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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,219 --> 00:00:05,570 [BIRDS CHIRPING] 2 00:00:21,847 --> 00:00:23,849 BRAD: I was just cleaning up over here getting ready 3 00:00:23,893 --> 00:00:26,374 to make more trestles and stuff for the gutters. 4 00:00:26,852 --> 00:00:28,376 This is our vegetable garden. 5 00:00:29,290 --> 00:00:30,465 LUCY: Did anything survive? 6 00:00:31,814 --> 00:00:33,729 Uh, yeah, vegetables are all still pretty good. 7 00:00:33,772 --> 00:00:37,341 We've still got some tomatoes, and lots of good fresh lemons, 8 00:00:37,385 --> 00:00:38,821 and the pomegranates, 9 00:00:38,864 --> 00:00:41,432 and there's still some squash growing. 10 00:00:41,998 --> 00:00:44,566 This is the back deck.LUCY: Wow, paradise. 11 00:00:45,045 --> 00:00:46,568 This is my part of the paradise. 12 00:00:49,658 --> 00:00:51,529 LUCY: Oh wow, gorgeous. 13 00:00:51,573 --> 00:00:54,271 This is nice, nice, comfortable area. 14 00:00:55,272 --> 00:00:56,708 [LAUGHS] 15 00:00:56,752 --> 00:00:58,493 LUCY: I don't know what to say.I get that reaction 16 00:00:58,536 --> 00:00:59,581 from a lot of people. 17 00:01:00,103 --> 00:01:01,409 Come inside, I'll show you. 18 00:01:05,543 --> 00:01:07,632 Would you like to meet some people, Mom? 19 00:01:07,980 --> 00:01:09,939 I don't care.Okay. 20 00:01:10,374 --> 00:01:11,723 Your name again?LUCY: Lucy. 21 00:01:11,767 --> 00:01:13,943 Lucy. Mom, this is Lucy. 22 00:01:15,031 --> 00:01:16,380 LUCY: How you doing? 23 00:01:17,381 --> 00:01:21,037 Oh, I'm doing just fine. 24 00:01:21,298 --> 00:01:23,083 LUCY: How was the fire for you? 25 00:01:23,779 --> 00:01:26,651 How was the fire to me?LUCY: Hmm. 26 00:01:26,912 --> 00:01:28,740 Well, I'll clue you in. 27 00:01:30,699 --> 00:01:35,486 Being blind, I thought they had all left me. 28 00:01:36,008 --> 00:01:40,143 And then Brad came in and told me, he said, 29 00:01:40,448 --> 00:01:44,191 "I'm sorry, Mom, we're fighting a fire storm." 30 00:01:44,713 --> 00:01:45,888 And I told him, 31 00:01:45,931 --> 00:01:48,412 "I want you always to remember 32 00:01:49,152 --> 00:01:52,024 the angels are always with you." 33 00:01:52,982 --> 00:01:57,029 Do you know they had to keep the fire, flap those wings, 34 00:01:57,247 --> 00:01:58,901 keep that fire away. 35 00:01:59,858 --> 00:02:01,860 Okay. I'll be outside for a little bit, Mama. 36 00:02:02,948 --> 00:02:04,646 I love you.I Love you. 37 00:02:05,647 --> 00:02:08,519 We're still here, we didn't burn up. 38 00:02:11,174 --> 00:02:14,525 It was like it created a big firestorm over here 39 00:02:14,873 --> 00:02:16,614 and just for about four or five minutes 40 00:02:16,658 --> 00:02:18,703 it sucked the fire away from us. 41 00:02:19,574 --> 00:02:23,012 Angels. [LAUGHS] It was angels. 42 00:02:24,666 --> 00:02:25,884 Yup. 43 00:02:25,928 --> 00:02:27,930 Would have both died if that hadn't happened. 44 00:02:28,235 --> 00:02:30,324 So someone was watching for us. 45 00:02:30,367 --> 00:02:32,195 LUCY: Do-- Were you praying, were you asking-- Were you-- 46 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:34,545 who was it?I believe it was my wife. 47 00:02:38,984 --> 00:02:42,553 Yeah, she died a few years ago and I built this for her. 48 00:02:45,382 --> 00:02:46,427 So... 49 00:02:48,342 --> 00:02:49,604 wasn't gonna lose it. 50 00:02:51,823 --> 00:02:54,652 LUCY: So sorry, I'm so happy, I am so sorry. 51 00:02:54,696 --> 00:02:58,265 Yeah, oh no, I'm happy. I'm happy. 52 00:02:59,004 --> 00:03:02,573 Over here, my mom's here and safe and things are good. 53 00:03:02,617 --> 00:03:04,836 Life could be a lot worse. 54 00:03:05,359 --> 00:03:09,406 Most the people I know lost everything. 55 00:03:09,711 --> 00:03:13,367 ["“WE HAVE IT ALL"” PLAYING] 56 00:03:13,410 --> 00:03:17,980 ♪ There was fire around us So I should have known why ♪ 57 00:03:18,023 --> 00:03:22,680 ♪ The touch of his hands Were as cold as his eyes ♪ 58 00:03:22,724 --> 00:03:26,858 ♪ So don't you tell me We weren't hypnotized ♪ 59 00:03:26,902 --> 00:03:30,427 ♪ Whoa, oho 60 00:03:31,515 --> 00:03:35,737 ♪ The print was so small I didn't understand ♪ 61 00:03:36,172 --> 00:03:40,481 ♪ He cut our thumbs and placed A feather in our hands ♪ 62 00:03:40,524 --> 00:03:42,309 ♪ Told us we would see 63 00:03:42,352 --> 00:03:46,095 ♪ All our dreams And plans unfold ♪ 64 00:03:46,530 --> 00:03:48,010 ♪ Ohho 65 00:03:48,402 --> 00:03:53,407 ♪ Our hearts we have sold 66 00:03:53,450 --> 00:03:57,672 ♪ For diamonds and gold 67 00:03:57,715 --> 00:03:59,543 ♪ But hey, baby 68 00:03:59,587 --> 00:04:05,462 ♪ Take a look we have it all 69 00:04:08,204 --> 00:04:11,381 LUCY: The world is waking up to the hellish realization 70 00:04:11,425 --> 00:04:16,168 that all over this planet wildfires are burning us alive. 71 00:04:17,866 --> 00:04:20,738 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 72 00:04:24,525 --> 00:04:29,269 ♪ But haven't you heard 73 00:04:29,486 --> 00:04:32,446 ♪ Hearts turn to dirt 74 00:04:32,837 --> 00:04:36,276 ♪ Along with the rest Of your body ♪ 75 00:04:36,580 --> 00:04:39,975 ♪ It's all claimed By the earth ♪ 76 00:04:40,410 --> 00:04:45,110 MALE VOICE: ♪ It will fade And it will wither ♪ 77 00:04:46,721 --> 00:04:50,290 ♪ But gold, it will never 78 00:04:51,029 --> 00:04:52,944 ♪ And hey, baby 79 00:04:52,988 --> 00:04:58,080 ♪ Don't you know Diamonds are forever ♪ 80 00:05:01,344 --> 00:05:02,867 LUCY: My obsession with wildfire began 81 00:05:02,911 --> 00:05:04,478 when I first moved to California. 82 00:05:04,913 --> 00:05:08,482 I was confused, "Why is the hillside on fire?" 83 00:05:09,657 --> 00:05:12,312 I couldn't believe that people just kept on driving. 84 00:05:13,704 --> 00:05:16,881 I am from London and the last big fire we had there 85 00:05:16,925 --> 00:05:19,884 was the Great Fire of London in 1666. 86 00:05:20,494 --> 00:05:22,191 I thought fire was a medieval problem, 87 00:05:22,234 --> 00:05:23,714 not a modern one.[HELICOPTER BLADES WHIRRING] 88 00:05:23,758 --> 00:05:26,413 [PANTING][INDISTINCT CHATTER] 89 00:05:26,456 --> 00:05:28,632 LUCY: Then the biggest fire in California history 90 00:05:28,676 --> 00:05:30,417 came along in 2017 91 00:05:30,721 --> 00:05:32,506 and I thought, "All right, 92 00:05:32,767 --> 00:05:35,030 somebody's got to make a film about this one." 93 00:05:35,073 --> 00:05:36,901 But I'd only just gotten started 94 00:05:36,945 --> 00:05:38,642 when there was another even bigger one. 95 00:05:39,426 --> 00:05:40,992 What was going on? 96 00:05:41,863 --> 00:05:43,473 To hell with an individual fire. 97 00:05:43,995 --> 00:05:46,694 I vowed not to stop until I got all the way 98 00:05:46,737 --> 00:05:49,740 to the bottom of why these fires keep on happening 99 00:05:50,437 --> 00:05:52,787 and that's why we came to be embedded 100 00:05:52,830 --> 00:05:54,832 with firefighters on what turned out to be 101 00:05:54,876 --> 00:05:57,835 the deadliest day for fires ever in California. 102 00:05:57,879 --> 00:06:00,011 MAEVE: I mean, fucking hell. It's hot.[INDISTINCT CHATTER] 103 00:06:00,055 --> 00:06:02,753 MAEVE: Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. 104 00:06:04,015 --> 00:06:06,322 Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. 105 00:06:07,149 --> 00:06:08,803 It's fucking heat, it's the whole ridge, 106 00:06:08,846 --> 00:06:10,065 it's the whole ridge. 107 00:06:11,632 --> 00:06:13,155 LUCY: In one day, the whole story 108 00:06:13,198 --> 00:06:14,939 of why we're here now played out 109 00:06:15,462 --> 00:06:17,028 and it has all the pieces. 110 00:06:17,377 --> 00:06:21,337 Love, loss, liberty, capitalism, class, and crime. 111 00:06:21,816 --> 00:06:24,514 But it isn't the story I expected to be telling. 112 00:06:24,993 --> 00:06:27,996 I had expected heroism and I found even more. 113 00:06:28,997 --> 00:06:31,391 But what I hadn't expected was hope. 114 00:06:32,566 --> 00:06:34,785 Because we can do something about this problem. 115 00:06:36,004 --> 00:06:37,745 Fire is a natural phenomenon. 116 00:06:38,485 --> 00:06:41,052 These wildfires, however, are not. 117 00:06:42,227 --> 00:06:47,711 [MUSIC PLAYING] 118 00:06:49,583 --> 00:06:51,193 MATT: The wind was stronger than normal. 119 00:06:51,498 --> 00:06:54,109 It was just stronger. Woke me up that morning. 120 00:06:55,066 --> 00:06:56,372 I saw the fire... 121 00:06:58,113 --> 00:06:59,984 time kind of stood still there for a minute. 122 00:07:01,029 --> 00:07:04,554 I took a quick picture of it. It's 6:48 in the morning. 123 00:07:04,815 --> 00:07:06,687 And then I gave my report on conditions. 124 00:07:06,730 --> 00:07:09,080 I knew it was gonna be a bad one. 125 00:07:10,691 --> 00:07:13,520 We have our eyes on the vegetation fire. 126 00:07:13,563 --> 00:07:15,522 It's gonna be very difficult to access 127 00:07:15,565 --> 00:07:17,132 underneath the transmission line. 128 00:07:17,524 --> 00:07:19,090 But it's heading in the direction 129 00:07:19,134 --> 00:07:20,135 of towards Concow lake. 130 00:07:21,484 --> 00:07:25,488 I go down the road and I see a giant blowtorch 131 00:07:25,532 --> 00:07:26,837 going across the canyon. 132 00:07:28,535 --> 00:07:31,015 I went on the community Facebook page 133 00:07:31,059 --> 00:07:34,497 and just put down there, "Evacuate, run for your life!" 134 00:07:34,541 --> 00:07:37,152 OFFICER: 135 00:07:41,983 --> 00:07:43,593 LARRY: I turned around and looked at the window, 136 00:07:43,637 --> 00:07:45,552 there was these dark gray clouds. 137 00:07:45,595 --> 00:07:48,119 My wife was in the front room on the floor, 138 00:07:48,163 --> 00:07:49,599 'cause her mother had spilled a cup of coffee. 139 00:07:49,947 --> 00:07:52,820 And she's trying to clean it up. So we had to get out now. 140 00:07:52,863 --> 00:07:55,387 I said, "You got three minutes or we're gonna be dead." 141 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:59,043 And I couldn't see the hood of my car, 142 00:07:59,087 --> 00:08:00,697 the smoke was so thick, 143 00:08:01,002 --> 00:08:03,308 I just shot in the middle of the flames. 144 00:08:03,352 --> 00:08:06,268 The neighbors were about ten minutes behind me 145 00:08:06,311 --> 00:08:08,357 and a tree had already fallen across on that road. 146 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,663 They couldn't get out. 147 00:08:09,967 --> 00:08:12,056 Dozens of people have died in this fire. 148 00:08:12,100 --> 00:08:14,581 Twelve of 'em were up here. Two on this road. 149 00:08:15,712 --> 00:08:16,757 Yeah. 150 00:08:17,322 --> 00:08:21,022 MALE VOICE: 151 00:08:22,806 --> 00:08:25,983 MALE VOICE 2: 152 00:08:26,331 --> 00:08:28,159 MALE VOICE: 153 00:08:28,769 --> 00:08:31,249 MALE VOICE 2: 154 00:08:35,036 --> 00:08:37,734 ALLYN: There were 67 patients in the hospital that day. 155 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,521 Evacuation warnings didn't happen. 156 00:08:43,044 --> 00:08:44,175 TAMARA: I went to my patient's room 157 00:08:45,829 --> 00:08:46,438 and I said, "We need to go now." And she started looking around. 158 00:08:47,527 --> 00:08:47,962 And I said, "No, just grab your baby." 159 00:08:49,616 --> 00:08:51,052 RACHELLE: But I still had a catheter from surgery. 160 00:08:51,095 --> 00:08:55,273 Two lines with bags. I can't run. I can't even walk. 161 00:08:56,100 --> 00:09:00,670 [RADIO BEEPING]OFFICER: 162 00:09:02,672 --> 00:09:04,761 RACHELLE: There were no ambulances available. 163 00:09:05,501 --> 00:09:07,068 There was a little Nissan 164 00:09:07,677 --> 00:09:09,984 and they lifted me up and put me in the seat. 165 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:13,988 They put the IV bag and stuff on the floor. 166 00:09:14,336 --> 00:09:16,991 And then handed me the baby in the front seat of the car. 167 00:09:17,513 --> 00:09:21,909 [RADIO BEEPING]OFFICER 2: 168 00:09:23,084 --> 00:09:24,564 ALLYN: As the last patients were getting in, 169 00:09:24,825 --> 00:09:26,827 fire's breaking out on the campus. 170 00:09:28,611 --> 00:09:30,482 MALE VOICE: I am at Feather River Hospital. 171 00:09:30,526 --> 00:09:32,049 There's fire down on both sides here. 172 00:09:32,093 --> 00:09:33,790 It's all blocked down here. There's no way to go down here. 173 00:09:36,837 --> 00:09:39,666 MARY: When I got to school, one mother came in 174 00:09:39,709 --> 00:09:42,625 and she really scared me. 175 00:09:42,930 --> 00:09:46,368 She looked at me and she goes, "Get these kids out of here. 176 00:09:46,411 --> 00:09:50,372 It's bad." And so I started pulling the kids out to the bus. 177 00:09:53,593 --> 00:09:57,118 And you go to work and you think you're gonna teach about bats. 178 00:09:57,161 --> 00:09:59,250 That's how quickly you're in a...[FINGER SNAPPING] 179 00:10:02,123 --> 00:10:03,864 ...life or death situation. 180 00:10:05,169 --> 00:10:07,128 FRANK: You got 30 seconds to get out of your house. 181 00:10:07,389 --> 00:10:09,347 What are you gonna grab?Take my two guns 182 00:10:09,391 --> 00:10:13,134 that I carry all the time and put 'em in the basket 183 00:10:13,177 --> 00:10:14,614 of my four-wheeler and that was it. 184 00:10:14,918 --> 00:10:17,529 I didn't even have my ammunition, just the guns. 185 00:10:18,443 --> 00:10:20,663 ROBERT: Tried the car facing the right direction 186 00:10:20,707 --> 00:10:25,059 loaded with belongings, but the heat came so quickly, 187 00:10:25,102 --> 00:10:28,410 so intensely, I had to leave my car behind. 188 00:10:29,150 --> 00:10:32,675 I decided to run into the nearest swimming pool. 189 00:10:32,719 --> 00:10:33,981 Create a buffer for myself. 190 00:10:34,242 --> 00:10:37,288 I did a quick look behind me, it's gone. 191 00:10:38,812 --> 00:10:40,727 OPERATOR: 192 00:10:40,770 --> 00:10:43,817 FEMALE VOICE: 193 00:10:43,860 --> 00:10:47,734 OPERATOR: 194 00:10:49,779 --> 00:10:54,088 FEMALE VOICE: 195 00:10:54,871 --> 00:10:56,568 OPERATOR: 196 00:10:56,917 --> 00:10:59,615 We were sleeping and then I heard the neighbor and all. 197 00:10:59,963 --> 00:11:02,531 And everything's black likeWar of the Worlds. 198 00:11:02,749 --> 00:11:04,707 It's like we really have to leave now, 199 00:11:04,751 --> 00:11:06,100 but my mom wouldn't come. 200 00:11:07,667 --> 00:11:09,364 She didn't think it was an official evacuation order 201 00:11:09,407 --> 00:11:11,192 and these other people and she's telling, 202 00:11:11,235 --> 00:11:12,715 we didn't get orders either. 203 00:11:13,934 --> 00:11:17,546 I just kinda panicked like I can't convince her. 204 00:11:18,068 --> 00:11:20,941 I drove out and I was devastated, 205 00:11:20,984 --> 00:11:23,378 I had everything I needed except my mom. 206 00:11:24,031 --> 00:11:25,380 LAUREN: Communications were down. 207 00:11:25,641 --> 00:11:27,904 Internet was down, power was off. 208 00:11:27,948 --> 00:11:30,951 No one knew how fast and how furious 209 00:11:31,255 --> 00:11:33,431 that fire was coming at us. 210 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,305 SEAN: It was a billion embers. 211 00:11:37,348 --> 00:11:38,741 And every one of those embers started a fire. 212 00:11:39,437 --> 00:11:41,135 OPERATOR:FEMALE VOICE: 213 00:11:41,439 --> 00:11:43,311 OPERATOR: 214 00:11:43,572 --> 00:11:47,532 FEMALE VOICE 2:OPERATOR: 215 00:11:47,576 --> 00:11:50,753 MALE VOICE:OPERATOR: 216 00:11:50,797 --> 00:11:53,103 MALE VOICE:OPERATOR: 217 00:11:53,147 --> 00:11:56,063 OPERATOR:FEMALE VOICE 3: 218 00:11:56,106 --> 00:11:58,500 OPERATOR: 219 00:11:58,848 --> 00:12:00,763 So I climb out of the pool and there's a car. 220 00:12:00,807 --> 00:12:02,243 Might be keys in the car. 221 00:12:02,809 --> 00:12:04,724 There's people in the car, "What are you doing?" 222 00:12:04,767 --> 00:12:06,987 FEMALE VOICE: I can't see in front of me.MALE VOICE: 1: I know. 223 00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:08,162 They went, "We can't see." 224 00:12:08,205 --> 00:12:09,990 "Well, I can see, get the fuck over." 225 00:12:10,251 --> 00:12:11,687 I was really jacked up by then 226 00:12:12,557 --> 00:12:15,038 and then old guy walked out of one of the condos. 227 00:12:15,082 --> 00:12:17,693 I'm going, "Has nobody done a door to door here?" 228 00:12:18,215 --> 00:12:20,391 And it's about 40, 50 homes over here and I'm going, 229 00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:22,742 "Uh, okay", no one left behind type of thing. 230 00:12:23,046 --> 00:12:25,483 [SIREN BLARING] 231 00:12:25,527 --> 00:12:26,963 JOE: So I drove by my street 232 00:12:27,007 --> 00:12:29,531 and saw that my house was destroyed. 233 00:12:29,966 --> 00:12:31,838 Just went back to work. 234 00:12:33,796 --> 00:12:36,451 BRAD: It was coming so fast and so strong, 235 00:12:36,494 --> 00:12:37,887 I got our little garden hose in hand. 236 00:12:38,583 --> 00:12:40,063 I don't know how I could describe it, 237 00:12:40,107 --> 00:12:42,283 it's like fighting an elephant with a piece of spaghetti. 238 00:12:43,850 --> 00:12:45,199 Felt like we had sunburn. 239 00:12:45,242 --> 00:12:46,896 You know, you felt like your face was gonna peel, 240 00:12:46,940 --> 00:12:48,332 it was so hot. 241 00:12:48,637 --> 00:12:49,899 MARY: We turn the corner 242 00:12:51,379 --> 00:12:52,554 and we are immediately already trapped in traffic 243 00:12:52,597 --> 00:12:54,948 and they're already fires all over the place. 244 00:12:55,296 --> 00:12:58,821 The entire event was one giant parking lot. 245 00:12:58,865 --> 00:13:00,214 [TIRES SCREECHING] 246 00:13:00,518 --> 00:13:03,739 MALE VOICE:: Go!FEMALE VOICE: Go! 247 00:13:04,392 --> 00:13:06,655 MALE VOICE: 248 00:13:06,698 --> 00:13:09,658 FEMALE VOICE:OPERATOR: 249 00:13:09,701 --> 00:13:13,836 FEMALE VOICE:OPERATOR: 250 00:13:14,619 --> 00:13:16,143 MALE VOICE 2: Keep your window up, guys. 251 00:13:16,186 --> 00:13:18,058 BRAD: There was people trying to push each other 252 00:13:18,101 --> 00:13:21,061 off the road to get out of here. It was pandemonium. 253 00:13:21,496 --> 00:13:24,281 MALE VOICE 2: Come on, people, let's fuck out of here.[WOMAN 2 GRUNTS] 254 00:13:24,325 --> 00:13:25,761 MALE VOICE 2: Time to effin go. 255 00:13:25,979 --> 00:13:27,894 It's a full intersection and all directions 256 00:13:28,285 --> 00:13:29,852 were completely blocked with traffic. 257 00:13:29,896 --> 00:13:32,028 The fire was gonna impact all those people. 258 00:13:32,072 --> 00:13:35,553 OFFICER: 259 00:13:35,858 --> 00:13:36,859 FEMALE VOICE: Oh fuck! 260 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,556 JOSH: Nobody could go anywhere. 261 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,558 Fire was burning inside the cars. 262 00:13:40,602 --> 00:13:43,170 People were just in fear, in shock 263 00:13:43,213 --> 00:13:44,388 and didn't know what was going on. 264 00:13:44,780 --> 00:13:47,435 So there's a huge feeling of helplessness, 265 00:13:47,478 --> 00:13:49,916 'cause the fire is just kicking our ass. 266 00:13:51,308 --> 00:13:54,921 REBECCA: I don't wanna die here. I don't want to die. 267 00:13:59,577 --> 00:14:02,102 LUCY: It's hard to believe that the Camp Fire in Paradise 268 00:14:02,145 --> 00:14:05,845 was only one of four major fires in California that day. 269 00:14:07,716 --> 00:14:10,806 In southern California, the Woolsey Fire was taking off 270 00:14:10,850 --> 00:14:12,242 and headed for Malibu. 271 00:14:12,286 --> 00:14:15,245 REBECCA: Oh my God. Please God, please. Oh my God. 272 00:14:15,289 --> 00:14:17,378 LUCY: It was the opposite end of the state. 273 00:14:17,421 --> 00:14:19,641 The opposite end of the political spectrum 274 00:14:19,946 --> 00:14:22,383 and the opposite end of the economic spectrum. 275 00:14:22,426 --> 00:14:24,341 REBECCA: Please God, please. 276 00:14:24,385 --> 00:14:26,691 LUCY: The median home price in Paradise...[REBECCA GASPS] 277 00:14:26,735 --> 00:14:28,737 ...was around 200,000 dollars. 278 00:14:29,433 --> 00:14:32,393 In Malibu, it was over two million dollars. 279 00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:34,830 Paradise tends to vote Republican. 280 00:14:35,222 --> 00:14:37,354 Malibu always votes Democrat. 281 00:14:38,094 --> 00:14:40,314 But all our skin burns just the same. 282 00:14:41,619 --> 00:14:43,795 When you're in hell...REBECCA: Oh my God, please God... 283 00:14:43,839 --> 00:14:45,232 ...you're in hell....oh my God. 284 00:14:45,754 --> 00:14:47,321 Oh my God. Please get me out of here. 285 00:14:48,017 --> 00:14:49,105 Please God. 286 00:14:51,803 --> 00:14:56,417 [HELICOPTER BLADES WHIRRING] 287 00:14:56,721 --> 00:14:59,594 Air Attack Division November Command. 288 00:14:59,942 --> 00:15:02,162 PILOT: Okay, copy that. I'll try to get the helicopter around. 289 00:15:02,205 --> 00:15:03,815 Okay, I'll see you at some point. 290 00:15:05,121 --> 00:15:06,993 It's dangerous I mean we're out...[INDISTINCT CHATTER] 291 00:15:07,036 --> 00:15:08,646 ...ahead of the fire right now, right. 292 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,998 We've had firefighter fatalities in this area, 293 00:15:12,041 --> 00:15:15,175 because of the wind shifting on you. 294 00:15:16,828 --> 00:15:18,569 You're constantly on alert 295 00:15:18,613 --> 00:15:21,007 trying to assess what's going on. 296 00:15:21,877 --> 00:15:23,923 It's a big Rubik's Cube and you're just trying to solve 297 00:15:23,966 --> 00:15:26,490 the puzzle and figure out how to connect the dots 298 00:15:26,534 --> 00:15:27,665 and put the fire out. 299 00:15:30,538 --> 00:15:31,974 So there's our air tanker. 300 00:15:32,018 --> 00:15:35,195 He's working on, dropping retarding on my line. 301 00:15:35,238 --> 00:15:38,850 [INDISTINCT CHATTER][AIRPLANE ENGINE WHIRRING] 302 00:15:39,199 --> 00:15:43,072 [MUSIC PLAYING] 303 00:15:43,377 --> 00:15:46,119 [INDISTINCT CHATTER][SIREN BLARES] 304 00:15:48,034 --> 00:15:49,861 MARSHALL: My dad was a colonel in the marines. 305 00:15:49,905 --> 00:15:51,733 And now he's captain of the fire department. 306 00:15:52,386 --> 00:15:53,909 He's also the mayor of Malibu. 307 00:15:54,518 --> 00:15:56,346 My dad and I had set up this fire system 308 00:15:56,390 --> 00:15:58,131 where we have a big tank in the backyard. 309 00:15:58,522 --> 00:16:01,830 And so that morning, my dad put his hand on my shoulder. 310 00:16:01,873 --> 00:16:04,876 He's all in his fear gear and he said, "Don't leave." 311 00:16:05,138 --> 00:16:06,922 And then he had to go. You know, he has duties, 312 00:16:06,966 --> 00:16:08,358 so I was kinda like, "Wait, stay here. 313 00:16:08,402 --> 00:16:09,838 [CHUCKLES] We need you." 314 00:16:09,881 --> 00:16:12,101 Today's the very last day of the temporary workforce 315 00:16:12,145 --> 00:16:14,277 for the Forest Service. Everyone's getting laid off today. 316 00:16:14,799 --> 00:16:16,801 We don't have our workforce, we don't have our hotshot crews. 317 00:16:16,845 --> 00:16:19,326 Usually, I have superintendents that are driving around with me 318 00:16:19,369 --> 00:16:21,415 and we're going into these canyons, 319 00:16:21,458 --> 00:16:23,025 and getting up high, and looking down, 320 00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:24,722 and coming up with a plan. 321 00:16:26,724 --> 00:16:28,813 And yet again, two years in a row, 322 00:16:28,857 --> 00:16:31,294 we're caught with our pants down with no workforce 323 00:16:31,729 --> 00:16:33,644 and an end of the season fire. 324 00:16:33,688 --> 00:16:36,386 [HELICOPTER BLADES WHIRRING] 325 00:16:36,430 --> 00:16:37,735 MAEVE: California just mobilized 326 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,824 a ton of our firefighters up north 327 00:16:40,390 --> 00:16:42,958 and then all of a sudden everyone had to shift gears 328 00:16:43,002 --> 00:16:44,829 and fight this fire that was down here. 329 00:16:45,743 --> 00:16:48,094 Either I send helicopters there to save that one 330 00:16:48,137 --> 00:16:50,226 or I work 'em through here and that saves 331 00:16:50,966 --> 00:16:53,142 the other 50 homes on the way up. 332 00:16:53,577 --> 00:16:56,928 You're left making shitty decisions, you know, 333 00:16:56,972 --> 00:16:59,583 that you don't wanna make. 334 00:17:04,066 --> 00:17:07,765 MALE VOICE: No fire engines. Fire everywhere. 335 00:17:07,809 --> 00:17:09,028 Holy shit. 336 00:17:09,071 --> 00:17:10,594 FEMALE VOICE: There's no fire trucks up here. 337 00:17:10,638 --> 00:17:11,900 Where's all the fire trucks? 338 00:17:11,943 --> 00:17:17,036 MALE VOICE 2: 339 00:17:17,340 --> 00:17:18,515 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 340 00:17:20,126 --> 00:17:20,996 MALE VOICE 3: The wind's picked up and there are embers. 341 00:17:22,345 --> 00:17:23,651 Fires are starting left and right. 342 00:17:25,653 --> 00:17:27,394 CANDACE: They stopped me and they said, "We'll escort you. 343 00:17:27,437 --> 00:17:29,091 And I said, "Why?" 344 00:17:29,135 --> 00:17:31,180 Try and be nice.And they said, "Fire on both sides. 345 00:17:31,224 --> 00:17:33,530 It's really dangerous." I would not evacuate. 346 00:17:33,878 --> 00:17:37,273 The idea was I would be inside and he would be outside. 347 00:17:37,665 --> 00:17:40,233 As you can see a 50,000 gallon pool 348 00:17:40,842 --> 00:17:42,583 and I finally got the pump working. 349 00:17:43,279 --> 00:17:47,718 But there was so much material in the pool, the siphon clogged. 350 00:17:48,632 --> 00:17:51,331 THOR: We got a minute or two over on this side 351 00:17:51,374 --> 00:17:52,984 and shoveled dirt on it 352 00:17:53,028 --> 00:17:55,335 and then the next one would start. 353 00:17:55,726 --> 00:17:57,859 There's no adrenaline going. You're past adrenaline. 354 00:17:58,642 --> 00:18:00,644 You're in survival win. 355 00:18:04,518 --> 00:18:06,433 JOHN: It was like a fire tornado. 356 00:18:06,476 --> 00:18:08,696 The thing was like 400 feet tall. 357 00:18:09,131 --> 00:18:11,960 Spinning. I never seen anything like it. 358 00:18:12,656 --> 00:18:13,962 FEMALE VOICE: Let's get outta here. 359 00:18:15,181 --> 00:18:16,269 This whole row, 360 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,662 it's sort of like what you would see 361 00:18:18,706 --> 00:18:20,708 in the Midwest after a tornado. 362 00:18:25,843 --> 00:18:28,107 CRAIG: It pulled us off with our feet towards it 363 00:18:28,411 --> 00:18:32,981 and it was circulating debris 200 or 300 feet in the air 364 00:18:33,024 --> 00:18:37,159 and I'm talking like pieces of corrugated iron, 365 00:18:37,420 --> 00:18:39,161 whole pieces of tree 366 00:18:39,205 --> 00:18:42,121 like some kind of monster or a demon. 367 00:18:44,210 --> 00:18:49,389 I just felt my legs going. You know, like I'm out, I'm out. 368 00:18:50,912 --> 00:18:53,132 JEFFERSON: Your heart sinks to a spot. 369 00:18:54,089 --> 00:18:55,221 Thirty years of mortgage payments 370 00:18:55,264 --> 00:18:56,961 and five years to build the place. 371 00:18:57,353 --> 00:19:00,095 [SOBS] I'm sorry. 372 00:19:02,053 --> 00:19:05,448 Watching the second floor fall onto the first floor. 373 00:19:05,753 --> 00:19:07,494 That seemed to be a heartbreak for me. 374 00:19:07,537 --> 00:19:10,627 There was like kind of a thing around here that 375 00:19:10,671 --> 00:19:12,020 the Point doesn't burn 376 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,807 and... [CHUCKLES] ...we were fucking wrong. 377 00:19:17,112 --> 00:19:19,506 The big second wave came through and I was like 378 00:19:20,071 --> 00:19:21,247 this could be the end of it. 379 00:19:23,118 --> 00:19:24,859 MALE VOICE: Dad, get back. Let's go. 380 00:19:25,381 --> 00:19:28,776 Get behind the fucking house. Get behind the house! 381 00:19:30,995 --> 00:19:32,562 MARSHALL: I am a professional cyclist, 382 00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:34,956 so I was prepared to run for 15 hours straight. 383 00:19:34,999 --> 00:19:36,827 But my legs were just shredded. 384 00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:38,873 My friend looked at me and he's like, 385 00:19:38,916 --> 00:19:40,440 "We're surrounded by fire. 386 00:19:40,788 --> 00:19:42,355 All your neighbor's houses are on fire. 387 00:19:42,398 --> 00:19:44,357 We need to leave." He's like, "You're gonna die." 388 00:19:46,228 --> 00:19:49,144 I heard my dad's words in the back of my mind, 389 00:19:49,188 --> 00:19:50,624 "Don't leave." He's like, 390 00:19:50,667 --> 00:19:52,321 "If we lose the house, we're fucked." 391 00:19:54,410 --> 00:19:55,803 It was emotional, I didn't really know 392 00:19:55,846 --> 00:19:57,718 what to do, I was like honor my dad 393 00:19:57,761 --> 00:19:59,763 or listen to my friend who's telling me I'm gonna die. 394 00:20:00,634 --> 00:20:05,943 [CHUCKLES][MUSIC PLAYING] 395 00:20:15,953 --> 00:20:18,304 SEAN: I started seeing people coming down the Skyway 396 00:20:18,347 --> 00:20:21,437 carrying children, dogs, suitcases. 397 00:20:21,785 --> 00:20:24,658 There were people who had burns and I was just yelling at 'em. 398 00:20:24,701 --> 00:20:27,051 "Just keep going down the hill. Go into the Walgreen, 399 00:20:27,095 --> 00:20:28,401 so I have firefighters waiting for you." 400 00:20:30,054 --> 00:20:32,405 I had told the guys we're gonna use it as temporary refuge area 401 00:20:32,666 --> 00:20:34,320 and whatever you do, 402 00:20:34,363 --> 00:20:36,147 "Do not let that building burn down." 403 00:20:36,191 --> 00:20:38,672 [SIREN WAILING][INDISTINCT CHATTER] 404 00:20:42,806 --> 00:20:44,547 SEAN: And to be honest, I wasn't convinced 405 00:20:44,591 --> 00:20:45,896 it was going to work. 406 00:20:45,940 --> 00:20:48,334 It was just that it was the only option we had. 407 00:20:48,377 --> 00:20:50,727 Once I pull these guys off protecting this building, 408 00:20:51,075 --> 00:20:53,121 we're gonna go and start trying to save all your homes. 409 00:20:53,643 --> 00:20:55,558 I think we ended up with like a hundred people in there 410 00:20:55,950 --> 00:20:58,082 and the fire came, and it came really hard. 411 00:21:00,084 --> 00:21:01,608 [SIREN BLARING] 412 00:21:01,999 --> 00:21:05,525 OFFICER: 413 00:21:06,308 --> 00:21:08,571 SEAN: We had massive explosions going on. 414 00:21:08,615 --> 00:21:10,834 [EXPLOSION] 415 00:21:11,182 --> 00:21:13,533 It shook the ground you were standing on. 416 00:21:16,013 --> 00:21:20,757 Everyone has ammunition and it sounded like a war zone. 417 00:21:26,067 --> 00:21:28,069 Grown men holding their children's hands 418 00:21:28,112 --> 00:21:29,288 began crying. 419 00:21:29,766 --> 00:21:32,421 You go them and say, "I know what you feel. 420 00:21:32,465 --> 00:21:34,554 But you gotta cut it out and you have to cut it out 421 00:21:34,597 --> 00:21:36,120 right now, because it's contagious." 422 00:21:43,171 --> 00:21:45,565 MALE VOICE:MALE VOICE 2: 423 00:21:51,092 --> 00:21:53,137 OPERATOR: Okay, and he still can't get out? 424 00:21:53,181 --> 00:21:54,269 MALE VOICE 2: 425 00:21:55,531 --> 00:21:56,706 OPERATOR: Are you trapped?MALE VOICE: 426 00:21:59,666 --> 00:22:00,971 OPERATOR: Okay, ma'am, 427 00:22:01,015 --> 00:22:02,321 you need to get out of the house. 428 00:22:02,625 --> 00:22:03,757 FEMALE VOICE: 429 00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:07,326 Please. 430 00:22:10,198 --> 00:22:11,765 Oh my God. 431 00:22:18,989 --> 00:22:21,165 JESSIE: And I've never heard anybody scream like that before. 432 00:22:23,516 --> 00:22:26,693 Looking back, you know why they were screaming. 433 00:22:27,084 --> 00:22:28,651 They're burning alive. 434 00:22:34,570 --> 00:22:37,617 I saw people being burned alive in their cars, trailers, 435 00:22:37,660 --> 00:22:39,445 their motorcycles laying on the ground. 436 00:22:39,488 --> 00:22:41,795 Like just people fleeing for their lives. 437 00:22:44,624 --> 00:22:47,278 There was burned up bodies in the traffic jam. 438 00:22:47,627 --> 00:22:50,717 Skeletons. That's all that was left. 439 00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:54,547 FEMALE VOICE: Somebody, help![CAR HORN HONKING] 440 00:22:55,896 --> 00:22:57,419 RACHELLE: The window's hot and I'm hot. 441 00:22:57,811 --> 00:23:00,030 The baby's hot. I dumped a little water on him 442 00:23:00,074 --> 00:23:02,946 and rubbed his head. The driver's out of the car 443 00:23:02,990 --> 00:23:04,295 and I called my dad and I said, 444 00:23:04,339 --> 00:23:06,994 "Dad, I'm in a fire and I can't get out. 445 00:23:07,037 --> 00:23:08,604 There's people getting out of their cars 446 00:23:08,648 --> 00:23:09,910 and they're running. 447 00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:11,564 And I can't run. 448 00:23:12,129 --> 00:23:13,522 I can't even hardly feel my legs. 449 00:23:13,566 --> 00:23:14,697 I can't even stand up 450 00:23:14,741 --> 00:23:16,438 and I've got this baby on my lap. 451 00:23:17,787 --> 00:23:19,180 And I don't know what to do. 452 00:23:19,223 --> 00:23:21,574 What do I do? I don't wanna die! 453 00:23:22,792 --> 00:23:25,708 [SOBBING] 454 00:23:25,752 --> 00:23:29,582 When the driver got back in the car, he said, 455 00:23:30,104 --> 00:23:32,454 "If we have to get out of the car and go, 456 00:23:32,498 --> 00:23:33,847 what do you want me to do?" 457 00:23:36,066 --> 00:23:38,634 And I said, "I just want you to take the baby and run. 458 00:23:38,678 --> 00:23:41,115 If you have to run, just take him and go." 459 00:23:46,381 --> 00:23:49,906 ALLYN: My car is being burned and I saw the side-mirror 460 00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:51,125 just starting to melt. 461 00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:55,695 That's when I thought like it's over. 462 00:23:56,347 --> 00:23:59,916 I wrote my wife and said, "I just want you guys to know 463 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:01,744 I did everything I possibly could 464 00:24:01,788 --> 00:24:04,094 to get out of this to see you again 465 00:24:04,138 --> 00:24:05,444 and that I love you." 466 00:24:06,009 --> 00:24:08,316 I said, "There's fire on both sides of the road. 467 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,013 The house next to me is on fire. 468 00:24:10,492 --> 00:24:12,451 I'm not gonna make it. Just pray with me. 469 00:24:13,277 --> 00:24:15,889 Heavenly Father, please help us. 470 00:24:16,542 --> 00:24:21,460 FEMALE VOICE: 471 00:24:22,243 --> 00:24:23,592 ALLYN: Some of my colleagues behind me, 472 00:24:23,636 --> 00:24:24,941 their car stalled out, 473 00:24:24,985 --> 00:24:26,073 'cause the oxygen was literally being 474 00:24:26,116 --> 00:24:27,683 cooked out of the air. 475 00:24:27,727 --> 00:24:29,859 They ended up trying to walk back up the road. 476 00:24:30,512 --> 00:24:34,429 OPERATOR: 477 00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:35,648 FEMALE VOICE: 478 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,564 JOE: I overheard some radio traffic that a dozer 479 00:24:38,607 --> 00:24:40,217 might be able to help move some of the burning cars 480 00:24:40,261 --> 00:24:42,089 and protect the people stuck on the road. 481 00:24:42,393 --> 00:24:44,047 The cars on left side of the road 482 00:24:44,091 --> 00:24:45,484 were engulfed in flames 483 00:24:45,527 --> 00:24:47,834 and starting to explode and threaten the vehicles 484 00:24:47,877 --> 00:24:50,184 next to them. I encountered the nurses 485 00:24:50,227 --> 00:24:51,968 and law enforcement officers on foot. 486 00:24:52,012 --> 00:24:53,970 MALE VOICE:OFFICER: 487 00:24:54,405 --> 00:24:56,756 They were incredibly panicked, rightfully so. 488 00:24:57,452 --> 00:25:00,281 At this point, everything surrounding us was on fire. 489 00:25:01,151 --> 00:25:02,762 Almost every vehicle on that road 490 00:25:03,066 --> 00:25:04,894 had people taking refuge in 'em. 491 00:25:05,242 --> 00:25:07,114 A hundred cars, maybe more. 492 00:25:07,593 --> 00:25:08,637 The looks on their faces, 493 00:25:08,681 --> 00:25:10,073 they were sure they were gonna die. 494 00:25:11,422 --> 00:25:13,424 I've never seen that look on anybody's face. 495 00:25:14,382 --> 00:25:16,906 FEMALE VOICE: [SOBS] Oh my God.MALE VOICE: It's all that's important. 496 00:25:18,473 --> 00:25:20,780 JOE: The heat broke the windows of my dozer 497 00:25:20,823 --> 00:25:22,782 and I knew I was running out of time. 498 00:25:23,217 --> 00:25:24,914 And I was now endangering myself. 499 00:25:27,177 --> 00:25:29,266 I don't believe I could've let myself stand back 500 00:25:29,310 --> 00:25:31,791 and watch those vehicles and people burn up. 501 00:25:31,834 --> 00:25:36,578 I was perfectly willing to move forward and risk myself 502 00:25:36,622 --> 00:25:37,666 for those people. 503 00:25:39,973 --> 00:25:41,191 Right around that time like 504 00:25:41,235 --> 00:25:43,629 I hear this like kind of bang.[EXPLOSION] 505 00:25:44,368 --> 00:25:45,892 [TIRES SCREECHING] 506 00:25:45,935 --> 00:25:48,503 And this bulldozer had knocked this truck almost the size 507 00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:49,809 of mine like out of the way. 508 00:25:49,852 --> 00:25:51,114 Like you're kicking over a shoebox. 509 00:25:52,594 --> 00:25:53,769 And I've got a path like to turn around. 510 00:25:53,813 --> 00:25:56,511 [CAR ENGINE REVVING] 511 00:26:08,436 --> 00:26:11,831 [HELICOPTER BLADES WHIRRING] 512 00:26:13,093 --> 00:26:16,575 I've never been so happy to see a sunny sky. [LAUGHS] 513 00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:30,937 MAEVE: I'm exhausted. 514 00:26:31,459 --> 00:26:32,808 I've been out here for... 515 00:26:33,635 --> 00:26:39,075 28, 29 hours, 30 hours, something like that. 516 00:26:39,772 --> 00:26:42,383 If you're sleeping behind the curb 517 00:26:43,210 --> 00:26:45,212 and meanwhile someone's house is burning down. 518 00:26:45,255 --> 00:26:46,909 This is why you don't take naps. 519 00:26:49,346 --> 00:26:51,131 No. 520 00:26:51,174 --> 00:26:53,220 There's a lot of horses in there. 521 00:26:53,263 --> 00:26:57,616 [INDISTINCT CHATTER]Oh, I'm so sorry, horses. 522 00:26:58,747 --> 00:27:04,535 [MUSIC PLAYING] 523 00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:11,238 I remember just like peeking through this smudgy dark windows 524 00:27:11,281 --> 00:27:12,805 out over the canyon 525 00:27:13,588 --> 00:27:14,981 and I was just wondering I was like, 526 00:27:15,024 --> 00:27:17,026 "I think all of Malibu burned down." 527 00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:22,728 SAM: For about three days we stayed up all night. 528 00:27:22,771 --> 00:27:26,209 It was so anxious-ridden and we knew the fire 529 00:27:26,253 --> 00:27:27,776 was still so active. 530 00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:30,779 We've been given the name of the Point Dume Bombers. 531 00:27:30,823 --> 00:27:33,826 The name of the little surf crew down here. 532 00:27:33,869 --> 00:27:36,437 We did save a lot of homes. 533 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,396 And to be completely honest I have no fucking idea 534 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,702 how we pulled it off. 535 00:27:40,746 --> 00:27:42,269 Paramedics didn't even assess me. 536 00:27:42,748 --> 00:27:44,663 Intensive care unit three days. 537 00:27:45,054 --> 00:27:46,229 I also got a hernia. 538 00:27:46,273 --> 00:27:48,405 And they ended up amputating the toe. 539 00:27:59,808 --> 00:28:02,724 MAEVE: A lot of times, people don't evacuate. 540 00:28:03,116 --> 00:28:04,987 So we will spend two or three days there 541 00:28:05,031 --> 00:28:06,728 prepping their property for a fire to come. 542 00:28:06,772 --> 00:28:08,121 And then we come back today 543 00:28:08,164 --> 00:28:09,513 and they died overnight in the fire. 544 00:28:09,818 --> 00:28:12,473 So two of those Indians made friends with the people 545 00:28:12,516 --> 00:28:14,823 which means I can't send them 546 00:28:15,302 --> 00:28:17,870 to start mopping up, 547 00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:21,656 because it'll be too much of a mental fatigue 548 00:28:21,874 --> 00:28:23,745 if I send them in there. So I need to send them 549 00:28:23,789 --> 00:28:25,791 somewhere else and then get fresh people in... 550 00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:29,620 to where the fatalities are, so that they're not looking 551 00:28:29,664 --> 00:28:32,058 at bodies of people that they spoke with yesterday. 552 00:28:33,842 --> 00:28:35,670 STACY: I mean, the first words out of his mouth were, 553 00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:37,106 "Everything is gone." [CHUCKLES] 554 00:28:37,628 --> 00:28:40,849 I don't care, you know. Everything is not gone. 555 00:28:41,415 --> 00:28:43,373 He thought that he had failed us you know. 556 00:28:43,417 --> 00:28:45,114 As the father, as the protector. 557 00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:48,030 But I can you tell today for sure 558 00:28:48,074 --> 00:28:50,772 with no doubt in my mind a hundred percent 559 00:28:50,816 --> 00:28:53,775 that I have the love of my life standing next to me 560 00:28:53,819 --> 00:28:55,908 and he is my hero today. 561 00:29:00,521 --> 00:29:01,914 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 562 00:29:02,218 --> 00:29:03,567 FEMALE VOICE: Oh my God. 563 00:29:05,918 --> 00:29:08,834 MALE VOICE: Oh.FEMALE VOICE: Can't believe it. 564 00:29:08,877 --> 00:29:10,096 [LAUGHS] 565 00:29:11,575 --> 00:29:13,186 I can't believe that! 566 00:29:15,362 --> 00:29:17,712 This house, my grandma and grandpa, 567 00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:20,889 her mom and dad built. And my grandpa made this sign. 568 00:29:22,064 --> 00:29:23,892 "May all who enter enjoy its warmth 569 00:29:23,936 --> 00:29:25,198 and share our contiment." 570 00:29:25,807 --> 00:29:26,852 Contentment.Contentment. 571 00:29:26,895 --> 00:29:29,550 [LAUGHS][LAUGHS] Contentment. 572 00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:32,901 Mom's getting all choked up, aw. 573 00:29:33,597 --> 00:29:36,557 This house means a lot to her.[SNIFFLES] Everything. 574 00:29:36,949 --> 00:29:39,952 And when we had to leave and left him there, 575 00:29:39,995 --> 00:29:43,738 I couldn't even think. 576 00:29:45,566 --> 00:29:47,394 It's everything to have my kids here 577 00:29:47,437 --> 00:29:50,484 doing what I did and what my dad did. 578 00:29:50,527 --> 00:29:52,965 It's not just a house, it's a home. 579 00:29:53,008 --> 00:29:55,402 That's why we're like not gonna let a fire take it. 580 00:29:55,445 --> 00:29:57,012 [LAUGHS][LAUGHS] 581 00:29:57,056 --> 00:30:01,277 This whole side of the canyon, the whole thing was on fire. 582 00:30:01,538 --> 00:30:03,540 And it was just skipping down the hill 583 00:30:04,106 --> 00:30:05,586 faster than you could run. 584 00:30:05,629 --> 00:30:06,935 RICK: The fire behavior up in the canyons 585 00:30:06,979 --> 00:30:09,938 was you know, like peering into Dante's Inferno 586 00:30:09,982 --> 00:30:12,201 and when I came by and I saw the house there it was like... 587 00:30:12,462 --> 00:30:15,726 [SIGHS] Yes, this is great. 588 00:30:15,770 --> 00:30:17,119 Did a great job. 589 00:30:19,382 --> 00:30:20,731 LUCY: Dante's Inferno? 590 00:30:20,775 --> 00:30:22,342 Yes, it was terrible. 591 00:30:22,733 --> 00:30:24,257 I've seen a few fires like that, 592 00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:26,389 but that was on a scale that I hadn't seen before. 593 00:30:26,433 --> 00:30:28,696 You know, I look and say, "Oh, what if that whole canyon 594 00:30:28,739 --> 00:30:31,394 went off. That would be terrible, but they all went off 595 00:30:31,438 --> 00:30:32,656 at the same time. 596 00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,267 So the amount of energy that was released 597 00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:37,183 up in those canyons was horrific. 598 00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:39,663 It was horrific. And if you're in the wrong place 599 00:30:39,707 --> 00:30:42,492 at the wrong time, you can die. Certainly. 600 00:30:42,753 --> 00:30:44,843 And the fact that more people didn't die in this 601 00:30:44,886 --> 00:30:45,974 is very lucky. 602 00:30:46,018 --> 00:30:48,150 And that's the success story of this fire. 603 00:30:48,194 --> 00:30:52,241 So that's my mayor side talking. The evacuation effort worked. 604 00:31:36,329 --> 00:31:37,373 Clear. 605 00:31:43,205 --> 00:31:45,468 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 606 00:31:48,776 --> 00:31:53,476 [CAR ENGINE REVVING] 607 00:32:00,527 --> 00:32:06,054 [MUSIC PLAYING] 608 00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:12,191 MALE VOICE: What do you think? 609 00:32:15,846 --> 00:32:21,461 I need just something...[MUSIC PLAYING] 610 00:32:46,921 --> 00:32:49,880 [ENGINE STARTS] 611 00:32:59,064 --> 00:33:01,240 SEAN: People were unable to escape that fire 612 00:33:01,283 --> 00:33:02,981 and it caught 'em where they were. 613 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,810 Some were in their homes, and some were outside, 614 00:33:06,854 --> 00:33:08,116 and some were in their cars. 615 00:33:10,771 --> 00:33:13,208 It was difficult. [CLEARS THROAT] Very difficult. 616 00:33:25,829 --> 00:33:28,702 SEAN: It's easy to motivate firefighters to go fight a fire. 617 00:33:30,965 --> 00:33:35,187 It's difficult to motivate them to sift through the remains 618 00:33:35,230 --> 00:33:38,233 of 18,000 buildings to look for bones. 619 00:33:38,929 --> 00:33:40,279 And that's what we were doing. 620 00:33:43,238 --> 00:33:48,287 [MUSIC PLAYING] 621 00:33:50,941 --> 00:33:53,596 CHRISTINA: This yellow tape is where they found her 622 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,771 'cause they dug. 623 00:33:56,208 --> 00:34:00,342 The couch would have been that way, not this way. 624 00:34:02,083 --> 00:34:03,171 I don't know. 625 00:34:04,477 --> 00:34:07,349 They cross-confirmed the DNA with my mom. 626 00:34:08,568 --> 00:34:11,875 I didn't even get to say that I loved her. 627 00:34:13,094 --> 00:34:15,009 I blame myself about it. 628 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,883 I'm an only child and she was my only family. 629 00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:43,646 JAMIE: I moved to LA five years ago 630 00:34:43,690 --> 00:34:46,084 from New York as a widower. As a fresh widower. 631 00:34:46,736 --> 00:34:50,262 So the hardest thing to lose is like a tall stack 632 00:34:50,871 --> 00:34:53,526 of notebooks of remembrances of my wife. 633 00:34:55,180 --> 00:34:56,355 And then my father just passed away, 634 00:34:57,921 --> 00:34:59,053 so I had clothes that I really looked forward to wearing 635 00:34:59,097 --> 00:35:00,228 that were his. 636 00:35:01,055 --> 00:35:02,665 So that's the stuff that's difficult. 637 00:35:04,798 --> 00:35:08,367 Everything I could replace, books, furniture, clothes 638 00:35:08,671 --> 00:35:10,369 really had no meaning. 639 00:35:10,412 --> 00:35:14,460 And everything that had meaning which is mem-- notes, photos, 640 00:35:14,503 --> 00:35:16,549 keepsakes, I could never replace. 641 00:35:17,289 --> 00:35:19,378 MALE VOICE: The smoke that so many complained about 642 00:35:20,161 --> 00:35:22,207 was the last remnants of my pets. 643 00:35:26,341 --> 00:35:28,082 STREDWICK: I had a lot of pictures that went back 644 00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:29,475 few generations. 645 00:35:30,302 --> 00:35:33,087 My mom's and grandmom's deaths, lot of years. 646 00:35:33,131 --> 00:35:34,567 And there were a lot of the recipes. 647 00:35:35,655 --> 00:35:37,135 THOR: I'm not sure what happened. 648 00:35:37,613 --> 00:35:39,485 But I'm finding there's a new importance 649 00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:41,182 to the little material things. 650 00:35:42,792 --> 00:35:46,535 Objects and photographs, they unlock memories. 651 00:35:47,580 --> 00:35:49,843 It's a memory that comes back out of the fog. 652 00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:54,152 The keys to my memory were my belongings. 653 00:35:55,327 --> 00:35:56,719 But everything's gone. 654 00:35:57,981 --> 00:36:03,291 I could be a fog person now. One of the ones in the fog. 655 00:36:08,427 --> 00:36:10,559 MALE VOICE: Didn't have a lot of personal stuff, 656 00:36:10,603 --> 00:36:13,040 but the watches I wanted, they were my step-dad's. 657 00:36:13,693 --> 00:36:16,130 He was a navy hero. 658 00:36:16,174 --> 00:36:18,524 Had a silver star and a purple heart. 659 00:36:20,308 --> 00:36:24,007 Feel like I'm on an acid trip that might not end. 660 00:36:25,748 --> 00:36:28,577 How do you not end up homeless which is almost a joke 661 00:36:28,621 --> 00:36:30,449 at this point, because I am technically homeless. 662 00:36:33,669 --> 00:36:36,411 How do not let it drive you down, down, down, down 663 00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:39,762 to whatever spark or semblance of a spark 664 00:36:39,806 --> 00:36:40,894 that moves you forward in the world 665 00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:43,940 and brings opportunities, and friends, 666 00:36:43,984 --> 00:36:45,159 and love, and all that. 667 00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:47,292 Just goes out and you become embittered 668 00:36:47,335 --> 00:36:50,425 and it-- and-- and that-- and it's-- it just doesn't seem 669 00:36:50,469 --> 00:36:53,472 like it's a far jump when stuff happens to you 670 00:36:53,515 --> 00:36:55,256 and you really-- It hits hard. 671 00:36:57,650 --> 00:37:02,045 [SIZZLING][INDISTINCT CHATTER] 672 00:37:02,089 --> 00:37:07,486 [MUSIC PLAYING] 673 00:37:10,837 --> 00:37:12,752 BRAD: There's a lot of people with no place to go. 674 00:37:12,795 --> 00:37:15,015 They're sleeping outside, it's gonna start raining. 675 00:37:15,058 --> 00:37:16,234 It's getting cold. 676 00:37:17,626 --> 00:37:20,238 So I'm cleaning out-- this was-- 677 00:37:20,281 --> 00:37:23,110 this little middle room was my storeroom. 678 00:37:23,415 --> 00:37:25,504 My garage, everything is getting cleaned out 679 00:37:25,547 --> 00:37:28,289 and going out in the shop, so can move some other people in 680 00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:30,291 and give 'em a place to live until they can rebuild. 681 00:37:30,335 --> 00:37:36,254 [MUSIC PLAYING] 682 00:37:45,524 --> 00:37:49,267 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 683 00:37:52,226 --> 00:37:55,055 THOR: It's just wonderful to get something hot, something cooked. 684 00:37:55,621 --> 00:37:57,492 Well, these eggs are fantastic. 685 00:37:58,188 --> 00:38:01,279 And I like the ketchup, I'm a big fan of the ketchup. 686 00:38:02,192 --> 00:38:05,413 It beats granola bars hands down. [LAUGHS] 687 00:38:05,805 --> 00:38:08,286 [INDISTINCT CHATTER]LUCY: 688 00:38:31,396 --> 00:38:35,008 [DOGS BARKING] 689 00:38:36,966 --> 00:38:40,361 [SOBBING] 690 00:38:42,537 --> 00:38:45,366 FEMALE VOICE: I love you so much, Brad.BRAD: I love you, too, baby. 691 00:38:45,410 --> 00:38:48,674 FEMALE VOICE: I brought you water, and food, and fruit for Mawmaw. 692 00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:50,589 I want my kisses. 693 00:38:55,768 --> 00:38:57,552 Love you.Love you. 694 00:38:57,596 --> 00:38:59,815 I told you can come live with us. 695 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,514 Aww, thank you, Mawmaw. 696 00:39:12,219 --> 00:39:15,091 [BREATHES HEAVILY] 697 00:39:15,744 --> 00:39:17,485 That's my neighbor's house. 698 00:39:19,139 --> 00:39:20,880 Their garage didn't make it. 699 00:39:22,316 --> 00:39:23,709 They have their home. 700 00:39:26,842 --> 00:39:28,888 Oh my God. [SOBS] 701 00:39:29,192 --> 00:39:32,935 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 702 00:39:35,677 --> 00:39:38,245 I was hoping that this wouldn't be burnt so bad. 703 00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:43,729 So this was my kids' bedrooms... 704 00:39:45,208 --> 00:39:48,298 and then my bedroom where the wall collapsed. 705 00:39:48,908 --> 00:39:51,389 [SIGHS, SNIFFLES] 706 00:39:55,305 --> 00:39:58,221 [MAN COUGHING]My daughter's bed. [SOBS] 707 00:40:01,050 --> 00:40:03,401 All my kids' stuff. 708 00:40:05,664 --> 00:40:09,015 [SNIFFLES] I mean I know it's just stuff, but... 709 00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:14,499 it was my stuff. It was my memories. 710 00:40:15,978 --> 00:40:18,938 [SOBS] 711 00:40:19,678 --> 00:40:23,899 [CRIES] 712 00:40:32,778 --> 00:40:33,779 BRAD: I don't need coffee, bud. 713 00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:36,564 I'm on--Are those regular cookies 714 00:40:36,608 --> 00:40:38,044 or special cookies?Those are regular. 715 00:40:38,087 --> 00:40:39,785 Okay.Those are not specials. 716 00:40:40,263 --> 00:40:43,310 I have specials if you want one.Can I have some-- No, no, no. 717 00:40:43,353 --> 00:40:46,008 I mean we've had the Tubbs Fire. We have the Carr Fire. 718 00:40:46,531 --> 00:40:48,707 You know, Lake County seems like they can't get a break. 719 00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:50,578 And it seems like every year now they're on fire. 720 00:40:51,144 --> 00:40:53,276 And what do we do--BRAD: Every other year Concow, 721 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,627 Yankee Hill.And what do we do different? 722 00:40:56,192 --> 00:40:58,151 Even if we believe that it's climate change, 723 00:40:58,194 --> 00:41:00,632 we gotta do something about it.BRAD: Mm-hmm. 724 00:41:00,675 --> 00:41:02,808 So let's just say I believe it, which I don't. 725 00:41:02,851 --> 00:41:04,940 But let's just say I did for a brief second. 726 00:41:04,984 --> 00:41:06,986 Even if you wanna go with that explanation, 727 00:41:07,377 --> 00:41:09,075 what do we do differently?Mm-hmm. 728 00:41:09,728 --> 00:41:13,166 LUCY: It came as a shock that the residents most affected 729 00:41:13,209 --> 00:41:16,299 by the fires didn't connect them with climate change. 730 00:41:18,345 --> 00:41:20,826 Fire, and it happen every year, so it has nothing do 731 00:41:20,869 --> 00:41:24,264 with global warming. That's just a hoax. 732 00:41:24,307 --> 00:41:28,790 It's just people making money off it, you know. 733 00:41:28,834 --> 00:41:30,879 You can sit back, you can see who makes money off it. 734 00:41:30,923 --> 00:41:32,272 And--LUCY: Who does? 735 00:41:33,142 --> 00:41:35,536 All the big shots are the ones squawking about it, 736 00:41:36,145 --> 00:41:37,320 you know, it's-- 737 00:41:38,713 --> 00:41:41,673 It's none of us people down here, on the other end, 738 00:41:41,716 --> 00:41:43,065 we ain't gettin' nothing from it, 739 00:41:43,762 --> 00:41:48,984 but yeah, no that's just a hoax anyway. 740 00:41:49,028 --> 00:41:50,638 You said you were from what, New York? 741 00:41:51,465 --> 00:41:53,989 LUCY: I am not from New York, but what I think he means 742 00:41:54,033 --> 00:41:55,556 is that I'm not from around there. 743 00:41:55,904 --> 00:41:57,427 And I am one of those people 744 00:41:57,471 --> 00:41:59,647 who goes with the science on climate change. 745 00:42:02,171 --> 00:42:04,130 CHAR: Climate change is shifting the environment. 746 00:42:04,173 --> 00:42:07,786 We have deep drought, fast fire, and hard rain, 747 00:42:08,177 --> 00:42:09,831 and it's only going to accelerate. 748 00:42:10,702 --> 00:42:12,921 The western part of the United States 749 00:42:12,965 --> 00:42:15,315 is going through this massive conversion 750 00:42:15,358 --> 00:42:19,058 in terms of climate-driven alterations of its environment. 751 00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:22,496 The research is showing that what we're doing 752 00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:24,672 is converting forest to grassland. 753 00:42:24,716 --> 00:42:27,545 Grassland that over time will become more desert. 754 00:42:27,849 --> 00:42:30,243 And one way of thinking about it is the Sonoran, 755 00:42:30,286 --> 00:42:34,247 Chihuahuan deserts in Mexico are moving across a border. 756 00:42:34,290 --> 00:42:36,075 That it's normal that it's emerging 757 00:42:36,118 --> 00:42:37,729 actually is far more dangerous 758 00:42:37,772 --> 00:42:39,252 than what we've seen in the past. 759 00:42:40,819 --> 00:42:42,298 The numbers themselves don't lie 760 00:42:42,342 --> 00:42:43,691 if you look at the trends of 'em. 761 00:42:43,735 --> 00:42:45,563 And the trends are really overwhelming. 762 00:42:46,041 --> 00:42:48,827 Historically, the winds were always there, 763 00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:50,611 but the fuels were not dried out. 764 00:42:51,917 --> 00:42:53,571 Something is happening more and more 765 00:42:53,614 --> 00:42:55,094 is the rains have not arrived. 766 00:42:55,529 --> 00:42:58,576 At a time of year, when normally the fuels 767 00:42:58,619 --> 00:43:00,360 would've been too wet to get going. 768 00:43:03,102 --> 00:43:06,758 Had nighttime temperatures go up almost two degrees Fahrenheit. 769 00:43:06,801 --> 00:43:08,760 And you make the most of your progress 770 00:43:08,803 --> 00:43:10,544 containing a fire at night. 771 00:43:11,023 --> 00:43:13,591 And when you don't get that recovery period at night, 772 00:43:13,895 --> 00:43:16,115 that's a real recipe for catastrophe. 773 00:43:17,072 --> 00:43:19,248 STEPHEN: We're creating a kind of fire age. 774 00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:22,077 The fire equivalent of an ice age. 775 00:43:23,426 --> 00:43:26,473 For me, it fits into a master narrative 776 00:43:26,516 --> 00:43:29,128 that I have of ourselves as fire creatures. 777 00:43:30,782 --> 00:43:33,393 It had always been our problem as a fire creature. 778 00:43:33,436 --> 00:43:37,179 Our quest for fire, if you will, to find more stuff to burn. 779 00:43:38,093 --> 00:43:41,575 What we've done is find a whole new world 780 00:43:41,967 --> 00:43:45,057 of buried fossilized biomass. 781 00:43:45,405 --> 00:43:47,625 And we're taking it out of the geologic mass, 782 00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:50,976 burning it, and releasing it into the geologic future. 783 00:43:51,716 --> 00:43:53,979 That has been enormously powerful for us, 784 00:43:54,501 --> 00:43:57,939 but that broke our relationship with the living landscape. 785 00:43:57,983 --> 00:44:00,246 'Cause this stuff, it can't be absorbed 786 00:44:00,507 --> 00:44:03,379 and so we are destroying our habitat 787 00:44:03,423 --> 00:44:05,120 with this kind of fire. 788 00:44:07,253 --> 00:44:09,516 LUCY: I had made an assumption that climate change 789 00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:12,650 was the thing that was driving these hellishly bad fires. 790 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,393 We've had these record-breakingly hottest years 791 00:44:17,437 --> 00:44:19,831 and these record-breakingly biggest fires. 792 00:44:20,614 --> 00:44:22,268 So it just correlated. 793 00:44:24,009 --> 00:44:26,359 But it turns out there's more to it. 794 00:44:27,795 --> 00:44:30,015 Climate change in a lot of ways is a distraction 795 00:44:30,058 --> 00:44:33,148 from the issue of fire, because Paradise was gonna burn 796 00:44:33,192 --> 00:44:34,672 whether there was climate change or not. 797 00:44:35,237 --> 00:44:39,198 STEPHEN: Even if climate change miraculously went back 798 00:44:39,241 --> 00:44:40,721 to the 1960s level, 799 00:44:41,156 --> 00:44:43,289 we would still have a fire crisis. 800 00:44:44,769 --> 00:44:48,076 Climate change is undoubtedly aggravating fire problems. 801 00:44:48,468 --> 00:44:50,122 It's a major factor, 802 00:44:50,165 --> 00:44:53,429 it is a performance enhancer, but it is not the only thing. 803 00:44:54,474 --> 00:44:56,824 I'm sorry, I-- I'm sorry to say this in a way, 804 00:44:56,868 --> 00:44:59,784 because you get blamed and climate changer denier 805 00:44:59,827 --> 00:45:02,569 or you're soft denier, that's not my intention. 806 00:45:02,612 --> 00:45:05,137 But if you say climate change is the only thing that matters, 807 00:45:05,180 --> 00:45:07,879 then the only thing to fix it is fixing climate change. 808 00:45:07,922 --> 00:45:09,445 That's not gonna happen for a long time. 809 00:45:09,489 --> 00:45:10,620 I say that with sadness. 810 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,754 I've got grandkids, but we don't just have to build 811 00:45:13,798 --> 00:45:16,017 concrete bunkers and wait it out. 812 00:45:16,714 --> 00:45:20,369 We can work with this and if we're lucky and good, 813 00:45:20,413 --> 00:45:23,590 then we'll leave enough for our grandkids 814 00:45:23,938 --> 00:45:25,810 to be able to build a different world out of. 815 00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:28,551 LUCY: So this is the good news. 816 00:45:28,595 --> 00:45:31,337 Climate change and fire are separable. 817 00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:33,034 This movie doesn't have to be about something 818 00:45:33,078 --> 00:45:35,558 that's going to get inevitably worse and worse. 819 00:45:36,429 --> 00:45:38,736 We can do something to turn this around. 820 00:45:40,694 --> 00:45:45,351 [MUSIC PLAYING] 821 00:45:57,058 --> 00:45:58,799 LUCY: Now I hadn't been the first European 822 00:45:58,843 --> 00:45:59,931 to land in California. 823 00:46:01,367 --> 00:46:02,760 That would be Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo. 824 00:46:02,977 --> 00:46:05,719 And it happened on October 8th, 1542, 825 00:46:05,763 --> 00:46:08,896 When his expedition sailed up towards what's now Los Angeles. 826 00:46:09,723 --> 00:46:12,552 And their first impression was smoke. 827 00:46:12,595 --> 00:46:14,293 There was fire everywhere. 828 00:46:14,336 --> 00:46:16,338 And so they called what's now Los Angeles, 829 00:46:16,382 --> 00:46:19,602 the "Bahia de los Fumos", the "Bay of Smokes". 830 00:46:21,213 --> 00:46:22,562 History doesn't tell us whether that was 831 00:46:22,605 --> 00:46:25,130 a natural wildfire or a fire deliberately set 832 00:46:25,173 --> 00:46:27,567 by Native Americans, whose practice it was 833 00:46:27,610 --> 00:46:29,264 to intentionally set fires. 834 00:46:29,917 --> 00:46:32,180 But we do know that the Europeans left 835 00:46:32,224 --> 00:46:34,835 and they didn't come back for 150 years. 836 00:46:34,879 --> 00:46:38,839 And when they did, they banned those native burning practices. 837 00:46:38,883 --> 00:46:41,450 And anyway, barely any of them wanted to live there 838 00:46:41,842 --> 00:46:45,454 until all that changed one cold January morning 839 00:46:45,498 --> 00:46:47,108 in 1848 840 00:46:47,543 --> 00:46:51,025 when James Marshall discovered gold in Sutters Mill 841 00:46:51,373 --> 00:46:53,375 which is about a 100 miles from Paradise. 842 00:46:54,072 --> 00:46:56,204 And with that the old American dream 843 00:46:56,248 --> 00:46:58,903 of Puritan men and women content to accumulate 844 00:46:59,251 --> 00:47:00,992 a modest fortune was replaced 845 00:47:01,035 --> 00:47:03,559 by the golden dream of instant wealth. 846 00:47:04,299 --> 00:47:07,563 One in a twinkling by audacity and good luck. 847 00:47:08,956 --> 00:47:12,003 [CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING]LUCY: By 1849, thousands were pouring in 848 00:47:12,046 --> 00:47:14,483 from around the world in search of their golden dream. 849 00:47:14,875 --> 00:47:16,224 But it wouldn't end with gold. 850 00:47:16,268 --> 00:47:18,313 Hollywood would follow, then aerospace, 851 00:47:18,923 --> 00:47:23,144 NASA, Silicon Valley, wine, surfing, punk rock, 852 00:47:23,449 --> 00:47:26,147 the internet, and the dot-com boom. 853 00:47:26,191 --> 00:47:28,671 California was hot, hot, hot. 854 00:47:28,715 --> 00:47:31,500 And if an occasional fire did burn down some things, 855 00:47:31,761 --> 00:47:34,068 well, so what? Put that thing out. 856 00:47:34,503 --> 00:47:37,376 Hire some firefighters and buy some more AOL stock. 857 00:47:37,419 --> 00:47:39,117 Yes, we'll be right there, thank you. 858 00:47:41,554 --> 00:47:43,425 LUCY: And then I learned about another boom. 859 00:47:43,773 --> 00:47:46,124 Sort of boring, sort of inscrutable. 860 00:47:46,167 --> 00:47:48,169 Sort of probably why I hadn't thought of it before. 861 00:47:49,692 --> 00:47:51,738 The timber boom. Bear with me. 862 00:47:52,521 --> 00:47:54,610 ZEKE: In the early part of the 20th century, 863 00:47:54,654 --> 00:47:56,743 big companies from Minnesota and Michigan, 864 00:47:57,004 --> 00:47:59,964 that had made fortunes logging all the Great North Woods. 865 00:48:00,007 --> 00:48:01,443 They had run out of trees to cut 866 00:48:01,922 --> 00:48:04,229 and so they built land empires in California. 867 00:48:05,143 --> 00:48:07,449 After the timber barons had acquired 868 00:48:07,493 --> 00:48:08,798 all the best timber land, 869 00:48:08,842 --> 00:48:09,887 there was suddenly a great interest 870 00:48:10,452 --> 00:48:12,585 in protecting these investments 871 00:48:12,628 --> 00:48:15,544 and these corporate earnings basically 872 00:48:15,980 --> 00:48:17,982 by getting the Forest Service to put out all the fires. 873 00:48:20,767 --> 00:48:23,901 STEPHEN: In 1910, three and a quarter million acres burned. 874 00:48:24,162 --> 00:48:25,815 Seventy-eight firefighters killed. 875 00:48:26,251 --> 00:48:28,731 So they were determined that it would never happen again 876 00:48:28,775 --> 00:48:29,994 on their watch. 877 00:48:30,995 --> 00:48:32,822 MALCOLM: And so starting in 1910, 878 00:48:32,866 --> 00:48:34,346 the Forest Services made it 879 00:48:34,389 --> 00:48:37,088 its primary mission to be able to put out wildfire. 880 00:48:37,653 --> 00:48:40,395 They developed the 10:00 a.m. policy 881 00:48:40,656 --> 00:48:42,832 that meant that as soon as you had an ignition, 882 00:48:43,094 --> 00:48:45,357 the objective was to try to put the fire out 883 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,054 before 10:00 a.m. of the following day. 884 00:48:47,881 --> 00:48:50,971 And that is what we call, "fire suppression." 885 00:48:52,016 --> 00:48:55,149 STEPHEN: And then the great housing boom after World War II, 886 00:48:55,497 --> 00:48:57,935 suddenly there's a huge demand for timber. 887 00:48:57,978 --> 00:48:59,937 You're creating all kinds of slash. 888 00:49:00,198 --> 00:49:01,590 You're starting to have fire problems 889 00:49:02,026 --> 00:49:03,897 and so a whole lot more of fire protection 890 00:49:03,941 --> 00:49:07,857 was necessary.[SIRENS BLARING] 891 00:49:07,901 --> 00:49:09,424 ZEKE: So straight to the 20th century, 892 00:49:09,642 --> 00:49:11,774 we've been trying to put out as many fires as we could. 893 00:49:14,777 --> 00:49:17,215 We've got a narrative that has been built for us 894 00:49:17,476 --> 00:49:21,088 by the media that casts the firefighters as heroes 895 00:49:21,132 --> 00:49:23,395 and the suppression as this kind of 896 00:49:23,438 --> 00:49:25,484 noble combat operation. 897 00:49:28,008 --> 00:49:30,750 And fires always cast as the villain. 898 00:49:31,098 --> 00:49:34,014 SMOKEY BEAR: Hello, I am Smokey Bear. 899 00:49:34,058 --> 00:49:36,669 Bambi's family lives here in this forest, too. 900 00:49:36,930 --> 00:49:38,062 It's their home. 901 00:49:39,585 --> 00:49:41,674 But sometimes, people come here and they get careless. 902 00:49:42,066 --> 00:49:44,546 PETE: We've had all this Bambi-fambi stuff 903 00:49:44,590 --> 00:49:46,592 being put out to children, 904 00:49:46,635 --> 00:49:49,203 you know that, "Don't encroach on the forest. 905 00:49:49,247 --> 00:49:51,553 Don't do anything. Fire is bad." 906 00:49:51,597 --> 00:49:55,470 Remember, only you can prevent forest fires. 907 00:49:55,905 --> 00:49:57,168 HALSEY: So they've created 908 00:49:57,211 --> 00:49:59,648 this huge fire industrial complex 909 00:49:59,909 --> 00:50:03,565 to address the whole problem, because that's what we do. 910 00:50:04,262 --> 00:50:07,047 The solution to fire has been to attack, attack, attack 911 00:50:07,091 --> 00:50:09,006 with these militaristic strategies. 912 00:50:10,616 --> 00:50:14,054 And it makes us feel good and everyone's a hero. 913 00:50:14,359 --> 00:50:15,882 But it's not working. 914 00:50:17,710 --> 00:50:19,016 FEMALE VOICE: Look, Ashley, at all the smoke. 915 00:50:19,059 --> 00:50:20,104 MALE VOICE: Look at the fire, Ashley. 916 00:50:21,583 --> 00:50:21,627 FEMALE VOICE: See the dark smoke.ASHLEY: Yeah. 917 00:50:23,368 --> 00:50:24,543 LUCY: But we didn't seem to be winning this war on fire. 918 00:50:24,586 --> 00:50:25,500 In fact, the battles kept coming 919 00:50:26,849 --> 00:50:28,416 and right into town. [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 920 00:50:28,460 --> 00:50:31,724 LUCY: This is Oakland in 1991 when 25 people died. 921 00:50:32,203 --> 00:50:34,074 My God, I've never seen anything like that? 922 00:50:35,597 --> 00:50:38,731 LUCY: By 2020, the entire western United States 923 00:50:39,036 --> 00:50:40,863 was on fire at once. 924 00:50:41,168 --> 00:50:43,823 The sky was red from Seattle to San Diego 925 00:50:43,866 --> 00:50:46,304 and it seemed like the end times had come. 926 00:50:46,347 --> 00:50:47,870 MALE VOICE: Looks like doomsday. 927 00:50:47,914 --> 00:50:51,048 I mean you could tell something is going horribly wrong. 928 00:50:52,179 --> 00:50:54,094 ZEKE: Rather than look at this as a war on fire, 929 00:50:54,138 --> 00:50:55,617 we should call it a war on nature, 930 00:50:55,922 --> 00:50:57,880 because that's what it is. 931 00:50:58,794 --> 00:50:59,969 STEPHEN: If we're at war with fire, 932 00:51:00,013 --> 00:51:01,058 three things are gonna happen. 933 00:51:01,580 --> 00:51:03,147 We're gonna spend a lot of money, 934 00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:04,670 we're gonna take a lot of casualties 935 00:51:04,713 --> 00:51:05,932 and we're gonna lose. 936 00:51:07,542 --> 00:51:10,328 MALCOLM: When we think about these large fire events, 937 00:51:10,371 --> 00:51:12,286 often say, "Oh my God, it's an act of God. 938 00:51:12,330 --> 00:51:14,201 There's nothing we really could have done about something 939 00:51:14,245 --> 00:51:17,204 with that kind of ferocity." That's just not true. 940 00:51:17,465 --> 00:51:20,773 There are a hundred years of decisions that people made 941 00:51:20,816 --> 00:51:23,341 to put out each one of the small little fires. 942 00:51:23,863 --> 00:51:26,083 REPORTER: Fires are quickly located before they have a chance 943 00:51:26,126 --> 00:51:27,736 to spread over large areas. 944 00:51:28,346 --> 00:51:31,349 TRINA: If we haven't burned in a fire-adapted landscape 945 00:51:31,392 --> 00:51:34,613 for years, you know when fire comes along, 946 00:51:34,656 --> 00:51:36,658 it's going to blow up, it's going to be voracious. 947 00:51:39,008 --> 00:51:40,706 I don't see this as a natural disaster. 948 00:51:40,749 --> 00:51:42,273 I see this as human error. 949 00:51:47,104 --> 00:51:49,671 LUCY: Comparing photographs makes it very clear. 950 00:51:50,455 --> 00:51:51,978 You can see the changes. 951 00:51:53,066 --> 00:51:55,547 You can see what fire suppression has done. 952 00:51:56,156 --> 00:51:58,898 Forests just didn't use to be this thick. 953 00:52:00,465 --> 00:52:03,772 PETE: In the past, it was more of a savannah situation. 954 00:52:04,208 --> 00:52:06,862 Bigger trees, farther spaced apart. 955 00:52:07,428 --> 00:52:09,865 There's more trees up there than there's ever been. 956 00:52:09,909 --> 00:52:11,693 There's too many trees up there. 957 00:52:11,954 --> 00:52:14,261 Now you create a heat source that you can't stop. 958 00:52:16,045 --> 00:52:17,438 LUCY: And it's not just the forests 959 00:52:17,482 --> 00:52:19,092 of northern California where the fuel loads 960 00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:20,572 have drastically changed. 961 00:52:21,616 --> 00:52:23,488 When we first came to Malibu, 962 00:52:23,792 --> 00:52:26,143 of course, there were no trees anywhere. 963 00:52:26,186 --> 00:52:28,493 But people who move here think they want to build 964 00:52:28,536 --> 00:52:30,495 a little tropical paradise in the desert. 965 00:52:30,973 --> 00:52:33,150 People that aren't really paying much attention. 966 00:52:33,759 --> 00:52:36,675 SAM: There was so much fuel, the eucalyptus trees, 967 00:52:36,718 --> 00:52:38,111 The palm trees that people planted, 968 00:52:38,155 --> 00:52:39,199 they're matchsticks. 969 00:52:41,723 --> 00:52:44,030 KRISTEN: 2020 was the biggest fire season on record 970 00:52:44,073 --> 00:52:46,511 in California. And thousands 971 00:52:46,902 --> 00:52:49,905 of the ancient giant sequoia perished in these fires. 972 00:52:49,949 --> 00:52:51,994 And these are trees that survive through hundreds 973 00:52:52,038 --> 00:52:53,822 of wildfires in their lifetimes. 974 00:52:54,214 --> 00:52:56,695 They are the quintessential fire-adapted species, 975 00:52:57,086 --> 00:52:58,827 so they have really thick bark. 976 00:52:59,263 --> 00:53:01,265 Their cones are cue to open with fire 977 00:53:01,308 --> 00:53:04,616 and land on that really rich seed bed 978 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,574 that is cleared of debris. 979 00:53:06,618 --> 00:53:08,707 And what we're finding now is more and more 980 00:53:08,750 --> 00:53:10,970 of these ancients giants are dying 981 00:53:11,013 --> 00:53:12,319 as a result of the fire. 982 00:53:12,624 --> 00:53:15,496 So clearly like, we are doing something wrong. 983 00:53:16,976 --> 00:53:19,674 LUCY: A month after these fires in Paradise and Malibu, 984 00:53:19,935 --> 00:53:23,374 the Trump Administration issued an executive order mandating 985 00:53:23,417 --> 00:53:26,855 a major increase in logging as a solution to the fires. 986 00:53:27,595 --> 00:53:29,945 Forest fires burn, this isn't a new norm. 987 00:53:30,337 --> 00:53:31,643 You know, it can be managed. 988 00:53:33,122 --> 00:53:34,689 The only endangered species happens to be a logger. 989 00:53:35,212 --> 00:53:36,604 LUCY: But I was confused. 990 00:53:37,039 --> 00:53:39,738 Hadn't we learnt that California had been logged? 991 00:53:40,956 --> 00:53:42,741 ZEKE: We had the Secretary of Interior come out 992 00:53:42,784 --> 00:53:44,656 and say that a lack of active land management 993 00:53:44,699 --> 00:53:46,397 was to blame for fires like the Camp Fire. 994 00:53:47,006 --> 00:53:49,922 As a geographer I can say that the industrial timberland 995 00:53:49,965 --> 00:53:52,098 that the Camp Fire burned across on its way to Paradise 996 00:53:52,446 --> 00:53:55,884 was managed about as intensely as you can manage land. 997 00:53:55,928 --> 00:53:58,757 We've had a ton of logging in the area that was burned 998 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,020 by the Camp Fire and it didn't save Paradise. 999 00:54:02,282 --> 00:54:05,372 LUCY: So is it too much logging or too little logging? 1000 00:54:05,851 --> 00:54:08,245 And could that have been a factor in the Camp Fire? 1001 00:54:11,596 --> 00:54:15,774 There's their rail road right there, Diamond Match. 1002 00:54:16,035 --> 00:54:18,080 They would cut down a tree bigger than anything 1003 00:54:18,124 --> 00:54:20,169 you can see around here, take it down there, 1004 00:54:20,213 --> 00:54:21,388 and make match matchsticks. 1005 00:54:22,868 --> 00:54:24,173 LUCY: That's exactly right. Diamond Match was here. 1006 00:54:24,217 --> 00:54:25,566 It's literally made of matchsticks this place. 1007 00:54:25,610 --> 00:54:26,959 Made of matchsticks! 1008 00:54:27,351 --> 00:54:29,483 Paradise started out Diamond Match. 1009 00:54:30,267 --> 00:54:32,660 Diamond Match used to own all the land around here 1010 00:54:33,487 --> 00:54:35,097 'til BiC put 'em out of business. 1011 00:54:35,446 --> 00:54:36,795 That little lighter. 1012 00:54:36,838 --> 00:54:39,667 So they turned the land over to Sierra Pacific. 1013 00:54:41,365 --> 00:54:42,975 LUCY: So I looked at the satellite image 1014 00:54:43,018 --> 00:54:45,804 of the Camp Fire burning after about four hours. 1015 00:54:47,022 --> 00:54:49,547 And I looked at how much of that land was owned 1016 00:54:49,590 --> 00:54:51,679 by Sierra Pacific Industries. 1017 00:54:53,377 --> 00:54:54,465 And look... 1018 00:54:56,510 --> 00:54:57,642 it's a lot. 1019 00:54:59,383 --> 00:55:01,559 Sierra Pacific is owned by one guy. 1020 00:55:01,907 --> 00:55:03,430 You know, this Red Emmerson. 1021 00:55:04,301 --> 00:55:06,346 He's the largest private land owner 1022 00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:07,782 in the state of California. 1023 00:55:09,697 --> 00:55:10,698 LUCY: In fact, he's one of the richest people in the world, 1024 00:55:12,134 --> 00:55:12,352 but nobody seems to have heard of him. 1025 00:55:13,701 --> 00:55:15,224 He's also a huge Republican donor, 1026 00:55:15,268 --> 00:55:17,226 especially to members of the agricultural committee 1027 00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:18,967 which oversees forestry. 1028 00:55:19,403 --> 00:55:22,319 He personally owns 1.9 percent of California, 1029 00:55:22,667 --> 00:55:25,539 making him the third largest land owner in the US 1030 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,237 And it turns out Sierra Pacific Industries 1031 00:55:28,281 --> 00:55:29,717 is very controversial. 1032 00:55:29,978 --> 00:55:32,677 For one thing, because their practices involve 1033 00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:33,852 clear-cutting. 1034 00:55:35,375 --> 00:55:37,638 What we like to do is select an area of about 16 acres, 1035 00:55:38,073 --> 00:55:40,815 and cut down all the trees, and essentially, start over. 1036 00:55:41,207 --> 00:55:43,644 Really more of a restoration to the original forest. 1037 00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:45,603 LUCY: But doesn't cutting down all the trees 1038 00:55:45,646 --> 00:55:48,388 sound like the opposite of an original forest? 1039 00:55:48,997 --> 00:55:50,912 I feel that forest and fire ecology 1040 00:55:50,956 --> 00:55:52,000 is like opposite world. 1041 00:55:53,741 --> 00:55:56,918 What we're being told by the logging industry is that 1042 00:55:56,962 --> 00:55:58,398 the more trees you pull out of the forest, 1043 00:55:58,659 --> 00:56:00,400 the more that's going to stop fires. 1044 00:56:00,705 --> 00:56:03,621 And the reality is it's exactly the opposite. 1045 00:56:04,448 --> 00:56:06,058 ZEKE: The California Forest Practice rules 1046 00:56:06,101 --> 00:56:08,495 require timber companies to plant a lot of trees 1047 00:56:08,539 --> 00:56:09,670 when they clear-cut. 1048 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,457 The result is that now we have enormously thick forests 1049 00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:14,893 that we have to come and thin, 1050 00:56:14,936 --> 00:56:16,590 creating more fire-prone conditions 1051 00:56:16,634 --> 00:56:18,984 in the woods by having slash, and small branches, 1052 00:56:19,027 --> 00:56:20,638 and pine needles that have been laying everywhere. 1053 00:56:21,639 --> 00:56:25,991 CHAD: And the logging is spreading invasive grasses 1054 00:56:26,034 --> 00:56:28,776 like cheatgrass which is incredibly combustible 1055 00:56:29,037 --> 00:56:31,562 and spreads fire very quickly, and very intensely. 1056 00:56:32,301 --> 00:56:33,607 ZEKE: And we're really subsidizing 1057 00:56:33,651 --> 00:56:35,740 their un-fire safe land management, 1058 00:56:35,783 --> 00:56:37,785 because we pay for all their fire suppression. 1059 00:56:38,525 --> 00:56:40,092 The public pays for the air tankers 1060 00:56:40,135 --> 00:56:42,050 that come and drop. They pay for the bulldozers. 1061 00:56:42,094 --> 00:56:43,356 They pay for the inmate crews 1062 00:56:44,096 --> 00:56:46,272 and it's not really costing SPI... 1063 00:56:47,752 --> 00:56:49,101 anything at all. 1064 00:56:50,058 --> 00:56:52,017 STEPHEN: All of these mammoth mega fires, 1065 00:56:52,496 --> 00:56:54,846 it was the debris left from logging 1066 00:56:55,237 --> 00:56:56,891 that powered those fires. 1067 00:56:58,197 --> 00:56:59,981 Logging and fire do different things. 1068 00:57:00,329 --> 00:57:02,767 Logging takes the big stuff and leaves the little. 1069 00:57:03,245 --> 00:57:05,204 Fires burns the little and leaves the big. 1070 00:57:06,248 --> 00:57:07,554 If you have a campfire 1071 00:57:07,598 --> 00:57:09,730 and it's starting to die down, what do you do? 1072 00:57:09,774 --> 00:57:12,298 You throw in pine needles, you throw in kindling, 1073 00:57:12,341 --> 00:57:13,821 you throw in all the small stuff, 1074 00:57:13,865 --> 00:57:15,519 you throw in a big chunk of green wood 1075 00:57:15,562 --> 00:57:18,826 and the fire's gonna go out.[MUSIC PLAYING] 1076 00:57:29,707 --> 00:57:31,709 LUCY: And those trucks are serious on these roads, huh? 1077 00:57:31,970 --> 00:57:34,407 Well, they're limited on time. 1078 00:57:34,755 --> 00:57:36,627 They're trying to make three trips a day 1079 00:57:36,670 --> 00:57:39,281 to the saw mills in various locations. 1080 00:57:39,978 --> 00:57:42,197 And they don't have a lot of patience for the tourists. 1081 00:57:42,502 --> 00:57:44,765 LUCY: Yeah.Yeah. Uh... 1082 00:57:46,506 --> 00:57:48,682 These guys are on their second trip right now. 1083 00:57:55,733 --> 00:57:58,257 And that direction is where the Camp Fire came from. 1084 00:58:00,346 --> 00:58:02,740 Uh, it's all Sierra Pacific's ground. 1085 00:58:03,523 --> 00:58:04,872 It was an inferno in here. 1086 00:58:07,135 --> 00:58:10,008 We're now in the heart of the Camp Fire 1087 00:58:10,487 --> 00:58:13,141 in an area that was heavily post-fire logged 1088 00:58:13,185 --> 00:58:16,318 after a huge fire that occurred in 2008. 1089 00:58:16,362 --> 00:58:19,670 LUCY: These trees are all like eight feet tall. 1090 00:58:19,713 --> 00:58:21,585 I mean that's like, it's just--This is a tree plantation. 1091 00:58:21,628 --> 00:58:23,500 This is our stop. This is it.LUCY: Let's get out. 1092 00:58:23,543 --> 00:58:25,110 I'm like in shock. 1093 00:58:25,153 --> 00:58:27,591 Yeah, in fact, you can see 1094 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,159 the distance between the little horizontal branches. 1095 00:58:31,420 --> 00:58:33,118 Those are called-- Every place where you got 1096 00:58:33,161 --> 00:58:35,294 horizontal branches coming out, those are called "whirls". 1097 00:58:35,555 --> 00:58:38,819 Each section between the whirls is a year of growth. 1098 00:58:38,863 --> 00:58:40,560 So these trees are seven years old, 1099 00:58:40,604 --> 00:58:42,649 they're eight years old. They're all young trees. 1100 00:58:42,693 --> 00:58:46,174 That are densely packed, planted after the post-fire logging. 1101 00:58:46,697 --> 00:58:49,221 Not only is it very damaging ecologically, 1102 00:58:49,264 --> 00:58:51,528 but it also means that fires tend to burn hotter. 1103 00:58:51,571 --> 00:58:53,268 And that's a very dangerous situation 1104 00:58:53,312 --> 00:58:54,574 when you've got a town nearby. 1105 00:58:56,097 --> 00:58:57,272 LUCY: How much reporting has it been on the Camp Fire? 1106 00:58:57,316 --> 00:58:59,666 And I'm not hearing this story anywhere. 1107 00:58:59,710 --> 00:59:01,929 LUCY: I couldn't help but stare at that area 1108 00:59:01,973 --> 00:59:04,279 that burned so quickly in the first four hours 1109 00:59:04,323 --> 00:59:05,411 of the Camp Fire. 1110 00:59:07,021 --> 00:59:08,414 Because I was realizing all that area marked in black 1111 00:59:08,457 --> 00:59:10,111 had burned in the last major fire 1112 00:59:10,155 --> 00:59:11,809 that happened ten years previously 1113 00:59:11,852 --> 00:59:13,985 and subsequently, had been post-fire logged. 1114 00:59:14,028 --> 00:59:16,074 And so these areas marked in purple, 1115 00:59:16,117 --> 00:59:19,294 they were all Sierra Pacific's young tree plantations. 1116 00:59:19,338 --> 00:59:22,384 All dense trees less than ten years old. 1117 00:59:22,646 --> 00:59:24,952 You get fire into those young plantations. 1118 00:59:25,257 --> 00:59:27,607 They get incinerated, in fact, vaporized 1119 00:59:27,651 --> 00:59:28,826 is probably a more accurate word. 1120 00:59:30,305 --> 00:59:31,698 And that's because all the crowns are interlocked 1121 00:59:31,742 --> 00:59:33,047 and they're really close to the ground. 1122 00:59:33,091 --> 00:59:34,658 So when a fire comes through, 1123 00:59:34,701 --> 00:59:36,573 it immediately just torches up into one 1124 00:59:36,616 --> 00:59:38,444 and then spreads through the whole thing. 1125 00:59:39,097 --> 00:59:42,317 As it pressed in this ridge, it was in Concow in 15 minutes. 1126 00:59:42,579 --> 00:59:44,972 I don't think, with any of us, have ever experienced 1127 00:59:45,016 --> 00:59:46,844 a wildfire that quick. 1128 00:59:47,496 --> 00:59:48,802 CHAD: That's incredibly fast. 1129 00:59:48,846 --> 00:59:50,935 It's the fastest forest fire in California. 1130 00:59:51,718 --> 00:59:53,764 Fires just wick through those areas 1131 00:59:54,112 --> 00:59:56,244 and like these things are matchsticks. 1132 00:59:57,071 --> 00:59:59,160 This is the story about the Camp Fire. 1133 00:59:59,465 --> 01:00:01,032 These post-fire logging operations 1134 01:00:01,075 --> 01:00:03,034 are making fires burn faster and hotter. 1135 01:00:03,382 --> 01:00:04,818 I mean, I'm not sure how you could be 1136 01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:07,168 more heavily logged than what we're looking at here. 1137 01:00:07,212 --> 01:00:10,345 This is industrial forestry at its kind of maximum. 1138 01:00:10,868 --> 01:00:14,001 And what we saw is fire burning at its maximum. 1139 01:00:14,959 --> 01:00:16,743 PETE: One of my good friends Richard Brown 1140 01:00:16,787 --> 01:00:18,527 you know, passed away in this fire. 1141 01:00:19,267 --> 01:00:23,358 Red Emmerson is obviously a very good businessman, 1142 01:00:23,663 --> 01:00:25,056 but these clear-cuts 1143 01:00:25,317 --> 01:00:27,362 are nothing more than ignition points. 1144 01:00:28,189 --> 01:00:31,279 The fire spread through this area right down there 1145 01:00:31,323 --> 01:00:33,673 toward Concow Lake and the community of Concow, 1146 01:00:33,717 --> 01:00:36,067 where 12 people out of 300 were killed, 1147 01:00:36,371 --> 01:00:37,851 because the fire just moved so fast 1148 01:00:37,895 --> 01:00:39,592 and there just wasn't time to evacuate. 1149 01:00:40,027 --> 01:00:42,508 And then it kept going through more post-fire logged areas 1150 01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:44,989 very, very rapidly up over the ridge 1151 01:00:45,032 --> 01:00:46,164 and into Paradise 1152 01:00:46,468 --> 01:00:47,948 where far more people were killed. 1153 01:00:49,471 --> 01:00:52,431 LUCY: Every fire from the tiniest BiC flame 1154 01:00:52,474 --> 01:00:55,347 to the sun itself doesn't want to go out. 1155 01:00:55,608 --> 01:00:59,481 It tries its hardest to stay alive as do we all. 1156 01:01:00,352 --> 01:01:03,485 Standing up there looking down over that whole area 1157 01:01:03,529 --> 01:01:06,010 which I'd traveled around talking to so many people, 1158 01:01:06,358 --> 01:01:08,403 hearing their stories of so much suffering, 1159 01:01:08,447 --> 01:01:11,406 so much trauma, so much loss, so much death, 1160 01:01:12,146 --> 01:01:14,888 it was so clear that all our disruptions 1161 01:01:14,932 --> 01:01:17,630 of this landscape were benefiting the fires 1162 01:01:18,109 --> 01:01:19,240 and not us. 1163 01:01:20,415 --> 01:01:26,117 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1164 01:01:28,859 --> 01:01:30,817 CALIN: How do you not feel like you failed? 1165 01:01:32,123 --> 01:01:33,994 I mean it's all on the ground. 1166 01:01:37,215 --> 01:01:38,607 I'm a firefighter 1167 01:01:39,130 --> 01:01:41,393 and this fire just destroyed this town. 1168 01:01:45,049 --> 01:01:50,532 How do I live with that feeling of, "Did you do enough?" 1169 01:01:52,143 --> 01:01:54,188 FIREMAN: And a lot of firemen that saw a lot of bad things 1170 01:01:54,232 --> 01:01:56,495 that day that are questioning whether or not 1171 01:01:56,538 --> 01:01:58,323 they want to continue their career as firemen. 1172 01:01:58,802 --> 01:02:00,151 BRAD: Yes.So. 1173 01:02:00,194 --> 01:02:01,979 BRAD: A lot of death, a lot of people burned up. 1174 01:02:02,022 --> 01:02:04,590 Yeah.A lot of ugly, a lot of ugly. 1175 01:02:04,633 --> 01:02:07,767 MALE VOICE: Yes. We had a lot of regular patients 1176 01:02:07,811 --> 01:02:09,856 that we went to on a regular basis to help 1177 01:02:10,552 --> 01:02:12,250 through the past ten, 15, 20 years 1178 01:02:12,293 --> 01:02:15,383 and then going to those homes and finding their remains. 1179 01:02:15,427 --> 01:02:18,082 That's probably the worst. 1180 01:02:21,346 --> 01:02:24,479 Officer: We don't really get that time to process and mourn, 1181 01:02:24,523 --> 01:02:26,220 because the fire is still burning. 1182 01:02:29,397 --> 01:02:30,747 JASON: "I could've saved more people, 1183 01:02:30,790 --> 01:02:33,140 could've saved that house. I could've done more. 1184 01:02:33,184 --> 01:02:34,751 I could've done more," you question yourself. 1185 01:02:36,753 --> 01:02:38,363 MATT: When you roll the incident through your head 1186 01:02:38,406 --> 01:02:40,321 right before bed, when your brain takes over, 1187 01:02:40,844 --> 01:02:42,106 and start saying, 1188 01:02:43,629 --> 01:02:45,283 "What if the winds went this way that day? 1189 01:02:45,326 --> 01:02:47,024 What if I could have done...", you know your rational side 1190 01:02:47,067 --> 01:02:48,634 has to come in and say, "You would have died 1191 01:02:48,677 --> 01:02:49,809 if you had tried that 1192 01:02:51,202 --> 01:02:52,072 or you would have just killed your crew." 1193 01:02:53,421 --> 01:02:54,509 I'll be re-playing for a long time. 1194 01:03:02,866 --> 01:03:07,609 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1195 01:03:14,747 --> 01:03:16,357 BRAD: You enjoyed all the company, ma? 1196 01:03:16,705 --> 01:03:17,794 Oh yeah. 1197 01:03:17,837 --> 01:03:21,798 You need some Cheerios, spaghetti? 1198 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,192 Well, now then you hit it.You want spaghetti? 1199 01:03:25,932 --> 01:03:27,804 All right. I'll get you some spaghetti. 1200 01:03:28,674 --> 01:03:29,675 Love you. 1201 01:03:30,981 --> 01:03:33,374 I sure love you, honey, like with all of me. 1202 01:03:34,288 --> 01:03:37,074 There are 20 people living here. 1203 01:03:38,379 --> 01:03:40,381 From three before the fire. 1204 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,082 The little trailer, that was a donation. 1205 01:03:45,647 --> 01:03:48,346 Somebody said, "Use that long as you want." 1206 01:03:48,389 --> 01:03:51,001 That one we bought cheap. That one we bought cheap. 1207 01:03:51,305 --> 01:03:53,177 LUCY: How do you describe what's going on here? 1208 01:03:54,352 --> 01:03:55,483 Small commune. 1209 01:03:56,789 --> 01:03:58,660 Small commune, you know there's 20 of us. 1210 01:03:58,704 --> 01:04:00,184 I guess that qualifies. 1211 01:04:02,882 --> 01:04:04,275 LUCY: What do you-- What was that look for? 1212 01:04:04,318 --> 01:04:07,713 [LAUGHS] You know, just that occasional, uh-oh. 1213 01:04:08,540 --> 01:04:10,194 LUCY: Why's that?I miss her. 1214 01:04:14,328 --> 01:04:16,548 I try not to think about those things. 1215 01:04:17,984 --> 01:04:19,899 Think about the depressing things, 1216 01:04:19,943 --> 01:04:21,118 this happens. 1217 01:04:21,858 --> 01:04:23,511 So I don't like to think about it. 1218 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,560 Stay on the other side. 1219 01:04:33,608 --> 01:04:36,350 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1220 01:04:36,394 --> 01:04:39,440 MALE VOICE: Okay, can you please just give me a moment here please. 1221 01:04:39,484 --> 01:04:41,268 And then we don't tone it down. 1222 01:04:41,312 --> 01:04:43,444 And find a direction, so that we can move forward 1223 01:04:43,488 --> 01:04:45,359 this so that when the east end of Malibu burns, 1224 01:04:45,403 --> 01:04:46,926 we can say, "We addressed it." 1225 01:04:46,970 --> 01:04:49,015 Because in the next couple of years the east end of town 1226 01:04:49,059 --> 01:04:51,104 is gonna burn.[INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1227 01:04:51,148 --> 01:04:52,671 REVA: Hi, everybody. I'm Reva Feldman. 1228 01:04:52,714 --> 01:04:55,674 I am the city manager.[AUDIENCE BOOING] 1229 01:04:55,717 --> 01:04:58,503 FEMALE VOICE: Oh, let her talk a minute, geez. 1230 01:04:59,330 --> 01:05:00,722 I didn't start the fire 1231 01:05:00,766 --> 01:05:02,855 and I am not responsible for putting out the fire, 1232 01:05:02,899 --> 01:05:04,944 so you're booing is inappropriate. 1233 01:05:05,292 --> 01:05:07,207 That's why the fire department is here. 1234 01:05:07,251 --> 01:05:10,645 They're here on my request to answer these questions. 1235 01:05:11,081 --> 01:05:12,560 ED: Everybody wants to blame 1236 01:05:12,604 --> 01:05:14,258 somebody for their house burning down. 1237 01:05:15,215 --> 01:05:17,174 Well, they'll look for anything to blame. 1238 01:05:19,654 --> 01:05:22,266 This is gonna get wild. 1239 01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:23,789 MALE VOICE: Well, my son was right there. 1240 01:05:23,832 --> 01:05:25,269 We saved our house. I didn't...I don't-- 1241 01:05:25,312 --> 01:05:26,966 ...see one firefighter the entire time. 1242 01:05:27,314 --> 01:05:29,186 There were more children fighting the fire 1243 01:05:29,229 --> 01:05:31,057 than there were firefighters in Malibu park. 1244 01:05:31,101 --> 01:05:32,885 Well, I can tell you this--FEMALE VOICE: I wanna know 1245 01:05:33,103 --> 01:05:34,974 who was giving those orders 1246 01:05:35,018 --> 01:05:36,454 specifically.The-- yeah-- 1247 01:05:36,497 --> 01:05:38,804 FEMALE VOICE: There are 19 homes on my street 1248 01:05:38,847 --> 01:05:41,024 and the adjacent street burned to the ground. 1249 01:05:41,067 --> 01:05:44,897 What policemen, what policemen?[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING] 1250 01:05:44,941 --> 01:05:47,682 Easy and everybody here-- 1251 01:05:47,726 --> 01:05:49,728 MALE VOICE 2: I came up here in 1978. 1252 01:05:50,511 --> 01:05:53,166 My engine alone saved eight houses on Bush Drive. 1253 01:05:53,471 --> 01:05:55,690 You see a fire, you go put it out. 1254 01:05:55,734 --> 01:05:57,127 What happened to that?[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING] 1255 01:05:57,170 --> 01:05:58,780 What happened to that? 1256 01:06:00,826 --> 01:06:02,741 [AUDIENCE CHEERING] 1257 01:06:04,264 --> 01:06:08,834 It kind of disappointing, hurtful, frustrating 1258 01:06:09,052 --> 01:06:11,619 when you hear this stuff and know that you know, 1259 01:06:11,663 --> 01:06:13,143 I haven't seen my family in eight days. 1260 01:06:13,578 --> 01:06:15,884 We threw everything in the world at this. 1261 01:06:15,928 --> 01:06:18,365 But when you have a 150 square miles, 1262 01:06:18,409 --> 01:06:20,715 you're not gonna get a fire engine at every house. 1263 01:06:21,064 --> 01:06:23,544 There's 3,700 badge sworn personnel 1264 01:06:23,588 --> 01:06:25,677 in the fire department for LA County 1265 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,984 and there wasn't one person at home. 1266 01:06:28,506 --> 01:06:30,247 FIREFIGHER: One of the stages of grief is anger. 1267 01:06:30,290 --> 01:06:32,771 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1268 01:06:32,814 --> 01:06:35,295 We just have to let people go through those stages 1269 01:06:35,339 --> 01:06:38,864 however they need to to grieve the loss of their home. 1270 01:06:40,518 --> 01:06:43,477 In northern California, they blamed the trees and environmental community. 1271 01:06:43,912 --> 01:06:45,436 And then in southern California, 1272 01:06:45,479 --> 01:06:47,655 they blamed the firefighters and the environmental community. 1273 01:06:48,004 --> 01:06:49,483 I remember after the Cedar Fire, 1274 01:06:50,180 --> 01:06:52,399 they were literally throwing rocks at fire engines. 1275 01:06:54,097 --> 01:06:56,229 In truth, the people who live in these areas, 1276 01:06:56,273 --> 01:06:59,276 they won't even pay the taxes to have more firefighters. 1277 01:06:59,319 --> 01:07:02,714 After the catastrophic fires in 2003, 1278 01:07:02,757 --> 01:07:05,412 there was measure on the ballot to increase taxes 1279 01:07:05,673 --> 01:07:08,328 to pay for more firefighters was voted down. 1280 01:07:08,633 --> 01:07:11,375 And many people don't realize who fights fires. 1281 01:07:11,418 --> 01:07:16,336 Forty percent of the firefighting force are prisoners. 1282 01:07:16,945 --> 01:07:19,470 So California for years has basically been using 1283 01:07:19,731 --> 01:07:22,603 slave labor to fight these fires. 1284 01:07:23,256 --> 01:07:24,997 There's just so many firefighters. 1285 01:07:25,041 --> 01:07:26,042 You can't have-- 1286 01:07:27,434 --> 01:07:29,045 there's just no way they can save these communities. 1287 01:07:29,088 --> 01:07:30,872 It's not physically possible. 1288 01:07:30,916 --> 01:07:33,788 You can't do it with these monster storms 1289 01:07:33,832 --> 01:07:35,964 and I still don't think the public understands that. 1290 01:07:39,446 --> 01:07:40,926 Point fingers in other directions 1291 01:07:40,969 --> 01:07:42,058 other than yourself. 1292 01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:43,972 It's what they're all doing. 1293 01:07:45,539 --> 01:07:46,845 LUCY: It came out with the fires in Paradise and Malibu 1294 01:07:46,888 --> 01:07:48,716 had been started by electric companies. 1295 01:07:49,152 --> 01:07:50,849 LYNNIE: Everybody saying, "Oh, PG and E. 1296 01:07:50,892 --> 01:07:52,068 We should sue PG and E." 1297 01:07:53,373 --> 01:07:55,462 Let me tell you if it weren't for PG and E, 1298 01:07:55,506 --> 01:07:56,985 there would be no Paradise. 1299 01:07:57,029 --> 01:08:00,119 They're tasked with an impossible job of mus-- 1300 01:08:00,163 --> 01:08:02,339 moving huge amounts of electricity 1301 01:08:02,382 --> 01:08:03,818 through wilderness areas. 1302 01:08:04,167 --> 01:08:08,823 And when it's already dry, static electricity from anything 1303 01:08:08,867 --> 01:08:11,783 can start a fire. [MIMICS STATIC] Anything. 1304 01:08:15,003 --> 01:08:16,744 LUCY: Like this gender reveal party 1305 01:08:16,788 --> 01:08:18,094 in the Arizona suburb, 1306 01:08:18,964 --> 01:08:21,445 the blue smoke lets you know that it's a boy 1307 01:08:21,488 --> 01:08:24,012 and his father was fined eight million dollars 1308 01:08:24,056 --> 01:08:27,103 for starting this 47,000 acre fire. 1309 01:08:27,407 --> 01:08:29,017 MALE VOICE: Start packing up!FEMALE VOICE: Huh? 1310 01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:30,541 MALE VOICE: Start packing up! 1311 01:08:32,151 --> 01:08:32,934 LUCY: So you're probably thinking that that was the only 1312 01:08:32,978 --> 01:08:33,761 gender reveal party 1313 01:08:35,198 --> 01:08:36,242 that caused a major multimillion-dollar fire. 1314 01:08:37,591 --> 01:08:39,071 But there's been another. The El Dorado Fire. 1315 01:08:39,332 --> 01:08:41,073 And it killed a firefighter. 1316 01:08:41,552 --> 01:08:45,251 And in 2020, the record-breaking mega fires were started by... 1317 01:08:45,295 --> 01:08:46,731 [THUNDER RUMBLES] 1318 01:08:46,774 --> 01:08:47,949 ...dry lightning... 1319 01:08:49,212 --> 01:08:52,215 the weather, who do you blame then? 1320 01:08:53,041 --> 01:08:55,043 With all talk about the new normal, 1321 01:08:55,261 --> 01:08:56,741 I'm only realizing now 1322 01:08:56,784 --> 01:09:00,223 that the normal normal already had a lot of fires. 1323 01:09:01,267 --> 01:09:02,660 Take Paradise. 1324 01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:05,532 In the 20 years leading up to the Camp Fire, 1325 01:09:05,576 --> 01:09:07,969 there had been 13 major fires 1326 01:09:08,666 --> 01:09:10,407 and there've already been two since, 1327 01:09:10,711 --> 01:09:13,236 including the 2020 Bear Fire that burned 1328 01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:16,587 right up to the campfire scar and killed 16. 1329 01:09:17,849 --> 01:09:19,590 BRAD: My mom lost her house as a child. 1330 01:09:20,330 --> 01:09:23,202 When we were children, we lost our house twice. 1331 01:09:24,334 --> 01:09:27,424 Since I've been an adult, I've lost my house twice. 1332 01:09:27,467 --> 01:09:28,947 All to fire. 1333 01:09:28,990 --> 01:09:30,862 MIKE: You look at Malibu and Paradise. 1334 01:09:31,254 --> 01:09:33,995 Both these areas burn all the time. 1335 01:09:34,561 --> 01:09:36,259 There's nothing new here. 1336 01:09:36,302 --> 01:09:38,130 ED HERLIHY: A rush in forest fire that menaces 1337 01:09:38,174 --> 01:09:40,306 the swank Hollywood colony of Malibu. 1338 01:09:40,654 --> 01:09:43,091 LUCY: I found films about Malibu burning in the 1940s, 1339 01:09:43,614 --> 01:09:47,183 the 1950s, the 1960s, and the 1970s. 1340 01:09:47,226 --> 01:09:49,141 REPORTER: Strong winds was blowing it southern. 1341 01:09:49,185 --> 01:09:52,144 The houses in the path of the fire stood no chance. 1342 01:09:52,753 --> 01:09:54,190 MALE VOICE: It was like a roar. 1343 01:09:54,233 --> 01:09:56,192 I never heard anything like that before. 1344 01:09:56,235 --> 01:09:58,455 It sounded almost maybe, war-like. 1345 01:10:00,021 --> 01:10:02,372 Millions-of-dollars-worth of houses burnt. 1346 01:10:03,329 --> 01:10:06,289 REPORTER: The approach of the Los Angeles Fire department now 1347 01:10:06,332 --> 01:10:09,292 is to prevent any fire however small. 1348 01:10:11,424 --> 01:10:14,297 GLENN: Yeah, I'm wondering if the '61 fire 1349 01:10:14,340 --> 01:10:17,691 was a one in a million chance that couldn't happen again. 1350 01:10:18,649 --> 01:10:22,000 Or could it be that someday when the Santa Ana is blowing 1351 01:10:22,696 --> 01:10:24,698 and the brush is tinder-dry, 1352 01:10:25,177 --> 01:10:27,310 the whole story would be repeated. 1353 01:10:27,745 --> 01:10:30,530 LUCY: Well, 57 fires have burned through Malibu 1354 01:10:30,574 --> 01:10:32,053 since he asked that question. 1355 01:10:35,579 --> 01:10:37,581 And it's not just Paradise and Malibu. 1356 01:10:37,885 --> 01:10:42,716 The Tubbs Fire in California's Wine Country in 2017 killed 22. 1357 01:10:43,021 --> 01:10:44,805 And everyone was so shocked 1358 01:10:45,066 --> 01:10:46,242 that it had happened where it had. 1359 01:10:47,678 --> 01:10:49,201 But a fire with exactly the same footprint 1360 01:10:49,506 --> 01:10:51,334 had burned in 1964. 1361 01:10:51,377 --> 01:10:54,293 And what we should be shocked at is that it hadn't stopped 1362 01:10:54,337 --> 01:10:56,426 the construction of thousands of homes 1363 01:10:56,730 --> 01:10:58,341 right in the line of fire. 1364 01:10:59,124 --> 01:11:01,082 HALSEY: I don't understand why you can have 1365 01:11:01,126 --> 01:11:03,650 literally hundreds of people dying and homes destroyed, 1366 01:11:03,694 --> 01:11:05,565 and we keep going back to what we're doing. 1367 01:11:05,609 --> 01:11:07,263 Actually what we do is we do more 1368 01:11:07,306 --> 01:11:08,960 of what we've always been doing. 1369 01:11:09,917 --> 01:11:11,397 LUCY: Twenty-two people were killed 1370 01:11:11,441 --> 01:11:14,835 in the 2018 debris flow caused by the Thomas Fire. 1371 01:11:15,314 --> 01:11:17,751 And the Thomas Fire came through here pretty hard. 1372 01:11:18,012 --> 01:11:20,406 LUCY: And I found a Woody Guthrie song from the '60s 1373 01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:22,321 and a John McPhee article from the '80s 1374 01:11:22,365 --> 01:11:25,150 that could have described the exact same incident. 1375 01:11:25,193 --> 01:11:27,892 So when people move in, doesn't anyone mention to them 1376 01:11:27,935 --> 01:11:30,111 how the previous residents were killed? 1377 01:11:30,155 --> 01:11:31,765 I mean how many deaths do we have to have? 1378 01:11:31,809 --> 01:11:34,115 How many communities, how many thousands of houses 1379 01:11:34,420 --> 01:11:37,118 does it go before we even have a serious discussion. 1380 01:11:38,903 --> 01:11:40,861 LUCY: So let's do it. 1381 01:11:41,471 --> 01:11:43,124 Let's have that serious discussion. 1382 01:11:44,082 --> 01:11:47,694 Between 40 and 50 percent of all the new housing 1383 01:11:47,738 --> 01:11:50,218 in California in the last 20 years 1384 01:11:50,262 --> 01:11:52,612 is built in hazardous fire areas. 1385 01:11:55,136 --> 01:11:57,051 HALSEY: There's this funny term called "the WUI". 1386 01:11:57,443 --> 01:12:00,011 Stands for Wildland Urban Interface. 1387 01:12:00,751 --> 01:12:03,188 And WUI all it is is like where we live 1388 01:12:03,231 --> 01:12:04,320 next to wildland areas. 1389 01:12:05,973 --> 01:12:07,279 LYNNIE: And society is grown so much, it's pushing us 1390 01:12:07,323 --> 01:12:10,064 more and more on the fringes of these areas. 1391 01:12:10,413 --> 01:12:12,328 You're gonna see more catastrophic fires. 1392 01:12:12,371 --> 01:12:13,894 You're gonna see more dead people. 1393 01:12:13,938 --> 01:12:15,940 This is only the beginning.LUCY: How come? 1394 01:12:15,983 --> 01:12:18,682 'Cause there's a 100,000 towns like Paradise. 1395 01:12:20,336 --> 01:12:24,557 Right within driving distance. 1396 01:12:25,384 --> 01:12:28,082 This community I live in, if you drive around here, 1397 01:12:28,126 --> 01:12:29,432 you can look-- you wanna know what Paradise 1398 01:12:29,475 --> 01:12:31,303 looked like before the fire, drive on out to Sierra. 1399 01:12:31,695 --> 01:12:33,174 Right up the hill here. 1400 01:12:33,218 --> 01:12:35,612 Five thousand homes and there's only one way out. 1401 01:12:36,003 --> 01:12:37,657 There's a 100,000 people in this county 1402 01:12:37,701 --> 01:12:38,745 that would have to evacuate. 1403 01:12:40,268 --> 01:12:42,009 What if we're sitting here talking about 3,700 fatalities? 1404 01:12:42,662 --> 01:12:44,882 We were that close to having that type of incident. 1405 01:12:46,013 --> 01:12:47,450 I think about that quite a bit. 1406 01:12:47,928 --> 01:12:51,018 I've been in every major fire in the state since 1990 1407 01:12:51,367 --> 01:12:53,281 and you know what, I've never been to a community 1408 01:12:53,325 --> 01:12:54,892 that had that much meticulous planning. 1409 01:12:55,153 --> 01:12:56,850 We had planned for fires 1410 01:12:56,894 --> 01:13:00,941 and a fire very similar to this one happened in 2008 1411 01:13:01,246 --> 01:13:05,206 and we didn't have a real good system 1412 01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:08,253 for evacuation. So we came up with a new plan. 1413 01:13:08,688 --> 01:13:11,909 The town was divided into zones with all the lanes 1414 01:13:11,952 --> 01:13:15,129 going out of town. We practiced that. 1415 01:13:16,566 --> 01:13:19,133 To empty this place out as quick as we did, I was-- 1416 01:13:19,699 --> 01:13:21,875 I was pretty happy with how that came out. 1417 01:13:22,615 --> 01:13:24,530 The plan worked, the plan worked well. 1418 01:13:24,574 --> 01:13:25,836 And it's because we practiced it. 1419 01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:31,189 I don't see how they can call wholesale fucking abandon 1420 01:13:31,232 --> 01:13:33,104 running, screaming down the street 1421 01:13:33,147 --> 01:13:35,367 leaving your car behind a success. 1422 01:13:35,411 --> 01:13:36,629 They should be thankful 1423 01:13:36,673 --> 01:13:38,631 the whole fucking town didn't die. 1424 01:13:39,632 --> 01:13:44,332 What we didn't anticipate is evacuating the entire town 1425 01:13:44,376 --> 01:13:45,421 all at once. 1426 01:13:46,726 --> 01:13:49,033 It is not possible to build a roadway system 1427 01:13:49,076 --> 01:13:51,557 that will take your entire population 1428 01:13:51,601 --> 01:13:54,430 all at the same time. No city has that. 1429 01:13:54,778 --> 01:13:57,911 Clearly, evacuation of 30,000 people 1430 01:13:57,955 --> 01:14:00,784 during a wind-driven forest fire is impossible. 1431 01:14:01,654 --> 01:14:04,352 Even just planning an evacuation gives people 1432 01:14:04,396 --> 01:14:06,006 this kinda false sense of security 1433 01:14:06,050 --> 01:14:07,051 that it's actually possible. 1434 01:14:08,835 --> 01:14:11,011 All these places, it's their wind tunnels. 1435 01:14:11,359 --> 01:14:13,536 They're very productive, they grow lots of vegetation. 1436 01:14:14,798 --> 01:14:16,539 And then we go, and we build a bunch of 1437 01:14:16,582 --> 01:14:18,323 little wood stick houses and then we burn them 1438 01:14:18,366 --> 01:14:19,411 and people go, "Oh". 1439 01:14:20,978 --> 01:14:24,851 MIKE: Behind all this is the lack of regional planning 1440 01:14:25,286 --> 01:14:27,985 to control development into hazardous areas. 1441 01:14:30,117 --> 01:14:33,512 Even people who live in developed neighborhoods 1442 01:14:33,556 --> 01:14:37,995 with green lawns not in sight of any brush or chaparral 1443 01:14:38,038 --> 01:14:40,911 or forests at all. Their neighborhoods can burn. 1444 01:14:42,303 --> 01:14:44,784 That's the new reality and it frankly, 1445 01:14:44,828 --> 01:14:47,483 scares a lot of people to death for good reason. 1446 01:14:48,266 --> 01:14:50,181 Could Los Angeles burn? 1447 01:14:50,573 --> 01:14:53,140 The urban fabric itself, absolutely. 1448 01:14:53,184 --> 01:14:55,534 Easily imagine a Laurel Canyon fire 1449 01:14:55,578 --> 01:14:59,669 that ended up on Hollywood or Sunset Boulevard. 1450 01:15:00,496 --> 01:15:02,585 These areas where fire's inevitable, 1451 01:15:03,455 --> 01:15:06,458 should be public lands. They should be parks. 1452 01:15:08,286 --> 01:15:12,116 Back in the 1920s, the most famous urban planners, 1453 01:15:12,159 --> 01:15:14,510 the Olmsted Brothers came to LA 1454 01:15:14,771 --> 01:15:18,209 and did this comprehensive study and they argued that 1455 01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:20,385 people who want to live in the mountains, 1456 01:15:20,428 --> 01:15:23,867 they should live essentially in cabins. 1457 01:15:24,911 --> 01:15:27,435 And structures of very little value 1458 01:15:27,740 --> 01:15:30,177 and not keep great possessions there. 1459 01:15:30,221 --> 01:15:32,702 Because fire is inevitable. 1460 01:15:34,530 --> 01:15:35,618 LUCY: Imagine that. 1461 01:15:37,184 --> 01:15:38,316 Carefree little cabins that you could just let burn, 1462 01:15:39,056 --> 01:15:40,971 but a hundred years on it's clear 1463 01:15:41,624 --> 01:15:43,495 that we didn't go in that direction. 1464 01:15:43,539 --> 01:15:46,324 [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING, CHEERING ] 1465 01:15:46,585 --> 01:15:49,370 MALE VOICE: Kim Kardashian addressed her and Kanye's decision 1466 01:15:49,414 --> 01:15:52,591 to hire private firefighters to protect their home 1467 01:15:52,635 --> 01:15:54,332 from the wildfires.[HELICOPTER BLADES WHIRRING] 1468 01:15:54,375 --> 01:15:56,160 We were fortunate enough and I know that 1469 01:15:56,203 --> 01:15:59,163 not everyone has this luxury available to them, 1470 01:15:59,206 --> 01:16:01,513 but we were able to get private firefighters. 1471 01:16:01,557 --> 01:16:03,210 A company that you can hire. 1472 01:16:03,515 --> 01:16:05,386 They saved our home, and you know, 1473 01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:07,606 that was such a blessing that we were able to do that. 1474 01:16:07,650 --> 01:16:09,042 There's a private for everything.[CHUCKLES] 1475 01:16:09,086 --> 01:16:11,262 Right, you can get a...But I do-- 1476 01:16:11,305 --> 01:16:13,481 it's just like a-- it's an interesting issue 1477 01:16:13,525 --> 01:16:15,658 that you know, as climate change is happening, 1478 01:16:15,701 --> 01:16:17,311 as these issues are coming up, 1479 01:16:17,355 --> 01:16:19,618 is it going to be the people with money 1480 01:16:19,662 --> 01:16:21,707 that are able to protect their stuff? 1481 01:16:21,968 --> 01:16:24,580 BYOB. Bring Your Own Brigade. 1482 01:16:25,102 --> 01:16:28,409 Some people are wealthy enough to have their own brigades. 1483 01:16:28,453 --> 01:16:30,890 And it seems to be growing more and more every year. 1484 01:16:30,934 --> 01:16:32,588 There's more and more trucks we see. 1485 01:16:32,849 --> 01:16:34,111 I mean I've gone to a couple fires. 1486 01:16:34,154 --> 01:16:35,416 We pull up to our houses 1487 01:16:35,460 --> 01:16:39,246 and there's five other trucks on scene 1488 01:16:39,290 --> 01:16:41,684 and none of 'em are from the county or from the city. 1489 01:16:41,727 --> 01:16:43,076 They're all private. 1490 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,817 In some cases, homeowners will be out saying, 1491 01:16:44,861 --> 01:16:46,950 "Hey, you know, fire's in my backyard, 1492 01:16:46,993 --> 01:16:48,908 but that's where we got that." 1493 01:16:49,779 --> 01:16:51,737 If you're not on list, the bad rap. 1494 01:16:52,303 --> 01:16:55,132 So that's kind of the difference between us and them. 1495 01:16:55,175 --> 01:16:57,134 You know, we're going to a specific house 1496 01:16:57,177 --> 01:16:59,136 to where they are going to all the houses. 1497 01:17:00,354 --> 01:17:02,618 HALSEY: So you're wondering why do we approve buildings, 1498 01:17:02,661 --> 01:17:05,229 and homes, and communities in places that are dangerous. 1499 01:17:05,795 --> 01:17:08,275 And all I can say it's fundamentally about money. 1500 01:17:09,059 --> 01:17:11,452 DAVE: Right now a County that's approving a new subdivision 1501 01:17:11,496 --> 01:17:12,628 in the Wildland Urban Interface, 1502 01:17:14,107 --> 01:17:15,108 they don't bear any liability for that decision. 1503 01:17:16,806 --> 01:17:18,808 But when the fire comes, the cost of that decision 1504 01:17:19,112 --> 01:17:21,941 is borne by the insurer, by the families themselves, 1505 01:17:21,985 --> 01:17:25,031 by federal and state emergency responders. 1506 01:17:25,075 --> 01:17:27,686 So we have this disconnect between who bears the cost 1507 01:17:27,730 --> 01:17:30,820 of this decision and who, ultimately makes this decision. 1508 01:17:31,298 --> 01:17:32,517 And it's a problem. 1509 01:17:34,171 --> 01:17:35,607 DON: Following the fire, a lot of insurance companies 1510 01:17:35,651 --> 01:17:37,217 started sending non-renewal notices out. 1511 01:17:37,696 --> 01:17:39,219 Not even within the fire footprint, 1512 01:17:39,263 --> 01:17:41,439 I mean just anybody within the Wildland Urban Interface. 1513 01:17:41,482 --> 01:17:43,093 And it's not-- I know it's not just me, it's-- 1514 01:17:43,136 --> 01:17:44,660 it's other land owners, we were facing 1515 01:17:44,703 --> 01:17:45,748 that same problem. 1516 01:17:47,314 --> 01:17:48,925 LUCY: After these fires, insurance companies 1517 01:17:48,968 --> 01:17:51,144 were dropping customers so fast that the state had to impose 1518 01:17:51,188 --> 01:17:55,671 a moratorium, forcing insurers to stay insuring homes from fire 1519 01:17:55,714 --> 01:17:56,889 through 2021. 1520 01:17:58,456 --> 01:18:00,632 But after that when these homes are no longer insurable, 1521 01:18:01,459 --> 01:18:02,808 what's going to happen? 1522 01:18:03,548 --> 01:18:04,941 DAVE: That's the path that we're on. 1523 01:18:05,202 --> 01:18:08,205 It's a march towards a future of uninsurability 1524 01:18:08,248 --> 01:18:09,685 in the Wildland Urban Interface. 1525 01:18:10,686 --> 01:18:12,470 We've got into a place in our own trajectory 1526 01:18:12,513 --> 01:18:15,342 as human beings where we're so confident 1527 01:18:15,386 --> 01:18:19,651 in our ability to control nature and natural events. 1528 01:18:19,912 --> 01:18:23,307 And so we've gotta be a little bit less hubristic. 1529 01:18:24,047 --> 01:18:26,963 CHAR: It's the city who I think oughta be held responsible. 1530 01:18:27,224 --> 01:18:29,966 Homes were okayed by the planning commission 1531 01:18:30,009 --> 01:18:32,838 and the zoning board. It's not the fire station's fault. 1532 01:18:32,882 --> 01:18:34,100 It's city hall's fault. 1533 01:18:35,058 --> 01:18:36,624 FIREFIGHTER: I will tell you this. 1534 01:18:36,668 --> 01:18:39,236 We're gonna do all that we can to help rebuild Malibu. 1535 01:18:39,279 --> 01:18:40,759 But we do have fire codes 1536 01:18:40,803 --> 01:18:42,413 and we have fire codes for a reason. 1537 01:18:43,022 --> 01:18:46,373 Because in the past, people have died, number one, 1538 01:18:47,113 --> 01:18:48,245 and it's for your safety. 1539 01:18:49,768 --> 01:18:50,900 Chief, we've got 3.6 million dollars in the ground 1540 01:18:50,943 --> 01:18:53,293 that we can't sell, we can't use, 1541 01:18:53,337 --> 01:18:54,642 we can't do anything on. 1542 01:18:55,034 --> 01:18:56,122 This is a disaster. 1543 01:18:57,428 --> 01:18:59,473 Who's going to put something into action now, 1544 01:19:00,039 --> 01:19:01,737 so that we can build our home? 1545 01:19:03,608 --> 01:19:04,783 MALIBU COUNCIL MEMBER: Is there any way we could help our residents 1546 01:19:04,827 --> 01:19:06,567 get their homes rebuilt quicker? 1547 01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:10,136 ZEKE: I understand that we need housing, 1548 01:19:10,615 --> 01:19:14,010 but to suspend all planning, just so we can build 1549 01:19:14,053 --> 01:19:17,796 stuff faster, that's fucking crazy. 1550 01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,364 We're just gonna burn those houses up, you know 1551 01:19:20,407 --> 01:19:23,062 and we'll be doing this again in 20 years.[SIREN WAILING] 1552 01:19:23,106 --> 01:19:25,717 CHAD: So we need to accept that there's gonna be fire 1553 01:19:25,935 --> 01:19:29,852 and we need to understand that the goal is to make sure that 1554 01:19:29,895 --> 01:19:32,419 when fire occurs, not if but when, 1555 01:19:32,463 --> 01:19:35,814 that homes don't burn down.[SIRENS WAILING] 1556 01:19:35,858 --> 01:19:37,381 CHAD: What the science is telling us 1557 01:19:37,424 --> 01:19:40,123 is that the only way to protect homes 1558 01:19:40,427 --> 01:19:43,039 is to make the homes themselves more fire-safe. 1559 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:45,737 Most of the homes that are burning 1560 01:19:45,781 --> 01:19:48,261 are not burning from direct contact with flames. 1561 01:19:48,305 --> 01:19:51,438 They're burning from embers that are floating on the winds. 1562 01:19:52,526 --> 01:19:54,746 STEPHEN: What you have is a blizzard of sparks. 1563 01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:57,053 I think of it as a kind of incendiary locust. 1564 01:19:57,096 --> 01:20:00,447 And you've got a million of 'em swarming through this town 1565 01:20:00,491 --> 01:20:02,536 looking for some place they can burn. 1566 01:20:02,798 --> 01:20:04,582 So if there are points of vulnerability, 1567 01:20:04,625 --> 01:20:05,757 they are going to find 'em. 1568 01:20:07,150 --> 01:20:09,500 This thing was a blazing inferno over here. 1569 01:20:11,545 --> 01:20:12,764 I was just sitting on the porch 1570 01:20:12,808 --> 01:20:14,461 smoking a cigarette, watching it burn. 1571 01:20:14,984 --> 01:20:16,028 Poof. 1572 01:20:17,638 --> 01:20:20,119 I have five-eighths in sheetrock and a inch of plaster on this. 1573 01:20:20,641 --> 01:20:23,514 These are baked enamel steel frames. 1574 01:20:24,994 --> 01:20:27,910 And this is high pressure sensitive glass, 1575 01:20:27,953 --> 01:20:29,737 just not quarter inch plate 1576 01:20:29,781 --> 01:20:33,524 it's three-eighths inch heat-resisting glass. 1577 01:20:33,567 --> 01:20:35,482 I wasn't worried about this house one bit. 1578 01:20:36,744 --> 01:20:37,789 There were two houses here. 1579 01:20:37,833 --> 01:20:39,878 This was a pyramid, giant pyramid. 1580 01:20:40,705 --> 01:20:42,881 The pyramid just went... [MIMICS COLLAPSING SOUND] 1581 01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,798 Over here. Their dreams went up in smoke. 1582 01:20:48,234 --> 01:20:49,975 This is where the fire came from. 1583 01:20:50,584 --> 01:20:54,110 You can see how close it came, nothing to burn, 1584 01:20:54,153 --> 01:20:55,851 so the fire just went that way. 1585 01:20:56,416 --> 01:20:58,114 Same on the other side. 1586 01:20:59,376 --> 01:21:02,335 These houses were poorly designed. 1587 01:21:02,683 --> 01:21:07,819 Now let's have a mission house, let's have a Tuscan villa, 1588 01:21:08,211 --> 01:21:09,865 that's what everybody wants now. 1589 01:21:10,430 --> 01:21:14,391 They forget about the eaves and the little things 1590 01:21:14,434 --> 01:21:16,567 stick out that make it a Tuscan villa. 1591 01:21:16,915 --> 01:21:18,090 That's the first thing that goes. 1592 01:21:19,613 --> 01:21:20,788 It gets right up under the eave and blows into the attic. 1593 01:21:22,529 --> 01:21:24,357 So that's why these houses burn. 1594 01:21:25,141 --> 01:21:27,230 Basically, it's stupid houses. 1595 01:21:30,189 --> 01:21:31,756 CHAD: We gotta focus on the homes. 1596 01:21:32,757 --> 01:21:34,237 Let me give you an example. 1597 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:38,850 The La Tuna Fire of 2017, this was a fire that was burning 1598 01:21:38,894 --> 01:21:41,374 as intensely as any fire you can really imagine 1599 01:21:41,418 --> 01:21:44,595 and 1,400 homes in the fire perimeter, 1600 01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:46,249 only five burned. 1601 01:21:46,945 --> 01:21:49,121 Why did only five burn out of 1,400? 1602 01:21:49,165 --> 01:21:51,602 Reason is is that there were annual requirements 1603 01:21:51,950 --> 01:21:53,473 to do defensible space. 1604 01:21:53,691 --> 01:21:55,823 Any time someone wants to do a remodel of their house, 1605 01:21:55,867 --> 01:21:58,000 they say, "Sure, that's fine, but now you're gonna have to 1606 01:21:58,043 --> 01:22:01,003 bring that old house up to date with a fire safe code." 1607 01:22:01,873 --> 01:22:04,180 We have over 99 percent home survival. 1608 01:22:04,223 --> 01:22:06,138 We should all stand up and take notice of that. 1609 01:22:07,313 --> 01:22:10,447 JODY: In Paradise, in 2008 the Wildland Urban Interface 1610 01:22:10,490 --> 01:22:12,492 design standards came into being. 1611 01:22:13,145 --> 01:22:15,278 Fifty-one percent of the structures 1612 01:22:15,321 --> 01:22:17,845 built after 2008 survived. 1613 01:22:18,368 --> 01:22:22,894 Nine percent of the structures built before 2008 survived. 1614 01:22:23,460 --> 01:22:26,854 And what that tells me is that those building standards 1615 01:22:26,898 --> 01:22:28,552 make a difference. 1616 01:22:28,595 --> 01:22:30,946 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1617 01:22:34,123 --> 01:22:35,907 BARRY: Thank you mayor and council members. 1618 01:22:36,821 --> 01:22:39,563 So this evening, we're gonna be making a presentation 1619 01:22:39,606 --> 01:22:43,480 on recovery projects and ideas for upgraded building standards. 1620 01:22:43,741 --> 01:22:45,351 We know what happened here. 1621 01:22:45,395 --> 01:22:47,005 Safety has to be at the forefront 1622 01:22:47,049 --> 01:22:48,528 of every discussion we have. 1623 01:22:48,789 --> 01:22:51,009 The first thing has to do with roof obstructions. 1624 01:22:51,053 --> 01:22:52,663 This is a pretty simple one. 1625 01:22:52,706 --> 01:22:54,795 It's important, because you do have debris on your roofs here 1626 01:22:54,839 --> 01:22:58,234 and with embers coming down they could ignite. 1627 01:22:59,061 --> 01:23:01,541 Gutters, we're saying that they're prohibited 1628 01:23:01,585 --> 01:23:04,196 except over entries and to prevent erosion. 1629 01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,242 And that gives you an awful lot of flexibility. 1630 01:23:07,025 --> 01:23:09,636 Defensible space and related to that 1631 01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,683 is a five-foot setback around any structure. 1632 01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,208 That 5 feet of fire break 1633 01:23:16,252 --> 01:23:18,819 is the most important area around your home. 1634 01:23:20,125 --> 01:23:23,215 The council isn't taking any action tonight. 1635 01:23:23,259 --> 01:23:27,176 We want to hear what you have to say about these ideas. 1636 01:23:27,915 --> 01:23:30,396 Green, you put on things you like.[INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1637 01:23:30,831 --> 01:23:32,485 Red, you put on things you don't like. 1638 01:23:32,529 --> 01:23:34,748 It'll help us to know what you think. 1639 01:23:34,792 --> 01:23:35,880 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1640 01:23:40,928 --> 01:23:43,279 JIM: 1641 01:23:43,583 --> 01:23:45,498 Well, I am a believer in the first five feet. 1642 01:23:46,108 --> 01:23:50,286 That is what research has shown to be one of the most, 1643 01:23:50,329 --> 01:23:55,073 if not the most critical factor in whether a home burns or not. 1644 01:24:10,915 --> 01:24:12,221 All right. All right. 1645 01:24:12,569 --> 01:24:14,266 FEMALE VOICE: 1646 01:24:18,314 --> 01:24:19,837 I thought that would be popular, 1647 01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,666 because leaves do stick up there in the gutters. 1648 01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:24,885 They are a fire hazard and it costs nothing 1649 01:24:24,929 --> 01:24:26,496 not to have them. 1650 01:24:26,539 --> 01:24:28,063 LUCY: It was less than a year before this 1651 01:24:28,106 --> 01:24:30,195 when 85 people were killed in this town 1652 01:24:30,804 --> 01:24:33,633 and there's already been that other fire that killed 16. 1653 01:24:34,112 --> 01:24:35,983 And there'll be more fires soon. 1654 01:24:37,202 --> 01:24:40,901 But the proven safety measures, they were not proving popular. 1655 01:24:42,207 --> 01:24:46,168 This town is going to be so fucking expensive 1656 01:24:46,211 --> 01:24:48,083 to live in when this is done. 1657 01:24:48,344 --> 01:24:50,737 You're not gonna be able to build anything here 1658 01:24:50,781 --> 01:24:52,913 that'll cost less than half a million dollars. 1659 01:24:53,175 --> 01:24:54,132 You're in the forest. 1660 01:24:55,829 --> 01:24:57,483 If the forest catches on fire, my ass is sorry you're burning. 1661 01:24:58,005 --> 01:25:01,096 [WHIRRING] 1662 01:25:04,447 --> 01:25:05,796 BRAD: You want a cookie? 1663 01:25:05,839 --> 01:25:07,885 Always good, ma. Here you go. Bite. 1664 01:25:09,321 --> 01:25:10,975 That'll make you feel better in a little bit, Mama. 1665 01:25:11,497 --> 01:25:13,108 Okay.All right. 1666 01:25:13,586 --> 01:25:16,023 The pot cookies and stuff they help you better 1667 01:25:16,067 --> 01:25:18,504 than anything, huh?That's right. 1668 01:25:18,852 --> 01:25:22,900 He was gonna put me on some kind of a pill 1669 01:25:23,379 --> 01:25:27,339 and I says, "Doctor Alfteen, you know I don't take those." 1670 01:25:28,340 --> 01:25:31,822 He says, "Well, have you ever tried marijuana?" 1671 01:25:32,214 --> 01:25:34,999 He says, "You know, it might do you some good." 1672 01:25:35,826 --> 01:25:39,090 When I told Brad that Brad had made sure 1673 01:25:39,134 --> 01:25:41,223 I got started on marijuana. 1674 01:25:41,745 --> 01:25:44,530 And it worked.Oh my, yes. 1675 01:25:50,841 --> 01:25:53,148 LUCY: There's a piece of trivia about Paradise. 1676 01:25:53,887 --> 01:25:56,847 It is the largest municipality without a sewer 1677 01:25:58,109 --> 01:26:00,894 and I've been wondering will we ever get it together 1678 01:26:00,938 --> 01:26:03,419 to deal with our own crap?[SIREN BLARING] 1679 01:26:04,333 --> 01:26:08,163 ZEKE: It' just like kinda Western anarchy that reaches 1680 01:26:08,206 --> 01:26:11,166 a scale of complexity where the system no longer works. 1681 01:26:11,862 --> 01:26:13,690 Paradise strong![TRUCK ENGINE REVVING] 1682 01:26:13,733 --> 01:26:16,083 [TRUCK HORN HONKING][INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1683 01:26:16,127 --> 01:26:17,520 TRINA: It was the gold rush 1684 01:26:17,998 --> 01:26:19,826 and the mining and extraction eras. 1685 01:26:20,610 --> 01:26:23,047 A lot of the economy of California was built on that 1686 01:26:23,090 --> 01:26:26,050 grab and go. Get as much as we can and then get out. 1687 01:26:27,878 --> 01:26:29,662 STEPHEN: We know how to keep houses from burning. 1688 01:26:29,706 --> 01:26:31,186 We solved the urban fires.[CROWD CHEERING] 1689 01:26:31,577 --> 01:26:33,492 STEPHEN: Yeah, you can do everything for your house, 1690 01:26:33,536 --> 01:26:35,277 but if your neighbors don't do it for theirs, 1691 01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:36,539 you're still at risk. 1692 01:26:38,062 --> 01:26:40,673 Kind of a libertarian contract that Americans think 1693 01:26:40,717 --> 01:26:42,849 they would prefer if it breaks down. 1694 01:26:43,894 --> 01:26:47,114 Fire is that other contagion, wearing masks is like 1695 01:26:47,158 --> 01:26:50,466 controlling embers, aerosol dispersion, 1696 01:26:50,509 --> 01:26:53,295 defensible space, well, it's social distancing. 1697 01:26:53,338 --> 01:26:55,645 The difference is that we don't have a vaccine 1698 01:26:55,688 --> 01:26:57,212 that will eliminate fire. 1699 01:26:57,516 --> 01:27:00,215 Herd immunity comes at a community level 1700 01:27:00,258 --> 01:27:03,479 when you have enough people to provide protection. 1701 01:27:05,176 --> 01:27:06,960 [CROWD SCREAMING] 1702 01:27:07,004 --> 01:27:09,180 MALE VOICE: I totally understand why people want to rebuild 1703 01:27:09,572 --> 01:27:11,051 but I just have this sense of dread 1704 01:27:11,661 --> 01:27:13,271 that they're gonna lose it again. 1705 01:27:13,315 --> 01:27:16,361 This hesitancy to tell people who are in crisis that 1706 01:27:16,405 --> 01:27:18,145 we're gonna put some obstacles in your way. 1707 01:27:18,929 --> 01:27:21,758 It's not really doing people any favors in the long run. 1708 01:27:23,368 --> 01:27:25,457 LUCY: Maybe because I grew up in Europe, 1709 01:27:25,762 --> 01:27:30,070 ideas like American liberty at all costs, manifest destiny, 1710 01:27:30,114 --> 01:27:31,681 self-immolation under the mantra 1711 01:27:31,724 --> 01:27:35,902 of personal freedom seem insurmountably foreign to me. 1712 01:27:39,123 --> 01:27:40,255 [GUNSHOTS] 1713 01:27:42,518 --> 01:27:44,433 [BUZZING] 1714 01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,226 BRAD: Get out the way when that happens. 1715 01:27:56,271 --> 01:27:58,273 Got Mom's 90th birthday today. 1716 01:27:58,316 --> 01:27:59,665 Smile, Mama. 1717 01:28:00,797 --> 01:28:02,189 You look so pretty. 1718 01:28:02,233 --> 01:28:04,104 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1719 01:28:04,366 --> 01:28:06,846 MIC: The drinks are flowing.Ah. 1720 01:28:06,890 --> 01:28:09,284 The music's rolling inside and out. 1721 01:28:09,327 --> 01:28:10,546 Oh good. 1722 01:28:11,590 --> 01:28:14,463 Everything's good, Mom.Wonderful. 1723 01:28:15,028 --> 01:28:16,552 Usually when she doesn't know what she wants. 1724 01:28:16,595 --> 01:28:17,727 She wants a cookie. 1725 01:28:18,467 --> 01:28:20,077 Just give her half of one. 1726 01:28:21,296 --> 01:28:22,514 She said she was uncomfortable. 1727 01:28:22,775 --> 01:28:24,386 Well, that'll help, yeah. 1728 01:28:24,429 --> 01:28:26,039 RO: You know, it's a day by day thing 1729 01:28:26,083 --> 01:28:27,606 and some days are better than others. 1730 01:28:27,650 --> 01:28:28,999 But you know, when we have something 1731 01:28:29,042 --> 01:28:30,609 to look forward to like Mom turning 90. 1732 01:28:31,175 --> 01:28:32,524 FEMALE VOICE: Happy birthday, Nan. 1733 01:28:32,568 --> 01:28:34,352 Hey, thank you, sweetheart. 1734 01:28:34,396 --> 01:28:35,614 All right, last bite. 1735 01:28:37,137 --> 01:28:39,618 I was all, "You already got your cookie for the day," 1736 01:28:39,662 --> 01:28:42,012 she's like, "I hope that wasn't the last one for the day." 1737 01:28:42,055 --> 01:28:44,536 I'm like, "It wasn't."Geez, Ma. 1738 01:28:45,363 --> 01:28:48,148 Should I have a shot for you?Go ahead. 1739 01:28:50,368 --> 01:28:51,804 My house burned, of course. 1740 01:28:52,196 --> 01:28:55,112 Now I live here at Bradopolis. 1741 01:28:55,808 --> 01:28:58,115 [CHUCKLES] Yeah, I got trailer through insurance. 1742 01:29:01,988 --> 01:29:03,468 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1743 01:29:03,947 --> 01:29:05,252 You don't regret any of it, do you? 1744 01:29:05,296 --> 01:29:07,429 NORMA: No.Right on, Mama. 1745 01:29:07,777 --> 01:29:09,213 You know, I love talking to you, Ma. 1746 01:29:10,301 --> 01:29:11,346 Up you go. 1747 01:29:12,956 --> 01:29:16,089 I have had three cookies. 1748 01:29:16,481 --> 01:29:18,918 Are you okay?Oh yeah. 1749 01:29:19,266 --> 01:29:21,834 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1750 01:29:33,498 --> 01:29:35,065 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1751 01:29:36,849 --> 01:29:38,808 JODY: Welcome to the meeting of the Paradise Town Council. 1752 01:29:39,374 --> 01:29:41,201 It's great to see all of you here. 1753 01:29:41,767 --> 01:29:43,508 I think you're all here for 1754 01:29:43,552 --> 01:29:46,163 that's the building code changes. 1755 01:29:47,207 --> 01:29:51,298 We intend to vote on each potential change individually 1756 01:29:51,734 --> 01:29:54,476 And we're first gonna start with public comment. 1757 01:29:57,043 --> 01:29:58,436 A lot of these things are taking away 1758 01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:00,438 from individuality of the town. 1759 01:30:00,482 --> 01:30:02,484 You're telling me if I can't have bark, 1760 01:30:02,527 --> 01:30:06,401 and some plants, and rose plants around my house. 1761 01:30:06,749 --> 01:30:08,620 I think I understand now what you want. 1762 01:30:08,664 --> 01:30:09,882 I was thinking about it. 1763 01:30:09,926 --> 01:30:11,710 We could all buy a hot water heater 1764 01:30:11,754 --> 01:30:13,016 and cut a door in it 1765 01:30:13,059 --> 01:30:15,540 and we'd have an insulated fireproof house. 1766 01:30:15,932 --> 01:30:18,891 FEMALE VOICE: The new homes will already be more fire-safe than before. 1767 01:30:19,326 --> 01:30:22,808 I didn't hear people begging for higher building codes. 1768 01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:26,072 Please let people return and build the homes they want to build. 1769 01:30:26,116 --> 01:30:28,640 A majority of people, I have dealt with 1770 01:30:28,945 --> 01:30:31,904 are under insured if insured at all. 1771 01:30:32,688 --> 01:30:33,950 You have a lot of people 1772 01:30:33,993 --> 01:30:36,169 who may not be able to come back. 1773 01:30:36,953 --> 01:30:41,174 That would reduce this town's property tax revenue 1774 01:30:41,653 --> 01:30:43,481 by a tremendous amount. 1775 01:30:43,525 --> 01:30:45,831 That would affect your police department, 1776 01:30:45,875 --> 01:30:48,443 your fire department, and your schools. 1777 01:30:49,792 --> 01:30:52,577 FEMALE VOICE 2: Paradise is an individualistic town 1778 01:30:52,838 --> 01:30:55,188 that's part of the charm and the quirkiness 1779 01:30:55,232 --> 01:30:58,104 and we don't need consistency or uniformity. 1780 01:30:58,453 --> 01:31:00,933 FEMALE VOICE 3: So shame on you and don't price out 1781 01:31:00,977 --> 01:31:03,501 a large percentage of us Paradise residents 1782 01:31:03,545 --> 01:31:05,634 who love the ridge and we want to come home. 1783 01:31:05,895 --> 01:31:08,071 We don't need to be some kind of experiment 1784 01:31:08,114 --> 01:31:10,203 for the rest of the world. Let people come home. 1785 01:31:10,247 --> 01:31:12,858 'Cause if people come home, we all didn't go away. 1786 01:31:13,119 --> 01:31:17,820 [AUDIENCE CHEERING] 1787 01:31:18,081 --> 01:31:21,388 And we that, we're gonna move onto the presentation. 1788 01:31:23,129 --> 01:31:25,044 Good evening, council members and mayor. 1789 01:31:25,480 --> 01:31:28,221 I think it's important as we report, you remember 1790 01:31:28,265 --> 01:31:31,181 that how homes were destroyed and why homes were destroyed. 1791 01:31:31,790 --> 01:31:34,401 We're gonna show a short video of what we experienced that day. 1792 01:31:36,229 --> 01:31:38,754 As you watch if you can see how important 1793 01:31:38,797 --> 01:31:42,409 some of the safety factors that will be discussed tonight, 1794 01:31:42,453 --> 01:31:44,455 how important they are on survivability 1795 01:31:44,499 --> 01:31:45,500 of the structure. 1796 01:31:46,892 --> 01:31:48,590 So for those of you that said that's unrealistic, 1797 01:31:48,633 --> 01:31:51,462 because it's in a laboratory, I have a quick clip 1798 01:31:51,506 --> 01:31:52,768 from one of our employees. 1799 01:31:52,811 --> 01:31:54,726 This is in Paradise at 9:45 in the morning. 1800 01:31:57,294 --> 01:31:59,644 I had wanted to make sure that it's fresh in everybody's mind 1801 01:31:59,688 --> 01:32:02,429 exactly what took place and there has to be 1802 01:32:02,734 --> 01:32:05,868 a little bit of responsibility of that resident making 1803 01:32:05,911 --> 01:32:09,567 their structure safe for themselves, their neighbor, 1804 01:32:09,872 --> 01:32:11,047 and the community. 1805 01:32:12,483 --> 01:32:16,574 Some of this has to go back on you and I. 1806 01:32:16,618 --> 01:32:18,794 You can't say, I'm gonna move to the foothills, 1807 01:32:18,837 --> 01:32:20,622 where there's trees, brush, and grass 1808 01:32:21,013 --> 01:32:23,276 and not know there's a potential for wildfire. 1809 01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,235 You just-- And not know that you're gonna have to do 1810 01:32:25,278 --> 01:32:27,759 something that increase the likelihood of you 1811 01:32:27,803 --> 01:32:30,849 and your structure surviving if one breaks out. 1812 01:32:31,110 --> 01:32:32,938 If your home doesn't burn down and your neighbor's home 1813 01:32:32,982 --> 01:32:34,592 doesn't burn down, their neighbor home 1814 01:32:34,636 --> 01:32:37,160 doesn't burn down, evacuation route stays open, 1815 01:32:37,203 --> 01:32:38,640 you can get out of town faster. 1816 01:32:39,031 --> 01:32:40,685 You know, there's a compound in effect 1817 01:32:40,729 --> 01:32:43,601 to good development standards. 1818 01:32:44,646 --> 01:32:45,734 Any questions? 1819 01:32:46,517 --> 01:32:49,955 If we could do only one thing 1820 01:32:50,347 --> 01:32:52,610 to be more fire safe, 1821 01:32:52,654 --> 01:32:54,656 what would your recommendation be? 1822 01:32:55,308 --> 01:32:57,659 That five-foot area around your house 1823 01:32:57,702 --> 01:32:58,747 is extremely important. 1824 01:33:00,139 --> 01:33:01,619 That would be the number thing out of all of this 1825 01:33:01,663 --> 01:33:03,969 that I would say that would defend your home the best 1826 01:33:04,013 --> 01:33:05,580 and have the most impact. 1827 01:33:06,145 --> 01:33:07,407 FEMALE VOICE: Thank you very much. 1828 01:33:08,060 --> 01:33:10,628 And now, we'll move to item number one. 1829 01:33:10,672 --> 01:33:13,109 Interior sprinklers required in all homes. 1830 01:33:13,762 --> 01:33:15,590 Crowder?No. 1831 01:33:15,633 --> 01:33:16,982 FEMALE VOICE: Schuster?No. 1832 01:33:17,026 --> 01:33:18,375 FEMALE VOICE: Zuccolillo?No. 1833 01:33:18,636 --> 01:33:20,595 FEMALE VOICE: And Mayor Jones?No. 1834 01:33:20,986 --> 01:33:22,988 FEMALE VOICE: Roof obstruction shall not allow 1835 01:33:23,032 --> 01:33:24,642 for the collection of debris. 1836 01:33:24,686 --> 01:33:26,252 Does anyone want that one? 1837 01:33:26,601 --> 01:33:28,646 That one is no also. 1838 01:33:28,690 --> 01:33:33,477 Minimum 10-inch roof overhang required, direction is also no. 1839 01:33:34,130 --> 01:33:38,700 Garage or storage shed required. So that one is a no also. 1840 01:33:39,222 --> 01:33:41,703 LUCY: It was illuminating to be there in the front row. 1841 01:33:41,746 --> 01:33:43,574 That's me in the white jacket. 1842 01:33:43,922 --> 01:33:45,794 What a civics lesson. 1843 01:33:45,837 --> 01:33:49,275 If this is a process for making change to keep us all alive, 1844 01:33:49,536 --> 01:33:50,973 I think we're in trouble. 1845 01:33:51,016 --> 01:33:53,410 Because these are the proposals that the council members 1846 01:33:53,453 --> 01:33:55,586 had told me they thought would save lives. 1847 01:33:55,630 --> 01:33:58,850 And here they are voting them down one by one. 1848 01:33:59,111 --> 01:34:01,157 This is how hard it is to make a change. 1849 01:34:02,114 --> 01:34:04,639 And here comes the most important proposal, 1850 01:34:05,248 --> 01:34:07,859 five feet of defensible space around the home. 1851 01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,079 JODY: So this is a different way of looking 1852 01:34:10,514 --> 01:34:12,559 at what our houses would look like. 1853 01:34:12,908 --> 01:34:15,388 It's not the way we were raised 1854 01:34:15,432 --> 01:34:18,348 or the way we saw our houses before, 1855 01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:22,874 but it's another one that doesn't cost extra money 1856 01:34:22,918 --> 01:34:25,355 and makes a huge, huge difference. 1857 01:34:25,703 --> 01:34:27,705 FEMALE VOICE: Roll call vote. Vice mayor Bolin? 1858 01:34:27,749 --> 01:34:28,837 GREG: Aye 1859 01:34:29,098 --> 01:34:30,273 FEMALE VOICE: Council member Crowder? 1860 01:34:31,709 --> 01:34:36,366 I would like to see some sort of greenery allowed. 1861 01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:38,716 STEVE: You have people who go around and know 1862 01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,023 a fire-resistant plant from a non-fire resistant plant. 1863 01:34:41,066 --> 01:34:42,546 It's--MALE VOICE: 1864 01:34:42,589 --> 01:34:44,417 STEVE: I just don't know that that's possible. 1865 01:34:44,766 --> 01:34:46,158 I don't get it. 1866 01:34:46,202 --> 01:34:47,986 JOHN: Remember, non-combustible doesn't mean 1867 01:34:48,030 --> 01:34:49,509 you can't have green grass. 1868 01:34:49,553 --> 01:34:51,686 You just have non-combustible material 1869 01:34:51,729 --> 01:34:53,470 up against your house within five feet. 1870 01:34:53,513 --> 01:34:54,906 That's the concept behind it. 1871 01:34:59,171 --> 01:35:01,217 Well, I agree with the majority of it, 1872 01:35:01,260 --> 01:35:06,091 but I'm thinking there's gonna be 1873 01:35:06,918 --> 01:35:10,705 issues and there's gonna be enforcement issues with the-- 1874 01:35:10,748 --> 01:35:12,184 with the plants. 1875 01:35:12,228 --> 01:35:15,535 So I'm gonna say no. 1876 01:35:15,797 --> 01:35:17,494 FEMALE VOICE: Council member Schuster? 1877 01:35:18,147 --> 01:35:21,106 I have to say no as proposed. 1878 01:35:21,585 --> 01:35:22,934 FEMALE VOICE: Council member Zuccolillo? 1879 01:35:22,978 --> 01:35:24,501 MIKE: I don't know think we have the plant police, 1880 01:35:24,849 --> 01:35:27,156 going around and you know, measuring people's plants 1881 01:35:27,199 --> 01:35:29,985 off their buildings. In its current form, I'd say no. 1882 01:35:30,420 --> 01:35:33,075 JODY: Okay. It fails.[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING] 1883 01:35:33,815 --> 01:35:36,034 Thank you all for all of your input. 1884 01:35:36,426 --> 01:35:38,558 Have a good evening. We're adjourned. 1885 01:35:38,602 --> 01:35:40,735 [AUDIENCE APPLAUDING] 1886 01:35:41,170 --> 01:35:43,694 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1887 01:35:48,264 --> 01:35:50,222 LUCY: So this is what the fires reveal. 1888 01:35:51,354 --> 01:35:54,836 Just as with climate change, we know what the problems are, 1889 01:35:55,575 --> 01:35:57,621 we know what the solutions are, 1890 01:35:58,274 --> 01:36:00,972 but we're not getting it together to implement them. 1891 01:36:03,148 --> 01:36:05,237 MIKE: Fire is a natural light force. 1892 01:36:06,064 --> 01:36:08,806 But the mass fires, the fire storms that we've seen, 1893 01:36:08,850 --> 01:36:09,938 they changed this. 1894 01:36:11,330 --> 01:36:12,679 We're headed off in a direction we don't understand. 1895 01:36:12,941 --> 01:36:14,856 We're like passengers on a runaway train 1896 01:36:14,899 --> 01:36:16,031 who doesn't know where the tracks 1897 01:36:16,074 --> 01:36:17,597 actually lay ahead. 1898 01:36:20,513 --> 01:36:23,821 LUCY: In the Christian imagination, hell is fire pits. 1899 01:36:23,865 --> 01:36:25,431 It's being burned alive. 1900 01:36:26,128 --> 01:36:29,174 These are the very worst things we could imagine. 1901 01:36:29,871 --> 01:36:31,873 When we came up with the idea of hell, 1902 01:36:31,916 --> 01:36:33,962 it was fire that we imagined 1903 01:36:34,701 --> 01:36:36,791 and that's what we're creating for ourselves. 1904 01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:40,795 And of course, it's the vulnerable 1905 01:36:40,838 --> 01:36:42,100 who suffer the most. 1906 01:36:44,537 --> 01:36:46,017 LUCY: So tell us about this structure here? 1907 01:36:46,061 --> 01:36:47,889 What is this?This is my home 1908 01:36:48,498 --> 01:36:51,196 I started building this four days after the fire-- 1909 01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:52,545 five days after the fire. 1910 01:36:54,765 --> 01:36:58,464 LUCY: Even in Malibu, people are homeless and hurting. 1911 01:36:59,814 --> 01:37:02,991 I don't even remember much of the last few months. 1912 01:37:03,034 --> 01:37:04,775 LUCY: Do you-- How's it been?And it's-- 1913 01:37:04,819 --> 01:37:06,472 A blur, really. 1914 01:37:07,212 --> 01:37:10,607 I've got what I was able to save packed in the truck. 1915 01:37:11,390 --> 01:37:13,088 It's a broken shelter. [CHUCKLES] 1916 01:37:14,263 --> 01:37:15,699 It gets cold. 1917 01:37:16,656 --> 01:37:19,572 There are drafts in certain places. 1918 01:37:21,226 --> 01:37:25,013 So I'm just not set up and I don't wanna be a burden. 1919 01:37:30,714 --> 01:37:34,239 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1920 01:37:38,287 --> 01:37:41,029 MAEVE: Firefighting is definitely not for the faint of the heart. 1921 01:37:42,508 --> 01:37:44,859 We do see a lot of fatalities, we see a lot of injuries. 1922 01:37:44,902 --> 01:37:47,557 We see a lot of terrible things in this job. 1923 01:37:48,036 --> 01:37:49,733 It's pretty hard to just come home, 1924 01:37:49,776 --> 01:37:52,214 pretend none of that happened. 1925 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,394 My husband's a firefighter like me 1926 01:37:58,437 --> 01:38:01,876 and we separated, because of the stress of our jobs. 1927 01:38:02,398 --> 01:38:04,487 I was surviving on two to three hours 1928 01:38:04,530 --> 01:38:07,142 of sleep a nights for a year and a half. 1929 01:38:08,186 --> 01:38:10,710 I felt like there was a pretty significant period 1930 01:38:10,754 --> 01:38:14,062 of time where I lost my mind just trying to hold it together. 1931 01:38:17,021 --> 01:38:18,153 JOHN: We're away from our families 1932 01:38:18,196 --> 01:38:19,371 all summer long. 1933 01:38:20,982 --> 01:38:23,071 There's never a break, there's no end in sight. 1934 01:38:24,637 --> 01:38:27,597 Work 50, 60, 70 days, get a day off 1935 01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:28,685 and go right back on. 1936 01:38:28,728 --> 01:38:30,600 The problem isn't going right back on, 1937 01:38:30,643 --> 01:38:32,950 it's, "I might go another 70 days." 1938 01:38:36,084 --> 01:38:39,087 FRANK: They retired me out post-traumatic stress disorder. 1939 01:38:39,391 --> 01:38:41,002 Three little kids are just sitting there... 1940 01:38:42,438 --> 01:38:43,656 and... 1941 01:38:45,006 --> 01:38:48,661 yeah, after that it was the next shift 1942 01:38:48,705 --> 01:38:50,489 I was coming in for, I couldn't wake up. 1943 01:38:51,055 --> 01:38:52,448 I guess my body was just telling me, 1944 01:38:52,491 --> 01:38:53,971 just, "I don't wanna go to work." 1945 01:38:54,276 --> 01:38:57,235 So I came, I said, "I don't feel right, 1946 01:38:57,279 --> 01:38:58,584 I just don't feel right." 1947 01:39:01,674 --> 01:39:05,765 MALE VOICE: We don't talk so much about the PTSD and the suicides 1948 01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:09,030 that causes the firefighters to take their lives. 1949 01:39:10,031 --> 01:39:11,946 FIREFIGHTER: And I told my wife the other day, I go, 1950 01:39:11,989 --> 01:39:13,991 "I feel like my brain's not firing right." 1951 01:39:14,035 --> 01:39:17,168 Our brains are just done. We're just mentally exhausted. 1952 01:39:19,388 --> 01:39:20,519 FIREFIGHTER 2: The problem is the ones 1953 01:39:20,563 --> 01:39:21,956 that are really hurting the most 1954 01:39:22,260 --> 01:39:24,871 often don't say so and then they do something, 1955 01:39:25,089 --> 01:39:26,221 it's too late. 1956 01:39:27,613 --> 01:39:29,964 "Hey man, are you thinking about doing yourself?" 1957 01:39:30,965 --> 01:39:32,096 "Yeah, I am." 1958 01:39:33,445 --> 01:39:34,881 I've probably had that six times. "Yeah, I am." 1959 01:39:35,317 --> 01:39:37,623 "How about if I help you? Can I help you?" 1960 01:39:38,581 --> 01:39:41,192 Not one of those six did themselves. 1961 01:39:42,367 --> 01:39:43,673 JASON: It's a long emotional road 1962 01:39:44,065 --> 01:39:46,850 and every day I talk to people 1963 01:39:46,893 --> 01:39:51,942 who are very much struggling emotionally with each day. 1964 01:39:54,423 --> 01:39:57,426 JIM: One of my goals was never ever to seriously injure 1965 01:39:57,469 --> 01:39:58,993 or kill a firefighter in the line of duty 1966 01:39:59,036 --> 01:40:01,038 and unfortunately, I failed on that note. 1967 01:40:02,126 --> 01:40:05,390 Fire killed five United States Forest Service firefighters 1968 01:40:05,434 --> 01:40:07,349 at a home that they were defending. 1969 01:40:08,959 --> 01:40:11,222 Yeah, that's just one of several. 1970 01:40:12,745 --> 01:40:15,966 FIREFIGHTER 2: One of our firefighters Cory Iverson was caught. 1971 01:40:16,445 --> 01:40:19,361 His strike team leader Mark Barb ran through 1972 01:40:19,404 --> 01:40:21,406 the burning flames and through the brush. 1973 01:40:21,450 --> 01:40:25,497 Cory was already dead, but Mark fell on him 1974 01:40:25,802 --> 01:40:27,586 and covered him with his body, 1975 01:40:28,065 --> 01:40:30,111 so that Cory didn't burn anymore. 1976 01:40:30,676 --> 01:40:33,331 That's a reason I wanna protect our firefighters. 1977 01:40:33,375 --> 01:40:36,421 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1978 01:40:39,424 --> 01:40:41,035 [DOGS BARKING] 1979 01:40:44,821 --> 01:40:48,694 BRAD: Well, she'd been praying every night that she would die. 1980 01:40:49,173 --> 01:40:51,219 That "Come take me", she was ready. 1981 01:40:51,567 --> 01:40:54,135 And she passed, took her last breath. 1982 01:40:54,483 --> 01:40:55,571 So she was home. 1983 01:40:56,963 --> 01:40:59,096 We have a little tradition, I'm putting fruit trees 1984 01:40:59,140 --> 01:41:00,445 all the way around the property. 1985 01:41:01,316 --> 01:41:06,625 And a handful of ashes from my mom and my wife 1986 01:41:06,669 --> 01:41:09,585 will go in each tree all the way around. 1987 01:41:09,976 --> 01:41:11,848 My mother would join the rest of the angels, 1988 01:41:11,891 --> 01:41:14,024 protecting the house most definitely. 1989 01:41:14,416 --> 01:41:16,287 They're our loved ones, they all will stay. 1990 01:41:22,032 --> 01:41:23,903 Better put this thing right on outback. 1991 01:41:32,434 --> 01:41:34,958 [MAN SINGING IN NATIVE AMERICAN LANGUAGE] 1992 01:41:51,627 --> 01:41:55,631 DON: On November 8th, when I saw the fire itself, 1993 01:41:56,197 --> 01:41:58,112 I stopped on the side of the road and watched it. 1994 01:41:59,504 --> 01:42:02,028 It reminded me of the first fire stories. 1995 01:42:04,683 --> 01:42:08,165 The first fire story is a story of fire 1996 01:42:08,209 --> 01:42:10,036 that sweeps across the landscape. 1997 01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:12,169 It's the one that destroys everything, 1998 01:42:13,257 --> 01:42:15,955 then you have nothing left, you're devastated. 1999 01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:19,220 And I thought our society is experiencing 2000 01:42:19,263 --> 01:42:22,440 the first fire stories that indigenous peoples know about 2001 01:42:23,354 --> 01:42:25,443 and then learn to use fire. 2002 01:42:25,704 --> 01:42:30,492 And so we as a society need to learn that lesson ourselves 2003 01:42:30,796 --> 01:42:32,711 to come back to the second fire stories 2004 01:42:32,755 --> 01:42:34,365 which tell us how to use fire. 2005 01:42:34,670 --> 01:42:38,413 This is old land, been in use for thousands 2006 01:42:38,456 --> 01:42:39,849 and thousands of years. 2007 01:42:40,589 --> 01:42:44,723 What we're doing out here is restoring life. 2008 01:42:45,159 --> 01:42:47,117 RON: We call this "cultural burning". 2009 01:42:47,161 --> 01:42:52,470 Cultural means to cultivate, so when we're using fire, 2010 01:42:52,514 --> 01:42:57,083 it's a tool that we're using to restore the land. 2011 01:42:57,997 --> 01:43:00,739 DON: One of the reasons why indigenous people burn 2012 01:43:00,783 --> 01:43:02,741 historically, was to protect their village areas. 2013 01:43:03,220 --> 01:43:05,527 Burn around 'em, because almost all the structures 2014 01:43:05,570 --> 01:43:06,615 were made out of the wood. 2015 01:43:08,530 --> 01:43:09,792 So by burning the area was to protect around those things. 2016 01:43:12,142 --> 01:43:14,188 RON: After we burn, that nutrient 2017 01:43:14,884 --> 01:43:16,625 will bring new life back. 2018 01:43:21,369 --> 01:43:24,241 A lot of people had this concept that this was a wilderness 2019 01:43:24,285 --> 01:43:26,678 that was purely untouched. 2020 01:43:26,722 --> 01:43:28,985 But in fact it was highly manipulated. 2021 01:43:30,378 --> 01:43:32,771 LUCY: Was I wrong to want the fires put out? 2022 01:43:33,250 --> 01:43:37,123 I realized I was one in a long line of Europeans 2023 01:43:37,167 --> 01:43:41,084 who'd landed in California and misunderstood the place. 2024 01:43:41,519 --> 01:43:44,218 ZEKE: The real roots of our forestry and fire crises 2025 01:43:44,261 --> 01:43:46,611 are in idea of white supremacy. 2026 01:43:46,872 --> 01:43:49,614 You know, our European ancestors when they encountered 2027 01:43:49,658 --> 01:43:51,486 the native people they couldn't imagine 2028 01:43:51,529 --> 01:43:53,749 that these people they were meeting might have 2029 01:43:53,792 --> 01:43:56,621 advanced scientific knowledge of how to manage the landscape 2030 01:43:56,665 --> 01:43:59,407 that was based on thousands of years of experimentation 2031 01:43:59,450 --> 01:44:00,495 and observation. 2032 01:44:02,018 --> 01:44:03,933 The native people who lived here rely directly on the land 2033 01:44:03,976 --> 01:44:05,804 for everything about their lives. 2034 01:44:06,414 --> 01:44:09,330 There were management objectives that they achieved using fire. 2035 01:44:09,808 --> 01:44:14,291 Like more acorns or let's move the branches up higher on trees, 2036 01:44:14,335 --> 01:44:16,162 so we can see people sneaking up to kill us. 2037 01:44:18,295 --> 01:44:20,079 TRINA: I told my grandpa what I was doing 2038 01:44:20,123 --> 01:44:21,559 a few years ago and he said, 2039 01:44:21,603 --> 01:44:23,822 "Oh, you're trying to do what I was trying to do." 2040 01:44:24,083 --> 01:44:28,218 Forest thinning and work with other tribes and other communities 2041 01:44:28,566 --> 01:44:30,264 and it's generation after generation 2042 01:44:30,525 --> 01:44:32,657 of tribal knowledge being available, 2043 01:44:32,701 --> 01:44:35,747 but the larger society not willing to look at that 2044 01:44:35,791 --> 01:44:37,053 as a viable answer. 2045 01:44:38,489 --> 01:44:40,274 The fire can be our friend or it can be our enemy. 2046 01:44:41,362 --> 01:44:44,147 And we need people, fire has always been our friend. 2047 01:44:44,190 --> 01:44:47,324 [MAN SINGING IN NATIVE AMERICAN LANGUAGE] 2048 01:44:47,368 --> 01:44:50,806 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2049 01:44:54,113 --> 01:44:55,680 BRIANNA: We got stripped of our natural right 2050 01:44:56,115 --> 01:44:57,334 to be able to burn 2051 01:44:58,901 --> 01:45:00,337 and now it's getting harder to teach the next generation 2052 01:45:00,381 --> 01:45:02,296 what a good burn is, not to be afraid of fire. 2053 01:45:05,473 --> 01:45:09,085 Burning this feels so natural and it's like I had this fire 2054 01:45:09,128 --> 01:45:11,000 inside of me also that was dormant 2055 01:45:11,043 --> 01:45:15,265 for such a long time, got laid down, got put out 2056 01:45:15,309 --> 01:45:17,006 and now I'm that I'm putting fire back on, 2057 01:45:17,049 --> 01:45:19,356 it's also like reigniting the fire 2058 01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:20,792 that I had inside myself. 2059 01:45:22,577 --> 01:45:25,057 DANNY: It's really the only way that you could really manage 2060 01:45:25,101 --> 01:45:26,581 big areas. 2061 01:45:26,624 --> 01:45:31,063 There's only so much thinning and piling, fuel breaks, 2062 01:45:31,107 --> 01:45:33,588 and stuff we could do when you know fire 2063 01:45:33,631 --> 01:45:38,680 is the most cost effective and easiest way of doing it 2064 01:45:38,723 --> 01:45:40,159 with the least amount of resources 2065 01:45:44,686 --> 01:45:47,166 TRINA: It's actually harder to get a fire started 2066 01:45:47,210 --> 01:45:48,864 than people might think. 2067 01:45:50,909 --> 01:45:52,171 Add a little wind. 2068 01:45:53,782 --> 01:45:55,261 Today's a really good day for burn conditions, 2069 01:45:55,566 --> 01:45:58,526 because of higher humidity, lower temperatures, 2070 01:45:58,569 --> 01:46:01,833 and this area isn't heavily fueled. 2071 01:46:04,183 --> 01:46:06,447 This is what we're talking about, a low intensity fire. 2072 01:46:06,490 --> 01:46:08,231 Very, very short flame lengths. 2073 01:46:09,537 --> 01:46:12,235 So if you can imagine back a long time ago, 2074 01:46:12,278 --> 01:46:13,628 this would just be a family thing 2075 01:46:13,671 --> 01:46:15,194 and it was kind of in our family, 2076 01:46:15,238 --> 01:46:17,588 where we would just spend a good part of the day 2077 01:46:17,632 --> 01:46:19,895 just doing this, standing around talking, visiting. 2078 01:46:20,983 --> 01:46:23,202 And it just brings itself out. 2079 01:46:23,768 --> 01:46:28,599 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2080 01:46:33,778 --> 01:46:35,998 STEPHEN: Temperate Europe is a real anomaly in the world, 2081 01:46:36,825 --> 01:46:39,741 because it doesn't have a pattern of wetting to dry, 2082 01:46:40,568 --> 01:46:43,614 and those parts of the world that have those conditions 2083 01:46:43,658 --> 01:46:45,877 don't have natural basis for fire, 2084 01:46:45,921 --> 01:46:47,575 and they're pretty small parts of the world. 2085 01:46:48,010 --> 01:46:50,316 So Europeans didn't like fire, 2086 01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,102 they didn't see any natural purpose to it 2087 01:46:53,145 --> 01:46:54,712 and they just saw it as bad behavior, 2088 01:46:54,756 --> 01:46:58,063 as a kind of lawlessness that needed to be controlled. 2089 01:46:59,935 --> 01:47:02,851 LUCY: And of course, the impact of European arrogance 2090 01:47:02,894 --> 01:47:04,940 has not been constrained to the USA. 2091 01:47:06,681 --> 01:47:08,596 FIREFIGHTER 1: Cultural burning is not just about 2092 01:47:08,639 --> 01:47:11,337 aboriginal people, putting, dropping matches 2093 01:47:11,381 --> 01:47:12,991 in the country and burn a country. 2094 01:47:13,905 --> 01:47:15,254 FIREFIGHTER 2: It's very technical 2095 01:47:15,298 --> 01:47:17,822 and there's a lot of science and layers, and layers, 2096 01:47:17,866 --> 01:47:19,476 and layers of knowledge. 2097 01:47:19,781 --> 01:47:22,044 FIREFIGHTER 1: It's bad enough that our people have lost 2098 01:47:22,087 --> 01:47:25,700 their own identity through being dispossessed from their land, 2099 01:47:25,961 --> 01:47:30,661 but because of mismanagement of country, even now countries 2100 01:47:30,705 --> 01:47:34,535 losing it's own identity through these invasive grasses 2101 01:47:35,187 --> 01:47:38,930 and shrubs taking over areas where they're not meant to be. 2102 01:47:40,715 --> 01:47:42,717 ZEKE: And we kind of need to flip the script 2103 01:47:43,282 --> 01:47:46,068 and start telling a different story about fire 2104 01:47:46,111 --> 01:47:48,200 in the landscape that doesn't cast it as a villain, 2105 01:47:48,244 --> 01:47:50,072 that casts it actually as the tool. 2106 01:47:53,554 --> 01:47:55,773 STEPHEN: For almost all of our existences as species 2107 01:47:56,252 --> 01:47:58,036 we managed to live with fire well. 2108 01:47:59,473 --> 01:48:00,909 We've lost that. 2109 01:48:02,127 --> 01:48:04,260 We have a sense that we have to dominate it, 2110 01:48:04,303 --> 01:48:07,655 control it, some kind of Promethean image. 2111 01:48:10,005 --> 01:48:13,574 But fire has been on this planet for 420 million years. 2112 01:48:13,965 --> 01:48:16,011 As long as plants have been on land, 2113 01:48:16,054 --> 01:48:18,840 they have burned. We are not going to stop that, 2114 01:48:18,883 --> 01:48:20,363 we can't afford to stop it. 2115 01:48:23,148 --> 01:48:26,021 So what fire does is it takes in oxygen 2116 01:48:26,500 --> 01:48:29,067 and then gives off water vapor and carbon dioxide. 2117 01:48:30,416 --> 01:48:33,028 When it occurs within us, we call it "respiration". 2118 01:48:33,071 --> 01:48:34,116 Occurs in cells. 2119 01:48:34,377 --> 01:48:36,422 When it occurs in the open landscape, 2120 01:48:36,684 --> 01:48:39,904 we call it "fire". But it's the same chemistry. 2121 01:48:41,819 --> 01:48:43,821 We are the fire creature... 2122 01:48:45,562 --> 01:48:49,218 and we use that to make the world more habitable. 2123 01:48:50,132 --> 01:48:53,439 This is what we do, you know other animals knock over trees 2124 01:48:53,483 --> 01:48:55,398 and dig holes in the ground. We do fire. 2125 01:48:57,269 --> 01:48:59,576 And the hearth fire, is the very essence 2126 01:48:59,620 --> 01:49:01,926 of domesticity and family. 2127 01:49:03,624 --> 01:49:05,234 I mean if we lit a fire here, 2128 01:49:05,277 --> 01:49:06,931 we would all be standing around it. 2129 01:49:07,323 --> 01:49:08,803 [SCREAMS]I am in the middle. 2130 01:49:08,846 --> 01:49:10,239 No, I am.I am! 2131 01:49:11,109 --> 01:49:12,676 No, I am.I am! 2132 01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:14,504 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 2133 01:49:14,548 --> 01:49:17,115 Oh, make out your own with a hose. 2134 01:49:17,159 --> 01:49:19,204 Fire is a good thing, to stay warm? 2135 01:49:19,248 --> 01:49:20,466 Yeah.BRAD: Yeah. 2136 01:49:24,427 --> 01:49:26,560 Getting ready to plant the vegetables. 2137 01:49:28,562 --> 01:49:31,129 Over here we just started cleaning the garden out 2138 01:49:31,739 --> 01:49:34,742 and then now the orange trees all getting in bloom 2139 01:49:34,785 --> 01:49:38,397 and the lemon trees and it'll smell so good. 2140 01:49:38,746 --> 01:49:41,139 On the anniversary of my wife's passing, 2141 01:49:41,749 --> 01:49:44,578 Roni came up to talk to me and we sat and talked 2142 01:49:44,621 --> 01:49:46,014 and we've been together since. 2143 01:49:47,363 --> 01:49:50,148 And it's been great, and peaceful, and wonderful. 2144 01:49:50,627 --> 01:49:52,324 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 2145 01:49:52,368 --> 01:49:54,979 Almost ready.Oh, praise you, baby. 2146 01:49:55,023 --> 01:49:56,546 It's only at 98 degrees, 2147 01:49:56,590 --> 01:49:58,896 we got about another 30 degrees to go. 2148 01:49:58,940 --> 01:49:59,897 Oh. 2149 01:50:01,812 --> 01:50:02,987 He's a wonderful man. 2150 01:50:03,031 --> 01:50:04,859 They broke the mold when they made him, 2151 01:50:04,902 --> 01:50:06,556 'cause they don't make 'em like that anymore. 2152 01:50:08,602 --> 01:50:10,429 Roni lived right over there. 2153 01:50:11,387 --> 01:50:13,824 See that burnt down piece of tin over there, 2154 01:50:14,085 --> 01:50:15,434 that was Roni's house. 2155 01:50:17,828 --> 01:50:20,701 So we lived that far apart and I didn't know she liked me. 2156 01:50:21,919 --> 01:50:24,095 It took the fire I guess to openin' my eyes 2157 01:50:24,139 --> 01:50:27,011 to all this is just replaceable. 2158 01:50:27,533 --> 01:50:29,448 Love is all you got. Family is all you got. 2159 01:50:29,797 --> 01:50:31,407 So that's what's important. 2160 01:50:33,975 --> 01:50:35,237 We can always start over. 2161 01:50:35,498 --> 01:50:36,760 Always.Yeah. 2162 01:50:37,892 --> 01:50:40,590 Don't need to all the time.[CHUCKLES] 2163 01:50:44,725 --> 01:50:45,943 LUCY: This is very special. 2164 01:50:45,987 --> 01:50:47,292 Yeah.Yes. 2165 01:50:47,336 --> 01:50:51,688 Really good, really good. Life is really good. 2166 01:50:51,732 --> 01:50:52,950 [LAUGHS] 2167 01:51:01,785 --> 01:51:04,788 THOR: There's change and how we handle it. 2168 01:51:05,615 --> 01:51:10,185 How we internalize and feel about the change. 2169 01:51:10,707 --> 01:51:13,710 It informs who we are, who our personality, 2170 01:51:13,754 --> 01:51:16,800 who our character is. What do you see behind is? 2171 01:51:18,541 --> 01:51:19,803 Hello? 2172 01:51:20,630 --> 01:51:21,718 Now gone. 2173 01:51:23,807 --> 01:51:26,505 Wow, what a gift. 2174 01:51:28,159 --> 01:51:30,814 PICO: Maybe it's good to remind ourselves of how we many things 2175 01:51:30,858 --> 01:51:32,076 we can't control. 2176 01:51:32,773 --> 01:51:34,122 I was spending most of my time 2177 01:51:34,165 --> 01:51:36,124 reading these burning house poems, 2178 01:51:36,167 --> 01:51:37,734 that are very, very common in Japan, 2179 01:51:37,778 --> 01:51:40,345 because fire and impermanence sit at the heart 2180 01:51:40,389 --> 01:51:41,651 of that culture. 2181 01:51:41,956 --> 01:51:45,046 There's a poem, "My husband down, 2182 01:51:45,611 --> 01:51:48,745 now I can see more clearly the rising moon." 2183 01:51:49,615 --> 01:51:52,053 That clarifies your perspective, and it makes you remember 2184 01:51:52,357 --> 01:51:54,446 what you care about, and it takes the clutter 2185 01:51:54,490 --> 01:51:56,100 out of your head and out of your life. 2186 01:52:01,845 --> 01:52:04,761 DON: The wind patterns and the migrations of the birds, 2187 01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:07,372 the order of flowering of certain plants, 2188 01:52:07,982 --> 01:52:10,071 those kind of things are all the landscape 2189 01:52:10,114 --> 01:52:13,422 communicating with you, but in modern society 2190 01:52:13,465 --> 01:52:16,817 people tend to just uproot and move places 2191 01:52:17,382 --> 01:52:19,907 And they rely on their technology. 2192 01:52:24,825 --> 01:52:29,786 TRINA: Once people realize that the place that they're in 2193 01:52:29,830 --> 01:52:32,310 has its own voice if they take the time to start 2194 01:52:32,354 --> 01:52:35,313 to learn that language of that place, 2195 01:52:35,357 --> 01:52:38,099 then that place will respond to them in a different way. 2196 01:52:38,142 --> 01:52:40,797 And they will understand that place in a different way. 2197 01:52:41,058 --> 01:52:44,496 And that's when it becomes really, really beautiful. 2198 01:52:48,544 --> 01:52:51,155 DANNY: It doesn't take a college genius to figure out 2199 01:52:51,199 --> 01:52:53,070 how to treat Mother Nature right. 2200 01:52:53,505 --> 01:52:55,290 Mother Nature was pissed. 2201 01:52:56,508 --> 01:52:58,467 Little more respect.Yup. 2202 01:52:58,510 --> 01:53:00,034 Treat the land with respect. 2203 01:53:00,077 --> 01:53:02,863 Get rid of all that plastic crap you been playing with. 2204 01:53:02,906 --> 01:53:05,213 The shopping bag almost destroyed this place. 2205 01:53:05,256 --> 01:53:06,649 I mean they're everywhere. 2206 01:53:06,692 --> 01:53:08,738 BRAD: Shopping bags.Diapers 2207 01:53:08,782 --> 01:53:09,870 BRAD: Bottled water. 2208 01:53:11,828 --> 01:53:13,134 LUCY: You and three others thinking that 2209 01:53:15,223 --> 01:53:16,659 you guys have something--Well, something-- We-- Some of us are on the same page. 2210 01:53:17,442 --> 01:53:19,793 LUCY: None of us wants hell on earth. 2211 01:53:20,054 --> 01:53:22,578 None of us wants our home to burn down, 2212 01:53:22,883 --> 01:53:25,015 but what does it take to agree with people 2213 01:53:25,059 --> 01:53:26,451 we're not supposed to? 2214 01:53:26,756 --> 01:53:28,671 We are environmentalists, okay. 2215 01:53:28,714 --> 01:53:29,803 We love our environment, okay. 2216 01:53:31,239 --> 01:53:32,718 HOWARD: The Native Americans back in ancient times, 2217 01:53:32,762 --> 01:53:35,025 they'd leave in the winter and when they left, 2218 01:53:35,069 --> 01:53:36,635 they'd set the place on fire. 2219 01:53:36,679 --> 01:53:38,942 PETE: And that's where the old ranchers learned it from. 2220 01:53:38,986 --> 01:53:40,074 Something's wrong.Yeah. 2221 01:53:41,553 --> 01:53:42,946 That's why the alternate ways-- Maybe we need to go back 2222 01:53:42,990 --> 01:53:46,384 a hundred years and say, "They did it right, okay 2223 01:53:46,428 --> 01:53:47,995 and we've mismanaged it." 2224 01:53:53,696 --> 01:53:56,438 LUCY: There's been an update from Sierra Pacific Industries. 2225 01:53:56,917 --> 01:53:58,875 Remember those young tree plantations 2226 01:53:58,919 --> 01:54:01,486 we visited and I got upset where the fire had burned 2227 01:54:01,530 --> 01:54:04,098 through so quickly on its way to Paradise. 2228 01:54:04,533 --> 01:54:07,057 They've decided not to replant them. 2229 01:54:07,841 --> 01:54:11,148 That all burned in 2008 and here you know, 2230 01:54:11,192 --> 01:54:13,194 ten years later it burned again. 2231 01:54:13,237 --> 01:54:16,284 So obviously there's some work that could be done there 2232 01:54:16,327 --> 01:54:19,548 to help, you know, keep that from happening again. 2233 01:54:21,028 --> 01:54:23,857 We learned a lot after I saw what happened over there. 2234 01:54:24,858 --> 01:54:26,468 DON: We thought this would be a good anchor point 2235 01:54:26,511 --> 01:54:28,818 for bringing the fire back into this landscape 2236 01:54:29,123 --> 01:54:31,865 and so after they send it, then we came in 2237 01:54:31,908 --> 01:54:36,478 and put the fire on the ground to manage the fuels 2238 01:54:36,521 --> 01:54:38,610 and hopefully, within the next few years, 2239 01:54:38,654 --> 01:54:40,569 we'll be able to come back and we do another burn 2240 01:54:40,612 --> 01:54:42,571 to maintain the fuel densities 2241 01:54:42,614 --> 01:54:45,139 and the diversity of species that we have out here. 2242 01:54:51,101 --> 01:54:54,235 STEPHEN: Fire even has a kind of moral presence 2243 01:54:54,278 --> 01:54:56,890 indirectly, because it forces people to choose. 2244 01:54:58,979 --> 01:55:02,721 As the old signs in theBible of the Trying Fire. 2245 01:55:03,722 --> 01:55:06,943 The fire will try each of us and determine 2246 01:55:06,987 --> 01:55:08,292 of what sort we are. 2247 01:55:08,684 --> 01:55:14,298 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2248 01:55:23,742 --> 01:55:29,531 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2249 01:55:35,232 --> 01:55:38,018 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 2250 01:55:42,457 --> 01:55:44,763 [ALL LAUGH] 2251 01:55:44,807 --> 01:55:46,852 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 2252 01:55:46,896 --> 01:55:50,726 My mother wanted me to wear this, so. 2253 01:55:51,553 --> 01:55:54,991 I know, yeah, let's go. The wedding party is here. 2254 01:56:00,301 --> 01:56:01,519 Oh shit. 2255 01:56:02,433 --> 01:56:08,178 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2256 01:56:14,706 --> 01:56:17,579 VICAR: Bradley, do you take this woman to be your wife, 2257 01:56:17,622 --> 01:56:20,190 to love and to honor her, to comfort her, 2258 01:56:20,234 --> 01:56:22,976 to learn and grow with her for as long as you both shall live? 2259 01:56:23,019 --> 01:56:24,281 Of course. 2260 01:56:25,500 --> 01:56:27,981 Do you take this man to be your husband, 2261 01:56:28,459 --> 01:56:30,592 to love and to honor him?RONI: Absolutely. 2262 01:56:31,332 --> 01:56:34,030 [GUESTS CHEERING] 2263 01:56:34,509 --> 01:56:36,163 By the power vested in me, 2264 01:56:37,033 --> 01:56:38,904 you guys are now husband and wife. 2265 01:56:43,822 --> 01:56:49,698 [MUSIC PLAYING] 2266 01:57:27,083 --> 01:57:30,043 ["“WE HAVE IT ALL"” PLAYING] 2267 01:57:30,956 --> 01:57:35,439 ♪ There was fire around us So I should have known why ♪ 2268 01:57:35,483 --> 01:57:40,140 ♪ The touch of his hands Were as cold as his eyes ♪ 2269 01:57:40,183 --> 01:57:44,361 ♪ So don't you tell me We weren't hypnotized ♪ 2270 01:57:44,405 --> 01:57:47,799 ♪ Whoa oho 2271 01:57:49,062 --> 01:57:53,414 ♪ The print was so small, I didn't understand ♪ 2272 01:57:53,457 --> 01:57:57,983 ♪ He cut our thumbs and placed A feather in our hands ♪ 2273 01:57:58,027 --> 01:58:03,554 ♪ Told us we would see all Our dreams and plans unfold ♪ 2274 01:58:04,033 --> 01:58:05,687 ♪ Oho 2275 01:58:06,166 --> 01:58:10,909 ♪ Our hearts we have sold 2276 01:58:10,953 --> 01:58:15,131 ♪ For diamonds and gold 2277 01:58:15,175 --> 01:58:18,700 ♪ But hey, baby, take a look 2278 01:58:18,961 --> 01:58:23,313 ♪ We have it all 2279 01:58:24,836 --> 01:58:28,623 ♪ All my life I've been heading for hell ♪ 2280 01:58:28,666 --> 01:58:33,149 ♪ But never had I thought I'd drag you down as well ♪ 2281 01:58:33,193 --> 01:58:37,371 ♪ I just couldn't resist What he was trying to sell ♪ 2282 01:58:37,414 --> 01:58:41,114 ♪ Oho oho 2283 01:58:41,723 --> 01:58:46,162 ♪ Our hearts we have sold 2284 01:58:46,423 --> 01:58:50,645 ♪ For diamonds and gold 2285 01:58:50,688 --> 01:58:54,127 ♪ But hey, baby, take a look 2286 01:58:54,344 --> 01:58:59,393 ♪ We have it all 2287 01:59:00,394 --> 01:59:03,353 ♪ Hear me 2288 01:59:03,745 --> 01:59:08,097 ♪ Can you hear me 2289 01:59:08,141 --> 01:59:12,319 ♪ I am calling out to you 2290 01:59:12,580 --> 01:59:17,498 ♪ For the last time 2291 01:59:18,238 --> 01:59:21,197 ♪ Hear me 2292 01:59:21,502 --> 01:59:25,723 ♪ Please forgive me 2293 01:59:25,984 --> 01:59:30,337 ♪ I am calling out to you 2294 01:59:30,380 --> 01:59:35,733 ♪ For the last time 174025

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