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Who are you? 15 00:02:00,530 --> 00:02:02,819 ♪ ♪ 16 00:02:06,319 --> 00:02:09,400 The woman in the helmet is Jane Fonda, the actress. 17 00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:11,270 Actress Jane Fonda was arrested 18 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,189 today at the airport in Cleveland. 19 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,449 The Justice Department said it is attempting to determine 20 00:02:15,530 --> 00:02:17,240 whether Ms. Fonda had violated 21 00:02:17,319 --> 00:02:19,400 sedition, treason or other statutes. 22 00:02:19,479 --> 00:02:21,520 ♪ ♪ 23 00:02:23,860 --> 00:02:27,150 Any healthy country, like any healthy individual, 24 00:02:27,229 --> 00:02:29,229 should be in perpetual revolution, 25 00:02:29,319 --> 00:02:31,069 perpetual change. 26 00:02:31,150 --> 00:02:33,110 ♪ ♪ 27 00:02:33,189 --> 00:02:35,610 Phil Donahue: You just may be the most talked about personality 28 00:02:35,689 --> 00:02:37,319 in the country today. 29 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,319 There's a lot of, uh, hostility towards you. 30 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,780 Ah! The winner is Jane Fonda in Coming Home. 31 00:02:45,150 --> 00:02:47,110 ♪ ♪ 32 00:02:47,189 --> 00:02:49,729 Johnny Carson: My first guest tonight is a gal that I admire highly. 33 00:02:49,819 --> 00:02:52,610 Funny thing how people who were called radicals at the time 34 00:02:52,689 --> 00:02:54,270 now are considered right-on. 35 00:02:56,189 --> 00:02:57,770 Jane Fonda: You have to have the courage to speak 36 00:02:57,860 --> 00:02:59,400 about the changes that are needed 37 00:02:59,479 --> 00:03:01,610 and it includes challenging, at the root, 38 00:03:01,689 --> 00:03:05,020 the corporate power that has taken over the economy of this country. 39 00:03:07,439 --> 00:03:10,150 Lesley Stahl: You turn around and marry a billionaire. 40 00:03:10,229 --> 00:03:12,810 How do you go from one to the other 41 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:16,110 without completely losing yourself somewhere in there? 42 00:03:16,189 --> 00:03:18,610 ♪ ♪ 43 00:04:17,110 --> 00:04:18,149 Ow! 44 00:04:18,230 --> 00:04:19,149 Hairstylist: Sorry. 45 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,519 To drink or not to drink. 46 00:04:30,779 --> 00:04:32,159 I think I'll drink. 47 00:04:34,529 --> 00:04:36,740 The problem is they only serve wine. 48 00:04:36,819 --> 00:04:39,569 Oh, really? They're not doing-- They don't do champagne? 49 00:04:39,649 --> 00:04:42,860 I-I don't drink champagne. I don't drink wine. I drink vodka. 50 00:04:42,939 --> 00:04:44,939 Well, maybe they can-- 51 00:04:45,029 --> 00:04:47,860 -I'll have to bribe somebody. 52 00:04:51,819 --> 00:04:54,699 Jane: You know the two times that I won an Oscar, 53 00:04:54,779 --> 00:04:56,360 I did my own hair and makeup. 54 00:04:56,439 --> 00:04:57,610 You're kidding? 55 00:04:57,689 --> 00:05:00,980 When I picked up the Oscar for my dad... 56 00:05:02,819 --> 00:05:05,939 it looked like the Lindbergh baby was hidden in my hair. 57 00:05:06,029 --> 00:05:09,110 -It's, it's that hair there. 58 00:05:09,189 --> 00:05:11,980 I mean, it was the '80s, just to be fair to myself. 59 00:05:12,069 --> 00:05:13,990 ♪ ♪ 60 00:05:19,649 --> 00:05:21,319 Okay, Fonda, keep your chin up. 61 00:05:21,399 --> 00:05:23,189 -It's Jane Fonda! 62 00:05:36,529 --> 00:05:38,159 Photographer: Ms. Fonda, that-- 63 00:05:40,029 --> 00:05:41,449 Yeah, could we have one smile this way? 64 00:05:41,529 --> 00:05:42,779 One smile? Thank you. 65 00:05:42,860 --> 00:05:45,189 ♪ ♪ 66 00:05:51,189 --> 00:05:53,769 Lily Tomlin: Has Vanity Fair been published? -Jane: Yes. 67 00:05:53,860 --> 00:05:55,980 -Yes, and I'm on the cover. 68 00:05:56,069 --> 00:05:59,110 Aw. Yeah, I wouldn't get on the cover. 69 00:05:59,189 --> 00:06:02,110 I never thought... I'd never have thought that I would ever-- 70 00:06:02,189 --> 00:06:03,819 Were they Hollywood women? Is that it? 71 00:06:03,899 --> 00:06:06,360 -It was called the Year of the Woman-- 72 00:06:06,439 --> 00:06:07,649 -Not even from Hollywood. -It was. 73 00:06:07,740 --> 00:06:10,819 -Irish. 74 00:06:10,899 --> 00:06:12,360 -Yeah. 75 00:06:12,439 --> 00:06:14,939 Oh, same old-- Helen Mirren? 76 00:06:15,029 --> 00:06:17,490 -Yes. 77 00:06:17,569 --> 00:06:20,490 -They took me out and put you in. -Yeah, they did. 78 00:06:20,569 --> 00:06:22,240 Lily: They aced me out. 79 00:06:22,319 --> 00:06:25,649 -Jane: It went from 21-year-old Saoirse... -Lily: This is your fault. 80 00:06:25,740 --> 00:06:28,029 ...to 78-year-old me. 81 00:06:28,110 --> 00:06:29,990 Yeah. 82 00:06:31,149 --> 00:06:34,279 -Well, that's no big deal. 83 00:06:35,819 --> 00:06:39,149 After 53 years of friendship and 11 films together, 84 00:06:39,230 --> 00:06:41,730 you don't think I'm gonna start to bullshit you now, do you? 85 00:06:41,819 --> 00:06:44,360 -No, I don't! 86 00:06:44,439 --> 00:06:45,860 I wouldn't deserve that. 87 00:06:45,939 --> 00:06:48,689 That's right. You don't deserve it. 88 00:06:48,779 --> 00:06:51,319 You deserve me to call a spade a spade, 89 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,819 which is why I dragged my ass here from LA. 90 00:06:54,899 --> 00:06:57,939 Look, Brenda, if it's about scene 21, 91 00:06:58,649 --> 00:07:00,569 where you're described as "ugly," 92 00:07:00,649 --> 00:07:04,029 "feeble," uh, "a pale shadow of your former beauty." 93 00:07:04,110 --> 00:07:07,740 Please, realize that's just poetic license. 94 00:07:07,819 --> 00:07:10,110 You still preserve intact. 95 00:07:11,149 --> 00:07:12,939 You have to. 96 00:07:13,029 --> 00:07:16,490 That mystery, that allure you had when you first became a diva. 97 00:07:18,110 --> 00:07:19,990 ♪ ♪ 98 00:07:28,029 --> 00:07:30,279 Dinah Shore: When you were little lady Jane Fonda, 99 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,029 up on Tigertail Road... 100 00:07:32,110 --> 00:07:35,689 did you dream about being an actress? Did you wanna be? 101 00:07:35,779 --> 00:07:39,449 Did I want to be an actress? No, not until I was, uh, well into my 20s. 102 00:07:39,529 --> 00:07:41,449 -I-I didn't, um... 'Cause you were so-- 103 00:07:41,529 --> 00:07:44,409 -I think when you grow up in the industry... -Mm-hmm. 104 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,860 ...and you see, uh, what the people are 105 00:07:46,939 --> 00:07:49,399 -really like behind their masks... -Mm-hm. 106 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,360 ...you know, you're not too encouraged to become an actor. 107 00:07:52,439 --> 00:07:54,649 ♪ ♪ 108 00:08:02,980 --> 00:08:04,439 Jane: I grew up in the shadow 109 00:08:04,529 --> 00:08:06,779 of a national monument. 110 00:08:06,860 --> 00:08:09,610 Wait a minute, buddy. You just done some jackassin'. 111 00:08:09,689 --> 00:08:11,319 You can't shut up now. 112 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:13,399 The handbill said they need 800 pickers, 113 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,110 you laugh and say they don't. 114 00:08:15,189 --> 00:08:16,730 Which one's the liar? 115 00:08:16,819 --> 00:08:19,899 Jane: My dad, his values, 116 00:08:19,980 --> 00:08:24,310 you know, solid American... 117 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:26,610 Midwestern values: 118 00:08:26,689 --> 00:08:29,980 fairness, equality, justice. 119 00:08:30,569 --> 00:08:33,899 Stand up for the underdog, and that's why he gravitated 120 00:08:33,980 --> 00:08:37,649 to characters like Tom Joad in Grapes of Wrath, 121 00:08:37,740 --> 00:08:42,870 and The Ox-Bow Incident, which was about a lynching and racism. 122 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:46,820 12 Angry Men , I mean, 123 00:08:46,899 --> 00:08:49,980 without him ever saying so, I knew that these movies 124 00:08:50,070 --> 00:08:52,899 expressed what he could never say verbally. 125 00:08:55,690 --> 00:08:57,149 ♪ ♪ 126 00:08:57,230 --> 00:09:00,149 He was the face of the America that... 127 00:09:00,230 --> 00:09:02,230 people wanted to believe in. 128 00:09:04,190 --> 00:09:07,269 I was Henry Fonda's daughter, which, of course, meant 129 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,240 that I was polite, I was nice... 130 00:09:10,740 --> 00:09:12,820 ...I was the girl next door. 131 00:09:12,899 --> 00:09:16,610 All the things that I didn't feel I was. 132 00:09:18,110 --> 00:09:21,110 I didn't like my body. I didn't like myself. I... 133 00:09:21,779 --> 00:09:23,950 I felt shy. 134 00:09:25,610 --> 00:09:28,029 We looked like the American Dream. 135 00:09:28,110 --> 00:09:29,899 Rich, beautiful, 136 00:09:29,980 --> 00:09:31,980 close... 137 00:09:32,070 --> 00:09:34,279 but a lot of it was simply myth. 138 00:09:41,940 --> 00:09:44,570 This is the summer 139 00:09:44,649 --> 00:09:46,230 when I was 11. 140 00:09:47,690 --> 00:09:51,820 It was staged for some magazine, I don't remember which one. 141 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,059 Then there's my brother, Peter, and my mother. 142 00:09:56,570 --> 00:09:59,360 She had been in and out of institutions by that time, 143 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,059 and when I look at her face, I can see the anxiety and the stress, 144 00:10:04,149 --> 00:10:06,360 and it makes me very, very sad. 145 00:10:07,860 --> 00:10:11,279 I didn't know why, but I had an aversion to her. 146 00:10:12,649 --> 00:10:15,940 My team is the winning team, my team is the man, 147 00:10:16,029 --> 00:10:17,659 my dad. 148 00:10:18,980 --> 00:10:22,980 And you can tell he is not present at all. 149 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,860 He was having an affair with a far younger woman. 150 00:10:29,149 --> 00:10:30,480 Family picnic. 151 00:10:31,610 --> 00:10:33,649 To me, that is a very... 152 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,190 sad picture. 153 00:10:38,820 --> 00:10:40,490 It says it all. 154 00:10:45,529 --> 00:10:47,490 ♪ ♪ 155 00:10:50,190 --> 00:10:52,649 Jane: I was alone a lot growing up. 156 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,110 I spent all my time roaming the hills. 157 00:10:56,190 --> 00:10:58,320 I wanted to be Tonto. 158 00:11:00,029 --> 00:11:03,820 In those days, when you really became somebody, 159 00:11:03,899 --> 00:11:06,980 it meant that you were... independent, 160 00:11:07,070 --> 00:11:09,200 you didn't need anybody. 161 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,070 But then I'd look into the windows of houses 162 00:11:15,149 --> 00:11:17,029 where people were sitting at the table... 163 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,740 and I remember, it would bring up a feeling of longing in me. 164 00:11:24,279 --> 00:11:27,159 And I figured, whatever it is that creates 165 00:11:27,230 --> 00:11:30,860 that thing that I'm looking at, that warm... 166 00:11:30,940 --> 00:11:35,019 glow of light, people laughing and talking, 167 00:11:35,110 --> 00:11:37,360 that will never be mine. 168 00:11:39,529 --> 00:11:40,820 Mr. Austin: Henry Fonda, 169 00:11:40,899 --> 00:11:45,320 we name you Stage Father of 1952. 170 00:11:45,399 --> 00:11:47,649 Here is your medal and my heartiest congratulations. 171 00:11:47,740 --> 00:11:50,029 Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Austin. 172 00:11:51,070 --> 00:11:53,529 I feel very honored. I just hope that 173 00:11:53,610 --> 00:11:56,899 my Jane and Peter are gonna be properly impressed. 174 00:11:58,110 --> 00:12:01,399 Jane: He was a hero to so many people. 175 00:12:02,070 --> 00:12:03,110 But... 176 00:12:04,279 --> 00:12:07,240 these kind of men aren't always good fathers. 177 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,360 It's hard to be both. 178 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,320 ♪ ♪ 179 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:15,649 I wanted to please dad. 180 00:12:15,740 --> 00:12:18,700 Who would you like me to be? I'll do whatever you want, 181 00:12:18,779 --> 00:12:21,029 'cause I want you to love me. 182 00:12:21,110 --> 00:12:22,740 Peter was the opposite. 183 00:12:24,230 --> 00:12:25,860 If he was scared, he'd cried. 184 00:12:25,940 --> 00:12:28,649 If he was angry with dad, he'd show it. 185 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:32,110 And it was really hard on Peter. 186 00:12:33,570 --> 00:12:35,899 He had it way harder than me. 187 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,730 Peter Fonda: It's more difficult for Jane than it is for me, actually. 188 00:12:40,820 --> 00:12:44,190 You see, it's not that he wasn't or isn't a loving person at all. 189 00:12:44,279 --> 00:12:48,700 He just... has no character with a script that says, "Henry Fonda: 190 00:12:48,779 --> 00:12:52,029 Fonda says, 'I love you son,'" and he would be able to handle it. 191 00:12:52,110 --> 00:12:53,940 Without that script, he's got nothing to do. 192 00:12:54,029 --> 00:12:56,490 I mean, he has to have the mask in order to express. 193 00:12:57,860 --> 00:13:01,029 Jane has no way to attach herself to Henry. 194 00:13:01,110 --> 00:13:03,990 She's lost out there as his daughter. 195 00:13:04,610 --> 00:13:06,649 ♪ ♪ 196 00:13:08,190 --> 00:13:10,860 Jane: I was 20, maybe 21, 197 00:13:12,149 --> 00:13:14,570 still living at my father's house 198 00:13:14,649 --> 00:13:16,070 on the beach in Malibu. 199 00:13:16,149 --> 00:13:18,279 ♪ ♪ 200 00:13:19,279 --> 00:13:22,070 My stepmother had given me an ultimatum: 201 00:13:22,149 --> 00:13:25,149 "Come fall, you have to move out of the house." 202 00:13:26,149 --> 00:13:28,570 What was I gonna do? 203 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,990 A quarter-mile down the beach was Lee Strasberg's house. 204 00:13:34,190 --> 00:13:36,440 He was the great acting coach. 205 00:13:36,529 --> 00:13:41,320 He taught people like Paul Newman and James Dean, and, of course, Marilyn Monroe. 206 00:13:42,820 --> 00:13:44,570 I walked down the beach, 207 00:13:44,649 --> 00:13:47,899 took off my high-heeled shoes to walk in the sand. 208 00:13:47,980 --> 00:13:51,269 I knocked on the back door after having put my shoes back on. 209 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:52,690 He let me in. 210 00:13:53,230 --> 00:13:54,769 He later said, 211 00:13:54,860 --> 00:13:59,360 "She seemed to be the most boring, conventional girl... 212 00:14:00,740 --> 00:14:03,200 "except when I looked into her eyes, 213 00:14:03,899 --> 00:14:05,730 there was a lot hidden." 214 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:08,440 And he took me into his class. 215 00:14:08,529 --> 00:14:09,909 ♪ ♪ 216 00:14:12,570 --> 00:14:16,149 Lee taught us to... dive deep 217 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:18,190 into your own psyche, 218 00:14:19,230 --> 00:14:21,899 private moments, sensory memories, 219 00:14:22,899 --> 00:14:26,360 to bring a deeper life to your character. 220 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,269 ♪ ♪ 221 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,860 I was so scared. 222 00:14:31,940 --> 00:14:34,149 I sat in the back. 223 00:14:34,230 --> 00:14:37,610 I would've been happy if I never ended up performing in that class. 224 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,190 Eventually, after about two months, 225 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:42,820 Lee said, "Okay. 226 00:14:42,899 --> 00:14:45,610 "You know, tomorrow you're gonna do it." 227 00:14:47,779 --> 00:14:49,320 The class was fuller than usual. 228 00:14:49,399 --> 00:14:50,899 I think they wanted to come see 229 00:14:50,980 --> 00:14:53,360 Henry Fonda's daughter fall on her face. 230 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:54,940 ♪ ♪ 231 00:14:55,779 --> 00:14:58,490 And then I remember when I was through, 232 00:14:58,570 --> 00:15:00,740 Lee was silent for a long time. 233 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,480 And then he said, "You know, I see a lot of people come through here. 234 00:15:05,570 --> 00:15:07,649 You have real talent." 235 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,399 I swear... 236 00:15:13,149 --> 00:15:17,190 it was like someone had opened the top of my head and birds flew out. 237 00:15:19,740 --> 00:15:21,740 Man: Everyone off the steps. 238 00:15:25,610 --> 00:15:27,110 Jane: Diane? 239 00:15:30,110 --> 00:15:34,240 -Jane: I can't stand it! 240 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,899 Jane: The first time you really 241 00:15:36,980 --> 00:15:40,360 discover something you love, organically love to do, 242 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,019 you go to sleep loving it, 243 00:15:42,110 --> 00:15:43,570 and you wake up and you love it, 244 00:15:43,649 --> 00:15:45,190 and you don't have to think about it, 245 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:47,529 and you don't mind staying home alone at night 246 00:15:47,610 --> 00:15:49,740 because you've got this thing that you really love to do. 247 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,610 Charles Colllingwood: Jane Fonda decided to follow 248 00:16:00,690 --> 00:16:03,190 the well-known path trod by her distinguished father, 249 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:04,740 actor Henry Fonda. 250 00:16:04,820 --> 00:16:07,279 Jane worked as a photographer's model 251 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,690 to earn a living while she mastered the art. 252 00:16:10,649 --> 00:16:12,899 -Hello, Jane. -Hello, Charlie. 253 00:16:12,980 --> 00:16:16,230 I think that we caught you just moving into this apartment. 254 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,610 You certainly did. 255 00:16:17,690 --> 00:16:19,769 Jane, do you think it's important for a girl 256 00:16:19,860 --> 00:16:21,440 starting out to be on her own, 257 00:16:21,529 --> 00:16:23,490 to have her own apartment like this? 258 00:16:25,070 --> 00:16:27,149 Well, I think, uh... 259 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,279 it helps, I think, to be away from the family, 260 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,740 particularly for me. 261 00:16:31,820 --> 00:16:34,110 You know, if a child and the parent 262 00:16:34,190 --> 00:16:36,399 work in the same business, 263 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,940 it's uh, you feel more independent, you know. 264 00:16:39,029 --> 00:16:41,159 I feel... 265 00:16:41,230 --> 00:16:44,610 I don't have to always be explaining what I'm doing and everything like that. 266 00:16:44,690 --> 00:16:46,610 -Uh, you're-- - I hope my father's not listening to this. 267 00:16:46,690 --> 00:16:48,110 He probably is. 268 00:16:50,230 --> 00:16:52,899 Jane: I had this instantaneous career. 269 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,190 I was doing plays on Broadway. 270 00:16:57,279 --> 00:16:59,409 I was making movies in Hollywood. 271 00:17:00,940 --> 00:17:04,819 I was nominated for a Tony and won the New York Drama Critics' Circle Award 272 00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:08,940 for the most promising actress of the year for drama. 273 00:17:10,859 --> 00:17:14,319 Well, it says outside that-- that Brad and I are starring in the show, 274 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,190 you know, and that's one of the reasons that people are coming. 275 00:17:17,279 --> 00:17:19,700 But I don't feel... 276 00:17:20,569 --> 00:17:23,279 I don't feel that I can... 277 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,859 quite live up to that, you know? 278 00:17:27,740 --> 00:17:29,779 It's a funny feeling. 279 00:17:36,230 --> 00:17:37,980 Jane: During that period of time, 280 00:17:38,069 --> 00:17:40,200 I was asked to audition, for Kazan, 281 00:17:40,279 --> 00:17:44,819 for the female lead in Splendor in the Grass that Natalie Wood ended up doing. 282 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:46,859 It was in a theater, and Kazan 283 00:17:46,940 --> 00:17:48,900 called me down to the footlights 284 00:17:48,980 --> 00:17:52,059 and-- and he was standing below and he looked up at me, 285 00:17:52,150 --> 00:17:53,900 and he said, "Are you ambitious?" 286 00:17:53,980 --> 00:17:56,059 And I said, "No!" 287 00:17:56,940 --> 00:17:59,069 Talk about self-betrayal. 288 00:17:59,150 --> 00:18:02,529 I just wanted to be okay. 289 00:18:02,609 --> 00:18:05,109 I wanted to be a good girl. 290 00:18:06,279 --> 00:18:08,700 A good girl 291 00:18:08,779 --> 00:18:11,279 is not an ambitious person. 292 00:18:16,569 --> 00:18:19,740 Jane: I got hired for a whole string of girl next door, 293 00:18:19,819 --> 00:18:22,940 ingénues, and I became the actor 294 00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:25,200 that would get the light, romantic comedies 295 00:18:25,279 --> 00:18:29,240 that would start as plays on Broadway and then they'd be made into films. 296 00:18:33,190 --> 00:18:34,769 Ralph: She's already made him a sissy. 297 00:18:34,859 --> 00:18:36,230 George: Oh man, that do it every time. 298 00:18:36,319 --> 00:18:38,859 -Mm-hmm. -She'll be back tomorrow, at the latest. 299 00:18:38,940 --> 00:18:41,269 -Well, let 'em. 300 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,359 George, will you please get my little blue zipper bag? 301 00:18:45,980 --> 00:18:47,519 Please? 302 00:18:47,609 --> 00:18:49,069 You know what I had in mind? 303 00:18:49,150 --> 00:18:51,359 -Hong Kong. 304 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,059 : All right! I'll get it myself! 305 00:18:54,150 --> 00:18:57,359 -I'll go out and get it myself! 306 00:18:58,029 --> 00:18:59,740 ♪ ♪ 307 00:18:59,819 --> 00:19:01,490 Jane: You know, and I was, okay at it. 308 00:19:01,569 --> 00:19:02,990 I was all right. 309 00:19:04,900 --> 00:19:06,940 Oh, ow! 310 00:19:07,029 --> 00:19:08,490 I knew how to talk kind of high 311 00:19:08,569 --> 00:19:10,359 and blink my eyes and... 312 00:19:12,319 --> 00:19:14,400 ♪ ♪ 313 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:15,650 Whoa. 314 00:19:21,529 --> 00:19:23,569 This is the Plaza Hotel, please. 315 00:19:23,650 --> 00:19:25,319 Plaza. Corie, it's the Plaza. 316 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,529 Wait a minute, I'm not finished. 317 00:19:28,190 --> 00:19:29,769 Corie, the man is waiting, waiting. 318 00:19:29,859 --> 00:19:31,440 Give him a big tip. 319 00:19:31,529 --> 00:19:33,740 Paul, tell me you're not sorry we got married. 320 00:19:33,819 --> 00:19:36,609 After 40 minutes? Let's give it a couple of hours first. 321 00:19:36,690 --> 00:19:40,609 Paul, if the honeymoon doesn't work out, let's not get divorced, 322 00:19:40,690 --> 00:19:42,230 let's kill each other. 323 00:19:42,319 --> 00:19:43,650 Let's have one of the maids do it. 324 00:19:43,740 --> 00:19:45,359 I hear the service here is wonderful. 325 00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:48,059 ♪ ♪ 326 00:19:49,230 --> 00:19:52,269 Sometimes you just find yourself in sync, 327 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,279 and that happened from the very beginning with Jane. 328 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:55,650 There was just something that, 329 00:19:55,740 --> 00:19:58,359 that naturally developed between us. 330 00:19:59,069 --> 00:20:01,609 There was a chemistry that just was there, 331 00:20:01,690 --> 00:20:03,440 and it was also fun. 332 00:20:03,529 --> 00:20:05,359 ♪ ♪ 333 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,650 She saw the humor in things, 334 00:20:07,740 --> 00:20:09,490 but at the same time, 335 00:20:09,569 --> 00:20:12,779 she shared her insecurities and her doubts. 336 00:20:12,859 --> 00:20:14,609 ♪ ♪ 337 00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:16,859 In our friendship, we've been very honest with each other 338 00:20:16,940 --> 00:20:20,230 about our angers, our frustrations. 339 00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:25,019 And, at a certain point, Jane just had an instinct that said, 340 00:20:25,109 --> 00:20:28,279 "Down deep, there's something missing." 341 00:20:30,069 --> 00:20:32,200 Jane: A lot of other people were defining me, 342 00:20:32,279 --> 00:20:34,490 all of them men. 343 00:20:34,569 --> 00:20:37,650 I never felt real. 344 00:20:38,650 --> 00:20:43,029 I just thought, "I've got to get out from under my father's shadow. 345 00:20:43,109 --> 00:20:47,319 "Maybe if I go to France during the new wave period, 346 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,529 "I will... 347 00:20:49,609 --> 00:20:51,529 find who I really am." 348 00:20:51,609 --> 00:20:56,400 I was always in search of some per-- somebody that was real in there. 349 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,109 ♪ ♪ 350 00:22:17,569 --> 00:22:19,859 ♪ ♪ 351 00:22:25,029 --> 00:22:27,660 Jane: One night, when I first arrived in Paris, 352 00:22:27,740 --> 00:22:31,569 I was at Maxim's with a group of actors, 353 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,859 and Roger Vadim walked in. 354 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,019 I knew that he had a reputation. 355 00:22:39,109 --> 00:22:43,440 He had been married to Brigitte Bardot and he'd had a child with Catherine Deneuve. 356 00:22:43,529 --> 00:22:47,779 He had already directed And God Created Woman. 357 00:22:47,859 --> 00:22:50,029 He was a rock star. 358 00:22:51,109 --> 00:22:53,690 He walked in, and I immediately felt 359 00:22:53,779 --> 00:22:55,319 endangered. 360 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,529 He felt predatory, 361 00:22:57,609 --> 00:22:59,779 but charming, 362 00:22:59,859 --> 00:23:01,650 sexy. 363 00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:03,450 ♪ ♪ 364 00:23:06,740 --> 00:23:09,990 I promised myself, "I will never make a movie 365 00:23:10,069 --> 00:23:12,150 with Roger Vadim." 366 00:23:30,069 --> 00:23:32,819 Jane: I was making the Rene Clement movie 367 00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:34,400 called Les Felins . 368 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:35,980 ♪ ♪ 369 00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:38,480 Why are you looking at me like that? 370 00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:42,190 Am I attractive to you? 371 00:23:42,279 --> 00:23:44,029 I had just done a scene 372 00:23:44,109 --> 00:23:47,359 where I'm in a teddy, you know, a little underwear, 373 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,019 and, uh, I-- I got a... 374 00:23:50,109 --> 00:23:53,900 message that Vadim was in the canteen and-- and wanted to see me. 375 00:23:53,980 --> 00:23:55,650 ♪ ♪ 376 00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:59,240 I realized that I was excited to see him. 377 00:23:59,319 --> 00:24:02,740 I threw on my trench coat, 378 00:24:02,819 --> 00:24:04,740 and as I ran into the canteen, 379 00:24:04,819 --> 00:24:08,240 the trench coat blew open. 380 00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:10,779 ♪ ♪ 381 00:24:10,859 --> 00:24:14,150 And that night, we went back to my hotel. 382 00:24:14,940 --> 00:24:18,109 He didn't speak very good English. 383 00:24:18,190 --> 00:24:21,400 Maybe if he had, I'd never have married him. 384 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,150 ♪ ♪ 385 00:24:24,529 --> 00:24:27,200 You know, Vadim's so charismatic, 386 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:30,819 so utterly seductive and charming. 387 00:24:32,819 --> 00:24:35,279 You walked down the Champs-Élysées with Vadim, 388 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,109 it was like walking down the street with Robert Redford. 389 00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:39,109 I mean, people would like... 390 00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:41,859 They'd freak and ask for his autograph, and... 391 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,150 Our life together was heady and, um, slightly hedonistic. 392 00:24:50,690 --> 00:24:53,269 But then there was this old shoe quality to him, 393 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,400 it was this comfortable part of him. 394 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,019 Nathalie! 395 00:24:57,529 --> 00:25:00,569 Jane: He'd cross town to see his daughter every day. 396 00:25:01,190 --> 00:25:02,569 Aww. 397 00:25:03,980 --> 00:25:05,230 Oh. 398 00:25:05,319 --> 00:25:07,359 ♪ ♪ 399 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,059 Nathalie Vadim: Jane came into my life when I was three. 400 00:25:11,150 --> 00:25:13,230 She looked very young, I remember that. 401 00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:14,700 Younger than she was. 402 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,319 I would see my biological mother rarely. 403 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,109 And Jane was always there. 404 00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:24,230 And so I became really close to her. 405 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,569 She became my surrogate mother, basically, 406 00:25:29,190 --> 00:25:32,400 and the person who-- who raised me. 407 00:25:34,069 --> 00:25:38,029 Jane: We moved into a farmhouse that I bought outside of Paris. 408 00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:41,450 There was something so appealing to me 409 00:25:41,529 --> 00:25:44,069 about putting down roots. 410 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,690 I saw myself 411 00:25:46,779 --> 00:25:49,109 being married and having a family 412 00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:50,859 and living in France. 413 00:25:52,569 --> 00:25:53,940 Well, 414 00:25:54,029 --> 00:25:58,069 Vadim was so full of contradictions. 415 00:25:58,150 --> 00:26:01,609 There were a lot of issues that I just chose not to see. 416 00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:07,730 I didn't know what compulsive gambling was or alcoholism. 417 00:26:08,980 --> 00:26:12,980 If I would complain, he would call me bourgeois. 418 00:26:13,779 --> 00:26:17,200 Oh my God... forbid that you would ever be worried about money 419 00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:20,319 or complain about money or complain about 420 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,279 extramarital affairs or anything like that. 421 00:26:24,109 --> 00:26:28,190 Nathalie: When she finds an interest, she's focused on it. 422 00:26:28,279 --> 00:26:32,410 At that point, that interest was Vadim, so... 423 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,609 she became what Vadim wanted. 424 00:26:35,279 --> 00:26:37,660 Merv Griffin: Does he know you that well, Jane? 425 00:26:37,740 --> 00:26:40,450 I think he, he knows me better than I know me. 426 00:26:41,980 --> 00:26:45,859 Actresses are usually quite... dumb. 427 00:26:45,940 --> 00:26:49,400 We're really quite stupid about what we think we can do well. 428 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,769 And it's the director that comes along 429 00:26:51,859 --> 00:26:54,029 and makes us use muscles we've never used before. 430 00:26:54,109 --> 00:26:56,900 Vadim... does that all the time. 431 00:26:56,980 --> 00:26:59,940 I would say, "I can't do that, I-- I can't play that scene." 432 00:27:00,029 --> 00:27:03,859 And he'd make me do it, and they'd be the good scenes. 433 00:27:03,940 --> 00:27:07,900 Jane: Here I was, trying to not be defined by men, 434 00:27:07,980 --> 00:27:11,230 ended up with a man who was the ultimate 435 00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:14,490 definer of femininity. 436 00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,109 That's where I was at that time. 437 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:21,660 I wanted someone to mold me. 438 00:27:22,690 --> 00:27:24,150 I wanted him... 439 00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:27,559 to help me become a woman. 440 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:29,819 ♪ ♪ 441 00:27:33,069 --> 00:27:38,400 Dino De Laurentiis sent me the very famous French comic book called, Barbarella. 442 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,650 He wanted to make a movie, and would I play Barbarella. 443 00:27:42,690 --> 00:27:46,819 Now, I knew that Bardot had turned it down, Sophia Loren had turned it down, 444 00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:49,900 and I didn't want to do it. 445 00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:52,309 I mean, I look at these pictures, 446 00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:55,319 I didn't identify with Barbarella. 447 00:27:55,859 --> 00:27:59,069 Well, Vadim was, I think, 448 00:27:59,150 --> 00:28:03,319 probably the number one science fiction aficionado in the world. 449 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,359 So, when you have a science fiction story that's about sex... 450 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,230 there was no way I was not gonna do this movie, and he was going to direct it. 451 00:28:14,609 --> 00:28:16,569 ♪ ♪ 452 00:28:23,529 --> 00:28:27,200 Vadim wanted the film to open with a space strip tease. 453 00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:29,240 ♪ ♪ 454 00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:33,160 He took the set 455 00:28:33,230 --> 00:28:35,269 and turned it so that 456 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,779 the opening of the set was facing the ceiling of the sound stage. 457 00:28:38,859 --> 00:28:42,980 Then he put a very thick pane of glass over it, 458 00:28:43,069 --> 00:28:45,359 and then I laid on top of the glass 459 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,569 like I was floating in space. 460 00:28:48,569 --> 00:28:51,990 ♪ Barbarella psychedella ♪ 461 00:28:52,069 --> 00:28:55,569 Man: ♪ Barbarella psychedella ♪ 462 00:28:55,650 --> 00:29:00,980 ♪ Never can a fella name or call you ♪ 463 00:29:01,069 --> 00:29:03,200 ♪ Barbarella Ba-ba-ba... ♪ 464 00:29:03,279 --> 00:29:05,450 Jane: And then I had to be naked. 465 00:29:06,980 --> 00:29:10,980 I was drunk. I drank so much vodka to do that. 466 00:29:11,819 --> 00:29:14,819 It was so terrifying for me. 467 00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:18,109 ♪ Ba-Ba-Barbarella! ♪ 468 00:29:18,940 --> 00:29:23,069 And then the next morning, we hear that a bat 469 00:29:23,150 --> 00:29:24,650 had flown... 470 00:29:24,740 --> 00:29:26,410 between me and the camera 471 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:27,900 that was hanging from the ceiling. 472 00:29:27,980 --> 00:29:30,690 and spoiled the take and we had to do it again. 473 00:29:30,779 --> 00:29:32,109 Oh, God. 474 00:29:32,190 --> 00:29:33,940 So the take that actually got used, 475 00:29:34,029 --> 00:29:36,950 I was not only drunk, I was hungover, too. 476 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,809 Are you typical of Earth women? 477 00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:44,279 I'm about average. 478 00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:46,650 ♪ ♪ 479 00:29:48,529 --> 00:29:51,410 Jane: When I look at the movie now, I thoroughly enjoy it. 480 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,059 I mean, I think it's just a camp 481 00:29:54,150 --> 00:29:57,230 romp, really. I don't think it's particularly sexy. 482 00:29:57,319 --> 00:29:58,819 ♪ ♪ 483 00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:04,980 I wasn't a questioner. 484 00:30:05,819 --> 00:30:08,740 Superficial can come pretty easy to me. 485 00:30:08,819 --> 00:30:12,190 I mean, it's more convenient. 486 00:30:13,529 --> 00:30:14,859 You know, I spent... 487 00:30:16,029 --> 00:30:19,859 quite a few decades not asking too many questions. 488 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,650 ♪ ♪ 489 00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:29,940 There was a time when 490 00:30:30,029 --> 00:30:31,819 I believed so strongly 491 00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:34,609 that if American soldiers were fighting somewhere, 492 00:30:34,690 --> 00:30:37,440 we had to be on the side of the angels. 493 00:30:37,529 --> 00:30:41,319 It was inconceivable to me that it could be otherwise. 494 00:30:42,819 --> 00:30:45,109 My father had fought in the Second World War. 495 00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:47,900 He was so proud of it, I understood that. 496 00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:49,769 ♪ ♪ 497 00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:53,940 I mean, I was Miss Army Recruiter in 1959. 498 00:30:58,529 --> 00:31:01,910 I remember in 1964, 499 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,150 Vadim and I were in St. Tropez. 500 00:31:05,230 --> 00:31:07,690 He picked up the paper, and the headlines 501 00:31:07,779 --> 00:31:12,740 were talking about how Congress had passed the Tonkin Gulf Resolution. 502 00:31:16,690 --> 00:31:18,109 Vadim erupted, 503 00:31:18,190 --> 00:31:19,980 my non-political husband. 504 00:31:23,569 --> 00:31:27,240 "What are they doing? There is no way they can win that war." 505 00:31:28,569 --> 00:31:31,069 "Your Congress is out of its mind." 506 00:31:31,740 --> 00:31:35,200 And I'm thinking, "Sour grapes. Just 'cause you guys didn't win, 507 00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:39,069 the French, when you fought the Vietnamese." You know? 508 00:31:39,150 --> 00:31:42,859 That was how... little I knew. 509 00:31:42,940 --> 00:31:44,480 ♪ ♪ 510 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,309 I had grown very close to Simone Signoret. 511 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,980 She was one of the top French movie stars. 512 00:31:55,819 --> 00:31:57,819 And she had become an activist. 513 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,019 Artists, writers, poets, philosophers 514 00:32:02,109 --> 00:32:05,279 were at the forefront of activism. 515 00:32:05,980 --> 00:32:07,730 Simone de Beauvoir, 516 00:32:07,819 --> 00:32:09,609 Jean Paul Sartre. 517 00:32:11,609 --> 00:32:13,569 I didn't really move in those circles 518 00:32:13,650 --> 00:32:15,859 with the exception of Simone Signoret. 519 00:32:16,980 --> 00:32:18,519 She kind of... 520 00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:21,359 opened the door a crack for me. 521 00:32:21,779 --> 00:32:23,910 But, you know, I remember thinking, 522 00:32:23,980 --> 00:32:26,769 "I'm not as smart as she thinks I am." 523 00:32:26,859 --> 00:32:28,279 ♪ ♪ 524 00:32:29,109 --> 00:32:30,690 1968. 525 00:32:32,150 --> 00:32:34,319 I was pregnant. 526 00:32:34,940 --> 00:32:37,519 I think that when a woman is pregnant, 527 00:32:38,819 --> 00:32:42,569 more than ever, she's like a sponge. 528 00:32:42,650 --> 00:32:48,779 Very attuned to and receptive to what's in the ether. 529 00:32:48,859 --> 00:32:51,480 Not just around her, but in the world. 530 00:32:54,650 --> 00:32:57,400 I'm watching on television the Tet Offensive. 531 00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:00,779 ♪ ♪ 532 00:33:02,819 --> 00:33:06,450 I'm looking at newsreel from Chicago. 533 00:33:06,529 --> 00:33:08,740 Tom Hayden: We are going to gather here 534 00:33:08,819 --> 00:33:10,819 by any means necessary. 535 00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:15,690 The demonstrations, the beatings, the bloodiness. 536 00:33:16,980 --> 00:33:18,519 I thought of Simone. 537 00:33:19,150 --> 00:33:20,569 I drove to her farmhouse 538 00:33:20,650 --> 00:33:22,029 out in the country. 539 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,400 And I remember, she opened the door and she said, 540 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,150 "I've been waiting for you." 541 00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:30,900 She said, "I knew you'd come to talk about the war." 542 00:33:30,980 --> 00:33:33,190 ♪ ♪ 543 00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:46,779 Simone explained to me that, 544 00:33:46,859 --> 00:33:50,279 that the Vietnamese had been fighting for thousands of years, 545 00:33:50,779 --> 00:33:54,410 against the Mongols, against China. 546 00:33:55,359 --> 00:33:57,069 They had always won. 547 00:33:59,190 --> 00:34:01,190 For America to fight a war 548 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:03,859 thousands and thousands of miles away, 549 00:34:03,940 --> 00:34:06,480 in a country that they didn't understand, 550 00:34:06,569 --> 00:34:08,699 against a people who... 551 00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:11,530 wanted, above all else, independence. 552 00:34:15,190 --> 00:34:17,400 There was no way that we could win. 553 00:34:19,610 --> 00:34:22,360 You know, it's funny, suddenly, 554 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,690 I felt, more than I ever had, 555 00:34:25,780 --> 00:34:27,239 American. 556 00:34:28,610 --> 00:34:30,820 It seems completely contradictory, 557 00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:32,650 you know, in a few years, 558 00:34:32,739 --> 00:34:34,070 people that didn't like me were saying, 559 00:34:34,150 --> 00:34:35,730 "Go back to Hanoi," and all that. 560 00:34:35,820 --> 00:34:39,239 But I felt, "No, no, no, this is... 561 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,239 "We've taken a wrong path. 562 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,030 "I want to be with my people, in my country, 563 00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:47,400 "and try to make this right." 564 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,480 ♪ ♪ 565 00:34:49,570 --> 00:34:53,110 I really, I wanted my life to have meaning. 566 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,320 But I was married, and I was pregnant, and... 567 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,400 Oh my gosh. I don't know what to do. 568 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,059 I said, I just don't know what to do. 569 00:35:05,150 --> 00:35:08,030 She realized that 570 00:35:08,110 --> 00:35:11,190 there was more to life than just being a housewife, actress. 571 00:35:12,030 --> 00:35:14,449 And Vadim, although progressive, 572 00:35:14,530 --> 00:35:19,360 getting involved in politics, and really getting involved, was not his thing. 573 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,400 Jane: Vanessa was born... 574 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,400 and it was a very, very, very traumatic birth. 575 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,809 They used forceps, and they tore me. 576 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,900 I hemorrhaged a lot. 577 00:35:31,980 --> 00:35:35,559 I was suffering from postpartum depression. 578 00:35:35,650 --> 00:35:37,730 My milk didn't come... 579 00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:41,280 That bond that's supposed to happen, um, 580 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,320 it just didn't. 581 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,650 I felt like I was the bad mother, 582 00:35:46,739 --> 00:35:49,530 and I was terrified. 583 00:35:50,739 --> 00:35:54,739 It surprised me, this feeling of fear. 584 00:35:56,190 --> 00:36:00,320 And, you know, later on, as I look back on it, I know why. 585 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,900 It was because... 586 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,860 It's hard to talk about. Um... 587 00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:18,610 I always saw my mother as a victim. 588 00:36:18,690 --> 00:36:22,190 Women equals victim. 589 00:36:23,530 --> 00:36:25,530 "I am a woman, 590 00:36:25,610 --> 00:36:29,900 I am gonna be damaged, I am gonna be crushed." 591 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,320 My mother was a very complicated woman, 592 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,150 very, very beautiful woman, 593 00:36:41,230 --> 00:36:44,559 but she always seemed sick. 594 00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:48,269 We'd sit in the living room, and she'd hold my hand, 595 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,190 and her hand would be trembling like this. 596 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,159 And... 597 00:36:54,230 --> 00:36:59,150 I didn't want her to feel bad so I would make my hand tremble, too. 598 00:36:59,230 --> 00:37:02,309 I mean, it was-- it was hard to figure out 599 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,610 what was happening with her. 600 00:37:04,690 --> 00:37:07,110 ♪ ♪ 601 00:37:08,150 --> 00:37:10,690 Poor mom. 602 00:37:10,780 --> 00:37:15,360 I think my father was not the person she ever should have married. 603 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,400 He was not kind to her. 604 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,980 My father went to Broadway to do Mr. Roberts. 605 00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:26,030 And so we moved to Connecticut. 606 00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:28,989 My mother... that was where her mental health 607 00:37:29,070 --> 00:37:31,610 was really deteriorating. 608 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,980 I didn't know it at the time, 609 00:37:35,070 --> 00:37:37,989 but the sister of the stage manager 610 00:37:38,820 --> 00:37:41,699 was seven years older than me, 611 00:37:41,780 --> 00:37:45,159 and my father had fallen in love with her. 612 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,110 It was a difficult time for my mother, obviously. 613 00:37:50,190 --> 00:37:51,519 ♪ ♪ 614 00:37:51,610 --> 00:37:54,320 I remember sitting at dinner... 615 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,190 We ate Spam, 616 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,949 not all the time, 617 00:38:00,030 --> 00:38:03,909 but occasionally, it would be canned fruit and Spam. 618 00:38:03,980 --> 00:38:05,190 Very weird. 619 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,440 And sitting at the table, 620 00:38:08,530 --> 00:38:10,699 I looked down and my mother was-- 621 00:38:10,780 --> 00:38:13,570 there were tears pouring down her face 622 00:38:13,650 --> 00:38:15,570 onto her dinner plate. 623 00:38:15,650 --> 00:38:19,860 And my grandmother was here, and my brother-- and no one said a word. 624 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,440 ♪ ♪ 625 00:38:24,690 --> 00:38:26,900 And I remember, one afternoon her 626 00:38:26,980 --> 00:38:29,690 being taken to a hospital. 627 00:38:31,530 --> 00:38:33,489 The last time she came home, 628 00:38:33,570 --> 00:38:36,110 she has convinced the people at the institution 629 00:38:36,190 --> 00:38:38,320 that she was getting well and they let her come home, 630 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,900 with a nurse accompanying her. 631 00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:44,150 My brother and I had been upstairs playing jacks. 632 00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:46,739 Grandma called for us to come down, 633 00:38:46,820 --> 00:38:48,190 and I wouldn't go. 634 00:38:49,150 --> 00:38:52,280 I said to Peter, "You go and I'll let you win, 635 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,150 if you go down, I'm not going." 636 00:38:56,820 --> 00:38:58,650 I never saw her again. 637 00:39:00,150 --> 00:39:04,610 That was the day she snuck a razor out of the house, 638 00:39:04,690 --> 00:39:07,150 and then killed herself. 639 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,150 I came home from school one day, 640 00:39:13,230 --> 00:39:15,980 my father and my grandmother were sitting in the living room, 641 00:39:16,070 --> 00:39:17,610 and they sat me down, and they said, 642 00:39:17,690 --> 00:39:20,400 "Your mother died of a heart attack." 643 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,820 I could hear Peter crying. 644 00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:28,650 And I kept thinking, "Why can't I cry?" I never cried. 645 00:39:28,739 --> 00:39:31,619 I never cried, I sat on the edge of my bed 646 00:39:31,690 --> 00:39:33,400 thinking, "What's the matter with me?" 647 00:39:34,570 --> 00:39:36,150 And people would say, 648 00:39:36,230 --> 00:39:39,150 "God, Jane isn't she amazing? 649 00:39:39,230 --> 00:39:42,309 "She's so strong." 650 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:47,320 So it was like approbation for keeping it all in. 651 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,690 And that became my modus operandi. 652 00:39:50,610 --> 00:39:52,690 Um... 653 00:39:52,780 --> 00:39:56,739 it was very hard for me to ever be able to kinda do away 654 00:39:56,820 --> 00:39:58,860 with that. It took a long, long time. 655 00:39:58,940 --> 00:40:00,190 Um... 656 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,820 Susan Lacy: Did you notice, uh, or observe 657 00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:06,030 how your father reacted to your mother's death? 658 00:40:06,110 --> 00:40:08,360 Well, dad came out and he dropped the news, 659 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,690 and then went back to New York and did his play. 660 00:40:11,780 --> 00:40:12,739 Um... 661 00:40:12,820 --> 00:40:14,650 that was dad. 662 00:40:14,739 --> 00:40:16,820 The show must go on. 663 00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:19,070 ♪ ♪ 664 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,860 My father took me to Union Station, 665 00:40:27,940 --> 00:40:29,400 with my suitcase, 666 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,809 and put me on the train to boarding school. 667 00:40:34,860 --> 00:40:37,570 He was newly married. 668 00:40:37,650 --> 00:40:40,570 He was in a play on Broadway, and... 669 00:40:40,650 --> 00:40:42,860 making films in the summer. I mean, it was obvious 670 00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:46,190 that Peter and I couldn't continue living at home with him. 671 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,980 Nobody had ever talked to us about what had happened with my mother. 672 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,059 I found out because of a movie magazine. 673 00:40:57,150 --> 00:41:02,900 And it said, "Henry Fonda's ex-wife, Frances de Villers Fonda, 674 00:41:02,980 --> 00:41:06,940 "cut her throat with a razor at the Riggs Institute," and... 675 00:41:10,650 --> 00:41:12,820 ♪ ♪ 676 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,780 It was an awkward situation on a lot of different levels. 677 00:41:16,860 --> 00:41:20,780 And, to my dad, boarding school was getting us 678 00:41:20,860 --> 00:41:22,320 into a safe place, 679 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,280 and it was also getting us out of his hair. 680 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,570 ♪ ♪ 681 00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:56,400 It was like a haven. 682 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:01,190 It was a-- it was the steady thing in my life. It was the core of my life. 683 00:42:04,070 --> 00:42:05,860 I became very aware 684 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:08,690 of the fact that I was really different, 685 00:42:08,780 --> 00:42:11,860 not just because my father was famous. 686 00:42:12,940 --> 00:42:15,730 We just lived differently. 687 00:42:18,739 --> 00:42:22,159 There was no... continuity. 688 00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:24,440 Susan was his third wife, 689 00:42:24,530 --> 00:42:26,610 he would have two more after that. 690 00:42:28,190 --> 00:42:30,440 I didn't have a community of friends 691 00:42:30,530 --> 00:42:33,199 that I had gone to school with before I came here. 692 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,070 My friends were the friends that I made here. 693 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,610 I loved it. 694 00:42:40,940 --> 00:42:43,480 I loved biology. 695 00:42:43,570 --> 00:42:44,820 I also loved history. 696 00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:47,150 I loved the Roman and Greek history. 697 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,320 That's how I got into bulimia, 698 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,730 learning about how the Romans would gorge themselves and then... 699 00:42:55,780 --> 00:42:57,030 I had a roommate, 700 00:42:57,110 --> 00:42:58,570 Carol Bentley. 701 00:42:59,610 --> 00:43:02,110 Carol taught me to do this. 702 00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:04,820 And of course... 703 00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:07,150 you know, we didn't realize... 704 00:43:07,230 --> 00:43:10,190 what we were starting, we didn't realize how-- 705 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,239 how dangerous it was, and how addictive, 706 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,530 and how it would affect so much of our lives. 707 00:43:16,610 --> 00:43:17,980 But it's-- it started here. 708 00:43:18,070 --> 00:43:19,860 ♪ ♪ 709 00:43:19,940 --> 00:43:22,519 You never told anybody that you were... 710 00:43:22,610 --> 00:43:24,070 doing this. 711 00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:26,730 I thought it was just her and me and the Romans. 712 00:43:26,820 --> 00:43:29,320 It never occurred to me that anybody else did it. 713 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,239 ♪ ♪ 714 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,239 Mothers are often blamed for that, but for me, 715 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,489 it was-- it was my dad. 716 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,570 I made him ashamed. 717 00:43:41,650 --> 00:43:43,440 He thought I was fat... 718 00:43:45,150 --> 00:43:48,400 because I didn't look the way he wanted me to look. 719 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,610 I knew that he didn't want me around, 720 00:43:50,690 --> 00:43:52,269 or that I embarrassed him, 721 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,280 and, I mean, he told people that. 722 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,280 I heard my father say things about my body 723 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,320 that has twisted my life in deep ways ever since. 724 00:44:04,030 --> 00:44:09,110 And, by the way, most of his wives suffered from eating disorders, 725 00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:10,980 including my mother. 726 00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:16,230 So the shadow of my mother's suicide, 727 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,239 which happened a year before I went to Emma Willard, 728 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,530 was never far away. 729 00:44:35,860 --> 00:44:38,150 I'm gonna get off this merry-go-round. 730 00:44:40,030 --> 00:44:42,909 I'm so sick of the whole stinkin' thing. 731 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,440 What thing? 732 00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:51,610 Life. 733 00:45:02,570 --> 00:45:06,940 They Shoot Horses, Don't They? was the first time I had ever made a movie that... 734 00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:10,320 was about something. 735 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,480 It's a metaphor, in a way, 736 00:45:12,570 --> 00:45:14,320 for... 737 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,030 American society, greed. 738 00:45:17,940 --> 00:45:20,480 And the desperation of people who don't 739 00:45:20,570 --> 00:45:22,190 have money and privilege. 740 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,739 ♪ ♪ 741 00:45:25,110 --> 00:45:26,400 During the Depression, 742 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,860 people would go to these dance marathons 743 00:45:28,940 --> 00:45:31,150 to try to win all kinds of prizes. 744 00:45:31,230 --> 00:45:34,110 And they would dance without stopping for weeks. 745 00:45:36,650 --> 00:45:38,980 Announcer: These wonderful kids deserve your cheers 746 00:45:39,070 --> 00:45:40,400 because each one of them 747 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,190 is fighting down pain, exhaustion, weariness, 748 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,530 struggling to keep going, battling to win. 749 00:45:47,610 --> 00:45:50,400 And isn't that the American way? 750 00:45:56,780 --> 00:45:58,360 Jane: Before we started shooting, 751 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,690 Sydney Pollack called me. 752 00:46:00,780 --> 00:46:02,739 I didn't know who he was. 753 00:46:02,820 --> 00:46:05,860 He'd made, maybe, one other movie. 754 00:46:05,940 --> 00:46:09,860 And I'll never forget it, he said, "You know, what do you think of the script? 755 00:46:09,940 --> 00:46:12,900 "Tell me what you think we've left out. 756 00:46:12,980 --> 00:46:15,559 "Let me know if you think there's something important." 757 00:46:15,650 --> 00:46:18,940 Well, I mean, no director had-- including my husband, 758 00:46:19,030 --> 00:46:20,739 who directed me in several movies-- 759 00:46:20,820 --> 00:46:24,940 had ever... talked to me that way, 760 00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:28,360 asked my opinion about things that were profound. 761 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,360 Sydney Pollack: I always had this sense that she was... 762 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,230 a serious actress 763 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,739 buried inside this glamour-puss. 764 00:46:37,820 --> 00:46:39,699 Work, work, work! 765 00:46:39,780 --> 00:46:41,739 They Shoot Horses, Don't They? was a much darker film, 766 00:46:41,820 --> 00:46:45,900 and asked her to go to a different place in herself. 767 00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:47,519 And she was great in the role. 768 00:46:47,610 --> 00:46:52,150 There's not a shred of vanity in the performance. 769 00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:54,900 Jane: Syndey made me feel seen, 770 00:46:54,980 --> 00:46:56,519 and of worth. 771 00:46:57,570 --> 00:47:00,070 And so I thought, "Yeah, I'm gonna go there." 772 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,449 I threw myself into the character 773 00:47:03,530 --> 00:47:05,610 the way I never had before. 774 00:47:05,690 --> 00:47:07,900 ♪ ♪ 775 00:47:07,980 --> 00:47:09,940 I lived at the studio. 776 00:47:10,030 --> 00:47:13,949 I looked at paintings and pictures of crazy people. 777 00:47:14,030 --> 00:47:17,530 I wrapped myself in a cocoon of darkness. 778 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:23,110 I had a... six-month-old child and a husband. 779 00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:28,150 But I just didn't have the technique yet where I could go 780 00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:32,269 as far down the dark hole as I possibly could, 781 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,400 and be a wife and mother. 782 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,610 I had to stay in the dark hole. 783 00:47:37,690 --> 00:47:39,650 ♪ ♪ 784 00:47:39,739 --> 00:47:42,949 The presence of my mother was with me. 785 00:47:43,739 --> 00:47:47,619 I had to get myself to a point 786 00:47:47,690 --> 00:47:51,400 where I really felt... "Why go on? 787 00:47:53,230 --> 00:47:56,559 There's absolutely no point." 788 00:48:05,570 --> 00:48:06,699 Now? 789 00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:09,400 Now. 790 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,559 ♪ ♪ 791 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,900 Then, something shifted. 792 00:48:26,570 --> 00:48:31,400 My wig from They Shoot Horses comes off, 793 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,690 I've got this long, still-Barbarella-esque hair, 794 00:48:35,780 --> 00:48:39,989 and I just thought, "This is not me anymore." 795 00:48:41,820 --> 00:48:44,320 I had my first hair epiphany. 796 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,030 ♪ ♪ 797 00:48:47,110 --> 00:48:49,489 Someone said my hair needed its own agent. 798 00:48:51,110 --> 00:48:53,780 And I went to Vadim's barber, Paul McGregor, 799 00:48:54,820 --> 00:48:57,820 who had a salon in Greenwich Village, 800 00:48:58,820 --> 00:49:01,400 and I said, "Do something. 801 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,860 Cut if off." 802 00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:04,190 ♪ ♪ 803 00:49:05,820 --> 00:49:09,110 And he gave me what has become known as the Klute hairdo. 804 00:49:16,150 --> 00:49:20,230 I was very conflicted about whether it was a good idea to be playing a hooker. 805 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,150 ♪ ♪ 806 00:49:24,110 --> 00:49:25,940 Before we started shooting, 807 00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:29,320 I came to New York and spent a week with call girls and madams, 808 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,030 really in the bowels of that dark world. 809 00:49:35,610 --> 00:49:38,070 There was a hardness 810 00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:40,690 to them that was painful to watch. 811 00:49:41,570 --> 00:49:46,110 Not one pimp looked at me twice, 812 00:49:46,190 --> 00:49:47,940 didn't even wink at me. 813 00:49:48,030 --> 00:49:51,610 And what that said to me was, it played right to my insecurities, 814 00:49:51,690 --> 00:49:53,110 "They know... 815 00:49:53,190 --> 00:49:57,900 I'm just an upper-class, privileged pretender." 816 00:49:58,690 --> 00:50:01,480 And that's what motivated me to say to Alan Pakula, 817 00:50:01,570 --> 00:50:04,610 "I just-- I don't-- I don't know if I can play this character. 818 00:50:04,690 --> 00:50:06,860 And you should hire Faye Dunaway." 819 00:50:07,650 --> 00:50:09,820 Pakula: She came up to me and she said, "Alan, I want out. 820 00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:11,690 I don't know what I'm doing." 821 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,280 And "I just think I'm wrong for this. 822 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,320 I think it's not gonna work." 823 00:50:17,650 --> 00:50:19,280 Get somebody else." 824 00:50:21,610 --> 00:50:23,480 And I said, "I'm not letting you out." 825 00:50:23,570 --> 00:50:25,360 ♪ ♪ 826 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,150 There was no way I would have done that picture without Jane. 827 00:50:27,230 --> 00:50:30,480 Jane is a fascinating combination 828 00:50:30,570 --> 00:50:32,650 of a woman who has great courage, 829 00:50:32,739 --> 00:50:35,489 great strength, and at the same time, 830 00:50:35,570 --> 00:50:39,030 had been used to being-- like maybe attracted to being controlled 831 00:50:39,110 --> 00:50:41,190 by somebody else. 832 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,449 And I thought, where Jane was in her life then, 833 00:50:44,530 --> 00:50:47,320 in a very transition time, was absolutely right 834 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,690 for this character of a woman who's trying to change her life. 835 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,360 Jane: I brought something different to Klute 836 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,820 than I had before. 837 00:50:56,900 --> 00:50:58,780 She was wounded. 838 00:50:58,860 --> 00:51:00,860 There was no ability to trust anymore, 839 00:51:00,940 --> 00:51:03,980 that was what was so hard for her. 840 00:51:04,070 --> 00:51:08,239 Once I began to kind of marinate in that feeling, 841 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,360 I could, um... then I could play her. 842 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,940 ♪ ♪ 843 00:51:15,230 --> 00:51:17,360 Psychiatrist: What's the difference between going out on a call 844 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,400 as a model or as an actress or as a call girl? 845 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,519 You're successful as a call girl, you're not suc-- 846 00:51:21,610 --> 00:51:24,070 Because when you're a call girl, you control it, that's why. 847 00:51:24,150 --> 00:51:27,730 Jane: I said to Alan, "Can we shoot all those psychiatrist's scenes 848 00:51:27,820 --> 00:51:29,650 "at the very, very end... 849 00:51:31,780 --> 00:51:34,909 when I've internalized her the most completely?" 850 00:51:35,940 --> 00:51:37,230 Nothing was written. 851 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,360 I hadn't prepared anything in particular. 852 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,190 I just wanted to be present in the moment, 853 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,360 and let whatever happened happen. 854 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,360 I just started improvising. 855 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,150 And for an hour... 856 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,030 For an hour, I'm the best actress in the world 857 00:51:54,110 --> 00:51:56,440 and the best fuck in the world, and... 858 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:58,780 you don't have to feel anything, 859 00:51:58,860 --> 00:52:00,860 you don't have to care about anything, 860 00:52:00,940 --> 00:52:03,570 you don't have to like anybody... 861 00:52:03,650 --> 00:52:06,780 Jane: That came from a new place in me. 862 00:52:06,860 --> 00:52:10,230 That's when I realized that anyone can change 863 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,400 and become fierce. 864 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,610 ♪ ♪ 865 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,650 Julian Pettifer: Jane Fonda, you've been taking your public by surprise recently. 866 00:52:30,739 --> 00:52:35,030 Instead of being pictured on the beaches of St. Tropez, you've been pictured 867 00:52:35,690 --> 00:52:39,110 invading Army camps and getting yourself arrested. 868 00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:42,480 From where I am, it looks like a different Jane Fonda. 869 00:52:42,570 --> 00:52:45,030 Oh, I think you're right. I think I am different. 870 00:52:46,070 --> 00:52:49,280 Roger Vadim is French, a director of motion pictures, 871 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,650 and the husband of Jane Fonda. 872 00:52:51,739 --> 00:52:54,449 Ms. Fonda is quite active in the peace movement, 873 00:52:54,530 --> 00:52:57,780 the civil rights field, efforts to aid Mexican-Americans, 874 00:52:57,860 --> 00:53:00,400 American-Indians, and dissident soldiers. 875 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,900 Vadim says, "Ms. Fonda is happy, very happy. 876 00:53:02,980 --> 00:53:05,269 "But said she decided," as he put it, 877 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,190 "To take on the sins of her country, she has lost her sense of humor." 878 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,780 As a case in point, 879 00:53:10,860 --> 00:53:13,280 he reported that one day, recently, he called her 880 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,690 "Jane of Arc." 881 00:53:14,780 --> 00:53:16,530 He says, she didn't laugh at all. 882 00:53:16,610 --> 00:53:18,280 ♪ ♪ 883 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,940 Jane: I knew that I was gonna have to leave Vadim, 884 00:53:21,030 --> 00:53:25,659 and that whole hedonistic relationship. 885 00:53:25,739 --> 00:53:29,530 And I think it was deeply confusing for him 886 00:53:29,610 --> 00:53:32,820 to have a wife that he cared for leave him-- 887 00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:35,860 not for another man, but for an idea. 888 00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:36,940 ♪ ♪ 889 00:53:38,739 --> 00:53:42,030 Nathalie: She tends to move on from things. 890 00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:45,980 You know, you don't really realize how you affect people when you do that. 891 00:53:46,070 --> 00:53:48,199 It's like, "Oh, okay, now I'm done with this, 892 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,610 therefore I'm gonna make new friends, and it's gonna be a new life." 893 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,519 You know, and we got left behind. 894 00:53:54,610 --> 00:53:55,980 ♪ ♪ 895 00:53:58,150 --> 00:54:00,570 Jane: I came back from France 896 00:54:00,650 --> 00:54:03,030 and I moved into my father's house. 897 00:54:03,110 --> 00:54:06,739 And I began to... become an activist. 898 00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:11,360 And my father could look from the upstairs window 899 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,360 down onto the courtyard and see 900 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:18,360 the leadership of the Black Panther Party going in and out, 901 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,190 and he said to me, "If I find out 902 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,699 you are a Communist, I'm gonna turn you in!" 903 00:54:24,780 --> 00:54:29,280 And I remember running to my room, I was still living with him, 904 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,780 and just pulling the covers over my head. 905 00:54:32,650 --> 00:54:34,860 It came out of a fear, for me 906 00:54:34,940 --> 00:54:38,320 I understand that now, but it was so hurtful then. 907 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,400 If you were good young people, you would be fitting yourself 908 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,860 into a scenario that has been laid out for all of us, 909 00:54:45,940 --> 00:54:49,070 a nice, set scenario to fit us into the American way of life. 910 00:54:49,150 --> 00:54:51,280 And it says that you must conduct yourselves 911 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,239 in the manner that meets the approval and standards of the people in power. 912 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,110 It's called making it on your own. 913 00:54:58,190 --> 00:55:00,730 ♪ Well, come on, all of you big strong men ♪ 914 00:55:00,820 --> 00:55:02,900 ♪ Uncle Sam needs your help again ♪ 915 00:55:02,980 --> 00:55:05,110 ♪ Got himself in a terrible jam ♪ 916 00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:07,400 ♪ Way down yonder in Viet-nam ♪ 917 00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,559 ♪ Put down your books and pick up a gun ♪ 918 00:55:09,650 --> 00:55:11,610 ♪ We're gonna have a whole lotta fun ♪ 919 00:55:11,690 --> 00:55:15,730 ♪ And it's one, two, three, what are we fighting for? ♪ 920 00:55:15,820 --> 00:55:19,070 Jane: There was so much catching up to do about Vietnam 921 00:55:19,150 --> 00:55:22,070 and about Native Americans 922 00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:24,940 and about what was happening to black people, 923 00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:26,610 the Black Panthers. 924 00:55:26,690 --> 00:55:29,820 How could I have reached the age of 32 925 00:55:29,900 --> 00:55:32,030 in such ignorance? 926 00:55:33,230 --> 00:55:34,610 I felt so guilty, 927 00:55:34,690 --> 00:55:37,110 and I just felt like I had to, kind of, 928 00:55:37,190 --> 00:55:39,860 all of a sudden become an overnight... 929 00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:43,820 righteous activist. 930 00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:46,440 ♪ Well, there ain't no time to wonder why ♪ 931 00:55:46,530 --> 00:55:48,780 ♪ Whoopee, we're all gonna die ♪ 932 00:55:48,860 --> 00:55:50,739 -All right! 933 00:55:50,820 --> 00:55:52,860 Country Joe McDonald: It's generally acknowledged that 934 00:55:52,940 --> 00:55:55,900 new people who join the movement become zealots. 935 00:55:57,570 --> 00:55:59,989 You know, they're like converts, you know. 936 00:56:00,070 --> 00:56:01,320 And I think that Jane is convinced 937 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,320 that she is going to stop the war in Vietnam, 938 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,190 and that she knows what is best 939 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,489 and how to do it. 940 00:56:07,570 --> 00:56:08,650 Jane: I think people felt 941 00:56:08,739 --> 00:56:10,619 very suspicious about my motives. 942 00:56:10,690 --> 00:56:12,570 I would've if I'd been somebody else. 943 00:56:13,570 --> 00:56:17,530 "You are a rich movie star. Why do you care? Why are you... 944 00:56:17,610 --> 00:56:19,030 "involving yourself in this? 945 00:56:19,110 --> 00:56:21,570 And how can I be sure that you're for real?" 946 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,650 I didn't quite know what I was doing, 947 00:56:25,739 --> 00:56:28,699 or how to make proper use of my celebrity. 948 00:56:28,780 --> 00:56:31,530 So much had happened so quickly. 949 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,730 I was alternately bulimic and anorexic. 950 00:56:38,820 --> 00:56:44,739 I would, maybe, eat one soft-boiled egg and spinach a day, period. 951 00:56:45,780 --> 00:56:50,159 I took Dexedrine, which is speed. 952 00:56:51,150 --> 00:56:53,400 So I was really speedy, 953 00:56:53,980 --> 00:56:56,190 and I was starving, 954 00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,030 along with, like, getting all of this new... 955 00:57:00,110 --> 00:57:03,320 information coming in at a very rapid pace. 956 00:57:03,780 --> 00:57:07,989 We here today, together with the multitudes across the country 957 00:57:08,070 --> 00:57:11,530 that are joined together in massive protest, 958 00:57:11,610 --> 00:57:15,980 are showing to Richard Nixon that his advisers... 959 00:57:16,940 --> 00:57:19,400 that the silent majority is dead. 960 00:57:20,820 --> 00:57:23,070 Jane: I mean, I'm high-strung anyway, 961 00:57:23,150 --> 00:57:25,530 but me on Dexedrine, without eating 962 00:57:25,610 --> 00:57:29,280 and feeling like I have to say everything all at once, it's like... 963 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,019 I'm amazed that anybody could receive what I was saying. 964 00:57:34,650 --> 00:57:38,690 It was like, "Wow, who is this woman?" 965 00:57:39,820 --> 00:57:42,900 The winner is Jane Fonda for Klute. 966 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,690 Jane: My head was not in Hollywood. 967 00:57:49,780 --> 00:57:54,280 I didn't think very much about my career anymore. 968 00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:56,320 It wasn't where I was at. 969 00:57:57,860 --> 00:58:02,480 I wasn't some privileged person kind of doling out money 970 00:58:02,570 --> 00:58:04,650 and then going about my life. 971 00:58:04,739 --> 00:58:08,989 It was full-time, on-the-ground activism. 972 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,110 I was on the road all the time. 973 00:58:12,190 --> 00:58:16,230 I was identified with different movements, 974 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,820 and my life was very complicated 975 00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:21,780 and very, very busy, and intense. 976 00:58:21,860 --> 00:58:25,480 I do have a tendency to kind of go full bore, 977 00:58:25,570 --> 00:58:28,400 200 percent, for better or worse. 978 00:58:31,860 --> 00:58:33,900 It felt like a betrayal to Vanessa. 979 00:58:35,900 --> 00:58:38,070 ♪ ♪ 980 00:58:38,570 --> 00:58:41,940 One night, I laid her on a towel on the floor to change her diapers, 981 00:58:42,030 --> 00:58:46,489 and she looked very deep into my eyes, 982 00:58:46,570 --> 00:58:50,400 and I could tell that she was saying, "Where are you? 983 00:58:54,110 --> 00:58:55,820 "Where are you? 984 00:58:55,900 --> 00:58:57,860 "Why don't you show up?" 985 00:58:57,940 --> 00:59:00,940 That's what I felt. 986 00:59:01,030 --> 00:59:02,909 And I had to look away. 987 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,570 Isn't that awful? 988 00:59:08,070 --> 00:59:11,199 I was kinda in over my head. 989 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,820 I desperately needed structure, 990 00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:17,320 I desperately needed guidance, 991 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:18,610 and, uh, 992 00:59:18,690 --> 00:59:21,820 I had always turned to men for that. 993 00:59:23,739 --> 00:59:27,820 Tom Hayden: We must be unified, must be invincible, 994 00:59:27,900 --> 00:59:31,570 must be strong, must find solidarity, 995 00:59:31,650 --> 00:59:34,860 must struggle, must have a program, 996 00:59:34,940 --> 00:59:39,730 and must be the rock on which this attempt to impose fascism is shattered. 997 00:59:41,570 --> 00:59:43,110 ♪ ♪ 998 00:59:45,940 --> 00:59:48,360 Jane: I was downtown at some theater, 999 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,059 and this guy shows up... Tom Hayden. 1000 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:54,860 Hayden: We connected a little bit, 1001 00:59:54,940 --> 00:59:56,690 and, uh, I could tell 1002 00:59:56,780 --> 00:59:59,570 that something was going on between us. 1003 00:59:59,650 --> 01:00:02,400 Jane: He was a movement hero. 1004 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,059 I was extremely intimidated. 1005 01:00:05,150 --> 01:00:07,900 I thought, "Oh, there's just something so impish." 1006 01:00:07,980 --> 01:00:10,769 He had a twinkle in his eye. 1007 01:00:10,860 --> 01:00:14,070 He put his hand on my knee, 1008 01:00:14,150 --> 01:00:19,690 and I felt this electric shock go through my body, 1009 01:00:19,780 --> 01:00:24,570 and I came home, and I said-- I had a roommate at the time, Ruby, and I said to her, 1010 01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:28,070 "I think that I've met the man that I'm gonna marry next." 1011 01:00:28,150 --> 01:00:30,730 ♪ ♪ 1012 01:00:30,820 --> 01:00:35,070 He had been part of the formation of the New Left. 1013 01:00:35,150 --> 01:00:37,070 He had been one of the Chicago 7. 1014 01:00:37,150 --> 01:00:39,820 He was cofounder of SDS. 1015 01:00:41,820 --> 01:00:45,150 I was already an activist when Tom came along. 1016 01:00:45,230 --> 01:00:49,110 But he had such experience, he knew 1017 01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:52,440 how to help me go down that path, 1018 01:00:52,530 --> 01:00:55,360 better and smarter and deeper. 1019 01:00:56,690 --> 01:01:00,230 Hayden: I had been in the peace movement for a long time. 1020 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:04,110 But the first SDS national demonstration, 1021 01:01:04,190 --> 01:01:06,610 the largest in American history, 1022 01:01:06,690 --> 01:01:09,059 was in 1965. 1023 01:01:09,150 --> 01:01:15,440 It was 25,000 people, that would grow by 20-fold in just a few years, 1024 01:01:15,530 --> 01:01:17,820 and Jane was involved in all of that. 1025 01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:22,730 She had a role in helping with the, uh, GI coffee houses 1026 01:01:22,820 --> 01:01:27,449 to share information with the soldiers about their options. 1027 01:01:27,530 --> 01:01:31,489 "Where exactly is Vietnam? What exactly could happen to me?" 1028 01:01:31,570 --> 01:01:34,030 That sort of thing was very real. 1029 01:01:34,110 --> 01:01:37,320 She suggested that she hadn't been thinking, 1030 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,280 and that her recommendation was to think. 1031 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,489 And they did. 1032 01:01:41,570 --> 01:01:43,360 ♪ ♪ 1033 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,360 It spread to campuses, 1034 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,400 where, eventually, many thousands of young men resisted. 1035 01:01:52,190 --> 01:01:54,820 I was drawn by her transformation 1036 01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:58,360 from a Hollywood star to a political star. 1037 01:02:04,230 --> 01:02:07,400 Dick Cavett: It's not often that a movie star also gets involved in anything 1038 01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,809 that might irritate people, and my next guest has certainly taken that chance 1039 01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:13,980 and done it to the hilt. 1040 01:02:14,070 --> 01:02:17,150 She, as I'm sure you know, recently returned from a trip to North Vietnam. 1041 01:02:17,230 --> 01:02:18,860 Will you welcome, please, Jane Fonda. 1042 01:02:22,230 --> 01:02:24,690 You really got pasted this time by the press and others 1043 01:02:24,780 --> 01:02:27,699 when you came back, as you obviously know. 1044 01:02:27,780 --> 01:02:29,989 Would you have done anything differently 1045 01:02:30,070 --> 01:02:32,030 if you had it to do over again? 1046 01:02:32,110 --> 01:02:34,280 ♪ ♪ 1047 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,519 Jane: It's a surreal thing to live through-- 1048 01:02:37,610 --> 01:02:41,780 what I experienced in the two weeks that I was in North Vietnam. 1049 01:02:43,780 --> 01:02:46,070 Flying from Nam Pen to Hanoi, 1050 01:02:46,150 --> 01:02:48,480 I look out the window, and I can see 1051 01:02:48,570 --> 01:02:50,860 American planes bombing. 1052 01:02:51,780 --> 01:02:53,570 Nixon was bringing ground troops home, 1053 01:02:53,650 --> 01:02:55,610 and he was saying that he was ending the war, 1054 01:02:55,690 --> 01:02:57,269 when, in fact, it wasn't ending. 1055 01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,360 It was escalating in terms of bombing of North Vietnam. 1056 01:03:16,690 --> 01:03:20,269 Jane: We began to get communiqués saying, this is really serious. 1057 01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,070 It looks like American planes are targeting 1058 01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:27,570 the dikes of North Vietnam right before the monsoon season. 1059 01:03:27,650 --> 01:03:31,070 If the dikes are weakened and give way, 1060 01:03:31,150 --> 01:03:34,690 a million people could drown or die from starvation. 1061 01:03:36,190 --> 01:03:40,230 I'm always interested, first, in the mechanics of how somebody gets to North Vietnam. 1062 01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,820 A lot of people say, well, you know, "How come you got to go, 1063 01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:47,570 and how do you feel that you have a right to speak about the war?" 1064 01:03:47,650 --> 01:03:49,980 And I have no more right than anyone else, you know? 1065 01:03:50,070 --> 01:03:53,900 Two years ago, I didn't even know where Vietnam was. 1066 01:03:53,980 --> 01:04:00,059 Why on earth would she conceive of the idea of going alone... 1067 01:04:00,150 --> 01:04:02,280 to Hanoi? 1068 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,650 Would she have gone to Berlin 1069 01:04:04,739 --> 01:04:08,570 during the middle of the Anschluss? 1070 01:04:10,030 --> 01:04:14,860 She was, maybe, as some would say, searching for something in herself, 1071 01:04:14,940 --> 01:04:17,980 testing herself. "How brave am I? 1072 01:04:18,070 --> 01:04:21,820 Am I not just a flibbertigibbet on the screen?" 1073 01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:24,980 We might need psychiatry to help us with the answer to this. 1074 01:04:25,070 --> 01:04:27,320 I'm not sure. 1075 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:31,780 It's either brave or foolish, and I think it partook of both. 1076 01:04:32,860 --> 01:04:35,739 ♪ ♪ 1077 01:05:05,780 --> 01:05:08,409 Lesley Stahl: Were you trying to get the soldiers 1078 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,690 to disobey their orders? 1079 01:05:10,780 --> 01:05:12,449 No, I-I... 1080 01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,519 I knew that you cannot ask a soldier to disobey orders. 1081 01:05:16,610 --> 01:05:18,530 You're not the one that pays the consequences. 1082 01:05:18,610 --> 01:05:20,860 Well, you said, this is direct quotes, 1083 01:05:20,940 --> 01:05:23,190 "I beg you to consider what you are doing. 1084 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,320 "The hospitals are filled with babies and women and old people. 1085 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,690 Can you justify what you are doing?" 1086 01:05:29,780 --> 01:05:34,610 Doesn't that sound like you're asking them to stop what they're doing? 1087 01:05:36,030 --> 01:05:38,570 I'm asking them to consider it. 1088 01:05:38,650 --> 01:05:40,150 ♪ ♪ 1089 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:42,650 Cavett: And then, in your trip, you were photographed 1090 01:05:42,739 --> 01:05:46,619 behind an aerial gun of the, uh, North Vietnamese, 1091 01:05:46,690 --> 01:05:50,730 if not the Vietcong, I'm not sure. That seemed a bit tactless. 1092 01:05:50,820 --> 01:05:53,900 What were you doing behind an enemy gun? 1093 01:05:53,980 --> 01:05:57,230 I didn't think, at the time, about how it would be, uh, received. 1094 01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,989 And I can understand why people were very confused by that. 1095 01:06:01,610 --> 01:06:05,230 The soldiers received me there and sang me a song. 1096 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,239 It was very moving to me because they were expressing the same sentiments 1097 01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:10,570 that American GIs expressed to me. 1098 01:06:10,650 --> 01:06:12,690 And I was applauding their song 1099 01:06:12,780 --> 01:06:15,780 and this was what was shown on American television. 1100 01:06:15,860 --> 01:06:17,150 Cavett: Yeah, yeah. 1101 01:06:17,230 --> 01:06:19,519 Well, I wondered how you got there. 1102 01:06:21,690 --> 01:06:24,480 Jane: I'm--I'm naive and I make mistakes, but... 1103 01:06:24,570 --> 01:06:28,239 it was my fault that I sat there. 1104 01:06:29,530 --> 01:06:32,449 The image of Jane Fonda, 1105 01:06:32,530 --> 01:06:33,989 Barbarella, 1106 01:06:34,070 --> 01:06:35,949 Henry Fonda's daughter 1107 01:06:36,030 --> 01:06:41,159 sitting on an enemy aircraft gun was a betrayal. 1108 01:06:41,230 --> 01:06:44,150 It was like I was thumbing my nose at the military 1109 01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:46,150 and at-- at the country 1110 01:06:46,230 --> 01:06:48,769 that gave me privilege. 1111 01:06:48,860 --> 01:06:51,280 ♪ ♪ 1112 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:55,030 As I've said many times, I will go to my grave regretting that. 1113 01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,360 ♪ ♪ 1114 01:06:59,739 --> 01:07:02,110 Hayden: I wasn't there. I might have stopped it. 1115 01:07:02,190 --> 01:07:05,650 I would not have advised it, but you can't stop the media. 1116 01:07:05,739 --> 01:07:10,030 And so you took this picture and of course it went viral. 1117 01:07:11,070 --> 01:07:16,110 I thought it was a problem of the celebrity spotlight, 1118 01:07:16,190 --> 01:07:20,480 when you're used by the media, and blown up by the media, 1119 01:07:20,570 --> 01:07:23,610 you will make a mistake in the media. 1120 01:07:23,690 --> 01:07:24,690 ♪ ♪ 1121 01:07:28,690 --> 01:07:30,940 Newsman: The Justice Department said it is attempting to determine 1122 01:07:31,030 --> 01:07:32,360 whether Ms. Fonda had violated 1123 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,690 sedition, treason or other statutes. 1124 01:07:34,780 --> 01:07:37,820 Howard Smith: Distrust movie actors with causes. 1125 01:07:37,900 --> 01:07:41,320 They live in so rarefied an atmosphere of celebrity 1126 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:45,650 that they have no conception of the ambiguity of right and wrong in real life. 1127 01:07:45,739 --> 01:07:47,449 ♪ ♪ 1128 01:07:48,739 --> 01:07:52,489 Jane: They needed a very visible person 1129 01:07:52,570 --> 01:07:54,860 who represented the peace movement 1130 01:07:54,940 --> 01:07:58,190 to do something really terrible, 1131 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,699 and that was me. 1132 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,980 Man 1: The petition we're circulating asks the Justice Department 1133 01:08:16,069 --> 01:08:19,359 to prosecute Jane Fonda to the fullest extent of the law 1134 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,060 for giving aid and comfort to the enemy. 1135 01:08:22,149 --> 01:08:24,109 Man 2: Jane Fonda's an outrageous liar. 1136 01:08:24,189 --> 01:08:26,229 She's a hypocrite and a liar. 1137 01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:28,779 Man 3: She's the most despicable woman in the United States. 1138 01:08:28,859 --> 01:08:30,899 Man 4: There are other people in films, too, that we don't ask 1139 01:08:30,979 --> 01:08:33,060 for advice, such as Mickey Mouse or Lassie. 1140 01:08:33,149 --> 01:08:35,359 Woman: I don't think she should've done the things that she's done 1141 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,899 and said about our country and come back and lived in the country. 1142 01:08:37,979 --> 01:08:40,859 Fletcher Thompson: I don't care if she's a tender, young female, 1143 01:08:40,939 --> 01:08:44,020 a famous movie star, that is treason. 1144 01:08:44,109 --> 01:08:45,899 It's under active investigation. 1145 01:08:45,979 --> 01:08:48,439 They have not yet made a decision as to whether 1146 01:08:48,529 --> 01:08:50,279 to prosecute or not prosecute. 1147 01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:52,399 Jane: And of course, they found nothing, 1148 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,399 so the charges of treason have been dropped. 1149 01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,729 And they don't understand that I... I came back here because I love America. 1150 01:08:59,819 --> 01:09:02,529 The democratic ideals upon which our country is founded 1151 01:09:02,609 --> 01:09:04,689 is-- are being betrayed. 1152 01:09:05,569 --> 01:09:07,989 -We have an obligation to resist this. -Cavett: I'm sorry, Jane. 1153 01:09:08,069 --> 01:09:11,699 I'm disturbed by your difference between your content and your style. 1154 01:09:12,649 --> 01:09:15,939 Cavett: I've always liked Jane, and I always admired 1155 01:09:16,029 --> 01:09:17,779 her guts, but I worried about her. 1156 01:09:17,859 --> 01:09:23,479 She was, to use the mildest possible word, hated. 1157 01:09:24,689 --> 01:09:27,439 Hayden: I mean, you had people in legislatures arguing 1158 01:09:27,529 --> 01:09:30,659 that she should have her tongue cut out and that she should be hung and so on. 1159 01:09:30,739 --> 01:09:34,279 I think, also, part of it was that she was very effective. 1160 01:09:34,359 --> 01:09:38,069 So, she had to be quickly stereotyped and-- and gotten rid of. 1161 01:09:38,149 --> 01:09:40,069 ♪ ♪ 1162 01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:44,939 It was McCarthyism recycled under Nixon, 1163 01:09:45,029 --> 01:09:47,859 and they just tried to smear her reputation over and over. 1164 01:09:47,939 --> 01:09:50,359 They would have killed her if they could. 1165 01:09:52,109 --> 01:09:56,029 Nixon, of course, had already advocated bombing the dikes. 1166 01:09:56,109 --> 01:09:58,189 One reason he did not 1167 01:09:58,279 --> 01:10:01,989 is that Jane Fonda was brave enough to stand on those dikes 1168 01:10:02,069 --> 01:10:04,699 and denounce what would happen 1169 01:10:04,779 --> 01:10:09,319 to hundred of thousands of peasants if the dikes were bombed. 1170 01:10:09,399 --> 01:10:12,529 She was willing to be attacked over that. 1171 01:10:13,279 --> 01:10:15,319 Abbie Hoffman: I consider Jane Fonda one of the-- 1172 01:10:15,399 --> 01:10:18,649 the most courageous women of our time, probably the most courageous... 1173 01:10:18,739 --> 01:10:21,989 -...she made a conversion from a life that was so sterile 1174 01:10:22,069 --> 01:10:25,029 and easy to live into a life that's filled 1175 01:10:25,109 --> 01:10:29,239 with harassment and ridicule and requires real courage. 1176 01:10:30,779 --> 01:10:34,159 Jane: I'm proud of most of what I did, 1177 01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:37,689 and I'm very sorry for some of what I did. 1178 01:10:37,779 --> 01:10:39,909 ♪ ♪ 1179 01:10:42,899 --> 01:10:47,399 In Hanoi, I had met a number of POWs, and we talked, 1180 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:51,479 about the World Series, primarily, and about some of their experiences. 1181 01:10:51,569 --> 01:10:53,529 ♪ ♪ 1182 01:10:53,609 --> 01:10:55,739 But when the POWs came home, 1183 01:10:55,819 --> 01:11:00,319 certain POWs were handpicked to travel around the country 1184 01:11:00,399 --> 01:11:02,979 talking about torture. 1185 01:11:03,069 --> 01:11:05,739 If Ms. Fonda thinks for a minute 1186 01:11:05,819 --> 01:11:10,029 that any of the people that she saw were able to speak freely, 1187 01:11:10,109 --> 01:11:11,939 she's got another thing coming. 1188 01:11:12,029 --> 01:11:14,739 I think coerced is a very mild word. 1189 01:11:14,819 --> 01:11:17,529 I'd use the word tortured, initially. 1190 01:11:17,609 --> 01:11:19,779 I think they're lying, and I think they're not only going to have to live 1191 01:11:19,859 --> 01:11:23,399 with the fact that they were carrying out acts of murder 1192 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,899 for the rest of their lives, they're also going to have to live with the fact 1193 01:11:26,979 --> 01:11:28,770 that they're lying on their consciousness... 1194 01:11:28,859 --> 01:11:32,029 Jane: Torture of POWs had ended 1195 01:11:32,109 --> 01:11:35,319 in North Vietnam in 1969. 1196 01:11:35,649 --> 01:11:38,109 Three years before I went there. 1197 01:11:38,189 --> 01:11:39,770 Man: This court finds you guilty 1198 01:11:39,859 --> 01:11:42,569 of the crime of high treason against the United States. 1199 01:11:44,529 --> 01:11:47,859 Cavett: Jane gave as good as she got when she was... attacked. 1200 01:11:48,689 --> 01:11:52,439 But Jane had a way of making things worse for herself. 1201 01:11:52,529 --> 01:11:54,449 Never before in the history of warfare 1202 01:11:54,529 --> 01:11:57,449 have prisoners of war come back looking like football players. 1203 01:11:57,529 --> 01:12:01,069 Never in the history of war have men come back and been able 1204 01:12:01,149 --> 01:12:03,609 to come off planes, saluting smartly and hug their wives. 1205 01:12:03,689 --> 01:12:05,439 And we should try to help each other understand 1206 01:12:05,529 --> 01:12:07,909 why these men are being used this way. 1207 01:12:07,979 --> 01:12:11,109 Not do ourselves and them the disservice of making them into heroes. 1208 01:12:11,189 --> 01:12:14,439 Why not the legless and armless vets who have come back to welfare? 1209 01:12:14,529 --> 01:12:17,779 Why not all those men who died over there on the ground-- 1210 01:12:21,529 --> 01:12:23,109 You're a gutless little traitor! 1211 01:12:29,899 --> 01:12:31,109 ♪ ♪ 1212 01:12:31,189 --> 01:12:35,819 Jane: I was so angry that Nixon 1213 01:12:35,899 --> 01:12:39,819 used freeing the POWS and bringing them home 1214 01:12:39,899 --> 01:12:41,649 as a justification 1215 01:12:41,739 --> 01:12:45,739 for continuing the war and carpet-bombing North Vietnam. 1216 01:12:46,689 --> 01:12:50,479 I have no idea what it must be like to be a POW. 1217 01:12:50,569 --> 01:12:54,449 I do know that they were used by the government. 1218 01:12:57,899 --> 01:13:03,109 Jane: It was a very... tumultuous and polarized time. 1219 01:13:04,189 --> 01:13:06,770 There was a lot of anger and blame, 1220 01:13:06,859 --> 01:13:11,149 and for myself, I really, I didn't know 1221 01:13:11,229 --> 01:13:16,979 always how to channel my anger in constructive ways. 1222 01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:22,359 I killed a lot of people, and I live with a lot of nightmares! 1223 01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,520 And then I got shot in this country's war. 1224 01:13:26,609 --> 01:13:28,529 Jane: I heard Ron Kovic speak 1225 01:13:28,609 --> 01:13:31,609 at a very big rally of a couple thousand people. 1226 01:13:32,649 --> 01:13:35,729 He was paralyzed during the Vietnam War, 1227 01:13:35,819 --> 01:13:38,529 and he became an activist with the GI Movement. 1228 01:13:38,609 --> 01:13:43,029 He said, "I've lost my body, yeah, but I've gained my mind." 1229 01:13:43,109 --> 01:13:46,319 And I thought, I could build a movie around that. 1230 01:13:46,399 --> 01:13:48,779 ♪ ♪ 1231 01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,359 ♪ Once I was a soldier ♪ 1232 01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,020 You're a mess. 1233 01:13:54,109 --> 01:13:55,989 ♪ ♪ 1234 01:13:57,649 --> 01:13:59,729 Were you wounded in 'Nam? 1235 01:13:59,819 --> 01:14:01,239 Right. 1236 01:14:01,319 --> 01:14:04,029 When did it happen? 1237 01:14:05,859 --> 01:14:08,689 A long time ago. 1238 01:14:10,359 --> 01:14:12,279 My husband just went over there. 1239 01:14:12,359 --> 01:14:14,239 Poor bastard. 1240 01:14:14,319 --> 01:14:17,109 ♪ Once I was a lover ♪ 1241 01:14:18,359 --> 01:14:22,069 Jane: The studios didn't want to make a film about the war. 1242 01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:26,529 It took six years until we finally could get it made. 1243 01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:33,189 I had been working with returned veterans from Vietnam for several years. 1244 01:14:36,279 --> 01:14:38,449 It was a story about coming home 1245 01:14:38,529 --> 01:14:41,159 after being through what they had been through. 1246 01:14:41,229 --> 01:14:44,729 If it's over with us, it's over! 1247 01:14:46,029 --> 01:14:48,239 Well, what are you saying? That you're not even gonna make the effort? 1248 01:14:48,319 --> 01:14:50,989 : What I'm saying is... 1249 01:14:51,069 --> 01:14:53,609 -I don't belong in this house! -Please-- 1250 01:14:53,689 --> 01:14:56,189 And they're saying that I don't belong over there! 1251 01:14:58,189 --> 01:15:00,399 Luke Martin: You know, you wanna be a part of it and patriotic, 1252 01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,060 and go out and... 1253 01:15:02,149 --> 01:15:06,569 get your licks in at the US of A, and... 1254 01:15:08,979 --> 01:15:12,939 and... when you get over there, 1255 01:15:13,029 --> 01:15:15,569 it's a totally different situation. 1256 01:15:16,689 --> 01:15:18,060 I mean... 1257 01:15:20,279 --> 01:15:22,199 ...you grow up real quick, 1258 01:15:23,399 --> 01:15:25,979 because all you're seeing is, um, 1259 01:15:26,069 --> 01:15:27,949 a lot of death. 1260 01:15:28,029 --> 01:15:29,699 ♪ ♪ 1261 01:15:31,069 --> 01:15:33,489 Jane: There were soldiers who came back feeling 1262 01:15:33,569 --> 01:15:35,569 that they should never have gone. 1263 01:15:38,609 --> 01:15:40,149 There were also men, 1264 01:15:40,229 --> 01:15:42,310 even though they were physically damaged, 1265 01:15:42,399 --> 01:15:46,649 who came back still staunch believers. 1266 01:15:46,739 --> 01:15:48,359 ♪ ♪ 1267 01:15:50,229 --> 01:15:51,479 I feel... 1268 01:15:51,569 --> 01:15:54,359 just as compassionate for them as I do 1269 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:55,979 for the other soldiers. 1270 01:15:56,069 --> 01:15:58,569 ♪ ♪ 1271 01:16:04,109 --> 01:16:06,939 To men who were, in Vietnam, who... 1272 01:16:09,819 --> 01:16:11,859 who I hurt 1273 01:16:11,939 --> 01:16:14,899 or whose pain I caused to-- 1274 01:16:14,979 --> 01:16:18,859 to deepen because of things that I said or I did, uh... 1275 01:16:18,939 --> 01:16:22,229 I-I feel that I owe them an apology. 1276 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,729 My intentions were never to hurt them or make their situation worse. 1277 01:16:27,819 --> 01:16:29,489 It was... It was the contrary. 1278 01:16:29,569 --> 01:16:32,609 I was trying to help end the killing, end the war. 1279 01:16:35,649 --> 01:16:38,029 But there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it, 1280 01:16:38,109 --> 01:16:41,989 and I'm-- and I am... very sorry that I hurt them, 1281 01:16:42,069 --> 01:16:45,489 and I want to apologize to them and to their families. 1282 01:16:49,319 --> 01:16:51,279 ♪ ♪ 1283 01:16:56,649 --> 01:16:59,229 Jane: During the time that it took to make Coming Home, 1284 01:16:59,319 --> 01:17:01,489 I was making other movies. 1285 01:17:02,319 --> 01:17:04,939 But a lot of that time, I was on the road with Tom. 1286 01:17:05,029 --> 01:17:07,199 ♪ ♪ 1287 01:17:09,109 --> 01:17:13,569 Tom said, "We have to go to the grassroots. 1288 01:17:13,649 --> 01:17:17,569 "We have to speak to the silent majority. 1289 01:17:17,649 --> 01:17:19,729 "Let's do a 60-city tour, 1290 01:17:19,819 --> 01:17:23,859 over three months, across the United States." 1291 01:17:23,939 --> 01:17:27,649 And within weeks, we created the Indochina Peace Campaign. 1292 01:17:27,739 --> 01:17:29,989 ♪ ♪ 1293 01:17:31,979 --> 01:17:35,149 We would sleep in people's houses, you know, waterbeds. 1294 01:17:35,229 --> 01:17:38,439 Sometimes, we were both sq-- in a twin bed. 1295 01:17:38,529 --> 01:17:42,949 And it was in a motor home, driving toward Buffalo, 1296 01:17:43,029 --> 01:17:47,529 when I became impregnated with Troy. 1297 01:17:49,029 --> 01:17:52,989 I remember we called Tom's mother, Jean, who lived in Detroit, 1298 01:17:53,069 --> 01:17:56,199 and she said, "You know, you're gonna have to get married." 1299 01:17:57,359 --> 01:17:59,569 We thought that was bourgeois. 1300 01:17:59,649 --> 01:18:02,939 And she said, "You know, what are you gonna do when you go on The Johnny Carson Show 1301 01:18:03,029 --> 01:18:06,159 "and you wanna talk about Vietnam, and they wanna talk about 1302 01:18:06,229 --> 01:18:10,189 "how come you're having a kid and you're not married," and that made sense. 1303 01:18:10,279 --> 01:18:13,449 : I really wanted to get married, to tell you the truth. 1304 01:18:13,529 --> 01:18:16,699 Hayden: We got a gay Episcopal priest, 1305 01:18:16,779 --> 01:18:21,489 who I think was thrown out of the order for having married us, 1306 01:18:21,569 --> 01:18:24,359 and, uh, life went on. 1307 01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,729 ♪ ♪ 1308 01:18:29,569 --> 01:18:31,989 Jane: With Troy, we didn't want him to have 1309 01:18:32,069 --> 01:18:35,199 his father's name just automatically, or Fonda. 1310 01:18:35,279 --> 01:18:38,529 You know, we wanted him to have a name that didn't have so much baggage. 1311 01:18:38,609 --> 01:18:43,399 So we named him Troy O'Donovan Garity. 1312 01:18:45,069 --> 01:18:48,319 Troy Garity: My parents made a conscious decision to... 1313 01:18:48,399 --> 01:18:52,979 try to live as... normally as possible. 1314 01:18:54,279 --> 01:18:57,659 I know that that sounds insane because they are abnormal. 1315 01:18:57,739 --> 01:19:00,739 -Ah! The winner is Jane Fonda in Coming Home ! 1316 01:19:03,819 --> 01:19:07,359 Garity: We went to the Oscars in a station wagon. 1317 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:10,189 My father wore like a-- the ugliest suit in the world. 1318 01:19:10,279 --> 01:19:14,659 I wore a T-shirt with a hand-screened tuxedo thing on it. 1319 01:19:16,319 --> 01:19:19,489 It wasn't a normal family unit. 1320 01:19:19,569 --> 01:19:23,699 Like we weren't, you know, vacationing in tropical paradises. 1321 01:19:23,779 --> 01:19:26,659 You know, we holidayed in conflict zones. 1322 01:19:27,979 --> 01:19:30,020 I was potty-trained 1323 01:19:30,109 --> 01:19:31,989 in a Vietnam bomb shelter. 1324 01:19:33,319 --> 01:19:35,149 I just got dragged with them. 1325 01:19:36,189 --> 01:19:41,399 Being in an IRA, you know, stronghold in Belfast, 1326 01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:44,560 and a boy comes in with his thumb blown off, 1327 01:19:44,649 --> 01:19:48,729 and my father dips the rag in his blood and's like, "This is your blood. 1328 01:19:48,819 --> 01:19:51,569 This is your fucking blood. This is your people." 1329 01:19:51,649 --> 01:19:53,069 I'm five. 1330 01:19:53,149 --> 01:19:54,859 ♪ ♪ 1331 01:19:54,939 --> 01:19:57,189 My first 13 birthday parties were fundraisers. 1332 01:19:57,279 --> 01:20:01,279 Anything that represented, like, wealth or establishment 1333 01:20:01,359 --> 01:20:04,399 was looked on with a lot of skepticism. 1334 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:06,899 "If my coworker can't have a pool, 1335 01:20:06,979 --> 01:20:08,899 "then I'm not having a fucking pool. 1336 01:20:08,979 --> 01:20:12,520 I'd rather take that money give it to the United Farm Workers Fund." 1337 01:20:14,399 --> 01:20:17,569 You know, the house I was raised in, there was another family living... 1338 01:20:17,649 --> 01:20:19,319 in the house with us. 1339 01:20:19,399 --> 01:20:22,319 Uh, at times, we had organizers sleeping on the porch. 1340 01:20:22,399 --> 01:20:24,609 There was a homeless person that slept under the house. 1341 01:20:24,689 --> 01:20:27,729 I would come home sometimes and he would be dressed in... 1342 01:20:27,819 --> 01:20:29,939 in my parents' clothes. Yeah. 1343 01:20:30,029 --> 01:20:32,989 Jane: They were one house right next to the other. 1344 01:20:33,069 --> 01:20:37,529 Nightwatchman on one side and a Marxist writer on the other. 1345 01:20:38,399 --> 01:20:42,359 And we lived in this house that was-- my dad called it a shack. 1346 01:20:43,359 --> 01:20:45,779 We had furniture from Salvation Army. 1347 01:20:45,859 --> 01:20:49,029 We had no dishwasher, we had no washing machine. 1348 01:20:50,029 --> 01:20:52,159 It was... 1349 01:20:53,399 --> 01:20:56,779 I was very happy, and I was very proud of myself. 1350 01:21:00,069 --> 01:21:03,609 I wanted to show Tom that I could do it. 1351 01:21:03,689 --> 01:21:07,399 I didn't want him to think that I was... spoiled. 1352 01:21:08,739 --> 01:21:10,989 Hayden: We were intensely in love, 1353 01:21:11,069 --> 01:21:13,859 pursuing common life goals. 1354 01:21:14,779 --> 01:21:19,409 The neighborhood was swollen with activists, of all kinds. 1355 01:21:20,739 --> 01:21:25,819 Paula Weinstein: It was a really, tiny, little version of-- of a commune. 1356 01:21:25,899 --> 01:21:27,649 I would be invited all the time to come 1357 01:21:27,739 --> 01:21:29,529 for dinner and there was no dinner. 1358 01:21:29,609 --> 01:21:32,529 And I was like, "I don't understand, what happened to dinner?" 1359 01:21:32,609 --> 01:21:35,229 It was espresso. Jane's not a cook. 1360 01:21:36,779 --> 01:21:39,359 We would get in our little Volkswagen Bug, 1361 01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,569 and go to the local pizzeria and... 1362 01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,689 it was wonderful. 1363 01:21:44,779 --> 01:21:46,699 But when you combine 1364 01:21:46,779 --> 01:21:49,029 the fever of celebrity 1365 01:21:49,109 --> 01:21:52,029 with the furor of... 1366 01:21:52,109 --> 01:21:55,529 anti-war, um, activities, 1367 01:21:55,609 --> 01:22:00,399 um, there was a lot of heat around our home. 1368 01:22:03,109 --> 01:22:06,069 Jane: I will never forget the day that we came home, 1369 01:22:06,149 --> 01:22:07,899 there wasn't a drawer in the house 1370 01:22:07,979 --> 01:22:10,060 that wasn't pulled out and turned over. 1371 01:22:10,149 --> 01:22:12,649 Everything was torn out of the closets. 1372 01:22:12,739 --> 01:22:14,699 Papers were rifled, desks were open. 1373 01:22:14,779 --> 01:22:17,239 I mean, someone had gone through our house. 1374 01:22:17,319 --> 01:22:21,399 And it was done so blatantly, and mess-- 1375 01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:25,439 I mean, I knew that it was... to scare us. 1376 01:22:25,529 --> 01:22:27,319 ♪ ♪ 1377 01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:31,939 I was aware that I was being followed, 1378 01:22:32,029 --> 01:22:34,909 and there was very little attempt to disguise it. 1379 01:22:34,979 --> 01:22:39,479 There would be these guys in trench coats with dark glasses. 1380 01:22:41,529 --> 01:22:44,779 The FBI would follow Vanessa to school. 1381 01:22:44,859 --> 01:22:48,069 The more I saw them the more my attitude was, 1382 01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:49,899 "You think I'm gonna back down?" 1383 01:22:49,979 --> 01:22:51,560 I mean, that's one thing, you know, 1384 01:22:51,649 --> 01:22:53,529 every time people think they're gonna scare me, 1385 01:22:53,609 --> 01:22:55,689 then that's the wrong way to approach it. 1386 01:22:55,779 --> 01:22:57,739 Because, no. 1387 01:22:57,819 --> 01:23:00,029 ♪ ♪ 1388 01:23:01,899 --> 01:23:07,189 I saw, with Tom, what it meant to build a movement, 1389 01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:10,979 what organizing meant. 1390 01:23:13,149 --> 01:23:16,479 He realized that what needed to be focused on 1391 01:23:16,569 --> 01:23:20,899 was moving power out of the hands of the super rich and the corporations, 1392 01:23:20,979 --> 01:23:25,439 into the hands of people, the way it should be in a democracy. 1393 01:23:25,529 --> 01:23:30,239 So, the Campaign for Economic Democracy evolved. 1394 01:23:30,319 --> 01:23:35,319 We knew that we wanted to spread a message throughout the country. 1395 01:23:36,529 --> 01:23:39,409 It was difficult because we had to raise so much money, 1396 01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:42,060 and it was during a recession. 1397 01:23:43,569 --> 01:23:47,649 So Tom and I talked about this and we thought, "Well, let's start a business 1398 01:23:47,739 --> 01:23:49,989 that will fund the work." 1399 01:23:50,069 --> 01:23:53,489 We talked about... "Maybe a restaurant." 1400 01:23:53,569 --> 01:23:56,149 That would have been a disaster. 1401 01:23:56,229 --> 01:23:59,770 Then we thought, "Maybe a car wash that doesn't rip people off." 1402 01:23:59,859 --> 01:24:03,439 Well, that-- You know, I mean, we had no idea. 1403 01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:09,020 And then one day, I suddenly thought... 1404 01:24:09,109 --> 01:24:10,939 "The Workout. 1405 01:24:11,029 --> 01:24:14,699 If there's one thing I understand, it's working out." 1406 01:24:17,609 --> 01:24:19,979 Jane: One camera. 1407 01:24:20,069 --> 01:24:22,489 There were no teleprompters or anything like that. 1408 01:24:22,569 --> 01:24:25,239 I wrote the script sitting on a floor of a hotel room. 1409 01:24:25,319 --> 01:24:27,489 We did our own hair and makeup. 1410 01:24:27,569 --> 01:24:30,069 I mean, it was a spit and a prayer. 1411 01:24:30,149 --> 01:24:32,729 And the rest is history. 1412 01:24:32,819 --> 01:24:34,279 ♪ ♪ 1413 01:24:35,939 --> 01:24:39,520 That video came out, and almost overnight 1414 01:24:39,609 --> 01:24:43,069 became and remains the number one home video of all-time. 1415 01:24:44,649 --> 01:24:46,399 Are you ready to do the workout? 1416 01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:50,189 And it was owned by the Campaign for Economic Democracy. 1417 01:24:50,279 --> 01:24:52,699 The organization owned it, not me, 1418 01:24:52,779 --> 01:24:55,069 and all the profits went into the organization. 1419 01:24:55,149 --> 01:24:58,189 Right, two. And back, two. 1420 01:24:58,279 --> 01:25:01,529 It sold 17 million copies. 1421 01:25:01,609 --> 01:25:04,739 A video industry developed, because everyone wanted 1422 01:25:04,819 --> 01:25:08,449 to buy my video and use it over and over and over. 1423 01:25:08,529 --> 01:25:11,409 I'm the first non-engineer 1424 01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:14,729 to be inducted into the Video Hall of Fame. 1425 01:25:14,819 --> 01:25:17,779 You know, they credited me for building the video industry. 1426 01:25:18,979 --> 01:25:21,399 It was a pretty interesting time for me 1427 01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,439 because people recognized me in a whole different way. 1428 01:25:25,529 --> 01:25:30,319 Women would come up to me and say, you know, "I don't need sleeping pills anymore." 1429 01:25:30,979 --> 01:25:36,359 Another one would talk about how she felt different, she felt stronger. 1430 01:25:37,859 --> 01:25:41,069 It's funny, when I thought about it, that was true for me. 1431 01:25:41,149 --> 01:25:45,029 You know, I had suffered from an eating disorder for a long time. 1432 01:25:46,569 --> 01:25:49,739 Nobody knew. You know, one of the things about bulimia 1433 01:25:49,819 --> 01:25:52,529 is that it's a... it's a disease of denial. 1434 01:25:53,399 --> 01:25:55,779 You know, it takes a lot of subterfuge. 1435 01:25:55,859 --> 01:25:57,609 ♪ ♪ 1436 01:25:57,689 --> 01:26:01,109 You're very tired, and you're very angry, 1437 01:26:01,189 --> 01:26:03,770 and you're very self-hating. 1438 01:26:03,859 --> 01:26:05,739 And I realized, 1439 01:26:05,819 --> 01:26:08,239 I'm heading into a really dark place, 1440 01:26:08,319 --> 01:26:10,939 and I'm-- I either am gonna head to the light 1441 01:26:11,029 --> 01:26:13,069 or I'm gonna succumb to the dark, 1442 01:26:13,149 --> 01:26:14,569 and it's a life or death thing. 1443 01:26:14,649 --> 01:26:15,899 ♪ ♪ 1444 01:26:15,979 --> 01:26:18,149 I went cold turkey. 1445 01:26:18,229 --> 01:26:21,310 It was really, really hard. 1446 01:26:22,399 --> 01:26:26,069 There was something about taking control of my body, in that way, 1447 01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:28,649 that got me over the addiction. 1448 01:26:28,739 --> 01:26:30,949 It changed my perception of myself. 1449 01:26:32,939 --> 01:26:35,819 I think it was Thomas Jefferson who said, 1450 01:26:35,899 --> 01:26:39,529 "Revolution begins in the muscles." 1451 01:26:39,609 --> 01:26:41,649 ♪ ♪ 1452 01:26:41,739 --> 01:26:44,529 And it was a revolution for me, 1453 01:26:44,609 --> 01:26:47,609 but it was completely unintentional, 1454 01:26:47,689 --> 01:26:51,609 you know, I did the workout to fund the organization. 1455 01:26:52,739 --> 01:26:55,069 It was for Tom. 1456 01:26:55,779 --> 01:26:59,319 Weinstein: They formed a team around politics, 1457 01:26:59,399 --> 01:27:02,319 and around the children. 1458 01:27:02,399 --> 01:27:05,319 But she didn't have as much confidence 1459 01:27:05,399 --> 01:27:08,359 as I think she should've in those days, 1460 01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:14,609 And Tom is so compelling that he's a hard force to argue with. 1461 01:27:15,979 --> 01:27:19,020 Jane: You know, here is a man who was considered an intellectual, 1462 01:27:19,109 --> 01:27:21,819 he was considered a star in the movement, 1463 01:27:21,899 --> 01:27:24,399 and he'd written-- I don't remember how many books he'd written. 1464 01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:28,649 And then I write Jane Fonda's Workout Book, 1465 01:27:28,739 --> 01:27:32,529 and it becomes the number one on the New York Times for two years. 1466 01:27:32,609 --> 01:27:37,189 Two solid years. 1467 01:27:37,279 --> 01:27:40,199 The Workout Book ? 1468 01:27:40,279 --> 01:27:43,909 I mean, if I was him, I would have had a certain degree of resentment. 1469 01:27:43,979 --> 01:27:45,520 ♪ ♪ 1470 01:27:45,609 --> 01:27:49,359 He thought I was superficial. 1471 01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,439 That I wasn't smart enough. 1472 01:27:53,609 --> 01:27:56,109 But I was producing my own movies, 1473 01:27:56,189 --> 01:28:00,729 the kind of movies that say the things that I think need saying. 1474 01:28:00,819 --> 01:28:02,449 Hello, this is Kimberly Wells, 1475 01:28:02,529 --> 01:28:04,779 and I'm here at the Ventana Nuclear Power Plant, 1476 01:28:04,859 --> 01:28:07,569 owned and operated by California Gas & Electric. 1477 01:28:07,649 --> 01:28:09,569 Jane: China Syndrome was the story 1478 01:28:09,649 --> 01:28:12,229 of a cover-up at a nuclear power plant. 1479 01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,899 This is Jack Godell. We have a serious condition. 1480 01:28:18,979 --> 01:28:22,689 You get everybody into safety areas and make sure that they stay there. 1481 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,729 -Radiation in containment! 1482 01:28:25,819 --> 01:28:28,449 Jane: We were very much attacked for, 1483 01:28:28,529 --> 01:28:30,569 for making it, the movie. 1484 01:28:30,649 --> 01:28:34,229 But then, the movie came out and two weeks later, Three Mile Island happened. 1485 01:28:34,319 --> 01:28:36,819 Man : All pregnant women and preschool children 1486 01:28:36,899 --> 01:28:40,279 should evacuate out of a five-mile radius... 1487 01:28:40,359 --> 01:28:43,149 Newswoman: The China Syndrome has given Jane Fonda a new standing 1488 01:28:43,229 --> 01:28:44,609 in American society. 1489 01:28:44,689 --> 01:28:46,770 She's now a heroine in her own right. 1490 01:28:46,859 --> 01:28:49,649 She's the Cassandra of the Nuclear Holocaust. 1491 01:28:50,399 --> 01:28:53,319 Jane: It's shocking that people from this area 1492 01:28:53,399 --> 01:28:55,279 had to go to see The China Syndrome 1493 01:28:55,359 --> 01:28:57,989 in order to try to understand what was happening to them. 1494 01:28:58,739 --> 01:29:03,739 Redford: Jane has always had an impulse to go right for the heart of things. 1495 01:29:03,819 --> 01:29:07,779 We were aligned in the same way that things were not right. 1496 01:29:07,859 --> 01:29:11,739 The question was how we were gonna go about it, 1497 01:29:11,819 --> 01:29:14,359 and I felt, if I spoke out, 1498 01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,439 that there would be a lot of resentment. 1499 01:29:18,319 --> 01:29:20,319 That didn't mean you couldn't do it that way, and that's the choice that Jane made. 1500 01:29:20,399 --> 01:29:22,979 And it had a lot of strength and a lot of power to it. 1501 01:29:23,069 --> 01:29:25,819 She made a lot of enemies, but that's gonna happen 1502 01:29:25,899 --> 01:29:29,029 when you step up and speak on the national stage. 1503 01:29:30,859 --> 01:29:34,979 What I admire about her is that she did it and she didn't look back, 1504 01:29:35,069 --> 01:29:37,359 she didn't change her tone or her voice. 1505 01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,479 She said, "This is what I believe, 1506 01:29:39,569 --> 01:29:41,609 "this is what I feel, and this is what I'm gonna say." 1507 01:29:41,689 --> 01:29:43,979 ♪ Tumble outta bed and stumble to the kitchen ♪ 1508 01:29:44,069 --> 01:29:46,489 ♪ Pour myself a cup of ambition ♪ 1509 01:29:46,569 --> 01:29:49,189 ♪ And yawn and stretch and try to come to life ♪ 1510 01:29:49,279 --> 01:29:51,489 Jane: Forty million women work in offices, 1511 01:29:51,569 --> 01:29:54,489 and for the first time in history, they're beginning to organize, 1512 01:29:54,569 --> 01:30:00,029 they're beginning to say, "We deserve respect, we deserve equal pay for equal work." 1513 01:30:00,109 --> 01:30:03,529 ♪ Workin' 9 to 5 What a way... ♪ 1514 01:30:03,609 --> 01:30:05,739 Lily Tomlin: Jane is always looking for 1515 01:30:05,819 --> 01:30:09,649 what's the most important current issue to deal with, 1516 01:30:09,739 --> 01:30:12,529 and 9 to 5 was her invention. 1517 01:30:12,609 --> 01:30:15,859 She decided to do a movie about the 9-to-5 women. 1518 01:30:15,939 --> 01:30:19,520 Well, look, couldn't we just all get together and... and complain? 1519 01:30:19,609 --> 01:30:21,149 Complain to who? 1520 01:30:21,229 --> 01:30:23,979 Let's face it, we are in a pink-collared ghetto. 1521 01:30:24,069 --> 01:30:25,859 Let's have another drink. 1522 01:30:25,939 --> 01:30:28,399 Jane: We all knew we were doing something that was important 1523 01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:30,899 for women office workers, 1524 01:30:30,979 --> 01:30:32,399 because we dealt with all the issues: 1525 01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:34,859 sexual harassment, unequal pay... 1526 01:30:34,939 --> 01:30:37,229 ♪ ♪ 1527 01:30:37,319 --> 01:30:39,029 ...the importance of flex hours, 1528 01:30:39,109 --> 01:30:42,069 the importance of childcare, all these things. 1529 01:30:42,149 --> 01:30:43,479 ♪ ♪ 1530 01:30:45,529 --> 01:30:48,029 Garity: My mom was using film 1531 01:30:48,109 --> 01:30:53,529 as a platform to try to affect change. 1532 01:30:55,529 --> 01:30:57,569 My parents were really doing it. 1533 01:30:57,649 --> 01:30:59,899 They were boots-on-the-ground, 1534 01:30:59,979 --> 01:31:03,109 dedicated mission, "We're going forward." 1535 01:31:03,189 --> 01:31:06,020 That's where their heads were at. 1536 01:31:06,109 --> 01:31:09,239 My parents walked the walk, for sure. 1537 01:31:09,319 --> 01:31:11,649 ♪ ♪ 1538 01:31:19,029 --> 01:31:24,069 They bought these hundred acres on top of this mountain in Santa Barbara 1539 01:31:24,149 --> 01:31:27,279 and started a summer camp. 1540 01:31:27,359 --> 01:31:29,939 I mean, it was every walk of life. 1541 01:31:30,029 --> 01:31:33,819 Children of farm workers, the children of the heads of studios, 1542 01:31:33,899 --> 01:31:36,649 the children of Black Panthers. 1543 01:31:38,739 --> 01:31:41,279 Weinstein: Laurel Springs was really a fantasy 1544 01:31:41,359 --> 01:31:44,069 that they, together, made a reality. 1545 01:31:44,149 --> 01:31:46,479 If you're a true movement person, 1546 01:31:46,569 --> 01:31:50,109 you understand about passing it along, 1547 01:31:50,189 --> 01:31:55,109 and watering the fields, and making the seeds grow. 1548 01:31:55,189 --> 01:31:57,939 Garity: We were all on this mountaintop together 1549 01:31:58,029 --> 01:32:00,609 and we were forced to coexist. 1550 01:32:00,689 --> 01:32:04,520 And it was at Laurel Springs that I met Lulu. 1551 01:32:07,529 --> 01:32:11,989 Jane: Lulu, when she first came to camp, she was maybe 12. 1552 01:32:12,069 --> 01:32:15,649 And she was... giggly, and bright, and... 1553 01:32:15,739 --> 01:32:20,029 funny, with this wonderful laugh and everyone just adored her. 1554 01:32:20,109 --> 01:32:24,279 She came two summers, and then she disappeared. 1555 01:32:25,859 --> 01:32:29,899 And when she came back, she was a different person. 1556 01:32:31,069 --> 01:32:36,149 She had been sexually abused repeatedly by an acting coach. 1557 01:32:36,229 --> 01:32:38,479 She was shut down. 1558 01:32:38,569 --> 01:32:43,069 Her life was dysfunctional, disorganized. 1559 01:32:43,149 --> 01:32:46,899 Her parents had been Black Panthers. Her father was in jail. 1560 01:32:46,979 --> 01:32:49,979 She was failing in school. 1561 01:32:50,069 --> 01:32:55,239 It was like the flame had gotten real tiny, but it was still there, you could see. 1562 01:32:55,319 --> 01:32:58,699 And I said, "I'll tell you what, Lulu, 1563 01:32:58,779 --> 01:33:02,989 "if you bring your grades up to a B, 1564 01:33:03,069 --> 01:33:07,399 "I'll bring you to Los Angeles, to Santa Monica, where we live, 1565 01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:13,149 "and... you can live with us and go to school down there, 1566 01:33:13,229 --> 01:33:15,149 if your mother lets that happen." 1567 01:33:15,229 --> 01:33:17,399 And that's what happened. 1568 01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,359 Lulu Williams: She didn't even say, "I want to adopt you or I want you to be 1569 01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:21,649 my daughter." It was just-- it just kinda evolved into that, 1570 01:33:21,739 --> 01:33:24,699 'cause it really just was "I want to help this child." 1571 01:33:24,779 --> 01:33:28,909 So when I came, I just started living in their house, and then it became, you know, 1572 01:33:28,979 --> 01:33:31,229 I was just another kid in the house. 1573 01:33:31,319 --> 01:33:34,189 ♪ ♪ 1574 01:33:35,529 --> 01:33:39,569 Garity: It all goes back to my mother's childhood. 1575 01:33:39,649 --> 01:33:43,779 I think her light was almost put out... 1576 01:33:43,859 --> 01:33:45,689 when she was a child. 1577 01:33:47,149 --> 01:33:53,229 So, I think she likes to find people who are in danger of losing theirs, and re-- and... 1578 01:33:53,319 --> 01:33:55,529 and rekindle it. 1579 01:33:58,279 --> 01:34:03,659 No, my mom was... not orphaned, but pretty damn close. 1580 01:34:12,359 --> 01:34:15,779 Jane: I had always wanted to do a movie with my dad, 1581 01:34:15,859 --> 01:34:20,069 and this play seemed like a perfect thing. 1582 01:34:21,979 --> 01:34:23,899 Garity: She bought On Golden Pond for them, 1583 01:34:23,979 --> 01:34:27,229 she produced it, she made it for him, 1584 01:34:27,319 --> 01:34:33,189 to... have a deeper shared experience with him, before they couldn't anymore. 1585 01:34:34,229 --> 01:34:38,270 Hayden: It was about the reconciliation of a hard dad, 1586 01:34:38,359 --> 01:34:41,109 and a emotional daughter. 1587 01:34:41,189 --> 01:34:46,229 It was more than a script, it was an opportunity for love and reconciliation. 1588 01:34:52,029 --> 01:34:53,909 Hello, Norman. 1589 01:34:57,569 --> 01:35:00,149 -Oh, look at you. -Happy birthday. 1590 01:35:00,229 --> 01:35:03,770 Look at this little fat girl, Ethel. 1591 01:35:03,859 --> 01:35:05,649 Oh, Norman! 1592 01:35:05,739 --> 01:35:09,489 -You're as thin as a rail. Isn't she? -Sure... 1593 01:35:09,569 --> 01:35:12,649 Jane: Katherine Hepburn and my father played my parents, 1594 01:35:12,739 --> 01:35:16,319 and I was extremely intimidated. 1595 01:35:16,399 --> 01:35:21,479 The parallels were very, very close between the characters, and-- and... 1596 01:35:21,569 --> 01:35:23,939 my father and I in real life. 1597 01:35:24,029 --> 01:35:26,989 But we never spoke of it. 1598 01:35:27,069 --> 01:35:31,529 We never spoke about anything like that, ever. 1599 01:35:31,609 --> 01:35:35,649 Hayden: There was a great deal of invisible healing going on. 1600 01:35:35,739 --> 01:35:39,659 For Jane, it was the ultimate catharsis. 1601 01:35:41,609 --> 01:35:45,149 Jane: In the movie, the main scene between Chelsea and her father 1602 01:35:45,229 --> 01:35:50,359 was a scene that, whenever I would read it and during every single rehearsal, 1603 01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:53,520 I would become very, very, very emotional, 1604 01:35:53,609 --> 01:35:56,739 because it was so very close to home. 1605 01:35:58,069 --> 01:36:00,779 I wanna talk to you. I, um... 1606 01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:04,979 I think that, um, 1607 01:36:05,069 --> 01:36:08,149 maybe you and I should have the kind of relationship that we're supposed to have. 1608 01:36:09,109 --> 01:36:10,489 What kind of a relationship is that? 1609 01:36:12,149 --> 01:36:15,439 Well, you know, like a... like a father and a daughter. 1610 01:36:15,529 --> 01:36:18,739 Eh, just in the nick of time, huh? 1611 01:36:18,819 --> 01:36:20,029 Worried about the will, are you? 1612 01:36:20,109 --> 01:36:21,069 Well, I'm leaving everything to you, 1613 01:36:21,149 --> 01:36:22,569 except what I'm taking with me. 1614 01:36:22,649 --> 01:36:25,529 Just stop it. 1615 01:36:25,609 --> 01:36:28,069 I don't want anything. 1616 01:36:28,149 --> 01:36:32,229 It just-- it seems that you and me have been mad at each other for so long. 1617 01:36:32,319 --> 01:36:35,859 I didn't know we were mad. I thought we just didn't like each other 1618 01:36:35,939 --> 01:36:39,359 Jane: Knowing that my father doesn't like 1619 01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:42,899 to have anything that's not rehearsed, 1620 01:36:42,979 --> 01:36:46,359 everything has to be rehearsed down to the nth degree, 1621 01:36:46,439 --> 01:36:53,109 I decide to save one thing that I'm gonna do when I think it's his last close-up, 1622 01:36:53,189 --> 01:36:55,770 because I want him... 1623 01:36:55,859 --> 01:36:59,279 to do something unplanned. I don't know what it-- how he would react, 1624 01:36:59,359 --> 01:37:01,569 but it will be emotional. 1625 01:37:01,649 --> 01:37:03,569 I-- I wanna be your friend. 1626 01:37:03,649 --> 01:37:06,609 Jane: I reached out and I touched his arm. 1627 01:37:06,689 --> 01:37:09,979 Does this mean you'll... come around more often? 1628 01:37:10,069 --> 01:37:12,319 It'd mean a lot to your mother. 1629 01:37:12,399 --> 01:37:14,029 And he put his hand up, 1630 01:37:14,689 --> 01:37:17,359 but I saw... 1631 01:37:18,319 --> 01:37:21,529 the tears in his eyes... 1632 01:37:23,689 --> 01:37:27,479 and, you know, it just-- it meant the world to me. 1633 01:37:28,569 --> 01:37:34,109 Hayden: He loved her. That he couldn't express it in three words 1634 01:37:34,189 --> 01:37:35,819 is a kind of tragedy. 1635 01:37:35,899 --> 01:37:41,529 But in his eyes and in his face, he still expressed it. 1636 01:37:42,779 --> 01:37:46,489 And the winner is... Henry Fonda, On Golden Pond. 1637 01:37:56,439 --> 01:38:01,939 Oh, Dad, I'm so happy, and proud, for you. 1638 01:38:06,939 --> 01:38:11,149 Garity: On Golden Pond isn't a movie. It's a vehicle to try to make 1639 01:38:11,229 --> 01:38:13,770 her family closer. 1640 01:38:13,859 --> 01:38:19,569 Perhaps because she felt other parts of her family... were in limbo. 1641 01:38:19,649 --> 01:38:21,649 ♪ ♪ 1642 01:38:21,739 --> 01:38:25,869 You know, my sister definitely had a harder time 1643 01:38:25,939 --> 01:38:29,189 relating with my mother than I have. 1644 01:38:29,279 --> 01:38:32,239 Hayden: I remember coming back from the hospital, 1645 01:38:32,319 --> 01:38:34,529 with newborn Troy, 1646 01:38:34,609 --> 01:38:38,609 and Vanessa, happily staring at him. 1647 01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:43,319 But it was also apparent that he was the different one. 1648 01:38:43,939 --> 01:38:46,319 He was the prince. 1649 01:38:47,779 --> 01:38:50,199 Jane: Vanessa saw me 1650 01:38:50,279 --> 01:38:56,909 taking Troy with me, as I had not taken her. 1651 01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:02,189 And she saw me living with Troy's father... 1652 01:39:03,939 --> 01:39:09,899 which was not her situation. And I can't imagine that it wasn't difficult for her. 1653 01:39:09,979 --> 01:39:15,020 Weinstein: The thing about Jane is, she had to learn how to be a mother... 1654 01:39:17,529 --> 01:39:21,239 because that isn't what she experienced. She experienced, 1655 01:39:21,319 --> 01:39:23,699 "Come down and say good night to the guests, 1656 01:39:23,779 --> 01:39:26,109 and go back upstairs and be your perfect little selves." 1657 01:39:26,189 --> 01:39:29,899 And even thought her mother was loving, she was clearly sad. 1658 01:39:29,979 --> 01:39:33,729 She must've, as a child, really felt that sadness, 1659 01:39:33,819 --> 01:39:39,399 you know, it had its effect. She's not a natural caretaker. 1660 01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:43,520 She had no training for emotional intelligence, at all. 1661 01:39:45,149 --> 01:39:47,439 Garity: My mother didn't have a good example of what 1662 01:39:47,529 --> 01:39:50,569 a healthy relationship looked like, 1663 01:39:50,649 --> 01:39:52,779 neither did my father. 1664 01:39:52,859 --> 01:39:56,479 Jane: Neither one of us were big on talking about our feelings. 1665 01:39:56,569 --> 01:40:03,569 Our lives became more and more like... on two separate tracks. 1666 01:40:04,979 --> 01:40:06,310 Tom once said, 1667 01:40:06,399 --> 01:40:08,399 "If Jane and I find ourselves together, 1668 01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:10,560 it was a mistake in scheduling." 1669 01:40:11,689 --> 01:40:16,060 I think that in the end, neither one of us were happy. 1670 01:40:17,149 --> 01:40:19,439 Hayden: Living with a public figure, 1671 01:40:19,529 --> 01:40:21,109 who has, uh, 1672 01:40:21,189 --> 01:40:23,649 movie studios and-- and public relations firms working 1673 01:40:23,739 --> 01:40:26,869 night and day to make her larger than life, uh, 1674 01:40:26,939 --> 01:40:30,689 it is-- it becomes artificial. The house becomes a prop, 1675 01:40:30,779 --> 01:40:33,529 suddenly, uh, the bedroom could become a prop, 1676 01:40:33,609 --> 01:40:35,439 the children are props. 1677 01:40:35,529 --> 01:40:36,449 Where's life? 1678 01:40:39,529 --> 01:40:42,159 She felt the call of Hollywood. 1679 01:40:42,229 --> 01:40:45,520 That was very jarring to me. 1680 01:40:47,609 --> 01:40:50,399 I was drinking and womanizing. 1681 01:40:52,069 --> 01:40:54,989 I wasn't ready to be the husband of somebody 1682 01:40:55,069 --> 01:40:59,399 that was preoccupied with being an actress. 1683 01:41:01,069 --> 01:41:03,819 Weinstein: He was very rough on her. 1684 01:41:03,899 --> 01:41:06,859 I think she was very lonely. 1685 01:41:06,939 --> 01:41:10,859 It was a vulnerability she couldn't allow in and I think a truth she couldn't allow in. 1686 01:41:10,939 --> 01:41:15,479 So I think she would've gone on accepting that. 1687 01:41:17,779 --> 01:41:20,659 He fell in love with somebody... 1688 01:41:22,939 --> 01:41:27,149 um... and I found out. 1689 01:41:27,229 --> 01:41:29,770 ♪ ♪ 1690 01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:35,189 It did knock the foundation out from under me because... 1691 01:41:35,279 --> 01:41:39,279 I just never could have imagined life without Tom. 1692 01:41:40,779 --> 01:41:45,449 If I'm not with Tom Hayden, then I'm nobody. 1693 01:41:47,359 --> 01:41:51,899 Weinstein: Here she was alone at a critical moment for an actress. 1694 01:41:51,979 --> 01:41:54,609 when you're still beautiful, and sexy, and everything, 1695 01:41:54,689 --> 01:41:57,270 but the guys don't want to play with you anymore. 1696 01:41:57,359 --> 01:42:00,439 When Redford was making the movie Legal Eagles 1697 01:42:00,529 --> 01:42:03,859 and Debra Winger got cast, and Jane didn't, 1698 01:42:03,939 --> 01:42:07,069 she went, "Oh my God, it's happened. 1699 01:42:07,149 --> 01:42:10,689 "Redford isn't fighting for me, or the studio doesn't want me, 1700 01:42:10,779 --> 01:42:13,909 they want the new, fabulous young star." 1701 01:42:13,979 --> 01:42:17,229 Jane: It was a very difficult time. 1702 01:42:17,319 --> 01:42:21,449 Just dark... and painful. 1703 01:42:22,779 --> 01:42:24,699 And then, a friend of mine gave me the name 1704 01:42:24,779 --> 01:42:28,239 of this unbelievable psychic... 1705 01:42:28,319 --> 01:42:29,899 who... 1706 01:42:29,979 --> 01:42:31,979 predicted... 1707 01:42:32,069 --> 01:42:35,109 things-- I mean, down to the minutiae. 1708 01:42:35,189 --> 01:42:41,439 She said to me, "I see money. I see so much money." 1709 01:42:41,529 --> 01:42:43,029 ♪ ♪ 1710 01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:48,770 And then she said, "And I see land... as far as I can see." 1711 01:42:48,859 --> 01:42:49,979 ♪ ♪ 1712 01:42:52,189 --> 01:42:54,319 Of course, it was Ted Turner. 1713 01:42:55,319 --> 01:42:56,569 Reporter: The words used most often 1714 01:42:56,649 --> 01:42:58,819 to describe Robert Edward Turner III 1715 01:42:58,899 --> 01:43:00,479 are controversial, 1716 01:43:00,569 --> 01:43:01,489 rash, 1717 01:43:01,569 --> 01:43:02,569 flamboyant, 1718 01:43:02,649 --> 01:43:03,649 controversial, 1719 01:43:03,739 --> 01:43:04,659 ambitious, 1720 01:43:04,739 --> 01:43:05,949 competitive, 1721 01:43:06,029 --> 01:43:06,739 -and controversial. 1722 01:43:06,819 --> 01:43:09,029 You bet your bippy. 1723 01:43:10,739 --> 01:43:12,909 Ted Turner: The best advice is never do anything. 1724 01:43:14,229 --> 01:43:16,020 You'll never get in trouble if you don't do anything. 1725 01:43:17,229 --> 01:43:21,229 But on the other hand, you'll never get anywhere either... you know. 1726 01:43:23,069 --> 01:43:25,149 Faint heart ne'er won fair lady. 1727 01:43:25,229 --> 01:43:27,520 ♪ ♪ 1728 01:43:33,029 --> 01:43:34,779 Jane: The day after... 1729 01:43:34,859 --> 01:43:38,279 my divorce from Tom Hayden was announced, the phone rang, 1730 01:43:38,359 --> 01:43:40,689 and this booming Southern accent, 1731 01:43:41,229 --> 01:43:43,270 he said, "Would you want to go out with me?" 1732 01:43:43,359 --> 01:43:45,989 And I said, "Well, I'm having a nervous breakdown. 1733 01:43:46,069 --> 01:43:48,739 Call me in six months." 1734 01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:52,609 And six months to the day, Ted asked me out again. 1735 01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:55,399 Ted was a genius, 1736 01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:56,520 billionaire, 1737 01:43:56,609 --> 01:43:58,149 entrepreneur, 1738 01:43:58,609 --> 01:44:00,739 but he was also gorgeous. 1739 01:44:01,149 --> 01:44:05,529 I mean, he was really a handsome man, and very, very sexy. 1740 01:44:05,609 --> 01:44:07,069 ♪ ♪ 1741 01:44:07,149 --> 01:44:09,149 On the first date... 1742 01:44:09,229 --> 01:44:10,359 the way... 1743 01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:12,649 he looked at me... 1744 01:44:12,739 --> 01:44:15,489 I felt like I was being eaten. 1745 01:44:17,279 --> 01:44:19,659 He was devouring me, 1746 01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:22,770 and I got goosebumps all over me. 1747 01:44:23,439 --> 01:44:25,189 Then he said, "You know, I don't know much about you, 1748 01:44:25,279 --> 01:44:28,239 "so I went into CNN and I pulled your archives. 1749 01:44:28,319 --> 01:44:30,449 There was a stack about that high." 1750 01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:34,399 Then he said, "Then I went and I pulled my archives. 1751 01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:37,979 And mine are this high. Mine are bigger than yours." 1752 01:44:38,279 --> 01:44:41,609 I mean, by the time we got to the restaurant, which was only 15 minutes away, 1753 01:44:41,689 --> 01:44:44,229 I felt like a tsunami had rolled over me. 1754 01:44:44,319 --> 01:44:45,899 ♪ ♪ 1755 01:44:45,979 --> 01:44:47,560 When he took me back, 1756 01:44:47,649 --> 01:44:51,939 at the door he said, "Can I hug you?" 1757 01:44:52,029 --> 01:44:56,949 And he hugged me, and he said, "I-- I'm-- I have to tell you that I'm smitten" 1758 01:44:58,109 --> 01:45:04,399 In his heart, Ted is not a wealthy, powerful, privileged person. 1759 01:45:04,479 --> 01:45:08,649 He's a little boy who likes to play, 1760 01:45:09,859 --> 01:45:12,939 and who has wild brilliance, 1761 01:45:13,029 --> 01:45:16,199 and that's what I was attracted to. 1762 01:45:16,689 --> 01:45:19,649 ♪ ♪ 1763 01:45:21,069 --> 01:45:25,069 Weinstein: Ted adored her. He'd never put her down. 1764 01:45:25,149 --> 01:45:28,109 Ted is fucking great. 1765 01:45:28,189 --> 01:45:32,109 I pronounce you, now, man and wife. You may kiss the bride. 1766 01:45:36,689 --> 01:45:38,689 All right! 1767 01:45:40,649 --> 01:45:43,609 Weinstein: Their wedding was hilarious, just hilarious. 1768 01:45:43,689 --> 01:45:48,229 It's the only wedding after which we all mounted horses and went grouse shooting 1769 01:45:48,319 --> 01:45:50,489 ♪ ♪ 1770 01:45:53,569 --> 01:45:57,699 Jane: I'll never forget here on our second date in Montana. 1771 01:45:57,779 --> 01:46:02,029 I remember driving around and he looked out of the window of the Jeep at a bird that was-- 1772 01:46:02,109 --> 01:46:04,149 you could see it in silhouette, 1773 01:46:04,229 --> 01:46:06,310 and he said what it was, 1774 01:46:06,399 --> 01:46:09,859 and he told me the nesting patterns of the bird. 1775 01:46:09,939 --> 01:46:12,520 And I thought, "I could love this man." 1776 01:46:12,609 --> 01:46:14,479 It was so clear... 1777 01:46:14,569 --> 01:46:18,609 that he... had a connection to the land, 1778 01:46:18,689 --> 01:46:20,609 and to the critters, 1779 01:46:20,689 --> 01:46:23,649 and-- and... 1780 01:46:23,739 --> 01:46:25,159 : ...so do I. 1781 01:46:25,229 --> 01:46:26,899 ♪ ♪ 1782 01:46:29,569 --> 01:46:32,189 I grew up in the Santa Monica mountains, 1783 01:46:32,279 --> 01:46:34,949 and I knew all the little animals, 1784 01:46:35,029 --> 01:46:40,569 and the bugs, and the skunks, and the coyotes, and I loved them. 1785 01:46:41,439 --> 01:46:43,520 The household wasn't very happy, 1786 01:46:43,609 --> 01:46:45,609 so that's where I found happiness. 1787 01:46:47,149 --> 01:46:50,149 We were both children of suicide, 1788 01:46:50,229 --> 01:46:52,399 so we understood each other. 1789 01:46:53,149 --> 01:46:56,779 Like me, he had found solace in nature. 1790 01:46:57,939 --> 01:47:01,729 We would ride every day, sometimes three, four, five hours. 1791 01:47:01,819 --> 01:47:04,859 And hiking, and fly-fishing. 1792 01:47:04,939 --> 01:47:06,939 You know, we had adventures. 1793 01:47:08,649 --> 01:47:11,569 Jane, am I correct that you've given up making movies? 1794 01:47:11,649 --> 01:47:12,899 Oh yeah. When I met... 1795 01:47:12,979 --> 01:47:14,560 Ted, I was thinking about doing it anyway, 1796 01:47:14,649 --> 01:47:16,479 but when I met Ted, that clenched it. 1797 01:47:16,569 --> 01:47:19,069 She'd begun the marriage by saying to Ted, "I'll give up work, 1798 01:47:19,149 --> 01:47:21,189 but you give up girls." 1799 01:47:21,279 --> 01:47:24,949 You mean ranching can take the place of all the excitement of doing the movies? 1800 01:47:25,029 --> 01:47:26,279 Ted can. 1801 01:47:26,359 --> 01:47:27,739 ♪ ♪ 1802 01:47:30,979 --> 01:47:32,729 Is that from you, Jeff? 1803 01:47:32,819 --> 01:47:34,739 Turner: Gee, that cost a fortune! 1804 01:47:40,689 --> 01:47:42,270 Williams: I thought that would be a disaster, 1805 01:47:42,359 --> 01:47:45,239 with our liberal, crunchy granola, 1806 01:47:45,319 --> 01:47:48,529 leftist kids coming into his family. 1807 01:47:49,279 --> 01:47:51,069 And it melded amazingly well. 1808 01:47:51,149 --> 01:47:52,819 ♪ ♪ 1809 01:47:54,609 --> 01:47:56,739 I learned a lot... 1810 01:47:56,819 --> 01:48:01,239 with the men in my life, but I learned the most with Ted. 1811 01:48:01,319 --> 01:48:04,149 His vision was macro, 1812 01:48:04,229 --> 01:48:06,939 and I'm micro. 1813 01:48:07,029 --> 01:48:09,569 So we were a great partnership. 1814 01:48:10,649 --> 01:48:12,229 Weinstein: It was... 1815 01:48:12,319 --> 01:48:15,449 a stunningly, interesting marriage. 1816 01:48:15,529 --> 01:48:20,279 Because they shared a view of the world, an internationalism, 1817 01:48:20,359 --> 01:48:22,069 a curiosity. 1818 01:48:22,149 --> 01:48:26,279 And it was great to be out of Hollywood in that dismal period 1819 01:48:26,359 --> 01:48:28,399 where she'd be looking for gigs. 1820 01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:29,649 It was fun. 1821 01:48:30,689 --> 01:48:34,689 But, you know, in the end, it didn't last. 1822 01:48:41,569 --> 01:48:42,939 Jane: Hi, Marta. 1823 01:48:44,319 --> 01:48:47,189 I'm good, I'm in a car heading for my favorite ex-husband's 1824 01:48:47,279 --> 01:48:49,409 ranch in Montana. 1825 01:48:50,859 --> 01:48:53,569 ♪ ♪ 1826 01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:01,020 I think you look great. 1827 01:49:01,109 --> 01:49:03,069 -Ha, I don't-- -I think you look great! 1828 01:49:03,739 --> 01:49:06,029 You look great, too. 1829 01:49:06,109 --> 01:49:07,859 ♪ ♪ 1830 01:49:11,229 --> 01:49:13,310 Oh, it is? 1831 01:49:13,399 --> 01:49:15,149 Gettin' old is hard, isn't, man? 1832 01:49:15,229 --> 01:49:16,020 Oh, it is. 1833 01:49:17,899 --> 01:49:19,819 That tree looks great. Do you ever sit under it 1834 01:49:19,899 --> 01:49:22,029 -No. 1835 01:49:23,279 --> 01:49:26,409 That's your tree. 1836 01:49:28,939 --> 01:49:29,689 It's good to see you. 1837 01:49:29,779 --> 01:49:31,609 It's good to see you. 1838 01:49:32,399 --> 01:49:33,939 ♪ ♪ 1839 01:49:38,939 --> 01:49:39,979 Yeah. 1840 01:49:41,229 --> 01:49:43,060 Well, we had fun in here. 1841 01:49:44,939 --> 01:49:46,319 Can I be bossy for a minute? 1842 01:49:46,399 --> 01:49:47,189 Sure. 1843 01:49:47,279 --> 01:49:48,529 This isn't a good idea. 1844 01:49:48,609 --> 01:49:49,529 Why? 1845 01:49:49,609 --> 01:49:50,899 Because you walk into the back 1846 01:49:50,979 --> 01:49:52,399 of a whole lot of pictures. 1847 01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:54,060 You should turn them, 1848 01:49:54,149 --> 01:49:57,439 and some of them should face this way, and for-- Oh! 1849 01:49:57,979 --> 01:49:59,359 Awww. 1850 01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:00,770 ♪ ♪ 1851 01:50:02,109 --> 01:50:04,529 Jane: We had a wonderful 10 years. 1852 01:50:04,609 --> 01:50:08,609 But I had to hide a part of me, 1853 01:50:08,689 --> 01:50:10,859 in order to please him. 1854 01:50:10,939 --> 01:50:15,399 He would call me when I was in L.A. and he was in Atlanta, 1855 01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:19,649 and he would say, "I'm... shrinking." 1856 01:50:21,319 --> 01:50:25,399 When he is removed from his object of love, 1857 01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:27,229 and he's alone, 1858 01:50:27,319 --> 01:50:30,359 he actually does feel like he's getting small. 1859 01:50:30,979 --> 01:50:34,439 It's very deep and very serious. 1860 01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:37,729 Ted can't be alone. 1861 01:50:37,819 --> 01:50:40,739 And so my whole life 1862 01:50:40,819 --> 01:50:43,819 had to be about him. 1863 01:50:45,609 --> 01:50:49,479 It was rare that I could go to a conference. 1864 01:50:49,569 --> 01:50:52,699 The women's conference in Beijing, I had to really negotiate. 1865 01:50:53,319 --> 01:50:58,109 The Cairo conference, the UN conference on population and development. 1866 01:50:58,189 --> 01:51:01,270 I began an organization called the Georgia Campaign 1867 01:51:01,359 --> 01:51:03,939 for Adolescent Pregnancy Prevention, 1868 01:51:04,029 --> 01:51:07,449 and it was very, very important to me. 1869 01:51:07,529 --> 01:51:10,489 But there was a lot that I wanted to do that I couldn't do. 1870 01:51:12,689 --> 01:51:16,569 As we moved through the decade that we spent together... 1871 01:51:18,189 --> 01:51:21,149 I became more of a feminist. 1872 01:51:21,229 --> 01:51:25,439 And so, my focus was more and more on... 1873 01:51:25,529 --> 01:51:27,529 on women's empowerment. 1874 01:51:29,399 --> 01:51:32,069 But it's hard to be a complete feminist if you're in a marriage that doesn't quite work. 1875 01:51:33,229 --> 01:51:37,060 None of my marriages were democratic, 1876 01:51:38,399 --> 01:51:41,439 because I was too worried about pleasing. 1877 01:51:42,069 --> 01:51:45,319 I had to be a certain way in order for them to love me. 1878 01:51:45,399 --> 01:51:47,189 I had to look a certain way, 1879 01:51:47,279 --> 01:51:49,449 and I looked different for all of them. 1880 01:51:50,399 --> 01:51:54,529 I wanted to be living as a whole Jane, 1881 01:51:55,189 --> 01:51:57,609 fully realized Jane. 1882 01:51:59,069 --> 01:52:04,319 I hoped that Ted would feel okay about it, because... 1883 01:52:04,399 --> 01:52:07,859 I really loved him, and I was hoping that it would be forever. 1884 01:52:07,939 --> 01:52:10,359 But that's not the way it played out. 1885 01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:12,189 ♪ ♪ 1886 01:52:12,279 --> 01:52:16,489 Susan Lacy: When you and Jane parted, how did that affect you? 1887 01:52:17,229 --> 01:52:18,810 It was... 1888 01:52:18,899 --> 01:52:20,279 very difficult. I... 1889 01:52:22,649 --> 01:52:24,029 thought it was a... 1890 01:52:26,779 --> 01:52:28,529 ...a mistake. 1891 01:52:28,609 --> 01:52:31,899 I've survived, and so has she. 1892 01:52:31,979 --> 01:52:33,439 But, uh... 1893 01:52:34,739 --> 01:52:38,989 I feel like I was happier when I was with her than... 1894 01:52:39,069 --> 01:52:40,699 subsequently. 1895 01:52:40,779 --> 01:52:42,319 ♪ ♪ 1896 01:52:44,609 --> 01:52:48,529 Jane: When you reside within your own skin, 1897 01:52:48,609 --> 01:52:50,569 you-- you can feel it. 1898 01:52:50,649 --> 01:52:53,729 You're holding... 1899 01:52:53,819 --> 01:52:55,449 all of you: 1900 01:52:55,529 --> 01:52:56,909 your anger, 1901 01:52:56,979 --> 01:52:58,689 your kindness 1902 01:52:58,779 --> 01:53:00,409 your judgmentalness. 1903 01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:03,020 Everything that makes up what you are, 1904 01:53:03,109 --> 01:53:07,069 including the fact that you may be stronger and braver than the man you're married to. 1905 01:53:07,149 --> 01:53:09,649 ♪ ♪ 1906 01:53:12,109 --> 01:53:17,689 When the time came that I said to him, "Ted, this isn't gonna work... 1907 01:53:17,779 --> 01:53:20,569 "unless there are changes," 1908 01:53:20,649 --> 01:53:22,479 we were in a car, and... 1909 01:53:23,979 --> 01:53:27,109 all the oxygen left the car, and I knew... 1910 01:53:27,189 --> 01:53:28,899 it's not gonna happen. 1911 01:53:28,979 --> 01:53:30,770 ♪ ♪ 1912 01:53:30,859 --> 01:53:32,779 It was awful. 1913 01:53:32,899 --> 01:53:34,819 And... 1914 01:53:34,899 --> 01:53:37,819 I could hear a voice saying, 1915 01:53:37,899 --> 01:53:41,109 "Oh God, Fonda, come on. He's handsome, he's cute, 1916 01:53:41,189 --> 01:53:45,109 "he's sexy. You know you never have to work again. 1917 01:53:45,189 --> 01:53:48,479 Lighten up. Come on." 1918 01:53:48,569 --> 01:53:52,779 And over here, there was a softer little voice saying, 1919 01:53:52,859 --> 01:53:55,819 "If you stay... 1920 01:53:55,899 --> 01:53:59,479 "you will never... be authentic, 1921 01:53:59,569 --> 01:54:03,859 "you will never be able to be whole." 1922 01:54:25,189 --> 01:54:28,899 Dina, I burnt out my blender. 1923 01:54:30,569 --> 01:54:35,149 Jane: After Ted Turner, everything was so... 1924 01:54:35,229 --> 01:54:38,609 wildly quiet. 1925 01:54:38,689 --> 01:54:43,020 It was probably the most profound turning point of my life. 1926 01:54:43,109 --> 01:54:45,689 I left this man... 1927 01:54:46,279 --> 01:54:49,029 and one part of me was so sad, 1928 01:54:49,109 --> 01:54:52,109 and the other part of me said, 1929 01:54:52,189 --> 01:54:54,359 "I'm gonna be okay. 1930 01:54:54,439 --> 01:54:58,060 I don't need a man to make me okay." 1931 01:54:59,109 --> 01:55:02,439 That-- that was it, and I never went back. 1932 01:55:04,779 --> 01:55:08,029 Jane: The problem is you don't understand the problem. 1933 01:55:08,109 --> 01:55:11,189 It's not personal. 1934 01:55:11,279 --> 01:55:16,859 I'm still being treated the way I was for 40 years, and I'm not gonna settle anymore. 1935 01:55:16,939 --> 01:55:21,520 Can't you see how disrespectful you were being? 1936 01:55:21,609 --> 01:55:26,569 I might, I will, I am. Yes, we've talked about it. 1937 01:55:26,649 --> 01:55:28,359 Doing 1938 01:55:28,439 --> 01:55:30,649 I'll tell you what we're doing, we're-- we're-- we're-- 1939 01:55:30,739 --> 01:55:34,159 we're making vibrators for women with arthritis. 1940 01:55:35,739 --> 01:55:38,529 Okay. God... 1941 01:55:38,609 --> 01:55:41,779 Seventy-eight years old, I have a scene in bed with Sam Elliot. 1942 01:55:41,859 --> 01:55:43,689 Pretty good, huh? 1943 01:55:43,779 --> 01:55:44,909 It was fun, too. 1944 01:55:44,979 --> 01:55:47,939 ♪ ♪ 1945 01:55:52,439 --> 01:55:55,060 Jane: Paula Weinstein, who's my best friend, 1946 01:55:55,149 --> 01:55:58,939 she called me and she said, "The Zanucks who were producing the Oscars that year 1947 01:55:59,029 --> 01:56:02,449 want you to present an award." 1948 01:56:02,529 --> 01:56:05,279 And I said, "I can't, I'm not in the business anymore." 1949 01:56:05,359 --> 01:56:06,529 She said, "Shut up, 1950 01:56:06,609 --> 01:56:08,069 "Vera Wang's gonna make you a dress 1951 01:56:08,149 --> 01:56:09,899 and Sally Hershberger's gonna cut your hair." 1952 01:56:11,609 --> 01:56:13,109 I came out... 1953 01:56:13,189 --> 01:56:15,399 I could hear a gasp from the audience 1954 01:56:15,479 --> 01:56:17,020 'cause I looked really good. 1955 01:56:17,649 --> 01:56:21,149 And right away, I got offered Monster-In-Law. 1956 01:56:21,229 --> 01:56:22,899 ♪ ♪ 1957 01:56:24,029 --> 01:56:26,489 You know, I thought, "Well... 1958 01:56:26,569 --> 01:56:30,279 "people are gonna go see it because of Jennifer Lopez, 1959 01:56:30,359 --> 01:56:33,069 "but they're gonna discover, or rediscover, Jane Fonda." 1960 01:56:36,819 --> 01:56:38,649 ♪ ♪ 1961 01:56:38,739 --> 01:56:42,109 I'm sorry, I thought it was air freshener. 1962 01:56:43,529 --> 01:56:45,449 Jane, I'm-- I'm telling you, I couldn't be, uh, 1963 01:56:45,529 --> 01:56:48,319 happier for you. I'm a-- This thing has just been tremendous. 1964 01:56:48,399 --> 01:56:53,229 And I would think after this run of the play, you would like some time just to relax, but no! 1965 01:56:53,319 --> 01:56:56,779 You see, I'm the brand ambassador for L'Oreal 1966 01:56:56,859 --> 01:56:58,779 for older women, but they never-- 1967 01:56:58,859 --> 01:57:01,149 nobody's ever had a brand ambassador my age. 1968 01:57:01,229 --> 01:57:04,020 I competed with Margaret Mead, and what they have me doing... 1969 01:57:04,109 --> 01:57:09,069 -...is um, hand cream, face cream, and embalming oil. 1970 01:57:09,689 --> 01:57:12,649 Jane: I never thought I'd still be doing this. 1971 01:57:12,739 --> 01:57:16,029 If you would have told me, that I would be my age now, 1972 01:57:16,109 --> 01:57:17,529 and still working, 1973 01:57:17,609 --> 01:57:20,189 I would have been totally flabbergasted. 1974 01:57:20,279 --> 01:57:22,529 Photographers: Jane! Jane! Jane! 1975 01:57:24,609 --> 01:57:26,479 I'm just kind of amazed that I have... 1976 01:57:26,569 --> 01:57:28,819 managed to recreate a career, and I'm-- 1977 01:57:28,899 --> 01:57:30,649 as busy as I am. 1978 01:57:30,739 --> 01:57:31,869 God! 1979 01:57:31,939 --> 01:57:34,189 -I mean, can't a lady have a-- -Leona! 1980 01:57:34,279 --> 01:57:37,779 We don't have the trust of the public anymore. 1981 01:57:38,229 --> 01:57:39,729 Get it back! 1982 01:57:40,069 --> 01:57:42,609 I forgot, I forgot to slow down, I'm sorry. 1983 01:57:42,689 --> 01:57:45,479 Jane: Now, I'm making a movie with Bob Redford again. 1984 01:57:46,439 --> 01:57:48,189 Robert Redford: She is so busy. 1985 01:57:48,279 --> 01:57:50,659 No grass grows under her feet. 1986 01:57:50,739 --> 01:57:52,359 She puts me in the shade. 1987 01:57:52,439 --> 01:57:53,859 You ready for sushi? 1988 01:57:53,939 --> 01:57:55,859 Yes, I am. 1989 01:57:55,939 --> 01:57:59,689 Tomlin: Grace and Frankie, when it came along, just seemed right. 1990 01:57:59,779 --> 01:58:02,699 We can play out this part of our lives 1991 01:58:02,779 --> 01:58:04,569 in a project that speaks 1992 01:58:04,649 --> 01:58:06,399 what we wanna speak about. 1993 01:58:06,479 --> 01:58:08,859 Older women, older people, older, uh, 1994 01:58:08,939 --> 01:58:11,189 gay people, older straight people. 1995 01:58:11,279 --> 01:58:15,159 How am I gonna explain to my kids that their grandma makes sex toys for other grandmas? 1996 01:58:15,229 --> 01:58:16,859 Well, I'll tell you what to tell them, honey. 1997 01:58:16,939 --> 01:58:19,649 You tell them that we make things for people like us. 1998 01:58:19,739 --> 01:58:22,529 Sam Waterston: She lived her life in front of us, 1999 01:58:22,609 --> 01:58:27,399 and as she's grown older, she's shown us what that's like. 2000 01:58:27,479 --> 01:58:29,560 She's not afraid to be out there. 2001 01:58:29,649 --> 01:58:34,189 We are sick and tired of being dismissed by people like you. 2002 01:58:34,279 --> 01:58:37,239 -Mic drop. -It's about answering back, 2003 01:58:37,319 --> 01:58:41,359 not going quietly into that great good night. 2004 01:58:41,439 --> 01:58:44,609 And then go ahead and lower down and when you lower down, I want you to let your knees bend. 2005 01:58:44,689 --> 01:58:46,520 Great, and then pull right back up again. 2006 01:58:46,609 --> 01:58:47,569 -So-- 2007 01:58:47,649 --> 01:58:49,109 You could use both so r-- 2008 01:58:49,189 --> 01:58:50,359 Jane: I'm glad... 2009 01:58:50,439 --> 01:58:52,770 that I look good for my age. 2010 01:58:54,529 --> 01:58:58,699 But I've also had plastic surgery, I'm not gonna lie about that. 2011 01:59:00,609 --> 01:59:04,689 On one level, I hate the fact that I have had the need... 2012 01:59:04,779 --> 01:59:06,739 to alter myself physically 2013 01:59:06,819 --> 01:59:08,779 to feel that I'm okay. 2014 01:59:11,529 --> 01:59:13,449 I wish that I wasn't... 2015 01:59:13,529 --> 01:59:15,319 like that. 2016 01:59:15,399 --> 01:59:18,399 I love older faces. 2017 01:59:18,479 --> 01:59:23,149 I love lived-in faces. I love Vanessa Redgrave's face. 2018 01:59:23,229 --> 01:59:26,270 I wish I was braver. 2019 01:59:26,359 --> 01:59:28,989 But, um... 2020 01:59:29,069 --> 01:59:30,949 I am what I am. 2021 01:59:31,029 --> 01:59:33,199 ♪ ♪ 2022 01:59:39,479 --> 01:59:43,479 Your age is less chronological, 2023 01:59:43,569 --> 01:59:48,569 and more spiritual, and attitudinal. 2024 01:59:50,529 --> 01:59:54,279 I was so old at 20. 2025 01:59:56,109 --> 01:59:59,739 I mean, maybe people who knew me then would have said, "What?!" 2026 02:00:00,739 --> 02:00:05,319 But on a soul level, I was really... 2027 02:00:05,399 --> 02:00:07,779 I saw no future. 2028 02:00:07,859 --> 02:00:09,689 I was very dark, 2029 02:00:09,779 --> 02:00:11,779 very sad person. 2030 02:00:13,229 --> 02:00:15,189 There was no joy. 2031 02:00:17,569 --> 02:00:20,859 I didn't really know who I was. 2032 02:00:20,939 --> 02:00:25,859 It took me a really long time to find my own narrative. 2033 02:00:27,529 --> 02:00:30,909 Weinstein: Few people move me as much as she does. 2034 02:00:30,979 --> 02:00:33,810 She's gotta fight all her life 2035 02:00:33,899 --> 02:00:36,359 her insecurity, 2036 02:00:36,439 --> 02:00:38,689 knowing her own value. 2037 02:00:38,779 --> 02:00:42,529 And that's a journey that continues for her. I think she's gonna have that... 2038 02:00:42,609 --> 02:00:46,819 forever, but-- but nobody braver to tackle it. 2039 02:00:46,899 --> 02:00:48,899 ♪ ♪ 2040 02:00:49,739 --> 02:00:51,699 Jane: When I watched my dad die, 2041 02:00:51,779 --> 02:00:53,409 I felt that he... 2042 02:00:53,479 --> 02:00:55,439 had a lot of regrets. 2043 02:00:56,609 --> 02:01:00,069 I do not want to get to the end of life... 2044 02:01:00,149 --> 02:01:03,529 with a lot of regrets, and I know that the regrets won't be what I did, 2045 02:01:03,609 --> 02:01:07,319 they'll be for the things I didn't do. 2046 02:01:07,399 --> 02:01:10,859 This is the beginning of my last act. 2047 02:01:10,939 --> 02:01:13,270 In order to know how to go forward, 2048 02:01:13,359 --> 02:01:15,569 I was gonna have to know where I'd been. 2049 02:01:15,649 --> 02:01:17,069 ♪ ♪ 2050 02:01:17,149 --> 02:01:19,979 Let's see. 2051 02:01:26,819 --> 02:01:29,109 That's my grandmother. 2052 02:01:29,189 --> 02:01:31,819 That's the house where my dad grew up. 2053 02:01:32,649 --> 02:01:34,859 Jane: If you really go back, 2054 02:01:34,939 --> 02:01:37,569 and try to understand who you've been, 2055 02:01:37,649 --> 02:01:41,569 you have to understand who your parents were. 2056 02:01:41,649 --> 02:01:45,399 Why were they not able... 2057 02:01:45,479 --> 02:01:48,359 to really look at you with eyes of love, 2058 02:01:48,439 --> 02:01:52,859 reflect yourself back with eyes of love. 2059 02:01:52,939 --> 02:01:57,939 Why did they have duct tape over their eyes? Why did narcissism blind them... 2060 02:01:58,029 --> 02:02:00,909 from being able to really see you? 2061 02:02:02,359 --> 02:02:07,109 Who were their parents? Why did their parents... 2062 02:02:07,189 --> 02:02:08,819 treat them the way they did? 2063 02:02:09,859 --> 02:02:13,859 ♪ ♪ 2064 02:02:21,189 --> 02:02:24,939 I began, in 2000, to write my memoirs. 2065 02:02:25,029 --> 02:02:28,949 I dedicated them to my mother, because I thought it was gonna force me... 2066 02:02:29,029 --> 02:02:32,319 to figure out who she was. 2067 02:02:34,359 --> 02:02:38,649 I found out that my mother was the life of the party. 2068 02:02:38,739 --> 02:02:42,699 "Everybody loved being around your mother!" They did? 2069 02:02:42,779 --> 02:02:48,609 "Oh my gosh! Oh, and she was-- I mean, men loved her." 2070 02:02:49,739 --> 02:02:54,699 And her father's, my grandfather's side, of the family said, "Gasp! 2071 02:02:54,779 --> 02:02:59,029 "Oh we all wanted to be close to your mother. She was a rock." 2072 02:02:59,109 --> 02:03:03,819 I was like, "My mother?" It was such a... 2073 02:03:03,899 --> 02:03:08,609 unlike my image of who she was. It just stunned me. 2074 02:03:10,739 --> 02:03:14,989 All these conflicting stories came to me and I'd always sensed that... 2075 02:03:16,609 --> 02:03:21,529 ...she must have had a really hard childhood. And, um... 2076 02:03:21,609 --> 02:03:24,569 so with the help of a lawyer, I got her medical records 2077 02:03:24,649 --> 02:03:28,359 from the institution where she killed herself, and... 2078 02:03:28,439 --> 02:03:30,569 um... 2079 02:03:32,109 --> 02:03:34,689 I found, from her medical records 2080 02:03:34,779 --> 02:03:37,739 that she suffered from manic depression, that's what they called it. 2081 02:03:37,819 --> 02:03:40,989 It's today called bipolar. 2082 02:03:41,069 --> 02:03:43,569 And there was this little autobiography, 2083 02:03:43,649 --> 02:03:46,779 they must have asked her to write her life story. 2084 02:03:47,979 --> 02:03:50,689 What a gift. 2085 02:03:50,779 --> 02:03:54,159 Suddenly it's like, 2086 02:03:54,229 --> 02:03:56,689 it had nothing to do with me! 2087 02:03:56,779 --> 02:04:00,109 It wasn't that I was not lovable. 2088 02:04:01,689 --> 02:04:05,399 It's that things would happen to her, she had a very, very 2089 02:04:05,479 --> 02:04:08,899 hard childhood, and, um, 2090 02:04:08,979 --> 02:04:15,810 it broke her, in some way on some fundamental way, it broke her. 2091 02:04:17,649 --> 02:04:22,899 Garity: I think the most defining moment in my mother's life 2092 02:04:22,979 --> 02:04:26,149 was the death of her mother. 2093 02:04:27,859 --> 02:04:31,069 Jane: My mother died in 1950, 2094 02:04:31,149 --> 02:04:35,609 and I never had an inclination to come here. 2095 02:04:36,149 --> 02:04:40,979 And at the time, it's the right time for me to come and... 2096 02:04:41,069 --> 02:04:43,649 and visit her grave. 2097 02:04:43,739 --> 02:04:46,359 ♪ ♪ 2098 02:05:06,359 --> 02:05:09,189 I finished her life story. 2099 02:05:10,359 --> 02:05:14,279 And all I wanted to do was take her in my arms 2100 02:05:14,359 --> 02:05:16,939 and just say, "I'm so sorry. 2101 02:05:17,029 --> 02:05:21,989 "I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry that I wasn't... 2102 02:05:22,069 --> 02:05:28,199 "more loving to you, I didn't know. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. 2103 02:05:28,279 --> 02:05:29,989 Please forgive me." 2104 02:05:30,069 --> 02:05:32,069 ♪ ♪ 2105 02:05:42,939 --> 02:05:47,689 Their incapacity to love wasn't because you weren't... 2106 02:05:47,779 --> 02:05:52,949 worthy of love, but it was because they, too, had been wounded. 2107 02:05:53,029 --> 02:05:54,409 ♪ ♪ 2108 02:05:57,779 --> 02:06:00,069 And then you can forgive. 2109 02:06:08,939 --> 02:06:13,149 It goes from one generation to another, and... 2110 02:06:13,229 --> 02:06:16,770 somebody's got to break the cycle. 2111 02:06:18,899 --> 02:06:22,859 One of the reasons that I wanted to write my book was 2112 02:06:22,939 --> 02:06:25,979 because I wanted my daughter to know 2113 02:06:26,069 --> 02:06:29,399 why I wasn't a better parent to her 2114 02:06:29,479 --> 02:06:32,359 and that it had nothing to do with her. 2115 02:06:32,439 --> 02:06:34,939 ♪ ♪ 2116 02:06:36,979 --> 02:06:40,109 I get so sad... 2117 02:06:41,609 --> 02:06:47,359 when I think of what I wasn't for my daughter that she needed. 2118 02:06:50,689 --> 02:06:55,189 And it's hard to take that in 'cause it's so painful, 2119 02:06:55,979 --> 02:06:59,979 but it's never too late, I think. 2120 02:07:02,779 --> 02:07:05,739 There are things between us now that... 2121 02:07:05,819 --> 02:07:09,319 didn't used to be there, and I think we both feel it. 2122 02:07:09,979 --> 02:07:12,609 Deep down, we love each other. 2123 02:07:14,609 --> 02:07:18,189 I hope that she'll be able to forgive me. 2124 02:07:24,609 --> 02:07:29,529 And I feel lucky that I have my family, and my extended family. 2125 02:07:30,069 --> 02:07:34,149 I'm now having relationships that are much more democratic. 2126 02:07:35,529 --> 02:07:41,109 But I am most myself when I'm with my women friends. 2127 02:07:41,189 --> 02:07:45,609 Like a lot of people, I sort of thought that I would 2128 02:07:45,689 --> 02:07:50,109 at some point, you know, kind of retire, and... 2129 02:07:50,189 --> 02:07:52,229 but that's not gonna happen. 2130 02:07:52,319 --> 02:07:53,939 ♪ ♪ 2131 02:07:54,029 --> 02:07:55,949 Reporter: Actress Jane Fonda traveled to Standing Rock 2132 02:07:56,029 --> 02:07:58,779 to serve Thanksgiving meals to demonstrators. 2133 02:07:58,859 --> 02:08:03,359 This is a battle for, not just Standing Rock, but for everyone. 2134 02:08:04,359 --> 02:08:07,359 Jane: It's hard to be really happy if your life doesn't have meaning. 2135 02:08:08,319 --> 02:08:12,109 People turn to religion because it gives them some meaning, 2136 02:08:12,189 --> 02:08:14,979 but I am an activist. 2137 02:08:15,069 --> 02:08:19,149 Hey, hey! Ho, ho! Donald Trump has got to go! 2138 02:08:19,229 --> 02:08:21,270 But we're in a whole new era. 2139 02:08:21,359 --> 02:08:25,319 When there's a catastrophe that's happened, we have to be out in the streets. 2140 02:08:27,899 --> 02:08:34,109 We don't have to choose between the environment and the economy. That is a false choice. 2141 02:08:34,189 --> 02:08:36,770 Reporter: Actresses Jane Fonda and Lily Tomlin 2142 02:08:36,859 --> 02:08:39,149 among several celebrities joining the protest, 2143 02:08:39,229 --> 02:08:41,649 and marching with the demonstrators. 2144 02:08:42,939 --> 02:08:44,319 Jane: Say it with me: 2145 02:08:44,399 --> 02:08:46,979 I pledge to resist! 2146 02:08:47,069 --> 02:08:48,949 I pledge to resist! 2147 02:08:49,029 --> 02:08:52,949 Weinstein: She is not a fly-by-night activist. 2148 02:08:53,739 --> 02:08:56,359 It is deep in her soul. 2149 02:08:56,439 --> 02:09:01,439 There is no stopping that part of herself 'cause it feeds everything. 2150 02:09:01,939 --> 02:09:03,689 Jane: They wouldn't let us in, 2151 02:09:03,779 --> 02:09:06,859 but we can still take our money out! 2152 02:09:09,279 --> 02:09:12,029 Garity: There's this kinetic energy. 2153 02:09:12,109 --> 02:09:13,819 She won't stop. 2154 02:09:13,899 --> 02:09:16,689 She's on a mission. 2155 02:09:16,779 --> 02:09:20,199 This intent to do well 2156 02:09:20,279 --> 02:09:23,739 keeps her demons at bay. 2157 02:09:23,819 --> 02:09:29,189 Sometimes I want to say, "You don't need to prove anything else to anyone. 2158 02:09:29,279 --> 02:09:33,909 "You don't need to push... so hard, constantly." 2159 02:09:33,979 --> 02:09:35,689 But... 2160 02:09:35,779 --> 02:09:40,069 she is who she is and... 2161 02:09:40,149 --> 02:09:45,359 I-- I, quite honestly, I wouldn't change anything about her. 2162 02:09:45,439 --> 02:09:48,479 ♪ ♪ 2163 02:09:50,319 --> 02:09:54,609 Jane: I had spent so much of my life feeling if I'm not perfect, no one can love me. 2164 02:09:56,319 --> 02:09:58,069 And then... 2165 02:09:58,149 --> 02:10:03,569 I realized that trying to be perfect is a toxic journey. 2166 02:10:03,649 --> 02:10:05,439 We're not perfect. 2167 02:10:05,529 --> 02:10:08,609 We have to love our shadow, 2168 02:10:08,689 --> 02:10:12,979 we have to embrace and accept our shadows. 2169 02:10:15,859 --> 02:10:19,859 And sometimes, good enough is good enough. 2170 02:10:20,899 --> 02:10:22,689 ♪ ♪ 2171 02:10:38,529 --> 02:10:40,569 ♪ ♪ 159927

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