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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,762 --> 00:00:15,272 One genre-bending film 2 00:00:16,349 --> 00:00:17,978 that broke all the rules. 3 00:00:18,059 --> 00:00:19,189 There's a new guy in town. 4 00:00:19,853 --> 00:00:21,483 One tragic hero 5 00:00:21,562 --> 00:00:23,943 who embodied the human spirit. 6 00:00:24,024 --> 00:00:25,324 Murphy, it's you… 7 00:00:26,568 --> 00:00:29,527 And one iconic title… 8 00:00:29,611 --> 00:00:31,161 Who is he? What is he? 9 00:00:32,156 --> 00:00:34,326 …that changed science fiction. 10 00:00:39,831 --> 00:00:41,081 RoboCop? 11 00:00:41,165 --> 00:00:42,625 They're changing that title, right? 12 00:00:42,709 --> 00:00:43,709 You must be kidding. 13 00:00:43,752 --> 00:00:46,112 Yeah, fair enough. Maybe some context is in order. 14 00:00:46,170 --> 00:00:50,091 You see, this violent dissection of American culture… 15 00:00:50,174 --> 00:00:51,795 I'd buy that for a dollar. 16 00:00:51,884 --> 00:00:54,795 …was directed by a European. Go! 17 00:00:54,887 --> 00:00:57,468 …whose sophisticated approach to filmmaking… 18 00:00:57,557 --> 00:00:59,176 Paul's a world-class director. 19 00:00:59,267 --> 00:01:00,767 …can mostly be defined by… 20 00:01:00,851 --> 00:01:02,981 "Bigger." "I need bigger. I need bigger." 21 00:01:03,479 --> 00:01:06,150 Which was a big problem for those on the crew… 22 00:01:06,231 --> 00:01:08,442 Everyone had a horrible time on RoboCop. 23 00:01:08,525 --> 00:01:10,316 …who were all feeling the heat… 24 00:01:10,403 --> 00:01:11,862 Sweating our balls off. 25 00:01:11,945 --> 00:01:13,025 …of the tight budget… 26 00:01:13,114 --> 00:01:15,534 Which was not a tremendous amount of money. 27 00:01:15,617 --> 00:01:16,527 …tight schedule… 28 00:01:16,617 --> 00:01:18,617 That just immediately set them back. 29 00:01:18,703 --> 00:01:20,332 In super hyper-crunch mode. 30 00:01:20,412 --> 00:01:22,123 …and very tight suit. 31 00:01:22,206 --> 00:01:23,206 Can't take a piss. 32 00:01:24,751 --> 00:01:26,751 This is the excruciatingly… 33 00:01:26,835 --> 00:01:28,665 Agh! …painful story… 34 00:01:28,754 --> 00:01:31,375 Parts were rubbing him wrong. …of how RoboCop… 35 00:01:31,466 --> 00:01:33,466 I am the future of law enforcement. 36 00:01:33,551 --> 00:01:34,801 …gracefully hobbled… 37 00:01:34,885 --> 00:01:37,256 It's gonna look like that? …into cinematic history. 38 00:01:37,347 --> 00:01:39,137 Really action-adventure. 39 00:01:39,223 --> 00:01:41,774 Forever cementing the undeniable fact… 40 00:01:41,850 --> 00:01:43,561 Ooh. …that… 41 00:01:43,645 --> 00:01:46,555 RoboCop is a brilliant title and a brilliant film. 42 00:01:46,647 --> 00:01:48,018 Exactly. 43 00:02:10,170 --> 00:02:13,471 These are The Movies That Made Us. 44 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,600 In the early '80s… 45 00:02:20,764 --> 00:02:22,474 a movie was made… 46 00:02:22,558 --> 00:02:23,938 And I was like, "What's it about?" 47 00:02:24,894 --> 00:02:26,774 …that inspired filmmakers… 48 00:02:26,854 --> 00:02:28,354 "It's about a robot." 49 00:02:28,438 --> 00:02:30,938 …and wannabe filmmakers alike… 50 00:02:31,025 --> 00:02:33,235 It was just the biggest set I'd ever seen in my life. 51 00:02:33,777 --> 00:02:36,108 …which left everyone asking… 52 00:02:37,656 --> 00:02:39,026 What is this shit? 53 00:02:39,116 --> 00:02:41,326 They also asked… "What is this movie?" 54 00:02:41,411 --> 00:02:44,081 No, not RoboCop, if that's what you're thinking. 55 00:02:44,163 --> 00:02:47,084 He's talking about the movie that very directly spawned it. 56 00:02:47,167 --> 00:02:50,456 Called Blade Runner. They said, "It's about a robot." That's the robot. 57 00:02:50,545 --> 00:02:52,375 Of course, it is. Sean Young. 58 00:02:53,046 --> 00:02:55,046 And I remember my first response was… 59 00:02:59,219 --> 00:03:01,009 That's not a robot. Okay. 60 00:03:01,097 --> 00:03:04,766 Well, this movie about robots that don't look like robots… 61 00:03:04,850 --> 00:03:07,020 They were designed to copy human beings. 62 00:03:07,103 --> 00:03:12,073 …inspired this movie about a robotic policeman otherwise known as… 63 00:03:13,318 --> 00:03:14,987 RoboCop. Which is what? 64 00:03:15,694 --> 00:03:18,194 This shiny hulking mass of justice… 65 00:03:18,281 --> 00:03:19,950 You are under arrest. 66 00:03:20,033 --> 00:03:21,622 …which was created from the residue… 67 00:03:21,700 --> 00:03:23,950 Clear. …of a real human man. 68 00:03:24,037 --> 00:03:27,076 Left behind from an excessive use of force… 69 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,461 Good night, sweet prince. 70 00:03:30,460 --> 00:03:33,420 …and reassembled into a mighty… 71 00:03:33,503 --> 00:03:34,343 …sharp-witted… 72 00:03:34,421 --> 00:03:35,632 Stay out of trouble. 73 00:03:35,715 --> 00:03:38,375 …sharpshooting "robo cop." 74 00:03:39,509 --> 00:03:40,509 This guy's really good. 75 00:03:40,594 --> 00:03:43,175 But when the morsels of his humanity 76 00:03:43,264 --> 00:03:45,813 leak into the remnants of his brain… 77 00:03:45,891 --> 00:03:48,391 We killed you. …through the help of his partner 78 00:03:48,478 --> 00:03:51,768 and the haunting memories of his family… Can you do that, Dad? 79 00:03:51,855 --> 00:03:57,066 …he's able to rid the new Detroit streets of the criminals, the corruption… 80 00:03:57,152 --> 00:03:58,402 You're fired! 81 00:03:58,947 --> 00:04:01,907 …and the competition. You're illegally parked. 82 00:04:03,075 --> 00:04:06,156 All in a day's work for Officer… 83 00:04:07,705 --> 00:04:08,615 Murphy. 84 00:04:08,705 --> 00:04:10,425 And while the events of this film 85 00:04:10,457 --> 00:04:12,497 are set in Detroit in the near future, 86 00:04:12,585 --> 00:04:16,415 its origins can be traced to Burbank of the 1980s. 87 00:04:16,505 --> 00:04:18,716 Specifically Warner Bros. Studios. 88 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,800 My office, which was in a trailer, was on the backlot. 89 00:04:21,886 --> 00:04:26,175 Where a young script reader, Ed Neumeier, was pondering his existence. 90 00:04:26,266 --> 00:04:28,475 When you're a reader, you're very frustrated, 91 00:04:28,559 --> 00:04:30,649 'cause all you wanna do is something else. 92 00:04:30,728 --> 00:04:34,268 You read thousands of scripts and most of them not very good. 93 00:04:34,356 --> 00:04:36,356 But despite his dissatisfaction… 94 00:04:36,442 --> 00:04:37,651 I would get done with the day 95 00:04:37,735 --> 00:04:39,894 and instead of going home, I would just go to the set. 96 00:04:39,987 --> 00:04:41,817 But not just any set. 97 00:04:43,533 --> 00:04:44,533 Blade Runner. 98 00:04:44,617 --> 00:04:47,947 There were so many people on the set, that they didn't know who was working. 99 00:04:48,036 --> 00:04:50,956 And so, Ed secretly embedded himself… 100 00:04:52,457 --> 00:04:54,338 …amongst the crew's art department. 101 00:04:54,836 --> 00:04:59,915 I made trash for the streets by filling big garbage cans filled with newspapers 102 00:05:00,007 --> 00:05:02,218 and making them wet, then spreading them around. 103 00:05:02,302 --> 00:05:04,182 I did that three or four nights in a row. 104 00:05:04,262 --> 00:05:06,351 And it was there on the Blade Runner set 105 00:05:06,430 --> 00:05:12,060 that Ed had himself a bit of a moment that would change science fiction forever. 106 00:05:13,146 --> 00:05:16,605 It was, like, four in the morning and I remember looking at that car, 107 00:05:16,690 --> 00:05:18,781 which was called a Spinner. 108 00:05:18,860 --> 00:05:22,569 And I was thinking about what I thought a robot would be in that world, 109 00:05:22,654 --> 00:05:25,824 and I suddenly had this image that came into my mind, 110 00:05:25,908 --> 00:05:29,788 of a robot standing next to that car on that street. 111 00:05:30,579 --> 00:05:34,379 And then, the title came into my mind, which has never happened before or since. 112 00:05:35,543 --> 00:05:36,543 It was RoboCop. 113 00:05:38,170 --> 00:05:40,420 Which just as quickly fused 114 00:05:40,505 --> 00:05:43,045 with another idea that Ed had been dabbling with. 115 00:05:43,134 --> 00:05:45,553 I had this notion of corporate execs killing each other, 116 00:05:45,636 --> 00:05:48,305 and that all kind of came together that night. 117 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,519 Wiping the trash from his hands, 118 00:05:52,601 --> 00:05:55,562 Ed got to work on his very first feature script. 119 00:05:55,646 --> 00:05:58,105 It was actually thought then that your first script 120 00:05:58,191 --> 00:06:01,190 shouldn't be science fiction, because they're very expensive. 121 00:06:04,822 --> 00:06:08,581 So, some might have thought that writing RoboCop first was… 122 00:06:08,658 --> 00:06:11,449 Risky business. Yes, but what wasn't was… 123 00:06:11,536 --> 00:06:12,536 Risky Business. 124 00:06:12,622 --> 00:06:13,742 As in this movie. 125 00:06:14,624 --> 00:06:17,173 Which for Ed, turns out, was more of a safe bet. 126 00:06:17,250 --> 00:06:20,341 My big breakthrough was I read a script called Risky Business. 127 00:06:20,420 --> 00:06:21,300 A party? 128 00:06:21,380 --> 00:06:24,380 I liked it so much, I wrote an 18-page report on it. 129 00:06:24,466 --> 00:06:28,547 And when the movie came out and hit, I was offered a job as an executive. 130 00:06:28,637 --> 00:06:29,677 Pretty neat. 131 00:06:29,764 --> 00:06:33,774 At just 25, this young executive had it made. 132 00:06:33,850 --> 00:06:34,730 However… 133 00:06:34,810 --> 00:06:36,441 Now, I had always wanted to write. 134 00:06:36,521 --> 00:06:38,161 And he wanted to write RoboCop. 135 00:06:38,189 --> 00:06:40,528 It was an ongoing outline for a number of years, 136 00:06:40,608 --> 00:06:43,437 and I would keep going back to it and keep going back to it. 137 00:06:43,528 --> 00:06:44,528 And then… 138 00:06:45,112 --> 00:06:48,702 And then, he realized he needed help. 139 00:06:48,783 --> 00:06:51,663 I was looking around to write it with somebody, 140 00:06:51,744 --> 00:06:53,293 but I didn't have anybody in mind. 141 00:06:53,370 --> 00:06:57,380 Abusing his executive powers for the good of RoboCop… 142 00:06:57,457 --> 00:07:00,168 You know, I was auditioning people whether they knew it or not. 143 00:07:00,252 --> 00:07:02,552 For his perfect partner in crime. 144 00:07:03,130 --> 00:07:07,891 Or in the case of Mike Miner, an almost perfect partner in crime. 145 00:07:07,968 --> 00:07:11,259 Ed and I are very different personality types. 146 00:07:11,346 --> 00:07:15,687 I am a little bit more of an experimental filmmaker. 147 00:07:15,768 --> 00:07:17,648 Maybe more than films? 148 00:07:17,728 --> 00:07:19,358 Experimented with psychedelics. 149 00:07:21,774 --> 00:07:23,653 A "leap before I look" kind of person. 150 00:07:23,733 --> 00:07:26,033 And with seemingly nothing in common, 151 00:07:26,112 --> 00:07:28,492 Ed might well have leapt the other way. 152 00:07:28,572 --> 00:07:31,742 He said, "I'm shooting a rock video about a robot." 153 00:07:34,286 --> 00:07:37,367 So I told him about RoboCop, the story. And he just immediately said… 154 00:07:38,331 --> 00:07:41,672 "My God! Let's do that. We'll write it together." I said, "Okay." 155 00:07:41,752 --> 00:07:43,461 This guy's gonna be your new partner. 156 00:07:43,545 --> 00:07:46,665 And once Ed had the help he so desperately needed… 157 00:07:46,757 --> 00:07:50,757 I said, "I'm gonna go away and I'm gonna write the first act." 158 00:07:51,471 --> 00:07:52,391 Okay. 159 00:07:52,471 --> 00:07:55,521 So, I took ten days off from my job as an executive. 160 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,519 I said that my grandfather had died and I had to go, but I told a lie. 161 00:07:59,603 --> 00:08:00,524 Funeral's tomorrow. 162 00:08:00,605 --> 00:08:04,605 And the studio sent me flowers. And I still feel bad about it today. 163 00:08:05,192 --> 00:08:07,322 And after overcoming his guilt… 164 00:08:07,403 --> 00:08:10,283 I wrote the first act, and that was as far as I got. 165 00:08:10,363 --> 00:08:14,624 And upon reading this action, sci-fi, corporate murder story… 166 00:08:14,701 --> 00:08:16,502 Na-na-na-na. Mike had a note. 167 00:08:16,579 --> 00:08:19,959 He kept saying, "Why is this funny?" And I said, "Well, it should be funny." 168 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,290 Na-na-na-na-na… 169 00:08:21,375 --> 00:08:25,375 It played to my sensibility, because I have a twisted… 170 00:08:27,255 --> 00:08:28,875 and ironic sense of humor. 171 00:08:28,966 --> 00:08:31,175 Well, give the man a hand! 172 00:08:31,259 --> 00:08:32,970 And completely embrace that tone. 173 00:08:33,678 --> 00:08:35,969 And we then went down that rabbit hole together. 174 00:08:36,057 --> 00:08:39,136 Emerging six months later with a script 175 00:08:39,226 --> 00:08:42,187 unlike anything Hollywood had ever seen before. 176 00:08:42,270 --> 00:08:45,821 The RoboCop script hit the desk of virtually every studio. 177 00:08:45,899 --> 00:08:47,149 We just gave it to anybody. 178 00:08:47,235 --> 00:08:50,105 Most of the people we brought it to enjoyed the read. 179 00:08:50,196 --> 00:08:51,735 But they all said… 180 00:08:51,822 --> 00:08:52,991 No. 181 00:08:55,909 --> 00:08:58,250 Eventually, it worked its way to Orion. 182 00:08:58,328 --> 00:09:01,328 And in case you don't know what Orion makes… 183 00:09:01,414 --> 00:09:05,495 They make movies that get a lot of recognition creatively. 184 00:09:07,004 --> 00:09:09,607 They also made this one. The Terminator. 185 00:09:09,631 --> 00:09:11,182 But not everything they made 186 00:09:11,259 --> 00:09:13,969 was a critically acclaimed box-office smash. 187 00:09:14,761 --> 00:09:17,142 Look at this one. Flesh and Blood isn't very good. 188 00:09:17,222 --> 00:09:20,432 Forget the flesh of Christ! Let's drink! 189 00:09:20,518 --> 00:09:22,138 Well, you can't win them all, 190 00:09:22,227 --> 00:09:25,307 but still, when this script that had been all over town, 191 00:09:25,398 --> 00:09:27,477 written by two unknown writers, 192 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:30,606 hit the desk of the senior vice president of Orion… 193 00:09:30,695 --> 00:09:33,524 I said, "What is it?" And he said, "It's called…" 194 00:09:33,614 --> 00:09:34,453 RoboCop. 195 00:09:34,532 --> 00:09:36,282 And I said, "You gotta be kidding." 196 00:09:37,951 --> 00:09:41,831 The "he" to whom Barbara refers was legendary producer… 197 00:09:41,913 --> 00:09:42,923 Jon Davison. 198 00:09:42,999 --> 00:09:46,668 One day, he called me and said, "I think this is kind of interesting." 199 00:09:46,751 --> 00:09:50,631 Which was encouraging. But Barbara, as you'll remember… 200 00:09:50,715 --> 00:09:51,715 "You gotta be kidding." 201 00:09:51,798 --> 00:09:53,509 …still needed to be convinced. 202 00:09:54,092 --> 00:09:56,302 And Jon's answer was, "Read it." 203 00:09:57,388 --> 00:09:59,268 And I said, "Okay." 204 00:09:59,347 --> 00:10:02,768 It was a brilliantly written script, 205 00:10:02,851 --> 00:10:05,652 and I was just completely convinced I had to make it. 206 00:10:05,730 --> 00:10:07,570 But before she could do that, 207 00:10:07,648 --> 00:10:10,988 Barbara would have to convince her boss, Mike Medavoy. 208 00:10:11,067 --> 00:10:13,898 I'd been a part of seven Academy Award movies. 209 00:10:14,488 --> 00:10:18,778 And if you look up there, you'll see eight Golden Globes. 210 00:10:21,287 --> 00:10:23,116 I don't think RoboCop is one of them. 211 00:10:23,663 --> 00:10:25,463 Spoiler alert, it isn't. 212 00:10:25,541 --> 00:10:29,551 However, clearly, Mike had a good eye for which movies to make. 213 00:10:29,629 --> 00:10:31,958 I thought the concept was really strong. 214 00:10:32,048 --> 00:10:34,378 And for a hitmaker like Mike Medavoy, 215 00:10:34,466 --> 00:10:38,386 it was looking like the stars were aligning for Orion. 216 00:10:38,471 --> 00:10:41,270 Suddenly, they were optioning it and we were signing papers. 217 00:10:41,349 --> 00:10:43,139 And RoboCop… Thank you. 218 00:10:43,225 --> 00:10:44,384 …was ready to roll. 219 00:10:44,476 --> 00:10:45,596 No. In a bit, that is. 220 00:10:45,686 --> 00:10:47,186 We need something more. 221 00:10:47,270 --> 00:10:49,191 And that something was a director. 222 00:10:49,273 --> 00:10:51,692 And that's when they started to literally go through 223 00:10:51,775 --> 00:10:53,985 the alphabetized list of all these people. 224 00:10:54,070 --> 00:10:58,279 And toward the very, very back of the Rolodex, they found… 225 00:10:58,365 --> 00:10:59,446 Paul Verhoeven. 226 00:11:00,033 --> 00:11:03,453 Dutch director Paul Verhoeven had made a name for himself 227 00:11:03,537 --> 00:11:07,537 directing film and television with European sensibilities. 228 00:11:07,625 --> 00:11:10,495 I said, "You know, this guy has got a nasty cynical side." 229 00:11:10,586 --> 00:11:13,916 "His violence is very direct and consequential." 230 00:11:14,005 --> 00:11:17,125 And he'd already recently directed a movie for Orion. 231 00:11:17,217 --> 00:11:20,008 His first for an American studio, in fact. 232 00:11:20,929 --> 00:11:22,559 Very sadly, it was this one. 233 00:11:23,807 --> 00:11:26,307 And as we know… Flesh and Blood isn't very good. 234 00:11:27,769 --> 00:11:29,309 Verhoeven lost them a lot of money. 235 00:11:29,397 --> 00:11:33,567 But keep your enemies closer or, you know, the person that the… 236 00:11:33,650 --> 00:11:36,071 the… I don't know what the right phrase is… 237 00:11:36,153 --> 00:11:37,863 Well, Barbara's got one for you. 238 00:11:37,947 --> 00:11:40,027 You gotta be kidding. You're joking. 239 00:11:40,825 --> 00:11:44,195 Flesh and Blood, it went incredibly over budget. 240 00:11:44,286 --> 00:11:45,995 I had to fly to Spain. 241 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,539 Where she delivered the first of what would be many scoldings 242 00:11:49,625 --> 00:11:50,625 for Paul Verhoeven. 243 00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:52,840 I said to him, "You have them up there, 244 00:11:52,919 --> 00:11:57,970 right at the edge of this rampart and they're not properly hooked up." 245 00:11:58,676 --> 00:12:00,505 Are you all right? I'm fine. 246 00:12:00,594 --> 00:12:02,354 They must be forcing her to say that. 247 00:12:02,429 --> 00:12:04,970 At which point, he ran up to the ramparts… 248 00:12:06,057 --> 00:12:08,727 and is waving around and screaming back at me… 249 00:12:10,354 --> 00:12:11,693 … "It's not a bit dangerous." 250 00:12:13,732 --> 00:12:17,783 While I'm below just watching him along with the entire cast. 251 00:12:17,861 --> 00:12:19,491 You bastard! 252 00:12:19,572 --> 00:12:23,162 It was a nightmare, and it didn't do any business. 253 00:12:23,241 --> 00:12:26,292 And now you're saying Paul Verhoeven? They were. 254 00:12:26,370 --> 00:12:27,620 What, are you crazy, man? 255 00:12:27,705 --> 00:12:30,225 The more they thought of it… 256 00:12:30,291 --> 00:12:32,711 …somehow, the better the idea seemed. 257 00:12:32,793 --> 00:12:38,222 I always felt at that time that Europeans do America better than Americans. 258 00:12:38,298 --> 00:12:40,928 Foreign filmmakers making films about America, 259 00:12:41,009 --> 00:12:43,509 you know, give it a little bit of a different flavor. 260 00:12:43,596 --> 00:12:44,596 Specifically… 261 00:12:44,638 --> 00:12:47,138 These people have not eaten too many cheeseburgers. 262 00:12:47,224 --> 00:12:50,274 And so, the consensus at Orion was… 263 00:12:50,351 --> 00:12:52,351 He'll be very good if he'll do it. 264 00:12:53,230 --> 00:12:54,230 Okay… 265 00:12:54,940 --> 00:12:55,820 will he do it? 266 00:12:55,899 --> 00:12:57,899 He goes, "RoboCop?" 267 00:12:57,985 --> 00:12:59,195 And then he reads a few pages, 268 00:12:59,278 --> 00:13:01,817 and the opening is all this carnage and stuff. 269 00:13:01,905 --> 00:13:04,615 He goes, "This is everything I hate about America." 270 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:06,039 And he throws it away. 271 00:13:07,035 --> 00:13:08,946 But fate had other plans. 272 00:13:09,038 --> 00:13:10,957 Now, his wife picks it up. 273 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:13,330 Reads it. He comes back and she goes, 274 00:13:13,417 --> 00:13:15,667 "Reread it, there are things here you missed." 275 00:13:15,753 --> 00:13:17,763 And he rereads it and he goes, "My God." 276 00:13:17,837 --> 00:13:20,418 "There are things I missed. There are layers here." 277 00:13:20,508 --> 00:13:21,927 In fact, RoboCop… 278 00:13:22,009 --> 00:13:24,389 Has got layers and layers… 279 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:26,009 It's like a 60-layered cake. 280 00:13:26,096 --> 00:13:29,015 But Verhoeven still wasn't quite convinced. 281 00:13:29,099 --> 00:13:30,808 So, I called him up. 282 00:13:31,309 --> 00:13:33,559 And what Barbara said to Verhoeven 283 00:13:33,645 --> 00:13:37,105 was so extraordinary, so convincing that… 284 00:13:37,191 --> 00:13:38,650 Well, we'll tell you later. 285 00:13:38,734 --> 00:13:41,823 For now, all you need to know is that Verhoeven said… 286 00:13:42,696 --> 00:13:44,775 I like it! 287 00:13:45,407 --> 00:13:47,366 That was that. Okay, that was easy. 288 00:13:47,408 --> 00:13:51,078 So, the veritable Verhoeven made his way to America, 289 00:13:51,163 --> 00:13:53,582 and RoboCop was all systems go. 290 00:13:53,665 --> 00:13:56,836 Ed and Dave were busy rewriting with the new director. 291 00:13:57,794 --> 00:14:00,544 Paul Verhoeven came in and made it all that much better. 292 00:14:00,630 --> 00:14:05,591 And we spent many days, nights, and weekends writing a second draft. 293 00:14:05,677 --> 00:14:08,427 And a third, and a fourth, etcetera. 294 00:14:08,514 --> 00:14:10,433 We tugged over every line. 295 00:14:10,515 --> 00:14:13,765 We discussed every moment in that script many, many times. 296 00:14:13,852 --> 00:14:15,982 You are gonna be a bad motherfucker. 297 00:14:16,688 --> 00:14:19,292 It was all happening. Suddenly, we were hiring people. 298 00:14:19,316 --> 00:14:20,645 Jon Davison had access 299 00:14:20,734 --> 00:14:25,874 to the most talented, low-budget, independent technicians on the planet. 300 00:14:25,947 --> 00:14:29,158 He knows how to make a dollar look like three dollars. 301 00:14:29,743 --> 00:14:31,582 I'd buy that for a dollar. 302 00:14:31,662 --> 00:14:33,251 Don't you mean… $3. 303 00:14:33,330 --> 00:14:36,289 Well, he'd definitely need to, because… 304 00:14:36,375 --> 00:14:39,205 Orion wanted us to make the movie for the cost of Terminator, 305 00:14:39,294 --> 00:14:40,705 which was seven something. 306 00:14:40,796 --> 00:14:43,336 Which was not a tremendous amount of money. 307 00:14:43,423 --> 00:14:46,974 In other words… Very cheap, and I don't think we could. 308 00:14:47,052 --> 00:14:48,892 Pretty simple math, Bob? 309 00:14:48,971 --> 00:14:52,600 And so, Orion decided, "Okay, we can spend the extra money." 310 00:14:52,682 --> 00:14:54,773 Yeah. Upping the budget to… 311 00:14:54,851 --> 00:14:57,652 Ten million, seven hundred and some-odd thousand dollars. 312 00:14:57,730 --> 00:15:00,833 Which is peanuts, really. But that's what we needed for the movie. 313 00:15:00,857 --> 00:15:03,107 Now, speaking of nuts… 314 00:15:03,192 --> 00:15:05,993 there was one task that only the bravest could face. 315 00:15:06,071 --> 00:15:10,120 A job so important that if they failed, the movie might. 316 00:15:11,201 --> 00:15:12,750 The suit. The suit? 317 00:15:12,827 --> 00:15:14,577 We mean this suit. 318 00:15:14,663 --> 00:15:18,793 The first person who took a crack at it was Chris Walas, 319 00:15:18,875 --> 00:15:21,206 who is known for The Fly and stuff like that. 320 00:15:21,294 --> 00:15:22,705 It wasn't what we wanted. 321 00:15:22,796 --> 00:15:25,505 It looked like someone threw up on a guy in a wet suit. 322 00:15:27,091 --> 00:15:30,761 And I remember Jon saying, "Okay, I gotta call Rob Bottin." 323 00:15:30,846 --> 00:15:33,515 Well, here's the thing about Rob Bottin. 324 00:15:33,599 --> 00:15:34,519 He did it. 325 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,850 As in the movie, The Thing. 326 00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:40,355 As well as The Witches of Eastwick and Innerspace. 327 00:15:40,438 --> 00:15:41,318 However… 328 00:15:41,398 --> 00:15:44,738 You know, Rob is a perfectionist, and he might not be on your timetable. 329 00:15:44,817 --> 00:15:47,172 Sounds familiar? You gotta be kidding. 330 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:50,740 Great, and so, Rob sprang into action, 331 00:15:50,823 --> 00:15:53,663 first dialing up concept artist Miles Teves. 332 00:15:53,744 --> 00:15:55,663 He said, "How are you at drawing robots?" 333 00:15:55,745 --> 00:15:57,826 And I said, "Fantastic, I love them." 334 00:15:57,914 --> 00:16:01,495 Even though I hadn't drawn a robot since I was a kid. 335 00:16:01,585 --> 00:16:03,955 And after a crash course in robotics… 336 00:16:04,046 --> 00:16:06,336 We looked at all the robots in movie history. 337 00:16:06,423 --> 00:16:08,302 …Miles was ready for direction. 338 00:16:08,384 --> 00:16:10,474 The director wanted him to be sexy, 339 00:16:10,552 --> 00:16:13,892 heroic, and also show kind of a lineage of Detroit 340 00:16:13,972 --> 00:16:16,062 from its golden days of automotive design. 341 00:16:16,140 --> 00:16:18,230 Makes sense, considering… Detroit is 342 00:16:18,309 --> 00:16:21,019 the manufacturing capital of the world at the time. 343 00:16:21,105 --> 00:16:26,644 The idea of a designed suit was like another cool car. 344 00:16:26,735 --> 00:16:30,404 So, Miles got to work. Drew for hours and hours and hours. 345 00:16:30,489 --> 00:16:32,778 And after a week, left his pile of drawings 346 00:16:32,865 --> 00:16:35,115 in the capable hands of Rob Bottin. 347 00:16:35,869 --> 00:16:38,538 But there was much more drawing to be done, 348 00:16:38,621 --> 00:16:41,131 because RoboCop has a nemesis. 349 00:16:41,207 --> 00:16:44,248 We got two robots in this. One's a man in a suit. What's the other? 350 00:16:44,336 --> 00:16:46,086 This is… 351 00:16:48,716 --> 00:16:51,426 A terrifying enforcement droid… 352 00:16:52,427 --> 00:16:53,798 dedicated to peace and… 353 00:16:56,682 --> 00:17:00,942 …urban pacification, but designing and executing… 354 00:17:02,229 --> 00:17:03,629 Probably not the right word to use. 355 00:17:03,688 --> 00:17:07,318 …ED-209 was a breeze because, unlike RoboCop… 356 00:17:07,401 --> 00:17:10,740 I said, "It shouldn't look like a man." He said, "We'll get Phil." 357 00:17:10,820 --> 00:17:12,701 That would be Phil Tippett, who, 358 00:17:12,780 --> 00:17:15,201 when it came to stop-motion animation, 359 00:17:15,284 --> 00:17:16,453 was the man. 360 00:17:16,535 --> 00:17:19,954 He had done the Walker sequence in Star Wars. 361 00:17:20,748 --> 00:17:23,958 But even this seasoned veteran of the silver screen 362 00:17:24,042 --> 00:17:27,343 had a common reaction to his first read of the script. 363 00:17:27,421 --> 00:17:29,590 I didn't quite get, um… 364 00:17:30,883 --> 00:17:32,843 it, I mean, it seemed kind of silly to me. 365 00:17:32,925 --> 00:17:36,056 Silly or not, this job was easy money for Phil. 366 00:17:36,137 --> 00:17:39,268 And a little bit harder for the guy he delegated the job to. 367 00:17:39,348 --> 00:17:41,452 "Here, you wanna do this job?" "Design a giant robot?" 368 00:17:41,477 --> 00:17:43,017 Unlike his mentor… 369 00:17:43,103 --> 00:17:45,022 I'm like, "I'm in, you know." "Okay, cool." 370 00:17:45,105 --> 00:17:47,224 Craig wouldn't think this script was silly. 371 00:17:47,273 --> 00:17:49,153 I read the script. I thought it was silly. 372 00:17:49,233 --> 00:17:51,074 But I'm in. 373 00:17:51,153 --> 00:17:53,492 And soon he was banging out drawings 374 00:17:53,572 --> 00:17:55,912 that drew on numerous inspirations. 375 00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:59,080 Kind of a combination of just bad automobile design… 376 00:17:59,827 --> 00:18:01,367 mixed with helicopters, tanks… 377 00:18:02,247 --> 00:18:03,826 even things like killer whales. 378 00:18:03,915 --> 00:18:07,455 The head of the thing is kind of like a carbon fiber killer whale head. 379 00:18:07,544 --> 00:18:09,183 Collaborating with the writers… 380 00:18:09,253 --> 00:18:12,634 I had a Japanese model, and it was called a Glaug trooper. 381 00:18:12,715 --> 00:18:14,715 I said, "Well, this is what I was thinking for ED." 382 00:18:14,759 --> 00:18:15,759 The director… 383 00:18:15,803 --> 00:18:18,932 "What is this? Certainly this looks like... It's like some stupid plant." 384 00:18:19,013 --> 00:18:21,233 As well as Rob Bottin and his crew. 385 00:18:21,307 --> 00:18:23,188 We never talked. Or not. 386 00:18:23,268 --> 00:18:24,768 He's doing that. We're doing this. 387 00:18:24,853 --> 00:18:26,363 All for the one thing: 388 00:18:26,438 --> 00:18:28,978 a movie with a shoot date fast approaching. 389 00:18:29,066 --> 00:18:32,776 You know, Rob is a perfectionist, and he might not be on your timetable. 390 00:18:32,861 --> 00:18:34,820 He wasn't. 391 00:18:34,904 --> 00:18:37,025 Rob Bottin said he needed six months 392 00:18:37,115 --> 00:18:41,115 from the time we cast the lead until he could have the suits ready. 393 00:18:41,869 --> 00:18:46,000 So, we hadn't cast the lead at that point. 394 00:18:46,083 --> 00:18:48,792 Well, the time had come to find out… 395 00:18:48,876 --> 00:18:50,916 Who's going to star in RoboCop. 396 00:18:51,421 --> 00:18:53,260 The very first person 397 00:18:53,339 --> 00:18:58,140 that Paul Verhoeven wanted to portray RoboCop was Michael Ironside. 398 00:18:58,220 --> 00:19:01,180 He goes, "Okay, first thing we have to do is rewrite the script." 399 00:19:01,265 --> 00:19:03,555 "And I want RoboCop to have a harem." 400 00:19:03,642 --> 00:19:07,402 Let the professionals do their job. They said, "See you later, Michael." 401 00:19:08,188 --> 00:19:09,728 And hello to… 402 00:19:09,815 --> 00:19:12,654 Arnold Schwarzenegger. Schwarzenegger wanted to be RoboCop. 403 00:19:13,192 --> 00:19:16,992 He and Mike Medavoy had become close friends at Orion Pictures 404 00:19:17,071 --> 00:19:19,321 because The Terminator was an Orion picture. 405 00:19:21,910 --> 00:19:23,789 So, Arnie said to Mike… 406 00:19:23,871 --> 00:19:25,211 I'll be back. 407 00:19:25,288 --> 00:19:26,999 And then they started to design 408 00:19:27,082 --> 00:19:30,342 with Rob Bottin the RoboCop suit to make it fit Arnold. 409 00:19:30,419 --> 00:19:31,669 Your clothes. 410 00:19:32,837 --> 00:19:33,667 Give them to me. 411 00:19:33,755 --> 00:19:36,295 But it turned out looking like the Michelin Man. 412 00:19:36,383 --> 00:19:37,432 But it's true. 413 00:19:37,509 --> 00:19:38,838 It was just too exaggerated. 414 00:19:38,926 --> 00:19:39,846 It was too big. 415 00:19:39,927 --> 00:19:42,887 If you're gonna have something this large, there's no drama. 416 00:19:44,307 --> 00:19:45,927 This thing is indestructible. 417 00:19:47,059 --> 00:19:49,519 It's unstoppable. I thought, "Nah, this is not gonna work." 418 00:19:49,605 --> 00:19:50,724 Get out. 419 00:19:50,814 --> 00:19:52,773 But one of the most interesting was Peter... 420 00:19:52,857 --> 00:19:55,188 The one and only, Peter We... Fonda. 421 00:19:55,903 --> 00:19:57,492 Peter Fonda. 422 00:19:57,570 --> 00:20:01,201 Peter Fonda actually walked into the production office, unannounced, 423 00:20:01,282 --> 00:20:05,873 and said to the casting people, "Here I am. You've found your RoboCop." 424 00:20:05,953 --> 00:20:07,624 They really hadn't. 425 00:20:07,705 --> 00:20:11,375 But they were able to find, at least what it was they needed to find. 426 00:20:11,460 --> 00:20:13,670 A directive, you might even call it. 427 00:20:13,753 --> 00:20:16,423 What are your prime directives? One, he had to be skinny. 428 00:20:16,506 --> 00:20:20,336 The second thing was, they have to be incredibly physically fit. 429 00:20:20,426 --> 00:20:23,967 Three, he's gotta have great chin and great lips. 430 00:20:24,056 --> 00:20:26,226 This holy trinity 431 00:20:26,307 --> 00:20:30,688 of skinniness, strength, and supple lip beauty, 432 00:20:30,770 --> 00:20:32,270 led them to conclude… 433 00:20:32,355 --> 00:20:36,026 We should cast for a long, long time, and just see everybody. 434 00:20:36,108 --> 00:20:38,778 Hoping RoboCop would walk in that door. 435 00:20:38,862 --> 00:20:41,241 In the meantime, plenty of other people did. 436 00:20:41,323 --> 00:20:43,242 Miguel Ferrer walked in, the room cracked. 437 00:20:43,325 --> 00:20:46,115 And I remember Jon Davison looking at me going… 438 00:20:46,202 --> 00:20:47,623 And that was it, that was Morton. 439 00:20:47,703 --> 00:20:49,834 Hell of a guy, really, wouldn't you say? 440 00:20:49,914 --> 00:20:52,285 The same thing happened with Kurtwood Smith. 441 00:20:52,375 --> 00:20:54,496 You probably don't think I'm a very nice guy. 442 00:20:54,586 --> 00:20:57,455 Well, that's the thing, most probably would. 443 00:20:57,547 --> 00:21:00,626 Clarence Boddicker was just great. He didn't seem like a bad guy. 444 00:21:00,717 --> 00:21:01,967 Which was by design. 445 00:21:02,051 --> 00:21:05,811 I always had him as wearing glasses. I wanted him to be considered smart. 446 00:21:05,888 --> 00:21:09,019 I based him on the terrorist, Carlos the Jackal, 447 00:21:09,101 --> 00:21:13,020 who was known to throw a hand grenade into a crowded marketplace. 448 00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:16,275 But this would-be-killer hadn't quite blown up yet. 449 00:21:16,357 --> 00:21:18,988 I was still kind of a struggling actor. 450 00:21:19,068 --> 00:21:23,449 So, I get the script sent to me for RoboCop and I went, "" 451 00:21:24,532 --> 00:21:27,702 And I went, "Well. Maybe it'll be fun." 452 00:21:27,786 --> 00:21:29,326 But like those before him… 453 00:21:29,413 --> 00:21:30,292 There are layers. 454 00:21:30,372 --> 00:21:31,872 …Kurtwood had skipped dessert. 455 00:21:31,957 --> 00:21:33,576 It's like a 60-layered cake. 456 00:21:33,666 --> 00:21:35,376 That once he bit into… 457 00:21:36,336 --> 00:21:39,336 Then, all of a sudden for me, it went from, "" 458 00:21:39,423 --> 00:21:41,633 to playing this villain, 459 00:21:41,717 --> 00:21:45,257 who I was determined to have a lot of fun with. 460 00:21:45,345 --> 00:21:46,555 Bitches, leave. 461 00:21:47,763 --> 00:21:49,854 And then… Murphy, meet Lewis. 462 00:21:49,932 --> 00:21:51,272 …there was RoboCop's partner. 463 00:21:51,351 --> 00:21:54,770 Lewis was always meant to be just a partner and not a love interest, 464 00:21:54,855 --> 00:21:56,974 and that was important to me at the very beginning. 465 00:21:57,065 --> 00:21:58,394 And in the beginning… 466 00:21:58,482 --> 00:22:02,113 Stephanie Zimbalist was the first person to be cast as Lewis. 467 00:22:02,194 --> 00:22:05,865 Known for her hard-nosed detecting on TV's Remington Steele, 468 00:22:05,949 --> 00:22:10,328 Zimbalist was the very example of a strong, equal, female counterpart. 469 00:22:10,412 --> 00:22:11,582 And then she couldn't do it. 470 00:22:11,663 --> 00:22:14,583 There's only so much room in one's schedule for counterparty. 471 00:22:14,665 --> 00:22:17,246 Anyway, I'm glad it worked out for me. 472 00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:19,455 This lucky lady is Nancy Allen, 473 00:22:19,546 --> 00:22:21,296 who, when it came to playing… 474 00:22:21,381 --> 00:22:23,931 A gender-neutral female character. 475 00:22:24,718 --> 00:22:25,758 I like to turn men on. 476 00:22:25,844 --> 00:22:28,854 Probably isn't the first person you'd think of, but… 477 00:22:28,930 --> 00:22:29,849 I'm an actress. 478 00:22:29,931 --> 00:22:32,851 An actress who was more than prepared to play this part. 479 00:22:32,933 --> 00:22:36,023 My dad was a cop for almost 30 years in New York. 480 00:22:36,104 --> 00:22:37,693 And I thought, "I know this character." 481 00:22:37,772 --> 00:22:39,442 She was just right, and she got it. 482 00:22:39,523 --> 00:22:41,574 But in order to slip into character… 483 00:22:41,651 --> 00:22:42,780 She's pretty tough. 484 00:22:42,861 --> 00:22:45,361 …Nancy was going to have to slip into something else. 485 00:22:45,447 --> 00:22:47,947 When I was talking to my friend about this character, 486 00:22:48,032 --> 00:22:50,163 she said to me, "You know, you're really feminine." 487 00:22:51,161 --> 00:22:53,830 "What if you wore men's underpants under your costume?" 488 00:22:53,913 --> 00:22:55,834 Now why would you want to do a thing like that? 489 00:22:55,915 --> 00:23:00,296 Because it kind of affects how you feel, so I tried that. 490 00:23:01,962 --> 00:23:03,803 Gotta jock it up a little bit here. 491 00:23:03,882 --> 00:23:06,551 And as Nancy got in touch with her masculine side, 492 00:23:06,634 --> 00:23:10,005 the film was about to get in touch with its RoboCop. 493 00:23:10,096 --> 00:23:13,057 Because after a long seven-month search… 494 00:23:13,141 --> 00:23:14,020 Peter came in. 495 00:23:14,101 --> 00:23:15,891 What, again? Here I am. 496 00:23:15,977 --> 00:23:17,616 Not Peter Fonda. Peter Weller. 497 00:23:17,686 --> 00:23:20,606 Now the reason they went with Peter is, they made Buckaroo Banzai. 498 00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:24,819 Raking in a profit of... It didn't actually make a profit at all. 499 00:23:24,903 --> 00:23:26,573 But it was big in Japan, so… 500 00:23:26,654 --> 00:23:28,154 The studio was interested in him. 501 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,660 And Weller was interested 502 00:23:29,740 --> 00:23:33,621 in auditioning for RoboCop in his own special Weller way. 503 00:23:33,702 --> 00:23:36,083 He didn't wanna read on tape. 504 00:23:37,665 --> 00:23:40,536 So, Paul and I went out to lunch with him, 505 00:23:40,626 --> 00:23:43,257 and then Paul had him read with me. 506 00:23:43,337 --> 00:23:46,577 But I remember I was really nervous. Don't worry. You got the part. 507 00:23:46,633 --> 00:23:48,893 And so, obviously, did Peter Weller… 508 00:23:48,969 --> 00:23:50,388 Get your armor and suit up. 509 00:23:50,470 --> 00:23:52,759 …because he fit those directives to perfection. 510 00:23:52,847 --> 00:23:56,057 Peter Weller was a marathon runner. So, you've got two right there. 511 00:23:56,143 --> 00:23:58,563 Go on. What about the most important one? 512 00:23:58,644 --> 00:24:01,765 If you look at Peter, Peter has a Cupid bow, he's got wonderful lips. 513 00:24:01,856 --> 00:24:04,527 Three out of three. It's you. 514 00:24:04,608 --> 00:24:07,068 And while Peter Weller was the total package… 515 00:24:07,153 --> 00:24:08,034 Pretty neat. 516 00:24:08,113 --> 00:24:10,823 …he was also part of a package deal. 517 00:24:10,906 --> 00:24:17,037 He had been schooled by a mime expert in the New York theater scene. Moni Yakim. 518 00:24:17,122 --> 00:24:20,882 He had asked for us to hire this guy as a movement coach. 519 00:24:20,959 --> 00:24:25,838 He worked on certain moves that allowed Peter to look more robotic. 520 00:24:25,922 --> 00:24:28,011 Which would prove quite useful. 521 00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:30,300 Just as soon as there was a suit for him to wear, 522 00:24:30,384 --> 00:24:33,845 which would only take about six months to create. 523 00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:37,680 Assuming that is, that all those designs were squared away. 524 00:24:38,226 --> 00:24:41,266 And Rob said, "This isn't working. The director doesn't like it." 525 00:24:41,354 --> 00:24:42,564 He had become very bulky. 526 00:24:42,646 --> 00:24:45,067 He sort of had this huge, sort of cylinder for a chest 527 00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:48,650 and a helmet that looked kind of like a stylized Greco-Roman helmet. 528 00:24:48,737 --> 00:24:51,197 So, after six months of hard work… 529 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,201 We're at that stage of 530 00:24:53,282 --> 00:24:55,452 completely reconstructing from the ground up. 531 00:24:55,535 --> 00:24:57,325 You can't say you weren't warned. 532 00:24:57,412 --> 00:24:59,041 He might not be on your timetable. 533 00:24:59,122 --> 00:25:03,132 And he wasn't. So, Miles did what he does best. 534 00:25:03,210 --> 00:25:05,589 Just drew for hours and hours and hours. 535 00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:09,720 Except this time, he was in… In super hyper-crunch mode. 536 00:25:09,798 --> 00:25:12,429 But Miles would really have to get the lead out, 537 00:25:12,510 --> 00:25:15,221 as production was quickly gearing up to load up 538 00:25:15,305 --> 00:25:20,684 and move out to the film's setting, Detroit, Michigan, kind of. 539 00:25:20,769 --> 00:25:23,498 We didn't end up shooting there. There was a good reason. 540 00:25:23,521 --> 00:25:24,811 I mean, the question was budget. 541 00:25:24,897 --> 00:25:27,938 And we went to Dallas, because we got a good deal there. 542 00:25:28,026 --> 00:25:30,276 I gotta hand it to you, you sure can pick 'em. 543 00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:32,662 Besides, it wasn't just about the bottom line. 544 00:25:32,739 --> 00:25:35,118 Dallas had some particular things when we scouted it 545 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,200 that really worked for our script. 546 00:25:37,285 --> 00:25:39,285 A script set in the future. 547 00:25:39,371 --> 00:25:41,411 Dallas was perfect for us because at that time, 548 00:25:41,498 --> 00:25:43,327 it had this period of growth 549 00:25:43,415 --> 00:25:45,496 where they had a lot of interesting modern buildings. 550 00:25:45,585 --> 00:25:47,954 So, with a location and a cast, 551 00:25:48,046 --> 00:25:51,925 there really was just the one thing that they were waiting on. 552 00:25:52,008 --> 00:25:53,837 What happened was, I brought in a book… 553 00:25:53,926 --> 00:25:55,297 Not just any book. 554 00:25:55,386 --> 00:25:58,557 This exact, super sexy Japanese robot book. 555 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,599 …from the Japanese illustrator, Sorayama, 556 00:26:00,683 --> 00:26:04,193 and he was known for drawing these sexy chrome robots. 557 00:26:04,270 --> 00:26:08,191 And what did Rob Bottin make of these sensual synthoids? 558 00:26:08,275 --> 00:26:10,644 I remember he picked the book up and said, "This is it." 559 00:26:11,278 --> 00:26:15,117 "If we can take this aesthetic and graft it onto Peter Weller, 560 00:26:15,198 --> 00:26:16,367 we can make this work." 561 00:26:16,449 --> 00:26:18,078 It looked immediately right. 562 00:26:18,159 --> 00:26:20,949 And it just was like, "Wow, that's fantastic." 563 00:26:22,580 --> 00:26:26,000 Then Peter went in and they molded his body and his head… 564 00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:29,750 so that the whole suit fit him well. 565 00:26:29,837 --> 00:26:33,298 But this last-minute scramble to redesign the suit 566 00:26:33,383 --> 00:26:35,552 put Rob and his team behind. 567 00:26:35,634 --> 00:26:38,964 And when shooting started in early August, 1986… 568 00:26:39,055 --> 00:26:40,384 They didn't have a suit. 569 00:26:40,472 --> 00:26:42,643 I thought we agreed on total body prosthesis. 570 00:26:42,726 --> 00:26:45,766 And so that just immediately set them back. 571 00:26:45,854 --> 00:26:49,614 And so, they had to start, because they had a very short production window. 572 00:26:49,691 --> 00:26:52,070 So suddenly the schedule got flopped around. 573 00:26:52,152 --> 00:26:55,951 Scrambling to find anything that didn't involve the star. 574 00:26:56,030 --> 00:26:57,820 There ain't a lot to shoot without Weller. 575 00:26:57,906 --> 00:27:00,406 There's a bit. The very first shot 576 00:27:00,492 --> 00:27:05,623 was the confrontation between Dick Jones and Bob Morton in the executive washroom. 577 00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:07,957 Fucked with the wrong guy. 578 00:27:08,042 --> 00:27:09,712 You're out of your fucking mind. 579 00:27:09,794 --> 00:27:11,763 Well, that's one shot in the can. 580 00:27:11,837 --> 00:27:13,968 There must be more they could do. 581 00:27:14,048 --> 00:27:17,719 After all, time was money and... There's an idea. 582 00:27:17,801 --> 00:27:21,432 "I'll buy that for a dollar." I'd buy that for a dollar. 583 00:27:23,182 --> 00:27:25,103 That was the first two days of shooting. 584 00:27:25,184 --> 00:27:27,184 They shot vignettes for the television. 585 00:27:27,269 --> 00:27:30,359 And the inspiration for this fictional knee-slapper? 586 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,569 Is a direct spoof of Benny Hill, 587 00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:37,240 the English comedian who would grin impishly to the audience. 588 00:27:37,322 --> 00:27:40,531 Did you see that? The show was called It's Not My Problem! 589 00:27:40,616 --> 00:27:43,866 Which, in itself, was a subtle nod to Paul Verhoeven. 590 00:27:43,952 --> 00:27:47,173 If we would come to him with, like something wasn't working 591 00:27:47,248 --> 00:27:49,667 or we had a problem, and he often would say, 592 00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:51,750 "Well, certainly, that's not my problem." 593 00:27:51,836 --> 00:27:53,506 "Well, that's your problem, not mine." 594 00:27:53,587 --> 00:27:57,218 But it was increasingly becoming Paul Verhoeven's problem, 595 00:27:57,299 --> 00:27:59,890 because after all the dollars were spent 596 00:27:59,969 --> 00:28:03,179 shooting all of the scenes that didn't require a robo-suit… 597 00:28:03,263 --> 00:28:05,233 We ran out of stuff. 598 00:28:07,727 --> 00:28:11,727 We sat around just like, "My God!" 599 00:28:12,231 --> 00:28:14,152 Stewing in the Dallas heat. 600 00:28:14,233 --> 00:28:15,903 It was a billion degrees there. 601 00:28:15,984 --> 00:28:18,194 Just sweating our balls off. 602 00:28:18,278 --> 00:28:22,159 An idle cast and crew were left to pass the time 603 00:28:22,241 --> 00:28:24,951 watching Peter work on his body movements. 604 00:28:25,036 --> 00:28:26,955 There in an empty parking lot 605 00:28:27,038 --> 00:28:30,667 in 95-degree Texas heat 606 00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:35,339 was Peter and this mime marching around the parking lot. 607 00:28:35,422 --> 00:28:38,261 And we thought, "It's gonna look like that?" 608 00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:40,721 Well, they were about to find out, 609 00:28:40,801 --> 00:28:42,301 because after two weeks… 610 00:28:42,386 --> 00:28:43,636 It comes finally. 611 00:28:43,721 --> 00:28:46,432 And finally, the crew could spring into action. 612 00:28:46,516 --> 00:28:49,135 And Peter, he sprang into the new suit. 613 00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:51,896 Ready to make up for all that lost time. 614 00:28:51,980 --> 00:28:54,230 We all got there in the morning and… 615 00:28:57,317 --> 00:28:59,067 I would say it was at least eight hours. 616 00:28:59,153 --> 00:29:00,534 It took him ten hours. 617 00:29:00,613 --> 00:29:02,323 Twelve hours. 618 00:29:02,406 --> 00:29:06,326 The first time, I think it took 14 or 15 hours to get him in the suit. 619 00:29:06,411 --> 00:29:08,371 And they lose the entire day. 620 00:29:08,454 --> 00:29:11,535 And what went through my mind was either we're going to be here 621 00:29:11,624 --> 00:29:13,423 for the next six months… 622 00:29:14,461 --> 00:29:16,171 or they're shutting us down tomorrow. 623 00:29:18,006 --> 00:29:19,336 Now, meanwhile, Paul Verhoeven, 624 00:29:19,423 --> 00:29:22,644 who has got a lot riding on his shoulders for the show, 625 00:29:22,719 --> 00:29:24,298 is going completely crazy. 626 00:29:24,386 --> 00:29:27,267 But while Verhoeven was fretting lost time, 627 00:29:27,347 --> 00:29:31,228 Weller was about to find himself plunged into his own crisis. 628 00:29:31,310 --> 00:29:35,820 After spending four months of rehearsing with Moni Yakim, 629 00:29:35,898 --> 00:29:37,528 once he gets into the suit… 630 00:29:39,152 --> 00:29:42,162 The director just didn't like it. It wasn't a sort of robotic movement 631 00:29:42,238 --> 00:29:44,617 that we ended up with in the film. It was a different thing. 632 00:29:44,699 --> 00:29:47,739 He did have this weird thing he did. 633 00:29:47,826 --> 00:29:49,037 Robo, come on in. 634 00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:51,619 He was trying to look like a ballet dancer, 635 00:29:51,705 --> 00:29:54,536 and that just simply didn't fit into the concept. 636 00:29:55,125 --> 00:29:57,685 I imagine I might've been thrown into a panic by that, 637 00:29:57,711 --> 00:29:59,711 because nothing I've thought about works. 638 00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:02,548 I can't do this, I can't do that. I can't even take a piss. 639 00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:06,263 Can't use any of this stuff, and so he's furious. 640 00:30:06,346 --> 00:30:08,806 And as for the hot and sweaty crew… 641 00:30:08,890 --> 00:30:12,019 It was just like, "Please, we just all sat here for ten hours waiting." 642 00:30:12,101 --> 00:30:13,191 "Just get on the damn set." 643 00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:16,108 Awkwardly stumbling forward with the shoot. 644 00:30:16,189 --> 00:30:19,979 So, we don't have him kick open doors and flop in like Lloyd Bridges from Sea Hunt. 645 00:30:20,943 --> 00:30:24,324 Verhoeven directed it so that RoboCop would be revealed in layers. 646 00:30:24,404 --> 00:30:26,065 Layers and layers and layers… 647 00:30:26,156 --> 00:30:26,987 Layer one. 648 00:30:27,075 --> 00:30:29,194 A plastic covering comes off the POV. 649 00:30:29,285 --> 00:30:30,115 Layer two. 650 00:30:30,202 --> 00:30:33,413 We see the POV walk by a video monitor, 651 00:30:33,498 --> 00:30:35,627 and that's the first time you see the suit. 652 00:30:35,708 --> 00:30:39,127 Layer three. RoboCop is walking behind frosted glass, 653 00:30:39,211 --> 00:30:41,731 and then eventually emerges. And the final layer… 654 00:30:41,798 --> 00:30:45,298 He's behind this wire mesh holding cell. 655 00:30:45,384 --> 00:30:47,845 But their suit problems couldn't be disguised 656 00:30:47,929 --> 00:30:49,759 by clever direction for long. 657 00:30:49,847 --> 00:30:50,887 In the meantime, 658 00:30:50,973 --> 00:30:53,733 at least other people were hitting their stride. 659 00:30:53,809 --> 00:30:55,140 I really liked driving the car. 660 00:30:55,228 --> 00:30:57,688 I'd better drive until you know your way around. 661 00:30:57,771 --> 00:30:59,402 Paul liked it when I drove the car. 662 00:30:59,481 --> 00:31:01,571 He thought I was more reckless than the stunt driver. 663 00:31:01,651 --> 00:31:02,941 Hit it! 664 00:31:03,027 --> 00:31:05,567 I don't know what came over me when I got behind that wheel. 665 00:31:05,654 --> 00:31:08,365 It was clearly the same determination and drive 666 00:31:08,449 --> 00:31:09,909 that came over Kurtwood Smith. 667 00:31:09,992 --> 00:31:12,752 The first day that I shot 668 00:31:12,828 --> 00:31:15,459 was when RoboCop dragged me into the police station, 669 00:31:15,539 --> 00:31:18,210 threw me up against the counter and said… Book him. 670 00:31:18,292 --> 00:31:20,752 The first thing I did was go to Paul and say, "Paul, 671 00:31:20,836 --> 00:31:23,166 how about if I spit blood on the desk?" 672 00:31:23,256 --> 00:31:27,715 And Paul was like, "Yes, let's try that." 673 00:31:28,510 --> 00:31:30,931 Boom! That was it for me and Paul. 674 00:31:31,013 --> 00:31:33,854 From then on, we were on the same channel for the rest of the movie. 675 00:31:33,932 --> 00:31:37,732 But for Peter and Paul, they were fighting over the remote. 676 00:31:38,688 --> 00:31:40,647 There was already quite a bit of, 677 00:31:40,981 --> 00:31:45,612 shall we say, resentment brewing over the director-actor relationship. 678 00:31:45,694 --> 00:31:48,154 And thus ensued a dance of sorts. 679 00:31:48,239 --> 00:31:51,659 So if all of a sudden, you're doing these balletic samurai moves, 680 00:31:51,742 --> 00:31:53,702 which is what Peter wanted to do… 681 00:31:54,202 --> 00:31:56,542 it just didn't jar with the conception. 682 00:31:56,623 --> 00:32:00,173 Or Verhoeven. Paul is a perfectionist. 683 00:32:00,250 --> 00:32:06,381 He wants a look. He wants a performance. He wants a mood. He wants… 684 00:32:06,465 --> 00:32:10,385 …Peter Weller to understand one simple prime directive. 685 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:13,640 You are playing a machine that doesn't know it's a man. 686 00:32:13,722 --> 00:32:16,682 Not a man that thinks he's a shiny metal ballerina. 687 00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:18,897 I think that caused a crisis in the actor, 688 00:32:18,978 --> 00:32:21,647 and it made him very insecure about the movie. 689 00:32:21,730 --> 00:32:24,361 So he started to kind of fight back in other ways. 690 00:32:25,652 --> 00:32:29,362 And ironically… It all came down to his prime directives. 691 00:32:29,446 --> 00:32:33,527 Serve the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law. 692 00:32:33,617 --> 00:32:36,680 He didn't want to say them, he wanted to come up with his own versions of them. 693 00:32:36,703 --> 00:32:40,463 And they went from these one-line things to these baroque amendments. 694 00:32:40,540 --> 00:32:43,840 They were like, "Four score and seven years ago, 695 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,509 when I became a cyborg…" Blah, blah, blah. 696 00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:49,877 And Peter just kept resisting. 697 00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:52,798 Which, under these circumstances, really didn't go down well. 698 00:32:52,886 --> 00:32:55,176 We don't have the time to rewrite the movie. 699 00:32:55,263 --> 00:32:56,604 We gotta shoot it right now. 700 00:32:56,682 --> 00:33:00,313 With the situation quickly spiraling out of control… 701 00:33:00,394 --> 00:33:03,305 Medavoy called Weller's agent and said… Jesus, you really screwed up. 702 00:33:03,397 --> 00:33:06,147 No… What he said was much worse. 703 00:33:06,733 --> 00:33:10,284 "I will fire your guy and eat several million dollars…" 704 00:33:10,363 --> 00:33:11,363 You're our product. 705 00:33:11,446 --> 00:33:14,826 "…if he doesn't get in line and say the prime directives as written." 706 00:33:14,909 --> 00:33:17,670 To which Peter replied… "I'm not gonna say your lines." 707 00:33:18,578 --> 00:33:20,209 The production said, "Okay." 708 00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:21,829 "You can leave." 709 00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:25,711 And they started really looking for other people. 710 00:33:25,795 --> 00:33:28,454 And that was a big crisis for this production. 711 00:33:28,548 --> 00:33:31,508 But a big opportunity for somebody else. 712 00:33:31,592 --> 00:33:33,511 "Here, I am, you've found your RoboCop." 713 00:33:33,594 --> 00:33:35,723 I'm Peter Fonda. Not Peter Fonda. No! 714 00:33:35,805 --> 00:33:38,515 This man. Stunt coordinator, Gary Combs. 715 00:33:38,598 --> 00:33:41,308 I'm the stunt guy, I'm not an actor. 716 00:33:41,394 --> 00:33:42,854 Not yet, at least. 717 00:33:42,936 --> 00:33:45,977 One night, this producer of this show, he called me. He said, 718 00:33:46,065 --> 00:33:48,434 "How are you with dialogue?" I said, "What do you mean?" 719 00:33:48,526 --> 00:33:50,066 I'm talking to you. What do you say? 720 00:33:50,153 --> 00:33:51,613 "You're gonna be RoboCop." 721 00:33:51,695 --> 00:33:52,986 And so, he was. 722 00:33:53,072 --> 00:33:55,991 At least just while they figured out what to do with Peter, 723 00:33:56,075 --> 00:33:58,035 who Gary was nothing like. 724 00:33:58,118 --> 00:34:01,249 There was never a complaint. He did everything he was supposed to do. 725 00:34:01,329 --> 00:34:03,789 All the stuff that they were doing were just reactions. 726 00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:06,035 I was in the suit, so you couldn't tell the difference. 727 00:34:06,126 --> 00:34:08,126 But Peter Weller could. 728 00:34:10,047 --> 00:34:13,797 I think that jostled him a little bit like, "" 729 00:34:14,342 --> 00:34:16,143 "Maybe I shouldn't be such a…" 730 00:34:17,096 --> 00:34:18,175 Okay, okay. 731 00:34:18,681 --> 00:34:23,141 There was a big "come to Jesus" moment, if you will, between Peter and Paul. 732 00:34:23,226 --> 00:34:24,726 Paul basically said, 733 00:34:24,811 --> 00:34:27,271 "Look, we're both upset. Let's move on from this." 734 00:34:27,356 --> 00:34:29,476 "Shake my hand and there'll be no more problems." 735 00:34:29,567 --> 00:34:32,697 And Peter Weller stared at the hand and shook it. 736 00:34:32,778 --> 00:34:36,119 And from that moment on, well, we'll see. 737 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,278 Skip forward a couple of weeks in production, 738 00:34:38,367 --> 00:34:41,907 and things were moving along at a decidedly quicker clip, 739 00:34:41,996 --> 00:34:43,706 with no small thanks owed to… 740 00:34:43,789 --> 00:34:45,789 …Paul Verhoeven. 741 00:34:45,875 --> 00:34:48,414 There's a certain energy on the set. There's like this machine… 742 00:34:48,503 --> 00:34:50,422 Action! It's constantly moving. 743 00:34:51,755 --> 00:34:54,675 Go! And Paul was the engine. 744 00:34:54,759 --> 00:34:56,259 He was the driving force. 745 00:34:56,844 --> 00:34:59,313 Which is a very polite way of saying… 746 00:34:59,387 --> 00:35:01,518 He hated waiting for things. 747 00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:04,728 Okay. Next shot. Thank you very much. Thank you. 748 00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:07,400 You know, putting mics on people and all of that, 749 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,400 he doesn't wanna be bothered with that. 750 00:35:09,481 --> 00:35:11,481 And about those mics… 751 00:35:11,567 --> 00:35:14,067 The sound people said, "We can't get it, we have to wire them." 752 00:35:14,152 --> 00:35:17,242 And Paul lost his shit. 753 00:35:18,490 --> 00:35:21,791 "They're conspiring! They're conspiring to ruin my movie." 754 00:35:23,036 --> 00:35:24,867 Peter said to me, "Did you see Paul?" 755 00:35:24,956 --> 00:35:28,416 Paul was literally sitting on the ground 756 00:35:28,501 --> 00:35:31,050 with his legs crossed, his head in his hand, 757 00:35:31,128 --> 00:35:32,608 because he had to wait for something. 758 00:35:32,672 --> 00:35:35,472 If Paul thought the entire crew was conspiring 759 00:35:35,550 --> 00:35:39,260 to make just his life miserable, well, he was wrong. 760 00:35:39,344 --> 00:35:42,005 Everyone had a horrible time on RoboCop. 761 00:35:42,097 --> 00:35:44,097 No, we didn't have a good time. 762 00:35:44,182 --> 00:35:47,652 And the reason why? "You trying to fuck my movie?" 763 00:35:47,728 --> 00:35:50,307 Well, we can only speculate as to that. 764 00:35:50,398 --> 00:35:54,688 But there was no doubting why Peter Weller wasn't having a good time, 765 00:35:54,777 --> 00:35:56,447 putting that suit on every day. 766 00:35:56,528 --> 00:35:57,949 It ain't easy, pal. 767 00:35:58,030 --> 00:36:01,909 It was painful. He was getting blisters. Parts were rubbing him wrong. 768 00:36:02,492 --> 00:36:03,492 I can feel them. 769 00:36:03,536 --> 00:36:07,246 Which in turn led him to rub crew members wrong. 770 00:36:07,331 --> 00:36:08,541 Like poor Gregor here, 771 00:36:08,623 --> 00:36:11,384 who helped squeeze Peter into that suit every day. 772 00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:13,630 I'm having a bit of difficulty getting in, 773 00:36:13,713 --> 00:36:17,052 you know, something screwed in on his ankle and he's like, 774 00:36:17,132 --> 00:36:19,472 "Can you get somebody else over here to do this?" 775 00:36:19,552 --> 00:36:22,722 And I looked at him, I go, "Hey, Peter. Fuck off." 776 00:36:22,804 --> 00:36:24,715 And he looked at me, he goes, "I like you." 777 00:36:24,806 --> 00:36:26,927 And we were good from that point on. 778 00:36:27,684 --> 00:36:29,804 And while he didn't want to be in the suit, 779 00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:32,896 Peter did, however, want to remain in character. 780 00:36:32,981 --> 00:36:33,902 Do you have a name? 781 00:36:33,983 --> 00:36:37,282 I had been told, Peter only wanted to be called "Robo." 782 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,400 Just Robo? 783 00:36:38,487 --> 00:36:39,487 Go, Robo! 784 00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:42,780 And I thought, "Well. I'm just not gonna talk to the guy." 785 00:36:42,867 --> 00:36:45,237 Rob Bottin refused to call him Robo. 786 00:36:45,327 --> 00:36:49,367 So he would, you know, just aggressively, like, "Hey, how's it going, Peter?" 787 00:36:49,456 --> 00:36:51,536 "That's Robo." "Yeah right, Peter." 788 00:36:51,626 --> 00:36:55,456 And while on-set tensions threatened to flare up at any moment… 789 00:36:56,547 --> 00:36:59,797 it was an altogether different type of explosion… 790 00:36:59,884 --> 00:37:02,353 "Bigger. Bigger. I need bigger! I need bigger!" 791 00:37:02,427 --> 00:37:06,057 …that would mark the end of the production's time in Dallas. 792 00:37:06,556 --> 00:37:09,556 The gas station scene, I think, was one of those scenes where 793 00:37:09,643 --> 00:37:12,313 the effects crew had heard enough from Paul about how much 794 00:37:12,396 --> 00:37:15,936 he wanted "bigger, bigger, bigger," in terms of the effects and explosions. 795 00:37:16,025 --> 00:37:19,565 When I overheard one of the guys saying, "He wants big? We'll give him big." 796 00:37:22,739 --> 00:37:24,699 The gas station explosion 797 00:37:25,534 --> 00:37:29,463 was far too big to have happened in a downtown area. 798 00:37:29,538 --> 00:37:32,827 It broke windows for, you know, a couple of blocks away. 799 00:37:32,916 --> 00:37:36,746 I imagine it set off a lot of motion alarms in the area. 800 00:37:36,836 --> 00:37:40,626 It also genuinely set into motion law changes in Texas. 801 00:37:40,715 --> 00:37:45,175 And with that, the RoboCop crew had definitely outstayed their welcome, 802 00:37:45,262 --> 00:37:46,972 and headed to their next location. 803 00:37:47,056 --> 00:37:48,766 Where did he go? Pittsburgh. 804 00:37:48,849 --> 00:37:50,478 Yeah, we went to Pennsylvania. 805 00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:54,768 At a shuttered steel mill which was stunning and spectacular. 806 00:37:54,855 --> 00:37:59,105 And it was here that a spectacular display of violence 807 00:37:59,193 --> 00:38:02,612 was unleashed on all these rotten baddies. 808 00:38:02,697 --> 00:38:06,277 They were the worst people in the world, but they were just having the best time. 809 00:38:06,367 --> 00:38:08,286 But as for the cast and crew… 810 00:38:08,369 --> 00:38:11,708 It was like the rest of the movie. It was always uncomfortable. 811 00:38:11,789 --> 00:38:13,958 For some, it was uncomfortable in a… 812 00:38:14,041 --> 00:38:15,880 Dirty, disgusting water. 813 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:16,789 …kind of way. 814 00:38:16,876 --> 00:38:18,666 I refused to put on a wet suit 815 00:38:18,753 --> 00:38:22,054 under my costume because I was afraid I would look fat in the water. 816 00:38:22,132 --> 00:38:23,592 I'm a mess. 817 00:38:23,675 --> 00:38:28,175 I got in the water. It was freezing cold. That was a really big mistake. 818 00:38:28,264 --> 00:38:31,184 But for others, it was uncomfortable in more of a… 819 00:38:31,266 --> 00:38:33,516 Face was all swollen up. Eye was super puffed up. 820 00:38:33,601 --> 00:38:34,481 …kind of way. 821 00:38:34,561 --> 00:38:37,612 Extraordinary hours in a makeup chair. 822 00:38:37,690 --> 00:38:40,126 And while McCrane worked out the appropriate sound… 823 00:38:43,653 --> 00:38:46,623 …it was down to our friend Miles Teves… Yeah. 824 00:38:46,699 --> 00:38:50,239 …to work out how someone might look when they're melted down by toxic waste. 825 00:38:50,327 --> 00:38:53,577 I just started drawing skin melting off of the bones of the guy's hand. 826 00:38:53,664 --> 00:38:57,673 We sculpted the flesh hanging down, put weights inside the ends of the flesh, 827 00:38:57,751 --> 00:38:59,251 so they would hang down properly. 828 00:38:59,336 --> 00:39:00,706 Help me! 829 00:39:00,795 --> 00:39:03,465 I did the wasp-sting eye. It was actually a lot of fun. 830 00:39:03,548 --> 00:39:05,969 Nice someone was having fun. 831 00:39:06,052 --> 00:39:10,512 I had to feed him lunch, because he couldn't eat with the melted face. 832 00:39:10,597 --> 00:39:12,847 Nobody could really eat lunch that day. 833 00:39:12,932 --> 00:39:17,193 I had to hit this guy with the car. It was a pretty good dummy. 834 00:39:17,271 --> 00:39:20,780 And they throw watermelons and pig intestines at the windshield. 835 00:39:20,858 --> 00:39:23,818 And I was the guy that tossed the gak. 836 00:39:23,902 --> 00:39:27,452 I know Paul wanted bigger and more grotesque all the time. 837 00:39:27,530 --> 00:39:30,701 But amidst the explosive grotesqueness, 838 00:39:30,784 --> 00:39:33,244 the biggest bloodbath was the budget. 839 00:39:33,329 --> 00:39:37,119 You know, we're up to $12-million-and-bleeding range. 840 00:39:38,250 --> 00:39:43,010 That's right. The budget was a veritable gore fest, hemorrhaging cash. 841 00:39:43,922 --> 00:39:45,632 Paul had a lot to do with it. 842 00:39:45,715 --> 00:39:49,215 And for Barbara, well, perhaps she was wrong going Dutch. 843 00:39:49,302 --> 00:39:52,813 You're asking, "How did I let this happen after Flesh and Blood?" 844 00:39:52,889 --> 00:39:55,230 Because by this time, we knew how Paul shot. 845 00:39:57,811 --> 00:39:58,942 Or we should have. 846 00:39:59,021 --> 00:40:00,860 The production and Orion Pictures 847 00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:04,650 soon found themselves at a bit of an impasse. 848 00:40:04,735 --> 00:40:06,644 When the studio is getting all worked up, 849 00:40:06,737 --> 00:40:10,067 you know, you try and come up with something you can give up. 850 00:40:10,157 --> 00:40:13,327 But Paul Verhoeven was in no mood for concessions. 851 00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:16,581 He was having an argument with one of the producers over money. 852 00:40:16,664 --> 00:40:21,634 And all of a sudden, we hear, "Just tell me if you're going to fuck me!" 853 00:40:21,710 --> 00:40:23,840 "Tell me you're going to fuck me, and then I will know 854 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,630 if you are going to fuck me!" 855 00:40:25,713 --> 00:40:28,724 Luckily, it wouldn't come to that, 856 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,010 all thanks to a little… 857 00:40:30,094 --> 00:40:31,570 Glitch. No, not glitch. 858 00:40:31,594 --> 00:40:34,005 "Glitch" is the wrong word. More of a clerical error. 859 00:40:34,097 --> 00:40:35,268 Late in the production, 860 00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:38,809 the studio sent Jon Davison some paperwork. 861 00:40:39,353 --> 00:40:41,402 Somebody screwed up in business affairs, 862 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,940 because it was something that should've been signed in pre-production. 863 00:40:45,025 --> 00:40:46,525 Which was months ago. 864 00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:51,280 And it said the movie is budgeted for ten million 700 some-odd thousand dollars. 865 00:40:51,364 --> 00:40:54,235 And signing here, it says that you can make it for that. 866 00:40:54,326 --> 00:40:57,576 And I said to Jon, "You know, you can't sign that, 867 00:40:57,663 --> 00:40:59,213 because we're already well over that." 868 00:40:59,873 --> 00:41:02,673 He called his lawyer, the lawyer called the Orion guys and said, 869 00:41:02,751 --> 00:41:05,300 "He won't sign it. He'd be falsifying a document." 870 00:41:05,378 --> 00:41:07,918 Which, of course, would be a very blatant… 871 00:41:08,007 --> 00:41:09,007 Crime. 872 00:41:09,090 --> 00:41:11,760 You can't sign to a lie, and they didn't. 873 00:41:11,844 --> 00:41:14,224 With shooting well on its way to completion, 874 00:41:14,304 --> 00:41:17,594 Orion had no choice but to own up to its boo-boo. 875 00:41:17,682 --> 00:41:18,523 Just kidding. 876 00:41:18,601 --> 00:41:23,271 And we did the right thing, I think. Gave them money they needed. 877 00:41:23,355 --> 00:41:26,644 And they bumped the budget up to, I think it was 13.9. 878 00:41:26,733 --> 00:41:28,943 And so, Orion agreed to say, 879 00:41:29,027 --> 00:41:32,617 "Okay, we'll finish in Pennsylvania, we'll regroup in Los Angeles." 880 00:41:32,697 --> 00:41:34,237 And with the pressure off… 881 00:41:34,324 --> 00:41:36,864 Paul Verhoeven was so… Happy? And relaxed? 882 00:41:36,952 --> 00:41:39,331 He was so unhappy and miserable. 883 00:41:39,413 --> 00:41:42,172 He said, "They're giving me two more, they're giving me 13 million." 884 00:41:42,248 --> 00:41:44,838 "This is a 17-to-20-million-dollar film." 885 00:41:44,918 --> 00:41:48,458 "How do they expect me to do this film for this amount of money?" 886 00:41:48,547 --> 00:41:50,047 "This is not possible!" 887 00:41:50,132 --> 00:41:53,092 But eventually Paul was able to collect his nerves. 888 00:41:53,177 --> 00:41:55,677 And the production came back to Los Angeles 889 00:41:55,762 --> 00:41:59,813 to complete the final and arguably most important part of the movie. 890 00:42:00,476 --> 00:42:03,186 The scene where Murphy gets killed by the gang. 891 00:42:03,269 --> 00:42:05,230 Well, what have we here? 892 00:42:05,856 --> 00:42:07,266 And that was a wild set. 893 00:42:07,358 --> 00:42:08,858 First, they blow off his hand. 894 00:42:09,527 --> 00:42:10,686 Then blow off his arm. 895 00:42:11,612 --> 00:42:12,952 Then they blow off his head. 896 00:42:14,197 --> 00:42:15,197 It's… 897 00:42:15,657 --> 00:42:17,577 Na-na-na-na-na… 898 00:42:17,659 --> 00:42:20,579 Just… awful. 899 00:42:20,663 --> 00:42:24,503 While the set was teeming with enthusiasm at the beginning of the day… 900 00:42:24,583 --> 00:42:27,422 Paul directed the scene with a great deal of vigor. 901 00:42:27,503 --> 00:42:28,552 "Now, you kill him." 902 00:42:28,628 --> 00:42:33,009 …the morbid scene unfolding began to take its hole… sorry, toll. 903 00:42:33,092 --> 00:42:35,391 It looked so real, even there. 904 00:42:35,469 --> 00:42:38,759 It was surprisingly like… ew. And everybody on the set felt it. 905 00:42:38,847 --> 00:42:42,306 And the only one who felt it more than Peter Weller 906 00:42:42,393 --> 00:42:43,983 was the other Peter Weller. 907 00:42:44,061 --> 00:42:47,190 The prosthetic Peter Weller that Rob Bottin had built, 908 00:42:47,273 --> 00:42:49,612 it was extremely lifelike. 909 00:42:49,692 --> 00:42:51,442 And then the thing sits up. Go! 910 00:42:51,527 --> 00:42:54,817 Paul had set up this great tracking shot and you hear this, "Shoot!" 911 00:42:55,447 --> 00:42:58,657 The back of his head blows out, and there's a hole that you can see. 912 00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:01,619 Okay, let's get out of here. 913 00:43:01,704 --> 00:43:04,463 And that was a strange moment, like, everybody was like… 914 00:43:05,873 --> 00:43:07,043 Yeah. 915 00:43:07,126 --> 00:43:08,786 It was a grim set. 916 00:43:08,876 --> 00:43:13,416 And at the end of the day, it was, thankfully, a wrapped set. 917 00:43:13,507 --> 00:43:15,047 Okay, let's get out of here. 918 00:43:15,134 --> 00:43:16,764 And I remember Arne Schmidt going, 919 00:43:16,844 --> 00:43:18,554 "Is this okay?" 920 00:43:18,637 --> 00:43:21,516 You know, that's what editing is for. 921 00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,599 Which was already underway. 922 00:43:23,684 --> 00:43:24,943 I didn't see a rough cut. 923 00:43:25,018 --> 00:43:28,648 I saw scenes on the movie, all of it, Frank Urioste was putting together. 924 00:43:29,815 --> 00:43:32,855 And I thought, at that moment, that we had lightning in a bottle. 925 00:43:32,943 --> 00:43:34,583 After finishing the first cut, 926 00:43:34,652 --> 00:43:38,663 a preview screening was organized to see if audiences felt the same way. 927 00:43:38,740 --> 00:43:41,380 People were laughing right away, and I thought, "This is good." 928 00:43:41,952 --> 00:43:44,751 Twenty minutes in, things got bumpy. 929 00:43:45,331 --> 00:43:47,210 We had some walkouts. Let's get out of here. 930 00:43:47,291 --> 00:43:48,920 When Murphy got murdered, 931 00:43:49,001 --> 00:43:52,251 it was so intense that ten people got up and they left the room. 932 00:43:53,005 --> 00:43:56,545 Red alert. And the nightmare begins again. 933 00:43:56,634 --> 00:44:00,474 Because the film is quickly hit with an X rating. 934 00:44:01,472 --> 00:44:04,181 This was completely unacceptable. 935 00:44:04,266 --> 00:44:07,516 We got a problem. An X rating would mean no HBO. 936 00:44:07,603 --> 00:44:10,483 It'd mean no cartoon, no action figures. 937 00:44:10,563 --> 00:44:14,903 And most importantly, no RoboCop bubble bath. 938 00:44:14,985 --> 00:44:19,945 There were just all kinds of implications of this movie being an X-rated movie. 939 00:44:20,032 --> 00:44:24,291 But when Verhoeven was asked to edit the film down to an R rating… 940 00:44:24,369 --> 00:44:26,250 He fought every second of it. 941 00:44:26,329 --> 00:44:27,750 Of course he did. 942 00:44:27,831 --> 00:44:31,001 He said, "I'm not gonna do it. It will never be released." 943 00:44:31,085 --> 00:44:33,295 But that wasn't Verhoeven's call. 944 00:44:33,378 --> 00:44:36,628 Medavoy had to say, "Give us a break." Yeah. 945 00:44:36,715 --> 00:44:39,045 "We've done everything to get this movie made." 946 00:44:39,134 --> 00:44:40,764 "Do what you're supposed to do." 947 00:44:40,844 --> 00:44:43,353 And what Verhoeven was supposed to do, 948 00:44:43,429 --> 00:44:44,889 contractually speaking, 949 00:44:44,972 --> 00:44:46,983 was deliver an R-rated film. 950 00:44:47,059 --> 00:44:49,849 You know, so we did have to make some changes. 951 00:44:49,936 --> 00:44:54,186 They were painful, I'm sure, to Paul, but they were totally necessary. 952 00:44:54,273 --> 00:44:57,244 Though not entirely extensive either. 953 00:44:57,777 --> 00:44:59,358 You're talking about seconds. 954 00:45:00,905 --> 00:45:02,985 It really was seconds. 955 00:45:03,574 --> 00:45:07,034 Which was just enough to earn the film its R rating. 956 00:45:07,538 --> 00:45:08,458 Thank you, sir. 957 00:45:08,539 --> 00:45:11,708 And the next time we showed the movie, only one person got up and left. 958 00:45:11,791 --> 00:45:13,882 And with its new R rating, 959 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,300 the film was ready for its opening weekend. 960 00:45:16,380 --> 00:45:19,590 RoboCop will bombard movie theaters on July 17th. 961 00:45:19,675 --> 00:45:21,585 But how would audiences react 962 00:45:21,677 --> 00:45:25,217 to this action, sci-fi, robot, corporate, murder movie? 963 00:45:25,304 --> 00:45:29,434 After I finished shooting, I thought, "Who the hell is gonna see this movie?" 964 00:45:29,518 --> 00:45:32,057 We all thought it was gonna be crap, I'm pretty sure. 965 00:45:32,146 --> 00:45:34,056 I had seen the movie, you know, 400 times 966 00:45:34,148 --> 00:45:35,938 and I thought, "Well, I'm not even gonna go." 967 00:45:36,023 --> 00:45:38,364 Couple friends of mine said, "No, you have to go." 968 00:45:38,443 --> 00:45:41,744 And at last, after a grueling production 969 00:45:41,822 --> 00:45:44,742 marred by setbacks, recuts, and… 970 00:45:44,824 --> 00:45:46,364 "Tell me if you're going to fuck me." 971 00:45:46,452 --> 00:45:48,161 …more setbacks, 972 00:45:48,244 --> 00:45:51,824 Ed and Mike's passion project was finally on the big screen. 973 00:45:51,914 --> 00:45:53,625 Nice shooting, son. What's your name? 974 00:45:53,708 --> 00:45:56,208 And at the end when he says, "What's your name, son?" 975 00:45:56,295 --> 00:46:00,664 And he says, "Murphy," the audience roared in a way I could not anticipate. 976 00:46:00,757 --> 00:46:03,838 It actually almost made me cry. It was astonishing. 977 00:46:03,927 --> 00:46:06,637 That's when I realized people really like this movie. 978 00:46:06,722 --> 00:46:10,681 People were going nuts and we knew we had a hit on our hands. 979 00:46:10,768 --> 00:46:11,847 It was a thrill. 980 00:46:11,934 --> 00:46:13,304 It's a good movie. 981 00:46:13,394 --> 00:46:15,144 I remember sitting in Medavoy's office. 982 00:46:15,230 --> 00:46:17,360 There was a guy on a telephone, a payphone. 983 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,110 He was out in front of a theater in New York, saying… 984 00:46:20,193 --> 00:46:23,704 "They're coming out! They're laughing! They like it!" 985 00:46:23,780 --> 00:46:26,621 And Medavoy who'd been there went, "It's a hit. It's good." 986 00:46:26,699 --> 00:46:31,119 America's new super hit movie, RoboCop. 987 00:46:31,204 --> 00:46:33,114 And I didn't realize how much people liked it. 988 00:46:33,206 --> 00:46:34,456 RoboCop! 989 00:46:35,666 --> 00:46:36,746 Thanks, RoboCop. 990 00:46:36,835 --> 00:46:38,164 It was an interesting period. 991 00:46:38,253 --> 00:46:40,052 Now playing at a theater near you. 992 00:46:40,088 --> 00:46:42,717 And very quickly, people stopped saying… 993 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,219 "RoboCop? You must be kidding." 994 00:46:45,302 --> 00:46:47,447 And… "They're changing that title, right?" 995 00:46:47,471 --> 00:46:48,931 It seemed kinda silly to me. 996 00:46:49,014 --> 00:46:51,184 And instead, people started saying… 997 00:46:51,266 --> 00:46:52,266 RoboCop. 998 00:46:54,228 --> 00:46:55,807 That's a fucking awesome movie. 999 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,360 In fact, some even say… 1000 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,280 It's a perfect story, perfectly told. 1001 00:47:02,027 --> 00:47:06,737 And like all perfect stories, RoboCop is timeless. 1002 00:47:06,824 --> 00:47:10,083 It's an adventure about a guy who gets turned into a robot if you want, 1003 00:47:10,159 --> 00:47:12,789 but you can also see it as a sociological thing about cops. 1004 00:47:13,996 --> 00:47:15,786 And about corporate America. 1005 00:47:17,291 --> 00:47:18,791 This whole kind of notion that 1006 00:47:18,876 --> 00:47:21,547 the new power figure in the world was the business executive. 1007 00:47:21,630 --> 00:47:25,429 You just fucked with the wrong guy. 1008 00:47:26,802 --> 00:47:29,351 It's about how a country is broken 1009 00:47:30,012 --> 00:47:34,563 and it requires one individual to restore order to the broken place. 1010 00:47:36,269 --> 00:47:39,059 Well, it certainly took more than one individual 1011 00:47:39,146 --> 00:47:41,016 to make this masterpiece. 1012 00:47:41,608 --> 00:47:44,148 The right decision was made at every step. 1013 00:47:44,235 --> 00:47:48,365 And a lot of those decisions are thanks to this lot at Orion. 1014 00:47:48,865 --> 00:47:51,826 None more so than Barbara, 1015 00:47:52,619 --> 00:47:55,539 who, despite everything… 1016 00:47:55,621 --> 00:48:00,041 …managed to convince Paul Verhoeven to look beyond the title… 1017 00:48:00,126 --> 00:48:02,496 "This is everything I hate about America." 1018 00:48:02,588 --> 00:48:04,717 …and to see the… you know what. 1019 00:48:04,797 --> 00:48:06,927 Layers and layers and layers… 1020 00:48:07,009 --> 00:48:10,298 My argument to Verhoeven was, 1021 00:48:10,804 --> 00:48:15,643 "You can make a machine, and you can make man machine-like." 1022 00:48:18,228 --> 00:48:24,148 "But I'm telling you, this is about a man who becomes a machine." 1023 00:48:24,233 --> 00:48:26,074 "But inside the machine… 1024 00:48:28,237 --> 00:48:30,027 the man remains." 1025 00:48:31,032 --> 00:48:33,123 "That means there's humanity." 1026 00:48:33,827 --> 00:48:36,036 "And that means we have a hope 1027 00:48:37,246 --> 00:48:38,916 for the Earth and the world." 1028 00:48:42,668 --> 00:48:44,298 Murphy, it's you. 1029 00:48:45,297 --> 00:48:48,717 And Paul, he let me get all of this out. 1030 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,969 And then, he said, "Okay, I'll do it." 1031 00:48:52,887 --> 00:48:55,018 And we're glad he did. 1032 00:48:55,097 --> 00:48:56,097 Because, really… 1033 00:48:57,476 --> 00:48:59,346 it wouldn't be the same without him. 1034 00:48:59,436 --> 00:49:01,016 This is Paul Verhoeven's film. 1035 00:49:02,146 --> 00:49:03,476 It's his vision. 1036 00:49:03,981 --> 00:49:05,731 From Verhoeven's vision 1037 00:49:05,817 --> 00:49:08,317 to Peter Weller's performance, 1038 00:49:08,402 --> 00:49:15,163 really, it was the idea Ed Neumeier had on the Blade Runner set, decades ago… 1039 00:49:15,242 --> 00:49:19,123 Thirty-three years ago today, the movie premiered. 1040 00:49:19,206 --> 00:49:23,496 …that's led us right here, to the streets of new Detroit. 1041 00:49:25,753 --> 00:49:27,264 This is Dallas City Hall. 1042 00:49:28,255 --> 00:49:32,215 I missed the top of the building, but it was perfect for a matte painting. 1043 00:49:35,597 --> 00:49:37,677 There was a lot of pressure, and not a lot of time. 1044 00:49:37,766 --> 00:49:40,436 We were always sort of fighting to get the movie done. 1045 00:49:42,186 --> 00:49:45,726 The main thing we did here was Robo versus ED-209 at the end. 1046 00:49:46,858 --> 00:49:50,318 "You're illegally parked on private property. You have…" 1047 00:49:50,403 --> 00:49:52,244 Twenty seconds to move your vehicle. 1048 00:50:12,175 --> 00:50:13,585 'Cause whatever happens, 1049 00:50:13,677 --> 00:50:16,887 this corporation will live up to the guiding principles of its founder. 1050 00:50:16,972 --> 00:50:20,561 Courage, strength, conviction. 1051 00:50:20,641 --> 00:50:22,851 To tell you the truth, making RoboCop, 1052 00:50:22,936 --> 00:50:24,436 I mean, it was hard and it was scary, 1053 00:50:24,521 --> 00:50:27,320 but it was such a cool thing that we were getting to do this. 1054 00:50:27,398 --> 00:50:29,778 And we knew it, and we worked very hard. 1055 00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:31,610 And many people who worked on it 1056 00:50:31,695 --> 00:50:33,905 feel that was one of their most creative efforts. 1057 00:50:33,989 --> 00:50:35,869 I'd better drive until you know your way around. 1058 00:50:35,949 --> 00:50:38,579 It's one of the greatest achievements of my career. 1059 00:50:38,659 --> 00:50:44,710 It makes me feel very fortunate to be part of film history. 1060 00:50:45,291 --> 00:50:47,382 Murphy, I'm a mess. 1061 00:50:48,836 --> 00:50:53,257 It was very special, and something I can't thank them enough for. 1062 00:50:53,340 --> 00:50:55,931 Sayonara, RoboCop. 1063 00:50:57,137 --> 00:50:59,556 Paul and Ed in particular. 1064 00:50:59,639 --> 00:51:04,349 We will meet each new challenge with the same aggressive attitude. 1065 00:51:07,938 --> 00:51:10,068 Wow. It's good to be back. 1066 00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:13,110 One of the things that I really wanted to do as a writer 1067 00:51:13,195 --> 00:51:15,505 was write a script where you wanted to turn the pages fast, 1068 00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:16,570 where you kept reading. 1069 00:51:16,655 --> 00:51:19,025 Yeah, I think this is the place where Kinney… 1070 00:51:19,117 --> 00:51:21,117 Yes, sir. Come up and give us a hand? 1071 00:51:21,202 --> 00:51:23,583 Yes, sir. Picks up the gun in a threatening manner 1072 00:51:23,663 --> 00:51:25,543 and points it at ED-209. 1073 00:51:26,666 --> 00:51:28,585 Please put down your weapon. 1074 00:51:30,878 --> 00:51:33,298 Well, we got the blood out of the carpet. 1075 00:51:34,007 --> 00:51:35,797 I never thought, "I did this." 1076 00:51:36,342 --> 00:51:38,012 I mean, I think it's fine to have an idea 1077 00:51:38,094 --> 00:51:40,304 and to write some good lines, and to have a good story. 1078 00:51:40,387 --> 00:51:41,518 That was hard enough. 1079 00:51:41,597 --> 00:51:45,847 RoboCop was just a series of great pieces of luck I had. 1080 00:51:45,936 --> 00:51:47,726 Well, really, we're all lucky… 1081 00:51:50,065 --> 00:51:53,235 …Ed came up with the idea in the first place. 1082 00:51:53,318 --> 00:51:54,318 I got lucky, 1083 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,161 because I got Paul Verhoeven. I got Mike Miner, my partner, 1084 00:51:58,239 --> 00:51:59,909 I got Jon Davison, and I got Rob Bottin, 1085 00:51:59,990 --> 00:52:03,331 Phil Tippett and a hundred other people who did an amazing amount of work, 1086 00:52:03,411 --> 00:52:04,871 and that's why it's so good. 1087 00:52:05,621 --> 00:52:09,461 And it turned out much better than I could have hoped for. 1088 00:52:09,543 --> 00:52:12,782 Well, for all his humbleness… It's good to be back here. 1089 00:52:12,838 --> 00:52:16,128 …Ed and the RoboCop team shot the perfect movie. 1090 00:52:16,215 --> 00:52:17,835 Nice shooting, son. What's your name? 1091 00:52:17,925 --> 00:52:20,675 With the perfect name… 1092 00:52:21,637 --> 00:52:23,557 Murphy. "You must be kidding." 1093 00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:25,889 Actually… So, RoboCop. 89886

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