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Guys, we got quite
the doozy today.
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Why do I say that? Well, because
that's what these shows are.
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They're doozies,
because our guests are amazing,
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and today's show
will be no different.
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My guest--
well, she's a Grammy-nominated,
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Billboard and MTV Video
Music Award-winning
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recording artist and actress.
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She's what I like to call
a triple threat.
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I'm honored
to have her here today.
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Meeting her for what
I would call my first time,
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which makes it more exciting.
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-Miley Cyrus. How are you?
-Hey.
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-What's up, Kevin Hart?
-How are you? Oh, Kevin Hart.
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-I like that. I like the...
-Full names.
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-Full name--
Miley Cyrus, Kevin Hart. -Yeah.
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-Yeah.
-Miley, before we get into anything,
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I got to give you
the description of what this is.
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-All right.
-Okay?
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I like the fact
that I'm taking a big risk
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and doing what hasn't really
been done, right?
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Talk shows.
Normally we go on them,
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we know what's gonna happen.
We know the questions
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they're gonna ask you,
you know the world
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of conversation,
you know what it's gonna be.
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-Mm-hmm.
-I'm taking a risk!
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-Yep.
-I don't want to talk before.
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I want to get to meet people,
get to know people.
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Taking risks?
That's kind of my specialty.
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-That's your specialty?
-Yeah.
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Well, then, that's what this is.
This is us
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having a conversation
for the first time.
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We're doing it here, and this
is a pun that's intended.
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We're gonna have ourselves
a "Hart to Heart."
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-Hey...
-Huh?
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Did you, did you zoom in
when I said that?
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that was a perfect...
I said we're gonna have
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a "Hart to Heart,"
and I did this.
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Hopefully you caught that.
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Uh, Miley, I also believe in
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drinking wine.
I think conversations
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get much better, uh,
when wine is involved.
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-I like it.
-So I hope that you like wine,
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-Yes, please.
-'cause that's what we do here.
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-Yes, please.
-Yes, please? All right, I've got a som.
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This is my-my som.
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-Hi, how's it going?
-Ms. Cyrus, how are you today?
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I'm doing great.
What's your name?
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-DLynn. Happy to pour
-Hey, nice to meet you.
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some amazing wines
and happy to meet you, as well.
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What do we have today?
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2015. Something with
a little bit of age on it.
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-Ooh!
-MILEY: Hey!
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-Old Vine Carignan.
-Give me a little bit of age.
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-Sexy.
-Yes, it is.
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I say "som"
because I struggle with the word
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-sommelier sometimes, so...
-Yeah. "Som."
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Som. Yeah.
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Well, I really respect you.
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That craft
and the time that it takes
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to become a som.
I watched a documentary
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-about it. This is intense.
-Thank you very much.
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-No, he's real.
-And a lot of purpose
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and your life is very dedicated
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to this craft and,
uh, I respect it.
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Thank you kindly. You're
absolutely gonna enjoy this.
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-Thank you.
-Okay. -Fresh pepper.
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Tobacco. Smoked meats.
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-Don't threaten me
with a good time! -Hey!
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-Little bit of black cherry.
-Don't threaten me with a good time!
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(stammers) I'm-a drink
the fresh pepper!
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-Right? Thank you.
-(laughs) Enjoy. Thank you.
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-Let's rock.
-Uh, cheers.
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-Cheers. Cheers.
-To you and I. Right?
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-Great conversation,
great dialogue. -I love it.
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I appreciate you doing this.
This is cool.
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Thank you. I like--
This is as big as my face.
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This is what I...
this is... this is great.
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-That's what you want
to drink out of. -Mm-hmm.
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Uh, Miley,
where do we start?
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First of all, I guess I got
to get you flowers first.
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A tremendous amount of respect
for you and your success.
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-Thank you.
-Your story, where you've come from,
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where you now are.
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I bow down to people
in the entertainment business
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that have done so much
and continue to do.
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I know it's, uh, a hard task.
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It's not one that's easy.
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Yeah, and you know, I think...
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Oh, fuck. I forgot my mic's
on my jacket. Sorry.
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-You got that comfortable
already. -That's okay. Yeah.
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-You got that comfortable...
-You al...
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-already.
-This what a cheap date I am.
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Do you know,
I took one sip of wine,
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-and I took my jacket off.
-Yes.
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I'm known for a lot of things.
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My class isn't always
one of them.
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Well, we will get into it.
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And I don't agree.
It is one of them.
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It has to be
one of them because...
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Self-deprecation
is also one of my things,
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you know what I mean?
I-I got...
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-I got, I got some class.
-I, um...
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But I also like
to put on a show.
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I know what people like to see.
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-Mm-hmm.
-I know what they don't like to see,
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and then they like to talk about
it for a long period of time.
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-Mm-hmm.
-And so that sometimes works for my advantage also.
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Well, I mean, look, I want
to start from the beginning
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because there's a lot
that I know
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and there's a lot
that I don't know.
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Right? The world of Disney
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and the success that you had
in that space is unreal,
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monumental, right,
when you had your show.
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I-I want to know
how that came about.
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Like, what-what was the road
to get there first,
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before-before we get
to where you are now,
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just talk to me about
the beginning stages, right?
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How-how do you get
the show that you got?
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Well, it's kind of
a funny story.
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I got cast for "Hannah Montana"
'cause I was 12.
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So, a couple of girls
that I knew
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that were on, you know,
going to school with me,
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and we were on
the same cheerleading team...
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-Mm-hmm.
-They were going to L.A.
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to audition for Disney,
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-Mm-hmm.
-and I begged my mom to let me go with them.
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-Okay.
-So I went across the country.
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My mom actually
wouldn't fly.
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My mom was terrified of flying.
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So we drove for three days
from Nashville to California.
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-You and...
you and your friends? -My mom, my grandma...
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So, well, here's the story.
So they went.
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I went with them.
I end up getting called back.
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-None of them got called back.
-Oh, wow.
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So they weren't super stoked
that I went along for the trip.
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Did that, did that affect
your friendship?
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I-- at that point--
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I was already going through
some bullying.
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-Wasn't really feeling
like I fit quite in. -Mm-hmm.
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Um, the arts
and kind of creative,
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you know, I guess community
surrounding me in Nashville,
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-it wasn't really
that strong, um... -Okay. Okay.
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I think a lot of people were
kind of more okay
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with just blending in,
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and I've always wanted
to stand out and be different
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and also be confrontational,
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and I guess kind of, um...
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just...
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I don't think I fit in,
in the small town that I was in.
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-Okay.
-And so...
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it did effect my friendships,
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but I think that was
kind of inevitable--
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that I was gonna kind of outgrow
my town at some point.
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Especially just because
of my political views
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or my religious views
and, um, yeah, kind of being...
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My-my granddad was
a Democratic state legislator,
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so we were always kind of,
like, very outspoken.
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Um, and so, yeah, it did kind of
affect my friendships.
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What's the... what's the town?
You say small town.
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-Nashville, Tennessee.
-Nashville.
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But I'm from a small area
called Thompson's Station.
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-Thompson's Station. Okay.
-Yeah, where my dad still lives
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on the same farm
that I grew up on.
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500 acres.
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Surrounded by just,
you know, land.
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When you talk about,
you know,
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the outgrowing side
of the small town,
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is there still love?
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Is there a love-hate
relationship?
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Is it just a hate relationship?
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-No.
-Like, what's your relationship with Thompson?
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I don't have a lot of, um...
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I don't have a lot of hate
in my heart
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-for kind of anything.
-I love that.
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-Mm-hmm. I like that.
-Hate in my heart.
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But, yeah, so my friends took me
to California.
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I auditioned.
I got called back.
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My mom wouldn't fly,
so we drove,
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um, and I went back
to California again.
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-Did another audition.
I got another callback. -You-you drove twice?
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I've driven
from Nashville to California
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so many times
'cause of my mother,
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-(chuckling)
-and I have five brothers and sisters,
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so we'd all pile in the car
with all of our dogs.
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Um, except I loved
when my grandma--
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rest in peace--
would take me,
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because she would
let me drink Pepsi,
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and I'm already super hyped
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and I wasn't allowed to have
any of that.
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By the-- when I sat down
on that plane,
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that was the first thing I did.
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I mean, if they would've
given me an IV of it,
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I would have taken it.
Like, I drank so much Pepsi.
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And then my grandma would
drop down, we'd go to the pier.
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We'd spend-- I spent a lot
of time with my grandma.
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My grandma,
who I have tattooed on my arm,
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ran my fan club
out of my little kitchen
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of my dressing room
my entire childhood.
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Signed every picture, unless
she liked the picture of me,
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then she kept it and framed it
and put it in her house.
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So, here-here's
the question, right?
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And this is,
this is the part where...
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I'm more curious than anything.
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You know, you-you say there's
a lot of back and forth,
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uh, with you
with the callbacks and stuff.
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You get the part for the show.
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The show ends up becoming a hit
and success that it is.
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Well, actually...
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they hired someone else.
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They didn't hire me because...
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So I got called back,
called back, called back,
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and then they said I was
too small, too young.
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I had, I literally had,
like, four teeth.
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I'm from Nashville. That's,
like, kind of a normal thing.
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-(laughing)
-But I really only had four teeth,
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and on those four teeth
were braces.
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And I remember coming back
for the callback--
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somehow I lost, like...
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Give me a real number
of teeth. Like...
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-give me a real number, Miley.
-Dude, I don't know
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if you put up pictures
in the show.
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When I show you a picture--
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I had four teeth,
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and the four teeth I did have
had braces on them.
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-Okay. All right.
-But... I don't know
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if you've ever seen
clear braces.
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-Don't do it,
because they just looked nasty. -(laughing)
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And my mom was like,
"We have to get the clear ones,
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"because you're doing
all these callbacks
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"and no one wants
to see Hannah Montana
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with big brackets
on her teeth."
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So she got me the clear ones,
but they were disgusting.
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After all those Pepsis
with my grandma,
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they were, like, brown.
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And so then I showed up with,
like, yeah, with my four teeth.
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And I remember them looking
at me, like, "What happened?"
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-(laughing)
-You know, kids, you're just changing so much.
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And, like,
every time I would come back,
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something new
would have changed.
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Like, now I've got,
like, cystic acne
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-'cause I'm growing...
It kept getting kind of worse. -(laughing)
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Um, and so then
they hired someone else.
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They shot a pilot.
245
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They went and showed the pilot
to a bunch of kids, and...
246
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How long were you going back?
So, um...
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From the time I was, uh,
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probably, like,
ten, ten-and-a-half,
249
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and I booked it when I was 12.
250
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-So between two years...
-Two years of auditioning?
251
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-Two years of auditioning.
-Miley, are you kidding me?
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And not getting the part.
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And then they showed it
to these, you know,
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they showed it to kids.
They'll do those, like,
255
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kind of screenings
and see if people are resonating
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and relating to the characters.
257
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So, the show was in development
for two-and-a-half years?
258
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-Yeah. And forth.
-While you were going back... Wow.
259
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Kind of like a... almost
like a "Ferris Bueller,"
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like, "Max's Big Day Off."
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So I thought for sure
I had got the role.
262
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-Mm-hmm.
-So I kind of started, like,
263
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wreaking havoc at my school
264
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because I thought I was
never gonna have to go back.
265
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-(laughing)
-And so, finally, I was like, you know what,
266
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I'm just gonna go crazy.
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All... I had, like, honestly,
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I had like six boyfriends,
like, I was like,
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I'm just gonna, like,
figure all this out.
270
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Then they didn't cast me.
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And then I was stuck.
Everyone, like...
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I had just turned everyone
kind of against me.
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At that point...
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I was trying to
basically just make out
275
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with everyone
that was at my school.
276
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-(laughing)
-And I remember I had gone to Canada,
277
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and someone had explained to me
what French kissing was.
278
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And I came back and
I told the whole class,
279
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"Guess what I learned
while I was in Canada."
280
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And, like, I could tell, like,
all the teachers were like,
281
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"Oh, this is gonna be great,
What did you learn
282
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while you were traveling
outside of the country?"
283
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I was like, "I learned
how to French kiss."
284
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And then I wanted to show
this girl that was in my class,
285
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and she went with it.
286
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And then I got
in-school suspension,
287
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which they put me in this,
like...
288
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I don't know if you're allowed
to humiliate kids
289
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-at school anymore.
-No, you're not.
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-You're not supposed to...
-There was, like, a glass room where there was,
291
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like, in-school suspension,
and I was...
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I hold the record to be
the youngest child
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to ever get suspended
in my school.
294
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* Dun, da, da, da. *
295
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-By the way, are you proud?
-Yeah.
296
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* *
297
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When you say... All right,
there's this rebel in you.
298
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There's this thing
that you have.
299
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And you're aware of it.
You're not blind to it.
300
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You're like,
"Look, I was... I was...
301
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"I was a wild kid.
I was a bad kid.
302
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At this point,
I was doing 'X,' 'Y,' 'Z.'"
303
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Where do you think it came from?
304
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Um...
305
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Probably my dad's mother.
306
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-Okay.
-Who, um, basically...
307
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Yeah, she just-just lived.
308
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-We'll just leave it
at "She lived." -Okay.
309
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And she drives a lawn mower
310
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like it's a car.
311
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-Okay.
-Because she's not allowed to drive
312
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because she's had
a lot of, like...
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-She likes to drink
some alcohol. -Yeah, she had
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-some trouble.
-So, we took her...
315
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-She had some DUI trouble.
-They took her license,
316
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but she's like,
317
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"You don't need a license
to drive a lawn mower."
318
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(chuckles): So she takes
the lawn mower everywhere.
319
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She is usually in little, like,
white booty shorts,
320
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which no one wants
to see their grandma in.
321
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But, like, I... But love her.
322
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And she wears these, like,
Looney Tunes shoes,
323
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and-- which is very fitting--
324
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and she drives a lawn mower
like a vehicle.
325
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And y-you're... But you're...
You couldn't be happier.
326
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-You couldn't be ha...
-Yeah. And she has all white hair
327
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but, like, fire red eyebrows.
328
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-And she only uses... (chuckles)
-(laughing)
329
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She uses
330
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the same...
She's used the same nail polish
331
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her whole life,
which is periwinkle.
332
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And, uh, last time...
333
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The one thing that was kind of
really good during quarantine
334
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was I went and spent
a lot of time with my family,
335
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-and I learned a lot of things.
-Mm-hmm.
336
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Like, I never noticed
337
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the periwinkle nail polish,
and there was a whole story.
338
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And, so, I...
I think a lot of us, like...
339
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I mean, some of us
were keeping our distance,
340
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but we kind of isolated
on this farm, which is my dad...
341
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My dad's been isolating
on his farm since 1992,
342
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and he kept looking at us going,
"Isn't this great?
343
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I've been telling you guys."
344
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Like, you know,
social distancing?
345
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My dad's been social distancing.
346
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-He's been isolating.
-He's been... He's been living a...
347
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-He's been in quarantine.
-...a life of quarantine
348
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-for a long time.
-Yeah.
349
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-Yeah.
-So, all right.
350
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So, then you get the...
You get the fucking show.
351
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Like, you get the show.
352
00:13:00,155 --> 00:13:02,445
Now that you got the show,
you know, this-this...
353
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the rebel that once was
354
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back here in Tennessee,
well, you can't...
355
00:13:07,746 --> 00:13:09,906
-You can't give
that presentation to them. -Yeah.
356
00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:13,456
But I was also...
So, as much as I was a rebel,
357
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I also...
358
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I think there was...
359
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I never did anything,
even as a child,
360
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-to intentionally hurt anyone.
-Got you.
361
00:13:22,177 --> 00:13:23,757
-Got you. Mm-hmm.
-You know? So my rebellion...
362
00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:26,143
Except the boys. Fuck the boys.
363
00:13:26,181 --> 00:13:28,391
-You know what I'm saying?
These boys... -Okay. They're stupid boys.
364
00:13:28,433 --> 00:13:31,563
Yeah, these boys,
they-they deserved it.
365
00:13:31,603 --> 00:13:32,983
But not... I mean...
366
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I wouldn't have been...
Like, it's not all boys.
367
00:13:35,065 --> 00:13:36,935
Oh, it was a whole thing.
Well, one of them told me
368
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that there was a rumor
going around,
369
00:13:38,985 --> 00:13:40,445
which now I take
as a compliment.
370
00:13:40,487 --> 00:13:42,277
They said that he only wanted
to be my boyfriend
371
00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:44,452
'cause he knew one day,
I was gonna be a big star.
372
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But I didn't even know.
And my... Because I always had
373
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a really low, raspy voice,
my drama teacher
374
00:13:50,997 --> 00:13:53,287
-would only... (groans)
-(laughing)
375
00:13:53,333 --> 00:13:56,423
...would only--
who I do hope is watching--
376
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would only hire me as, like,
some old man.
377
00:14:01,091 --> 00:14:02,341
Like, I was always,
378
00:14:02,384 --> 00:14:04,804
like, the fisherman
with two lines,
379
00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:06,144
where I would be like,
380
00:14:06,179 --> 00:14:07,969
"Hello."
Like, "Welcome to my boat."
381
00:14:08,014 --> 00:14:09,474
Or, like, something weird.
382
00:14:09,516 --> 00:14:13,306
And, so, yeah,
she-she had it out for me,
383
00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:16,063
and so she... Yeah, she made me,
like, the old, hairy man
384
00:14:16,106 --> 00:14:18,646
in, like,
every friggin' play that we had.
385
00:14:18,692 --> 00:14:21,152
Um, her son
386
00:14:21,194 --> 00:14:23,744
was one of the boyfriends
that I was cheating on,
387
00:14:23,780 --> 00:14:25,910
-so I got my revenge.
-News to you. Who got the last laugh?
388
00:14:25,949 --> 00:14:27,199
-Yeah, I got...
-Huh?
389
00:14:27,242 --> 00:14:29,242
I got my revenge.
But, anyways, so then,
390
00:14:29,285 --> 00:14:31,325
no one really knew that I was
really gonna do anything
391
00:14:31,371 --> 00:14:34,081
because she never
really let me shine.
392
00:14:34,124 --> 00:14:37,594
-Got you.
-Except for one play, I...
393
00:14:37,627 --> 00:14:40,207
We all got to write, like,
our own monologue,
394
00:14:40,255 --> 00:14:42,505
and I did a...
I wrote a monologue
395
00:14:42,549 --> 00:14:45,469
about, like, metamorphosis,
about, like, evolving
396
00:14:45,510 --> 00:14:47,350
from a caterpillar
into a butterfly.
397
00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:49,597
And I came dressed as the
butterfly and the whole thing.
398
00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:52,179
And everyone started crying,
because it was like...
399
00:14:52,225 --> 00:14:53,845
I think it was...
It was really...
400
00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:55,273
It wasn't really
about the butterflies.
401
00:14:55,311 --> 00:14:56,941
It was about everyone
that I could see,
402
00:14:56,980 --> 00:14:58,190
and I could see, like,
the potential
403
00:14:58,231 --> 00:14:59,571
-in my class, and, like...
-Oh, wow.
404
00:14:59,607 --> 00:15:01,147
-I could also...
-I thought you were gonna say
405
00:15:01,192 --> 00:15:02,612
-it was about you.
-I mean, it was about me,
406
00:15:02,652 --> 00:15:05,032
but it was also, like,
I feel like that's a...
407
00:15:05,071 --> 00:15:07,201
I really...
408
00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,330
Something
that's really important to me
409
00:15:09,367 --> 00:15:11,077
is helping other people find
410
00:15:11,119 --> 00:15:13,199
-their fullest potential, also.
-Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
411
00:15:13,246 --> 00:15:15,366
Um, but that's something
in my adult life
412
00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:18,125
that I've also had
to detach from slightly
413
00:15:18,168 --> 00:15:20,128
because sometimes,
you can see something
414
00:15:20,170 --> 00:15:21,880
in someone
that they can't always see
415
00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:23,381
-in themselves.
-That they can't see in themselves. Yeah.
416
00:15:23,423 --> 00:15:24,883
And so it can be
very frustrating.
417
00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:26,384
And so you have to...
418
00:15:26,426 --> 00:15:28,466
come from a place
of love and support
419
00:15:28,511 --> 00:15:30,561
but not in a place of,
"Well, look what I've done.
420
00:15:30,597 --> 00:15:33,177
If you follow..."
It's like, everyone's gonna find
421
00:15:33,224 --> 00:15:36,144
their own place
at their own time,
422
00:15:36,186 --> 00:15:38,186
-and...
-I just had this same conversation
423
00:15:38,229 --> 00:15:40,149
-two weeks ago.
-It's so...
424
00:15:40,190 --> 00:15:41,400
-With?
-I swear to God.
425
00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:43,941
I-I just had
the same conversation
426
00:15:43,985 --> 00:15:45,985
with Will Smith two weeks ago,
427
00:15:46,029 --> 00:15:48,109
and Will Smith was talking to me
428
00:15:48,156 --> 00:15:51,526
about, uh, giving advice.
429
00:15:51,576 --> 00:15:54,156
-Mm-hmm.
-And how he's now learned
430
00:15:54,204 --> 00:15:57,754
that the way
that he used to give advice
431
00:15:57,791 --> 00:16:00,001
was coming from such a arrogant,
432
00:16:00,043 --> 00:16:03,673
-uh, and cocky perspective of...
-Mm-hmm.
433
00:16:03,713 --> 00:16:06,473
-I try to avoid advice.
-He-he was saying, like,
434
00:16:06,508 --> 00:16:08,888
"I-I basically was giving advice
to say,
435
00:16:08,927 --> 00:16:12,257
-'Here's how I've done it,
and now you can do it, too.'" -Mm-hmm.
436
00:16:12,305 --> 00:16:13,595
Which is ultimately saying,
437
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,180
"You can do this
and then become me."
438
00:16:16,226 --> 00:16:17,596
And when he said it,
439
00:16:17,644 --> 00:16:19,314
a light bulb went off to me
in that time,
440
00:16:19,354 --> 00:16:20,614
and I was like, "Damn."
441
00:16:20,647 --> 00:16:22,107
You know,
I'm guilty of the same thing.
442
00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:23,728
Like,
we had a real conversation,
443
00:16:23,775 --> 00:16:25,605
-and it's all information now.
-I think... I think living
444
00:16:25,652 --> 00:16:27,322
without expectations
445
00:16:27,362 --> 00:16:30,872
and knowing that no one
446
00:16:30,907 --> 00:16:33,697
-owes you anything...
-Mm-hmm.
447
00:16:33,743 --> 00:16:37,753
That's been something
that has just changed
448
00:16:37,789 --> 00:16:41,839
the way that I'm able
449
00:16:41,876 --> 00:16:43,246
to express my compassion.
450
00:16:43,294 --> 00:16:44,804
I mean, I've lived, like,
451
00:16:44,838 --> 00:16:46,548
-so many lives.
We really all have. -Yeah.
452
00:16:46,589 --> 00:16:48,129
-You know? Like, I feel...
-In different stages.
453
00:16:48,174 --> 00:16:49,634
-Different stages in life.
-Everyone lives
454
00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:51,926
in such these, like, you know...
in these chapters.
455
00:16:51,970 --> 00:16:55,680
And sometimes, when you look
at someone that you've been,
456
00:16:55,724 --> 00:16:57,484
it can almost feel
like you're looking
457
00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:00,557
at someone that you don't know
at all, 'cause my life
458
00:17:00,603 --> 00:17:01,813
is so...
459
00:17:01,855 --> 00:17:03,975
I cannot believe it's my own.
460
00:17:04,024 --> 00:17:07,284
I truly believe I'm one
of the luckiest fucking people.
461
00:17:07,318 --> 00:17:09,648
I'm sitting with you in a
castle, drinking wine, laughing.
462
00:17:09,696 --> 00:17:12,736
Everyone here is so amazing
for putting this together,
463
00:17:12,782 --> 00:17:15,082
and I get to talk about my life.
464
00:17:15,118 --> 00:17:16,448
And, like, my life is...
465
00:17:16,494 --> 00:17:18,584
I cannot believe it's mine.
I feel so lucky.
466
00:17:18,621 --> 00:17:20,501
So I have a hard time admitting
467
00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:23,000
that I maybe need help
balancing something
468
00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:24,423
because I'm overwhelmed
469
00:17:24,461 --> 00:17:27,091
because I feel guilty
about being overwhelmed.
470
00:17:27,130 --> 00:17:31,380
Because how dare I
for a second feel...
471
00:17:32,302 --> 00:17:34,182
...you know, I guess, some sort
472
00:17:34,220 --> 00:17:37,970
of hurt or fear, because...
Almost like I don't deserve it.
473
00:17:38,016 --> 00:17:40,306
But I also...
474
00:17:40,352 --> 00:17:43,062
have become much more
475
00:17:43,104 --> 00:17:44,814
fluid and flexible
476
00:17:44,856 --> 00:17:48,776
and way less concrete in this...
in my sense of self.
477
00:17:48,818 --> 00:17:51,738
And I...
478
00:17:51,780 --> 00:17:56,410
don't really have
a definite sense of who I am.
479
00:18:13,677 --> 00:18:16,387
You said, like, sometimes,
you feel... you feel guilty.
480
00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:19,349
-Mm-hmm.
-Like, you know, "Oh, my God. I have this life.
481
00:18:19,391 --> 00:18:21,141
"I have this-this thing
482
00:18:21,184 --> 00:18:23,404
"and all of these things,
and I'm so lucky.
483
00:18:23,436 --> 00:18:27,356
Sometimes I feel bad
about feeling a certain way."
484
00:18:27,399 --> 00:18:31,359
I wonder why you feel guilty
about that
485
00:18:31,403 --> 00:18:34,663
when, yes,
you-you can attach luck to it.
486
00:18:34,698 --> 00:18:38,448
Let's not... Let's not...
Let's not attach luck,
487
00:18:38,493 --> 00:18:41,083
-because, of course,
there is some luck. -Mm-hmm.
488
00:18:41,121 --> 00:18:42,661
But you just got finished
talking to me
489
00:18:42,706 --> 00:18:46,536
about, uh, a consistent drive
from Nashville to L.A.
490
00:18:46,584 --> 00:18:48,044
-That's not luck.
-Mm-hmm.
491
00:18:48,086 --> 00:18:50,296
But, I mean, even when
we started this conversation
492
00:18:50,338 --> 00:18:52,468
and you said, like,
"I'm really interested
493
00:18:52,507 --> 00:18:54,797
in talking to people
that started..."
494
00:18:54,843 --> 00:18:56,143
You said something like,
495
00:18:56,177 --> 00:18:57,677
"Started at the bottom
and now...
496
00:18:57,721 --> 00:18:59,391
-and-and made it" or something.
-Absolutely.
497
00:18:59,431 --> 00:19:01,311
I really had a hard time
with that, because my brain
498
00:19:01,349 --> 00:19:03,689
goes, "You wouldn't know
what that is.
499
00:19:03,727 --> 00:19:05,227
-You wouldn't know
what that's like." -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
500
00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:07,860
-And, again, I think...
-Wait, you say
501
00:19:07,897 --> 00:19:10,397
-your brain goes,
as in the person... -My brain tells myself
502
00:19:10,442 --> 00:19:12,902
that I don't deserve
that statement.
503
00:19:12,944 --> 00:19:14,574
-Why?
-Uh, because...
504
00:19:14,612 --> 00:19:18,702
I'm working on this,
but because I feel that...
505
00:19:18,742 --> 00:19:21,082
I think that I've got...
506
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,409
I-I know. I don't think. I know
507
00:19:23,455 --> 00:19:27,375
that if I took that moment
to reprogram,
508
00:19:27,417 --> 00:19:29,087
which I'm doing now,
509
00:19:29,127 --> 00:19:31,167
to have a moment of gratitude
510
00:19:31,212 --> 00:19:34,842
that says, like, I...
511
00:19:34,883 --> 00:19:36,473
One, my parents.
512
00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:39,009
My mom got in the car
513
00:19:39,054 --> 00:19:42,144
-and drove her child
for three days out of love. -Mm-hmm.
514
00:19:42,182 --> 00:19:44,272
Not to be famous.
Not for me to be rich.
515
00:19:44,309 --> 00:19:45,729
-Not for me to take care of her.
-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
516
00:19:45,769 --> 00:19:48,099
For me to do what I love,
my mom got in the car
517
00:19:48,146 --> 00:19:50,266
and would drive me across
the country for three days.
518
00:19:50,315 --> 00:19:52,275
And then all my siblings
picked up.
519
00:19:52,317 --> 00:19:53,687
Not only did I have to transfer
520
00:19:53,735 --> 00:19:55,315
and leave my school
and leave my friends.
521
00:19:55,362 --> 00:19:57,862
All my siblings
did the exact same thing for me,
522
00:19:57,906 --> 00:20:00,026
for their sister
to go live their dream.
523
00:20:00,075 --> 00:20:01,485
-Mm-hmm.
-And my dad,
524
00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:04,754
who was kicking and screaming
525
00:20:04,788 --> 00:20:06,368
the whole time
until he got hired.
526
00:20:06,414 --> 00:20:08,294
Then he's like,
"We're going to California!"
527
00:20:08,333 --> 00:20:10,543
But the whole time,
he was always like,
528
00:20:10,585 --> 00:20:11,955
"I'm not leaving this farm.
529
00:20:12,003 --> 00:20:13,803
I..." And, you know,
and then he's also...
530
00:20:13,838 --> 00:20:16,128
He told me,
"This is gonna be a heartbreak.
531
00:20:16,174 --> 00:20:17,974
"Like, you are gonna get
so many doors
532
00:20:18,009 --> 00:20:19,299
"slammed in your face.
533
00:20:19,344 --> 00:20:21,014
You are gonna have
so much pressure."
534
00:20:21,054 --> 00:20:22,394
And I think that was just him
535
00:20:22,430 --> 00:20:24,140
trying to really protect me,
but, again,
536
00:20:24,182 --> 00:20:25,852
he went with it,
my whole family, so...
537
00:20:25,892 --> 00:20:30,272
I think if I took that moment
to just acknowledge,
538
00:20:30,313 --> 00:20:33,073
"You're right, you know?
Kevin just appreciated
539
00:20:33,108 --> 00:20:36,188
that you worked really hard."
And that means a lot.
540
00:20:36,236 --> 00:20:40,366
And then, also,
on top of that, the...
541
00:20:40,407 --> 00:20:44,987
like, miraculous truth
542
00:20:45,036 --> 00:20:48,326
that my family,
out of all the families
543
00:20:48,373 --> 00:20:51,083
that I could have
come from the heavens
544
00:20:51,126 --> 00:20:52,876
and been a part of
545
00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:54,499
is the one that I have.
546
00:20:54,546 --> 00:20:56,126
-Mm-hmm.
-And it happens to be
547
00:20:56,172 --> 00:20:58,092
a dad who...
548
00:20:58,133 --> 00:21:00,343
Our jukebox was just filled
549
00:21:00,385 --> 00:21:02,845
with
female rock and roll singers,
550
00:21:02,887 --> 00:21:04,257
-blues singers.
-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
551
00:21:04,305 --> 00:21:07,225
My dad... I hated Etta James
552
00:21:07,267 --> 00:21:08,687
by the time
"Hannah Montana" was over
553
00:21:08,727 --> 00:21:11,347
because my dad played it
every single day.
554
00:21:11,396 --> 00:21:14,396
-Mm-hmm.
-And Stevie Nicks and Joan
555
00:21:14,441 --> 00:21:18,781
and, you know. So my dad,
he celebrated women.
556
00:21:18,820 --> 00:21:22,200
He celebrated...
I think that's why I'm so,
557
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,950
um, kind of steadfast
in the idea of what I want,
558
00:21:24,993 --> 00:21:27,003
is 'cause dad
showed me Janis Joplin.
559
00:21:27,037 --> 00:21:30,247
My dad would, you know,
watch Debbie Harry.
560
00:21:30,290 --> 00:21:32,000
And so I have this, like, father
561
00:21:32,042 --> 00:21:34,882
who never told me,
"Don't pick up a guitar."
562
00:21:34,919 --> 00:21:37,049
-You know, "Go grab
ballet slippers or something." -Mm-hmm.
563
00:21:37,088 --> 00:21:39,128
-Mm-hmm.
-He always said, "Go pick up the electric guitar."
564
00:21:39,174 --> 00:21:41,514
My dad's left-handed. He'd had
me playing an upside-down guitar
565
00:21:41,551 --> 00:21:44,431
-for my whole life,
but that's just very much us. -(chuckles)
566
00:21:44,471 --> 00:21:47,971
And then my... mom, who...
567
00:21:48,016 --> 00:21:49,806
Anything I wanted to try,
568
00:21:49,851 --> 00:21:51,811
-like, she never judged me.
-Mm-hmm.
569
00:21:51,853 --> 00:21:54,943
She watched me, you know,
bounce off my head
570
00:21:54,981 --> 00:21:56,731
while trying to do
back handsprings,
571
00:21:56,775 --> 00:21:58,355
and she took me to go
to all my...
572
00:21:58,401 --> 00:22:01,071
My mom was just so dedicated
to her kids.
573
00:22:01,112 --> 00:22:02,572
And-and there was five of us,
574
00:22:02,614 --> 00:22:04,574
so she did that equally
for all of us.
575
00:22:04,616 --> 00:22:06,526
My siblings were so selfless.
576
00:22:06,576 --> 00:22:09,036
Like, if I could've just taken
that moment of...
577
00:22:09,079 --> 00:22:10,709
to have gratitude instead,
578
00:22:10,747 --> 00:22:12,667
it would've changed
the whole conversation.
579
00:22:12,707 --> 00:22:14,627
I'm gonna tell you something.
580
00:22:14,668 --> 00:22:16,918
First of all,
I'm-I'm no therapist.
581
00:22:16,961 --> 00:22:19,091
Okay? Not in any way,
shape or form.
582
00:22:19,130 --> 00:22:21,880
But I'm... From listening to
you, there's a lot of self-work.
583
00:22:21,925 --> 00:22:24,585
There's a lot
of self-evolvement.
584
00:22:24,636 --> 00:22:26,966
Like, there's...
And I can-I can-I can hear it.
585
00:22:27,013 --> 00:22:28,353
I can see it.
586
00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:30,020
I'm not a spiritual guy.
587
00:22:30,058 --> 00:22:32,518
-I'm not, like,
overly spiritual. -Mm.
588
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,060
I believe that...
589
00:22:34,104 --> 00:22:37,774
stars could possibly be...
590
00:22:37,816 --> 00:22:39,106
picked.
591
00:22:39,150 --> 00:22:42,450
You could possibly be picked
from the gate.
592
00:22:42,487 --> 00:22:44,107
When you first talked to me,
you talked to me
593
00:22:44,155 --> 00:22:46,615
about a small town.
You're talking about a farm.
594
00:22:46,658 --> 00:22:48,908
-And you're talking
about "I outgrew." -Mm-hmm.
595
00:22:48,952 --> 00:22:50,952
It was... it was already a
thing. It was...
596
00:22:50,995 --> 00:22:52,745
"It just wasn't for me.
I was..."
597
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:54,619
It was in you
from the beginning.
598
00:22:54,666 --> 00:22:57,286
-Mm.
-Whether you... whether you felt it or not.
599
00:22:57,335 --> 00:22:59,455
I wish I could sit up here
and say
600
00:22:59,504 --> 00:23:01,424
I didn't have
star-like qualities as a child.
601
00:23:01,464 --> 00:23:03,884
-I'm not being cocky.
-Mm.
602
00:23:03,925 --> 00:23:07,215
But I'm telling you,
as a young kid, I had it.
603
00:23:07,262 --> 00:23:09,142
-Mm-hmm.
-I had it.
604
00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:10,770
At a... at a event
605
00:23:10,807 --> 00:23:14,307
when my swim team was giving out
awards and trophies,
606
00:23:14,352 --> 00:23:16,232
-I was the worst swimmer.
-(chuckles)
607
00:23:16,271 --> 00:23:17,771
I never practiced or nothing.
608
00:23:17,814 --> 00:23:19,824
But I chose the banquet...
609
00:23:19,858 --> 00:23:21,358
When we're supposed to come up
and say thank yous,
610
00:23:21,401 --> 00:23:24,321
I did a monologue that was
basically a comedy routine.
611
00:23:24,362 --> 00:23:25,862
-It wasn't written.
-Yeah. Yeah.
612
00:23:25,905 --> 00:23:27,775
It was off the top. Everybody's
falling out their seats.
613
00:23:27,824 --> 00:23:30,244
-Yeah.
-When I look back at that moment now, oh, my God.
614
00:23:30,285 --> 00:23:33,325
-Yeah.
-It was always in me to be a comedian.
615
00:23:33,371 --> 00:23:35,871
-Mm.
-The road to discovery of how I was gonna do it,
616
00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:37,915
well, that was one that...
you know, it kind of...
617
00:23:37,959 --> 00:23:39,589
it kind of mapped out
the way it was.
618
00:23:39,627 --> 00:23:40,997
-But I was chosen.
-Yeah.
619
00:23:41,046 --> 00:23:45,046
-That's not luck.
-And I feel that my...
620
00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:47,341
You know,
like we were talking to...
621
00:23:47,385 --> 00:23:49,595
you know,
about being a sommelier
622
00:23:49,637 --> 00:23:51,887
or anything you want to become,
my diligence...
623
00:23:51,931 --> 00:23:55,061
And I know that my diligence
and my efforts
624
00:23:55,101 --> 00:23:57,151
and my dedication
625
00:23:57,187 --> 00:24:00,857
is what really got me
into the position that I'm in
626
00:24:00,899 --> 00:24:03,319
-and it... what keeps me here.
-Mm-hmm. Mm.
627
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:05,570
* *
628
00:24:14,412 --> 00:24:16,662
* *
629
00:24:19,584 --> 00:24:21,804
When we talked
about that rebellion--
630
00:24:21,836 --> 00:24:23,046
I think a lot of the rebellion--
631
00:24:23,088 --> 00:24:24,298
I actually feel
like I wasn't able
632
00:24:24,339 --> 00:24:25,839
because I was so in my head.
633
00:24:25,882 --> 00:24:27,722
Now I feel like I can articulate
it better than I could
634
00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:29,049
when we started...
635
00:24:29,094 --> 00:24:31,224
was the rebellion
also was coming as a...
636
00:24:31,262 --> 00:24:34,222
to me, as a form
of entertainment for my class
637
00:24:34,265 --> 00:24:35,555
and for my friends.
638
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,770
I mean, when I was, like,
you know, again...
639
00:24:39,604 --> 00:24:41,064
Who I am... It's so funny,
640
00:24:41,106 --> 00:24:43,436
because we just talked so much
about evolution--
641
00:24:43,483 --> 00:24:46,903
who I am sitting in this chair
642
00:24:46,945 --> 00:24:50,025
is almost exactly who
was sitting in that chair
643
00:24:50,073 --> 00:24:52,243
-in the classroom with the...
spitting out the notes. -So dope.
644
00:24:52,283 --> 00:24:56,373
-So dope.
-But also completely fucking whole-r.
645
00:24:56,413 --> 00:24:58,753
Like, I'm also so different.
646
00:24:58,790 --> 00:25:00,830
-Mm-hmm.
-And, for me,
647
00:25:00,875 --> 00:25:03,915
because...
there was so much focus
648
00:25:03,962 --> 00:25:06,592
on who I... who I was at a time,
649
00:25:06,631 --> 00:25:08,261
which was a character,
650
00:25:08,299 --> 00:25:11,719
um, and there were... again,
a lot of my-my value as a human
651
00:25:11,761 --> 00:25:13,761
was chalked up to that,
you know,
652
00:25:13,805 --> 00:25:15,425
to Hannah Montana,
to that identity.
653
00:25:15,473 --> 00:25:17,183
So, I got cast at 12 years old,
654
00:25:17,225 --> 00:25:20,685
and that's obviously just
the spongiest,
655
00:25:20,729 --> 00:25:22,939
most absorbent time
in your life
656
00:25:22,981 --> 00:25:26,231
and, again,
a-a time of just self-discovery
657
00:25:26,276 --> 00:25:29,026
and there's just so many things
that are happening and changing
658
00:25:29,070 --> 00:25:31,570
and just, you know... Again,
I have five brothers and sisters
659
00:25:31,614 --> 00:25:34,834
and they're growing up and
we're figuring out our dynamic.
660
00:25:34,868 --> 00:25:37,658
And, um, you know,
the concept of the show
661
00:25:37,704 --> 00:25:41,674
is that when I would alter
my image
662
00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:43,788
and I would put on a wig
and I would,
663
00:25:43,835 --> 00:25:45,795
you know, put on sparkly things,
664
00:25:45,837 --> 00:25:49,297
-that I held a new value...
-Mm-hmm.
665
00:25:49,341 --> 00:25:50,631
...that I was valuable.
666
00:25:50,675 --> 00:25:53,135
Um, it did translate
into my real life.
667
00:25:53,178 --> 00:25:55,008
There was...
668
00:25:56,431 --> 00:25:58,851
...a different level of, like,
669
00:25:58,892 --> 00:26:00,642
hysteria when Hannah Mon...
670
00:26:00,685 --> 00:26:02,805
I mean, it was actually kind of
crazy being Hannah Montana.
671
00:26:02,854 --> 00:26:04,654
Now I have a hard time
remembering
672
00:26:04,689 --> 00:26:07,319
exactly what that felt like,
but, um,
673
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,899
there was, you know,
the way that kids would react
674
00:26:10,945 --> 00:26:12,445
at these, like, Hannah shows
675
00:26:12,489 --> 00:26:16,279
versus when I was myself
and I would meet fans out.
676
00:26:16,326 --> 00:26:19,196
-It was... it was different.
And so... -Mm.
677
00:26:19,245 --> 00:26:21,995
Again, o-on that, like,
kind of psychological level,
678
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,880
um, I guess
that's kind of why, originally,
679
00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:27,629
um...
680
00:26:27,671 --> 00:26:29,301
when I first started doing,
681
00:26:29,339 --> 00:26:33,089
like, solo projects
as my own identity,
682
00:26:33,134 --> 00:26:35,354
-I'd almost create...
-Mm-hmm.
683
00:26:35,387 --> 00:26:37,597
kind of alter egos of myself.
684
00:26:37,639 --> 00:26:40,059
Because I thought you almost...
685
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:42,810
that I, Miley... 'Cause my name
was Miley on the show, too,
686
00:26:42,852 --> 00:26:44,192
which it wasn't. You know,
687
00:26:44,229 --> 00:26:45,689
when my... when my friends
from Nashville
688
00:26:45,730 --> 00:26:47,900
were going to audition,
obviously, the...
689
00:26:47,941 --> 00:26:51,361
the name wasn't Miley, but
I embodied the character so much
690
00:26:51,403 --> 00:26:53,863
that... they...
691
00:26:53,905 --> 00:26:55,525
the writers thought
it made most sense
692
00:26:55,573 --> 00:26:57,373
for Hannah to be Miley
693
00:26:57,409 --> 00:27:00,199
because of how much
I truly was the character.
694
00:27:00,245 --> 00:27:02,535
-Wow.
-And it didn't really feel like a character.
695
00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:04,210
I just said, "Okay,
696
00:27:04,249 --> 00:27:05,789
"someone's told me
I'm Hannah Montana.
697
00:27:05,834 --> 00:27:07,544
I am now Hannah Montana."
698
00:27:07,585 --> 00:27:09,545
-And anything that I create
for her... -One... You're in.
699
00:27:09,587 --> 00:27:10,707
-100%.
...I am in. It's like...
700
00:27:10,755 --> 00:27:12,085
It's beyond method,
701
00:27:12,132 --> 00:27:15,592
because I was growing up as her.
She was me.
702
00:27:15,635 --> 00:27:17,715
Like, there was no divide
between us.
703
00:27:17,762 --> 00:27:19,682
That's who I was.
704
00:27:19,723 --> 00:27:22,023
There was
the 15-year Hannahversary.
705
00:27:22,058 --> 00:27:24,978
And this was 15 years of my show
being on air.
706
00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:27,940
-And I spent the day...
-(exhales)
707
00:27:27,981 --> 00:27:28,731
Wow.
708
00:27:28,773 --> 00:27:30,323
...thinking,
709
00:27:30,358 --> 00:27:32,898
"What do I want to do
with my next 15 years?"
710
00:27:32,944 --> 00:27:34,574
That was what I dedicated
my day to.
711
00:27:34,612 --> 00:27:37,322
And, usually, I would feel I
wasn't doing enough if I wasn't,
712
00:27:37,365 --> 00:27:40,445
you know, talking with the fans,
creating.
713
00:27:40,493 --> 00:27:43,753
But I thought, "This day is,
like, bigger than a b..."
714
00:27:43,788 --> 00:27:45,538
It is a birthday, almost, to me.
715
00:27:45,582 --> 00:27:47,922
And, like, I really feel...
716
00:27:47,959 --> 00:27:49,499
we were talking
about spirituality--
717
00:27:49,544 --> 00:27:51,424
that I needed to, on that day--
718
00:27:51,463 --> 00:27:54,303
I wrote a letter
to Hannah Montana from myself.
719
00:27:54,341 --> 00:27:55,591
Holy shit.
720
00:27:55,633 --> 00:27:57,893
CYRUS:
And it was about, you know,
721
00:27:57,927 --> 00:27:59,847
just my gratitude
towards the character.
722
00:27:59,888 --> 00:28:01,848
Wa-Was it suggested?
723
00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:03,390
Or is this something that you...
724
00:28:03,433 --> 00:28:04,733
-you came up with and you did?
-No, I thought about it.
725
00:28:04,768 --> 00:28:07,978
I thought about it. I, um...
726
00:28:08,021 --> 00:28:10,271
-That's strong.
-I... I-I don't think anyone
727
00:28:10,315 --> 00:28:11,975
really could've told me
to do it,
728
00:28:12,025 --> 00:28:15,605
because a lot of the people
that are around me now
729
00:28:15,653 --> 00:28:17,533
were not
in that three-day car ride
730
00:28:17,572 --> 00:28:19,622
-with me and my mom, you know?
-That's strong, man. That's strong.
731
00:28:19,657 --> 00:28:21,527
That was like...
732
00:28:21,576 --> 00:28:23,036
It was just...
733
00:28:23,078 --> 00:28:24,948
Yeah, so now...
so now when I wrote this letter
734
00:28:24,996 --> 00:28:27,826
and I was able to kind of,
like...
735
00:28:27,874 --> 00:28:29,714
make peace with it,
736
00:28:29,751 --> 00:28:31,461
um, I thought...
737
00:28:31,503 --> 00:28:33,803
and "peace" being the kind of
key word of the story--
738
00:28:33,838 --> 00:28:38,178
is that, when I thought, "What
do I want the next 15 years?
739
00:28:38,218 --> 00:28:40,298
What's my..." 'Cause I knew,
when I was in that car,
740
00:28:40,345 --> 00:28:42,175
driving the three days
to California,
741
00:28:42,222 --> 00:28:45,642
what I wanted, I guess, these
next 15 years to look like.
742
00:28:45,684 --> 00:28:47,144
I knew what I wanted,
so I was able
743
00:28:47,185 --> 00:28:49,395
to achieve it, because,
everything that I did,
744
00:28:49,437 --> 00:28:52,017
I would know for a fact
if I was taking a step forward
745
00:28:52,065 --> 00:28:54,315
or backwards,
because I knew my destination.
746
00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:56,319
-Mm-hmm.
-And I think, you know,
747
00:28:56,361 --> 00:28:58,701
clarity and knowing
what you want,
748
00:28:58,738 --> 00:29:02,118
you're able
to make each day count.
749
00:29:02,158 --> 00:29:05,998
So I really spent
this anniversary
750
00:29:06,037 --> 00:29:07,577
thinking about what I wanted.
751
00:29:07,622 --> 00:29:09,962
And it's kind of vague,
752
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,040
um, but somehow says any...
everything.
753
00:29:12,085 --> 00:29:14,835
It was about
"I want to find peace."
754
00:29:14,879 --> 00:29:17,009
The way that people feel
that they've been reborn
755
00:29:17,048 --> 00:29:18,508
-or saved...
-Mm-hmm.
756
00:29:18,550 --> 00:29:21,510
...I feel that I have been
six weeks ago.
757
00:29:21,553 --> 00:29:24,143
I feel like everything changed
six weeks ago for me.
758
00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:26,220
* *
759
00:29:35,233 --> 00:29:37,243
* *
760
00:29:40,363 --> 00:29:42,703
My mom also was amazing,
761
00:29:42,741 --> 00:29:45,121
and she... archived
762
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,950
-and kept everything
from, like... -Mm-hmm.
763
00:29:47,996 --> 00:29:51,826
...all my schedules, all...
everything.
764
00:29:51,875 --> 00:29:53,995
Six weeks ago,
I found this schedule--
765
00:29:54,044 --> 00:29:56,054
one of the first times
I'd ever traveled
766
00:29:56,087 --> 00:29:57,457
to promote "Hannah Montana."
767
00:29:57,505 --> 00:29:59,875
I was only, probably,
like, 12 years old,
768
00:29:59,924 --> 00:30:01,974
and we were going to Europe.
769
00:30:02,010 --> 00:30:04,430
And, um, they even had,
like, nap time
770
00:30:04,471 --> 00:30:07,431
-built in the schedule for me,
'cause I was a child. -Mm-hmm.
771
00:30:07,474 --> 00:30:11,104
And, um, when I looked
at the schedule,
772
00:30:11,144 --> 00:30:14,944
I felt like this coat of,
like, armor came on
773
00:30:14,981 --> 00:30:16,521
to protect
774
00:30:16,566 --> 00:30:20,446
my, uh, like, innocent ste...
self that still lives.
775
00:30:20,487 --> 00:30:23,067
Because, actually, when I looked
at that schedule, it upset me.
776
00:30:23,114 --> 00:30:26,584
Because I felt that it...
777
00:30:26,618 --> 00:30:29,698
wasn't really c-considering
my best interests at...
778
00:30:29,746 --> 00:30:34,246
I don't think anyone did
anything to ever intentionally,
779
00:30:34,292 --> 00:30:37,752
you know,
abuse me as a child to work,
780
00:30:37,796 --> 00:30:39,586
because I wanted to do it.
But the schedule now,
781
00:30:39,631 --> 00:30:41,551
if you would look at this
for one of your own children,
782
00:30:41,591 --> 00:30:43,891
-I think you would be
kind of in shock. -It's... It was...
783
00:30:43,927 --> 00:30:46,257
-It's insane.
The-the hours, the work... -Yeah. I think it was...
784
00:30:46,304 --> 00:30:48,604
-...and what the... what
the time's being dedicated to. -It was shocking. It was: land.
785
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,100
Get ready in the limo.
786
00:30:50,141 --> 00:30:54,561
In the limo, do, uh, interviews
at the same time.
787
00:30:54,604 --> 00:30:55,944
Get to the hotel.
788
00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:57,610
You know, become Hannah.
789
00:30:57,649 --> 00:30:59,479
Do a concert. Go to the studio.
790
00:30:59,526 --> 00:31:01,566
There was really... And then
there was, like, 20 minutes
791
00:31:01,611 --> 00:31:02,951
for nap time and lunch,
792
00:31:02,987 --> 00:31:05,197
which we know
that you cannot have lunch
793
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,580
-and take a nap as a child
in 20 minutes. -Mm-hmm.
794
00:31:08,618 --> 00:31:11,198
And when I looked at it, um...
795
00:31:11,246 --> 00:31:13,746
and one of my team members
who's here said,
796
00:31:13,790 --> 00:31:14,750
"How does it make you feel?"
797
00:31:14,791 --> 00:31:17,291
My immediate reaction was
798
00:31:17,335 --> 00:31:18,955
that this is why I'm who I am
799
00:31:19,004 --> 00:31:21,134
and that everyone else around
me, if you don't work this hard,
800
00:31:21,172 --> 00:31:23,302
-you're never gonna...
It was the Will Smith, you know? -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
801
00:31:23,341 --> 00:31:25,011
If you don't look
at this schedule and know
802
00:31:25,051 --> 00:31:26,681
that this is what it takes,
you're never...
803
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,430
My... Instead of knowing that,
oh, it's...
804
00:31:29,472 --> 00:31:32,682
I'm act...
That wasn't a place of...
805
00:31:32,726 --> 00:31:34,056
it... of the ego.
806
00:31:34,102 --> 00:31:36,402
It was actually a place of,
like, hurt.
807
00:31:36,438 --> 00:31:40,188
-Mm.
-And, like, I guess, as a child, that made me...
808
00:31:41,067 --> 00:31:43,487
It didn't feel
like that was best for me.
809
00:31:43,528 --> 00:31:46,238
-Mm.
-And so, by looking at that schedule
810
00:31:46,281 --> 00:31:48,491
and just putting my ego aside
and going,
811
00:31:48,533 --> 00:31:51,163
"That, in some way,
affected me and hurt me."
812
00:31:51,202 --> 00:31:53,122
You know,
but instead of looking at that
813
00:31:53,163 --> 00:31:55,003
and going from that reaction
of ego, like,
814
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,130
"I can't feel it.
I can't admit it,"
815
00:31:57,167 --> 00:32:00,337
I instead just even sent a text
and said,
816
00:32:00,378 --> 00:32:03,338
"I'm really sorry that I kind of
exploded at that moment."
817
00:32:03,381 --> 00:32:06,181
Because, really, what I...
It was much easier to feel anger
818
00:32:06,217 --> 00:32:08,467
than to feel a little bit of,
like, pain in that.
819
00:32:08,511 --> 00:32:10,641
And so,
just looking at those things,
820
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,720
looking at the schedules,
looking at...
821
00:32:12,766 --> 00:32:15,476
And also, it said
in the beginning of the agenda,
822
00:32:15,518 --> 00:32:17,648
of the calendar,
it said like, "We think
823
00:32:17,687 --> 00:32:20,147
"that if this week goes
as planned,
824
00:32:20,190 --> 00:32:22,150
this is going
to be a really huge success."
825
00:32:22,192 --> 00:32:24,032
And it basically, you know...
826
00:32:24,069 --> 00:32:25,779
There was...
there was no importance
827
00:32:25,820 --> 00:32:27,200
of sleeping or eating.
828
00:32:27,238 --> 00:32:29,198
And so that--
at that age of 12 years old--
829
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,780
taught me
if you want to be successful,
830
00:32:30,825 --> 00:32:32,825
-you can't sleep
and you can't eat. -Uh, what I...
831
00:32:32,869 --> 00:32:36,329
The great thing about
what's happening right now...
832
00:32:38,124 --> 00:32:43,004
I can almost promise you...
833
00:32:43,046 --> 00:32:48,636
studios, producers,
networks, right?
834
00:32:48,677 --> 00:32:50,217
Hearing a...
835
00:32:50,261 --> 00:32:52,181
a real talk,
a real conversation,
836
00:32:52,222 --> 00:32:56,232
a real back-and-forth,
and now hearing,
837
00:32:56,267 --> 00:32:59,937
well, the impact of said thing,
or said workload...
838
00:32:59,979 --> 00:33:02,229
-Mm-hmm.
-...right, on young adult,
839
00:33:02,273 --> 00:33:04,483
at whatever time in their life,
840
00:33:04,526 --> 00:33:07,106
"Oh, wow. We-we...
841
00:33:07,153 --> 00:33:09,953
-we can do better, right?"
-Mm-hmm.
842
00:33:09,989 --> 00:33:11,569
Like, you're-you're...
843
00:33:11,616 --> 00:33:13,906
This conversation now...
844
00:33:13,952 --> 00:33:16,412
puts the pressure
on those people
845
00:33:16,454 --> 00:33:20,464
that are in charge
at those times, in those places
846
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:22,130
to understand.
847
00:33:22,168 --> 00:33:24,048
-"We can do better.
-Mm-hmm.
848
00:33:24,087 --> 00:33:25,877
We can be more mindful." Right?
849
00:33:25,922 --> 00:33:29,472
And at a time where, like you
said, it may not be malicious.
850
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:31,929
-Mm.
-It's not, you know, done with ill will.
851
00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:33,470
-Everybody's trying to hustle...
-Yeah.
852
00:33:33,513 --> 00:33:35,313
because everybody's trying
to work to get this thing.
853
00:33:35,348 --> 00:33:37,018
-And everybody's goal
is the thing. -Yeah.
854
00:33:37,058 --> 00:33:39,268
And it's got to work, and this
is how we got to do to get it.
855
00:33:39,310 --> 00:33:40,940
Which is fine.
I'm not disregarding that.
856
00:33:40,979 --> 00:33:45,779
I'm saying that you're-you're...
you're bringing up something
857
00:33:45,817 --> 00:33:51,567
that ultimately makes people
have to be more aware.
858
00:33:51,614 --> 00:33:52,624
-Mm-hmm.
-Right?
859
00:33:52,657 --> 00:33:54,737
And it couldn't be
a better time,
860
00:33:54,784 --> 00:33:58,874
because it's what's...
it's what's happening now.
861
00:33:58,913 --> 00:34:00,793
-Mm-hmm.
-If you look at the now,
862
00:34:00,832 --> 00:34:05,632
-now it's all about
people becoming more aware. -Mm-hmm.
863
00:34:05,670 --> 00:34:09,880
Aware of your words, aware
of the impact that your words
864
00:34:09,924 --> 00:34:12,644
may have, aware of acceptance,
865
00:34:12,677 --> 00:34:16,097
aware of equality,
aware of, you know,
866
00:34:16,139 --> 00:34:18,979
difference within people
and understanding
867
00:34:19,017 --> 00:34:21,097
and-and, you know, compassion.
868
00:34:21,144 --> 00:34:23,814
And there's room for rest.
869
00:34:23,855 --> 00:34:25,355
There's room for self.
870
00:34:25,398 --> 00:34:28,738
There's room for mind,
rest, whatever it may be.
871
00:34:28,777 --> 00:34:30,857
'Cause what we're talking about
relates to everyone.
872
00:34:30,904 --> 00:34:32,494
-Mm-hmm.
-Everybody works so hard
873
00:34:32,530 --> 00:34:35,490
to maintain a lifestyle
and take care of themselves
874
00:34:35,533 --> 00:34:36,833
-and their families.
-Absolutely.
875
00:34:36,868 --> 00:34:38,618
Regardless of what you do.
Absolutely.
876
00:34:38,661 --> 00:34:41,161
And everyone so hard, that
if we pivot this to, like...
877
00:34:41,206 --> 00:34:43,166
to the importance of creativity,
878
00:34:43,208 --> 00:34:44,828
to the importance
of family time.
879
00:34:44,876 --> 00:34:47,626
I think, you know,
it's been probably one
880
00:34:47,671 --> 00:34:49,171
of the greatest things
to happen to us,
881
00:34:49,214 --> 00:34:50,804
but also one of the worst.
882
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,800
It's been detrimental, I think,
to have our cell phones
883
00:34:53,843 --> 00:34:57,473
basically creating an office
for us at all times, where
884
00:34:57,514 --> 00:35:00,644
if you are unavailable,
and no one can reach you
885
00:35:00,684 --> 00:35:02,854
at 2:00 in the morning,
it's that you're not dedicated.
886
00:35:02,894 --> 00:35:04,354
-Mm-hmm.
-That you don't care.
887
00:35:04,396 --> 00:35:06,146
And honestly,
people lose their jobs
888
00:35:06,189 --> 00:35:09,859
for not being willing to live
at that-that height of pressure.
889
00:35:09,901 --> 00:35:13,531
-Mm-hmm.
-If you... if you value, you know, family time,
890
00:35:13,571 --> 00:35:16,411
if you value Sundays,
if you val...
891
00:35:16,449 --> 00:35:18,239
-then you must not want it
enough. -Mm-hmm.
892
00:35:18,284 --> 00:35:20,164
And you're not worthy
of this job,
893
00:35:20,203 --> 00:35:21,623
and you're not worthy
of the success,
894
00:35:21,663 --> 00:35:23,503
and so we're going to give it
to someone else
895
00:35:23,540 --> 00:35:25,500
who's willing to run on zero
896
00:35:25,542 --> 00:35:28,252
and to not have a quality
of life.
897
00:35:28,294 --> 00:35:30,054
But they're...
898
00:35:30,088 --> 00:35:33,298
Yeah, I can't be that person
anymore.
899
00:35:46,271 --> 00:35:49,691
I remember when, um,
Justin Bieber came out
900
00:35:49,733 --> 00:35:52,033
-with, like, his 3D movie.
-Mm-hmm.
901
00:35:52,068 --> 00:35:53,488
And he invited me
to the premiere.
902
00:35:53,528 --> 00:35:55,068
And I was sitting in front
of him,
903
00:35:55,113 --> 00:35:57,073
and his mom, like, tapped me
on the shoulder and said,
904
00:35:57,115 --> 00:35:58,445
"Is there any, like,
advice..."--
905
00:35:58,491 --> 00:36:00,241
which I couldn't believe,
because I was so young--
906
00:36:00,285 --> 00:36:02,575
"...that you want
to give to Justin?"
907
00:36:02,620 --> 00:36:04,250
And it was, I said,
"If you can..."
908
00:36:04,289 --> 00:36:07,329
You know, there's-there's kind
of, like, different techniques
909
00:36:07,375 --> 00:36:09,085
of, like, Reiki tapping
and things like this.
910
00:36:09,127 --> 00:36:12,127
But I said, "If you could, like,
kind of almost tap yourself
911
00:36:12,172 --> 00:36:15,762
"on the side of your head and
almost push 'record' on moments
912
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,930
that you want to remember,
because I don't remember."
913
00:36:17,969 --> 00:36:21,429
-And I was only probably
17 or 18, but I had said -Wow.
914
00:36:21,473 --> 00:36:23,023
-"I want you to remember this."
-Wow.
915
00:36:23,058 --> 00:36:25,518
Like, you've got, you know,
speaking of people,
916
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,980
like Will Smith,
all these people
917
00:36:27,020 --> 00:36:28,860
coming to watch this 3D movie
of this kid
918
00:36:28,897 --> 00:36:31,267
who was just putting videos
on YouTube two years ago.
919
00:36:31,316 --> 00:36:34,236
And I didn't know
where his career was gonna go,
920
00:36:34,277 --> 00:36:35,607
or how long it was gonna last.
921
00:36:35,653 --> 00:36:37,663
I didn't know the same thing
about my own.
922
00:36:37,697 --> 00:36:39,737
And I just said,
"I just want you to remember.
923
00:36:39,783 --> 00:36:42,043
"So, like, if you can try
to record moments like this
924
00:36:42,077 --> 00:36:44,867
"in your head, or write them
down and, like, take a moment
925
00:36:44,913 --> 00:36:47,833
"to inhale and, like, know
what this theater smells like,
926
00:36:47,874 --> 00:36:49,754
-right now." Just remember.
-Be present. Yeah.
927
00:36:49,793 --> 00:36:52,593
-Because I cannot remember.
-I got a blur.
928
00:36:52,629 --> 00:36:55,379
-Mm-hmm.
-I got a... I got a heavy blur
929
00:36:55,423 --> 00:36:57,133
-of some periods.
-Mm-hmm.
930
00:36:57,175 --> 00:36:58,635
-I remember big moments.
-Mm-hmm.
931
00:36:58,677 --> 00:37:00,387
But I got a blur
932
00:37:00,428 --> 00:37:03,428
-of some in between, and...
-Mm-hmm.
933
00:37:04,766 --> 00:37:09,186
I have been in my machine
for quite some time, right?
934
00:37:09,229 --> 00:37:12,069
And, you know, I don't have
to go into crazy detail
935
00:37:12,107 --> 00:37:15,317
'cause it's...
it's about... it's about you,
936
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,820
and it's about
my-my conversation with you.
937
00:37:17,862 --> 00:37:22,282
But I'm telling you,
I can relate
938
00:37:22,325 --> 00:37:24,285
at such a high level
939
00:37:24,327 --> 00:37:27,037
of what you're saying about...
940
00:37:27,831 --> 00:37:32,341
Because you... 'Cause without
having the-the blink to record
941
00:37:32,377 --> 00:37:34,667
-and-and-and really capture...
-Uh-huh.
942
00:37:34,713 --> 00:37:38,553
-it's gone. It's gone.
-Mm-hmm.
943
00:37:38,591 --> 00:37:40,181
And because
we're in this machine,
944
00:37:40,218 --> 00:37:42,678
-you're on to the next thing.
-Mm-hmm.
945
00:37:42,721 --> 00:37:44,221
And the next thing
may not be bigger
946
00:37:44,264 --> 00:37:45,894
than the thing that was before.
947
00:37:45,932 --> 00:37:48,522
And the thing after that thing
may not be bigger, or it may be.
948
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,690
But you're so focused
on the back-to-back.
949
00:37:52,731 --> 00:37:54,731
You're so focused
on the train.
950
00:37:54,774 --> 00:37:58,284
You're-you're so focused
on forward progression,
951
00:37:58,319 --> 00:38:01,199
more success, more wins, more,
952
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,819
-more, more.
-Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
953
00:38:02,866 --> 00:38:06,536
-You're feeding this thing.
-"More" is my favorite word.
954
00:38:06,578 --> 00:38:10,038
What is this for you? Be honest.
This conversation. Us.
955
00:38:10,081 --> 00:38:13,421
-This conversation?
-Yes. What is this for you?
956
00:38:13,460 --> 00:38:16,250
This conversation, um, for me.
957
00:38:18,131 --> 00:38:23,051
I think that I've had a...
958
00:38:23,094 --> 00:38:24,764
I felt very disconnected
959
00:38:24,804 --> 00:38:28,144
from my community of creatives
for a long time.
960
00:38:28,183 --> 00:38:29,853
-Mm-hmm.
-And I was having truly--
961
00:38:29,893 --> 00:38:32,603
when we sat in these chairs--
an out-of-body experience.
962
00:38:32,645 --> 00:38:35,975
I was not here with you.
I was in my robo mode,
963
00:38:36,024 --> 00:38:38,614
you know, that I was taught
to have of,
964
00:38:38,651 --> 00:38:40,401
"Today you told Kevin Hart
965
00:38:40,445 --> 00:38:42,105
you would sit down
and have a conversation."
966
00:38:42,155 --> 00:38:45,075
But I-I was not here to sit and
have a conversation with you.
967
00:38:45,116 --> 00:38:48,406
I was still doing all the things
that you just talked about.
968
00:38:48,453 --> 00:38:49,833
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
969
00:38:49,871 --> 00:38:52,581
And I would've missed out
on something.
970
00:38:52,624 --> 00:38:55,924
And I should know
that more people like you and I
971
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,840
are going through all the things
we just talked about.
972
00:38:57,879 --> 00:38:59,709
-Mm-hmm.
-And I should ask them if they're okay
973
00:38:59,756 --> 00:39:01,876
and if they need a friend, if
they ever want to talk about it.
974
00:39:01,925 --> 00:39:03,835
So it's really nice of you
to do that.
975
00:39:03,885 --> 00:39:05,755
I'm going to...
976
00:39:05,804 --> 00:39:08,434
In conclusion, I'm gonna say
something to you, and I mean it.
977
00:39:08,473 --> 00:39:10,683
-Mm-hmm.
-What I'm about to say, right?
978
00:39:10,725 --> 00:39:14,265
Uh... I've never met
Miley Cyrus.
979
00:39:14,312 --> 00:39:16,442
I don't... I don't know you.
980
00:39:16,481 --> 00:39:18,191
We don't have a relationship.
981
00:39:18,233 --> 00:39:22,113
The purpose, like I told you,
behind this is
982
00:39:22,153 --> 00:39:25,073
to have real talks
with real people, right?
983
00:39:25,115 --> 00:39:28,445
And people
that have these crazy platforms
984
00:39:28,493 --> 00:39:31,623
that you think you know,
but you don't know.
985
00:39:31,663 --> 00:39:35,463
And through a real conversation
that's not predetermined
986
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:38,040
or, you know, premeditated
or programmed,
987
00:39:38,086 --> 00:39:39,416
things will come out.
988
00:39:39,462 --> 00:39:42,012
Conversation
and talk will come out.
989
00:39:42,048 --> 00:39:46,548
And in that, you can possibly
walk away with a different idea.
990
00:39:46,594 --> 00:39:50,724
And not just the audience,
myself included, right?
991
00:39:50,765 --> 00:39:54,845
Like, I really genuinely want
to get to know the people
992
00:39:54,894 --> 00:39:57,024
that I'm talking to,
because there's a...
993
00:39:57,063 --> 00:40:01,233
an abundance of respect
for these people.
994
00:40:01,276 --> 00:40:05,696
After talking to you today,
995
00:40:05,739 --> 00:40:07,699
you've not only shined a light
996
00:40:07,741 --> 00:40:12,701
on things that I personally have
been through, right?
997
00:40:12,746 --> 00:40:18,336
You've also shined a light,
like, w...
998
00:40:18,376 --> 00:40:20,626
There's so much synergy
999
00:40:20,670 --> 00:40:25,090
in these stories of...
success, right?
1000
00:40:25,133 --> 00:40:26,893
When you talk
about where you come from.
1001
00:40:26,926 --> 00:40:28,886
When you talk
about making it from here,
1002
00:40:28,928 --> 00:40:31,508
going to here, the amount
of times back and forth,
1003
00:40:31,556 --> 00:40:35,226
you have no idea
how many people share that.
1004
00:40:35,268 --> 00:40:37,688
In the world of spiritual,
1005
00:40:37,729 --> 00:40:39,859
and in the world
of thinking how you think,
1006
00:40:39,898 --> 00:40:42,068
I'm gonna wrap this up
by saying something
1007
00:40:42,108 --> 00:40:44,528
that just hit me
as we were talking.
1008
00:40:44,569 --> 00:40:49,819
You're talking about
this... confusion, right,
1009
00:40:49,866 --> 00:40:51,826
that so many people have now
1010
00:40:51,868 --> 00:40:54,788
who simply aren't aware,
as we were talking.
1011
00:40:54,829 --> 00:40:56,999
You're not aware
because we assume.
1012
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,540
We assume so much
about the other person,
1013
00:41:00,585 --> 00:41:03,545
about the other race,
about the sex,
1014
00:41:03,588 --> 00:41:08,678
about the... the love
for same sex or not,
1015
00:41:08,718 --> 00:41:12,388
or choice of person
and what they want to be.
1016
00:41:12,430 --> 00:41:15,230
We have so much assumption.
1017
00:41:15,266 --> 00:41:18,016
And the reason why
we have so much assumption
1018
00:41:18,061 --> 00:41:20,981
is because we haven't
taken the time to truly talk.
1019
00:41:21,022 --> 00:41:23,782
We haven't taken the time
to truly talk
1020
00:41:23,817 --> 00:41:25,647
and to truly understand.
1021
00:41:25,694 --> 00:41:28,204
And if people...
if people understand
1022
00:41:28,238 --> 00:41:32,408
the power in conversation,
the power in dialogue,
1023
00:41:32,450 --> 00:41:35,080
the power in back-and-forth,
1024
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,120
then you'll ultimately get to
the... to the place of solution.
1025
00:41:39,165 --> 00:41:40,995
That place is so far away
1026
00:41:41,042 --> 00:41:44,922
-because people aren't willing
to do this. -Mm-hmm.
1027
00:41:44,963 --> 00:41:47,173
I'm walking away
from this conversation
1028
00:41:47,215 --> 00:41:50,425
with such an amazing
understanding of who you are,
1029
00:41:50,468 --> 00:41:54,098
and I think that person is dope
as fuck. I mean it.
1030
00:41:54,139 --> 00:41:56,309
-Thank you.
-I think you're dope as fuck.
1031
00:41:56,349 --> 00:41:57,979
-Ditto.
-And you now...
1032
00:41:58,018 --> 00:42:01,438
You've now got not only
a new fan, but a friend.
1033
00:42:01,479 --> 00:42:03,439
Like, I'm comfortable saying,
"Yo, I talked to Miley.
1034
00:42:03,481 --> 00:42:04,861
Miley's dope as hell."
1035
00:42:04,899 --> 00:42:06,279
And you're an amazing guest, yo.
1036
00:42:06,317 --> 00:42:08,237
-Ladies and gentlemen...
-I really enjoyed it.
1037
00:42:08,278 --> 00:42:09,488
I appreciate it. Thank you.
1038
00:42:09,529 --> 00:42:10,909
Ladies and gentlemen,
Miley Cyrus.
1039
00:42:10,947 --> 00:42:13,027
Goddamn it.
What an amazing conversation.
1040
00:42:13,074 --> 00:42:14,704
-What an amazing show.
-Thank you.
1041
00:42:14,743 --> 00:42:16,703
-Thank you, Miley.
-Love you with all my Hart.
1042
00:42:16,745 --> 00:42:18,785
-Nice.
-Hey! Commercial spot.
1043
00:42:18,830 --> 00:42:21,330
Now I'm in the commercial.
1044
00:42:21,374 --> 00:42:24,294
-(laughs) Holy shit.
-Cool.
1045
00:42:24,336 --> 00:42:26,706
I mean, I don't
know what you're talking about.
1046
00:42:26,755 --> 00:42:28,875
Like, I'm so glad I met you.
1047
00:42:28,923 --> 00:42:30,343
-Yeah, this was...
This is it. -This is it.
1048
00:42:30,383 --> 00:42:33,603
-This is the way to do it.
-This was the way to go.
1049
00:42:36,181 --> 00:42:39,481
Today's life anecdote is what
I like to call a gem. (chuckles)
1050
00:42:39,517 --> 00:42:42,147
You may want to pick this one up
as soon as I drop it.
1051
00:42:42,187 --> 00:42:45,147
Here we go.
Why do you have elbows?
1052
00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:47,070
For the same reason
why you have joints.
1053
00:42:47,108 --> 00:42:49,648
What I'm saying is, every
once in a while, smoke one.
1054
00:42:49,694 --> 00:42:51,914
Huh? Come on, now.
1055
00:42:51,946 --> 00:42:52,066
Come on, now.
Did everybody get that?
1056
00:42:52,116 --> 00:42:56,666
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