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[Herbie Hancock]
I began making this album,
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and the idea came
from my realizing
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that so many musicians are putinto what we call a pigeonhole.
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Whatever is the record
that made them famous,
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they were continually encouragedto do that same kind of thing
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time and time again.
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I'm looking for people
from various genres
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that I feel might be interestedin exploring the territory
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that could possibly develop
from a collaboration with me
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and perhaps maybe somethingtotally different would happen.
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Did you get a chance
to listen to--
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Of course. Yeah,
I heard a few things.
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Is it too high or too low?
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I think it's right.
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Can we go to the piano
and just check it out?
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The record is really
a collaboration
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between myself and a lot
of different artists.
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Right.
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And the spirit of it is--
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is that each artist brings
what they bring to the table,
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I bring what I bring
to the table,
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and then we see what happens
when we get together.
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Because, like, you know,
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there's certain things
that I bring to the table
from my experience,
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you know,
coming from jazz,
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and then there are things
that you bring to the table:
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your youth, your connections
to the music of the era
that you're born in.
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- Okay.
- And it's turning out
to be really nice.
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Good.
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♪
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♪ I've been in so many places
in my life and times ♪
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♪ I've sung a lot of songs
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♪ I've made some bad rhyme
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♪ I've acted out my life
in stages ♪
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♪ With 10,000 people watchin'
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♪ We're alone now
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♪ And I'm singing this song
for you ♪
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♪ I know your image of me
is what I hope to be ♪
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Can I have more reverb, please?
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♪ I've treated you unkindly
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♪ Baby, can't you see
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♪ There's no one
more important to me ♪
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♪ So, darlin', can't you
please see through me ♪
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I can't hear myself.I need more reverb than we had.
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Please.
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♪ Don't you
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♪ I love you in a place
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♪ Where there's
no space or time ♪
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♪ I love you for my life
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♪ 'Cause you're
a friend of mine ♪
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♪ And when my life is over
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♪ Remember we were together
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Whoo!
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- [chuckles]
- Hot.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, no lie.
[laughs]
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Great, man.
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That's it. I better go back
to the drawing board.
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Do you want to
listen to that?
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Yeah, sure, let's go in.
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I had to take off my sweater.
I got too hot.
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Yeah, right. I'm hot too.
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I feel that
many of our systems
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that work to
encourage creativity
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are being challenged,
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and there's more encouragement
to stay where you are.
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Don't make a wave.
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I think the word
that kind of captures
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the spirit of
what I believe in
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and what I'm really about
and what I hope to achieve
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is the word "possibilities."
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As children, we have that sensethat anything is possible
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and we have that kind of
openness; we're not jaded.
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The older we get,
the more closed-in we get,
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the more frightened we get,the more set in our ways we get
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because we're afraid
of the unknown,
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whereas as a child,
everything is unknown.
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What a beautiful place
to reside in, you know,
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in your own being,
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you know, where you still
have the wonder of a child.
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♪ [vocalizing]
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That's cool for
the middle of the tune.
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But when Herbie starts to play,you go with it.
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I got a phone call:
"You want to record
with Herbie Hancock?"
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"Yeah, absolutely.
What can I do for Herbie?"
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The only thing
I can imagine is that,
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"Okay, he must want me to
play in my own little way."
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So I really didn't get
that nervous comin' in
because...
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I knew that I must've been askedfor something I've already done,
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which is definitely not
playing jazz because
I'd just butcher it.
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So I'm just kind of
trying to do my thing,
whatever that might be,
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and see what that turns out to.
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On that bridge part,
what did you say,
there's that popish thing?
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Yeah.
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I'm wondering if we could,
on that D chord,
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if we could make it
like a B-flat chord
with the D on the bottom.
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- Okay.- You know like that B-flat too.
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And then the G chord,
put a B on the bottom.
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I didn't know what to expect.I'd never met John Mayer before.
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I had been told
that John had an idea,
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and I didn't know
what that idea was.
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I had written this groove
on the guitar called
"The Day Before."
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So I started
playing this groove.
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♪ [scatting]
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We just started.
He's got a groove goin'.
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And then little by little
a lot of fragments formed.
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To this day, I don't know
exactly what he had
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before we started playing.
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But somehow, right away,
things started to happen.
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Amazing.
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I like that beginning
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where we don't do
the drum thing.
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It's more like just vocal,
and that's very nice.
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Now, when you did that,
you said--
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♪
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[Herbie]
I enjoy the process
of collaborative effort.
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Influence each other
and share ideas,
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pick off energy
from the vibe of each other.
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- Turn it up.
- Give me that again.
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♪ Girls like that
don't sleep alone ♪
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Yeah. That's nice.
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All right. Keep that.
Write that down.
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♪ Girls like that
don't sleep alone ♪
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[John]
When the moment is right,
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you just have
to really channel
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what that song is all about
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and stay there
for as long as possible
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in that pinhole of focus
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and just write
as fast as you can
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'cause, you know,
you get out of that
and it's gone.
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♪ Exactly how you see it
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♪ It's exactly how
it all went down ♪
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♪ [singing, indistinct]
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It could be that.
It could be that.
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Or it could be...
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Yeah, I wish I could
bend the notes.
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[scatting]
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[Herbie]
The chordal structure's
starting to be built.
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Rhythmic structure,
rhythmic ideas,
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and then he was
making up a melody.
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He probably had some
melody ideas before,
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but he didn't have lyrics,
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so he just started making up
some words as he went along.
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Some of them were really good.
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♪ Don't move a thing now
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♪ You cannot go
I'll never go ♪
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♪ But girls like that
don't sleep alone ♪
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[John]A friend of mine, Pino Paladino,a great bass player also.
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Pino and I had lunch one day,
and Pino says,
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"Yeah, man.
The last thing you need is
a girl to stitch you up."
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And I went,
"What does that mean?"
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"You know, stitch you up,
like, you know, do you wrong."
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And I went,
"Wow, that's cool.
Stitch me up."
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♪ Stitched up
Out of my mind ♪
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♪ Feelin' strung out
Laggin' behind ♪
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♪ All trapped in
I can't do a thing ♪
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♪ Because I'm locked down
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♪ Stitched up
Feelin' the burn ♪
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♪ All strung out
I finally learned that ♪
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♪ Trapped in
you can't do a thing ♪
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♪ Because you're locked down
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♪ Stitched up
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♪ Strung out
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♪ Trap me in and lock me down
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♪ Stitch me up
and string me out ♪
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♪ Trap me in and lock me down
Lock me down ♪
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♪ Stitch me up
String me out ♪
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♪ Lock me down
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[applause]
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Thank you.
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No, no. Great lyrics.
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He's out for a second.
He'll be right back.
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So when he comes back,
let's have him
and everybody meet.
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There he is now.
He's back. Hold on.
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So we all know who's here.
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Yeah, here I am.
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- Great.
- Hi.
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- So here's Raul.
- Hey, Greg.
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Hey, Raul. How are you, man?
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- Good. Excellent.
- Hey, Raul?
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- Hey.
- Hey.
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- Sounds real beautiful, man.
- Oh, thank you.
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In terms of, like,
the phrasing,
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is there room for--
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Well, I'll just sing.
Is there room for like
going a little bit over?
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It's very simple.
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- Go ahead and try things.
- Excellent.
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We're doing a truly
bicoastal session.
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Herbie and Greg are in L.A.,
and we're here in New York.
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And we're working together
bicoastally in real time.
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It's pretty amazing.
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♪ [scatting]
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- There goes your solo.
- Yeah, right.
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♪ [imitates trumpet]
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- Whoa!
- Tonguing and everything.
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- Good thing Miles ain't here.
- Yeah.
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He'll have something
to say about that.
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♪ Yeah
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♪ Yeah
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Well, you know, Herbie
doesn't haveto solo.
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[all laughing]
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You just really kicked
Herbie out of his own solo.
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I hope you feel good
about that.
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I mean, you know, forget
his name's on the record.
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He didn't really
have to solo.
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That's just in case
nothing else came up.
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Don't worry about it.
I get all the credit for it.
It's okay.
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♪ No New Year's Day
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♪ To celebrate
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♪ No chocolate-covered
candy hearts ♪
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♪ To give away
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♪ No first of spring
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♪ No song to sing
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♪ In fact, here's just another
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♪ Ordinary day
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♪ Ooh
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♪ No April rain
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♪ No...
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- Sorry.
- [music stops]
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Do not be sorry, okay?
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Bingo on the first verse.
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- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Bingo on the first verse.
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Let me get that entrance too.
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Just for "No April rain."
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- The first phrase was cool.
- That was sweet.
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He forgot the lyrics.
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I just blanked out
on the lyric there.
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Does he have them in Braille?
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He probably does, yeah.
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♪ No New Year's Day
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I like that.
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♪ To celebrate
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[Raul]
This is an incredibly reworked
version of this song.
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I was so glad
when I heard the track
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because it's a different thing
so that it doesn't sound like
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the great Stevie Wonder track
that it was.
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It sounds like something
completely different.
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♪ I just called to say
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♪ I love you
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[Raul]
Herbie is a major force
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in terms of my inspiration
as a musician and an artist.
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Just the amazing arch
of the career,
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it's inspiring,
you know, for me
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and I'm sure for all of us
who are of us doing this,
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that somebody didn't rest
on the incredible laurels
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that he had just for
being with Miles.
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On piano, Herbie Hancock.
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[Herbie]I joined his band when I was 23,
252
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and I left when I was 28.
253
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The majority of my twenties
was spent playing with
Mile Davis's band.
254
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And here comes,
Miles Davis.
255
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There were certain things
that he said
256
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and certain things
that he stood for
257
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that had a profound influence
on my music and on my life.
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♪
259
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There were so many things
I learned from Miles
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about standing up for
what you believe in.
261
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And I learned a lot about
listening from Miles.
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About turning whatever
happens musically
263
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into something of value.
264
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That's what you try to do,
265
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rather than be judgmental aboutwhat some other guy is playing.
266
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Leave judgment
out of the picture
267
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and just take what's there and
make something happen with it.
268
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He told us that he paid us
to practice on stage
269
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in front of the people,
not in our rooms.
270
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We could practice in our rooms,but don't bring that down
271
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and play that in front of peoplebecause that's not jazz.
272
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Jazz is at the moment.
You play the moment.
273
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And it has, you know--
Each moment is fresh.
274
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That's not an easy thing to do.It takes a lot of courage.
275
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It takes a lot of trust,
276
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and it takes
a kind of nakedness
277
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to be able to accomplish that.
278
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At least to be able
to approach it even.
279
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But Miles provided a platform
280
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for all the members
of his then-young band
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to exam that arena,
282
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to reach beyond
the comfort zone.
283
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You know, and go into areas
284
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that where we don't know
intellectually or musically
285
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what the result is.
286
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Kind of go into that dark room
and create something.
287
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[applause]
288
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Yoo-hoo.
289
00:24:24,566 --> 00:24:25,671
Hello?
290
00:24:25,705 --> 00:24:29,882
- [dog barking]
- Shit!
291
00:24:29,916 --> 00:24:31,884
See if there's another way in.
292
00:24:31,918 --> 00:24:33,851
Well, there's one big dog. Heyn.
293
00:24:33,886 --> 00:24:36,371
Well, there's one big dog. Hey!
294
00:24:36,405 --> 00:24:39,305
- How you doin', man?
- Nice to meet you.
295
00:24:39,339 --> 00:24:40,927
Great, great.
296
00:24:40,962 --> 00:24:43,792
Thanks for inviting me to this.
297
00:24:48,383 --> 00:24:53,146
[Herbie]
Trey told me that
the inspiration for him
298
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for a long time,
for many, many years,
since he was a kid,
299
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was the Jack Johnson record
of Miles Davis.
300
00:25:02,431 --> 00:25:04,951
I was on that record.
301
00:25:04,986 --> 00:25:08,507
He said that to him
was the inspiration for...
302
00:25:08,541 --> 00:25:11,613
for the whole jam band scene.
303
00:25:22,175 --> 00:25:24,074
[Herbie]
You know something?
304
00:25:25,316 --> 00:25:27,215
It seems like everything
is based on the same...
305
00:25:27,249 --> 00:25:29,804
- Yeah.
- And it's a horrible feeling.
306
00:25:29,838 --> 00:25:32,427
But it was one of those times,
and I think Miles noticed it.
307
00:25:32,461 --> 00:25:34,533
So he leaned over to me
and said,
308
00:25:34,567 --> 00:25:37,950
"Don't play
the butter notes."
309
00:25:37,984 --> 00:25:41,643
And I said, "Okay."
I had no idea what
he was talking about.
310
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♪
311
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So I was thinking,
"What does that mean,
butter notes?"
312
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I thought
fat notes, fat notes.
313
00:25:48,512 --> 00:25:51,066
Harmonically ,
I started thinking,
"Well, what's obvious?"
314
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The third and the seven.
315
00:25:52,827 --> 00:25:55,312
It tells you if
it's a major or a minor
316
00:25:55,346 --> 00:25:57,832
or a diminish or
major or-- you know.
317
00:25:57,866 --> 00:26:01,249
I said, "Well, let me try
leaving out the thirds and
the sevenths as an exercise."
318
00:26:05,702 --> 00:26:11,570
I knew that Miles didn't care
how good you sounded.
319
00:26:11,604 --> 00:26:13,641
You know,
he wasn't about that.
320
00:26:13,675 --> 00:26:15,884
He only cared that you were
working on something.
321
00:26:22,166 --> 00:26:23,789
Miles made us
feel comfortable.
322
00:26:23,823 --> 00:26:28,621
He would never tell us
what to play. Never, never.
323
00:26:28,656 --> 00:26:31,141
He would give us
something to figure out
324
00:26:31,175 --> 00:26:34,213
so we could figure out
the solution ourselves.
325
00:26:34,247 --> 00:26:36,905
Which is--
That's how a master teaches.
326
00:26:36,940 --> 00:26:42,739
A master doesn't tell you
what to do because a master
wants you to reveal yourself.
327
00:26:52,887 --> 00:26:55,061
[Herbie]
This is real collaboration
that we're doing here.
328
00:26:55,096 --> 00:26:58,030
None of these arrangements
are just finished
329
00:26:58,064 --> 00:27:01,792
the night before or two
or three nights before,
330
00:27:01,827 --> 00:27:03,000
completely done,
331
00:27:03,035 --> 00:27:05,796
the I's are dotted
and the T's are crossed
332
00:27:05,831 --> 00:27:07,591
and everything
is all planned
333
00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:09,317
and everybody gets
told what to do.
334
00:27:09,351 --> 00:27:11,768
None of this record so far
has been like that.
335
00:27:11,802 --> 00:27:15,185
It's all been really
decided at the session.
336
00:27:27,922 --> 00:27:31,166
[Trey]
What I would naturally do
337
00:27:31,201 --> 00:27:35,136
is I would start composing
the stuff a little bit more.
338
00:27:35,170 --> 00:27:37,034
So we have these
jam band sections,
339
00:27:37,069 --> 00:27:38,795
but you take
some of those things,
340
00:27:38,829 --> 00:27:41,211
and that would be
my natural inclination,
341
00:27:41,245 --> 00:27:42,937
if there's anything
I could add.
342
00:27:42,971 --> 00:27:47,355
Then I'd start thinking
of trying to make it
a little more structured,
343
00:27:47,389 --> 00:27:49,357
whereas the Headhunters
or even the Miles thing,
344
00:27:49,391 --> 00:27:52,878
and Miles did it with that,for instance, wrote the themes.
345
00:27:52,912 --> 00:27:54,500
Which is just a scrap.
I can do that.
346
00:27:54,534 --> 00:27:56,571
- Okay.
- That's not why I'm here.
347
00:27:56,605 --> 00:27:59,401
- Okay, great.
- You know what I mean?
348
00:27:59,436 --> 00:28:01,610
I'm here because of stuff
that I don't know what to do.
349
00:28:01,645 --> 00:28:06,408
I was trying to get more
of what he's been doing
350
00:28:06,443 --> 00:28:11,586
in the territory that
he's been exploring lately .
351
00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:16,211
I was trying to...
352
00:28:16,246 --> 00:28:18,593
pull that out of him.
353
00:28:18,627 --> 00:28:21,872
But he wasn't going that way.
354
00:28:21,907 --> 00:28:23,287
If I wanted to do
Headhunters,
355
00:28:23,322 --> 00:28:29,155
I could call Paul Jackson
and get the Headhunters.
356
00:28:29,190 --> 00:28:31,192
Let's say you took--
and tell me if this is--
357
00:28:31,226 --> 00:28:33,781
- I'm just talkin'.
- No, go ahead.
358
00:28:33,815 --> 00:28:35,679
- Let's say you took--
- No. Look, look.
359
00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:38,475
- I'm open to all ideas.- Let's say took this idea here.
360
00:28:41,133 --> 00:28:43,860
- ♪ [humming]
- Mm-hmm.
361
00:28:48,761 --> 00:28:51,591
Yeah. yeah. It does have
that flavor and accent.
362
00:28:51,626 --> 00:28:53,559
Very nice.
So let's say you're--
363
00:28:53,593 --> 00:28:55,872
♪ [continues improvising]
364
00:28:55,906 --> 00:28:58,667
And then there's
that thing that...
365
00:28:58,702 --> 00:29:00,808
Even if they're
just signposts.
366
00:29:00,842 --> 00:29:02,568
♪ [humming]
367
00:29:02,602 --> 00:29:04,087
Right. Right, right.
368
00:29:04,121 --> 00:29:05,882
We could do that, like,
48 times and then--
369
00:29:05,916 --> 00:29:07,159
[imitating drums]
370
00:29:07,193 --> 00:29:09,575
Yeah. I'm down.
371
00:29:09,609 --> 00:29:12,129
If you really want to get crazy,what you could do--
372
00:29:12,164 --> 00:29:15,374
[Herbie]
Everybody kept on getting
more and more ideas about--
373
00:29:15,408 --> 00:29:18,618
"Oh, why don't' we try this
and put this track on?
Try this track.
374
00:29:18,653 --> 00:29:20,724
How about if we
put this on top?"
375
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:23,382
Pretty soon,
we buried the track.
376
00:29:23,416 --> 00:29:26,903
You can't even hear
what we originally had.
377
00:29:28,421 --> 00:29:29,975
That's not at all--
378
00:29:30,009 --> 00:29:32,874
That's pretty much what
they're all dancing to
out there.
379
00:29:32,909 --> 00:29:35,152
That's what we're
taking about, right?
380
00:29:35,187 --> 00:29:36,257
[all improvising]
381
00:30:19,956 --> 00:30:22,821
[Trey]
When you look at the world,
382
00:30:22,855 --> 00:30:24,892
there's so much stuff
you're excited about,
383
00:30:24,926 --> 00:30:26,479
it's really infectious
384
00:30:26,514 --> 00:30:30,069
and it makes me think that...
anything is possible.
385
00:30:30,104 --> 00:30:33,245
'Cause I think that
there's people I know
that-- they just stop.
386
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:37,836
Soon as they latch on to
something where people say,
387
00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:39,838
"Hey, that's really good,"
388
00:30:39,872 --> 00:30:42,979
then they want to stay there
because there's security,
there's acceptance.
389
00:30:43,013 --> 00:30:46,465
Whatever there is, you know,
and they feel comfortable.
390
00:30:46,499 --> 00:30:49,295
And they don't want to move
outside that comfort zone.
391
00:30:49,330 --> 00:30:52,229
But the hip stuff is
outside the comfort zone.
392
00:32:38,542 --> 00:32:44,272
[Herbie]
There's a discovery processof who you are as an individual.
393
00:32:44,307 --> 00:32:47,551
At the end of the day,
394
00:32:47,586 --> 00:32:51,279
nobody can take from you...
395
00:32:51,314 --> 00:32:55,697
what's created
by your own being.
396
00:33:00,909 --> 00:33:04,983
Yeah, this is one of those songsthat has a lot of ways
it could go.
397
00:33:08,745 --> 00:33:14,130
It's actually C-sharp
minus seven, flat 5
is that's what it is,
398
00:33:14,164 --> 00:33:15,372
with an F-sharp
on the bottom.
399
00:33:15,407 --> 00:33:17,996
- Oh, that's what it is.
- If that helps.
400
00:33:19,169 --> 00:33:22,517
♪ You know that I love you
401
00:33:22,552 --> 00:33:26,073
♪ You know that
I love you ♪
402
00:33:26,107 --> 00:33:30,318
♪ You know that I love you
403
00:33:30,353 --> 00:33:32,734
I'm trying to figure out
should I do it falsetto there
or just--
404
00:33:32,769 --> 00:33:33,873
Full voice, I think.
405
00:33:33,908 --> 00:33:36,083
♪ You know that I love you
406
00:33:36,117 --> 00:33:37,360
Yeah. More feeling.
407
00:33:37,394 --> 00:33:40,639
♪ And there's love in your
408
00:33:41,743 --> 00:33:44,229
Okay.
409
00:33:44,263 --> 00:33:46,990
I brought my part out.
[laughs]
410
00:34:05,940 --> 00:34:09,150
♪ So hush now
411
00:34:09,185 --> 00:34:13,396
♪ Don't explain
412
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:18,711
♪ There ain't nothin' to gain
413
00:34:21,887 --> 00:34:25,753
♪ Well, I'm glad
414
00:34:25,787 --> 00:34:28,825
♪ You're back
415
00:34:28,859 --> 00:34:31,828
♪ But don't explain
416
00:34:34,831 --> 00:34:37,351
They suggested the song
"Don't Explain."
417
00:34:38,731 --> 00:34:41,044
And I said,
"Well, that's cool.
418
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:44,427
That's a Billie Holiday tune.
Can they deliver that?"
419
00:34:44,461 --> 00:34:47,292
These are two very young
artists from Ireland.
420
00:34:54,471 --> 00:34:57,992
♪ Quiet, baby
421
00:34:58,026 --> 00:35:03,101
♪ Don't explain
422
00:35:03,135 --> 00:35:09,659
♪ You know there ain't
nothing to gain ♪
423
00:35:11,799 --> 00:35:20,739
♪ Skip that lipstick
424
00:35:20,773 --> 00:35:22,741
♪ Don't explain
425
00:35:22,775 --> 00:35:25,640
And then it goes...
[humming]
426
00:35:25,675 --> 00:35:26,986
And when it comes back,
427
00:35:27,021 --> 00:35:29,472
would it be better to go into,
straight into the...
428
00:35:29,506 --> 00:35:32,509
♪ You know that I love you
429
00:35:32,544 --> 00:35:37,065
♪ And what love endures
430
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:42,278
♪ All my thoughts are of you
431
00:35:42,312 --> 00:35:47,075
♪ I am so completely yours
432
00:35:47,110 --> 00:35:51,839
♪ Don't wanna hear
folks chatter ♪
433
00:35:51,873 --> 00:35:56,706
♪ 'Cause I know you cheat
434
00:35:56,740 --> 00:36:01,331
♪ Right or wrong
don't matter ♪
435
00:36:01,366 --> 00:36:06,025
♪ When I'm with you, sweet
436
00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:08,407
When I hear
blues singers sing,
437
00:36:08,442 --> 00:36:12,170
I mean, that's sensitive,
heartfelt stuff.
438
00:36:12,204 --> 00:36:13,930
Damien and Lisa
sound like that.
439
00:36:13,964 --> 00:36:16,104
Just tears your heart out.
440
00:36:16,139 --> 00:36:19,901
♪ Hush now
441
00:36:19,936 --> 00:36:23,767
♪ Don't explain
442
00:36:26,425 --> 00:36:32,466
♪ You know, you're my joy
and you're my pain ♪
443
00:36:35,193 --> 00:36:39,404
There's so much jazz
in the notes and phrases
that she picks.
444
00:36:39,438 --> 00:36:42,821
She was singin' the ninthsand the elevenths of the chords.
445
00:36:42,855 --> 00:36:47,722
I mean, some of the things
sound like choices that
Miles would have made.
446
00:36:49,586 --> 00:37:00,114
♪ Don't explain
447
00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:11,229
I like that.
[harmonizing]
448
00:37:11,263 --> 00:37:12,506
[chuckling]
449
00:37:12,540 --> 00:37:14,508
Yeah.
[humming]
450
00:37:14,542 --> 00:37:15,923
- Whatever that was.
- Huh? What?
451
00:37:15,957 --> 00:37:18,097
Whatever that thing was.
452
00:37:18,132 --> 00:37:19,858
- Oh, what I just did?
- Yeah.
453
00:37:19,892 --> 00:37:22,688
- I don't remember.
- [all laugh]
454
00:37:35,701 --> 00:37:37,703
Are we there yet?
We're getting there.
455
00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:41,259
It's a party, man!
456
00:37:50,785 --> 00:37:52,442
♪ Let's get together
457
00:37:53,961 --> 00:37:55,721
♪ Let's get together
458
00:37:57,344 --> 00:37:59,415
♪ Let's get together
459
00:37:59,449 --> 00:38:02,763
[Carlos]
To be here right now with
Herbie is very, very special.
460
00:38:02,797 --> 00:38:06,042
It's the whole--
This is what I dream of
all of my life to be around.
461
00:38:06,076 --> 00:38:08,596
And it ain't about the color.
I feel the same way
about Bob Dylan.
462
00:38:16,984 --> 00:38:19,711
[Herbie]
Music doesn't just
grow out of thin air.
463
00:38:19,745 --> 00:38:22,783
It comes from the life of the
people that are playin' it.
464
00:38:22,817 --> 00:38:26,545
The human spirit of the artist,not just from the notes
and harmonies
465
00:38:26,580 --> 00:38:28,858
and from their musicality.
466
00:38:42,216 --> 00:38:43,355
Yup. Great.
467
00:38:43,390 --> 00:38:45,461
Yeah, I'm ready.
I'm waiting for you.
468
00:39:18,770 --> 00:39:21,945
♪ [foreign language]
469
00:39:36,063 --> 00:39:37,616
Now the next one. Boom.
470
00:39:43,726 --> 00:39:45,486
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
471
00:39:52,251 --> 00:39:54,253
My darling, my love.
472
00:39:54,288 --> 00:39:57,084
- Oh, my darling.
- My love, my darling.
473
00:39:57,118 --> 00:40:00,087
My love, my darling.
Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
474
00:40:00,121 --> 00:40:01,295
Which African language is this?
475
00:40:01,329 --> 00:40:02,917
Safi, Safiis...
476
00:40:02,952 --> 00:40:07,335
This one is... Bambara.
477
00:40:07,370 --> 00:40:09,303
- Bambara.
- From Mali.
478
00:40:09,337 --> 00:40:12,962
Oh, from Mali. Oh.
Bambara, okay.
479
00:40:12,996 --> 00:40:14,377
How many languages
do you speak?
480
00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:16,206
- Eight.
- Whew!
481
00:40:16,241 --> 00:40:18,001
I'll write in "mina."
482
00:40:18,036 --> 00:40:21,833
♪ [singing]
483
00:40:21,867 --> 00:40:23,455
- What are you saying?
- No.
484
00:40:23,490 --> 00:40:28,011
Say, "Come. Let's all get
together and be stronger."
485
00:40:28,046 --> 00:40:30,531
Okay. Okay.
486
00:40:30,566 --> 00:40:31,808
Perfect.
487
00:40:31,843 --> 00:40:34,293
♪ [Bambara]
488
00:41:12,297 --> 00:41:14,299
[Herbie]
One of things that I want
to do with this record
489
00:41:14,333 --> 00:41:17,854
is have the music grow
out of the realities of life.
490
00:41:17,889 --> 00:41:22,031
We've taken some time to kind
of get to know each other
personally.
491
00:41:22,065 --> 00:41:25,137
Talk about other kinds of
things. Politics...
492
00:41:25,172 --> 00:41:29,038
I think free thought in
this country is at a loss.
493
00:41:29,072 --> 00:41:30,591
Well, there's no thought.
494
00:41:30,626 --> 00:41:34,215
- You're labeled unpatriotic
to question.
- Exactly.
495
00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:39,876
If you are working toward
touching the parts
of a person's life
496
00:41:39,911 --> 00:41:41,775
that have to do
with elegance--
497
00:41:41,809 --> 00:41:44,743
- Beauty, elegance, excellence,grace, dignity.
- Exactly.
498
00:41:44,778 --> 00:41:50,059
It's the opposite of those
who are trying to touch
499
00:41:50,093 --> 00:41:55,582
the part of a person's being
that is about power
for the sake of power.
500
00:41:55,616 --> 00:41:58,032
This is the thing.
We don't have to worry
about anybody else's doing.
501
00:41:58,067 --> 00:42:01,691
All you need to do is that
every day is a battlefield.
502
00:42:01,726 --> 00:42:04,936
But if you fight with anger,
you're the problem.
503
00:42:04,970 --> 00:42:07,455
If you fight with joy,
you're the solution.
504
00:42:42,629 --> 00:42:45,632
The craziness of
genocide in Rwanda
505
00:42:45,666 --> 00:42:49,187
shows you how cynical
we human beings try to be
506
00:42:49,221 --> 00:42:52,362
and how mean we can be by
trying to call ourselves gods
507
00:42:52,397 --> 00:42:55,193
because next to every embassy,
508
00:42:55,227 --> 00:42:59,438
you find huge holes
with a dead body in it
because of the genocide.
509
00:42:59,473 --> 00:43:01,682
Millions have been killed.
Millions.
510
00:43:01,717 --> 00:43:05,444
It's hard for me
to find joy every day
511
00:43:05,479 --> 00:43:08,171
because everywhere,
every step you go,
512
00:43:08,206 --> 00:43:11,968
you find on your way barriers
that just hold you back.
513
00:43:12,003 --> 00:43:15,109
It's like pounding on a wall
that doesn't want to move.
514
00:43:15,144 --> 00:43:19,527
But I will pound till it fallsbecause it has to be like that.
515
00:43:19,562 --> 00:43:21,840
- But light is stronger
than dark.
- Oh.
516
00:43:21,875 --> 00:43:23,704
And you have
a lot of light in you.
517
00:43:23,739 --> 00:43:27,294
- Conviction,
it's from your soul.
- Oh, definitely.
518
00:43:27,328 --> 00:43:29,641
You have to have conviction
to go out there and say,
519
00:43:29,676 --> 00:43:31,436
"You can't stop me.
520
00:43:31,470 --> 00:43:33,265
You cannot break my spirit.
521
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:35,992
Before I go
and I'm done with this body,
522
00:43:36,027 --> 00:43:40,031
there will be some hearts that
will be touched by my spirit."
523
00:44:41,402 --> 00:44:43,888
[all laughing]
524
00:44:43,922 --> 00:44:46,131
That's what I call
an ending.
525
00:44:46,166 --> 00:44:47,477
[applause]
526
00:44:47,512 --> 00:44:51,205
And now enjoy
a real divine treat.
527
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,656
Mr. Herbie Hancock,
Mr. Wayne Shorter.
528
00:44:55,727 --> 00:44:57,384
♪
529
00:45:07,187 --> 00:45:10,638
Of all the living
musicians today,
530
00:45:10,673 --> 00:45:13,849
[Herbie]
Wayne Shorter is the one
at the top of my list
531
00:45:13,849 --> 00:45:19,647
that grabs my attention, and
my respect, and my admiration.
532
00:45:25,895 --> 00:45:29,243
I met Wayne
back in the early '60s
before I joined Miles's band.
533
00:45:46,398 --> 00:45:49,091
I remember thinkin',
"Wayne is brilliant,
534
00:45:49,125 --> 00:45:54,613
but I can't tell whether
it's that he's a genius
or he's a madman."
535
00:46:04,865 --> 00:46:07,385
[Herbie]Well, I find out he's a genius.
536
00:46:29,372 --> 00:46:30,857
[Wayne]
There's no plan.
537
00:46:30,891 --> 00:46:33,549
It's just, you know,
come out there...
538
00:46:33,583 --> 00:46:35,240
vulnerable...
539
00:46:35,275 --> 00:46:37,587
and walk the walk.
540
00:46:37,622 --> 00:46:39,210
Thoughts, words and deeds.
541
00:46:49,496 --> 00:46:53,845
♪ We were married
on a rainy day ♪
542
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:58,885
♪ The sky was yellow
and grass was gray ♪
543
00:46:58,919 --> 00:47:03,475
♪ We signed the papers
and drove away ♪
544
00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:08,101
♪ I do it for your love
545
00:47:28,466 --> 00:47:33,505
♪ The sky was yellow
and the grass was gray ♪
546
00:47:33,954 --> 00:47:38,338
The concept of the record
is that it's a duet,
547
00:47:38,372 --> 00:47:47,278
so... the vocals are only
half of what's going on
548
00:47:55,182 --> 00:47:57,288
and the other half
Paul mentioned that maybe
we could do it as a duet.
549
00:47:57,322 --> 00:48:01,499
I said to Paul,
"What if we had maybe
two or three percussionists
550
00:48:01,533 --> 00:48:04,605
create some kind of
exotic rhythm track?"
551
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,988
Percussion certainly...
552
00:48:08,023 --> 00:48:12,717
could allow the spirit of a duetand not interfere with it.
553
00:48:12,751 --> 00:48:15,237
What are you guys thinking
rhythmically?
554
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,416
[Herbie]
Paul Simon came
to the recording studio
555
00:48:22,451 --> 00:48:25,316
a day earlier
than he was scheduled.
556
00:48:25,350 --> 00:48:28,526
Actually, I got to the studio,
he was already there.
557
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,668
He offered to organize
the percussion section.
558
00:48:32,702 --> 00:48:36,120
♪ [humming]
559
00:48:44,059 --> 00:48:48,649
♪ We were married
on a rainy day ♪
560
00:48:48,684 --> 00:48:53,620
♪ The sky was yellow
and the grass was gray ♪
561
00:48:53,654 --> 00:48:55,553
[Herbie]
He did do Graceland,
562
00:48:55,587 --> 00:48:57,175
combining a rhythmic track
563
00:48:57,210 --> 00:49:01,697
that had North African,
Middle Eastern influence.
564
00:49:01,731 --> 00:49:06,391
It kind of triggered
those memories in his head.
565
00:49:09,049 --> 00:49:10,775
Even though Herbie says,
566
00:49:10,809 --> 00:49:14,986
"Look, I don't want to make
a jazz record," you know,
567
00:49:15,021 --> 00:49:17,057
I think what he means is
568
00:49:17,092 --> 00:49:21,544
he doesn't want to make
a cliched jazz record.
569
00:49:21,579 --> 00:49:27,378
♪ The sky was yellow
the grass was gray ♪
570
00:49:27,412 --> 00:49:30,105
[Herbie]
The big surprise was
that he said to me,
571
00:49:30,139 --> 00:49:35,006
"Hey, Herbie, you think
there's a way for you to do
my tune in a minor key?"
572
00:49:35,041 --> 00:49:37,181
And I went...
573
00:49:37,215 --> 00:49:39,666
Hmm. Yeah, I think so."
574
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:52,230
Not only did Paul ask me
if I could do this song
in a minor key,
575
00:49:52,265 --> 00:49:57,442
but the other suggestion
he made was to do the song
576
00:49:57,477 --> 00:50:00,100
and just have one minor cord.
577
00:50:00,135 --> 00:50:02,137
And I thought about it,
578
00:50:02,171 --> 00:50:04,794
and I said, "Well, there's
a way to approach that."
579
00:50:25,746 --> 00:50:28,680
♪ [scatting]
580
00:51:24,288 --> 00:51:25,737
No, no, no.
That's okay. That's okay.
581
00:51:42,478 --> 00:51:44,584
[Herbie]
If I were trying
to do a record
582
00:51:44,618 --> 00:51:49,036
just for the fans
that already buy my records,
583
00:51:49,071 --> 00:51:53,524
then I could just do
the regular jazz record.
584
00:51:53,558 --> 00:51:58,805
I'm looking to show
other sides of me
influenced by other people,
585
00:51:58,839 --> 00:52:01,256
by the environment,
by the times.
586
00:52:06,123 --> 00:52:09,091
♪ [computerized]
587
00:52:16,443 --> 00:52:17,789
[Brian]
One, nine, five.
588
00:52:39,639 --> 00:52:40,640
One, two...
589
00:52:47,198 --> 00:52:50,132
[Herbie] I've been around
science and technology
for a number of years.
590
00:52:50,167 --> 00:52:52,445
When I was a kid,when I was like five years old,
591
00:52:52,479 --> 00:52:54,585
even before I started
playing piano,
592
00:52:54,619 --> 00:52:57,588
I used to take apart watches
and put them back together,
593
00:52:57,622 --> 00:53:01,316
and I tried to
take apart my electric--
Lionel electric train
594
00:53:01,350 --> 00:53:03,214
and put it back together.
595
00:53:03,249 --> 00:53:05,699
Most of the time
they didn't work when
I put them back together,
596
00:53:05,734 --> 00:53:08,461
but I was always this
curious kind of kid.
597
00:53:08,495 --> 00:53:12,706
I was an engineering major
in college for my first
two years.
598
00:53:12,741 --> 00:53:14,501
♪
599
00:53:14,536 --> 00:53:16,054
One, two.
600
00:53:16,089 --> 00:53:19,057
Is that zero?
601
00:53:23,545 --> 00:53:26,686
You got minus two,
minus one, zero.
602
00:53:31,518 --> 00:53:33,244
One, two.
603
00:53:33,279 --> 00:53:36,627
[Herbie] Synthesizers
didn't come on the scene
till around the '70s,
604
00:53:36,661 --> 00:53:38,456
very late '60s.
605
00:53:38,491 --> 00:53:41,597
I was there, yeah.
606
00:53:41,632 --> 00:53:49,812
♪
607
00:53:49,847 --> 00:53:51,228
This is amazing.
608
00:53:51,262 --> 00:53:55,197
This is not just a piano.
It is a synthesizer.
609
00:53:55,232 --> 00:53:57,199
This instrument,
this keyboard,
610
00:53:57,234 --> 00:54:00,547
which works with this computer
here and this monitor here.
611
00:54:00,582 --> 00:54:02,480
All these things work together.
612
00:54:02,515 --> 00:54:06,519
And you can have so many other
different kinds of things
613
00:54:06,553 --> 00:54:08,141
that you can't do on a piano.
614
00:54:08,175 --> 00:54:11,282
For example,
I can play...
♪
615
00:54:11,317 --> 00:54:13,008
See how fun?
616
00:54:13,042 --> 00:54:15,528
I want you make laughter.
How about that?
617
00:54:15,562 --> 00:54:16,770
Play this note.
618
00:54:16,805 --> 00:54:17,978
[electronic laughter]
619
00:54:18,013 --> 00:54:19,532
[giggling]
620
00:54:19,566 --> 00:54:21,706
[Man]
Whoa! Whoa, whoa, whoa!
621
00:54:21,741 --> 00:54:23,467
[laughs]
622
00:54:23,501 --> 00:54:25,779
Say it! Say that!
Say it!
623
00:54:25,814 --> 00:54:28,782
[women]
♪ Doo doo wop ♪
624
00:54:28,817 --> 00:54:31,026
[laughs]
What?
625
00:54:31,060 --> 00:54:35,617
Herbie's exuberance
about technology and
his sense of adventurism,
626
00:54:35,651 --> 00:54:39,897
just new ways to create,
you know,
627
00:54:39,931 --> 00:54:44,004
going into new possibilities
is definitely contagious.
628
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:45,834
♪
629
00:54:45,868 --> 00:54:46,973
Yeah!
630
00:54:48,802 --> 00:54:51,460
[Herbie]
I was becoming
more and more frustrated
631
00:54:51,495 --> 00:54:53,669
with the music
that I was playing.
632
00:54:53,704 --> 00:54:56,120
All of a sudden, I started
to think about Sly Stone
633
00:54:56,154 --> 00:54:58,053
when I was into Sly Stone.
634
00:54:58,087 --> 00:54:59,330
And I started thinkin',
635
00:54:59,365 --> 00:55:01,953
"Boy, thank you for
letting me be myself again."
636
00:55:01,988 --> 00:55:05,302
That's the funkiest thing
I ever heard in my life."
637
00:55:05,336 --> 00:55:07,511
♪
638
00:55:07,545 --> 00:55:10,065
Would I like to play
something that's funky?
639
00:55:10,099 --> 00:55:11,446
The answer was yes.
640
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:12,550
♪
641
00:55:12,585 --> 00:55:14,241
That's just funky.
642
00:55:18,245 --> 00:55:21,490
- Damn.
- Imagine if you had this
during Headhunters.
643
00:55:21,525 --> 00:55:25,805
♪
644
00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:28,842
[Herbie]
The idea of fusion
was not a new concept.
645
00:55:28,877 --> 00:55:33,502
But using fusion
was rock and jazz
and I think a little funk.
646
00:55:33,537 --> 00:55:36,850
We started writing these
tunes and did this record
that we called Headhunters.
647
00:55:43,063 --> 00:55:46,377
I was coming really
from my Mwandishiside,
648
00:55:46,412 --> 00:55:50,312
from the stuff I did
back in the early '70s,
649
00:55:50,347 --> 00:55:52,970
the avant-garde area
that I worked in.
650
00:56:23,932 --> 00:56:25,485
Back in the early '80s,
651
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,799
I was at the right place
at the right time
with the right people.
652
00:56:28,833 --> 00:56:30,525
♪ [scratching]
653
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,501
I heard scratching
as kind of an ambient
kind of sound, you know,
654
00:56:41,536 --> 00:56:43,296
but in a rhythmic fashion.
655
00:56:43,330 --> 00:56:45,988
I said, "Yeah, I want to
do something with that."
656
00:56:56,136 --> 00:56:57,862
"Rockit"
was a great turning point.
657
00:56:57,897 --> 00:57:00,658
The origins of hip-hop
started in the late '70s.
658
00:57:00,693 --> 00:57:03,212
Herbie was certainly
one of the first,
if not thefirst
659
00:57:03,247 --> 00:57:06,423
jazz artist to implement
those elements.
660
00:57:12,221 --> 00:57:15,501
[Herbie]
I had no idea that anything
would happen with it.
661
00:57:15,535 --> 00:57:20,057
I remember one time somebody
told me they went to...
662
00:57:20,091 --> 00:57:21,714
a break-dance contest.
663
00:57:21,748 --> 00:57:23,060
♪
664
00:57:23,094 --> 00:57:24,544
There were 25 groups,
665
00:57:24,579 --> 00:57:27,547
and they could each choose
any piece of music
666
00:57:27,582 --> 00:57:29,653
they wanted to break to.
667
00:57:29,687 --> 00:57:31,965
24 of them chose "Rockit."
668
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,278
I said,
"I'm glad I wasn't there.
669
00:57:34,312 --> 00:57:37,799
I don't think I wanted
to hear that thing 24 times."
670
00:57:37,833 --> 00:57:39,628
♪
671
00:58:02,064 --> 00:58:04,101
There have been changes
in my music.
672
00:58:04,135 --> 00:58:07,207
I would say that my music
has gotten broader,
673
00:58:07,242 --> 00:58:09,313
and for me, it's like...
674
00:58:09,347 --> 00:58:14,214
expanding the colors
that I can choose from
675
00:58:14,249 --> 00:58:15,768
for expression.
676
00:58:15,802 --> 00:58:18,805
♪
677
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:33,786
♪ Long white arms
678
00:58:33,820 --> 00:58:37,375
♪ Losing their strength
and form ♪
679
00:58:37,410 --> 00:58:44,624
♪ Sixty-year man
on twenty-year-old skin ♪
680
00:58:46,281 --> 00:58:49,560
♪ Skeleton
681
00:58:49,595 --> 00:58:53,357
♪ Your eyes have lost
their warmth ♪
682
00:58:53,391 --> 00:59:00,467
♪ Look to your father
for some support ♪
683
00:59:01,986 --> 00:59:04,644
[Herbie]
I wanted to bring
something to Annie,
684
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:09,787
so I asked Paula Cole
if she had some things that
maybe I could show to Annie.
685
00:59:09,822 --> 00:59:14,240
And she told me
that Annie was like...
686
00:59:14,274 --> 00:59:16,794
probably themajor
influence on her
687
00:59:16,829 --> 00:59:18,693
musically and as a singer.
688
00:59:18,727 --> 00:59:20,487
Anyway, I sent
some things to Annie.
689
00:59:20,522 --> 00:59:23,180
One piece in particular
she really loved,
690
00:59:23,214 --> 00:59:25,182
which was called
"Hush Hush Hush."
691
00:59:25,216 --> 00:59:29,635
♪ Hush, hush, hush
692
00:59:29,669 --> 00:59:32,810
Beautiful.
It's beautiful.
693
00:59:32,845 --> 00:59:35,813
♪ Hush
No, just--
694
00:59:35,848 --> 00:59:37,435
'Cause I go like this--
695
00:59:37,470 --> 00:59:39,299
♪ Hush, hush, hush
696
00:59:39,334 --> 00:59:41,578
And then we get
your chord change.
697
00:59:41,612 --> 00:59:45,340
- ♪ Hush, hush, hush
- Right, yeah.
698
00:59:46,755 --> 00:59:48,274
Okay.
699
00:59:48,308 --> 00:59:51,104
♪ Cruel joke
700
00:59:51,139 --> 00:59:55,212
♪ You waited so long to show
701
00:59:55,246 --> 01:00:03,220
♪ The one that you wanted
wasn't a girl ♪
702
01:00:03,254 --> 01:00:05,809
What's this line,
"The one that you wanted
wasn't a girl"?
703
01:00:05,843 --> 01:00:07,396
You mean his father
wanted a girl.
704
01:00:07,431 --> 01:00:10,503
That why this line,
"Look to your father
for some support."
705
01:00:10,537 --> 01:00:12,781
That's the one
I never quite understood.
706
01:00:12,816 --> 01:00:16,198
♪ Peace, peace, peace
707
01:00:16,233 --> 01:00:22,929
♪ May you go in peace
708
01:00:24,759 --> 01:00:26,484
Hey, Herbie?
709
01:00:26,519 --> 01:00:27,865
Yeah, I'm here.
710
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:31,075
You know, I just had
an idea just to do...
711
01:00:31,110 --> 01:00:34,216
♪ Or maybe next time
712
01:00:34,251 --> 01:00:35,666
♪ [hums]
713
01:00:35,701 --> 01:00:38,704
♪ Wake up tomorrow
714
01:00:38,738 --> 01:00:40,395
But it can be
in the background.
715
01:00:40,429 --> 01:00:42,293
It doesn't have
to be too strong.
716
01:00:42,328 --> 01:00:44,641
I love it, I love it.
717
01:00:44,675 --> 01:00:45,676
Okay.
718
01:00:47,229 --> 01:00:50,025
♪ Or maybe next time
719
01:00:50,060 --> 01:00:54,961
♪ You'll be Henry the VIII
720
01:00:54,996 --> 01:00:57,654
♪ Wake up tomorrow
721
01:00:57,688 --> 01:01:01,209
♪ Alexander the Great
722
01:01:01,243 --> 01:01:02,693
You know, that's odd,
isn't it?
723
01:01:02,728 --> 01:01:06,732
The male personas
that where...
724
01:01:06,766 --> 01:01:10,563
you'll come back as
men-men, manly men.
725
01:01:10,597 --> 01:01:12,254
- Right.
- You know?
726
01:01:12,289 --> 01:01:14,947
Henry the VIII,
pretty manly man,
apparently.
727
01:01:14,981 --> 01:01:17,052
Alexander the Great,
maybe you--
728
01:01:17,087 --> 01:01:18,295
That's a funny little twist.
729
01:01:18,329 --> 01:01:21,505
♪ Hush, hush, hush
730
01:01:26,027 --> 01:01:30,410
♪ Hush, hush, hush
731
01:01:30,445 --> 01:01:32,619
I think the daughter
is realizing
732
01:01:32,654 --> 01:01:36,002
the father has this
profound disappointment
in his life,
733
01:01:36,037 --> 01:01:38,971
which he's in basic denial
734
01:01:39,005 --> 01:01:42,146
'cause he's going,
"Hush. I'm the dad.
Hush. No more."
735
01:01:42,181 --> 01:01:43,769
- Oh!
- That's how I see it.
736
01:01:45,391 --> 01:01:48,014
- That makes the most sense.
- Come on, Herbie, listen.
737
01:01:48,049 --> 01:01:51,500
As the our leader,
put that call in.
738
01:01:51,535 --> 01:01:55,608
I actually have Herbie here,
and he wants to ask you
a question
739
01:01:55,642 --> 01:01:58,024
if it's not
a bad time for you.
740
01:01:58,059 --> 01:02:00,751
Okay. Hold on.
741
01:02:00,786 --> 01:02:03,271
Paula.
742
01:02:03,305 --> 01:02:05,998
All right.
How are you?
743
01:02:06,032 --> 01:02:07,654
Great.
744
01:02:07,689 --> 01:02:11,106
We've been doing
"Hush Hush Hush" with Annie.
745
01:02:11,141 --> 01:02:12,936
Everybody's been speculating
746
01:02:12,970 --> 01:02:18,769
as to what the true meaning
of the song is.
747
01:02:18,804 --> 01:02:20,978
How many interpretations
have we--
748
01:02:21,013 --> 01:02:23,118
Six, seven, eight.
749
01:02:23,153 --> 01:02:26,743
Six, seven or eight
different interpretations.
750
01:02:26,777 --> 01:02:29,262
And we wanted to know
for sure. Right.
751
01:02:29,297 --> 01:02:31,920
Yeah, here's Annie.
752
01:02:31,955 --> 01:02:33,542
Hi, Paula.
753
01:02:33,577 --> 01:02:36,028
[woman]
That phone call was like
a lighting bolt in my life.
754
01:02:36,062 --> 01:02:37,823
I'll always remember
that phone call.
755
01:02:37,857 --> 01:02:39,307
I love them both so much,
756
01:02:39,341 --> 01:02:41,999
and when I spoke
to Annie on the phone,
757
01:02:42,034 --> 01:02:46,797
she said, "Yeah, I guess
you tried to meet me at
one of my shows in Australia."
758
01:02:46,832 --> 01:02:48,661
I said,
"Annie, you don't understand.
759
01:02:48,695 --> 01:02:50,628
I've been
to every show of yours,
760
01:02:50,663 --> 01:02:53,908
starting from 1983,
the Sweet Dreams Tour."
761
01:02:53,942 --> 01:02:57,118
Oh, it's such
a wonderful song.
762
01:02:57,152 --> 01:02:59,776
I love the song.
It's very haunting.
763
01:02:59,810 --> 01:03:02,675
We've been all so intrigued
by it 'cause we were--
764
01:03:02,709 --> 01:03:04,401
especially me--
765
01:03:04,435 --> 01:03:08,198
desperate to know exactly
what the story is behind it.
766
01:03:08,232 --> 01:03:10,200
We're just trying
to piece it together.
767
01:03:10,234 --> 01:03:11,926
That's why I was
saying all along,
768
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,583
"Herbie, you've got call her
and find out really
what this is about."
769
01:03:14,618 --> 01:03:17,794
♪ Open your eyes
770
01:03:17,828 --> 01:03:22,350
♪ In your new life again
771
01:03:22,384 --> 01:03:25,353
♪ Oh, maybe next time
772
01:03:25,387 --> 01:03:30,668
♪ You'll be given a chance
773
01:03:30,703 --> 01:03:32,636
[Paula]
Lyrically,
it's complicated,
774
01:03:32,670 --> 01:03:34,051
but chorally,
it's different.
775
01:03:34,086 --> 01:03:37,123
It's not the normal,
especially at the end.
776
01:03:37,158 --> 01:03:40,333
It goes into this cycle
of major seven chords
777
01:03:40,368 --> 01:03:42,370
that almost feels like--
778
01:03:42,404 --> 01:03:44,682
I mean, the song,
as it's revealed,
779
01:03:44,717 --> 01:03:47,513
is about a young man
dying of AIDS.
780
01:03:47,547 --> 01:03:49,653
It's about a young man
dying of AIDS.
781
01:03:49,687 --> 01:03:51,413
That's what it is.
782
01:03:51,448 --> 01:03:53,657
We never got that.
Oh, God.
783
01:03:53,691 --> 01:03:56,039
And her--
784
01:03:56,073 --> 01:03:58,075
Oh, it's about somebody
that you really knew.
785
01:03:58,110 --> 01:04:02,183
I wanted to write about
that because a friend
of mine died from AIDS,
786
01:04:02,217 --> 01:04:05,186
but it's such a heavy,
big subject,
787
01:04:05,220 --> 01:04:07,774
and how do you sing
about such a thing
788
01:04:07,809 --> 01:04:12,779
without it becoming
morose or banal?
789
01:04:12,814 --> 01:04:17,163
I had to do it in a way
that was... tender.
790
01:04:23,514 --> 01:04:27,380
[Herbie]
His relationship with
his father was never right.
791
01:04:27,415 --> 01:04:29,866
Finally, as he's dying,
792
01:04:29,900 --> 01:04:35,285
they're stumbling through
trying to finally just,
793
01:04:35,319 --> 01:04:36,596
"Come on, now."
794
01:04:36,631 --> 01:04:39,185
Actually, now that
we know what it is,
795
01:04:39,220 --> 01:04:41,394
it does give it
a hell of an anchor,
doesn't it?
796
01:04:41,429 --> 01:04:44,018
- Oh, yeah.
- Hell of a context.
797
01:04:44,052 --> 01:04:47,193
♪ All your life
798
01:04:47,228 --> 01:04:50,852
♪ You kept it hidden inside
799
01:04:50,887 --> 01:04:53,475
♪ Now when you step
800
01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:55,961
♪ You stumble
801
01:04:55,995 --> 01:04:59,033
♪ You die
802
01:05:00,241 --> 01:05:03,175
♪ Hush, hush, hush
803
01:05:03,209 --> 01:05:07,662
♪ Says your Daddy's touch
804
01:05:07,696 --> 01:05:15,601
♪ Hush, hush, hush
805
01:05:15,635 --> 01:05:18,397
♪ Hush, hush, hush
806
01:05:22,988 --> 01:05:26,198
♪ Hush, hush, hush
807
01:05:30,409 --> 01:05:34,309
♪ Hush, hush, hush
808
01:05:34,344 --> 01:05:36,449
This is a record
without borders.
809
01:05:36,484 --> 01:05:41,489
It'll be like a tapestry
that's woven with many colors.
810
01:05:41,523 --> 01:05:43,422
♪ [rock guitar]
811
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:08,378
- How you doing, Jonny?
- Really glad to meet you.
812
01:06:08,412 --> 01:06:12,865
Yeah, great pleasure, man.
Thanks for makin' it
all happen.
813
01:06:12,899 --> 01:06:17,939
♪
814
01:06:17,974 --> 01:06:21,978
♪ I was a sailor
I was lost at sea ♪
815
01:06:22,012 --> 01:06:26,706
♪ Under the waves
before love rescued me ♪
816
01:06:26,741 --> 01:06:30,676
♪ I was a fighter
I could turn on a thread ♪
817
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:35,129
♪ Now I stand accused
of the things I've said ♪
818
01:06:35,163 --> 01:06:39,650
♪ When love comes to town
I'm gonna jump that train ♪
819
01:06:39,685 --> 01:06:44,897
♪ When love comes to town
I'm gonna catch that flame ♪
820
01:06:44,931 --> 01:06:48,694
♪ Maybe I was wrong
to ever let you down ♪
821
01:06:48,728 --> 01:06:52,111
♪ But I did what I did
822
01:06:52,146 --> 01:06:55,356
♪ Before love came to town
823
01:06:57,979 --> 01:07:01,327
- ♪ Ooh, yeah
- ♪ Yes, when love came down
824
01:07:01,362 --> 01:07:04,744
I had an idea. I don't know
if this'll work or not,
825
01:07:04,779 --> 01:07:08,955
but when we do
the vocal thing,
826
01:07:08,990 --> 01:07:12,476
what if the kit drums
were more like a...
827
01:07:12,511 --> 01:07:16,135
[imitates drum]
828
01:07:16,170 --> 01:07:18,551
It would be...
829
01:07:18,586 --> 01:07:21,727
It would give it
another flavor on top of it.
I'd have to see how it is.
830
01:07:24,488 --> 01:07:26,628
♪ [humming]
831
01:07:36,776 --> 01:07:42,506
♪ I was there
when they crucified my Lord ♪
832
01:07:42,541 --> 01:07:46,476
♪ I held the scabbard when
the soldier drew his sword ♪
833
01:07:46,510 --> 01:07:50,342
♪ I threw the dice when--
834
01:07:50,376 --> 01:07:51,515
[coughs]
835
01:07:51,550 --> 01:07:53,621
- [music stops]
- Sorry.
836
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:01,353
♪ I threw the dice when they
pierced his side, but I... ♪
837
01:08:01,387 --> 01:08:03,320
All right, yeah.
Let's do that.
838
01:08:03,355 --> 01:08:04,528
♪ Pierced his side
839
01:08:04,563 --> 01:08:07,876
♪ But I seen love conquer the
840
01:08:07,911 --> 01:08:09,878
- ♪ Great divide
- Okay. All right.
841
01:08:09,913 --> 01:08:12,640
- Right on. That's great.
- Okay, let me try.
842
01:08:12,674 --> 01:08:17,162
- I'm gonna forget
by the time I get in there.
- No, you won't. I got ya.
843
01:08:17,196 --> 01:08:21,338
♪ I threw the dice
when they pierced his side ♪
844
01:08:21,373 --> 01:08:26,516
♪ But I seen love conquer
the great divide ♪
845
01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:30,692
♪ When love comes to town
I'm gonna face that train ♪
846
01:08:30,727 --> 01:08:35,525
♪ When love comes to town
I'm gonna catch that flame ♪
847
01:08:35,559 --> 01:08:38,459
♪
848
01:08:38,493 --> 01:08:39,701
- Right?
- Yeah.
849
01:08:39,736 --> 01:08:41,289
♪
850
01:08:41,324 --> 01:08:43,188
♪ [humming]
851
01:09:29,406 --> 01:09:33,099
[all laughing]
852
01:09:33,134 --> 01:09:35,723
That was sick right there.
853
01:09:46,872 --> 01:09:50,531
[Herbie]
I was in Paris in '85.
I was doing 'Round Midnight.
854
01:09:52,464 --> 01:09:56,709
I would go at night.
I'd go down to the theater
to hear Sting.
855
01:09:56,744 --> 01:09:59,160
I sat in with him
about three times.
856
01:09:59,195 --> 01:10:03,785
All the models would come
to the theater to see Sting.
857
01:10:03,820 --> 01:10:08,031
Every night it was like
fine chicks everywhere.
858
01:10:08,065 --> 01:10:10,620
- Hi. How are you?
- I'm fine. Nice to meet
the other side.
859
01:10:10,654 --> 01:10:13,243
Good. Oh, hey, Donna.
How are you?
860
01:10:13,278 --> 01:10:17,937
Oh, hi. Pearl? Pleasure.
861
01:10:17,972 --> 01:10:19,560
- Hi.
- Hey, how you doin'?
862
01:10:19,594 --> 01:10:21,665
- Nice to see you.
- I'm so glad you're here.
863
01:10:21,700 --> 01:10:24,979
- Happy birthday.
- I don't want to play
that shit.
864
01:10:25,013 --> 01:10:26,981
- When was it?
- What?
865
01:10:27,015 --> 01:10:29,570
My birthday was
last Saturday.
866
01:10:29,604 --> 01:10:32,297
- A belated happy birthday.
- Thank you, everybody.
867
01:10:32,331 --> 01:10:35,127
- So how old are you now?
- I'm 53.
868
01:10:35,161 --> 01:10:38,130
- 53? I figured around--
- Same age as you.
869
01:10:38,164 --> 01:10:39,994
Yeah, right.
870
01:10:40,028 --> 01:10:43,411
[Herbie]
When Sting suggested
"Sister Moon,"
871
01:10:43,446 --> 01:10:48,382
at first I started to think,
you know,
872
01:10:48,416 --> 01:10:51,661
maybe we should writesomething specifically for this.
873
01:10:51,695 --> 01:10:55,768
Something new. But...
874
01:10:55,803 --> 01:11:00,325
Then I started to think,
well, maybe we can come up
with another way to do it.
875
01:11:00,359 --> 01:11:03,120
So I called Lionel Loueke,
876
01:11:03,155 --> 01:11:07,884
who is an amazing guitar playerfrom Benin, West Africa.
877
01:11:07,918 --> 01:11:10,611
He was a member
of the student band
878
01:11:10,645 --> 01:11:13,752
for the Thelonious Monk
Institute of Jazz.
879
01:11:13,786 --> 01:11:17,411
I called him and asked him,
"You know, do you think...
880
01:11:19,551 --> 01:11:24,901
you could come up with
some kind of arrangement idea
881
01:11:24,935 --> 01:11:29,112
that utilizes some of
the stuff from Africa
882
01:11:29,146 --> 01:11:30,803
with the tune
"Sister Moon"?
883
01:11:30,838 --> 01:11:34,428
So he made this
arrangement, which--
884
01:11:34,462 --> 01:11:36,326
I looked at it, but I
haven't really played it.
885
01:11:36,361 --> 01:11:38,224
But I looked at some
of the chords and stuff.
886
01:11:38,259 --> 01:11:39,916
- This is kind of cool.
- Cool.
887
01:11:39,950 --> 01:11:43,885
[Herbie]
Because of the particular
culture that he comes from
888
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,577
in Benin, West Africa,
889
01:11:45,611 --> 01:11:49,857
there's some elementsthat he can lend to the music...
890
01:11:49,891 --> 01:11:52,135
♪
891
01:11:52,169 --> 01:11:55,449
that give it
another kind of twist.
892
01:12:13,984 --> 01:12:16,435
Yeah.
893
01:12:16,470 --> 01:12:20,405
Yeah! That had some--
That was cool, man.
894
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,303
I'll set up Lionel.
895
01:12:22,338 --> 01:12:24,754
I didn't know what Lionel
was going to come up with.
896
01:12:24,788 --> 01:12:27,343
♪ [humming]
897
01:12:31,243 --> 01:12:33,866
Yeah. You got to get
that push like that.
898
01:12:41,564 --> 01:12:43,462
It's cool.
899
01:12:43,497 --> 01:12:45,291
[Lionel]
It's a lot about the rhythm.
900
01:12:45,326 --> 01:12:47,949
It's a lot about
the spirit too.
901
01:12:47,984 --> 01:12:50,607
The way you--
902
01:12:50,642 --> 01:12:55,198
The same phrase can be played
from like ten musicians,
903
01:12:55,232 --> 01:12:57,511
and they all will
play differently.
904
01:12:57,545 --> 01:13:01,929
Like the musicians from Africa,from America, from Europe,
905
01:13:01,963 --> 01:13:05,622
they all gonna play differentbecause from where you grow up,
906
01:13:05,657 --> 01:13:09,246
you have that background
inside of you naturally.
907
01:13:24,538 --> 01:13:26,885
It overlaps
stuff we know,
908
01:13:26,919 --> 01:13:29,025
but it's got
this other stuff--
909
01:13:29,059 --> 01:13:31,614
He cements it
with his hand.
910
01:13:40,623 --> 01:13:43,315
♪ Sister Moon
911
01:14:08,409 --> 01:14:12,137
♪ Ah
912
01:14:12,171 --> 01:14:15,174
[scatting]
913
01:14:32,468 --> 01:14:34,746
That's right, that's right.
914
01:14:34,780 --> 01:14:38,612
- Say, what's the number about?- It can change.
915
01:14:38,646 --> 01:14:41,925
[Herbie]
Something that
took us "pros"
916
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,722
a while to really kind of...
917
01:14:45,757 --> 01:14:48,898
grasp the heart of it,
you know.
918
01:14:48,932 --> 01:14:50,140
It wasn't--
919
01:14:50,175 --> 01:14:54,420
Yes, we could play it,
but to really, like, own it,
920
01:14:54,455 --> 01:14:55,525
it took awhile.
921
01:14:57,458 --> 01:14:59,391
[Herbie]
I'm sorry.
I keep screwing it up.
922
01:14:59,425 --> 01:15:01,635
You got to pay attention.
923
01:15:01,669 --> 01:15:03,188
Yeah, yeah.
924
01:15:04,776 --> 01:15:08,227
[Sting]
I tried to do a riff here.
I couldn't really get it.
925
01:15:08,262 --> 01:15:12,093
You saw how long it took us
to find the meter.
926
01:15:12,128 --> 01:15:14,682
- Oh, here, here.
- 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
927
01:15:14,717 --> 01:15:15,856
♪
928
01:15:15,890 --> 01:15:19,376
♪ Lying in
929
01:15:19,411 --> 01:15:22,759
♪ a mother's arms
930
01:15:22,794 --> 01:15:26,073
♪ A primal root
931
01:15:26,107 --> 01:15:29,870
♪ Of a woman's charms
932
01:15:29,904 --> 01:15:33,080
♪ I'm a stranger to the sun
933
01:15:33,114 --> 01:15:37,153
♪ My eyes are too weak
934
01:15:37,187 --> 01:15:40,156
♪ How cold is a heart
935
01:15:40,190 --> 01:15:43,711
♪ When it's warmth
that it seeks ♪
936
01:15:43,746 --> 01:15:46,196
♪ You watch every night
937
01:15:46,231 --> 01:15:49,165
♪ You don't care what I do
938
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:54,688
♪ I'd go out of my mind
939
01:15:56,137 --> 01:16:00,866
♪ I'd go out of my mind
but for you ♪
940
01:16:00,901 --> 01:16:02,799
[clapping]
941
01:16:04,490 --> 01:16:08,943
[Lionel]
One of my dreams
was to be in America.
942
01:16:08,978 --> 01:16:13,741
And one of my highest dreams
was to play with the best.
943
01:16:13,776 --> 01:16:16,226
You know, Herbie, Wayne.
944
01:16:16,261 --> 01:16:20,955
And you know, it's like,
for me, I'm living my dream.
945
01:16:20,990 --> 01:16:22,163
[Herbie]
He's really talented.
946
01:16:22,198 --> 01:16:24,994
I want him to get
everything he deserves
947
01:16:25,028 --> 01:16:27,168
'cause he's
a sweetheart of a guy.
948
01:16:27,203 --> 01:16:30,171
That's the kind of people
we want to be big stars.
949
01:16:30,206 --> 01:16:31,966
I'm sick of the assholes.
950
01:16:33,554 --> 01:16:38,697
♪ My mistress' eyes are
nothing like the sun ♪
951
01:16:40,354 --> 01:16:46,049
♪ My hunger for her explains
everything I've done ♪
952
01:16:46,084 --> 01:16:49,466
♪ To howl at the moon
953
01:16:49,501 --> 01:16:52,366
♪ The whole night through
954
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:58,027
♪ And they really don't care
955
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:07,243
♪ I'd go out of my mind
956
01:17:09,555 --> 01:17:15,285
♪ I'd go out of my mind
but for you ♪
957
01:17:20,049 --> 01:17:21,395
I didn't know he was that bad.
958
01:17:21,429 --> 01:17:23,017
I didn't know
he was that happening.
959
01:17:23,052 --> 01:17:26,158
I mean, I knew
he can sing, but...
960
01:17:26,193 --> 01:17:29,368
he was doing a lot of stuff
I never heard him do.
961
01:17:33,096 --> 01:17:36,272
You were killing it.
I never heard you
sing like that.
962
01:17:36,306 --> 01:17:39,309
- Me, neither.
- I mean, you--
963
01:18:37,713 --> 01:18:43,995
♪ My mistress' eyes are
nothing like the sun ♪
964
01:18:44,029 --> 01:18:49,759
♪ My hunger for her explains
everything I've done ♪
965
01:18:49,794 --> 01:18:53,107
♪ To howl at the moon
966
01:18:53,142 --> 01:18:55,800
♪ The whole night through
967
01:18:55,834 --> 01:19:02,979
♪ And they really don't care
968
01:19:06,534 --> 01:19:10,193
♪ I'd go out of my mind
969
01:19:13,231 --> 01:19:14,888
♪ But for you
970
01:19:26,071 --> 01:19:29,454
[chanting]
971
01:19:32,491 --> 01:19:35,529
[Herbie]
It really took
my practice of Buddhism
972
01:19:35,563 --> 01:19:37,565
to help me to realize
973
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:42,363
that those lessons that were
taught to me about music,
974
01:19:42,398 --> 01:19:45,608
these lessons are
really applied to life.
975
01:19:45,642 --> 01:19:49,854
I mean, isn't it
a human being's highest goal
976
01:19:49,888 --> 01:19:53,340
to be able to take
whatever happens,
977
01:19:53,374 --> 01:19:55,860
whether it's feast or famine,
978
01:19:55,894 --> 01:19:59,725
whether it's pleasant things
or unpleasant things,
979
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:04,558
to take those things
and somehow turn them
into something of value?
980
01:20:12,704 --> 01:20:13,187
♪ [ethereal]
981
01:20:13,222 --> 01:20:16,777
♪ [ethereal]
982
01:20:46,945 --> 01:20:52,399
[Herbie]
I used to have the opinion
that I am a musician.
983
01:20:52,433 --> 01:20:56,023
I used to think that.
I don't think that anymore
984
01:20:56,058 --> 01:20:57,714
because I realize,
985
01:20:57,749 --> 01:21:00,856
because of this practice,
986
01:21:00,890 --> 01:21:06,447
that I am a human being first.
987
01:21:11,314 --> 01:21:13,730
Being a musician
is something that I do.
988
01:21:13,765 --> 01:21:16,319
It's not something that I am.
989
01:21:16,354 --> 01:21:19,426
I'm much more interested
in improving my life
990
01:21:19,460 --> 01:21:23,602
and my life as
a servant of humanity.
991
01:21:26,226 --> 01:21:29,022
And I realize also
992
01:21:29,056 --> 01:21:32,680
that that's the purpose
of my music,
993
01:21:32,715 --> 01:21:34,234
is to serve humanity.
994
01:21:36,719 --> 01:21:39,515
[woman]
What is your purpose
for coming to Hiroshima?
995
01:21:39,549 --> 01:21:44,727
We're hoping to throw as large
a stone as we possibly can
996
01:21:44,761 --> 01:21:47,281
into the ocean of ideas
997
01:21:47,316 --> 01:21:51,596
to draw attention
to the importance
998
01:21:51,630 --> 01:21:55,841
of the establishment
of a lasting peace.
999
01:22:05,921 --> 01:22:07,715
[shouting]
1000
01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:11,478
[applause]
1001
01:22:11,512 --> 01:22:14,136
[Japanese announcer]
1002
01:22:34,639 --> 01:22:39,161
♪
1003
01:23:25,655 --> 01:23:28,382
[Herbie]
For years, music--
1004
01:23:28,417 --> 01:23:31,006
in particular,
jazz performers--
1005
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,629
have been
cultural ambassadors.
1006
01:23:33,663 --> 01:23:36,114
I mean, you know,
1007
01:23:36,149 --> 01:23:39,117
Duke Ellington
and Dizzy Gillespie
1008
01:23:39,152 --> 01:23:42,776
have played all over the planetand have written pieces
1009
01:23:42,810 --> 01:23:48,057
inspired by
the different cultures
that they've been exposed to.
1010
01:24:23,058 --> 01:24:24,990
[Herbie]
So here we are, Americans,
1011
01:24:25,025 --> 01:24:29,754
members of the country that
did this horrible, tragic act.
1012
01:24:29,788 --> 01:24:33,620
It was our way to represent
1013
01:24:33,654 --> 01:24:36,795
the American spirit
of sorrow and apology.
1014
01:24:56,539 --> 01:24:58,472
Whew.
1015
01:24:58,507 --> 01:25:01,786
The world should see
this museum.
1016
01:25:01,820 --> 01:25:06,584
It's so necessary
to constantly be reminded
1017
01:25:06,618 --> 01:25:09,794
of the kind of results
1018
01:25:09,828 --> 01:25:15,593
that are a product of
man's inhumanity toward man.
1019
01:25:20,529 --> 01:25:23,877
This is the replica
of the actual bomb.
It's call the Fat Man.
1020
01:25:31,781 --> 01:25:33,576
[Wayne]
And when it's too late,
1021
01:25:33,611 --> 01:25:35,854
we find out about
the beauty of something
that we destroyed.
1022
01:25:41,653 --> 01:25:45,485
[Herbie]
We must ensure that
the lives who were lost,
1023
01:25:45,519 --> 01:25:49,420
their suffering
was not in vain
1024
01:25:49,454 --> 01:25:54,425
for the future and survival
of those who inhabit
the earth.
1025
01:26:11,476 --> 01:26:14,445
Through my music,
I've been able to realize
1026
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:17,517
that there isn't just
one way of looking at this,
1027
01:26:17,551 --> 01:26:23,005
or there isn't just
one way to look at
1028
01:26:23,039 --> 01:26:25,387
the difficulties
we have in life.
1029
01:26:25,421 --> 01:26:28,355
There's an infinite number
of ways to look at things.
1030
01:26:47,650 --> 01:26:51,896
Sometimes we have to createthat vision or that possibility.
1031
01:26:51,930 --> 01:26:56,141
But the human spirit has the
ability to be able to do that.
1032
01:27:01,768 --> 01:27:04,288
[applause]
1033
01:27:14,850 --> 01:27:17,680
♪
1034
01:29:21,804 --> 01:29:24,704
When you said Jew's harp,
first I thought,
1035
01:29:24,738 --> 01:29:27,016
"Okay, maybe she's
screwing around."
1036
01:29:27,051 --> 01:29:30,192
But you said, "No, I am
really good at Jew's harp."
1037
01:29:30,226 --> 01:29:32,815
Then something told me,
1038
01:29:32,850 --> 01:29:34,921
"I wonder if she's
telling the truth."
1039
01:29:34,955 --> 01:29:36,612
♪
1040
01:29:38,580 --> 01:29:40,478
♪
1041
01:30:46,095 --> 01:30:49,064
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.- I like it when you conduct me.
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