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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,040 And the door opened and Mani fell in the room 2 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,280 and Wreny just flopped on the...on the settee, 3 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,360 and then I realised they were all covered in paint. 4 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,520 They'd recorded a single called Sally Cinnamon 5 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,280 and their old record company had released it 6 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,400 as their next single without their permission. 7 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,600 They called into B&Q, the paint shop, 8 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,520 and went to his office and just threw paint everywhere 9 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,280 and jumped in the van and drove to Rockfield 10 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,760 and sat there waiting to see what the repercussions were. 11 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,040 I said, "Look, we're all set up. Let's get out there and record." 12 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,360 And they actually sat there and recorded 13 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,360 with the paint still in their hair. 14 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,040 The police turned up at eight o'clock the next morning, 15 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,520 arrested them, and got them all out of bed. 16 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,760 REPORTER: Gary Mounfield, John Squire, 17 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,040 Alan Wren and Ian Brown 18 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,840 arrived at Wolverhampton Crown Court to a noisy greeting 19 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,520 from about 30 fans. 20 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,560 MUSIC: Love Spreads by The Stone Roses 21 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,040 The second album with The Stone Roses 22 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,760 was done through an American record company. 23 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,520 Geffen were quite prepared to throw lots of money, 24 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:06,280 millions of pounds, at the band, to do whatever they wanted. 25 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,680 They told me, did I want to do the next session, 26 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,520 and it was The Stone Roses. 27 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,200 As you can imagine, 16, very exciting. 28 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,920 Yeah, what an opportunity. 29 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,040 A lot of pressure on them, but they just seemed relaxed. 30 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,040 From day one, it was great fun, absolutely great fun. 31 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,520 ANN: We had The Stone Roses here and two of the cows had calved. 32 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,760 "Oh, gosh, we must go out and see the calves," 33 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,760 so we had to take them across the meadow to see the calves. 34 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,960 NICK: Mani embraced life around here. He was out fishing, 35 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,640 he became great friends with a lot of the local lads. 36 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,520 Mani became such a part of Monmouth, shall we say. 37 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,440 He met his girlfriend here, they have a son together, 38 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,160 and they met in Monmouth when he was in Monmouth. 39 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,960 JOHN: They stayed there for 14 months. 40 00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,400 That album was called The Second Coming. 41 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,640 It was a long time coming. 42 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,120 LISA: There was one occasion that the executives from the label, 43 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,280 from America, were coming over and they flew over on Concorde. 44 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,040 It was a big, big deal. 45 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,680 And they all came down in their limos, 46 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,680 and they arrived here, and the band had gone. 47 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,520 Yeah, they went home. 48 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,320 They'd flown in and they, yeah, they went home. 49 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,760 And they'd taken the tapes as well, I think, 50 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,680 so we couldn't play them anything. 51 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,080 HE LAUGHS 52 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,680 The first time we went over there was when we went to fucking 53 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,480 have a little snoop on The Stone Roses, wasn't it? Yeah. 54 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,560 You drove the combine harvester over there... 55 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,160 Yeah. ..in the middle of the night. 56 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,400 Just, we were going, "What the fuck are they up to?!" 57 00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,240 Cos they hadn't been doing anything for years and we'd sort of... 58 00:49:59,240 --> 00:50:02,080 And I'm on about a proper combine harvester. Proper big one. 59 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,840 Ones that you've got to get ladders up to and it's like miles... 60 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,880 It's higher than that fucking roof. Yeah. 61 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,400 And he fucking starts it in one go and off we fucking go. 62 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,720 Irish blood. Crawling down the road with the big fucking lights on. 63 00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:15,800 It looked like fucking... It looked bonkers. 64 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,720 War Of The Worlds. And then we fucking... 65 00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:20,880 I think we drove it into the thing, turned the lights off, 66 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,520 and rolled over like something out of the Professionals 67 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,800 and fucking... # Dum-di, dum-di, dum-dum... # 68 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,400 Over the edge and then we fucking pops up and we could hear some 69 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,200 fucking bass line and drums going on. And then we kind of heard... 70 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,960 And then, I think we got caught and they brought us in, didn't they? 71 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,240 I don't think we brought the combine harvester back. 72 00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:37,400 Yeah, we left it there. 73 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,200 Very dangerous. Very dangerous, yeah. I think we got fucking caught 74 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,120 by someone and we went in, didn't we? Yeah. 75 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,720 Had a little chat with Ian Brown and a few people 76 00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:47,760 and they were playing some songs and stuff and we might have had 77 00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,600 a spliff and that and then I think we fucking fucked off. 78 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,400 And then, I think they did it the next night. 79 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,600 I think they come over... Mani turned up on a tractor. 80 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,880 On a tractor... Yeah. ..while we were in bed, and, so they say, 81 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,680 they robbed all of Guigsy's weed, all our weed and that. 82 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,840 We'd had one album, everything was going well, I think. 83 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,880 And I think the money might have started... 84 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,920 Maybe it might have started trickling in. Maybe it wasn't. 85 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,120 No, it was. Yeah, the money'd started coming in. 86 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,440 Sales had gone well. 87 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,520 Definitely Maybe was up there, wasn't it? 88 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,680 Yeah, so it was the second album, Morning Glory, 89 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,160 and I think we were completely still off our heads. 90 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,600 Yeah, it felt mega. It was like, you know... 91 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,400 It was like, that's what you sort of read about, you go, "Fucking 92 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,600 "hell, this is what it's fucking all about, this rock 'n' roll, man!" 93 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,400 You know, you lived there and you didn't leave the studio 94 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,720 until you had your album finished. 95 00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:38,920 It's like the Big Brother house, isn't it? But with tunes! Yeah. 96 00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:45,000 Our first album went to number one, it was like, I guess, 97 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,040 the height of the Manchester kind of boom thing. 98 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:55,040 Our manager at the time thought it was a good idea to send us 99 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,400 away to kind of write and record an album 100 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:04,240 and to spend six weeks in one space. But, um, you know, it was... 101 00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:07,480 It was a great idea, but it was also pretty nuts as well. 102 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,480 No distractions. Well, apart from going... Monmouth town centre. 103 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,840 Which was rocking, you know, there was two pubs there! Three, actually. 104 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,240 Was there three? Yeah, yeah! 105 00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:22,360 We were in the middle of the Welsh countryside, 106 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,680 with just other people who were kind of quite like-minded people. 107 00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:30,920 You could get up to whatever you wanted. 108 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:33,960 So, you did. 109 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,720 Could have gone to all these studios that had swimming pools 110 00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:40,080 and huge games rooms and restaurants and stuff, 111 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,640 but we'd rather just come and play with the cows 112 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:43,680 and stuff. 113 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,560 For, you know, young people in their mid twenties, it was ideal 114 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,680 because we were just into getting drunk 115 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,480 and taking drugs and making music. 116 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,520 There was no-one there telling you what you couldn't do. 117 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,640 As long as the work was getting done, you know, 118 00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,920 the record company would come down and check every now and again. 119 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:14,800 And Columbia turned up from America and the only person in the studio 120 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,760 was me and I was lying down with my head in the Leslie speaker, 121 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,120 tripping on acid, kind of just going round and round. 122 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,320 I'd been there for hours. 123 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,800 But, at the same time, we were getting our dinners 124 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,200 cooked for us, you know, Mother's there in the kitchen... 125 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,720 And the ladies who would come in and clean up for us. 126 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,120 We'd come in in the morning 127 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:45,400 and all our drugs would be lined out really neatly on the side for us. 128 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,320 So it was perfect. 129 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,240 Just perfect, yeah. 130 00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:52,720 The '90s was an amazing time. 131 00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:54,960 You know, we were booked nine months in advance, 132 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,280 both studios, back-to-back. 133 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,920 We would have a session leaving on a Monday morning 134 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,520 and they'd be loading out the one door 135 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,760 and the next session would be loading in the other door. 136 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,200 And it was constant. 137 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,640 But it was amazing time for guitar-based bands in British music. 138 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,480 You know, it absolutely was. 139 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,200 Why men in guitar bands? 140 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,240 I don't know. I don't really know why that would be. 141 00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:17,880 I suppose, at the time... I mean, obviously, there were 142 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,080 big female singers and stuff, weren't there? 143 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,120 And there were big female rock artists and stuff, 144 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,400 but we tended to get the men, that I can remem... 145 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,480 That I can think of. 146 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,360 Fucking... 147 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,240 Fucking...! 148 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,680 With Oasis, it was quick, it was fast, cos, obviously, 149 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,160 coming off the back of The Stone Roses album 150 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,400 that took 14 months, 151 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,040 erm, and then other albums that I'd done, they were fast. 152 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,920 We was kind of working on a song a day. 153 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,960 Noel would get in and he'd put a guide acoustic down, always. 154 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,080 Whitey'd nail the drums and it'd be like bass, in with the bass, Guigs, 155 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,920 me, him with the guitar, he'd do his overdubs, he'd come in and sing. 156 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,320 It was really quick 157 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,280 and I remember a really quick session, song after song. 158 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,960 That's cos there was like loads of pubs in town that we heard 159 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,880 that were good, you know what I mean? It was like, get in there 160 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,640 and fucking smash it out and then fucking pub! Pub. 161 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,440 For some... We just loved being in the pub. 162 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,120 What was Monmouth like? Full of pubs! 163 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,440 I'd do bits of engineering, keep the tape machines running, 164 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,080 set up all the microphones, you know, record the band. 165 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,600 Um, a lot of driving to the pub. 166 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,400 All hours. 167 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,520 You'd wait... 168 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,040 Obviously, you'd wait until you get your stuff done and that, 169 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,680 but as soon as you get your stuff done, 170 00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,600 if that was done at one in the afternoon... Pub. 171 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,920 ..you'd be in the pub by ten past one, you know what I mean? 172 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,280 Did you ever work...? 173 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,040 Carry on doing stuff when you got back from the pub at night? 174 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,720 You'd have a go. You'd have a go, but it'd be fucking... 175 00:55:49,720 --> 00:55:51,520 You'd sound like The Pogues. 176 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,440 Yeah, I mean, I would just go to the pub till we came back 177 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,400 and I would drive everyone back, you know. 178 00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,640 Obviously, somebody had to remain sober 179 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,880 because we were on tape back in them days. 180 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:04,320 There was a little bit of debate on who was going to sing Wonderwall. 181 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,760 Noel was going to sing Wonderwall and Liam was going to sing 182 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,160 Wonderwall, then Noel said, 183 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,160 "OK, I'll sing Don't Look Back In Anger," 184 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,560 and then Liam was... 185 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,280 Wanted to sing Don't Look Back In Anger, 186 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,400 so there was the debate on who was going to sing what. 187 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,560 Everyone wanted to make the songs the best they could 188 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:18,880 and Noel wanted to do it too 189 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,120 and if that breeded a bit of fucking competition, 190 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,720 then so be it, you know what I mean, 191 00:56:22,720 --> 00:56:23,960 I didn't want to go in there, 192 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,920 be better than Bonehead, or better than Guigs, 193 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,640 I just wanted to go and be better than me, 194 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,920 you know what I mean? I wanted to go and do my thing and... 195 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,160 I just wanted... 196 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,280 When I'd hear them putting the songs on, I'd go, 197 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,600 "Right, this fucking tune needs a banging vocal, 198 00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,280 "so hopefully I can deliver it," you know what I mean? 199 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,360 What did you think of Wonderwall when you first...? 200 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,320 I didn't like it at first. I thought it was a bit funky and I thought... 201 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,560 I thought it sounded like a reggae song to me. Yeah. 202 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,600 Proper sounded like a reggae song. 203 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,480 Yeah. I thought, "What's going on?!" It's weird. 204 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,760 # Today is gonna be the day that they're gonna throw it back to you 205 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,360 # By now you should've somehow realised what you gotta do 206 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,200 # I don't believe that anybody 207 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,280 # Feels the way I do, about you now... # 208 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,080 How long did it take you to record the vocal for Wonderwall? 209 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,760 Not long because the fucking party was happy hour... 210 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,840 Saturday night, wasn't it? Two for one! 211 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,720 Yeah, yeah, I think it was like... Two for one. 212 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,760 It was early doors, man! 213 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,880 So I just whipped that down in about 30 seconds, man. 214 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,440 # I don't believe that anybody 215 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,200 # Feels the way I do about you now 216 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,880 # And all the roads we have to walk are winding... # 217 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,760 I remember doing Wonderwall, had to set him up on the wall, 218 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,000 outside the Coach House studio. 219 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,440 So I've set the mics up up there and he's doing... 220 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,520 The guide guitars for Wonderwall were done on top of the wall. 221 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,080 So, I'd been into town... Oh, yeah. 222 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,880 Probably had a couple of lagers, but I bought a remote control car, 223 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,080 right? Proper... You know, big fat wheels on it. 224 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,360 And I'm looking out the lounge and I see Noel sat up on a wall 225 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,480 with loads of microphones on him, outside with an acoustic guitar. 226 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,440 And I was like, "What the fuck?! What's he doing?!" 227 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,680 And he's trying to catch the atmosphere, you know, 228 00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,040 the birds singing and all that stuff. 229 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,400 So I was like, "I'm getting him!" 230 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,240 So I've got this car and I'm like, "I'm not having this!" Fucking... 231 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,520 So, I was like... Got it into first gear, so this car's like, "Zim-zim!" 232 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,040 I can see Noel's head like... 233 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,680 In his headphones, "What the fuck's that noise?! 234 00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,880 "Is that a bird?!" You know what I mean! Fuck it, man! Yeah, yeah! 235 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,760 # You're gonna be the one that saves me... # 236 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,640 We would definitely have a few little nights 237 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,480 where we were all very pleased with our work 238 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,920 and that and we'd go, 239 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,680 "Shall we listen to it back five million times and fucking..." 240 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,320 Double loud. "..pat each other on the back and that." 241 00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:00,920 We definitely did a lot of that. 242 00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,280 This one night, we were sleeping in the front of the house, 243 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,440 and they were working in the Coach House studio 244 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:14,880 and we'd gone to bed, 245 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:19,480 normally, I suppose, I don't know, 11, 12 o'clock, something like that. 246 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:25,240 And we couldn't get to sleep because we could hear the music so loud. 247 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:29,800 Kingsley kept saying, "I hope the villagers can't hear it." 248 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,600 We stuck it out to four o'clock 249 00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,360 and Kingsley said, "It's no good. 250 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,360 "We're going to have to tell them to stop it." 251 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,840 So I came down the stairs, came out through the back, 252 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,240 and as I got to the studios, the outside door was open 253 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,440 and the inner door was wide open. 254 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,400 I was standing there like this. And I could see them going, "It's Ann! 255 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,600 "It's Ann!" And of course, he switched all the lights on then. 256 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,160 "Oh, Ann, Ann, sorry... Er, is there a problem?" 257 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:57,920 "Well, yes, there is, actually." 258 00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,320 I said, "Kingsley and I haven't been able to get to sleep 259 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,800 "because of the music." 260 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,400 And I said, "I don't know what the villagers are like, but could I ask 261 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,560 "you to close the outside doors, 262 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,480 "or at least both doors, while you carry on?" 263 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,680 "Oh, right. OK. Right, thanks, Ann. Thank you." 264 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,640 And they apologised to Ann the next day. 265 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,760 # Wake up, it's a beautiful morning 266 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:26,360 # Wake up, it's a beautiful morning 267 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,080 # Wake up, it's a beautiful morning... # 268 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,880 Shall I turn this off...? 269 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,440 As soon as I started playing it, 270 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,360 as soon as I played those three chords, 271 01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,680 I knew it was going to be something different. 272 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,560 I really like minor chords. 273 01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,280 I really like soul music cos it's like uplifting 274 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,600 but sad at the same time. 275 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,080 I wanted to get a brass section in. 276 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,040 And I'd sent them a demo and a couple of notes and they turned up. 277 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,440 I think it was Tom Jones's brass section. 278 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,480 And it was so cheerful, what they were playing, I was aghast. 279 01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:19,360 "Can you not just...flatten a few notes there?" 280 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,680 And they did and they still... It's just too chirpy for me. 281 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,880 # Summer's gone, days spent... # 282 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,760 "Summer's gone, days spent with the grass and the sun." 283 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,640 I was trying to get drug references in! 284 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,960 But as soon as those first three chords, we just went for it. 285 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,360 # Wake up, it's a beautiful morning 286 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,400 # The sun shining for your eyes... # 287 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,720 I think everybody were pinning their hopes on that one track. 288 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,040 It just got played everywhere. 289 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,280 I mean, it still gets played everywhere. 290 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,320 I don't know who plays it. Someone's playing it all the time. 291 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,000 Rockfield now was rocketing, and, in 1997, 292 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,440 out of the top ten albums, Rockfield had seven in the top ten. 293 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:03,840 I can't remember who they were, 294 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,800 but we know that seven of the top ten were done at Rockfield. 295 01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:14,920 OK? We grew up in South Wales. Rockfield, it's a legendary place. 296 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,000 It was the first ever residential recording 297 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,120 studio in the world, apparently. 298 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,080 Kingsley says! Kingsley! 299 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,760 It was definitely James who drove us there, to go there in '97. 300 01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,240 And we came out with 301 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,200 If You Tolerate This. We thought it was a B side. 302 01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,360 We went to Rockfield 303 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,400 and the magic dust turned it into our, 304 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,920 you know, biggest number one. 305 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,720 One, two, three, four, five... It's only six chords in the song. 306 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,320 You know, it's a really simple song. 307 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,440 Um, and, like, you know, of course you've got the, like, you know... 308 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,200 # The future teaches you to be alone 309 01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,000 # The present to be afraid and cold 310 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:08,680 # So if I can shoot rabbits, then I can shoot fascists... # 311 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,120 It was the last time we'd ever really committed anything 312 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,000 just to tape without any... 313 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,600 The aid of Pro Tools or the digital morass of stuff 314 01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,640 that you have around, new tech, to help make records now. 315 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,520 And it was quite effortless. 316 01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,920 But that was the thing about Rockfield. 317 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,000 If something was sounding good, you just didn't mess with it. 318 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,640 # And if you tolerate this 319 01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,640 # Then your children will be next 320 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,720 # And if you tolerate this 321 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,360 # Then your children will be next 322 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,240 # Will be next, will be next, will be next... # 323 01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:01,280 Rob Collins, keyboard player. He didn't really speak very much, 324 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,240 but he really drove the band. 325 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,680 Turned up on a Monday and Rob was playing that... This riff. 326 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,200 Turned up on Tuesday, he was still playing this riff. 327 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,960 # Da, doodle-da, da, duh-duh... # 328 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,080 And by the end of the week, he was still playing it and I said, 329 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,400 "You thought about putting any other chords in there, Rob?" 330 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:23,920 Got to the following week 331 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,320 and a couple of chords to throw in on your riff. 332 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,440 # One to another 333 01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,800 # Sister and a brother 334 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,200 # And it's changing the way that you feel 335 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,560 # Pleased to meet you 336 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,000 # Hope I never see you 337 01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,840 # I'll be at ease watchin' you sleep 338 01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,840 # Watchin' you smile... # 339 01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,360 The whole thing just kind of grew and we just played around with 340 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,400 the sounds in the studio and we did a load of overdubs. 341 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,560 # Love, I adore you 342 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,160 # Always lookin' for you... # 343 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,480 We just knew that we had this magic, modern Northern Soul stomper. 344 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,760 You know, just very enthusiastic time 345 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,240 and all of us sort of, like, dancing on 346 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,080 the mixing desk and, you know, crazy times. 347 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,760 We were all taking a lot of drugs at the time. Er... 348 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,240 I can't speak on behalf of everybody in the band, but I was. 349 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,600 Yeah. 350 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,720 Who were the most hedonistic in the band? 351 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,680 Me and Rob. 352 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,680 Rob Collins, 353 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,040 our keyboard player. 354 01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,240 We experimented with different ways of... 355 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,240 Of getting deeper into our music. 356 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,880 That was the idea, anyway. 357 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,600 And experiment with each other as well. 358 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,200 You know, as people. We were like human experiments. 359 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,520 You know, Rob would go clubbing quite a lot in Bristol and then come 360 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,760 back and, you know, early hours and then sort of, like, do little bits. 361 01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:07,560 We'd have a song and we'd wake up the next day 362 01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,480 and it had become like, you know, an acid house track! 363 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,960 And then, we'd be like, "What the fuck is this?!" You know, and... 364 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,720 And then, bring it back to something else. 365 01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:26,360 What had happened that night? Just, like, ecstasy. 366 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:30,440 But then, that's pulling and manipulating 367 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,760 and working things out and stretching things, 368 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,120 which I think is an amazing thing, so it was a struggle, 369 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,080 but I don't know, it was pretty good. 370 01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,560 Listening to Tellin' Stories now, you know, 371 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,480 it's just the most vibrant-sounding thing. 372 01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,480 We did all of it in Rockfield, that album. 373 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:48,680 Although, to be honest, 374 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,120 we would swap and sort of like go to Monnow Valley 375 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,800 and then come back to Rockfield to do vocals and things like that. 376 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,200 So, you know, Tellin' Stories was the last one that we did there. 377 01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,240 But you know, as you know, it kind of all... 378 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,240 You know, it kind of ended there as well. 379 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,920 The first time was so easy, it was really easy. 380 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,520 We were getting on really well. 381 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:17,440 Whereas the last album, Kingsize, we weren't getting on very well. 382 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,600 It's weird because Rockfield enhances your experience, 383 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,280 so if you're having a great time, 384 01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,240 it's just the best place in the world. 385 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,640 And if you're not, then you're just getting on each other's nerves. 386 01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,400 Because you are in that... 387 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,440 Pushed together in that place, there's nowhere else to go, really. 388 01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,760 The magic goes out of the walls. 389 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:51,840 Being in a residential studio, it's 24/7. 390 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,240 At the end of the day, it's a very intense relationship within 391 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,840 bands and you're talking with... 392 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,760 About creative people, aren't you? 393 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:04,920 You know, and with that creativity comes high emotion, shall we say? 394 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,680 And it all gets magnified in a place like this. 395 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,440 The trouble with being in a residential studios 396 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,040 for a long period of time, 397 01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,640 they start off all great friends, 398 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,840 and, eventually, it starts to get a bit edgy. 399 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,440 Bands are either the type that do this or they fall apart. 400 01:08:24,440 --> 01:08:25,960 A bit like families, isn't it? 401 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,160 Cos I don't play any instruments, you know what I mean? 402 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,640 And a lot of the... All the rest of the band play an instrument. 403 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,520 I sort of do my singing and I'd be sort of bored, 404 01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,680 do you know what I mean? 405 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,040 So then I'd be sort of just going and twiddling my thumbs 406 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,240 and I'd think, "I'm fucking going to the boozer," 407 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,400 so I'd be in the pub most of the time with whoever. 408 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,080 So then I'd bring a few people back and I think that's when... 409 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,160 I think that's when it all went a bit tits up with me and Noel 410 01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:52,840 because I think... 411 01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,200 I don't know where he'd gone, somewhere, but like loads of 412 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,880 people come back and started looking at his guitars and shit 413 01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:59,800 and you're not allowed to look at his guitars. 414 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:00,840 And it all went a bit... 415 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,400 Yeah, had a little argument and then that was it. 416 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,200 I think we had a little bit of a... 417 01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,200 It was a proper fight. Proper brawl. 418 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,280 Yeah, cricket bats and air rifles and... Dustbins. 419 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,720 Noel might have used the cricket bat to hit me, 420 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,840 or just wave it at my head. I don't remember much, but... 421 01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,240 We had air rifles. We locked them up. Yeah. 422 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,880 They got locked up cos they might have got used. 423 01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,400 There was just a lot of running around and fucking throwing shit 424 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,560 at people and I just remember him getting in the car and driving off 425 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,880 and I was stood there like a fucking wild bastard, just going, 426 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,920 "Come on, you fucking shitbag!" 427 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,760 Didn't you throw a dustbin at the car, or something? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 428 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:36,880 Yeah, I might have, yeah. 429 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,480 As it was flying up the drive, yeah. Yeah, I should have... Yeah. 430 01:09:39,480 --> 01:09:42,000 Just little things, but them little things are just little. 431 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,360 You know what I mean? It's the craic, innit? 432 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,680 Was that one of the biggest fights you ever had with Noel? 433 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,200 Probably, yeah. It was one of them. But... It was a proper one. 434 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,320 As fights went, it was a good one. 435 01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,680 It was carnage! 436 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,800 You know, some things got broken, some... 437 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,480 I mean, here, I didn't really know what to make of all that 438 01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:02,640 cos it was the first time I'd kind of seen something like that. 439 01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:03,960 I wasn't used to it. 440 01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:08,200 But everybody here seemed to take it in their stride, you know. 441 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,560 I think they'd seen it all before, so nothing was going to shock them. 442 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,600 So, yeah, they just cleaned it up the next day 443 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,040 and it was like nothing had happened. 444 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,000 Yeah, I think Noel went home. 445 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,120 He's always been a bit like that, you know what I mean? 446 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,960 "What are you doing, bringing people back when we're working?" 447 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,440 And I get it, you know what I mean? 448 01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:28,920 But my argument would be, "What you doing fucking taking 900 449 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,600 "takes to fucking do one guitar riff 450 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,800 "when you should be in the fuckin pub with me?!" 451 01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,360 Do you know what I mean? Entertaining me! 452 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,440 Were you close at that stage? Yeah, super close. We're all close. Yeah. 453 01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:42,560 Not as... We weren't like Bros or anything. 454 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,440 We weren't fucking like... Like fucking Jedward, do you know 455 01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:48,120 what I mean? Jedward! You know what I mean? We weren't like... 456 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,240 We'd just go, "All right." And he'd go, "All right," 457 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,000 and then that would be it, know what I mean? 458 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,640 That was the story of the band's life really. 459 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,600 It'd sort of be good one minute and then it'd be chaotic the next. 460 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,040 Until the poor lad had enough one night in Paris. 461 01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:05,040 And then he took his bottle home. 462 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,880 And that was when you split? That was when we split, yeah. 463 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,840 But is the same stuff that was between you 464 01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,880 that caused the arguments, the same stuff that made it also good? 465 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,840 Yeah. We were bang into it 24/7. 466 01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,280 We were also, which is our downfall... 467 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,560 We were also into fucking the other side of it as well. 468 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,480 The party side of it, you know what I mean? 469 01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:26,040 Like, all these bands that sit there 470 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,560 and go, "Yeah, we're fucking great." Yeah, you're great. 471 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,920 You were shit at getting off your box though, weren't you? 472 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,640 So, youse lot can go. You know what I mean? 473 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,200 We were good at being in the studio and we were also good at 474 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,880 being in the pub, you know what I mean? 475 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,240 And I'm proud of that, as much as I am of the great vocals 476 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,360 and the fucking takes in the studio, you know what I mean? 477 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,880 We were fucking into the whole thing, man. 478 01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,600 # How many special people change? 479 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,800 # How many lives are living strange? 480 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:56,520 # Where were you while we were getting high? # 481 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,760 We were walking and talking in a certain manner and singing 482 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,320 and whatever and playing in a certain manner 483 01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,680 that it had to go off, you know what I mean? 484 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,560 The music went with what we were saying. 485 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,480 Had swagger, you know what I mean? 486 01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:12,640 # Someday you will find me 487 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,080 # Caught beneath the landslide... # 488 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,400 I felt we enjoyed the life, you know what I mean? 489 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,240 Can you hear that in the record, do you think? I think so, yeah. 490 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:25,320 Definitely. There's a happy vibe on that album, I think. 491 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,800 It's all... You know what? It's all a bit of a blur, really. Um... 492 01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,440 We'd been to one of the... 493 01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:45,360 One of the pubs in the town. 494 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,880 It was the furthest one 495 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,480 from Monnow Valley. 496 01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,840 There'd been a bit of an argument over, um, one of the guys who 497 01:12:55,840 --> 01:13:01,560 was doing some extra mixing on the record. 498 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,240 We'd had a bit of a barney with Rob about it. 499 01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,600 I said, "Come on, let's go. Let's get out of here. 500 01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,200 "Let's go," and you know, it was fine. 501 01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:15,800 Rob had a half a lager and he was playing the bandit all night, 502 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,960 which was what he liked to do. 503 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,840 So, me and Mark went back. Rob was driving behind us. 504 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:28,120 From Monmouth town, it's quite like windy roads. 505 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,920 Lots of hedges and lots of corners and stuff like that, lots of fields. 506 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:36,960 And he was speeding up and he was kind of, you know, being crazy, 507 01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,720 like something in a film. 508 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,920 And then all of a sudden, just disappeared. 509 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,520 We all thought that he'd taken a detour 510 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,160 to go and get some supplies, or something. 511 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,880 You know, and didn't really think much about it at all. 512 01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:59,520 Maybe about 45 minutes went by and the police came round. 513 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:04,440 And said that you should get yourself to Abergavenny Hospital. 514 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,480 And that's when I thought, "Oh, what's he done? 515 01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:12,480 "What's he done now?" 516 01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:15,520 And me and Mark went to the hospital and... 517 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,520 ..I heard it on the radio. 518 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,480 It was just going through my head, the lyrics, 519 01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:23,800 every lyric that was in it, it was just like, you know, 520 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,440 "One to another, sister and a brother, 521 01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:26,800 "changing the way that you..." 522 01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,800 You know, it just kind of felt like it was... I just knew that... 523 01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:34,040 I knew what I was going to face when we got there. 524 01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,520 We knew The Charlatans. We knew them pretty well. 525 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,640 And I do remember just one night and I was here, happened to be 526 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,640 staying here, and you can hear the main road and I just heard 527 01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,800 this car driving incredibly fast 528 01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:52,120 down the road, and then you heard sort of the du-du-du-duh of 529 01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:53,680 them going over cat's eyes. 530 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,560 And you thought, "God! He is going at some pace," you know. 531 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:57,840 "He's driving fast." 532 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,800 And there's a really nasty deceptive bend at the end of our meadow. 533 01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,760 And then you heard the crash. 534 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,600 What happened? And he'd... He'd just... 535 01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,120 The car, I guess, had gone too fast round the corner 536 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,360 and had gone out of control, turned the car over. 537 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,480 You know, and when we found out that it was Rob... 538 01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:17,440 You know, it was just awful. 539 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,040 You know, Rob... Rob was... 540 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,360 He was the first person who ever put me up, you know. 541 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,120 When I went to see The Charlatans, 542 01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,480 he was the first person who put me up 543 01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:39,520 and I stayed at his house 544 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,600 and we'd listen to people's records 545 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,720 and talked about how we were going to change the world. 546 01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,400 We talked about all that all the way through, 547 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,320 you know, the times of making records. 548 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:55,080 And with Tellin' Stories, he's on it, a lot of the recordings, 549 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:59,840 we tried to keep as much of his stuff intact as we could. 550 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,760 And, yeah, he's always going to be a part of that record, 551 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,960 he's always going to be a part of Rockfield. 552 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:06,240 He died there, you know. 553 01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,840 And, um, he's always going to be part of the Rockfield story. 554 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,560 And I think some of his ashes are scattered there as well. 555 01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,240 But, um, you know, he's not gone, 556 01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,440 he's just in a different dimension, yeah. 557 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,120 One, two. One, two. 558 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:25,960 It's good for me. 559 01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,200 He's playing tonight. 560 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,360 It's... We... 561 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:40,000 From those times, you know, we run like little samples and loops 562 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,000 and Rob's been on tour with us since... 563 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,440 Since he died. 564 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:58,960 Feels quite comforting, you know, when you're playing and... 565 01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,200 And, you know, every night that we play, 566 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,400 you know, that they're still playing. 567 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,520 # Pleased to meet you... # 568 01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,800 The isolation and the place allowed us to create our own world 569 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,640 and we captured... We captured... 570 01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,840 You know, the rooms allowed us to capture that 571 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,920 and I'm forever grateful about that. 572 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:21,920 I love it. So many amazing memories there, such a positive place. 573 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:27,520 MUSIC: CORO A BOCCA CHIUSA FROM MADAME BUTTERFLY BY PUCCINI 574 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:53,360 As I remember, it was 1999. 575 01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,800 We had just been students and then after that, we were cleaners a bit. 576 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,960 We had never recorded out of London before. 577 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,280 We'd never really recorded before, to be honest. 578 01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:09,160 We'd done one session a few months before in London, 579 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,120 which hadn't gone so well. 580 01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,160 So we were going there, it was kind of a make-or-break session. 581 01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:21,080 I think we knew absolutely nothing about Rockfield 582 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,720 before we went there and, I mean, 583 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,080 I remember sort of vividly when we turned up 584 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,320 when we drove down, it was like a little unmade road 585 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:28,480 and there was cows. 586 01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,080 And I sort of wondered what on earth we were doing there. 587 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,920 So it was our first real dip into a proper recording studio 588 01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,640 and we'd heard that The Stone Roses had spent 589 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,320 about two and a half years there 590 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,400 or something like that, or maybe more. 591 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:52,560 By the time we got to Rockfield, it was like, this is your... 592 01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:56,080 You know, we'd been given kind of six months to get used to 593 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,000 being signed and stuff and then our label were like, 594 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,240 "You've got to kind of make it happen now." 595 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,680 So it was very much like some sort of musical Hogwarts, you know. 596 01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,600 We were sent away to figure it out. 597 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,200 We were recording a song called Shiver. 598 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,320 And we went outside to have, like, a breather 599 01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,560 and it was just so beautiful outside. 600 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,880 All four of us were outside 601 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:31,520 and Ken and he was like, "Look up there, lads! 602 01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,160 "Look at the stars." 603 01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,880 He literally said, "Look at the stars," 604 01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,520 which is the first line of that song 605 01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,000 and it was really mindblowing. 606 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,560 We'd been in London for, like, five years, 607 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,120 so we hadn't really seen anything 608 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:44,960 beyond smog for a while. 609 01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:48,040 So that line was in my head 610 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,000 and then, I was thinking about 611 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,880 how Neil Young sings the word "stars" like, 612 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,600 "Starrs... Starrrs..." 613 01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,720 Like he does a sort of bend in it. 614 01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,480 So then I went back in to try and do this acoustic. 615 01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,560 So... 616 01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:05,640 So a normal tuning... 617 01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,040 That isn't it. 618 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:11,120 Right? 619 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,400 So we had this song called Shiver, which is like this. 620 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,680 Which was like our attempt at a Jeff Buckley song. 621 01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,040 And we were recording that. 622 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,920 Anyway, I went back in to sit behind the control desk, 623 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,640 mixing desk, waiting, 624 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:35,040 and something was wrong with, uh, the machine, 625 01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,160 so I was waiting, and I saw... 626 01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,880 Then I... Then that chord, I started doing that. 627 01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,760 And I started thinking about Neil Young and I was like... 628 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,280 # Stars... # 629 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,600 I was just messing around! 630 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,800 This is really the very humble beginnings. 631 01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:54,640 # For you... # 632 01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,640 Then I tried like a... That's a normal chord shape. 633 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,520 But it sounds different in this tuning. 634 01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,520 I don't even know what that chord is. 635 01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,120 I was just doing that. 636 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,320 Then I got the title from the Yellow Pages, 637 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,840 which was about a 45 degree angle over there. 638 01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:18,880 # They were all... # 639 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,920 I was looking for a word which was like uhhh, ehhh... 640 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,480 Yellow... 641 01:21:23,480 --> 01:21:25,560 So then I thought, "I like this." 642 01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,520 So then I went through. 643 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,800 Everyone else was watching football, I think. 644 01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,320 And I said, "Guys, what you think about this?" 645 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,120 And they were like, "Yeah, that's OK." 646 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,000 They weren't particularly interested. 647 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,000 And then I went into the bathroom in the living-room area. 648 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,600 And then the chorus came out, uh... 649 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,640 # Your skin 650 01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,840 # Oh, yeah, your skin and bones... # 651 01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,400 Then I showed them that and they were like, "Yeah, we like that." 652 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,800 And that gave us our lives for... 653 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,600 ..for the last 16 years. 654 01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,600 CROWD NOISE BUILDS 655 01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,760 One, two, three, four. 656 01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,040 # Look at the stars 657 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,200 # Look how they shine for you 658 01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,840 # Everything you do 659 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,760 # Yeah, they were all yellow... # 660 01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:39,920 What was it about? 661 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,560 What's it about? I don't know. 662 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,520 Just someone awesome. 663 01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,280 Was it about someone specific? No. 664 01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:50,040 Most of our songs are about someone or something awesome. 665 01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:54,280 Whether that's a person or a girl or a child or a... 666 01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:59,320 ..entity or...a figurative way of speaking about the Earth. 667 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,000 We're always banging on about love and amazingness. 668 01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,040 And I think we always will. 669 01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,000 # Oh, what a thing to have done 670 01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,320 # And it was all yellow... # 671 01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,960 I think that session at Rockfield helped us, 672 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:21,480 uh...kind of solidify who we were 673 01:23:21,480 --> 01:23:23,280 and what we were trying to do as a band. 674 01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,760 The sound of our first album really came from Rockfield Studios 675 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,960 and that sort of back-to-basics mentality 676 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,760 that was imposed upon us there. 677 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:39,120 Well, good songs will always be written all over the place, 678 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,480 but I think what is changing 679 01:23:41,480 --> 01:23:45,400 is that studios are going out of business all over the world, 680 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,880 because of the ease of which you can now record on computers and whatnot, 681 01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,720 and also there's not that many people willing 682 01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:57,400 to put a band of four kind of just post-teenagers, 683 01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,320 you know, in an expensive studio situation 684 01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,320 and let them stay there for a month and see what happens, you know, 685 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,120 not that many record companies are taking risks like that. 686 01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,440 Rockfield will always be a part of me, 687 01:24:12,440 --> 01:24:14,440 because we started Black Sabbath there, 688 01:24:14,440 --> 01:24:16,400 I started my solo career there. 689 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,480 I can go and live in Beverly Hills, 690 01:24:19,480 --> 01:24:22,800 but for some reason, I end up back in Rockfield. 691 01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,200 It all helped to create what we did. 692 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,800 It's... It's just magic. 693 01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,120 I loved... 694 01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,680 I loved being in residential studios, 695 01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,000 I fucking loved it. 696 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,920 You're a proper band, aren't you, when you're in there? 697 01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,360 Who knows, man? I mean, music's done differently now. 698 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:51,440 I do a lot of my stuff fucking through e-mails, man. 699 01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:54,080 You know, they fucking e-mail you the drums and that these days 700 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,520 and go, "I'll e-mail you the fucking high hat." 701 01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,440 In ten years' time, you've got half a tune done. 702 01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:01,040 It's more of an old school vibe. 703 01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,920 Where's the vibe of that, you know what I mean? 704 01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,160 Well, I'm still struggling on, 705 01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,080 trying to make records and write songs. 706 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,880 Where do you do it now? 707 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,600 Up in my loft, yeah. 708 01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,880 Well, I can do anything up there that we did in...in Rockfield. 709 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,960 Nowadays, with equipment, you know, for recording, 710 01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,320 all you need is a laptop, really. 711 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,760 When you're recording on a computer, you know, 712 01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,960 your song can be performed perfectly. 713 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:31,840 It might take you a good few weeks 714 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,440 tweaking it and fiddling around and stuff, 715 01:25:34,440 --> 01:25:37,840 but it does have the potential for perfection. 716 01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,360 But perfection is not always what you want. 717 01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,200 You want something that has emotion and feeling. 718 01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,280 You have to capture some magic. 719 01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:50,440 And some mystery, you know - magic is mystery as well, you know? 720 01:25:50,440 --> 01:25:52,760 There's often, you know, something... 721 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,520 Maybe The Stone Roses record, there's a lot of mystery about it, 722 01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,680 which is why people still listen to it. 723 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:04,640 Since our times at Rockfield, we've built our own place 724 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:08,000 kind of to try and give ourselves 725 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:09,840 that same sort of freedom. 726 01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,760 It's not as good as Rockfield, no way, 727 01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,880 but I like to make records, 728 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,120 and I'm really passionate about making records. 729 01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,240 Charles and Kingsley were passionate about making recording studios, 730 01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,240 and making them the best studios in the world. 731 01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,960 And they have achieved that. 732 01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,880 We were very, very lucky. 733 01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,040 But we... 734 01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,080 ..we turned the recording world upside down. 735 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:47,680 BASS GUITAR RIFF 736 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,680 PERCUSSION STARTS AND STOPS 737 01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:55,840 # Charming little woman, oh 738 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,800 # Who can set a man to rights? 739 01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,960 # Charming little woman, oh 740 01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:02,040 # Who can hoax and coax you too? 741 01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,040 # Who can beat you black and blue? 742 01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,080 # Who can love you better too? 743 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,040 # Charming little woman, oh. # 744 01:27:09,480 --> 01:27:11,640 I was so excited about being here, 745 01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,240 because of mainly Queen, to be honest. 746 01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,960 Have you encountered Kingsley and Ann yet? 747 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,440 I have, I've met them. 748 01:27:18,440 --> 01:27:21,960 We met Kingsley yesterday morning, 749 01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,440 and he was out riding around on his tractor, 750 01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:28,760 and he was very sort of grumpy 751 01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,080 about people coming to sit on the Wonderwall, 752 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:32,640 and then he rode past in his tractor 753 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,120 and got a massive puncture, pfft, like that! 754 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,840 And, yeah, he's been fabulously grumpy 755 01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,600 the whole time we've been here, actually. 756 01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,000 Grumpy and also welcoming and full of stories. 757 01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,760 We work seven days a week, as we always have done. 758 01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,000 We're a leisure-based company today. We do a lot of holiday lets. 759 01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:06,040 We do a lot of masterclasses, our recording. 760 01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,800 We're the milking stool. 761 01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,000 With a milking stool, it's always on three legs. 762 01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,320 If you start on one leg, you fall over. 763 01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,080 Two legs, no good. Four legs, you will rock. 764 01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,120 But three legs, you're steady, cos you can't rock. 765 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,880 The holiday lets cannot believe their good luck when they come, 766 01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,600 because I give them a tour. 767 01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:30,000 There's so amazed at where they are that they can't believe it. 768 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,240 No fighting! 769 01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,320 No fighting. Don't have a go at me. 770 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,080 My mum always says the animals are her sanity, you know, 771 01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,680 because there is something wonderful 772 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,200 about beginning and ending your day with animals. 773 01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,720 Whether that be, you know, feeding the cows first thing in the morning, 774 01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,160 letting the chickens out first thing in the morning, 775 01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,440 walking the dogs, mucking out the stables. 776 01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:09,160 And then, at the end of the day, 777 01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,480 get the horses settled for the night in the stables. 778 01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:17,040 Beginning and ending a day with animals, for me, anyway, 779 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,600 and I think it's the same 780 01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,920 for my parents, definitely, and my sister... 781 01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,880 I just think that, you know, nature is a leveller, 782 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,400 it's grounding, it centres you. 783 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,440 And I think that's really important somewhere here. 784 01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:39,480 It's about being a part of something way bigger than you. 785 01:29:39,480 --> 01:29:42,280 You're a part of something else, rather than just it. 786 01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,480 Very important for rock stars! 787 01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,800 Well, you've got to do something with your life. 788 01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,960 Never give in, keep going. 789 01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,600 The best is yet to come. 790 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:29,240 # How long has this been going on? 791 01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:36,960 # How long has this been going on? 792 01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,480 # Well, if friends with their fancy persuasion 793 01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:46,560 # Don't admit that it's part of a scheme 794 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,120 # But I can't help but have my suspicion 795 01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:54,160 # Cos I ain't quite as dumb as I seem 796 01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:58,520 # And you said you was never intending 797 01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:02,080 # To break up our scene in this way 798 01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:05,920 # But there ain't any use in pretending 799 01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:09,320 # It could happen to us any day 800 01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:16,000 # How long has this been going on? # 67371

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