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(sizzling)
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(knob twisting)
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(clicking)
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LINDA:
No, rotate.
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(sizzling)
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You have to rotate it.
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Jesus Christ. May I?
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(clicking accelerates)
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(whispering indistinctly)
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(timer dings)
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Oh, thank you.
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(sizzling)
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That's Linda Tripp.
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(whispering indistinctly)
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-(lid creaks)
- Morning, Ron.
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(whirring)
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Hello, Ken, it's Linda Tripp.
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Again. It was alarming enough
to be asked to write a how-to
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manual for my own job,
but it has now been nearly
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one month since I requested
the materials I need to even
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attempt to start on this,
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and-and still
I've received nothing.
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(rattling, clunking)
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(sizzling)
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(quiet chatter, laughter)
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(speaking quietly)
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At a minimum,
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I will need my
correspondence books
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and all volumes of the archival
histories of JCOC 59 and 60.
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If anyone cast the slightest
glance at my cubicle,
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they would easily find
all of these on my desk there.
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BOB GOODMAN: Lucianne,
have you had any occasion to
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talk to Linda recently?
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I haven't talked to Linda
since, uh, uh, the day
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she wore the wire
to the Ritz-Carlton Hotel.
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Judge Starr asked her
not to be in touch.
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-With anyone?
- Right, with anyone.
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GOODMAN:
Are you surprised that only one
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out of ten Americans
view her favorably?
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No, not with how the White Houe
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and sundry sympathetic
people have
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framed the discussion
of Linda in such a negative wa.
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GOODMAN: Do you think it also
might be that people don't
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like people
who tape their friends?
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(whirring)
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♪
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(sizzling)
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Rotate.
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(knocking on door)
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- Hello.
- Hi.
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This is all that there was.
Nothing from your office...
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Ugh.
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Oh, and I, uh...
I checked the machine.
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This lady named Jane
from The New Yorker,
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she left, like, four messages.
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- She's writing
an article about...
- Fabulous.
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There's absolutely nothing
I can do about that.
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Well, you could at least
call her back and talk to her.
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Allison, my attorney made it
very plain. It would be unwise.
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I would lose my immunity.
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Meanwhile,
the Clintons get to turn me
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into Joseph Goebbels.
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And the whole world
believes them.
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Mom, just come home already.
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- I'm sick of staying with Dad.
-(chuckles)
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Can't blame you on that.
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-(chuckles)
- Look, the reporters are gone
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from our street
and I go by every day.
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Well, you shouldn't.
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It's not safe.
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But there's no one
there anymore.
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-(scoffs)
- I mean, come on. Mom?
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This? This is not healthy.
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You have your grand jury thing,
you are under
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so much stress and you are
just sitting here alone
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all day, reading articles
about yourself.
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It's not just my testimony.
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I'm going to make a statement.
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What do you mean?
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I've decided,
once I have my freedom back,
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I'm going to give a speech.
I'm going to address the nation.
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What are you going to say?
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I'm simply
going to tell my story.
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♪
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(TV newsman speaking quietly)
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It's not fair.
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He didn't get paraded
down to the courthouse.
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He got to testify at home.
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I'm not the president.
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Okay, no, really--
how do I look?
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I'm going for
"not a deranged whore."
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Okay, what do you
want me to say?
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I'm about to be questioned
by 23 strangers,
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and whoever they are,
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I'm sure they already hate me.
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PLATO (calls):
Are you ready?
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BILL (on TV):
We committed ourselves
to a comprehensive strategy
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to lower the crime rate and mae
America a safer place to live.
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- I gave him that tie.
- What?
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...has shown remarkable result.
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It's Zegna.
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I bought it at the Neiman's
in Mazza Gallerie.
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Does he know that she
is testifying today?
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I'm sure.
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Do you think he's trying
to send her a message?
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I mean, is that even legal?
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- Should I tell someone
about that?
- Mom.
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BILL:
We should resolve to do better.
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It's fine. I'm not going to
let it mess me up.
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REPORTER: She's here,
she's here! She's in that car!
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- WOMAN: Monica!
- MAN: Hey, Monica!
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(crowd clamoring)
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I can save you, Monica!
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(clamoring continues)
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You are going to hell!
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Monica, how are you feeling?
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(clamoring continues)
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Monica, are you in love
with the president?
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Feel ready?
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I'm just excited to see
the inside of a courtroom.
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You know, this is the first time
Starr's given me anything
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to do beyond secretarial work.
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He is old-fashioned.
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And look, Monica and I
are familiar,
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but Starr does have a point.
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It's better that a woman asks
some of these questions.
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- She's here.
- Okay.
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You can bring in the jury.
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- Are they already in there?
- Yes, they've just been seated.
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We'll be right out here,
anytime you need.
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EMMICK:
Good morning.
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You can have a seat right there.
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Can you raise your right hand?
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Oh, sure, yes.
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Do you, Monica S. Lewinsky,
swear to tell the truth,
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the whole truth and nothing but
the truth, so help you God?
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I do.
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(clears throat)
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Now, uh, Ms. Lewinsky,
what we're going to do
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is we're going to start off
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talking about your relationship
with the president.
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Do I not get
to learn people's names?
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(smacks lips)
Uh, the answer to that is no.
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Um, I know it seems kind of...
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Kind of awkward.
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It's important that the record
have no identifications.
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Oh, okay.
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Now, as we have discussed,
our office feels you'll be more
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comfortable getting certain
questions from Ms. Immergut,
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so I'm going to
turn it over to her now.
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Ms. Lewinsky,
can you tell the grand jury:
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when did you
start your relationship
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with the president
of the United States?
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November 15, 1995.
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Um, it was during the shutdown
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when I was assigned to
the West Wing.
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Can you tell the grand jury
what happened?
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Around... uh,
around 8:00 in the evening
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I was headed into
Mr. Stephanopoulos's office.
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The president... was in there.
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He invited me into
the next room and then...
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we kissed.
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IMMERGUT: Did anything else
happen between you?
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(sighs)
Um...
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And we were more...
physically intimate after that.
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And what do you mean by that?
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On that occasion, did you
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perform oral sex
on the president?
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God, this is embarrassing.
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I assure you
we won't be dwelling on this.
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Yes, I did.
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Jesus.
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Was there any other
physical intimacy performed?
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Everything up to oral sex.
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Now, to avoid you having
to go into each subsequent
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act of physical intimacy,
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we'll introduce what we
have marked as Exhibit ML-7.
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♪
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IMMERGUT:
Did you provide all
the information listed
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on this chart?
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Yes, I did.
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This details each of
your sexual encounters
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with President Clinton.
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To the best of your knowledge,
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is it all accurate?
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Yes. I want to hide
under this table, but yes.
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Ms. Lewinsky, did your
relationship with the president
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have a... non-sexual component?
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- Yes, it did.
- Could you describe that
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for the grand jury?
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Sure, um...
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It was more than just...
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We enjoyed
being with each other.
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He'd-- we would tell jokes,
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talk about our childhoods,
current events.
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Sometimes we'd just...
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Um, we'd just be affectionate.
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He'd push my hair
out of my face.
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I think back on it and...
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he always made me smile
when I was with him.
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It was a lot of, uh...
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He was sunshine.
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- We okay for a break?
- Uh, yeah, ten minutes?
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Ten minutes, everyone.
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EMMICK:
Moving through your affidavit
here, let me ask you a question.
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Paragraph eight begins,
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"I have never had
a sexual relationship
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with the president."
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Is that true?
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- No.
- Okay,
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so the next logical
follow-up is:
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why were you willing to
say something false
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under penalty of perjury?
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Uh, I did not think my...
my private relationship
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was anyone's business.
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No one asked me to lie--
not the president, not anyone.
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I made that decision.
By myself.
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And I wish I hadn't,
to put it mildly.
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Thank you.
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Now, the grand jury
has some questions for you.
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- Okay.
- Did you and the president
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ever talk about
denying the relationship
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if anyone asked about it?
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I offered that on-on my own.
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I always told him
I would deny it.
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Why did you keep
that stained black dress?
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- It's a blue dress.
- Blue.
- Blue.
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Answer the question, please.
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Well, I have a lot of clothes,
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and so I don't usually
dry-clean things
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until I'm going
to wear them again.
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Like, I don't know
how you guys are,
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but you have clothes
to dry-clean
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and you kind of keep them
in your closet until you
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dry-clean them all together
when you need them.
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And now I feel like
I'm talking about
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dry-cleaning too much and
the process around dry-cleaning.
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Anyway, with that dress...
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I was going to wear it again
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and when I told Linda that,
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she told me
I looked heavy in it.
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Um, so I-I never
ended up wearing it again.
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Ergo I never cleaned it.
Does that answer your question?
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Ms. Lewinsky, did your mother
ever discourage
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your relationship
with the president?
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Oh, yes.
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Well, then, what kept it going?
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I fell in love.
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I have a question.
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You said you felt you were in
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a real relationship.
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A real connection.
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- Yes.
- With this married man.
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- Yes.
- It's been in the papers
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you had a relationship before.
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Similar to this, a married man.
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The way Kate and Andy Bleiler
made it seem on TV,
258
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it's-it's not entirely accurate.
259
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I-If that's the part
that you're, um...
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The only part I know is that
261
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he was a married man
and had a family.
262
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Yes.
263
00:15:31,664 --> 00:15:33,933
Like I know about the president.
264
00:15:35,235 --> 00:15:38,738
We're asked to trust
your version of events,
265
00:15:38,838 --> 00:15:41,274
but it seems you arrived
in D.C. and sought out
266
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a-an affair based on deception
and lies.
267
00:15:46,746 --> 00:15:49,116
Did you not believe that
this was wrong?
268
00:15:53,353 --> 00:15:55,122
My intention...
269
00:15:56,623 --> 00:15:59,126
...when I came to Washington
was to start over.
270
00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,595
I did not want
to have another affair
271
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with a married man
because it was horrible.
272
00:16:04,764 --> 00:16:07,034
And I don't know
why I did it again.
273
00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:10,103
I just know that I did it again.
274
00:16:10,270 --> 00:16:12,105
(sighs)
275
00:16:12,272 --> 00:16:14,774
And I know a lot of...
a lot of people think that
276
00:16:14,907 --> 00:16:16,976
that's wrong, and so do I.
277
00:16:17,110 --> 00:16:21,948
I know there's a lot of work
I need to do on myself.
278
00:16:23,950 --> 00:16:26,119
I just feel I had to ask
the question because
279
00:16:26,253 --> 00:16:27,620
a lot of us are confused.
280
00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,456
- I'm not.
- No need to be rude.
281
00:16:29,589 --> 00:16:31,291
Oh, it's okay.
282
00:16:31,391 --> 00:16:32,792
In a way, I really,
I really appreciate
283
00:16:32,925 --> 00:16:34,294
you asking me
where I'm coming from,
284
00:16:34,427 --> 00:16:37,130
'cause most people just assume
when it comes to me, so...
285
00:16:37,230 --> 00:16:40,633
Um, I really respect
your question
286
00:16:40,767 --> 00:16:42,635
and I-I appreciate
what you're saying.
287
00:16:43,636 --> 00:16:44,804
Whatever your name is.
288
00:16:44,971 --> 00:16:46,573
Oh, Ms. Lewinsky...
289
00:16:46,639 --> 00:16:49,309
Can you, can you guys
call me Monica?
290
00:16:49,409 --> 00:16:51,010
Are-are they allowed
to call me Monica?
291
00:16:51,144 --> 00:16:52,479
If you say so.
292
00:16:54,847 --> 00:16:56,149
Sure.
293
00:16:56,249 --> 00:16:59,152
I'm just 25. Please.
(chuckles)
294
00:16:59,252 --> 00:17:03,423
But you'll be Ms. Lewinsky
whether you're 25 or 28 or...
295
00:17:03,490 --> 00:17:06,493
- Not when I get married.
-(laughter)
296
00:17:06,593 --> 00:17:10,663
Monica, do you
still love the president?
297
00:17:16,536 --> 00:17:19,672
The day they held me
at the Ritz,
298
00:17:19,772 --> 00:17:23,376
they wanted me to turn on him.
299
00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:25,512
I said no.
300
00:17:25,612 --> 00:17:28,515
I-I did not want to do anything
to let him get hurt.
301
00:17:28,648 --> 00:17:30,517
And then when this all came out,
302
00:17:30,650 --> 00:17:32,685
the-the people that
worked for him,
303
00:17:32,819 --> 00:17:34,621
they trashed me.
304
00:17:34,721 --> 00:17:36,223
They claim that they haven't,
305
00:17:36,356 --> 00:17:39,359
but they call me a stalker.
They called me a liar.
306
00:17:39,492 --> 00:17:43,463
They say I'm inappropriate.
I mean, you all know. (sighs)
307
00:17:44,897 --> 00:17:47,200
And then he makes this speech.
308
00:17:48,468 --> 00:17:50,703
And he says...
309
00:17:50,837 --> 00:17:53,039
He makes it seem like...
310
00:17:53,140 --> 00:17:55,242
all that he cares about is
how unfair all of this
311
00:17:55,375 --> 00:17:57,410
- has been to him.
- Mm.
312
00:17:59,045 --> 00:18:02,315
So to-- sorry--
to answer your question, um...
313
00:18:05,252 --> 00:18:07,220
...it turns out he's not
who I thought he was.
314
00:18:07,354 --> 00:18:09,756
Monica, about that day
you just mentioned
315
00:18:09,889 --> 00:18:11,724
when you were approached
by Mr. Emmick
316
00:18:11,858 --> 00:18:14,661
and the OIC, can you tell us
a little bit about that?
317
00:18:14,761 --> 00:18:16,229
Oh, um...
318
00:18:16,363 --> 00:18:19,166
If I could ask,
uh, what areas are you
319
00:18:19,266 --> 00:18:20,667
wanting to get into?
320
00:18:20,767 --> 00:18:23,903
Because we're already
tight for time and, uh,
321
00:18:24,036 --> 00:18:25,405
well, you know, there were...
322
00:18:25,538 --> 00:18:27,440
many hours of activity.
323
00:18:27,574 --> 00:18:29,409
Just want to know
about that day.
324
00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:33,446
Okay, well, how about we
table that for now...
325
00:18:33,580 --> 00:18:36,749
- No, I want to hear about that.
- We should be able
to hear about that day.
326
00:18:36,849 --> 00:18:38,117
MALE JUROR:
Let her talk. Why not?
327
00:18:38,251 --> 00:18:40,587
OTHERS:
Let her talk.
328
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,089
All right, go ahead.
329
00:18:44,424 --> 00:18:46,293
So, you were approached
in the food court
330
00:18:46,426 --> 00:18:48,595
at Pentagon City
by two FBI agents.
331
00:18:48,761 --> 00:18:50,930
Linda Tripp had lied
to get you there. Is that right?
332
00:18:51,030 --> 00:18:52,432
Uh, yes.
333
00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:55,302
And then they proceeded
to take you up to a hotel room.
334
00:18:55,435 --> 00:18:57,270
Why didn't you
ask for your lawyer?
335
00:18:58,605 --> 00:18:59,972
I did.
336
00:19:01,608 --> 00:19:04,110
But they told me
I was in trouble and that
337
00:19:04,277 --> 00:19:06,946
I wouldn't be able to help
myself with my attorney present,
338
00:19:07,046 --> 00:19:08,948
so I just did what they said.
339
00:19:09,115 --> 00:19:12,118
It was the FBI
and I was really scared.
340
00:19:12,219 --> 00:19:14,053
What happened
when you got up there?
341
00:19:21,127 --> 00:19:24,397
(sighs) S-Sorry.
342
00:19:25,465 --> 00:19:28,635
Would it be okay--
uh, can you step out?
343
00:19:31,170 --> 00:19:34,140
Karin can take over
from here, right?
344
00:19:34,241 --> 00:19:36,343
Karin can take over.
345
00:19:36,476 --> 00:19:37,810
Karin can stay.
346
00:19:41,981 --> 00:19:43,816
(sighs)
347
00:19:47,019 --> 00:19:48,988
(whispers indistinctly)
348
00:19:50,990 --> 00:19:53,826
-(clears throat)
-(door opens)
349
00:19:53,926 --> 00:19:55,662
EMMICK:
Thank you.
350
00:20:04,003 --> 00:20:07,440
They said if I called my lawyer,
I wouldn't be offered immunity.
351
00:20:07,507 --> 00:20:09,842
Did you feel threatened by that?
352
00:20:10,777 --> 00:20:13,179
Did they offer you a chance
to call another attorney?
353
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,881
They suggested one.
354
00:20:15,014 --> 00:20:16,849
FEMALE JUROR:
Did you take them up on that?
355
00:20:16,983 --> 00:20:19,018
- No.
- Why not?
356
00:20:19,118 --> 00:20:21,888
- Because I didn't trust them.
- Hmm.
357
00:20:22,021 --> 00:20:24,457
It sounds as though they
were actively discouraging you
358
00:20:24,557 --> 00:20:26,393
from talking to an attorney.
359
00:20:26,526 --> 00:20:28,361
Well, from talking
to Frank Carter.
360
00:20:28,461 --> 00:20:31,298
Yes, Frank Carter,
my only attorney.
361
00:20:32,965 --> 00:20:34,701
Are we due for
a ten-minute break?
362
00:20:35,702 --> 00:20:36,969
No, ma'am.
363
00:20:37,069 --> 00:20:39,138
(footsteps approaching)
364
00:20:49,081 --> 00:20:51,984
It lasted about 12 hours
in total.
365
00:20:52,051 --> 00:20:54,821
FEMALE JUROR (softly):
My God. Wow.
366
00:20:54,921 --> 00:20:57,824
And they told me over
and over that I was free
367
00:20:57,924 --> 00:20:59,592
to leave, but I didn't.
368
00:21:02,395 --> 00:21:04,431
I didn't understand
because they also said
369
00:21:04,564 --> 00:21:07,066
they were prepared
to indict me and I could
370
00:21:07,166 --> 00:21:10,102
spend up to 28 years in prison
and that they would
371
00:21:10,236 --> 00:21:14,240
prosecute my mother if I didn't
help them, you know? So...
372
00:21:14,341 --> 00:21:17,444
I was, uh, confused and, uh...
373
00:21:17,577 --> 00:21:19,078
FEMALE JUROR:
Were you angry?
374
00:21:22,248 --> 00:21:25,084
(sniffles)
Yes, mostly at myself.
375
00:21:25,184 --> 00:21:27,253
For ending up in this situation.
376
00:21:29,956 --> 00:21:32,792
And for putting the president
at risk.
377
00:21:32,925 --> 00:21:34,193
And...
378
00:21:36,363 --> 00:21:40,266
And-and for, uh,
doing this to my family.
379
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,870
Monica, they set you in a trap.
380
00:21:43,936 --> 00:21:45,872
- Mm-hmm.
- It's what they do.
381
00:21:45,938 --> 00:21:47,940
Monica, is there anything else
you'd like to add
382
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,275
to your testimony?
383
00:21:49,376 --> 00:21:51,478
We want to give you
the fullest opportunity.
384
00:21:52,479 --> 00:21:54,547
Um...
385
00:21:54,614 --> 00:21:57,049
Uh...
386
00:21:57,116 --> 00:21:58,885
(sighs)
387
00:21:58,951 --> 00:22:03,623
I guess I want to say
that no one asked me to lie.
388
00:22:03,790 --> 00:22:06,493
And I was never
promised a job for my silence.
389
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,462
Mostly I'm sorry.
390
00:22:10,963 --> 00:22:13,299
I'm really sorry for
everything that happened.
391
00:22:17,804 --> 00:22:20,306
- And I hate Linda Tripp.
-(laughter)
392
00:22:20,407 --> 00:22:22,008
FEMALE JUROR:
I know that's right.
393
00:22:22,141 --> 00:22:24,310
- FEMALE JUROR 2: Forget her.
-(others assenting)
394
00:22:24,477 --> 00:22:28,147
- What goes around comes around.
- FEMALE JUROR 3: It does.
395
00:22:37,857 --> 00:22:39,492
I am going to go in
and remove some
396
00:22:39,592 --> 00:22:42,161
extra cartilage
and bone right here.
397
00:22:42,261 --> 00:22:44,330
Then I'm going to go ahead
and pull the skin
398
00:22:44,431 --> 00:22:46,666
off of the issue so I can
chisel that bump down.
399
00:22:46,833 --> 00:22:50,002
Then we fracture it
so that we can close the roof,
400
00:22:50,102 --> 00:22:52,004
much the same way
you would on a house.
401
00:22:52,171 --> 00:22:53,172
Does that make sense?
402
00:22:53,339 --> 00:22:55,007
Um...
403
00:22:55,107 --> 00:22:56,443
Yeah.
404
00:22:56,509 --> 00:22:59,178
Dr. Loeb does wonderful work.
405
00:22:59,345 --> 00:23:01,013
Oh, thanks.
Okay, I'm going to go ahead
406
00:23:01,147 --> 00:23:03,349
and step out
and do my final prep.
407
00:23:03,483 --> 00:23:05,284
I'll see you in there.
408
00:23:05,351 --> 00:23:07,119
Okay.
409
00:23:08,521 --> 00:23:10,690
(exhales)
410
00:23:10,790 --> 00:23:13,893
- Where's Steve?
- Oh, he didn't want to come.
411
00:23:14,026 --> 00:23:17,964
Is he still in a funk
about losing his job?
412
00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:19,866
Gosh, yes, he's...
413
00:23:19,999 --> 00:23:23,870
blaming my case and says
the airline fired him because of
414
00:23:23,970 --> 00:23:26,038
pressure from Clinton,
but, Susie,
415
00:23:26,172 --> 00:23:29,141
he wouldn't work the hours
that they wanted him to.
416
00:23:29,208 --> 00:23:30,910
I think that's all that it is.
417
00:23:31,043 --> 00:23:32,479
Well, did you tell him that?
418
00:23:33,980 --> 00:23:36,048
He won't listen to me.
(scoffs)
419
00:23:36,148 --> 00:23:38,718
(takes deep breath)
420
00:23:38,818 --> 00:23:41,087
Hey. You nervous?
421
00:23:41,220 --> 00:23:44,090
I'm just glad that
people'll stop making fun
422
00:23:44,223 --> 00:23:45,925
of my big ol' awful nose.
423
00:23:54,767 --> 00:23:56,402
(engine turns off)
424
00:23:56,503 --> 00:23:57,670
(gate creaks)
425
00:24:35,775 --> 00:24:37,777
♪
426
00:24:58,665 --> 00:25:01,300
♪
427
00:25:11,477 --> 00:25:13,479
-(playing lively tune)
-(rhythmic clapping)
428
00:25:26,158 --> 00:25:28,828
(cheering)
429
00:25:31,764 --> 00:25:35,935
HILLARY:
I'm told there is a Russian
children's verse that says,
430
00:25:36,002 --> 00:25:39,505
"What do we plant
when we plant a new wood?
431
00:25:39,606 --> 00:25:43,509
Boats in which waves
can safely be withstood."
432
00:25:43,610 --> 00:25:47,013
In both our nations,
music education is that
433
00:25:47,113 --> 00:25:49,348
sturdy boat that lifts us up,
434
00:25:49,481 --> 00:25:53,185
that carries our unique cultural
treasures into the future.
435
00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:56,789
And now, it is my honor to
introduce to you Bill Clinton,
436
00:25:56,889 --> 00:26:00,226
- president of the United States.
-(applause)
437
00:26:13,072 --> 00:26:15,742
Mr. President, Mr. Bowles
said you wanted this list...
438
00:26:15,875 --> 00:26:18,077
I know what it is. Thanks.
439
00:26:26,218 --> 00:26:28,554
Betty, would you ask
the first lady to come see me?
440
00:26:28,655 --> 00:26:30,222
BETTY:
Right away, sir.
441
00:26:50,076 --> 00:26:51,577
(knocking on door)
442
00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:55,514
You wanted to see me?
443
00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:58,017
I wanted to say something.
444
00:27:02,755 --> 00:27:03,956
(door closes)
445
00:27:08,795 --> 00:27:12,098
25 years, you're the one
opinion I give a shit about.
446
00:27:13,532 --> 00:27:17,269
Most men of our age, they...
they find their wives so dull
447
00:27:17,436 --> 00:27:20,372
they cringe
when she talks at dinner.
448
00:27:20,439 --> 00:27:22,709
I pity those men.
449
00:27:22,775 --> 00:27:25,111
They don't have what I do.
450
00:27:29,615 --> 00:27:33,119
I gave in to
a disgusting impulse.
451
00:27:33,252 --> 00:27:35,888
Because I didn't know
how to walk down the hall
452
00:27:35,955 --> 00:27:38,390
and say to my best friend
453
00:27:38,457 --> 00:27:40,727
that this job is lonely
454
00:27:40,793 --> 00:27:42,962
and I'm worn to the bone...
455
00:27:44,163 --> 00:27:46,565
...and I'm dead inside
half the time.
456
00:27:48,467 --> 00:27:50,136
There's been hell raining
down on us
457
00:27:50,236 --> 00:27:52,638
from the day we walked
into this place.
458
00:27:52,739 --> 00:27:54,974
You know, every move
we make-- the right,
459
00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:57,309
the press, they seize,
attack and drag us
460
00:27:57,409 --> 00:27:59,979
through the streets
over nothing.
461
00:28:00,079 --> 00:28:03,649
And I know it's stupid, but when
Newt shuts down the government,
462
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:06,152
and Starr has slithered
into our lives
463
00:28:06,252 --> 00:28:08,988
to look for malfeasance
in every line of every receipt
464
00:28:09,155 --> 00:28:11,157
of every piddly thing
we've ever bought,
465
00:28:11,257 --> 00:28:13,826
I thought I had to be
strong for us.
466
00:28:13,993 --> 00:28:16,328
And instead, I fucked it all up.
467
00:28:18,831 --> 00:28:20,833
♪
468
00:28:25,838 --> 00:28:28,174
When it first came out,
I was so ashamed I wanted to
469
00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:30,276
crawl in a hole and disappear.
470
00:28:33,179 --> 00:28:35,848
I couldn't bear what I'd done
to you and Chelsea.
471
00:28:37,616 --> 00:28:40,686
I couldn't face telling you,
I just couldn't.
472
00:28:42,855 --> 00:28:45,457
So I made it worse and I lied.
473
00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:58,304
Everything good in my life
comes out of us together.
474
00:29:02,241 --> 00:29:04,811
I don't know who I am
without you.
475
00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:09,048
I know you said you
didn't care why it happened.
476
00:29:09,181 --> 00:29:11,383
But I wanted you to know.
477
00:29:17,323 --> 00:29:18,590
Is that all?
478
00:29:18,724 --> 00:29:20,259
No.
479
00:29:20,392 --> 00:29:21,894
I love you.
480
00:29:22,929 --> 00:29:24,596
That's all.
481
00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:35,441
(door closes)
482
00:29:42,281 --> 00:29:44,450
- Mom?
- Busy.
483
00:29:44,583 --> 00:29:45,852
There's all this stuff in here.
484
00:29:45,952 --> 00:29:47,119
I didn't know that
you were arrested.
485
00:29:47,253 --> 00:29:48,754
It was a teen prank.
486
00:29:48,888 --> 00:29:50,923
Some boys put things in
my purse as a joke.
487
00:29:51,057 --> 00:29:52,624
Okay, but this part
about your dad--
488
00:29:52,758 --> 00:29:54,626
I mean, you don't talk about him
my entire life and I have
489
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,429
no idea why until someone
writes an article about it.
490
00:30:09,775 --> 00:30:11,610
Oh, my God.
491
00:30:17,483 --> 00:30:19,451
Jesus Christ.
492
00:30:22,454 --> 00:30:24,623
- Unbelievable.
- What?
493
00:30:24,790 --> 00:30:26,458
None of this
is what I asked for.
494
00:30:26,558 --> 00:30:29,295
They know what I need
to do my job and they...
495
00:30:29,428 --> 00:30:32,464
they send me a completely
useless pile of paper.
496
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:35,734
And look at the shape it's in.
497
00:30:39,005 --> 00:30:40,806
(scoffs softly)
498
00:30:43,009 --> 00:30:44,143
This is a message.
499
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:47,313
Could just be one
of the lazier secretaries.
500
00:30:49,648 --> 00:30:50,983
Bring my purse.
501
00:30:56,322 --> 00:30:58,524
(quiet chatter)
502
00:30:58,657 --> 00:31:01,493
- Oh, my God.
- Linda,
503
00:31:01,593 --> 00:31:03,195
I didn't know
you were coming in.
504
00:31:03,329 --> 00:31:05,097
I need to see Ken.
505
00:31:13,672 --> 00:31:16,175
- Excuse me.
- I work here.
506
00:31:16,275 --> 00:31:17,509
Uh...
507
00:31:19,611 --> 00:31:22,514
No, I have to go.
Okay, it's just-- Leave us.
508
00:31:22,648 --> 00:31:25,184
Linda, you know you
cannot just...
509
00:31:25,284 --> 00:31:26,852
Did you oversee
and approve this shipment?
510
00:31:26,986 --> 00:31:28,387
- What?
- It's a simple question.
511
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,790
Did you oversee
and approve this shipment?
512
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:34,293
- I can't say that I have any...
- Because I asked
for the basic materials
513
00:31:34,393 --> 00:31:36,895
I need to do my job
and what I got
514
00:31:37,029 --> 00:31:39,631
was random printed
email traffic.
515
00:31:39,731 --> 00:31:43,635
Some JCOC participant list
thrown violently into a box.
516
00:31:43,735 --> 00:31:46,372
- Linda.
- This is chilling.
517
00:31:46,505 --> 00:31:50,076
This is veiled hostility
from my colleagues,
518
00:31:50,209 --> 00:31:51,410
simply because
I'm a cooperating witness
519
00:31:51,543 --> 00:31:52,979
in a federal investigation.
520
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:54,813
I'm sure it was
just an honest mistake.
521
00:31:54,913 --> 00:31:57,483
- We are past that, Ken.
- Listen.
522
00:31:57,549 --> 00:31:59,551
Just write down exactly
what you need
523
00:31:59,651 --> 00:32:01,920
- and then we...
- What I need
524
00:32:02,054 --> 00:32:05,257
is to come here like normal
and do my work.
525
00:32:05,391 --> 00:32:07,593
And I do not doubt that
you'll be able to do that soon,
526
00:32:07,726 --> 00:32:08,660
and that things
will settle down,
527
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,896
but DOD just opened this
investigation
528
00:32:10,997 --> 00:32:12,231
- and until we...
- What?
529
00:32:13,432 --> 00:32:14,600
What investigation?
530
00:32:16,102 --> 00:32:17,336
(clears throat softly)
531
00:32:18,604 --> 00:32:20,239
They'll be contacting you.
532
00:32:20,372 --> 00:32:21,740
When you were hired,
533
00:32:21,873 --> 00:32:26,078
you affirmed on your DD 398 that
you had never been arrested.
534
00:32:26,212 --> 00:32:27,579
Now, The New Yorker
has come out...
535
00:32:27,713 --> 00:32:29,081
It was a teen prank!
536
00:32:29,215 --> 00:32:31,283
- Linda...
- On me!
537
00:32:33,285 --> 00:32:34,753
The charges were dropped.
538
00:32:34,886 --> 00:32:38,290
Linda, you cannot lie
to the Department of Defense
539
00:32:38,424 --> 00:32:40,126
on a security clearance form.
540
00:32:40,259 --> 00:32:42,528
That is a serious crime.
541
00:32:43,595 --> 00:32:45,097
I see.
542
00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:48,434
I see now.
543
00:32:49,435 --> 00:32:50,602
You see what?
544
00:32:50,736 --> 00:32:53,439
They're really coming after me.
545
00:32:53,539 --> 00:32:55,607
Okay, well...
546
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,715
(knocking on door)
547
00:33:10,989 --> 00:33:13,292
Good afternoon, ma'am.
I'm Special Agent Irons
548
00:33:13,425 --> 00:33:15,127
with the Federal Bureau
of Investigation.
549
00:33:15,294 --> 00:33:16,962
This is Special Agent Fallon.
550
00:33:17,063 --> 00:33:19,298
FALLON: Do you have
a moment to speak with us?
551
00:33:23,969 --> 00:33:25,304
Thank you, ma'am.
552
00:33:25,404 --> 00:33:26,805
We're detailed with the Office
553
00:33:26,905 --> 00:33:28,807
of Independent Counsel
Kenneth Starr.
554
00:33:28,907 --> 00:33:30,809
Perhaps you've seen
Judge Starr on the news.
555
00:33:30,909 --> 00:33:33,512
Well, he's finishing up
his investigation,
556
00:33:33,645 --> 00:33:35,481
preparing to
make a report to Congress.
557
00:33:35,581 --> 00:33:37,483
We're just here following up
on some threads.
558
00:33:37,649 --> 00:33:40,186
Ma'am, as you may know,
the president and others
559
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:42,688
are in legal peril because
of false affidavits
560
00:33:42,821 --> 00:33:44,490
filed in the Paula Jones
lawsuit.
561
00:33:44,656 --> 00:33:46,858
We're just dotting our i's,
Ms. Broaddrick. You understand.
562
00:33:46,992 --> 00:33:50,329
FALLON:
Now, here is
your Jones affidavit.
563
00:33:50,496 --> 00:33:52,498
You swore this
a few months back.
564
00:33:52,598 --> 00:33:54,500
Here, you state that
President Bill Clinton
565
00:33:54,666 --> 00:33:57,669
never made any unwanted
sexual advances toward you.
566
00:33:57,769 --> 00:34:01,273
Ma'am, were you being truthful
when you signed your name
567
00:34:01,340 --> 00:34:03,008
to this statement?
568
00:34:16,888 --> 00:34:18,224
-(door closes)
- PAULA: I don't...
569
00:34:18,357 --> 00:34:19,858
I don't get it.
570
00:34:21,193 --> 00:34:23,129
Okay. Thank you. Bye.
571
00:34:24,130 --> 00:34:26,232
(sighs)
How was your audition?
572
00:34:26,365 --> 00:34:28,134
It sucked.
573
00:34:28,234 --> 00:34:32,371
- Who was that?
- The lawyers. They said...
574
00:34:33,805 --> 00:34:35,574
...the judge did
a summary judgment.
575
00:34:35,707 --> 00:34:38,210
Mm. What is that?
576
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:40,312
It's... it's bad.
577
00:34:40,379 --> 00:34:44,216
It means that
she threw out the case.
578
00:34:45,317 --> 00:34:46,885
The Supreme Court said
you had a case.
579
00:34:47,018 --> 00:34:50,088
But now the judge
says I don't, so I...
580
00:34:50,222 --> 00:34:51,823
I guess it's over.
581
00:34:51,923 --> 00:34:55,327
What? What-what do we get?
How much money we get?
582
00:34:55,427 --> 00:34:57,763
Well, that's what
I'm saying. Um...
583
00:34:57,896 --> 00:35:00,266
It's nothing.
We get nothing.
584
00:35:00,399 --> 00:35:01,900
- The fuck?!
- I know.
585
00:35:02,033 --> 00:35:04,102
- I know, I need to call Susie.
- Oh, yeah, great idea.
586
00:35:04,236 --> 00:35:06,272
Smart. She always
makes things better.
587
00:35:06,405 --> 00:35:08,607
- Steve, don't.
- No, no, we need to go back
588
00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:09,775
and we need to
take Clinton's deal.
589
00:35:09,908 --> 00:35:11,076
I wanted that money.
590
00:35:11,210 --> 00:35:14,913
What?
No, no, but you and Susie
591
00:35:15,013 --> 00:35:17,082
told me that
I shouldn't take it, so...
592
00:35:17,216 --> 00:35:20,452
I don't wanna hear
your fucking voice.
593
00:35:20,586 --> 00:35:22,588
Wait, but that is not fair
because I-- gosh,
594
00:35:22,721 --> 00:35:25,591
I only ever started doing this
'cause you wanted me to.
595
00:35:25,691 --> 00:35:28,427
I-I did... I did all this
for you.
596
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,129
You sound pretty stupid
right now with your face
597
00:35:31,263 --> 00:35:33,432
all broken from a nose job.
598
00:35:33,532 --> 00:35:36,101
Because I got a bad nose,
599
00:35:36,202 --> 00:35:38,304
which I didn't even know I had
600
00:35:38,437 --> 00:35:40,939
until you made me do this
and be on TV
601
00:35:41,106 --> 00:35:44,443
and people laughed at me, but...
602
00:35:44,543 --> 00:35:47,112
but I did it, like I always
do what you say.
603
00:35:47,246 --> 00:35:48,980
You think I liked
moving to California,
604
00:35:49,114 --> 00:35:50,449
where I've never seen
so many people
605
00:35:50,549 --> 00:35:52,117
who smile while they hate you
606
00:35:52,251 --> 00:35:53,952
and it makes my skin
fucking crawl
607
00:35:54,085 --> 00:35:56,288
and it's sunny all day
and it's...
608
00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:58,123
You think it'll be better
if we move home,
609
00:35:58,224 --> 00:36:00,792
where everyone knows exactly
who you are and what you did?
610
00:36:00,959 --> 00:36:02,628
What do you mean, "what I did"?
611
00:36:06,298 --> 00:36:07,799
What do you mean?
612
00:36:10,135 --> 00:36:13,639
Say it. Say it, Steve.
613
00:36:16,842 --> 00:36:18,644
You think I did it.
614
00:36:18,744 --> 00:36:21,647
You think I went up there
and I gave him a blow job.
615
00:36:25,351 --> 00:36:27,819
Yeah, okay, okay.
616
00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:32,491
I can take this from Jay Leno
617
00:36:32,591 --> 00:36:37,028
and people laughing at me
at Vons, but...
618
00:36:37,162 --> 00:36:38,997
from you?
619
00:36:39,097 --> 00:36:40,999
You're supposed to believe me!
620
00:36:41,099 --> 00:36:45,170
We are fighting to show people
that he did me wrong!
621
00:36:45,337 --> 00:36:47,839
And... (laughing)
622
00:36:47,939 --> 00:36:49,841
And in reality,
all-all this is--
623
00:36:49,941 --> 00:36:52,344
all the press conferences
and all the magazines
624
00:36:52,478 --> 00:36:54,346
and-and the TV shows
625
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,449
and the lawyers and more lawyers
and more lawyers--
626
00:36:57,549 --> 00:37:01,287
it's just me trying to get you
to believe me!
627
00:37:01,353 --> 00:37:06,525
Which we both know you
never did, so you know what?
628
00:37:06,658 --> 00:37:09,628
If you want to say I'm stupid,
well, fuck you!
629
00:37:09,695 --> 00:37:12,298
But most of all,
if I'm stupid on one thing,
630
00:37:12,364 --> 00:37:13,865
it was believing that
you were any more
631
00:37:13,999 --> 00:37:17,303
than a chickenshit asshole
who cared about me at all!
632
00:37:19,471 --> 00:37:21,139
(panting through nose)
633
00:37:29,481 --> 00:37:32,050
Oh, you think
I'm gonna ask you to stay?!
634
00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:36,388
(door slams)
635
00:37:39,558 --> 00:37:41,893
EMMICK:
Okay, it's pretty simple.
636
00:37:41,993 --> 00:37:44,262
You listen to all of
these tapes. After each one,
637
00:37:44,396 --> 00:37:46,598
you sign the tape,
as well as sign
638
00:37:46,732 --> 00:37:47,933
and date those documents,
639
00:37:48,066 --> 00:37:51,236
confirming that the voices
are you and Linda Tripp.
640
00:37:51,337 --> 00:37:52,738
I have to listen
to all of these?
641
00:37:52,871 --> 00:37:54,573
They're all evidence.
642
00:37:54,673 --> 00:37:56,742
Karin here will sit in with you.
643
00:37:56,842 --> 00:37:58,944
I would, but I gotta get
to the courthouse.
644
00:37:59,077 --> 00:38:01,347
What's happening
at the courthouse?
645
00:38:05,584 --> 00:38:08,086
FOREWOMAN:
Do you, Linda R. Tripp,
swear to tell the truth,
646
00:38:08,219 --> 00:38:10,789
the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth, so help you God?
647
00:38:10,922 --> 00:38:12,290
I do.
648
00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:17,929
You ready?
649
00:38:21,533 --> 00:38:23,935
-MONICA: Hi.
- LINDA: Hi.
650
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:26,438
How are you?
651
00:38:28,106 --> 00:38:31,443
EMMICK:
Uh, now, with
Mr. Wisenberg's assistance,
652
00:38:31,543 --> 00:38:33,278
I'd like to read to you
653
00:38:33,445 --> 00:38:36,782
what the grand jury
has come to know as Tape 11.
654
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:40,886
You have a, uh,
transcript there.
655
00:38:40,952 --> 00:38:42,654
(clears throat)
Okay.
656
00:38:44,623 --> 00:38:46,792
"Linda, I got the creep a tie.
657
00:38:46,958 --> 00:38:48,960
It was 20 bucks at Marshalls."
658
00:38:49,127 --> 00:38:50,962
"Oh, good, who makes it?"
659
00:38:51,129 --> 00:38:53,164
"Calvin Klein.
It's gorgeous, Linda."
660
00:38:53,298 --> 00:38:55,467
"Yeah, Marshalls generally,
661
00:38:55,601 --> 00:38:57,503
every now and then,
you can hit."
662
00:38:57,636 --> 00:39:00,639
EMMICK:
"It's really different from all
the other ones I've given him.
663
00:39:00,772 --> 00:39:02,641
"I'm putting a note with it.
664
00:39:02,741 --> 00:39:04,075
I wrote such a funny card
to him."
665
00:39:04,142 --> 00:39:05,477
WISENBERG:
Linda Tripp laughs.
666
00:39:05,577 --> 00:39:06,812
-(Linda laughs)
- MONICA: I said, "This tie will
667
00:39:06,978 --> 00:39:09,180
"look good with either
a taupe or navy suit
668
00:39:09,314 --> 00:39:10,682
"and a white
or a light blue shirt.
669
00:39:10,816 --> 00:39:13,419
-That is, if you like it."
- LINDA: Mm-hmm.
670
00:39:13,485 --> 00:39:15,020
"And then do you know
what I wrote?
671
00:39:15,153 --> 00:39:18,990
"I said, 'And just think,
now you can pay homage to me
672
00:39:19,157 --> 00:39:22,260
"if you want by having
a work week in which you
673
00:39:22,327 --> 00:39:24,095
wear one of my ties every day.'"
674
00:39:24,162 --> 00:39:25,431
Linda Tripp laughs.
675
00:39:25,497 --> 00:39:27,365
Ms. Lewinsky laughs.
676
00:39:27,499 --> 00:39:29,435
-(Monica laughs)
- LINDA: 'Cause this
is the fifth one, right?
677
00:39:29,501 --> 00:39:31,269
You have to give him one
for the weekend days, too.
678
00:39:31,336 --> 00:39:34,673
"That's what I want.
That's my fantasy.
679
00:39:34,773 --> 00:39:38,343
To have the creep
wear one of my ties every day."
680
00:39:39,344 --> 00:39:43,214
Um, Ms. Tripp,
who was the creep?
681
00:39:43,348 --> 00:39:44,850
(chuckles softly)
682
00:39:47,018 --> 00:39:49,455
The president
of the United States.
683
00:39:49,521 --> 00:39:53,024
EMMICK:
Was this typical
of the sort of subject
684
00:39:53,124 --> 00:39:54,860
you and Monica Lewinsky
would discuss?
685
00:39:54,993 --> 00:39:57,896
Yes, we almost
never talked about anything
686
00:39:58,029 --> 00:40:00,298
aside from the president.
(scoffs)
687
00:40:00,365 --> 00:40:02,868
She shared a lot of intimate
details with you, did she not?
688
00:40:05,036 --> 00:40:06,304
She did.
689
00:40:06,371 --> 00:40:07,573
MONICA (crying):
I was upset before,
690
00:40:07,706 --> 00:40:09,541
but not like I am now.
691
00:40:09,641 --> 00:40:11,042
LINDA:
Oh, man.
692
00:40:11,142 --> 00:40:12,978
MONICA:
It's too much for one person.
693
00:40:13,078 --> 00:40:15,481
LINDA:
Oh, it is too much
for one person.
694
00:40:15,581 --> 00:40:16,548
Yes, it is.
695
00:40:16,682 --> 00:40:19,250
EMMICK:
Moving into November 1997.
696
00:40:19,384 --> 00:40:23,421
Is it fair to say that
Ms. Lewinsky was increasingly
697
00:40:23,555 --> 00:40:25,757
distraught on her calls with you?
698
00:40:25,891 --> 00:40:29,595
Yes, she was obsessed with
the president's lack of contact.
699
00:40:29,728 --> 00:40:33,431
And what typically would happen
when she tried to make contact?
700
00:40:33,565 --> 00:40:36,502
She would call Betty Currie
and then call me
701
00:40:36,602 --> 00:40:37,936
to tell me she called Betty.
702
00:40:38,069 --> 00:40:39,404
And then, if Betty hadn't
gotten back to her
703
00:40:39,505 --> 00:40:41,507
within an hour,
she would get angry
704
00:40:41,607 --> 00:40:44,009
and call Betty again,
then call me again.
705
00:40:44,109 --> 00:40:47,445
Crescendoing to some sort
of nuclear outburst.
706
00:40:47,579 --> 00:40:49,280
Okay, now I'd like to move...
707
00:40:49,414 --> 00:40:52,017
Sorry, can I ask a question?
708
00:40:55,921 --> 00:40:58,256
Did you want Monica
to stop calling you?
709
00:40:58,389 --> 00:41:00,458
Yes.
710
00:41:00,592 --> 00:41:04,462
Her behavior became volatile.
Very erratic.
711
00:41:04,596 --> 00:41:08,433
So why did you not just say,
"Please stop calling me"?
712
00:41:08,534 --> 00:41:11,269
(scoffs)
That's what my kid said.
713
00:41:11,402 --> 00:41:12,270
So why didn't you?
714
00:41:12,437 --> 00:41:15,440
Well, at a,
at a certain point,
715
00:41:15,541 --> 00:41:16,875
you can't unring a bell.
716
00:41:16,942 --> 00:41:19,444
You talk like this was
a grave situation
717
00:41:19,545 --> 00:41:22,213
and harmful for Monica, right?
718
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,783
- Yes, very.
- But earlier
719
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:26,618
we heard you encouraging her
720
00:41:26,718 --> 00:41:28,887
to buy him a tie for each day
of the week.
721
00:41:28,954 --> 00:41:31,557
Well, that...
722
00:41:31,623 --> 00:41:32,958
I was joking.
723
00:41:33,124 --> 00:41:36,227
And when Monica said,
"I got the creep a tie.
724
00:41:36,294 --> 00:41:38,630
It was 20 bucks at Marshalls,"
725
00:41:38,797 --> 00:41:40,732
you replied, "Oh, good."
726
00:41:40,799 --> 00:41:42,568
Well, I was being...
727
00:41:43,735 --> 00:41:45,336
That was more of
a pro-Marshalls.
728
00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:49,407
So, was this a serious situation
or was this a joking matter?
729
00:41:49,474 --> 00:41:51,309
That's one moment
out of context.
730
00:41:51,476 --> 00:41:53,812
Or were you just trying
to keep her talking?
731
00:41:53,912 --> 00:41:56,347
Because by then you were taping.
732
00:41:57,683 --> 00:41:59,150
I prefer to call it documenting.
733
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:00,318
MALE JUROR:
Why did you tape her?
734
00:42:00,485 --> 00:42:02,187
We'll get to that
in just a little bit.
735
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,656
I documented our phone calls
because I knew
736
00:42:04,756 --> 00:42:07,025
- I needed evidence.
- Evidence for what?
737
00:42:08,493 --> 00:42:10,929
Well, for--
so when I came forward...
738
00:42:10,996 --> 00:42:12,931
- But it was a private matter.
- I don't think you comprehend...
739
00:42:12,998 --> 00:42:14,666
It was between Monica
and the president.
740
00:42:14,833 --> 00:42:15,834
No one needed to know.
741
00:42:15,934 --> 00:42:18,503
Actually, this was
a very young staffer
742
00:42:18,604 --> 00:42:21,006
in a workplace with
the most senior official
743
00:42:21,106 --> 00:42:22,841
in that workplace making choices
744
00:42:22,941 --> 00:42:25,677
that were causing her
severe distress.
745
00:42:25,844 --> 00:42:28,013
She told me
on more than one occasion
746
00:42:28,146 --> 00:42:29,447
she wanted to kill herself.
747
00:42:29,547 --> 00:42:33,351
And still, the president
of the United States
748
00:42:33,451 --> 00:42:35,286
used her to meet his needs.
749
00:42:35,353 --> 00:42:39,457
He had total control.
His behavior was unconscionable.
750
00:42:42,460 --> 00:42:44,529
It was an abuse of power.
751
00:42:44,663 --> 00:42:46,698
- Mrs. Tripp...
- I had to end it.
752
00:42:46,832 --> 00:42:48,466
I had to end it.
753
00:42:53,905 --> 00:42:57,643
Mrs. Tripp, when you chose to...
754
00:42:57,743 --> 00:43:01,046
begin documenting Monica,
755
00:43:01,179 --> 00:43:04,249
you were under enormous stress,
correct?
756
00:43:04,382 --> 00:43:06,985
I was terrified.
757
00:43:07,085 --> 00:43:10,488
I knew if I came forward
with no evidence,
758
00:43:10,555 --> 00:43:12,090
they would destroy me.
759
00:43:12,223 --> 00:43:15,060
When you say "they,"
who are you referring to?
760
00:43:15,193 --> 00:43:17,929
(scoffs)
Bill Clinton.
761
00:43:18,063 --> 00:43:20,265
And, uh, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
762
00:43:20,398 --> 00:43:22,233
- Oh, man.
-(others groan)
763
00:43:24,502 --> 00:43:27,172
The president's lawyer
had already made
764
00:43:27,272 --> 00:43:29,607
a defamatory statement
about me in Newsweek.
765
00:43:29,741 --> 00:43:31,743
I was sure I was
going to be subpoenaed
766
00:43:31,877 --> 00:43:33,278
in the Paula Jones case.
767
00:43:33,411 --> 00:43:35,413
I felt, if I told
the truth under oath,
768
00:43:35,513 --> 00:43:37,582
I would lose my job.
769
00:43:37,716 --> 00:43:39,250
Or worse.
770
00:43:39,350 --> 00:43:42,453
You thought if you told the
truth in the Paula Jones case...
771
00:43:42,587 --> 00:43:44,089
I was afraid I wouldn't even
get the chance.
772
00:43:44,189 --> 00:43:46,958
Are you-- are you saying you
thought you would be killed?
773
00:43:47,092 --> 00:43:48,927
Yes.
774
00:43:49,060 --> 00:43:51,296
- Why?
- I have what I consider
775
00:43:51,429 --> 00:43:53,098
well-founded fears
776
00:43:53,198 --> 00:43:55,200
of what this administration
is capable of.
777
00:43:55,266 --> 00:43:57,035
Can you give an example?
778
00:43:57,102 --> 00:43:59,938
I have, uh, reason to believe
779
00:44:00,071 --> 00:44:02,140
that the Vince Foster
tragedy was not
780
00:44:02,273 --> 00:44:05,276
depicted accurately by
members of the administration.
781
00:44:05,410 --> 00:44:08,613
Are you-- are you saying
he didn't commit suicide?
782
00:44:08,780 --> 00:44:11,282
(chuckles)
We will never know.
783
00:44:11,449 --> 00:44:13,451
Mrs. Tripp,
do you have information
784
00:44:13,584 --> 00:44:15,653
about the White House
and the death of Vince Foster?
785
00:44:15,787 --> 00:44:18,790
I'll just say this.
786
00:44:18,957 --> 00:44:21,793
The day after that tragedy,
787
00:44:21,927 --> 00:44:25,463
the behavior I saw in
the West Wing frightened me.
788
00:44:25,630 --> 00:44:28,499
There was a flurry
of activity, boxes
789
00:44:28,633 --> 00:44:30,468
and secrecy behind closed doors.
790
00:44:30,601 --> 00:44:33,138
I was concerned,
and I was alarmed.
791
00:44:33,271 --> 00:44:35,974
Because people were
meeting behind closed doors?
792
00:44:36,074 --> 00:44:40,145
(scoffs) It was far more
ominous than that.
793
00:44:40,245 --> 00:44:42,347
(juror scoffs)
794
00:44:43,348 --> 00:44:46,251
I am telling you,
under oath today,
795
00:44:46,317 --> 00:44:48,653
that I felt threatened.
796
00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:52,991
And I was angry.
And I resented it.
797
00:44:53,158 --> 00:44:55,994
- And still do.
- JUROR: I have a question.
798
00:44:56,161 --> 00:44:58,329
Did you ever think
about what would happen
799
00:44:58,496 --> 00:45:00,766
to Monica
when all this came out?
800
00:45:00,832 --> 00:45:03,334
♪
801
00:45:03,501 --> 00:45:06,337
LINDA: All right,
call me back, you nut.
802
00:45:06,437 --> 00:45:09,674
-MONICA: Ugh. I will, I will.
- Bye.
803
00:45:18,616 --> 00:45:19,851
- Done.
- Your attorney
804
00:45:19,985 --> 00:45:21,186
has a car waiting for you
out back.
805
00:45:21,286 --> 00:45:22,353
If you want, I can...
806
00:45:22,487 --> 00:45:24,389
I know the way.
807
00:45:24,522 --> 00:45:27,893
(door opens, closes)
808
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,530
I thought, uh,
if this became public,
809
00:45:32,663 --> 00:45:35,366
Monica would not be
in any sort of danger.
810
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:37,869
But you said you felt dangers,
both personal
811
00:45:37,969 --> 00:45:39,871
and professional,
could befall you.
812
00:45:39,971 --> 00:45:42,707
What crossed your mind
that would befall Monica?
813
00:45:44,242 --> 00:45:46,377
Uh, what-what would befall her?
814
00:45:46,477 --> 00:45:48,713
JUROR:
Did you have any fears for her?
815
00:45:48,847 --> 00:45:50,715
All these details in the publi.
816
00:45:50,849 --> 00:45:53,551
LINDA: She was...
I-I think I said this.
817
00:45:53,684 --> 00:45:55,486
Uh, she was suicidal.
818
00:45:55,553 --> 00:45:57,055
JUROR 2: You're not
answering her question.
819
00:45:57,155 --> 00:46:02,427
What Monica was going through
was extremely unhealthy.
820
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,595
But you didn't think
it would bring her harm?
821
00:46:06,097 --> 00:46:08,099
Well, not compared to...
822
00:46:10,768 --> 00:46:12,737
- No.
- Why not?
823
00:46:14,572 --> 00:46:15,673
Uh, pardon?
824
00:46:15,773 --> 00:46:18,509
Why would you
not think about her?
825
00:46:18,609 --> 00:46:20,611
♪
826
00:46:21,913 --> 00:46:26,117
I was thinking that she was
in a tremendously bad situation.
827
00:46:26,251 --> 00:46:27,953
(juror scoffs)
828
00:46:28,086 --> 00:46:31,756
And do you feel now she's better
off because of what you did?
829
00:46:31,890 --> 00:46:34,292
Do you feel
her life is better now?
830
00:46:37,095 --> 00:46:38,429
(breath trembles)
831
00:46:43,634 --> 00:46:46,037
- How'd it go?
- Ready, Linda?
832
00:46:47,438 --> 00:46:48,940
You sure?
833
00:46:49,107 --> 00:46:51,042
You don't have
to do this right now.
834
00:47:07,125 --> 00:47:08,459
ZACCAGNINI:
We understand
835
00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:11,062
there is some interest
in hearing from Ms. Tripp.
836
00:47:11,129 --> 00:47:13,664
She will not be taking
any questions today.
837
00:47:13,798 --> 00:47:17,969
She has, however, agreed
to make some brief remarks.
838
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:20,505
(cameras clicking)
839
00:47:21,973 --> 00:47:25,176
Good afternoon.
I'm not a public speaker.
840
00:47:25,310 --> 00:47:27,178
I'm going to have to refer
to my notes.
841
00:47:27,312 --> 00:47:28,313
Please bear with me.
842
00:47:33,484 --> 00:47:36,654
I understand that there's
been a great deal of speculation
843
00:47:36,754 --> 00:47:40,158
about just who I am
and how I got here.
844
00:47:40,258 --> 00:47:42,660
Well, the answer is simple.
845
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,997
I'm you.
I'm just like you.
846
00:47:47,165 --> 00:47:50,501
I'm an average American
who found herself in a situation
847
00:47:50,601 --> 00:47:52,837
not of her own making.
848
00:47:52,938 --> 00:47:55,840
Because I am just like you,
I ask you to imagine how you
849
00:47:55,941 --> 00:47:58,676
would feel if someone
you thought was a friend
850
00:47:58,776 --> 00:48:00,611
urged you to commit a felony.
851
00:48:02,013 --> 00:48:04,782
Imagine how you would feel
if your boss's attorney
852
00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:07,685
called you a liar in front
of the whole country.
853
00:48:08,886 --> 00:48:10,388
And imagine if that boss
854
00:48:10,521 --> 00:48:12,958
was the president
of the United States.
855
00:48:16,027 --> 00:48:19,797
Imagine how you would feel
if your employer demoted you
856
00:48:19,897 --> 00:48:23,568
and cast you aside,
for daring to tell the truth.
857
00:48:27,638 --> 00:48:30,808
Imagine how it would feel to see
the pain in your children's eyes
858
00:48:30,875 --> 00:48:33,411
when they hear
a seemingly endless barrage
859
00:48:33,544 --> 00:48:35,746
of lies about their mother.
860
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,750
A mother who is not
going out to defend herself.
861
00:48:45,590 --> 00:48:48,426
I've been vilified for
taking the path of truth.
862
00:48:49,594 --> 00:48:51,596
I've been maligned
by people who have chosen
863
00:48:51,729 --> 00:48:53,664
not to tell the truth,
864
00:48:53,764 --> 00:48:57,068
and who know they
are not telling the truth.
865
00:48:57,202 --> 00:48:59,004
To cast me in the role
of the villain,
866
00:48:59,104 --> 00:49:01,772
they have enlisted
legions of paid prevaricators.
867
00:49:01,906 --> 00:49:03,774
Not surprisingly, many
from the entertainment industry
868
00:49:03,908 --> 00:49:06,777
have chosen to ridicule me
as well.
869
00:49:07,945 --> 00:49:10,615
Going so far as to even
make fun of my appearance
870
00:49:10,748 --> 00:49:14,285
in a manner so mean and so cruel
that I pray none of you
871
00:49:14,419 --> 00:49:15,853
is ever subjected to it.
872
00:49:17,922 --> 00:49:19,624
Despite all of that,
873
00:49:19,757 --> 00:49:22,793
I bear no malice towards
anyone in this case.
874
00:49:31,769 --> 00:49:33,604
I believe in our country.
875
00:49:34,939 --> 00:49:38,109
As I said, I am no different
than any of you.
876
00:49:38,243 --> 00:49:42,280
I believe you have the right
to tell the truth under oath
877
00:49:42,380 --> 00:49:44,949
without fear
of retribution or worse.
878
00:49:47,052 --> 00:49:50,455
(sighs) I hope that when all
the facts are revealed,
879
00:49:50,555 --> 00:49:52,123
you'll understand that
it is a right
880
00:49:52,290 --> 00:49:54,559
all of us
should be fighting for.
881
00:49:57,295 --> 00:49:58,629
Thank you.
882
00:50:00,898 --> 00:50:02,633
Why did you
betray Monica Lewinsky?
883
00:50:03,801 --> 00:50:04,835
We're not taking any questions.
884
00:50:04,969 --> 00:50:07,072
Linda, do you regret
taping Monica?
885
00:50:07,138 --> 00:50:08,973
REPROTER: Isn't it true
you manipulated her?
886
00:50:09,140 --> 00:50:11,576
REPORTER 2: Did you do
all this for a book deal?
887
00:50:22,153 --> 00:50:23,521
NEWSMAN: The atmosphere
feels very different
888
00:50:23,654 --> 00:50:24,822
-among the party now.
- NEWSWOMAN: Look, I've read
889
00:50:24,922 --> 00:50:26,157
the deposition
and it's very clear...
890
00:50:26,257 --> 00:50:27,525
NEWSMAN 2:
Members of President Clinton's
891
00:50:27,658 --> 00:50:28,826
own party are now wavering
in their support,
892
00:50:28,926 --> 00:50:29,827
including my guest,
893
00:50:29,994 --> 00:50:31,529
Congressman Jim Moran.
894
00:50:31,662 --> 00:50:33,831
MORAN:
The fact is he lied
to the American people.
895
00:50:33,998 --> 00:50:36,334
That is undoubtedly going to
896
00:50:36,501 --> 00:50:38,936
necessitate impeachment proceedings.
897
00:50:53,184 --> 00:50:57,188
Andrew Johnson-- worst leader
this country ever had.
898
00:50:57,288 --> 00:51:00,024
Racist to his core,
drunk as hell
899
00:51:00,125 --> 00:51:02,527
the day he took over
for Lincoln.
900
00:51:03,961 --> 00:51:07,698
1868 Congress
finally impeached his ass.
901
00:51:09,033 --> 00:51:11,869
Only president
that's happened to, only one.
902
00:51:13,471 --> 00:51:14,872
Till now.
903
00:51:16,641 --> 00:51:18,876
I hate it when you're like this.
904
00:51:19,009 --> 00:51:22,147
We have not
lost anything, not yet.
905
00:51:27,218 --> 00:51:28,886
I'll call Jim Moran.
906
00:51:29,987 --> 00:51:31,656
What'll you say?
907
00:51:31,722 --> 00:51:35,993
I will say that if he thinks
he is fighting for me,
908
00:51:36,093 --> 00:51:39,063
then he needs
to fight on my side.
909
00:51:39,164 --> 00:51:41,432
And the way I see it,
910
00:51:41,566 --> 00:51:44,235
there are forces that have
been trying to take my husband
911
00:51:44,369 --> 00:51:47,104
down his whole life
and I don't want them to win.
912
00:51:47,238 --> 00:51:48,939
And I won't let them.
913
00:51:50,175 --> 00:51:52,443
And yes,
the right's got the votes,
914
00:51:52,577 --> 00:51:54,179
and I'm sure
they will do their worst.
915
00:51:54,279 --> 00:51:55,613
But to state the obvious,
916
00:51:55,746 --> 00:51:57,615
you are not
Andrew fucking Johnson.
917
00:51:57,748 --> 00:52:01,419
And the last billion times
the GOP has tried to destroy us,
918
00:52:01,552 --> 00:52:03,921
we have wiped the floor
with them.
919
00:52:04,054 --> 00:52:05,590
Have you seen the polls?
920
00:52:05,690 --> 00:52:07,592
Every step
they take towards this
921
00:52:07,725 --> 00:52:11,696
moronic idea,
your approval jumps a point.
922
00:52:11,796 --> 00:52:13,464
Nobody's looking at the polls.
923
00:52:13,598 --> 00:52:15,800
My own party
isn't looking at the polls.
924
00:52:15,933 --> 00:52:18,603
They just need
permission to forgive you.
925
00:52:18,703 --> 00:52:21,439
Which is something
that you can't give them.
926
00:52:24,775 --> 00:52:26,277
But I can.
927
00:52:28,946 --> 00:52:31,115
This is all the FBI interviews?
928
00:52:31,216 --> 00:52:32,983
We're waiting on a few more.
929
00:52:33,117 --> 00:52:34,485
We have a problem.
930
00:52:34,619 --> 00:52:36,120
We need to put Monica back
under oath.
931
00:52:36,287 --> 00:52:38,789
- Why?
- Our perjury charge
rests on the president
932
00:52:38,956 --> 00:52:41,125
claiming that technically he
didn't have sex with her because
933
00:52:41,226 --> 00:52:42,893
he never touched her
with intent to arouse.
934
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,630
He's lying,
but here's hours and hours
935
00:52:45,730 --> 00:52:47,632
of Monica's testimony,
and she never once
936
00:52:47,765 --> 00:52:49,234
speaks about all the times
937
00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:51,135
that he touched her
with intent to arouse.
938
00:52:51,236 --> 00:52:52,970
It was implied on our chart.
939
00:52:53,137 --> 00:52:56,307
That's weak shit. We need her
under oath, in detail,
940
00:52:56,441 --> 00:52:58,243
on all the sex,
proving him wrong.
941
00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:59,977
Okay, let's bring her back in.
942
00:53:00,077 --> 00:53:03,981
Gosh, who's going to
handle asking her about that?
943
00:53:05,316 --> 00:53:08,486
We are on the record.
Monica, you're still under oath.
944
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,490
First, I want to start by
asking you a general question.
945
00:53:12,657 --> 00:53:14,525
Did your relationship
with President Clinton
946
00:53:14,659 --> 00:53:16,261
start with sex
and then evolve into
947
00:53:16,327 --> 00:53:17,995
a friendship
or the other way around?
948
00:53:19,664 --> 00:53:21,999
It started with
a physical attraction
949
00:53:22,099 --> 00:53:24,669
which led to
a sexual relationship.
950
00:53:24,769 --> 00:53:26,837
And then the emotional and...
951
00:53:26,937 --> 00:53:29,440
friendship aspects of
that relationship developed
952
00:53:29,507 --> 00:53:32,677
after the beginning of
the sexual relationship.
953
00:53:33,844 --> 00:53:35,846
Why don't we start
with the first incident
954
00:53:36,013 --> 00:53:38,115
of physical intimacy:
November 15, 1995,
955
00:53:38,182 --> 00:53:40,184
which you've already
testified some about.
956
00:53:40,285 --> 00:53:42,353
- Okay.
- Can you tell me
957
00:53:42,487 --> 00:53:44,121
how the physical intimacy
between you two
958
00:53:44,221 --> 00:53:45,456
began that night?
959
00:53:48,459 --> 00:53:49,860
Um...
960
00:53:51,128 --> 00:53:53,964
Well, we were, uh...
961
00:53:54,031 --> 00:53:56,701
in an office alone.
962
00:53:56,801 --> 00:53:58,869
Kissing, you know?
963
00:54:00,371 --> 00:54:03,374
And then what happened
after the kissing started?
964
00:54:05,643 --> 00:54:11,882
Um, he started
untucking my shirt.
965
00:54:11,982 --> 00:54:13,150
And then what?
966
00:54:16,554 --> 00:54:19,056
I'm sorry.
For legal reasons,
967
00:54:19,189 --> 00:54:22,226
I need to get
specifically what happened.
968
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,928
Each physical interaction.
969
00:54:25,496 --> 00:54:26,897
Okay.
970
00:54:27,898 --> 00:54:30,234
(sighs)
Um...
971
00:54:30,368 --> 00:54:36,073
So, he took off my sweater
and, you know...
972
00:54:36,206 --> 00:54:38,175
Did he touch your breasts?
973
00:54:39,610 --> 00:54:42,513
- Yes.
- With your bra on or off?
974
00:54:46,083 --> 00:54:48,419
(sighs) I...
975
00:54:48,519 --> 00:54:52,790
I-I... (sighs) I don't
remember if I unhooked my bra
976
00:54:52,923 --> 00:54:55,960
or if he, um...
977
00:54:59,096 --> 00:55:01,966
...lifted my...
978
00:55:02,099 --> 00:55:04,635
bra up over--
This is embarrassing.
979
00:55:04,769 --> 00:55:06,103
I know.
980
00:55:06,203 --> 00:55:07,605
I'm sorry.
981
00:55:13,110 --> 00:55:14,545
But he...
982
00:55:15,780 --> 00:55:18,483
He lifted the bra over
your breasts.
983
00:55:18,616 --> 00:55:21,986
Um... sometimes...
984
00:55:25,623 --> 00:55:31,962
...he would lift my-my breasts
out of my bra. God.
985
00:55:32,129 --> 00:55:34,465
Did he touch your breasts
with his hands?
986
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:35,633
Yes.
987
00:55:35,766 --> 00:55:37,635
Did he touch your breasts
with his mouth?
988
00:55:38,969 --> 00:55:41,138
- Yes.
- Did he touch your genital area?
989
00:55:45,743 --> 00:55:49,146
Uh, I-I know this is...
990
00:55:49,246 --> 00:55:51,649
It's just, um, thinking about
other people reading this...
991
00:55:51,749 --> 00:55:54,652
I understand,
but I've been instructed
992
00:55:54,819 --> 00:55:56,153
to question you
on these details.
993
00:55:56,253 --> 00:55:57,588
- And I have to answer?
- Pursuant to the agreement
994
00:55:57,655 --> 00:55:59,590
you have with this office, yes.
995
00:55:59,657 --> 00:56:01,158
Do you understand?
996
00:56:02,493 --> 00:56:04,328
- Yes.
- Okay.
997
00:56:05,830 --> 00:56:08,032
Did he touch your genitals
on this date?
998
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:11,168
Yes.
999
00:56:11,268 --> 00:56:13,838
Can you describe
exactly how that happened?
1000
00:56:16,674 --> 00:56:18,042
He, um...
1001
00:56:27,351 --> 00:56:29,454
The president...
1002
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,057
uh, got a call, so we moved
into a back office.
1003
00:56:35,626 --> 00:56:37,462
While he was on the phone...
1004
00:56:40,531 --> 00:56:43,968
...he put his hand, uh,
down my pants and he...
1005
00:56:44,034 --> 00:56:46,070
stimulated that area.
1006
00:56:46,203 --> 00:56:48,372
Directly on your skin
or through underwear?
1007
00:56:50,975 --> 00:56:54,044
It was, um, touching...
1008
00:56:54,144 --> 00:56:57,214
through my underwear
at first and then he
1009
00:56:57,347 --> 00:56:59,650
placed his hand
under my underwear.
1010
00:56:59,717 --> 00:57:01,886
And did he bring you to orgasm?
1011
00:57:05,723 --> 00:57:07,892
-(quietly): Yes.
- Okay.
1012
00:57:09,594 --> 00:57:12,597
On this night, did you perform
oral sex on the president?
1013
00:57:12,730 --> 00:57:14,398
Yes.
1014
00:57:16,266 --> 00:57:17,602
Who initiated that?
1015
00:57:17,735 --> 00:57:19,403
I did.
1016
00:57:20,605 --> 00:57:23,941
Did the president say
anything to you during this?
1017
00:57:25,576 --> 00:57:26,911
No.
1018
00:57:29,747 --> 00:57:31,115
He was on the phone.
1019
00:57:34,752 --> 00:57:36,621
Would you like a break?
1020
00:57:45,530 --> 00:57:48,365
IMMERGUT:
Moving to March 31, 1996,
1021
00:57:48,432 --> 00:57:50,434
did the president
stimulate your genitals?
1022
00:57:50,535 --> 00:57:51,936
Yes.
1023
00:57:54,104 --> 00:57:56,373
Was that through clothing?
1024
00:57:58,208 --> 00:57:59,944
Not through clothing.
1025
00:58:00,077 --> 00:58:03,380
And he stimulated
your genitals with his hands?
1026
00:58:03,447 --> 00:58:06,784
Yes. And...
1027
00:58:09,386 --> 00:58:10,788
And?
1028
00:58:12,957 --> 00:58:15,325
He used, um...
1029
00:58:17,294 --> 00:58:19,129
He had a cigar.
1030
00:58:22,967 --> 00:58:26,303
I'm sorry, could you speak just
a little louder for the tape?
1031
00:58:26,403 --> 00:58:27,805
Okay, sorry.
1032
00:58:27,905 --> 00:58:28,973
He had a cigar.
1033
00:58:29,073 --> 00:58:31,308
Did he insert the cigar
into your vagina?
1034
00:58:34,745 --> 00:58:36,647
I'm sorry, I'm gonna need you
to answer verbally.
1035
00:58:36,747 --> 00:58:37,815
Yes.
1036
00:58:39,984 --> 00:58:42,152
Whose idea, um...?
1037
00:58:43,754 --> 00:58:45,155
How did that...?
1038
00:58:46,490 --> 00:58:50,160
Um, we were talking, um,
1039
00:58:50,260 --> 00:58:53,664
in the Oval Office...
1040
00:58:53,764 --> 00:58:57,334
one day and he was,
1041
00:58:57,501 --> 00:59:00,170
uh, he-he was chewing on a...
1042
00:59:00,337 --> 00:59:04,842
cigar and he looked at it
in a sort of...
1043
00:59:07,044 --> 00:59:10,781
...naughty way and I said,
1044
00:59:10,848 --> 00:59:15,686
"We can do that sometime."
So we did.
1045
00:59:16,787 --> 00:59:19,223
Did you understand it
to be arousing?
1046
00:59:20,858 --> 00:59:22,893
- Yes.
- Then what happened?
1047
00:59:33,370 --> 00:59:35,072
(quietly):
Um...
1048
00:59:36,306 --> 00:59:40,711
He put it in his mouth.
He said it tasted good.
1049
00:59:44,214 --> 00:59:46,651
Okay, I have
just one last question.
1050
00:59:46,751 --> 00:59:48,385
It goes to your motivation.
1051
00:59:50,054 --> 00:59:53,223
Do you for any reason
want to hurt the president?
1052
00:59:55,225 --> 00:59:57,762
No, that's the last thing
I want.
1053
00:59:57,895 --> 00:59:59,730
All right.
1054
00:59:59,864 --> 01:00:03,400
Thank you.
You did really well, Monica.
1055
01:00:04,935 --> 01:00:07,337
That's all I have.
I have to run this in.
1056
01:00:07,437 --> 01:00:10,074
Pam can help you see
yourself out.
1057
01:00:11,408 --> 01:00:13,577
Is it a boy or a girl?
1058
01:00:16,113 --> 01:00:19,917
Uh... It's a boy.
1059
01:00:20,017 --> 01:00:21,919
Mazel tov.
1060
01:00:23,353 --> 01:00:25,455
For your sake,
I hope this is goodbye.
1061
01:00:25,589 --> 01:00:27,591
♪
1062
01:00:41,605 --> 01:00:46,110
I want the full report ready
for Congress by Labor Day.
1063
01:00:46,243 --> 01:00:48,045
Judge, that's two weeks
from now.
1064
01:00:48,112 --> 01:00:49,947
Any closer to the election
and it will
1065
01:00:50,114 --> 01:00:52,116
appear like a political hit
on the Democrats.
1066
01:00:52,216 --> 01:00:54,618
Brett, please make sure
everyone has their drafts in
1067
01:00:54,719 --> 01:00:55,953
by September 4th.
1068
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,323
- Got it.
- Our FBI guys just
sent this 302.
1069
01:00:59,456 --> 01:01:01,158
It's a new interview
with Jane Doe 5.
1070
01:01:01,291 --> 01:01:03,627
Real name Juanita Broaddrick.
She's changing her statement.
1071
01:01:03,794 --> 01:01:06,296
- What she's saying?
- That Bill Clinton raped her.
1072
01:01:06,463 --> 01:01:09,299
This is that same woman who,
back in January,
1073
01:01:09,399 --> 01:01:11,468
signed an affidavit saying
nothing ever happened.
1074
01:01:11,635 --> 01:01:12,803
Right. Now she says
that was a lie.
1075
01:01:12,970 --> 01:01:15,172
Why is she lying?
Was she coerced by the Clintons?
1076
01:01:15,305 --> 01:01:17,975
- No.
- Was she offered something?
1077
01:01:18,075 --> 01:01:20,477
No, no quid pro quo.
She's saying she lied at first
1078
01:01:20,644 --> 01:01:22,146
because she didn't
want to be involved.
1079
01:01:22,246 --> 01:01:24,815
She's had no contact with
Clinton people since the '80s.
1080
01:01:24,915 --> 01:01:25,983
Well, if he didn't pressure her,
1081
01:01:26,083 --> 01:01:27,484
then it doesn't go
to his criminality.
1082
01:01:27,584 --> 01:01:30,154
Except for the raping.
1083
01:01:30,254 --> 01:01:31,655
H-He raped her.
1084
01:01:31,822 --> 01:01:34,491
We can't be cluttering
the report with all
1085
01:01:34,591 --> 01:01:37,161
the various sexual experiences
from his past.
1086
01:01:37,327 --> 01:01:39,363
Yeah, there's only so much
ink in the world, Sol.
1087
01:01:39,496 --> 01:01:44,668
I just... Judge, read the 302,
read what he did.
1088
01:01:47,938 --> 01:01:50,674
Perjury and obstruction
of justice.
1089
01:01:50,841 --> 01:01:52,843
Those are our grounds
for impeachment,
1090
01:01:53,010 --> 01:01:55,012
not some lady
who changes her mind
1091
01:01:55,179 --> 01:01:56,346
about what happened one night.
1092
01:01:56,513 --> 01:01:58,849
But...
(stammers, sighs)
1093
01:02:01,285 --> 01:02:04,855
Okay. So, should we not
put her in the report at all?
1094
01:02:04,955 --> 01:02:07,024
It can be an appendix
if you want.
1095
01:02:07,124 --> 01:02:08,793
Put her in a footnote.
1096
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:11,695
Okay.
1097
01:02:16,801 --> 01:02:18,803
♪
1098
01:04:03,307 --> 01:04:06,143
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