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In the criminal justice system,
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sexually-based offenses
are considered especially heinous.
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In New York City,
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the dedicated detectives who investigate
these vicious felonies are members
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of an elite squad known
as The Special Victims Unit.
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These are their stories.
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- Don't be crazy.
- Oh, you make me crazy.
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Oh, no. We had a good time.
Let's just leave it at that. / I can't.
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Oh, you know, you need to
get dressed now and go.
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- Let's talk about it in bed.
- Come on, I mean it.
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I told you this was
going to be the last time.
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- Enough! It's over!
- Let's go to bed!
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- Let go of me!
- Come on!
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You're hurting me!
Get off right now!
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- I'm done with this!
- It's not up to you!
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- Yeah, then I'm calling the cops!
- Who the hell do you think you are, bitch?
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I'm the bitch who's gonna
tell everyone what you did.
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- How do you like that?
- You think you can threaten me?
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Oh, my god, don't, please.
Come on, don't do this.
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This isn't right.
Come on, please.
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You're nothing without me, you whore!
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Please, don't.
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Downstairs neighbor heard a knockdown,
drag-out last night.
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Came up this morning to complain,
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door was unlocked.
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This is what he found.
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Victim's name is Monica Phelps.
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Looks like she's been raped and shot.
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ME's in route.
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Go ahead.
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Just say hello.
Let them do the talking.
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Hello.
Hi.
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Hold on.
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Washington middle school
says Nathan Phelps is absent,
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and do we know he's not in school?
You think he's been kidnapped?
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- Did you search the apartment?
- First thing.
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How about the closet?
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No, didn't wanna move the body.
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Bullet went all the way through.
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Nathan, are you in there?
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1, 2, 3...
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Nathan!
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- Hey, Nathan, are you hurt?
- No.
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I'm Olivia. This is Elliot.
We're police officers.
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My mom...
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she's dead, isn't she?
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Yes, Nathan. I'm sorry.
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Come on.
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Come on.
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Don't look. Don't look. Don't look.
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I don't leave her yet.
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I don't leave her by herself.
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Okay, we'll wait for them
to bring her down.
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And I'm not staying
in some foster care.
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I'm staying here.
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Nathan, let's talk about that later.
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Right now, the doctor's
gonna check you out
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and make sure that you're okay.
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I couldn't see the guy.
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I couldn't see what
he really looked like.
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Nathan, you can't
worry about that now.
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They were yelling, and my mom said
she was gonna call the cops.
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What were they fighting about?
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She was trying to make him leave.
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He started hitting her.
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Did your mom know that you were
hiding in the closet?
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I go there when she's got company.
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- Did she have company a lot?
- Yeah.
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Where's your dad?
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Dead.
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He...
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stabbed when I was six.
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Nathan...
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do you have any family
that we can contact?
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If they're close by, we could
arrange for you to stay with them.
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Can you find aunt Gina?
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Is that your mom's sister?
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No, I call her aunt Gina
because she was my mom's best friend.
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She lived with us,
but then she left.
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So what's Gina's last name?
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Arroyo.
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When did she leave?
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Three months ago, maybe.
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But we thought she got locked up.
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Do you know what for?
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Crystal meth.
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That stuff is so bad.
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Makes people crazy.
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Was your mom using it too?
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She kicked it before,
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and promised she was
gonna stop for good.
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Nathan...
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there was nothing you could do.
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I used to get it for her
when she was too sick to get it herself.
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So you know where
your mom's dealer lives?
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Yeah. DJ.
I hate that guy!
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We need to talk to you, DJ!
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Look, man, I ain't
carrying, all right!
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And you can search me.
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Look what I found.
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That's worth a few grand.
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You can't pin that on me.
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Yeah, but I might be able
to pin a murder on you, DJ. / A what?
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The rape and murder of Monica Phelps.
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No, no, no, no.
I did not murder her!
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So what should I use, lemony goodness
or mountain stream?
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Tell us where Gina Arroyo is.
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Look, man, I don't know any Gina!
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And I'd be an idiot to kill Monica.
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My best customer.
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So what's a hooker doing with enough ice
to open up her own dealership?
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Guess she had a heavy habit.
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Or maybe she was trying
to get in on your game.
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That chick was working
at a hot dog stand.
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She wouldn't be frying franks
if she was dealing.
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- Now, wasn't I helpful?
- Very.
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WEST'S PAPAYA
564 WEST 54TH STREET
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 15
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I'm sorry Monica's dead,
but I gotta tell you,
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- I was gonna fire her anyway.
- Why?
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She started missing shifts,
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or she'd come in so hopped up
that I had to send her home. Thanks.
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This is a very demanding job.
You gotta be sharp.
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Well, has Monica had
any trouble lately?
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Maybe with a boyfriend?
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Doubt it. All she cared about
was her next fix.
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- Uh, did she have a locker?
- Yeah.
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Hey. Could you take her stuff?
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We need the space.
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Sweater, gum, lip gloss.
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Not taking up that much space.
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Something down there.
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We gotta get in the
hot dog business.
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- How much?
- 15 grand.
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- Stolen?
- Not from work.
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Boss says he'd know if his
register was short 15 cents.
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Well, why work at that hot dog joint
if she had access to all that cash?
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That wasn't living money.
That was partying money.
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And a hell of a lot of tricks to turn
while Nathan hid in the closet.
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Well, it had to come
from somewhere else then.
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- Where's the son?
- He's in the crib.
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He wants to stay here tonight.
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I don't think spending one night here
could do any damage.
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If he feels safe,
then it might even help.
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Hey, there.
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Sorry about the PJs.
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We'll go pick up your stuff
at the apartment tomorrow, okay?
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There's nothing there I want.
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You're gonna send me
to a home tomorrow, aren't you?
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I know it.
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Nathan, I won't send you anywhere
until you're ready to go.
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Did you find aunt Gina?
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We're still looking. But...
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I couldn't find any records
about her being arrested.
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But we did find a lot of cash
in your mom's locker at work.
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You have any idea how it got there?
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From the good people.
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They give you money if you're poor.
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- Is that a church?
- No, they just help you.
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They gave my mom money
to go to school.
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She never went.
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Do you know where we could find them?
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They have a office somewhere.
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I just can't remember.
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It's okay, Nathan.
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It's okay. You know what?
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It's late.
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Think you could sleep?
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Sure.
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You know, I could stay
if you want to.
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I know sometimes it's hard
to sleep in a strange place.
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No, you can go.
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Okay.
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Good night.
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Detective Benson...
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Yeah?
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One time, the good people gave
my mom money to get out of jail.
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I didn't wanna tell you because...
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I just didn't.
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That's gonna be very helpful, Nathan.
Thank you.
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Good night.
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Detective Benson...
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Yes, David?
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You can stay if you want.
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I mean, for a little while.
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How about if I just stay
till you fall asleep?
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Yeah, that's good.
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Okay.
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MY SALVATION CHARITIES
363 WEST 20TH STREET
WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 16
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The court record says
you bailed out Monica Phelps.
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Yes, I did bail Monica out.
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She'd been doing so well,
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but methamphetamine's
a tough habit to kick.
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What exactly is
your relationship to her?
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She was a client.
And I considered her a friend.
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- A client of what?
- My salvation charities.
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We assist women in need.
Single moms, recent parolees.
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Women simply down on their luck.
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Dolores Anderson and my husband
Ted Carthage, who runs the foundation.
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These are police.
Monica Phelps has been killed.
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- Oh, no.
- Oh, my god.
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- What about her son?
- He's safe.
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But he said that you
gave his mother money.
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I believe we paid for her drug rehab
and got her an education grant.
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Well, she had $15,000 in a brown
paper bag when she died.
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Did you give her cash?
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Well, that wasn't from us.
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We'll occasionally provide
start-up funds, but, uh,
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we've never given
that much to one person.
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Well, we're looking for associates
that may have known about the money.
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Do you know Gina Arroyo?
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I don't recognize the name.
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Are any of your clients
friends with Monica?
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Candace Tanner may be able to help.
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She and Monica were in rehab together.
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Yeah. I can't remember when
I saw Monica last. Sorry.
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- Can you guess?
- Uh, not really.
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Well, Ted Carthage from
my salvation said you...
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said you could
help us out there, Candace.
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- Oh, did he?
- Yeah.
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Uh, okay, so...
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so maybe a month ago?
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Monica have any boyfriends?
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Hey, why are you in
such a hurry there, huh?
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You got somewhere to go,
like to your drug dealer?
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- Get off of me.
- Your friend was murdered.
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You gonna do something about it,
or let the same thing happen to you?
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I don't know, okay? God!
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She wasn't even my friend!
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- Lying.
- Question is, for who?
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Benson.
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Finally some good news.
Great, we'll be there.
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Ballistics matched the slugs
from Monica
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00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:31,114
to one of the Jane Doe's
in the morgue.
250
00:12:38,236 --> 00:12:42,043
Aunt Gina. / Body was found three months ago
dumped in Riverside park.
251
00:12:42,043 --> 00:12:43,934
Two shots, point blank,
to the chest.
252
00:12:43,934 --> 00:12:46,753
Never found an ID,
no missing persons report.
253
00:12:46,753 --> 00:12:50,191
And now Nathan has
someone else to mourn.
254
00:12:58,558 --> 00:13:01,892
Yeah, that's aunt gina.
255
00:13:01,892 --> 00:13:05,231
I'm very sorry, Nathan.
256
00:13:05,231 --> 00:13:10,197
Nathan, we think the same man
who killed your mom killed Gina too.
257
00:13:10,197 --> 00:13:16,821
Can you think of anybody that both Gina
and your mom would have known? / No.
258
00:13:17,402 --> 00:13:21,822
Where am I gonna go now?
259
00:13:22,470 --> 00:13:28,492
Well, uh, do you wanna
go back to the station?
260
00:13:28,492 --> 00:13:32,787
Well, then, that's
where we're gonna go.
261
00:13:34,707 --> 00:13:38,393
Her personal effects.
Clothing, jewelry, plastic bag.
262
00:13:38,393 --> 00:13:40,344
And a voucher for what was
in the plastic bag.
263
00:13:40,344 --> 00:13:45,714
- And what's that?
- $7,000 cash.
264
00:13:45,714 --> 00:13:48,231
Where the hell's
all this money coming from?
265
00:13:48,231 --> 00:13:51,935
Check out the rubber bracelet.
266
00:13:53,432 --> 00:13:56,341
Psalm 38:22. Beats me.
267
00:13:56,341 --> 00:14:00,379
"Make haste to help me,
O lord, my salvation."
268
00:14:00,379 --> 00:14:03,622
"My salvation"?
269
00:14:03,622 --> 00:14:05,968
Thought they didn't know Gina.
270
00:14:05,968 --> 00:14:07,659
Look how many people we serve.
271
00:14:07,659 --> 00:14:09,368
It's impossible to
keep track of everyone.
272
00:14:09,368 --> 00:14:10,824
- You don't keep records?
- We do.
273
00:14:10,824 --> 00:14:12,391
- Break them out.
- Why?
274
00:14:12,391 --> 00:14:14,262
Because two people
you helped are dead.
275
00:14:14,262 --> 00:14:16,271
And they both had
a lot of cash on them.
276
00:14:16,271 --> 00:14:18,250
Money train starts here.
277
00:14:18,250 --> 00:14:20,792
I told you, we don't
give out large sums.
278
00:14:20,792 --> 00:14:22,683
So maybe they stole them.
279
00:14:22,683 --> 00:14:24,592
Show us your financial records.
280
00:14:24,592 --> 00:14:27,132
So that's what this is about.
281
00:14:27,132 --> 00:14:30,620
What? / Our records are private.
You have no legal right to them.
282
00:14:30,620 --> 00:14:32,721
And I am disgusted
by this witch hunt.
283
00:14:32,721 --> 00:14:33,857
What are you talking about?
284
00:14:33,857 --> 00:14:38,166
Ted has dedicated his life to helping
people others would consider trash.
285
00:14:38,166 --> 00:14:40,278
Addicts, whores, and degenerates.
286
00:14:40,278 --> 00:14:42,797
And he gets nothing in return!
287
00:14:42,797 --> 00:14:46,120
Tell that to whomever sent you.
288
00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:47,364
So she's got nothing to hide.
289
00:14:47,364 --> 00:14:49,922
No, not at all.
290
00:14:49,922 --> 00:14:52,129
Let's subpoena her anyway.
291
00:14:52,129 --> 00:14:53,834
Don't need to.
I checked the dockets.
292
00:14:53,834 --> 00:14:56,767
Ted Carthage is being investigated
by the state attorney general.
293
00:14:56,767 --> 00:14:58,917
I subpoenaed his office
for the records instead.
294
00:14:58,917 --> 00:15:00,978
- It's a lot less trouble.
- Investigated for what?
295
00:15:00,978 --> 00:15:03,058
- Embezzlement and fraud.
- From the charity?
296
00:15:03,058 --> 00:15:05,173
No, Carthage funds every dollar
of the charity himself.
297
00:15:05,173 --> 00:15:07,266
His business interests
are being investigated.
298
00:15:07,266 --> 00:15:10,345
Real estate investments, construction
companies, finance firms.
299
00:15:10,345 --> 00:15:11,749
Must be worth millions.
300
00:15:11,749 --> 00:15:14,013
Actually, it may be worth nothing.
301
00:15:14,013 --> 00:15:17,166
His partners believe he's been shifting money
between the charity and the businesses.
302
00:15:17,166 --> 00:15:19,016
Trying to hide the fact
the money's going out.
303
00:15:19,016 --> 00:15:20,268
But nothing's coming in.
304
00:15:20,268 --> 00:15:22,569
Well, we got a couple of dead women
who came into a lot of money.
305
00:15:22,569 --> 00:15:25,845
He wrote checks to
a lot of live ones too.
306
00:15:26,177 --> 00:15:28,654
MARLA'S BEAUTY SALON
169 WEST 129TH STREET
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 17
307
00:15:28,654 --> 00:15:30,073
I don't get it, Vivien.
308
00:15:30,073 --> 00:15:33,241
Why Ted Carthage give you
$14,000 in 11 months?
309
00:15:33,241 --> 00:15:36,036
- It was a loan.
- He wrote you eight checks.
310
00:15:36,036 --> 00:15:38,171
- They were all loans.
- For what?
311
00:15:38,171 --> 00:15:41,099
- Personal expenses.
- Yeah, I can see that.
312
00:15:41,099 --> 00:15:43,984
- Nice crank bugs on your face.
- You're a pig.
313
00:15:43,984 --> 00:15:45,400
You ever pay those loans back?
314
00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,086
Don't forget, we can check
your financial records.
315
00:15:48,086 --> 00:15:52,925
I mean it was a present.
Excuse me.
316
00:15:52,925 --> 00:15:55,308
Katie, we know you cashed
a check for $2,000.
317
00:15:55,308 --> 00:15:56,981
- We have your signature.
- No, I didn't.
318
00:15:56,981 --> 00:16:02,340
Look, you're not in trouble.
We're investigating Ted Carthage.
319
00:16:02,340 --> 00:16:03,908
It's really gross.
320
00:16:03,908 --> 00:16:07,470
Does it have to do with drugs?
321
00:16:08,074 --> 00:16:11,330
Katie...
322
00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:16,534
are you using crystal meth?
323
00:16:16,534 --> 00:16:18,172
It's, it's not like I'm shooting it.
324
00:16:18,172 --> 00:16:20,891
You're gonna kill yourself.
325
00:16:20,891 --> 00:16:24,069
I know.
I know. I'll stop, okay?
326
00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:28,151
Did Carthage give you
the money to buy the drugs?
327
00:16:28,151 --> 00:16:31,720
He gave it to me because...
328
00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,007
I did him.
329
00:16:34,007 --> 00:16:36,615
- Had sex with him?
- It was...
330
00:16:36,615 --> 00:16:41,562
only supposed to be oral.
331
00:16:41,562 --> 00:16:44,457
But he got all pushy.
332
00:16:44,457 --> 00:16:47,989
I just looked away and pretended
I was somewhere else.
333
00:16:47,989 --> 00:16:49,771
Katie...
334
00:16:49,771 --> 00:16:51,860
what you're describing is rape.
335
00:16:51,860 --> 00:16:54,216
No, he paid me.
336
00:16:54,216 --> 00:16:56,000
The law says that doesn't matter.
337
00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,449
You're under the age of consent.
338
00:16:59,449 --> 00:17:01,848
Candace said he wouldn't
want to go all the way.
339
00:17:01,848 --> 00:17:05,165
- Liar.
- Candace Tanner?
340
00:17:05,165 --> 00:17:06,547
What does she have to do with this?
341
00:17:06,547 --> 00:17:09,353
She hooks us up,
gets the motel rooms and stuff.
342
00:17:09,353 --> 00:17:11,848
Ted pays, like, thousands of dollars.
343
00:17:11,848 --> 00:17:13,741
But the bitch took most of mine.
344
00:17:13,741 --> 00:17:16,451
I only made 500 bucks.
345
00:17:16,451 --> 00:17:19,541
Oh, Candy, you messed up, real bad.
346
00:17:19,541 --> 00:17:21,963
Promoting prostitution's
already hitting the big time.
347
00:17:21,963 --> 00:17:23,682
But promoting sex with a minor?
348
00:17:23,682 --> 00:17:27,362
All you can prove is Ted Carthage
paid girls to have sex with him.
349
00:17:27,362 --> 00:17:30,508
You have nothing on my client
other than the words of junkies.
350
00:17:30,508 --> 00:17:32,155
You're pretty smart.
351
00:17:32,155 --> 00:17:34,540
Taking a cut from
every girl's payday in cash,
352
00:17:34,540 --> 00:17:36,406
so there's no money trail
from Carthage to you.
353
00:17:36,406 --> 00:17:38,213
See, we have a witness
354
00:17:38,213 --> 00:17:40,286
who'd like nothing better
than to screw you
355
00:17:40,286 --> 00:17:41,908
for the 1,500 bucks you owe her.
356
00:17:41,908 --> 00:17:44,769
Witness? Or willing participant?
357
00:17:44,769 --> 00:17:47,288
How much money did you make
selling those other girls?
358
00:17:47,288 --> 00:17:49,731
- You get sick of selling yourself, Candy?
- Shut up.
359
00:17:49,731 --> 00:17:52,895
And how do you think Ted Carthage
is gonna react when we arrest him?
360
00:17:52,895 --> 00:17:54,896
You think he's gonna
go down without a fight?
361
00:17:54,896 --> 00:17:57,343
Or you think he's gonna
shove all the blame on you?
362
00:17:57,343 --> 00:17:59,179
So you got all this evidence.
What do you need me for?
363
00:17:59,179 --> 00:18:01,511
Well, your attorney's
not altogether wrong.
364
00:18:01,511 --> 00:18:04,890
The testimony of crank addicts
against the word of Mr. Philanthropist?
365
00:18:04,890 --> 00:18:07,157
That's only gonna take us so far.
366
00:18:07,157 --> 00:18:10,761
You're gonna take us
the rest of the way.
367
00:18:10,761 --> 00:18:13,013
Hey, it's Candace.
368
00:18:13,013 --> 00:18:15,091
Good to hear from you.
369
00:18:15,091 --> 00:18:16,745
How'd it go with the police?
370
00:18:16,745 --> 00:18:18,242
No problem.
371
00:18:18,242 --> 00:18:20,055
I got an appointment for you.
372
00:18:20,055 --> 00:18:21,757
Repeat customer.
373
00:18:21,757 --> 00:18:23,173
You'll like it.
374
00:18:23,173 --> 00:18:25,287
Great.
375
00:18:32,557 --> 00:18:35,845
What a nice surprise.
376
00:18:35,845 --> 00:18:38,910
- What's your name again?
- Katie.
377
00:18:38,910 --> 00:18:41,665
Of course.
378
00:18:41,665 --> 00:18:43,291
You know that's my favorite name.
379
00:18:43,291 --> 00:18:48,400
Yeah. You said that before.
380
00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,716
So...
381
00:18:52,289 --> 00:18:58,743
what do you...
wanna do?
382
00:18:58,743 --> 00:19:04,805
Well, I, uh, I like
what you're wearing. / Thanks.
383
00:19:04,805 --> 00:19:10,305
Would you like something to drink? / No.
384
00:19:10,305 --> 00:19:13,087
Do you have, like, a fantasy?
385
00:19:13,087 --> 00:19:20,745
or whatever that you wanna try out?
386
00:19:20,745 --> 00:19:27,534
You are just wonderful.
387
00:19:34,753 --> 00:19:36,618
I'm so pleased, Katie.
388
00:19:36,618 --> 00:19:43,447
This is quite a change
from our last encounter.
389
00:19:46,055 --> 00:19:51,207
Why don't you, uh, just
take your clothes off and...
390
00:19:51,207 --> 00:19:55,364
we'll have ourselves a good time.
391
00:19:55,364 --> 00:19:58,008
- Can I have a good time too?
- Me too.
392
00:19:58,008 --> 00:19:59,766
I bet we can all
have a lot of fun.
393
00:19:59,766 --> 00:20:01,109
Come on, Katie.
You did great.
394
00:20:01,109 --> 00:20:03,993
Teddy, you're under arrest.
395
00:20:03,993 --> 00:20:06,054
You have the right to remain silent.
You give up that right,
396
00:20:06,054 --> 00:20:08,860
anything you say can and will be used
against you in a court of law.
397
00:20:08,860 --> 00:20:10,355
You have the right to an attorney.
398
00:20:10,355 --> 00:20:14,016
If you can't afford one,
one will be appointed for you.
399
00:20:17,448 --> 00:20:18,874
I'm confused, detectives.
400
00:20:18,874 --> 00:20:21,572
You claim my client was attempting
to have sex with a minor.
401
00:20:21,572 --> 00:20:24,032
And you know this because
you can read his mind?
402
00:20:24,032 --> 00:20:27,873
No, we know this because he paid
the minor $2,000 to have sex.
403
00:20:27,873 --> 00:20:29,182
That's not true.
404
00:20:29,182 --> 00:20:32,542
He paid Janie Myer $4,000.
405
00:20:32,542 --> 00:20:35,170
Alisha Jackson got $6,500.
406
00:20:35,170 --> 00:20:39,717
Lori Reeves, payment totaling $123,000.
407
00:20:39,717 --> 00:20:41,550
Lori must have some
special talents, huh?
408
00:20:41,550 --> 00:20:42,989
You're intentionally spinning this.
409
00:20:42,989 --> 00:20:45,655
He's a philanthropist
giving indigent people money.
410
00:20:45,655 --> 00:20:47,357
Do you know how much
you've spent on them, Ted?
411
00:20:47,357 --> 00:20:50,669
Have you done the math, hmm?
412
00:20:50,669 --> 00:20:52,692
$2 million.
413
00:20:52,692 --> 00:20:55,461
Huh? $2 million worth of sex?
414
00:20:55,461 --> 00:20:56,992
Hundreds of women?
415
00:20:56,992 --> 00:20:59,176
I never paid anyone for sex.
416
00:20:59,176 --> 00:21:01,848
Did you use protection
every time, Mr. Carthage?
417
00:21:01,848 --> 00:21:05,048
Because many of those women
are IV drug users.
418
00:21:05,048 --> 00:21:07,621
Have you been tested for hep c, HIV?
419
00:21:07,621 --> 00:21:08,997
Has your wife?
420
00:21:08,997 --> 00:21:11,025
Because we could ask her.
421
00:21:11,025 --> 00:21:12,817
- I'm sorry, you're right.
- That's enough, Ted.
422
00:21:12,817 --> 00:21:16,504
No, no, I need to say this.
423
00:21:16,504 --> 00:21:20,720
I've been unfaithful. Many times.
424
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,195
But I never paid anyone for sex.
425
00:21:24,195 --> 00:21:26,871
They were my girlfriends.
426
00:21:26,871 --> 00:21:29,033
Wow.
427
00:21:29,033 --> 00:21:30,938
You're a busy guy, huh?
428
00:21:30,938 --> 00:21:34,062
So all of the financial transactions
that happened after the sex
429
00:21:34,062 --> 00:21:35,773
were completely unrelated.
430
00:21:35,773 --> 00:21:37,749
I wanted to help them.
I loved them!
431
00:21:37,749 --> 00:21:41,319
Obviously these are women
who saw a weak man
432
00:21:41,319 --> 00:21:44,073
and used his innate
generosity against him.
433
00:21:44,073 --> 00:21:45,452
You know, I bet that's true.
434
00:21:45,452 --> 00:21:48,005
So you're a victim, Teddy, huh?
435
00:21:48,005 --> 00:21:49,259
Maybe I'm a sex addict.
436
00:21:49,259 --> 00:21:51,261
Yeah, but that's not your only problem.
437
00:21:51,261 --> 00:21:52,762
Were they your girlfriends too?
438
00:21:52,762 --> 00:21:55,168
Because they're both
in your financial records.
439
00:21:55,168 --> 00:21:57,554
Gina made six grand off you.
Monica nearly 30.
440
00:21:57,554 --> 00:21:58,978
- We're done.
- You were used?
441
00:21:58,978 --> 00:22:01,509
You used these women's drug addictions
to turn them into prostitutes!
442
00:22:01,509 --> 00:22:04,618
Monica Phelps threatened to expose you,
so you killed her.
443
00:22:04,618 --> 00:22:05,686
Gina do the same thing?
444
00:22:05,686 --> 00:22:07,928
She was gonna destroy
everything you'd created?
445
00:22:07,928 --> 00:22:10,230
This B.S. humanitarian facade of yours?
446
00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:14,104
No, not another word, Ted.
447
00:22:14,104 --> 00:22:17,027
You don't have proof he murdered anyone.
448
00:22:17,027 --> 00:22:19,531
How about a witness?
449
00:22:22,370 --> 00:22:25,051
Number one.
450
00:22:25,051 --> 00:22:29,287
You're nothing without me, you whore.
451
00:22:29,287 --> 00:22:32,550
Number two.
452
00:22:32,550 --> 00:22:36,207
You're nothing without me, you whore.
453
00:22:36,207 --> 00:22:37,778
Three.
454
00:22:37,778 --> 00:22:40,420
You're nothing without me, you whore.
455
00:22:40,420 --> 00:22:41,448
Four.
456
00:22:41,448 --> 00:22:44,570
You're nothing without me, you whore.
457
00:22:44,570 --> 00:22:45,873
Number five.
458
00:22:45,873 --> 00:22:50,293
You're nothing without me, you whore.
459
00:22:50,293 --> 00:22:55,835
Nathan, do any of those voices sound
like the man from your apartment?
460
00:22:55,835 --> 00:22:58,078
I'd pick number two or five.
461
00:22:58,078 --> 00:22:59,428
- And we have our answer.
- Shut up.
462
00:22:59,428 --> 00:23:01,006
You can only choose one.
463
00:23:01,006 --> 00:23:03,577
So would you like to hear them again?
464
00:23:03,577 --> 00:23:05,285
I, I can get it.
465
00:23:05,285 --> 00:23:07,643
Number five, am I right?
466
00:23:07,643 --> 00:23:12,242
I need to get my client arraigned
so he's home by dinner.
467
00:23:12,242 --> 00:23:13,538
Number two?
468
00:23:13,538 --> 00:23:14,842
I can do it again.
469
00:23:14,842 --> 00:23:19,543
There is. It's okay.
You did very well.
470
00:23:20,419 --> 00:23:22,003
Can I do it over?
471
00:23:22,003 --> 00:23:25,142
No, honey, we're gonna
get the guy some other way.
472
00:23:25,142 --> 00:23:27,356
But you know what? There's an Italian
restaurant across the street.
473
00:23:27,356 --> 00:23:30,576
Come on. I'll buy you lunch.
474
00:23:31,878 --> 00:23:33,877
I heard that lawyer.
475
00:23:33,877 --> 00:23:36,405
He's gonna get out by dinner.
476
00:23:36,405 --> 00:23:38,023
Not if I can help it.
477
00:23:38,023 --> 00:23:42,177
Nathan, I am gonna do everything I can
478
00:23:42,177 --> 00:23:47,003
to put the man that killed
your mother in jail.
479
00:23:47,003 --> 00:23:51,683
Come on. Eat something.
480
00:23:57,015 --> 00:23:58,631
I know that guy.
481
00:23:58,631 --> 00:24:01,043
That's one of the good people.
482
00:24:01,043 --> 00:24:03,823
- Number two!
- Nathan, no!
483
00:24:03,823 --> 00:24:06,258
Nathan, no!
484
00:24:06,258 --> 00:24:08,655
Nathan!
Nathan!
485
00:24:08,655 --> 00:24:11,993
Nathan, get out of the street!
486
00:24:11,993 --> 00:24:15,157
Stop!
487
00:24:15,157 --> 00:24:16,729
Nathan!
488
00:24:16,729 --> 00:24:18,904
Stop! He killed my mom!
489
00:24:18,904 --> 00:24:20,069
He killed my mom!
490
00:24:20,069 --> 00:24:24,077
Nathan! Nathan! Nathan!
491
00:24:25,881 --> 00:24:28,714
It's okay.
492
00:24:28,714 --> 00:24:31,536
It's okay.
493
00:24:31,536 --> 00:24:32,895
He recognized Carthage.
494
00:24:32,895 --> 00:24:34,857
- Because he's seen him before.
- Yeah, killing his mother.
495
00:24:34,857 --> 00:24:36,812
He never saw his mother's
killer, you know that, Liv.
496
00:24:36,812 --> 00:24:38,129
Seeing him triggered his memory.
497
00:24:38,129 --> 00:24:40,858
Or he figured it out
when he saw Carthage in handcuffs
498
00:24:40,858 --> 00:24:42,209
with the same attorney from the line-up.
499
00:24:42,209 --> 00:24:43,345
Look, it doesn't matter.
500
00:24:43,345 --> 00:24:45,930
Nathan picked the wrong voice,
so any ID he makes now is tainted.
501
00:24:45,930 --> 00:24:47,512
Can't we let a jury decide that?
502
00:24:47,512 --> 00:24:50,163
No judge would ever
let this go before a jury.
503
00:24:50,163 --> 00:24:52,561
We can try and keep Carthage off
the street for statutory rape
504
00:24:52,561 --> 00:24:54,333
until we can make the murder case.
505
00:24:54,333 --> 00:24:58,210
Might not have to.
Shots fired at my salvation charities.
506
00:24:58,210 --> 00:24:59,960
Where's Nathan?
507
00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:02,584
He's in the crib.
508
00:25:06,694 --> 00:25:09,632
Black male youth entered the premises
approximately 50 minutes ago.
509
00:25:09,632 --> 00:25:11,491
Demanded to see the guy in charge.
510
00:25:11,491 --> 00:25:12,704
The victim approached the subject,
511
00:25:12,704 --> 00:25:14,606
who immediately shot him
twice in the chest.
512
00:25:14,606 --> 00:25:15,900
Who else is inside?
513
00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:17,019
Just the shooter and the victim.
514
00:25:17,019 --> 00:25:18,211
Kid let everybody else go.
515
00:25:18,211 --> 00:25:21,314
Please help my husband.
He needs an ambulance!
516
00:25:21,314 --> 00:25:22,645
Victim still alive?
517
00:25:22,645 --> 00:25:25,905
We've been calling for him.
No answer.
518
00:25:26,382 --> 00:25:28,799
- Any contact from the shooter?
- Not a word.
519
00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:31,678
We're prepared to go in.
520
00:25:32,094 --> 00:25:35,180
Let me go.
521
00:25:35,180 --> 00:25:38,779
Only if you're armed and protected.
522
00:25:41,356 --> 00:25:49,012
Nathan? It's detective Benson.
I'm coming in.
523
00:25:49,012 --> 00:25:54,865
Nathan? Tell me where you are.
524
00:26:19,352 --> 00:26:21,341
Nathan...
525
00:26:21,341 --> 00:26:25,916
I need you to put that gun
down on the floor now.
526
00:26:25,916 --> 00:26:27,736
I didn't know what else to do.
527
00:26:27,736 --> 00:26:29,246
He was alive,
and my mom was dead!
528
00:26:29,246 --> 00:26:31,360
Nathan, I know.
529
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,862
I understand that.
530
00:26:33,862 --> 00:26:36,842
But now I need you to listen.
531
00:26:36,842 --> 00:26:41,470
Okay? You have to give me that gun.
532
00:26:41,470 --> 00:26:45,401
Nathan, I don't want anything
bad to happen to you.
533
00:26:45,401 --> 00:26:47,511
He shot her!
534
00:26:47,511 --> 00:26:51,464
I messed up, and I had to fix it!
535
00:26:56,408 --> 00:27:01,109
She tried to give me
to a social worker.
536
00:27:01,570 --> 00:27:05,039
Your mother?
537
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:09,883
I don't even care anymore.
538
00:27:12,778 --> 00:27:16,142
I do.
539
00:27:16,755 --> 00:27:20,855
Your mom was really sick.
540
00:27:20,855 --> 00:27:26,217
I would be lucky
to have a son like you.
541
00:27:26,217 --> 00:27:30,383
Anybody would.
542
00:27:37,386 --> 00:27:40,106
Where did you get the gun?
543
00:27:40,106 --> 00:27:44,359
A kid down the hall in my building.
544
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,496
It was his dad's.
545
00:27:46,496 --> 00:27:49,702
How did you find
Mr. Carthage's office?
546
00:27:49,702 --> 00:27:52,833
411.
547
00:27:52,833 --> 00:27:56,155
I think you can see that we're
trying to cooperate here.
548
00:27:56,155 --> 00:27:57,740
And I would hope that in return
549
00:27:57,740 --> 00:28:01,968
that the people would take into consideration
the extenuating circumstances.
550
00:28:01,968 --> 00:28:04,639
- We can't, Sophie.
- Yes, you can.
551
00:28:04,639 --> 00:28:06,688
You're choosing not to.
552
00:28:06,688 --> 00:28:09,230
Your detectives found the gun
in Ted Carthage's desk.
553
00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:12,116
Ted Carthage murdered his mother.
554
00:28:12,116 --> 00:28:15,134
My client really should
be tried as a juvenile.
555
00:28:15,134 --> 00:28:17,843
The DA will only allow him
to be tried as an adult.
556
00:28:17,843 --> 00:28:20,792
- And I don't have a choice.
- Nathan...
557
00:28:20,792 --> 00:28:24,084
I told you that we'd get him.
558
00:28:24,084 --> 00:28:29,041
- Why didn't you listen to me?
- I'm sorry.
559
00:28:29,041 --> 00:28:30,966
Casey, can't you show
a little mercy here?
560
00:28:30,966 --> 00:28:33,249
Considering everything
he's been through.
561
00:28:33,249 --> 00:28:36,206
Man two, he serves
in a juvenile facility.
562
00:28:36,206 --> 00:28:39,542
I'm not enjoying this,
but mercy isn't enough.
563
00:28:39,542 --> 00:28:43,534
I'll plead this out
if you give me a reason to.
564
00:28:44,077 --> 00:28:46,002
TRIAL PART 29
MONDAY, DECEMBER 12
565
00:28:46,002 --> 00:28:50,442
Some of you might think that Nathan Phelps
acted out of simple vengeance.
566
00:28:50,442 --> 00:28:54,518
Ted Carthage murdered his mother,
so he murdered Ted Carthage.
567
00:28:54,518 --> 00:28:58,063
That is what the assistant district
attorney will argue.
568
00:28:58,063 --> 00:29:05,597
She will tell you that anyone who kills
out of retaliation should go to jail.
569
00:29:05,597 --> 00:29:07,643
I agree with her.
570
00:29:07,643 --> 00:29:10,900
But that is not what my client did.
571
00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:14,115
Did he hate Ted Carthage?
Absolutely.
572
00:29:14,115 --> 00:29:17,301
Did he kill him?
Yes.
573
00:29:17,301 --> 00:29:20,082
So if not out of retaliation,
574
00:29:20,082 --> 00:29:23,542
what made Nathan do it?
575
00:29:23,542 --> 00:29:27,160
This is a new study
published in science magazine.
576
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,265
It found that people who have
witnessed gun violence
577
00:29:32,265 --> 00:29:36,054
are twice as likely,
sometimes three times as likely,
578
00:29:36,054 --> 00:29:38,809
to commit an act of violence themselves.
579
00:29:38,809 --> 00:29:43,904
Nathan witnessed Ted Carthage
shoot his mother.
580
00:29:43,904 --> 00:29:51,770
And just as the study predicts,
he reacted with violence.
581
00:29:51,770 --> 00:29:58,172
This study equates gun violence
with an infectious disease.
582
00:29:58,172 --> 00:30:02,225
Anyone exposed to it is infected.
583
00:30:02,225 --> 00:30:05,845
Now, you may not agree
or like this study.
584
00:30:05,845 --> 00:30:08,467
Gun manufacturers don't like it either.
585
00:30:08,467 --> 00:30:10,925
It goes against their mantra.
586
00:30:10,925 --> 00:30:15,752
"Guns don't kill people.
People kill people."
587
00:30:15,752 --> 00:30:19,092
But this study points to something
588
00:30:19,092 --> 00:30:25,414
that is almost unspeakable
in today's gun culture. And that is,
589
00:30:25,414 --> 00:30:28,347
that the blame for violence
590
00:30:28,347 --> 00:30:33,520
can be directly placed on the gun.
591
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,880
Once you see someone
squeeze the trigger,
592
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,358
it's easier to do it yourself.
593
00:30:40,358 --> 00:30:45,879
Nathan saw his mother
shot to death in front of him,
594
00:30:45,879 --> 00:30:51,857
and at that moment
he contracted the disease.
595
00:30:51,857 --> 00:30:54,056
It wasn't his choice,
596
00:30:54,056 --> 00:30:58,132
any more that it is your choice
to catch a cold
597
00:30:58,132 --> 00:31:03,049
after someone has sneezed on you.
598
00:31:03,049 --> 00:31:06,595
Violence is the disease.
599
00:31:06,595 --> 00:31:11,034
Guns are the virus.
600
00:31:11,034 --> 00:31:16,234
And we have an epidemic on our hands.
601
00:31:17,647 --> 00:31:20,609
Ms. Novak, your first witness.
602
00:31:20,609 --> 00:31:23,598
The people call detective Olivia Benson.
603
00:31:23,598 --> 00:31:27,210
At any point did Nathan Phelps
admit he shot and killed Ted Carthage?
604
00:31:27,210 --> 00:31:29,706
At the crime scene
and during the questioning.
605
00:31:29,706 --> 00:31:31,001
Did he say why?
606
00:31:31,001 --> 00:31:32,894
Nathan said that it was his fault
607
00:31:32,894 --> 00:31:35,085
that Mr. Carthage hadn't been charged
with his mother's murder.
608
00:31:35,085 --> 00:31:38,234
He said that he had to do something.
609
00:31:38,234 --> 00:31:41,232
Did Nathan blame his actions
on seeing his mother get shot?
610
00:31:41,232 --> 00:31:43,575
Objection. Leading the witness.
611
00:31:43,575 --> 00:31:47,399
- Sustained.
- No further questions.
612
00:31:47,399 --> 00:31:49,731
Detective.
613
00:31:49,731 --> 00:31:53,062
You found Nathan in that closet. / Yes.
614
00:31:53,062 --> 00:31:55,111
What was his emotional state?
615
00:31:55,111 --> 00:31:57,005
He was traumatized.
616
00:31:57,005 --> 00:31:59,961
In the course of your investigation,
did you find any evidence of
617
00:31:59,961 --> 00:32:03,125
violent behavior in Nathan's past? / No.
618
00:32:03,125 --> 00:32:05,681
Any emotional instability? / No.
619
00:32:05,681 --> 00:32:09,767
You had lots of opportunity
to observe Nathan's behavior.
620
00:32:09,767 --> 00:32:12,649
You let him sleep in the precinct.
You took him out to eat.
621
00:32:12,649 --> 00:32:14,291
You got close.
622
00:32:14,291 --> 00:32:17,105
- Your honor, is there a question?
- Yes, there is.
623
00:32:17,105 --> 00:32:19,394
In your opinion, detective,
624
00:32:19,394 --> 00:32:23,635
would Nathan ever have
done anything to harm anyone
625
00:32:23,635 --> 00:32:25,934
had he not witnessed
his mother's shooting?
626
00:32:25,934 --> 00:32:29,494
- Objection. Leading.
- Sustained.
627
00:32:29,494 --> 00:32:32,637
No. I don't think
that he would've.
628
00:32:32,637 --> 00:32:36,475
Objection, your honor.
Move to strike. / Sustained.
629
00:32:36,475 --> 00:32:39,381
The jury will disregard
the witness' statement.
630
00:32:39,381 --> 00:32:42,117
No further questions.
631
00:32:42,117 --> 00:32:44,092
Detective Benson...
632
00:32:44,092 --> 00:32:47,201
does witnessing a murder
justify committing a murder?
633
00:32:47,201 --> 00:32:49,070
It doesn't justify it.
634
00:32:49,070 --> 00:32:52,074
But it might explain it.
635
00:32:58,545 --> 00:33:00,039
Casey...
636
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:01,230
You here to ambush me again?
637
00:33:01,230 --> 00:33:02,978
I'm here to apologize.
638
00:33:02,978 --> 00:33:04,473
You gave the jury a reason to acquit.
639
00:33:04,473 --> 00:33:08,095
I was trying to tell the truth.
I'm sorry.
640
00:33:08,095 --> 00:33:10,136
What are you gonna do?
641
00:33:10,136 --> 00:33:12,288
Draft a plea bargain.
642
00:33:12,288 --> 00:33:14,330
I damaged your case that much?
643
00:33:14,330 --> 00:33:16,293
You changed my mind.
644
00:33:16,293 --> 00:33:21,025
And I'll bet you convinced a juror or two.
645
00:33:23,388 --> 00:33:25,188
TRIAL PART 29
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 13
646
00:33:25,188 --> 00:33:27,382
Your honor, the parties have
reached a plea bargain in this case.
647
00:33:27,382 --> 00:33:31,289
The defendant will plead guilty to one
count of manslaughter in the second degree.
648
00:33:31,289 --> 00:33:32,409
I beg your pardon, your honor.
649
00:33:32,409 --> 00:33:34,158
Mike Geddes, representing
the Carthage family.
650
00:33:34,158 --> 00:33:35,460
I'd like to be heard
in this matter.
651
00:33:35,460 --> 00:33:37,728
The Carthage family
has no standing on this case.
652
00:33:37,728 --> 00:33:40,537
Well, I've got a court order from
judge Joseph Malloy stating otherwise.
653
00:33:40,537 --> 00:33:44,592
Well, counselors, I am afraid
we are unable to continue.
654
00:33:44,592 --> 00:33:46,342
I've just been handed
a restraining order
655
00:33:46,342 --> 00:33:49,093
enjoining me from accepting
the defendant's plea bargain
656
00:33:49,093 --> 00:33:52,456
and summoning us all
to appear in civil court.
657
00:33:52,456 --> 00:33:55,099
See you in the morning.
658
00:34:01,704 --> 00:34:04,534
Ted Carthage's wife
can stop your plea bargain?
659
00:34:04,534 --> 00:34:07,678
No, but she can mess up our lives
for a couple of weeks. / How?
660
00:34:07,678 --> 00:34:11,188
Well, Donnelly can't take Nathan's plea
until a civil court judge decides
661
00:34:11,188 --> 00:34:13,397
whether Mrs. Carthage can block it.
662
00:34:13,397 --> 00:34:15,510
- The lawyer's slick.
- Ah, you'll beat him.
663
00:34:15,510 --> 00:34:17,639
Well, Geddes cannot keep us
from filing forever.
664
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:19,168
Don't get cocky yet.
665
00:34:19,168 --> 00:34:20,984
You haven't heard
who's paying his salary.
666
00:34:20,984 --> 00:34:24,792
- Terri Carthage?
- Try the national gun association.
667
00:34:24,792 --> 00:34:27,059
Why would the NGA get involved
in a murder trial?
668
00:34:27,059 --> 00:34:29,989
Devere said it in her opening statement.
669
00:34:29,989 --> 00:34:32,164
The gun manufacturers, they're
afraid of the violence study
670
00:34:32,164 --> 00:34:34,935
because they might be held accountable
for children committing murders.
671
00:34:34,935 --> 00:34:37,105
Once the DA's office
bases a plea on this study,
672
00:34:37,105 --> 00:34:38,637
it legitimizes the research.
673
00:34:38,637 --> 00:34:40,697
People believe that gun violence
breeds more violence.
674
00:34:40,697 --> 00:34:41,978
Good-bye second amendment.
675
00:34:41,978 --> 00:34:43,693
We got bigger problems
than the right to bear arms
676
00:34:43,693 --> 00:34:45,813
if the NGA successfully
stops this plea.
677
00:34:45,813 --> 00:34:47,798
What's bigger than
challenging the constitution?
678
00:34:47,798 --> 00:34:51,194
You enjoy having a fully
functioning judicial system?
679
00:34:51,194 --> 00:34:53,029
Do you find it useful
to put criminals in jail?
680
00:34:53,029 --> 00:34:54,598
Because if this happens,
681
00:34:54,598 --> 00:34:56,472
- you can kiss it all good-bye.
- Come on.
682
00:34:56,472 --> 00:34:59,957
If the NGA can stop a plea,
then any individual corporation
683
00:34:59,957 --> 00:35:03,024
or special interest group with the money
and the inclination can do the same.
684
00:35:03,024 --> 00:35:05,614
And if prosecutors lose the ability
to make plea bargains,
685
00:35:05,614 --> 00:35:07,564
the legal system comes
to a grinding halt.
686
00:35:07,564 --> 00:35:09,896
So what do we do?
687
00:35:09,896 --> 00:35:11,401
You mean what do you do.
688
00:35:11,401 --> 00:35:13,607
Your office has the most to lose here.
689
00:35:13,607 --> 00:35:15,861
You need to take the lead on this.
690
00:35:15,861 --> 00:35:18,935
Get your arguments ready.
691
00:35:20,585 --> 00:35:23,610
Your honor, the district attorney has
the right to enter into plea agreements
692
00:35:23,610 --> 00:35:25,335
without input from the victim's family.
693
00:35:25,335 --> 00:35:27,708
Which is why congress is considering
amending the constitution
694
00:35:27,708 --> 00:35:29,652
to enact the crime victim's
bill of rights.
695
00:35:29,652 --> 00:35:31,802
Victims' families should
have standing in plea bargains.
696
00:35:31,802 --> 00:35:34,700
Mr. Geddes isn't concerned with
the rights of victims or their families.
697
00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:37,101
He's using this case to further
his employer's agenda.
698
00:35:37,101 --> 00:35:39,992
The NGA's interests and the Carthage
family's interests are one and the same.
699
00:35:39,992 --> 00:35:42,808
A bogus study is being used
to cut a murderer a deal,
700
00:35:42,808 --> 00:35:45,180
and many of us...
Yes,
701
00:35:45,180 --> 00:35:47,461
including the NGA,
take issue with that.
702
00:35:47,461 --> 00:35:49,728
Well, the NGA takes issue
with every study about guns.
703
00:35:49,728 --> 00:35:52,174
These are the same people
that got congress to kill a multimillion
704
00:35:52,174 --> 00:35:54,931
- dollar firearms research budget.
- We're here to talk about this study,
705
00:35:54,931 --> 00:35:57,509
which may be biased, inapplicable,
maybe flat-out wrong.
706
00:35:57,509 --> 00:36:00,988
But we don't know, because it
hasn't been fully vetted by the courts.
707
00:36:00,988 --> 00:36:02,457
Then let's do that.
708
00:36:02,457 --> 00:36:04,991
I'm ordering an evidentiary hearing.
709
00:36:04,991 --> 00:36:07,810
You have someone that can
explain more about this study?
710
00:36:07,810 --> 00:36:10,283
Yes, he's an expert on
juvenile violence.
711
00:36:10,283 --> 00:36:15,222
Get your codefendants together
and let's hear what he's got to say.
712
00:36:15,774 --> 00:36:18,145
CIVIL COURT
PORT 8
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 14
713
00:36:18,145 --> 00:36:22,870
The authors of the study interviewed
over 1,500 children in the Chicago area.
714
00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:24,766
They also interviewed caretakers,
715
00:36:24,766 --> 00:36:26,889
and collected data on families.
716
00:36:26,889 --> 00:36:29,165
School performance, economic standing.
717
00:36:29,165 --> 00:36:31,252
Over 150 factors in all.
718
00:36:31,252 --> 00:36:33,461
How many times were
the subjects interviewed?
719
00:36:33,461 --> 00:36:35,733
Three times over five years.
720
00:36:35,733 --> 00:36:38,094
The goal was to determine
which of them
721
00:36:38,094 --> 00:36:40,344
had witnessed
or been victims of gun violence,
722
00:36:40,344 --> 00:36:42,809
and how they differed
from those subjects who had not.
723
00:36:42,809 --> 00:36:44,917
What were the findings?
724
00:36:44,917 --> 00:36:47,729
Those subjects that had
seen gun violence
725
00:36:47,729 --> 00:36:51,371
were at least twice as likely
to commit a violent act in the future.
726
00:36:51,371 --> 00:36:54,446
It's more predictive
than poverty, drug use,
727
00:36:54,446 --> 00:36:57,050
or being raised by a single parent.
728
00:36:57,050 --> 00:36:59,114
So what does this mean?
729
00:36:59,114 --> 00:37:02,243
We need to look at
gun violence in a new way.
730
00:37:02,243 --> 00:37:05,978
It isn't a societal problem
or a class problem.
731
00:37:05,978 --> 00:37:07,805
It's a medical problem.
732
00:37:07,805 --> 00:37:10,735
We need to treat it like
it's an infectious disease.
733
00:37:10,735 --> 00:37:13,671
Policy makers can stop
the spread of this disease
734
00:37:13,671 --> 00:37:16,152
by limiting exposure
to gun violence
735
00:37:16,152 --> 00:37:19,217
and treating those who have
been exposed early on.
736
00:37:19,217 --> 00:37:21,951
Thank you, doctor.
737
00:37:22,930 --> 00:37:24,751
Do you believe
there's a causal link
738
00:37:24,751 --> 00:37:28,537
between witnessing gun violence and
becoming violent, as your study claims?
739
00:37:28,537 --> 00:37:29,880
Yes.
740
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,745
Even though many people witness gun
violence and do not become violent.
741
00:37:33,745 --> 00:37:38,944
You've been exposed to many viruses
in your life without getting sick.
742
00:37:38,944 --> 00:37:44,729
I thought the way to prove cause and effect
was through a controlled experiment.
743
00:37:44,729 --> 00:37:47,971
But this study was only
a statistical analysis, right?
744
00:37:47,971 --> 00:37:50,209
A controlled experiment would require
745
00:37:50,209 --> 00:37:53,082
deliberately exposing children
to gun violence.
746
00:37:53,082 --> 00:37:54,503
Which, of course, is unethical.
747
00:37:54,503 --> 00:37:58,714
So they use the second best method.
748
00:37:58,714 --> 00:38:04,330
Thereby obtaining
the second best results.
749
00:38:04,330 --> 00:38:07,372
Perfect.
Nothing further.
750
00:38:07,372 --> 00:38:10,463
You're excused, Dr. Young.
751
00:38:10,463 --> 00:38:11,934
Your honor...
752
00:38:11,934 --> 00:38:15,073
I'd like to request that Nathan Phelps
be called to testify.
753
00:38:15,073 --> 00:38:17,109
Objection, your honor.
Relevance.
754
00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:19,223
This hearing is to examine
a scientific study.
755
00:38:19,223 --> 00:38:21,685
Any testimony from
Nathan Phelps is immaterial.
756
00:38:21,685 --> 00:38:24,669
I disagree. Whether or not
we believe the study to be valid,
757
00:38:24,669 --> 00:38:28,082
shouldn't we determine at least if
the boy fits the criteria the study set forth?
758
00:38:28,082 --> 00:38:29,703
What exactly did Nathan see,
759
00:38:29,703 --> 00:38:31,630
what are his motives?
Only he can answer that.
760
00:38:31,630 --> 00:38:34,314
Your honor, the fifth amendment
prohibits this court.../ Ask for a recess.
761
00:38:34,314 --> 00:38:38,389
From compelling my client
to incriminate himself. / Recess now.
762
00:38:38,389 --> 00:38:40,757
Your honor, may we have
10 minutes, please?
763
00:38:40,757 --> 00:38:44,389
- He's not testifying, period!
- Let him.
764
00:38:44,389 --> 00:38:48,115
- And let him incriminate himself?
- Exactly.
765
00:38:48,115 --> 00:38:50,121
Are you crazy?
766
00:38:50,121 --> 00:38:52,812
What do you think, counselor?
767
00:38:52,812 --> 00:38:55,344
A jury's been sworn in
on the criminal case.
768
00:38:55,344 --> 00:38:57,636
A witness has testified.
769
00:38:57,636 --> 00:39:00,538
Do you see where this is heading?
770
00:39:00,538 --> 00:39:04,645
- You gonna screw us over on this?
- Trust me.
771
00:39:04,645 --> 00:39:08,581
Why did you kill Ted Carthage?
772
00:39:08,581 --> 00:39:10,243
I don't know.
773
00:39:10,243 --> 00:39:13,152
Didn't he kill your mom?
774
00:39:13,152 --> 00:39:15,986
Yeah. / So are you lying when
you say you don't know?
775
00:39:15,986 --> 00:39:17,607
I'm not lying.
776
00:39:17,607 --> 00:39:20,823
- Was your mom a prostitute?
- I don't know.
777
00:39:20,823 --> 00:39:25,973
Did you have a nice apartment
when she was alive? / It was okay.
778
00:39:25,973 --> 00:39:29,120
Was there a lot of crime
in the neighborhood? / I guess.
779
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,991
Did you have a nice life, Nathan?
780
00:39:33,933 --> 00:39:36,398
- Yes.
- Doesn't sound like it.
781
00:39:36,398 --> 00:39:42,278
How old were you when
your dad was stabbed to death? / Six.
782
00:39:42,278 --> 00:39:45,070
If you could, would you shoot
the guy who stabbed your dad,
783
00:39:45,070 --> 00:39:46,800
just like you shot Ted Carthage? / No.
784
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,474
No? Why not?
He stabbed your father.
785
00:39:49,474 --> 00:39:53,047
- I don't wanna kill anybody!
- Sure, you did. You were angry./ No.
786
00:39:53,047 --> 00:39:55,760
Yeah, Ted Carthage killed your mother.
You hated him. / Stop it!
787
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,171
You didn't kill
because you saw the gun.
788
00:39:57,171 --> 00:39:58,510
You wanted to hurt him!
You hated him,
789
00:39:58,510 --> 00:40:04,240
- and you wanted him to die!
- Yes, I hated him, all right?
790
00:40:11,102 --> 00:40:14,329
Nothing further.
791
00:40:22,260 --> 00:40:25,234
We have no questions for this witness.
792
00:40:25,234 --> 00:40:29,223
- Are you sure, Ms. Novak?
- I am.
793
00:40:29,223 --> 00:40:32,824
You're excused, son.
794
00:40:35,929 --> 00:40:39,088
Your honor, at this time,
the defense would move for a mistrial.
795
00:40:39,088 --> 00:40:42,321
Ms. Devere, you can't do that.
This is a hearing, not a trial.
796
00:40:42,321 --> 00:40:44,395
My apologies, judge Malloy.
797
00:40:44,395 --> 00:40:47,720
That motion wasn't made to you.
I'm speaking to judge Donnelly.
798
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:52,387
Nathan Phelps was compelled to
incriminate himself in these proceedings.
799
00:40:52,387 --> 00:40:55,207
The testimony is admissible
in his criminal trial
800
00:40:55,207 --> 00:40:58,086
and violates his right
against self-incrimination.
801
00:40:58,086 --> 00:41:00,235
It's grounds for a mistrial.
802
00:41:00,235 --> 00:41:02,480
Motion granted.
803
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:08,821
The criminal case against Nathan Phelps
is dismissed with prejudice. / What?
804
00:41:08,821 --> 00:41:11,882
In that event, judge Malloy,
I move to dismiss this proceeding.
805
00:41:11,882 --> 00:41:13,889
Now that there is no case
against Nathan Phelps,
806
00:41:13,889 --> 00:41:16,776
there is no reason
to investigate this research.
807
00:41:16,776 --> 00:41:19,988
Your honor, this is a set-up,
perpetrated by the DA's office.
808
00:41:19,988 --> 00:41:22,356
Mr. Geddes, I'd agree with you,
809
00:41:22,356 --> 00:41:26,546
except you're the one who called
Mr. Phelps to the stand.
810
00:41:26,546 --> 00:41:31,329
This action is dismissed.
Court is adjourned.
811
00:41:53,868 --> 00:41:56,606
Killer got a foster family.
That's nice.
812
00:41:56,606 --> 00:41:59,394
- You're a jerk, Geddes.
- Yeah, and you got a murderer off.
813
00:41:59,394 --> 00:42:02,505
Nathan Phelps would be serving
the sentence I had already negotiated,
814
00:42:02,505 --> 00:42:04,820
had you not gotten involved.
So why don't we put the blame
815
00:42:04,820 --> 00:42:07,064
where it really belongs.
On your bosses.
816
00:42:07,064 --> 00:42:12,312
Casey, you honestly believe
that guns cause a disease?
817
00:42:12,312 --> 00:42:13,918
My dad had guns.
818
00:42:13,918 --> 00:42:16,473
He taught me how to use them
when I was a kid.
819
00:42:16,473 --> 00:42:20,393
But I never saw anyone
gunned down in front of me. Have you?
820
00:42:20,393 --> 00:42:23,444
Taking away guns isn't gonna
cure the world of violence.
821
00:42:23,444 --> 00:42:25,447
Unless the study's true.
822
00:42:25,447 --> 00:42:29,080
Then everything's different, isn't it?
823
00:42:29,793 --> 00:42:34,139
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