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And the door opened
and Mani fell in the room
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and Wreny just flopped
on the...on the settee,
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and then I realised
they were all covered in paint.
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They'd recorded a single
called Sally Cinnamon
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and their old record company
had released it
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as their next single
without their permission.
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They called into B&Q,
the paint shop,
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and went to his office
and just threw paint everywhere
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and jumped in the van
and drove to Rockfield
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and sat there waiting to see
what the repercussions were.
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I said, "Look, we're all set up.
Let's get out there and record."
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And they actually sat there
and recorded
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with the paint still in their hair.
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The police turned up at
eight o'clock the next morning,
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arrested them,
and got them all out of bed.
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REPORTER: Gary Mounfield,
John Squire,
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Alan Wren and Ian Brown
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arrived at Wolverhampton Crown Court
to a noisy greeting
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from about 30 fans.
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MUSIC: Love Spreads
by The Stone Roses
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The second album
with The Stone Roses
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was done through
an American record company.
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Geffen were quite prepared
to throw lots of money,
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millions of pounds, at the band,
to do whatever they wanted.
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They told me, did I want to do
the next session,
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and it was The Stone Roses.
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As you can imagine, 16,
very exciting.
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Yeah, what an opportunity.
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A lot of pressure on them,
but they just seemed relaxed.
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From day one, it was great fun,
absolutely great fun.
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ANN: We had The Stone Roses here
and two of the cows had calved.
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"Oh, gosh, we must go out
and see the calves,"
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so we had to take them across
the meadow to see the calves.
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NICK: Mani embraced life around
here. He was out fishing,
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he became great friends
with a lot of the local lads.
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Mani became such a part
of Monmouth, shall we say.
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He met his girlfriend here,
they have a son together,
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and they met in Monmouth
when he was in Monmouth.
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JOHN: They stayed there
for 14 months.
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That album was called
The Second Coming.
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It was a long time coming.
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LISA: There was one occasion
that the executives from the label,
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from America, were coming over
and they flew over on Concorde.
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It was a big, big deal.
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And they all came down
in their limos,
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and they arrived here,
and the band had gone.
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Yeah, they went home.
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They'd flown in and they,
yeah, they went home.
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And they'd taken the tapes
as well, I think,
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so we couldn't play them anything.
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HE LAUGHS
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The first time we went over
there was when we went to fucking
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have a little snoop
on The Stone Roses, wasn't it? Yeah.
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You drove the combine harvester
over there...
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Yeah. ..in the middle of the night.
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Just, we were going,
"What the fuck are they up to?!"
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Cos they hadn't been doing anything
for years and we'd sort of...
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And I'm on about a proper combine
harvester. Proper big one.
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Ones that you've got to get ladders
up to and it's like miles...
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It's higher than that fucking roof.
Yeah.
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And he fucking starts it in one go
and off we fucking go.
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Irish blood. Crawling down the road
with the big fucking lights on.
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It looked like fucking...
It looked bonkers.
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War Of The Worlds.
And then we fucking...
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I think we drove it into the thing,
turned the lights off,
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and rolled over like something
out of the Professionals
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and fucking...
# Dum-di, dum-di, dum-dum... #
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Over the edge and then we fucking
pops up and we could hear some
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fucking bass line and drums going
on. And then we kind of heard...
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And then, I think we got caught
and they brought us in, didn't they?
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I don't think we brought
the combine harvester back.
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Yeah, we left it there.
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Very dangerous. Very dangerous,
yeah. I think we got fucking caught
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by someone and we went in,
didn't we? Yeah.
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Had a little chat with Ian Brown
and a few people
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and they were playing some songs
and stuff and we might have had
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a spliff and that and then I think
we fucking fucked off.
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And then, I think they did it
the next night.
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I think they come over...
Mani turned up on a tractor.
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On a tractor... Yeah. ..while
we were in bed, and, so they say,
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they robbed all of Guigsy's weed,
all our weed and that.
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We'd had one album,
everything was going well, I think.
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And I think the money might
have started...
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Maybe it might have started
trickling in. Maybe it wasn't.
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No, it was. Yeah, the money'd
started coming in.
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Sales had gone well.
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Definitely Maybe was up there,
wasn't it?
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Yeah, so it was the second album,
Morning Glory,
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and I think we were completely
still off our heads.
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Yeah, it felt mega.
It was like, you know...
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It was like, that's what you
sort of read about, you go, "Fucking
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"hell, this is what it's fucking
all about, this rock 'n' roll, man!"
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You know, you lived there
and you didn't leave the studio
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until you had your album finished.
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It's like the Big Brother house,
isn't it? But with tunes! Yeah.
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Our first album went to number one,
it was like, I guess,
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the height of the Manchester
kind of boom thing.
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Our manager at the time thought
it was a good idea to send us
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away to kind of write
and record an album
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and to spend six weeks in one space.
But, um, you know, it was...
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It was a great idea,
but it was also pretty nuts as well.
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No distractions. Well, apart
from going... Monmouth town centre.
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Which was rocking, you know, there
was two pubs there! Three, actually.
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Was there three? Yeah, yeah!
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We were in the middle of
the Welsh countryside,
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with just other people who were
kind of quite like-minded people.
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You could get up to
whatever you wanted.
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So, you did.
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Could have gone to all these
studios that had swimming pools
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and huge games rooms
and restaurants and stuff,
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but we'd rather just come
and play with the cows
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and stuff.
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For, you know, young people in their
mid twenties, it was ideal
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because we were just into getting
drunk
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and taking drugs and making music.
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There was no-one there telling you
what you couldn't do.
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As long as the work was getting
done, you know,
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the record company would come down
and check every now and again.
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And Columbia turned up from America
and the only person in the studio
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was me and I was lying down with
my head in the Leslie speaker,
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tripping on acid, kind of just going
round and round.
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I'd been there for hours.
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But, at the same time,
we were getting our dinners
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cooked for us, you know,
Mother's there in the kitchen...
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And the ladies who would come in
and clean up for us.
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We'd come in in the morning
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and all our drugs would be lined out
really neatly on the side for us.
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So it was perfect.
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Just perfect, yeah.
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The '90s was an amazing time.
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You know, we were booked nine
months in advance,
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both studios, back-to-back.
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We would have a session
leaving on a Monday morning
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and they'd be loading out
the one door
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and the next session would be
loading in the other door.
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And it was constant.
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But it was amazing time for
guitar-based bands in British music.
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You know, it absolutely was.
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Why men in guitar bands?
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I don't know. I don't really
know why that would be.
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I suppose, at the time...
I mean, obviously, there were
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big female singers and stuff,
weren't there?
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And there were big female rock
artists and stuff,
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but we tended to get the men,
that I can remem...
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That I can think of.
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Fucking...
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Fucking...!
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With Oasis, it was quick,
it was fast, cos, obviously,
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coming off the back of
The Stone Roses album
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that took 14 months,
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erm, and then other albums that
I'd done, they were fast.
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We was kind of working
on a song a day.
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Noel would get in and he'd put
a guide acoustic down, always.
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Whitey'd nail the drums and it'd be
like bass, in with the bass, Guigs,
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me, him with the guitar, he'd do his
overdubs, he'd come in and sing.
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It was really quick
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and I remember a really quick
session, song after song.
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That's cos there was like loads
of pubs in town that we heard
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that were good, you know what I
mean? It was like, get in there
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and fucking smash it out
and then fucking pub! Pub.
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For some...
We just loved being in the pub.
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What was Monmouth like?
Full of pubs!
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I'd do bits of engineering,
keep the tape machines running,
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set up all the microphones,
you know, record the band.
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Um, a lot of driving to the pub.
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All hours.
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You'd wait...
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Obviously, you'd wait until you
get your stuff done and that,
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but as soon as you get your stuff
done,
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if that was done at one in the
afternoon... Pub.
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..you'd be in the pub by
ten past one, you know what I mean?
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Did you ever work...?
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Carry on doing stuff when you got
back from the pub at night?
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You'd have a go. You'd have a go,
but it'd be fucking...
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You'd sound like The Pogues.
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Yeah, I mean, I would just go
to the pub till we came back
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and I would drive everyone back,
you know.
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Obviously,
somebody had to remain sober
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because we were on tape
back in them days.
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There was a little bit of debate
on who was going to sing Wonderwall.
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Noel was going to sing Wonderwall
and Liam was going to sing
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Wonderwall, then Noel said,
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"OK, I'll sing
Don't Look Back In Anger,"
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and then Liam was...
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Wanted to sing
Don't Look Back In Anger,
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so there was the debate on
who was going to sing what.
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Everyone wanted to make the songs
the best they could
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and Noel wanted to do it too
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and if that breeded a bit of fucking
competition,
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then so be it,
you know what I mean,
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I didn't want to go in there,
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be better than Bonehead,
or better than Guigs,
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I just wanted to go
and be better than me,
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you know what I mean? I wanted
to go and do my thing and...
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I just wanted...
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When I'd hear them
putting the songs on, I'd go,
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"Right, this fucking tune needs
a banging vocal,
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"so hopefully I can deliver it,"
you know what I mean?
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What did you think of Wonderwall
when you first...?
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I didn't like it at first. I thought
it was a bit funky and I thought...
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I thought it sounded like a reggae
song to me. Yeah.
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Proper sounded like a reggae song.
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Yeah. I thought, "What's going on?!"
It's weird.
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# Today is gonna be the day that
they're gonna throw it back to you
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# By now you should've somehow
realised what you gotta do
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# I don't believe that anybody
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# Feels the way I do,
about you now... #
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How long did it take you to record
the vocal for Wonderwall?
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Not long because the fucking party
was happy hour...
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Saturday night, wasn't it?
Two for one!
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Yeah, yeah, I think it was
like... Two for one.
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It was early doors, man!
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So I just whipped
that down in about 30 seconds, man.
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# I don't believe that anybody
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# Feels the way I do about you now
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# And all the roads
we have to walk are winding... #
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I remember doing Wonderwall,
had to set him up on the wall,
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outside the Coach House studio.
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So I've set the mics up up there
and he's doing...
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The guide guitars for Wonderwall
were done on top of the wall.
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So, I'd been into town... Oh, yeah.
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Probably had a couple of lagers,
but I bought a remote control car,
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right? Proper... You know,
big fat wheels on it.
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And I'm looking out the lounge
and I see Noel sat up on a wall
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with loads of microphones on him,
outside with an acoustic guitar.
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And I was like, "What the fuck?!
What's he doing?!"
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And he's trying to catch
the atmosphere, you know,
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the birds singing
and all that stuff.
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So I was like, "I'm getting him!"
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So I've got this car and I'm like,
"I'm not having this!" Fucking...
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So, I was like... Got it into first
gear, so this car's like, "Zim-zim!"
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I can see Noel's head like...
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In his headphones, "What the fuck's
that noise?!
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"Is that a bird?!" You know what
I mean! Fuck it, man! Yeah, yeah!
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# You're gonna be
the one that saves me... #
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We would definitely have a few
little nights
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where we were all very pleased
with our work
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and that and we'd go,
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"Shall we listen to it back five
million times and fucking..."
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Double loud. "..pat each other
on the back and that."
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We definitely did a lot of that.
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This one night, we were
sleeping in the front of the house,
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and they were working in
the Coach House studio
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and we'd gone to bed,
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normally, I suppose, I don't know,
11, 12 o'clock, something like that.
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And we couldn't get to sleep because
we could hear the music so loud.
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Kingsley kept saying, "I hope
the villagers can't hear it."
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We stuck it out to four o'clock
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and Kingsley said, "It's no good.
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"We're going to have to tell them
to stop it."
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So I came down the stairs,
came out through the back,
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and as I got to the studios,
the outside door was open
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and the inner door was wide open.
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I was standing there like this. And
I could see them going, "It's Ann!
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"It's Ann!" And of course, he
switched all the lights on then.
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"Oh, Ann, Ann, sorry...
Er, is there a problem?"
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"Well, yes, there is, actually."
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I said, "Kingsley and I haven't been
able to get to sleep
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01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,800
"because of the music."
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01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,400
And I said, "I don't know what the
villagers are like, but could I ask
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"you to close the outside doors,
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01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,480
"or at least both doors,
while you carry on?"
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01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,680
"Oh, right. OK.
Right, thanks, Ann. Thank you."
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01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,640
And they apologised to Ann
the next day.
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# Wake up, it's a beautiful morning
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01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:26,360
# Wake up, it's a beautiful morning
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01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,080
# Wake up, it's a
beautiful morning... #
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01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,880
Shall I turn this off...?
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01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,440
As soon as I started playing it,
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01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,360
as soon as I played those three
chords,
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I knew it was going to be
something different.
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01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,560
I really like minor chords.
273
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,280
I really like soul music
cos it's like uplifting
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01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:48,600
but sad at the same time.
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01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,080
I wanted to get a brass section in.
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01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,040
And I'd sent them a demo and a
couple of notes and they turned up.
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01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,440
I think it was Tom Jones's
brass section.
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01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,480
And it was so cheerful, what
they were playing, I was aghast.
279
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:19,360
"Can you not just...flatten
a few notes there?"
280
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,680
And they did and they still...
It's just too chirpy for me.
281
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,880
# Summer's gone, days spent... #
282
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,760
"Summer's gone, days spent
with the grass and the sun."
283
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,640
I was trying to get drug
references in!
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01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,960
But as soon as those first three
chords, we just went for it.
285
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,360
# Wake up, it's a beautiful morning
286
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,400
# The sun shining for your eyes... #
287
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,720
I think everybody were pinning
their hopes on that one track.
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01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:48,040
It just got played everywhere.
289
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,280
I mean, it still
gets played everywhere.
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01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,320
I don't know who plays it.
Someone's playing it all the time.
291
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,000
Rockfield now was rocketing,
and, in 1997,
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01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,440
out of the top ten albums,
Rockfield had seven in the top ten.
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01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:03,840
I can't remember who they were,
294
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,800
but we know that seven of the top
ten were done at Rockfield.
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01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:14,920
OK? We grew up in South Wales.
Rockfield, it's a legendary place.
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01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,000
It was the first ever
residential recording
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01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,120
studio in the world, apparently.
298
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,080
Kingsley says! Kingsley!
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01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:28,760
It was definitely James who drove us
there, to go there in '97.
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01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,240
And we came out with
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01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,200
If You Tolerate This.
We thought it was a B side.
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01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,360
We went to Rockfield
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01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,400
and the magic dust turned it into
our,
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01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:38,920
you know, biggest number one.
305
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,720
One, two, three, four, five...
It's only six chords in the song.
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01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,320
You know, it's a really simple song.
307
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,440
Um, and, like, you know, of course
you've got the, like, you know...
308
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:58,200
# The future teaches you to be alone
309
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,000
# The present to be afraid and cold
310
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:08,680
# So if I can shoot rabbits,
then I can shoot fascists... #
311
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:14,120
It was the last time we'd ever
really committed anything
312
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,000
just to tape without any...
313
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:18,600
The aid of Pro Tools or the digital
morass of stuff
314
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,640
that you have around, new tech,
to help make records now.
315
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,520
And it was quite effortless.
316
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,920
But that was the thing
about Rockfield.
317
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,000
If something was sounding good,
you just didn't mess with it.
318
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,640
# And if you tolerate this
319
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,640
# Then your children will be next
320
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,720
# And if you tolerate this
321
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,360
# Then your children will be next
322
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:52,240
# Will be next, will be next,
will be next... #
323
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:01,280
Rob Collins, keyboard player.
He didn't really speak very much,
324
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,240
but he really drove the band.
325
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:07,680
Turned up on a Monday and Rob
was playing that... This riff.
326
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:11,200
Turned up on Tuesday,
he was still playing this riff.
327
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,960
# Da, doodle-da, da, duh-duh... #
328
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,080
And by the end of the week,
he was still playing it and I said,
329
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:22,400
"You thought about putting any other
chords in there, Rob?"
330
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:23,920
Got to the following week
331
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,320
and a couple of chords to
throw in on your riff.
332
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,440
# One to another
333
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,800
# Sister and a brother
334
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,200
# And it's changing the way
that you feel
335
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,560
# Pleased to meet you
336
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,000
# Hope I never see you
337
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,840
# I'll be at ease watchin'
you sleep
338
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:48,840
# Watchin' you smile... #
339
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,360
The whole thing just kind of grew
and we just played around with
340
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,400
the sounds in the studio
and we did a load of overdubs.
341
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,560
# Love, I adore you
342
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,160
# Always lookin' for you... #
343
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,480
We just knew that we had this magic,
modern Northern Soul stomper.
344
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,760
You know, just very enthusiastic
time
345
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,240
and all of us sort of,
like, dancing on
346
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,080
the mixing desk
and, you know, crazy times.
347
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,760
We were all taking
a lot of drugs at the time. Er...
348
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:25,240
I can't speak on behalf of everybody
in the band, but I was.
349
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,600
Yeah.
350
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,720
Who were the most hedonistic
in the band?
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01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,680
Me and Rob.
352
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:33,680
Rob Collins,
353
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,040
our keyboard player.
354
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:38,240
We experimented with
different ways of...
355
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,240
Of getting deeper into our music.
356
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,880
That was the idea, anyway.
357
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,600
And experiment
with each other as well.
358
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,200
You know, as people.
We were like human experiments.
359
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,520
You know, Rob would go clubbing
quite a lot in Bristol and then come
360
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:02,760
back and, you know, early hours and
then sort of, like, do little bits.
361
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:07,560
We'd have a song
and we'd wake up the next day
362
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,480
and it had become like, you know,
an acid house track!
363
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,960
And then, we'd be like, "What the
fuck is this?!" You know, and...
364
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,720
And then,
bring it back to something else.
365
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:26,360
What had happened that night?
Just, like, ecstasy.
366
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:30,440
But then, that's pulling
and manipulating
367
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,760
and working things out
and stretching things,
368
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,120
which I think is an amazing thing,
so it was a struggle,
369
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:38,080
but I don't know,
it was pretty good.
370
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,560
Listening to Tellin' Stories now,
you know,
371
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,480
it's just the most vibrant-sounding
thing.
372
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,480
We did all of it in Rockfield,
that album.
373
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:48,680
Although, to be honest,
374
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,120
we would swap and sort of like go to
Monnow Valley
375
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,800
and then come back to Rockfield to
do vocals and things like that.
376
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,200
So, you know, Tellin' Stories was
the last one that we did there.
377
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,240
But you know, as you know,
it kind of all...
378
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,240
You know,
it kind of ended there as well.
379
01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:08,920
The first time was so easy,
it was really easy.
380
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,520
We were getting on really well.
381
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:17,440
Whereas the last album, Kingsize,
we weren't getting on very well.
382
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,600
It's weird because Rockfield
enhances your experience,
383
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,280
so if you're having a great time,
384
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,240
it's just the best place
in the world.
385
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,640
And if you're not, then you're just
getting on each other's nerves.
386
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:35,400
Because you are in that...
387
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,440
Pushed together in that place,
there's nowhere else to go, really.
388
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:41,760
The magic goes out of the walls.
389
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:51,840
Being in a residential
studio, it's 24/7.
390
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,240
At the end of the day, it's a very
intense relationship within
391
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,840
bands and you're talking with...
392
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,760
About creative people, aren't you?
393
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:04,920
You know, and with that creativity
comes high emotion, shall we say?
394
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,680
And it all gets magnified
in a place like this.
395
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,440
The trouble with being in
a residential studios
396
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,040
for a long period of time,
397
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,640
they start off all great friends,
398
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,840
and, eventually, it starts to
get a bit edgy.
399
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,440
Bands are either the type that
do this or they fall apart.
400
01:08:24,440 --> 01:08:25,960
A bit like families, isn't it?
401
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,160
Cos I don't play any instruments,
you know what I mean?
402
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,640
And a lot of the... All the rest of
the band play an instrument.
403
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,520
I sort of do my singing and
I'd be sort of bored,
404
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:38,680
do you know what I mean?
405
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,040
So then I'd be sort of just going
and twiddling my thumbs
406
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,240
and I'd think, "I'm fucking going to
the boozer,"
407
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,400
so I'd be in the pub
most of the time with whoever.
408
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,080
So then I'd bring a few people back
and I think that's when...
409
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,160
I think that's when it all went
a bit tits up with me and Noel
410
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:52,840
because I think...
411
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,200
I don't know where he'd gone,
somewhere, but like loads of
412
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,880
people come back and started looking
at his guitars and shit
413
01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:59,800
and you're not allowed to look at
his guitars.
414
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:00,840
And it all went a bit...
415
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:03,400
Yeah, had a little argument
and then that was it.
416
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,200
I think we had a little bit of a...
417
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,200
It was a proper fight. Proper brawl.
418
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,280
Yeah, cricket bats and air
rifles and... Dustbins.
419
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,720
Noel might have used the cricket bat
to hit me,
420
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,840
or just wave it at my head.
I don't remember much, but...
421
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,240
We had air rifles.
We locked them up. Yeah.
422
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,880
They got locked up cos they
might have got used.
423
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,400
There was just a lot of running
around and fucking throwing shit
424
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,560
at people and I just remember him
getting in the car and driving off
425
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,880
and I was stood there like a
fucking wild bastard, just going,
426
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,920
"Come on, you fucking shitbag!"
427
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,760
Didn't you throw a dustbin at the
car, or something? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
428
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:36,880
Yeah, I might have, yeah.
429
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,480
As it was flying up the drive, yeah.
Yeah, I should have... Yeah.
430
01:09:39,480 --> 01:09:42,000
Just little things, but them
little things are just little.
431
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,360
You know what I mean?
It's the craic, innit?
432
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,680
Was that one of the biggest fights
you ever had with Noel?
433
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,200
Probably, yeah. It was one of them.
But... It was a proper one.
434
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,320
As fights went, it was a good one.
435
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:52,680
It was carnage!
436
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,800
You know, some things got
broken, some...
437
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,480
I mean, here, I didn't really know
what to make of all that
438
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:02,640
cos it was the first time I'd kind
of seen something like that.
439
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:03,960
I wasn't used to it.
440
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:08,200
But everybody here seemed to take it
in their stride, you know.
441
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,560
I think they'd seen it all before,
so nothing was going to shock them.
442
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,600
So, yeah, they just cleaned it up
the next day
443
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,040
and it was like nothing had
happened.
444
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,000
Yeah, I think Noel went home.
445
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,120
He's always been a bit like that,
you know what I mean?
446
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,960
"What are you doing, bringing
people back when we're working?"
447
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,440
And I get it, you know what I mean?
448
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:28,920
But my argument would be,
"What you doing fucking taking 900
449
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,600
"takes to fucking do one guitar riff
450
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,800
"when you should be in the
fuckin pub with me?!"
451
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,360
Do you know what I mean?
Entertaining me!
452
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,440
Were you close at that stage? Yeah,
super close. We're all close. Yeah.
453
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:42,560
Not as... We weren't like
Bros or anything.
454
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,440
We weren't fucking like...
Like fucking Jedward, do you know
455
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:48,120
what I mean? Jedward! You know what
I mean? We weren't like...
456
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:50,240
We'd just go, "All right."
And he'd go, "All right,"
457
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,000
and then that would be it,
know what I mean?
458
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,640
That was the story of
the band's life really.
459
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,600
It'd sort of be good one minute and
then it'd be chaotic the next.
460
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,040
Until the poor lad had enough
one night in Paris.
461
01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:05,040
And then he took his bottle home.
462
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,880
And that was when you split?
That was when we split, yeah.
463
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,840
But is the same stuff that was
between you
464
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,880
that caused the arguments, the same
stuff that made it also good?
465
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,840
Yeah. We were bang into it 24/7.
466
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,280
We were also, which is our
downfall...
467
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,560
We were also into fucking
the other side of it as well.
468
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,480
The party side of it,
you know what I mean?
469
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:26,040
Like, all these bands that sit there
470
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,560
and go, "Yeah, we're fucking great."
Yeah, you're great.
471
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,920
You were shit at getting off your
box though, weren't you?
472
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,640
So, youse lot can go.
You know what I mean?
473
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,200
We were good at being in
the studio and we were also good at
474
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,880
being in the pub,
you know what I mean?
475
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,240
And I'm proud of that, as much
as I am of the great vocals
476
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,360
and the fucking takes in the studio,
you know what I mean?
477
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:45,880
We were fucking into
the whole thing, man.
478
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,600
# How many special people change?
479
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,800
# How many lives are living strange?
480
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:56,520
# Where were you
while we were getting high? #
481
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,760
We were walking and talking in
a certain manner and singing
482
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,320
and whatever and playing in a
certain manner
483
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,680
that it had to go off,
you know what I mean?
484
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:06,560
The music went with
what we were saying.
485
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,480
Had swagger, you know what I mean?
486
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:12,640
# Someday you will find me
487
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,080
# Caught beneath the landslide... #
488
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,400
I felt we enjoyed the life,
you know what I mean?
489
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,240
Can you hear that in the record,
do you think? I think so, yeah.
490
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:25,320
Definitely. There's a happy vibe
on that album, I think.
491
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,800
It's all... You know what? It's all
a bit of a blur, really. Um...
492
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,440
We'd been to one of the...
493
01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:45,360
One of the pubs in the town.
494
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,880
It was the furthest one
495
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,480
from Monnow Valley.
496
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,840
There'd been a bit of an argument
over, um, one of the guys who
497
01:12:55,840 --> 01:13:01,560
was doing some extra
mixing on the record.
498
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,240
We'd had a bit of a barney
with Rob about it.
499
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,600
I said, "Come on, let's go.
Let's get out of here.
500
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,200
"Let's go," and you know,
it was fine.
501
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:15,800
Rob had a half a lager and he was
playing the bandit all night,
502
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,960
which was what he liked to do.
503
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,840
So, me and Mark went back.
Rob was driving behind us.
504
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:28,120
From Monmouth town,
it's quite like windy roads.
505
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,920
Lots of hedges and lots of corners
and stuff like that, lots of fields.
506
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:36,960
And he was speeding up and he
was kind of, you know, being crazy,
507
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,720
like something in a film.
508
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,920
And then all of a sudden,
just disappeared.
509
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:47,520
We all thought that he'd taken
a detour
510
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,160
to go and get some supplies,
or something.
511
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,880
You know, and didn't really think
much about it at all.
512
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:59,520
Maybe about 45 minutes went by
and the police came round.
513
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:04,440
And said that you should get
yourself to Abergavenny Hospital.
514
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,480
And that's when I thought,
"Oh, what's he done?
515
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:12,480
"What's he done now?"
516
01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:15,520
And me and Mark went to
the hospital and...
517
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,520
..I heard it on the radio.
518
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,480
It was just going through my head,
the lyrics,
519
01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:23,800
every lyric that was in it,
it was just like, you know,
520
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,440
"One to another,
sister and a brother,
521
01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:26,800
"changing the way that you..."
522
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,800
You know, it just kind of felt like
it was... I just knew that...
523
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:34,040
I knew what I was going to face
when we got there.
524
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,520
We knew The Charlatans.
We knew them pretty well.
525
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,640
And I do remember just one night
and I was here, happened to be
526
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,640
staying here, and you can hear
the main road and I just heard
527
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,800
this car driving incredibly fast
528
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:52,120
down the road, and then you heard
sort of the du-du-du-duh of
529
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:53,680
them going over cat's eyes.
530
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:56,560
And you thought, "God! He is going
at some pace," you know.
531
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:57,840
"He's driving fast."
532
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:01,800
And there's a really nasty deceptive
bend at the end of our meadow.
533
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,760
And then you heard the crash.
534
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,600
What happened?
And he'd... He'd just...
535
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,120
The car, I guess, had gone too fast
round the corner
536
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,360
and had gone out of control,
turned the car over.
537
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,480
You know, and when we found
out that it was Rob...
538
01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:17,440
You know, it was just awful.
539
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,040
You know, Rob... Rob was...
540
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,360
He was the first person
who ever put me up, you know.
541
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,120
When I went to see The Charlatans,
542
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,480
he was the first person
who put me up
543
01:15:38,480 --> 01:15:39,520
and I stayed at his house
544
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,600
and we'd listen to people's
records
545
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,720
and talked about how we were
going to change the world.
546
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,400
We talked about all that
all the way through,
547
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,320
you know, the times of
making records.
548
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:55,080
And with Tellin' Stories, he's on
it, a lot of the recordings,
549
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:59,840
we tried to keep as much of his
stuff intact as we could.
550
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,760
And, yeah, he's always going to be
a part of that record,
551
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,960
he's always going to be a part
of Rockfield.
552
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:06,240
He died there, you know.
553
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,840
And, um, he's always going to be
part of the Rockfield story.
554
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,560
And I think some of his ashes
are scattered there as well.
555
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:15,240
But, um, you know, he's not gone,
556
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,440
he's just in a different
dimension, yeah.
557
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,120
One, two. One, two.
558
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:25,960
It's good for me.
559
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,200
He's playing tonight.
560
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,360
It's... We...
561
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:40,000
From those times, you know, we run
like little samples and loops
562
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,000
and Rob's been on tour
with us since...
563
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,440
Since he died.
564
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:58,960
Feels quite comforting, you know,
when you're playing and...
565
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,200
And, you know, every night
that we play,
566
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,400
you know, that they're still
playing.
567
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:05,520
# Pleased to meet you... #
568
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,800
The isolation and the place allowed
us to create our own world
569
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,640
and we captured... We captured...
570
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,840
You know, the rooms allowed us to
capture that
571
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,920
and I'm forever grateful about that.
572
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:21,920
I love it. So many amazing memories
there, such a positive place.
573
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:27,520
MUSIC: CORO A BOCCA CHIUSA
FROM MADAME BUTTERFLY BY PUCCINI
574
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:53,360
As I remember, it was 1999.
575
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,800
We had just been students and then
after that, we were cleaners a bit.
576
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,960
We had never recorded out
of London before.
577
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,280
We'd never really recorded
before, to be honest.
578
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:09,160
We'd done one session a few months
before in London,
579
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,120
which hadn't gone so well.
580
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,160
So we were going there, it was kind
of a make-or-break session.
581
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:21,080
I think we knew absolutely nothing
about Rockfield
582
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,720
before we went there and, I mean,
583
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,080
I remember sort of vividly
when we turned up
584
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,320
when we drove down,
it was like a little unmade road
585
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:28,480
and there was cows.
586
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,080
And I sort of wondered what on earth
we were doing there.
587
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,920
So it was our first real dip into
a proper recording studio
588
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,640
and we'd heard that The Stone Roses
had spent
589
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,320
about two and a half years there
590
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,400
or something like that,
or maybe more.
591
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:52,560
By the time we got to Rockfield,
it was like, this is your...
592
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:56,080
You know, we'd been given kind
of six months to get used to
593
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,000
being signed and stuff
and then our label were like,
594
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,240
"You've got to kind of make it
happen now."
595
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,680
So it was very much like some sort
of musical Hogwarts, you know.
596
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,600
We were sent away to figure it out.
597
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,200
We were recording a song
called Shiver.
598
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,320
And we went outside to have, like,
a breather
599
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,560
and it was just
so beautiful outside.
600
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:26,880
All four of us were outside
601
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:31,520
and Ken and he was like,
"Look up there, lads!
602
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,160
"Look at the stars."
603
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,880
He literally said,
"Look at the stars,"
604
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,520
which is the first line
of that song
605
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,000
and it was really mindblowing.
606
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,560
We'd been in London for, like, five
years,
607
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,120
so we hadn't really seen
anything
608
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:44,960
beyond smog for a while.
609
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:48,040
So that line was in my head
610
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,000
and then, I was thinking about
611
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,880
how Neil Young sings the word
"stars" like,
612
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:54,600
"Starrs... Starrrs..."
613
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,720
Like he does a sort of bend in it.
614
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,480
So then I went back in to try
and do this acoustic.
615
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:03,560
So...
616
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:05,640
So a normal tuning...
617
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,040
That isn't it.
618
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:11,120
Right?
619
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,400
So we had this song called Shiver,
which is like this.
620
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,680
Which was like our attempt
at a Jeff Buckley song.
621
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:26,040
And we were recording that.
622
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,920
Anyway, I went back in
to sit behind the control desk,
623
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,640
mixing desk, waiting,
624
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:35,040
and something was wrong with,
uh, the machine,
625
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,160
so I was waiting, and I saw...
626
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,880
Then I... Then that chord,
I started doing that.
627
01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:45,760
And I started thinking about
Neil Young and I was like...
628
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,280
# Stars... #
629
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,600
I was just messing around!
630
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,800
This is really
the very humble beginnings.
631
01:20:53,160 --> 01:20:54,640
# For you... #
632
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,640
Then I tried like a...
That's a normal chord shape.
633
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,520
But it sounds different
in this tuning.
634
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,520
I don't even know
what that chord is.
635
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,120
I was just doing that.
636
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,320
Then I got the title
from the Yellow Pages,
637
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,840
which was about a 45 degree angle
over there.
638
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:18,880
# They were all... #
639
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,920
I was looking for a word
which was like uhhh, ehhh...
640
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,480
Yellow...
641
01:21:23,480 --> 01:21:25,560
So then I thought, "I like this."
642
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,520
So then I went through.
643
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,800
Everyone else was watching football,
I think.
644
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,320
And I said,
"Guys, what you think about this?"
645
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,120
And they were like,
"Yeah, that's OK."
646
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,000
They weren't
particularly interested.
647
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,000
And then I went into the bathroom
in the living-room area.
648
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,600
And then the chorus came out, uh...
649
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,640
# Your skin
650
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:48,840
# Oh, yeah, your skin and bones... #
651
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,400
Then I showed them that and they
were like, "Yeah, we like that."
652
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,800
And that gave us our lives for...
653
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,600
..for the last 16 years.
654
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,600
CROWD NOISE BUILDS
655
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,760
One, two, three, four.
656
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:26,040
# Look at the stars
657
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,200
# Look how they shine for you
658
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,840
# Everything you do
659
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,760
# Yeah, they were all yellow... #
660
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:39,920
What was it about?
661
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,560
What's it about? I don't know.
662
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,520
Just someone awesome.
663
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,280
Was it about someone specific? No.
664
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:50,040
Most of our songs are about someone
or something awesome.
665
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:54,280
Whether that's a person or a girl
or a child or a...
666
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:59,320
..entity or...a figurative way
of speaking about the Earth.
667
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,000
We're always banging on
about love and amazingness.
668
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,040
And I think we always will.
669
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:07,000
# Oh, what a thing to have done
670
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,320
# And it was all yellow... #
671
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,960
I think that session at Rockfield
helped us,
672
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:21,480
uh...kind of solidify who we were
673
01:23:21,480 --> 01:23:23,280
and what we were trying to do
as a band.
674
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,760
The sound of our first album
really came from Rockfield Studios
675
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,960
and that sort of
back-to-basics mentality
676
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,760
that was imposed upon us there.
677
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:39,120
Well, good songs will always be
written all over the place,
678
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:41,480
but I think what is changing
679
01:23:41,480 --> 01:23:45,400
is that studios are going
out of business all over the world,
680
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,880
because of the ease of which you can
now record on computers and whatnot,
681
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,720
and also there's not
that many people willing
682
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:57,400
to put a band of four
kind of just post-teenagers,
683
01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,320
you know, in an expensive
studio situation
684
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,320
and let them stay there for a month
and see what happens, you know,
685
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,120
not that many record companies
are taking risks like that.
686
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,440
Rockfield will always
be a part of me,
687
01:24:12,440 --> 01:24:14,440
because we started
Black Sabbath there,
688
01:24:14,440 --> 01:24:16,400
I started my solo career there.
689
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,480
I can go and live in Beverly Hills,
690
01:24:19,480 --> 01:24:22,800
but for some reason,
I end up back in Rockfield.
691
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,200
It all helped to create what we did.
692
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,800
It's... It's just magic.
693
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:36,120
I loved...
694
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,680
I loved being in residential
studios,
695
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:40,000
I fucking loved it.
696
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,920
You're a proper band, aren't you,
when you're in there?
697
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,360
Who knows, man? I mean,
music's done differently now.
698
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:51,440
I do a lot of my stuff
fucking through e-mails, man.
699
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:54,080
You know, they fucking e-mail you
the drums and that these days
700
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,520
and go, "I'll e-mail you
the fucking high hat."
701
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,440
In ten years' time,
you've got half a tune done.
702
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:01,040
It's more of an old school vibe.
703
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:02,920
Where's the vibe of that,
you know what I mean?
704
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,160
Well, I'm still struggling on,
705
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:11,080
trying to make records
and write songs.
706
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:12,880
Where do you do it now?
707
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,600
Up in my loft, yeah.
708
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,880
Well, I can do anything up there
that we did in...in Rockfield.
709
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,960
Nowadays, with equipment, you know,
for recording,
710
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:25,320
all you need is a laptop, really.
711
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,760
When you're recording on a computer,
you know,
712
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,960
your song can be performed
perfectly.
713
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:31,840
It might take you a good few weeks
714
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,440
tweaking it
and fiddling around and stuff,
715
01:25:34,440 --> 01:25:37,840
but it does have the potential
for perfection.
716
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,360
But perfection is not always
what you want.
717
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,200
You want something
that has emotion and feeling.
718
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,280
You have to capture some magic.
719
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:50,440
And some mystery, you know -
magic is mystery as well, you know?
720
01:25:50,440 --> 01:25:52,760
There's often, you know,
something...
721
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,520
Maybe The Stone Roses record,
there's a lot of mystery about it,
722
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,680
which is why
people still listen to it.
723
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:04,640
Since our times at Rockfield,
we've built our own place
724
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:08,000
kind of to try and give ourselves
725
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:09,840
that same sort of freedom.
726
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:11,760
It's not as good as Rockfield,
no way,
727
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,880
but I like to make records,
728
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,120
and I'm really passionate
about making records.
729
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,240
Charles and Kingsley were passionate
about making recording studios,
730
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,240
and making them the best studios
in the world.
731
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,960
And they have achieved that.
732
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,880
We were very, very lucky.
733
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,040
But we...
734
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:36,080
..we turned the recording world
upside down.
735
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:47,680
BASS GUITAR RIFF
736
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:51,680
PERCUSSION STARTS AND STOPS
737
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:55,840
# Charming little woman, oh
738
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,800
# Who can set a man to rights?
739
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,960
# Charming little woman, oh
740
01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:02,040
# Who can hoax and coax you too?
741
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:04,040
# Who can beat you black and blue?
742
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,080
# Who can love you better too?
743
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,040
# Charming little woman, oh. #
744
01:27:09,480 --> 01:27:11,640
I was so excited about being here,
745
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,240
because of mainly Queen,
to be honest.
746
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,960
Have you encountered Kingsley
and Ann yet?
747
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,440
I have, I've met them.
748
01:27:18,440 --> 01:27:21,960
We met Kingsley yesterday morning,
749
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:25,440
and he was out riding around
on his tractor,
750
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:28,760
and he was very sort of grumpy
751
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,080
about people coming to sit
on the Wonderwall,
752
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:32,640
and then he rode past in his tractor
753
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,120
and got a massive puncture,
pfft, like that!
754
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,840
And, yeah,
he's been fabulously grumpy
755
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,600
the whole time we've been here,
actually.
756
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,000
Grumpy and also welcoming
and full of stories.
757
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,760
We work seven days a week,
as we always have done.
758
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,000
We're a leisure-based company today.
We do a lot of holiday lets.
759
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:06,040
We do a lot of masterclasses,
our recording.
760
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,800
We're the milking stool.
761
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,000
With a milking stool,
it's always on three legs.
762
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:15,320
If you start on one leg,
you fall over.
763
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,080
Two legs, no good.
Four legs, you will rock.
764
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,120
But three legs, you're steady,
cos you can't rock.
765
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,880
The holiday lets cannot believe
their good luck when they come,
766
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,600
because I give them a tour.
767
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:30,000
There's so amazed at where they are
that they can't believe it.
768
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,240
No fighting!
769
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,320
No fighting. Don't have a go at me.
770
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:54,080
My mum always says the animals
are her sanity, you know,
771
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:55,680
because there is
something wonderful
772
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,200
about beginning and ending your day
with animals.
773
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:02,720
Whether that be, you know, feeding
the cows first thing in the morning,
774
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,160
letting the chickens out
first thing in the morning,
775
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,440
walking the dogs,
mucking out the stables.
776
01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:09,160
And then, at the end of the day,
777
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,480
get the horses settled for the night
in the stables.
778
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:17,040
Beginning and ending a day
with animals, for me, anyway,
779
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,600
and I think it's the same
780
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,920
for my parents, definitely,
and my sister...
781
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,880
I just think that, you know,
nature is a leveller,
782
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,400
it's grounding, it centres you.
783
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,440
And I think that's really important
somewhere here.
784
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:39,480
It's about being a part of something
way bigger than you.
785
01:29:39,480 --> 01:29:42,280
You're a part of something else,
rather than just it.
786
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,480
Very important for rock stars!
787
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,800
Well, you've got to
do something with your life.
788
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,960
Never give in, keep going.
789
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,600
The best is yet to come.
790
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:29,240
# How long has this been going on?
791
01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:36,960
# How long has this been going on?
792
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,480
# Well, if friends
with their fancy persuasion
793
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:46,560
# Don't admit that
it's part of a scheme
794
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,120
# But I can't help
but have my suspicion
795
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:54,160
# Cos I ain't quite as dumb
as I seem
796
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:58,520
# And you said
you was never intending
797
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:02,080
# To break up our scene in this way
798
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:05,920
# But there ain't any use
in pretending
799
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:09,320
# It could happen to us any day
800
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:16,000
# How long has this been going on? #
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