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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:14,920 In 1960, Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho changed the face of horror. 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,360 But the most terrifying part? 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,040 It was based on true events. 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,560 There really was a Norman Bates. 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,400 His name? 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,040 Ed Gein. 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,760 The Plainfield Butcher. 10 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,520 The Body Snatcher. 11 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,520 The ghoul who transformed the corpses of his victims 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,720 into a skinsuit to remind him of his dead mother. 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:42,800 Gein not only inspired Norman, but also an entire culture 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,240 of cinematic psychos that haunt our dreams. 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:52,000 Now, 63 years later, on the anniversary of Ed's arrest, 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,200 and for the very first time, we seek proof and answers. 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,400 Does Ed Gein still torment Plainfield, Wisconsin today? 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Mary? Will the evil spirit of Ed Gein 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,280 and the atrocities committed here... 20 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,600 I don't even want to see this. Oh, God! 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,280 ...forever haunt this small Midwestern town? 22 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,600 First day of investigation. 23 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,920 It is November 12th, 2020. 24 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,040 And I'm in Plainfield, Wisconsin. 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,760 Population just barely over 900. 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,520 I'm here to investigate claims of the paranormal by local residents 27 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,960 who believe the spirit of Ed Gein, 28 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,040 one of the most monstrous killers in American history, 29 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,240 is haunting this community. 30 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,760 On the night of November 16th, 1957, 31 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,280 a missing persons investigation was underway in Plainfield. 32 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,800 Bernice Worden, owner of the local hardware store, 33 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,600 had vanished that morning after a visit 34 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:23,040 from the town's reclusive handyman, 51-year old Ed Gein. 35 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,800 With the suspect already taken into custody, 36 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,600 investigators executed a search warrant on his home. 37 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,040 Check upstairs. 38 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,040 By morning, the depth of Gein's depravity had been fully revealed. 39 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,160 Not only did police find Bernice Worden's decapitated body 40 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,320 hanging from the rafters, they also uncovered a chair 41 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,040 upholstered with human skin, skulls turned into bowls, 42 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,640 silverware made from bones, 43 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,720 a belt made from nipples, 44 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,840 and, finally, Gein's masterpiece, 45 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,240 a suit sewn together from the skins of multiple women. 46 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Amongst the grisly collection, 47 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:02,960 police also found the face of Mary Hogan, 48 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,920 a Plainfield tavern owner who'd mysteriously disappeared 49 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,160 in the middle of a shift three years earlier. 50 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,840 Bernice and Mary were the only women Gein admitted to killing. 51 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,880 The other ten, he had dug up from the local cemetery 52 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,200 to use in his creations. 53 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,560 Is it any wonder that many Plainfield residents 54 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:33,800 believe the spirit of Ed Gein still terrorises this area? 55 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,880 That's why I'm here. 56 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,960 Ever since Ed Gein's house of horrors was discovered, 57 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,360 Plainfield, Wisconsin, has been a hotbed of paranormal activity. 58 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,120 The activity runs the gamut of everything from personal attack, 59 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,600 people being scratched, shadowy figures, disembodied voices, 60 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,400 and some of the residents actually believe the spirit of Ed Gein 61 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,600 is making them physically ill. 62 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,840 Here, I have several sites of interest where the inhabitants 63 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,560 and the owners claim to have extreme paranormal activity. 64 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,960 My goal is to investigate and interview everybody we possibly can. 65 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,680 And right now, we need to head to our first location, 66 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,840 which is the original home of Ed Gein, the Ed Gein Farm. 67 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,960 So, right now, we're going through the heart 68 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,280 of small town, downtown, Plainfield. 69 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,320 It's so small, it's so remote 70 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,000 that you can imagine how close-knit it must be. 71 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:42,920 And when you drive through here, you can just only imagine 72 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:48,320 how much the Ed Gein murders affected this community. 73 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,120 It must of have just sent shock waves right through the whole town. 74 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,520 Cindy Kaza is a renowned psychic medium 75 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,440 who can communicate with the spirit world. 76 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,080 I've asked her to meet me at Ed Gein's property 77 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,560 and have only told her the basic details of the case. 78 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,760 As we approach the Gein farm, I'm definitely getting excited, 79 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,800 got a nervous energy about me, 80 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,360 I just wanna get out there, see what I can see, 81 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,440 feel what we can feel. 82 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,120 Yeah, that's it. That's Ed Gein's farm. 83 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Right there's the gate. 84 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,120 It's kind of an ominous feeling just being here in this spot. 85 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,840 This will be the first time in history 86 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,080 anyone has been allowed back on the property to investigate, 87 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,200 just five days before the anniversary of his arrest. 88 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,200 In the months after the murder, the Gein farm 89 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:56,040 became a ghoulish attraction visited by locals and tourists alike, 90 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,320 eager for a glimpse of real-life horror. 91 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,840 But that all came to an abrupt end in March of 1958. 92 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,240 The farm where Ed Gein lived 93 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,000 and where much of the grizzly evidence has been found, 94 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,000 has been levelled. It burned down one night. 95 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,480 All these years later, trees and brush have overgrown 96 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,720 most of the farm site. But Cindy should still be able to sense 97 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,360 if the ghost of Ed Gein still lurks nearby. 98 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,600 I want to see if Cindy can sense where the house was 99 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:37,720 and tap into the paranormal energy on the land. 100 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,920 Cindy. Steve, good to see you. Good to see you, too. 101 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,520 How's it going? Good. Thanks so much for coming out. Absolutely. 102 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:54,600 So, we're about to walk into a lot of energy that I worry 103 00:08:54,680 --> 00:08:58,680 could affect us mentally and emotionally, so just be on guard. 104 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,760 OK. Yeah. Absolutely. 105 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,840 I couldn't agree more. Yeah. 106 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,920 Yeah. There's gotta be something really significant 107 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,280 about this area right here. 108 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,080 It's like, I keep feeling there, but then they're like, "No, go back, 109 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,160 stand right here, stand right here. 110 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,080 This is where you need to be." 111 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,000 So, I need to trust it. So, it should be right... 112 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,400 ..right there. 113 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,960 You're spot on. This is exactly where the Ed Gein farm house was. 114 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,120 It's super intense here. 115 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,400 So every... Everything has energy attached to it. 116 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:54,520 So what I want to do is touch the ground 117 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,760 and see what feelings or images come to me when I do that. 118 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,800 Oh, wow! That's not good. 119 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,520 I-I-I just keep seeing blood. 120 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,800 I keep seeing throats being slit and blood pouring out of the neck. 121 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,880 Is there a hill? 122 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,800 Or is there, like, a... 123 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,760 any part of this land that has a little bit of a hill, 124 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,200 or a mound or something? 125 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,200 I think there's a bit of a slope like that about 20 yards this way. 126 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,240 A mound. The hill... I keep... 127 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,960 I keep seeing it, but I keep feeling there are bodies buried there. 128 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,800 There's bodies buried there. There's more... 129 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,840 There's more death on this property that happened. 130 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,880 And... And there are pieces... 131 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,120 of remains spread out on this land. 132 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,200 OK. Um... 133 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,440 In my mind, I see this flash of a woman. 134 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,800 And this woman, she's wearing like a nightgown, 135 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,920 like a sleeping outfit. She is standing right there. 136 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,240 I can see her, she's following us. 137 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,520 I see her. Like she is... It's kinda like she's stalking us, Steve. 138 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,320 She's very, very aware that we're here. 139 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,880 And she's not happy about it. I can sense her. 140 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,600 I sense her. I honestly feel like it's mother. 141 00:11:32,680 --> 00:11:35,280 I feel like she's here, honestly. I feel like she's here. 142 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,320 And she's also protective of her family's reputation. 143 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,400 She doesn't like it. 144 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,760 I believe that Cindy is picking up on the spirit of Augusta Gein, 145 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,520 Ed Gein's mother. 146 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,240 We've only been on the farm here for a few minutes 147 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,280 and she's already tapping into Augusta's energy. 148 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,880 Mom, Mother, is calling me a little witch. 149 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,960 She's...she's calling me a witch. 150 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,760 I feel her spirit still. 151 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,480 Her spirit still walks around here 152 00:12:10,560 --> 00:12:12,680 and she is really pissed off that I'm here, 153 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,880 because I'm doing the devil's work, in her mind. 154 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,680 I sense her. 155 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,200 I honestly feel like it's Mother. 156 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,400 I feel like she's here. Honestly, I feel like she's here. 157 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,280 And she's also protective of her family's reputation. 158 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,040 So anytime we start to dig up dirt, she's not gonna like it. 159 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,640 So the more that we uncover... She doesn't like it. 160 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,000 She was an extremely dominating force. Yeah. 161 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,840 From Ed's psych evaluation, 162 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,200 it's clear Augusta shaped her son into the madman he'd become. 163 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,600 With Ed's father consumed by alcoholism, 164 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,760 it was Augusta who ran the household with an iron fist. 165 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,640 A domineering religious zealot 166 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,920 who taught her sons that women were evil. 167 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,120 After his father died of heart failure in 1940, 168 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,000 and his older brother Henry was killed 169 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,040 in a suspicious fire on the farm in 1944, 170 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,240 it was just Augusta and Ed living together. 171 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,320 Townsfolk thought Ed was a little weird and kind of effeminate, 172 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,640 peculiar for never starting a family of his own. 173 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,720 No one really knew the half of it. 174 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,480 For this small Wisconsin community of under 700 persons, 175 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:48,240 they remember the shock and the fear that suddenly gripped them 176 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,320 when the grizzly tale of Ed Gein became public. 177 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,600 Well, I've known him ever since he was a little boy. 178 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:57,680 And he seems to be a little odd. 179 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,760 Odd? Odd. I always figured he was just perfectly harmless. 180 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,640 Augusta died in 1945 when Ed was 39, 181 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,800 and that's when his behaviour started to change. 182 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,720 Could it be Augusta's hold on her son was so strong 183 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,440 that she controlled him from the grave? 184 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,160 And I think that's exactly the energy that Cindy is picking up on. 185 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,840 And it's extremely unpleasant. 186 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:35,120 I feel we're gonna uncover deeper things...about this property itself. 187 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,040 A night investigation here, I can only imagine. Yeah. 188 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,680 This entire investigation of everything, be careful. 189 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,040 We should probably trek out of here. You ready? Yeah. 190 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,960 We just got done walking the Gein Farm. 191 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,760 I can tell you the energy here at the farm is extremely powerful. 192 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,000 I can feel it, Cindy's picking up on a lot of different things. 193 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,080 I think we're gonna stop now. We need to head into town, 194 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,680 get our bearings and come back with more information. 195 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,920 But we are definitely coming back here for a full-on investigation. 196 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,120 While Cindy regroups before tonight's investigation, 197 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,320 I'm headed to Worden's hardware store in downtown Plainfield. 198 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,320 That's where Ed murdered Bernice 199 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,600 before bringing her back to his house and stringing her up 200 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,680 and gutting her like a deer. 201 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,520 The theory is after Augusta died, 202 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,360 Ed was so devasted he would do anything to bring her back. 203 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,440 The Worden's hardware store is one of the most infamous locations 204 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,520 involving the Gein murders. 205 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,960 On November 16th, Ed went there 206 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,840 under the guise of purchasing antifreeze. 207 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,600 Bring your jug? 208 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,280 But most people believe his real goal was to kill Bernice, 209 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,360 who reminded him of his dear mother. 210 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:30,640 'Do it now. 211 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,600 Be careful.' 212 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,280 Some people even claim that Ed heard Augusta's voice 213 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,960 urging him to do these terrible things. 214 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,400 Do it, Ed. Do it now! 215 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:31,320 No! 216 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,360 After Bernice's murder, fewer and fewer people 217 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,560 wanted to step foot in the hardware store. 218 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,800 It went out of business and the building was sold. 219 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,760 It's now a storage facility. 220 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,840 The current owners feel like they're being watched all the time 221 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,160 and there are unexplained cold spots. 222 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,760 And one time, a glass flew off the shelf and broke on its own. 223 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,360 Ed Gein confessed to killing Bernice Worden inside this building, 224 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,840 but the question remains, why? 225 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,960 The theory is that he targeted middle-aged women 226 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,640 who resembled his mother just to use them in his skin suit. 227 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:36,600 Hey, Cindy. What's up, Steve? 228 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,480 Here you go. Thank you. 229 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,560 OK. 230 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,080 Worden's Hardware store. Right. 231 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,560 We know Ed killed Bernice Worden right here in this very shop. 232 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,560 And I'm wondering if the evil from that brutal murder 233 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,960 remains here to this day. Right. 234 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,520 Is Worden's even haunted? And if so, by who? 235 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,520 Also, I wanna see if you can pinpoint and sense 236 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,920 the exact location where Bernice was murdered. 237 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,520 I've got devices set up in multiple spots, 238 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,640 I've got infrared light covering us. 239 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,240 I think I want to just kind of take a second 240 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,120 to feel into...where I'm drawn. 241 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:25,360 I'm here, right. I'm here, but I'm also...at his house. 242 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,920 I can't separate my visions from here and his house. 243 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,520 That beeping, where is that coming from? That's the REM pod. 244 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:40,680 This device alerts when a spirit is in close proximity. 245 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,760 Is somebody here with us? 246 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,640 I wanna do some automatic writing in here, 247 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,400 but, in all honesty, I'm a little bit afraid 248 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:05,720 to open myself up to the energy of this...this case. 249 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,360 So, I'm gonna do it, 250 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,720 because I think it will help us put some pieces together, 251 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,800 but I'm gonna need you to make sure to watch my back. OK. 252 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:16,800 In case things get really weird. 253 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,080 100%. Yeah. 254 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,240 This is insane, Cindy. I know. 255 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,600 So you can sit right there and you can put your lantern on the table 256 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,440 and your tablet. OK. 257 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,040 Automatic writing is a technique Cindy uses 258 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:38,600 to open herself up to the spirit world. 259 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,480 She's hoping to connect directly to Bernice. 260 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,400 But the REM pod beeping is nonstop. 261 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,720 Honestly, every time I try to tap in or I start zoning in, 262 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,160 they go off. It's like a distraction. 263 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,800 It's almost like... to stop me from getting answers. 264 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,600 Cindy's only been in Worden's for a matter of minutes 265 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,960 and already the activity is through the roof. 266 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,520 And now something is beginning to target her specifically. 267 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,440 OK, so the woman...who worked here, 268 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,120 the woman who had died, he...he hit her on the head. 269 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,280 Bernice was actually shot in the back of the head. 270 00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:34,320 That's what you're picking up on. 271 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,120 That's the hit to the head. And then it also said 272 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,200 that like he led her or she led him to get something. 273 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,040 Je must have come into the store to get something or tricked her. 274 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:47,640 I feel that's very much what happened. 275 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,000 It's exactly what happened. It's what happened. 276 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,400 He came in here to buy antifreeze. Oh, my God! 277 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:01,160 I honestly don't feel that her spirit is...is here. 278 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,280 It's not stuck here. I feel like 279 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:06,520 there's some psychic imprinting thing that could happen, 280 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,120 or memory attached to the building... Right. 281 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,440 ..but I don't feel like she's... 282 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,520 ..stuck here. 283 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,600 If you don't think Bernice is here, 284 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,600 what do you suspect is the activity that the owners' describe? 285 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,680 The feeling of being watched? 286 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,160 Honestly, the thing with Ed is that I feel once you start 287 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,040 tapping into his presence or his energy, it follows you. 288 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:36,240 It follows you. It can be anywhere. Once you're on that land, 289 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,240 it's like it gets into you. 290 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,200 Let's go take a look. 291 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,560 A lot of broken glass right here. 292 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,840 It sounded like knocking or tapping. 293 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,240 What was that? Your camera died? 294 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,480 It's insane, the battery drain in this building. 295 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,880 Everything's dying. There was a knocking. 296 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,280 I heard it. I heard it. If your camera is dead, 297 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,880 go ahead and put it down and go get the SLS system. 298 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,320 Let's see if we can capture an anomaly here. 299 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,600 Throughout the investigation tonight, 300 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,440 we've used a lot of different gear, 301 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,040 but right now, I'm gonna focus on using an SLS. 302 00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:30,400 Basically, the SLS shoots out a pattern of infrared lights 303 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,280 and anything that's three-dimensional, like a person, 304 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:35,960 will appear on the screen as an anomaly. 305 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,200 Well, whatever and whoever is in this building... 306 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,840 ..likes to mess with people. 307 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,400 My ear just started ringing. 308 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,080 It's weird. 309 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,080 His spirit is definitely here. 310 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,520 His energy is definitely in this building. 311 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,160 Mm-hm. 312 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,120 It's right next to you, Cindy. I mean, right next to you. 313 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,120 I feel something coming close. 314 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,160 Oh, God! Are you OK? 315 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,960 Yeah. No, I just had an image of my ear being chewed off, 316 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,640 like bitten off. 317 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,400 There's something building, it's coming right behind me. 318 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,320 I feel it in my chest. 319 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,720 Something with my ear being sliced off. 320 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,840 If this is you, Ed, are you threatened by Cindy's presence? 321 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,520 Her ability to call these things out as she sees them? 322 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,280 And now it's gone. Hm. 323 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:41,960 I feel like he's not gone, though. 324 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:53,680 I'm trying to feel where... 325 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,160 ..where the trail... where the body would've been. 326 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,240 Where did this happen? 327 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,880 It's almost like I wanna be right in here. 328 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,160 I do have something here that may be able to help us. 329 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:18,120 Ed Gein used the excuse to come here to Worden's hardware store 330 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,400 because he needed antifreeze. 331 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,840 This could be a perfect trigger object. 332 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,240 Using a trigger item helps to remind the spirit 333 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,360 of something that's important to them, 334 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,480 to entice the spirit to communicate. 335 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,760 Was this the spot, Ed? 336 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,080 Is this where it happened? Can you set the record straight? 337 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,920 Ed, is there more bodies on the farm? 338 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,160 Yeah. 339 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,280 Sounds like Ed has more to tell us. 340 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,640 I definitely think there's a lot more to the story. 341 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,120 There's no question in my mind, we contacted Ed Gein tonight. I agree. 342 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,640 This is a really dangerous space to be walking in. 343 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,240 So, that investigation was extremely intense. 344 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,200 I had no idea we were gonna capture that much activity, 345 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,880 or that Cindy was gonna tap into Gein's energy, 346 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,960 basically right off the bat. 347 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,560 He can interact with us, he's aware of our presence, 348 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,040 and he is trying to communicate with us. 349 00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:39,760 We are definitely dealing with an intelligent being, 350 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,840 it's an intelligent haunting. 351 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,320 The old Worden's hardware store in Plainfield Wisconsin, 352 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,400 definitely haunted. 353 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,400 During the investigation at Worden's, 354 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,280 I truly believe that the spirit of Gein was trying to attach 355 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:07,160 or attack or harm Cindy, because she's a woman. 356 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,720 All of Gein's victims were female. 357 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,480 And I believe he was trying to get to her. 358 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,560 Tonight was our first night on the Gein investigation 359 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,200 and...man, it was intense. 360 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,240 As a woman on this case, 361 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,280 I feel like I'm a target. I feel like Gein wants to harm me. 362 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,080 I feel like I'm a walking trigger object. 363 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,400 And being that this is only day one, 364 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,640 I really have no idea what we're in for, 365 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,720 but I know that I really need to keep my guard up. 366 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,920 Now that we know that Worden's is haunted, 367 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,080 I'm curious if other locations around town are haunted as well. 368 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,920 Many of the locals claim that the old Waushara County Jail 369 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,880 is actually haunted. That's the jail where Ed Gein 370 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,840 was held and questioned by police for three days. 371 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,400 Bernice was murdered inside her hardware store 372 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,960 on the morning of November 16th. 373 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,200 Less than 24 hours later, 374 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:09,040 police found her decapitated body hanging from Gein's ceiling, 375 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:11,640 gutted liken an animal. 376 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,720 Inside a nearby burlap sack, 377 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,920 they discovered her head. 378 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,360 Police quickly found Ed having dinner at a neighbour's house. 379 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,480 They arrested him and brought him down to the station. 380 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,920 For the first 30 hours of his arrest, 381 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,440 Gein refused to talk to the police. 382 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,120 He initially denies everything. 383 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,120 How long? Huh? 384 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,680 How long has this been going on? 385 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,880 I got a tip today that a local paranormal investigator 386 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,520 named Michelle actually visited the old Waushara County Jail, 387 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,120 which is now a museum. 388 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,040 She claims she was physically attacked by Gein himself. 389 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,160 So, tomorrow I wanna meet with her 390 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,200 and learn everything I can about her experience at the old jail. 391 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,040 But I wanna do it by myself without Cindy. 392 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,240 I don't want Cindy to have any information about the case 393 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,520 or how or why the old jail could be haunted. 394 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,440 Hi. Thanks so much for meeting me out here. 395 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,720 Nice to meet you. You too. 396 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,760 You've got some evidence for me to check out? I do. 397 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,760 We were investigating the jail at Waushara County 398 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,760 on some EVP and you could hear him say "Ed" and then "Edward". 399 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,040 Felt a sensation on the back of my neck, 400 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,040 and all of a sudden there was a burning sensation 401 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,760 from the right to the left, 402 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,600 and it felt like I was being scratched. 403 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,400 Since then, I actually feel that... 404 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,040 he still is somehow attached to me. 405 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,760 So... 406 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,040 You seem pretty shook up right now just even talking about it. 407 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,520 Yeah, it...it bothers me, actually. 408 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,360 I really appreciate you doing this. 409 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,240 I know it probably feels like opening up wounds again. Yeah. 410 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,840 But we're just really trying 411 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,520 to get to the bottom of what's happening here in Plainfield. Yeah. 412 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,680 Let me play the video recording you and your group captured at the jail. 413 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,760 Edward. That's incredible. 414 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,320 What's your name? 415 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,600 And this is the cell that he was in for four days. 416 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,040 You can start seeing my body language. 417 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,520 Like, that's when I started feeling something in the back of my neck. 418 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,600 "Eat them." 419 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,120 "Eat them." That's exactly what it says. 420 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,040 He's there, he hasn't left. 421 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,960 From right... From right there. 422 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,800 Right there. Yeah, you can see it. Right there. Yeah. 423 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:50,360 Once again, it's interesting. There's some guys in your team 424 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,760 and it didn't go after them. No. But it went after the female, 425 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,320 which is true to Ed Gein's nature. Correct. 426 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,160 It's one thing for people to say, 427 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,680 "we believe the spirit of Ed Gein still haunts our community," 428 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,280 but you were personally marked. Mm-hm. 429 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,760 Well, being marked is scary, 430 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,360 because you don't know what's next, what's gonna happen next. 431 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,440 That's a little frustrating for me, 432 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,760 cos I don't know what his intentions are. 433 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,920 He is a very strong...presence, 434 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,880 and I think that controls a lot that goes on in this area. 435 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,000 What Michelle experienced is truly incredible. 436 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,800 And what's really amazing to me 437 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,280 is she still feels targeted by Gein even after her encounter. 438 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,040 Now it's time for Cindy to visit the museum 439 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,480 and see if she can connect to the old jail that once stood here 440 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,240 and its most notorious prisoner. 441 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,640 All right, Cindy, I'm gonna give you one of these. Great. Thank you. 442 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,520 It's like I want to come right here. 443 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,000 I'm really confused, cos I feel here and then... I don't... 444 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,800 Was there ever another one? 445 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,680 Another cell that used to be here but isn't here any more? 446 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,800 Something like that, yes. That's why I feel so confused, 447 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,240 cos it's like I feel like it used to be here, but it's not here. 448 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,320 Like, there's something missing. 449 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,320 Um... 450 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,920 OK. 451 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,800 There's something about this door. 452 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,120 This door feels really important. 453 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,040 It feels... 454 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,640 I feel like this door is right, other things have been moved. 455 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,760 Something's been moved and changed, but this is right. 456 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,720 What's shocking to me, Cindy, is you were drawn to this room. 457 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,880 This was Ed Gein's cell. 458 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,520 And the reason this differs from the smaller more traditional cells, 459 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,520 is they knew they were gonna be 460 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,200 coming in here questioning him a lot, 461 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,000 trying to get confessions 462 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,440 and possibly to keep him away from the other inmates, 463 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,320 because I'm sure they wanted to do him harm. 464 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:42,520 The thing that I feel is, is I keep hearing...I keep hearing him say, 465 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,520 "I think Mother would be proud." But... 466 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,680 "Mother would be proud of the work I did." 467 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,520 Like he really felt he was making his mother proud 468 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,640 by killing these women. 469 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,200 Could it be possible that Ed 470 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,000 was being influenced or controlled by his mother from the grave? 471 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,280 He's very manipulative though, the way that he treats people. 472 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,480 He's so manipulative. The lies, there's so many lies. 473 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,680 So many lies. 474 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,000 So you think he was being pretty deceitful with his confessions, 475 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,880 not telling everything or misleading the facts? Absolutely. 476 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,520 My head is getting tingly. That's really weird. 477 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,720 Let me turn on my Mel Meter. If Ed's currently here with us, 478 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,360 perhaps we'll see spikes in EMF and fluctuation in temperature. 479 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,440 Who's with us? 480 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,280 That sounded like a response. Yeah. 481 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,720 Did you say Ed? 482 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,760 This is crazy. Yeah. 483 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,600 I mean, this is crazy. Yeah. 484 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,040 Ed, are you with us? 485 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:21,080 Interference. 486 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,880 As soon as I turned on my devices, 487 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,440 everything went completely haywire. 488 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,560 The K2, the Mel Meter. 489 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,200 The spirit of Ed Gein is absolutely here 490 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,600 and the old Waushara County Jail is definitely haunted. 491 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,480 Huge hits...repeatedly. 492 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,920 This is crazy. Yeah. I mean, this is crazy. 493 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,640 Yeah. 494 00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:54,600 It was like all chaos at once. Mm-hm. 495 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,280 Well, I think we got an answer. 496 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,360 Yeah, immediate answer. 497 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,160 I gotta be honest, I don't... 498 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,960 I'm not often afraid 499 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,680 and I don't wanna go so far as saying that I'm afraid. 500 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,600 I... We have to be really careful. 501 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,400 We have to be really careful. 502 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,280 Yeah. And the crew, everyone. Everybody. Everybody. 503 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,000 Everybody has to be really, really careful, 504 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,800 cos we're about to kick the hornet's nest. 505 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,560 Investigating the jail tonight was...crazy. 506 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,280 I mean, I definitely believe 507 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,040 there is something going on with Ed and his mom. 508 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,360 And I really believe that he thought that if he did all of these things, 509 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,560 that his mom would be proud of him. 510 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,440 And that's exactly why he was doing all of these things. 511 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,520 What an incredible day. We definitely made contact 512 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,760 with the spirit of Ed Gein, we wholeheartedly believe that. 513 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,280 Cindy was able to tap into his energy. 514 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,880 And with all the information that we've acquired 515 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,080 and all the knowledge that we now have, 516 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,600 the next move from here? I wanna go back to the Ed Gein farm. 517 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,960 We're on the way to the Gein Farm. I truly believe his spirit, 518 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,880 his energy is plaguing and haunting the town of Plainfield. 519 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,640 And especially, of course, his nature of targeting women. 520 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,520 We're also feeling the power 521 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,240 of everything that's been said about him for so many years. 522 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,200 Nobody can forget this guy's name. 523 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,280 His legacy is burned and just seared 524 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,960 into the minds, actually, of millions. Mm-hm. 525 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,200 This is about as evil as anything could be. 526 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,920 We've got everything set up. 527 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,600 I've got the spirit box located back there. 528 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,480 Right here is the Ovulus. 529 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,960 Over here I've got the REM pod set up on that stand. 530 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,360 And, of course, the trigger item, which is the antifreeze can, 531 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,760 basically what Ed Gein used to falsely gain Bernice's trust 532 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,240 to go into Worden's Hardware store when he murdered her. 533 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,240 Man, this dark here, it is dark. I'm telling you, it is dark here. 534 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,480 It's like you can feel... 535 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,800 That feeling of being watched right now is so intense. 536 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,760 I feel like... 537 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,360 Oh... Oh, that's interesting. 538 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:08,280 His mother never let him have a voice or...or a thought of his own. 539 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,920 It was always from her, it was always what she said. 540 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,000 He never had a voice. 541 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,240 She was the true evil. She's really evil. 542 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,840 And I keep feeling like she would say things like, 543 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:31,120 "I'm gonna get the demons out of you. The demons out of you." 544 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,440 Right, like already he grew up thinking he was evil 545 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,520 and women were evil. Everything around him is evil except her, 546 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,480 so, you know... But she's really evil, the mom. 547 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,400 As a young child, I... I'm sad for him. 548 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,840 I'm sad for him. 549 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,400 Because I don't think he was... 550 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,800 I don't think he was born this way. 551 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,880 You think he was created? 552 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,000 I...I feel like she created a monster. 553 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,640 All right, spirit box session. 554 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:17,240 Ed, are you here? 555 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,080 Major interference. 556 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,160 Come on, Ed, come through. 557 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,640 I don't know what the hell's happening right now. 558 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:40,240 This thing is just completely fried! 559 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,680 Just like at the jail, 560 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,200 as soon as I turn on my Mel Meter, instantly it began going crazy 561 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,000 with tons of readings. Something is definitely here, 562 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,200 something is trying to communicate with us. 563 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,040 I wanna see if Cindy can do an automatic writing session 564 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,880 and try to tap into and make some form of communication and contact 565 00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:01,960 with the same spirit. 566 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,800 OK. 567 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,160 Ed Gein, are you here with us right now? 568 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,920 He wanders the fields... 569 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,840 ..in search of her body. 570 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,280 I feel like I'm gonna throw up, I'm getting really, really nervous. 571 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,360 Like, I don't feel good. 572 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,440 OK. 573 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,480 Oh. 574 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:55,160 He will not leave this field or this town until she is with him, 575 00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:57,600 like he wants to be near his mom. 576 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,200 It feels evil. It feels really evil. 577 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:04,240 It feels just evil. And every time I feel into the mother, 578 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,960 it just feels so dark! 579 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:14,080 I started feeling how much of an effect Ed's mom, Augusta, 580 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,720 had on him and it was overwhelming. 581 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,040 For a moment there, I just really had empathy for Ed, 582 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,080 because I knew that he had been abused. 583 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,520 I knew that his mother... really hurt him. 584 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,360 It's as if I was looking through Ed's eyes and through his emotions, 585 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:35,520 and I knew that everything that he did...was for his mother. 586 00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:39,800 I think it's time to use the GeoPort 587 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,400 and see if Ed or his mother will speak to us. 588 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,800 Ed Gein, are you here? 589 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,960 Communicate with me. 590 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,000 What is your name? 591 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,400 Gein. 592 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,480 It said Gein. 593 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,680 Why did you kill Bernice Worden? 594 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,440 Ed. Does it. Mom. 595 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,880 Ed. Does it. Mom. 596 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,200 Augusta, are you present? 597 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,680 Be gone. Female voice, be gone. 598 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,680 If you have that intelligence, prove it. 599 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,600 What is my name? 600 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,680 Steve. 601 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,200 What is my friend's name that came with me? 602 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,480 Cindy. 603 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,160 It just said Cindy. 604 00:44:47,240 --> 00:44:52,080 Augusta, we would like to communicate with you. Are you here? 605 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,360 Here. It said here. 606 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,520 Are you OK with us being on the property? 607 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,960 Stay out. 608 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,200 Why would you want Ed to hurt women? 609 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,560 Demon. 610 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,800 Now I'm asking him in my mind, 611 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,040 where are the rest of the women that you killed? 612 00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,040 Where are the rest of the bodies? Like where are they? 613 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,040 "There were 12...that died. 614 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,080 He took... 615 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,080 ..the 11th... 616 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,000 to the barn." 617 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,160 Oh, God! 618 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,960 I can't... I don't even want to see this. 619 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,560 He made her wear his mother's necklace. 620 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,480 Like he would actually take his mother's things 621 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,320 and put them on these women. 622 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,280 Oh! 623 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,920 Oh, God! 624 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,960 I can't... I don't even wanna see this. 625 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,040 This is too much. 626 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,240 Dude, this is a lot. 627 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,680 Like, this is so... this is so intense. 628 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,680 I'm not surprised Cindy is having such a strong reaction 629 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,000 to the atrocities Ed committed on this property. 630 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,280 After his arrest, Gein admitted that he didn't just sew the suit 631 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,680 to bring his mother back from the grave, 632 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,880 he wanted to crawl inside it and actually become his mother. 633 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,960 Ed's bizarre behaviour raises so many questions. 634 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,680 Did he kill and dismember women 635 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,200 because his mother taught him they were evil? 636 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,920 Was his gruesome craft project some type of offering to her? 637 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,280 And why wear the skin suit? To feel his mother's love 638 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,240 or somehow revel in her power over him? 639 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,320 Honestly, it's gonna take me a while to shake this location. 640 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,720 Yeah, it's draining. I think at this point 641 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,280 there's no question that we both came in contact with Ed Gein, 642 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,760 his mother Augusta, that's clear. 643 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,640 Tomorrow, I wanna go to the Plainfield Cemetery. 644 00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:25,160 That's where both of their bodies are laid to rest 645 00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:27,680 and I think that's where we need to go. Yeah. 646 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,320 Tonight, um... 647 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,560 ..is just really tough. 648 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,520 To see what Ed did to these women and to see... 649 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,080 ..how evil this was, it's just pure evil. 650 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,560 And, you know, I'm supposed to open myself up 651 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:56,880 to experience the things in a case so I can sense what happened, 652 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,960 but I just don't feel safe doing that any more at all. 653 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,160 While using the GeoPort to investigate, 654 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:05,960 voices were coming through the device that would lead us to believe 655 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,640 that Augusta Gein, Ed's mother, was responsible, in a sense, 656 00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:12,640 for these murders. That she was urging and wanting Ed 657 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:15,400 to kill these poor, innocent women. 658 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,960 At this point, I wanna put more focus on Augusta 659 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,840 and go out to the cemetery where she's buried, 660 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,520 where the locals claim to actually see a female apparition, 661 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,640 possibly her apparition. 662 00:48:27,720 --> 00:48:30,360 And I wanna dig into more of her story to find out 663 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,880 could Augusta Gein really be responsible? 664 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,880 Was she influencing Ed to commit these atrocities? 665 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,080 Cindy, we're getting very close to the Plainfield Cemetery. 666 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,080 I'm gonna go meet with my contact, Dave, who's a local here. 667 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,200 He's gonna show me where Ed Gein's unmarked grave actually is. 668 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,640 And I know you like to go into these cases blind, 669 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:54,520 so I'll just have you kind of sit here in the truck. 670 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,400 That's better for me. This is a well-known case, 671 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,840 but I want to go in as blind as possible, 672 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,600 and if I know what people have been experiencing, 673 00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,440 it might affect what I receive. 674 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,280 So it's better that I just get what I get. All right, excellent. 675 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,600 The Plainfield, Wisconsin Cemetery is an eerie place. 676 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,160 In one row, you can find Ed Gein, his brother, Henry, 677 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:18,640 his mother, Augusta, his father, 678 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:20,720 and just a mere 50 yards away 679 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,080 is the grave of Ed Gein's victim, Bernice Worden. 680 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,040 Night two of our investigation, 681 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,440 and Plainfield historian, Dave Bignell, 682 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,960 has agreed to meet me at the cemetery on the outskirts of town. 683 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,160 So, Dave, how long have you lived in this area? 684 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:42,840 I've lived in this area my entire life. 685 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,320 There is a lotta... history in this cemetery. 686 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,640 Ed is buried amongst a lot of his victims, 687 00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:52,200 a lot of the people that he dug up. 688 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,600 So, this is where Ed was laid to rest. 689 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,880 You notice his headstone is gone. 690 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,640 That's because people would come in and chip away at it. 691 00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:05,440 People come in here, steal some dirt, maybe do some occult stuff. 692 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,480 Black magic? Absolutely. Yeah, that would be my first thought. 693 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,480 That's very unusual to see all the hair 694 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,520 and tufts of different feathers. 695 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:19,240 In addition to killing Mary Hogan in 1954 696 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,880 and Bernice Worden in 1957, 697 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:26,200 Gein admitted to digging up corpses of at least nine middle-aged women 698 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,800 from three cemeteries in the Plainfield area, including this one. 699 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,440 After carrying a body home, Ed would get to work, 700 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,920 harvesting the raw materials he needed for his gruesome creations. 701 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,360 It was the skin he treasured most, 702 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,320 carefully removing it, then tanning it like leather. 703 00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,360 Gein's women suit may have been his showpiece, 704 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,560 but he also was obsessed with his victims' faces, 705 00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,520 peeling them from their skulls to create a series of human masks. 706 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,680 This is his brother, that he is considered to have killed, 707 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,040 although he was never charged with it. 708 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,120 And his mother... 709 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,040 ..whom he wanted to raise from the dead. 710 00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:25,680 Once again, Dave is confirming theories that we've learned so far. 711 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,160 One, that Ed was obsessed with his mother 712 00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:30,760 and wanted to bring her back from the dead. 713 00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:37,160 'Rise!' And two, he heard voices, possibly his mother's voice, 714 00:51:37,240 --> 00:51:40,040 instructing him to kill and rob graves. 715 00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,640 Dave, do the locals really believe that this cemetery is haunted? 716 00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:04,560 The people who will talk about it do believe that this area's haunted. 717 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,000 If they walk through here with lights, 718 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,200 they see shadows where shadows shouldn't be, that are moving. 719 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,360 They can hear screaming and wailing, mostly female. 720 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,200 With everything that happened over all those years, 721 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,920 there's a pretty widespread belief that this is a haunted area. 722 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,920 Do you think the spirit of Augusta Gein is here in the cemetery? 723 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,280 Absolutely. It was time to bring in Cindy. 724 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,560 But just as I was about to walk to the car, 725 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,040 I realised we weren't alone. 726 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,760 We're tired of people like you 727 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,760 coming here and doing this. 728 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,840 You need to leave! 729 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,760 As Dave and I were finishing up our conversation, 730 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,080 some locals were approaching us very upset at our presence 731 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,200 here at the Plainfield Cemetery. This is a place of rest. 732 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,000 They have loved ones here 733 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,520 and they may even be related to the victims of Ed Gein. 734 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,400 The wound has not been healed here. 735 00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,840 I can understand where they're coming from. 736 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,960 So, out of respect for them, we're just gonna leave 737 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,280 and see if Cindy can do some remote viewing of the cemetery. 738 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:18,800 Cindy, I know you've got the ability to tap in with remote viewing. 739 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,400 Now can you kind of explain to me the process? 740 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,760 I'll project myself to the location, to the cemetery, 741 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,400 and see what I feel, because I don't actually 742 00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,960 have to physically be there to sense what's going on there. 743 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,040 OK. Yeah. OK. 744 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,880 When it comes to the location of his grave, 745 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,840 something has definitely been changed 746 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,720 that's not just his stone being moved. 747 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,360 There's another piece that's missing, 748 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,960 there's another piece that I feel is hidden from the public. 749 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,200 Something's different. 750 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,320 I'm just sensing that... 751 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,480 Ed doesn't feel he's actually with his mother. 752 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,960 Even in death... Ed dug up bodies from graves. 753 00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,440 Wow! That's interesting. 754 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,640 I see him in this attempt 755 00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:33,360 to lay down next to her and hug her. 756 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,440 It's almost like he wants to get in the grave with her 757 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,520 and hold her. 758 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,600 Like if he had actually gotten her out of the grave. 759 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,440 He used to brush his mother's hair. 760 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,040 There's something with that, 761 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,000 cos I see him wanting to brush her hair. 762 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,160 Oh, man! 763 00:54:56,240 --> 00:55:00,560 And then the sense I get is... every woman that he killed, 764 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,960 it's like an offering to his mother. 765 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,400 Like, "See what I did Mom? See. Look. 766 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,560 This is for you. I'm doing this for you." 767 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,760 It's all for her. It's all for Mother. 768 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,840 After she died... 769 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:15,880 Mother, I'm here. 770 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,760 ..he would have conversations with her in his mind. 771 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,240 In his mind, he was still living with his mother? 772 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,320 He's still living with his mother. 773 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,800 Like the movie Psycho got it right. 774 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,640 That's exactly it. 775 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,440 Do you really believe that Gein 776 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,960 thought he could raise his mom from the dead? 777 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,640 I don't feel he thought he could raise her from the dead 778 00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:42,800 and that she would start talking again. 779 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,080 I feel like... he couldn't be without her. 780 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,320 The absence of her, he couldn't handle. 781 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:55,400 I sense...on that cemetery... 782 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,640 ..he was feeling something was also watching him. 783 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,360 His eyes would go black. 784 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,560 I don't feel that he... 785 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,240 ..even knew what was happening to him. 786 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,760 In his psych evaluation, Ed Gein said 787 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,560 he doesn't remember digging up bodies in graveyards 788 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,400 or killing Bernice Worden and Mary Hogan, 789 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,160 as if he were in a daze. 790 00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:28,040 So, what caused him to commit such atrocities? 791 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,040 Did the spirit of Ed's mother 792 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,680 control him as much in death as in life? 793 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,360 Did he hear Augusta's voice instructing him 794 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,000 to make a woman suit out of corpses? 795 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,360 Did Ed create that suit to become his mother? 796 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,800 Finally, did the abuse he suffered as a child make him hate women? 797 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,840 I do have the GeoPort set up here 798 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,200 because I had so much action on it at the farm. 799 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,520 I was wondering if you'd wanna this time participate with me. 800 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,920 Absolutely. Needless to say, you've tapped into the energy 801 00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,240 of Ed, Augusta, numerous times since we've been together. 802 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,040 And like you said, 803 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,640 even just speaking about them in this community, they're here. Hm. 804 00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:12,760 So, I feel like, with the GeoPort right now, 805 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,840 we could try to get some more answers, 806 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,880 see what we get, try to connect some dots. 807 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,080 Mm-hm. Yeah, let's do it. 808 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,160 All right. 809 00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,560 Ed, did you take some of the body parts and bury them on your land? 810 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,440 Mound. The mound! Mound. 811 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,760 You had mentioned right at the beginning of the investigation 812 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,480 on the farm that you thought there were more bodies on the land. 813 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,160 Was there like a mound or something? 814 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,680 I keep... I keep seeing it, 815 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,280 but I keep feeling there are bodies buried there. 816 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,520 There's bodies buried there. 817 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,280 This is so crazy it. I don't know, now I'm getting chills. 818 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,160 I don't know, but something drove him to use those bodies 819 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,360 and put them back into the earth. 820 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:05,920 Ed, are there more bodies buried on the farm that weren't discovered? 821 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,520 Possessed? Did you hear that? I did. It sounded like "possessed". Yeah. 822 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,480 Who was possessed? 823 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,360 Ed. 824 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,760 It says "possessed". 825 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,800 We say, who is possessed? "Ed". 826 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,520 I swear it just said, "Put on the suit." 827 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,760 Really? That's what I heard. 828 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,480 Are you talking about what you used to put on, Ed? 829 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,560 Wearing other people's skin? 830 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,920 Oh, my God! 831 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,240 I got chills like... 832 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:05,800 When you try to enter the mind of Ed Gein, it's a terrifying place. 833 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:07,880 It's very terrifying. 834 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,000 Because this is such a pivotal moment in the investigation, 835 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,640 I wanted to listen to see what we had captured, one more time. 836 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,000 I've got a lot of things queued up here on my laptop 837 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,600 that I wanna play you from the remote viewing session. 838 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,880 The GeoPort, a lot of different voices will come through it 839 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,640 and sometimes spirits will actually step over each other, 840 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,120 so when you go back and really listen, 841 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,320 you'll hear things that we couldn't hear at the time. Right. 842 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,560 So, I wanna go ahead and play you some of these. 843 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,960 Oh, my God! I hear... 844 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,720 "Put on the suit". 845 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,800 That was so clear. And of course, 846 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,040 we know Ed Gein had a skin suit that he would put on. 847 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:59,120 It's a female voice, as if Augusta's saying, 848 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,240 "Ed, put on the suit". Put on the suit. 849 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:08,040 Everything that he was doing... was to get his mother's love. 850 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,960 He's looked at as a monster. 851 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,400 Is that the lack of empathy of a psychopath, 852 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,400 or is there something greater at work? 853 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,280 He was influenced, but had no idea he was influenced. 854 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,040 Hearing the words, "put on the suit." 855 01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,760 I mean, this kind of evidence is unheard of. 856 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:37,080 Ed literally wanted the female suit so he could become his mother. 857 01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,360 I mean, it's just sick. 858 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,960 This investigation just keeps getting creepier. 859 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,120 I was just contacted by a local Plainfield resident 860 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,520 who claims he purchased an item at auction 861 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,840 that he believes belonged to Ed Gein 862 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:55,440 and will blow our minds. He's never shown anyone this object before. 863 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,480 I'm really excited to head to Tom's house. 864 01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,360 He's a local resident here and I got a tip that he has 865 01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,920 some pretty interesting artifacts of high interest to this case. 866 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,040 So we're gonna head there right now. I'm really looking forward to seeing 867 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,360 if you can kind of tap into the items he has 868 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,080 and see if you can connect any dots. I can do what's called psychometry. 869 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:29,120 So, I can hold an object and sense the memory attached to the object 870 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,080 or the emotions attached to the object. 871 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,000 Well, this is my house. 872 01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,000 A lot of antiques here, huh? Yeah. 873 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:52,760 Cindy, Tom has some very interesting artifacts that he has set out here, 874 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:56,200 and I would just like you to see if you can sense anything. 875 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,200 Skinning. Skinning. 876 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,480 It's something involved in that process. 877 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,120 You couldn't have been more accurate. 878 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,960 Here are two knives that Tom believes belonged to Ed Gein. 879 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,760 Do you think that these items were used by Ed Gein? 880 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,960 It feels like there's memory attached to it. 881 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:38,600 And I feel like there's some... something was feeling... 882 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,960 like there would've been evil brought into the house 883 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,960 or something dark. 884 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,640 So, Tom, let me ask you how did you acquire these items? 885 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,440 What's the story behind these? There was an auction that came up, 886 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:54,080 my wife and I started bidding on. We're antique collectors. 887 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,680 so they're antiques and they've got history, 888 01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,120 so it's nice to have 'em. The items that you got from the auction, 889 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,240 you get 'em back to the house here and what happens next? 890 01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,320 Well, I put 'em in the garage 891 01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,000 and we didn't have any problems for a few weeks, 892 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:13,760 and then, suddenly, I started seeing a shadow, a tall skinny shadow 893 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,240 going from the garage door, past the TV and the fireplace 894 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:19,240 and outside of the house. 895 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:24,000 But then the birds started getting sick and dying, two a day. 896 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,560 The rest of my animals died after that. 897 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,600 My ma died. Then my dad died on Father's Day, 898 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,960 and then my wife died on the following Christmas. 899 01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,280 Do you think these items are responsible 900 01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,920 for all the tragic deaths in your family? 901 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,800 Most definitely. 902 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,000 Well, Tom, Cindy's definitely picking up on a presence 903 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,760 and picking up on a lot of information that you confirmed. 904 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,240 I think we need to start investigating right away, 905 01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:59,240 if that's OK with you. That'd be great. OK. 906 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,640 Our goal's to figure out 907 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:05,320 if these objects that belonged to Ed Gein are cursed as well. 908 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,920 I got Jaime now with the SLS system set up. 909 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,080 I've got the Mel Meter, I got the REM pod, 910 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,120 motion detector set up there. Two K2 meters. 911 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,400 I think we should just start. 912 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,040 Ed Gein, are you present with us? 913 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,000 Did you use these objects? 914 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,680 Dude! 915 01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,440 Ed, is that you? 916 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,440 Ed, are these your personal items? 917 01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,240 What the hell?! 918 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,400 It's like right in front of the sensor. 919 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:56,080 Mel Meter's going off, we're picking up motion detection, 920 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,280 and something is near the Mel Meter on this side of the room. 921 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,480 Where is at, Jaime? Is it on this side? Yes. 922 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,240 Ed...I'm gonna take your item here, 923 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,360 I'm gonna set it on this chair. 924 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:12,600 Now, if that's yours, 925 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:14,680 let us know. 926 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,720 If that's truly yours, can you come stand by here? 927 01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:22,280 I feel a male...presence. 928 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,080 Dude, Cindy, I'm not trying to freak you out, 929 01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,680 the fur on your coat just went down a little bit here. 930 01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:31,200 I don't think a draft did that. It just kind of went like this. 931 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,800 Did you feel anything? No, I can just feel this presence near. 932 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:39,360 I can feel it coming. There's a man like breathing down my neck. 933 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,440 I swear to God. 934 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,880 I feel like there's a man breathing. 935 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,200 Are you serious? 936 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,800 Oh, my God! 937 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,400 Right now? 938 01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,640 The activity is second to none here. 939 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,600 I mean...every meter, the SLS, 940 01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,400 we ask it to come to the knife if it's Gein. "If this is you, 941 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,040 come to your weapon." I'm just freaked out even more 942 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,480 because we were shown this last night. I know. 943 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,800 Everything you were saying last night 944 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,280 is all coming together right here. Yeah. 945 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,200 He's with us everywhere we go. He's everywhere. 946 01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,360 Last night, we heard a voice say, "Put on the suit." 947 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,160 Today, Cindy confirms that this was the knife 948 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,600 that Ed Gein used to make that suit. 949 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,720 It's almost as if Gein is following us all over town. 950 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,440 And he definitely wants his knife back. 951 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:41,280 Tom, you have one of the most active homes 952 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,640 I have ever investigated in my life, first and foremost, 953 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,680 but I don't need to tell you that. 954 01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,120 I usually keep these out in the shed because, you know, 955 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,520 after the animals started dying and people getting sick, 956 01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,720 you know, seeing the shadow running back and forth, 957 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,680 I decided, "Out in the shed. You can go outside." 958 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,840 Would you consider letting us borrow this item 959 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:06,560 to take it to the farm for our final investigation? Yeah. 960 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:10,000 I think I'll be OK with that. OK. We'll definitely return it, 961 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,480 cos I have no plans on adding this to my collection. 962 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,040 And I'm not taking it with me anywhere. 963 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,560 At this point, I'd like to go back 964 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,040 to the Waushara County Historical Society 965 01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,160 and really kind of dig into the archives, 966 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,600 speak to somebody about the history of the property. 967 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,600 What happened on this land? 968 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,760 So, Lori, of course you know we're here conducting an investigation 969 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,360 about the Ed Gein farm. 970 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,040 And Cindy immediately upon stepping up on that land 971 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,120 starting having a lot of visuals. 972 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,400 She was really picking up on 973 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,480 spiritual energy coming from the land itself. 974 01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,160 And she thinks it goes back before the Geins moved there. 975 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,560 I felt immediately a Native American history 976 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,720 attached to the land. So I knew that there was something connected. 977 01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,880 And then I kept seeing... 978 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,000 I call them night walkers. 979 01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,160 There's something about these spirits 980 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,400 connected to the Native American culture 981 01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:20,240 that walk ton he land at night. 982 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,960 What type of history can you tell us about Ed Gein's property 983 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,280 far before the Geins actually purchased the acreage? 984 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,960 The Black Hawk War of 1832 985 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:35,440 was in this area between several different tribes 986 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,840 and the US military. 987 01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:42,040 It was a very tragic war and it's estimated 988 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:46,320 that between 400 and 600 Native Americans were killed. 989 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,000 And when Native Americans were buried, 990 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,000 they were always buried in... mounds.. 991 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,160 ..throughout the whole state. 992 01:08:55,880 --> 01:09:01,480 The battle happened right around where Ed Gein's farm stands today. 993 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,680 And now the Ho-Chunk tribe 994 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,680 is the largest... in the Wisconsin area. 995 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,800 Lori, with all this information and learning about this battle, 996 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,960 do you think they could have left some type of residue on the land? 997 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,360 Or something causing the paranormal activity taking place today? 998 01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:21,440 Yes, definitely. 999 01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:27,280 All Waushara County has a lot of residue from the battles. 1000 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,280 Do you think Plainfield, Wisconsin, is haunted? 1001 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,360 Yes...totally. 1002 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,600 I suggest you talk to one of the Ho-Chunk elders, 1003 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,520 they'll know a lot more of the land. 1004 01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:46,760 So receiving that information was critical and absolutely amazing. 1005 01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,960 I would like to get the perspective from a local tribe, 1006 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,600 maybe seek out an elder, get some information about their history, 1007 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:02,120 and find out what could these spirits be. 1008 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,560 Why is there so much unrest? 1009 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,560 Cindy, right now we're about to meet with Brother Thundercloud, 1010 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,480 who is an elder in the Ho-Chunk tribe in this area. 1011 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,480 And he's going to tell us more about the land, their cultures, 1012 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,800 and their beliefs to see if that can shed some light on this case 1013 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,200 and even some of the visions you were having in this area. 1014 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:28,680 When God created Earth, God created the human beings. 1015 01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,760 There were also spirits that were created. 1016 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,920 And these spirits are in everything that we see. 1017 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,160 You know, this sand, this water, 1018 01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,720 the rocks, the trees, the leaves, 1019 01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,640 you know, they're all spiritual. 1020 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,600 When we were walking on the land at Ed Gein's farm, 1021 01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:54,280 I walked on it and I knew I was standing on...sacred land. 1022 01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,160 I became aware of these spirits that looked like shadows. 1023 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:03,400 And I kept hearing "night walkers". 1024 01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:06,600 Do you have anything similar to that in Ho-Chunk culture? 1025 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,200 There are... what we'd call night spirits. 1026 01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,800 These night spirits are not... not all bad. 1027 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,960 Our term for spirits is. 1028 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:21,280 It's just plain spirit. They go about in order to protect us. 1029 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:27,080 There are...good ones and there are...bad ones. 1030 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,280 Bad spirit. 1031 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:35,160 I mean, Ed Gein, and his mother, 1032 01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,640 they brought a lot of darkness to that land, 1033 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,800 so maybe we were dealing with the protective good night walkers 1034 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,120 that were just trying to protect. 1035 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,720 We do believe in good and evil spirits. 1036 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:47,640 They do exist. 1037 01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,880 And do you believe those spirits are still on Earth here today? 1038 01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:52,800 Oh, yes, they're here. 1039 01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,480 Brother Thundercloud told us 1040 01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,080 that night walkers could be good and like soldiers on a the land, 1041 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:05,440 or they could be evil. So what are we dealing with on the Gein farm? 1042 01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,960 Is it good...or evil? 1043 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,200 Knowing this information can help us decipher 1044 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,320 what's going on at the Gein farm. So we definitely need to go back 1045 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,000 and figure out what the heck is going on? 1046 01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:24,680 Walking into the final investigation, 1047 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,000 we know that Ed Gein's mom, Augusta, is part of this haunting. 1048 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:30,200 And we know that Ed's here. 1049 01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,160 Ed Gein is everywhere in Plainfield, 1050 01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:34,920 but many questions remain. 1051 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:39,960 Was Augusta influencing Ed to murder Bernice and Mary and rob the graves? 1052 01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,760 Are Ed's victims still here with us, 1053 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,520 or have they peacefully crossed on to the other side? 1054 01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,600 We have no idea what's about to happen. 1055 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,560 Right now, we're at the Ed Gein farm. 1056 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,320 This is the final night of investigation. 1057 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,960 We are here for answers. We have two trigger objects, 1058 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,440 the knife we believe Ed Gein used on his victims, 1059 01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:25,480 and also we have a Bible to see if Augusta's spirit 1060 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:27,920 will respond to that specifically. 1061 01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:30,960 And what's more, this is a special night. 1062 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,120 This is the anniversary tonight 1063 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,920 when the police converged on the farm here... 1064 01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,120 ..and found Bernice Worden's body 1065 01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,640 when Ed Gein was discovered and caught. 1066 01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,520 63 years ago tonight. 1067 01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,400 We're gonna do whatever it takes to find out what is going on. 1068 01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:54,160 I have the GeoPort set up, the REM pod and the Ovulus. 1069 01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,360 So, Cindy, what I would really like you to do tonight 1070 01:13:58,440 --> 01:14:00,440 is try to tap in as much as you can, 1071 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,320 see if you can find out any answers about the land, 1072 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,760 Augusta possibly influencing Ed, 1073 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,800 and tell me what you're seeing and what you're sensing. 1074 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:17,000 What are you seeing? I see him just killing these women... 1075 01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,000 ..and then having dinner, like nothing happened. 1076 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,640 Honestly, I'm sensing... 1077 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,480 so much energy coming towards my chest. 1078 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,360 Really?! 1079 01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,640 That's...insane. 1080 01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,840 REM pod hit. 1081 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:47,080 Just like at Tom Dyar's house. 1082 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,720 Right now? 1083 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,360 I feel his mother. 1084 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,280 I feel her everywhere. 1085 01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,560 All I can hear are screams. 1086 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,680 I'm hearing, "The witch is back. The witch is back." 1087 01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,080 Turn this on. So you think Augusta's here? 1088 01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,160 Yeah. Turn it on. 1089 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,560 I can... Augusta! 1090 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,520 Augusta. Augusta, is that you? 1091 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,680 Are you here? 1092 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,800 Here. It just... 1093 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,880 Ed. 1094 01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,920 Can you tell us what this object is? 1095 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,360 What is this? Tell us. 1096 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,000 A knife. Did it say knife? I heard it. It said "a knife". 1097 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,120 I just felt like somebody running... 1098 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,960 up towards my, like, spine. 1099 01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:55,000 And like slicing down... like down my spine. 1100 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,240 Like you would be gutting something. 1101 01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:01,880 That's what he did to Bernice Worden and likely to Mary Hogan as well. 1102 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,000 After Gein's arrest, he told a psychiatrist 1103 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:11,440 about a childhood incident in which he watched his mother butcher a pig 1104 01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,520 and remembered feeling aroused. 1105 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,280 In his mind, the act of dismemberment 1106 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,720 may have been associated with pleasure ever since. 1107 01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,360 Did that childhood memory contribute... 1108 01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:45,040 ..to Ed Gein's gruesome hobby? 1109 01:16:56,440 --> 01:16:58,960 It's back on the knife again? It's trying to touch... 1110 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,040 How is this happening? This knife? 1111 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,440 It's exactly what was happening at Tom's house. 1112 01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,640 I've never experienced anything like this ever. 1113 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,960 That just said "demonic" loud and clear. 100%. 1114 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,640 What is demonic? 1115 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,600 Tell us. 1116 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,680 Be gone. 1117 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,520 What is demonic? 1118 01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:32,520 That sounded like...I heard Satan. 1119 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,000 This is really...bad. 1120 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,080 Ed, we wanna hear from you. 1121 01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,280 Why did you hurt those women? 1122 01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,200 He said Augusta. Ed, did your mother 1123 01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,520 influence you to do these horrific things? 1124 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,720 Learn your lesson, boy! 1125 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,800 Yes. Are you feeling anything right now? 1126 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,320 Is it right on my back? Yes. 1127 01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:07,760 Ed, are you standing next to Cindy right now? 1128 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,920 I just saw him. I just saw an image of him charge towards me 1129 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:19,240 and go for my neck. Just go... go for my neck, choking me! 1130 01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,880 That's exactly what it was doing on the SLS camera. Choking me! 1131 01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,800 Are you trying to hurt Cindy the way you hurt those women? 1132 01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,000 I feel really bad. 1133 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,200 I...I feel really bad. 1134 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:39,160 I seriously can... All I can hear are screams. 1135 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,080 That was a woman crying! 1136 01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,760 That's exactly what you described. 1137 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,880 You think you were seeing one of Ed's victims? Yes! 1138 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,840 I just keep hearing, like, 1139 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,840 "Their souls are crying. Their souls are crying. Their souls are crying." 1140 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,160 Like... Like they're trapped here. 1141 01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:12,240 I hear them. 1142 01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,840 What is that? Do you hear that woman?! 1143 01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:17,600 Are you one of the victims of Ed Gein? 1144 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,800 Mary. That was one of Ed's victims. Oh, my God! 1145 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,040 Mary Hogan. 1146 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,160 Three years before killing Bernice, 1147 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:30,840 Ed fatally shot Mary Hogan at her tavern, 1148 01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,880 then beheaded and butchered her just yards from where we are now. 1149 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:40,000 Could her spirit still be trapped here today? 1150 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:42,720 Mary, are you present? 1151 01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:48,440 Something is on the Bible? 1152 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:04,920 Augusta, is that you? 1153 01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,280 Going for the Bible? That's not Augusta. 1154 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,600 It's one of the women. 1155 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,360 And it said Mary. 1156 01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,000 Mary, are you present? 1157 01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,120 This is crazy! 1158 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,240 It's real. It's real. It's real. 1159 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,920 What's real? Could this be Mary? 1160 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,760 Ed? Augusta? or all three? 1161 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,560 The activity is off the charts! 1162 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,440 I hate this place so much. 1163 01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,120 I feel like we're in hell. It's bad. I didn't know it was cold. 1164 01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,000 I'm telling you, if we stay on this land much longer, 1165 01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,120 it's really gonna start to affect us. 1166 01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:01,120 Your mind will be twisted if you stay on this land much longer. 1167 01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,440 This is not a place to spend a lot of time. This is not safe. No. 1168 01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,200 We can't take that risk. 1169 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,480 I know we're dealing with something really dark. 1170 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,560 You can be tricked and think 1171 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,920 you're dealing with your loved ones on this land, 1172 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,600 but it's definitely not your loved ones. You see what I'm saying? I do. 1173 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,360 What you're describing is evil. It's evil. 1174 01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:23,160 It's...it's not good. If you're seeing that and this is happening, 1175 01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:26,400 I don't know if we should continue. I wanna get the hell out of here. 1176 01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:28,600 All right, we're done, for our safety. Yeah. 1177 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,800 This is not good. Let's go. Let get out of here. 1178 01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,880 Everybody else, wrap it up. 1179 01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,400 We caught anomalies again reaching for the knife. 1180 01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:45,080 Words like demonic, Satan... coming out of the GeoPort. 1181 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:47,600 I'm hearing, "The witch is back". 1182 01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:49,800 We heard wailing and crying. 1183 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,160 Cindy was seeing Gein's victims. 1184 01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:56,640 And, of course, this is the anniversary of when Gein was caught. 1185 01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,480 It is not safe for us to be here any more. 1186 01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,960 All of us are getting out of here now. 1187 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,360 The final investigation at the farm was super intense. 1188 01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:11,560 We caught evidence that, honestly, 1189 01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,080 is probably some of the best of my career. 1190 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,520 I really feel more affected by this case 1191 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:39,280 than any case I have ever worked on in my career. 1192 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,360 Throughout our investigation, we sought out answers 1193 01:22:42,440 --> 01:22:45,600 to the biggest questions and received compelling evidence. 1194 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,960 Ed Gein, are you present with us? 1195 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,760 Dude! 1196 01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:55,120 Was this the work of a man who wanted to become his mother, 1197 01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,320 wanting the power, hating women, 1198 01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,560 wanting to BE a woman? 1199 01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:04,800 Did Ed create a suit from women's skin to become his mother? 1200 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:09,240 Did Ed's mother dominate him as much in death as in life? 1201 01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,680 Are Ed's victims trapped on the Gein farm 1202 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:20,960 where he committed horrific atrocities? 1203 01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,680 Gein was a sick and disturbed man. 1204 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,160 But what drove him to commit such heinous acts? 1205 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,120 Was it strictly mental illness? 1206 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:32,960 I think all of these things together make the haunting. 1207 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,320 And especially if a lot of tragedy has occurred on the land, 1208 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,920 that can create a haunting all by itself. 1209 01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,840 It created, essentially, an evil, an evil that existed there. 1210 01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:48,280 And that evil started not with Ed, but with his monster of a mother. 1211 01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,600 The Geins purchase the property, 1212 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:57,800 Augusta actually becomes more angry, more hateful. 1213 01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:08,040 And then we have somebody who is severely abused and mentally ill. 1214 01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,720 There are so many different parts of this case. 1215 01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,800 It's like a giant pot of soup. 1216 01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:20,680 Argh! The effect that Ed had on the community sadly lingered on 1217 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,720 way beyond his initial arrest. 1218 01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,640 There was no closure for the longest time, 1219 01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:39,520 because he was found mentally insane and not competent to stand trial. 1220 01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,640 And when he was finally declared competent to stand trial, 1221 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,680 he was convicted of first-degree murder for one of his two victims. 1222 01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,480 People around the world have actually become fascinated 1223 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:56,360 with the crimes of Ed Gein 1224 01:24:56,440 --> 01:24:59,440 and glorified what he did to his victims. 1225 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,760 It literally changed the face of the horror genre forever. 1226 01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:10,120 Mrs Bates. He inspired Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho. 1227 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:18,240 Characters like Leatherface from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. 1228 01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,880 He was Buffalo Bill from The Silence Of The Lambs. 1229 01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,080 So many movies were made about him because they're so extreme, 1230 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:27,960 they're so heinous. 1231 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,760 Look at this case. Look at Ed Gein literally committing homicide, 1232 01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:36,520 Mutilating corpses, taking their skin and body parts, 1233 01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:40,160 and putting it on his own body. Wearing a dead skin mask. 1234 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:44,680 Evil is very real. Like, the movie Psycho got it right. 1235 01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:47,720 That's exactly it. 1236 01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:54,000 I'm hearing it too. I hear it too. I was hearing it to. 1237 01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,640 Weird. I thought that was maybe one of your chairs. 1238 01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:00,880 Shall we cut for a second? It's strange, because the tapping to me 1239 01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,280 sounded like it was coming from the table. 1240 01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,840 It was like... That's what I thought too, but nobody was tapping. 1241 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,240 I thought maybe one of you was... No. No. 1242 01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,440 Strange. Really strange. I don't see a source. 1243 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,760 It's pretty clear that this case 1244 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,680 is still trying to affect us in some kind of way. 1245 01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,440 I was hearing it as well. Were you hearing it? Yeah. Yeah. 1246 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,120 In all honesty, I'm really worried about 1247 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,560 what's gonna happen after we leave. 1248 01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:32,200 Because... it seems to be a recurring theme 1249 01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:37,240 that once you encounter this energy, it doesn't really leave you. Right. 1250 01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:40,480 Evil exists. Evil is very real. 1251 01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:45,040 Plainfield is definitely haunted. 1252 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:50,400 I believe Ed, Augusta, and possibly Ed's victim, Mary, 1253 01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:52,800 are still present in this community. 1254 01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:56,200 Plainfield, Wisconsin, will always be known 1255 01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,440 for the heinous crimes of Ed Gein. 1256 01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,600 Before we leave town, Cindy and I wanna make one last stop 1257 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:13,360 to the Plainfield Cemetery and pay our respects to Ed's victims. 1258 01:27:13,440 --> 01:27:17,240 Bernice Worden is buried here, while Ed's other victim, Mary Hogan, 1259 01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,160 is buried at an undisclosed location. 1260 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:25,400 Bernice, we're terribly sorry about what took place 63 years ago. 1261 01:27:25,480 --> 01:27:29,600 We honour your memory...and we hope to keep your memory alive. 1262 01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,440 Although the town itself has tried to move on, 1263 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:41,240 it's clear that the spirit of both Augusta and Ed Gein still lurk here 1264 01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:44,000 haunting and preying on the community. 1265 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,720 Will their spirits ever be at rest, 1266 01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,040 or will they wander through Plainfield 1267 01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,720 searching for each other until they are reunited? 1268 01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:57,200 Will Plainfield, Wisconsin, ever be at peace? 1269 01:27:57,280 --> 01:27:59,280 Subtitles by Deluxe 99208

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