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Well, because that's what these shows are. 4 00:00:26,735 --> 00:00:29,025 They're doozies, because our guests are amazing, 5 00:00:29,070 --> 00:00:30,700 and today's show will be no different. 6 00:00:30,739 --> 00:00:32,869 My guest-- well, she's a Grammy-nominated, 7 00:00:32,907 --> 00:00:36,037 Billboard and MTV Video Music Award-winning 8 00:00:36,077 --> 00:00:38,037 recording artist and actress. 9 00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:39,789 She's what I like to call a triple threat. 10 00:00:39,831 --> 00:00:41,671 I'm honored to have her here today. 11 00:00:41,708 --> 00:00:44,038 Meeting her for what I would call my first time, 12 00:00:44,085 --> 00:00:45,705 which makes it more exciting. 13 00:00:45,754 --> 00:00:48,134 -Miley Cyrus. How are you? -Hey. 14 00:00:48,173 --> 00:00:50,223 -What's up, Kevin Hart? -How are you? Oh, Kevin Hart. 15 00:00:50,258 --> 00:00:51,718 -I like that. I like the... -Full names. 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,010 -Full name-- Miley Cyrus, Kevin Hart. -Yeah. 17 00:00:54,054 --> 00:00:56,354 -Yeah. -Miley, before we get into anything, 18 00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:58,889 I got to give you the description of what this is. 19 00:00:58,933 --> 00:01:00,273 -All right. -Okay? 20 00:01:00,310 --> 00:01:02,270 I like the fact that I'm taking a big risk 21 00:01:02,312 --> 00:01:04,692 and doing what hasn't really been done, right? 22 00:01:04,731 --> 00:01:06,691 Talk shows. Normally we go on them, 23 00:01:06,733 --> 00:01:08,743 we know what's gonna happen. We know the questions 24 00:01:08,777 --> 00:01:10,317 they're gonna ask you, you know the world 25 00:01:10,362 --> 00:01:11,452 of conversation, you know what it's gonna be. 26 00:01:11,488 --> 00:01:13,278 -Mm-hmm. -I'm taking a risk! 27 00:01:13,323 --> 00:01:15,533 -Yep. -I don't want to talk before. 28 00:01:15,575 --> 00:01:17,655 I want to get to meet people, get to know people. 29 00:01:17,702 --> 00:01:19,702 Taking risks? That's kind of my specialty. 30 00:01:19,746 --> 00:01:21,286 -That's your specialty? -Yeah. 31 00:01:21,331 --> 00:01:22,921 Well, then, that's what this is. This is us 32 00:01:22,957 --> 00:01:24,917 having a conversation for the first time. 33 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,419 We're doing it here, and this is a pun that's intended. 34 00:01:27,462 --> 00:01:29,092 We're gonna have ourselves a "Hart to Heart." 35 00:01:29,130 --> 00:01:30,720 -Hey... -Huh? 36 00:01:30,757 --> 00:01:32,967 Did you, did you zoom in when I said that? 37 00:01:33,009 --> 00:01:35,219 that was a perfect... I said we're gonna have 38 00:01:35,261 --> 00:01:36,471 a "Hart to Heart," and I did this. 39 00:01:36,513 --> 00:01:37,933 Hopefully you caught that. 40 00:01:37,972 --> 00:01:40,352 Uh, Miley, I also believe in 41 00:01:40,392 --> 00:01:42,482 drinking wine. I think conversations 42 00:01:42,519 --> 00:01:45,609 get much better, uh, when wine is involved. 43 00:01:45,647 --> 00:01:47,397 -I like it. -So I hope that you like wine, 44 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,110 -Yes, please. -'cause that's what we do here. 45 00:01:49,150 --> 00:01:50,440 -Yes, please. -Yes, please? All right, I've got a som. 46 00:01:50,485 --> 00:01:52,445 This is my-my som. 47 00:01:52,487 --> 00:01:54,407 -Hi, how's it going? -Ms. Cyrus, how are you today? 48 00:01:54,447 --> 00:01:55,867 I'm doing great. What's your name? 49 00:01:55,907 --> 00:01:57,657 -DLynn. Happy to pour -Hey, nice to meet you. 50 00:01:57,701 --> 00:01:59,411 some amazing wines and happy to meet you, as well. 51 00:01:59,452 --> 00:02:00,872 What do we have today? 52 00:02:00,912 --> 00:02:03,292 2015. Something with a little bit of age on it. 53 00:02:03,331 --> 00:02:04,791 -Ooh! -MILEY: Hey! 54 00:02:04,833 --> 00:02:06,383 -Old Vine Carignan. -Give me a little bit of age. 55 00:02:06,418 --> 00:02:07,748 -Sexy. -Yes, it is. 56 00:02:07,794 --> 00:02:10,344 I say "som" because I struggle with the word 57 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:12,630 -sommelier sometimes, so... -Yeah. "Som." 58 00:02:12,674 --> 00:02:13,514 Som. Yeah. 59 00:02:13,550 --> 00:02:14,880 Well, I really respect you. 60 00:02:14,926 --> 00:02:17,216 That craft and the time that it takes 61 00:02:17,262 --> 00:02:18,972 to become a som. I watched a documentary 62 00:02:19,014 --> 00:02:21,934 -about it. This is intense. -Thank you very much. 63 00:02:21,975 --> 00:02:23,725 -No, he's real. -And a lot of purpose 64 00:02:23,768 --> 00:02:26,228 and your life is very dedicated 65 00:02:26,271 --> 00:02:29,441 to this craft and, uh, I respect it. 66 00:02:29,482 --> 00:02:31,692 Thank you kindly. You're absolutely gonna enjoy this. 67 00:02:31,735 --> 00:02:33,145 -Thank you. -Okay. -Fresh pepper. 68 00:02:33,194 --> 00:02:34,654 Tobacco. Smoked meats. 69 00:02:34,696 --> 00:02:36,696 -Don't threaten me with a good time! -Hey! 70 00:02:36,740 --> 00:02:38,660 -Little bit of black cherry. -Don't threaten me with a good time! 71 00:02:38,700 --> 00:02:41,330 (stammers) I'm-a drink the fresh pepper! 72 00:02:41,369 --> 00:02:43,039 -Right? Thank you. -(laughs) Enjoy. Thank you. 73 00:02:43,079 --> 00:02:44,829 -Let's rock. -Uh, cheers. 74 00:02:44,873 --> 00:02:46,673 -Cheers. Cheers. -To you and I. Right? 75 00:02:46,708 --> 00:02:48,338 -Great conversation, great dialogue. -I love it. 76 00:02:48,376 --> 00:02:49,836 I appreciate you doing this. This is cool. 77 00:02:49,878 --> 00:02:52,758 Thank you. I like-- This is as big as my face. 78 00:02:52,797 --> 00:02:55,047 This is what I... this is... this is great. 79 00:02:55,091 --> 00:02:56,681 -That's what you want to drink out of. -Mm-hmm. 80 00:02:56,718 --> 00:02:58,718 Uh, Miley, where do we start? 81 00:02:58,762 --> 00:03:00,602 First of all, I guess I got to get you flowers first. 82 00:03:00,638 --> 00:03:03,018 A tremendous amount of respect for you and your success. 83 00:03:03,058 --> 00:03:05,018 -Thank you. -Your story, where you've come from, 84 00:03:05,060 --> 00:03:06,560 where you now are. 85 00:03:06,603 --> 00:03:08,523 I bow down to people in the entertainment business 86 00:03:08,563 --> 00:03:11,363 that have done so much and continue to do. 87 00:03:11,399 --> 00:03:13,529 I know it's, uh, a hard task. 88 00:03:13,568 --> 00:03:14,568 It's not one that's easy. 89 00:03:14,611 --> 00:03:16,071 Yeah, and you know, I think... 90 00:03:16,112 --> 00:03:17,862 Oh, fuck. I forgot my mic's on my jacket. Sorry. 91 00:03:17,906 --> 00:03:19,406 -You got that comfortable already. -That's okay. Yeah. 92 00:03:19,449 --> 00:03:20,829 -You got that comfortable... -You al... 93 00:03:20,867 --> 00:03:22,327 -already. -This what a cheap date I am. 94 00:03:22,369 --> 00:03:23,539 Do you know, I took one sip of wine, 95 00:03:23,578 --> 00:03:25,368 -and I took my jacket off. -Yes. 96 00:03:25,413 --> 00:03:26,623 I'm known for a lot of things. 97 00:03:26,664 --> 00:03:28,424 My class isn't always one of them. 98 00:03:28,458 --> 00:03:30,288 Well, we will get into it. 99 00:03:30,335 --> 00:03:31,915 And I don't agree. It is one of them. 100 00:03:31,961 --> 00:03:33,381 It has to be one of them because... 101 00:03:33,421 --> 00:03:35,631 Self-deprecation is also one of my things, 102 00:03:35,674 --> 00:03:37,384 you know what I mean? I-I got... 103 00:03:37,425 --> 00:03:39,335 -I got, I got some class. -I, um... 104 00:03:39,386 --> 00:03:40,596 But I also like to put on a show. 105 00:03:40,637 --> 00:03:42,097 I know what people like to see. 106 00:03:42,138 --> 00:03:44,678 -Mm-hmm. -I know what they don't like to see, 107 00:03:44,724 --> 00:03:47,104 and then they like to talk about it for a long period of time. 108 00:03:47,143 --> 00:03:50,153 -Mm-hmm. -And so that sometimes works for my advantage also. 109 00:03:50,188 --> 00:03:52,268 Well, I mean, look, I want to start from the beginning 110 00:03:52,315 --> 00:03:53,525 because there's a lot that I know 111 00:03:53,566 --> 00:03:54,526 and there's a lot that I don't know. 112 00:03:54,567 --> 00:03:56,107 Right? The world of Disney 113 00:03:56,152 --> 00:03:59,492 and the success that you had in that space is unreal, 114 00:03:59,531 --> 00:04:01,741 monumental, right, when you had your show. 115 00:04:01,783 --> 00:04:03,663 I-I want to know how that came about. 116 00:04:03,702 --> 00:04:05,912 Like, what-what was the road to get there first, 117 00:04:05,954 --> 00:04:08,874 before-before we get to where you are now, 118 00:04:08,915 --> 00:04:11,575 just talk to me about the beginning stages, right? 119 00:04:11,626 --> 00:04:12,836 How-how do you get the show that you got? 120 00:04:12,877 --> 00:04:14,457 Well, it's kind of a funny story. 121 00:04:14,504 --> 00:04:17,594 I got cast for "Hannah Montana" 'cause I was 12. 122 00:04:17,632 --> 00:04:20,512 So, a couple of girls that I knew 123 00:04:20,552 --> 00:04:23,012 that were on, you know, going to school with me, 124 00:04:23,054 --> 00:04:25,224 and we were on the same cheerleading team... 125 00:04:25,265 --> 00:04:26,675 -Mm-hmm. -They were going to L.A. 126 00:04:26,725 --> 00:04:28,635 to audition for Disney, 127 00:04:28,685 --> 00:04:33,015 -Mm-hmm. -and I begged my mom to let me go with them. 128 00:04:33,064 --> 00:04:34,444 -Okay. -So I went across the country. 129 00:04:34,482 --> 00:04:35,822 My mom actually wouldn't fly. 130 00:04:35,859 --> 00:04:37,649 My mom was terrified of flying. 131 00:04:37,694 --> 00:04:39,824 So we drove for three days from Nashville to California. 132 00:04:39,863 --> 00:04:42,743 -You and... you and your friends? -My mom, my grandma... 133 00:04:42,782 --> 00:04:45,742 So, well, here's the story. So they went. 134 00:04:45,785 --> 00:04:47,785 I went with them. I end up getting called back. 135 00:04:47,829 --> 00:04:50,039 -None of them got called back. -Oh, wow. 136 00:04:50,081 --> 00:04:51,621 So they weren't super stoked that I went along for the trip. 137 00:04:51,666 --> 00:04:53,126 Did that, did that affect your friendship? 138 00:04:53,168 --> 00:04:55,548 I-- at that point-- 139 00:04:55,587 --> 00:04:58,967 I was already going through some bullying. 140 00:04:59,007 --> 00:05:02,467 -Wasn't really feeling like I fit quite in. -Mm-hmm. 141 00:05:02,510 --> 00:05:07,060 Um, the arts and kind of creative, 142 00:05:07,098 --> 00:05:10,058 you know, I guess community surrounding me in Nashville, 143 00:05:10,101 --> 00:05:13,521 -it wasn't really that strong, um... -Okay. Okay. 144 00:05:13,563 --> 00:05:16,733 I think a lot of people were kind of more okay 145 00:05:16,775 --> 00:05:18,985 with just blending in, 146 00:05:19,027 --> 00:05:21,737 and I've always wanted to stand out and be different 147 00:05:21,780 --> 00:05:24,070 and also be confrontational, 148 00:05:24,115 --> 00:05:26,325 and I guess kind of, um... 149 00:05:26,368 --> 00:05:28,328 just... 150 00:05:28,370 --> 00:05:30,620 I don't think I fit in, in the small town that I was in. 151 00:05:30,663 --> 00:05:33,173 -Okay. -And so... 152 00:05:33,208 --> 00:05:34,538 it did effect my friendships, 153 00:05:34,584 --> 00:05:36,094 but I think that was kind of inevitable-- 154 00:05:36,127 --> 00:05:38,957 that I was gonna kind of outgrow my town at some point. 155 00:05:39,005 --> 00:05:41,335 Especially just because of my political views 156 00:05:41,383 --> 00:05:45,183 or my religious views and, um, yeah, kind of being... 157 00:05:45,220 --> 00:05:47,890 My-my granddad was a Democratic state legislator, 158 00:05:47,931 --> 00:05:51,101 so we were always kind of, like, very outspoken. 159 00:05:51,142 --> 00:05:53,602 Um, and so, yeah, it did kind of affect my friendships. 160 00:05:53,645 --> 00:05:55,055 What's the... what's the town? You say small town. 161 00:05:55,105 --> 00:05:56,765 -Nashville, Tennessee. -Nashville. 162 00:05:56,815 --> 00:05:58,725 But I'm from a small area called Thompson's Station. 163 00:05:58,775 --> 00:06:01,565 -Thompson's Station. Okay. -Yeah, where my dad still lives 164 00:06:01,611 --> 00:06:03,321 on the same farm that I grew up on. 165 00:06:03,363 --> 00:06:04,613 500 acres. 166 00:06:04,656 --> 00:06:07,696 Surrounded by just, you know, land. 167 00:06:07,742 --> 00:06:09,542 When you talk about, you know, 168 00:06:09,577 --> 00:06:12,207 the outgrowing side of the small town, 169 00:06:12,247 --> 00:06:14,037 is there still love? 170 00:06:14,082 --> 00:06:15,752 Is there a love-hate relationship? 171 00:06:15,792 --> 00:06:17,502 Is it just a hate relationship? 172 00:06:17,544 --> 00:06:19,754 -No. -Like, what's your relationship with Thompson? 173 00:06:19,796 --> 00:06:21,546 I don't have a lot of, um... 174 00:06:21,589 --> 00:06:23,089 I don't have a lot of hate in my heart 175 00:06:23,133 --> 00:06:24,683 -for kind of anything. -I love that. 176 00:06:24,718 --> 00:06:26,968 -Mm-hmm. I like that. -Hate in my heart. 177 00:06:27,012 --> 00:06:28,472 But, yeah, so my friends took me to California. 178 00:06:28,513 --> 00:06:31,393 I auditioned. I got called back. 179 00:06:31,433 --> 00:06:34,563 My mom wouldn't fly, so we drove, 180 00:06:34,602 --> 00:06:36,522 um, and I went back to California again. 181 00:06:36,563 --> 00:06:39,903 -Did another audition. I got another callback. -You-you drove twice? 182 00:06:39,941 --> 00:06:42,691 I've driven from Nashville to California 183 00:06:42,736 --> 00:06:44,896 so many times 'cause of my mother, 184 00:06:44,946 --> 00:06:47,026 -(chuckling) -and I have five brothers and sisters, 185 00:06:47,073 --> 00:06:50,493 so we'd all pile in the car with all of our dogs. 186 00:06:50,535 --> 00:06:52,905 Um, except I loved when my grandma-- 187 00:06:52,954 --> 00:06:54,714 rest in peace-- would take me, 188 00:06:54,748 --> 00:06:57,248 because she would let me drink Pepsi, 189 00:06:57,292 --> 00:06:58,792 and I'm already super hyped 190 00:06:58,835 --> 00:07:00,625 and I wasn't allowed to have any of that. 191 00:07:00,670 --> 00:07:02,590 By the-- when I sat down on that plane, 192 00:07:02,630 --> 00:07:03,970 that was the first thing I did. 193 00:07:04,007 --> 00:07:05,717 I mean, if they would've given me an IV of it, 194 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:07,929 I would have taken it. Like, I drank so much Pepsi. 195 00:07:07,969 --> 00:07:10,889 And then my grandma would drop down, we'd go to the pier. 196 00:07:10,930 --> 00:07:12,810 We'd spend-- I spent a lot of time with my grandma. 197 00:07:12,849 --> 00:07:15,019 My grandma, who I have tattooed on my arm, 198 00:07:15,060 --> 00:07:17,730 ran my fan club out of my little kitchen 199 00:07:17,771 --> 00:07:20,111 of my dressing room my entire childhood. 200 00:07:20,148 --> 00:07:23,228 Signed every picture, unless she liked the picture of me, 201 00:07:23,276 --> 00:07:25,106 then she kept it and framed it and put it in her house. 202 00:07:25,153 --> 00:07:27,203 So, here-here's the question, right? 203 00:07:27,238 --> 00:07:29,528 And this is, this is the part where... 204 00:07:29,574 --> 00:07:31,204 I'm more curious than anything. 205 00:07:31,242 --> 00:07:34,122 You know, you-you say there's a lot of back and forth, 206 00:07:34,162 --> 00:07:36,292 uh, with you with the callbacks and stuff. 207 00:07:36,331 --> 00:07:37,921 You get the part for the show. 208 00:07:37,957 --> 00:07:40,287 The show ends up becoming a hit and success that it is. 209 00:07:40,335 --> 00:07:42,245 Well, actually... 210 00:07:42,295 --> 00:07:44,455 they hired someone else. 211 00:07:44,506 --> 00:07:46,046 They didn't hire me because... 212 00:07:46,091 --> 00:07:48,341 So I got called back, called back, called back, 213 00:07:48,385 --> 00:07:52,845 and then they said I was too small, too young. 214 00:07:52,889 --> 00:07:55,229 I had, I literally had, like, four teeth. 215 00:07:55,266 --> 00:07:58,806 I'm from Nashville. That's, like, kind of a normal thing. 216 00:07:58,853 --> 00:08:00,613 -(laughing) -But I really only had four teeth, 217 00:08:00,647 --> 00:08:02,977 and on those four teeth were braces. 218 00:08:03,024 --> 00:08:04,904 And I remember coming back for the callback-- 219 00:08:04,943 --> 00:08:06,193 somehow I lost, like... 220 00:08:06,236 --> 00:08:07,946 Give me a real number of teeth. Like... 221 00:08:07,987 --> 00:08:09,817 -give me a real number, Miley. -Dude, I don't know 222 00:08:09,864 --> 00:08:10,954 if you put up pictures in the show. 223 00:08:10,990 --> 00:08:12,280 When I show you a picture-- 224 00:08:12,325 --> 00:08:13,825 I had four teeth, 225 00:08:13,868 --> 00:08:15,578 and the four teeth I did have had braces on them. 226 00:08:15,620 --> 00:08:17,160 -Okay. All right. -But... I don't know 227 00:08:17,205 --> 00:08:19,075 if you've ever seen clear braces. 228 00:08:19,124 --> 00:08:22,094 -Don't do it, because they just looked nasty. -(laughing) 229 00:08:22,127 --> 00:08:24,747 And my mom was like, "We have to get the clear ones, 230 00:08:24,796 --> 00:08:26,506 "because you're doing all these callbacks 231 00:08:26,548 --> 00:08:27,718 "and no one wants to see Hannah Montana 232 00:08:27,757 --> 00:08:29,297 with big brackets on her teeth." 233 00:08:29,342 --> 00:08:31,642 So she got me the clear ones, but they were disgusting. 234 00:08:31,678 --> 00:08:33,678 After all those Pepsis with my grandma, 235 00:08:33,722 --> 00:08:35,432 they were, like, brown. 236 00:08:35,473 --> 00:08:39,353 And so then I showed up with, like, yeah, with my four teeth. 237 00:08:39,394 --> 00:08:42,234 And I remember them looking at me, like, "What happened?" 238 00:08:42,272 --> 00:08:44,942 -(laughing) -You know, kids, you're just changing so much. 239 00:08:44,983 --> 00:08:47,243 And, like, every time I would come back, 240 00:08:47,277 --> 00:08:49,277 something new would have changed. 241 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,450 Like, now I've got, like, cystic acne 242 00:08:51,489 --> 00:08:54,949 -'cause I'm growing... It kept getting kind of worse. -(laughing) 243 00:08:54,993 --> 00:08:57,663 Um, and so then they hired someone else. 244 00:08:57,704 --> 00:08:59,294 They shot a pilot. 245 00:08:59,330 --> 00:09:02,630 They went and showed the pilot to a bunch of kids, and... 246 00:09:02,667 --> 00:09:04,207 How long were you going back? So, um... 247 00:09:04,252 --> 00:09:06,252 From the time I was, uh, 248 00:09:06,296 --> 00:09:08,836 probably, like, ten, ten-and-a-half, 249 00:09:08,882 --> 00:09:10,432 and I booked it when I was 12. 250 00:09:10,467 --> 00:09:12,507 -So between two years... -Two years of auditioning? 251 00:09:12,552 --> 00:09:14,642 -Two years of auditioning. -Miley, are you kidding me? 252 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,059 And not getting the part. 253 00:09:16,097 --> 00:09:18,017 And then they showed it to these, you know, 254 00:09:18,058 --> 00:09:19,728 they showed it to kids. They'll do those, like, 255 00:09:19,768 --> 00:09:22,768 kind of screenings and see if people are resonating 256 00:09:22,812 --> 00:09:24,482 and relating to the characters. 257 00:09:24,522 --> 00:09:27,532 So, the show was in development for two-and-a-half years? 258 00:09:27,567 --> 00:09:30,147 -Yeah. And forth. -While you were going back... Wow. 259 00:09:30,195 --> 00:09:32,905 Kind of like a... almost like a "Ferris Bueller," 260 00:09:32,947 --> 00:09:34,277 like, "Max's Big Day Off." 261 00:09:34,324 --> 00:09:36,244 So I thought for sure I had got the role. 262 00:09:36,284 --> 00:09:38,084 -Mm-hmm. -So I kind of started, like, 263 00:09:38,119 --> 00:09:39,869 wreaking havoc at my school 264 00:09:39,913 --> 00:09:41,583 because I thought I was never gonna have to go back. 265 00:09:41,623 --> 00:09:43,793 -(laughing) -And so, finally, I was like, you know what, 266 00:09:43,833 --> 00:09:45,093 I'm just gonna go crazy. 267 00:09:45,126 --> 00:09:46,666 All... I had, like, honestly, 268 00:09:46,711 --> 00:09:48,711 I had like six boyfriends, like, I was like, 269 00:09:48,755 --> 00:09:51,295 I'm just gonna, like, figure all this out. 270 00:09:51,341 --> 00:09:52,931 Then they didn't cast me. 271 00:09:52,967 --> 00:09:54,887 And then I was stuck. Everyone, like... 272 00:09:54,928 --> 00:09:57,848 I had just turned everyone kind of against me. 273 00:09:57,889 --> 00:09:59,219 At that point... 274 00:09:59,265 --> 00:10:01,385 I was trying to basically just make out 275 00:10:01,434 --> 00:10:03,234 with everyone that was at my school. 276 00:10:03,269 --> 00:10:06,439 -(laughing) -And I remember I had gone to Canada, 277 00:10:06,481 --> 00:10:09,401 and someone had explained to me what French kissing was. 278 00:10:09,442 --> 00:10:11,952 And I came back and I told the whole class, 279 00:10:11,986 --> 00:10:13,696 "Guess what I learned while I was in Canada." 280 00:10:13,738 --> 00:10:15,448 And, like, I could tell, like, all the teachers were like, 281 00:10:15,490 --> 00:10:17,120 "Oh, this is gonna be great, What did you learn 282 00:10:17,158 --> 00:10:18,488 while you were traveling outside of the country?" 283 00:10:18,535 --> 00:10:20,405 I was like, "I learned how to French kiss." 284 00:10:20,453 --> 00:10:23,003 And then I wanted to show this girl that was in my class, 285 00:10:23,039 --> 00:10:24,289 and she went with it. 286 00:10:24,332 --> 00:10:26,292 And then I got in-school suspension, 287 00:10:26,334 --> 00:10:28,464 which they put me in this, like... 288 00:10:28,503 --> 00:10:30,593 I don't know if you're allowed to humiliate kids 289 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:32,550 -at school anymore. -No, you're not. 290 00:10:32,590 --> 00:10:34,470 -You're not supposed to... -There was, like, a glass room where there was, 291 00:10:34,509 --> 00:10:36,299 like, in-school suspension, and I was... 292 00:10:36,344 --> 00:10:39,144 I hold the record to be the youngest child 293 00:10:39,180 --> 00:10:41,060 to ever get suspended in my school. 294 00:10:41,099 --> 00:10:42,639 * Dun, da, da, da. * 295 00:10:42,684 --> 00:10:44,694 -By the way, are you proud? -Yeah. 296 00:10:44,728 --> 00:10:46,978 * * 297 00:11:01,703 --> 00:11:04,963 When you say... All right, there's this rebel in you. 298 00:11:04,998 --> 00:11:06,458 There's this thing that you have. 299 00:11:06,499 --> 00:11:07,919 And you're aware of it. You're not blind to it. 300 00:11:07,959 --> 00:11:10,049 You're like, "Look, I was... I was... 301 00:11:10,086 --> 00:11:12,086 "I was a wild kid. I was a bad kid. 302 00:11:12,130 --> 00:11:13,760 At this point, I was doing 'X,' 'Y,' 'Z.'" 303 00:11:13,798 --> 00:11:15,298 Where do you think it came from? 304 00:11:15,342 --> 00:11:17,392 Um... 305 00:11:17,427 --> 00:11:21,887 Probably my dad's mother. 306 00:11:21,931 --> 00:11:25,141 -Okay. -Who, um, basically... 307 00:11:25,185 --> 00:11:27,895 Yeah, she just-just lived. 308 00:11:27,937 --> 00:11:29,857 -We'll just leave it at "She lived." -Okay. 309 00:11:29,898 --> 00:11:33,568 And she drives a lawn mower 310 00:11:33,610 --> 00:11:34,990 like it's a car. 311 00:11:35,028 --> 00:11:36,648 -Okay. -Because she's not allowed to drive 312 00:11:36,696 --> 00:11:39,236 because she's had a lot of, like... 313 00:11:39,282 --> 00:11:41,282 -She likes to drink some alcohol. -Yeah, she had 314 00:11:41,326 --> 00:11:42,986 -some trouble. -So, we took her... 315 00:11:43,036 --> 00:11:43,906 -She had some DUI trouble. -They took her license, 316 00:11:43,953 --> 00:11:45,373 but she's like, 317 00:11:45,413 --> 00:11:47,333 "You don't need a license to drive a lawn mower." 318 00:11:47,374 --> 00:11:50,344 (chuckles): So she takes the lawn mower everywhere. 319 00:11:50,377 --> 00:11:54,837 She is usually in little, like, white booty shorts, 320 00:11:54,881 --> 00:11:56,761 which no one wants to see their grandma in. 321 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,340 But, like, I... But love her. 322 00:11:58,385 --> 00:12:01,845 And she wears these, like, Looney Tunes shoes, 323 00:12:01,888 --> 00:12:03,968 and-- which is very fitting-- 324 00:12:04,015 --> 00:12:05,675 and she drives a lawn mower like a vehicle. 325 00:12:05,725 --> 00:12:08,645 And y-you're... But you're... You couldn't be happier. 326 00:12:08,687 --> 00:12:10,477 -You couldn't be ha... -Yeah. And she has all white hair 327 00:12:10,522 --> 00:12:12,322 but, like, fire red eyebrows. 328 00:12:12,357 --> 00:12:14,687 -And she only uses... (chuckles) -(laughing) 329 00:12:14,734 --> 00:12:16,154 She uses 330 00:12:16,194 --> 00:12:17,454 the same... She's used the same nail polish 331 00:12:17,487 --> 00:12:19,527 her whole life, which is periwinkle. 332 00:12:19,572 --> 00:12:21,412 And, uh, last time... 333 00:12:21,449 --> 00:12:23,539 The one thing that was kind of really good during quarantine 334 00:12:23,576 --> 00:12:26,036 was I went and spent a lot of time with my family, 335 00:12:26,079 --> 00:12:27,579 -and I learned a lot of things. -Mm-hmm. 336 00:12:27,622 --> 00:12:29,212 Like, I never noticed 337 00:12:29,249 --> 00:12:31,129 the periwinkle nail polish, and there was a whole story. 338 00:12:31,167 --> 00:12:34,627 And, so, I... I think a lot of us, like... 339 00:12:34,671 --> 00:12:36,721 I mean, some of us were keeping our distance, 340 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:39,506 but we kind of isolated on this farm, which is my dad... 341 00:12:39,551 --> 00:12:42,511 My dad's been isolating on his farm since 1992, 342 00:12:42,554 --> 00:12:45,724 and he kept looking at us going, "Isn't this great? 343 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:47,225 I've been telling you guys." 344 00:12:47,267 --> 00:12:49,187 Like, you know, social distancing? 345 00:12:49,227 --> 00:12:50,977 My dad's been social distancing. 346 00:12:51,021 --> 00:12:52,561 -He's been isolating. -He's been... He's been living a... 347 00:12:52,605 --> 00:12:54,645 -He's been in quarantine. -...a life of quarantine 348 00:12:54,691 --> 00:12:55,731 -for a long time. -Yeah. 349 00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:57,185 -Yeah. -So, all right. 350 00:12:57,235 --> 00:12:58,605 So, then you get the... You get the fucking show. 351 00:12:58,653 --> 00:13:00,113 Like, you get the show. 352 00:13:00,155 --> 00:13:02,445 Now that you got the show, you know, this-this... 353 00:13:02,490 --> 00:13:05,240 the rebel that once was 354 00:13:05,285 --> 00:13:07,695 back here in Tennessee, well, you can't... 355 00:13:07,746 --> 00:13:09,906 -You can't give that presentation to them. -Yeah. 356 00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:13,456 But I was also... So, as much as I was a rebel, 357 00:13:13,501 --> 00:13:15,631 I also... 358 00:13:15,670 --> 00:13:17,260 I think there was... 359 00:13:17,297 --> 00:13:19,917 I never did anything, even as a child, 360 00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:22,136 -to intentionally hurt anyone. -Got you. 361 00:13:22,177 --> 00:13:23,757 -Got you. Mm-hmm. -You know? So my rebellion... 362 00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:26,143 Except the boys. Fuck the boys. 363 00:13:26,181 --> 00:13:28,391 -You know what I'm saying? These boys... -Okay. They're stupid boys. 364 00:13:28,433 --> 00:13:31,563 Yeah, these boys, they-they deserved it. 365 00:13:31,603 --> 00:13:32,983 But not... I mean... 366 00:13:33,021 --> 00:13:35,021 I wouldn't have been... Like, it's not all boys. 367 00:13:35,065 --> 00:13:36,935 Oh, it was a whole thing. Well, one of them told me 368 00:13:36,983 --> 00:13:38,943 that there was a rumor going around, 369 00:13:38,985 --> 00:13:40,445 which now I take as a compliment. 370 00:13:40,487 --> 00:13:42,277 They said that he only wanted to be my boyfriend 371 00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:44,452 'cause he knew one day, I was gonna be a big star. 372 00:13:44,491 --> 00:13:47,831 But I didn't even know. And my... Because I always had 373 00:13:47,869 --> 00:13:50,959 a really low, raspy voice, my drama teacher 374 00:13:50,997 --> 00:13:53,287 -would only... (groans) -(laughing) 375 00:13:53,333 --> 00:13:56,423 ...would only-- who I do hope is watching-- 376 00:13:56,461 --> 00:14:01,051 would only hire me as, like, some old man. 377 00:14:01,091 --> 00:14:02,341 Like, I was always, 378 00:14:02,384 --> 00:14:04,804 like, the fisherman with two lines, 379 00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:06,144 where I would be like, 380 00:14:06,179 --> 00:14:07,969 "Hello." Like, "Welcome to my boat." 381 00:14:08,014 --> 00:14:09,474 Or, like, something weird. 382 00:14:09,516 --> 00:14:13,306 And, so, yeah, she-she had it out for me, 383 00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:16,063 and so she... Yeah, she made me, like, the old, hairy man 384 00:14:16,106 --> 00:14:18,646 in, like, every friggin' play that we had. 385 00:14:18,692 --> 00:14:21,152 Um, her son 386 00:14:21,194 --> 00:14:23,744 was one of the boyfriends that I was cheating on, 387 00:14:23,780 --> 00:14:25,910 -so I got my revenge. -News to you. Who got the last laugh? 388 00:14:25,949 --> 00:14:27,199 -Yeah, I got... -Huh? 389 00:14:27,242 --> 00:14:29,242 I got my revenge. But, anyways, so then, 390 00:14:29,285 --> 00:14:31,325 no one really knew that I was really gonna do anything 391 00:14:31,371 --> 00:14:34,081 because she never really let me shine. 392 00:14:34,124 --> 00:14:37,594 -Got you. -Except for one play, I... 393 00:14:37,627 --> 00:14:40,207 We all got to write, like, our own monologue, 394 00:14:40,255 --> 00:14:42,505 and I did a... I wrote a monologue 395 00:14:42,549 --> 00:14:45,469 about, like, metamorphosis, about, like, evolving 396 00:14:45,510 --> 00:14:47,350 from a caterpillar into a butterfly. 397 00:14:47,387 --> 00:14:49,597 And I came dressed as the butterfly and the whole thing. 398 00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:52,179 And everyone started crying, because it was like... 399 00:14:52,225 --> 00:14:53,845 I think it was... It was really... 400 00:14:53,893 --> 00:14:55,273 It wasn't really about the butterflies. 401 00:14:55,311 --> 00:14:56,941 It was about everyone that I could see, 402 00:14:56,980 --> 00:14:58,190 and I could see, like, the potential 403 00:14:58,231 --> 00:14:59,571 -in my class, and, like... -Oh, wow. 404 00:14:59,607 --> 00:15:01,147 -I could also... -I thought you were gonna say 405 00:15:01,192 --> 00:15:02,612 -it was about you. -I mean, it was about me, 406 00:15:02,652 --> 00:15:05,032 but it was also, like, I feel like that's a... 407 00:15:05,071 --> 00:15:07,201 I really... 408 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,330 Something that's really important to me 409 00:15:09,367 --> 00:15:11,077 is helping other people find 410 00:15:11,119 --> 00:15:13,199 -their fullest potential, also. -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 411 00:15:13,246 --> 00:15:15,366 Um, but that's something in my adult life 412 00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:18,125 that I've also had to detach from slightly 413 00:15:18,168 --> 00:15:20,128 because sometimes, you can see something 414 00:15:20,170 --> 00:15:21,880 in someone that they can't always see 415 00:15:21,921 --> 00:15:23,381 -in themselves. -That they can't see in themselves. Yeah. 416 00:15:23,423 --> 00:15:24,883 And so it can be very frustrating. 417 00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:26,384 And so you have to... 418 00:15:26,426 --> 00:15:28,466 come from a place of love and support 419 00:15:28,511 --> 00:15:30,561 but not in a place of, "Well, look what I've done. 420 00:15:30,597 --> 00:15:33,177 If you follow..." It's like, everyone's gonna find 421 00:15:33,224 --> 00:15:36,144 their own place at their own time, 422 00:15:36,186 --> 00:15:38,186 -and... -I just had this same conversation 423 00:15:38,229 --> 00:15:40,149 -two weeks ago. -It's so... 424 00:15:40,190 --> 00:15:41,400 -With? -I swear to God. 425 00:15:41,441 --> 00:15:43,941 I-I just had the same conversation 426 00:15:43,985 --> 00:15:45,985 with Will Smith two weeks ago, 427 00:15:46,029 --> 00:15:48,109 and Will Smith was talking to me 428 00:15:48,156 --> 00:15:51,526 about, uh, giving advice. 429 00:15:51,576 --> 00:15:54,156 -Mm-hmm. -And how he's now learned 430 00:15:54,204 --> 00:15:57,754 that the way that he used to give advice 431 00:15:57,791 --> 00:16:00,001 was coming from such a arrogant, 432 00:16:00,043 --> 00:16:03,673 -uh, and cocky perspective of... -Mm-hmm. 433 00:16:03,713 --> 00:16:06,473 -I try to avoid advice. -He-he was saying, like, 434 00:16:06,508 --> 00:16:08,888 "I-I basically was giving advice to say, 435 00:16:08,927 --> 00:16:12,257 -'Here's how I've done it, and now you can do it, too.'" -Mm-hmm. 436 00:16:12,305 --> 00:16:13,595 Which is ultimately saying, 437 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,180 "You can do this and then become me." 438 00:16:16,226 --> 00:16:17,596 And when he said it, 439 00:16:17,644 --> 00:16:19,314 a light bulb went off to me in that time, 440 00:16:19,354 --> 00:16:20,614 and I was like, "Damn." 441 00:16:20,647 --> 00:16:22,107 You know, I'm guilty of the same thing. 442 00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:23,728 Like, we had a real conversation, 443 00:16:23,775 --> 00:16:25,605 -and it's all information now. -I think... I think living 444 00:16:25,652 --> 00:16:27,322 without expectations 445 00:16:27,362 --> 00:16:30,872 and knowing that no one 446 00:16:30,907 --> 00:16:33,697 -owes you anything... -Mm-hmm. 447 00:16:33,743 --> 00:16:37,753 That's been something that has just changed 448 00:16:37,789 --> 00:16:41,839 the way that I'm able 449 00:16:41,876 --> 00:16:43,246 to express my compassion. 450 00:16:43,294 --> 00:16:44,804 I mean, I've lived, like, 451 00:16:44,838 --> 00:16:46,548 -so many lives. We really all have. -Yeah. 452 00:16:46,589 --> 00:16:48,129 -You know? Like, I feel... -In different stages. 453 00:16:48,174 --> 00:16:49,634 -Different stages in life. -Everyone lives 454 00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:51,926 in such these, like, you know... in these chapters. 455 00:16:51,970 --> 00:16:55,680 And sometimes, when you look at someone that you've been, 456 00:16:55,724 --> 00:16:57,484 it can almost feel like you're looking 457 00:16:57,517 --> 00:17:00,557 at someone that you don't know at all, 'cause my life 458 00:17:00,603 --> 00:17:01,813 is so... 459 00:17:01,855 --> 00:17:03,975 I cannot believe it's my own. 460 00:17:04,024 --> 00:17:07,284 I truly believe I'm one of the luckiest fucking people. 461 00:17:07,318 --> 00:17:09,648 I'm sitting with you in a castle, drinking wine, laughing. 462 00:17:09,696 --> 00:17:12,736 Everyone here is so amazing for putting this together, 463 00:17:12,782 --> 00:17:15,082 and I get to talk about my life. 464 00:17:15,118 --> 00:17:16,448 And, like, my life is... 465 00:17:16,494 --> 00:17:18,584 I cannot believe it's mine. I feel so lucky. 466 00:17:18,621 --> 00:17:20,501 So I have a hard time admitting 467 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:23,000 that I maybe need help balancing something 468 00:17:23,043 --> 00:17:24,423 because I'm overwhelmed 469 00:17:24,461 --> 00:17:27,091 because I feel guilty about being overwhelmed. 470 00:17:27,130 --> 00:17:31,380 Because how dare I for a second feel... 471 00:17:32,302 --> 00:17:34,182 ...you know, I guess, some sort 472 00:17:34,220 --> 00:17:37,970 of hurt or fear, because... Almost like I don't deserve it. 473 00:17:38,016 --> 00:17:40,306 But I also... 474 00:17:40,352 --> 00:17:43,062 have become much more 475 00:17:43,104 --> 00:17:44,814 fluid and flexible 476 00:17:44,856 --> 00:17:48,776 and way less concrete in this... in my sense of self. 477 00:17:48,818 --> 00:17:51,738 And I... 478 00:17:51,780 --> 00:17:56,410 don't really have a definite sense of who I am. 479 00:18:13,677 --> 00:18:16,387 You said, like, sometimes, you feel... you feel guilty. 480 00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:19,349 -Mm-hmm. -Like, you know, "Oh, my God. I have this life. 481 00:18:19,391 --> 00:18:21,141 "I have this-this thing 482 00:18:21,184 --> 00:18:23,404 "and all of these things, and I'm so lucky. 483 00:18:23,436 --> 00:18:27,356 Sometimes I feel bad about feeling a certain way." 484 00:18:27,399 --> 00:18:31,359 I wonder why you feel guilty about that 485 00:18:31,403 --> 00:18:34,663 when, yes, you-you can attach luck to it. 486 00:18:34,698 --> 00:18:38,448 Let's not... Let's not... Let's not attach luck, 487 00:18:38,493 --> 00:18:41,083 -because, of course, there is some luck. -Mm-hmm. 488 00:18:41,121 --> 00:18:42,661 But you just got finished talking to me 489 00:18:42,706 --> 00:18:46,536 about, uh, a consistent drive from Nashville to L.A. 490 00:18:46,584 --> 00:18:48,044 -That's not luck. -Mm-hmm. 491 00:18:48,086 --> 00:18:50,296 But, I mean, even when we started this conversation 492 00:18:50,338 --> 00:18:52,468 and you said, like, "I'm really interested 493 00:18:52,507 --> 00:18:54,797 in talking to people that started..." 494 00:18:54,843 --> 00:18:56,143 You said something like, 495 00:18:56,177 --> 00:18:57,677 "Started at the bottom and now... 496 00:18:57,721 --> 00:18:59,391 -and-and made it" or something. -Absolutely. 497 00:18:59,431 --> 00:19:01,311 I really had a hard time with that, because my brain 498 00:19:01,349 --> 00:19:03,689 goes, "You wouldn't know what that is. 499 00:19:03,727 --> 00:19:05,227 -You wouldn't know what that's like." -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 500 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:07,860 -And, again, I think... -Wait, you say 501 00:19:07,897 --> 00:19:10,397 -your brain goes, as in the person... -My brain tells myself 502 00:19:10,442 --> 00:19:12,902 that I don't deserve that statement. 503 00:19:12,944 --> 00:19:14,574 -Why? -Uh, because... 504 00:19:14,612 --> 00:19:18,702 I'm working on this, but because I feel that... 505 00:19:18,742 --> 00:19:21,082 I think that I've got... 506 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,409 I-I know. I don't think. I know 507 00:19:23,455 --> 00:19:27,375 that if I took that moment to reprogram, 508 00:19:27,417 --> 00:19:29,087 which I'm doing now, 509 00:19:29,127 --> 00:19:31,167 to have a moment of gratitude 510 00:19:31,212 --> 00:19:34,842 that says, like, I... 511 00:19:34,883 --> 00:19:36,473 One, my parents. 512 00:19:36,509 --> 00:19:39,009 My mom got in the car 513 00:19:39,054 --> 00:19:42,144 -and drove her child for three days out of love. -Mm-hmm. 514 00:19:42,182 --> 00:19:44,272 Not to be famous. Not for me to be rich. 515 00:19:44,309 --> 00:19:45,729 -Not for me to take care of her. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 516 00:19:45,769 --> 00:19:48,099 For me to do what I love, my mom got in the car 517 00:19:48,146 --> 00:19:50,266 and would drive me across the country for three days. 518 00:19:50,315 --> 00:19:52,275 And then all my siblings picked up. 519 00:19:52,317 --> 00:19:53,687 Not only did I have to transfer 520 00:19:53,735 --> 00:19:55,315 and leave my school and leave my friends. 521 00:19:55,362 --> 00:19:57,862 All my siblings did the exact same thing for me, 522 00:19:57,906 --> 00:20:00,026 for their sister to go live their dream. 523 00:20:00,075 --> 00:20:01,485 -Mm-hmm. -And my dad, 524 00:20:01,534 --> 00:20:04,754 who was kicking and screaming 525 00:20:04,788 --> 00:20:06,368 the whole time until he got hired. 526 00:20:06,414 --> 00:20:08,294 Then he's like, "We're going to California!" 527 00:20:08,333 --> 00:20:10,543 But the whole time, he was always like, 528 00:20:10,585 --> 00:20:11,955 "I'm not leaving this farm. 529 00:20:12,003 --> 00:20:13,803 I..." And, you know, and then he's also... 530 00:20:13,838 --> 00:20:16,128 He told me, "This is gonna be a heartbreak. 531 00:20:16,174 --> 00:20:17,974 "Like, you are gonna get so many doors 532 00:20:18,009 --> 00:20:19,299 "slammed in your face. 533 00:20:19,344 --> 00:20:21,014 You are gonna have so much pressure." 534 00:20:21,054 --> 00:20:22,394 And I think that was just him 535 00:20:22,430 --> 00:20:24,140 trying to really protect me, but, again, 536 00:20:24,182 --> 00:20:25,852 he went with it, my whole family, so... 537 00:20:25,892 --> 00:20:30,272 I think if I took that moment to just acknowledge, 538 00:20:30,313 --> 00:20:33,073 "You're right, you know? Kevin just appreciated 539 00:20:33,108 --> 00:20:36,188 that you worked really hard." And that means a lot. 540 00:20:36,236 --> 00:20:40,366 And then, also, on top of that, the... 541 00:20:40,407 --> 00:20:44,987 like, miraculous truth 542 00:20:45,036 --> 00:20:48,326 that my family, out of all the families 543 00:20:48,373 --> 00:20:51,083 that I could have come from the heavens 544 00:20:51,126 --> 00:20:52,876 and been a part of 545 00:20:52,919 --> 00:20:54,499 is the one that I have. 546 00:20:54,546 --> 00:20:56,126 -Mm-hmm. -And it happens to be 547 00:20:56,172 --> 00:20:58,092 a dad who... 548 00:20:58,133 --> 00:21:00,343 Our jukebox was just filled 549 00:21:00,385 --> 00:21:02,845 with female rock and roll singers, 550 00:21:02,887 --> 00:21:04,257 -blues singers. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 551 00:21:04,305 --> 00:21:07,225 My dad... I hated Etta James 552 00:21:07,267 --> 00:21:08,687 by the time "Hannah Montana" was over 553 00:21:08,727 --> 00:21:11,347 because my dad played it every single day. 554 00:21:11,396 --> 00:21:14,396 -Mm-hmm. -And Stevie Nicks and Joan 555 00:21:14,441 --> 00:21:18,781 and, you know. So my dad, he celebrated women. 556 00:21:18,820 --> 00:21:22,200 He celebrated... I think that's why I'm so, 557 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,950 um, kind of steadfast in the idea of what I want, 558 00:21:24,993 --> 00:21:27,003 is 'cause dad showed me Janis Joplin. 559 00:21:27,037 --> 00:21:30,247 My dad would, you know, watch Debbie Harry. 560 00:21:30,290 --> 00:21:32,000 And so I have this, like, father 561 00:21:32,042 --> 00:21:34,882 who never told me, "Don't pick up a guitar." 562 00:21:34,919 --> 00:21:37,049 -You know, "Go grab ballet slippers or something." -Mm-hmm. 563 00:21:37,088 --> 00:21:39,128 -Mm-hmm. -He always said, "Go pick up the electric guitar." 564 00:21:39,174 --> 00:21:41,514 My dad's left-handed. He'd had me playing an upside-down guitar 565 00:21:41,551 --> 00:21:44,431 -for my whole life, but that's just very much us. -(chuckles) 566 00:21:44,471 --> 00:21:47,971 And then my... mom, who... 567 00:21:48,016 --> 00:21:49,806 Anything I wanted to try, 568 00:21:49,851 --> 00:21:51,811 -like, she never judged me. -Mm-hmm. 569 00:21:51,853 --> 00:21:54,943 She watched me, you know, bounce off my head 570 00:21:54,981 --> 00:21:56,731 while trying to do back handsprings, 571 00:21:56,775 --> 00:21:58,355 and she took me to go to all my... 572 00:21:58,401 --> 00:22:01,071 My mom was just so dedicated to her kids. 573 00:22:01,112 --> 00:22:02,572 And-and there was five of us, 574 00:22:02,614 --> 00:22:04,574 so she did that equally for all of us. 575 00:22:04,616 --> 00:22:06,526 My siblings were so selfless. 576 00:22:06,576 --> 00:22:09,036 Like, if I could've just taken that moment of... 577 00:22:09,079 --> 00:22:10,709 to have gratitude instead, 578 00:22:10,747 --> 00:22:12,667 it would've changed the whole conversation. 579 00:22:12,707 --> 00:22:14,627 I'm gonna tell you something. 580 00:22:14,668 --> 00:22:16,918 First of all, I'm-I'm no therapist. 581 00:22:16,961 --> 00:22:19,091 Okay? Not in any way, shape or form. 582 00:22:19,130 --> 00:22:21,880 But I'm... From listening to you, there's a lot of self-work. 583 00:22:21,925 --> 00:22:24,585 There's a lot of self-evolvement. 584 00:22:24,636 --> 00:22:26,966 Like, there's... And I can-I can-I can hear it. 585 00:22:27,013 --> 00:22:28,353 I can see it. 586 00:22:28,390 --> 00:22:30,020 I'm not a spiritual guy. 587 00:22:30,058 --> 00:22:32,518 -I'm not, like, overly spiritual. -Mm. 588 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,060 I believe that... 589 00:22:34,104 --> 00:22:37,774 stars could possibly be... 590 00:22:37,816 --> 00:22:39,106 picked. 591 00:22:39,150 --> 00:22:42,450 You could possibly be picked from the gate. 592 00:22:42,487 --> 00:22:44,107 When you first talked to me, you talked to me 593 00:22:44,155 --> 00:22:46,615 about a small town. You're talking about a farm. 594 00:22:46,658 --> 00:22:48,908 -And you're talking about "I outgrew." -Mm-hmm. 595 00:22:48,952 --> 00:22:50,952 It was... it was already a thing. It was... 596 00:22:50,995 --> 00:22:52,745 "It just wasn't for me. I was..." 597 00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:54,619 It was in you from the beginning. 598 00:22:54,666 --> 00:22:57,286 -Mm. -Whether you... whether you felt it or not. 599 00:22:57,335 --> 00:22:59,455 I wish I could sit up here and say 600 00:22:59,504 --> 00:23:01,424 I didn't have star-like qualities as a child. 601 00:23:01,464 --> 00:23:03,884 -I'm not being cocky. -Mm. 602 00:23:03,925 --> 00:23:07,215 But I'm telling you, as a young kid, I had it. 603 00:23:07,262 --> 00:23:09,142 -Mm-hmm. -I had it. 604 00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:10,770 At a... at a event 605 00:23:10,807 --> 00:23:14,307 when my swim team was giving out awards and trophies, 606 00:23:14,352 --> 00:23:16,232 -I was the worst swimmer. -(chuckles) 607 00:23:16,271 --> 00:23:17,771 I never practiced or nothing. 608 00:23:17,814 --> 00:23:19,824 But I chose the banquet... 609 00:23:19,858 --> 00:23:21,358 When we're supposed to come up and say thank yous, 610 00:23:21,401 --> 00:23:24,321 I did a monologue that was basically a comedy routine. 611 00:23:24,362 --> 00:23:25,862 -It wasn't written. -Yeah. Yeah. 612 00:23:25,905 --> 00:23:27,775 It was off the top. Everybody's falling out their seats. 613 00:23:27,824 --> 00:23:30,244 -Yeah. -When I look back at that moment now, oh, my God. 614 00:23:30,285 --> 00:23:33,325 -Yeah. -It was always in me to be a comedian. 615 00:23:33,371 --> 00:23:35,871 -Mm. -The road to discovery of how I was gonna do it, 616 00:23:35,915 --> 00:23:37,915 well, that was one that... you know, it kind of... 617 00:23:37,959 --> 00:23:39,589 it kind of mapped out the way it was. 618 00:23:39,627 --> 00:23:40,997 -But I was chosen. -Yeah. 619 00:23:41,046 --> 00:23:45,046 -That's not luck. -And I feel that my... 620 00:23:45,091 --> 00:23:47,341 You know, like we were talking to... 621 00:23:47,385 --> 00:23:49,595 you know, about being a sommelier 622 00:23:49,637 --> 00:23:51,887 or anything you want to become, my diligence... 623 00:23:51,931 --> 00:23:55,061 And I know that my diligence and my efforts 624 00:23:55,101 --> 00:23:57,151 and my dedication 625 00:23:57,187 --> 00:24:00,857 is what really got me into the position that I'm in 626 00:24:00,899 --> 00:24:03,319 -and it... what keeps me here. -Mm-hmm. Mm. 627 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:05,570 * * 628 00:24:14,412 --> 00:24:16,662 * * 629 00:24:19,584 --> 00:24:21,804 When we talked about that rebellion-- 630 00:24:21,836 --> 00:24:23,046 I think a lot of the rebellion-- 631 00:24:23,088 --> 00:24:24,298 I actually feel like I wasn't able 632 00:24:24,339 --> 00:24:25,839 because I was so in my head. 633 00:24:25,882 --> 00:24:27,722 Now I feel like I can articulate it better than I could 634 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:29,049 when we started... 635 00:24:29,094 --> 00:24:31,224 was the rebellion also was coming as a... 636 00:24:31,262 --> 00:24:34,222 to me, as a form of entertainment for my class 637 00:24:34,265 --> 00:24:35,555 and for my friends. 638 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,770 I mean, when I was, like, you know, again... 639 00:24:39,604 --> 00:24:41,064 Who I am... It's so funny, 640 00:24:41,106 --> 00:24:43,436 because we just talked so much about evolution-- 641 00:24:43,483 --> 00:24:46,903 who I am sitting in this chair 642 00:24:46,945 --> 00:24:50,025 is almost exactly who was sitting in that chair 643 00:24:50,073 --> 00:24:52,243 -in the classroom with the... spitting out the notes. -So dope. 644 00:24:52,283 --> 00:24:56,373 -So dope. -But also completely fucking whole-r. 645 00:24:56,413 --> 00:24:58,753 Like, I'm also so different. 646 00:24:58,790 --> 00:25:00,830 -Mm-hmm. -And, for me, 647 00:25:00,875 --> 00:25:03,915 because... there was so much focus 648 00:25:03,962 --> 00:25:06,592 on who I... who I was at a time, 649 00:25:06,631 --> 00:25:08,261 which was a character, 650 00:25:08,299 --> 00:25:11,719 um, and there were... again, a lot of my-my value as a human 651 00:25:11,761 --> 00:25:13,761 was chalked up to that, you know, 652 00:25:13,805 --> 00:25:15,425 to Hannah Montana, to that identity. 653 00:25:15,473 --> 00:25:17,183 So, I got cast at 12 years old, 654 00:25:17,225 --> 00:25:20,685 and that's obviously just the spongiest, 655 00:25:20,729 --> 00:25:22,939 most absorbent time in your life 656 00:25:22,981 --> 00:25:26,231 and, again, a-a time of just self-discovery 657 00:25:26,276 --> 00:25:29,026 and there's just so many things that are happening and changing 658 00:25:29,070 --> 00:25:31,570 and just, you know... Again, I have five brothers and sisters 659 00:25:31,614 --> 00:25:34,834 and they're growing up and we're figuring out our dynamic. 660 00:25:34,868 --> 00:25:37,658 And, um, you know, the concept of the show 661 00:25:37,704 --> 00:25:41,674 is that when I would alter my image 662 00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:43,788 and I would put on a wig and I would, 663 00:25:43,835 --> 00:25:45,795 you know, put on sparkly things, 664 00:25:45,837 --> 00:25:49,297 -that I held a new value... -Mm-hmm. 665 00:25:49,341 --> 00:25:50,631 ...that I was valuable. 666 00:25:50,675 --> 00:25:53,135 Um, it did translate into my real life. 667 00:25:53,178 --> 00:25:55,008 There was... 668 00:25:56,431 --> 00:25:58,851 ...a different level of, like, 669 00:25:58,892 --> 00:26:00,642 hysteria when Hannah Mon... 670 00:26:00,685 --> 00:26:02,805 I mean, it was actually kind of crazy being Hannah Montana. 671 00:26:02,854 --> 00:26:04,654 Now I have a hard time remembering 672 00:26:04,689 --> 00:26:07,319 exactly what that felt like, but, um, 673 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,899 there was, you know, the way that kids would react 674 00:26:10,945 --> 00:26:12,445 at these, like, Hannah shows 675 00:26:12,489 --> 00:26:16,279 versus when I was myself and I would meet fans out. 676 00:26:16,326 --> 00:26:19,196 -It was... it was different. And so... -Mm. 677 00:26:19,245 --> 00:26:21,995 Again, o-on that, like, kind of psychological level, 678 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,880 um, I guess that's kind of why, originally, 679 00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:27,629 um... 680 00:26:27,671 --> 00:26:29,301 when I first started doing, 681 00:26:29,339 --> 00:26:33,089 like, solo projects as my own identity, 682 00:26:33,134 --> 00:26:35,354 -I'd almost create... -Mm-hmm. 683 00:26:35,387 --> 00:26:37,597 kind of alter egos of myself. 684 00:26:37,639 --> 00:26:40,059 Because I thought you almost... 685 00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:42,810 that I, Miley... 'Cause my name was Miley on the show, too, 686 00:26:42,852 --> 00:26:44,192 which it wasn't. You know, 687 00:26:44,229 --> 00:26:45,689 when my... when my friends from Nashville 688 00:26:45,730 --> 00:26:47,900 were going to audition, obviously, the... 689 00:26:47,941 --> 00:26:51,361 the name wasn't Miley, but I embodied the character so much 690 00:26:51,403 --> 00:26:53,863 that... they... 691 00:26:53,905 --> 00:26:55,525 the writers thought it made most sense 692 00:26:55,573 --> 00:26:57,373 for Hannah to be Miley 693 00:26:57,409 --> 00:27:00,199 because of how much I truly was the character. 694 00:27:00,245 --> 00:27:02,535 -Wow. -And it didn't really feel like a character. 695 00:27:02,580 --> 00:27:04,210 I just said, "Okay, 696 00:27:04,249 --> 00:27:05,789 "someone's told me I'm Hannah Montana. 697 00:27:05,834 --> 00:27:07,544 I am now Hannah Montana." 698 00:27:07,585 --> 00:27:09,545 -And anything that I create for her... -One... You're in. 699 00:27:09,587 --> 00:27:10,707 -100%. ...I am in. It's like... 700 00:27:10,755 --> 00:27:12,085 It's beyond method, 701 00:27:12,132 --> 00:27:15,592 because I was growing up as her. She was me. 702 00:27:15,635 --> 00:27:17,715 Like, there was no divide between us. 703 00:27:17,762 --> 00:27:19,682 That's who I was. 704 00:27:19,723 --> 00:27:22,023 There was the 15-year Hannahversary. 705 00:27:22,058 --> 00:27:24,978 And this was 15 years of my show being on air. 706 00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:27,940 -And I spent the day... -(exhales) 707 00:27:27,981 --> 00:27:28,731 Wow. 708 00:27:28,773 --> 00:27:30,323 ...thinking, 709 00:27:30,358 --> 00:27:32,898 "What do I want to do with my next 15 years?" 710 00:27:32,944 --> 00:27:34,574 That was what I dedicated my day to. 711 00:27:34,612 --> 00:27:37,322 And, usually, I would feel I wasn't doing enough if I wasn't, 712 00:27:37,365 --> 00:27:40,445 you know, talking with the fans, creating. 713 00:27:40,493 --> 00:27:43,753 But I thought, "This day is, like, bigger than a b..." 714 00:27:43,788 --> 00:27:45,538 It is a birthday, almost, to me. 715 00:27:45,582 --> 00:27:47,922 And, like, I really feel... 716 00:27:47,959 --> 00:27:49,499 we were talking about spirituality-- 717 00:27:49,544 --> 00:27:51,424 that I needed to, on that day-- 718 00:27:51,463 --> 00:27:54,303 I wrote a letter to Hannah Montana from myself. 719 00:27:54,341 --> 00:27:55,591 Holy shit. 720 00:27:55,633 --> 00:27:57,893 CYRUS: And it was about, you know, 721 00:27:57,927 --> 00:27:59,847 just my gratitude towards the character. 722 00:27:59,888 --> 00:28:01,848 Wa-Was it suggested? 723 00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:03,390 Or is this something that you... 724 00:28:03,433 --> 00:28:04,733 -you came up with and you did? -No, I thought about it. 725 00:28:04,768 --> 00:28:07,978 I thought about it. I, um... 726 00:28:08,021 --> 00:28:10,271 -That's strong. -I... I-I don't think anyone 727 00:28:10,315 --> 00:28:11,975 really could've told me to do it, 728 00:28:12,025 --> 00:28:15,605 because a lot of the people that are around me now 729 00:28:15,653 --> 00:28:17,533 were not in that three-day car ride 730 00:28:17,572 --> 00:28:19,622 -with me and my mom, you know? -That's strong, man. That's strong. 731 00:28:19,657 --> 00:28:21,527 That was like... 732 00:28:21,576 --> 00:28:23,036 It was just... 733 00:28:23,078 --> 00:28:24,948 Yeah, so now... so now when I wrote this letter 734 00:28:24,996 --> 00:28:27,826 and I was able to kind of, like... 735 00:28:27,874 --> 00:28:29,714 make peace with it, 736 00:28:29,751 --> 00:28:31,461 um, I thought... 737 00:28:31,503 --> 00:28:33,803 and "peace" being the kind of key word of the story-- 738 00:28:33,838 --> 00:28:38,178 is that, when I thought, "What do I want the next 15 years? 739 00:28:38,218 --> 00:28:40,298 What's my..." 'Cause I knew, when I was in that car, 740 00:28:40,345 --> 00:28:42,175 driving the three days to California, 741 00:28:42,222 --> 00:28:45,642 what I wanted, I guess, these next 15 years to look like. 742 00:28:45,684 --> 00:28:47,144 I knew what I wanted, so I was able 743 00:28:47,185 --> 00:28:49,395 to achieve it, because, everything that I did, 744 00:28:49,437 --> 00:28:52,017 I would know for a fact if I was taking a step forward 745 00:28:52,065 --> 00:28:54,315 or backwards, because I knew my destination. 746 00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:56,319 -Mm-hmm. -And I think, you know, 747 00:28:56,361 --> 00:28:58,701 clarity and knowing what you want, 748 00:28:58,738 --> 00:29:02,118 you're able to make each day count. 749 00:29:02,158 --> 00:29:05,998 So I really spent this anniversary 750 00:29:06,037 --> 00:29:07,577 thinking about what I wanted. 751 00:29:07,622 --> 00:29:09,962 And it's kind of vague, 752 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,040 um, but somehow says any... everything. 753 00:29:12,085 --> 00:29:14,835 It was about "I want to find peace." 754 00:29:14,879 --> 00:29:17,009 The way that people feel that they've been reborn 755 00:29:17,048 --> 00:29:18,508 -or saved... -Mm-hmm. 756 00:29:18,550 --> 00:29:21,510 ...I feel that I have been six weeks ago. 757 00:29:21,553 --> 00:29:24,143 I feel like everything changed six weeks ago for me. 758 00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:26,220 * * 759 00:29:35,233 --> 00:29:37,243 * * 760 00:29:40,363 --> 00:29:42,703 My mom also was amazing, 761 00:29:42,741 --> 00:29:45,121 and she... archived 762 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,950 -and kept everything from, like... -Mm-hmm. 763 00:29:47,996 --> 00:29:51,826 ...all my schedules, all... everything. 764 00:29:51,875 --> 00:29:53,995 Six weeks ago, I found this schedule-- 765 00:29:54,044 --> 00:29:56,054 one of the first times I'd ever traveled 766 00:29:56,087 --> 00:29:57,457 to promote "Hannah Montana." 767 00:29:57,505 --> 00:29:59,875 I was only, probably, like, 12 years old, 768 00:29:59,924 --> 00:30:01,974 and we were going to Europe. 769 00:30:02,010 --> 00:30:04,430 And, um, they even had, like, nap time 770 00:30:04,471 --> 00:30:07,431 -built in the schedule for me, 'cause I was a child. -Mm-hmm. 771 00:30:07,474 --> 00:30:11,104 And, um, when I looked at the schedule, 772 00:30:11,144 --> 00:30:14,944 I felt like this coat of, like, armor came on 773 00:30:14,981 --> 00:30:16,521 to protect 774 00:30:16,566 --> 00:30:20,446 my, uh, like, innocent ste... self that still lives. 775 00:30:20,487 --> 00:30:23,067 Because, actually, when I looked at that schedule, it upset me. 776 00:30:23,114 --> 00:30:26,584 Because I felt that it... 777 00:30:26,618 --> 00:30:29,698 wasn't really c-considering my best interests at... 778 00:30:29,746 --> 00:30:34,246 I don't think anyone did anything to ever intentionally, 779 00:30:34,292 --> 00:30:37,752 you know, abuse me as a child to work, 780 00:30:37,796 --> 00:30:39,586 because I wanted to do it. But the schedule now, 781 00:30:39,631 --> 00:30:41,551 if you would look at this for one of your own children, 782 00:30:41,591 --> 00:30:43,891 -I think you would be kind of in shock. -It's... It was... 783 00:30:43,927 --> 00:30:46,257 -It's insane. The-the hours, the work... -Yeah. I think it was... 784 00:30:46,304 --> 00:30:48,604 -...and what the... what the time's being dedicated to. -It was shocking. It was: land. 785 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,100 Get ready in the limo. 786 00:30:50,141 --> 00:30:54,561 In the limo, do, uh, interviews at the same time. 787 00:30:54,604 --> 00:30:55,944 Get to the hotel. 788 00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:57,610 You know, become Hannah. 789 00:30:57,649 --> 00:30:59,479 Do a concert. Go to the studio. 790 00:30:59,526 --> 00:31:01,566 There was really... And then there was, like, 20 minutes 791 00:31:01,611 --> 00:31:02,951 for nap time and lunch, 792 00:31:02,987 --> 00:31:05,197 which we know that you cannot have lunch 793 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,580 -and take a nap as a child in 20 minutes. -Mm-hmm. 794 00:31:08,618 --> 00:31:11,198 And when I looked at it, um... 795 00:31:11,246 --> 00:31:13,746 and one of my team members who's here said, 796 00:31:13,790 --> 00:31:14,750 "How does it make you feel?" 797 00:31:14,791 --> 00:31:17,291 My immediate reaction was 798 00:31:17,335 --> 00:31:18,955 that this is why I'm who I am 799 00:31:19,004 --> 00:31:21,134 and that everyone else around me, if you don't work this hard, 800 00:31:21,172 --> 00:31:23,302 -you're never gonna... It was the Will Smith, you know? -Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 801 00:31:23,341 --> 00:31:25,011 If you don't look at this schedule and know 802 00:31:25,051 --> 00:31:26,681 that this is what it takes, you're never... 803 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,430 My... Instead of knowing that, oh, it's... 804 00:31:29,472 --> 00:31:32,682 I'm act... That wasn't a place of... 805 00:31:32,726 --> 00:31:34,056 it... of the ego. 806 00:31:34,102 --> 00:31:36,402 It was actually a place of, like, hurt. 807 00:31:36,438 --> 00:31:40,188 -Mm. -And, like, I guess, as a child, that made me... 808 00:31:41,067 --> 00:31:43,487 It didn't feel like that was best for me. 809 00:31:43,528 --> 00:31:46,238 -Mm. -And so, by looking at that schedule 810 00:31:46,281 --> 00:31:48,491 and just putting my ego aside and going, 811 00:31:48,533 --> 00:31:51,163 "That, in some way, affected me and hurt me." 812 00:31:51,202 --> 00:31:53,122 You know, but instead of looking at that 813 00:31:53,163 --> 00:31:55,003 and going from that reaction of ego, like, 814 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,130 "I can't feel it. I can't admit it," 815 00:31:57,167 --> 00:32:00,337 I instead just even sent a text and said, 816 00:32:00,378 --> 00:32:03,338 "I'm really sorry that I kind of exploded at that moment." 817 00:32:03,381 --> 00:32:06,181 Because, really, what I... It was much easier to feel anger 818 00:32:06,217 --> 00:32:08,467 than to feel a little bit of, like, pain in that. 819 00:32:08,511 --> 00:32:10,641 And so, just looking at those things, 820 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,720 looking at the schedules, looking at... 821 00:32:12,766 --> 00:32:15,476 And also, it said in the beginning of the agenda, 822 00:32:15,518 --> 00:32:17,648 of the calendar, it said like, "We think 823 00:32:17,687 --> 00:32:20,147 "that if this week goes as planned, 824 00:32:20,190 --> 00:32:22,150 this is going to be a really huge success." 825 00:32:22,192 --> 00:32:24,032 And it basically, you know... 826 00:32:24,069 --> 00:32:25,779 There was... there was no importance 827 00:32:25,820 --> 00:32:27,200 of sleeping or eating. 828 00:32:27,238 --> 00:32:29,198 And so that-- at that age of 12 years old-- 829 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,780 taught me if you want to be successful, 830 00:32:30,825 --> 00:32:32,825 -you can't sleep and you can't eat. -Uh, what I... 831 00:32:32,869 --> 00:32:36,329 The great thing about what's happening right now... 832 00:32:38,124 --> 00:32:43,004 I can almost promise you... 833 00:32:43,046 --> 00:32:48,636 studios, producers, networks, right? 834 00:32:48,677 --> 00:32:50,217 Hearing a... 835 00:32:50,261 --> 00:32:52,181 a real talk, a real conversation, 836 00:32:52,222 --> 00:32:56,232 a real back-and-forth, and now hearing, 837 00:32:56,267 --> 00:32:59,937 well, the impact of said thing, or said workload... 838 00:32:59,979 --> 00:33:02,229 -Mm-hmm. -...right, on young adult, 839 00:33:02,273 --> 00:33:04,483 at whatever time in their life, 840 00:33:04,526 --> 00:33:07,106 "Oh, wow. We-we... 841 00:33:07,153 --> 00:33:09,953 -we can do better, right?" -Mm-hmm. 842 00:33:09,989 --> 00:33:11,569 Like, you're-you're... 843 00:33:11,616 --> 00:33:13,906 This conversation now... 844 00:33:13,952 --> 00:33:16,412 puts the pressure on those people 845 00:33:16,454 --> 00:33:20,464 that are in charge at those times, in those places 846 00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:22,130 to understand. 847 00:33:22,168 --> 00:33:24,048 -"We can do better. -Mm-hmm. 848 00:33:24,087 --> 00:33:25,877 We can be more mindful." Right? 849 00:33:25,922 --> 00:33:29,472 And at a time where, like you said, it may not be malicious. 850 00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:31,929 -Mm. -It's not, you know, done with ill will. 851 00:33:31,970 --> 00:33:33,470 -Everybody's trying to hustle... -Yeah. 852 00:33:33,513 --> 00:33:35,313 because everybody's trying to work to get this thing. 853 00:33:35,348 --> 00:33:37,018 -And everybody's goal is the thing. -Yeah. 854 00:33:37,058 --> 00:33:39,268 And it's got to work, and this is how we got to do to get it. 855 00:33:39,310 --> 00:33:40,940 Which is fine. I'm not disregarding that. 856 00:33:40,979 --> 00:33:45,779 I'm saying that you're-you're... you're bringing up something 857 00:33:45,817 --> 00:33:51,567 that ultimately makes people have to be more aware. 858 00:33:51,614 --> 00:33:52,624 -Mm-hmm. -Right? 859 00:33:52,657 --> 00:33:54,737 And it couldn't be a better time, 860 00:33:54,784 --> 00:33:58,874 because it's what's... it's what's happening now. 861 00:33:58,913 --> 00:34:00,793 -Mm-hmm. -If you look at the now, 862 00:34:00,832 --> 00:34:05,632 -now it's all about people becoming more aware. -Mm-hmm. 863 00:34:05,670 --> 00:34:09,880 Aware of your words, aware of the impact that your words 864 00:34:09,924 --> 00:34:12,644 may have, aware of acceptance, 865 00:34:12,677 --> 00:34:16,097 aware of equality, aware of, you know, 866 00:34:16,139 --> 00:34:18,979 difference within people and understanding 867 00:34:19,017 --> 00:34:21,097 and-and, you know, compassion. 868 00:34:21,144 --> 00:34:23,814 And there's room for rest. 869 00:34:23,855 --> 00:34:25,355 There's room for self. 870 00:34:25,398 --> 00:34:28,738 There's room for mind, rest, whatever it may be. 871 00:34:28,777 --> 00:34:30,857 'Cause what we're talking about relates to everyone. 872 00:34:30,904 --> 00:34:32,494 -Mm-hmm. -Everybody works so hard 873 00:34:32,530 --> 00:34:35,490 to maintain a lifestyle and take care of themselves 874 00:34:35,533 --> 00:34:36,833 -and their families. -Absolutely. 875 00:34:36,868 --> 00:34:38,618 Regardless of what you do. Absolutely. 876 00:34:38,661 --> 00:34:41,161 And everyone so hard, that if we pivot this to, like... 877 00:34:41,206 --> 00:34:43,166 to the importance of creativity, 878 00:34:43,208 --> 00:34:44,828 to the importance of family time. 879 00:34:44,876 --> 00:34:47,626 I think, you know, it's been probably one 880 00:34:47,671 --> 00:34:49,171 of the greatest things to happen to us, 881 00:34:49,214 --> 00:34:50,804 but also one of the worst. 882 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,800 It's been detrimental, I think, to have our cell phones 883 00:34:53,843 --> 00:34:57,473 basically creating an office for us at all times, where 884 00:34:57,514 --> 00:35:00,644 if you are unavailable, and no one can reach you 885 00:35:00,684 --> 00:35:02,854 at 2:00 in the morning, it's that you're not dedicated. 886 00:35:02,894 --> 00:35:04,354 -Mm-hmm. -That you don't care. 887 00:35:04,396 --> 00:35:06,146 And honestly, people lose their jobs 888 00:35:06,189 --> 00:35:09,859 for not being willing to live at that-that height of pressure. 889 00:35:09,901 --> 00:35:13,531 -Mm-hmm. -If you... if you value, you know, family time, 890 00:35:13,571 --> 00:35:16,411 if you value Sundays, if you val... 891 00:35:16,449 --> 00:35:18,239 -then you must not want it enough. -Mm-hmm. 892 00:35:18,284 --> 00:35:20,164 And you're not worthy of this job, 893 00:35:20,203 --> 00:35:21,623 and you're not worthy of the success, 894 00:35:21,663 --> 00:35:23,503 and so we're going to give it to someone else 895 00:35:23,540 --> 00:35:25,500 who's willing to run on zero 896 00:35:25,542 --> 00:35:28,252 and to not have a quality of life. 897 00:35:28,294 --> 00:35:30,054 But they're... 898 00:35:30,088 --> 00:35:33,298 Yeah, I can't be that person anymore. 899 00:35:46,271 --> 00:35:49,691 I remember when, um, Justin Bieber came out 900 00:35:49,733 --> 00:35:52,033 -with, like, his 3D movie. -Mm-hmm. 901 00:35:52,068 --> 00:35:53,488 And he invited me to the premiere. 902 00:35:53,528 --> 00:35:55,068 And I was sitting in front of him, 903 00:35:55,113 --> 00:35:57,073 and his mom, like, tapped me on the shoulder and said, 904 00:35:57,115 --> 00:35:58,445 "Is there any, like, advice..."-- 905 00:35:58,491 --> 00:36:00,241 which I couldn't believe, because I was so young-- 906 00:36:00,285 --> 00:36:02,575 "...that you want to give to Justin?" 907 00:36:02,620 --> 00:36:04,250 And it was, I said, "If you can..." 908 00:36:04,289 --> 00:36:07,329 You know, there's-there's kind of, like, different techniques 909 00:36:07,375 --> 00:36:09,085 of, like, Reiki tapping and things like this. 910 00:36:09,127 --> 00:36:12,127 But I said, "If you could, like, kind of almost tap yourself 911 00:36:12,172 --> 00:36:15,762 "on the side of your head and almost push 'record' on moments 912 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,930 that you want to remember, because I don't remember." 913 00:36:17,969 --> 00:36:21,429 -And I was only probably 17 or 18, but I had said -Wow. 914 00:36:21,473 --> 00:36:23,023 -"I want you to remember this." -Wow. 915 00:36:23,058 --> 00:36:25,518 Like, you've got, you know, speaking of people, 916 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,980 like Will Smith, all these people 917 00:36:27,020 --> 00:36:28,860 coming to watch this 3D movie of this kid 918 00:36:28,897 --> 00:36:31,267 who was just putting videos on YouTube two years ago. 919 00:36:31,316 --> 00:36:34,236 And I didn't know where his career was gonna go, 920 00:36:34,277 --> 00:36:35,607 or how long it was gonna last. 921 00:36:35,653 --> 00:36:37,663 I didn't know the same thing about my own. 922 00:36:37,697 --> 00:36:39,737 And I just said, "I just want you to remember. 923 00:36:39,783 --> 00:36:42,043 "So, like, if you can try to record moments like this 924 00:36:42,077 --> 00:36:44,867 "in your head, or write them down and, like, take a moment 925 00:36:44,913 --> 00:36:47,833 "to inhale and, like, know what this theater smells like, 926 00:36:47,874 --> 00:36:49,754 -right now." Just remember. -Be present. Yeah. 927 00:36:49,793 --> 00:36:52,593 -Because I cannot remember. -I got a blur. 928 00:36:52,629 --> 00:36:55,379 -Mm-hmm. -I got a... I got a heavy blur 929 00:36:55,423 --> 00:36:57,133 -of some periods. -Mm-hmm. 930 00:36:57,175 --> 00:36:58,635 -I remember big moments. -Mm-hmm. 931 00:36:58,677 --> 00:37:00,387 But I got a blur 932 00:37:00,428 --> 00:37:03,428 -of some in between, and... -Mm-hmm. 933 00:37:04,766 --> 00:37:09,186 I have been in my machine for quite some time, right? 934 00:37:09,229 --> 00:37:12,069 And, you know, I don't have to go into crazy detail 935 00:37:12,107 --> 00:37:15,317 'cause it's... it's about... it's about you, 936 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,820 and it's about my-my conversation with you. 937 00:37:17,862 --> 00:37:22,282 But I'm telling you, I can relate 938 00:37:22,325 --> 00:37:24,285 at such a high level 939 00:37:24,327 --> 00:37:27,037 of what you're saying about... 940 00:37:27,831 --> 00:37:32,341 Because you... 'Cause without having the-the blink to record 941 00:37:32,377 --> 00:37:34,667 -and-and-and really capture... -Uh-huh. 942 00:37:34,713 --> 00:37:38,553 -it's gone. It's gone. -Mm-hmm. 943 00:37:38,591 --> 00:37:40,181 And because we're in this machine, 944 00:37:40,218 --> 00:37:42,678 -you're on to the next thing. -Mm-hmm. 945 00:37:42,721 --> 00:37:44,221 And the next thing may not be bigger 946 00:37:44,264 --> 00:37:45,894 than the thing that was before. 947 00:37:45,932 --> 00:37:48,522 And the thing after that thing may not be bigger, or it may be. 948 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,690 But you're so focused on the back-to-back. 949 00:37:52,731 --> 00:37:54,731 You're so focused on the train. 950 00:37:54,774 --> 00:37:58,284 You're-you're so focused on forward progression, 951 00:37:58,319 --> 00:38:01,199 more success, more wins, more, 952 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:02,819 -more, more. -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 953 00:38:02,866 --> 00:38:06,536 -You're feeding this thing. -"More" is my favorite word. 954 00:38:06,578 --> 00:38:10,038 What is this for you? Be honest. This conversation. Us. 955 00:38:10,081 --> 00:38:13,421 -This conversation? -Yes. What is this for you? 956 00:38:13,460 --> 00:38:16,250 This conversation, um, for me. 957 00:38:18,131 --> 00:38:23,051 I think that I've had a... 958 00:38:23,094 --> 00:38:24,764 I felt very disconnected 959 00:38:24,804 --> 00:38:28,144 from my community of creatives for a long time. 960 00:38:28,183 --> 00:38:29,853 -Mm-hmm. -And I was having truly-- 961 00:38:29,893 --> 00:38:32,603 when we sat in these chairs-- an out-of-body experience. 962 00:38:32,645 --> 00:38:35,975 I was not here with you. I was in my robo mode, 963 00:38:36,024 --> 00:38:38,614 you know, that I was taught to have of, 964 00:38:38,651 --> 00:38:40,401 "Today you told Kevin Hart 965 00:38:40,445 --> 00:38:42,105 you would sit down and have a conversation." 966 00:38:42,155 --> 00:38:45,075 But I-I was not here to sit and have a conversation with you. 967 00:38:45,116 --> 00:38:48,406 I was still doing all the things that you just talked about. 968 00:38:48,453 --> 00:38:49,833 Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 969 00:38:49,871 --> 00:38:52,581 And I would've missed out on something. 970 00:38:52,624 --> 00:38:55,924 And I should know that more people like you and I 971 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,840 are going through all the things we just talked about. 972 00:38:57,879 --> 00:38:59,709 -Mm-hmm. -And I should ask them if they're okay 973 00:38:59,756 --> 00:39:01,876 and if they need a friend, if they ever want to talk about it. 974 00:39:01,925 --> 00:39:03,835 So it's really nice of you to do that. 975 00:39:03,885 --> 00:39:05,755 I'm going to... 976 00:39:05,804 --> 00:39:08,434 In conclusion, I'm gonna say something to you, and I mean it. 977 00:39:08,473 --> 00:39:10,683 -Mm-hmm. -What I'm about to say, right? 978 00:39:10,725 --> 00:39:14,265 Uh... I've never met Miley Cyrus. 979 00:39:14,312 --> 00:39:16,442 I don't... I don't know you. 980 00:39:16,481 --> 00:39:18,191 We don't have a relationship. 981 00:39:18,233 --> 00:39:22,113 The purpose, like I told you, behind this is 982 00:39:22,153 --> 00:39:25,073 to have real talks with real people, right? 983 00:39:25,115 --> 00:39:28,445 And people that have these crazy platforms 984 00:39:28,493 --> 00:39:31,623 that you think you know, but you don't know. 985 00:39:31,663 --> 00:39:35,463 And through a real conversation that's not predetermined 986 00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:38,040 or, you know, premeditated or programmed, 987 00:39:38,086 --> 00:39:39,416 things will come out. 988 00:39:39,462 --> 00:39:42,012 Conversation and talk will come out. 989 00:39:42,048 --> 00:39:46,548 And in that, you can possibly walk away with a different idea. 990 00:39:46,594 --> 00:39:50,724 And not just the audience, myself included, right? 991 00:39:50,765 --> 00:39:54,845 Like, I really genuinely want to get to know the people 992 00:39:54,894 --> 00:39:57,024 that I'm talking to, because there's a... 993 00:39:57,063 --> 00:40:01,233 an abundance of respect for these people. 994 00:40:01,276 --> 00:40:05,696 After talking to you today, 995 00:40:05,739 --> 00:40:07,699 you've not only shined a light 996 00:40:07,741 --> 00:40:12,701 on things that I personally have been through, right? 997 00:40:12,746 --> 00:40:18,336 You've also shined a light, like, w... 998 00:40:18,376 --> 00:40:20,626 There's so much synergy 999 00:40:20,670 --> 00:40:25,090 in these stories of... success, right? 1000 00:40:25,133 --> 00:40:26,893 When you talk about where you come from. 1001 00:40:26,926 --> 00:40:28,886 When you talk about making it from here, 1002 00:40:28,928 --> 00:40:31,508 going to here, the amount of times back and forth, 1003 00:40:31,556 --> 00:40:35,226 you have no idea how many people share that. 1004 00:40:35,268 --> 00:40:37,688 In the world of spiritual, 1005 00:40:37,729 --> 00:40:39,859 and in the world of thinking how you think, 1006 00:40:39,898 --> 00:40:42,068 I'm gonna wrap this up by saying something 1007 00:40:42,108 --> 00:40:44,528 that just hit me as we were talking. 1008 00:40:44,569 --> 00:40:49,819 You're talking about this... confusion, right, 1009 00:40:49,866 --> 00:40:51,826 that so many people have now 1010 00:40:51,868 --> 00:40:54,788 who simply aren't aware, as we were talking. 1011 00:40:54,829 --> 00:40:56,999 You're not aware because we assume. 1012 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:00,540 We assume so much about the other person, 1013 00:41:00,585 --> 00:41:03,545 about the other race, about the sex, 1014 00:41:03,588 --> 00:41:08,678 about the... the love for same sex or not, 1015 00:41:08,718 --> 00:41:12,388 or choice of person and what they want to be. 1016 00:41:12,430 --> 00:41:15,230 We have so much assumption. 1017 00:41:15,266 --> 00:41:18,016 And the reason why we have so much assumption 1018 00:41:18,061 --> 00:41:20,981 is because we haven't taken the time to truly talk. 1019 00:41:21,022 --> 00:41:23,782 We haven't taken the time to truly talk 1020 00:41:23,817 --> 00:41:25,647 and to truly understand. 1021 00:41:25,694 --> 00:41:28,204 And if people... if people understand 1022 00:41:28,238 --> 00:41:32,408 the power in conversation, the power in dialogue, 1023 00:41:32,450 --> 00:41:35,080 the power in back-and-forth, 1024 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,120 then you'll ultimately get to the... to the place of solution. 1025 00:41:39,165 --> 00:41:40,995 That place is so far away 1026 00:41:41,042 --> 00:41:44,922 -because people aren't willing to do this. -Mm-hmm. 1027 00:41:44,963 --> 00:41:47,173 I'm walking away from this conversation 1028 00:41:47,215 --> 00:41:50,425 with such an amazing understanding of who you are, 1029 00:41:50,468 --> 00:41:54,098 and I think that person is dope as fuck. I mean it. 1030 00:41:54,139 --> 00:41:56,309 -Thank you. -I think you're dope as fuck. 1031 00:41:56,349 --> 00:41:57,979 -Ditto. -And you now... 1032 00:41:58,018 --> 00:42:01,438 You've now got not only a new fan, but a friend. 1033 00:42:01,479 --> 00:42:03,439 Like, I'm comfortable saying, "Yo, I talked to Miley. 1034 00:42:03,481 --> 00:42:04,861 Miley's dope as hell." 1035 00:42:04,899 --> 00:42:06,279 And you're an amazing guest, yo. 1036 00:42:06,317 --> 00:42:08,237 -Ladies and gentlemen... -I really enjoyed it. 1037 00:42:08,278 --> 00:42:09,488 I appreciate it. Thank you. 1038 00:42:09,529 --> 00:42:10,909 Ladies and gentlemen, Miley Cyrus. 1039 00:42:10,947 --> 00:42:13,027 Goddamn it. What an amazing conversation. 1040 00:42:13,074 --> 00:42:14,704 -What an amazing show. -Thank you. 1041 00:42:14,743 --> 00:42:16,703 -Thank you, Miley. -Love you with all my Hart. 1042 00:42:16,745 --> 00:42:18,785 -Nice. -Hey! Commercial spot. 1043 00:42:18,830 --> 00:42:21,330 Now I'm in the commercial. 1044 00:42:21,374 --> 00:42:24,294 -(laughs) Holy shit. -Cool. 1045 00:42:24,336 --> 00:42:26,706 I mean, I don't know what you're talking about. 1046 00:42:26,755 --> 00:42:28,875 Like, I'm so glad I met you. 1047 00:42:28,923 --> 00:42:30,343 -Yeah, this was... This is it. -This is it. 1048 00:42:30,383 --> 00:42:33,603 -This is the way to do it. -This was the way to go. 1049 00:42:36,181 --> 00:42:39,481 Today's life anecdote is what I like to call a gem. (chuckles) 1050 00:42:39,517 --> 00:42:42,147 You may want to pick this one up as soon as I drop it. 1051 00:42:42,187 --> 00:42:45,147 Here we go. Why do you have elbows? 1052 00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:47,070 For the same reason why you have joints. 1053 00:42:47,108 --> 00:42:49,648 What I'm saying is, every once in a while, smoke one. 1054 00:42:49,694 --> 00:42:51,914 Huh? Come on, now. 1055 00:42:51,946 --> 00:42:52,066 Come on, now. 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