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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:08,240 good evening i'm anthony robart this is  crime beat tonight an aspiring actress finally   2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:15,199 making headways in her career vanishes. She hadn't  spent any money she hadn't touched her facebook   3 00:00:15,199 --> 00:00:19,759 she wasn't on her phone. Although there are no  indications of foul play it is out of character   4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:25,120 for her to not be in touch with family and  friends and we are we are all concerned for her 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,839 welfare 6 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:44,719 and now here's Nancy Hixt with Shannon  Madill's last audition 7 00:00:44,719 --> 00:00:54,159 Tell you a little about me? just a general me um okay i am interning  uh for my radio and television program   8 00:00:55,759 --> 00:01:04,319 shannon madill love to perform and truly  came alive on screen a couple of lines   9 00:01:05,359 --> 00:01:10,000 does that work for you? a  couple of lines how exciting. 10 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,560 i'm not sure if i can give you a couple of lines  sir i don't know how i'll be able to do that   11 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:29,040 okay yeah you got it? she spent years  trying to make it as an actress and at 25   12 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:34,480 it was looking like she might finally  land her big break this video was an   13 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:44,320 audition for a role in a tv series it was  recorded november 26 2014. okay thanks 14 00:01:48,879 --> 00:01:53,839 hours later she vanished 15 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,200 days went by and there was no word from shannon   16 00:02:00,079 --> 00:02:05,039 after more than a week her family  made a plea for shannon to call home   17 00:02:06,799 --> 00:02:12,479 this is my sister she's a lovely outgoing girl  and shannon if you see this please you're not in   18 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:17,119 trouble we all love you and we miss you so much  we don't need to know where you are we just want   19 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:23,280 to know that you're safe it wasn't completely out  of character for shannon to be hard to track down   20 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:31,360 but it was unusual for her to disappear for so  many days police said there was no evidence to   21 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:38,640 suggest foul play would the young actress simply  take off could she have been in an accident   22 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:46,719 her family was desperate for answers you are  so loved and you are so missed and we just   23 00:02:46,719 --> 00:02:52,879 just please let us know that you're okay wherever  you are shannon was the youngest of four medal   24 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:59,599 children and even as a child she loved performing  oh she loved the spotlight her favorite thing was   25 00:02:59,599 --> 00:03:08,400 a microphone and a spotlight from the time she was  tiny shannon was very outgoing even from a small   26 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,319 age she loved doing like the plays at the church  and that and the plays at school and she was   27 00:03:14,319 --> 00:03:21,199 a real performer she loved to be in front of an  audience performing and that never changed she was   28 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:28,399 just such a little ham she loved to she just loved  to play and be silly of course i'm probably going   29 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,080 to tell this story wrong but she met my uncle  when she was about two or three at the airport   30 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,880 for the first time and she ran up to him and said  kiss me kiss me like you've never kissed me before 31 00:03:39,599 --> 00:03:45,840 so yeah she's she's been a ham  since she was really really young   32 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:53,520 shannon played 15 instruments including  the trombone and the french horn 33 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:01,599 has it all been worth it here i am the queen 34 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:11,760 she was always a bit of a spitfire she like she  that red hair and fiery personality were always   35 00:04:11,759 --> 00:04:17,439 very present um and i mean i think that probably  partly just came from being the baby of the family   36 00:04:17,439 --> 00:04:22,639 where you can like there's everyone's been through  it so no one's really paying attention to you as   37 00:04:22,639 --> 00:04:28,079 much anymore um you know nothing that she could do  could be as worse as anything that's come before   38 00:04:28,079 --> 00:04:33,759 her so she kind of had the freedom  to to be a little bit more out there 39 00:04:40,319 --> 00:04:46,560 after high school shannon went to university  but left soon after to pursue acting   40 00:04:47,439 --> 00:04:52,879 i was really really concerned about it at the time  i'm not going to lie as somebody who did used to   41 00:04:52,879 --> 00:04:57,680 do a bunch of performing i know how hard it can  be and the scariest part of course is that it's   42 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:04,800 a lifelong rejection you're constantly it's you're  constantly on a job interview really when shannon   43 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:12,079 was 21 she fell in love so she met josh at a party  it was a mutual friends that they were all there   44 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:18,640 and that would have been 2010. i want to say it  was probably about december 2010. josh burgess was   45 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:24,879 the opposite of shannon personality wise so they  seemed to balance each other out for a perfect   46 00:05:24,879 --> 00:05:30,480 fit they found a happy medium together because  they both very much enjoyed the quiet times   47 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,840 at home they both enjoyed watching tv together  playing video games together some d they had a   48 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,799 lot of nerdy interests that they shared and that  was where they were able to have that overlap of   49 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:45,600 interest shannon seemed to really like him so we  all started to really like him we enjoyed having   50 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:51,600 him around and he seemed to make her happy which  made us happy after dating for about four years   51 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:56,879 shannon and josh got married and all of a sudden  out of the blue i got a call on a wednesday to   52 00:05:56,879 --> 00:06:03,600 find out they were getting married on the saturday  and that would have been may of 2014. so they were   53 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,840 in a car and they decided you know what let's just  get married and they're both super star wars nerds   54 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:12,079 so they decided may the fourth was coming up on  that saturday and they called it justice of the   55 00:06:12,079 --> 00:06:16,560 peace and found out that they were available so  they decided they would do a quick wedding at the   56 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:23,680 jp's house in the months that followed shannon was  busier than ever trying to make it as an actress   57 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:31,120 and juggling auditions a lot of those took her to  edmonton a three-hour drive north of calgary so   58 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:37,199 she spent a lot of time on the road commuting  back and forth but she was making it work 59 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:46,480 in late november of 2014 she planned  to meet up with her older brother   60 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:54,240 at a calgary dinner theater but shannon didn't  show up i mean the 30th was the day she was   61 00:06:54,240 --> 00:07:00,800 supposed to be going to stage west with brett her  brother shannon was a marvelous person she had   62 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:07,520 many things but she was a little flighty at  times and she could you know sort of forget   63 00:07:07,519 --> 00:07:12,719 things or that and not necessarily let people  know i mean i sent her a text right away   64 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:18,560 at that point saying where are you you're  supposed to be at dinner with brett and uh   65 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:27,120 and i didn't hear anything back that night which  didn't totally surprise me when i i tried again   66 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:32,480 in the morning and didn't hear anything back and  i thought well you know what she's probably she   67 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:38,319 knows i'm not happy and she probably just wants  to avoid hearing it from me personally so i phoned   68 00:07:38,319 --> 00:07:44,240 aaron so on december 1st which was a Monday I was at work i got a phone call from my father saying   69 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:50,160 that shannon had missed dinner with my younger  brother and that nobody was she wasn't answering   70 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,400 her phone calls my dad had been calling her my  younger brother had been calling her and she just   71 00:07:54,399 --> 00:07:59,279 wasn't picking up one of the things that happened  with shannon is if she get really overwhelmed or   72 00:07:59,279 --> 00:08:04,479 depressed she would sometimes completely switch  up her sleep schedule so i thought it was possible   73 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:09,520 that maybe she had fallen asleep in the afternoon  because she'd been doing late nights recording   74 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:13,039 and she'd slept through the dinner and now she  was just too embarrassed to pick up the phone   75 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:19,520 because she didn't want to admit that she'd messed  up so i was i decided to call her hoping that she   76 00:08:19,519 --> 00:08:24,879 wouldn't avoid my phone call since i wasn't mad  at her but she didn't answer my phone call so   77 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:29,199 i left her a message saying that you know just  let us know you're okay we're worried about you   78 00:08:29,199 --> 00:08:34,799 we were actually out at dinner it was about seven  o'clock on the monday night and aaron says well   79 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:41,279 i've been over to her place i can't she's not  there josh doesn't know where she is and so on and   80 00:08:41,279 --> 00:08:49,039 i said hey i think we should go to the police days  later police and family made a plea for help in   81 00:08:49,039 --> 00:08:54,319 finding shannon although there are no indications  of foul play it is out of character for her to not   82 00:08:54,320 --> 00:09:01,120 be in touch with family and friends and we are we  are all concerned for her welfare shannon's family   83 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:08,080 stood side by side appealing for information about  her disappearance this is josh this is shannon's   84 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:16,000 husband uh this is my mother lisa this is lindsey  our sister-in-law our brother brett this is my   85 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:22,159 other brother tyler and that's my father david  it was surreal i think is the word i would use   86 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:29,279 it almost disembodied you felt like you were  present but you were watching yourself being there 87 00:09:32,799 --> 00:09:37,359 coming up as police ramp up  their search for shannon madill 88 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:43,440 some mysterious photos found posted in a city  park lead to a potential break in the case 89 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:54,720 welcome back the family of an up-and-coming  actress who mysteriously vanished   90 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,480 search for answers as police investigate new clues   91 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,120 and now here's nancy hixt with  Shannon Madill's last audition 92 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:15,279 the days that followed are a blur for shannon's  family as they tried to make sense of her sudden   93 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:22,319 disappearance as you're trying to piece together  the story you're you know you start asking   94 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,240 questions that people aren't answering like  where you know well where's your car where's   95 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:32,159 her phone where's her purse where like you know  is it still there how the dog is being left at   96 00:10:32,159 --> 00:10:37,519 the house like that doesn't make any sense for  shannon the big theory was was oh she probably   97 00:10:37,519 --> 00:10:42,399 went up to edmonton and she might just be  laying low with this guy there was no sign   98 00:10:42,399 --> 00:10:50,959 of shannon where could she possibly be if she was  still alive why hadn't she contacted her family   99 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:56,639 she hadn't spent any money she hadn't  touched her facebook she wasn't on her phone   100 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:03,439 there was no contact that's when people start to  really get concerned because in this day and age   101 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:09,280 it's impossible to not leave a digital footprint  at least in some manner and to still be able to   102 00:11:09,279 --> 00:11:13,679 function it wasn't like she had a whole bunch of  cash laying around she wouldn't be able to support   103 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:20,879 herself nearly two weeks later there was a major  development in the case photos of a woman whose   104 00:11:20,879 --> 00:11:28,559 face was covered by her hair and flowers were  found attached to trees in a park in calgary it   105 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:34,879 looked like it could be shannon the resemblance  was enough to spur a massive search of fish   106 00:11:34,879 --> 00:11:42,159 creek provincial park one of the largest urban  parks in canada police spent two days scouring   107 00:11:42,159 --> 00:11:49,759 the area for clues they even brought in a cadaver  dog dogs specially trained to find human remains   108 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,960 i remember those two days while they were  doing those searches your stomach is just on   109 00:11:54,960 --> 00:12:00,320 edge um you're so concerned about what they're  gonna find and every time my phone would ring   110 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:05,679 it was like your stomach just drops out because  you think every time the phone rings this is   111 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:11,120 when you find out this is when they found her  she's dead it's over that search came up empty   112 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:16,879 it turned out the photos in the park were  not related to shannon's disappearance   113 00:12:17,759 --> 00:12:24,960 instead they were a part of a student art project  those involved came forward to police after seeing   114 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:34,000 the search on the news it was all just an eerie  coincidence shannon was still missing i withdrew   115 00:12:34,879 --> 00:12:40,240 into myself i did not want to get out  of bed did not want to eat anything   116 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:47,280 it was it was dreadful it was really dreadful  there's just this oppressive feeling of   117 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:52,800 are you gonna are you going to survive it  let alone what's going to be the outcome   118 00:12:53,519 --> 00:12:58,240 i was concerned that if we found her alive  what conditions she would be in what mental   119 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:03,759 condition she would be in police prepared  shannon's family for all possible outcomes   120 00:13:04,639 --> 00:13:08,960 there had been an incident that none of  us heard about till after the fact where   121 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:17,040 shannon had called josh from the lrt you know  uh claiming that that she was considering   122 00:13:17,759 --> 00:13:23,600 jumping and and that uh the police  had been called and involved in that   123 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,159 i became obsessed with the river 124 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:39,759 it's almost like you pick the lesser of all  evils and somehow her having a quick drowning   125 00:13:39,759 --> 00:13:45,439 became the least horrible answer to me so i  became obsessed with finding her in the river   126 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:53,360 i mean to this day i still can't drive by  the bow river without remembering that police   127 00:13:53,360 --> 00:14:01,840 searched the rivers but again no luck it  seemed like the investigation hit a dead end   128 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:10,000 by may of 2015 nearly six months  passed with no sign of Shannon Madill 129 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:19,360 that's when veteran calgary police detective  Christina Witt took over the case at the time   130 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:25,279 detective witt was working in the missing persons  unit but she'd worked in the homicide unit before   131 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:33,199 that she's well known for being a determined and  tenacious investigator whit went over every detail   132 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:38,560 of the case and took another look at the  people in shannon's life starting with her   133 00:14:38,559 --> 00:14:45,199 husband he seemed like a nice genuine person  he was very cooperative with police they were   134 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:50,400 allowed into the residence with his consent on  at least two occasions and they looked around   135 00:14:50,399 --> 00:14:56,399 and didn't see anything suspicious he was always  very cooperative when asked to come for interviews   136 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:03,440 you'll recall josh stood by shannon's family as  they made a plea for help just days after she   137 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:09,440 went missing you know the family was very close to  josh and never once did they suggest that he could   138 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,880 have harmed shannon which that also played into it  for us i think because a lot of times the family   139 00:15:14,879 --> 00:15:19,840 would be like look you gotta look at her husband  or you gotta look at this and and then we will   140 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:24,399 trust the family's instincts to an extent  as well and look into those things and   141 00:15:24,399 --> 00:15:28,799 the family did not think that at all they  he was not on their radar at all they loved   142 00:15:28,799 --> 00:15:33,599 josh they trusted josh they didn't have any  reason for themselves to think that he could   143 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:40,320 have harmed shannon that's when police learned  josh wasn't the only man in shannon's life 144 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:52,159 coming up would those new revelations  about Shannon Madill's romantic interest   145 00:15:52,159 --> 00:15:57,039 help police solve her disappearance  that's coming up after the break 146 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,480 welcome back police discover  Shannon Madill's husband   147 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:14,800 isn't the only man in her life and she's not  the only woman in his and now here's nancy hixt  148 00:16:16,559 --> 00:16:20,159 her and josh we learned very early on  through josh that they had an open marriage   149 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:27,200 they had been married for seven months at  by this time and this according to josh was   150 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:33,120 shannon's idea to have an open marriage shannon  was open with her family about her relationship   151 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:38,480 shannon told me that they didn't have a  conventional marriage and that josh wanted to   152 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:43,440 have a girlfriend on the side and shannon wanted  to keep her options open because she enjoyed   153 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:49,840 having flings aaron said they were committed  to each other just not physically committed   154 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:57,360 in their relationship it wasn't considered  cheating and it was all openly discussed while   155 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:04,240 many might find shannon and josh's arrangement  unconventional aaron said it worked for them   156 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,559 i didn't actually have concerns  they had a lot of open communication   157 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:14,319 shannon would actually meet josh's girlfriends  so she was very well aware of who josh was dating   158 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:19,839 and spending his time with so it was very it  was a very open honest conversation that they   159 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:24,959 were both willing to have with each other and  it was respectful on both sides for police the   160 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:31,840 open marriage created some complexities to the  case and more people to look at and investigate   161 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:39,359 could this missing persons case have been foul  play after all so that was also something we had   162 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:46,959 to look at was this could there been harm done to  her by someone that she was dating that we didn't   163 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:52,880 know so there was about seven i think different  people who whether she was acquaintances or had   164 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:58,640 dated that we needed to interview as well  six months into their marriage right before   165 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:05,360 shannon disappeared in the fall of 2014 the  couple hit some bumps in their relationship   166 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:12,880 things got so bad they were ready to call it quits  the very next day josh came home and told shannon   167 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,280 that he'd overreacted and he would actually like  to try to work on the marriage after all they   168 00:18:17,279 --> 00:18:22,160 decided that the best way to work on that would  be to focus only on the marriage and they agreed   169 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:27,200 that they would close off the marriage until they  sorted through what was going on but closing the   170 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:33,440 marriage wasn't so easy shannon ended up finding  out about a week later that he was still seeing   171 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,920 the girlfriend he told shannon that he was going  to break it off and shannon sent the girlfriend a   172 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:44,400 text they always had open communication and open  phones and then about a week later she found out   173 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:50,480 that his phone was locked she asked him to open  it and when shannon opened up the phone she found   174 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,720 out that he'd actually been in communication  with the girlfriend and he'd requested to go   175 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,880 and break up with her in person and it turned  out in that in-person meeting he actually told   176 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,120 the girlfriend that he was planning on leaving his  wife and that she would become the primary partner   177 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,200 so shannon was pretty hurt shannon was  incredibly hurt she felt incredibly deceived   178 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:15,759 shannon had some tough decisions to make her  acting career was leading her to edmonton and   179 00:19:15,759 --> 00:19:23,519 given the unraveling marriage she decided to move  out as that transition happened they made a point   180 00:19:23,519 --> 00:19:29,599 of avoiding each other at their home so there was  a often that she would go out and wouldn't be home   181 00:19:29,599 --> 00:19:33,839 for a couple of days and then would come home and  they would miss each other and their schedules   182 00:19:33,839 --> 00:19:37,599 were completely different because josh was doing  the nine to five and shannon was usually working   183 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:42,559 in the evenings to do stand-up or she would be  working overnight reading her books so it was very   184 00:19:42,559 --> 00:19:48,559 common that they wouldn't actually see each other  during that time on the night she went missing   185 00:19:48,559 --> 00:19:55,599 josh told police he spoke to her briefly then  went to bed when he woke up the next morning   186 00:19:55,599 --> 00:20:03,599 she was gone investigators said shannon's  footprints of life ended november 27 2014.   187 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:12,240 those are digital footprints like bank  transactions emails texts any normal activities   188 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:20,960 that show someone is still alive in shannon's case  that stopped at about 12 30 a.m on november 27   189 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:30,160 2014 except for some strange phone activity 12  hours later in her alley our tech crimes unit   190 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:37,759 examined her cell phone records and they were able  to determine that on the afternoon of the 27th   191 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:44,160 her phone is out in the alley kind of does a  walkabout in the alley and back into the residence   192 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:51,839 and so that was a flag because josh hadn't found  the phone right away but he does notify police   193 00:20:51,839 --> 00:20:53,759 within a few days that he'd found her phone   194 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,120 and couldn't really give an explanation of  how the phone is out doing this walkabout   195 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:05,600 in the alley so she was last seen like in the  early morning hours of november 27th and so then   196 00:21:05,599 --> 00:21:10,719 this is like 12 hours later in the afternoon  that the phone is out and about in the alley   197 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:19,279 eight months after Shannon Madill's disappearance  police decided they needed to take another look   198 00:21:19,279 --> 00:21:24,960 at her husband's story we've now had several  interviews with josh and he's you know the   199 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,680 important time period he's he's vague and isn't  giving a lot of detail and it's not really adding   200 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:36,400 up the strange cell phone activity in the alley  created suspicion we didn't reveal to him right   201 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:42,320 away about the cell phone doing the walkabout and  he certainly wasn't offering an explanation of why   202 00:21:42,319 --> 00:21:46,720 perhaps her phone would be even still on  after that kind of time period right because   203 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,759 cell phones typically the battery  dies so you know there was no um   204 00:21:53,039 --> 00:21:58,879 real obvious thing but the totality of all those  things together raised the suspicion enough to   205 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:05,200 believe that yes she could have been murdered  police applied for warrants to seize josh's cell   206 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,240 phone along with the vehicle they shared the  difficulty was in order to get a court order   207 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,599 you need to believe that offense had occurred and  early on that just that threshold wasn't being met   208 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,640 because of the concerns for suicide and the  family's suggestion that she could just be   209 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:26,720 away somewhere and not wanting to talk to anyone  by that point police had already searched the home   210 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:33,279 twice each time they found nothing out of the  ordinary he's definitely starting to look more   211 00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:40,079 suspicious to us at that point he's our only good  possible suspect at that point we ruled out a lot   212 00:22:40,079 --> 00:22:44,879 of possibilities by through all those witness  interviews he's the last person to see her alive   213 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,800 during domestic relationships at that point  where they're looking to break up or separate   214 00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:54,159 those are usually the most  volatile times and so that all   215 00:22:54,799 --> 00:22:59,519 played into our level of  increasing suspicion of josh 216 00:23:03,839 --> 00:23:08,079 the mysterious missing person's  case was about to take a dramatic   217 00:23:08,079 --> 00:23:10,879 turn that's coming up on crime beat 218 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:23,040 welcome back to crime beat the mystery of what  happened to Shannon Madill unraveled quickly   219 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:27,519 and unexpectedly and now here's nancy Hixt   220 00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:37,759 on july 2nd 2015 just over seven months after  shannon disappeared detective witt went to josh   221 00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:45,920 burgess's home one more time this time to execute  the search warrant i knocked on the door and i   222 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:51,279 called his cell phone and he didn't answer the  first time and but we could hear the movement   223 00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:55,680 in the room so we also had already identified  but said again you know josh it's the police   224 00:23:56,400 --> 00:24:01,040 we just want you to come to the door we have  a warrant for your cell phone and your car we   225 00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:04,480 would like you to come out technically we have the  authority to come in but we just want you to come   226 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,599 to the door so that we can talk to you and deal  with this um he answered the phone the second time   227 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,440 and he i felt like he was trying to buy some time  like he was stalling with me and he's like i just   228 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,759 need a few minutes i need to go downstairs i need  to put my pants on and they're in the wash and   229 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,360 you know he's kind of upset and he's like well  why do you need to speak to me and i'm trying   230 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,599 to explain and you know i'm getting a little  frustrated i'm like josh honestly we just need you   231 00:24:29,599 --> 00:24:34,159 to come to the door we just want you to talk to us  we have this court order come to the door so that   232 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:39,360 this is a lot easier than it has you know let's  make this easy for you and me and come to the door   233 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:44,079 and so he's kind of stalling and i think really he  was just trying to figure out what he was going to   234 00:24:44,079 --> 00:24:49,199 do what his next step was because we caught him  off guard detective witt said what happened next   235 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:55,200 was the last thing she expected he gets very  upset and starts crying and blurts out to me that   236 00:24:55,839 --> 00:25:01,039 i killed her i killed my wife i verbalized that  so that the other people with me understand   237 00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:05,119 what's happening and i'm like i'm sorry  josh can you say that again and he's like   238 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:10,799 yes i killed my wife and i said you killed shannon  he said yes i killed shannon and so then that was   239 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:16,399 just a complete transition they changed the  situation and from that point on we went from   240 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:21,519 him just coming to the door to give us  his cell phone to now we need to negotiate   241 00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:27,200 to get him out of the house safely safely for  him safely for us detective witt kept him on the   242 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:34,080 phone for an hour and 20 minutes until finally  he came out he wasn't really wearing anything   243 00:25:34,079 --> 00:25:40,240 other than a pair of underwear and he was covered  in blood which i wasn't expecting josh burgess   244 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:47,359 was taken to hospital he had used a small like  a pocket knife and had been cutting at his neck   245 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:54,319 so once he was assessed medically it was  determined that he hadn't cut any main artery   246 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,759 so he hadn't lost he'd lost quite a bit  of blood but it required some stitching   247 00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:04,480 he didn't require surgery but then he had  to be held over for a psych assessment   248 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:13,039 in the meantime police got another warrant they  needed to search the home it was the next night   249 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:19,519 after josh was released from hospital that he was  arrested and taken to calgary police headquarters   250 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:29,680 detective kurt jacobs was the first to try to  get josh to open up hey josh hey doing all right   251 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:39,440 consider him i'm kirk i know that shannon's dead   252 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,560 and i also know that you're  responsible for her death 253 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:55,279 i know that definitively what's going through your  head buddy i really miss her you miss her yeah   254 00:26:55,279 --> 00:27:05,839 yeah look at this picture and tell me  what you would say to her if you could 255 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:14,400 same thing i always said to her yeah what was that  that i loved very much that you love her very much   256 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:21,279 well into the wee hours of the following day  detective witt went in to talk to burgess   257 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:29,439 you can tell me do the right thing for shannon  and tell me but burgess wasn't willing to talk   258 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:36,960 anymore detectives decided to let him rest but  before they did they let him know one more thing   259 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,759 the cadaver dogs are finding some  stuff right now so there's a lot   260 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:45,119 going on at the house so we're going to  focus our attention on that right now   261 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,719 and you can have a sleep and someone  will be in to speak with you tomorrow 262 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:59,680 as cadaver dog searched his home  josh burgess slept morning josh   263 00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:08,480 get any sleep i think so a little bit in the  morning detective jacobs came in with an update 264 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:16,720 we have shannon body she's been  recovered but there's no doubt 265 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:25,360 you're responsible for the death  of shannon we have evidence you've   266 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,839 already admitted to killing her her  body's been recovered on your property   267 00:28:31,039 --> 00:28:36,000 police found shannon she had  been at their home all along 268 00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:43,839 did you intend for this to happen josh 269 00:28:46,319 --> 00:28:52,000 can you put your head up for a few minutes  i know it's listen i know this is tough josh   270 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,759 i know it's difficult for you but i realize that   271 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:11,839 burgess was again left alone he stared  at shannon's head shot and whispered 272 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,319 josh i just got some stuff here i'm gonna hook up 273 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:32,160 i'm a detective at the home segment a short  time later a third officer detective ray bangloy   274 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:39,360 took over the interview my goal my purpose of  this interview is try to get the truth out of him   275 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,759 ultimately this is for for court  purposes and obviously the more   276 00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:48,799 information we have the better and it's also for  the victim's family so they can understand as to   277 00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:55,599 what happened and why this happened detective  bang loy is a veteran police investigator and   278 00:29:55,599 --> 00:30:01,599 wit's current partner he does undercover work  and that's why we're not showing his face   279 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:10,079 he's well known for his interview skills and for  getting offenders to confess i'm not here to judge   280 00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:16,799 you detective bangloy had the green light from  the prosecutor to charge him but he wanted to   281 00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:25,440 give burgess one final chance to tell his side  of the story i came home she was on the couch   282 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:38,720 there's a little bit of misunderstanding where shannon believes that josh said break up sex and that's when she kind   283 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:47,039 of just goes off on on josh and starts saying  very cruel things he mentions um to josh that   284 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:57,119 she regretted marrying him that she never needed  him by her side and that he was the worst husband   285 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:05,200 and just a lot of very cruel things and  after that josh was trying to just calm   286 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:11,519 her down and actually puts his hand on  her mouth and shannon bites his hand   287 00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:20,399 and screams i just wanted her to stop talking you  wanted her to stop talking but what was she saying 288 00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:43,039 she said she was disgusted touching you what else did she do what else did she say 289 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,880 and what happened i 290 00:34:35,380 --> 00:34:44,977 he choked shannon until she was  lifeless he seemed very remorseful and as he was 291 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:53,519 telling me uh what happened he was he was crying  and very emotional um but once he did get the   292 00:34:53,519 --> 00:35:00,239 story out you could just tell it was it was  cathartic and it was like a huge weight off his   293 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:07,279 shoulders you know you think about it eight months  of carrying this lie and betraying the family that   294 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:15,840 took him in it was a huge emotional relief for  him shannon was gone murdered by her husband   295 00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:24,000 the entire time she was missing he kept her at  their home while police searched the house more   296 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:31,280 than once they never looked inside the storage  containers on the back porch he said he put bags   297 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:39,120 of empty bottles all around her so no one would  notice then just two weeks before his arrest he   298 00:35:39,119 --> 00:35:50,719 moved her body and buried her in the yard i chose  my lawn because it i just didn't want her to leave   299 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:59,359 i didn't want to hide her burgess maintained his  silence right up until that day he blurted his   300 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:06,480 confession out to detective wit he even stood with  the family as they made a plea to the public for   301 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:15,360 help knowing the whole time exactly where shannon  was i think josh was still very attached to her   302 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,920 and didn't and this isn't something he'd  ever done before i think he didn't know   303 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:26,079 what to do with her body and he didn't know how  to really part with her in maybe some ways and i   304 00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:31,440 don't know if that's what led to him hanging on  to her for so long certainly not something you   305 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,840 would normally see usually people try to get rid  of the evidence quickly and that's not what he did 306 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:45,280 after the break shannon's family finally  learns the truth about what happened to shannon 307 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,840 but would there be justice in her case   308 00:36:55,519 --> 00:37:01,759 police had a confession but would the  punishment fit the crime in her family's eyes   309 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:08,640 and now here's nancy hickst with the  conclusion of shannon mcdill's last audition   310 00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:16,559 josh burgess was charged with the second  degree murder of Shannon Madill her family   311 00:37:16,559 --> 00:37:23,279 finally began to grieve the loss a memorial is  being planned for this sunday for a calgary woman   312 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,800 murdered earlier this year the family of shannon  madill burgess has been on an emotional roller   313 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,720 coaster first she was missing for months then her  body was discovered and her husband is charged   314 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,919 with her murder nancy hicks is covering this story  and nancy her family wants to celebrate shannon's   315 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,639 life well this family has really been through the  worst possible nightmare first not knowing what   316 00:37:44,639 --> 00:37:50,079 happened to shannon and then getting the worst  news possible when her body was found so now   317 00:37:50,079 --> 00:38:03,840 nine months after she was last seen her family  is going to hold a tribute to the 25 year old   318 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:11,840 the sister will always be there to listen to  laugh to lean on to comfort or simply to care   319 00:38:13,039 --> 00:38:16,719 there's no one who's more in your corner  and no one you're more grateful to   320 00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:31,839 there's no better friendly sister  and no better sister than you   321 00:38:35,679 --> 00:38:42,639 the truth about what happened that fateful night  wouldn't come out until more than two years later   322 00:38:42,639 --> 00:38:47,920 during the court proceedings good afternoon we  have breaking news from the calgary court center   323 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,720 joshua burgess has pled guilty to second-degree  murder in the death of his wife shannon   324 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,719 global's nancy hixt is at the court with  the latest nancy what can you tell us on this   325 00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:02,480 well the justice in this case will be passing his  sentence in just a few minutes burgess faces an   326 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,719 automatic life sentence defense and  the crown have made a joint submission   327 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,959 for parole ineligibility suggesting  that burgess served 10 years before   328 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,440 he is eligible for any kind of release there  were tears in the courtroom as the details of   329 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,079 the killing of shannon Shannon Madill burgess were read  along with emotional victim impact statements   330 00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:25,199 joshua burgess admits he strangled his wife to  death first with his hands and then his belt   331 00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:30,639 he then hit her body in a large plastic container  that he kept on his patio for about seven   332 00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:36,559 months before burying her in his front yard he  waited until the very last second to plead guilty   333 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:43,360 based off of his behavior with the  murder with everything he did afterwards   334 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,599 the ways in which he intentionally went  around to save his own hide repeatedly   335 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:55,199 i find it very hard to believe that  his choice to plead guilty had anything   336 00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:59,519 to do with helping us i believe  it was entirely a selfish decision   337 00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:03,759 because he didn't want his confession to be aired  and he didn't want to have to sit through a trial   338 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:12,080 i should clarify because there was no trial the  videotaped confession wasn't played in court the   339 00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:19,360 first time his confession was made public was on  an episode of my crimebeat podcast about shannon's   340 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:27,280 case josh burgess was sentenced to life in prison  with no chance of parole for at least 10 years   341 00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:32,000 no sentence would ever be sufficient to make up  for the loss we've endured i think it's something   342 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:38,480 that we've all kind of had to to to weigh uh you  know the sense of betrayal of him sitting with us   343 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:45,600 conversing with us and um you know that i  think just makes it that much more difficult to   344 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:53,360 to process shannon's family trusted  josh he was like family to them so this   345 00:40:53,360 --> 00:41:02,960 was the ultimate betrayal the fact that that  he led us on for seven months and was quite   346 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:09,119 prepared to pretend he knew nothing about it  and let us you know have to live with all of the   347 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:15,600 the not knowing and that betrayal was really the  only emotion that i felt i was not angry with him   348 00:41:16,639 --> 00:41:23,920 i was not i didn't want to harm him it was  sadness and betrayal it was how could you do   349 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:30,000 this to us and to our family we supported you when  we thought that your wife was missing and you've   350 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:36,480 done this thing the real gut punch happened when i  finally found out the whole story because at this   351 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:42,079 point in time i still believed that even if he was  involved it had to have been an accident some way   352 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:47,679 i never thought that he actually intentionally  would hurt her but more you have a fight at the   353 00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:53,199 top of the stairs push her she hits her head on  the way down and he panicked that was sort of the   354 00:41:53,199 --> 00:42:01,839 narrative that i had up until this point it wasn't  it wasn't an accident he he chose to kill her   355 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:11,760 josh burgess is eligible to apply for  day parole in july of 2022 shannon's   356 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:17,600 family plans to attend those hearings so the  parole board fully understands the impact   357 00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:23,440 of his crime the way i like to describe it is that  there's a little piece of my heart that's died   358 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:30,960 and that's where she lives and sometimes  i can take it out and grieve over it   359 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:35,119 and then i can put it away and go  back to what i was doing before 360 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:43,760 shannon used to come to this spot to walk  her dog or take in a view of the city it's   361 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:51,440 just blocks from where she lived with josh it's  where her ashes are scattered and it's where her   362 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:59,840 family comes to remember her on her birthday  and raise a glass in her honor she was such a   363 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:10,480 an amazing funny creative intelligent individual  that i just find it so sad that that that was   364 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:18,960 taken away and you know i'm selfish i i'm i'm very  sad it was taken away from me i'm sad it was taken   365 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:25,840 away from all of the family and beyond that i'm  sad that it was taken away from the world that   366 00:43:27,679 --> 00:43:32,480 because i think she could have done some really  amazing things if she'd been given the time to 367 00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:39,839 the countless home videos of shannon  are treasures her family holds dear   368 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:46,639 there even just for a few moments  she comes alive again on screen   369 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:56,000 at the end of her final audition tape recorded the  same day she was killed shannon signs off it's the   370 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:04,559 closest thing to a goodbye her family ever got  to hear so so yeah uh that's me uh are we good   371 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:12,720 thanks i'm gonna go i have to do this editing  thing for tonight you're gonna edit this right   372 00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,000 a memorial scholarship was handed  out in Shannon Madill's name in 2019   373 00:44:24,639 --> 00:44:29,759 the gems for gem charity organization  presented the special award to a survivor   374 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:35,840 of domestic abuse to honor shannon's  memory with the gift of education   375 00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:43,519 i'm anthony robart thank you for  joining us tonight on crime week   376 00:44:46,159 --> 00:44:51,039 want more on this crime beat episode  listen to my crimebeat podcast   377 00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:56,400 now for free on apple podcasts spotify  or wherever you find your favorite 378 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:03,840 podcasts 50045

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