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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,160 # MUSIC: "Love Me Do" by The Beatles 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,480 50 years ago, something remarkable happened. 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,400 Four young men from Liverpool released a record that changed everything. 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,440 # Love, love me do 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,320 # You know I love you... # 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,080 I was immediately struck by their music. 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,680 Their beat and their sense of humour onstage. 8 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,040 We never knew that music was going to change 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,320 the world's idea on what kids could do. 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,800 It's similar to when you hear the first and the great songs by anybody. 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,440 It's like hearing Heartbreak Hotel. Elvis's Heartbreak Hotel. 12 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,800 I mean, it's a moment you know is great. 13 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,160 1962 was definitely great for some 14 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:55,120 and a brush with fame for others. 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,640 It was John, Paul, George and Andy. 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Me. Not Ringo. 17 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,840 This is the story of that momentous year. 18 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:07,200 The year where America and Russia played a game of global poker with nuclear weapons 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,200 and the world seemed minutes away from World War III. 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,120 We all stood looking towards the west 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,440 to see if there was going to be 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,640 some kind of major orange explosion in the sky or something. 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,200 A year when a new generation had something to say 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,480 and Liverpool hummed to the beat of 300 pop groups 25 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,920 as the city became the centre of the pop universe. 26 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,320 # Love me do. # 27 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:33,840 1962 changed my life completely. 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,400 One minute, I'm working as a secretary 29 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,440 in a general office just around the corner, 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,360 next minute, I'm in the hub of Beatlemania. 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,920 If you went abroad and spoke with a Liverpool accent, 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,520 you were treated like God. 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,640 That was how '62 was a momentous year in Liverpool 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,760 and elevated and changed so many people's lives. 35 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,800 It was absolutely incredible. 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,200 For the Beatles, it was a year of keeping secrets. 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,560 A year of intrigue, tragedy, 38 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,200 betrayal and ruthless ambition. 39 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,880 Tonight, we'll be finding out what happened, why it happened 40 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,680 and why we should all be thankful for 1962. 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,360 # Love me do 42 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,320 # Oh, oh, love me do. # 43 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:23,560 HARMONICA RECITAL 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,240 It's The Beatles! 45 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,480 MUSIC: "Some Other Guy" by The Beatles 46 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,200 # Some other guy, now 47 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,480 # Is taking my love away from me Oh, now 48 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,280 # Some other guy, now 49 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,560 # Is taking away my sweet desire Oh, now 50 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,080 # Some other guy, now 51 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,440 # I just don't wanna hold my hand Oh, now 52 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,840 # I'm the lonely one... # 53 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,040 This is the only surviving film of The Beatles in the Cavern. 54 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,120 It's August 1962 and one of Ringo's earliest appearances 55 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,880 with John, Paul and George. 56 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,680 The kings are in their castle and they're going down a storm. 57 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,920 In a few weeks, life for The Beatles will change forever. 58 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:29,840 But for the moment, the future is uncertain. 59 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,800 # Oh, now I'm the lonely one As lonely as I can feel, all right. # 60 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,440 To keep spirits up, they have their own catchphrase. 61 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,160 John Lennon will ask, "Where are we going, boys?" 62 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:48,000 And the band will reply, "To the toppermost of the poppermost, Johnnie." 63 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,480 The toppermost is still some way off. 64 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,240 So for the moment, The Cavern will have to do. 65 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:58,720 # Some other guy is making me very, very mad, oh, now 66 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,520 # Some other guy, now 67 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,760 # Is taking apart all of my past Oh, now 68 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:04,920 # Some other guy, now 69 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,200 # She was the first girl I ever had 70 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,280 # Oh, now, I'm the lonely one 71 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,640 # As lonely as I can feel 72 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,600 # Oh-ho-ho-ho 73 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,120 # I'm a-talking to you right now. # 74 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,440 HORN SOUNDS 75 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,560 # Moon river 76 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,320 # Wider than a mile 77 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:52,120 # I'm crossing you in style some day. # 78 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,480 Moon River was the number one song as 1962 dawned 79 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,400 and the New Year brought hope for many in Liverpool. 80 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,680 The days of the frugal '50s seemed at last to be long gone. 81 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,000 Beer was ten pence a pint, bread five pence a loaf. 82 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,360 The average wage was �800 a year. 83 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,600 There was much to look forward to. 84 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,120 None more so than The Beatles, who found themselves in London on New Year's Day, 85 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,920 auditioning for a recording contract with Decca Records. 86 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,880 # Hello, little girl 87 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,040 # Hello, little girl. # 88 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,320 The Beatles had high hopes, 89 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:30,120 but a hard day's night drinking in the new year had taken its toll. 90 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,040 The session did not go well. 91 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,720 It was a hangover to remember for drummer Pete Best, 92 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,400 who's just been voted the fans' favourite Beatle. 93 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:42,480 Brian Epstein read the riot act to us before we went down. 94 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,920 "Be good little boys. You mustn't be out after 10 o'clock." 95 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,000 And there we were in the middle of Trafalgar Square, 96 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,280 drunk as skunks enjoying New Year's Day. 97 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:56,800 Or the advent of New Year's Day. 98 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:02,240 And, of course, when we actually got to the Decca studios the next day, 99 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:07,400 we were late. Seems to be our history being late. 100 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,920 Brian, of course, was there before us and he was absolutely livid. 101 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,840 He tore a strip off us left, right and centre. 102 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:18,520 John just basically turned around and said, 103 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,600 "Brian, shut up. We're here for the audition." 104 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,400 All the bright hopes for the new year were overshadowed 105 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,000 as America and Russia went head-to-head in nuclear bomb testing. 106 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,960 The Cold War was entering an ice age. 107 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,920 It would become a global crisis later in the year. 108 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,480 On the dance floors, nobody seemed to care. 109 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,480 A new dance craze had everyone in a twist. 110 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,880 RECORDING: 'From Mayfair to Marseille, from Missouri to Manchester, 111 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,200 'the Twist has set the world's feet a-tapping. 112 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,040 'Everyone everywhere has danced to the beat that's topped the pops 113 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,760 'and inspired twist skirts, twist shirts and even twist haircuts. 114 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,920 'North London barber Tom Ahmed 115 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,320 'has translated this ding-dong dance into hair. 116 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,880 'A hairstyle which soon became a share style 117 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,960 'when the girls liked the look of their boyfriends' sleek locks. 118 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,680 'Once a male preserve, togetherness is now the order of the day.' 119 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,880 # Sweet dream, baby... # 120 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,160 In Liverpool, the place to buy records was at NEMS. 121 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,000 North End Music Stores, owned by the Epstein family 122 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,120 and run by Brian Epstein. 123 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,600 The store boasted they'd find any record you asked for. 124 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,200 One request for a German single, My Bonnie by Tony Sheridan, 125 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,520 backed by a group called The Beatles, 126 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,560 led Epstein to go and see them at the nearby Cavern Club. 127 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,400 He was so impressed, he offered to manage them. 128 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,200 They agreed a deal that gave him 129 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,800 25% of their earnings for the next five years. 130 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,840 In return, he vowed to get them a record deal in 1962 131 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,840 and tells everyone he meets they'll be bigger than Elvis. 132 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:11,040 The Beatles were then just four lads on that rather dimly-lit stage, 133 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,480 somewhat ill clad 134 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,160 and the presentation left a little to be desired, 135 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,160 as far as I was concerned 136 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,200 because I've been interested in the theatre and acting for a long time. 137 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,920 But amongst all that, 138 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,320 something tremendous came over. 139 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,200 And I was immediately struck by their music, 140 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,000 their beat and their sense of humour, actually, onstage. 141 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,320 And even afterwards when I met them, 142 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,720 I was struck again by their personal charm. 143 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,120 And it was there that really, it all started. 144 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,360 But Epstein was a troubled man. 145 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Outwardly, he was the genial new manager of The Beatles. 146 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,640 But he shared with them a secret. 147 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,280 He was homosexual and ran the risk of being arrested 148 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,320 and facing a jail sentence. 149 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,960 For in 1962, it was against the law to have sex with another man. 150 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,440 Epstein risked everything. 151 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,320 The more he worked with The Beatles, 152 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,000 the more his secret life came under the spotlight. 153 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,200 He had already been badly beaten up and blackmailed. 154 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:19,080 There was one particular night that he'd spent in my company. 155 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:23,960 And we'd been out to dinner and we had a very nice night. 156 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:27,840 And I had a very nice apartment on Princes Road at the time. 157 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,600 But then he decides to go his own... 158 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,440 "Good night. See you." 159 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,800 And he went out 160 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,080 and er...met somebody who... 161 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:45,720 He was quite, um...I would say quite vulnerable, really. 162 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,680 If somebody said they liked him or made a fuss of him, 163 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:51,200 he'd be pleased with that. 164 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,800 But he would open himself up to the wrong type of people. 165 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,840 Anyway, eventually, he came back to me that same night. 166 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,280 When he left me he had a beautiful, white Peter England, 167 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,920 that was his favourite shirt. He came back to me and it was red. 168 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,240 As red as could be. He had been knocked about. 169 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,440 He would enjoy people who are rough. He liked their company. 170 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,040 Epstein tried to keep his secret life away from The Beatles 171 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,840 but there was one occasion 172 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,880 when he made his feelings known to Pete Best on a trip to Blackpool. 173 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,640 John and Cyndi were in the back seat, I was in the front. 174 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:35,560 We'd had a couple of pints and we could see the tower of Blackpool in the distance 175 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:39,080 and Brian turned over and very casually turned round 176 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:46,360 and said, "How would you enjoy spending the night with me in Blackpool?" 177 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,360 And it was said in such a tone 178 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,840 it wasn't just a case of having a couple of drinks 179 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,680 and I basically turned round and said, 180 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:59,640 "You're picking on the wrong kid, Brian. I'm not that way inclined." 181 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:04,880 He apologised. John and Cyndi were in the car. 182 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:09,240 They just sort of looked when we got out and they turned round and said, 183 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,440 "Did we hear what we thought we heard?" and I went, "Yeah." 184 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,520 And John just sort of went... 185 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,680 And nothing more was said. 186 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:20,920 I didn't go around with a great big placard 187 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,760 saying "Brian's propositioned me!" It was like, 188 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,040 it's happened, let's push it under the carpet 189 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,480 and that's the way we were treating it. 190 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,720 - # Do you love me - I can really move 191 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:38,120 - # Do you love me? - I'm in the groove 192 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,440 - # Now, do you love me? - Do you love me? # 193 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,280 This is one of the most famous streets 194 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,720 in the history of popular music. 195 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,760 People come from all over the world to look 196 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,280 and to listen to get their photograph taken. 197 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,640 50 years ago though 198 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:58,160 only a select few in Liverpool knew that this was the place to be. 199 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,400 - # I can mash-potato - I can mash-potato 200 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,720 - # And I can do the twist - I can do the twist... # 201 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,520 Not much to look at upstairs but downstairs 202 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,120 what Brian Epstein called a Cellarful Of Noise - 203 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,680 dark, dingy, hot, sweaty - 204 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:22,960 everything a rock'n'roll club should be. 205 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,000 MUSIC: "Do You Love Me?" by The Contours 206 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,560 I think the Cavern was extremely important 207 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:36,360 to the groups in Liverpool. 208 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,360 One of the reasons was they had somewhere to practise 209 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:42,280 after the lunchtime sessions, 210 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:47,320 plus they could play as loud as they could cos it's a cellar, 211 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:52,480 and where it was associated it didn't affect anybody, the noise. 212 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,840 But there was also the atmosphere in the Cavern itself 213 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,200 and I suppose you know about the Cavern smell? 214 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:04,440 People said it was a horrible smell but I actually liked it. 215 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:09,600 It was a mixture of, as I say, body sweat, cleaning fluids... 216 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,880 But also we had the fruit market opposite 217 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:17,320 so you got the smell of fruit mixed in. 218 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,960 'Once more, Colonel John Glenn was all set to journey into space. 219 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:31,800 'He showed no signs of tension despite previous frustrations and delays.' 220 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,080 While Liverpool had its underground heroes, over in America 221 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:40,240 new, cleaner-cut versions were making the dream of space exploration a reality. 222 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:46,600 'This time, conditions were perfect. The launching itself without fault. 223 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,360 'All went well with the giant Atlas Rocket 224 00:13:55,360 --> 00:14:00,480 'and at 17,545 mph Colonel Glenn went into orbit. 225 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,920 THEY CHANT: We want work! We want work! 226 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,600 But back in Liverpool, 227 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,000 the city was in the grip of one of its worst unemployment crises. 228 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,680 30,000 men were out of work on Merseyside. 229 00:14:14,680 --> 00:14:17,200 That's 33 men for every job vacancy. 230 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,560 More than double the national average. 231 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,000 It was this lack of jobs, especially for young people, 232 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,480 that helped create so many groups in the city. 233 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,320 If you were young in 1962, 234 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,840 music was the best escape route even if you were still at school. 235 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,680 I saw the Beatles 236 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,120 halfway through January that year 237 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,920 and I left school a couple of days later 238 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,640 because I knew what I wanted to do. 239 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,960 I started as a 15-year-old schoolboy, 240 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,760 only just 15 by the way, 241 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:55,240 and ended it playing in one of the biggest groups in Liverpool. 242 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:00,120 Also playing on the same bill two or three times week as The Beatles 243 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,920 at the Cavern and various gigs around Liverpool. 244 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,480 In Liverpool around that time, we had lots of clubs, 245 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:12,080 youth clubs, and in the youth clubs they had boxing, table tennis 246 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,840 and whatever, football and music. 247 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,000 So you either boxed or you played music 248 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,280 and we all had sense and we played music. 249 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,560 I boxed for a few years and that was enough for me. 250 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,080 So we thought, right, let's stick to the guitars, 251 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,400 leave the boxing to the big boys. 252 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,240 So we'd just form bands, 253 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,880 and there was hundreds of bands in Liverpool. Great rivalry. 254 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,960 We were great rivals with the Beatles onstage. 255 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,560 Offstage, best of mates. 256 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,720 John was my best pal but onstage - "Let's be better than them!" 257 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,400 There must be about 300 or so rock'n'roll groups in Liverpool. 258 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,360 You've only got to mention Liverpool 259 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,400 and all the fans start screaming and going wild. It's glamour! 260 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,800 But when you weigh it up it's rather ironic to think 261 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,720 that there's about twice as many people on the dole here as anywhere else in the country. 262 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,480 It is a good thing, the fact that they are on the dole, 263 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,840 as far as they can spend all day practising, 264 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:06,160 whereas, if they had a normal job, they wouldn't be able to do that at all. 265 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,080 Oh, in fact one chap used to play with us - 266 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,720 he was on and off the dole for about five years in all. 267 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,600 But, seriously, there's loads of vitality 268 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,600 and talent ready to break out of Liverpool at any time at all. 269 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,240 MUSIC: "He's A Rebel" by The Crystals 270 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,800 The Beatles exploded with energy. 271 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,760 Trips to Hamburg where they were playing eight hours a night non-stop 272 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,880 had turned them into savage young Beatles, 273 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:36,200 rampant, ready to rock and shock, dressed from head to toe in leather. 274 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:40,480 # Cos he's not just one of the crowd... # 275 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,280 We bought leather pants and we looked like four Gene Vincents, 276 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,720 only a bit younger, I think. 277 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,880 And that was it - we just kept those, 278 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,480 the leather gear, till Brian came along. 279 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,880 It was the first thing that Epstein changed. 280 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,200 He put them in suits. 281 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,200 It was a bit sort of old hat anyway, all wearing leather gear, 282 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,240 and we decided we didn't want to look ridiculous, 283 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,720 just going on because, more often than not, 284 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,040 too many people would laugh. It was just stupid. 285 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,640 We didn't want to appear as a gang of idiots 286 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,880 and Brian suggested we just sort of wore ordinary suits. 287 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,280 So we just got what we thought were quite good suits 288 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,000 and just got rid of the leather gear. 289 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,800 - Can I talk to you about Brian Epstein? - Oh, certainly, yes. 290 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,800 - What does he mean to you as a manager? - Brian? Oh, money! 291 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,800 No, seriously though, he has done a lot for us. 292 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,600 He tells us all kinds what to do. 293 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,840 He made us that were suits and look better and everything. 294 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,440 But even in our private lives he plays a hell of a lot. 295 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:45,720 When we met Brian, 296 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,320 Brian would say to us, "Slow down when you're talking. 297 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,160 "I don't know what you're saying." Cos we were Scouse. 298 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,160 HE SPEAKS IN IMPENETRABLE SCOUSE ACCENT 299 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,920 "Whoa," he'd say, "If you become famous, 300 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,680 "how can you go and talk like that on the radio or television? 301 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,760 "Slow down, take it easy." And we thought, "All right." 302 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,200 And he said, "If you go out, wear a suit. 303 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,360 "Don't wear your jeans and an old t-shirt, wear a suit." 304 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,960 Decca Records weren't impressed by The Beatles in suits or leather. 305 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,320 They turned down the chance to sign the group. 306 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,320 The lines of rejection are recorded forever in infamy. 307 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,320 They told Epstein... 308 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,200 The news threw Epstein into the depths of despair. 309 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,880 He was the one who felt the rejection more than anyone else 310 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,240 because he was the new kid on the block, in a way, if we could put it that way. 311 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:42,200 He was the new manager, big hopes, major record company, Decca, 312 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:49,000 and more or less thinking to his own sweet self, this one's in the bag. 313 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:50,960 We turned round and told Brian, 314 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,720 "We lost that one. It doesn't change the way we perform. 315 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,320 "In fact, it makes us a little bit more determined. 316 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,040 "But it is also going to make YOU more determined as well. 317 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,920 "YOU'VE got to get over the rejection." 318 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,400 I think that was the message that we put out. 319 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,840 Still reeling from the Decca rejection, 320 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:12,400 The Beatles were shocked to discover their friend and former Beatle, Stuart Sutcliffe, 321 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,160 had died from a brain haemorrhage in Hamburg. 322 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,560 Sutcliffe was the king of cool. 323 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,320 The boy with the James Dean looks, who dressed in black, 324 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,880 and who John Lennon said gave The Beatles their style. 325 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,120 He was also a talented young artist 326 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:28,960 and John Lennon's closest friend at art school. 327 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,800 He'd left the group the previous year 328 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,440 and gone back to studying art while they were in Hamburg. 329 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,800 That's all he ever wanted to be. 330 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:39,920 He never ever had an ambition to be anything else. 331 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,000 When parents ask children, 332 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,160 "What are you going to be when you grow up?" 333 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,880 He'd always say, "I want to paint." And he did. 334 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,920 For Stuart, leaving The Beatles was a difficult choice. 335 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,040 It was over the months that he realised 336 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,280 that he really couldn't manage both. 337 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,600 There weren't enough hours in the day. 338 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,840 I think he was terribly upset and worried about telling John. 339 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:07,880 Rightly. 340 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,400 John felt the loss of Stuart more than the other Beatles. 341 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,200 I think he felt quite betrayed. 342 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,680 And, in some ways, he had a right to feel, 343 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:27,840 you know, he'd done a lot to ensure that Stuart was with him, 344 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:34,000 and part of his passion and what a passion he had. 345 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,040 So he was generous with his passion 346 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:42,720 and Stuart was generous with his with John and I do believe 347 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,200 he felt that Stuart took that away from him. 348 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,760 Which to some extent he did. 349 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,960 Sir Peter Blake, the leading light behind British pop art, 350 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,440 was a close friend of The Beatles for many years. 351 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,520 He designed the front cover of the Sgt Pepper album and would later 352 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,560 paint this portrait of The Beatles from photographs taken in 1962. 353 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,680 Sir Peter has close links with Liverpool. 354 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:15,320 In 1961, he won the prestigious John Moores Young Artist Of The Year award. 355 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,280 He believes Sutcliffe was a rare talent. 356 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,600 It was something John Lennon would always champion. 357 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,920 Oddly enough, the very first thing 358 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,920 that John Lennon said to me when we first met, 359 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,840 for some reason the John Moores came up 360 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:35,480 and the fact that I'd won the junior prize, and he said, 361 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,560 "You should never have got that, Stuart should have got that." 362 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,160 And he meant it. So his first... He was always kind of abrasive 363 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,680 but his very first statement was that - 364 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,440 "Stuart Sutcliffe should have won that junior prize, not you." 365 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,160 In a grumpy way. 366 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:05,240 You don't get as many ferries across the Mersey anymore. 367 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,520 You don't get much craft of any kind really. 368 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,960 But back in 1962 369 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,760 Liverpool was one of the world's major seaports. 370 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,600 The docks would've stretched for miles along here 371 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,680 and craft of every kind would pour in from all over the globe bringing cargo of every kind 372 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,760 including one that made Liverpool pop capital of the world. 373 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,200 Many of the ships were coming from New York. 374 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,920 For those in Liverpool, America was the land of milk and honey. 375 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,080 And records. Chunks of vinyl you couldn't get anywhere else. 376 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,560 And the boys on the boats were bringing them home. 377 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,480 They'd come from the States with records 378 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:03,360 and there was always one person from every family who was in the merchant navy going back and forward 379 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:05,600 and they'd bring the records in with them. 380 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,560 The first one I heard which changed my life was Elvis Presley 381 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,560 singing Hound Dog and Heartbreak Hotel. 382 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:13,880 And I had a skiffle band, 383 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,200 and when I heard it and heard the piano in it, 384 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,640 I thought, I want a piano in the band. 385 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,520 So we got a piano in our band 386 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,160 and we were the first band in Liverpool with a piano. 387 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,760 Thanks to Elvis and thanks to all the people bringing the records in 388 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,120 and that was very important. 389 00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:32,920 MUSIC: "Good Golly Miss Molly" by Little Richard 390 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,880 They used to bring furniture back, kitchen furniture in particular, 391 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,040 because we were refurbishing our homes 392 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:55,280 and the American kitchen table and four chairs was Formica 393 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,240 which we didn't have up to then. 394 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,680 They were bringing those home. 395 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,200 And various other things. Boxes of nylons. 396 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,800 But my brother preferred to bring me in particular 397 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,920 the records that I wanted. 398 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,520 # Good golly, Miss Molly 399 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,240 # Sure like to ball 400 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,040 # When you're rocking and a'rolling... # 401 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,920 These records were coming in on the boats 402 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:29,320 so then they'd get circulated around the music community in Liverpool, 403 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,280 kids at home would be learning the lyrics. 404 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,880 You'd put the needle on the edge of the record 405 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,880 and you'd play it through, somebody would be jotting down the lyrics 406 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,720 and get as far as you could 407 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,680 and then wind the single back on the turntable again, 408 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,120 let it go, jot down the next set of lyrics. 409 00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:48,440 That's how a lot of the lyrics were learned, 410 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,240 cos kids couldn't buy sheet music necessarily. 411 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,520 It perpetuated, it was fascinating because it perpetuated. 412 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,920 If you were listening to, I don't know, an old Bobby Darin single or something 413 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,560 and he mispronounced one of the words 414 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,000 as everybody was writing it down, 415 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,200 that missed lyric would then perpetuate into the English version. 416 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,600 - So, it was, you know... - HE LAUGHS 417 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,400 All of this demonstrates the innocence of the time really. 418 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,000 MUSIC: "Town Without Pity" by Gene Pitney 419 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,720 Liverpool still wore the proud face of Victorian prosperity 420 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,280 but its body was broken. 421 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,800 It had the worst housing problems in Britain. 422 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,600 80,000 homes were regarded as not fit to live in - 423 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,040 that's slums to you and me, 424 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,240 and it brought with it its own problems. 425 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:50,800 About 15% of the children live in small houses shortly due for demolition. 426 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,680 Not so long ago, a little boy came to school in great distress 427 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,640 because his pet dog had been killed 428 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,720 by a rat at the bottom of his bed that morning. 429 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,880 Also, they have very little background knowledge. 430 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,040 We try to take them out to parks and farms. 431 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,600 This week, some of them 432 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,560 saw the cow for the very first time in their lives. 433 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,120 There'd been ambitious plans since the war to rehouse people 434 00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:19,480 from the city centre in new suburban housing estates. 435 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,760 Most houses, though, still had an outside toilet, 436 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,760 no fridges, no central heating. 437 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,640 # Many problems... # 438 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,600 We still had the dolly peg in the tub and she'd do the washing 439 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,840 and she'd say, "Right, Gerry, your turn." Never called me Gerry. 440 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,320 "Right, Gerard, dolly." "All right, Mam, dolly." 441 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,280 So I'd get there...for an hour. 442 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,600 After an hour you've got muscles... 443 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,120 That's why Liverpool women were hard cases. 444 00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:50,520 They had big muscles with dollying, going down the wash house. 445 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,360 But that was life, you didn't think of it being wrong. 446 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:59,880 The houses where we lived were slums? They weren't slums at all. 447 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,720 The steps were spotless, the brasses were clean, the house was great. 448 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,320 And they'd say, "Where we live, we can leave our doors open." 449 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,280 And we said, "Yeah, because there's nothing to steal." 450 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,200 This is the kitchen of a fairly typical Liverpudlian council house, 451 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,120 built just after the Second World War. 452 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:21,520 So there's no microwave or dishwasher obviously 453 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,520 but there's a twin tub - very smart - Belfast sink. 454 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,400 It's a good example of the social housing of the day. 455 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,440 But that's not the only reason the National Trust bought it. 456 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,920 They bought it because this is the house Paul McCartney grew up in. 457 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,000 Paul lived here with brother Mike in 1962. 458 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,360 Paul would write songs while Mike would take photographs. 459 00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:01,480 So this is where, in some ways, you could say the Beatles story really begins. 460 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,760 In the garden of Forthlin Road where, it's said during 1958, Paul McCartney, 461 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,040 playing truant from school wrote the bulk of what would become 462 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,520 Love Me Do with a little addition of a middle eight by one John Lennon. 463 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,400 But neither he, nor John, 464 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,320 nor anyone could have known what that little song would lead to. 465 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,440 For years, legend has had it that Love Me Do was written about Iris Fenton. 466 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,800 Iris was the envy of all her friends in 1962. 467 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,440 She was 17 and a dancer. 468 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,800 Better still, she was dating Paul McCartney. 469 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:42,720 It wasn't until the end of '61 470 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:49,720 that I think I started to notice him as a fella, sort of thing. 471 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:56,160 Then we went out for quite a long time, until '63. 472 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:01,680 But, in saying we went out, I wasn't always in Liverpool, 473 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,840 he was often in Hamburg. 474 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:09,760 There were letters he used to write all the time and everything 475 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,200 and it was really good fun. 476 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:19,160 Initially, we would go out on a Tuesday to the pictures 477 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,240 and sometimes he would pay and sometimes I would pay. 478 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,840 It was all so very different. We would get the bus then. 479 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,240 But I was with him when he got his first car. 480 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,240 So it all sort of grew from there. 481 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,560 Some people have asked me about Love Me Do 482 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,920 and whether it was written about me. It wasn't. 483 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,280 It was written before I was going out with him 484 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,160 and it might have been written about his girlfriend before 485 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,800 but it was definitely not written about me. 486 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,600 Iris was sister of Rory Storm. 487 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,480 Rory and his group The Hurricanes were one of The Beatles' closest rivals. 488 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,680 They had a drummer called Richard Starkey - Ringo to you and me. 489 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,760 And the bands would meet up after sessions at the Cavern. 490 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,360 Of a night, whatever groups had been on at the Cavern, 491 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,720 they all used to come back to our house. 492 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,320 It was called Stormsville. 493 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,160 They called me mum and dad Ma and Pa Storm. 494 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,000 Well, the Beatles used to call me dad the Crusher 495 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,040 and they called me mum Violent Vi. 496 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:25,240 I've got no idea why! But everybody used to come back to our house. 497 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,400 It was... 498 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,480 Mum used to make chip butties or cheese barm cakes 499 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,960 and pots and pots of tea. 500 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,320 And we just used to laugh all night and people would be strumming guitars 501 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,680 and me dad would be in bed shouting, "Who's using my electricity?" 502 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,480 And next door would bang on the wall, but it was absolutely fantastic. 503 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,280 Anyone who went to Stormsville, ask them 504 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,720 and they'll say there wasn't a house like it. 505 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,400 A crime show based at Kirkby, near Liverpool, 506 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,760 had the nation enthralled, and a new catchphrase was born. 507 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,520 - Z-Victor 1 to BD. - Go ahead, Z-Victor 1. 508 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,760 The crime series reflected the key change in police policy 509 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,560 that many now regret - moving away from bobbies on the beat 510 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,400 into what became known as panda cars. 511 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,560 It was recorded live each week and offered 512 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,000 young actors like Brian Blessed and Judi Dench their TV debuts. 513 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,200 - What's your name? - Judy Garland. - Oh, aye? 514 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,160 - Shall I sing a song, like, prove it? - Look, stop messing about, just... 515 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,080 - Hey! - # Ever since this world began... # - Hey, shut it. 516 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,920 - Well, you're not long on manners, are you? - What's your name? 517 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,040 - Marlon Brando. - Oh, come on. - Hey, no! 518 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,640 - We haven't got time to waste playing games with the likes of you. - Oh. 519 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,040 # Oh, yes, wait a minute, Mr Postman... # 520 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,480 The month of May brought the best of news in a telegram for the Beatles. 521 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,560 Epstein's hard work had paid off. 522 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,080 EMI Records offered a recording deal on their small Parlophone label, 523 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,120 working with a young producer called George Martin. 524 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,800 He asked them to record a demo session of their songs 525 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,960 to help choose the debut single. 526 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,600 We had the recording session. 527 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,960 These were basically to let... as it turned out, 528 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,880 George Martin, Ron Richards and Norm Smith, that was the crew. 529 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,600 Er, let them know, you know, 530 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,560 these were the songs we were possibly considering. 531 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,920 Let them hear. And in a way it was, er, George Martin's decision. 532 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:36,120 I mean, he opted for Love Me Do, with the B-side being PS I Love You. 533 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,400 And that was the first release, the A and the B-side. 534 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,120 As August began, there was sad news from America. 535 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,480 Marilyn Monroe, the golden girl of Hollywood, 536 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,480 leaves behind a glittering and tragic legend. 537 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,600 Presentation to the Queen of England was but one climax 538 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,400 in a life that began drearily as an unwanted child 539 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,080 and ended in a lonely self-inflicted death 36 years later. 540 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,360 50 years on, the circumstances of Marilyn's death are still shrouded in controversy. 541 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,320 The Beatles share a similar mystery, 542 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:11,440 a whodunnit that still has no real answer - the sacking of Pete Best. 543 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,800 The plot thickens because we now know that George Martin 544 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,960 was unhappy with Best's style of drumming on the demo session. 545 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,320 He told Epstein he would probably use a session drummer 546 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,560 when they came to record. 547 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,280 But nobody was telling Best. 548 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,440 Lennon and McCartney shared a ruthless ambition to succeed. 549 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,040 If there was a doubt about Pete's drumming ability, then he was out. 550 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,800 And out he went. 551 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,040 Brian Epstein reveals in his book A Cellarful Of Noise, 552 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,920 "One night the three of them approached me and said, 'We want Pete out and Ringo in.' 553 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,040 "I decided that if the group were to remain happy Pete Best must go." 554 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,520 Epstein summoned Best to a meeting. 555 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,840 And I went in happy as Larry. You know. 556 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,400 The last thing in me mind 557 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,560 was that I was going to get kicked out the Beatles. 558 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,440 And when I walked in...erm... 559 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,040 Brian was very agitated, flustered, 560 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,280 he wasn't his normal cool, calm, placid self. 561 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,720 And he...mumbled 562 00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:14,000 and basically talked round the subject for a couple of minutes. 563 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,840 And then he turned round and said, 564 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,240 "Pete, I really don't know how to turn round and tell you this. 565 00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:21,120 "The boys want you out." 566 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,800 And I think the key word was, "It's already been arranged that 567 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,400 "Ringo will join the band... erm...on Saturday." 568 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,960 And that was the bombshell. To me it was like disbelief. 569 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,640 It was like, "Hang on a moment, I'll wake up in a minute 570 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,720 "and this is all gone." 571 00:34:38,720 --> 00:34:41,000 Stuck for words, the bombshell had happened, 572 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,880 I turned round and told Brian, "What's the reason for it?" 573 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,920 You know, and he turned round and said, "They feel that Ringo's a better drummer." 574 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,640 Which at that stage didn't make sense, because I had 575 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,240 the reputation of being one of the best drummers in Liverpool. 576 00:34:56,240 --> 00:35:01,560 It's fine if people think about me as, you know, the poor guy. That's their impression. 577 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,160 You know, poor emotions, I can see where it's coming from. 578 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,240 You know, "You should have been part of the biggest thing in showbusiness." 579 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,520 What they fail to forget is that, yeah, I mean, 580 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,520 I have a lot of pride and, you know, hold my head up high, 581 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,840 the fact that, yes, I did a lot for that band initially. 582 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,320 You know, I had two years with them. Maybe I would have had more. 583 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,120 Karma turned round and said it wasn't meant to be. 584 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,440 You know, but whatever I achieved 585 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,880 and whatever I achieved afterwards and since then 586 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,280 I've always been proud of the fact. 587 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:37,160 And it's always nice to have been associated with the number-one band in the world. 588 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,520 You know. Regardless of how people feel, they can't take that honour away from me. 589 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,520 The drama of the Best sacking was overshadowed by world events. 590 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,320 In August, Russia places nuclear missiles on Cuba. 591 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,920 They're pointing one way - at the USA. 592 00:35:55,920 --> 00:36:00,360 For a few weeks, it seemed the world was on the brink of a nuclear war between the superpowers. 593 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,240 - NEWSREEL: - At the White House, making the announcement to the waiting world, 594 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:09,120 Mr Kennedy said that only a few days before Foreign Minister Gromyko 595 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,120 falsely assured him that Russia had put no rockets on Cuba. 596 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,960 Photographic proof to the contrary was soon in the President's hands. 597 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,240 It was going to happen at three o'clock one afternoon, 598 00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:23,520 they were going to drop the bomb or...there was going to be 599 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:28,760 some kind of, you know, major global event, and I remember... 600 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,840 we had a rugger match... HE LAUGHS 601 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,400 ..that day... 602 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,440 and the teams, we ran out onto the pitch 603 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,480 and we all stood looking towards the west 604 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:47,480 to see if there was going to be some kind of major sort of orange explosion in the sky or something. 605 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,240 So we were very aware of it, cos CND, 606 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:55,160 the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, were so active in those days, 607 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,360 and in Northampton, where I lived, there were a lot of demonstrations 608 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,720 in the centre of town, so, yeah, we were very aware of it. 609 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,800 I was in Hamburg when that happened. 610 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,760 I remember that very strongly, cos we all had a bit...do-do... 611 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,640 World War Three here we come. And we were there with our band. 612 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,680 And Kingsize Taylor had just left. 613 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:21,280 But his roadie, John Fanning, had stayed to work in the Star Club 614 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,840 and he had his bags packed ready to come home! 615 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,400 He said, "Oh, no, I'm going." We said, "Nah, stay." 616 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,600 We said, "Well, by 12 o'clock tonight we'll know, one way or the other." 617 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,400 We said, "Right. Two more bottles of whisky, please," 618 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,720 and we just carried on drinking! 619 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:43,960 So, if World War Three would have happened, we wouldn't have known! 620 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,920 - NEWSREEL: - American warships blockaded Cuba and Russia took the missiles away. 621 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,440 The Kremlin bluff was called 622 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,040 and, for that, 1962 hailed President Kennedy as Man of the Year. 623 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:08,040 Now, some people say you can trace the moment when the '60s began to swing back to August '62. 624 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,040 Birth-control pills are finally available for widespread use in Britain. 625 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,960 It will be the start of a sexual revolution that empowered women for the first time. 626 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,240 Ironically, John Lennon's girlfriend Cynthia Powell was pregnant. 627 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:24,400 They secretly marry in what John called his shotgun wedding. 628 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,720 There must have been something in the water in 1962 629 00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:31,440 because it was a record-breaking year for pregnancies. 630 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,320 484,000 births were recorded. 631 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,600 It was the biggest baby boom since the war. 632 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,320 A third of all births were delivered at home. 633 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,440 In 1962, to have an illegitimate child was socially 634 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,960 one of the worst things that could happen to a young woman. 635 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,920 Well, in those days, you know, if you look at the records, I think, 636 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,800 there was...quite a few girls who were having babies out of wedlock, 637 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,480 as it was called in...well, it's still called that, obviously. 638 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:04,960 But, erm... And it was all kept quiet and a lot of those babies, erm... 639 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,440 you know, er, they...they didn't keep, you know. 640 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:15,800 Er...I know personally of three of four...babies, 641 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,160 and roughly that period as well, actually, '62, '63. 642 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,080 Erm, so obviously it was sinful, 643 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,280 looked upon as sinful to have a baby out of wedlock. 644 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,960 And, as John says, he did the right thing marrying Cynthia. 645 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,600 When...John and Cynthia married it was a bit of a shotgun wedding, 646 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,400 which... 647 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,400 Yeah, some people were surprised, but...I suppose at the time 648 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,320 in Liverpool there was quite a few shotgun weddings then. 649 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,640 And...I think everybody just wished them luck and love 650 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,120 and everything else, and it...wasn't a big deal. 651 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,800 We were far more progressive in Liverpool 652 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,080 than the rest of the world, you see. 653 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:13,320 Epstein brought the Beatles' communication shutters down in a bid to keep John's marriage secret. 654 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,440 Elsewhere, it was good to talk, 655 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,920 as a new television satellite brought the world a little closer. 656 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,600 MUSIC: "Telstar" by the Tornados 657 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,080 - NEWSREEL: - At the controls, the Post Office engineers directed the aerial 658 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,240 in line with a signal from Telstar 659 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:39,120 more than 2,000 miles out over the Atlantic. 660 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,880 Captain Booth and his team were happy men. 661 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,200 A few more Telstars in orbit 662 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,200 and we could have all-round-the-clock world TV. 663 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:05,600 I still remember now the old sort of hazy black-and-white pictures of... 664 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,840 with Raymond Baxter, erm.... standing by the screen 665 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,120 hoping to get some kind of signal from the satellite, 666 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,400 which hazily, eventually, did come through. 667 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,920 You know, so this was an absolutely massive event, you know, 668 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,840 a satellite arcing round the Earth sending pictures back. 669 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,480 You know, this was revolutionary stuff. 670 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,200 And of course...Telstar provided a massive hit. 671 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,880 You know, the Tornados, Joe Meek. 672 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,560 It was a brilliant record and it was the first single by a British band 673 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,320 ever to top the American charts. 674 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,080 That was in '62. 675 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,000 Just three weeks after Pete Best's sacking, the Beatles, 676 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,840 with new drummer Ringo, went into Abbey Road Studios on September 4th 677 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,520 to record with George Martin. 678 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,600 It should have been their moment of triumph. It wasn't. 679 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,680 To find out why, we travelled to a small town near New York. 680 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,200 Andy White lives here now. 681 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,600 He's 82, and was one of the world's top session drummers 682 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:26,800 back in the 1960s. 683 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,080 Ironically, George Martin wasn't happy with Ringo's drumming either, 684 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,280 so a week later, on September 11th, 685 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:37,320 the call went out to Andy to bring his drums to Abbey Road. 686 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,760 Well, the strange thing was that... 687 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,960 it wasn't George Martin who booked me. 688 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,880 It was a guy called Ron Richards. And, er... 689 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,400 ..what happened was that George couldn't make this session, 690 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,960 George Martin. 691 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:04,600 He couldn't get there till the end, so he had Ron Richards...handle it. 692 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:05,720 See? 693 00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:10,120 And meanwhile they'd had, er...Pete Best do... 694 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,960 you know, have a go at the songs, 695 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,160 and then Ringo, and they didn't... 696 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:22,480 ..exactly know what was wrong, you know, but it just didn't feel right. 697 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:27,080 When he walked in, he says Ringo was standing there like a spare part. 698 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,400 Someone gave him a tambourine to play while Andy took over on drums. 699 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,040 It was OK. He didn't really say anything. You know. 700 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,120 In fact, I hardly spoke to him. 701 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,160 I said hello when we were introduced and that was about it. 702 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,840 First of all, they weren't working from music. 703 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,920 The stuff had been done, the music had been done by Paul and John. 704 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:58,040 So they were the main characters in the recording studio, for me. 705 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,120 Because they knew what they wanted. 706 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,880 You know, what sort of beat they wanted. 707 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,920 And, er...what I was trying to do with the bass drum 708 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,200 was follow Paul's pattern, 709 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,840 the same pattern on the bass drum, you know, to enhance it. 710 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,960 The technology of the recording process 711 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,960 was so different in those days. 712 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,920 I mean, you were basically going from floor to tape, mixed, 713 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,720 that was it. 714 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:32,360 You know, through perhaps a maximum of a four-track recording desk. 715 00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,520 So you were basically recording a live performance in the studio. That was it. 716 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:41,040 And maybe you could put a bit of overdubbing on one of the channels 717 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,680 for an extra vocal or whatever it was, 718 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,680 but basically, therefore, the band is coming in, they're setting up, 719 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,120 they're playing live and you're recording that moment. 720 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,760 And, OK, so that take didn't...quite work, 721 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,960 so the band just played the song through again and you'd record that. 722 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,840 And then that didn't quite, so they'd play it through again. 723 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,760 So you've got a whole number of different takes, 724 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,400 but they're complete, and then you choose which is the best one, 725 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,400 so, er, you know, you could do a single... 726 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,600 You'd expect to do three or four sides in three or four hours, 727 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,760 because that was it, you know. 728 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,520 You'd set up, the band would play, 729 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,760 the song lasted two-and-a-half minutes, you'd record it. 730 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,840 If the tape was great, "Right, do the B side, 731 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,800 "PS I Love You," "OK, here we go, one, two, three, four, boomph!" 732 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,240 You do that and that's how recordings were made in those days. 733 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:33,160 The first one we did was, er... Love Me Do. 734 00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:42,440 And then we did PS I Love You and we did a version of, erm, 735 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,440 Please Please Me. 736 00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:48,960 So I did three titles that day... 737 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,840 ..in three hours. 738 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,280 Andy's brief brush with fame was rewarded 739 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,480 with a payment of five pounds for the session 740 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,600 and ten shillings to cover bringing his drums in. 741 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,880 The difference between the early Pete Best demo version 742 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,840 and Andy's Love Me Do is quite distinct. 743 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,680 It's amazing when you compare the two versions of Love Me Do 744 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,960 because the single that was actually released is pretty meaty. 745 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,280 It's got a lot of punch to it, 746 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,320 but the original version doesn't really have that if you listen to this for a second. 747 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,720 SLOW INTRO TO "Love Me Do" 748 00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:25,320 OK, this was the way that it was originally done... 749 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,320 ..and it sounds OK, you know, it's, er... 750 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:34,720 but it doesn't sound special, I don't think, in any way. 751 00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:37,440 # Love, love me do... # 752 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,600 It's all pretty flat and OK... 753 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,480 if I just stop that for a second 754 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,560 and now listen to the version that was actually released as a single. 755 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,240 JAUNTY INTRO TO "Love Me Do" 756 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:49,560 Instantly, you know, it's got more punch, 757 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,720 it's got more bottom ends, it's got more drive, 758 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:58,600 and then when the lyrics... when the vocals come in, it's more conviction.. 759 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,640 # Love, love me do... # 760 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,040 See, they mean it now. 761 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,640 # You know I love you... # 762 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,680 So...you wouldn't think, would you, 763 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:12,640 that there'd be that huge difference, but there is? 764 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:17,680 # Love me do... Whoa-oa, love me do... # 765 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,760 I heard them playing it and I thought it was crap. 766 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,960 I said, "I don't like that song." 767 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,400 And then they said, "Well, it's going to be our first record." 768 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,960 I said, "Oh, you can do better than that. 769 00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,280 For me, at the time, it just didn't stand out as a great song and... 770 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:38,560 I don't know, to this day, I still don't particularly like the song. 771 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:39,840 I remember buying it. 772 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,560 I didn't have a record player 773 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,800 but I wanted it to get in the charts. 774 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,520 I think the whole of Liverpool bought Love Me Do, 775 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,760 but I actually preferred the B side, 776 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,000 because I used to like them playing... 777 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,800 I remember them playing that a lot, 778 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,520 PS I Love You, and I liked that and I couldn't understand 779 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,920 why that wasn't on the A side. 780 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,160 It got into the charts, I think, at 17, 781 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,000 and we were all very pleased about that. 782 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,120 And they were offered How Do You Do It? 783 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,840 They didn't want it, so we took it and it got to Number One, 784 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,480 so they weren't too happy about that, 785 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,480 and the next record, Please Please Me, 786 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,760 was the best one I think they've ever made. 787 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,920 Great song, which, of course, went to Number One. Fabulous song. 788 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,400 George Martin ended up with three versions of Love Me Do - 789 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,200 Pete's, Ringo's and Andy's. 790 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:32,880 The Ringo version made the charts here 791 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,600 but Martin preferred Andy's track 792 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:39,200 and it was later released abroad and went to Number One in America. 793 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,720 Andy also plays on the B side, PS I Love You, 794 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:45,160 and he now claims he was actually the drummer on one 795 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,160 of the Beatles' biggest hits, Please Please me. 796 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:53,200 From the drum sound, I can tell that it's...that I was on it, you know... 797 00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:01,960 ..because it was a vastly different sound to Ringo's drum set at that time. 798 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,080 This is before he got the Ludwig kit. 799 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:12,240 Each drummer gets an individual sound, er...first of all 800 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:16,760 by the way they tune the drums and then by the way they play the drums. 801 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,120 So that's what I recognise, the sound of the drums 802 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,840 and the way that it was played. 803 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,640 It's one of the more intriguing Beatle mysteries - for Ringo, 804 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,440 there would be a lifetime of fame, for Andy, years of obscurity. 805 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,200 But for a moment in 1962, he can look back and say... 806 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,880 It was John, Paul, George and Andy - me - 807 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,440 not Ringo. 808 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,840 The irony is not lost on Pete Best. 809 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,400 It was a little bit like I was imagining to myself 810 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,840 and I had a bright grin on my face when I heard about it. 811 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,680 I can imagine Ritchie going down there and Ringo, 812 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,920 sort of like, "I'm the new drummer, right, listen to me. 813 00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,920 "I'm going to knock Pete into a cocked hat." Same thing happened to him. 814 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,600 Right? It was very much a case of 815 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,360 "Hear you, don't like what I'm hearing, 816 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,040 "so I'm going to get Andy White anyway." 817 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,960 And, of course, when it came back 818 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:16,640 and it became public knowledge that Andy had actually recorded on Love Me Do and PS I Love You 819 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,040 and on quite a few other little bits and pieces 820 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,280 it was a little bit like, "Well, as far as I'm concerned, serves you right." 821 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,400 You know. Er... 822 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:30,000 It was a little bit like, well, thank you for small mercies. 823 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,480 This is the living room where Paul would have listened to 824 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,520 his dad Jim McCartney's collection of records 825 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,920 by the likes of David Whitfield and Mario Lanza and Mantovani. 826 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,440 And in 1962 he added proudly to that collection with one of his own. 827 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,440 Love Me Do by the Beatles, Parlophone Records, R4949. 828 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:07,000 And after all the tears and heartache and intrigue, 829 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,120 Brian Epstein was not going to let this not be a hit. 830 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,800 # Love, love me do 831 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,400 # You know I love you 832 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,840 # I'll always be true 833 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,200 # So please 834 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,560 # Love me do 835 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,600 # Whoa, love me do... # 836 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,080 Rumours have always circulated that Brian Epstein rigged the charts 837 00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,640 to ensure the Beatles had a hit record. 838 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,120 The best thing was, it came to the charts in two days. 839 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,600 And everybody thought it was a fiddle 840 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:50,000 because our manager's stores send in...these, what is it, record things? 841 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,400 - Returns. - Returns. 842 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:58,080 And everybody down south thought, "Oh, he's buying them himself or he's just fiddling the charts," you know. 843 00:51:58,080 --> 00:51:59,560 But he wasn't. 844 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:04,040 You could buy a certain amount of records 845 00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,440 and know that that's the chance it got to get in the charts. 846 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,680 Well, Brian had a golden opportunity because he had friends 847 00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:17,240 in the business who was buying and selling records at the same time. 848 00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:19,640 And he knew the shops to put them in. 849 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:26,040 And he went and he bought ten thousand copies of, er, Love Me Do. 850 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,040 And that was in his storeroom in, er, Whitechapel, 851 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,080 because I've seen them, they were there, ten thousand copies. 852 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,920 I said, "My God, Brian, what are you going to do with those?" He said, "Don't worry, they'll sell. 853 00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,080 "When we get them in the charts they'll be in demand." 854 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,480 And, er... He was very... 855 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,360 He was so enthusiastic about the Beatles that, 856 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:52,400 you know...he knew in his head that, er, they were going to be big. 857 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,160 I remember Brian Epstein, 858 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,240 because he was more or less managing us at the same time, er... 859 00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:02,240 and he found out that we were, you know, on tour, he'd look at our gigs. 860 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:05,600 Oh, we're playing Sheffield or we're playing Manchester. 861 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:06,960 Erm... 862 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,040 "Well, OK, will you just go into this record shop and buy a few copies? 863 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,600 "Don't all go in at the same time, you know." Which we did. 864 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:18,720 So I like to think that we did help the Beatles, er, get to number 17. 865 00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:21,800 If he did that with all his bands, the Dakotas, 866 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,280 Gerry and the Pacemakers, the Big Three, the Fourmost, Cilla... 867 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,640 You know, they must have been buying 'em. 868 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,760 Brian was very shrewd and he... he helped by being such a gentleman. 869 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,720 Everybody loved Brian, the style he had, 870 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:40,000 so if he spent ten grand, God bless him, it worked. 871 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,480 I don't know how much he spent on me but I got three number ones. 872 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,960 Thank you, Brian! God bless you, son. 873 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,000 For Brian, the means certainly justified the end result. 874 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,560 Love Me Do made a brief appearance at number 17 in the charts. 875 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,160 It dropped out after a couple of weeks 876 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,960 but it was a crucial breakthrough. 877 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,440 It gave the Beatles the credibility they needed. 878 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,520 I think, you know, to put into context its importance, if you like, 879 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,480 you have to kind of then wind the clock forward by 16 months or so, 880 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:12,320 to February 1964, when the Beatles appeared on the Ed Sullivan Show. 881 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,240 Now, bearing in mind that prior to that America hadn't really 882 00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:17,200 been that aware of the Beatles. 883 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,640 And then suddenly they exploded into the States in that way. 884 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:26,560 And all the records they'd put out so far then burst into the charts together. 885 00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:31,680 So the Beatles had the whole of the top five of the Billboard charts by about May that year, 886 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,000 they had 14 singles in the Billboard Hot 100, 887 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:39,880 and among those records Love Me Do went to number one. 888 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,400 MUSIC: "Please Please Me" by the Beatles 889 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:52,000 # Last night I said these words to my girl 890 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,160 # I know you never even tried, girl... # 891 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,520 So how should we remember 1962? 892 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,040 Perhaps it's best to hear from those who were there. 893 00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,120 '62 was a year of highs and lows. You know. 894 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,720 Erm...but a year which still sticks in my memory. You know. 895 00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:13,400 It's 50 years ago, even though it doesn't seem it. 896 00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,000 It never does. 897 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,760 But, yeah, it was a year full of high aspirations, dreams, 898 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,880 dreams were shattered and you rebuilt new dreams. 899 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,640 I'm just so glad I was a teenager in the '60s, in 1962, 900 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,800 the start of everything. 901 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,320 I think that was the best era to be a teenager. 902 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:36,280 I wouldn't like to be a teenager now, or any other decade. 903 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,680 I mean, it was just so exciting, the '60s. It opened everything. 904 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,560 Especially for girls. 905 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,680 My thoughts on '62. It was certainly a year that changed my life. 906 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,040 It changed a lot of people's lives in Liverpool, 907 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,440 and indeed the world, because of what happened in Liverpool in 1962. 908 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:55,920 People say, "Ah, do you remember the '60s? Sex, drugs and rock'n'roll." 909 00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,160 Well, cos Rory was me brother I only remember the rock'n'roll, sadly. 910 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,000 Cos he went everywhere with me! 911 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,760 But it was a great time, and we didn't know that we were 912 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:10,200 going to be such a big part of history. Nobody knew. 913 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:15,800 We...we were all just people just growing and...and starting to find 914 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,360 a freedom that youth hadn't had for...for ever. 915 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,320 It's all a bit of history now, an ordinary year that became 916 00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,880 a little bit extraordinary and started a wonderful legacy. 917 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,480 Beatlemania was here to stay. 918 00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,440 Will we still be talking about them in another 50 years? I think so. 919 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,280 But even the Beatles can't have known what they were starting 920 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,440 back in Liverpool in 1962 or how long it would last, 921 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:45,960 as they took us all on a journey to the toppermost of the poppermost. 922 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:51,600 The people demand that you think, how long are you going to last? 923 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,240 Well, you can't say. 924 00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:56,640 You can be big-headed and say, "Yeah, we're going to last ten years," 925 00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:00,760 but as soon as you've said that you think, we're lucky if we last three months. 926 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:06,120 Well, obviously we can't keep playing the same sort of music until we're about 40 927 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:11,080 Old men playing From Me To You, nobody's going to want to know, about that sort of thing. 928 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:14,600 So, you know, we've thought about it 929 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:19,640 and probably the thing that John and I will do will be write songs, 930 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,640 as we have been doing as a sort of sideline now. 931 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,640 We'll probably develop that a bit more...we hope. 932 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,240 Who knows, at 40 we may not know how to write songs any more. 933 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:33,920 I hope to have enough money to go into a business of my own 934 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,480 by the time we...erm... 935 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,400 ..do flop. LAUGHTER 936 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,520 And, erm... I mean, we don't know, it may be next week, 937 00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:47,040 it may be two or three years, but I think we'll be in the business, 938 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:51,400 either up there or down there, for at least another four years. 939 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,280 I've always fancied having a ladies' hairdressing salon, you know, 940 00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,320 a string of them in fact. 941 00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:01,840 And trot round in me stripes and me tails, you know, "Would you like a cup of tea, madam?" 942 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,920 MUSIC: "Love Me Do" by the Beatles 943 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,640 # Love, love me do 944 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,360 # You know I love you 945 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,160 # I'll always be true 946 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,600 # So please 947 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,600 # Love me do 948 00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,520 # Whoa, love me do 949 00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,480 # Yeah, love me do 950 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,840 # Whoa, love me do... # 951 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,000 Subtitles by Red Bee Media Ltd 84668

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