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(smoke whooshes)
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(boat motor runs and waves splash)
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(unsettling music)
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- We we will decide who
comes to this country
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and the circumstances in which they come.
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(crowd applauds)
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We just can't continue
sending a signal to the rest
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of the world that this is a
nation of easy destination.
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(unsettling music)
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- This House today can send a
very clear message to asylum
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seekers who are contemplating
risking a voyage at sea
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and that message very
clearly is don't risk it,
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don't give your money to a people smuggler
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because you will not be better off.
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- I make absolutely no apology whatsoever
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for taking a hard line on
illegal immigration to Australia.
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- What the Australian people
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elected us to stop the boats.
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This is a national emergency,
we've got to treat as such.
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- This is a border security operation.
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Our resolve to implement
what we have promised
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the Australian people to
stop the boats is absolute.
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(unsettling music)
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(camera rattles)
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- [Social Worker] Thank you.
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- [Guard] You're welcome, enjoy your day.
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- [Social Worker] You too.
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- [Guard #2] How are you this morning?
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- [Social Worker] How are you?
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- [Guard # 2] Good, how are you?
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- [Social Worker] Good thank you.
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(rock crunches)
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I knew it was a detention centre.
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I didn't know there'd
be so many high fences,
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that people would be so
restricted in their movement,
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that they would live in tents,
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that people have already been
there for over 400, 500 days.
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I didn't know there'd be
so many security personnel.
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It feels militarised.
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(unsettling music)
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- A friend of mine called me and told me,
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"hey they're hiring people to go to Nauru,
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you should go you're
interested in asylum seekers."
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And I thought, yeah, yeah I guess I am,
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so she gave me this number
and she got the number off
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of Facebook Ad, believe
it or not, and I called
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this number and said
I'd like to go to Nauru,
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and the woman said: "sure
when can you leave?"
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- I was a student at
Macquarie uni in Sydney
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and I joined the Salvation
Army Society on Facebook,
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and they posted an add about going to work
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in Nauru and at the time they made it
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sound like really nice out there.
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They made it sound like
it was just a two week
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kind of holiday, you could
bring your friends along.
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Yeah I called the number that
was listed on the website
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and two to three days later I was
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in Nauru with two of my
best friends from school.
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My friend that came with, he
was a manager at McDonald's
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and my other friend
packed boxes in a factory.
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- A wide range of people
were hired and they were
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18 year olds, university
students, retirees,
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and the only thing that we
had in common was that none
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of us had experience working
with refugees before.
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(unsettling music)
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I can't stress enough the remoteness
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of the location of Nauru.
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It's in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
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It's an island of 10,000 people.
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It takes 20 minutes to
drive around the island.
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It's extremely hot.
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(unsettling uptempo music)
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You immediately notice
how poor the island is.
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Then the Australian government
comes to the Nauru government
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and says, we're gonna offer
you several billion dollars
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over the next however many years
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to house a few thousand asylum seekers.
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For a failing economy
like Nauru, I can imagine
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it would seem like a very good option.
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(rock crunches)
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On my first day we had
moved up to the camp.
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The Salvation Army gave
us a very small briefing
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and said go out and help
them and be their friends.
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- The lady that took
us in there, she said:
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"okay now, we want you to get in pairs.
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I'll be back in a couple of hours,
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go and mingle", and then she just left.
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(unsettling music)
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- I went up to a group
of men who were sitting
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under the only tree in the whole centre.
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I asked them how they
were and they were like,
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they said to me: "why are you
here and why are we here?"
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- How long will we be here for?
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And we've been given as
instructions is go out
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and help the men, and it's at that point
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that I realised what the
hell am I doing here.
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(unsettling music)
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- [Social Worker] A lot of
people were really confused
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when they first arrived in Nauru.
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I remember one particular intake,
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a lot of the men were
saying to me: "where are we,
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I thought this was part of Australia?"
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So it was up to us to tell them that no,
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you're not in Australia, you're in Nauru.
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- One of my most vivid
memories was a sign being
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on the wall saying that staff would have
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to be trained how to
use a Hoffman's knife.
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When I asked what a Hoffman's
knife was it was the knife
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used to cut people down
when they're found hanging.
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Quite quickly I started to
realise that I had sent myself
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to a place which I had
never would have gone.
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- I don't think anybody wakes
up and says, I've decided
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that I decided that I wanna
run a detention centre.
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I grew up on Sydney's North Shore,
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fairly comfortable
upbringing, upper middle-class
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white guy in a place with
very few migrants at all.
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And frankly didn't care about immigration,
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didn't care about asylum seekers,
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it wasn't something that
I confronted in my life
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and didn't feel it was something
I was passionate about.
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It wasn't something that
my friends talked about,
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I just really didn't care,
it just didn't feature.
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(rock crunches)
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I suppose for me, my story
is about coming across
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this policy issue completely
naive to the problems.
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Initially it was about looking
after people in detention
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and shifted to a policy of deterrence.
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So you go from looking after
people to saying if you
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come here we're gonna
make it worse for you
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than if you stayed where you came from.
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- The idea was to say we don't you
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and your families coming
to Australia by boat
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and so we're gonna make this
place as horrible as possible
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to convince you to tell the people back
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in your countries not to come by boat.
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What that means for the people in offshore
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detention centres is
that they're stuck there
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with no idea of what will happen to them.
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(foreboding music)
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- The threat of asylum
seekers has been blown up
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to create a huge political storm around
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the issue, which then needs an answer,
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and the answer is to
stop the boats coming.
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And you'd be naive to think
that the hard-line policies
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of the Australian government
have not done that.
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They've attacked the
people smuggler's business
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model, as they call it, successfully.
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They've stopped the boats successfully,
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but there is a human cost to that
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and we see it in Indonesia, we see it
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on Manus Island, we see it on Nauru.
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(unsettling music)
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(motorbikes revving)
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I've been in Indonesia
for almost three years.
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Probably the most common story I write is
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on refugees and asylum seekers trying
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to find a way through
Indonesia to Australia.
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Now the boats have
stopped, the way is closed,
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really it's about people who are stoppered
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here and what their life is like.
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(unsettling music)
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(muted conversations)
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They're unable to work,
if they have children,
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the children cannot go to school.
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Everything that they want costs
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them money that they're unable to earn.
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They're stuck in limbo here.
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(keys pound)
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(unsettling music)
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(bread slams)
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(bread slams)
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- Okay thank you and again
come back here shopping.
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(motorbikes rev)
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(traditional Afghan music)
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(boat motor runs)
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- Today the Prime Minister
of Papua New Guinea
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and I are announcing a major initiative
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to combat the scourge of people smuggling.
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From now on any asylum seeker
who arrives in Australia
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by boat will have no chance of being
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settled in Australia as refugees.
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If they are found to be genuine refugees
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they will be resettled
in Papau New Guinea.
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Australia will continue its
cooperative arrangements
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on people smuggling with
the Republic of Nauru
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and looks forward to furthering
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those arrangements in the future.
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(ominous music)
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(unsettling music)
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(water splashes)
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(unsettling music)
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- And there was daily, plane
loads of detainees coming in.
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Manus was to become a camp for single men.
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G4S management approached
me to go up there
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in a training role to train expat staff
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in the position of Safety
and Security Officer.
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I'd spent eight or nine years
as a prison officer, the only
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people that I had experience
with was the criminal world.
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It was not what I thought
a detention camp wold be,
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one of the worst for accommodation,
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a World War II hut made of
tin on a concrete floor,
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122 double bunks in this shed.
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Manus Island is tropical and those guys
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were housed in it, a tin shed.
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It was disgusting. The
odour was disgusting.
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I just couldn't believe
what I was looking at.
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It was amazing.
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- Manus looked like a jail to me.
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The men were padlocked in behind gates.
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There was faeces, open
faeces on the ground.
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Men didn't have enough
clothes. Men didn't have shoes.
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They didn't have enough drinking water.
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There was malaria. There was
sickness, disease, infection.
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- Some of the guys were very
happy to see new staff arrive,
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then it struck me they
were happy to see new faces
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because of the boredom
that they were leaving.
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Once we'd been there for a number of weeks
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then they started to slip back into what
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I now know as their own lifestyle,
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they're just slant-shoulders,
just broken men.
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These guys had no future and that's
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what their faces showed to me.
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- The message is simple
if you come to Australia
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illegally by boat there is no way
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you will ever make Australia home.
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- The act of seeking asylum
is not illegal because it's
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a right, it's a right that arises under
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the Universal Declaration of Human Rights,
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and it's also a right
that arises under a range
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of international human rights treaties
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such as the Refugee's Convention.
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- The Refugee Convention
is one of the most humane
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international understandings
on the planet.
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It's the world's apology for what was done
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to the Jewish people in the 1930s
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for the doors closed in the faces
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of the Jewish people trying
to feel the Holocaust.
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It was an understanding between countries
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that when people were seeking
protection from persecution
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that they could cross a border,
they could seek protection
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and Australia signed up to it.
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Australia said look
yes, we decide who comes
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into this country and we decide by signing
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this convention that we'll
let refugees come here,
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and we'll let 'em come as
they come everywhere else
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in the world, we'll let 'em come by sea.
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(unsettling music)
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(rock crunches)
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- [Social Worker] Hey there.
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(fan whirs)
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- It's quite obvious that the camps
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are set up to send people home.
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I know that it's not
supposed to be a holiday,
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but it took about six weeks, I think,
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for them to start to degrade mentally.
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(bag closes)
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- The whole concept of
indefinite detention
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is this idea that there is no progress.
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If you a criminal in Australia,
you say, you've committed
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a crime, your punishment
is two years in jail.
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For these men, they don't know
what crime they've committed.
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Under the Refugee Convention
they've got every right
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to come here and ask for protection,
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at least have their stories heard.
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When you've got this two year sentence
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as a prisoner you can't
count down the days;
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for these men, they didn't have that.
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Day two is the same as day five,
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which is the same as day a hundred,
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except by day a hundred
you've spent 100 days
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in this camp with no idea
of if you're progressing
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any closer to your future goal.
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(bag rustles)
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(fan whirs)
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- I never really had seen daily
self-harm, up to four a day.
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There was no hope to give them.
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I'd be lying if I told them I knew
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and I could make their life
better 'cause I couldn't.
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I saw men cut their
stomach open with glass.
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One man take a fluorescent light tube
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and beat himself across
the head and stab himself,
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men suffocating themselves, men stitching
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their lips, one man stitched his eyelid.
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- A lot of cutting, sometimes superficial,
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sometimes deeper, swallowing Rid,
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swallowing washing powder,
swallowing razor blades,
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people trying to hang themselves
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with rope, fan cords, knitting wool.
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They are incredibly
traumatised from where they're
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coming from, what they're
seeking asylum from and they're
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being really traumatised
by their current situation.
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Their families are separated and they see
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no prospect of them ever being reunited.
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They see no hope for the future.
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- A young Sri Lankan man
that I was working with,
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he was Tamil, he was
about 24, 25 years old,
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so we're about the same age,
he was living in an area
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in Sri Lanka, there was a strong presence
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of the Tamil Tigers, one day
they came to the family's house
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and they shot his father in
front of him and he died.
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He and his brother
decided to flee the area.
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So they left for Colombo,
the capitol city.
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They were caught there and he was kept
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in prison for about one year he said
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and he told me he was tortured
throughout the entire time.
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He was highly distressed
when he was on Nauru.
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He had a lot of symptoms of severe trauma.
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He was complaining of
burning all over his body
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all of the time and he had
a lot of cigarette burns
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all over his back, and he said that
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they had burnt his genitals as well.
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The last time I saw him
he was really upset.
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He was crying, he said: "my
life, why is this my life?
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If tonight, I'm in bed and I
just slip a plastic bag over
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my head and died no one would
know, no one would care."
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I had nothing to say. I
didn't know what to say.
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- [Interviewer] Was that
kind of situation common?
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- [Social Worker] Yeah, yeah.
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(rock crunches)
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The deterioration amongst all the asylum
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seekers no matter what their age is,
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is probably what's hardest to see.
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People have really severe
mental healt issues now
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which they didn't have before.
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People are talking to themselves.
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People have psychotic episodes.
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Most outs will be on a range
of medication, 'cause they'll
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take sleeping tablets and
still won't be able to sleep,
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and they're walking around
like zombies essentially.
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They will be on anti-depressant and still
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have thoughts every day
of suicide and self-harm.
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The main thing you're doing for people
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is keeping them alive, asking
them not to harm themselves,
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asking them not to to kill themselves.
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- [Interviewer] Do you tell them
you know things will get better?
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- I tell them that yes, but
I don't know how and when.
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And they know I don't know that.
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(water splashes)
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- By the end of my time at the department
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we were fully aware of the impact
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on someone's mental health on detention.
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And so it was a lot less of a reaction
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to someone's self-harm, it was more seen
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as a well that was inevitable.
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I found that really difficult.
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I found it difficult to work
in a portfolio and a job
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where our job was to implement
a deterrence strategy
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and we knew that doing so
would mean people were damaged.
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(unsettling music)
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- Children have to be in
detention according to the
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government's policies because
it's part of the deterrence.
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In detention over time they develop
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a range of disorders,
because it's miserable.
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They're not given
opportunities to participate
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in normal sorts of activities
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that children require
for their development,
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like opportunities to play even.
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And then they have parents
who are made sick as well,
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who end up not being able to parent them.
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And there's some very young
babies in detention who,
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they're not feeding properly,
they're not gaining weight,
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failing to thrive is the medical term.
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So all of it is really
harmful for children,
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but it's considered the price
that's required to stop boats.
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(unsettling music)
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- [Social Worker] What's your name?
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- Elsie.
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- [Social Worker] Who are you looking for?
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(speaks foreign language)
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- Huh?
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They're growing up on
white, phosphate rock
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in mouldy, damp tents where they
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have no privacy and no space.
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You can't develop age
appropriately in a place like that.
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There's lots of behavioural issues.
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You see kids throwing
rocks, throwing chairs,
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fighting with each other,
isolating themselves.
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You see kids self-harming.
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You see kids banging their heads on walls
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and banging their heads on rocks.
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The use of boat IDs as names is rampant.
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Children will sign
artworks that they've drawn
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with their boat ID; children will refer
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to their friends by their boat ID.
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It's like they've
forgotten their own names.
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It's like they've forgotten who they were
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that they're actually human beings.
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(unsettling music)
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- Sarah Hanson-Young, the
Greens senator in Australia,
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she collected so many toys for kids.
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Finally they approved all these toys
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and it was arrived in Nauru.
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They gave the kids a little number
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and this said, you have surprise tomorrow.
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The kids line up after
school, they give them a bag,
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and they rip up the
bag, and one of the kids
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from Sri Lanka and she grabbed this toy,
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and it was soft toy, and after
months, months, and months
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she grabbed this soft toy
and she didn't know what do
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with it, she just rubbed
all over her neck and face,
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and she was just screaming
of the joy, and we,
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like me and Save the
Children we were just behind
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the counter and we
basically burst to tears.
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We could not believe
it that after one year
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of being in detention
centre she finally grabbed
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a soft toy and she could
hold it and it was hers.
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And then we just felt like what the hell,
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why we kept these kids in this condition.
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(rock crunches)
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(speaking foreign language)
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(muted conversation)
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(unsettling music)
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- [Interviewer] Do you feel any
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guilt or any guilt at all about--
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- None.
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- About children being
dealt with in detention.
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- None whatsoever Neil.
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- But there were ten year
olds on suicide watch.
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- Oh Neil, the most
compassionate thing you can do
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is stop the boats, we
have stopped the boats.
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(rock crunches)
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- For some time now there have
been persistent allegations
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of serious physical and
sexual abuse of children
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and women incarcerated in Nauru.
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After a very long time
this led to the government
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setting up an inquiry, which ultimately
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ended up with what's
called the Moss Report.
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(unsettling music)
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- You see sexualized behaviours
amongst the kids there.
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- [Interviewer] Like what?
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- Like kids touching themselves
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or touching other kids
in a sexualized manner.
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- [Interviewer] How old were those kids?
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- They're young, they're like under five.
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Sexualized behaviour in kids of that age
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suggests that they've had exposure
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to sexual behaviour at
an inappropriate age.
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(unsettling music)
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The Nauru police force
aren't trained to investigate
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or work with kids, or to
interview kids around disclosures.
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The Nauru police work very slowly
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and you often see no results, yeah,
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there's been no
repercussions that I know of.
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(unsettling music)
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(speaking in foreign language)
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(boat motor runs)
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- We recognise that our border
protection policy is tough.
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We recognise many would
see it as harsh, but it
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has proven to be the only way
to stop those deaths at sea.
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(unsettling music)
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- The argument is that we've
got a right to put refugees
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through hell or their
children through hell,
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because it will stop people dying,
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better that they be mashed up in Nauru
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and Manus Island than die at sea.
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And the deaths are appalling.
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But I think it is profoundly hypocritical,
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profoundly hypocritical
to claim that the policies
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that are being pursued at the moment
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by the Australian
government are fundamentally
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humanitarian because
they stop these deaths.
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- The deterrence measures of the sort
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that the government is
employing do nothing
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to address the desperate circumstances
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which are leading to people taking
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those desperate measures to get to safety;
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and really all they're
doing is sweeping people
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from our doorstep, so they don't die
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on our doorstep, but
may well die elsewhere.
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(unsettling music)
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- There was a room change one afternoon.
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One of the transferees
was outside, it started
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to rain, the room change had taken hours,
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and his possessions were getting wet.
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I was standing at the door of his room,
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he walked in briskly and I wasn't afraid,
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I wasn't worried, I didn't
think anything of it
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but two expatriate New
Zealand and Australian
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security guards walked
over to where he was
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in the room and beat him against the wall,
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and twisted his back
over a metal bed frame
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and punched him to unconsciousness.
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I went and talked to the
managers and they said
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don't talk about it,
it's not your problem.
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Eventually I was interviewed by PNG police
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and they shut the door behind
me, and they threatened me
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and told me I should change my statement.
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They gave me all the
other witness statements
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that were by G4S and Salvation Army
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managers who saw exactly what I saw
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and had written in something
completely different.
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So I changed my statement to
say that G4s only pushed him.
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I didn't know what to do at that time
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to get out of that situation,
I was really scared.
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(muted conversation)
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- Security guards when for
example, when the asylum seekers
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are in the computer room
would like aim their hands
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like this and pretend to shoot
at the back of their heads.
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I saw guards say that
they were gonna urinate
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in the drinking water
if the asylum seekers
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wouldn't stop complaining
about dirty water.
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They'd be racist, they would call
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them names and tell them to go home.
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- There were a group that had served
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in the Australian Defence Force
506
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,220
in a lot of the countries
that asylum seekers
507
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,620
were actually coming from, so Afghanistan
508
00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:55,060
was probably the main
one, and then there were
509
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,420
a few others that had worked as bouncers
510
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,280
in night clubs on the Gold
Coast and things like that.
511
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,300
They were very on edge and hyper-vigilant.
512
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,800
Yeah, that was really noticeable.
513
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,860
- [Male News Presenter]
The large riot broke out
514
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,300
at a processing centre on Nauru.
515
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,300
15 security guards were injured
516
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,480
as 300 detainees broke
out on the facility.
517
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,960
(man speaking in agony)
518
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,440
- [Male News Presenter] More
than a hundred asylum seekers
519
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,700
have been transferred into police custody
520
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:40,000
after the violence, which
caused $60,000,000 damage.
521
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,800
(unsettling music)
522
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,640
(protestors yelling)
523
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,320
- [Announcer] For two nights running
524
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,140
there's been chaos and
disorder on Manus Island.
525
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,740
The government says last night's
526
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,840
unrest began with demonstrations.
527
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,160
- [Female Reporter] We've
had very strong suggestions
528
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,460
from refugee advocates
that this was an attack
529
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,100
from outside, the detainees
inside were attacked
530
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,340
by PNG police is the assertion
and also angry locals
531
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:30,980
which machetes and other weapons
532
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,020
and that maybe even several were shot.
533
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,620
There reports are very difficult
534
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,660
to wade our way through at the moment.
535
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,460
- [Male Reporter] I cannot
confirm any of those reports.
536
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,420
Last night I heard there
had been a black out
537
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,680
at the centre and that the
protest was continuing.
538
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:26,320
(cries of agony and muted conversation)
539
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,900
- The veil of secrecy over the
Manus Island detention centre
540
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,620
was partially lifted today
with a report released
541
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,340
by the government into the
February riots at the PNG centre.
542
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,020
Immigration Minister
Scott Morrison joins us.
543
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,460
When you read the account
of Reza Barati's death,
544
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,100
it's very detailed, his
skull was shattered,
545
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,340
he was beaten with sticks
and kicked in the head
546
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,340
by more than 10 officers,
Australians and locals,
547
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,620
did you have even a moment of doubt
548
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,620
about the morality of
offshore detention centres?
549
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,340
- What occurred that night was criminal.
550
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,020
There was a terrible, tragic,
551
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,140
and distressing incident that took place
552
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,660
that night as you said
in your introduction.
553
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,180
What I said we would do in
response to this incident
554
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,900
is have an independent
report that would answer
555
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,980
the question, that's what
our police want to know.
556
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,000
(unsettling music)
557
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,440
(chickens cluck)
558
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,520
(plates clank)
559
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:28,880
(TV presenter speaks in foreign language)
560
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,840
(cars whoosh)
561
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,840
- [Female News Presenter] A 24 year old
562
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,780
Iranian asylum seeker has
died in a Brisbane hospital
563
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,140
tonight after his family agreed to have
564
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,760
his life-support machine switched off.
565
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,620
Hamid Kazhaei was pronounced
brain dead earlier
566
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,740
this week after reportedly suffering
567
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,340
blood poisoning from an infected foot.
568
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:05,660
The asylum seeker was
flown from Manus Island
569
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,340
to Brisbane last week, Scott Morrison says
570
01:11:08,440 --> 01:11:09,660
the Immigration Department will
571
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,220
review the medical treatment he received.
572
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:13,620
- [Scott Morrison] Now I've asked
573
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,200
to review the medical
treatment of this young man.
574
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,520
(water flows)
575
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,340
- Myself and two of my
colleagues wrote explicitly
576
01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:12,780
about medical concerns, in particular
577
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,200
infections starting in their feet.
578
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,660
Then a couple months later Hamid Kazhaei
579
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,620
still died of an infection
starting in his foot,
580
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,420
and we had already told
them months before,
581
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,980
and that's documented,
day, time, and everything.
582
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,080
What we had said is transcribed.
583
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,860
We had a Senate inquiry into the death
584
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,280
of Reza Barati and I don't
see anything changing.
585
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,340
I don't know what can help the men
586
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:44,800
at Manus Island or the people in Nauru.
587
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,820
We are telling the people what's happening
588
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,920
there and nothing's changing.
589
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,920
(unsettling music)
590
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,700
- I'm Peter Dutton, Australian Minister
591
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,820
for Immigration and Border Protection.
592
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,020
I've recorded this message to
593
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,140
provide some important information.
594
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,740
You will know by now that
plans are well under way
595
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,140
for the first group of refugees
596
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,980
to travel and settle in Cambodia.
597
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,260
Cambodian settlement
provides a great opportunity
598
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,020
for refugees to move forward
and begin the next phase
599
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,580
of their lives in a country
that is free from persecution.
600
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,600
(unsettling music)
601
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,960
- [Female News Presenter] Australia is now
in a refugee partnership with Cambodia.
602
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,820
Even on pen the deal's been done.
603
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,980
Australia's provided
a forty million dollar
604
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,120
down payment in additional aid.
605
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,260
Refugees from Nauru will be voluntarily
606
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,360
sent here in the months ahead.
607
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,820
Those who do come will be moving
608
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,340
to one of South-East Asia's
poorest nations where
609
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:59,060
the average wage is less than
a hundred dollars a month.
610
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,980
- The Cambodia deal shows
that Australia can spend
611
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,140
any amount of money doing
pretty much anything
612
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,700
to asylum seekers and the
Australian people will
613
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:13,100
accept it because we don't want them here.
614
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,120
(unsettling music)
615
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,340
- I wanna make it very
clear to all refugees
616
01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:37,180
and transferees in Nauru that you will not
617
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,360
under any circumstances
be settling in Australia.
618
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,660
This is not an option that the Australian
619
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,380
government will every present to you.
620
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:49,400
(unsettling music)
621
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,040
- The current options
for refugees on Nauru
622
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,660
are either to live in the
community there temporarily,
623
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,500
to go to Cambodia, or to return home
624
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,600
to the real prospect of persecution.
625
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,780
- People don't see Nauru
community as a good settlement
626
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:24,880
option, there are no jobs
and if you do get a job,
627
01:15:25,480 --> 01:15:28,440
you get paid three dollars,
four dollars an hour.
628
01:15:29,480 --> 01:15:31,640
The cost of living is very high.
629
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,900
There was an occasion when
none of the supermarkets
630
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,420
even had any food and you
were paying 20 dollars
631
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,520
for a two litre carton of milk.
632
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:51,100
They have no travel document,
they have no options
633
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,640
of reunifying their
family with them on Nauru.
634
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:02,360
You live in demountable blocks.
635
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,100
You have to share rooms, you have
636
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,600
to share houses with
people you don't know.
637
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:16,120
You live behind high fences
and these accommodation areas
638
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:23,120
are staffed by security because
you're at risk from locals.
639
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:31,280
The locals make threats to the women.
640
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,740
They'll say when you get out
of camp, I'm gonna rape you,
641
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:40,040
or they'll proposition them for sex.
642
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:45,240
A lot of the women are very
scared to go into the community.
643
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,840
(unsettling music)
644
01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:17,620
- The Nauru government has declared
645
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,820
that the detention centre
will become an open centre,
646
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,740
24 hours per day, seven
days per week, from today.
647
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,180
It says that all asylum
seekers are now free
648
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,280
to move around the island at their will.
649
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,100
Nauru is promising it will
finalise all remaining
650
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,420
refugee claims within the next week.
651
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:42,980
Hundreds will have to integrate
652
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,160
into the tiny island's population.
653
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:51,420
Can the Australian government
guarantee the safety
654
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:52,740
of the people as they're released
655
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,300
into the Nauruan communities,
particularly given
656
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:59,820
that women and children, 67
allegations of child abuse,
657
01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:03,020
33 claims of rape and
sexual assault on Nauru.
658
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,620
Can the Australian government
659
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,420
guarantee these people's safety?
660
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,060
- Well Emma, the Australian government,
661
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:09,700
or the Queensland, or New South Wales,
662
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,300
Victoria government can't
provide you with that guarantee
663
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,200
for people coming out into
the Australian society.
664
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,420
We've provided additional
support through the
665
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,860
Australian Federal Police to
mentor those police on Nauru,
666
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,460
to help with them with
investigations, with prosecutions,
667
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,780
to make sure that we can provide support
668
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:33,640
to have an environment that
is as safe as possible.
669
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:43,280
- People are returning home
more now than they ever were,
670
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,860
returning to their country
of origin and then attempting
671
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,600
to seek asylum again
in a different country.
672
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,780
Nothing's changed for them
in their home countries,
673
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,700
often they'll state that they
674
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,640
are returning to extreme danger.
675
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,820
It's really hard to hear that they feel
676
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,920
like that's their only option.
677
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:14,160
It's hard to feel proud to
be an Australian citizen.
678
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,660
There's a lot of shame now associated
679
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,340
with being an Australian for myself,
680
01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:24,720
because of the way
Australia's treating people.
681
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:35,320
I keep going back for clients
and for my colleagues.
682
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:42,180
You have clients when you go
on your respite, say to you
683
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,780
before you're going: "are you coming back?
684
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,980
Please come back, please don't forget
685
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,280
about us, please don't leave us here."
686
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:55,340
So that is really hard to
hear and you wanna come back
687
01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:59,300
for them, you want something to change
688
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:03,020
and you want to advocate
for them and fight for them.
689
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:08,120
And that keeps bringing
you back for that feeling
690
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,220
gets worn down by the
constant blockages you get
691
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,680
from immigration and the lack of change.
692
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:32,180
- Operation wise, everything
I was trying to bring to
693
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,840
the attention of management,
nothing's been done about it.
694
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,020
I got to a personal level of this
695
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,120
has got to stop and I can't stop it.
696
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,060
I was becoming emotional, there was a lot
697
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,520
of stressors starting to fall upon me,
698
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,340
because I'd voiced my opinion loudly about
699
01:20:55,440 --> 01:20:57,440
what we were doing as a company.
700
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:03,100
I found a hand-written
note on my bed suggesting
701
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:08,200
that I should shut up or
somehow would come to myself.
702
01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:15,480
And then I received a
message that I continued on
703
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,640
that the great possibility
that I would be found floating
704
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,640
alongside the HMS Choules at some stage.
705
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,560
That scared the shit out
of me, that really did
706
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:35,000
and I pulled the pin,
I said enough's enough.
707
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,700
It sat with me for
quite a number of months
708
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,320
and if I didn't speak
out, who was going to?
709
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:54,240
I've got a conscience and I
was brought up the right way
710
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,740
and I don't understand how
we can do this to each other.
711
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,540
So I felt that it was my turn, my time,
712
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,800
it was the right thing to do.
713
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,020
People need to talk out, we need
714
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,120
to tell each other what's going on.
715
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,320
(unsettling music)
716
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,180
- I think Australians are pretty
sick of being lectured to.
717
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:34,940
I really think Australians are sick
718
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:39,100
of being lectured to by the
United Nations, particularly,
719
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,880
particularly given that
we have stopped the boats.
720
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,640
(despairing music)
721
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,320
- [Male News Presenter]
Thousands are stranded at sea,
722
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,620
but the PM says he doesn't want
723
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,800
to encourage people to
risk their lives on boats.
724
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,520
- [Female News Presenter]
The Prime Minister
725
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,060
has ruled out resettling
any Rohingya asylum seekers
726
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,620
in Australia despite claims from Malaysia
727
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,060
and Indonesia, the load to
be shared among the region.
728
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,820
The United States has
offered to take a lead role
729
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,700
in resolving this crisis,
we simply don't know
730
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,920
how many people are out there
and they are drifting at sea.
731
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,280
(unsettling music)
732
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:55,740
- [Interviewer] If it was up to you now,
733
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,500
which country would you head for?
734
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,180
- I think all of person in the boat
735
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,320
now want to go to Australia.
736
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,280
(engaging music)
737
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,200
(helicopter whirs)
738
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:22,740
- It was the right thing to do.
739
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,840
We didn't have an option.
740
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,640
The fact that we had
been fighting in Vietnam
741
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,280
added to the sense of
obligation that I felt.
742
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,980
Within hours we persuaded Malaysia
743
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,440
to establish a processing centre.
744
01:24:39,440 --> 01:24:41,900
People were processed, often
quite quickly in a month
745
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,220
or two, and if they were coming
746
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,400
to Australia they were flown to Australia.
747
01:24:47,440 --> 01:24:50,660
So there was no danger
of people drowning at sea
748
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,680
once they'd go to their
processing centre in Malaysia.
749
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:59,660
As a consequence of
accepting Vietnamese refugees
750
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,540
we have a very vigorous, very loyal,
751
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:07,260
Australian Vietnamese community,
which adds to our culture,
752
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:12,360
adds to our wealth, adds to
the diversity of Australia
753
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,160
in very productive and beneficial ways.
754
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,400
(engaging music)
755
01:25:39,480 --> 01:25:41,640
(gunfire)
756
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:56,160
(people yelling and horns honking)
757
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:04,040
(unsettling melancholic music)
758
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:14,240
(crowd applauds and whistles)
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(unsettling music)
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- [Tony Abbott] Well what
we do is we stop the boats,
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by hook or by crook because
that's what we've got to do
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and that's what we've successfully done.
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And I just don't want to go into
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the details of how it's done.
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(unsettling music)
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(boat motor runs and water splashes)
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(unsettling music)
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(dark music with piano notes)
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