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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:08,037 How did Antonioni choose me? I really don't remember. 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:13,154 Because we're speaking about 1952, not now. 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:23,551 In 1952, since I'd already made other films like "The City Stands Trial", 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:29,000 Antonioni chose me as the young actor of the moment, 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,073 I was the most requested youngster, let's say. 6 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:39,275 I don't remember ever doing a screen test, or going to see anyone, 7 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,790 he chose me straight away for the part in the film. 8 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,352 Just a moment, there is a reason. 9 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,040 Turi Vasile and Diego Fabbri's production company ‘Film Costellazione', 10 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,112 was the one that had produced "The City Stands Trial", 11 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:58,429 and then "The Vanquished". So it's likely that Vasile e Fabbri 12 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,429 had suggested my name to Antonioni. 13 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,915 Because then, at the end of the year, I also made with them 14 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:08,713 "The World Condemns Them", directed by Franciolini, 15 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,479 where I played a really good part with Alida Valli. 16 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,990 She was beautiful, I fell in love with her. 17 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,672 I knew a bit about the vicissitudes of this story, 18 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:25,273 which at first was the story of a fascist who committed suicide, 19 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,391 making it seem like it had been the communists, 20 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,273 and then it was changed, and changed again. 21 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:38,910 But Antonioni didn't speak to me much about it, he spoke to the script writers. 22 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,155 He only told me what I should do as an actor. 23 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:51,678 He was very good at guiding the actors and creating the right atmosphere, 24 00:01:52,200 --> 00:02:00,312 he never told me his political ideas 25 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:06,520 but he said: "Here you're like this..., here you fall and hurt yourself... 26 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,670 ...then you get home, and die..." 27 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:15,558 He told me and specified things but we didn't really discuss the theme 28 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:21,835 or the fact that this story could be followed up politically. 29 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,191 He treated me as you would treat an actor 30 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,119 and an actor is an instrument in the hands of the director. 31 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:34,276 And what a director! Antonioni was to say the least extraordinary. 32 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:42,149 Extraordinary in delivering the cues, in telling me how to walk, 33 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,114 where I should go, what sort of face I should have, 34 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,071 he told me everything, he was extraordinary. 35 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:54,273 He shot enough, if the scene wasn't perfect, he carried on shooting. 36 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,710 It's not like today on television sets where they say: "The first one's good". 37 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,195 Now in television they make 866 shots a minute 38 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,393 and they're always good: "Well done, you were really good". But it's not true. 39 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,270 Sure, Antonioni took his time, 40 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,510 but Fellini took more time with "Spivs". He was very pleasant, 41 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:21,996 sometimes we'd take a whole afternoon to shoot a scene. 42 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,919 But Antonioni was also very precise, 43 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,035 if he wasn't satisfied, he wouldn't stop shooting. 44 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,920 What do I remember of the scene that you've shown me with Gastone Renzelli, 45 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:35,638 the star of "Bellissima"? 46 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,836 Well, I remember shooting it, but I remembered it a bit differently. 47 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,510 I remember that I stayed in a corridor, waiting for him. 48 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,189 Whereas we meet outside: 49 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,629 "Well, what do you want?", "Well, I need to speak to you", 50 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,990 "Speak", "No, wait..." 51 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:59,760 Yes, I didn't remember the scene well, but I remembered shooting with him, 52 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,640 spending the whole day with him, eating a lunch basket together. 53 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,074 Renzelli was nice. 54 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:11,555 So, I find the scene beautiful anyway. 55 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,080 The film wasn't shot as a live recording, that's clear, 56 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,272 but... when we dubbed it, 57 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:24,909 we changed the lines of the scene with Anna Maria Ferrero in the garage. 58 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:31,600 That was very difficult, because, in the first version, I was a dynamiter, 59 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,436 then instead I was a smuggler who kills a policeman by mistake 60 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:41,156 on the gangway of the Marconi Bridge, the bridge they were building. 61 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,750 We filmed there for a number of nights. 62 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,120 So there were some problems doing the dubbing 63 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,317 but Antonioni told me what I had to say. 64 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:57,191 And I said it, because it was like dubbing a foreigner. 65 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:04,957 With my mouth I said one thing but I had to dub another. 66 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,435 That is, I had to be agitated in an exaggerated way 67 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,756 for a story which was okay before, 68 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,553 I'd even blown up a factory, 69 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:21,994 whereas there, escaping, I'd shot and killed a policeman. 70 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,989 The dubbing was done immediately afterwards, not much time had gone by. 71 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,910 Ceratinly, after the showing at Venice, we did the dubbing again 72 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:36,432 so that the film would be shown at the cinemas with this new dubbing. 73 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,430 In the scene that we shot later, which I don't remember shooting later, 74 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,950 the cameraman was Enzo Serafin, 75 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:51,474 and I think he was also in the scene which we re-shot on Marconi Bridge. 76 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,397 The cameraman was never changed. 77 00:05:53,800 --> 00:06:00,797 I can tell you about the relationship with Antonioni, who was really nice. 78 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:06,234 We talked about women, he always said that the most beautiful women in Italy 79 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:11,354 were Lucia Bosé with whom he had made "Chronicle of a Love", 80 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,109 Silvana Mangano, Antonella Lualdi, and I agreed with him. 81 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,835 I met Antonella Lualdi the following year. 82 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,714 I said: "Yes-yes, Antonella Lualdi is pretty as well." 83 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:25,390 Antonella Lualdi, Silvana Mangano, Lucia Bosé 84 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:30,674 they were Antonioni's women, the actresses which he liked the most. 85 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,596 We were under this Marconi Bridge which was under construction 86 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:42,639 and we exchanged our ideas about Italian actresses. 87 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:49,194 Besides, Antonioni was... For one thing he was an ex tennis player, 88 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,437 and, in spite of his tics, he was second category. 89 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,115 So he was a strong tennis player. 90 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,312 And when we shot the scene in the car 91 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,559 with Anna Maria Ferrero on the Cristoforo Colombo Avenue, 92 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:08,200 an idiot stopped with his car and didn't want to let us film. 93 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,239 Antonioni got down and started punching him. 94 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:18,636 Antonioni had some sides to his personality a bit... 95 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,234 I'd never seen so much violence, he punched someone bigger than him 96 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,358 because he didn't want to let him film. 97 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,909 Then when I became a tennis lover, 98 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:36,000 I always thought that he was a real tennis player, 99 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,150 he'd been a very strong second category. 100 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:44,310 So he was a first class intellectual but also a great sportsman. 101 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,630 I hope he lives for a long time yet. 102 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,830 I already knew Anna Maria Ferrero because... 103 00:07:53,880 --> 00:08:00,320 we'd met at Fregene where we went on holiday. 104 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,159 I was engaged to a girl, Patrizia Mori, 105 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:09,391 whose sister then married Orson Welles. 106 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,640 I can't remember her name, then she died in an accident in Los Angeles. 107 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:21,353 I was engaged and everyday I went to Fregene and I took Anna Maria Ferrero. 108 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,236 So there was a lovely relationship with Anna Maria Ferrero. 109 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:31,038 With her I made "The Big Night", "Half a Century of Songs", 110 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,760 where we also sang together. 111 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:39,470 There was a great feeling between us, we made about 4-5 films as a couple. 112 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,034 She had a long affair with Vittorio Gassman 113 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:50,235 and now she's happily married to the French actor Jean Sorel. 114 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:55,195 I also saw her in Paris when I used to go and see Mastroianni, 115 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,880 I met her at a bar at Saint-Germain-des-Prés. 116 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,117 She lives in Paris with Jean Sorel. 117 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:05,758 Leopoldo Trieste... he's been my brother, my father, my cousin, 118 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,714 my uncle, he was everything. I met him on the set of "I vitelloni", 119 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,593 he'd already played the lead in "The White Sheik". 120 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,749 He was the 'black soul' of Fellini. When Fellini had to make a film, 121 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,119 he took him all around Rome by car and he told him things... 122 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,679 Leopoldo is a great character, when he talked to me he said: 123 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:31,193 "You know, Franco, when I speak, I let the words fall 124 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,159 but before they fall to the ground, I pierce them." 125 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,635 In "Farewell to Arms", we were always together, 126 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,233 we went in search of young girls in all Friuli Venezia-Giulia. 127 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,240 He was a terrible lady-killer, 128 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,711 he always had small cakes, but they were of no use at that time. 129 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,790 Leopoldo was an extraordinary character. 130 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,754 Everyone remembers him as an actor, and of course he was very good. 131 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,154 But he was a great playwright, a great writer... 132 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,553 he's an exceptional man. 133 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,152 I never thought of him as being older than me... 134 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,594 because at 20 or at 30 one is always the same. 135 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,516 When you have that spirit, that juvenile way of doing things, you stay that way. 136 00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:21,918 Leopoldo was young at heart, he always has been right to the end. 12682

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