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[BIRDS CHIRPING]
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BRAD: I was just cleaning up
over here getting ready
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to make more trestles
and stuff for the gutters.
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This is our vegetable garden.
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LUCY: Did anything survive?
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Uh, yeah, vegetables are all
still pretty good.
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We've still got some tomatoes,
and lots of good fresh lemons,
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and the pomegranates,
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and there's still
some squash growing.
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This is the back deck.LUCY: Wow, paradise.
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This is my part of the paradise.
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LUCY: Oh wow, gorgeous.
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This is nice, nice,
comfortable area.
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[LAUGHS]
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LUCY: I don't know what to say.I get that reaction
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from a lot of people.
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Come inside, I'll show you.
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Would you like
to meet some people, Mom?
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I don't care.Okay.
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Your name again?LUCY: Lucy.
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Lucy. Mom, this is Lucy.
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LUCY: How you doing?
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Oh, I'm doing just fine.
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LUCY: How was the fire for you?
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How was the fire to me?LUCY: Hmm.
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Well, I'll clue you in.
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Being blind,
I thought they had all left me.
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And then Brad came in
and told me, he said,
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"I'm sorry, Mom,
we're fighting a fire storm."
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And I told him,
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"I want you always to remember
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the angels are always with you."
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Do you know they had to keep
the fire, flap those wings,
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keep that fire away.
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Okay. I'll be outside
for a little bit, Mama.
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I love you.I Love you.
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We're still here,
we didn't burn up.
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It was like it created
a big firestorm over here
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and just for about
four or five minutes
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it sucked the fire away from us.
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Angels. [LAUGHS] It was angels.
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Yup.
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Would have both died
if that hadn't happened.
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So someone was watching for us.
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LUCY: Do-- Were you praying,
were you asking-- Were you--
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who was it?I believe it was my wife.
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Yeah, she died a few years ago
and I built this for her.
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So...
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wasn't gonna lose it.
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LUCY: So sorry, I'm so happy,
I am so sorry.
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Yeah, oh no, I'm happy.
I'm happy.
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Over here, my mom's here
and safe and things are good.
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Life could be a lot worse.
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Most the people I know
lost everything.
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["“WE HAVE IT ALL"” PLAYING]
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♪ There was fire around us
So I should have known why ♪
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♪ The touch of his hands
Were as cold as his eyes ♪
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♪ So don't you tell me
We weren't hypnotized ♪
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♪ Whoa, oho
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♪ The print was so small
I didn't understand ♪
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♪ He cut our thumbs and placed
A feather in our hands ♪
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♪ Told us we would see
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♪ All our dreams
And plans unfold ♪
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♪ Ohho
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♪ Our hearts we have sold
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♪ For diamonds and gold
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♪ But hey, baby
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♪ Take a look we have it all
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LUCY: The world is waking up
to the hellish realization
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that all over this planet
wildfires are burning us alive.
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[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
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♪ But haven't you heard
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♪ Hearts turn to dirt
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♪ Along with the rest
Of your body ♪
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♪ It's all claimed
By the earth ♪
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MALE VOICE: ♪ It will fade
And it will wither ♪
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♪ But gold, it will never
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♪ And hey, baby
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♪ Don't you know
Diamonds are forever ♪
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LUCY: My obsession
with wildfire began
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when I first moved
to California.
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I was confused,
"Why is the hillside on fire?"
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I couldn't believe that people
just kept on driving.
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I am from London and the last
big fire we had there
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was the Great Fire of London
in 1666.
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I thought fire was
a medieval problem,
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not a modern one.[HELICOPTER BLADES WHIRRING]
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[PANTING][INDISTINCT CHATTER]
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LUCY: Then the biggest fire
in California history
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came along in 2017
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and I thought, "All right,
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somebody's got to make a film
about this one."
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But I'd only just gotten started
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when there was another
even bigger one.
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What was going on?
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To hell with an individual fire.
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I vowed not to stop
until I got all the way
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to the bottom of why these fires
keep on happening
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and that's why we came
to be embedded
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with firefighters
on what turned out to be
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the deadliest day for fires
ever in California.
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MAEVE: I mean, fucking hell.
It's hot.[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
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MAEVE: Oh my God, oh my God,
oh my God.
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Oh my God, oh my God,
oh my God, oh my God.
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It's fucking heat,
it's the whole ridge,
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it's the whole ridge.
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LUCY: In one day,
the whole story
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of why we're here now played out
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and it has all the pieces.
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Love, loss, liberty, capitalism,
class, and crime.
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But it isn't the story
I expected to be telling.
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I had expected heroism
and I found even more.
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But what I hadn't expected
was hope.
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Because we can do something
about this problem.
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Fire is a natural phenomenon.
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These wildfires,
however, are not.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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MATT: The wind was stronger
than normal.
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It was just stronger.
Woke me up that morning.
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I saw the fire...
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time kind of stood still there
for a minute.
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I took a quick picture of it.
It's 6:48 in the morning.
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And then I gave my report
on conditions.
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I knew it was gonna be
a bad one.
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We have our eyes
on the vegetation fire.
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It's gonna be very difficult
to access
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underneath
the transmission line.
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But it's heading
in the direction
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of towards Concow lake.
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I go down the road
and I see a giant blowtorch
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going across the canyon.
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I went on the community
Facebook page
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and just put down there,
"Evacuate, run for your life!"
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OFFICER:
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LARRY: I turned around
and looked at the window,
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there was these
dark gray clouds.
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My wife was in the front room
on the floor,
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'cause her mother had spilled
a cup of coffee.
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And she's trying to clean it up.
So we had to get out now.
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I said, "You got three minutes
or we're gonna be dead."
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And I couldn't see the hood
of my car,
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the smoke was so thick,
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I just shot in the middle
of the flames.
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The neighbors were about
ten minutes behind me
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and a tree had already fallen
across on that road.
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They couldn't get out.
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Dozens of people have died
in this fire.
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Twelve of 'em were up here.
Two on this road.
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Yeah.
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MALE VOICE:
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MALE VOICE 2:
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MALE VOICE:
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MALE VOICE 2:
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ALLYN: There were 67 patients
in the hospital that day.
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Evacuation warnings
didn't happen.
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TAMARA: I went
to my patient's room
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and I said, "We need to go now."
And she started looking around.
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And I said, "No,
just grab your baby."
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RACHELLE: But I still had
a catheter from surgery.
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Two lines with bags.
I can't run. I can't even walk.
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[RADIO BEEPING]OFFICER:
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RACHELLE: There were
no ambulances available.
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There was a little Nissan
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and they lifted me up
and put me in the seat.
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They put the IV bag
and stuff on the floor.
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And then handed me the baby
in the front seat of the car.
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[RADIO BEEPING]OFFICER 2:
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ALLYN: As the last patients
were getting in,
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fire's breaking out
on the campus.
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MALE VOICE:
I am at Feather River Hospital.
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There's fire down
on both sides here.
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It's all blocked down here.
There's no way to go down here.
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MARY: When I got to school,
one mother came in
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and she really scared me.
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She looked at me and she goes,
"Get these kids out of here.
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It's bad." And so I started
pulling the kids out to the bus.
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And you go to work and you think
you're gonna teach about bats.
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That's how quickly
you're in a...[FINGER SNAPPING]
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...life or death situation.
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FRANK: You got 30 seconds
to get out of your house.
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What are you gonna grab?Take my two guns
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that I carry all the time
and put 'em in the basket
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of my four-wheeler
and that was it.
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I didn't even have
my ammunition, just the guns.
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ROBERT: Tried the car
facing the right direction
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loaded with belongings,
but the heat came so quickly,
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so intensely,
I had to leave my car behind.
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I decided to run
into the nearest swimming pool.
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Create a buffer for myself.
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I did a quick look behind me,
it's gone.
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OPERATOR:
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FEMALE VOICE:
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OPERATOR:
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FEMALE VOICE:
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OPERATOR:
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We were sleeping and then
I heard the neighbor and all.
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And everything's black
likeWar of the Worlds.
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It's like we really have
to leave now,
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but my mom wouldn't come.
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She didn't think it was
an official evacuation order
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and these other people
and she's telling,
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we didn't get orders either.
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I just kinda panicked
like I can't convince her.
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I drove out
and I was devastated,
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I had everything I needed
except my mom.
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LAUREN: Communications
were down.
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Internet was down,
power was off.
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No one knew how fast
and how furious
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that fire was coming at us.
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SEAN: It was a billion embers.
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And every one of those embers
started a fire.
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OPERATOR:FEMALE VOICE:
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OPERATOR:
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FEMALE VOICE 2:OPERATOR:
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MALE VOICE:OPERATOR:
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MALE VOICE:OPERATOR:
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OPERATOR:FEMALE VOICE 3:
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OPERATOR:
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So I climb out of the pool
and there's a car.
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Might be keys in the car.
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There's people in the car,
"What are you doing?"
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FEMALE VOICE: I can't see
in front of me.MALE VOICE: 1: I know.
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They went, "We can't see."
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"Well, I can see,
get the fuck over."
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I was really jacked up by then
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and then old guy walked out
of one of the condos.
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I'm going, "Has nobody done
a door to door here?"
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And it's about 40, 50 homes
over here and I'm going,
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"Uh, okay", no one left behind
type of thing.
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[SIREN BLARING]
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JOE: So I drove by my street
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and saw that my house
was destroyed.
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Just went back to work.
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BRAD: It was coming so fast
and so strong,
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I got our little garden hose
in hand.
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I don't know
how I could describe it,
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it's like fighting an elephant
with a piece of spaghetti.
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Felt like we had sunburn.
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You know, you felt
like your face was gonna peel,
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it was so hot.
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MARY: We turn the corner
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and we are immediately
already trapped in traffic
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and they're already
fires all over the place.
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The entire event
was one giant parking lot.
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[TIRES SCREECHING]
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MALE VOICE:: Go!FEMALE VOICE: Go!
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MALE VOICE:
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FEMALE VOICE:OPERATOR:
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FEMALE VOICE:OPERATOR:
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MALE VOICE 2:
Keep your window up, guys.
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BRAD: There was people
trying to push each other
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off the road to get out of here.
It was pandemonium.
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MALE VOICE 2: Come on, people,
let's fuck out of here.[WOMAN 2 GRUNTS]
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MALE VOICE 2: Time to effin go.
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It's a full intersection
and all directions
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were completely blocked
with traffic.
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The fire was gonna impact
all those people.
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OFFICER:
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FEMALE VOICE: Oh fuck!
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JOSH: Nobody could go anywhere.
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Fire was burning
inside the cars.
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People were just in fear,
in shock
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and didn't know
what was going on.
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So there's a huge feeling
of helplessness,
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'cause the fire
is just kicking our ass.
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REBECCA: I don't wanna die here.
I don't want to die.
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LUCY: It's hard to believe that
the Camp Fire in Paradise
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was only one of four major fires
in California that day.
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In southern California,
the Woolsey Fire was taking off
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and headed for Malibu.
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REBECCA: Oh my God.
Please God, please. Oh my God.
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LUCY: It was the opposite end
of the state.
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The opposite end
of the political spectrum
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and the opposite end
of the economic spectrum.
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REBECCA: Please God, please.
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LUCY: The median home price
in Paradise...[REBECCA GASPS]
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...was around 200,000 dollars.
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In Malibu,
it was over two million dollars.
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Paradise tends to vote
Republican.
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Malibu always votes Democrat.
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But all our skin burns
just the same.
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When you're in hell...REBECCA: Oh my God,
please God...
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...you're in hell....oh my God.
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Oh my God.
Please get me out of here.
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Please God.
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[HELICOPTER BLADES WHIRRING]
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Air Attack Division
November Command.
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PILOT: Okay, copy that. I'll try
to get the helicopter around.
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Okay, I'll see you
at some point.
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It's dangerous
I mean we're out...[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
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...ahead of the fire
right now, right.
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We've had firefighter fatalities
in this area,
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because of the wind
shifting on you.
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You're constantly on alert
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trying to assess
what's going on.
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It's a big Rubik's Cube
and you're just trying to solve
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the puzzle and figure out
how to connect the dots
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and put the fire out.
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So there's our air tanker.
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He's working on, dropping
retarding on my line.
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[INDISTINCT CHATTER][AIRPLANE ENGINE WHIRRING]
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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[INDISTINCT CHATTER][SIREN BLARES]
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MARSHALL: My dad was a colonel
in the marines.
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And now he's captain
of the fire department.
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He's also the mayor of Malibu.
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My dad and I had set up
this fire system
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where we have a big tank
in the backyard.
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And so that morning, my dad
put his hand on my shoulder.
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He's all in his fear gear
and he said, "Don't leave."
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And then he had to go.
You know, he has duties,
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so I was kinda like,
"Wait, stay here.
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[CHUCKLES] We need you."
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Today's the very last day
of the temporary workforce
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for the Forest Service.
Everyone's getting
laid off today.
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We don't have our workforce,
we don't have our hotshot crews.
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Usually, I have superintendents
that are driving around with me
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and we're going
into these canyons,
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and getting up high,
and looking down,
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and coming up with a plan.
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And yet again,
two years in a row,
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we're caught with our pants down
with no workforce
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and an end of the season fire.
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[HELICOPTER BLADES WHIRRING]
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MAEVE: California just mobilized
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a ton of our firefighters
up north
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and then all of a sudden
everyone had to shift gears
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and fight this fire
that was down here.
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Either I send helicopters there
to save that one
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or I work 'em through here
and that saves
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the other 50 homes
on the way up.
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You're left making
shitty decisions, you know,
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that you don't wanna make.
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MALE VOICE: No fire engines.
Fire everywhere.
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Holy shit.
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FEMALE VOICE:
There's no fire trucks up here.
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Where's all the fire trucks?
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MALE VOICE 2:
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[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
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MALE VOICE 3: The wind's
picked up and there are embers.
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Fires are starting left
and right.
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CANDACE: They stopped me
and they said,
"We'll escort you.
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And I said, "Why?"
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Try and be nice.And they said,
"Fire on both sides.
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It's really dangerous."
I would not evacuate.
346
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The idea was I would be inside
and he would be outside.
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00:17:37,665 --> 00:17:40,233
As you can see
a 50,000 gallon pool
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and I finally got
the pump working.
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But there was so much material
in the pool, the siphon clogged.
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THOR: We got a minute or two
over on this side
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and shoveled dirt on it
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and then the next one
would start.
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There's no adrenaline going.
You're past adrenaline.
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You're in survival win.
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JOHN: It was like
a fire tornado.
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The thing was like
400 feet tall.
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Spinning. I never seen
anything like it.
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FEMALE VOICE:
Let's get outta here.
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This whole row,
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it's sort of like
what you would see
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in the Midwest after a tornado.
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CRAIG: It pulled us off
with our feet towards it
363
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and it was circulating debris
200 or 300 feet in the air
364
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and I'm talking like pieces
of corrugated iron,
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whole pieces of tree
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like some kind of monster
or a demon.
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I just felt my legs going.
You know, like I'm out, I'm out.
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JEFFERSON: Your heart sinks
to a spot.
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Thirty years
of mortgage payments
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and five years
to build the place.
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[SOBS] I'm sorry.
372
00:19:02,053 --> 00:19:05,448
Watching the second floor fall
onto the first floor.
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That seemed to be a heartbreak
for me.
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00:19:07,537 --> 00:19:10,627
There was like kind of a thing
around here that
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00:19:10,671 --> 00:19:12,020
the Point doesn't burn
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and... [CHUCKLES]
...we were fucking wrong.
377
00:19:17,112 --> 00:19:19,506
The big second wave
came through and I was like
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00:19:20,071 --> 00:19:21,247
this could be the end of it.
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00:19:23,118 --> 00:19:24,859
MALE VOICE: Dad, get back.
Let's go.
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Get behind the fucking house.
Get behind the house!
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MARSHALL:
I am a professional cyclist,
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so I was prepared to run
for 15 hours straight.
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But my legs were just shredded.
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My friend looked at me
and he's like,
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"We're surrounded by fire.
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00:19:40,788 --> 00:19:42,355
All your neighbor's houses
are on fire.
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00:19:42,398 --> 00:19:44,357
We need to leave."
He's like, "You're gonna die."
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00:19:46,228 --> 00:19:49,144
I heard my dad's words
in the back of my mind,
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"Don't leave." He's like,
390
00:19:50,667 --> 00:19:52,321
"If we lose the house,
we're fucked."
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00:19:54,410 --> 00:19:55,803
It was emotional,
I didn't really know
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what to do,
I was like honor my dad
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00:19:57,761 --> 00:19:59,763
or listen to my friend
who's telling me I'm gonna die.
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00:20:00,634 --> 00:20:05,943
[CHUCKLES][MUSIC PLAYING]
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SEAN: I started seeing people
coming down the Skyway
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carrying children, dogs,
suitcases.
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00:20:21,785 --> 00:20:24,658
There were people who had burns
and I was just yelling at 'em.
398
00:20:24,701 --> 00:20:27,051
"Just keep going down the hill.
Go into the Walgreen,
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00:20:27,095 --> 00:20:28,401
so I have firefighters
waiting for you."
400
00:20:30,054 --> 00:20:32,405
I had told the guys we're gonna
use it as temporary refuge area
401
00:20:32,666 --> 00:20:34,320
and whatever you do,
402
00:20:34,363 --> 00:20:36,147
"Do not let that building
burn down."
403
00:20:36,191 --> 00:20:38,672
[SIREN WAILING][INDISTINCT CHATTER]
404
00:20:42,806 --> 00:20:44,547
SEAN: And to be honest,
I wasn't convinced
405
00:20:44,591 --> 00:20:45,896
it was going to work.
406
00:20:45,940 --> 00:20:48,334
It was just that
it was the only option we had.
407
00:20:48,377 --> 00:20:50,727
Once I pull these guys
off protecting this building,
408
00:20:51,075 --> 00:20:53,121
we're gonna go and start trying
to save all your homes.
409
00:20:53,643 --> 00:20:55,558
I think we ended up with like
a hundred people in there
410
00:20:55,950 --> 00:20:58,082
and the fire came,
and it came really hard.
411
00:21:00,084 --> 00:21:01,608
[SIREN BLARING]
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OFFICER:
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SEAN: We had massive explosions
going on.
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00:21:08,615 --> 00:21:10,834
[EXPLOSION]
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00:21:11,182 --> 00:21:13,533
It shook the ground
you were standing on.
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00:21:16,013 --> 00:21:20,757
Everyone has ammunition
and it sounded like a war zone.
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00:21:26,067 --> 00:21:28,069
Grown men holding
their children's hands
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began crying.
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You go them and say,
"I know what you feel.
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00:21:32,465 --> 00:21:34,554
But you gotta cut it out
and you have to cut it out
421
00:21:34,597 --> 00:21:36,120
right now,
because it's contagious."
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00:21:43,171 --> 00:21:45,565
MALE VOICE:MALE VOICE 2:
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OPERATOR: Okay,
and he still can't get out?
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MALE VOICE 2:
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00:21:55,531 --> 00:21:56,706
OPERATOR: Are you trapped?MALE VOICE:
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00:21:59,666 --> 00:22:00,971
OPERATOR: Okay, ma'am,
427
00:22:01,015 --> 00:22:02,321
you need to get out
of the house.
428
00:22:02,625 --> 00:22:03,757
FEMALE VOICE:
429
00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:07,326
Please.
430
00:22:10,198 --> 00:22:11,765
Oh my God.
431
00:22:18,989 --> 00:22:21,165
JESSIE: And I've never heard
anybody scream like that before.
432
00:22:23,516 --> 00:22:26,693
Looking back, you know
why they were screaming.
433
00:22:27,084 --> 00:22:28,651
They're burning alive.
434
00:22:34,570 --> 00:22:37,617
I saw people being burned alive
in their cars, trailers,
435
00:22:37,660 --> 00:22:39,445
their motorcycles
laying on the ground.
436
00:22:39,488 --> 00:22:41,795
Like just people fleeing
for their lives.
437
00:22:44,624 --> 00:22:47,278
There was burned up bodies
in the traffic jam.
438
00:22:47,627 --> 00:22:50,717
Skeletons.
That's all that was left.
439
00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:54,547
FEMALE VOICE: Somebody, help![CAR HORN HONKING]
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RACHELLE:
The window's hot and I'm hot.
441
00:22:57,811 --> 00:23:00,030
The baby's hot. I dumped
a little water on him
442
00:23:00,074 --> 00:23:02,946
and rubbed his head.
The driver's out of the car
443
00:23:02,990 --> 00:23:04,295
and I called my dad and I said,
444
00:23:04,339 --> 00:23:06,994
"Dad, I'm in a fire
and I can't get out.
445
00:23:07,037 --> 00:23:08,604
There's people
getting out of their cars
446
00:23:08,648 --> 00:23:09,910
and they're running.
447
00:23:10,389 --> 00:23:11,564
And I can't run.
448
00:23:12,129 --> 00:23:13,522
I can't even hardly feel
my legs.
449
00:23:13,566 --> 00:23:14,697
I can't even stand up
450
00:23:14,741 --> 00:23:16,438
and I've got this baby
on my lap.
451
00:23:17,787 --> 00:23:19,180
And I don't know what to do.
452
00:23:19,223 --> 00:23:21,574
What do I do? I don't wanna die!
453
00:23:22,792 --> 00:23:25,708
[SOBBING]
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00:23:25,752 --> 00:23:29,582
When the driver got back
in the car, he said,
455
00:23:30,104 --> 00:23:32,454
"If we have to get out
of the car and go,
456
00:23:32,498 --> 00:23:33,847
what do you want me to do?"
457
00:23:36,066 --> 00:23:38,634
And I said, "I just want you
to take the baby and run.
458
00:23:38,678 --> 00:23:41,115
If you have to run,
just take him and go."
459
00:23:46,381 --> 00:23:49,906
ALLYN: My car is being burned
and I saw the side-mirror
460
00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:51,125
just starting to melt.
461
00:23:51,517 --> 00:23:55,695
That's when I thought
like it's over.
462
00:23:56,347 --> 00:23:59,916
I wrote my wife and said,
"I just want you guys to know
463
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:01,744
I did everything
I possibly could
464
00:24:01,788 --> 00:24:04,094
to get out of this
to see you again
465
00:24:04,138 --> 00:24:05,444
and that I love you."
466
00:24:06,009 --> 00:24:08,316
I said, "There's fire on
both sides of the road.
467
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,013
The house next to me is on fire.
468
00:24:10,492 --> 00:24:12,451
I'm not gonna make it.
Just pray with me.
469
00:24:13,277 --> 00:24:15,889
Heavenly Father, please help us.
470
00:24:16,542 --> 00:24:21,460
FEMALE VOICE:
471
00:24:22,243 --> 00:24:23,592
ALLYN: Some of my colleagues
behind me,
472
00:24:23,636 --> 00:24:24,941
their car stalled out,
473
00:24:24,985 --> 00:24:26,073
'cause the oxygen
was literally being
474
00:24:26,116 --> 00:24:27,683
cooked out of the air.
475
00:24:27,727 --> 00:24:29,859
They ended up trying to walk
back up the road.
476
00:24:30,512 --> 00:24:34,429
OPERATOR:
477
00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:35,648
FEMALE VOICE:
478
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,564
JOE: I overheard
some radio traffic that a dozer
479
00:24:38,607 --> 00:24:40,217
might be able to help
move some of the burning cars
480
00:24:40,261 --> 00:24:42,089
and protect the people
stuck on the road.
481
00:24:42,393 --> 00:24:44,047
The cars on left side
of the road
482
00:24:44,091 --> 00:24:45,484
were engulfed in flames
483
00:24:45,527 --> 00:24:47,834
and starting to explode
and threaten the vehicles
484
00:24:47,877 --> 00:24:50,184
next to them.
I encountered the nurses
485
00:24:50,227 --> 00:24:51,968
and law enforcement officers
on foot.
486
00:24:52,012 --> 00:24:53,970
MALE VOICE:OFFICER:
487
00:24:54,405 --> 00:24:56,756
They were incredibly panicked,
rightfully so.
488
00:24:57,452 --> 00:25:00,281
At this point, everything
surrounding us was on fire.
489
00:25:01,151 --> 00:25:02,762
Almost every vehicle
on that road
490
00:25:03,066 --> 00:25:04,894
had people taking refuge in 'em.
491
00:25:05,242 --> 00:25:07,114
A hundred cars, maybe more.
492
00:25:07,593 --> 00:25:08,637
The looks on their faces,
493
00:25:08,681 --> 00:25:10,073
they were sure
they were gonna die.
494
00:25:11,422 --> 00:25:13,424
I've never seen that look
on anybody's face.
495
00:25:14,382 --> 00:25:16,906
FEMALE VOICE: [SOBS] Oh my God.MALE VOICE:
It's all that's important.
496
00:25:18,473 --> 00:25:20,780
JOE: The heat broke
the windows of my dozer
497
00:25:20,823 --> 00:25:22,782
and I knew I was running
out of time.
498
00:25:23,217 --> 00:25:24,914
And I was now
endangering myself.
499
00:25:27,177 --> 00:25:29,266
I don't believe
I could've let myself stand back
500
00:25:29,310 --> 00:25:31,791
and watch those vehicles
and people burn up.
501
00:25:31,834 --> 00:25:36,578
I was perfectly willing
to move forward and risk myself
502
00:25:36,622 --> 00:25:37,666
for those people.
503
00:25:39,973 --> 00:25:41,191
Right around that time like
504
00:25:41,235 --> 00:25:43,629
I hear this like kind of bang.[EXPLOSION]
505
00:25:44,368 --> 00:25:45,892
[TIRES SCREECHING]
506
00:25:45,935 --> 00:25:48,503
And this bulldozer had knocked
this truck almost the size
507
00:25:48,547 --> 00:25:49,809
of mine like out of the way.
508
00:25:49,852 --> 00:25:51,114
Like you're kicking over
a shoebox.
509
00:25:52,594 --> 00:25:53,769
And I've got a path
like to turn around.
510
00:25:53,813 --> 00:25:56,511
[CAR ENGINE REVVING]
511
00:26:08,436 --> 00:26:11,831
[HELICOPTER BLADES WHIRRING]
512
00:26:13,093 --> 00:26:16,575
I've never been so happy
to see a sunny sky. [LAUGHS]
513
00:26:29,588 --> 00:26:30,937
MAEVE: I'm exhausted.
514
00:26:31,459 --> 00:26:32,808
I've been out here for...
515
00:26:33,635 --> 00:26:39,075
28, 29 hours, 30 hours,
something like that.
516
00:26:39,772 --> 00:26:42,383
If you're sleeping
behind the curb
517
00:26:43,210 --> 00:26:45,212
and meanwhile someone's house
is burning down.
518
00:26:45,255 --> 00:26:46,909
This is why you don't take naps.
519
00:26:49,346 --> 00:26:51,131
No.
520
00:26:51,174 --> 00:26:53,220
There's a lot of horses
in there.
521
00:26:53,263 --> 00:26:57,616
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]Oh, I'm so sorry, horses.
522
00:26:58,747 --> 00:27:04,535
[MUSIC PLAYING]
523
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:11,238
I remember just like peeking
through this smudgy dark windows
524
00:27:11,281 --> 00:27:12,805
out over the canyon
525
00:27:13,588 --> 00:27:14,981
and I was just wondering
I was like,
526
00:27:15,024 --> 00:27:17,026
"I think all of Malibu
burned down."
527
00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:22,728
SAM: For about three days
we stayed up all night.
528
00:27:22,771 --> 00:27:26,209
It was so anxious-ridden
and we knew the fire
529
00:27:26,253 --> 00:27:27,776
was still so active.
530
00:27:27,820 --> 00:27:30,779
We've been given the name
of the Point Dume Bombers.
531
00:27:30,823 --> 00:27:33,826
The name of the little
surf crew down here.
532
00:27:33,869 --> 00:27:36,437
We did save a lot of homes.
533
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,396
And to be completely honest
I have no fucking idea
534
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,702
how we pulled it off.
535
00:27:40,746 --> 00:27:42,269
Paramedics didn't even
assess me.
536
00:27:42,748 --> 00:27:44,663
Intensive care unit
three days.
537
00:27:45,054 --> 00:27:46,229
I also got a hernia.
538
00:27:46,273 --> 00:27:48,405
And they ended up
amputating the toe.
539
00:27:59,808 --> 00:28:02,724
MAEVE: A lot of times,
people don't evacuate.
540
00:28:03,116 --> 00:28:04,987
So we will spend two
or three days there
541
00:28:05,031 --> 00:28:06,728
prepping their property
for a fire to come.
542
00:28:06,772 --> 00:28:08,121
And then we come back today
543
00:28:08,164 --> 00:28:09,513
and they died overnight
in the fire.
544
00:28:09,818 --> 00:28:12,473
So two of those Indians made
friends with the people
545
00:28:12,516 --> 00:28:14,823
which means I can't send them
546
00:28:15,302 --> 00:28:17,870
to start mopping up,
547
00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:21,656
because it'll be too much
of a mental fatigue
548
00:28:21,874 --> 00:28:23,745
if I send them in there.
So I need to send them
549
00:28:23,789 --> 00:28:25,791
somewhere else
and then get fresh people in...
550
00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:29,620
to where the fatalities are,
so that they're not looking
551
00:28:29,664 --> 00:28:32,058
at bodies of people
that they spoke with yesterday.
552
00:28:33,842 --> 00:28:35,670
STACY: I mean, the first words
out of his mouth were,
553
00:28:35,714 --> 00:28:37,106
"Everything is gone." [CHUCKLES]
554
00:28:37,628 --> 00:28:40,849
I don't care, you know.
Everything is not gone.
555
00:28:41,415 --> 00:28:43,373
He thought that he had failed us
you know.
556
00:28:43,417 --> 00:28:45,114
As the father, as the protector.
557
00:28:45,724 --> 00:28:48,030
But I can you tell today
for sure
558
00:28:48,074 --> 00:28:50,772
with no doubt in my mind
a hundred percent
559
00:28:50,816 --> 00:28:53,775
that I have the love
of my life standing next to me
560
00:28:53,819 --> 00:28:55,908
and he is my hero today.
561
00:29:00,521 --> 00:29:01,914
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
562
00:29:02,218 --> 00:29:03,567
FEMALE VOICE: Oh my God.
563
00:29:05,918 --> 00:29:08,834
MALE VOICE: Oh.FEMALE VOICE: Can't believe it.
564
00:29:08,877 --> 00:29:10,096
[LAUGHS]
565
00:29:11,575 --> 00:29:13,186
I can't believe that!
566
00:29:15,362 --> 00:29:17,712
This house,
my grandma and grandpa,
567
00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:20,889
her mom and dad built.
And my grandpa made this sign.
568
00:29:22,064 --> 00:29:23,892
"May all who enter enjoy
its warmth
569
00:29:23,936 --> 00:29:25,198
and share our contiment."
570
00:29:25,807 --> 00:29:26,852
Contentment.Contentment.
571
00:29:26,895 --> 00:29:29,550
[LAUGHS][LAUGHS] Contentment.
572
00:29:30,333 --> 00:29:32,901
Mom's getting all choked up, aw.
573
00:29:33,597 --> 00:29:36,557
This house means a lot to her.[SNIFFLES] Everything.
574
00:29:36,949 --> 00:29:39,952
And when we had to leave
and left him there,
575
00:29:39,995 --> 00:29:43,738
I couldn't even think.
576
00:29:45,566 --> 00:29:47,394
It's everything to have
my kids here
577
00:29:47,437 --> 00:29:50,484
doing what I did
and what my dad did.
578
00:29:50,527 --> 00:29:52,965
It's not just a house,
it's a home.
579
00:29:53,008 --> 00:29:55,402
That's why we're like
not gonna let a fire take it.
580
00:29:55,445 --> 00:29:57,012
[LAUGHS][LAUGHS]
581
00:29:57,056 --> 00:30:01,277
This whole side of the canyon,
the whole thing was on fire.
582
00:30:01,538 --> 00:30:03,540
And it was just skipping
down the hill
583
00:30:04,106 --> 00:30:05,586
faster than you could run.
584
00:30:05,629 --> 00:30:06,935
RICK: The fire behavior
up in the canyons
585
00:30:06,979 --> 00:30:09,938
was you know, like peering
into Dante's Inferno
586
00:30:09,982 --> 00:30:12,201
and when I came by and I saw
the house there it was like...
587
00:30:12,462 --> 00:30:15,726
[SIGHS] Yes, this is great.
588
00:30:15,770 --> 00:30:17,119
Did a great job.
589
00:30:19,382 --> 00:30:20,731
LUCY: Dante's Inferno?
590
00:30:20,775 --> 00:30:22,342
Yes, it was terrible.
591
00:30:22,733 --> 00:30:24,257
I've seen a few fires like that,
592
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:26,389
but that was on a scale
that I hadn't seen before.
593
00:30:26,433 --> 00:30:28,696
You know, I look and say,
"Oh, what if that whole canyon
594
00:30:28,739 --> 00:30:31,394
went off. That would be
terrible, but they all went off
595
00:30:31,438 --> 00:30:32,656
at the same time.
596
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:34,267
So the amount of energy
that was released
597
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:37,183
up in those canyons
was horrific.
598
00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:39,663
It was horrific.
And if you're in the wrong place
599
00:30:39,707 --> 00:30:42,492
at the wrong time,
you can die. Certainly.
600
00:30:42,753 --> 00:30:44,843
And the fact that more people
didn't die in this
601
00:30:44,886 --> 00:30:45,974
is very lucky.
602
00:30:46,018 --> 00:30:48,150
And that's the success story
of this fire.
603
00:30:48,194 --> 00:30:52,241
So that's my mayor side talking.
The evacuation effort worked.
604
00:31:36,329 --> 00:31:37,373
Clear.
605
00:31:43,205 --> 00:31:45,468
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
606
00:31:48,776 --> 00:31:53,476
[CAR ENGINE REVVING]
607
00:32:00,527 --> 00:32:06,054
[MUSIC PLAYING]
608
00:32:10,929 --> 00:32:12,191
MALE VOICE: What do you think?
609
00:32:15,846 --> 00:32:21,461
I need just something...[MUSIC PLAYING]
610
00:32:46,921 --> 00:32:49,880
[ENGINE STARTS]
611
00:32:59,064 --> 00:33:01,240
SEAN: People were unable
to escape that fire
612
00:33:01,283 --> 00:33:02,981
and it caught 'em
where they were.
613
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,810
Some were in their homes,
and some were outside,
614
00:33:06,854 --> 00:33:08,116
and some were in their cars.
615
00:33:10,771 --> 00:33:13,208
It was difficult.
[CLEARS THROAT] Very difficult.
616
00:33:25,829 --> 00:33:28,702
SEAN: It's easy to motivate
firefighters to go fight a fire.
617
00:33:30,965 --> 00:33:35,187
It's difficult to motivate them
to sift through the remains
618
00:33:35,230 --> 00:33:38,233
of 18,000 buildings
to look for bones.
619
00:33:38,929 --> 00:33:40,279
And that's what we were doing.
620
00:33:43,238 --> 00:33:48,287
[MUSIC PLAYING]
621
00:33:50,941 --> 00:33:53,596
CHRISTINA: This yellow tape
is where they found her
622
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,771
'cause they dug.
623
00:33:56,208 --> 00:34:00,342
The couch would have been
that way, not this way.
624
00:34:02,083 --> 00:34:03,171
I don't know.
625
00:34:04,477 --> 00:34:07,349
They cross-confirmed the DNA
with my mom.
626
00:34:08,568 --> 00:34:11,875
I didn't even get to say
that I loved her.
627
00:34:13,094 --> 00:34:15,009
I blame myself about it.
628
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,883
I'm an only child
and she was my only family.
629
00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:43,646
JAMIE: I moved to LA
five years ago
630
00:34:43,690 --> 00:34:46,084
from New York as a widower.
As a fresh widower.
631
00:34:46,736 --> 00:34:50,262
So the hardest thing to lose
is like a tall stack
632
00:34:50,871 --> 00:34:53,526
of notebooks of remembrances
of my wife.
633
00:34:55,180 --> 00:34:56,355
And then my father
just passed away,
634
00:34:57,921 --> 00:34:59,053
so I had clothes that I really
looked forward to wearing
635
00:34:59,097 --> 00:35:00,228
that were his.
636
00:35:01,055 --> 00:35:02,665
So that's the stuff
that's difficult.
637
00:35:04,798 --> 00:35:08,367
Everything I could replace,
books, furniture, clothes
638
00:35:08,671 --> 00:35:10,369
really had no meaning.
639
00:35:10,412 --> 00:35:14,460
And everything that had meaning
which is mem-- notes, photos,
640
00:35:14,503 --> 00:35:16,549
keepsakes,
I could never replace.
641
00:35:17,289 --> 00:35:19,378
MALE VOICE: The smoke
that so many complained about
642
00:35:20,161 --> 00:35:22,207
was the last remnants
of my pets.
643
00:35:26,341 --> 00:35:28,082
STREDWICK: I had a lot
of pictures that went back
644
00:35:28,126 --> 00:35:29,475
few generations.
645
00:35:30,302 --> 00:35:33,087
My mom's and grandmom's deaths,
lot of years.
646
00:35:33,131 --> 00:35:34,567
And there were a lot
of the recipes.
647
00:35:35,655 --> 00:35:37,135
THOR: I'm not sure
what happened.
648
00:35:37,613 --> 00:35:39,485
But I'm finding there's
a new importance
649
00:35:40,050 --> 00:35:41,182
to the little material things.
650
00:35:42,792 --> 00:35:46,535
Objects and photographs,
they unlock memories.
651
00:35:47,580 --> 00:35:49,843
It's a memory that comes back
out of the fog.
652
00:35:51,149 --> 00:35:54,152
The keys to my memory
were my belongings.
653
00:35:55,327 --> 00:35:56,719
But everything's gone.
654
00:35:57,981 --> 00:36:03,291
I could be a fog person now.
One of the ones in the fog.
655
00:36:08,427 --> 00:36:10,559
MALE VOICE: Didn't have a lot
of personal stuff,
656
00:36:10,603 --> 00:36:13,040
but the watches I wanted,
they were my step-dad's.
657
00:36:13,693 --> 00:36:16,130
He was a navy hero.
658
00:36:16,174 --> 00:36:18,524
Had a silver star
and a purple heart.
659
00:36:20,308 --> 00:36:24,007
Feel like I'm on an acid trip
that might not end.
660
00:36:25,748 --> 00:36:28,577
How do you not end up homeless
which is almost a joke
661
00:36:28,621 --> 00:36:30,449
at this point, because I am
technically homeless.
662
00:36:33,669 --> 00:36:36,411
How do not let it drive you
down, down, down, down
663
00:36:36,455 --> 00:36:39,762
to whatever spark
or semblance of a spark
664
00:36:39,806 --> 00:36:40,894
that moves you forward
in the world
665
00:36:41,199 --> 00:36:43,940
and brings opportunities,
and friends,
666
00:36:43,984 --> 00:36:45,159
and love, and all that.
667
00:36:45,203 --> 00:36:47,292
Just goes out
and you become embittered
668
00:36:47,335 --> 00:36:50,425
and it-- and-- and that--
and it's-- it just doesn't seem
669
00:36:50,469 --> 00:36:53,472
like it's a far jump
when stuff happens to you
670
00:36:53,515 --> 00:36:55,256
and you really-- It hits hard.
671
00:36:57,650 --> 00:37:02,045
[SIZZLING][INDISTINCT CHATTER]
672
00:37:02,089 --> 00:37:07,486
[MUSIC PLAYING]
673
00:37:10,837 --> 00:37:12,752
BRAD: There's a lot of people
with no place to go.
674
00:37:12,795 --> 00:37:15,015
They're sleeping outside,
it's gonna start raining.
675
00:37:15,058 --> 00:37:16,234
It's getting cold.
676
00:37:17,626 --> 00:37:20,238
So I'm cleaning out--
this was--
677
00:37:20,281 --> 00:37:23,110
this little middle room
was my storeroom.
678
00:37:23,415 --> 00:37:25,504
My garage, everything
is getting cleaned out
679
00:37:25,547 --> 00:37:28,289
and going out in the shop,
so can move some other people in
680
00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:30,291
and give 'em a place to live
until they can rebuild.
681
00:37:30,335 --> 00:37:36,254
[MUSIC PLAYING]
682
00:37:45,524 --> 00:37:49,267
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
683
00:37:52,226 --> 00:37:55,055
THOR: It's just wonderful to get
something hot, something cooked.
684
00:37:55,621 --> 00:37:57,492
Well, these eggs are fantastic.
685
00:37:58,188 --> 00:38:01,279
And I like the ketchup,
I'm a big fan of the ketchup.
686
00:38:02,192 --> 00:38:05,413
It beats granola bars
hands down. [LAUGHS]
687
00:38:05,805 --> 00:38:08,286
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]LUCY:
688
00:38:31,396 --> 00:38:35,008
[DOGS BARKING]
689
00:38:36,966 --> 00:38:40,361
[SOBBING]
690
00:38:42,537 --> 00:38:45,366
FEMALE VOICE: I love you
so much, Brad.BRAD: I love you, too, baby.
691
00:38:45,410 --> 00:38:48,674
FEMALE VOICE: I brought you
water, and food,
and fruit for Mawmaw.
692
00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:50,589
I want my kisses.
693
00:38:55,768 --> 00:38:57,552
Love you.Love you.
694
00:38:57,596 --> 00:38:59,815
I told you can come
live with us.
695
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,514
Aww, thank you, Mawmaw.
696
00:39:12,219 --> 00:39:15,091
[BREATHES HEAVILY]
697
00:39:15,744 --> 00:39:17,485
That's my neighbor's house.
698
00:39:19,139 --> 00:39:20,880
Their garage didn't make it.
699
00:39:22,316 --> 00:39:23,709
They have their home.
700
00:39:26,842 --> 00:39:28,888
Oh my God. [SOBS]
701
00:39:29,192 --> 00:39:32,935
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
702
00:39:35,677 --> 00:39:38,245
I was hoping that
this wouldn't be burnt so bad.
703
00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:43,729
So this was my kids' bedrooms...
704
00:39:45,208 --> 00:39:48,298
and then my bedroom
where the wall collapsed.
705
00:39:48,908 --> 00:39:51,389
[SIGHS, SNIFFLES]
706
00:39:55,305 --> 00:39:58,221
[MAN COUGHING]My daughter's bed. [SOBS]
707
00:40:01,050 --> 00:40:03,401
All my kids' stuff.
708
00:40:05,664 --> 00:40:09,015
[SNIFFLES] I mean
I know it's just stuff, but...
709
00:40:11,409 --> 00:40:14,499
it was my stuff.
It was my memories.
710
00:40:15,978 --> 00:40:18,938
[SOBS]
711
00:40:19,678 --> 00:40:23,899
[CRIES]
712
00:40:32,778 --> 00:40:33,779
BRAD:
I don't need coffee, bud.
713
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:36,564
I'm on--Are those regular cookies
714
00:40:36,608 --> 00:40:38,044
or special cookies?Those are regular.
715
00:40:38,087 --> 00:40:39,785
Okay.Those are not specials.
716
00:40:40,263 --> 00:40:43,310
I have specials if you want one.Can I have some-- No, no, no.
717
00:40:43,353 --> 00:40:46,008
I mean we've had the Tubbs Fire.
We have the Carr Fire.
718
00:40:46,531 --> 00:40:48,707
You know, Lake County seems
like they can't get a break.
719
00:40:48,750 --> 00:40:50,578
And it seems like every year
now they're on fire.
720
00:40:51,144 --> 00:40:53,276
And what do we do--BRAD: Every other year Concow,
721
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,627
Yankee Hill.And what do we do different?
722
00:40:56,192 --> 00:40:58,151
Even if we believe
that it's climate change,
723
00:40:58,194 --> 00:41:00,632
we gotta do something about it.BRAD: Mm-hmm.
724
00:41:00,675 --> 00:41:02,808
So let's just say I believe it,
which I don't.
725
00:41:02,851 --> 00:41:04,940
But let's just say
I did for a brief second.
726
00:41:04,984 --> 00:41:06,986
Even if you wanna go
with that explanation,
727
00:41:07,377 --> 00:41:09,075
what do we do differently?Mm-hmm.
728
00:41:09,728 --> 00:41:13,166
LUCY: It came as a shock
that the residents most affected
729
00:41:13,209 --> 00:41:16,299
by the fires didn't connect them
with climate change.
730
00:41:18,345 --> 00:41:20,826
Fire, and it happen every year,
so it has nothing do
731
00:41:20,869 --> 00:41:24,264
with global warming.
That's just a hoax.
732
00:41:24,307 --> 00:41:28,790
It's just people making money
off it, you know.
733
00:41:28,834 --> 00:41:30,879
You can sit back, you can see
who makes money off it.
734
00:41:30,923 --> 00:41:32,272
And--LUCY: Who does?
735
00:41:33,142 --> 00:41:35,536
All the big shots are the ones
squawking about it,
736
00:41:36,145 --> 00:41:37,320
you know, it's--
737
00:41:38,713 --> 00:41:41,673
It's none of us people
down here, on the other end,
738
00:41:41,716 --> 00:41:43,065
we ain't gettin' nothing
from it,
739
00:41:43,762 --> 00:41:48,984
but yeah,
no that's just a hoax anyway.
740
00:41:49,028 --> 00:41:50,638
You said you were from what,
New York?
741
00:41:51,465 --> 00:41:53,989
LUCY: I am not from New York,
but what I think he means
742
00:41:54,033 --> 00:41:55,556
is that
I'm not from around there.
743
00:41:55,904 --> 00:41:57,427
And I am one of those people
744
00:41:57,471 --> 00:41:59,647
who goes with the science
on climate change.
745
00:42:02,171 --> 00:42:04,130
CHAR: Climate change is shifting
the environment.
746
00:42:04,173 --> 00:42:07,786
We have deep drought, fast fire,
and hard rain,
747
00:42:08,177 --> 00:42:09,831
and it's only
going to accelerate.
748
00:42:10,702 --> 00:42:12,921
The western part
of the United States
749
00:42:12,965 --> 00:42:15,315
is going through
this massive conversion
750
00:42:15,358 --> 00:42:19,058
in terms of climate-driven
alterations of its environment.
751
00:42:19,580 --> 00:42:22,496
The research is showing
that what we're doing
752
00:42:22,540 --> 00:42:24,672
is converting forest
to grassland.
753
00:42:24,716 --> 00:42:27,545
Grassland that over time
will become more desert.
754
00:42:27,849 --> 00:42:30,243
And one way of thinking about it
is the Sonoran,
755
00:42:30,286 --> 00:42:34,247
Chihuahuan deserts in Mexico
are moving across a border.
756
00:42:34,290 --> 00:42:36,075
That it's normal
that it's emerging
757
00:42:36,118 --> 00:42:37,729
actually is far more dangerous
758
00:42:37,772 --> 00:42:39,252
than what we've seen
in the past.
759
00:42:40,819 --> 00:42:42,298
The numbers themselves don't lie
760
00:42:42,342 --> 00:42:43,691
if you look
at the trends of 'em.
761
00:42:43,735 --> 00:42:45,563
And the trends
are really overwhelming.
762
00:42:46,041 --> 00:42:48,827
Historically, the winds
were always there,
763
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:50,611
but the fuels
were not dried out.
764
00:42:51,917 --> 00:42:53,571
Something is happening more
and more
765
00:42:53,614 --> 00:42:55,094
is the rains have not arrived.
766
00:42:55,529 --> 00:42:58,576
At a time of year,
when normally the fuels
767
00:42:58,619 --> 00:43:00,360
would've been too wet
to get going.
768
00:43:03,102 --> 00:43:06,758
Had nighttime temperatures go up
almost two degrees Fahrenheit.
769
00:43:06,801 --> 00:43:08,760
And you make the most
of your progress
770
00:43:08,803 --> 00:43:10,544
containing a fire at night.
771
00:43:11,023 --> 00:43:13,591
And when you don't get that
recovery period at night,
772
00:43:13,895 --> 00:43:16,115
that's a real recipe
for catastrophe.
773
00:43:17,072 --> 00:43:19,248
STEPHEN: We're creating
a kind of fire age.
774
00:43:20,119 --> 00:43:22,077
The fire equivalent
of an ice age.
775
00:43:23,426 --> 00:43:26,473
For me, it fits into
a master narrative
776
00:43:26,516 --> 00:43:29,128
that I have of ourselves
as fire creatures.
777
00:43:30,782 --> 00:43:33,393
It had always been our problem
as a fire creature.
778
00:43:33,436 --> 00:43:37,179
Our quest for fire, if you will,
to find more stuff to burn.
779
00:43:38,093 --> 00:43:41,575
What we've done is find
a whole new world
780
00:43:41,967 --> 00:43:45,057
of buried fossilized biomass.
781
00:43:45,405 --> 00:43:47,625
And we're taking it out
of the geologic mass,
782
00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:50,976
burning it, and releasing it
into the geologic future.
783
00:43:51,716 --> 00:43:53,979
That has been enormously
powerful for us,
784
00:43:54,501 --> 00:43:57,939
but that broke our relationship
with the living landscape.
785
00:43:57,983 --> 00:44:00,246
'Cause this stuff,
it can't be absorbed
786
00:44:00,507 --> 00:44:03,379
and so we are destroying
our habitat
787
00:44:03,423 --> 00:44:05,120
with this kind of fire.
788
00:44:07,253 --> 00:44:09,516
LUCY: I had made an assumption
that climate change
789
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:12,650
was the thing that was driving
these hellishly bad fires.
790
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,393
We've had these
record-breakingly hottest years
791
00:44:17,437 --> 00:44:19,831
and these record-breakingly
biggest fires.
792
00:44:20,614 --> 00:44:22,268
So it just correlated.
793
00:44:24,009 --> 00:44:26,359
But it turns out
there's more to it.
794
00:44:27,795 --> 00:44:30,015
Climate change in a lot of ways
is a distraction
795
00:44:30,058 --> 00:44:33,148
from the issue of fire,
because Paradise was gonna burn
796
00:44:33,192 --> 00:44:34,672
whether there was climate change
or not.
797
00:44:35,237 --> 00:44:39,198
STEPHEN: Even if climate change
miraculously went back
798
00:44:39,241 --> 00:44:40,721
to the 1960s level,
799
00:44:41,156 --> 00:44:43,289
we would still have
a fire crisis.
800
00:44:44,769 --> 00:44:48,076
Climate change is undoubtedly
aggravating fire problems.
801
00:44:48,468 --> 00:44:50,122
It's a major factor,
802
00:44:50,165 --> 00:44:53,429
it is a performance enhancer,
but it is not the only thing.
803
00:44:54,474 --> 00:44:56,824
I'm sorry, I-- I'm sorry
to say this in a way,
804
00:44:56,868 --> 00:44:59,784
because you get blamed
and climate changer denier
805
00:44:59,827 --> 00:45:02,569
or you're soft denier,
that's not my intention.
806
00:45:02,612 --> 00:45:05,137
But if you say climate change
is the only thing that matters,
807
00:45:05,180 --> 00:45:07,879
then the only thing to fix it
is fixing climate change.
808
00:45:07,922 --> 00:45:09,445
That's not gonna happen
for a long time.
809
00:45:09,489 --> 00:45:10,620
I say that with sadness.
810
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,754
I've got grandkids,
but we don't just have to build
811
00:45:13,798 --> 00:45:16,017
concrete bunkers
and wait it out.
812
00:45:16,714 --> 00:45:20,369
We can work with this
and if we're lucky and good,
813
00:45:20,413 --> 00:45:23,590
then we'll leave enough
for our grandkids
814
00:45:23,938 --> 00:45:25,810
to be able to build
a different world out of.
815
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:28,551
LUCY: So this is the good news.
816
00:45:28,595 --> 00:45:31,337
Climate change
and fire are separable.
817
00:45:31,380 --> 00:45:33,034
This movie doesn't have to be
about something
818
00:45:33,078 --> 00:45:35,558
that's going to get inevitably
worse and worse.
819
00:45:36,429 --> 00:45:38,736
We can do something
to turn this around.
820
00:45:40,694 --> 00:45:45,351
[MUSIC PLAYING]
821
00:45:57,058 --> 00:45:58,799
LUCY: Now I hadn't been
the first European
822
00:45:58,843 --> 00:45:59,931
to land in California.
823
00:46:01,367 --> 00:46:02,760
That would be
Juan Rodriguez Cabrillo.
824
00:46:02,977 --> 00:46:05,719
And it happened on
October 8th, 1542,
825
00:46:05,763 --> 00:46:08,896
When his expedition sailed up
towards what's now Los Angeles.
826
00:46:09,723 --> 00:46:12,552
And their first impression
was smoke.
827
00:46:12,595 --> 00:46:14,293
There was fire everywhere.
828
00:46:14,336 --> 00:46:16,338
And so they called
what's now Los Angeles,
829
00:46:16,382 --> 00:46:19,602
the "Bahia de los Fumos",
the "Bay of Smokes".
830
00:46:21,213 --> 00:46:22,562
History doesn't tell us
whether that was
831
00:46:22,605 --> 00:46:25,130
a natural wildfire
or a fire deliberately set
832
00:46:25,173 --> 00:46:27,567
by Native Americans,
whose practice it was
833
00:46:27,610 --> 00:46:29,264
to intentionally set fires.
834
00:46:29,917 --> 00:46:32,180
But we do know
that the Europeans left
835
00:46:32,224 --> 00:46:34,835
and they didn't come back
for 150 years.
836
00:46:34,879 --> 00:46:38,839
And when they did, they banned
those native burning practices.
837
00:46:38,883 --> 00:46:41,450
And anyway, barely any of them
wanted to live there
838
00:46:41,842 --> 00:46:45,454
until all that changed
one cold January morning
839
00:46:45,498 --> 00:46:47,108
in 1848
840
00:46:47,543 --> 00:46:51,025
when James Marshall discovered
gold in Sutters Mill
841
00:46:51,373 --> 00:46:53,375
which is about a 100 miles
from Paradise.
842
00:46:54,072 --> 00:46:56,204
And with that
the old American dream
843
00:46:56,248 --> 00:46:58,903
of Puritan men and women
content to accumulate
844
00:46:59,251 --> 00:47:00,992
a modest fortune was replaced
845
00:47:01,035 --> 00:47:03,559
by the golden dream
of instant wealth.
846
00:47:04,299 --> 00:47:07,563
One in a twinkling by audacity
and good luck.
847
00:47:08,956 --> 00:47:12,003
[CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING]LUCY: By 1849,
thousands were pouring in
848
00:47:12,046 --> 00:47:14,483
from around the world in search
of their golden dream.
849
00:47:14,875 --> 00:47:16,224
But it wouldn't end with gold.
850
00:47:16,268 --> 00:47:18,313
Hollywood would follow,
then aerospace,
851
00:47:18,923 --> 00:47:23,144
NASA, Silicon Valley, wine,
surfing, punk rock,
852
00:47:23,449 --> 00:47:26,147
the internet,
and the dot-com boom.
853
00:47:26,191 --> 00:47:28,671
California was hot, hot, hot.
854
00:47:28,715 --> 00:47:31,500
And if an occasional fire
did burn down some things,
855
00:47:31,761 --> 00:47:34,068
well, so what?
Put that thing out.
856
00:47:34,503 --> 00:47:37,376
Hire some firefighters
and buy some more AOL stock.
857
00:47:37,419 --> 00:47:39,117
Yes, we'll be right there,
thank you.
858
00:47:41,554 --> 00:47:43,425
LUCY: And then I learned about
another boom.
859
00:47:43,773 --> 00:47:46,124
Sort of boring,
sort of inscrutable.
860
00:47:46,167 --> 00:47:48,169
Sort of probably why
I hadn't thought of it before.
861
00:47:49,692 --> 00:47:51,738
The timber boom. Bear with me.
862
00:47:52,521 --> 00:47:54,610
ZEKE: In the early part
of the 20th century,
863
00:47:54,654 --> 00:47:56,743
big companies from Minnesota
and Michigan,
864
00:47:57,004 --> 00:47:59,964
that had made fortunes logging
all the Great North Woods.
865
00:48:00,007 --> 00:48:01,443
They had run out of trees to cut
866
00:48:01,922 --> 00:48:04,229
and so they built land empires
in California.
867
00:48:05,143 --> 00:48:07,449
After the timber barons
had acquired
868
00:48:07,493 --> 00:48:08,798
all the best timber land,
869
00:48:08,842 --> 00:48:09,887
there was suddenly
a great interest
870
00:48:10,452 --> 00:48:12,585
in protecting these investments
871
00:48:12,628 --> 00:48:15,544
and these corporate earnings
basically
872
00:48:15,980 --> 00:48:17,982
by getting the Forest Service
to put out all the fires.
873
00:48:20,767 --> 00:48:23,901
STEPHEN: In 1910,
three and a quarter
million acres burned.
874
00:48:24,162 --> 00:48:25,815
Seventy-eight firefighters
killed.
875
00:48:26,251 --> 00:48:28,731
So they were determined
that it would never happen again
876
00:48:28,775 --> 00:48:29,994
on their watch.
877
00:48:30,995 --> 00:48:32,822
MALCOLM: And so starting
in 1910,
878
00:48:32,866 --> 00:48:34,346
the Forest Services made it
879
00:48:34,389 --> 00:48:37,088
its primary mission
to be able to put out wildfire.
880
00:48:37,653 --> 00:48:40,395
They developed
the 10:00 a.m. policy
881
00:48:40,656 --> 00:48:42,832
that meant that as soon
as you had an ignition,
882
00:48:43,094 --> 00:48:45,357
the objective was to try
to put the fire out
883
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,054
before 10:00 a.m.
of the following day.
884
00:48:47,881 --> 00:48:50,971
And that is what we call,
"fire suppression."
885
00:48:52,016 --> 00:48:55,149
STEPHEN: And then the great
housing boom after World War II,
886
00:48:55,497 --> 00:48:57,935
suddenly there's a huge demand
for timber.
887
00:48:57,978 --> 00:48:59,937
You're creating
all kinds of slash.
888
00:49:00,198 --> 00:49:01,590
You're starting to have
fire problems
889
00:49:02,026 --> 00:49:03,897
and so a whole lot more
of fire protection
890
00:49:03,941 --> 00:49:07,857
was necessary.[SIRENS BLARING]
891
00:49:07,901 --> 00:49:09,424
ZEKE: So straight
to the 20th century,
892
00:49:09,642 --> 00:49:11,774
we've been trying to put out
as many fires as we could.
893
00:49:14,777 --> 00:49:17,215
We've got a narrative
that has been built for us
894
00:49:17,476 --> 00:49:21,088
by the media that casts
the firefighters as heroes
895
00:49:21,132 --> 00:49:23,395
and the suppression
as this kind of
896
00:49:23,438 --> 00:49:25,484
noble combat operation.
897
00:49:28,008 --> 00:49:30,750
And fires always cast
as the villain.
898
00:49:31,098 --> 00:49:34,014
SMOKEY BEAR: Hello,
I am Smokey Bear.
899
00:49:34,058 --> 00:49:36,669
Bambi's family lives here
in this forest, too.
900
00:49:36,930 --> 00:49:38,062
It's their home.
901
00:49:39,585 --> 00:49:41,674
But sometimes, people come here
and they get careless.
902
00:49:42,066 --> 00:49:44,546
PETE: We've had
all this Bambi-fambi stuff
903
00:49:44,590 --> 00:49:46,592
being put out to children,
904
00:49:46,635 --> 00:49:49,203
you know that,
"Don't encroach on the forest.
905
00:49:49,247 --> 00:49:51,553
Don't do anything. Fire is bad."
906
00:49:51,597 --> 00:49:55,470
Remember, only you can prevent
forest fires.
907
00:49:55,905 --> 00:49:57,168
HALSEY: So they've created
908
00:49:57,211 --> 00:49:59,648
this huge fire
industrial complex
909
00:49:59,909 --> 00:50:03,565
to address the whole problem,
because that's what we do.
910
00:50:04,262 --> 00:50:07,047
The solution to fire has been
to attack, attack, attack
911
00:50:07,091 --> 00:50:09,006
with these militaristic
strategies.
912
00:50:10,616 --> 00:50:14,054
And it makes us feel good
and everyone's a hero.
913
00:50:14,359 --> 00:50:15,882
But it's not working.
914
00:50:17,710 --> 00:50:19,016
FEMALE VOICE: Look, Ashley,
at all the smoke.
915
00:50:19,059 --> 00:50:20,104
MALE VOICE:
Look at the fire, Ashley.
916
00:50:21,583 --> 00:50:21,627
FEMALE VOICE:
See the dark smoke.ASHLEY: Yeah.
917
00:50:23,368 --> 00:50:24,543
LUCY: But we didn't seem to be
winning this war on fire.
918
00:50:24,586 --> 00:50:25,500
In fact, the battles
kept coming
919
00:50:26,849 --> 00:50:28,416
and right into town. [INDISTINCT CHATTER]
920
00:50:28,460 --> 00:50:31,724
LUCY: This is Oakland in 1991
when 25 people died.
921
00:50:32,203 --> 00:50:34,074
My God, I've never seen
anything like that?
922
00:50:35,597 --> 00:50:38,731
LUCY: By 2020, the entire
western United States
923
00:50:39,036 --> 00:50:40,863
was on fire at once.
924
00:50:41,168 --> 00:50:43,823
The sky was red from Seattle
to San Diego
925
00:50:43,866 --> 00:50:46,304
and it seemed like
the end times had come.
926
00:50:46,347 --> 00:50:47,870
MALE VOICE: Looks like doomsday.
927
00:50:47,914 --> 00:50:51,048
I mean you could tell something
is going horribly wrong.
928
00:50:52,179 --> 00:50:54,094
ZEKE: Rather than look at this
as a war on fire,
929
00:50:54,138 --> 00:50:55,617
we should call it
a war on nature,
930
00:50:55,922 --> 00:50:57,880
because that's what it is.
931
00:50:58,794 --> 00:50:59,969
STEPHEN: If we're at war
with fire,
932
00:51:00,013 --> 00:51:01,058
three things are gonna happen.
933
00:51:01,580 --> 00:51:03,147
We're gonna spend
a lot of money,
934
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:04,670
we're gonna take a lot
of casualties
935
00:51:04,713 --> 00:51:05,932
and we're gonna lose.
936
00:51:07,542 --> 00:51:10,328
MALCOLM: When we think about
these large fire events,
937
00:51:10,371 --> 00:51:12,286
often say, "Oh my God,
it's an act of God.
938
00:51:12,330 --> 00:51:14,201
There's nothing we really
could have done about something
939
00:51:14,245 --> 00:51:17,204
with that kind of ferocity."
That's just not true.
940
00:51:17,465 --> 00:51:20,773
There are a hundred years
of decisions that people made
941
00:51:20,816 --> 00:51:23,341
to put out each one
of the small little fires.
942
00:51:23,863 --> 00:51:26,083
REPORTER:
Fires are quickly located
before they have a chance
943
00:51:26,126 --> 00:51:27,736
to spread over large areas.
944
00:51:28,346 --> 00:51:31,349
TRINA: If we haven't burned
in a fire-adapted landscape
945
00:51:31,392 --> 00:51:34,613
for years, you know
when fire comes along,
946
00:51:34,656 --> 00:51:36,658
it's going to blow up,
it's going to be voracious.
947
00:51:39,008 --> 00:51:40,706
I don't see this
as a natural disaster.
948
00:51:40,749 --> 00:51:42,273
I see this as human error.
949
00:51:47,104 --> 00:51:49,671
LUCY: Comparing photographs
makes it very clear.
950
00:51:50,455 --> 00:51:51,978
You can see the changes.
951
00:51:53,066 --> 00:51:55,547
You can see
what fire suppression has done.
952
00:51:56,156 --> 00:51:58,898
Forests just didn't use to be
this thick.
953
00:52:00,465 --> 00:52:03,772
PETE: In the past, it was more
of a savannah situation.
954
00:52:04,208 --> 00:52:06,862
Bigger trees,
farther spaced apart.
955
00:52:07,428 --> 00:52:09,865
There's more trees up there
than there's ever been.
956
00:52:09,909 --> 00:52:11,693
There's too many trees up there.
957
00:52:11,954 --> 00:52:14,261
Now you create a heat source
that you can't stop.
958
00:52:16,045 --> 00:52:17,438
LUCY: And it's not just
the forests
959
00:52:17,482 --> 00:52:19,092
of northern California
where the fuel loads
960
00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:20,572
have drastically changed.
961
00:52:21,616 --> 00:52:23,488
When we first came to Malibu,
962
00:52:23,792 --> 00:52:26,143
of course,
there were no trees anywhere.
963
00:52:26,186 --> 00:52:28,493
But people who move here think
they want to build
964
00:52:28,536 --> 00:52:30,495
a little tropical paradise
in the desert.
965
00:52:30,973 --> 00:52:33,150
People that aren't really paying
much attention.
966
00:52:33,759 --> 00:52:36,675
SAM: There was so much fuel,
the eucalyptus trees,
967
00:52:36,718 --> 00:52:38,111
The palm trees
that people planted,
968
00:52:38,155 --> 00:52:39,199
they're matchsticks.
969
00:52:41,723 --> 00:52:44,030
KRISTEN: 2020 was the biggest
fire season on record
970
00:52:44,073 --> 00:52:46,511
in California. And thousands
971
00:52:46,902 --> 00:52:49,905
of the ancient giant sequoia
perished in these fires.
972
00:52:49,949 --> 00:52:51,994
And these are trees
that survive through hundreds
973
00:52:52,038 --> 00:52:53,822
of wildfires in their lifetimes.
974
00:52:54,214 --> 00:52:56,695
They are the quintessential
fire-adapted species,
975
00:52:57,086 --> 00:52:58,827
so they have really thick bark.
976
00:52:59,263 --> 00:53:01,265
Their cones are cue
to open with fire
977
00:53:01,308 --> 00:53:04,616
and land
on that really rich seed bed
978
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,574
that is cleared of debris.
979
00:53:06,618 --> 00:53:08,707
And what we're finding now
is more and more
980
00:53:08,750 --> 00:53:10,970
of these ancients giants
are dying
981
00:53:11,013 --> 00:53:12,319
as a result of the fire.
982
00:53:12,624 --> 00:53:15,496
So clearly like, we are doing
something wrong.
983
00:53:16,976 --> 00:53:19,674
LUCY: A month after these fires
in Paradise and Malibu,
984
00:53:19,935 --> 00:53:23,374
the Trump Administration issued
an executive order mandating
985
00:53:23,417 --> 00:53:26,855
a major increase in logging
as a solution to the fires.
986
00:53:27,595 --> 00:53:29,945
Forest fires burn,
this isn't a new norm.
987
00:53:30,337 --> 00:53:31,643
You know, it can be managed.
988
00:53:33,122 --> 00:53:34,689
The only endangered species
happens to be a logger.
989
00:53:35,212 --> 00:53:36,604
LUCY: But I was confused.
990
00:53:37,039 --> 00:53:39,738
Hadn't we learnt that California
had been logged?
991
00:53:40,956 --> 00:53:42,741
ZEKE: We had the Secretary
of Interior come out
992
00:53:42,784 --> 00:53:44,656
and say that a lack
of active land management
993
00:53:44,699 --> 00:53:46,397
was to blame for fires
like the Camp Fire.
994
00:53:47,006 --> 00:53:49,922
As a geographer I can say
that the industrial timberland
995
00:53:49,965 --> 00:53:52,098
that the Camp Fire burned across
on its way to Paradise
996
00:53:52,446 --> 00:53:55,884
was managed about as intensely
as you can manage land.
997
00:53:55,928 --> 00:53:58,757
We've had a ton of logging
in the area that was burned
998
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,020
by the Camp Fire
and it didn't save Paradise.
999
00:54:02,282 --> 00:54:05,372
LUCY: So is it too much logging
or too little logging?
1000
00:54:05,851 --> 00:54:08,245
And could that have been
a factor in the Camp Fire?
1001
00:54:11,596 --> 00:54:15,774
There's their rail road
right there, Diamond Match.
1002
00:54:16,035 --> 00:54:18,080
They would cut down a tree
bigger than anything
1003
00:54:18,124 --> 00:54:20,169
you can see around here,
take it down there,
1004
00:54:20,213 --> 00:54:21,388
and make match matchsticks.
1005
00:54:22,868 --> 00:54:24,173
LUCY: That's exactly right.
Diamond Match was here.
1006
00:54:24,217 --> 00:54:25,566
It's literally made
of matchsticks this place.
1007
00:54:25,610 --> 00:54:26,959
Made of matchsticks!
1008
00:54:27,351 --> 00:54:29,483
Paradise started out
Diamond Match.
1009
00:54:30,267 --> 00:54:32,660
Diamond Match used to own
all the land around here
1010
00:54:33,487 --> 00:54:35,097
'til BiC put 'em
out of business.
1011
00:54:35,446 --> 00:54:36,795
That little lighter.
1012
00:54:36,838 --> 00:54:39,667
So they turned the land over
to Sierra Pacific.
1013
00:54:41,365 --> 00:54:42,975
LUCY: So I looked
at the satellite image
1014
00:54:43,018 --> 00:54:45,804
of the Camp Fire burning
after about four hours.
1015
00:54:47,022 --> 00:54:49,547
And I looked at how much
of that land was owned
1016
00:54:49,590 --> 00:54:51,679
by Sierra Pacific Industries.
1017
00:54:53,377 --> 00:54:54,465
And look...
1018
00:54:56,510 --> 00:54:57,642
it's a lot.
1019
00:54:59,383 --> 00:55:01,559
Sierra Pacific is owned
by one guy.
1020
00:55:01,907 --> 00:55:03,430
You know, this Red Emmerson.
1021
00:55:04,301 --> 00:55:06,346
He's the largest
private land owner
1022
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:07,782
in the state of California.
1023
00:55:09,697 --> 00:55:10,698
LUCY: In fact, he's one
of the richest people
in the world,
1024
00:55:12,134 --> 00:55:12,352
but nobody seems
to have heard of him.
1025
00:55:13,701 --> 00:55:15,224
He's also
a huge Republican donor,
1026
00:55:15,268 --> 00:55:17,226
especially to members
of the agricultural committee
1027
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:18,967
which oversees forestry.
1028
00:55:19,403 --> 00:55:22,319
He personally owns 1.9 percent
of California,
1029
00:55:22,667 --> 00:55:25,539
making him the third
largest land owner in the US
1030
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,237
And it turns out
Sierra Pacific Industries
1031
00:55:28,281 --> 00:55:29,717
is very controversial.
1032
00:55:29,978 --> 00:55:32,677
For one thing,
because their practices involve
1033
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:33,852
clear-cutting.
1034
00:55:35,375 --> 00:55:37,638
What we like to do is select
an area of about 16 acres,
1035
00:55:38,073 --> 00:55:40,815
and cut down all the trees,
and essentially, start over.
1036
00:55:41,207 --> 00:55:43,644
Really more of a restoration
to the original forest.
1037
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:45,603
LUCY: But doesn't cutting down
all the trees
1038
00:55:45,646 --> 00:55:48,388
sound like the opposite
of an original forest?
1039
00:55:48,997 --> 00:55:50,912
I feel that forest
and fire ecology
1040
00:55:50,956 --> 00:55:52,000
is like opposite world.
1041
00:55:53,741 --> 00:55:56,918
What we're being told
by the logging industry is that
1042
00:55:56,962 --> 00:55:58,398
the more trees
you pull out of the forest,
1043
00:55:58,659 --> 00:56:00,400
the more
that's going to stop fires.
1044
00:56:00,705 --> 00:56:03,621
And the reality is
it's exactly the opposite.
1045
00:56:04,448 --> 00:56:06,058
ZEKE: The California Forest
Practice rules
1046
00:56:06,101 --> 00:56:08,495
require timber companies
to plant a lot of trees
1047
00:56:08,539 --> 00:56:09,670
when they clear-cut.
1048
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,457
The result is that now we have
enormously thick forests
1049
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:14,893
that we have to come and thin,
1050
00:56:14,936 --> 00:56:16,590
creating more
fire-prone conditions
1051
00:56:16,634 --> 00:56:18,984
in the woods by having slash,
and small branches,
1052
00:56:19,027 --> 00:56:20,638
and pine needles that have been
laying everywhere.
1053
00:56:21,639 --> 00:56:25,991
CHAD: And the logging
is spreading invasive grasses
1054
00:56:26,034 --> 00:56:28,776
like cheatgrass
which is incredibly combustible
1055
00:56:29,037 --> 00:56:31,562
and spreads fire very quickly,
and very intensely.
1056
00:56:32,301 --> 00:56:33,607
ZEKE: And we're
really subsidizing
1057
00:56:33,651 --> 00:56:35,740
their un-fire safe
land management,
1058
00:56:35,783 --> 00:56:37,785
because we pay
for all their fire suppression.
1059
00:56:38,525 --> 00:56:40,092
The public pays
for the air tankers
1060
00:56:40,135 --> 00:56:42,050
that come and drop.
They pay for the bulldozers.
1061
00:56:42,094 --> 00:56:43,356
They pay for the inmate crews
1062
00:56:44,096 --> 00:56:46,272
and it's not really
costing SPI...
1063
00:56:47,752 --> 00:56:49,101
anything at all.
1064
00:56:50,058 --> 00:56:52,017
STEPHEN: All of these
mammoth mega fires,
1065
00:56:52,496 --> 00:56:54,846
it was the debris left
from logging
1066
00:56:55,237 --> 00:56:56,891
that powered those fires.
1067
00:56:58,197 --> 00:56:59,981
Logging and fire
do different things.
1068
00:57:00,329 --> 00:57:02,767
Logging takes the big stuff
and leaves the little.
1069
00:57:03,245 --> 00:57:05,204
Fires burns the little
and leaves the big.
1070
00:57:06,248 --> 00:57:07,554
If you have a campfire
1071
00:57:07,598 --> 00:57:09,730
and it's starting to die down,
what do you do?
1072
00:57:09,774 --> 00:57:12,298
You throw in pine needles,
you throw in kindling,
1073
00:57:12,341 --> 00:57:13,821
you throw in
all the small stuff,
1074
00:57:13,865 --> 00:57:15,519
you throw in a big chunk
of green wood
1075
00:57:15,562 --> 00:57:18,826
and the fire's gonna go out.[MUSIC PLAYING]
1076
00:57:29,707 --> 00:57:31,709
LUCY: And those trucks
are serious on these roads, huh?
1077
00:57:31,970 --> 00:57:34,407
Well, they're limited on time.
1078
00:57:34,755 --> 00:57:36,627
They're trying to make
three trips a day
1079
00:57:36,670 --> 00:57:39,281
to the saw mills
in various locations.
1080
00:57:39,978 --> 00:57:42,197
And they don't have a lot
of patience for the tourists.
1081
00:57:42,502 --> 00:57:44,765
LUCY: Yeah.Yeah. Uh...
1082
00:57:46,506 --> 00:57:48,682
These guys are on
their second trip right now.
1083
00:57:55,733 --> 00:57:58,257
And that direction is where
the Camp Fire came from.
1084
00:58:00,346 --> 00:58:02,740
Uh, it's all
Sierra Pacific's ground.
1085
00:58:03,523 --> 00:58:04,872
It was an inferno in here.
1086
00:58:07,135 --> 00:58:10,008
We're now in the heart
of the Camp Fire
1087
00:58:10,487 --> 00:58:13,141
in an area that was heavily
post-fire logged
1088
00:58:13,185 --> 00:58:16,318
after a huge fire
that occurred in 2008.
1089
00:58:16,362 --> 00:58:19,670
LUCY: These trees
are all like eight feet tall.
1090
00:58:19,713 --> 00:58:21,585
I mean that's like, it's just--This is a tree plantation.
1091
00:58:21,628 --> 00:58:23,500
This is our stop. This is it.LUCY: Let's get out.
1092
00:58:23,543 --> 00:58:25,110
I'm like in shock.
1093
00:58:25,153 --> 00:58:27,591
Yeah, in fact, you can see
1094
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,159
the distance between
the little horizontal branches.
1095
00:58:31,420 --> 00:58:33,118
Those are called--
Every place where you got
1096
00:58:33,161 --> 00:58:35,294
horizontal branches coming out,
those are called "whirls".
1097
00:58:35,555 --> 00:58:38,819
Each section between the whirls
is a year of growth.
1098
00:58:38,863 --> 00:58:40,560
So these trees
are seven years old,
1099
00:58:40,604 --> 00:58:42,649
they're eight years old.
They're all young trees.
1100
00:58:42,693 --> 00:58:46,174
That are densely packed, planted
after the post-fire logging.
1101
00:58:46,697 --> 00:58:49,221
Not only is it
very damaging ecologically,
1102
00:58:49,264 --> 00:58:51,528
but it also means
that fires tend to burn hotter.
1103
00:58:51,571 --> 00:58:53,268
And that's
a very dangerous situation
1104
00:58:53,312 --> 00:58:54,574
when you've got a town nearby.
1105
00:58:56,097 --> 00:58:57,272
LUCY: How much reporting
has it been on the Camp Fire?
1106
00:58:57,316 --> 00:58:59,666
And I'm not hearing
this story anywhere.
1107
00:58:59,710 --> 00:59:01,929
LUCY: I couldn't help
but stare at that area
1108
00:59:01,973 --> 00:59:04,279
that burned so quickly
in the first four hours
1109
00:59:04,323 --> 00:59:05,411
of the Camp Fire.
1110
00:59:07,021 --> 00:59:08,414
Because I was realizing
all that area marked in black
1111
00:59:08,457 --> 00:59:10,111
had burned
in the last major fire
1112
00:59:10,155 --> 00:59:11,809
that happened
ten years previously
1113
00:59:11,852 --> 00:59:13,985
and subsequently,
had been post-fire logged.
1114
00:59:14,028 --> 00:59:16,074
And so these areas
marked in purple,
1115
00:59:16,117 --> 00:59:19,294
they were all Sierra Pacific's
young tree plantations.
1116
00:59:19,338 --> 00:59:22,384
All dense trees
less than ten years old.
1117
00:59:22,646 --> 00:59:24,952
You get fire into
those young plantations.
1118
00:59:25,257 --> 00:59:27,607
They get incinerated,
in fact, vaporized
1119
00:59:27,651 --> 00:59:28,826
is probably
a more accurate word.
1120
00:59:30,305 --> 00:59:31,698
And that's because
all the crowns are interlocked
1121
00:59:31,742 --> 00:59:33,047
and they're really close
to the ground.
1122
00:59:33,091 --> 00:59:34,658
So when a fire comes through,
1123
00:59:34,701 --> 00:59:36,573
it immediately just torches up
into one
1124
00:59:36,616 --> 00:59:38,444
and then spreads through
the whole thing.
1125
00:59:39,097 --> 00:59:42,317
As it pressed in this ridge,
it was in Concow in 15 minutes.
1126
00:59:42,579 --> 00:59:44,972
I don't think, with any of us,
have ever experienced
1127
00:59:45,016 --> 00:59:46,844
a wildfire that quick.
1128
00:59:47,496 --> 00:59:48,802
CHAD: That's incredibly fast.
1129
00:59:48,846 --> 00:59:50,935
It's the fastest forest fire
in California.
1130
00:59:51,718 --> 00:59:53,764
Fires just wick through
those areas
1131
00:59:54,112 --> 00:59:56,244
and like these things
are matchsticks.
1132
00:59:57,071 --> 00:59:59,160
This is the story
about the Camp Fire.
1133
00:59:59,465 --> 01:00:01,032
These post-fire
logging operations
1134
01:00:01,075 --> 01:00:03,034
are making fires burn
faster and hotter.
1135
01:00:03,382 --> 01:00:04,818
I mean, I'm not sure
how you could be
1136
01:00:05,079 --> 01:00:07,168
more heavily logged
than what we're looking at here.
1137
01:00:07,212 --> 01:00:10,345
This is industrial forestry
at its kind of maximum.
1138
01:00:10,868 --> 01:00:14,001
And what we saw is fire burning
at its maximum.
1139
01:00:14,959 --> 01:00:16,743
PETE: One of my good friends
Richard Brown
1140
01:00:16,787 --> 01:00:18,527
you know,
passed away in this fire.
1141
01:00:19,267 --> 01:00:23,358
Red Emmerson is obviously
a very good businessman,
1142
01:00:23,663 --> 01:00:25,056
but these clear-cuts
1143
01:00:25,317 --> 01:00:27,362
are nothing more
than ignition points.
1144
01:00:28,189 --> 01:00:31,279
The fire spread through
this area right down there
1145
01:00:31,323 --> 01:00:33,673
toward Concow Lake
and the community of Concow,
1146
01:00:33,717 --> 01:00:36,067
where 12 people out of 300
were killed,
1147
01:00:36,371 --> 01:00:37,851
because the fire
just moved so fast
1148
01:00:37,895 --> 01:00:39,592
and there just wasn't time
to evacuate.
1149
01:00:40,027 --> 01:00:42,508
And then it kept going through
more post-fire logged areas
1150
01:00:42,900 --> 01:00:44,989
very, very rapidly
up over the ridge
1151
01:00:45,032 --> 01:00:46,164
and into Paradise
1152
01:00:46,468 --> 01:00:47,948
where far more people
were killed.
1153
01:00:49,471 --> 01:00:52,431
LUCY: Every fire
from the tiniest BiC flame
1154
01:00:52,474 --> 01:00:55,347
to the sun itself
doesn't want to go out.
1155
01:00:55,608 --> 01:00:59,481
It tries its hardest
to stay alive as do we all.
1156
01:01:00,352 --> 01:01:03,485
Standing up there looking down
over that whole area
1157
01:01:03,529 --> 01:01:06,010
which I'd traveled around
talking to so many people,
1158
01:01:06,358 --> 01:01:08,403
hearing their stories
of so much suffering,
1159
01:01:08,447 --> 01:01:11,406
so much trauma, so much loss,
so much death,
1160
01:01:12,146 --> 01:01:14,888
it was so clear
that all our disruptions
1161
01:01:14,932 --> 01:01:17,630
of this landscape
were benefiting the fires
1162
01:01:18,109 --> 01:01:19,240
and not us.
1163
01:01:20,415 --> 01:01:26,117
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1164
01:01:28,859 --> 01:01:30,817
CALIN: How do you not feel
like you failed?
1165
01:01:32,123 --> 01:01:33,994
I mean it's all on the ground.
1166
01:01:37,215 --> 01:01:38,607
I'm a firefighter
1167
01:01:39,130 --> 01:01:41,393
and this fire
just destroyed this town.
1168
01:01:45,049 --> 01:01:50,532
How do I live with that feeling
of, "Did you do enough?"
1169
01:01:52,143 --> 01:01:54,188
FIREMAN: And a lot of firemen
that saw a lot of bad things
1170
01:01:54,232 --> 01:01:56,495
that day that are questioning
whether or not
1171
01:01:56,538 --> 01:01:58,323
they want to continue
their career as firemen.
1172
01:01:58,802 --> 01:02:00,151
BRAD: Yes.So.
1173
01:02:00,194 --> 01:02:01,979
BRAD: A lot of death,
a lot of people burned up.
1174
01:02:02,022 --> 01:02:04,590
Yeah.A lot of ugly, a lot of ugly.
1175
01:02:04,633 --> 01:02:07,767
MALE VOICE: Yes.
We had a lot of regular patients
1176
01:02:07,811 --> 01:02:09,856
that we went to
on a regular basis to help
1177
01:02:10,552 --> 01:02:12,250
through the past
ten, 15, 20 years
1178
01:02:12,293 --> 01:02:15,383
and then going to those homes
and finding their remains.
1179
01:02:15,427 --> 01:02:18,082
That's probably the worst.
1180
01:02:21,346 --> 01:02:24,479
Officer: We don't really
get that time to process
and mourn,
1181
01:02:24,523 --> 01:02:26,220
because the fire
is still burning.
1182
01:02:29,397 --> 01:02:30,747
JASON: "I could've saved
more people,
1183
01:02:30,790 --> 01:02:33,140
could've saved that house.
I could've done more.
1184
01:02:33,184 --> 01:02:34,751
I could've done more,"
you question yourself.
1185
01:02:36,753 --> 01:02:38,363
MATT: When you roll the incident
through your head
1186
01:02:38,406 --> 01:02:40,321
right before bed,
when your brain takes over,
1187
01:02:40,844 --> 01:02:42,106
and start saying,
1188
01:02:43,629 --> 01:02:45,283
"What if the winds
went this way that day?
1189
01:02:45,326 --> 01:02:47,024
What if I could have done...",
you know your rational side
1190
01:02:47,067 --> 01:02:48,634
has to come in and say,
"You would have died
1191
01:02:48,677 --> 01:02:49,809
if you had tried that
1192
01:02:51,202 --> 01:02:52,072
or you would have just
killed your crew."
1193
01:02:53,421 --> 01:02:54,509
I'll be re-playing
for a long time.
1194
01:03:02,866 --> 01:03:07,609
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1195
01:03:14,747 --> 01:03:16,357
BRAD: You enjoyed
all the company, ma?
1196
01:03:16,705 --> 01:03:17,794
Oh yeah.
1197
01:03:17,837 --> 01:03:21,798
You need some Cheerios,
spaghetti?
1198
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,192
Well, now then you hit it.You want spaghetti?
1199
01:03:25,932 --> 01:03:27,804
All right.
I'll get you some spaghetti.
1200
01:03:28,674 --> 01:03:29,675
Love you.
1201
01:03:30,981 --> 01:03:33,374
I sure love you, honey,
like with all of me.
1202
01:03:34,288 --> 01:03:37,074
There are 20 people living here.
1203
01:03:38,379 --> 01:03:40,381
From three before the fire.
1204
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,082
The little trailer,
that was a donation.
1205
01:03:45,647 --> 01:03:48,346
Somebody said,
"Use that long as you want."
1206
01:03:48,389 --> 01:03:51,001
That one we bought cheap.
That one we bought cheap.
1207
01:03:51,305 --> 01:03:53,177
LUCY: How do you describe
what's going on here?
1208
01:03:54,352 --> 01:03:55,483
Small commune.
1209
01:03:56,789 --> 01:03:58,660
Small commune,
you know there's 20 of us.
1210
01:03:58,704 --> 01:04:00,184
I guess that qualifies.
1211
01:04:02,882 --> 01:04:04,275
LUCY: What do you--
What was that look for?
1212
01:04:04,318 --> 01:04:07,713
[LAUGHS] You know,
just that occasional, uh-oh.
1213
01:04:08,540 --> 01:04:10,194
LUCY: Why's that?I miss her.
1214
01:04:14,328 --> 01:04:16,548
I try not to think
about those things.
1215
01:04:17,984 --> 01:04:19,899
Think about
the depressing things,
1216
01:04:19,943 --> 01:04:21,118
this happens.
1217
01:04:21,858 --> 01:04:23,511
So I don't like
to think about it.
1218
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,560
Stay on the other side.
1219
01:04:33,608 --> 01:04:36,350
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1220
01:04:36,394 --> 01:04:39,440
MALE VOICE: Okay, can you
please just give me
a moment here please.
1221
01:04:39,484 --> 01:04:41,268
And then we don't tone it down.
1222
01:04:41,312 --> 01:04:43,444
And find a direction,
so that we can move forward
1223
01:04:43,488 --> 01:04:45,359
this so that when the east end
of Malibu burns,
1224
01:04:45,403 --> 01:04:46,926
we can say, "We addressed it."
1225
01:04:46,970 --> 01:04:49,015
Because in the next couple
of years the east end of town
1226
01:04:49,059 --> 01:04:51,104
is gonna burn.[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1227
01:04:51,148 --> 01:04:52,671
REVA: Hi, everybody.
I'm Reva Feldman.
1228
01:04:52,714 --> 01:04:55,674
I am the city manager.[AUDIENCE BOOING]
1229
01:04:55,717 --> 01:04:58,503
FEMALE VOICE: Oh, let her talk
a minute, geez.
1230
01:04:59,330 --> 01:05:00,722
I didn't start the fire
1231
01:05:00,766 --> 01:05:02,855
and I am not responsible
for putting out the fire,
1232
01:05:02,899 --> 01:05:04,944
so you're booing
is inappropriate.
1233
01:05:05,292 --> 01:05:07,207
That's why the fire department
is here.
1234
01:05:07,251 --> 01:05:10,645
They're here on my request
to answer these questions.
1235
01:05:11,081 --> 01:05:12,560
ED: Everybody wants to blame
1236
01:05:12,604 --> 01:05:14,258
somebody for their house
burning down.
1237
01:05:15,215 --> 01:05:17,174
Well, they'll look
for anything to blame.
1238
01:05:19,654 --> 01:05:22,266
This is gonna get wild.
1239
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:23,789
MALE VOICE: Well,
my son was right there.
1240
01:05:23,832 --> 01:05:25,269
We saved our house. I didn't...I don't--
1241
01:05:25,312 --> 01:05:26,966
...see one firefighter
the entire time.
1242
01:05:27,314 --> 01:05:29,186
There were more children
fighting the fire
1243
01:05:29,229 --> 01:05:31,057
than there were firefighters
in Malibu park.
1244
01:05:31,101 --> 01:05:32,885
Well, I can tell you this--FEMALE VOICE: I wanna know
1245
01:05:33,103 --> 01:05:34,974
who was giving those orders
1246
01:05:35,018 --> 01:05:36,454
specifically.The-- yeah--
1247
01:05:36,497 --> 01:05:38,804
FEMALE VOICE: There are 19 homes
on my street
1248
01:05:38,847 --> 01:05:41,024
and the adjacent street
burned to the ground.
1249
01:05:41,067 --> 01:05:44,897
What policemen, what policemen?[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
1250
01:05:44,941 --> 01:05:47,682
Easy and everybody here--
1251
01:05:47,726 --> 01:05:49,728
MALE VOICE 2:
I came up here in 1978.
1252
01:05:50,511 --> 01:05:53,166
My engine alone saved
eight houses on Bush Drive.
1253
01:05:53,471 --> 01:05:55,690
You see a fire,
you go put it out.
1254
01:05:55,734 --> 01:05:57,127
What happened to that?[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
1255
01:05:57,170 --> 01:05:58,780
What happened to that?
1256
01:06:00,826 --> 01:06:02,741
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
1257
01:06:04,264 --> 01:06:08,834
It kind of disappointing,
hurtful, frustrating
1258
01:06:09,052 --> 01:06:11,619
when you hear this stuff
and know that you know,
1259
01:06:11,663 --> 01:06:13,143
I haven't seen my family
in eight days.
1260
01:06:13,578 --> 01:06:15,884
We threw everything
in the world at this.
1261
01:06:15,928 --> 01:06:18,365
But when you have
a 150 square miles,
1262
01:06:18,409 --> 01:06:20,715
you're not gonna get
a fire engine at every house.
1263
01:06:21,064 --> 01:06:23,544
There's 3,700 badge
sworn personnel
1264
01:06:23,588 --> 01:06:25,677
in the fire department
for LA County
1265
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,984
and there wasn't one person
at home.
1266
01:06:28,506 --> 01:06:30,247
FIREFIGHER: One of the stages
of grief is anger.
1267
01:06:30,290 --> 01:06:32,771
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1268
01:06:32,814 --> 01:06:35,295
We just have to let people
go through those stages
1269
01:06:35,339 --> 01:06:38,864
however they need to to grieve
the loss of their home.
1270
01:06:40,518 --> 01:06:43,477
In northern California,
they blamed the trees
and environmental community.
1271
01:06:43,912 --> 01:06:45,436
And then in southern California,
1272
01:06:45,479 --> 01:06:47,655
they blamed the firefighters
and the environmental community.
1273
01:06:48,004 --> 01:06:49,483
I remember after the Cedar Fire,
1274
01:06:50,180 --> 01:06:52,399
they were literally
throwing rocks at fire engines.
1275
01:06:54,097 --> 01:06:56,229
In truth, the people who live
in these areas,
1276
01:06:56,273 --> 01:06:59,276
they won't even pay the taxes
to have more firefighters.
1277
01:06:59,319 --> 01:07:02,714
After the catastrophic fires
in 2003,
1278
01:07:02,757 --> 01:07:05,412
there was measure on the ballot
to increase taxes
1279
01:07:05,673 --> 01:07:08,328
to pay for more firefighters
was voted down.
1280
01:07:08,633 --> 01:07:11,375
And many people don't realize
who fights fires.
1281
01:07:11,418 --> 01:07:16,336
Forty percent
of the firefighting force
are prisoners.
1282
01:07:16,945 --> 01:07:19,470
So California for years
has basically been using
1283
01:07:19,731 --> 01:07:22,603
slave labor
to fight these fires.
1284
01:07:23,256 --> 01:07:24,997
There's just
so many firefighters.
1285
01:07:25,041 --> 01:07:26,042
You can't have--
1286
01:07:27,434 --> 01:07:29,045
there's just no way
they can save these communities.
1287
01:07:29,088 --> 01:07:30,872
It's not physically possible.
1288
01:07:30,916 --> 01:07:33,788
You can't do it
with these monster storms
1289
01:07:33,832 --> 01:07:35,964
and I still don't think
the public understands that.
1290
01:07:39,446 --> 01:07:40,926
Point fingers
in other directions
1291
01:07:40,969 --> 01:07:42,058
other than yourself.
1292
01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:43,972
It's what they're all doing.
1293
01:07:45,539 --> 01:07:46,845
LUCY: It came out with the fires
in Paradise and Malibu
1294
01:07:46,888 --> 01:07:48,716
had been started
by electric companies.
1295
01:07:49,152 --> 01:07:50,849
LYNNIE: Everybody saying,
"Oh, PG and E.
1296
01:07:50,892 --> 01:07:52,068
We should sue PG and E."
1297
01:07:53,373 --> 01:07:55,462
Let me tell you
if it weren't for PG and E,
1298
01:07:55,506 --> 01:07:56,985
there would be no Paradise.
1299
01:07:57,029 --> 01:08:00,119
They're tasked
with an impossible job of mus--
1300
01:08:00,163 --> 01:08:02,339
moving huge amounts
of electricity
1301
01:08:02,382 --> 01:08:03,818
through wilderness areas.
1302
01:08:04,167 --> 01:08:08,823
And when it's already dry,
static electricity from anything
1303
01:08:08,867 --> 01:08:11,783
can start a fire.
[MIMICS STATIC] Anything.
1304
01:08:15,003 --> 01:08:16,744
LUCY: Like this
gender reveal party
1305
01:08:16,788 --> 01:08:18,094
in the Arizona suburb,
1306
01:08:18,964 --> 01:08:21,445
the blue smoke lets you know
that it's a boy
1307
01:08:21,488 --> 01:08:24,012
and his father was fined
eight million dollars
1308
01:08:24,056 --> 01:08:27,103
for starting
this 47,000 acre fire.
1309
01:08:27,407 --> 01:08:29,017
MALE VOICE: Start packing up!FEMALE VOICE: Huh?
1310
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:30,541
MALE VOICE: Start packing up!
1311
01:08:32,151 --> 01:08:32,934
LUCY: So you're probably
thinking that that was the only
1312
01:08:32,978 --> 01:08:33,761
gender reveal party
1313
01:08:35,198 --> 01:08:36,242
that caused a major
multimillion-dollar fire.
1314
01:08:37,591 --> 01:08:39,071
But there's been another.
The El Dorado Fire.
1315
01:08:39,332 --> 01:08:41,073
And it killed a firefighter.
1316
01:08:41,552 --> 01:08:45,251
And in 2020, the record-breaking
mega fires were started by...
1317
01:08:45,295 --> 01:08:46,731
[THUNDER RUMBLES]
1318
01:08:46,774 --> 01:08:47,949
...dry lightning...
1319
01:08:49,212 --> 01:08:52,215
the weather,
who do you blame then?
1320
01:08:53,041 --> 01:08:55,043
With all talk about
the new normal,
1321
01:08:55,261 --> 01:08:56,741
I'm only realizing now
1322
01:08:56,784 --> 01:09:00,223
that the normal normal already
had a lot of fires.
1323
01:09:01,267 --> 01:09:02,660
Take Paradise.
1324
01:09:03,269 --> 01:09:05,532
In the 20 years
leading up to the Camp Fire,
1325
01:09:05,576 --> 01:09:07,969
there had been 13 major fires
1326
01:09:08,666 --> 01:09:10,407
and there've already been
two since,
1327
01:09:10,711 --> 01:09:13,236
including the 2020 Bear Fire
that burned
1328
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:16,587
right up to the campfire scar
and killed 16.
1329
01:09:17,849 --> 01:09:19,590
BRAD: My mom lost her house
as a child.
1330
01:09:20,330 --> 01:09:23,202
When we were children,
we lost our house twice.
1331
01:09:24,334 --> 01:09:27,424
Since I've been an adult,
I've lost my house twice.
1332
01:09:27,467 --> 01:09:28,947
All to fire.
1333
01:09:28,990 --> 01:09:30,862
MIKE: You look at Malibu
and Paradise.
1334
01:09:31,254 --> 01:09:33,995
Both these areas burn
all the time.
1335
01:09:34,561 --> 01:09:36,259
There's nothing new here.
1336
01:09:36,302 --> 01:09:38,130
ED HERLIHY: A rush
in forest fire that menaces
1337
01:09:38,174 --> 01:09:40,306
the swank Hollywood colony
of Malibu.
1338
01:09:40,654 --> 01:09:43,091
LUCY: I found films about
Malibu burning in the 1940s,
1339
01:09:43,614 --> 01:09:47,183
the 1950s, the 1960s,
and the 1970s.
1340
01:09:47,226 --> 01:09:49,141
REPORTER: Strong winds
was blowing it southern.
1341
01:09:49,185 --> 01:09:52,144
The houses in the path
of the fire stood no chance.
1342
01:09:52,753 --> 01:09:54,190
MALE VOICE: It was like a roar.
1343
01:09:54,233 --> 01:09:56,192
I never heard anything
like that before.
1344
01:09:56,235 --> 01:09:58,455
It sounded almost
maybe, war-like.
1345
01:10:00,021 --> 01:10:02,372
Millions-of-dollars-worth
of houses burnt.
1346
01:10:03,329 --> 01:10:06,289
REPORTER: The approach
of the Los Angeles
Fire department now
1347
01:10:06,332 --> 01:10:09,292
is to prevent any fire
however small.
1348
01:10:11,424 --> 01:10:14,297
GLENN: Yeah, I'm wondering
if the '61 fire
1349
01:10:14,340 --> 01:10:17,691
was a one in a million chance
that couldn't happen again.
1350
01:10:18,649 --> 01:10:22,000
Or could it be that someday
when the Santa Ana is blowing
1351
01:10:22,696 --> 01:10:24,698
and the brush is tinder-dry,
1352
01:10:25,177 --> 01:10:27,310
the whole story
would be repeated.
1353
01:10:27,745 --> 01:10:30,530
LUCY: Well, 57 fires have burned
through Malibu
1354
01:10:30,574 --> 01:10:32,053
since he asked that question.
1355
01:10:35,579 --> 01:10:37,581
And it's not just Paradise
and Malibu.
1356
01:10:37,885 --> 01:10:42,716
The Tubbs Fire in California's
Wine Country in 2017 killed 22.
1357
01:10:43,021 --> 01:10:44,805
And everyone was so shocked
1358
01:10:45,066 --> 01:10:46,242
that it had happened
where it had.
1359
01:10:47,678 --> 01:10:49,201
But a fire with exactly
the same footprint
1360
01:10:49,506 --> 01:10:51,334
had burned in 1964.
1361
01:10:51,377 --> 01:10:54,293
And what we should be shocked at
is that it hadn't stopped
1362
01:10:54,337 --> 01:10:56,426
the construction
of thousands of homes
1363
01:10:56,730 --> 01:10:58,341
right in the line of fire.
1364
01:10:59,124 --> 01:11:01,082
HALSEY: I don't understand
why you can have
1365
01:11:01,126 --> 01:11:03,650
literally hundreds of people
dying and homes destroyed,
1366
01:11:03,694 --> 01:11:05,565
and we keep going back
to what we're doing.
1367
01:11:05,609 --> 01:11:07,263
Actually what we do
is we do more
1368
01:11:07,306 --> 01:11:08,960
of what we've always been doing.
1369
01:11:09,917 --> 01:11:11,397
LUCY: Twenty-two people
were killed
1370
01:11:11,441 --> 01:11:14,835
in the 2018 debris flow
caused by the Thomas Fire.
1371
01:11:15,314 --> 01:11:17,751
And the Thomas Fire
came through here pretty hard.
1372
01:11:18,012 --> 01:11:20,406
LUCY: And I found
a Woody Guthrie song
from the '60s
1373
01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:22,321
and a John McPhee article
from the '80s
1374
01:11:22,365 --> 01:11:25,150
that could have described
the exact same incident.
1375
01:11:25,193 --> 01:11:27,892
So when people move in,
doesn't anyone mention to them
1376
01:11:27,935 --> 01:11:30,111
how the previous residents
were killed?
1377
01:11:30,155 --> 01:11:31,765
I mean how many deaths
do we have to have?
1378
01:11:31,809 --> 01:11:34,115
How many communities,
how many thousands of houses
1379
01:11:34,420 --> 01:11:37,118
does it go before we even have
a serious discussion.
1380
01:11:38,903 --> 01:11:40,861
LUCY: So let's do it.
1381
01:11:41,471 --> 01:11:43,124
Let's have that
serious discussion.
1382
01:11:44,082 --> 01:11:47,694
Between 40 and 50 percent
of all the new housing
1383
01:11:47,738 --> 01:11:50,218
in California
in the last 20 years
1384
01:11:50,262 --> 01:11:52,612
is built
in hazardous fire areas.
1385
01:11:55,136 --> 01:11:57,051
HALSEY: There's this funny term
called "the WUI".
1386
01:11:57,443 --> 01:12:00,011
Stands for
Wildland Urban Interface.
1387
01:12:00,751 --> 01:12:03,188
And WUI all it is is like
where we live
1388
01:12:03,231 --> 01:12:04,320
next to wildland areas.
1389
01:12:05,973 --> 01:12:07,279
LYNNIE: And society is grown
so much, it's pushing us
1390
01:12:07,323 --> 01:12:10,064
more and more
on the fringes of these areas.
1391
01:12:10,413 --> 01:12:12,328
You're gonna see
more catastrophic fires.
1392
01:12:12,371 --> 01:12:13,894
You're gonna see
more dead people.
1393
01:12:13,938 --> 01:12:15,940
This is only the beginning.LUCY: How come?
1394
01:12:15,983 --> 01:12:18,682
'Cause there's a 100,000 towns
like Paradise.
1395
01:12:20,336 --> 01:12:24,557
Right within driving distance.
1396
01:12:25,384 --> 01:12:28,082
This community I live in,
if you drive around here,
1397
01:12:28,126 --> 01:12:29,432
you can look--
you wanna know what Paradise
1398
01:12:29,475 --> 01:12:31,303
looked like before the fire,
drive on out to Sierra.
1399
01:12:31,695 --> 01:12:33,174
Right up the hill here.
1400
01:12:33,218 --> 01:12:35,612
Five thousand homes
and there's only one way out.
1401
01:12:36,003 --> 01:12:37,657
There's a 100,000 people
in this county
1402
01:12:37,701 --> 01:12:38,745
that would have to evacuate.
1403
01:12:40,268 --> 01:12:42,009
What if we're sitting here
talking about 3,700 fatalities?
1404
01:12:42,662 --> 01:12:44,882
We were that close to having
that type of incident.
1405
01:12:46,013 --> 01:12:47,450
I think about that quite a bit.
1406
01:12:47,928 --> 01:12:51,018
I've been in every major fire
in the state since 1990
1407
01:12:51,367 --> 01:12:53,281
and you know what,
I've never been to a community
1408
01:12:53,325 --> 01:12:54,892
that had that much
meticulous planning.
1409
01:12:55,153 --> 01:12:56,850
We had planned for fires
1410
01:12:56,894 --> 01:13:00,941
and a fire very similar
to this one happened in 2008
1411
01:13:01,246 --> 01:13:05,206
and we didn't have
a real good system
1412
01:13:05,250 --> 01:13:08,253
for evacuation.
So we came up with a new plan.
1413
01:13:08,688 --> 01:13:11,909
The town was divided into zones
with all the lanes
1414
01:13:11,952 --> 01:13:15,129
going out of town.
We practiced that.
1415
01:13:16,566 --> 01:13:19,133
To empty this place out
as quick as we did, I was--
1416
01:13:19,699 --> 01:13:21,875
I was pretty happy
with how that came out.
1417
01:13:22,615 --> 01:13:24,530
The plan worked,
the plan worked well.
1418
01:13:24,574 --> 01:13:25,836
And it's because
we practiced it.
1419
01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:31,189
I don't see how they can call
wholesale fucking abandon
1420
01:13:31,232 --> 01:13:33,104
running, screaming
down the street
1421
01:13:33,147 --> 01:13:35,367
leaving your car behind
a success.
1422
01:13:35,411 --> 01:13:36,629
They should be thankful
1423
01:13:36,673 --> 01:13:38,631
the whole fucking town
didn't die.
1424
01:13:39,632 --> 01:13:44,332
What we didn't anticipate
is evacuating the entire town
1425
01:13:44,376 --> 01:13:45,421
all at once.
1426
01:13:46,726 --> 01:13:49,033
It is not possible to build
a roadway system
1427
01:13:49,076 --> 01:13:51,557
that will take
your entire population
1428
01:13:51,601 --> 01:13:54,430
all at the same time.
No city has that.
1429
01:13:54,778 --> 01:13:57,911
Clearly, evacuation
of 30,000 people
1430
01:13:57,955 --> 01:14:00,784
during a wind-driven forest fire
is impossible.
1431
01:14:01,654 --> 01:14:04,352
Even just planning an evacuation
gives people
1432
01:14:04,396 --> 01:14:06,006
this kinda false sense
of security
1433
01:14:06,050 --> 01:14:07,051
that it's actually possible.
1434
01:14:08,835 --> 01:14:11,011
All these places,
it's their wind tunnels.
1435
01:14:11,359 --> 01:14:13,536
They're very productive,
they grow lots of vegetation.
1436
01:14:14,798 --> 01:14:16,539
And then we go,
and we build a bunch of
1437
01:14:16,582 --> 01:14:18,323
little wood stick houses
and then we burn them
1438
01:14:18,366 --> 01:14:19,411
and people go, "Oh".
1439
01:14:20,978 --> 01:14:24,851
MIKE: Behind all this
is the lack of regional planning
1440
01:14:25,286 --> 01:14:27,985
to control development
into hazardous areas.
1441
01:14:30,117 --> 01:14:33,512
Even people who live
in developed neighborhoods
1442
01:14:33,556 --> 01:14:37,995
with green lawns not in sight
of any brush or chaparral
1443
01:14:38,038 --> 01:14:40,911
or forests at all.
Their neighborhoods can burn.
1444
01:14:42,303 --> 01:14:44,784
That's the new reality
and it frankly,
1445
01:14:44,828 --> 01:14:47,483
scares a lot of people to death
for good reason.
1446
01:14:48,266 --> 01:14:50,181
Could Los Angeles burn?
1447
01:14:50,573 --> 01:14:53,140
The urban fabric itself,
absolutely.
1448
01:14:53,184 --> 01:14:55,534
Easily imagine
a Laurel Canyon fire
1449
01:14:55,578 --> 01:14:59,669
that ended up on Hollywood
or Sunset Boulevard.
1450
01:15:00,496 --> 01:15:02,585
These areas
where fire's inevitable,
1451
01:15:03,455 --> 01:15:06,458
should be public lands.
They should be parks.
1452
01:15:08,286 --> 01:15:12,116
Back in the 1920s,
the most famous urban planners,
1453
01:15:12,159 --> 01:15:14,510
the Olmsted Brothers came to LA
1454
01:15:14,771 --> 01:15:18,209
and did this comprehensive study
and they argued that
1455
01:15:18,470 --> 01:15:20,385
people who want to live
in the mountains,
1456
01:15:20,428 --> 01:15:23,867
they should live essentially
in cabins.
1457
01:15:24,911 --> 01:15:27,435
And structures
of very little value
1458
01:15:27,740 --> 01:15:30,177
and not keep
great possessions there.
1459
01:15:30,221 --> 01:15:32,702
Because fire is inevitable.
1460
01:15:34,530 --> 01:15:35,618
LUCY: Imagine that.
1461
01:15:37,184 --> 01:15:38,316
Carefree little cabins
that you could just let burn,
1462
01:15:39,056 --> 01:15:40,971
but a hundred years on
it's clear
1463
01:15:41,624 --> 01:15:43,495
that we didn't go
in that direction.
1464
01:15:43,539 --> 01:15:46,324
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING,
CHEERING ]
1465
01:15:46,585 --> 01:15:49,370
MALE VOICE: Kim Kardashian
addressed her
and Kanye's decision
1466
01:15:49,414 --> 01:15:52,591
to hire private firefighters
to protect their home
1467
01:15:52,635 --> 01:15:54,332
from the wildfires.[HELICOPTER BLADES WHIRRING]
1468
01:15:54,375 --> 01:15:56,160
We were fortunate enough
and I know that
1469
01:15:56,203 --> 01:15:59,163
not everyone has this luxury
available to them,
1470
01:15:59,206 --> 01:16:01,513
but we were able to get
private firefighters.
1471
01:16:01,557 --> 01:16:03,210
A company that you can hire.
1472
01:16:03,515 --> 01:16:05,386
They saved our home,
and you know,
1473
01:16:05,430 --> 01:16:07,606
that was such a blessing
that we were able to do that.
1474
01:16:07,650 --> 01:16:09,042
There's a private
for everything.[CHUCKLES]
1475
01:16:09,086 --> 01:16:11,262
Right, you can get a...But I do--
1476
01:16:11,305 --> 01:16:13,481
it's just like a--
it's an interesting issue
1477
01:16:13,525 --> 01:16:15,658
that you know,
as climate change is happening,
1478
01:16:15,701 --> 01:16:17,311
as these issues are coming up,
1479
01:16:17,355 --> 01:16:19,618
is it going to be the people
with money
1480
01:16:19,662 --> 01:16:21,707
that are able to protect
their stuff?
1481
01:16:21,968 --> 01:16:24,580
BYOB. Bring Your Own Brigade.
1482
01:16:25,102 --> 01:16:28,409
Some people are wealthy enough
to have their own brigades.
1483
01:16:28,453 --> 01:16:30,890
And it seems to be growing
more and more every year.
1484
01:16:30,934 --> 01:16:32,588
There's more and more trucks
we see.
1485
01:16:32,849 --> 01:16:34,111
I mean I've gone
to a couple fires.
1486
01:16:34,154 --> 01:16:35,416
We pull up to our houses
1487
01:16:35,460 --> 01:16:39,246
and there's five other trucks
on scene
1488
01:16:39,290 --> 01:16:41,684
and none of 'em are from
the county or from the city.
1489
01:16:41,727 --> 01:16:43,076
They're all private.
1490
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,817
In some cases,
homeowners will be out saying,
1491
01:16:44,861 --> 01:16:46,950
"Hey, you know,
fire's in my backyard,
1492
01:16:46,993 --> 01:16:48,908
but that's where we got that."
1493
01:16:49,779 --> 01:16:51,737
If you're not on list,
the bad rap.
1494
01:16:52,303 --> 01:16:55,132
So that's kind of the difference
between us and them.
1495
01:16:55,175 --> 01:16:57,134
You know, we're going
to a specific house
1496
01:16:57,177 --> 01:16:59,136
to where they are going
to all the houses.
1497
01:17:00,354 --> 01:17:02,618
HALSEY: So you're wondering
why do we approve buildings,
1498
01:17:02,661 --> 01:17:05,229
and homes, and communities
in places that are dangerous.
1499
01:17:05,795 --> 01:17:08,275
And all I can say
it's fundamentally about money.
1500
01:17:09,059 --> 01:17:11,452
DAVE: Right now a County that's
approving a new subdivision
1501
01:17:11,496 --> 01:17:12,628
in the Wildland Urban Interface,
1502
01:17:14,107 --> 01:17:15,108
they don't bear any liability
for that decision.
1503
01:17:16,806 --> 01:17:18,808
But when the fire comes,
the cost of that decision
1504
01:17:19,112 --> 01:17:21,941
is borne by the insurer,
by the families themselves,
1505
01:17:21,985 --> 01:17:25,031
by federal and state
emergency responders.
1506
01:17:25,075 --> 01:17:27,686
So we have this disconnect
between who bears the cost
1507
01:17:27,730 --> 01:17:30,820
of this decision and who,
ultimately makes this decision.
1508
01:17:31,298 --> 01:17:32,517
And it's a problem.
1509
01:17:34,171 --> 01:17:35,607
DON: Following the fire,
a lot of insurance companies
1510
01:17:35,651 --> 01:17:37,217
started sending
non-renewal notices out.
1511
01:17:37,696 --> 01:17:39,219
Not even within
the fire footprint,
1512
01:17:39,263 --> 01:17:41,439
I mean just anybody within
the Wildland Urban Interface.
1513
01:17:41,482 --> 01:17:43,093
And it's not--
I know it's not just me, it's--
1514
01:17:43,136 --> 01:17:44,660
it's other land owners,
we were facing
1515
01:17:44,703 --> 01:17:45,748
that same problem.
1516
01:17:47,314 --> 01:17:48,925
LUCY: After these fires,
insurance companies
1517
01:17:48,968 --> 01:17:51,144
were dropping customers so fast
that the state had to impose
1518
01:17:51,188 --> 01:17:55,671
a moratorium, forcing insurers
to stay insuring homes from fire
1519
01:17:55,714 --> 01:17:56,889
through 2021.
1520
01:17:58,456 --> 01:18:00,632
But after that when these homes
are no longer insurable,
1521
01:18:01,459 --> 01:18:02,808
what's going to happen?
1522
01:18:03,548 --> 01:18:04,941
DAVE: That's the path
that we're on.
1523
01:18:05,202 --> 01:18:08,205
It's a march towards a future
of uninsurability
1524
01:18:08,248 --> 01:18:09,685
in the Wildland Urban Interface.
1525
01:18:10,686 --> 01:18:12,470
We've got into a place
in our own trajectory
1526
01:18:12,513 --> 01:18:15,342
as human beings
where we're so confident
1527
01:18:15,386 --> 01:18:19,651
in our ability to control nature
and natural events.
1528
01:18:19,912 --> 01:18:23,307
And so we've gotta be
a little bit less hubristic.
1529
01:18:24,047 --> 01:18:26,963
CHAR: It's the city who I think
oughta be held responsible.
1530
01:18:27,224 --> 01:18:29,966
Homes were okayed
by the planning commission
1531
01:18:30,009 --> 01:18:32,838
and the zoning board. It's not
the fire station's fault.
1532
01:18:32,882 --> 01:18:34,100
It's city hall's fault.
1533
01:18:35,058 --> 01:18:36,624
FIREFIGHTER:
I will tell you this.
1534
01:18:36,668 --> 01:18:39,236
We're gonna do all that we can
to help rebuild Malibu.
1535
01:18:39,279 --> 01:18:40,759
But we do have fire codes
1536
01:18:40,803 --> 01:18:42,413
and we have fire codes
for a reason.
1537
01:18:43,022 --> 01:18:46,373
Because in the past,
people have died, number one,
1538
01:18:47,113 --> 01:18:48,245
and it's for your safety.
1539
01:18:49,768 --> 01:18:50,900
Chief, we've got
3.6 million dollars
in the ground
1540
01:18:50,943 --> 01:18:53,293
that we can't sell,
we can't use,
1541
01:18:53,337 --> 01:18:54,642
we can't do anything on.
1542
01:18:55,034 --> 01:18:56,122
This is a disaster.
1543
01:18:57,428 --> 01:18:59,473
Who's going to put
something into action now,
1544
01:19:00,039 --> 01:19:01,737
so that we can build our home?
1545
01:19:03,608 --> 01:19:04,783
MALIBU COUNCIL MEMBER:
Is there any way
we could help our residents
1546
01:19:04,827 --> 01:19:06,567
get their homes rebuilt quicker?
1547
01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:10,136
ZEKE: I understand
that we need housing,
1548
01:19:10,615 --> 01:19:14,010
but to suspend all planning,
just so we can build
1549
01:19:14,053 --> 01:19:17,796
stuff faster,
that's fucking crazy.
1550
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,364
We're just gonna burn
those houses up, you know
1551
01:19:20,407 --> 01:19:23,062
and we'll be doing this again
in 20 years.[SIREN WAILING]
1552
01:19:23,106 --> 01:19:25,717
CHAD: So we need to accept
that there's gonna be fire
1553
01:19:25,935 --> 01:19:29,852
and we need to understand that
the goal is to make sure that
1554
01:19:29,895 --> 01:19:32,419
when fire occurs,
not if but when,
1555
01:19:32,463 --> 01:19:35,814
that homes don't burn down.[SIRENS WAILING]
1556
01:19:35,858 --> 01:19:37,381
CHAD: What the science
is telling us
1557
01:19:37,424 --> 01:19:40,123
is that the only way
to protect homes
1558
01:19:40,427 --> 01:19:43,039
is to make the homes themselves
more fire-safe.
1559
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:45,737
Most of the homes
that are burning
1560
01:19:45,781 --> 01:19:48,261
are not burning from
direct contact with flames.
1561
01:19:48,305 --> 01:19:51,438
They're burning from embers
that are floating on the winds.
1562
01:19:52,526 --> 01:19:54,746
STEPHEN: What you have
is a blizzard of sparks.
1563
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:57,053
I think of it as a kind of
incendiary locust.
1564
01:19:57,096 --> 01:20:00,447
And you've got a million of 'em
swarming through this town
1565
01:20:00,491 --> 01:20:02,536
looking for some place
they can burn.
1566
01:20:02,798 --> 01:20:04,582
So if there are points
of vulnerability,
1567
01:20:04,625 --> 01:20:05,757
they are going to find 'em.
1568
01:20:07,150 --> 01:20:09,500
This thing was
a blazing inferno over here.
1569
01:20:11,545 --> 01:20:12,764
I was just sitting on the porch
1570
01:20:12,808 --> 01:20:14,461
smoking a cigarette,
watching it burn.
1571
01:20:14,984 --> 01:20:16,028
Poof.
1572
01:20:17,638 --> 01:20:20,119
I have five-eighths in sheetrock
and a inch of plaster on this.
1573
01:20:20,641 --> 01:20:23,514
These are baked enamel
steel frames.
1574
01:20:24,994 --> 01:20:27,910
And this is high pressure
sensitive glass,
1575
01:20:27,953 --> 01:20:29,737
just not quarter inch plate
1576
01:20:29,781 --> 01:20:33,524
it's three-eighths inch
heat-resisting glass.
1577
01:20:33,567 --> 01:20:35,482
I wasn't worried
about this house one bit.
1578
01:20:36,744 --> 01:20:37,789
There were two houses here.
1579
01:20:37,833 --> 01:20:39,878
This was a pyramid,
giant pyramid.
1580
01:20:40,705 --> 01:20:42,881
The pyramid just went...
[MIMICS COLLAPSING SOUND]
1581
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,798
Over here.
Their dreams went up in smoke.
1582
01:20:48,234 --> 01:20:49,975
This is where the fire
came from.
1583
01:20:50,584 --> 01:20:54,110
You can see how close it came,
nothing to burn,
1584
01:20:54,153 --> 01:20:55,851
so the fire
just went that way.
1585
01:20:56,416 --> 01:20:58,114
Same on the other side.
1586
01:20:59,376 --> 01:21:02,335
These houses were
poorly designed.
1587
01:21:02,683 --> 01:21:07,819
Now let's have a mission house,
let's have a Tuscan villa,
1588
01:21:08,211 --> 01:21:09,865
that's what everybody wants now.
1589
01:21:10,430 --> 01:21:14,391
They forget about the eaves
and the little things
1590
01:21:14,434 --> 01:21:16,567
stick out that make it
a Tuscan villa.
1591
01:21:16,915 --> 01:21:18,090
That's the first thing
that goes.
1592
01:21:19,613 --> 01:21:20,788
It gets right up under the eave
and blows into the attic.
1593
01:21:22,529 --> 01:21:24,357
So that's why
these houses burn.
1594
01:21:25,141 --> 01:21:27,230
Basically, it's stupid houses.
1595
01:21:30,189 --> 01:21:31,756
CHAD: We gotta focus
on the homes.
1596
01:21:32,757 --> 01:21:34,237
Let me give you an example.
1597
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:38,850
The La Tuna Fire of 2017,
this was a fire that was burning
1598
01:21:38,894 --> 01:21:41,374
as intensely as any fire
you can really imagine
1599
01:21:41,418 --> 01:21:44,595
and 1,400 homes
in the fire perimeter,
1600
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:46,249
only five burned.
1601
01:21:46,945 --> 01:21:49,121
Why did only five burn
out of 1,400?
1602
01:21:49,165 --> 01:21:51,602
Reason is is that there were
annual requirements
1603
01:21:51,950 --> 01:21:53,473
to do defensible space.
1604
01:21:53,691 --> 01:21:55,823
Any time someone wants to do
a remodel of their house,
1605
01:21:55,867 --> 01:21:58,000
they say, "Sure, that's fine,
but now you're gonna have to
1606
01:21:58,043 --> 01:22:01,003
bring that old house up to date
with a fire safe code."
1607
01:22:01,873 --> 01:22:04,180
We have over 99 percent
home survival.
1608
01:22:04,223 --> 01:22:06,138
We should all stand up
and take notice of that.
1609
01:22:07,313 --> 01:22:10,447
JODY: In Paradise, in 2008
the Wildland Urban Interface
1610
01:22:10,490 --> 01:22:12,492
design standards
came into being.
1611
01:22:13,145 --> 01:22:15,278
Fifty-one percent
of the structures
1612
01:22:15,321 --> 01:22:17,845
built after 2008 survived.
1613
01:22:18,368 --> 01:22:22,894
Nine percent of the structures
built before 2008 survived.
1614
01:22:23,460 --> 01:22:26,854
And what that tells me is that
those building standards
1615
01:22:26,898 --> 01:22:28,552
make a difference.
1616
01:22:28,595 --> 01:22:30,946
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1617
01:22:34,123 --> 01:22:35,907
BARRY: Thank you mayor
and council members.
1618
01:22:36,821 --> 01:22:39,563
So this evening, we're gonna be
making a presentation
1619
01:22:39,606 --> 01:22:43,480
on recovery projects and ideas
for upgraded building standards.
1620
01:22:43,741 --> 01:22:45,351
We know what happened here.
1621
01:22:45,395 --> 01:22:47,005
Safety has to be
at the forefront
1622
01:22:47,049 --> 01:22:48,528
of every discussion we have.
1623
01:22:48,789 --> 01:22:51,009
The first thing has to do
with roof obstructions.
1624
01:22:51,053 --> 01:22:52,663
This is a pretty simple one.
1625
01:22:52,706 --> 01:22:54,795
It's important, because you do
have debris on your roofs here
1626
01:22:54,839 --> 01:22:58,234
and with embers coming down
they could ignite.
1627
01:22:59,061 --> 01:23:01,541
Gutters, we're saying
that they're prohibited
1628
01:23:01,585 --> 01:23:04,196
except over entries
and to prevent erosion.
1629
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:06,242
And that gives you an awful lot
of flexibility.
1630
01:23:07,025 --> 01:23:09,636
Defensible space
and related to that
1631
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,683
is a five-foot setback
around any structure.
1632
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,208
That 5 feet of fire break
1633
01:23:16,252 --> 01:23:18,819
is the most important area
around your home.
1634
01:23:20,125 --> 01:23:23,215
The council isn't taking
any action tonight.
1635
01:23:23,259 --> 01:23:27,176
We want to hear what you have
to say about these ideas.
1636
01:23:27,915 --> 01:23:30,396
Green, you put on things
you like.[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1637
01:23:30,831 --> 01:23:32,485
Red, you put on things
you don't like.
1638
01:23:32,529 --> 01:23:34,748
It'll help us to know
what you think.
1639
01:23:34,792 --> 01:23:35,880
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1640
01:23:40,928 --> 01:23:43,279
JIM:
1641
01:23:43,583 --> 01:23:45,498
Well, I am a believer
in the first five feet.
1642
01:23:46,108 --> 01:23:50,286
That is what research has shown
to be one of the most,
1643
01:23:50,329 --> 01:23:55,073
if not the most critical factor
in whether a home burns or not.
1644
01:24:10,915 --> 01:24:12,221
All right. All right.
1645
01:24:12,569 --> 01:24:14,266
FEMALE VOICE:
1646
01:24:18,314 --> 01:24:19,837
I thought that would be popular,
1647
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,666
because leaves do stick up there
in the gutters.
1648
01:24:22,709 --> 01:24:24,885
They are a fire hazard
and it costs nothing
1649
01:24:24,929 --> 01:24:26,496
not to have them.
1650
01:24:26,539 --> 01:24:28,063
LUCY: It was less than a year
before this
1651
01:24:28,106 --> 01:24:30,195
when 85 people were killed
in this town
1652
01:24:30,804 --> 01:24:33,633
and there's already been that
other fire that killed 16.
1653
01:24:34,112 --> 01:24:35,983
And there'll be more
fires soon.
1654
01:24:37,202 --> 01:24:40,901
But the proven safety measures,
they were not proving popular.
1655
01:24:42,207 --> 01:24:46,168
This town is going to be
so fucking expensive
1656
01:24:46,211 --> 01:24:48,083
to live in when this is done.
1657
01:24:48,344 --> 01:24:50,737
You're not gonna be able
to build anything here
1658
01:24:50,781 --> 01:24:52,913
that'll cost less than
half a million dollars.
1659
01:24:53,175 --> 01:24:54,132
You're in the forest.
1660
01:24:55,829 --> 01:24:57,483
If the forest catches on fire,
my ass is sorry you're burning.
1661
01:24:58,005 --> 01:25:01,096
[WHIRRING]
1662
01:25:04,447 --> 01:25:05,796
BRAD: You want a cookie?
1663
01:25:05,839 --> 01:25:07,885
Always good, ma.
Here you go. Bite.
1664
01:25:09,321 --> 01:25:10,975
That'll make you feel better
in a little bit, Mama.
1665
01:25:11,497 --> 01:25:13,108
Okay.All right.
1666
01:25:13,586 --> 01:25:16,023
The pot cookies and stuff
they help you better
1667
01:25:16,067 --> 01:25:18,504
than anything, huh?That's right.
1668
01:25:18,852 --> 01:25:22,900
He was gonna put me on
some kind of a pill
1669
01:25:23,379 --> 01:25:27,339
and I says, "Doctor Alfteen,
you know I don't take those."
1670
01:25:28,340 --> 01:25:31,822
He says, "Well, have you ever
tried marijuana?"
1671
01:25:32,214 --> 01:25:34,999
He says, "You know,
it might do you some good."
1672
01:25:35,826 --> 01:25:39,090
When I told Brad that
Brad had made sure
1673
01:25:39,134 --> 01:25:41,223
I got started on marijuana.
1674
01:25:41,745 --> 01:25:44,530
And it worked.Oh my, yes.
1675
01:25:50,841 --> 01:25:53,148
LUCY: There's a piece of trivia
about Paradise.
1676
01:25:53,887 --> 01:25:56,847
It is the largest municipality
without a sewer
1677
01:25:58,109 --> 01:26:00,894
and I've been wondering
will we ever get it together
1678
01:26:00,938 --> 01:26:03,419
to deal with our own crap?[SIREN BLARING]
1679
01:26:04,333 --> 01:26:08,163
ZEKE: It' just like kinda
Western anarchy that reaches
1680
01:26:08,206 --> 01:26:11,166
a scale of complexity
where the system
no longer works.
1681
01:26:11,862 --> 01:26:13,690
Paradise strong![TRUCK ENGINE REVVING]
1682
01:26:13,733 --> 01:26:16,083
[TRUCK HORN HONKING][INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1683
01:26:16,127 --> 01:26:17,520
TRINA: It was the gold rush
1684
01:26:17,998 --> 01:26:19,826
and the mining
and extraction eras.
1685
01:26:20,610 --> 01:26:23,047
A lot of the economy
of California was built on that
1686
01:26:23,090 --> 01:26:26,050
grab and go. Get as much
as we can and then get out.
1687
01:26:27,878 --> 01:26:29,662
STEPHEN: We know
how to keep houses from burning.
1688
01:26:29,706 --> 01:26:31,186
We solved the urban fires.[CROWD CHEERING]
1689
01:26:31,577 --> 01:26:33,492
STEPHEN: Yeah, you can do
everything for your house,
1690
01:26:33,536 --> 01:26:35,277
but if your neighbors
don't do it for theirs,
1691
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:36,539
you're still at risk.
1692
01:26:38,062 --> 01:26:40,673
Kind of a libertarian contract
that Americans think
1693
01:26:40,717 --> 01:26:42,849
they would prefer
if it breaks down.
1694
01:26:43,894 --> 01:26:47,114
Fire is that other contagion,
wearing masks is like
1695
01:26:47,158 --> 01:26:50,466
controlling embers,
aerosol dispersion,
1696
01:26:50,509 --> 01:26:53,295
defensible space, well,
it's social distancing.
1697
01:26:53,338 --> 01:26:55,645
The difference is that
we don't have a vaccine
1698
01:26:55,688 --> 01:26:57,212
that will eliminate fire.
1699
01:26:57,516 --> 01:27:00,215
Herd immunity comes
at a community level
1700
01:27:00,258 --> 01:27:03,479
when you have enough people
to provide protection.
1701
01:27:05,176 --> 01:27:06,960
[CROWD SCREAMING]
1702
01:27:07,004 --> 01:27:09,180
MALE VOICE: I totally understand
why people want to rebuild
1703
01:27:09,572 --> 01:27:11,051
but I just have this sense
of dread
1704
01:27:11,661 --> 01:27:13,271
that they're gonna
lose it again.
1705
01:27:13,315 --> 01:27:16,361
This hesitancy to tell people
who are in crisis that
1706
01:27:16,405 --> 01:27:18,145
we're gonna put some obstacles
in your way.
1707
01:27:18,929 --> 01:27:21,758
It's not really doing people
any favors in the long run.
1708
01:27:23,368 --> 01:27:25,457
LUCY: Maybe because I grew up
in Europe,
1709
01:27:25,762 --> 01:27:30,070
ideas like American liberty
at all costs, manifest destiny,
1710
01:27:30,114 --> 01:27:31,681
self-immolation under the mantra
1711
01:27:31,724 --> 01:27:35,902
of personal freedom seem
insurmountably foreign to me.
1712
01:27:39,123 --> 01:27:40,255
[GUNSHOTS]
1713
01:27:42,518 --> 01:27:44,433
[BUZZING]
1714
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,226
BRAD: Get out the way
when that happens.
1715
01:27:56,271 --> 01:27:58,273
Got Mom's 90th birthday today.
1716
01:27:58,316 --> 01:27:59,665
Smile, Mama.
1717
01:28:00,797 --> 01:28:02,189
You look so pretty.
1718
01:28:02,233 --> 01:28:04,104
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1719
01:28:04,366 --> 01:28:06,846
MIC: The drinks are flowing.Ah.
1720
01:28:06,890 --> 01:28:09,284
The music's rolling inside
and out.
1721
01:28:09,327 --> 01:28:10,546
Oh good.
1722
01:28:11,590 --> 01:28:14,463
Everything's good, Mom.Wonderful.
1723
01:28:15,028 --> 01:28:16,552
Usually when she doesn't know
what she wants.
1724
01:28:16,595 --> 01:28:17,727
She wants a cookie.
1725
01:28:18,467 --> 01:28:20,077
Just give her half of one.
1726
01:28:21,296 --> 01:28:22,514
She said she was uncomfortable.
1727
01:28:22,775 --> 01:28:24,386
Well, that'll help, yeah.
1728
01:28:24,429 --> 01:28:26,039
RO: You know,
it's a day by day thing
1729
01:28:26,083 --> 01:28:27,606
and some days
are better than others.
1730
01:28:27,650 --> 01:28:28,999
But you know,
when we have something
1731
01:28:29,042 --> 01:28:30,609
to look forward to like
Mom turning 90.
1732
01:28:31,175 --> 01:28:32,524
FEMALE VOICE:
Happy birthday, Nan.
1733
01:28:32,568 --> 01:28:34,352
Hey, thank you, sweetheart.
1734
01:28:34,396 --> 01:28:35,614
All right, last bite.
1735
01:28:37,137 --> 01:28:39,618
I was all, "You already got
your cookie for the day,"
1736
01:28:39,662 --> 01:28:42,012
she's like, "I hope that wasn't
the last one for the day."
1737
01:28:42,055 --> 01:28:44,536
I'm like, "It wasn't."Geez, Ma.
1738
01:28:45,363 --> 01:28:48,148
Should I have a shot for you?Go ahead.
1739
01:28:50,368 --> 01:28:51,804
My house burned, of course.
1740
01:28:52,196 --> 01:28:55,112
Now I live here at Bradopolis.
1741
01:28:55,808 --> 01:28:58,115
[CHUCKLES] Yeah, I got trailer
through insurance.
1742
01:29:01,988 --> 01:29:03,468
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1743
01:29:03,947 --> 01:29:05,252
You don't regret any of it,
do you?
1744
01:29:05,296 --> 01:29:07,429
NORMA: No.Right on, Mama.
1745
01:29:07,777 --> 01:29:09,213
You know,
I love talking to you, Ma.
1746
01:29:10,301 --> 01:29:11,346
Up you go.
1747
01:29:12,956 --> 01:29:16,089
I have had three cookies.
1748
01:29:16,481 --> 01:29:18,918
Are you okay?Oh yeah.
1749
01:29:19,266 --> 01:29:21,834
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1750
01:29:33,498 --> 01:29:35,065
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1751
01:29:36,849 --> 01:29:38,808
JODY: Welcome to the meeting
of the Paradise Town Council.
1752
01:29:39,374 --> 01:29:41,201
It's great to see
all of you here.
1753
01:29:41,767 --> 01:29:43,508
I think you're all here for
1754
01:29:43,552 --> 01:29:46,163
that's the building code
changes.
1755
01:29:47,207 --> 01:29:51,298
We intend to vote on each
potential change individually
1756
01:29:51,734 --> 01:29:54,476
And we're first gonna start
with public comment.
1757
01:29:57,043 --> 01:29:58,436
A lot of these things
are taking away
1758
01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:00,438
from individuality
of the town.
1759
01:30:00,482 --> 01:30:02,484
You're telling me
if I can't have bark,
1760
01:30:02,527 --> 01:30:06,401
and some plants,
and rose plants around my house.
1761
01:30:06,749 --> 01:30:08,620
I think I understand now
what you want.
1762
01:30:08,664 --> 01:30:09,882
I was thinking about it.
1763
01:30:09,926 --> 01:30:11,710
We could all buy
a hot water heater
1764
01:30:11,754 --> 01:30:13,016
and cut a door in it
1765
01:30:13,059 --> 01:30:15,540
and we'd have
an insulated fireproof house.
1766
01:30:15,932 --> 01:30:18,891
FEMALE VOICE: The new homes
will already be more fire-safe
than before.
1767
01:30:19,326 --> 01:30:22,808
I didn't hear people begging
for higher building codes.
1768
01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:26,072
Please let people return
and build the homes
they want to build.
1769
01:30:26,116 --> 01:30:28,640
A majority of people,
I have dealt with
1770
01:30:28,945 --> 01:30:31,904
are under insured
if insured at all.
1771
01:30:32,688 --> 01:30:33,950
You have a lot of people
1772
01:30:33,993 --> 01:30:36,169
who may not be able
to come back.
1773
01:30:36,953 --> 01:30:41,174
That would reduce this town's
property tax revenue
1774
01:30:41,653 --> 01:30:43,481
by a tremendous amount.
1775
01:30:43,525 --> 01:30:45,831
That would affect
your police department,
1776
01:30:45,875 --> 01:30:48,443
your fire department,
and your schools.
1777
01:30:49,792 --> 01:30:52,577
FEMALE VOICE 2: Paradise
is an individualistic town
1778
01:30:52,838 --> 01:30:55,188
that's part of the charm
and the quirkiness
1779
01:30:55,232 --> 01:30:58,104
and we don't need
consistency or uniformity.
1780
01:30:58,453 --> 01:31:00,933
FEMALE VOICE 3: So shame on you
and don't price out
1781
01:31:00,977 --> 01:31:03,501
a large percentage
of us Paradise residents
1782
01:31:03,545 --> 01:31:05,634
who love the ridge
and we want to come home.
1783
01:31:05,895 --> 01:31:08,071
We don't need to be
some kind of experiment
1784
01:31:08,114 --> 01:31:10,203
for the rest of the world.
Let people come home.
1785
01:31:10,247 --> 01:31:12,858
'Cause if people come home,
we all didn't go away.
1786
01:31:13,119 --> 01:31:17,820
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
1787
01:31:18,081 --> 01:31:21,388
And we that, we're gonna move
onto the presentation.
1788
01:31:23,129 --> 01:31:25,044
Good evening, council members
and mayor.
1789
01:31:25,480 --> 01:31:28,221
I think it's important
as we report, you remember
1790
01:31:28,265 --> 01:31:31,181
that how homes were destroyed
and why homes were destroyed.
1791
01:31:31,790 --> 01:31:34,401
We're gonna show a short video
of what we experienced that day.
1792
01:31:36,229 --> 01:31:38,754
As you watch if you can see
how important
1793
01:31:38,797 --> 01:31:42,409
some of the safety factors
that will be discussed tonight,
1794
01:31:42,453 --> 01:31:44,455
how important they are
on survivability
1795
01:31:44,499 --> 01:31:45,500
of the structure.
1796
01:31:46,892 --> 01:31:48,590
So for those of you that said
that's unrealistic,
1797
01:31:48,633 --> 01:31:51,462
because it's in a laboratory,
I have a quick clip
1798
01:31:51,506 --> 01:31:52,768
from one of our employees.
1799
01:31:52,811 --> 01:31:54,726
This is in Paradise at 9:45
in the morning.
1800
01:31:57,294 --> 01:31:59,644
I had wanted to make sure that
it's fresh in everybody's mind
1801
01:31:59,688 --> 01:32:02,429
exactly what took place
and there has to be
1802
01:32:02,734 --> 01:32:05,868
a little bit of responsibility
of that resident making
1803
01:32:05,911 --> 01:32:09,567
their structure safe
for themselves, their neighbor,
1804
01:32:09,872 --> 01:32:11,047
and the community.
1805
01:32:12,483 --> 01:32:16,574
Some of this has to go back
on you and I.
1806
01:32:16,618 --> 01:32:18,794
You can't say,
I'm gonna move to the foothills,
1807
01:32:18,837 --> 01:32:20,622
where there's trees, brush,
and grass
1808
01:32:21,013 --> 01:32:23,276
and not know there's a potential
for wildfire.
1809
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,235
You just-- And not know
that you're gonna have to do
1810
01:32:25,278 --> 01:32:27,759
something that increase
the likelihood of you
1811
01:32:27,803 --> 01:32:30,849
and your structure surviving
if one breaks out.
1812
01:32:31,110 --> 01:32:32,938
If your home doesn't burn down
and your neighbor's home
1813
01:32:32,982 --> 01:32:34,592
doesn't burn down,
their neighbor home
1814
01:32:34,636 --> 01:32:37,160
doesn't burn down,
evacuation route stays open,
1815
01:32:37,203 --> 01:32:38,640
you can get out of town faster.
1816
01:32:39,031 --> 01:32:40,685
You know,
there's a compound in effect
1817
01:32:40,729 --> 01:32:43,601
to good development standards.
1818
01:32:44,646 --> 01:32:45,734
Any questions?
1819
01:32:46,517 --> 01:32:49,955
If we could do only one thing
1820
01:32:50,347 --> 01:32:52,610
to be more fire safe,
1821
01:32:52,654 --> 01:32:54,656
what would
your recommendation be?
1822
01:32:55,308 --> 01:32:57,659
That five-foot area
around your house
1823
01:32:57,702 --> 01:32:58,747
is extremely important.
1824
01:33:00,139 --> 01:33:01,619
That would be the number thing
out of all of this
1825
01:33:01,663 --> 01:33:03,969
that I would say that would
defend your home the best
1826
01:33:04,013 --> 01:33:05,580
and have the most impact.
1827
01:33:06,145 --> 01:33:07,407
FEMALE VOICE:
Thank you very much.
1828
01:33:08,060 --> 01:33:10,628
And now,
we'll move to item number one.
1829
01:33:10,672 --> 01:33:13,109
Interior sprinklers required
in all homes.
1830
01:33:13,762 --> 01:33:15,590
Crowder?No.
1831
01:33:15,633 --> 01:33:16,982
FEMALE VOICE: Schuster?No.
1832
01:33:17,026 --> 01:33:18,375
FEMALE VOICE: Zuccolillo?No.
1833
01:33:18,636 --> 01:33:20,595
FEMALE VOICE: And Mayor Jones?No.
1834
01:33:20,986 --> 01:33:22,988
FEMALE VOICE: Roof obstruction
shall not allow
1835
01:33:23,032 --> 01:33:24,642
for the collection of debris.
1836
01:33:24,686 --> 01:33:26,252
Does anyone want that one?
1837
01:33:26,601 --> 01:33:28,646
That one is no also.
1838
01:33:28,690 --> 01:33:33,477
Minimum 10-inch roof overhang
required, direction is also no.
1839
01:33:34,130 --> 01:33:38,700
Garage or storage shed required.
So that one is a no also.
1840
01:33:39,222 --> 01:33:41,703
LUCY: It was illuminating
to be there in the front row.
1841
01:33:41,746 --> 01:33:43,574
That's me in the white jacket.
1842
01:33:43,922 --> 01:33:45,794
What a civics lesson.
1843
01:33:45,837 --> 01:33:49,275
If this is a process for making
change to keep us all alive,
1844
01:33:49,536 --> 01:33:50,973
I think we're in trouble.
1845
01:33:51,016 --> 01:33:53,410
Because these are the proposals
that the council members
1846
01:33:53,453 --> 01:33:55,586
had told me they thought
would save lives.
1847
01:33:55,630 --> 01:33:58,850
And here they are voting
them down one by one.
1848
01:33:59,111 --> 01:34:01,157
This is how hard it is
to make a change.
1849
01:34:02,114 --> 01:34:04,639
And here comes the most
important proposal,
1850
01:34:05,248 --> 01:34:07,859
five feet of defensible space
around the home.
1851
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:10,079
JODY: So this is a different way
of looking
1852
01:34:10,514 --> 01:34:12,559
at what our houses
would look like.
1853
01:34:12,908 --> 01:34:15,388
It's not the way we were raised
1854
01:34:15,432 --> 01:34:18,348
or the way we saw
our houses before,
1855
01:34:18,870 --> 01:34:22,874
but it's another one that
doesn't cost extra money
1856
01:34:22,918 --> 01:34:25,355
and makes
a huge, huge difference.
1857
01:34:25,703 --> 01:34:27,705
FEMALE VOICE: Roll call vote.
Vice mayor Bolin?
1858
01:34:27,749 --> 01:34:28,837
GREG: Aye
1859
01:34:29,098 --> 01:34:30,273
FEMALE VOICE:
Council member Crowder?
1860
01:34:31,709 --> 01:34:36,366
I would like to see
some sort of greenery allowed.
1861
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:38,716
STEVE: You have people
who go around and know
1862
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,023
a fire-resistant plant
from a non-fire resistant plant.
1863
01:34:41,066 --> 01:34:42,546
It's--MALE VOICE:
1864
01:34:42,589 --> 01:34:44,417
STEVE: I just don't know
that that's possible.
1865
01:34:44,766 --> 01:34:46,158
I don't get it.
1866
01:34:46,202 --> 01:34:47,986
JOHN: Remember,
non-combustible doesn't mean
1867
01:34:48,030 --> 01:34:49,509
you can't have green grass.
1868
01:34:49,553 --> 01:34:51,686
You just have
non-combustible material
1869
01:34:51,729 --> 01:34:53,470
up against your house
within five feet.
1870
01:34:53,513 --> 01:34:54,906
That's the concept behind it.
1871
01:34:59,171 --> 01:35:01,217
Well, I agree
with the majority of it,
1872
01:35:01,260 --> 01:35:06,091
but I'm thinking
there's gonna be
1873
01:35:06,918 --> 01:35:10,705
issues and there's gonna be
enforcement issues with the--
1874
01:35:10,748 --> 01:35:12,184
with the plants.
1875
01:35:12,228 --> 01:35:15,535
So I'm gonna say no.
1876
01:35:15,797 --> 01:35:17,494
FEMALE VOICE:
Council member Schuster?
1877
01:35:18,147 --> 01:35:21,106
I have to say no as proposed.
1878
01:35:21,585 --> 01:35:22,934
FEMALE VOICE:
Council member Zuccolillo?
1879
01:35:22,978 --> 01:35:24,501
MIKE: I don't know think
we have the plant police,
1880
01:35:24,849 --> 01:35:27,156
going around and you know,
measuring people's plants
1881
01:35:27,199 --> 01:35:29,985
off their buildings.
In its current form, I'd say no.
1882
01:35:30,420 --> 01:35:33,075
JODY: Okay. It fails.[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
1883
01:35:33,815 --> 01:35:36,034
Thank you all
for all of your input.
1884
01:35:36,426 --> 01:35:38,558
Have a good evening.
We're adjourned.
1885
01:35:38,602 --> 01:35:40,735
[AUDIENCE APPLAUDING]
1886
01:35:41,170 --> 01:35:43,694
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1887
01:35:48,264 --> 01:35:50,222
LUCY: So this is
what the fires reveal.
1888
01:35:51,354 --> 01:35:54,836
Just as with climate change,
we know what the problems are,
1889
01:35:55,575 --> 01:35:57,621
we know what the solutions are,
1890
01:35:58,274 --> 01:36:00,972
but we're not getting it
together to implement them.
1891
01:36:03,148 --> 01:36:05,237
MIKE:
Fire is a natural light force.
1892
01:36:06,064 --> 01:36:08,806
But the mass fires,
the fire storms that we've seen,
1893
01:36:08,850 --> 01:36:09,938
they changed this.
1894
01:36:11,330 --> 01:36:12,679
We're headed off in a direction
we don't understand.
1895
01:36:12,941 --> 01:36:14,856
We're like passengers
on a runaway train
1896
01:36:14,899 --> 01:36:16,031
who doesn't know
where the tracks
1897
01:36:16,074 --> 01:36:17,597
actually lay ahead.
1898
01:36:20,513 --> 01:36:23,821
LUCY: In the Christian
imagination, hell is fire pits.
1899
01:36:23,865 --> 01:36:25,431
It's being burned alive.
1900
01:36:26,128 --> 01:36:29,174
These are the very worst things
we could imagine.
1901
01:36:29,871 --> 01:36:31,873
When we came up with the idea
of hell,
1902
01:36:31,916 --> 01:36:33,962
it was fire that we imagined
1903
01:36:34,701 --> 01:36:36,791
and that's what we're creating
for ourselves.
1904
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:40,795
And of course,
it's the vulnerable
1905
01:36:40,838 --> 01:36:42,100
who suffer the most.
1906
01:36:44,537 --> 01:36:46,017
LUCY: So tell us about
this structure here?
1907
01:36:46,061 --> 01:36:47,889
What is this?This is my home
1908
01:36:48,498 --> 01:36:51,196
I started building this
four days after the fire--
1909
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:52,545
five days after the fire.
1910
01:36:54,765 --> 01:36:58,464
LUCY: Even in Malibu,
people are homeless and hurting.
1911
01:36:59,814 --> 01:37:02,991
I don't even remember
much of the last few months.
1912
01:37:03,034 --> 01:37:04,775
LUCY: Do you-- How's it been?And it's--
1913
01:37:04,819 --> 01:37:06,472
A blur, really.
1914
01:37:07,212 --> 01:37:10,607
I've got what I was able to save
packed in the truck.
1915
01:37:11,390 --> 01:37:13,088
It's a broken shelter.
[CHUCKLES]
1916
01:37:14,263 --> 01:37:15,699
It gets cold.
1917
01:37:16,656 --> 01:37:19,572
There are drafts
in certain places.
1918
01:37:21,226 --> 01:37:25,013
So I'm just not set up
and I don't wanna be a burden.
1919
01:37:30,714 --> 01:37:34,239
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1920
01:37:38,287 --> 01:37:41,029
MAEVE: Firefighting
is definitely not
for the faint of the heart.
1921
01:37:42,508 --> 01:37:44,859
We do see a lot of fatalities,
we see a lot of injuries.
1922
01:37:44,902 --> 01:37:47,557
We see a lot of terrible things
in this job.
1923
01:37:48,036 --> 01:37:49,733
It's pretty hard
to just come home,
1924
01:37:49,776 --> 01:37:52,214
pretend none of that happened.
1925
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,394
My husband's a firefighter
like me
1926
01:37:58,437 --> 01:38:01,876
and we separated, because
of the stress of our jobs.
1927
01:38:02,398 --> 01:38:04,487
I was surviving on
two to three hours
1928
01:38:04,530 --> 01:38:07,142
of sleep a nights
for a year and a half.
1929
01:38:08,186 --> 01:38:10,710
I felt like there was
a pretty significant period
1930
01:38:10,754 --> 01:38:14,062
of time where I lost my mind
just trying to hold it together.
1931
01:38:17,021 --> 01:38:18,153
JOHN: We're away
from our families
1932
01:38:18,196 --> 01:38:19,371
all summer long.
1933
01:38:20,982 --> 01:38:23,071
There's never a break,
there's no end in sight.
1934
01:38:24,637 --> 01:38:27,597
Work 50, 60, 70 days,
get a day off
1935
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:28,685
and go right back on.
1936
01:38:28,728 --> 01:38:30,600
The problem
isn't going right back on,
1937
01:38:30,643 --> 01:38:32,950
it's,
"I might go another 70 days."
1938
01:38:36,084 --> 01:38:39,087
FRANK: They retired me out
post-traumatic stress disorder.
1939
01:38:39,391 --> 01:38:41,002
Three little kids are just
sitting there...
1940
01:38:42,438 --> 01:38:43,656
and...
1941
01:38:45,006 --> 01:38:48,661
yeah, after that
it was the next shift
1942
01:38:48,705 --> 01:38:50,489
I was coming in for,
I couldn't wake up.
1943
01:38:51,055 --> 01:38:52,448
I guess my body
was just telling me,
1944
01:38:52,491 --> 01:38:53,971
just, "I don't wanna go
to work."
1945
01:38:54,276 --> 01:38:57,235
So I came, I said,
"I don't feel right,
1946
01:38:57,279 --> 01:38:58,584
I just don't feel right."
1947
01:39:01,674 --> 01:39:05,765
MALE VOICE: We don't talk
so much about the PTSD
and the suicides
1948
01:39:06,070 --> 01:39:09,030
that causes the firefighters
to take their lives.
1949
01:39:10,031 --> 01:39:11,946
FIREFIGHTER: And I told my wife
the other day, I go,
1950
01:39:11,989 --> 01:39:13,991
"I feel like my brain's
not firing right."
1951
01:39:14,035 --> 01:39:17,168
Our brains are just done.
We're just mentally exhausted.
1952
01:39:19,388 --> 01:39:20,519
FIREFIGHTER 2: The problem is
the ones
1953
01:39:20,563 --> 01:39:21,956
that are really hurting the most
1954
01:39:22,260 --> 01:39:24,871
often don't say so
and then they do something,
1955
01:39:25,089 --> 01:39:26,221
it's too late.
1956
01:39:27,613 --> 01:39:29,964
"Hey man, are you thinking
about doing yourself?"
1957
01:39:30,965 --> 01:39:32,096
"Yeah, I am."
1958
01:39:33,445 --> 01:39:34,881
I've probably had that
six times. "Yeah, I am."
1959
01:39:35,317 --> 01:39:37,623
"How about if I help you?
Can I help you?"
1960
01:39:38,581 --> 01:39:41,192
Not one of those six
did themselves.
1961
01:39:42,367 --> 01:39:43,673
JASON: It's a long
emotional road
1962
01:39:44,065 --> 01:39:46,850
and every day I talk to people
1963
01:39:46,893 --> 01:39:51,942
who are very much struggling
emotionally with each day.
1964
01:39:54,423 --> 01:39:57,426
JIM: One of my goals was never
ever to seriously injure
1965
01:39:57,469 --> 01:39:58,993
or kill a firefighter
in the line of duty
1966
01:39:59,036 --> 01:40:01,038
and unfortunately,
I failed on that note.
1967
01:40:02,126 --> 01:40:05,390
Fire killed five United States
Forest Service firefighters
1968
01:40:05,434 --> 01:40:07,349
at a home
that they were defending.
1969
01:40:08,959 --> 01:40:11,222
Yeah,
that's just one of several.
1970
01:40:12,745 --> 01:40:15,966
FIREFIGHTER 2:
One of our firefighters
Cory Iverson was caught.
1971
01:40:16,445 --> 01:40:19,361
His strike team leader
Mark Barb ran through
1972
01:40:19,404 --> 01:40:21,406
the burning flames
and through the brush.
1973
01:40:21,450 --> 01:40:25,497
Cory was already dead,
but Mark fell on him
1974
01:40:25,802 --> 01:40:27,586
and covered him with his body,
1975
01:40:28,065 --> 01:40:30,111
so that Cory
didn't burn anymore.
1976
01:40:30,676 --> 01:40:33,331
That's a reason I wanna protect
our firefighters.
1977
01:40:33,375 --> 01:40:36,421
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1978
01:40:39,424 --> 01:40:41,035
[DOGS BARKING]
1979
01:40:44,821 --> 01:40:48,694
BRAD: Well, she'd been praying
every night that she would die.
1980
01:40:49,173 --> 01:40:51,219
That "Come take me",
she was ready.
1981
01:40:51,567 --> 01:40:54,135
And she passed,
took her last breath.
1982
01:40:54,483 --> 01:40:55,571
So she was home.
1983
01:40:56,963 --> 01:40:59,096
We have a little tradition,
I'm putting fruit trees
1984
01:40:59,140 --> 01:41:00,445
all the way around the property.
1985
01:41:01,316 --> 01:41:06,625
And a handful of ashes
from my mom and my wife
1986
01:41:06,669 --> 01:41:09,585
will go in each tree
all the way around.
1987
01:41:09,976 --> 01:41:11,848
My mother would join the rest
of the angels,
1988
01:41:11,891 --> 01:41:14,024
protecting the house
most definitely.
1989
01:41:14,416 --> 01:41:16,287
They're our loved ones,
they all will stay.
1990
01:41:22,032 --> 01:41:23,903
Better put this thing
right on outback.
1991
01:41:32,434 --> 01:41:34,958
[MAN SINGING
IN NATIVE AMERICAN LANGUAGE]
1992
01:41:51,627 --> 01:41:55,631
DON: On November 8th,
when I saw the fire itself,
1993
01:41:56,197 --> 01:41:58,112
I stopped on the side
of the road and watched it.
1994
01:41:59,504 --> 01:42:02,028
It reminded me
of the first fire stories.
1995
01:42:04,683 --> 01:42:08,165
The first fire story
is a story of fire
1996
01:42:08,209 --> 01:42:10,036
that sweeps across
the landscape.
1997
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:12,169
It's the one that destroys
everything,
1998
01:42:13,257 --> 01:42:15,955
then you have nothing left,
you're devastated.
1999
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:19,220
And I thought
our society is experiencing
2000
01:42:19,263 --> 01:42:22,440
the first fire stories that
indigenous peoples know about
2001
01:42:23,354 --> 01:42:25,443
and then learn to use fire.
2002
01:42:25,704 --> 01:42:30,492
And so we as a society need
to learn that lesson ourselves
2003
01:42:30,796 --> 01:42:32,711
to come back to the second
fire stories
2004
01:42:32,755 --> 01:42:34,365
which tell us
how to use fire.
2005
01:42:34,670 --> 01:42:38,413
This is old land, been in use
for thousands
2006
01:42:38,456 --> 01:42:39,849
and thousands of years.
2007
01:42:40,589 --> 01:42:44,723
What we're doing out here
is restoring life.
2008
01:42:45,159 --> 01:42:47,117
RON: We call this
"cultural burning".
2009
01:42:47,161 --> 01:42:52,470
Cultural means to cultivate,
so when we're using fire,
2010
01:42:52,514 --> 01:42:57,083
it's a tool that we're using
to restore the land.
2011
01:42:57,997 --> 01:43:00,739
DON: One of the reasons
why indigenous people burn
2012
01:43:00,783 --> 01:43:02,741
historically, was to protect
their village areas.
2013
01:43:03,220 --> 01:43:05,527
Burn around 'em, because
almost all the structures
2014
01:43:05,570 --> 01:43:06,615
were made out of the wood.
2015
01:43:08,530 --> 01:43:09,792
So by burning the area
was to protect
around those things.
2016
01:43:12,142 --> 01:43:14,188
RON: After we burn,
that nutrient
2017
01:43:14,884 --> 01:43:16,625
will bring new life back.
2018
01:43:21,369 --> 01:43:24,241
A lot of people had this concept
that this was a wilderness
2019
01:43:24,285 --> 01:43:26,678
that was purely untouched.
2020
01:43:26,722 --> 01:43:28,985
But in fact it was
highly manipulated.
2021
01:43:30,378 --> 01:43:32,771
LUCY: Was I wrong
to want the fires put out?
2022
01:43:33,250 --> 01:43:37,123
I realized I was one
in a long line of Europeans
2023
01:43:37,167 --> 01:43:41,084
who'd landed in California
and misunderstood the place.
2024
01:43:41,519 --> 01:43:44,218
ZEKE: The real roots
of our forestry and fire crises
2025
01:43:44,261 --> 01:43:46,611
are in idea of white supremacy.
2026
01:43:46,872 --> 01:43:49,614
You know, our European ancestors
when they encountered
2027
01:43:49,658 --> 01:43:51,486
the native people
they couldn't imagine
2028
01:43:51,529 --> 01:43:53,749
that these people
they were meeting might have
2029
01:43:53,792 --> 01:43:56,621
advanced scientific knowledge
of how to manage the landscape
2030
01:43:56,665 --> 01:43:59,407
that was based on thousands
of years of experimentation
2031
01:43:59,450 --> 01:44:00,495
and observation.
2032
01:44:02,018 --> 01:44:03,933
The native people who lived here
rely directly on the land
2033
01:44:03,976 --> 01:44:05,804
for everything
about their lives.
2034
01:44:06,414 --> 01:44:09,330
There were management objectives
that they achieved using fire.
2035
01:44:09,808 --> 01:44:14,291
Like more acorns or let's move
the branches up higher on trees,
2036
01:44:14,335 --> 01:44:16,162
so we can see people
sneaking up to kill us.
2037
01:44:18,295 --> 01:44:20,079
TRINA: I told my grandpa
what I was doing
2038
01:44:20,123 --> 01:44:21,559
a few years ago and he said,
2039
01:44:21,603 --> 01:44:23,822
"Oh, you're trying to do
what I was trying to do."
2040
01:44:24,083 --> 01:44:28,218
Forest thinning and work
with other tribes
and other communities
2041
01:44:28,566 --> 01:44:30,264
and it's generation
after generation
2042
01:44:30,525 --> 01:44:32,657
of tribal knowledge
being available,
2043
01:44:32,701 --> 01:44:35,747
but the larger society
not willing to look at that
2044
01:44:35,791 --> 01:44:37,053
as a viable answer.
2045
01:44:38,489 --> 01:44:40,274
The fire can be our friend
or it can be our enemy.
2046
01:44:41,362 --> 01:44:44,147
And we need people,
fire has always been our friend.
2047
01:44:44,190 --> 01:44:47,324
[MAN SINGING
IN NATIVE AMERICAN LANGUAGE]
2048
01:44:47,368 --> 01:44:50,806
[MUSIC PLAYING]
2049
01:44:54,113 --> 01:44:55,680
BRIANNA: We got stripped
of our natural right
2050
01:44:56,115 --> 01:44:57,334
to be able to burn
2051
01:44:58,901 --> 01:45:00,337
and now it's getting harder
to teach the next generation
2052
01:45:00,381 --> 01:45:02,296
what a good burn is,
not to be afraid of fire.
2053
01:45:05,473 --> 01:45:09,085
Burning this feels so natural
and it's like I had this fire
2054
01:45:09,128 --> 01:45:11,000
inside of me
also that was dormant
2055
01:45:11,043 --> 01:45:15,265
for such a long time,
got laid down, got put out
2056
01:45:15,309 --> 01:45:17,006
and now I'm that
I'm putting fire back on,
2057
01:45:17,049 --> 01:45:19,356
it's also like reigniting
the fire
2058
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:20,792
that I had inside myself.
2059
01:45:22,577 --> 01:45:25,057
DANNY: It's really the only way
that you could really manage
2060
01:45:25,101 --> 01:45:26,581
big areas.
2061
01:45:26,624 --> 01:45:31,063
There's only so much thinning
and piling, fuel breaks,
2062
01:45:31,107 --> 01:45:33,588
and stuff we could do
when you know fire
2063
01:45:33,631 --> 01:45:38,680
is the most cost effective
and easiest way of doing it
2064
01:45:38,723 --> 01:45:40,159
with the least amount
of resources
2065
01:45:44,686 --> 01:45:47,166
TRINA: It's actually harder
to get a fire started
2066
01:45:47,210 --> 01:45:48,864
than people might think.
2067
01:45:50,909 --> 01:45:52,171
Add a little wind.
2068
01:45:53,782 --> 01:45:55,261
Today's a really good day
for burn conditions,
2069
01:45:55,566 --> 01:45:58,526
because of higher humidity,
lower temperatures,
2070
01:45:58,569 --> 01:46:01,833
and this area
isn't heavily fueled.
2071
01:46:04,183 --> 01:46:06,447
This is what
we're talking about,
a low intensity fire.
2072
01:46:06,490 --> 01:46:08,231
Very, very short flame lengths.
2073
01:46:09,537 --> 01:46:12,235
So if you can imagine
back a long time ago,
2074
01:46:12,278 --> 01:46:13,628
this would just be
a family thing
2075
01:46:13,671 --> 01:46:15,194
and it was kind of
in our family,
2076
01:46:15,238 --> 01:46:17,588
where we would just spend
a good part of the day
2077
01:46:17,632 --> 01:46:19,895
just doing this, standing
around talking, visiting.
2078
01:46:20,983 --> 01:46:23,202
And it just brings itself out.
2079
01:46:23,768 --> 01:46:28,599
[MUSIC PLAYING]
2080
01:46:33,778 --> 01:46:35,998
STEPHEN: Temperate Europe
is a real anomaly in the world,
2081
01:46:36,825 --> 01:46:39,741
because it doesn't have
a pattern of wetting to dry,
2082
01:46:40,568 --> 01:46:43,614
and those parts of the world
that have those conditions
2083
01:46:43,658 --> 01:46:45,877
don't have natural basis
for fire,
2084
01:46:45,921 --> 01:46:47,575
and they're pretty small parts
of the world.
2085
01:46:48,010 --> 01:46:50,316
So Europeans didn't like fire,
2086
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,102
they didn't see
any natural purpose to it
2087
01:46:53,145 --> 01:46:54,712
and they just saw it
as bad behavior,
2088
01:46:54,756 --> 01:46:58,063
as a kind of lawlessness
that needed to be controlled.
2089
01:46:59,935 --> 01:47:02,851
LUCY: And of course, the impact
of European arrogance
2090
01:47:02,894 --> 01:47:04,940
has not been constrained
to the USA.
2091
01:47:06,681 --> 01:47:08,596
FIREFIGHTER 1: Cultural burning
is not just about
2092
01:47:08,639 --> 01:47:11,337
aboriginal people,
putting, dropping matches
2093
01:47:11,381 --> 01:47:12,991
in the country
and burn a country.
2094
01:47:13,905 --> 01:47:15,254
FIREFIGHTER 2:
It's very technical
2095
01:47:15,298 --> 01:47:17,822
and there's a lot of science
and layers, and layers,
2096
01:47:17,866 --> 01:47:19,476
and layers of knowledge.
2097
01:47:19,781 --> 01:47:22,044
FIREFIGHTER 1: It's bad enough
that our people have lost
2098
01:47:22,087 --> 01:47:25,700
their own identity through being
dispossessed from their land,
2099
01:47:25,961 --> 01:47:30,661
but because of mismanagement
of country, even now countries
2100
01:47:30,705 --> 01:47:34,535
losing it's own identity
through these invasive grasses
2101
01:47:35,187 --> 01:47:38,930
and shrubs taking over areas
where they're not meant to be.
2102
01:47:40,715 --> 01:47:42,717
ZEKE: And we kind of need
to flip the script
2103
01:47:43,282 --> 01:47:46,068
and start telling
a different story about fire
2104
01:47:46,111 --> 01:47:48,200
in the landscape that
doesn't cast it as a villain,
2105
01:47:48,244 --> 01:47:50,072
that casts it actually
as the tool.
2106
01:47:53,554 --> 01:47:55,773
STEPHEN: For almost all
of our existences as species
2107
01:47:56,252 --> 01:47:58,036
we managed to live
with fire well.
2108
01:47:59,473 --> 01:48:00,909
We've lost that.
2109
01:48:02,127 --> 01:48:04,260
We have a sense that
we have to dominate it,
2110
01:48:04,303 --> 01:48:07,655
control it,
some kind of Promethean image.
2111
01:48:10,005 --> 01:48:13,574
But fire has been on this planet
for 420 million years.
2112
01:48:13,965 --> 01:48:16,011
As long as plants
have been on land,
2113
01:48:16,054 --> 01:48:18,840
they have burned.
We are not going to stop that,
2114
01:48:18,883 --> 01:48:20,363
we can't afford to stop it.
2115
01:48:23,148 --> 01:48:26,021
So what fire does
is it takes in oxygen
2116
01:48:26,500 --> 01:48:29,067
and then gives off water vapor
and carbon dioxide.
2117
01:48:30,416 --> 01:48:33,028
When it occurs within us,
we call it "respiration".
2118
01:48:33,071 --> 01:48:34,116
Occurs in cells.
2119
01:48:34,377 --> 01:48:36,422
When it occurs
in the open landscape,
2120
01:48:36,684 --> 01:48:39,904
we call it "fire".
But it's the same chemistry.
2121
01:48:41,819 --> 01:48:43,821
We are the fire creature...
2122
01:48:45,562 --> 01:48:49,218
and we use that to make
the world more habitable.
2123
01:48:50,132 --> 01:48:53,439
This is what we do, you know
other animals knock over trees
2124
01:48:53,483 --> 01:48:55,398
and dig holes in the ground.
We do fire.
2125
01:48:57,269 --> 01:48:59,576
And the hearth fire,
is the very essence
2126
01:48:59,620 --> 01:49:01,926
of domesticity and family.
2127
01:49:03,624 --> 01:49:05,234
I mean if we lit a fire here,
2128
01:49:05,277 --> 01:49:06,931
we would all be standing
around it.
2129
01:49:07,323 --> 01:49:08,803
[SCREAMS]I am in the middle.
2130
01:49:08,846 --> 01:49:10,239
No, I am.I am!
2131
01:49:11,109 --> 01:49:12,676
No, I am.I am!
2132
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:14,504
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
2133
01:49:14,548 --> 01:49:17,115
Oh, make out your own
with a hose.
2134
01:49:17,159 --> 01:49:19,204
Fire is a good thing,
to stay warm?
2135
01:49:19,248 --> 01:49:20,466
Yeah.BRAD: Yeah.
2136
01:49:24,427 --> 01:49:26,560
Getting ready to plant
the vegetables.
2137
01:49:28,562 --> 01:49:31,129
Over here we just started
cleaning the garden out
2138
01:49:31,739 --> 01:49:34,742
and then now the orange trees
all getting in bloom
2139
01:49:34,785 --> 01:49:38,397
and the lemon trees
and it'll smell so good.
2140
01:49:38,746 --> 01:49:41,139
On the anniversary
of my wife's passing,
2141
01:49:41,749 --> 01:49:44,578
Roni came up to talk to me
and we sat and talked
2142
01:49:44,621 --> 01:49:46,014
and we've been together since.
2143
01:49:47,363 --> 01:49:50,148
And it's been great,
and peaceful, and wonderful.
2144
01:49:50,627 --> 01:49:52,324
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
2145
01:49:52,368 --> 01:49:54,979
Almost ready.Oh, praise you, baby.
2146
01:49:55,023 --> 01:49:56,546
It's only at 98 degrees,
2147
01:49:56,590 --> 01:49:58,896
we got about another 30 degrees
to go.
2148
01:49:58,940 --> 01:49:59,897
Oh.
2149
01:50:01,812 --> 01:50:02,987
He's a wonderful man.
2150
01:50:03,031 --> 01:50:04,859
They broke the mold
when they made him,
2151
01:50:04,902 --> 01:50:06,556
'cause they don't make 'em
like that anymore.
2152
01:50:08,602 --> 01:50:10,429
Roni lived right over there.
2153
01:50:11,387 --> 01:50:13,824
See that burnt down piece of tin
over there,
2154
01:50:14,085 --> 01:50:15,434
that was Roni's house.
2155
01:50:17,828 --> 01:50:20,701
So we lived that far apart
and I didn't know she liked me.
2156
01:50:21,919 --> 01:50:24,095
It took the fire I guess
to openin' my eyes
2157
01:50:24,139 --> 01:50:27,011
to all this is just replaceable.
2158
01:50:27,533 --> 01:50:29,448
Love is all you got.
Family is all you got.
2159
01:50:29,797 --> 01:50:31,407
So that's what's important.
2160
01:50:33,975 --> 01:50:35,237
We can always start over.
2161
01:50:35,498 --> 01:50:36,760
Always.Yeah.
2162
01:50:37,892 --> 01:50:40,590
Don't need to all the time.[CHUCKLES]
2163
01:50:44,725 --> 01:50:45,943
LUCY: This is very special.
2164
01:50:45,987 --> 01:50:47,292
Yeah.Yes.
2165
01:50:47,336 --> 01:50:51,688
Really good, really good.
Life is really good.
2166
01:50:51,732 --> 01:50:52,950
[LAUGHS]
2167
01:51:01,785 --> 01:51:04,788
THOR: There's change
and how we handle it.
2168
01:51:05,615 --> 01:51:10,185
How we internalize
and feel about the change.
2169
01:51:10,707 --> 01:51:13,710
It informs who we are,
who our personality,
2170
01:51:13,754 --> 01:51:16,800
who our character is.
What do you see behind is?
2171
01:51:18,541 --> 01:51:19,803
Hello?
2172
01:51:20,630 --> 01:51:21,718
Now gone.
2173
01:51:23,807 --> 01:51:26,505
Wow, what a gift.
2174
01:51:28,159 --> 01:51:30,814
PICO: Maybe it's good to remind
ourselves of how we many things
2175
01:51:30,858 --> 01:51:32,076
we can't control.
2176
01:51:32,773 --> 01:51:34,122
I was spending most of my time
2177
01:51:34,165 --> 01:51:36,124
reading these
burning house poems,
2178
01:51:36,167 --> 01:51:37,734
that are very, very common
in Japan,
2179
01:51:37,778 --> 01:51:40,345
because fire and impermanence
sit at the heart
2180
01:51:40,389 --> 01:51:41,651
of that culture.
2181
01:51:41,956 --> 01:51:45,046
There's a poem,
"My husband down,
2182
01:51:45,611 --> 01:51:48,745
now I can see more clearly
the rising moon."
2183
01:51:49,615 --> 01:51:52,053
That clarifies your perspective,
and it makes you remember
2184
01:51:52,357 --> 01:51:54,446
what you care about,
and it takes the clutter
2185
01:51:54,490 --> 01:51:56,100
out of your head
and out of your life.
2186
01:52:01,845 --> 01:52:04,761
DON: The wind patterns
and the migrations of the birds,
2187
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:07,372
the order of flowering
of certain plants,
2188
01:52:07,982 --> 01:52:10,071
those kind of things
are all the landscape
2189
01:52:10,114 --> 01:52:13,422
communicating with you,
but in modern society
2190
01:52:13,465 --> 01:52:16,817
people tend to just uproot
and move places
2191
01:52:17,382 --> 01:52:19,907
And they rely
on their technology.
2192
01:52:24,825 --> 01:52:29,786
TRINA: Once people realize
that the place that they're in
2193
01:52:29,830 --> 01:52:32,310
has its own voice
if they take the time to start
2194
01:52:32,354 --> 01:52:35,313
to learn that language
of that place,
2195
01:52:35,357 --> 01:52:38,099
then that place will respond
to them in a different way.
2196
01:52:38,142 --> 01:52:40,797
And they will understand
that place in a different way.
2197
01:52:41,058 --> 01:52:44,496
And that's when it becomes
really, really beautiful.
2198
01:52:48,544 --> 01:52:51,155
DANNY: It doesn't take
a college genius to figure out
2199
01:52:51,199 --> 01:52:53,070
how to treat
Mother Nature right.
2200
01:52:53,505 --> 01:52:55,290
Mother Nature was pissed.
2201
01:52:56,508 --> 01:52:58,467
Little more respect.Yup.
2202
01:52:58,510 --> 01:53:00,034
Treat the land with respect.
2203
01:53:00,077 --> 01:53:02,863
Get rid of all that plastic crap
you been playing with.
2204
01:53:02,906 --> 01:53:05,213
The shopping bag almost
destroyed this place.
2205
01:53:05,256 --> 01:53:06,649
I mean they're everywhere.
2206
01:53:06,692 --> 01:53:08,738
BRAD: Shopping bags.Diapers
2207
01:53:08,782 --> 01:53:09,870
BRAD: Bottled water.
2208
01:53:11,828 --> 01:53:13,134
LUCY: You and three others
thinking that
2209
01:53:15,223 --> 01:53:16,659
you guys have something--Well, something-- We--
Some of us are on the same page.
2210
01:53:17,442 --> 01:53:19,793
LUCY: None of us
wants hell on earth.
2211
01:53:20,054 --> 01:53:22,578
None of us wants our home
to burn down,
2212
01:53:22,883 --> 01:53:25,015
but what does it take to agree
with people
2213
01:53:25,059 --> 01:53:26,451
we're not supposed to?
2214
01:53:26,756 --> 01:53:28,671
We are environmentalists, okay.
2215
01:53:28,714 --> 01:53:29,803
We love our environment, okay.
2216
01:53:31,239 --> 01:53:32,718
HOWARD: The Native Americans
back in ancient times,
2217
01:53:32,762 --> 01:53:35,025
they'd leave in the winter
and when they left,
2218
01:53:35,069 --> 01:53:36,635
they'd set the place on fire.
2219
01:53:36,679 --> 01:53:38,942
PETE: And that's where
the old ranchers
learned it from.
2220
01:53:38,986 --> 01:53:40,074
Something's wrong.Yeah.
2221
01:53:41,553 --> 01:53:42,946
That's why the alternate ways--
Maybe we need to go back
2222
01:53:42,990 --> 01:53:46,384
a hundred years and say,
"They did it right, okay
2223
01:53:46,428 --> 01:53:47,995
and we've mismanaged it."
2224
01:53:53,696 --> 01:53:56,438
LUCY: There's been an update
from Sierra Pacific Industries.
2225
01:53:56,917 --> 01:53:58,875
Remember those
young tree plantations
2226
01:53:58,919 --> 01:54:01,486
we visited and I got upset
where the fire had burned
2227
01:54:01,530 --> 01:54:04,098
through so quickly
on its way to Paradise.
2228
01:54:04,533 --> 01:54:07,057
They've decided
not to replant them.
2229
01:54:07,841 --> 01:54:11,148
That all burned in 2008
and here you know,
2230
01:54:11,192 --> 01:54:13,194
ten years later it burned again.
2231
01:54:13,237 --> 01:54:16,284
So obviously there's some work
that could be done there
2232
01:54:16,327 --> 01:54:19,548
to help, you know,
keep that from happening again.
2233
01:54:21,028 --> 01:54:23,857
We learned a lot after I saw
what happened over there.
2234
01:54:24,858 --> 01:54:26,468
DON: We thought this would be
a good anchor point
2235
01:54:26,511 --> 01:54:28,818
for bringing the fire back
into this landscape
2236
01:54:29,123 --> 01:54:31,865
and so after they send it,
then we came in
2237
01:54:31,908 --> 01:54:36,478
and put the fire on the ground
to manage the fuels
2238
01:54:36,521 --> 01:54:38,610
and hopefully,
within the next few years,
2239
01:54:38,654 --> 01:54:40,569
we'll be able to come back
and we do another burn
2240
01:54:40,612 --> 01:54:42,571
to maintain the fuel densities
2241
01:54:42,614 --> 01:54:45,139
and the diversity of species
that we have out here.
2242
01:54:51,101 --> 01:54:54,235
STEPHEN: Fire even
has a kind of moral presence
2243
01:54:54,278 --> 01:54:56,890
indirectly, because it forces
people to choose.
2244
01:54:58,979 --> 01:55:02,721
As the old signs in theBible
of the Trying Fire.
2245
01:55:03,722 --> 01:55:06,943
The fire will try each of us
and determine
2246
01:55:06,987 --> 01:55:08,292
of what sort we are.
2247
01:55:08,684 --> 01:55:14,298
[MUSIC PLAYING]
2248
01:55:23,742 --> 01:55:29,531
[MUSIC PLAYING]
2249
01:55:35,232 --> 01:55:38,018
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
2250
01:55:42,457 --> 01:55:44,763
[ALL LAUGH]
2251
01:55:44,807 --> 01:55:46,852
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
2252
01:55:46,896 --> 01:55:50,726
My mother wanted me
to wear this, so.
2253
01:55:51,553 --> 01:55:54,991
I know, yeah, let's go.
The wedding party is here.
2254
01:56:00,301 --> 01:56:01,519
Oh shit.
2255
01:56:02,433 --> 01:56:08,178
[MUSIC PLAYING]
2256
01:56:14,706 --> 01:56:17,579
VICAR: Bradley, do you take
this woman to be your wife,
2257
01:56:17,622 --> 01:56:20,190
to love and to honor her,
to comfort her,
2258
01:56:20,234 --> 01:56:22,976
to learn and grow with her
for as long as you both
shall live?
2259
01:56:23,019 --> 01:56:24,281
Of course.
2260
01:56:25,500 --> 01:56:27,981
Do you take this man
to be your husband,
2261
01:56:28,459 --> 01:56:30,592
to love and to honor him?RONI: Absolutely.
2262
01:56:31,332 --> 01:56:34,030
[GUESTS CHEERING]
2263
01:56:34,509 --> 01:56:36,163
By the power vested in me,
2264
01:56:37,033 --> 01:56:38,904
you guys are now
husband and wife.
2265
01:56:43,822 --> 01:56:49,698
[MUSIC PLAYING]
2266
01:57:27,083 --> 01:57:30,043
["“WE HAVE IT ALL"” PLAYING]
2267
01:57:30,956 --> 01:57:35,439
♪ There was fire around us
So I should have known why ♪
2268
01:57:35,483 --> 01:57:40,140
♪ The touch of his hands
Were as cold as his eyes ♪
2269
01:57:40,183 --> 01:57:44,361
♪ So don't you tell me
We weren't hypnotized ♪
2270
01:57:44,405 --> 01:57:47,799
♪ Whoa oho
2271
01:57:49,062 --> 01:57:53,414
♪ The print was so small,
I didn't understand ♪
2272
01:57:53,457 --> 01:57:57,983
♪ He cut our thumbs and placed
A feather in our hands ♪
2273
01:57:58,027 --> 01:58:03,554
♪ Told us we would see all
Our dreams and plans unfold ♪
2274
01:58:04,033 --> 01:58:05,687
♪ Oho
2275
01:58:06,166 --> 01:58:10,909
♪ Our hearts we have sold
2276
01:58:10,953 --> 01:58:15,131
♪ For diamonds and gold
2277
01:58:15,175 --> 01:58:18,700
♪ But hey, baby, take a look
2278
01:58:18,961 --> 01:58:23,313
♪ We have it all
2279
01:58:24,836 --> 01:58:28,623
♪ All my life
I've been heading for hell ♪
2280
01:58:28,666 --> 01:58:33,149
♪ But never had I thought
I'd drag you down as well ♪
2281
01:58:33,193 --> 01:58:37,371
♪ I just couldn't resist
What he was trying to sell ♪
2282
01:58:37,414 --> 01:58:41,114
♪ Oho oho
2283
01:58:41,723 --> 01:58:46,162
♪ Our hearts we have sold
2284
01:58:46,423 --> 01:58:50,645
♪ For diamonds and gold
2285
01:58:50,688 --> 01:58:54,127
♪ But hey, baby, take a look
2286
01:58:54,344 --> 01:58:59,393
♪ We have it all
2287
01:59:00,394 --> 01:59:03,353
♪ Hear me
2288
01:59:03,745 --> 01:59:08,097
♪ Can you hear me
2289
01:59:08,141 --> 01:59:12,319
♪ I am calling out to you
2290
01:59:12,580 --> 01:59:17,498
♪ For the last time
2291
01:59:18,238 --> 01:59:21,197
♪ Hear me
2292
01:59:21,502 --> 01:59:25,723
♪ Please forgive me
2293
01:59:25,984 --> 01:59:30,337
♪ I am calling out to you
2294
01:59:30,380 --> 01:59:35,733
♪ For the last time
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