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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,559 '..goes by the name of Nigel Dempster. 2 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:32,560 'All that and much more on TVAM, 3 00:00:32,561 --> 00:00:35,559 'but for the moment, on behalf of all of us here 4 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,560 'at our studios at Thames, good night.' 5 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,560 Mum? 6 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,560 Hi, Mum! 7 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:14,560 Mum! 8 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,240 Mum? 9 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,560 Mum?! 10 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,560 Mum! 11 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:21,560 Mum! 12 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,559 What are you doing, Colin? 13 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,559 Looking for dishwasher salt. I could've sworn I bought some. 14 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,559 Want me to pick some up? 15 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Er, yeah. Would you? 16 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,560 Hamish Campbell. 17 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Er, DCI Colin Sutton to see Hamish Campbell. 18 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,559 He's this way. Just through there. 19 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,560 Thank you. 20 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,559 ..apprehension of this dangerous man 21 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,559 without regard to his personal safety 22 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,079 was in the finest tradition of the Metropolitan Police. 23 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,559 Apologies - commendation write-up. Hello, Colin. 24 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,759 Morning, sir. 25 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,559 Bloody amazing, what these young PCs will do for us. 26 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,559 Yes. Well done, again, on Bellfield. 27 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,559 Oh, it's team effort, sir, thank you. 28 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,560 Great work. 29 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,559 What do you know about Operation Minstead? 30 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,559 A long string of burglaries and rapes of the elderly 31 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,759 dating back to the '90s. 1992, 17 years. 32 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,559 The press called him the Night Stalker, 33 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,559 and he's recently become active again. 34 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,559 Haven't we got his DNA? 35 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,559 Yeah, but he's not in the system, so we can't ID him. 36 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,559 DNA tells us he's of West Indian origin, but that's it. 37 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,559 Our new commissioner has suggested that we make the Night Stalker 38 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,079 a priority of the Command. 39 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,559 Right, and when a new commissioner suggests... 40 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,559 Oh... he thinks there's an impression 41 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,559 that the Met drags its heels 42 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:18,599 when it comes to serial sex offenders. 43 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,560 Well, after Worboys, I can't blame him. 44 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,559 Given that you have some experience with high-profile, 45 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:27,919 serial sex offenders... 46 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,560 well, I thought you could bring something to the table. 47 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,599 Right. So do you want my team to take a look at it 48 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,759 or for me to review what they've got? 49 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,559 The latter. Definitely the latter. Simon Morgan remains as SIO. 50 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,559 Didn't Serious Crime just do a review? 51 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,759 Yes, they did, and there's been at least three before that. 52 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,559 This guy's good, Colin - 17 years and he's never left a fingerprint, 53 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,559 never let a witness see his face. 54 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,079 Years go by, no offences. 55 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,239 Teams get broken up, budgets get re-allocated, 56 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,560 and then he starts again. 57 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,559 It's a ten-year investigation. 58 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,399 They might be missing something that's staring them in the face. 59 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:05,559 That's ten years of feathers to ruffle. 60 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,559 I-I know you're retiring in a few months. 61 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:14,560 I just need you to take a look. In and out in a couple of weeks. 62 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,559 Well, come on, give us a clue. 63 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,559 I want you to dig out everything you can on Operation Minstead 64 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:23,560 and email it to me. 65 00:06:23,561 --> 00:06:27,400 They're not lumbering us with that? No, just me for the moment. 66 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,559 Right. I'm just gonna have a look. 67 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:31,920 A fresh pair of eyes and all that. 68 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,560 But I do need those files, Clive. 69 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,559 Oh, you must be the analyst? DCI Colin Sutton. 70 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,559 Richard Moore. 71 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,720 I'm here to see Simon Morgan. 72 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,560 Another review, is it? Yes and no. 73 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,559 Er, incident rooms, straight ahead. 74 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,240 Thank you, Richard. 75 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,560 DCI Sutton? 76 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,559 DI Nathan Eason. 77 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,559 Colin Sutton. I'm here to see Simon Morgan. 78 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:05,560 Yeah, he's not here, I'm afraid. 79 00:08:05,561 --> 00:08:07,559 What d'you mean? We're meeting at 12. 80 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,559 I know. He left me to be the welcome party. 81 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,919 We had another one last night. Oh, right. 82 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,560 What, and Simon's at the scene, is he? He is, yeah. 83 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,560 OK, er, well, there's nothing like learning on the job, is there? 84 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,559 I'm sure he won't be long. 85 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,080 Don't worry, Nathan, I won't get under anyone's feet. Let's go. 86 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,080 All right. 87 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:48,560 DCI Colin Sutton. He's with me. 88 00:08:54,560 --> 00:08:56,559 Simon Morgan. Colin Sutton. 89 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:59,559 I was hoping to brief you properly before you came to a scene, 90 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:01,559 but no matter. 91 00:09:01,560 --> 00:09:04,559 The victim's a Sandra Nelson, 82-year-old woman. 92 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:06,559 She's been taken to hospital. Is she hurt? 93 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:09,559 TBC. She's traumatised, like so many before her. 94 00:09:09,560 --> 00:09:12,559 Might not be able to give us a reliable account. 95 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:15,559 Original concrete path, original front door 96 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:18,599 with inlaid panes of glass intact, a nice shade of mid-blue. 97 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,559 Hmm. Sends a signal. 98 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,559 Yeah. "Old person lives here". 99 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:24,559 To which our man is fully attuned. 100 00:09:24,560 --> 00:09:27,600 Yeah, well, practise makes perfect, I suppose. 101 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,559 Forensics reckons he was hiding in that corner all night, 102 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:41,559 hour after hour, just waiting for his moment. 103 00:09:41,560 --> 00:09:43,399 He's leaving DNA, but he doesn't care. 104 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,559 He's not in the system and he knows it. 105 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:48,559 How long have you had it? 106 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:50,079 The Night Stalker's DNA. 107 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,239 1992. 108 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,559 Look, er, no offence, 109 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:55,560 but that's a name coined by the press 110 00:09:55,561 --> 00:09:59,559 to sell papers and scare people. I never use it, neither do my team. 111 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:01,400 Minstead Man is how we refer to him. 112 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:04,560 Right. I'll know for next time. 113 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:29,559 Two years ago, he stopped dead after the case featured on Crimewatch, 114 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:30,560 and then, a month ago, 115 00:10:30,561 --> 00:10:33,599 he hit three homes in three weeks, still targeting elderly women. 116 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,559 And where were those offences? 117 00:10:35,560 --> 00:10:39,079 Clara-Jane Proctor, 74, was sexually assaulted in the house 118 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,559 where she was born in Birch Avenue, Shirley. 119 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:44,559 Then a week later, Lynn Marie Kerr, 69, 120 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:46,559 a former headmistress from Coulsdon, was burgled. 121 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:50,559 Two nights after that, he moves up to Croydon. Phylis Carlton, 71, 122 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:53,559 a widow that had just buried her husband. 123 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:55,560 Can't always leave DNA, can he? 124 00:10:56,560 --> 00:10:59,559 So what other markers tell you it's Minstead Man? 125 00:10:59,560 --> 00:11:03,559 Well, top five would be age of victims, light bulbs removed, 126 00:11:03,560 --> 00:11:06,560 phone lines cut, balaclava, gloves... 127 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:09,559 He's covered the PIR light again, boss. 128 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:12,079 DS Neville Hylton, DCI Colin Sutton. 129 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,560 Let's have a look. This way. 130 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:18,079 Stops the motion-sensitive lights coming on 131 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,919 when he's stalking the property. Just up there. 132 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,399 Last time, he used a glove, 133 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,559 time before was a broken branch, but not from a nearby tree. 134 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:29,559 He comes prepared. That's an understatement. 135 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:31,559 It's hard to reconcile, isn't it? 136 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:35,559 The control and the planning with the depravity of what he does? 137 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:36,599 Yeah, it is. 138 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,559 Is it OK if I speak to the victim some time? 139 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:42,559 Well, as long as the FLO's happy. It's her call. Yeah. 140 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:44,559 I'll brief you properly back at Lewisham. 141 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,559 Neville, wanna show me this corner, mate? 142 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:48,559 OK, it's this way, boss. 143 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:51,080 We found some more cigarette butts like last time... 144 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:55,080 Is he in pain? 145 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:59,560 Could've bailed years ago on a full injury pay out. 146 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:03,919 Altercation with a prisoner, left him with massive spinal injuries. 147 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,560 Nathan. 148 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,079 DCI Colin Sutton, DC Patricia Henry, our FLO. 149 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,559 Good to meet you. You, too. 150 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:01,559 Colin's joining us for a few days, giving us the benefit of his wisdom. 151 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:02,560 Well, I wouldn't go that far. 152 00:13:02,561 --> 00:13:05,559 No offence, but I'm not sure you'll get your head around this case 153 00:13:05,560 --> 00:13:06,560 in a few days. 154 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:09,919 How's Sandra? 155 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,919 She suffers from dementia, so we haven't got much beyond the usual - 156 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,559 balaclava, torch, the opening one-word demand for money. 157 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:18,919 Do you think she's been sexually abused? 158 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,079 Don't know. We just swabbed for semen and DNA. 159 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,560 Poor woman. She kept asking the nurse what she was doing. 160 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:32,559 She did mention something we've seen in a few other Minstead offences - 161 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:34,559 he took her pulse. 162 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:36,559 Any idea why he'd do that? 163 00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:40,559 Well, one time, the victim feigned injury so he felt her pulse, 164 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:44,559 said, "Nothing's wrong with you" and punched her to the floor. 165 00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:47,559 Would you mind if I had a quick word with her? 166 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:49,559 Yes, I would. 167 00:13:49,560 --> 00:13:51,559 She needs rest, and with respect, 168 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:54,559 you wouldn't elicit anything from her I haven't. 169 00:13:54,560 --> 00:13:55,600 Fair enough. 170 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:01,919 Bit of a wasted trip. For you, I mean. 171 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,559 Oh, I wouldn't say that. Oh, no matter. 172 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:07,559 Almost all the interviews with the victims were recorded. 173 00:14:07,560 --> 00:14:10,559 I warn you, they're not easy viewing. 174 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:12,559 No, I understand. Thank you. 175 00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,680 A good number of his victims have already passed away. 176 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,559 Janet, for instance. 177 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,559 She suffered a perforated bowel during her assault 178 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:28,560 and died shortly after. 179 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,079 Did he kill her? Not legally. 180 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,560 But in every other way... 181 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:38,560 Yeah. 182 00:14:38,561 --> 00:14:40,560 I could've left this case years ago. 183 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,560 Probably should have. 184 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,559 I would've had a very different career, but... 185 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,560 Yeah, I understand. 186 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,560 Far as I'm concerned, he's a serial killer. 187 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,559 Perhaps we should, er, get to the investigation. 188 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,559 I've got a few preliminary questions. 189 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,599 Sorry, no time. I've got a thing at the Yard now. 190 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,559 What? A budget meeting. Pain in the arse. 191 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,559 I thought you were gonna brief me fully back at the station? 192 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,239 Well, with respect, if you hadn't gone to the hospital, 193 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:13,559 we would've had time. 194 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,559 Team meeting in the morning, my place. Your place? 195 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,559 The best way for you to catch up. Nathan will give you the address. 196 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,559 Meantime, I'll collate some files, 197 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,560 give you a chance to get a proper handle on things. 198 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Thank you. 199 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,559 You got a minute? 200 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,560 Erm, yeah. 201 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,559 At the scene, I noticed you were running a full cordon 202 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,239 with a PC signing everyone in and out, 203 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,559 and you were canvassing statements, doing a bit of house-to-house. 204 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:02,560 That's right. 205 00:16:02,561 --> 00:16:04,559 Oh, it's just that that level of response 206 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,920 you normally reserve for a murder. 207 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,399 Well, we're just trying to be thorough, Colin. 208 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,079 But you haven't got the budget or the manpower for a murder inquiry, 209 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:13,559 nothing near. 210 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,399 You know how it is. 211 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,559 Parts of CID have a mindset that says offences 212 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,599 that aren't murder are lesser crimes, even rape. 213 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,239 And that's what we're guarding against. 214 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,559 That's very laudable in theory, 215 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,559 but if you haven't got the resources... 216 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,759 Yeah, well, it's not been easy, I grant you. 217 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,559 Why don't I buy you a proper cup of coffee? 218 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,560 Might even run to a biscuit. 219 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,560 OK. 220 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,559 So would you say that having Minstead Man's DNA 221 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,559 is viewed as your strongest lead? Yeah. 222 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,559 And so that's the focus of the investigation? 223 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:57,560 Absolutely, yeah. 224 00:16:57,561 --> 00:17:00,559 All right. So what's your screening criteria? 225 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,559 How'd you prioritise who gets tested? 226 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,559 Well, the base level of our pool is he's a black male 227 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:12,559 whose DNA isn't on the database and who was aged 18 to 40 in 1992. 228 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,560 That's hundreds of thousands of people. 229 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,559 Yeah, it is. That's not a pool, it's an ocean. 230 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:19,560 Well, we then prioritise 231 00:17:19,561 --> 00:17:22,559 based on intelligence gained from witness statements. 232 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,559 OK. Can you give me an example? 233 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,919 Yeah. 234 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,559 One victim said she heard a motorcycle start up 235 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,079 right after the suspect left. 236 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,559 So men in the pool who own motorbikes became a priority? 237 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,080 For a time, yeah. Any more examples? 238 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,559 Someone noticed there'd been a rash of offences in streets 239 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,559 where satellite TV was recently installed. OK. 240 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,079 Thinking is, if he's an engineer, he'd be hidden in plain sight - 241 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,559 he could perform reconnaissance and select targets unnoticed. 242 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,559 Right. And what about the swabbing operation? 243 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,559 How many DNA samples are you taking a week? 244 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,559 Oh, well, that-that varies. 245 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,559 I think we're out today, actually. 246 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,559 Really? Do you know what'd be a help? 247 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,560 If I could tag along and see how these things are done. 248 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,559 Kieron Gould? 249 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,559 DS Neville Hylton, DC Adam Spier, DCI Colin Sutton. 250 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:30,559 What d'you want? 251 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,559 Er, we need you to step back inside, please. 252 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,920 It won't take a minute. What won't take a minute? 253 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,560 We need to take your DNA, Kieron. 254 00:18:37,561 --> 00:18:39,559 We need to eliminate you from our inquiries. 255 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,559 Inquiries into what? What's the charge? 256 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,560 There's no charge, Kieron. Well, what's the case, then? 257 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,559 It's a serial rapist. 258 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:49,560 Fuck off. Seriously? 259 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,559 Why is my name on your list? 260 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,559 I can't divulge that. 261 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,079 I can't help you. I'll miss my appointment. No, you won't, mate. 262 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,919 You just stop arguing and comply and everyone's a winner. 263 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,559 Do I have to comply? Do you have a warrant? 264 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,559 No, we don't. It's voluntary. 265 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:09,560 In that case, get lost. 266 00:19:09,561 --> 00:19:11,399 Well, why take that attitude? 267 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,559 Eh? If you've got nothing to hide, what're you worried about? 268 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,559 It's a question of trust... or lack of it. 269 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,560 See, if you grew up around here, you'd know what I mean. 270 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:24,600 You would, anyway. 271 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,399 Hello, Clive. 'How was it, boss?' 272 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,759 I'm still getting the lay of the land. 273 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,560 'Got time for a beer?' All right. Yeah, just a quick one. 274 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,760 'Boss?' Clive, do a car check for me? 275 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,600 Cheers, Sarah. 276 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,559 Hello, Clive. All right, Guv? 277 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,759 You all right? 278 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,760 Yeah. Volvo is registered to a Bob Stiles. 279 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,559 Not what you were expecting? 280 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,080 Er, no. Not quite. Thanks, though. 281 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,400 Don't you think it's a bit weird? As in convenient? 282 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,559 Sorry. Long day. 283 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,559 Well, I mean, there's a fair few other DCIs they could've asked 284 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,239 apart from you, Guv. 285 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:50,760 Yeah, I suppose so. 286 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,559 I mean, what is the Minstead inquiry at this point? 287 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:01,559 It's a black hole, decade-plus train wreck, poison chalice. 288 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,559 You think someone's trying to poison me, Clive? 289 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,559 I don't think you take a scalp like Bellfield 290 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,560 without making some enemies. 291 00:22:07,561 --> 00:22:09,559 That sounds a bit paranoid. 292 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,560 Maybe. 293 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,559 I can't help feeling that this is just the start. 294 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,239 They get rid of you and then they dismantle the team... 295 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,559 Get rid of me? I'll be back in two weeks. 296 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,760 ..just because we smashed it, because they can. 297 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,920 What, you think I got Minstead as some sort of payback? 298 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,560 I dunno. 299 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,560 Long day. 300 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,559 Well, you did say I should've retired after the trial. 301 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,560 Quit while I was ahead. 302 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,560 Look, I get it, Hamish asked, you can't exactly say no. 303 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,560 But? 304 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,560 But... 305 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,559 ..I think you should critique what's wrong 306 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,559 and I think you should get out. The moment you start offering ideas, 307 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,559 you are sucked in on the worst terms. 308 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,560 You have all the responsibility and zero clout. 309 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,400 Then you will go down with the ship. 310 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,559 OK, I'll give you a call. 311 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,560 All right. I gotta go, bye. Bye. 312 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,599 A bit unorthodox, isn't it? 313 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,399 No, we often meet at the guvnor's house, 314 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,559 you know, on account of his back issues. 315 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,919 Did you chase up that Volvo I saw last night? 316 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,559 I did, yeah. 317 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,559 Turns out it was being driven by the head 318 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:00,559 of the local Neighbourhood Watch, a chap called Alan Wilson. 319 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,559 OK. 320 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,559 He operates a scheme where local residents' cars 321 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,559 are parked on the drives of would-be victims 322 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,399 who don't own cars themselves. 323 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,559 Oh, I see. What, to deter Minstead Man? 324 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,559 Yeah. That's ingenious. 325 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,559 Yeah, he was driving slowly cos he was looking for the right house 326 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,399 to park the Volvo and couldn't see the numbers in the dark. 327 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,560 Right. Lead on. 328 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,559 All right, Guv? Morning. 329 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,560 Morning. 330 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,560 Oh, morning, Nathan. 331 00:24:27,561 --> 00:24:30,559 It's custard creams or custard creams, I'm afraid. 332 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,560 Oh, well, in that case I'll have one of each. Thanks. 333 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Morning. 334 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,559 Ah, right, first off, we have a visitor. 335 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,559 DCI Colin Sutton will be joining us for a short while to see if 336 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,559 there are any missed opportunities that might help progress our case, 337 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,559 so please introduce yourselves afterwards 338 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,559 and assist him wherever possible. 339 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,759 Right. How're we getting on with the swabbing, Neville? 340 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,559 Crunching through the list. We had a non-cooperative yesterday. 341 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,079 What's your sense of him? 342 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,559 He's not Minstead Man, but we'll get a sample second time around. 343 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,559 Right. Good. We had a bit more luck 344 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,560 with an aerial fitter from Croydon. 345 00:25:07,561 --> 00:25:10,079 Bit more - we got his DNA, but no match. 346 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,559 Well, he's one off the list, isn't he? Good work. 347 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,559 I need to update you all on progress of Santiago University in Spain. 348 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,559 Their scientists are using cutting-edge tech 349 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,559 to establish the physical characteristics of Minstead Man 350 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,560 based on his DNA. 351 00:25:24,561 --> 00:25:26,559 Really? I didn't think that was possible. 352 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,559 Yeah. 353 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,559 By ascertaining genealogy, they'll be able to give us 354 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,560 a very clear idea as to his ancestry and country of origin. 355 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,559 Yeah, Adam? 356 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,919 Yeah, the, er, victim at Allenhall Road, Sandra Nelson, 357 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,599 had quite a bit of jewellery stolen. 358 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,559 Good news is that she, er, 359 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,239 had it all photographed for insurance purposes. 360 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:51,559 Now, I've got an informant who knows her way around 361 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,560 the local pawn shops. Her way? 362 00:25:52,561 --> 00:25:54,759 Yeah. Yeah. 363 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,559 Believe it or not, her name is, er, Diamanda. 364 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,559 If he tries to fence this stuff, she'll tell us. 365 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,400 Good. 366 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,559 Thanks for introducing me. 367 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:09,760 That's OK. No problem. 368 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,559 What if you didn't have his DNA? 369 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,559 What would your main lines of enquiry be then? 370 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,919 Well, the DNA is our key asset, Colin. 371 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,559 When we catch Minstead Man, and we will, 372 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,599 he's in the pool, isn't he? We'll have a cast-iron case. 373 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,559 But the priority list runs to 5,200 names, 374 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,919 and last week, you swabbed one person. 375 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,559 At that rate, it'll take hundreds of years to clear the list, 376 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,559 and even then, he might not be on it. 377 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:37,560 Oh, he's on that list, Colin, 378 00:26:37,561 --> 00:26:41,239 and we have active measures to shorten it considerably. 379 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,559 What, by prioritising satellite engineers and motorcyclists? 380 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,559 Two avenues of many. Yeah, but if you take... 381 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,559 We're running before we can walk here, Colin. 382 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,559 I saw first-hand how painful it is just trying to get one sample, 383 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,399 or not getting it, as it turned out. 384 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,559 We've got you an office where you can get your head down, 385 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,559 get across the material I've prepared. 386 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,559 If you have any questions, once you're up to speed, 387 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:03,720 I'll be happy to answer them. 388 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,559 Why don't you wanna talk to me? I am talking to you. 389 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,559 I get the feeling you're fobbing me off, that's all. 390 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,079 Oh, that's your interpretation. Yeah, it is. 391 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,559 My interpretation would be that I've been nothing but cooperative 392 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,079 and you're being a little paranoid. 393 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,559 I'm not here to do a box tick, seen-to-be-done review, Simon. 394 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,560 I'm here to help. 395 00:27:24,561 --> 00:27:27,559 I'm here because Hamish thinks that fresh eyes 396 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,079 might be useful at this point. 397 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,559 Yeah, I appreciate that. Do you? 398 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,240 I get the feeling you resent it. 399 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,239 Look, the truth is, Colin, 400 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,559 we've tried a ton of things over the years - 401 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,560 probably all the things you could think of and more. 402 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,559 You start contributing ideas, it's a slippery slope. 403 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,599 I mean, you need to be realistic. About what? 404 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:02,559 Well.. how long can you stick to diagnosing problems 405 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,559 without offering solutions? 406 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,560 Hmm? Friday? 407 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,559 Well, let's say I can resist that temptation 408 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,919 and I am in and out in a couple of weeks, there's no harm done. 409 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,560 No, no harm done. 410 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,559 It won't be much of a review, though, will it? 411 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:19,560 What are you saying? 412 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:26,559 I'm saying, if you worry about politics, retirement dates, 413 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,599 if you... 414 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,559 If you hold back and give this less than your all, you'll regret it. 415 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,559 Wow. OK. That's me told. 416 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,560 Especially when he offends again, which we both know he will. 417 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,559 Look, what are you more afraid of? 418 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,559 Not solving the case, or how that would damage your reputation? 419 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,559 Cos they've been after this bloke for 17 years, 420 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,560 so the odds can't be good. 421 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:10,560 Cheers, Dave. 422 00:29:10,561 --> 00:29:11,759 That's OK. 423 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,560 Thank you. No problem. 424 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,559 Right. PC, printer, 425 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,559 TV, VHS, phone. 426 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,919 You dial eight for an outside line. Don't ask me why it's not nine. 427 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,559 We march to the beat of our own drum round here. 428 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,559 Yeah, I'm beginning to get that impression. 429 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,559 Oh, and, of course, a lifetime's supply of stab vests. 430 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,560 I'm already wearing one, Kenny. 431 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,399 Excellent. Very good. 432 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,559 No, but, seriously, do you want me to get rid of them? 433 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,559 No, there's enough space. Anything else you need, let me know. 434 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,560 Thank you. 435 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,560 So, what was it? 436 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,559 Short straw? Owe someone a favour? 437 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,559 You seem like a good bloke, that's all. 438 00:29:58,560 --> 00:29:59,560 Can't see you holding your hand up 439 00:29:59,561 --> 00:30:02,559 to rake over another officer's case. 440 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,559 Pointless Review Number 56. 441 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,560 I'm a loyal soldier, Kenny - I do as I'm told. 442 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,559 I read my Maeve Binchy book for about half an hour, 443 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,240 and the next thing, I was woken by a noise... 444 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,560 ..and then I saw a figure at the end of the bed. 445 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,599 He was wearing a kind of boiler suit 446 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,560 and his face was hidden by a balaclava. 447 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,760 He shone a torch in my eyes, then covered my face with his hand. 448 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,600 I couldn't... breathe, I couldn't see. 449 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,560 I felt as if I was suffocating. 450 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,559 I told him my handbag 451 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,560 was in the living room, but it wasn't enough. 452 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,559 He grabbed me by the shoulders 453 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,560 and he pushed me on to the settee. 454 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,080 And then... 455 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,559 ..he climbed on top of me. 456 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,080 And when he finished... 457 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,560 ..he threw me a towel and told me to... clean up. 458 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,560 I sat there thinking, "This is it... 459 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,760 "this is the end of your life." 460 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,559 He told me to take my nightdress off 461 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,560 as there might be semen on it, and he put it in the sink to soak. 462 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:24,559 And then I had to have a lot of tests for various infections 463 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,560 that he might've... 464 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,920 ..passed-passed on to me. 465 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,760 I had to wait two weeks for the HIV test to come back. 466 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,560 I moved in with my son's family. 467 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,560 I had terrible nightmares. 468 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,759 My son would wake me up, 469 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,559 telling me I'd been shouting things out like, 470 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,560 "Keep off me, stay away from me." 471 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,559 It's outrageous - not just what he's done, 472 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:25,559 but how long he's got away with it. The phones on the units, 473 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,239 bulbs in the sink... I've never seen that before. 474 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,919 Thanks, love. Yeah, he's meticulous. 475 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,559 And unusual. It's gold dust to an analyst. 476 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,559 Go on. 477 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:42,239 You don't get this good without practise. I'd go back. 478 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,559 I'd trawl for the earliest cases that could be him 479 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,559 based on these traits, 480 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,559 and then I'd look for a schoolboy error 481 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,559 or a clue to his location. 482 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,559 What sort of clue? 483 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,560 I don't know, but how many criminals open their account close to home? 484 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,559 The minute he sets foot on these properties, he's in control. 485 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,560 It's his house. 486 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,559 Morning, Richard. 487 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,559 Morning, Colin. 488 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,239 Morning. 489 00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:52,759 Gentlemen. Oh, sir, 490 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,559 Nathan was just telling me 491 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,559 how you mistook Neighbourhood Watch Al for the Night Stalker. 492 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,560 Minstead Man, please. 493 00:34:58,561 --> 00:35:00,559 I'm never gonna live that one down, am I? 494 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,559 Some beginner's luck that would've been. 495 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,559 Well, you never know. Have we actually taken Al's DNA? 496 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,559 I think your list is long enough, don't you? Amen to that. 497 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,559 Could've been one longer this morning. Just knocked back 498 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,559 a possible Minstead offence referred by the local borough. 499 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,560 False alarm? 500 00:35:14,561 --> 00:35:16,559 Didn't have the key Minstead hallmarks 501 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,560 and the victim type was off - male and female. 502 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,919 Those hallmarks, are they written down anywhere? 503 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,559 Mm. Got a whole policy log on the subject. 504 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,560 Ping it over to me, will you? I'll stick it on the pile. 505 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,559 Are these all Minstead? 506 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,560 All Minstead. 507 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,079 I tried to do a HOLMES search relating to Minstead Man's DNA 508 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,559 and drew a blank. I couldn't find a single lab report. 509 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,079 Well, the, er, lab reports themselves aren't on the database, 510 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:30,559 but their existence is noted if you tailor your search accordingly. 511 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,559 Well, what's the use of that? 512 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,079 Well, every exhibit seized from a Minstead scene 513 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,559 is submitted to the lab with its Lab Form One, 514 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,559 but once the scientists work their magic, 515 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,560 they return the forms with their findings. 516 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,559 But the findings never get entered on HOLMES? 517 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:46,560 No. 518 00:36:46,561 --> 00:36:48,559 So the reports are basically un-searchable? 519 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,239 All of HOLMES' search features are redundant? 520 00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:54,559 Yep, to access any given file, you need to come down here 521 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,559 and go through the boxes manually. 522 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,239 Well, why, Neville? Why would you do it like that? 523 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,399 I had the same question when I joined. 524 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,759 And? Well, it's all about the numbers. 525 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,239 Too many offences, too much evidence, 526 00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,559 too few people to process it all. 527 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,559 Everything would just fall over if corners weren't cut. 528 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,559 Well, maybe it needs to fall over. 529 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,559 Well, no-one's happy about it, Colin. 530 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,559 There's just no alternative. 531 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,559 We haven't just got the proven Minstead scenes to deal with, 532 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,559 we've got all the break-ins local CID send our way 533 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,559 that could be him. It's literally hundreds of offences. 534 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,560 You are chronically understaffed, aren't you? 535 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,560 Yeah. 536 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,559 Nathan, that possible Minstead case the borough sent over, 537 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,559 when was that? 538 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,559 Last night. Colbridge Road in Bromley. 539 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,559 And what ruled it out, the victimology? 540 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,559 Yeah, a woman in her late 80s, her son in his 60s. 541 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,559 There's no record of our man targeting a home 542 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,559 with multiple occupants, and he always engages with his victims. 543 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,559 Right, and this offender didn't? No. 544 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,559 I wonder why the borough thought it was Minstead. 545 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:06,559 Erm... age of victims, time of the offence and location. 546 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,560 Well, it's worth running up the flagpole, isn't it? 547 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,559 Well, with respect to the screening criteria, 548 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,560 that is right in the heart of his hunting ground. 549 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,960 I'm just saying we could do worse than give it a second look. 550 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,560 Or I could go on my own, if it's easier. 551 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,560 No. 552 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,560 DC Jim Corgan, Bromley CID. Do you think it might be him, then? 553 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,560 Let's say we wanna make sure it isn't. 554 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,559 Several handbags belonging to the homeowner 555 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,240 were turned out on the table. 556 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,919 He's made a point of leaving the cash. 557 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,559 Doesn't sound like our boy, but I'm keeping an open mind. 558 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,559 Well, in a few hours, we might know definitively. 559 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,560 How so? Follow me. 560 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,559 This is Gavin Forbes, son of the homeowner. 561 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,559 He was asleep upstairs 562 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,559 at the time of the burglary. His mum's in hospital, 563 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,559 being treated for shock. Oh, good morning, Mr Forbes. 564 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,559 DI Nathan Eason, DCI Colin Sutton. 565 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,560 Tell 'em about the juice carton, Gavin. 566 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,559 When I got back from the hospital, 567 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,239 I went to get a glass of orange from the fridge. 568 00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:44,559 The carton was almost empty. 569 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,559 I only opened it last night, and my mum never touches the stuff. 570 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,560 What, and you think the intruder might've helped himself? 571 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,559 It's the only explanation. 572 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,559 Have we seen this before? 573 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,079 He normally goes for the beer. 574 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,559 He might've been driving. 575 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,559 The juice carton's being tested for DNA? As we speak. 576 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,399 If it's Minstead, you'll be the first to know. 577 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,559 Right. 578 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,559 Mr Forbes, I'm sorry to have to ask you to go through it again, 579 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,560 but from my experience, 580 00:40:10,561 --> 00:40:12,600 it's always best to hear these things first-hand. 581 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,760 About 6am, I heard a noise downstairs. 582 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,560 I thought it must be Mum, 583 00:40:20,561 --> 00:40:22,559 but she's not normally up before ten, 584 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,920 so I decided to go and check. 585 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,559 When I opened the door, I got the shock of my life - 586 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,599 about half a dozen pairs of shoes and boots 587 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,559 tumbled inwards on the floor. 588 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,559 Was it your shoes? From the rack downstairs. 589 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,559 He must've piled them halfway up the door. 590 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,559 I mean, why would he do that? 591 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,560 A DIY early warning system. That could be why he left the cash. 592 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,560 He was still in the house when I went down. 593 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,559 You said you're working on another case. Is it, erm... 594 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:57,559 It's-It's not that... bloke attacking old ladies? 595 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,560 The Night Stalker? 596 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,559 Yes, it is, I'm afraid. 597 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,759 Oh, Jesus. 598 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,239 What is it, Gavin? 599 00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:09,399 Mum's room is downstairs and, er, 600 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,560 she always sleeps with the door open. 601 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,559 What if he went in...? 602 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,079 Your mum said nothing to suggest any contact with the intruder. 603 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,239 She's in shock! She wouldn't admit it. 604 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,559 I mean, she wouldn't have the words. 605 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,559 Gavin, your mum's in the best possible hands at the hospital. 606 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,559 I know it's hard, but until we know more, 607 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,559 try not to torture yourself with what-ifs, OK? 608 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,559 OK. 609 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,559 Now, this shoe rack, I didn't see it when I came in. 610 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:38,560 It's by the back door. 611 00:41:38,561 --> 00:41:41,559 Does it get much use? All the time. 612 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,559 Mum's still very house-proud, 613 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,400 she won't have shoes cluttering the hall. 614 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,560 This still might not be Minstead Man. 615 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,399 What, no panes removed or ornaments lined up? 616 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,599 No bulbs removed either, or phone lines cut. 617 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,560 Yeah. 618 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,559 I read one of the profiles last night. 619 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,759 Yeah, which one? Er, Dr Pauline Rees. 620 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,559 Reed. Yeah. 621 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,559 She stressed how rare it is for an offender to spend so much time 622 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,559 just observing his victims. 623 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,559 Like any monetary gain was secondary to just watching them 624 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,400 go about their lives. 625 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,599 If he came from here to the back door, 626 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,559 he wouldn't see that shoe rack, would he? 627 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,240 But he knew it was there, didn't he? 628 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,239 Gavin said they use that every day. 629 00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:39,559 Yeah, he was watching. 630 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,559 From all these foot prints, he must've been here for a while. 631 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,559 One time, he waited so long, he did a number two under a tree. 632 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,560 Did he? I bet Dr Reed had a field day. 633 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,560 Let's figure out how he got in. 634 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,560 Looks like a dead end. Yeah. 635 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,240 Colin... any luck, we've got him on camera. 636 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,400 Coming and going. 637 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,559 I know it's a bit basic, but I'm using these coloured pins 638 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,599 to mark the locations and the era of the offences. 639 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,399 Numbered in sequence? Yeah. 640 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,559 Why, have you got something like it? 641 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,559 Yeah, one or two, and in colour. 642 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,759 Oh, well, there's nothing wrong with a bit of DIY, is there? 643 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,559 Plus it helps me to get my head round it all. 644 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,239 Orpington. I attended that one. 645 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,559 DNA on the orange carton is a 100% match for Minstead Man. 646 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,559 Colbridge Road is our case. And we've got him on camera, too. 647 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:20,920 Gavin said he was woken at six, so I started there. 648 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,560 Ah. 649 00:44:30,561 --> 00:44:33,559 Well, it confirms his route and the time he left, 650 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:34,560 but not much else. 651 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,560 He did show a bit more leg going in. 652 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,560 There you go. 653 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,559 That's nearly six hours earlier. 654 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,559 Can you freeze it on the best possible frame, Nathan? 655 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,559 Shame he's got his back to us. 656 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,559 Well, still, we've got a good idea of his weight and his height, 657 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,399 it lets us know he's got an athletic gait, 658 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,559 we know he walks to and from the scenes, 659 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,560 even if he's arriving by car. 660 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,559 We're gonna need to widen our screening criteria. 661 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,560 That means more offences. 662 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,559 Well, so be it. But you haven't got the manpower, 663 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,640 not when you're treating every offence like a murder. 664 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,559 Would this be a fair observation? 665 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,559 You're trying to make these offences fit the usual processes, 666 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,559 but they won't - they just won't - 667 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,560 and the effort of trying to force them to fit is killing you. 668 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,559 More than fair. 669 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,560 Then something's gotta change. 670 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,560 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 52927

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