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♪ ♪
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Tonight, Lux is visiting
one of Hollywood's most
exciting new stars,
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Jane Fonda.
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Jane's been using Lux--
How long, Jane?
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Ever since my first roles
in summer stock,
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I could see that a star
just had to have
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a really lovely complexion.
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Bennett Cerf:
Might I assume that
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you are a, uh,
very lovely lady?
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-John Daly: That you may.
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Dildano:
Well, will you
join our cause?
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What cause?
Who are you?
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The woman in the helmet is
Jane Fonda, the actress.
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Actress Jane Fonda was arrested
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today at the airport
in Cleveland.
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The Justice Department said
it is attempting to determine
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whether Ms. Fonda
had violated
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sedition, treason
or other statutes.
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Any healthy country,
like any healthy individual,
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should be
in perpetual revolution,
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perpetual change.
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Phil Donahue:
You just may be the most
talked about personality
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in the country today.
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There's a lot of, uh,
hostility towards you.
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Ah! The winner is
Jane Fonda in Coming Home.
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Johnny Carson:
My first guest tonight is
a gal that I admire highly.
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Funny thing how people
who were called radicals
at the time
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now are considered right-on.
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Jane Fonda:
You have to have
the courage to speak
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about the changes
that are needed
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and it includes challenging,
at the root,
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the corporate power
that has taken over
the economy of this country.
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Lesley Stahl:
You turn around
and marry a billionaire.
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How do you go
from one to the other
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without completely losing
yourself somewhere in there?
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Ow!
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Hairstylist:
Sorry.
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To drink or not to drink.
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I think I'll drink.
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The problem is
they only serve wine.
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Oh, really?
They're not doing--
They don't do champagne?
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I-I don't drink champagne.
I don't drink wine.
I drink vodka.
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Well, maybe they can--
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-I'll have to bribe somebody.
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Jane:
You know the two times
that I won an Oscar,
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I did my own hair and makeup.
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You're kidding?
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When I picked up
the Oscar for my dad...
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it looked like
the Lindbergh baby
was hidden in my hair.
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-It's, it's that hair there.
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I mean, it was the '80s,
just to be fair to myself.
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Okay, Fonda, keep your chin up.
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-It's Jane Fonda!
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Photographer:
Ms. Fonda, that--
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Yeah, could we have
one smile this way?
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One smile?
Thank you.
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Lily Tomlin: Has
Vanity Fair been published?
-Jane: Yes.
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-Yes, and I'm on the cover.
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Aw. Yeah, I wouldn't get
on the cover.
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I never thought...
I'd never have thought
that I would ever--
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Were they Hollywood women?
Is that it?
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-It was called
the Year of the Woman--
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-Not even from Hollywood.
-It was.
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-Irish.
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-Yeah.
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Oh, same old--
Helen Mirren?
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-Yes.
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-They took me out
and put you in.
-Yeah, they did.
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Lily:
They aced me out.
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-Jane: It went from
21-year-old Saoirse...
-Lily: This is your fault.
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...to 78-year-old me.
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Yeah.
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-Well, that's no big deal.
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After 53 years of friendship
and 11 films together,
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you don't think I'm gonna start
to bullshit you now, do you?
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-No, I don't!
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I wouldn't deserve that.
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That's right.
You don't deserve it.
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You deserve me to call
a spade a spade,
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which is why I dragged
my ass here from LA.
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Look, Brenda,
if it's about scene 21,
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where you're described
as "ugly,"
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"feeble," uh, "a pale shadow
of your former beauty."
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Please, realize
that's just poetic license.
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You still preserve intact.
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You have to.
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That mystery, that allure
you had when you first
became a diva.
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Dinah Shore:
When you were
little lady Jane Fonda,
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up on Tigertail Road...
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did you dream about
being an actress?
Did you wanna be?
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Did I want to be an actress?
No, not until I was, uh,
well into my 20s.
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-I-I didn't, um...
'Cause
you were so--
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-I think when you grow up
in the industry...
-Mm-hmm.
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...and you see, uh,
what the people are
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-really like
behind their masks...
-Mm-hm.
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...you know,
you're not too encouraged
to become an actor.
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Jane:
I grew up in the shadow
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of a national monument.
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Wait a minute, buddy.
You just done some jackassin'.
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You can't shut up now.
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The handbill said
they need 800 pickers,
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you laugh and say
they don't.
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Which one's the liar?
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Jane:
My dad, his values,
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you know, solid American...
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Midwestern values:
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fairness, equality, justice.
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Stand up for the underdog,
and that's why he gravitated
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to characters like Tom Joad
in Grapes of Wrath,
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and The Ox-Bow Incident,
which was about a lynching
and racism.
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12 Angry Men , I mean,
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without him ever saying so,
I knew that these movies
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expressed what he could
never say verbally.
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He was the face
of the America that...
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people wanted to believe in.
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I was Henry Fonda's daughter,
which, of course, meant
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that I was polite,
I was nice...
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...I was
the girl next door.
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All the things
that I didn't feel I was.
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I didn't like my body.
I didn't like myself. I...
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I felt shy.
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We looked like
the American Dream.
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Rich, beautiful,
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close...
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but a lot of it
was simply myth.
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This is the summer
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when I was 11.
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It was staged
for some magazine,
I don't remember which one.
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Then there's my brother,
Peter, and my mother.
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She had been in and out
of institutions by that time,
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and when I look at her face,
I can see the anxiety
and the stress,
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and it makes me
very, very sad.
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I didn't know why,
but I had an aversion to her.
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My team is the winning team,
my team is the man,
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my dad.
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And you can tell
he is not present at all.
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He was having an affair
with a far younger woman.
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Family picnic.
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To me, that is a very...
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sad picture.
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It says it all.
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Jane: I was alone
a lot growing up.
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I spent all my time
roaming the hills.
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I wanted to be Tonto.
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In those days, when you
really became somebody,
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it meant that you were...
independent,
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you didn't need anybody.
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But then I'd look
into the windows of houses
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where people were sitting
at the table...
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and I remember,
it would bring up a feeling
of longing in me.
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And I figured,
whatever it is that creates
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that thing
that I'm looking at,
that warm...
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glow of light,
people laughing and talking,
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that will never be mine.
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Mr. Austin:
Henry Fonda,
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we name you
Stage Father of 1952.
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Here is your medal
and my heartiest
congratulations.
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Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Austin.
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I feel very honored.
I just hope that
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my Jane and Peter
are gonna be properly impressed.
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Jane:
He was a hero
to so many people.
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But...
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these kind of men
aren't always good fathers.
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It's hard to be both.
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I wanted to please dad.
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Who would you like me to be?
I'll do whatever you want,
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'cause I want you
to love me.
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Peter was the opposite.
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If he was scared,
he'd cried.
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If he was angry with dad,
he'd show it.
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And it was
really hard on Peter.
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He had it way harder than me.
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Peter Fonda:
It's more difficult for Jane
than it is for me, actually.
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You see, it's not that he wasn't
or isn't a loving person at all.
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He just... has no character
with a script that says,
"Henry Fonda:
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Fonda says, 'I love you son,'"
and he would be able to
handle it.
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Without that script,
he's got nothing to do.
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I mean, he has to have the mask
in order to express.
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Jane has no way to attach
herself to Henry.
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She's lost out there
as his daughter.
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Jane:
I was 20, maybe 21,
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still living
at my father's house
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on the beach in Malibu.
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My stepmother had
given me an ultimatum:
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"Come fall, you have to move
out of the house."
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What was I gonna do?
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A quarter-mile down the beach
was Lee Strasberg's house.
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He was the great acting coach.
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He taught people like
Paul Newman and James Dean,
and, of course, Marilyn Monroe.
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I walked down the beach,
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took off my high-heeled shoes
to walk in the sand.
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I knocked on the back door
after having put my shoes
back on.
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He let me in.
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He later said,
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"She seemed to be the most
boring, conventional girl...
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"except when I looked
into her eyes,
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there was a lot hidden."
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And he took me
into his class.
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Lee taught us
to... dive deep
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into your own psyche,
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private moments,
sensory memories,
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to bring a deeper life
to your character.
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♪ ♪
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I was so scared.
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I sat in the back.
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I would've been happy
if I never ended up
performing in that class.
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Eventually, after
about two months,
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Lee said, "Okay.
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"You know, tomorrow
you're gonna do it."
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The class was
fuller than usual.
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I think they wanted
to come see
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Henry Fonda's daughter
fall on her face.
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And then I remember
when I was through,
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Lee was silent
for a long time.
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And then he said, "You know,
I see a lot of people
come through here.
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You have real talent."
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I swear...
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it was like someone had opened
the top of my head
and birds flew out.
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Man:
Everyone off the steps.
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Jane:
Diane?
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-Jane: I can't stand it!
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Jane:
The first time you really
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discover something you love,
organically love to do,
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you go to sleep loving it,
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and you wake up and you love it,
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and you don't have to think
about it,
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and you don't mind
staying home alone at night
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because you've got this thing
that you really love to do.
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Charles Colllingwood:
Jane Fonda
decided to follow
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the well-known path trod
by her distinguished father,
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actor Henry Fonda.
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Jane worked as
a photographer's model
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to earn a living
while she mastered the art.
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-Hello, Jane.
-Hello, Charlie.
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I think that we caught
you just moving
into this apartment.
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You certainly did.
255
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Jane, do you think
it's important for a girl
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starting out to be
on her own,
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to have her own apartment
like this?
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Well, I think, uh...
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it helps, I think,
to be away from the family,
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particularly for me.
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You know, if a child
and the parent
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work in the same business,
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it's uh, you feel more
independent, you know.
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I feel...
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I don't have to always
be explaining what I'm doing
and everything like that.
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-Uh, you're--
- I hope my father's
not listening to this.
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He probably is.
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Jane:
I had this
instantaneous career.
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I was doing plays
on Broadway.
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I was making movies
in Hollywood.
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I was nominated for a Tony
and won the New York Drama
Critics' Circle Award
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for the most promising actress
of the year for drama.
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Well, it says outside
that-- that Brad and I
are starring in the show,
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you know, and that's one
of the reasons that people
are coming.
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But I don't feel...
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I don't feel that I can...
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quite live up to that,
you know?
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It's a funny feeling.
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Jane: During
that period of time,
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I was asked to audition,
for Kazan,
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for the female lead in
Splendor in the Grass that
Natalie Wood ended up doing.
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It was in a theater, and Kazan
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called me down to the footlights
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and-- and he was standing below
and he looked up at me,
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and he said,
"Are you ambitious?"
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And I said, "No!"
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Talk about self-betrayal.
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I just wanted to be okay.
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I wanted to be a good girl.
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A good girl
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is not an ambitious person.
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Jane: I got hired
for a whole string
of girl next door,
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ingénues,
and I became the actor
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that would get the light,
romantic comedies
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that would start as plays
on Broadway and then they'd
be made into films.
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Ralph:
She's already
made him a sissy.
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George:
Oh man,
that do it every time.
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-Mm-hmm.
-She'll be back tomorrow,
at the latest.
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-Well, let 'em.
300
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George, will you please
get my little blue zipper bag?
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Please?
302
00:18:47,609 --> 00:18:49,069
You know what
I had in mind?
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-Hong Kong.
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: All right!
I'll get it myself!
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-I'll go out
and get it myself!
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♪ ♪
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Jane: You know,
and I was, okay at it.
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I was all right.
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Oh, ow!
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I knew how to talk
kind of high
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and blink my eyes and...
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♪ ♪
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Whoa.
314
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This is the Plaza Hotel, please.
315
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Plaza. Corie, it's the Plaza.
316
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,529
Wait a minute,
I'm not finished.
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Corie, the man is waiting,
waiting.
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Give him a big tip.
319
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Paul, tell me
you're not sorry
we got married.
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00:19:33,819 --> 00:19:36,609
After 40 minutes?
Let's give it
a couple of hours first.
321
00:19:36,690 --> 00:19:40,609
Paul, if the honeymoon
doesn't work out,
let's not get divorced,
322
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let's kill each other.
323
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Let's have one
of the maids do it.
324
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I hear the service here
is wonderful.
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♪ ♪
326
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Sometimes you just find
yourself in sync,
327
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and that happened
from the very beginning
with Jane.
328
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There was just something that,
329
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that naturally developed
between us.
330
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There was a chemistry
that just was there,
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and it was also fun.
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♪ ♪
333
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She saw the humor in things,
334
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but at the same time,
335
00:20:09,569 --> 00:20:12,779
she shared her insecurities
and her doubts.
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♪ ♪
337
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In our friendship,
we've been very honest
with each other
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about our angers,
our frustrations.
339
00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:25,019
And, at a certain point,
Jane just had an instinct
that said,
340
00:20:25,109 --> 00:20:28,279
"Down deep,
there's something missing."
341
00:20:30,069 --> 00:20:32,200
Jane:
A lot of other people
were defining me,
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all of them men.
343
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I never felt real.
344
00:20:38,650 --> 00:20:43,029
I just thought,
"I've got to get out from
under my father's shadow.
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"Maybe if I go to France
during the new wave period,
346
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,529
"I will...
347
00:20:49,609 --> 00:20:51,529
find who I really am."
348
00:20:51,609 --> 00:20:56,400
I was always in search
of some per-- somebody
that was real in there.
349
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♪ ♪
350
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♪ ♪
351
00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:27,660
Jane:
One night, when
I first arrived in Paris,
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I was at Maxim's
with a group of actors,
353
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,859
and Roger Vadim walked in.
354
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,019
I knew that
he had a reputation.
355
00:22:39,109 --> 00:22:43,440
He had been married
to Brigitte Bardot and he'd had
a child with Catherine Deneuve.
356
00:22:43,529 --> 00:22:47,779
He had already directed
And God Created Woman.
357
00:22:47,859 --> 00:22:50,029
He was a rock star.
358
00:22:51,109 --> 00:22:53,690
He walked in,
and I immediately felt
359
00:22:53,779 --> 00:22:55,319
endangered.
360
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,529
He felt predatory,
361
00:22:57,609 --> 00:22:59,779
but charming,
362
00:22:59,859 --> 00:23:01,650
sexy.
363
00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:03,450
♪ ♪
364
00:23:06,740 --> 00:23:09,990
I promised myself,
"I will never make a movie
365
00:23:10,069 --> 00:23:12,150
with Roger Vadim."
366
00:23:30,069 --> 00:23:32,819
Jane:
I was making
the Rene Clement movie
367
00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:34,400
called Les Felins .
368
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,980
♪ ♪
369
00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:38,480
Why are you looking
at me like that?
370
00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:42,190
Am I attractive to you?
371
00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:44,029
I had just done a scene
372
00:23:44,109 --> 00:23:47,359
where I'm in a teddy, you know,
a little underwear,
373
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,019
and, uh, I-- I got a...
374
00:23:50,109 --> 00:23:53,900
message that Vadim
was in the canteen
and-- and wanted to see me.
375
00:23:53,980 --> 00:23:55,650
♪ ♪
376
00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:59,240
I realized that I was
excited to see him.
377
00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:02,740
I threw on my trench coat,
378
00:24:02,819 --> 00:24:04,740
and as I ran
into the canteen,
379
00:24:04,819 --> 00:24:08,240
the trench coat blew open.
380
00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:10,779
♪ ♪
381
00:24:10,859 --> 00:24:14,150
And that night,
we went back to my hotel.
382
00:24:14,940 --> 00:24:18,109
He didn't speak
very good English.
383
00:24:18,190 --> 00:24:21,400
Maybe if he had,
I'd never have married him.
384
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,150
♪ ♪
385
00:24:24,529 --> 00:24:27,200
You know,
Vadim's so charismatic,
386
00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:30,819
so utterly seductive
and charming.
387
00:24:32,819 --> 00:24:35,279
You walked down
the Champs-Élysées
with Vadim,
388
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,109
it was like walking
down the street
with Robert Redford.
389
00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:39,109
I mean,
people would like...
390
00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:41,859
They'd freak
and ask for
his autograph, and...
391
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,150
Our life together was heady
and, um, slightly hedonistic.
392
00:24:50,690 --> 00:24:53,269
But then there was this
old shoe quality to him,
393
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,400
it was this
comfortable part of him.
394
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,019
Nathalie!
395
00:24:57,529 --> 00:25:00,569
Jane:
He'd cross town to see
his daughter every day.
396
00:25:01,190 --> 00:25:02,569
Aww.
397
00:25:03,980 --> 00:25:05,230
Oh.
398
00:25:05,319 --> 00:25:07,359
♪ ♪
399
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,059
Nathalie Vadim:
Jane came into my life
when I was three.
400
00:25:11,150 --> 00:25:13,230
She looked very young,
I remember that.
401
00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:14,700
Younger than she was.
402
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,319
I would see
my biological mother rarely.
403
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,109
And Jane was always there.
404
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:24,230
And so I became
really close to her.
405
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,569
She became my surrogate mother,
basically,
406
00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:32,400
and the person who--
who raised me.
407
00:25:34,069 --> 00:25:38,029
Jane: We moved
into a farmhouse that
I bought outside of Paris.
408
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:41,450
There was something
so appealing to me
409
00:25:41,529 --> 00:25:44,069
about putting down roots.
410
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,690
I saw myself
411
00:25:46,779 --> 00:25:49,109
being married
and having a family
412
00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:50,859
and living in France.
413
00:25:52,569 --> 00:25:53,940
Well,
414
00:25:54,029 --> 00:25:58,069
Vadim was
so full of contradictions.
415
00:25:58,150 --> 00:26:01,609
There were a lot of issues
that I just chose not to see.
416
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:07,730
I didn't know what compulsive
gambling was or alcoholism.
417
00:26:08,980 --> 00:26:12,980
If I would complain,
he would call me bourgeois.
418
00:26:13,779 --> 00:26:17,200
Oh my God... forbid
that you would ever
be worried about money
419
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:20,319
or complain about money
or complain about
420
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,279
extramarital affairs
or anything like that.
421
00:26:24,109 --> 00:26:28,190
Nathalie:
When she finds an interest,
she's focused on it.
422
00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:32,410
At that point, that interest
was Vadim, so...
423
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,609
she became what Vadim wanted.
424
00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:37,660
Merv Griffin: Does he know
you that well, Jane?
425
00:26:37,740 --> 00:26:40,450
I think he, he knows me
better than I know me.
426
00:26:41,980 --> 00:26:45,859
Actresses are
usually quite... dumb.
427
00:26:45,940 --> 00:26:49,400
We're really quite stupid
about what we think
we can do well.
428
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,769
And it's the director
that comes along
429
00:26:51,859 --> 00:26:54,029
and makes us use muscles
we've never used before.
430
00:26:54,109 --> 00:26:56,900
Vadim...
does that all the time.
431
00:26:56,980 --> 00:26:59,940
I would say, "I can't do that,
I-- I can't play that scene."
432
00:27:00,029 --> 00:27:03,859
And he'd make me do it,
and they'd be the good scenes.
433
00:27:03,940 --> 00:27:07,900
Jane:
Here I was, trying
to not be defined by men,
434
00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:11,230
ended up with a man
who was the ultimate
435
00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:14,490
definer of femininity.
436
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,109
That's where I was at that time.
437
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:21,660
I wanted someone to mold me.
438
00:27:22,690 --> 00:27:24,150
I wanted him...
439
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:27,559
to help me become a woman.
440
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,819
♪ ♪
441
00:27:33,069 --> 00:27:38,400
Dino De Laurentiis sent me
the very famous French
comic book called, Barbarella.
442
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,650
He wanted to make a movie,
and would I play Barbarella.
443
00:27:42,690 --> 00:27:46,819
Now, I knew
that Bardot had turned it down,
Sophia Loren had turned it down,
444
00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:49,900
and I didn't want to do it.
445
00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:52,309
I mean,
I look at these pictures,
446
00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:55,319
I didn't identify
with Barbarella.
447
00:27:55,859 --> 00:27:59,069
Well, Vadim was, I think,
448
00:27:59,150 --> 00:28:03,319
probably the number one
science fiction aficionado
in the world.
449
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,359
So, when you have
a science fiction story
that's about sex...
450
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,230
there was no way
I was not gonna do this movie,
and he was going to direct it.
451
00:28:14,609 --> 00:28:16,569
♪ ♪
452
00:28:23,529 --> 00:28:27,200
Vadim wanted the film to open
with a space strip tease.
453
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:29,240
♪ ♪
454
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:33,160
He took the set
455
00:28:33,230 --> 00:28:35,269
and turned it so that
456
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,779
the opening of the set
was facing the ceiling
of the sound stage.
457
00:28:38,859 --> 00:28:42,980
Then he put a very thick
pane of glass over it,
458
00:28:43,069 --> 00:28:45,359
and then I laid on top
of the glass
459
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,569
like I was floating in space.
460
00:28:48,569 --> 00:28:51,990
♪ Barbarella psychedella ♪
461
00:28:52,069 --> 00:28:55,569
Man:
♪ Barbarella psychedella ♪
462
00:28:55,650 --> 00:29:00,980
♪ Never can a fella name
or call you ♪
463
00:29:01,069 --> 00:29:03,200
♪ Barbarella
Ba-ba-ba... ♪
464
00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:05,450
Jane: And then I had
to be naked.
465
00:29:06,980 --> 00:29:10,980
I was drunk. I drank
so much vodka to do that.
466
00:29:11,819 --> 00:29:14,819
It was so terrifying for me.
467
00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:18,109
♪ Ba-Ba-Barbarella! ♪
468
00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:23,069
And then the next morning,
we hear that a bat
469
00:29:23,150 --> 00:29:24,650
had flown...
470
00:29:24,740 --> 00:29:26,410
between me and the camera
471
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,900
that was hanging
from the ceiling.
472
00:29:27,980 --> 00:29:30,690
and spoiled the take
and we had to do it again.
473
00:29:30,779 --> 00:29:32,109
Oh, God.
474
00:29:32,190 --> 00:29:33,940
So the take that actually
got used,
475
00:29:34,029 --> 00:29:36,950
I was not only drunk,
I was hungover, too.
476
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,809
Are you typical
of Earth women?
477
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:44,279
I'm about average.
478
00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:46,650
♪ ♪
479
00:29:48,529 --> 00:29:51,410
Jane:
When I look at the movie now,
I thoroughly enjoy it.
480
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,059
I mean,
I think it's just a camp
481
00:29:54,150 --> 00:29:57,230
romp, really. I don't think
it's particularly sexy.
482
00:29:57,319 --> 00:29:58,819
♪ ♪
483
00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:04,980
I wasn't a questioner.
484
00:30:05,819 --> 00:30:08,740
Superficial can
come pretty easy to me.
485
00:30:08,819 --> 00:30:12,190
I mean, it's more convenient.
486
00:30:13,529 --> 00:30:14,859
You know, I spent...
487
00:30:16,029 --> 00:30:19,859
quite a few decades
not asking too many questions.
488
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,650
♪ ♪
489
00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:29,940
There was a time when
490
00:30:30,029 --> 00:30:31,819
I believed so strongly
491
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:34,609
that if American soldiers
were fighting somewhere,
492
00:30:34,690 --> 00:30:37,440
we had to be
on the side of the angels.
493
00:30:37,529 --> 00:30:41,319
It was inconceivable to me
that it could be otherwise.
494
00:30:42,819 --> 00:30:45,109
My father had fought
in the Second World War.
495
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:47,900
He was so proud of it,
I understood that.
496
00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:49,769
♪ ♪
497
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:53,940
I mean, I was
Miss Army Recruiter in 1959.
498
00:30:58,529 --> 00:31:01,910
I remember in 1964,
499
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,150
Vadim and I were
in St. Tropez.
500
00:31:05,230 --> 00:31:07,690
He picked up the paper,
and the headlines
501
00:31:07,779 --> 00:31:12,740
were talking about
how Congress had passed
the Tonkin Gulf Resolution.
502
00:31:16,690 --> 00:31:18,109
Vadim erupted,
503
00:31:18,190 --> 00:31:19,980
my non-political husband.
504
00:31:23,569 --> 00:31:27,240
"What are they doing?
There is no way
they can win that war."
505
00:31:28,569 --> 00:31:31,069
"Your Congress
is out of its mind."
506
00:31:31,740 --> 00:31:35,200
And I'm thinking, "Sour grapes.
Just 'cause you guys didn't win,
507
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:39,069
the French, when you fought
the Vietnamese." You know?
508
00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:42,859
That was how...
little I knew.
509
00:31:42,940 --> 00:31:44,480
♪ ♪
510
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,309
I had grown very close
to Simone Signoret.
511
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,980
She was one of the top
French movie stars.
512
00:31:55,819 --> 00:31:57,819
And she had become
an activist.
513
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,019
Artists, writers,
poets, philosophers
514
00:32:02,109 --> 00:32:05,279
were at the forefront
of activism.
515
00:32:05,980 --> 00:32:07,730
Simone de Beauvoir,
516
00:32:07,819 --> 00:32:09,609
Jean Paul Sartre.
517
00:32:11,609 --> 00:32:13,569
I didn't really move
in those circles
518
00:32:13,650 --> 00:32:15,859
with the exception
of Simone Signoret.
519
00:32:16,980 --> 00:32:18,519
She kind of...
520
00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:21,359
opened the door
a crack for me.
521
00:32:21,779 --> 00:32:23,910
But, you know,
I remember thinking,
522
00:32:23,980 --> 00:32:26,769
"I'm not as smart
as she thinks I am."
523
00:32:26,859 --> 00:32:28,279
♪ ♪
524
00:32:29,109 --> 00:32:30,690
1968.
525
00:32:32,150 --> 00:32:34,319
I was pregnant.
526
00:32:34,940 --> 00:32:37,519
I think that
when a woman is pregnant,
527
00:32:38,819 --> 00:32:42,569
more than ever,
she's like a sponge.
528
00:32:42,650 --> 00:32:48,779
Very attuned to and receptive to
what's in the ether.
529
00:32:48,859 --> 00:32:51,480
Not just around her,
but in the world.
530
00:32:54,650 --> 00:32:57,400
I'm watching on television
the Tet Offensive.
531
00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:00,779
♪ ♪
532
00:33:02,819 --> 00:33:06,450
I'm looking at
newsreel from Chicago.
533
00:33:06,529 --> 00:33:08,740
Tom Hayden:
We are going to gather here
534
00:33:08,819 --> 00:33:10,819
by any means necessary.
535
00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:15,690
The demonstrations,
the beatings, the bloodiness.
536
00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:18,519
I thought of Simone.
537
00:33:19,150 --> 00:33:20,569
I drove to her farmhouse
538
00:33:20,650 --> 00:33:22,029
out in the country.
539
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,400
And I remember, she opened
the door and she said,
540
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,150
"I've been waiting for you."
541
00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:30,900
She said, "I knew you'd come
to talk about the war."
542
00:33:30,980 --> 00:33:33,190
♪ ♪
543
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:46,779
Simone explained
to me that,
544
00:33:46,859 --> 00:33:50,279
that the Vietnamese
had been fighting
for thousands of years,
545
00:33:50,779 --> 00:33:54,410
against the Mongols,
against China.
546
00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:57,069
They had always won.
547
00:33:59,190 --> 00:34:01,190
For America to fight a war
548
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:03,859
thousands and thousands
of miles away,
549
00:34:03,940 --> 00:34:06,480
in a country
that they didn't understand,
550
00:34:06,569 --> 00:34:08,699
against a people who...
551
00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:11,530
wanted, above all else,
independence.
552
00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:17,400
There was no way
that we could win.
553
00:34:19,610 --> 00:34:22,360
You know,
it's funny, suddenly,
554
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,690
I felt, more than I ever had,
555
00:34:25,780 --> 00:34:27,239
American.
556
00:34:28,610 --> 00:34:30,820
It seems
completely contradictory,
557
00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:32,650
you know, in a few years,
558
00:34:32,739 --> 00:34:34,070
people that didn't like me
were saying,
559
00:34:34,150 --> 00:34:35,730
"Go back to Hanoi,"
and all that.
560
00:34:35,820 --> 00:34:39,239
But I felt, "No, no, no,
this is...
561
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,239
"We've taken a wrong path.
562
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,030
"I want to be with my people,
in my country,
563
00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:47,400
"and try to make this right."
564
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,480
♪ ♪
565
00:34:49,570 --> 00:34:53,110
I really, I wanted my life
to have meaning.
566
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,320
But I was married,
and I was pregnant, and...
567
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,400
Oh my gosh.
I don't know what to do.
568
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,059
I said,
I just don't know what to do.
569
00:35:05,150 --> 00:35:08,030
She realized that
570
00:35:08,110 --> 00:35:11,190
there was more to life
than just being
a housewife, actress.
571
00:35:12,030 --> 00:35:14,449
And Vadim,
although progressive,
572
00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:19,360
getting involved in politics,
and really getting involved,
was not his thing.
573
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,400
Jane:
Vanessa was born...
574
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,400
and it was a very, very,
very traumatic birth.
575
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,809
They used forceps,
and they tore me.
576
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,900
I hemorrhaged a lot.
577
00:35:31,980 --> 00:35:35,559
I was suffering
from postpartum depression.
578
00:35:35,650 --> 00:35:37,730
My milk didn't come...
579
00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:41,280
That bond that's supposed
to happen, um,
580
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,320
it just didn't.
581
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,650
I felt like I was
the bad mother,
582
00:35:46,739 --> 00:35:49,530
and I was terrified.
583
00:35:50,739 --> 00:35:54,739
It surprised me,
this feeling of fear.
584
00:35:56,190 --> 00:36:00,320
And, you know, later on,
as I look back on it,
I know why.
585
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,900
It was because...
586
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,860
It's hard to talk about. Um...
587
00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:18,610
I always saw my mother
as a victim.
588
00:36:18,690 --> 00:36:22,190
Women equals victim.
589
00:36:23,530 --> 00:36:25,530
"I am a woman,
590
00:36:25,610 --> 00:36:29,900
I am gonna be damaged,
I am gonna be crushed."
591
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,320
My mother was
a very complicated woman,
592
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,150
very, very beautiful woman,
593
00:36:41,230 --> 00:36:44,559
but she always
seemed sick.
594
00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:48,269
We'd sit in the living room,
and she'd hold my hand,
595
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,190
and her hand would be
trembling like this.
596
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,159
And...
597
00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:59,150
I didn't want her
to feel bad so I would
make my hand tremble, too.
598
00:36:59,230 --> 00:37:02,309
I mean, it was--
it was hard to figure out
599
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,610
what was happening with her.
600
00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:07,110
♪ ♪
601
00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:10,690
Poor mom.
602
00:37:10,780 --> 00:37:15,360
I think my father was not
the person she ever
should have married.
603
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,400
He was not kind to her.
604
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,980
My father went to Broadway
to do Mr. Roberts.
605
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:26,030
And so we moved
to Connecticut.
606
00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:28,989
My mother... that was
where her mental health
607
00:37:29,070 --> 00:37:31,610
was really deteriorating.
608
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,980
I didn't know it
at the time,
609
00:37:35,070 --> 00:37:37,989
but the sister
of the stage manager
610
00:37:38,820 --> 00:37:41,699
was seven years
older than me,
611
00:37:41,780 --> 00:37:45,159
and my father had fallen
in love with her.
612
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,110
It was a difficult time
for my mother, obviously.
613
00:37:50,190 --> 00:37:51,519
♪ ♪
614
00:37:51,610 --> 00:37:54,320
I remember sitting
at dinner...
615
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,190
We ate Spam,
616
00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,949
not all the time,
617
00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:03,909
but occasionally, it would be
canned fruit and Spam.
618
00:38:03,980 --> 00:38:05,190
Very weird.
619
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,440
And sitting at the table,
620
00:38:08,530 --> 00:38:10,699
I looked down
and my mother was--
621
00:38:10,780 --> 00:38:13,570
there were tears
pouring down her face
622
00:38:13,650 --> 00:38:15,570
onto her dinner plate.
623
00:38:15,650 --> 00:38:19,860
And my grandmother was here,
and my brother--
and no one said a word.
624
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,440
♪ ♪
625
00:38:24,690 --> 00:38:26,900
And I remember,
one afternoon her
626
00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:29,690
being taken to a hospital.
627
00:38:31,530 --> 00:38:33,489
The last time she came home,
628
00:38:33,570 --> 00:38:36,110
she has convinced the people
at the institution
629
00:38:36,190 --> 00:38:38,320
that she was getting well
and they let her come home,
630
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,900
with a nurse accompanying her.
631
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:44,150
My brother and I
had been upstairs
playing jacks.
632
00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:46,739
Grandma called for us
to come down,
633
00:38:46,820 --> 00:38:48,190
and I wouldn't go.
634
00:38:49,150 --> 00:38:52,280
I said to Peter,
"You go and I'll let you win,
635
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,150
if you go down, I'm not going."
636
00:38:56,820 --> 00:38:58,650
I never saw her again.
637
00:39:00,150 --> 00:39:04,610
That was the day she snuck
a razor out of the house,
638
00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:07,150
and then killed herself.
639
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,150
I came home
from school one day,
640
00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:15,980
my father and my grandmother
were sitting in the living room,
641
00:39:16,070 --> 00:39:17,610
and they sat me down,
and they said,
642
00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:20,400
"Your mother
died of a heart attack."
643
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,820
I could hear Peter crying.
644
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:28,650
And I kept thinking,
"Why can't I cry?"
I never cried.
645
00:39:28,739 --> 00:39:31,619
I never cried,
I sat on the edge of my bed
646
00:39:31,690 --> 00:39:33,400
thinking,
"What's the matter with me?"
647
00:39:34,570 --> 00:39:36,150
And people would say,
648
00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:39,150
"God, Jane
isn't she amazing?
649
00:39:39,230 --> 00:39:42,309
"She's so strong."
650
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:47,320
So it was like approbation
for keeping it all in.
651
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,690
And that became
my modus operandi.
652
00:39:50,610 --> 00:39:52,690
Um...
653
00:39:52,780 --> 00:39:56,739
it was very hard
for me to ever be able
to kinda do away
654
00:39:56,820 --> 00:39:58,860
with that.
It took a long, long time.
655
00:39:58,940 --> 00:40:00,190
Um...
656
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,820
Susan Lacy:
Did you notice, uh,
or observe
657
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:06,030
how your father reacted
to your mother's death?
658
00:40:06,110 --> 00:40:08,360
Well, dad came out
and he dropped the news,
659
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,690
and then went back to New York
and did his play.
660
00:40:11,780 --> 00:40:12,739
Um...
661
00:40:12,820 --> 00:40:14,650
that was dad.
662
00:40:14,739 --> 00:40:16,820
The show must go on.
663
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:19,070
♪ ♪
664
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,860
My father took me
to Union Station,
665
00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:29,400
with my suitcase,
666
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,809
and put me on the train
to boarding school.
667
00:40:34,860 --> 00:40:37,570
He was newly married.
668
00:40:37,650 --> 00:40:40,570
He was in a play
on Broadway, and...
669
00:40:40,650 --> 00:40:42,860
making films in the summer.
I mean, it was obvious
670
00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:46,190
that Peter and I
couldn't continue living
at home with him.
671
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,980
Nobody had ever talked to us
about what had happened
with my mother.
672
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,059
I found out
because of a movie magazine.
673
00:40:57,150 --> 00:41:02,900
And it said,
"Henry Fonda's ex-wife,
Frances de Villers Fonda,
674
00:41:02,980 --> 00:41:06,940
"cut her throat with a razor
at the Riggs Institute," and...
675
00:41:10,650 --> 00:41:12,820
♪ ♪
676
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,780
It was an awkward situation
on a lot of different levels.
677
00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:20,780
And, to my dad,
boarding school
was getting us
678
00:41:20,860 --> 00:41:22,320
into a safe place,
679
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,280
and it was also getting us
out of his hair.
680
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,570
♪ ♪
681
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:56,400
It was like a haven.
682
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,190
It was a-- it was the
steady thing in my life.
It was the core of my life.
683
00:42:04,070 --> 00:42:05,860
I became very aware
684
00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:08,690
of the fact that
I was really different,
685
00:42:08,780 --> 00:42:11,860
not just because
my father was famous.
686
00:42:12,940 --> 00:42:15,730
We just lived differently.
687
00:42:18,739 --> 00:42:22,159
There was no...
continuity.
688
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:24,440
Susan was his third wife,
689
00:42:24,530 --> 00:42:26,610
he would have two more
after that.
690
00:42:28,190 --> 00:42:30,440
I didn't have a community
of friends
691
00:42:30,530 --> 00:42:33,199
that I had gone to school with
before I came here.
692
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,070
My friends were the friends
that I made here.
693
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,610
I loved it.
694
00:42:40,940 --> 00:42:43,480
I loved biology.
695
00:42:43,570 --> 00:42:44,820
I also loved history.
696
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:47,150
I loved the Roman
and Greek history.
697
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,320
That's how I got into bulimia,
698
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,730
learning about how the Romans
would gorge themselves
and then...
699
00:42:55,780 --> 00:42:57,030
I had a roommate,
700
00:42:57,110 --> 00:42:58,570
Carol Bentley.
701
00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:02,110
Carol taught me to do this.
702
00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:04,820
And of course...
703
00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:07,150
you know, we didn't realize...
704
00:43:07,230 --> 00:43:10,190
what we were starting,
we didn't realize how--
705
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,239
how dangerous it was,
and how addictive,
706
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,530
and how it would affect
so much of our lives.
707
00:43:16,610 --> 00:43:17,980
But it's-- it started here.
708
00:43:18,070 --> 00:43:19,860
♪ ♪
709
00:43:19,940 --> 00:43:22,519
You never told anybody
that you were...
710
00:43:22,610 --> 00:43:24,070
doing this.
711
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:26,730
I thought it was just
her and me and the Romans.
712
00:43:26,820 --> 00:43:29,320
It never occurred to me
that anybody else did it.
713
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,239
♪ ♪
714
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,239
Mothers are often
blamed for that,
but for me,
715
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,489
it was-- it was my dad.
716
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,570
I made him ashamed.
717
00:43:41,650 --> 00:43:43,440
He thought I was fat...
718
00:43:45,150 --> 00:43:48,400
because I didn't look
the way he wanted me to look.
719
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,610
I knew that
he didn't want me around,
720
00:43:50,690 --> 00:43:52,269
or that I embarrassed him,
721
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,280
and, I mean,
he told people that.
722
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,280
I heard my father say things
about my body
723
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,320
that has twisted my life
in deep ways ever since.
724
00:44:04,030 --> 00:44:09,110
And, by the way,
most of his wives suffered
from eating disorders,
725
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:10,980
including my mother.
726
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:16,230
So the shadow
of my mother's suicide,
727
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,239
which happened a year
before I went to Emma Willard,
728
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,530
was never far away.
729
00:44:35,860 --> 00:44:38,150
I'm gonna get off
this merry-go-round.
730
00:44:40,030 --> 00:44:42,909
I'm so sick
of the whole stinkin' thing.
731
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,440
What thing?
732
00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:51,610
Life.
733
00:45:02,570 --> 00:45:06,940
They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
was the first time I had ever
made a movie that...
734
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:10,320
was about something.
735
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,480
It's a metaphor, in a way,
736
00:45:12,570 --> 00:45:14,320
for...
737
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,030
American society, greed.
738
00:45:17,940 --> 00:45:20,480
And the desperation
of people who don't
739
00:45:20,570 --> 00:45:22,190
have money and privilege.
740
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,739
♪ ♪
741
00:45:25,110 --> 00:45:26,400
During the Depression,
742
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,860
people would go
to these dance marathons
743
00:45:28,940 --> 00:45:31,150
to try to win
all kinds of prizes.
744
00:45:31,230 --> 00:45:34,110
And they would dance
without stopping for weeks.
745
00:45:36,650 --> 00:45:38,980
Announcer:
These wonderful kids
deserve your cheers
746
00:45:39,070 --> 00:45:40,400
because each one of them
747
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,190
is fighting down pain,
exhaustion, weariness,
748
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,530
struggling to keep going,
battling to win.
749
00:45:47,610 --> 00:45:50,400
And isn't that the American way?
750
00:45:56,780 --> 00:45:58,360
Jane: Before
we started shooting,
751
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,690
Sydney Pollack called me.
752
00:46:00,780 --> 00:46:02,739
I didn't know who he was.
753
00:46:02,820 --> 00:46:05,860
He'd made, maybe,
one other movie.
754
00:46:05,940 --> 00:46:09,860
And I'll never forget it,
he said, "You know, what do
you think of the script?
755
00:46:09,940 --> 00:46:12,900
"Tell me what
you think we've left out.
756
00:46:12,980 --> 00:46:15,559
"Let me know if you think
there's something important."
757
00:46:15,650 --> 00:46:18,940
Well, I mean, no director had--
including my husband,
758
00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:20,739
who directed me
in several movies--
759
00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:24,940
had ever...
talked to me that way,
760
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:28,360
asked my opinion
about things that were profound.
761
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,360
Sydney Pollack:
I always had this sense
that she was...
762
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,230
a serious actress
763
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,739
buried inside this glamour-puss.
764
00:46:37,820 --> 00:46:39,699
Work, work, work!
765
00:46:39,780 --> 00:46:41,739
They Shoot Horses,
Don't They?
was a much darker film,
766
00:46:41,820 --> 00:46:45,900
and asked her to go
to a different place
in herself.
767
00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:47,519
And she was great
in the role.
768
00:46:47,610 --> 00:46:52,150
There's not a shred of vanity
in the performance.
769
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:54,900
Jane:
Syndey made me feel seen,
770
00:46:54,980 --> 00:46:56,519
and of worth.
771
00:46:57,570 --> 00:47:00,070
And so I thought,
"Yeah, I'm gonna go there."
772
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,449
I threw myself
into the character
773
00:47:03,530 --> 00:47:05,610
the way I never had before.
774
00:47:05,690 --> 00:47:07,900
♪ ♪
775
00:47:07,980 --> 00:47:09,940
I lived at the studio.
776
00:47:10,030 --> 00:47:13,949
I looked at paintings
and pictures of crazy people.
777
00:47:14,030 --> 00:47:17,530
I wrapped myself
in a cocoon of darkness.
778
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:23,110
I had a...
six-month-old child
and a husband.
779
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:28,150
But I just didn't have
the technique yet
where I could go
780
00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:32,269
as far down the dark hole
as I possibly could,
781
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,400
and be a wife and mother.
782
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,610
I had to stay
in the dark hole.
783
00:47:37,690 --> 00:47:39,650
♪ ♪
784
00:47:39,739 --> 00:47:42,949
The presence of my mother
was with me.
785
00:47:43,739 --> 00:47:47,619
I had to get myself
to a point
786
00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:51,400
where I really felt...
"Why go on?
787
00:47:53,230 --> 00:47:56,559
There's absolutely no point."
788
00:48:05,570 --> 00:48:06,699
Now?
789
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:09,400
Now.
790
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,559
♪ ♪
791
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,900
Then, something shifted.
792
00:48:26,570 --> 00:48:31,400
My wig from They Shoot Horses
comes off,
793
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,690
I've got this long,
still-Barbarella-esque hair,
794
00:48:35,780 --> 00:48:39,989
and I just thought,
"This is not me anymore."
795
00:48:41,820 --> 00:48:44,320
I had my first hair epiphany.
796
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,030
♪ ♪
797
00:48:47,110 --> 00:48:49,489
Someone said my hair
needed its own agent.
798
00:48:51,110 --> 00:48:53,780
And I went to Vadim's barber,
Paul McGregor,
799
00:48:54,820 --> 00:48:57,820
who had a salon
in Greenwich Village,
800
00:48:58,820 --> 00:49:01,400
and I said,
"Do something.
801
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,860
Cut if off."
802
00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:04,190
♪ ♪
803
00:49:05,820 --> 00:49:09,110
And he gave me
what has become known
as the Klute hairdo.
804
00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:20,230
I was very conflicted about
whether it was a good idea
to be playing a hooker.
805
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,150
♪ ♪
806
00:49:24,110 --> 00:49:25,940
Before we started shooting,
807
00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:29,320
I came to New York and spent
a week with call girls
and madams,
808
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,030
really in the bowels
of that dark world.
809
00:49:35,610 --> 00:49:38,070
There was a hardness
810
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:40,690
to them that was
painful to watch.
811
00:49:41,570 --> 00:49:46,110
Not one pimp looked
at me twice,
812
00:49:46,190 --> 00:49:47,940
didn't even wink at me.
813
00:49:48,030 --> 00:49:51,610
And what that said
to me was, it played
right to my insecurities,
814
00:49:51,690 --> 00:49:53,110
"They know...
815
00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:57,900
I'm just an upper-class,
privileged pretender."
816
00:49:58,690 --> 00:50:01,480
And that's what motivated me
to say to Alan Pakula,
817
00:50:01,570 --> 00:50:04,610
"I just-- I don't-- I don't know
if I can play this character.
818
00:50:04,690 --> 00:50:06,860
And you should hire
Faye Dunaway."
819
00:50:07,650 --> 00:50:09,820
Pakula: She came up
to me and she said,
"Alan, I want out.
820
00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:11,690
I don't know what I'm doing."
821
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,280
And "I just think
I'm wrong for this.
822
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,320
I think it's not gonna work."
823
00:50:17,650 --> 00:50:19,280
Get somebody else."
824
00:50:21,610 --> 00:50:23,480
And I said,
"I'm not letting you out."
825
00:50:23,570 --> 00:50:25,360
♪ ♪
826
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,150
There was no way
I would have done
that picture without Jane.
827
00:50:27,230 --> 00:50:30,480
Jane is a fascinating
combination
828
00:50:30,570 --> 00:50:32,650
of a woman
who has great courage,
829
00:50:32,739 --> 00:50:35,489
great strength,
and at the same time,
830
00:50:35,570 --> 00:50:39,030
had been used to being--
like maybe attracted
to being controlled
831
00:50:39,110 --> 00:50:41,190
by somebody else.
832
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,449
And I thought,
where Jane was
in her life then,
833
00:50:44,530 --> 00:50:47,320
in a very transition time,
was absolutely right
834
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,690
for this character
of a woman who's trying
to change her life.
835
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,360
Jane:
I brought something
different to Klute
836
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,820
than I had before.
837
00:50:56,900 --> 00:50:58,780
She was wounded.
838
00:50:58,860 --> 00:51:00,860
There was no ability
to trust anymore,
839
00:51:00,940 --> 00:51:03,980
that was what was
so hard for her.
840
00:51:04,070 --> 00:51:08,239
Once I began to kind of
marinate in that feeling,
841
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,360
I could, um...
then I could play her.
842
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,940
♪ ♪
843
00:51:15,230 --> 00:51:17,360
Psychiatrist:
What's the difference
between going out on a call
844
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,400
as a model or as an actress
or as a call girl?
845
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,519
You're successful
as a call girl,
you're not suc--
846
00:51:21,610 --> 00:51:24,070
Because when you're a call girl,
you control it, that's why.
847
00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:27,730
Jane: I said to Alan,
"Can we shoot all those
psychiatrist's scenes
848
00:51:27,820 --> 00:51:29,650
"at the very, very end...
849
00:51:31,780 --> 00:51:34,909
when I've internalized her
the most completely?"
850
00:51:35,940 --> 00:51:37,230
Nothing was written.
851
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,360
I hadn't prepared anything
in particular.
852
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,190
I just wanted to be present
in the moment,
853
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,360
and let whatever happened
happen.
854
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,360
I just started improvising.
855
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,150
And for an hour...
856
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,030
For an hour, I'm the best
actress in the world
857
00:51:54,110 --> 00:51:56,440
and the best fuck
in the world, and...
858
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,780
you don't have
to feel anything,
859
00:51:58,860 --> 00:52:00,860
you don't have
to care about anything,
860
00:52:00,940 --> 00:52:03,570
you don't have
to like anybody...
861
00:52:03,650 --> 00:52:06,780
Jane:
That came
from a new place in me.
862
00:52:06,860 --> 00:52:10,230
That's when I realized
that anyone can change
863
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,400
and become fierce.
864
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,610
♪ ♪
865
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,650
Julian Pettifer: Jane Fonda,
you've been taking your public
by surprise recently.
866
00:52:30,739 --> 00:52:35,030
Instead of being pictured
on the beaches of St. Tropez,
you've been pictured
867
00:52:35,690 --> 00:52:39,110
invading Army camps
and getting yourself arrested.
868
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:42,480
From where I am, it looks
like a different Jane Fonda.
869
00:52:42,570 --> 00:52:45,030
Oh, I think you're right.
I think I am different.
870
00:52:46,070 --> 00:52:49,280
Roger Vadim is French,
a director of motion pictures,
871
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,650
and the husband
of Jane Fonda.
872
00:52:51,739 --> 00:52:54,449
Ms. Fonda is quite active
in the peace movement,
873
00:52:54,530 --> 00:52:57,780
the civil rights field, efforts
to aid Mexican-Americans,
874
00:52:57,860 --> 00:53:00,400
American-Indians,
and dissident soldiers.
875
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,900
Vadim says, "Ms. Fonda is
happy, very happy.
876
00:53:02,980 --> 00:53:05,269
"But said she decided,"
as he put it,
877
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,190
"To take on the sins
of her country, she has lost
her sense of humor."
878
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,780
As a case in point,
879
00:53:10,860 --> 00:53:13,280
he reported that one day,
recently, he called her
880
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,690
"Jane of Arc."
881
00:53:14,780 --> 00:53:16,530
He says,
she didn't laugh at all.
882
00:53:16,610 --> 00:53:18,280
♪ ♪
883
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,940
Jane:
I knew that I was gonna
have to leave Vadim,
884
00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:25,659
and that whole
hedonistic relationship.
885
00:53:25,739 --> 00:53:29,530
And I think it was
deeply confusing for him
886
00:53:29,610 --> 00:53:32,820
to have a wife
that he cared for
leave him--
887
00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:35,860
not for another man,
but for an idea.
888
00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:36,940
♪ ♪
889
00:53:38,739 --> 00:53:42,030
Nathalie:
She tends to
move on from things.
890
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:45,980
You know, you don't
really realize how you affect
people when you do that.
891
00:53:46,070 --> 00:53:48,199
It's like, "Oh, okay,
now I'm done with this,
892
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,610
therefore I'm gonna make
new friends, and it's gonna
be a new life."
893
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,519
You know,
and we got left behind.
894
00:53:54,610 --> 00:53:55,980
♪ ♪
895
00:53:58,150 --> 00:54:00,570
Jane:
I came back from France
896
00:54:00,650 --> 00:54:03,030
and I moved
into my father's house.
897
00:54:03,110 --> 00:54:06,739
And I began to...
become an activist.
898
00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:11,360
And my father could look
from the upstairs window
899
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,360
down onto the courtyard
and see
900
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,360
the leadership of the
Black Panther Party
going in and out,
901
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,190
and he said to me,
"If I find out
902
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,699
you are a Communist,
I'm gonna turn you in!"
903
00:54:24,780 --> 00:54:29,280
And I remember
running to my room,
I was still living with him,
904
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,780
and just pulling the covers
over my head.
905
00:54:32,650 --> 00:54:34,860
It came out of a fear,
for me
906
00:54:34,940 --> 00:54:38,320
I understand that now,
but it was so hurtful then.
907
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,400
If you were good young people,
you would be fitting yourself
908
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,860
into a scenario that has
been laid out for all of us,
909
00:54:45,940 --> 00:54:49,070
a nice, set scenario to fit us
into the American way of life.
910
00:54:49,150 --> 00:54:51,280
And it says that you
must conduct yourselves
911
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,239
in the manner that meets
the approval and standards
of the people in power.
912
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,110
It's called
making it on your own.
913
00:54:58,190 --> 00:55:00,730
♪ Well, come on,
all of you big strong men ♪
914
00:55:00,820 --> 00:55:02,900
♪ Uncle Sam
needs your help again ♪
915
00:55:02,980 --> 00:55:05,110
♪ Got himself
in a terrible jam ♪
916
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:07,400
♪ Way down yonder
in Viet-nam ♪
917
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,559
♪ Put down your books
and pick up a gun ♪
918
00:55:09,650 --> 00:55:11,610
♪ We're gonna
have a whole lotta fun ♪
919
00:55:11,690 --> 00:55:15,730
♪ And it's one, two, three,
what are we fighting for? ♪
920
00:55:15,820 --> 00:55:19,070
Jane: There was so much
catching up to do
about Vietnam
921
00:55:19,150 --> 00:55:22,070
and about Native Americans
922
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:24,940
and about what was happening
to black people,
923
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:26,610
the Black Panthers.
924
00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:29,820
How could I have reached
the age of 32
925
00:55:29,900 --> 00:55:32,030
in such ignorance?
926
00:55:33,230 --> 00:55:34,610
I felt so guilty,
927
00:55:34,690 --> 00:55:37,110
and I just felt like
I had to, kind of,
928
00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:39,860
all of a sudden become
an overnight...
929
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:43,820
righteous activist.
930
00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:46,440
♪ Well, there ain't no time
to wonder why ♪
931
00:55:46,530 --> 00:55:48,780
♪ Whoopee,
we're all gonna die ♪
932
00:55:48,860 --> 00:55:50,739
-All right!
933
00:55:50,820 --> 00:55:52,860
Country Joe McDonald:
It's generally
acknowledged that
934
00:55:52,940 --> 00:55:55,900
new people who join the movement
become zealots.
935
00:55:57,570 --> 00:55:59,989
You know, they're
like converts, you know.
936
00:56:00,070 --> 00:56:01,320
And I think
that Jane is convinced
937
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,320
that she is going to stop
the war in Vietnam,
938
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,190
and that she knows
what is best
939
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,489
and how to do it.
940
00:56:07,570 --> 00:56:08,650
Jane:
I think people felt
941
00:56:08,739 --> 00:56:10,619
very suspicious
about my motives.
942
00:56:10,690 --> 00:56:12,570
I would've
if I'd been somebody else.
943
00:56:13,570 --> 00:56:17,530
"You are a rich movie star.
Why do you care? Why are you...
944
00:56:17,610 --> 00:56:19,030
"involving yourself in this?
945
00:56:19,110 --> 00:56:21,570
And how can I be sure
that you're for real?"
946
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,650
I didn't quite know
what I was doing,
947
00:56:25,739 --> 00:56:28,699
or how to make
proper use of my celebrity.
948
00:56:28,780 --> 00:56:31,530
So much had happened
so quickly.
949
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,730
I was alternately
bulimic and anorexic.
950
00:56:38,820 --> 00:56:44,739
I would, maybe, eat
one soft-boiled egg
and spinach a day, period.
951
00:56:45,780 --> 00:56:50,159
I took Dexedrine,
which is speed.
952
00:56:51,150 --> 00:56:53,400
So I was really speedy,
953
00:56:53,980 --> 00:56:56,190
and I was starving,
954
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,030
along with, like,
getting all of this new...
955
00:57:00,110 --> 00:57:03,320
information coming in
at a very rapid pace.
956
00:57:03,780 --> 00:57:07,989
We here today, together
with the multitudes
across the country
957
00:57:08,070 --> 00:57:11,530
that are joined together
in massive protest,
958
00:57:11,610 --> 00:57:15,980
are showing to Richard Nixon
that his advisers...
959
00:57:16,940 --> 00:57:19,400
that the silent majority
is dead.
960
00:57:20,820 --> 00:57:23,070
Jane: I mean,
I'm high-strung anyway,
961
00:57:23,150 --> 00:57:25,530
but me on Dexedrine,
without eating
962
00:57:25,610 --> 00:57:29,280
and feeling like I have
to say everything all at once,
it's like...
963
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,019
I'm amazed that anybody
could receive what I was saying.
964
00:57:34,650 --> 00:57:38,690
It was like,
"Wow, who is this woman?"
965
00:57:39,820 --> 00:57:42,900
The winner is Jane Fonda
for Klute.
966
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,690
Jane: My head was
not in Hollywood.
967
00:57:49,780 --> 00:57:54,280
I didn't think very much
about my career anymore.
968
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,320
It wasn't where I was at.
969
00:57:57,860 --> 00:58:02,480
I wasn't some
privileged person
kind of doling out money
970
00:58:02,570 --> 00:58:04,650
and then going about my life.
971
00:58:04,739 --> 00:58:08,989
It was full-time,
on-the-ground activism.
972
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,110
I was on the road
all the time.
973
00:58:12,190 --> 00:58:16,230
I was identified with
different movements,
974
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,820
and my life
was very complicated
975
00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:21,780
and very, very busy,
and intense.
976
00:58:21,860 --> 00:58:25,480
I do have a tendency
to kind of go full bore,
977
00:58:25,570 --> 00:58:28,400
200 percent,
for better or worse.
978
00:58:31,860 --> 00:58:33,900
It felt like a betrayal
to Vanessa.
979
00:58:35,900 --> 00:58:38,070
♪ ♪
980
00:58:38,570 --> 00:58:41,940
One night, I laid her
on a towel on the floor
to change her diapers,
981
00:58:42,030 --> 00:58:46,489
and she looked very deep
into my eyes,
982
00:58:46,570 --> 00:58:50,400
and I could tell
that she was saying,
"Where are you?
983
00:58:54,110 --> 00:58:55,820
"Where are you?
984
00:58:55,900 --> 00:58:57,860
"Why don't you show up?"
985
00:58:57,940 --> 00:59:00,940
That's what I felt.
986
00:59:01,030 --> 00:59:02,909
And I had to look away.
987
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,570
Isn't that awful?
988
00:59:08,070 --> 00:59:11,199
I was kinda in over my head.
989
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,820
I desperately
needed structure,
990
00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:17,320
I desperately
needed guidance,
991
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:18,610
and, uh,
992
00:59:18,690 --> 00:59:21,820
I had always turned
to men for that.
993
00:59:23,739 --> 00:59:27,820
Tom Hayden:
We must be unified,
must be invincible,
994
00:59:27,900 --> 00:59:31,570
must be strong,
must find solidarity,
995
00:59:31,650 --> 00:59:34,860
must struggle,
must have a program,
996
00:59:34,940 --> 00:59:39,730
and must be the rock
on which this attempt
to impose fascism is shattered.
997
00:59:41,570 --> 00:59:43,110
♪ ♪
998
00:59:45,940 --> 00:59:48,360
Jane:
I was downtown
at some theater,
999
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,059
and this guy shows up...
Tom Hayden.
1000
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:54,860
Hayden:
We connected
a little bit,
1001
00:59:54,940 --> 00:59:56,690
and, uh, I could tell
1002
00:59:56,780 --> 00:59:59,570
that something
was going on between us.
1003
00:59:59,650 --> 01:00:02,400
Jane:
He was a movement hero.
1004
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,059
I was extremely intimidated.
1005
01:00:05,150 --> 01:00:07,900
I thought, "Oh, there's
just something so impish."
1006
01:00:07,980 --> 01:00:10,769
He had a twinkle in his eye.
1007
01:00:10,860 --> 01:00:14,070
He put his hand on my knee,
1008
01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:19,690
and I felt this electric shock
go through my body,
1009
01:00:19,780 --> 01:00:24,570
and I came home, and I said--
I had a roommate at the time,
Ruby, and I said to her,
1010
01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:28,070
"I think that I've met the man
that I'm gonna marry next."
1011
01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:30,730
♪ ♪
1012
01:00:30,820 --> 01:00:35,070
He had been part
of the formation
of the New Left.
1013
01:00:35,150 --> 01:00:37,070
He had been
one of the Chicago 7.
1014
01:00:37,150 --> 01:00:39,820
He was cofounder of SDS.
1015
01:00:41,820 --> 01:00:45,150
I was already an activist
when Tom came along.
1016
01:00:45,230 --> 01:00:49,110
But he had such experience,
he knew
1017
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:52,440
how to help me
go down that path,
1018
01:00:52,530 --> 01:00:55,360
better and smarter and deeper.
1019
01:00:56,690 --> 01:01:00,230
Hayden: I had been
in the peace movement
for a long time.
1020
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,110
But the first
SDS national demonstration,
1021
01:01:04,190 --> 01:01:06,610
the largest
in American history,
1022
01:01:06,690 --> 01:01:09,059
was in 1965.
1023
01:01:09,150 --> 01:01:15,440
It was 25,000 people,
that would grow by 20-fold
in just a few years,
1024
01:01:15,530 --> 01:01:17,820
and Jane was involved
in all of that.
1025
01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:22,730
She had a role
in helping with the,
uh, GI coffee houses
1026
01:01:22,820 --> 01:01:27,449
to share information
with the soldiers
about their options.
1027
01:01:27,530 --> 01:01:31,489
"Where exactly is Vietnam?
What exactly could
happen to me?"
1028
01:01:31,570 --> 01:01:34,030
That sort of thing
was very real.
1029
01:01:34,110 --> 01:01:37,320
She suggested
that she hadn't been thinking,
1030
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,280
and that her recommendation
was to think.
1031
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,489
And they did.
1032
01:01:41,570 --> 01:01:43,360
♪ ♪
1033
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,360
It spread to campuses,
1034
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,400
where, eventually,
many thousands
of young men resisted.
1035
01:01:52,190 --> 01:01:54,820
I was drawn
by her transformation
1036
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:58,360
from a Hollywood star
to a political star.
1037
01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:07,400
Dick Cavett: It's not often
that a movie star also gets
involved in anything
1038
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,809
that might irritate people,
and my next guest has
certainly taken that chance
1039
01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:13,980
and done it to the hilt.
1040
01:02:14,070 --> 01:02:17,150
She, as I'm sure you know,
recently returned from
a trip to North Vietnam.
1041
01:02:17,230 --> 01:02:18,860
Will you welcome, please,
Jane Fonda.
1042
01:02:22,230 --> 01:02:24,690
You really got pasted this time
by the press and others
1043
01:02:24,780 --> 01:02:27,699
when you came back,
as you obviously know.
1044
01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:29,989
Would you have done
anything differently
1045
01:02:30,070 --> 01:02:32,030
if you had it to do
over again?
1046
01:02:32,110 --> 01:02:34,280
♪ ♪
1047
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,519
Jane:
It's a surreal thing
to live through--
1048
01:02:37,610 --> 01:02:41,780
what I experienced
in the two weeks that I was
in North Vietnam.
1049
01:02:43,780 --> 01:02:46,070
Flying from Nam Pen
to Hanoi,
1050
01:02:46,150 --> 01:02:48,480
I look out the window,
and I can see
1051
01:02:48,570 --> 01:02:50,860
American planes bombing.
1052
01:02:51,780 --> 01:02:53,570
Nixon was bringing
ground troops home,
1053
01:02:53,650 --> 01:02:55,610
and he was saying
that he was ending the war,
1054
01:02:55,690 --> 01:02:57,269
when, in fact,
it wasn't ending.
1055
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,360
It was escalating in terms
of bombing of North Vietnam.
1056
01:03:16,690 --> 01:03:20,269
Jane: We began to get
communiqués saying,
this is really serious.
1057
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,070
It looks like American planes
are targeting
1058
01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:27,570
the dikes of North Vietnam
right before the monsoon season.
1059
01:03:27,650 --> 01:03:31,070
If the dikes are weakened
and give way,
1060
01:03:31,150 --> 01:03:34,690
a million people could drown
or die from starvation.
1061
01:03:36,190 --> 01:03:40,230
I'm always interested,
first, in the mechanics of how
somebody gets to North Vietnam.
1062
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,820
A lot of people say, well,
you know, "How come you
got to go,
1063
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:47,570
and how do you feel
that you have a right
to speak about the war?"
1064
01:03:47,650 --> 01:03:49,980
And I have no more right
than anyone else, you know?
1065
01:03:50,070 --> 01:03:53,900
Two years ago,
I didn't even know
where Vietnam was.
1066
01:03:53,980 --> 01:04:00,059
Why on earth would she conceive
of the idea of going alone...
1067
01:04:00,150 --> 01:04:02,280
to Hanoi?
1068
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,650
Would she have gone to Berlin
1069
01:04:04,739 --> 01:04:08,570
during the middle
of the Anschluss?
1070
01:04:10,030 --> 01:04:14,860
She was, maybe,
as some would say, searching
for something in herself,
1071
01:04:14,940 --> 01:04:17,980
testing herself.
"How brave am I?
1072
01:04:18,070 --> 01:04:21,820
Am I not just
a flibbertigibbet
on the screen?"
1073
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:24,980
We might need psychiatry
to help us with the answer
to this.
1074
01:04:25,070 --> 01:04:27,320
I'm not sure.
1075
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,780
It's either brave or foolish,
and I think it partook of both.
1076
01:04:32,860 --> 01:04:35,739
♪ ♪
1077
01:05:05,780 --> 01:05:08,409
Lesley Stahl:
Were you trying to get
the soldiers
1078
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,690
to disobey
their orders?
1079
01:05:10,780 --> 01:05:12,449
No, I-I...
1080
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,519
I knew that you cannot
ask a soldier to disobey orders.
1081
01:05:16,610 --> 01:05:18,530
You're not the one that pays
the consequences.
1082
01:05:18,610 --> 01:05:20,860
Well, you said,
this is direct quotes,
1083
01:05:20,940 --> 01:05:23,190
"I beg you to consider
what you are doing.
1084
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,320
"The hospitals are filled
with babies and women
and old people.
1085
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,690
Can you justify
what you are doing?"
1086
01:05:29,780 --> 01:05:34,610
Doesn't that sound
like you're asking them
to stop what they're doing?
1087
01:05:36,030 --> 01:05:38,570
I'm asking them to consider it.
1088
01:05:38,650 --> 01:05:40,150
♪ ♪
1089
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:42,650
Cavett:
And then, in your trip,
you were photographed
1090
01:05:42,739 --> 01:05:46,619
behind an aerial gun
of the, uh, North Vietnamese,
1091
01:05:46,690 --> 01:05:50,730
if not the Vietcong,
I'm not sure. That seemed
a bit tactless.
1092
01:05:50,820 --> 01:05:53,900
What were you doing
behind an enemy gun?
1093
01:05:53,980 --> 01:05:57,230
I didn't think, at the time,
about how it would be,
uh, received.
1094
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,989
And I can understand
why people were
very confused by that.
1095
01:06:01,610 --> 01:06:05,230
The soldiers received me there
and sang me a song.
1096
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,239
It was very moving to me
because they were expressing
the same sentiments
1097
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,570
that American GIs
expressed to me.
1098
01:06:10,650 --> 01:06:12,690
And I was applauding
their song
1099
01:06:12,780 --> 01:06:15,780
and this was what was shown
on American television.
1100
01:06:15,860 --> 01:06:17,150
Cavett:
Yeah, yeah.
1101
01:06:17,230 --> 01:06:19,519
Well, I wondered
how you got there.
1102
01:06:21,690 --> 01:06:24,480
Jane: I'm--I'm naive
and I make mistakes, but...
1103
01:06:24,570 --> 01:06:28,239
it was my fault
that I sat there.
1104
01:06:29,530 --> 01:06:32,449
The image of Jane Fonda,
1105
01:06:32,530 --> 01:06:33,989
Barbarella,
1106
01:06:34,070 --> 01:06:35,949
Henry Fonda's daughter
1107
01:06:36,030 --> 01:06:41,159
sitting on an enemy aircraft gun
was a betrayal.
1108
01:06:41,230 --> 01:06:44,150
It was like I was thumbing
my nose at the military
1109
01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:46,150
and at-- at the country
1110
01:06:46,230 --> 01:06:48,769
that gave me privilege.
1111
01:06:48,860 --> 01:06:51,280
♪ ♪
1112
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,030
As I've said many times,
I will go to my grave
regretting that.
1113
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,360
♪ ♪
1114
01:06:59,739 --> 01:07:02,110
Hayden:
I wasn't there.
I might have stopped it.
1115
01:07:02,190 --> 01:07:05,650
I would not have advised it,
but you can't stop the media.
1116
01:07:05,739 --> 01:07:10,030
And so you took this picture
and of course it went viral.
1117
01:07:11,070 --> 01:07:16,110
I thought it was a problem
of the celebrity spotlight,
1118
01:07:16,190 --> 01:07:20,480
when you're used by the media,
and blown up by the media,
1119
01:07:20,570 --> 01:07:23,610
you will make a mistake
in the media.
1120
01:07:23,690 --> 01:07:24,690
♪ ♪
1121
01:07:28,690 --> 01:07:30,940
Newsman: The Justice
Department said it is
attempting to determine
1122
01:07:31,030 --> 01:07:32,360
whether Ms. Fonda
had violated
1123
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,690
sedition, treason
or other statutes.
1124
01:07:34,780 --> 01:07:37,820
Howard Smith:
Distrust movie actors
with causes.
1125
01:07:37,900 --> 01:07:41,320
They live in so rarefied
an atmosphere of celebrity
1126
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,650
that they have no conception
of the ambiguity of right
and wrong in real life.
1127
01:07:45,739 --> 01:07:47,449
♪ ♪
1128
01:07:48,739 --> 01:07:52,489
Jane: They needed
a very visible person
1129
01:07:52,570 --> 01:07:54,860
who represented
the peace movement
1130
01:07:54,940 --> 01:07:58,190
to do something
really terrible,
1131
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,699
and that was me.
1132
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,980
Man 1:
The petition we're circulating
asks the Justice Department
1133
01:08:16,069 --> 01:08:19,359
to prosecute Jane Fonda
to the fullest extent
of the law
1134
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,060
for giving aid and comfort
to the enemy.
1135
01:08:22,149 --> 01:08:24,109
Man 2: Jane Fonda's
an outrageous liar.
1136
01:08:24,189 --> 01:08:26,229
She's a hypocrite and a liar.
1137
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:28,779
Man 3: She's the most
despicable woman
in the United States.
1138
01:08:28,859 --> 01:08:30,899
Man 4: There are
other people in films,
too, that we don't ask
1139
01:08:30,979 --> 01:08:33,060
for advice, such as
Mickey Mouse or Lassie.
1140
01:08:33,149 --> 01:08:35,359
Woman: I don't think
she should've done
the things that she's done
1141
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,899
and said about our country
and come back and lived
in the country.
1142
01:08:37,979 --> 01:08:40,859
Fletcher Thompson:
I don't care if she's
a tender, young female,
1143
01:08:40,939 --> 01:08:44,020
a famous movie star,
that is treason.
1144
01:08:44,109 --> 01:08:45,899
It's under active investigation.
1145
01:08:45,979 --> 01:08:48,439
They have not yet made
a decision as to whether
1146
01:08:48,529 --> 01:08:50,279
to prosecute or not prosecute.
1147
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:52,399
Jane:
And of course,
they found nothing,
1148
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,399
so the charges of treason
have been dropped.
1149
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,729
And they don't understand
that I... I came back here
because I love America.
1150
01:08:59,819 --> 01:09:02,529
The democratic ideals upon
which our country is founded
1151
01:09:02,609 --> 01:09:04,689
is-- are being betrayed.
1152
01:09:05,569 --> 01:09:07,989
-We have an obligation
to resist this.
-Cavett: I'm sorry, Jane.
1153
01:09:08,069 --> 01:09:11,699
I'm disturbed
by your difference between
your content and your style.
1154
01:09:12,649 --> 01:09:15,939
Cavett:
I've always liked Jane,
and I always admired
1155
01:09:16,029 --> 01:09:17,779
her guts,
but I worried about her.
1156
01:09:17,859 --> 01:09:23,479
She was, to use the mildest
possible word, hated.
1157
01:09:24,689 --> 01:09:27,439
Hayden:
I mean, you had people
in legislatures arguing
1158
01:09:27,529 --> 01:09:30,659
that she should have
her tongue cut out and that
she should be hung and so on.
1159
01:09:30,739 --> 01:09:34,279
I think, also,
part of it was that
she was very effective.
1160
01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:38,069
So, she had to be
quickly stereotyped
and-- and gotten rid of.
1161
01:09:38,149 --> 01:09:40,069
♪ ♪
1162
01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:44,939
It was McCarthyism
recycled under Nixon,
1163
01:09:45,029 --> 01:09:47,859
and they just tried to smear
her reputation over and over.
1164
01:09:47,939 --> 01:09:50,359
They would have killed her
if they could.
1165
01:09:52,109 --> 01:09:56,029
Nixon, of course, had already
advocated bombing the dikes.
1166
01:09:56,109 --> 01:09:58,189
One reason he did not
1167
01:09:58,279 --> 01:10:01,989
is that Jane Fonda was brave
enough to stand on those dikes
1168
01:10:02,069 --> 01:10:04,699
and denounce
what would happen
1169
01:10:04,779 --> 01:10:09,319
to hundred of thousands
of peasants if the dikes
were bombed.
1170
01:10:09,399 --> 01:10:12,529
She was willing to be
attacked over that.
1171
01:10:13,279 --> 01:10:15,319
Abbie Hoffman:
I consider Jane Fonda
one of the--
1172
01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:18,649
the most courageous women
of our time, probably
the most courageous...
1173
01:10:18,739 --> 01:10:21,989
-...she made a conversion
from a life that was so sterile
1174
01:10:22,069 --> 01:10:25,029
and easy to live
into a life that's filled
1175
01:10:25,109 --> 01:10:29,239
with harassment and ridicule
and requires real courage.
1176
01:10:30,779 --> 01:10:34,159
Jane:
I'm proud
of most of what I did,
1177
01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:37,689
and I'm very sorry
for some of what I did.
1178
01:10:37,779 --> 01:10:39,909
♪ ♪
1179
01:10:42,899 --> 01:10:47,399
In Hanoi, I had met
a number of POWs,
and we talked,
1180
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:51,479
about the World Series,
primarily, and about
some of their experiences.
1181
01:10:51,569 --> 01:10:53,529
♪ ♪
1182
01:10:53,609 --> 01:10:55,739
But when the POWs
came home,
1183
01:10:55,819 --> 01:11:00,319
certain POWs were handpicked
to travel around the country
1184
01:11:00,399 --> 01:11:02,979
talking about torture.
1185
01:11:03,069 --> 01:11:05,739
If Ms. Fonda thinks
for a minute
1186
01:11:05,819 --> 01:11:10,029
that any of the people
that she saw were able
to speak freely,
1187
01:11:10,109 --> 01:11:11,939
she's got
another thing coming.
1188
01:11:12,029 --> 01:11:14,739
I think coerced
is a very mild word.
1189
01:11:14,819 --> 01:11:17,529
I'd use the word tortured,
initially.
1190
01:11:17,609 --> 01:11:19,779
I think they're lying,
and I think they're not only
going to have to live
1191
01:11:19,859 --> 01:11:23,399
with the fact that they were
carrying out acts of murder
1192
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,899
for the rest of their lives,
they're also going to have
to live with the fact
1193
01:11:26,979 --> 01:11:28,770
that they're lying
on their consciousness...
1194
01:11:28,859 --> 01:11:32,029
Jane:
Torture of POWs had ended
1195
01:11:32,109 --> 01:11:35,319
in North Vietnam in 1969.
1196
01:11:35,649 --> 01:11:38,109
Three years before I went there.
1197
01:11:38,189 --> 01:11:39,770
Man:
This court finds you guilty
1198
01:11:39,859 --> 01:11:42,569
of the crime of high treason
against the United States.
1199
01:11:44,529 --> 01:11:47,859
Cavett:
Jane gave as good as she got
when she was... attacked.
1200
01:11:48,689 --> 01:11:52,439
But Jane had a way
of making things worse
for herself.
1201
01:11:52,529 --> 01:11:54,449
Never before
in the history of warfare
1202
01:11:54,529 --> 01:11:57,449
have prisoners of war
come back looking
like football players.
1203
01:11:57,529 --> 01:12:01,069
Never in the history of war
have men come back
and been able
1204
01:12:01,149 --> 01:12:03,609
to come off planes,
saluting smartly
and hug their wives.
1205
01:12:03,689 --> 01:12:05,439
And we should try
to help each other
understand
1206
01:12:05,529 --> 01:12:07,909
why these men
are being used this way.
1207
01:12:07,979 --> 01:12:11,109
Not do ourselves and them
the disservice of making them
into heroes.
1208
01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:14,439
Why not the legless
and armless vets who have
come back to welfare?
1209
01:12:14,529 --> 01:12:17,779
Why not all those men
who died over there
on the ground--
1210
01:12:21,529 --> 01:12:23,109
You're a gutless
little traitor!
1211
01:12:29,899 --> 01:12:31,109
♪ ♪
1212
01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:35,819
Jane:
I was so angry
that Nixon
1213
01:12:35,899 --> 01:12:39,819
used freeing the POWS
and bringing them home
1214
01:12:39,899 --> 01:12:41,649
as a justification
1215
01:12:41,739 --> 01:12:45,739
for continuing the war and
carpet-bombing North Vietnam.
1216
01:12:46,689 --> 01:12:50,479
I have no idea what it
must be like to be a POW.
1217
01:12:50,569 --> 01:12:54,449
I do know that they were used
by the government.
1218
01:12:57,899 --> 01:13:03,109
Jane: It was a very...
tumultuous and polarized time.
1219
01:13:04,189 --> 01:13:06,770
There was a lot of
anger and blame,
1220
01:13:06,859 --> 01:13:11,149
and for myself, I really,
I didn't know
1221
01:13:11,229 --> 01:13:16,979
always how to channel
my anger in constructive ways.
1222
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:22,359
I killed a lot of people,
and I live with
a lot of nightmares!
1223
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,520
And then I got shot
in this country's war.
1224
01:13:26,609 --> 01:13:28,529
Jane:
I heard Ron Kovic speak
1225
01:13:28,609 --> 01:13:31,609
at a very big rally
of a couple thousand people.
1226
01:13:32,649 --> 01:13:35,729
He was paralyzed
during the Vietnam War,
1227
01:13:35,819 --> 01:13:38,529
and he became an activist
with the GI Movement.
1228
01:13:38,609 --> 01:13:43,029
He said,
"I've lost my body, yeah,
but I've gained my mind."
1229
01:13:43,109 --> 01:13:46,319
And I thought, I could
build a movie around that.
1230
01:13:46,399 --> 01:13:48,779
♪ ♪
1231
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,359
♪ Once I was a soldier ♪
1232
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,020
You're a mess.
1233
01:13:54,109 --> 01:13:55,989
♪ ♪
1234
01:13:57,649 --> 01:13:59,729
Were you wounded in 'Nam?
1235
01:13:59,819 --> 01:14:01,239
Right.
1236
01:14:01,319 --> 01:14:04,029
When did it happen?
1237
01:14:05,859 --> 01:14:08,689
A long time ago.
1238
01:14:10,359 --> 01:14:12,279
My husband
just went over there.
1239
01:14:12,359 --> 01:14:14,239
Poor bastard.
1240
01:14:14,319 --> 01:14:17,109
♪ Once I was a lover ♪
1241
01:14:18,359 --> 01:14:22,069
Jane:
The studios didn't want
to make a film about the war.
1242
01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:26,529
It took six years until
we finally could get it made.
1243
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:33,189
I had been working
with returned veterans from
Vietnam for several years.
1244
01:14:36,279 --> 01:14:38,449
It was a story
about coming home
1245
01:14:38,529 --> 01:14:41,159
after being through
what they had been through.
1246
01:14:41,229 --> 01:14:44,729
If it's over with us,
it's over!
1247
01:14:46,029 --> 01:14:48,239
Well, what are you saying?
That you're not even gonna
make the effort?
1248
01:14:48,319 --> 01:14:50,989
:
What I'm saying is...
1249
01:14:51,069 --> 01:14:53,609
-I don't belong in this house!
-Please--
1250
01:14:53,689 --> 01:14:56,189
And they're saying
that I don't belong over there!
1251
01:14:58,189 --> 01:15:00,399
Luke Martin: You know,
you wanna be a part of
it and patriotic,
1252
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,060
and go out and...
1253
01:15:02,149 --> 01:15:06,569
get your licks in
at the US of A, and...
1254
01:15:08,979 --> 01:15:12,939
and... when you get over there,
1255
01:15:13,029 --> 01:15:15,569
it's a totally
different situation.
1256
01:15:16,689 --> 01:15:18,060
I mean...
1257
01:15:20,279 --> 01:15:22,199
...you grow up real quick,
1258
01:15:23,399 --> 01:15:25,979
because all you're
seeing is, um,
1259
01:15:26,069 --> 01:15:27,949
a lot of death.
1260
01:15:28,029 --> 01:15:29,699
♪ ♪
1261
01:15:31,069 --> 01:15:33,489
Jane:
There were soldiers
who came back feeling
1262
01:15:33,569 --> 01:15:35,569
that they should
never have gone.
1263
01:15:38,609 --> 01:15:40,149
There were also men,
1264
01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:42,310
even though they
were physically damaged,
1265
01:15:42,399 --> 01:15:46,649
who came back
still staunch believers.
1266
01:15:46,739 --> 01:15:48,359
♪ ♪
1267
01:15:50,229 --> 01:15:51,479
I feel...
1268
01:15:51,569 --> 01:15:54,359
just as compassionate
for them as I do
1269
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:55,979
for the other soldiers.
1270
01:15:56,069 --> 01:15:58,569
♪ ♪
1271
01:16:04,109 --> 01:16:06,939
To men who were,
in Vietnam, who...
1272
01:16:09,819 --> 01:16:11,859
who I hurt
1273
01:16:11,939 --> 01:16:14,899
or whose pain I caused to--
1274
01:16:14,979 --> 01:16:18,859
to deepen because of things
that I said or I did, uh...
1275
01:16:18,939 --> 01:16:22,229
I-I feel that I owe them
an apology.
1276
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,729
My intentions were never
to hurt them or make
their situation worse.
1277
01:16:27,819 --> 01:16:29,489
It was... It was the contrary.
1278
01:16:29,569 --> 01:16:32,609
I was trying to help
end the killing, end the war.
1279
01:16:35,649 --> 01:16:38,029
But there were times
when I was thoughtless
and careless about it,
1280
01:16:38,109 --> 01:16:41,989
and I'm-- and I am...
very sorry that I hurt them,
1281
01:16:42,069 --> 01:16:45,489
and I want to apologize to them
and to their families.
1282
01:16:49,319 --> 01:16:51,279
♪ ♪
1283
01:16:56,649 --> 01:16:59,229
Jane:
During the time that it took
to make Coming Home,
1284
01:16:59,319 --> 01:17:01,489
I was making other movies.
1285
01:17:02,319 --> 01:17:04,939
But a lot of that time,
I was on the road with Tom.
1286
01:17:05,029 --> 01:17:07,199
♪ ♪
1287
01:17:09,109 --> 01:17:13,569
Tom said,
"We have to go
to the grassroots.
1288
01:17:13,649 --> 01:17:17,569
"We have to speak
to the silent majority.
1289
01:17:17,649 --> 01:17:19,729
"Let's do a 60-city tour,
1290
01:17:19,819 --> 01:17:23,859
over three months,
across the United States."
1291
01:17:23,939 --> 01:17:27,649
And within weeks, we created
the Indochina Peace Campaign.
1292
01:17:27,739 --> 01:17:29,989
♪ ♪
1293
01:17:31,979 --> 01:17:35,149
We would sleep
in people's houses,
you know, waterbeds.
1294
01:17:35,229 --> 01:17:38,439
Sometimes, we were both sq--
in a twin bed.
1295
01:17:38,529 --> 01:17:42,949
And it was in a motor home,
driving toward Buffalo,
1296
01:17:43,029 --> 01:17:47,529
when I became impregnated
with Troy.
1297
01:17:49,029 --> 01:17:52,989
I remember we called
Tom's mother, Jean,
who lived in Detroit,
1298
01:17:53,069 --> 01:17:56,199
and she said,
"You know, you're gonna
have to get married."
1299
01:17:57,359 --> 01:17:59,569
We thought that was bourgeois.
1300
01:17:59,649 --> 01:18:02,939
And she said, "You know,
what are you gonna do when you
go on The Johnny Carson Show
1301
01:18:03,029 --> 01:18:06,159
"and you wanna talk
about Vietnam, and
they wanna talk about
1302
01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:10,189
"how come you're having a kid
and you're not married,"
and that made sense.
1303
01:18:10,279 --> 01:18:13,449
:
I really wanted to get married,
to tell you the truth.
1304
01:18:13,529 --> 01:18:16,699
Hayden:
We got a gay
Episcopal priest,
1305
01:18:16,779 --> 01:18:21,489
who I think was thrown
out of the order for
having married us,
1306
01:18:21,569 --> 01:18:24,359
and, uh, life went on.
1307
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,729
♪ ♪
1308
01:18:29,569 --> 01:18:31,989
Jane: With Troy,
we didn't want him to have
1309
01:18:32,069 --> 01:18:35,199
his father's name
just automatically,
or Fonda.
1310
01:18:35,279 --> 01:18:38,529
You know, we wanted him
to have a name that didn't
have so much baggage.
1311
01:18:38,609 --> 01:18:43,399
So we named him
Troy O'Donovan Garity.
1312
01:18:45,069 --> 01:18:48,319
Troy Garity:
My parents made
a conscious decision to...
1313
01:18:48,399 --> 01:18:52,979
try to live as...
normally as possible.
1314
01:18:54,279 --> 01:18:57,659
I know that that sounds insane
because they are abnormal.
1315
01:18:57,739 --> 01:19:00,739
-Ah! The winner is Jane Fonda
in Coming Home !
1316
01:19:03,819 --> 01:19:07,359
Garity:
We went to the Oscars
in a station wagon.
1317
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,189
My father wore like a--
the ugliest suit in the world.
1318
01:19:10,279 --> 01:19:14,659
I wore a T-shirt
with a hand-screened
tuxedo thing on it.
1319
01:19:16,319 --> 01:19:19,489
It wasn't
a normal family unit.
1320
01:19:19,569 --> 01:19:23,699
Like we weren't,
you know, vacationing
in tropical paradises.
1321
01:19:23,779 --> 01:19:26,659
You know, we holidayed
in conflict zones.
1322
01:19:27,979 --> 01:19:30,020
I was potty-trained
1323
01:19:30,109 --> 01:19:31,989
in a Vietnam bomb shelter.
1324
01:19:33,319 --> 01:19:35,149
I just got dragged with them.
1325
01:19:36,189 --> 01:19:41,399
Being in an IRA, you know,
stronghold in Belfast,
1326
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,560
and a boy comes in
with his thumb blown off,
1327
01:19:44,649 --> 01:19:48,729
and my father dips the rag
in his blood and's like,
"This is your blood.
1328
01:19:48,819 --> 01:19:51,569
This is your fucking blood.
This is your people."
1329
01:19:51,649 --> 01:19:53,069
I'm five.
1330
01:19:53,149 --> 01:19:54,859
♪ ♪
1331
01:19:54,939 --> 01:19:57,189
My first 13 birthday parties
were fundraisers.
1332
01:19:57,279 --> 01:20:01,279
Anything
that represented, like,
wealth or establishment
1333
01:20:01,359 --> 01:20:04,399
was looked on with
a lot of skepticism.
1334
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,899
"If my coworker
can't have a pool,
1335
01:20:06,979 --> 01:20:08,899
"then I'm not having
a fucking pool.
1336
01:20:08,979 --> 01:20:12,520
I'd rather take
that money give it to the
United Farm Workers Fund."
1337
01:20:14,399 --> 01:20:17,569
You know, the house I was
raised in, there was another
family living...
1338
01:20:17,649 --> 01:20:19,319
in the house with us.
1339
01:20:19,399 --> 01:20:22,319
Uh, at times, we had
organizers sleeping
on the porch.
1340
01:20:22,399 --> 01:20:24,609
There was a homeless person
that slept under the house.
1341
01:20:24,689 --> 01:20:27,729
I would come home sometimes
and he would be dressed in...
1342
01:20:27,819 --> 01:20:29,939
in my parents' clothes. Yeah.
1343
01:20:30,029 --> 01:20:32,989
Jane:
They were one house
right next to the other.
1344
01:20:33,069 --> 01:20:37,529
Nightwatchman on one side
and a Marxist writer
on the other.
1345
01:20:38,399 --> 01:20:42,359
And we lived in this house
that was-- my dad called it
a shack.
1346
01:20:43,359 --> 01:20:45,779
We had furniture
from Salvation Army.
1347
01:20:45,859 --> 01:20:49,029
We had no dishwasher,
we had no washing machine.
1348
01:20:50,029 --> 01:20:52,159
It was...
1349
01:20:53,399 --> 01:20:56,779
I was very happy,
and I was very proud of myself.
1350
01:21:00,069 --> 01:21:03,609
I wanted to show Tom
that I could do it.
1351
01:21:03,689 --> 01:21:07,399
I didn't want him to think
that I was... spoiled.
1352
01:21:08,739 --> 01:21:10,989
Hayden:
We were intensely in love,
1353
01:21:11,069 --> 01:21:13,859
pursuing common life goals.
1354
01:21:14,779 --> 01:21:19,409
The neighborhood was swollen
with activists, of all kinds.
1355
01:21:20,739 --> 01:21:25,819
Paula Weinstein:
It was a really, tiny, little
version of-- of a commune.
1356
01:21:25,899 --> 01:21:27,649
I would be invited
all the time to come
1357
01:21:27,739 --> 01:21:29,529
for dinner
and there was no dinner.
1358
01:21:29,609 --> 01:21:32,529
And I was like,
"I don't understand,
what happened to dinner?"
1359
01:21:32,609 --> 01:21:35,229
It was espresso.
Jane's not a cook.
1360
01:21:36,779 --> 01:21:39,359
We would get in our
little Volkswagen Bug,
1361
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,569
and go to the local
pizzeria and...
1362
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,689
it was wonderful.
1363
01:21:44,779 --> 01:21:46,699
But when you combine
1364
01:21:46,779 --> 01:21:49,029
the fever of celebrity
1365
01:21:49,109 --> 01:21:52,029
with the furor of...
1366
01:21:52,109 --> 01:21:55,529
anti-war, um, activities,
1367
01:21:55,609 --> 01:22:00,399
um, there was a lot of heat
around our home.
1368
01:22:03,109 --> 01:22:06,069
Jane:
I will never forget the day
that we came home,
1369
01:22:06,149 --> 01:22:07,899
there wasn't a drawer
in the house
1370
01:22:07,979 --> 01:22:10,060
that wasn't pulled
out and turned over.
1371
01:22:10,149 --> 01:22:12,649
Everything was torn
out of the closets.
1372
01:22:12,739 --> 01:22:14,699
Papers were rifled,
desks were open.
1373
01:22:14,779 --> 01:22:17,239
I mean, someone had gone
through our house.
1374
01:22:17,319 --> 01:22:21,399
And it was done so blatantly,
and mess--
1375
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:25,439
I mean, I knew that it was...
to scare us.
1376
01:22:25,529 --> 01:22:27,319
♪ ♪
1377
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,939
I was aware
that I was being followed,
1378
01:22:32,029 --> 01:22:34,909
and there was very little
attempt to disguise it.
1379
01:22:34,979 --> 01:22:39,479
There would be these
guys in trench coats
with dark glasses.
1380
01:22:41,529 --> 01:22:44,779
The FBI would follow
Vanessa to school.
1381
01:22:44,859 --> 01:22:48,069
The more I saw them
the more my attitude was,
1382
01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:49,899
"You think
I'm gonna back down?"
1383
01:22:49,979 --> 01:22:51,560
I mean, that's one thing,
you know,
1384
01:22:51,649 --> 01:22:53,529
every time people think
they're gonna scare me,
1385
01:22:53,609 --> 01:22:55,689
then that's the wrong way
to approach it.
1386
01:22:55,779 --> 01:22:57,739
Because, no.
1387
01:22:57,819 --> 01:23:00,029
♪ ♪
1388
01:23:01,899 --> 01:23:07,189
I saw, with Tom,
what it meant
to build a movement,
1389
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:10,979
what organizing meant.
1390
01:23:13,149 --> 01:23:16,479
He realized that what needed
to be focused on
1391
01:23:16,569 --> 01:23:20,899
was moving power out
of the hands of the super rich
and the corporations,
1392
01:23:20,979 --> 01:23:25,439
into the hands of people,
the way it should be
in a democracy.
1393
01:23:25,529 --> 01:23:30,239
So, the Campaign for
Economic Democracy evolved.
1394
01:23:30,319 --> 01:23:35,319
We knew that we wanted
to spread a message
throughout the country.
1395
01:23:36,529 --> 01:23:39,409
It was difficult
because we had to raise
so much money,
1396
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,060
and it was during
a recession.
1397
01:23:43,569 --> 01:23:47,649
So Tom and I talked
about this and we thought,
"Well, let's start a business
1398
01:23:47,739 --> 01:23:49,989
that will fund the work."
1399
01:23:50,069 --> 01:23:53,489
We talked about...
"Maybe a restaurant."
1400
01:23:53,569 --> 01:23:56,149
That would have been a disaster.
1401
01:23:56,229 --> 01:23:59,770
Then we thought,
"Maybe a car wash
that doesn't rip people off."
1402
01:23:59,859 --> 01:24:03,439
Well, that-- You know,
I mean, we had no idea.
1403
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:09,020
And then one day,
I suddenly thought...
1404
01:24:09,109 --> 01:24:10,939
"The Workout.
1405
01:24:11,029 --> 01:24:14,699
If there's one thing
I understand, it's working out."
1406
01:24:17,609 --> 01:24:19,979
Jane:
One camera.
1407
01:24:20,069 --> 01:24:22,489
There were no teleprompters
or anything like that.
1408
01:24:22,569 --> 01:24:25,239
I wrote the script sitting
on a floor of a hotel room.
1409
01:24:25,319 --> 01:24:27,489
We did our own hair
and makeup.
1410
01:24:27,569 --> 01:24:30,069
I mean, it was
a spit and a prayer.
1411
01:24:30,149 --> 01:24:32,729
And the rest is history.
1412
01:24:32,819 --> 01:24:34,279
♪ ♪
1413
01:24:35,939 --> 01:24:39,520
That video came out,
and almost overnight
1414
01:24:39,609 --> 01:24:43,069
became and remains
the number one
home video of all-time.
1415
01:24:44,649 --> 01:24:46,399
Are you ready to do the workout?
1416
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:50,189
And it was owned
by the Campaign for
Economic Democracy.
1417
01:24:50,279 --> 01:24:52,699
The organization owned it,
not me,
1418
01:24:52,779 --> 01:24:55,069
and all the profits
went into the organization.
1419
01:24:55,149 --> 01:24:58,189
Right, two.
And back, two.
1420
01:24:58,279 --> 01:25:01,529
It sold 17 million copies.
1421
01:25:01,609 --> 01:25:04,739
A video industry developed,
because everyone wanted
1422
01:25:04,819 --> 01:25:08,449
to buy my video and use it
over and over and over.
1423
01:25:08,529 --> 01:25:11,409
I'm the first
non-engineer
1424
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,729
to be inducted into
the Video Hall of Fame.
1425
01:25:14,819 --> 01:25:17,779
You know, they credited me
for building the video industry.
1426
01:25:18,979 --> 01:25:21,399
It was a pretty interesting
time for me
1427
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,439
because people recognized me
in a whole different way.
1428
01:25:25,529 --> 01:25:30,319
Women would come up to me
and say, you know, "I don't
need sleeping pills anymore."
1429
01:25:30,979 --> 01:25:36,359
Another one would talk
about how she felt different,
she felt stronger.
1430
01:25:37,859 --> 01:25:41,069
It's funny,
when I thought about it,
that was true for me.
1431
01:25:41,149 --> 01:25:45,029
You know, I had suffered
from an eating disorder
for a long time.
1432
01:25:46,569 --> 01:25:49,739
Nobody knew. You know,
one of the things about bulimia
1433
01:25:49,819 --> 01:25:52,529
is that it's a...
it's a disease of denial.
1434
01:25:53,399 --> 01:25:55,779
You know, it takes
a lot of subterfuge.
1435
01:25:55,859 --> 01:25:57,609
♪ ♪
1436
01:25:57,689 --> 01:26:01,109
You're very tired,
and you're very angry,
1437
01:26:01,189 --> 01:26:03,770
and you're very self-hating.
1438
01:26:03,859 --> 01:26:05,739
And I realized,
1439
01:26:05,819 --> 01:26:08,239
I'm heading into
a really dark place,
1440
01:26:08,319 --> 01:26:10,939
and I'm-- I either am gonna
head to the light
1441
01:26:11,029 --> 01:26:13,069
or I'm gonna succumb
to the dark,
1442
01:26:13,149 --> 01:26:14,569
and it's a life or death thing.
1443
01:26:14,649 --> 01:26:15,899
♪ ♪
1444
01:26:15,979 --> 01:26:18,149
I went cold turkey.
1445
01:26:18,229 --> 01:26:21,310
It was really, really hard.
1446
01:26:22,399 --> 01:26:26,069
There was something
about taking control
of my body, in that way,
1447
01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:28,649
that got me
over the addiction.
1448
01:26:28,739 --> 01:26:30,949
It changed my perception
of myself.
1449
01:26:32,939 --> 01:26:35,819
I think it was
Thomas Jefferson who said,
1450
01:26:35,899 --> 01:26:39,529
"Revolution begins
in the muscles."
1451
01:26:39,609 --> 01:26:41,649
♪ ♪
1452
01:26:41,739 --> 01:26:44,529
And it was
a revolution for me,
1453
01:26:44,609 --> 01:26:47,609
but it was
completely unintentional,
1454
01:26:47,689 --> 01:26:51,609
you know, I did the workout
to fund the organization.
1455
01:26:52,739 --> 01:26:55,069
It was for Tom.
1456
01:26:55,779 --> 01:26:59,319
Weinstein:
They formed a team
around politics,
1457
01:26:59,399 --> 01:27:02,319
and around the children.
1458
01:27:02,399 --> 01:27:05,319
But she didn't have
as much confidence
1459
01:27:05,399 --> 01:27:08,359
as I think
she should've in those days,
1460
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:14,609
And Tom is so compelling
that he's a hard force
to argue with.
1461
01:27:15,979 --> 01:27:19,020
Jane: You know, here is
a man who was considered
an intellectual,
1462
01:27:19,109 --> 01:27:21,819
he was considered
a star in the movement,
1463
01:27:21,899 --> 01:27:24,399
and he'd written--
I don't remember how
many books he'd written.
1464
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:28,649
And then I write
Jane Fonda's Workout Book,
1465
01:27:28,739 --> 01:27:32,529
and it becomes the number one
on the New York Times
for two years.
1466
01:27:32,609 --> 01:27:37,189
Two solid years.
1467
01:27:37,279 --> 01:27:40,199
The Workout Book ?
1468
01:27:40,279 --> 01:27:43,909
I mean, if I was him,
I would have had
a certain degree of resentment.
1469
01:27:43,979 --> 01:27:45,520
♪ ♪
1470
01:27:45,609 --> 01:27:49,359
He thought
I was superficial.
1471
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,439
That I wasn't smart enough.
1472
01:27:53,609 --> 01:27:56,109
But I was producing
my own movies,
1473
01:27:56,189 --> 01:28:00,729
the kind of movies
that say the things
that I think need saying.
1474
01:28:00,819 --> 01:28:02,449
Hello, this is Kimberly Wells,
1475
01:28:02,529 --> 01:28:04,779
and I'm here at the Ventana
Nuclear Power Plant,
1476
01:28:04,859 --> 01:28:07,569
owned and operated by
California Gas & Electric.
1477
01:28:07,649 --> 01:28:09,569
Jane:
China Syndrome was the story
1478
01:28:09,649 --> 01:28:12,229
of a cover-up
at a nuclear power plant.
1479
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,899
This is Jack Godell.
We have a serious condition.
1480
01:28:18,979 --> 01:28:22,689
You get everybody
into safety areas and make sure
that they stay there.
1481
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,729
-Radiation in containment!
1482
01:28:25,819 --> 01:28:28,449
Jane: We were
very much attacked for,
1483
01:28:28,529 --> 01:28:30,569
for making it, the movie.
1484
01:28:30,649 --> 01:28:34,229
But then, the movie came out
and two weeks later,
Three Mile Island happened.
1485
01:28:34,319 --> 01:28:36,819
Man :
All pregnant women
and preschool children
1486
01:28:36,899 --> 01:28:40,279
should evacuate
out of a five-mile radius...
1487
01:28:40,359 --> 01:28:43,149
Newswoman:
The China Syndrome
has given Jane Fonda
a new standing
1488
01:28:43,229 --> 01:28:44,609
in American society.
1489
01:28:44,689 --> 01:28:46,770
She's now a heroine
in her own right.
1490
01:28:46,859 --> 01:28:49,649
She's the Cassandra
of the Nuclear Holocaust.
1491
01:28:50,399 --> 01:28:53,319
Jane:
It's shocking that people
from this area
1492
01:28:53,399 --> 01:28:55,279
had to go to see
The China Syndrome
1493
01:28:55,359 --> 01:28:57,989
in order to try to understand
what was happening to them.
1494
01:28:58,739 --> 01:29:03,739
Redford: Jane has always
had an impulse to go
right for the heart of things.
1495
01:29:03,819 --> 01:29:07,779
We were aligned in the same way
that things were not right.
1496
01:29:07,859 --> 01:29:11,739
The question was
how we were gonna go about it,
1497
01:29:11,819 --> 01:29:14,359
and I felt, if I spoke out,
1498
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,439
that there would be
a lot of resentment.
1499
01:29:18,319 --> 01:29:20,319
That didn't mean you couldn't
do it that way, and that's
the choice that Jane made.
1500
01:29:20,399 --> 01:29:22,979
And it had a lot of strength
and a lot of power to it.
1501
01:29:23,069 --> 01:29:25,819
She made a lot of enemies,
but that's gonna happen
1502
01:29:25,899 --> 01:29:29,029
when you step up and speak
on the national stage.
1503
01:29:30,859 --> 01:29:34,979
What I admire about her
is that she did it
and she didn't look back,
1504
01:29:35,069 --> 01:29:37,359
she didn't change her tone
or her voice.
1505
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,479
She said,
"This is what I believe,
1506
01:29:39,569 --> 01:29:41,609
"this is what I feel, and this
is what I'm gonna say."
1507
01:29:41,689 --> 01:29:43,979
♪ Tumble outta bed
and stumble to the kitchen ♪
1508
01:29:44,069 --> 01:29:46,489
♪ Pour myself
a cup of ambition ♪
1509
01:29:46,569 --> 01:29:49,189
♪ And yawn and stretch
and try to come to life ♪
1510
01:29:49,279 --> 01:29:51,489
Jane:
Forty million women
work in offices,
1511
01:29:51,569 --> 01:29:54,489
and for the first time
in history, they're
beginning to organize,
1512
01:29:54,569 --> 01:30:00,029
they're beginning to say,
"We deserve respect, we deserve
equal pay for equal work."
1513
01:30:00,109 --> 01:30:03,529
♪ Workin' 9 to 5
What a way... ♪
1514
01:30:03,609 --> 01:30:05,739
Lily Tomlin:
Jane is always looking for
1515
01:30:05,819 --> 01:30:09,649
what's the most important
current issue to deal with,
1516
01:30:09,739 --> 01:30:12,529
and 9 to 5 was her invention.
1517
01:30:12,609 --> 01:30:15,859
She decided to do a movie
about the 9-to-5 women.
1518
01:30:15,939 --> 01:30:19,520
Well, look, couldn't
we just all get together
and... and complain?
1519
01:30:19,609 --> 01:30:21,149
Complain to who?
1520
01:30:21,229 --> 01:30:23,979
Let's face it, we are
in a pink-collared ghetto.
1521
01:30:24,069 --> 01:30:25,859
Let's have another drink.
1522
01:30:25,939 --> 01:30:28,399
Jane:
We all knew we were doing
something that was important
1523
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,899
for women office workers,
1524
01:30:30,979 --> 01:30:32,399
because we dealt with
all the issues:
1525
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,859
sexual harassment,
unequal pay...
1526
01:30:34,939 --> 01:30:37,229
♪ ♪
1527
01:30:37,319 --> 01:30:39,029
...the importance
of flex hours,
1528
01:30:39,109 --> 01:30:42,069
the importance of childcare,
all these things.
1529
01:30:42,149 --> 01:30:43,479
♪ ♪
1530
01:30:45,529 --> 01:30:48,029
Garity:
My mom was using film
1531
01:30:48,109 --> 01:30:53,529
as a platform to
try to affect change.
1532
01:30:55,529 --> 01:30:57,569
My parents
were really doing it.
1533
01:30:57,649 --> 01:30:59,899
They were
boots-on-the-ground,
1534
01:30:59,979 --> 01:31:03,109
dedicated mission,
"We're going forward."
1535
01:31:03,189 --> 01:31:06,020
That's where their
heads were at.
1536
01:31:06,109 --> 01:31:09,239
My parents walked the walk,
for sure.
1537
01:31:09,319 --> 01:31:11,649
♪ ♪
1538
01:31:19,029 --> 01:31:24,069
They bought these hundred acres
on top of this mountain
in Santa Barbara
1539
01:31:24,149 --> 01:31:27,279
and started a summer camp.
1540
01:31:27,359 --> 01:31:29,939
I mean,
it was every walk of life.
1541
01:31:30,029 --> 01:31:33,819
Children of farm workers,
the children of
the heads of studios,
1542
01:31:33,899 --> 01:31:36,649
the children
of Black Panthers.
1543
01:31:38,739 --> 01:31:41,279
Weinstein:
Laurel Springs was
really a fantasy
1544
01:31:41,359 --> 01:31:44,069
that they, together,
made a reality.
1545
01:31:44,149 --> 01:31:46,479
If you're a true
movement person,
1546
01:31:46,569 --> 01:31:50,109
you understand about
passing it along,
1547
01:31:50,189 --> 01:31:55,109
and watering the fields,
and making the seeds grow.
1548
01:31:55,189 --> 01:31:57,939
Garity:
We were all on this
mountaintop together
1549
01:31:58,029 --> 01:32:00,609
and we were forced to coexist.
1550
01:32:00,689 --> 01:32:04,520
And it was at Laurel Springs
that I met Lulu.
1551
01:32:07,529 --> 01:32:11,989
Jane:
Lulu, when she first came
to camp, she was maybe 12.
1552
01:32:12,069 --> 01:32:15,649
And she was... giggly,
and bright, and...
1553
01:32:15,739 --> 01:32:20,029
funny, with this
wonderful laugh and
everyone just adored her.
1554
01:32:20,109 --> 01:32:24,279
She came two summers,
and then she disappeared.
1555
01:32:25,859 --> 01:32:29,899
And when she came back,
she was a different person.
1556
01:32:31,069 --> 01:32:36,149
She had been
sexually abused repeatedly
by an acting coach.
1557
01:32:36,229 --> 01:32:38,479
She was shut down.
1558
01:32:38,569 --> 01:32:43,069
Her life was dysfunctional,
disorganized.
1559
01:32:43,149 --> 01:32:46,899
Her parents had
been Black Panthers.
Her father was in jail.
1560
01:32:46,979 --> 01:32:49,979
She was failing in school.
1561
01:32:50,069 --> 01:32:55,239
It was like the flame
had gotten real tiny, but it
was still there, you could see.
1562
01:32:55,319 --> 01:32:58,699
And I said, "I'll tell you
what, Lulu,
1563
01:32:58,779 --> 01:33:02,989
"if you bring your
grades up to a B,
1564
01:33:03,069 --> 01:33:07,399
"I'll bring you to Los Angeles,
to Santa Monica, where we live,
1565
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:13,149
"and... you can live with us
and go to school down there,
1566
01:33:13,229 --> 01:33:15,149
if your mother
lets that happen."
1567
01:33:15,229 --> 01:33:17,399
And that's
what happened.
1568
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,359
Lulu Williams:
She didn't even say,
"I want to adopt you
or I want you to be
1569
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,649
my daughter." It was
just-- it just kinda
evolved into that,
1570
01:33:21,739 --> 01:33:24,699
'cause it really just was
"I want to help this child."
1571
01:33:24,779 --> 01:33:28,909
So when I came, I just started
living in their house, and then
it became, you know,
1572
01:33:28,979 --> 01:33:31,229
I was just another kid
in the house.
1573
01:33:31,319 --> 01:33:34,189
♪ ♪
1574
01:33:35,529 --> 01:33:39,569
Garity:
It all goes back
to my mother's childhood.
1575
01:33:39,649 --> 01:33:43,779
I think her light was
almost put out...
1576
01:33:43,859 --> 01:33:45,689
when she was a child.
1577
01:33:47,149 --> 01:33:53,229
So, I think she likes to find
people who are in danger of
losing theirs, and re-- and...
1578
01:33:53,319 --> 01:33:55,529
and rekindle it.
1579
01:33:58,279 --> 01:34:03,659
No, my mom was...
not orphaned,
but pretty damn close.
1580
01:34:12,359 --> 01:34:15,779
Jane:
I had always wanted to do
a movie with my dad,
1581
01:34:15,859 --> 01:34:20,069
and this play seemed like
a perfect thing.
1582
01:34:21,979 --> 01:34:23,899
Garity:
She bought On Golden Pond
for them,
1583
01:34:23,979 --> 01:34:27,229
she produced it,
she made it for him,
1584
01:34:27,319 --> 01:34:33,189
to... have a deeper
shared experience with him,
before they couldn't anymore.
1585
01:34:34,229 --> 01:34:38,270
Hayden: It was about
the reconciliation
of a hard dad,
1586
01:34:38,359 --> 01:34:41,109
and a emotional daughter.
1587
01:34:41,189 --> 01:34:46,229
It was more than a script,
it was an opportunity for love
and reconciliation.
1588
01:34:52,029 --> 01:34:53,909
Hello, Norman.
1589
01:34:57,569 --> 01:35:00,149
-Oh, look at you.
-Happy birthday.
1590
01:35:00,229 --> 01:35:03,770
Look at this
little fat girl, Ethel.
1591
01:35:03,859 --> 01:35:05,649
Oh, Norman!
1592
01:35:05,739 --> 01:35:09,489
-You're as thin as a rail.
Isn't she?
-Sure...
1593
01:35:09,569 --> 01:35:12,649
Jane: Katherine Hepburn
and my father played
my parents,
1594
01:35:12,739 --> 01:35:16,319
and I was extremely
intimidated.
1595
01:35:16,399 --> 01:35:21,479
The parallels were very,
very close between
the characters, and-- and...
1596
01:35:21,569 --> 01:35:23,939
my father and I in real life.
1597
01:35:24,029 --> 01:35:26,989
But we never spoke of it.
1598
01:35:27,069 --> 01:35:31,529
We never spoke about anything
like that, ever.
1599
01:35:31,609 --> 01:35:35,649
Hayden:
There was a great deal of
invisible healing going on.
1600
01:35:35,739 --> 01:35:39,659
For Jane, it was
the ultimate catharsis.
1601
01:35:41,609 --> 01:35:45,149
Jane:
In the movie, the main scene
between Chelsea and her father
1602
01:35:45,229 --> 01:35:50,359
was a scene that, whenever
I would read it and during
every single rehearsal,
1603
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:53,520
I would become
very, very, very emotional,
1604
01:35:53,609 --> 01:35:56,739
because it was
so very close to home.
1605
01:35:58,069 --> 01:36:00,779
I wanna talk to you. I, um...
1606
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:04,979
I think that, um,
1607
01:36:05,069 --> 01:36:08,149
maybe you and I should have
the kind of relationship
that we're supposed to have.
1608
01:36:09,109 --> 01:36:10,489
What kind of
a relationship is that?
1609
01:36:12,149 --> 01:36:15,439
Well, you know, like a...
like a father and a daughter.
1610
01:36:15,529 --> 01:36:18,739
Eh, just in the nick
of time, huh?
1611
01:36:18,819 --> 01:36:20,029
Worried about the will, are you?
1612
01:36:20,109 --> 01:36:21,069
Well, I'm leaving
everything to you,
1613
01:36:21,149 --> 01:36:22,569
except what I'm taking
with me.
1614
01:36:22,649 --> 01:36:25,529
Just stop it.
1615
01:36:25,609 --> 01:36:28,069
I don't want anything.
1616
01:36:28,149 --> 01:36:32,229
It just-- it seems that
you and me have been mad
at each other for so long.
1617
01:36:32,319 --> 01:36:35,859
I didn't know we were mad.
I thought we just
didn't like each other
1618
01:36:35,939 --> 01:36:39,359
Jane:
Knowing that my father
doesn't like
1619
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:42,899
to have anything that's
not rehearsed,
1620
01:36:42,979 --> 01:36:46,359
everything has to be rehearsed
down to the nth degree,
1621
01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:53,109
I decide to save one thing
that I'm gonna do when I think
it's his last close-up,
1622
01:36:53,189 --> 01:36:55,770
because I want him...
1623
01:36:55,859 --> 01:36:59,279
to do something unplanned.
I don't know what it--
how he would react,
1624
01:36:59,359 --> 01:37:01,569
but it will be emotional.
1625
01:37:01,649 --> 01:37:03,569
I-- I wanna be your friend.
1626
01:37:03,649 --> 01:37:06,609
Jane: I reached out
and I touched his arm.
1627
01:37:06,689 --> 01:37:09,979
Does this mean you'll...
come around more often?
1628
01:37:10,069 --> 01:37:12,319
It'd mean
a lot to your mother.
1629
01:37:12,399 --> 01:37:14,029
And he put his hand up,
1630
01:37:14,689 --> 01:37:17,359
but I saw...
1631
01:37:18,319 --> 01:37:21,529
the tears in his eyes...
1632
01:37:23,689 --> 01:37:27,479
and, you know, it just--
it meant the world to me.
1633
01:37:28,569 --> 01:37:34,109
Hayden: He loved her.
That he couldn't express
it in three words
1634
01:37:34,189 --> 01:37:35,819
is a kind of tragedy.
1635
01:37:35,899 --> 01:37:41,529
But in his eyes and in his
face, he still expressed it.
1636
01:37:42,779 --> 01:37:46,489
And the winner is...
Henry Fonda, On Golden Pond.
1637
01:37:56,439 --> 01:38:01,939
Oh, Dad, I'm so happy,
and proud, for you.
1638
01:38:06,939 --> 01:38:11,149
Garity:
On Golden Pond isn't a movie.
It's a vehicle to try to make
1639
01:38:11,229 --> 01:38:13,770
her family closer.
1640
01:38:13,859 --> 01:38:19,569
Perhaps because she felt
other parts of her family...
were in limbo.
1641
01:38:19,649 --> 01:38:21,649
♪ ♪
1642
01:38:21,739 --> 01:38:25,869
You know, my sister definitely
had a harder time
1643
01:38:25,939 --> 01:38:29,189
relating with my mother
than I have.
1644
01:38:29,279 --> 01:38:32,239
Hayden:
I remember coming back
from the hospital,
1645
01:38:32,319 --> 01:38:34,529
with newborn Troy,
1646
01:38:34,609 --> 01:38:38,609
and Vanessa,
happily staring at him.
1647
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:43,319
But it was also apparent
that he was the different one.
1648
01:38:43,939 --> 01:38:46,319
He was the prince.
1649
01:38:47,779 --> 01:38:50,199
Jane:
Vanessa saw me
1650
01:38:50,279 --> 01:38:56,909
taking Troy with me,
as I had not taken her.
1651
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:02,189
And she saw me living
with Troy's father...
1652
01:39:03,939 --> 01:39:09,899
which was not her situation.
And I can't imagine that
it wasn't difficult for her.
1653
01:39:09,979 --> 01:39:15,020
Weinstein: The thing
about Jane is, she had
to learn how to be a mother...
1654
01:39:17,529 --> 01:39:21,239
because that isn't what she
experienced. She experienced,
1655
01:39:21,319 --> 01:39:23,699
"Come down and say good night
to the guests,
1656
01:39:23,779 --> 01:39:26,109
and go back upstairs and be
your perfect little selves."
1657
01:39:26,189 --> 01:39:29,899
And even thought her mother was
loving, she was clearly sad.
1658
01:39:29,979 --> 01:39:33,729
She must've, as a child,
really felt that sadness,
1659
01:39:33,819 --> 01:39:39,399
you know, it had its effect.
She's not a natural caretaker.
1660
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:43,520
She had no training
for emotional intelligence,
at all.
1661
01:39:45,149 --> 01:39:47,439
Garity:
My mother didn't have
a good example of what
1662
01:39:47,529 --> 01:39:50,569
a healthy relationship
looked like,
1663
01:39:50,649 --> 01:39:52,779
neither did my father.
1664
01:39:52,859 --> 01:39:56,479
Jane:
Neither one of us were big
on talking about our feelings.
1665
01:39:56,569 --> 01:40:03,569
Our lives became more and more
like... on two separate tracks.
1666
01:40:04,979 --> 01:40:06,310
Tom once said,
1667
01:40:06,399 --> 01:40:08,399
"If Jane and I find
ourselves together,
1668
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:10,560
it was a mistake
in scheduling."
1669
01:40:11,689 --> 01:40:16,060
I think that in the end,
neither one of us were happy.
1670
01:40:17,149 --> 01:40:19,439
Hayden:
Living with a public figure,
1671
01:40:19,529 --> 01:40:21,109
who has, uh,
1672
01:40:21,189 --> 01:40:23,649
movie studios and-- and
public relations firms working
1673
01:40:23,739 --> 01:40:26,869
night and day to make her
larger than life, uh,
1674
01:40:26,939 --> 01:40:30,689
it is-- it becomes artificial.
The house becomes a prop,
1675
01:40:30,779 --> 01:40:33,529
suddenly, uh, the bedroom
could become a prop,
1676
01:40:33,609 --> 01:40:35,439
the children are props.
1677
01:40:35,529 --> 01:40:36,449
Where's life?
1678
01:40:39,529 --> 01:40:42,159
She felt the call of Hollywood.
1679
01:40:42,229 --> 01:40:45,520
That was very jarring to me.
1680
01:40:47,609 --> 01:40:50,399
I was drinking and womanizing.
1681
01:40:52,069 --> 01:40:54,989
I wasn't ready to be
the husband of somebody
1682
01:40:55,069 --> 01:40:59,399
that was preoccupied
with being an actress.
1683
01:41:01,069 --> 01:41:03,819
Weinstein:
He was very rough on her.
1684
01:41:03,899 --> 01:41:06,859
I think she was very lonely.
1685
01:41:06,939 --> 01:41:10,859
It was a vulnerability she
couldn't allow in and I think
a truth she couldn't allow in.
1686
01:41:10,939 --> 01:41:15,479
So I think she would've
gone on accepting that.
1687
01:41:17,779 --> 01:41:20,659
He fell in love with somebody...
1688
01:41:22,939 --> 01:41:27,149
um... and I found out.
1689
01:41:27,229 --> 01:41:29,770
♪ ♪
1690
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:35,189
It did knock the foundation
out from under me because...
1691
01:41:35,279 --> 01:41:39,279
I just never could have
imagined life without Tom.
1692
01:41:40,779 --> 01:41:45,449
If I'm not with Tom Hayden,
then I'm nobody.
1693
01:41:47,359 --> 01:41:51,899
Weinstein:
Here she was alone at a
critical moment for an actress.
1694
01:41:51,979 --> 01:41:54,609
when you're still beautiful,
and sexy, and everything,
1695
01:41:54,689 --> 01:41:57,270
but the guys don't want
to play with you anymore.
1696
01:41:57,359 --> 01:42:00,439
When Redford was making
the movie Legal Eagles
1697
01:42:00,529 --> 01:42:03,859
and Debra Winger got cast,
and Jane didn't,
1698
01:42:03,939 --> 01:42:07,069
she went, "Oh my God,
it's happened.
1699
01:42:07,149 --> 01:42:10,689
"Redford isn't fighting for me,
or the studio doesn't want me,
1700
01:42:10,779 --> 01:42:13,909
they want the new,
fabulous young star."
1701
01:42:13,979 --> 01:42:17,229
Jane:
It was a very difficult time.
1702
01:42:17,319 --> 01:42:21,449
Just dark... and painful.
1703
01:42:22,779 --> 01:42:24,699
And then, a friend of mine
gave me the name
1704
01:42:24,779 --> 01:42:28,239
of this unbelievable psychic...
1705
01:42:28,319 --> 01:42:29,899
who...
1706
01:42:29,979 --> 01:42:31,979
predicted...
1707
01:42:32,069 --> 01:42:35,109
things-- I mean,
down to the minutiae.
1708
01:42:35,189 --> 01:42:41,439
She said to me, "I see money.
I see so much money."
1709
01:42:41,529 --> 01:42:43,029
♪ ♪
1710
01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:48,770
And then she said,
"And I see land...
as far as I can see."
1711
01:42:48,859 --> 01:42:49,979
♪ ♪
1712
01:42:52,189 --> 01:42:54,319
Of course,
it was Ted Turner.
1713
01:42:55,319 --> 01:42:56,569
Reporter:
The words used most often
1714
01:42:56,649 --> 01:42:58,819
to describe
Robert Edward Turner III
1715
01:42:58,899 --> 01:43:00,479
are controversial,
1716
01:43:00,569 --> 01:43:01,489
rash,
1717
01:43:01,569 --> 01:43:02,569
flamboyant,
1718
01:43:02,649 --> 01:43:03,649
controversial,
1719
01:43:03,739 --> 01:43:04,659
ambitious,
1720
01:43:04,739 --> 01:43:05,949
competitive,
1721
01:43:06,029 --> 01:43:06,739
-and controversial.
1722
01:43:06,819 --> 01:43:09,029
You bet your bippy.
1723
01:43:10,739 --> 01:43:12,909
Ted Turner:
The best advice
is never do anything.
1724
01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:16,020
You'll never get in trouble
if you don't do anything.
1725
01:43:17,229 --> 01:43:21,229
But on the other hand, you'll
never get anywhere either...
you know.
1726
01:43:23,069 --> 01:43:25,149
Faint heart ne'er won fair lady.
1727
01:43:25,229 --> 01:43:27,520
♪ ♪
1728
01:43:33,029 --> 01:43:34,779
Jane:
The day after...
1729
01:43:34,859 --> 01:43:38,279
my divorce from Tom Hayden
was announced, the phone rang,
1730
01:43:38,359 --> 01:43:40,689
and this booming
Southern accent,
1731
01:43:41,229 --> 01:43:43,270
he said, "Would you want to
go out with me?"
1732
01:43:43,359 --> 01:43:45,989
And I said, "Well, I'm having
a nervous breakdown.
1733
01:43:46,069 --> 01:43:48,739
Call me in six months."
1734
01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:52,609
And six months to the day,
Ted asked me out again.
1735
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:55,399
Ted was a genius,
1736
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:56,520
billionaire,
1737
01:43:56,609 --> 01:43:58,149
entrepreneur,
1738
01:43:58,609 --> 01:44:00,739
but he was also gorgeous.
1739
01:44:01,149 --> 01:44:05,529
I mean, he was really a handsome
man, and very, very sexy.
1740
01:44:05,609 --> 01:44:07,069
♪ ♪
1741
01:44:07,149 --> 01:44:09,149
On the first date...
1742
01:44:09,229 --> 01:44:10,359
the way...
1743
01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:12,649
he looked at me...
1744
01:44:12,739 --> 01:44:15,489
I felt like I was being eaten.
1745
01:44:17,279 --> 01:44:19,659
He was devouring me,
1746
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,770
and I got goosebumps
all over me.
1747
01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:25,189
Then he said, "You know,
I don't know much about you,
1748
01:44:25,279 --> 01:44:28,239
"so I went into CNN
and I pulled your archives.
1749
01:44:28,319 --> 01:44:30,449
There was a stack
about that high."
1750
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:34,399
Then he said, "Then I went
and I pulled my archives.
1751
01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:37,979
And mine are this high.
Mine are bigger than yours."
1752
01:44:38,279 --> 01:44:41,609
I mean, by the time we got to
the restaurant, which was only
15 minutes away,
1753
01:44:41,689 --> 01:44:44,229
I felt like a tsunami
had rolled over me.
1754
01:44:44,319 --> 01:44:45,899
♪ ♪
1755
01:44:45,979 --> 01:44:47,560
When he took me back,
1756
01:44:47,649 --> 01:44:51,939
at the door he said,
"Can I hug you?"
1757
01:44:52,029 --> 01:44:56,949
And he hugged me, and he said,
"I-- I'm-- I have to tell you
that I'm smitten"
1758
01:44:58,109 --> 01:45:04,399
In his heart,
Ted is not a wealthy, powerful,
privileged person.
1759
01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:08,649
He's a little boy
who likes to play,
1760
01:45:09,859 --> 01:45:12,939
and who has wild brilliance,
1761
01:45:13,029 --> 01:45:16,199
and that's what
I was attracted to.
1762
01:45:16,689 --> 01:45:19,649
♪ ♪
1763
01:45:21,069 --> 01:45:25,069
Weinstein:
Ted adored her.
He'd never put her down.
1764
01:45:25,149 --> 01:45:28,109
Ted is fucking great.
1765
01:45:28,189 --> 01:45:32,109
I pronounce you, now,
man and wife.
You may kiss the bride.
1766
01:45:36,689 --> 01:45:38,689
All right!
1767
01:45:40,649 --> 01:45:43,609
Weinstein:
Their wedding was hilarious,
just hilarious.
1768
01:45:43,689 --> 01:45:48,229
It's the only wedding after
which we all mounted horses
and went grouse shooting
1769
01:45:48,319 --> 01:45:50,489
♪ ♪
1770
01:45:53,569 --> 01:45:57,699
Jane:
I'll never forget here on
our second date in Montana.
1771
01:45:57,779 --> 01:46:02,029
I remember driving around and
he looked out of the window
of the Jeep at a bird that was--
1772
01:46:02,109 --> 01:46:04,149
you could see it in silhouette,
1773
01:46:04,229 --> 01:46:06,310
and he said what it was,
1774
01:46:06,399 --> 01:46:09,859
and he told me the
nesting patterns of the bird.
1775
01:46:09,939 --> 01:46:12,520
And I thought,
"I could love this man."
1776
01:46:12,609 --> 01:46:14,479
It was so clear...
1777
01:46:14,569 --> 01:46:18,609
that he... had a connection
to the land,
1778
01:46:18,689 --> 01:46:20,609
and to the critters,
1779
01:46:20,689 --> 01:46:23,649
and-- and...
1780
01:46:23,739 --> 01:46:25,159
:
...so do I.
1781
01:46:25,229 --> 01:46:26,899
♪ ♪
1782
01:46:29,569 --> 01:46:32,189
I grew up in the
Santa Monica mountains,
1783
01:46:32,279 --> 01:46:34,949
and I knew
all the little animals,
1784
01:46:35,029 --> 01:46:40,569
and the bugs, and the skunks,
and the coyotes,
and I loved them.
1785
01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:43,520
The household wasn't very happy,
1786
01:46:43,609 --> 01:46:45,609
so that's where
I found happiness.
1787
01:46:47,149 --> 01:46:50,149
We were both children
of suicide,
1788
01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:52,399
so we understood each other.
1789
01:46:53,149 --> 01:46:56,779
Like me, he had found solace
in nature.
1790
01:46:57,939 --> 01:47:01,729
We would ride every day,
sometimes three, four,
five hours.
1791
01:47:01,819 --> 01:47:04,859
And hiking, and fly-fishing.
1792
01:47:04,939 --> 01:47:06,939
You know, we had adventures.
1793
01:47:08,649 --> 01:47:11,569
Jane, am I correct that
you've given up making movies?
1794
01:47:11,649 --> 01:47:12,899
Oh yeah. When I met...
1795
01:47:12,979 --> 01:47:14,560
Ted, I was thinking about
doing it anyway,
1796
01:47:14,649 --> 01:47:16,479
but when I met Ted,
that clenched it.
1797
01:47:16,569 --> 01:47:19,069
She'd begun the marriage
by saying to Ted,
"I'll give up work,
1798
01:47:19,149 --> 01:47:21,189
but you give up girls."
1799
01:47:21,279 --> 01:47:24,949
You mean ranching can
take the place of all the
excitement of doing the movies?
1800
01:47:25,029 --> 01:47:26,279
Ted can.
1801
01:47:26,359 --> 01:47:27,739
♪ ♪
1802
01:47:30,979 --> 01:47:32,729
Is that from you, Jeff?
1803
01:47:32,819 --> 01:47:34,739
Turner:
Gee, that cost a fortune!
1804
01:47:40,689 --> 01:47:42,270
Williams:
I thought that would
be a disaster,
1805
01:47:42,359 --> 01:47:45,239
with our liberal,
crunchy granola,
1806
01:47:45,319 --> 01:47:48,529
leftist kids
coming into his family.
1807
01:47:49,279 --> 01:47:51,069
And it melded amazingly well.
1808
01:47:51,149 --> 01:47:52,819
♪ ♪
1809
01:47:54,609 --> 01:47:56,739
I learned a lot...
1810
01:47:56,819 --> 01:48:01,239
with the men in my life,
but I learned the most with Ted.
1811
01:48:01,319 --> 01:48:04,149
His vision was macro,
1812
01:48:04,229 --> 01:48:06,939
and I'm micro.
1813
01:48:07,029 --> 01:48:09,569
So we were a great partnership.
1814
01:48:10,649 --> 01:48:12,229
Weinstein:
It was...
1815
01:48:12,319 --> 01:48:15,449
a stunningly,
interesting marriage.
1816
01:48:15,529 --> 01:48:20,279
Because they shared
a view of the world,
an internationalism,
1817
01:48:20,359 --> 01:48:22,069
a curiosity.
1818
01:48:22,149 --> 01:48:26,279
And it was great to be
out of Hollywood in that
dismal period
1819
01:48:26,359 --> 01:48:28,399
where she'd be
looking for gigs.
1820
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:29,649
It was fun.
1821
01:48:30,689 --> 01:48:34,689
But, you know, in the end,
it didn't last.
1822
01:48:41,569 --> 01:48:42,939
Jane:
Hi, Marta.
1823
01:48:44,319 --> 01:48:47,189
I'm good, I'm in a car
heading for my favorite
ex-husband's
1824
01:48:47,279 --> 01:48:49,409
ranch in Montana.
1825
01:48:50,859 --> 01:48:53,569
♪ ♪
1826
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:01,020
I think you look great.
1827
01:49:01,109 --> 01:49:03,069
-Ha, I don't--
-I think you look great!
1828
01:49:03,739 --> 01:49:06,029
You look great, too.
1829
01:49:06,109 --> 01:49:07,859
♪ ♪
1830
01:49:11,229 --> 01:49:13,310
Oh, it is?
1831
01:49:13,399 --> 01:49:15,149
Gettin' old is hard,
isn't, man?
1832
01:49:15,229 --> 01:49:16,020
Oh, it is.
1833
01:49:17,899 --> 01:49:19,819
That tree looks great.
Do you ever sit under it
1834
01:49:19,899 --> 01:49:22,029
-No.
1835
01:49:23,279 --> 01:49:26,409
That's your tree.
1836
01:49:28,939 --> 01:49:29,689
It's good to see you.
1837
01:49:29,779 --> 01:49:31,609
It's good to see you.
1838
01:49:32,399 --> 01:49:33,939
♪ ♪
1839
01:49:38,939 --> 01:49:39,979
Yeah.
1840
01:49:41,229 --> 01:49:43,060
Well, we had fun in here.
1841
01:49:44,939 --> 01:49:46,319
Can I be bossy for a minute?
1842
01:49:46,399 --> 01:49:47,189
Sure.
1843
01:49:47,279 --> 01:49:48,529
This isn't a good idea.
1844
01:49:48,609 --> 01:49:49,529
Why?
1845
01:49:49,609 --> 01:49:50,899
Because you walk into the back
1846
01:49:50,979 --> 01:49:52,399
of a whole lot of pictures.
1847
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:54,060
You should turn them,
1848
01:49:54,149 --> 01:49:57,439
and some of them
should face this way,
and for-- Oh!
1849
01:49:57,979 --> 01:49:59,359
Awww.
1850
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:00,770
♪ ♪
1851
01:50:02,109 --> 01:50:04,529
Jane:
We had a wonderful 10 years.
1852
01:50:04,609 --> 01:50:08,609
But I had to hide
a part of me,
1853
01:50:08,689 --> 01:50:10,859
in order to please him.
1854
01:50:10,939 --> 01:50:15,399
He would call me
when I was in L.A.
and he was in Atlanta,
1855
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:19,649
and he would say,
"I'm... shrinking."
1856
01:50:21,319 --> 01:50:25,399
When he is removed
from his object of love,
1857
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:27,229
and he's alone,
1858
01:50:27,319 --> 01:50:30,359
he actually does feel
like he's getting small.
1859
01:50:30,979 --> 01:50:34,439
It's very deep
and very serious.
1860
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:37,729
Ted can't be alone.
1861
01:50:37,819 --> 01:50:40,739
And so my whole life
1862
01:50:40,819 --> 01:50:43,819
had to be about him.
1863
01:50:45,609 --> 01:50:49,479
It was rare that
I could go to a conference.
1864
01:50:49,569 --> 01:50:52,699
The women's conference
in Beijing, I had to
really negotiate.
1865
01:50:53,319 --> 01:50:58,109
The Cairo conference,
the UN conference on
population and development.
1866
01:50:58,189 --> 01:51:01,270
I began an organization called
the Georgia Campaign
1867
01:51:01,359 --> 01:51:03,939
for Adolescent
Pregnancy Prevention,
1868
01:51:04,029 --> 01:51:07,449
and it was very, very
important to me.
1869
01:51:07,529 --> 01:51:10,489
But there was a lot
that I wanted to do
that I couldn't do.
1870
01:51:12,689 --> 01:51:16,569
As we moved through the decade
that we spent together...
1871
01:51:18,189 --> 01:51:21,149
I became more of a feminist.
1872
01:51:21,229 --> 01:51:25,439
And so, my focus
was more and more on...
1873
01:51:25,529 --> 01:51:27,529
on women's empowerment.
1874
01:51:29,399 --> 01:51:32,069
But it's hard to be a complete
feminist if you're in a marriage
that doesn't quite work.
1875
01:51:33,229 --> 01:51:37,060
None of my marriages
were democratic,
1876
01:51:38,399 --> 01:51:41,439
because I was
too worried about pleasing.
1877
01:51:42,069 --> 01:51:45,319
I had to be a certain way
in order for them to love me.
1878
01:51:45,399 --> 01:51:47,189
I had to look a certain way,
1879
01:51:47,279 --> 01:51:49,449
and I looked different for
all of them.
1880
01:51:50,399 --> 01:51:54,529
I wanted to be living
as a whole Jane,
1881
01:51:55,189 --> 01:51:57,609
fully realized Jane.
1882
01:51:59,069 --> 01:52:04,319
I hoped that Ted would feel
okay about it, because...
1883
01:52:04,399 --> 01:52:07,859
I really loved him,
and I was hoping that it
would be forever.
1884
01:52:07,939 --> 01:52:10,359
But that's not the way
it played out.
1885
01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:12,189
♪ ♪
1886
01:52:12,279 --> 01:52:16,489
Susan Lacy:
When you and Jane parted,
how did that affect you?
1887
01:52:17,229 --> 01:52:18,810
It was...
1888
01:52:18,899 --> 01:52:20,279
very difficult. I...
1889
01:52:22,649 --> 01:52:24,029
thought it was a...
1890
01:52:26,779 --> 01:52:28,529
...a mistake.
1891
01:52:28,609 --> 01:52:31,899
I've survived, and so has she.
1892
01:52:31,979 --> 01:52:33,439
But, uh...
1893
01:52:34,739 --> 01:52:38,989
I feel like I was happier
when I was with her than...
1894
01:52:39,069 --> 01:52:40,699
subsequently.
1895
01:52:40,779 --> 01:52:42,319
♪ ♪
1896
01:52:44,609 --> 01:52:48,529
Jane:
When you reside
within your own skin,
1897
01:52:48,609 --> 01:52:50,569
you-- you can feel it.
1898
01:52:50,649 --> 01:52:53,729
You're holding...
1899
01:52:53,819 --> 01:52:55,449
all of you:
1900
01:52:55,529 --> 01:52:56,909
your anger,
1901
01:52:56,979 --> 01:52:58,689
your kindness
1902
01:52:58,779 --> 01:53:00,409
your judgmentalness.
1903
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:03,020
Everything that makes up
what you are,
1904
01:53:03,109 --> 01:53:07,069
including the fact that
you may be stronger and braver
than the man you're married to.
1905
01:53:07,149 --> 01:53:09,649
♪ ♪
1906
01:53:12,109 --> 01:53:17,689
When the time came
that I said to him, "Ted,
this isn't gonna work...
1907
01:53:17,779 --> 01:53:20,569
"unless there are changes,"
1908
01:53:20,649 --> 01:53:22,479
we were in a car, and...
1909
01:53:23,979 --> 01:53:27,109
all the oxygen left the car,
and I knew...
1910
01:53:27,189 --> 01:53:28,899
it's not gonna happen.
1911
01:53:28,979 --> 01:53:30,770
♪ ♪
1912
01:53:30,859 --> 01:53:32,779
It was awful.
1913
01:53:32,899 --> 01:53:34,819
And...
1914
01:53:34,899 --> 01:53:37,819
I could hear a voice saying,
1915
01:53:37,899 --> 01:53:41,109
"Oh God, Fonda, come on.
He's handsome, he's cute,
1916
01:53:41,189 --> 01:53:45,109
"he's sexy. You know you
never have to work again.
1917
01:53:45,189 --> 01:53:48,479
Lighten up. Come on."
1918
01:53:48,569 --> 01:53:52,779
And over here, there was
a softer little voice saying,
1919
01:53:52,859 --> 01:53:55,819
"If you stay...
1920
01:53:55,899 --> 01:53:59,479
"you will never... be authentic,
1921
01:53:59,569 --> 01:54:03,859
"you will never
be able to be whole."
1922
01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:28,899
Dina, I burnt out my blender.
1923
01:54:30,569 --> 01:54:35,149
Jane:
After Ted Turner,
everything was so...
1924
01:54:35,229 --> 01:54:38,609
wildly quiet.
1925
01:54:38,689 --> 01:54:43,020
It was probably
the most profound turning point
of my life.
1926
01:54:43,109 --> 01:54:45,689
I left this man...
1927
01:54:46,279 --> 01:54:49,029
and one part of me was so sad,
1928
01:54:49,109 --> 01:54:52,109
and the other part of me said,
1929
01:54:52,189 --> 01:54:54,359
"I'm gonna be okay.
1930
01:54:54,439 --> 01:54:58,060
I don't need a man
to make me okay."
1931
01:54:59,109 --> 01:55:02,439
That-- that was it,
and I never went back.
1932
01:55:04,779 --> 01:55:08,029
Jane:
The problem is you don't
understand the problem.
1933
01:55:08,109 --> 01:55:11,189
It's not personal.
1934
01:55:11,279 --> 01:55:16,859
I'm still being treated the way
I was for 40 years, and
I'm not gonna settle anymore.
1935
01:55:16,939 --> 01:55:21,520
Can't you see how disrespectful
you were being?
1936
01:55:21,609 --> 01:55:26,569
I might, I will, I am.
Yes, we've talked about it.
1937
01:55:26,649 --> 01:55:28,359
Doing
1938
01:55:28,439 --> 01:55:30,649
I'll tell you what we're doing,
we're-- we're-- we're--
1939
01:55:30,739 --> 01:55:34,159
we're making vibrators
for women with arthritis.
1940
01:55:35,739 --> 01:55:38,529
Okay. God...
1941
01:55:38,609 --> 01:55:41,779
Seventy-eight years old,
I have a scene in bed
with Sam Elliot.
1942
01:55:41,859 --> 01:55:43,689
Pretty good, huh?
1943
01:55:43,779 --> 01:55:44,909
It was fun, too.
1944
01:55:44,979 --> 01:55:47,939
♪ ♪
1945
01:55:52,439 --> 01:55:55,060
Jane:
Paula Weinstein,
who's my best friend,
1946
01:55:55,149 --> 01:55:58,939
she called me and she said,
"The Zanucks who were producing
the Oscars that year
1947
01:55:59,029 --> 01:56:02,449
want you to present an award."
1948
01:56:02,529 --> 01:56:05,279
And I said, "I can't, I'm not
in the business anymore."
1949
01:56:05,359 --> 01:56:06,529
She said, "Shut up,
1950
01:56:06,609 --> 01:56:08,069
"Vera Wang's gonna make you
a dress
1951
01:56:08,149 --> 01:56:09,899
and Sally Hershberger's
gonna cut your hair."
1952
01:56:11,609 --> 01:56:13,109
I came out...
1953
01:56:13,189 --> 01:56:15,399
I could hear a gasp
from the audience
1954
01:56:15,479 --> 01:56:17,020
'cause I looked really good.
1955
01:56:17,649 --> 01:56:21,149
And right away,
I got offered Monster-In-Law.
1956
01:56:21,229 --> 01:56:22,899
♪ ♪
1957
01:56:24,029 --> 01:56:26,489
You know, I thought, "Well...
1958
01:56:26,569 --> 01:56:30,279
"people are gonna go see it
because of Jennifer Lopez,
1959
01:56:30,359 --> 01:56:33,069
"but they're gonna discover,
or rediscover, Jane Fonda."
1960
01:56:36,819 --> 01:56:38,649
♪ ♪
1961
01:56:38,739 --> 01:56:42,109
I'm sorry,
I thought it was air freshener.
1962
01:56:43,529 --> 01:56:45,449
Jane, I'm-- I'm telling you,
I couldn't be, uh,
1963
01:56:45,529 --> 01:56:48,319
happier for you. I'm a--
This thing has just
been tremendous.
1964
01:56:48,399 --> 01:56:53,229
And I would think after this run
of the play, you would like
some time just to relax, but no!
1965
01:56:53,319 --> 01:56:56,779
You see, I'm the
brand ambassador for L'Oreal
1966
01:56:56,859 --> 01:56:58,779
for older women,
but they never--
1967
01:56:58,859 --> 01:57:01,149
nobody's ever had
a brand ambassador my age.
1968
01:57:01,229 --> 01:57:04,020
I competed with Margaret Mead,
and what they have me doing...
1969
01:57:04,109 --> 01:57:09,069
-...is um, hand cream,
face cream, and embalming oil.
1970
01:57:09,689 --> 01:57:12,649
Jane:
I never thought
I'd still be doing this.
1971
01:57:12,739 --> 01:57:16,029
If you would have told me,
that I would be my age now,
1972
01:57:16,109 --> 01:57:17,529
and still working,
1973
01:57:17,609 --> 01:57:20,189
I would have been
totally flabbergasted.
1974
01:57:20,279 --> 01:57:22,529
Photographers:
Jane! Jane! Jane!
1975
01:57:24,609 --> 01:57:26,479
I'm just kind of amazed
that I have...
1976
01:57:26,569 --> 01:57:28,819
managed to recreate a career,
and I'm--
1977
01:57:28,899 --> 01:57:30,649
as busy as I am.
1978
01:57:30,739 --> 01:57:31,869
God!
1979
01:57:31,939 --> 01:57:34,189
-I mean, can't a lady have a--
-Leona!
1980
01:57:34,279 --> 01:57:37,779
We don't have the trust
of the public anymore.
1981
01:57:38,229 --> 01:57:39,729
Get it back!
1982
01:57:40,069 --> 01:57:42,609
I forgot, I forgot
to slow down, I'm sorry.
1983
01:57:42,689 --> 01:57:45,479
Jane:
Now, I'm making a movie
with Bob Redford again.
1984
01:57:46,439 --> 01:57:48,189
Robert Redford:
She is so busy.
1985
01:57:48,279 --> 01:57:50,659
No grass grows under her feet.
1986
01:57:50,739 --> 01:57:52,359
She puts me in the shade.
1987
01:57:52,439 --> 01:57:53,859
You ready for sushi?
1988
01:57:53,939 --> 01:57:55,859
Yes, I am.
1989
01:57:55,939 --> 01:57:59,689
Tomlin: Grace and Frankie,
when it came along,
just seemed right.
1990
01:57:59,779 --> 01:58:02,699
We can play out
this part of our lives
1991
01:58:02,779 --> 01:58:04,569
in a project that speaks
1992
01:58:04,649 --> 01:58:06,399
what we wanna speak about.
1993
01:58:06,479 --> 01:58:08,859
Older women, older people,
older, uh,
1994
01:58:08,939 --> 01:58:11,189
gay people,
older straight people.
1995
01:58:11,279 --> 01:58:15,159
How am I gonna explain to my
kids that their grandma makes
sex toys for other grandmas?
1996
01:58:15,229 --> 01:58:16,859
Well, I'll tell you
what to tell them, honey.
1997
01:58:16,939 --> 01:58:19,649
You tell them that we
make things for people like us.
1998
01:58:19,739 --> 01:58:22,529
Sam Waterston:
She lived her life
in front of us,
1999
01:58:22,609 --> 01:58:27,399
and as she's grown older,
she's shown us what that's like.
2000
01:58:27,479 --> 01:58:29,560
She's not afraid
to be out there.
2001
01:58:29,649 --> 01:58:34,189
We are sick and tired of being
dismissed by people like you.
2002
01:58:34,279 --> 01:58:37,239
-Mic drop.
-It's about answering back,
2003
01:58:37,319 --> 01:58:41,359
not going quietly
into that great good night.
2004
01:58:41,439 --> 01:58:44,609
And then go ahead and lower down
and when you lower down, I want
you to let your knees bend.
2005
01:58:44,689 --> 01:58:46,520
Great, and then pull
right back up again.
2006
01:58:46,609 --> 01:58:47,569
-So--
2007
01:58:47,649 --> 01:58:49,109
You could use both so r--
2008
01:58:49,189 --> 01:58:50,359
Jane:
I'm glad...
2009
01:58:50,439 --> 01:58:52,770
that I look good for my age.
2010
01:58:54,529 --> 01:58:58,699
But I've also had plastic
surgery, I'm not gonna lie
about that.
2011
01:59:00,609 --> 01:59:04,689
On one level, I hate the fact
that I have had the need...
2012
01:59:04,779 --> 01:59:06,739
to alter myself physically
2013
01:59:06,819 --> 01:59:08,779
to feel that I'm okay.
2014
01:59:11,529 --> 01:59:13,449
I wish that I wasn't...
2015
01:59:13,529 --> 01:59:15,319
like that.
2016
01:59:15,399 --> 01:59:18,399
I love older faces.
2017
01:59:18,479 --> 01:59:23,149
I love lived-in faces.
I love Vanessa Redgrave's face.
2018
01:59:23,229 --> 01:59:26,270
I wish I was braver.
2019
01:59:26,359 --> 01:59:28,989
But, um...
2020
01:59:29,069 --> 01:59:30,949
I am what I am.
2021
01:59:31,029 --> 01:59:33,199
♪ ♪
2022
01:59:39,479 --> 01:59:43,479
Your age is less chronological,
2023
01:59:43,569 --> 01:59:48,569
and more spiritual,
and attitudinal.
2024
01:59:50,529 --> 01:59:54,279
I was so old at 20.
2025
01:59:56,109 --> 01:59:59,739
I mean, maybe people
who knew me then
would have said, "What?!"
2026
02:00:00,739 --> 02:00:05,319
But on a soul level,
I was really...
2027
02:00:05,399 --> 02:00:07,779
I saw no future.
2028
02:00:07,859 --> 02:00:09,689
I was very dark,
2029
02:00:09,779 --> 02:00:11,779
very sad person.
2030
02:00:13,229 --> 02:00:15,189
There was no joy.
2031
02:00:17,569 --> 02:00:20,859
I didn't really know who I was.
2032
02:00:20,939 --> 02:00:25,859
It took me a really long time
to find my own narrative.
2033
02:00:27,529 --> 02:00:30,909
Weinstein:
Few people move me
as much as she does.
2034
02:00:30,979 --> 02:00:33,810
She's gotta fight all her life
2035
02:00:33,899 --> 02:00:36,359
her insecurity,
2036
02:00:36,439 --> 02:00:38,689
knowing her own value.
2037
02:00:38,779 --> 02:00:42,529
And that's a journey
that continues for her.
I think she's gonna have that...
2038
02:00:42,609 --> 02:00:46,819
forever, but--
but nobody braver to tackle it.
2039
02:00:46,899 --> 02:00:48,899
♪ ♪
2040
02:00:49,739 --> 02:00:51,699
Jane:
When I watched my dad die,
2041
02:00:51,779 --> 02:00:53,409
I felt that he...
2042
02:00:53,479 --> 02:00:55,439
had a lot of regrets.
2043
02:00:56,609 --> 02:01:00,069
I do not want to get
to the end of life...
2044
02:01:00,149 --> 02:01:03,529
with a lot of regrets,
and I know that the regrets
won't be what I did,
2045
02:01:03,609 --> 02:01:07,319
they'll be for the things
I didn't do.
2046
02:01:07,399 --> 02:01:10,859
This is the beginning
of my last act.
2047
02:01:10,939 --> 02:01:13,270
In order to know
how to go forward,
2048
02:01:13,359 --> 02:01:15,569
I was gonna have to know
where I'd been.
2049
02:01:15,649 --> 02:01:17,069
♪ ♪
2050
02:01:17,149 --> 02:01:19,979
Let's see.
2051
02:01:26,819 --> 02:01:29,109
That's my grandmother.
2052
02:01:29,189 --> 02:01:31,819
That's the house
where my dad grew up.
2053
02:01:32,649 --> 02:01:34,859
Jane:
If you really go back,
2054
02:01:34,939 --> 02:01:37,569
and try to understand
who you've been,
2055
02:01:37,649 --> 02:01:41,569
you have to understand
who your parents were.
2056
02:01:41,649 --> 02:01:45,399
Why were they not able...
2057
02:01:45,479 --> 02:01:48,359
to really look at you
with eyes of love,
2058
02:01:48,439 --> 02:01:52,859
reflect yourself back
with eyes of love.
2059
02:01:52,939 --> 02:01:57,939
Why did they have duct tape
over their eyes?
Why did narcissism blind them...
2060
02:01:58,029 --> 02:02:00,909
from being able
to really see you?
2061
02:02:02,359 --> 02:02:07,109
Who were their parents?
Why did their parents...
2062
02:02:07,189 --> 02:02:08,819
treat them the way they did?
2063
02:02:09,859 --> 02:02:13,859
♪ ♪
2064
02:02:21,189 --> 02:02:24,939
I began, in 2000,
to write my memoirs.
2065
02:02:25,029 --> 02:02:28,949
I dedicated them to my mother,
because I thought it was
gonna force me...
2066
02:02:29,029 --> 02:02:32,319
to figure out who she was.
2067
02:02:34,359 --> 02:02:38,649
I found out that my mother
was the life of the party.
2068
02:02:38,739 --> 02:02:42,699
"Everybody loved being around
your mother!" They did?
2069
02:02:42,779 --> 02:02:48,609
"Oh my gosh! Oh, and she was--
I mean, men loved her."
2070
02:02:49,739 --> 02:02:54,699
And her father's,
my grandfather's side,
of the family said, "Gasp!
2071
02:02:54,779 --> 02:02:59,029
"Oh we all wanted to be close
to your mother.
She was a rock."
2072
02:02:59,109 --> 02:03:03,819
I was like, "My mother?"
It was such a...
2073
02:03:03,899 --> 02:03:08,609
unlike my image of who she was.
It just stunned me.
2074
02:03:10,739 --> 02:03:14,989
All these conflicting stories
came to me and I'd always
sensed that...
2075
02:03:16,609 --> 02:03:21,529
...she must have had
a really hard childhood.
And, um...
2076
02:03:21,609 --> 02:03:24,569
so with the help of a lawyer,
I got her medical records
2077
02:03:24,649 --> 02:03:28,359
from the institution
where she killed herself, and...
2078
02:03:28,439 --> 02:03:30,569
um...
2079
02:03:32,109 --> 02:03:34,689
I found,
from her medical records
2080
02:03:34,779 --> 02:03:37,739
that she suffered from
manic depression, that's
what they called it.
2081
02:03:37,819 --> 02:03:40,989
It's today called bipolar.
2082
02:03:41,069 --> 02:03:43,569
And there was
this little autobiography,
2083
02:03:43,649 --> 02:03:46,779
they must have asked her
to write her life story.
2084
02:03:47,979 --> 02:03:50,689
What a gift.
2085
02:03:50,779 --> 02:03:54,159
Suddenly it's like,
2086
02:03:54,229 --> 02:03:56,689
it had nothing to do with me!
2087
02:03:56,779 --> 02:04:00,109
It wasn't that
I was not lovable.
2088
02:04:01,689 --> 02:04:05,399
It's that things
would happen to her,
she had a very, very
2089
02:04:05,479 --> 02:04:08,899
hard childhood, and, um,
2090
02:04:08,979 --> 02:04:15,810
it broke her, in some way
on some fundamental way,
it broke her.
2091
02:04:17,649 --> 02:04:22,899
Garity:
I think the most defining
moment in my mother's life
2092
02:04:22,979 --> 02:04:26,149
was the death of her mother.
2093
02:04:27,859 --> 02:04:31,069
Jane:
My mother died in 1950,
2094
02:04:31,149 --> 02:04:35,609
and I never had an inclination
to come here.
2095
02:04:36,149 --> 02:04:40,979
And at the time,
it's the right time for me
to come and...
2096
02:04:41,069 --> 02:04:43,649
and visit her grave.
2097
02:04:43,739 --> 02:04:46,359
♪ ♪
2098
02:05:06,359 --> 02:05:09,189
I finished her life story.
2099
02:05:10,359 --> 02:05:14,279
And all I wanted to do
was take her in my arms
2100
02:05:14,359 --> 02:05:16,939
and just say, "I'm so sorry.
2101
02:05:17,029 --> 02:05:21,989
"I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry
that I wasn't...
2102
02:05:22,069 --> 02:05:28,199
"more loving to you,
I didn't know. I'm so sorry
you had to go through that.
2103
02:05:28,279 --> 02:05:29,989
Please forgive me."
2104
02:05:30,069 --> 02:05:32,069
♪ ♪
2105
02:05:42,939 --> 02:05:47,689
Their incapacity to love
wasn't because you weren't...
2106
02:05:47,779 --> 02:05:52,949
worthy of love, but it was
because they, too,
had been wounded.
2107
02:05:53,029 --> 02:05:54,409
♪ ♪
2108
02:05:57,779 --> 02:06:00,069
And then you can forgive.
2109
02:06:08,939 --> 02:06:13,149
It goes from one generation
to another, and...
2110
02:06:13,229 --> 02:06:16,770
somebody's got to
break the cycle.
2111
02:06:18,899 --> 02:06:22,859
One of the reasons that
I wanted to write my book was
2112
02:06:22,939 --> 02:06:25,979
because I wanted my daughter
to know
2113
02:06:26,069 --> 02:06:29,399
why I wasn't a better parent
to her
2114
02:06:29,479 --> 02:06:32,359
and that it had nothing
to do with her.
2115
02:06:32,439 --> 02:06:34,939
♪ ♪
2116
02:06:36,979 --> 02:06:40,109
I get so sad...
2117
02:06:41,609 --> 02:06:47,359
when I think of what I wasn't
for my daughter
that she needed.
2118
02:06:50,689 --> 02:06:55,189
And it's hard to take that in
'cause it's so painful,
2119
02:06:55,979 --> 02:06:59,979
but it's never
too late, I think.
2120
02:07:02,779 --> 02:07:05,739
There are things between
us now that...
2121
02:07:05,819 --> 02:07:09,319
didn't used to be there,
and I think we both feel it.
2122
02:07:09,979 --> 02:07:12,609
Deep down, we love each other.
2123
02:07:14,609 --> 02:07:18,189
I hope that she'll be able
to forgive me.
2124
02:07:24,609 --> 02:07:29,529
And I feel lucky
that I have my family,
and my extended family.
2125
02:07:30,069 --> 02:07:34,149
I'm now having relationships
that are much more democratic.
2126
02:07:35,529 --> 02:07:41,109
But I am most myself
when I'm with my women friends.
2127
02:07:41,189 --> 02:07:45,609
Like a lot of people,
I sort of thought that I would
2128
02:07:45,689 --> 02:07:50,109
at some point, you know,
kind of retire, and...
2129
02:07:50,189 --> 02:07:52,229
but that's not gonna happen.
2130
02:07:52,319 --> 02:07:53,939
♪ ♪
2131
02:07:54,029 --> 02:07:55,949
Reporter:
Actress Jane Fonda traveled
to Standing Rock
2132
02:07:56,029 --> 02:07:58,779
to serve Thanksgiving meals
to demonstrators.
2133
02:07:58,859 --> 02:08:03,359
This is a battle for,
not just Standing Rock,
but for everyone.
2134
02:08:04,359 --> 02:08:07,359
Jane:
It's hard to be really happy if
your life doesn't have meaning.
2135
02:08:08,319 --> 02:08:12,109
People turn to religion because
it gives them some meaning,
2136
02:08:12,189 --> 02:08:14,979
but I am an activist.
2137
02:08:15,069 --> 02:08:19,149
Hey, hey! Ho, ho!
Donald Trump has got to go!
2138
02:08:19,229 --> 02:08:21,270
But we're in a whole new era.
2139
02:08:21,359 --> 02:08:25,319
When there's a catastrophe
that's happened, we have to be
out in the streets.
2140
02:08:27,899 --> 02:08:34,109
We don't have to choose between
the environment and the economy.
That is a false choice.
2141
02:08:34,189 --> 02:08:36,770
Reporter:
Actresses Jane Fonda
and Lily Tomlin
2142
02:08:36,859 --> 02:08:39,149
among several celebrities
joining the protest,
2143
02:08:39,229 --> 02:08:41,649
and marching
with the demonstrators.
2144
02:08:42,939 --> 02:08:44,319
Jane:
Say it with me:
2145
02:08:44,399 --> 02:08:46,979
I pledge to resist!
2146
02:08:47,069 --> 02:08:48,949
I pledge to resist!
2147
02:08:49,029 --> 02:08:52,949
Weinstein:
She is not
a fly-by-night activist.
2148
02:08:53,739 --> 02:08:56,359
It is deep in her soul.
2149
02:08:56,439 --> 02:09:01,439
There is no stopping
that part of herself
'cause it feeds everything.
2150
02:09:01,939 --> 02:09:03,689
Jane:
They wouldn't let us in,
2151
02:09:03,779 --> 02:09:06,859
but we can still take
our money out!
2152
02:09:09,279 --> 02:09:12,029
Garity:
There's this kinetic energy.
2153
02:09:12,109 --> 02:09:13,819
She won't stop.
2154
02:09:13,899 --> 02:09:16,689
She's on a mission.
2155
02:09:16,779 --> 02:09:20,199
This intent to do well
2156
02:09:20,279 --> 02:09:23,739
keeps her demons at bay.
2157
02:09:23,819 --> 02:09:29,189
Sometimes I want to say,
"You don't need to prove
anything else to anyone.
2158
02:09:29,279 --> 02:09:33,909
"You don't need to push...
so hard, constantly."
2159
02:09:33,979 --> 02:09:35,689
But...
2160
02:09:35,779 --> 02:09:40,069
she is who she is and...
2161
02:09:40,149 --> 02:09:45,359
I-- I, quite honestly,
I wouldn't change anything
about her.
2162
02:09:45,439 --> 02:09:48,479
♪ ♪
2163
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Jane:
I had spent so much of my life
feeling if I'm not perfect,
no one can love me.
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And then...
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I realized that
trying to be perfect
is a toxic journey.
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We're not perfect.
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We have to love our shadow,
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we have to embrace and accept
our shadows.
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And sometimes,
good enough is good enough.
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