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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,680 (smoke whooshes) 2 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,040 (boat motor runs and waves splash) 3 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,200 (unsettling music) 4 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:25,260 - We we will decide who comes to this country 5 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,580 and the circumstances in which they come. 6 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,400 (crowd applauds) 7 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,980 We just can't continue sending a signal to the rest 8 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,220 of the world that this is a nation of easy destination. 9 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:43,240 (unsettling music) 10 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,460 - This House today can send a very clear message to asylum 11 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:59,300 seekers who are contemplating risking a voyage at sea 12 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,660 and that message very clearly is don't risk it, 13 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,940 don't give your money to a people smuggler 14 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,200 because you will not be better off. 15 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,300 - I make absolutely no apology whatsoever 16 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,800 for taking a hard line on illegal immigration to Australia. 17 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,540 - What the Australian people 18 00:02:20,640 --> 00:02:23,000 elected us to stop the boats. 19 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,760 This is a national emergency, we've got to treat as such. 20 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,480 - This is a border security operation. 21 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,660 Our resolve to implement what we have promised 22 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:40,720 the Australian people to stop the boats is absolute. 23 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,520 (unsettling music) 24 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:19,360 (camera rattles) 25 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,820 - [Social Worker] Thank you. 26 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,900 - [Guard] You're welcome, enjoy your day. 27 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,180 - [Social Worker] You too. 28 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,700 - [Guard #2] How are you this morning? 29 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:00,540 - [Social Worker] How are you? 30 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:01,500 - [Guard # 2] Good, how are you? 31 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,360 - [Social Worker] Good thank you. 32 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,400 (rock crunches) 33 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,400 I knew it was a detention centre. 34 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,120 I didn't know there'd be so many high fences, 35 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,680 that people would be so restricted in their movement, 36 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,240 that they would live in tents, 37 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,320 that people have already been there for over 400, 500 days. 38 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,000 I didn't know there'd be so many security personnel. 39 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,720 It feels militarised. 40 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,080 (unsettling music) 41 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,700 - A friend of mine called me and told me, 42 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,380 "hey they're hiring people to go to Nauru, 43 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,340 you should go you're interested in asylum seekers." 44 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,660 And I thought, yeah, yeah I guess I am, 45 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,660 so she gave me this number and she got the number off 46 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,860 of Facebook Ad, believe it or not, and I called 47 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,980 this number and said I'd like to go to Nauru, 48 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,360 and the woman said: "sure when can you leave?" 49 00:06:01,280 --> 00:06:03,660 - I was a student at Macquarie uni in Sydney 50 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,860 and I joined the Salvation Army Society on Facebook, 51 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,420 and they posted an add about going to work 52 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:11,820 in Nauru and at the time they made it 53 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,220 sound like really nice out there. 54 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,100 They made it sound like it was just a two week 55 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,860 kind of holiday, you could bring your friends along. 56 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,720 Yeah I called the number that was listed on the website 57 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,180 and two to three days later I was 58 00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:28,720 in Nauru with two of my best friends from school. 59 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,640 My friend that came with, he was a manager at McDonald's 60 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,600 and my other friend packed boxes in a factory. 61 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,860 - A wide range of people were hired and they were 62 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,740 18 year olds, university students, retirees, 63 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:48,060 and the only thing that we had in common was that none 64 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,640 of us had experience working with refugees before. 65 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,440 (unsettling music) 66 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,660 I can't stress enough the remoteness 67 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,760 of the location of Nauru. 68 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,980 It's in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. 69 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,120 It's an island of 10,000 people. 70 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,460 It takes 20 minutes to drive around the island. 71 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,560 It's extremely hot. 72 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,360 (unsettling uptempo music) 73 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,680 You immediately notice how poor the island is. 74 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,700 Then the Australian government comes to the Nauru government 75 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,340 and says, we're gonna offer you several billion dollars 76 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,980 over the next however many years 77 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,580 to house a few thousand asylum seekers. 78 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,020 For a failing economy like Nauru, I can imagine 79 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,040 it would seem like a very good option. 80 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,000 (rock crunches) 81 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,080 On my first day we had moved up to the camp. 82 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,540 The Salvation Army gave us a very small briefing 83 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:09,420 and said go out and help them and be their friends. 84 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,620 - The lady that took us in there, she said: 85 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,200 "okay now, we want you to get in pairs. 86 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,540 I'll be back in a couple of hours, 87 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,960 go and mingle", and then she just left. 88 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,160 (unsettling music) 89 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,580 - I went up to a group of men who were sitting 90 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:47,680 under the only tree in the whole centre. 91 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,420 I asked them how they were and they were like, 92 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,600 they said to me: "why are you here and why are we here?" 93 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,940 - How long will we be here for? 94 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,980 And we've been given as instructions is go out 95 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,660 and help the men, and it's at that point 96 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,200 that I realised what the hell am I doing here. 97 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,200 (unsettling music) 98 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,980 - [Social Worker] A lot of people were really confused 99 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,080 when they first arrived in Nauru. 100 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,500 I remember one particular intake, 101 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,900 a lot of the men were saying to me: "where are we, 102 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,520 I thought this was part of Australia?" 103 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,740 So it was up to us to tell them that no, 104 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:33,880 you're not in Australia, you're in Nauru. 105 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,900 - One of my most vivid memories was a sign being 106 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,940 on the wall saying that staff would have 107 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,520 to be trained how to use a Hoffman's knife. 108 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,220 When I asked what a Hoffman's knife was it was the knife 109 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,040 used to cut people down when they're found hanging. 110 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:01,140 Quite quickly I started to realise that I had sent myself 111 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,200 to a place which I had never would have gone. 112 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,300 - I don't think anybody wakes up and says, I've decided 113 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,660 that I decided that I wanna run a detention centre. 114 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,740 I grew up on Sydney's North Shore, 115 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,580 fairly comfortable upbringing, upper middle-class 116 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:32,580 white guy in a place with very few migrants at all. 117 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:35,540 And frankly didn't care about immigration, 118 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,540 didn't care about asylum seekers, 119 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,060 it wasn't something that I confronted in my life 120 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,740 and didn't feel it was something I was passionate about. 121 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,980 It wasn't something that my friends talked about, 122 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,100 I just really didn't care, it just didn't feature. 123 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,060 (rock crunches) 124 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,500 I suppose for me, my story is about coming across 125 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,640 this policy issue completely naive to the problems. 126 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,260 Initially it was about looking after people in detention 127 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,320 and shifted to a policy of deterrence. 128 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,420 So you go from looking after people to saying if you 129 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,020 come here we're gonna make it worse for you 130 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,120 than if you stayed where you came from. 131 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,060 - The idea was to say we don't you 132 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,760 and your families coming to Australia by boat 133 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:34,620 and so we're gonna make this place as horrible as possible 134 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,660 to convince you to tell the people back 135 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,760 in your countries not to come by boat. 136 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,820 What that means for the people in offshore 137 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,620 detention centres is that they're stuck there 138 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,720 with no idea of what will happen to them. 139 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,160 (foreboding music) 140 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,460 - The threat of asylum seekers has been blown up 141 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:06,220 to create a huge political storm around 142 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,620 the issue, which then needs an answer, 143 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,520 and the answer is to stop the boats coming. 144 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,100 And you'd be naive to think that the hard-line policies 145 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,480 of the Australian government have not done that. 146 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,300 They've attacked the people smuggler's business 147 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,540 model, as they call it, successfully. 148 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,860 They've stopped the boats successfully, 149 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,220 but there is a human cost to that 150 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,420 and we see it in Indonesia, we see it 151 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,560 on Manus Island, we see it on Nauru. 152 00:12:35,680 --> 00:12:38,600 (unsettling music) 153 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:54,760 (motorbikes revving) 154 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,440 I've been in Indonesia for almost three years. 155 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:02,140 Probably the most common story I write is 156 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,620 on refugees and asylum seekers trying 157 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,080 to find a way through Indonesia to Australia. 158 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,040 Now the boats have stopped, the way is closed, 159 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:15,820 really it's about people who are stoppered 160 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,920 here and what their life is like. 161 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,920 (unsettling music) 162 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:36,840 (muted conversations) 163 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,820 They're unable to work, if they have children, 164 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,920 the children cannot go to school. 165 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,500 Everything that they want costs 166 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,120 them money that they're unable to earn. 167 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,120 They're stuck in limbo here. 168 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,560 (keys pound) 169 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,960 (unsettling music) 170 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,040 (bread slams) 171 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,880 (bread slams) 172 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:10,960 - Okay thank you and again come back here shopping. 173 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,000 (motorbikes rev) 174 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:35,040 (traditional Afghan music) 175 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,360 (boat motor runs) 176 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,060 - Today the Prime Minister of Papua New Guinea 177 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,700 and I are announcing a major initiative 178 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,360 to combat the scourge of people smuggling. 179 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,580 From now on any asylum seeker who arrives in Australia 180 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,780 by boat will have no chance of being 181 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,020 settled in Australia as refugees. 182 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:31,900 If they are found to be genuine refugees 183 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,360 they will be resettled in Papau New Guinea. 184 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,260 Australia will continue its cooperative arrangements 185 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,660 on people smuggling with the Republic of Nauru 186 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:43,860 and looks forward to furthering 187 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,960 those arrangements in the future. 188 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,320 (ominous music) 189 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,400 (unsettling music) 190 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,160 (water splashes) 191 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,080 (unsettling music) 192 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,800 - And there was daily, plane loads of detainees coming in. 193 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:21,240 Manus was to become a camp for single men. 194 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,660 G4S management approached me to go up there 195 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,400 in a training role to train expat staff 196 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,840 in the position of Safety and Security Officer. 197 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:42,300 I'd spent eight or nine years as a prison officer, the only 198 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,080 people that I had experience with was the criminal world. 199 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,400 It was not what I thought a detention camp wold be, 200 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,780 one of the worst for accommodation, 201 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,080 a World War II hut made of tin on a concrete floor, 202 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,720 122 double bunks in this shed. 203 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,780 Manus Island is tropical and those guys 204 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,400 were housed in it, a tin shed. 205 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,200 It was disgusting. The odour was disgusting. 206 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,380 I just couldn't believe what I was looking at. 207 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,480 It was amazing. 208 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,240 - Manus looked like a jail to me. 209 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,200 The men were padlocked in behind gates. 210 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,920 There was faeces, open faeces on the ground. 211 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,860 Men didn't have enough clothes. Men didn't have shoes. 212 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,220 They didn't have enough drinking water. 213 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,240 There was malaria. There was sickness, disease, infection. 214 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,600 - Some of the guys were very happy to see new staff arrive, 215 00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,260 then it struck me they were happy to see new faces 216 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:30,200 because of the boredom that they were leaving. 217 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,660 Once we'd been there for a number of weeks 218 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,260 then they started to slip back into what 219 00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:40,360 I now know as their own lifestyle, 220 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,600 they're just slant-shoulders, just broken men. 221 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,380 These guys had no future and that's 222 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,480 what their faces showed to me. 223 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,420 - The message is simple if you come to Australia 224 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,100 illegally by boat there is no way 225 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,200 you will ever make Australia home. 226 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:15,580 - The act of seeking asylum is not illegal because it's 227 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,860 a right, it's a right that arises under 228 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,460 the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, 229 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,180 and it's also a right that arises under a range 230 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,060 of international human rights treaties 231 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,160 such as the Refugee's Convention. 232 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,300 - The Refugee Convention is one of the most humane 233 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,120 international understandings on the planet. 234 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,500 It's the world's apology for what was done 235 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,140 to the Jewish people in the 1930s 236 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,060 for the doors closed in the faces 237 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,880 of the Jewish people trying to feel the Holocaust. 238 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:00,220 It was an understanding between countries 239 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,180 that when people were seeking protection from persecution 240 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,640 that they could cross a border, they could seek protection 241 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,500 and Australia signed up to it. 242 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,180 Australia said look yes, we decide who comes 243 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,420 into this country and we decide by signing 244 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,080 this convention that we'll let refugees come here, 245 00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:27,180 and we'll let 'em come as they come everywhere else 246 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,280 in the world, we'll let 'em come by sea. 247 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,440 (unsettling music) 248 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,840 (rock crunches) 249 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,080 - [Social Worker] Hey there. 250 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,160 (fan whirs) 251 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,820 - It's quite obvious that the camps 252 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,920 are set up to send people home. 253 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,800 I know that it's not supposed to be a holiday, 254 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,340 but it took about six weeks, I think, 255 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,240 for them to start to degrade mentally. 256 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,040 (bag closes) 257 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,180 - The whole concept of indefinite detention 258 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,920 is this idea that there is no progress. 259 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,820 If you a criminal in Australia, you say, you've committed 260 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,720 a crime, your punishment is two years in jail. 261 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,800 For these men, they don't know what crime they've committed. 262 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,380 Under the Refugee Convention they've got every right 263 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,300 to come here and ask for protection, 264 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,400 at least have their stories heard. 265 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,660 When you've got this two year sentence 266 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,080 as a prisoner you can't count down the days; 267 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,920 for these men, they didn't have that. 268 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,460 Day two is the same as day five, 269 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,560 which is the same as day a hundred, 270 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,220 except by day a hundred you've spent 100 days 271 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,300 in this camp with no idea of if you're progressing 272 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,400 any closer to your future goal. 273 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,600 (bag rustles) 274 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,860 (fan whirs) 275 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,280 - I never really had seen daily self-harm, up to four a day. 276 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,560 There was no hope to give them. 277 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,020 I'd be lying if I told them I knew 278 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,560 and I could make their life better 'cause I couldn't. 279 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,680 I saw men cut their stomach open with glass. 280 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,420 One man take a fluorescent light tube 281 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,840 and beat himself across the head and stab himself, 282 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,180 men suffocating themselves, men stitching 283 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,080 their lips, one man stitched his eyelid. 284 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,660 - A lot of cutting, sometimes superficial, 285 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,660 sometimes deeper, swallowing Rid, 286 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,840 swallowing washing powder, swallowing razor blades, 287 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,100 people trying to hang themselves 288 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:30,200 with rope, fan cords, knitting wool. 289 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,980 They are incredibly traumatised from where they're 290 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,660 coming from, what they're seeking asylum from and they're 291 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:46,600 being really traumatised by their current situation. 292 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,380 Their families are separated and they see 293 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,880 no prospect of them ever being reunited. 294 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,160 They see no hope for the future. 295 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,860 - A young Sri Lankan man that I was working with, 296 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,960 he was Tamil, he was about 24, 25 years old, 297 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,620 so we're about the same age, he was living in an area 298 00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:29,420 in Sri Lanka, there was a strong presence 299 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,520 of the Tamil Tigers, one day they came to the family's house 300 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,400 and they shot his father in front of him and he died. 301 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,540 He and his brother decided to flee the area. 302 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,940 So they left for Colombo, the capitol city. 303 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,260 They were caught there and he was kept 304 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,580 in prison for about one year he said 305 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,280 and he told me he was tortured throughout the entire time. 306 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,000 He was highly distressed when he was on Nauru. 307 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,360 He had a lot of symptoms of severe trauma. 308 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,940 He was complaining of burning all over his body 309 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,300 all of the time and he had a lot of cigarette burns 310 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,740 all over his back, and he said that 311 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,560 they had burnt his genitals as well. 312 00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:33,000 The last time I saw him he was really upset. 313 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:39,240 He was crying, he said: "my life, why is this my life? 314 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,260 If tonight, I'm in bed and I just slip a plastic bag over 315 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,360 my head and died no one would know, no one would care." 316 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,160 I had nothing to say. I didn't know what to say. 317 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,900 - [Interviewer] Was that kind of situation common? 318 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,400 - [Social Worker] Yeah, yeah. 319 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,280 (rock crunches) 320 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,900 The deterioration amongst all the asylum 321 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,500 seekers no matter what their age is, 322 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,840 is probably what's hardest to see. 323 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,920 People have really severe mental healt issues now 324 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,220 which they didn't have before. 325 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,300 People are talking to themselves. 326 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,700 People have psychotic episodes. 327 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,140 Most outs will be on a range of medication, 'cause they'll 328 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:38,420 take sleeping tablets and still won't be able to sleep, 329 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:43,540 and they're walking around like zombies essentially. 330 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,640 They will be on anti-depressant and still 331 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,720 have thoughts every day of suicide and self-harm. 332 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:57,780 The main thing you're doing for people 333 00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,880 is keeping them alive, asking them not to harm themselves, 334 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,840 asking them not to to kill themselves. 335 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,060 - [Interviewer] Do you tell them you know things will get better? 336 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:15,160 - I tell them that yes, but I don't know how and when. 337 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,280 And they know I don't know that. 338 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,600 (water splashes) 339 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,860 - By the end of my time at the department 340 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,300 we were fully aware of the impact 341 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,440 on someone's mental health on detention. 342 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,780 And so it was a lot less of a reaction 343 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,340 to someone's self-harm, it was more seen 344 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,440 as a well that was inevitable. 345 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,380 I found that really difficult. 346 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,500 I found it difficult to work in a portfolio and a job 347 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,520 where our job was to implement a deterrence strategy 348 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,360 and we knew that doing so would mean people were damaged. 349 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,600 (unsettling music) 350 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,260 - Children have to be in detention according to the 351 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,240 government's policies because it's part of the deterrence. 352 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,620 In detention over time they develop 353 00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:02,720 a range of disorders, because it's miserable. 354 00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,340 They're not given opportunities to participate 355 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,380 in normal sorts of activities 356 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,680 that children require for their development, 357 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,480 like opportunities to play even. 358 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,260 And then they have parents who are made sick as well, 359 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,440 who end up not being able to parent them. 360 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,140 And there's some very young babies in detention who, 361 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:38,420 they're not feeding properly, they're not gaining weight, 362 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,160 failing to thrive is the medical term. 363 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,640 So all of it is really harmful for children, 364 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,880 but it's considered the price that's required to stop boats. 365 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,280 (unsettling music) 366 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,420 - [Social Worker] What's your name? 367 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,520 - Elsie. 368 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,900 - [Social Worker] Who are you looking for? 369 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,060 (speaks foreign language) 370 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,060 - Huh? 371 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:17,100 They're growing up on white, phosphate rock 372 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,700 in mouldy, damp tents where they 373 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,040 have no privacy and no space. 374 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,400 You can't develop age appropriately in a place like that. 375 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,560 There's lots of behavioural issues. 376 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,980 You see kids throwing rocks, throwing chairs, 377 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,960 fighting with each other, isolating themselves. 378 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,640 You see kids self-harming. 379 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,420 You see kids banging their heads on walls 380 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,520 and banging their heads on rocks. 381 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,680 The use of boat IDs as names is rampant. 382 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,540 Children will sign artworks that they've drawn 383 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,900 with their boat ID; children will refer 384 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,200 to their friends by their boat ID. 385 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,620 It's like they've forgotten their own names. 386 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,640 It's like they've forgotten who they were 387 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,960 that they're actually human beings. 388 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,960 (unsettling music) 389 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,660 - Sarah Hanson-Young, the Greens senator in Australia, 390 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,120 she collected so many toys for kids. 391 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,500 Finally they approved all these toys 392 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,880 and it was arrived in Nauru. 393 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,860 They gave the kids a little number 394 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,120 and this said, you have surprise tomorrow. 395 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,700 The kids line up after school, they give them a bag, 396 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,940 and they rip up the bag, and one of the kids 397 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:15,780 from Sri Lanka and she grabbed this toy, 398 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:20,180 and it was soft toy, and after months, months, and months 399 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,420 she grabbed this soft toy and she didn't know what do 400 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,740 with it, she just rubbed all over her neck and face, 401 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,900 and she was just screaming of the joy, and we, 402 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,180 like me and Save the Children we were just behind 403 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,260 the counter and we basically burst to tears. 404 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,700 We could not believe it that after one year 405 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,900 of being in detention centre she finally grabbed 406 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,860 a soft toy and she could hold it and it was hers. 407 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,140 And then we just felt like what the hell, 408 00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:51,740 why we kept these kids in this condition. 409 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,520 (rock crunches) 410 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,760 (speaking foreign language) 411 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,000 (muted conversation) 412 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,720 (unsettling music) 413 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:28,860 - [Interviewer] Do you feel any 414 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,500 guilt or any guilt at all about-- 415 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:31,300 - None. 416 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,400 - About children being dealt with in detention. 417 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:33,660 - None whatsoever Neil. 418 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,860 - But there were ten year olds on suicide watch. 419 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,180 - Oh Neil, the most compassionate thing you can do 420 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,000 is stop the boats, we have stopped the boats. 421 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,980 (rock crunches) 422 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,260 - For some time now there have been persistent allegations 423 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,100 of serious physical and sexual abuse of children 424 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,920 and women incarcerated in Nauru. 425 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,500 After a very long time this led to the government 426 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,100 setting up an inquiry, which ultimately 427 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,400 ended up with what's called the Moss Report. 428 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,760 (unsettling music) 429 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,960 - You see sexualized behaviours amongst the kids there. 430 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,460 - [Interviewer] Like what? 431 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,400 - Like kids touching themselves 432 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,140 or touching other kids in a sexualized manner. 433 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,400 - [Interviewer] How old were those kids? 434 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,880 - They're young, they're like under five. 435 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,380 Sexualized behaviour in kids of that age 436 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,860 suggests that they've had exposure 437 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,960 to sexual behaviour at an inappropriate age. 438 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,760 (unsettling music) 439 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,820 The Nauru police force aren't trained to investigate 440 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,040 or work with kids, or to interview kids around disclosures. 441 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,660 The Nauru police work very slowly 442 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,880 and you often see no results, yeah, 443 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,080 there's been no repercussions that I know of. 444 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,480 (unsettling music) 445 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,800 (speaking in foreign language) 446 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,880 (boat motor runs) 447 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:15,000 - We recognise that our border protection policy is tough. 448 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,980 We recognise many would see it as harsh, but it 449 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:25,080 has proven to be the only way to stop those deaths at sea. 450 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,360 (unsettling music) 451 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:44,440 - The argument is that we've got a right to put refugees 452 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,620 through hell or their children through hell, 453 00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:49,820 because it will stop people dying, 454 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,500 better that they be mashed up in Nauru 455 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,280 and Manus Island than die at sea. 456 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,000 And the deaths are appalling. 457 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,180 But I think it is profoundly hypocritical, 458 00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,180 profoundly hypocritical to claim that the policies 459 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,620 that are being pursued at the moment 460 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:14,860 by the Australian government are fundamentally 461 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,000 humanitarian because they stop these deaths. 462 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,460 - The deterrence measures of the sort 463 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,020 that the government is employing do nothing 464 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,020 to address the desperate circumstances 465 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:36,780 which are leading to people taking 466 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,540 those desperate measures to get to safety; 467 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,180 and really all they're doing is sweeping people 468 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,660 from our doorstep, so they don't die 469 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,940 on our doorstep, but may well die elsewhere. 470 00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,960 (unsettling music) 471 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,120 - There was a room change one afternoon. 472 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:14,460 One of the transferees was outside, it started 473 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,860 to rain, the room change had taken hours, 474 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,240 and his possessions were getting wet. 475 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,300 I was standing at the door of his room, 476 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,180 he walked in briskly and I wasn't afraid, 477 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,700 I wasn't worried, I didn't think anything of it 478 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,500 but two expatriate New Zealand and Australian 479 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,660 security guards walked over to where he was 480 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,140 in the room and beat him against the wall, 481 00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:47,100 and twisted his back over a metal bed frame 482 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,520 and punched him to unconsciousness. 483 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,940 I went and talked to the managers and they said 484 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,800 don't talk about it, it's not your problem. 485 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,360 Eventually I was interviewed by PNG police 486 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,780 and they shut the door behind me, and they threatened me 487 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,000 and told me I should change my statement. 488 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,220 They gave me all the other witness statements 489 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,220 that were by G4S and Salvation Army 490 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,420 managers who saw exactly what I saw 491 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,000 and had written in something completely different. 492 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,320 So I changed my statement to say that G4s only pushed him. 493 00:54:28,720 --> 00:54:32,220 I didn't know what to do at that time 494 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,080 to get out of that situation, I was really scared. 495 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,480 (muted conversation) 496 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,300 - Security guards when for example, when the asylum seekers 497 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,740 are in the computer room would like aim their hands 498 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,840 like this and pretend to shoot at the back of their heads. 499 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,900 I saw guards say that they were gonna urinate 500 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,980 in the drinking water if the asylum seekers 501 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,280 wouldn't stop complaining about dirty water. 502 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,060 They'd be racist, they would call 503 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,640 them names and tell them to go home. 504 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,820 - There were a group that had served 505 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,820 in the Australian Defence Force 506 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,220 in a lot of the countries that asylum seekers 507 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,620 were actually coming from, so Afghanistan 508 00:55:51,720 --> 00:55:55,060 was probably the main one, and then there were 509 00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:59,420 a few others that had worked as bouncers 510 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,280 in night clubs on the Gold Coast and things like that. 511 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,300 They were very on edge and hyper-vigilant. 512 00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,800 Yeah, that was really noticeable. 513 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,860 - [Male News Presenter] The large riot broke out 514 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,300 at a processing centre on Nauru. 515 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,300 15 security guards were injured 516 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:29,480 as 300 detainees broke out on the facility. 517 00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,960 (man speaking in agony) 518 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,440 - [Male News Presenter] More than a hundred asylum seekers 519 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:35,700 have been transferred into police custody 520 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:40,000 after the violence, which caused $60,000,000 damage. 521 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,800 (unsettling music) 522 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,640 (protestors yelling) 523 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,320 - [Announcer] For two nights running 524 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,140 there's been chaos and disorder on Manus Island. 525 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,740 The government says last night's 526 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,840 unrest began with demonstrations. 527 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,160 - [Female Reporter] We've had very strong suggestions 528 01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,460 from refugee advocates that this was an attack 529 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,100 from outside, the detainees inside were attacked 530 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:29,340 by PNG police is the assertion and also angry locals 531 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:30,980 which machetes and other weapons 532 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,020 and that maybe even several were shot. 533 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,620 There reports are very difficult 534 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,660 to wade our way through at the moment. 535 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,460 - [Male Reporter] I cannot confirm any of those reports. 536 01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,420 Last night I heard there had been a black out 537 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:46,680 at the centre and that the protest was continuing. 538 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:26,320 (cries of agony and muted conversation) 539 01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,900 - The veil of secrecy over the Manus Island detention centre 540 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,620 was partially lifted today with a report released 541 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,340 by the government into the February riots at the PNG centre. 542 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,020 Immigration Minister Scott Morrison joins us. 543 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,460 When you read the account of Reza Barati's death, 544 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,100 it's very detailed, his skull was shattered, 545 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,340 he was beaten with sticks and kicked in the head 546 01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,340 by more than 10 officers, Australians and locals, 547 01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,620 did you have even a moment of doubt 548 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,620 about the morality of offshore detention centres? 549 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,340 - What occurred that night was criminal. 550 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,020 There was a terrible, tragic, 551 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,140 and distressing incident that took place 552 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,660 that night as you said in your introduction. 553 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,180 What I said we would do in response to this incident 554 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,900 is have an independent report that would answer 555 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,980 the question, that's what our police want to know. 556 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,000 (unsettling music) 557 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,440 (chickens cluck) 558 01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,520 (plates clank) 559 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:28,880 (TV presenter speaks in foreign language) 560 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:54,840 (cars whoosh) 561 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:45,840 - [Female News Presenter] A 24 year old 562 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,780 Iranian asylum seeker has died in a Brisbane hospital 563 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,140 tonight after his family agreed to have 564 01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,760 his life-support machine switched off. 565 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,620 Hamid Kazhaei was pronounced brain dead earlier 566 01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,740 this week after reportedly suffering 567 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,340 blood poisoning from an infected foot. 568 01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:05,660 The asylum seeker was flown from Manus Island 569 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,340 to Brisbane last week, Scott Morrison says 570 01:11:08,440 --> 01:11:09,660 the Immigration Department will 571 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,220 review the medical treatment he received. 572 01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:13,620 - [Scott Morrison] Now I've asked 573 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,200 to review the medical treatment of this young man. 574 01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,520 (water flows) 575 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,340 - Myself and two of my colleagues wrote explicitly 576 01:12:09,440 --> 01:12:12,780 about medical concerns, in particular 577 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,200 infections starting in their feet. 578 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,660 Then a couple months later Hamid Kazhaei 579 01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,620 still died of an infection starting in his foot, 580 01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:24,420 and we had already told them months before, 581 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,980 and that's documented, day, time, and everything. 582 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,080 What we had said is transcribed. 583 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,860 We had a Senate inquiry into the death 584 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,280 of Reza Barati and I don't see anything changing. 585 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,340 I don't know what can help the men 586 01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:44,800 at Manus Island or the people in Nauru. 587 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,820 We are telling the people what's happening 588 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,920 there and nothing's changing. 589 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,920 (unsettling music) 590 01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,700 - I'm Peter Dutton, Australian Minister 591 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,820 for Immigration and Border Protection. 592 01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,020 I've recorded this message to 593 01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,140 provide some important information. 594 01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,740 You will know by now that plans are well under way 595 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,140 for the first group of refugees 596 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,980 to travel and settle in Cambodia. 597 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,260 Cambodian settlement provides a great opportunity 598 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:16,020 for refugees to move forward and begin the next phase 599 01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,580 of their lives in a country that is free from persecution. 600 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,600 (unsettling music) 601 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,960 - [Female News Presenter] Australia is now in a refugee partnership with Cambodia. 602 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:36,820 Even on pen the deal's been done. 603 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,980 Australia's provided a forty million dollar 604 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,120 down payment in additional aid. 605 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,260 Refugees from Nauru will be voluntarily 606 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,360 sent here in the months ahead. 607 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,820 Those who do come will be moving 608 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,340 to one of South-East Asia's poorest nations where 609 01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:59,060 the average wage is less than a hundred dollars a month. 610 01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,980 - The Cambodia deal shows that Australia can spend 611 01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,140 any amount of money doing pretty much anything 612 01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:08,700 to asylum seekers and the Australian people will 613 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:13,100 accept it because we don't want them here. 614 01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:16,120 (unsettling music) 615 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,340 - I wanna make it very clear to all refugees 616 01:14:34,440 --> 01:14:37,180 and transferees in Nauru that you will not 617 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,360 under any circumstances be settling in Australia. 618 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,660 This is not an option that the Australian 619 01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,380 government will every present to you. 620 01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:49,400 (unsettling music) 621 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,040 - The current options for refugees on Nauru 622 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,660 are either to live in the community there temporarily, 623 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,500 to go to Cambodia, or to return home 624 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,600 to the real prospect of persecution. 625 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,780 - People don't see Nauru community as a good settlement 626 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:24,880 option, there are no jobs and if you do get a job, 627 01:15:25,480 --> 01:15:28,440 you get paid three dollars, four dollars an hour. 628 01:15:29,480 --> 01:15:31,640 The cost of living is very high. 629 01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,900 There was an occasion when none of the supermarkets 630 01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,420 even had any food and you were paying 20 dollars 631 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,520 for a two litre carton of milk. 632 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:51,100 They have no travel document, they have no options 633 01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,640 of reunifying their family with them on Nauru. 634 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:02,360 You live in demountable blocks. 635 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:07,100 You have to share rooms, you have 636 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,600 to share houses with people you don't know. 637 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:16,120 You live behind high fences and these accommodation areas 638 01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:23,120 are staffed by security because you're at risk from locals. 639 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:31,280 The locals make threats to the women. 640 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,740 They'll say when you get out of camp, I'm gonna rape you, 641 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:40,040 or they'll proposition them for sex. 642 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:45,240 A lot of the women are very scared to go into the community. 643 01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,840 (unsettling music) 644 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:17,620 - The Nauru government has declared 645 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,820 that the detention centre will become an open centre, 646 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,740 24 hours per day, seven days per week, from today. 647 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,180 It says that all asylum seekers are now free 648 01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,280 to move around the island at their will. 649 01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,100 Nauru is promising it will finalise all remaining 650 01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,420 refugee claims within the next week. 651 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:42,980 Hundreds will have to integrate 652 01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,160 into the tiny island's population. 653 01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:51,420 Can the Australian government guarantee the safety 654 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:52,740 of the people as they're released 655 01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,300 into the Nauruan communities, particularly given 656 01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:59,820 that women and children, 67 allegations of child abuse, 657 01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:03,020 33 claims of rape and sexual assault on Nauru. 658 01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,620 Can the Australian government 659 01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,420 guarantee these people's safety? 660 01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,060 - Well Emma, the Australian government, 661 01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:09,700 or the Queensland, or New South Wales, 662 01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,300 Victoria government can't provide you with that guarantee 663 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,200 for people coming out into the Australian society. 664 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,420 We've provided additional support through the 665 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,860 Australian Federal Police to mentor those police on Nauru, 666 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,460 to help with them with investigations, with prosecutions, 667 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,780 to make sure that we can provide support 668 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:33,640 to have an environment that is as safe as possible. 669 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:43,280 - People are returning home more now than they ever were, 670 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,860 returning to their country of origin and then attempting 671 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,600 to seek asylum again in a different country. 672 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,780 Nothing's changed for them in their home countries, 673 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,700 often they'll state that they 674 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,640 are returning to extreme danger. 675 01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,820 It's really hard to hear that they feel 676 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,920 like that's their only option. 677 01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:14,160 It's hard to feel proud to be an Australian citizen. 678 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,660 There's a lot of shame now associated 679 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,340 with being an Australian for myself, 680 01:19:21,440 --> 01:19:24,720 because of the way Australia's treating people. 681 01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:35,320 I keep going back for clients and for my colleagues. 682 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:42,180 You have clients when you go on your respite, say to you 683 01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,780 before you're going: "are you coming back? 684 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,980 Please come back, please don't forget 685 01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,280 about us, please don't leave us here." 686 01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:55,340 So that is really hard to hear and you wanna come back 687 01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:59,300 for them, you want something to change 688 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:03,020 and you want to advocate for them and fight for them. 689 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:08,120 And that keeps bringing you back for that feeling 690 01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,220 gets worn down by the constant blockages you get 691 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,680 from immigration and the lack of change. 692 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:32,180 - Operation wise, everything I was trying to bring to 693 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,840 the attention of management, nothing's been done about it. 694 01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,020 I got to a personal level of this 695 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,120 has got to stop and I can't stop it. 696 01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,060 I was becoming emotional, there was a lot 697 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:49,520 of stressors starting to fall upon me, 698 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,340 because I'd voiced my opinion loudly about 699 01:20:55,440 --> 01:20:57,440 what we were doing as a company. 700 01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:03,100 I found a hand-written note on my bed suggesting 701 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:08,200 that I should shut up or somehow would come to myself. 702 01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:15,480 And then I received a message that I continued on 703 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,640 that the great possibility that I would be found floating 704 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,640 alongside the HMS Choules at some stage. 705 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,560 That scared the shit out of me, that really did 706 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:35,000 and I pulled the pin, I said enough's enough. 707 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,700 It sat with me for quite a number of months 708 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,320 and if I didn't speak out, who was going to? 709 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:54,240 I've got a conscience and I was brought up the right way 710 01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,740 and I don't understand how we can do this to each other. 711 01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,540 So I felt that it was my turn, my time, 712 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,800 it was the right thing to do. 713 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,020 People need to talk out, we need 714 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,120 to tell each other what's going on. 715 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,320 (unsettling music) 716 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,180 - I think Australians are pretty sick of being lectured to. 717 01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:34,940 I really think Australians are sick 718 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:39,100 of being lectured to by the United Nations, particularly, 719 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,880 particularly given that we have stopped the boats. 720 01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,640 (despairing music) 721 01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:15,320 - [Male News Presenter] Thousands are stranded at sea, 722 01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:16,620 but the PM says he doesn't want 723 01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,800 to encourage people to risk their lives on boats. 724 01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,520 - [Female News Presenter] The Prime Minister 725 01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,060 has ruled out resettling any Rohingya asylum seekers 726 01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,620 in Australia despite claims from Malaysia 727 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,060 and Indonesia, the load to be shared among the region. 728 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,820 The United States has offered to take a lead role 729 01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,700 in resolving this crisis, we simply don't know 730 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,920 how many people are out there and they are drifting at sea. 731 01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,280 (unsettling music) 732 01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:55,740 - [Interviewer] If it was up to you now, 733 01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,500 which country would you head for? 734 01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,180 - I think all of person in the boat 735 01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,320 now want to go to Australia. 736 01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,280 (engaging music) 737 01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,200 (helicopter whirs) 738 01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:22,740 - It was the right thing to do. 739 01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,840 We didn't have an option. 740 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,640 The fact that we had been fighting in Vietnam 741 01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,280 added to the sense of obligation that I felt. 742 01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:35,980 Within hours we persuaded Malaysia 743 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,440 to establish a processing centre. 744 01:24:39,440 --> 01:24:41,900 People were processed, often quite quickly in a month 745 01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,220 or two, and if they were coming 746 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,400 to Australia they were flown to Australia. 747 01:24:47,440 --> 01:24:50,660 So there was no danger of people drowning at sea 748 01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,680 once they'd go to their processing centre in Malaysia. 749 01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:59,660 As a consequence of accepting Vietnamese refugees 750 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,540 we have a very vigorous, very loyal, 751 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:07,260 Australian Vietnamese community, which adds to our culture, 752 01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:12,360 adds to our wealth, adds to the diversity of Australia 753 01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,160 in very productive and beneficial ways. 754 01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,400 (engaging music) 755 01:25:39,480 --> 01:25:41,640 (gunfire) 756 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:56,160 (people yelling and horns honking) 757 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:04,040 (unsettling melancholic music) 758 01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:14,240 (crowd applauds and whistles) 759 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,120 (unsettling music) 760 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,820 - [Tony Abbott] Well what we do is we stop the boats, 761 01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:14,540 by hook or by crook because that's what we've got to do 762 01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:16,220 and that's what we've successfully done. 763 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,420 And I just don't want to go into 764 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,440 the details of how it's done. 765 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,800 (unsettling music) 766 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:58,160 (boat motor runs and water splashes) 767 01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,960 (unsettling music) 768 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:46,720 (dark music with piano notes) 58893

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