --> 00:14:24,686 Anyway, with that dress... 213 00:14:24,786 --> 00:14:26,355 I was going to wear it again 214 00:14:26,521 --> 00:14:28,690 and when I told Linda that, 215 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:31,026 she told me I looked heavy in it. 216 00:14:32,194 --> 00:14:34,696 Um, so I-I never ended up wearing it again. 217 00:14:34,829 --> 00:14:39,401 Ergo I never cleaned it. Does that answer your question? 218 00:14:40,469 --> 00:14:44,373 Ms. Lewinsky, did your mother ever discourage 219 00:14:44,473 --> 00:14:46,641 your relationship with the president? 220 00:14:47,809 --> 00:14:48,743 Yes. 221 00:14:48,877 --> 00:14:51,646 Well, then, what kept it going? 222 00:14:53,648 --> 00:14:55,384 I fell in love. 223 00:14:56,385 --> 00:14:57,486 I have a question. 224 00:14:57,586 --> 00:14:59,588 You said you felt you were in 225 00:14:59,721 --> 00:15:01,390 a real relationship. 226 00:15:01,523 --> 00:15:02,891 A real connection. 227 00:15:03,025 --> 00:15:05,827 - Yes. - With this married man. 228 00:15:06,928 --> 00:15:08,430 - Yes. - It's been in the papers 229 00:15:08,563 --> 00:15:11,000 you had a relationship before. 230 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:13,735 Similar to this, a married man. 231 00:15:13,835 --> 00:15:16,771 The way Kate and Andy Bleiler made it seem on TV, 232 00:15:16,905 --> 00:15:19,508 it's-it's not entirely accurate. 233 00:15:19,608 --> 00:15:21,176 I-If that's the part that you're, um... 234 00:15:21,276 --> 00:15:23,278 The only part I know is that 235 00:15:23,412 --> 00:15:25,914 he was a married man and had a family. 236 00:15:26,048 --> 00:15:27,582 Yes. 237 00:15:27,682 --> 00:15:29,951 Like I know about the president. 238 00:15:31,253 --> 00:15:34,756 We're asked to trust your version of events, 239 00:15:34,856 --> 00:15:37,292 but it seems you arrived in D.C. and sought out 240 00:15:37,426 --> 00:15:41,596 a-an affair based on deception and lies. 241 00:15:42,764 --> 00:15:45,134 Did you not believe that this was wrong? 242 00:15:49,371 --> 00:15:51,140 My intention... 243 00:15:52,641 --> 00:15:55,144 when I came to Washington was to start over. 244 00:15:56,778 --> 00:15:58,613 I did not want to have another affair 245 00:15:58,747 --> 00:16:00,649 with a married man because it was horrible. 246 00:16:00,782 --> 00:16:03,052 And I don't know why I did it again. 247 00:16:03,118 --> 00:16:06,121 I just know that I did it again. 248 00:16:08,290 --> 00:16:10,792 And I know a lot of... a lot of people think that 249 00:16:10,925 --> 00:16:12,994 that's wrong, and so do I. 250 00:16:13,128 --> 00:16:17,966 I know there's a lot of work I need to do on myself. 251 00:16:19,968 --> 00:16:22,137 I just feel I had to ask the question because 252 00:16:22,271 --> 00:16:23,638 a lot of us are confused. 253 00:16:23,738 --> 00:16:25,474 - I'm not. - No need to be rude. 254 00:16:25,607 --> 00:16:27,309 It's okay. 255 00:16:27,409 --> 00:16:28,810 In a way, I really, I really appreciate 256 00:16:28,943 --> 00:16:30,312 you asking me where I'm coming from, 257 00:16:30,445 --> 00:16:33,148 'cause most people just assume when it comes to me, so... 258 00:16:33,248 --> 00:16:36,651 Um, I really respect your question 259 00:16:36,785 --> 00:16:38,653 and I-I appreciate what you're saying. 260 00:16:39,654 --> 00:16:40,822 Whatever your name is. 261 00:16:40,989 --> 00:16:42,591 Ms. Lewinsky... 262 00:16:42,657 --> 00:16:45,327 Can you, can you guys call me Monica? 263 00:16:45,427 --> 00:16:47,028 Are-are they allowed to call me Monica? 264 00:16:47,162 --> 00:16:48,497 If you say so. 265 00:16:50,865 --> 00:16:52,167 Sure. 266 00:16:52,267 --> 00:16:55,170 I'm just 25. Please. 267 00:16:55,270 --> 00:16:59,441 But you'll be Ms. Lewinsky whether you're 25 or 28 or... 268 00:16:59,508 --> 00:17:02,511 Not when I get married. 269 00:17:02,611 --> 00:17:06,681 Monica, do you still love the president? 270 00:17:12,554 --> 00:17:15,690 The day they held me at the Ritz, 271 00:17:15,790 --> 00:17:19,394 they wanted me to turn on him. 272 00:17:19,528 --> 00:17:21,530 I said no. 273 00:17:21,630 --> 00:17:24,533 I-I did not want to do anything to let him get hurt. 274 00:17:24,666 --> 00:17:26,535 And then when this all came out, 275 00:17:26,668 --> 00:17:28,703 the-the people that worked for him, 276 00:17:28,837 --> 00:17:30,639 they trashed me. 277 00:17:30,739 --> 00:17:32,241 They claim that they haven't, 278 00:17:32,374 --> 00:17:35,377 but they call me a stalker. They called me a liar. 279 00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:39,481 They say I'm inappropriate. I mean, you all know. 280 00:17:40,915 --> 00:17:43,218 And then he makes this speech. 281 00:17:44,486 --> 00:17:46,721 And he says... 282 00:17:46,855 --> 00:17:49,057 He makes it seem like... 283 00:17:49,158 --> 00:17:51,260 all that he cares about is how unfair all of this 284 00:17:51,393 --> 00:17:53,428 has been to him. 285 00:17:55,063 --> 00:17:58,333 So to... sorry... to answer your question, um... 286 00:18:01,270 --> 00:18:03,238 it turns out he's not who I thought he was. 287 00:18:03,372 --> 00:18:05,774 Monica, about that day you just mentioned 288 00:18:05,907 --> 00:18:07,742 when you were approached by Mr. Emmick 289 00:18:07,876 --> 00:18:10,679 and the OIC, can you tell us a little bit about that? 290 00:18:10,779 --> 00:18:12,247 Um... 291 00:18:12,381 --> 00:18:15,184 If I could ask, what areas are you 292 00:18:15,284 --> 00:18:16,685 wanting to get into? 293 00:18:16,785 --> 00:18:19,921 Because we're already tight for time and, 294 00:18:20,054 --> 00:18:21,423 well, you know, there were... 295 00:18:21,556 --> 00:18:23,458 many hours of activity. 296 00:18:23,592 --> 00:18:25,427 Just want to know about that day. 297 00:18:26,628 --> 00:18:29,464 Okay, well, how about we table that for now... 298 00:18:29,598 --> 00:18:32,767 - No, I want to hear about that. - We should be able to hear about that day. 299 00:18:32,867 --> 00:18:34,135 Let her talk. Why not? 300 00:18:34,269 --> 00:18:36,605 Let her talk. 301 00:18:36,738 --> 00:18:39,107 All right, go ahead. 302 00:18:40,442 --> 00:18:42,311 So, you were approached in the food court 303 00:18:42,444 --> 00:18:44,613 at Pentagon City by two FBI agents. 304 00:18:44,779 --> 00:18:46,948 Linda Tripp had lied to get you there. Is that right? 305 00:18:47,048 --> 00:18:48,450 Yes. 306 00:18:48,617 --> 00:18:51,320 And then they proceeded to take you up to a hotel room. 307 00:18:51,453 --> 00:18:53,288 Why didn't you ask for your lawyer? 308 00:18:54,623 --> 00:18:55,990 I did. 309 00:18:57,626 --> 00:19:00,128 But they told me I was in trouble and that 310 00:19:00,295 --> 00:19:02,964 I wouldn't be able to help myself with my attorney present, 311 00:19:03,064 --> 00:19:04,966 so I just did what they said. 312 00:19:05,133 --> 00:19:08,136 It was the FBI and I was really scared. 313 00:19:08,237 --> 00:19:10,071 What happened when you got up there? 314 00:19:17,145 --> 00:19:20,415 S-Sorry. 315 00:19:21,483 --> 00:19:24,653 Would it be okay... can you step out? 316 00:19:27,188 --> 00:19:30,158 Karin can take over from here, right? 317 00:19:30,259 --> 00:19:32,361 Karin can take over. 318 00:19:32,494 --> 00:19:33,828 Karin can stay. 319 00:19:49,944 --> 00:19:51,680 Thank you. 320 00:20:00,021 --> 00:20:03,458 They said if I called my lawyer, I wouldn't be offered immunity. 321 00:20:03,525 --> 00:20:05,860 Did you feel threatened by that? 322 00:20:06,795 --> 00:20:09,197 Did they offer you a chance to call another attorney? 323 00:20:09,298 --> 00:20:10,899 They suggested one. 324 00:20:11,032 --> 00:20:12,867 Did you take them up on that? 325 00:20:13,001 --> 00:20:15,036 - No. - Why not? 326 00:20:15,136 --> 00:20:17,906 Because I didn't trust them. 327 00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:20,475 It sounds as though they were actively discouraging you 328 00:20:20,575 --> 00:20:22,411 from talking to an attorney. 329 00:20:22,544 --> 00:20:24,379 Well, from talking to Frank Carter. 330 00:20:24,479 --> 00:20:27,316 Yes, Frank Carter, my only attorney. 331 00:20:28,983 --> 00:20:30,719 Are we due for a ten-minute break? 332 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:32,987 No, ma'am. 333 00:20:45,099 --> 00:20:48,002 It lasted about 12 hours in total. 334 00:20:48,069 --> 00:20:50,839 My God. Wow. 335 00:20:50,939 --> 00:20:53,842 And they told me over and over that I was free 336 00:20:53,942 --> 00:20:55,610 to leave, but I didn't. 337 00:20:58,413 --> 00:21:00,449 I didn't understand because they also said 338 00:21:00,582 --> 00:21:03,084 they were prepared to indict me and I could 339 00:21:03,184 --> 00:21:06,120 spend up to 28 years in prison and that they would 340 00:21:06,254 --> 00:21:10,258 prosecute my mother if I didn't help them, you know? So... 341 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,462 I was, confused and... 342 00:21:13,595 --> 00:21:15,096 Were you angry? 343 00:21:18,266 --> 00:21:21,102 Yes, mostly at myself. 344 00:21:21,202 --> 00:21:23,271 For ending up in this situation. 345 00:21:25,974 --> 00:21:28,810 And for putting the president at risk. 346 00:21:28,943 --> 00:21:30,211 And... 347 00:21:32,381 --> 00:21:36,284 And-and for, doing this to my family. 348 00:21:36,418 --> 00:21:39,888 Monica, they set you in a trap. 349 00:21:39,954 --> 00:21:41,890 It's what they do. 350 00:21:41,956 --> 00:21:43,958 Monica, is there anything else you'd like to add 351 00:21:44,058 --> 00:21:45,293 to your testimony? 352 00:21:45,394 --> 00:21:47,496 We want to give you the fullest opportunity. 353 00:21:48,497 --> 00:21:50,565 Um... 354 00:21:54,969 --> 00:21:59,641 I guess I want to say that no one asked me to lie. 355 00:21:59,808 --> 00:22:02,511 And I was never promised a job for my silence. 356 00:22:03,978 --> 00:22:05,480 Mostly I'm sorry. 357 00:22:06,981 --> 00:22:09,317 I'm really sorry for everything that happened. 358 00:22:13,822 --> 00:22:16,324 And I hate Linda Tripp. 359 00:22:16,425 --> 00:22:18,026 I know that's right. 360 00:22:18,159 --> 00:22:20,328 Forget her. 361 00:22:20,495 --> 00:22:24,165 - What goes around comes around. - It does. 362 00:22:33,875 --> 00:22:35,510 I am going to go in and remove some 363 00:22:35,610 --> 00:22:38,179 extra cartilage and bone right here. 364 00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:40,348 Then I'm going to go ahead and pull the skin 365 00:22:40,449 --> 00:22:42,684 off of the issue so I can chisel that bump down. 366 00:22:42,851 --> 00:22:46,020 Then we fracture it so that we can close the roof, 367 00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:48,022 much the same way you would on a house. 368 00:22:48,189 --> 00:22:49,190 Does that make sense? 369 00:22:49,357 --> 00:22:51,025 Um... 370 00:22:51,125 --> 00:22:52,461 Yeah. 371 00:22:52,527 --> 00:22:55,196 Dr. Loeb does wonderful work. 372 00:22:55,363 --> 00:22:57,031 Thanks. Okay, I'm going to go ahead 373 00:22:57,165 --> 00:22:59,367 and step out and do my final prep. 374 00:22:59,501 --> 00:23:01,302 I'll see you in there. 375 00:23:01,369 --> 00:23:03,137 Okay. 376 00:23:06,808 --> 00:23:09,911 - Where's Steve? - He didn't want to come. 377 00:23:10,044 --> 00:23:13,982 Is he still in a funk about losing his job? 378 00:23:14,048 --> 00:23:15,884 Gosh, yes, he's... 379 00:23:16,017 --> 00:23:19,888 blaming my case and says the airline fired him because of 380 00:23:19,988 --> 00:23:22,056 pressure from Clinton, but, Susie, 381 00:23:22,190 --> 00:23:25,159 he wouldn't work the hours that they wanted him to. 382 00:23:25,226 --> 00:23:26,928 I think that's all that it is. 383 00:23:27,061 --> 00:23:28,497 Well, did you tell him that? 384 00:23:29,998 --> 00:23:32,066 He won't listen to me. 385 00:23:34,836 --> 00:23:37,105 Hey. You nervous? 386 00:23:37,238 --> 00:23:40,108 I'm just glad that people'll stop making fun 387 00:23:40,241 --> 00:23:41,943 of my big ol' awful nose. 388 00:25:27,782 --> 00:25:31,953 I'm told there is a Russian children's verse that says, 389 00:25:32,020 --> 00:25:35,523 "What do we plant when we plant a new wood? 390 00:25:35,624 --> 00:25:39,527 Boats in which waves can safely be withstood." 391 00:25:39,628 --> 00:25:43,031 In both our nations, music education is that 392 00:25:43,131 --> 00:25:45,366 sturdy boat that lifts us up, 393 00:25:45,499 --> 00:25:49,203 that carries our unique cultural treasures into the future. 394 00:25:49,337 --> 00:25:52,807 And now, it is my honor to introduce to you Bill Clinton, 395 00:25:52,907 --> 00:25:56,244 president of the United States. 396 00:26:09,090 --> 00:26:11,760 Mr. President, Mr. Bowles said you wanted this list... 397 00:26:11,893 --> 00:26:14,095 I know what it is. Thanks. 398 00:26:22,236 --> 00:26:24,572 Betty, would you ask the first lady to come see me? 399 00:26:24,673 --> 00:26:26,240 Right away, sir. 400 00:26:50,131 --> 00:26:51,532 You wanted to see me? 401 00:26:51,632 --> 00:26:54,035 I wanted to say something. 402 00:27:04,813 --> 00:27:08,116 25 years, you're the one opinion I give a shit about. 403 00:27:09,550 --> 00:27:13,287 Most men of our age, they... they find their wives so dull 404 00:27:13,454 --> 00:27:16,390 they cringe when she talks at dinner. 405 00:27:16,457 --> 00:27:18,727 I pity those men. 406 00:27:18,793 --> 00:27:21,129 They don't have what I do. 407 00:27:25,633 --> 00:27:29,137 I gave in to a disgusting impulse. 408 00:27:29,270 --> 00:27:31,906 Because I didn't know how to walk down the hall 409 00:27:31,973 --> 00:27:34,408 and say to my best friend 410 00:27:34,475 --> 00:27:36,745 that this job is lonely 411 00:27:36,811 --> 00:27:38,980 and I'm worn to the bone... 412 00:27:40,181 --> 00:27:42,583 and I'm dead inside half the time. 413 00:27:44,485 --> 00:27:46,154 There's been hell raining down on us 414 00:27:46,254 --> 00:27:48,656 from the day we walked into this place. 415 00:27:48,757 --> 00:27:50,992 You know, every move we make... the right, 416 00:27:51,092 --> 00:27:53,327 the press, they seize, attack and drag us 417 00:27:53,427 --> 00:27:55,997 through the streets over nothing. 418 00:27:56,097 --> 00:27:59,667 And I know it's stupid, but when Newt shuts down the government, 419 00:27:59,768 --> 00:28:02,170 and Starr has slithered into our lives 420 00:28:02,270 --> 00:28:05,006 to look for malfeasance in every line of every receipt 421 00:28:05,173 --> 00:28:07,175 of every piddly thing we've ever bought, 422 00:28:07,275 --> 00:28:09,844 I thought I had to be strong for us. 423 00:28:10,011 --> 00:28:12,346 And instead, I fucked it all up. 424 00:28:21,856 --> 00:28:24,192 When it first came out, I was so ashamed I wanted to 425 00:28:24,358 --> 00:28:26,294 crawl in a hole and disappear. 426 00:28:29,197 --> 00:28:31,866 I couldn't bear what I'd done to you and Chelsea. 427 00:28:33,634 --> 00:28:36,704 I couldn't face telling you, I just couldn't. 428 00:28:38,873 --> 00:28:41,475 So I made it worse and I lied. 429 00:28:50,151 --> 00:28:54,322 Everything good in my life comes out of us together. 430 00:28:58,259 --> 00:29:00,829 I don't know who I am without you. 431 00:29:02,096 --> 00:29:05,066 I know you said you didn't care why it happened. 432 00:29:05,199 --> 00:29:07,401 But I wanted you to know. 433 00:29:13,341 --> 00:29:14,608 Is that all? 434 00:29:14,742 --> 00:29:16,277 No. 435 00:29:16,410 --> 00:29:17,912 I love you. 436 00:29:18,947 --> 00:29:20,614 That's all. 437 00:29:38,299 --> 00:29:40,468 - Mom? - Busy. 438 00:29:40,601 --> 00:29:41,870 There's all this stuff in here. 439 00:29:41,970 --> 00:29:43,137 I didn't know that you were arrested. 440 00:29:43,271 --> 00:29:44,772 It was a teen prank. 441 00:29:44,906 --> 00:29:46,941 Some boys put things in my purse as a joke. 442 00:29:47,075 --> 00:29:48,642 Okay, but this part about your dad... 443 00:29:48,776 --> 00:29:50,644 I mean, you don't talk about him my entire life and I have 444 00:29:50,778 --> 00:29:53,447 no idea why until someone writes an article about it. 445 00:30:05,793 --> 00:30:07,628 My God. 446 00:30:13,501 --> 00:30:15,469 Jesus Christ. 447 00:30:18,472 --> 00:30:20,641 - Unbelievable. - What? 448 00:30:20,808 --> 00:30:22,476 None of this is what I asked for. 449 00:30:22,576 --> 00:30:25,313 They know what I need to do my job and they... 450 00:30:25,446 --> 00:30:28,482 they send me a completely useless pile of paper. 451 00:30:29,817 --> 00:30:31,752 And look at the shape it's in. 452 00:30:39,027 --> 00:30:40,161 This is a message. 453 00:30:40,328 --> 00:30:43,331 Could just be one of the lazier secretaries. 454 00:30:45,666 --> 00:30:47,001 Bring my purse. 455 00:30:54,675 --> 00:30:57,511 - My God. - Linda, 456 00:30:57,611 --> 00:30:59,213 I didn't know you were coming in. 457 00:30:59,347 --> 00:31:01,115 I need to see Ken. 458 00:31:09,690 --> 00:31:12,193 - Excuse me. - I work here. 459 00:31:15,629 --> 00:31:18,532 No, I have to go. Okay, it's just... Leave us. 460 00:31:18,666 --> 00:31:21,202 Linda, you know you cannot just... 461 00:31:21,302 --> 00:31:22,870 Did you oversee and approve this shipment? 462 00:31:23,004 --> 00:31:24,405 - What? - It's a simple question. 463 00:31:24,538 --> 00:31:27,808 Did you oversee and approve this shipment? 464 00:31:27,908 --> 00:31:30,311 - I can't say that I have any... - Because I asked for the basic materials 465 00:31:30,411 --> 00:31:32,913 I need to do my job and what I got 466 00:31:33,047 --> 00:31:35,649 was random printed email traffic. 467 00:31:35,749 --> 00:31:39,653 Some JCOC participant list thrown violently into a box. 468 00:31:39,753 --> 00:31:42,390 - Linda. - This is chilling. 469 00:31:42,523 --> 00:31:46,094 This is veiled hostility from my colleagues, 470 00:31:46,227 --> 00:31:47,428 simply because I'm a cooperating witness 471 00:31:47,561 --> 00:31:48,997 in a federal investigation. 472 00:31:49,097 --> 00:31:50,831 I'm sure it was just an honest mistake. 473 00:31:50,931 --> 00:31:53,501 - We are past that, Ken. - Listen. 474 00:31:53,567 --> 00:31:55,569 Just write down exactly what you need 475 00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:57,938 - and then we... - What I need 476 00:31:58,072 --> 00:32:01,275 is to come here like normal and do my work. 477 00:32:01,409 --> 00:32:03,611 And I do not doubt that you'll be able to do that soon, 478 00:32:03,744 --> 00:32:04,678 and that things will settle down, 479 00:32:04,778 --> 00:32:06,914 but DOD just opened this investigation 480 00:32:07,015 --> 00:32:08,249 - and until we... - What? 481 00:32:09,450 --> 00:32:10,618 What investigation? 482 00:32:14,622 --> 00:32:16,257 They'll be contacting you. 483 00:32:16,390 --> 00:32:17,758 When you were hired, 484 00:32:17,891 --> 00:32:22,096 you affirmed on your DD 398 that you had never been arrested. 485 00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:23,597 Now, The New Yorker has come out... 486 00:32:23,731 --> 00:32:25,099 It was a teen prank! 487 00:32:25,233 --> 00:32:27,301 - Linda... - On me! 488 00:32:29,303 --> 00:32:30,771 The charges were dropped. 489 00:32:30,904 --> 00:32:34,308 Linda, you cannot lie to the Department of Defense 490 00:32:34,442 --> 00:32:36,144 on a security clearance form. 491 00:32:36,277 --> 00:32:38,546 That is a serious crime. 492 00:32:39,613 --> 00:32:41,115 I see. 493 00:32:43,151 --> 00:32:44,452 I see now. 494 00:32:45,453 --> 00:32:46,620 You see what? 495 00:32:46,754 --> 00:32:49,457 They're really coming after me. 496 00:32:49,557 --> 00:32:51,625 Okay, well... 497 00:33:07,007 --> 00:33:09,310 Good afternoon, ma'am. I'm Special Agent Irons 498 00:33:09,443 --> 00:33:11,145 with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. 499 00:33:11,312 --> 00:33:12,980 This is Special Agent Fallon. 500 00:33:13,081 --> 00:33:15,316 Do you have a moment to speak with us? 501 00:33:19,987 --> 00:33:21,322 Thank you, ma'am. 502 00:33:21,422 --> 00:33:22,823 We're detailed with the Office 503 00:33:22,923 --> 00:33:24,825 of Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr. 504 00:33:24,925 --> 00:33:26,827 Perhaps you've seen Judge Starr on the news. 505 00:33:26,927 --> 00:33:29,530 Well, he's finishing up his investigation, 506 00:33:29,663 --> 00:33:31,499 preparing to make a report to Congress. 507 00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:33,501 We're just here following up on some threads. 508 00:33:33,667 --> 00:33:36,204 Ma'am, as you may know, the president and others 509 00:33:36,337 --> 00:33:38,706 are in legal peril because of false affidavits 510 00:33:38,839 --> 00:33:40,508 filed in the Paula Jones lawsuit. 511 00:33:40,674 --> 00:33:42,876 We're just dotting our i's, Ms. Broaddrick. You understand. 512 00:33:43,010 --> 00:33:46,347 Now, here is your Jones affidavit. 513 00:33:46,514 --> 00:33:48,516 You swore this a few months back. 514 00:33:48,616 --> 00:33:50,518 Here, you state that President Bill Clinton 515 00:33:50,684 --> 00:33:53,687 never made any unwanted sexual advances toward you. 516 00:33:53,787 --> 00:33:57,291 Ma'am, were you being truthful when you signed your name 517 00:33:57,358 --> 00:33:59,026 to this statement? 518 00:34:12,906 --> 00:34:14,242 I don't... 519 00:34:14,375 --> 00:34:15,876 I don't get it. 520 00:34:17,211 --> 00:34:19,147 Okay. Thank you. Bye. 521 00:34:20,148 --> 00:34:22,250 How was your audition? 522 00:34:22,383 --> 00:34:24,152 It sucked. 523 00:34:24,252 --> 00:34:28,389 - Who was that? - The lawyers. They said... 524 00:34:29,823 --> 00:34:31,592 the judge did a summary judgment. 525 00:34:31,725 --> 00:34:34,228 What is that? 526 00:34:34,328 --> 00:34:36,330 It's... it's bad. 527 00:34:36,397 --> 00:34:40,234 It means that she threw out the case. 528 00:34:41,335 --> 00:34:42,903 The Supreme Court said you had a case. 529 00:34:43,036 --> 00:34:46,106 But now the judge says I don't, so I... 530 00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:47,841 I guess it's over. 531 00:34:47,941 --> 00:34:51,345 What? What-what do we get? How much money we get? 532 00:34:51,445 --> 00:34:53,781 Well, that's what I'm saying. Um... 533 00:34:53,914 --> 00:34:56,284 It's nothing. We get nothing. 534 00:34:56,417 --> 00:34:57,918 - The fuck?! - I know. 535 00:34:58,051 --> 00:35:00,120 - I know, I need to call Susie. - Yeah, great idea. 536 00:35:00,254 --> 00:35:02,290 Smart. She always makes things better. 537 00:35:02,423 --> 00:35:04,625 - Steve, don't. - No, no, we need to go back 538 00:35:04,758 --> 00:35:05,793 and we need to take Clinton's deal. 539 00:35:05,926 --> 00:35:07,094 I wanted that money. 540 00:35:07,228 --> 00:35:10,931 What? No, no, but you and Susie 541 00:35:11,031 --> 00:35:13,100 told me that I shouldn't take it, so... 542 00:35:13,234 --> 00:35:16,470 I don't wanna hear your fucking voice. 543 00:35:16,604 --> 00:35:18,606 Wait, but that is not fair because I... gosh, 544 00:35:18,739 --> 00:35:21,609 I only ever started doing this 'cause you wanted me to. 545 00:35:21,709 --> 00:35:24,445 I-I did... I did all this for you. 546 00:35:24,578 --> 00:35:27,147 You sound pretty stupid right now with your face 547 00:35:27,281 --> 00:35:29,450 all broken from a nose job. 548 00:35:29,550 --> 00:35:32,119 Because I got a bad nose, 549 00:35:32,220 --> 00:35:34,322 which I didn't even know I had 550 00:35:34,455 --> 00:35:36,957 until you made me do this and be on TV 551 00:35:37,124 --> 00:35:40,461 and people laughed at me, but... 552 00:35:40,561 --> 00:35:43,130 but I did it, like I always do what you say. 553 00:35:43,264 --> 00:35:44,998 You think I liked moving to California, 554 00:35:45,132 --> 00:35:46,467 where I've never seen so many people 555 00:35:46,567 --> 00:35:48,135 who smile while they hate you 556 00:35:48,269 --> 00:35:49,970 and it makes my skin fucking crawl 557 00:35:50,103 --> 00:35:52,306 and it's sunny all day and it's... 558 00:35:52,473 --> 00:35:54,141 You think it'll be better if we move home, 559 00:35:54,242 --> 00:35:56,810 where everyone knows exactly who you are and what you did? 560 00:35:56,977 --> 00:35:58,646 What do you mean, "what I did"? 561 00:36:02,316 --> 00:36:03,817 What do you mean? 562 00:36:06,153 --> 00:36:09,657 Say it. Say it, Steve. 563 00:36:12,860 --> 00:36:14,662 You think I did it. 564 00:36:14,762 --> 00:36:17,665 You think I went up there and I gave him a blow job. 565 00:36:21,369 --> 00:36:23,837 Yeah, okay, okay. 566 00:36:25,205 --> 00:36:28,509 I can take this from Jay Leno 567 00:36:28,609 --> 00:36:33,046 and people laughing at me at Vons, but... 568 00:36:33,180 --> 00:36:35,015 from you? 569 00:36:35,115 --> 00:36:37,017 You're supposed to believe me! 570 00:36:37,117 --> 00:36:41,188 We are fighting to show people that he did me wrong! 571 00:36:41,355 --> 00:36:43,857 And... 572 00:36:43,957 --> 00:36:45,859 And in reality, all-all this is... 573 00:36:45,959 --> 00:36:48,362 all the press conferences and all the magazines 574 00:36:48,496 --> 00:36:50,364 and-and the TV shows 575 00:36:50,498 --> 00:36:53,467 and the lawyers and more lawyers and more lawyers... 576 00:36:53,567 --> 00:36:57,305 it's just me trying to get you to believe me! 577 00:36:57,371 --> 00:37:02,543 Which we both know you never did, so you know what? 578 00:37:02,676 --> 00:37:05,646 If you want to say I'm stupid, well, fuck you! 579 00:37:05,713 --> 00:37:08,316 But most of all, if I'm stupid on one thing, 580 00:37:08,382 --> 00:37:09,883 it was believing that you were any more 581 00:37:10,017 --> 00:37:13,321 than a chickenshit asshole who cared about me at all! 582 00:37:25,499 --> 00:37:28,068 You think I'm gonna ask you to stay?! 583 00:37:35,576 --> 00:37:37,911 Okay, it's pretty simple. 584 00:37:38,011 --> 00:37:40,280 You listen to all of these tapes. After each one, 585 00:37:40,414 --> 00:37:42,616 you sign the tape, as well as sign 586 00:37:42,750 --> 00:37:43,951 and date those documents, 587 00:37:44,084 --> 00:37:47,254 confirming that the voices are you and Linda Tripp. 588 00:37:47,355 --> 00:37:48,756 I have to listen to all of these? 589 00:37:48,889 --> 00:37:50,591 They're all evidence. 590 00:37:50,691 --> 00:37:52,760 Karin here will sit in with you. 591 00:37:52,860 --> 00:37:54,962 I would, but I gotta get to the courthouse. 592 00:37:55,095 --> 00:37:57,365 What's happening at the courthouse? 593 00:38:01,602 --> 00:38:04,104 Do you, Linda R. Tripp, swear to tell the truth, 594 00:38:04,237 --> 00:38:06,807 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 595 00:38:06,940 --> 00:38:08,308 I do. 596 00:38:12,145 --> 00:38:13,947 You ready? 597 00:38:17,551 --> 00:38:19,953 - Hi. - Hi. 598 00:38:21,288 --> 00:38:22,456 How are you? 599 00:38:24,124 --> 00:38:27,461 Now, with Mr. Wisenberg's assistance, 600 00:38:27,561 --> 00:38:29,296 I'd like to read to you 601 00:38:29,463 --> 00:38:32,800 what the grand jury has come to know as Tape 11. 602 00:38:34,568 --> 00:38:36,904 You have a, transcript there. 603 00:38:36,970 --> 00:38:38,672 Okay. 604 00:38:40,641 --> 00:38:42,810 "Linda, I got the creep a tie. 605 00:38:42,976 --> 00:38:44,978 It was 20 bucks at Marshalls." 606 00:38:45,145 --> 00:38:46,980 "Good, who makes it?" 607 00:38:47,147 --> 00:38:49,182 "Calvin Klein. It's gorgeous, Linda." 608 00:38:49,316 --> 00:38:51,485 "Yeah, Marshalls generally, 609 00:38:51,619 --> 00:38:53,521 every now and then, you can hit." 610 00:38:53,654 --> 00:38:56,657 "It's really different from all the other ones I've given him. 611 00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:58,659 "I'm putting a note with it. 612 00:38:58,759 --> 00:39:00,093 I wrote such a funny card to him." 613 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,495 Linda Tripp laughs. 614 00:39:01,595 --> 00:39:02,830 I said, "This tie will 615 00:39:02,996 --> 00:39:05,198 "look good with either a taupe or navy suit 616 00:39:05,332 --> 00:39:06,700 "and a white or a light blue shirt. 617 00:39:06,834 --> 00:39:09,437 That is, if you like it." 618 00:39:09,503 --> 00:39:11,038 "And then do you know what I wrote? 619 00:39:11,171 --> 00:39:15,008 "I said, 'And just think, now you can pay homage to me 620 00:39:15,175 --> 00:39:18,278 "if you want by having a work week in which you 621 00:39:18,345 --> 00:39:20,113 wear one of my ties every day.'" 622 00:39:20,180 --> 00:39:21,449 Linda Tripp laughs. 623 00:39:21,515 --> 00:39:23,383 Ms. Lewinsky laughs. 624 00:39:23,517 --> 00:39:25,453 'Cause this is the fifth one, right? 625 00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:27,287 You have to give him one for the weekend days, too. 626 00:39:27,354 --> 00:39:30,691 "That's what I want. That's my fantasy. 627 00:39:30,791 --> 00:39:34,361 To have the creep wear one of my ties every day." 628 00:39:35,362 --> 00:39:39,232 Um, Ms. Tripp, who was the creep? 629 00:39:43,036 --> 00:39:45,473 The president of the United States. 630 00:39:45,539 --> 00:39:49,042 Was this typical of the sort of subject 631 00:39:49,142 --> 00:39:50,878 you and Monica Lewinsky would discuss? 632 00:39:51,011 --> 00:39:53,914 Yes, we almost never talked about anything 633 00:39:54,047 --> 00:39:56,316 aside from the president. 634 00:39:56,383 --> 00:39:58,886 She shared a lot of intimate details with you, did she not? 635 00:40:01,054 --> 00:40:02,322 She did. 636 00:40:02,389 --> 00:40:03,591 I was upset before, 637 00:40:03,724 --> 00:40:05,559 but not like I am now. 638 00:40:05,659 --> 00:40:07,060 Man. 639 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,996 It's too much for one person. 640 00:40:09,096 --> 00:40:11,499 It is too much for one person. 641 00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:12,566 Yes, it is. 642 00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:15,268 Moving into November 1997. 643 00:40:15,402 --> 00:40:19,439 Is it fair to say that Ms. Lewinsky was increasingly 644 00:40:19,573 --> 00:40:21,775 distraught on her calls with you? 645 00:40:21,909 --> 00:40:25,613 Yes, she was obsessed with the president's lack of contact. 646 00:40:25,746 --> 00:40:29,449 And what typically would happen when she tried to make contact? 647 00:40:29,583 --> 00:40:32,520 She would call Betty Currie and then call me 648 00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:33,954 to tell me she called Betty. 649 00:40:34,087 --> 00:40:35,422 And then, if Betty hadn't gotten back to her 650 00:40:35,523 --> 00:40:37,525 within an hour, she would get angry 651 00:40:37,625 --> 00:40:40,027 and call Betty again, then call me again. 652 00:40:40,127 --> 00:40:43,463 Crescendoing to some sort of nuclear outburst. 653 00:40:43,597 --> 00:40:45,298 Okay, now I'd like to move... 654 00:40:45,432 --> 00:40:48,035 Sorry, can I ask a question? 655 00:40:51,939 --> 00:40:54,274 Did you want Monica to stop calling you? 656 00:40:54,407 --> 00:40:56,476 Yes. 657 00:40:56,610 --> 00:41:00,480 Her behavior became volatile. Very erratic. 658 00:41:00,614 --> 00:41:04,451 So why did you not just say, "Please stop calling me"? 659 00:41:04,552 --> 00:41:07,287 That's what my kid said. 660 00:41:07,420 --> 00:41:08,288 So why didn't you? 661 00:41:08,455 --> 00:41:11,458 Well, at a, at a certain point, 662 00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:12,893 you can't unring a bell. 663 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,462 You talk like this was a grave situation 664 00:41:15,563 --> 00:41:18,231 and harmful for Monica, right? 665 00:41:18,298 --> 00:41:20,801 - Yes, very. - But earlier 666 00:41:20,968 --> 00:41:22,636 we heard you encouraging her 667 00:41:22,736 --> 00:41:24,905 to buy him a tie for each day of the week. 668 00:41:24,972 --> 00:41:27,575 Well, that... 669 00:41:27,641 --> 00:41:28,976 I was joking. 670 00:41:29,142 --> 00:41:32,245 And when Monica said, "I got the creep a tie. 671 00:41:32,312 --> 00:41:34,648 It was 20 bucks at Marshalls," 672 00:41:34,815 --> 00:41:36,750 you replied, "Good." 673 00:41:36,817 --> 00:41:38,586 Well, I was being... 674 00:41:39,753 --> 00:41:41,354 That was more of a pro-Marshalls. 675 00:41:41,488 --> 00:41:45,425 So, was this a serious situation or was this a joking matter? 676 00:41:45,492 --> 00:41:47,327 That's one moment out of context. 677 00:41:47,494 --> 00:41:49,830 Or were you just trying to keep her talking? 678 00:41:49,930 --> 00:41:52,365 Because by then you were taping. 679 00:41:53,701 --> 00:41:55,168 I prefer to call it documenting. 680 00:41:55,268 --> 00:41:56,336 Why did you tape her? 681 00:41:56,503 --> 00:41:58,205 We'll get to that in just a little bit. 682 00:41:58,338 --> 00:42:00,674 I documented our phone calls because I knew 683 00:42:00,774 --> 00:42:03,043 - I needed evidence. - Evidence for what? 684 00:42:04,511 --> 00:42:06,947 Well, for... so when I came forward... 685 00:42:07,014 --> 00:42:08,949 - But it was a private matter. - I don't think you comprehend... 686 00:42:09,016 --> 00:42:10,684 It was between Monica and the president. 687 00:42:10,851 --> 00:42:11,852 No one needed to know. 688 00:42:11,952 --> 00:42:14,521 Actually, this was a very young staffer 689 00:42:14,622 --> 00:42:17,024 in a workplace with the most senior official 690 00:42:17,124 --> 00:42:18,859 in that workplace making choices 691 00:42:18,959 --> 00:42:21,695 that were causing her severe distress. 692 00:42:21,862 --> 00:42:24,031 She told me on more than one occasion 693 00:42:24,164 --> 00:42:25,465 she wanted to kill herself. 694 00:42:25,565 --> 00:42:29,369 And still, the president of the United States 695 00:42:29,469 --> 00:42:31,304 used her to meet his needs. 696 00:42:31,371 --> 00:42:35,475 He had total control. His behavior was unconscionable. 697 00:42:38,478 --> 00:42:40,547 It was an abuse of power. 698 00:42:40,681 --> 00:42:42,716 - Mrs. Tripp... - I had to end it. 699 00:42:42,850 --> 00:42:44,484 I had to end it. 700 00:42:49,923 --> 00:42:53,661 Mrs. Tripp, when you chose to... 701 00:42:53,761 --> 00:42:57,064 begin documenting Monica, 702 00:42:57,197 --> 00:43:00,267 you were under enormous stress, correct? 703 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,003 I was terrified. 704 00:43:03,103 --> 00:43:06,506 I knew if I came forward with no evidence, 705 00:43:06,573 --> 00:43:08,108 they would destroy me. 706 00:43:08,241 --> 00:43:11,078 When you say "they," who are you referring to? 707 00:43:11,211 --> 00:43:13,947 Bill Clinton. 708 00:43:14,081 --> 00:43:16,283 And, Hillary Rodham Clinton. 709 00:43:16,416 --> 00:43:18,251 Man. 710 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,190 The president's lawyer had already made 711 00:43:23,290 --> 00:43:25,625 a defamatory statement about me in Newsweek. 712 00:43:25,759 --> 00:43:27,761 I was sure I was going to be subpoenaed 713 00:43:27,895 --> 00:43:29,296 in the Paula Jones case. 714 00:43:29,429 --> 00:43:31,431 I felt, if I told the truth under oath, 715 00:43:31,531 --> 00:43:33,600 I would lose my job. 716 00:43:33,734 --> 00:43:35,268 Or worse. 717 00:43:35,368 --> 00:43:38,471 You thought if you told the truth in the Paula Jones case... 718 00:43:38,605 --> 00:43:40,107 I was afraid I wouldn't even get the chance. 719 00:43:40,207 --> 00:43:42,976 Are you... are you saying you thought you would be killed? 720 00:43:43,110 --> 00:43:44,945 Yes. 721 00:43:45,078 --> 00:43:47,314 - Why? - I have what I consider 722 00:43:47,447 --> 00:43:49,116 well-founded fears 723 00:43:49,216 --> 00:43:51,218 of what this administration is capable of. 724 00:43:51,284 --> 00:43:53,053 Can you give an example? 725 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,956 I have, reason to believe 726 00:43:56,089 --> 00:43:58,158 that the Vince Foster tragedy was not 727 00:43:58,291 --> 00:44:01,294 depicted accurately by members of the administration. 728 00:44:01,428 --> 00:44:04,631 Are you... are you saying he didn't commit suicide? 729 00:44:04,798 --> 00:44:07,300 We will never know. 730 00:44:07,467 --> 00:44:09,469 Mrs. Tripp, do you have information 731 00:44:09,602 --> 00:44:11,671 about the White House and the death of Vince Foster? 732 00:44:11,805 --> 00:44:14,808 I'll just say this. 733 00:44:14,975 --> 00:44:17,811 The day after that tragedy, 734 00:44:17,945 --> 00:44:21,481 the behavior I saw in the West Wing frightened me. 735 00:44:21,648 --> 00:44:24,517 There was a flurry of activity, boxes 736 00:44:24,651 --> 00:44:26,486 and secrecy behind closed doors. 737 00:44:26,619 --> 00:44:29,156 I was concerned, and I was alarmed. 738 00:44:29,289 --> 00:44:31,992 Because people were meeting behind closed doors? 739 00:44:32,092 --> 00:44:36,163 It was far more ominous than that. 740 00:44:39,366 --> 00:44:42,269 I am telling you, under oath today, 741 00:44:42,335 --> 00:44:44,671 that I felt threatened. 742 00:44:44,838 --> 00:44:49,009 And I was angry. And I resented it. 743 00:44:49,176 --> 00:44:52,012 - And still do. - I have a question. 744 00:44:52,179 --> 00:44:54,347 Did you ever think about what would happen 745 00:44:54,514 --> 00:44:56,784 to Monica when all this came out? 746 00:44:59,519 --> 00:45:02,355 All right, call me back, you nut. 747 00:45:02,455 --> 00:45:05,692 - I will, I will. - Bye. 748 00:45:14,634 --> 00:45:15,869 - Done. - Your attorney 749 00:45:16,003 --> 00:45:17,204 has a car waiting for you out back. 750 00:45:17,304 --> 00:45:18,371 If you want, I can... 751 00:45:18,505 --> 00:45:20,407 I know the way. 752 00:45:24,978 --> 00:45:28,548 I thought, if this became public, 753 00:45:28,681 --> 00:45:31,384 Monica would not be in any sort of danger. 754 00:45:31,518 --> 00:45:33,887 But you said you felt dangers, both personal 755 00:45:33,987 --> 00:45:35,889 and professional, could befall you. 756 00:45:35,989 --> 00:45:38,725 What crossed your mind that would befall Monica? 757 00:45:40,260 --> 00:45:42,395 What-what would befall her? 758 00:45:42,495 --> 00:45:44,731 Did you have any fears for her? 759 00:45:44,865 --> 00:45:46,733 All these details in the public. 760 00:45:46,867 --> 00:45:49,569 She was... I-I think I said this. 761 00:45:49,702 --> 00:45:51,504 She was suicidal. 762 00:45:51,571 --> 00:45:53,073 You're not answering her question. 763 00:45:53,173 --> 00:45:58,445 What Monica was going through was extremely unhealthy. 764 00:45:58,578 --> 00:46:00,613 But you didn't think it would bring her harm? 765 00:46:02,115 --> 00:46:04,117 Well, not compared to... 766 00:46:06,786 --> 00:46:08,755 - No. - Why not? 767 00:46:10,590 --> 00:46:11,691 Pardon? 768 00:46:11,791 --> 00:46:14,527 Why would you not think about her? 769 00:46:17,931 --> 00:46:22,135 I was thinking that she was in a tremendously bad situation. 770 00:46:24,104 --> 00:46:27,774 And do you feel now she's better off because of what you did? 771 00:46:27,908 --> 00:46:30,310 Do you feel her life is better now? 772 00:46:39,652 --> 00:46:42,055 - How'd it go? - Ready, Linda? 773 00:46:43,456 --> 00:46:44,958 You sure? 774 00:46:45,125 --> 00:46:47,060 You don't have to do this right now. 775 00:47:03,143 --> 00:47:04,477 We understand 776 00:47:04,577 --> 00:47:07,080 there is some interest in hearing from Ms. Tripp. 777 00:47:07,147 --> 00:47:09,682 She will not be taking any questions today. 778 00:47:09,816 --> 00:47:13,987 She has, however, agreed to make some brief remarks. 779 00:47:17,991 --> 00:47:21,194 Good afternoon. I'm not a public speaker. 780 00:47:21,328 --> 00:47:23,196 I'm going to have to refer to my notes. 781 00:47:23,330 --> 00:47:24,331 Please bear with me. 782 00:47:29,502 --> 00:47:32,672 I understand that there's been a great deal of speculation 783 00:47:32,772 --> 00:47:36,176 about just who I am and how I got here. 784 00:47:36,276 --> 00:47:38,678 Well, the answer is simple. 785 00:47:38,778 --> 00:47:42,015 I'm you. I'm just like you. 786 00:47:43,183 --> 00:47:46,519 I'm an average American who found herself in a situation 787 00:47:46,619 --> 00:47:48,855 not of her own making. 788 00:47:48,956 --> 00:47:51,858 Because I am just like you, I ask you to imagine how you 789 00:47:51,959 --> 00:47:54,694 would feel if someone you thought was a friend 790 00:47:54,794 --> 00:47:56,629 urged you to commit a felony. 791 00:47:58,031 --> 00:48:00,800 Imagine how you would feel if your boss's attorney 792 00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:03,703 called you a liar in front of the whole country. 793 00:48:04,904 --> 00:48:06,406 And imagine if that boss 794 00:48:06,539 --> 00:48:08,976 was the president of the United States. 795 00:48:12,045 --> 00:48:15,815 Imagine how you would feel if your employer demoted you 796 00:48:15,915 --> 00:48:19,586 and cast you aside, for daring to tell the truth. 797 00:48:23,656 --> 00:48:26,826 Imagine how it would feel to see the pain in your children's eyes 798 00:48:26,893 --> 00:48:29,429 when they hear a seemingly endless barrage 799 00:48:29,562 --> 00:48:31,764 of lies about their mother. 800 00:48:31,898 --> 00:48:35,768 A mother who is not going out to defend herself. 801 00:48:41,608 --> 00:48:44,444 I've been vilified for taking the path of truth. 802 00:48:45,612 --> 00:48:47,614 I've been maligned by people who have chosen 803 00:48:47,747 --> 00:48:49,682 not to tell the truth, 804 00:48:49,782 --> 00:48:53,086 and who know they are not telling the truth. 805 00:48:53,220 --> 00:48:55,022 To cast me in the role of the villain, 806 00:48:55,122 --> 00:48:57,790 they have enlisted legions of paid prevaricators. 807 00:48:57,924 --> 00:48:59,792 Not surprisingly, many from the entertainment industry 808 00:48:59,926 --> 00:49:02,795 have chosen to ridicule me as well. 809 00:49:03,963 --> 00:49:06,633 Going so far as to even make fun of my appearance 810 00:49:06,766 --> 00:49:10,303 in a manner so mean and so cruel that I pray none of you 811 00:49:10,437 --> 00:49:11,871 is ever subjected to it. 812 00:49:13,940 --> 00:49:15,642 Despite all of that, 813 00:49:15,775 --> 00:49:18,811 I bear no malice towards anyone in this case. 814 00:49:27,787 --> 00:49:29,622 I believe in our country. 815 00:49:30,957 --> 00:49:34,127 As I said, I am no different than any of you. 816 00:49:34,261 --> 00:49:38,298 I believe you have the right to tell the truth under oath 817 00:49:38,398 --> 00:49:40,967 without fear of retribution or worse. 818 00:49:43,070 --> 00:49:46,473 I hope that when all the facts are revealed, 819 00:49:46,573 --> 00:49:48,141 you'll understand that it is a right 820 00:49:48,308 --> 00:49:50,577 all of us should be fighting for. 821 00:49:53,313 --> 00:49:54,647 Thank you. 822 00:49:56,916 --> 00:49:58,651 Why did you betray Monica Lewinsky? 823 00:49:59,819 --> 00:50:00,853 We're not taking any questions. 824 00:50:00,987 --> 00:50:03,090 Linda, do you regret taping Monica? 825 00:50:03,156 --> 00:50:04,991 Isn't it true you manipulated her? 826 00:50:05,158 --> 00:50:07,594 Did you do all this for a book deal? 827 00:50:18,171 --> 00:50:19,539 The atmosphere feels very different 828 00:50:19,672 --> 00:50:20,840 - among the party now. - Look, I've read 829 00:50:20,940 --> 00:50:22,175 the deposition and it's very clear... 830 00:50:22,275 --> 00:50:23,543 Members of President Clinton's 831 00:50:23,676 --> 00:50:24,844 own party are now wavering in their support, 832 00:50:24,944 --> 00:50:25,845 including my guest, 833 00:50:26,012 --> 00:50:27,547 Congressman Jim Moran. 834 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,849 The fact is he lied to the American people. 835 00:50:30,016 --> 00:50:32,352 That is undoubtedly going to 836 00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:34,954 necessitate impeachment proceedings. 837 00:50:49,202 --> 00:50:53,206 Andrew Johnson... worst leader this country ever had. 838 00:50:53,306 --> 00:50:56,042 Racist to his core, drunk as hell 839 00:50:56,143 --> 00:50:58,545 the day he took over for Lincoln. 840 00:50:59,979 --> 00:51:03,716 1868 Congress finally impeached his ass. 841 00:51:05,051 --> 00:51:07,887 Only president that's happened to, only one. 842 00:51:09,489 --> 00:51:10,890 Till now. 843 00:51:12,659 --> 00:51:14,894 I hate it when you're like this. 844 00:51:15,027 --> 00:51:18,165 We have not lost anything, not yet. 845 00:51:23,236 --> 00:51:24,904 I'll call Jim Moran. 846 00:51:26,005 --> 00:51:27,674 What'll you say? 847 00:51:27,740 --> 00:51:32,011 I will say that if he thinks he is fighting for me, 848 00:51:32,111 --> 00:51:35,081 then he needs to fight on my side. 849 00:51:35,182 --> 00:51:37,450 And the way I see it, 850 00:51:37,584 --> 00:51:40,253 there are forces that have been trying to take my husband 851 00:51:40,387 --> 00:51:43,122 down his whole life and I don't want them to win. 852 00:51:43,256 --> 00:51:44,957 And I won't let them. 853 00:51:46,193 --> 00:51:48,461 And yes, the right's got the votes, 854 00:51:48,595 --> 00:51:50,197 and I'm sure they will do their worst. 855 00:51:50,297 --> 00:51:51,631 But to state the obvious, 856 00:51:51,764 --> 00:51:53,633 you are not Andrew fucking Johnson. 857 00:51:53,766 --> 00:51:57,437 And the last billion times the GOP has tried to destroy us, 858 00:51:57,570 --> 00:51:59,939 we have wiped the floor with them. 859 00:52:00,072 --> 00:52:01,608 Have you seen the polls? 860 00:52:01,708 --> 00:52:03,610 Every step they take towards this 861 00:52:03,743 --> 00:52:07,714 moronic idea, your approval jumps a point. 862 00:52:07,814 --> 00:52:09,482 Nobody's looking at the polls. 863 00:52:09,616 --> 00:52:11,818 My own party isn't looking at the polls. 864 00:52:11,951 --> 00:52:14,621 They just need permission to forgive you. 865 00:52:14,721 --> 00:52:17,457 Which is something that you can't give them. 866 00:52:20,793 --> 00:52:22,295 But I can. 867 00:52:24,964 --> 00:52:27,133 This is all the FBI interviews? 868 00:52:27,234 --> 00:52:29,001 We're waiting on a few more. 869 00:52:29,135 --> 00:52:30,503 We have a problem. 870 00:52:30,637 --> 00:52:32,138 We need to put Monica back under oath. 871 00:52:32,305 --> 00:52:34,807 - Why? - Our perjury charge rests on the president 872 00:52:34,974 --> 00:52:37,143 claiming that technically he didn't have sex with her because 873 00:52:37,244 --> 00:52:38,911 he never touched her with intent to arouse. 874 00:52:38,978 --> 00:52:41,648 He's lying, but here's hours and hours 875 00:52:41,748 --> 00:52:43,650 of Monica's testimony, and she never once 876 00:52:43,783 --> 00:52:45,252 speaks about all the times 877 00:52:45,318 --> 00:52:47,153 that he touched her with intent to arouse. 878 00:52:47,254 --> 00:52:48,988 It was implied on our chart. 879 00:52:49,155 --> 00:52:52,325 That's weak shit. We need her under oath, in detail, 880 00:52:52,459 --> 00:52:54,261 on all the sex, proving him wrong. 881 00:52:54,327 --> 00:52:55,995 Okay, let's bring her back in. 882 00:52:56,095 --> 00:52:59,999 Gosh, who's going to handle asking her about that? 883 00:53:01,334 --> 00:53:04,504 We are on the record. Monica, you're still under oath. 884 00:53:05,538 --> 00:53:08,508 First, I want to start by asking you a general question. 885 00:53:08,675 --> 00:53:10,543 Did your relationship with President Clinton 886 00:53:10,677 --> 00:53:12,279 start with sex and then evolve into 887 00:53:12,345 --> 00:53:14,013 a friendship or the other way around? 888 00:53:15,682 --> 00:53:18,017 It started with a physical attraction 889 00:53:18,117 --> 00:53:20,687 which led to a sexual relationship. 890 00:53:20,787 --> 00:53:22,855 And then the emotional and... 891 00:53:22,955 --> 00:53:25,458 friendship aspects of that relationship developed 892 00:53:25,525 --> 00:53:28,695 after the beginning of the sexual relationship. 893 00:53:29,862 --> 00:53:31,864 Why don't we start with the first incident 894 00:53:32,031 --> 00:53:34,133 of physical intimacy: November 15, 1995, 895 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,202 which you've already testified some about. 896 00:53:36,303 --> 00:53:38,371 - Okay. - Can you tell me 897 00:53:38,505 --> 00:53:40,139 how the physical intimacy between you two 898 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,474 began that night? 899 00:53:44,477 --> 00:53:45,878 Um... 900 00:53:47,146 --> 00:53:49,982 Well, we were... 901 00:53:50,049 --> 00:53:52,719 in an office alone. 902 00:53:52,819 --> 00:53:54,887 Kissing, you know? 903 00:53:56,389 --> 00:53:59,392 And then what happened after the kissing started? 904 00:54:01,661 --> 00:54:07,900 Um, he started untucking my shirt. 905 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,168 And then what? 906 00:54:12,572 --> 00:54:15,074 I'm sorry. For legal reasons, 907 00:54:15,207 --> 00:54:18,244 I need to get specifically what happened. 908 00:54:18,378 --> 00:54:19,946 Each physical interaction. 909 00:54:21,514 --> 00:54:22,915 Okay. 910 00:54:23,916 --> 00:54:26,252 Um... 911 00:54:26,386 --> 00:54:32,091 So, he took off my sweater and, you know... 912 00:54:32,224 --> 00:54:34,193 Did he touch your breasts? 913 00:54:35,628 --> 00:54:38,531 - Yes. - With your bra on or off? 914 00:54:42,101 --> 00:54:44,437 I... 915 00:54:44,537 --> 00:54:48,808 I-I... I don't remember if I unhooked my bra 916 00:54:48,941 --> 00:54:51,978 or if he, um... 917 00:54:55,114 --> 00:54:57,984 lifted my... 918 00:54:58,117 --> 00:55:00,653 bra up over... This is embarrassing. 919 00:55:00,787 --> 00:55:02,121 I know. 920 00:55:02,221 --> 00:55:03,623 I'm sorry. 921 00:55:09,128 --> 00:55:10,563 But he... 922 00:55:11,798 --> 00:55:14,501 He lifted the bra over your breasts. 923 00:55:14,634 --> 00:55:18,004 Um... sometimes... 924 00:55:21,641 --> 00:55:27,980 he would lift my-my breasts out of my bra. God. 925 00:55:28,147 --> 00:55:30,483 Did he touch your breasts with his hands? 926 00:55:30,617 --> 00:55:31,651 Yes. 927 00:55:31,784 --> 00:55:33,653 Did he touch your breasts with his mouth? 928 00:55:34,987 --> 00:55:37,156 - Yes. - Did he touch your genital area? 929 00:55:41,761 --> 00:55:45,164 I-I know this is... 930 00:55:45,264 --> 00:55:47,667 It's just, um, thinking about other people reading this... 931 00:55:47,767 --> 00:55:50,670 I understand, but I've been instructed 932 00:55:50,837 --> 00:55:52,171 to question you on these details. 933 00:55:52,271 --> 00:55:53,606 - And I have to answer? - Pursuant to the agreement 934 00:55:53,673 --> 00:55:55,608 you have with this office, yes. 935 00:55:55,675 --> 00:55:57,176 Do you understand? 936 00:55:58,511 --> 00:56:00,346 - Yes. - Okay. 937 00:56:01,848 --> 00:56:04,050 Did he touch your genitals on this date? 938 00:56:06,118 --> 00:56:07,186 Yes. 939 00:56:07,286 --> 00:56:09,856 Can you describe exactly how that happened? 940 00:56:12,692 --> 00:56:14,060 He, um... 941 00:56:23,369 --> 00:56:25,472 The president... 942 00:56:25,538 --> 00:56:29,075 got a call, so we moved into a back office. 943 00:56:31,644 --> 00:56:33,480 While he was on the phone... 944 00:56:36,549 --> 00:56:39,986 he put his hand, down my pants and he... 945 00:56:40,052 --> 00:56:42,088 stimulated that area. 946 00:56:42,221 --> 00:56:44,390 Directly on your skin or through underwear? 947 00:56:46,993 --> 00:56:50,062 It was, um, touching... 948 00:56:50,162 --> 00:56:53,232 through my underwear at first and then he 949 00:56:53,365 --> 00:56:55,668 placed his hand under my underwear. 950 00:56:55,735 --> 00:56:57,904 And did he bring you to orgasm? 951 00:57:01,741 --> 00:57:03,910 - Yes. - Okay. 952 00:57:05,612 --> 00:57:08,615 On this night, did you perform oral sex on the president? 953 00:57:08,748 --> 00:57:10,416 Yes. 954 00:57:12,284 --> 00:57:13,620 Who initiated that? 955 00:57:13,753 --> 00:57:15,421 I did. 956 00:57:16,623 --> 00:57:19,959 Did the president say anything to you during this? 957 00:57:21,594 --> 00:57:22,929 No. 958 00:57:25,765 --> 00:57:27,133 He was on the phone. 959 00:57:30,770 --> 00:57:32,639 Would you like a break? 960 00:57:41,548 --> 00:57:44,383 Moving to March 31, 1996, 961 00:57:44,450 --> 00:57:46,452 did the president stimulate your genitals? 962 00:57:46,553 --> 00:57:47,954 Yes. 963 00:57:50,122 --> 00:57:52,391 Was that through clothing? 964 00:57:54,226 --> 00:57:55,962 Not through clothing. 965 00:57:56,095 --> 00:57:59,398 And he stimulated your genitals with his hands? 966 00:57:59,465 --> 00:58:02,802 Yes. And... 967 00:58:05,404 --> 00:58:06,806 And? 968 00:58:08,975 --> 00:58:11,343 He used, um... 969 00:58:13,312 --> 00:58:15,147 He had a cigar. 970 00:58:18,985 --> 00:58:22,321 I'm sorry, could you speak just a little louder for the tape? 971 00:58:22,421 --> 00:58:23,823 Okay, sorry. 972 00:58:23,923 --> 00:58:24,991 He had a cigar. 973 00:58:25,091 --> 00:58:27,326 Did he insert the cigar into your vagina? 974 00:58:30,763 --> 00:58:32,665 I'm sorry, I'm gonna need you to answer verbally. 975 00:58:32,765 --> 00:58:33,833 Yes. 976 00:58:36,002 --> 00:58:38,170 Whose idea, um...? 977 00:58:39,772 --> 00:58:41,173 How did that...? 978 00:58:42,508 --> 00:58:46,178 Um, we were talking, um, 979 00:58:46,278 --> 00:58:49,682 in the Oval Office... 980 00:58:49,782 --> 00:58:53,352 one day and he was, 981 00:58:53,519 --> 00:58:56,188 he-he was chewing on a... 982 00:58:56,355 --> 00:59:00,860 cigar and he looked at it in a sort of... 983 00:59:03,062 --> 00:59:06,799 naughty way and I said, 984 00:59:06,866 --> 00:59:11,704 "We can do that sometime." So we did. 985 00:59:12,805 --> 00:59:15,241 Did you understand it to be arousing? 986 00:59:16,876 --> 00:59:18,911 - Yes. - Then what happened? 987 00:59:29,388 --> 00:59:31,090 Um... 988 00:59:32,324 --> 00:59:36,729 He put it in his mouth. He said it tasted good. 989 00:59:40,232 --> 00:59:42,669 Okay, I have just one last question. 990 00:59:42,769 --> 00:59:44,403 It goes to your motivation. 991 00:59:46,072 --> 00:59:49,241 Do you for any reason want to hurt the president? 992 00:59:51,243 --> 00:59:53,780 No, that's the last thing I want. 993 00:59:53,913 --> 00:59:55,748 All right. 994 00:59:55,882 --> 00:59:59,418 Thank you. You did really well, Monica. 995 01:00:00,953 --> 01:00:03,355 That's all I have. I have to run this in. 996 01:00:03,455 --> 01:00:06,092 Pam can help you see yourself out. 997 01:00:07,426 --> 01:00:09,595 Is it a boy or a girl? 998 01:00:12,131 --> 01:00:15,935 It's a boy. 999 01:00:16,035 --> 01:00:17,937 Mazel tov. 1000 01:00:19,371 --> 01:00:21,473 For your sake, I hope this is goodbye. 1001 01:00:37,623 --> 01:00:42,128 I want the full report ready for Congress by Labor Day. 1002 01:00:42,261 --> 01:00:44,063 Judge, that's two weeks from now. 1003 01:00:44,130 --> 01:00:45,965 Any closer to the election and it will 1004 01:00:46,132 --> 01:00:48,134 appear like a political hit on the Democrats. 1005 01:00:48,234 --> 01:00:50,636 Brett, please make sure everyone has their drafts in 1006 01:00:50,737 --> 01:00:51,971 by September 4th. 1007 01:00:52,138 --> 01:00:55,341 - Got it. - Our FBI guys just sent this 302. 1008 01:00:55,474 --> 01:00:57,176 It's a new interview with Jane Doe 5. 1009 01:00:57,309 --> 01:00:59,645 Real name Juanita Broaddrick. She's changing her statement. 1010 01:00:59,812 --> 01:01:02,314 - What she's saying? - That Bill Clinton raped her. 1011 01:01:02,481 --> 01:01:05,317 This is that same woman who, back in January, 1012 01:01:05,417 --> 01:01:07,486 signed an affidavit saying nothing ever happened. 1013 01:01:07,653 --> 01:01:08,821 Right. Now she says that was a lie. 1014 01:01:08,988 --> 01:01:11,190 Why is she lying? Was she coerced by the Clintons? 1015 01:01:11,323 --> 01:01:13,993 - No. - Was she offered something? 1016 01:01:14,093 --> 01:01:16,495 No, no quid pro quo. She's saying she lied at first 1017 01:01:16,662 --> 01:01:18,164 because she didn't want to be involved. 1018 01:01:18,264 --> 01:01:20,833 She's had no contact with Clinton people since the '80s. 1019 01:01:20,933 --> 01:01:22,001 Well, if he didn't pressure her, 1020 01:01:22,101 --> 01:01:23,502 then it doesn't go to his criminality. 1021 01:01:23,602 --> 01:01:26,172 Except for the raping. 1022 01:01:26,272 --> 01:01:27,673 H-He raped her. 1023 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,509 We can't be cluttering the report with all 1024 01:01:30,609 --> 01:01:33,179 the various sexual experiences from his past. 1025 01:01:33,345 --> 01:01:35,381 Yeah, there's only so much ink in the world, Sol. 1026 01:01:35,514 --> 01:01:40,686 I just... Judge, read the 302, read what he did. 1027 01:01:43,956 --> 01:01:46,692 Perjury and obstruction of justice. 1028 01:01:46,859 --> 01:01:48,861 Those are our grounds for impeachment, 1029 01:01:49,028 --> 01:01:51,030 not some lady who changes her mind 1030 01:01:51,197 --> 01:01:52,364 about what happened one night. 1031 01:01:52,531 --> 01:01:54,867 But... 1032 01:01:57,303 --> 01:02:00,873 Okay. So, should we not put her in the report at all? 1033 01:02:00,973 --> 01:02:03,042 It can be an appendix if you want. 1034 01:02:03,142 --> 01:02:04,811 Put her in a footnote. 1035 01:02:06,578 --> 01:02:07,713 Okay. 1036 01:03:59,325 --> 01:04:02,161 Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH 76491

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